We looked at the Orpheium's original handdrawn plans. They gave us context of a grand design and an intent to fully immerse the audience. An atmospheric garden oasis was beautifully created in this space surrounded by Spanish medieval Baroque style architecture, murals of mountains and forests under a deep blue dome sky. [Music] It was hailed an architectural and artistic marvel expressing modern theater at its finest. We were inspired to marry today's technology to that original intent. Taking a step forward, we gathered sounds that are true to Arizona. Mixing and layering hours of recordings, achieving realism to surround our audience. The dome sky is further brought to life where advanced lighting and visuals are meticulously synced to captured sounds. Witness dusk till dawn and the expanse of our universe. All this magic to honor the Orpheium's original intent for audiences to lose themselves in this garden oasis and be drawn closer to the performance. These efforts are a nod to the Oreium's history and performances past, present, and future. As stewards of this historic space, we look forward to welcoming you and walking beside you. One step into history, one step into the future. [Music] We all want to get to our destination safely. So, be aware of everything happening around you whenever walking, riding, or rolling along our streets. Most pedestrian and bike crashes happen when drivers are turning. Scan the street for wheels and feet when turning or entering intersections. Wy one or welcome everybody. Welcome to America's friendliest airport, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. What a wonderful day it is to be here as we welcome China Airlines with the first ever non-stop service from Taipei to Phoenix, Arizona. What a great day it is. [Applause] First, we have some very distinguished guests and dignitaries who will be speaking today. I'd like to introduce them, please. Uh, first we have Phoenix City Councilman Kevin Robinson, who happened to be on the flight today. Councilman Robinson, welcome. ROC Taiwan's representative to the United States, Ambassador Alexander Yu is with us. Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in Los Angeles, Director General Amino Chi is with us. Welcome. China Airlines has forged an amazing partnership with one of our largest carriers at Sky Harbor Airport, uh, Southwest Airlines. We're well just excited to welcome Southwest Airlines senior vice president Adam Decair. Thank you for joining us Adam. And we're beyond thrilled to have the chairman of China Airlines, China Airlines Chairman George Cow is with us. Chairman, in addition, we have China Airlines board member Joel Shonne is with us. Joel. and China Airlines senior vice president Jeffrey Shen is with us. Jeffrey. So, thank you all so much for being with us today. I am Chad Makovsky. I'm the aviation director here at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. We've been working on this route for almost a decade now, and we're so happy uh to have this day arrive where we have our first ever non-stop service uh to Taipei, Taiwan. Um, our mayor, Kate Ggo, uh, was able to join the flight and meet the flight at its arrival, but has other duties as she's, uh, leading a council uh, council formal meeting today, so she wasn't able to be with us. But we're very grateful to have Councilman Kevin Robinson here. As I'd mentioned, not only is he going to provide welcoming remarks, but he's going to give you a firsthand account because he actually was on that very first flight from Taipei to Phoenix today. So on behalf of the thousands of people who work here at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport every day, we want to thank you, Councilman, for your steadfast leadership and your willingness to really do what's best for the community and our airport. So please, uh, ladies and gentlemen, uh, allow me to welcome Councilman Kevin Robinson. Councilman, good afternoon, everybody, and thank you very much. Um, you know, Chad mentioned that I had the pleasure, and it was more than just a pleasure. It was an honor to be on that inaugural flight from from Taipei, Taiwan to Phoenix. It is indicative of what I know is a tremendous partnership that is really going to propel this region, the relationship between the two countries. It's um it's just terrific. And as I said, it's an tremendous honor to welcome all of you here today because this is a historic milestone for Phoenix. And it's the first it's our first non-stop flight to Taipei, Taiwan. China Airlines launched the China Airlines's launch of this three times weekly non-stop service to Taipei marks a significant first for Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. This new route is more than just connection between two cities. It's a bridge between two dynamic regions. The economic impact of this year round service is expected to exceed $100 million on an annual basis. That's a testament to the power of global connectivity. Passenger traffic between Phoenix and Taipei has surged by more than 400% since 2019, highlighting the growing demand for this connection. China Airlines's extensive network will provide seamless access to destinations across Asia, making travel more convenient than ever before. Taipei is home to TSMC, the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer, along with a robust ecosystem of supply chain and equipment design companies. This new route arrives at a pivotal time for our region. Our region is experiencing historic levels of foreign direct investment across sectors such as semiconductor, battery manufacturing and biosciences. This flight is not just about tourism. It's about trade innovation and opportunity. It reflects this in the opportunity. It reflects the strength and momentum of the Phoenix market. It's made possible by the collaboration, as Chad mentioned, by the collaboration of some significant partners. Foremost, China Airlines, but also the Phoenix's Office of Economic, Office of Community Economic Development, as well as Greater Phoenix Economic Council and many others. With more than 320 days of sunshine here in Phoenix, Phoenix has long been a premier destination for visitors and Arizona is proud to boast more national parks and monuments than any other state in the nation. So outside of the business aspect of it, the tourism opportunities are terrific. So today we are thrilled to welcome travelers from from the Silicon Island to the Silicon Desert. The future is bright and this is just the beginning. Thank you all for being here. Truly appreciate it. And again, thank you and congratulations to all involved in this what is a historic endeavor. Thank you very much. Thank you for the time. >> Thank you, Councilman. We're so fortunate to have you in a leadership role in our city. Uh, it's now next my honor to introduce our next speaker, ROC Taiwan's representative to the United States, Ambassador Alexander Yu, Ambassador. [Applause] Uh, thank you, Chad, Councilman Robinson, Chairman Gal, George Cow, and senior VP from Southwest Airlines and members of the China Airlines team, as well as my colleague Amino Chi from uh our ALA office and all my colleagues and all the uh distinguished guests who are here. What an happy occasion. Uh, congratulations to Phoenix Sky Harbor, but also to Taiwan's China Airline for making this possible. But my question is what took you so long uh you know the bustling presence from Taiwanese community not only uh for the presence of TSMC in the last few years but also I I've you know from data I I I read there are 30,000 of our e expats living in Arizona. So I think it was only a matter of time that the the transportation nexus will be established. But as the councilman and Chad mentioned, this flight is not only about tourism. It's about forging uh more collaboration uh in our industries, in our technologies, in our exchanges, in education and in all fronts. Uh United States is uh seeking for a renaissance in uh industrialization especially in the high-tech area and Taipei, Taiwan is your best partner in this endeavor. Um, what can I say? I I was when I was waiting for for the passengers to come in, uh, one of the ladies who was with me, uh, she's a Taiwanese teaching at Arizona University in Tucson, and she said, "Well, now I don't have to drive 9 hours to LA to to receive my parents. Yeah, I can just wait here." And and and I said, "Well, maybe your mom misses the the drive from LA to to Arizona." But again, uh it's it's uh simplifies a lot of things for people who are coming from Taiwan to uh Arizona, particularly Phoenix. But this is a two-way street. So Taiwan is your portal to Asia. From what I know, this is not only the first flight between Taiwan and and and Arizona, but it's the the first Asia flight that Sky Harbor is receiving. So this is big news for for you, but also for us. And again uh a lot of prosperity, a lot of good health to all all of you present. You know I'm wearing my lucky red as you've noticed. Uh well uh more more to come and a lot of prosperity and especially uh on the issue of uh AI you know United States is pushing for AI uh dominance AI uh and we'll work together to achieve this packed silica that United States is trying to promote. Thank you very much. [Applause] Thank you so much for being with us, Ambassador. Uh, I'm thrilled to introduce our next speaker with Southwest Airlines senior vice president, Adam Decair. Adam, [Applause] well, thank you and welcome China Airlines. This is a tremendous opportunity to get to speak for the 70,000 uh Southwest employees and it's a great honor to be here. So, thank you for including us. Uh this service to Taipei doesn't just build a strong connection between Sky Harbor and Asia. It also puts Phoenix at the crossroads of a great new partnership. Beginning in mid January, our Southwest team will be here providing their customer uh famous hospitality transferring China Airlines customers to and bags between Trans-Pacific flights and the unmatched network of Southwest Airlines. We'll offer these international travelers connections to nearly 40 cities across the United States, including Las Vegas, Austin, Dallas, Houston Nashville Baltimore and Orlando. This has been a decade of sustained growth for Southwest Airlines here in Phoenix. With new gates, new maintenance facilities, job growth, and new flights, the number of seats we offer travelers here in Phoenix has grown 30% in the last 10 years. That's included everything from domestic to international, long haul and short. We start even new short hall service to Tucson here in the next uh in March. And from the Hawaiian Islands to Cancun, from New England to Midsouth, Southwest Airlines will do all across the heartland. No one gives Phoenix what Southwest Airlines does every day with the heart that we give it to. Thank you to our partners at China Airlines. We welcome you to the great Southwest. [Applause] Thank you, Adam. We are so fortunate to have such a long-standing relationship with Southwest Airlines. It's one of our largest airlines right here at Sky Harbor Airport. We're really happy that you're with us today. Um, so, uh, our last speaker has been working with the Phoenix on our business case, as I'd mentioned, for many years, almost a decade, as we uh met back as as recently as 2023, uh, in the China Airlines headquarters in Taipei. uh we really appreciate all of uh his efforts, his confidence that he's really placed in our market uh as we uh launch this non-stop flight. And I'm just beyond thrilled today to welcome the chairman of China Airlines, Mr. George Cow. [Applause] This is a serious moment, so I need to read it words by words. And good afternoon everyone. Uh thank you to the CT of uh Phoenix uh Councilman Kevin and uh Chad and also our uh Das Suzan and all the discret distinguished guest uh from all over the governor and all department of the airport and also our team in China airline and I'm persspiring not because I'm nervous but it's the warm home hospitality when I step in in this airport. I can feel so make me persspiring. It is a great honor uh for me to personal fly on this first non-stop schedule flight from Taipei to Phoenix. But actually I was here and in 1997 it's almost 30 years ago. And from the window when we approach I can see a lot of change of the Phoenix. That's why I feel I'm right to open this flight to launch this flight from uh Taipei to Phoenix. and today mark another important uh milestone for our North American network and uh represent a new chapter for the China airline in the region. Phoenix is a major city in the southwest of the United States and also is one of the fastest and fastest uh growing city in the United States. So we truly believe uh in this city potential and uh look forward to building even stronger partnership uh together in here. North American is our most important network market. Uh, Phoenix is our seventh destination in the North American and the totally we I I believe we are we have a more than 40 flight uh from Tawian to the United States per week. So with the connect flight in Southwest airline I believe we can provide more convenience service to both side people passenger for example uh the passenger from the Asia no matter it's north Asia or northeast Asia or the Southeast Asia uh we can provide a more convenient flight through the Southwest airline. Finally, I want to express my sincere appreciation uh to the city of the Phoenix uh our partner in governor and everyone who support the launch of this sector. I would also like to uh give a special thanks uh to our hardworking Phoenix station teams. The milestone is possible because of your dedication and we hope you will continue to support China Airlines and we will keep promising providing the high quality service and reliable operation and look forward to become your first choice when you fly between Phoenix and Asia. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you, chairman. You know, I was thinking as you were speaking about um the the risk and the investment that it takes to actually have that very first flight come to a community. You uh have you we worked to build that business case. Uh but you had the confidence uh to make sure that this day happened and I just want to thank you and the entire China Airlines team for allowing us to make that today possible. So, thank you very much, sir. Uh so I have a couple of other uh very important people in the audience I really want to make sure that we recognize because it takes a lot of people to make a route work and so some of the the important folks in the audience that helped us to do this. Uh if you would uh join me in recognizing Phoenix Aviation Advisory Board member and past chair Sandra Pheneza is with us. Please uh join me in welcoming Sandra. Uh representing our Phoenix City Manager's Office and my boss deputy city manager Amber Williamson is with us. So, thank you, Amber, for being with us. Uh, I have a a couple of amazing team members that really make this day uh work on behalf of the City of Phoenix Aviation Department. First, Phoenix Sky Harbor's chief revenue officer, Roxan Favorvers. She actually was on the arrival flight as well. So, welcome Roxanne. Thank you for being a part of that. Chief uh development officer, he's the guy that helps to build the future of Sky Harbor Airport, Dber Malik. Thank you Dber. and our chief operating officer. She uh makes sure that everything from the roadways to the runways is working in good working order. Uh Sarah Demery is with us. Please join me in welcoming Sarah. We also have an amazing partnership with our federal agencies and today would not be possible without their cooperation and support and amazing uh focus on the future of Arizona. Uh and so with us uh from the Customs and Border Protection Phoenix port is port director Marisella Perez. Please join me in welcoming Miss Perez. Uh Chief Bernardet Garcia is with us today. Chief, thank you for being with us. And Chief Juanosario, thank you all for being with us today on behalf of uh the Customs and Border Protection. you really are the first impression for many, not only to the city of Phoenix, but to the state of Arizona and for many the United States of America. And so, we're just so grateful to have you as the face of our airport. So, thank you. Um, I also want to thank on behalf of the uh office of uh Arizona Office of Tourism, Alex Sculpser Ridgeway is with us today. Alex, thank you for being a part of this. And I know I have so many others in the back that I had a chance to greet as well from the Support Sky Harbor Coalition and many others. I just want to thank you all for being a part of uh today and making it special for us. So, I'd like to close by thanking everybody, especially all the members of our Phoenix aviation department that helped to make today possible uh in the onboarding process. You know, they work hard to uh to make sure that over 130,000 passengers every single day make it through our airport efficiently and safely. You know, and as the largest economic engine and the largest employment center uh in all of Arizona, although TSMC is getting much bigger, so we're watching them. Uh, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport contributes more than 44 billion dollars to the Arizona economy every single year. Uh, and our employees make all of this look so seamless, even during the busiest days. And so, I just want to thank all of those teams that help make this possible. Please join me in thanking them. [Applause] [Music] We all want to get to our destination safely, so be aware of everything happening around you whenever walking, riding, or rolling along our streets. Most pedestrian and bike crashes happen when drivers are turning. Scan the street for wheels and feet when turning or entering intersections. [Music] Good morning everyone and thank you all for joining us as we celebrate the grand reopening of Tal Tele telephone pioneer parks playground. I'm so thrilled that we have some fourth grade students from Village Meadow Elementary School here with us today. Little known fact, I actually attended Village Meadows a long time ago when it was probably a new school. Um, today's ribbon cutting reflects our city's commitment to equity and accessibility. This playground was designed to ensure children of all abilities can explore, learn, and have fun. It was designed with new adaptive play equipment, accessible surfacing, and sensory friendly elements. Parks should be places where everyone feels welcome, and Telephone Pioneer Park continues to lead the way. I want to acknowledge the hard work and partnerships behind this project. First, an a heartfelt thank you to Ability 360 for their advocacy and expertise. Let's give them a [Applause] Christopher, is it working? Okay, Christopher, you and your team are invaluable in providing inclusive recreation across the city. Thank you. I also want to thank Integrity Foundation for their dedication and helping bring this vision to life. I was here the day the Integrity volunteers worked on the playground and their enthusiasm was contagious. Thank you so much, Integrity. And finally, yes, round of applause for integrity. Finally, I want to offer my sincere appreciation to the parks and recreation department team. Their hard work, dedication, and passion are what make projects like this possible. And so, let's give them a round of applause. Also, thank you to the park department. This grand reopening of Telephone Pioneer Parks Playground shows Phoenix at its best. We value innovation, teamwork, and a commitment to serving every member of our community. I want to thank you again for being here, and I know we have a couple of more speakers, but I can't wait for us to all play. And that's the sign for play afterwards. So, now it's my imp my pleasure to introduce our parks and recreation department director, Cynthia Aguiler. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor. Good morning everyone. Especially to our students from Village. Is it Village Meadows? Did I get right? >> Yes. >> Village Meadows. I hear you are third through sixth graders. Is that right? >> Fourth through six. >> Four through six. Good morning. Thank you for being here. I also want to thank Vice Mayor O'Brien, who we introduced pretty quickly, but we're very lucky. She is the city council woman for this part of Phoenix, and you have a very fierce advocate for parks in your area. So, if you could please give her a round of applause. I may >> I meet with her very regularly and she is genuinely passionate about parks and because of her we are here today and because of our partners at Ability 360 and the integrity foundation. Uh this park has a special place in our park system. You heard a little bit about it. There is no other park in the entire Phoenix park system and we have almost 200 parks uh quite like Telephone Pioneer Park. was the city's first fully inclusive park and we have work to do to make sure that that continues and this is just one step towards that. Making sure that we provide generations to come accessibility to our parks is really at the forefront of what we do and as we continue to grow, we want to be sure that we're committed to that. Uh I do want to thank Ability 360. You are fantastic partners. We could not do what is done here for the community without you. Thank you very much to Chris and Gus, Belle, everyone involved here. And as the vice mayor mentioned, the parks team, we have several members. So, not only are they critical to making sure that things like this are planned, but moving forward that things like this are taken care of just to so to our children and to the community who's here. The moms I met at the front, I was so glad to meet you. They were so enthusiastic and appreciative for what we've done here. Um to all of you, thank you for really helping us take care of this place and making sure that other people are going to take care of it moving forward. Um and thank you to our parks and recreation team. If you are a parks employee, can you please raise your hand? And with that, um it's really my pleasure to introduce Christopher Knight, who is the CEO of Ability 360. All right, thank you so much. What a beautiful morning. Uh, everybody took my talking points about the uh, park. So, uh, some of them bear repeating because I know so many individuals, so many organizations uh, have have come together in order to make this come to fruition. As mentioned previously, this used to be one of the country's, if not the country's most accessible uh, park, making sure that everybody could have an inclusive experience. And over the years, obviously, as some things do, it's kind of fallen off and technology's gotten better and design has gotten more interesting. I'm so incredibly proud that we're able to move forward on creating what used to be and creating what will be, I think, really a landmark in terms of accessibility for parks and for recreational areas. So, I'm so thankful to the city of Phoenix. We're so thankful to the parks and recck department, certainly the Phoenix Suns who have helped. they introduced us into the to the integrity foundation which obviously helped put this all together and certainly I want to say a big thank you to our staff at Ability 360 because I know how hard it is to kind of wrangle everything together and to find the funds and to get everybody on the same page but I think once you work together we really do see the fruit we really do see the fruits of our labor and what's coming together. So I'll share a quick story and then we can go uh and enjoy ourselves. Just seeing this is just absolutely incredible. I got involved into the disability community as a result of being the younger brother to my brother TJ. We grew up in a a relatively small at the time country town called Tombball, Texas. Uh, and growing up, you know, I I was in a unique point vantage point to see my parents and some of their struggles. And as TJ, my brother, and I were growing up, we didn't have things like this. So I could tell how difficult it was for our parents to have to find different recreational opportunities because not everything was accessible as not everything was accessible for my brother. So we'd have to separate in many circumstances and you know from the beginning of my career beginning of all that kind of realizing what could the world look like if we could work better together to create places like this and here we are. So I'm so so proud of everybody's hard work. Thank you so much. This is just the beginning. It's going to be incredible. Thank you. [Music] [Music] >> Yes. 3 2 1 [Music] This location started out as a one room family school, one of the first schools in the whole valley. It was started by a pioneer family called the Osborne family. And it was actually uh Sydney Osborne, one of the sons of the family, became governor of Arizona in the in the 1940s. For 140 years, this building was a church. Several different denominations, but it started out in 1914 as the Bethl United Methodist Church. And as Phoenix continued to grow all around it, the need for larger buildings came along with that growth. So in 1948, they built this larger building. Starting in 2012, the new owners worked very very closely with the city to transform the building rather than demolishing it. And through a process called adaptive reuse, the city and the owners were able to transform this gorgeous building into a successful small business called the Taco Gill. [Music] [Music] Phoenix Park. foric. [Music] Up until 1889, the majority of the water that was used by Phoenicians came from the actual original canal that went through town. In 1889, a man named John Gardner started the first city waterworks, which is where we're standing today. Water was delivered to this very spot at Birdie Park by a redwood tunnel that extended for 30 miles to the east and the northeast. Part of the city waterworks in 1938 was this pump house. It was built with the intention of being an emergency pump house. Water has always been an important element of thriving in the Valley of the Sun. This pump house represents one of the few remaining structures that show how that water was transported in the early 20th century. And it's a wonderful piece of architecture here in the southwest corner of the Garfield Historic District that we can all continue to enjoy here at Verie Park. Welcome to the Caesar Chavez Community Center. the city of Phoenix's newest recreation center here in the beautiful Lavine Village. Come, I'll take you around. Over here, you will see the Caesar Chavez timeline. It's a great uh piece of work. As soon as you walk into the facility, you can see all the impact that Scissor Chavez has had in Arizona, and it's for you guys to see when you guys arrive. This here is our lovely gymnasium. It has basketball capacity, volleyball, pickle ball. We have wonderful courts that are meant for youth and adults spaces. And this is also included in your membership when you register at phoenix.gov or at our front desk. [Music] Welcome to our multi-purpose room. Uh this room is designed to have special events, meetings, take classes. Uh it seats anywhere between 80 to 100 people and is is reservable. [Music] This is our beautiful courtyard along with long games where families can come and enjoy the beautiful Arizona weather. This space is also available to reserve for special occasion occasions and special gatherings. And this is our beautiful teaching style kitchen that we have here at the Cesar Chavez Community Center. It is designed to teach classes here in our community. So, if you're interested in cooking 101 or maybe baking, this might be a good class for you to come and take. Um, we have stoves, refrigerators, microwaves, and I know this will be a great place for you to come and enjoy and learn to cook. And this is our wonderful game room space where it's designed for youth and adults to come hang out and engage in a friendly game of pool table, hockey, or foosball. This is also a great space for parents to come hang out while their par their children are taking classes here at our lovely community center. This is one of the amenities that is included in your membership here at the Cesar Chavez Community Center. And this is our beautiful upstairs fitness center that is designed with cardio machines, free weights, weight machines. And if fitness is one of your goals, this might be a place for you. Um out here we have this beautiful view of the Estrella Mountains where while you're working out you can have a a great view here. Um this also has an outdoor space that is designed to take a class maybe like an outdoor yoga or meditation class. Um also a reservable space. So, if you have a meeting and you'd like to enjoy the beautiful weather here in Lavine, this might be the sp the spot for you. And this is our wonderful indoor walking track. Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's meeting. If you could please find your seats. We will begin in 1 minute. Happy new year everyone. Thank you for joining us. We'll begin with an invocation from police chaplain Sexton. Madame Mayor, honorable council members, ladies and gentlemen, my prayer today is based upon what is known as the prayer of Jabz from 1 Chronicles 4:10, which says, "If only you would bless me, extend my borders. Let your hand be with me and keep me from harm so that I will not experience pain." Let us pray. Oh father in heaven, shower your blessings upon this meeting by granting peace of mind and wisdom to those here who are responsible for taking care of the people and resources that you've entrusted to them. Extend the territory of our hearts so that compassion reigns as this council and the many employees of the city of Phoenix work to benefit the people within our city and those who have contact with us from abroad. Father, let your hand be with this council to guide them throughout their journey and to ensure the outcomes that you desire. And finally, Lord, keep your servants here in the city of Phoenix from harm and supply them with the strength to complete what you have set before them so that your name is glorified in all the earth. Amen. >> Thank you, Chaplain. Councilman Robinson, will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? call to order the Phoenix City Council meeting. Will the clerk call the role? >> Councilwoman Wado >> here. >> Councilwoman Hernandez >> here. >> Councilwoman Hodgej Washington >> here. >> Councilwoman Pastor >> here. >> Councilman Robinson >> here. Councilwoman Stark >> here. >> Councilman Wearing, Vice Mayor O'Brien >> here, Mayor Ggo here. [Music] >> Thank you all for joining us. We have Mario Barahas and Elsie Dwarte with us to provide interpretation. Mario, would you introduce your team? >> Yes, mayor. Thank you. As already as already mentioned, my name is Mario Barahas. I'll be serving as one of the two interpreters. The other one being Elsarte will be serving as Spanish interpreters uh to the community. Now I'll take a moment to introduce ourselves to our Spanish speaking audience and then uh review a couple of guidelines. Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you so much, Mario. Will the city clerk read the 24-hour paragraph? The titles of the following ordinance and resolution numbers on the agenda were available to the public at least 24 hours prior to this council meeting and therefore may be read by title or agenda item only. Ordinances number G7469 through 7475 S52514 through 52542 and resolutions 22355 through 22362. >> Thank you. Will the city attorney explain the role of public comment? >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. Members of the public may speak for up to two minutes to comment on agenda items. Comments must be related to the agenda item and the action being considered by the council. General comments that go beyond the scope of the agenda item should be made during the citizen comment session at the end of the agenda. City council and staff cannot discuss or comment on matters related to pending investigations, claims, or litigation. Additionally, any member of the public who appears before the council in their capacity as a lobbyist must, as required by Phoenix City Code, disclose this fact before addressing the council. The city code states that speakers must express their comments respectfully and courteously. Use of profane language, threats, or personal attacks on members of the public, council members, or staff are not allowed. Such comments are disruptive and unrelated to the council's business. Any person who violates these rules may lose their opportunity to speak further and could be asked to leave. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. We'll begin with item one, boards and commissions. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? I move to approve mayor and city council boards and commissions nominations. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say I. I. >> Any opposed? Congratulations on your unanimous appointment. We will now do a swing in ceremony. >> I don't know. >> Congratulations. Let me hear your name, Rick, out loud. Okay. >> Congratulations. >> Please raise your right hand. >> State your name. Neymar >> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona >> and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona >> that I will bear true faith >> that I will bear true faith >> and allegiance to the same >> and allegiance to the same >> and defend them against all enemies >> and defend against all enemies >> foreign and domestic. >> foreign and domestic >> and that will faithfully and impartially and partially >> discharge the duties of the office of >> discharge the duties of the office of >> parks and recreation board >> Hamburg village planning commission >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability >> so help me God >> so help me God >> congratulations [Applause] Congratulations to our commissioners. We are very happy to have you. And we continue our recognition of great public servants with swearing in of municipal court judges. Vice Mayor, do you have a motion on item two? I move to approve as revised the swearing in of the following judges to serve four-year terms as municipal court judges. The Honorable Judge Nyquist, the Honorable Judge Sanchez, the Honorable Judge Dallas, the Honorable Judge Gilbert, and the Honorable Judge Jones. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any comments, Councilwoman Pastor, >> thank you. Thank you for your service. >> Thank you. And we're we're uh so pleased to welcome family members from kids to parents who are with you today to support our judges. All those in favor say I. I. >> Any oppose? Nay. Passes unanimously. And now we will swear in five of our judges. Thank you for your continued public service. But if you want if you want the families here and you want them to come forward, they're certainly welcome. >> If you brought your mom. >> Okay. I'll ask if you want to introduce guests. >> Sure. >> Okay. And I'll ask give you a chance to introduce your guest. >> Thank Thank you so much for your continued service. A couple people have guests, so I'll give you a chance to introduce them. >> This is my mother, Patty Gilbert. >> Okay. >> This is my mother, Anna. Also, my husband, Jeff. I have my sons, Jeffrey and Aiden, and Lucy. Excuse me. Can I pass? >> Anyone else to introduce? >> Fabulous. We're so pleased to to have you here and thank you for supporting them while they do such important work. >> All right. Raise your right hand, please. I state your name. I >> do solemnly swear >> domly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona >> and and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona. >> That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. >> That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and defend them against all enemies. >> and defend them against all enemies, >> foreign and domestic. >> foreign and domestic. and that I will faithfully and impartially >> And I will faithfully and impartially >> discharge the duties of Phoenix Municipal Court Judge >> discharge the duties of Phoenix Municipal Court >> according to the best of my ability. >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. >> Thank you for your service to Phoenix. [Applause] >> Yes, you're gonna they're walking this way right now. So once the nurse shakes her handul Pleasure. Well, thank you for our judges. Our municipal court is a real example for the whole country and we are so glad to have you continuing your service. And the good news continues with item three, the reappoint of municipal court judge Alex Spanzra. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Yes, mayor. I move to reappoint the honorable Judge Benzra to serve another four-year term as a municipal court judge. >> Second. A motion and a second. Judge Benzra has dedicated his life to public service, including as a public defender. So, thank you for your commitment to our justice system. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Congratulations on your unanimous reappointment. We are glad to have you serving. and I believe we will have a chance to have you back at a future meeting for the swearing in. So, thank you. What a nice way to start the year. The Phoenix City Council provides an advisory role to the state of Arizona on liquor licenses, and we will turn to that portion of our agenda next. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? I move to approve items 4 through 45, noting that item 45 is a request to withdraw. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Nay. Passes unanimously. >> City clerk, are we ready for ordinances, resolutions, new business, planning, and zoning? >> Yes, mayor. >> Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? I move to approve items 46 through 100 except the following. Items 52, 53, 54, 55 65 68 70 80 95 96 97 98 and 99. Noting that item 89 is as corrected. Items 77, 92, and 93 are continued to February 4th, 2026. Item 100 is withdrawn from the agenda to allow for the applicant to further work with the neighbors. And can the clerk confirm if there are any other items that should be excluded for in-person public comment? >> Yes, mayor, vice mayor. Also excluding items 61, 63, and 67. That's items 61, 63, and 67. >> We have a motion and second. And then since there is significant interest in it, I will note that this motion would withdraw from the agenda again, 24th Street and Missouri Avenue. Great. Uh, roll call. Want another one? >> Yes. Hernandez. >> Oh, Anna, vote. >> Yes. >> Hodge Washington. >> Yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 80. >> We next move to item 52, which is the selection of the vice mayor. I'll turn to Councilman Robinson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, it would be my honor to nominate um, somebody who is a first in so many areas, but District 8 Councilwoman Kesha Haj Washington for the position of vice mayor for the calendar year 2026. second. >> Second. >> We'll let the clerk decide who who was that second, but we'll note very strong support for Councilwoman Hajj Washington and and want to thank Vice Mayor Ann O'Brien for a very distinguished service as Vice Mayor for 2025. She's not only contributed through this role, helping run meetings, but she's been an invaluable partner on so many issues from transportation, infrastructure to public safety. I want to acknowledge and let her know how much I appreciate her leadership and partnership on international economic development for Phoenix. Today's an important day. TSMC secured land in North Phoenix to continue its expansion and Vice Mayor O'Brien has been a real champion to make these kind of meaningful economic opportunities available for our residents. So, we are a better serv city for your service. Thank you. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Councilwoman Stark. >> Thank you, Mayor. I too want to thank uh Vice Mayor uh Annne O'Brien. Uh we are neighboring districts so we do a lot of work together and I am proud to know her and I think she's done a fantastic job and I too want to congratulate her on the auction today. The uh semiconductor is a significant economic boom not just for the city of Phoenix but especially for District 1. It really is going to be everchanging. So thank you for all your hard work. I appreciate you and can't wait to continue to work with you for a few more years. >> Councilwoman Pastor. >> Yes. Uh I'd like to thank uh Councilwoman O'Brien and uh she has done a tremendous job um also leading the council but in in tough areas or spaces. She has al also been uh one that could hear uh some of the dynamics that was happening with policy and was open to listen and change. Uh I want to congratulate uh Councilwoman Kesha Haj Washington in particular. She's the first uh African a first woman African-American to be vice mayor and I think that's just going to continue and we will see a lot of changes as the city grows and as we continue to derify. So congratulations Councilwoman Hernandez. Thank you, mayor. And yeah, want to start by thanking um Councilwoman an O'Brien as the newest member of the council. You've always been so welcoming just with how process has happened up here. So, thank you for being a really good uh support system um as a vice mayor for the new member of the newest member of council. Um and thank you for everything you've done this last year. And congratulations to Councilwoman Kishha Haj Washington um on this new role and responsibilities. I I always appreciate that you're very straightforward with your thoughts and um on items and so I am looking forward to working with you on that. Um you know I think Phoenix is in a moment where there's so many changes and shifts happening daily locally and nationally and Phoenix really needs leadership that is going to be bold and stands up for for the right reasons and for the community. So um and collaborates with the community. So, I'm excited to work over this next year with you as vice mayor to make sure that we are delivering for our communities um across Phoenix in the best way possible. So, congratulations on that. >> Thank you. We'll go to Councilwoman Gordado and then Councilman Robinson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Also want to congratulate um Councilwoman Hutch Washington. Um very excited for you um to be our new vice mayor. Um we are going into some very difficult times. We've been in some very difficult times um I trust your leadership. I trust what you have to say. I have definitely had the chance to work with you um in the last couple of years and I one thing I definitely really appreciate about you is your honesty and what you bring to the table and if you tell me one thing today if it changes you will call me and tell me that it has changed but it but for the most part I think it's been wonderful um to work with you um and everything that you have done for your district and I know that as vice mayor you will definitely be a voice um for our most um vulner- nerable um population and we are going into again continue to be in these difficult times and we have a lot of work um to do ahead and looking forward um to continue to work with you um and do some great things for our residents. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman Robinson. >> Thank you, mayor. I want to add my congratulations to the outgoing Vice Mayor Anne O'Brien. um just a wonderful person to work with, has provided the type of leadership um that you you know that you really want to see in an organization in a city this size and just been great. Whole time I have been on the council, as um Councilwoman Hernandez was saying, she has been nothing but you know that mentor, that person who um provides that that level of advice and steady leadership and I've always appreciated that. So Ann, thank you very much. Just glad I get to keep working with you and everything else. and I made the nomination for Kesha. So, Kesha, congratulations. I was going to say something about your sorority, but then my wife gets mad at me and so I won't do that because apparently you didn't pledge the right sorority is what I understand. But congratulations to that as well. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor O'Brien. >> Thank you all. And serving as vice mayor of Phoenix really has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. I am very grateful for all the um faith that mayor put in me and allowing me to represent the city at different events, especially at the international level. Um I am thrilled to support Councilwoman Hajj Washington as Phoenix's next vice mayor. She brings a fierce commitment to equity and an unwavering dedication to the people of Phoenix. Um she approaches every issue with thoughtfulness, professionalism, and a clear focus on results. From her journey as a first generation college graduate to her service as assistant attorney general protecting children to her leadership on the council, Kesha's career reflects a deep commitment to justice and community. And as she makes history as Phoenix's next vice mayor, I look forward to continuing our shared work on housing solutions, homelessness prevention, and building a Phoenix that works for everyone. So together, we will keep Phoenix moving forward. Congratulations. Thank you so much, Councilwoman Haj Washington. >> Thank you, Mayor. I too want to start off by giving my gratitude to Vice Mayor Anne O'Brien um for her service over the past year. Um it's been a pleasure to work with you. Um from dealing with tough policy decisions to simply doing the more social fun items. You've always been supportive, willing to provide advice and support in so many ways. Thank you for doing that. I hope that it will be you will continue to allow me to ask you questions as I move into this next journey. I want to say thank you to Councilman Robinson for making the motion. Um, I want to also thank my colleagues for the support. Um, I did not pledge the wrong sarity. There is a reason I have on the colors I do right now. But I do want to say thank you to my colleagues for the confidence you've shown in me. I really appreciate it and I'm grateful for the opportunity to serve the council and our city in this role. Um, this is a moment I approach with a lot of respect for the responsibility that comes with it. Phoenix is a growing and evolving city, and the decisions we make here today matter deeply to the people we represent. I look forward to working closely with each and every one of you and the mayor to continue moving our city forward in a way that is collaborative, thoughtful, and focused on delivering real results for our residents. I come to this role with the same mindset I bring to my work on this day every day. listening to our communities, asking the hard questions, and working towards solutions that are fair, practical, and grounded in the needs of our city. I am thankful for the trust placed in me, and I'm ready to get to work. So, thank you. >> Thank you so much, Councilwoman and Denise. This should be a a roll call. All right, roll call. >> Yes. >> Hernandez, >> yes. Haj Washington, >> yes. Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 8 Z. Congratulations, Councilwoman Hajj Washington, our incoming vice mayor. [Applause] We appreciate your work on so many things from bioscience to housing and you've made history as the first Delta- elected vice mayor of the city of Phoenix. Uh, Councilman Hud Washington's term as vice mayor will start at our next council meeting, but huge congratulations. We next go to item 53, which is an annexation and a public hearing for the riles pass annexation. We'll open the public hearing. We have uh Taylor Earl here to speak if necessary. Does anyone have any questions? Right. We will close the public hearing. There is no vote today, just a public hearing. Next up is item 54, the proposed Sunup Ranch annexation. We will open the public hearing. We do not have anyone here to speak, so we'll close the public hearing. And again, today there will not be a vote on this item. We'll next move to item 55, authorization to license city- owned vacant land near 36th Avenue and West Encanto Boulevard to the Delmonte Village Garden Association. Counciloman Pastor, would you like to make the motion? >> Yes, I would like to move item 55. >> Second. >> A motion, a second, and I will recognize Counciloman Pastor to discuss the item. >> Yes. Um, I want to first start off uh thanking and recognizing the Del Monte Village Garden Association and the residents within that area. Um, including their leader, Naomi, who has stayed committed to this project. It's been a year project, actually a little bit more, a year and a half. And last year, uh, the group applied for participatory budget funding from district 4's office to build the community garden. At the time, I had to deny the applications because, uh, they didn't have the site. Uh, they needed to go through the process to be able to use the site and get the permission that is needed. And really instead of walking away, they dug in and they did the work and stayed engaged and worked through the city processes which can be a little cumbersome at times and and coordinated with the departments and kept pushing forward. Um what are what we're voting on is a result of back and forth problem solving and persist persistence and I want to congratulate them for doing that. I also want to congratulate and thank uh neighborhood services, but in particular neighborhood specialist Rosie Espinosa uh who helped them throughout this whole process and guided them. Um this is exactly the kind of community-led project that we want throughout District 4, but also throughout the city of Phoenix and neighbors coming together, improving their own neighborhood and collaborating with the city. So, I just want to thank them for doing that. Um, in this whole process, we're also going to have education and some food producing projects like uh Phoenix food forest initiative where neighborhood neighbors are planting edible plants and reimagining how public spaces are can be served. And this garden is just one step forward. So, thank you again to the Del Monte Village Association. Thank you so much. We have a motion and a second. Roll call. >> Ernnandez, >> yes. >> Hodge Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 70. >> Next up is item 61, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Funds. Do we have a motion? >> I move to approve item 61. We have a motion. We have a second. Uh Leonard Clark is here to testify. >> Thank you, mayor and council members. Uh I just uh I think this is probably pretty close to 63. I uh I was reading through it and I saw also that I'm not sure. I think it's the same one that helps veterans um get funding as well. So uh I just want to thank you for letting me speak and uh I uh support this. I don't need to come up for 63. Thank you. >> Wonderful. Thank you. So, uh, Leonard is in favor of both 61 and 63. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Podge Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 70. Item 63 is related to well I'll just read it. Authorization to retroactly accept and disperse funding from the Arizona administrative office of the courts and friends of the court incorporated. Amend the emergency shelter heat relief respit operator and supportive services qualified vendor list and increase authority to amend contract with community bridges. >> Mayor I move to approve item 63. >> Second >> motion in a second noting Leonard is in favor. Roll call. >> Hernandez. >> Yes. Hodgej Washington. >> Yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Vgo, >> yes. >> Passes 70. >> Item 65 is to authorize additional funding to the miscellaneous building repairs contracts. Vice Mayor, >> I move to approve item 65. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Councilwoman Hernandez. >> Thank you, Mayor. just have a question, a couple questions for um parks on this item. Sorry. Thanks. Um just a couple questions on the vision for the buildings repairs and infrastructure upgrades. Um also still recognizing that I'm still a little sore from the December 18th votes on parks. Um but Cynthia, my first question, can you give us a little bit more insight into examples of what infrastructure investments we might see um like for example in district 7 parks or should parks get this um uh access to this funding? >> Yes, Councilwoman Hernandez, Mayor, members of the city council. Um what this authorization does is really allow us greater spending authority for to have more flexibility in uh for planned projects as well as unplanned projects that come up. In district 7 specifically, we were able to use uh we will be able to use these contracts to renovate many parks such as Hoey um and Keo. Also Hayden Park is uh scheduled as well which is in district 7 as you know. And then citywide there's greater um larger projects that you would um consider like ADA improvement, sidewalks, parking lot improvements. When we go into parks and convert existing lighting into LED lighting projects, that's also kind of a citywide bucket, if you will. And again, um these are projects that tend to require little to minimal design and engineering. And it allows us greater flexibility from a cost efficiency savings and a time efficiency savings. Thank you. That's so um great to hear. I think you covered a little bit about the infrastructure, but is can you elaborate any more on the infrastructure um that we will be building? Anything additionally that you haven't mentioned that you didn't mention? >> Yes, Council Hernandez, mayor, members of city council. Additional infrastructure things could be um irrigation improvements as well as other lighting projects. Also, this could cover interior. So not infrastructure in the sense that you might be thinking of it also interior work that might be needed. So while it could be plumbing and electrical work, it's also um beautifification renovation projects. It could be flooring and other types of indoor improvements. >> Okay. And along those lines, would some of that infrastructure like the inter what' you call it? The >> the interior >> the interior um like beautifification and things like that. Would there be a path to create infrastructure that provides care to people? um into the communities. >> These Councilwoman Hernandez are specifically on a construction side for renovations. >> Perfect. So with that, I'm assuming that or can you confirm if any of that funding would go to the park ranger side of things or solely just to construction? >> Uh good question, Councilman Hernandez. This is solely construction, renovations, improvement projects. >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. Um, you know, I know parks is always a hot item in city council meetings for and that's for a reason, right? Like we all are in agreement. We want beautiful parks. We want safe parks. Um, and I just always feel the need to publicly remind us that these investments are worth it in our parks. Um, and you know, they need to be done in an equitable way to go across the across the board. um especially into some of the smaller parks and not just into the bigger you know fancier parks that we have. Um and you know I know parks historically um is an area that has been underinvested um uh into some of those areas in the city. You know I have a couple parks like Smith Park and Playa Margarita um that are just as important deserve those infrastructure investments um and just like any of our other parks. So, I'll continue to push us for those small investments um for those underfunded parks in District 7. So, thank you so much, Cynthia. Thank you Mayor. >> Thank you. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Hodge Washington. >> Yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 80. Item 67 is issuance of bonds for S. What is it? >> Education. >> SSS Academy Project. Uh, do we have a motion? >> I move to approve item 67. >> Second. We have a motion and a second. And we have Leonard Clark here to testify. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, Leonard just said he does not need to speak. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Hodgej Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 80. >> Item 68 is the authorization to execute short-term licenses and agreements with the USA for use and access on city- owned property. Vice Mayor, >> I move to approve item 68. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. will turn to Councilwoman Hernandez for comments. >> Thank you, Mayor. I have a few questions on this item. >> Thank you, Chiefs, for coming to the table. Um, just have a few questions. Has the first question being um has the federal government communicated what departments will which one of their departments will be using our city property? Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Hernandez, uh for this particular request that came in, uh this was initiated by the US Army, uh and they have their objectives outlined as to what they plan to do for exercises. >> Okay. Thank you. And in that, have we heard um if ICE or the National Guard will be involved in any of those drills or using any of our city property? Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Hernandez, when from the time that uh the police department was notified of the intent and the request to conduct these exercises in the city of Phoenix, there has been no mention whatsoever of using any of this uh for the enforcement purposes of immigration or any any type of immigration investigations. This was a pre-planned event. It's one of many that multiple branches of the military do on a regular basis throughout uh the year. Um, and this particular one happens to be uh through the US Army. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, and how are we making neighborhoods around the training exercises aware that military will be in their neighborhoods? >> Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Hernandez, for this particular type of training, this is what they can what they classify as a low visibility type of training. uh meaning that the intent and the goal behind this training is to have the absolute most minimalist footprint they can have. Uh again, for that very reason, they don't want to create concern in the area. They recognize that they're operating outside of a military base. Uh so they are very conscious about that. Um however, uh one of the the items that we did discuss during the briefing is to make sure that uh if approved that this item we would uh make sure that messaging is pushed out to the public. uh it would be rather vague because they don't tell us a whole lot about what the mission is. Um but at least to let the public know that this is a non-immigration enforcement type of activity uh should they see any type of vehicles or anything. >> Okay. Thank you. Um and is there anything you can provide that or you know so the public can hear of any sort of training drills that they should expect to um see. Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Hernandez. Um, again, the information that they give us on this is very limited. They keep that pretty much a close hold uh to the military itself. Um, we would anticipate that they would again have a very minimal presence in terms of personnel. Um, this is we are led to understand is that it is one of the final phases of training for this particular branch. Um and this is one of the locations that they like to utilize only because it uh represents a very similar um urban environment as well as a desert environment which is very comparable to the areas that they're preparing to deploy across the globe. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you chiefly. Um you know I asked those questions because obviously the community is on heightened awareness right now considering everything that has happened nationally and in different cities across the the country. um especially over the last few days and even today. So I want to make sure that the community is aware and you know I for one don't always trust the current government um to tell us one thing and then not move and pivot to a different situation. So um just want to be very mindful of that. So thank you. >> Any other questions or comments? Councilman Robinson. >> Thank you Vice Mayor. One real quick question for I don't know if Chief Girardano or um Chief Lee, for how long have we been in a um some type of agreement, a contractual agreement with the government doing these exercises? >> Mayor, members of council, Councilman Robinson, uh to the best of my knowledge, I can recall going back probably as far as the last 10 years or so. Um these agreements that had been in place previously would vary uh from 1 to 3 years. uh but there would be continual requests usually on an annual basis we would receive a request uh from one of one or more um branches of the government to conduct these particular types of training. >> Thank you. And I understand um Councilwoman Hernandez's concerns. I think they're echoed by a lot of different folks. During those years we've had these relationships or these contractual agreements with um the US Army or whoever is here. Have we h ever had any complaints from the community or the public that you were aware of? Mayor, members of council, Councilman Robinson, to my knowledge, we've not received any. Um, I would also add to that that uh when we do receive these requests, uh, we take a very thoughtful approach as to how we go about coordinating that, uh, to make sure that number one, public safety, both police and fire are involved as well as, uh, the office of emergency management because this is a part of our preparedness and and, uh, uh, contingency plan in the event of an emergency and we have to reach out for additional resources. uh for this particular one here, we do have a liaison that's assigned to be with the branch director for that military uh exercise throughout the three days that they'll be operating in Phoenix. Uh and we make sure that we have direct connectivity with everybody involved uh as well as our other city departments. >> Okay, thank you very much. Those are all the questions I have. Thank you, Vice Mayor. >> Oh, Councilwoman Ernandez, >> thank you. Follow-up question here. Um and thank you because you kind of made me think of another question. Um, in the past 10 years, have we also been under a federal administration that has expanded use of federal agencies um to exert um immigration enforcement in different cities throughout the country? >> Vice Mayor O'Brien, Councilwoman Hernandez, that's really outside my purview to answer that question, but I I I understand what you're asking. unprecedented times call for unprecedented questions, right? Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other uh Councilwoman Haj Washington? Thank >> Thank you so much, Vice Mayor. Um just more of a question like what criteria, if any, is used to determine whether or not a site is actually appropriate for a specific exercise. is I know you say you don't really have a lot of information as to what type of exercise will occur in the neighborhoods or if they're adjacent to a neighborhood, but do we have some level of criteria that will say this type of activity is not appropriate for this specific site or if we enter into this agreement does it give our federal partners um you know cart blanch to go wherever we have a specific site? Vice Mayor, members of council, councilwoman Hajj Washington. Uh actually we do have the ability and that's one of the key reasons why we make sure from the very beginning that we are involved in the planning. Once we understand the request, we do ask to see what the specific logistical needs are going to be for that particular exercise. Um we we do believe it's our responsibility to make sure that we can rightsize the exercise for the venue that's being requested. If it doesn't fit or opposes additional logistical challenges outside of that venue, then that would be our responsibility to make sure that we bring those up. And if it means moving to another location, then we would certainly make those recommendations. >> So, does the final decision making as to what exercise occurs at what site lie within the city of Phoenix representative through the police department or does it lie ultimately with the federal partner? Vice Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Haj Washington, uh that decision ultimately I believe and my understanding was that we would have the right to say no, this is not appropriate for the venue that's being requested. Um I don't recall a situation where we've had that happen where we've had to uh a lot of the locations and the sites are ones that get used repeatedly. So they're already tested, they're tried, we have an understanding of the footprint and the uh the layout of those. Um but yes, I do believe that we would ultimately have that responsibility to decline. Um just given the previous questions about some of the unprecedented nature of some of the things that we've seen going forward um is there a a possibility of including in one of your uh your best practices or your policy procedures is that you would share that information with the council members in which district might be affected so he or she knows the information or the exercise possibility in that area. Vice Mayor, members of council, Councilwoman Hajj Washington, I I do believe that's a fair request. I think that that's a responsible approach and I think that we have done our best anytime we do get one of these uh to make sure that we notify the affected area, whether it's uh the community or whether it's uh city leadership. >> And then my last question would be um given what I've read here in the report, it says it's a three-year um kind of a three-year term. Is there any mechanism in place or would be in place for the termination if if we find that it's not conducive or it doesn't align with our community values um for us to say that this no longer works for us as a city? What is the procedure or is there a termination mechanism? >> So, vice mayor, members of council, councilwoman Hajj Washington on that. I would probably defer to Julie, our legal uh colleague for an opinion on that. Oh, mayor, members of council, I haven't seen this exact contract, but I can tell you that um the majority, if not all of our contracts do have provisions in for either termination of convenience or termination for cause. >> Thank you for that clarification. That concludes my questions, Vice Mayor. >> Thank you so much. Any other questions or comments? Roll call. >> Hernandez. >> Vice Mayor, >> please. >> Thank you. Um I'm voting no on this request. one, my concern, my grave concerns with the current government and how they function in all of our cities. Um, secondly, the timing of this is really horrible. Um, I think a week ago or last Friday, we all received news that Trump plans to expand his ICE and National Guard invasions into the city of Phoenix. Um, just earlier today before we came to this meeting meeting, we witnessed an ICE agent murder a legal observer in Minneapolis. Um, this ICE agent shot her in the head. Um, this is an American citizen and I am besides myself on what that means for all of our cities. Uh, we are being asked to authorize the use of city- owned land for military training at a time when federal leadership has openly threatened the use of force and expanded domestic interventions like the National Guard under the banner of national security and US military groups are now killing people in US city neighborhoods. um MLK's birthday who is which is next week warned us about this that federal troops terrorizing local communities and now this fascist government wants to train in our in our own neighborhood so they can terrorize us better and I just have a lot of concerns with that. Under no circumstances should we collaborate with this government and its armed forces. We cannot make space for them to use our facilities and property. We cannot allow them to train in our parks and our communities. We cannot create opportunities for federal armed forces to be present in our city because this president has threatened action here. We must start resisting him now and we cannot allow what is currently underway in Minneapolis to happen here in Phoenix. And with that, I vote no. >> Washington, >> I would like the opportunity to explain my vote for Vice Mayor. Thank you. Um I want to emphasize as mentioned in the question how important it is for me that community has aware there's transparency and community awareness when city- owned properties are used for these types of activities. So advanced notice clear communication and coordination with nearby neighborhoods and the council members that are affected are critical to maintaining public trust and minimizing concern or disruption. My question regarding the potential for termination if it doesn't align with our community benefits was for me the most important part. Um so I will vote yes but with the with the understanding that we want to ensure that we are fully apprised of which sites in our communities are being used and we are allowing the council members and we are aware of what's going on. So, I'm going to continue our long our long-standing practice of providing these sites to our federal partners, but with the understanding that we are going to be advised and if it does not align, I would be one of the first council members asking for us to terminate the contract. Thank you, >> Pastor. >> Yes. >> Robinson. Vice Mayor, if I can explain my vote. >> You know, I'll um preface this with I understand exactly where um Councilwoman Hernandez is coming from and I I get it. I really do. But what I will do, what I would ask rather is for Chief Gardonno, you hear this, you know what we're saying, you know the situation we're in and the overall feelings about these things. I will vote yes. But I'm asking Chief O'Donnell to take this personally. this is his responsibility and to make those contacts, know what's going on, and if there is anything at all that would give you cause for concern that you will immediately bring it to our attention. >> Yes, sir. >> And with that, I'll vote yes. Thank you, Vice Mayor >> Stark. >> Yes. >> Wearing. >> O'Brien, >> yes. Passes 61. >> Wonderful. Item 70. Um, I move to approve item 70. Second. >> Have a motion and a second and I will turn to um Councilwoman Ernnandez for comments. >> Thank you. I just have a few questions. I don't know. Chief Lee might want to come back or >> Oh, Chief Castro. Okay. Got it. Never mind. Chief Lee, go ahead. >> Uh thank you, Vice Mayor. Um just have a couple of questions on this grant and how um on what the funding could be spent on. Um first question would be uh can you give me some specifics on how the department will use the funding? Um specifically like what infrastructure are you looking to invest in? >> Uh thank you um Mayor Council Councilwoman Hernandez. This uh funding is through the vision zero project which is um their mission is to reduce fatalities and serious injury accidents by uh the year 2050. So our mission right now is to reduce fatal accidents in um major intersections that we have um uh that we have found through our crime analysis research unit. So the top 10 um intersections will be targeted uh for uh for enforcement. The money will be used for um new equipment, radar detectors as well as portable um blood tests and drug tests. What we have found is that a majority of our fatalities and serious injury accidents come from speed, inattention, alcohol, and drugs. And so the goal is to be able to go there and enforce that to reduce um to reduce uh drivers from acting in that way in those intersections and in turn reducing fatalities. The other 85 um so that would be about $120,000 and the other $85,000 would be to offset the overtime that it would take to um to do these uh to do these enforcement projects. >> Okay. Thank you. So, so what I'm hearing is that we're not actually going to focus on infrastructure or things that um that are evidence-based interventions or national best practices to be tested. It's going to be money that's going to be spent on enforcement measures. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um, and are those enforcement measures part of the vision zero program or because I'm not well I'll have to admit I'm not well verssed on all the details of the vision zero programs but I know that Phoenix has I think we're either number one or two leading in pedestrian deaths and I would assume that the vision zero plan has tangible evidence-based solutions that we could incorporate that would actually reduce pedestrian deaths. I I'm hesitant to believe that enforcement is the answer to re our our answer to reducing pedestrian deaths. So like is there anything you can point to in the vision zero program that um will be incorporated in addition to enforcement? >> Mayor Council, Councilwoman Hernandez, um the way that it is written, uh there is nothing specifically that we're asking for to use the money. However, part of the Vision Zero program does include um educational resources for us to go out and educate the public and communities on um speed and drug and alcohol driving. Um that is not what the money is being spent for. However, we will be going out to communities to educate them on uh reducing their speed in those communities. >> Okay. Thank you. I it just if I'm quite honest, it just sounds like another pathway to get more money. I mean, one of the things you just mentioned is some of the funding will be used to offset overtime, which is already a problem. So, I'm just having a really hard time digesting how this is going to be in fact impactful when it seems on the surface and from what I'm hearing it's another way to just move more money to the police department. um that's not going to actually create infrastructure or tangible tools that's going to stop or reduce our pedestrian debts. So, just have a lot of concerns there. Thank you so much for for answering my questions. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor. >> Thank you, Leonard Clark. >> Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh my faith is just renewed because I didn't think I was going to get called. So, but uh yeah, I was just driving here and look, I need to be safer, too. I believe in the city of Phoenix, you're supposed to uh break on yellow, stop on red. Um but, you know, just coming in here trying to park. I had someone clearly the light was red. They ran it and then I had to turn back around cuz I was trying to find a parking space and the guy was on a motorcycle and I know he was in a hurry to get home. He clearly the signal went off and he ran it anyways right next to city hall. And uh so I'm hoping also you can do something about road rage cuz I understand a lot of us want to go home. But you know I for example when I'm driving in the city of Phoenix I'll move to the side on the right hand and try to let people go cuz you don't know what they're experiencing. But some people seem to really get a thrill out of getting up on your tailgate if they think you know you're elderly a woman or somebody they can bully. So people are doing that a lot. So, I don't know if we just need to get back to I know people hate red light cameras, especially my conservative friends and even my leftwing friends. But you know what? I think we need something. Too many people are dying. So, uh I hope some of this will actually be used to enforce the speed rules cuz you know, if you're in a society and you have laws and you don't follow them, that's pretty bad because then the rest of societyy's like, "Well, we we want to enforce these laws. We don't have to follow these laws." Kind of like what's going on nationally right now. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman Hudwash or Councilwoman Stark and then Councilwoman Hud Washington. >> Oh, I Oh, I'm sorry. I saw the microphone on and I was guessing. >> Oh, I'm >> Councilwoman Hudge Washington. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just had I don't know if the question is probably better for streets um to talk about a little bit about um vision zero and traffic safety. Well, I'll throw it out there anyhow. Maybe someone at the table can help can um help. It's my understanding that the vision zero pro vision zero includes um not only education engineering um but it also includes an enforcement aspect of it. So just to ensure that this component of it we're talking about with respect to enforcement is consistent with the vision zero um plan for our city. And I cheated. I looked at the website. So it does say that. >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, uh, Councilman Haj Washington, and members of the council. Yes, that is accurate. The plan does include several components. One of those being enforcement as a component. And this funding is intended to address that component of the plan. You're correct. >> And then so it also includes for example like engineering. So we are moving multiple pieces forward as we have this conversation. But right now, this item only is primarily focused a little bit on education and enforcement. But as a totality, there are other components that we're moving forward to move forward. Vision zero. Correct, >> mayor, members of the council, that is accurate. >> Okay. Because I think as a as mentioned, vision zero has been not been, but it's a community um driven and they've kind of outlined what they want as the community has outlined what we want to see to help reduce some of the traffic safety concerns and pedestrian debt. So this is just one step for the council to continue to move forward um in implementing the entirety of vision zero. Correct. >> Yes, mayor, members of the council, Councilwoman Hajj Washington, this is one piece of the puzzle uh to hopefully achieve our goal of vision zero. This is one component. There are multiple pieces moving forward uh under various departments, primarily the streets department. Um but this is one piece that will contribute to the overall success of the plan. >> Okay. And then my my last question would be um I don't believe I saw a location for the pilot. Um is there a location identified? >> So the 10 locations that we've identified uh again through our statistics are um I mean I can read them out to you. 67th Avenue and McDow Road, 19th Avenue and Poria Avenue, 67th Avenue in Thomas, uh 67th Avenue and Indian School Road, um 83rd Avenue and Indian School Road, Caveak Road and Sweetwater Avenue, 51st Avenue and Thomas Road, 27th Avenue and Camelback Road, 99th Avenue and Lower Buckeye, and 19th Avenue and uh Southern Avenue. And those and just for just bear with me you I'm sorry. Oh and those locations were based on a number of factors including pedestrian um safety fatality uh vehicle fatalities and other components. Correct. >> Correct. Those are the 10 um highest impacted intersections in the city when it comes to um collisions. >> Thank you so much. That concludes my questions. Councilwoman Pastor, >> out of those tens, whose districts are those? >> Um, I can't tell you off the top of my head exactly, but it looks like there's uh four eight >> five, >> five, seven. >> Yeah, >> the other parts. >> Yeah, I think >> there are other probably parts of the city that are I'm going to go back to the term of equity. because I keep hearing that today and so um I'm asking only because I think it needs to be I think there's other parts of the city also other than that concentrated area. Um but those are my comments. >> Mayor, Council, Councilwoman Pastor, there are accidents in other intersections. Those are just the 10 highest intersections that have um accidents. Okay. Coun Vice Mayor. >> So, does the grant require them to go to the top 10 intersections? >> Mayor, council, uh, Vice Mayor O'Brien. No, that's just where we, um, believe would be the highest impact to reduce fatality and serious injury accidents would be to go to the locations that have the most accidents. >> Okay. Um, may I ask Councilwoman Pastor a question ma'am? >> Yeah, please. Council council question from council the vice mayor >> um you're based on your comment are you asking that >> the enforcement happen um throughout the city? >> Yes. >> Okay. I didn't want to >> Yes. >> presume. >> Yeah. >> Um and so if that is the will of the council, a majority of the council, I can tell you that my residents would welcome additional enforcement. So, if you know we took the top intersection from each district, um I would welcome the additional enforcement as would my community members because they are always asking me for um the red light enforcement, the the cameras. Um so, if this is a way to get additional enforcement um across the city, I welcome that. Thank you, Mayor. >> Mayor, >> Councilman Stark. >> Thank you. Actually, I think a couple of the intersections were in district three. I think part of the problem is in some of the older parts of the city, they're designed differently than newer parts of the city where they can have uh they they have more to work with as far as improvements because a lot of the roads in the uh older parts of the city just weren't equipped to handle the type of traffic we have today. Um, and while I love to see it everywhere out through the city, I think the priority got to be the most dangerous intersections. But that's just my opinion. >> Any we ready to vote or any additional comments and questions? Okay, I believe we are ready to vote. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> no. >> Haj Washington, >> yes. Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 71. >> Number next is 80. The an intergovernmental agreement with the Arizona Department of Transportation to relocate City of Phoenix water and sewer mains. Do we have a motion? >> Mayor, I move to approve item 80. >> Second. >> A motion a second. This item is at the intersection of district four and five. Councilwoman Pastor, do you have any comments? >> Yes, I have some questions on um item 80. >> Mayor and Councilman Pastor and members of the um council, we'll see if Brand we can have Brandy Kel come to the table, our water director. But until then, um I'll do my best to answer any questions you may have. I just wanted to understand if I read that Bry's right there. I'll just wait. >> Okay. Thank you. She's coming. >> And for the audience, this is for reimbursement for water and sewer mains um from A DOT to the city >> and it's a nice safety project. So, I know it's not the water department's safety focus, but I think from a streets and highways perspective, this is a nice nice project. Hi Brandy, I am just having I just had some questions in in reading the report yesterday. Uh this is for 35th Avenue in Indian School. uh 35th Avenue in Indian schools having a major major uh infrastructure um redevelopment which could include uh a BRT going through there. Um, also including a I don't know what we call it, a ramp, bridge, I don't know what we call it, flyaway, uh, going over uh, 35th and grand. Um, the possibility of light rail or BRT going on Indian school. Um, so I just want to get clarity. This is to relocate water infrastructure and other areas in order to uh be able to do all the uh infrastructure and construction that is needed. >> Uh mayor, council, councilwoman um pastor. Yes. So ADOT's required to protect our facilities when they go through and do all these improvements. And so what they've asked us to do ahead of time is to add some valves and move some of our larger mains out of the way of their construction so that we can still provide the services we need to provide while they do the major relocations of anything that might be in their way. >> Okay. And in this process and all this that is happening, we are being reimbursed by ADOT. Correct. Yes, that is correct. Now, in the report, what I read, and this is where I got a little confused, that there are certain areas or some areas, and I don't know if I interpret it correctly, that's why I'm asking, is that um we will have to pay for certain stuff that I guess wouldn't be required of the project. Mayor, Council, Councilwoman Pastor, there are things that the water department would like to move out of the way that aren't necessarily required for ADOT to do their work. >> Okay. >> Um and so those things we would pay for ourselves um just because we're worried about the integrity of those >> um your facilities near the new stuff, >> right? It's it's upgrading um as as we're going through this process. It's really upgrading infrastructure and moving infrastructure that is currently uh in the way and also being able to upgrade it at the same time. That's my understanding. >> Yes, that's correct. Thank you. >> Okay, that's what I wanted to know. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Roll call. >> Yes. >> Hodge Washington. >> Yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Diego, >> yes. >> Passes 80. >> Next, we will go to items 95 and 96, which are related items, but we will have two votes. They're related to the southwest corner of Scottsdale and Bell Roads. Uh we have only the applicant here today in favor. Um which is actually an impressive achievement for folks who have followed uh this part of our city. This is a lot of civically engaged individuals. So thank you to Councilman Wearing and the applicant for working with the neighbors. We will open the public hearing. Would the uh applicant like to say anything? We will close the public hearing and I'll turn to Councilman Wearing. And this sure started with some very upset letters. Uh but we're pleased to have resolved concerns. Uh perhaps one could say the process worked. >> Yes, I do think the applicants spent a lot of time on this and I appreciate that. Um uh so hopefully everybody's happy. Nobody came to the village if I recollect and nobody came to the planning committee and uh as the mayor said that's that's not the way this necessarily usually works uh particularly with a project that's pretty close to a neighborhood. Um so uh I'm ready to make a motion mayor if you're >> please >> uh uh so a motion to approve the item per the planning uh commission and adopt the related ordinance. Second. >> Uh Denise would prefer a motion to adopt the related resolution. >> Or adopt the related resolution. My apologies. >> Second's good with that. >> Second. Yes. >> Roll call. >> Ernandez. >> Yes. >> Hodge Washington. >> Yes. >> Pastor. >> Yeah. >> Robinson. >> Yes. >> Stark. >> Yes. Wearing. >> Madam chair. Just to explain my vote. Um, we have a general rule in district 2 just as long as Denise is happy. So, I vote >> O'Brien. >> Yes. >> There you go. >> Yes. Passes 80. All right. Item 96 where we had a good motion earlier on this one. >> Yes. I did it one time too early. Motion to approve per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related ordinance. >> Second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call. >> Hernandez. >> Yes. Haj Washington. >> Yes. Pastor, >> maybe. No. Yes. >> We need some humor over here. >> That gonna hurt my feelings. It's okay. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 8-0. >> Wonderful. Congratulations, Councilman Wearing. Congratulations to the applicant. All right. Next we go on to we will do a one hearing but two votes for 97 and 98 which are related to the southwest corner of 35th Street and Culver Street. Uh these are in district 8. Councilwoman, would you like a staff presentation? >> I don't think there's anyone here. >> All right, we will open the public hearing. Uh we do have on behalf of the applicant. Uh we've represented for the applicant. Do you have any comments? Wonderful. Uh, great, >> beautiful speech. Uh, we'll close the public hearing. I do want to recognize, uh, the applicants, Jeff BS, uh, with the Kraton Community Foundation, who has worked so hard, and this is a creative way to help support our young people. Uh, you've been a great partner for us on so many things, including recently making sure people get healthy food. So, a big congratulations to Jeff and and thank you for being a a great community leader. Councilwoman, >> thank you. Mayor, I also wanted to echo the comp compliments to the um the applicant in in putting forth a worthy project. I guess I was like, let's just cut to the chase. >> So, motion to approve the item per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related resolution. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Haj Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. GGO. >> Yes. >> Passes 8 Z >> 98. Councilwoman Hud Washington. >> Thank you, Mayor. A motion to approve per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related ordinance. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Roll call. >> Ernnandez, >> yes. >> Hudge Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes eight zero. >> And thank you to the legal adviserss who also helped make that possible. This was definitely a a good team effort. Item 99 is uh related to the Arcadia Motor Club PUD. And Councilman Robinson, do we need a staff report on this? >> No staff report. >> Wonderful. Each side will have 10 minutes and the applicant can reserve time at the end um for a final comment. Uh if one speaks during the present 10-minute presentation, then we will not call on you later for the two-minute presentation. And we will uh begin with Mike. Mike Marowitz on behalf of the applicant. Uh good afternoon, mayor, council members, for your records. Mike Marowitz with the law firm of Snell and Wilmer at one East Washington Street here in Phoenix. Thank you. and I'm here on behalf of uh Goind Industrial who is the developer of the condominium car storage development that is or is associated with this uh PUB. We have a recommendation of approval from both the Kbeck East Village planning committee as well as the planning commission. We have staff support. Uh we also have uh the support of our uh most impacted neighbor, our closest neighbor. That's the owner of the apartments that you can see on this screen that forms our western and southern boundaries. Um and uh so for that reason, I'm not going to spend time with a prolonged presentation going through the details of this project. Uh but Mr. Whitell, who uh submitted the appeal, um is is here. He raised a concern that this property should instead be developed with with multif family. Um the current owners of this property uh who are selling it to my client originally purchased it with the plan to develop multif family on the property uh but they were unable to do so uh because of the site constraints that this property faces. It's a very small and narrow property as you can see on the screen there. But also more importantly the the market challenges. Um it was a project that just didn't pencil out to build multif family. And so to speak to that in more detail, I have with me that I'm going to call up here to the podium, uh, Jeff Seaman. Jeff is one of the co-owners of the property that purchased it with the intent to develop multif family. He is also a commercial real estate broker at at JL and he's one of the leading uh, brokers of of multif family. So, he's certainly qualified to speak to the market challenges that that were faced when attempting to develop it. Uh, may or may I call up uh, Jeff to to speak? >> Please do. Thank you. Thank you, council members. Uh, as Mike mentioned, we bought this site four years ago. I'm a multif family broker. Been in the business for 20 years here in Phoenix. My focus has always been multifamily. I love the product. I like working in housing and I make a living in that space. So, when we bought this this site, our full intent was to build build an apartment building on it. As we dug in four years ago, the market fundamentals started to switch. Interest rates started to rise. Construction costs started to rise and challenging challenges in the fundamentals of the marketplace with rents and demand and occupancy started to become a little bit more of a hindrance to us being able to build an apartment property here. We fought through it for a number of years, waited for things to transition. During that time, Phoenix delivered 55,000 new apartment units in the last two years. Historically, that average is about 8,000 units a year. So, we had a lot of product entered the market at the same time, which also hindered fundamentals and and affected the the fiscal ability for this project to work. Now, if you just look at the site, when fundamentals are good, this site, we could figure it out. I would imagine it which is why we bought it in the first place. But when you look at where we're at today, it's midb block. It's a small acre and a half site. We don't have amenities in the neighborhood. So we'd have to put the amenities on property. Uh so we just can't get the density to justify building housing units on on the property. Um, I think that's that's about about it quite frankly. We'll keep it short there and I'll reserve the rest of the time for for rebuttal. But with that, we respectfully request your your approval in accordance with the recommendation of staff uh, subject to the stipulations recommended by staff. >> Wonderful. And I guess while you're there, maybe a question for Jeff. you approached the neighbor to the south and west who was not interested in doing additional expanding the project that surrounds you? >> No. And and to that point, the building next door to the east was actually foreclosed due to market fundamentals and the demand in the rental market. Um so they don't have the capacity or the the the capital to build. >> Okay. And is it the same owner to the east and the west? >> No, two separate owners. >> Okay. But you neither of them could do this project. >> No. >> Thank you. All right. Um Larry, uh um on behalf of the appellant. >> Oh, we have I'm sorry. Councilman Hernandez has a question. Larry, I'm sorry. Give us one second. Councilman Hernandez has a >> Thank you, mayor. Sorry. The last statement you made kind of caught me. Um you just said that you don't have the justification the density. Sorry. You said you don't have the justification for the density to build housing there. Is that can you elaborate a little bit on what you're mean what you mean by that? >> Yeah, his historically this building was a medical office but it was on an R5 zoning site which made makes sense for for us to buy it and try to build multif family there. In order to justify a project to have it make sense in today's market fundamentals and spend the money, invest the money in that area, we'd have to do a much larger project. So we need more than 50 60 units um to justify it >> and that's with including amenities >> very very minimal amenities but yes >> okay all right thank you >> thank you for your patience Larry the floor is yours >> my pleasure thank you very much Larry Whitell 7120 North 20th Street co-chair of the Peak Neighborhood association as well as I'm going to introduce Jackie. >> Jackie maybe if you want to sit by mic the clicker is here. She is my my tech assistant because I >> I have reorganized this presentation based on um information that I have learned recently. So my slides are out of order. I'm going to ask her to try to to work with me on that. So thank you for allowing her to participate. So, I'm the co-chair of the Peak Neighborhood Association as well as uh a member of Camelback East. So, I want to recap what has occurred so far. Camelback East did approve. The the planning commission did approve, but it was very unusual. There was a motion to deny and it was tied four to four. The chair broke the tie by saying, "I'm really torn on this." Oh, we should still be on the first slide. Um, it should be the opening slide. Oh, that's the first slide. There we go. Um, she said, "I'm really torn on this, but I'm going to vote no to deny." And then, of course, a motion was made to approve. Again, it was tied and she broke the tie. very unusual for the planning commission to have that kind of vote on a on a reasonzoning case. So, um that's really the reason I wanted to have you hear it because it was so close at the planning commission. This is a very unusual PUD request. Most PUD requests are by housing developers who want to expand their um their possibilities through higher density, less parking and so forth and request a PUD so they can build a superior product. This is not that kind of a case. This is a case of a property owner, an industrial developer who is requesting a PUD who bought a property that is zoned for residential and commercial but wants to change the zoning because they don't build housing. I'm curious about the person who just spoke because the owner of the property is go industrial and I'll tell you about their background in a little bit. So over the past few years, the city council has really been focusing on several um slide two please on several important initiatives. This is an example and one of those is housing of course and homelessness. And this is an example. This is from the city website housing uh division about the the recent cases that you have been dealing with TAS that you've passed and so forth that hope to increase housing opportunities and uh next slide please. >> From the village planning committee must cons >> No, I'm sorry. This should be slide 11. really focused doing what is >> this is where we're way way out of sync with the PowerPoint. So slide 11 is a comparison lot. There's been uh testimony today that the lot is not suitable for development as housing. Now keep in mind this is our our five. So it doesn't have to just be housing. It can also be commercial commercial uses. So there should be uh 11 slide 11. Yep. No, one more. There we go. This is comparison. This is the property next door that is supportive of this PUB. And um it's showing that they have 58 uh one and twobedroom units ranging in size from 493 to 748 ft. two stories high. This is the s very same configuration as the subject site. Now, Mr. Marabowitz may say, "Well, the property next door is really larger." That's true, but I'm only showing you the dimensions of the lot that they have housing developed on that are identical to the dimensions of the new lot they or the the vacant lot. They may also say, "Well, this is an old property. It was developed under different market conditions." That's true. And so before the new owner bought this lot, they should have calculated the new market conditions and whether housing on this was viable before they bought the lot. That's not a problem that you need to solve. Uh slide number 13, please. So I did calculations of what this property could look like using the very same dimensions of the garages that they are proposing. They have 20 units, one story, uh, ground floor, um, of garage space, 1,250 ft. They have enough height for a second story. They got to add a,250 ft living space. They have six units that are um, garages, ground floor, second floor. They could add another 980 uh, square ft of six unit spaces. They also have a clubhouse. It could be a wreck room, an amenity space. They also if are proposing 32 feet, these could easily be three stories. So those units could actually double in size in living space. And by right, they could be building 52 units according to the calculations. And they could also ask for of course increased density like a normal PUD would. So I don't think the site is at all constricted. if they can build garages on the site, they can certainly build houses on the site in the number that they would need to make a pencil out. So, the proposed project, well, they didn't bring up the proposed project, so I'm going to skip the uh the previous project. Um, that was allocation partners. I don't know if the gentleman who spoke is allocation partners or not. That's a previous owner that that couldn't make this pencil out. We're going to go to slide 16, please. And that's the um go industrial slide. Uh I'm running out of time. So let's look at the business model of the applicant. Nope, you're you're at 19. We need to go back. That's it. Um so Goind Industrial is an industrial development company. They don't do housing. They never intended to do housing. They do industrial development. this they have a project and this is slide 14 no slide 17 if you can go to it. Um they have a project currently under construction at 35th Street and University a large warehouse that would be industrialzoned that would be perfect for this kind of a project. This is an industrialzone project not a residential or commercial limited commercial project. They talk about return on investment. Um return on investment is a moving target. They should calculate return on investment before they ever buy the property based on what they intend to do. And my speculation is they intended to build a garage garages which is in their you know their business model that they do rather than than uh housing. So, um, before they bought the property, they should have calculated the risk in getting reszoning so that they could build a smaller version of what they already do. And here they are now asking you to back their risk. What if their risk doesn't pay off? It's up to the It is not up to the city to cover their bet by approving reasonzoning. A smart business person would have a plan B. And in fact, Mr. Mr. Marowitz at the planning commission said if this PUD were to never be approved doesn't mean it will become housing. There are many R5 uses that would likely pencil. So he admits that the developer could use the site as an R5 without any reasonzoning and it then leaves the options open for future redevelopment as housing if the market conditions change. But a PUD locks it in. They they would have to go back through an entire resoning process in order to change a PUD back to something else. So this whole idea that it doesn't pencil out or it's impossible for this developer to do this project to do a project on this site really just doesn't make sense. And their other option then would be to sell the property to someone who develops housing rather than industrial building. So I have a comparison chart. We probably won't have a chance to get to it. Uh unless I can get a couple more minutes uh because of the reorganization of the slides. Uh and if if not, I understand. Um, your your decision really is a matter of prioritizing housing over uh a luxury garage for 26 homeowners. It's a community need for housing rather than luxury car storage. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um, we have uh one speaker, so you want to reserve your time till after that or >> Oh, sure. >> Uh, no, I'm sorry. We have two. Uh, Wendell is next, followed by Jackie. >> Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you, >> council members. My name is Wendell Hill and I am a resident and property owner in the local neighborhood directly behind the proposed uh development. I oppose the development of the car storage facility because it's incompatible with the needs, character, and economic reality of our community. I urge the city to deny approval for the following reasons. Number one, lack of community benefit and mismatch with neighborhood needs. The proposed car storage facility serves no fundamental purpose for the local residents in my neighborhood, many of whom live on modest incomes and do not own luxury high-end vehicles, nor have a need to store them. Number two, negative impact on livability and safety. The proposed scars car storage facility will increase traffic congestion, noise, lightning pollution to the neighborhood. High-V value vehicles may attract unwanted attention or crime, diminishing the sense of safety and otherwise peaceful neighborhood. Number three, incompatible with residential zoning and urban planning. The proposed car storage facility is incompatible with the residential zoning and contradicts Phoenix vision for inclusive community first development. Number four, missed opportunity for inclusive development. The site would be better utilized by a neighborhood park, small grocery store, community center, park, um, affordable housing, or other development that can serve the local community. And number five, there's no clear economic or employment benefit. The proposed car storage is a low job creating operation offering no local employment with minimal tax benefit and no benefit to the local community. Thank you. >> Thank you. Jackie is next. Um, good afternoon, Mayor Ggo and members of the council. I was at the legislature frequently last year monitoring housing legislation and I heard legislators say again and again that that they were legislating housing because the cities weren't prioritizing it um at their level and so this legislature thought they had to step in. As a result, we had a number of bills that were passed over the last few years that were one-sizefits-all that overrode local control and basically um created solutions that are even now starting to cause problems without solving any of the housing issues that we've had. I'm concerned that this um decision today is not just about a single site. It's really about housing policy. What is more important? Promoting housing or removing a site where we have the potential for highdensity housing and instead using it for something a nonhousing use. Um, so I really encourage you to consider this as a policy move and to vote in favor of housing today. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Uh, Mike Could I have my presentation on the slide, please? Thank you. Uh, mayor, council members, additional housing in the city of Phoenix is incredibly important, including, uh, multif family housing, and we should certainly encourage that. Uh you you will have certainly seen our firm bring forth uh many zoning cases in front of this uh city council for additional housing. We had one uh just before this uh that brought many housing units. That should be encouraged. Uh but not all properties that can that are zoned for multif family development can actually practically be developed with additional housing. Uh this is a site as you heard from uh Jeff Seaman, one of the the co-owners that uh because of the market challenges, they purchased it with the intent to build multif family and it didn't pencil out. They couldn't finance it and it wasn't economically feasible. There was a concern raised or an issue raised that well the applicant should have known before they purchased it. Uh just to be very clear, the applicant go industrial does not currently own the property. They are looking to purchase it uh from the current owner uh which includes uh Jeff Jeff Seaman there. So they are a new developer uh that is interest to purchase it with the development that that actually uh works on this property. In addition to the market challenges that that Jeff uh spoke to, um I also want to address uh what uh the challenges the site constraints that make multif family so so difficult. So you heard the market conditions uh one of which being there's already a a lot of housing on this property. This would be a unique situation. You have apartments to the west on the two properties to the west as well as apartments already to the east. So this would be a situation where if housing could actually be developed here, you'd have four properties all adjacent to each other with housing. You almost never see that sort of density uh in the city of Phoenix. And that's if the the site could actually accommodate it. But that speaks to part of the market challenges. In terms of the site constraints, what I have on the screen is the site plan for this development. Uh these are 26 uh condominium car storage units on the property. Each one is 25 by 50 in size. So that is just over 1,200 ft² about the size that you would anticipate for a town home uh style development. Uh and you can see the only other improvements we have on on this site because of its constraints are we have a driveway and then a hammerhead for adequate turnaround and only one parking space because that's all that is required for this development. If you were to build housing, not only would you need at least these units here, 26 units, um you would also need appropriate parking and guest parking to park it, you would need the same site turnaround. You'd have to have at least two amenities. You'd have to have 5% uh open space. And when you factor all that in, there just isn't enough density that could practicably be developed where any uh developer uh beyond just a market conditions would would be able to financially do it. That's why you had a property owner that acquired it and unfortunately didn't pencil and and sold it. And so ultimately what approval of this PUD will do is will accommodate the development of a highquality development uh that will bring a significant investment to this this vacant property. These condominium units will be for sale and the uh average anticipated sale price is just over $800,000. It's a development that can actually be built on the property. It's also a very quiet and and dormage use. It's it's a storage use. And when you have property that is surrounded by apartments, uh that is a good use that is compatible with with neighbors, very low traffic generating use. In fact, it's one of the most dormant in terms of traffic generation as you can find for a commercial use. And it has support uh from from that most impacted neighbor as shown by uh the support letter that's included in in the case file. And so with that, again, we respectfully uh request your your approval in accordance with the recommendation of both the Kalebeck East Village Planning Committee and the Planning Commission subject to uh the stipulations proposed by staff. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Stark. >> Yeah. A quick question. How long has this uh property been vacant? Do you know per chance? >> Uh Mayor uh Councilwoman Stark, it's been vacant for four years. And have other people looked at it and tried to pursue the R5 and just haven't been You may not know this, but I'm just wondering if you know the history of it. >> Mayor Councilwoman Stark for that. I've actually like Jeff is not only one of the co-owners because he's a broker. I' I'd like him to to address that on on conversations they may have had with others that that could develop it differently. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah, we we looked at a v variety of different plans to do housing on the site and again it it just wasn't a feasible project for for us and and other groups that have looked at it as well. There's probably three or four different groups that throughout that period of four years that came to the table. >> Okay. And and look looking back at the site plan really quickly again. You said each unit was 1200 square feet. >> U Mayor Councilwoman Stark, each unit is 1,250 square ft uh 25 by 50. >> Okay. Yeah. I actually live in a in a development about that size and and you're right, you need parking. You need additional parking for visitors. You also because of the type of service delivery like trash trucks, you have to have the appropriate turnaround. So you have some real constraints if you were to make this into a project like mine. So I appreciate that you tried to look at it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. >> Counciloman Hernandez. >> Thank you, Mayor. uh just have a few questions and maybe I don't know if staff or you want to take this but um when you say when you speak to the feasibility of the project to be housing is that analysis based on what we require as a city right like you just mentioned certain amenities that are required um a number of parking spots right per unit all the parking minimums that we require as a city um is that are you speaking to that side of the feasibility Um, and can staff give me the exact requirements of this um of the current zoning? >> Sure, Mayor, Councilwoman Hernandez. Um, what I was referring to in terms of the the 5% open space, uh, two amenities, turnaround, those are all what I understand to be the requirements under Phoenix's zoning ordinance if you're to develop multif family under the property's R5 zoning. So, I'll turn it to staff to address that. Mayor, members of the council, R5 zoning is around 45 unit 45 units per acre max. You're looking at about one and a half to two uh spa parking spaces per unit, 5% open space is just some of the highlights of the zoning requirements on the site. >> Okay. Thank you. Um and I kind of want to mention a comment that a previous speaker made about state state legislation, right? And this is a great example of why the state runs zoning reform legislation because now we are saying we can't pencil out a a housing project because cities have strict requirements on one to two parking spots per unit. Right? I'm sure there's a ton of residents that in this I'm familiar with the area that might not need all that parking space, right? and a project could pencil out if our requirements were more flexible as a city. Um, while I recognize that the city has done an amazing job on delivering apartments ahead of time of the goal of 2050, there is still a great need for housing, right? And and I understand the concerns um from the one of the co-owners, you know, that you've mentioned. Um, but it's really hard to say, well, this isn't going to work out. And part of the reason it's not going to work out is because of our own regulations we have instituted, right? And it all connects, which is why the state goes and moves on legislation because of barriers like this. So, um, okay. Thank you for that clarification. >> Councilman Robinson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, a couple really quick questions. Josh, if I can call on you. It was mentioned about the PUD. If this were not to go through, um, can you explain that a little bit? Are we already I mean, if we vote yes on this for this PUD and it doesn't pan out for whatever reason, can we still then go back to residential if there is somebody who wishes to do so? Mayor, Councilman Robinson, yes, the the PUB is written in a way that it's the self- storage use is allowed, but it retains the rights to all the existing R5 uses, including the R5 residential uses up to 45 units an acre. >> Okay, thank you very much. Um, I have a question also with regard to can we clarify the ownership portion of it? I know um and Larry Larry Witzell does an exceptional job on these things. you know, he I mean, if you want to understand something and understand it completely, you go to Larry. We do in our office. So, um, can you explain a little bit or give me some clarification on who the owners are, the the whole ownership process or who's in involved? >> Sure. Uh, Mayor, Council Member Robinson, first, I completely echo your sentiments about uh Mr. Whitell. Um, he certainly does does his homework. Uh, in in this case, uh, the there are two individuals that are the owners. I'm going to have Jeff creep up here to say the entity name, but in addition uh to Jeff Seaman, his partner uh Nathan Reed, and it's escaping me, the entity that's associated with are are the two co-owners. And so Jeff, do you want to add to to the ownership piece? And and they are under contract currently to sell it to my client, uh Goind Industrial. >> Yeah, currently ownership group is is three members. One is a groundup development fund that was specifically put together for multifamily development, quite frankly. um myself and and just a contingent of friends and family investors. So, two two GPS control the myself and Nathan Reed. >> And the property has been marketed for multi-ousing, multif family housing. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Councilwoman Hudge Washington. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um just a follow up to Councilwoman Robinson's question. Um, in the previous comments, it was indicated that it had been looked at for housing to three or four different groups, but it didn't pencil out. I'm just curious, do we have a num a number of how many units the parcel itself can support in comparison to how many units the parcel needs to actually pencil. >> Original plan called for, I believe, 56 units, and that was surface park to keep it an efficient construction cost and build. Uh currently I don't believe the density would just like any sort of density given the construction costs would justify putting housing on the site. Um you know we could >> So am I hearing it correctly that it's um 56 units is what you think the parcel can support but we don't believe that that actually works. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah, >> Councilman Robinson. Thank you, mayor. Um, you know, there's been a great deal of discussion today with regard to the need for housing, and I'm all for that. You know, we look for it all the time in council district 6, which is, you know, honestly, it's it's difficult to do. However, and I had to get permission from the um the zoning attorney and the developer on this particular issue, less than a half mile away, west on Thomas Road. We've been discussing with a developer and the zoning attorney and they plan on moving forward with it a affordable lowincome housing multifamily housing project that would be about three stories 65 to 70 units and is literally just right down the road. So it's a much larger lot. There are some issues they're trying to work through. We're going to work with them. I'm asking Josh and his folks to work with them the best we possibly can because I too agree that we need to look for any opportunity we can to add housing to um to the city. So that's going on. Hopefully we'll have a lot more to talk about in the coming months on that particular project. This one, you know, based on all that I am hearing, all that I have heard, it would be difficult. We don't have a buyer right now that would necessarily look for a way to put um multifamily housing on that particular property. So, I'm sorry. I thought someone was asking me a question. Oh. Um, and as Josh mentioned, even if this is a this item is approved today, the R5 zoning standards would remain with the property as a uh as part of the PUD, which means that should a future if this didn't come to fruition, a future developer who wants to put multifamily housing, if they could, they could. Um, so mayor, I would like to make a motion. >> Great. >> At this point, >> close the public hearing. >> Thank you. Thank you, mayor. I I would like to make a motion to approve item 99 per the planning commission's recommendation and adopt the related ordinances. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Roll call. >> And none. >> Mayor, may I explain my vote? >> Please do. >> Thank you. Um, I will vote to support this only on the fact that the underlying R5 designation would remain even if the PUD is approved. Um, but I would caution the the representative for the client um to be mindful when you in comments that would ever suggest that having four uh apartment buildings next to each other would be an issue anywhere in the city of Phoenix. Um, we are in a moment where we need as much housing as we can at every single income level. Um, and that should be a goal that we're working while we figure out and sometimes that means getting creative and finding creative ways to make projects pencil out. Um, so in addition with the comments from council member Robinson that there is another project being worked on down the road. Um, and that there is still an option to for this site to be housing in the future if this current situation doesn't um, pan out. Um, I will support it, but just wanted to make sure I I I make those comments. Um, but I vote yes. >> Hodge Washington, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing O'Brien, >> yes. >> Diego, >> yes. >> Passes 8 Z. [Music] >> Wonderful. Thank you. That concludes the agenda portion of our meeting and I'll turn to our city attorney to introduce the final portion. >> Thank you, mayor. During citizen comment, members of the public may speak to the city council for up to three minutes on issues of interest or concern. However, the matters addressed must be within the jurisdiction of the Phoenix City Council and on which the council has the authority to act. The citizen comment session is limited to 30 minutes. The Arizona open meeting law allows the city council to listen to comments but prohibits council members from discussing or acting on the issues presented. However, council members may respond to criticism. Thank you. Thank you so much. We'll begin with Leonard Clark, followed by Tony Harris. >> Thank you, mayor and council members. Right now, I'm not currently a citizen of Phoenix, but I was born right down the street. I'll probably move back someday, but uh I'm just asking I think this is within the jurisdiction of the city of Phoenix that you could take a vote, maybe go into executive session to support uh our secretary of state who's trying to protect not just Phoenix but Phoenix as well, the citizens votes from being sent away to the Department of Justice who demands in violation of the 10th Amendment to the United States Constitution to know our voting record. Okay. And I also ask you, I think you should vote to make it clear that any of our citizens who are shot or who are harmed by ICE be tried under the full extent of the law. None of our I ask within your jurisdiction to make sure that our law enforcement are protecting our citizens because what happened today in Minneapolis and is happening across the country should not happen as well to the citizens of Phoenix. Okay? These are not law enforcement. They are private militia. This must stop. I ask you to protect the citizens of Phoenix and take a vote. Take a vote that they must not cover their faces anymore. Thank you. Thank you. Tony is next, followed by David. >> Uh, thank you, Mayor and City Council. I'm with Fund for Empowerment Homeless Advocacy Group. Um yeah, I'm hearing that um they might be closing the SOS lot by the cast and um that there's the there's bad conditions there and um with uh sinks and um toilets and showers not working that good. Well, um if it does close, um those people are not going to have nowhere else to go. They can go back to the zone area and then the tents can end up going back up again and they can uh it could be another clash with the security that's in the area where they they were um taking people's belongings out of their tents and their surrounding areas and and um throwing them away in some instances and their personal belongings could be lost like and it's a pain to have to replace stuff like birth certificates, social security cards and you know IDs and um also and I I've seen some and tents are starting to go up already in different parts of central Phoenix, even up on Bell Road, and it should be um a way to get housing to these people. And um also with um with this new city law where um you're giving um no warnings to people that are jaywalking um on something like that. They can end up if you're living from check to check like most people are, you know, they can end up losing their uh their place if they have one as well. Also the with the u skyrocketing rocketing rental prices and uh this year starting where the health insurance premiums are going to skyrocket. probably it would be better to you know give a warning first before you give a citation. So uh thank you. >> Thank you for that testimony and maybe uh Councilman Hernandez. >> Yeah, thank you. Um can staff connect with the resident on the SOS? Thank you. >> Yeah, thank you. There's important information on that. That good idea. David is next, followed by Elizabeth. >> Oh, thank you, council members. Thank you, mayor. Um, I'm a resident at at the SOS and um it was part of what happened in the zone. What little we have is all we have. To take that away is to take away our everything. With that said, the SOS lot provides a huge service, a huge service to the community as well as to the homeless. It currently shelters over 250 people, providing three meals a day for those people and keeping those people off the streets and out of the public's eye. It's not my desire nor my intention to have the SOAP shut down. the problems and the issues currently there can and should be budgeted for. Today I want to focus on the sanitation issues on the lot. There are restrooms on campus, but not enough and nor are they properly located. It's approximately one quarter of a mile from my tent location to the restrooms. That's a major problem for many who are here, especially late at night. More restrooms should be placed near the X-wing buildings. If you don't know what those are, that's where we house most of our handicapped. Um, they they should be placed on the backside as well where we reside closer. They need to be properly cleaned more often with disinfectants and or bleach. They are disgusting. The running There is running water for hand washing, but not inside the restrooms. The water has been turned off, the valves removed. There's no hand sanitizer, soap, or paper towels with which to wash and dry our hands anywhere on campus. There are only two handicap bathrooms for 50 or more people in wheelchairs. We need more accommodations for these people. Six showers are all the showers that are there. It is not enough and they are in worse condition than the restrooms. The fake grass and turf where the dog run is is not cleaned. It's been powerwashed three times since I've been there since September 2024. No chemicals were used at any of those times, just water. The feces and smell is making animals and people sick. It's right next to the outdoor tables where we sit and smoke. Power washing it with the proper chemicals a few times a week would prevent further health concerns. The turf where the tents are located has never been cleaned up. Animals and humans have accidents on the way to their respective restrooms. Goes without saying. Spraying disinfectants and shop vacuuming would greatly improve conditions if done regularly. The day room is our dining area as well as our only relief from the elements. It's cleaned two times a week and closed during those times providing no relief. Accidents happen. Animals and people make messes, get sick and what have you. Using def disinfectants andor bleach to clean which should be done daily. Uh, thank you for that important testimony. We appreciate it. Elizabeth will be our final speaker. >> Oh, and Diane Barker, I'm sorry. Elizabeth and then Diane Barker. Okay, so I'm going to finish this real quick. Um, three. Okay. Um, let's see. Um, sorry. the dining area. Um, it's closed two times a week and it's clean two times a week and closed during those times. Accidents happen. Animals and people make mess and uh get sick and what have you. Using disinfectant and or bleach to clean should be done daily. There's one water dispenser for all of this. The filter uh within days of clean is not good for drinking 80% of the time. uh you could budget for more filters. You could provide more bottled water and um meet hydration needs and then just sanitation in general. And um anyways, he wanted me to finish it off. So um I wanted to say I mean a long time ago and even now I'm not a big fan of the SOS law in terms of a long-term solution to homelessness, right? Well, primarily I would say because of the heat is my my main concern. Um because it does like damage organs way earlier than you would think. You know, around 103 108. Um but I think that it's really important to uh consider the actual effects of um not keeping that facility open. um because um also because you have some costs already into it and you've already created the facility. So the main reason I would say to not keep it open to keep it open is um there's a couple of them. One would be because um there are certain populations that can be housed in the SOS lot that are not housable in um some of the other facilities through the city of Phoenix for a variety of reasons including certain types of criminal convictions um and also certain types of sub substance use and um with the uh the surrounding businesses um for uh Brown v city of Phoenix. Um, Bill Morland came out and he said, you know, it's also not his favorite solution either, right? Because of the limitations of the of the site. But Bill Morland said that he'd also prefer to have the SOS lot to keep out uh to keep people inside with some form of amenities and so they don't go out into the surrounding neighborhoods. And and obviously the zone may not get built up to the same extent that it was built up before. But these it doesn't matter if it's concentrated in one place or dispersed throughout the city. Although people do suffer actually more when they're dispersed away from resources. But um I think that you know even if it sounds big to have like $8 million I'm sorry like to me $8 million on a municipal scale is not that much money especially when you get that one one um cost savings or probably similar based on the lack of success in terms of placements you know. So, I would just recommend that you um keep the SOS slot open um and also work to, you know, obviously make it a better facility. Especially while you don't have federal funds. >> Thank you. Diane will be our final speaker. [Music] >> Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. I'm Diane Barker. I'm in district 7 now downtown for a dozen years. I've lived in the valley over half of my life in seven different cities, but mainly Phoenix. And I wanted to support Lenny Clark and what he was saying driving downtown and how he's had some problems with people, I guess, racing or maybe, you know, him feeling uncomfortable driving downtown. Uh, we have chaos. I've talked to the police department about this. Um, we have a noise. It's state law, county ordinance, city ordinances about decibels and why I am really really um seeing chaos is what follows the pop and bang cars. Now, we've apparently accepted this in our society. I saw you in the parade mirror and in that parade there were these muscle pop and bang cars. Now, I grew up in a time where Mustang Sally and all of this, but it's gotten worse. It's illegal to even have these tuners do this. The government can go after tuners. They can go after the decibels. After 11:00, the decibels level of noise is supposed to go in half. And the city knows this. Apparently, it's not very high on the patrol level to fight noise pollution, but what it what it follows is a lot of chaos, destruction, and crime. Uh, a woman that runs major uh luxury pro property management told me today they've had people move out because of the downtown noise. I supported Devany in the 5 million the city gave to the downtown Phoenix partnership and a lot of it was not only for helping out bicycle patrol but also these new luxury buildings because this pop and bang that's around the Roosevelt you know area and it's become 247. Uh this isn't good because when we have people trying to move in and have jobs downtown uh it's very bad to have disruptive sleep and when this happens at random you know at one or two in the morning that is disruptive. So it's a health issue. It's uh also uh a signal by allowing this is that you can allow other crime. We're lawless downtown. Now you know I really think that people want pop and bang and so let's build a racetrack for these people way out and they can pay to pop and bang and race and actually risk their lives. Thank you. That in concludes public comment. We have entitled more than 300 housing units today and we are adjourned. Hey y'all. Um, I just want to thank