>> Mayor Muns: I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL UNCIEMBE AREPRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION IN ACTION RESULTING IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE ONE ITEM, PERSONNEL, REGULAR MEMBER. NT, INTERIM - >> MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER GRADY AND MYSELF HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MANSUR KAREMI AS A REGULAR MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THEN APPOINT KAREN BALESSED. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE MR. KAREMI ON THE BOARD WITH THE ALTERNATE AS WELL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 8-0. ITEM TWO, DISCUSSION DIRECTION OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FUNDING. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, I SUGGEST WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM D BNG THIS BACK FOR A MORE DETAILED POSTING ON TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION? >> HUH-UH. >> Mayor Muns: IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? >> YES. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. GO AHEAD. >> Williams:HAT I THOUGHT WAS AGREED UPON WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE ONE DISCUSSION TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KEEP CLEAR LINES BETWEEN POINTS OF DISCUSSION. WE'D HAVE ONE DISCUSSION TONIGHT REGARDING FUNDING AND THEN BRING BACK ANOTHER DISCUSSION LATER INSTEAD OF POSTPONING EVERYTHING. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT COUNCIL HAD INTENDED. >> Mayor Muns: WELL, I THINK THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, WHICH CAUSED A LITTLE COMPLICATION IN THE DISCUSSION. AND I THINK IF WE COULD CLEARLY DEFINE THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, I THINK IT MIGHT -- I THINK WE ALL MIGHT BE BETTER PREPARED. >> Williams: OKAY. SO JUST COME BACK WITH A VERY SPECIFIC AGENDA TOPIC? >> Mayor Muns: MM-HMM. >> Williams: OKAY. >> Mayor Muns: ITEM III DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. WE'RE TRYING TO BASICALLY ALIGN HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ISSUE. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO FIRST IS INVITE THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TO BEGIN. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THEM. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? 14? 16. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE REDUCE THAT TO TWO MINUTES EACH. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. >> OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT IS BILL FRANCE, AND HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY TATYANA RAMIREZ. >> MAYOR MUNS, CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY LEADERS, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL FRANCE, AND I'M HERE AGAIN TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE PLANO, TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. NEXT MONTH MARKS ONE YEAR SINCE I FIRST CAME TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. WE ASKED AT THAT TIME WHY OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES, WHICH BANNED THE OPERATION OF HOTELS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WAS NOT BEING ENFORCED. WE SHARED OUR FEARS ABOUT THE INCREASING INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE WITH OVER 200 SHOOTING TO DATE AT STRs NATIONWIDE AND THE MURDER OF A TEENAGER RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN CITY. SINCE THEN, WE'VE APPRED BEFORE YOU MORE THAN A DOZEN TIMES WITH A GROWING COALITION OF NEIGHBORS SUFFERING THE EFFECTS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AT THIS TIME, I ASK ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS TO PLEASE STAND. OVER THE PAST 11 MONTHS, YOU HAVE HEARD THE TESTIMONY OF MANY OF YOUR RESIDENTS. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE LARGE LOUD PARTIES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THE DISREGARD FOR NEIGHBORS' PROPERTY, TH SHOUTING, CURSING, FIST FIGHTS, RACING CARS. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT CHILDREN WHO ARE AFRAID TO SLEEP IN THEIR OWN BED BECAUSE IT OVERLOOKS A ROWDY PARTY HOUSE, AND KIDS CAN'T RIDE THEIR SCOOTERS UP AND DOWN THEIR OWN STREET. YOU'VE HEARD THE FRUSTRATIONS WITH THE ABILITY OF THE POLICE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. >> 20 SECONDS. >> AND OF COURSE, TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU HEARD ABOUT A SHOOTING. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. REMOVAL IS THE ONLY REMEDY. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF YR CY AND REMOVE STRs FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS TATYANA RAMIREZ. I HAVE BEEN A PLANO RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS. WE WANT TO PUT AN END TO SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOMES IN PLANO. OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ONLY 14 HOMES, BUT TWO OF THESE ARE NOW STRs. INSTEAD OF FOSTERING AN OPEN SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, WE NOW HAVE OVERFLOWS OF CARS THAT HINDER US FROM GETTING TO OUR HOMES. INSTEAD OF CARING FOR OUR NEIGHBORS' WELL-BEING BY BRINGING THEM FOOD WHEN THEY ARE SICK, WE ARE BRINGING INCONSIDERATE STRANGERS TO OUR COMMUNITY. INSTEAD OF OUR NEIGHBORS WAVING GOOD BUY BYE TO MY SON, WE HAVE A STRANGER STANDING WITH A SUITCASE. STRs OUR COMMUNITY AND DIVIDE US. THEY ARE ULTIMATELY WEAKENING IT BY RISKING OUR SAFETY, OUR VALUES, AND OUR UNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO END BY QUOTING JFK. THERE ARE RISKS AND COSTS TO ACTIONS, BUT THEY ARE FAR LESS THAN THE LONG-RANGE RISK OF COMFORTABLE INACTIONS. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GREG PATILLO, FOLLOWED BY BILL BAKER. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GREG PATILLO, A PLANO RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 29 YEARS. NOVEMBER 2019, 18 SHOTS ARE FIRED INTO A PLANO SHORT-TERM RENTAL KILLING A 16-YEAR-OLD. SEPTEMBER 2022, A PROSTITUTION RING IS BUSTED IN A PLANO SHORT-TERM RENTAL BY DALLAS POLICE. FEBRUARY 2023, A PARTY, WHERE PLANO POLICE RESPONDED TO A NOISE COMPLAINT, NOT ONLY CONTINUED BUT ESCALATED TO AN EXCHANGE OF GUNFIRE. PLEASE SHARE WITH US THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU THINK IS GOING TO PREVENT THESE INCIDENTS. THEY HAVE THREATENED NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT THE PLATFORM'S VERY OWN BUSINESSES FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, YET HERE WE ARE. PARTIES, LOUD PROFANITY TRASH THEFT VANDALISM, AND UNMAINTAINED PROPERTY THAT NEVER MAKE IT TO THE MEDIA CONTINUE TO BE AN ALL-TOO-COMMON EXPERIENCE. SOME OF THESE ALREADY HAVE ORDINANCES THAT CAN BE ENFORCED BUT WE CONTINUE TO LIVE WITH THEM. PLATFORM BANS WON'T WORK. THEY WILL ALWAYS HAVE HACKS AND WORK AROUNDS. AIRBNB CLAIMS THEIR ALGORITHMS HAVE REDUCED PARTIES. GREAT. WE CAN NOW ONLY EXPECT 65. FOR THE RECORD, GETTING A PROBLEM 35% CORRECT IS A FAILING GRADE. JUST TO CLAIM SUGGESTION THAT AIRBNB HAS ACCURATE NUMBERS ON THE PARTIES IN THEIR BOOKINGS, DISCREDITED. ONLY RECORD AN ALER HOST OF WHAT THE REALITY OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE EXPERIENCING. THAT'S LITERALLY IN THEIR MARKETING MATERIAL. >> 20 SECONDS. >> ON THE STREETS THAT DISPLAY YOUR CURRENT SPEED. WITHOUT FULLY VETTED GUESTS, ONSITE (READING VERY QUICKLY) CITY NEIGHBORS TRULY KNOW WHO THE OCCUPANTS OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ARE OR THE ACTIVITIES THEY'RE ENGAGED IN. UNLESS A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED OR THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE WHERE A POLICE CAN ACT, THEY ARE POWERLESS TO REMOVE THE OCCUPANTS OR DISRUPT THE ACTIVITIES. THE ONLY SURE SOLUTION TO ENSURING THE SAFETY, PEACE AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE PLANO NEIGHBORHOODS IS TO REMOVE THE ONE THING THAT DESTROYED THEM. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> MAYOR MUNS, CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS BILL BAKER. I'M HERE AGAIN. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A BATTLEGROUND. YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT THE SHOOTING TWO WEEKS AGO. THE GUNFIRE. YOU HEARD ABOUT THE BROTHEL RAID IN SEPTEMBER. THIS IS A NEWS FLASH. IN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA, REPORTED FEBRUARY THE 23rd, THERE WAS A FENTANYL BUST, VALUED AT $5.4 MILLION IN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA. THAT REMINDS ME OF THE HEROINE EPIDEMIC IN OUR CITY IN 1997. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. THE MODEL THAT'S USED OUT THERE IS FLAWED AND UNSAFE AND HAS NO THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY BY ANY PARTY. DON'T LET PROPERTY RIGHTS AND ONE BAD ACTOR ARGUMENT SWAY YOUR OPINION. DON'T TRADE OUR SAFETY FOR FINANCIAL GAIN OF THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. THEY DON'T CARE. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. LET'S NOT FORGET THAT. YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENSURE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE SAFE. AND I DON'T FEEL SO SAFE ANYMORE. YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION, AND THAT IS WHAT I EXPECT TO GET FROM YOU. PLEASE LISTEN TO US. THANK YOU, MAYOR. (APPLAUSE) >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK PULIUM FOLLOWED BY STEVEN KIRIAKOS. >> COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MARK, RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR 37 YEARS. 25 YEARS IN THE SAME HOUSE. AND THE HOUSE I'M IN RIGHT NOW IS NEAR ONE OF THESE INVESTOR OWNERS. SO I HAVE A VERY VESTED INTEREST. I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF PROHIBITING ANY EXISTING OR NEW STRs IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STRONGLY OPPOSED TO ANY SORT OF A SETTLEMENT OR A COMPROMISE TO ALLOW EXIING ONES TO REMAIN BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT. BUT JUST TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER, THE TRANSACTIONAL NATURE OF AN STR IS JUST ANTI TH ICAL TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DON'T BELONG. THEY'RE NOT HERE FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. THEY HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST IN THE HOUSE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, COME AND GO. SO THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THEY NT TO BE IN AN ENTERTAINMENT ZONE, BUT THEM IN AN ENTERTAINMENT ZONE. IF PLANO WANTS TO SET UP AN ENTERTANMENT ZONE, SET UP ONE. BUT IF YOU WERE IN FRISCO AROUND THE PGA OR UNIVERSAL STUDIOS OR CITY OF ARLINGTON IN THEIR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. IF YOU WANT TO SET UP ONE, DO THAT. PUT PEOPLE THERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONCERN, I'M HEARING A CONCERN FROM TALKING TO A COUPLE OF COUNCILMEMBERS THAT IT'S A TAKING OF THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THESE STR OWNERS. I DISAGREE. THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN THEIR PROPERTY AND LEASE THEIR PROPERTY. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT ILLEGAL USE IN A ZONED RESIDENTIAL AREA. >> 20 SECONDS. >> I NOTICED ON THE WEBSITE, LOOKING AT THE THING ABOUT -- SORRY. LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOTEL TAXES. YOU WERE SITTING THERE DEFINING ANY OF THESE THINGS, INCLUDING AN STR, AS A HOTEL. THEN I GO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, HOTELS ARE SPECIFICALLY BANNED. PLEASE BAN THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PPLAE) >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS STEVEN, A 20-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO. I APPRECIATE CHRISTINA DAY'S UPDATE ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS DATED MARCH 10. IT OUTLINES A SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN OUR PATH FORWARD TO FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL PER YOUR DIRECTIONS. THESE TWO PAGES ARE SOURCED FROM THAT ARLINGTON ORDINANCE. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TWO ITEMS CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS. ONE, THE ORDINANCE STATES WHERE YOU CAN AND CANNOT HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. TWO, THERE IS AN EXPIRATION DATE ON EXISTING STR OPERATING IN ZONES THAT ARE NO LONGER ALLOWING THAT USE. THAT WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENT HERE. CLARITY IN THESE DEFINITIONS WILL BE KEY TO OUR SUCCESS AND ENFORCEMENT AND LEGAL DEFENSE AND MUST BE INCLUDED IN OUR ORDINANCE. LASTLY, A WORD ABOUT THE DATA COLLECTION FROM CHRISTINA DAY'S UPDATE. I WOULD APPLAUD THAT WE'VE GOT -- WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS WITH DECKARD TECHNOLOGIES IN DATA COLLECTION, PROCUREMENT, CLEANSING, AND INTEGRATION INTO OUR CITY'S CAD SYSTEM. THAT TEST MUST BE ONGOING AS THE DATA WILL BE STALE AS STR PROPERTIES CONTINUE TO PROPAGATE. THIS IS NOT A ONE-AND-DONE UPDATE BUT ON GOING SO WE CAN REMAIN FRESH IN DATA FOR ENFORCEMENT AND LEGAL DEFENSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT FIND US IN THE FUTURE. IN CONCLUSION, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE AND IN REALIZING OUR VISION TO KEEP PLANO A CITY OF EXCELLENCE. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARLA KIRIAKOS FOLLOWED BY JOHN GREEN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS AND MEMBERS OF MY CITY COUNCIL. I'M MARLA KIRIAKOS, A RESIDENT OF PLANO AND CONCERNED CITIZEN AND A LICENSED AND PRACTICING CPA. I'M A RULES FOLLOWER IN MY PERSONAL LIFE AS WELL AS ADVICE TO MY CLIENTS. WE MANAGE RISK BY PERFORMING DUE DILIGENCE. I LEARNED THE RULES WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME IN PLANO OVER 30 YEARS AGO. THE ORDINCES ALLOWED ME TO RUN A CPA BUSINESS OUT OF MY HOME. THAT IS A REASONABLE AND APPROVED PROPERTY RIGHT. BUT IF A CLIENT APPROACHED ME ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY ABOUT OPENING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT DOOR, IT WOULD BE A HARD NO. IF A PROPERTY USE IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED, IT IS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED. IT'S MY JOB TO LET MY CLIENTS KNOW THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THEY DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHICH RULES TO FOLLOW. NOT UNDER MY ADVICE. STRs ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES, AND THAT MAKES ME ANGRY. SO LET'S FLOW E RULES. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOHN GREEN. I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 27 YEARS, OVER 27. I'M BACK AGAIN THIS WEEK TO TALK TO Y'ALL AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THE -- I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOUSE THAT HAD ALL THE GUNFIRE TWO WEEKS AGO. I DON'T WANT A REPEAT OF THAT. I WANT OTHER CITIZENS OF PLANO THAT ACTUALLY BUY THEIR HOMES, LIVE IN THEIR HOMES, I DON'T WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDES TO TURN IT INTO A PARTY HOUSE. SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT BELONG IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONED AREAS OF PLANO. PLANO DOESN'T NEED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THESE NEHBORHOODS, SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT CAN AND HAVE TURNED INTO PARTY HOUSES AND EVEN BROTHELS, AS OTHERS HAVE EVEN MENTIONED TONIGHT. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM A REAL ESTATE AGENT NEIGHBOR THAT'S A REALTOR, IS THAT POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS ARE -- IF THEY'RE SMART, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BUY A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. BECSE THEY DON'T WANT THE GRIEF. SO IT'S EVEN IMPACTING, YOU KNOW, FILLING THESE AVAILABLE HOMES WITH CITIZENS THAT ARE REAL CITIZENS. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> -- IS FOR YOU TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF PLANO THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MELISSA MAYO, AND SHE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ZOEY SANCHEZ. >> HI, MAYOR MUNS AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I LIVE IN PLANO. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I'VE LIVED IN THE DALLAS/FT. WORTH METROPLEX MY ENTIRE LIFE, 65 YES, SO I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE. THIS IS MY RETIREMENT HOME. THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO BE. I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOVE THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW VERY WELL RECENTLY, BY THEWAY, SINCE THE SHOOTING TWO WEEKS AGO. ON THAT NIGHT, AND EARLY THAT SUNDAY MORNING, THERE WAS NO REGARD FOR THOSE OF US WHO MAKE THIS OUR HOME. IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSE. IT IS TRULY OUR HOME. IT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE, WHERE WE WANT TO STAY. THIS IS, AS I SAID, MY RETIREMENT HOME. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE. I DON'T WANT TO BE SILENT EITHER AND ALLOW THIS TYPE OF THING TO CONTINUE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD. AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR RETIREMENT. IT'S FOR CHILDREN GROWING UP, FOR SAFETY, WALKING YOUR DOG DOWN THE BLOCK, NOT WORRYING ABOUT BEING SHOT AT BY RANDOM STRANGERS WHO CAN RENT A HOUSE FOR ONE NIGHT FOR A PARTY AND HAVE NO CARE FOR THE AFTERMATH. WHAT I ASK OF YOU IS THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING AS YOU ADDRESS THE LOCATION, THE RESTRICTIONS, REGISTRATION, AND TAXATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. NUMBER ONE, IN WHAT TYPES OF LOCATIONS OR ZONES SHOULD A SHORT-TERM RENTAL RESIDE IN PLANO? >> 20 SECONDS. >> WHEN IS THIS EVER A POSITIVE FORCE FOR THE CITY INSTEAD OF A DRAIN ON RESOURCES AND A SOURCE NUMB TWO, HOW SHOULD ME? SHORT-TERM RENTALS FUNCTION WITHIN SPECIFIC ZONES? IS THERE A MINIMUM STAY IN ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS TO NUMBERS OF INHABITANTS? THREE, WHO IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE OF PLANO WHO MAY HAVE LOSS THROUGH PROPERTY DAMAGE, GARBAGE STREWN ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN UP TO GUNSHOT SHELLS IN YOUR FRONT YARD AND THROUGH THE WINDOW. AND WHAT ABOUT WHEN THIS ESCALATES TO LOSS OF LIFE? THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. (ALAUSE) >> OKAY. CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR MUNS -- OH, OKAY. TWO WEEKS AGO I WAS STANDING BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO END. TODAY NO DIFFERENT. I STAND HERE JUST TWO WEEKS AFTER ONE OF THE MOST TRAUMATIC EVENTS IN MY LIFE AND THE MOST TRAUMATIC EVENT OF MY DAUGHTER'S 3-YEAR-OLD LIFE. I DON'T SLEEP. I'M FEARFUL. I'M ANXIOUS AS EACH PASSING DAY BRINGS A POSSIBILITY OF AN OUT-OF-CONTROL PROPERTY AT THE PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTIES SURROUNDING US. MY DAUGHTER ASKS ME ALMOST DAILY, ARE THE BAD GUYS COMING BACK? WHY WOULD SOMEONE SHOOT OUR HOUSE? SHE PUTS HER HANDS OVER HER EARS WHEN SHE HEARS THE WORD BULLETS. AND I COWER AND DUCK WHEN I HEAR ANYTHING RESEMBLING A GUNSHOT. WHAT DO I TELL MY 3-YEAR-OLD WHEN SHE ASKS QUESTIONS? THE MOST I CAN SAY IS IT'S OKAY, WE'RE SAFE. BUT DEEP DOWN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT. I HOPE AFTER THIS MEETING I CAN GO HOME AND TELL HER THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR CITY WILL KEEP US SAFE AND END SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I DON'T WANT TO STAND HERE IN A LATER MEETING MOURNING A FAMILY MEMBER, A NEIGHBOR, OR AN INNOCE. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. (APPLAUSE) >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. LISA, (OFF MIC). WE'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO START THE REGULAR MEETING RIGHT HERE AT 7:00. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND GET RIGHT BACK TO THE SPEAKERS. I NOW DECLAREHAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY COUNCILMEMBER RICCIARDELLI AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY COUNCILMEMBER GRADY. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? >> Ricciardelli: LORD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TONIGHT TOGETHER. WE PRAY FOR WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE GRACE FOR ONE ANOTHER, AND WE PLEASANT IT IS WHEN BROTHERS AN- LIVE IN HARMONY. WE PRAY WE WOULD ALL MAKE DECISIONS IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES HARMONY AND TREAT EACH OTHER IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES HARMONY. WE KNOW THAT YOUR WORD SAYS BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS, SO WE PRAY ALL OF US IN OUR ACTIONS WOULD BE PEACEMAKERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN. >>Mayor Muns: PLEASE FACE THE FLAG. (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE) (TEXAS PLEDGE) >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. BE SEATED. WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH THE PRELIMINARY OPEN AND THE SPEAKERS WITH ALAINA BOURQUE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALAINA BURKE, AND I'VE LIVED IN MY PLANO HOME FOR 29 YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD TO CALL THE POLICE ON A NEIGHBOR, NOT SO FOR MANY OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO LIVE NEAR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OF LATE IN OUR AREA, IN DALLAS, THE PROSTITUTION RING, SEX TRAFFICKING, DRUGS. FOX NEWS, TEEN GIRL SHOT IN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN MESQUITE. ONE STORY MENTIONED WAS A WOMAN PAID $7 MILLION BY AIRBNB AFTER BEING RAPED IN A, NO NEW YORK CITY SHORT-TERM RENTAL. CHICAGO POLICE FOUND 200 PEOPLE FILMING A MUSIC VIDEO IN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BECAUSE, HEY, YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY THE FEES FOR GETTING THE RIGHTS TO FILM SOMEWHERE, SO THAT'S AN EASY FIX. WFAA FOUND A SURVEY OF 80% OF DALLAS RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, AND I HAVE TO INCLUDE MYSELF IN THAT GROUP. THEY FIND THAT SHORT-TERM RENTERS HAVE NO STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY, NO REASON TO CARE HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THEM SUFFERS FROM THEIR VACATION ACTIVITIES. PLANO HOUSE PARTY SHOOTING OWNED BY A COMMERCIAL COMPANY, ENTITIES THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE STE. C IN 2023 FOUND THAT TEENS SHOT DURING A HOMECOMING PARTY IN TEXAS, UPWARDS OF 200 TEENS IN THE HOME. >> 20 SECONDS. >> I CAN GO ON. NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY STUDY FINDS AIRBNB RAISES VIOLENT CRIME AS LONG-TERM RESIDENTS ARE PUSHED OUT. (READING QUICKLY) I KNOW THAT THERE ARE REASONABLE AND ETHICAL PEOPLE OWNING STRs. THEY JUST DON'T BELONG IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES. RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT NONE OF YOU WOULD WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO ONE, I GUARANTEE IT. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE). >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROB ENGELS FOLLOWED BY TRACY REVEAL-SHIPMAN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. PLEASED TO BE HERE WITYOU. LET ME START BY LOOKING AT THE STRATEGIC VISION FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. IT SAYS PLANO IS A GLOBAL ECONOMIC LEADER BONDED BY A SHARED SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE. YOU AS A COUNCIL AND THOSE BEFORE YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED. PLANO IS ONE OF THE BEST BUSINESS PLACES TO RELOCATE YOUR BUSINESS. IT'S ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR HAVING A CITY THAT HIGH IN STATURE. I'M A PROUD PERSON TO BE PART OF PLANO. COUPLE THINGS IN THAT VISION, SAFE, VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS. COLLABORATIVE PUBLIC SAFETY. EXCELLENT INNOVATIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE CITY GOVERNMENT. DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS. AND LASTLY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ECONOMIC VITALITY. BUSINESS RETENTION AND ATTRACTION. WE ARE CURRENTLY RANKED NUMBER THREE IN THE COUNTRY AS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. I SUBMIT TO YOU WE WON'T STAY IN THE TOP FIVE IF WE DO NOTHING. SOME OF YOU HAVE YOUR LEGACIES WRITTEN THIS COMING MAY. SOME WILL HAVE YOUR LEGACIES WRITTEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW. YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT THAT LEGACY IS GOING TO BE. WERE YOU THE CITY COUNCIL THAT KEPT PLANO IN THE TOP FIVE, OR WERE YOU THE CITY COUNCI THAT MADE IT JUST A RANKING? YOU'VE HEARD EVERYONE SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE PLUSES OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE. THIS IS TRULY A PHENOMENA THAT WILL NOT REGULATE ITSELF >> 20 SECONDS. >> THE CITY COUNCIL IS EMPOWERED BY ITS VOTERS TO MAKE THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT. AS I USED TO TELL EVERY SALESPERSON THAT USED TO REPORT TO ME IN MY MANAGEMENT CAREER, YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW TIMES IN YOUR BUSINESS LIFE OR YOUR PERSONAL LIFE WHEN YOU CAN DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. (APPLAUSE) >> MAYOR MUNS AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS TRACY REVEAL-SHIPMAN, AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR SEVEN YEARS. BOTH OF MY BOYS WERE BORN HERE, AND MY OLDEST IS THE YOUNG MAN RIGHT THERE WHOSE HOUSE AND SENSE OF SECURITY WAS SHATTERED TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN A BULLET FLEW THROUGH HIS FRONT WINDOW. SO I'M A GRAMMY OF A THREE-YEAR-OLD BUT I'M ALSO A PEER AND COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I'VE SAT IN YOUR CHAIRS BEFORE. I WAS A FORMER CITY COUNCILMEMR IN FRISCO AND MAYOR PRO TEM. AND LIKE YOU, I HAVE TAKEN THE OATH OF OFFICE, AND I SWORE TO PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, OF OUR STATE OF TEXAS, AND OF OUR LOCAL CITY CHARTER. ALSO, TO UPHOLD OUR ORDINANCES. AS THE KEEPERS OF OUR COMMUNITY'S LAWS AND IN AC ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CHARTER, WE ARE WHERE THE BUCK STOPS. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING RESPONSIBLE ORDINANCES, FOR THE PROTECTION AND MAINTENANCE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT, PEACE, AND WELFARE OF OUR CI, FOR THE ORDER AND SECURITY OF ITS RESIDENTS. STRAIGHT OUT OF YOUR CHARTER AND FRISCO'S AS WELL. FRIENDS, NOWHERE IN OUR CITY CHARTERS OR THE OATH OF OFFICE DOES IT SAY TO PROTECT THE REVENUE OF PROFITEERES. AND THOSE WHO OPEN AND OPERATE UNRESPONSIVE AND UNACCOUNTABLE HOTELS NEXT TO HOMES. PLEASE PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH, WELFARE, AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE TO PLANO TO BUILD THEIR HOMES FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME,EOPLE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE, RAISE FAMILIES, AND RETIRE IN THIS COMMUNITY OF EXCELLENCE. PLEASE PROTECT GRANDDAUGHTERS LIKE MINE AND PLACE YOUR RESIDENTS OVER PROFITEERS. REMOVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. (APPLAUSE) >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK SHEARN, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA FRANCE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR MUNS AND COUNCIL, FOR SERVING THE CITY SO WELL AND FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ISSUE. I KNOW YOUR JOB IS NOT AN EASY ONE. MY NAME IS MARK CHURNY. I'M 65. MY WIFE AND I LIVE OVER IN PLANO. ON BEHALF OF ALL RESPONSIBLE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS AND GUESTS, WE'RE SINCERELY SORRY FONY OBLEMS, TROUBLE, THAT SOME PLANO RESIDENTS HAVE EXPERIENCED. WE'VE OWNED ONE OR TWO OTHER RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND A SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. WE HAVE HAD ZERO COMPLAINTS OR PROBLEMS WITH OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THE VAST MAJORITY OF AIRBNB OR VRBO GUESTS ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME. POLICE CALLS IN 2022, APPROXIMATELY 8200 CALLS FOR SERVICE CITYWIDE. 141 OF THOSE WERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 1.7%. 58 OF THOSE CALLS WERE TO SIX SHORT-TERM RENTALS CITYWIDE. 26 CALLS WERE TO ONE PROPERTY. .3%. THE PROBLEM IS NOT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. IT'S MANAGEMENT OF THOSE RENTALS. ON AIRBNB AND VRBO, THE OWNER SETS THE RULES, AGE LIMIT, LENGTH OF STAY, PARTIES AREN'T ALLOWED, GUESTS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND ORDINANCES. LE -- WE GIVE OUR N. IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF. IF YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM RENTAL AND TENANT, IT'S HARD TO EVICT THEM. 98.3% OF ALL CALLS -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> -- WERE IN LOCATIONS WHERE THE OWNER OR BUSINESS OCCUPIES NOT TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. TICKETING OR FINES, THAT'S THE SOLUTION. WE'VE WORKED AND PAID PROPERTY TAXES ALL OUR LIFE LIKE MOST OF US HERE. OWNING AN STR IS PART OF OUR RETIREMENT PLAN. PLEASE DON'T PUNISH 99% OF ALL REGULAR PEOPLE LIKE US WHO OWN ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL JUST BECAUSE OF A FEW BAD EGGS. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> HI, MY NAME IS BARBARA FRANCE, AND WE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN PLANO 26 YEARS AGO. TONIGHT I WANT TO QUICKLY ADDRESS THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARGUMENT. STR INVESTORS HAVE ARGUED THAT THIS IS MY HOME AND I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT TO WITH IT. . LET'S EXAMINE THIS. FIRST, THIS IS NOT YOUR HOME. YOU DON'T RESIDE IN IT. YOU DON'T GO OUTSIDE AFTER WORK, GET YOUR MAIL, WAVE AT YOUR NEIGHBORS, SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL. FOR YOU, THIS IS JUST A BUILDING YOU PURCHASE TO RUN A BUSINESS, A BUSINESS THAT OPERATES VERY MUCH LIKE A HOTEL. SECOND, I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT TO WITH MY PROPERTY. NO, YOU CAN'T. LAND USE IS THE WHOLE REASON WE HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, TO DEFINE WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED. WHAT ABOUT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS? WE PURCHASED OUR HOMES WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS WOULD BE PROTECTED, PROTECTED THROUGH ZONING AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF ORDINANCES SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO A BAR OR A RESTAURANT OR A HOTEL. THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE. DEFINE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS WHAT TY CLEARLY ARE, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND END SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> THE LAST SPEAKER IS DENISE MIDGLEY. MS. MIDGLEY? THEN I GUESS WE ARE DONE >> Mayor Muns: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO THE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS ON THE PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING, SO WE CAN GET SOME DIRECTION IN REGARD TO PUTTING IT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR MAKING DECISIONS. SO I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WILL DO IS LET CHRISTINA DAY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT KIND OF GIVE US AN OVERVIEW. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, EXECUTIVES. AS SOON AS I FORWARD TO THE SLIDES HERE, I WILL -- OR MAYBE I'LL LET THE PLANO TELEVISION NETWORK FOLKS HELP ME WITH THAT. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THIS PRESENTATION IS PARTIALLY BY ME, AS WELL AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PAIGE MIMS IS GOING TO BE COVERING A PORTION OF THIS AS WELL. THERE'S SOME LEGAL INFORMATION HERE. SO I'LL START OFF WITH ME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL OPENLY SINCE 2020. THERE WERE A FEW EXECUTIVE SESSIONS BEFORE THAT. BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. VARIOUS UPDATES HAPPENED THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT THE KIND OF MORE MODERN ERA STARTED IN OCTOBER 2022 WHERE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK AT A REGISTRATION PROGRAM, IMPLEMENT A PROCESS TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE CHANGES, AND OUR MODELAS TO LOOK AT ARLINGTON, TEXAS. WE THEN AT THE NOVEMBER 14th MEETING BROUGHT FORWARD A REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, BUT THAT WAS THEN TABLED TO A FUTURE MEETING. THERE WAS AN UPDATE GIVEN TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO IN NOVEMBER OF '22. THEN WE PROVIDED AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN FEBRUARY, ON THE 27th, COUNCIL'S -- THE COUNCILMEMBER REQUESTED THAT AN ORDINANCE RESTRICTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE APRIL 10th MEETING. THAT WAS SECONDED. THE CITY MANAGER THEN SUGGESTED AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THE CONTENT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE JANUARY 23rd, WHICH IS WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST UPDATE. DECKART TECHNOLOGIES, WE'VE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM, LOOKING THROUGH THAT DATA. WE HAVE 3600 DATA POINTS, SO THAT MEANS INDIVIDUAL STIN. AND SO MANY OF THESE ARE DUPLICATIVE OR INACTIVE WHERE IT'S A SLOW PROCESS TO CULL THROUGH, LOOKING -- BASICALLY COMPARING PICTURES OF EACH OF THE LISTINGS TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE THE SAME. AS OF MARCH 6th, IT'S ABOUT 50% COMPLETE. WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT -- THE VERIFIED DATA WE HAVE TO DATE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE CAD SYSTEM, WHICH IS COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH. ESPECIALLY THE 911 SYSTEM, SO WHEN PEOPLE PLACE A CALL TO 911 OR EVEN TO THE NONEMERGENCY NUMBER, WE KNOW THE POLICE CAN OBTAIN THAT ACCURATE INFORMATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN LABELED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. SO TO DATE WE HAVE 346 STR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN VERIFIED AND IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE 50% COMPLETE DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD JUST DOUBLE THAT NUMBER. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE OTHER HALF OF THIS PROCESS. SO WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY DOING THAT. WE ALSO HAVE64 PREVIOUS STRs THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE EARLY PART OF THE PROCESS. SO 410 HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN TOTAL, BUT 346 THAT ARE ACTIVE. SO THIS CHANGES DAILY AS -- OR MAY CHANGE DAILY AS LISTINGS ARE ADDED OR REMOVED. SO AGAIN, IT'S IN FLUX. WE'RE TRACKING IT AND HOPE TO HAVE A FULL ACCOUNTING SOON. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO DECKART, HOPING TO GET A TIMELINE BUT AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE AN EXACT TIMELINE AT THIS TIME. WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH GAP STRATEGIES FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH AND SUPPORT. WE HAVE HELD AN INTERNAL MEETING ON MARCH 2nd TO INITIATE THAT PROCESS. WE ARE REVIEWING A TIMELINE AND SURVEY QUESTIONS. THAT'S OUR FIRST KIND OF KICKOFF OF THE PROCESS, IS TO LOOK AT THAT TIMELINE, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE WE DOING? OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT FIRST AND THEN SURVEY QUESTIONS BEING ONE OF OUR FIRST STEPS IN THE PROCESS. SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT TO US. OUR COMMENTS ARE DUE BACK T THEM MEETING WITH THEM THIS WEEK TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON THE OUTCOMES OF THIS MEETING. AND JUST THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH GAP STRATEGIES. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS -- A GOOD, SOLID PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS WILL TAKE A NUMBER OF MONTHS BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WHERE YOU'RE LISTENING AND GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC WITH PROPOSED SOLUTIONS, MULTIPLE OPONS. YOU GEEDBAC ON THE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS. SO AGAIN, THAT PROCESS WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO DO RIGHT. SIMILAR, AGAIN, TO THE ARLINGTON PROCESS. SO ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, ZONING AMENDMENT TIMELINES. A REGULAR AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL RELATIVELY QUICKLY. ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS ARE DIFFERENT. THEY HAVE PRESCRIPTIVE STANDARDS BOTH IN THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS STATE LAW. WE NEED TO CAL A PUBLIC HEARING AT LEAST 36 DAYS PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THAT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE. SO AGAIN, THAT ADDS TO THE TIMELINE. I THINK THIS IS BECAUSE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES ARE MODIFYING PROPERTY RIGHTS, SO IT IS A VERY DELIBERATIVE PROCESS INTENTIONALLY. SO TYPICALLY ZONING CASES INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL THREE WEEKS BETWEEN P&Z CONSIDERATION AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE PROVIDED DURING THAT TIMEFRAME AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. SO THAT IS NOT A MANDATORY TIMEFRAME. WE CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED A DOUBLE NOTICE, WHICH ALLOWS A JOINT MEETING OF P&Z AND COUNCIL. AND SO WE CAN ESSENTIALLY NOTIFY FOR P&Z CONSIDERATION AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT STILL WOULD REQUIRE THE 36 DAYS. BUT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE ADDITIONAL THREE WEEKS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THAT BEING THE CASE, THE TIMELINE, IF P&Z WERE TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING AT THEIR MEETING ON THE 20th, WHICH WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AGENDIZE THIS MONTH, THEN WE COULD HAVE A JOINT SESSION ON MAY THE 8th. IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER SEPARATELY, IT WOULD BE MAY THE 1st FOR P&Z AND MAY THE 22nd FOR CITY COUNCIL. SO THOSE ARE SOME SAMPLE TIMELINES OF KIND OF THE QUICKEST WE COULD GET SOMETHING THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS. AND THAT'S WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH GAP STRATEGIES. SO PENDING LEGISLATION, THERE IS A HOUSE BILL WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT IS PENDING RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. IT WOULD PREEMPT OUR LOCAL ZONING ACTION BECAUSE IT WOULD ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THERE WOULD BE A LIMITATION TO THE REGULATION THAT WE COULD PROVIDE IF THE STATE LAW WERE TO PASS. IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE REGISTRATION AND TO UPDATE THAT REGISTRATION. IT WOULD ALLOW US TO TAX AND HANDLE THE PAPERWORK FOR THAT. IT WOULD ALLOW PERMITTING. IT WOD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION ON NOISE, PARKING, AND TRASH DISPOSAL. AS LONG AS THOSE STANDARDS ARE UNIFORMLY APPLICABLE TO ALL RESIDENTIAL USES. SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY THERE'S ONE STANDARD FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ANOTHER FOR RESIDENTIAL USES. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD. SO AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS HOUSE BILL WILL WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS OR NOT, BUT WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU. THERE'S SOME OTHER LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT LIMITS THE FEES THAT COULD BE CHARGED. BUT THIS, AGAIN, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS -- WE'RE TRACKING THIS THROUGH THE LEGLATURE AND WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PROCEEDS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR -- >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. CAN YOU FORWARD SLIDES FOR ME? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GUIDANCE FROM COURT DECISIONS IN REGULATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED BY OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL, RICHARD ABER ABERNATHY, TO YOU LAST YEAR. THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LINGTON AND PLANO. SO WHAT REGULATIONS ARE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE? WE KNOW THAT REGISTRATION AND LICENSING HAS BEEN UPHELD, AND WE CAN REQUIRE SAFETY GUIDELINES, REQUIRE PEOPLE TO ESTABLISH A POINT OF CONTACT AND RESPOND WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS. BUT WE HAVE TO AVOID CREATING SPECIAL RULES THAT ONLY APPLY TO STRs. FOR EXAMPLE, A LICENSING REGULATION CANNOT BE USED TO REVOKE A LICENSE FOR A SINGLE NOISE COMPLAINT OR IMPLEMENT UNCONSTITUTIONAL CONDITIONS FOR ISSUANCE. WE KNOW NOW THAT THERE'S NO PROPERTY RIGHT IN A LICENSE RENEWAL. THE FIFTH CIRCUIT CAME OUT WITH A CASE, AND THAT IS THE COURT, THE APPELLATE COURT THAT GOVERNS OUR JURISDICTION, AND IT SAID THERE IS NO PROPERTY RIGHT IN A LICENSE. AND THAT'S A CITY OF NEW ORLEANS CASE. AND WE KNOW THAT ANY FEE, FINE, REGISTRATION COMPLIANCE MUST BE REASONABLE AND NOT EXCESSIVE TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL. SO WHAT REGULATIONS ARE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE IF THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY DATA AS WE N ZONE IN, WE MUST GO THROUGH THE STANDARD ZONING PROCESS, HAVE IT REVIEWED BY P&Z AND NOTICE IN PUBLIC HEARING. AS CHRISTINA POINTED OUT, WE CAN KIND OF DO THAT CONSECUTIVELY TO MOVE UP THE TIMELINES. BUT IF AN STR USE EXISTS IN AN AREA THAT LATER BECOMES RESTRICTED THROUGH ZONING, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE PRE-EXISTING USES BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN REGULATING IN THIS AREA, AND THAT'S KNOWN AS GRANDFATHERING. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE OF CONSTITUTIONAL TAKINGS CLAIMS, CONSTITUTIONAL RETROACTIVITY CLAIMS. WE KNOW THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN TRIED TO PHASE OUT A CERTAIN CLASS OF STR USES OVER TIME, AND THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE COURT TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONALLY RETROACTIVE AND ALSO CONSTITUTIONAL DUE PROCESS CLAIMS. SO WE HAVE -- Y'ALL HAVE BEEN CONTACTED AND WE KNOW THAT ARLINGTON DID NOT GRANDFATHER OFTEN. WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? WHAT WE KNOW IS ARLINGTON HAD REWRITTEN THEIR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN 2014, WAY BEFORE THEY CONSIDERED STRs. THEY HAD A GLOBAL REWRITE AND PUT IN A DEFINITION PROHIBITING STR IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT WAS ACTUALLY IN ALL RESIDENTIAL BUT ENDED UP BENEFITTING THEM IN NOT GRANDFATHERING IN SINGLE FAMILY. YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THEY HAD A HOUSEHOLD LIVING DEFINITION THAT SAID TENANCY IS MONTH TO MONTH AND LODGING WHERE TENANCY IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS IS CLASSIFIED UNDER LODGING FACILITIES. SO THEY HAD SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS THAT AFTER THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR STR PROCESS, THEY RELIED ON TO INDICATE THAT THAT USE HAD BEEN PROHIBITED IN SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WHAT THEY ALSO DID, THE COUNCIL IN ARLINGTON, WAS STILL EVEN THOUGH THE USES WERE ILLEGAL IN SINGLE FAMILY, THEY ALLOWED A PERIOD OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO RECOVER THE RENTALS THAT THEY HAD BOOKED FOR -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TIMEFRAMES. BUT THEY WERE SHORT TIMEFRAMES TO KIND OF LET THEM RUN THAT OUT UNTIL THEY STARTED ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE. SO WHAT CAN T CITY DO? WE COULD DEVELOP A NUISANCE ORDINANCE SO A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS YOU'RE HEARING ARE ABOUT THE SHOOTINGS AND THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON AT THESE PROPERTIES. AND WE DO HAVE OTHER LAWS THAT CAN DEAL WITH THOSE. BUT WE COULD HAVE A NUISANCE ORDINANCE. WE'D NEED TO APPLY IT CITYWIDE AND NOT JUST TO STR USES, AND DEAL WITH EXCESSIVE NUISANCES GOING ON AT THESE PROPERTIES. WE CAN'T THROUGH THOSE NUISANCE ORDINANCES RESTRICT ASSEMBLY RIGHTS BECAUSE THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THEIRST AMENDMENT. AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO APPLY IT CITYWIDE. MESQUITE ADOPTED THIS ORDINANCE. I KNOW SOMEONE MENTIONED THEY HAD A PROBLEM. WE COULD USE THIS, COUNCIL, IF YOU HAD A REGISTRATION AND PERMITTING PROGRAM TO THEN IF PEOPLE WERE CONVICTED OR CHARGED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, TO IMMEDIATELY SUSPEND THEM AND KIND OF REVOKE THEIR PERMIT RIGHTS, SO WE COULD USE THAT IN A DUAL MANNER. WHAT REGULATIONS ARE NOT DEFENSIBLE IN RESTRICTING ASSEMBLY AT STR PROPERTIES, THAT CITY OF AUSTIN CASE. WE CAN'T HAVE OCCUPANCY RESTRICTIONS MORE THAN OTHERS. THAT HAS BEEN STRUCK DOWN BY THE COURTS. WE CAN'T HAVE A CITYWIDE BAN OF STRs. THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED, IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED, IT'S NOT PROHIBITED. THAT IS WHAT THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE CASE IS LITIGATING RIGHT NOW. IT'S STILL GOING THROUGH THE COURTS, AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON THAT ISSUE. AND WE KNOW THAT SUNSET OR PHASING OUT OF STRs OVER TIME WAS NOT UPHELD IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN CASE. WHAT WE CAN DO, THOUGH, THROUGH THE REGISTRATION AND PERMITTING ORDINANCES, IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED BY A CERTAIN DATE, YOU'RE NOT RECOGNIZED AS LEGAL. IF THERE'S VIOLATIONS, WE CAN SUSPEND YOUR PERMIT. EVEN IF YOU'RE A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE, WHICH IS GRANDFATHERING. IF YOU DO NOT REGISTER FROM YEAR TO YEAR, YOU HAVE ABANDONED THAT USE. IT WILL HELP US TRACK MORE WHO IS LEGAL, WHO IS NOT, AND WHO IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED AS LEGAL. WKNOW THAT THE FIFTH CIRCUIT ALSO SAID THIS SUMMER THAT WE CANNOT HAVE OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN, THAT IS THE APPELLATE COURT THAT DIRECTLY CONTROLS THE LAW IN THIS CITY. SO THAT WAS DONE BY SOME CITIES PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE CAN NO LONGER DO THAT. AND WE CANNOT RELY UPON CURRENT ZONING DEFINITIONS. AND SOME O YOU SAY THE HOTELS, MOTELS, BED AND BREAKFAST, ALTHOUGH THOSE SEEM VERY SIMILAR, THERE'S SOME TH DO NOT DECTLY APPLY. ANDS WHEN THE CONTEXT OF THE HOA CASES, THEY TRIED TO FIT IT INTO DEFINITIONS THEY DIDN'T -- THEY ALREADY HAD. SO THEY TRIED TO SAY THAT A RESIDENTIAL USE WAS REALLY A COMMERCIAL USE IF IT WAS AN STR, AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HAS STRUCK THAT DOWN, AND ALSO THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE CASE. SO WE'RE JUST RELYING ON THE COURTS TO GIVE YOU GUIDANCE ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE. AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, AS I SAID. I WANT TO -- YEAH, THAT'S IT. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. SO WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO FRAME SOME STR ORDINANCES THAT CHRISTINA DAY TALKED ABOUT, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE P&Z TO EITHER JOINT MEETING WITH US OR GIVE US THE PROPOSAL, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE. I'LL REALLY JUST KIND OF LET COUNCILMAN SMITH GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALL COLLECTIVELY PUT ON AN AGENDA HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU START, COUNCILMAN SMITH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> Smith: THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO GIVE RELIEF TO OUR RESIDENTS. IT'S A TOUGH, TIGHTROPE THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO WALK HERE BECAUSE WHILE I THINK WE ALL WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE. BECAUSE WHAT DOES NO GOOD IS FOR US TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEFENSIBLE, AND WE WOULD BE ENJOINED SOON AFTER WE DO IT, WHICH WOULD TOTALLY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO GET ANYTHING DONE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN -- AND WE'LL LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL -- IS TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO DO SOME IMMEDIATE RELIEF, WHICH I SAY TO IMPLEMENT A TEMPORARY BAN ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING AREAS. AND ALONG WITH THAT, TO GO AHEAD AND DO OUR PERMITTING PROCESS SO WE CAN GET A FIRM NUMBER ON THE EXACT AMOUNT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW AND TO BE CERTAIN THAT ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT BE CONSIDERING DOING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPLIES WITH OUR TEMPORARY BAN ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY ELSE AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME RELIEF GOING FOR OUR RESIDENTS AT THIS TIME. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER? >> Holmer: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR SPEAKING, ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE SENT E-MAILS AND CALLED US. WE HEAR YOU. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. THEY ARE REAL. THEY ARE SERIOUS. AND WE WANT PLANO TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD-FRIENDLY TOWN AND CITY OFEXCELLEN. SO I CONCUR WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SMITH SAID ABOUT IMPLEMENTING AN IMMEDIATE BAN. I SEE YOUR SIGNS, REMOVAL IS THE REMEDY. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT A BAN, BUT AS COUNCILMEMBER SMITH SAID AND OUR LEGAL ADVICE HAS TOLD US THAT DOING JUST AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD BAN IS NOT REALLY A RESPONSIBLE DECISION FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WILL MOST PROBABLY LEAD TO LITIGATION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE STEPS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU WHILE ALSO MAKINGURE THAT WE ARE DOING FIDUCIARY, BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS. I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT REGISTRATION DOESN'T GIVE PROPERTY RIGHTS. I KNOW THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. IN NEW ORLEANS, THEY DID HAVE THE FINDING THAT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. ALSO, IF WE ARE TO PUT A BAN IN PLACE, IT WILL NEED TO BE FOR NEW PROPERTIES. WE WILL NEED TO GRANDFATHER TO LIMIT LITIGATION SITUATIONS THERE. WE DID HEAR TONIGHT FROM SOMEONE THAT HAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL HERE. I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THIS DOES GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW RULES, TO BE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, THE PERSON WHO SPOKE LIVES IN HIS HOME PART OF THE TIME, NOT YEAR ROUND. SO I DID HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING THESE ARE NOT NEIGHBORS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE PROVIDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO BE FAIR TO THE PERSON WHO SPOKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE IS A NEIGHBOR HERE IN PLANO. HE DOES LIVE IN HIS HOME PART OF THE YEAR. SO -- IS THAT NOT -- I'M SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. >> Mayor Muns: IT'S OKAY. >> Holmer: ANYWAY, SO YES. WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE. WE HEAR YOU. WE WANT TO TAKE STEPS TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PLANO AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO LIVE, BUT WE WANT TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT LIMITS LITIGATION AND IS A SMOOTH PROCESS FOR EVERYONE. >> Mayor Muns: COUILMEER LLIAMS? >> Williams: I HAVE QUITE A BIT TO SAY. SO WE MAY BE HERE A WHILE. AT THE LAST MEETING, I REQUESTED THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE MOST FOLKS SHOWED UP TO SPEAK DURING COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. BUT THE SIGNS EVERYBODY WAS HOLDING UP THEN REALLY REFLECTED MY FEELINGS AT THE TIME. THEY SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THIS REALLY FIRST CAME ON MY RADAR IN 2019 WHEN THERE WAS A SHOOTING AND A MURDER AT A PARTY HOUSE IN EAST PLANO. AND THAT'S WHEN, AT AST FROM MY FIRST PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I'D ONLY BEEN ELECTED THAT YEAR -- WE REALLY STARTED DIGGING INTO THIS. I'M SURE THIS WAS ON PEOPLE'S RADAR PRIOR TO THAT. THEN WE ALL KIND OF GOT DISTRACTED BY THE EVENTS OF 2020. IT WAS YOU ALL COMING HERE FOR THE PAST YEAR THAT REALLY PUT THIS PROMINENTLY BACK ON THE RADAR. FOR THAT, I THANK YOU. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PIECEMEAL DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR. THAT'S WHY I HAVE A LOT TO SAY NOW. THIS IS THE FIRST MEATY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IN OPEN SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS AND GET IT OUT ON THE TABLE. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT WE HAVE THREE ZONING CATEGORIES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BED AND BREAKFAST INN, MOTEL, HOTEL, AND BOARDING ROOMING HOUSE. BACK WHEN THESE DEFINITIONS WERE WRITTEN, A CONCEPT LIKE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A PLACE LIKE PLANO JUST WASN'T A THING. YOU KNOW, IISITED SARASOTA, FLORIDA LAST SUMMER AND TOOK OUT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THEY ARE PERMITTED THERE. THEY'VE BEEN A THING IN BEACH TOWNS, SKI TOWNS, ENTERTAINMENT TOWNS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. MAYBE IF I EVER RUN FOR SARASOTA CITY COUNCIL, I'LL TRY TO CHANGE THAT. RIGHT NOW, I SERVE ON PLANO CITY COUNCIL. A FEW THINGS TO COVER. WE SAW -- WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE SUPPOSEDLY FEW CALLS FOR SERVICE REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND WE'VE DONE THIS BACK-OF-THE-ENVELOPE MATH BEFORE. AND YES, WHILE SHORT-TERM RENTALS MIGHT HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR 1.7% OF ALL THE CALLS FOR SERVICE BY THE POLICE, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IF WE ASSUME 600 SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY, ACCOUNT FOR 1/2 OF 1% OF ALL OF OUR HOUSING, WHICH MEANS -- (APPLAUSE) -- WHICH MEANS THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, HAVE MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS MANY CALLS FOR SERVICE AS AN AVERAGE RESIDENCE. YES, TRE AESPOIBLE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS. I AM A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER. I STILL CAN'T GO TO TARGET PRACTICE IN MY BACKYARD. JUST CAN'T. AND I ACCEPT THAT. (APPLAUSE) I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT NOT BEING ABLE TO TARGET PRACTICE IN MY BACKYARD IS A VIOLATION OF MY PROPERTY RIGHTS OR DON'T PUNISH ME JUST BECAUSE OF SOME BAD ACTORS. SO I'M GOING TO READ SOME OF THESE DEFINITIONS HERE. SO BEAR WITH ME, PLEASE. BED AND BREAKFAST INN, AN OWNER OR OPERATOR OCCUPIED RESIDENCE. RIGHT THERE, THAT'S WHY THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THIS ORDINANCE WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1993 WHEN NOBODY THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE ONE OF THESE ON WHICH THEY PULL UP AN APP AND LOOK FOR AVAILABLE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE AREA. WITH UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS AVAILABLE FOR OVERNIGHT GUESTS. A BED AND BREAKFAST INN MAY PROVIDE UP TO 14 CONSECUTIVE DAYS HOWEVER, SHOULD NOT OFFER WEEKLY RENTAL RATES. KITCHEN AND DINING INCLUDED, HOWEVER, NO FOOD PREPARATION PERMITTED IN GUEST BEDROOMS. SHALL NOT INCLUDE RESTAURANTS, BANQUET FACILITIES OR SIMILAR. A LOT OF UP WITH THAT VERY FINITE DEFINITION. SO THE NEXT ONE IS MOTEL/HOTEL. A BUILDING OR GROUP OF BUILDINGS DESIGNED FOR AND OCCUPIED AS A TEMPORARY DWELLING PLACE OF INDIVIDUALS AND PVIDING FR OR MORE ROOMS SUITABLE FOR DAILY OR LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY. HOTEL SERVICES, INCLUDING DAILY HOUSEKEEPING AND UPKEEP OF FURNISHINGS MUST BE PROVIDED. THEREIN LIES THE RUB. DOESN'T APPLY TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS UNLESS YOU ONLY RENT IT FOR ONE DAY AND THEN THEY HAPPEN TO COME CLEAN UP AFTER YOU. BUT IF YOU'RE STAYING FOR TWO DAYS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. THEREFORE, DOESN'T COUNT. BOARDING/ROOMING HOUSE. A RESIDENT -- THIS IS THE SHORTEST ONE. A RESIDENCE OR DWELLING EXCLUDING HOTELS AND HOUSEHOLD CARE FACILITIES WHEREIN THREE OR MORE ROOMS ARE RENTED EITHER BY WRITTEN OR ORAL AGREEMENT. THIS SEEMS TO FIT THE BILL. NOW, I THINK IN SOME PLACES, A BOARDING HOUSE IS CATEGORIZED AS INDIVIDUAL ROOMS RENTED OUT ON A SEPARATE BASIS. WE DON'T SPECIFY THAT IN HERE. OUT OF THE THREE, THIS ONE DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DATE, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE IT'S THE OLDEST ONE. I MAY BE INCORRECT ABOUT THAT. LONG BEFORE WE EVER CONCEIVED OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A PLACE LIKE PLANO. I, FOR ONE, WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO THE MAT TO TAKE THIS INTERPRETATION AND PUT IT INTO THE ARLINGTON MODEL TO SAY WE ALREADY DISALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS BY THAT NUANCE OF LANGUAGE. I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY HERE, BUT I'D STILL BE WILLING TO GO TO THE MAT. BUT I'M NOT A LAWYER, AND I DON'T EVEN PLAY ONE ON TV. NOW -- (APPLAUSE) -- OUR POLICE HAVE BEEN HANDCUFFED -- NO PUN INTENDED -- FOR A LONG TIME, BECAUSE WHE THEY RESPOND TO ISSUES AT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THEY HAVE TO APPLY THE LAW THE SAME THERE AS ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY WHERE THEY'RE CALLED FOR SERVICE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF MOST OF THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SOMETIMES BY THE TIME IT'S REPORTED, IT'S TOO LATE. THEY'RE GONE. SOMETIMES IF THERE'S A REPEAT OCCURRENCE, WELL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, BUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ISSUE THERE, THEY'RE LONG GONE. AND SO THE POLICE ARE LEFT UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING. (APPLAUSE) NOW, REGARDING PROPERTY RIGHTS. I THINK ANYBODY WILL BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND A LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IS A MORE ARDENT DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES IN TEXAS THAN I AM OR OF PROPERTY RIGHTS. WE KNOW THAT PROPERTY RIGHTS AREN'T ABSOLUTE. IF THEY WERE, THEN WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. WE'D BE SAYING WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ZONING AT ALL. BECAUSE IT'S AN UNDUE IMPINGEMENT ON PROPERTY RIGHTS. NOBODY BELIEVES AT. HE QUESTION IS, AND THE REASON PROPERTY RIGHTS AREN'T ABSOLUTE, BECAUSE IN A PLACE LIKE PLANO WHERE WE DON'T ALL HAVE 100 ACRES TO OURSELVES, WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PROPERTY DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES THAT HOMEOWNERS HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS TOO. AND ON THAT NOTE, THE PARTY HOUSES, THE BROTHELS, THE SHOOTINGS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE HEADLINES. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY THINGS PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT OVER THE PAST YEAR. WE HAVE HEARD VERY CSISTTLY THAT EVEN IF THEY'VE NEVER CAUSED A PROBLEM, HAVING A COUPLE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AROUND THEM PROMOTES UNCERTAINTY. IT ERODES THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, THE WORD IS BUILT INTO THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBOR. PEOPLE CAME TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THEY LIVE IN, IN PLANO, OR CHOSE TO REMAIN THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT AN ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT WITH A REVOLVING DOOR. WE MADE A PROMISE WHEN WE BUILT THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE AND PEOPLE BEFORE US, BEFORE I EVE CAME TO PLANO 20 YEARS AGO. WHEN WE BUILT THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, WE MADE A PROMISE WITH A VALUE PROPOSITION THAT YOU WOULD GET SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, WHICH MAYOR, YOU WERE A LARGE PART OF THAT, AND WE WOULD BE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. WE'VE NEVER SET ANY EXPECTATION -- THIS COUNCIL OR ANY COUNCIL BEFORE US HAS NEVER SET ANY EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THE ONLY WAY IN WHICH IT COULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED THAT WHAVE DONE SO IS BECAUSE WE WERE CAUGHT FLAT-FOOTED BY THE ADVENT OF THESE APPS AND HAVE NOT GOT WITH THE PROGRAM YET. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT THIS SITUATION AND SAY WE HAVE EVER PERMITTED IT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES REGULATING VTAL EITHER. BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR INFANCY. WE CAN EITHER GET ON THE CURVE NOW OR WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THINK IS REASONABLE, WHICH IS SEE WHAT EVOLVES BEFORE WE DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. SAME WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THIS WASN'T A THING WHEN WE DEVELOPED OUR ZONING ORDINANCES. SO I SAY WE OWE IT TO EVERYBODY WHO CHOSE TO MOVE TO OR REMAIN IN PLANO AND ACCEPTED THE VALUE PROPOSITION THAT WE SOLD THEM TO RECOGNIZE WHAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE WAS THE OVERWHELMING INTENT IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCES, IS THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND LEASES WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND IF I HAD TO STAKE EVERYTHING ON THIS BOARDING/ROOMING HOUSE DEFINITION, I PERSONALLY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT. (APPLAUSE) (APPLAUSE) NOW, I'M MINDFUL OF THE LEGAL PROCESS, AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THESE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS, I'M WILLING TO DO. AND I'M ALSO A BELIEVER IN NOT PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDE PEOPLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE MINIMUM A TEMPORARY BAN LEADING TO A PERMANENT BAN WHERE WE GET ALL OF OUR DUCKS IN A ROW. AND I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO AFFORD A WIND-DOWN PERIOD IF WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL, A WIND-DOWN PERIOD FOR EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS SO THAT THEY CAN GRACEFULLY RECOUP SOME OF THE MONEY THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THEIR PROPERTY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AFTERWARDS. I THINK SIX MONTHS IS REASONABLE. I THINK THE SIGNS EVERYBODY HELD UP LAST MEETING SAY IT ALL. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> Ricciardelli: MR. MAYOR, I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT OF ORDER. I KNOW WE'RE GOING AROUND. BUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BROUGHT UP A LEGAL QUESTION FOR ME. I WAS WONDERING IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL LEGAL MATTER. >> PERFECT. I DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW SHELBY. (LAUGHTER) >> Ricciardelli: WELL, I'M GLAD THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM IS IN FAVOR. >> (OFF MIC) >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. WE'LL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE. [CLOSED SESSION]. >> Mayor Muns: I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS NOW CONVENED IN OPEN SESSION. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Tu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS FORGOTTEN WHAT COUNCWOMAN LLIA HADAID PREVIOUSLY. [LAUGHTER]. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO START AFRESH. WE'RE GOING TO -- I BELIEVE THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONSIDERING IS WHAT IS THE DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND WHERE ARE WE GOING AND WHAT ARE WE DIRECTING OUR STAFF TO -- HOW IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD? AND I'LL JUST POSE MY CONCERNS. I THINK NOBODY IS IN -- EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT THAT -- WITH SHEY THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE SITTING HERE TODAY SAYING OH, NO, WE WANT BUSINESSES, WE WANT PROFITS AND WE DON'T WANT NEIGHBORS, WE DON'T WANT FAMILIES. I DON'T THINK THAT IS ANY OF OUR INTENTS. WE SIT HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE PLANO AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF PLANO IS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. HOWEVER, I ALSO BEING A LAWYER, I REALIZE WHY LAWS ARE CREATED AND THERE'S A REASON FOR LEGAL PROCESS. EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT THIS I THINK ABOUT MAKING MEALS FOR SOME REASON. DON'T ASK ME WHY. BUT IN OUR IS IT GENERATION, IN OUR NEW GENERATION, WE THINK ABOUT MEALS AS MCDONALD'S, FAST FOODS, BURGER KING, UBER. AND NOBODY -- AND A MICROWAVE. BUT GETTING THAT FOOD AND GETTING THE RESULT OF THAT FOOD VERSUS A HOME COOKED ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND CUT UP ALL THE INGREDIENTS, MAKING SURE THAT EVERY PORTION IS CORRECTLY WHEN THEY'RE PUT INTO THE POT, THE RESULT IS THE SAME. IT GOES INTO YOUR STOMACH, BUT YET THE PROCESS ITSELF IS WHAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS CORRECTLY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERY STEP THAT WE TAKE IS DEFENSIBLE, FOR NOT ONLY -- FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE CING PROBLEMS, BUT F ALL FUTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE MAY FACE WITH REGARD TO THIS TYPE OF ISSUE, NOT JUST THIS ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE, BUT ALL RELATED ISSUES. AND I SAY RELATED BECAUSE MORE THAN JUST WHEN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL CAME UP, ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT IS PEOPLE INVESTING IN OUR NEIGHBORS AND BUYING INVESTMENT PROPERTIES, BUT INSTEAD OF RENTING THEM LIKE REGULAR RENTS AND THEY RENT THEM FOR, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM RENTALS AND LONG-TERM LEASES, THEY WOULD CUT UP THESE HOUSES AND MAKE THEM INTO INDIVIDUAL BOARDING ROOMS. AND THEN LEASING THEM TO STRANGERS. SO YOU WOULD HAVE 10 OR 15 STRANGERS IN ONE HOUSE. SO TALK ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THAT IS ALMOST COMPARABLE TO HAVING 10 OR 15 STRANGERS LIVING IN ONE HOME, SAME THING. SO WHEN WE'RE DEALI WITH ISSUES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY --, RELATED TO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WE SHOULD PROBABLY ALSO LOOK AT THINGS, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'RE NOT JUST SOLVING ISSUE, BUT WE'RE SOLVING THE ISSUES THAT WILL RELATE AND DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR CHILDRE ALL TOGETHER. SO IS STR NOT ACCEPTABLE IN EVERYWHERE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE IF THE DISNEY GOLF COURSE OR THE DISNEYWORLD THAT FRISCO IS GOING TO BE BUILDING I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS OVER THERE BECAUSE IT'S A DESTINATION FOR ENTERTAINMENT RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO TO. BUT IN OUR FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE SCHOOLS ANDS NOT SO GOOD. SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TO THINK OF DIFFERENT METHODS OF MAKING SURE THAT STR STAYS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT IS POTENTIALLY NECESSARY FOR THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO EXIST VERSUS WHERE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD REMAIN. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I LIKE TO HAVE CPLET WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH POTENTIALLY POSSIBLY A BAN OR ORDINANCES IN THE FUTURE. HOW IS THAT GOING TO LONG-TERM AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO DO A PERMANENT BAN ON PARTY HOUSES, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT IF I HAD A FAMILY OF 20 WHO IS COMING OVER AND HAVING A FAMILY REUNION IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT ME? CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE PARTY HOUSES TO BE ALL BANNED, BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO HAVE A PARTY WITH BARBECUES FOR MY RELATIVES AND DISTANT RELATIVES FOR A WEEKEND? IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT ME? AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO AFFECT ME PERMANENTLY. I DON'T WANT TO CERTAINLY ALWAYS HAVE TO USE THE CRUISE IN ORDER TO HAVE LARGE FAMILY PARTIES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PARTY IN MY HOUSE IF IT'S ABLE TO ACCOMPANY THEM. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES I WOULD LIKE TO TAL ABOUT. HOW MANY CARS IS TOO MANY CARS? IF I HAVE A HOUSE OF TEENAGERS AND EVERYONE HAS CARS, IS THAT TOO MANY CARS? THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT THOSE ARE -- THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND NOT JUST MAKE A UNIFORM BAN, LIKE WELL, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, BUT IT WILL AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR FAMILIES AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. NOISES? HOWUCH NOI IS O MUCH NOISE? HOW MUCH NOISE IS ACCEPTABLE NOISE AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER. I BELIEVE THAT HAVING DATA IS CRUCIAL IN ANY DECISIONS THAT FUTURE AND LONG CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE SO YOU WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE CONTINUE ON THE ROUTE OF GATHERING MORE DA DATA. IN THE MEANTIME WHILE WE'RE GATHERING DATA I DON'T WANT PROBLEMSO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONCURRENT ROUTE WHERE WE HAVE THE GATHERING OF DATA, THE REGISTERING OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY USING THEIR INVESTMENT OR OWN HOME AS STR OR ANY TYPE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND GETTING THEM REGISTERED, COLLECTING THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION COLLECTING EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO OF HOW WE COULD CONTACT THEM IN CASE OF EMERGENCY. AT THE SAME TIME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM, A BAN ON ANY TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT HAS TO DO WITH RENTALS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS SPECIFICALLY RENTALS ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS. AND THAT WAY THEN WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT OUR DATA IS ACCURATE AND IT WOULD NEVER CONTINUE TO LOSE FOCUS BECAUSE IT KEEPS INCREASING HERE AND THEN IT KEEPS REDUCING HERE. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT, PAIGE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK IT WAS--IC CHRISTINE WAS TALKING ABOUT DOING A JOINT SESSION IS PLANNING AND ZONING THAT WAY WE COULD NOT HAVE THE THREE WEEKS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE FOR CODE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THE SOONEST POSSIBLE IS 36 DAYS, IS THAT RIGHT? IS IT 36 DAYS? IT HAS TO BE 36 DAYS? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO THAT WOULD BE IN APRIL? >> IT WAS MAY EIGHTH WAS THE FIRST COUNCIL DATE WE CLD GET TO. >> Tu: SO I'D LIKE TO SEE A JOINT SESSION OF PLANNING AND ZONING AT THE FIRST AVAILABLE DATE SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME TYPE OF DECISION MADE WITH REGARD TO A POTENTIAL MORATORIUM OR TEMPORARY BAN. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT AS LONG AS WE CAN STOP THE PROCESS HERE SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE THE PROCESS HERE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE UNTIL WE COULD CONFIDENTLY -- FOR YOU TO COSTLY COME IN FRONT OF US AGAIN AND SAY I'VE GOT ENOUGHATA NOW AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN TRY TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN FOR PAIGE TO COME AND TELL US THAT WITHIN OBVIOUSLY A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE ABLE TO LEGALLY DEFEND CERTAIN TYPES OF ACTIONS. AND THERE'S SOME RISK BUT WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK IN CERTAIN TYPE OF ACTIONS. I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT A HEAT OF PASSION TO RESULT IN OUR CITY SPENDS YEARS OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS IN LITIGATIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I THINK THAT'S THE WRONG WAY TO GO. I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR FAMILIES ARE PROTECTED, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO SO IN THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY, ONE STEP AT A TIME. TO MAKE SURE THAT EVENTUALLY IT WILL PASS ON FOREVER AND REVER. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. SO FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT WE SHOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL. AND I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS THE REASON THEY LIKE THAT IS, 1, IT'S SHOWN THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL IN THE COURTS. IT INVOLVED A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION AND IT ALSO INVOLVED A LOT OF OUTREACH WHERE WE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS. AND SO ALL OF THOSE THREE THINGS I THINK AREREAT AND A GREAT PROCESS AND IT WAS PROVEN TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOWN THAT PROCESS, BUT THAT PROCESS AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED WILL TAKE SOME TIME FOR US TO DO IT WELL. SO IN THE MEANTIME I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE OUR POLICE AND OUR STAFF MORE TOOLS TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE WITH THIS SITUATION. AND SO I WOULD LIKE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO PASS THE PERMIT AND REGISTRATION SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE ABILITY TO REGULATE THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND I'M OPEN TO LOOKING AT WHAT A PARTY ORDINANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE MPORY BAN, THAT GETS BROUGHT BACK, BEFORE I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT. I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY REGULATE THAT AND WHAT THE STAFF WOULD NEED TO REGULATE THAT, AND THEN HOW LONG IS TEMPORARY? HOW LONG WOULD WE BE BANNING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER? >> I THINK WE NEED TO START ON NEXT SIDE AND THEN MOVE OVER. >> I SWITCH IT UP OCCASIONALLY. [LAUGHTER]. AND I ALSO THINK MAYBE A NUISANCE BAN WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. [LAUGHTER]. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS LAID A LOT OF CARDS ON THE TABLE MADE IT CLEAR WITH THEIR CARDS ON THE TABLE AND IF I COULD MAKE STRs DISAPPEAR, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. OBVIOUSLY I DON'T HAVE A MAGIC WAND AND GUARANTEED I WOD CEAINLY MAKE STRs NOT A BUSINESS ELEMENT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT PROPERTIES SO THAT THEY CAN ROBOT IT OUT. IT'S A BUSINESS MODEL. IT'S WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT I'M FIRMLY IN THE CAMP, IN THE SHELBY CAMP WHERE I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE STRs HAS BEEN ABUSED BEYOND BELIEF. I BELIEVE THAT THE PROCESS AND THE PREMISE THAT THEY OPERATE WITH HAS BEEN ABUSED BEYOND BELIEF. I BELIEVE THAT THE CORPORATIONS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR PROPERTIES UP SO THEY CAN RENT THEM FOR A WEEKEND OR AN EVENING AND HAVE A BOISTEROUS PARTY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO HAS BEEN ABUSED BEYOND BELIEF. SO IN MY THINKING OF ALL OF THIS, I THINK FIRST IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL STUDY WITHIN THE CITY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US NOT TO LOOK AT THIS AS A SERIAL PROCESS, BUT A PARALLEL PROCESS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS THATE NEED TO DO AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF THESE THINGS IN PARALLEL SO THAT IT RAPIDLY GETS TO A CONCLUSION RATHER THAN DOING ONE THEN THE NEXT AND THEN THE NEXT. I AM CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF DOING A T TEMPORARY BAN. [APPLAUSE]. I REALLY THINK THAT A PERMITTINGY IF IT HAS SOME KIND OF TEETH IN IT AND IT HAS SOME KIND OF STRIKE RULE. LIKE A THREE STRIKE RULE. AND IF YOU HAVE A SECOND ONE AND TAKE A SWING, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENT TO ME. I THINK THE PERMIT PROCESS OUGHT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN IT WHERE IT SAYS IF YOU VIOLATE THIS, IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT COME OUT THERE AND BREAK UP SOME KIND OF WORLD PARTY THAT'S NUMBER ONE. IF THEY COME OUT THERE THE SECOND TIME, YOU'RE DONE. AND YOU WANT TO ROBOT FOR LONG-TERM OR SELL PROPERTY, THAT'S UP TO YOU BUT YOU DON'T GET YOUR PERMIT BACK. IT'S JUST GONE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CUTOFF AS TO WHEN THEY APPLY. AND IF THEY DON'T APPLY WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT. AND FINALLY AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE POWER TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THESE SITUATIONS AND ACT UPON THEM. AND A NUISANCE ORDINANCE WOULD BE CERTAINLY A WAY OF DOING THAT. A PARTY HOUSE BAN IS FINE WITH ME. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S& A NUISANCE IN THERE, IT'S ONE THING TO GO OUT THERE AND ASK THEM TO QUIET DOWN AND ANOTHER THING TO SAY IT'S DONE AND GIVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP IT AS SHORT AS I POSSIBLY CAN TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I AM NOT A REALLY STRONG BELIEVER IN SOMETHING THAT IS RENTED BY THE NIGHT. IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERN OF THE BILL THAT'S FLYING THROUGH THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW, HB2665, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT ONLY READ THE BILL, BUT READ ABOUT THE PERSON THAT FILED IT. AND FIND OUT WHAT HIS BACKGROUND IS. [APPLAUSE]. IT A SELF-SERVING BILL. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT AND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME RON. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SAID. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN ACUTE, IMMEDIATE PROBLEM AND THAT NECESSITATES AN ACUTE, IMMEDIATE SOLUTION. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S WISE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS I THINK MOST OF YOU, IF NOT ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT HAVE ENCOURAGED US TO DO TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON PROCESS BECAUSE OF HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT ARLINGTON PROCESS HAS PROVEN. AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE EVEN TIMETABLES THAT ARE NECESSARY WITH RESPECT TO ENACTING A ZONING ORDINANCE EVEN IF WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT PROCESS. SO THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WE NEED A TEMPORARY BAN BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE PROCESS THAT WILL PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO AND PREVENT THINGS FROM GETTING WORSE WHILE WE WORK ON A PERMANENT ORDINANCE TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE BY FOLLOWING THE ARTICLE SON PROCESS. THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY SPEAKERS WHO HAVE TALKED ABOUT SAFETY ISSUES RECENTLY. I'VE BEEN DEEPLY MOVED BY THAT. I THINK A REALLY KEY DATA POINT IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS IS THAT I STARTED OUT THINKING THAT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST PROBLEM SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH ARE THOSE THAT HAVE PARTIES, FIGHTS, AS WE NOW HAVE SEEN IN LIMITED INSTANCES, EVEN PROSTITUTION OR SHOOTINGS. SO I THINK IT GOES BEYOND THAT BECAUSE AS SO MANY OF YOU HAVE POINTED OUT, THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, COUNL MBERILLIS SPOKE TO THIS, IS ON THE LINE. IF WE HAVE A DETERIORATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE FILLED WITH NEIGHBORS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A DETRIMENTAL MOVE FOR THE CITY. MOREOVER, SHORT-TERM RENTALS OBVIOUSLY DON'T PUT STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS AND WE HAVE AREAS WHERE SCHOOL ENROLLMENT IS DECLINING. THAT OBVIOUSLY IMPACT PISD'S FUNDING. IT IMPACTS USE OF EXISTING SCHOOL FACILITIES. [APPLAUSE]. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. AND SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE PARTY HOUSES, THE PARTY HOUSES AND THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT THOSE CAUSE ARE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, MOST ACUTE ISSUE AND I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF ADDITIONAL ORDINANCES, A PARTY HOUSE TYPE ORDINANCE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT THAT OBVIOUSLY, AS EVERYONE HAS ARTICULATED, WOULD NOT BE A COMPLETE SOLUTION. I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, TO UNDERSCORE A POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS MADE, I THINK WE'VE BOTH BEEN AND I THINK OTHERS ON COUNCIL HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME IF EVEN 1.7% OF CALLS IN THE CITY ARE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, GIVEN THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE GOT ARE LESS THAN ONE% OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE CITY, MAYBE AROUND TWO-THIRDS OF A% WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE TIMES AS MANY CALLS FOR SERVICE PER RESIDENCES FOR SHOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS VERSUS NOT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SO THAT TO ME SAYS WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. I APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER WHO SPOKE ABOUT HIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL. I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO MANAGE THIS WELL AND HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT I KNOW IF WE ALLOWED BED AND BREAKFASTS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE MANAGING THOSE WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT WE JUST DON'T ALLOW BED AND BREAKFASTS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A USE THAT WE FOUND TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHETHER IT'S WELL MANAGED OR NOT. SO I THINK THAT'S ANALOGOUS HERE AND APPLIES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND SO ANYWAY, I THINK ULTIMATELY SINCE WE'LL HAVE A ZONING BASED APPROACH LIKE ARLINGTON, NOT A CITYWID BAN, WHATEVER IS OPERATING AFTER WE HAVE THAT PROCESS, WE WILL NEED A PERMITTING PROCESS WITH REFUSETATION LIKE THE TWO STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT RULE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY PROPOSED. AND SO AS AN IMMEDIATE STOPGAP I WOULD BACK A MORATORIUM, A TEMPORARY BAN AS WE WORK THROUGH THE ARLINGTON PROCESS TOWARDS A PERMANENT ORDINANCE. AND LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE USING A JOINT MEETING. SO THOSE ARE MY TUGHTS, THANK Y'ALL. [APPLAUSE]. >> HERE'S WHAT I HAVE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ARLINGTON APPROACH IN REGARD TO DATA COLLECTION, REGISTRATION, PUBLIC INPUT. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONSIDER TEMPORARY BAN, GOING THROUGH THOSE ZONING APPROACH, AND CONSIDERING PARTY ORDINANCE, PARTY HOUSE ORDINANCE. THE ONE THING YOU DO NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WE WILL CONTINUE --A CONTINUAL JOURNEY FOR US TO MONITOR AND FORCE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, NOT ANY ONE TIME WILL THIS END. SO WE'RE ADDING THIS TO AND WILL GO ON FOR THIS AS LONG SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND MOVE FORWARD WITH. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN THAT YOU WANT INCLUDED AS A CONSIDERATION IN THIS? OKAY. IF EVERYBODY WILL NOD YOUR HEAD AND SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF SAFETY HERE IN PLANO. WE FEEL THE SAME WAY. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 54 YEARS. I LOVE THIS CITY. IT WAS JUST A TOWN BACK THEN. AND SO I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THE REPUTATION OF PLANO, THE SAFETY OF PLANO AND I WANT EVERYONE HEAR AND ALL THOSE THAT AREN'T HERE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT IS PROTECTING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF PLANO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. ANY ITEM -- OKAY. ITEM 5, COUNCIL ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS. >> MAYOR, AT THE LAST MEETING I HAD REQUESTED THAT WE BRING THIS ORDINANCE UP I BELIEVE AT THE FIRST MEETING OF APRIL. I'D LIKE TO MODIFY IT TO THAT TO SAY AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE OR AS SOON AS LEGALLY POSSIBLE. PRECIATE TT. I THINKHRISTINA WILL HELP US WITH THAT DATE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PINPOINT THAT ACCURATELY HERE. >> I JUST THINK LEGALLY I HAD TO REVERSE MY SPECIFIC DATE REQUEST FROM THE LAST MEETING. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> DO I NEED A SECOND FOR THAT? >> Mayor Muns: OH, YEAH. >> SECOND! >> JUST TRYING TO CROSS ALL THE T'S AND DOT ALL THE I'S. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES O ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ITEMS ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND WE DO HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS THIS EVENING IF I CAN FIND MY SHEET. THE FIRST ONE IS IRVIN MOLUK. >> I AM A RESIDENT RESIDENT OF PLANO. I MOVED SIX MONTHS AGO FROM SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. I'M A COMPUTER SCIENTIST. MY WIFE IS AS WELL A COMPUTER SCIENTIST. WE HAVE THREE TEENAGERS THAT ARE ENROLLED IN THE ACTIVITIES IN SCHOOLING IN THE PLANO AREA. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO WITNESS THAT CITY OF PLANO. IT IS INDEED CITY OF EXCELLENCE. I WAS LOOKING INTO OTHER CITIES TO MOVE IN AND MY RESEARCH SHOWED THAT PLANO HAD -- WAS ON THE TOP OF MY LIST. SO I PURCHASED A PROPERTY NOT FAR FROM HERE, 2012 EAST PECAN LANE WHERE LEGACY STARTS. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ONE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING AND I'M ALSO HERE JOINED BY MY NEIGHBORS, NATALIE, GINA AND [INDISCERNIBLE], WHO JUST LIVE ACROSS FROM ME. SO THIS ISSUE WE'RE HAVING IS WE LIVE JUST NEXTO THE COMMERCIAL JOINT PROS SO THIS IS MY HOME RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE NATALIE STORMER HOME, JEAN AND CINDY. AND MY FIRST NEIGHBOR IS RUNNING A CONSTRUCTION YARD. WHEN I WAS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY I WAS TOLD BY AN AGENT THAT THE NOISE AND ISSUES ARE VERY MILD. HOWEVER, THIS LAST SIX MONTHS I TOOK SOME TIME AS A COMPUTER SCIENTIST TO COLLECT THE DATA, TO PRESENT REALLY MY CASE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND BASICALLY WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST A REZONING BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS ARE UNBELIEVABLE. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FROM LAST WEEKEND. I HAVE FIVE CARS. I HAVE THREE TEENAGERS WHO ARE DRIVING, ME AND MY WIFE. WE WASHED ALL THE CARS AND NEXT DAY THE STORM -- BASICALLY THE WIND FROM THE SOUTH PUSHED ALL THE DIRT FROM MY NEIGHBORS TO MY CARS. AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT -- YOU CAN KIND OF IMAGINE, BUT I HAVE A PHOTO OF MY CAR. CLEARLY WASHED. WANTED TO TAKE MY FAMILY FOR A DATE AND BESIDES THE POLLUTION THAT'S ENVIRONMENTAL IT'S ALSO AFFECTING MY NEIGHBORS. NATALIE IS IN A WHEELCHAIR AND HAS VERY LIMITED LUNG CAPACITY. AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BOTHER TO COME DOWN -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> I'M VERY HONORED TO HAVE AMAZING NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE HELPED ME OUT, MOVE IN. THE PRORTY I GOT WAS 1971, WAS NOT IMPROVED. I'VE PUT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO PURCHASE THAT PIECE OF LAND, IT'S 1.4 ACRES OF PROPERTY, BUT IT WAS COMPLETELY ABANDONED. I INVESTED CLOSE TO $200,000 TO IMPROVE THAT PROPERTY. [BUZZER]. AND IT'S BECOMING REALLY UNLIVEABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO -- WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, BOTH ME AND MY NEIGHBORS, 2012 EAST PECAN LANE A POTENTIAL REZONING TO COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE. >> Mayor Muns: WE'LL PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THEERSO TO CONTACT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Mayor Muns: YOU BET. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TERRY POLUSHE. >> EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS TERRY AND I HAVE TO SAY I HESITATED TO COME UP HERE TONIGHT AFTER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS. THE IMPORTANCE AND COMPLEXITY OF THE TOPIC KIND MAKES THIS SEEM INCONSEQUENTIAL, BUT I'M HERE TO SAY THAT IT NOT AND I AM HERE BEING REPRESENTED BY OTHER PLANO RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. I MOVED TO PLANO IN 2016 AND I FOCUSED MOST OF MY ADVOCACY ON THE PUPPIES AND THE RETAIL STORES THAT ARE TRANSPORTED OVER STATE BY COMMERCIAL BEAD BREEDERS. THEY ARE ALSO KNOWN AS PUPPY FARMS. I'M HERE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND ASK THAT WE STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE REGARDING THE SOURCES OF DOGS AND CATS THAT ARE BEING SOLD IN STORES. CURRENTLY PLANO HAS ONE STORE THAT DOES SELL PUPPIES. THE LANGUAGE IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WILL EASILY ALLOW FUTURE STORES TO ALSO OPEN. THE PUBLIC IS UNAWARE OF THE INHUMANE CONSIDERS, DECEPTIVE PRACTICES AND ALSO THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT SURROUNDS THE COMMERCIAL BREEDING OF PETS. THE LUCRATIVE COMMERCIAL BREEDING INDUSTRY PLACES PROFIT OVER BASIC CARE, HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE ANIMALS AND ARE THE LOW COST PROVIDERS TO PUPPIES IN THE RETAIL STORES. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, IN 2021 THERE WAS ALMOST 20,000 PUPPY MILL DOGS THAT WERE TRANSPORTED ACROSS TEXAS STATE LINES TO BE SOLD IN OUR RETAIL PET STORES. ACCORDING TO PLANO'S ONLY RETAIL PET STORE'S WEBSITE, IT STATES NO PUPPY MILL ASSOCIATION. WE WORK ONLY WITH ETHICAL BREEDERS AND WE TOUR ALL OUR FACILITIES, BUT ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS, WE KNOW THAT THEY SOURCE SOME OF THEIR DOGS FROM COMMERCIAL BREEDERS FROM OKLAHOMA AND ALSO MISSOURI. IN FACT, ONE BREEDER USED HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED BY THE USDA SINCE DECEMBER OF 2021 AND AT THAT TIME HAD 96 DOGS ON THEIR PROPERTY. PASSING A HUMANE WOULD NOT LIMIT CONSUMER'S FREEDOM TO PURCHASE THE PUPPY OF THEIR CHOICE, THERE ARE NUMEROUS ALTERNATIVES FOR CONSUMERS INCLUDING LIKE LOCAL SHELTERS, LOCAL RESCUES, BREED-SPECIFIC RESCUES AND RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS. ONES WHO PLACE THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OVER THE PROFITS. SIGN AN AKC BREEDER CODE OF ETHICS SAYING THEY WILL NEVER SELL TO THE PET STORES. OF THE PET STORES THAT SELL PUPPIES ALSO HAVE ALTERNATIVES, WHICH INCLUDES PARTNERING WITH SHELTERS, PARTNERING WITH RESCUES AND HOSTING ADOPTION EVENTS. YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE EVENTS AT PET SMART AND PETCO THAT ALSO DO THE SAME. AS OF TODAY, 16 CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE PASSED HUMANE PET STORE ORDINANCES PROHIBITING THE SALE OF PUPPY MILLS IN RETAIL STORES, INCLUDING CITIES LIKE DALLAS, HOUSTON, N ANTONIO, FORT WORTH, COLONY AND MOST RECENTLY AS OF LAST WEEK, SAN MARCOS AND CORPUS CHRISTI ALSO JOINED THAT LIST. I WOULD ENCOURAGE PLANO TO JOIN THIS GROWING LIST OF COMMUNITIES AND STOP THE UNREGULATED, UNTAXED AND UNSUPERVISED. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> MARY WASSERMAN. >> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THIS BE BASED ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR US TO DISCUSS? >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> AS SOON AS THE STAFF CAN PULL TETHER INFORMATION ABOUT IT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARY WASSERMAN. I'VE LIVED IN PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANIMAL RESCUE AND SHELTER VOLUNTEERING. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN THAT PLANO ALLOWS PET STORES TO OPERATE AND PROFIT BY SELLING DOGS AND PUPPIES THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED FROM COMMERCIAL PUP MILL BREEDERS. WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE PET STORE CURRENTLY OPERATING IN PLANO THAT IS RESELLING AND PROFITING FROM PUPPY MILLS. THESE PET STORES WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY OBTAIN PUPPIES FROM COMMERCIAL BREEDERS THAT ARE LICENSED BY USDA. WELL, THAT SOUNDS GOOD AND REPUTABLE RIGHT? IT ACTUALLY HAS VERY LITTLE MEANING AND HERE'S THE IT'S COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THE INDUSTRY THAT REGULATIONS FOR PUPPY MILLS ARE SUBSTANDARD AND THAT THERE ARE POOR ENFORCEMENT AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR COMMERCIAL BREERS TT SELL PUPPIES TO PET STORES. BEING A LICENSED BREEDER WITH USDA DOES NOT ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF DOGS. USDA LICENSED COMMERCIAL BREEDERS CAN ACTUALLY DO THE FOLLOWING: THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP DOGS IN CAGES THAT ARE ONLY SIX INCHES LARGER THAN THEIR BODIES FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. THAT'S HORRIBLE. THEY CAN KEEP DOGS IN FRIGID OR EXTREME HEAT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. THEY CAN BREED DOGS REPEATEDLY AND ACCESSIBLY UNTIL THEY ARE NO LONGER GOOD TO THE BREEDER AND DISCARD THEM LIKE TRASH AND ALSO NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE BEYOND A WALK THROUGH OF THE FACILITY. PUPPY MILLS ARE NOTORIOUS& FOR DISEASE, GENETIC CONDITIONS AND INADEQUATE ACCESS TO EVEN THE MOST BASIC VET CARE, LEADING TO WIDESPREAD CASES OF MENTION AND MALL NUTRITION IN UNSANITARY ENVIRONMENTS. AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE VE DISTURBIN SPCA COMMERCIALS ON TV SHOWING HORRIFIC CONDITIONS THAT SOME PUPPY MILL DOGS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO LIVE IN. AND IT'S VERY HARD TO WATCH, BUT THOSE ARE NOT ISOLATED INCIDENTS. IT'S A REALITY AND IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY. I'M SURE THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATE AND PROFIT FROM PUPPIES THAT COME FROM INHUMANE AND CRUEL CIRCUMSTANCES. AND THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS HAVE NO CONTROL OR INSIGHT INTO THE BREEDING ENVIRONMENT O THESE DOGS. ALSO -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> ALSO ABANDONED PUPPY MILL DOGS CONTRIBUTE TO OVERCROWDING OF SHELTERS AND TEXAS IS ONE OF THE TOP STATES IN THE NATION FOR KILLING SHELTER DOGS DUE TO SEVERE OVERCROWDING. COMMON SENSE TELLS US THAT WHEN SHELTERS ARE OVER CAPACITY AND HEALTHY DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE BEING KILLED JUST FOR LACK OF SPACE WE NEED TO STOP SHIPPING IN THOUSANDS OF DOGS. [BUZZER]. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE ALREADY DONE AND WHAT MORE CITIES ARE PLANNING TO DO, PASS AN IN ACCORDANCE THAT BANS PET STORES THAT SELL FOR-PROFIT PUPPY MILL DOGS FROM COMMERCIAL BREEDERS. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THE LAST SPEAKER HAD TO LEAVE. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDL DISCUSSI BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRES PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEAST VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.