White Bear Township Board Meeting 1-6-2025

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All right, we will call the January 6, 2025 town board meeting to order. Uh, first item, I believe we are going to do some swearing in of our new board supervisor and our old board supervisor. Join me out here. Oh. I got to I got to come over. Yeah. Yeah. You got to get out in front of the camera. Yep. I got to take pictures. So, I got to remember my right from my left and all that stuff, too. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. All right. We ready? Sure. Um, repeat after me. Okay. I, Beth Arnner, I, Beth Arer, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution I I will swear to support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Minnesota. of the United States and the state of Minnesota and faithfully discharge the duties and faithfully discharge the duties of the town supervisor of the town supervisor of the town of White Bear of the town of White Bear in the county of Ramsey in the county of Ramsey the state of Minnesota the state of Minnesota the best of my judgment and ability so help me God the best of my ability and judgment so help me God of the pageantry Oh thank you thank you want to sign mine oh I would have to Ed, your turn. Well, excellent. Good job, Steve. Please put up your right hand and sir. I, Ed Prudon, I Ed Prudon, do solemnly swearly swear that I will support the Constitution. The United States United States of the state of Minnesota and of the state of Minnesota faithfully discharge the duties discharge the duty the town board supervisor board supervisor of the town of white pair town of white county of Ramsey and state of Minnesota county best of my judgment and abilment four years always says that I did. Most important. It's official. Jake, I got more than that. Good job. Beautiful. Thanks, folks. Congratulations. You ran a heck of a campaign. I kind of did. All right. So then we can move on. Yes. All right. I need a motion to approve the agenda if there's no changes, deletions, additions. So moved. Second. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. All right. I need a motion to approve payment of the bills. So move. Payment of the bills as I've signed off on those. I moved it. Yeah. Oh, you want me to second it? Yep. Sure. Okay. Second. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. That's cuz he's got to sign off after I do. So, okay. No props. I'll get the hang of this. No biggie. All right. Uh, confidence you will. Item four is approval of prior meeting minutes. This is from December 16th, 2024. Those Beth, you'll probably have to obtain. You have to abstain. Yeah. So, Mr. Chair, I read through those meetings. I did not see any additions or deletions. I move to approve the minutes of the December 16th, 2024 meeting. I'll second that motion. All in favor say I. I. I. That would be an abstain. I know. Sorry. I'm so used to it. Sorry. All right. Uh, we have a consent agenda, but I think though this is the only thing on the agenda, we might want to scroll through these to make sure we're comfortable with everything. So, Mr. Chair, what I would suggest is the board pull consent items A through L, I'm sorry, A through J uh for some discussion on each one. and we can go through each one and if there is additional information or motions needed for those those items we can do so um let's pull M2 M okay I got to get to the beginning here so I would start at the top or no I would motion to approve the remaining items N and O and then we can go through the rest of these okay N is as in Nancy. Well, hang on. Doesn't What about K and O cuz we stopped at J. Correct. No, Steve said through M. No. Uh I'm okay with K and L N O. I want to pull M as a Mary. So then let's motion to approve K L N as in Nancy and O. Do you want me to make the motion to approve? Okay. I'll make a motion to approve K L N O. I'll second that. All right. All in favor say I. I. I. All right. So, uh, 6A, our town appointments are pretty straightforward. Is there any discussion needed with those? I I don't believe so. Um, so, Mr. Attorney, should we wait to motion to approve the rest of the consent agenda after we've gone through each one of the full list or after each one individually? Either way is acceptable. Okay. I say we do it. Actually, let's do each one of them at a time. It'll be Well, we won't forget. Yeah, we won't forget. I'll move to approve consent agenda, which was the consent agenda 5 a 6A, the 2025 organizational town board appointments. I'll second. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. All right. 6B is the uh township officials. Yep. Um is there any discussion with those? Uh, not for me. Is the fire marshal assistant John Waylander? Is that Josh? I'm just thinking that uh who is who's the fire chief? That's how come that's not on there. Do we have to appoint the fire marshal? I don't think we do, do we? Well, fire marshal you do, but he is the assistant fire chief, I assume, for White Bear. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, as long as this fire marshall. Okay. Okay. All right. Board. Happy with that? I'm happy with that. Move to approve B on the consent agenda removed to 2025 organizational township officials. Thank you. Um second. All favor say I. I. So this is for 6C. This is the one that I just put. We I just had Riley put what we thought were at least appropriate to begin with. We are not married to any of these. If you want to switch these around, feel free. Well, I just needed to make a note that you have board leaison myself, but that should be for the EDAB. The AB. Yes. Okay. And Supervisor Beth mentioned that we had one time had a that would be under D, a representative coming up. Yeah, we've got a planning commission representative um on the economic advisory board. Oh, we haven't had one since I've been here. You have? I've been in Yeah, you Oh, you haven't been going. I have. Not all time, but you know, only only I only missed one meeting. I didn't know you were on there as a planning commission. Sean from commission either. I'm a leaz from PL. Okay. All right. We'll we'll clear that up when we get to it then. Okay. All right. Were you guys comfortable with your assignments? I am comfortable with my assignments for the park board and planning commission. I guess I can work with it. I got a couple questions about something, but okay, I'm good. You want me to make a motion to approve or would you like to speak? Go ahead. You can. I'll make a motion to approve uh was it agenda 6C 2025 organizational advisory commission liaison. I'll second that motion. Motion made a second. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. All right. And the next one is the representatives. Yes, Mr. Chair, we did again there the one, two, three spots vacant for discussion as to who would like to cover each one of those. Um Scott was doing NYFS Purple Line and I guess he was filling he must have been fulfilling or organization board of directors alternate or the Vadness legs. Um, so however you guys want to share those responsibilities, feel free, let me know. Um, I I'd like to remove the Minnesota Association of Townships and the al alternate since we are no longer members of that organization. Okay. And I don't think we're going to be joining again in 2025. No. Um, as far as the organizational board of directors in the alternate, um, I I would I' I've filled in on that or that board before. I don't mind doing it. It's up to Beth, do you got an I don't even know what it is. So, you're going to have to give me That's Madness Lake Area Water Management Organization. Yes. Oh, I thought that was you, Ed. I am, but we need an alternate alternate. So, I'll I'll be the I'll put my name down. Steve will do it. Okay. because I also sit on the subcommittee for that. So, you guys can wrestle over that later. No, no, she [Music] um so the rest of them down to the next vacant. Is everybody okay with uh what is it? The Northeast Youth and Family Service. Purple Line. Purple Line. Purple Line. Who wants to do Purple Line? They don't love me on Purple Line. Maybe you should go. Okay. All right, I'll go. Those meetings are far and few between, aren't they? Yeah, there's not a lot of them, though. Okay, so Beth is on that one, I guess. So, okay. And then NYFS, that was one that Scott was very involved in. I don't know a lot about it to be honest with you. I mean, I'm willing to give anything a try. Would you love to do that? I know. Again, that one is just kind of hit and miss. They don't really have Was Scott going to all their meetings? No, I don't think so. No, I I think what they only attending one a year when they did their uh No, I think he was going more than that, but the big one you're talking about, he always went to I think they had quarterly. Yeah, they asked for a representative from the uh communities they service, I believe. And Scott was our representative. So, didn't he actually cut some of their funds? No, I just wrote the check today. We didn't cut any funds. Well, I thought that he'd actually cut them back a little, but okay. I think uh Scott's major contribution was getting their finances in line. I don't know if that meant they were cutting anything or not, but I know that he was pretty involved on um cash flow with them only because I think they had some turnovers and there was some confusion about Yeah. Well, I thought he had him redo the split because it split amongst some of the PL what like Vadness Heights and White Bar and us and I'm not sure who else it is, but I thought um I read something about he actually redid the figures and actually cut back our portion because we were paying more than our share. I thought I could be wrong. Well, you can investigate that. No, no, I remember reading in the paper. Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh, boy. The press. Should I not? Yeah. Is that like you go ahead. So, so Patrick, have have you confirmed with uh Ramsey with Ron or Luke that they both want to be on the cable commission? I know Ron does want to be on Yep, he does. How about Luke? Does any I don't know about Luke. It's Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I tell you what. I think what you should do is appoint him or subsequent to my or follow up with him. See if he does still want to do it. And if he doesn't, I'll bring it to the next meeting. We can do something there. I' I'd go with that. Okay. Tell you what, Beth, if you want to sit on it and if you can't make it, I'll I'll be your ultimate. How's that? What on the cable commission? No. No. The Youth Family Services. Okay, I'll do it. Yeah, if you want. Okay, that would be all right. I'll share it with you. I love that. Okay. Okay. 6E. Wait, we didn't we didn't vote to approve it. Oh, sorry. Okay. Then do you want to do something about the planning commission lei lees? You want to put that under this under 6D? No, I think we got a spot for it, don't we? I threw it under 60. I, you know, I just didn't know where it fell. You know, I'm new here. You know, that only goes for so long. Just saying. Well, I guess the question I have is I think I'd like to come back to that what she just said only because I don't know if that's in the bio in the position of the planning commission. I was looking at that the other day. I don't think it's written in there that a member of the planning commission has to be on the EDAB. EDAB, but we should look into that and make the appointment after this meeting. Beth, can we do that? Yeah, it's just fine. I'm just, you know, trying to keep continuity. I got you. Yeah, I just don't I remember you were on it. I just don't remember why you were on it because we pushed Bill off. There you go. Or EDAB confirming planning commission liaison. If it helps, uh, Bill Bill Patrick had done it for the longest time. if you want to go way back there. Okay. Because I took it from him. All right. So, I need a motion for consent to item 6D. Correct. I'll move to on the consented item 6D, 2025, organizational representatives to organizations. I'll second. I'll second it. Motion's made in second. All in favor say I. I. I. All right. Now, move on to E. 6E. This is professional services. I'm going to ask a question. Under the town attorney, Chad, it still says Patrick Kelly. I was about to bring that up. Okay. Is it just Lemons? No, it should be Martin Norder. N O R D E R. Martin. Mhm. Oh, for Pat. For Patrick. A N O R R. Yeah. M A R T I N. Martin Norder. Okay. See, these organizational meetings are relevant. Okay. Anything else under 6E? Uh, I didn't know we had a town prosecutor. Yes, we do. Yes. Yeah. Your your township legal representation is split. I do the civil and uh Bel Beckman handles the prosecution. Who knew? Had to work with them a lot two years ago. All right. I don't see anything else. Nope. I know. I got a question. Are Jim and Larry our employees says tell or are they TKD? TKDA's employee. They both are. Yep. Yes. Okay. I didn't know that. All right. I'm fine with it. I guess I got no another questions. I need a motion to approve. Before we do that, I have a question. Have you have we been in contact with these specialists such as the veterinarian, the arborist, and they all want to renew? Did you get confirmation that they're all they're all good? Okay. Okay. Then I'll I'll move to approve item 6E 2025, organizational professional service appointments with the changes noted for the town attorney. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. All right. Then we're on to locked up here. Rules of order 6F. Um Oh, see you got the details. I don't even have that. What the what the Probably could have left that one in there, but oh well. Yeah, that's kind of a given, isn't it? Yep. But let's do it. How old are those rules? Pat, Chad, Robert's rules of order. Yeah, really old. 200 years old, maybe older. I was thinking the 1700s, but I'm not sure. Yeah. All right. I need a motion on 6F. Move to approve 6F. Robert's rules of orders. Orders. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. All right. That one motion carries. Uh 6G is our posting places. Yep. Those have been consistent as as long as I've been here and before that even. So that puts us in compliance when we need to do that. Move to approve items 6G, official posting places. Second. All in favor? I. All right. 6H is the official newspaper. Is that where we want to stay? I'm surprised we don't have a representative. It's usually of the year. Yeah. This is when he likes to come and get his business cards out. All righty. Well, they sent me one in the mail. All right. Um, I'll make a motion to approve the official newspaper. I'll second that. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. All right. Then we have meeting dates. Yep. Those are the meeting dates that we've been following for ever. Do we do summer hours or anything? No. No. Okay. Just asking. I'll move to approve item 6 I established meeting dates. A second. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. All right. Consent agenda 6J. This the advisory board commission members service providers. This This is where I'd like to take a minute to thank all our advisory commission members between planning commission, park board, utility commission, safety commission, and the EDAB. These are all folks that are residents of the town that volunteer their time to sit on these commissions. And it it it helps the board tremendously because they spend a lot more time going over some items that we just don't have that luxury to do. And it we we hold their recommendations standards quite highly. They they carry a lot of weight and those are like I said those are residents of the town. So they kind of got the pulse of what's going on on the town. True. All right. Want to make a motion to approve the advisory boards, commission members, and service providers. Is that a motion? I am. Have a second. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. Did you want me to say six? J. I'll do that next time. All righty. All right. Now, we have the regular town board meetings. I think Steve wanted to pull. The only reason I'm asking about M is why are we why are we designating the Friday? Is that because it's an optional holiday that we want to designate because we do the day before Christmas and New Year's Eve. We substituted this one for Columbus Day. Got it. Okay. So, I'll I have no other questions on that. So I can move to approve item 6M. Does L get left in the dirt? K and L. Yeah, we we weren't going to pull that one. We weren't going to pull that one. Okay. All right. So it's uh M. Yep. Okay. I'll second that motion. All right. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. All right. Then we have This thing's working really slow. Okay. Liquor license. 6N. No, you approve that. You approved that. Yes, we Yes, we did. So, we want 60. We did that one also, too. Dang it. I missed it, too. We did that before we started. Oh, I thought we were just discussing. Oh, I gotcha. Never mind. Don't worry. Chad and I are here. So, now where are we at? Old business. Old business. Yep. I can't even get mine to open up. So, there you go. Uh, let me uh go back to my agenda. All right, I think I covered all my notes for that. All right, item seven is old business. We have none. Item eight is public hearings. We have none. Item nine is new business. We have none. And open time, we have a full house. I guess we're not going to have any open time. Item 12, I need a motion to receive agenda materials and supplements. So moved. Second. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. And then I need a motion to adjourn at 7:22. So moved. Second. Thank you. All in favor say I. I. I. That's that. That's that. We're done. And we've had like