for for you I will call Tuesday o October February 6 2024 meeting to order before we head into our agenda I'm GNA ask Chief Jim Davis to join us at the podium and give us an update on our firefighters good afternoon uh mayor Parker members Council Mr cook uh Jim Davis of fire chief um it's uh with been a been a long morning and with a heavy heart I stand here to tell you that a little after 2:30 this morning there was a report of a house on fire in southeast Fort Worth um and the first arriving fire companies on the scene found uh Fire coming from this home the second arriving firet truck or anticipated arriving fire truck coming from fire station number three um on Ry just off of Miller Avenue I was involved in a single vehicle accident on the way to that run uh approxim imately 5 minutes after the initial dispatch of the emergency four firefighters were transported to two hospitals uh JPS and Harris downtown um they uh two of them have been discharged two of them remain hospitalized um the um the families are with them uh the fort with fire department's with them there have been uh injuries that range from strains and sprain to fractures um and there is one firefighter who is in the Intensive Care Unit JPS in critical condition uh our thoughts and pers with him I I have to tell you I am so pleasantly pleased to tell you the love and support that we've received today throughout the Fort Worth community and I cannot thank the community enough for that um there's a lot of people to thank so far today too outside of the just community there's uh the police um the accident still under investigation uh Chief noes and and his team obviously are leading that we will cooperate fully in that to figure out the events that happened and how this occurred uh the police were uh incredibly helpful getting uh this uh member's family uh to JPS they came from out of town and and they were uh met uh at the city limits to make sure that they didn't get lost getting in the hospital and I want to thank Chief noes for that that and his team uh the folks at MedStar uh the folks from careflight um the uh amazing work and amazing staff at JPS both in the emergency department in the Intensive Care Unit the trauma team there uh the folks over at Harris um so there's a lot of people to thank there's a lot of blessings uh to have today but I I I ask that you keep our our department and these four folks and their families and your thoughts and prayers and as I say to you one of them is um is is really in a fight right now so uh with that I will um answer any questions that you have uh and I am I'm prepared to give you the best of the information I have at the moment thank you Chief Council any questions for chief Davis mayor ptim yeah I I don't have any any questions but Chief when we heard this the entire city was on alarms because the firefighters are the ones we call when there's a problem uh have you heard about the house in terms of the house questions to you Chief yes ma'am I'm sorry he's switching mics yeah switching mics that is a better one have you heard about the conditions of the people in the house that initiated the call in the first place yes so it's it's my understanding council member that there are no other injuries that that were no no one else was transported and there no other injuries um so is my understanding that they are okay they're fine and what about family members who might need to stay overnight are we assisting instructing in any kind of way so two two Avenues are being dealt with uh the as the uh situation in the morning uh transpired we put together an incident management team we put a small team together and and met uh put them in the emergency Operation Center so we could make sure that uh City leadership and um police and fire and everybody was at the table figuring out what needed to be taken care of and that included getting family here and making sure that Arrangements were taken care of for them to be moved around the city and uh hotel accommodations if necessary uh they have children um you know they have animals that they had to bring because they're coming for several days from out of town so we've had to manage that so that's that is one thing and then and then if you know no good relationship I I can't stand in front of you without saying something positive about uh local 440 and their um support of not just their member but their their appreciation and their support for the hospital staff and you know things that they're trying to do to show their appreciation through uh meals and things like that for the staff that are actually uh working hard to take care of our folks so I I do think we have those two two things covered and we have them covered from uh two different angles through a very positive Labor Management relationship thank you yes ma'am Council any other questions Chief thank you very much we know that you have not slept yet and so our blessings and prayers to your entire department and special thanks to JPS and th Harris of course as well and that trauma team that responded absolutely last night thank you very much Chief and Council I have a feeling our media friends may follow Chief Davis out because we don't ask questions then there I'll go there's the queue we'll let them move on to their next destination before we continue with the agenda David if you want to try to move into our agenda I'll turn it over to you thank you all right we do have one employee recognition we call on markk McDaniel to recognize one of our department heads thank you David uh good afternoon mayor and Council so it's my pleasure to share with you uh some great news about one of our uh City Executives here at the uh City of Fort Worth so there's a a group called scoop News Group uh that they're leading public sector tech company with over 1 million subscribers and since 2023 they have listed um what they call their golden gov awards for City Executives of the Year there were over 200 leaders nominated uh Nationwide and uh that narrowed down to 100 and then it narrowed down just a just a very few uh and so they recognized leaders and and cities and counties from 16 States and our own Kevin gun has been uh bestowed with with this award and we want to just congratulate Kevin for this [Applause] recognition thank you I appreciate that Mark uh and I know we got a full agenda so I'll keep my remarks brief uh it is really an honor and humbling to be recognized in this way uh and it's primarily from our work on neighborhood Wi-Fi and Broadband access and affordability in our community it is really hard for an individual to accomplish much in uh public policy and public work uh there is a team a huge team of individuals behind me including uh my departmental staff my executive team City manager's office uh including Valerie Washington uh who helped me along the way and of course this body mayor uh and councel you have supported me in the use and leverage of technology in our operations and in the governing process since I've been here which is almost 10 years now so I thank you and I look forward to doing more great work with you all congratulations Kevin good job turning to informal reports we have only five today the first one is on the I just jinxed it I think with that hold on we have five the first one is the city's use of exter consultants and Auditors and Joan gun is available if there any questions um I just have a comment thank you for pulling this together I appreciate it especially um as a new beond city council it's helpful to understand where we spend our money and why we spend our money and especially when we are outside of our expertise so thank you thank you the next informal report is on the Fort Worth employee retirement fund the actuary the actual Actuarial impact of proposed assumptions and Linda web and Di gardano available if there are any questions there's also a presentation coming the third informal report is on the mayor's Community workshops in the 2023 Neighborhood Awards and Michelle gut is available if there are any questions I think for the sake of of the public we need to hear a presentation this is a real big deal every year Michelle thank you mayor and Council um we're really excited that we um after covid came around we um didn't have the event one year and then we split it because attendance was was smaller and uh we wanted to let people be distanced so we're really excited to get back to having our large event with the workshops and the awards all in the same day so far we have 7 people registered it's only been open for about a week and a half so we're going to hope that you share it with the neighborhood so that we can get more people to come and um we're excited about the awards we'll know who the finalists are tomorrow and I'll share that list with you are there any specific questions oh for the workshops this year what we did is we surveyed all of the neighborhood leaders and asked them what topics they were interested in so that's how we came up with the the list of workshops and we will be offering them in English and Spanish for every session mayor I'll just add for those of you who have not attended this people take these things real serious when they don't get first place they're mad but what we try to do is get them to come back with with a better presentation so it's a real fun event and neighborhood associations and HOAs are very important to the way the city operates and so if you have a district and you don't have people who are involved in neighborhood associations or HOAs I encourage you to try to get them together so that we can it's the best way to get your messages to the people and Michelle if you send those to Carlos and I and jpeg we're we're the ones who always ask for that we'll get it out right away and I think the others would like it as well so if you can do that I'll get it out and I would encourage you if you know of an organization or a group of people who are thinking about starting a neighborhood association or an HOA please have them come to this because it would be a really good opportunity for them to get a lot of information in one place about um the things that they can do if they get organized in their neighborhoods so thank you for helping to spread the word I will no council member nles is nominations a nomination still going or has that already closed they were closed and um we had them opened longer this year than we ever have before to allow more people to um to apply and we also did our in it to win it workshops where we met met with um people who were interested in submitting Awards and gave them tips on how to do their applications and um so we had a lot of people respond to that and we'll know the finalist tomorrow they're being judged by uh Community engagement staff from other cities so that it's totally impartial what is the normal time when the nominations are open so for the public to know in the past we've had them open for a month and this year we actually had them opened about two and a half months months um because I think people had gotten out of the practice oh the time of year um November December okay and we do that because our neighborhood of the Year actually goes to a national competition with neighborhoods USA and we have to have that application in by the end of this week thank you thank you Michelle our next informal report is on protesting a TABC license or per application and Melinda Ramos is available if there any questions uh no questions per se but Melinda if you can just kind of Step this through I think that I forget who originally asked for this IR I had dovetailed and asked also to include any other um information for example considerations of uh limitations you know on near childcare facilities yes if you could please so I'm sorry councilman Flores do you want me to just speak to the child care or did you want me to to go through the protest process for a council protest process and then just you know kind of cover you know any any staff insights into including you know Child Care Facilities as part of that provision so um what this IR explains is the protest process that members of the public can go through to protest a permit or license although they are limited to the four that are in the IR or what a council member as a government official the City attorney is also a government official um the category of what they can protest is much broader it's any original permit or license or renewal of a permit or license and kind of there's elements that TABC sets out that have to be met in order to U file have a valid protest one of the most important ones is that you have a jurisdictional item that TABC can address and so examples of jurisdictional items under TABC are those that kind of are within their within their purview and that they are able to address if somebody has violated uh a TBC permit prior to um there are other issues related to parking related to noise um whether there's a argument that the public believes that it depresses economic values those are not within t ABC's controls so those don't uh meet the requirements of a valid permit for TBC so they wouldn't pursue that kind of a an issue as a a permit issue they would transfer it over to their complaint division so there's a certain timeline that uh both the public and government officials have in order to meet to file a protest it's generally 60 days before uh that permit has been filed or once it gets posted up on tbc's website then you have 15 days days after that time that it's posted on their website um you you had a previous IR a couple of weeks ago that explained the process now when somebody comes in and gets certification from the city secretary's office as to the wet dry status the zoning and the distance from a church school or Hospital uh they have worked with development services to put a process in place through a Cella that would then send out a notice to all of the council members and the mayor of where the location is and what's being requested to give you an opportunity decide if that is a something that you all want to protest we encourage you to do is get in touch with the city attorney's office and we will help you through that process um with regards to child care the TBC does allow U municipalities to also include Child Care Facilities uh as a a measurement of distance too um the you had an IR related to that earlier uh last year and there are some considerations for the council to think about it is uh you would have to think of where you allow child care facilities and how you want to measure that distance to it would still be 300 feet but you would tend to probably see more variances than you do now uh because it includes any kind of alcohol sales so from a restaurant from a packer store convenience store anything I think you might find those that are going to be in closer proximity but if that's something you want us to bring back um more information on we can do that again and again again at the time you you think that there's an anticipated uh increase in the amount of uh cases I would anticipate based on where um just thinking about my own neighborhood where I know there are child care facilities and where there are grocery stores that sell alcohol where there are restaurants in proximity to that you would see kind of more request for variances on that basis and probably may be more prevalent where you have mixed use developments it it it could be if depending on where the child care facilities are okay thank you Melinda thank you Melinda no real question sorry mayor um the 300 is not linear what's the terminology that in the case law when we went through this I think it might be beho of the coun for schools the measurement distance is from property property line to property line across a straight line so it can cross different properties for a um Church it is from a church and Hospital church it's door Todo and um I can't remember hospital because we don't get that one too often but for a church it's door too and the door is where the public has access into the the uh Sanctuary or into the church itself so it can't be like a back door of a church it's where the public actually enters any other questions Council thanks Menda thank you thank you the final informal report is on a vision zero update in Chelsea say Louis and Kelly Porter are available if there are any questions I'd like to give staff the opportunity to kind of run that through because it's been uh a few years uh that have gone by before this Council first heard about it and we have several new members on Council now that maybe for the first time are hearing about Vision zero so if y'all can bring us up to date maybe you know compare what has changed with the original Vision zero and where we're at now okay thank you mayor and councel um so the IR really documents our journey to where we are today um back in 2019 city council memorialized its support for vision zero as a concept um and within that resolution that was adopted um Council supported the idea of elimin eliminating traffic fatalities and serious injuries as well as um supported us moving forward with developing a strategy and so that's the point where we are right now is developing a strategy um of course with the timing of the pandemic that complicated um development of a fullscale plan especially since Vision zero action plans typically have a very robust public Outreach um component to it and um but even with the pandemic occurring we haven't rested uh on our Laurels um we have focused on taking steps to address Traffic Safety within the city and we've been listening to to the public we receive over a th requests related to Traffic Safety every single year um as part of this Vision zero action plan part of what we're going to be doing is addressing these speeding concerns um from a policy perspective um we always get requests from Resident saying we want our speeds reduced but within our existing framework from state law as well as our policy we aren't able to do that um in the way that residents want us to at this point so right now we're going to be exploring what best practices are across different cities um in determining what the meth method the appropriate methodology is for us to reach um a real resolution for the city of for worth and again um also with truck traffic we get lots of requests related to truck traffic um safety around schools um pedestrian safety specifically um we've had some pedestrian fatalities in the city that uh We've invested infrastructure to address and prevent um fatalities from happening in the future in those areas so really in in culmination uh the table that you see in the back of the I IR really documents what we've been doing since 2019 to address Traffic Safety in the city and uh one thing that I will say about Vision zero um it is a very aspirational goal um but I don't want uh the public uh to um get as caught up in the name um vision is important but it really just talks about refocusing work that we already do in the city um so we didn't just start addressing Traffic Safety it's always been foremost uh a priority for us in transportation and public works and we'll continue to do so Vision zero just gives us additional tools to do that work and be more outcome oriented moving forward and I think Kelly can address the long range plan we did good I mean we do have um so in the so one thing that came along with this work to kind of formalize it is that uh transportation management developed the hry network and so that hry Network which includes um Vehicles pedestrians and bicycles there's three different networks and the overall one that was used to help justify getting the Federal grant for the vision zero Safety Action Plan and so that's been one Leap Forward that'll help us make this more of a formalized uh coales effort and that'll feed into our actual like how we actually think about capital projects and programming for these things that's going to feed into a bigger uh effort that you see in here which is that Master Transportation plan that we'll be working on we really want to make sure safety's first as part of that and so um we just look at Vision zero as Chelsea said is really uh Contin L of the work that we've already done but it gives it more of a brand and also gives it more of a formalized process to go through thank you Kelly Shar oh um not really a question but just a comment I believe in giving folks flowers um while they're here and so I just want to say thank you I've seen the fruits of y'all's labor in many ways from rising road to Summer Creek mcferson Columbus Trail Mard if I keep going a resident's GNA want me to say their road but I've truly seen y'all um you know um um just invest a great amount of time um and got a lot of great things done through this framework and I know that um there's much more to do um and so thank youall for y's commitment to your work um y'all are best in the business and I'm glad yall are serving our residents so thank you thank you thank you Flores um just to follow up with this you know what um what what triggered me to ask you know for the update was at the last NLC and in walking around the exhibit hall I had a chat with some General Motors engineers and they were having a vision zero uh you know booth and so that's why I stopped talked to them chatted with them and they talked about the technology that they're putting into their vehicles to try to minimize you know accidents right right not a not an entirely taking away the human factor because that's where a lot of the accidents come but trying to minimize that and so I know that you had said well this is an aspirational goal you know yes it's a namesake you know the the idea behind it all is just trying to reduce the likelihood of accidents occurring so uh are we doing we being the city any collaborations with General Motors or any other auto manufacturers in this regard are you getting at like the safety features on the I mean do we have any input you know you know how maybe we interface with them you know if if possible you know down the road so to speak I I wouldn't say formally that Chelsea has done anything or I've done anything specifically with the manufacturers per se but through some of like our Federal grant efforts some of our work through Cog it interfaces with um different um manufacturers of different types of vehicles whether it's air or on ground um a lot of that really folds more to just how we and I think to your point how we're going to deal with technology and especially you start talking about autonomous technology and how that's actually going to play into how how effective that's going to be at uh safeguarding folks on the roads and being able to read different users on the roads or whatnot that's something that as we're engaging this work we're going to get more in depth I think there'll be more opportunities to engage let's say subject matter experts on that particular um on those particular topics with uh our Fleet um because there's still quite a bit of unknowns specifically around autonomous vehicle technology and how that's going to actually impact um safety we know it's going to make the road safer but to your point how how foolproof will it be and I think our approach is going to not only be to look at the the behavioral change of the human driving the vehicle and then also the technology the vehicle itself and incorporating it into what we're doing but also thinking about the design of our Network and that's a lot of what we want to play into because it's not just the vehicle they're in it's also the signal that it's communicating with and other things okay and then a couple of other questions um I know in 2023 you initiated the development of the dashboard how's what's the ETA on that chelse see to give that one so we actually initiated that effort in partnership with the IT department so that's another not it um they finished the first phase of developing that dashboard for us um right now we're working on an agreement with uh TTI to help us on the data Integrity piece of it um so as we're moving forward with developing our new high injury network uh with new crash data um we'll be working with TTI to make sure that the quality of the data that we're feeding into that dashboard is accurate um and the public as well as our policy makers and stakeholders um have real information that they can use um to educate them on so maybe within projects not putting words in your mouth but next year next couple of years over the over the next year so um we will be kicking off the um action plan as well as the comprehensive Master Transportation plan within the next month uh we envision that the draft High Injury Network uh should be finished within maybe three months of starting that process um and so probably within the next six months I think we'd have an opportunity to actually go live with the dashboard once we've worked through the data piece okay uh then my final question I don't know if this even applies but could Vision zero at all help us expedite the process of inclusion of certain roads into the MTP Kelly I know you're reading me right now because we've had that discussion before I'm just looking for ways that maybe we can expedite it on you know roadways that continue to you know present their challenges especially when it comes to development I I I'm I can't use the term expedite council member but I can't say prioritize okay safety would be a very high priority for us and that that ties back not only to probably City priorities but also to our federal and state priorities safety is always the number one goals so absolutely okay thank you thank you mayor that concludes my report perfect thank you David okay Council anything regarding changes in membership to Boards of commissions significant zoning cases or the MNC log that's in your agenda no then we will move straight to our first presentation on Alliance Texas economic impact and Mike Barry president Phil Wood is here to present hi Mike mayor how are you great thank you Council thanks again for having me um Patricia was here earlier she had to leave but we were talking about this presentation which uh I've worked with her on for a long time we couldn't really remember how many years it's been but she's been with the city for 33 years I've been with Hillwood for 35 those early years of Alliance were a little slow so I probably wasn't here that long ago but but I think we've been doing this now for well over 20 years um and it's become my favorite day of the year because fortunately it's it's been good news uh certainly for the last decade or so so thanks again for allowing me the opportunity just for background for uh some of the council members who might not know the history the original public private partnership that was formed back in 1988 between the FAA the city of Fort Worth and Hillwood to build Alliance Airport involved public public investment from both local state and federal uh governments Fort Worth being the the lead local uh agency because uh through your zoning and annexation of Alliance and the several thousand acres that uh became sort of the anchor of the platform uh we really were able to do what we what we've what we've done and had it not been for the Fort Worth Vision um going all the way back to Mar Bolan in the willingness to Annex and Zone all of that land which by the way was the largest zoning Annex and annexation case in the history of the state of Texas at that time may have been may have been uh jumped over since then but it was a big one um and so those sort of visionary moves by the city uh have allowed things to happen like they have and so I'm I'm pleased to share them with you here today um I'm going to touch on the economic impact numbers what we do every year is we have an economic uh consultant who updates the impact numbers every year so this is a building program and it it it basically brings the 35 years from the beginning of the airport up to the present and gives you some cumulative uh numbers to look at I'm going to touch then quickly on some highlights from last year um and then mention uh just our continued uh commitment to to want to grow our Hillwood platform in Fort Worth so the the big number is um $120 billion of cumulative economic impact which once again was was is the is the roll up of of all those years uh last year alone the economic impact number was almost $10 billion of that 120 so if you look at the growth uh that's occurred over the last six years we're running our economic impact growth is running at about an average of 10% a year year which you know you don't want to hear inflation at 10% a year but you would like to hear that number at 10% a year and if you look at the vector uh of that graph it's it's only continuing to grow thankfully um and and I hope we can keep that up once you hit kind of a point it begins to grow organically um and and we're starting to see real real signs of that uh with respect to just Fort Worth specific we also measure property taxes that flow blow off of uh all of the properties that have been developed within the entire 27,000 Acres but within Fort Worth uh Municipal boundaries uh We've generated a total of 752 million uh dollars cumulative cumulatively of uh of avalor taxes and then you see your other local governmental agencies there the school districts obviously get a larger uh piece of that because their tax rates are are always always higher that's why those gross numbers are are higher in the in the school districts but here's a chart that I really have uh enjoyed looking at over the last few years you can see that Spike that's beginning to occur um and it's you know it's good news bad news because if you're paying property taxes you know it's driven by a lot of things but uh from the city standpoint you want to you want to see that number continue to continue to grow and and it is um there are a lot of other things growing as well uh we're now up to four 574 total companies inside the Alliance Texas platform 66,1 198 direct jobs and that doesn't include all the indirects that get generated off of of those direct jobs uh and almost 50 million square feet of space and Reed gets is from Hillwood is sitting over there he's responsible for growing that number and he's got uh couple million square that he'll add to that uh this year um a few highlights from from last year uh the biggest one for me was uh the ribbon cutting for 35W 3C which was the section as many of you know from the 287 split on 35 all the way up to essentially to 114 but really at Eagle Parkway uh we completed uh the construction of the express lanes and the Improvement of all the free Lanes and if you drive out there uh or if you have recently hopefully you can you can feel feel the difference um it's still you know we've still got a lot of work to do we're not we're not through by any means 170 we're almost ready to open 170 up and then Haslet Parkways being built back to the west from 35 back all the way to 156 through Haslet and there's some other major things still to be done but it's it's made a made a huge impact um South wire was one of our this wasn't the only deal we did last year but it was certainly one of the bigger ones and um it's a it's a unique deal because they kept growing during the process started a million square feet ended up at 1.2 million square feet and there state-of-the-art uh electric um components uh for um all things going on in the world of electrification and power so we're excited about them and McMaster Car out of uh Chicago 100y old privately owned company um and you all helped on that project um they are making a $360 million investment and they're just the greatest people I know that many of you on the council had a chance to meet some of their principles and you know to have a a true family privately held business that's been around that long to put their Regional headquarters here is it's just it's great um it's a big project um the airport itself perau field which we renamed perau field Fort Worth Alliance Airport last year um we had a unbelievable year we reached the number 19th ranking in um us cargo operations so we're the 19th um in volume of cargo and we're the only non-passenger airport in the country that's in the top 20 uh so that's that's really a positive trend um we also skipping over the far right we did uh and partly as a result of or directly related to that we had a record year in fuel sales we sold over 5.2 million gallons of of fuel last year uh and then and then in terms of of a major corporate announcement on the airport MTU uh one of the largest engine manufacturing companies in the world uh located a major uh presence there on Alliance in the the old American Maintenance base with this which the city actually owns uh by the way so we we manage that facility for the city of Fort Worth and um if you went out there and looked at it today I mean it was quiet for a while but if you go look at it today it is it is H the whole place is is hopping uh there's widebody Jets all over the place this engine facility is really creating more activity and and it's you know it's finally it took us a while to get it get it re retooled but it it looks good now um back to infrastructure we're also working on sort of Next Generation infrastructure for Alliance we call this The Alliance Texas smartport program and uh I mentioned 170 it's a big piece of it but then connecting uh the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Intermodal Hub and a lot of the freight that's moving through Alliance connecting it more efficiently to the interstate and state highway system and using technology to manage that Freight and then putting in infrastructure in the ground to allow us to grow the freight that does move through Alliance is all part of this of this program and it's it's I think this year you'll see some some new activity around the around the smartport idea a couple of key um uh meetings that we've initiated over the years and have now become sort of Staples of our whole effort to bring Fort Worth in the spotlight as a transportation and Mobility innovation Hub um the upsummit which we hosted um this fall brought leaders in really Aviation and Aviation Innovation from around the world uh to the Circle T Ranch at Alliance and you know the exposure that we were able to get from that uh from that group of people was was phenomenal and hopefully some we get some some business growth out of that and then next month we'll be hting for the third year um at the drover and the Stockyards the the uh supply chain and Mobility Innovation Summit which is a select group of targeted Founders entrepreneurs and CEOs who are involved in Mobility Innovation and there's a lot of surface emphasis in that conference but we've done that for three years now and it's continuing to bring more and more uh visibility to Fort Worth as a transportation and Mobility Innovation Hub and it plays into a lot of things that are going on throughout the City not just what we're doing in Alliance but our our goal is to really help put the whole region on the map as a as a major uh Mobility Innovation Center and then lastly uh just wanted to mention that we acquired uh in our effort to you know our goal is to we've been we've been developing in Fort wor for 35 years but we've been doing it in one area of town um we're we're involved in a number of things all over the city we watch what's going on we we're uh supportive of everything that's going on whether it be downtown whether it be West whether it be South whether it be uh East Fort Worth um and we felt like you know now is the time to really really be become more engaged in in other parts of the city so we love what's going on in downtown um we particularly like that southern quarter of activity with the Texas A&M project the convention center expansion the Omni Hotel The Deco 969 project there's there's $1.3 billion if you just add those projects up of investment currently underway in downtown Fort Worth and so we wanted to be part of that and we don't really know exactly what we're going to do but there's there's a huge amount of Interest I mean just since we announced that acquisition there's been incredible uh um incoming uh so I'm uh I'm I'm pretty encouraged and and we're going to continue to look for more for more ways to expand our our footprint and our flag um in the city so with that I uh am happy to take questions but once again I want to thank all of you and all the staff and the entire city for you know 35 years of partnership I think you can put this project up against any project in the not the country the world there's really nothing like it anywhere else uh where all of these pieces have been brought together in one place and you've got this sort of economic machine running so um thank you for your continued support and hopefully we can keep keep going thank you Mike Council M Block I think you had a question so first Mike thank you very much for the presentation today hillwood's been a fantastic partner to the city of Fort Worth to district 10 to Keller ISD and Northwest ISD and can't say how much the companies appreciate and you're appreciated I uh did want to ask one question or you mentioned 170 I think there's some news about 170 today are you aware I hope they pulled the barricades today because I'm dying to drive on those main Lanes So the plan was that they come down today but I haven't I've been here so I haven't right no I haven't but you now you've now you've got me you piak my interest I might drive all the way out there just to just to drive them thank you very much yes sir thanks for all your your help too and appreciate your service thank you Mike counc well thanks so much for that presentation um I think all the big picture stuff is amazing especially with what's going on Fort Worth alleviating what I feel we property taxes down the road and putting that back on the corporate side but I also want to say thank you to you and your team uh for what youall are doing in North Fort Worth for the families of Fallen uh service men and women um by graciously giving some land for the gold star families Memorial monument that hopefully will be announcing more details on but um Eric Elrod and the rest of your team they're just knocking out of the park with taking gold star family members out there looking at the the different options uh so I just want to thank you and your team for that well Charlie thank you for bringing it to us um you know I think it's a perfect fit it's it's a great location for we wouldn't have known about it if you hadn't brought it to us so thank you very much may fortim bans Mike I just want to say thank you I think it was 2000 or 2001 when we first met and because of your company we have what is now known as the TCC Opportunity Center so you and DFW Airport are the two presentations we always love to hear because you bring nothing but great news now I don't know if you know it or not but I dropped that CBS report off to the your headquarters one day I don't know if you can I don't know if you could play it because I don't have a recorder anymore but it's Deborah's uh we're we're trying to figure out how to how to play it so we can digitize it and bring it back to okay back to keep me real time thank you very much appreciate Gina any other questions or comments from Council I just say thank you Mike work together in a lot of ways and so I'm always privileged to be able to uh sit and listen to you give updates on the amazing work that you're doing and just thank you for your service to our community thank you all Council Mike you're holding out did you know that Mike's a really great singer I learned this yeah yeah now that's one video we definitely do not want to bring out yeah he and David Parker did a great duet but in all sincerity thank you very much I will tell you David Parker is a much more talented musician yeah y'all had a little liquid courage I think but thank you so much I really appreciate you but one thing you glossed over that I think is important to mention is um on the transportation Corridor of I35 you mentioned 170 um those two and just project in particular would have never happened um but for the re the leadership of Mike Russell Laughlin and your entire team trtc exists because of Hillwood and it shows because there's communities across North Texas and really across Texas that are struggling with major infrastructure projects and how best to partner with teot and because of your leadership you're about to finish 3C which is Monumental and I'm sure places like Austin are in an inviable position we are in an inviable position I I appreciate you making that point because it gives me an opportunity to a point out Russell Laughlin's leadership because you're you're right that would not have happened had really he not sort of grabbed the ball by the horns but it also beyond that it points to the fact that without the private sector taking leadership of these big Regional Transportation initiatives you're going to you're going to be waiting around for years if you just wait on the the federal and State tech. funding cycle you never get it done you'll never get it done so the private sector's got to push it you finished a larger project three three corridors of 35 in the time Austin hasn't even started on I35 in downtown Austin so um and we just know what a gridlock can create so congratulations and thank y'all for pushing so hard thank you and thanks for I mean that was another Fort Worth partnership absolutely yeah appreciate it thank you Mike okay yall have a good day thanks Council we'll move to our next presentation which I believe is a will be uh Deon jordano will kick us off on an employees retirement fund in the city of Fort Worth y so de jordano Human Resources Director I want to provide some quick context and background of why we're here today and so basically the Texas government code chapter 802 requires a government entity the city in this case to perform every five years an independent audit of the Actuarial valuation studies and reports of a public retirement system the last Actuarial review that was conducted by the City by an independent auditor was initiated in 2018 and completed in 2019 at that time we Enlisted the services of Gallagher consulting firm we've since again enlisted gallager consulting firm to conduct the um audit for this year um and they're here today to present their findings I do want to share the findings were presented to the employee retirement fund uh in draft form allowed them to respond to those findings which are included in the summary that you'll hear hear today a summary of the final audit report can be found for those interested in in the public on the back table if additional copies are warranted they can reach out to me directly and we can make those funds that report available as well but please allow me to introduce Mike Ribble from Gallagher Consulting uh firm who will lead today's presentation Mike afternoon mayor and councel thanks for having me today do I need to share my screen or are you going to follow along Mike I think we're following along so if you just want to cue slides we'll we'll keep progressing slides okay well thank you so i' my name's mikro I've been with buck Gallagher company for over 30 years my entire career and I'm a fullly credential actuary uh sorry I couldn't be here today sitting stuck at my home in Frisco Texas um but I I focus on large Statewide and large Municipal Retirement System valuations experience studies and in this case the Actuarial audit uh that di mentioned um we did an audit for the employees retirements uh fund for the city uh performed by the rained actuary Gabriel rers Smith or GRS that they completed on the December 31st 2022 2022 Actuarial valuation of the fund he completed that in April of 2023 and then Gallagher began the audit in of the GRS valuation in July 2023 uh we did deliver a final report January 26th of this year and I'm going to briefly walk through the the findings so if you jump ahead to four slide there's executive summary uh the the process for the actual evaluation audit is it's conducted in two main steps first is the the full replication of all the the financial results of the valuation as produced by the retained actuary so we went through a full replication the second step is to review the evaluation report The Experience study and all the communications ensure they comply with EXL standards of practice for both for both of these steps we basically have what I call a clean Bild heal uh we have some observations recommendations that will be helpful in future evaluations or reports uh as mentioned the the retained actuary has acknowledged our recommendation they indicated that they those recommendations would be considered and work with uh the retirement fund staff to uh decide whether the appropriate changes what appropriate changes would be made to the Future actual reports or experience studies so moving ahead uh to I will next slide six I'll talk about the results matching which is part of our replication on the next slide uh this is the collection of census data is critical we were able to collect all the census data that the actuary used for the valuation uh and pretty much match that the the data that's in the report to the back to the census data that we received we recommended a a clarification of whether the annual benefit payments in the report include the cost of living adjustment that was approved effective one day after the valuation report and got that clarification uh would recommend that in future reports on the next slide not going to go through this but this is just overview of a process and the critical um start of any good process is the inputs which are in in the top row in green the participant data which I discussed the understanding the all the assumptions and methods that go into the report understanding the plan Provisions what the participants are are are to um to receive when they retire or die or become disabled or leave the or leave the city of for worth prior to retirement so uh we we collected all that information we understood all that information and the first key thing is the present value future benefits uh that's would be expected to be paid based on all those inputs um and so that that's the critical thing if we understand that and we can replicate that then I think everything else at the bottom you know liabilities uh or actual accruit is what's accruit to date and normal cost what's being earned in the future for future benefits uh those those just fall pretty uh well out of line from those um the value of assets minus that liability is the unfunded liability of the pension debt uh which gets advertised so the bottom line that we're trying to look at is what are the actuarially determined contributions that would be needed to sustain the fund is paying off the pension debt which is the amortization of the unfund the liabilities and then providing the acrs which is the normal cost so on the next side we'll kind of get an overview of how well we did on the present value future benefits and other liabilities in the top row is we we match very closely overall we match reasonably closely present value future benefits you can see in the right column at the bottom the bottom of the first section is within 3% we like to be within two point uh within 2% so we're matching very closely some of the other items normal cost and actual roal clude liability different actual roal firms use different technical measures um but in the in the end we felt reasonably close with the liability match and you'll see on the next slide how that translates into actual determined contributions in the top row is that act crude liability we were within 76% so very close um but scooting all the way down to the bottom line you know taking all the inputs and calculating the liabilities and what would be the actual ra determin contributions we're within 0.1% of payroll uh we're within or 0% of payroll within 0.01% of the dollar amount 15.6 million versus1 175. 7 million for an actual determent contribution so clearly we're able to replicate the matches uh the valuation very closely which gives us very good comfort that the actuar is using the correct data assumptions applying the assumptions correctly and the plan Provisions correctly on the next Slide the I won't hit all these but the the long-term projections that are in there fairly simplified projections that the the actuary did we were able to match uh within uh three years on the actual value the key funding period basis uh as far as how long the plan will be before SCH be funded so 55 years versus 53 years using use their actual acrude liabilities U but these these funding projections um are used as a operation point and none of the result differences you see here would affect the operation of the plan um just when you project out long-term differences you do get small differences in the projections my Qui question yes go ahead that on that chart it says period dictated by funding policy which gives you a different value of assets and when it's actually um solvent the fund is paid off what is the difference between those two the funding period incorporating only statutory contribution rights versus contributions those have U well there's ad hot call as are in the projected out in the very long future but there's additional risk sharing contributions that come in due to the funded status of the plan right those projections incorporate that additional funds that come in okay thank you okay moving to the next slide um I'm not going to go through all the actoral standards and then the next one U actal standards of practice just generally guide of The Guiding principles by which we perform our work uh they give us guidance on data quality the reasonableness of Economic and demographic assumptions how to measure liabilities how to use asset valuation methods and then actal Communications so we did go through each of the actal standards of practice uh that and considered whether the current Act was following those measures we found some areas where they could improve uh and we spelled those out in detail in the report I'm not going to go through them all but if we jump ahead to I think it's slide 202 but it's the he takeaway just keep going I'm going to talk to my friends about page numbers and read abilities there you go the recommendations on the next slide so we we did re have some clarifying recommendations around some of the application of the drop assumptions which is a deferred retirement option plan uh the member can elect to receive benefits while they're still near retirement but still working uh whether spouse mortality included um mortality improvements or not and and the reporting of annual benefit payments we actually had some more disclosures that they we recommended around the discount rate and providing support for it and what was a rationale for choosing certain assumptions experienced study that's currently we review The Experience study from 2019 I believe they have one currently underway that was in your in your documents as well um but that was performed by the retained actuary um you know good but we we go goes into great detail uh but the valuation reports were a little bit lacking and didn't always tie back to those experien so we we made some recommendations and the retained actory said that they would consider and work with the fund to implement on the next slide uh this is a the The Experience date from 20 9 indicated that some of the assumptions were selected to be conservative in nature and we recommend that the fund should at least consider the most appropriate assumptions both individually and in the aggregate um the in our in their response to the retained act did indicate that the current experience stud would use the most appropriate assumptions uh rather than conservative assumptions um so some of the disclaimers that and disclosures that we recommended putting in using conservative assumptions don't apply here if they do indeed use them um so that recommendation is apparently already in in process next slide so that concludes my remarks I think the last step um on we got through this process we had many meetings and we met with the the staff and we met with the erf board and now we're here to present this but I think the final step would be it's required to file this with the Tex supension review board the full report thank you Mike questions from Council one question and you can't read the future but once you once we filed a report with the Texas pension review board how long do we usually have until they is it commentary back or what actions do they typically take at that point I think generally you don't hear back there won't be any actions to take and I suspect that this one's pretty tied up that you won't hear anything back it's just a formal filing that needs to occur um but if they do have questions they will reach out don't bet but I wouldn't expect I my experience I haven't seen that a lot okay and despite the fact that our funding period is outside that 30 years that doesn't give you posi it goes back to this is more just are the calculations correct that that the valuation produced that funding period outside the period and we agree that they are okay far as um the and so there's this correction method that are under the risk sharing contri additional risk sharing contributions that are still required so um you know all that is still being followed behind the scenes this process was just to be sure that uh everything you know that the results are what they seem and there's no issues or discrepancies that we were a able to uncover might give a different result thank you Mike I appreciate that Dennis do you want to add anything to that I was just going to add we have two kind of parallel State processes going on the Actuarial is just to make sure that our actuaries gr their actuaries periodically that if the math were totally off yeah then I think we'd hear back on this report okay we also have the funding sound soundest restoration plan which is a different aspect of the the state board and we're working that plan I think right now we're still on track with them we will hear back you know we'll have to check in at some point but that's that is kind of a parallel plan separate from this okay thank you I appreciate that Council just was awareness the city of Dallas is in a different position than us altogether I only mention it because we s we share same media markets there's been quite a bit of attention on the state of their pension and it can be confusing for your constituents if at any point you need additional talking points that are Mike did a great job this is complex but um if you need if you need more assistance from City management I know that they can provide that to you if and when that time becomes necessary especially prior to next legislative session so thank you okay I lost my agenda Where'd I go hold on I've got a picture of it just in case I did that okay next is City benefits on mental health and Civil Service General employees and I think Joanne Hinton is going going to sub in correct for Holly she's coming around the back coming around okay that is correct thank you um so I just wanted to give you a little bit of a history lesson in 2017 and merro proen bons you were here Carlos Flores you were a brand new council member in 2017 we were $10 million in the whole and we had to come back to council twice in that fiscal year with hat and hand hand to say we need more money and that is prompted what you're going to see as I present about the Innovations and the new things that we've been offering in benefits that's what prompted our Venture down into this Innovation that we were working towards um so presently we do have a medical program just like pretty much everybody else does we have a wellness program physical mental social financial and we have a financial program so these are the the legs of our benefits program that we offer to our employees active employees and retirees and it all works together in in a cohesive Network so we've got the medical side with etam um a light is our new uh Healthcare concierge company we've got our Wellness with Virgin pulse and our healthy challenge program and then Financial with TIAA and then our resources for living our EAP does provide some financial support as well in 2018 we launched our employee health centers and we did that with a partnership with th th is the what 600 pound gorilla in this area and so you have a choice when you have something like that you can either Tilt at the Windmill or you can embrace the windmill we embraced it and so we did a partnership with Texas Health Resources that allowed us to open we're now up to four health centers for our employees retirees their families that are dedicated to our health our employees and our retirees you can get a same day or next day appointment most frequently except in the month of August when the wellness uh physicals are due but you can get a same day or next day appointment um they usually spend about 20 minutes per visit with you at other providers you don't necessarily get that kind of length of time and we do have free mobile and online care so if you're not able to go to the doctor's office you can do a free virtual visit with them we also have satellite offices and we have five satellite offices located also in the Taran County area in the Fort Worth immediate Fort Worth area and what we did we determined the areas and the locations for these by using what's called a heat map which is where we did zip codes and who lives where and that's how we determine the locations of where these uh facilities are we've been very fortunate for almost the last five years that we were able to keep our providers we did have two retire this past year in 2023 but that says a lot that they they retired they didn't quit they weren't unhappy they just had to leave us um another one she got married she moved across the country or to Allen Texas similar in my mindset um just didn't want to make that commute over here anymore um so we do have some new providers that have just started in with us with our wellness program we've partnered with Virgin pulse for the last several years um and they do a virtual program they have a you have an app on your phone you can do virtual you can do coaching you can do challenges we do challenges within the benefits office where I may say Okay benefits team can we uh how many steps can we get over the weekend that kind of thing we have on-site programs and we're very excited that once we get to move to New City Hall we'll be able to bring some of these on-site programs with us so we have uh exercise classes Zumba yoga we have lunch and learns we bring in a lot of our different vendors to do presentations and lunch and learns to our employees and then we are Blue Zone certified with many of our buildings and that was a process that we underwent before Vicki retired so probably in 2017 2018 and this encourages a healthier work site for the wellness program you do have a premium reduction option for those who are on our health plan and it lowers your premium a little bit if you do your three requirements the biometric screening the um member Health assessment and the tobacco affidavit and then there's an incentive for everybody whether they take our health insurance or not everyone is eligible to participate and receive up to $250 in account cash payout um we do and you get points for engaging in certain activities through the Virgin Pulse app so if you do a challenge you may get x a number of points or if you do uh attend a meeting you get 500 points if you donate blood you get points all of those are ways to engage in the program in 2023 we had uh 89% of our staff were enrolled in the Virgin pulse platform The Benchmark so across the country is only 54% part of the reason that we have such high engagement High enrollment is that $1,200 uh stick that we we have on them as a result it looks like our engagement is a little bit lower in terms of physical engagement only 25% of our people participate versus 31% but that's because we've got such high enrollment to begin with so that's kind of where that number changes a little bit with the wellness program we do offer discounts to our all of our local community centers that have athletic facilities or gyms I guess um and they have different levels depending on the the community center but we do offer a discount to our employees and their families if they wanted to start using the gyms at the community centers and this will be helpful when we move to New City Hall because you know at New City Hall we do have a gym already in the facility this kind of provides for all of those people who may not be at New City Hall so here's where we start talking about some of the different Innovative programs that we offer the first one we offer is a rosty and it's a soft tissue muscular skeletal kind of benefit they do um kind of a combination of uh soft soft tissue muscle manipulation they do some kinesthetic taping and it helps you recover from a soft tissue injury and they're fantastic in that they usually can get you better within about three visits and they don't keep you hanging so if you can't get better in three visits they tell you this is beyond our scope we're going to refer you to somebody else for an MRI to see if what's really going on there they do also have a virtual option available so that you can do virtual physical therapy with them as well it's a $15 co-pay if you're on our health center plan um but 91% of our patients were able to respond or resolve their situations within about that three visits similarly we have hinge Health hinge health is virtual Physical Therapy you do that on through your an app on your phone they watch you do their exercises um they may send you a machine a TENS machine or something like that to track what you're doing um and they both do chronic and acute situations it's covered at 100% for our health center plan and we've had 492 participants so far use this benefit with a 45% reported reduction in pain and a 62% % decrease in surgeries so that's doing what we're wanting to do we're trying to avoid the surgeries if we don't have to we have on-site athletic trainers and this is pretty unusual for the city but we have onsite athletic trainers that support those in the more physically demanding departments so um code fire tpw water what they do is they work with cardiovascular fitness econom driver ergonomics um stretching training they average about 180 visits per month annually about 2,000 visit visits and it saves workers comp program of an estimated $1.6 million having these these trainers athletic trainers here on site we do offer a second opinion or an expert medical opinion and this is a benefit that allows people to talk to another doctor in the event that they've been diagnosed with something that may be more than they can handle or new information um this is a covered by benefit by the for those on the health plan um and you get a leading expert across the country it'll be a virtual visit they'll get all your information from your provider and be able to come back to you with well this is what your information says yeah we agree with that but here's this new option that may be a better benefit for you or this treatment may be a better treatment offer offer for you surgery plus is a benefit we've been offering for quite some time and it's a bundled surgery program surgeries people like to schedule surgeries on Fridays usually because you know that way you get the weekend to recover and to start to feel better before you go back to work on Monday surgery bless kind of takes advant of that by booking the surgeries maybe on a Tuesday in fact I took did a surgery on a Monday um which meant I did not have the weekend to recover I had to come back to work on Tuesday with my hand all wrapped up but with this bundled surgery they're able to lower our costs and that's a big deal um they are able to reduce our coverage they reduce our costs be doing a bundled surgery for us they primarily Target muscular skeletal but that is not the only option but that is their bread and butter we've had 1,074 employees have surgeries through surgery plus with a savings of about 18 million because of the bundling of the surgeries hello heart is a cardiac program and it provides a digital um blood pressure monitor that will connect to an app on your phone so that you can go and have your blood you can take your blood pressure you know maybe your child just came in and said Dad I just crashed the car you can check your blood pressure see how things are going with that kind of thing and it can use it to track your blood pressure and take it back to your doctor and so that you and your doctor can have conversations about wow it looks like on Tuesday City Council days your blood pressure is really high but on Wednesday you're doing a lot better those kinds of situations it helps you provide that information to your doctor so you've got a good relationship and good feedback with your doctor about your blood pressure uh 61% of our employees who have high blood pressures do engage in this and they've reduced their blood pressure in average of 16 points with an average of $3.1 million saved due to Heart emergencies they're also able to um notice things like arrhythmias and unusual heart beats heart pressures um with this app as well so they've noticed that in several people and have been able to refer them say you really need to talk to your doctor about this we're noticing this unusual heartbeat Verda is our diabetes uh reversal program for type two diabetes in the city of Fort Worth which is not uncommon uh diabetes and heart disease are our two largest cost drivers they are what we have the most of at one point when I first started here one in six of our employees had type 2 diabetes one in six so um that's a thousand people that have that so we did launch Verda in 2019 I want to say and what it is it's a um a hi touch High coaching program that works with the members puts you on a high keto diet I think is what that's called and they work with the members to help lower their weight help lower their uh A1C and eventually hopefully get them off the medications um 520 employees have participated in this program to date losing $6,300 pounds which is an average of 6.5% of their body weight 38% of our members have limited medications this has been a very great program that we've offered I was just on a call literally yesterday with their team where they had a um testimonial from one of our members from code she said she could climb stairs again and didn't feel nervous about that because she no longer had any joint pain she had lost 30 pounds and was feeling fantastic and really appreciated the support she received from the verta coaches we do offer other nutritional programs in the Virgin Pulse app there is Health coaching that's free and available to everyone we do offer Weight Watchers and wonder Health Weight Watchers I think now just calls themselves ww but that's a weight those are both Weight Management Programs that you can join or your spouse can join to or children over the age of 18 to help work on your eating um eat fit go focuses on behavioral modification and there's one-on-one coaching available so these are all available for people who would like to work on their weight mental health this is a big deal um I've worked in benefits 25 years and three years ago I saw my first what we would consider a high cost claimant a high cost claimant in the benefits world is a little probably a little bit different than what you're thinking about but a high cost claimant is somebody who's over $100,000 I've never seen a $100,000 claimant in for mental health specifically this is huge so we've tried to really bring in Partnerships and programs that will support the mental health of our members and our um their families um for children we offer bright line which is a virtual mental health provider for children ages 18 months to 17 years now obviously you're not on the 18 you're not putting the 18 yearmonth old in front of the screen and letting them talk to whomever they're talking to you're working with them you're working with the family the family is working with the therapist um all the way up to the age of eight 17 years they also can provide IEP support so if your children do need individual uh education plan support they can help you with that so that's a great benefit that we've just started P this past May um and we've really seen we haven't seen a lot of utilization yet but we're we're hoping to see more of it talk space is another option that we have available and that's for teens and adults so 13 and above um again it's another virtual app virtual therapy for teenagers and adults um therapists and psychiatrists who can provide medication if that's appropriate that sort of thing tedoc does have mental health appointments available within their app as well with teledoc you would be seeing the same provider um and covered on both the health center plan consumer Choice plan at 100% more mental health we have the resources for living which is our EAP we have offer six free counseling sessions per issue um covered at 100% And they can help you work through you know mental mental health Suicide Prevention crisis resources that sort of thing and then they also provide work life balances so if you need to help writing a will or you need help financial help they offer support in those areas our utilization rate on the EAP is about 7 % the standard the national average is below 10% so we have a lot of support for the EAP and Mayu health is a coaching program that we just launched this last year with a in partnership with resources for living it's literally more of a coaching situation where you just work on an eight-week program each program has a focus and you just work through each week's program focus and they do little activities you have a little meditation um and you have a licensed emotional health coach for financial programs again we have fit finfit through the Virgin Pulse app and they provide information about building a budget financial planning improving your credit those sorts of things we do have the 457 so we talked a little bit about the pension the 457 is on top of the pension this is what we offer so that maybe you can buy that uh RV to do your trip around the world in around the US instead of staying in a home that sort of thing with your 457 money it's just like a 401k for those of you who are from the corporate world and then again with the EAP they have a free half hour consultation on budgeting mortgages credit and debt issues those sorts of things smart light analytics this is actually one that I am fairly passionate about because smart L analytics is a a fraud waste and abuse company we engaged them in 2021 and what they do is they comb through our claims data looking for fraud waste and abuse and they find it and they keep finding it which is both exciting because that means they keep finding it but a little disheartening because that also means that there are people out there who are fraudulently just constantly open up new ways to try to cheat our employees to try to cheat us um what they do is they use AI to comb through all of our data and then they find things that are not correct they find prescriptions that are written out of Houston for a doctor that a person has never seen they find um scams that doctor's offices may be running where they have a physician assistant who is in the network when they're at the doctor's office but is not in the network somehow magically when they're doing the surgery and somehow that means they're eligible for more than 10 times what the surgeon is being paid those sorts of things they're looking for and they put a stop to it in any way they're able to do so I know that personally I was called maybe a few months ago where I got a phone call and they said hey did you know that this is now covered through your pharmacy program they called the wrong person because I know that what they're talking about is wrong and I said that I said no you're that's not correct no that's this is a new benefit just give me your number well I know this I know this is a scam but your average employee doesn't necessarily know it's a scam so now they've given over their pharmacy number and now they're getting claims being build to us that the member never sees and they find those pharmacies and they shut those down for us um I am very excited about this program because I don't like it when people try to cheat our people that's not okay to me and it shouldn't be okay to any of us they've so far realized $3.9 million in savings for us by shutting down fraudulent claims and duplicate claims and those sorts of things so from a benchmark comparison we're just like the city all of the other cities we offer medical dental vision life insurance disability insurance we're we're just like everybody else here's where we get to be different we offer things like the Expert Medical opinion we offer the physical trainers we offer um hello heart we offer hinge Health we offer Verda we have nutritional programs we have a number of EAP Pro or mental health programs this shows where we're different and that's what's exciting and that's where we are making a big difference in the the financial of the city but also in our members of our city um we do have we have had some speaking engagements on some of these benefits um I spoke at the ehir Roundtable in October I will be speaking again at the salba conference in April of 2024 uh Holly will be speaking at a healthcare conference in March and the world at work conference in May and then we did do a couple interviews with um interview people what reporters that's s we did interview people you know with people who'd interview people The Wall Street Journal and patient rights activ Advocate talking about the benefit programs that we're doing and what we're doing to try to help us save money and do you have any questions thank you Joan Council Beck I do thank you so much for doing this um when I asked this question um and you could have known but really it was that comparison chart at the end that I wanted to make sure um that we were competitive with um with other cities and with other institutions around tan County so thank you for including that and thank you for working so hard to make sure that our employees do have um what is really an impressive benefits package when it comes to keeping us um you know keeping them safe and healthy um and on the right track so that they can come to work and be happy and make our city better there are two things that um I would challenge yall to go back and look at um and one of those is the um the employee health centers and um if if that what is the possibility of expanding that to children outside of illness to just for ease of our families as often um you know people choose to go to one family doctor and if we can expand that to uh make that viable for them I cannot speak at this moment on conversations that will be that are occurring behind the scenes at this moment perfect thank you and then the second thing I'd like to challenge you on and Richard saala is is he back is he back there he's gonna hate me um [Laughter] so um well good then I don't even feel bad about what I'm about to ask for um right now we offer um a discount to our employees um to take advantage of our community centers um and I'd like to know what that cost would be to expand that to allow them access um specifically to those that we know that have the workout centers um as at no cost or further reduced cost to really encourage them to go um and utilize these particular um facilities and Richard doesn't mind at all so we'll be good well I mean we can do the math and figure it out I know that right now we do not have a significant number of employees attending but I think if once we said the free word that could change um but we could we can look at that and see where where that could come from yeah I think U the benefit to that is is beyond just um the the physical and mental health benefits of being able to work out but it also provides our employees that third that third space to go on the way home and um really participate and be part of our community and um in a different capacity thank you so much I just want you to know that you are making the city of Fort Worth the employer of choice and I have to say it's not just me of course I have uh four benefit staff and two Wellness staff who work very hard very hard to support these 6,000 plus active employees not counting the 440 members who are on their own plan and the 3,000 retirees it's we work um and we're very we're all very passionate about keep it doing this for our employees and for our uh citiz for our employees and our retirees well let me tell you who your biggest cheerleader is it's a lady named Denise cook that being the wife of our city manager who because of Denise David got a Sunday appointment that he didn't think he could get that's when you were sounding like very white for a while but I was at at a reception and Denise was there I was having to make a decision about Medicare you because I'm 69 and she just kept on talking about the benefits and she would look at at uh where is Dianna she'd look at Dianna and look at David for your affirmation I think she knew more about the plan than both of them did and so I'm just you know she she's the cheerleader but this is awesome and I hope I have that presentation so I can look at it some more now do we do anything special for old people not yet okay but I have um just recently spoken with uh I will be speaking in a couple weeks with an organization about certified age friendly employment and so I will learn from them what it is we're looking for for old people well I I will suggest you talk to un Health Science Center that's where most of my doctors are and a lot of people know I got real sick after going to Holland and you know this this weight loss is not because I stopped eating it's because I was sick as hell but what they were able to do was basically triage me every time I go in and so I think they are a great partner you might want to talk with them even the staff there knows how to talk to people who are older and there's no cluster of rooms but you we we will be the employer of choice and so this is great to see and David whatever you need to do for Valentine you need to make it up to Denise because they she's great at promoting what they do any other questions or comments from Council Joanne great job today thank you very much thank you so much you have a great afternoon you too Council next is a briefing on the 2024 housing tax credit applications with Victor Turner Neighborhood Services director good afternoon mayor council uh this is that time of the year again when we get applications from developers from all over uh to do work in the city of Fort Worth uh this year we had initially about 15 that had inquired about doing a project in Fort Worth we ended up with uh 10 uh just just a quick background on tax credit program uh every state gets an allocation of tax credits that the IRS calculates that this year $2.90 per capita and so from those credits they uh award those to developers based on the criteria that's in their qualified allocation plan which is called the the qap and as you can see the developer identifies a site uh in Texas we require cities to have input uh as far as locations and points that can be awarded uh by supporting the project or not supporting and then tdhca reviews applications uh once they award them those developers are free to um uh look for a syndicator to sell those credits on the private Market to uh produce the equity for the projects uh the two things that's most important here is the scoring uh for a resolution of support is 17 points uh resolution of no objection is 14 and just the difference in one point can uh keep a development from getting uh funded at tdca and then also they can get an additional Point uh if we commit any type of funding which can be waiver fees and permits as long as it's $500 or more you also see um uh notification of uh neighborhood associations and and staff and the pro the project has to meet uh fair housing here's a a little information on notification process uh Council m has to be notified neighborhood services staff uh superintended by the affected U impacted School District um it must have at least one session we allow them to have a virtual session if they so choose and then you see the amount of time they must notify those uh neighborhood association in advance uh here uh you can see the differences between the resolution of support resolution of no objection and the main differences that that last line where it talks about if the project is located in one of those uh High opportunity areas or uh cni neighborhood or uh revitalization area I mentioned earlier about waiver fees and permits can be part of our development funding you see in the blue of those that are eligible for fee waiver and then just this year uh Park dedication fees uh were added and we asked that the developer consult with our Park and Recreation Department about that and then what's not waved is transportation and water Wastewater impact fees here's a list a map of all the the projects uh as I mentioned there were a total of 10 uh you see the council District they're located these total about 600 well 649 units there are three senior projects in this one in the group and three rehabs with two of those being a conversion from a different type of facility to housing uh first one is up north in Council District 4 uh Huntington place it's a senior project for those age 55 and up uh it does um require zoning change uh it's located on bwood Boulevard some of the proposed amenities include a game room pickle ball court dog park um this project was uh application was withdrawn in Council District 5 uh next is Hughes house of course Hughes house is one of the phases of development for our chores neighborhood initiative uh this is for worth hous Solutions and mccor MC Baron uh this one is tax exempt I fail to mention all the projects are tax paying with the exception of this one with the Housing Authority being uh tax exempt uh agency uh 78 units uh in this particular development uh is located uh EAS of Ros there and west of cow delar Chase is a a rehab I believe the current uh apartment complex is called candle Chase I believe uh on a corner of a h and Alta Mesa uh 116 units uh sagebrook development is the developer of Megan lash they've done quite a few rehabs one you may have heard of clo place that they did a good job converting so they're developer here syamore Senior Living another uh senior development 88 units uh there will be a zoning change required for this particular development um it will include a fitness facility uh it's also close to grocery store I believe wco Foods is close by and some other uh amenities georgean Oaks uh this would be a rehab conversion to housing located downtown near um the uh Hilton it is it will include a kitchen cyber Lounge fitness center and some public art and courses within walking distance of a lot of amenities in downtown Marin Grove um this is the former Lady of Victory Center very large uh facility uh that would be converted to housing it will also include a lot of amenities uh cyber Lounge fitness center public art it's also close to a Walmart neighbor Hood Market uh this is also being done by uh sagebrook what's a cyber Lounge uh games okay sorry I should have known that different than a game room different type of games got it this one was this one was withdrawn uh they did it on January 31st so right now it's in the MNC so we'll have to make uh some changes to that so uh disregard Avenue at Lancaster is that project not moving forward counc it's not at all okay thank you and the loss at Redwood uh 88 units it's on the intersection of 820 and Highway 20 287 uh this one also require a uh zoning change uh it will include a pool a resident Garden dog park close to some um convenience stores uh small groceries so believe that's the last one on the list this particular one was withdrawn so out of those 10 there are seven uh being recommended for resolution of of support um you also see the three that have been uh withdrawn the timeline you can see we are now at February 6 our staff recommendations for Council work with MNC next week uh deadline is March 1st uh for the application to be submitted to Texas Department of Housing Community Affairs and then in July will be the awarding of the the tax credits questions thank you Victor questions from Council counc Nettles thank you Victor great presentation uh I believe you stated that we started out with five 15 applications and Dro down 10 out of those other five that were not on the slide uh did they not meet the requirements or get scored or were there uh or did they not have the support of the council members for those five uh various reasons some of them decided not to go for it for financial reasons some of them felt they may not Comm meet uh some of the things that we asked for um and they may have had some early conversation with some of you and may have decided to drop out as well just a variety of reasons I'm curious uh and you can send that to me offline through email what those five words and the locations CU I think you know of course housing is very important uh all over the city of for work and sometimes they do preliminary scoring with tdca and AC they won't be able to compete and sometimes they fair I would like to know thank you sure I was one of them oh the uh the the idea of a senior apartment complex uh on Bridgewood just was not safe you know we we have an an in line right across from the library and I just couldn't see Wheelchairs and you know other Transportation modes that older people need it's already a problem there but uh what what I wanted to just share with all of you and not just with this type of housing but we have to be careful about waivers and so I would just ask you all if you have a developer whether it's this type of housing or just regular people can wave away things like sidewalks entrances and there's a reason why there are rules in place you know you really do want to have a way in and a way out if that's what guidelines call for and so staff and development services knows when developers come with projects in my district asking for waivers they know to tell them you need to talk to the council office because you do not want to impact safety uh you do not want to allow a DE developer to you know get so tight with emergency vehicles coming in and out so don't take that lightly when you hear about a developer wanting waivers I want them to do everything our best practices dictate they should be doing and when you stand down for waivers you may be impacting safety and quality of life uh my neighborhood that was built in 2003 should have had a park but it didn't would have been good to have had an HOA and people hate h but would have been good if we did because there's a perimeter wall in my neighborhood that was built by TCC but there's no HOA so there's no money unless we trust each other but more importantly we couldn't even get the insurance turned over to us from TCC because the wall technically doesn't exist but it's there that's what uh Irma Johnson built that wall beautiful wall until a drunk driver ran into it and so just you know when when you're looking at these projects have have your antenna up for waivers very seldom is that a good thing those are my comments and I'll tell you more about old people sliding down it I also want to point out that the list that Victor gave was only for %. right correct yeah because some of us have 4% you know housing uh tax credit propositions going I have a comment go ahead Janette I just to let council member Nettles know that two of those that were withdrawn were my district they were not for my feedback I think scoring was a factor but what was not mentioned on a neighboring um thanks Janette Charlie you're good councilor Williams I'll jump in I appreciate the discussion councilor Nettles um I know in District Six instance we had three this year one was successful last year and came back for additional financing all three of them with or within one street of each other so they wouldn't have all made it through the process so um I think it's really important that we have this discussion given the affordability crisis we're in so it certainly U needed and we of course all have to do our part so we here here one clarification um I wasn't concerned so much with the three that was withdrawn that was part of the 10 it was additional five that was not on this presentation that's the uh CL that's the clarification I want know about yeah those they never would you off the hook Gina and Janette thank you yeah council member council member Nettles council member Nettles those never submitted an application to us at all anybody else no thank you Victor appreciate it okay Council our next and last presentation is payroll Improvement update with Fernando Costa and Valerie Washington thank you mayor council members you've asked us to update you on our efforts to improve the efficiency and reliability of the city's Peril process particularly as a pertains to our police and fire departments and so this afternoon as you're final briefing for the day Valerie Washington and I would like to speak with you about what we've done today where we are at present and how we would like to work with you on decisions about how we proceed into the future to improve our pel process and while Valerie and I are the ones speaking to you this afternoon the folks who have done most of the work are represented uh in the audience today from multiple departments particularly uh Finance human resources and it uh as well as police and fire of course uh which are directly involved uh in the process the law department for with lab internal audit and others so this has been in a classic sense 18 effort by uh City staff to bring to you a report on payroll improvements and this is an important topic U as reflected by some of the facts that are displayed uh on the screen uh payroll represents almost uh a billion dollar or over a third of our $2.6 billion uh City budget so we're talking about considerable resources and police and fire by themselves represent more than 2third of the general fund budget uh so that's a a big part uh of the general fund we have of course over 7,000 active city employees and from those who are in the general fund Public Safety represents well more than half about 57 percent and uh last year we processed uh over 180,000 payroll transactions so there are a lot of moving parts and there are many ways in which the process can go wrong if it's not uh properly designed so we're and trying to ensure that the process is designed to minimize errors and to improve efficiency now we're focusing on police and fire for a variety of reasons uh relating to the fact that their payrolls tend to be considerably more complex than the payrolls of other City departments they police officers and firefighters tend to work variable hours uh uh particularly uh uh firefighters uh they tend to work uh frequently on holidays at higher rates uh different rates from what uh we normally uh pay these employees they work uh disproportionately large amounts of overtime uh and they work with a variety of pay incentives uh that we need to take into account as we pay uh these employees for the work and finally uh a host of special Provisions in labor agreements uh collective bargaining uh for fire meet and confer which is now underway for police uh Provisions that are sometimes subject to interpretation uh how one person reads uh the agreement may not conform to uh uh how another person uh might interpret it uh and so police in Far important uh for us to address uh the Departments uh participating in the payroll process include primarily Finance human resources and it but all departments are involved uh in the process uh uh in one way or another we therefore formed uh a couple of years ago a payroll task force uh led by the city manager's office Miss Washington and I co-chair the task force but we have uh key staff from multiple departments Finance HR it forth lab law internal audit police and fire and recently we've added representatives of the uh police and fire unions uh to sure that they have a uh a seat at the table we've kept them informed along the entire process but we wanted to be sure that they were uh at the table uh as these discussions uh are occurring the project uh was uh much needed uh because we need to resolve the repeated challenges Associated uh with processing uh those uh fire police payrolls we needed to improve time and absence tracking invisibility wanted to optimize the calculation of payroll time for foreign police needed to reduce errors in fact uh often council members in the past would uh get word from Individual police officers and firefighters that their uh paychecks had had not been uh accurate and they required attention sometimes we'd make overpayments sometimes we'd make underpayments and we need to be sure that these payments are accurate uh we needed to rectify inconsistent application of policies the policies are complex uh and they sometimes require interpretation we needed to minimize uh multiple interpretations of the same policy and we needed to ensure full compliance uh with the adopted labor agreements we set five goals for this project uh to uh ensure accurate and efficient uh processing through automation we not wanted to reduce the number of manual steps in the process uh the more manual steps the greater the likelihood of human ear we wanted pay advises to be simple and easy to read I think we've accomplished that goal already we wanted to improve the enduser experience make it easy uh for everybody who's associated with the process particularly the recipient of pay we wanted to improve employee accountability everybody needs to be accountable for the accuracy of uh data that are entered into the system as well as for the results and we wanted to streamline the business processes we've already made significant progress on that front as well and so we wanted to focus particularly on three attributes of the payroll system the complexity of policies trying to simplify uh those policies and ensure as much as possible that the mut consistent we wanted to automate uh the process as much as possible reducing U manual steps and we wanted to ensure uh employee accountability uh if an employee wants uh an accurate U uh pay uh that employee needs to enter accurate data uh to ensure that we can process it properly uh We've adopted a phased approach uh to this project and I'd like to ask Valerie to come forward and and talk with us about it thank you Fernando um continuing on with the presentation as Fernando stated we adopted a phased approach um and we've essentially spent the last two years in the analysis and system build phase um which is why we're here today um in looking at the analysis and system build I'll tell you there was a lot more work in those processes than we had anticipated and you hear people say when you start peeling back the onion and looking at processes like there's just more and more um and and that's what we found in this case um in looking at the processes that had been in place when we had the mainframe system and we're processing payroll um and looking at how processes have evolved and been documented from that time and there were some challenges with that um also finding um where practices didn't match up with policy and trying to reconcile those issues as well um we have spent time in the system build phase uh the team working um with both police and fire with the ukg team to build a fire and police payroll system um I am proud to say that ukg has finished the fire build officially um they are about a month away from finishing the complete build for police and at that point in time once they have that build complete we'll be able to actually start testing the system we included a slide just to provide some of the history we have been here before talking with you about this payroll project um when it first when we first implemented it we came back uh about a year and a half ago um needing a project extension and we are here today um hopefully with a final um not a final report out because we are asking to keep moving on with the project project let us finish the testing since the system has just been built and then allow some time for the system to be tested before we come back to Mayor and councel and share the results of that testing and then provide recommendations for next steps as Fernando had stated there's been some wins in this process it's been challenging for sure for the teams working on this but there have been some wins um including the redesign of the pay advice um before we started this project it was really difficult for fire employees to read their pay advices um and be able to reconcile everything back to their hourly rate and pay um we have made huge strides and I think the paychecks are much easier to read um for police and fire um it's allowed for better team Communication in this city we do have multiple departments that are involved in the payroll process um and this has provided an opportunity for it HR the finance team to really work better together in refining those processes and communicating um and we've also had to spend time developing strategies to identify system workarounds um when you have a system or processes that aren't clear or are too complex people will find a way to make it work um and that's what we had to deal with in the system people found a way to make it work um so we could get paychecks issued to people um and I want to say that the most important part of this project is we understand how important it is to pay people on time um and that is one of our our goals we understand the stress that causes police and fire or any City employee when they have an issue with their paycheck and I would say lastly on this slide in looking at some of the processes refining them they have found um efficiencies in the hours associated with processing payroll um that some of the new processes that we have implemented have reduced that time from staff processing they shared our next phase is phase three and it's functional testing um as I said the vendor was to complete the system build for fire U by February of 2024 and I've confirmed again that that build is complete um the police department build will be finished in March of 24 and then we want to initiate um approximately five months of testing four months for fire and then four months with police with a month overlap um the goal of the testing now that ukg has built the system is just to test out the various pay scenarios and so that's the process that we want to start um to test out the system to see if it is working the way it has been programmed I will say we anticipate that it is going to work um the team has spent a lot of time building this with ukg um and we are fully anticipating that it will work we understand through functional testing that they will um you know test item a if it works you go to Item B and so there's going to be a lot of back and forth and communication these next few months in making sure the functional testing does work um because we want police and fire especially the Chiefs and their leadership teams to be comfortable with the processes that we have through this process our initial payroll budget um when we asked for this project was about $2.6 million um just the note in here we came back in January of 2023 um and added another $1.2 million to the project budget at this point in time we're asking um we have identified 365,000 in departmental budgets for police fire HR it and finance um to fund the $365 that it's going to need to extend into the functional testing phase um most of that covers the backfill resources so the Frontline team can be available for testing um and backfill resources are helping do their day-to-day jobs um as they work through that I do have an asct on here uh the revised project budget when we reallocate the $365,000 to the project budget is $4.2 million um but please note that we will be back after we finish the functional ta uh phase because there is additional funding that will be needed um to complete the project for a summary of upcoming Council actions we would like to bring in MNC on the February 20 7th agenda reallocating the funds from the Department into the payroll project budget um we would like to come back um immediately following the Break um and as we're preparing the fiscal year 25 budget to update you on the results of the functional testing and to plan for financials that we will need in fiscal year 25 and Beyond um for the ukg software solution and with that we'll take questions thank you hey Valerie um so I've got a list my first question is so uh we go to slide 14 for the F the $4.2 million budget um so was the original Budget on This 1.2 million how did I know that we're over I know that you've come back and asked us for money so so we've got 2.6 and then we did the 1.2 and now that 365 is that add addition to I'm not really clear on that so it is an addition to although are we're not asking for an appropriation of that the um funding is in the departmental fiscal year 24 budget so it is it is an addition to the project is it is it in the department fiscal year 24 budget for payroll are or are the Departments having to pull that from other projects um they're having to pull that from other projects so while you're not asking us for more money what functionally what's happening is that we're allocating 365,000 additional dollars correct correct via the departmental budgets but yes yeah that is correct okay um and then so I want to get some the 4.2 that's what we've spent total the well less than 365 yes okay and does that include money um that we gave to the vendor and staff time or yes okay and is that staff time for the backfield positions or is that does that account for generally speaking the staff time that we've spent on this it's been the back fi of for the positions but I'm looking at it my team in the audience and they're sh yes it's been for the backfill for the positions do we have any sort of um idea on how many um hours staff hours have been spent on this project since it's Inception I think in working with HR and I'm looking at Casey and di di I think that we would be able to quantify definitely the backfill hours I think we could work with the chief and um both of the Chiefs and their teams and get you some hours but I don't have that right in front of me and but I I will tell you that the team I mean we meet bi-weekly um and I know this team especially this past year has spent a tremendous amount of time in working with ukg and working through processes through in our collective bargaining and labor agreements trying to make sure that the system was built correctly and that has taken up a lot of Staff time um this past year and a half okay um how far Jay TOA initially told us this was going to take nine months and um it I don't even know how many months ago that was so when how far past the initial deadline that we said this was going to be done are we at this point so we originally um provided that 9mon time frame in August of 2021 um our original plan I think we had proposed that the build would be completed in fiscal year when we started the project in 21 um that it would be completed in 22 um once we came back to council last January the extend we extended the project to have a goli date I believe of May and June of 2023 um and we are now asking we're at the testing phase and we still need through I believe 2025 before we'll go live because we'll finish this functional build we then have um probably some end to-end user testing and then it's a big training effort to train um the Personnel in the Departments um so we're anticipating um kind of that worst case scenario I think there's some cushion built in there but it would be 2025 so that may 2023 date that you gave was that for the completion of the functional testing or that was the completion of everything um we had anticipated that we would have everything completed by that time and we weigh over I mean we just it was um I don't think that we had taken into account some of the process engineering conversations that we would need to have sure um but I I will have to tell you that that was um disg grossly underestimated even that original 9month build um as we've reflected with the team um it would been very difficult to have completed it in that time frame okay um and I'm not going to hold you to something that somebody else said but that was represented to this Council and um and so we're going from 2022 to now may 2023 and now 202 2025 and so in that so now we're not looking our police officers and our firefighters can cannot expect a reasonable reliable pay to be in place by the city until 2025 is what I'm hearing no that is not true we have guess like I said before we've the project will not go live until 2025 that is accurate we have made and worked with fire and police in the meantime with some of the process Improvement so I think that fire and police are now more accurately getting paid more consistently and more timely um there have been occasional issues um for example um in working with the local on the fire side with the holiday pay scenarios that has been a challenge um but outside of those special scenarios um I think the team has been much more uh much better at making sure we're paying our police and firefighters on time and being responsive when there are issues but we're not doing it at 100% um no I mean we're not 100% in the new system yet so no um and I can't say that we've addressed 100% of Errors um but I would say errors have been drastically reduced do we know how many outstanding errors we have right now between police and fire uh let me I don't know um and I'm looking at my team to see if anyone has that handy if you don't mind um council member if I bring that information back to Mayor and councel that would be great um so you indicated that you were going to come back and ask us for an additional fund um and next fiscal year is that correct and what's that anticipated to be um if we make it through the uh functional testing which we believe we will um we are looking at um I believe it's approximately less than $2 million that would get us through to the end of go live um and cover the licenses and backfill expenses to get us to the project completion what happens if functional testing doesn't work then we will have to come back to this body and to city manager cook and let him know that the functional testing did not work the way we had anticipated and built it to work and we'll have to make a tough decision with this mayor and Council about what next steps we need to follow um because I think if functional testing were not to work we still have a gap um that we'll need to figure out um in ensuring that we're paying fire and police um accurately And Timely okay um I to use the word frustrated would be a gross understatement of how I feel right now about this particular issue um and mayor protim bons will often remind us that if you Google City of Fort Worth and payroll this issue is not new to us and um I appreciate the time that you spent educating me on the history of where we got there and we know that we didn't get it right back in 2010 when we didn't fully Implement people soft and so since 2010 it's 2024 now right so 14 years have gone by and we have limped along and we have normalized not paying our people correctly and I think today of all days um we are reminded of the job that our police in our fire do and the minimum the bare minimum that we can do as a city is pay them correctly and pay them on time and we're not doing that and it's looking like 2025 until we have some sort of reasonable resolution when you came back in um um what was it 23 and you asked for the 1.2 um I was real Direct in that in that and said that that was the last bit of dollars that we were going to give to keep trying to bandaid A system that we know isn't working and I appreciate the enormous amount of time that staff has um given to this to try to fix it and I appreciate apprciate the fact that um a lot of it was process U and how we were doing things that aren't a lack of process and so the benefit of this is that we have uncovered a lot of of those shortfalls and we are fixing those as a city U but we're still not fixing the the root issue which is getting our Our First Responders paid on time um I am not inclined I don't like that and and I personally U while I appreciate you've tried to do this without coming to us to amend any any budgets that's $365,000 that could be spent elsewhere and it's not it's going to this particular project um I want to know at what point in time do we rip the bandaid off and say that since 2010 this has not worked 14 years later we're still trying to make it work and we still have two years that's almost two decades by the time we get this thing implemented if functional testing works so I want to know what our backup plan is and I want want to know what staff has done to um and I'd like you to bring bring back to this Council what um a new system looks like and not just for police and fire but one that integrates the entire city because we' we have fixed the general employee issue generally right but we know that that at one point was a problem as well so I'd like to see I want to know what that dollar amount looks like and I want to know um how we get to that because waiting another two years to to make sure that they get paid correctly and timely is not acceptable so point of clarification to um to for Valerie ukg is a new system it's a separate software from people soft yes it is correct so what you're presenting here today is hopefully will be a new solution you're hopeful about functional testing yes I agree with Elizabeth's exasperation I do but I don't really see an alternative right now I think she's just expressing the frustrations of police and firefighters that have come to her and other council members understandably but what I'm hearing you say is ukg is a new solution that we are functionally testing that we hope to get to a place where you can come to us and say this is our new software application we're utilizing for the city of Fort Worth and I would anticipate the fiscal year 2025 ask will be significant if you're embarking on a new partner that's not people soft anymore correct correct and and I want to say we are paying police and firefighters timely and accurately and if issues arise we are addressing those immediately with the POA and the local 440 um I can't even think of the last time issues have developed outside of making sure we get the holiday pay corrected and that was did take us some time where we need to make sure we were paying firefighters for holidays they worked um and that's something that's shared with our entire leadership team um it has been I think the work that the team has done is worthwhile to get us to this point um I'm pretty proud that they have that ukg has been able to build a system because it was tough to get there um it was tough de making sure we had processes in place you were right there were some gaps in people soft that caused some challenges for this project but we were able to work through those gaps um and work effectively with ukg to get a system program that we can start testing um but I completely understand the frustration um it was not easy to have to come back and share this information but we wanted to be upfront and honest um and share we realize sharing the winds is a small bit of this presentation we think things have gotten a little bit better but we understand the need to fix the system and ensure that we pay police and fire on time and accurately um I know other Council have questions my maybe my request would be over the next several months when you start functional testing even if it's just an IR update to council about how that functional testing is looking so that they can anticipate good news come fiscal year or if it's some other departure what we're may be doing Council Bivens Valen Fernando thank you both for the presentation and you know if if folk around this table are frustrated you know imagine how police and fire have been and so I was encouraged when I I learned of the input from the 440 and the POA and if you can get a smile on their faces you know things are moving in the right direction and so I'm in encouraged PeopleSoft has been you know from the bowels of hell as far as I'm concerned but you know I I see us moving in in the right direction you know I I think back to seeing people lined up around City Hall back back in the day because of IT issues but uh one thing I do need help in understanding b or Fernando or I see Sherman anybody from POA and this is just for from for my clarity uh oh let me make this point first the idea that the 440 and the POA are at the table is a good thing and so to make that relatable to my Council peers imagine if we had been at the table of the move in of the new city hall and so it my you know I'm I'm I'm happy I I like it but you know I did tell the city manager we should have you know at least one somebody should have been there and yeah I was not that person don't want to be but having them at the table is helpful and so I'm encouraged by that now what I do need to be able to understand in my brain I think I have it uh I don't care who gets up to to the microphone but talk about improved K9 scheduling and processing how did that become an issue I kind of understand rookie you know transitioning to a real full-time cop talk about those two processes and and what has been done and I think that will give just an anecdotal overview of the kind of challenges you guys have had sure no thank you I was just looking in the audience I think Paula are you coming up okay Paula Conway from police department will come up and walk through some of the challenges we had with the k9's you want to come to this microphone yeah that ain't the good mic Paul you want to get over there so um our Police Department has multiple K9 units within it and we had grown and added to it and they are within the organization um spread across different bureaus and they have different missions so they have different work hours and the K9 unit is bound by not only our meet and confer we have some special pays um but it's also Bound by federal law for flsa based on productive time and they bring their K9s home so they are allowed to care for their um animals at home so it's considered work time um but we have different missions for the different units so we didn't have um aligning schedules uh so that made it difficult for the configuration in the new system so we're we're trying to do better internally on cleaning that up um the people soft system didn't account for the K9 care which was part of their work hours so they were having to enter their time based on their own interpretation of how um is it regular time or is it how do they enter it so it was being entered differently so we're trying to streamline that too so that's going to be um cleaner I guess you could say but with the special pay such as uh shifti K9 care is under contract with the meet and confer 100% uh gets shift diff hours so that that just configuring all of this um it it just complicated things but now we're working through it um PeopleSoft doesn't have canine car um the canine shifts built in it right now it still doesn't so they're having to manipulate their time sheet manually just in order to be have their their time sheet correct so we're working on the people Sol system at the same time as ukg so I hope that answered did answer your question yeah thank you on that I just wanted the folk around this table Jared I wanted you all around this table just to get a peak and two all of these manual processes that they've had to clean up and that's just one example and I think if you allow some grace allow some patience and realize it's not just punching buttons to make something right this has been very very hard work and so you know I I commend HR and IT and everybody else and I think at the at the end of the day I really like the time frame and that it's aligned with our budget process that way we'll know what to expect and what we need to put off in there but you I've been pissed off about people s for a long time but I think we're kind of getting there but if you just imagine that little bitty process multiplied hundreds of times you know you'll see how how time intensive and labor intensive this has been so my head goes off to you guys who who took that dive and leaned in and that's all I got so my question I I have to read I'll make it super quick um but just so I understand the that funding will come from the individual departments so they're paying for paying to fix a problem they didn't create is it I just want to make sure I get that right I would say they're helping pay for a problem that they are involved with um since it's a city I mean it's a Citywide and As and we're looking at the different departments honestly the team is trying to be creative um our first thought wasn't to come to Mayor and Council and ask for an appropriation but to try to do it within budgets um the teams are working and are documenting what that impact to their budgets are so we could fully understand that and honestly we thought that would be the best way to approach um this part of the ask to continue to get us to functional testing because we will be back um for other dollars that we're going to need an appropriation from mayor and councel to help us handle okay and now this the second thing is and I think Elizabeth will vouch for this too anytime like Uncle Sam ever gives you more money than you should have got they have no problem reaching back in your pocket and taking it especially at a time when you may not be able to afford it we see it happen all the time in the military so is there a mechanis mechanism in place since we know that police and fire is having this issue clearly they have a million and one things to worry about and this shouldn't be one but they are is there an audit mechanism in place to make sure that you know if they do feel like they're being shorted they can actually have a full audit that will then pay them what they were owed and on the opposite side if they were overpaid they'll get that that waved or forgiven is there do we have anything in place for them I believe that we do I'm looking at Chief fimas I believe if a firefighter looks at their paycheck and feels that they were underpaid overpaid they can come to the fire department to the finance office to HR and someone will sit down with them and walk through the calculations and validate whether there was an issue or not okay and I think that they would do that anytime a police or firefighter I think the Chiefs and the Command Staff try to do all they can to um handhold with that person and make sure they get the right service level to run the calculations to verify okay and once this systems a completely live would would our police and fire would they'll be able to go back and kind of do like their own self uh audit to see if maybe some of the numbers came out right because from what I understand it's like School Finance there's like three people in the state who actually know how it works so if they're able to go through and say here's what I worked on on on average then they can maybe see if there's any discrepancies will there be a way for them to kind of be able to do that because some may not know if they were underpaid or overpaid I literally got a text an hour ago about marines that were underpaid for the last drule and it's there's three people who understand military pay too so will that by chance be available to them once it's rolled out I am not sure Kevin I don't know if you know the functionality I think might have to come back once I check with the IT team and the project team on the full functionality and I'll share that with you I would think though that there would be mechanisms that a police or firefighter could go in and look at pass pays and pull up their paycheck and be able to do those exercises awesome thank you um in reading the um the process update that was provided us here I just want to make sure that I'm taking away because so far we've been talking about the um impacts of the payrolls of both police and fire not that I expect you to quantify it but in terms of uh the prevalence of technical issues they reside mostly on the fire side correct is that an accurate statement you know I would say anecdotally it feels that way um it feels like there just maybe I don't I can't say that their labor agreement is more complex but I would say it it does seem like we've had a little bit more issues on the fire side um more technical issues with with um some of the pays and that's what I'm talking about right now those technical challenges and I realize that you know collective bargaining agreement to you know offer challenges to the system but I just just kind of going through the report I keep you know looking at instances where there are more occurrences on the fire side than there is on the police side so um going back to your um to your upcoming functional testing is what I'm wondering right say if we get all the issues ironed out on the police side whatever they're remaining but we still have issues on the fire side you know that's kind of the scenario that that I'm running in my head right now what then you know it's hard to predict the future but uh you always have an alternative plan should that occur so what could be an alternative plan right say that after going through this exercise we resolve you know in effect what ails police and we're fine but fire still have some issues on their side you know do we continue on that vein or do we look at uh maybe a third party solution I don't know yeah I think that as we've gone through this process one we're looking at other cities um who pay police and fire and don't seem to have issues that we've encountered here in the city of Fort Worth um we're working with ukg who has supported fire and police and other cities um we may be the largest city that they've supported but they've supported police and fire contracts and departments um in other cities um I think if that were the case I think the first question I would ask with the functional testing is really making sure our processes aren't overly complicated um and to see if our pract our our best our policies and practices align with best practices um that we've spent a lot of time even looking at other jurisdictions and their labor agreements to see are we really complex are our processes really not aligning and do we need to do some cleanup work and most of the time I found that it's in the process is not aligning and needed to be cleaned up um so I I guess I think that the ukg product will be able to meet our functional testing I think that if there are little nooks and crannies in there there might be opportunities for us to look at our processes while still ensuring that we're following our collective bargaining and labor agreements but I think our our backup plan um the team has been um working with PeopleSoft and now ukg um I think that if something were to go freely wrong with the ukg testing um the team would stop we would see what support we need in PeopleSoft and we would begin looking at potentially other vendors um but I do want to say ukg is part of the TeleStaff family um they're a reputable reputable vendor um that again I want to make sure that our policies and practices aren't the reason why we're not able to uh do a software um implementation because I think there's been a mix of both right and and I mean I I read things and hear from a technical standpoint it says parallel testing fine I get that uh that would be appropriate generally speaking in a case like this um had par and this is my final question had parallel testing been used before up to this point Valerie or no so we haven't done any testing with this with the fire police and payroll project yet okay um they just have it built we have spent the last and the last year talking about developing that testing plan and the team has determined that it makes sense to have parallel testing once we have the system built and it's running to run it at the same time it's people soft um just to ensure that if there are any issues with ukg we would have people soft to back it up um so I think the strategy of using parallel testing once we get really into the functional testing and user testing is a good strategy because it's just a good safe double check um it does cost a little extra money to do that because you're running the two systems um but the team beles that that is the best way to ensure that fire employees get paid through the system cut over yeah okay well be thinking I would say humbly suggest be thinking of a backup plan in case we get a scenario where we're still not through with this Valerie just for clarification in the January 9th IR there's a final number total project number of 6.7 million I guess a million dollars in fiscal year 24 and 1.7 going in in 25 so I just want to get clarification the number that you're showing here for total project budget that's not the total project budget correct well it is the so right now the um 38 the 3.8 million is the project budget we're asking to reallocate 365,000 once we get through the functional testing we will be coming back for an appropriation um it'll be I think it's less than $2 million um but we will be coming for funding to get the system fully imp implemented once we finish functional testing and that's about $2 million so we've estimated the total project um and it's a high estimate to be about I think it was 6.7 total that's what's an and so I I guess I'm confused on that there was a 15% contractor contingency so would any of this on their side be covered I just don't understand how we ran over to as much as we have I think I understand the programmatic issues that we're trying to solve on fire and police but I mean just from a project management standpoint it looks real bad I think in honestly when in working with ukg um we the city have been the cause of some of that delay and working through our processes and making sure that our processes and policies aligned so um it's hard to attribute the delay to the ukg team um we have spent a lot of time in the past year again looking at policies reviewing policies um spending a lot of time on items like holiday pay for the fire department um that I think the contingency is wrapped in um and again team correct me if I'm wrong just in case as we're working with the consultant um that if we get into um the user testing and we would need additional support there would be some wiggle room in there um but I think the team could run the numbers without that contingency in there if you wanted to see that that' be helpful yes because I feel like we've expended everything we can um and just to clarify so the numbers in the IR and the January the 9th are not the accurate numbers for fiscal year 24 and 25 that is correct because we've uh changed we changed our um approach and we thought if we could finish the functional testing first and really confirm um that the processes that are being built before we come back and ask mayor and counsel for the remaining money to complete this project okay thank you so I will attempt not to belabor any point that's already made I have to completely agree with councilwoman Beck uh on the frustration levels and some of the issues she's raised uh I want to emphasize mayor prm's Point uh one of the early slides it was mentioned that one of the challenges was the interpretation of the meet and confer and collective bargaining agreements and uh kudos to bringing the other parties to those two agreements to the table um and I think it just goes back to we need to have the right people at the table as early as possible and that would have probably helped quite a bit with some of these interpretation issues with getting our requirements right and properly scoping uh so uh thanks for that the uh uh quick question I have is uh you know with revision retesting training and then deployment uh one of the things I think is currently fire uses telematics or t staff T staff for their sta daily Staffing right police does not so that's going to be a major change to police correct yes I police do not currently have a staffing software model um so the model that they're getting through this ukg project is going to be a new Staffing model okay um what's the com level there has there been significant discussions with the Department on that see Chief noes Chief Aldridge I don't know if you want to come up and talk to the Staffing model I know as the teams are working and they have subject matter experts from police um they are talking through those um Paula it looks like she's coming up she's been the main point of contact UM that she can give us an update on how those conversations have been going because I think it has been a challenge as police looks at a scheduling software like T down so throughout this build we've been bringing on specifically unit at the unit level specifically uh special uh spe sear special events and traffic and the ones that we figured that besides Patrol on a daily basis but the ones for big Staffing events and especially annual events um the feedback from those units is that if the TeleStaff portion is up and running and built and it it's working the way it works works for fire that it would make their job way more efficient it make planning more efficient rather than doing things the way they're doing things now so the feedback from the units is once we're doing these walkthroughs where the vendor has shown us the product um in in multiple meetings if that's the way once we go live it works it is going to be way more efficient for the police department so that's the feedback from the units that um we've B brought on board in certain meetings okay I appreciate that thank you you're welcome and then just one other clarification uh through the course of the presentation we heard through 2025 and then we heard we heard different time frames during the year 2025 so can you firm that up a little bit for us potentially yes we are look looking let me get to the microphone here sorry give me just one second here we are looking at a go live in 2025 for fire May of 2025 is that right team as I'm looking out and I believe police will follow after that so may of 2025 and then sometime in the summer of 2025 for police I believe they're a month apart September okay sorry thank you September 2025 for police May 2025 for fire and general employees will also be moved into the ukg system or they'll stay in people soft um at this point in time they'll stay in people soft okay okay thank you for the presentation I appreciate your efforts in Fernando on this thank you and council member block I do agree we were um we invited the local 440 in the POA to join our payroll task force um recently um I do agree I think it would have been more helpful had we had them at the table earlier as we were working through some of the processes and complexities but we're we appreciate that they're willing to join our team now and their expertise I think will help um get this project over the Finish Line any other questions Council Valerie oh sorry Elizabeth has one more yeah um I want to be real clear um I do appreciate the enormity of this issue and the time that you and your team have spent to try to unravel that and it is an onion and um like with some other processes here in the city um what we have found is that we don't always do them the best that we can and payroll is one of them um you see me get hot under the collar uh because payroll is our most basic function as an employer and I was really proud of the city when we had HR come up up and talked about all of our benefits and you heard me talk about being one of the the largest employers in Taran County and so we're better than this um we are absolutely we have to be better than this um and I'm not just speaking for police and fire who are frustrated and they have every reason to be but as a taxpayer in the city of Fort Worth I'm frustrated that we keep what feels like putting good money after bad in the sense of we're hbling along and we're we're extending this project and we've been dealing before UGK right we were dealing with it with peil soft right UGK is the the most recent let's see if this works to to make it happen and I hope it does I don't I I I hope that we come back after functional testing and it works I'm worried on what happens if it doesn't I think you've heard my colleagues Express that as well um I we I can remind I want to remind you and everybody at this table we can do hard things here at the city of Fort Worth we absolutely have that ability and sometimes hard things are saying listen we've been doing it this way and maybe it's time to cut bait this isn't this isn't working for us anymore and I don't want us to get so marred down in the fact that we've we've been investing time and energy into this project to not be able to take a step back and say look it just isn't working and that's really the assurance that I'm looking for today is that as we get through this process when is enough and when do we say okay it's time to do the hard thing yeah I can assure you that as Fernando and I and the team have talked we're ready to have those hard discussions they said with the work that's gone into the build with ukg we we do think it's going to work but we're ready to come to the table if it doesn't and have Solutions and ideas um so we'd be more than happy to come back and discuss that with you Fernando that's the purpose of this phased approach we want to take a close look at the process during this testing period keep the council well informed not wait until the end but then come back to you with a recommendation we may find that it works beautifully we may find that it requires some adjustment that's why it's it's not necessarily a yes or no decision at that point we'll come back to you with full information and a recommendation all this is happening as we're formulating the fiscal year 2025 budget uh so it's a variety of moving parts that we'll bring back to you for a decision in due course else thank you Valerie app thank you okay Council iide we have one more very quick presentation that Carlo is going to do remotely go ahead Carlo mayor councel and uh if you can't hear just wave and I can switch to my phone so get excited uh so Carlo Capia chief of strategy and Innovation get excited because the biggest event in the world is coming to North Texas two and a half years uh the World Cup coming to Canada us and Mexico just wanted to give a quick update and by the way um before I do that council member florid is you'll you'll be happy to know I'm in Coral Gables Florida right now where they've uh taken notice of our vision zero program and so um they've asked other Chief Innovation officers here are learning about our vision zero program but we're all talking about the World Cup everyone in the world is and so first we're going to show you a video and I'd like to Comm and our Communications Department because they put together this video highlighting North Texas's participation that would make FIFA envious uh when they see it so let's roll the [Music] video [Music] great now I'd like to re reiterate that video was done inhouse with the talent we have in the city of Fort Worth and I'd like to recognize the young man behind that video he did this in like half a day uh Cameron Gorman from Communications cam could you just wave your hand so we can recognize you good job Cameron I think you're about to be really busy Cameron uh that was incredible now so I'll be honest of course we really wanted the final match so it was a little bit of a downer but we have something to celebrate and that's nine matches we are the only city the only region that got nine most got six or seven every one of those matches will have the economic equivalent of one Super Bowl which is is remarkable um we uh so let's go through the of the nine games and this also means more tickets for the region and for our city so of the nine you can see we've got five group stage matches which means when they split the teams up into the brackets and play each other we'll have five of those games and then four elimination games that's like that's the winner go home that's where all the drama happens in the World Cup a lot of that's going to happen right down the street in Arlington and of course the semifinal that's probably worth a Super Bowl and a half of economic equivalent uh this will be the largest World Cup in history before it was just 32 games the 32 teams they expanded it to 48 for this year before it was 64 games now 104 games that's 104 Super Bowls in 30 days in the in the continent of America uh uh Canada us and Mexico which is pretty remarkable um and so in closing I'll just show one other picture we represented Fort Worth at AT&T Stadium on Sunday during the announcement special thanks to council member Hill and her husband as well as former deputy CD manager Jay Choppa and Jason Sans of the for sports commission you know on this scale any win for Dallas any win for Arlington is a win for Fort Worth and a win for the region and I'll close by saying I remember in back in 1994 I was 15 years old and I went to my first and only World Cup game in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas and it was one of the most incredible memories of my life and we are going to create these experiences and these uh emotional momentos to steal a word from Patrick Newman our friend at the botanic gardens uh this is something we can be so proud of and hang our hat on and uh really look forward to this coming in two and a half years so get ready the world is coming to North Texas thank you Carlo appreciate it be safe coming home from Florida Council that's last president presentations do we have future agenda items I do yes we do Ellen I'll start with you and just move around the table so uh mine's real simple I just want an informal report on the TCEQ air quality permit process and then uh potential City role in monitoring okay thank you Alan council member bons I'd like to see a revised team to include a council member as we do a true up of the move to the new city hall I think you all saw my picture of me hugging my wall I have no complaints but I'm concerned about the numerous complaints that hit tanion and it's just not fair for him to be the recipient of all that we need to formalize that kind of system but I think you can see it uh improved if one of us around this table is on that team I don't want it to be me but uh I just heard you volunteer Gina no no but you know David knows what's what I'm looking for anyway that way as we continue to move other departments in you we'll we'll be up to date uh the other request I have involves Maps now David I think I think I've told you naming what's what's that department the Fort Worth lab that's really just a way of letting people keeping folks from knowing what the budget department is so that's the way I look at it but I have a request because I've gotten some push back from your big idea people because I need some big Maps my district is configured weirdly it has an elbow that includes Lake Arlington and we go as far east as DFW Airport they've been pushing back I've never had a department push back on maps that I want and so we need maps and y'all need this too so listen real carefully we need maps that show us where every Community Center is in our district where the streams creeks and rivers are since we're off into your Open Space Project right now flood plane of course schools a neighborhood and homeowner associations because right now we learned if you just have four houses on a street you can create a neighborhood association and I think that's kind of weird and what had happened was I was told you know through through Sandy that it cost too much well the city manager should provide and and that's what what the charter says so those big idea people I need you to talk to them and I'm going to submit my map request another time but this this is totally unacceptable that they can tell my office what we don't need CH now the Bible I read I said the Lord shall provide but I guess the city manager you're up there my brother I'm just saying I don't know the Lord ain't taking my request that's I hear I hear you I hear you I'm just all right here we go I got three um I want to uh see and I know we got budget coming up so these are a couple of these are budget items uh how can we um increase our PCO and our budget uh to help uh write the neglect that we have on our infrastructure U me and Jed are working on a few things and we really want to see maybe IR come or let's talk about that before we get too far into the budget process secondly um other cities have been uh putting um housing dollars uh supporting Neighborhood Services in the bun I know we're getting ready to start working our bun in 2026 and so I know Dallas San Antonio has put s Houston several millions of dollars uh in our bonds to support the uh the Gap in our housing lastly but not least uh apparently there's an ordinance uh with code compliance that they can go on to private property and tag um nonuse vehicles uh and so I want to look at that ordinance and see if it needs to be updated because if it is on private property um why are we tagging those Vehicles they need to get them fixed but let's talk about the ordinance those are my three the Lord shall provide okay I have a couple uh I would like uh the appropriate staff to consider adding a an option on the my Fort Worth app to report gunshots because we collect uh Geo data there and it'd be a lot easier than staying on a menu waiting to talk to somebody to report a gun shot and I think that would help us in data collecting uh to ascertain where these are occurring second one um and and I've talked a little bit to the store preservation staff about this and I think to Dana also uh I think we need to revisit uh whatever processes we have uh when it comes to ensuring that any piece of art that has been um you know given to the city of Fort Worth uh you know by Fort Worth Public art or another entity uh that it does get preserved and not overlooked in the rapid pace of redeveloping Redevelopment in our city especially in our historic areas so I'd like to revisit that maybe codify that better so we don't miss anything that's all I have Charlie yeah um I'd just like to get an update on where we're at with either selecting a vendor or what we're going to do about the um better known small business initiative of contracts and the disparity study I think we' mentioned I just if there's an update on that and then if we get another update on Waste Management specifically night Waste Services um and if there's anything our residents can do because now we have some that are talking about complaints to I think tcq over and not being collected because the weekly requirement and they're being told hey just uh just put it extra stuff out next week uh but then they're still paying full price so if they have any recourse for being told by night that hey we'll get to it eventually or we may not it's in God's hands so jar did you have anything go ahead yes thank you I have two um the first one I want to request an IR um if possible within the next 30 days so the next meeting work session if that's in 30 days that um for development services and Melinda to look at um uses that tend to proliferate together um including um dollar stores car washes vape shops convenience stores and Liquor Stores um to see if um we need to look at distance requirements I know currently we already do that with um Dollar Stores um and discount stores and so would love to take a look at that and to see if they're also in the right zoning districts I know we did a great work with car washes and that's probably not necessary there but for all the other uses just looking at whether or not those are in the right zoning district for today's time uh the second one uh I'm you know increasingly concerned about um our City's city employees um being able to afford living in Fort Worth um and so I want to look at um well let me go back also we know through the Alice report and studies and reports that basic costs are outpacing wages I andan Alice provides a report for an ALICE wage and a stability wage and I would like to um for HR maybe with the lab um to look at um what the compression cost would be to fix compression or adjust compression uh throughout the system for an increase of $21.7 an hour and $25.95 an hour that's the Alice wage and the stability wage here for Taran County Council Hill mayor can I add something to Jared respectively you may want to check with Mary Margaret because when she gave a presentation recently she talked about their policy on how they pay their people I forget the dollars but whatever it was it was just real impressive to my board of directors and so might want to check with her Janette did you have anything yeah I just wanted clarification councilman lar dorf are you asking for uh new uh diversity I mean disparity study no I the last thing you'll ever hear me as for is another study um that seems to be the yeah that seems to be the going requirement though um so no it's we determine with the better known small business side rather than going the um because the the business Enterprise it' be its own separate uh category so you know the minority owned businesses they would still qualify for their um contract set asides and VBS and service disabled better known small businesses would qualify for their own as well um if there's enough of them in the workplace um but letting staff kind of handle the the Reigns on that but there from what I understood there was going to be a study done on if there was a disparity there so yeah certain hope we don't actually need one but i' Aver to our leader if we don't capture that I'd like to request uh a disparity stud just because I feel like the data is um you know uh very old and we needed some new numbers just with the you know just our different um population growths and so I I think that should be in there as well Jared sorry I didn't put a timing on the second one can I get that also in 30 days and staff I know that's a lot to ask but I want to make sure we're prepared for Budget season to make decisions if that's too much come back and talk to me um the last thing on that um we do a really great great job around budget season about like um um scale factors with budget so for for instance I know one penny equals $12 million in last budget cycle that would be really helpful in this conversation perfect anybody else no two quick things for me one Chris brought up the bond affordable housing I think they're going to cover that briefly in the homelessness Workshop but we'll just make sure staff does include that so we cover that potential topic two is apparently how Jay's water got caught off today I wasn't on wbap but I heard about it and I I've heard this happening to some customers that didn't make the switch on the new system and someone like their family who's never missed a water bill they just get cut off they get the notice they miss it I want to dig into that a little bit make sure that's not a prolific problem maybe a one-off on a few customers if the water department could just let me know what that looks like or what our process is for long-standing customers to get a little bit of a grace period that feels a little weird to me um and then I'm curious on the car wash issue I just want to know in a simple hour how many car washes have gone up in the last three years in the city of Fort Worth because what's that yes they're everywhere but the the because you know we back and for the distinction the self-service versus the like the quick wash whatever fully automated car wash is what I'm most concerned about I think we're going to be covered in car washes if we're not careful if we're not already um and then someone was talking about pgo who was it okay so maybe it would be helpful and Lauren may want to kill me for this she's still in audience I think but I'm curious they've done an excellent job capturing the state of our roads and understanding um where improvements are needed to walk through that that publicly District by District it won't be by Street by Street just kind of how to understand where we are because I think it could also lend its conversation about maybe increasing pigo which I know David probably would love um but there's there's a there's a te there's a scenario where that's not possible just based on revenues or what are things we'd have to give up um but we've made great progress thanks to tpw but I'm I do know we've got areas of the city that need major improvements just with streets that's just one particular area so okay that's all I've got yes ma'am and I think Carlo overlooked it AIT of just the presentation was lovely and so was the video but I did want to give a shout out to the Fort wor Sports commission and visit Fort Worth they worked so hard to get FIFA here the bid process I was behind the scenes and the sports commission and they did not get recognized at all and I just it was a travesty it really was and I know the city of Fort worked worked really hard Sports commission and visit and I just wanted to I know they're not here today but I think it's important we recognize them in some way very well said Macy yes we're going to have to have our own for worth World Cup strategy I think cuz Dallas doesn't care # don't care okay very well with that meeting adjourned thank you yeah Dallas don't care