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Member Rivera present there, member Press for DIA here, student Representative Love Truck on of a crime. >> Thank you, Going face coming to some the pledge. Good. We fix this now. there we go. I don't think it's on it. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands indivisible liberty and justice for all. Mr. Bolland you please read landing Osmond. Yes, Mister Chair. >> A land acknowledgment is a formal statement recognizing the indigenous people of a place. It is a public gesture of appreciation for the past and present indigenous stewardship of the lands that we now occupy. It is an actionable statement that marks a collective movement towards the colonization and equity. The Anchorage Assembly would like to acknowledge that we gather today on the traditional lands of the at the baskin's for thousands of years. That's have been and continue to be the stewards of this land. It is with great fondness and respect that we recognize the contributions. Innovations and contemporary perspectives of the Upper Cook Inlet. think history of Next up on the agenda, we have. Minutes of previous meetings. Tonight. We have to have item for a regular meeting November 18, 2025. >> We have item for be regular meeting December second 2025 like to ask for a motion to approve. So moved second, Mr. Meyers second, I misspoke Monday. discussion at and that's for both items for and for be. And discussion seeing here not like to ask unanimous consensus. Any objection. Adoption of the motion. Seen here. No Objection Islands for and for BR adopted. Next we have the mayors report. Madam Mayor. >> Thank you, Mister Chair and good evening, everyone. Happy New Year. I hope you'll have the opportunity to rest and recharge over the holidays and that even staying warm as we've enjoyed some truly wintry weather. I want to start with a big thank you to our street maintenance team and public works. They have been very busy clearing roads after back-to-back days of record January snowfall. Also, they have been battling blocked culverts and Gracie Ation with the continued very cold temperatures. I really appreciate how organized prepared and professional their response has been. And I want to pass on to them. The many compliments I have received from members of the public. Our snow solutions team in the snow. Levy are working. We are better coordinated and better equipped as a municipality. Then we have been in years and thank you to the assembly for your support as well. Speaking of investments yesterday, I announced my proposal for a one time special education Levy to go in this April ballot. Thank you to Vice chair Braly and members. Rivera involve Monday for co-sponsoring. It's on the for introduction tonight, the 12 Million Dollar Levy will help address the 83 million dollar funding gap facing the Anchorage School district and reduce forecasted class size increases and program cuts historically anchorage, mayors and the assembly have dedicated from local property taxes, the highest amount possible under the state funding formula. I strongly believe public education is one of the best investments we can make for our community, reducing the ASD funding gap by 12 million dollars will make a big difference in the classroom and the success of our students, if approved by voters, property taxpayers would pay an estimated one time cost of $27.40 per 100,000 dollars in assessed property value. So, for example, the owner of a $400,000 home would pay a one-time cost of about $109. And yes, this levee has come together quickly. Members may recall that the school district raise the issue of local contribution at the December joint meeting with the school board during this month between Assembly meetings. My team has been working closely with the district to assess this unusual situation I look forward to working with the assembly in our community to move this proposal forward. And while I am asking the assembly to set aside the sales tax proposal. For this April's ballot, it is a conversation. We must continue with our community because the fiscal cliff isn't going away. We need to work together to find solutions to the underlying fiscal challenge is the municipality faces and how we want to invest in our future. I'm committed to continuing this conversation to make sure we have the resources we need to move our community forward. One last sad note we lost to municipal employees in late December Kyle. Hamish. She served as a police officer at APD since 2005 Reginal Evans who worked on the street maintenance team both passed away last month. I want to thank both of them for their service to our community and expressed condolences to their loved ones. That's all from me, Mr. Chair, thank you all. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Next on the agenda, we have the chair's report. >> Good evening, everybody. And welcome to the first Assembly meeting of the New year as members. I'm sure you're grateful for the four-week interlude that we hadn't had the opportunity to spend some time with friends and family away from much of this. And now we are back. So welcome now. I also want to echo what the mayor had mentioned. I have seen some of the maintenance challenges and in this town and the worst conditions that I continue to see Iran facilities in our town. They're managed by other entity is and it's really challenging that some of those main roads continue to be quite dangerous. In fact, this morning had a friend reach out to me who said that they watched a car flipped over on C street, but that said last week I attended community Council Fairview Community and it was quite remarkable to hear the positive gratitude coming from members of that community which highly pedestrian neighborhood who are grateful for the remark improvement of snow management in the district. And so my thanks. Also to the maintenance and operations team superintendent and everybody who's driving plows and graders and all the equipment out there many dot org slash plow. You can watch our amazingly named Klaus do the work. Thank you again. So next week we celebrate Martin Luther King Junior Day, which holiday on Monday and it's not generally speaking a day that's holiday for a lot of people. It's a day of service. I'd like to point folks who might need legal help to the Martin Luther King Day free legal help clinic, which is. Been held for many of the last years at the Mountain View Community Center, the Alaska Bar Moment K Free Legal Help Day scheduled from noon to 4 Monday January 19th the community center, local attorneys and legal associations offer free legal consultation is for low to moderate income. Alaskans on a first come first serve basis. a lot they don't to consultations. If you have limited financial resources and are struggling with an issue with the landlord, child support place of employment or issue that may have a legal aspect. I strongly encourage you to attend this event and get the support you need to the attorneys in our community who are providing the service. Thank you for providing this value to our community. And if you haven't signed up to help contact the bar association to see how you can be involved also of importance to the municipality and our people. April is the election. And in fact, this Friday, the election season begins in earnest when the filing period opens at the clerk's office or the election Center and will be open. The filing period will be open through April 30th Friday at 05:00PM this year. The election will be April 7th. The last day to vote will be April 7th ballots go out in the middle of March over the next 2 meetings will be reviewing the proposals for what will go on the ballot for Barnes, Levy's potential charter amendments. The final date for action for those items will be our next meeting meeting of January 27th. I encourage you to read over the bond proposal proposals and that energy section of the agenda and email. Here's some of the members are testify at the meeting on January. 27th. Those items will go along with 6 assembly seats that will be on the ballot. As I mentioned before the candidate filing period closes 05:00PM on January 31st. Not 30th. According to my notes, it's last Friday of the month. Also, we want to focus on youth registration as the election nears. I want to make a special pitch to the high school seniors in town. Many seniors will be 18 in time to vote in our upcoming municipal election. I highly encourage you to register and vote even if you're 17 now, as long as you turn 18 on or before Election Day, April, 7th, you can register to vote. Our youth representatives election team are working on a voter drive to get eligible teams registered to vote this spring. So if you know of someone who recently turned 18 or turns 18 before April 7th, please help us get the word out to them. You can learn more about registering to vote and all the other elements of our election. That's coming up at many dot org, slash elections. I'll do the best I can tonight to move us to tonight's agenda as efficiently as possible so that we may conclude the most reasonable hour the evening. It's a business meeting and we're here to do the work. municipality police helped create a climate of respect in the chambers and refrain from personal attacks are speaking out of turn, shouting and clapping and pacing unless, of course, clapping as an item keep sign state and a half inches by 11 or smaller. Please keep clear. Except on lined up to testify. Please don't approach the dice if you have something to share with members, please hand it to the clerk upfront for distribution. If a point of order is called, please stop speaking the chairman role in the point of order in the record is clear. Rules are followed. The chairman interrupt speakers called for compliance complaints through doesn't occur. Then the chairman paused the meeting. And if there's an actual destruction, the chair will give a warning. And if the destruction persists happens again, the person will be asked to leave. With that then. Thank you. Everybody will now move on to our committee and the is our ports start with you, Mr. Myers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman report. Thank you, Mr. Myers, Mr. Mccormick, report. Thank you. Comic Mrt us. Thank you. Chair. The first meeting of the New Year for the Community and Economic Development Committee happened last week. >> And I just want to encourage folks to go look at the website. We a minutes the recordings of the meetings and and we have really good conversations. And I just want to start off by thanking Sherry, but rather the chair of the 2 got electric to get a lack Alaska corporation. The native corporation who came to do a presentation at our committee around development opportunity for Multi acre development. In Midtown on the border of Midtown West Side. I think. But on 36th Avenue and was a wonderful presentation. I encourage members of the community go back and check our website to catch that presentation. But I want to thank everybody for coming to our meeting and also thank the Heritage Land Bank for their 2026 work plan. I know lots of folks are interested in that. We do expect more work, but they did their initial Twenty-twenty 6 plan. And that's also available on the Web site for review. Thank Thank Martinez has day. Thank you. Chair. >> First, I would like to let the public know that if they are experiencing challenges with snow plowing particularly on roads such as the Seward Highway, the Old Seward O'Malley, West Benson in northern Lights, sear a street muldoon Minnesota Diamond bought a face or gamble in Graf and they don't love what's happening to the shocks of their vehicle due to snow accumulation. And the best number to call is the central region. Alaska dot maintenance and operations line. And that number is 907-269-0760, and say that once again, 907-269-0760, as the vice chair of the Transportation committee. I that's important for people to now. The Mats meeting, encourage Metropolitan Area, Transportation Solutions Policy Committee will be this Thursday at 01:00PM on the 8th floor of City Hall. Also available online and related to there is a safer Seward public hearing happening on Wednesday evening right here at the library between 5, 37, 30. So I want to encourage any folks who are interested in any of those transportation related issues show can make their thank you. Thank Spawned Mr. Johnson. >> Yeah, thank you. Chair. The next meeting of the infrastructure Enterprise and Utility Oversight Committee. The Assembly will be on January 15th this Thursday at 11:15AM, at City Hall topics on the agenda include the encourage water and wastewater utility master plan and capital program. We also getting updates on the Don young R-Alaska modernization project, including the new helipad. They change order increase requests from substation contractor for the Electrical substation, potential relocation electrical substation and that change or could be as high as 11 million dollars. So I would encourage my colleagues and any interested members of the public to try and make an effort to attend. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Johnson, this problem. I struggle. >> Thank you. Just one update from the Budget and Finance Committee. The committee last met on Thursday, December 18th last year to close out the year and continue learning about budget topics. Things like over time and salary adjustments. So we will continue to use some of the committee time too. Educate members of the public about our budget in our next meeting will be on Thursday, January 15th. So this Thursday at 10 to 11:00AM in City Hall room one. 55, thank you. >> Thank you. Mister Romney from. Thank you, Mister Chair. I think I will just add on to. Member about Monday's report, the next meeting of the Transportation Committee which meets quarterly will actually take place in February. It's going to be on February 18th. That's a Thursday in conference room. One 55 at City Hall. And and as member Bob Monday mentioned, we do have a name that's policy committee meeting this week. Folks who have. In paying attention either to what's being reported in the media or who are following transportation issues closely. We'll be aware that Commissioner Anderson at DOT unilaterally made the decision to withdraw about 19 million dollars and safety projects from Anchorage. And that is at a time when. A record number of pedestrian deaths and injuries on dot facilities here in Anchorage. So doesn't make a whole lot of sense. My understanding, though, perhaps there are conversations between leaders at the state. And the administration here at the municipality to figure out where we can reach some consensus and try make some of those safety projects happened. I certainly hope that will be the case. But this Mats Policy Committee meeting should be interesting this so that will be taking place on Thursday. The 15th at one 30 on the 8th floor in the mayors Thank you. Mister Chair. Thank you, Mr. source. Nothing to report. Thank you. Thank. You know, that's a Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chair for the A's ons. >> Folks should have gotten the communication around the Alaska Municipal League Winter legislative conference to encourage folks to sign up for that. The last 2 times I've attended. It's really a great opportunity talk with and learn from colleagues around the state to her facing very similar issues that we're facing and regarding state agencies and our needs from the Legislature. So it's always great for the legislature to hear from us all around the state and one time that there are things that need to be done. And also it's a good opportunity for us to squeeze time to get some good legislative visits. And so when encourage folks to register, thank you. Thank you. Mister Rivera Thank you, Mr. Enough to report Commissioner >> Thank you, Mr. Chairs to couple of quick The next meeting of the Public Health and Safety Committee will be on February 4th at 11:00AM and the next housing and Homeless Committee meeting will be on February. 18th at 11:00AM all have a more detailed agenda at our next meeting. Thanks. He's a member of the virus. Thank you, Mister Chair. During these representatives torrid administration held on December 19th 2025. one of our discussions with the officials involved. The question of how we may encourage are used to stay here in Anchorage from the various ideas we brought up. We concluded that adolescents and young adults would benefit with more awareness about what is happening around the city. The first step would be to figure out how to disseminate information to adolescents and young adults living with an Anchorage and engage them most likely through social media platforms such Instagram and TikTok. Then we may promote various cultural events and shows around the city such as monthly first Friday events in downtown at second Saturday, events in Spenard. And what did it motivate them to attend in hopes of boosting the you seeing year in the city? This would create a positive identity and association with encourage. So they may be encouraged to stay here as adults in other benefits to engaging R Us is that they may be more civically active and participating in government right before the New year us to use representatives collaborated together on Instagram post that explain the contact purpose and considerations of each tax cut proposal to be voted on today and allow the used to give their opinions of those proposals and the Google form alongside it, asking whether to use the survey takers approves the ordinance being put on the ballot for the next municipal election, whether they would vote for or against the proposition. If it does end up being advanced to the election since posting on December 29th 2025. the Instagram Post has reached 495 accounts and a total of 2106, 2 views on Instagram with 32 0.8% of the audience being certain points haven't 13 to 17 years of age. And 45.9% more aged 18 to 24 years. However, the goal form itself has received only 3 responses, which still has helped in creating insight about the youths diverse opinions. So while there is more work to be done with engaging the use, there seems to be a few who are indeed willing to actively participates. Thank you. Right next we have the addendum to the agenda. Before we get to the debt and we're going to head and addressed the laid on the table items. >> Which will incorporate into the agenda. So we have to small set of laid on the table items. So we'll start with supplemental item 13. See to information memorandum, a number sales tax proposal and fiscal tie logs. Then we have a summary of economic effects for item 10 G 13 B. it's we have put forward by members spotted a Martinez's aunt. 2 new Herndon Table is will take a motion second and 3rd, of 10 G 13, know 2026 on numbered, which is an ordinance, Anchorage municipal, somebody providing for this mission of the qualified voters in this part of Anchorage, the regular election to be held April 7, 2026, the question of whether to approve a special tax levy for 2026, only dedicated to payment of operational expenses, the Anchorage school district. there a motion live to introduce second. Moved by Brawley seconded by was that Rivera 3rd. And then Vaughn was the 3rd. But Monday was a 3rd. From probably moved. Rivera seconded. Bald and a 3rd. It was definitely stereo. So the clerk advises me that we are not yet in receipt of item 10 G 17. And waits to introduce item to later in the agenda when it can produced and presented. We have an electronically but not here. with that, then I'd like to ask for a motion to incorporate the late on the table items. So Moved by probably my opponent Sir, motion. Currently Timmons and the So is there any objection to the motion to incorporate? I'm Okay. Miss Kercher. That's fine. And is there any discussion? Yeah, Mister Chair, if I could just make a quick says this about process to me. >> This laid on the table item for this tax levy is really frustrating. Honestly. this meeting happened on December 5th with that the school board? There has been and there's been a there's another meeting that could have happened, that this could have been introduced at before and said we're introducing this at the last possible To try to rush it to the April ballot short circuit. The public process. You know, member. Member Johnson talks a lot about. You know, having hesitation about late on the table items and, you know, we need to go through regular process that robust in public. And I'm typically perfectly content to let him sakes. I usually agree with everything you say, but this one just really, really frustrates me because this I cannot really a sign, in my opinion, single charitable reason for why this was done this way. I will be voting. No. I that's on the table. I do encourage my colleagues to join me. >> I'm sorry. The item has already been laid on the table. It only takes 3 members to do that. What we're voting on incorporation of the denim to Jenna. And so that's just to be really precisely clear. It's too late for action. And that and so >> Thanks. Yeah. Just to be clear, this is the last meeting to introduce items for the ballot in April and then the decision needs to be made of what goes to the ballot by our next meeting. January 27th and then ultimately anything that goes to the ballot. The decision is with voters. Thank you. >> And I will just add this does not short circuit the process. This is actually the process still sugarcoating our practices. So least that's my take. Okay. Members may proceed to vote since or someone else. Thank you. Motion is to is incorporate the addendum to the agenda in the late on the table at On a vote of 9 to 3. Addendum to the agenda of the late on the sidelines have been incorporated into the Okay. So I was misinformed. The item was, in fact presented to us. Thank you to the administration for getting here. So I would like to ask for. Motion to introduce. I'm 10 17. read 2026 and numbered. ordinance tanker to some of meetings, the qualified voters in kind of encourage about Proposition Mending Article 16 of the Home rule Charter. Remove outdated language about the former Anchorage telephone utilities or motion, which introduced second move probably second meme on 3rd. There 3 men responded. That takes care of that. All right. So that takes number 9 appearance, Chris, having tonight. So go ahead and move on to the consent agenda, the consent agenda items number through 10 G and are typically routine. A non-controversial items such words. New business information reports in ordinances, resolutions for instruction, the items on the consent agenda may be approved, adopted accepted by the assembly by a single vote on a motion to approve the consent agenda prior to approval items may be pulled by assembly member for discussion separate vote on each items. And are the some of rules of procedure all ordinances and some resolutions will have an opportunity for public hearing at a future date. So go ahead down the Ask members have anything cold. Start with you, Mr. video that just hold on 2nd half. Mrs. Really anything to pull. Thank you, chair. No items. Tonight. He was a No, I'm sure. Thank you, Mr. no items, Mr. Chen source. >> No items. Thank you, Mr. Bond, no Yeah. Just a few items like to pull 10 Delta finds. 10 Delta, 14 15. And then not a 9 to pull. But I would like to request of the chair change the public hearing on number 10, G 16 from March 3rd to March 24th. Thank >> So Director Kirk to change both Karen and 10 G 16 to March 24th 10 to 15 of 10 15 to 2026, 13. Angie, 15 public hearing to March 24th. Thank you, miss. Probably that's a 10 D 5, 14 15. Mr. Johnson. Now Mister Chair, thank you as >> 10, a one 10 S one place. >> All right. 10, a one. And 10 one. The spot and Spartans. 10 D 13. 10 D 13, Mr. No, I don't think think you Notice item 6 aren't going listen out. One 10, a one was Baldwin Day. 10 D 5. Is Miss Brawley 10 D Martinez, 10, D 14 15 minutes. Probably 10 f one spot any other items. Like to go ahead and ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda minus to put items some of second. probably a second by Mister formed. Any discussion. Like to ask unanimous consent a certain direction. Seen here in direction. The consent agenda minus put items has been approved. So if you're here for action any item, except for those items that were just pulled or the later items after the consent agenda. Those items have been approved. So next, we will move on to. Items pulled from the consent agenda. First, we have item 10, a one. Which our. 2026 Dash 9. Which is a resolution. They just pull somebody designated January 9 2026 is Dr Martin Luther King Junior Day of service and recognizing and honoring the legacy and dream of Dr. King. So I'd like to this item was pulled assault and demotion move approve second, move a spot and minus Martinez. there any discussion? Okay? Like to add Mister McCormick as a sponsor to the Thank you. Thanks for catching that. So any further discussion named action? Seen here? No objection. This item has been adopted unanimously. Who is reading his presenting. I'm reading share miss of all days smart. Tennessee of the floor has to make Amanda. A resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly designating January 1920, 26. >> As Dr Martin Luther King Junior Day of service and recognizing and honoring the legacy and dream of Dr King. Whereas on November 2nd, 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed the King holiday bill into law designating the 3rd Monday in January. A federal holiday in observance of civil rights leader Dr Martin Luther King Junior. The legislation was first introduced 4 days after his assassination on April 4th, 1968, but it would take 15 years for the holiday to be approved by the federal government. additional 17 years for it to be recognized in all 50 states. On August. 23rd 1994, the King Holiday and Service Act was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Congressman John Lewis champion recognizing the day as a day on not a day off and whereas Dr King stated that life's most persistent and urgent question is what are you doing for others each year Americans across the country answer that question by coming together on Martin Luther King Day of service to serve their neighbors and communities and whereas the Alaska Black Caucus will be honoring the life and legacy of DR King by holding a community-wide cultural solidarity celebration on Monday, January 19th at the Betty Davis East Anchorage High School, starting at 05:00PM and whereas the hilltop ski area will be holding freedom shred January 17th to the 20th with snowboarder motivational speaker, author and coach Spencer Conley. This event will provide free rentals with a shred pass and free one-hour beginner lessons on Saturday and Sunday and whereas the Martin Luther King Foundation of Alaska who's 2020 16 is mission possible building community and uniting a nation will hold their annual MLK citywide celebration on Sunday January 18 from 03:00PM to 06:00PM at the Betty Davis East Anchorage High School Auditorium and whereas the Alaska Bar Association and its partners are hosting an MLK Day free legal help clinic volunteer attorneys provide brief legal help too low moderate income Alaskans in need of legal advice. Shuttles will run from 12:00PM to 04:00PM between the shelter ET one, 11, 11, 11 East 56th Avenue and brother Francis shelter at 10. 21 East 3rd Avenue now, therefore, the Anchorage Municipal Assembly resolve that January 1920, 26 is designated as Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Day of service past and approved by the Anchorage Assembly. This 13th Day of January 2026. I don't see the mike is on. Maybe try to turn around and see if it's going to work little fun. There you go. That's from a of Florida. >> Ready, thank you. Chair Constand and 2 vice chair in on the U.S. some good numbers and certainly to steamy of who's president. On this evening into each of you will in the building with us on tonight. I I stand especially on the made the first. President of Martin Luther King Junior Foundation of Alaska as well as the end of the nomination of Ministerial Alliance 8 which invests in a and Pastor River in the desert Community. >> Church here of Anchorage. >> I do want to take admitted that won't take much of tab to come in. You guys again, own in honoring Doctor King's life and legacy by way of this resolution. That you put out and didn't want to take them in minute to invite you guys to the events that are listed there. and specifically on Sunday from 3 to 6 at the Davis's. They quit high school where our foundation is hosting an event that that evening in recognition of the U.S. team back to King. And so we invite Monday. Know the share to share their e one of Doctor King's favorite quotes or I should say my favorite quarterback to click teens is. suffering is redemptive and to redeem means to buy back in in the vein. And you do know he was a preacher right? And so in vein, in the in the vein Got rid even man can't do that. Purchase. Price of the blood of son. I live in Lord Jesus Christ. That to redeem is to buy back and back to King paid the ultimate sacrifice for his faith and belief as it relates to laying down his life for the cause is that he believed in and he believed that I do, too. That honor and suffering redemptive. There's a redeeming quality. There's a buyback with one suffers about no fault of their own. But just for the causes that they believe in and the generations ever since had have been receiving opportunities that have been boat back by his honor and suffering. And so we live in that redeeming quality of which he committed himself to. And I would say to each one of those who who present on tonight that we continue in that vein that we bear the mission, the vision, the dream. That he gave himself or and 2 and that we continue to speak to it. We continue to envision it. continue to approach it with passion and I think you would bless all about community and certainly this nation in which we live. So I say to you again, thank you. And God bless you. And and in the vein. And vacuum. one who said it, I hate to even run. You've many I do have to think the estimates. Next up on the agenda, we have item 10 D. >> 5. 25 is AM 5 dash 2026 executive appointment confirmation hearing Robert Dole, director of community, economic development. This item's pulled famous probably motion approve second movement probably sometime ball one day as >> Yeah. Just know. We had a productive work session on Friday. The 9th for folks who want to go back and watch looking forward to working with Mr. Dolan a suit in his new role. Thanks. >> I would offer Mr. Do I hope not only recognizing of a mandate to help get housing built, but you act like it. So with that, then. Members may proceed to vote. On a vote of 12 to 0 in the youth member votes. Yes, yes. And 5 dash 2026 has passed the body will now have the swearing in Mr. can forget your family. >> I solemnly swear or affirm. I solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States Constitution of the state of Alaska, the Constitution of the state of Alaska and the charter of the municipality of Anchorage and the charter of the Municipality of Anchorage and that I will faithfully perform the duties and I will faithfully perform the duties of director of community and economic development, director of community and economic develop to the best of my ability to the best of my ability. Congratulations. have the mic. >> You have the floor. I should say. Mister Dole. That's General Arab custom. >> Members of the Assembly May LaFrance. Thank you for your confidence and support me in this position is a honor and a privilege to serve anchored in this role. And to paraphrase a former governor of hers build baby build. Thank you. >> All right. Next item, 10 D 13 Assembly memorandum 28 dash 2026. sole source purchases from for professional services for engineered design and fabrication, modifications to structural elements and technical building assistance to the municipality Anchorage to port of Alaska. This item was appalled by Mr. Tennis move to approve. It's a move by Mister Martinez. Second probably Martinez. Thank you, chair. Just a couple of questions for the administration or someone can answer them. I just wanted to be clear. This is the sprawling structure. That was originally purchased in the prior administration. >> That we have re appropriate, real pro appropriated essentially for use. Now at the port. But there's additional dollars associated with the ability to use it at the port. And it's pretty the memo was pretty clear, but I just would love to have it out loud on the record, especially considering that there was a lot of noise around the original purchase and potential usage of this from structure. And my concern is also about making sure that we don't get into projects that have those neverending costs that are proprietary to a vendor. So if we could just have a little description, that would be helpful. Thank you. Of through the chair gym. But it has and also should note that our new park director a time is here to for any specificity that I'm unable to provide. >> It's a good question. And so as outlined in the item, these are specific expenses that are part Reid of modifying the structure for its new you switch over my car call as the warm storage structure at the port of Alaska. And so as part of that will need different doors different ways of entering and exiting the building because we will be bringing trucks into the building and and not humans for shelter. And so I would go back reiterate that even with this change an expense, the overall cost that the port is going to be spending to use. This facility is still less than what the port had intended to spend on an alternate, warm storage facilities. So our position is that this is still that of Al you, for the for the port and that they are actually saving money by virtue of using this facility, even with some of these incremental expenses to modify the structure for its new purpose. If there are other questions, happy to answer them and also happy to have the director of the port answer as well. Not that works for me. Thank you. All right. gonna go ahead and just add for my part. >> When the initial proposal was made. Our engineering team stated that the structure was not sound for human habitation, that it needed to be reengineered, even for human habitation and that the administration prior was working really hard to come up with kind of policy driven methodology by which you could be acceptable for human habitation, but it never was. And I'm grateful to the port for taking this on and putting it to good use. there's no one else in the queue. Members proceed to vote. On a vote of 11 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, and 20 8 dash 2026 has passed the body next. We have. Items 10, D 14 15 were going to take them both as The administration's request to the motion to postpone these items to our next meeting. So I am 10 to 14 29 dash 2026 risen recommendation. Adoption of the going on port of Alaska, Port of Alaska Modernization Program Design advisory board, recommendations related to construction paved north extension, helipad cargo handling area and then item 10, D 15. Somebody memorandum 30 dash 2026 recommendation recommendation of Adoption of the Union Port of Alaska, part of Alaska Modernization Program. Design Advisory board recommendations related to the final location of terminal one electrical substation, Mr. Price. >> Move to postpone both of these items to the meeting of January. 27. The motion to postpone probably seconded by Johnson, think Johnson of on so. that's for 10 to 14, 10 to 15 minutes to the meeting of the 27th. right. >> Yeah. And I both of my understanding is they will go to the enterprise infrastructure, Utility Oversight Committee on Thursday. And also just to both of them referred to the old name of the. >> What I believe is now up have enough. The DAV, the does. So it's not the design advisory So they're also be a technical correction to those that will see at the next meeting. Thank you. >> All I'd like to ask unanimous consent. Is there any objection? The motion to postpone those to date certain? I'm seeing hearing no objection will count them both as passed unanimously. Which takes us next to 10 F one kind of one is information memorandum. am one dash 2026. notice a title. 7 waiver for expand the capacity of 1, 1, East 56th Avenue fall today. checks second. Moved to except by the small today saying I formed fall today. >> Yes, thank you. I am. I just had few questions for the administration. would like to answer this. Good evening. Director Ash, thanks for being available couple questions about about this particular particular memorandum. So this is this was just through the 31st of December. Is that correct? >> a on the beach. >> And have we have we continue to 2? We continue to have. >> 200 folks or thereabouts, at least 56 since December 31st. Has there been additional need? >> For that capacity sense? The 31st of December threw the chair. Yes, okay. And we see something similar to this coming to us a future meeting? >> So currently what we have in place is with our new budget. We funding for surge capacity where as in 2025 it was not dedicated. So we. Had to go through this process an order to ensure that we could have place the individuals within the shelter and the timeline we needed. So what we are currently doing right now as we are amending the contract for both locations, add in those that search funding. So so if I'm understanding correctly, the search funding capacity as >> already exists for 2026, correct? And so that it will come front of you because we're adding funds to those contracts. >> Okay. Great so should we should we consider this to be a sort of semi permanent expansion. is there? Is there any estimated timeline for decompressing? Some of the surge capacity? Yes to chair. So right now we're monitoring daily, our capacity not only within our shelter system are shelters that we fund shelters within our community. >> As well as the Anchorage Safety Center as uses overflow. so what we're currently doing is we will look at those look at the weather and then decompress has as soon as we can as easily as we can to sure ensure that we're not displacing anyone. Excellent. And which leads me related question which, you know, are we? >> It has been bitterly cold and very windy are we are returning folks away right now due to a lack of capacity within the shelter system. So currently we have what's called a waiting area, both shelters. And so the increase safety center is the first responder drop-off. >> So individuals who are going there first the encourage safety center has. Really stepped up and worked with the individuals that are being dropped off beans has extended their time frame in which individuals are coming into that location. And and we are moving people also through 3rd Avenue Knapp center during the daytime. And so we're just moving people through the system entirely. And understanding that that in this we are we are trying to build in as much flexibility as possible without really >> boxing ourselves Should we be anticipating maybe a different sheltering format in expectation of potentially more severe winters going forward? I think we can continue to look at our capacity. I think this year's really our biggest demonstration period and working with all the shelters. >> We really have made a concerted effort and 2025 to create That documents which shows all of the shelters, which shows all of our capacities which show the community how we are moving people through the system and like who we are funding. And when we're finding those opportunities. The I think >> I think my my hope is that happen. If we need to start rethinking. Our real needs based on this winter, a sort of a test case I would I would. I really appreciate know, maybe having a more robust conversation about forthcoming Housing homelessness committee meeting, understanding that we we want to have capacity for everyone who needs it. And The fact it's great that we have these additional resources, either community partners that we can tap. But I think that I still hold that concerned. We may be literally beating a few folks out in the cold just because we don't have the space. So something I'd love to discuss at a community committee meeting moving forward. So currently how many total shelter beds? How many congregate shelter beds are we operating right this minute? >> Congregate shelters. We have 200, at least 56 avenue and 150 at Linda's Place. Okay. All right. Thank you. I think that is that is all of my questions. Really appreciate your time. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Johnson. >> And I have quick process question. I don't know if it's best directed Director Asher or remember the administration. But first, I just want to express my appreciation Director ash for the work you are some very challenging circumstances as a late. So I see it and I appreciate it. My question is so I I understand the assembly approved the funding for for the surge capacity. So that seems address the title 7 concern. We mentioned the contracts need to be amended to accommodate. Extra capacity. So here we are in 2026 and I see that we have the funding piece figured out. There's all sort of contract peace. So can someone just kind of clarify, mean, how those 2 kind of work hand in hand with the processes to make sure that we're staying on the the right side. >> Threw the chair. So currently when we fund certified the contracts last year, we fund certified at them for 100. beds at both locations and and we put the option periods. And so we are exercising the second year of that option, which is for all of 26 January, 1st to December 31st. what we did do is we put in a separate line item of funding for surge capacity. And so we have to add those funds into the contract, an order to pay for the search moving forward. So right now we have funds and we're paying for the contracts. Him are paying for the invoices as they come in. But what we're going to need to do is shore up those accounts by putting the money in there. >> And if I may to that, Johnson, just big picture. do want you all to be aware that we are we doomed air working internally at the administration to build the structure. So we don't have to do this on an emergency basis going forward. And so and we're learning this is the first year that we have for the year-round shelter structure in place. We've talked to 2 different operators. We do have longer-term contracts with in place. And you've seen there's multiple layers to. That's right. There's the question or total 16 of capacity. There's a question of contracting under title 7. There's a question of funding availability and whether that is in the base budget or something that is allocated a more of an emergency basis toward the end of the year. So we are should expect to see some things coming from us that are part of what director ashes referencing, including that contract amendment, but also including some other pieces. So we can hopefully build a box that we've all bought into to allow for surge capacity in these extreme weather events. That isn't something that requires emergency actions. So really just sure that we're we're working on it and we will be coming back with a few things to try and build that box in a public way so that we don't do this and emergency basis going forward. Thank you. I myself. Thank you. Mr. Constance. Thank I want kind of share a little story that I had. >> Maybe it's about 10 days ago in our 8 days ago Mr. Vaughan and I received an e-mail communication communication from the president. The downtown Community Council and actually some business owners who were concerned because it was really cold in. There were people in camps in places where they shouldn't be. And my response was fairly cynical that I but be careful not to get too high of an expectation because I think the shelters are all full. listen to me. They went right around me to the administration and the administration said we're going to take care of it and did within minutes. And so for all of the complaints and concerns that it's not working, I continue to have It's at least that are coming to me that it is starting to work. And so for my part, I just want to ensure that that gets in the record that despite my you know, stick take on certain things when it's -5 outside and I thought everything was full, they found a place for people to get off the street. And so my gratitude for this extension. There's no one else. Members may proceed to vote. Motion is to accept. Member Silvers. On a vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, I one dash 2026. Has passed the body, >> Mr. Chaired like to move to change the order of the day to take up after 13. See after the generate second. >> This a motion to change the order of the day to take up a living after 11 seem probably system. 11 after 13 C. Movement probably seconded by Mister Bones. Any discussion? Okay? Members may proceed to vote are like to ask unanimous consent an injection. Abduction. So I will consider the motion to change the order of the day past. I have item 11 after 13. See, we're going to take our release COVID rate. A good appointment from Ation before we go. Sure. >> You know, I I brought my own dinner tonight because body unanimously voted to remove the assembly. Meals from the budget. But when I got here tonight, I see there's a meal available upstairs that was paid for by taxpayer dollars. So my question is, is to determine that that was appropriate, given that this assembly voted to eliminate that expense because from the outside, this looks like someone treating taxpayer dollars like their personal checkbook. Yeah, thanks for the question. So just to be clear, as one of the folks who sponsored the amendment that made that change. >> In the language of the amendment, we were clear that it said in an allocated cut to non labor and so I believe the amount was about 16,000 are so many 19,000 our and there was a similar cut to the executive branch side. The purpose of saying that it was on allocated was because it was a budgeting decision. There was no direction to cut assembly meals. I know there was discussion in a different amendment about that. And so I can see where those 2 things have been conflated because it's been a few weeks since we took that item I read the amendment number on. Hold on. Hold Don't have the flurry Yeah. So just to just to conclude the direction in the budget amendment wasn't unallocated cut to non labor in our branch. >> Mr. reading Amendment number one have 2025, 106, fy 2025. General government operating budget description. Amendment was to reduce the non-waiver Budget items from items such as meals during assembly meetings and work sessions. And that was the topic of that discussion in good faith. We also hear and voted unanimously to cut the budget by yeah, $33,800 for Assembly meeting and workshop. Meals. Here we are reallocating money to make sure we have dinner tonight. I guess I'm just a little bit up all the I will not be partaking. I brought my own dinner will continue do so on the good faith of that vote. Thank you. So I would just point out that the terms such as is actually a term of art. And we did, in fact, make a reduction to >> the meal budget. But we did not eliminate it because we have staff. We are here for long hours and we are, in fact, addressing the concerns with normally cuts to consultants and other expenses. And so the specific terms you put in an amendment actually matter. So we have, in fact implemented the amendment as approved by the members. So with that. Now that the grandstanding has been done, we will take our dinner break point of order. Right. may sue return or >> And already said we are on our regularly scheduled dinner break. So do get the last word. You can just say grandstanding and Cole and not cause adjourned. Capes another. The and order has been called on the sheriff and I will act as the chair and this moment. So what is your point order? >> Markham, a correct. >> Speaking to intentions. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to it is true that there was you could interpret that statement as speaking to motive. And so I will uphold the point of order. And Mr. Constance should not speak folks intentions. And with that, we are on our dinner break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> For those of you who are? >> Potentially here tonight to testify about the special Levy. I just want to make sure it's really clear that the public hearing for the special levy that was laid on the table is not happening until our next regularly scheduled meeting. It was introduced tonight and the hearing will begin at the next meeting. So just for those of you who might be here thinking that we're going to hear public testimony on that item, we are not just wanted to be very clear about that. >> shows >> do ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> all >> right. Welcome back to order. Monday. >> Thank you. Chair. Like to move to reconsider at 10 B one. Please. Second. >> There's a motion to reconsider item 10 be won. Bye, miss Pont Seconded by MS Brawley. This day. >> Yes, thank I should have pulled this earlier. We actually need to set a public hearing for this item. And I neglected to do that the first time around. So would like to correct that mistake. So I urge a yes vote for my colleagues place. >> Is there any objection to the motion to reconsider the public hearing? I'm seeing and hearing no objection to the vote. Unanimous. Item 10 D one is Snell. Before >> Q, I would like to set the public hearing 4 January 27th. So think that you have to move 2. Yes, the motion is to move to set for a public hearing. I move to set the public hearing for that meeting of January 27th second. Motion to set a public us Baldwin Day for January. 27. Second. I was probably. Any discussion. Seeing hearing none. I'd also like to ask unanimous consent or injection to the motion. I'm seeing hearing no objection. So no objection will consider. The motion is passed unanimously. All right. We'll go ahead and move forward into the agenda. We'll take item 11 B. Levin be is 2025 dash one. 39, an ordinance. Of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly, amending incursion, Soco title 7 purchasing procurement contracts, grants and surplus property to address indefinite delivery. Indefinite quantity procurements clarifying some approval is required for certain contract types and amendments, expand the scope of local grants. We haven't us version problem. Move to approve the S. Motion approve the most probably second spot and a miss from. >> Yeah. Thank Just to be clear, this was an item that was continued from the last meeting and it is making mostly small changes to our channel 7, which is our purchasing code clean up after a much larger are off ordinance earlier last year that did that. So what is in this one was the reason we postponed. It was to resolve really balancing the question of when significant appropriations are significant promise of public funds are made. And when assembly approval is required with the practical reality that we also need things to move forward. Departments need to have flexibility in how they do procurements, etc. And so what this does is for non uncovering contracts or things of this indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity when those are required and they have multiple options built into them, meaning they could be exercised over multiple years. This cleans up in titans. The definition of an option when that can or can't be used. It's just a type of amendment. And that also makes it clear that that if the total amount of let's say it's a three-year contract, if the total amount a million dollars, even if individual year amounts are less than the approval threshold, that it still requires approval. So it's really closing what could be misused as a loophole in the future and really just making sure that our procurement code still contemplates assembly approval for major expenditures. >> Deposits thank you to address kind of a little fine point on Some of us for here serving some are paying attention. One previous administration issued a series of $29,000 contracts just right underneath the procurement requirement that even come forward to us for information and then did serially multiple times in the year to get to hundreds of thousands of dollars going to individual. So this project an effort follow an effort to clean up some of the loopholes that were exploited in the term. Some of us have sent here to allow funds to go to friends of the mayor. So this is a clean up act. I a as an amendment. >> Yes, I would like to move amendment once. Second. >> Motion to amend over second by Miss brawling, SARS. >> And so what this amendment does is it changes the 1 million to 500,000. I still think that 1 million us quite a bit of money, handout and multi-year other types of optional add-ons in contracts without simply oversight or approval. You know, kind of one of the concerns that I have with this is that there could be a contractor that's not performing and the assembly has a duty for oversight that they would be unable to carry out in a multi-year contract. You know, up to a million dollars. And like I said, I think that's a lot of money. I think that 500,000 is more appropriate balance between practica ability providing flexibility to the administration and that required fiscal oversight duties of the legislative branch. So I request that you support my amendment. Thank you. >> As Prof. Yeah, thank you. I'll just when we spoke with purchasing purchasing staff and kind of works through this amendment. We did discuss the possibility of doing 500,000. We know for contracts that are for us a certain dollar So not these ID IQ contracts and 500,000. So and so I I personally don't see a objection to that. So I think it's up to the members. Thank you. I would like to hear from the administration. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> At this amendment does represent a bit of a compromise and there is trade-off here between efficiency and oversight here. The way the purchasing code is generally written. And so we're bringing you everything that is over $500,000 or reporting to you the things that are under $500,000 option periods in the municipalities, history have been treated as individual kinds of the base period of the contract is approved or not by the assembly. Depending on that. That is over the approval threshold. And the option period is treated totally differently as basically a fresh arrangement as we first proposed this ordinance City Assembly. Want to clarify that we didn't need to change any of that longstanding arrangement when we were making the title 7 changes last year that I think service a productive dialogue with the assembly said, well, wait a minute, maybe that's not the rule. We actually want to play by. Maybe if you have a $400,000 base contract in a $200,000 option period, another 2000 eventually here into a long-term high dollar relationship with a contractor. And we would like to see that that was in our initial impulse. But after that, I love that makes sense. And that is a sensible hits for the body to land with this amendment. I think we would prefer to stay at the 1 million dollar threshold because my concern is, but if you ratchet down this cumulative effect of all of the options are going to create an incentive potentially not to have option periods in the contract because now each of these, he's treated more or less like a stand-alone procurement I was a I think that the dialogue that transpired there let resulted in no 1 million dollar threshold was an appropriate place to land. A nice balance between those competing interest. But as the base year said, it ultimately is in the assembly's discretion. I think we would like to stand pat on the 1 Million. But that's up to the assembly to decide. >> A source. >> I mean, honestly, I think that if you're creating an incentive. >> 4. An administration to try to figure out how to get around the policy that we pass. I think that actually points to the need for. The oversight that I'm seeking to get with this amendment. Thank you. >> Mr. Constance, thanks. I think though it's important to recognize what. Mr Fawcett was talking about. It's a tension between 2 things fission see getting the work done and the oversight peace and I'm agnostic to the change. I. Was fine with the million. We went back and forth and around and around on. It came to that level and fine. probably with the 500,000 but there is always a tension between those 2 elements. So it's not outside of reason to have this conversation is not a sign of bad faith that that effort is in there. The sponsors actually agreed to that even with a long-term perspective on oversight. So that then on the amendment members may proceed to vote. On a vote of 7 5. The amendment passed. From back to the main motion as amended any further discussion. Mr. Johnson. Yeah, thank you, chair and I tend to support this this ordinance, although I just have to say it is with just a little bit of trepidation. >> understand most of what we're doing here is back clarification cleaning up code and I'm all for that. The one part that gives me a little bit of pause. Although, again, to be clear, it's my intent to support this. >> I think it would. >> It's a paradigm shift where in grants will available not just to nonprofit organizations travel governmental and quasi-governmental entities, but also to for-profit organizations. And I think that. Could potentially have some some ramifications now in the context of the Ace Fund and how that finance and 10 of utilized in a very real need that needs to be addressed. I think it's appropriate and I don't see a better way to achieve that goal today. So that's why I think, you know, for now I feel. Comfortable enough to support this. But I just felt like I had to put something on the record to say that. Opening up the possibilities here for grants to for-profit organizations, use of something that I hope. Myself, other assembly members, future Summly members and future administrations will think very carefully before going down that road. And I hope that is a tool that is used in very limited circumstances. And I think we've been notified one. Which is is pressing enough to allow for this change. But I am mindful the fact that it feels like something that could protect henschel invite abuse somewhere down the road. That's not to speak. The intent of anybody here today, Ron, this body, but just something that I those who come after us will remain vigilant about. Thank All right. Anyone >> On the ordinance as amended. And none members may proceed to vote. On a vote of 12 to 0 in the youth member votes. Yes, 2025 dash one. 39 S as amended has passed the body. That takes us next to item 13, a 0, 2025 dash, one, 19 up. It's a continued public hearing. An ordinance amending in Christmas will kowtow to Section 2 to 3, 5, recognition of community councils to do it so short of community councils and to 40, 0, community council maps in order to carry out the tenure review an adjustment of Community Council district boundaries. Public hearing on this item was. Open 11 for continued to 12 2 and is now before us. Public hearings open and wish to speak on this item. Please come forward. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. microphone is off. Screen Button. ♪ Thank you, Mister Chair. My name's Dustin Darden. I'd like to reserve. You can go ahead with clock around. But just came my knowledge that. 2025 1.19 Was continued from the previous hearing. So I need to go get hands on the. The paperwork in the lobby. Cygnus let my clock run. From what those? They pull together. 2, 0, 2, 5, Dash, 1, 1, 9, Is not located in the lobby for review. With that being said at this time, I'd like to invoke. My First Amendment right. The United States Constitution. The freedom of speech. The freedom of religion. The freedom to redress my government. Of grievances. I'd also like to invoke my 5th Amendment right. Due to the fact that this is. Administrative body. That has discretionary authority. 2 disposed. Armed gunman. At their call. Any questions? asked me. I. Request that they. B. And municipal. In any state or federal court. I would like to pray. And words and peace and salvation to all the knot. No Jesus Christ as Lord and savior so they can live forever in eternity. Anyone else push to be heard on this ordinance. Anyone at all? Seeing hearing none public hearing is now closed. What's that? All the money? Move to approve second probably second by amendments Monday. >> Thank you, chair. I'd like to move by number one, 0nd. Motion And this modern-day seconded by Mister Motion to approve Mis probably and Mr. Motion to amend and this ball and Mr. Don't respond. >> thank you. Chair at is pretty straightforward. Just a request from the Community Council, formerly known as University, which has merged with the tutor Area Community Council and they would like to be identified differently. So it's it's a name change for that community Council to you. Mad dash to area to incorporate the names of both of those councils as they March. Thank you. >> Are you sure we don't want to too mad? None on the amendment. Members proceed to vote. >> Mr. Morris, your computer reckon. >> On a vote of 12 because you're in number of votes. Yes, Amendment. it's and then did. Thank you, Mr. Chairman Constant Boland amendment number 2. Motion to amend Mister Ponce. Thank you. So there's been a lot discussion. >> Among some of my constituents, those live some of those living in south addition, some of those living in North star. About where Valley of the Moon should be placed currently. It's South edition. I the effect of this amendment would be to what this boundary update have Valley of the Moon park instead within the Northstar Community Council boundary. Largely symbolic in discussions with the planning Department community councils that are proximal to parks are always consulted. And so if there were proposed updates or changes to value them and park both South Edition and Northstar would be able to weigh in on those issues. But I think it's folks will see the text of the amendment. Just in the name of fairness in valley. Them and park really is the hub for Gore. Start. For that neighborhood. And they don't have many parks. I think they have like a 4th park. There is no complete park with in the valley of the moon, rather within the Northstar Committee counsel boundary whereas South Edition has several Parks Delaney Park. The hockey rink, the ball fields, Westchester Lagoon. Could park elderberry Park Coffee Bar Coffey Park, so on and so forth. I hope college will support this amendment that would allow Northstar Community Council to claim one park. It's their Thank you. further discussion. none members proceed to vote. And a vote of 12 to 0 number of votes. Yes, yes. The minutes past 6 or less amendment. fund. Thank you, Mr. Chairman of Constant Vote Amendment number 3, second. Motion to men like Mr. Van second by miss from the strong. Thank you, Mister Chair. And I think perhaps you could speak more eloquently than hiring this one. thank you. there's an interesting conversation that happened between the planning Marvel of myself. >> The community councils. Small boat launch is a unique facility in that it is not really owned by anyone, but it is being managed by the port because it doesn't have a true operator. The Muni isn't in the game that users aren't flowing, are able to fund it. And so the port itself has had to take on that responsibility in order to allow fisheries and other entities used a small boat harbor to get out into the water. there's only one community council that has deep and enduring relationships with the staff report, those who to call and a call out a call. I call to get the ports of tension matters germane to its operation. And that's the government Health Community Council. The planning Department had opted to put it into the downtown plan, her counsel because of a 50 to 75 year. Multi decade Billion dollar project to make upgrades too. Ship Creek in which if in fact that ever comes to pass, it would make sense at that 10 year period to have the conversation about having the small boat harbor be within the downtown Community Council. But ultimately the current entity that has the relationships with the port is operating small boat harbor is the government Health Community Council. So it argues town of a small number which the only access to. Entity is through the council boundary. urge your support. Any further discussion on the amendment. none members exceed about. On a vote of 12 to 0 the youth member votes. Yes, yes, the amendment has passed. Inclusion of governments on. That item. Any further discussion. Kris Bryant. >> Thank Yeah, this has been many your project in the making. The packet is this big, by the we've had it for a few meeting. So it is not a new item, but that's why it was not included in all of the paper packets to save a few trees, but just wanted to say thank you again to all the folks participated. I know it's or should say it could be a frank discussion. When you start looking at found reason and who should represent what and so I know there's a lot of thought put into this project over the last few years. And it's just a few years until we pick it up again. But hopefully we can could you need to resolve these issues as they come up and then one other thing I will say to one of my community councils and turn again, I know there was concern about essentially changing the definition of where the coastal boundary is, which is not where folks live, but but, you know, relates to various projects, whether it's airport or or things relating to the mudflats things like that. So I think just to be clear and to say again, you know, community councils can weigh in on things outside of their physical boundaries of are gone. Gave a couple other examples. We know liquor licenses, things like that. So so I would always encourage councils to think of it. Not just, you know, what's in your borders, but to be active and to make comments on things that you feel are valid, including things that are adjacent to reporters. Thank It's >> Thank you, Mr. Sure. I just wanted to invite if there's that. Anyone from the planning Department or as Tom Davis here. I know you've got a lot of work on this. If you want to say anything any takeaways that you want to share with us. Did you want to come up and speak to this in the process and just put a knee? Put a bow on this? I know you've been working on this for about I think 3 or 4 years now. So. Want to give credit where credit is due. Mr. Davis, you just turn it off. I turned it off, OK? Tom Davis buying apartment. >> I just wanted and again and the rest of the boundary Advisory committee. But the committee counsel state at 6 public meetings went through all these issues. work very h*** o* this. Appreciate their That's how we were able to make it to you. thank you. Ok, thank you, Mr. Chairman, thanks, Tom. All right. Then I will also say thank you, Mr. Davis and hopefully in the next co. >> We don't have a pandemic and all the madness. It says that make it take a long time to get this project done. Thank you. Any further discussions none members may proceed to vote. And a vote of 12 to cheer on the huge number of votes. Yes, 2025 dash one 19 as amended has passed the body next will take up item 13 2025, dash one. 23, an ordinance amending the zoning map and approving the rezoning approximately 2.5 acres from C E R density residential alpine district to see ER 7 medium density single-family residential District for Stewart subdivision unit number 2 track to De Pere plot. 76 Dash one 79 public hearing on this item was continued from our meeting on December. The second public hearing is open again. Welcome, please, state your name a part of town. You're from last 3 minutes. >> Hello, my name's Dustin Darden. Seeing and hearing that there was. No opposition. Visible. From the. From the public. I thought that it would be. Appropriate that I make a formal objection. To this ordinance. Number. 2, 0, 2, 5 Dash, 1, 2, 3, That would be amending the zoning map. And improving the rezoning of approximately 2.5 acres. This. Being brought. In a fashion. Without interest from the public. Concerning Toomey has. A member of this. United States. That live In this. Country. Part share. Mr. Myerson. This was a problem for the public multiple times and River so I don't know that we need to go through all this. I would like to. Pulled the point of order. But I think in this point we just have to say is speaking to the item that's before Despite the voracity. So >> I would offer Mr. kind of keep it tight to the matters before us in the public hearings. >> I would know the prior restraint. A point of order of prior restraint. On the most guarded constitutional amendment, which is the First Amendment. But egregious behavior. don't know. Mister Darden. You are veering off into the area outside of the ordinance before us. >> In speech in regards to the matter of the public. I'm speaking. I've been a lot of 3 minutes to speak. Any of interest or garden. This is a limited public for many were allowed to speak on the matter before us, not on any subject. also warned you could one could gather as you. Attempted prior restraint on my speech. I one could also assume that you may be intimidating public from speaking on items. That our interest to them. One could see that. I haven't been able to. Compel a rational thought. Without fear. Armed guards. Agents of the state. By year intimidating tactics. This is creating a pattern. The entirety of my speech. your time has expired, Mr. Garton. I was not that you have been warned admonished too. Keep your testimony to the items being heard before us. Excuse I've been warned for what? To keep your testimony germane to the matter before us. Welcome, sir. Please state your name. What part of town you're from? You'll have 3 minutes. sir. My name is Adam from Eagle River. And property immediately adjacent to the rezoning in question. I'd like to address the at the main point here is that the planning department >> correctly advise the petitioner in the rezoning. And my point would be that they did not. And I'd like to take a moment just to make that point in this case. When the original petitioner went in to rezone for this property, his original question, this is perfect. One of 5 meetings I had with the planning department to rezone this as an R one. The zoning department told him no, you could not zone that our one based on the to get your river comprehensive plan map. They looked at the map and the color coding and the key for that could color coding and said you cannot do what your original request was, which was rezoned as our one. You have to rezone as our 7. But they did not do is look at the media page prior to that. Which tells you specifically relationship to land use regulations and zoning that the land use plan that provides of is a representation for long-term policies. It is not a detailed blueprint for future development nor is it is only map which is established. Specific plants are some of pause your time? Well, her name again. My name is Adam checks. So what's being suggested that you previously testified on this and >> we're not allowed to have you testify a second time. So what I would offer is probably stick around. There might be some folks have questions for you when we get to that. The merits. But we are not allowed to have you testify twice in the same public hearing okay, me ask a question. General regarding that procedure. So I would just ask that wait until the public hearing closed sure. Someone from Eagle River will call you and ask you for clarification. All right. Thank you. Sorry about that. And notice that you are on the list of private previous test for Anyone else who would like to be heard and hasn't yet been heard. You're out of order, Their public hearing is open. Ok? Thank you, sir. Welcome, sir. Please state your name. What part of town you're from? You have 3 minutes. >> Thank you, sir. My name Mark Burnett. I'm a neighbor. Adam shifts in not too far away from where this property is concerning. Property being pointed, Mr, Shakes bringing up. Is that the decision to 2, rezone this property to the CR 7 never went through the Eagle River. Chugiak Eagle River Advisory Board is made to be made by the municipality without even consulting them. And then. Which and also just didn't even consider the comprehensive plan for development and Eagle River neighborhoods. And so this decision, even. Involves one larger lot. Dividing it up, probably into like 3 last overall, which is which is which are very understandable, are looking very much forward to. The petitioner building. 3 beautiful houses in here. We have nothing against that in a unit from homeowners only to be rebuffed. There wasn't a homeowners association there. still feel the same way problem is that decision to put to rezone is different from every other home. All the homes surrounding 65 homes altogether. And homeowners association alone, not including other ones surrounding are all C E R cr ones who know this is Just for some reason. This has been decided to become a CR 7, which inconsistent with the neighborhood is inconsistent with the but the comprehensive plan would be for the development. Why? Why is change being made? And so there's we would like to see this bill. The big through the proper process that you got to River advisory board to make a decision on this for the rezoning of property. Be change to a CR. One, which would be the same to everything else around it. People might ask. Well, what's the difference? We think the 2 of the PRI, the main sticking point this whole thing is that the CR 7 would possibly allow for multi-family dwellings, which is which we don't have anywhere around our neighborhood which as a lot of the homeowners concerned maybe some people are bothered by lot of people are considering their home values in their neighborhood hand. Mr. Shick says work many hours on this him with going up. Also, talk of that are simply a man from Eagle River. And you seem somewhat positive about our concerns and we'd like to see this zoning change back to C 2 C E R One right now. currently ACR, Tim because he used to be an old homestead for a long time ago change to a CEO. Our one instead of the CR 7. basically. What we're trying to do. All right. Anyone else wish to be heard on this item I read yeah, thank you. Anyone else? Senior. centers close. What will move to approve? Second? Moved by Mister Vaughan, who's a second? All right. >> who would like to start? Thank you. So I was able to read through the staff report and I'm convinced that. Does follow the adopted plan. so maybe I would invite some them planning department to speak to that. >> Threw the chair member of Al. And I'd like to hand this over to one of my senior planners who is intent with the details of this case. It's fun. I think you may Lee said. >> That's correct. There's no ambiguity about land use designation and the Eagle River Comprehensive plan. It says it's to you it's per acre in R 7 district is the implementing zoning district for that to drawing its Prager is the code says that we're obligated to follow the comprehensive plan. >> You know? >> There's no other zoning district that meets 20,000 square-foot lot. Half acre, you know, to 2 minutes per acre others in our 7 district. And that's the applicant made that application. And we processed it planning and zoning Commission heard all the arguments and you know, and you can see the resolution your pocket. They recommend approval of this I did say that. Thank you. could you speak to. the testimony implied that the this. >> The properties to which this reason would apply would allow for multifamily development. What type of multifamily development this rezone. Now, if any. Who said that multi-family, that's one of the testifiers. >> Oh, no. >> So there's an approved preliminary plat for 2 lots that 40,000 square feet and one that's just slightly less than 40,000 Square feet. theoretically, you know, if is possible desirable dates. Pretty steep property. the the owner. Could theoretically, we don't know. given that they're septic system. I developed duplex because the our 7 district allows duplexes on lots of 40,000 square feet. That's not multifamily break. So provided. They could squeeze it. >> Into all the other site challenges and dimensional standards to most we're talking about here is the duplex, correct? Okay. Thank you. Well, as the owner occupant of duplex big fan of duplexes myself. I intend to support this. And I think it is also consistent with the Assembly's Housing action plan else. I think it's also consistent with the mayor's plan for 10,000 homes and 10 years. And so this is incremental. And and perhaps one resulting group in greater density, who knows. But I tend to support this open. Colleagues will as well. Thank you, Mister Chair. A boy on cue. Mr. Mr. Myers. Thank you, Mr. Francis. I wonder how many homes would be lovely built on this track. That was CR one a. >> With the approved preliminary plat it with the 3 dwelling units under car when a the ER. When grant. On the whole tractor preach track. So currently it's at one tract of land with improved preliminary plot that would be recorded as 3. Lots. Each loss would be allowed to have one house on CR one a if the zoning was C E R. when see our 7 still, it's 3. It would be they would be allowed up to a maximum. There's no that at the property Hasn't said he build a duplex and there's all these like technical things said about accommodating well and septic can driveways and all the rest. But theoretically, zoning allows up to >> 5, lots are sir. 5 on a drilling units duplexes on the upper to a lot. And then a single-family home because it's slightly less than 40,000 Square feet on the lower lock. So there's a difference in theoretical units that can P a homes that could be built. So what is the difference? I guess, just to land the plane. 2. Yeah. Sorry. I'm so to okay. Thank you. That's all ahead. >> Thank Yeah, I'm just reviewing trying to understand kind of what is the material difference between the surrounding lots and what's proposed. And I see getting to a question, but I'm seeing in in this item. It says that the special imitation that is on the surrounding lots was it looks like it was done in 1990, and it says the minimum lot sizes 19,000 Square feet. So the underlying R one zoning would be 6,000 square feet. So it seems like these are much larger. Lots then what the underlying zoning would allow. And then turned to see our 7, which is what this is being rezoned to post. And it looks like the minimum lot sizes are 20,000 square feet for single family, 40,000 square feet. Almost an acre for to family. So it looks like of of those lots. Only 2 of the 3 would even be allowed to have a potential duplex if the other one is too small. And I also see that the minimum with of the lot in this zoning district would be 120 square feet versus the original R one zoning, which is 50 square feet. So I guess my question Does there appear to be a material difference between? A special imitation that says you have to have him in minimum of half acre lots essentially or and underlying zoning district that says you have to have an half acre minimum lot. >> They're at virtually the same. That. Here's a question that I live, So essentially from my vantage point, it appears to be that the lots that would be created through this rezone, even if they have a different our number with them, they aren't looked to be essentially the same similar type of development. Same lot size and all of them are built on the same geography. As far as I can tell. Thank you. Thanks for As well. Today. Yes, thank you. I just had a procedural question for planning. One of the month to offer testimony this evening suggested that the decision that that this rezoning ever went through and that she you to Go River Advisory board. And I'm wondering it if that is in fact, our codify practice to move re zones through that body. I thank you for the question. Miss Baldwin Day. That is correct. The code requires that the application routed to that You're ever advisory board. >> And the Planning Department failed to do that. We did not send it to that board and that was a mistake. we won't make that mistake again. >> there's reasons for it there said conflict and the COVID. There's one place where it says you only send to that you actually river advisory board when there's one effects. Multiple community councils and this one does not. yeah, it will. We we have we have applications that we've received subsequent to this one and we're at the we're rounding them to that. She river advisory board. >> Could you send me those code sections that are unclear so that we can. Get that squared up. Definitely. Thank you. >> Don't go too far. Mr. Cherry is. Is there a representative from the petitioner here? Thank you, Craig Bennett with us for a group representing the petitioner. It's good to see What is the intention? But it. But it what Martin intending to build. I believe right now, one single family home is the intention. And the reason we have to go our 7 is the comp plan says. Basically there are 7 our one a. Is 8400 square foot lot. And we cannot build, you know, that small there because it's on septic. So we need the larger lots to fit septic anyway. Right? Okay. Thank you know, that's great. You're welcome. Not that that's perfect. You know, I initially had. >> You know, we talked running an amendment changing it, but I understand, you know, where the neighbors are coming from. They're saying like every everything else in the neighborhood. It's zoned the specific way. It's kind of we're just having this little little dot right here, though, under advice of counsel. I don't have a lot of actually at this point to do anything from from spot. But the intention of the petitioner, single-family homes. It's just kind of a weird. The way got zone is that kind of correct? Okay. Thank you. And then I guess a question for Adam. believe one of the things that you know, you and I have talked about was when your concerns is that under under that. Under the designation is received, they could have taller structures and the rest of the neighborhood is that is that kind of one of your main concerns as well this point, correct? It's different standards for different neighbors. >> I recently had a a building, struck structure built that had to go under our one. And I had height limitation on it the first time through the zoning. Process and it was it failed. So I had to go back and spend around $23,000. concrete money. That's replanting money, that structure or money 2 to lower the height of that building based on being on our one lot. That high 20 feet for an are one for secondary structure on our 7. It's 35 feet. And so I would not have had to spend that money on That redesign if I didn't that because there are different and there's that's not the only difference between an R one and R 7. And so we've got different standards for different neighbors. Got it. Ok, thank you. >> And for public comment was friend short. Was there was there anything else from that page that thought germane to conversation when a dad? >> Yes. So what I was trying to go through and I apologize if Carney, many. Protocol there. Was that the map was used in. This was through the discussions with Francis because I had multiple meetings with him and his supervisor. The map was used to make the advice that they had to go within our 7. There are instructions immediately prior to that map on the page. Par that specifically I won't read again for you, but it says in detail, right? This is explicit, not implicit. It explicitly says do not use the map for zoning decisions. Use the land use section, which is a section to the comprehensive plan. To make those zoning decisions. They used specifically and they told me they use the map to make those land zoning decision. When you go into section 2, it breaks out all sorts of reasons and I can go into them. But I don't want if you have that question. I can into it. But I want to take more time than necessary. The nature of the neighborhood matters and you want to match the nature of the neighborhood with the rezoning. I would. I would also add the one of the thing is that in in total. 21 Chapter 10, which is for Eagle River. When it talks about our one, the explicit language is up to 4 structures per acre. Right? It gives you the latitude to do less than 4 structures per acre in that and that very much. Thank you, Madam. really appreciate that. And >> you know, the dialogue and I've had with the neighbors throughout this process. You know, I understand guys are coming from and also appreciate the reasonableness that you've Alex have expressed. Is that we do not want to hold up Mr. Martin, from unable to those homes were just want make sure this process is being Ron in a way that makes sense in a way that, you know, that honors the character of the neighborhood. I do appreciate that tremendously. Like I said, I had an amendment. I was going around, but I think my options are limited on that. So I will be voting in support of zoning change. But I do want you know that I do sincerely appreciate the engagement. You guys sit on this and completely understand you're coming from. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And myself. Next in the queue. >> Mr. Johnson, Francis. you said that the code requires it be routed to that. Should get your river advisory board. What does that mean practically when you do in a normal circumstance to route something to them? right. Thank you for that question. Mr. when an application is submitted to the Planning Department. >> Any type application then we routed to state municipal reviewing agencies and to the affected community councils and a federation community councils. There's other forms notification to email public hearing notices for prior to all public hearings and when it comes up for the assembly, we mailed them again for this particular case. Back July. >> routed the case to the Eagle River Valley Community Council and then we mailed a public hearing notices. >> For that PNC meeting and now for this meeting, the applicant for this rezone. Also held a community community meeting at the Community Council meeting and they mailed invitations to all the affected property or the properties within a 500 foot radius to invited to that meeting, even though it wasn't required for this type rezone signs are posted on the property. We never got a response from the Eagle River Valley Community Council. You have your resolution, the resolution that was prepared by that. She actually river advisory board. They reviewed it and it provided you their resolution. yeah, that kind of leads to the next question. The reality is we have this item before us second of December with the intent to postpone because we had heard that they hadn't been notified essentially. >> They were notified. They received the packets at that point or sometime thereabouts. So Mr. A coffin, not us. And so it. We did provide a month. Plus, I know the holidays and they know they're meeting schedules. They need them tomorrow, but Mr. Welton used too often saying he wasn't wrong. That if a matter is coming, that means enough to the members of your organization and you schedule a special meeting to address that. And so I want to just put it out there that we actually made over, you know, 6 weeks almost available for our any communication to come to us specifically from the She getting over adviser. I'm confident of us taking action. Despite the procedural error because I think we've provided an opportunity to correct it here at this time. Yes. And so I just want to kind of state that that's where Fall on the question. Thank you, Francis. Mr. Chair, Mr. Meyers not to jump in cut off, but I'm fairly certain the advisory board had a meeting specifically about this topic last summer. >> And it doesn't it may be a misunderstanding. But to my does not have to go to the advisory board only affects one community council, subsequent community council's call and request a meeting of the advisory board than it goes through. But just to do a simple reason, it does not have to go. The advisory board. Otherwise they'd be meeting all the time right? And so I got a nation, Mr. Sure this isn't just going a bus erupted me on this long time ago. Okay. So. >> And then to my statement to say that any procedural fault, in my opinion has been corrected, whether it was in the summer when they did have an opportunity to opine or any time until now. And yeah, I didn't have that knowledge. I did hear there was a resolution, but I don't understand the timeline. So in sum the answer to me is the any deficiency has been resolved by virtue of us providing additional time. So that's right where I find myself Ms Bryant. >> Thank you. Yeah, I think that the in our packet it's probably in here and I'm not finding it, but it is helpful if that is documented going forward. my other question is to planning. So they're director Baber. Mister McLaughlin, just to clarify, I think there's some confusion about kind of the purpose and the use of the land use map versus the zoning maps. If you could maybe explain a little more, the language that was referenced by the Testifier. What the what the relationship between land use map is a policy document and zoning map which is a separate policy document. >> So the code says that reasons have to be compatible with the comprehensive plan. And there's no question about the land use plan maps designation of to drone per acre for this property because it's a large area and the scale of the map. You can imagine where I would be difficult to find what land use plan map the color on the map for a particular property if it was small and that. But that's not the case here. There's no ambiguity that this is drone units per acre we're bound to follow that. The plan says that if they're if its, if there's any, if its, if there is ambiguity, then you look to that policies and goals in the plan, things like neighborhood character and cohesion and that but that's just not an issue here. Also, the code requires that clearly within a particular comprehensive plan designation shall follow the standards of that designation. In short, we're required to follow the designation of the map. just no question about it. So that's really say more about it. It's pretty simple. Other things like, you know, Delaney's plan map is not as zoning map get. That's a standard statement that you would put in the plan because it's not designed it's that, you know, aspiring. This is what we want the zoning to be. If that's what you have a land use plan map and the comprehensive plan and then you have the actual zone map and then you have a code. It's a 3 legged stool. >> Yeah, thank you. And I think that's worth taking a little time on because I know as we all dive into our various areas and land use issues, understanding the relationship between the plan and the actual zoning code is is very helpful. Thank you. Anyone else in the queue. don't see anyone seeing and hearing none members may proceed to vote. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 in the number of votes. Yes, 2025 dash, one, 20. 3 passed the body next. We have item 13 C which is 2025 dash one. 33 or to somebody submitting to the qualified voters. The municipality of Anchorage about Proposition amending home rule charter to authorize a 3% sales tax and use tax one percent for property tax leaf. One percent for public safety infrastructure and one percent. For childcare and housing authorizing borrowing from the municipal trust one corpus finance, certain costs. Madam Mayor. >> I move to postpone indefinitely Tax proposal item 13 >> Second motion to postpone indefinitely is made by the mayor seconded by. Most probably. Speak briefly to the matter. >> Thanks for the opportunity to speak to my motion. First, I want to recognize and thank the people who came out tonight to speak to this proposal and to all the people my team and I have met with over the last several months to talk about the budget gap in army, our municipalities facing in the near future. The hard truth is if we do not diverse fire revenues to make up for the very, very significant loss in capital and operating funding from the state. We'll have to cut services, mayors and assembly members have been talking about a sales tax for decades from Mayor Sullivan to former assembly members, Bill Evans and Fred Dyson. Even on this body this year, we have heard proposals in discussion for sales tax ranging from one percent to 9.5% At the state level. Leaders are talking about a statewide sales tax, seasonal or year-round as part of a fiscal plan. What we absolutely know is if we don't do something, residents and the assembly, we'll have to decide which services to cut. We'll be recreation centers, libraries, parks, bus routes, flowers. >> Maybe snow removal, police and fire. At some point what gets cut? How did these cuts hurt our community? How do they hurt our economy hurt our ability to attract new residents, businesses and visitors more work on the sales tax is needed. And this long-term fiscal conversation must continue. I applaud assembly members. Braly involve Monday for also having these frank conversations through their fiscal future meetings. When I met with residents about the sales repeatedly here, one, yes, we need some property tax relief 2. Yes, we believe in our community's future and want to invest in public safety, infrastructure, housing and education and 3. Yes, we want to get more revenues from visitors. We have a real opportunity to build consensus around the municipal services we need and want in our community and how we want to pay for them. Well, I'm asking you to postpone this proposal tonight. I am committed to still moving forward over the coming months. I will work with the assembly and the community to have a robust conversation about how we prioritize and pay for what's needed to make our community a vibrant, prosperous and resilient. As I noted at the start of the meeting, a strong public education system is fundamental to our community success. The education Levy came together quickly. I know not all members were able to attend, but for those who did, you may recall that the school district raise the issue of local contribution at the December joint meeting with the school board during the month between Assembly meetings. My team worked closely with the district to assess this unusual situation. We'll be scheduling a work session and I hope you'll all be able to attend. This is a critical and unique opportunity that I believe we should should focus on for the April election. I asked the members to join me in that focus and support this motion. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. >> So debate. A motion members may proceed to vote. The motion is postponed indefinitely. On a vote of 12 to sir on number of votes. Yes, 2025 dash one. 33 has been postponed indefinitely, which takes us to item 11, and a 2025 Dash, one, 17, ordinance meeting to qualified voters. The municipality Anchorage about proposition amending in Christmas ball. Charter adopted 2 per cent sales tax or 2% tax to fund public infrastructure and capital improvements to support housing, construction, cultural recreational facilities. Find for approval by a majority 50%. Plus one of qualified voters. There's version there, Mr. to postpone indefinitely. Motion to postpone indefinitely. Time probably second strong speak to them from. >> Yeah, I'll be very brief. Thanks everybody for considering this item as one of many revenue proposals before us. I think that this has some merit and I would like to see potentially considered in the future. However, the major flaw in this item is that it does not address our structural fiscal issues. It solves one small problem are a couple small prop I would encourage everybody to continue working on this and if there is interest in the future in pursuing this item, I am happy to do so. But I think given all the circumstances and all the community concern am the reality the costs that are city. I think we need to be very selective about what we put to voters this year. Thank you. >> none members may proceed to vote motion. This post bond. Vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, 2025 dash. One 17 has been postponed indefinitely. Which takes us to new public hearings. That's heavy on 2025 dash one. 36 and on. It's providing 6 mission of the qualified voters. Alaska, Alaska, the question of issuance of not to exceed so 9 million, 467. $1000 of general obligation, bond to of actually pay the cost cap improvements. Think school district public hearings now open and honest on item. Welcome, please state your name, part of town and from you'll have 3 minutes. My name Dustin Darden. >> I'm a citizen of heaven. I was My my life has bought with precious blood of Jesus Christ. And I'm here today. To represent the love that he's shared me. And I also a citizen of attacks. Pain citizen. I pay. You extract property taxes. And this ordinance. Affects me. To a monetary value. Of a portion of 79. Million, 400. And $60,000. So this is a pertinent issue that I privy to speak to. And I'm reminded I'd be remiss if I didn't. Recalled the actions of citizens who've invoke their 5th Amendment right when they come to this very dias. And act of protest, they remain silent. I was not elected as a citizen. I was born in the United States. And the 6 Amendment. Says that no state or province can supersede the United States Constitution. And that is what I scene from. This dies from the arbitrary censorship from citizens who want to petition their government. Mister, my Lord and our DeJesus going to ask you to speak to the specifics of this ordinance. This is a limited public farm. You have been warned. Please you to the content of this ordinance, the arbitrary censorship of what you call relay double. To me. A tax filing citizen. That you extract money from my bank account. Into this very bond. 79 million dollars. And how can this pond deeper took 3 proposed if it doesn't recognize the God who made the heavens in our the God recognize that, you know. That had King David find a giant with the stone hit him once in the head and he was gone. Because he was prepared because he already took on the bear. He took on the line. So everyone here full, he stood up. your time pour a point of order has been raised a spot thank >> wondering, Mister Darden, our chairman during if Mr. Garden could comment on the substance of this bond package. The comments that he's making don't appear to be germane to this particular package of the contents there and >> I generally agree, Mister Darden, please do your best to stick to the item before us. My citizenship isn't alone here in Anchorage, Alaska. But as I stated at the onset of my a citizen. I haven't. That being said, I'd be remiss without lifting up the name Jesus Christ. The name Jesus Christ of originate. As you show up. You may know him as you sure he's the King of Kings. He's the king of glory. And he's the only reason I stand here today with the assurance that will not burn. attorney and a pit of fire away from him. If you don't know Christ, if you're confused, if you're scared, if you're if you're fearful, turn to Jesus Christ right now. He knows everything you did. How make your brand new? Everything else is a lie. We've got a lift up the name Jesus Christ issue fired. Well, anyone else wish to be heard on item. He's come forward. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. My name is Mark Myrie and I am from East Anchorage district. 5. And I will speak on topic. I will tell you. Anchorage school district is a MIS managed. Government organization. And I can tell you this 79 million dollars that they're going to that we're gonna have to vote on. I can tell you right now. They just received board body from the state. Which they do and they're they've been this bad G get for years. Why are we contributing to more of this bad? what we need to do. It's we did the bad. Anchorage school district go down to 75% of the biggest supple budget. There's a lot of fat. There's a lot of pork there. So. What we need to do. They are subdivision. They need to start acting like it. And I basically go from there. That's what we need to start doing with. They are subdivision. It's in the Alaska State Constitution. They are a subdivision. That means. This 2 times. The Anchorage, Anchorage budget needs to stop. Investigate. >> Asd. That's what needs to happen. I recommend. That you vote this down. They need to come up with new ways to do in revenue. Which Property tax of the oncenter enrolled only. If you go to private school, that money should go to the private school. If your home school. That part of the property tax should be ready for it to the person do with the property tax paid. Well, looks like 51 Secs 52nd sup. That's what we need to start doing. With the Anchorage. We need to. To do what's called county. My time is up. >> Anyone else wish to be heard. Please come forward. Welcome, please. State your name or part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> I think Steve Simmons of the pier in this town and I'm a little surprised by sparked by the Bay Area, this ordinance and where did it come back in November. just was not discussion. been to a couple of meetings and their budgets fat. >> Why do we why they need more money? I mean, they're talking about closing schools now. They want another 80 Million. >> 2 for capital improvements on buildings that are talking about clothing. I mean, some some make any sense here. Everybody ill see Thanks are going thank you. Please come forward. If you intend to testify. Welcome, please. State your name upon intended from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> My name's Alexia and I'm 16 and I go to Anchorage High School and as a student as myself. Has encouraged as citizen here, born raised. I'm telling you is D. They make bank more than their own teachers and A's. They get paid less. But she gets their own money in their bank account. And also taking it. What is this going for? Who is it pain? And that's all and I'm gonna stay respectful as a young person and respect my elders, I will say no less. And thank you for letting me talk. >> Welcome, please. State your name intended from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> My name's court Aleutian from South Anchorage. And I'll start off by saying I'm not really good at it off the cuffs. Speaking. I came here because where I was born and Grace Pre stated has survive successfully without a sales tax. I've raised my children here. Pay. Way too much property taxes. >> And then >> they want more money from the sales tax. Most of my tax dollars goes to a and now they want 80 million more dollars. And I would say. Anchorage does not have a revenue problem. I have a degree in economics. I understand money flow. We have a spending problem. And they want to cut. All kinds of stuff out of Anchorage, but they never say. You know me personally. We need to cut back. We need to be responsible. There's not a person here that runs their family finances. By just saying I have to make more money. No, we start cutting back. Maybe we don't come out to dinner soft. It. We cut back. With keeping in mind the good of the people. We're public servants here. We need to be figuring out and ask ourselves how do we serve this community? Not keep asking for more money to give school district 80 million more dollars. When we already have a short sort come that's kind of goofy to me. They already have plenty of money. They didn't need money. When I was kid here, we're paying more and more property taxes. And we're having less and less to show for it. Thank you. >> Thank you. And us wish to be our item. public must now close. What's the Motion to approve by a strong Second Amendment opponent today. A surprise. >> Thanks. Yeah. This would be item that would go to voters of past tonight. More passed for the 27th. It is 4 school building mostly safety improvements. A couple roof replacements. It is not anywhere close to the amount of deferred maintenance that we have in the school district. But it is something that we cannot do all at once. It's also interesting to reflect on the fact that the municipality actually owns the buildings that the school district operates. so I know there are calls from folks too ask for more accountability to ask for their operating budget to be cut and the bottom line is that we are their landlord for the schools. And so the question is, are we going to be responsible landlord and keep up our properties? We're we're going to ask our tenants, which is the school district and kids who are learning there and the teachers and the other folks who are working there. 2, 2, Basically live not live in, but work in substandard buildings. And so we this is just one kind of drop in the bucket of our different maintenance backlog that we have not been keeping up with the amount of maintenance that we do need to do in these buildings, particularly with roofs. We have another snowy winter. We don't want to see roofs collapsing on our kids. And so I think this is a very wise investment to send to voters to ask them to decide in April. Mrs. I just wanted to correct a statement by member rally. A lot of the schools in district who are we may on them, but we lease the land from a >> Or who Just rate given it to us, Mr. Martin, us. Thank you. Chair. So first I wanted just make sure we were clear. This is essentially a vote to allow that the voters of Anchorage to determine whether or not they will accept his bond or not chairs that is that accurate or we are not voting on spending 79 million dollars appropriate. 79 million dollars voting on giving the voters that right to make that choice you know, this sense the question of the voters. Okay. So I just wanted to be clear about that. So that we all know what choice is today and the opportunity to still have another bite at the apple in terms of if you don't support that idea or not. But yeah, I wanted to also just flag. What we've heard now chair is that there are there's a lot of outstanding maintenance, deferred maintenance for buildings. >> That were built. In the past. And I would also argue these are buildings that were built during a time when Anchorage projected growth. The point that never happened. So chair, I just wanted to reiterate that I do believe encourages had a historic spending problem. It's spent with the ambition of being a city would never become. And so we have buildings for example, we had a portfolio of real estate holdings for future buildings that were never built. We're supposed to potentially go based on the prop based on the population growth that was expected. One of those properties. So just what we're all clear chair was one of those properties that the theater off of Muldoon. They were sitting on that property for a long time. We asked the school district to review those properties because you can't be a property. A real estate speculator when you don't even have the capacity to pay for what you currently have. And so these challenges are significant. They are real and we've inherited. A lot of the cost for the dreams and the imaginations of the city would become at the expense of we hold the bill today. So there buildings that we have to pay for their our utilities at that. We need to be really clear about chair. But I also want to just the work to do drill down into the audit into work to get serious and real about where and what the spending his the history of the spending has been is substantial work, but it's not necessarily an every spending item. And sheriff, so this item, I have a problem with the school district getting more money because I would love to see reorganization in some very, very deep ways. But this item is to pay for things that this community thought was important 20 years ago, 15 years ago, the bills of which are today. So I would encourage my colleagues to look at it from a vantage point of get allowing the voters the right to choose, but then wrecked remembering that at some point we have to now get things under control. For the future but essentially shared. This represents bills that are coming to do from the past. And on that note, I encourage my colleagues to send this to the voters. It's meritorious, the center, the voters. And if there's not enough will for it will fail. And I believe in the ability for voters to make good decisions. Thank you, chair. As Monday. >> For for the folks in the room who might not have had an opportunity to actually look at this item in detail someone from the public ask, what is this money even going toward? And I want to put a very fine point on that because I think it's him important to understand that capital improvements mean that we are investing in in buildings, an actual school buildings not in operating costs, but in the things that the municipality actively owns and what is on this list for 2026? is upgrades to Romig middle School, which is one of our oldest middle schools in Anchorage. Updates to Lake Otis Klatt Elementary School, which has structural deficiencies and it needs structural upgrades. Tudor Elementary School is getting a new vestibule, a new roof and hat is having structural issues with trusses addressed. There is access control issues at 15 different schools where there are secure vestibules installed. But now there needs there needs to be access control so that we can keep a bad act. Jurors out of 15 different schools and increase school district. There is update to the student nutrition facility because we are finally moving back to feeding students. Real food. There's also updates Bette Davis, East Anchorage High School, which has an archaic electrical system that is finally going to be on great with to the what she got. Electric. We're doing some demolition and hazardous materials remediation at are some major. That is what this funding there. That's what this bond is going to do. I want to posit that this is not a frivolous expenditure. This is us taking good care of the buildings that the municipality owns. And we haven't had a great track record of doing that over time. So. Again. question that will go to the voters that should go to voters because, yes, it does impact your property taxes to the tune of. I'm reading this properly and someone can feel free to correct me $7.82 per $100,000 of assessed value of your home. So yes, it is a property tax outlay. But I think that given what we've just described as being the intent of this, that's money. Well invested to make sure that buildings are sound when students and teachers walk into them. So again, I urge my colleagues support to move this forward to the April ballot. Mr. Constance, thank you. Want to speak. >> Briefly to a comment that we heard from Amber testified that. Only the people who have kids in the school should pay. I was educated by. The people the city and state where I was born and raised and where I was educated. I will never have children. And the Anchorage school district. And I strongly believe that we have a duty to fund our schools. In all kinds of ways. The fact is that. Deteriorating educational outcomes that are occurring. Are self evident. We see them every day. They make themselves painfully obvious. The lack of critical thinking skills, the ability to do basic arithmetic the ability to change thoughts together over complex processes to understand how things actually work. We are having a failure and we see Across this country right now. I think we have to do everything we can to stem that tide. We have to invest in education. We have to educate our children. Our children are the only place in which we can actually bend the curve on some of these long-term crises that we've been facing, whether its homelessness and Also, there's criminality, whether it is it chronic health care issues, any number of things, education is the key to freedom from those things. And I can tell you here, in and day out, I pray we fund education in this country for we are in a crisis. I don't. that's the cue members proceed to vote. A vote of 22 and the youth more votes. Yes, yes, you know, 2025 dash one. 36 passed by. On to the voters next. item 14 be which 2025, Dash, one, 40 an ordinance submitting to the qualified voters residing in the Eagle Bluff Estates subdivision at the regular municipal election on April 7, 2026 about proposition to create a new streetlight service area. Designated. As the Eagle Bluff States Special Light Service area as our standup on voter approval. men and protests will code Section 27 a 30 700 and automatically consolidate the Eagle Bluffs states policy with arrests. Lsa. Effective retroactive as of January one 2026 public hearing on this item is now open and here. He stated part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. My name is Dustin Darden. All be really brief. >> it's going to take about 3 minutes on this so this is a very important citizen. Haven't. I've been watching the blood of Jesus Christ, also known as shoe of the King of Kings. The King of glory. He defeated death on the 3rd day rose. The ground shook. He set time in history. It's 2026. 2026 years after his birth. Here we are. We're 2025. 1.40 The LED light bulbs. Wow, this is a big one. >> Big, big, big, big. >> Okay. Blue lights or bat blue light. Blue light is bad for you. And it's these are like laser beams, Mr. Chair. Mr. Meyers. Can we get that topic of this? Okay. Because the class has nothing to do directly lights or laser beams. I didn't see that anywhere in this proposal. this is an ordinance about a special late service area. And we'll try to be as generous as we can muster please speak to the matter before us. Yeah, I'm just going to give a little disclosure like a like a sticker on a pack of cigarettes. Imus, Imus have been I'm a citizen of Anchorage. I wasn't elected. I was born. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God in the visible with liberty and justice for all. And I've been a lot the First Amendment right to petition my government for redress of grievances. So I'm just about done with the interruptions. All right. Mr. Garton you are out of order. You have been asking security to please remove now. Security has no authority over me. No, no authority to security guard have over me. I'm a citizen of heaven. >> members. Marker. It's time. So we're back on. I'm 14. Be. 14. Be 2025, dash, one, 40. We're still in the public hearing. Any additional members of the public wish to be heard. Any additional members of Congress appeared on 2025 Dash, one, 40. Seeing hearing none. The public hearing is now close. What's the well, the body move to approve motion to approve by Mister Meyer's second by Miss Baldwin Day. And you wish to speak to Mr. Myers, I do not listen to the Hurricane. Anyone else? none members may proceed to vote. And a vote of 12 to 0 in the member votes. Yes, 2025 dash one 40 is on the way to the voters. Next. We have item 14 CLO. 2025, dash one. 45 in order sanctions somebody amending actress but sections. 14, not 71, 9, 0, 14, not 60 0, 3, 0, to update procedures and fines and penalties for false alarm. Civil violations. The intent continue the public hearing. The public hearing item is now open. probably >> moved to continue the public. A hearing to the meeting of January 27th. >> Second motion continuous, probably second, Mr. Myers, any discussion on the motion? >> I'll just note There's one piece related to the fire department that is being worked out by the And I would also add that AP is first light change can updated and bring part of it into 2026 as opposed to 2020. >> So, yeah, you'll see. And as for Jean comeback, before us and should be introduced on the regular agenda. So any I'd like to ask unanimous consent an injection to that motion to postpone to the 27th. Here and seeing no objection item is postponed next. We have I'm 14, 2025 dash one. 41 ordinance amending the official streets and highways component comprehensive plan to update functional classifications for a number of streets and roads throughout the municipality public hearing. This item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard on the side. Anyone at all. Welcome placing them apart attendant from one of 3 minutes. Good evening. My name is what Walker Lindh. It's been our I support this. I think that most of our roads, our overbuilt to the actual traffic that we see. >> And this is kind of it and overdue time too. Update many of our road functional classifications, too. The market is or with actual seen here and there discussions about our fiscal situation. And I think trying to have our own infrastructure corresponding to actual needs and could be part of that rather than having over extra asphalt to do I also think so. I love card and a cautionary tale is of how functional classification is so important is spring are rude and how that's been. As can see in the kind of notes related to this ordinance that, you know, we've been a long-running projects, I think first an issue in 2019 here we are 7 years later. Looks like we will break ground for from initial 0.9 years. It's designed that. Excite some members of the community. You know who don't think that we need those extra lanes, the turn lane but members of Spenard than wanting kind of, you know, better sidewalks, better safety were one of the areas in seen off of counties, especially on Minnesota. All right. Next to spin art and so we've seen how this impacts that's been our Byrd projects and we hope that it doesn't impact later road projects. And this is opportunity to kind of try to preempt some of that with for week. Coming up, other projects coming up. I'm trying right size the functional classifications actual needs of the community. So again, I urge your support. Thank you very much. You know, I just wish to be heard on this. Welcome, please state your name. A part-time from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> hello. My name is Lindsay Hajduk. I also live in spin it and want to speak to this. This issue like Will said, it's really important that we discuss the functional classification of roadways because as a bicycle and pedestrian advocate working for years in our community to try to make our cities more connected, livable and safe. A big hit challenge. We often find when redesigning projects is that while the functional classification is for greater vehicle use and so we can't have this wide enough sidewalk or we can't have an actual bicycle lane. So the opportunity to revisit this has some real life consequences, even though it sounds really complicated and challenging and then tied to this. These classifications also then are linked to the design criteria manual. I noticed the memo that was provided says that there's going to be a comprehensive review of all the official streets and highways plan classifications. And I would like to know more information about that and how it relates to the design criteria. Manual update. That will also be revisiting how we say that a certain classifications should have X, Y or Z as far as asphalt for vehicles but bus lanes, sidewalks, bicycle lanes, all of that because we are behind the times the official streets and highways plan is very outdated. Same with the dcm. So we're designing our roadways and we we are experiencing the result of our roadways as we have different values as a community as the vehicles are bigger and heavier. And as we experience more fatalities, severe injuries and deaths that we could avoid. If we are designing our roads in a better way, Spenard road is included in this with a functional classification change for some of the roadway, but not all of the roadway. And I've been trying really hard to work with the municipality, the Department of Transportation and the Assembly to understand why that that is that change is there. And I still don't have a really clear understanding of that. But I don't want to see other roads that could benefit from classification changes delayed because of where they are in their design phase. So I know it's really important, but I want some transparency and some accountability as we move forward and a better understanding of avoiding the challenges we have in the redesigned for Spenard Road for these other projects. >> Thank you. arsonist wish to be heard. public hearing is now closed. What's the will of the body move to approve? But to prove mask properly. Seconded by MS Summers. problem. >> Yeah, all echo the words unless testify or I know there is certainly more work to be done. I'm out. I'm not the best one to speak to the details on the design criteria, manual or a larger scale update of this. But but I know we are also eager to not create any further delays on on So I would urge support. As part Thank you. Have a handful of questions. >> And I'm not sure from I mean, would like to answer But mostly pertaining to future functional classification. Updates. What's going on at the state that the CM update, etc. >> Threw the chair to member Valdes Graeme Downie, deputy chief of staff. I'm happy to try to take for shot at answering, but we also have when a from PM any and release about from the planning department available to answer as well. Excellent. Thank you. >> I my first question is what is the timeline for future functional classification? Updates alluded to here, but not not entirely clear. I'm curious how so this is kind of a multipart question. How well those interact with the state updating its functional classifications. And will we be seeking some kind of alignment? Not so much like what it what is that? What that picture looks like. Threw the chair to member Paul Monday. That's very good and complex question that I don't think I'd be able to answer the entirety of today. >> we will be doing CHP update starting very soon. We have the number working on now actual scope of the project, it will go beyond what you see here, which is just a list of reclassifications and will visit. Revisit the entirety of the plan. So we'll be looking at all of the roads. All of the classifications and how that relates to the dcm. And how that does relate to the DOT classifications, which are an entirely separate that uses difference terminology that I would actually lean more on traffic or PMA need to talk about. But we do want to make sure that this time around that we are much more aligned with dot with him and he practices with the dcm and just make sure it works for the entire community from this point for it. So that actually is a lovely lead into my second question, which was how, you know, how does this process relate to the update? >> And what is the timeline for that for particularly the TCM streets chapter to start in 2 into revisions. >> So I just want mention the oshp in relation to the DC then all all ask Melinda to take over with the details about the actual TCM bit. We going to be working hand in hand with money during their update process to make sure that our shp classifications make sense in relation to the design that they will be outlining in update. And I'll leave it to going answer the rest. >> Melinda thank you for the question to the chair. Ms Baldwin Day. Our chapter one with the streets. Dcm is beginning this year. In fact, we're already to starting to get under way. We are engaging with our different departments. >> know, having discussions with subject matter, experts. >> And we'll have a lot of public engagement as well. So I believe our target is to have it finalized for, you know, probably next year to have it all pulled together and adopted. one point I would to that is that we will be giving you all in the very near term to think about the goals and objectives of the revision. >> And that will come to you for approval. Exit >> should we expect then that we have projects that potentially? Where potentially revision has some significant for example, fire Elaine, should we anticipate that those projects will potentially be placed on on hold until the December vision is actually completely can use an updated and updated and design criteria manual before we actually get 65 for 95% design. >> Melinda, conventionally elaborate more on this. But no, I do not think we would want to put those projects on hold. I think we want to do is move forward with those projects with the lessons learned on roads like spin art, with an understanding that the community values are on economic development on having these factors mean streets and the safety. And then to the degree necessary pursing variances from the current DC on to achieve those goals. >> And I think the I'm curious about just the sort of the delay and timeline it's alluded to here in document, but not really fleshed out. So the delay between PCs, recommendation of approval last May and then that bringing it to the body now. And I'm curious if there if they were things that needed to be sorted out in the intervening time and why we didn't see this for a period of several several months. Yeah, I think in short that we did not fully understand the implications that changes to the section of spin are between Benson and Minnesota would have on the project. >> Until after PCC had approved the change. And so it took us a couple months to fully understand what those impacts where understand work with you all to understand what we wanted to move forward with. And also figure out with staff but the most appropriate solution, worse as well as some community consultation. >> When I'm winded right of way, acquisition actually began on Spenard Road. I believe it's under way now. When did it start? Threw the chair. We. >> Lets see the right away phase is officially opened as far as a Mets and the that process is concerned. Dot is still negotiating with the consultant to confirm the scope and get their contract amended so that they begin the work. That's helpful. Thank you. I don't have any further questions. do have some comments chair to 20 to yield the floor. Get make you are. There's no one else in the queue exit. So I think for my other for my colleagues on the Dias, you might be wondering why why this matters. Why should we care about functional classification? I think it's it's it's because the functional the functional classification of a roadway. Eventually dictates the details of how a roadway can and cannot be built. So you could think of it as sort of like a precursor the way think about zoning dictating what can and can't be built in terms a building or structure functional classification of a Rhodes has. This is how many cars travel on the road. This is how the the road is used. And then that changes what that road can look like as we do these rehabilitation projects so to to put a bit of a finer point on on why this is a little bit of a sticky wicket. The first phase of the Spenard Road update was was content was completed in 2018 and that was when the conversation started in the spin our neighborhood about what the next phase of this Bernard Road rehabilitation project would look like. And there was this expressed a desire for spin are to be more of a main street where you had they stree and amenities and non-motorized transportation users and potentially 2 lanes as opposed to what currently exists and the community was told that in order to do that, they would need to downgrade the functional classification of spin art. So that was a working understanding that the community had. And in that time frame that's been our corridor plan was written and we've heard a lot of conversation on this diet about neighborhood plans and how they are or are not implemented. And so as a part of that corridor plan which was adopted in 2020, it's one of our newest plans. There is a recommendation that the functional classification of spin art be downgraded so that the second phase of rehabilitation could move forward at the same time, there are business owners who are expressing concerns about right of way takes there there are conversations happening in a lot of integration. A lot of communication between us but our community council stakeholders and the municipality and then fast forward, there was a three-lane design that was put forward. 3 lane design did require some additional right of way takes it. It didn't require some places where we have made commitments as a municipality that we would not take right of way. We have had to walk back. And so we're in. Meanwhile. The amended age P which is before us tonight, which adjusted the functional classification of spin art down to a neighborhood collector resident, a minor arterial, which is to be clear and accurate representation of the way that this road is utilized was was moves forward in March, the Alaska DOT said that they had no comments and no objections to this change. Pcc recommended approval in May. And then stakeholders, we're told in the community Council is told that the right of way takes that would be required actually needed. Spin artist. Stay at the functional classification. It's already at in order to avoid some legal challenges. And there are also told that a 2 lane option was actually out of the question. 5 years later, 5 years after the adoption of their neighborhood plan. The community was told that at the Tulane option was not possible because of issues with snow removal because of income grew its with the dcm. But we've heard a lot of conversation about tonight. And so here we are right with these federal requirements that we're holding on one hand city design policy that we're holding on another hand and this community plan and none of them, none of them are actually can ruin. None of them fit together. And so in a situation where we've written this community plan. That we now cannot implement or maybe will not implement because we have we have no tools to actually put the public will into practice. And at in a functional way. I point this out because I think we need to understand that when we don't have the right tools in our tool box with the dcm much like zoning, we cannot implement what the community has said that they want and the way that they want to see their backyard be built out. And I'm concerned about that at I think that I think that really undermines public trust. means that we're not doing a good job of managing community expectations when they write these plans. I think it discourages people from participating in the proper public process when it feels like we're going to write, these plans were going to do this work. We're going to engage in good faith and ultimately engineering is going to Trump and design manuals are going to Trump. What we would like to see happen in our city. And it begs the question, like, are we writing plans that we can implement or are we not? And plans are expensive. So I think we need to have a reckoning a little bit of a reckoning. I just felt like the right vehicle to make the suggestion we need to reckon with whether or not we are going to write plans and then ignore them. Or are we going to write plans and then figure out how to implement them and like peel back some of the bureaucratic layers that prevent us from doing so at this. I think this is why people are losing faith in government because they don't see that we can take the will of the people and enact it in. Visible way. And so I put that before you as as a challenge. And I hope that I will support this change even though it has meant the community has been a little around a little bit. I am going to support this change, but I think we need to be really careful about how we are engaging with the tools that we have with the public, how we are writing in implementing our plans. And need to be honest. Otherwise, I think we really risk alienating folks who have been extremely engaged for years about how they want their neighborhood in their streets to look. I think that's all I have. Thank you, chair. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Cherry, I think I want to ask Mr. Downey in question along the same. >> Lines. We received an email from sort of providing justification for keeping. Segments of spin our. Road at a higher classification. So as not to delay progress on that project. But knowing. Yeah, I guess being familiar with that's been our corridor and what the community has and wanting it to be like really. Bike from the corridor. You know, asking for that right? >> How? >> So the suggestions that you laid out, which would be 2 key part of it as a minor arterial and then wait for updates to the dcm. I mean, how are we going to achieve? Well, number Baldwin Day, he's talking about, which is the vision of the community, are we or are we just taking off the table? For good any I any real idea of Tulane design? >> Yeah, well, I think to your first question and I think to member Monday's point, what can we do immediately to achieve the community goals? One of you know, for full transparency. I was an angry citizen testifying on the grid project in 2000. So 2020. So I absolutely totally sympathetic completely get it. And but at the end to say we did, we heard the community this year. We heard their concerns about the road. One of the things about both minor arterials and community collectors. So they have a design speed of 45 miles an hour. So changing the classification of the road to a collector wouldn't actually have achieved the community's goal of reducing the speed on the roads, which is extremely frustrating. And we talked about this with staff and that's something we're going take a really hard look at when the update comes around because collectors probably shouldn't be 45 on our roads in Anchorage. So I mean, that's at least one positive lesson we're taking away from it. But we were also able to take immediate action to address the community's concerns by changing the speed limit on the road to 25 miles an in August of 2025. So that's a longstanding community desire for that road. They wanted the speed limit to come down. Traffic engineer was able to do a speed study, determined that portions of that road, especially with the curvature already perfectly appropriate for us to be. 25 miles an hour, the remainder of the road will be 25 miles an hour. But the project is complete. So that's something immediate we can do to meet the community's desire for safety and economic activity. Yeah, there's a two-part question there. So happy to answer the other half. >> Well, I think I'm headed more. I mean greatly. So the speeds we should probably do that. Another road says, well, good to hear that reclassification. >> It's potentially not something that would stop us in some cases from doing that >> I am more. >> I guess focused on the right of way and what's needed. And I know that, you know, the dcm information about, for instance, how white Alaina needs to be. On a certain drug classification that may impact whether or not you have enough right of way for bike lane. And so think really part 2 is if if we keep this as a minor arterial. Does that. It and wait for changes. Other documents does that preclude the Tulane option? >> Yeah, OK? So if I can also answer the other question, you asked. So the short answer doesn't preclude the Tulane, I think we could absolutely tell dot it's our road. So we could say you could decide we want in our to be a two-lane road and we could say, dot, start over, redo the design process. Design a two-lane road. That's what's appropriate for spin art. But that is what's going to cause a 3 to five-year delay in the project. So that would send them back to the drawing board in terms of the design process. They've already completed the design process for the three-lane section. So if we as a community decided we wanted to go back to a 2 lane road. We could absolutely do that. But it would add 3 to 5 years to the project. So that's frustrating for me to hear. I'm sure it's frustrating for here as well. It's frustrating that we got to this point. hopeful we can avoid it on the other sections of spin art and as well as that on and Fireweed. Joe, the question there's sort of another paradoxical thing in the TCM that I learned this week is that collectors have 8 foot bicycle paths sorry. Arterials can have 8 foot bicycle past. The collectors can only have 5 foot bicycle paths. So one of the reasons that we're acquiring right of way on spin art is to make room for that 8 foot multi-use path. If we downgraded to a collector than we can only a 5 foot paths and then they wouldn't be able to justify potentially taken right away to make space for additional bike path. So that's it's been hard like sort figure out that's just like a problem with the and how it's currently written. Is that the standards for non motorized facilities are actually stronger in the arterial designation as opposed to the collector designation. And so sorry, but I had to get into that level of detail with Yeah. So. >> Certainly looking forward to some of those dcm changes coming. Hopefully sooner than later. >> also in your email. You described that was sort of a a group that you were able to convene. >> sounds like a number of all was also in attendance. >> About a dozen or so community members. >> Advocates adjacent businesses. And I guess where that leaves me a little bit. Torre is. You know, how reflective of that. The of the of the sort of wider demographic of that neighborhood is that group of a dozen people. And how does that compare to the folks who I guess the number of folks who have participation in creating the original plan that number Baldwin Day was speaking to earlier because as a policymaker, I don't know if I want to. If I feel comfortable moving forward on recommendation of a small group like that. It sounds like they don't want to see a delay that they would rather forgo that the tooling design rather than delay the project. I understand or they may be coming from because a lot of these projects continually are pushed back and pushed back. And we know we're waiting for Fireweed. We're waiting for work on to the rating for all of this long-desired projects but I don't know how comfortable I feel. small group like that sort of overriding and adopt a plan that may have had greater participation. So I mean that we do have a I guess thoughts on that? I made some are the statement. But >> yeah, it's absolutely fair to say that was not like a massive public meeting with broad notice. That was small group of stakeholders. It was generally selected from people have been complaining. So people who are worried about this, but our project too. We're worried that the Chilean design had been so anything. I think we over selected for people who are more excited about and engaged in a 2 in design. But I guess maybe outside clarified that what you're doing here today is in action with respect to that section of spin art. So you if you approved this ordinance, you would not be changing the designation for that section of correct? Right. I think question that some of us policymakers are asking is what do we need to change? >> To make this fun. Our vision happened. And so that's something I'm wrestling with how to turn back to you. Mister Chair. >> What might say on the good news is there is a section road in this change that you will be changing to the collector standard so flee. The next project is designed around those standards. So I don't have anyone else. The queue. I will offer that. My experience with all of this, really cynical. state says one thing right now says another thing tomorrow and says the 3rd thing the next day and our teams run circles trying to keep up with the shifts. And it's super frustrating. End. It seems like nothing that this town ever really aims for in making improvements in the transportation sphere actually land. It just feels like it's one filibuster after another until it's changed until it hits the deadline until it hits. if you do this and that's going to happen and it's the end of the world until you know, you've got the train cars out of line. You put your train before our eyes are going to pay for 10 years. It's we needed your safety money somewhere else. And even though our roads are killing people in your neighborhoods, we're going to put it somewhere else. And that's very, very, very sad to me that we have not had. More of a good faith and fair dealing relationship with the folks at the state. Just a lament that I will carry with me that promises made are never delivered. But the levy of the cost and burden always seems land. Keep up the good fight. none members may proceed. vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, as 2025 dash one. 41 past the body next 7.14 E 2025 dash one. 42, we're going to see encourages possibly approving creation. Streetlight service area requested by the property owner with proposed area which see include certain real property. As Jason told Glenn Highland Park, Place Street to be designated as the So as a and 2 up on some of the approval, according Liam Ende, encourage Good Section 27, a 30 knot 7, 0, 0, and automatically consolidate. Wooten SLA say within the new River Slc effective as of January one, 2026 public hearings item is now open. in the Senate. public hearing is now closed. What's the will of the approval by Mister Myers. Second, I was crawling destroyers. That's yeah. I think just very briefly, I want to know that there was an earlier items that we also voted on after after much delay which is sending it to voters. You will notice that this looks similar. It also refers to an S L S a but it is up assembly approval. And the reason is because which I learned by reading this on that there are no qualified voters living in that area because they're only current commercial properties. So just to know that is the distinction that typically would send this to voters if they are the ones to be attacks to their residents. But businesses are not people. And so therefore, Supreme Court notwithstanding, they don't vote in our local elections. And so that's why this is assembly approval. Thank you. none members may proceed to vote. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, 2025 dash one. 42 has passed the body brings to 14 F a O 2025 dash one. 43 in organs think somebody amending encourages spoke code section. 21 and section 21. 0, 9, 0, to designate the Girdwood Board of Supervisors as an advisory commission on land use matters affecting girdwood, awaiting planning and zoning. Public hearing. This item now open. heard. Welcome. Are you speaking on your behalf or health chief us about quick, OK, please take them apart of 10 from about 3 dozen. My name is Mike Edgington. I'm co-chair of Good Will to fight I just want to trust will say. >> I'm in favor of this. Probably no surprise I'm available. If you have any questions. But a little one thing which I think perhaps cause some confusion in the broader communities that language it says, waving planning and Zoning Commission review. I think I've seen some misunderstanding saying that. Good board of supervisors would sort of not have to go through planning and zoning to change land use. And that is obviously not the case. This is just that this particular change wouldn't have to go planning and zoning. Again. This we've had a long-term problem of Land use change check to 9 to the good parts of title. 21 is needed to the community wants to push affords the actual mechanism of doing that has been quite complex and quite confusing. Some time to have achieved by going to the planning department sometimes to the chief to by having individual members of the assembly sponsor things. What we would like to be able to do is initiate things directly in the same way. It's a syrup which and she rid have to cope changes to that. Anyone else wish to be heard on this item. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Madam Clerk. Let's turn call. Number the public on the list. Assault in the sanctions assembly were taking testimony on 2025 dash one. 43, which is doesn't Board of Supervisors Advisory Commission. You signed up for testimony. Please state your name. A part of 10 from have 3 minutes. >> Thank you. Good evening, family members. I am Brianna Sullivan speaking on behalf of myself and I'm a member of cheap U.S. Thank you to the administration for support on this amendment to AMC Section. 21 year to and section. 21 share 9, 0, 3, 0, to designate the chief us as an advisory commission on land use matters, affecting Kirkwood and waving planning and Zoning Commission review. I will reiterate points on in and a resolution from last September. Our elected or desires input into the planning and zoning decisions affecting her. Do it. >> We are in tune with our community needs and requests ordinance enables this board to review and make recommendations that we ideally have an understanding and more direct knowledge of action addressed in section. 21, you. >> To New York to >> As mentioned in communities she decking river, have representation from he Rob and that this ordinance provides proposes to near that language. Designated that you get. People hurt by record as advisory board on land use matters. states the matters cheap us would be able to provide review Some of them are changes to the girdwood comprehensive plan their comprehensive plans to studies which impact hardwood. Actions involving the planning board. Commission don't Board of Examiners and Appeals and the Urban Design Commission that require public notice to committee in Girdwood. Plus Co changes public facility site selection overlay district and the large retail establishment in Girdwood. Finally applications or proposals for development in Girdwood should be heard and decided by land. Each board shall first be transmitted to us and the hearing by the board or commission no sooner than 30 days after transmittal. As a board member. I appreciate the statement that failure us to meet and provide recommendations prior to such hearing shall not preclude the board or commission from proceeding with the hearing and decision. It is a helpful notice and limitation in the event GB U.S. either did not wish to weigh in or timely applications. Meetings and decisions are unable to formally occur in a productive manner for the score to submit input to the municipal Department or agency. And GB U.S. to find that role in the community. We are ultimately responsible for overseeing the services provided by the current Value Teresa area and approving its budget. The last several revolution coming out of and the recently adopted curb comprehensive plan. Identify potential changes to support housing and economic development. They require updates to hardwood land, use code and text amendment to the code can be initiated by the name departments or agencies in including here at simply perform a very similar role and are subject to the same procedural and ethical obligations as It's time to acknowledge which the administration designee give us the title. 21 review body in exhibit A we are greatly appreciative to the administration for this action. >> All right. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard on the side. public hearing close with some of the body move to approve second moved by Mister Johnson, seconded by Mister Cornick, Mr. Johnson, I think Mr. Edgington a missile uncovered a pretty well. I don't have anything right now unless their questions. >> Thank you, Mister Chair. So I will likely not be supporting Mostly because I I think it's unnecessary. We receive advice from GE boss. On land. Use matters. In fact, there's a resolution attached to the memo. On this ordinance from You know, right now we have been having some serious conversations about. How many of these advisory commissions should we have? How will they be staff to be our considering Sunsetting the Urban Design Commission, for instance. I also feel like you know, we have the planning and zoning Commission and those folks are equipped. To make recommendations throughout Anchorage and they can do that work. And so I see this as a maybe a little bit to play could their role. In terms of the argument fairness or parity with Chugiak Eagle River. You know, are we going to have an arts, sir? Commission and are we gonna as should every community council encourage bowl? Should they be a an advisory? Commission? He they already function in an advisory capacity G pass already has the ability to correspond with us and weigh in on various recommendations. Land use or otherwise. And so. Yeah, I just feel like this Adding layers of processees that our I don't envision being helpful again, I think her largely unnecessary. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. problem. >> Yeah, thanks. And actually it is interesting since we had the prior item regarding that, you back your revised report and we'll see in that the code. It's it's amending that same section I can hear the arguments for the logic in this. I can hear the concerns of Mr. Bond and really discussion again about how much process we have. One question I have, though, are there multiple community councils in Girdwood? if it's a question to counsel or or to the and that the reason at all mention and I'm looking at Page 2 between 9, 30 34 it just because only because we talked about this earlier describes multiple Community council's. I imagine this language was mirrored with AB, but obviously may not apply here. So I wonder we need to amend that. >> There are no community council agreed just 2 books. >> Then I'm gonna make a verbal floor amendment and just strike the phrase on page 2 line. 33, the 3 words multiple community councils in. I'm sorry for multiple community councils in. So they would just treat require public notice to girdwood. Yes, I just repeats. I'm looking at page 2 line. 33 and then striking the words after public notice. Where says the words multiple community councils in. I punished for not seeing that earlier than right now. Motion to members are saying. Second moved by probably Second spoke Monday. >> Do want to speak any more to it. >> just know that there are multiple community councils and this would seem to say that nothing would go to them, which I don't think is the intent of that section. >> And the further it on the amendment, summers. okay, hearing and seeing no further discussion members say proceed to vote on the amendment. Vote of 12 to 0 youth member votes. Yes, yes. Amendment. That man mask past. first, I am myself, Mr. Costa, so thank you. I generally. Position to support us, but I do have some thoughts that have just been kind of raised in this conversation. My rational, Mister, on kind of spoke to was that it just seems fair. river has this advisory board the issues are significantly different enough that the questions that they ask and answer just have a different gravity to them. Then might. Otherwise be for community council. But amendment just now made me rethink my thinking in the sense that should river has how many community councils? Like many and there's only one Girdwood and so. It definitely. And when you consider the next item that's coming before us, which seeks to again. Grab a substantial amount of authority to itself. We're going to we're being asked to. Posture. Girdwood I would say the most represented district. Out there early because of all of these layers for such a small number of folks. And so I am not moved from yes, but I'm not. Yes, right now, kind of stuck in the middle. So I just put that out there. I'm not sure where I'm going to land on this. Because those pieces matter self. source. >> understand kind of sympathize with wanting to have more representation >> I'm a little concerned. I think I would rather see something like this that is tailored to girdwood rather than just kind of copied from Hugo River, which is the community that is very different from them. And I think that might bring some unintended consequences. >> Which I think the previous amendment just really highlighted. One of the unintended consequences of just basically copying this over from Eagle River. So I think what I would like to do is I'd like to move to refer this for planning and review. >> Motion to refer to planning and zoning by over seconded by Mr. Holt. >> And I think I just spoke to the reason why so. >> Right? on the amendment. Mister Hollande? can tailor to the amendment. You know, we've talked a lot about as the body. Whether or not we should change certain timelines for the planning and zoning Commission. Because it can take them a long time to weigh it on a rezone comp plan amendment. The talked about the notice requirements. And so what this is doing is potentially adding another 30 days. You know, more timeline to any applications and proposals for development in Girdwood. And I just I really fear, you know, for trying to get to 10,000 homes in 10 years. Putting more and more processes in place that. Become de la Torre. And and actually hinder us from trying to achieve those goals. I would be interested in hearing the planning and zoning. Commissions input about weather. They feel like maybe this infringes on their turf a little bit or how would this impact their timelines when it comes to develop. So I can certainly see the wisdom. You know, I I was a little surprised to see something sponsor. But number Johnson waiving Planning and Zoning Commission review. >> So I don't. I'm gonna I'm gonna support the referral. Thank you, Mr. Chair. On the Amendment. Mister Martinez. one person. Mr. Johnson on the amendment. >> Yeah, I do not intend to support amendment as much as I often value giving PC the opportune way in. I want to emphasize and I think that speaks to the point member Silvers raised. This is following a practice that has already been established for to Yakima River right. And I see that there are distinctions between these communities, but in terms of a cut of 5 procedure that has been established and it's worked well for that community. And I think has worked find with the PC see process thus far. This is not a new concept. It is just recognizing the fact that Girdwood is a distinct community with in Anchorage. It even has its own section entitled. 21. And we're simply stating that as they do in New River. So too girdwood and give them the opportunity to provide an advisory opinions. also think as we've seen from the conversation earlier tonight, adopting this change, I do not believe will necessarily slow down the approval process. I mean, PCC is not raised concerns about the practice in River that we're already following in code, which allows for this advisory in nature process to take I believe it is even specifically address code can abuse or should not be used. I think probably the correct freezing here to delay the process. It is simply an opportunity to for the local board to weigh in I don't see this as being anything wildly different from what we're already a process that has worked in summer community. And I don't see a need to go through PCC because we're not talking about, you know, a land use change per se, just simply a process change that I think hardly different from what is already existing code. So thank you. ♪ >> On the amendment, mister President. A procedural question. It was a motion to approve and the amendment is amending the motion to refer No the Amendment. But essentially station caught amendment. It's the motion to refer a case that, you know, she has been changed a in the know the underlying motion This is a >> pretty calm. Subsidiary motion on the hob that has the floor. So the motion to refer essentially postpones the item and tell further review by the Planning and Zoning Commission. report come back to us. Great. Thank Want to trust thank you for clarifying language. On the motion to reform as well. Today. >> Thank you. I think I'm I'm disinclined support review of the review by PCC for the referral to PCC, I should say, I think for for the rationale for this is because I'm I'm. I'm more interested in this measure as an opportunity for guard want to be able to initiate its own. Title. 21. Review at to become a title. 21 review body and that that is the thing that is most interesting to me about this to give them the agency to actually enact their own plans and to add to operate as to get Key River advisory board does and in making text amendments to the code. And I think that's that's route. That's important to me. That that is more important to me than whether or not PCC feels like. Sending things to the Girdwood Board of Supervisors for review somehow adding to our usurping their role. I to me this feels like very straight forward decision to yes, we have this unique community. That has its own can text to a land use issues they need to be able to initiate. Title. 21 code revisions just the same way that the unique needs of she actually go river are represented by there. Pfizer I don't I don't understand why that requires PCC review of that. That seems like an unnecessary additional step to me. And I think I would I'm ready vote on motion. >> On the motion to refer probably point information share, Mr. >> A similar too. back off cameras point. When you describe the amendment. Are we the motion on the floor? Substance fundamentally changes. The original motion know it's it. For example, if we if this motion. then is it postponed or do we should vote again to postpone it? You know, it's this will be the ASOS offensively. This changes. I was going to speak on the main motion. But this substantively will eliminate that possibility. Speaking on the main motion, if it passes. So then I have a question for the administration because I think you'll have to speak now during the Q, but you can't you got to go now. Why is this something you're bringing to us? What is the what are What are we seeing here? Why are you encouraging this particular action? I would love to hear from the administration. Happy to respond to >> As to the chair member, Martinez, this proposal came out of the periodic conversations between the administration and GB OS and of the mayor's commitment to supporting the outlying communities within the municipality for you to take measures to our South determination to the extent feasible within the model that we have. We have a very unique service area model. We are several communities with and one community in a way that requires some unique attention to some of the questions and the desire for input in our communities and Chicago River and also in Girdwood DDoS highlighted for the administration that the language that is dresses, Sarah abs for review capacity is just different in code from what she BLS has and that that has had defense is for them and their ability to weigh in and to initiate coach Ange is entitled. 21 that impact directly impact land use in their community. And so when assessing that it felt like this was pretty kind of a no-brainer. And we send okay. The intent here is not necessarily for is not for Sarah for to get people our community fundamentally different process that had it has the same and 10 news language in country each that effectively has the same intent of attempting to have some degree of role in the land-use process. But the language is different. absence of this language in Valley service area that us portion of the code means that CBS has not been given functionally the same. I review and input authority that Sarah has been given on the same types of decisions impacting again their service area, which address has specific land use needs that are potentially distinct from the mask policy as a whole. So again in concert with member Johnson and CBO asking bring this proposal forward to align those provisions. And as you saw from that conversation, even with this memorialized in code for Sarah, sometimes enforcement isn't perfect. So having it in the code, is important to make sure that those steps are taken review prior to adoption of changes that might impact urban area. And also, again, to give to us that power to initiate things that they conversations they would like to have about changes in their within their service area. So that's the background. That's how we got here. Again, just simply really seeking to align the language word for word. And as number probably kind of good kind of good at it we made that was needed to because we actually potentially followed it to word for word in this instance. But that goal was to have both of remote communities the North. And committee says South have the same ability to have some guaranteed review and self determination over land use matters within their unique subsidiary sections of the community. Thank you for the opportunity answer the question. Let's project on motion to refer yet. >> Yeah, thank I'm also thinking about how I how it would reproach this one. but I will note that it has been asserted in this debate so far that that despite our code saying that every single change title. 21, regardless of what it is goes to planning and zoning Commission for review that there are situations in which should be waived. And so think that is discussion for another time. But that is something that we have circled around, at least since I've been on the spotty probably longer before I was here. And so I think that is something that we should take up separately in terms of referring this, the planning and zoning I think, again, I can see both arguments on the one hand they are designated in code that any time we change title. 21, they need to be consultant or they need. We need to get their recommendation. On the other hand, this is something essentially saying that we would formalize a step before planning and zoning Commission on anything related to girdwood that that's something we go to these 2 vast and then it would go to PCC. And so it is hard to make an argument that. Again, that every single title 21 change should go to planning and zoning. But I think I guess yeah, I'm-i'm still deciding on this referral. I do think the consequence would be simply that it would take more time and perhaps that is more in tune with and perhaps not. Thanks. >> Mr. On the motion yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair yeah, you know, I think this is a particularly interesting ordinances and speaking to the motion >> rougher. >> I. >> I do have a question for planning. So if you want to start walking up here. >> And then I'll then tell you, get here. >> So >> you know, I think Mr. Edging 10. It has been nothing but consistent on this idea of wanting to make it has some amount of self determination and in fact, agree with voters >> and 2023 approved Proposition 7, 2, ad called the Power provide services in support of policies that promote local. Housing and economic stability. And so I think this ordinance is an attempt to effectuate that further. I guess my question to planning is. What if this were to be referred to? Pcc? I know you all have a very full calendar that I have an ordinance that was are fair to all. >> Some time ago. And that still hasn't been taken up. So. How windy think this would be taken up by PCC? >> Threw the chair to member I believe that it would sooner than the ordinance that you reference. We would not be making any changes are recommending any changes to this, just become a case and go to PCC. I don't unfortunately have the calendar in front of me, but it probably take about 2 and a half months. Maybe 3. >> Okay. That's that's good to know that do they wouldn't be particularly significant. So I have to wait. One of the factors of this desire to so move forward with good Woods own self determination. And so the desire to make sure that we are following co checking all the boxes, making sure that we are producing a good product So, yeah, not sure how not sure how I'm going vote on Thank you. exercise the privilege of the chair. And asked that the commission take up that ordinance as time is getting short. >> Chair, we try to accelerate the process. >> Thank you. I think he's earned it. So let's get it back for him before we're done. Okay. Next, we have a strong back on the motion to her. >> Yeah, OK? So I think. I think this can get a motion to defer question for planning. and section 2. I guess item The language reads applications or proposals for developments in Girdwood, not including the pills. To be heard inside by land e-sports. The commission's jump, first transmitted to the Girdwood Board of Supervisors. In the hearing by such board or commission held not sooner than 30 days after transmittal. The way that I read that language absolutely days in advance of any other commission process such as Planning and Zoning Commission. Is that not your understanding that this would add 30 days to an already what can be a lengthy process? As we've heard here, we've had ordinances for months go. Waiting to go to planning and zoning commission. So how does this impact that time? >> Threw the chair to a number I understand the confusion. I asked the same question myself and I saw the language nationally. my understanding of that particular phrase is that it is not. We are not waiting 30 days for it to pass to make their decision. We're waiting. We're right, notifying vast 30 days prior to the decision making process PCC would come through on that item. So it just basically. Copies again. What see? our process with see wrap, which is that we identify. notify see rapped about 30 days prior to PCC meeting about case and that meets the requirement. >> So the state can happen in tandem. Yes. I guess that is my question for now. Thank you. Mr. Term. >> Okay. Don't know that we have anyone else. The county must refer. Okay. Members proceed to vote. And a vote of 6 to 6. The motion to refer us felt. Back on the main motion. Mister Martinez. Now I asked my question earlier and thank Appreciate the opportunity attend the main strip on it. Thank you. Mr. Chairs. I guess still. >> This sort of feels symbolic to me. I guess. I'm still unclear what is stopping girdwood from weighing in on. Title. 21 change proposals. At any point we could receive a resolution from them saying, hey, we wish you change this. Y Z. Any member can be responsive to that and take that up author legislation and bring that forward. So I guess I already consider G boss adviser to us. I don't. Still a need to formalize it. I understand, you know, looking at. Other outlying parts of the community. But I actually think we need to get a little bit of a way from this. I don't know. Hyper regional mindset. And realize that the the housing needs, the economic needs that we have. They extend across the municipality. And so. I think it's good to have input from different areas of town all the time unity councils from other stakeholder groups. But I guess I just don't see the need to to formalize Girdwood Board of Supervisors has an advisory board on land use and they can already give us that advice at any time and members can take them up on that device or Thank you, Mister Chair. myself. In the queue. So I'm still stuck and I'm not sure which way to go yet. And what's now coming to mind is that previous discussion that we had >> relating to the rezoning proposal in which we heard from the individual who felt that that you got river advisory board wasn't consulted and then we have planning staff. So just that they only had authority to review. They thought they only had authority to review items when it was requested of the community council to them not some to Novo power, to take up a question and pine. And so I'm still struggling to reckon with. This double layer of individual autonomy that's being granted to this one board. They have all the powers of the community council. They have all the powers of the Board of supervisors now they have this extra authority. I just can't quite understand it. So I'm struggling with that. And this one person. >> Thank you, Mister Chair. I think my that when entered the QS to species speak essentially to that and I would say, I think that that you get a coupon item provides exactly the example of why this code changes sought its to make sure that DDoS as both elected body representing the COVID Iran also defect or community council then make sure that things go to them just to ensure that they do. You know, we saw that step was messed with respect to that. To and the item and can order and it's here that this is request to codify is to ensure absolutely that U.S. can sue us. Ponte risk offer commentary on land use items of their own volition. But this make sure that as part of the notice process and as you heard from the planning director, it's part of the nerds process. It's not that this prolongs the the process of of taking a planning action anymore. So you know, current notice provisions already do. But it ensures that those that items are routed to GB last and that they're given the right to weigh in as body representing that regional portion of of the municipality. I would say. The question of regionalism and proportional representation. That center isn't broader than and this point here. And the goal here was this ordinance is to make sure that in the world we do the event in which we do have a municipality that is uniquely comprised of remote communities that have presentation, different structures, different service areas, different ways of providing certain services that we are supporting parallel I talk me and parallel review authority for both northern gays and our southern communities and the structure. >> That's part of the day. >> I will. I will yield to the next speaker who leave this booking at site of break. >> Thank you. Member Valdes made some good points here and that I feel that the girl community has been Well, representative. I have the ability to contact their assembly members and bring things forward. Have time to engage with boss and boss has acted as we've seen repeatedly and advisory role. So for that reason, I do find this fairly redundant not be supporting. >> We have exhausted the lengthy queue. Anyone else. Seeing holiday? And look at that coming you know, that everyone has been heard at least once I and we would love planning our someone from the administration to explain the functional difference between. A title 20 run review body. >> And that the the >> privileges and the responsibilities that that entails. As opposed to community council. I feel like there's that there's some confusion happening about this. What you what you want, what you are permitted to do as a title. 21 review body. I think that's a very important distinction. Because it it does change the equation as far as how Girdwood can interact with municipality. and if Davis doesn't mean that does the nation under current code? And then fundamentally they have to shop their ideas or their desires for title. 21 changes to the plant to planning first or to an assembly person or to someone else rather than being able to take action as a body and given the fact that they are a separate community that feels like a fundamental difference between. A community council and a title. 21 review body. So I think some some clarity on what that actually means is important here. >> Threw the chair to member Baldwin Day. I think that you basically answered the question in that they can initiate their own title. 21 changes just as PCC might be able to initiate a title. 21 change. >> At one follow-up question. So that give them then theoretically the opportunity to say draft draft, an ordinance title? 21 code revision and communicate that directly to the planning and Zoning Commission for their review. >> Theoretically, I believe soap I would need to check with staff on the exact process for OK? >> I'm also thinking about how this impacts the workload at the planning Department. And, you know, gives essentially a straight shot for some of these code changes rather than asking planning staff to do some of that lifting, putting that responsibility on G boss and said to me, that makes a lot of sense. So thank you. Mr. Johnson. >> Yeah, thank you. And I appreciate the questions in the place that memorable made here. And I think it speaks to one of the multiple reasons why support. That's right. Just again, them says that Korea already has its own section within title. 21, because we recognize the differences in land use needs and concerns Underwood from. The rest of the bull. And I think that. Merits more local autonomy aside from just the fact that is a distinct community, anyone who has gotten for girdwood not confuse it for any other part of Anchorage. And so I think it's it is a mistake to simply throw it in the mix for the rest of the bull. And I just I'm going to ask this question rhetorically. But if this process is so offensive to the spotty, then why have we never contemplated taking away? That's right. That has existed for I don't know how many years for to get yet. river and their advisory board is something that seems of work is not Dilatory unnecessary and >> I no doubt. All I but but look. >> But it did not seem offensive to anyone really until came up to May when only would asking to exercise the summer to write what this community has. I don't think there's something that is fundamentally broken hand now understand that some members may decide that this is something that they feel compelled to address. But I would point to this is system that seems to be working, allows these local communities to have more say, I think a reasonable same things that directly affect their community rate of Cardinal Blase and amenities in Girdwood is because it affects occurred. What's not because it affects the other 5 districts, another neighborhoods and anchors. They are not stepping on anyone else's toast. You're simply by weighing in on these title. 21 issues, right? This is not infringing upon the rights of anyone else. An increase to have a voice be heard. This. >> is unique. And I think just out of it certain to Korea of respect and deference to the community. It is a very very reasonable think on to play for them. >> The record didn't get that was left for across the diocese when Mr. Johnson suggested why hasn't anyone contemplated and doing this? Northam, I can offer that. In fact, it has been contemplated, but it was weight is really practical. So at in the past by some members. Anyhow with that. As a very interesting debate, members may proceed to vote. And a vote of 9 to 3. And the number of votes. Yes, yes. In 2025 dash one. 43 past the body. Next. 14 G 14 G is 2025 dash one. 44 an ordinance amending a municipal code for about 6200 Landbank Advisory Commission to require 2 members that reside in the Kirkwood area and further defined. But the area in Eagle River. Should area public hearing. This item is now open. Noticed a beard. Stretching to welcome. Please tearing them apart 100 my catching 2. Yes, but again, I'll be brief. >> I think the justification and the explanation behind it is already in your pocket. I would just say one of the argument is often made is so much of a job. The land is in good with that. I would actually make the opposite argument most school developable land which already developed in Good isn't PH L B. for good with to solve any of the problems around housing. It has. A has will require hlb land. So we ought pretty much solely dependent on H O B. And if you just so many of up housing and other associated problems, thank you. Can we call >> Hello. >> Sullivan. Hi. This is Anchorage Assembly were taking tests one 14 gl 2025. Dash one. 44. Which is amending and produce will code here. Just Land Bank Advisory Commission. Please state your name. A part of town have 3 minutes. >> Thank you for your attention on item for Team evening. I'm keep U.S. members speaking in support to designate at least 2 HR be commission for Girdwood residence. In principal Hlb land or patient. And representation is not aligning the 5 feet on each lpa seat. The fact that about half of a chill, the land holdings are within Girdwood Bally and the vast majority of plan to double for future development within girdwood at well as the recreational resources are held by hlb make resulting role and decision-making won having outsize impact on our go to a community because Hlb Advisory commission is tasked with reviewing and advising Hlb decision having more than one out of 7 feet for a resident of Girdwood scene. Extremely reasonable. If not absolutely necessary. Clearly more representational, proportionate. Fortunately for the last several years, hardwood residents have had more than one seat on a child be a fee. However, it is not codify. was purely situational applicant vacancies in the approval process. Ultimately at the assembly, local. During the previous administration and unfortunate amount of reorganizing occurred, which thankfully has been corrected and a chill the running a very organized crew. Now. Updating code would only benefit Hl the current and future land users, owners and lasting giving most affected stay and actions right in their environment. Keep us resolve support you. Update. Municipal code to get in second each of the ACC for Greenwood resident for more, I wanted stress of thank you for the Am. 9-1-1, 2025 which often are the Panera not precluded from appointing more than one Greenwood area resident to the commission. And there's no cost to the measure. It does not prevent additional gurgling area. Residents from appointment to the board. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone office to be heard on this item. Public hearing is now closed. That's when the body proof. Mr. Johnson's second in Miami spoke Monday, Mr. Johnson. >> Yeah, thank you. I think again, want to play, I mentioned we might hear some some argument what we heard last item, but I really want to emphasize what Mr put out here. Is that almost any development in Girdwood because of the geography of the Valley and the amount of its and initial bees inventory requires going through the hlb process and that is very unique and distinct from any guy. >> In Anchorage makes it significantly different from again being conflated with any other part Anchorage in terms of how impacted the our by the decisions of this advisory commission. And so I think if you're talking about this concept of proportional representation. When we weigh the impacts one way, the amount of hlb land that is in Girdwood. I think this is a very reasonable step. You know, when you have 50% mandatory, but still only 2 out of every 7 seats that still. Again, not being allocated based simply on land there. It's actually a lower amount. And so I think this is a a fair compromise. >> So the Heritage Land Bank owns and manages over 250 parcels within the municipality representing many different types of land use industrial residential business, recreational Parkland, utility, easements and wetlands to name a few of these types out of over 250 parcels with Ingrid, what there are 58 parcels of which 11 we're shown in a recent study to be suitable for development totaling about 2100 acres out of 12,800 acres of land. What has about 2500 residents, the municipality as a whole has a population of 290,000. It will be parcels across the municipality are permitted and or least 2 utilities, businesses, social service organizations, telecommunications schools, fire stations, the railroad, the state of Alaska, the U.S. Forest Service FAA and other very user groups. I think writing a policy that gives 2500 residents. 2, 7, Required to 7 CE of the representation just because they have more raw land in their area and this policy would also give rural residents if you include the Eagle River seat, nearly half of the representation on the it'll be bored, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me given the diversity of uses and the importance of the hlb lands to the municipality as a whole. So I really see this kind of raw land argument has only one very small piece of a much larger puzzle and I will not support this change because I believe it would leave a large diversity of users underrepresented on this board in the municipality as a whole. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah. That's an interesting set of arguments. I think quarter of the population. I think there's the you know, do you look at it like the house or you look at it like the Senate type argument? Is that the geography or is that the population that should be the representation? >> And this is still an advisory commission. I think my question is really some looking at this language and says in the current code because I'm looking at where it's being amended here at least one originally, Cesar says now at least one member shall reside in that area. Then qualifies what that means. And so this does and kind report that says of the proportional representation, but also begs the question is there's ceiling on the number of folks who can be from Goodwood either. And so I think what we're asking is do we increase the floor or do we leave it to wear? It possible to have more than one member and question to the administration. If this passes, does this require vacation of any seats or are there more than one member who represents or who resides in Greenwood right now. >> Here's a chair to Vice chair rally. This would have no change on the composition. Fhlb Hlb are already has 2 members from the Kirkwood area as defined in code. So then really the question is, do we want to codify this such that when those members are not reviewed or term out or whatever the term that leave. >> Should they be always replaced by someone from Girdwood and I guess yeah, this one again, I in torn because I can see very valid arguments on both side of it. So also see my time, but I just wanted to flag for folks that does say at least thanks. >> Thank you, Mr. Constance, this one is harder for me than the prior on. That. It in conjunction with the other one. But seems like a lot of power to be consolidating into as a source of 2500 people. One 10th of the municipality. Less than my math. Don't trust my mouth. One percent, one percent of the municipality. All right. It's that time of night, this small percentage of the municipality. And so I'm like the one prior the arguments were really resigning to mean this one is a much harder argument to make. While it is an advisory commission and its name. There is no other commission that meaningfully puts before us a 5 year plan every year. The cuts multiple meetings lots of time and we have the item coming before us and it does, in fact, set out the procedures and the timelines and the plans for moving far inland into consumption into use. And so it's in that gray area between an advisory commission Tory position or a position that actually. Like the previous poll we just took has the right and authority to move forward proposals into the system through its mechanics. And so I don't know that I am. Opposed to this one, but my default position on this one is probably not. And so I look forward to hearing from everyone Mr. Kerr. Thank you. Mister Chair. >> You when I look at this and I see what Mr Johnson is trying to see the heart of where he's at on it. I applaud that. But this isn't a static thing, right? I mean, Hlb is something that that move send. They might have 49% of the land now, but that might not be the case years from now. So if we're making a permanent something permanent in code based off of a temporary condition that just doesn't seem like the best soundtracks to me. And as believe, Miss Sullivan Notated. The mayor made a point more people from girdwood just one. So if there's there's a vacancy and there's there's interest and there's somebody from Kermit is interested in doing that, the mayor, any American can appoint So I will I will be a no on this for for the reasons stated and appreciate that. Thanks. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair, I think for. Similar reasons that I supported the last ordinance likely be. >> Voting no on this ordinance. If you look at the mission of the heritage thing Bank. I'll just read that really question of it. It is the mission of the heritage Landing to manage uncommitted municipal land and the Heritage Landing Fund in a manner designed to benefit the present and future citizens of Anchorage. it goes on. Interpreting encouraged to be more the universal we the municipality of Anchorage, not just the acreage ball. The code here doesn't see to benefit president future citizens of So. I don't understand why we would through this ordinance attempts to and give a higher percentages of representation when really we're talking about for the benefit of. >> All. >> The people who reside in the municipality of Anchorage >> we should have to self determination to figure out what to do with these lands. And I think for reasons that were stated prior. Who knows what's going to happen. You know, decades down the line. So for these reasons, I believe voting no on this with its. Mr. Bond. >> Thank marcher. Well, number of Arab still to but that I was going to make at the website pulled up the mission. But I think it's also important to our out a sentence out in the mission is also to achieve the goals that the comprehensive plan. And that's the comp plan for for Anchorage. Again, not just one part. I think original brings me back to this sort of Piper regionalism and who get special consideration, which parts of town get special consideration in decisions. I'm interested in how each of the land and what we do with it. It's going to benefit my constituents. President Peter Mountain Dew. In Fairview. And downtown. And again, I think that we need to kind of zoom out a little bit and take more of a bird's eye view of how we are. All parts of the municipality are economically connected. And we need to be able to build new housing various parts of the municipality. So I want to get I hope that we can actually move more. Of our thinking in the sense of we are parts of the hole. That we are not. Just neighborhoods, these regions sport where part of a bigger ordinance. And that we can be a more united acreage and in some of our thinking. So I also would not be supporting sticking Mr. Responding >> I'd like to move to postpone this ordinance until such time as we have itemized and prioritize list of developable land in the Heritage Land Bank Holdings. >> We need little bit more specificity. Time specific or indefinitely. Or a referral. >> I work. >> When is our work session with HIV? >> So we've got get to the work session. The public hearing is meeting February 17th. >> And just >> yeah, I think that that I would like move to postpone consideration of this item until the meeting of >> March. Motion to postpone to March second. Moved by MS Bald and a second by Mister Johnson. I speak to >> Yeah, I So since I came on the body, I've been really curious to see this list. What what are the holdings of hlb that are actually developable where those parcels exist. And and what are potential challenges with developing them? And I have yet to see that list even something that when we were on board at them when the new members were on board was trust coming. So I think I would like to see what that really looks like before considering that actual makeup of the Heritage Landing Advisory Commission, as I think that will be informative, at least from my decision-making here. And I think it might also inform my colleagues opinions. >> On the motion, Mr. Johnson. As one person. >> I think Mister actually originally intended not speak on that motion that this motion, but I would I would often but like to come in, which is that the administration would not oppose and actually would support taking more time to consider that staff Ali. And it's a private for context and background. This came out of this. This ordinance came in the same conversation with her, but about questions self determination on land use matters and does represent something of a compromise solution somewhere between the desire of the committee members which Verges March 2 words segmenting off plans entirely to be part of a subsidiary Hlb given by by by the region. This is really a. Increase in guaranteed representation which mirrors what has been practice on the boards by Dunn, you know, by the fall because of interest in being on the age of board from members of the community in Girdwood and provides for something that looks a little bit more proportional to gravity decisions that are made for this region. would say we hear and I know from this side of the table, we hear from members from all regions of community about clear importance of representation of your district, whether it's on the CASA border on whatever other boards are represent our the community as a whole. So it is something that we hear on various things in this is hearing this from with respect to this and propriety providing this is potentially compromised stations. I would very supportive taking time to thoughtfully consider it. Consider how this aligns with the each of the work plan. And I and whether the body would like forward. Thank you. >> On the motion to postpone the source. >> Yeah, I just want to say such a study has been done and is on the website for Girdwood and those numbers listed were 11 suitable parcels for development totaling 2154 acres. And so that's out of. 12,800 roughly acres of land holdings within the municipality. >> On the motion to. Responsible. Yeah. Thank March. I'm ready to dispense with this tonight. want Spartan motion to postpone. I just I'm not convinced that proximity to each of the land should give. One neighborhood so much special consideration. I myself in the queue, Mr. Blonston. as one person. By implication. Does that mean that? Because? 90% of the municipality, he's in art side that Casa Board should expect to have. More than half of the seats if that such a board comes into existence, right? If talking about representation and equity, then that question cuts across any number of domains. And so that's not that's a rhetorical question. I know it's not serious, but that's the implication that I take away. When we talk about we're not being representative. If they don't have 2 seats, even though they're one percent of the municipality. So that for me is is an issue that I have to square. And the issue that I also have to square is through that painful to your debate. That I was slandered. I was trashed. It was suggested I would murder people to that land development and I think were questioned. Allies were spread from community Council to community Council to Community Council manufacturing. Narratives that were absolutely shocking to me that were false. Provably false demonstrably false. it was generated by a handful of people who at one of them, even a believer recently is no longer on. things forward. And so probably it is good to wait for me. Maybe postpone this because when I hear occurred with say they aren't represented and we pile layers and layers of additional representation on them. I think that. Good to be from right now. I'll just say that I probably will support this motion to postpone. I am in some ways offended again by this conversation as it goes on. that's where I sit. Anyone else on the motion to. A members-only proceed to vote. On a vote of 8 to 4. This item will be back for us on March. The 3rd. And the youth Yes, that's yes. Sorry about that. Okay. Next 7 14 age which our 2025 Dash 3 79 resolution in a spot Anchorage rating. 2 million, $316,000 from earnings within the family. Trust 7, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0 for expert financial management. Support services provided in calendar year 2026. Public hearing on the side of snow and it was spared. none public hearings closed. That's where the body approved. time was probably a second on today. Speak to none members makes a vote. On a vote of 12 to turn number of votes. Yes, our 2025 dash 3, 7, minutes past the body. Next 7.14 I resolution or 2025 dash 3.82 resolution in respect of Anchorage topping municipality of Anchorage, Public Transportation Agency safety plan, the kind items now open which run item. none public hearings close. What will the body? But I must cry. Second second second most Monday. Any discussion. Perot. >> We want our public transportation agency to be safe anyone else? Mr. Van at Mister Martinez. Sorry, a plane to mean you guys have been working on safety on the bus system for a long time. So. Thank you, chair. As any good politician will do. I take the microphone and offer a couple of words. I just appreciative of the transit department. People mover for continuing to kind of put a critical spotlight on safety improvement our public transit as a lot of challenges. And it's not where it needs to be for city that we need to become. But I think we're moving in the right direction. Last year we started with protections for transit operators are finding high levels of assault coming out of the pandemic. And we did something to protect them as we continue to improve. The safety on the buses now where we've opened it up for. Used to ride free 18 and under. Giving them more economic opportunity to be mobile. But we need to save us for that. And then we're extending an extra free day care for seniors. So again, critical infrastructure, protecting it. It's a good thing. moving in the right direction. And I encourage colleagues to support this work. Thank you, anyone none members may proceed to vote. On a vote of 12 to 0 in number of us. Yes, they are 2025, dash 3.82 Is past the body that concludes our regular agenda will now move into our quasi judicial and Administrative section. Thank you, Mr. Tavares. >> The state late tonight, but only by 4 minutes. thank you very much. Next, we'll have item 15 a resolution Twenty-twenty 6 dash one. Resolution accessible. Somebody stating it's conditional protest regarding the transfer of ownership, location of beverage dispenser. License number 4, 5, 3, one for BK. All Cdphe building located at 4.40, Western Avenue, Anchorage, 9 and Pfizer. public hearing on item is now open and, you know, should be heard. none public hearings now close with of the body. >> Move to approve second. It's probably sometime this fall Monday. Let's briefly got to speak to this item, Mr. thank you. some of you may remember the very challenging. Process. We went through relating to a potential nightclub 3rd and G or no 30 E. this is one more step in the conclusion of that story. This transfers. The license from the previous operator to a new operators. Actually, the building owner who has in the special and use permit. We've already approved committed to not have a nightclub close at one and no matter what. And no kind of shenanigans. And so there are some concerns because this issue keeps coming back up and it raises people's they're on the back of their neck every time rightly so. And so, but I do believe that this is we're getting close to the very last steps of that process, which has taken the years. So heard your support. And say thank you. none members next. You to vote. vote of 12 to 0 or 2026 dash one. This past the body next is item 15 be resolution or 2026 dash 2 resolution to Anchorage Municipal Assembly standings, conditional protest regarding the new beverage dispensary tourism license number 6 or 2, 3, 2, the restaurant endorsement for 108, East 8th Avenue LLC, dba 108, East. 8th Avenue looking at when used to have an app. Anchorage, Alaska public hearing on this item is open. Anyone wish to be heard. Senior non. Public hearings now closed. Let's to prove second. Motion to approve by must farmed seconded by MS Brawley. Any discussion. members may proceed to vote. On a vote of 12 to 0 2026 dash 2 of his past. The body. Item 15 see resolution or 2026 Dash 3 resolution Christmas was somebody regarding the transfer of controlling interest. Paul marijuana cultivation 1, 1, 6, 3, 5, 7 dairy farms in retail 1, 5, 4, 7, cloudberry cannabis for just a show. Nick. Move to postpone indefinitely. Motion to postpone indefinitely or second. Second second by Miss Balding day. >> So folks who are reading closely their agenda might have noticed that there is another item 10 B to that looks very, very similar to this. However, it came after this one. So essentially this was an item that was prepared because certain documents had not been submitted which what is triggered a conditional protest. But since that time, those things happen. And so we actually already approved these things and waived her right to protest. And so the move would just be to dispatch with this item by postponed. Any further discussion. >> Seen here in members may proceed to vote. The motion postponed indefinitely. On a vote of 12 to 0 or 2026 Dash 3 has been postponed indefinitely. next, we have item 15 dd 15 Diaz era Twenty-twenty 6 dash 4 resolution of the increased responsibly approving a cause specially sprint for the package store are 1, 5, 9, 6, for AK the VA Speedway Express B 3 general business district located at 101 east. Public hearing on this item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard. And it Welcome. Good evening us. On behalf of the applicant, Protect from, you'll have 3 minutes. You could even make a short time The operative word here. If there's any questions or concerns. >> Or to address any public comments on the application. Thank you. Anyone else was spared. Please come forward. Please state your name. A part of 10 from have 3 minutes. Thanks for sticking around. So late, tough, really fast. >> My name's on Robinson. I'm a resident in that area and I deal with the garbage. although result, needles and everything in the area with the homeless people that live there. We have a package store, I believe on fire. We'd already. And so while I am not at all adverse economic development, I am adverse to special use permit because I believe it The garbage will not be managed and I'm tired of picking it up. I live there. It's what I see I had a nice little homeless. It's a community that live near me where the rule is. No, no garbage, no violence, no cops, no problem. And we had several residents of this triple. And that's right next to me, participate in picking up that particular area land. It was so pleasant to live there. So I would say that if proprietor is here to chat, I would love to chat about how we're going to maintain the property for the people that live and work in that area and also have offices. I offices also there. >> Out of question for you. Can you come have a question for all. place. my question for you is the nature of the trash and material talking about the debris and needles as on their property or off of their prom. Pretty gets on their property. >> if I if I'm correct as to the parcel. >> The parcel it would be south. >> Assuming there's O'Reilly's and then there's a side thing that goes into the speedway and then there's a big vacant. lot. >> South east. East on Barrow Street, but south of Rhymes South parcel year. Clinton try to. >> So that's okay. full kind of get to the bottom. I just wanted to hear if you were talking about Kuz will. I think the property we're talking about is the gas station. Yeah. In the corner, yes, right. And so and there's a car wash. Yep. >> And then, right, Jason to the car wash. East of car, wash the land that's being that's I could identify on. The map is being sorry. You're good as being the one wants to be developed into a liquor store. >> Okay. So hold on finish the public hearing. Thank you, Madam. I think yeah, if there's anyone else who wishes to be heard, please come forward. Please state your Part of 10 from still have 3 minutes. >> Adam Klein Midtown a neighbor of that of the property in question. We've been dealing with a home this situation there for well over 10 years. And we've been pretty patient with it, although been very challenging. I think the one thing that would like to say is looking at that particular area. That is one acre where there's 4 intersections, which are probably the busiest intersection Anchorage and you're going the liquor store. On the northeast corner. There's already enough pedestrian deaths in that area. Youve got Walmart. You've got You've got Fred Myers. You've got cars. Fireweed has brown jug. There's plenty enough access all in that area. My main concern is the safety for pedestrians and that one acre of a street C street norm light and then Anyone else wish to be heard. Senior nonpublic area is now closed with small them. move to approve. >> Motion to approve. probably second second on Monday. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the representative please come up? So I am looking here. This isn't the staff packet attachment. 3. It's the memorandum understanding between the meantime, Community Council and a proprietor signed spy. The proprietor on January of last year, almost year ago. are you aware of this memorandum understanding? >> I helped negotiate it. I met with them in council couple of times. >> it is it your intent to upholds to the agreed Items in this memorandum of understanding. Yes, correct. Okay. And when >> do you regularly go to them? Attend community council meetings, say the words. I'm the representative that goes to the midterm community council meeting Mr. Ray Mike, raise with me today. He's from a Larry King. >> He would be that he's in charge of the state of Alaska be the representative that would meet with Michelle Council. Okay. But not with him a couple of times. Okay. Wonderful. >> So I think those were the primary questions that I wanted to get on the record. And so thank you. I'm looking at this memorandum of understanding I'll just say plainly that the Midtown Community Council doesn't doesn't mess around with us. These types of issues there are quite diligence and serious about So totally respect and understand to the concerns from from the neighbors. And I would encourage, you know, if folks haven't gone to the Mid Community Council to engage with that council either by attending the meetings. But the meetings for your awareness held in the middle of the day. So folks may not be able to attend, but until at least let someone in the community council know about these issues so that they have awareness. But this provision, the provisions in this memorandum of understanding quite similar to other provisions that I have seen from them attend community council, things like the package store will not so shooters in the facility. The Packers to will not carry forward if a beer. The package store will identify our Har all hard liquor that is sold. >> With a sticker >> so these these different things, too. I will not sell liquor in less than 375 milliliter bottles. So there's different things that are in here to really help when keeps some of the products that we know folks who may abuse them, keep them off the shelves and then to to really help identify this particular location is. Eyes of the issues. Then some of these provisions to help in here will help us to identify that. And I've seen this be successful in other community in licenses. We've been able to pinpoint particular location is the issue. And we've been able to address it sometimes in the worst possible way, which is getting the location shut down. If they're not able to adequately address the issues. So I feel pretty confident in what the Meat MPD Council has negotiated in moving forward with this license. But want to, as I often say, let the folks know that we are going to be paying attention because this is a big concern to the community. Thank you. rally. >> Thank you. And thank you, Mr. Rare for pointing to you I think it's very helpful and it does really address staffing security. So my question 2 that petitioner here, the representative more specifically with security and kind of trash maintenance. And I bring that up because I in my area of town or or my district area, the gas station that win northern lights in Minnesota. There's similar discussion about trash right around. It's right near the high school. And I know those folks took that seriously. Some wondering how you are going to take this seriously or your client. They do take it seriously that they want their site to remain clean and tidy for their customers as well. >> They have no desire for it to spread out to neighboring properties. Thank you. Yeah, I don't servers. Great advice to go to the community council and especially if there are complaints or issues to address those there. First. >> And then lastly, I will that I know from the history of spin our Community Council in the in neighborhood of Spin Art. >> Similarly has struggled with a number of especially package stores in their area. And in fact, one could argue that part of the origin story Midtown Community Council has to do with community review of liquor licenses. And so it is interesting but I this is not the first gas station that has been brought up is as an issue as it's gone through these approval process ease. And so just to say, I think that U.S. that we should have heightened review of these ensure that the business owners are being responsible. So thank you again for being here. Monday. Yes, thank you. I understand that this is a licensed transfer. What was the former location for this license? It was over of Hollywood. >> Yeah, that our lease route out that facility. So we had to transfer Hollywood. And what was the Cross street? >> Apartments I don't the top. Okay. can look it up. It should be in the application package that went to >> I couldn't. I actually can find I couldn't find that former address. But I I I. I can figure that out. >> actually apologize. This one was that mold is at 5.45 Hamilton? Okay. So. >> As the as the other Midtown representative. I. There's been a lot of conversation about the relative concentration of package stores in the Midtown district. >> And what I'd like to point out for my colleagues just for your awareness is that on Page 14 of our 33 page packet item 11 says alcohol concentration impact. This is something that I think it's really important that we pay attention to collectively as a body. When we are looking at these package licenses, this one particular says, well, it is acknowledged that there are 2 other active liquor licenses within approximately 1000 feet of the proposed location. The applicant is not proposing the addition of a new license into the municipality. So that is It's but it's coming in to Midtown. And now we have 3 package stores within 1000 feet each other, which I think is something worth considering. When the Midtown Community Council says that they have a higher concentration of package tours and also dispensaries. They're not kidding. I I and I so I want to be really clear that the responsibility for your client is absolutely heightened. And this scenario for the reasons that were mentioned by members of the community with respect to pedestrian safety. And I understand here that there is an agreement that you intend to monitor and manage the exterior of the property that there that there won't be onsite consumption. But I also recognize that your authority to enforce that does not extend all the way to say the sidewalk. And so I want I want to be clear, I'm very, very concerned about this. And I I have serious misgivings. I understand economic. understand economic development. However, economic development at the expense of people making really poor choices and potentially being fatally injured by vehicles in that vicinity that that's a really, really difficult for me well. I want that I want my colleagues to hear that because when when this comes back to us, these are questions that I'm going to ask. And I hope that there are satisfactory answers renewals as our is right. Yes. And just to be clear, I don't believe that there's to package stores within 1000 feet. >> They're just other liquor licenses have to look to see if if they're actually package stores. Walmart. >> I know I know the law I believe Serrano is being slightly different. But Serrano says yet every intention to operate the license safely. >> And very seriously, I appreciate that. I also understand that there's a limit to what you can reasonably enforce in terms of where public right away excess and where know that the property line is. >> So so thank you for being willing to work with the community Council. I hope that that is a fruitful relationship. And I sincerely hope that this is not a grave mistake on our part. >> We value that relationship ourselves. Mr. Martin's, thank you. Chair just for background clarification. At 5.45 Muldoon. Just directly across the street is a brown I believe so. Directly across the and so I'm curious to just the facility that you're in, you're moving to now is is as gas station. And you're going to put the package store inside the gas station similar to like holidays and you serving correct. That. The reason why I mention the ground jog on Muldoon on 6th Avenue was right across the street. Maybe been a while since you've to come on back and we have so much on Muldoon. I'll show you. But the reason why I mention that is because the brown jug specifically at that location and I believe. Almost all of the locations in east Anchorage and maybe in some of Midtown have. Access security at the door. Where you have to swipe your ID to get into that part of the store is are you going to have similar security mechanisms? The experience be closed. The exterior door will be closed and not and no injury. The injury has to come from inside the same way we do with our other building spin Art and Minnesota. >> You have to access from inside the store. Id theft, be given, have to be in and then opened the door. >> All right. Thank you. And mention that because it's been a it's been a useful. The tournament. A lot of folks have challenges and that's where you catch the red stripes. And and you correct, prevent some of things. And I do want to flag that chair. It seems to me that when we hear could make complaints around the community with respect to other things, problems, drugs paraphernalia. In Newburry danger. I just want to throw distinction out there chair. Maybe I'm just hearing it. I tend to hear them related to alcohol establishments more than I related to cannabis establishments. And I'm pointing that out, particularly because when we are complaints about smell, we can't. It's usually about the operation at not about necessarily the runoff into the community that has some of these negative impacts. And so what I recognize is that around cannabis shops that have such security and cameras that they're not the lingering outside happening. And so how do we prevent lingering? Happening from a from a destination point of a package store into the immediate area which then speaks to the community. Concerns about. What's happening and leftover. Do you all have a plan? But you can least articulate be on the M O U. >> Absolutely. with the location we plan on having roving patrol. That's been a place to stay one. I mean. Speaking my we're going to be having a roving patrol at that say we may have a standing guard. 1, 3, if with its secure the liquor license at this location. I mean, even the last we've had just after that stories over $100,000 in the previous year, and that's without a liquor license. So having that. And we also put in if you look on the back of that building now, which I'm sure you've seen, I can dial in right now on my phone and show you the back of the building. How clean it is. There's no bombs back there. I can literally doubt I can speak through the cameras. They have flashing lights in the back. Also going put one on the front. We didn't Minnesota and news location and that location, all the homeless are gone. So we've made huge strides of the company in California. What they've done in California, what we're doing here to try to eliminate those issues. We have over almost 30 licenses in Alaska for the safety purpose that you brought up Baldwin. We had no issues. We are like a license are all 100%. That's standing. We do everything we can to be in 100% percent compliance with with the city and the state and the federal government. We're doing everything we can to do it right. And that's what we pride ourselves right chair just one last comment for future reference. We're talking about humans. Some of them have challenges that some of these establishments contribute to. I do not appreciate the term bomb being utilized to describe people who may have the challenges that your business contributes to. I just want to put it on the record. It on my humans. And that's the best way to approach. Thank you, chair. Thank let you go. First Thank I'm not here to question your guys. Business practice business plans to say if there's competitors to closer. >> Are too far away. I wish you the best sounds like an engaged. The community council. Sounds like you put a lot of effort into running a successful and, you know, clean business for your customers. I'm sorry to hear that you had implement so many factors in here. I'm not here to point fingers out saying why are you doing this? Why are you doing that? But I'm I'm pointing fingers up here why the lawlessness this community's impacting you so harshly that. That were questioning why you have you don't have cameras and guards and roving patrols. I believe you keep a clean business, a successful business. And if it comes to that and there's code enforcement we have laws on the books to to address, then we'll address it if it comes to that. I wish you the best. Thank you. >> Thank So I have several questions, Mr. some looking at the property and the property is an L shape and the business is not intended to build a new liquor store. Does it because it was kind of communicate? It seems like there was a proposal to build a new building on that narrow streets. I'd do. No. We're just talking about using the current structure that is the gas station case. That's question number one. I think my next question is for Mister Rivera. I mentioned briefly under item which that property on 3rd Avenue that we're coming to the end of a very long process. What we did do and the special land use permit. For that item months ago. Now is we set certain conditions in there like the things that were negotiated in you by the community counts on the package store, not all of them, but the ones that seem to be from our judgment, the things that have historically created problems for locations. And so like the shooters, if it's not in the special land use permit, it's not real. It's just a gentleman's agreement between parties that aren't. Related to each other in the end and then we always find ourselves struggling to fix that problem. And so first, my question is, did you think about adding those elements into the special and he's from it because this is the time. >> Yeah, thanks, Mister Chair short, I'll give it right and wrong answers. So short answer to that is no long answer to that is there is precedent doing that. in Midtown as well. There was some years ago another special and use permit where we also put those. And do think it's important to consider that because if there are issues which we hope parents, but if there are issues it goes and co and one of the top things them whole determined is if it's arbitrary, capricious and so having those in the actual special use permit helps avoid that. >> So recognizing this a special land use permit. Obviously the business wants open. What's your timeline for opening? >> I would have to build inside the buildings. Got a couple all. It would take too long. Come under. So yeah, I would suggest something to make the motions. You know, I'm the chair, but I would suggest taking 2 more weeks coming up with. Us version or some amendments. We can do it now. But it's, you know, it's 10, 30 night and loved making sausage on the dice. But I think on the shooter come to mind, you know. That is a long story. Mom and pops and anyhow. So I would suggest it is good to prevent practice when the special instrument here to address the question before us. There because once he gets a license too late. Time make a suggestion, maybe possibly just having a memorandum of agreement in place with the community Council that's mutually agreeable, right? That allows some fluidity. >> With it, but not sending specific limitations right? >> So I think we should reserve the debate for the members up here for member wants ask you that question. It's fair. Keep the order Ms Bradley was in the queue. >> Yeah, I have question. What would be the material impact if we postpone this two-week. So it would be the meeting of the 27th. I do affect your bottom lines. They won't. Ok, then I'm gonna go ahead and move to postpone this to the meeting of good January 27th with the purpose of digging into the land use special permit conditions. Second. >> Motion to postpone time. Certain a sprawling seconded by. Mr. Rivera. And I'll just briefly speak to that to the members of the something. This is your only chance, really for a couple years unless there's something crazy that goes off the rails, the causes you to have to bring the special land use permit up. And so I think taking on a review of the wrist, the agreements that were made between the parties. Incorporating those that make sense from your experience is going to serve the spotty in the future and serve the business because you won't find yourself and conflict. You have an answer. And so I support the motion to postpone. none members may proceed to vote. >> give you a So someone on a vote of 8 to for the motion postpone has past. And I think it's a great opportunity for the neighbors to talk with the petitioner. for the members of the assembly to just take a moment and look at what and I love the idea of a memorandum shall be in place. So that actually concludes our business agenda for the night. We. Have a Cup hill ready. We have a couple of folks for audience participation on the phone and I'm sure we'll have a few in the room. Started the phone. Can we please call the first person in the car? >> Please keep your name number. >> Can we call the second person on the list? Thanks for stand this all night. Is cause got this Anchorage assembly were taking audience participation. >> This is the Anchorage Assembly calling for audience participation. >> Maybe try e-mail us again. Thank you. Okay. So else wish to be heard here. Please come for now. Is your opportunity. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> was concerned with the improper cool and too tired. Jaime Lopez formally coalition from the homeless, mostly in prepared yeah, that's a tough act to follow. Where do we go from here? Yeah. So in general on a more serious side of things, you are feeling people. And I'm not joking about that. One. And, you know, for the past months, essentially people off. I've been going almost every night to people hand warmers to people food, trying to keep them alive and also trying to prevent frostbite and serious injury. And, you know, the whole team ladies about 40's week and they're starting come to realization on right about a lot of things. But that's kind of how that Yeah. You know what? The the goals Lofty. decision makers are tone yet the stakeholders or not invited to the table and I am one of them and so more or less. nobody wants to pay for real outreach. It's just it's a sad fact. What can I say? There are people in this room that know what I publicly warning on privately they do of the journalists. And I'm at the point of checking out for the simple reason that nobody wants to paint and nobody wants actually go out now people in and make sure they survive. And she sent give you a couple examples. I can't call written you know, basically minute and 30, but there is a percent. The Alex Hotel, essentially they've implemented policy, really keep people out after 90 days, if only he able to take long evacuated and could be worst into the hotels and apartments. some of these got a job. But no, he's right back outside the car. January first came to people in a tent who essentially an onset hypothermia and where MERS to warmers. check on next day. And they were in a bad state. So I took him down increase safety center and they had a dog and were listed called somebody might or might not have been in charge of that facility. And came out asking for me, my name probably not to worry about helping the people that because I was there and so were less within the path he said bumped and that those 2 a week later and they told me that no, nobody helps get them over these 50, 60 next day. 3 days later, their dog gave birth to puppies in any animal control was called. And then the police department stop buying. They were trying to strip the puppies and the dog from now on. And why would anybody you know who's outside want to go to a shelter? Pets, separate you and now they're taking them from and so much that one play out. And then there was family. 3 people who essentially they were overdue Shuster and they never got help during that appeal black or sugary. Well, anyways, take maker Safety Center housing, a hotel the next day. Essentially some of the calls and says know your husband Campion here because essentially what ends up happening is Stacy's of her service on incarcerated. And now they're talking buyers. >> All right. Thank you to also wish to be heard. Please come Welcome, please. State your name. A part of Turner from you'll have 3 minutes. >> Walker that's been our probably in the minority here tonight that I was disappointed when I heard that the sales tax is going to be postponed indefinitely. Not because I particularly love paying taxes, but because I believe encourages the committee worth investing which I've here before. And I the buckets that the that revenue would have gone in generally at least some hopeful that, you know, we're not going to get on this year's ballot hopeful that we can reconsider for next year's ballot. But, you know, I think that. Invest our communities on overdue. We can't pin and, you know, we can't depend on the sea we need to invest in housing. When you invest in childcare. you know, it's going to take I don't recall specifically a couple years if such measures pasta actually get the suspect's implemented and then for us actually see the gains from those revenues to build new housing or to invest housing or the stand-up childcare is gonna take additional time. So I think trying to invest in ourselves as soon as possible. I would be ideal some hoping that we use this extra time continue to educate the community we can't, you know, have a cake and eat it, too. There's no free lunches. I think best in ourselves and address revenue. So I appreciate the efforts remember, Ali, a member and a hands-on to try to educate the community on the budget and fiscal situation. More broadly and hope. And I appreciate that. The mayor's office says worked on this and hope that we can continue the discussion the next I guess year and kind of try to get enough support get some revenue past your sense that we invest in ourselves. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else was Please come forward. All right. We'll move on to last part of our agenda, which is member comments. We'll start with Mister Myers. >> No additional week no comments. Thank you to our tennis. No additional comments. Thank you spot. Monday. >> Welcome to 2026. Everybody. Mr. Johnson, no comment. The >> Thank you, Mister Chair. I will say thank you for a great meeting to my colleagues with some robust debate. I also just state for the record that I look forward with great anticipation to all of the radically pro housing title. 21 changes that G Boss initiate, thank you, Mister Chair. >> Nothing to report. Thank you, Mr. And I think not no comment. Thank you notice for comments later, Mr. President have a good night, everyone. And I'll just say thank everybody. Want an interesting night. Stand in adjournment. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪