City Council 8-16-22

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this oh uh oh thank you um thank you good morning this is the meeting of the el paso city council for tuesday august 16 2022 it is now 902 am present and presiding is mayor lisa and also president in council chambers we have representative zanello molinar she's walking in hernandez rodriguez rivera and lisa representative schwartzbein has requested to be excused and now it will everyone please silence their electronic devices so as not to do so it's not to disturb the meeting and rise for the invocation delivered by el paso chaplin and sun valley baptist pastor dennis kaufman mr kaufman thank you pleasure for me to be here and if you would bow with me we'll have a word of prayer heavenly father i thank you for this opportunity to pray for this city council and i pray that you would be with each member here to give them wisdom and guidance as they direct our our city and that we might continue to do what would be pleasing to you that you would protect us and guide us and lead us in your will and again i pray that you'd be at these members that you would give them the special wisdom and understanding that they need the father that should protect each one to watch over them and their families thank you that you are in control of all things and i pray again that you bless this meeting in a special way and watch over them and guide them and thank you for your love and your grace and your mercy in jesus name amen amen mr center will you please lead us in the pledge of allegiance sir pledge allegiance to the fight in the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you sir and um i want to welcome everyone here i know we have um a lot of students and you know we're going to talk about the great football game the 915. so you know today um i want to kind of talk a little bit about the youth of our our city and our country we we've always talked about this and that the future always depends on the youth and every time we have a proclamation or anything that has to do with youth we look and we see how bright the future is of el paso when we look at uh the utep football team and the utep sporting events that come that is brought to our community we get to see the youth again and we get to see the youth that will someday be the future not only of el paso but also the youth of our country so today i i want to really have a moment of silence to think about the youth think about how in great hands our city and our country is and i want to wish of course uh utep a uh a lot of uh success and that no one gets hurt during the you know coming season and also you know the teams that are here today represented uh for for our school eastwood isleta i want to being here but also uh to continue to rep thank you dan the first proclamation is utep 915 representative sergio good morning good morning thank you mayor this is my honor to read this proclamation i am a proud graduate of utep whereas the city of el paso recognizes that the university of texas at el paso minors have entertained fans in this community for over a century and whereas this year is the 75th anniversary of the introduction of the 915 area code that identifies el paso and whereas the university of texas at el paso athletic department has launched a 915 campaign to embrace and engage the el paso community while generating interest and excitement for the sun city's longest running and most iconic team the miners and whereas the university of texas at el paso football team is opening its season against the university of north texas in the sun bowl on this day uh it's blank which is next saturday i believe august uh 27th august 27th at 7 pm at symbols stadium now therefore be it proclaimed by the mayor and the council of the city of el paso that august 27 2022 shall be known as utep 915-day i'm center you um you want to say a few words i know first thing you're going to say is go miners you stole my thunder i know that's what i thought i'd uh thank you to each of you he does it all the time let me just say first of all thank you to each of you for your service and uh and your leadership i know you have really difficult jobs we're very very appreciative of what you do and realize there's a lot of sacrifice in serving uh but thank you to each one of you and uh we're very very proud uh to have this uh august 27th date uh named in in the 915 day in the proclamation very excited and i was just thinking as mayor lisa opened up and talked about youth in the in the future we serve all constituents but predominantly colleges are full of young people just like elementary junior high middle schools and high schools are and we have a tremendous opportunity to help forge young people's lives through athletics whether it doesn't matter at what level right whether you're talking about the littlest kids to the oldest kids that are in college we have a profound impact and i know this if we had more kids that were playing sports and engaged in competitive athletics across america would have fewer problems because we know what athletics and competition and healthy lifetime sports do for young people and and you can carry it throughout your life so i just want to say thank you very much we're very very excited about the 915 campaign it embraces and encompasses all of our sports at utep and it's really a celebration of all sports in all the student athletes across all levels in the 915 area code so thank you very much go miners there you go thank you thank you and i know that our city employees and a lot of the team members here are very excited to support the miners and go for first shell out since 2008 how's that going it's going great so we're going to be a sellout well we'll have so far we'll have what uh 6 600 um city uh team members that will be attending the game so we're excited to be there to support and cheer the miners and with that then yeah oh no it was uh you know i've i've done a lot of things in in um in my life that i've been able to support uh and donate to and you know giving back to the city employees was probably one of the most heartwarming things that i've had the opportunity to do they uh when they came in and got the tickets the the cards and and the thank yous that we've gotten uh weren't needed but i can tell you that they were very excited to be part of something big and supportive and being together on august 27th so thank you and with that the next proclamation is adaptive cyclers plus day and then i just want to add that representative saxido joined us at 904 am adaptive cyclers plus day thank you proclamation of city of el paso texas whereas founded by mike osborne a disabled veteran after visiting an out-of-town adaptive sports camp adaptive cyclers plus acp began as an informal group of adaptive cyclists of all ages and all disabilities in 2017. and whereas the group continued to meet together regularly for rides at various locations around el paso texas and in 2019 acp became a 501c3 nonprofit organization serving people with disabilities throughout adaptive sports and whereas acp provides information training and hosts competitive and recreational adaptive sports events and adaptive cycling and other adaptive sports such as boscia peak pickleball and horseshoes and whereas acp realized adaptive cycles were not covered under any applicable ordnance codes the organization worked with the state legislatures and the el paso city government in changing the bicycle definition to recognize adaptive cycles under the applicable codes and whereas the city of el paso congratulates mike mike osborne and adaptive cyclers plus for enriching the quality of life of people with disabilities through competitive and recreational adaptive sports in el paso and in the border region now therefore be proclaimed by the mayor and the city council that august 16 2022 shall be known as adaptive cyclers plus day signed by honorable mayor oscar leaser mr osborne thank you mayor and city council good morning good morning sir again mayor and city council thank you for recognizing adaptive cyclers plus you always have an open invitation to come ride adaptee cycles we've got an event going on right now too so i'm never slowing down thank you very much thank you your name sir mike osborne thank you [Applause] and next proclamation is el ferro grande day proclamation i got it okay proclamation city of el paso texas whereas grande is an award-winning local spirits company that represents and embodies our region the unique bottle design pays homage to the el paso and juarez region and whereas the story of el pero grande begins with a special spirited dog that at times can be a little rebellious and viewed by many as an underdog a big hearted courageous dog that followed a bright star on the south side of the franklin mountains and found home in the welcoming and beautiful city of el paso texas whereas this august 2022 el paso grande will launch in el paso and will work to become one of the nation's largest spirits brands headquartered in the el paso region and whereas the city of el paso plays a vital and critical role in supporting the success of all local businesses in our community now therefore be a proclaimed by the mayor and the council of the city of el paso that august 16 2022 shall be known as el pero grande de signed the honorable oscar leaser mayor city of el paso mr johnson you know it's always um nice to recognize and see a company that's a startup company that is in el paso and from el paso and from el pasoans and you know i know that we we talk about that el paso is 80 small business and that we need to continue to support our small businesses and this is the a perfect example of somebody with a vision that's uh been here uh wants to start up a company and really and and i got to i had the honor and the presentation that you've shown me your your product and it's an incredible product and and i'm looking forward to watching it grow and be a huge part of el paso well thank you and good morning everyone and thank you mayor and city council for the el pero grande resolution that you gave us today we really appreciate it uh three years ago we started off with a dream to start a tequila company here in el paso and we have finally got it launched and last week we've been very busy uh we've been already given back to our community we supported the el paso humane society event that was last saturday we recently supported a golf tournament up at coronado called canyon capers so we have been very actively involved in supporting our community with this brand it's taken a lot of hard work to get to where we're at and i would love to show you what our bottle looks like and why we it's an award-winning tequila it has already won two awards and it's not even out in el paso yet it's worn silver from the san francisco spirit awards which is a testament to how good the tequila actually is we've gotten a ton of interest not only from our el paso community which is where it will only be launched first but we've received a lot of interest from as far as uh miami and south beach to california so we think we have something that's going to make el paso very proud and we're excited to to share that with you i'll show you uh this is our one of our bottles and on the bottle as you can see it's uh it's it's small but mighty well you show our friends that are out there i think they'd love to see that bottle oh sure so it's small but mighty and uh on one of the arms we have of course the 915. on the back of the bottle we have the star that's on our mountain our franklin mountains el chuco and texas forever on this arm it says bienvenidos with our sister city of juarez so we think that this bottle uh uh and the detail that we put into this really represents el paso and i look forward to when you guys could be at a bar outside of el paso and see it on the shelf and say hey let me tell you about el pero grande but we thank you guys and it's going to take a a village to move this company forward and and i consider el paso uh the community my village so thank you guys very much for this resolution and we're going to make you proud thank you thank you your name for the record sir renard johnson thank you [Applause] mr mayor we're going to move on to the consent agenda all matters listed under the consent agenda will be considered by city council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless separate discussion is requested ma'am can we take photographs we're going to do um we have um okay dinah i want to move up before we do that we have uh three proclamations that so we can break one time so i'm going to go ahead and take the proclamations first we we're going to take the vote for the consent and then they're the first three items on the regular agenda that way we wouldn't that's fine that's fine right after that we'll break and we'll take the three proclamations yes is that okay yeah go ahead um she thinks she's in charge but we're okay that's okay i'm so sorry and will be enacted by my by one motion unless separate discussion is requested by council members prior to the vote members of the audience may ask questions regarding items on the consent agenda when the vote has been taken if an item has not been called out for separate discussion the item will be approved council may however reconsider any item at any time during the meeting can i get them we do have some revisions alternate mayor pretend good morning thank you i moved to approve the consent agenda with the following revisions page four item nine postpone four weeks per capital improvement department and we also will be request adding two item number two the excusal of representative uh short spine okay so i have a second second go ahead i believe representative rivera you have some revisions yes just for the record items uh 19 and 20 to move up after they are they're the first items from the regular agenda motion made by representative by alternate mayor pro temply zaraga seconded by representative rivera and the vote is open [Music] representative rivera thank you and the consent agenda has been approved unanimously now the first item on page seven is the discussion in action on a resolution that the city of el paso recognizes eastwood high school senior alex alexis montes for finishing second at the usmc usaw junior and cadet national championships in fargo north dakota and wishes her a successful last wrestling season as a trooper this is item 19. representative rivera thank you mayor proud again here and you said it earlier to honor the youth of el paso who have proven this house time and time again and this is just one more example of it and i hope utep's looking strongly at this let me read the resolution as was written whereas in february 2021 eastwood high school wrestler alexis montes one of el paso's top female wrestlers lost her father moroni montes to covenanting complications and now uses her late father as an extra motivation to continue to do great things and whereas on april 10 2021 as a sophomore alexis montes led the eastwood troopers to a district 1 6 8 championship and whereas alexis who is now a senior at eastwood high school missed her junior season as she recovered from surgery on both knees and was cleared to wrestle in may 2022 and whereas alexis finished second at the usmc usa w junior and cadet national championships held from july 15 2022 july 15 through the 22nd 2022 in fargo north north dakota and whereas alexis went 5-1 at the tournament which included a semi-final win against isabella marie gonzalez of california and whereas montes was part of a texas team which finished fifth overall whereas taking the loss to juliana diaz of florida in the championship match alexis says she is using the experience to continue moving forward and finish her high school career on a strong note and whereas the national tournament in fargo north north dakota alex alexis received three college offers to wrestle now therefore be resolved by the city council of the city of el paso that the city of el paso recognizes eastwood high school senior alexis montes for finishing second at usmc usa w junior and cadet national championships in fargo north dakota and wishes her a successful last wrestling season as a trooper i believe alexis thank you mayor thank you city council could you state your name yes uh i'm troy douglas uh girls coach at eastwood thank you representative rivera for the invite um on behalf of myself in the eastwood coaching staff alexis mother is here alexis congratulations i always tell her it's just the beginning of great things to come i don't think we've ever had anyone from el paso be a fargo finalist before and so it's she's uh making history left and right and we thank you all and uh just the beginning for her thank you thank you um hello thank you for the recognition it makes me feel more reassured that my hard work and dedication is finally paying off and this is only the beginning i've been out battling surgeries grief and to come back and finish second not what i wanted but i will become a national champion in college so multiple times hopefully so that's the plan thank you for recognizing real part you're welcome mama where are you going to college i i'm i want i'm wanting to go to iowa state but i also have jim center's right behind you by the way if you want to talk to him that's why i told him to look no pressure listen would be great to give a college education and experience more would be great thank you and as you as uh it's been said before if if you dream in your dream big dreams can always come true and i think it's a perfect example congratulations congratulations ms montes you want to say something yes just thank you for recognizing her um she's been working hard she's been battling a lot of things mentally emotionally physically and i'm glad she's pulled through i'm very proud of her i know she came back with a second but i was proud of her seeing her on the screen it was amazing to see her and there's many more things to come hold on hold on coach you're going to see more of her thank you thank you you're welcome and mayor just said mayor just to conclude that we will present alexis with a little something from the city council city of council the city council of the city of el paso recognizes alexis montes and finishing second at the usmc usaw junior cup junior and cadet national championships in fargo north dakota congratulations and best of luck on your final season wrestling in eastern congratulations [Applause] oh i'm sorry made by representative rivera seconded by representative rodriguez to approve the resolution voting is open the motion has been approved unanimously thank you thank you [Applause] and we'll take item 20 now yes sir next item is discussion item 20. discussion and action on the resolution that the city of el paso celebrates the month of august as isleta high school 95th anniversary month in honor and commemoration of isleta high school's 95th year serving el paso's mission valley representative thank you mayor this is a second honor for district 7 to present to you to a school that has been around for 95 years and this year is a big year right so let me read the resolution as it's stated whereas isleta high school was established in 1927 as isleta independent school district's first high school and whereas this year marks the 95th year that isleta high school has been serving el paso's mission rally and where tens of thousands of students have walked through the doors of the indian country and whereas several local public figures and elected officials have graduated from isleta high school including former county judge alicia archicon former state senator tati santiago el paso county district clerk norma favela barcelo philanthropist woody esteban el paso county district clerk i'm sorry philanthropist woody woody hunt i'm sorry artist bobby fuller fox jukebox anchor mike guerrero news anchor erica castillo tv personality floor guerrero county commissioner carlos leon former nba basketball player rafael palomeras former city council eddie olguin radio personality armando medina former green bay packers player jesse whitton fallen el paso police officer department officer david ortiz former isler independence trustee marty reyes former el paso county commissioner tayana choset county court at law number seven judge ruben morales former isleta del sol governor alberto alvides and carlo carlos former city councilman and private investigator j.j arms and many others who have contributed to the el paso community and whereas isleta high school was named at a texas education agency tea exemplary school in 2017 and 2019 and whereas in 2017 on their 90th anniversary isleta high school opened the sledder high school early college academy and whereas easter high school night is a high school's 95th school year commenced on august 1st 2022 and whereas the 95th anniversary of isleta high school serves as a reminder to all students that alumni that once an indian always an indian now therefore it be resolved by the city council of the city of el paso that the city of el paso celebrates the month of august as isleta high school 95th anniversary month in honor to commemorate of isleta's 95th year serving el paso mission valley thank you i moved here i moved to approve before i forget there's a motion made by representative rivera to approve and seconded by representative rodriguez the voting has started and the resolution has been approved unanimously thank you council thank you are you going to speak esteem council we'd like to thank you i am judith calderon i'm the principal in chief of isleta high school we're very proud of our 95 years of history and that we are the pride of the lower valley i represent a lot of passionate educators and children who have matriculated through our campuses through our campus we are very proud to represent hashtag 95 in the 915 this year so once in indian always an indian so just something from the council as well if you want to wait a second uh the city council city el paso recognizes soda high school's 95th anniversary month in honor of the commemoration of the easter high school's 95th year serving the el paso mission valley thank you [Applause] next item is item 21 and this is discussion in action to recognize the santos family and the fox plaza food city market staff customers and customers for the impact they have made since 1972 on past and future generations of el paso citizens representative manila thank you mayor i know the families here i don't know if they want to come up but i just wanted to say i know i'm new to the area and it's an honor to be able to recognize y'all i know the food king has been a staple in this community i know you've worked with representative heard on this for a long time and and you have done so much for the community we've heard from from a lot of constituents um and we want to just recognize a moment to recognize y'all and the work that you do and the impact that you did make on the south side for uh since 1964. um so with that i will read the resolution so whereas in 1964 jose santos began his legacy in the grocery business by founding his first store at la rancho mart on south stanton street and soon extended his service throughout the el paso community through the opening of food city supermarket across the city and whereas the fox plaza food city supermarket became a landmark in the south central neighborhood providing quality merchandise and homemade food while ownership imparted on its customers a sense of home and comfort and whereas three generations of family businesses and the employees created an environment that welcomed all who walked through the doors of the store spreading an el paso warmth with the kind gestures they shared and their attentiveness to people and whereas the santos family and their grocery store poured their never ending generosity or out into the community giving to local churches public schools and city organizations on numerous occasions exhibiting their love for el paso's people in their effort to continually help others and whereas in august 2022 the fox plaza food city supermarket plans on closing its doors after serving el paso for 50 years leaving its influence in the hearts of those it gave to now therefore be it resolved that the city council of el paso one recognizes the santos family in the fox plaza food city supermarket for the impact they have made since 1972 on past and future generations of el paso citizens and two recognizes the staff of the business for their hard work throughout the years in devotion to establish a store that served to continuously be of benefit for those it served three recognizes the customers for their support of the south center location and prolonging the difference it made in the community cementing the store's legacy in el paso now therefore be proclaimed this approved resolution on the 16th day of august 2022. congratulations i'll make a motion to approve you know congratulations and um you know i had the the honor media when i was running profits back in 2013 and sitting there in your office and not only just talking to multiple generations and and that's what really family businesses are about and you know the talk about uh you know the service you provide for the area but also for the community and giving back to the community it's uh it's really amazing and and uh i i really enjoyed the opportunity to meet you but really meet the family and what family is about so you know we talked a little bit about you know starting a business in el paso and uh you know our small business and continue to grow you all are really the dream of what el paso um business people want to be and become and it's incredible and and like i said you know seeing the the brothers sisters cousins parents grandparents and also the kids and and the involvement also within the community was uh really what uh really familia and family's about and you all are you know if i could look it up the definition of family or familia in the dictionary i know i'd see your family there so thank you and congratulations thank you mayor my name is stanley santos i'm the president of food city and um we're so honored to be here with all of you and thank you to all of the representatives here president thank you for your service to our community thank you representative vanello and i'd also like to thank ana dominguez from who's also from the community in in fox plaza first of all i'd like to thank our parents for taking uh having the courage and taking a chance in 1964 and opening a little store on south staten street 5 000 square feet and my father had a wonderful legacy of service not only to to this community but to our state and and to the nation he uh was an advisor to three governors several mayors two presidents and he really gave us a foundation of and a legacy of giving and we're so thankful to all the outpouring and the heartwarming messages we've received from people all over the city that we never knew shopped with us so many memories that they've shared growing up obviously leaving the community and going to other parts of the city but it's been very sad but it's also been very heartwarming to see so many people reach out to us and that's been very uplifting for us and the gentleman that was here renard i believe is his name yes sir with the tequila keep fighting don't ever give up and uh much success to you and to all the family businesses in el paso um el paso needs family businesses we'll still have two other stores but our health and our age caught up with us and we really needed to downsize so we're going to put all our energy into our other two locations uh do some remodeling and still serve this community we love el paso we love what we do and we're also grateful to the thousands of employees that have uh worked in in that store the fox plaza store over the last 50 years and um and thank you for this wonderful opportunity to be recognized and i also would like to thank anna dominguez i know she would probably like to say a few words so thank you thank you city council members thank you good morning city council members and mayor our message in regards to the valverde community fox plus a community is i am a long time resident of alberta community which is the clary fox area and this is the message that i'd like to convey to the to the family now that they're here present words are not enough to describe our sadness regarding your departure from our neighborhood community you will be sorely missed as you have been a wonderful landmark for our neighborhood your store has been characterized by the excellent customer service and personal touch from the top management to your cashiers etc your generosity and cooperation in numerous community projects has impacted past and future generations of those of us who are proud of residing in this caring barrio we wish you and the food city fox plaza family continued success present are some of the entities that have been the re the lucky recipients of the generosity of the family luz herrera the president of the aoa alumni association uh is present word also went out to the father guillermo sisters the servants of the sacred heart and of the poor who have also been recipients and so many other numerous numerous individuals and organizations that have benefited from the generosity of this family thank you to the city council and in particular to the office of city representative anilo for such a wonderful proclamation honoring this jose santos family and the food city fox plus a location their employees and us their customers thank you so much thank you and i just want to ask you one question ma'am yes are you going to miss the long lines for the minute on saturday well that's a double-edged sword over here i will i will tell you that besides the excellent product you know their food their their vegetables and their meat department and so forth we will miss the family because they were always on hands and they were always accessible and responsive to the community that's what we're going to miss the most but we hope that we will continue to partner with them in our dreams as one of the city council said to continue to dream we are very grateful i am very grateful i have had personal experience where they have helped me in in very large projects that have benefited the city youth over over 5 000 children through the nursing home and assisted living christmas stocking project which was a program that was for eight years they provided the toys and so forth so we're going to miss them but thank you so much for acknowledging the family because they are too modest they are too modest but it is a well-deserved recognition thank you so much thank you thank you again representative molinar followed by representatives good morning uh to the santos family don't leave yet i just want to let you know my name is joe molinard i represent the district 4 in northeast el paso and i want to say it very loud and clear that i'm very proud to be one of your customers i drove from the northeast to your store okay to the deli i'd buy vegetables just like what the young lady said uh different products but the most best part was those costias de borrego you can't get them anywhere else in el paso thank you very much for our heartfelt thank you from the molinar family to your family thank you thank you so much representative and and also thank you um i also want to recognize uh carlos larry who sits on the city board you all have been such a great a great partner in all of our events but i do have some very important business um mayor if i can ask the question what you all are not getting rid of the tortillas right okay where where is the torterria going to be now because i'm telling you the ranch line is my store um we're hoping it's there's in stock all the time there uh we're actually making um we're we've just got a space next to our store and we're fixing to get that our kitchen and our tortilla operation is going to move into that space and we're going to open up the wall so that you can actually see the people making the tortillas and cooking the carnitas and and the borrego and all that good stuff so uh yeah no they're not going away that's exciting my mom literally makes me chase tortillas every weekend i wish i was lying but this is what i do i chase your tortillas if i can't find my ranch line i'm going to fox plaza um they they are really important to our menu in our household so thank you all for what you do a staple in this community we're going to miss you in the fox plaza area but we look forward to seeing the growth in the other two stories yes congratulations thank you thank you thank you and mr sanchez one last comment that i know when i was running for office in 2013 um i went out and wanted to get your support and and you called me in your office and before you would even endorse me support me or give me any money i had to meet every one of your family members and they had to agree that i would be the best candidate and it was a family decision and that's what's important again and we talk about family and so i had the opportunity to meet everybody from your father to your the son nephews and everyone else and and it was a decision that it wasn't just for one person it was something that was best for the family and so i i i'll never forget that that uh you know it's always been about family and our in our community so thank you thank you mayor and i i just want to take the opportunity because now you mentioned that for us to have survived nearly 60 years 50 there and also since 1964. if to survive as a family business you really have to die to self and and work together you know we're in our third generation and you can't do it you know autocratically people have to buy in the family has to buy in and you have to agree that doesn't mean that every decision is made by committee but you have to make the important decisions together and so we're very very grateful that we've been able to do that for nearly 60 years so thank you thank you mayor thank you may god bless you and your family god bless you all thank you take care uh representative rivera i'm sorry thank you mayor don't leave yet because i want to thank you also having grown up in the neighborhood having attended easter i mean and seriously i still think it's better having attended henderson uh and as there i know when you first opened up having walked in with my mother and smelling that fresh bread and everything else was really delicious and just made you hungrier but listen let me tell you what i i believe what you said about about the family being modest is i know and i i i live to see it your store beat out two major chains and i don't know what the third one is right now but i remember it was a safe a piggly wiggly to begin with and then a safe way and you beat him out i believe there's been uh seven previous well uh operators in the building our competitor next door to us that's why i said after safeway and and and there was another one right there's safeway first two versions of furs big eights and i just cooking and you could you could just stand at the corner and look at both sides of the street and there was food city always standing thank you thank you so much for everything thank you very much thank you all of you again can i say something yes ma'am um i wanted to thank you today my name is luc herrera and i'm the president of the aoi alumni association and i wanted to let you all know that every thanksgiving mr lowry gave us our project for thanksgiving is providing 30 food baskets including the turkey the pumpkin pie vegetables everything that is needed for a family to sit down and be grateful and um food city was there for us and um so now we're going to miss you we're going to have to find somebody else no you don't you just call us okay that's excellent i'm glad i came and i said something because i was gonna start and see where i could find somebody else but his generosity um has gone beyond because he's touched children and children are our future and um i just wanted to thank you for that you're very welcome thank you mr roberta thank you and nice to see you thank you all again thank you very much we have a motion for research a motion to approve by representatives i already voted on it anello seconded by representative hernandez and the voting is open and it has been approved unanimously now we can get a motion all those in favor hi so if we could go ahead and take the photograph in the back in front of the mayor's photo wall we'll start with the utep 915 day followed by the adaptive cyclers the el el perro grande alexis montes isleta high school and then fox plaza so if we can get utep 915 day if we can get the proclamations as well hmm dana can we call start with mass transit yes sir this is a special meeting if i can get a reset a motion to reach motion to reconvene oh well no no because we're going to go to mass transit yes so we'll go to mass transit now yes this is a special meeting of the el paso transit mass transit department board for tuesday august 16 2022 it is 1008 am present and presiding is board chair lisa also present in council chambers is board members anelo hernandez molinar salcido rodriguez rivera and lisarega board member schwartzbein is requesting to be excused and we do have some members of the public who signed up to speak if we could take that now the first person is francisca grajeda ms grajeda are you here and she has requested she she will be speaking in spanish so the request to translate came very late so we have a member of city clerk's office who will be translated [Music] good morning mayor council my name is francisco rajera i am part of el paso desert adapt group we fight for the rights of people with disabilities in el paso thank you i would like to uh complain about the service that sun metro uh lift has been providing the services the services provided is not good for people with disabilities or so whenever they get a ride from sun metro lift it takes them over an hour to get to their doctor's appointment or they're usually always late for their appointments anything a doctor dialysis because the service is so bad that they're always arriving late in buenos and now during the summer heat they're riding in the buses and sometimes the buses doesn't even don't even have an ac work a working ac in the unit we didn't have the service for neither sun metro nor for regular buses nor lyft uh here in el paso cortana and of course this limited their uh their independence and freedom on on sundays they couldn't leave their houses nosotros in march we had a meeting with mr beto o'rourke and they were not able to attend due to not being able to take the service from the lift and mr o'rourke wouldn't believe that there was no service for them on that day el senor voyager said he would talk to the mayor about this but she replied to him that there was that he was actually no in knowledge of the situation that there was no transportation for the people on sundays but it is very limited there's also no uber accessible accessible for uh for people with disabilities either here in el paso porque and that is we're asking for the community to know and for you to do something about the situations because they're cutting off their freedom and their liberties at this point so in may we took a trip to washington dc and i spoke to mr alexis alexis arrieta and advised him that we would be coming back to el paso around 11 00 p.m today would be waiting for them however it takes a long time for the chairs to come down for them to get their luggage so they ended up getting off the plane at 11 30 pm nosotros and he assured me that they would be waiting for for us to be to be picked up however they didn't even wait for 15 minutes they left right away unabandoned is next person is josue rodriguez followed by mark salazar ruben fernandez ruben montoya in guadalupe azar i don't see mr rodriguez mr rodriguez i don't see him mr salazar i don't know let me see mr rodriguez you have three minutes no this uh mr salazar hi i'm mark salazar good morning everybody good morning sir um i'm here today uh joining my my friends from desert adapt and group dignitaries to express our concerns about the lift i i decided to come today because i was advised not to believe it or not two very strong advocates in the community and for people with disabilities one said don't bother complaining they don't have enough buses it's not going to do you any good and this is a person who's a very strong advocate if i mentioned his name i know you all would know him but he's always advocating and saying no participation no progress and i was astounded astounded that someone like that would say don't bother another advocate said she had had problems with the lift every day of the week and she had complained every day of the week and she said don't bother complaining because they don't do anything the complaints go nowhere they don't respond to the complaints so i'm here today because i am complaining i am not going to stay silent when people are suffering uh uh terrible service when the lift has declined in the quality of service since since covet began and and afterwards when it's been recovering but i i'm not going to stay silent i believe you all need to hear the complaints and you all need to hear that things need to be rectified you've probably heard the horror stories of people being left for hours waiting for their pickup stranded sometimes people with disabilities people who are quadriplegic people who have uh just come out of dialysis hours on end sometimes two or three hours and not have not getting their pickup this is unexcusable this is unacceptable this is dangerous and this is putting the lift sun metro in terrible terrible light it has to be rectified we cannot tolerate this anymore any longer you know before covid i remember uh mr perez was giving presentations about the lyft and how they were coming up with new programs incentivizing better service incentivizing less complaints incentivizing people to to resolve complaints to have on time service to have to to have quality service and mr salazar your three minutes are up thank you for your comments we need to go back to those incentives and improve thank you sir thank you mr rodriguez i see you on the queue start six to one mute yourself mr josue rodriguez are you there can you hear me yes we can hear you now you have three minutes all right thank you thank you uh good afternoon mayor city council uh thank you for your uh for the opportunity to speak on this issue um and mr salazar have expressed a lot of the concerns that we've been having and that we've been hearing in the community about the inadequate service that sun metrolift is providing um for for for passengers not only sun metro lift but also the fixed route system which inadvertently affects the paris transit or sun metro lift there's been cuts and routes in services especially on sundays i'm glad that we have some uh some of the sunday service back but inevitably um there are areas that do not receive service from the fixed route on sundays and then well obviously that affects paratransit as well uh at first they were uh telling people to actually go to a certain location to be able to be picked up um but then we we had a conversation with uh sun metro and uh found out that they weren't supposed to be doing that um the what i wanna let you all know is that there are this is infringing on the independence of people with disabilities we understand the reasoning or the excuse that was given to cut services in sun metro during the pandemic was because there was covet going on and they wanted to stop the spread of the virus by cutting down service on sunday which never made sense to me since then it's been downhill we have gotten repeated complaints of being of people being left behind of people being picked up three hours four hours later than their original pickup people have been even been accused of calling and canceling their own rights when we talk with these individuals and try to mediate between them and sun metro they they affirm with us that they did not call the lift to do those types of changes and it's it's just a whole mess on the way that they're delivering service i'm i understand that yes there needs to be more funds for transportation for buses but there are things that sun metro can already do and this we have brought it up before uh they're scheduling i mean come on uh if they schedule someone at least be honest with us be honest with us and tell them tell us that you know what we can we can pick you up but it'll be three hours later than what we're then what we're um you're expecting to be picked up from then we can make the mr rodriguez your three minutes are up thank you for your comments all right thank you the next person is ruben fernandez followed by ruben montoya and ms guadalupe azar who will be virtual uh good morning sir i'm here to get that now this is the important way for everybody and i had to be only as you know i got my house i got a bus but i will have to wake up a bird that's going to give me answers i know i got i live but i'll have to come and vote my husband's family here because of this we will have to come and they are joy did they left working but because then i wanted to be expanded you you will not foreign but our answer to tell you right now is that bus is not good service maybe as you get my answers they don't carry that and business we will have to get the list working right and your hand was very good so i want to be a foreign [Music] thank you your three minutes are up next person mr ruben montoya mr montoya you have three minutes i'm gonna take my match off yes sir well they may have problems uh my friends who are heard not now talking to you he had to go to walmart all day and over here and uh libra in his wheelchair and something me afraid so i got me a foreign how you know they don't hear me that rabbit what do you call it what happened to him you know they're picking up all day they ain't wishing for that you know why didn't i have bosses on sunday and my sister taught me oh me doesn't pick me up you don't want to get to pick me up get somewhere that can be america may 10 there are no bosses on sunday all day and we say you know what all day and what that my brother got lucky enough you know and what happened her tummy i meant to not pick up and maybe to meet you there and go see your brother and miss out thank you see what i can do nicole like you know that nobody go see my brother and me say you know he got locked in up and hard for me to go see him and you know and muscular my should say something that take me and me want to go by myself what you feel to do about that we want i mean you want to ask a question what if you do about it you know i mean man the embossing with the top and nine o'clock and red boss now the top the seminar like seven o'clock at 8 40. you know they went to stop at nine o'clock and now that that's up early you know there's no waiting for that they're not wishing for that people you know for you if you have family sorry may not bring nobody down you have family you want to go see your dad your mom or sonny you know sorry and you know you know when my friend were here he wanted to go after he family he wanted to go see he bought it there ain't no bosses you know that no bosses you know come on people you know you have to clean about that you go see your family that owner from the city bosses have her go see her family you know that man they're getting in their hands you know i meant like getting out and signing had to be bosses on sunday you know i may not have bought your own that's sick i mean i may have to walk somewhere i will be saying you know me my friend wanted to go out that guy who were here me he wanted to go out with me tap on sunday you know something he wake up late mr montoya thank you ma'am thank you very much sir and last person is guadalupe azar miss azar starts six to one mute yourself i see you on the queue miss wada lupaser are you there star six to unmute yourself miss azar press star 6 to unmute yourself so that you can comment for san metro mayor should should i continue i i see her on the queue but i can't get her to okay well thank you we'll move on all matters listed under the consent agenda will be considered by mass transit department board to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless separate discussion is requested by board members prior to the vote members of the audience may ask questions regarding items on the consent agenda when the vote has been taken if an item has not been called out for a separate discussion the item has been approved the mass transit department board may however reconsider any item at any time during the meeting motion to approve second there's a motion made by rep by board member rivera seconded by board member salcido to approve voting's open it has been approved unanimously guadalupe you're gonna have three minutes to speak yes we can hear you really appreciate it sorry i was unable to unknow that i'm so sorry good morning everybody um i've been hearing all the complaints and i'm part of it as well i'm also an adapter and a bo member and i work i'm late four times a week to my job i've been having problems with obviously my boss saying that i can be late anymore if not they're gonna let me go and this is because of the lift they don't have no transportation available no of drivers like ruben said it's not fair that they caught it on sundays either because we do have a life you guys have a life you have a car where you can go come we cannot have that or we don't have it and if we have it we don't have nobody to drive it so i really appreciate if they could do something on this issue we needed more buses i know they brought some i already ride one of them they're nice bosses uh they if they need drivers come on hire more drivers there's plenty of people wanting to work but they are so strict that if they slam the door they fire them so they're not looking in our needs they are not taking care of business i i don't want to get fired it's difficult for us to find a job and i'm late four times a week i don't have anything else to say i just appreciate your time thank you mayor i hope you guys can do something about it and we look forward god bless everybody thank you thank you thank you next item is item number three it is the public hearing on the proposed budget for the mass transit department of the city of el paso sun metro filed by the city manager with the city clerk on july 14 2022 which begins on september 1st 2022 and ends on august 31st 2023 the public hearing is open at 10 34 a.m say that again nobody has signed up to speak anyone like to speak oh yes i do i have jose rodriguez who signed up to speak mr rodriguez he wasn't here earlier for public comment no he was on he was on mr rodriguez are you on the line start six to unmute yourself mr rodriguez you wanted to comment on the sun metro budget mr rodriguez we can't hear you but i do see you on the queue mr rodriguez start six to unmute yourself and we'll continue the public hearing mr josue rodriguez you wanted to comment on item three for sun metro i see you on the queue press star six to unmute yourself okay no he he's no longer on the cube okay thank you is there a presentation that's there no presentation yes for the to close the public hearing yes ma'am so moved okay i a motion to close the public hearing at 10 36 a.m and postpone the final vote on the budget until august 23rd 2022. second mayor we are able to ask questions about the budget or do we wait to the 23rd so i was going to recommend that we take item 38 on the regular agenda when we conclude this and i do have a brief presentation we can go through right does it is it focused on some metro it's primarily focused on all things we've talked about like we can have ellen smith give a presentation on your highlight so what's including the budget for some metro if you'll like or should we do that now i could do i can ask the questions during your budget presentation right if i may interrupt i think i see mr rodriguez on on the line mr rodriguez are you there would you still like to comment on the sun metro budget star six to one mute yourself mr rodriguez i guess not okay i know that i had uh representative wanted to ask and then i told her hello there he is you have three minutes sir yes thank you uh one one of the concerns that i want to bring up uh in regards to the budget for the transit is we need investment in betterment of services uh in maintenance of vehicles hiring of more drivers doing all the extra uh things to make the city look good per se is great and it's good for quality of life as people like saying but you need to also focus on quality of life is not just being able to get to to uh certain areas of the city quality quality of life means reliable transportation accessible transportation on-time transportation and we i really want to strongly recommend and encourage that if possible the there'd be an increase in the budget for sun metro but uh that this that these funds be directed at improving services and and performance uh overall not only on the sun metro live but also on uh the fixed route and on customer service uh better tr on scheduling better training for schedulers overall the budget needs to be improved for the transit system um and hopefully and i just that's all i have to say and i also wanted to take a time to thank you all for accommodating this assad earlier um early on on the call thank you thank you sir appreciate that and with that we go to represent raniello thank you um ellen i see you're on the call uh just for the edification of the individuals that are here and have taken their time to speak about the lyft service can you highlight in the budget any if there are any improvements or investments that you are making to lift with the 2023 budget uh yes ma'am so we have money program for new lift vehicles uh replace lift bus wash we're always it is a contract with mv and i know they have recently raised their wages for their driver as well as we're looking at raising the wages for the mechanics so all that's programmed into the budget and it though as you know the supply chain our delivery of new units is extremely extremely slow so we are really having to you know limp our old vehicles along and some we do have to take out a service completely they're just not adequate so but it will get better as soon as some of these vehicles start being delivered and are you saying that the the shortage of lyft the the new policies which we're hearing some complaints about the the no sunday service for lyft those are all because of shortage of vehicles no no we the the lift runs on sunday as well we run the same route the same areas as the regular bus what the complaints are is because it's limited sunday service with just the brios we don't run into some of the more excluded neighborhoods um so there have we have data we keep a log of the people we have to deny sunday service and so far in total i think we've denied eight requests so it's just a tiny fraction but we don't because it's limited sunday service it's also limited sunday lift i'm sorry i'm miss mike i'm a little concerned i know that you're saying eight individuals is not many but eight individuals who rely on the lift who are possibly physically disabled that's you know that's really detrimental um to i think what one of our callers said their quality of life um so if you could please share that data with council and i guess i'm just i'm really trying to understand how we we're moving forward what is the cause for the limited sunday lift service um what is the cause for the delay that individuals are facing with the lyft service and what i'm hearing from you and i just want to clarify is currently at this time a limited amount of vehicles well we have a limited amount of vehicles at the lift and we also have a limited amount of drivers for the sunday service so there there are two different concurrent issues going on there um but what i explained during the budget hearing a couple weeks ago was that the demands are to increase of the streetcar service to increase the sunday service and to increase the lift service and so um one of the main focus right now is the montana brio i'm hiring drivers to launch that and so that's a top priority because of the federal funding it's a request we have to launch we it's required to launch this year so you know we pushed it to november 6 to almost the very end of the year as far as we possibly can we're recruiting drivers as fast as we can and but until we get that one stepped up we can't put more drivers on sunday regular boats the lift mirrors the regular bus and that's that's the the fta um it's a complimentary service it's not separate different more bigger better it's the same well and and i've been very uh public about how i feel about the policy of of dropping individuals from the lift off at bus stops i think it can be problematic but we're talking about the budget here so i'll focus on that again just for the edification of the members of the public who came here and took the time out of their day to speak about something that they're so passionate about i know both the city and sun metro were awarded federal dollars in response to the coveted pandemic in the form of arpa funds i'm not entirely sure what other funds sun metro received if you could clarify what those dollars are being spent on the arpa money was spent the first year was on for employees many of them stayed home on on what do we call it limited shifts so they would stay home four days and work three days to limit their exposure so a lot of the original money was spent on employees on their stay at home pay and then um the second year we moved we spent money of course all the whole time on the safety provisions with the thermometers and the the cleaning and the spraying that we would clean the buses twice a day um and so much of that that original money and now going forward the money is being dedicated to new units that's exactly what we're using it for but again we haven't gotten been successful on the delivery okay um thank you mr spice for that clarification i i do just want to say i think that uh recognizing that individuals who use the lift and individuals who have physical disabilities who rely on services like the lyft to get to doctor's appointments to get to work should be a focus of this council in the city we're making sure that we are supporting members in this community who rely specifically on this service to be able to and again i think it was a great point to enhance their quality of life because we talk about quality of life a lot and for some individuals that is public transportation and so i just want to make sure that we are doing everything that we can with this budget i know there was a conversation that i missed yesterday about a surplus i know that we have federal dollars in arpa funds whether they went to the city or sun metro that could be enhancing this for individuals if the issue is only vehicles and we're dealing with supply chain i understand that um but when we talk about drivers what we're paying our drivers it's a conversation we had at our last council meeting we need to be doing everything we can to be making sure that these services are going above and beyond for our individuals so thank you very much mayor thank you representative hernandez thank you mrs smythe um i wanted to take the opportunity to ask questions now um since we were on the budget discussion um just looking at the budget resolution i just want to reiterate and highlight some of the the things that i saw there as it relates to sun metro employees um will they be um will they have the new per hour effective rate yes wages yes okay and then uh that goes into effect in september 11th and then um starting in march of 2023 what will be the wage it'll be an additional 50 cents an hour so that first pay period is september it's 50 cents an hour a minimum of at least 1.25 percent depending upon how much you make but at least 50 cents an hour beginning in march that first full pay period will be an additional 50 cents an hour and so that's increasing our minimum wage overall by about nine percent next fiscal year okay so increase wages which applies to metro as well i just i'm trying to unders because lyft is a vendor so will they what would the wages be do you know for drivers ellen do you know the wages for the lyft drivers i don't know i'm off the top of my head but i can get them for you the only thing i want to reiterate is that the the provider lift should have comparable if not better wages um in order to you know so we're not uh poaching um staff from from one other but if i can get that information at a later time as it relates to the driver's license if they have that commercial are they still eligible for the annual this competition still includes not only their base pay so not only are we doing the additional dollar an hour next year as far as compensation increase but we did last year start doing the two years ago the 90 per pay period additional incentive for those positions that require a commercial driver's license so all the bus drivers our sanitation drivers anything that requires a cdl license for their job specification they do receive that additional incentive as well and we need to continue to be aggressive you heard ill and talk about one of the things we're working on now is looking at the paper mechanics and so not only looking at what we're doing as far as the compensation for all the employees but also looking at those hard to fill are those positions we're experiencing high turnover so the mechanics are one of those areas can you explain the eligible eligibility for the 350 dollar annual payment for employees accident-free driving it's an entire safety policy that i could forward to you um it's got various you know if you don't have any accidents or then you get reset back and start over um so i can send it to you so um drivers who are accident-free are eligible for an annual stipend payment for for taking safety seriously is that correct exactly yes yes understood um on item 27 of the budget resolution it talks about a fiscal year allocation of five thousand dollars not to exceed five thousand dollars um this is for free transit service passes can you explain what the intent of this item is the total value of all free transit service passes provided under the program during fiscal year 2023 should not exceed five thousand dollars ellen do you want to speak to that one yeah can you hear me yes can you hear me yes i can hear you we we partner with the veteran associations for free rides for those who are transitioning out of the military and we give them up to three months of free passes and so this is just a set aside funding to be able to help with our partners in the military okay understood thank you um and then the restriction on 10 days for holidays and events do you have a list for fiscal year 2023 on when those 10 days will have free rights no city council can set whichever 10 days they would like for it to be free okay things that come to mind is dia de los ninos the summer ride free the uh general election days um i i know that it's listed for schedule b there's 98 documents here i haven't been able to siphon through but if if you can send me schedule b i was trying to access it a minute ago finally there is a well a couple of things there is a capital budget uh just under 10 million dollars i see a million dollars for paratransit replacement can you explain that at paratransit replacement 1 million fiscal year 23. is this what we're expecting in december the additional lift buses or is this a separate allocation for uh just ongoing maintenance [Music] ellen you have a bad service alan ellen you're gonna have to repeat that i'm sorry i think you're you're you're experiencing connectivity issues mrs smith miss smith are you there we can't hear you keeps breaking up so in our budget conversation can you also be prepared since we're having technical difficulties explain what that one million dollars per transit replacement is that new or is it for deferred maintenance separately the list for fees i see two changes i'd like to highlight on what those changes are i see a senior weekly pass increase of a dollar and i see shelter rates and parking rates i haven't seen before i also see a disabled fare of 50 cents that i didn't see for the previous um year so senior weekly passes disabled fare shelter rates parking rates thank you thank you before did you see that one million dollars for the paratransit schedule a capital um there's a allocation of 9.6 million um on that list i'm just trying to understand uh what the fleet replacement or deferred maintenance will be i'd like to see schedule b and then the and the schedule b mass transit fair and fees get okay i found it schedule b um on schedule b i see increases uh okay i just would like i just want to highlight the changes i want to highlight the changes and being clear to the public on what changes we can expect with this budget and so with that capital ellen mentioned it with the capital what they have is the largest increase in their budget is utilizing those federal dollars that they did receive as part of the arpa when we say arpa arpa there was many different buckets of funding that came through arpa so this was particularly from the fta force and metro so they're using most of those dollars for fleet replacement whether it's on the left or on regular transit replacement thank you robert simonette thank you mayor um ellen so when a coach operator starts their tour of duty are they limited to a certain amount of hours that they can drive or operate a motor vehicle under federal law [Music] can you hear me can you hear me we can hear you okay sorry um we start them at their regular 40 hours and we allow up to the 10 hours a week overtime but we don't really like them driving more than 50 hours a week okay and do you have any coach operators i know they have it required to have a cdl but do you have any coach operators that are cross-trained to operate the lift bus um no that because the lift is a contract okay our coach operators switch between the regular fixed buses the brio and the streetcar all right thank you ma'am thank you and with that um we do have a motion to close i was just going to ask if there is any additional public comment start six to one mute yourself or come up to the podium before we actually if you don't mind making that motion again so that we can close the public comment with the new time yes ma'am a motion to close the public hearing at 10 55 a.m and postpone the final vote on the game give me one second okay oh sorry are you gonna comment okay state your name for the record and you have three minutes morning ruben you know what's heard the answer or crashing or the bosses on the weekend on that on sunday honey after that crashing on that i want to across it now you know i don't have to wait for the big shot night the big bosses that we all who didn't you know i mean uh i heard that people hurt people over time you know that that don't make no sense you know let me tell you for me we were here and they have no loop oh they don't have to qualify let me tell you you're my friend you run over you didn't have to be a folk you think you could be a phone come on people wake up got me telling you we heard to tell you that people you know you have to tell her oh the amino you got your point all day and i had no time you you know boston on the weekend like sunday you know it bouncing between your four he buys you with the stuff and down the clock the red boxes are they mr my friend has to go to walmart you know anything happens that may be hurtful i make sure i give me a door turning and shoot her holding me better than happened to my friend and i thought you won anything happened to him i should i will take it to court there's another gentleman behind you man you have public comments as well give me one second let me reset the state your name and you have three minutes to speak sir hi my name is benjamin leyva and i'd like to say that i don't think a budget is ever an excuse for bad service and i don't think that there's any reason why these people should be here because somebody should be representing them and i think that what i heard today is very sad and i think that is a city we can do better than that thank you very much thank you thank you sir any other public comment yeah mr schalisar's coming at yourself there's somebody right behind you i apologize sir please state your name for the record and you have three minutes hello mark salazar again uh just uh just to follow up a little bit you know the i think the budget you know i don't i saw the uh some in in mention of incentives but you know i think incentives also need to be related to the uh performance uh of on customer service you know some of the problems that i've heard don't relate to the drivers they relate to the people on the phone who are scheduling you know people who have been treated rudely people who have been treated on a surly type of attitude and uh people who have who have felt i i know one one one poor lady who's tried to get a ride to her to her uh church service and it's not on a sunday it's on a friday and she's been left to tears after talking to a scheduler because the scheduler would not work with her to to give her that time to get picked up so that she'll be on time to her service that window where the bus is going to pick her up has you know part of that time that they schedule her she's going to be late so they're scheduling her at a time it's going to be late and you know that's just programming for failure um also i was going to say with you know we used to have people when when they were stranded you used to have a shuttle that would go out and help somebody in an emergency and and now you're you're telling them oh you have to wait three hours or or more you know no when somebody is in trouble when somebody is in a dangerous situation and they're going to have to be waiting and and and they they really can't handle it you know you're forcing them to handle it but you're putting them in danger and you used to have that shuttle that would go out and cover these people now why can't some of that be in this budget you know handling emergencies handling handling crises you know handling people who who really need that service this is something that is that is critical that is essential for people to live a good life to live the life that they want to live thank you thank you sir thank you any additional public comment star six to unmute yourself we have one more person mr salazar i believe let me see hi reuben how are you ferdinand reuben is here as a question foreign please in the office sing loud do nothing can you use that purpose is your breast creating our answer for her we heard on the news that they had approved some funds for sun metro is even after the approval of these funds it seems like things have gotten worse we celebrated we celebrated the ada anniversary in july and it's been 32 years since the ada was passed 32 years after the passage of the ada and the rights of people with disabilities are still being trampled on let's stop that let's stop that gracias thank you thank you ms any additional public comment star six to unmute yourself or come up to the podium please i don't see anyone else thank you i motioned to close the public hearing at 11 05 a.m and postpone the final vote on the mass trans transit budget until august 23 2022 second motion made by board member lisa seconded by board member la salcido the voting is open mr lisa yes if you can just put your vote in please yes yes and yes and i will show you there you go thank you the public hearing has been closed and postponed for the budget meeting of august the 23rd we have seven yes and one no that's rep that's board member molina motion two adjourn all those in favor all those opposed and we are adjourning the special mass transit meeting for august the 16th at 11 06 a.m all right so our next item is motion to reconvene the the regular city council meeting of august 16th made by representative rivera seconded by representative molinar at 1106 all those in favor all those opposed and the meeting is back in session the next item on the agenda is item 22 and that is the presentation discussion in action recommend we take out 38 it's a competing item to the public hearing on the sun metro you want to what i'm going to take item 38 on the regular agenda it's the public hearing on the regular city budget so companion not into what we just heard can we get a motion go ahead and take it so moved gen go ahead and take it go ahead motion made by representative manelo and secondary representative rivera i can i can go ahead and move it up though diana i can move the item up if i want thank you sir so go ahead and this is the public hearing on the proposed budget as amended for the city of el paso filed by the city manager with the city clerk on july 14 2022 which begins on september 1st 2022 and ends on august 31st 2023 the public hearing is open at 11 00 8 am and we don't have anyone signed up to speak but i will ask is there anybody who would like to comment on the budget star six to unmute yourself or please come up to the podium i don't see anybody alternate may or pro tem if you can make a motion yes thank you i motioned to close the public hearing at 08 am and postpone the final vote on the budget until august 23rd 2022 second and we have a motion by alternate mayor pro tem lisaraga seconded by representative rivera the motion is open voting is open representative saxido bye thank you ma'am and the item has been approved unanimously thank you now we can go back to now we'll go back to the legislative agenda and that is thank you mr cortinas item 22 on page 8 presentation discussion and action on the city of el paso's legislative agenda for the 88th regular session of the texas state legislature good morning again miss adams good morning all righty i think um we have snapper and lupe also on the line lindsey adams legislative liaison for the record um yes there's lupe snapper is currently at the capitol so he might be a couple minutes late but he's been trying to get here so before i begin um good to see you all good morning today we're bringing an update as you all know we came to you in may this is just an update as we promised if you haven't noticed we've made a lot of process improvements into how we keep you all updated so hopefully you guys feel informed and if there's anything you ever need always feel free to reach out if it can please bring up the presentation that would be great i'll go ahead and get started while they do that so today we are of course updating you on where we are in the process with our legislative priorities and the legislative agenda as much as i wish i knew investment policy that is not the correct presentation um so we're here to provide an update and also get some action on from you all um on a section of the agenda of course in october we'll come back with the final agenda um but today we're just going to talk about the priority legislative initiatives that you all have seen and we met with you all on and then also the support and opposed items that you all provided to us in our individual briefings that we held with you all don't want to go too far without the presentation they're they're looking for perfect if you could go to the second slide please great thank you so much um so just a quick reminder before we get started um we do have three sections in our agenda so the first one is our priority legislative initiatives which is what we'll go over today and then we also have our report a pose and support section um which we're only going to cover the items that council brought forward to us during our meetings with you all we'll go over the rest of them in october we wanted to break it up just so we weren't throwing a lot of stuff at you at once next slide please so in terms of the timeline as you all know we started this process in march identifying priority legislative initiatives we've worked with city departments city leadership and then we brought an update to you all in may after that we met with each of you individually and got your feedback on those initiatives and of course any ideas input that you had on those so that's what we'll show you those those today and then also in july we met with the entire delegation we were fortunate enough to get them all in one room a virtual room but all in one room at the same time we presented our agenda to them and they were very much in support of all of our items so that's very good as we move into getting closer to the session another thing we're doing now that we're in august we're meeting with all of our stakeholders so we have met with utep the chamber the borderplex alliance el paso water el paso electric i'm sure i missed a few but we've been meeting with all of our stakeholders and by the end of this week we will have completed that our last meeting is with the hispanic chamber of commerce and one thing that we've been targeting in all of these meetings of course is our initiatives transportation's been a big thing that we've been discussing with them as well as like the weiler aerial tramway and stuff like that um so today of course in august we're wanting to get your all support on the priority legislative initiatives that we have so far and then we'll come back to you all in october for the final adoption of the agenda bills can begin to be filed in november and then january is basically here so we're moving through this process rather quickly but it's been smooth selling so far and i want to thank lupe and snapper for their help and we've been a great team so far so i'm very excited about that next slide please so i'm not going to go through all of them because you have seen them you saw them in may i'm just going to let you all know of the changes um what's different from what you saw in may so next slide please so under economic development the first thing are remaining the same as you saw them in may and as we discussed in your briefings the fourth item on this slide is being moved to the support section and we're doing this because we don't really have a specific project in mind that encompasses renewable energy initiatives so if we move this to support we'll have a lot more opportunity should an item come forward during the session to support any type of renewable energy solar et cetera so moving into the support section is just a better deal for us we'll be able to um you know move forward with anything that comes up during the session next slide please so on the budget slide there are two changes the first one um there both changes are related to the first item on this slide so at first we had the impact of inflation as a priority initiative but we're moving that to the support section because we're sure it's going to be a topic of conversation during the session so anything that supports the idea or the impact of inflation the city is moving to support that but we're wanting to also oppose any legislation that would restrict our ability to generate property tax revenue so those are the two changes on this slide next slide please under transportation there's no changes from what you saw in may so those will all remain the same i do want to mention on the weiler aerial tramway we had very good discussions with the delegation about it they're all very much in support of that so we're very hopeful that um this year with the surplus we may be able to get the full funding for that so we're we're going to try as as best we can for that next slide under the border section nothing has changed this is exactly as you saw in may so i'm still looking out for complementing our its technology at our bridges next slide so one thing that you did not see in may but that you did see in june when you all passed the resolution in support of vivaldi was the gun legislation so these two are pulled directly from that resolution if you can go to the next slide as well please this is also pulled directly from that resolution so this is language that you all have already adopted we are adding this as our priority initiative since you guys have already taken action on that if you can go to the next slide one thing that we are adding when we spoke to the delegation they mentioned that they they were very happy with the resolution that you all passed but they would like to see if we could add something related to straw purchases that's the purchase of a firearm by somebody who for somebody who would legally not be able to purchase it themselves so that the delegation did recommend that we add that um to what you guys have already approved in terms of gun legislation next slide please so um with that those are all of our priority legislative initiatives that we will be going after with your all's approval um this next slide covers the recommendations we received from you all during your briefings about support and opposed items that you would like to see so this language is what we drafted based on the meetings we held with you so if this doesn't reflect what you meant in that meeting please let us know so we can get that corrected to exactly what you guys are asking for but the first one is to find support anything that repurposes electric vehicle batteries we had a conversation about what's going to happen when we have all of these electric vehicle batteries that are now in a landfill and it's not really it's kind of defeating the purpose so supporting anything that would provide new ways to repurpose that the second item is continued funding for the hazelwood act so we there was actually a higher education hearing yesterday they spoke about the hazelwood act one of the things they mentioned is that there has been a decrease in number of veterans which means there's been a decrease in number of people using the program but that doesn't mean it's going to zero it's very much stabilizing at this point which is good um the next item is to support the expansion of chapter 615 chapter 615 refers to if an officer police officer law enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty their family would be entitled to benefits and this would be to support anything that expands that to educators or anybody that works in a school setting and then finally the last item from the members of council was support efforts to protect women's reproductive rights and then oppose any efforts that would ban abortion in texas so with these i do want to mention i know mayor pro tem isn't here today but i had a feeling he was going to ask about the film incentive program so that's an item that will bring to you all in october these are just new ones that we have from the the meetings that we held with you all so next slide please so today the requested action um we're asking you to approve the priority initiatives that i just went over all of them are listed on your screen i know they're kind of small but i wanted to get them all in one snapshot the only difference here of course is that last one adding the straw purchase prohibition to the gun legislation so that's half of the requested action and the second half is on the next slide please um just to get approval of uh the support and opposed section of those new initiatives that you brought forward which are the four i just went over move to a proof next slide sorry so with that here's our recommended motion just motion to approve those priority legislative initiatives and the support and opposed section of the legislative agenda that was just presented and then next slide please finally we continue to work to craft the agenda we still have a lot of support and opposed items that we'll bring forward to you all in october we're still working with our stakeholders like i mentioned and then of course we'll be back in october for final adoption as we move into the session starting in january so with that i will take any questions i'll make a motion to approve again mayor thank you very much lizzie thank you very much for your presentation couple of things so you mentioned earlier on that the you have already met with the delegation here and they were very supportive of it yes sir we covered all of our priority legislative initiatives so not the support in a post section per se but all of our initiatives they are in support of and we've also gotten some um feedback that they're willing to file some of those bills for us okay and how are do you know how they're going to disseminate filing the emotion or bills as far as you know what representative is going to follow what or the state senator blanco is going to file all of them on behalf or do you know anything like that so i don't not for all of them but i do know for example the gun legislation one senator blanco has filed in the past and he's mentioned that he will file again for some of the transportation items representative ortega has said that she will file most of those transportation as she has in the past okay and as far as the hazelwood program i believe it's also covered or made so it the dependents are eligible for to receive benefit benefits through it for education services so you mentioned that there's a decrease in veterans which is probably so i don't know that for a fact but the fact that the spouses and dependents can apply as well so we need to cover that as well yes absolutely it's written to support any expansion of of the hazelwood program okay the other thing lindsey lindsey i'm sorry on that particular one and i'm coming at you live from the capitol today uh so um there are committee hearings that that were in attendance so i apologize being here on the capitol extension but um uh representative there was actually as lindsay mentioned a a hearing yesterday uh in the higher education committee that covered this and currently as you you stated uh children and dependents and spouses are eligible to utilize that benefit that's a current uh status the individuals that oversee that through the university system have indicated that the funding has stabilized for it they expect it to be funded again they do have lower numbers uh and they said that was attributable to just a lower number of overall veteran population new and in addition one other thing about the hazelwood program that's important to point out is it is a supplement to the gi bill so those individuals that are eligible for the gi bill first utilize that and then the state of texas through the hazelwood act program uh would uh have these additional benefits once those initial had been extinguished but it is the good news is that it appears that it is on a much more stable path than it was four years ago and that some of the over utilization issues that they felt might have been threatening its longevity have been addressed and so the the main thing that we will be doing is supporting as i suspect that it will be um fully funded in the state budget this next time around all right thank you very much please state your name for the record oh i'm sorry uh the snapper car partner general counsel with focused advocacy um and one other just snapper we did recognize your voice there's no mistaking it but for the record we needed your name absolutely absolutely thank you um the the one other item uh representative you asked about kind of how the members will divide up that's also something that you don't do very early although lindsay pointed out we're now inside of three months from when bills can officially be filed with numbers on them where they can become law november 14th is that date um however the the delegation as is custom with most delegations will likely look at what their committee assignments are kind of what they plan on working on what they've worked on over the interim as we said we got a good idea of some because they have history with some of those issues but we'll work with them to kind of identify who the best ones are to carry and they also may be aware of bills that some of their colleagues may be filing that they plan to co-author uh that might give us even a better chance of kind of having more than just us supporting because some of these issues do have overlap statewide i just wanted to let you know that as well thank you thank you for that yeah and uh mr carter thank you very much for that uh bright acumen on how things work at the state legislature i'd like to continue on slide 12 you don't have to go to where you talk about chapter 615 and so i'm sure everyone here the city of el paso even though this incident happened in uvalde texas we don't need another you validate texas we don't need school school children to be shot and killed and so the fact that you have educators there doing a public service they are public servants of the state of texas they need to be recognized for that for their service for their dedication their long hours and so we just hope and pray that doesn't happen again but in the fact that it does we'll be ready for some measure to provide some type of meaningful benefits for their families so thank you very much for that lindsay and i see your address for the 915. you know representative molinar it's so important that you know you say we pray and hope and it never happens again we need to be proactive and not reactive reactive is a really bad idea so thank you for that thank you representative hernandez followed by representative rodriguez thank you lindsay and and all on the call quick question when are the committee assignments that would be a question for snapper when does that happen that those that will happen the committee assignments themselves will happen after the session is started the speaker of the house assigns the committees uh after they're elected uh on the first day uh second day actually of session first and second day and then they have it's at their discretion generally that will happen in february um or or late january even if they're really fast and then the lieutenant governor gets to make those assignments the senate tends to kind of update committee membership as they go along during the interim has been lieutenant governor patrick's practice but yet there will be with new members that will be because of retirements and election uh changes there will be a shuffling if you will in the senate too um and so that just gives a better idea of where we are for example just to say you know we've uh the el paso community has been fortunate to have someone on say the appropriations and the finance committees in past sessions and so those individuals have a little bit more ability uh although it takes the whole delegation but they have a little more ability to help carry forward some of our appropriations requests for example and so that's why it's important and again some of them we know ahead of time and they can anticipate but but that is why representative moody made a good point when we met with them which is every session you know the the delegation as a whole is looking for opportunities to help advance the items that we have in our agenda it's not just on the filing of these proactives but ways in the past that where we have pitched a ride if you will or been added to other items that have allowed us to accomplish these things even though they might not have been accomplished in the standalone bill that they they filed uh to help us achieve that ends thank you and um this will be the first session where we have less members of our delegation um do you all anticipate any um repercussions or anything of that nature in this upcoming session will we be adequately represented which is having a smaller delegation and our our priorities that's my concern will our priorities really have a shot at the legislation with just a finite number of delegates we always enjoy having the extra votes just i mean it's obviously the legislative process at its root is is a counting game of a 181 members that get to vote but at the end of the day i think one to your question of i do not think that you'll see significant differences your delegation uh has a lot of senior members have a lot of members that have a great deal of uh experience in the process and have shown that they understand how to work across the aisle um and to achieve things and um both in your house members and on uh in the senate senator blanco but also on the committees that they serve on they are are very important members that that do a lot of work and on the subject matter which is where we're asking them to be involved um now to be successful on some of yours again at some of the items that y'all have approved as priorities are things that have statewide attention and importance and that you are going to be a part of that larger debate and so part of this is to identify coalitions not just other governmental cities and entities but other out supporters whether that's public private advocacy groups coalitions around the state that will support or be active in those items that you have that's going to increase our chances exponentially to to be successful and and you know from uh you know the larger cities around the state that coordinate to the work that we do with tml to then the outreach as as lindsey mentioned with these other community partners whether that's utep the county um you know the the chambers you name it on down to individual businesses and industries that are in your community will will play a vital role in us supporting your delegation to to get some of these uh to give them a chance to be successful and and i'm i'm cautiously optimistic we obviously have a massive budget surplus uh this time around and it is always better to be having these discussions at the capitol when when they have money in the coffers to to deal with their agencies and programs than it is when they're they're looking for funds thank you and just a just a final question are you hearing anything at the capitol related to short-term rentals yeah yes i suspect that there will be bills filed that would preempt further cities abilities in that regard and they'll primarily be pushed by airbnb and homeaway and um can you see bills this can you explain what that means like um restricting absolute municipalities to be able to regulate short-term rentals or for cities not to be able to regulate so think of it similar to the the legislation that uber brought in relationship to local ordinances for for ride sharing uh they started coming to the capitol about that time and so primarily and this is something the airbnb has done across the country home away is his national headquarters is here in austin uh and so and we're formed here and so uh home away vrbo the other largest provider and they they have gotten legislation that we have opposed we've imposed on behalf of el paso and certainly other cities that we have as clients as well that would have preempted local ordinances and set forth a state standard that often was was much less than what some existing ordinances were there with regards to to short-term vacation rentals uh and the types of properties that could be put into that and so i suspect that we will have that debate now i will say this from when we started it was primarily cities during those sessions now there is a very wide statewide groups of neighborhood and homeowners that show up at the capitol to tell their story and to express their concerns with things that might take away local decision making and oversight in that regard and it's i would say a much more balanced discussion that's going on here and candidly i think that the the providers know that it's not just cities that will show up when those legislation is filed that those homeowners and impacted neighborhoods uh we do as well and they primarily on our side well it's not we we currently don't have an ordinance i know that's something in the pipeline that council will have an opportunity to to take a vote on so my question is will will this i with this um priority list to have an opportunity to amend in the future um in the event council wants to add that as a support or oppose in that category for our legislative agenda so if i can just jump in real quick uh under under the state legislative agenda that's adopted by council you have a general principle where you give us the authority to oppose any legislation that seeks to reduce your municipal authority your rulemaking authority your ordinance making authority so that would fall within that broad category so you have already given us the authority to oppose any any legislation that deals with uh trying to curtail the city's ability to regulate um strs oh okay that's the acronym now str's okay um oh just i wanted to bring that to your attention because i know that's something that's becoming more visible in our community um a lot more complaints um and so it's something that the city needs to take a careful look at again it's in the pipeline but thank you for for reassuring me that that's under there maybe um if there's something that's brewing later in the legislature we can have that discussion at a later time but thank you all for your hard work good luck in the upcoming session thank you thank you representative ferdinand representative rodriguez thank you mayor hi lindsay good morning um how many items are we taking action on today so it will be um for the priority legislative initiative initiatives it'll be a total of 12. oh 12 and then the opposed and the supporter opposed for today the support and oppose is only four okay and are they um independent or they were grouping them together um that's a decision that you all can make if we would prefer that they were all together but if you would like to separate them that is completely up to you okay i'd like to make a motion to take them each separately please for the initiatives or just the support and a post support and oppose okay we initially had a motion by representative vanello seconded by representative rivera to approve together submitted correct yeah that's recommended by staff yes right so if that motion doesn't pass then we'll take them separately if there's a motion a second on that and uh one thing i was going to ask lindsay i know that uh we had talked when when we did a little briefing and talked with snapper and lupe about talking about a a kind of unison type of safety as schools start you know they start building additional schools and some type of support by the state and talking about that where is that at at this point so in terms of working with the schools and safety i know we have uh we're working there's an mou that's come i think it always approved today for the sro officers um in terms of everything that was outlined in that resolution in june that was also covered there for school safety so it is moving forward our delegation is very much in support of um all of those things that were in our resolution so so it is moving forward yeah but building this as we build the schools and you know because we're gonna have to retro a lot of them i think as we're talking about safety but as they build the schools some type of standard that's required by the state to uh have these schools build in a certain safety manner and i know we talked about and i know snapper we kind of talked about that that we want to look into that where is that at today so it's included in the digital go ahead i'm sorry i i was i'm sorry lindsay i was on mute i just wanted to add real quick to the mayor's question with regards to i know we have items that are in the that are important for us in our uh resolution now in the overall adopted agenda but as it relates specifically to school hardening or building and designs post the santa fe school shooting that legislature passed what was known as senate bill 11 which created the texas school safety center and it had many of these questions and concerns that were outlined unfortunately i think the aftermath of uvalde has shown that they might not have had the necessary resources at that center uh it's housed out in one of our universities it's a state funded that's where the safety plans for the schools are filed they do the audits for tea and they also set forth best practices for building standards for for safe school campuses of of the various sizes whether it's elementary middle school or the high schools and what has there's been multiple as you can guess hearings here at the capitol their select committees they talked about that very topic and in addition the governor has issued some executive orders to pea about best practices that were supposed to be being implemented prior to the start of the school year as it relates to that and so i think what you're going to see mayor is one there already is a requirement for that to be taken into account by school districts there's actual plans that are supposed to be filed i think what you're going to see now maybe is uh additional infusion of money to that center to maybe get additional staffing to do on-site uh it was kind of self-reported is the way that the system worked previously and so i there's not a need to necessarily ask for that item to be there because that that requirement that you're talking about is there there already are tea in the school center best practices for safety implementations on entrances on guard staffing and all of those items however there hasn't been kind of that direct interaction now with school districts through the school safety center and it's my understanding based on these interim hearings that that's where the legislature is looking at empowering them more and also getting them more personnel and funding uh to work with districts and in addition what's being talked about which will be determined during session is putting state funding potentially towards that so the to and by that the the either retrofitting of existing campuses where it's needed or for these new school campuses to have safety upgrades that could be covered by some sort of state grant program that's great thank you for that i appreciate the update on that uh representative rivera mayor point of clarification i wasn't finished okay go ahead um so miss neiman the motion that i just made which was a motion to amend the original motion doesn't that one supersede the the motion on the floor yes ma'am your motion is to it's not to amend it's a separate motion her motion mayor as i understood it as if she wanted to take a separate vote for each of the legislative priorities as opposed to one whole vote correct the reason for that mayor is because there's items on there that i support 100 and there's items on there no no i and i understand that and um so the miss neiman just to make sure we do this right the motion that's made right now is to take the items as reading onto the record her motion is to take him separately which would we take the first motion first do you want to take this one first you should take representative rodriguez's motion first because it's amending the first the main motion on the floor we'll do that thank you for that and with that we have representative rivera followed by representing molinar thank you mayor oh ms lindsey uh good to see you again thank you for the presentation uh also i just have one question everything's been asked for with what i wanted to know can you hear me i can barely hear you okay i'm sorry uh i just wanted to ask you something mostly everything that i had in mind also has been asked but on that uh bill that senator blanco filed is there in a clause that also i don't say punish but also looks at the person that disperses a a weapon for somebody under the age as the current existing in reference to straw purchases right um i'm not sure if the top of my head but i can definitely find out um and get back to you because right now i understand there's one where you leave it unsecured or recklessly the child finds and fires it the parent can be charged with that yes sir so can we can we do that please can we come back and find out if that has it to make that much stronger sure and more i'm sorry snapper might know the answer to that rep representative yes the the core of that bill uh was that texas is one of the few states that actually doesn't have a state uh criminal offense for straw purchases similar to what we have in our federal firearm laws and a large number of uh so the state it's harder for states to prosecute those and that is what the the um the bill would have done is create a harsher penalty for both the receiver of the of the firearm and of course these the straw man purchaser uh would be then committing a state felony uh that that could be prosecuted are you saying that that is in there or not i'm sorry you're the that is that is what the bill would do okay i i just wanted the intent of the bill it is yeah i just wanted to be assured because i i think we discussed this you and i did and so uh i believe this is uh even with miss lindsay about this you know because there should there should be some kind of repercussion towards the person who does so thank you very much appreciate you thank you mayor thank you sir rip some money thank you mayor one more time um also slight well where it talks about ways to repurpose electric car batteries once they reach the end of their useful life i'm not sure if lindsey if you could answer this or snapper or loop it but have there's been any discussion about the i'm not going to say repurposing but the proper disposal of solar panels solar panels now probably been around for quite some time i'm sure the first technology of those are is way past and so you know new homes are being built other homes are i've already had probably 10 years 12 years or more of solar panel usage and so what are we exactly doing with those solar panels once they do in their life or they need to be replaced i know we talk about climate change i know we talk about you know preservation of our landfills and mother earth and everything else like that but snapper do you have anything on that that's on the agenda for the 88th legislature that you know represented i'll be honest i haven't heard of a lot of discussion of that topic but but it it one makes sense there has been ongoing discussions uh just a battery technology um not just large-scale batteries but all batteries because of their effect on landfills but i haven't heard of whether or not there's programs to refurbish uh or to make proper disposal of of our solar panels what i can do is i'll check with our state office of energy conservation which is at the puc uh and i'll visit with them they would be the folks that would hear about that sort of effort or discussion but but i'm unaware of any so far okay uh i would appreciate that information coming back to all of us at city council um maybe perhaps we can change something that in october um possibly look into that thank you yes sir thank you for that uh we have a motion and a second to take the items all separately whose second it represents representative um okay all those in favor let me go ahead and do um representative rodriguez seconded by mayor alternate mayor pro temply sarga are you changing it in there devotion the emotion is open the voting is open and this would be to take the the action separately for the priority legislative initiatives and the support of post items there's two nays representative anello and representative rivera mayor would you like me to take each item now yes ma'am please the first item is the seeking legislate it's the priority legislative initiative for to seek legislation that would streamline and expand the skills development fund program move to approve and that's representative angelo and i missed the second second thank you ma'am motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative vanello representative rodriguez and rivera the voting is open thank you and the item has been approved unanimously the next one is to seek legislation that will extend the texas economic development act second motion made by representative vanello seconded by representative hernandez voting is open representative rivera and the item has been approved unanimously next is to seek legislation that would clearly allow municipalities to convey city-owned property as part of the chapter 380. motion made by alternate mayor pro tem lisaraga seconded by representative rodriguez voting's open think about it the item has been approved there is two nays that would be representative vanello and representative molina voting name the next item is appropriate money for the defense economic adjustment assistance grant second motion made by representative anelos seconded by representative salcido voting is open and the item has been approved unanimously next item is to seek legislation that will appropriate funding to municipalities for the acquisition of police body cameras wait um so mayor go ahead go ahead ma'am the support and opposed items i thought we were just voting on there was only four items correct 12 items yes there's 12 priority legislative initiatives and then for support and a post right i thought we were only voting on the support and opposed item that way she didn't clarify her motion that way she just said to individually she didn't clarify the support you did clarify that's why i'm asking but not in the motion you clarified when she asked you but you didn't adjust the motion it's just a lot of individual votes i'm just trying to see if we can just focus on the ones i have a question mayor so for this so body cameras and storage it says to increase funding for cross-border infrastructures in txdot border transportation master plan is that incorrect oh am i looking at the wrong i'm looking at the wrong thing i've answered my own question never mind thank you so are we still voting on so i also i i still have another question um so we brought this up i think when this first came there is currently state funding that is available to municipalities for body cameras and storage i brought this up last time i still think that this language is problematic because that does exist in the city of el paso in the last five years that i've been on those committees has never applied for it just by bringing that up at city council often um and so i think it's i just think it's counterintuitive to ask for funding that exists if we want to expand that funding um so it's like more useful for the city it's it's a larger sum of dollars i can support that but i i just don't know why we would be asking for legislation of something that already exists and not the expansion of that so i don't know if i would need to make a motion to change that i thought we did it last time but i can do it again or if you all just have that direction snapper i don't know if that was enough for you but i think yeah i think we should be supporting the expansion as well as additional funding because that funding does currently exist we can make the the change in the language to just say to expand it if depends council's wish okay thank you so just to clarify the motion was made by representative rodriguez and seconded by alternate mayor pro temply sarga to take every legislative priority and the support and opposed items separately it was a support and opposed items separately mayor do you wish me to continue taking each one of them more even the legislative priorities okay so continuing with that it is the seek legislation that would that will approve funding to municipalities for the acquisition of police body cameras move to approve so we're going to change it to expand not expand yeah just so everyone's on the same page you made that motion okay okay so as revised and it is this is representative anello made the motion seconded by representative rivera to approve as revised the voting is open representative vanello thank you the item has been approved unanimously next motion is to seek legislation that will add transparency on how to the how the texas department of transportation commission allocates category 2 12 funding is there a motion second who moved motion made by representative molinar seconded by representative hernandez to approve voting's open representative rivera thank you the item has been approved the next the next did you vote repanello what was your vote i i got it thank you the next motion the next item is seek legislation that allows the county to submit to the voters an increase in vehicle registration fees move to approve second motion made by representative molinar seconded by representative and baptismal treatise has a question um yes so as far as since it is the county the one that's seeking um the increase on the vehicle registration fees does this mean that the increased revenue would go towards the county correct so part of this item is to make a more equitable distribution so that the city can see more of those dollars the city the city not the county so it's a county fee but with this language it would allow for the distribution to be more equitable within the city so who's getting the the county is collecting it and and how is it being divided yeah can we enter jack lindsay with some detail yes please and lupe feel free to jump in too i heard you as well this is a previous bill that has been filed and the city worked with her with the representative uh last session to get language and in the bill that would put any additional funding that's generated through a vote of the citizens that approved it through the mpo process so that there would be the normal distribution of money the same way that we would otherwise get uh if there was additional funding for for projects but it would go through the mpo so that yes the city it the county wouldn't just get all of the increase it would go through the normal transportation funding process that's the priority process that you'll have in place so which would ensure that the city would receive a share of that money as well and she indicated to us that that would be included in any version they should file okay and is there right now is there um an estimate of what that revenue would be to the city i i can't answer that no because i think it would depend on what the size of the fee would be as well um so it really is just the process uh to ensure that that we don't have to have a debate over it it would go through the normal funding process that you'll have in place for okay for prioritizing your projects and currently more or less you know what the um fee is is it the 69 81 dollars just depending on the vehicle so i can't i can't answer that yet i believe this specific fee is ten dollars currently ten dollars okay because it's only a portion of that registration okay so that portion of the registration fee would increase and it would be it would go through the county but the city would receive funding for it correct that's what we're asking for okay thank you well we wouldn't necessarily receive funding it would go through a process like she pointed out through the mpo process because the argument has been that the fee that's collected it's within the county because the city of el paso is in the county and that those dollars should be spent also in the city not just in the outer rings of the city so this would give us the ability for it to go through an mpo process to have a better opportunity to possibly get some projects funded with that funding thank you so i have a motion made by representative molinar and seconded by representative rodriguez sorry i have a clarifying question i'm now a little confused by that answer the county is asking for or is increasing or asking for an increase in this fee so so if i can jump in real quick so what the county is asking for is the ability to submit it to the voters whether or not they can increase the vehicle fee by ten dollars so really it's going to be up to the voters whether or not they want to increase the fee by ten dollars it just gives the county the possibility of going to the voters to increase the fee so the voters have to to weigh in on it if they vote not to increase it by ten dollars and it won't get increased um and then going back to what snapper is saying the way this benefits us if the voters do approve it is that um it it provides for equity in that uh the the projects selected that will be you that will be able to use that additional funding will have to go through the mpo process so this is just a support item we're not coming in and asking that it has to stay in the city limits that we're just supporting the county's request so we're seeking legislation because that doesn't currently exist to allow the county to go to the voters to ask for sure but which is their item so we're just we're just helping them with that if you want to move it to the support section we absolutely can do no no i just want to clarify because what the city manager said about it saying in the city limits i was just confused if our item was different than what the county is asking and we're asking for legislation that those have to stay within the city limits i just wanted to clarify you were just giving your opinion correctly i was not given my opinion i was getting a fact i was okay but in regards to what we are voting on are we voting on separate legislation that would say these have to stay in the city limits or are we voting on what the county is asking no the county is asking for an additional ten dollars okay thank you officially a ten dollar fee right now asking for another ten dollars and then this process if voted on by the public with the legislation being the way it's written it would um give us the ability or it would give the legislation and the passage of it it'd have to go through the mpo process so it's not guaranteed that it go anywhere uh inside or outside it would go through the mpo process okay well thank you for sticking on topic to what the item was another conversation that got confused is it a twenty dollar fee right now not a ten dollar twenty dollars right now i think it's 20 right now is it 20 yeah i'm pretty sure it's 20 right now i thought we thought it was 10 and then this would be an additional 10. i would make 20 right now it's currently well we'll double check that just just uh also a bit of a point of clarification this item has been in the city's agenda in the past uh over many years um when there was uh some different members and and the idea of having in the counties statewide have always been the entity that imposes this that's the statewide uh methodology for this however the these bills as being bracketed have not had a very favorable reception in the legislature over the course of the last six to eight years in the last handful of sessions uh there are counties that have special bracketed authority that got this before they kind of became discouraged however the ones that have passed tend to not assign the money to a county or to a particular city but they create this kind of normal process that you would go through for any revenue that that is additional so i.e a an mpo or an rma however you're set up in your region that gives them the best chance of success which is i think why the representatives had chosen to to style it this way yeah no and i appreciate that and that's where i was getting confused because i know that it's not really i don't think it's like the appropriate time or place to step in and say it should go one place or the other we don't even have the approval or the money yet um so that's what i just wanted to clarify so thank you snapper i appreciate that those are all my questions and i'm sorry mayor you're right it is 20. it is 20 right now this would take it to 30. pardon me i didn't hear you it's correct it's 20. thank you sure this would take it to 30. thank you very much mr city manager gonzalez so yes it is 20 and i hear it from many times from my constituents is that if the county of el paso wishes to increase it another ten dollars that would be thirty dollars per vehicle per year that we would be paying you can call it a tax you can talk at a fee but it's still ten more dollars let's go hopefully better i've just got a problem with the language here because it says allows the does it mean that they will right it says allows it doesn't mean that it it will i would prefer shall there instead of allows because they could change their mind and not really spend anything and i'll pass over the npl yeah so um who is it go ahead um so that's just allowing um them to submit it to the voters it's not necessarily in reference to the equitable distribution portion so but they're going to vote on that and they're going to say laos i want some sort of guarantee for the city okay just to make sure that they spend it in here and not i think representative had a great point we're not sure they're going to spend it here good we can't right the legislation filed reference the mpo so i i mean it's the bill itself that was filed last session that we worked on does exactly what y'all discussed it once submitted to the voters if approved that additional funding would flow through your mpo yeah and point of clarification my issue is that we don't have the authority to do that and so that's why i was concerned that that language would have been in there um but it does it clarifies that it would go through the mpo and as you know we have the most voting members on the mpo so you still have a chance that those dollars would go to the city but i just want to clarify that my issue is that we i don't believe that we have the authority to ask for that okay mine was just with the laos but if that's the case and okay thank you mayor rodriguez thank you thank you my my final question on this item lindsay or whoever could answer is um this is an increase on vehicle registration on all vehicles to include commercial vehicles yes so anytime a vehicle would be registered and they pay a fee it would go towards them okay but um as far as commercial vehicles go it's a different rate it's not the twenty dollars so it would increase by ten dollars also so the the fee and in this case would is the same across the board regardless of what type of vehicle it is the actual registration fee is what changes based on what type of vehicle but it's not based off of a percentage it's a ten dollar set fee as this is written yes to increase it by ten dollars okay thank you remember that we have a motion in a second we sure do we have a motion made by representative molinar and seconded by representative rodriguez did you second that motion there you go she's secondly voting's open and the item has been approved there is one a representative rivera the the next item is to appropriate funding for the wider aerial tramway move to approve second motion made by representative molinar seconded by alternate mayor pro temply sarga no no no it's nello or rodriguez i mean hernandez that came out at the same time okay we have an ello a second because there was a couple of them boating is open representative rivera the item has been approved unanimously next one is appropriate funding to install and upgrade its technology and traffic control improvements move to approve motion made by alternate mayor pro temple sarga seconded by representatives voting is open item has been approved unanimously next one is that seek legislation that will enhance and complement the use of i.t of its move to approve hernandez second second motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative molinar voting is open the item has been approved unanimously next priority list is seek legislation that will increase funding for cross-border infrastructure move to approve hernandez thank you representative through motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative rivera voting is open representative rivera thank you sir motion has been approved unanimously next is add to the gun legislation initiative adopted by council second hernandez and just really quick we will add what representative rivera said about ensuring that there's um yes why was that amended amendment to make sure that there's punishment included for anybody that purchases the weapon to approve as amended voting is open the item has been approved with representative rodriguez voting next item is to support legislation that provides for new ways to repurpose electric car batteries move to approve her nomination representative hernandez can we can we amend this one to include the the solar panels or i like to make a motion to amend to include the solar panels second i move to approve as amended thank you for changing your motion motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative salcido to approve as amended voting is open representative molinar thank you the item has been approved unanimously the next item is support continued full funding for the hazelwood act move to approve second thank you motion made by representative molinar seconded by representative hernandez motion is voting is open the item has been approved unanimously next is to support expansion of the benefits paid under chapter six one five moved approach second motion made by representative molina seconded by representative hernandez to approve voting is open representative salcido representative rivera thank you the item has been approved unanimously support all efforts to protect women's rights to approve second motion made by representative hernandez angelo seconded by representative hernandez to approve voting is open the item has been approved with three names representative molinar rodriguez and lisaraga voline there's the two other additional items that you're going to move forward for no those will come back in october so we're not going to consider no we'll take those in october thank you we'll come back in october thank you very much thank you thank you for your presentation and with that we'd like would you like to recess no i would like to take call to the public then we'll recess we have i think six or seven members yes sir miss wally check followed by silvia carrion ron cuomo karen washington louis vollen and jude judd burgess yes and call to the public members of wait a minute miss check you have three minutes go ahead ma'am god bless every one of you and make god bless our wounded divided america i'm here today to tell you america will be blessed again because we have more good people than the rotten ones and may i say in may 1945 when the war was over i was getting a beating from my next ex-nazis for losing the war to american soldiers the next day rescued me at age 16 and told me little girl do not be afraid you are under our usa protection and because of two soldiers here i am today 70 years later the yellow rose of texas from el paso and i will keep this title till we have a liberty press right here in this building this is not a dream this is going to be reality because i have for every one of you who represents el paso a book published and think global wise do nothing el paso wise okay this is an income long after i am six foot under and now you all have the opportunity to make a parcel shrine like no other city in the whole world and i depend on you and this is my proof that i'm in the right direction and god bless america and pray for unity amen thank you ms scheck ms carion you have three minutes ma'am hello ms carion good afternoon mayor council syria carrion president of the mission valley civic association my topic today is integrity integrity is an act of behaving honorably even when no one is watching people with integrity follow moral and ethical principles in all aspects of life integrity also extends to professional areas of work such as decision making interacting with colleagues and serving customers or clients when employers have integrity their members can trust their teams their team is working diligently characteristics of integrity graciousness they express gratitude and recognize the achievement of others two respectful they value other people by showing them respect at work by being on time meet project deadlines and keeps others feelings in mind three honest those with integrity strive to be truthful own up to their mistakes and learn from them trustworthy people that follow through with commitment and avoid over-promising tasks if unable to complete a task or meet the deadline let the others know hard-working these people strive to produce high quality of work regardless of the task they recognize that everything they can do impact the organization their colleagues and business outcome responsible those that deliver their work and take accountability helpful those with integrity are always helpful to others in need patient a person with integrity is able to tolerate challenges delays and unexpected obstacles while maintaining a calm and even demeanor random's house a definition of integrity is adherence to moral and ethical principles and you know that i'm bringing the subject matter of integrity because of my an opportunity to win my nip even with all the mistakes that i was brought forward to this council and so not anybody's direct fault but still we'll come back in two weeks and talk on another subject thank you thank you for your time miss carion next speaker is mr ron cuomo followed by karen washington and their topic is animal services mr como you have three minutes hi good afternoon i know you guys are always tired of me being here as i am being here um i'd like to play a video that came across my facebook page last night you come at me i'm from the south too for some reason there's a stigma here about getting your animals fixed i don't know where it comes from or what it's based on but it's here the majority of dogs out here are also free roaming so when you have free roaming unaltered dogs you get litters of puppies popping up everywhere if people would spay near their dogs then we wouldn't have adults running around in the streets we wouldn't have puppies being born underneath buildings and we wouldn't be growing our feral dog population many people believe that just because they have fur that they can survive in the wild we have domesticated and bred these dogs to the point where the majority of breeds can't many people also believe that because they have fur that they don't have feelings and if something doesn't have feelings why care if it's suffering i've taught some of my friends to have compassion for these animals because they just didn't understand i hope my videos reach out to the right people and they can begin to understand that they deserve love too okay on to the good parts kvia made a a news broadcast that stated our shelter is over full because of owner surrenders i'd like you to look at facts these are city reports owner surrenders are down by over half from 2019. we have 5 000 plus less dogs went out the front door animal services in 2022 it's time we fix the problem the shelter is pissing off the community they're not going to cooperate they're not going to help until things change we have discussed what needs to be changed i mean what does it take what does it take oscar one of our conversations was that they needed raises agostino said if he gave one he'd have to give it to seven thousand others well we all know someone got a raise in the city so are we going to do what he said are we going to give the raises are we going to pay our fair share are we going to pay a vet what they're worth to actually come here are we going to get a facility to take care of the thousands of dogs that you all put on the streets by allowing this process to continue every day we put this off we put more strays on the streets folks how many times do i have to say enough is enough we need to fix the problem you want to fix it let's do it let's get together let's come up with solutions we need to take care of this issue we are a laughing stock in the in the united states right now people are looking at el paso instead of it being in a great place like it was in 2019 to be in a very low place in 2022 enough we need to fix the issues now thank you sir next speech thank you sir karen washington you have three minutes man um good afternoon this is only my second time being in front of you also you're not tired of me yet but i'm sure we'll get to that point my name is karen washington i am a certified 501c3 um nonprofit i rescued dogs here in el paso for about 18 years now um i'm actually you're one of your boots on the ground i go out i've set traps in the desert i pick up strays of dogs that are abandoned this dog was this morning over at a taco cabana on treywood she was hit and killed by a car she's got a harness on she has an owner but she has no microchip there's still another dog that's running loose out there last week i took in a dog that had been hit by a car that that vet bill ran me about a thousand dollars from donations um humane society picked up two dogs last week that had both been hit by cars both dogs suffered broken legs and one dog is having his leg amputated today there are just too many stray dogs on the streets even the owners dogs are getting out but um but mr mayor on thursday july 21st you met with loretta hyde ron camau and i believe monica rielle from the sunland park area and it's my understanding that you told loretta that city council is tired of hearing us they don't want to see our dog pictures any longer well you know we're tired too we're we're tired i can't pick up dogs any longer how do you pick and choose which dog to save in el paso there are so many and until you actually get out there and see them i don't know what to do but as ron said el pasoans are talking although no one wants to bring it up i'll bring it up animal services and animal control ultimately fall under our city manager and mr de agostino and people are appalled myself included that nothing's being done to better our city-run taxpayer-funded shelter what is it going to take it seems our shelter is almost el paso's dirty little secret we want to bring people here come see beautiful el paso if anybody flew in here and saw our shelter they'd be on the next flight out i can guarantee you that and the idea that a city this size cannot do better is ludicrous to me two years ago paula powell showed me blueprint plans for a new shelter to be built where are those plans where is that shelter when is it coming is it coming um let's see what else we just need to clean up animal services i don't know where to start or how to do it but the distemper and parvo that's running through there it's not not it's not nice i had to put a dog down yesterday she had been dragged four miles initially she's a cruelty case and eventually she just passed away yesterday from distemper so we've got to get on board and better better let's beautify the shelter instead of beautifying el paso let's start with the shelter y'all thank you thank you and that's not for discussion but i just want to make sure that we i never told anyone we're tired of seeing anyone or i wouldn't be working with you all and making sure that we have private meetings because it's important to work together so that would not be an accurate statement the accurate statement is that i'm working with y'all and i'm meeting with you in my office and we'll continue to do that to make sure we come to some type of resolution and i know we had some things for both sides currently working on to try to fix the problem that it's not a problem that will be fixed overnight but we're working on it and we'll continue to meet so that statement was inaccurate the accurate statement is we'll continue to work together and it'll meet as many times as we need thank you we will lose the quorum representative hernandez we need you she's right there so we're there she's out there she's fine the next person is louis lois bailey and her topic is not feeding wildlife good afternoon good afternoon everybody my name is lois ballen i'm the urban wildlife biologist for el paso for 22 years now and i just like to talk to the council about being proactive in considering creating an ordinance or two for prohibiting the feeding of wildlife i'm going to read this message to you so i can do it in the allotted time there has been a growth in the number of people who in addition to feeding birds are feeding deer and other wildlife around their homes feeding wildlife in urban area puts them in a collision course with humans so this is the realities of feeding wildlife supplemental feeding encourages wildlife to become dependent on handouts that create welfare wildlife human foods are usually nutritionally lacking and may lead to wildlife health problems fed wildlife congregate in unnaturally high numbers at artificial food sources this is causes disease that spread to other animals some disease like chronic wasting to deer chronic wasting disease in deer are extremely contagious and also fatal others like rabies and his temper are dependent on high animal populations fed wildlife lose their fear of humans they become bold aggressive nuisance wildlife and create potential human safety risks feeding deer and other wildlife in urban areas attract predators such as fox coyotes bobcats and mountain lions feeding deer is acutely problematic i'm getting a large increase in the number of calls about nuisance deer the urban deer population in el paso is increasing this poses a hazard to motorists there's been an increase in road kills it causes a reduction in native plants or other wildlife damage to residential and commercial landscapes and may be dangerous to humans during the breeding season or the deer root in texas numerous cities such as austin fair oaks and hollywood park have passed ordinances prohibiting the feeding of deer with a class c misdemeanor violation and fines up to 150 dollars per violation another serious issue is feeding and dumping wildlife excuse me dumping waterfowl which includes ducks and geese feeding waterfowl human foods like bread popcorn or chips is harmful to the birds and the environment the concentration of birds causes an increase in fecal matter containing harmful bacteria reduces the water quality creates potential health hazards human food also causes to form wings in ducts and dumping unwanted domestic ducks contributes to the bacteria competition with wild ducks and hybridization so ordinances prohibiting the feeding of waterfowl already exist in dallas fort worth and other cities some have penalties are fines up to five hundred dollars three minutes are up ma'am i have one sentence can i finish if uh thank you for your time though we appreciate your your time here thank you ma'am next speaker is judd burgess and the topic is a basic lesson in math and legal contracts good afternoon you have three minutes good afternoon sir okay uh i am an american citizen afforded the rights of free speech according to our constitution i would ask that you not violate my first amendment rights by interrupting me lecturing me or muting my might because you personally find what i have to say uncomfortable that said i posed this question to every one of you including the city manager and the city attorney why are we still beating this dead horse it's been 10 years and 3.3 million dollars of el paso taxpayer money down the drain so that you can continue to litigate this foster club arena on behalf of the tiny minority of special interests whose personal agendas oppose the wishes of the majority of el paso you've beaten this horse to mushy pulp it's got no pulse you've convinced yourself that el paso's are willing to sacrifice an obscene amount of additional tax dollars to erect this monument to fiscal stupidity and leadership malpractice hundreds of millions of dollars that were not part of the original 180 million dollar price tag which now stands at 150 million so here's a lesson in basic math for every one of you a sports arena like the one that you propose will realistically cost closer to a half billion in taxpayer dollars when compared to recently built arenas of similar scope in other much wealthier cities 500 minus 150 is 350. that's 350 million dollars in additional taxpayer expense that was never agreed to which leads to a lesson in basic legal contracts the 2012 quality of life bond is at its core a simple contract you present several major projects attach price tags to each one and ask the public if we are willing to pay those amounts for the projects through a public vote if it passes then the legal aspects of the contract come into play el paso's will allow you to withdraw those exact amount of dollars to complete the projects according to the costs agreed upon it's not the public's fault that the city sat on the project since 2012. it's not our fault that you've become embroiled in the current wasteful litigation which has put the arena into cardiac arrest that is where the 350 million dollar shortfall for the sports arena becomes a major legal issue you can't fiscally abuse us by issuing 350 million in taxpayer-funded ceo debt so that you can bypass our permission participation and vote you can't force us to cover that shortfall by finding another source of tax dollars in a peter robb's paul scenario which again bypasses the public and leaves a shortfall somewhere else each one of you knows the precarious financial position of our city and our citizens if you truly care about the el pason's that you're supposed to serve then i think now is a good time for you to have your come to jesus moment and give that dead horse a proper burial and move on to more pressing concerns that our over-tax citizens need thank you thank you sir that's all the public comments sir thank you if i we'll move on to the first reading of ordinances and which i like to take a lunch break i would like to continue it's up to y'all move to recess because the yeah move to recess yeah research tool we have a promotion made by representative vanello in second did you all want to do a shorter version or 30 minutes 30 minutes 30 minutes we'll be back at one and seconded by representative by alternate mayor pro templi sagraga to recess the meeting and we'll be back at 1pm all those in favor yes thank you oh we have a motion made by representative molina and seconded by alternate mayor pro temply zaraga to reconvene them august 16 regular city council meeting at 103 pm okay and the next items are the first reading of ordinances and that would be items 23 through 31 motion to prove it i know motion made by representative rivera seconded by can we take them individually you want to take them individually is that a joke yeah it's only first reading first reading okay we'll take them individuals and again that would be items 23 through 31 motion made by representative rivera and seconded by representative salcido the voting is open i still representative hernandez yes who am i missing what am i missing and the item has been approved unanimously next item is item 32 and this is discussion and action that the city manager be authorized to sign an agreement for professional services buy in between the city of el paso and garver llc and this is for a project known as runway 8r26l rehabilitation construction and management inspection services move to approve second motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative molinar to approve voting is open we're on item 32 ma'am representative representative hernandez yes i have to log back in okay i'll mark you there you go item has been approved and representative rodriguez is not present for the vote next item is item 33 and this is discussion in action on the request that the director of purchasing and strategic sourcing department be authorized to issue a purchase order to duncan parking technologies incorporated the sole source provider for the 2022-0643 single parking meters and we do have public comment mayor who to approve mr eddie chavez i saw him earlier yes mr chavez you have three minutes good afternoon sir okay i was falling asleep last night when when the news came on about the bridge i thought it was saying that they were going to expand the bridge i said oh my goodness here we go another 600 million dollars wasted when they can make it somewhere else but i got informed when i got down here which is what i was looking for information that's going to be for the parking lot and uh they're gonna tear down understand the uh that uh housing authority that uh building on i might not be informed correctly but uh i just i was here so i just thought i'd come and get more information on it yeah that's a different item sir yeah that's that's not on here today okay thank you thank you thank you that was something that was a presentation yesterday which had nothing to do with council right yes sir thank you sir and so we have a motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative salcido to approve voting is open representative salcido thank you and the item has been approved unanimously with representative rodriguez not present next item is item 34 and this is a discussion in action that the city council ratified the award of contract 2022-0476 records management software to central square technology south llc the sole distributor for the records management software second motion made by representative rivera seconded by representative molinar to approve voting session is open okay um i'm sorry i have a question on this item i don't know appropriate person is on the line um so i guess this is for el paso police department correct fire fire okay i was just going to ask about body camera storage but that doesn't make any sense anymore thank you thanks sorry mayor thank you we have a motion in a second representative can we get you to cast your vote representative rodriguez would you like to vote on this it's item 34 yes an item has been approved unanimously next item is an ordinance item 35 and it's an ordinance calling a bond election to be held in the city of el paso texas on november 8 2022 making provisions for the conduct of the election and resolving other matters incident and related to such election move to approve okay and i believe there is a floor amendment is there legal on the line or no legals right here i think mr juan gonzalez no i think we have uh mr uh sam rodriguez on the line yes mayor samuel is chief operations officer yeah the the the amendment that is uh for proposition related to the climate change is will be to include on the fourth line it should read with designing constructing and proven renovating expanding enhancing and equipping and the amendment will be adding the word existing to the ordinance um that's the recommended amendment to this to this item there's a presentation if council would like to hear it yes please can bring that up please in this presentation is for calling for the bond election in november of this year it's 2022 community progress bond this presentation will cover um and summarize the presentations that have been presented to council over the last several council meetings uh related to the final recommendations that were approved or directive that were approved by city council two two weekends two uh two council meetings ago or july 5th i'm sorry next slide please to summarize the public input we've been meeting with the public since early spring to really focus on or you have the community chime in as to what were the priorities for the community and you see the various breakdowns with the overwhelming support of supporting safe high quality complete streets as a primary and ultimately discussions and the directives that we received from council was to focus the program the bond program mainly on the street side with the directive also to begin the discussions and and the background work for a quality of life bond two years from this upcoming november next slide there will be three propositions um that would show that will show up in the november ballot um initiate the november election uh proposition a which focuses on streets that's 246 million 488 480 000 we have proposition b which will be 20.8 million related to parks facilities and this will also include the neighborhood improvement program the next round and then proposition c will be 5.2 million now to clarify the city council did um direct staff to combine propositions a and c uh at the last council meeting and in discussions with uh legal counsel um the recommendation and that we're making today is that we leave it at three propositions because they're the subjects are are very much different um and from a legal standpoint and uh being able to push these three is is the recommendation that we're making to council today next slide the total bond program will be 272 million dollars next slide please with 90 percent of it going to streets eight percent to park and rec to include the nip program and then two percent for the climate action plan and sample projects next slide this is the breakdown of the various projects and i'm going to go into detail as the presentation goes on next slide within the street infrastructure um the breakdown is 135 million for the top 50 arterial programs uh roadways and corridors um and i'll show you a breakdown of that it includes reconstruction some quarters will be reconstructed but mainly it will be the resurfacing that will be accomplished with this 135 million we're also recommending or including 35 million dollars for residential resurfacing 52 million for connectivity and 15 million that would address traffic signals as well as intersection safety improvement program next slide for the 135 million for top 50 arterial program we're looking at 90 million dollars for resurfacing and 45 million dollars for reconstruction of various corridors that have very low pci pavement condition index levels the criteria that was used again we presented to city council the the payment condition index results and that's ultimately what led to the recommendations that we're making and including in this bond proposition again focusing on the very low pci is understanding that this is a 10-year rollout and some of the roads that may be a little bit not in horrible condition today anticipating that five six seven eight years from now we anticipated deterioration to continue and being able to have those funds available for those corridors um is what's being recommended and included uh just to clarify the improvements um will not be end to end on all these corridors there's specific segments that are detailed in this presentation next slide this is the table that was presented to city council with the various um payment condition index to include the low the high and the averages through the corridors and with this program we're basically touching 46 of the 50 corridors there's four quarters that we're not going to touch and those have very high pci levels as well as our concrete paved such as the case on airway and country club next slide next couple of slides we'll show you on the top 50 arterial segments they're ragged by the traffic volume not necessarily in the priority that they're going to be done we're going to work very closely again with the utilities to ensure that we're resurfacing that they're getting the work out of the way or as part of our contract as part of these projects so the actual rollout of these of these roads and and how they're going to be executed over the next 10 years will be presented if the bond passes as part of a rollout presentation uh again using the criteria that we always use pci information utility clearances as well as there any other improvements that we want to maximize and ensure that we're getting the most benefit of these out of these public investment that we're doing into our roadway within these tables you will also see the segments that are being proposed for reconstruction in this case you see pebble hills from saragosa to rich beam has a paint condition index of 11.4 very much in need of reconstruction the threshold if you will typically any road that's under a 20 pci we're looking at that as a complete reconstruction and that's some of the recommendations that are included next slide stable has 16-27 again with four other corridors that are looking to be reconstructed to include airport road um george theater a visa assault i'm sorry um as well as rojas next slide uh this has 28 through 42 it includes a reconstruction segment in carolina from fragment to north loop and you see the the balance of these segments will be resurfaced next slide and then this is 42 through 50 that will include the reconstruction of honda pass from dire to diana next slide this map will show you all the different segments that will be touched through our community you can pretty much see that we're going all across the city limits touching the main corridors within our city with various segments next slide with a 35 million resurfacing for residential program we're looking at again a 10-year 3.5 million dollars per year this will be accumulated and be part of or included in the 7 million residential program to have a 10.5 million dollars dedicated for residential streets um the criteria and what we've been using to present to council on this two year programs that we've been taking for approval has been pci data of course as well as utility clearances and then geographic locations as well a lot of the complaints that we typically get as well if we do a road and we don't do the road right next to it that have very similar pavement condition index the neighborhood comes or the neighbors do come out and question why that road was down and not theirs and that's where the geographic location criteria also comes into play next slide and it will be based on criteria we will be developing the recommendations and bringing those to council every two years um in conjunction with the pago we'll be looking at a total of ten point five million dollars and just to to clarify the seven million dollar pago money that has already been in place the previous programs that have been presented to council uh have the allocation of funding from fiscal years 22 23 and then just under 2 million is in 24. so the next batch for 7 million next batch of streets will include fiscal years 24 and 25 as well as potentially the 3.5 million if this bond passes for those three years next slide the connectivity um that's included in the bond program we look to address extensionism of corridors to alleviate congestions and provide access um through parts of the city uh one is the in the northwest the wrestler connection there's a lot of development that's happened north of trans mountain uh and uh and east of i-10 with mainly like one point of connection that comes out of this neighborhood so one of the the issues that we're addressing here is connectivity as well as safety access for emergency for emergency services uh another area that we're including here is the monwood extension this is in partnership with the county and counties uh actually developing the design uh the design documents um as we speak and so if this mount passes city will be constructed we'll also been in discussions with the property owners to develop a plan for annexation as this segment is is not currently within the city limits but the connectivity is very important for city residents as we as the city limits uh basically encircle this square here uh and this connection is very critical for to alleviate a lot of the congestion that happens on the east side the upper east side of the city and then in the central part of the city as well providing additional connectivity to the mission valley by the extension of airway looking at potential extension to industrial as well as down to delta next slide with the 15 million dollars allocated for signalization and traffic safety improvements we're looking at a 1.5 million annual allocation that would look to address primarily the warranted intersections uh signalized intersections so in this case we have a backlog of six of five intersections i'm sorry uh five intersections that currently need a traffic signal that currently there's no funding allocated for so this will provide the annual funding we typically can do about three signalized intersections for 1.5 million so the first couple years we'll be addressing these intersections and then moving forward an additional two or three typically become warranted every year and any remaining funds will be used for the intersection safety improvement program that the city council has has seen and approved funding for on an annual basis as well so that will go to augment uh that particular program as well next slide again this is the intersection safety improvement you know presentation was given to council back on april 26 to show you some of the improvements that will be included with this funding will include geometric improvements at intersections to better align and and with the sole purpose to reduce the amount of accidents that happen at these intersections potentially modifying signals as well add additional signal heads signage lighting and striping as well as in-ground markings are part of the proposed improvements depending on the typical intersection and the cause that have been identified for those accidents next slide within the parks focus we have 20 million dollars that's been allocated we're looking at 10 million dollars for an all-abilities program uh shade structures for 5 million and in the neighborhood improvement program for 5 million as well next slide the all abilities program playground um this will be part of the program that's currently ongoing there's currently three other sites under construction at chauver park joey barasa as well as the east side sports phase two will have all abilities playground this 10 million dollars what's been included here in this bond program will be a very significant and large facility that will be a regional attraction for all the residents within the city uh we'll be selecting the site here's if this bond passes and working with the community but also looking to see if we can maximize the effect of this this funding with a bigger development as well that could really uh magnify the impact of the public investment with the understanding that access from a regional standpoint will be the key primary uh criteria as to where to locate this facility five million dollars to prevent additional shade structures and we'll be looking at adding struct uh shade structures to playgrounds picnic areas benches and bleachers at various parks we're looking at doing at a minimum eight sites per district and when we say additional eight structures per district uh if there are certain parks for example that have two playground structures picnic tables and whatnot we want to take the opportunity to go through that and do a selection based on the criteria that you have here before you which is equity usage permit area permit data service gaps as well as higher populated areas we want to make sure that we get into the park and we address all these facilities that are in place so if there's two again two playground structures that we're able to cover both of them picnic tables bleachers and whatnot so that we can complete the sites in a way that allows for the community to see uh and and relay the groundwork for the for the much bigger bond program that would address additional sites in two years from now next slide just as an example of what the thought is behind the all-abilities program it could be a very significant one um that would be themed um this this particular one that's here is actually constructed in utah uh we'll be designing our our own for our community with our own theming um but it's it's this level of a facility that we'll be looking to to provide for our community a very exciting project next slide and then within the climate action focus we're looking at 5 million for the climate action urban energy plans as well as sample uh projects to implementation projects to present to the community next slide within the climate action plan there are multiple things that get addressed and that will be included as far as goals and policy recommendations to city council for both public improvements as well as private developments and they look to address things like transportation public health previous areas in providing that public space for our community to get outdoors obviously trails bike lanes all in keeping in mind with the with the public health as well given that recreational opportunity we're looking at from a climate action standpoint looking at food source as well food security for the community and obviously energy savings and and the heat item effect will be addressed as part of those goals as well next slide this is intended to be a 10-year rollout that's what's been modeled into the debt model that robert will cover here in a minute uh totaling 202 272.48 million dollars and this does include the bond cost as well as the two percent for the arts next slide robert i'm going to turn it over to you for the next couple slides thanks sam okay so members of council you've seen these slides several times presented only by sam but by myself as well and so this is just breaking down the remaining amount of bonds to be sold over the next several years totally in that far right hand column just over 407 million primarily related to the public safety bond projects and as well as the mpc project the last remaining project within the 2012 part of life bond package on the next site please and so as we develop our debt model there's a lot of assumptions built into into the bottle and so this again is intended to provide an estimate of what the potential impact can be and i want to be very clear that this is the potential impact uh this is not a guarantee or a commitment that this is what the impact will be for sure again it's based on a lot of different assumptions and as sam mentioned this is over a 10-year time period in which these bonds would be sold and so incorporated into those assumptions is obviously the cash flow the amount that we have expected for each of the years uh interest rates future property value growth uh debt refinance savings that we would be able to take advantage of and then as we retire old debt that is factored into the model as well on the next side please a couple of points though again about how we manage overall debt related to the bonds and doing everything we can to keep the capital project costs down we have refinanced just within the last year alone we did a couple of refinancings saved about 21 million dollars overall since 2015 just over 67 million refinancing again taking advantage of those low interest rates on refinancing those old bonds and then at the same time taking advantage of last year as well issuing new money for the projects and really taking advantage of almost historically unprecedented interest rates at just over two and a half percent we've also seen strong property value growth in the current year and so that's factored into the future years as well but the 2012 street cip again allowed us to put that 15 million dollars back into a savings on the overall debt management program and then as i mentioned we continue to monitor cash because we only want to issue the debt when we need it to ensure we're being very very cognizant in everything we can do potentially to keep that debt rate down over the next several years and then on my next slide it's important to point out as well since we did go through a 413 million public safety bond back in 2019 and we did the same thing that were then that we're doing now presenting what the program looks like the rollout looks like and then also talking about what the potential impact could be back in 2019 at that time we were projecting the debt model to hit close to 40 cents and so we had expected overall with the issuance of all of those public safety bonds back then to get us close to 40 cents well based on all of the savings we've been able to generate based on the property value growth based on the interest rates that i just talked about the overall impact now is about over eight cents less than what we had originally expected including the current debt which includes the public safety bond projects and so right now i'm going to show you a slide just a minute of what the overall impact is going to look like but incorporating the november 2022 bond cost of what sam just presented the 272 million would add approximately 2.7 cents it would take us to a total of 34.3 maximum on the debt rate which is well below almost 6 cents below the current amount allowed for the debt management policy and the next slide please and so this slide uh two lines here the bottom yellow line is the current debt so that's the 407 million dollars that i talked about a couple of slides ago uh primarily related to the future instruments of public safety bonds as well as the mpc project and you can see that under the current amount we had a maximum of about 31.6 cents on the debt rate in the year 2027 incorporating what the impact is again about 2.7 cents from a november 2022 bond election of just over 272 million would put us at a maximum rate of 34.3 cents in the year 2029. and so you can see uh at the top there that 40 cent that is the current maximum amount amount allowed for our debt management policy and so incorporating these potential november 2022 bond costs into the program still keeps us well below the overall 40 cents the potential impact and again i say potential because again there's a lot of assumptions built into the model a potential impact is estimated right now at approximately 63 a year and again that's a potential based on the assumptions we have built into the model and so with that i'll now turn it over to laura kuzie costa thank you robert so on the next slide we'll go over some of the public outreach plan in terms of what we're going to be doing once this item goes to the ballot we'll be reaching out of course through our traditional media outlets working on press releases and story pitches along with developing reaching out to our partners in excellence we'll be hosting events with the neighborhood associations hosting community meetings and civic organizations we'll also be working to develop a microsite on the city's website and additionally we'll be providing to you all in terms of social media posts and information in general along with geographic ads depending on the location of the community meetings that we'll be hosting and of course through our your city and five city tv then fact fridays efforts and city council newsletters accordingly the proposed um meetings that we provided for you early late or late last week we reached out to ural's offices and are working on finalizing the final plan for the community meetings with each of your districts we have two tentative located here um that are going to be or reprogrammed and so the first meeting will actually take place in september with representative molinar in your district area of course this is just the beginning in terms of the community meeting we'll be having a host a large host of community media outreach between now and when early voting begins in late october and that concludes the presentation for the record that was laura acosta cruz yes and um and we do have a motion we do have a couple of council members now these items will be on the for the voters individually or as one item three items okay three different propositions there okay a b c and d the streets streets parks and climate action plan thank you for that yes sir representative hernandez followed by representative rodriguez thank you all for the information i have um questions for mr rodriguez and mr cortinas mr rodriguez based on your estimates not including the pay go funds the existing funds for streets as it relates only for residential streets do you have a a rollout plan on how many streets will get done per year and then b do you have an estimate of how many streets can be completed within 35 million and harold and richard i'm not sure if you're on the line but you know just based on what we was approved for fiscal year 22 um we were able uh to to allocate 20 million dollars this fiscal year as part of the operating budget and we included 100 streets to give you an idea of of um just on an average the the challenge is you know with with residential streets uh we want to focus on centerline miles and really start promoting that that aspect of it because there's certain segments of streets that are really long and otherwise are pretty short depending on the area that we're working in but just to give you an idea about 20 miles 20 million on average was allowed us to do about 100 streets this fiscal year so with 35 35 million dollars can't do the math real quick in my head but we're probably looking at 175 streets is what we'll be able to do with this 35 million dollars for 35 million and i think that's a more accurate way to communicate that because when you start to say well we only got 100 streets for 20 million dollars really the the the best outcome here the best benchmark here is to determine the centerline miles you're right there are residential streets that are significantly longer and there's others that maybe encompasses two to four houses right um okay so with that said um is there a what i want to do is hold the administration to a timeline on when these streets will be rolled out residential streets are you looking at a motto of five years or 10 years the the model as we've been developing and taking to council has been two-year programs um and so we would anticipate doing the same thing with this 3.5 and really combining that with the seven million dollar pay go that's currently allocated annually uh to come up with two year uh two-year programs um that would basically total uh 21 million dollars could be 10.5 million annually so we'll be taking 20 million dollars every two years worth of streets um to the council for recommendation on on as far as uh being able to uh approve the program uh on an every two year basis again i think um [Music] providing that you know much further ahead on the residential side i think limits our ability to coordinate with utilities and ensuring that we're recovering our bases from from the data standpoint but that's that's the recommendation that we're making it's something that's worked over the last uh four years since we started the seven million dollars program and something that we recommend that we continue to do would be to do a two-year programs as part of this this this bond to include the seven million dollar payable funds okay so to translate that as relates to the rollout if the bond passes you're going to have one allocation that's already your the funding which equates to about 10.5 million that's the annual allocation we have and then in addition to that if the bond passes then you want to allocate additional 10 million dollars a year so that you would have a total of about 20 million dollars a year just for streets every 20 let me let me explain that um much simpler way um so every year with this if this bond passes for residential will have 10.5 million dollars available for residential only and the program that the streets that get included the program will be developed for a two-year cycle so it will be taking a a council action to approve you know as an example if we this passes for fiscal years 24 and 25 we will take uh a two-year program to council for approval that would be basically for 21 million dollars two years worth of funding but the program will include will be for two years and that allows us to really work the community in different areas and have a much bigger impact that way okay no i understand now so you're you're bringing a two-year package um for residential streets um one year would be 10 million two years would be 21 million so we can expect to have two year allocations of 21 million council would look at the streets based on the pavement and then we would approve in the future of the bond passes correct okay but that only a portion of that would be bond dollars correct 3.5 million uh annually will be bond seven million pay go uh will be part of the program but that's that's part of the operating budget okay so then i guess in the future let's talk about what the rollout would be um because you know because the 2012 cos i it was you know i was just concerned it would take too long i mean here we are in 2022 just kind of closing up that budget and so if it's going to be 10 years then then that means that we need to be more aggressive with with pushing out the streets which is which is certainly a good indicator for our community because that's what they want um so there more streets will be done in a time period of 10 years i have to do the math on that a little bit more to to understand what the annual what's going on just a quick some quick history the reason why that took so long is because in the beginning there was a lot of back and forth with the council at the time on the list of streets and so the pci really has helped to clear that up and that's what this council has worked with is this pavement condition index so the timing of it is a lot faster because i know that when you and several others came on the council you are very aggressive let's get these streets done and so in the last five years there's there's been a slew of streets done and we've done over 400 streets the last seven or so years so it's been it's been it's been quite incredible what the communi the capital improvement department has been able to do the last three to five years as opposed to the three years before that yeah no i don't disagree and my hope is that um depending on how many streets can get done you know in the next 10 years you know i'm hoping anywhere from 700 to 1000 streets residential streets based on my calculations on previous assumptions on the 7 million the 7 million could equate to about 55 to 60 60 streets and just based on the pego and then the bond funding i think we can achieve that that'll be a goal um that we can strive for still again it's just depending on like the amount that they do on the street because some are longer right just just i know right yes ma'am it's easier to communicate than right right in our lives i just want to make sure we're being clear with you all right but i understand what you're saying and we'll make sure that we uh we when we go out to the community that we develop this section a little bit more so that it's it's very clear for the public well how this is going to roll out from the 3 point 35 million residential representative and then one thing i just wanted to highlight is i'm starting to get more and more requests regarding the type of materials that we're using on pavement as it relates to climate action and so my hope is that if the bond allocation for climate action implementation is approved then in tandem with the street bond we can look at what materials we can use not only to scale the number of streets but to also help reduce the heat that we're generating from our pavement and so i just want to plant the seed now i know that's long longer future conversations but it is something that's becoming more popular something and but like we need to be real if it's going to be an exorbitant amount of funds then we need to understand what kind of impact that would be to the overall budget and plan but i wanted to share that with you so i don't have any other questions for you mr rodriguez thank you for the information mr cortines um i wanted to ask you about the your the model that you shared today there there is also a formula i recall from the debt management plan that looks at all revenues excluding enterprise fund revenues and then and then looking at the debt issuance so i know our debt management policy sets a cap at 40 cents but how does that translate to that other formula that we're required to adhere by by the debt management policy and the percentage of debt we're issuing yeah so it's a percentage of the overall property valuations we're we're well below that and again that's the city policy we're also well below the state charter of 10 of our overall net taxable property values and so we're well below that i believe at the end of the last school year we're around two percent so we're well below it's all of those limitations so so there's a 10 of all revenues be below the 10 of all revenues that's no no the state law is 10 of your property taxable values property taxable values okay so we're well we we're well well below that amount right now okay okay no that's helpful thank you i just wanted to clear that up now related to the your model that you've demonstrated here today and i'm happy that you brought that forward because i am getting questions about that is that an annual um expect expectant of the fee of the excuse me the increase if the bond passes or is this at the highest point of the debt service model at in 2029 it's an average i took an average of the lowest to the highest essentially so it starts off relatively minimal as far as the overall impact and so if you look at what stan presented on slide number 25 it shows the 10-year roll-out so in the first year we're projecting 29 million and then continuing to ramp up so the overall impact on homeowners in the first couple of years it's minimal so it's in the first year in 2022 at zero in the following year it's two dollars and then it goes up to nine and then 21 35 51 at the peak the maximum will be approximately a hundred dollars but that's not until 2033 and so what i did just to give an idea on overall on the life of these bonds on average it's going to equate to an impact of about 63 okay know that that helps me communicate that better so you're looking at the low to high but in the first from what i understand the first four or five years uh the first year there will be no impact the next fiscal year there will be an impact 2023 at three dollars a year two dollars and then nine dollars and then 21 dollars and so it's really not until you get into years seven and eight nine where you start seeing you start hitting that average of 63 a year okay now does your debt model look at the current conditions of interest rates or are you looking at potential refinancing options in the future with more stabilized interest rates so it does build in as far as interest rates it starts at six percent goes up to seven percent in the outer years again these are all potential impacts these are all again assumptions that we're building into the model we don't want to present worst case but we don't want to also present overly optimistic and rosier projections than what they could be so we do have seven percent interest rates built in into the model we have a very conservative property valuation growth built into the model the model and what i showed does not incorporate and it does not again incorporate any future refinancings and so the reason for that is those refinancings are all dependent upon market conditions it's all dependent upon interest rates at that time and so we never want to be overly aggressive as far as trying to to portray potential savings when it may not be there and so the model again that i showed and again i'll just be very very clear that it's a potential so i wouldn't say it's worst case but this is i mean once we look at i talked about what we saw with the public safety bond impact has ended up being much much less than what we originally presented and what we projected back three and a half years ago and so i i would forecast that i would project predict that the impact would end up probably being much less than one percent but obviously we want to make sure that we're being again conservative and what we're presenting not into the council but to the community as well and the potential impact no that's helpful because i do believe you're being overly conservative but i've seen worse conditions that we were never expecting so i appreciate that disclosure but it is my hope that even though there would be an average impact of 63 that could be significantly less um granted that the market conditions are favorable to the city and lower interest rates so i'm optimistic that that could be achieved um in the next roll out of the funds when we're issuing the debt those are all my questions thank you mr cortinas i hope council will approve this and allow the voters to decide thank you representative nunnis and i know mr cortina is your model you know can only show based on forecasted debt moving forward and obviously anything could change at any at any time based on debt and things that will move forward in the next 10 years and with that we have representative rodriguez thank you mayor so i have a couple of questions robert um or laura i don't know this presentation that you all are having at our in our districts for community meetings is this the presentation that you all will be presenting no ma'am no ma'am um we are working on a public presentation which will include much of the information that we provided today but it'll also include additional information for example some of the questions that um representative um hernandez brought forward in terms of including and making sure that the community understands what it is that we're bringing forward um and then of course anytime the community also provides any additional questions if we see trends in terms of questions we always amend the questions okay the reason i'm asking is because i feel like this is very thorough as far as like what the proposition is it does a really good job at explaining it and then the most important part what is it going to cost us um it explains all of that and so with that will it be who's going to be doing the community meetings can you say that last part who's going to be doing the community meetings it's a different it's variety of different folks that we're we're calling upon it'll be sam um robert um yvette hernandez alex hoffman um various folks who have been involved in the development of this process okay thank you and so sam my question for you is when can we expect to see the extensions to start when approved or if approved the uh are you talking about the mon wood extension airway and wrestler yes yes um so the as as i mentioned in the presentation the the mom would extension is is already under design uh with the county and so we would anticipate that to uh kind of take the lead if you will on the reconstruction site uh because the the design documents um pretty close um to complete in the beginning of 2024 we're currently working with the property owners as well um to develop a study that will help fully and form an annexation plan for those properties in conjunction with the development of the project so that that will that will start um pretty much right away on the hmong wood extension and then wrestler and airway will begin a design and property acquisition process if the bond passes because those will be funded 100 by the city okay so from the three the malt wood extension is the first that we should see or we've already begun to see the roll out of it yes because the design has already started and again it's being funded by the uh the county okay and then as far as the the pci um study that we did when are we going to see those results those results were actually presented on july 5th um we certainly um take those uh to the community media we can sit down at a separate meeting with you and show you more information in more detail but if you go to the july 5th presentation i'll be happy to send you send it to you so you can see the results of that that was presented and ultimately that was the basis of the recommendation that you have before you on the top 50 arterial program hey sam if you don't mind resend that to the entire council please absolutely we'll do sir and then when will you start making the new recommendations for the ones that we're already paying for annually for like 20 23. right so um as i mentioned the there's been a list that's already been approved uh and we presented that in in detail street street presentations and the funds for fiscal year 23 of the 7 million dollars has already been allocated so there's a list out there that we're working on for right now and then that list will actually spill a little bit over into 24 but next year we will be taking a new two-year cycle uh and and will include this bond money 3.5 million annually if it passes in november so that you'll see that list in the beginning of 23. so in january we should see that presentation okay correct okay that is all for me thank you thank you thank you representative thank you very much mayor mr rodriguez thank you very much for your presentation i know on slide 10 there's different top 50 arterial segments and railroad is listed one in district four and that pretty much covers a street called fara to angora loop and i understand it needs work it really does but on railroad itself another portion of that would be like from loop 375 to deer i'm not sure the exact mileage of that but i believe it's very similar so i don't know if you could be able to move that or concentrate more like i said from loop 375 to deer get a lot of calls on that particular um portion of railroad and i've not really received any calls reference fair to angora loop so just for consideration uh representative molinar and again i'll send you the full detailed street presentations that we regularly give two three four times a year to council that segment that you referenced on railroad is already funded for reconstruction with federal dollars um and i i won't speak off the top of my head to tell you the timeline but i'll send that to you as a follow-up um that's already programmed and funded through federal dollars all right thank you very much sir you're welcome thank you and with that we have a motion in a second i have that representative hernandez moved and seconded by representative salcido is that right yes yes and if we can make sure that we include the revision as well that was right into the record thank you correct and did you open the motion and that would be the revision to proposition c to add the word existence to in front of city facilities i move to prove as amended recommend it thank you can we vote on the on the amendment first yes ma'am my my motion is just to approve it is that okay can have a second oh yeah representative do you accept the sec the voting session is open representative molinar thank you and the item has been approved unanimously thank you item 36 is an ordinance granting special permit to allow for infill development and this is for the property located at 7764 and 7768 hockney street do we have a motion to approve motion made and there's no public comment motion made by alternate mayor pro tem lisaraga seconded by representative salcido to approve voting session is open representative rodriguez can you cast your vote please thank you and the item has been approved unanimously item 37 is an ordinance changing the zoning for 541 schwab street from r3 residential to rf ranch and farm to rf residential representative molinard mayor um recently we received information that perhaps all of the residents in there were not properly notified even though there was opposition to it so i like to move to postponing for two week period can we hear from staff first because i believe uh they had or there's a special uh staff on mr garcia yes sir yes followed ourselves planning inspections uh so this this item was uh brought back to city plan commission a second time um specifically to address that confusion regarding notice it was properly notified again through that uh second presentation to city plan commission which did happen i believe last month okay so you haven't notified them then it has been notified everybody within 300 feet was notified in fact uh three residents did show up to the meeting to to voice their their comments in person and i know this is the information you had given me before so i've i find that what was what you were told was different is different mr representative you want to ask me say that again please i said i know that you had heard something different but this is exactly what we we did before that that's why it came back up well like i said either way i did receive notice that certain people were not notified can you um can you give us the parameters for a notification and what uh what was done follow those parameters please yes sir just like in any other rezoning case all property owners within 300 feet of the subject property are notified directly by mail a minimum of 10 days prior prior to the city plan commission additionally there's a second notice that goes out upon approval of the introduction of the item also to all property owners within 300 feet of the subject property and in this particular case within those 300 feet there were a total of 34 notices 34 property owners that that uh that did go out and were notified directly by by mail and then that's when you that's when you got the four letters off position correct yes sir we did get one phone call as well as three people again showing up in person to the meeting um after being notified of the city plan commission uh meeting okay thank you thank you thank you for that uh we do have a public comment go ahead and then we do have public comment after hey i will thank you no public comment no public nobody signed up to speak yeah i think he'd been waiting to speak on it um he might have not signed up but we'll take representative first yeah so raul just looking at the backup um so the item is to re-zone from r3 in ranch farm but the backup says that there's a certain that part of it is actually g3 um so i'm wanting to know what exactly we're rezoning here so it says from r3 and rf to r5 but the backup says differently the backup says it's r3 and g3 because it doesn't look like uh farmland to me so it's gonna be really clear right so um the the current property is currently split zoned between uh ranch farm and r3 residential there are two zoning districts on on the property the request is to go from r3 that r3 and that rf range farm to r5 residential the g3 is uh designates the future language map designation g3 post war in terms of the comprehensive plan the plan has designated this particular area g3 post war and again the proposed rf proposed zoning does fall in line with the overall g3 post war classification based on our comprehensive plan okay um and the conceptual plan is really hard to understand um i don't know if you're aware with our new software it's really hard to zoom in and understand and there's not a lot of actual information on the backup it's just a lot of uh images so i'm just trying to understand what the conceptual plan is yes ma'am so again it is purely conceptual again this is just uh the rizoni um the property does have to be planted so a plant will be forthcoming um i believe it's already been submitted um and is in process to be presented to city plan commission but again today on the table is is a rezoning in terms of the conceptual plan it does show three lots three lots with uh three single family homes it is uh important to note that based on depending on the size of those lots uh r5 does allow duplexes so the option will be there once it's rezoned for either single family and or duplex development okay yeah i guess that's what i was trying to understand because yarbor is a thoroughfare and we've talked a lot about you know increasing density and multi-use would definitely be great on this thoroughfare and so i wasn't sure if we knew that they were trying to do single family or duplex um because i think you know more the more units the better i was gonna ask what the three letters of opposition are but i know that we have a member of the public for well there's one phone call and three letters or i'm turning getting that backwards um but i we have a member of the public so i'm sure that i will find out in a second so those are all my questions for right now thank you raul thank you ma'am please sir would you like to state your comments state your name for the record and you have three minutes good afternoon i'm john hogan i live on schwabe street i spoke to a couple of my other neighbors and they had told me that they had not received a notice that that lot was being rezoned i think more of our concern is what is it being rezoned to i heard uh miss anello say that it was going to be a duplex or it could be so that's what we're looking for is a little more clarity on what someone plans to build there what is their intentions because if we just let someone go put r5 they might stand here and say i'm going to do a duplex but if r5 allows them to put up two-story 15-unit apartments in a residential neighborhood we're going to have a problem and the neighbors have opposed that in the past at least two or three times that i know of because i've been here to where someone is trying to build apartments in the residential neighborhood and that's what we're trying to keep from happening is we want to keep that farm neighborhood area looking like a farm neighborhood area and not open it up to multi units to where there's 10 15 16 unit apartments in there it's a residential neighborhood so i'm asking for a postponement of any decision today so i can gather up some more neighbors and we can make a good decision on hey we're cool with a duplex or maybe a quadruplex or if we know that someone's planning on putting in your like big multi-unit apartments there then you know people are going to come down and voice their opinions against it building something like that me do we have on what uh is being built on what is being proposed yes so um again the resulting is to r5 r5 is the request r5 does not permit apartments um the most you can do in an r5 is duplexes either single family and or a duplex so again based on the size of the property based on the plat um that that i believe has been submitted and again very similar to the conceptual plan uh proposal is for three lots so uh maximum density at this point would be six units which which would be a twoplex on each of those one uh three lots again apartments are not permitted um there's no way they could do apartments in an r5 is just not permitted by code thank you thank you mr hogan mate thank you sir i wanted to stay up there mr hogan guarantee you this is what was right before me and i too am really a stickler for not having apartments during you know in residential areas like this but i was told it was gonna be duplexes and that's why uh i support the issue and uh he's telling you so roll just just to satisfy you a little bit uh hopefully satisfy you a little bit further mr garcia i would like to see a detailed side plan before prime minister arya should please and and uh for duplex that uh the applicant told us who he was gonna do yes sir uh that abandonment can definitely be made on the ordnance prior to sign yes sir okay uh can they provide that to you before you guys make a solid decision we can uh will it will it uh send him back oh you know what we can postpone it for two weeks it'll be they'll be sufficient mr garcia second so we have a motion over here in a second yes sir either way too much okay thank you so thank you mr hogan okay mr garcia we can and then we can have show mr hogan and the group uh did you attend the meeting that they had sir no i did not okay and so maybe some did and i didn't right know about it but no problem uh we'll get together my staff was here right now we'll we'll get you together with you and and have you uh you know see the detailed side plans in that okay i'll be in touch thank you hello uh this is the representative for the owner may i have a couple of words please sure mr mason you have uh three minutes please can you state your name state your name please my name is sal massoud with del rio engineering i represent the owners on this rezoning and i just understood or heard that you have postponed for two weeks however i am not available in two weeks i'm going to be out of the country if if you must you know postpone it can we postpone it for four weeks four weeks would be absolutely sure no problem that's one request and the second thing is i just want to assure you know mr hogan and anybody else in the room that the client my client has no intention even on building duplexes he wants to do single family homes it's a family thing it's for him and his brother and another family member they just want to build houses on it that's the intention and we've already submitted the plaque to the city of el paso to confirm that so we're running the flat you know in in in sync with the reasoning to affirm and confirm that this is the intention that the client wants to do okay so would you like to amend your motion sir um sure we can we can we can postpone for four weeks please we initially had a motion made by rep there was no second on it there's no second on it okay so he's amending his motion for four weeks four seconds four okay so motion made by representative rivera seconded by representative salcido okay we we need the second uh mended motion and do we have a second on it second thank you going for four weeks do you want to vote on the amendment first or just approve it no no we're moving we're going to move to i mean to postpone as a mandate yeah that's how we're going to vote on yeah okay before to postpone for four weeks yes ma'am and the voting is open representative salcido would you like to vote on this site um or hi rachel and the item has been approved has been postponed for two weeks with representatives four weeks for four weeks and with representative rodriguez not present for the vote thank you thank you everyone thank you mr garcia we'll be in contact mr hogan thank you thank you sir the next item is item 39 and that's discussion and action that the city manager be authorized to submit an application to the office of the governor texas military preparedness commission for the defense economic adjustment assistance grant move to approve second motion made by representative molinar seconded by representative vanello to approve voting session is open and the item has been approved unanimously with representative rodriguez not present for the vote next item is item 40 and this is discussion and action on the resolution to approve the creation of court 5t a temporary court that will be presided over by associate judges is assigned by the presiding judge move to approve will we be appointing a temporary judge like we have in other another times miss neiman i will defer to staff at municipal court to determine whether they need that mayor the language implies different i would think we would be the language says that will be presented yes this is really a world um from the municipal court we will be assigning associate judges they will be scheduled on a weekly basis okay so they have sufficient judges thank you let's show you a motion in a second was it salcido representative salcido or lisa who seconded it was either or motion made by representative molinar seconded by alternate mayor pro temblissaraga to approve voting session is open thank you and the item has been approved unanimously next is item 41 discussion action an appeal by the property owner of 1121 terrorist court sunset heights historic district regarding a decision rendered by the historic landmark commission to deny certificate of appropriateness for the reference property move to approve motion made by representative anelo seconded by alternate mayor pro tem blizzard i'm sorry mayor i have a an email i completely forgot an email from a constituent who asked me to read into the public record i don't know okay what did you ask i'm sorry i can't hear you uh sorry i i received an email from a constituent who asked that i i read it into uh the record for public comment if that's okay it's very long um you got three minutes yeah good perfect yeah so let me start the three minutes so dear representative the el paso county historical society that has been preserving el paso's history since 1954 is headquartered in the 1912 texas historic register listed richard burge's house and is located at 603 west jandal within three blocks of 1121 terrace court is appalled at the alterations to make the property without certificates of appropriation from the historic preservation office the alterations obliterated the original characteristics of the property and now the antithesis antithesis i can't say that word of both the spirit and letter of the city's historic preservation ordinance as spelled out in the staff recommendation the alterations are even more egregious if they were made without building permits of any kind which should trigger a review by the historic preservation office because that would mean they are not approved for safety and code compliance and any increase in value might not have been picked up for ad valorem tax purposes a check of the cad records for 1121 terrorist court shows the owner of record is fairies llc also at that address is tangible business property as m-a-c-h-v-e-h-c-m-p-f-u-r-n-i-n-v owned by ocean pools care of ricardo a fiera and no homestead exemption is claimed the above facts coupled with allegations of other neighbors that a pool service is operated from the address as evidenced by the coming and going of trucks in the morning and evenings could lead one to believe that 1121 terrace court is not a personal residence but is perhaps investment property being used for business purposes in this in his appeal letter and i'm sorry if i'm saying your last name incorrectly mr fiera makes wide-ranging claims of targeting and rampant code violations and lack of compliance with the historic preservation ordinance but provides no supporting evidence that he was targeted and no examples of specific properties that he asserts are in some form of violation with the list of such properties investigations could be made exemptions could be noted such as in existence before historic designation and enforcement actions commenced but as noted no such examples are forthcoming under these circumstances it is impossible to substinate his claims however even if true they justify allowing the violations to be overlooked nobody does the speed limit so why should i have to pay a ticket what message is it sent to other property owners especially the new owners of 510 west yandell who is a building an infill home and has bent over backwards to accommodate the requirements of the historic preservation ordinance and the concerns of the neighbors i have attended a number of landmark commission hearings and most who are caught claim economic hardship when order to remove the non-appropriate changes ironically they all had enough ability to evade the requirements and enough money to make the non-improved changes but not enough to make the corrections one commission member noted that these fast that these facts and asked rhetorically why the ordinances and commission existed if anyone had to do is claim economic hardship to get a pass in summary we at the el paso county historical society find the alterations at 11 21. thank you that was so long i just want to reiterate those were not my personal feelings that was a letter from a constituent that someone asked me to ask i do believe they provide their name for the record yes it's uh fred evans past president and burgess house commission chairman from the el paso county historical society thank you thank you mr mayor if i might go ahead sir uh good afternoon mr mayor um members of council kevin smith with planning inspections my understanding is if you approve this action you are approving the appeal from the um correct from the applicant okay so that's why i'm sure that right that's correct thank you for that clarification i was going to make sure you all knew that because before pull my motion um i i would like some contacts because i will be totally honest and i apologize to council and the city representative um for not being very informed and so i just want to be very clear uh because i also represent two historic districts and i i do believe that there are some instances uh where individuals are pushed out of their neighborhoods because they cannot afford the historical like requirements like you know wood windows is one but from what i'm seeing from the pictures is there are multiple additions that were added onto this property so um it's not that that is not the case right this is not an economic hardship these are improvements that were made without permits and that do not uh follow the historic codes thank you we have um representative um followed by representative lasagna and i think uh we do have public comment we have luis yeah we're gonna i'm gonna do this and then i'll do the public comment mr smith so what you're saying is that uh everything that's why you all granted the the permission for him to go ahead and do the repair work or or is that what it was no no sir the the improvements were done without billing permits um and i can turn it over to tony la cruz with our department who can shed a little more light on it yes but they um provide they constructed these improvements and um in the historic district they did not go through the through the proper channels not only not receiving the permits through our department nor receiving the proper approvals from the uh hlc as well so uh but i believe tony may shed some more light on this yes sir can i hear from mr tony then representative good afternoon mr mayor representatives this is tony that accrues planning inspections and if need be we do have uh providers a historic preservation officer with a quick presentation that can show you more detail but this case was denied but by the historic landmark commission it was taken to the historic landmark commission uh after all the work was done uh at that at that point no building permits had been approved the historic landmark commission denied the application for the certificate of appropriateness and that is the appeal that you're currently hearing the the construction that occurred was primarily a front-facing pergola uh there are some detached pergolas at the rear as well as modifications to uh windows on the perimeter of the structure all all these were done without permits and that's basically what's being appealed at this point uh approval of the appeal as kevin said would basically override the decision what we're recommending at this point is that the decision from the hlc to deny the certificate of appropriateness be upheld okay so so the hlc denied them twice the hlc denied it once at this point they heard it okay so who was the second denial from i'm sorry you you lost me there i thought you were talking about the hlc who denied them who so the hlc denied the application for a certificate of appropriateness for the construction and that construct the certificate of appropriateness was applied for after all the work was already conducted okay so at this point no permits have been issued okay what you're hearing before you are now is the applicant is report requesting that city council overturn the appeal of the hlc thereby granting the certificate of appropriateness the staff is recommending that city council upholds the hlc's denial of the certificate of appropriations gotcha okay thank you so much thank you mayor thank you representative saga thank you thank you mayor and thank you everyone that's concerned about this project i believe that staff has a presentation and i think if you look at the pictures you'll get a clearer view i myself drove by this building and the pictures don't give it justice is all i can say yes so can we see the presentation staff um excuse me if i've made a good afternoon providence of alaska's historic preservation officer i'm going to walk you through the presentation so if you have any questions just let me know um so this item hold on it's not on the screen yet ready there you go it's on there now okay okay so item 41 is an appeal of the historic landmark commission's denial to legalize burke done after the fact at 1121 terrorist court in the sunset heights historic district the property was cited in 2018 for legal construction and was heard by the hlc on june 6 2022 so it took four years to get to the historic landmark commission the historic landmark commission was unanimous in its decision to deny the legalization of the work the property owner has done an extensive amount of construction on the property without getting approvals or permits the construction includes rephase replacing the fencing replacing the windows and doors covering the stonewall stucco construction of a two-story balcony with electricity and the construction of a percolating canopy with electricity in the rear yard in addition the pergola canopy and balcony do not meet or comply with three required setbacks and lastly we also received two emails from property owners in sunset heights asking city council to uphold the historic glamour commission's denial the proposed please let me know if you have any questions mr mayor would you like to call for public comment we have mr luis yanus who would like to address the council you have three minutes sir thank you good afternoon council and mayor my name is luis gianis i represent mr feria the property owner of this building mr freda did provide a proof of the adjacent properties which at least three of them have similar structures in the front including one owned by former council member beto o'rourke if i may put it on the screen for you to take a look at give us one second thank you that uh structure is also at the front of the property uh my client uh yes he uh he took out permits for most of this projects but it's right uh whoever got on the screen a couple of minutes ago is right he did not get him through the historical landmark commissions but he does have a stack of permits here for the fence for the windows for the roof and this were issued by the city of el paso he did expand a lot of funds in making his property the way it is we believe that his property looks and is kept up to date on repairs as opposed to the properties that around that are around his uh house he uh did put stuck on the uh the rock wall why because he was falling down uh it's aesthetic uh that stucco is aesthetic uh it's it looks nice and it prevented that uh wall from coming down sorry i don't mean to drop but we're not seeing no we're not able to we're trying to get it's attention can you can you stop the his time for minutes yes we can get that fixed for him yeah sorry we're not seeing the images you're putting up so i know it's not your fault we need to stop the clock though i'll give it more time thank you i t can you please switch from the clock camera to the main elmo until you take off the center tube okay thank you that is uh can you can you start at the beginning where would you explain on the first one please they didn't have it that's the one he's got right there okay so that is uh a property around the neighborhood that also has a front porch uh pergola similar as to what my client built at his house uh the pictures of the houses around the neighborhood of the house around his property this is another house that's in the neighborhood and all these houses have additions and changes to the original windows as well this is uh another house that's around the neighborhood that's been covered in plaster and it's falling off my client right this is another house that fencing was installed in the front and this is my client's property he keeps it up up to date on repairs and we believe and we're requesting that you approve his appeal so that he may continue to have this and not spend all the money that he had to spend in doing this one of the complaints was that the fencing was too high it comports to the international building code uh it's 42 inches and it's on a balcony and that's exactly what the international building code says so for those reasons we would request for you to consider approving his appeal i would take some out of substantial amount of money uh basically making it historically friendly for my client thank you sir and uh just so you see the building tournament that he did thank you one that's two three five it's my understanding now that permits are not issued because i do own a historic building downtown uh they're not issued unless the historic landmark commission approves it it wasn't the case back then when he did your three minutes are up sir thank you thank you sir is that yeah representative mayor i just have a question for the owner you said it would take a significant amount of money to repair or to to bring it into conformance do you have an estimate of what that would cost and then number two for my first staff um that are on the line were permits allowed where city did the city issue these permits and did the hlc approve these permits and can you explain how the highest prices and yeah the city approved those uh permits and i have in the back of the payment of the permits the the paperwork by the commission the historic commission and the amount i don't know ma'am uh because i mean that's 25 years of work that's 25 years of improving it have you been doing this over the last 25 years yes sir so i i don't know how much money and what are the permits stated the permits once is uh for uh replace the windows replace all windows re-roof now what's the date on them i'm sorry sir replace the windows was january 25th 2005 2005. yes sir the re-roof was april 15 2002. what about the the additional structures to the exterior uh additional structure was oh right here sorry january 25th 2005. and who was the signatory on the hlc approval from history i think that that time was mr unsworth if i remember it doesn't say it's right here um so that so it was a signature from a city employee in 2005 from the historic landmark commission yes yes yes ma'am hi t can you please switch to the elmo main cam thank you excited representative on this thank you uh representative uh salcido and then we'll go to canelo and then we'll come back to you thank you mayor i just have a few questions uh the hlc did they give a a list of what he could possibly do to be in compliance or be able to be acceptable um providencia velazquez uh yes they did and actually if i can just make a few comments before i answer your question uh the first is the house that was shown to you that belongs to beto o'rourke that edition was approved prior to mr o'rourke's purchase of the property it was approved by the previous historic landmark commission for the previous owner so that is completely in compliance and it is legal um secondly after mr fedia's um um supposition that his neighbors have not been targeted that's not quite correct uh his neighbors have been cited also for legal work and third the pre promise that he is showing you were done well before 2018 2018 is when he started the construction of the balcony as far as we know on the pergolas and everything else so the permits he may have um go back several years and they cover things that were not approved after 2018 after he started this construction so everything that he decided the roofing and the windows that may be accurate but the balconies the percolas the stuck wing of the facade and the fencing all that none of that was approved by city staff or the historic memory commission he never got a permit for that but he knew that he had to because you can see from all the permits he received in 2005 he was well aware that he was in the historic district and he needed approval for all of this he never got it as for the historic landmark commission i can read to you their motion okay and it is here just a moment okay it reads this is to certify that the historic landmark commission in its regular meeting scheduled on june 6 2022 reviewed and denied documentation submitted by the owner the locations 1121 terrorist coordinate description it says for certificate of appropriateness for construction of a balcony structure on the main facade after the fact list the recommendations to have the balcony structure be removed the windows and doors be replaced with windows and doors smash the historic windows and doors the fencing be removed and replaced with fencing meeting the guidelines the stuck will be removed from the retaining wall the balcony fencing and suck will be removed within the next 30 days the windows and doors will be replaced within the next 60 days and no permits should be approved for the property until it is in compliance okay and i just have a question so i know that the some of these permits were pulled in 2005 and some of the recommendations meet um or are descriptive to that he won't need to pull permits for the windows correct because that was already issued well it depends on the windows that he's putting in ma'am uh the reason he decided that i think he may have gotten a permit 2005 from your windows and you may remove the ones that were there in 2005 but the new ones you did not get the okay for okay so the windows need um on these this is the updated mirror okay yeah okay those are my only questions thank you thank you representative thank you mayor so i'm going to pull my motion to approve um i am going to make a motion to postpone and i would say that um you know this this item is being uh correct me if i'm wrong prove this item is being submitted by the app that by the gentleman in front of us correct to appeal this right so i think it also sir um i think it's it's your responsibility to provide us with the information right you're saying that you have these permits um you're saying that they're hlc approved you said you had permits from 2005 for windows what material is that correct because i know in the historic district but i think this is documentation that we need to see prior to making this decision um and so with that i'm going to make a motion to post that um and i'm going to you have so you have two weeks right our agenda goes up and and i don't know how it works you go ahead i'm sorry interrupt under the zoning ordinance the council is required to make a decision from the appeal within 60 days okay so you we would recommend against your postponing because it would go past the 60-day deadline so why and why was it just submitted for this council meeting was that per the the individual i don't know but the 60 days is about to run so we would not recommend that you um when is the 60 days up miss neiman miss velasquez can you tell us when the date the 60 days is going to run uh well he submitted this on june 21st so it should be i guess the 21st next week so why why are we seeing this today two weeks prior um we're seeing this on the one hand because um there is an appeal fee that has to go that has to be accompanied by this and mr petty has never paid it um we asked him to pay the fee but it he never did so we had to um basically group and ask this is still legal to bring forward if he is not picked for the appeal that took a lot of time and secondly we have been a little busier than normal but it is within the 60 days and is there any authority mrs neiman to extend that 60 days does council have that authority so pursuant to your ordinance the council has to make a decision within 60 days that's what we're recommending against postponement but we do not have authority in this council to extend that time the way we're reading the ordinance you're required to make the decision within the 60 days though it's been appealed and it's about to run yeah i mean i just i this is super disappointing um because i don't you know they they submitted this application two months ago and now we're just seeing it i will say it is the responsibility of the individual to provide the documentation and i'm not ready to make a decision right now without having all of the facts um yeah so i mean i don't know i made the motion there's a second i don't know what happens missing even on that can they come back on a second appeal if that's if the time uh expires can i ask staff a question briefly uh mr velazquez can you clarify they submitted the application but did not receive payment of the application okay uh no they submitted the appeal because we never received payment for the appeal okay so unless i'm mistaken then you then the application is not complete because you haven't received payment of the application is that correct so well yes please go ahead yes we never received payment um and there was some discussion back and forth as to whether or not we could continue uh because the ordinance does state that if as long as the uh letter submitted city council seeking appeal within 15 days of the decision then it can go forward and has go forward within the next 60. so we aired on the side of caution and we move forward council if you're so inclined to move to postpone the item you can if you need additional information we did provide representative alternate protect the zaragoza with a motion to uphold the decision a motion to overturn the decision and then a motion to uphold in part based on the information that you have been provided with today representative are you withdrawing your emotions i have the first one was to approve and the second one was to postpone two weeks um i have only uh pulled the motion to approve uh the motion to postpone still remains um and i'm going to lean on alternate mayor pro tem to make decisions thank you um yes i just for clarification um do you reside in the house you do yes ma'am okay because i've heard that you are running an airbnb from that house well when i bought that house there were five apartments please speak into the microphone when they were when i bought the house they were five apartments so they are five apartments and you reside in one of them yes okay all right um well i i believe that the historic land commission has done their homework i'm i'm sorry to to to see that you were asked to comply with the city with their permitting and that you did not apply for those permits in a timely fashion and so i'm prepared to make my motion right now we have a motion in a second for a postponement of two weeks the second was by representatives correct we have a motion on the floor which is to postpone for two weeks by representative nello seconded by representative rivera yes ma'am do you still you're not withdrawing yes call for the vote to postpone for two weeks can i make one more comment mayor support me can i make one more comment before we vote yes right um so i just want to say again uh if this passes you have two additional weeks but again it the the onus is on you to provide information right and so um what you have not just permits any kind of emails those are what we need to see to make the decision thank you mayor thank you take a vote please voting is open and the item has been postponed for two weeks with representative lisa borine and representative rodriguez abstaining thank you thank you thank you thank you very much and like representative said uh you need to make sure you have everything and anything that you want us to look at here if not we're going to make a decision based on information that we do have in front of us and i'm sorry i was i'd started to ask the city attorney a question is it okay if i do that well no they add them sober with thank you thank you very much next item is item 42 and this is discussion and action on the resolution that the city reviewed reviewed and approved the issuance of the unlimited tax bond series 2022 by paseo del este municipal utility district number four move to approve motion made by representative hernandez seconded by representative molina to approve voting session is open mayor alternate mayor pretend would you can you please cast your vote we're on item 42 41 and the item has been approved with representative salcido borine and the next item is item 43 discussion and action on a resolution calling for the 2022 general city election in the city of el paso to be held on november 8 2022 to fill the unexpected the expired terms of district representative numbers 1 5 6 and 8 and el paso municipal court judge court number four in making provisions for the conduct of the election second motion made by representative rivera seconded by representative vanello to approve voting session is open thank you and the item has been approved unanimously do we have a motion to retire into executive session motion made by representative one i wanted to see if we wanted to postpone this since representative schwartzbein is not here um i would like to still have a discussion to hear if that's okay if council doesn't want to take action afterwards we can talk about possible okay we have a motion motion made by who made the motion representative molina you moved in i know by seconded by representative hernandez to retire into executive session at 239 and this is to discuss executive session item number one consultation with lawyer um with lawyer regarding city manager and city attorney employment agreements matter number 22-1043-831 and this is under um section 551-071 so the city council of the city of el paso may retire into executive session i think we have to take a vote still okay yes thank you motion is open we already did that we just need to vote okay all those in favor yes all those opposed and we are retiring to executive session at 2 39 the city council of the c of the city of el paso may retire into executive session pursuant to section 3.58 of the el paso city charter at the in the texas government code chapter 551 subchapter d to discuss item executive session one consultation with lawyer regarding city manager and city attorney employment agreements matter number 22-1043-831 section 551.071 240. is okay thank you thank you mayor we have a motion to come out of executive session by representative molinar seconded by alternate mayor pro tem lisaraga item executive session one there's no action motion to adjourn second all those in favor yes all i suppose great job today oh you took over and the meeting has been adjourned at 3 56 pm august 16th