August 31, 2023 Bloomington Planning Commission Meeting
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. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 31ST MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVEHICH IS A QUORUM. THE COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. OUR WORK IS INFORMED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE VARIOUS DISTRICT PLANS AND THE CITY CODE . FOR ITEMS THE COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CITY CITY COUNCIL HAVING FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. THEY HAVE ONE SUCH ITEM TONIGHT. IN OTHER CASES THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN APPROVE OR DENY AN APPLICATION AND SUBJECT TO AN APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE WE HAVE TWOTEMS OF THATATURE TONIGHT. FOR EACH ACTION ITEM THERE WILL BE A STAFF REPORT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEN TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD ASK THE PLANNING MANAGER TO INFORMATION ON REMOTE TESTIMONY. YES CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING AND ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS CAN TESTIFY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT IF YOU'RE WATCHING AT HOME YO CAN ALSO CALL TO TESTIFY AND WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN INTERNET ACCESS CODE FOLLOWED BY THE PASSCODE AND WE WILL HAVE THIS THESE NUMBERS SCROLLING THE SCREEN DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS IF YOU'RE WATCHING AT HOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DAYCARE FACILITY AT AN EXISTING PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. THE PRESENTATION IS WITH PLANNING TECH ASPECTS. I WILL TURN THE MIC OVER TO YOU. GOOD EVENING. GIVE ME 1/2 . OKAY. SO ITEM ONE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A BRIGHT KID CENTERED DAYCARE LOCATED IN AN EXISTING PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AT 8600 BLOOMINGTON AVENUE SO SO THE PROPOSED SITE IS OUTLINED AND RED AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AND IS ALSO HOME TO SEVEN HILLS ACADEMY WHICH IS A K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL THEROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND DESIGNATED QUASI PUBLIC AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS BOUND BY A MAJOR COLLECTOR 86TH STREET AND THREE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A DAYCARE AND A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL LIMITED USE IN R-1 ZONING DISTRICT. SO A CONDITIONAL LIMITED USE MEANS THAT THE MAXIMUM AOWED SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 25% OF THE TOTAL FLAIR FOR OF THE BUILDING. THE LEFT IMAGE SHOWS THE DAYCARE LOCATION OUTLINED AND READ IN COMPARISON TO THE WHOLE BUILDING AND SO SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DAYCARE ONLY CONSTITUTES APPROXIMATELY PERCENT OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING THERE CURRENTLY A NON CONCURRENT USE AGREEMENT THAT LIMITS THE PROPERTY USE MIX IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH PARKING SO THE REQUIRED DAYCARE PARKING OF 21 SPACES IS NOT A CONCERN FOR STAFF PROVIDED THAT THERE IS CONTINUED PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OF THE NON CONCURRENT USE FOR THE OPERATION AND EVEN THOUGH THE PARKING LOOKS LIKE IT IS MORE THAN THE PARKING PROVIDED SO A RESIDENT BROUGHT A TO STAFF ABOUT TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT RELATED THIS SECTION ON THE SCREEN AND INSTITUTIONAL USES THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE RESIDENT IS IN NOT IN THE PACKET BUT IS AT YOUR THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER CREATED A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC EVALUATION THAT YOU ALSO SHOULD SEE AT YOUR C IT'S THAT LARGE PIECE OF PAPER SO THE ESTIMATES ON THE TRIP GENERATION SHE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED STUDENT COUNT BELOW THE THRESHOLDS FOR TRAFFIC LIMITATIONS PROVIDED THAT THERE IS A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN IN PLACE THEREFORE ORDER TO DISPERSE TRAFFIC FROM BLOOMINON AVENUE SOUTH THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE PLAN ON THIS SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE ARROWS SHOW THAT THE CAREGIVERS WILL ENTER OFF OF EAST ADA STREET DROP THE CHILDREN OFF AND EXIT ONTO BLOOMINGTON AVENUE . SO AS FAR AS SIDEWALK GOES STAFF HAD A COUPLE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION. SO THE FIRST CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE ROUTE THE CHILDREN WOULD TAKE TO GET TO THE PLAYGROUND BECAUSE PLAYGROUND IS UP NORTH. THE APPLICANT ADDRESSED THIS RECEIVING PERMISSION TO USE THE NORTH EXIT OF BUILDING SO THAT CHILDREN CAN USE THE ALREADY EXISTING CROSSWALK TO GO TO THE PARK. THE SECOND CONCERN REGARDING SIDEWALKS IS FOR CAREGIVERS WHO MAY WALK THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND THOSE MAY BE DROPPING OFF ON FOOT OR BIKE OR WHATEVER THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE SIDEWALK NETWORK OUTLINED BLUE WITH THE RED DOT BEING THE DAYCARES ENTRANCE AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THIS ENTRANCE TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK NETWORK. THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS STAFF'S RECOMMENDED ROUTE TO CONNECT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK WITH A CROSSWALK AND THEN ALSO A SIDEWALK IN STRIPED BLUE. THIS WOULD CREATE A SAFER ROUTE RATHER THAN CROSSING THROUGH THE DRIVE AISLE TO GET TO THE SIDEWALK. THERE ARE OTHER CODE SECTIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE BUT THEY MET REQUIREMENTS SO I WON'T DISCUSS THEM AND WITH THAT I'M OPEN QUESTIONS AND I WILL PUT THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. YES. COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR HAS BACK MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE YEARS IN WHICH A DAYCARE IS OPERATED AT THIS SITE IN THE PAST WAS THERE SIMILAR PLAN AROUND CIRCULATION IN 8580 793 AND 96 2000 OR 2004 AND WHAT WAS THE CIRCULATION FOR THE DAYCARE AT THAT POINT? CHAIRPERSON COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE I DON'T KNOW. I'LL DEFER TO PLANNING MANAGER MARK HOGAN I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS EITHER. YEAH CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE AS WEL WE CAN RESEAH TT BUT I RECOLLECT IF THERE WAS A A MANAGEMENT PLAN AT THAT TIME THEIR FOR STAFF PLANNING TAKE US BACK IF YOU COULD CLARIFY ALSO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 25% THRESHOLD FOR DAYCARE IS FOR DAYCARE ONLY OR DOES THE SCHOOL USE ALSO FACTOR INTO THAT 25% OF THE TOTAL BUILDING CHAIR ROHMAN THAT IS FOR THE DAYCARE ONLY. THANK YOU. YES COMMISSIONER CURRIE MAKE SURE I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A CONDITION REGARDING CONCURRENT USE BUT IS THERE ANY EXPECTED TIME OF OPERATION FOR THE DAYCARE SPECIFICALLY CHAIRPERSON ROHMAN COMMISSIONER CURRIE I AM NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE EXACT HOURS OF THE DAYCARE WOULD BE BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND SO THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND I CAN SPEAK IN WHATEVER YOU WISH BUT YOU DID HEAR THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT HOURS OPERATION ALTHOUGH THE OPERATING HOURS ARE IT'S A 4:08 A.M. TO 4 P.M. AND THAT'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE THE COMMISSIONER TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL? NO. OKAY. OF COURSE. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN THANK YOU CHAIR GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR IS THAT ALWAYS WEEK THAT YOU PLAN TO OPERATE? YEAH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT YES. COISSIER MCGOVERN IS THAT EXCLUDING HOLIDAYS OR ANYTHING OF LIKE WITH THOSE HOURS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD SIGN YOUR NAME ON THE SHEET I THINK WE HAVE IT PROBABLY. BUT JUST TO BE SAFE, I THINK THAT THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC SO AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ? OKAY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE ON IS STAFF SEEING NOBODY IN PERSON AND NOBODY ON LINE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED SECOND THANK YOU. WE HAVE AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED THE DISCUSSION THIS ITEM COMMISSIONER COOKSON THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I SEE MR. ROBERTS IS HERE THIS MORNING IF I COULD ASK HIM TO COME UP AND JUST DISCUSS THE LATE TESTIMONY WE HAD HERE FOR YOU KNOW, JUST A SLIGHT BIT MORE DETAIL AND WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE ON THE TESTIMONY CERTAINLY IF HE WOULD BE WILLING BUT IT'S GOOD TO GO DEEP ON TRAFFIC WILL DO JUST TRY TO STAY AWAKE IF THE OVERHEAD IS AVAILABLE SO THE LAKE THE WE RECEIVED LATE IN THE PROCESS WAS REGARDING THE TRIPS IN THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE SITE A FEW YEARS AGO AND PLANNING MANAGER MARGARET GARD CAN SPEAK TO WHEN THIS CALL WENT TO EFFECT THERE WAS CODE CHANGES THAT THE CITY MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT OF THE USES WE WERE SEEING WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS INSTITUTIONAL USES IN SPECIFIC DIDN'T OVERLOAD TRAFFIC ON THESE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT WAS FOUND TO BE SOMEWHAT DELETERIOUS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ONCE TRAFFIC REACHED ABOVE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS. AND SO THE REASON IT WAS THE INCREASE THAT WE HAD WERE RELATED HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS BEING GENERATED BY THIS WHEN THE CODE WAS REVISED INITIALLY THERE WE GO THERE WERE THREE PROVISIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE THREE TESTS THAT DEVELOPMENTS HAD TO MEET AND. I'LL JUST GO A LITTLE BIT INTO TWO TRIPS AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT THOSE THERE'S THAT COMMON TERM TRIP THAT YOU MIGHT THINK I'M GOING TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, I'M GOING TO DRIVE OVER THERE, I'M GOING TO PICK UP SOME CHIPS AND SALSA AND I'M GOING TO DRIVE BACK. I DID A TRIP TO THE GROCERY STORE THE WAY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THINK ABOUT TRIPS IS IF YOU CAN ENVISION SITTING IN A LAWN CHAIR ALONG A AND IF A CAR GOES RIGHT TO LEFT YOU CLICK YOUR CLICKER AND THAT'S ONE TRIP GOES THE OTHER WAY IT CLICKER CLICKER THAT'S ANOTHER SO WE SORT OF DOUBLE COUNT TRIPS AND SO THE THINGS I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SWITCH YOUR THINKING INTO THAT THAT'S WE FIGURE OUT TRIPS AND FOR SOME REFERENCE ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN TRIP RATES A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN NORTH AMERICA GENERATES ABOUT TEN TRIPS A DAY. IT SEEMS HIGH AT FIRST BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT YOU DRIVE YOUR CAR OF YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU GO TO WORK, YOUR SPOUSE DOES THE SAME THING COME BACK. THAT'S FOUR TRIPS YOU RUN TO THE GROCERY THAT'S TWO MORE YOU'RE UP TO SIX. MAYBE YOU HAVE A TEENAGER THAT DRIVES OR YOU TAKE THEM TO SPORTS, YOU'RE UP TO EIGHT. TEN IS FAIRLY EASY SO THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL TRIPS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OVER TIME TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVING NO HOBBIES OR THINGS THAT HAVE COLLECTED TRIPS FOR ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT USES FROM JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT DOES THAT MEAN A LOCAL STREET IN BLOOMINGTON AVERAGE IS ABOUT 500 TRIPS A DAY SO TH'S A PRETTY QUIET STREET IF YOU'RE STANDING THERE TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOR YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON A STREET LIKE THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY LONG CONVERSATION WITHOUT A CAR PASSING COLLECTOR STREETS. THIS WOULD BE 100 SECONDS XEROX'S SOME OTHER ONES THEY GET UP TO 5000 CARS A DAY SO THAT'S BUSY OR YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE ON A ROAD LIKE THAT. ARTERIALS LYNDALE AMERICAN BOULEVARD 20000 TO 40090 EIGHTH STREET ACROSS THE 35 W THAT WEUST HAD A STUDY ON IT'S ABOUT 30,000 CARS A DAY IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIER ONES IN THE COUNTY ALL THE WAY UP TO YOUR FREEWAYS 60000 TO 200000 TRIPS A DAY. SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME CONTEXT OF OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT . SO THE CODE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE A FEW YEARS AGO HAS THREE CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET AND I'LL JUST SORT OF GIVE THESE A SHORTHAND LABEL. ONE, DOES IT ADD THREE OR MORE 300 OR MORE TRIPS A DAY TO A LOCAL RESIDENT STREET AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK ON A REGULAR BASIS? THIS IS THE DAILY TRIPS IT STARTING TO ADD TRIPS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO FEEL A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BY LITTLE BIT IT DETERIORATE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. THE SECOND TEST IS IT DOES IT ADD 100 OR MORE NEW TRIPS ON A LOCAL STREET SUCH THAT THE TRIPS ADD UP TO ABOUT 1000 TRIPS A DAY? THAT'S A LOW NUMBER THAT THOUSAND TRIPS A DAY. BUT WE GENERALLY TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE ONCE YOU GET ABOVE A THOUSAND TRIPS A DAY PEOPLE START TO BECOME A LITTLE LESS COMFORTABLE ON THE ROAD, THEY FEEL LIKE IT DIMINISHES QUALITY OF LIFE. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT NUMBER IN THERE. AND THEN THE LAST CRITERIA IS DOES THE EXPANSION PRODUCE 100 OR MORE TRIPS PER HOUR IN THE PEAK HOUR ON A REGULAR BASIS? SO WHEN THIS THING IS AT MAX IS IT PRODUCING MORE THAN 100 TRIPS AN HOUR? AND THE REASON THIS IS THAT WE DO SEE SOME USES THAT HAVE A REALLY HIGH TRIP PRODUCTION BUT ONLY CERTAIN TIMES A DAY. HEALTH CARE FACILITIES ARE ONE WHERE THEY TEND TO THEIR SHIFT CHANGE TENDS TO A LOT OF TRIPS AND IT DOES IT LIKE 7:00 IN THE MORNINGND THEN 3 IN THE AFTERNOON. SO IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL RUSH HOUR BUT IT CAN GENERATE ENOUGH TRIPS TO BE FRUSTRATING TO NEIGHBORS. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE TESTS THAT EACH DEVELOPMENT HAS TO PASS WHEN THEY ARE GENERATING TRIPS IT'S INSTITUTIONAL USE ON TO A LOCAL. SO FOR THE DAYCARE AND THIS SPREADSHEET IS IS PROBABLY IT WOULD BE BETTER IF I PUT THIS IN A MAP ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE NO LESS INTERESTING FOR SURE THE THE TRIP GENERATION RATE DAILY FOR A DAYCARE IS ABOUT FOUR A LITTLE OVER FOUR TRIPS PER STUDENT SO YOU HAVE 50 STUDENTS MULTIPLY THAT BY 4.09 ,THAT'S A TRIP THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE DAILY. WE ALSO KNOW HOW MANY TRIPS IT'S GOING TO GENERATE IN THE PEAK HOUR BECAUSE AGAIN TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO THINK ABOUT SO. WE CALCULATE TRIPS THE IF YOU TAKE THEN THE PROPOSAL FOR 90 STUDENTS AND YOU LOOK AT THE PEAK HOUR WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT HUNDRED TRIP THRESHOLD WELL BELOW WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT IS CONDITION THREE. SO I'M STARTING BACKWARDS HE CONDITION ONE WAS BACK TO OUR 300 OR MORE TRIPS THIS DAYCARE GENERATES ABOUT 370 TRIPS IF IT'S UP TO 90 STUDENTS. WELL THAT COULD OVERLOADED IF THEY WERE USING A SINGLE DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD CLEARLY THAT THRESHOLD IF ALL THE TRIPS WERE COMING OFF OF BLOOMINGTON AVENUE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE BRINGING TRIPS IN . THEY'VE GOT GOOD NETWORK AND THEY'RE BRINGING TRIPS FROM AROUND THE AREA OR AROUND THE BUILDING AND SO IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO OVERLOAD BLOOMINGTON AVENUE. SO TY MEET THAT CRITERIA AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY IS THOUSAND TRIPS PER DAY THRESHOLD AND EXCUSE ME MY THAT'S THE VERY BOTTOM HERE AND IF YOU ADD THE NEW TRIPS THIS DAYCARE WILL GENERATE TO THE EXISTING TRIPS ON THE STREET, YOU DON'T EXCEED THAT THOUSAND TRIP PER DAY THRESHOLD. SO THEY MEET THAT CRITERIA TOO AS WAS ALLUDED TO MISS HESS BOOK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WITH THIS IS A CIRCULATION PLAN THAT VALIDATES WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH TRIPS AND THAT'S WHY COMMISSIONERS WE'VE ADDED THAT CONDITION THAT THE THIS USE IS SUBJECT TO SITE AND CIRCULATION PLAN ONCE WE GET THAT WE'LL REVIEW IT IT NEEDS TO BE A CREDIBLE SITE AND CIRCULATION PLAN IT NEEDS TO BE SELF-REINFORCING IT NEEDS TO USE DRIVER BALANCE IN A WAY THAT WE'RE TYPICAL AND CUSTOM IN NORTH AMERICA WHERE WE DRIVE ON THE RIGHT IT NEEDS TO BE CREDIBLE AND THE CITY ENGINEER WILL APPROVE THAT ONCE WE'VE MADE THAT DETERMINATION SO THAT WE CAN SAY YES THIS DAYCARES COMPLYING WITH IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVERSELY ON THE TRAFFIC. MR. CORKTN I HE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IT DOES MR. ROBERTSON MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY ON THIS APPLICATION AND I THINK IT'S FOR US TO BE THOROUGH. SO THANK YOU MR. ROBERTSON. EXCELLENT INFORMATION DISCUSSION ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. COMMISSIONER CURRY, HAVE THERE BEEN THANK YOU HAVE THERE BEEN DOES CITY LIKE NOTE ANY COMPLAINTS HISTORICALLY ON THESE ROADSROM D TO TRAFFIC AT ALL BRING OUR EXPERTS BACK UP CHAIR ROOM AND COMMISSIONER CURRY FROM THE REVIEW THAT WE DID THAT I DID WITH MY SUPERVISOR WE NOTED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING REGARDING THIS OF ASSEMBLY OR SCHOOL IN THE PAST OTHER DISCUSSION RESTRICTED. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. AFTER FROM MR. ROBERTS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ANALYSIS OF THIS I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS APPLICATION WE HAVE A VERY GOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN THE CITY AND I TRUST THAT PROCESS AND WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE DOES NOT GIVE ME ANY CONCERNS AND I THINK THIS IS A TERRIFIC USAGE AT THIS SITE AND I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF IT. COMMISSIONER GOTTESMAN THANK YOU CHAIR. I WOULD COMMISSIONER FULTON'S COMMENTS I THINK HAVING GOOD QUALITY CHILD CARE FOR OUR OUR YOUNG CHILDREN IS IS GREAT AS WELL AS HELPING SUPPORT YOUNG FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY IS IS KEY SO I THINK I THINK THAT THIS APPLICATION IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC STUDY I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT AS WELL . COMMISSIONER GRAY THANK YOU CHAIR YOU KNOW, I MEAN LOOKING AT THE I MEAN THE SITE HAS A SCHOOL IT TODAY I BELIEVE IT AND THIS USE IS NOT GOING TO BE AND THERE SO I GUESS I MEAN IF THERE'S NOT COMPLAINTS TODAY AND THE ANALYSIS IS CORRECT YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH IT BUT IF CLARIFICATION I THINK IT IS CONCURRENT WITH THE SCHOOL USE BUT NOT WITH THE CHURCH USE. CORRECT. CHAIRPERSON ROHMAN COMMISSIONER CURRY CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISLEAD. IS IT ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO WILL WATCH US REGULARLY? COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU CHAIR THI CHURCH ACTUALLY IS ON MY WALKING ROUTE SO I WAS REALLY INTERESTED THE THE CIRCULATION PLAN AND I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HERE AND THE TRAFFIC COUNTS PRIMARILY BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL A SIGH OF WHEN I GET TO THE CHURCH BECAUSE IT HAS SUCH A GREAT SIDEWALK UNLIKE A LOT OF THE OTHER PLACES IN THE THE AREA WHERE I'M WALKING IN THE STREET WITH MY POPS. SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF THAT SIDEWALK THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT APPLICATION, A GREAT USE AND HOPEFULLY WILL KEEP A LOT MORE KIDDOS IN BLOOMINGTON THANK. I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT A LITTLE MORE DEEP DOVE INTO THE TRAFFIC MOSTLY IF JUST TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IT BUT ALSO TO HELP FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I THINK AS ENGINEER ROBERT SAID YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO THIS IS THEIR EXPERTIZE. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT KNOW THE TRIP COUNT ON BLOOMINGTON AVENUE MIGHT BE 693 INSTEAD OF 691 OF COURSE, BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE MANY YEARS OF EXPERTIZE AND YOU KNOW, AS IMPERFECT AS THINGS ARE IT'S PRETTY DARN CLOSE. AND SO I'M CONFIDENT IN THIS. I ALSO WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE A MORE INTENSE USE MAY NOT BE AS DESIRABLE FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. I THINK A TIMEHATERE MAKING BETTER USE OF PROPERTIES THAT OTHERWISE SIT EMPTY FOR A VAST MAJORITY OF THE WEEK I THINK IT'S BETTER WE ARE A DEVELOPED CITY AND SO OUR FUTURE IS AND IS THROUGH INTENSITY OF USE THAT ADDITIONAL EXPANSION AND SO I THINK THIS MEETS THOSE TESTS FOR ME AND AM IN FAVOR OF THIS AS WELL. MR. GOLTZMAN THANK YOU CHAIR. IF I MAY I'D TO MAKE A MOTION PLEASE IN CASE P.L. 2023-119. HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, I MOVE TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR DAYCARE FACILITY AT 8600 BLOOMINGTON AVENUE SOUTH SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES. THIS IS A DECISION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS RECEIVE BY 4:30 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 6TH. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT FOR PHASE TWO OF A TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS IN THE SOUTH AND SENIOR PLANNER SCENARIO IS THE STAFF PRESENT ON THIS ITEM. MR. CHAIR. YES, COMMISSIONER. I DID JUST LISTED FOR THE MINUTES THIS APPLICATION SOME APPROVALS FROM THE MCC, THE METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION. I AM EMPLOYED BY THE MCC BUT I HAVE NOTHING PROFESSIONALLY. NO PROFESSIONAL INVOLVEMENT WITH THOSE TYPES OF APPROVALS. AND SO I DON'T FEEL THERE'S A CONFLICT INTEREST TONIGHT BUT I DID JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. STATING THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A HAPPY TO PRESENT PHASE TWO OF THE SIC TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A FEW YEARS NOW YOU MIGHT REMEMBER GOING THROUGH PHASE ONE PHASE ONE IS COMPLETE AND I'LL TOUCH ON THE VARIETY OF PHASES FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS BUT THE PROPERTY IS SEVERAL PROPERTIES BUT I JUST WANT TO NOTE 8051 STAIRWAY USED TO BE 20TH AVENUE SO THERE WAS THERE WAS A ROAD NAME CHANGE THERE. SO THIS IS MORE OR LESS WHAT THE SITE LOOKS TODAY. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT WAREHOUSE PRODUCTION AND OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT WAS COMPLETED I BELIEVE LAST YEAR AND CEQ IS LOOKING TO EXPAND IT VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAN WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE SCREEN BETWEEN THE FAIRFIELD AND WINSTEAD WAY IS PART OF THE SEC PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR TECHNOLOGY? WELL, WE JUST WE JUST HEARD ABOUT MCC FOR A MOMENT AND THE AIRPORT HAS A LOT OF INFLUENCE ON WHAT CAN AND CAN'T HAPPEN IN THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT AND WE DO HAVE AIRPORT HEIGHT LIMITS THROUGH THE AIRPORT ZONING STANDARDS AND THAT IS LIMITING TO SOME DEGE A YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY PHASE 2A4 STOREY OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S REALLY MAXIMIZING THAT AVAILABLE AIRSPACE IF YOU WILL, TO DEVELOP THE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FAA REVIEW AND POTENTIALLY MAKE APPROVALS FOR TEMPORARY VARIANCES FOR CRANES AS WELL AS JUST DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING THROUGH AN AIRPORT ZONING PERMIT WITH THE CITY. SO THAT SAID IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE THAT WE'RE ALL OF AND THE APPLICANT IS WORKING TOWARDS TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE CAMPUS PDP YOU CAN SEE PHASE ONE IN BLUE AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THAT'S GIVEN THE AERIAL I SHOWED YOU A MOMENT AGO BUT THEN THE GREEN IS PHASE TWO AND THAT AT THAT ENTAILS A 144,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AS WELL AS A MULTILEVEL STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT PHASE TWO. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S STILL AREAS IN THE CAMPUS THAT YOU KNOW ARE WOULD BE REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AND HERE YOU COULD PHASE THREE WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION AND WAREHOUSE FACILITY ON THE CAMPUS ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE PHASE FOUR AND SO PHASE FOUR IS A REAL SIGNIFICANT SECOND OFFICE EXPANSION NOT AS LARGE AS PHASE TWO BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT SOME ADDITIONAL WAREHOUSE AND PRODUCTION SPACES AND THEN ADDITIONAL AN EXPANSION OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO THIS ON THE SCREEN REPRESENTS THE FULL BUILDOUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS GOING TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS SO THIS IS PHASE TWO THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS PHASE TWO YOU CAN SEE THE THE BUILDING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE OR NORTHWEST CORNER THE WINSTEAD WAY LINDELL INTERSECTION SO IMMEDIATE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE BUILDING IS THE CONFLUENCE SCULPTURE IF YOU IF THE REFERENCE ALSO IN TERMS OF LIKE ACCS YOUNOW AESS WOULD LARGELY REMAIN THE SAME THERE THERE IS AN EXISTING ACCESS POINT ALONG LINDA LANE THERE'S ALSO AN ACCESS POINT ALONG WHAT'S NOW WINSTEAD WAY THAT'LL IT'LL CHANGE FROM SOME GUEST PARKING TO A LOADING AND A FIRE A FIRE WAY BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE MAJOR CHANGES IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AGAIN SO THIS KIND OF JUST ZOOMS IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITE PLAN AND YOU'LL YOU CAN SEE HOW THE BUILDING IS LOCATED FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE STREET WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR WITH THE SOUTH DISTRICT PLAN. WE WANT BUILDINGS TO FRAME THE STREET TO CREATE A MORE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE'S AMPLE SIDEWALK WITH FOR FOLKS THEIR DOGS OR IF THEY WORK THERE ANYMORE WHAT THEY WANT TO SIT OUTSIDE ON A NICE DAY THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO SIT AND SO IN AS PART OF THIS PLAN THERE'S A PUBLIC PLAZA SPACE RIGHT ON THE CORNER WHICH THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS I'LL SHOW YOU. BUT IT'S VERY WELL VEGETATED HAS OUTDOOR SEATING AND IS RIGHT ALONG THE STREET SO THAT REALLY IMPROVES THE URBAN CHARACTER OF . OUR SALT LAKE DISTRICT AND WE ALWAYS LOOK AT LANDSCAPING AND SO SUFFICE IT TO SAY THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU KNOW, GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT STANDARDS ARE AND ESPECIALLY ALONG NOT PUBLIC SPACES BUT THEN MANY SPACES FOR FOR CUSTOMERS AND GUESTS OR EMPLOYEES THERE CLEARLY HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THOSE AMENITY SPACES AND D'T ANY TOO MANY COMMENTS ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AGAIN JUST A CLOSER LOOK AT LANDSCAPING AND IF YOU CAN SEE YOU KNOW IF WE CAN SEE MY CURSOR HERE SO THIS IS THE PLAZA AREA RUN ON THE CORNER THAT REALLY COULD BE A VERY NICE AMENITY NOT ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES BUT THEN VENDORS ANYONE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO WE ALWAYS LIKE RENDERINGS AND I HAVE AND THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SEVERAL OF THEM AND THEY WERE INCLUDING YOUR PACKET THERE WAS A NOTE A ROOF SIGN I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW ROOF SIGNS ARE NOT PERMITTED AND SO THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE RENDERINGS AND THE TWO DIMENSIONAL BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND THE APPLICANT WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF MATERIALS, THE THE PRIMARY FACADE WE HAVE MIXED USE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS THIS IS THE ALEX DISTRICT SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET ONE OF THOSE IS TRANSPARENCY ALONG ALONG CERTAIN STREETS LYNDALE IS CONSIDERED A PRIMARY STREET AND SO THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT OF AT LEAST 50% TRANSPARENT BEEEN TWO FEET AND TEN FEET ABOVE GRADE. SO IT'S A VERY, VERY DETAILED STANDARD. THE GIST OF IT IS YOU WANT TRANSPARENCY AND ALONG THE PEDESTRIAN WAY ALONG STREET LEVEL OR SIDEWALK LEVEL AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 70% SO WELL ABOVE THE REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY ON THE EAST ELEVATION THAT HAS A LOWER REQUIREMENT THIS IS A SECONDARY BUT NONETHELESS THERE'S STILL A MINIMUM AND THAT'S 25% ALONG WINSTEAD WAY THE PROPOSAL IS IT'S 26% BUT STILL MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENT SO WE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WITH THAT AND HERE'S AN IMAGE OF KIND OF THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE LOOKING SOUTHEAST YOU CAN SEE THE SKYWAY CONNECTING PHASES ONE AND TWO SO THAT THAT'S A NICE FEATURE OF YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO THIS GUY WAS IN BLOOMINGTON BUT NICE CONNECTION WITH PHASE ONE AND TWO AND THEN IT ALSO HAS ENOUGH HEIGHT TO ACCOMMODATE FIRE TRUCKS UNDERNEATH IT BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE SERVING AS A FIRE LINE TO UNDERNEATH THE ROAD UNDERNEATH THE SKYWAY SIMILAR IMAGES LOOKING EAST FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF THE THE GUEST PARKING IN THE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE I DID HAVE SOME COMMENTARY ON THE SIGNAGE IT IS A LITTLE TOO BIG AND ALSO WOULD REDUCE THE TRANSPARENCY AMOUNT ALONG THAT ELEVATION SO WE WE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT ALTERNATIVES AND WE THINK THERE'S A VIABLE SOLUTION TO HAVE THAT PRESENCE THE BRANDING PRESENCE ALONG THE STREET YET NOT HAVE IT BE SIGNAGE THAT IS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY ALTERNATIVES THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING THROU AND WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY AS WELL AS. YOU KNOW OUR ABILITY TO APPROVE A SIGNED PERMIT. BUT AGAIN THIS THIS IMAGE PROVIDES A PRETTY GOOD LOOK AT THAT THAT CIVIC PLAZA CIVIC PLAZA AREA A LOT OF TREES, SHRUBS AND SITTING SPACES AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE IMAGE OF A PARKING STRUCTURE THEY'RE NOT AS NOT AS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT BUT IT IS RELEVANT. THE PARK IS STRUCTURED. WE DON'T HAVE MANY DESIGN STANDARDS FOR PARKING STRUCTURES. THEYAN BE PRECASTONCRET THEY TYPICALLY THIS PROBABLY WILL BE IT'S NOT ANYTHING PROBABLY NOT ANYTHING ARCHITECTURALLY ADVENTUROUS BUT NONETHELESS IT IS SOMETHING WE DO LOOK AT AND THE EXACT MATERIALS OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS STILL YOU KNOW IS STILL AT PLAY. THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE AUTHORITY ON EXACTLY HOW THAT HOW THAT'S GOING TO TURN OUT THOSE PARKING ITSELF CEQ IS PROPOSING WHAT WE BELIEVE IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING. YOU CAN SEE THATHE TABLE TH WASNCLUDED IN STAFF REPORT NOW THIS IS FOR PHASES ONE AND TWO IN TOTAL SO WE WE ADDED UP ALL THE OFFICE BETWEEN PHASES ONE AND TWO THE PRODUCTION FACILITY, THE WAREHOUSE FACILITY AND THEN CEQ WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONFERENCES EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THEIR FLOOR PLAN AND. SO THEY WE INCLUDED PART OF THAT AS A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY IF YOU WILL FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT WHE WE HAVE O THIR OCCUPANCY. SO ALL IN TOTAL THAT A REQUIREMENT OF 847 STALLS AND THERE IS SOME PROOF OF PARKING THAT'S SHOWN SUSPECT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO CONSTRUCT IT BUT THAT'S ABOVE THE REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR PARKING AND THINK IT WILL WORK REALLY WELL FOR THE SITE AND WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WE DID A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING WITH PHASE ONE IN TERMS OF REZONINGS PLANNING. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPER PLAN WAS APPROVEDUT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS JUST THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PHASE TWO AND THE MOTION BEFORE YOU REPRESENTS UP. THANK YOU FOR THIS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION QUESTIONS STAFF COMMISSIONER GOTTESMAN THANK YOU CHAIR ONE QUESTION I HAD AROUND THE PARKING AND THIS IS MAYBE MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION JUST WAS IT CONSIDERED WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE PARKING THE REQUIREMENTS WAS IT CONSIDERED THAT THIS IS RIGHT VERY CLOSE TO MASS TRANSIT AND THE BLUE LINE AIRPORT IS VERY CLOSE AS ALL OF THE HOTELS JUST THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC COUNTS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE WALKING OR TAKING MASS TRANSIT THE TO THE LOCATION VERSUS PARKING. SURE YEAH SURE. RUNNING A COMMERCIAL. GOTTESMAN YEAH, IT'S IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE SUPPORTING A RELATIVELY MODEST REDUCTION FROM PARKING REQUIREMENT. IT'S ABOUT 8%. SO WE THINK THAT'S MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR RIGHT NOW WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH AN 8% REDUCTION. I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE ROBUST ANALYSIS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE PARKING STRUCTURES ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND WHILE FOR THIS PHASE TWO PARKING STRUCTURE WE THINK IT'S EVEN TEDIOUS TO BUILD IT YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SIZABLE. THE PHASE FOUR STRUCTURE MIGHT BE A LOT SMALLER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE PDP TODAY BUT WE'RE JUST NOT SURE BUT TO ANSWER A QUESTION DIRECTLY THAT IS SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ANALYSIS BECAU NONE WANTS TO HAVE PARKING THAT'S ATTEMPTED ALL THE TIME. MR.. ALBRECHT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES HAS THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY THOUGHT ABOUT POTENTIAL DIFFERENT USES OF THAT PARKING TO BE NOT AS USED READILY MEANING IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE PARKING LOT THAT ARE THAT ALLOW IT TO BE CONVERTED EASILY I'M SUR JEROME AND CHRIS ALBRECHT YOU KNOW I BELIEVE IT HAS LIKE A FLAT LEASE THE DESIGN TODAY THAT TO BE EASILY CONVERTED TO ANOTHER USE THAT SAID YOU KNOW THE THE THAT'S BETWEEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND LYNDALE LANE IS QUITE DELIBERATE WHERE THAT COULD HYPOTHETICALLY BE ANOTHER USE ON THAT SITE AND NOT A PARKING STRUCTURE ADDITION SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT ESPECIALLY IN THE FUTURE AS WE FIND OUT WHILE THE PARKING DEMAND IS WAY LOWER THAN OUR CODE REQUIRES AND MAYBE WORK IS DOING SO WELL THAT THEY WANT MORE OFFICE SPACE OR SOME OTHER USE WELL MAYBE THAT THAT THAT RECTANGLE BETWEEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE LINDELL IS NOT PARKING AND IT'S YOU KNOW OFFICE USE OR SOME OTHER SOME OTHER USE IS A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU. I THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THIS IS IT TRUE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT NOWADAYS THAT I MEAN IN THE OLD DAYS PARKING WERE BUILT MORE LIKE THIS AT THE ACTUAL PARKING LEVELS BUT NOW MORE OFTEN IT'S THAT THE PARKING ARE LEVEL AND THEN THERE'S THE LIKE AT THE MALL AMERICA AND OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU SEE YOUR INCLINES ON OUTSIDE OF IT THE MORE OF THE INNER AREA IS FLAT THAT KIND OF REUSE IS THAT MORE COMMON OUR TERM AND I DON'T KNOW OKAY THAT'S MORE COMMON IT'S IT'S DONE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALL BEEN TO THE MALL AND YOU HAVE THE SPEED RAMPS. YEAH. YOUR FLAT FLOOR PLATES FOR THE PARKING STALLS THEMSELVES AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SPEED RAMPS TO GO YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN IT. IT IS CERTAINLY DONE UNDERSTAND IT TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE OF COURSE AND THEN IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT REUSE YOU HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE. YOU HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY THINK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH OF IT OR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE SERVICES IN THE FUTURE AND HAVE TO DO IT ON THE FRONT END OR ELSE YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST DUMP THE WHOLE THING. COMMISSIONER CURRY THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION AND ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT COMES WITH FINANCIAL GUARANTEES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S A TERRIBLY CRUCIAL CAREER. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND SO GLAD WE HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION TO ANSWER IT . CHAIR COMMISSIONER CURRY TRANSPORTATION DEMAND TEAM MODEL REQUIRES LET ME BACK UP JULIE LONG I'M THE CITY ENGINEER WITH THE FIRST PHASE SIC WASN'T REQUIRED TO DO IT PLAN BUT WITH THE SECOND PHASE THEY HIT THE THRESHOLD OF 350 VECLES. I TNK TT'S THE NUMBER SO THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO REDUCE TRIPS FOR SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES AND SHOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. A LOT OF COMPANIES WILL DO THAT BY FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING A BUS PASS, TRANSIT PASS AND OTHER THINGS. I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS GETTING UP TO RUN UP HERE AND I FORGOT WHAT THE QUESTION WAS . COULD YOU ASK IT AGAIN PLEASE? NO WORRIES. IT'S JUST WHAT IS I MEAN SO THERE'S A FINANCIAL GUARANTEE INVOLVED IN THIS TIME WHAT WHAT IS A FINANCIAL GUARANTEE FOR THIS LOOK LIKE? IT'S I MEAN TO BE HONEST I DON'T REMEMBER THAT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PLAN AND THEN THERE IS A BOND OR GUARANTEE THAT WE HOLD IN ENGINEERING SO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PLAN AND THEN UPDATED ANNUALLY AND SO WHEN THEY COME OUT COMPLIANCE THEN WE HAVE LEVERAGE AGAINST THIS FINANCIAL SOURCE. WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY CLAIMED ANY ONE OF THEM. PEOPLE JUST MAINTAIN THAT PLAN . OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER COCHRAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. SUN SCENARIO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ROOFTOPS SAYING NOT BEING ALLOWED. WHAT ABOUT THE AC MARRIOTT NOT MORE THAN A BLOCK OR TWO AWAY. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? CHAIRMAN CHRIS CATON VERY GOOD QUESTION. THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED MASTER SIGN PLAN AND ROOF. ROOF SIGNS ARE NOT PERMITTED BUT WE HAVE THIS MECHANISM IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT TO SEEK FLEXIBILITY FROM THE SCIENCE STANDARDS AND THAT REALLY RESULTED OR CAME OUT OF THERE VERY SINCERE DESIRE TO HAVE A ROOFTOP CUBE. THERE WERE ALSO SOME OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN STRICT CODE . IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOTEL ITSELF THERE ARE SOME CABINET STYLE SIGNS AND THEN SOME CHANNEL LETTER SIGNS THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT PERMITTED BY CITY CODE . SO THE MASTER SIGN PLAN IS A MECHANISM TO SEEK SOME OF THAT FLEXIBILITY. IT DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF PLAING AND IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT THEY COULD PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE REVIEW IN A SEPARATE APPROVAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RESTRICTED. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW DO WE HAVE ANY STANDARDS FOR SCREENING WHATEVER THESE ELECTRICAL BOXES OR WHATEVER THAT SEEM TO POP UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK? WE DO ALL THIS WORK TO CREATE THESE PLAZAS AND ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS AND RIGHT THERE IN SOUTH LP THERE'S ESE AWFUL THERE'S SIX OR EIGHT IN A ROW SOMETIMES ARE THESE ELECTRICAL BOXES IS IT WE CAN'T THEM FOR MAINTENANCE REASONS IS THERE ANY STANDARD CAN YOU JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND A MORE GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL QUESTION? YOU KNOW, AS OF NOW W DON'T HAVE ANY EXPLICIT STANDARDS FOR THOSE OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY'RE THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN UTILITY EASEMENTS AND UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE A LOT OF OF WELL WELL LANE BECAUSE THEY ARE ELECTRIC BOXES XCEL HAS REQUIREMENTS ON HOW TO ELECTRIFY THEM SHOULD THERE BE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE SO HAVE TO HAVE TEN FEET CLEAR IN THE FRONT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF BOX IT HAS TO HAVE THREE OR SIX FEET THE SIDES OR THE BACK AND SO THEN IT STARTS GET TO BE A REALLY LARGE SCREENING AND THE SCREENINGS MORE ATTRACTIVE OR LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN THE BOX. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WORKING WITH OUR ART TO PUT MORE OF THE MAKE THEM BEAUTIFUL BUT YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY SCREENING ISN'T ALWAYS THE OPTION AND THEY'RE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE DUCT BANK IS CAN'T BE IN THE BACK THERE IN FRONT OF THE TYPICALLY BECAUSE OF COST CONSIDERATIONS SO IT COSTS X TO PUT THE TRANSFORMER IN AND THEN Y TO GET IT TO THE BUILDING. SO YOU WANT IT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO MANAGE YOUR COSTS. SO THAT'S THEY END UP WHERE THEY END UP. OKAY, THANKS. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. WILLHE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NOW? ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HAVE YOU COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER CURRY THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND IF YOU COULD YOURSELF JUST SO WE KNOW WHO WE'RE ADDRESSING. MY NAME IS DAVE MCGINTY, FACILITY MANAGER FOR SEC. NICE TO MEET YOU DAVE. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE I THINK SOME OF THE ZONING OR THE CONDITIONS. THERE'S AN AIR WHICHT LOOKS LI BY YOU KNOW, PHASE FOUR YOU GUYS WILL MEET SO THE CITY WAS VERY FLEXIBLE AND ACCOMMODATING LOWER FAILURE TO START. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW IS GROWTH GOING COMPARED TO WHAT WAS EXPECTED BY THE CITY WHEN THIS WAS STARTED? WE KIND OF ON TRACK. ARE WE BEHIND SCHEDULE AT A SCHEDULE? IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT SOMETHING NEW IS BEING BUILT IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT JUST THAT IT JUST CURIOUS. YEAH FROM A HEADCOUNT PERSPECTIVE WE'RE RIGHT ON WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK WE WE WERE TRACKING ABOUT 6% YEAR OVER YEAR HEADCOUNT GROWTH AND WE'RE STILL ON TRACK ON THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW EBBS AND FLOWS DURING A PARTICULAR YEAR DEPENDING ON AND REVENUE. BUT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK RIGHT ON TRACK, YOU KNOW AS FAR AS PHASE TWO IS CONCERNED ,THE LOCATION REALLY ALLOWS US TO BRING MUCH MORE INTO INTO MINNESOTA FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE WORLD. SO THAT'S THAT'S REASON FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF A TRAINING FACILITY IN THIS IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS LABS SINCE WE'RE A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY WE'RE INVESTING SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY IN ROBOTICS THAT'S KIND OF OUR OUR MAJOR GROWTH FOR OUR COMPANY SENSORS FOR ROBOTICS. SO INVESTING HEAVILY IN ALL THAT IN THIS THIS PHASE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. THANK OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER GOLDSON THANK YOU CHAIR. MR. MCGUINTY YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE ON SITE TODAY AND WHAT YOU EXPECT AFTER PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE COMPLETE? NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. YEAH. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE AROUND 200 AND THAT YOU KNOW PART OF OUR STRATEGY WITH OUR PRODUCTION FACILITY IS TO FILL IN WITH CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE WE WE RETAIN OUR OUR EMPLOYEES SO WE WE NO TURNOVER AND YOU KNOW FROM AN EMPLOYEE PERSPECTIVE SO WE HAVE AROUND 200 AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 200 ORE CURRENTLY HAVE ANOTHER 200 WEST BLOOMINGTON THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE PHASE TWO. GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO AT THIS TIME I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ? OKAY. SEEING NONE AND ALSO SEEING THAT ALL THE ONLINE PARTICIPANTS ARE STAFF. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED DISCUSSION ON THETEM . COMMISSIONER COOK TEN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. BEFORE I GET INTO MY THOUGHTS ON THIS PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM SUPPORTIVE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HIDE THESE ELECTRICAL THINGS THAT'S ON THE STREET. I THINK THIS PROJECT AS A COUPLE IS JUST KIND OF BREAKS MY HEART THAT WE TRY SO HARD TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I DRIVE THROUGH MY SOUTH OF NEIGHBORHOOD HERE AND IT'S JUST FULL OF THEM AND DRIVES ME KIND OF . AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE POINT THAT THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION I BELIEVE IS WORKING ON SCREENING THESE THINGS BUT IS MY OBSERTION JUST AS A OBSERVER N NECESSARILY. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS CORRECT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONES WE PUT THE STICKERS ON OR THE ART ON ARE ALL THE ONES THAT ARE THE SAME SIZE AND SEEMS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE ONE SIZE THAT WE CAN DO THESE TWO AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SIZES THAT DON'T SEEM TO GET SCREENED LIKE THERE'S A PARTICULAR PAIR OF THEM. THAT ONE LOOKED TERRIBLE AND ONE DIDN'T AND WE SCREENED ONE THAT LOOKED OKAY AND LEFT THE ONE THAT LOOKED TERRIBLE. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF I MAY THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION TO LOOK FOR TO SCREEN ALL OF THESE THINGS INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONES THAT WE'REURRENTLY SCREENING BECAUSE THERE MORE THAT COULD REALLY USE SOME SCREENING. SO I HOPE WE CAN LOOK FOR OPTIONS TO BEAUTIFY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN THE END NOT RELATED DIRECTLY TO THIS BUT I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR US TO PUT PERHAPS ON SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW WE DO A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CODE THAT DO BECAUSE IT CREATES A BETTER COMMUNITY THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY COST EFFECTIVE RIGHT. WE REQUIRE INDOOR TRASH STORAGE REQUIRE ROOFTOP SCREENING WE ETC. ETC. AND SO IT MAYEORTH SOME ALYSIS ABOUT THE IMPACT. THERE WAS A STANDARD ABOUT WHERE THOSE THINGS NEEDED TO BE. YEAH CHAIR I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT IS MAYBE A WHAT WE CALL MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ITEM OR SOMETHING LATER IN THE YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEGALLY WE HAVE IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BUT MAYBE SOME ANALYSIS ON THE STAFF LEVEL TO TELL US WHAT OUR OPTIONS COULD BE IS SOMETHING I WOULD PROPOSE PLEASE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM . COMMISSIONER CURRIE I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT SOMEBODY'S BUILDING THEIR OFFICE BUILDING OR TRYING TO GROW THE CITY SO JUST HELP SET CONTINUES TO DO WELL AND GROW AS THEY PLANNED ON THE ON THE SITE. COMMISSIONER GOLDSON THANK YOU CHAIR I WOULD ECHO THAT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE OF THE LOCATION AS WELL AS BRINGING JOBS INTO. BLOOMINGTON YOU KNOW FOR SUCH A LARGE COMPLEX IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE EMPLOYEE BASE IS ABOUT 400. I DO QUESTION THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IF HAVE 400 EMPLOYEES IN THE PARKING RAMP IF I REMEMBER WAS 800 600, 800, 800 DOES THAT PLUS FIVE OKAY. 500 PLUS SEEMS THAT WE HAVE LOT OF OVER PARKING WHICH I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE WHICH I THINK IS GREAT AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE BUILDING. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROPOSALS AND CONTINUATIONS OF PROPOSALS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US THAT HAVE CITED INCREASED COSTS AND AND THINGS BEING DELAYED. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THIS. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO COMMENT TO IS I REALLY YOU KNOW THAT THEY'VE THOUGHT OUT GREEN SPACE LANDSCAPING . I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY DEVELOPED AREA. I LOVE THAT THEY'VE PUT IN THAT PUBLIC USAGE FOR PLACES FOR THEIR FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GO AND SIT OUTSIDE, HAVE LOTS OF GREEN SPACE, LUSH LANDSCAPING SO I REALLY WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT MIXED MATERIAL DEVELOPMENT BUT THEN ALSO ON BEING GREEN AND AND WHEN WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN THE SUMMER. SO OVERALL THINK THIS IS GREAT A I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT TONIGHT. COMMISSIONER COOKED IN LITERATURE THANK YOU MR. SUN SCENARIO TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER GOLDSTEIN'S PARKING CONCERNS. CAN YOU REMIND ME OR INFORM US I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS SOME STAKE IN THIS PARKING RAMP AND IT MAY BE CO USED BY CITY OTHER JUST THAT CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT? YEAH CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER CAPTAIN FIRST I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ON WHAT THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY HAS A STRON FINAIAL STAKE IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THE CITY SUBSIDIZES DEVELOPMENT IS BY PAYING FOR THE STRUCTURE PARKING BUT IT DOES COME WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT HAS TO BE OPEN THE PUBLIC ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO START THEM ALL OR YOU'RE GOING TO AND YOU DON'T WANT A PARKING AREA YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARK AT SIX. YEAH SO THERE IS THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY INVESTING IN THESE PARKING RESOURCES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS PHASE TWO MOVING AHEAD. I YOU KNOW, GLAD THAT BUSINESS IS GOOD. I THAT ALTHOUGH MANY OF THESE JOB THEY'RE JUST A RELOCATION AND CONSOLIDATION NEVERTHELESS THEY COULD HAVE BEEN RELOCATED AND CONSOLIDATED ELSEWHERE SO AND I HOPE THAT SOME OF THAT FEDERAL INCENTIVES AND THAT ARE GOING TO THIS INDUSTRY CAN HELP PHASES THREE AND FOUR HOPEFULLY COME SOONER THAN 2030 2035 AS I THINK WE READ IN THE LINK SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? CHRIS JERICHO TEN YEAH. THANKS. SORRY MR. SECRETARY. ONE MORE QUESTION. SO THE PHASE C THIS IS PHASE TWO. THE CURRENT PROPOSED PARKING RAMP GOES A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF LYNDALE AND THEN THEY LEAVE THE SPACE BETWEEN AND THAT RAMP SORT OF VACANT NOW UNTIL POSSIBLY 2032 WE HAVE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS ETC. FOR WHAT TO HAPPEN THERE ADMITTEDLY YEAH I THE SITE TODAY COULD BE BETTER WHERE THE OFFICE BUILDING IS GOING TO GO. DO WE HAVE ANY STANDARDS OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT LAND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING. JERRY ROHMAN CONSTRUCTION WE DO WE DO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING STANDARDS AT WHERE WE WANT TO SEE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING ALONG LIKE THE BASE OF BUILDING OR CALLED FOUNDATION PLANTINGS. IT ISN'T LIKE A TRADITIONAL PARKING LOT WHERE IN PARKING LOTS WE HAVE PARKING WITH TREES AND PARKING L SCREENS SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAN HERE THERE IT IS SURROUNDED BY LANDSCAPING THAT OBVIOUSLY BE AT GROUND LEVEL. THE THE IS A DELICATE BALANCE YOU KNOW THE THE I GUESS THE VACANT AREA SUPPOSED TO BE NATIVE GRASSES SO NOT TURF WHERE HAS TO BE MOWED CONSTANTLY AND IT IS UNDERSTANDABLY DELICATE BALANCE BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT SO YOU WANT A LANDSCAPE THE SITE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK ATTRACTIVE BUT ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE THE MATERIAL. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A DELICATE BALANCE WHICH YOU SAY WE DON'T ALLOW TURF. NO, I JUST THINK AS OPPOSED TO TURF SO THEY'RE PROPOSING OF A MIXTURE OF GRASSES OR NATIVE NATIVE PLANTINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER DISCUSSION OR I SHOULD HAVE BEEN YEAH. MR. SHERRY JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, I GUESS I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SITE. WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL THREE QUARTERS OF IT AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE LAST QUARTER BECOME AITTLE OVERGRO OR ANYTHING ELSE. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WANT TO KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL SO NOTHING WE CAN REQUIRE. BUT I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR ON THAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER SYSTEM CONVERSATION HERE I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. RIGHT. SO AS WE GET A SLIDE HERE, I GO AHEAD. OKAY. MR. CHAIR. IN CASE PEOPLE 2023-113. HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVED TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PHASE TWO OF THE TECHNOLOGY A FOUR STOREY OFFICE BUILDING AND PARKING STRUCTURE AT 8050 WINSTEAD WAY AND 8051 26TH AVENUE SUBJECT THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND THANK YOU AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO EXCUSE ME TO APPROVE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PHASE TWO AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES THIS IS A FINAL DECISION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS RECEIVED BY 4:30 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 6TH. MR. CHARLES ACTUALLY THIS WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL ON THE 18TH. I WILL DULY NOTE THAT I SHOULD NOT FOLLOW MY NOTES AND THIS WILL BE APPEAR ON THE SEPTEMBER 18TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTION AND THAT'S BECAUSE I WAS READING THE WRONG ITEM ITEM THREE WHICHS A FINAL DECISIO BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, A MAJOR REVISION TO FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR IT EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND CONVERSION TO A RETAIL FACILITY AND PLANNING TECH NAVARRO HAS THE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS JUST GIVE ME ONE MINUTE. I'M ALSO TAKEN MINUTES SO THERE YOU GO. OOPS. OKAY. SO ITEM THREE IS A I DON'T KNOW WHYE'S DOING THIS. THERE YOU GO. ITEM THREE IS A MAJOR REVISION FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BUILDING ADDITION AND EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO CONVERT AN OFFICE BUILDING TO A RETAIL FURNITURE FACILITY. SO THE SUBJECT SUBJECT HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING AS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND MOST OF THE MOST OF THE BUILDING IS VACANT RIGHT NOW. THE SITE IS ON SIERRA ONE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS LITTLE STRIP WHICH IS THE ACCESS TO THE STREET AND THAT IS SOME SEE AS ONE COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT. THIS SITE IS GUIDED FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THE PROPERTY USE ADJACENT TO THE WEST IS A RESTAURANT AND A HOTEL AND THEY ARE ALSO ZONE, R ONE D C AS ONE IF WE LOOK AT THE EAS WE HAVE A RESTAURANT, A PARKING LOT AND RETAIL USES AND THERE ARE SONGS HERE ONE WHICH IS REGIONAL. IF WE LOOK AT THE SOUTH OF THE THE SITE THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TO THE NORTH WE HAVE THE INTERSTATE FOR 94. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE I KNOW THAT IS REALLY HARD TO SEE BUT. I WILL BREAK DOWN THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION AND THE NEXT SLIDES. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE HERE THAT THE ABSOLUTE WILL REMAIN THE SAME THE PRIMARY ACCESS FROM THAT WILL BE FROM AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND THE TO NORTH ACCESS DRIVE TO SOUTHTOWN DRIVE WILL PROVIDE LIKE A SECONDARY ACCESS TO SERVE THE DELIVERY LOADING DOCKS SO ON THE NORTH SIDE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 40 AND 76 SQUARE FOOT TWO STOREY ADDITION ON THE WEST WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE ADDITION WILL BE A SINGLE LOADING DOCK FOR INTERNAL DELIVERIES ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEY WILL HAVE SHOWROOM SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT'S IN HALF TRASH INSIDE THE BUILDING AND SUPERSEDE CODE THE TRUST MUST BE INSIDE THE BUILDING SO THE APPLICANT IS ADDING OR IS PROPOSING TO ADD AN ENCLOSED TRUST ROOM ON FIRST FLOOR SO THAT WILL BRING THE TRUST REQUIREMENT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE . THERERE SOME PARKING MODIFITIONS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RECONFIGURE THE LAYOUT OF THE PARKING LOT BE PARALLEL PARALLEL TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING ALSO PARKING. THE PARKING THE EAST LOT LINE WILL BE REMOVED WHICH WILL PROVIDE MORE AREA FOR SOME WATER TREATMENT AND LANDSCAPING. THERE REQUIRE PARKING FOR A LARGE FOR THESE LARGE ITEMS RETAIL FACILITY IS 163 PARKING SPACES THE APPLICA IS PROPOSING 146 STALLS AND 17 PROOF OF PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE THE OF THE SITE. SO WITH THE PURPOSE 140 46 STALLS IN THE 17 PROOF PARKING SPACES THERE WILL BE PROVIDING 163 PARKING SPACES WHICH IS COMPLIANT. A PROOF OF PARKING MUST BE APPROVED AND FILED THE HENNEPINOUNTY PRIOR HENPIN COUNTY PRIORO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT AND THIS IS A CONDITION STAFF ADDED FOR THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY SHOW YOU IN THE FUTURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS EXPLORING WILL BE EXPLORING TO CONNECT THE HOBBY LOBBY AND TARGET PARKING LOT WHICH IS IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN POINT WHICH IT WILL BE RIGHT HERE IF IF IS APPROVED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE EAST SIDE THE CONNECTION BE WILL BE TO ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO ACCESS EXIT THE SITE BEFORE THE SIGNALS INTERSECTION ON AMERICAN BOULEVARD . THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING SOME EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS. HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. SOME OF THE AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING AND THEROPOSED EXTERIORODIFICATIONS. THE SIX BUILDING IS MOSTLY COMPLETE COMPOSES BRICK STUCCO AND GLASS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE EXISTING MATERIAL AND INSTALL STONE PRE FINISHED WOOD PANELS AND GLASS. ALL THE PROPOSED MATERIALS ARE CODE COMPLIANT. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS NEW BUILDING DESIGN WILL SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT IMPROVE THE CONDITION OF THE EXISTING SITE AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING. THE SITE ISISSING SIGNIFICANT LESS LANDSCAPING MATERIAL FROM THE APPROVED LANDSCAPING FROM 1992. SO WITH THE CEREMONY APPLICATIONS MOST OF THE REMAINING LANDSCAPING WILL BE REMOVED AND A SUPERSEDED CODE IS ESTIMATED A TOTAL LANDSCAPE REQUIRED OF A 80 TREES AND 200 SHRUBS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 80 TREE 80 TREES AND 202 SHRUBS. THEY ALSO WILL BE KEEPING SOME OF THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING WHICH IT WILL BE OVER THE COVE REQUIREMENT AS FARS LIGHTING THEY PROVIDE ITO FOR A METRIC AND LIGHTING IS ALSO CODE COMPLIANT ACTUALLY FROM THIS PICTURE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE THE TRASH WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND IS RIGHT HERE ON THE WEST SIDE AND AGAIN AS I SAY BEFORE, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING A TRASH ENCLOSURE INSIDE THE BUILDING WHICH WILL BRING INTO COMPLIANCE THE TRASH REQUIREMENT. AND WITH THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS AND EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS ARE COMPLIED WITH CRITICAL REQUIREMENTS AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IS IN THE MOTION ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. THAT KIND OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP OF , THE AREA THIS ONE THE ONE WITH THE COLORS ON IT ACTUALLY THE FIRST SLIDE I THINK YOU HAD THERE YOU GO. YOU ORIENTED US TO A NUMBER OF THE USES. THE ONE YOU SPECIFICALLY I AM WONDERING IS ABOUT IMMEDIATELY SOUTH THE SITE I BELIEVE IT'S TWO 7 TO 0 THAT IS ALSO SURFACE PARKING. IS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL OR IS OTHER USE? CHAIR COMMISSIONERS THAT IS WITH THE HOTEL I BELIEVE AND IT'S JUST PARKING SURFACE OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HI MY IS JASON SCHNEIDERMAN MISSIONARIES FURNITURE. SO I JUST HAVE TO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT COMING TO BLOOMINGTON. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A VERY LONG TIME FOR A LOCATION IN THIS AREA NOT EASY TO FIND OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIER HALPERT THANK YOU CHAIR MR. SCHNEIDERMAN I HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO HOW THE BUILDING SITS IN RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER RETAIL USES THE SPACE SO HOBBY LOBBY THEIR DOOR IS FACING NOT ON THE NORTH SIDE AND YOUR MAIN DOOR WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE CORRECT. HOW DO YOU IMAGINE AND HOW DID YOU WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO GO WITH THE DOOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND DID YOU LOOK AT PUTTING THE DOOR IN THE NORTH SIDE T TO MATCHHE OTHER RETAIL USES? WELL, I MIGHT WANT TO REFER TO MY ARCHITECT HERE BUT CERTAINLY THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO FACE FOR 94. I KNOW THAT PART OF THE CHALLENGE THOUGH IS THE PARKING AND NO MATTER WHAT WE HAVE THAT GIANT PARKING LOT IN THE BACK. I BELIEVE THERE'S AN EASEMENT RIGHT IN FRONT AS FAR AS WHERE WE CAN BUILD AND EXTEND IN THAT AREA. IS THAT CORRECT ON THE FRONT SIDE? ON THE NORTH SIDE, YES. THANK YOU, SCOTT. MY FRIEND DANIELS ARCHITECTS THE NORTH SIDE IS THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A FAIRLY WIDE EASEMENT ACROSS THERE AND THE ONLY AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT COULD THEORETICALLY PUT IF YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN OF THE EXISTING BUILDING THERE IS DOUBLE PARKING WHERE THERE'S A SINGLE LANE OF PARKING ALONG THE BUILDING AND A DRIVE LANE AND THERE'S ONLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR ONE MORE RURAL PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHICH WOULDN'T HAVE ACTUALLY MADE SENSE TO PUT OUR PARKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PARKING TO SUPPORT THE USE ON THE NORTH SIDE. EXISTING ENTRANCE IS ALREADY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PERKINS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP THAT WAY AND ACTUALLY AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE IF WE EVER DO GET A CONNECTION THROUGH TO THE HOBBY LOBBY PARKING LOT AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH IN FRONT OF TARGET AND LOBBY YOU ACTUALLY SEE THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING MORE PROMINENTLY YOU WOULD THE NORTH SIDE. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT TRICIA GOLSON THANK YOU CHAIR. MAYBE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF. SO THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW THE QUESTION ABOUT NORTH SIDE, WHAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE IS PLANNED FOR THE NORTH SIDE FOR VISIBILITY F 94 IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE PLAN IS NOW THAT'S ON THEIR THERE'S A PILLAR ON THE SAME OR ON THE SAME SIDE WITH THAT STONE MATERIAL THAT WILL HAVE THE SAME SHERMAN'S FURNITURE ON THAT SIDE TOO. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SINK SECTION OF THE CODE . THANK YOU. THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALSO SEEING THAT ONLINE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION SECOND, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GOLSON THANK CHAIR JUST A FEW COMMENTS HERE IS I'M HAPPY TO SEE US UTILIZING EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT CURRENTLY VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED SO I COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR UTILIZING EXISTING SPACE AND AND FRESHENING IT UP I DRIVE BY THAT LOCATION A LOT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROXIMITY TO FOR 94 AND 35 AND IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU GREAT VISIBILITY. I'M ALSO EXCITED TO SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PLACE FOR EMPLOYMENT AS WELL AS TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY. SO I THINK YOU KNOW OVERALL THE BUSINESS I'M LOOKING TO SEEING IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I READ IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS LOT AROUND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND I LIKE I SAID I'VE DRIVEN IN THAT AREA AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST PARKING LOT. TIMES TEN YEAH SO I REALLY AM EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU'RE TAKING SOME OF THAT PARKING LOT CREATING A LITTLE BIT MORE GREENSPACE ALLOWING FOR BETTER STORMWATER AND REALLY JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE INVITING THAN JUST A CONCRETE PARK. SO OVERALL I THINK THIS APPLICATION IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING EMPLOYMENT AND REVENUE TO THE CITY AND. I WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST. I'D LIKE TO BUILD ON THAT COMMENT ABOUT THERE IS PROBABLY FEWER PLACES IN CITY THAT ARE MORE EMBLEMATIC OF OUR OLD PARKING APPROACH THAN THE SOUTH TOWN AREA. I MEAN THE AMOUNT AND AMOUNT OF UNUSED PARKING IS IS YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS BUT IT'S ASTONISHING AND SO I THE REASON BRING THAT UP IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, MY LOVE OF LESS PARKING AND MORE SIDEWALKS IS THAT I HAVE NO CONCERN ABOUT THE PROOF OF PARKING AND THAT AND I ASKED ABOUT THE AND BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF THE HOTEL PARKING I THINK SHOULD THERE BE TENSION THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EITHER SHARED PARKING AGRMENTS WITHHE HOL OR WITH THE HOBBY LOBBY AREA BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT TWO MORE BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF TARGET AND HOBBY LOBBY AND STILL HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO BLOCK THE VIEW BUT. I JUST THINK I WANTED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK OVERALL I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL. OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COOKSON THANK YOU MR. CHAIR YOU KNOW AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE EXCITED ABOUT APPLICATIONS. IF I WERE I MIGHT BE INCLINED TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE. I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT TO REUSE AN EXISTING BUILDING. I LOVE SEEING THAT WE'RE REVISITING AN EXISTING BUILDING. ISN'T THERE ANOTHER BUILDING ON FOR 94 THAT WE RECENTLY WISHED HAD BEEN REVISITED INSTEAD OF TORN DOWN. AND SO I THINK THIS IS TERRIFIC AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION. COMMISSIONER THANK YOU. CHAIR. MY QUESTION RELATED TO THE IS THE WAY IN THE THE BUILDING IS SITUATED ON THE SITE AND WHERE THE MAIN DOOR. I WAS JUST THINKING HOW THIS AREA IS IS A KEY EXAMPLE OF WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST. I DRIVE BY THE BACK OF TARGET ALL OF THE TIME AND I REALLY WISH THAT IT WAS FLIPPED AROUND. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF SORT OF ACTIVATING AMERICAN BOULEVARD IN THAT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE DO THINK THAT IT KIND OF GETS IT'S SORT OF THE WHOOP THE OF THAT AREA OF SORTS. AND SO I'M I'M HOPEFUL FOR YOU KNOW MORE GREENERY, MORE ACTIVE USE, MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO THAT AREA. SO I THINK IT'S IT'S A GREAT APPLICATION EXCITED HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS AND PARTICULARLY A BUSINESS WHOSE REUSING A BUILDING THAT ALREADY EXISTS SO I'M I'M IN SUPPORT. ANYTHING THAT CAME TO MIND AND I THINK WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I RECALL THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PROCESS IN PLACE AND I NOT SUGGTING WE NEED APECIFIC PROCESS IN PLACE BUT. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO WHERE WE HAVE A REUSE COME TO US AND WE FIND THAT THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE AND THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL HAVE SINCE DETERIORATED AND IT WAS JUST ENCOURAGE WHICHEVER YOU KNOW AREA OUR CITY THAT IN ADDITION TO THE THOUSAND OTHER THINGS WE ASKED THEM TO DO WITH HALF THE STAFF THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TO HELP US KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THOSE THINGS DO AFFECT LIVABILITY AND AGAIN NOT LOOKING FOR US TO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING WE DON'T ALREADY DO. BUT I JUST THINK THAT BEEN A NUMBER OF THESE THAT HAVE COME UP AND AND OH BY THE WAY THE THING IS EVERYTHING IS DEAD AND SO THIS IS JUST A GOOD REMINDER TO ME THAT WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'RE GOOD REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT WE DO WITH THEM BEYOND INITIAL APPROVAL IS ALSO IMPORTANT. COMMISSIONER CURRIE THANK YOU CHAIR. I GUESS REGARDING THAT WOULD QUESTION IS THE IS THE BUILDING OWNED BY SCHNEIDERMAN'S OR IS IT RENTED BY THEM ANDHEN THE LANDLOR WILL MAINTAIN THE THE LANDSCAPING AND HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW, KEEP THINGS UP TO PAR. BUSINESS LOOKS ATTRACTIVE FROM 494 ALL THE TIME OWNS THAT PROPERTY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION PLEASE IN CASE 220202023-118 HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND MOVE TO APPROVE A MAJOR REVION TO FIN AND BUILDING PLANS FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 4076 SQUARE FOOT TWO STOREY ADDITION AND BUILDING CONVERSION TO A RETAIL FURNITURE FACILITY LOCATED AT 2740 AMERICAN BOULEVARD WEST SUBJECT THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONDS TO APPROVE A MAJOR REVISION TO FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I II OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES AND THIS ONE IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS RECEIVED BY 4:30 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 6TH. THANK YOU. THEY DON'T NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVAL OF A COUPLE OF MEETING SYNOPSES AND THE FIRST ONE I NEED TO GO THROUGH SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD WAS END OF THE LAST SESSION AND SO JUNE 22ND COMMISSIONERS ROHMAN ALBRECHT AND COOK TEN WERE PARTICIPANTS THIS ONE. SO I INTEND A MOTION FOR APPROVAL MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I II OPPOSED ABSTAIN ABSTAIN MOTION THE AUGUST 3RD PLANNING COMMISSION EVERYONE WAS PRESENT SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR AUGUST 3RD SO MOVED SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE AUGUST THIRD PLANNING COMMISSION SYNOPSIS ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR S I IIPPOSED T MOTION I DON'T FIVE THE POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE PLANNING MANAGER MICHAEL GOOD CHAIR ROHMAN COMMISSIONERS. LOOKING AHEAD TO YOUR SEPTEMBER 14TH MEETING WE HAVE FOUR KIND OF AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE NONSTANDARD. THEY INCLUDE ANOTHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DAY CARE CENTER AT, A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY SECOND RATE AND THERE'S A CONDITIONAL PERMIT FOR IOOR AND RECATION FACILITY. THEN WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND THEN FINALLY UPDATE ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS SEPTEMBER 28TH. THREE NONSTANDARD ITEMS INCLUDING ANOTHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AT A DAYCARE CENTER. SECONDLY, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SPORTS TRAINING FACILITY. AND FINALLY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AT AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY. THE OCTOBER 5TH AGENDA JUST CLOSED THIS WEEK AND DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS SO FAR ON THAT AGENDA. SO NOTHING IS CONTINUED TO THAT AGENDA THAT OCTOBER FIFTH MEETING WOULD BE CANCELED. THANK YOU. ONE ITEM I HAVE THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP AS AT SOME POINT IN THE COMING MONTHS PERHAPS OR THIS FALL SOMETIME I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AN UPDATE IF THERE IS ONE ON SOME OF THE PROGRESS PLANS AROUND THE PAN-AMERICAN AREA RELATED TO THE 4435 W PROJECT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WELL WHEN COMMISSIONER SOLBERG WAS HERE BEFORE TOO WAS WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASING VEHICLE COUNCIL THERE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN APPROACH AT PENN. 334 94/82 AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT IF ANY PROGRESS BEING MADE ON IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN REALM IN THAT AREA AT SOME POINT. THE COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN THANKS CHAIR. I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION AND SINCE THE TRAFFIC JAMS HERE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THEM AND MAYBE CAN ANSWER SO I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUT INSTALLED TEMPORARILY ON 93RD AND RUELL AND I'D LE THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 14TH. IS THAT A TOPIC THAT YOU ARE PLANNING ON COVERING NEXT OR NOT IN TWO WEEKS DURING THE MEETING? THEY'RE FIGHTING OVER ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS. YOU GOT OFF I DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEAK TO THEM THREE BUT WE'RE BRINGING YOU BACK FOR ITEM FIVE. ROHMAN COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN THATS OF OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. OUR LOOK AHEAD PROGRAM. SO WHAT OUR STAFF IS WE LOOK AT WHERE THERE ARE POTENTIAL WHERE TRAFFIC CALMING MIGHT BE OF USE TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON GOING INTO ANY DETAILS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. IF YOU RECALL, WE COME TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER BUT THEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY. IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT FORWARD AT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT IT AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS. THE COMMUNITY MEETING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IT WEEK BUT IT WAS DURING THE 100 DEGREE HEAT WAVE SO WE HAD TO POSTPONE IT TILL NEXT WEEK. SO NOT READY TO EVEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ASIDE FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE CALLED US AND SOME BUS DRIVERS. BUT WE'VE ALSO GONE OUT AND OBSERVED AND WE HAVE VIDEO OF HOW BUSSES CAN AROUND THE CURVE OR THE CIRCLE. OKAY GREAT. THK YOU FOR THE FEEDBK. OTHER ITEMS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO RAISE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE WE ARE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH