All right. Good morning, everyone. Madame Clerk, good morning, Madame Mayor. Are you Are you set? We are all ready. Okay. Um, I just wanted to before we start Wednesday, July 30th council meeting, um, I would ask everyone to please, um, join us in a moment of silence. Um, Monday was incredibly heartbreaking and senseless. And, um, I just want, you know, the victims and the families to know that we are thinking of them here at the city of Reno. And um like I try to remind a lot of people that our lives are incredibly fragile and to reach out to each other more, love each other more, be kind to each other a little bit more. Um so please join us in a moment of silence. All right. Thanks so much. Um, we are going to start off with the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Torres, are you in the house this morning? Good. Good morning. I would love for you to lead us in the pledge. Nice job. Nice job. All right, Madam Clerk. I'm going to send it to you for roll call. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Calling a roll for Wednesday, July 30th. Vice Mayor Taylor. Council member Der here. Council member Martinez. Council member Eert, absent at this time. Council member Reese, Council Member Anderson, Mayor Shivy here. Mayor Shivy, you do have a quorum of the Reno City Council. Okay. Thank you so much. We are going to start with a very special proclamation um for Mr. Torres. I believe Councilwoman Taylor is going to be reading the proclamation. I would love for you to come up here and tell us what you have been doing because I think it's remarkable. I am hearing amazing things, but you are bringing a community together when in times when we need it the most. And I think it's one of the best things you can do for your mental health and for arts and culture in a city. And we are here to honor you today and say thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Tell tell us a little bit for those that don't know what you've been doing. No worries. My name is Andre Torres. I am a 20-year veteran of the United States Marine Corps. Um I and my entire family have put together an event called Dancing on the River. This is our second year. And what we did was it started with an idea of bringing families together in a place that is normally not used. We started in the small West Street Plaza last year. We were able to bring almost 4,000 people together in a completely free event. This year we're going to hit 10,000 people. That's incredible. And the whole premise started where I wanted to learn how to dance. Um but it was difficult because I'd have to get babysitters, the whole shebang. So instead of complaining, let's be the change in our community. So we hire in dance instructors, DJs. We bring together the entire community to be able to come together with the language of dance. Oh my gosh, I love it. I love it. I am hearing rave reviews and I'm hearing the um turnout has been phenomenal. Yes, ma'am. Uh thank you so much. Um you should run for office. You'd be great one day. Um by the way, thank you for your service. Thank you. All right, Councilwoman Taylor. And Madame Mayor, just for the record, um, Council Member Eward is present online. It's truly an honor to be here to recognize you, Andreas. Um, I I love the way that you've transformed Westbrook and you brought families down and to see your mom and your family here. It's really fantastic. Uh, that space transformed with Dancing by the River. And it's because of you and your energy. And like you said, be the change. Be the change. So, I'm super excited on behalf of the city of Reno to um read this proclamation. Whereas uh the founder of High Sierra Entertainment, Andreas Torres, created Dancing on the River, a free public cultural event designed to celebrate diversity, strengthen community ties, and provide accessible opportunities for dance, music, and cultural exchange in the heart of downtown Reno. And whereas Dancing on the River is held regularly at City Plaza and has become a cherished tradition for families and residents of all backgrounds, featuring live performances, inclusive dance instruction, local food vendors, and a joyful, welcoming atmosphere that fosters social connection and cultural pride. And whereas the event has contributed meaningfully meaningfully to the revitalization of downtown Reno by supporting small businesses, spotlighting local talent, and creating shared public experiences that promotes a sense of belonging and civic identity. And whereas the success of Dancing on the River is a testament to Andres Torres leadership, his vision for inclusive community building and his dedication to enriching the cultural fabric of Reno for current and future generations. Now there therefore I Kathleen Taylor on behalf of Mir Shivi and the city of Reno hereby declare July 30th as Andreas Taus Day. come up here. Want to bring your family up? Please. Come on. Let's do it. Come on. I love it. Nice. Thank you so much. You're excited. We're excited. All right. This is the entire dance team. Ready? One, two, three. Thank you. California actually. the public how they can participate in your events. When is the next event? Uh where all that good stuff. So, anyone that wants to come out and join you can. Thank you, ma'am. are the last dancing on the river for this year is this Saturday right across the street at City Plaza from 6 6:00 p p.m. to 10 p.m. It is completely free. It will continue to be free. Um we're actually planning for next year of how we can bring together our community. It's uh this vision has morphed from where I became a DJ just to help my local VFW to bring in money and then it became I spoke with the city the special events team and I said I have an idea and they came to me and said let's see how we can make it happen. So I'm very thankful to everybody at the city of Reno. Thank you so much. That's so incredible. Well, thank you for what you are doing and your service. Thank you so much. Thank you ma'am. Thank you. All right, Madame Mayor. Our first item today is opening public comment. Members of the public may hear, observe, and provide public comment virtually by registering through the following link, which can be found on reno.gov/meings. https colon slash slashl i n ks period ren o period go ov slash c o n c i l07-30. It should be noted for those in attendance that comments are to be addressed to the mayor and council as a whole. Comments heard under this item will be limited to three minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the council's agenda. Council may not take action upon any matter not agendaized on today's agenda. When you're called on for public comment, please state your name for the record and begin speaking. The timer will begin when you state your name and you will be afforded three minutes. For those participating in chambers in accordance with council rule 6.3.11. While in this room, please be respectful. Disruptive behavior from audience members like clapping, yelling, whistling, etc. which impede the meeting may result in a warning issued by the presiding officer. If the behavior continues, you may be removed from chambers. If you're an attendee in the Zoom meeting and would like to make public comment, please raise your hand at this time. Our first public commenter is Jerry Myths, followed by Tammy Holtzill, followed by Terry Brooks. All right, Jerry, where'd you go? Oh, there you are. Come on up. You need bigger letters for seniors. I can't read. I can't read them either, so don't feel left out. I need bigger letters, too. You're so young. Mayor Stevie, can you uh Mickey, I have something. Mickey. Mickey. No, the other way. Mickey, the other way, Mickey. Oh, that's great. You can see my dancing on my hat. Come back back back and never give really. Okay, there we go. Thank you. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, son. We should say that to every Vietnam vet whenever we see them. Welcome home, son. He never heard that. God bless him. Um, I didn't say my name and you already started the time. Come on, Mickey. Anyway um Jerry the pizza man, Nipsa. Today I'm going to talk about something that will shock you. I'm going to talk about how the pharmaceutical companies, the pharmacists and the doctors are sedating the United States. I've had personal dealings with the pharmaceutical company, one called Amgen. You can look on your internet and Robert Bradway. Mr. Bradway ran from me when I went after him because he tried to blackmail me. But they are sedating this country. The pharmaceutical companies make these concoctions that doctors want. They send their representative out to the pharmacist who then calls up the doctors and the doctors are given these uh new pills plus a whole bunch of other pills that they're given because the pharm pharmaceutical companies have plenty of extra pills to be passing around. um in the first days of the first time he was in the office of presidency. Unfortunately, um am Jen walked into the White House with two suitcases. Imagine what was in those suitcases for President Trump rump money. That's what it's about. And excuse my disrespect for the president, not the presidency. Um I've been to Richard Nixon. I believe I'm seeing that all over again. But watch watch that guy because he's only after himself and his name and what have you. But watch your doctors. Question your doctors. Don't let more than one doctor give you a prescription. You not know your doctors not know that that all the different prescriptions you're taking. My fellow seniors, please watch out. Okay, as far as anything else goes, how do I look, Mayor Chibi? Wonderful. Oh, well. Um, Devin Reese, nice to see you. Miguel, nice to see you. Brandy, thank you for the advice of being a future grandfather in about six weeks. My son said, "You got to look like a a grandfather and smell like one." What's a grandfather smell like? I want to thank you very much for me taking up way too much of your time. You're fine. All right. Bye, Jerry. Have a good day. Thank you, Hillary. Tammy Holtzill, followed by Terry Brooks, followed by Amber Terry. Thank you, Nathan, for the ascot. Nathan gave me an ascot. I didn't know where to put it. Hi Tammy. Go ahead. Tammy holds still for the record. I and Commissioner Herman and Megan Eert were supposed to or we did but Megan Neber couldn't because she was here have a meeting with FEMA with count with um Congressman Ammedday. In that meeting they FEMA turned around and came back to the city of Reno and Wo County. City of Reno staff decided to be compromised and used the word deminimous to FEMA and the amount of affluent that is being put into Swan Lake as it was reported to FEMA and FEMA reported it to to um Oh FEMA. Are you Are you showing us something? Okay. right there. Okay, that is what was reported to Congressman Ammedday from FEMA de Mandmus. So this year, Eert was told that there is no such report showing the amount of water that is rains for Stead airport. There's no type of report. But there is a report for precipitation. Staff is compromised. Staff does not report properly to our elected officials and I do not appreciate it. I also when I talked to FEMA, I took the time to do my own report and I also did my own minutes which Congressman Amadeday has which you will be getting a copy of. This report tells you exactly the size of Swan Lake which your staff could do using the mapping of Wo County. So why don't you take the time if you're going to lay people off, why don't you lay off the people that do not respect the staff that do not take the time to respect the people that are elected to the board because I'll tell you what, I am very upset that the fact that Councilwoman Eert gets lied to constantly. ly and I do not appreciate it. She is fighting for us. She is fighting properly and I have seen and heard the disrespect that she has received and I am not happy. I know the disrespect I have received from your staff calling me a crazy lady to council to other people to the lieutenant governor and I don't appreciate it. I am very angry at you people. All right. Thanks, Tammy. Terry Brooks, followed by Amber Terry, followed by Ben Beckham. Good morning. It's me, Terry Brooks again. And today, I'd like to share with you my thoughts on nutrition while employed and what seniors go through. Seniors who have worked for decades have been used to eating three meals a day, not while at work for breakfast or dinner, but when they were at home that day. They might have taken their lunch to work to eat at lunchtime. Or they might go out to eat or somewhere at lunchtime. For years, their three meals a day developed into a schedule that coincided with their working schedule. They'd eat breakfast early in the morning so they wouldn't be late for work and their appetite would be satisfied by the time they got to work. They'd usually get a one-hour break when it was time for lunch and they wouldn't be late for work coming back from lunch. Then when they'd finally get off work and went and then get to go home, they might enjoy a few snacks while they were at home. And after munching on such snacks, it would be time for dinner. They would relax and watch TV at home while eating their delicious dinner. Few people ate snacks while they were at work. Some jobs wouldn't even allow eating snacks at work. Eating three meals a day is actually very healthy, and eating an onregular schedule is also very healthy. Being active between breakfast and lunch and between lunch and dinner is healthy. And then getting a good night's sleep after dinner is healthy. Eating a variety of foods is very healthy. And eating similar types of food daily is also very healthy. But while you're working for decades, you may develop the desire to eat whatever, wherever, whenever you want when you retire. I would like to thank you all for listening to me today and I look forward to coming back if I'm not eating a meal that day. Thank you. Thank you, Terry. Amber Terry, followed by Ben Beckham, followed by David Shakar. Good morning. My name is Amber Terry. For the record, and I want to thank you guys for what you do, especially Mayor. Um, I've never done something like this. I was a classroom teacher. So I advocated for my students to always stand up when you feel a need. Um this morning we have heard love from dancing and oh they left from uh we've heard love u with dance. We have heard fear and concern from Jerry. We have heard anguish and frustration. And we just heard care for seniors. What I'm going to bring to you is a sense of urgency. uh with the quintessential five horn alarm like we would hear with a fire uh with a a fire h fire engine. Right. So the five depresses of the horn. Um and thank you for the accommodations. This is all right. Um you're fine. Just take your time. Thank you. So I moved I'm a lifelong native. Uh a resident or not lifelong resident. I'm a Nevada native. Uh went to school at UNLV, taught taught every grade you can imagine from primary to middle school to high school. Uh came back July 9th to start on a book. Um I rented a triplex uh unit above a basement unit on 1120 Gordon Avenue in the Old Southwest. Unbeknownst to me, the unit below me had sat contaminated in a sump pump break for 5 days by the time I moved in with my two dogs. City code had been called. City closed and condemned the unit below me on the 8th. I moved in on the 9th, unbeknownsted to the actual details. Within 4 days, a dog died, the landlord's dog. My two dogs became sick, showed kidney issues, dehydration, potassium breakdown, and lethargy, uh, disorientation. I became sick. Um, I called code enforcement. Code enforcement came out. So, just to be clear, the sewage had only been sprayed over with a sealant. The sewage had not the baseboards per FEMA or per any protocol for a restoration company had not been removed. Raw sewage sat. So what happened is raw sewage in a sealed basement unit. The vapors rose, my unsealed wood floors, my furnace vents, my dogs and I were being basically uh toxic bombed. The landlord said she didn't opt. When I researched, I had to get with the previous tenant under me. The the tenant said they opted not to use full restoration. Code enforcement came out and closed the case. I'm asking you to review code enforcement policies with a category three toxic environment and the environment that I lived in that had I stayed, my dogs probably would have gone into kidney failure and neurotoxic disease and died. Not unlike a three-year-old six pound Yorkie that died in that residence within this time period. It took Paul Davis Restoration 14 days to come out and and take up the floorboards and baseboards, which is not supposed to happen ever under any FEMA any protocol, contractor code protocol, restoration protocol, none of that. So, I'm begging code enforcement closed the case twice on me, please. The next people who live there could could die. Amber, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Can you do me a couple things? Um, I need you to leave me uh your contact information, your address with the clerk, and then um also um I want to find out a little bit about um the health department if they were called. They were. and they told me code enforcement was with it. I called the fire department. Todd Englesby said, "Don't go in that unit because you only have an air a window uh ventilation. You don't have an HVAC. You're recirculating toxins in your house." Okay. And I said, "Can you bring the fire truck? Can hazmat come?" "No, we can't do that. You have to have the landlord do it." She refused. Paul Davis came and stood outside my door and said, "Can you do Can you also um leave me the landlord's name?" Okay. Thank you, Amber. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm so sorry. Thank you. Ben Beckham on behalf of the McQueen Night Riders Mountain Bike Club. David Shakar followed by Steven White. Hi, my name is Ben Beckham. I'm here representing the McQueen Night Writers. I'm currently the board president of the Nightriders. Um, I really want to thank you um for letting me talk and um recognize the support that this body has given to our team. It's been very important. So, I want to tell you just quickly who we are and why that means so much to us. So, we are um a mountain bike club. We're affiliated with McQueen High School. Um sorry, can you see them? being shy. But actually, so we currently we have students though, starting last year, we now have fifth through 12th grade students. So we have all the way from 10 to 18 year olds. So we currently have students from five elementaryaries, two middle schools, and one high school. Um in the past, uh let's see, five, six years, we've seen this team grow from about 15 writers to currently this year, we're getting ready to have 70 riders, 35 coaches. Um so we've become um a big organization. We're a lot of people and we have a lot of people just really students and families just really excited to be outside on bikes and um I would welcome anyone here to come and visit us. In fact, we'd love to have you on a Tuesday or Thursday. We are often at Sierra Vista Bike Park. And so I I also want to recognize the support this body has given to Sierra Vista Bike Park and what a huge um boom that's been for our team and our growth as well. And and not just as part of McQueen, but just as the community, how important that place is for us. Um, but we're out there. We also host we also do races. We do five races a year with all of Northern Nevada. So, we're when I talk about this team, we're building a community and as we're growing, but we're also connected to other teams in Northern Nevada as well as parts of California. And so, like these two riders here, I know that they also now have friends all over that they go outside and ride bikes with. Um, we're an inclusive team. We we do a lot. We encourage all riders, all levels to come out. And we do, we get riders who have all levels of skill from love to mountain bike and bike all the time to I've never ridden a bike, but I really want to see what this is like. And it's really awesome to see that and see them take on this new sport that I know that they can do for their whole life. I know that because we do it and we do it as a family. And we get a lot of um the families, they'll become coaches are like, "Well, I don't know how to ride a bike." We're like, "It's you can try it. It's fine. You can you can we have lots of different um levels." And so we have parents who will start to ride and then they get hooked too. And so it really becomes a whole family thing, right? Um, and so what we're really doing, our goal and the reason we became a nonprofit and formed a board is because our mission is really just to get kids outside, but also to build their personal resilience, their decision- making, just build their build them up as their self-efficacy as better people, and I feel like we're doing that with a pretty large group. Your donations have been really important for us. And some of the things we do to help us grow is we now have a fleet. This year we'll have seven laner bikes because sometimes we have kids who come their bike not be might not be race ready so we're ready to loan out bikes to them. We also are able to pay for wilderness um training which is 16 hours for I think we'll have almost 15 coaches with that this year um because we do get kind of far away from help and sometimes accidents happen. We also um have scholarships so it's an expensive sport and so we're able to support some riders in getting involved in it. Wow. Great. This is fantastic. Are these your children? So, this one, this one's mine. Um, this one belongs to Miss Lizzy Dalton. She's almost taller than you. She's going to get there soon. Tells me that all the time. What about you? Uh, that's I don't know where my mom that this is mom. Okay. All right. And you are a mountain bike rider and it looks like you're pretty serious because you're all suited up. Yeah. I've been riding bikes for about eight years and this team really got me into it and I've I've loved every bit of it. Wow. Do you see why it's so important to get these kids access to the outdoors and to um sports and just enjoying, you know, sort of the camaraderie that you can find in a community. Um so we are so grateful for you, Ben. And what about you? Yeah, this is my fifth year on the team. I think I'm really excited. That's fantastic. Well, we appreciate it. Why don't you tell us um when and also where how we can join you? I know Carl Hall is a big He's a big bike enthusiast, but then he did go to what? You went to the motor bike kind, didn't you? The ebike. I do both. Oh, he does both. So, you you need to make sure Carl comes out and joins you. When when can we find you guys? Well, we practice uh pretty frequently at Sierra Vista. So, if you want to come out for a ride, if you wanted to come to a race, um I could get you some dates for the races. I don't have them off the top of my head. Okay. But those are fun events. and we have a tent and we have food because we have to host about 200 people just for our team at this point and there's lots of teams there. So, that'd be really fun. Well, thank you so much for coming out. Councilman Ree, thank you, Madam Mayor. Ben, thank you so much for being here and and Lizzie as well. I appreciate your advocacy. I first learned about the organization through Vice Mayor Taylor who's made some considerable donations to you in the past and certainly today I'm honored to be able to bring the donation forward and hope that my colleagues may ultimately join me. Um, you're doing great work. Uh, I am a lifelong resident of Ward Five and so it's my neighborhood and I would have liked to have had these when I was trying to get up the hill to school every day at McQueen. Uh, bike riding would have been great. Let me ask you this. The Sierra Vista Bike Park had a suffered a tragedy uh about a year almost a year and a half ago now when the structure there that was um left from the prior golf course burnt down. And so now you all have kind of taken the laboring or to help fund raise uh in some ways to repair and replace the structure. How's that going? Our parks department is going to help you. Uh Landon Miller is working very hard on it. I'm going to make some effort in that area too. But what can you say to our colleagues here on the DAS about that? Um what I would say is that Sarah Vista is an integral part of what we do in the community, not just for our team, but for several teams. And I would also just say how much we appreciate this body being willing to help us uh replace that structure. I don't have firsthand knowledge. I know there are several people. Uh my wife is currently the head coach of the McQueen night riders and she's involved in working on that. Um Miss Stelton over there, she's currently working on that and um we have at this point an architect who's willing to donate plans and time. We have a couple of donors who are um putting some funds towards it. But um we're really excited and really do appreciate the continued support and we're kind of sad that we are going to have to go a season without any kind of a shade structure there. As you know, it's Reno, so you know, mountain biking makes you hot. So we really we took made full use of that shade structure when riders got too hot for administering first aid um holding meetings, but we are excited at the prospect of that being replaced with something even better in the future. Well, we'll we'll be with you. So I appreciate you being here. Thank you so much. Thank you. David Shakar, followed by Steven White, followed by Trisha Ceden. Good morning. Good morning, Madame Mayor, honored council members, and our wellappreciated city of Reno clerk, Mickey. My name is David Shakar. I'm an independent artist and I'd like to bring your your attention to an issue regarding the free speech areas when there's a special event. And by the way, the city of Reno is the shining star in the constellation of any city in America that does special events. Nobody does them better than Reno. Um, one of the things about the special events is there has to be a free speech area and written into the code. It cannot be unreasonably isolated and it cannot be unreasonably isolated like this. I'm not sure how to show this on here. I'm gonna try to make this a little bit bigger. This is at the the recent Wingfest. And if you you see way way down here, there's a stop sign, that's one football field away from the main action of the Wingfest. It's unreasonably isolated. Um, so I got to the Wingfest early so I could figure out a spot to set up my easel. and draw people's pictures. And while I was there, I ran across an official from the Elorado. And I wanted to make sure that the Elorado would know that I have a right to be there because I don't like the confrontations I have with ignorant event promoters that don't know that I have a First Amendment and 14th amendment right to be there and draw on public property. So when I ran into the guy from El Dorado, he said, 'Well, we're sponsoring the event, so it's a private event and we have a right to relocate you. And I said, yeah, well, I got a right to locate my attorney and to sue your dumbass for violating my civil rights. And then he walked away. Um the uh the free speech areas are not just the area that could be located inside a special event. If the special event is in a public area where they're using the the streets and the public sidewalks, that's a free speech area. Uh it's not mandatory nor is it required for artists like me who have the right to exhibit and sell my own uh non-utilitarian self-created artwork on the public forum without the benefit of a permit or a license. Uh uh so thank you for being attentive to the issues about free speech area. I hope that the event promoters can realize that artists like me are not required to be in the free speech area especially when it's unreasonably isolated. This free speech area was one football field away from the main action. Uh, and it's no disrespect to the event promoters. They all seem to be pretty good people. They're just ignorant about what the law is. And um, I did speak to our team last time and we're going to make sure that we're educating much better and holding their hand so they understand the law and the rights of artists. So, thank you my friend. Thank you, Mayor Steven White followed by Trisha Ceden. Mr. White, good morning. I lost my little angel last night. I've lived with these little creatures for 54 years. I rescued them, given a happy life. They've been my family for all these years. I don't feel much like being here this morning, but I figured there's no better way to honor her life than to be here trying to bring some beauty to the world. So, I got to ask you, why we're halfway through the summer already. Why are there no artists in the public parks? Why is David the only artist out there on public property? It's mandated by state law. Supposed to artists supposed to be part of the recreational experience of public parks. You had 20 years to get the message out. That's all it would take is getting the message out, letting people know that they have this right to be out in the public parks displaying and selling their artwork. Fine art, not crafts. fine artwork, paintings drawing sculpture photography, music, theater, dance. The greatest tools we have for building bridges of understanding between people in this melting pot we call America. This melting pot of humanity. We need it now more than ever. Our children need it now more than ever before in my lifetime. I've been fighting this battle for 29 years. I've given you a state bill that mandates this. I've won federal lawsuits over this. Seems to me like the city government's doing absolutely nothing to get the word out. Mayor, can you and I get together and have your staff arrange for some PSAs? Of course. Public service announcements. Of course, we need to be doing this. I've given you the message that you can hand out to people and I don't understand why you won't do it. You know, I don't understand after 20 years, there are no artists in the parks. And you know why there aren't? Because for more than 50 years, this city government violated artists rights and threatened us with citations and fines and arrest. And now artists, I tell artists all the time, so does David. tell them that they can come down to the park and display their artwork and they're afraid to do it because this city government did such a good job of stifling the arts for over 40, 50 years. Pretty sad commentary. You all want to be an art capital in this country. You're buying $375,000 sculptures, plucking them down all over, and you won't spend one dime on creating venues in the park where artists can come and display their artwork. where you have rules set up next to those venues explaining what the rules are. I don't know what more to say. Thank you. I'm so sorry, Mr. White, for your loss. Trisha Ceden. Hi, my name is Trisha Graden. I did not think that I was gonna say anything, but I think I want to touch on some of the free speech stuff. Um, I've been participating in some of the protests against ICE. Um, I don't know if that you guys can see any of that. I want to um show you bring attention to the disappeared. Um, I'm not sure if you're aware because I'm not sure what happens here, but the government has given a lot of money to ICE to illegally kidnap and detain brown people. I myself was at a permitted event, much like he said, off, you know, in the back where nobody can see us. and witnessed a swarm of mass agents circling my son who is brown and born here. I don't know what the intention is. Is it to get information off phones, but we have every right to be out there. We I have attended an event at the courthouse where we have been given a permit and had the sprinklers turned on on us. We are given an hour on Tuesdays and you do yard work. So I don't know what you guys are doing. the gentleman that you guys gave an award to, please protect him because right now his event is on radar for ICE. Okay, that and that's what they're doing. So you guys take these, okay? This is disappeared and do whatever it is that you guys do. Please protect the brown people. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor. With that, we have no additional public comment. For the record, we did receive public comment that has been submitted to the Reno City Council and is available on reno.gov/meings as one letter of support, one letter of opposition, and three letters of concerns. Those are not associated with any agenda topics today. With that, we have no additional public comment. We're moving on to item A4, approval of the agenda for July 30th. Before I do that, I'm going to hand it hand it over to city manager Jackie Bryant. Do you have any updates or housekeeping on your agenda? Yes. Good morning. Thank you, Madame Mayor. The plan today is to hear the agenda in the posted order. We do have an attorney client meeting during the lunch break today. Um after we finish the council meeting, we will open the redevelopment agency board meeting and then that's all. Okay. Thank you so much for the updates. Move to approve. Second. All right. So, uh, I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say, "I." All those opposed. Motion carries. All right. Madame clerk, we're moving on to the consent agenda. All right. Um, I'm going to ask council members if they have any items they want to pull off consent. I'm going to start with you, Councilwoman Der. Go ahead. Thanks. Uh, just item B8, please. It's on the Sternberg. Counciloman Reese. Nothing, Madam Mayor. Okay. Councilwoman Taylor. Councilman Martinez, nothing for me. Thank you, Councilwoman. Nothing. Okay. Um, Councilwoman Eert, are you up there? Yeah. I like to pull item B12, please. Okay. All right. May I get a motion for all other items for this? I I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Okay. We're going to head on over to item uh B8. Councilwoman Der. up. Um, thank you. Yes. Um, thank you. I just wanted to pull this item because in the length of time I've been here, um, the Sternberg lights have been discussed over and over and over again. And it seems that they're either fragile or they break or they're issues. They're expensive to replace as I understand it. And I just wondered I I on this agenda, we are about to spend more money to buy more Sternberg lights. And I just wondered if there was a plan to move to a different lighting source or style over time or or what are you thinking? Uh good morning, Madame Mayor, council members. Tim Andre, extrusive vision manager, maintenance knobs. Um so what we're asking for right now is for actual the replacement of the current ones that are that are out or that we we lose. We lose anywhere from one to five a month either due to accident or aging out. Um they were first implemented early 2000s and over time um they tend to break off at the base in a big windstorm. We lost one on Sunday um just as they flex they they wear out and go. So there has not been any discussion as far as um going to a new light source on on maintenance side. Um I believe that would be more of a a council um directive. Um, we just maintain and these are from Mayor Bob. Thank him or No, I appreciate the work that was done and the effort that went into selection of these lights initially. It's just that as you said, we're now um in over 20 years on this lighting style and they seem to have had a series of problems. When I was with Arts and Culture, it came up a lot about the Sternberg and replacements and hanging um what do you call um some kind of banners. There were all kind of issues and I just wondered um normally I wouldn't bring this up, but I I would love it if you guys would take a look at it and see um what other options are available. These are just in downtown right? Correct. They're in they're in the downtown court. And is it like 10 blocks of Sternberg lights or 20 or um it's within the B area. So that whole entire area we currently have about almost 300 of these. Okay. Out right now. All right. Oh, you have 300 out, huh? There's not not out. I mean in in in use. How I was like I drove down. I didn't see it so dark. So yeah, in use there's about 300. If this is what you're recommending, I will support it. But I also think internally you guys should take the opportunity. They're almost now 25 years old. Maybe take the opportunity to see whether options are out there m whether you want to shift to a different one over time. Maybe block by block. Maybe work with the bid and talk about is there a a new style we'd like to put in or something that's more sturdy. So yeah, because the LED Oh, I'm sorry. No. And we have changed these. They are LED. Yeah, they have been changed over time. So, they are LED bulbs. Okay. Um, and fixtures inside the current Sternbergs. Okay, that's good. Yeah. Is that a reasonable request or is that I mean, we we can definitely look into it and then come back back again to council at at a later date in time. Okay. City, thank you. I think that's an excellent suggestion. They are extremely outdated. They've been around for quite some time. um assistant manager uh attorney might have something to add. But I I think it's a great idea for us to bring something back to council about that so that we can inform you as to what options are available, what the cost would be, what the cost would be to do a complete replacement and um what additional maintenance costs would be associated because whenever you're buying something, you know, you have to look at the life cycle cost, not just the first cost to buy, but the cost to maintain over its life. And some things are just more expensive to maintain than others. I know Miss Die is not a fan. You're not a fan. Well, she likes a little more modern, updated. Ashley Journey, assistant city manager for the record. Yes. Many people have heard me lament about um the antiquated visual appeal of those lights. Uh one thing to note for council is those are currently in your downtown streetscape adopted plan. So, if that's something that you would like us to bring forward, that would be something that I would recommend that the RDA body discuss during the capital improvement plan. Great idea. Great idea. Because that would be a great use of your CIP fund that will be coming forward for RDA funds is to look at light replacement. That's fantastic. So, it's yes to what you are wanting and that is definitely the place that you would want to bring that forward to us so we can start looking at what changing that downtown streets g and and also in concert with the bid, right? I mean, in RTC. We will be happy to spend anyone's money who would like to contribute. Um, well, that's a good I'm good segue. Curious to know. I would think that you could use RDA um for those lights. Is that correct? That's what I think she's saying. Is that what you're saying? RDA to replace them. We cannot use RDA to maintain them. So, that is something that we need to make sure we have a long-term to your point, Council Member Der, about cost of ownership and replacement as we go forward. That would be something we'd bring to the body to make sure that we're buying the most prudent opportunity for the future so you don't have additional cost as you keep going. And and I want to be clear to everyone listening or here. I'm not as concerned about the look and feel at this moment in time. This is not something I'm recommending in in financial times that we're in. But it's more about because of the financial times we're in. want to make sure that we're making the right investments instead of replacing, you know, something that we don't know if it works well or not. Um, that's all I'm asking is really what's the most efficient and effective and if you want a different style in the outcome that that's fine, too, but that's not my main concern. Thank you. Um, manager Bryant. Yeah. U Mr. Hendricks, I just want to validate something. It looks like the 135,000 is currently scheduled to come from the room tax and street fund. Correct. Because these are replacement, could we consider replacing these using RDA funds? Miss Turney, Ashley, Attorney, assistant city manager for the record. Um, I would say that that would not be we'll confirm with legal, but I would say that would not be an allowable use of your redevelopment funds because these are not full replacement. They are essentially a maintenance item because No, but if we replace them, I think is what you were asking. Replace all of them. So, we would have to replace all to cover by RDA. But if I replace 15, it's not going to be covered. No, because that's a maintenance function because you're not replacing them to completely change out the capital component. It's just fixing more. It could be over time, though. You don't have to replace every light in one day. you could have a five-year replacement plan, you know, and and I think that might meet the RDA requirements and I think there's some flexibility with the room tax maybe to have a plan to your point. I think this is a great discussion. Yeah, that's yeah, great discussion. Um but I want to thank you Travis for put putting LED in there. Good job. Well, that was that was a combination effort working with um Ker Kossky's team. Yeah, good job. It was a group effort. Yeah. Thank you so much. Mr. Truh Hill, will you do name and title for the record, please? Um, I apologize, Madam Speaker. Travis Truill, director of maintenance and operations. Um, so can we bring this back? I would like not to vote on this right now. Oh, okay. Sure. Um, or we could motion to Go ahead, Councilman Reese. Madame Mayor, if I may, please just um Mr. Hendricks, uh, Mr. Trull, thank you so much uh for the opportunity to have this discussion. As I understood it, the item was about $135,000 from the room tax and street fund that would be used to replace uh Sternberg lights that had been damaged or aged out. And so I think what I'm hearing my colleagues say is we are concerned that we are not fans of Sternbergs and nor are you, I'm told. And so our reluctance is to spend $135,000 on something that we might otherwise prefer be replaced. And so when I make a motion, the motion will be for continuence of this item, hoping that we can get a bit more information about the alternatives rather than allocate money for something that we don't really want to spend to replace items that we ultimately may want to replace all of. As for my part though, I think u Miss Tney gave a very good explanation for why they might not qualify for uh replacement even on one at a time items. But what I'm looking for is perhaps we can go to our RDA council and ask for a new analysis of that issue. I my my feeling is is that we believe that we know the answer legally and it may be based on older information and I'd like to see if the council we've hired with the very specialized skill in redevelopment agencies might figure out whether or not which funds can be used because at the end of the day uh I think all of us are uh likely to agree that we want it to come out of the right fund. So whether that's RDA, RTC, RSCVA, the county, whoever it is, hopefully it's not us, but we need some replacements. So that is I think what I'm hearing my colleagues say is that we would like to move forward um with that rather than allocate these $135,000 here. So I'll I'm prepared to make a motion at the right time having if I could add something to Andrew Mop, division manager. Um just just so you're aware. So as these go out um and they and we remove them then it's going to be they the city will be left with pockets of no lighting and also bolt the bolts sticking up. So this isn't this isn't getting us in this necessarily like a stockpile. This is actually coming in and being put back in place of the one that was knocked out. So you're going to have we're going to have areas where you're going to have a cone bolted to the sidewalk with no light exposed wires bolt pattern. So Mr. Hendricks, am I correct in saying that the concern that you raise is that the 135,000 that you're seeking to allocate today, if we should vote in that way, is to um literally go out and buy a Sternberg light from whoever the vendor is to put in place of one that is now inoperable or has fallen down. Correct. and to make sure that when we do have one taken out per our average of three to five per month that you have that we have it there to replace so that we don't have a um hazard to our community with the exposed wires or bolt pattern, you know, raised bolts sticking out of the sidewalk. I'm going to defer to Madame Mayor and Madame Vice Mayor who uh are responsible for this war. I'm going to ask you um I think you raised a really good question and here's maybe some of the challenge as well is the timing on looking at new lighting and what the possibility of that is Travis. Um because that might be a while. I don't know. Can you kind of like that lag could be a problem. So can you sort of speak to that? Travis Tel director of maintenance and operations. Um that's my concern as well. If we defer this item, um, we there is going to be analysis that needs to be completed. Um, and Travis knows too well that we all go, "Travis, the lights are out. What's going on?" Yes. Right. So, I think I hear your apprehension. The concern is just we we have knockdowns like Mr. Hendricks talked about. We have not only the exposed infrastructure, but we also have a safety issue with sidewalks and and so on. Um, these when we purchase these poles, they're they're exclusively for replacement as needed. Okay? We don't buy in, for instance, in this case, we typically would not buy in the full amount, just have a stock on them. We buy what's needed. Okay? Then what here's what I I'm thinking, and then I'm going to ask Councilwoman Taylor to weigh in. Um, because you're going to need those lights because they're out now, and it could be a safety issue, and we certainly don't want that. um obviously electrically and public safety wise um could be a challenge. With that being said, um ACM I think it still is a good item to bring back because of the room tax component um for the RDDA to look at what would be much more useful so moving forward we can save money in the long run um because we know they're antiquated. So, I do I I understand what they're saying. Uh is probably the best plan is what I'm hearing. Councilwoman Taylor, go ahead. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um based on what I have heard from our team and the recommendation, I'm happy to make a motion to authorize the director of maintenance and operations to purchase Sternberg decorative lighting in the amount not to exceed $135,000 and bring it back with a light steady or something close to that for the RDA. Thank you. Second. All right. I have a motion and Oh, wait. Uh, Councilman Anderson, go ahead. No, I was just Oh, okay. All right. Your lights on. Sorry. Um Miguel. No. Okay. All right. All those in favor say I. All those opposed. Motion carries. All right. Thanks you guys. Okay. Moving forward. Item B12 pulled by Council Member Eert. Hi. Hi, Matt Taylor, assistant finance director for the city of Reno. Um, this is a not a regularly reoccurring item because we don't have a lot of SADs that are maturing, but this is an exciting time that this sad has been paid for. And this is to close out the full uh remaining funds of the bond um and return a portion to the property owners as well as put u some into the reserve fund and transfer the remaining portion to the general fund. Okay, great. So, can you hear me? Go ahead. Was that to me? Yes, for it's all you. Okay, great. Great. So, um, in the staff report, um, there is a map, but it's kind of, it doesn't list the street names. Could you kind of give the general area street names that is included in this special assessment district? Yes. The main cross streets that are highlighted in yellow are Mount Anderson and Echo Avenue in the north or the north valleys. Great. And I noticed in the packet it says that there needs to be um something put into the Reno Gazette journal three times. Is that something that happens after we make this resolution? I believe yes that AMG our management cons our management company does that. Okay. So we make the resolution today. it goes out three times and then that notice uh in the RGJ and then the there's also a mailer that goes out to the property owners of these parcels. Is that correct? Correct. And then they will send the mailer back to confirm that the amount is due to them. Okay. And so this um surplus amount the property owner has to request the refund. Is that correct? Correct. Okay. And does the property owner have to request the correct amount based off of the information provided to them or how do they know which amount to request? It's a positive confirmation. So, the amounts will be listed on the mailer that goes out to the the property owner. Okay. And if the property owner does not respond, what happens? Um, they would forego those amounts. This happened a few years ago and we extended the time period because I think there were one or two owners that responded a week late. Okay. And how many how many um mailers are we going to be sending out on this one? I I believe it's they get one for sure. I'm not sure if we follow up with the second. Um but how many um parcels are included in this? Um they are listed in the staff report. I don't have them numbered in front of me. Okay. But there it's it's the page right before the map. Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't know if we had like a total number because it's like multiple addresses for the same parcel. Oh, wait. No, 42. So, 42 parcels it looks like. Okay. All right. So, is that a a requirement that we don't have to just send them a check that they have to request it? Um, and if they don't, it goes into um another account at the city of Reno. Yes, they have to um confirm that they are the owners and that the amount is due to them. If they don't, then the amount uh remains for the city of Reno. Okay. And what account does it go to after that period has ended? If it hasn't been refunded, uh the first $50,000 has to go to the debt surplus fund that we pulled money out of last year. Um and then the remaining portion is going to be put towards the general fund. Okay. And we have enough in this account to issue the refund that everyone is going to get a notice for. Yes. There's currently $169,000 in the fund and we are refunding approximately uh 40,000 or 37,000 to the property owners and then $50,000 will go into the surplus fund and the remaining portion will go to the general fund and to pay any of the additional expenses. Okay. And what kind of additional expenses would there have been on this? Um, we have to pay AMG, the management company, to complete all of the process. And then there was some staff time associated with it. Um, in total it was $7,300. Okay. All right. Well, I think that's it for me unless anybody else has any questions. Nope. All right. Um All right. So, I will um move to adopt the resolution. Okay. Thank you. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. All right, Madame Clerk. Thanks, Madame Mayor. We're moving on to item C1. Okay. Do we have any public comment on this item? We do have one public commenter registered. Okay great. Bob Listener, come on up, Mr. Listener. Great to see you. Good morning, council mayor. By the way, I should I want to remind everyone Bob is an esteemed member of the save officer team and he was awarded you had the most what was it? The most most hours last year. Can you believe that? I was there. So anyway, I just Thank you. Remarkable. That's a lot of handicap parking tickets, too. It's a lot. Great job. Go ahead. All right. Um, I'm Bob Listener. I'm representing Lifestyle Homes and I wanted to first of all thank the city council and the mayor for the personal time you put in helping this city. I know you you don't get that many thanks and you do get a fair amount of abuse. I wanted to say thank you. I'm here because we found out oh six, eight months ago that the communities we want to build in the north valleys off of Red Rock Road will not be the fine communities we wanted to build because of cost. And a fine community to us is entry-level homes with a lot of shade and grass in the common areas, not so much in front yards. We can't afford to buy the water. It's frightfully expensive in the north valleys. It's to build a 1acre park. It's $250,000 worth of water. It's um it's about six times the cost of what it is in Reno. So for we've had this property for 30 years and there we have some other owners also. We had great plans for most of those 30 years to use effluent to for great landscaping common area. We found out that that's not going to be possible under the current plans for the aquifer storage and recovery project. And we've talked to various staff members about it and it looks like that's not negotiable. But I tell you, we are dismayed that we're going to have a rock garden instead of what looks kind of like Column Ranch's entry. Um, shade in particular, I know this is this is your hot button. It's really nice. I've been working out there in parking lots and shade is wonderful. uh but common areas where we can have grass, kids can play, little neighborhood parks, we're not going to be able to do that. We can't we can't add that to the cost of the houses. So, we're hoping there's some solution that staff can find that we get some affluent. Yeah. Which is usually free or close to free. Yeah. As it is elsewhere. I'm doing fine. You're doing fine. Okay. the uh I want to tell you that we've been building for 38 years in the North Valley. We've built about 4,000 homes. Uh over time, we and others have bought land that someday progress will get there. And we're still waiting, but it's getting close. We have about 4,000 acres with handbooks for about 9,000 homes. We're going to be the customers of your new sewer of the new sewer plant, but the disposal of effluent has to be resolved. And uh I guess last thing I was say staff city and tumbler staff are both working diligently on that. But they're finding out that state and federal governments were just here to help you tomorrow, not today. So, I think it's been very frustrating for your staff to try and move this project forward with state and federal help. Thank you all. Well, thank you so much. We appreciate you. Um, Madame Mayor, just a brief comment and I'm going to say something at the very end of the meeting, but I I really do think it's in our purview, we're the policy setters to determine whether all um all sewage should go to the um the new plant to create new water or some of it should be reserved for reclaimed water for use for parks, open space, and those kind of things. That's a policy that we can establish. So, at the end of the meeting, I just wanted to while Bob was here, I'll bring it up at the end of the meeting as a as a future agenda item. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. All right. I'm going to um turn it over to you to Trina and John. Take it away. I am very grateful to say good morning. Good morning. Yes. Instead of good evening right? Uh for the record, John Flansberg, uh regional infrastructure administrator. Um today I just want to set the table here a little bit. Um we're not asking for any decisions. Uh we just want to talk about what some of these challenges and opportunities that we have in our various areas and really talk about sewer. Uh we're going to spend a little bit of time talking about our collection system. We're going to talk about the treatment a little bit, but we're going to spend most of our time when we refer to the water out piece. I do want to give a shout out to Council Member Anderson for coming out to Tumborth um this past Monday. Uh, we had a great tour. Um, and uh, I was glad to know that she she can nerd out as much as we can. Good. I love that. I love that. Who knew? Who knew you'd like the plant? It's great. Okay. I love it. So, um, we we have a little map up here and I and we're going to we're going to zoom in on the presentation a little bit more and talk about it, but this map is one that shows kind of our our plants, our interceptors, our lift stations. And like I said, we'll zoom in a little bit more than that. It's just a It's just a a display. Um I know that each of you um were um one was made for each of you so you'd have it and I even put one up in your break room uh in case you haven't seen that yet this morning. Thank you. Uh and just to get started, we want to really be big picture, but I want to zoom in for a moment. So I'm going to just talk about this picture for a minute. And what do we see? We see a manhole. So, uh, just a little fun fact, uh, uh, some of the tech companies were, uh, kind of highlighted several years ago because they were asking a question because they want to have problem solvers. Why are manholes round? So, why why did they choose round? Well, it's so they don't fall in. It's the same diameter all the way around. They can't fall in. They have ellipse, so they can't actually get the manhole going down. That would be bad. You wouldn't want your manholes to fall in. If they were square or they were rectangle, they would turn on their axis and you'd have what we call the hypotenuse and it could go fall right down. It wouldn't work. So, they're round. Uh, another fun fact, a manhole cover weighs about 110 pounds. They're not easy to get around. And so, uh, being round, they are quite easy to actually roll to put into where you want them to go. And you don't have to worry about lining them up because however you set it in there, they'll they'll kind of find their way in and and settle into the rim. So, just kind of sharing, you know, a little few fun facts about that. Now, if you're like me and you happen to be going down the road and you see where there's a stripe and all of a sudden there's a manhole and the stripe is skewed, that's where I don't like the manholes not being in the same place because I like my lines all straight. But, if you see that, that happens sometimes. The other thing you'll notice on this manhole is it actually has uh the city seal. So many many many years ago um the manholes when these are ordered for for developers when they're putting in new sewers uh they actually have this seal because these manholes are pre-cast. And so uh DNL Foundry uh right there on the lower right of your DNL Foundry USA is on the list. Uh you'll also notice that there's a little SS up there because this is sanitary sewer. If it was an SD, it would be uh storm drain. So just little things you can you can learn and understand from just the manhole. Now the manholes are 24 in in diameter. Why is that important? Well, we refer to this as the manhole, but really this is the manhole cover. The manhole is actually what goes down into the infrastructure down below. And so if you think about that, when we measure things like our waist size, when I measure my waist size, it comes up about 34 inches, maybe 35, 36 after Thanksgiving. Um, on the uh manholes, if you look at the circumference of a 24 inch manhole, it's actually about 75 in. So it's gives you plenty of room generally to be able to get down into the manhole and to do what you want to do. Um, so just some fun facts I want to get to. So, I'm going to zoom way in just for a moment. So, we can now zoom out. Our utility overview today is just going to talk a little bit about the sear utility, what it is, where it is, what it does, um, and then some of these challenges. So, we're going to talk about some of these different sewer sheds and the infrastructure that we have. Um, you know, all this stuff is underground. So when we talk about um you know the manhole and why is the manhole the picture we have in the beginning was because that's kind of the the symbol we have when you're out in in public of what you see when you think of sewer. You see a manhole. Um we're going to talk about the sewer treatment like I mentioned and effluent disposal and we're going to we're going to go through some of these upcoming projects. So it is one water. We've talked about that in a lot of ways, whether it's storm water that's coming down and whether that causes floods or what we experienced Sunday night. Um, or it's coming down the river and it goes into our domestic water source from Tamwa or it's after it goes to the homes and businesses, it's coming out and uh and going to our wastewater treatment plants. Uh and then from the wastewater treatment plants as Bob was mentioning in a lot of places we have effluent recycled water and we we take it there. It really depends and one thing I want you to think about water is I want you to think about where the water comes from. So in our treatment plants it's very important where the water is coming from. The majority of our water comes from the Truckucky River. That's the source water. So when we talk about source water the Truckucky River is the source water primarily. If it's not coming from the Truckucky River, it's coming from a well. And so that's groundwater because we're pumping it from a well out of the ground for our use. And we need to do that because in the summertime when we have the highest peak demands because we have all of the irrigation that's going on that is using our portable water s uh sources and we have the home use and we have our slip and slides out for our grandchildren. We need to have uh we need to have that extra water uh resource there. So the the the big draw in the summertime or when the river is below where we can actually take the water out for our source. So why do we have a sewer utility? The number one reason we have a sewer utility is for public health. So, fun fact, early Reno, um, think about early Reno and we had, um, uh, we had the train that came in and we had the river and we started developing between the river and the train tracks where they currently are today. And around in that general area, we had the university up on the hill. A lot of those early developments, our sewer lines went where? Directly to the river. Not great. Not great. Um, uh, you know, the nature is a wonderful thing and it does a and it does great things for us, but as we grew and became more, having more and more sewage that was just going to be pumped directly to the river um or going into uh uh septic receiving or however that was being handled at the time wasn't good. So, public health number one reason. Uh we also and and we have a serial utilities we need to make sure we're planning for our growth in the future. So uh that's one of the things that I uh concentrate on is I want to make sure that we have these resources not just for now but for the future and not just um for future population but for our existing population. So our sewer service in the city of Reno we have 275 residents. Um, if you were to take the sewage that's generated by our residents, uh, and you took a football field, and I use a football field because it's something we can kind of visualize, and you went to the back of endzone, to the other back of endzone, and I use back of endzone, so not 100 yards, but 120 yards, and you went to the goalpost, and you went to the bottom of the goalpost, which is 10 feet off the ground, and you filled that completely full. um you would have the equivalent of 5.8 football fields full of sewage every single day. That's the kind of volumes we're talking about that are being treated. We have 863 miles of sewer lines. That's enough uh that same distance as if you were to drive from Reno to Las Vegas and then drive back. That's how many uh lines of sewer we have. And we talked about those manholes. 23,345 manholes. Those manholes aren't just the surface thing. That leads to a cone, leads to some stairs that goes down to a distance that could be maybe six feet on the shallow end, maybe 20, 25, 30 feet on the very, very deep ones that we have. And then our pipe network, we send the sewage to either Tumbarf or Rizworf. Um, I did not put uh South Truckucky, we we call it Tumworth, Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation Facility or Rizworth, the Reno Steed Water Reclamation Facility. I did not put Stonewarf on here, the South Truckucky Meadows plant because that's operated by um Wo County, but we will talk about it today. So, population growth in the last 25 years, our population has grown by 50%. So, that's kind of numbers we're talking about. And when I look at planning and long-term infrastructure planning, I'm looking at 20 years. So, um that's that's the kind this is what we've experienced. This is what we um are uh we have today. Over 80,000 accounts between residential and commercial sewer accounts. So, the map, the display we have up here, this one's kind of a zoomed in model. um the Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation Facility on the very east end of uh of the valley. So Truckucky River. Um it serves every a portion of every single ward. Um so 80% of the sewage treated for the whole region, not just city of Reno, but 80% in the entire region um happens at Tumblr. And so uh um again our source water remember comes from the Truckucky River primarily at Tomwarf. We treat the water and we're required to put it back. And we'll talk about that more. In North valleys we have actually three treatment plants but the city of Reno owns the Reno Steed plant. It serves about 5% of the total sewage created in the entire region. Um remember Tom Warf was about 80% uh Renoad is about five. The Lemon Valley plant serves a little less than 1% um and it has much fewer customers and it's located right there next adjacent to Swan Lake up in Cold Springs. The Cold Springs Water Reclamation Facility treats about 2% a little less than 2% of our uh total sewage that we have coming in. Uh Reno Stead serves um again it's the larger portion up there in the north valleys and it serves primarily the residential uh and business area around uh the Stead region. Um everything from about Lemon Valley Drive um to the south comes to Turkey Meadows Water Reclamation Facility. So just um we don't we don't typically we aren't serving those those um businesses or residents. So, it's the ones that are more internal in South Truckucky Meadows, just the very north end of South Truckucky Meadows or in Ward Six, I'm sorry, of the Ward Six is going to Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation F facility. The bulk of South Truckucky Meadow or the W 6 residents go to the South Truckucky Meadows plant. South Truckucky Meadows serves about 12% of the overall sewage created in in our region. So, uh just give you an idea. So 80% at Tumbarf um about 12% here and then the remaining up in north valleys our city of Reno sewer collection system. This this is just to show you this is where all of the Reno pipes are if you will. Um and it's just zoomed out so you can see how it affects in all those areas. Um and where those pipes are. I wanted to be um I wanted to share a couple things with you. Actually, I'm going to go back one. Do I have any questions? Um I'll put a little red arrow. I put a little red box on the number here. Um do I have any questions so far on the presentation? Anything that anybody wants any questions anybody has wants to talk about? Question. Council member Der. Yeah, you said that um I guess it's 8% uh Reno Stead, Lemon Valley, Cold Springs, but you said um Tom Warf was 80. So there's a missing like 10 or 12%. South Truckucky Meadows does 12%. Okay. South Chucky Meadows. Okay, 12%. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Just with slide five. Slide five shows RZWorf with 2 MGD and I want to understand the difference between that and the upgrade to 4 MGD. So the um Great question. So the the reason it says 30 at TWRF is that's currently what we're treating at TWORF is about 30 million gallons a day and we're currently treating uh just over two million gallons a day at the RZWorth. Yeah. But I my understanding is that we've expanded RZWORF to be able to treat for another two but it's not yet ready to go until we have the water out solution which we're going to get into. Perfect. And Pwarf is actually permitted for 44 million gallons but currently serving 30. Great question. Other questions thus far? All right. We talked about the collection system, 863 miles all the way to Las Vegas and back. Um, talked about the 23,345 manholes. Um, we see them everywhere we go because there's that many. This is a really important slide. And I want to spend just a little bit of time here. Um, when I became the public works director in 2009, uh, one of the biggest things we had going on was a crisis in our sewer utility. We didn't have enough money in the sewer utility to be able to do a capital maintenance project. So, think about that. We have a sewer line that needs to be rehabbed and we didn't have enough money in there to do the work without going out and bonding for it. That's bad. So, um I spent some time going through what we had and uh the council in 2011 approved a rate increase five years at 8% per year and then going to the inflation factor thereafter. In 2015 was the last year that we had that um that that 8% increase and then and then where it went from there. This map shows the age of the sewer pipes back in 2015. Everything that's black is 60 years or older in this map. So you can imagine because of how we've grown, right? This is you can understand. You can see where McCarron is around here. And this is all internal to McCarron. Um we're our oldest parts of our town, 60-y old sewers. If it's red, it was between 55 and 59 years. And if it was yellow, it was 50 years. And so the yellow, red, and black, I want you to kind of look at those and kind of see where those are. Now, we're going to fast forward 10 years. And we're going to look on the right 2025. In fact, I can pull this one up of just the 2025 map. And you can see where a lot of the black has disappeared and now it's blue. The light blue. The light blue is 0 to 19 years. How did that happen? Well, it happened because we spent $129 million on just our collection system. We did that because of all these aging pipes that we had that we needed to replace, we needed to reline, we needed to rehab. Um, and so one of the questions or one of the things that we'll talk about at another presentation, you're going to love me. Um, uh, is when we do the public, uh, when we went out and did the public, uh, survey on the rate increase that we're looking at, a lot of the things we got back were, "Well, where does my money go?" Right? Well, here here's where your money has gone and here's what it's done for us. Um, we are in a much better shape because of being able to do all this work on the collection system over the last 10 years. And so hopefully we're probably just not very good about telling the story, right? And so I want to tell the story today. And so uh if you look at the map, you'll see where some of the yellow before is now red and some of the red is now black. Well, that's because of the, you know, those those areas have continued to age, but we've taken a lot of that black that was in the middle and we've been able to renew that. So, that's it's a new it's like a new pipe. Either it was lined or it was um replaced. And so, I just think that that's important to know. $129 million. No bonding necessary. All right. Lists. We've talked about list stations. you've approved many many things in lift stations um recently and in the past. In fact, in the last 10 years, we've spent $45 million on our list stations. Uh we had some that were in pretty dire straits, so we needed to to do something with those. So, fun little fact, list stations, uh I'm sorry, Council Member Ree, uh you have zero list stations in W five. the only one that so uh lift stations of course are taking the sewage when it's at a low spot and we need to pump it up to a over a high spot and then and then let it gravity feed back down to the plant. W five just happens to be uniquely seated suited so that all the flows go down uh directly from there and there is no need for a lift station. Um W one has two lift stations. Uh wards two and three have seven each. Um ward six has one list station again some similar the wastewater treatment plant is situated in the lower lower spot of that region and then ward um four has the most um and that's 12 and so uh just it isn't that list stations you know are every so much distance we have to have a list station to do something it just is all about topography. Now, the really gross picture on the left is some of the things that we have to deal with. So, as you can imagine, when water's coming into the wastewater treatment plant, we have screens set up right off the bat to be able to screen stuff out, get to the lift stations. We also have some screens that we're trying to catch the stuff early. Um, but we get some rag balls and stuff in there and have to take that out. So, this is um this is just showing what that is. So, those those disp um those flushable wipes are not that flushable, just to say. again, $45 million spent in our stations in the last 10 years. Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation Facility. So, once it gets through our collection system and gets to the treatment plant, uh it comes into uh uh well, we're going to just kind of highlight Truckucky Meadows here. We're not going to go into a lot of the treatment. Um but just to say that the general functions are the water the waste water comes in, we screen it. Uh we have waste kind of like that ball that you saw for the um lift station. We have that kind of waste uh that we're screening out right away. It's going in here and really the full job of the wastewater treatment plant is to separate the solids from the liquid. Um the solids have its own treatment process. And so in the foreground lower picture, those are called digesttors. That's like your stomach. So once we sit the the solids and we move the solids over into the digtor side, um they reside there for for many days. And the gases that come off of the digesttors are actually captured. They're cleaned up and then we run a generator at Tumbarf to create power. And we create about a third a little over a third of our power at Tumbarf from the gas that we get from the solids. If we didn't maximize everything that we have, we would not be as efficient um in this operation as we are. The the generator system that we have at Tumbarf that not only creates the power, also creates heat. A major part of a wastewater treatment plant is biological. And so we have bugs, organisms that are doing their treatment. They like it when it's warm. They don't like it cold. And so that excess heat that we create actually goes in to help in those processes to um to keep them happy and keep the process flowing. In this picture, as you look to the right, you see those circles. That's where the the the waste is going in and then the where it's brown. Um that is where the solids are settling out. The picture that has the the the foamy water is because um we have a bunch of air that's being pumped in there because those bugs and what they do to remove nitrogen or phosphorus are busy um in that process in that location. And then it looks like dark water, but in these circular tanks on the far side, that is where the the the clean the cleanest water now that it's been uh processed to that point is in the majority of all wastewater treatment plants. That is where it stops. That is it. Then they release the water and they're done. Not here. Why do we have the number one most stringent permit for nitrogen in the nation? We have that because again, remember our source water. We get the Truckucky River water. It's wonderful. We always kid Tumblwa about your superpower is taking Truckucky River water and deliver it to all the homes so they can drink it. Our superpower is we have to take all the the stuff that everybody gives us from that water that you've sent them and we have to treat it to a standard so high that we can return it back to the Truckucky River. So all the stuff in the in the background, all those big round tanks in the back um uh a lot of those processes are all for this nutrient removal. So you think about it, the Truckucky River flows through Reno Sparks, goes out to Pyramid. Pyramid is a terminus lake. Terminus Lake means it has no outlet. What happens at at Pyramid is any of the nutrients or salts that we discharge into Steamboat Creek that goes to t to the Truckucky River. Um they have nowhere to go. So in Pyramid Lake, the only way water gets out is through evaporation. So when that water evaporates any of those nutrients or salts that are left in the water are going to stay in there and that means that over time the salinity in Pyramid Lake is going to increase. That is why we have such a stringent permit that we uh have to meet um for our water treatment. Now, we've talked a little bit about uh water treatment um and talked about the permit uh at Tomwarf and and wastewater treatment plants in general. Uh that process is generally similar except for the exceptions I talked about mechanical, biological, and chemical. Those are what we do to be able to um meet whatever permit standards you have. It's just that we have such a high permit standard, we have more processes that we have to go to. So now I'm going to talk about the things that are different. So far we've talked about the collection system, how it gets to the wastewater treatment plant, and generally in treatment plants in general, how they're treating things, and those are generally similar. The the treatment that you take at the plant and the discharge requirements or permit requirements that you have going out, that's what's different. And then it's what you do with the water in our region that is very, very different. So on the upper left is where most of our water goes. We discharge it from the plant. It goes out into Steamboat Creek and then it flows into uh the Truckucky River. Um Monday morning when we were council member Anderson and we were out there uh you could see Steamboat Creek above the discharge and it was brown water. We're we're discharging very very clear water in there. Uh we we definitely uh improve uh the water quality in Simbo Creek once we we go in there. But what else do we can we do with the water? So we have UNR farms and so we set up many many many years ago in the 90s uh we extended water lines out there and UNR farms was using the Pioneer ditch which was a ditch not unlike Steamboat or Last Chance or um those that you that you may have heard of in our region but they had the Pioneer ditch and they were taking water from the Pioneer Ditch and they were irrigating their UNR farms. we swap that out with the effluent and so they've been using our effluent since that time. That's good because any effluent that we aren't so if we don't have to put the water back to the river, we have a place to to take it and then those nutrients that are part of that effluent aren't going back to the river. Truckucky River operating agreement changed some things for us. We had an understanding that we had so much groundwater rights and so much um that we could utilize for that replacement aspect. uh the truck the truck river operating agreement and the way the federal water master handles that agreement is that whatever flows to our plan on a Tuesday um and that that came from surface water again the Turkey River surface water has to go back on Wednesday basically that's that's kind of the balance they have so it has to be available to downstream users so u we are not only do we have to treat such strengn to such high standards but we also have to um we we we are mandated to replace it unless we have other water rights that we can replace those with in the river. So, we do use effluent. We use it at UNR farms park. Um we we don't expand much more in our effluent system um in general down here because of those other stringent requirements unless we have makeup water. And if you have makeup water, that's water. So, you'd have to pay for water rights to have the water rights to be able to replace it. So that's why we don't do a lot more of this down in in our region here because of the way that changed. One exception is the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center. And so what I want to talk about a little bit is just why this project was so good for us. Um the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center, they spent all of the money to build the project. So they built the the uh pump station at the treatment plant. They built the pipelines out. um they had to build a lift station even um partway out there and then uh uh they take the water to um the industrial complex. Why was that good? It was good because they actually provided uh replacement water. Um the state also provided some replacement water rights as well and Tumbla manage manages that to ensure that we have the replacement water rights that are needed. We also have the ability to kind of time when we send water out to to the TriCenter. Um, when we're pulling more groundwater out in the midsummer to into the fall, uh, because our surface water in the Truckucky River is going down and we have less water to draw from from, uh, we can send more water because we don't have to replace that groundwater, right? We can send more water out to the Tri Center. And so it's good for us because that lowers our overall amount of nutrients that we're putting back in the river that meets our permit. It's like getting a mini uh Tumbarf plant upgrade for capacity because we have that ability to send that water out to the to the TriCenter. We didn't have to pay for it. Um uh the TriCenter does pay us a um a small fee for the water we send out to them and that's to help um for us for future replacement of anything in the in the pump station. Uh pays for the electricity that we're using to send the water out. Um, and so they they've got their own way of covering our costs in the for now and in the future for sending that water out to them. Any questions on tarf and water out? Yes. Yeah. Do you know John, I just can't remember at one time we talked about putting a pipe from you and our farms underneath McCarron over to the flood project where we're talking today. Later today they're having a discussion on recreation opportunities at the Mill and McCarron project and one of the questions that's come up is can they have access to reclaim water and I know we had discussed it a long time ago. I don't think it happened but what did happen? Yeah. So the so there is a pipeline that we do have access there is there is a sleeve that was placed under McCarron. So we will have access uh to get effluent and it is anticipated that we would use effluent um in that area for any parks over there for any for any turf because that will probably come up later today and so I just wanted to understand the connection here and that'll just mean that we have to make sure that within our water rights and within our groundwater rights and things that we that we conserve it and and we'll work with Tom again we work with Tumba to make sure that they satisfy those with the federal water master. And one other question. I know that um I believe there was a comment earlier that we give reclaimed water away for free. Um but can you characterize that? I mean is that the infrastructure we build for free? Like for example in South Reno quite a few developments use reclaim water. Uh did they have to pay to put in that infrastructure? Did we what how does it work? We're going to get there. Oh, that's part of your But at Tumbarf, um yes, we did pay for the infrastructure going out and our farms and out to Rosewood Lakes Golf Course and out to Maryloma. Um Rosewood Lakes Golf Course is in in service anymore, but um we we we did we extended that out with sewer fund money and we have done that and we have not charged those users uh per our overall agreement with them. We do not or we do we do not charge them for the affluent because we were looking for users at that time. We needed we needed them uh to be able to have places. You know, this is something that's been developing for the last 25 well probably 40 years which is effluent was something we had to get rid of your point earlier. We threw it in the river and over time it's becoming more valuable. We knew this we're required we were required to put it back in the river to a point. Yes. Yes. And I mean this is all over the country. they they had a problem of discharge and they had an opportunity to replace uh portable water for things like grass irrigation, tree irrigation with reclaimed water and we were happy to do it and so we throughout the country a lot of places we gave it away for free and we always knew at some point it will become in demand and we just heard earlier a speaker talking about it being in demand and what I've heard is that in the north valleys we charge a different amount for reclaimed water than we do and could you Are you Well, we were gonna we're going to cover that. Cover that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So, we're we're in the water out piece and we're going to we're talk about TW Warf and then we're going to talk about the other locations as well. Um but uh to a good point, you got to think about this the effluent water and being able to utilize that as opposed to portable water for our parks and and other big users. Um that takes demand off of the overall drinking water system. And so it's it's actually uh you get a you get a double benefit if you would from that. All right, South Truckucky Meadows. Um, South Truckucky Meadows and I love this picture because in the background you can see the Huffacre Reservoir and um so the the South Truckucky Meadows plant is different in that their source water was either coming from the South Truckucky Meadows area or it came from the Truckucky River. If it came from the Truckucky River, they needed the developer needed to over buy the water. And the reason they needed to over buy the water is they needed to buy the return component component that was going to go back to the river. They needed to buy that so that those water rights stay and are dedicated to instream flows in the river. But that also means is we do not want any South Truckucky Meadows water going back into Steamboat Creek that will then get to Truckucky River. We need to keep them to keep that entirely separate. So fortunately we have the Huffacre Reservoir and the Huffacre Reservoir um is able to store that water. This is when we talk about a wintertime watery storage. This is what he reservoir does. And so you think about all during the winter that reservoir is filling up, filling up, filling up. You get to irrigation season in uh in the spring and and they start using that and they're going to use it from what they're directly making at the treatment plant for the effluent. And then in the high demand season, that reservoir is going to go down in the summer and down, down, down. And then um it's going to repeat and it's going to keep doing that. And as the South Turkey Meadows has grown, and it has grown a lot in the last 20 years, um they've needed more and more places to take the water. And so um that is the reason why water is different in the south. So when Bob listener comes and talks to us about um effluent use and and why things are so green in certain areas, they're going to be really green in South Turkey Meadows because they need to use all of this effluent and they need to find places for it to go. So much so that Washo County recently built a pipeline to Hidden Valley so that they could utilize um their water for the Hidden Valley Golf Course. And so uh again, it's just it's just a difference of where you are and what you have to do with the water here. we do not want any water going back to the Truckucky River. So they need to find users for it to go. So they do and so you that's why you have many many median strips that are that are very green. You have the parks down there that are green, the golf courses and um and this is where we've had some discussions at the council, right? in um uh Wo County so much needs places for this to go that they actually changed their policy a few years back and they stopped charging for the effluent water. Um and so the golf courses, our parks, we benefit because our parks get free water. Uh all the effluent water um is of no charge. Um when they first set it up, they were charging for that water. Now those costs didn't go away. Those costs are still there. So they've moved those costs to the sewer users. And so that's just the way that they've that they look at how they're doing the water. They're charging the sewer users instead of the water users for the um for this effluent. Renoad Renostad is in a closed basin. So um when we set up Reno Stead uh we would have we would treat the water and we sent the water to Swan Lake. We also developed um effluent users. So, we have the sports complex, Maris Park. We have the Silver Stage Golf Course, and we have um uh another another user for a very minor user of the water. And we use it on site. And so, again, we do not have wintertime water storage. And so, we needed the place for we have a place for the water to go during the summer and irrigation months, but we don't have a place for it to go in the winter time. And so, we needed to find um locations as we grew. uh we needed to find locations because we were getting close to the end of our our maximum permit of what we could discharge to Swan Lake. So we have a purple pipe system uh just like Wo County has in South Truckucky Meadows um and we go and serve these locations. Uh we do charge for this water because in our rate structure we wanted to make sure that we had the ability to um uh as as Wo an agreement between Wo County and the city we wanted to make sure that we had the money to pay back the replacement value of our pipes and our pumps. So unlike the tricenter uh pipeline that goes out to the to the Truckucky River Reno industrial complex where they paid for all the infrastructure up front. It was a combined effort where Reno and Wo County paid for the infrastructure up front. we are responsible to maintain and replace and so that's why we have a rate that we charge is so that we can make sure we can recover that rate that we need to pay for the replacement of this pipe for the reclaimed water and so that I think that might answer your question as it relates to the water out piece there um why I'm on this slide any questions on RZWarf and water out Madame Mayor. Yeah. Hello. Okay. I'll go and then you can Megan. Um just a question on this charge for reclaimed water. I know that you are working with the Western Regional Water Commission uh over looking at all of the sewer and looking at possibly regionalizing it. And that might be good where we wouldn't have these diff disperate customers. Some get it free, some have to pay. U maybe all of that could be put together and we could handle it more even-handedly. So, just a thought. No absolutely. Okay, over to you, Megan. Okay. Um, you mentioned the purple pipe. So, in the north valleys, was the cost of the purple pipe completely um paid for by the city of Reno or did we have any partners on that? Was any portion completely paid for by any user of effluent? A great question. It was actually a combination. So the city paid some. Wo county actually paid a fair amount. Woe county's largest benefit was they were using water rights for the Sierra Sage golf course that they had. Those water rights were very um uh were worth a lot of money. And so uh it was in their best interest to help pay for this project to extend the line out to the golf course so that they could then take those water rights and sell them. and uh part of the sale of the water rights that Washo County did actually helped to build the North Valley Sports Complex. So, great historic historical question. I appreciate the opportunity to answer. Okay, so did Washo County pay for the purple pipe or did the Sierra Sage Golf Course or combination? Wo county paid for the pipe? Wo county actually owns the Sierra SH golf course. Um, and so they have an operator that operates the golf course for them, but they paid for the purple pipe going out there. We did have a developer that also helped to extend um some of the purple pipe and paid for some of the cost there. Uh, and then again, like I said, the city of Reno paid for some of that uh infrastructure when it went in as well. Okay. And I've have a question regarding storage of water. So, I know that the the logic behind not charging for affluent um you know further south is because you know we we can't put the water certain places but we also had issues with flooding in the north valleys because you know we needed more places to put water. Um I know that um the Sierra Sage Golf Course had offered to um create some kind of storage lake on their facility. Was that um ever um explored at all? I mean, I know that's something that they were going to or willing to absorb the cost of to help with any kind of water storage so we could avoid flooding situations in the future. Um was that ever uh seriously um you know explored with them? I I do remember that conversation. We have not had um follow-up conversations in there, but I I it's worth exploring and understanding. Um again, it's uh 2 million gallons a day during the winter is going out, so it's a pretty good size storage, but um uh I will follow up and um and uh report back to council probably through a memo, but I will I will I will contact the golf course in Wo County to see what kind of opportunities are out there for that. Okay. And just one last thing too, I know that um we had a data center um get approved by council that um has agreed to get pipes to use affluent in the future should that infrastructure become um you know available for them to use. Is it possible to start thinking about that kind of thing in our design? I know we want to use water for the American uh advanced water purification plant, but there's also other opportunities to use affluent water um for other types of work. Is there any possibility to start thinking about building out additional infrastructure to um industrial areas that could potentially be used for data centers in the future? Um it certainly it is possible. It depends on where they are at compared to where our existing system is. Obviously, uh the further they are away from the existing system, the more cost involved in putting those pipes in the ground. Um but I think maybe my next slide in discussion of some of our challenges up here may be helpful to that conversation. Okay, great. I will have some more questions, but you can move on. Thank you. So, um, many years ago as we were looking at this, uh, situation, um, we spent a lot of time in 2017, 18, 19 talking about the flooding that was going on in in Swan Lake. Uh, we knew where we were with our permit. We were looking at the different options. As Bob uh, listener brought up, uh, one of those, um, options was looking at winter creating a wintertime storage. In fact, both of these options are really wintertime storage. which is the ability to treat the water and to be able to send it somewhere in the wintertime um so we can use it at a later time. And so those two options were the Red Rock Reservoir site and the American Flat. We we looked at other options as well. I bring these up because these kind of came down to the last two. The decision was to go with the American Flat Farm. And so all of our efforts over the last five years um have really been uh centered on the American Flat Farm and and moving that um forward. uh getting our partnership with Tamwa, bringing the agreement to council, um uh getting, you know, uh some grants uh opportunities, applying for and getting some grants and and having those discussions. And so that's why we have gone to the American Flat Farm over those two examples. So I just um kind of want to set the table a little bit for that. Um uh Council Member Eert had brought up the um you know, additional users. uh we need a place to be able to treat the uh water so we have a place to send it and and the uh American flat the advanced purified water pro uh facility gives us that opportunity to take all of the excess water and and treat it to portable water standards that we have and a key there is excess water. We still have customers in the summertime that we will continue to serve. We will continue to serve the golf course. We will continue to serve um the uh um the parks and sports complex uh as we go. Getting new customers uh at this moment in time is not great for the advanced purified water project because there's a certain amount of biology that's also in that project. And so as you can imagine in the summertime when you're reducing the volume of water that you're treating and then in the winter time you're slowly increasing until you you're increasing the treating the entire amount. um those are uh um that's that needs time for the for your organisms to to grow and and to get to that point. And so uh we feel comfortable we can do that now, but to go to actually like a dead stop in the summertime and then have to restart everything back up again um in the wintertime, that would be difficult on the American or the advanced purified water project. Questions as it relates to that? Yes. Um if I may, I guess. Um, John, I just want to be clear like the item I'm going to ask for later and the use of reclaimed water in North Valleys. I never contemplated a dead stop or uh completely use all the water in the summer for something else. In my mind, what I was going to suggest was a percentage of the water be set aside for reclaimed water opportunities. So maybe 10 or 20% of the water, not 100%. I just wanted to clarify. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. All right, regional challenges. So, um I've talked about this before. It isn't water. It isn't transportation. It isn't even land. It's going to be sewer treatment capacity. Sewer treatment capacity is going to be our um limiting factor for growth. And when we talk about sewer treatment capacity, we're really talking about Truckucky River and every development that would then flow to the Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation Facility um primarily is where that factor is going to be. Um we talked about Washo County owning and operating water reclamation facilities. It's not really a challenge. It's just that we work together on their facilities. Uh South Turkey Meadows is is is larger. The other two are are quite small. Um and they all have uh well Cold Springs does not have a city of Reno customer but um the other ones do. The other two do. Uh Wo County needs to upgrade. Uh so imagine if you're at a point where you need either need to make a decision kind of like Sternberg Lights, you're either going to replace them all or you're going, you know, you're going to start, you know, working on replacing some and and working yourself um into that or finding some other source of light. in this case a source of sewer. And so Wo County um and they've and and the decisions that they've come up with is they would like to decommission their Lemon Valley plant. They just want to take it completely out and send those flows just um to the res to the Reno Ste plant. By doing so, they would have to pay our connection fee of course just like any other developer. Um but that is that is a challenge that we have because they have that need to either upgrade or dis decommission the plant. Uh we talked about uh the challenge of the Tumbarf discharge permit. Um we've got some really good things that are happening on that front, but that is a challenge that we always have with the nutrients and solids or salts and how we're handling all that. And then uh one that's that's come up and we've even talked about uh Sparks um their sewer capacity. Um they are basically at the top end of their uh treatment capacity at the Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation Facility. And so what that's done is it's it's created some uncertainty, especially in unincorporated Wo County and Spanish Springs. And if you're a developer, you don't like uncertainty. And so um that's why we're seeing pressure uh there um in and what they can do to to ensure that they have capacity to grow. And we've looked at ours and and we will have continuing discussions uh as it relates to the capacity. But those are a lot of our our challenges uh that we have. Um I wanted to go just make sure okay and then I am going to wrap this up but it is fun. So you know thank you for your time appreciate your patience. Um at Renoststead yes uh we have we have been going forward with this water out solution as it relates to advanced purified water. So we've we've completed a plant capacity upgrade. We've gone from 2 million gallons to 4 million gallons. Uh we've had some upgrades to flow shave. Now when we talk about flow shave uh we send our sludge our solids. So think of the tumborf plant you know 99% of it is treating the water and sending it through it. The other 1% is the sludge that we're doing what we do with it. We send our sludge from Renostead in a pipeline and pump it up over the hill so it goes to tumb for for treatment. And so that's what that flow shave is. We're utilizing capacity currently in that system that we have. We've changed out pumps because the pumps you had in there were positive displacement pumps. Um uh if if you think of a well, what's a good thought on that? A water gun, if you squirt a water gun, positive displacement is you have a certain volume of water that you squirt and it squirts out and it's done. Um a fire a garden hose that is that is cons constant water that's coming out, right? It's not just one. you didn't just push push the water gun uh and get a squirt of water coming out. It's it's you've got the the pump behind it that's pumping it continuously. That's kind of the difference between the flow shave and the pumps that we're using um in order to make uh difference if you're just moving the sludge down the line as opposed to having actual sewer flows going through there. That's why it's different. Um we've got the the uh admin building and then some upgrades now that we've got the new plant upgrade from two to four. We're actually taking some of those round circle clarifiers um and we're we're upgrading those, the ones that have been in service for all these years. So, we're we're taking care of those things while we can. We still need to get the water out solutions. So, that's advanced purified water that we're talking about. And then we do have that decision from Wo County, depending on where we go with water out and when that happens, that they'd like to uh um send their flows to our plant at Truckucky Meadows. When we look when we think of projects at Truckucky Meadows uh uh water reclamation facility, Tum Wararf, we are all about uh making sure that we're replacing the old stuff because we got a lot of old stuff from that plant built in the 60s. Um but we're also looking as far as new projects, what we can do to enhance and improve our nutrient removal um uh process. And so we've completed nitrification tower rehabs. Uh we've got a filter process. Um those aeration that's the fastmoving water down there with the air in into it and the clarifier basins the big round circles. Uh basically uh you saw the ones in the picture. You're replacing doing one or the other about every every year. Um one of our main objects we have coming forward is the deatering building. Um the deatering building is where we take the centrifuges and we separate the the water that's still remaining in the solids um and get as much of that water out of the of that process of the solids before we send the solids to the landfill. Um so we just we have backup design. We have um uh the mobile mobile organic bioilm. I do want to talk about this for a second. This was a pilot project that we've worked on with the university and a vendor and what we found is it has given us uh really good treatment of nitrogen. It's been one of the best uh treatments we've seen. So, we're going to be moving that to more of a full-scale um process within the plant. So, those are the those are the the complications, the the challenges that we have, why the different locations are different and how we look at them differently. um because we have different objectives we're trying to meet for our permits and for water and and all those items and projects that are still coming forward. So, what happens if the system fails? You make the headlines. Now, if you have a a sewer utility, you don't ever want to be in the headlines. Um typically, right, if you're in the headlines and you're a sewer utility, it's not usually a good thing. And so, that's why we do what we do. That's why we spent has spent the money we have on all the rehab projects we have in the collection system, in our lift stations, and at the wastewater treatment plant. I would rather be in the headlines because I'm asking you for a rate increase than be in the headlines because we had a sewer failure, bottom line. And so that's uh um we we don't look at failure as an option. Um, so we're we're making sure that we are able to treat and do the the process and things that we're asked to do. And then to wrap it up, there are some upcoming council actions. We do have that sewer rate. Uh we're going to give you the feedback from the public um and look at some diff and some options. Uh the advanced purified water facility, there'll be a presentation coming up on that. And then uh septic to sewer. We've got a major we've got a neighborhood that we're replacing all the streets in and that are on septic. And so uh an item to discuss uh the conversion potentially of that um area from septic to sewer. That was my overview. Okay, John, thank you so much. I love how thorough you are. I think it was fantastic. Um can I ask you I think one of the most important aspects for me and I think you would agree with this. um all of us would agree with this is the outreach um how you intend to do that because so often we hear we weren't included and I know it's it can be really hard because everyone now communicates on different channels. We really do. We all get our news and information in such a different way now because everything's on demand too, right? Yes. Um so can you give me an idea what that looks like? I really want to make sure that every resident of the city of Reno doesn't come in and say, "I, you know, I wasn't aware of this. I didn't know." So, I want to do everything we possibly can um to message, get the their feedback, h have I mean, obviously, you'll work with comms and all of that. Yes. And we went out for feedback and we miraculous ideas. We kept it out for quite a long time and um and we received um you know 276 comments. We made it as easy as possible in how we did it so that people could just click on a link, they could go to the survey, they could answer some questions um and and provide their feedback that way. Uh we did hold public meeting. We did not have a great turnout for the public meeting. Um, and we saw just little bursts of public comment coming in every time we had a a different milestone that we got the word out there just but again it was it was fairly small because we only ended up with 276 comments I believe is what we ended up with in the end. That being said, I think from the comments we did receive um again it was a lot of those things like what are you doing with my money you know and government spending and there were as I know you guys are going to be surprised there were a lot of comments that weren't even related to the sewer, right? they were just other comments in general um out there. But um we did get some of that. So that's why I'm saying I don't think we tell our story very well. So when I talk about spending the amount of money that we've spent, we've spent $334 million in the last 10 years on all of the things that we cover within the sewer fund uh for major pro. That's just on the projects. That's not operations. That isn't all the other things. That's just what we do there. 99 million of that was on the capacity side. The other uh 234 million uh was on uh replacement with doing the things we show in in all the different areas the plants. Um interesting. I think sometimes we take it for granted, right? We take our services for granted because they can be catastrophic catastrophic if um you don't take care of them. Matter of fact, your first slide was so impressive. Um keep showing that slide because it's important for people to see the work that you do. Um, I'm going to start with Councilwoman Der and then I'll go this way and I will call on Councilwoman Eert last. Okay. All right. Thanks, John. Yeah, amazing presentation. I don't think I don't recall ever spending an hour on our sewer system. I don't know that it was an hour, but it felt very thorough. I'm glad this isn't a trap door. One one thing I just wanted to put a little spotlight on um that you that you mentioned at the end was this advanced purified water system. And I think um it's important to know how we got here and many people were not here through not just council but staff were not here through the development of that decision. And so I just want to remind people that back in 2017 we had a flood at Swan Lake. And um there was an a perception that some of it was caused by water that we were discharging to Swan Lake out of the sewer system just like we discharged to the river. But when we discharge to the river, it goes away. And when we discharge to Swan Lake, it stays right there in a puddle. We can see a lot of the issues out at Swan Lake were probably due to storm water systems and how they operate and so on and so forth and the fact that we had an enormous rain right on top of Swan Lake. But what I at that time you were wanting to expand the Reno Stead plant and the big issue the reason we couldn't expand and we spent an enormous amount of time on this was what are we to do with the effluent and the the big things that I recall we looked at was should we build a reservoir and stack it all in the reservoir and one of the downsides of a reservoir is it's subject to evaporation so you're losing like half your water up to the air you can't use it for reclaimed water you can't use it for purified water later. Um, and they cost an enormous amount of money to build. Reservoirs as well, have to be engineered. The other option we were looking at was putting it down something called Long Valley Creek, which goes north into California. And as our former state water planner, I could not imagine us being the driest state in the nation, sending water to another state when we could use it here. We could use it for purified water. We could use it for reclaimed water. We need water. So the idea that we would just throw it away as it was useless was an anathema not just to me but the whole council. What are you kidding me? And then we looked at I thought a brilliant opportunity which was advanced purified water which was to take this bad thing that we had to get rid of and turn it into a very good thing. Now does it cost a lot of money? Yes. But we we have had an opportunity at the regional uh water planning commission to tour other systems in California, in Denver, in Tampa, all through the country where they are using advanced purified water systems done a little differently because of we have different rules in Nevada or we did um and they're using it and they have found it costbeneficial. They are making it work. Um they have a cheaper way of doing it. They don't have to go through a sand filter and store the water for five years. But just at this last legislature, the legislature directed D to look at a different way, maybe get rid of that redundant system. So, I just wanted to go on record as saying I'm extremely glad we chose this option. It preserves our water. It um and it provides new water and it also provides if something should happen to our water supplies, let's say the Truckucky the the Truckucky River, we have a backup source. So, I'll say that for now, maybe come back with a comment later. Thank you. Okay. Go ahead, Councilman Ree. Thank you, Mr. Flandsburg, for the excellent presentation. I want to also thank uh you and Miss Mcun for giving me the opportunity to spend a bit more time with you earlier in the week about just the broad issues involved in the sewer. Um what I will say for the public and u for my colleagues is that perhaps the most complicated thing in the city of Reno for me to understand as a council member over these last seven years has been the sewer system. It just is something that um is hard to comprehend if you have no real idea about it when you come in from uh being a non-elected person into elected office and the implications that it has for our region are pretty profound. So either at Tamwa or here I have tried my best to learn as much as I can about the system and I think your presentation today was really a very um great and high level explanation of many different components of it. Uh like Miss Der, I continue to believe that the um advanced purified is an important component of that and I know we'll be talking about that in the future. So my comments won't be focused on that today. I'll also say that I had the opportunity yesterday to spend time with Mr. Truhole and Mr. Hendricks out at the courtyard and got to speak to some of our sewer maintenance folks and uh got to follow a video as we went down into the sewer system and tried to deal with a plug. What had happened was an area in southwest Reno in the Newand's area had during the flooding experienced some water intrusions to areas that might not otherwise have experienced. It also created the conditions under which the pipe there um had it essentially an tree intrusion had created the conditions under which a plug had happened. So our employees have to go down into that with a essentially a robot and a thing that chews up the plug and takes it out. But it got me to thinking um about the reasons why our sewer is so important. And of course, we don't see it because all of us just expect that when we flush the toilet, the things go away when we Yeah. And when it we turn on the water, the the our faucet, the water comes out. Um but I do think uh in some ways I will say perhaps that you buried the lead in today's presentation in as much as this slide and series of slides about the age of sewer pipes over the 10-year period. Man, that is super important. And I think in government, we don't often get to take credit for any of the effort that happens. But the commitment that we've made through the sewer fund to continually uh replace and upgrade pipe is um it's not sexy. It's not very interesting, but man is it important. And that slide perhaps represents for me those three slides the most important part of the presentation. And so I think madame mayor is right that we've got to be telling that story. It's also true that we had a public commenter who said, "Hey, the home where I lived um became toxic because the lower floor flooded, a sewer system uh something happened there. It caused flooding and then the restoration was not happening. I think if we don't invest in our sewer system and we don't take the proactive steps that we have taken into the future both with creating the advanced purified or doing the other things we really do risk more of those failures. So I appreciate the presentation and thank you for it. I don't have questions on the time but I really think the presentation was awesome. All right, Councilman Taylor. Thank you John for the presentation. and it was very thorough and um you're definitely in the position you need to be in because you're so passionate about it and you get very excited about this and you're extremely knowledgeable. I guess um I just have a couple of thoughts and maybe a question. We talked last week we had a sobering presentation about the financial state that we're in and in your presentation you said um on one of the slides sewer is the limiting growth factor for the region. It's not just for Reno, it's for um Sparks. I think we have an opportunity here to look through the lens of a business to make these decisions as we move forward for the region. And when I look at how we have decided as a community where we're going to grow, we've said maybe we want to put industrial in certain areas where the services um we don't necessarily have the services for residential. But my question moving forward is um again looking at a regional map, we don't have a ton of stuff that's coming in Reno where we're going to be um major major developments yet. We have some in progress. We don't know whether they're going to go. But when we're looking at um building in Wo County and Harris Ranch and stuff like that and some of the other places, are we uh looking at it like a business or out to trek? Where do we need to adjust as the city of Reno financially to make sure that we are recouping recouping the costs for the services that we provide? For example, um APWF when we first started, which is a very important project, I think the costs were significantly less. Now we're up to a $280 million project last I heard. So, how are we evaluating what we are charging for these services? How are we recuperating those costs? moving forward. Great question. And resetting them. Great question. So, we do look at those. In fact, I am currently looking at with some of those the new numbers our connection fees because again, we have two fees. We have the user fee which is replacement with what we have and making sure that we continue and maintain and operate and do those things we do. But then we have the connection fee to the development community which is what is the cost of that um connection? How much sewer capacity are you going to be using? That finite number that is the limiting factor of all growth. how much of that are you going to be using and then what is the appropriate cost of that um connection for doing that work and so we are looking at those when I look at the overall development question that you asked um and that's kind of real quick on kind of pause that is the story that I we need to be telling too is there is a real cost to growth and expanding and providing these services please continue sorry yeah 100% so when I look at our overall growth um so um many years ago ago, I worked for Granite Construction Company and one of the last projects I worked on for them was to estimate a new subdivision that was going in in South Truckucky Meadows. It was going to be one of the first subdivisions down there. Uh to age myself a little bit, that was about 29 years ago. Um Granite Construction had just finished building the bypass, if you recall, down into the south, if you've been here for a while, and and uh we were looking at or the developers were looking to start develop out in that in that area. Um, since that time, we think about all of the growth that we've had in South Truckucky Meadows. Um, but we're getting kind of close. Things are, you know, the stuff that's left to develop is getting up into the hillsides. It's getting it's going to be a little more difficult to develop. Um, we are going to see development out in Berai. Uh, we we we see what's happening out there right now. We've got some growth that's going to happen out there. Uh, the last place that we're and we have the infill. You mentioned Ranchera and some other places. We're definitely going to see some infill. But when we look at longterm and and not even does it have to be necessarily long-term but um midterm um we're going to see some more growth. We will see some more growth in North Valleys. And we when we did a sewer study up in North Valleys for instance um the original one that came out that I recall was like 9 million gallons was going to be the total we were going to need. Um we have only planned out to look at say six million gallons at this point. We're saying saying it, you know, where we're going to be, but we we we're building to four for now from two to four. Thanks so much, Madam Mayor, and thank you, Mr. Finsburg, for the presentation. Um, I appreciate you sort of focusing obviously on the city of Reno and the challenges there, but I'd like to maybe expand the scope a little bit and talk about the work that you're doing through Northern Nevada Water Planning Commission and sort of you could bring in where that process is. Any I think you hinted a little bit about the regionalization of sewer and some of the consultants that have been hired already to do some of that work. So, I'm just wondering if you can include some of that in this conversation as well. Um certainly so uh um we actually have the city of Reno focus meeting is going to be tomorrow morning. Um so the the consultants Rafelis was chosen to come in and do a presentation or to do a study. They're actually realizing how big and how complex this system is. They're actually coming in this first time. They're they're basically getting questions answered so they can actually be more speak more intelligently to providing the Western Region Water Commission with a scope of of work proposal for doing the next step of looking at the regionalization, but they're looking for small winds and what's happening now. Um, and that work uh again we have a tremendous amount of collaboration we already do with Wo County and City of Sparks um in the areas that we're in. But this study is to look at regionalizing um what is what does that look like if we were to regionalize and have one sewer body. So back in the day Sar Pacific Power had the water um Wo County water resources had mostly the well type system and then that entity to Tumbla was purchased by the three entities uh to develop Tumbla from Sarah Pacific Power and then the merger of Wo County water resources in so we've got some experience in this area looking what it looks like to regionalize. Now we're taking that same lens and same experience and looking at it as a region for what it means for sewer. And that body includes representatives from all the jurisdictions in including Tamwa. Including Tamwa in that discussion. And then just one question for you on slide 23 you talk about the regional challenges. And the first one you hit is the sewer being the limiting growth factor within Wo County. Um, sometimes we hear from our current residents about not wanting to absorb that and I think you did a great job of explaining how much work you've done in replacing some of the pipes um, and that, but just curious if you can add more to that. Sometimes we hear the phrase growth pace for growth. Um, but just wondering how you see that playing out and if you can add more to that conversation. Yeah, it's really important. Um, we really want to look at when when we talk about spending the amount of money that we spend on our overall sewer utility. Again, in the last 10 years, 234 235 million total was spent from the user fee side. That means that we were replacing pipes, we were doing work on our lift stations, doing work at the wastewater treatment plants to replace existing systems. The 99 million was from the other side of the equation, which is the development side, and that's for expanding due to capacity. And and we did get a lot of these questions that came back from the public feedback and we'll talk about that when we present that piece of it a little bit. But there is a a perception out there that growth is not paying for growth. And we we really work hard to make sure that those costs for those capacity improvements are on that side of the ledger of of when we so when we charge that fee that we come up with that we nearly doubled a few years ago um that we're charging the right amount. Awesome. Thank you. I think I'm out of time, so I'll leave it at that. Thank you, Mr. Fansburg, for the presentation today, the tour, the education this week. It's been very helpful for me. Um, most of my colleagues have said and touched on the points I wanted to make. Um, I'll just share this mildly boring story. From 2010, I was interested in city government and leadership and the things that were challenging the city and the sewer at that time was massively underfunded and had a lot of projects that needed to be fixed as your slide 12 shows from the 2015 map with all of that black um on the map. And I remember sitting with the beat reporter at the Reno Gazette Journal at that time and asking her, I mean, I had documents spread out at Dish Cafe and said, "I don't understand why nobody is telling the community about what a risk we're in here with the sewers." And she flatlooked at me and said, "Because no one cares about the sewers." But this presentation helps us do exactly what we need to do is care about the sewers. And um I just wanted to give you and your team the credit for being able to walk us through why this is so complicated. But most importantly, slide 12 shows us the work that you're doing and what a massive improvement that is. And as Mr. Ree had u mentioned, we had a public commenter here today that can tell us exactly how tragic a sewer failure is. And so nobody likes to hear those stories, but making that full circle is really important. So, thank you for the work there and I'm looking forward to my tour tomorrow at Risborg. All right, Councilman Eert. Yeah. Um, just a a few more questions about um the affluent use. I know that there was a purple pipe built out to trick. Um, can you kind of explain how that was funded? Was that a joint project? Was that something paid for by the developers or how did how was that pipe funded? Yes, thank you for the question. So, that pipe was 100% not only the pipe but the lift station, the pump station if you will that um takes that flow out because you can imagine 13 miles it takes a long uh a lot of pressure to move the water out that far. that was 100% funded by the Tahoe Reno Industrial uh general improvement district and through their users and and so that's it it was funded by uh uh that that development group if you will. Okay. Um so is that something that could possibly happen? I mean again just talking about effluent use is it just a limitation on funds or is it a combination of that and we don't necessarily want to get rid of all of our affluent that would be limiting on using affluent water for data centers or additional you know just any type of use uh in the future uh in the North Valley's area. Yeah. So, North Valleys is is an interesting location because you've got, you know, we talk about the water in, water out situation. The water provider in North Valleys uh comes through TMWA, but the source water is through a company called Viddler. Um, and so they um they are the ones who sell the water up there and um and they have a lot of water for sale. And so it's it's kind of competing factors when we look at north valleys in terms of where the water is and what we're trying to do with it. We talk about uh using it for a data center. Um you can use reclaimed water for a data center, but you're going to probably do you're going to do some additional treatment of that water um at your site um when you receive it to be able to use it for that purpose for the water cooling um site. So there's there's going to always probably be cost factors that people are going to be looking at as it relates to that. um they're using evaporative cooling uh through the water cooling process. So that water primarily gets evaporated. So that doesn't contribute more water per se to the region when we think of water in has to be equal to water out. Um uh but as far as the purple pipe system, can somebody do that in the future? Absolutely. We could have development that built a purple pipe system. They could build the reservoir. Um I mean we we looked at the cost of those things and the decision that was that came to was to do the advanced purified water uh facility in in lie of the reservoir and it was extremely expensive to do both at one. Yeah. Okay. And then another question, I'm not exactly sure how much time I have left, but I just want to ask, you know, we recently had um a vote to um make a change to the Stonegate PUD or essentially um get rid of the Stonegate PUB and also get rid of the um the um condition that Stonegate had to um build a pipeline to connect to Tamwa. I believe it was a six mile long pipeline. Does that change have any kind of impact on future development that was um you know going to hook up to that water um expected to hook up to that line? Um does it have any kind of um you know future impact to um additional development that would have come to you know in between Stonegate and the rest of the north valleys? So great question. Uh Stonegate is 100% in the Cold Springs sewer shed. So all of the sewer flows that come out of Stonegate area would would go to the Wo County Cold Springs plant. Um as far as the water line uh and the not having a waterline connection from Tumbla, that potentially could have an impact on future growth just because there would be uh depending on how much growth happens out there, there would be a need for additional water. Okay. and the amount of effluent that's that's created out there, does that have any kind of impact on the treatment uh that's available out in the north valleys? So, um the treatment really is a function of how much uh um how how many sewer connections we have. So, residential and and uh commercial industrial uh sewer connections, how much flow they're sending to the plant. And then of course the effluent is is the byproduct once we go through the treatment process. So really it's in order to gain more effluent we need to have more customers on the front end. Okay. So but the amount of effluent that's projected to come from that development has already been accounted for in you know the the plans that we have now that yes it is. And it's okay. And interestingly um one of the benefits of advanced purified water is we actually gain water rights through the process. And we actually would gain those water rights through the process on the front end because we already have existing customers and have quite a bit of flow going through there. So you actually create some water rights right off the bat. So it's not like you're waiting for incremental um customers to join on to be able to gain water rights. You will long term, but you'll actually have water rights right away that will be available there. Um not like tax increment financing where you have to wait for to build something and then the tax money starts coming in because you've built something and you have a higher tax amount. This is something that's a resource right there that would be captured. Great. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Councilor. Yeah. Um this is very short, just a commentary. So um when I came on council over 10 years ago, I think I mentioned this. We had a meeting. It was actually I believe with the Truckucky Meadows Regional Planning and with Tamwis and we we discussed the fact that the elected officials at that time felt that sewer was the number one issue affecting future growth. It wasn't water supply because we've done such a good job of reservoirs and recirculation so on. It wasn't land even though land is a conversation now but it was sewer because we just didn't have uh the capacity to treat the sewer coming out and the sewer cost to build a upgrade a plant add capacity so expensive so that is what we went through some really tough years here for the north valleys we almost declared a moratorum on development in the north valleys because we didn't have enough sewer capacity your team was very clever in developing this concept of the the flow shave where we'd send the sewer down to Tumbarf where we had capacity but that was very difficult on us too. We had to buy equipment pumps new pumps upsize you know do some policy issues and I just wanted to reflect a little bit again on that history that sewer to still today over 10 years later is still probably the number one controlling factor on our growth uh where the pipes are where the new building is where the treatment plants are where the reclaim can be used. So, I I really appreciate the time and attention on this topic and um I I really appreciated um Council Member Martinez's comments because I think that that is the biggest perception we have to deal with about growth, paying for growth, being super clear and transparent about who is paying for what because there's always a feeling of existing residents. Why do we keep paying? They don't understand that these things have a shelf life that the pipes are only going to be good for 20 or 50 years, whatever it is in a case. Ultimately, they have to be replaced. All the equipment gets old. It has to be replaced. Just like um replacements on your home, we have to do the same on the sewer. And just continuing to educate the public is going to be, I think, important part of the issue the mayor brought up earlier about public outreach. It's it's public outreach, but if you ask anybody, do they want to pay more? I have to believe that most of the people said, "No, I don't want to pay more." But they don't understand the connection. It's just like when people move here and they go, "Why aren't our parks taken care of?" We have a very low tax state and a very low tax city and so you don't get to have the same level of opportunity that you might have in other states and other cities. So everything costs and there's no free lunch and so we all have to pay for it one way or another. So um those comments, Mr. Martinez were very, I thought, on point and something that we need to continue to address. Okay. Thank you. Oops. Okay. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Um, okay. I'm going to wrap this up because this is just for discuss discussion and presentation and I'm going to head over to public comment. Thanks so much, John. Madame Clerk. Uh, Madame Mayor, we did public comment on item C1. Perfect. So, we're all done. No, there's no public comment. We took it before the presentation. Okay. Okay. Um, so we're moving on to item C2. We don't have to take any action. Actually, what we're going to do is we're going to jump to item D1. Um, and um, I just want to remind anyone sitting in the gallery to see Madame Clerk, so we can move those items up. so you're not sitting here all day. Uh with that being said, madame clerk, for item um it's a public hearing. So before we do that, um I'm going to ask you to um open the public hearing. Has uh all correspondence been um accepted? Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um for item D1, we did receive correspondence as three letters of support. Those have been distributed to the Reno City Council. At this time, we do not have any public commenters registered. Okay. Thank you so much. Uh, I'm going to then, um, kick it to Carl. I believe it's you. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Ordinance introduction, bill number 7307, case number LDC 25-000070, Bethl AM, church historic resource designation, ordinance to amend title 18, chapter 18.02 of the Reno Municipal Code entitled zoning reszoning or plus or minus 0.06 06 acre site for mixeduse downtown northwest quad quadrant to plus or minus 0.06 acres of mixeduse downtown northwest quadrant with the historic landmark overlay zoning district. The subject property is located at 220 Bell Street and has a master plan land use designation of downtown mixed use ward one. Okay, fantastic. I'm going to send it over to Councilwoman Taylor. Your word. Thank you. Does do any council members require a presentation? No. Okay. Uh I move to uphold the recommendation of the historical resource commission and refer the bill for a second reading and adoption. All right. Fantastic. Thank you so much. I have a motion. I have a second. I'll mayor before I just wanted to make a comment. I just wanted to um thank the members of the Bethl Ammy Church for pushing this forward for our historic resources commission because they took up the charge. they they have really um become quite active in terms of preserving very important historic landmarks, overlays, quadrants, and this is what makes our city so special. Right? If we ignore our history, we're just any city in America. By identifying our city, our important historic resources, we become a unique and special place. And I was so pleased to see this on the agenda. Thank you so much. Okay, Councilman Ree. Thank you so much, Madam Mayor. I just want to say uh thank you to the members of the Bethl AM church. I had the privilege of going out to the church maybe a year and a half ago with the congregation with pastor Pete but Deborah Whitlocks Lax and also former council member Jenny Breus. And so we had the opportunity really to tour the church and understand its its history. And the history is is very profound. uh it has a a deep connection to our uh black community here, but also the broader uh religious community in northwest Nevada. Um and so it's a very impressive thing and so excited about the HRC's work and certainly supportive of the designation. Okay. Fantastic. Councilman Anderson, Councilwoman Anderson, you have your light on. No, no, you're fine. Okay. Okay. No problem. Um and then also we've had the honor to all of us have worked with P debs, you know, um she's she is just one of a kind. And but um I just want to say thank you to everyone that's here um in support and just how much actually your support to the city of Reno has meant to all of us um over the years. So it's been a long history for us as well working with everyone. So thank you very much. Okay, that being said, um, and nothing. You're fine. Okay. Um, all, uh, I I think you gave me a motion. Um, all those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Thanks. Okay. Uh, we are going to, um, go into an attorney client and then we will come back for item C2. Okay. Madame Mayor, what time will we reconvene? That will be it. Let's see what time, Jackie. 1:15. 1:30. 1:30 to be safe. Thank you. Um, Madame clerk, you ready? Okay, we are going to head into item C2. This is C2. Uh, Madam Clerk, do you have any public comment on this item? This is a presentation discussion, potential direction to staff regarding initiation of a text amendment to Reno Municipal Code Title 18. Um, any public comment, Madame Clerk? Madame Mayor, just for the record, we're reconvening at 1:38 at this time. Council members Martinez and Anderson are absent. C. Council member Eird is present online. We do not have any public comment registered for item C2 and we did not receive any correspondents. Okay. Thanks so much. Does anyone require a public I mean a presentation on this item? Megan or can we Yeah. Can we get a brief one? Sure. Sure. Thank you. Director with development services. This is all tied to the police impact facility fee. This is a fee that we created about five years ago and the sole purpose was to help fund our new police station. Little bit of background. Our police station ended up final construction-wise costing about $75 million. And we used a number of different funding sources to to pay for that. The big one was a bond. Um we also paid a lot of cash. We had some grant money. We had ARPA funds. We had some capital tax funds. And then we created this police facility impact fee. So this is something specific to just help fund this police station. And it's required by state law to follow certain parameters. The way this works is that we collect money at the time of a building permit and we use that money to help pay down our bond. The bond is about $32 million. Now, the the police facility impact fee cannot be used to cover that entire amount. It can only be used to cover what we're considering to be new growth. So, we looked at what the the size of the police station was before, the size of the new police station. We can only use that money to cover the cost of the new square footage of the police station. So it amounts to a max of about $13 million. When we created this fee, the idea was that we would have it paid off within about 10 years. And so we put that into our zoning code. When we initially came up with the fee amount, it was based on the police station costing more around $33 million. So when we created this fee, we didn't know how much the police station was going to cost. Again, the final construction cost was 75 million. We initially thought it was going to be more closer to 33 million. So our idea that we would have the the impact fees paid off within 10 years was realistic, but then the cost of the police station went up drastically. So where we're at now, state law requires that about every three years, at least once every three years. We have to go back and say, are we in line to have these fees paid off within that time frame? And if not, we have to look at increasing the fee amount. Um, and we can also look at ex extending how long we collect these fees. So, let's just look at the trends. We've been collecting fees for about five years. Again, based on the assumption that we would have this paid off within 10 years, um, we have a certain amount that we need to be able to to cover. So far, we've raised a little over $2 million. So, in five years, we've raised a little over $2 million. The max we can collect is 13. So, we are definitely trending way lower than we thought we needed to be. When we do our budgets every year for paying down the bonds for that police station, we also look at how much comes out of the general fund versus how much we can use these police impact fees to cover. So, when we do our budgets, we anticipating about $342,000 a year would be what we need to collect in police impact fees to help pay down the bond. If we don't hit that number, we then have to pull more money out of the general fund. So again, this is a an interesting it's Yep. A lot of math here. So this is the trends in the last five years. Here's how we've been trending on police facility impact fees. The first two years, we were really really busy. We had the the COVID years, I would call them. So we had a lot of industrial development brought in a lot of fees. We had a lot of uh apartments and housing also during that window of time brought in a lot of fees but the last three years we have drastically gone down. That red line is our magic number of where we need to bring in fees each year. Otherwise we have to start pulling more money from the general fund. So our goal here is to try and raise at least 342,000 a year. This last fiscal year we did not reach that number. And again, looking at trends, building permit activity is is slowing down. But it's not just the number of building permits, it's the type of building permits. We require building permits for fences and for water heaters. No, we don't charge a police impact fee for those because there's no new uh police calls for service being generated from a fence or a water heater. When we look at some of the bigger permits, things like new industrial, new office, new apartments, that's really where we make more of the fees. Here's just a little snapshot so you can see what we would charge today. You came in for a building permit for a home, we would charge you $125. Each apartment that comes in, we charge $100. So these are pretty nominal fees. These were never intended to be really high fees that the development community had to pay. They were pretty pretty small in terms of compared to other fees that we charge such as sewer and water and building permit fees. So, um, the development community really didn't have a lot of issues when we created this fee because the fees were so small, but again, where we're at now is they're probably not being charged enough and we need to look at maybe extending the timeline for how long we want to collect these fees. So, we have kind of two things happening. One is we want to go out and we want to talk to the development community first and get their feedback. They may say, you know what, we're good with sticking to that 10-year timeline. after 10 years, we're not going to charge any more fees, which means we have to pretty much quadruple the fees that we're charging in order to get to that magic number. Or they may say, you know what, I'm okay with with paying these out longer than 10 years, understanding that we're still going to have to raise fees, but we won't have to raise them to the same degree. So today, all you have to vote on is yes, staff, go forward, start those discussions. we'll come back to you and let you know kind of the the different options that we presented to the development community and the option that they preferred. So, the recommendations in front of you and I'm available if you have any questions. All right. Thank you so much, Angela. Okay. Council Dora, any questions? Yeah, I just do. Um, I just want to make sure I truly understand. Are you going to be asking to raise the fee or are you asking to raise the fee now or what? Because you made the point. It's either charge a lot more in the 10 years or spread out the time frame. We need to do both. Oh, we need to both increase the fee and spread out the time frame in this item. My recommendation. Are we doing that in this recommendation? All you're doing is saying staff go forward and talk to the development community and give them options. Yes. Got it. Okay. Thank you. All right. Councilwoman Eert. Yeah. Um I do have some questions. So, I just want to make sure I understand the initial cost that we thought we were paying for the new police facility um ended up being about half or less than half of what it ended up actually costing. Is that accurate? No. When we initially bought the old RGJ building, we anticipated at that time early numbers. We we thought we would be able to build the new police station using that RGJ building for about $33 million. By the time we were done with construction, it was more around $75 million. So it more than doubled in cost from when we first looked at building the police station. Okay. So we underestimated at the cost and then they made the cost or the impact. That's correct. All right. Council neighbor. Oh, you're going out. in and out. Okay, hold on one sec. Hold on one sec. Oh, there you go. Oh, okay. That's cute. So, um, is there any world where we can extend the timeline but not increase the fee? because I hear all the time about people can't afford more. We have tariffs, cost of everything is going up. Um, is an increase in fee going to have the adverse effect of slowing down development? So, it doesn't actually increase the revenue coming in in this area where we need it, but actually slows it down further. I we we can one option is just the extend the timeline. Our big concern is this graph here. So, if we don't get enough money coming in on a year-by-year basis, we then have to pull more money out of the general fund to help pay back the bond. Okay. So, that that is an option. We can just say we're not going to raise the fees at this point. Yeah. Um we're going to extend them, you know, another a longer time frame. But next year, at the same time, when we look at this chart, if our building permit numbers are still as low as they have been, you're going to have to find more money in the general fund to cover the cost of the bond. Okay. I think I will have a couple more questions, but I don't want to Oh, wait, no, I still have a couple more seconds. So are is this something that will come back annually then to kind of reassess where we're at because of these projections kind of not coming in where we thought they would be? By state law, we have to come back at least every three years. So we did a quick check. It was about two and a half years ago that we did our last check. And so now we're trying to get in front of it because again the trends are alarming and given that we don't have any money in the general fund, we are just trying to be proactive and get in front of it. Okay. Would it be possible to maybe keep this on the radar and review it annually? Absolutely. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Anyone else have a question? No, it's okay. We're just Miss F, can you put the required motion back up? I did have more questions if nobody else did. Go ahead. Okay. Um, so I just want to make sure I understand because earlier we had a discussion of a refund of uh special assessment district um that was paid off and there was uh excess funds. So these impact fees, are they paid by the entire city of Reno? Is this like the special assessment district or it's only within a certain perimeter or how does this particular fee work? But I know it's it's only for um air um development that would require additional police service, but is there a perimeter on this? Yes. If you are in the city of Reno and you apply for a building permit, then you are subject to these fees. Okay. So, anywhere in the city of Reno? Yep. Correct. Sphere of influence. No, a sphere of influence also because we process building permits within the sphere of influence. Okay. Okay. And then how is that fee assessed? So, the fee is based on your use. Oh, whoops. Not necessarily square foot. Depending on what you have. If you're a house, it's based on how many how many homes. So, if a subdivision comes in and there's 20 homes, we would charge $125 per house. Okay. If you're a warehouse or office, we base it on your square footage. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much. Okay. Councilwoman Der, you have your light on. No. Sorry. Okay. Um, why don't you give me a motion, Councilwoman or or Councilman? either are. Yeah, I will. Um, I move to initiate a text amendment to title 18 to extend the termination date to collect the police facility impact fee beyond 10 years and to review the impact fee amounts. Okay, thank you so much. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Okay, Madame Clerk. All right, madame mayor. We're moving on to item uh E1 in ordinance introduction to be read by the city attorney. Okay, I'm going to send it over to the ever so famous Carl Hall. Thank you, Madam Moyer. Ordinance introduction, bill number 7308, an ordinance to amend title 6, chapter 6.14 of the Reno Municipal Code, entitled Truck Regulations, adoption and enforcement of federal and state regulations for motor carrier safety and other matters properly relating there, too. Okay, thank you so much. Um, may I get a motion? A second. Okay, I have a motion. I have a second. All those in Go ahead. Go right ahead. Are we going to have any kind of like rundown of what this is? I think we did. Oh, did I miss it? Last meeting. I think you Yeah, you might have missed it. Okay, but go ahead, ask. She's here. So, if you have any questions, go right ahead. Yeah, if we can just get a just a brief cliffnotes version of what this is. Yes, this is adding a ordinance to allow Reno police officers to con conduct uh enforcement operations for uh commercial vehicles, so big trucks within the city of Reno and on the highway. Okay, that was the missing piece, right? If it was on the highway, we were having issues with enforcement because RPD didn't necessarily have the jurisdiction. Is that the piece that we're trying to solve for? No, we're trying to solve for the whole thing. So, enforcement in the city, at the way stations, and on the highways. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you for that. And I have a question. Yeah. Thank you. And I misspoke. We did not do this last time that what we did last time was another one on um regulation of what? Vehicles. What's that? Aircraft. Aircraft. Yeah. Right. So, this one is about the trucks, and I'm just super glad to see it because uh I would like to know, are you also going to address the fact that our code requires them to have covered loads? So, for for gravel and rocks, we I often get complaints that they have either not covered their load or inadequately covered their load where rocks are spilling on the road, especially in the area near the developments. So there those are the people that call me or the people on let's say 395 that are having rocks come onto their vehicle. So how would we handle that? This is that would be covered in this code. Yes. But I mean would we like in the instant, you know, let's say it's me and the rocks are falling on my car. Um am I supposed to call the non-emergency number? Am I supposed to do a a Reno direct request assuming this passes? What do you Either one of those would work and then the most information that you can give us about the vehicle? About the vehicle. Yeah. And uh depending on where it is and what's happening will dictate whether or not we can do enforcement after the fact. It's more challenging to do because you're rarely there when these things are happening. They're happening all over the city. The other thing that's happening and I'm just curious and we brought this up and I happen to now have part of my ward is out at White Fur which is at where Patagonia is and one of the things that happens in these sort of semi-industrial areas is trucks just start parking overnight. I've seen it out in ward four just along the side of the road and it's not allowed and we've had complaints residents have called in these trucks have been parking here for you know two weeks is is that's I mean where I get concerned is you aren't there to observe it no police officer is and maybe by the time it's reported to Reno Direct they've moved on that's my big question is can you do enforcement on something that is reported to you yes if the car is there at the time if we don't see it there. We can't. But if you do have an area where these trucks are parking and they're not legally parking, those should be reported to Reno Direct so we can add it into our parking enforcement. Um, and we can send parking enforcement out into those areas. You have recently taken on parking enforcement now. Yes. Okay. But what about the truck dropping gravel? You're not going to be there. They'll have moved on. Maybe they're all the way to Truckucky by now. Yeah, they they might not be enforced on. It depends on the situation. A lot of times if you have damage to your vehicle, the you would want to get the license plate of that truck because then you can report it back to the insurance companies and that will help on that side of it because that truck is still has that responsibility. It's most often a crack in the windshield. Yes. Or a little dent. Y. So Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. I just I do want to reiterate you you did give council briefing correct? Not this time. Okay. I had to miss I just want to make sure everyone's getting their council briefing. Yeah, I was in trans. Jackie's a stickler about it, so I appreciate it. I just want to make sure because I don't want anyone I'm at 95% of them, but this particular agenda, I was in transit and could not attend. Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. I just want to make sure that everyone's getting the information they need. Um, okay. So, uh, I can you there's a motion and a second. Okay. I have a motion, a second. All those in favor say I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Um, Chief Nance, how are you doing? Good. Good. things are uh you're doing okay progressing. Everybody's doing well. It's can be expected. It's uh a lot, but we're working through it and um very grateful to everybody with community support and um all of your support and everybody that's reached out. We really appreciate it. So, thank you. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Fantastic job. I know it's been a really really really tough week. It's it's been a lot. It's been a lot. Things happen and we just get through it and continue on and we'll figure it out. I know. But thank you. Thank you. I want I appreciate you. Okay. All right, Madam Clerk. All right, Madame Mayor, this time we're going to open the redevelopment agency board. Um, I think I got it right here. Hold on. We'll take roll call. Yes please. Okay. Vice Mayor Taylor absent at this time. Council member Dor here. Martinez here. Eert absent at this time. Reese here. Anderson here. Sheavy here. Madame Mayor, you do have a quorum of the redevelopment agency board. Okay. Do you have any public comment on this item? We do not have any public comment registered. Right. Approval of the agenda. So moved. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Approval of the minutes. So moved. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Um item A51. No. Oh, sorry. B1. Oh, no. No. B1. Sorry. So, this is approval to purchase mobile vehicle barriers for special event road closures for Meridian Rapid Defense Group utilizing the General Services Administration contract. Okay. Hi, Rachel. How are you doing? Hello. Uh, Rachel McIntyre with um the redevelopment agency for the record. Yeah. Can I just tell you I just want to say so yesterday Rachel's pulling out. She has a flat tire and I was just like you girl, you're my girl. Cuz you know what she did? She pulled over and she pulled out like this device that like popped that tire right back up into shape. I'd be like crying calling someone please help. Please help. She was like such you were just a badass. I was like you're amazing. How did you do that? And then she she gave all the credit to her husband and said he just equipped her car with like a whole safety kit. Yeah. A whole safety kit. So good for you. Perfect timing. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Okay. So there you go. That's what everyone's Christmas gift should be. Safety kits in your car. $40 at your local Ace Hardware, ladies and gentlemen. There you go. And it saved you. But I was like, you're so cool. She's like, well, no. There's my husband. All right, go ahead. All right. Well, thank you so much, um, mayor, vice mayor, and counsel. Uh, we're here today to discuss the procurement of mobile vehicle barriers, uh, for street closures to help support uh, public events in public spaces. Reno is a hub for arts and culture, as many of us know. Um, our events are increasing. We're up over 36% year-over-year in new special events taking place. And with the focus that we have uh on activating our downtown core with more events specifically on Virginia Street, Fourth Street in our Midtown District, um we are running into the need to upgrade our equipment. We currently have just over 270 events that we've permitted to date. Um our road closure permits are also up over 40% year-over-year. We're seeing a rise of new events in locations where we don't currently have public safety equipment like Ballards for example. Um and we've identified some challenges that we have with road closure equipment and public safety meeting national standards. So we are proposing to purchase uh what are called mobile vehicle barriers. There are a number of key benefits uh that this particular product will deliver for us. first and foremost um is faster deployment. So each of these they're called trailer kits. Each of these trailer kits can be deployed by one streets team member in less than 30 minutes. So it's a pretty pretty remarkable difference compared to what we're staffing now. Um the faster deployment will reduce operational costs. We've heard from event promoters time and time again about the barrier to entry with promote uh with events. Yay. Good job. That's what I wanted to hear. So, uh, this equipment, not only will it increase public safety, um, and significantly impact the working experience of our streets team, who does a phenomenal job handling all of these closures, um, but it should make our promoters happy as well, um, as these barriers will decrease the cost um, for closing down a street. Um, as a result of a decreased barrier to entry for street closures for events, we expect to see an increase in event accessibility, increasing the number of events that we're able to produce in our public streets and spaces. Um, last but certainly not least, and arguably should have been my first bullet point, um, is public safety compliance. This equipment, um, unlike a lot of the equipment that we currently own, um, to facilitate road closures, this equipment meets national safety standards for vehicle intrusion mitigation, enhancing safety for attendees and staff at our events. Our activation efforts, as we shared, um, are a top priority as we look at revitalizing our downtown core. Uh these improvements directly support council's broader strategy for activating downtown, removing cost barriers to hosting events and aligning with the city's public infrastructure with best practices nationwide. We move to approve the RDA um in procuring the equipment for Meridian barricade. Okay. Thank you so much. I love love love this. How did you find this? How did you find them? So this was a team effort. So, in spring of 2025, uh, Meridian actually came out. They came to the city of Sparks and did a demo with RPD and RFD from Carson Sparks, um, our rural areas and and the city of Reno. And we've we've known that we needed to purchase this type of equipment because there's actually road closures that we can't facilitate. Um, for example, Fourth Street in front of J Resort, Fourth Street in the Brewery District, we can't approve currently approve for road closure events there. we don't have the equipment required and it just so happened that this um demo was coming to Sparks. RPD and RFD attended and um this was a whole team effort in really pulling this off. How many do we get? Yeah, so we'll be purchasing three full trailer kits. Okay. Um plus additional barriers that will not come on a trailer. Um M we worked with Travis, Tim, and their team. Uh they have a spare trailer that we're going to be able to purchase. So what that allowed us to do is actually increase the number of barriers that we're able to purchase. So we save money on the Okay, Travis, are you good with that? So but like Okay, that doesn't hold on a second. How many are in a trailer? Yeah, each trailer kit. So, the three trailer kits come equipped with eight barriers. Um, and then we purchased, don't quote me on this, I'll have to um look back at the quote. Quote should be in your packet as well. Um, but we purchased an additional 12 barriers. Okay, awesome. Any questions, Councilwoman? Well, I'll just say so you have 24 plus 12. Is that what you're saying? Okay. And can with that is enough to close off Fourth Street. It is. Yeah, we use Fourth Street as the test case because that's the street that we currently don't have equipment that we can approve road closure. But I mean you you also have to close off the side streets coming into the fourth street. Okay. and and like would like three or four of these close off the street on either end and then you need like so it depends on which section of fourth we're closing. Um for example, offbeat music festival is happening in the brewery district. They're going to be closing Evan from Fourth Street from Evans to Valley. Um so these barricades will work to close at Evans at Valley and then alongside either um side of the train tracks. Gotcha. All right, sounds very good. Um I'm happy to make a motion. Second. Sure. Any questions from council? No. Okay. All right. Motion to approve uh the redevelopment agency board to purchase this equipment from Meridian Rapid Defense Group for these barriers. Okay. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. All right. Good job. Oh, uh, one question, Rachel. How long will it take to get You're like three years? No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm just kidding. The fun part that I left off of this is we were talking public safety, but the really fun part is we get to brand them. So they're they're beautiful. They'll be branded with the city of Reno's logo. Um and so we're going to do the branding. It'll take about 60 days um from the date we say we're ready. I just want to make sure it's not like years. No, no, no. About 60 days on procurement right now. Uh might be a little bit longer with the branding, but should be in place by this fall and definitely before next event. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Um, madame clerk, what are we? We're on item C1 for redevelopment agency board comments. Okay. Any uh board comments? There are none. We don't uh no action and um any public comment on item D. We do not have any public comments. Item E. Well, let me make a comment on um I think it was on C. I just wanted to bring up that Sternberg issue again and if there is an opportunity to look at redevelopment funds, okay, to be used for those that I want to encourage our staff to do that. Okay. Um, thank you. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Okay. Good job. All right. We're uh Now, where are we at, madam? We're on item H1 on our regular city council agenda. Heading back uh to item H1. Um any comments from council? The only thing um and I I'll put it in in an email um to you Jackie just about certain crosswalks. Um so I'll send you an email on that and then um Sure. Go. Are you I'm ready. Oh, okay. Uh and go ahead and give me a motion. Councilwoman Dor. No, I was not a motion. Um isn't this our comments? Yeah. Yeah. So I just want to make two comments. One, I had the pleasure working with our Reno Fire Department uh recently on deploying goats to chomp the vegetation. This one was uh on Evans Creek. It was the Evans Creek um estates homeowners association that initiated the effort back in they called me back in March and I hooked them up with our fire department. They were able to get a grant uh to do the goats. Um we had the launch. It was incredibly successful. A good turnout from the media. Um, everybody loves goats, right? What I didn't realize, a few things I didn't realize. 250 goats. It's not like 10. Um, six hurting dogs. Two guardian dogs that come from Turkey. Uh, so I would ask like my great Pyrenees, that's a guardian dog. These are even more specialized. Um, and then this couple from Smith Valley that go around and their big ask was they love doing it. They're going to be here for 45 days chomping the stuff up there. Um I I will recall the council, some of you weren't here. I was very concerned. We got reports when we were spraying washes through our maintenance and operation group that some of the drift the spray was drifting on to our residences and they were unprepared to get like a faceful of chemicals. And so we instituted a number of changes. one, and I'm not sure if all these changes are still in place, but they began publishing when we would spray chemicals. Number two, um they bought backpack units, so instead of broadly spraying chemicals, it was more targeted. Number three, they bought um the type of mowers that they could um manage in this environment so that they could maybe mow instead of spray chemicals. And then this is a next evolution. This is the fourth year we've been using goats and um the goat herders have offered to do more. I talked to Chief Cochran and it's just all about the money, right? How much money we have. But I hope that we'll do a close assessment of what it's costing us to go spray all those washes, buy chemicals, have staff overtime, etc. Um and and is this more cost-effective and can we use this more broadly? Um the second issue is I said I would bring up the reclaim water. Um, I think at some point we should bring back to council a decision or discussion andor later a decision on uh preserving some of the uh treated effluent to be used for reclaim water use in the north valleys. um if there's going to be developments out there or um common areas or as the gentleman uh Bob Lner brought up whole development that he's trying to deal with um maybe 90% of the water could go to become new freshwater and 10% or 20% could be reserved for um reclaimed water use on landscape areas, parks, etc. So just asking for a future policy discussion on that before too many developers are told no, right? Because we have to balance all of our goals with trees, playgrounds, agoods, as well as good water. So I'd like to have that discussion at some point. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Uh with that being said, I think we have our final motion. Well, I don't know if anyone else. Go ahead, Miguel. Sorry. Yeah, no, no worries. I didn't want to pull the item for consent, but I just wanted to thank our staff for including some guard rails on item B6 for the charging stations over at the Reno the public safety center and Moana Springs aquatic facility. It looks like there are some provisions that will help us maintain and track that fee increase if there ever is any from EVAs coming to those sites. So, I just wanted to appreciate staff for including some of those guardrails and protecting our customers as they look at renewable sources to protect our environment. Thanks. Thank you, Miguel. I really appreciate that. Councilman Anderson, do you have anything? Um, you know what? I do want to bring up um there are a couple things that were brought to my attention. um and was um I wanted to do and and I didn't learn of this until our break, but um you know, we had a previous mayor, Mayor Griffin, who um has been in the hospital and he has been um extremely ill and so I wanted to um have the council, you know, say a prayer for him. And then also we just lost a very very dedicated city employee um Sergio Gutierrez and some of you I was fortunate to meet him um a couple of times and he was just a wonderful man and he was here for 10 years almost I think it was was it 10 years I think it was close to 10. So he was very very dedicated. So, at this time before we leave, I would like to everyone take a little moment of silence, but say a little prayer. Um, you know, because these these people meant a lot to our city in so many ways. They shaped our city, right? Mayor Griffin for sure and and Sergio. So, um, let's take a moment of silence to honor them right now. All right. Thanks everyone. I I appreciate you and uh it's been a tough week for our entire city and all of you guys. I know you have constituents that you're also um working with every single day. So, I want to say thank you to each and every one of you. And Chief Nance, she's over here. you can't see her on the camera, but um thank you for being so kind and caring. The first phone call when you called me and Jackie called me um just your level of compassion both of you was really really remarkable and it's the kind of compassion that you want to see out of the people that lead your city. So, I'm grateful to Chief Nats and to um City Manager Bryant because um it it also not that I you know, go girls, but I will tell you um it's it and it's not I'm not saying anything bad about the males that were in these roles before, but I will tell you it's a if it's different. It's calming. Um it's incredibly compassionate and pathetic and I just want to say I noticed that right off the bat and I and I really really appreciate you in a time whenever um nerves and emotions are are you know completely spent and um really hard and challenging to deal with but um I I was so grateful. So thank you for your support and how you've um navigated this really tough situation. So thanks. All right everyone, we will see you back here. Madame Mayor, so just for closing public comment, we do not have anybody registered. Have not received any correspondence on item K. Motion to adjurnn. Well, before we do, one more thing, Madame Mayor, under H. I just wanted to point out that at 3:00 today, which is in like 40 minutes, um the Truckucky River Flood Authority is having a public workshop with the public about what kind of recreation they should entertain in the Milan project. I'm glad you're bringing this up. Yeah. So, uh the two big proposals are uh make it all trails. Okay, just a really a natural area. Uh the second proposal is trails plus playing fields. It could be soccer, lacrosse, whatever. And um there really is quite a split amongst the public. Some really want to see it completely restored and be more like an oxbow type park and others really want to integrate the two. The plan initially going back 15 years has been to integrate the two, but you know, sentiments could be changing. So, I have encouraged everyone I know to attend that meeting. It's all virtual. It's a all Zoom meeting. Anybody can attend. It's at 3:00. If you go on the flood website, I've put it on my Facebook. So, as Mr. Ree several times, so that you can just join the Zoom if you want to. Uh, I will probably just listen in because I want to hear the debate myself um, personally. But it's also going to be recorded. I asked them to make sure it was recorded and posted in a public place so we could look at it later, you know, if anyone wanted to. So, that's happening. And this will very well determine the future of that site. And, um, how do you access that? I'm sorry. You might have told me, but I didn't. Well, you're not on Facebook, but um, I could send you the Probably not. Save my mental health. Get off Facebook. Fake book. But anyway, um it is good for some things like putting maybe not my mental health. Yeah. But anyway, on the flood project on right on their website, they under working group. Okay. They have the meeting link and maps and actually a whole um presentation that people could preview before the meeting, which I thought was proactive, you know, so people could see what was being said and prepare their comments. And I can send uh you a link if you're interested. Okay. if anyone's interested. Yeah, that would be great. Um, you could post it on your Facebook page. I did already three times, but I can do. All right. Thank you so much. Okay. All right. Um, anything else, madam clerk? Just a motion to adjurnn. Thank you so much. Okay. Um, Councilman Martinez. Yeah. Motion to adjourn. All right. And I have a second from Councilwoman um Anderson, who's quiet over there, too. So, they get to close out the meeting. Thank you so much. All those in favor say I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Good job. Thanks everyone. Okay.