October 12, 2023 Bloomington Planning Commission Meeting
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EXTENT TO WHICH THE SCOPE FOR THE PROPOSED CRITERIA IS IT CONSIDERED A MISCELLANEOUS ISSUE BASICALLY? SO DOES IT REQUIRE ITS OWN PUBLIC HEARING? IF IF IT DID THEN IT WOULD NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OF A MISCELLANEOUS ISSUE OR WAS IT URGENT TO THE POINT WHERE IT COULDN'T WAIT TILL THE END OF THE YEAR TO BE BUNDLED WITH THE REST? IN THAT CASE IT WASN'T A GOOD FIT FOR THE MISCELLANEOUS ISSUE SO THAT HELPED US TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED SOME DATA GATHERING. WE RANKED EACH OF THE PROJECT ON DIFFICULTY OR COMPLEXITY AND URGENCY AND IMPACT. THESE THINGS DID NOT. THEY DID NOT ADD TO THE PRIORITIZATION BUT THEY CERTAINLY COULD SERVE THAT PURPOSE IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE 500 MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES PROPOSALS. SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS YEAR WE HAD 18 WHICH IS A FEASIBLE NUMBER THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MANY OR IT'S TYPICAL OF MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES TO HAVE LIKE THAT MANY SO. SO THEN THIS SO THIS GAVE US SOME DATA AND IT HELPED ALSO TO UNDERSTAND ESPECIALLY THE CRITERIA OF IMPACT TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE ISSUES REQUIRED A RAPID RACIAL EQUITY IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND SO I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ANY OF THE MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES THAT SCORED ABOVE A THREE. SO THE SCALE WAS 1 TO 5 IF IT SCORED ABOVE A THREE FOR IMPACT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THAT I START THAT DIDN'T DENOTES THAT THE ISSUE MAY HAVE AN ELEVATED LEVEL OF IMPACT. WE WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE THE ISSUES AND BASED ON THE GUIDELINES THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO US BY THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING, WE AT FIRST GLANCE IT IT'S HARD TO TELL BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT STOOD OUT AS NEEDING THE RAPID RACIAL EQUITY ANALYSIS. OF COURSE WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT ALL R IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IS IS CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. BUT THE I WILL LET YOU KNOW IN CASE YOU SEE SOMETHING TONIGHT THAT MIGHT REQUIRE FURTHER INQUIRY. OKAY. SO LET'S GET STARTED. SO THIS IS OUR TIMELINE. SO WE ARE HERE IN OCTOBER THE LEGAL REVIEW ON ALL THE ORDINANCE DOCUMENTS IS HAPPENING. THE FIRST GLANCE AND THEN THE STUDY ITEM AND THEN I WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH IN ORDER TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THIS WILL THEN GO TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE YEAR . SO THESE ARE THE APPLICANTS THIS IS YOUR CLASS OF 2023. JUST IN SUMMARY, THE THE TOPICS THAT ARE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THOSE ARE THE CLEANUP ITEMS THOSE ARE A WORD CHANGE OR A REFERENCE LINK AND THEN THE ITEMS J THROUGH R AND THOSE ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THECREE THOSE ARE THE THE THE THINGS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAN A QUICK CLEAN UP ITEM. SO WE'LL JUST GET RIGHT INTO IT ALL. I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH EACH OF THE PROPOSED SO. OOPS SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO THERE'S A BLANK SUBSECTION THAT EXISTS BECAUSE THERE WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN SUB POINT ONE AND SUB POINT A WERE ON THE SAME LINE AND SO THAT CREATED A BLANK WHICH IS NOT IN THE GRACE FORM. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SCOOCH THINGS UP RENUMBERED THEM SO THAT THAT BLANK DOES NOT EXIST IN OUR CITY CODE . ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE TYPE TWO HOME BUSINESS. IN PAST YEARS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL IS IS ACTUALLY YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKER ON THAT. IT'S NO LONGER CITY COUNCIL SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THE CITY CODE TO REFLECT THE LANGUAGE TO TO MATCH THE OTHER PART OF CITY CODE TO REFLECT THE CHANGES. OUR REVISED SITE WIDTH DIAGRAM YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS ONE FROM LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T QUITE GET IT RIGHT. THERE WAS A TECHNICAL THAT THE LINES SHOULD ACTUALLY BE STRAIGHT ACROSS AND NOT CURVILINEAR AND SO WE NEED TO UPDATE IT AGAIN TO RECORD THAT CHANGE. THERE'S AN INCORRECT REFERENCE ON R'S ONE AND R1A FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING STANDARDS. WE ARE JUST GOING TO UPDATE THAT TO MATCH THE CORRECT SECTION IN CODE TO MATCH THAT FOR ITEM E WE HAVE TWO FAMILY DWELLING SIDE SETBACKS. THEY WE FOR THE PURPOSES OF CLARITY WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER OR MORE INTUITIVE FOR A PERSON WHO'S LOOKING AT THIS TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE HEIGHTENED STANDARDS ARE IN EFFECT. AND SO THE HOPE WITH THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE IS TO PUT THE HEIGHT BELOW THE TABLE JUST TO SO THAT IS MORE CLEAR AND KNOWN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THE CODE , THE PERIMETER FENCING A DRIVE THRU STANDARDS. RIGHT NOW IT IS THE EXCEPTION FENCES FOR SCREENING ALL FENCES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN IT LISTS OUR ACTUAL DRIVE THRU FACILITIES SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT CODE SECTION TO ACTUALLY MATCH THE FENCE STANDARDS. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A LINK UPDATE. OKAY. OUR APPLICATION PROCESSES AND FEES FOR AN RV PERMIT THE RV PERMIT NO LONGER EXISTS. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THIS TABLE AND THE TABLE IN THE APPENDIX. SO OKAY WHEN WE WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR AND UPDATED ALL OF THE FEES TO APPENDIX A WE MISSED ONE. SO THIS ORDINANCE IS TO UPDATE THE THE HEADER. I WOULD I WOULD DESCRIBE THAT AS A HEADER AS PART OF SUBSECTION C TO POINT THE READER TO THE APPENDIX A FOR INFORMATION ON FEES TEMPORARY VARIANCE THIS ONE COMES FROM THE STATE STATUTE UPDATE AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME SPECIFICALLY BUT THE BASICALLY TEMPORARY BORINGS LIKE WAS MOVED TO A SUBSET OCEAN AND IS NOW A DIFFERENT TERM AND SO THE SUBSECTION BECAUSE IT WAS REPEALED IT CAN EXIST IN OUR CITY CODE EFFECTIVELY SO WE ARE LIT IN COLLABORATION WITH LYNN MOUA AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WE ARE REMOVING THE REFERENCE OF TEMPORARY BORINGS TO MATCH STATE STATUTE. THE STATE STATUTE UPDATE. SO THIS WOULD BE REMOVED IN CHAPTER 15 AND THEN IN APPENDIX A ACCESSORY REAR SETBACK IS CURRENTLY AT 30 FEET BUT FOR OTHER USES AT THIS IS TEN FEET. SO STAFF CONSIDER THIS AND FELT THAT TEN FEET WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT DID ELEVATE FOR IMPACT AND THAT THERE MAY BE SOME IMPACT OR IT MIGHT HAPPEN REGULARLY ENOUGH THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTHY OF AN ANALYSIS OF THAT. OUR FARMERS MARKET WE HAVE FARMER'S MARKET LISTED AS A USE ON OUR USE TABLE BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF THAT USE IN THE IN CHAPTER 1903. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DEFINITION TO MATCH THE DEFINITION THAT I BELIEVE IS IT CURRENTLY IN USE IN CHAPTER 14? OKAY. SO THIS ONE APPLICATION FORM THIS THIS THE THE IDEA BEHIND THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT WE IT IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO GET APPLICATION FORMS THAT ARE SIGNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER JUST TO HAVE THE ACTUAL FORM. SO STRICT ADHERENCE TO THIS DOES CAUSE DELAYS BUT ANOTHER FORM OF OWNER WRITTEN APPROVAL FOR EXAMPLE A LETTER WE FEEL WOULD SUFFICE FOR THAT. SO THE INTENT WITH THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE SO THAT ANOTHER FORM OF OWNER WRITTEN APPROVAL WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION PROCESS. NON-CONFORMITY TRIGGERS FOR A NON-CONFORMING SITE CHARACTERISTICS THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS SCORED ON AVERAGE ABOVE A THREE ON OUR RUBRIC OF IMPACT AND THE THE IDEA BEHIND THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THAT THE US TRADITIONAY WVE ALWAYS OUGHT THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF A SITE OF THE FLOOR AREA SPACE OF 25% OR GREATER WAS ALWAYS THOUGHT TO BE TO BE CUMULATIVE BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IN CODE. SO THE IDEA FOR THE ORDINANCE OR OUR SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE IS TO EXPLICITLY SAY THAT IT'S CUMULATIVE AND THAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE AT THE TIME THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD PASS TO SAY SAYING EFFECTIVELY LIKE THIS WOULD BE THIS STARTS ON DECEMBER 28TH OR WHENEVER IT IS PUBLISHED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. OKAY. THE 80 NEW LOCATION SO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE NOT ALLOWED BETWEEN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND AND THE STREET BUT ARE ADU LOCATION WHICH IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES NOT SEE THAT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE FOR OUR 80 LOCATIONS SO THAT THEY WOULD MATCH THE SAME AS ANY OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DISPLAYS OF MERCHANDISE DEFINITION. SO THIS RELATES TO LIKE THE LIKE DONATION BINS OR THEY'RE THEY'RE GENERALLY LIKE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE WHERE PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF DONATED CLOTHING OR A U.P.S. DROP BOX. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE SOME STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE DO NOT IMPEDE MOTOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND THAT WE HAVE SPACES FOR THAT. SO AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE WE ARE JUST GOING TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION SO THAT THE EXTERIOR STORAGE IT ISN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING FOR SALE THAT WAS KIND OF THE ISSUE THAT WAS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IN THIS PROCESS . FENCE STANDARDS FRONT AND SIDE YARD THIS IS AN UPDATE THAT HAS A HIGHER IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE THIS CHANGE CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY TWO FAMILY STANDARDS CHANGED AND SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T NOTICE UNTIL AFTER IT PASSED AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE PREVAILING SETBACK THE FENCE STANDARDS AND FRONT END SIDE YARD MEANT THAT YOU COULD IN SOME CASES BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND YOUR FRONT YARD . SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING THIS STANDARD BACK INTO ALIGNMENT HAVING PASSED THE UPDATES TO THE SINGLE FAMILY TWO FAMILY STDARD AND AND SO THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA THAT ALLOW FOR THE FENCE STANDARDS AND FRONT YARDS SETBACK IN AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN AUTO REPAIR THE DEFINITION OF AUTO REPAIR IS GENERALLY WE'VE CONSIDERED IT TO BE INDOORS OR INSIDE A BUILDING BUT THE DEFINITION OF OUR VECLEEPAIR MAJOR A OUR VEHICLE REPAIR MINOR DOES NOT EXPLICITLY SAY THAT. SO TO MAKE IT EXPLICIT SO THAT THAT WE CAN ADHERE TO THAT THAT STANDARD AND THEN OUR WINDOW COVERING REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT H X ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE FOR OTHER DISTRICTS. SO THE IDEAS TO UPDATE OUR WINDOW COVERING REQUIREMENTS SO THAT IT MATCHES THE OTHER DISTRICTS AND I THINK THE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE DIFFERENT IS THE PERCENTAGE CALCULATIONS TOTAL VERSUS PER WINDOW AND IT'S JUST NOT CONSISTENT. SO THE CHANGE WOULD BE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES CONSISTENT AND SO THERE'S NO FORMAL ACTION REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. BUT WE'RE MORE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM YOU SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO REVISE OR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT STANDS OUT TO YOU THAT MIGHT REQUIRE AAPIDACIAL EQUITYMPACT. ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS GOOD FOR US TO KNOW. SO THAT'S THE THE PURPOSE FOR MY BEING HERE TONIGHT AND MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. NICELY DONE. ARE THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS IN THIS LIST THAT FOLKS HAVE FEEDBACK ON? COMMISSIONER GOLDSON THANK YOU CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM E. OKAY. IS SO WHEN I READ THROUGH SO I'M JUST READING HERE NOW. OKAYORRY I MISREAD. I GUESS MY QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN, I BELIEVE IT'S ITEM L. OKAY. SEE AND WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE APPLICANT. YES. COULD THAT BE MORE THAN A WRITTEN APPROVAL LIKE EMAIL? IS THAT CONSIDERED WRITTEN APPROVAL? I BELIEVE AN EMAIL IS A FORM I'M GOINGO CONFER WITH PLANNING MANAGER MARKEGARD BY I BELIEVE THAT DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE OF WRITTEN APPROVAL. YEAH. CHAIRWOMAN COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN. THAT'S CORRECT. WE COULD TAKE AN EMAIL. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT WE OTHERWISE DEFINE FORMS OF WRITTEN APPROVAL? NOT NECESSARILY HERE BUT IN THE CODE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT'S A QUESTION MANY PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE AND IF NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ANSWER YOU GAVE IT IS THERE IF THERE'S A PLACE WEAN POINT TO WHAT THE CITY ACCEPTS AS WRITTEN APPROVAL AND AGAIN IT MIGHT NOT BE HERE IT MAY JUST BE IN SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CODE THAT SAYS THE FOLLOWING ARE ACCEPTED TYPES OF WRITTEN APPROVAL FOR THE PURPOSES OF CITY BUSINESS. YEAH JUST A SUGGESTION AND JEROME AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE CAN KIND OF REVIEW THAT WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF THAT EXISTS OR IF WE CAN ADD THAT TO COMMISSIONER COX IN ORDER TO GET TO CERTAIN THOSE 2024 MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES. MR. CHAIR IS A STUDY WE HAVE NO WE HAVE STILL TIME TO ADD IT THIS YEAR ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T GET IT IN THE THE ONE INTAKE OH WE'D HAVE TO SCHEDULE AN EMERGENCY PEER REVIEW BY. QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO IT THE ITEM ABOUT THE BOXES UPFRONT DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE LITERATURE BOXES NEWSPAPER BOXES THOSE TYPES OF BOXES? OH THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT MY NOTES . I DON'T TYPICALLY SEE THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING SO I'M NOT. OH YEAH, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT'S 2023. WE DON'T SEE AS MANY AS WE ONCE DID BUT YOU KNOW THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER OR THE THE VISITORS GUIDE THAT YOU DON'T YOU OPEN THE LITTLE THING AND TAKE ONE OF THOSE AND WOULD THOSE BE INTENDED TO BE COVERED BY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I SHIREMAN I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT WHEN THIS THIS PARTICULAR POLICY WAS WRITTEN. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT WHAT SHOULD BE TUCKED IN THERE. IT THE SO AS TO I HAD I DIDN'T WRITE SOMETHING DOWN THE LAST ITEM WAS SORRY. WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS THE ONE IT WAS THE AUTO REPAIR INDOORS . WHAT ABOUT DOES THAT THERE'S IF WE SPECIFY THAT WHICH I THINK IT MAKES SENSE WHAT ABOUT LIKE A DENT REPAIR KIND OF A BUSINESS THAT DOES MINOR STUFF AND MAYBE THEY'RE BUSY AND YOU PULL UP THEIR PARKING LOT AND THEY COME OUT FOR 5 MINUTES AND POP A DENT OUT AND THE BUSINESSES EVERYONE'S HAPPY. WOULD THAT BE PROHIBITED BY THIS LANGUAGE CHANGE POTENTIALLY? I WOULD I WILL JEROME AND I WILL ONCE AGAIN DEFER TO PLANNING MANAGER MARKEGARD. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BASED ON THE WORD OF LETTER OF THE CODE YES IT WOULD BE PROHIBITED WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE REPORTED OR WHETHER OR NOT SMALL INSTANCES LIKE THATOULD WOULD WOULD WARRANT YOU KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COMING OUT AND CITING THAT I I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE OF THE GERMAN COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE LOOKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE ON IS THAT AN EXCEPTION WE SHOULD ADD FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE SEEN SAY AFTER MAJOR HAILSTORMS FOR EXAMPLE THAT COMPANIES WILL SET UP TENTS AND CAN EFFECTIVELY DO IT OUTDOORS. WE COULD ADD AN EXCEPTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF DESIRED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO PROHIBIT THAT FROM HAPPENING. MR. GOLDSON THANKS CHAIR. I ALSO THINK ABOUT WINDSHIELD REPAIR THAT HAPPENS OUT MY CLIMATE IN THE PARKING LOT AND I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE AS IT'S CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING HAVE THAT WORK DONE ON THEIR CAR WHILE THEY'RE NOT USING IT ESPECIALLY WAKE UP AND GO AHEAD FEEDING OFF OF YOURS. UNFORTUNATELY I HAVING MY WINDSHIELD REPOSSESSED TOMORROW AND THEY DID STATE THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN OUTDOORS. HOWEVER IF IT WAS RAINING IT WOULD BE INDOORS. SO IT'S DEFINITELY AN OUTDOOR ACTIVITY. SO THE QUESTION OTHER ITEMS SPECIFIC OR GENERAL FEEDBACK ISSUE COOKTOWN THAT'S I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY TO WRITE IT TO HAVE LIKE EXCEPTIONS CARVED OUT FOR WHAT COULD BE DONE OUTDOORS I THEY KIND OF LEAN TOWARDS JUST LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT STUFF THAT'S NOT BOTHERSOME AND SO I THINK I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE JUST LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS THAT WAY WE HAVE THE LEVERAGE. OKAY SO WE JUST SET UP THE CIRCUS TENT IS DOING THROW KEYS IN THERE. WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY THEN TO GO IN AND SAY OKAY WE C'T DO THIS BUT IF SOMETHING IS JUST POPPING A DENT OUT NOBODY'S GOING TO COMPLAIN. SO I THINK I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO SAY OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW HAIL DAMAGE AND WINDSHIELDS AND SCRATCHES NO GREATER THAN THREE INCHES. I THINK THEY WOULD GET VERY TRICKY TO POLICE THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I JUST ALSO DON'T WANT US TO ACCIDENTALLY PROHIBIT SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T INTEND TO PROHIBIT. THAT'S THAT'S MY MAIN THING. COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU CHAIR I'M JUST READING THIS MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR AND I AM NOT SEEING WINDSHIELDS UNLESS I AM CRAZY. WINDOW TINTING THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. WINDOW TINTING SO MAYBE JUST LEAVING THAT OFF DENT REPAIR ISN'T IN THERE EITHER. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST THINKING MAYBE IF WE LEAVE OFF DENT REPAIR AND THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO INSTANCES I THINK WHERE WE WOULD BE OH THAT'S MAJOR PAIN OH DENVER REPAIR HIT LIST AND REPAIR IS CONSIDERED MAJOR ANYWAYS AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU NEED TO SOLVE TODAY IT'S JUST AGAIN I JUST DON'T WANT US TO ACCIDENTALLY PROHIBIT SOMETHING. YEAH, AND I. I TOTALLY AGREE. I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOTTING OUR I'S AND CROSSING T'S. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOKED IN ABOUT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THIS RISES TO MAKING IT EXPLICIT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WANT PEOPLE JUST TO SET UP BUSINESSES WHO ARE DOING THIS EXCLUSIVELY. YEP. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN, I MANAGED TO GET RV IN FRONT OF US ONE MORE TIME AND SIX. COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN, CAN WE JUST SEE THE TOTAL LIST AGAIN? YEAH, WHICH IS HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE . RIGHT. SO YOU GET WHAT YOU NEEDED FROM US. MM HMM. YES. THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK. WONDERFUL. NICE WORK. ALL RIGHT. ITEM FIVE IS PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND WE WILL START WITH THE PLANNING MANAGER. YES, TRUMAN COMMISSIONERS NEXT MEETING WILL BE NOVEMBER SECOND. PRETTY FULL AGENDA WE HAVE THE TWO ITEMS CONTINUED THIS EVENING SO THE KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON STADIUMS WE HAVE A PRIVATELY INITIATED CITY CODE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD DAYCARES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE C FOR ZONING DISTRICT THERE CURRENTLY A LIMITED USE WE HAVE A SIGNED ORDINANCE STUDY ITEM CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THAT IS PUBLICLY INITIATED TO ADD PAWNSHOPS IN THE B4 ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S A SPINOFF FROM THE REZONINGS THAT USE ARE RECENTLY ON LYNDALE. WE HAVE A STUDY DISCUSSION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT'S A DRAFT PLAN AND THEN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ACTION PLAN. IT'S A PRETTY FULL AGENDA NOVEMBER 2ND, NOVEMBER 16TH WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS THE MISCLANES ISSUES ORDINANCE BACK AS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT 2024 TO 23 COMBINED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT'S OUR ANNUAL REVIEW FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN WE HAVE A PROPOSAL AS A REZONING PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A APPROXIMATELY HUNDRED AND 50 UNIT SENIOR BUILDING AT 700 AMERICAN BOULEVARD WEST THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE RBI STORE AND THEN THE APPLICATION THAT WAS WITHDRAWN THIS EVENING IS EXPECTED BACK IN 9200 OLD CEDAR THAT'S FOR A BUILDING EXPANSION AT THE BP GAS STATION. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP. GREAT. THANK YOU FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY LENGTHY MEETINGS IN A ILE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 2ND IF IF WE DECIDE IF THE MEETINGS ARE GETTING LONG, WE DECIDED TO TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO AND WE HAVE TO POST IN THE AGENDA THAT THERE MAY BE A BREAK AT THE CALL OF THE CHAIR. YEAH JEROME AND I THINK YOU CAN DO IT ON THE FLY. I JUST CALL FOR A FIVE MINUTE RECESS OR IT IS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN OPTION IF NOTHING WRONG WITH THE LONG AGENDA I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE CONSTRAINED. YEAH, I'M NOT PREGNANT ANYMORE BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD. COMMISSION APPVED THIS. ROGER DO WE HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT AN 11 P.M. START TIME OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT NOW WE DO. YEP. I'M JUST THINKING IF WE STARTED AT SIX AND IT GETS TO BE 9:00 AND WE WANT 10 MINUTES THE BIO BREAK OR WHATEVER IT WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE 11 P.M. START TIME THING? MR. PLANNING YEAH. JEROME AND COMMISSIONERS SECOND PULL OUT OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. I'M NOT POSITIVE THAT IS IN THERE. I KNOW IT'S IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S RULES BUT I THINK WE TOOK IT. EVERYBODY REMEMBERS IT. OKAY. I RECALL IT'S IN OUR DISCRETION TO KEEP GOING IF WE WANT TO CORRECT CORRECT. OKAY, I'LL TAKE A NAP. WELL, 10 MINUTES OTHER ITEMS FOR THIS TOPIC THE GENERAL ISSUES ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. AND UH, SEEING THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL NOVEMBER SEND COME WELL-FORTIFIED