I love it. Okay, we're going to start off. Um, Madame Clerk, we're going to have Vicky Bran Van Beurren lead us in the pledge of allegiance. We think it's appropriate for you to lead us in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, Madame Mayor, if you're good, I'll go ahead and call roll call for item A2. Council member Breis here. Der here. Martinez here. Eert here. Taylor here. Reese here. Shavey here. Madame Mayor, you do have a quorum of the Reno City Council. Okay, before we get into public comment, our first very special public comment, we are excited about who's going to kick this off. We would like to wish Councilwoman Der a very very happy birthday because your birthday is tomorrow. Don't you love that when people out you don't know if I love that, but I I feel it coming from the heart. So, we thought we would start off by singing you happy birthday. Okay. All right. Ready? One, two, three. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Naomi. We got to work on that one to you. Thank you. Yeah, that what's her name thing. No, thank you so much for the flowers, the balloon, the gorgeous card, the heartfelt sentiment. It really means a lot. Um, yeah. I don't usually advertise my birthday too much, but I do celebrate the day. So, I hope to have most of tomorrow off either working in the garden. That's not happening. Cleaning the house, doing something cool. So, playing with pictures. Thank you so much. Well, happy birthday from all of us. Thank you. All right, Madam Clerk, sending it back to you. Thank you, Madam Mayor. All right, we're going to go ahead and open item A3, which is general public comment. It should be noted for those in the audience that comments are to be addressed to the mayor and council as a whole. Comments heard under this item will be limited to three minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the council's agenda. Please note that council may not take action upon any matter not agendaized on today's agenda. When you're called on for public comment, please state your name for the record and begin speaking. The timer will begin when you say your name and you will be afforded three minutes. If you're an attendee in the Zoom meeting and would like to make public comment, please raise your hand at this time. Lastly, while in this room, please be respectful. Warnings will be issued by the presiding officer if there's disrupt disruptive behavior and you will be asked to leave chambers if the behavior continues. Our first public commenter today is Jerry Myth. Good morning. Can I get the Can I get that turn? There's Richard Nixon. Deon Reese. Okay. I really wanted to come up here and try to switch gears and sing you a song, but um uh Mr. Reese got the best of me before this meeting started. He called me homophobic and I called him some names, too. If you're willing to crawl into the mud, that makes you just as dirty as me. So, okay, you need to have some better ethics. Uh let's not be demeaning. Okay. It's almost a year ago that I was thrown out of city city hall meeting here because I was wearing this shirt this open and Mr. Reese said that I was uh inappropriately uh dressed. There is no dress code. There was no dress code and there still isn't a dress code. Jenny stood up for me that day. Chris Peterson of the ACLU said it was troubling what you did in the meeting, the private meeting with the mayor. She would say that if she was here on that day, none of this would have happened. None of what would have happened. None of what you did. You stepped out of line and you were wrong. This all could be ended. For a year, I've been up here up here complaining. This all could have been avoided. I'm embarrassing myself and you if you only would have followed up on the meeting that we said we'd have in the very very beginning after this all took place and you agreed to a meeting then you said what's it going to be about and I said all I want is a personal private apology you never got in touch with me you didn't want to do that two words I'm sorry that's all you had to say man I could be agendaized we when we talked on September 22 7th. That day we did say when Carl said you're getting no money, you said the city council can determine that. Please, you could send me right over there right now and I could be put on an agenda where I could appeal and plead my own case. I still have a case. I have medical records and if I don't look emotionally displaced from that day, believe me, you need glasses because it's upset me. It's really sent me uh spiraling on downward. I still do a lot of work for my fellow seniors and um you could agendaize. I've seen you send people right over there, mayor. And they set up that for me to put me on an agenda. I appealed to you. Let do that. You said that you could and I thought you'd follow up from that meeting and do that. Carl came up to me and said, "You're not getting on any city council meeting." He who's determining what here? Is it you? Is it Carl? or when you speak to me privately, are you breaking the open meeting law when it should be a collective thing? I'm not accusing you of anything, Mayor Shibi. I just want you to send me over there and put me on an agenda and let me plead my own case. It could end all of this because there's no end in sight at this point. Can you do that? Can you agendaize me? Can you Can you send me over there right now? I've seen you do this before, Hillary. You said, "Forget the fact that you said you're my friend." You see what it's put me through. This is embarrassing. Can I get on the jener to speak before the city council? I know this is not a dialogue kind of thing. Can I walk over there and can that happen? You can have any conversation you want with Madame Clerk. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Next. Madame Mayor, we have no additional public comment at this time. Additionally, we have not received any correspondents, so we're closing out item A3, public comment, and moving on to item A4, approval of the agenda. All right. May I get a motion? I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Okay, we're going to move into our B items today, which is item B1, presentation, discussion, and potential direction to staff for the budget of fiscal year 22 23 24. Good morning, Madame Mayor and Vice Mayor Ree and council members. Vicky Van Beern, director of finance, here to give you a budget update for next year's budget. Um, we had a workshop in March and this will be our second workshop as we lead up to budget adoption which would be later this month. And so, um, give me one second to get situated here. I want to start uh today with just saying I appreciate all the support of staff here. It's very nice to to have that. I do want to say that this is a team effort though and it really starts with council. So I want to give you kudos for giving us the direction and the guidance to really make this a fiscally sustainable budget and giving us the guidance that's led up to this over the years that I've been here. I really appreciate that and I appreciate the staff support as well. So, I just want to say thank you. Um, today's agenda, we're going to start by talking about council's overarching goals. Um, the budget development overview and the proposed additions which are selected by the city manager as recommended to be additions to next year's budget. Um, we'll move into capital improvements and then talk about maintenance and replacement programs and then the long-term liability funding fee schedule and then a fund summary. Those will I will present all of those and then we'll move into the street capital highlights. Um, Carrie Ksky will present those director of public works and then your director of utility services will present the sewer capital highlights to go through those projects in more detail. We did not do that with the first uh budget workshop. And so I'm trying to make sure we cover everything, but there's so much information that we kind of have to um decide which parts to go into deeper as we meet each time. So last time we kind of told you what the projects would be, but it'll be a deeper dive into those projects this time. So we start with council's priorities when we always start with the budget as before. Um the overarching goals of council determine the bud budget decisions and where the budget goes for each year and how we determine um what we can fund and what we should fund going forward. As such, fiscal sustainability is the biggest piece that I look at as far as bringing a balanced budget back to council. That's been council's priority to get to that balanced budget for a long time. Last year we did present a balanced budget and that was the first time since 2014 and prior to that it was many years prior to that. Um we are increasing general fund reserves in this budget uh that provides that sustainability and that ability to be flexible in case revenues don't come in where they we anticipate even though we're being conservative. So that's part of creating that sustainable budget for you as council. We're also decreasing unfunded liabilities like workers comp and post employee benefits uh such as retirey health. So we'll move into that when we get there. Budget development overview. We talked about this at our March meeting. Economic factors really are are about the same as what we anticipated when I was here in March. Um the state had their economic forum and they met this week. It was interesting to to see what they were saying there where their overall state economy they're saying is quite strong. They're seeing a lot of gaming revenue and such as far as the state their revenues are their revenue streams are very strong coming into the states. They're not thinking that it's going to be the economic downturn um for this state as far as the state's budget. Um, as far as municipalities like us and the county uh and the other cities, local agencies, we are seeing a little less robust information than what the state is seeing because our our revenue sources are a little different and they're provided to us in a little different way. So the biggest portion of that is sales tax and that distribution to us is affecting us more than it does the state. So although the state is predicting a little better outlook right now, we are still expecting a broad economic downturn with the city, um we think it's going to be modest, but we do think it's going to be broad. And so this budget has been built based on that to be conservative. As you can see from the information in the the news right now, the financial banking crisis kind of continues. that makes markets volatile and everything still remains fluid. So, we're still really at that point where we're waiting to see what happens. We're waiting to see how it affects the city, but um we're doing our best to be conservative and um map it out uh based on the information that we have. I want to do an overview of what we talked about in March. So when we met in March for the budget workshop, we I presented to you the baseline budget which included the current staffing levels, the service contracts, and the capital allocations that we're currently doing. So it was a baseline budget, did not have any additional ads in that budget. Um with that, we had consolidated tax was factored at 4.8% for the current year and 4% for next year. property tax was at 6.3 for the current year and 5.5 for next year. I mentioned previously during that meeting that the 5.5 for next year for property tax was a little conservative. I did expect it to come in higher and it has and we'll see that in the next couple slides. Um but that did give us a little room as far as being able to balance this budget and continue to keep it a balanced budget as we move forward. The budget also includes the prior year increases. Council approved 7% increase to service and supplies to um adjust for inflation and contractual increases. Um that was approved by council last year. And then it does include the annual maintenance funding of the $5 million that we talked about. And then collective bargaining agreements. those have clauses in there for colas and other special pays and such that was built in. And then we did have a very significant uh PERS increase which is the public employees retirement system. And that increase will go into effect July 1st. And so all of these items were included in that baseline budget as it was presented to you and it maintained a balanced budget. Today's topics are going to be more about what what we're seeing going forward and what we think we can add to the budget to help enhance services and to enhance um council's goals as far as your priorities. When the departments submitted their requests for additional funding this year, they were told to submit everything they needed to do their jobs to their fullest, to feel like they could do everything they needed to do to accomplish everything that they want to do service-wise for the city. And so in that, we had um approximately $50 million of request from the departments. Um it's a large number. Most of it was in the general fund. $41 million in the general fund of additional requests. Um, as you can see from this chart here, most of this was in positions um requesting for new positions within the departments. That's the little blue bar that you see here. The green bars are the service and supplies that requested by the departments. Most of those positions were requested within police and fire with 102 in in police requested and 36 in fire. As we move into this next um iteration of the the budget as you can say here we've updated revenue projections. Um, we do this following the March workshop because we have a couple of extra data points at that at point and each line item is gone through and trended as far as how we're seeing those revenues come in. Some went up a little bit, some went down a little bit, but for the most part overall they came in um pretty even. Some went up, some went down. The biggest portions that changed were the uh consolidated tax factors and the property tax factors. So for consolidated tax um we originally had it around 4%. We've revised those numbers and we have 2.7 for the current year and 2.1 for next year. Property tax we received the final numbers from the state which we did not have in March. And so we have 6.7% for the current year and 8.5% for next year. And so with those consolidated tax going down and property tax going up, we really ended up kind of in the same place and we don't have a lot of extra money in the general fund as far as to add anything to it um as anticipated because consolidated tax has continued to slide a little bit. One of the things um with consolidated tax is we see that in months where we have winters where it's really cold, it always goes down. The trend is we always have a decline in se tax in months where there's there are cold months. Um it's it's just people stay in. They don't go out and spend. Um, so one of the things is we think that February came in low and obviously I believe that March will come in low as well. We won't have that um until the end of the next month, but I believe that March will come in as low as well. April and May, I believe, will start to trend up a little bit. We will see a little bit of a rebound because as the weather gets better, people get out, they spend a little more, and we will see that. Um that's a typical trend not just for this particular year but for any year where we have a really cold winter. Um we're going to go into additional funding requests the propos what we proposed and then uh the capital project highlights. Um madame mayor be before we go into the detail could we just ask a question about this information? I just could would you mind? Is that okay? I just wanted to get a bottom line on all this that you've presented. So, what do you think the um the increase is like if you could summarize all of this as far as cax and property tax? Really, they've offset each other because we received more property tax than what we originally built into the budget and we've decreased the cax factors. So, it's this green circle kind of summarizes all of the preceding information. Thank you. Correct. ask a question to you. Okay, you guys, let's let her get through this and then we'll come back. She's got about a h half inch three, you know, third inch packet that I just got this morning, you know. So, if if we're going to be here for six hours and I get six minutes of questions, um it's going to be a problem for me because Yeah, I know. Don't worry about it. We'll get to your questions. Don't worry about it. I'm not given a chance to ask a question like Miss Der right now. Don't you only have four slides left before break? Um, we get to the general fund summary. Sure. Okay, we can get through the if we could get through the general fund that would be nice. Okay, let's do that and then you guys can ask ask questions, please. So, today today's t today's presentation is really kind of an addition to the presentation that we did in March. Um, council member Breas brought up a good point with the um presentation that was done in March. We provided a giant binder. That binder summarized every fund, everything we had. This presentation today is just an update on the tweaking that we've done with the revenues, the additional items that we're doing here, and just where everything lays out. Nothing else has really changed as far as your big binder um that was given to you in March. So, what we can do is just go through the items that have changed up to this point. It's a balanced budget. Um, we're increasing the general fund reserves. This is the same slide that you saw last time. Going up by 1% from 14% to 15%. We're decreasing the unfunded liabilities. Again, same information, the same $22 million that we're putting toward that from the general fund. And then part of the topic that we really brought out in the last meeting was facility maintenance program and what that would look like based on that facility index condition report that um your director of public works went over with you. That's really the next direction is starting to fund that deferred maintenance. And so we're going to talk a little bit about facility maintenance as well as just maintenance and reserves in general because that's the really big win in this budget. Although we may not have a lot of additional positions this year, we have a really big win in funding this defer funding deferred liabilities and really making the budget sustainable ongoing and resilient ongoing. So the proposed budget by fund type um shows the the different funds that are associated. This is the total city budget. It's 862 million. It does fluctuate up and down a little bit based on the number and and size of the capital projects. The general fund is the largest. It's $321 million. This includes the fund balance and it does exclude transfers. Um the sewer fund is the next largest and that's $227 million. These are the proposed additions by council priority. So these would be the additions that the new items from the last time. So when we met last time, we had a balance we had a balanced budget, but it was a baseline balanced budget. Nothing new added. These are the additions that are being proposed to be added and they're based on council's priorities. So infrastructure, climate change, and environmental sustainability, we have $2.8 million. includes nine new positions, um some training staff, some training increase budget, uh sewer capacity analysis, uh Tom Warf consultants, and an open space management contract. Um in economic and community development, this would be in your development services area. There are two positions being proposed in arts, parks, and cultural resources. We have some art repair and maintenance and an art master plan proposed. And then in public safety for fire, we have 400,000 proposed for a turnout replacement program. And again, advancing these replacement and maintenance programs is really important for the sustainability of the city. And so I really want to highlight this 400,000 for turnout replacement built in built-in ongoing. This would be a new program going ongoing similar to the fire apparatus program, similar to facilities program. It's a program so that we know we are funding the needs in the future. And then we also have on here the paramedic where three positions for paramedics. These are costneutral because they're funded through federal emergency management um funds that are reimbursed. So, it's 100% fully reimbursed. The additions for this current current budget are 14 um being proposed in public works, maintenance and operations, and utility services. That category has nine positions in there. There's three in public safety. Those are the three for the paramedics for fire. And then there's two in economic and community development. Again, those are in um development services. So, as you can see over the last five years, I wanted to show you this slide because we've added 211 positions over the last five years if you include next year as well with the 14 positions. Um that's 40% of those positions, 85 of them are 40% are public safety. Um so, I think that's a a really good thing to note. Also, it's an average of 42 pres positions every year over the last five years. Um, which is approximately a 15% increase in staffing. So, and I do want to note that fire staffing is at an all-time high right now. If we go into the general fund, we really are not proposing any additional funding in the general fund other than these this turnout replacement program. And again, like I said, this is a really important program because this is necessary equipment that is needed by fire personnel. This is their personal protective equipment um that is needed and we need a program in order to replace that. Um typically we've used one-time funding as needed to do this, but really this should be a replacement program just like fire and fire apparatus fleet anything else that we have. And this is another program that we are starting and it's it's part of that resilient budget so we don't have to look to other sources to try to fund things that are needed. Um and then the three paramedics on here again these are costneutral and fully reimbursed. When you look at the general fund, this is the general fund overview. Consolidated tax and property taxes are the two two big bars on the bottom. And obviously those are the largest bars. Um they are trending a little more flat this year. So you can see that we flattened that out. So mostly that's due to consolidated tax going from uh last year's actuals of 94 million to an estimate of 97 this year to a projected of 99 next year. So that's really slowed that progression as far as the growth there. When you look at CEX history, this one is interesting because in fiscal year 21, we were up 19%. Typically, you're around four to 5% growth in in consolidated tax. And since we're seeing that flattening and based on the data points that we have so far this year, we are anticipating that we'll be up to around 2.7% for the current year and 2% uh next year. So the interesting part about this is you'll see the adopted budget for the current year is $101.7 million and the projected for next year is 99.1. So we are dialing that back based on the signs that we are seeing in the economy. This is consolidated tax. This is the same slide that I showed you last time, but we do have the extra data point of February. Um this we don't receive this until two months behind. So February is the latest data point that we have and you can see that it's trending below last year and below budget um for the year. We are currently sitting at about 1% above last year's numbers. Um and as I said I do believe that as do other local agencies as soon as the weather warms up we will see that rebound a little bit. Obviously, we're not going to make our budget this year and that's why we have made our projections as such based on the current trend. Property tax history has been trending anywhere from 6 to 8%. We really saw a pretty big um leap this year. Year-over-year change is 8 and a half%. These numbers come to us from the state which they get those numbers uh projections from the assessor's office. We really saw a lot of new growth in this number. So we were at the 3% cap for residential and the 6% cap for commercial. And we even saw that uh I'm sorry 3% and 8% for commercial. And we see our growth is actually at 8.5% and that is because of the new growth that we're seeing in the area. We look at the expense overview. Uh salary and benefits are the largest portion of the general fund. Approximately 80% of the general fund is salary and benefits. That's mostly police and fire. they're about 60% of the total um personnel that we have and so 80% of our total budget is salary and benefits. Um that continues to grow as as you know with inflation with the collective bargaining agreements and then also with the PERS which is the retirement system new general fund revenue. This was a new slide that we showed last year and I liked it so much I thought I'd bring it back to you to to really show you where the new revenue comes in and then where it goes out. So this year you'll see fees, licenses and permits are up $9 million. That's franchise fees mostly. Um we've had increases in um electric rates and gas rates and we get a percentage of that as the city. And so when those go up, also when you have a really cold uh winter, we get more franchise fees as well because the usage goes up too. Um you'll see property tax there, 6 million up, that's that 8.5% increase in property tax. And those are the two big numbers that you'll see there. um charge for services is the 3% uh is the percent business license um for those fees and so those we are seeing those increase as well because it's based on gross revenue for the businesses and we are seeing an increase in those as well. Um intergovernmental revenues down almost 3 million that is uh the difference between the um consolidated tax. So, as I showed in that previous slide, consolidated tax, it we're actually projecting next year's budget is actually lower than the current year budget. So, overall, we're looking at a total change of $23 million in tech in new revenue in increase in the budget. And really, most of that is going to uh employee benefits and salary and wages. The biggest piece of that being employee benefits. you see that in the chart and that's due to that PERS or the um retirement system increase that goes into effect July 1st and then salary and wages that includes the uh collecting bar collective bargaining agreement uh implementation of any changes that go into effect as of July 1st as well. So those are the two main areas where most of the increase is taken up by that. So that for that reason we are not um recommending any other ads to the general fund other than the establishment of that turnout replacement program. We look at the general fund 10-year forecast. Um this was updated based on the new revenue uh calculations and and the new uh salary and wage calculations um if we had any adjustments there as well. And so what you see here is that the top line is the revenues. That's that gray line at the top, revenues. And then we have all of the expenditures kind of broken out. Salary and wages again are the biggest bar on there. So that's your green bar. And then um you can see that revenues exceed the expenditures. So that tells you that you have a balanced budget. In fiscal year 23 estimated, it shows the revenues kind of cutting into that little bar. And that's because we have carry forwards from the prior year that we're paying for. And so, um, this compares current year revenues to current year expenses. And in the estimated column, you do have carry forwards. This is another 10-year forecast to show the total fund balance to show that um we want to stay around 16%. Um council did adopt a resolution that says up to 25%. Um, legally in arrest we have to maintain a 4% fund balance and we want to really get to the point we with this current budget we would be adopting a 15% uh fund balance and we'd like to get to 16%. 16% is the approximate two months of operating expenses for the city and that's uh typical for a city to uh be around that 16% mark. It's a really good spot to be um as far as cash on hand and being able to fund your current liabilities. That's the end of the general fund. Did Okay. Want to take questions? Yeah, that sounds good. All right. Councilwoman Dur, do you have any more questions? No. Okay. Councilwoman Breakfus three minutes. So, um, in the past we've received at this hearing a memo of, you know, questions and information that council requested. Do you have in I didn't see that come through. Do you have other dist rather than the overview, do you have specific questions that you're answering for more information that the council asked for? I'm not sure what you're asking for here. Like the org chart. I think that was something that was asked for the information whether or not we were um how we were billing for the fire um you know uh movements. I know those were you know what do we transports? I know those were some questions I asked and us in the past we've received a summary of all the you know additional information. Do you do you have any of that? I the org charts are in the back. Okay. I just I did forget to mention that at the beginning. I just got this I even looked last night. It just came today, right? Yes, it did. Okay. And I I appreciate all the work that the team does. And I know because the council compressed the hearings were, you know, on the back of everyone's uh clever shirts there, you know, one day was omitted. So, we are not doing this as much as we have in the past. Um, but the org charts are in here. Okay. Yes, they are. And circled are the new positions that are being uh proposed. So, last time with your binder, you had the same exact org charts. the new additions for this time in the org chart. You will see circles around the 14 positions that are being proposed here. Okay. So, you'll see where they kind of flow within those. One thing I want to ask you about is when did you get the re most recent CAX reports and for what month was that? February is the last um one that we just received and we received it right at the end of April. So, we just got it. And how did you come? How'd that turn last week? How'd that trend to budget? It was under budget as I showed in this one slide here. Yeah, I can tell if that was aggregate or not. It's actually under budget. Um, currently for the current year year to date, it is 1% above last year is right where we're trending. But how much did that month miss budget? Um, I don't have that in front of me. I know it was 10% below last year. Okay. Okay. And I think you were projecting just a 4%. So 6% under sounds about right probably. Yeah. Um so you revised your C tax, correct? Which I think is wise. But what I'm seeing is you're augmenting that presumably to balance with new information that you think you're going to get a property tax increase. And I want to know what you're basing that information on because I thought and we had a meeting uh in between that property tax was set and there wasn't going to be any new information. You've already gotten your information from property tax. You know, you've already gotten your second installment. So, what new information did you get to jump up property tax more than it's ever jumped up before for next FY? Thank you for that question. That's a great question. um property tax, we don't actually get that um final number from the state until March 25th. So, when we had our last hearing, I did not have the final numbers from the state on that. They actually have um the county runs runs the bills and actually gives that number to the state and then they provide a number this for the new growth portion of it. So when I build the budget up to that point uh where we met in March, I can anticipate pretty much everything except the new growth. Um and so that's really where you're seeing that new number is in the new growth from the state on that. And what's Washer County and Sparks projecting property tax next FY? Have you checked with them? They're about the same as we are that on everything. Um it's it's interesting that we are all trending trending very similarly for both cax and property tax. All right, Councilwoman Taylor, go ahead. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you, Vicki. I have a question on the 14 proposed positions. Yes. Are the proposed positions in each category tied to a specific fund? So, I I have some concerns that we don't see anything in um for the police for RPD as far as new positions, but then we have nine in infrastructure, climate change, and environmental sustainability. Are those nine positions tied to like a BAC fund or how? Yes. Are they movable around or how does that work? Thank you for that question. Yes, they are tied to other funding sources, not the general fund. um because we do not have capacity right now based on our conservative projections for this year to add new positions to the general fund. We do have some capacity and other funds to add positions and so that's where the city manager did look to do that. So we couldn't take half of the nine in maintenance and give them to RPD. No, it's it's a different funding source. Okay. Thank you. Correct. Vice Mayor Reese. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I want to uh Miss Van Burren, first uh thank you for some of the uh change slides. Just each year, I think you have been able to refine the presentations in a way that takes into account the feedback that we've given in prior years. So, I think that's been very helpful. I want to start maybe first with this um full-time employee addition slide. It's it's a analysis of fiscal year 20 through 24. I think it's your slide number 12. Um, and maybe just a general comment and then it'll dubtail with one of the comments by um, council member Taylor. So this slide is instructive for me because it answers the question about um the council's priorities over a period of time and here the priority uh certainly is obviously public safety and I think that's been a consistent theme and I know that council member Taylor is and and we all are struggling for a way to figure out how do we uh add to our public safety resources even in a down economy. So, um I suppose um my question really is what what is the long-term way for us to build sustainability into those things because I don't know if your 85 persons is just really backfilling retirements. I I can't tell if it's like in addition to what we already have. I know you said that we have wisely gotten to a a higher number in the fire side of the equation, but I know that, you know, the mayor has uh for a long time championed uh at least adding another uh battalion company. I mean, I'm trying to figure that out. And on the police side, each year we've tried to add maybe a complement of eight or 16 uh officers. So, how do we how do we deal with that? Like what is the long-term fix there? Sure. Um well I mean outside of legislative action to change property tax or cax distribution we're really locked into those. Um we can obviously look for other sources of funding too like um fire has with their emergency med medical transport program. They're able to add bodies that are costneutral. Um I don't know that police has that opportunity but we certainly can look at grants. we can look at um other grant funding opportunities and maybe increasing some of some of the fees that we charge as far as that support the general fund as well through the fee schedule. Um those are some of the opportunities that we have but I think um we are going to be limited in what we can do because our our resources are very much lost. Well, and I appreciate you're being um realistic about it. I I think part of the thing is uh electeds oftent times overpromise and underdel, right? And so that's not the goal. The goal is to be honest and transparent with our thought process. Can you tell me are we pursuing any of the safer grants in in the fire side of the universe? Are are there other kinds of grants that we could be pursuing there? We are and we are pursuing some of the safer grants in the police as well. And so anytime we can get that grant funding, um it's a way to build it into the budget to the point where we can project and move that into the budget permanently. And so those are really good opportunities for us. Well, thank you again for slide number 12. I think it was particularly informative. Of course. And just to answer your question, um, Vice Mayor Ree, you had a question on the public safety that 85, those are new positions and so and that would be between police and fire and a number of those are police as well. Councilman Der. Yeah. Um, picking up on the same theme as my colleagues, I wanted to just turn to page 11 and uh and then back to page 12. So on page 11, I just want to make sure uh can we just go through each box? So in the upper left you have eight for traffic and sewer maintenance. So what is traffic is that that is for the street um traffic signals signals. So these are actually funded out of the street street uh fund and we will go into more detail um in these as we get to them. I just wanted to kind of highlight them here but I do have more detail. It's not positions it's traffic signals. No, these are positions. These are eight additional positions between traffic and then sewer maintenance. So, but is traffic police traffic is traffic improving roads among among clear traffic is the maintenance of the street lights. So, personnel to maintain those. Yes. Okay, I understand. And then this project coordinator, is that a position or a cont? It is a position and it would be for utility services. Okay, I'm just gonna go through these really quick. Okay. Public works training, sewer capacity. So, Tom Warf consultants, those are consultants, right? Correct. Open space management contract. That's a contract, not a position. Correct. Then over to the upper right, you have two positions you said, but I didn't see them written down here. Was unclear. There's the code compliance. It's under code compliance. You have the training and development manager and management assistant. Okay. And that's one. Okay. And then under arts, parks, historic, are there any positions? No positions. And then under public safety of the three. Yes. Okay. And then turning to the next page, um to to cue off my colleagues comments, I think it would be good and even if you're not making more presentations to us to come in with the chart like this, but to show the budget, you know, what fund they're being funded out of because that doesn't show up on the org chart, I don't think. Right. Yeah. It shows under which department, right? But not what fund. And as we go through, I have Right. But I'm just looking for one summary chart like this, but it would just have like the department, the position, and where it's funded from. And then we'd see these 14, right? Yes. So, I'm a little confused. You mentioned 85. And where where is that on public safety? If you look at the total AC all the way across, so over five years. Oh, over five years. Yes. Yes. We've added 85 positions. So, my um next question is about this. If you look at the bottom from 20 FY20 42 people then 8 then 75 714. So we're we're like this you know bigger years and smaller years and mostly that's due to the pandemic. Okay. But my question is this if if we have funds coming in it's equally for you and our manager. If we have funds coming in and you say oh we've recovered the we we now can add more positions. You know, last year we had 71, this year 14. So, I could see you adding some in between. I want to make sure that you bring those to us in the quarterly amendment, budget amendments, and that you identify them during that time so we know what we're adding. Absolutely. And what fund it's coming from. And council member D, you make a good point. um if things turn out better than what we think. If we're, you know, we don't slide into more of the flattening like we're predicting and things come out better, we do come back quarterly. So, you have that opportunity to add to the budget if at some point we can do that. Absolutely. Well, I just like to do it in the formal quarterly update versus sort of this month, the other month, another month. You know, it would be much helpful to me to have it presented quarterly and have us approve it, you know, because it's the one thing, the biggest thing in our budget is the people. All right. Thanks. Thank you. All right. Any other questions from council? I have. Go ahead, Councilwoman. Three minutes. Since I only get three minutes, I'm going to ask four very specific questions and hope that they all get answered, but I'm happy to repeat them. If we could bring up slide 18. seems that you've increased the amount of property tax that you're projecting to eight and a half percent. If you look back, that's a jump higher than we've ever had before. It um on the chart and it is also an increase from what you were projecting in March. You said you received new data points from the state. I'd really like to understand what those are. That's question number one because the data point for me is looking at the board of equalization agendas and I'm seeing a lot of land developers come in for rework on their assessments presumably because the markets turn and they're not bringing product to the market. That's something I learned a long time ago is a good indicator of local um property tax thoughts. Um Mr. Thornley sent the council copied the council on a memo that I think went out to staff. It was about the PERS split as related to when the colas go up and uh we all know how monumental that was. But he highlights that the city is evaluating whether the universal wage reduction should be ongoing practice for nonb compensible wages in the future for all overtime eligible employees. Presumably that would be the city taking more of the cut than our past practice of the employees doing that. I'd like to know who's thinking of that? Where are we thinking about it? and is it thought about in this budget? The third one is, do we have any openers in our current CBAs for downturn in economic conditions? In the past years, we have, but I don't know if we have any in these present ones, and I'd like to know what those are. And then I appreciate the the question about the safer and going forward. I think it was your last slide of the 10-year projection. Do we have any positions on safer grant that we're supposed to bring onto the general fund in in out years and what are those and how much are those? I'll just like to say also the question about coming back quarterly for augmentations. It seems to me the practice with Mr. Thornley has been we come back for quarterly augmentations to um augment the budget for positions he's already created. Sometimes they didn't even exist that weren't budgeted. So, it's really almost a rectifying of action he's taken in adding positions. I don't I think that gives up the council's budgetary authority. I think the council needs to if positions are added from what we close out. Those are done by the council. No one's hired. No one's advertised. A new position is not created. No one's up, you know, uh demoted or down. um those quarterly augmentations need to be an action of the council not an administrative um you know blessing of what's occurred that is giving away too much budgetary authority and I think it's it's very problematic so if you can answer those four questions I'd really appreciate it thank you absolutely thank you for the question um your first question was regarding property tax and again those property tax numbers come from the department of taxation we have to use their property tax numbers for our budget. Otherwise, we have to write a letter explaining why we think that their numbers are not correct. So, their numbers tied to our budget exactly. We get that number from the Department of Taxation. Are they disagregated down to our level or are they across the board? I'm not sure I understand your question. Is it eight and a half percent statewide or does it say eight and a half% with the city of Reno? No, it depends. It depends on your properties. depends on the um the amount of abatements. It depends on everything. They have a whole formal process that they So they say Reno's at 8 and a half, Sparks at 8.2 for example, whatever. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Correct. Now the memo about who is thinking. Um and then the PERS split memo um that's an ongoing conversation that HR and the city manager and something that's going on. Um nothing has been decided. It's just a conversation that's going on at this point. um nothing has been factored into this budget for that. Um as far as that conversation, it's a budgeting conversation that should occur here in my view. Okay. It's policy. It's it's um so you know, we always want to do by our employees, but I I don't like the idea that, you know, conversations are ongoing and the council hasn't been a part of those conversations in an open transparent view. Okay. About the CBA openers and the CBA openers, I do believe at least a few of them do have the opener in them for an economic downturn. I'm not sure if all of them do or not. That would be more of an HR question. Um, I'm gonna ask specifically to see those and understand where we're at. I think we need a pulse on that. Miss Centoya is is standing up behind you and you could answer maybe the safer one and and she and then uh the safer we do have a safer grant for uh that we're in the the it will be in the third year of it during the 24 cycle. And so that safer grant will expire in October of 24. And it's one of those ones where it comes on 100% 75 and it kind of decreases. As far as our projections, we've projected it forward that we're continuing to pay that full after that point and we still have a balanced budget going forward. So, we factor that in. Yes. Have you parked money for those? We have um we set aside money as far as uh I don't know if you remember council used to only approve $2 million for capital and we increased that up to $4 million. We have it $5 million this year. So we're using that extra money that we would have been paying for these positions and parking it to capital. But ongoing, I don't anticipate even taking away from that because that is part of the capital maintenance program that I'm putting forward and trying to um build that program. And so as far as factoring as far as the 10-year forecast, we have capacity to bring those on full-time. Okay. All right. Any other questions? Missy with the openers. I'm going to cut you off, council breakfast. Of course, Madame Mayor. Yes. Go ahead. I have just a couple questions. M Beern, are we looking at the legislature this session and following any of the changes that are being proposed there? Do we anticipate any changes say to property tax? I know there are a number of different bills that are working their way through the legislature, some of which have survived the first uh house passages and readings. So, I'm just wondering if any of those would positively affect us at the city of Reno. Um, if you know, I I know they look at property tax kind of every year. I don't think that this is going to be a year where we see any of those changes that are going to have a positive impact. But obviously, I do know that it is a topic that comes up every year at the legislature. Well, and of course, as to the labor agreements, the law already provides for reopeners that are triggered by a certain set of economic conditions, even though those might not be included in a contract. Some of the contracts try to spell out or more positively define it or define it differently than state law does, but we already have openers, reopeners for economic related conditions as a function of Nevada state law. So, I'm not worried about any of those. What are our colleagues in other cities doing or counties I suppose either one with the PERS increase? Like, is it all over the map? Some are pushing it on to the employees, others are taking it on their own. I What are you seeing across the board? I think that's probably a better question for um our HR director here because she's been working on this with um other agencies. So, I'm gonna let her handle that. I appreciate that and thank you for bringing to the floor. Appreciate that. No worries. Good morning, Norma Santoo, HR director. I'd be happy to answer that. We have been uh working closely just to stay connected with other HR directors in the in the state of Nevada. most of them are applying um the split as directed by NRS 286 which allow which which says that the split is born 50% by the employee and 50% by um by the employer. We have received indication from city of Henderson um that the employer there will be picking up the employee cost but generally that's the only one we've heard from that is picking up the employee cost. And has your office had any communications with the PERS um folks just about like it seems very odd that it came out of the blue like PERS made this big decision and and we're all reaping the consequences of it because I don't think it was anticipated. So what does PERS care? Do they are they just our way or the highway kind of approach? How does it happen? Sure. So the PERS is govern governed strictly by uh Nevada statute uh 286. Um they also have very strict guidelines on actuarial reviews on the performance of our pension plan. Um per NRS they have to conduct an actual actuarial review excuse the language there on a uh even number year that dictates what the rate setting will be on an odd number year and that's spelled out in statute. Okay. Uh so it has gone through the law legally required process and then the board at Nevada Public Employees Board makes that determination typically in November of the odd an even number year November or December for rates set for the upcoming fiscal year. Okay. Thank you so much, Madame Mayor. While she's up, could she answer the question about the CBA openers for downturns? Are there any other questions? Go ahead, Councilwoman Eert. and then we'll get back to Councilwoman Brea since you're over. I have a question on slide two or sorry 12. So on these new positions, are any of these for code enforcement? Yes, two of them are. Okay. And what category do those fall under? I'm sorry. Those fall under the economic and community development. It's on the previous page, I think. Okay. All right. Thank you. It's uh column 20. It says fiscal year 24. That first two. Okay. Those are your code. All right. Thank you. All right. Council Brea. Yeah. Mentoya. What are the openers for economic downturn in which agreements are those right now? Uh yes. So I can't speak Norma San Antonio HR director. Again, I don't recall specific language because we do have 10 labor agreements. Uh however there is NRS 288 specifically allow uh provides some guard rails uh when an agency is experiencing economic downturn. So there are already uh reopeners at the uh at the Nevada law level. So having been on this council for a lot of years now I know that and I know how those write out. But I also know that we've dropped specific reopeners in our contracts. And for example, one may be and I think they were in may one of the public safety ones at one time. If you see two or three turns uh downturns, quarters of GDP maybe it was or it might even be more nuanced and specific to our um revenues like sea tax which we've now seen three months of sea tax go down. You know, two projections. So rather than scare everyone and um you know think about we don't know um I'm going to ask specifically for that to come in a memo to council. I recently found that all the memos to council are are being shown up on some on the website which is good because I think a lot has not been going up there. So, I'm going to ask for a memo before adoption to understand if we have any openers outside of this broad statute language currently in those to understand where we're at because I think a time when you haven't been making cax to budget, you're downturning, you're projecting just a 1% growth in sea tax for next year. It is a time to have that on a horizon and I I I hope we're not going there, but we've been there before in my memory. So, um, do you think you can get I'm happy, uh, this week to send to the council a memo outlining language in HCBA as well as the NRS28 from those. Thank you. All right, move on. Unless there are any other questions, we're going to move on. Go ahead. Thank you, Madame Mayor. We're going to move on to the street fund. In the street fund, we have uh five full-time positions being proposed here for council's consideration. Um the traffic signal mechanic, a traffic signal technician, and a tra traffic signal maintenance supervisor. We currently have five and a half employees to maintain the traffic signals in the city. And the city of Reno currently maintains 320 signaled um intersections for the city. And some of those we may own, some of them that we may have interlocals with um Nevada Department of Transportation or Washer County to do those. But when you think about we have 320 signaled intersections and we have approximately five employees currently to do that. This would be um to expand this program and to actually start what's considered a maintenance program for them. So, we wouldn't be just going out just when something breaks. We would actually be maintaining and continuing to keep them from breaking in the future. Um we have a maintenance worker three on here. This is a street sweeper operator and um this is to increase service. Currently, we sweep uh the city streets, all city streets once a month. And this would add uh centerline sweeping and the medians sweeping as well. So, it would increase service by adding this one. We're increasing the training budget. They had a need for additional training for staff. Um I believe it's only around $15,000. It's not a large dollar amount, but it's large dollars as far as training and um bringing that increased knowledge to the staff. Um, we also have on here an open space management contract and this would be a contract uh for the management of the open space along the southeast connector and that's approximately 150 acres and that includes the the horse fencing and the vegetation and the waterways of that area to do that open space management. You will see this again on the sewer slide as well because that cost for that particular contract is split 50/50 between streets and sewer. And in total, I just want to in total for all of these items about a million dollars. When you look at the street fund fund balance, I wanted council to see how these how these additions will add or um how they're going to project out into the future. So for fiscal year 23, you can see that we have a cash ending fund balance that's pretty high. It's based on the projects that are out there. So, as we've talked about many times before, capital projects that are really large in streets and sewer, they go, they don't necessarily start in one year and end in one year. So, that's going to smooth out that fund balance over the years. But for this particular purpose, we budget it based on total projects starting in one year and anticipating they end in one year, although we know that doesn't really occur that way. Um, but we want to show you that we can still meet the minimum fund balance requirements and that that would be smoothed out over the years. Um, and these projections going forward have a really hefty um, capital investment into your neighborhood streets in here as well. When we move on to the building fund, there are two positions that are proposed here and they're both in code compliance and this would be a team for code compliance for the commercial buildings to ensure that developments are staying up to code after they've been built. So, this would be a new program to ensure that um they don't just get inspected once they're built. They continue to have inspections and make sure that they're up to code going in the future. And that's approximately $342,000. And this would be out of the building fund. When you look at the building fund cash again, um looking at in the past and in the future here, we have a little bit of a dip in the ending cash. You can see that starting in fiscal year 23. That's an anticipated potential um remodel of the second floor. That has not come to council or been approved yet. It's just something that's kind of in the works. We go ahead and put that in as far as an estimate just to make sure that um if that's something council wanted to do in the future, we can see where the cash would land. We're starting to get back to that 50% um of the prior year expenses line, which is that's the line that tells us when we can raise those rates for the fees that we're charging for services. And so we've had an excess of cash in this building fund for some time. So we've only been able to increase a lot of those fees by CPI because it's based on how much cash we have available in the fund. We look at the sewer fund. We have four positions that are being recommended in here. We have a lift station technician, a lift station crew helper, and a maintenance worker three. Um these are additional uh lift station uh personnel for maintenance because the city's sewer capacity has grown and the need has grown to monitor that system as the city grows. uh we have a project coordinator and this is to support the sewer planning team on uh the capacity analysis and such as the city grows as well. Um the training increase here again this was a split between streets and sewer um just a small amount but a small amount in training really is a big amount in investment in the employees. The sewer capacity analysis is to expedite the sewer capacity um response to look at the capacity and the growth um since we've had such a growth in infill development. This is a need that is out there right now is to analyze that sewer capacity. We also have Tum Warf, which is Truckucky Meadow Water Reclamation Facility Consultants on here. And this is to look at the discharge permits because we anticipate there may be a change in the water quality um permit as far as um what the regulations and the rules are on that. So, in anticipation of that, this would bring on a consultant to figure out what those new requirements would be and um how we would meet those. And then we have again that open space management contract which is split between streets and sewer and that's for the southeast uh connector. And in the sewer fund, that would be uh a total cost of $1.8 million. You look at sewer cash balance. This uh cash balance fluctuates based on the projects in there. Obviously, it's more of a an evened out flattened line versus the sharp steep curves that you see in here a lot of times. But it is project dependent uh depending on the projects as they come online. Large projects we spend down the cash, save up cash, new projects come on. And so you can see it kind of fluctuate based on the uh capital within the sewer fund. And this is projected out until fiscal year 32. And again shows that we're above uh quite a bit above most of the time the required reserves uh depending on the year that we're doing the projects. Madame Mayor, and ask questions. Um Just a few more. Okay, let's get through those and then we'll come back for questions. If we go into room tax, there's just a couple things proposed in here in room tax. The annual public art repair and maintenance. This is a maintenance plan. Again, this is really the the focus of this budget is the maintenance and uh replacement of the things that the city already has. can't add a lot of positions and we really can't add anything in the general fund, but we can build up some of these programs and make sure that we're maintaining that what we have. And so this plan is an immediate need to repair and replace some of the murals and the artwork um that needs uh maintenance. Um some of the examples in this area are uh the Evelyn Mount. There's a mural on that wall at the Evelyn Mount Community Center that's been there for 23 years that needs to be maintained and redone. Um, also they're looking at potentially putting up some type of barriers at the Wells Avenue at that circle where they have the art in that area next to the road there. That's been hit a couple times is my understanding. So, they're trying to maintain that area and and make sure that um the art is protected and this these funds would help that. Um also in here is a public art master plan title 22 update. Uh the last plan was done in 2002. And so, uh that would include public meetings, hiring a consultant, um input sessions, uh meetings with stakeholders and such. And then eventually the Reno Municipal Code Chapter 22 would come back to council to be updated based on that information. And in total for these two items, there's 265,000 that's uh put forward for that room tax. We've talked about this too in the pandemic, that dip you see there, room tax went down because businesses were closed, casinos were closed, uh hotels were closed. Um but typically it runs around $3 million in room tax. um in any year and that's been consistent for the last about five years. So room tax is a special revenue fund. It means the use of those funds is restrict restricted to a specific purpose. In this case, uh council has discretion on 50% and that's for tourism and then 50% goes to parks and recreation for park maintenance. Um the items that were previously presented to council were items that council has approved in the past such as um keep Trekky Meadows Beautiful, um Leer Theater, uh that would be the debt payment on the Lear Theater, the arts commission, um and then council recently approved the activation coordinator position from the room tax. And so you'll see that included. The additional items are in the bottom right hand corner. That's the public art repair and maintenance 200,000 and then the master plan update at 65,000. I have some summaries of just all of the capital uh that's included within the budget. uh sewer fund 113 million, street fund 24 million, and as I said, um your director of public works and your director of utility services are going to come up following me to go through all those projects in a lot more detail so you'll know what's going on with those. We have general maintenance, facility maintenance, $5 million. This is that new program that we're starting toward supporting the facilities that we have, maintaining those facilities, and starting a replacement plan. This is the start of that plan. And this is based on that new book that you received last time that shows the condition index of each facility. It shows the usage of the facilities. So, we're ranking each facility and we're tracking the needs of the facilities based on that. the fire apparatus program. We have $3.3 million in funding going to that. Um $2 sir charge. There's three $3 million in that. That's for your event center in your downtown um bowling stadium. We have the special aorum capital tax at 1.8 million. Um those funds are dedicated to uh public safety type items and equipment um remodels. Um for the most part we've used those funds for radio replacement for public safety and then for also for uh forens um evidence storage as well buying evidence storage equipment for PD. We have that retract capital fund. I was recently at council with an item with the augmentation to close out the debt fund that was paid off and now these funds will go forward as a capital replacement maintenance fund for the retract area that needs a lot of work in those trenches. There's 1.7 million there. We have police facility impact fees of a million dollars. Those are to be used for the new uh public safety center. And then park districts 220,000 event center uh 100,000 that is the ballroom that we have and then SCBAs these are for the fire department. And again this is another program similar to the fire apparatus replacement program but it's for the self-contained breathing apparatus. That's breathing units that fire uses. And so instead of trying to find one-time money to fund this all the time, this should be a program as well. And so this this would is built-in funding that we actually started last year that will continue this year. So again, another program that ensures the sustainability of the budget moving forward. When you look at that general facility maintenance, I really wanted to focus on this because this was the really new area that went with that facility index report and that new look at the capital in the book that council received in the May workshops. We have $3.7 million put toward buildings and facilities for those maintenance and repairs. There we have parks 700,000 parking lots which are tracked separately in that book as well 400,000 and fire stations 200,000. But you said you were going to stop here. Uh I just have a couple more. Oh, you keep saying just a couple. This is it. I promise. Well, actually I do have a thought I did have I've got a few more. Well, but we can stop here if you would like. Um, ongoing capital projects. I just really want to highlight a lot of the really big things we have going on. We may have a flat budget and we may have, you know, have to dial things back a little bit as we wait to see what the economy is going to do, but I really want to highlight the maintenance plans that we're getting in place that we're continuing to fund. And I want to highlight the ongoing big projects that we have going on. We have this public safety center for police. This is a project that's a huge project. It's approximately $75 million project and it's going to be um up and running next year. So, wanted to highlight that council has really put the priorities out there so that we're able to fund these, figure out ways to um address these needs of the community and make this happen. So, it's just a great thing to highlight, I think, with the budget process. Another project, the Moana Springs Community Aquatics and Fitness Facility, again, will be online at the end of next year. Just something super proud to be a part of that and proud for council to give us the direction to move forward on these things. Um, the National Bowling Stadium, the mural that's going in there. Um, another project that's ongoing and will continue into next year. We also have the fire department central station design that's ongoing and we're considering um uh figuring out the funding sources for that as we move forward with the budget. We'll figure out um how we're going to move forward and and what that looks like to bring that back to council as well. Um city hall the seismic retrofit ongoing scheduled to be done later this fall. um making facilities safer for employees, making this building safer and bringing it up to standards. So um another huge project um another project, Paradise Park, big project that's going on. So all of these things are projects that aren't necessarily included in this budget, but they're ongoing, continuing from the prior items that council has approved previously. So just a lot of great things going on. And then ARPA funding, the Reno Tennis Center, we have a lot of ARPA funding that's out there, too. And those projects are going to go on for the next couple of years. And so, we're going to see a lot of benefit to the community from all of these projects that council has put forward. Um, the next thing I wanted to talk about was kind of was uh maintenance and replacement programs that we have. Facility maintenance um is the thing I was talking about. That's the area we want to start focusing on going forward because we have fleet. You can see that fleet's the green area and we've really started to fund that over time. We have a program in place. Um fire apparatus, we have a program in place. It started very small but in 2020 it really came on and you can see that big pink piece getting larger there. Um we have parks maintenance again not really funded and increased over the years and so that area and the facility maintenance are the areas that we would really focus to improve and grow those on the end. Want to give you an idea of where all these this money goes and what's what it's actually doing and why this is so important for the city. So fire maintains its own fleet. They have their own fleet shop and they have a total apparatus of 53 and it's split between engines and brush trucks um and other vehicles. That's where the fleet uh apparatus program is going to fund these. The average age of the apparatus is shown here. So we were up over 16 years in fiscal year 20. Um it's not quick to come online to decrease even though we started the program I believe a little bit. I think we believe we started it in 2019 because these apparatus take so long once you order them take a couple years to even get them online. So we're only starting to see now the effects of getting that program in place. So you see the average age now is down to about 12 years and um the industry standard is about 10. So really this having this program place this is what those dollars are doing and this is what council has enabled us to do um to bring that in line with the industry standard the replacement program. This is showing the annual funding in 2017 we hardly had any money going to this program. um it increased and now going forward since we have it built in, we have plans in our 10-year projections to continue to fund this going forward. This shows you the average age of the apparatus as we continue to uh fund this program based on the replacement schedule that fire has come up with as far as the age and the timing of replacing those. And so you can see by the time we get to fiscal year 30, we are trending right at the 10-year mark for the um average age of the um equipment. When you look at citywide fleet, fleet is everything other than fire. So fire maintains their stuff. Fleet is everything else. uh departments contribute to the fleet fund and they're charged to charged based on the type um of vehicle that they have and the maintenance that's required for that vehicle and the replacement value. Most of it 63% going into that fleet fund comes from the general fund because it's for the police vehicles. Uh 23% comes from the street fund. When you look at the city fleet, we have 722 vehicles in city fleet. Most of those are police at 44% and then maintenance and operations at 31%. Um, your fleet staff did a a a comparison that I liked and so we put it on here as far as commercial shop rates. So, you can see the shop rates for city of Reno or less as compared to other um agencies or other uh businesses across the area. So, what this tells you is we're getting the best bang for a dollar. So the shop rate to do it inhouse is much cheaper compared toly if we were to outsource it to these other shops. So we're really able to maximize the value that we're getting out of the repairs. When you look at the annual funding starting in 2016, we were only not even quite at 6 million. Um, and then as we go out going to the future, we're looking at uh fiscal year 24, we're around $10 million. This does include personnel and replacement and maintenance for the vehicles. And then the average age of the fleet, you can see, is uh up around 10 years uh in the early fiscal year 2016. And as we move out, we're getting more around the 8-year range. And as you know from even personal vehicles, they require a lot more repair and maintenance the older they get. So we're putting a lot more money and effort into them. Also, the older they get, it's harder to find replacement parts. It's harder to actually repair them as they get older. So you don't want to have a fleet that is uh aging. And so during the last recession, this was an area that was cut. So the age of the vehicles really went up. And what that equates to is we did a lot more maintenance and repair during this time frame. As we can replace those vehicles, put more money into replacing them and getting new vehicles online, it actually uh cuts down on the maintenance needs of those citywide for fleet. I wanted to show you the uh ending cash balance. So salarying benefits and service and supplies are salarying benefits are the green part. So the biggest part in fleet is service and supplies and then the capital outlay the purchasing of the new vehicles and so to replace the older vehicles ending cash. Uh at one point um back in the prior to the previous recession there was really no money in this fund. It was um kind of paycheck to paycheck as you say. It's and um now we have a fund balance in there that maintains around $4 million. Wait, I I don't think I can comprehend anymore. We're at 30. It's a lot of information. We're at 30 slides. Let's pause here, please. Mayor, how many more? A few. Quite a few. Quite a few. It's a lot of information. Yeah, that's not a lot. And I I don't know. I mean, I'm here. My calendar has us here till four o'clock today. So, I hope we get I'll get a chance. Okay. Great. Great. Great. So, I'll start with slide 24 and that's the street funding additions. And I generally, you know, I know the needs are so great. So, I don't like to question, you know, we're bringing on operation, but when I see traffic signal mechanics, um, add-ons and that, you know, I I wonder if something like that or the technicians if we're missing the mark on addressing what I hear from where I sit is a big need, which is addressing uh, neighborhood traffic conflict issues, a walkability coordinator, a traffic calming coordinator. Um, that's what I'm looking for and would like to see the ad and like to hear from the department why we're not getting there. And I've I've and and it's it's frustrating to me and I think we need to go there. I mean, I have a lot of issues with RTC and where what they should be doing, but you know, as it is, they're not doing local roads and I'm hearing too many local roads and now I'm seeing more traffic mechanics. And this is why I voted against an agreement to go up, send people up to incline to do their traffic signals because I don't want us to do contract for services in incline. I want us at the corner of Sharon and Marsh where I get constituents all my time all the time asking me why we don't have sidewalks there and why we have a grade there and why we have deteriorating pavement and all over all over town. So that is a problem for me with that budget and I think this is the time to make a different decision. So, um, if staff wants to say, why are we bringing more mechanics for signals and why aren't we doing someone who's focused on the pedestrian environment, the pedestrian experience? Because from where I sit, that's not getting addressed. Oh, did you want to take that? Sure. For the record, uh, Travis Tel, director of maintenance and operations. um these the mechanic and technician positions that you see here along with the supervisor, this is strictly to take care of our existing infrastructure we have right now. Um the work that the guys are doing, just to kind of rattle off some information for you, we have the city has 2600 decorative street lights they maintain. They have um 320 signalized intersections throughout the city um and again up in um Tahoe as well and other areas. um 206 rectangular uh rapid flashing beacons. These are the the RFB flashing beacons we put up uh around the school zones, other high pedestrian use areas. Um 1,200 signalized or uh street lights that are also in these signalized intersections. The the staff that are currently assigned to this division cannot provide any kind of preventive maintenance. They are way behind on work. they absolutely do not have the bandwidth to take on anything else. And as you guys are aware, we keep bringing in more uh subdivisions. We keep bringing in or areas that have infrastructure essentially with them. Um the what we're trying to do is transition to a point for really a public safety perspective that we are able to start providing the preventive maintenance that's necessary. Um again, we are not able at this point to do anything other than just reactive maintenance. when a street light gets called out gets called into us that it's the bulbs are not functioning that's reactive. We we don't have the bandwidth to be able to go and do street light assessments like we used to in the in the past. Um so this this staff here that we're requesting is literally to get us to a point that we can provide preventive maintenance on this public safety infrastructure. Yeah. I can wait. Can we just Okay. because I think you make a val a valid point, but I also think one doesn't predicate on on the other and this is why we're talking about this in budget and figure out what does that look like where you want it to be. I don't think that this is exactly saying one doesn't get the other. I think you're just saying there's a need for it. Correct. That that's exactly what I'm saying. this this from a maintenance and operations perspective is what's needed to get us to a level that we're not just providing the the uh reactive maintenance that we see currently um for what you're you're requesting for the other positions um the coordinators and so on that's a that's a different that's completely different bucket than what we're talking about here this is just to maintain what we have I think the street fund had had a traffic coordinator many years ago a walkable you traffic calming coordinator in that budget. It got rifted. This is the time to think priorities. I'm in no way advocating for another position in because I think frankly we go deep into this, you know, more bank failures or whatever the economy slows. I think I think we're going to go into, you know, um attrition. Maybe not next FY, but maybe then the one after. So, I'm not advocating for that. I just want to call attention to my priority. I know these guys are working hard. I said don't send them up to incline. Sorry, Washo County, you're on your own. Okay, because I didn't think that was prudent. So I that's what I wanted. So where So let's let's address that question. So I would ask the city manager where would something that like that fall in line because I think the council would like to see that as a priority. And then also we're doing some work over at RTC where we do believe there should be set aides for street maintenance on some of these traffic signals. Um you know just some of the things that I think have probably gone on way too long and there's always been this sort of fight where where does this go? But and I don't know if maybe I would imagine that that would fall under us here when it comes to a traffic safety coordinator, but I again I want to just reiterate I don't think one predicates on the other. This is a totally different ask and need. Correct. That is correct. And yes, you're right. There's there's discussions being had right now to um create more of a regional program where it's fully expected they would have those kind of positions within that that uh body at that time. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Madam City Manager, Madame Mayor, you're of course correct that these are not mutually exclusive conversations. This reflects uh an existing need with regard to maintenance of the facilities that are already in place. Um I think pedestrian safety is a priority both of the public works crew and the streets crew uh and everyone who touches that issue. Um my initial reaction to the ask is that yes I think we would turn to this particular fund with respect to looking at that position. I can imagine some other scenarios where other funds contributed to that work. Um, you know, that said, it really just highlights the natural tension in the streets fund of how much maintenance do we pay for versus how much capital do we put into, you know, neighborhood streets. Um, those are choices that we can make and of course, you know, the the team that's sitting here now with the help from from finance uh can build one of these handy charts that says if we, you know, do all of these things and add those positions, here's what the runout looks like and here's how sustainable those decisions are. of course gets less than the other when we start to move those around. That's it, right? It's it's really just a matter of prioritizing. Do we want to take a run at this at the expense of putting more capital into paving streets and repairing streets in any given year. And that that again is where I think over at RTC there should be a set aside probably for all three when it comes to paving, traffic lights, those kinds of things. I think that that's gone on probably way too long and that some of that funding needs to be over here. So, I would just ask my colleague who sits on the RTC with me, um I'm sure you would be supportive to make sure that we can get some of that funding over here. Okay. Madame Mayor, yes. Go ahead. I mean, the other day in my office move, my temporary office move, I came across a letter I wrote to the RTC in 2015 calling for a set aside program, okay, for maintenance. So, it's a concept that's been out there, but uh we need to, you know, make decisions here. And I I would say, you know, to put more pressure on RTC doing maintenance, let's take one of these maintenance positions and turn it into a traffic neighborhood traffic coordinator and tell RTC, we need that set aside this FY. they need to move quickly on it because I tell you I think and and you know the Reno Direct reports show it is the neighborhood traffic calming issues are not getting addressed. They're not getting inventoried. They're not getting uh programmed. They usually fall up to a supervisor or a save officer to do a study. And I think our pedestrian um uh safety outcomes which are major crashes and um uh ped fatalities obviously are reflecting that and and we've got to get somewhere on this important public safety issue. So that's what I that's what I say for this budget. Okay. Madam Mayor, if I might go ahead. I think it would be um it would be my preference that we take these comments under advisement and we examine what the productivity cost of making that change would look like because I can't tell you today and I don't know that Mr. Truhill could tell you today what the impact of saying we're going to hire one mechanic instead of two or we're not going to hire the tech. I don't know that we can tell you as we sit here today what the actual annualized impact of that decision is. Um, and I think it would be better for us to come back to you, whether in a memo or in a a final proposal to say, "Yeah, these are the choices you're making. This is what the impact of the fund looks like. Here's how we could go about accomplishing these goals and prioritizing uh the wishes of the council." Yeah. And I think that would be welcomed because I I would just say coming back to the council, not in a memo, because I do think this is a priority for the council, but what exactly does that look like? How how do we accomplish that? And that's why we have these bud budget discussions. All right. Okay. Madam Mayor, moving on to Councilwoman Der. Yeah. Thank you. Um, just following up on this conversation. So, the point I made before about when you come back with ads, what what I'm asking the manager to do is hear this request. And when you do come, if you do have more money, okay, cons prioritize the council asks equal to what the staff think their asks are. Maybe the staff would think, well, we need a third traffic signal technician. I'm just making this up, but I'm saying that you need to to hear us and from our perspective where we see some needs. So, um I'm not sure you heard me there, but yeah. Okay. So on this same topic um I just want to be aware if if we were to include a person like this where I have seen a lot of problems over the last nine years is that when we add new developments we say okay you have a street but what we don't understand is how that street interacts with the other streets the cumulative impact on traffic uh the the steepness of the streets and what that does is when we just say that's just fine to put in a very steep street it has ancillary ben I mean um um subsequent impacts on our staff. So we have to plow that very steep street. We have to maintain it. We have to clear rocks from it. Uh we have traffic safety from our police. So all of us get a lot of requests through Reno Direct to respond to the ste street, excuse me, steep street uh developments. And so I don't think that goes I don't think that happens in planning. I don't think when when those are being approved, anybody looks at what is the impact of this street on our whole organization, including council members, because we're the ones fielding all these calls and I I've talked before about some streets in my ward that and I mean, you could just pick Zolesi outside the county, so it doesn't it's not in anybody's ward. It's a very steep street, but we have streets like Zolesi, very steep, and the speed on there, we have constant complaints. They're worried about dogs being hit, pedestrians being hit, and so on. So, I I really think somehow we have to do that analysis and advise developers. You can't have a street like this. We're not going to maintain that street. We're not going to do that one. So, moving on. Um, uh, I had a question back and and I guess this fits right in with this on page I think it is right here. It's basically about the enterprise fund. So, let me find that page. I think it is page and maybe you know where that page is. You It was called the building fund on this document. Here it is. Um it's page 28. Okay. So on this page I want to make sure are we talking about the enterprise fund here? Yes that's okay. So I want to build on something that my colleague miss has mentioned many times which is do we need to maintain this as a separate fund and the reason I asked the question is we have a current balance in there of about $10 million. Um we are restricted in how we can use it. Uh do we this is like a self-imposed restriction. I don't think it's required by the state or anyone else. So the question is, can we blend this fund so that these funds could potentially be used for police for some of the unmet needs? Is this something that we could look at in this coming year uh to free up these funds so that we could have some more flexibility in the budget? Council member Der, it's certainly um one lawful book end of the conversation. Um I'm not certain from a policy perspective the manner in which it's being managed right now. Um we would want to step away from that but we can have the conversation. It's certainly um probably legal I would say. Um but there are there is um a tremendous amount of rationale that goes into maintaining it as a separate fund. Okay. I think we can talk offline about some of the reasons that we got into a a place where we were unhappy with how it was being managed. Okay. Um, but I believe we've repaired most of those males. It got up to $25 million almost in 2022. Uh, if I'm reading this right, ending cash was about 25 million. Yes. And and so what I want to do is I would just like to have the conversation and put it to bed at least for a period of time. Like we either are going to be interested in doing it or not doing it. Here's some great reasons to keep it whole. I'm I'm totally fine with that. I just want to make sure that we don't have sort of a continuing underlying theme about it and never get it resolved. Do you see what I mean? Yes, we can build that conversation into and then if we decide that the benefits outweigh the costs, you know that there's reason it might free up some cash or we may say it is perfectly appropriate to keep it as intact fund and we know where it is and to fund things. I know that you have looked at expanding making sure that we stay within our self-imposed laws that we have added staff that are reflective of those appropriate expenditures and I appreciate what you've done there. I mean that is very good. You you we have moved forward to add several staff that specifically relate to this increase in development. I think that was a good move. Next question is do we need to do it this way? Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you for that. I did want to have one little comment on that one. Um, we have looked at that in the past. Um, as far as uh combining this, there are some challenges to that and we have talked to the city attorney's office, Mr. Shipman, about it and and it does affect some of the fees that you charge. So, you're going to be limited more on some of that. So, there are some challenges to it. Um it's not um a simple thing that it that we would get the same amount of revenues because it would not be the same um same way it's done currently. So there are some challenges. One point of thought on this, you could leave this intact, not affect this, leave this as its separate fund, but going forward change your process so that we're not taking away from what's already been done. Just another kind of concept here. Okay. Okay. All right, Councilwoman Taylor. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Vicki, I have two questions. Um, the first one is on slide 30. What is the open space management contract? That is to mitigate uh the area around the uh southeast connector. And so there's um I think Travis could probably do you want to come up and talk about what that contract would entail? Travis Trule, director of maintenance and operations. Um, when the city of Reno uh took over the Southeast Connector Veterans Parkway, the land that's adjacent to that parkway from roughly Steamboat Parkway to um Pemroke, it is also now a city and there's wetlands in there. There's streams. There's it's very vast open area that also is then bordered by horse fencing. Um, it's it's an area that's just too large for our internal staff to be able to handle. As as I was mentioning in the the the previous uh discussion, we don't have the staff to do anything more than really what we're doing currently. And to take over the responsibility of needing to um deal with the the weeds that are in the area um and just maintain everything from garbage pickup out there uh to the fencing is just not in our bandwidth. So, this is a contract to hire a contractor to go out there and and deal with the very specialized um handling of the the the weed system that's out there. There's certain we we can't uh go out there and just mechanically wipe out all the weeds like we normally would in in areas. Um this has to be very specialized to the point that um only appropriate herbicides are used when they can be used. Um we're even talking down to a level of handpicking weeds. So, I guess my um another bigger question for this Travis is of all the things that you needed when we saw your laundry list, the things that are listed here are your top priorities. These are the things that you want us to fund. That is correct. I mean, we as as the manager's office directed just about every department in the city, we did start early in the process of identifying all the needs that these are your greatest needs. These are our greatest needs. Exactly. Right. Now, I have one last question. Thank you very much. I just want I don't want to go over my three minutes. The park's master plan. Um I'm not necessarily against a master plan update. My concern is if we have a plan and then it sits there for four years, is there a nexus between the plan and the $238,000 that we might get for those implementations? So, what I'm saying is I don't necessarily want to invest in a plan that we're not going to be able to do any implementation with, which was so exciting about the placemaking because we had a plan and now we can do some of the implementation. Um, thank you for the question, Council Member Taylor. I Are you referring to the arts master plan in here or the parks master plan? I'm sorry. The arts master plan. Sorry about that. Well, I mean, in this case, I really feel like it, as staff brought forward, it really needs it's something that needs to be done because it hasn't been done since 2002. That was the last time we really looked at all the art and think about give us recommendations that we're not going to be able to do anything with. Well, we do have um or do we have the 238,000 from the room tax that we have room tax in that maintenance fund that we could use to move forward and then obviously we would have um recommendations from that program so we could figure out how to move that forward. Um arts commission has funding in there. We have uh different sources for art. Um we also have that 2% that we're required to put toward um by council resolution to put toward art. Okay. So, I think it's a really important project um to move forward and I know it's not super significant as far as cost is. So, thank you very much, Councilwoman Dur. Yeah, sure. Or is are we on second round? So, maybe back to Miss Breus. I lost. Go ahead. And then we'll get back to her. Okay. U my next question is on page 37 of the slides. So, first I I just want to start out by complimenting the manager and the team and yourself for focusing on maintenance. It is a fantastic I I have been kind of preaching maintenance the whole time I've been on council because we invest in structures and then we let them degrade and then we have huge repair costs and you can see it in our elevators. You can see it in uh roofing of buildings. Um it's on and on. So I I love how you've sort of capitalized on the fact that well we can't add a lot of staff but we do have this bucket and we can start this program. So kudos to you. I had a few questions about this on this slide. So, um, first of all, I have the $5 million and that are have we been doing five million or have we been doing more like two and a half million? Up until a couple of years ago, 2 million was probably the most and it was one of the areas that was cut at times when we needed to when we needed to balance dive in there. Okay. And then, um, I understand when we did the apparatus replacement, which I thought was really good. Um, the question I have is police facility impact fees. Can you remind me where those come from? Police facility impact fees come from new development and so this was council approved this three years ago and council actually has an item coming back to you. I believe it's on May 10th. Uh, regarding this, it's to be re revisited every three years. As far as the impact fee, it does say the impact fee is 10 years. Um, and it's based on a set amount per house. Do you know what it is? Um, as far as how much we collect each year, I know it's around half a million. No. What what it is per dwelling? Like we have residential construction tax. We all know that's $1,000 a door, 750 for apartments. We don't know what the police I do not. Do we have staff here that potentially knows? Okay. Well, when you do know, let me know. Um, and then on the parks districts, I just wanted to understand what this 220500 was 220,500. These are uh most of this is we don't really have anything in the park district right now that's is proposed as a new project. This is all for maintenance of things that we already have going on there. And so these are new parks in new uh development areas and that money is collected to create those parks. Residential construction tax. Yes. Well, so I'm confused. I guess I thought so this is to build this is based on new AR residential construction tax correct it seems small um frankly this is just maintenance really for those areas that they're keeping up in those areas um we don't have any projects that are really anticipated next year they have some that are continuing on that they've already started but we don't have any new big ones as proposed in this budget well let me just put in a pitch um to my knowledge RCT residential construction construction tax could not be used for maintenance. Can only be used for new things. So I think this funding must not be RCT. It must be general fund. Um well it's it is used in those areas because they do have to m they do have to keep up some areas as before they I understand but I know it can't be used for maintenance. We've gone round and round and round. You are correct. Yes. So this has to be new. I I would just like to have more information on it and I want to put in a pitch for Demani Ranch Park which is built quite a while back. Um we're not having new residential construction tax come in for new things but it has deteriorated significantly. The sod is essentially dead. The trees are dead. Uh there was a maze built. It's all weeds. I've had numerous complaints this last year from anywhere from a 10year-old, you know, to a 80year-old about the condition of the park. We've sent 70 pictures over to the parks department. I just want to get this on the radar and make sure that it's the largest park in South Reno. I want to make sure that we I'm not asking for more equipment, but it's about maintenance. Okay. And I thought that's what this was and that's why I thought I should bring it up now. Okay. So, I don't know where it's planned to be spent. I don't even see our parks director, but that would be my request. column. Column. Okay. Thank you, Councilwoman Breits. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I'll echo that. It's been a long time since we've had a discussion at this table where stuff needs to happen um about the parks district. We had a an issue come to us on the development side up in the north valleys and counting up all the units. I was like, where's the new park going? Because I know we're kicking off new ones. And there was no no nothing new is being built. I know we put money into Dorothy Mclendon. I know we put money into or mayor's park, uh, North Valley's, but you know, we need to keep an eye on where we're going with that parks district, and it's been a long, long time since we've had that discussion. And I think in past years, we've had that a part of budget. Now, I want to go back to the street discussion. And I prefaced in saying I don't like to kind of override because I know the needs are so good, but in past years the budget building has had a lot more private conversations and maybe I was excluded from some of those because I haven't had access to the staff, but you know, if we had sat down with the street funding budget item, you know, you might have heard from different council members about what you know they see on that to help you build the budgets, you know. So I feel like some discussions maybe didn't happen. So now the manager is saying and I think it's the appropriate response in this situation. I can't you know tell you what the implications would be of you know staying on this flat number that we find the most responsible number and alternating a mechanic or a technician for one other. But I think if we had had a little more advanced discussions or even a strategic workshop um in the last four years to drill down to work program I think maybe different answers would have been built building the budget. I'd like to go to page 29 though, 27. Now, you mentioned that we're going to add two new positions, a training and development manager and a management assistant for a building uh inspection program for buildings that have already been inspect built. And that's never been a discussion at this table. It's a completely new concept I've heard. Now, I know what our motel inspection program is that we set up. I've waited for a performance evaluation on that. I've asked because when we adopted that, we said we were going to have measurements and discussions. We've never even seen the validity or the program evaluation of that. This sounds a little bit akin to that maybe, but it also sounds to me like a lot of questions about the regulatory ability to do that. Can we just, you know, I know fire goes into, you know, Joe's vacuum store every year and and looks there, but I don't know if code or building can go in and see if someone has um, you know, the right uh, you know, support system for this, you know, was built up to seismic code. I I am very very uncomfortable with two new positions, two code about a program that we've never ever seen fleshed out. And did I miss something? I mean, was there some Mr. Manager, was there some program discussion outline for this that I'm missing that you could reference my meat back to? I think that I can uh we pay for three positions in code right now out of the building enterprise fund. Uh this is two additional positions to help with commercial enforcement out of the building enterprise fund and it goes directly to what you're describing whether things are built to code whether uh properties are maintained in a way uh on the commercial side that fits the standards of of the community. Um this is not the motel interdiction team. Um, this is just commercial enforcement and with the commercial activity that's grown in the community over the last goodness, I don't know, decade, uh, it's a need that's been identified both, uh, by the director of development services, the director of code enforcement, um, and is called out in the in the audit as a as an opportunity for us to improve the services we deliver in the community. Well, I've read all the audits and I haven't seen that. I haven't seen this program and you know the answer that I you know I think it needs more discussion before in a tight budget we just say we're throwing two positions on the answer could be and I think we need to have a discussion about it. Look code enforcement has always been um complaintbased. This is to take it proactive to commercial occupancies and here are the sort of issues we're going to do a program outline. don't just come in with two new positions for a program no one has ever heard of and knows about. I'm I'm very very struggled about with that. But I'm going to move on. Um but okay, hold on. Hold on. I just want to make sure everyone gets their time. So hold on. Councilwoman Brackus, go ahead. Vice Mayor, thank you, Madam Mayor. I'll go to Councilwoman Eert. Thank you. Um I want to say a couple things. One is sort of a general comment and it's really addressed to my colleagues which is there's always this balance between our role as council and setting policy and the micromanagement of any of the particularized departments. And so I very much bristle at the idea that we should be looking at the minutia of how many persons are hired in code enforcement. I I'm not sure that is the purview of this body. we uh administratively set the budget which allows for those things to happen. But I'm not going to question whether you know a particular department has decided that they need a particular help. I think that's what we hire the manager for and then he directs the activities of the body. So there's some balancing on that because of course we don't like to be surprised by entirely new regimes or or stood up programs. But I'm not sure that this one represents that. As I understand it and what I see here is an extension of our conversations that surround our audit in the code area. It also speaks to the fact that we don't have enough code enforcement officers to do the volume of work that they're experiencing and we've placed some priority on it. I suppose for my part the questions on this particular slide is that I hope and this is more uh directed towards our folks who are running this department is that it would include also uh tree maintenance right I don't want to find out that a commercial facility which we required to have a certain number of trees came in after the fact and cut all the trees down and then we've lost you know 120 trees in one fell swoop. So, I just want to make sure that this would be covered in that kind of an analysis. So, um if we've required you to put in trees, I think we've required you to maintain those trees and I think that council member Derer has been, you know, largely advocating this uh for years and and I think this is one area where that can be improved. So, um again, I I think I struggle with the notion that um there is also some lack of information being provided. I think uh one of the things that I observe about um this council is that um you know if you are uh available and interested in the topics the staff is available and interested to provide that information. I suppose some members who have abused staff get less information uh because they have a history of abusive tactics or hostility towards staff and really it creates this hostile work environment that results in HR complaints and so maybe the information is not being provided in the same way to the same people because of that and so I I again I think it is important that we reflect on the organization structure and understand what our role is in it. Uh oftent times I think that you know I feel like I get a lot of information in part because I ask a lot of questions in my briefings. Sometimes I'm in the building and I see a member of staff and I want to ask a question. I try to run those through the city manager's office because again he's the employee that we employ. But I also know that um when people are kind and gracious uh they are more likely to get information on a particular topic especially given that um some people have really a history of of abusive tactics towards employees in the organization. So it's just a matter of balancing that issue as we move forward. the budget, I think, is a a good time to reflect on our priorities, but I think it's also a very bad time to continue to abuse staff um through sort of misdirected um anger and hostility. So, you know, again, I think that there's lots of information that's provided that can be evaluated. I mean, these binders have been a good example of that and over a period of time. It's not like we evaluate in a vacuum. And so I think um for my part, you know, getting lost in the minutia of these two full-time employees is sort of misdirected. And so I I just think um it sounds great. I hope that the city manager's office will execute on it. Uh and I I think also focusing on, you know, information and facts rather than disinformation is also the way that I make evaluations about the budget process. So So thank you. Thank you. Wait I No you Thank you. Um, thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, I just I want I have a couple questions, but I also wanted to chime in on on the code enforcement officers because I did ask earlier about that specifically, whether you know, we we're adding code enforcement officers. Um, and I do, um, just kind of want to reiterate that, you know, I know that we need to be fiscally responsible given our our seax, you know, um, estimates keep coming in lower, but um, we do really have a need for code enforcement officers given, you know, the um, internal audit we uh, received earlier this year um, showing some deficiencies we have. So I do see a value in adding those those people just so that we can u make sure that we're um enforcing code equally you know across you know whatever um the division that we're um reviewing for code um and also I think that um those positions will also bring in revenue um you know when they find those areas that do um incur fines or things like that. So I just want to call that out really quick that I I personally am in support of those two positions. Um the other um questions I have and and this might not really be the place but I just wanted to call it out. Um on slide um 34 um there is I'm sorry I might be on the wrong one. Oh uh I was Slide 37. So, um, we have the event center at 100,000. And you said that was for the bowling center. This is, uh, the ballroom, I believe. Okay. I don't have the funds up here, but I believe that's the ballroom. Okay. Is there anything on here for the bowling center? Is that separate? That's the $2 sir charge can go toward the bowling stadium and then can also go to the event center. Okay. So, I know the bowling center isn't used year round. Is that something that we can do to help increase these funds that we can use, you know, for maintenance for other um needs in the city. We actually have a um interlocal agreement and that is managed by the RSCVA and probably manager Thornley can probably expand on that a little bit, but we do not manage the facilities. They're managed through the RSCVA. Yeah. So, the the the root of the $2 sir charge is that it's a statutory charge appended to room nights um within a given district and it could be spent on maintaining public facilities or adding um things that drive tourism within a mile of the facility where is it a mile of the facility where it's correct? I think so. Yes. Um and so, uh there's sort of a circle around the downtown core. there are only a handful of properties that pay this this sir charge. Um the trouble with the search charge, right, the practical challenge with it is that it's $2. So where um the average daily value of room nights goes up and room tax proper indexes accordingly, $2 is a flat number. And so where we see opportunity for room tax um arriving in other spaces, the $2 charge has stayed relatively flat. uh and that presents some practical challenges with respect to um with respect to you know sort of the purchasing power of that um account. The other challenge in that space is that there is an agreement in place that requires I forget off the top of my head of I think it's 70% but 70% give or take 10% of the $2 account has to go into the bowling stadium for the capital maintenance or the capital expenditures um that are called out in the contract between the city, the RSCVA and the National Bowling Congress. And so that leaves relatively little in the $2 account to do other things um around the space. Now, we've done some stuff recently um outside the bowling stadium, which hasn't historically been the case. Um again, off the top of my head, I I can't list those projects for you, but I'm certain we can provide that information. You can see where that money is going and how it's being invested in the in the downtown space. Okay. So, are you saying that we can't utilize that space to generate more um funds for the city? I It's they're not they're not it's not necessarily one for one, right? So, we we could use um I'm certain in partnership with the RSCBA, we could find some alternate uses for the bowling stadium or some alternate opportunities to use the bowling stadium. Um the difficulty with it though, and I'm I'm certain um Miss Ksky could describe it better than I'm about to, is that it is a purpose-built facility for bowling. And so we're exploring some opportunities with the university for e-gaming. Um some other um perhaps ways that we can activate the space in the absence of the National Bowling Congress being in town. Um, but the facility itself has some practical challenges that make it useful as something other than a very large bowling alley. Well, I I was just asking if we could use it for bowling purposes outside of the usual, you know, few months a year and also we just did a mural on it incorporating, you know, other uses. So, I was just curious if we if we can activate it for other things outside of the normal, you know, few months a year. Um, if that would also help with our room tax because if we have other people coming to use it, whether it be for bowling or for other esports or other activities, if that would be a way to generate funds for, you know, additional funds for the city. In the constellation of things that are possible, it is certainly possible. Um that said, until very recently, we did not have anyone uh in our compliment who uh could run events like that. We do now. Um but in terms of how we would price something like that and how we would make it feasible and control the wear and tear on the facility that does not occur when it's not being used, um I I can't give you a coherent answer today. Okay. And and just so you know that that's a position that I fought for for eight years over at the RSCVA. I've been outnumbered over there. I'm usually the only no vote over there. So um well, no, I shouldn't say that, but it's something that I've fought for for a long time to activate it. And that's where I think, you know, we're really pushing for multi-purpose. So it's not just bowling centric. And so now, you know, because we have that person helping us, we are looking at other ways we can activate it. But I think there's always a conversation to be had. But it also takes money whenever you want to use it in those other capacities. And then it becomes challenging because there are a lot of blackout dates. Um, but you know, one of the things there was the haunted house in there while the bowling was going on going on. So again, we're really trying to show it can be a multi multi-purpose building and opportunity, but it's a lot of that is controlled by the RSCVA and um I don't think they have been nearly as aggressive as they should be. I think there's been a lot of missed opportunity. Um I've been very very vocal about that over there. And then I also think there is a lot of challenge with downtown. I would just say this, you majority of the board is not um supportive of downtown initiatives, which is very very unfortunate because we all live here. We're not a big enough city where that is not in all of our backyards. I could go on and on about that and I'm happy to have a whole conversation about the RCVA and bowling and and all the ways in which we are trying to activate spaces. We've had um numerous hockey professional hockey teams reach out to us. Uh, we've had a lot of ideas come to the RSCBA and quite frankly, I don't think they ever see the light of day and I tend to be the only one over there pushing because it's our it's our facility and it's the way we activate downtown. So, um, things need to change over there dramatically. But that's a whole other conversation one day. So, anyway, just so you know, that's all on that side. But we're always open to whatever you can Yeah, whatever you can come up with. thinking, you know, in addition to activating that space, you know, the the downstream effects, you know, the room tax, you know, all these other pieces that would um come with that. So, just wanted to ask about that. Yeah. So, thank you. Okay. Oh, hold on. Go ahead. Um there is one more issue just to flag for this conversation ongoing. The way the debt on the bowling stadium is structured precludes us from um making money with it. So that would be one component piece of the machine of turning that around in terms of the activation you're describing. We'd have to restructure that. So you're saying we are not allowed to get the income from that. We are not allowed to make money on that. Yeah. A question. Yeah. Thank you. Um just a word on the bowling just for now almost eight years over uh when Councilwoman Jordan was here I mean we talked about this endlessly about expanding it even if not for revenue side just to expand use of the facility for our community. So definitely not a new conversation but glad to have a new voice on the conversation. I just wanted to go back to code enforcement for a minute and I just want to make sure I'm clear. So, this has been posed as commercial buildings. And what I want to make sure and where I think we may or may not be missing the boat has to do with um ensuring compliance with our permits. So, we issue permits. They have a lot of conditions. A lot of times things change in the field. They they don't actually roll out the way that the conditions are placed by either the planning commission or this council. They just don't. Things change. But um what what I'm wondering I maybe for you do we have a permanent inspection program? Is this is that maybe a next step that you would consider if we don't? So we do have a permanent inspection program. Um and this is part of it. This is just add enhancing the capabilities of of building of that team the building side of it. Right. So what I want to make sure and if we do you know maybe we're due for a re a discussion on code enforcement following the audit following these additions so that we can all understand where how many people there are what are they focusing on because what I don't see over there and maybe they're there are engineering technicians that would be inspecting storm water or heights of let's say we say you can place two feet of fill but suddenly there's three feet of fill which blocks you know, water on the site. Uh, we say build it this way, but they built it that way. We said make sure the road is this wide, but it's that wide or that there's so much parking, but then they don't do it. Or to council member um Reese's point, we required so many trees. Did they plant them? Are they maintaining them five years out? You know, all of these kind of things require some specialized people, not just sort of building generalists. they require people to be working with the permits that are issued and following up on the conditions. So, in a proactive way, not not in a reactive way. And we agree with that assessment. That's a a conversation we committed to having with you all um over the course of the year as we sort out the results of that audit and and propose a a solution to make sure that we're providing the best service possible in that space. One other thing could be um you know we shifted to hiring a consultant or where we put the requirement on the builders to inspect their streets. They hire a PE. The PE sends us reports. We decide whether we're accepting or not. Maybe they have to have an inspector if it's not something we can do internally where again the burden's on them to inspect the pond and certify it was built to design. expect the trees were installed per design. We have actually requirements in our ordinances that that already require this. I just want to make sure we're doing it. And that's why I'm not trying to add new requirements, but for example, on the trees, it says that a landscape um architect or the person who designed it would sign off that it was installed as it was designed. But I don't believe we receive those certifications. That's I I know we don't or haven't for a long time. So, I just want to make sure that we just if if code says you need to do it that they're doing it and sending it to us and we received it and we know by other certified people maybe not demand on our staff. We want that too. Okay, cool. All right. Well, I this seemed to be the time to talk about it. So, thank you. All right, Councilman Martinez, go ahead. Thank you so much, Madame Mayor. Vicki, thank you so much for the time you spend on this and making sure Van Beerrenfest is a success. I appreciate that. Um, I did want to stick on the topic of code enforcement. From what I was looking at in the organizational charts, those two code compliance um funding or new positions that we're uh voting on today would be put in under development services and not under code. And I understand that um compliance and maybe um reviews happen in other jurisdictions, but I'm just wondering if maybe it being in a different part of the department lends itself that position lends itself for different requirements and maybe those requirements that council member Derer had um addressed can be put into those requirements. And I know we may be getting into the nitty-gritty of things, but I just wanted to have a conversation about that. Of course. So, the way code works right now, um, as council member Breis alluded earlier, is we get a complaint, code goes out and and investigates. If there is specialized knowledge, whether that's an engineer, whether that's someone certified in um, all the many building codes, um, we then have to go find that person and they have to go out into the field and then we have a discussion about whether or not a violation exists and what the appropriate remedy would be. Um and then we repeat that process uh to to asssure that the problem has been solved. It's um it's pretty inefficient is is what we're finding. And so we're trying to build out the roster of those subject matter experts so that we can perform uh inspections that are efficient and timely and backed by the expertise required. And so that's why when we say, "Hey, we're looking at commercial compliance," it exists over there in development services. Awesome. Thank you for addressing that. Um, Mr. Truhill, if I can ask you a question. It's going to be about potholes, just to give you um an update. So, I'm just curious if any of these um positions would be able to assist um with that. I know it's a huge concern for a lot of our constituents. And from what I also saw on the Reno Direct reports, it looks like a lot of people are um obviously reporting those. So, I'm just curious if any of these positions would be able to address some of those concerns. So, the the positions that um excuse me that were being charged to the uh street fund are specific to signal maintenance work. So, they wouldn't be actively participating in pothole repairs. Um there was one position however for the maintenance three. Um, and while that position is mainly going to be used in uh sweeping operations, one of the things we do is we use all of our staff to fill potholes. And so we even have sweeper operators that have bags of asphalt on their trucks and when they see a pothole have the ability to pull over, fill that pothole and and keep moving on. So this it would um provide a level of efficiency that we wouldn't have now. Um, I would This is uh I'd like to introduce Tim Hris, our uh streets maintenance manager. Can you speak a bit about the pothole work we've done this year? Where we're sitting now? Uh, how many? Uh, for the record, Tim Andrew, streets division manager. Um, currently we are uh last numbers we ran, we're at 3,800 potholes that we filled this year. Um and we are taking in we have uh 499 uh work order service requests that we've been given and we've completed 495 of those. We have very large areas that we we take all the work orders and we conglomerate them together so that we can be more more efficient in working in a certain area at a time. Um we found as you as you kind of bounce around you don't get to them. So, we'll we'll take say uh everything on Plum Lane, we'll do everything on Plum Lane at once. Or we'll do everything on College Drive or North Virginia as we can go through that. Um you'll notice that there's a lot of areas that are kind of blown up again from this winter with with the water and that. So, we just prioritize them as they come in, we put them together, and then we go out and try to be efficient as far as taking care of all of them in an area at a time. Thank you. I appreciate the information. Before my time is up, I just want to highlight your sensitivity to that region and the southeast connector. So, thank you for that. Vice Mayor Ree. Well, just briefly because we don't get to see Mr. Hendrix or Mr. Truh Hill as often as we would like. Thank you for the work that your teams are doing. You know, I've been fortunate to spend some time over the last six months with uh your employees and my gosh, they're working hard all the time. They're a real joy to be around. A number of them have, you know, 25 year careers at the city of Reno doing work that is tough and requires long hours, commitment. Uh so, you know, they have our whole heart uh here at the city of Reno. So, it's good to see the both of you today, Madam Mayor. All right, we are on uh I believe the last round. So, we're are we on three? So, one more round or no? Have we exhausted that? This will be Council Member Breas' third round. Okay. Yeah, I mean I thought we were more in a workshop setting and I I appreciate your indulgence on these issues. First of all, um uh I appreciate that there's comments about the bowling stadium, the event center, and the ballroom. But, you know, the important thing go to me for me on that is when room taxes fall, can't make debt service. We've paid over $20 million of general funds since I've been on council, I think the number is for those debt services because of room tax shortfalls. That's how the bonds were issued on those. And so there's exposure there. But the $2 sir charge I think really was not 70% to the balling. I think we had to meet our bowling agreement capital projects which I think we have with exterior and then I think it's available for all downtown uh tourism uses. So, I think maybe um there's a little more latitude there, but I haven't been on that committee in a while. But um I'll try and refresh my memory because it's a storyline that I try and keep uh on top of. I want to talk about the Southeast Connector. So, what I understand is a million half dollar contract a year and we're proposing a million out of the sewer fund and 500,000 out of the street fund. Is that how that's going? It's actually um the total contract's 398 a year. So 39 398,000 and it's split between streets and sewers. Okay, here's the problems with these is one um this is taking over commitments that RTC made in our interlocal when we built the road. They were doing this. This was a regional road. As a matter of fact, as the only person, well, the mayor was here, too, who was here when this road was going and it had been pulled off the streets plan, but got a ball rolling during the recession. It was not a Reno project. It was a regional project. It was opposed by Reno residents strongly. And I always knew this day would come where Reno's going to take all the maintenance on it. No, not in my world. that goes back to RTC who holds those federal permits and says you budget $400,000 for maintenance because Reno's going to take the money and put it into pothole fixing or it's not coming out of the sewer fund because guess what? It's in a sewer shed area where the money doesn't even derive from that area because that is the area that goes down to Stumworf that goes all of the county and so you're tapping sewer funds from north valleys from central Reno from south Reno from west Reno to pay for maintenance in the southeast part of the valley where the sewer fund isn't even paying for that. That is absolutely not right and it's a reason why we wanted a storm water utility but that's been so slow walked so you know behind schedule but I am not supporting that my support is you go tell RTC they've got to sign up for another five years that's what this body needs to do in my view but can we go to slide 33 please because I do want to talk a little bit about um a couple things is one I'm the new liaison to the arts and culture commission and I hear and I'll try and report back at my next uh council updates of why they think that plan is needed, but they made some very good art um discussion about it since I've been on and I do want to reflect that and mayor if I could have just another minute. Okay, one more minute and then we're going to wrap it up. We've only got three and a half more hours. So, I know we do have to move um on our calendars, but um I don't see any money for what is called 501 Riverside Drive only debt service. And if we don't start putting money into that, bring it up here for what we're doing on it, which we have not had that discussion. I think we're going to be just as bad as our town in letting that building deteriorate. I haven't heard anything about the maintenance we're doing. haven't heard anything about where we are going to, you know, program that building. I see no money in there. We're going to be just as bad as our town and let that building deteriorate. So, that is a big concern for me. So, I'd like to see this bucket of money where I hear, well, the art people want to put ballards around the roundabout on the regional road at Wells Avenue. That's a road project. That's a road improvement on a roundabout. That's street infrastructure. It's not artwork that goes over to RTC also in my world. And this money comes into figure out the plan for 501 Riverside Drive because I'm very afraid. We're paying the we're doing just as poorly job as our town was on that. We haven't had a discussion on what we're doing on that building since we bought it. And I'm I go by there and I'm seeing bad signs there. So that's that's a problem for me in this in this area. I'd like to see the the ballards for a regional road come out of a diff different budget and I'd like to see a budget to go to 501 Riverside Drive to figure out what we're doing with that asset because it's going to look really bad on this council if we, you know, wrestled the building from our town for a million dollars of paying for it and then all of a sudden what happens? the roof falls in uh goes up in, you know, flames. All right. You know, shame on us. Thank you so much. City manager, did you want to Well, we've allocated a million dollars of ARP to the facility. Um, and I know that we're hard at work in terms of building out a plan to bring forward to you in terms of what's going to happen with that property. Okay. Thanks so much. Okay. Go ahead, Vicki. I am sorry. Let's get back on track. I didn't I didn't have one more. Go ahead, Councilwoman Eert. And this is probably for Travis. Um, you mentioned that the street sweepers have the capability to fill potholes as they come across them. Um, is that something that you track or do you only fill potholes that you come across that were submitted to Reno Direct or do you have any numbers on that or you know is it truly that they see them and they stop and fill them you know everyone that they see? I'm just kind of curious as to how that works. So we um it kind of depends on the situation. Every pothole is different. It's its own special thing. And some of them are very simple and easy to repair. Um where it is just a matter of the the operator gets out of the truck. And it's not just sweeper operators. It can also be um guys who are out uh cleaning up garbage from the sides of the roads. They just get out of the truck and they can fill the potholes. If it's something more substantial depthwise, size, maybe requires more traffic control, um we'll absolutely schedule it and we'll come out there with a bigger crew and and do the longer areas that Tim was talking about that um you know, Plum Lane for instance, we'll close off a travel lane and do quite a few in one day. Um does that answer your question? Sort of. And and the reason I ask is just, you know, particularly in my ward, I get um calls about um potholes that have been, you know, submitted to Reno Direct. And um people say, "Well, you know, the pothole that I submitted was fixed, but there was like one on either side of it that didn't get fixed." And granted, that's that's different. That's not a a sweeper that came through, but I was just curious, you know, if you guys track that or if it's um you know, documented somewhere where you guys fix them. Um or um you know, if you kind of review um Reno Direct um potholes as your street sweeping as well. So, just kind of curious about that or if you have any numbers on, you know, how many these street sweepers are are um filling, you know, as part of their usual rounds. Yep. Um Tim had kind of touched on it actually. I think he had the exact numbers of it uh earlier, but um I think uh we were talking just since January. So, yes, to answer your question, we do track them. Uh we use uh we get notifications through direct. Uh we get phone calls directly made to us often. Uh we go through and and we prioritize pothole work. But this I mean outside of Reno direct submissions like absolutely just the ones that you guys see do you guys keep a log of those as well? Correct. Okay. Correct. that's on our daily work orders or daily work sheets we do and and the guys will come in and report that yes, we did these potholes. And often what we're seeing is the guys will pick up potholes and remedy the pothole issue. Um while we're getting the simultaneously we're getting the the request in through Reno Direct or phone calls or emails. Um Tim, you want to can you give those numbers again to her? Yeah. Sorry about that. That's okay. For the record, Tim Hendra, she streets division manager. So just out of ren direct we're at the 3,800. Um but if you go by what we've done this year actual with what we've done we're pushing 6,000 and so they will come across them and they will they will record them on their paperwork. Also what you'll find too with the potholes is so you have a now you have a a bad area of asphalt and so as they fill it they think it's you know they're done with it but the the areas around it will then blow up with traffic on them because it's already unstable. So, so there might be a pothole that's been done and later on there could be a couple more that show up after we've been there to fill it. So, it's it's one of those things where with this weather we have just, you know, bad areas. We try to we try to fill them um and then later on with traffic and that it'll create another one next to it. Okay. Thank you. Okay, we're ready. Okay, for the record, Vicky Van Beerren, director of finance. Again, I'm going to switch to slide 56, which is where we stopped. We're going to switch gears a little bit here and talk about long-term liability funding along with um maintenance and reserves and doing all of those long-term things that make the budget fiscally sustainable. Long-term liability funding does that as well. Um we have workers compensation. We have OPED which is the other post employee benefits obligation. These are obligations for um medical insurance and medical payments. uh postretirement. So an employee retires and some of those are eligible for medical benefits after retirement. That's what OPED is. And then we have risk insurance premiums. We fund these. These are all self-funded. So the departments pay to these funds and then we run them kind of like a business. You can see that workers comp premiums is really the area where we've spent uh really been growing that. So that's the big green area. we've been growing that payment toward that long-term liability. The OPEB, we didn't really start funding that until 2016. And then risk insurance, we haven't really increased that over the years, and it was pretty much non-existent during the the uh recession. So, when you look at workers compensation, that has a a total liability similar to um the postmployee benefits liability. It's an actuarial study based on the number of employees and the number of retirees. The effect in here, we do have a larger um liability in here because of the long-term benefits that are provided to your public safety employees. They have a lifetime benefit for some of those items uh that are workers comp related. And so right now our liability is at $62 million and we're funded up to we have cash in there about $18 million. But you can see where we started in 15 with that line um down below and we've grown that. So we've grown this to pay down that liability and this is one area where council has really given us that direction to um continue to fund these unfunded liabilities. When you look at the post employee benefits that retiree health, when we started funding that in 2016, it's approximate $150 million liability. Uh we have it funded now at $20 million, which is amazing because we just started it in 2016, which is actually the year I came here to the city. And so there's a net of $130 million liability. For this one, we potentially would want to fund it up to around 50 to the 60% mark and then the interest earnings on the account and the investments of the money would continue to fund it on an ongoing basis. So that's the goal of this. We build it up to a point that we don't have to contribute into it anymore. And so I really when we started on this even a few years ago, I didn't really think that there was an end in sight in this. We continue to do this and it's the right thing to do. But if you look at it how we've have it projected out to continue the current funding which is $4 million and continue that out to 2033. We will have this funded in 10 more years. So in 10 years this will be funded. We can use the money from this to do the payo because currently we're doing a payo for the current employees plus we're contributing to this. So we're really paying on it twice. Uh once this is funded that will free up money in the general fund. This is uh the last area I wanted to talk about. Well, I have two more. I have risk. This is a risk fund. Um what you have in here are um risk program. It's the claims management, the risk mitigation, um safety assessment and similar things. This one, we've seen a steep increase in the insurance premiums in here. So, that's why you see the the ending cash going down quite a bit. So, we're going to have to contribute more to this fund going forward. Um, not for next year, but following budgets, we will start to have to build a better program in here based on the the current insurance costs in here and the programs that are being administered. Um, one of the things that nationwide we've seen an increase in insurance premiums and that's mostly due to national events like floods and um, hurricanes and such. And maybe we don't have these items, but it has increased premiums across the board nationwide. And so we have seen a steep increase in those premiums. Medical fund. Again, these are all self-funded through the city. Um city pays these claims, but they do uh pay a um TPA or a plans administrator to administer the plans, but the claims are actually paid by the city as self- administered. Um, you'll see that we didn't have uh a lot of money in this fund back in 2015. We were below 10 million. Right now, we're up around 20 million and that's really kind of the sweet spot where we want to stay is around the 20 million mark. If you remember during the pandemic, we gave a medical premium kind of holiday to the employees. So, that took down some of that money. You'll see in 2020 that dip in the the funding there in cash. Um, but even doing that, we're still maintaining around the $20 million mark. And we have we're kind of at a sweet spot again where we are um at the point where we want to be dollar-wise even though we are seeing kind of an increase in some of the claims and some of the dollars in there. It's um the premiums for medical we have not increased to the employee across the board since 2017. And I think that's very remarkable. The last thing I want to talk about here is uh the fee schedule. We had a lot of discussion last time we were here in the March workshops regarding some of the changes uh to two particular fees. The administrative appeal fee which uh was scheduled to go up and then the land use appeal fee. And so, um, initially what was proposed in March was $112 for the administrative appeal fee and, um, we're going to, we're recommending that go back to the $68 amount, which is consistent with the CPI increase for the current year. So, that would go to, uh, 68. Council's other concern during that meeting was the land use appeal charge because um, based on our fee study, it was shown it needed to be around $642 to pay for the cost to do that. Um, council had some concerns on that and so we're recommending that go back to $100. So for those two fees, those were the only two changes that we heard from council's input last time. Um, since the time we met, the senior citizens advisory committee, the parks and recck commission, and the financial advisory board have all reviewed the fee schedules and agreed with this. And as far as um, they have agreed with the methodology and such for the other fees. the building enterprise fund advisory committee. It was agendaized to be discussed in April, but they did not have a quorum, so they won't discuss it until their next meeting. So, this is just my wrap-up on the uh items that you've seen today, the 14 new positions being proposed. For the 14 positions, you're looking at $1.9 million. Five would be from the street fund, four from the sewer fund, two from the building, and then three in the general fund. Those are the paramedics which are costneutral. And then an all fund summary. This page just shows you everything from uh each particular area, including full-time positions as well as uh the extra enhancements such as the additional contracts and such. And so in total, you're looking at $3.8 8 million and the 14 full-time positions. Um, this is my last slide and I'm just bringing this back to you. It's one you saw earlier and this is just the proposed additions based on council priority. Um, giving you that information again to um look at based on council priorities. And again, it's $3.8 million that's being proposed as the additions to the budget. And so with that, that that concludes my section of this. Um, Miss Kosski would be up next to do the um project highlights for street fund and I'm available to answer any more questions on this section. Okay, let's have a round of questions from council and then let's go into break. Okay, I'm going to start with you counciloman. Yeah, thank you. Um, at our last meeting and again I don't know which part of the budget this is but seemed like you were sliding into home base here. Um I had requested that you consider a small budget5 or $10,000 for um some of the commissions that have no funding. So some do. I mean the arts commission has $200,000 to work with approximately. Um the um um accessibility committee has I think $40,000 to to put in ADA type stuff. So um were we able to find a place for that? that it isn't a lot of money and it wouldn't rise to the level of this big budget presentation, but I just wanted to know did we put it in council funds or liaison funds or what what are we doing with that? Council member Der. Yeah, we have not yet resolved a a plan of attack on on that particular request, but we are actively sort of racking our brains on how we might be able to accommodate just knowing it's still on the table. This is our last day on budget. So, I wanted to daylight it again. And again, I had said you it's up to you how you want to figure that out. But I do think it would relieve council funds for for us having to pay for things like award ceremonies and rental of a room and so on and so forth in minor expenses, but they could be a little bit more independent. That'd be great. Thank you. Thank you on that one. Council Breus. Yeah, I just, you know, I I didn't get a chance to talk about the code enforcement add-ons the other day and or the last goound and um I know we did an audit. It just seems like a step's been skipped. And I'll just say here is one of the positions was a training manager. Well, we have a training manager that's newly onboarded in HR and very few departments have their own training managers, you know, and this is a division and so I don't recall the link of that to the audit. I want to know why it can't be covered by the HR person um and that program that I have not even heard how that's doing or any outcomes of that. And so that's the problem I see. And also um in the past, you know, the person who did a lot of that special use permit um code compliance for the commercial was a landscape architect and I heard something about trees. So landscape architect is really, you know, is it a but it's a code officer. So I just I really have a problem of this step step over is budgeting before outlining a program by the council. Problematic to me. I'm going to go on. Um the other one is oh Miss Derer mentioned you know money for all the boards and commissions. If we ever go into strategic planning workshop again which you know I was there in October 2019 so at least I had some say on it and like three of my colleagues. I would really want an overhaul analysis of all of our boards and commissions before we plug money to some of them. Um, which would be a new, you know, standard for some of them. So, um, if we ever do a workshop, strategic planning workshop and get a work program for our city manager, that would be on my list. Um, in terms of risk, you have characterized that the risk increases and pays or insurance, but when I go through a lot of the accounts payable, I see a lot of payout on risk. And so any risk, anything coming out of the risk that's a payout um that's not under like an ongoing contract, that comes to this body. Correct. If it's more than 50,000, I believe it does. Yes. Do Mr. manager because I've seen a lot of like risk repeat your questions risk payouts come to us correct if they're above a certain amount correct can we run back to the slide please and I so risk payouts in the form of settlements of contested claims that are above a certain amount come to you what this chart has um is increased expenses that are driven primarily by increased insurance premiums that Miss Van Beern described on another chart Yeah, and I heard that. But I'm I'm What's the breakdown? What's the trend of payouts versus insurance premiums? I think I brought this up before. I'm certain we can get that for you. But in general, in general, casualty insurance has about doubled. Okay. For everyone who pays for that. And on the medical side, pharmacy has become extraordinarily expensive over the last three or four years. And that's reflected here. It is risk is risk pays the insurance premiums for the organization. So the risk fund is where we draw from when we pay for insurance for the healthare the employee healthcare. I thought we had our own fund for employee healthcare for pharmacy. Is that true? Is that true? I think it comes from the medical fund. Okay. Then this is casualty insurance for vehicles and for property. And just so that you're aware, our insurance premiums altogether for um property and liability and such in here, they were previously around a million dollars. They're running $2 million now, two years later. And it doesn't have um some of that is to to the riots because we did have the riots here. Um some of that's due to um just nationwide the claims as far as being filed impact us on our new um property insuranceances as we go forward. And so that has doubled. Um, typically we budget for claims payouts anywhere from a million to a million and a half. And typically we don't pay that out, but we generally budget a million to a million and a half for just the claim payouts that you're talking about um outside of insurance type claim payouts. Yeah. I mean, I'm submitting to the council that we need periodic reports on what the payouts are, what the amounts, if they don't even rise to us, because that tracking that is a parameter of how the organization is doing. And that includes, you know, when someone is let go as an employee, you know, is the separation agreement executed and are they paid out of risk or are they paid out of the department separations? Because I'm seeing a lot of those, too. and they're causing me concern over the fiscal oversight of the of the city and and I wanted to flag that. But my last question really is about fees about fire transports. Is that in your fee schedule? Fire transports I confirmed with um our fire department they do bill for transports in the ambulance if it is if the patient has insurance. They do not bill the patient. I'm concerned that that's not that needs to be in clearly in our fee schedule in my world view. Okay? We need to know what it is. And I'm also concerned that some people are getting charged and others aren't. And I'll tell you, I've done some research is that one community I'm familiar with, they have a, you know, different state, but a property tax increment, property override, you know, 130 residents. So everyone everywhere all the time gets free transport, you know, through that from the fire department here. I just I don't understand how we can have two service levels in a billing practice for one group, one group of people. And um I'd like to see one of these bills. I'd like to know how many bills are coming out. I'd like to know what people are being charged and I think it should be in our fee schedule because I don't see that how there the authority exists to send someone a bill if it's not in our fee resolution. All right. Thank you. Uh Madame Clerk, where are we at? Council member Breis and Dor have had one round each. Okay. Before we move on, I actually think we should invite Mr. Pingri uh to the lectern to describe why a training manager is necessary in this space. We have innumerable uniform codes that need to be enforced. It's specialized training. It's a specialized knowledge base. Um and it's it's an efficiency for the organization. Good afternoon. Chris Pingri, director of development services. So over the last few months, we've um really started diving down into some of the research and some of the some of the issues that we have within a department of our size that encompasses so many different uh facets of the development community, whether it's what's been brought up today as far as landscaping and trees not being completed or finished the way they were supposed to be. We have we have determined that within our own department, we have a specialty need for the enforcement piece of that. um whether that's just work without permit to help with the redundancy of code enforcement and built in and the building department working together at the same time or whether it's a you know a landscape bond that's being called back two years later that we don't field verify whether that work was performed or not. So we have everything from our engineering services to go back out to make sure that the engineer of record was correct when they signed this off or whether it was a planning case that they were required 85 trees to live you know forever whether or not those trees are still there two years down the road when we when we issue that when that landscape bond is given back. So over the last few months, we've really started looking into that and in order to provide the right process for this, we need somebody who is going to manage that process because this is going to involve all three divisions within building. It's also going to involve code enforcement, parks and recreation. It's going to take a a a sole p one sole person in order to put to get this off the ground. And we do feel that that is the best method in order to put this together to make a collaborative effort within development services to enforce the multiple multiple codes and and ordinances that we do have to enforce in our department as well. Okay. All right. Madame Mayor ask any further questions? Hold on before I get to you. I do. Okay. Councilwoman Breus, three minutes. Page 65. I've heard tremendous concern through the organization about the increase of positions that are outside of the civil service commission. We all know that we have certain limits of how many can be outside of the civil service commission appointed, you know, um and um appointed officials. the maya manager can as he has just call someone up he knows and say hey I have a position I want to hire you for no open recruitment no merit recruitment but the rest of our organization runs on merit and I did get a memo recently that we're doing a compensation and classification study and there's a desire to change some of that but that's going to be a big topic of discussion but I'd like to know of these positions the street fund are those going to be civil service all of them yes I believe so the sewer fund Are those going to be all civil service? Yes, I believe so. The two building fund. Yes. Civil service, open recruitment. Okay. And then the other three in the general fund. These would be paramedics. So, okay. So, everything that's coming through this budget will go through the civil service commission will be merit-based are not as we call exempt and can be hired through other mechanisms that the manager chooses that are non-competitive. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. All right. Any further questions? Yeah. 45 minutes. Thank you. Go right ahead. All right, Madame Mayor, we'll go ahead and reconvene the meeting at 1:59 with all members present. Looks like Carrie Kosski is going to take it away. All right. Good afternoon. Afternoon, madame mayor and city council members. Car for the record, Carrie Kosski, director of public works, your city engineer. So, as Vicki uh said, going to talk about projects in the street fund. So, um before I do that, oops. Do you want me to advance the slides, madame clerk? Okay. Okay, before I do that, um, in the second row back behind me is the public works leadership team that I'd like to introduce and say that this team without them I couldn't do we couldn't do everything we do and I'm very gracious to have them on my team. Um, I have my assistant director is Khalil Wilson sitting in this in the middle there. Next to him is Katie Harrison which you heard from last week. She's our engineering manager. And then next to Katie is Trish Sebastian, our administrative services manager. She's basically the wizard behind the sewer fund curtain and the street fund curtain. She knows all of the the magic behind what happens there. And then on the other side of of Khalil is uh Kurt Dietrich, our traffic engineer. And then next to Kurt is Amy Pennington. She's our special coordinator uh special projects coordinator. and just great just to have all of these people on my team. They they just do fabulous things. So, um I'll get kicked off here with what So, the format here is I've got about seven slides for you. Um talking about what we're what we've done in the street fund and what we're going to do with the street fund. And same thing with our sewer collection projects. And you might you might be asking yourself, why am I talking about sewer collection projects? And basically, they're capital improvement projects. Anything that's under a street, the public works team does things. Um after my presentation, Director Mcun will talk about the uh utility services and all things uh sewer that um all of the studies, everything that's kind of uh plant related and not really under a street if if you want to look at it that way. So get started. Um neighborhood streets for 24 um CIP we're we're asking for about $25 million. And the way we're going to break that down is through neighborhood streets, traffic safety, um maintenance operations, and bridge program. And I'll talk a bit about each one of those. So, first off, I want to tell you what we're doing this year. Uh just kind of to recap, in 2023, I want to talk about the neighborhood street program. And what the goal of the neighborhood street program is to keep the average of all streets condition in the in the good condition range. So what that means is you think about it as um um in terms of grades. So a grade A would be an excellent and an F would be a failure. It's the same thing with streets. And we look at we put a number to that because we're engineers. That's what we do. And we're not unique. Other other uh agencies do the same thing. They rate their streets uh with a uh pavement condition index. Right now our neighborhood streets are um right about 78. So, that's a B, right? And that's really a good place to be with your neighborhood streets. Um, the local our our neighborhood streets, we have about 500 centerline miles of those streets. Um, we bring back we bring to council the confirmation of the reconstruction streets about every two years. And the reason we do that is be is staff will try to get ahead of um the utility projects that might need to occur um development projects that might be um in the works. So in 2020 um uh two council confirmed the neighborhood streets for 2023 and we just kicked off in Ward 4 up there in the Talis uh area. We started that that one um this week. um the Vaness Vaness area which is up there off of Keystone. It's in the center of the map on the the left. That one along with Akard u we're about to put those out to bid. The reason why we delayed bidding is um those two we didn't put them all out this year is because the city of Reno used to lead the bidding efforts. We used to put get all of our projects ready to go out to bid early in the in the year like January and everybody figured out our technique. When we did that, we got better prices. We got our projects done quickly. Now the RTC, City of Sparks, Wo County, they're all doing the same thing. They're putting their projects out early. So there's a lot of competition. been working with the uh AGC and they suggested, hey, maybe you don't want to just overload us because we're not going to be able to give you good prices. Um so we took a step back and we're trying to stagger them. That's why we're doing that. Now, um if it turns out that we get to one of those projects like in the Van Vanesse area and we don't think that we can get that done this year, we're not going to start. We learned a valuable lesson with Watt last year. So, thank you for all of the feedback and we won't do that again. Um, why do we when we select streets, we don't select streets by ward and the reason we don't is because we rotate around in the city. We've got a backlog of nearly $300 million. If we focused on one ward, we would be in that ward for 10 years or, you know, eight years. Um we rotate around the city so we can provide fairness to all of the residents but we do group the streets and that's why you see that on that on the slide. Um want to talk a little bit about surface treatments. We are seeing that our surface treatment prices are staying right around 20 25 cents a square foot. And remember a surface treatment is like an oil change in your car. It's preventative maintenance. And we want to continue to keep our good streets good. So all of the streets that we have accepted the developers do have to put a surface treatment on those but then in another six to seven years we program them for more preventive maintenance. We are seeing that we can extend the life of pavements um up to 10 15 additional years. Typically pavements are designed for a 20-year life. Um want to talk a little bit about the square foot prices that have that we're seeing. Um Katie and I were just kind of laughing about that this morning. Our square foot prices three years ago we were using $12 a square foot. We are now an average price of 19 to $23 a square foot. Now it kind of depends on how much other things you have to do besides the pavement. One of the things what we're focusing on as Councilman Councilwoman Breus brought up is sidewalk connectivity, ADA connectivity. um uh traffic safety devices, all of those things, it all adds up. So, we've been spending about $3 million each year on our surface treatments and about $20 million on our reconstructs. That gets us about five centerline miles a year. Okay, more highlights. So more more things that we do with the street program with with the street fund other than keep our good condition our streets in good condition is we focus on other great things. Um this year we installed uh six speed radar signs and five rapid flashing beacons for pedestrian safety. Um we completed the Virginia street placemaking study with an imple implementation plan approved by the council. Um we completed the micromobility pilot study. Um, I'm very very um pleased to report that we also developed a data-driven approach to prioritizing school zone beaker beacons and been working with several of the council members to get additional uh beacons out into our community. We've got a about a three I think it's around $3 million need for school beacons. We're not just using street fund. Um RTC is pledged to use some of their dollars in the traffic spot um program. Kurt was successful in getting the RTC to do that. Um we've also responded to over 800 citizen service requests. Um Kurt's team implemented a pedestrian safety zone on Sier Street in downtown Reno. Um, we implemented the first ever pilot project for nighttime speed limits on Veterans Parkway. And, um, you're probably going to, as long as I'm here, we're going to do pilots because I think that's the best. I think we we get a lot of good information out of pilot studies. Um, we completed and designed um the contract for the retroreflective. That's the the uh signals there with the retroreflective around it. Um Kurt's group went ahead and got that out to bid and I think they've started or nearly starting that work. So what do we have planned for 2024? So um as I mentioned the 2024 uh neighborhood streets were confirmed by this count were confirmed by this council. We're going to concentrate in three different areas. I'll start on the slide from the left to the right. Um, East University Way is what we're calling it. We have about seven streets. They're located in wards uh, three and four. Kind of crosses the boundaries there. Um, Yori to the north side of Yori, which is Mil Street to Vasser. Um, that particular unit will be in Ward 3. And then Yori Avenue South um, which is Plum Lane to Gentry. Those streets there are in Ward One. One of the things that we did this year with our pri our CDBG, our community development block grant prioritization is we looked at how we could take other funding sources and utilize those funding sources in other areas to get as much bang for our dollar with the community development block grant money. So we are uh we've prioritized um some school flashers in the three school area the the the areas in the Yori north and south. We have three schools. We have Booth Elementary, Vaughn Middle School and Loader Elementary School and those are all under design. So street so the traffic uh p the uh priorities for traffic engineering and safety will continue to focus on um infrastructure for traffic calming, speed humps, um speed radar and uh flashing beacons. Uh we also in the uh north valleys we will be we will starting the design for phase one of that uh maintenance and operations facility. So, we've been working very closely with director Truh Hill and his team on um the early stages of the design and what and what that facility is going to look like. We know that we probably don't have enough money, but this will get us started. So, we part we purchased those on the picture on the lower right hand side. We purchased those two parcels in the north valleys just off off of North Virginia being ward 4. Um, and it's just southeast of Lemon Drive. That really aligns with all of the with three of the major council priorities. The fiscal sustainability because it aligns resources to focus on priority services, infrastructure and climate change by minimizing environmental impacts and then organizational effectiveness by creating uh by promoting greater efficiencies. So, sewer projects. This is the um how about this? I'm going to skip that slide. We'll go back to that. How right? Um sewer fund. So, I said um public works capital projects, we do everything that's essentially under the pavement. So for fiscal year 23 um our sewer collections and capacity projects that we completed last year was the lure the excuse me the lear force main which is in ward 4. We upsize upsizing and additional capacity for the north valleys. Uh Chvy Chase uh sewer project which is in ward one um removed a sewer main that uh maintenance and operations was having very a lot of difficulties uh maintaining. Couldn't they couldn't get access so we moved that into the street. uh Pemrook Drive um near Veterans actually went under Veterans in Ward three. We replaced an aged out sewer main and um by boring underneath the new roadway, not having to cut the new roadway, uh placing a casing in, inserting new piping. And then um the the cured in place lining project um is it basically covers all wards um certain segments of pipe uh totaling up to about nine miles of um lining and then the Humboldt North and South Sewer rehabilitation project. I am pleased to say that we are we replaced aged out sewer mains that were in several alleys that very much needed it in the old southwest. So what are we going to be focus on focusing on in fiscal year 24? We're we're going to be focusing on basically two main categories. The collection system condition and collection system capacity. the the primary focus is going to be um for the collection system I in 2024 the Talis street rehab area up there in Ward 4. We got I think we're doing in about $3 million worth of work and then we've got another 10 miles of pipe that we're going to line. Um the annual sewer on call will be ad advertising and bidding next month. As far as the capacity system projects, um we work very closely with director Mcun's uh group here. They identify the priority, the needs for those and then assign them and we go out and put them out to uh hire a consultant to do the design um put them out to bid. So the first project is the Mill Street uh interceptor design that's located in Ward 5. Um it is a interceptor that's parallel to the river um basically from White Fur to McCarron. It's approximately 12,000 linear feet of sewer main and will increase um the size to support flows from the Verdai area. The McCarron Plumis capacity project that one is in Wo. It's in the southwest um Plumis between McCarron and Manzanita. There's an increase uh capacity for that sewer line from 10 inches to 15. We're going to relocate it in the ride ofway for better maintenance and operation uh access. Um Moya interceptor capacity project. That one there is in Ward 4. Um it's it's approximately 167 1700 feet of sewer pipe upsizing it from 12 inches to 18 inches from Silver Dawn Drive to Beacon uh Cove Drive. And then Island 8 um super excited about this project and we did receive a a grant um for uh a portion of this project. It's located in Ward 3 and it is near Audi and Montello. It's bounded by Whitikin on the north, Audi to the south, and Helina to the west. Um, currently this project will set us up for adding piping into the neighborhood so we can get um those folks off of septic and onto city sewer services. Um, the last project on there is the Keystone Booth Siphon, which is in Ward One. Um I think we've had a couple of presentations or maybe one presentation at the NAB on this one. Um the Booth Street siphon runs underneath the Truckucky River um near Booth and Riverside and it's had it's reached its useful life and we're replacing it um with a new main. We won't be um disturbing essentially. It's going to be in in very close to the same proximity that it is right now. So those are the highlights of what what the public works team is concentrating on and I will stop there and open it up for questions. All right, madam Mayor C. Uh hold on before I go to Councilwoman Doris. Go ahead, Vice Mayor Ree. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um I need some help though from our clerk. I I want to pull up something that is an overlap with the presentation. First of all, Miss Ksky, always an absolute joy to hear from you. And especially, I appreciate your recognition of your team. I know that everyone in the organization has people that are working with them and alongside them. It's always nice to hear uh who they are and put names to faces. Um although I I think we know most of the folks, it's always good to acknowledge. Uh you're very gracious in that regard. I also think you are someone who I wish we could clone because uh we need more of you and and your brain power and and we can't make more of you, so we'll just do with what we got. So, thank you for that. I wanted to look at this because I I understood and appreciated much of your conversation about the road maintenance projects. And there's an odd way in which it overlaps with something I'm interested in. This is our north valley's improvements.com project landing page. something that I've been spending a lot of time with obviously because of my time on RTC and I want our community to understand the considerable amount of effort that we're making to make improvements in the north valleys and so this is a good place for me to do that. You've identified a couple both past projects and also I think one future project uh that you mentioned and I want to know are those included here? I mean, where can I point people to the public to because I've had, for example, I've had a business owner in the last week reach out and say, "Hey, you know, they're about to ready to kick off something in front of my business and I need to know about it." And then we of course know that NDOT is proposing expansions on 395, which overlaps with some of the public lands discussion. So, there's just a lot going on here. So, how do we read some of your project together with this particular landing page? And maybe that's a good starting point for my conversation with you. Yes, thank you very much for that and and I appreciate you putting this map up because um we are pointing all of the um public to this map right now. The the legend on the I guess the lower yes the lower left hand side basically that talks about all of the RTC projects that are going to be happening in the north valleys and also the INDOT projects. So, so I've been working very closely with uh Director Keller over at RTC and and my staff behind me and we've been focusing on we've been committed to keeping this up to up to date. Um well, and those RTC projects are funded out of the RTC. Are we except that we're sharing the cost on part of Sky Vista? Is that correct or no? No. No. Okay. So all of the ones you are identified here are part of ones that we have advocated for and gotten through at RTC. So those are the RTC projects. The NDOT projects obviously are the phase one and two for the 395 expansion and three phase two is also an expansion of old 395. Correct. Okay. But that is also not city of Reno funded. Correct. Now, on this um uh chart or this landing page, the city of Reno projects though, these are ones that we have had a direct financial oversight on correct in past budgetary years. Are there any in for next year that are represented on this map? So, we have the um the Talis area that's in red and I believe it's in if you scroll up. Yeah, we've got to scroll up just if you scroll up in the legend there, it talks about the city of Reno projects, which ones have been completed and which ones are in the future. Well, and the other thing I think is important like the mayor's park phase three construction, some of those funds came out of CDBG. Yes. Right. And so the way that we have used CDBG is to find different pockets of money for different projects. Yes. All in the north valleys. Right. Okay. Well, thank you for that. I appreciate the explanation. I think it's a good uh reminder. Yes, Mr. I think you're up next. Yeah. Um, thank you, Carrie. I thought very thorough as always. really excellent. I wanted to ask you about um one or two of these projects. So the McCarron to Plumis. So are you you basically going to tear up Plumis and a section of McCarron or what's the plan to put in a new sewer pipe? Right. Right now we're in the preliminary design phases. So we haven't identified exactly where the alignment of the new pipe will go, but but it's coming. We're working on a a scope and we'll be having we'll we'll put that out to a consultant um and we'll have more details. So when we bring the when we bring the consultant contract to council then we'll have a presentation that shows Okay. Well, are you anticipating I guess I'm wondering where on Plumis are you anticipating starting roughly? Is it Plum? Is it uh Mount Rose? I believe it is Plum. It's on Plumis um Plumis between McCarron and Manzanita. Oh, between to Manzanita. So, not even all the way to Moana. No, I gotcha. Okay. At least at this time, we we don't believe we need to take the scope that far. Okay. And then I think I had another question. Uh maybe someone else will ask this, but the Keystone to Booth siphon. So, that's a sewer pipe, right? Correct. And are you doing it in concert with the Keystone bridge? Booth bridge potential. Good question. Um, actually, no, we we want to do the siphon before the bridge is work starts. It's very important that we were not in conflict because of traffic and the residents. Gotcha. Thank you, Miss Breas. I think you were up next. Thank you. Um, thank you, Miss Koski. Going to uh number 69. Um, slide 69. I'd like to talk about your traffic safety. Now, that's an eight a very small $800,000 um budget line. It's increased over the years um since I recall, but it's still small for what I think hits the council inboxes a lot, which is neighborhood traffic concerns. And we had some discussion earlier on that. So I want to understand and outline how this 800,000 is um assigned distributed because it seems to go sometimes with the neighborhood project it's a component there or sometimes it's you know somehow outside of this body's decision making it's done administratively and I think we need a fair outline process because I have three in ward one right now that I want to talk to you know talk about so what what is the thinking how are we going to do that uh it's a rolledup budget item them. Are there projects right now? So, right now we're in we're working on developing the uh traffic safety projects. I will say with our um street fund and our neighborhood streets, we have taken we're taking a very um uh aggressive approach to traffic safety in all of our designs. And that money would not be used for that. that would come out of the 23 million dollars. Okay. So, anything that we need within a street project. So, you had mentioned the the Marsh um and Sharon project. I meant Mount Rose. Excuse me. Mount Mount Rose and Sharp. So, that particular project is on our um is has been confirmed and it's 2025. I'm going to look over my shoulder. Yep. 2025. Um, so when we do that project, we're going to take a very good look at all of the traffic safety and then we will use the the street fund. So the traffic safety the 800 thou or 795,000 that'll be used for special spot areas, right? Okay. Okay. In one year it did go with the ambassador project, remember? So So the answer is yes. you know, it's separate apart from the neighborhood street projects and council's going to have input to those or you're going to give us a list and show us how it goes. Okay. And then the bridge program, that's really important to me because bridge maintenance is very important and actually the W1 NAB is going to be discussed in the Keystone Avenue bridge next week because there is so much alarm about it. and I pulled out my file on it where in 2012 I started to ask for all the inspection reports and the um scouring. Yeah. You know, and then we plugged in realized it wasn't getting scoured and now we have a scouring line item for that bridge. Um but this this item is also grown. So what is in the $373,000 bridge program? So I'm very pleased to say that we have four bridges under the RTC program for design. Yeah, that money is basically anything that needs to happen with those bridges will come out of those that those buckets of money bridge maintenance. This is just bridge maintenance. And which bridges are we maintaining with this? Evans evans. Sorry. Trina Mcun director of utility services. For the record, this is for the um Evans Creek Road crossing. Okay. Um there's some deflection in under the bridge that we've um identified and so it's to repair repair um at least one cell under that bridge. Okay. That's a little project. Well, that's the design. So, the construction will obviously be in the next fiscal year. What about the annual scouring of the Keystone Avenue peers? I thought annually we were getting down and getting someone to scrub those peers and Right. So, the Keystone Bridge is is slated to be replaced. Currently, we do have staff going out there um at least at um when it's triggered at a threshold of the river um peak flow rate right now and we're inspecting the bridge twice a day um just making sure that we're watching for deflection and things like that. Deflection. Okay. So that's just eyeballing, you know, risk, but I thought we had an annual hund I thought it was $125,000 to go down, have someone underwater and get all the gunk off the bridge and scrub it. Endpot does that. And and I suspect that, you know, because we're going to have high water here for quite a while. If there is a bridge that has been inspected and and there's a note that says there's a scour issue, they'll send the divers down. Okay. Okay. And then I do have another question, but I'll on the sewer, but I'll let that go. Um, but twice a day inspection of the Keystone Avenue Bridge. Wow. Any other council members have comments at this time? If not, I'll come back. Hold on, Miss Bus. Let me just check with my colleagues. Okay, Miss Breas, this will be the LA second round. Yeah, the other question was on this design for the mill interceptor. And um I don't recall hearing that one. I'm even foggy on why it's called the Mill Interceptor if it's supposed to be between White and West McCarron. It's actually the Lton Interceptor. That's probably more familiar to to you. It's the Lton Interceptor. Yeah. Okay. But you're calling it on your Yeah. You know, I'm I'm sorry. Over here to you. Um I've been calling out my slides and I did 77. So the Mill Interceptor, which we call the Len Verdi Interceptor. Okay. Um that's under design. Not no not under design yet. We're in the scoping phases. We're working with uh utility services to determine the limits. Um we will bring back a consultant agreement for the design. I'm not there on this. Okay. I am not there on this one because I think we need to get other things going first like the Keystone booth siphon and other things. you know, we don't have the capacity. We don't have the capacity. This is way out there growth. It's growth that, you know, at this time as we're moving in a different way, you know, in the market, we don't want to get a stranded asset on top of a stranded asset because the Lenin Verdite Interceptor, I think we're still carrying debt on it, right? It um it might be paid off this year. I think it was paid off this year. it was paid off this year, but we we put a lot of money out there and it hasn't come to valition. I think we also have other timing issues out there um like the overpass and so I'm not this is how it works to my colleagues. This is how it works. This is why we have a large swath of West Reno still on septic tank with people not having leechfield options and the river getting polluted with nitrates because all of a sudden, and I don't blame you all. I'm I'm sure someone got in your ear, someone who wants to sell a lot of homes and land. But we need to come back here and not let a collection capacity design jump ahead, come out of the blue and jump ahead of other things we were going to do. the Keystone booth siphon. Yes, we are. That one's moving slower though. We don't have a plan for island 18. I don't want to see what I saw happen out in North Valleys where lift station here, lift station here, lift station here. We're helping everyone else, but we're not helping our core area that's been paying, you know, in this community a long time and has their deficiencies. We've gotten better. we've gotten more strategic, but I I am not comfortable with this mill. And not only that, I think you I think you're going to have a stranded asset on it. You know, I know the council wants to, you know, bond $30 million for Toll Brothers, but and their infrastructure needs, but I think those projects are going to get moth moth balled. So, I think the consultant needs to really look at the projections on the land use. And this is, you know, we haven't talked about the master plan implementation a long time, but that was one of the top master plan implementation um items that the council has not done given any thought to in years, which is absorption of lots of, you know, of property to plan our infrastructure around. So, I just I just don't feel that that one's fine-tuned from what I understand. If it's Verdai Lton, not Thank you, Miss Brickus. Any other questions at this time? Okay, I think that's all that we have for Miss Koski. Is is someone coming up to Yes. I'm gonna turn it over to Director McGon. Yes. Thank you again, Miss Kosski. Thank you. Thank you all. [Music] Thank you, Carrie. And good afternoon, Madame Mayor and council members. Trina Mcun, director of utility services. For the record, let's see where we are in this presentation. We're going to have to go backwards moment um and talk about the total proposed fiscal year 24 capital improvement program. Um the improvements Carrie was referring to. See if I can figure out Well, I can't Oh, I have to use the There we go. Um the the projects that Carrie was referring to are these capacity and condition projects here, the 20 and $15 million. Um, in fiscal year 24, we are requesting approximately $38,000 for reuse. That's the American flat project. Uh, $21 million at Tumbarf. Uh, $6.7 million on storm water projects. $6 million on lift station um brisworf and then a half million dollars on maintenance and operations. Um, but before we get into fiscal year 24, similar to Carrie's presentation, I want to talk about what we completed um and what we accomplished in fiscal year 23. Um, so out at Tmorph in fiscal year 23, we've encumbered about $10 million of the 11.9 million adopted CIP budget. Um, and those projects included substantial completion of the trieffluent pump station. That's the pump station that takes effluent from Tamworf out to trick. um the centrifuge dewatering pilot project and the screw pre screw press pilot project. That's a mouthful. Um also out there, those two projects really are for to increase efficiency and lower operational costs at the plant. Um I also wanted to mention since 2021, we've initiated uh 18 of TWR facility master plan top risk ranked projects and completed five of those. This has reduced the risk at the plant. um due for plant process failures, keeps our treatment plant in compliance with our discharge permit, and continues to keep our environment and community safe. Um out at RZWorf, uh we've reached substantial completion of the 4MGD $55 million expansion, um which when coupled with future effluent management solutions will allow for continued growth in the north valleys. And the expansion improves water quality processes such as UV disinfection and filtration that will be used as part of the treatment process for the Onewater Nevada at American Flat Advanced Purified Water Facility. Um we call that the APWF project. So the APWF project as um we've presented here a couple of times will in the near term provide again that effluent reuse solution for the RZWOR 4MGD expansion and in the longer term we'll provide aquifer storage and recovery and ultimately a new portable drinking water source. Um so moving on to that APWF project and where we are on that in in fiscal year 23 we advanced the design or will we're just about to 30% design and um last fall we selected our construction manager at risk or semar contractor for that project. Um early last year and also in the north valleys we completed the Golden Valley lift station um which was replaced due to failures um that we're experiencing at that lift station and then also increasing um capacity. Next we'll talk about uh the dry creek channel restoration project just north of Peekom Lane within the Reno Tahoe um airport. That was an unplanned and urgently needed project to stabilize erosion um within the creek that was threatening the airport security perimeter fence and access road. Um well, I'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute. But um additionally to that project, last year we completed the uh long-awaited Rosewood Wash drainage improvement project phase one. There's two phases to that project. Um the first phase we've received a $500,000 FEMA grant and once phase two is completed we anticipate being able to remove a number of homes from the flood plane. Um one other highlight that's not uh on this slide that I wanted to mention is in fiscal year 23 we added the detention basin inspection program um to our det department and to date we've completed inspections for all the basins in the north valleys and are next moving into other parts of town. Um, this slide I just wanted to touch on real quick. Again, this is the RZWOR $55 million uh dollar for MGD $55 million for MGD expansion. And this is just um some photos I I'd hoped to have a time lapse, but it was a little bit too long to play here. So, I took some snapshots of photos. The upper left photo so shows the beginning of the uh secondary clarifier construction here. And then on the bottom right you can see the finalization of that construction. This is about two years apart. Um in the middle is just a photo of um some of the weather delays that we had on that project due to the very snowy season that we've had. Uh next I will talk about our proposed sewer fund projects um in the utility services department for fiscal year 24. Um out at TMORF we have two design projects and seven construction projects slated for the fiscal year um that were approved by the JCC. Most of the fiscal year 24 projects uh primarily replace obsolete equipment, reduce potential process failures, increase redundancy, um improve operational safety and operational reduce operational costs. And then a number of the uh projects the dewatering facility fluidized bed reactor and digesttor number four membrane also including to the other benefits will increase the plant's capacity. Um at Rizworf um we will cond we will construct a muchneeded expansion of the administration building and new maintenance building along with rehabilitation of two of the older secondary clarifiers um due to their age and poor condition. Um and in fiscal year 24 we plan to continue with the uh advanced purified water project and take that to 100 from 30% to 100% design including environmental permitting and hope to bring to council the Seymar contract for their guaranteed maximum price and begin construction next year. the city's uh lift station assessment report that was completed in 2020. Um our team has worked diligently to complete the rehabilitation of those highest priority stations and after 2024 after fiscal year 24 only a handful of stations remain to be completed. Um each of those uh were recently brought to council and approved by this council for the design. So there's a lot to be celebrated there and moving through um that program. On the stormwater side, um the Chalk Creek stabilization project um has also been long planned for construction in fiscal year 24. Um but the second Dry Creek channel project was also unplanned and urgently needed to stabilize um another section of erosion in the creek that was threatening the airport's security perimeter fencing and access road. So, one of the things to note there is that we typically don't spend $6.7 million in a year on storm water, but we've had a couple of urgent um sort of I wouldn't say emergency, but very urgent repairs that were needed. Um and with that, those are the highlights of our fiscal year 24 capital improvement program. Um that we're working to keep our facilities functioning functioning and our community and environment safe. And I am here for questions. Okay. Um, Miss McGon, thank you for the presentation. I guess I have a couple of questions. Uh, one is, and maybe we'll look first at this the original slide, um, which is number shoot, uh, number 75. So, um, is the proposed 113.6 that includes all the things to the right. Is that correct? Correct. And am I correct that you said that the reuse is at 30% completion? Currently at 30% completion in fiscal year 24. We anticipate we will it'll be near the end of fiscal year 24 that we will reach 100% completion and be looking to um looking for the contractor's guaranteed maximum price. This is not the entire spend that the city of Reno and I'm sure that's where you're going. Yeah, that that was ultimately a question. I was trying to just square the numbers. Yeah. So, the city of Reno's portion of that is um closer to 78 million $78 million, I believe. Um where we're at with that was we originally were looking at two GMPS for the project. Um and so that's how it's still split up. there there is a chance that we will um come in with one GMP for efficiency, but I there's also a chance that that may move to fiscal year 25 just due to the timing and the environmental permitting that we need to go through. Um so right now we're looking at this $38 million um kind of as a placeholder for what we know today. Um, however, I guess I'm giving you a little advanced notice that may change based on how this environmental permitting goes through ND and some of the other um, processes we need to work on. Okay, that makes sense. Um, can I ask, we've had a discussion in the last couple of weeks about um, Forever Plastics uh, in the North Valleys. Um, how does that conversation implicate this decision? Is there something that you want to speak to in in a budgetary sense? Sure. Um I don't mean to correct you, but Forever Chemicals. Yeah, I'm sorry. I I correct. PF PAS. Yeah. So, we're talking about PAS. So, uh what was recently found was PAS within Swan Lake. Um, Swan Lake water is not used for drinking water and the effluent that comes out of uh, RZWorf has been um, tested in the past for the American Flat APWF project and um, trace amounts have been detected. So, we did that for the American Flat project and knowing that um, moving forward uh, in the last couple of weeks we've taken a number of tests soil um, water all over the north valleys. We do not have those results back. But ultimately what we want to know is, you know, what is in the soil at the American Flat. Does it pose any challenges for the project? We don't know that yet. We're in that investigative stage. Um we do feel confident that um based on the irrigation of Swan Lake water up to the American Flat that it has not leeched into the aquifer because of the the um equipment that we have out there that senses how wet the soil is and so it doesn't overwater. So you don't have excessive infiltration into the soil. It would really be kind of a surface um a a surface water I mean a surface soil situation if that if there were an issue yet. We're still investigating that. Okay, makes sense. Let me see if my colleagues have any questions. Miss Eert, I'll start with you. Hi Trina. Thank you. Um so under the reuse category that's where we have the um that's the category where we have the pumping the water to American flats. Correct. Correct. Okay. So I'm concerned that um you know at this point in time we're not pumping water to American flats until we figure out this PAS situation. So, I'm concerned about having this on the budget at this amount. Um, just knowing that we're kind of up in the air on this until we get some more information. Um, and I know that typically we begin pumping water out in April to American Flats and that's not something we're doing at this time. So, I'm a little concerned about um having a set budget amount for that with the uncertainty that we're facing right now. um considering we might have to um take other measures for flood mitigation. Um I know that we're having weekly meetings to discuss issues like that, but considering we might have to take other measures, um I'm just worried about setting a specific budget on that right now given that there's a lot of unknowns that we're going to have to deal with likely this year. Um, so I know we have to come up with some kind of budget, but I think that we might need to have a larger discussion um, specifically about this reuse category. Um, and I'm not sure if we can come back to this at a later meeting. I would like to have an agenda item specifically about the situation at Swan Lake and the pumping out of of um, water um, to American Flats. I also know that um American Flats is not the only um area that uses water out of Swan Lake. Um I believe some goes to a golf course. Um okay. Can I can I make a couple clarifications? Um Swan Lake water is not used for um it there's two separate things going on here. We have the effluent that comes out of the treatment plant that that has been shown with barely trace um levels of PAS coming out of it. That is the water that we use in our recycled system that goes to golf courses and and O'Brien Middle School and uh Mayor's Park, those types of places. And that has the PAS in it. Correct. That does not that has trace elements coming out of the plant. So very Okay. So it's not going into Swan Lake first. It's going directly Exactly. That is going directly from the plant to these uses. Um, we have but we've stopped sending it to American Flats from there. Correct. We have Hang on for just one second. Let's let's back this up for just a second. Um, so we have the plant where we have a current reuse system that goes to the golf courses and parks and things like that that come straight out of the plant. Um, what doesn't go into that system in the wintertime goes into Swan Lake. But let's hold that for a second. Swan Lake. We had been irrigating the American Flat Farm as a flood control measure to reduce the volume in Swan Lake. Um irrigating that we we have not done that at all this year. We we've ceased the idea to operate that way and we're irrigating actually with Tumblr water at this point. So um at this point, no additional water from Swan Lake is going to the American Flat Farm, nor will it. And in the future, the American Flat Farm would be irrigated from the effluent coming out of the plant, similar to the parks and golf course is right now. So, we're bypassing the whole Swan Lake issue. Okay. But we don't, this budget doesn't reflect that future process. Correct. It does. Yes. That this is that future process. We're working include bypassing sending it to Exactly. Yes. Okay. So, that's what I wanted clarification on. And does this include any kind of measure we would need to take um because of flow shave capacity if we needed to use that additional capacity to pump water away from Swan Lake this year in particular because of the high level of snow and runoff and and rain uh pre precipitation that we've had this year. Um will that im impact you know any other areas that we would need to utilize to mitigate floods um you know while we can't pump water to American flats. So currently the effluent we have coming out of RZwarf in the irrigation season which we've started now goes to our irrigation customers. It's not going to Swan Lake. So that's not going to exacerbate uh water levels in Swan Lake. Um the county has spent millions of dollars uh on flood control infrastructure which um you know they have a plan and we can talk to them about that uh to mitigate any of that. This last week we've we've really seen a very minor increase in water surface salivations in Swan and Silver Lake. So we're really at this point getting a lot more evaporation than we are direct um uh runoff into the lake. We're getting evaporation in the lake. We're getting evaporation straight off the snow and we're getting snow melt um um infiltrating into the ground and a whole lot less runoff. And that's due to the time of year that we're in that it's it's been warmer. I know it's cooled down over the last few days, but typically this time of year we aside from having a very large atmospheric river, we just don't have those concerns this year with Swan Lake or Silver Lake. Um both of them have uh plenty of volume in them before they reach flood stages. Okay. Thank you. Okay, Miss Breus. Yeah. Um, I'm gonna repeat a request I had. Sorry, I was coughing, so I have something in my uh, you know, something I'm sucking on to not have a coughing attack. I'm going to repeat my request that in this category reuse be called RZWorf reuse. Okay, it's our largest item up here and the word reuse is very broad and we know we have reuse at Tumworth. We know the county does reuse down in Stimwarf. So, let's call this what it is, which is a commitment, an obligation to Rizworth sewer shed, please. Okay, I don't mind in the fence, out of the fence, whatever. now to this acute situation of, you know, having a flood control project to relieve Swan Lake that we're now using drinking water to meet our obligations to a farmer. You know, that's like, you know, backwards, right? We stood it up, got this farmer, the land, got a contract with a farmer to use water that was effluent which we wanted out of that basin. And now what are we doing? We're are we paying for Tamwa's the water service from Tamwa? Who's paying for it? We are paying for it at a reduced. Okay. So, we're paying for drinking water from Tamwa to farm and we're not drawing down Swan Lake with the 1 million one MGD that John Flandsburg stood up here on January 22nd. And I went back and watched the video and said, "What's different from 2017 2018? It's that we can pull one MGD off and do the farm." Well, that has changed. So, I really want to know how we're compensating for that because it seems to me since January 22nd and now if you ain't pulling one MGD up to farm, what are you doing and how much are you going to flood that area? You just made some explanation, but I really want to understand it in the context of that 1 MGD. I am somewhat at the point with Miss Eert what I interpreted her to say which is I don't want to give you $38 million. I want a plan to understand because you have wrinkle after wrinkle after wrinkle. Are we going to do a $90 million reservoir? Are we going to sell send water to the tribes now? You know, and and it's always also well we've got tough permitting. We'll go through permitting. That's going to be a tough landscape for you. And I really want a GAT chart that shows exactly where you're going and if this scenario doesn't work, that scenario. And to me, that's where council needs to control this budget on this issue because we're looking pretty bad right now. When January 22nd, we said we were sending up a MGD to relieve Swan Lake. And right now, what are we doing? We're buying drinking water and sending it up there, which I'm sure is not cheap. But let me just one last thing is, you know, I I I think we're already stranded on in the fence. I don't think you really have a plan to get us to the outside of the fence. I think that permitting from everything I hear of Chamwa is four, five years off. And I think your Seymar is going to get your Seymar option is going to get very stale because no Seymar is going to guarantee a price that's sitting out there for two or three years while you're doing ND permitting and you know there's federal rulem making on POS. So I think we pull this back and we just say put the brakes on. We're going to keep an eye on it very closely here because I'm I'm a little unhappy that I heard from the GM at Tamwa that they were sending drinking water up to your farming thing probably, you know, in early February. And I didn't hear about this POS issue issue until last week from this side of the house over here. Okay, Miss Bre, your time is up. Miss Mcun, can I bottom line is I don't want to commit to this 38 million. I understand, Miss Breus, you haven't committed to any of the money along the way, so I understand why you wouldn't continue to commit to it. Miss Breus, if I want to recognize you, I will. I want to give Miss Magun the opportunity to respond. I think there were questions in there. I I mean, I tried to sus them out and so I wanted to give you the opportunity as the professional in the room to respond. So help us to understand kind of some of the competing concerns that we have as council members because we're new to understanding the implications of these forever chemicals having been discovered. So just give us some uh direction, some advice, some response. Sure. Okay. Thank you. Um so one item um we have not been irrigating since February. They just started irrigating last week. So there was no delay in um that situation. when we talk about PAS um this is really I mean we learned about this a a number of weeks ago right so we are doing everything we can we are scrambling to figure out what does it mean um we're we're out there getting we've we've obtained additional samples to verify um to be clear the study that came out was one sample in Swan Lake which which is not a study it's one sample we did not know if it was sampled at a verified lab we did not know um you know how it was sampled a whole bunch of information so we immediately set to go out and get our own samples and verify the information that that you know was presented at a conference and surprised us all. By the way, um so we're in the process of that. Unfortunately, because of the new EPA drinking water rules, um all the labs are backed up. We won't have that information for four to six weeks. As soon as we have that information, we will work together to understand what that means. Uh I think ultimately the main concern with the American Flat Farm is if there is any contamination of the soil right now. That's one investigation we're looking at. We don't anticipate it to be uh extensive or widespread, but we have to see what those results are. That would dictate, you know, what we do next on the farm to make sure that the the the plan that we have in place to move forward with that project um is still viable, which I believe it will be viable. There just may be another step in there to mitigate that uh situation. So, we are still moving forward with ND with permitting. We do have a plan. We have a Gant chart. We have a regulatory roadmap. Um, we have all of these things that are in place that we've been working extensively with the Seymar contractor so they're aware of where we are with ND with our regional with our partner TAMWA. Um, all those things are in place and moving forward. Um, we do we have a public outreach plan that is very extensive. We have um we've got a lot of things in place quite honestly that we're working towards to make sure that this stays on track. Um, you know, I think that the PAS issue could be a little bump in the road, but we're going to have to figure out the extent of that situation. Well, I think when we were in Monterey and we were looking at the uh different water treatment facilities, the topic of PAS came up and there were some conversations about the, you know, just added scrutiny that is required and also the fact that we have to be able to figure out treatment methods because water is a not an infinite resource and and we're trying whatever way we can to come up with ways to have a future that is sustainable. So, it's an element of sustainability that they were very cautious to caution us about. And I think you and I had that same conversation on the bus. But it's just one of those things where none of us anticipated it, but we'll work through it as science and fact dictate. And and processes do exist to remove PAS um components from the water. So even if the EPA comes back and they have a more stringent requirement than the effluent we have coming out of the treatment plant, there is a process we add to our treatment train to remove that pads from that treatment train. Well, I think they were already doing that at the Monterey facility. There were like 14 steps and maybe number 12 was an element of removing that because they were a bit ahead of the EPA's uh process. So I think it's important that you know we'll continue to trust the science of it and but knowing what it is is an important component of that. So I appreciate uh your candid response because it's again it is budget related but it's a broader conversation and Miss Eert is right. We're going to have to have more conversations about it. Okay. Let me see if anyone else has any comments. Miss Eert, I have another question and we might not have the answer to this so I'm I'm sorry. Um but do we have any idea as to what the cost would be for additional um filtration of the water to remove PAS because that's something that we should definitely include in this budget. Like we might not know yet what the EPA uh levels are, you know, acceptable, but um if potentially we need to have a new filtration process, do we have any idea what that would cost? Um and and not just for North Valleys. is I mean if this ends up being uh an entire city of Reno issue um do we know potentially what that would cost to add this filtration system to the entire city of Reno? I do not. I can certainly um inquire with Toma to see if they have an idea of what that would cost. Okay. I think that's something we absolutely need to have at least a ballpark on before we commit to any kind of sewer um reuse budget. Any other questions from council? Miss Breus? Yeah, I'm just going to summarize what I understand at this point, which is that the one MGD that on January 22nd was so critical to help us make it through. you know, where we're at with hookups and the shave is no longer a factor because I'm not hearing any concern that we need to pull back the commitment that the council gave to the shave. So, I'm really still wondering why January 22nd, one MGD of farm water going up was so critical and help us in this big year, but it's not an issue now. So that's what I understand and you know I'm not going to ask you for a response because it's not budget but what I understand is January 22nd the fundamentals of that because I don't see an agenda item to say whoa we're going too far in the shave you know it has changed but something else that changed here in your budgetary discussion that's where I want to focus is you mentioned maybe we'll just open up RZworth with one more MGD to a instead of the 2 MGD you you you did say that I I I thought I heard you say something along the lines like, "Well, we might just open it up with just an added of 1 MGD rather than going to the full 4 MGD." Mr. Hull, uh, can I invite you into the conversation? Miss Breus has already indicated that this matter is not on the agenda. So, I want to make sure that we're not violating the open meeting law by proceeding with this line of inquiry. Well, I think we are talking about the budget with respect to how much money we're going to put into Rizworf. And I think that question relates to, you know, that budget item. So, you know, obviously I think we want to stay on the agenda. So, I think we once we finish with this line of questioning, I think we can move on. Yeah. Thank you. You know, I that's that's trying to cut me down legally and I I it's noted, you know, but I thought you did you don't recall earlier you said that we might just open up Rizworth with one MGD rather than going to the full four or we would phase it up. I I did not say that. Okay. Okay. So, you feel we will be able to take advantage of the design of the 4 MGD um with this 38 million once we go through. You know, you said the the I the regulatory roadmap that you have. Okay. I thought I apologize or I don't apologize. I misheard. I thought you were talking about an incremental ramp up to the 4 MGD of just bringing on one MGD to begin with. Okay. Thank you. Hey, I don't believe there are any other comments from council. Okay. Miss Mcun, thank you so much for the presentation. Excellent as always. Appreciate your time. Miss Van Beern, I think we just have a couple of more sections to go. Where are we today? We just have one more slide here. Vicky Van Beern, director of finance for the record. Last one to finish this up and it's just a budget timeline to let you know what the next steps are. So, we had our study session in March. Um, I presented this to the that presentation to the FAB which was uh the budget at the baseline that council got in March and then the tenative document was submitted to the state. based on the recommendations from the city manager's office which you're seeing here and then we're obviously here today with this bud budget study session. We'll go back to FAB on May 11th to present this to them as well. And then the budget adoption is scheduled for May 24th. So that would be our next step after all of the um comments from today are incorporated um and looked at as well. and then the final budget goes to the state on uh June 1st. So just wanted to give you an idea of the next steps and this the end of this presentation that I have for you today and then we would go into um RDA. Are there any questions about the timeline? Okay perfect. All right, Madame Mayor, we're going to go ahead and open the redevelopment agency board. So, I will go I will call roll. Council member Breis Der here. Martinez. Eert here. Taylor here. Reese here. Shivy. Madame Mayor, you do have a quorum of the redevelopment agency board. Opening item E2, public comment for RD uh redevelopment agency board. We have none. So, we're moving on to item E3, approval of the agenda to approve. Second. I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. All right. We're going to go ahead and open item E4, which is presentation. Are you laughing at me? from Vicky Van Beerren. Thank you. A lifesaver in my mouth. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. What did you say? Sorry. Okay. Good afternoon again, Madame Mayor and council members. Um we are going to discuss redevelopment agency budget at this time. Uh there are two redevelopment agencies. Uh RDA1 is in the downtown area and RDA2 as you can see from the map is the purple area which is located in seven different uh places around the city. Redevelopment agency 1 was established in 1983 and it expires in 2043. It includes the downtown area in the parking garage on Sierra Street. And so that's that parking garage that is on the corner of First Street and Sierra next to Silver Peak Restaurant. That parking garage is managed by collers and the parking garage revenues are pledged to debt. So any excess of the revenues over the expenditures we have to transfer to debt. Um a fixed amount of motor vehicle privilege tax was given to RDA1 when it was established and it continues at the exact same dollar amount until this redevelopment area expires. The expenses in the account are for the repairs and maintenance of the garage and there is uh there are bonds outstanding uh on this to for various projects that were done and um the bonds completely mature in 2027. So when you look at there's two different uh funds for this. The general fund and the debt fund for redevelopment agency one you see the motor vehicle privilege tax runs $128,000 annually and then parking garage rent typic in a typical rent year runs between $8 and $900,000 a year. um miscellaneous and outside uh services to do repairs and such on the garage can range anywhere from uh 400 to $800,000 a year annually. And then um we do have a debt service fund. That's pretty much all that's in RDA1 general fund. Give you an idea of the RDA1 general fund and how those revenues have trended over the years. Um you can see that uh 23 revenues have really uh gone up and that was because of that booking of revenues that should have been booked back to fiscal year 22. So that column should have been a lot higher but you can see that um that one's been pretty consistent as we go along. When you look at the debt that is outstanding on RDA1, one of those pays off this current fiscal year and the other two bonds that are outstanding pay off in 2027. So, we have about $10 million remaining to pay on this debt in RDA1. When you look at the debt fund for it, um the principal and the interest runs about $3 million a year in here. We did have to loan money from RDA2 to RDA1 per council's direction in fiscal year 22 to keep the um to keep the ending ending fund balance up in here until those bonds pay off. I do not anticipate that we will need to loan any other funding in here because as you can see the advalorum taxes or the property taxes have really increased from 1.6 million in fiscal year 21 and we're projecting to be up to 2.6 seven in fiscal year 24. So, it's really coming online. I did want to give you a graph that we haven't shown you before, and this one shows um RDA1 debt fund. And this graph is kind of interesting to me because you can see in fiscal year 17, we sold some properties. We actually sold the properties around the um movie theater area. And so, that's why you see that big green bar for revenues because we sold properties. But then as we go forward, fiscal year 18 was the last year that we had an interlocal agreement to keep RDA1 whole. And so that agreement expired. And so when you go to 19, you'll see the small little bar of revenues. That's actually how much revenues were coming in at that point without that agreement available. So you'll see the the line of the ending fund balance up at the top. it declines because we were eating into that to pay the debt service all along until we got to the point where we decided that we you needed to uh do something and council um made the decision that we could go ahead and loan money from RDA2 to RDA1 to make sure that we could finish out these bonds, pay them off and then RDA1 can pay back RDA2. But it it it's a really good visual representation as to what happened into RDA1. In RDA2, it was established in 2005 and it expires in 2035. Again, it's seven different areas. Has Cabelas, the baseball district, Parklane Mall area. The property taxes in here fully cover the baseball agreement, which is $1 million a year until the end of that, which is in uh 2043. We have a small other little debt in here which is a small bond for Cabela's and it expires in 2035. Proposed for this budget as council um had conversations on this in our March workshops are two additional positions to be paid out of RDA2. It's a revenue compliance officer and a management analyst to assist with the plans and programs for going forward. what this RDA area can be used for and what that plan is going to look like. And so in RDA2 general fund, um it's really come online as well. The funds coming from property taxes have doubled from 21 to 23. So you see we had $2.5 million in property taxes in 21 and we're estimating in 23 5.4. So it's doubled in just two years. For next year, we're estimating almost 5.9 a little bit over $5.9 million for property taxes. In here, you'll see salary and benefits in here now estimated for next year based on those positions. The baseball agreement at a million dollars. That million dollars continues until 2043 when that agreement ends. Um, and then you see also the loan from RDA2 to RDA1 that occurred in fiscal year 22. The big new item that's on here from uh when we met in March is in other expenses. There's a $10 million line item there. That's money that would be available for new projects going forward based on the plan that council determines at some point for next year. May not all be used. May some of it be used. Um, I built in uh this 10 million as a placeholder for council so that you can determine what projects um going forward you would like to do. When you look at RDA2 general fund, the revenues, they've really increased from fiscal year 18 up to fiscal year 24. And the main reason we have that $10 million there now is because we have not really done any projects with the money. So, it has built up. So there is a buildup of funding in this particular project area and the Cabela's bonds pay off in 2035. That's the only outstanding debt and the current balance is around $500,000 in RDA2. And this is RDA2's debt fund. The only thing in there is that Cabela's debt and we just pull over enough property tax to cover that within this debt fund. Uh this is a look at the debt fund and how it's gone forward. The there was a loan in here for a fire station land that ended in fiscal year 18. And so when that ended, the only thing remaining is that small Cabela's debt. When you look at redevelopment agency 1 and agency 2 tax increment projections, this gives you an idea on an annual basis of how much property tax we anticipate going forward. This is based on a study that was done back in 2019 and that was based at the time on what known developments we knew in the areas. We're currently in the process of getting that updated because obviously we've had a lot more development in the areas. But um this particular one is just based on that study and we will have that updated this year for council so that as you move forward to make plans for the RDA2 area which does have some funding available to do some projects uh you will have more current information on that. But there's at least 10 million if not a little more in there for projects to for council to look at. So, that concludes my presentation on RDA and I'm glad to answer any questions. Okay, Counciloman Buckets, go ahead. Yeah, I um we need to redo the redevelopment area plans. Okay. And I don't see that on I see adding bodies. I see $10 million for projects, but we have to do the redevelopment area plans. I don't know who's ever read the redevelopment area plans. I don't know who's ever read the amendments to them. I know I have. and they're out of date. They're non-compliant. Um I can't believe that the folks who pay the RDA1 who got, you know, hit to to have their tax money go for more RDA RDA um two years ago when we extended the life out to 45 years. Um did not come forward and say we want to see the plan because they live in the district. they have to have consultation with them with the district and we didn't do it and I am going to be very specific that we need to redo the redevelopment area one plan and the redevelopment area 2 plan before we start tapping any of this tiff and it's it's going to be legally required um and we've got to get there. So I'm disappointed that I don't see that on I don't see a contract to redo the redevelopment area plans. So why is that not on there? And I I don't understand what a revenue compliance officer is. Okay. City manager. Yeah. Yeah. So I think we did talk about in the first iteration of these presentations how we were going to spend money to build out um both a feasibility analysis and an implementation plan for all the many plans we have on the shelf in the redevelopment areas. And I believe that suffices to modernize and make uh more real um the redevelopment plan and and provides a a roadmap to success for the redevelopment agency. It's something we talked about. It's the year's work plan for that function. Yeah. But it's it's having consultants do work without any public engagement and it needs to happen. There are a lot of uses for which redevelopment tip can go forward. If we're not having those conversations with our public and sitting $10 million and not having a roadmap, you know, the affordable housing folks need to come out, the folks who um you know, the interest groups that aren't getting that money into the general fund for police, fire, they you know, we need to look look at it from that perspective. Um, we need to redo the RDA plans completely and it's going to be very problematic if we don't in my view. But what is this revenue compliance officer? I've never seen that in a redevelopment agency budget and I've worked on redevelopment work since the early 90s. Thank you. Hi, Eric Edelstein, assistant city manager. Thank you for the question. So, the the revenue compliance officer is going to be an employee that will still uh function in the business license department, but it's going to be focused on proactive compliance uh and revenue within the the RDA2 space. So, it's going to be uh think of it more as a service uh serviceoriented compliance officer to help with the thousandish businesses um that we currently have registered in the RDA2 space. Yeah. Um, you know, that sounds like a great thing, but it's something that maybe, you know, the public should have, you know, an understanding of that it's in the plan and we're going to use the TIFF resources for something like that. If it's a business assistance or a business onbuds person sort of thing, I I don't object. I'm just saying you need to have it back to your plan. And I don't see that in the RDA2 plan as it is. and it it actually is completely different than what I thought it was from the name. So, we need to go out and redo the redevelopment agency plans. And if the council's not doing that, you know, and and hasn't looked at it's 279, right? 279 and looked at the steps to do the plans in a minute. You know, you might want to because there's some pretty tough standards to to meet in terms of um you know, honoring what we're doing with taking this money off the table for other uses. It hasn't been an issue because there hasn't been money, but now that there is, we need to redo the RDA plans. All right. Any other questions? Councilwoman Door, go ahead. Yeah. Well, let me ask um so I think I want to ask Eric. So, Eric, are you planning to update the plan? I mean, um let me give you an example. Flooding. So, they're required to have a plan that's adopted by their board and when um they change it, they need to have a amended plan adopted by their board. And that's what they work under. It doesn't have to be super specific. Nobody says, you know, the micro level it has to go to, but you have to have a general plan. And so that's called for by um NRS 377B. Your your plan is called by a different section of NRS. So um since our plan is very old, I mean it do are you started thinking about that? Yes, they thank you for the question. Yes, an implementation strategy plan, whatever we may be call it, that is part of the part of this next year's process. Perfect. Um we're having financial analyses done now. Public outreach is started informally but we will do a more robust you know public listening session um outreach throughout uh and uh and then we're going to work to build the tools to have that strategy built to bring back to you so that we can have some speed and certainty to develop projects in the future. Yeah, I think the plan has to make sure that all the boundaries are identified correctly um for the different ones. It might explain the ability to use the increment from one on the other. That would be good information for anybody wanting to pick up the plan. And then just uh what are some, you know, specific or general or specific kind of projects that could be considered or that are being planned? I mean, that's what you'd want. AB: Absolutely. Yes. Thank you. Can I make one more point? Go ahead. Councilwoman Taylor, go ahead. Oh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh Vicki, I have a quick question about Sorry, Eric. Slide 17. What's going on with in 203536 with the blue line? What What's happening there? Thank you for that question. It's when the baseball agreement goes out until 2043. It's currently being paid out of RDA2, which is that blue line. When RDA2 ends, um, RDA1 will pick up that debt and start paying it in 2036. So, the current bonds in RDA1 pay off in 27. So, then you see that blue guy go to the bottom. They won't have debt again. And then RDA1 would pick up that debt when RDA2 ends and continue that until uh that baseball agreement ends. Great. Thank you. Makes sense. Yeah. Madame Mayor, councilwoman breakfast. Yeah. So, what is this $10 million that is projected to kick off from RDA2 next year? It's $10 million that is not going to the school district for their share of property tax. It's $10 million that's not going to our general fund for parks, police, fire. It's not $10 million a chunk that's not even going to Washa County to run, you know, animal services or um, you know, the libraries. Okay. So, it is all of the community's money that is going into this little pot. And this little pot cannot come through an implementation strategy and analyst work and informal conversations we're having with stakeholders. This money needs to be a communitywide discussion because the community is giving up money that would go to other purposes and it needs to happen. And the more it is closed door, the more it is likely that those conversations are with people who are in the RDA and they want the money to go into their pockets. And that's a very likely situation. We've seen that come forward before. Hold on one second. Um, you're past your time. Will you just reiterate, Eric, what you just said because nothing is closed door. I want to make sure that it's on the record. Will you please reiterate that? Well, uh Eric Edelstein, assistant city manager for the record. No, absolutely nothing is is being closed door. We are doing the pre-work. We are preparing the timelines, the strategies, and it will take time. Um just about at my fourmonth um break, so I almost figured out how to get in the building each day. Uh and so we are we are working uh we're we're working to build that strategy which will be very public which will be very open um which is the only way we know how to do things and um we will bring that plan um back to be adopted before we take projects. I'm excited to see it. I just want to make sure that that's on the record because that's not what's happening and it's gets a plan to amend the plan. Thank you. All right. Thank you Councilwoman Brackus. So wonderful. Go ahead. Thank you so much, Madam Chair. Council Martinez, I do see that there was a it looks like a payment from RDA1 and FY2122 for that debt. Is that paid off from RDA1 to RDA2 or are there any other payments going from RDA1 to two? RDA2 made a loan to RDA1 in fiscal year 22. Yes. And once these bonds pay off in RDA1 in 2027, and they may have some additional capacity depending on how much property tax comes in to actually start paying it off next year, which I'm kind of anticipating. And so they would pay back that debt to RDA2, that 1.2 million. It actually is an agreement that came before council and it incurs 2% interest rate. They're paying on it as well. Okay. And just to get maybe some clarification, are there similar to other funding sources limitations on that $10 million or can you provide some clarity with what can happen with those funds? Yes, there there are very specific limitations on that and I would defer that to Eric on answering that because that that's why the plan is needed. Yeah, sure. Again, Eric Edelstein for the record. Um, there are very there are specifics of of how the RDA can be used. Um I don't have those slides exactly prepared but I c I can send from it was uh we talked about it briefly in the last uh the March 29th meeting. Um the RDA has um fewer limitations than than city government. You know it is a separate agency. Um but uh so but those investment activities are are specified and ultimately approved by this body uh prior to prior to being spent. Yeah. If you could just get those to me or or anyone else wants them please. I'd appreciate that. Abs. I'd be happy to recirculate. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Eric. Madame Mayor, can I just say one last thing? You know, we really need a primer. We open and close this budget, this RDA, just to approve minutes and don't have any conversation. And I've held off, held off, held off wanting to have an item. But I would like an item even if it's a primmer because I'll tell you another thing. I left that March meeting and one thing I thought about is oh, no one mentioned that everything that gets assistant goes prevailing wage in the RDA. Correct. Absolutely correct. Do you know the rule off the top of your head? No, I was going to say I don't know the rule off the top of my head. All right. I don't know the rule off the top of my head either. Uh with respect to 279. Well, it's if we incentivize construction above a particular amount, and I think that amount is 200, but I'm not certain if the rule is different in the redevelopment space. And so I'm sort of looking over there and hoping someone can help me there. But in general, it's if we incentivize above a particular amount of money. Um, but I think there is some nuance in the redevelopment space. I'm sorry, I missed the question. When do redevelopment sponsored projects, if ever, kick over into the prevailing wage space? Oh, um, pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah. It's um 279500 and it's it's it's all I'm asking for right now is we get the consultants on to have the plan to amend the plans and at each of the next RDA meetings we do 15 minutes increments, 20 minute increments of this is RDA 101. This is RDA 101. Even starting with the maps of where the RDA areas are. Um we really it's going to be an issue. It's not a bad thing to have, but it needs to be very um it's complex and it needs to be very open. The public also needs to understand it and the money involved, too. So, I don't know if there's an request for next agenda items, but I'm requesting an update on RDA 101 on our next redevelopment agency board. Thank you. All right. Any further questions? send it to you, madam cler. Thank you, Madam Mayor. We're going to go ahead and close out redevelopment agency board. So, I'm just looking for a motion to adjurnn. All right. So moved. Second. I have a motion from Vice Mayor Reese, a second from Councilwoman Dur. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Thank you. So, we're going to go back to our regular agenda. So, we're on closing public comment. Um, same statement as before. If you are on Zoom and would like to make public comment, please raise your hand. At this time, we do have one public commenter who has been patiently waiting in the audience with um looks like a family member. Um Hillary is here to speak on closing public comment. Okay. Welcome. Thank you. My name is Hillary. This is the first time that I've done this. Hi, Hillary. A lot of Hillary politicians, how are you? I'd love to be a politician, but I'm really new at this, so forgive me. No, good. It's great that you're here. Um, so my story is is I've been homeless for a year. Like I have no idea if you guys have any idea or clue as to what is going on out there. It is erroneous. Um, we have a serious issue um with homelessness. Like Caris campus is at full capacity at any given moment. I've been there for a year. The capacity is at 600. Um, they are no longer accepting women because the original grant was for a men's shelter. And so it puts us in a really bad disposition. Um we've got the women's shelter. Um but that's that's that's challenging because it's it's pretty far out. You've got one bus system that comes, it doesn't it barely comes. Um it it is just counterproductive. It's counterproductive for for uh transportation, getting to a job, so on and so forth. Um so I personally, okay, so for this year, they raised my rent by $500, so on and so forth. Um, I was a business owner um before um COVID. I have a son. I'm a single mom and so I I just I you know I've been through like every single American scenario, you know, so um there are things that psychologically I understand and I know we need to evolve like we need to evolve and in our homeless God it's so bad. Okay. So the issue is is that okay so I have only known three people. I'm from Reno. I've been here since 90 95. I think that was like the year before the the flood. Um I've been here since 95. And um I have only known about three people at Caris campus that are from Reno. So that means that everybody is getting is coming here and they're they're coming here and then they're like it's just like genification inside the freaking shelter if that makes sense. like like and so we're being pushed out in all like we're just like being shoved and then on top of that they're trying to make homelessness illegal, right? So so that's counterproductive. Like how are you going to make homelessness where do we go? There's no placement for us and and that poses a big liability too. Um so we have a serious problem. We have a really big problem. Like I've been I've been living on the railroad tracks and I can say honestly for the last year um living on the railroad tracks in a tent is the most stable I've been because I have my own space. So I kind of I know I understand what works and doesn't work. Like um gosh there's so I have so much trauma in the last year. I mean it I've been hospitalized eight times. I've been jumped. Um I've been poisoned. I mean that I've been chastised abused by by by both ends, you know, both communities. Um, and and and everybody sits in my shoes as far as the homeland. It's just growing. Um, and I I know I don't know any I don't know a single person who hasn't been extremely traumatized by this experience in the last year. So, I've been like in a part of therapy since I was like nine. So, this is like the good part of this is is I'm offering some solutions to the issue. And I actually think that like we could evolve But like it's going to take like it's going to take like like like some something that probably has never been done before but kind of has. So I've been thinking a lot about this and I think that it would be a really good solution to hear me out. I know this is like going to sound like a lot. Okay. So they do this in California and there's a couple other places throughout the United States where it's it's like a safe they call it safe camp but it's not it's not like the same thing as in car's campus. So what I'm proposing is that so we I wanna like grow alalfa okay like I'm such a hippie but okay so I want to offer agriculture like with okay so why do we have cares campus and we're not growing crop like we should be growing crop for the community like this is crazy like people are just sitting there and they don't know what they're doing they're just like you know I'm just like oh these people need direction sorry I think to your point it's it's complex like size doesn't fit all for everyone that right that experiences homelessness. So here, let me just tell you. So because I I think it's very very valuable, especially coming from someone that has experienced homelessness, you you have some knowledge that most people probably don't have that can make a difference. We have something um called the CHAB and I think it would be really good for you to go and work with them because there are working groups, okay? But they need to hear what the challenges are. And so I have I've like written all of it. I've like tried. So like therapy because remember the majority now is over on the county side. So it's all and so that's the other piece of it. That makes sense. There's the county side, then there's Sparks, and then there's Reno. But the majority of all of the inner workings are coming from the county, right? And but I do think um quite honestly what you have to say is incredibly incredibly valuable. Can I ask you one question? Yeah. Who took care of your son? My mom is this mom? Yes. Hi mom. You must be very proud of your daughter. I know. Are you proud of your daughter? And your son is Who's your son? This is Jasper. Jasper. Nice to meet you. You look like a future mayor. I know. I bet we can find some cake back here for you. What do you think about that? Um so so Hillary, what I'm going to do is I'm going to have I'm a little scared. Like, don't be scared. Listen, we really want you to be a part of the process because anyone that um, especially you that comes from a position of experiencing it firsthand and knowing the trauma and seeing everything that you've been through, like those are very, very important aspects of coming to solutions because not not one size fits all. as you know, some people in the shelter are coming from completely different spaces and and and so that's why I think it's so challenging when we build shelters just for one population and that's not the way it should be because everyone's got their traumatiz and and so really at our core like we have to look at the trauma like we have to heal. We have to get counselors in there. we have to work on harm reduction like and so within like a three-month period like I have it all written out and I think it could work like I was in recovery for 5 years like so there's a lot of stuff I do understand and like yeah I you know and yeah I mean I have a lot of solutions I think that it would be really really helpful to have you know structure people need structure if they don't have structure it's chaotic we're univilized we're univilized union right now like it is a third world country out there right now and so then we're getting kicked off the railroad tracks on Tuesday and we have nowhere to go. Okay. So, um, and we're actually civilized out there. Jackie is right here and I want you to meet with Jackie so you can get involved and be at the table, be at the working groups. It's really valuable to hear what what you think can help. Yeah. Um, and so honestly, that's where we get the best outcomes, okay? Is literally working with people that have experienced absolutely that. So, Jackie is going to help you, okay? and you know let's get you looped in and let's get you busy. Now it sounds like you are no longer homeless. I am homeless still but I have a voucher. I just need to get working. That's another that's a huge part of the I've been applying to every job and so it seems like there's a gap, right? And so so I haven't worked in three years because co you know and then I've been homeless for a year. So because of that I seem like a liability and I could see why. I can see why. like people don't want to hire someone straight off of Compton Streets. You know what I mean? Like it is scary I think for on both parties. And so that's why I also want to address that and and and there's like I really So guess what? So Jackie is also going to tell you I would love to see about Reno Works. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think you would be an amazing candidate for Reno. I want to be in in this like I like being in I think you're going to like how well we have a program that we think is um okay we think is very beneficial and by the end of it then you um then you get offered a job and a lot of times it's tied with housing so I think you would absolutely benefit from it and so Jasper lives with mom yeah right now and then when I get the housing I I finally got the section 8 voucher So, it's like a three-year waiting period, but that's okay. I just got it, so I just have to get it. Don't let that go. And that's another thing Jackie can help you with. So, you came to the right place, Hillary. I know. Well, I can't settle for anything less. So, all right, honey. Thank you for Thank you. We'll follow back up with you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, Madam Clerk. Anyone else? We will move over Art Rangel via Zoom. Okay. Hi, Art. Okay. Oh, sorry. I I just got Can you hear me now? We can. Thank you. Okay. Uh, for the record, Art Rangel, 255 North Sierra Street. Uh it's in the montage and the montage as you know was downtown and therefore in the RDA1 um um area redevelopment area. Um as someone who has spent decades um in the redevelopment world, I know how complicated it can be uh for not only elected officials but primarily for the public. One thing I'd like to do and recommend for Eric as he starts to go out and seek input from stakeholders is that he come to our uh montage um speakers forum. Um as some of you know uh the montage has a speakers forum forum and we invite other residents from highrises to come in and get educated about whatever the topics are. Uh, and as much as uh we have more and more residents in the downtown area, I think it would be extremely beneficial uh just to if Eric can come or someone else if need be just to come speak to us and kind of let us know what this is all about because most of us don't know. I'd like to get a hope I can get a commitment to that and I can make since I'm on the committee that does that. uh I'll make sure that uh you have a time just uh let let me know or um I can get in touch however you can get in touch with me please do so thank you thanks Art we'll get Mr. Edelstein to reach out to you thank you okay madame clerk no additional public comments at this time vice mayor we have no additional public comments at this time so we're just looking for a motion to adjurnn uh so moved second I have a motion by council member Derer a second by Mr. Martinez. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. We're ajourned.