. >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISED THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES SOME ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR STUDY ITEMS WHERE WE WILL NOT TAKE FORMAL ACTION. OTHER ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE WE'LL TAKE TESTIMONY AND YOU CAN DO SO RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. WE WELCOME THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO DO THAT AND I WILL OPEN THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHEN THE TIME IS READY. SOME ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY OTHER ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTS IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO SERVE A THREE YEAR TERM WITH A TWO TERM LIMIT. WE HAVE SIX OF THOSE COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AS WE BEGIN THIS EVENING I'LL ASK EVERYONE IN THE CHAMBERS TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ITEM ON THIS EVENING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE APPLICANT REGARDING FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX BUNKHOUSE SEEKING A VARIANCE AND FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS MR. DYLAN PALMER IS HERE WITH THE STAFF REPORT . THANK YOU CHAIR COOKED IN AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS DYLAN PALMER WITH PLANNING AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS A BUNKHOUSE EXPANSION TO FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX LOCATED AT 8601 LAKEVIEW ROAD . SO THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE FIRE STATION AND THE PROPOSED BUNKHOUSE LOCATION. IT'S LOCATED IN WEST BLOOMINGTON AT THE CORNER OF WEST 86TH STREET AND LAKEVIEW ROAD. IT'S ZONED R-1 RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING ZONES ARE ONE AND TO THE NORTH IS CONSERVATION AND THIS IS GUIDED PUBLIC IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AGAIN, THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE LOCATION THE PROPOSED BUNKHOUSE THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FIRE STATION JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHY WE'RE HERE FOR THIS VARIANCE TONIGHT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS TRANSITIONING TO A FULL TIME DEPARTMENT SO FOR 24 HOUR OPERATIONS AND THEY NEED A SLEEPING AREA FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. THIS IS A TEMPORARY MEASURE. THIS FIRE STATION IS SCHEDULED TO BE REBUILT IN 2023 EXCUSE ME. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF AN EXISTING BUNKHOUSE. THIS IS LOCATED AT FIRE STATION NUMBER FIVE OFF OF BUSH LAKE ROAD. THE BUNKHOUSE HAS FOUR SLEEPING AREAS AND IT'S CONNECTED TO THE FIRE STATION BY A ENCLOSED WOODEN STRUCTURE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT BETWEEN THE TEMPORARY BUILDING AND THE PERMANENT BUILDING. IN THIS CASE NO VARIANCE WAS NEEDED BECAUSE ALL THE SETBACKS WERE MET. SO THE VARIANCE FOR THIS SITE FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX IS BEING APPLIED FOR BECAUSE THERE'S A 50 FOOT REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN OUR ONE ZONES AND IN THIS CASE THE PROPOSED SETBACK IS 15FT FOR THE BUNKHOUSE. THE VARIANCE IS BEING REQUESTED BECAUSE OF SITE CONSTRAINTS. THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO A LOT OF STEEP TERRAIN AND STEEP SLOPES. THERE'S ALSO THE SOUTHERN PARKING AREA WHICH HAS ENOUGH OF A WHERE A BUILDING CAN BE PLACED ON IT AND THE SPECIFIC LOCATION IS REQUESTED BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THE DRIVE THRU DOORS FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT. SO THERE ARE SIX REQUIRED FINDINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN ORDER TO HAVE A VARIANCE OR IN ORDER FOR STAFF TO SUPPORT A VARIANCE. IN THIS CASE WE FOUND THAT ALL SIX FINDINGS WERE MET SO THE VARIANCE IS BEING REQUESTED FOR A SETBACK REDUCTION. THAT'S THE FIRST FINDING. SECOND FINDING IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SUPPORT FIRE STATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN ORDER TO SERVE THOSE AREAS THE APPLICANT FOR THE VARIANCE HAS TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES. WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE OF SITE CONSTRAINTS. AGAIN THE TERRAIN AND THE ACCESS TO THE FIRE DOORS ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO PROPOSE THE PROPOSES THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IN A REASONABLE MANNER. THE FIRE STATION WILL CONTINUE OPERATION IN THE CURRENT MANNER IT IS AND AGAIN PROPOSED TO BE REBUILT IN 2033 WITH A FULL SLEEPING FACILITY AND REST FACILITY. THE PLIGHT OF THE LANDOWNER DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY. AGAIN WE'VE MADE THAT FINDING BECAUSE OF THE STEEP SLOPES AND THE ACCESS REQUIREMENTS AND THE VARIANCE IF GRANTED WILL NOT ALTER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE LOCALITY. AGAIN THE FIRE STATION IS CURRENTLY EXISTING CURRENTLY OPERATING AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE. THERE'S ALSO A LIMITED VIEW FROM ANY NEARBY PROPERTIES THE REALLY THE ONLY VIEW OF IT IS IF YOU'RE DRIVING EASTBOUND ON 86TH STREET YOU CAN SEE IT OFF TO THE RIGHT THERE. SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE AS WELL AS THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR THE TEMPORARY BUNKHOUSE. AND WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. CONNOR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE IN THIS CASE THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT AND I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE FROM THE CITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SEEING NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. PALMER. I WILL THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD WISH TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM. I WOULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAY WENT I LIVE AT 87 OR 7 BAYVIEW CIRCLE BEHIND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WHERE WE LIVE WAS THE BLOOM HOUSE WHICH THE FIRE STATION WAS BUILT ON FROM A DONATION WHEN BLUHM DONATED IT. I HAVE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THAT. WE WILL SEE IT WE'LL SEE IT FROM OUR DECK. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS TO ME AND THEN WE'LL ANSWER THEM AFTER ALL OF YOUR TIME. SO SO WHERE THAT LOCATION IS THERE'S YES, THERE'S ISSUES. I UNDERSTOOD THAT PART OF IT. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY COULDN'T THAT BUNKHOUSE BE PUT ON THE WEST SIDE ON THE GRASS PART THERE'S A KNOLL DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THAT BIG WHERE IF YOU HAD TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A FOUNDATION DOWN ANYWAY AND IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE DOOR WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IT. WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT FROM OUR DECK AND FROM OUR HOUSE. VISUALLY WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS FRONT TO GET PEOPLE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY BUT THE LOCATION OF IT DOES AFTER SEEING WHAT IT WAS ON THE SCREEN WE WILL SEE IT. SO THAT'S A CONCERN. OKAY. AND THEN FROM THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY TO ZERO. THANK YOU MR. WHITE THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY? MS. BROWN IS THERE ANYONE ON THE LINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY? OUR PARTICIPANTS ONLINE. OUR STAFF. GREAT. I LOOKED IN FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THEIR MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. MR. PALMER IF I COULD CALL YOU BACK UP PLEASE COULD YOU ADDRESS THE LOCATION OF THE BUNKHOUSE AND WERE THERE OTHER LOCATIONS CONSIDERED? ABSOLUTELY. CHAIR CRAFT AND COMMISSIONERS THIS LOCATION WAS IDENTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS THE WAY THAT THE TEMPORARY BUILDING HAS TO BE PLACED DOWN ON A HARD COVER SURFACE AND IF CHIEF SEAL COULD COME UP I KNOW HE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE OTHER TEMPORARY STRUCTURES THAT ARE LOCATED AT OTHER FIRE STATIONS AND WHAT THEIR CONSTRUCTION IS HERE COMMISSION THAT'S CORRECT. WE IT'S A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE AND IT IS DESIGNED TO BE PLACED ON ON TOP OF THE BLACKTOP ON TOP OF THE BITUMEN SURFACE. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF THERE AND WE'D HAVE TO DO SOME EXCAVATION AND ACTUALLY PUT IN A FOUNDATION WHICH CHANGES OUR COST PROFILE CONSIDERABLY. THANK YOU CHIEF. MR. JOHNSON YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND IF I CAN ALSO JUST ADD TO THAT THAT THE FIRE STATION IS AT APPROXIMATELY A 46 FOOT SETBACK CURRENTLY TO LAKE VIEW ROAD SO SITING THE STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE WOULD ALSO NOT PREVENT THE NEED FOR SOME TYPE OF SETBACK VARIANCE PER THE CITY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS . SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO WHEN WE CONSIDER VARIANCES THE THE APPLICANTS THE LANDOWNER HAS TO PROVE HARDSHIP AND THAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE UNAVAILABLE TO THEM. WE HEARD THAT COST IS A FACTOR. ARE WE ALLOWED TO YOU KNOW, IS THAT A LEGITIMATE FACTOR IN WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE WE CAN APPROVE A VARIANCE? CHAIR CORRECT. AND IT SAYS IN STATE STATUTE THAT ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS CANNOT BE THE SOLE FACTOR THAT YOU CONSIDER WITH A VARIANCE. SO IN THIS CASE THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THERE ACTUALLY IS SOME IN THAT LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE AS WELL. BUT NOT TO SAY THAT THE COST CONSIDERATIONS AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK NEEDED TO SITE SUCH A STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE DOESN'T FACTOR IN OR DOESN'T MAKE A PART OF THAT CASE OR THAT CONSIDERATION. BUT THAT AREA IS ALSO HAS SLOPES MIGHT NECESSITATE A RETAINING WALL ADDITIONAL GRADING WORK THAT WOULD YOU KNOW, PRESENT A CHALLENGE TO EXECUTING THE PROJECT ON THE TIMELINE THAT THEY NEED TO DO IT. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON THE COMMISSION WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU CHAIR AND JUST TO CLARIFY RE CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THE REASON THIS SITE IS DESIRABLE THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS BECAUSE THE CONCRETE PAD CURRENT EXCUSE ME THE CONCRETE PAD CURRENTLY EXISTS THAT THE STRUCTURE SO THERE'S NO CONCRETE WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. IT COULD SIMPLY BE BUILT DIRECTLY ON TOP OF THE EXISTING CONCRETE THAT CORRECT CHAIR COOKED IN. COMMISSIONER LINNEY YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS AN EXISTING ASPHALT PAVED AREA THERE. OH THANK YOU MR. PALMER. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE SPECIFICS ONE MORE TIME OF THE SETBACK? YES ABSOLUTELY. CHAIR IN LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE. SO THE THERE'S A 50 FOOT REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR ALL NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND R-1 ZONING WITH THE FIRE STATION BEING A NON RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IT'S SUBJECT TO THAT 50 FOOT SETBACK. THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THE SETBACK BE REDUCED TO 15FT IN ORDER TO PLACE THE BUNKHOUSE IN THIS LOCATION VISUALLY WE'RE IN DISCUSSION PHASE HERE. RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK RECOGNIZING THAT THE CONCRETE WORK IN AND OF ITSELF AND PARTICULARLY GOING INTO THE WINTER SEASON BE EXTREME COULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DEPENDING ON WHEN THE GROUND FREEZES. I THINK IT WOULD BE ALSO HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THEY HAD TO DO CONCRETE WORK HOW SIGNIFICANTLY FOR EXAMPLE IF IT WAS TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION, HOW SIGNIFICANTLY WOULD THAT DELAY THE PROJECT? ARE WE TALKING LIKE WEEKS MONTHS RECOGNIZING THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROCESS? I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. YES. CHAIR CORRECT. AND COMMISSIONER, WHEN A IT IN MY VIEW IT WOULD DELAY IT SIGNIFICANTLY MOST LIKELY UNTIL THE SPRING UNTIL YOU COULD LAY CONCRETE DOWN. I WILL ADD THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO TRANSITION TO A 24 HOUR DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE THIS BUNKHOUSE IN PLACE IN A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME. THANK YOU. MR. FULLER. COULD YOU GO BACK I BELIEVE YOU HAD A SLIDE ON THE FINDINGS . WHEN I CONSIDER APPLICATIONS PARTICULARLY IN VARIANCES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, WE GO BACK TO THE FINDINGS. THAT IS OUR TASK AS THIS COMMISSION IS TO MAKE THE FINDINGS. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE OR WHAT WE DON'T LIKE. WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE FINDINGS AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND FINDINGS IS THAT IF WE CAN MAKE ALL THE FINDINGS WE MUST APPROVE ALL THE IN APPLICATION AND IF WE CANNOT MAKE ANY OF THE FINDINGS WE MAY NOT APPROVE AN APPLICATION. AND SO WHEN I'M MAKING MY CONSIDERATION IN A FINAL DECISION I GO THROUGH THE FINDINGS AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL ONE BY ONE BUT WHEN I REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION I AGREED WITH STAFF ON THE FINDINGS THAT I THOUGHT THE THE VARIANCE WAS REASONABLE. I THINK IT'S A PLATE THAT IS PUT UPON THIS LANDOWNER BASED ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE WITH STEEP SLOPES AND OTHER THINGS AND OBVIOUSLY WE I THINK IT'S A PRUDENT CHOICE IN THIS CASE. IS IT IS IT PERFECT? NO. DO I WISH THERE WAS A FULLY CODE COMPLIANT LOCATION FOR THIS? MOST CERTAINLY IN THE CITY MORE THAN ANY APPLICANT TRIES TO FIND CODE COMPLIANT LOCATIONS AND APPLICATIONS THE CITY NEVER COMES TO US BEFORE VARIANCES UNLESS THEY MUST AND SO I AM ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE FINDINGS OF THIS APPLICATION AND THEREFORE I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. OTHER THOUGHTS COMMISSIONER YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR COLTON I AGREE YOU SAID IT BEST SO EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID I AGREE IF THERE ARE NO OTHER THOUGHTS I'D I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION OR IF IT'S STILL STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT JUST MOTION IT WAS I BELIEVE IT IS NOW WHEN YOU'RE READY IN CASE PL2025 00166 HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 50FT TO 15FT FOR A BUNKHOUSE ADDITION TO THE EXISTING FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX LOCATED AT 8601 LAKEVIEW ROAD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE FIRST MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO OFFICIALLY NAME WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? SORRY. YES. OKAY. IN CASE PL 202500166. HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVED TO APPROVE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR A BUNKHOUSE EXPANSION TWO FIRE STATION SIX LOCATED 8601 LAKEVIEW ROAD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE A SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR THIS BUNKHOUSE AT 8601 LAKEVIEW ROAD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, THERE IS AN APPEALS PROCESS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL THIS YOU MAY DO SO BY APPEALING BY 4:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 25TH TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND IF I COULD MR. WENTZ IF YOU COULD SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET FOR ME IF YOU DIDN'T DO THAT I DO APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DYLAN PALMER IS BACK UP BEFORE US WITH A STAFF REPORT WHEN YOU'RE READY MR. PALMER FOR AVIAN CANNABIS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR TEN NINE ON ONE NESBIT AVENUE . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR CAPTAIN AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN DYLAN PALMER WITH PLANNING HERE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO PERMIT CANNABIS MANUFACTURING AT 10901 NESBIT AVENUE SOUTH. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF WHERE THE APPLICANT IS THE SITE THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WEST BLOOMINGTON INDUSTRIAL AREA. IT'S NEAR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NESBIT AVENUE AND OLD B ROAD. THE SITE IS ZONED IP ALL THE ADJOINING SITES ARE ALSO ZONED IP OR INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE AREA IS GUIDED INDUSTRIAL AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS ABOUT 800FT AWAY APPROXIMATELY THIS SITE IS A MULTITENANT INDUSTRIAL OFFICE BUILDING. IT THE PROPOSED USER WILL SHARE THE BUILDING WITH A CREMATORIUM AND A ROOF COMPANY . SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLANS ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE IS THE FIRST FLOOR WHICH IS THE MAIN PRODUCTION AREA AND PACKAGING AREA FOR THE CANNABIS PRODUCTS AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR AREA ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE OFFICES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THERE ARE SOME MINOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED JUST UPGRADING SOME OF THE LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT AND AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN MAKING JUST ADDING A COUPLE OF LANDSCAPING PLANTS IN THE AREA. SO THE CODE DEFINES A CANNABIS MANUFACTURER AS AN ESTABLISHMENT ENGAGED IN THE PURCHASE ACCEPTANCE MANUFACTURE AND PACKAGING AND SALE OF CANNABIS HEMP ARE PRODUCTS DERIVED THEREFROM THAT HAS A VALID APPROVED LICENSE ISSUED BY THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IN THIS CASE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO IS PROCESS CANNABINOIDS INTO CONSUMER GRADE PRODUCTS. ALL OF THEIR SALES WILL BE MADE TO EITHER WHOLESALERS OR LICENSED DISPENSARIES AND WITH THIS APPLICATION THEY HAVE NO RETAIL SALES PROPOSED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND THEN JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON THE STATE'S LICENSING FOR CANNABIS, THEY ARE LICENSED OR THEY ARE A PER THEY HAVE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR A CANNABIS MANUFACTURE LICENSE FROM THE MINNESOTA OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT OR THE OCM AND THOSE PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED TO PRODUCE UNDER THEIR STATE LICENSE ARE EDIBLES CONCENTRATES WAX OILS AND TINCTURES AND AND THAT IS THE APPLICANT IS HAS JOINED US TONIGHT IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PRODUCTS AND SPECIFICS ON THAT WE DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WE HAVE SEVEN OF THEM FIRST BEING A BUILDING PERMIT WILL NEED TO BE OBTAINED FOR ALL CHANGES TO THE BUILDING AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED USE PARKING LOT AND SECURITY LIGHTING PLANS MUST SATISFY SATISFY MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. AN APPROVED LANDSCAPING PLAN DOES EXIST FOR THE SITE AND MUST BE PROVIDED SHOWING REPLACEMENT OF A FEW MISSING PLANTINGS AND THAT MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING MANAGER. ALL STATE AND LOCAL LICENSING MUST BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO COMMENCING OPERATIONS PRIOR TO OCCUPANCY LIFE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL ARE LIMITED TO THE USE SHOWN ON THE APPROVED PLANS AND THEN ALL LOADING AND UNLOADING MUST OCCUR ON SITE AND OFF PUBLIC STREETS WHICH THEY DO HAVE A LOADING AREA FOR. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE FOR IT. THANK YOU MR. BONNER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER? MR.. AND JUST I HAVE ONE QUESTION FROM THE STAFF REPORT EXCUSE ME UNDER THE PROPOSAL SECTION IT NOTES THAT IT WILL BE SOLD TO WHOLESALERS IN KIND OF CANNABIS DISPENSARIES. THEN ONCE ALL PROCESSING IS COMPLETE ZERO CANNABINOIDS WILL REMAIN. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE STORED ON SITE. DOES IT MEAN THAT THERE WILL BE LIKE NO RESIDUAL RESIDUE THERE OR WOULD IT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? CHAIR COPELAND COMMISSIONER MUNSTER I THINK I'LL HAVE TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT ON THE SPECIFIC PRODUCTION MEASURES THAT THEY USE. COMMISSIONER MAY JUST A CLARIFICATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE THAT THE PERMIT IS FOR MANUFACTURING ONLY AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO RETAIL SALES WITHOUT COMING BACK FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT. IS THAT CORRECT? CHAIR COPELAND COMMISSIONER WHITE SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT UNDER THE IP ZONING USES RETAIL SALES ARE PERMITTED AS AN ACCESSORY USE IF THEY'RE UNDER 10% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE SITE. SO THERE IN MY VIEW THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE RETAIL CANNABIS RETAIL SALES ARE BY RIGHT IN MOST OF OUR ANYWHERE YOU KNOW COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK WITH THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR I BELIEVE NOW I DO BELIEVE AND AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT TO. THERE ARE ISSUES WITH LICENSING FROM THE STATE THAT MAY PROHIBIT THEM FROM SELLING DIRECTLY FROM THAT SITE. THANK YOU. YEAH, MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY. I JUST WAS LOOKING AT THE IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK INSIDE THE CONDITIONS SAYING THAT IT USES LIMITED TO AS SHOWN ON THE APPROVED PLAN SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS 100% CLEAR ON THAT. >> MR.. GROSSMAN ANY CLARIFICATION? YEAH SURE. KURKJIAN SPECIFIC TO COMMISSIONER WHITE'S QUESTION, WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH IS THE USES THAT SPECIFICALLY ARE DESIGNATED AS CONDITIONAL IF SOMETHING IS PERMITTED IN THE CODE THEY CAN SEEK APPROVAL TO DO SO JUST THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT. HOWEVER, I WILL NOTE THAT RETAIL SALES ALSO DOES REQUIRE REGISTRATION WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE SO THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BEFORE CONDUCTING ANY TYPE OF RETAIL ACTIVITY. BUT A STANDALONE RETAIL USE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ZONING DISTRICT. OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS GENERALLY DO NOT ALLOW RETAIL AS A STANDALONE PERMITTED USE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ? THANK YOU MR. PLANNER. THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IS ABN SOLUTIONS. DO THEY WISH TO STEP FORWARD TO STATE THEIR CASE ? GOOD EVENING. IF YOU COULD SIGN IN FOR US PLEASE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION I'M RYAN WITH PLANNING FORCE ARCHITECTS 811 GLENWOOD, MINNEAPOLIS AND I'M HERE WITH . HI MY NAME IS BYRON BUTCHER, THE CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR URBAN SOLUTIONS AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. WHETHER IT'S A FACILITY OR OPERATIONALLY. GREAT. BEFORE WE ASK ANY QUESTIONS ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO DO. I'M. NO, I THINK I THINK WE'RE GOOD. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, MR. MUNSTER? JUST A FOLLOW UP ON MY QUESTION FROM BEFORE THAT. WHAT'S WRITTEN AS A PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS ONCE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE ZERO CANNABINOIDS WILL REMAIN. WHAT EXACTLY IS MEANT BY THAT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE STORED ON SITE UNDER THE PROPOSAL AS THEY'RE PROCESSED? WELL WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? SO YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MOST OF THE PRODUCT WILL BE USED INTO OUR PRODUCTS OR RETURNING TO OUR PRODUCTS BUT ANY WASTE THAT WILL BE REMAINING WILL BE BIODEGRADABLE BUT NONE OF IT WILL BE FLUSHED DOWN THE CITY SEWER OR WASTE LINES AND WE WILL FOLLOW STRICT WASTE SOPS AND WORK WITH LICENSED DISPOSAL COMPANIES THAT THE IS DESIGNATED BY THE OEM. MR. BUTCHER JUST FOR FOLKS AT HOME WHO DIDN'T READ THE STAFF REPORT, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH JUST VERY GENERALLY WHAT YOUR OPERATIONS ARE, WHAT YOU PLAN TO BE DOING AT THIS FACILITY? YES. SO WE WILL ACQUIRE BIOMASS FROM A LICENSED CULTIVATION COMPANY HERE IN MINNESOTA AND WE WILL TAKE THAT MATERIAL AND EXTRACT THE CANNABIS OIL OUT OF IT. WE WILL REFINE THAT OIL AND TURN IT INTO A FEW DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE WOULD BE VAPES AND MAYBE TINCTURES AND WE MIGHT ADD TO OUR MENU YOU KNOW, MAYBE EDIBLES IN THE FUTURE. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER LEE? THANK YOU, CHAIR COOK AND JUST A BASIC QUESTION HOW DID THE WITH THE LICENSURE FROM THE STATE? WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION ON TIME FROM PRELIMINARY TO ACTUAL ISSUING OF THE LICENSE AND HOW GOOD IS HOW LONG IS A LICENSE GOOD FOR? IS IT INDEFINITE? >> SO WE WERE AWARDED A SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSE THROUGH THE LOTTERY PROGRAM AND WE HAVE 18 MONTHS FROM THE DATE THAT IT WAS AWARDED, TOOK IT UP AND OPERATIONAL AND IT WOULD FROM THERE IT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL ANNUAL LICENSE. SO WE'LL PAY ANNUALLY AND GET ANNUAL INSPECTION SPACE MUSEUM . GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. SUMMERS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAYBE I SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO BUT I DON'T KNOW. SO I'M GOING TO ASK IT. I'M WONDERING IF THE PROCESSING OF THESE RAW MATERIALS SMELLS THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT SMELL AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU BUT WE ARE WE DO HAVE AN ODOR MITIGATION PLAN AND I HOPE THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DESIGNED BY AN ENGINEER AND WILL BE UTILIZED THAT PRODUCT THAT PROGRAM WHICH INVOLVES BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, FILTRATION SYSTEMS. I'M UTILIZING CHARCOAL FILTERS TO ELIMINATE THE SMELLS THAT YOU DON'T SMELL IT FROM OUTSIDE. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM. SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD. I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE ONLINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY. WE HAVE ONE PERSON ON LINE. OKAY. I SEE A COLLIN USER HERE WITH THE AREA CODE 95284. WE ARE GOING TO UNMUTE YOU NOW AND I BELIEVE YOU CAN UNMUTE ON YOUR END PERHAPS AS WELL BUT WE WILL ASK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM. >> YES I WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY. GO AHEAD PLEASE. I LIVE ON NESBITT AVENUE ABOUT 105TH STREET AND I HAVE CONCERNS FIRST OFF THAT THE LOCATION REALLY ISN'T DESIGNED FOR THE KIND OF MANUFACTURING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S REALLY MORE OFFICE TYPE BUILDINGS AND THERE IS A OUT CLINIC THERE. IT'S THE MAIN ROAD TO GO TO THE DOG PARK. IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL AREA BUT IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL FOR MANUFACTURING. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS NOW HEARING THAT THERE MIGHT BE ODORS. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. ANY POSSIBILITY OF A SALE OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A DRUG IN THIS AREA IS GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC IS ALREADY VERY, VERY HEAVY THERE ON OLD CHUCK B IN NORMAN DALE. SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IDEA OF USING THIS FACILITY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. >> THANK YOU. AND CAN WE GET YOUR NAME PLEASE? YEAH. SHARON SCHARF. THANK YOU. MR. HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MS. BROWN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? ALL THE PARTICIPANTS ONLINE. OUR STAFF. THANK YOU. LAST CALL FOR THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS. ANYONE ANXIOUS TO TESTIFY? SEE NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED FOR A SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. MR. PALMER, IF I COULD CALL YOU BACK UP PLEASE COULD YOU DISCUSS AGAIN THE SURROUNDING LAND USES OF THIS LOCATION? CHAIR COOKED IN THIS IS THE OVERHEAD VIEW. SO TO THE NORTH THERE ARE OFFICE SUITES TO THE NORTHWEST AND TO THE WEST. THERE ARE ALSO OFFICE SUITES THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH I BELIEVE THAT'S A BUILDING CONTRACTOR OF SOME FORM. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME KIND OF HYBRID OFFICE INDUSTRIAL IN THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST THERE. THIS BUILDING ONE, TWO NINE AND ONE I BELIEVE IT'S 12905 AS WELL. IT'S ALSO SHARED THERE'S A ROOFING COMPANY AND ONE OF THOSE SUITES AND THEN THERE'S A CREMATORIUM THAT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SUITES. DO WE KNOW IF WE'VE HAD ANY ORDER CONCERNS WITH THE OTHER TENANTS IN THIS BUILDING? CHAIR COOKED IN NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PALMER OF AN UNRELATED QUESTION I'M NOT ONE TO FOLLOW NATIONAL POLITICS TOO CLOSELY BUT I DID READ SOME RECENT HEADLINES ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING BILL HAS AN IMPACT ON CANNABIS SALES OF SOME KIND. COULD YOU HELP CLUE ME INTO ONE? DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THIS APPLICATION? CHAIR COOKED IN SO AFTER MY QUICK LAST MINUTE CRAMMING OF ALL THINGS CANNABIS THIS AFTERNOON I DID SOME RESEARCH THE FEDERAL FARM BILL ISSUE REVOLVES AROUND HEMP AND IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANTS INFORMED ME THAT THEY WILL BE BUYING CANNABIS. SO I GUESS THEY'RE REGULATED IN TWO SEPARATE FORMS THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE AND I WANT TO SAY TWO SEPARATE PLANTS BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CHEMICAL COMPOSITIONS AND DIFFERENT BIOLOGY TO THEM GOOD ENOUGH. I DIDN'T WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT APPROVING SOMETHING THAT COULD GO AGAINST FEDERAL LAW. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MR. PALMER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DISCUSSION ? COMMISSIONER WHITE I THINK THE FINDINGS ARE RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HERE I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. I THINK THAT AS THIS NEW INDUSTRY MOVES FORWARD I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ATTENTION PAID TO THESE THESE FIRST FOLKS TO COME IN. SO I APPRECIATE THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL WITH ODOR AND STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THAT THE FINDINGS IN TERMS OF THE USE FITTING IN WITH THE THE FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE I TOO AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS AGAIN NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FINDINGS AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST APPLICATION THAT IS OUR THAT IS OUR ROLE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO MAKE FINDINGS AND I'M ABLE TO MAKE ALL THOSE FINDINGS AND FURTHERMORE WE'VE SEEN APPLICATIONS SOMEWHAT LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE THERE'S SOMETHING NEW THAT'S COMING UP AND THERE MAY BE SOME RESIANCE OR SOME HESITATION WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NEW AND I TAKE THE VIEWPOINT OF PRESUMING INNOCENCE UNTIL WE KNOW OTHERWISE. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO AN APPLICANT TO PRESUME SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THEIR THEIR BUSINESS PLAN AND AND THEY HAVE CONDITIONS OF A SEE THEY THERE THERE ARE THERE ARE CONDITIONS AND OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE TO MEET FOR FOR APPROVAL OF THEIR APPLICATION AND I EXPECT THEM TO DO SO. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER DE I WOULD EXCUSE ME I WOULD ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF BOTH CHAIR COOKED AND AND COMMISSIONER WHITE AND INTEND TO SUPPORT THIS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION COMMISSION IN CASE PL 202500167 HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I AM MOVED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A CANNABIS MANUFACTURE AT 10901 NESBITT AVENUE SOUTH SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS RECEIVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT 4:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 25TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AT PARK AND GO. I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM TO AVOID A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OUR ACTING CHAIR WILL BE COMMISSIONER WHITE OR PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT . SOUNDS LIKE A PARTY OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 3.1 ON THE ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR PARK AND GO. >> I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MIKE SOME SCENARIO PLANNING SUPERVISOR WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION AND WE HAVE AN INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND THIS IS FOR THE PARKING GO FACILITY SEVEN NINE AND ONE INTERNATIONAL DRIVE THE COMMISSION PROBABLY RECALLS PAST MEETINGS WHERE WE DISCUSSED A VARIETY OF AIRPORT RELATED PARKING USES REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WAS ONE OF THEM AND ARGUABLY THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL IN ITS IMPACT. BUT THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS FOR INTERVIEWS PERMIT FOR THE PARKING FACILITY THAT IS LOCATED BETWEEN AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND INTERSTATE 494. AND THEN THERE'S AND I MY I MISLABELED THE MAP MY APOLOGIES BUT IT'S JUST ALONG 34TH AVENUE AND IF YOU RECALL FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE AIRPORT PARKING STUDY ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED TO RETAIN EXISTING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM USE AND THAT THAT DIDN'T MATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. BUT THE CITY COUNCIL CORRECTLY FELT THAT THEY WANTED A LONG TERM PERMANENT SOLUTION THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY AGREEABLE TO ALL PARTIES AND WANTED SOME MORE TIME FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING OPERATORS TO TRY AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING. AND SO THE SOLUTION WAS TO ALLOW INTERVIEWS, PERMITS FOR REMOTE OR PER PARKING BUT ALSO ESTABLISHING AN EXPIRATION FOR THESE INTERVIEWS PERMITS AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE'VE EVALUATED INTERVIEWS PERMITS BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY AS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1991 AND HAS BEEN OPERATING UNDER TEMPORARY APPROVAL SINCE THEN AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY TRUE EXPIRATION OR FINALITY AND TO WHEN THESE INTERVIEWS PERMITS WILL EXPIRE. WELL, AS I INCLUDED IN THIS SLIDE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN CODE IT WAS ESTABLISHED VIA THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ORDINANCE THAT EXPIRATION IS AUGUST 8TH, 2027. SO 2020 OR SO MONTHS FROM NOW AND THAT DATE ALIGNS WITH THE INTERVIEWS PERMIT EXPIRATION FOR PARKING FLY THE OTHER REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL WANT TO ALIGN THESE TWO EXPIRATION DATES. SO WE'RE KIND OF PLAYING ON THE SAME TIMELINE AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS ALTERNATIVES FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING. SO FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTING THAT ORDINANCE AND ESTABLISHING THIS EXPIRATION THIS AUGUST 8TH 27TH EXPIRATION, THE APPLICANT FROM PARKING GO APPLIED FOR INTERVIEWS PERMIT TO EXTEND THEIR EXISTING OR THEIR FORMER EXISTING INTERVIEWS PERMIT TO THAT DATE. SO THIS REALLY IS A STEP IN FURTHERANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND SO THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WE FEEL THAT THE FINDINGS FOR THE INTERVIEWS PERMIT ARE MET ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE THERE IS A SPECIFIC EXPIRATION DATE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS INTERVIEWS PERMIT THE FINALITY OF REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING REMAINS TO BE SEEN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE DISCUSSING WITH THE OPERATORS AND WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU AT SOME POINT WITH ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER MEETING TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PARKING GO INTERVIEWS PERMIT AND ALLOWING IT TO BE EXTENDED TO AUGUST 8TH OF 2027. >> THANK YOU. MR. SENT IN OREO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ISSA THANK YOU ACTING CHAIR WHITE I. IS THERE GUIDELINES KIND OF ON FROM THE CITY'S ANGLE CITY STAFF ANGLE ON HOW ON KIND OF WHAT THE CITY WANTS AND ARE ANY DISCUSSIONS TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT FROM I GUESS FROM OUR INITIAL MEETING WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION KIND OF RECOMMENDED THAT AUP TO BE EXTENDED FURTHER? THE COMMISSIONERS YOU KNOW WE WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE OPTIONS YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS A VARIETY OF OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE FEEL LIKE WE STILL WANT TO SEE PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT ON THESE SITES EXACTLY WHAT FORM THAT TAKES AT WHAT LAND USE INTENSITY THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. AND SO THIS ACTION TONIGHT IS STRICTLY TO ALIGN THE DIFFERENT INTERVIEWS PERMITS ON THE SAME THE SAME EXPIRATION DATE. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO JUST TO CLARIFY THIS IS NOT ANY FINAL WE'RE NOT BEEN ASKED MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT AIRPORT PARKING ITSELF, ONLY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT BEING GRANTED THROUGH 20TH AUGUST EIGHTH OF 2027. >> SO THAT'S THAT CORRECT? YEAH. IT'S HARD NOT TO KIND OF EXPAND THE DISCUSSION INTO REMOTE YOUR FOR PARKING MORE BROADLY WE WILL THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE AND WE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK BUT WE'RE REALLY NARROWLY NARROWLY FOCUSED TONIGHT ON PARKING GO THEIR INTERVIEWS PERMIT IN ALIGNING THOSE EXPIRATION DATES BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING OPERATORS. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL CLEAR ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THIS EVENING SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CENTENARIO I BELIEVE NEXT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT IN THE ROOM. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WE'D WELCOME YOU TO COME UP TO THE TO THE MICROPHONE AND I THINK WE KNOW YOU. BUT IF YOU COULD SIGN IN THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST HERE TWO WEEKS AGO. I IT'S WEIRD HOW TIME TIME PASSES SO WE CAN THAT BUNKHOUSE MIGHT BE NICE. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. >> OH, HELLO. THIS IS DAN WILLIAMSON WITH PARKING GO. OF COURSE WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE EXTENSION OF THE AUP AND COMMISSIONER ISSA. WE WILL BE HAVING LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND THE COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT COUPLE 20 MONTHS. WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO RESOLVE THIS JUST AS MUCH AS ALL OF YOU DO AND IN A POSITIVE PRODUCTIVE WAY BECAUSE EVERY DAY WE WAIT AS AN AUP. AS I TOLD YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE BASICALLY HANDCUFFED IN TERMS OF FINANCING A PROJECT. SO THE SOONER WE CAN RESOLVE THIS TO SOME TYPE OF A PERMANENT ZONING, THE SOONER WE CAN GET ON WITH IT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE OTHER WAYS I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMSON ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. THANKSGIVING. THANK YOU. YOU TOO. ALL RIGHT THEN I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IN TO OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ISSUE OR COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? PLEASE GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE . MR. BROWN, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE ALL PARTICIPANTS ONLINE OUR STAFF THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN WHILE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE IN THE CHAMBERS. ALL RIGHT I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND AND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT SO I BELIEVE THEN IT IS TIME FOR A COMMISSION DISCUSSION. OH, THANK YOU. FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION MATH ON THE TEST. IT WASN'T ON THE TEST. I COUNT ON MYSELF TWICE. ALL RIGHT, SO ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS APPLICATION COMMISSIONER LINNEY I THINK THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS I HEARTILY SUPPORT THIS IF IT CONTINUES TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD WHICH IT SEEMS TO ANYONE ELSE. IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER LINNEY HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVED TO APPROVE AN INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AT 7901 INTERNATIONAL DRIVE WITH AN AUGUST 8TH 2027 EXPIRATION DATE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I ALL OPPOSE SAME SORRY. I THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I BELIEVE THAT MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE IF SOMEONE COULD LET COMMISSIONER COOK TO KNOW IT'S SAFE TO COME BACK IN THE ROOM I WILL GLADLY TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU COMMISSIONER. IT WAS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING I FORGOT. YES. THIS IS THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS ISSUE UNLESS IT THERE IS AN APPEAL FILED BY 4:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 25TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE'LL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS THE 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN. MR. DAKOTA CASSIDY IS HERE WITH THE STAFF REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. YEAH. TONIGHT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THE DRAFT WORK PLAN FOR 2026 SO UP TO DATE REALLY THE GOALS JUST HAVE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS OF YOU ALL IF THERE'S HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT HOW WE'VE PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS BACK IN DECEMBER AT SOME MEETING TO KIND OF DO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION OR ADOPTION TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE COUNCIL DOES MAKE THE KIND OF FINAL ADOPTION OF YOUR WORK PLAN AS A COMMISSION FOR THE CITY. SO JUST WANT TO COVER ON OUR DRAFT WORK PLAN WE HAVE LISTED OUT 23 PROJECTS THAT TOTAL ABOUT JUST UNDER 4000 STAFF HOURS THAT WE ESTIMATE AND WE ORGANIZE OUR PROJECTS KIND OF ACROSS FIVE CATEGORIES. SO CODE AMENDMENTS WHICH IS PROBABLY OUR MOST COMMON PROJECT TYPE THAT YOU SEE AND KIND OF MAKE A DECISION ON. WE HAVE PLANS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS REGARDING AND REZONINGS TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT PROJECTS AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL CITY INITIATIVES OF THESE 23 PROJECTS KIND OF IDENTIFIED THE PLANNING DIVISION STAFF AS KIND OF THE LEAD OF 17 OF THOSE AND THEN OF COURSE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH OUR CITY DIVISIONS ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AS WELL. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CARRYOVER PROJECTS FROM OUR 2025 WORK PLAN AND THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS FORTHCOMING HERE IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL KIND OF REFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE THE FINAL PLAN AND HAVE A FEW FEWER CARRYOVER PROJECTS THERE AND THEN WE IDENTIFY SOME EXTRA PROJECTS THAT WE COULD KIND OF PULL FROM TO EITHER ADD TO 2026 OR ARE KIND OF ANTICIPATED FOR FUTURE YEARS THERE IN THE WORK PLAN WE DO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT WHICH PROJECTS KIND OF ALIGN WITH THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE INITIATIVES OF THAT CITY STRATEGIC PLAN AND THEN WE DO ESTIMATE A LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT THE CITY USES THE UM THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION KIND OF SPECTRUM OF ENGAGEMENTS. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND SO WE KIND OF USE THAT TO ESTIMATE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME FOR A PROJECT BUT IT DOESN'T LOCK IN THAT SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENT LEVEL THAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN. AND THEN THE OTHER BIG THING THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW IN THE WORK PLAN IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THAT WE WILL BE STARTING OUR PROCESS FOR THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BUT SO THAT WILL BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME AND PRIORITY HERE FOR 2026 AND 2027. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE A COUPLE FEWER NEW PROJECTS ADDED MAYBE COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A LARGE STAFF COMMITMENT THERE FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE. THE SPECIFIC DESCRIPTIONS WERE PROVIDED IN THE PACKET BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS ON ON THESE PROJECTS. BUT WE WE IDENTIFIED KIND OF EIGHT PROJECTS AND THEN THE NINTH BEING THE REALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE REALLY SEE 2026 AS A KEY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT YEAR. SO LOTS OF COMMUNITY EVENTS AND IN DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT TECHNIQUES AS WELL AS YOU KNOW KIND OF LAUNCHING OUR INTERNAL STAFF TEAMS KIND OF GATHERING DATA STARTING TO DRAFT SOME OF THE PLANS TO GET READY FOR FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IN 2027 HOW WE GET TO THESE PROJECTS IS REALLY KIND OF A MIX SO WE WORK WITHIN THE PLANNING DIVISION. WE GET INPUT FROM STAFF ACROSS THE CITY IN OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ,THE PORT AUTHORITY, THE HRA AND THEN AS WELL AS FEEDBACK THAT WE HEAR FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT EVALUATION OF SOUTH LOOP ZONING DISTRICTS AND DESIGN STANDARDS PROJECT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE FROM THE I THINK FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD WITH THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN UPDATE WANTING TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT MORE KIND OF AROUND OUR HEIGHT LIMITS AND THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS AND SO WE INCLUDED THAT THAT HERE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FLAVOR OF OF HOW WE COME UP WITH THIS LIST AND THEN AS I MENTIONED WE TRY TO NOT EVERYTHING KIND OF MIX THE FIRST INITIAL CUT BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH STAFF DISCUSSIONS OR WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL AND SO WE HAVE THEM THERE AS POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS IF IF WE WOULD HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THEM IN 2026. I ENVISION WITH THE COMPLAIN WE PROBABLY WON'T AND SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D LOOK AT IN 2027 AND BEYOND. BUT PART OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS LIST THAT YOU THINK ARE A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN SOME OF THE ONES THAT STAFF SELECTED, WE WANT THAT FEEDBACK TO TO REFINE THIS FURTHER. BUT THERE'S JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATED AROUND OR TOPICS TO EXPLORE AND SO REALLY WITH THAT I'D JUST TONIGHT WAS INTENDED TO BE A CONVERSATION AND SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THEY ARE JUST REALLY AROUND IF YOU THINK ANY PROJECTS ARE ON THIS PROPOSED WORK PLAN SHOULD BE REMOVED OR REPRIORITIZED WOULD LOVE THAT FEEDBACK OR IF YOU HAVE ANY NEW PROJECTS FROM THAT LIST DO YOU WANT TO SEE ADDED OR IDEAS OF YOUR OWN THAT YOU DON'T SEE REFLECTED AT ALL IN THIS WORK PLAN THAT YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT? YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND REFINE IT FOR YOU ALL. SO I THINK WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MR. CASSIDY AND AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS IS A STUDY ITEM BEFORE US THIS EVENING. WE'RE NOT MAKING A FINAL DECISION TODAY. YEAH. CHAIR CAPTAIN IN COMMISSIONER SO THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT'S JUST A STUDY ITEM? NO FINAL DECISIONS MADE TONIGHT. WANT TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK THEN STAFF WILL FURTHER REFINE THIS PLAN AND BRING IT TO YOU IN DECEMBER KIND OF FOR THAT FINAL ADOPTION TO THE COUNCIL. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO DISCUSSION MR. WHITE JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT. ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S ON THERE IF WE HAVE TIME LIST SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER THE TECHNICAL NAME THE INDOOR RECREATION STANDARDS I'M JUST WONDERING WITH THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER COMING ONLINE AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS WHETHER THAT ISSUE WOULD IMPACT DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT ALL? YEAH CHAIR CAPTAIN COMMISSIONER WHITE I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE THIS PROJECT IS REALLY KIND OF INTENDED WHAT WE SEE IN PROBABLY MORE LIKE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS WHERE WE'RE SEEING SOME YOU KNOW JUST OLDER INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT MAYBE DON'T MEET THE CURRENT STANDARD FOR INDUSTRIAL PROCESSING AND SO THAT THOSE BUILDING OWNERS ARE TRYING TO FIND MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO TO REUSE THAT BUILDING AND GETTING OTHER TENANTS AND I THINK WE'VE RAN INTO SOME CASES WHERE WITH THESE DEFINITIONS THEY KIND OF CAN KIND OF BLUR THE LINE A LITTLE BIT AROUND IF SOMETHING'S A SPORTS TRAINING FACILITY VERSUS A HEALTH CLUB VERSUS INDOOR RECREATION AND AND SO THEY'RE ALLOWED IN DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND THINGS. SO IT'S REALLY JUST TRYING TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THOSE STANDARDS AND DEFINITIONS TO HOPEFULLY REDUCE ANY INCONSISTENCIES IN THE CODE. BUT IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON KIND OF THE REUSE OF INDUSTRIAL OR OLDER COMMERCIAL AREAS. YEAH, YEAH. MR. MOSER I HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS HONESTLY JUST BECAUSE I'M A NERD ABOUT THESE THINGS UNDER THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN IT NOTES THAT THERE WILL BE A DETAILED INVENTORY OF TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. DOES THAT INCLUDE GEO LOCATING AND TRACKING THOSE AS CITY ASSETS? YEAH, SURE CAPTAIN. COMMISSIONER MUNSTER I KNOW PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON IS KIND OF BEING IS THE PLANNING LIAISON FOR THAT PROJECT THAT'S BEING LED BY OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO MAYBE HE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK ON THERE. JOHNSON YEAH THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS. I DON'T JUST PUSH PAPERS AROUND IN THE SEARCH, YOU KNOW. SO YES THEY ARE GEO LOCATING ALL OF THE BOULEVARD TREES AS PART OF THE PROCESS. IN FACT ALL OF THAT DATA HAS I BELIEVE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IN TERMS OF ITS COLLECTION, IN TERMS OF TRACKING THE HEALTH OF THE ASSETS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WILL DO AND WHAT THE ONGOING OPERATIONS WILL ENTAIL FOR THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY THE CITY'S FIRST ATTEMPT AT UNDERSTANDING ITS BOULEVARD ASSETS AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THE BROADER CANOPY OF THE FULL CITY SO THE NATURAL RESOURCE STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS IS REALLY TRYING TO MAKE MORE STRATEGIC DECISIONS AND BETTER INVESTMENTS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE PLANT TREES SPECIFICALLY TARGETING AREAS THAT ARE REALLY UNDERSERVED IN TERMS OF THEIR EXISTING CANOPY. SO COLLECTING THIS DATA IS REALLY THE FIRST STEP IN MAKING SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS. SO IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME COOL COMMUNICATIONS VIDEOS ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK ON THE CITY'S YOUTUBE PAGE IF YOU'RE MORE INTERESTED. YEAH. COMMISSIONER ISA KIND OF ON THAT TOPIC I RECENTLY SAW ON THE CITY PAGE AS WELL THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT THROUGH THE PART. I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY COOL AND YOU KNOW HELPING GIVE EXISTING BUSINESSES A FACELIFT SO IT'S IT'S IT'S COOL IT SURE WE I THINK OVERALL THIS SEEMS LIKE A A REASONABLE PLAN AND PARTICULARLY WITH STARTING WORK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I THINK IT'S IT'S GOOD TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO . I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M ABSOLUTELY THRILLED TO SEE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ON HERE AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. A FEW THINGS FOR ME. FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO STAFF FOR GETTING THIS OUT OF DISTRICT PLAN FURTHER REVIEW ON THE SCHEDULE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU'VE HEARD US ON THAT AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THAT IN 2026. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME ADVOCACY FOR. THE FIRST IS REGARDING CURB LOCKS WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO STREETS THINK OLD CHICOPEE ROAD IN PARTICULAR WHERE WE HAVE THIS TREMENDOUSLY QUESTIONABLE AND DANGEROUS SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE PEDESTRIANS WALKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OLD SHOCK IF YOU ROAD I KNOW THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND EVERY TIME I ASK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT IT FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION I AM REMINDED THAT THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND NOT THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY AND I KNOW THAT I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO DEDICATE SOME TIME TO ADVOCATING THAT HANOVER COUNTY ADDRESSES THAT SITUATION. IT SCARES ME TREMENDOUSLY THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT ROAD AND IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THERE ARE OTHER CASES WHERE THERE ARE BAD SITUATIONS AND NO ONE QUITE KNOWS WHAT TO DO AND IT'S THIS PERSON IT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION AND THEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS AND THEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO HELP AND I WANT US TO TAKE ACTION BEFORE SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS. AND I JUST THINK ALL I COULD BE ROAD AS A TICKING TIME BOMB FOR SOMETHING BAD TO HAPPEN WITH A PEDESTRIAN OR A CHILD OR OH MY GOSH I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW BAD IT COULD BE. SO I WOULD MAKE A CASE THAT EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT CITY STAFF TIME IS DEDICATED IN 2026 TOWARDS ADVOCATING WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY THAT THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CURB LOCKS ON OLD SHOCK AP ROAD. I KNOW IT'S HARD. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS SERIOUSLY HURT OR KILLED ON THAT ROAD. THE OTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR IS REGARDING THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES AND AN NBA ARENA. SO THE TIMBERWOLVES JUST SOLD TO NEW OWNERSHIP. THEY NEED A NEW ARENA. THE OWNERS SHIP HAS INDICATED THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW ARENA IN A NEW LOCATION SOMEWHERE. WE DON'T KNOW AND I THINK BLOOMINGTON IS AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE TO TAKE A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS ARENA. WE HAVE LAND NEAR THE MALL OF AMERICA THAT IS AVAILABLE NOW. WHETHER IT COULD SUPPORT AN ARENA I DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE READY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ON THE FRONT END BEFORE OWNERSHIP APPROACHES US AND WE SAY ARE WE GOING TO DO A STUDY? I THINK WE I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT EVEN IF IT'S FOR NOT WE DO A STUDY ON THE FRONT END BECAUSE THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN DYNAMICALLY AND FAST AND I THINK IN NBA ARENA AT THE MALL OF AMERICA SITE WOULD BE ENORMOUS FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. IT'S ALREADY CONNECTED TO TRANSIT. THERE'S ALREADY PARKING THERE. THERE'S BARS AND RESTAURANTS THERE. IT'S ON TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE AIRPORT. WE ARE A GREAT LOCATION FOR THE NEXT NBA ARENA AND SO I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT SOME STAFF TIME IS PUT TOWARDS THIS ON THE FRONT END SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A PROPOSAL TO OWNERSHIP OF THE TIMBERWOLVES THAT WE ARE THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE THAT ARENA COMMERCIAL COMMISSIONER I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. I WOULD NOT LIMITED JUST TO THE TIMBERWOLVES THOUGH BECAUSE THE WILDER'S ALSO LOOKING FOR SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION THAT ST PAUL DOESN'T SEEM ABLE TO GET TOGETHER SO I WOULD SAY AN ARENA GENERALLY IS MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO COUCH THAT ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, I DO. THANK YOU CHAIR COOKED IN AND I YOU KNOW THE FIRST ITEM IN PARTICULAR KNOW IF YOU CAN PROMOTE JULIE LONG FOR THIS NEXT PHASE HERE BUT TO THE TO THE POINT ABOUT OLD TRACK B ROAD AND CERTAINLY CURB LIKE AS THE CITY LOOKS TO MAKE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO RECREATE CURB WALK WE ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT IS NOT A SAFE CONDITION SPECIFIC TO ALL TRACK A P I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED TO ADD IT AS A SPECIFIC PROJECT TO THE WORK PLAN BECAUSE YOUR STAFF ARE ALREADY WORKING ON IT TODAY NEXT YEAR OR RATHER IN 2027. SEE I AM IN 2026 MO NOW IN 2027 THE CITY WILL BE LEADING A PROJECT RECONSTRUCTING OLD CHALK UP ROAD FROM CITY HALL RIGHT ABOUT AT THE BEND ALL THE WAY OVER TO ALDRIDGE. THAT WAS PART OF THE 98TH STREET AREA PLANNING EFFORT AND SO THAT WILL INCLUDE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FURTHER TO THE EAST BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR SOME TIME NOW WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY TO RAISE WALCZAK AP ROAD IN THEIR PRIORITY LIST NOT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT THE COUNTY'S CURRENT COST PARTICIPATION POLICY REQUIRES THE CITY TO PICK UP THE TAB ON THE BULK OF THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. ANYTHING THAT IS DIRECTLY RIGHT OUTSIDE THE ROADWAY IN THE CASE OF THAT PROJECT THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO $7 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE BUDGETED FOR THAT REASON OR WALCZAK UP ROAD IS ACTUALLY IN THE CITY'S FORMAL LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY FOR NEXT YEAR SO WE ARE SEEKING BONDING MONEY FOR THE PROJECT. IF WE WERE AWARDED THAT THEN THAT WOULD GREATLY ACCELERATE THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. JULIE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. SHE ALSO SAID SHE MIGHT HAVE A VISUAL TO SHARE ABOUT SOME KIND OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK OR RENDERING THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY COMPLETED IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO SO . CHAIR IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AS PLANNING MANAGER SHARED I DO HAVE RENDERINGS FOR TWO FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. >> I'M VERY INTERESTED. MS. LONG THANK YOU. OKAY . >> ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THIS. >> WE CAN EXCELLENT. SO LIKE PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON SHARED IT STARTS UP THIS CURVE IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE IT'S IT'S LONG SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IT. BUT CITY HALL IS OVER HERE TO THE WEST. THIS IS WHERE THE RAILROAD IS AND THEN THE CURVE OF OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD IT WOULD BUILD A NEW PEDESTRIAN FACILITY HERE AND WE WOULD DO A BETTER CROSSING HERE AT THE RAILROAD BECAUSE THAT IS VERY CONFUSING TO PEOPLE. WE ANTICIPATE IMPROVING THE BUS STOP HERE AND THEN TAKING THE TRAIL ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT. IT WAS PART OF THIS PROJECT WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WOULD TAKE IT OVER TO THE NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. IT WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT THE INTERCHANGE. IT WOULD HAVE A TRANSIT ONLY DEDICATED LANE FOR THE OFF RAMP FROM 35 W AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT HAS IMPROVED BIKE PED FACILITIES ON THIS NORTH SIDE AS WELL AS THIS SOUTH SIDE. THE BRIDGE WOULD REMAIN AS IS . THAT IS GOING TO BE A PINCH POINT UNTIL SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE BRIDGE IS THIS IS THE MID RANGE BUILD OUT PLAN AND UNTIL THE LONGER TERM PLAN WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SEPARATE FACILITIES AND WIDER FACILITIES ACROSS THE BRIDGE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT BRIDGE STRUCTURES AND THEY ARE DIFFERENTIATE WEIGHTED IN HEIGHT BY ABOUT 6 TO 8IN. SO MOVING LANES ON TOP OF THAT BRIDGE IS NOT AS EASY AS WE HAD HOPED. THEN THE PROJECT WOULD STOP HERE AT ALDRICH WITH THIS NEW FACILITY INTO THE CLOVER CENTER. NOW I'M GOING TO SWITCH LONG TERM MAPS. HOLD ON. SO HERE'S HERE'S THE BRIDGE AGAIN. HENNEPIN COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO CONSIDER A PROJECT THAT WOULD GO FROM ALDRICH OVER TO SECOND AVENUE. IT INCLUDES BETTER BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ALONG WITH SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AT LYNDALE IT WOULD INCLUDE EXTENDING SOME BIKE PED FACILITIES TO THE SOUTH TO ALMOST CONNECT TO THE EXISTING ON ROAD FACILITIES THERE TO STILL BE ABOUT A TWO BLOCK GAP. SO WE'LL LOOK TO FILL THAT IN IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. IT'S AN INTERESTING PROJECT. IT HAS SOME POTENTIALLY CONTROVERSIAL CHANGES YOU CAN SEE HERE AT PILLSBURY IT WOULD BE A WRITE IN RIGHT OUT INTERSECTION AND TO GET SOME OF THOSE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND IT WOULD HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING HERE AT PILLSBURY WHERE THE TRANSIT STOPS ARE THIS BLAISDELL INTERSECTION BECOMES A THREE QUARTER INTERSECTION AGAIN LETTING TRAFFIC MOVE BUT STILL HAVING SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND AND CONTINUING WITH THE BIKE PED FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LEFT IN ONLY HERE AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN IT WOULD END HERE AT SECOND AVENUE ONLY BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT SCHEDULED WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY ON NICOLLET AVENUE FROM WEST OLD CHOCOLATE ROAD ALL THE WAY UP TO AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THAT LAYOUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE B HEARD HENNEPIN WEBSITE THANK YOU MISS LONG IF SO IF I CAN ADD TO THAT YOU'RE CORRECT IN WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT YOU KNOW IN YOUR WORK PLAN AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DEDICATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY PLANNING DOES PROVIDE A GOOD PERSPECTIVE TO SUPPORT OUR COLLEAGUES OVER IN THE ENGINEERING DIVISION IN TERMS OF SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS I CAN AFFIRM THAT THIS WORK IS ALREADY ONGOING. AS I MENTIONED IT IS IN OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION WE ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING FUNDING. SO IN IN MY VIEW WE ARE DOING THE WORK IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN TAKEN TOO LONG. I SHARE IN SOME OF THOSE FEELINGS AND BUT I JUST FROM A STANDPOINT OF IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS A DEDICATED STANDALONE PROJECT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR WORK PLAN WILL PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS YOU DEEM IT NECESSARY TO BE. BUT I DO WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT I DO FEEL LIKE STAFF IS ON TOP OF THIS ONE. GO AHEAD MR. JOHNSON I'M SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. I DO WANT IT DONE AS QUICKLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE THE BONDING PROCESS AND IF WE GET AWARDED STATE FUNDING, ETC. TO FIX THE HIGHEST CONCERNS AREA WHICH ARE EAST AS WE GO TOWARDS ALL OF AMERICA WITH THAT CURVE WALK THERE AND RECOGNIZE IN $6 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY BUT NOT UNTIL SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS AND THEN EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE WONDERING WHY WE DIDN'T SPEND $6 MILLION TO SAVE A LIFE AND PUT ME DOWN FOR THE FIRST HUNDRED I'M IN AND YOU'RE CORRECT. AND IF I CAN JUST ADD A LITTLE COMMENTARY ON THE SECOND ISSUE THAT YOU RAISED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO WANT TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY IS THE ENTITY AT THE CITY THAT ACTIVELY DOES RECRUIT TO SOME OF THESE SIGNATURE CAPSTONE DEVELOPMENTS PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH LOOP BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE CITYWIDE NOW BUT I CAN REPORT THAT THEY ARE AN ACT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT BOTH TO THE NORTH END TO THE EAST TO THE MALL. AMERICA, WE HAVEN'T TALKED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT LATELY ABOUT THE USE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE AIRPORT ZONING ORDINANCE. THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON CERTAIN TYPES OF LAND USES IN THE VARIOUS AIRPORT SAFETY ZONES AS IT RELATES TO THOSE NORTH SOUTH RUNWAYS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I MUST BE INTERNATIONAL. SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION IN TERMS OF THE INTERPRETATION AND WORK AROUND THEIR ORDINANCE. THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS TO US IN TRYING TO IDENTIFY SITES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT USES. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM OBVIOUSLY WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE DEFINITION OF A SIGNATURE DEVELOPMENT OR CAPSTONE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT VERY MUCH IS ON THE PORT AUTHORITY'S RADAR. I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVOCATING FOR THAT . THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD AND IF KEVIN HAS ANYTHING TO ADD THERE IS JUST TO BE CAUTIOUS IN TERMS OF YOUR ROLE IN THAT YOU POTENTIALLY WOULD BE REVIEWING AN APPLICATION IN TERMS OF THE ZONING ENTITLEMENTS AND SO I WOULD JUST URGE YOU NOT TO KIND OF PRE FORECAST YOUR EVALUATION OF SUCH AN APPLICATION SHOULD IT COME BEFORE YOU SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE POINTS I WOULD MAKE ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT HATS OR DIFFERENT ROLES THAT THESE TWO ENTITIES PLAY FOR THE CITY. APPRECIATE THAT MR. JOHNSON. ANYTHING TO ADD? MR. TUSKY YEAH, THANKS. CHAIR COOKED IN THE COMMISSIONER'S? YEAH. JUST KIND OF ECHOING WHAT NICK SAID I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT AND A BIG CONCERN IS PROTECTING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS FROM BIAS OR ANY ANY CLAIMS OF IMPARTIALITY AND I THINK BY PUTTING IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A SPECIFIC PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ATTRACTION KIND OF THING IN A WORK PLAN, IT COULD KIND OF TAINT THAT PROCESS WHEN SOMEONE COULD POINT OUT HEY YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO RUBBER STAMP THIS BECAUSE IT WAS ON YOUR WORK PLAN. >> THERE MAY BE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T WANT THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING THAT COULD CLAIM THAT HEY, THE CITY WASN'T BEING IMPARTIAL ON THIS DUE TO ITS WRITTEN PREFERENCE FOR THIS TYPE OF USE OVER ANOTHER USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO JUST A WORD OF CAUTION IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT I WOULD KIND OF MAYBE MAKE IT MORE GENERIC AND NOT SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT CERTAIN USES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU. MR. STARSKY AND I CERTAINLY AM NOT INTERESTED IN TAINTING THE IMPARTIALITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'M ONLY INTERESTED IN THE CITY INVESTIGATING WHAT CAN BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST LAND USE IN THE LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. OTHER THOUGHTS? TOURISM. OH, YEAH, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU JULIE LONG FOR THAT. IT WAS REALLY DETAILED. MY QUESTION IS ARE ON THE 35TH OFF RAMP KIND OF WHERE THEY 98TH INTERSECTION AND DUPONT IS EVERY TIME I LIKE GET OFF THE EXIT THERE SPECIALLY ESPECIALLY DURING TRAFFIC HOURS IT'S PRETTY HECTIC SO COULD YOU ELABORATE ON HOW HOW AND IF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY THAT MADE SENSE IN CHAIR COMMISSIONER ISSA I CAN'T I CAN'T DELIVER DETAILS ON THAT RIGHT NOW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH BOTH MEN AND HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR THAT PROJECT AND AS PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WE WILL DEFINITELY BE BEFORE YOU ON THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME. SO YOU CAN PROBABLY ASK THE QUESTION THEN WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH SPECIFICS TO ANSWER THAT BUT THE GOAL IS TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND NOT CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL DELAY. >> SO OKAY, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. MR. CARSON, COULD YOU BRING UP YOUR THREE QUESTIONS FOR US AGAIN PLEASE? SURE . AND I'LL ASK THE QUESTION IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS ON THESE THREE QUESTIONS FOR SHAWNEE. THANK YOU, CHAIR NOT SO MUCH. OH MY GOSH. I'M REALLY SORRY ABOUT MY FROGGY THROW TONIGHT. NOT SO MUCH A REQUEST FOR SOMETHING TO BE ADDED BUT SEEN THAT ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE PROPOSED WORK PLAN IS THE REVIEW OF IN INSTITUTIONAL USAGE IN OUR ONE AREAS AT LEAST FOR MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK I WAS VERY INTERESTED WHEN WE FIRST JOINED THE COUNCIL TO HEAR THE COMMISSION TO HEAR ABOUT THE CHURCH ST MARK'S CHURCH, THE CONVERSION TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE WHICH OBVIOUSLY I THINK KIND OF MIGHT ALSO FACTOR INTO THIS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL I THINK TO HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION IF THERE ARE UPDATES OVER THE COURSE OF THE FEW MONTHS AND HOW THAT PROJECT IS PROCEEDING TO HELP HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS IT MOVING AT THE PACE EXPECTED TO HELP GUIDE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHEN THAT COMES UP ON THE WORK PLAN ALSO THANK YOU. SO LET'S GET OTHER THOUGHTS MR. CASSIDY WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US THIS EVENING? IS THERE A MOTION OR ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM US? CHAIR COOKED COMMISSION YEAH, NO MOTION AT ALL REALLY JUST KIND OF MEANT TO BE CONVERSATION ON THE FEEDBACK. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK SO FAR I'VE BEEN TAKING SOME NOTES AND YEAH I THINK I GOT SOME SOME THINGS I COULD MAYBE MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT BUT IF AGAIN IF THERE WAS JUST ANYTHING THAT STOOD OUT ON HERE THAT YOU HAD QUESTIONS ON OR YOU'RE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PERSONALLY INTERESTED IN THAT YOU JUST DIDN'T SEE REFLECTED HERE I WAS REALLY KIND OF THE PURPOSE TONIGHT JUST TO VOCALIZE THOSE SO WE'RE AWARE. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? ARE NOT TO KIND OF BRING IT UP AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT AND KIND OF MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S THE POINT I BROUGHT EARLIER IT WOULD BE DUPONT AND 98TH OFFRAMP. SO LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR LEAVING LIFETIME AND WHATNOT, IT'S IT GETS HECTIC SO JUST REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AREA. THANK YOU. GREAT. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? THANK YOU, MR. CASSIDY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE THE 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE. MR. NICK JOHNSON THANK YOU, CHAIR KIRKTON WE HOPE TO GET THIS TO YOU A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BUT UH, WE'RE HERE AND WE HAVE A DRAFT SCHEDULE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A HAND OUT A PHYSICAL HANDOUT OF THE SCHEDULE HERE BEFORE YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AND SHARE SOME OF THE INS AND OUTS OF HOW WE PULL THIS TOGETHER. SO THE FIRST THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE VERY MUCH IS DESIGNED AROUND TRACKING APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. THE REASON THAT AS SUCH IS THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO THE 60 AND 120 DAY AGENCY ACTION TIMELINE REQUIREMENTS AND STATE LAW AND SO THE DESIGN AROUND THE SCHEDULE IS VERY MUCH INTENDED TO GET APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL THOSE THAT NEED TO GO THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO NOT ONLY TO ABIDE BY THOSE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF JUST GETTING A FINAL DISPENSATION IN A BUSINESS BUSINESS. LEE ORDER OF TIME. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT MOST ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE PROPOSED FOR YOU ON THIS SCHEDULE TRACK TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITHIN 11 DAYS AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT IS THE TYPICAL SHORTEST TURNAROUND THAT WE CAN PROCESS. SO ON THE SCHEDULE BEFORE YOU THERE'S 28 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. THERE'S SEVEN PER QUARTER. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS WAVERED IN TERMS OF ITS SCHEDULE OVER THE YEARS FROM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 24 MEETINGS IN A YEAR EVEN ALL THE WAY UP TO 36 MEETINGS IN A YEAR. THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE EARLY 2000S AND LATE 1990S WHERE THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THE CITY THAT REQUIRED THAT MANY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS TO BE HELD. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THAT POINT USED TO BE I HAVE A SEPARATE TAC, A TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMISSION SO THERE IS THERE'S KIND OF SOME WONKINESS IN THERE BUT ITHE LAST FEW YEARS WE AS A BODY OR YOU AS A BODY RATHER HAVE GONE WITH THE 28 MEETING SCHEDULE THAT EFFECTIVELY IS TWO MEETINGS PER MONTH WITH ONE MONTH PER QUARTER HAVING THREE MEETINGS WITH IT. I WOULD NOTE THAT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A MEETING CANCELED IF NO DEVELOPMENT ITEMS ARE TRACKING AND WE CAN SHUFFLE OUR POLICY WORK AROUND IN ORDER TO GIVE PEOPLE A BREAK ONCE IN A WHILE. SO THIS IS THE MODEL THAT HAS WORKED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE LAST FEW YEARS. UM I MENTIONED THAT WE ALSO TRY AND AVOID PLANNING CONFERENCES AS WELL AS MAJOR RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT INFORMS THE 28 MEETING SCHEDULE THE SEVEN PER QUARTER I WOULD NOTE THAT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS TOO MANY MEETINGS TO HOLD WE DID IDENTIFY ON THE SCHEDULE IN THE DATES THAT ARE HAVE AN ASTERISK ON THEM WHAT DATE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND REMOVING IN TERMS OF IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO A 24 HOUR MEETING SCHEDULE EFFECTIVELY TWO PER MONTH BUT STAFF IS HERE TO SERVE YOU SO I'LL KIND OF LET THE CHAIR TAKE IT AWAY. I WOULD SAY IT IS IMPORTANT TO TRY AND GET A SCHEDULE ADOPTED THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY STARTING TO GET DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS INQUIRIES THAT ARE TARGETING THE FIRST FEW MEETINGS IN JANUARY. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON THOUGHTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? I WILL START AND I AM IN FAVOR OF 28 MEETINGS. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER IN MY TIME HERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'VE KIND OF GONE BOTH ABOVE AND BELOW THAT NUMBER. I THINK 28 IS WHERE WE SETTLE AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD NUMBER. FOR A WHILE THERE WE WERE GOING WITH 24 I THINK IN OUR MEETING STARTED TO GET VERY LONG AND SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE AT 1030, 11:00 AT NIGHT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE JUST NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS A COMMISSION AS YOU WISH YOU WERE. 28 MEETINGS I THINK STRIKES A GOOD BALANCE OF NOT HAVING TEN MINUTE MEETINGS WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE THING ON THE AGENDA WE'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH BUT ALSO NOT SO FEW THAT WE'RE GOING DEEP INTO THE EVENING. I'M OPEN TO OTHER THOUGHTS BUT I WOULD START BY SAYING I THINK 28 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR TOURISM. ALL RIGHT. OTHER THOUGHTS GRADUATE THANK YOU CHAIR. I AGREE IT IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE SCHEDULE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW BUT THREE WEEKS IN A ROW. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WORKS AND I HAVE I WILL JUST STATE I HAVE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED STAFF FORWARD THINKING AND BEING ABLE TO REMOVE MEETINGS FROM THE CALENDAR IF WE DON'T HAVE A ROBUST AGENDA AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, COMMISSIONER I WE USUALLY PROBABLY FIND OURSELVES DOWN TO ABOUT 24 ANYWAY BECAUSE SOME GET CANCELED. IT'S JUST MORE DEMAND BASED THAN US TRYING TO DECIDE ON THE FRONT END. MR. JOHNSON THE ONE SPECIFIC OF THE SCHEDULE THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT IS DECEMBER WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS WITHOUT A MEETING RECOGNIZING THEIR HOLIDAYS AND THERE AND PERHAPS DEVELOPMENT SLOWS DOWN A LITTLE BIT DURING THAT TIME. BUT IF YOU STRETCH THAT OUT 10 TO 2027 YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING A MONTH BETWEEN WHEN THIS BODY WOULD MEET. SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS CHAIR COOKED IN AGAIN? I DON'T WITHOUT KNOWING WHEN THE PLANT WHERE WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE MEETING IN JANUARY WE CERTAINLY COULD GUESS BUT IT'S HARD TO FORECAST AGAIN THAT 11 DAY TRACK AHEAD. SO THE 10TH AND THE THIRD ARE JUST THE DATES THAT CORRESPOND WITH CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN DECEMBER. BUT YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S ALL I'D SAY THERE. I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS SO SWAPPING THE 10TH WITH THE 17TH IS THAT AN OPTION FOR US ? IT COULD BE JUST RECOGNIZING THAT DECEMBER 10TH IS WHAT TRACKS TO THE DECEMBER 21ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO AGAIN WE TRY AND TARGET THAT 11 DAY TURNAROUND. SKIPPING AHEAD YOU KNOW THEN YOU WOULD BE YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT A MEETING ON CHRISTMAS EVE THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO GO FORWARD. BUT THE 17TH IS FINE. IT JUST MEANS THAT IT WOULD THE 17TH WOULD TRACK TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY IF IT WAS ANY APPLICATION THAT NECESSITATED THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND YOUR CONCERN LEVEL WITH THAT WOULD BE HIGH OR LOW LOW. OKAY. I THINK I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THE 17TH INSTEAD OF THE 10TH BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. MR. RIGHT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE LENGTH OF A GAP IN THE SCHEDULE. I THINK IF WE SAW THAT AS BEING A PROBLEM I THINK THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDRESSED WITH OUR JANUARY 2027 PROPOSED CALENDAR WHEN THE TIME COMES I GUESS I'M A LITTLE YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THE 24TH AND THE 31ST ARE OUT. I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A ROBUST TIME FOR A LOT OF PROPOSALS NECESSARILY ALTHOUGH I COULD BE WRONG. SO I MEAN IF THE WILL OF THE GROUP IS TO GO TO THE 17TH, THAT'S FINE BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S NECESSARY. >> I WON'T BE ON THE COMMISSION IN DECEMBER. SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ARE DON'T TAKE DON'T TAKE MY ADVICE ON THAT AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU AND I HAVE A MEETING THAT DAY I YOU'RE EITHER IF YOU MOVE IT TO THE 17TH THAT I WILL NOT WELL ACTUALLY I WILL I WILL COULD NOT MAKE DECEMBER I HAVE A WEDDING OUT OF THE COUNTRY THAT WEEKEND SO SO THAT'S TWO YEAH OKAY BE THERE YOU GO OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE SCHEDULE COMMISSIONER SILVER I AM A FAN OF 28 MEETINGS. I, I PERSONALLY DON'T LOVE LONG MEETINGS BUT I SIGNED UP TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT SO I'M GOING TO BE HERE BUT I AM AWARE THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS OR WANT TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND LISTEN TO CONVERSATIONS THAT POST 8 P.M. IS A REALLY HARD TIME FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE'RE OFTEN HERE TILL NINE WHICH IS JUST FINE BUT I THINK IF WE STRETCH BEYOND THAT ARE WE MAKING OUR BEST DECISIONS AND ARE WE LISTENING OUR BEST TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE COMING TO WORK WITH US? WELL SO I NEED A MOTION. WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US, MR. JOHNSON? I THANK YOU CHAIR COOK TEN COMMISSIONERS I WOULD NEED A MOTION. I DO HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION IN THE SLIDE DECK. >> COMMISSIONER WHITE I MOVED TO ADOPT THE 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE AS ATTACHED IN THE MEETING PACKET. IS THERE A SECOND AND COMMISSIONER WHITE THAT IS YOUR MOTION IS AS PRESENTED CORRECT? NO MODIFICATIONS TO IT. IT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE'LL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER SIX THE PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATE MR. JOHNSON THANK YOU CHAIR COOKED IN JUST TO PREVIEW THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS COMING BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER OF 2025. SO AT THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING I'M LOOKING AT A RECOMMENDATION ON THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR STUDY. YOU RECALL THE ENGINEER AMY MARONE AND A CONSULTANT ARE BEFORE YOU PRESENTING VARIOUS PRELIMINARY DESIGN OPTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SO THEY'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU TO GET A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL AS A STUDY ITEM ON THE CITY'S FENCE ORDINANCE PRESENTED BY DON PALMER. HE LEFT OKAY. I WAS GOING TO TRY AND FIND HIM SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S PREVIEW INTO YOUR DECEMBER 4TH MEETING. I WOULD NOTE THAT GIVEN THE THANKSGIVING DAY HOLIDAY THAT PACKET WILL LIKELY BE PUBLISHED NEXT WEDNESDAY. SO JUST ONE DAY EARLY THERE ARE TO COMMISSIONER WHITE'S POINT AROUND TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE ITEMS WE'VE DECIDED TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS THAT WE HAVE NO DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS TRACKING TO THAT DATE AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHUFFLE THE TWO ITEMS PLANNED FOR THAT DATE TO THE DECEMBER 18TH MEETING. SO COMING UP ON DECEMBER 18TH WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A DAY CARE FACILITY LOCATED AT 403 EAST 78TH STREET ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD. THERE A PUBLIC HEARING ON CITY CODE AMENDMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES STANDARDS AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. WE'VE HAD A STUDY ITEM THERE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CITY CODE AMENDMENT ON THE ART INCENTIVES CITY CODE OUR ORDINANCE RATHER WE HAD A STUDY ITEM ON THAT TOPIC AND THEN A CITY CODE AMENDMENT ON THE REVISED OFFICIAL HEIGHT LIMITS MAP WHICH YOU RECENTLY HAD A STUDY SESSION ON AT THE END OF OCTOBER AND THEN FINALLY THE ADOPTION OF THE 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED. SO THAT'S WHAT'S TRACKING THE DECEMBER 18TH. IN TERMS OF OTHER UPDATES, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS WHO RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY FOR A PLANNING RETREAT NEXT YEAR SO WE WILL BE PULLING THOSE RESPONSES TOGETHER AND FOLLOWING UP WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN TO SCHEDULE THAT RETREAT FOR YOU ALL. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE IF YOU WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST HELPFUL TOPICS AND THINGS YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING AS A GROUP OUTSIDE OF THIS FORMAL SETTING, LET ME KNOW LET SHANTI KNOW IN TERMS OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THERE'S A COMMISSION CONNECT EVENT I HOPE YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO THAT VIA YOUR CITY EMAIL BUT ON DECEMBER 1ST FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. IN THE HAGUE CONFERENCE ROOM OUR CITIES COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT STAFF ARE HOSTING AN EVENT COMMISSION CONNECT IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MEMBERS OF OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, GET TO KNOW OTHER BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SERVANTS AS COMMISSIONER SOMMER SAID. SO PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR IF IT'S OF INTEREST TO YOU AND THEN FINALLY NOT SOMETHING I FORGOT TO PUT ON THE SHEET BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE IS IN DETROIT IN THE NEXT YEAR SO I'LL BE SENDING YOU SOME SOME INFORMATION VIA EMAIL PREVIEWING THAT AND TRYING TO GAUGE YOUR INTEREST IN THAT WHEN THE ACTUAL SIGNUPS ARE RELEASED AND THE MOBILE SESSIONS ARE RELEASED. IF YOU DO PLAN TO ATTEND YOU WANT TO TRY AND SIGN UP ON THE EARLIER SIDE BECAUSE THE MOBILE WORKSHOPS AND OTHER THINGS DO TEND TO SELL OUT CHAIR COOKED AND CAN TELL YOU ABOUT HOW FAST THEY DO SELL OUT. SO JUST TRYING TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR AND A REMINDER THAT THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY BUDGETS FOR IN TERMS OF GETTING TRAINING AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ITS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. SO THOSE ARE MY UPDATES. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON I'LL ADVOCATE FOR THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE. IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME OFF OF WORK AND THINGS BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. I HAVE GONE TO MANY OF THEM. IT'S A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. WE LEARN A LOT. THEY'RE FULL OF GREAT INFORMATION THAT HAS REALLY INFLUENCED THE WAY I THINK ABOUT SOME THINGS HERE AT THE CITY AND SO I WOULD STRONGLY, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL MY FELLOW PLANNING OFFICERS TO CONSIDER ATTENDING THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE RIGHT. I WOULD EQUALLY ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMISSIONER CONNECT EVENTS. I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THOSE AND THEY'RE A REALLY GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH OTHER FOLKS SERVING IN POSITIONS LIKE OURS ACROSS THE CITY. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, GREAT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY PLANNING COMMISSION TO BRING UP ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA. COMMISSIONER WHITNEY I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON IN GENERAL, HOW FAR IN ADVANCE AND HOW DO YOU LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED IF WE'RE GOING TO MISS A MEETING? MR. JOHNSON THANK YOU. CHAIR COOKED IN AND PERSONALLY I APPRECIATE I'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THE DAY OF THAT'S AND THAT'S OKAY ASSUMING WE HAVE A QUORUM BUT NO IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF WEEKS OUT FROM A MEETING THAT DOES HELP SHANTE AND I KIND OF PREPARE FOR THE MEETING AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE HAVING A QUORUM BUT I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW ANYTHING WITH JUST A FEW DAYS NOTICE IS MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE AND CERTAINLY ,YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER CAN ACCOUNT FOR AN EMERGENCY SO THINGS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. I SEE KEVIN ON THE SCREEN THERE. MR. TUSKY ANYTHING THAT CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS IF I MIGHT JUST SAY IF YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO BE REMOTE TOO IF YOU COULD TELL NICK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN BOTH THE MINUTES AND THE AGENDA THAT GETS POSTED AND THEN DO ROLL CALL VOTE IN THAT NIGHT. SO IT'S BETTER TO KNOW AS MUCH TIME AHEAD AS WE CAN. >> THANKS. THANK YOU MR. TUSKY ANYTHING ELSE FOR DISCUSSION? SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES THIS NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. GOOD NIGHT