3/16/21 - City Council Budget Workshop

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um dig the email now good okay represented welcome to facilities i get i get this check one two check check okay thanks there's one thing i have to show hmm fingers yesterday into an official survey spin right well and they weren't willing to certify whatever spot they had to find good morning and welcome to the glendale city council budget works shop session of march 16 2021. the meeting is called to order i will now conduct an attendance roll call please signify by saying president councilmember al dahmer council member clark here council member malinar president council member tom and chop president council member turner the chair is here and mayor wires is excused ms bowers will you please introduce item one fiscal year 2122 budget workshop good morning vice mayor members of the council at this time our staff presentation will be led by the trio of our assistant city manager vicki rios budget and finance director lizette camacho and our budget director our budget manager amy lindsey good morning vice mayor members of the council today is our fourth budget workshop on capital improvement plan for today's presentation we'll cover capital projects funded by the landfill solid waste water and wastewater funds at the end of the presentation we'll open it up for council feedback and questions our next budget workshop on capital improvement plan will be on march 30th and that will be our fifth budget workshop you've seen this slide before this is the pie chart on the cip by funding source as you can see the largest component is the enterprise funds which we'll be covering today the total draft 10-year cip is about 1.3 billion and this slide is the same slide that you saw before pulled out is the enterprise funds which we'll cover today this slide is the various funding sources for the capital improvement plan and with that i'll turn it over to michelle boytenko to cover the landfill capital improvement projects thank you mr macho so today the landfill cip projects by funding source everything in the landfill is actually funded by user revenues for the landfill so even though we talk about bond funding some of the projects they are the bond debt is paid off by the actual landfill user fees we have reorganized the project somewhat to make it a little bit more logical and so i do want to direct your attention to the second column that you will see on this slide we've actually included a page number for your reference to make it easy for you to go from the summary slide to the detail in your cip book so this is the first of two slides on landfill projects this slide essentially is the projects that are our programmatic replacement of equipment and associated smaller equipment needs for the landfill the first project is landfill compactor replacement we have two compactors at the landfill these are used daily for the placement and compaction of solid waste and maximize compaction they improve the safety manage the airspace and are required to comply with environmental requirements as i said we have two and we look at these on a five-year cycle to be rebuilt or replaced so five years or ten thousand hours the one we are recommending in fy22 for replacement actually has 15 years and 30 000 hours we've been able to do that by doing a certified rebuild on it every every five years so we've been really maximizing the life of that in fy 26 we have another one scheduled for replacement and fy 27 just essentially continues that program so each of these uh projects that you see on this page are essentially done that way uh with the programmatic replacement in uh the bulldozers we actually have three bulldozers and again we have a project for rebuilder replacement in fy 22 another one in 23 and one in the outer five years the landfill motor grader again that's used daily at the landfill these are not permanent roads the roads change every day with the additional solid waste that comes in and the fill placement and so we do grade the roads every day to maintain dust control to comply with environmental regulations we have our motor grader recommended for replacement in fy25 the scraper again we have it recommended for replacement in fy25 uh the scraper we've actually been able to defer a couple years with our north cell construction the construction company doing the excavation has actually provided us with dirt up on top of the south south to use for daily cover so our scraper usage has gone down we've been able to defer its replacement the landfill 4x4 truck replacements again replaces the nine 4x4 trucks as well as the mechanic service truck that we have at the landfill these are not part of the vehicle replacement fund these are part of the enterprise funds and replaced out of this cip program the fuel tank replacement the number you see in fy 22 is actually carryover money so that will will disappear in the final cip book as that has been completed and will not be required but we do have a fuel tanker so instead of taking the big equipment down to the fuel tank we actually take the fuel tank up to the equipment to save time on the equipment as well as wear and tear on the roads our solid waste inspector trucks again in fy 22 we have a little bit of carryover but we are replacing the inspection trucks and as the inspectors are required to maintain landfill compliance they're funded out of this fund the water poll slash trucks we have two pieces of equipment there in fy 22 you're seeing a carryover uh the three thousand dollars will go away as that vehicle is in in is final and we have another one scheduled for replacement in the last five years water is required daily on the roads as well as on the fill the garbage being placed to maintain compliance with requirements the auxiliary equipment includes items such as light towers air compressors the small loaders to move our refrigerators and other equipment as well as a lube trailer one thing we are doing in fy22 is we are doing some security in other cameras and this is going to be an enhancement for our residents so you will be able to see we'll have a camera facing the lines you'll be able to get on the website and look and see how long is the line and so part of our fy 22 recommended request includes adding those cameras so not just for security reasons but also so that we residents can see how long is the line before they actually go to the landfill the the next page vice mayor sure councilmember aldona thank you vice mayor uh mr otenko just a question for example i don't know if you would have it off top of your head but for example the landfill 4x4 replacement truck for fiscal year 22 39 000 you said that those are on a most of these are on a five-year replacement plan do you know what it cost the department to maintain and preventively maintain those vehicles so and in essence what does that 39 thousand dollar truck end up costing us through maintenance do you know what that is uh vice mayor council members i don't have those in for that information with me we could get back to you with that i do know sorry the compactors are placed on a five-year cycle or looked at a five-year cycle our trucks are on an eight to ten year cycle uh but i will get back to you on the cost of maintenance for that those equipment yeah if you could i would be interested in that and then lastly any of those repairs and prevent a maintenance to any of those vehicles does that come out of the general fund uh vice mayor and council members call my royal odama all the operating and maintenance costs for landfill equipment is paid for by the landfill fund thank you thank you vice mayor you're welcome councilman thomas thank you thank you vice mayor i'm just one i'm a little bit confused because in the in our binders it shows for example on the auxiliary equipment it shows 173 712 dollars as a carryover and fiscal year 2022-0 but on the slides it shows fiscal year 2022 107 that shows that dollar amount in fiscal year 22 so i just want to understand why i'm looking at two different things here vice mayor members of the council the fiscal year 22 column that you're seeing on this slide is the total of the carryover and the fiscal year 22 budget that you'll see in your in your binder so because there's no budget in the 22 in so the total will be the 173 712. okay so just just so i understand so anything that had a zero for fiscal year 2022 and the binder is now showing a dollar amount in fiscal year 22. vice mayor members of the council the appropriation for the fiscal year 22 will include a carryover because it will be spent in fiscal year 22. okay it might be easier if the if things were the same though rather than a binder and then in the slides i just was confused as i was looking at it why the difference so thank you the final project on this slide is replacement of our gps system equipment the gps is in the large equipment the compactors the dozers to ensure that we are placing the waste and compacting it as efficiently as possible this next page of projects is more our construction projects this is not the programmatic replacement of equipment this is rather the requirements of operating a landfill the first project there landfill closure south this is our current operating area and this is ongoing projects that happen every year and this is related to our slope stability to make sure our slopes are always in good condition and erosion control the landfill phase construction north is actually the new cell that we are currently developing this is for further development of the north cell the number you see in fy 22 is carryover and in fy uh 23 and beyond is actually for the next phase of excavation what we want to do is like we did in the last one give ourselves several years to do that construction to make sure we get the best price for the excavation the next project is the north cell liner the liner is a protective barrier to prevent movement of any fluids outside of the landfill and this is required by our permit this project is currently out for bid now we'll remain out for bid to make sure we get a great pricing on that i do have here with me just you understand why it is so expensive to do the liner this is the actual what they call the liner itself but it's a composite so we put this liner with a series of mats and dirt with it to protect it and these are set up such that if liquid ever touches them they've got a swelling clay within them that will self-seal it so the the liner's essentially five layers of this type material and i'll leave this up in case anybody does want to come see it the next project we have is for site pavings and markings we did add some new roads several years ago when the scale house was relocated and this funding in fy25 is is a micro seal is recommended by our transportation departments on the same cycle that we would recommend our public streets for and it's to keep these these roads in good condition the scale house pedestrian landing is to mitigate a safety concern at the landfill scale house if you've ever been to the the scale house when you're up on the scale it's very narrow and this is to provide a landing such that if you have to get out of your vehicle there's a safe place for you to interact with the cashiers at the scale house this is actually what you see there is carryover funding we anticipate this to be completely spent and completed this fiscal year next project is for our murph process line improvements the material recovery facility which i abbreviate into the term murph has been operating since 2000 it is in the need of some repairs and enhancement the funding we put in for is recommended for next year is for immediate drum and what this will do is provide a much steadier stream of of material to be sorted and allow us to sort it more efficiently and then in fy 23 we're looking at optical sorter for plastics plastics have dramatically changed since the facility was built in 2000 and will give us a better capture rate for the plastics vice mayor yes councilmember tom thank you i so these um capital projects are based on continuing with service as is because i know in may of 2019 we were we gave direction um and i uh to do surveys and talk to our residents and we're going to have a conversation about recycling and other services so these these are based on continuing doing things exactly like we are we haven't had we haven't seen the results of that survey or had a workshop or had that brought back to us so yeah vice mayor collins members councilman tomlinson uh you are correct uh we plan on coming forward over the next several months with recommendations for our recycling program so this uh process line improvements for the material recovery facility is for uh enhancements with the material but it's essentially keeping the program as is vice mayor are your recommendations going to be to keep the program as is vice vice mayor councilmember thomas i think we're in the middle of uh reviewing that we've had some requests for qualifications from vendors in the valley we also are having a hard look at the current condition of the murph also we're going to present to the council reasonably soon the results of the recycling survey and how we should continue the program henceforth so these i would call these placeholders i wouldn't say that we're doing these right now uh it's very dynamic right now and i think in the next three four months we'll be working with city council and figuring all this out and having a solid game plan for the future okay thank you our next project is for closed landfills this project would fund ongoing repairs and maintenance needed including graded grading drainage fencing and landscaping in the primary landfill that we take care of there is at 103rd avenue in northern 103rd avenue in all of sorry the next project is landfill gas extraction system as solid waste continues to be placed at the landfill we are required to control the methane gas and this system adds all those collectors into it to collect and maintain the gas as required by our permit the next project is for storm water controls this is required we are required to manage all drain rain water that enters our property and this is for the berms culverts drains and channels needed to do such the final project that we have under landfill is the northern avenue improvements this is carryover this will all be spent this year this was for the extension of the block wall and relocation of cacti when council member clark sorry thank you uh i i'm going to let council member turner go first he was even sooner thank you um the landfill gas extraction system um are we capturing that gas and putting it to productive use or are we just flaring it off or what do we do with that vice mayor and councilmember scott's member turner today we are flaring that gas that is another project we hope to update council on later this year vice mayor with regard to the last couple of items that you referred to um storm water controls and the gas extraction system we already have those systems in place so i assume these are enhancements to the existence system and what are we doing to enhance both of those systems vice mayor and council members council member clark for just a little bit of context you have to remember that the landfill changes every day every every day when we add more waste to it we change the footprint of the landfill slightly and so with the landfill gas extraction system every time we go up we go up in about 15 foot lifts and then compact it and add some dirt every time we get 30 feet we found that that's the optimal space we actually lay another uh pipe and collect it then so it's a series of it's a network of piping that goes into the extraction system so every so many tons of trash that we receive we then add to the landfill gas extraction system be it a vertical well horizontal collectors that type thing and the same happens with the storm water controls every time we go up so high we have to extend that channel or those berms and ditches up to that next level of the landfill so it's an ongoing project then i have a follow-up question if they are ongoing projects why under the um no you do have money for both why is under storm water controls are we spending over a million dollars this year and then it drops off to 300 000. are we adding some something new to the system that will be extended over the next several years vice mayor council members and councilmember clark so we understand water controls you see we have approximately 300 000 every year with the exception of two years fy22 we have in their carryover so what wasn't already spent this fiscal year is shown as potentially being carried forward into next year and then we added some funding as glendale avenue is being widened the landfill has to do its requirements to make sure that we can manage that stormwater as well and fy26 um the the same thing at that point there we will be so far into the north cell that we will also have to manage uh some storm water associated with that so there are there are ongoing projects and then there are very specific projects associated with it thank you so that that's all the landfill projects and if there's no other questions on the landfill we'll move on yes one final question and i will be asking this with regard to all the enterprise funds so be forewarned is the current proposed series of projects for the landfill in any way dependent upon a rate increase is that required to meet the dollar needs for fiscal year 22 and 23. vice mayor council members council member clark there were certain projects that we presented in may of 2019 that we requested council approval to bond fund for we have projects identified the phase construction north in the liner that we want to bond for in fy 22 we currently have those programmed in the current rate structure we will have to then look at future projects to determine how those are funded if not the bond funding approval all right so let me see if i understand what you just said you issue bonds those bonds are paid back from right ratepayers currently the bonds that you have issued are can be sufficiently paid back with the current rate structure that was approved back in 2019 or 2020 whenever it was the last time we looked at the rates for the enterprise funds do i have that part correct vice mayor councilmembers councilmember clark that is correct okay so what i'm hearing you say is that when we get in fiscal year 23 and beyond and you want to continue issuing bonds for the proposed projects in those years you're going to have to figure out if the current rate payer structure can cover them or the only other option is to come to us and ask for an increase in the rate pay or structure yes or no vice mayor council members constable clark i think the quick answer is yes we look at our rates and our rate structure on an annual basis fy 22 is covered but fy 23 and beyond we need to look at and we look at that annually so then my last follow-up question will be is for fy23 and beyond are those considered to be essential projects that must be done or are they projects that it in layman's terms it would be to be nice if we had x y and z essential or nice to have vice mayor council members council member clark most of these projects are considered essential as are required by our operating permit in compliance with other required regulations we look at other things like the equipment trucks on an annual basis to determine what we need and what can be deferred what i'm presenting to you fy 23 through 26 is our best estimate today but we look at those annually and you may see next year at this time we've moved some equipment around as we've deemed it non-essential in that year and able to be deferred so we will look at that on an ongoing basis and the reason i'm going to be asking this of every enterprise fund is that rates continue to to climb and and i understand that a certain amount of rate increase may be necessary but i i think it's time to provide some relief to our ratepayers they've had four years of steady increase each year it's gone up by x percent and i so i i will look very carefully at the proposed rate increases and unless a very solid case can be made as to why they they should be approved i'm not going to be supporting rate increases thank you vice mayor welcome councilman valdon to that point um for the average citizen when they look at this this page here they have no clue or no idea that some of these projects are dependent on a rate increase uh or we don't know let alone the uh the citizens so it would be beneficial if we knew at least myself that which of these projects are dependent on a rate increase otherwise we're looking at thinking well we've got we've got dollars for those in those years so how can that happen so there would be a separate page or on the same page that would list dependent on rate increases i think people need to know that i'm glad that the councilman brought that up otherwise we're looking at that thinking yeah there's probably funds in there anybody can answer that vice mayor i would add an addendum to that request and that ask that projects that are federally mandated to meet either state county or federal requirements receive an asterisk or something that is an identifier that we don't have to go searching through other pages for that tells us that this is a mandate that came from some other agency that we must comply with so not only would i like to to know what council member aldama asked for i'd like to know which projects are mandated and there's nothing we can do about them thank you mr vice mayor members of the council so again we're kind of jumping ahead to the rate issue this is kind of designed to at least put in in perspective a 10-year plan on the capital side we'll certainly be getting into more discussion remember that um i mean just as as a as fodder for this we went a number of years without any rate increase and so there's been a certain amount of rate catch up on that and remember that we continue to pay our employees more our health care costs go up our operating costs go up and so there is going to be naturally within an enterprise fund there naturally will be some rate increases we're we're moving ahead and we'll be having those discussions i think the when we look forward into uh funding the cip and you're going to hear this i believe both on the water side you'll learn this on the water side as well as the solid waste and landfill is we believe we can manage the cip as presented here and do it within basically within inflationary rate increases so in other words if we just kind of project what we believe inflation will be over the course of the next number of years it's likely that the rate increases to support the cip and the operations will stay somewhere within very close range to normal cip or excuse me inflation and so but to say that you know can we absorb uh increasing costs without rate increases is probably uh you know is not realistic um from you know from an operational perspective the final thing just to remind you that as we when we do get in in the next few months into the rate increases i would encourage you to continue to focus less on the percentage of increase and look at how our rates compare for the service as compared to our other jurisdiction that'll be a good benchmark for us to be able to see our you know are we you know are we inefficient in our operations or are we very competitive uh within that area and so again we feel really good about our enterprise funds and and how they're managed um and i think when we get a chance to dive further into the rate increases you will see that but again to answer kind of the broader question we believe that we will that most of the rate increases that we'll be proposing in general there are some exceptions should be able to stay somewhere within the influence inflammation any department but i just would like to let all departments know that we do watch and more importantly our residents watch and we want to make sure that all the way down to the down to the lift gate on a pickup truck we do care thank you vice mayor and council members moving on now to our solid waste projects again the funding source all solid waste projects are funded through the solid waste enterprise fund the projects you see on this next page [Music] the first one is our solid waste process improvement software we've been piloting a system recently um to create dynamic routing to move us off actual paper routes um to give us actually computerized routing to be able to route more efficiently to track and a better reporting system for all aspects of the division this software that we've been piloting actually gives us a feature we call it our community insights so the driver is able to report things such that residents don't have to call in this is like a damaged container anything related to solid waste they can do they also do other things and they've been very effective in reporting things like trees that need to be trimmed missing manhole covers such that we don't wait for a resident to have to report these things and we actually have a report that we send out to other departments on a weekly basis to help out with it that the next six are all programmatic replacement and this is like for like type replacement so we are not adding to our fleet we're not augmenting our fleet this is just a programmatic replacement of existing equipment the this sweepers the 17 000 is a carry forward and that's actually our grant match we were successful in getting a grant from maricopa association of governments for replacement of a street sweeper um and that should be spent this year but but the next you know fy 24 through 31 are also just the replacement of a street sweeper and we will continue to seek grant opportunities so we hope those numbers to um drop to like you know 15 to 20 000 years as part of our grant match on those uh the roll off truck replacement nice mayor councilmember i just had a question about the replacement the sweepers i know in the past we've had questions about getting our street sweeping back up to what it once was which is every month after a bulk pickup how close are we to getting there uh and what would it take uh i know you had presented some some numbers previously that it was going to take so many dollars to add that additional sweeper do we have that in kind of our thinking that we might do that or is that just not within the plans at all vice mayor council members council member malnar that was a council request last year we followed up with a memo and because that would be changing our level of service or adding to it that would be considered a budget supplemental and you'll be seeing that in april oh you are included in in a budget supplement thank you i'm so our our roll-off is the replacement councilmember thomas i'm sorry so um i have a question uh do we have enough equipment to increase the level of service on street sweepers marriage council remember tom will chop [Music] i i can't remember the exact memo i don't have that information with me but i'll be happy to answer that question in april when we bring the supplemental forward okay thank you our next project is roll-off trucks we currently have three roll-off trucks operating they are on an eight-year cycle we have one scheduled for replacement in fy22 our front load commercial trucks we have seven front load trucks currently and one container delivery truck they are on a six-year cycle we have one each in fy 22 23 24 25. our side loads we currently have 26 these are the trucks that pick up our residential refuse and recycling um there are 26 of them currently they are in a six year cycle so we review them every you know we anticipate them being replaced on a six-year cycle but again we review them to determine if they have to be replaced or can be deferred we have seven shown there in fy 22 some are carry forward and some are part of our ketchup and then we get into our regular replacement uh six three four four four so we're on back on a regular replacement cycle with those trucks our bulk trash um the next line we have 15 rear load trucks and eight tractors this is the crew that picks up the monthly bulk track trashmar residents again these aren't a programmatic replacement so in fy 22 we have two rear loaders in 23 four rear loaders one tractor 24 two rear loaders one tractor and this again is just replacement of our existing fleet the next one is replace pickup trucks and these are our service trucks uh foreman trucks crew trucks there are 10 trucks in solid waste we have fn fy 22 3 program 20 sorry in 22 we have three 23 we have one and 26 we have one uh the final project you see there is alligating approximately 7 000 is carryover money we have a 100 000 per year for the next three years this is continuation of our program to reduce illegal dumping in alleys uh we will evaluate this program and fy23 with recommendations for continuing or to determine where we are with with alley closures at that point in time vice mayor councilmember clark as that concludes your presentation on solid waste i will ask the same question in fact i shouldn't have to repeat it i'm sure you remember what i asked does the proposed fy 22 budget um can it be satisfied with the current rate structure and again are you postulating fy 23 and beyond based upon an increase in rate structure vice mayor of council members councilmember clark do as as mr phelps explained you we are experiencing you know the the ongoing cost of inflation increases and solid waste well not a capital um item uh you over the past year has an increase as has experienced a dramatic increase in the amount of service that our residents have requested so our monthly bulk trash has gone on as scheduled but if you look at the tonnage that we've picked up through the pandemic uh through even weekly uh refuse collection or monthly bulk trash collection it has gone up substantially so uh you know it's i'm not sure if it's a capital requirement but our solid waste uh to continue with our services as scheduled uh we do need to look very hard at our rate structure so that's basically a yes fy22 is okay but fy23 and beyond will require looking at the rate structure and recommending some kind of increase to meet future needs mayor council member that's correct thank you vice mayor councilmember thomas thank you um is that going to include tipping fees uh vice mayor and council members councilmember thomasoff i believe we have to look at all the fees including the the tipping fees what our residents pay through the saw waste services at the landfill needs to be part of that evaluation as well all right thank you and and then that does conclude the presentation if there's any questions on specific projects we can answer that otherwise we can move forward thanks mayor members of the council the next set of projects will be covered by mr johnson on the water and wastewater capital improvement plan um vice mayor yes councilmember before mr johnson begins this would be a question for budget and finance on the uh sheets of changes that you gave us for in this case it's water i believe [Music] yeah for water cp cipwa 19085 and cipwa 21032 both of those projects were removed one is valued at 43 million and the other is 17 million as we go through this your presentation where did that money go was it reallocated to other projects new projects i would appreciate knowing what happened to the money thank you mayor of vice mayor members of the council will you give me just a moment yeah and and you need to confer with mr johnson yes and when you get to wastewater i have identified one other project uh cip w w 211 it's a sewer project the 99th avenue interceptor valued at 5.9 million um as it was moved to another project and when we get there i'd like an explanation of what happened and how that occurred thank you just for warns that you know that that i'd like explanations for those vice mayor councilmember clark members of the council do you mind repeating the project numbers oh my goodness okay hold on uh in wastewater it was cipw 211 99th avenue interceptor for 5.9 million underwater there were two projects cipwa 19085 and that would be the loop 101 water treatment plant valued at 43 million project removed and then the other was cipwa 21032 the zone 3 transit line valued at 17.8 million and and i'm just curious where did the money go was it assigned to new projects or other projects what happened to that looks like close to 60 million dollars vice mayor members of the council mr johnson and his staff will explain that as they go through the projects very good that's that's what i wanted to know thank you good morning vice mayor members of council i want to thank you for hearing our cip presentation for today i've got some presenters here with me today first of all i got my program's financial program manager here dan hatch and he's just going to help me get through some of these numbers with these questions and i think he'll be of great help to me i have john henney who is our systems infrastructure he will be briefing on the infrastructure the pipes implant and the plants will be briefed by ron cerio so let me get started here first i'd like to make a couple of opening comments we can go to that okay good you've got this light up one marion council i wanted to let you know that this organization is a 24 7 365 organization we've had several conversations over the years about that and i know you're well aware of the of our responsibilities to have to provide uh service to our customers every minute every day you turn on the tap where you flush your toilet you want to make sure that everything works the way it's supposed to one of the primary uh functions of the cip is to help us with the needs to perform support the needs that we have to maintain our continuous service one of the key things here is our assured water supply the city of glendale is sitting in a very good position right now with an assured water supply that encompasses three main areas our colorado river supply our salt river project supply and our groundwater wells also supplemented with the wells is also our reclaimed water that we recharged into the ground for future needs one of the key uh points that i like to make about the water supply is that this is a spurs economic development and we can see from the over the past years here that we've got a lot of confidence in people developing here in the city of glendale one of the key things is do we have the water to supply their needs for instance you've got westgate san haro vision for our new auto dealerships up along birdsley uh and most recently our crystal lagoons project and of course for our city amenities our heroes lake our bonsai bonsal lake swimming pools and splash pads and most importantly fire protection so i want to to talk about those in in that context is that we need that water every minute of every day and we're doing a good job of managing for you also on our managing of the water we have the ability to move the water around the city as needed so that's a very key component of the of the cip on our reclaimed water system we have the ability to pump that water when it's needed for its uh drought or shortages of any sort of any circumstance so i wanted to to make sure that you are aware that we're going to cover that more in detail in a few slides key to the key to all facilities utilities are our redundancy and our resiliency we've had this conversation before in that to be able to provide a constant supply 24 hours a day we have to have the equipment resiliency and our backup equipment to continue to provide that service just one uh just one pump won't do it you have to have backup pumps and everybody here is aware of that but i wanted to remind everybody that resiliency and redundancy is a very key component here for our services i have a good example i'll show you when we get to some slides here to kind of let you see how that how what we're talking about in reference to a picture here also our redundancy and resiliency also provides us our system the flexibility the flexibility to either change the priority of a project if we have something go down on us and we have the ability and that project is there we have the ability and the funding to do it we move forward with taking care of a higher priority project that we weren't aware was going to happen and be able to maintain the resiliency of our system and get that particular component repaired and we've got some examples of that one of the other key things we have to do is we have to meet all of our federal and state regulations you've you've recently heard about the pfoas and the pfosses we're in tune with that we've been tested for that we are in good shape for that but if the right now there's not a regulated level for that but if it becomes regulated then we'll have to make the appropriate adjustments and build the facilities to be able to deal with that chemical that's in the groundwater and one and lastly one of the big things we do here is we have to focus on rehabilitation of our existing infrastructure we're we've got about 1800 miles of pipe under the ground we have several lift stations and pump stations and we have the plants for both water and for wastewater and john and ron will go in more detail about their projects related to those facilities let's go to the next one the uh if we if the rehab doesn't take place or it's not timely uh we could end up having unplanned service disruptions we could increase our repair costs or uh we can get cost escalations due to delayed projects i think in the previous uh presentation we heard about uh cost being uh going up for inflation that sort of thing so the and i can tell you right now that on the projects we have ongoing right now we have uh prices and for construction and materials going up monthly so we're having to stay out in front of that and and uh that's a very important feature for trying to get the projects done in the time frame established because some of the contractors can lock in prices and that very that helps the projects also the cip prepares us for the continuous supply and in also it provides us the operational flexibility to treat the water in multiple multiple ways different plants to provide different efficient services and especially in the case of service disruption we have the ability to move that make adjustments and take care of the service direction without impacting the citizens in the next set of slides now we're going to go over a few of the examples i wanted to show you some of the examples of redundancy and resiliency so this next picture here is with pyramid peak water treatment plant pyramid peak is a we're a partner plant for city of peoria it currently is a 23 percent owner and the city of glendale 77 is currently under an expansion and peoria needed an extra 15 million gallons a day so that that was a 50 million dollar expenditure one of the other key components of this project is process improvements uh to the existing systems it's approximately about 30 million dollars and we wanted to make sure that this plant is it sets up in it's in phoenix up by the colorado canal it treats the colorado river water and it um it takes the water and sends it down into primarily into the upper zones of the city and and when the water treatment plant the center of the city is out of service that this water will flow on down into the central part of the city there is no redundant uh flow for this right now we've been working for two years and we do have a a system starting in place to where we can build uh redundant flow for here so we if we for some reason lose the colorado canal then we have a way to supplement that flow and if we lose the plant we have additional ways to supplement that fluid and i'll go over those in a little bit one of the additional other additional ways we're doing is we're we've been in conversations with the city of phoenix in the city pouring over peoria over the last two years on interconnecting into their systems so i'm we're looking at interconnecting our distribution system with the city of peoria on the west side and the city of phoenix on the east side if in fact we do end up having a uh an impact to water supply uh off the colorado canal or have an issue with the plant we have we'll have these place these igas in place where they can help supply us emergency water to provide our citizens who normally receive this water to have water there instead of not having any water at all we're also yes council member tom and john thank you vice mayor just for the people who are watching and i know mr johnson and i've had this conversation multiple times but what we're mitigating the impact of i believe it's all every resident north of the 101 freeway not having water if there's a if there's a failure or a pyramid peak goes down is that right vice mayor councilmember tom trump that's correct okay thank you vice mayor councilmember clark question um these igas would they be strictly for an emergency situation where glendale loses its capacity to deliver water or would part of the objective be to when we have excess capacity in a non-emergency situation sell water to phoenix or peoria vice mayor councilmember clark the igas for the interconnects will be for emergency flow we also have we also have a current iga with the city of phoenix where we provide them water at a bulk rate from the northeast corner of 51st avenue and the 101. so during our discussions with them we can talk about being able to take more water from them in a bulk status versus emergency but we haven't had that discussion okay thank you in addition to the interconnects in the city we're also planning to do an addition of wells in the uh in the southern area of along 67th avenue and in union hill so we're looking at wells to also supplement that flow the one thing i want to make key here is is that if we lose the plant or if we lose the colorado river we will are planning to have some supplemental flow so we can help the the citizens that normally get the flow from this plant we also have a booster station at 67th and deer valley that we've upgraded and we've done a test on it and we can move water from the chili water treatment plant in the center of the city up to the hillcrest ranch booster station and be able to flow water into our zone under less pressure but to me right now that would be an emergency item that we would have to do manually and i've got projects in here to make that automatic and to make it more robust and resilient let's go to the next one another important project here we just completed uh is our arrowhead reclamation facility one of the key things with the arrowhead plant is it's a what they call an end of the line facility and it does you can't turn it off so this takes all of the flow uh north of skunk creek and and and puts it into the plant and then it the reclaimed water that's generated here goes into the arrowhead lake system or it goes into the ground for recharge so the key thing here is is that you stay in front of this plant and mr syria will talk to you about how he wants to continue with assessments and continue with improvements some examples of our issues that we've had in the past are water lines and sewer line leaks so we can't avoid these because it's going to happen no matter how good you are at in vigil to look at your system and and re and review it but we're going to happen we have that's why we have crews on standby all the time to retake and repair these this one right in the center is a key component in the fact that you want to avoid these large openings because it costs more money impacts more utility companies and it impacts the citizens and could even get into private property and damaged homes so our valving system that you see there's projects in there for replacing large valves and stuff in our cip these are very key because we can get to the valves we can turn the leak water off and make sure that we minimize the amount of damage in our line leaks this picture on the right is an unexpected uh issue that came up to us in the in when we're doing the rehabilitation of the cholla water treatment plant this is a picture of the ridgeline we had to replace the roof so we took the roof off and we saw this ridge pole this red steel that holds the the metal roof on and it had deteriorated to such a point we had to recon get that replaced so you never really know what's what you're going to be facing when you uncover uh some of these components so this just gives you an idea this is kind of the things we face on a day-to-day basis another project uh this is what they call the waste activated sludge line that comes out of arrowhead uh an air in this line is directly tied to uh flow and we take the solids off the plant and we send it to the 91st avenue wastewater treatment plant so with this line being out of operation that basically puts the arrowhead plant down so when we we did an assessment on the line and uh just not shortly after we did the assessment a part of the line broke so we replaced we replaced that and then we ended up doing what they call a slip planning project and council member chalmers office got a chance to see that where we put the uh a pipe inside a pipe so it's it's up and running and it and did a good job of minimum impact to our citizens because we didn't we if we'd have wanted to replace this uh all the way down union hills in 67 it had been an open trench that had been double the cost but we put vaults in in the right of way and we were able to pull the line through which was a very good successful project sewers we have uh we faced these we've got the one on the upper left-hand corner is a an existing uh situation that's under design right now the water still the sewage is still flowing through it but we we're keeping an eye on it and we're having it designed so we can make that repair the upper right hand corner was a collapse that happened in 2017 and and we we repaired that as soon as we uh saw it with no backups and no impacts to our citizens and this one in the center is basically it's a manhole that's been deteriorated on repair and we have a program in the cip for repairing and replacing and rehabilitating our manholes now we've talked about wells a little bit we've got we got wells in the cip that do a couple of things the two wells on the left are drinking water wells that we have uh positioned in throughout the city we've got 13 wells and these are just two to give you an example of what a well site looks like and then the one on the right is what they call a not for recharge well and we have these located at the arrowhead ranch water reclamation facility and at our oasis lake uh so when the when the reach in the wintertime when we can't when the lakes can't take all the effluent water then we recharge it into the ground the funding sources we have outlined for our cip is we have the water fund and the sewer fund then we have uh dif so we have uh dif that supports our water and we have dif that supports the sewer the just as a reminder the dif money does not impact the rates because it's it's separate it's developed through development fees and we don't it doesn't impact our rate structure next just like michelle had indicated before we've we we've got uh we've kind of oriented our slides to for the council's convenience and we've got five different categories uh that we broke these two large uh books of projects into the one you have now has water and has sewer inside there is co-mingled a number of different types of projects so what we did is we broke them into into five categories and we're i'm going to present them separately and make it more clear and we have like type projects in the same category that way it makes it a little easier to follow all right let me kick it off i'm going to present the water resources and other if you also notice in that second column we have the page numbers that correlate with the individual projects behind these list of projects so it makes it easier for council if they have a project they have a question about we have the page numbers located there underground storage facility permits uh we have to permit our underground storage facilities with the state and we've got a hundred thousand dollars set aside in 22 and 23. we're going to do the west area reclamation facility first and then we'll do the offer recharge facility second those are 20 year permits so you don't see this cost coming at us very often but when when what we'll do is we hire consultant to help us because it's a lot of application process and work with the edwr to get these pro permits processed white mountain apache this has been a project that's been ongoing since 2009. some of you are probably more familiar than others basically we have no money funded for 22 or 23 right now the last word we got from them is that the the execution date for possibly having to pay would be in 24 and they may even move it up to 23 but we have some time and that 3.5 million dollars is designated at this particular time as dif money and the follow-on years would be fun to money but if depending on our dif levels we could fund that with dif also storage and recovery wells these are our recharge wells we have a number of wells have been assessed and we have to do some updates and rehabilitations on them so we're planning to do one well every year to maintain the system's resiliency we have four recharge and recovery wells uh and at the arrowhead water reclamation facility we have eight recharge whales both at arrowhead and at the oasis lake water supply redundancy this is the project we were talking about with relation to pyramid peak but it not it not only relies on pyramid peak it also relies on the whole city-wide is that we need to make sure that we have a redundant supply the the most key area right now is in the is in the upper zones but we have to maintain our wells we have to maintain our plant facilities we have to on our rehabilitation processes and contracts we have to make sure that we can meet the requirements and demand of the of these our citizens and our businesses to every minute every day and we have a plan here for this and the uh as i mentioned earlier we we've got we're going to be adding some wells and we're going to be adding the interconnects and we're going to be continuing the upgrade to the hillcrest range booster station shared water supply this is another one of those that it comes up every 15 years so you've heard of me talk about 100 year assured water supply the it's it's going to be that time it's going to come up in 2025 and we're going to have to go through a very uh detailed process to certify the our 100-year assured water supply and this 300 000 is set aside to help have a consultant help us through that process with adwr the integrated water master plan the is a is almost complete will be done in september and this master plan will be very valuable to us because we had them work on our water resources our water quality our water systems master plan waste water system master plan reclaimed water master plan our storm water maintenance master plan and utility evaluation we're going to have a reports back in september and when we get the reports and we're ready we're going to come back to council and we're going to give you a briefing on the outcome and recommendations from the master plan the laboratory equipment is uh is a programmed replacements of the analytical laboratory equipment up there at pyramid peak and it's pretty straightforward we end up having uh an issue uh we we have the equipment outlined for replacement and the lab stays up with that outline and we just present it in cip vehicle replacements been an interesting year on vehicle replacements this year we had two of our large crew trucks go down with uh blown engines that were not replaceable so we had to make a very large investment of about 450 000 to replace those it put a dent in our program replacement of other vehicles but these these are vehicles that go out onto the street every day and fix those leaks that i showed you so it's very important that we get them up and running and so i wanted to we got it we end up those last 10 to 12 years so and the new the new trucks we got don't have to keep running all the time which is going to be very key to the engines water system security this basically this amount of money basically uh we we look at all the water city water services cameras and their equipment and make sure that we keep them tuned up and ready to go and replace as necessary because we do have critical infrastructure requirements here and the cameras uh do our required part of our security requirements groundwater well rehab we now this is the groundwater wells this is not recharged wells these are wells that take water out of the ground and we have 16 wells and we have eight of them with srp the money that you see in here today is for srps moved up one of the wells for a redrill and so the money that's set aside here is to supplement srp we we share 50 50 on the wells that they do for us so we have we have the additional money in there for uh arrowhead will i mean excuse me for the srp will accrual long-term storage credits again that's that's the recharge of cap water um if if we have allocations available at the time we have money we put money in there and then if we have the ability and they have the space then we pay to have it recharged into the ground for us are there any questions on any of these projects councilman mclaren i i will ask the same question i asked of miss wiltanko the fiscal year 2022 apparently are satisfied by the current rate increase the current rates uh fiscal year 23 and beyond the only or a way that that those projects all of those projects may be satisfied we'll be with an anticipated rate increase vice mayor councilmember clark that's correct we're we're good for 22. but uh the last slide here is we're in the process of doing a rate evaluation now and there'll be options put together and we're looking at the options being in close proximity to an inflation rate and we'll be bringing that back to council thank you all right next step will be mr henny and he'll talk about our system infrastructure which is our pipe systems thank you craig good morning vice mayor members of the council so today i'm going to present 27 projects um 13 of them in the wastewater collection area and the other 14 will be in the water distribution area so we'll start off with the wastewater collection area so this first project here glendale avenue sewer this is a sewer relief project we have an existing line in the between 91st avenue and 99th avenue in glendale and this particular project will relieve the existing line it's nearing its capacity so in order to take on additional development and to provide the flow requirements necessary this particular project needs to move forward the first the fy 22 portion of the project includes going underneath glendale avenue and the intersection of 91st avenue and then we have the ability to get that done ahead of the pavement management project for the repavement of glendale avenue and then later on you see in 26 we have earmarked funding for the remainder of that project which will ultimately take it down the 91st avenue alignment the second project is is one of three phases you saw a picture in the beginning of the presentation that mr johnson presented this project is a we currently have a large sewer line that feeds the arrowhead water reclamation facility and phase one of the project will is and and includes in fy 22 and 23 will include the replacement and slip lining of that particular pipe we have a delaminating liner in that pipe and we need to remove the parts that have fallen off and then repair it we're looking at using trenchless technology and so this particular segment will run on union hills drive from about 67th avenue to the plant however the first phase will include approximately 75th avenue to the arrowhead water reclamation facility then phase 2 and 3 will is the next segments of that project in the later years the luke air force base wastewater connection this project is a regional collaboration with luke air force base and it includes a force main which is completed that was put in glendale avenue from 99th avenue out to the luke wastewater treatment plant site the second part of the project and the funding you see in fy 22 is the lift station portion of the project and you'll be seeing that here at council shortly i believe in april and that lift station should be completed by the end of december of 21. this is an iga with luke um and luke will be funding this this project vice mayor remember tom and john thank you i do have a question about the the luke wastewater uh iga do we have an are we gonna amortize this or or it says outside funding or repayment charges over 10 years so we're just going to advertise it and then if they're able to get funding then they can pay it off is that what that means vice mayor councilmember tom trout that's correct after the project is accepted then we'll have a detailed list of the costs then we'll update do an amendment to the iga update the amortization schedule and then they'll start paying okay thank you vice mayor yes council member turner thank you um by outside funding i think one of the hopeful sources was a bill at the state legislature and has it been reintroduced this year and do we know how it's moving vice mayor councilman turner i don't know how that's moving but i do know that there's infrastructure requests coming out now from one of our senators here to do a more cares act for infrastructure so we're working on that also thank you okay moving moving on the 99th avenue interceptor line to council member clark's question this was a duplicate project so the two projects were merged the city of phoenix actually provides the scope of work and schedule for this particular line and then we program that into our budget vice mayor go ahead so what happened to the duplicate money where did it go vice mayor council member clark that funding was removed all together so it wasn't allocated to any other project um vice mayor council member the money that's in two zero zero one one was only carryover of 237 thousand and so that's added to this number of six zero zero three so it's total so there this nothing's been reduced it's just been combined into one number which is six three zero zero three okay i i'm confused um with with regard to um these projects that have been removed what happened to the money that was allocated for the funding source for that where did it go did it it did you all just decide well we won't spend that money at all or did you reallocate it to other projects vice mayor councilmember clark that's a good question the the we carried the um basically the groundwater treatment plant that was a 43 million dollar project in our during our recent uh consultations with our integrated water master plan the consultant made a determination and recommended that we don't build the plant because it's not necessary and they came up with other options for us to supplement that plant at a lot less cost so that basically just drops out of the cip there was no money associated with it was in the out years and uh so that's how we dealt with that project what about the other one um that i had identified let's see if i can find well uh if i'm a john cena i'll go ahead and cover that too vice mayor councilmember clark the we originally two years ago we found out that peoria was going to widen 67th avenue from happy valley down to our northern border i saw an opportunity there and that was prior to our developing our cip and i thought well i another idea that i have to take care of the pyramid peak and the distribution for the citizens in the north part of the city would be to add another transmission main there um that way then we could take the plan offline whenever we needed it but then our our consultant also evaluated that for us and said you you don't really need to spend that 17 million dollars to do that we got the the idea of repositioning some wells or re-drilling some wells up there that'll do the same thing for you and the other key thing they want to do so they changed that project to a an assessment of the main line that comes out of pyramid peak so we can do uh rehabilitation on that main line and then john's got a project in there that he'll talk about that puts manholes in the line so we have access to the line but the key thing to this is is that the water flowing in the line uh has to continue because we can't turn the plant off so it's it's just one of those things that we deal with in our business but i think from an overall fiscal perspective um having a line that's it only goes from happy valley down to the north part of the city that's not connected yet which uh requires on three or four more projects i like the idea that the consultant came up with so we're we're pursuing that so that's the reason that large number for a transmission line went away so but it went away but it was shifted to yes the other alternatives that would produce the same result well make sure hopefully i explain this right but the water that the money we had set aside for that project was reduced to take care of this project that john's going to talk to you about on that and then and that money that money just went away we didn't have a need for it so we just dropped it off we didn't move it to some other place is that correct i stand corrected we did move it to the well project so that's what i thought you had said thank you okay moving on so the next project is the sewer line phase five this particular project is a city-wide sewer line reliability rehabilitation project and the funding for this will provide for 14 areas throughout the city for repair most of it will be trench list repairs and a few of them will be point repairs the next project is our sewer line program so typically what happens is we do an assessment or a study and then we develop a project once a project's been identified and developed then we take the funding out of a program and move it into a project so the sewer line rehab program funding for fy22 will be for phase six sewer line and that will include nine segments city-wide that need to be repaired the next project is the lift station at 67th avenue in the ac dc canal and this project does two things we did an assessment on our lift stations and identified some needs so the first need was to rehabilitate the existing lift station um and upgrade some of the electrical and and pump configurations and then also it increases the capacity of the actual lift station which allows us to take on new development the next project is a lift station rehab program similar to the sewer line rehab program we have funding in 24 and then once the next project is identified and through an assessment and a study then we will come to get back to council and request funding for that particular project the sewer line extension is a developmental impact fee project so it's a diff project and that's funded through diff fees and this is just used to oversize existing lines or extend a sewer line that's in alignment with the new development so it would be the city's portion of the project the next project is a city-wide manhole rehabilitation project you saw a picture of a deteriorated manhole and so we're constantly assessing our system we have over 700 miles in the sewer system so we're constantly assessing the system and so and we continuously are rehabbing our manholes to avoid collapsing and failure and then the next project is a wastewater collection improvement this particular project is for air relief valves on force mains and to take care of some of the infrastructure associated with force mains our lift stations and other miscellaneous wastewater collection projects like instrumentation or odor control systems and before i move on if there's any questions i can vice mayor councilmember turner uh just a question on the sewer line extension notes here say that it's east of 115th avenue which makes sense because we're not handling anything west of 115th but uh where would this this project or projects be in a north-south correlation whereabouts east of vice mayor council member that particular funding is going to assist with some sleeves that we need to put out and vision for thank you okay we'll move on to the water distribution projects okay so the first project is a water line rehabilitation again this is a program that we identify projects um through our assessments and our studies and then we'll move the funding once we identify the um the project so the fy2 funding will be for the next project that uh that we've identified which ultimately is going to be in the vicinity of from 55th avenue to 59th avenue and then from approximately paul mayer um to fryer council member tom mancha thank you vice mayor um if you can i'm sorry to ask you to back up to the sewer line extension this is more infrastructure surrounding the ballpark boulevard development area what's the funding source and is this going to be recaptured when the development occurs so that the that the developers pay the pay people pay the rate payers back for this infrastructure vice mayor council member thomas jeff so the funding source is through developmental impact fees thank you does anyone know the answer to the second question there's no development there are no development impact fees for vision four yet are there the development impact fees for somewhere else vice mayor members of council councilmember tomlinshop well there's no projects under development primarily in division four but when those projects come online they'll be paying the diff fees all right thank you vice mayor councilmember just so i can be clear the project will be paid for out of gift funds that have been accumulated to date but then that pool will be replenished when development occurs in project in division four vice mayor council member that's correct okay so the next water line project we refer to it as package two we did package one which is along the ocotillo alignment from about grand avenue to 51st avenue so this next project will be um there's multiple areas within the project but ultimately it's roughly 50 grand avenue in maryland to 51st avenue there's some segments on 54th avenue as well as northern so we'll be starting that project at the end of the fy 22 fiscal year next project is the 67th avenue transmission line improvement so thank you craig for clarifying the question for councilmember clark so the this funding here is to do exactly what mr johnson had referred to and that is to put manholes over access points along that transmission line and that will help us um to be able to launch technology into that line and assess the actual condition of that pipeline and you'll see a an assessment project further down the list the next project is the water line on bethlehem home road 43rd to 51st avenue this is fy 22 money is for design or working with transportation and and working with them to stay ahead of the pavement management program so that we can replace infrastructure prior to new pavement so this particular project really the intersection of 51st avenue to about 47th avenue on bethlehem home road is going to be the first segment and but the funding for this overall ultimately will be from 43rd avenue to bethany home road the next project again working with transportation on the pavement management program this project on 59th it's a water line project on 59th avenue from glen to northern we did not allocate any funding in fy 22 and there is funding allocated for 23 and 24 so that will begin the design of that water line the next project is water line from on camelback from 51st to 59th avenue and this project was is moved to the out years the next project is the water line extension account similar to the sewer line extension account this is a diff funded project so this money is again is used for either extending or upsizing water lines where a developer wouldn't be responsible to do that and currently we have zero funding allocated for fy22 the next project is the large water valves we have over 25 000 valves throughout the distribution system the good news is we at any given time we only have about 1.5 percent of our valves out of service but in order to stay ahead of that we're constantly replacing water valves and the funding for this is it's a citywide project and we're replacing valves throughout the city on a regular basis currently we have approximately 336 valves out of service the next project is a a new project again associated with the pavement management program we've identified valving that has less than five years of its useful life or is currently out of service and this project replaces again valves in those arterial segments that are programmed into the pavement management program the next project is a meter volt replacement project this has been an ongoing project this replaces um large meter volts we have currently 200 um 200 plus large meters and this particular project replaces the volt so that we can have a a safe working environment and the adequate space to maintain the infrastructure within the volt currently in the fy 22 we have 20 meter volts city-wide that will be replaced as part of the 22 project the distribution improvement zones 2 and 3 project this is the hillcrest ranch booster station this particular booster station gives us the ability to move water from off project srp up into our zone three which is colorado river water as craig mentioned there are some things we do need to continue to do there's some electrical upgrades there instrumentation and other things pumps that need to be done to make sure that this booster station works when we need it the next project is the distribution system improvements and this particular project is for replacing large pressure reducing valves throughout the city we currently have we have nine large pressure reducing valves this project will replace four and rehab four of the pressure reducing valves and again this would be citywide this next project is the transmission line valve assessment this is similar to the reason why we need to get manholes over the access ways on the transmission line out of the pyramid peak water treatment plant and this program this funding will provide funding to assess that particular line using robotics and then the last project there is the thunderbird reservoir improvements in 2015 and 16 we did a liner project the liner was leaking during that project we identified some additional needs of the reservoir one of them being the roof so we've programmed money in the latter years to facilitate the necessary repairs on that reservoir with that i'll be happy to take any questions thank you very much vice mayor council the next step is ron serio and he'll talk about all of our plant structures thanks craig good morning um what i'd like to do is just give an overall where we're at with respect to as everybody knows when we went through the economic downturn we we deferred a lot of maintenance on the plants for many years so what we've been doing the last four years and hopefully we'll be done very soon here is we accumulated a whole bunch of things that we were having issues with at those plants and we made those a capital improvement project so i'm calling them ketchup projects so we have this whole list of things that we're catching up to get the plants up to par where they need to be and then our plan moving forward in the future is to do an assessment of each plant every five years that will allow us to plan our capital improvements to the plants better it'll give us you know what the likelihood of failure is what the consequences of failure are and allow us to flatten the curve and not have these big expenses that we're currently experiencing with respect to west area the first project on the list we just started that that's the last plant that we started ketchup construction on that just started this year and we have funding for the next three years moving forward because we phased the repairs that we're doing out there after that the next item is west area that's the future assessment as we move forward after that is arrowhead and arrowhead was the first one that we did our ketchup project for and that started in 2017 and we're nearly done so we expect that to be completed this summer and the funding here is just to finish that project and then we'll we'll move into the stage of assessing it and planning repairs as necessary 91st avenue as craig mentioned that is a partnership plant with five other cities and they're doing similar things that we are they they went through phoenix did and assessed the entire plant and determined it was more cost effective to to fix the existing plant than to replace treatment trains because there was some thought about doing that so this funding is our proportional share um to make those repairs and since it's such a large plant these are going to continue for about 10 or 12 years the these fees wastewater capital equipment we budget for that every year and that is to replace capital equipment that just fails during the year and and that does happen so we do need to have some money to fix things as they as they break and that's it for the reclamation facilities unless there's any questions on that if not i'll move on to the water plants okay water plants again is the same story we have ketchup projects and then future assessments pyramid peak as craig mentioned is a partnership plant where glendale owns and operates it and peoria is paying their proportional share for the improvements that are being done there those will be done next fiscal year and also the expansion which is a 15 million gallon a day expansion that's being funded 100 percent by peoria so that'll be completed next year as well for the outgoing assessments you'll see there's money in 22 and 23 and the reason for that is when we did our ketchup project there were things that we couldn't afford to do we were limited by our budget so we took the lowest priority items and moved those out and we plan on fixing them in the next few years and that's happened at a couple of facilities where we couldn't get everything into the ketchup project because of our funding availability troya project is similar we've been working on that a while next fiscal year we're going to finish the big part of the ketchup items but again there are some trailing things and because that's our oldest treatment plant we want that to be the first one that we do a full assessment on so that we can better plan how we move forward with those repairs and finally from a plant perspective the oasis plant that is our newest plant so we've we've not had to spend much money there so so we we are doing some things what we have in here is some regulatory things like their small tears and aligners and things that we have to fix from a regulatory perspective we're doing that and then moving forward we had some things that we identified like our chlorine system we generate chlorine on site that system is not working right so we're having to replace that moving on to the scada study scada is an acronym and it means supervisory control and data acquisition and essentially what that is it's an industrial computer system that operates our plant there's instruments throughout the plant that feed a bunch of data to this computer and then it makes decisions in terms of when it turns pumps on when it opens or closes valves it essentially operates the plants the good thing about it is it's allowed us to have minimal staffings which saves us operational money i guess the bad thing or the downside is we need for this system to be very reliable because we don't have enough staff to operate the plant manually so what we wanted to do with this study is do a master plan to determine what our standard equipment should be with our scada system because over the years we've had different consultants that have designed different facilities and they've used different equipment if you go to each plant the scada system and the screen looks different at every plant so we need to standardize that stuff and that's what our intent is with this program the asset management program we are about 95 done with implementing our asset management program and it's called lucidity and what we have scheduled for next year is just some post implementations follow-up stuff that we would use some consulting services for which would be some report writing some workflows um some training to get that system started on the right foot and also some integration to other software systems the data management what we're trying to do there is is finding an off-the-shelf software program that's kind of like a data warehouse because we have probably 50 to 100 databases throughout the department the majority of those are in access which is no longer supported by it and we rely on this data for regulatory reporting so our intent is to find something that we can consolidate all these databases that would have some quality control so that we ensure that the data going into it is accurate and also give us better reporting abilities so that we can produce our regulatory reports that we need a lot easier and we're working with it and on that project to make sure they're in a loop and then finally we have the water capital equipment and again just like on the wastewater side this is a fund of money so that as things break throughout the year we have some money to replace smaller capital equipment items and with that i will answer any questions if you have any or if not i'll turn it back over to craig mayor council member clark just one comment i hear repeatedly about how we need new programming new software we're looking for off the shelf for the kind of money that we're spending i to this day i don't understand why we don't hire program writers to write programs specifically to meet our needs and to integrate into existence systems um and and that's not really a question for for you but just generally it would seem to me that in the long run it would be more cost effective and if these programs succeed the way i would expect them to we might be able to sell them to other cities who are in the same boat that we are i i for the life of me i just because when we buy an off-the-shelf program we pay for the licensing fee and then we have to pay them for support for the rest of our lives or as long as we use the program and it just seems to me that it would be more cost effective if in some instances such as this one where we've got 150 different databases i doubt we're going to find a program that's going to integrate 150 databases why we don't just hire programmers to write our own software for proprietary use thank you that's just a comment hey smear er yeah was that you that was me i've been practicing this changed it looks like we're at the end of this one slide to go i'll let you go vice mayor members of council this is our last slide and this is basically enumerates the conversations we had earlier about the rate study so we've got a we've hired a consultant and he's reviewing our financial planning options now we're going to present the rate study results to the citizen utility advisory commission in may and then we we plan to come back to city council after that in may probably the 25th and to get your guidances and have it have a good solid discussion about what the options are and then and then we would be ready to conduct a public outreach program in the june july time frame and then the august item on this last item is is the notice the notice that requires the timely uh submission of the notification of the rate increase for a possible uh rate adjustment to take place in january of next year council do you want you have another question i'll take it now thank you thank you um so a little earlier in this meeting i spoke about the propensity sometimes the public bodies to focus on the small dollars and miss the big dollars and one of the other things we do oftentimes is at least question if not criticize the use of consultants but i do want to acknowledge mr johnson and your staff and said today's presentation that there were a few occasions on which it was mentioned that through the use of consultants you were able to identify some projects that either could be modified or removed completely that are saving many millions of dollars to our residents and ratepayers and i i didn't want that to go unnoticed there's you know there's a lot of money in here that you're projecting to be saved just by you know working smarter and being more innovative and i appreciate that sir thank you any other questions you guys all wrapped up then sir the last slide we have is the budget calendar our next budget workshop is on march 30th we'll cover the um any follow-up items and the draft cip that concludes our presentation thank you no follow-up questions nothing else come before us meetings adjourned right we may have one um i do have a question the but the the calendar shows us getting our materials on friday for a tuesday workshop um oh no that's for the april 6 workshop okay all right thank you anyone else nothing further meetings adjourned you