. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I LIKE TO CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT AS MONDAY JANUARY NINTH, 2024. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE JOINING US HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING AT HOME. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO. YOU'RE ABLE TO PLEASE STAND, REMOVE YOUR CAPS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE THROUGH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME AND THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. COUNCIL OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO PROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND IT'S A BEEFY ONE TONIGHT. ITEM TWO OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED TO A NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES FROM THREE DIFFERENT BLOOMINGTON DEPARTMENTS AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH TONIGHT AND OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO HAS CONSENT AND WE HAVE 25 ITEMS ON CONSENT TONIGHT UNDER ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE TWO PUBLICLY HEARINGS AND TWO PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITIES. ITEM 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE FEASIBILITY REPORT AND ORDER PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND IN 4.2 IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND SO ON. ITEM 4.3 IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS ON OUR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AND ITEM 4.4 A SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS REGARDING A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT PENN LAKE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK UNDER OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESSES BUSINESS WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. ITEM 5.1 IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING OUR CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT GRANTS REVISION ITEM 5.2 IS CONVEYANCE OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT WE'LL BE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND I'M 5.3 SPEED LIMITS ON LARGER ROADWAYS AND IN 5.4 OUR 2024 LEGISLATIVE POLICIES FINE 5.5 THE OFFICIAL APPOINTMENT OF OUR NEW COUNCIL SECRETARY AND WRAP UP THIS EVENING AS WE ALWAYS DO I AM 5.6 WAS OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONS SUBTRACTIONS CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED HEARING NONE I WOULD MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS STATED NO COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO I'LL TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOTE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING. SHE IS OUT OF TOWN. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO IN OUR AGENDA OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS AND WE'LL START WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES. AS I SAID, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING FOLKS FROM THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ADMINISTRATION COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE MAYBE IT'S ONLY TWO DEPARTMENTS BUT WE HAVE CHRISTINA SCIPIONE, A CITY CLERK HERE AND I KNOW MIKE SABLE WILL BE INTRODUCING SOME FOLKS AND I'VE ALSO GOT CAROLYN HENDERSON ON THE LIST. VERY GOOD MISSISSIPPI ONLY GOOD EVENING WELCOME GOOD EVENING MARY AND COUNCIL I'M EXCITED BE HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE THREE NEW PART TIME LICENSING SPECIALISTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. THESE FOLKS ARE OUR FRIENDLY FACES FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS. THEY COME IN TO GET LICENSES AND PERTS AND FOR OUR PASSPORT CUSTOMERS WELL AND THEY'VE ALL STARTED TOWARD THE END OF DECEMBER AND. IT'S BEEN FABULOUS. THEY'RE GREAT ADDITIONS TO THE TEAM BRING LOT OF ENERGY, ENTHUSIASM AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD . SO TO START OFF I'LL INTRODUCE STEVE KALFUS STEVE JOINS US FROM THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY. HE ENJOYS SPORTS, MOVIES AND TRAVELING, SPEAKS FLUENT GREEK AND HE HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR AND BRINGS A LOT OF FUN TO OUR OFFICE. BUT YOU DIDN'T TELL ME TO SAY THAT I HAD TO ADD BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. NEXT WE HAVE LATONYA NOBLE. SHE'S A SEASONED EXECUTIVE WITH 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LEADING MINNESOTA PEOPLE OF COLOR LG TBE PRIDE ORGANIZATION SHE SHE'S DEDICATED TO PROMOTING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND SHE ALSO HAS A BACKGROUND IN MANAGEMENT ROLES WITH THE RETAIL AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRIES WHICH IS GREAT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LICENSE FOLKS YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, RIGHT? AND THEN WE HAVE AN EAGLE WHO HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ALREADY SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. SHE HAS WORKED WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM FOR 17 YEARS AND WE'RE EXCED TO HAVE NOW ON THE CITY SIDE OF GOVERNMENT AND AN AND TOLD THAT TOLD ME REALLY ENJOYING HER NEW POSITION AND MOSTLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SO NICE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON SO I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT AND HAVE MORE TO SPEAK BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SAY WELCOME AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. WELL, GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING FOR TAKING THE TIME AND WELCOME ABOARD. THE FIRST FEW WEEKS HERE HAVE BEEN GOOD WHEN THANKS FOR BRINGING THE GOOD WEATHER WITH YOU WE'LL GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT MAKE IT WORTHWHILE BUT I APPRECIATE IT APPRECIATE BEING THE FACE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A FRONT FACING THREESOME AND YOU'LL BE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY QUITE A BIT. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU'RE HERE AROUND CITY HALL SO WELCOME ABOARD AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE MR. SABLE THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS MIKE SABLE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND IT'S MY PLEASURE INTRODUCE I'VE GOT THREE NEW HIRES IN THE ADMIN DEPARTMENT AND H.R I'M GOING TO START WITH STEFON MERCER WHO WE MAYBE HAVE ALREADY MET OR WE'LL CERTAINLY MEET LATER TODAY SHE'S A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA WITH A DEGREE IN SOCIOLOGY AND CRIMINAL IN CRIMINOLOGY AND DEVIANCE. SHE'S WORKED IN BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTORS IN MANY CAPACITIES RANGING FROM PROBATION OFFICER, GUARDIAN AD LITEM AND LATER AS A SENIOR COURT CLERK FOR THE MINNESOTA JUDICIAL BRANCH IN DAKOTA COUNTY. FOR EIGHT YEARS SHE LEFT THE COUNTY TO WORK FOR A PRIVATE SECTOR POSITION IN LITIGATION PARALEGAL AND FAMILY LAW PRACTICE AND LATER RECRUITED BY KENNEDY AND GRALEN WHO WAS A VERY COMMON CUSTOMER FOR US AND AS A MUNICIPAL AND CIVIL LITIGATION PARALEGAL OUTSIDE OF WORK SHE GOLFING, BIKE RIDING AND ENTERTAINING FRIENDS AND FAMILY SO WHEN INTRODUCED TO FARMERS. HI NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. WELCOME ABOARD. WELCOME ABOARD. WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN LATER. SO THANK YOU. SHE HAS FRONT ROW SEATING NEXT TO ONE INTERVIEW. STEVE. STEVE COMES TO US WITH 25 YEARS OF HUMAN RESOURCES IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, K-12 AND HIGHER EDUCATION WITH 14 YEARS OF LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE FOCUSED ON REALLY ALIGNING OUR TO ORGANIZATIONAL GOALS AND REALLY CREATING A MORE WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT. IN HIS SPARE TIME HE LIKES TO TRAVEL AND, PAINT AND SPEND TIME WITH HIS WIFE DENISE AND NINE YEAR OLD TWINS PRESSLEY AND PAXTON. STEVE BARRETT, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. I REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS OPPORTUNITY. THE STAFF HERE HAVE BEEN SO WELCOMING AND GRACIOUS. IT'S A WONDERFUL H.R. DEPARTMENT AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. GOOD. AND WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU TOO. IT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY AND AN ORGANIZATION THIS SIZE. WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. SPEAKING OF H.R. AN ORGANIZATION OF THIS SIZE IT'S MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE YVONNE TOLLMAN WHO IS IN OUR BUSINESS PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BOTH A B.S. AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN INDUSTRY INDUSTRIAL ORGANIZATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY. WELL, IT HAS A COMPREHENSIVE PROFESSIONAL SPANNING 12 YEARS WITHIN HUMAN RESOURCES PREDOMINANTLY THE PUBLIC SECTOR IN ADDITION TO PROFESSIONAL PURSUITS PERSONAL FULFILLMENT FROM PLAYING FOOTBALL FOR THE MINNESOTA AND SPENDING QUALITY TIME WITH TWO CANINE COMPANIONS AND YVONNE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE AND I HAVE NEGLECTED TO BRING HER FORWARD JUST BECAUSE IT WAS MY MISTAKE. BUT SHE HAS BEEN JUST A JOY TO WORK WITH AND HAS FOSTERED PARTNERSHIPS WITH HER TEAMS AND THEY LOVE HAVING HER AS BUSINESS PARTNER AND SO SORRY FOR BEING LATE BUT IF FLOOR YOURS GOOD EVENING WELCOME. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. I KNOW I HAVE ENJOYED MY TEN MONTHS HERE SO FAR I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD FIT AND I AM ALWAYS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT HOW THE CITY SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. FABULOUS. WHAT POSITIONS DO YOU PLAY WITH THE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I PLAYED ON THE D LINE. THEY MOVED ME TO THE OLD LINE THIS YEAR SO I THINK I'LL BE A GUARD. VERY GOOD BUDDY. YOU ARE ON THE LINE SO WELCOME. THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THE THREE OF YOU AND LOOK AGAIN LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU AROUND CITY HALL IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. THANKS MUCH. ALL SO I'M GOING TO BRING THIS HOME SO KARLA HENDERSON FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT I WANT TO FIRST INTRODUCE KATHERINE MURRAY SO YOU'LL BE PLEASED TO KNOW SHE IS JOINING OUR CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PART OF BETTY AND WHAT WE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY IS EXPAND WE CREATE A PLACEMAKING SO KATHERINE STARTED NOVEMBER 20TH AS THE CREATE A PLACEMAKING SPECIALIST IN THE PORT AUTHORITY DIVISION SUPPORTING ALI ALEJANDRO. HER INITIAL PROJECT FOCUS HAS BEEN TAKING ON ART INSTALLATIONS BOTH IN THE SOUTH LOOP THE FIRST ATTEMPTS AT TAKING CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PROGRAMING CITYWIDE SHE IS ENJOYING ENCOMPASSING HER EXPERIENCE AND COMPASSION, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE ARTS. IN HER NEW ROLE KATHERINE SPENDS HER SPARE TIME WITH HER FAMILY EITHER HERE IN THE CITIES OR UP NORTH AT THE FAMILY CABIN. SO HERE'S KATHERINE MURRAY, THE GOOD EVENING EVENING I'M SO PLEASED TO BE HERE AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY ANDOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE CELEBRATION FOR THE NEW COMMUNITY GARDEN. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WELCOME. ALL RIGHT, KELLY JACKSON, WHEN FAITH MET HER SHE WAS LIKE A LONG COUSIN, MISS JACKSON. SO MISS JACKSON BEGAN A PROGRAM SPECIALIST TO ON OCTOBER 16TH IN THE HRA DIVISION WORKING IN RESIDENTIAL AND DEVELOPMENT . SHE IS FROM MINNESOTA AND LOVES TO TRAVEL. SHE ENJOYS SPORTS AND SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND IS KNOWN TO TRY NEW RECIPES AND INVITING PEOPLE OVER TO TASTE, TEST AND. SO HERE'S KELLY JACKSON. GOOD EVENING. OH, THANK AND HOPE TO WORK WITH YOU. SO YOU'RE GOOD THANKS THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND FOR DEAL CHIC SO HE STARTED ON DECEMBER 4TH AS A PROGRAM SPECIALIST TO IN THE HRT DIVISION VIDEO CAME FROM SOMALIA TO MINNESOTA 23 YEARS AGO AND CURRENTLY LIVES IN EDINA. WE WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM WITH OVER 19 YEARS OF SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE IN BOTH THE PROFIT AND NONPROFIT SECTORS, HE HAS EXPERIENCE IN LEASING MANAGEMENT COMPLIANCE SPECIALIST ACADEMIC CONSULTATION CUSTOMER SERVICE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BOTH MARKET AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HE RECEIVED HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN RELATIONS FROM METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN MANAGEMENT FROM SAINT MARY'S UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FOR DEALS BACKGROUND HAS TAUGHT HIM THE IMPORTANCE OF TIME MANAGEMENT AND GIVEN HIM THE ABILITY TO ADAPT TO UNEXPECTED DAILY CHALLENGES WHEN HE ISN'T WORKING FOR DIEHL ENJOYS READING THE HISTORY BOOKS AND SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS. THANK GOOD EVENING FOR THE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GOD FOR THOSE WORDS AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TO TALK WITH YOU WITH SO MUCH AND THANKS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ELLIOTT BROOKES. ELLIOTT BEGAN AS THE PLANNING OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST ON DECEMBER 4TH. HE IS A LIFELONG TWIN CITIES RESIDENT AND RECEIVED HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE U OF M WITH MAJORS IN AND ANTHROPOLOGY. HE WORKED MOST RECENTLY FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND IN HIS FREE TIME ELLIOTT ENJOYS GARDENING AND PLANNING FOR HIS UPCOMING WEDDING IN THE NEXT TO HIS FIANCEE MAGNOLIA. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. I'M SO HAPPY TO HAVE GOTTEN OPPORTUNITY AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING LOT IN THE PLANNING DIVISION. THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN AND JUST HAPPY TO BE SERVING MY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE. JESSIE JOHNSON, JOEL ALDRIDGE STARTED AS A PLUMBING INSPECTOR FOR THE UNITED AND OCTOBER 16TH. HE GREW UP IN BUFFALO, MINNESOTA ON A AND BEGAN HIS RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING CAREER WITH PLYMOUTH PLUMBING 1991 TO 2001 THEN GAINED 20 YEARS OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PLUMBING EXPERIENCE WHEN HE WON IT WHEN HE WORKED AS A JOURNEYMAN AND FOREMAN ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO BECOME AN INSPECTOR AND WAS LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY. AND WHEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON POSTED A JOB AS INSPECTOR HE APPLIED. HE LOVES HIS JOB HERE AND SAYS THE ARE VERY ACCOMMODATING AND FRIENDLY. HE AND HIS WIFE LIKE TO TRAVEL TRY NEW RESTAURANTS, SPEND TIME WITH FRIENDS AND THEIR LITTLE DOG LILLY IN THEIR FREE TIME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND WORK HERE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S BEEN A REAL JUST GREAT OPPORTUNITY EVERYBODY SO FRIENDLY AND IT'S JUST I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD DOWN THE ROAD HERE TO KEEP WITH IT BUT THANK YOU GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND JAMIE SAID HE YOUR HAIRCUT SO WELL SAME SAME BEAUTICIAN ALL RIGHT JESSIE DENVER STARTED AS A PLUMBING INSPECTOR ON OCTOBER 23RD ORIGINALLY FROM LAKEVILLE. JESSIE NOW LIVES IN WITH HIS WIFE, DAUGHTER AND TWO DOGS IN THEIR FREE TIME. JESSIE AND HIS WIFE LIKE TO SPEND TIME ON THE LAKE WHEN IT'S WARM ENOUGH FISHING, SWIMMING AND JET SKIING. JESSIE ALSO LIKES GOING FOR WALKS TO PARKS LOOKING FOR NEWER BIGGER SLIDES WITH HIS TWO YEAR OLD AND SPENDING TIME WITH EXTENDED FAMILY. A FUN FACT ABOUT JESSIE IS THAT HE REALLY ENJOYS MUSKY I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT FUN IT FIRST OFF I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY HERE YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT A GREAT TEAM FOR LOVE AND ALL YOU GUYS I MEAN EVERYBODY'S VERY NICE AND VERY FRIENDLY AND IT'S JUST GREAT TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY BUT FEEL THAT CAME FROM SOME DAYS IT WASN'T A JOY TO COME AND EVERYBODY REALLY THEIR JOB I MEAN THEY REALLY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR THE CUSTOMER. EVERYBODY I'VE MET SO FAR FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IT IS THEY WORK REALLY HARD TO. MAKE SURE THE CUSTOMERS ARE HAPPY. SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND CLOSING US THIS EVENING. LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IS ON TAO ONG STARTED HER POSITION WITH THE HRA AS THE OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST ON OCTOBER 30TH. SHE'S ORIGINALLY FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND CURRENTLY RESIDES IN SAINT PAUL IN HER TIME AND ENJOYS DOING WHAT MAKES HER HAPPY WHICH CAN RANGE FROM RELAXING AT HOME TO BAKING DESSERTS. DO IT YOURSELF CRAFTS ARTS AND CRAFTS PROJECTS AND TRAVELING TO NEW PLACES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS IT'S AN TO BE HERE AND A PLEASURE TO MEET ALL OF YOU GUYS AND I'M ENJOYING SO FAR IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT FROM CALIFORNIA BUT IT'S NOT BAD HERE. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. LET'S WELCOME ALL OF THEM AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS OUR LARGEST GROUP THAT WE'VE EVER WELCOMED IN AS A FIRST TIME YOU KNOW, WELCOMING PEOPLE TO THE TO THE BLOOMINGTON CITY STAFF. SO GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING ON BOARD HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE WE WE EXCEL AT NUTS AND BOLTS WORK OF COMMUNITY AND CITY GOVERNMENT AND. WHAT I HEARD FROM ALL OF YOU YOU'RE IN YOU'RE IN THE NUTS AND BOLTS WORLD AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND CONTINUING TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I'M VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING. THANKS SO MUCH. MOVING WE HAVE A ITEM TO POINT TO IS A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM AS I SAID, ITEM 2.2 IS A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, FEBRUARY IS DEDICATED BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THE BLOOMINGTON EMPLOYEE NETWORK HAS MADE THE REQUEST ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR THAT WE ISSUED A PROCLAMATION HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF OUR BLACK EMPLOYEES NETWORK AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS HERE TO JOIN US. IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND AND STAND BEHIND ME HERE IS AS I READ THE PROCLAMATION THEN WE'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU AND GIVE YOU THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'D LIKE AS WELL. GOOD AND WELCOME. THIS IS OUR PROCLAMATION BLACK HISTORY FEBRUARY 2020 FOURTH WHEREAS DR. CARTER G. WOODSON, FOUNDER OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY IN 1915 INITIATED HISTORY WEEK IN 1926 AS A WAY OF HIGHLIGHTING THE INVOLVEMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS BLACK AMERICANS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NATION'S DEMOCRACY. AND. WHEREAS, AS PART OF THE NATION'S BICENTENNIAL WEEK WAS EXPANDED TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 1976 AND. WHEREAS DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WE ACKNOWLEDGE HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE MANY ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY BLACK AMERICANS TO OUR NATION'S ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT. AND. WHEREAS, BY OBSERVING BLACK HISTORY MONTH IT PROVIDES US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF BLACK HISTORY AMERICAN HISTORY IN THE UNITED STATES AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE OF STRUGGLES FOR EQUALITY AND FREEDOM AS WELL AS THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND SUCCESSES. AND. WHEREAS IN 2021 TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH, THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING INTRODUCED THE BLOOMINGTON PIONEERS AND CHANGEMAKERS, A PROFILE SERIES FEATURING LOCAL BLACK LEADERS WHO ARE WORKING TO ADVANCE CIVIL RIGHTS AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO EQUITY. AND. WHEREAS, IN THIS PROFILE SERIES THE CITY HONORS PIONEERS WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH TO CHART THE PATH TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND CHANGEMAKERS WHO ARE PAVING WAY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR WE WILL CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT AND HONOR DEDICATED BLACK LEADERS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE. TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2024 AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DATED THE 29TH DAY OF JANUARY 2024. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TO ACCEPT IT. I'LL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU. APPRECIATE VERY GOOD I AM JOHN STAIN ON WHAT? I'M THE CO-CHAIR OF THE MULTI BEN BLACK AND BLOOMINGTON'S BLACK EMPLOYEE NETWORK. I AM ALSO IN THE ASSESSING DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THIS. I APPRECIATE ACKNOWLEDGMENT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO LET KNOW WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE FINALIZING THE THE EVENT THE PIONEERS AND CHANGEMAKERS AT THE END OF THE MONTH. SO WE ARE ON THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. AT 530 AT THE ZAWADI CENTER. BUT BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT AND VERY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. OF COURSE. AND THANKS FOR BEING PART OF THE BLACK POINT WORKFORCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL ALL . GAME THREE ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THE CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAT WAS ON SORRY I BLOCKED MY OWN MICROPHONE. PROBABLY TELLS YOU SOMETHING. STICK TO IT. WANNA SEE SO I DON'T HAVE ANY HOLDS FROM ANYBODY AND MAKE ONE MORE LAST CALL HERE IF THAT'S IF THAT IS WE'RE AT THEN BY TRADITION I WILL HOLD ON TO 3.1 AND MOVE ITEMS 3.2 TO 3.25 ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA . MOTEMA COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. COUNCILMEMBER IA3 POINT ONE. YES THANK YOU AS ALWAYS. WE LOVE TO CALL OUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GENEROUS WITH THEIR GIFTS TO THE CITY IT IT'S AMAZING THAT I THINK ALMOST EVERY CONSENT AGENDA SEEMS TO HAVE DONATIONS ITEMS IT WHICH IS JUST INDICATIVE OF HOW GENEROUS A POPULATION WE HAVE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE A GREAT NUMBER OF OF GIFTS TO OUR BPD INCLUDING K-9 UNIT AND WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT THE FOLKS AT HOME INSTEAD WHO GAVE US SUPPORTED THE HOLIDAY CELEBRATION EVENT AT SOUTHGATE APARTMENTS SO ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO DONATES TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ITEM 3.1 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 AND THEIR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR ON OUR AGENDA. THAT'S OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND WE WILL START WITH ITEM 4.1 WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE FEASIBILITY REPORT AND ORDER THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. BOB SIMONS THERE HE IS AND WE WERE HE'S OUR SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER AND HE WILL BE PRESENTING THIS THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING SALMOND. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL DOES MENTION WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE TO ORDER THE 2020 FOR 111 POPPY PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. THIS THIS PROJECT IS IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH OUR BRIAN BRIAN PERKINS PARK RENOVATION PROJECTS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARK AND RECREATION STAFF AS WELL AS THEIR TEAM ON THIS PROJECT AND THE PARK AND RECREATION STAFF WILL BE COMING I BELIEVE IN FEBRUARY TO REVIEW THE STATUS OF THE ACTUAL PARK RENOVATION PROJECTS. THIS IS ENCOMPASSING THE SIDEWALKS TRAIL KIND OF CONNECTIVITY TO THOSE PARKS WITH THIS PROJECT. SO I'LL RUN THROUGH A SHORT PRESENTATION HERE OF REVIEW THE PROJECTS BRIAN'S AND TRIP ARE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SO THE FUNDING SOURCES THEN A FEW OF THE NEXT STEPS TO START WITH THE PROJECT OVERVIEW FOR THE BRYANT PARK SIDEWALK AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS. A FEW OF THE DESIGN HIGHLIGHTS WE'D BE LOOKING TO INSTALL A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AROUND THE EXTERIOR BRYANT PARK SO ADJACENT TO AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP HERE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN PINK AND WHAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE BUT ON EMERSON 84TH AND A HALF 84TH ALDRICH BRYANT AND 85TH AS WELL INSTALLING A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE PARK. ALSO THROUGH OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR BRYANT AND TREVOR WE RECEIVED A STRONG OUTPOURING FROM THE NEIGHBORS. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE WERE ALREADY LOOKING INTO INSTALLING BUT A STRONG OUTPOURING FROM THE NEIGHBORS FOR CROSSINGS 86TH STREET AT BOTH EMERSON AND BRYANT TO GET FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH UP TO THE PARK. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS PROJECT INSTALLING SOME PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, SOME MEDIAN REFUGE ISLANDS AT EMERSON AND AND AT BRYANT AND THEN ALSO SOME SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO BRYANT EMERSON AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH INTO THAT. I ALSO I SHOULD MENTION THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT, A CONNECTION UP ON 82ND STREET AS WELL CROSSING OF 82ND STREET TO GET DOWN TO THE PARK. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE THIS PROJECT BUT ENGINEERING STAFF PARK AND REC STAFF IS VERY AWARE OF THAT AND WE LOOK TO BE INCLUDING THAT IN A FUTURE PROJECT. ALSO ON THE BRYANT PARK AREA WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS . WE HAVE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ABOUT THE NEED FOR TRAFFIC CALMING IN THE AREA, A LOT OF SPEEDING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT UTILIZING THE INSTALLATION OF SOME BOATS TO DO SOMETHING . SHOULD I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON? I APOLOGIZE. I TURN THE WHOLE SYSTEM OFF, GRANT. I CAN KEEP GOING IF YOU LIKE BUT. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. BY THE WAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THOUGH. SIGNED A COPY OF STANDING BY . ALL RIGHT. THERE WERE BACK TO MIKE BACK AND I THINK ALAN'S COMING BACK ON I APOLOGIZE ABOUT MY BAD NO THAT'S A TOTALLY FINE EAGLE. I'LL BE BACK. ALL RIGHT . I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD DO THAT . THERE WE GO GO. ARE WE LOOKING AT YOU ARE GOING. THANK YOU AGAIN. MY THAT'S JUST FINE. ALL RIGHT, CURVEBALLS. WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL CURVE ON EMMERSON DUPONT 84TH AND ALDRICH WITH THIS PROJECT. ALSO JUST LOOKING AT OVERALL ADA ACCESSIBILITY UPGRADES AND THE EXTERIOR OF THE PARK, THE ENTRANCES TO THE PARK AS WELL AS ALONG WITH SOME STORM SEWER UPGRADES ALONG 84TH, 84TH AND A HALF IN DUPONT WE HAVE A PMP RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ORDERED FOR 84TH STREET IN DUPONT IN ANY FOURTH AND A HALF ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK WE LOOK TO COORDINATE SOME SEWER UPGRADES WITH THAT PROJECT WITH THIS THE SIDEWALK AND TRAIL PROJECT AS LOOKING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE BRYANT AND EMERSON AVENUE WALK. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL SIDEWALK ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE PARK BRYANT PARK THESE TWO LOCATIONS WOULD BE SIDEWALK TO BE INSTALLED ADJACENT TO ADJACENT TWO PROPERTIES ALONG EMERSON AND ALONG BRYANT AVENUE. SO IN EMERSON AVENUE THAT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO SOME TRAFFIC CALMING A BUMP OUT OF ON EMERSON AVENUE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE SIDEWALK AND THEN ON BRYANT AVENUE ALSO ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRYANT AVENUE AT MAKING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM 86TH UP TO THE PARK FOR. BOTH OF THESE LOCATIONS WE LOOKED AT EITHER THE EAST OR THE WEST SIDE FOR SIDEWALK INSTALLATION AND IT WAS IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE FEASIBLE BE INSTALLING SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE IN BOTH LOCATIONS FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY IN THE AREA, THE EXISTING GRADES IN THE BOULEVARDS, EXISTING LANDSCAPING AVAILABLE RIGHT AWAY SOME UTILITY CONFLICTS AND STORMS THAT WERE CONFLICTS IN THE AREA AND THEN ALSO JUST OVERALL CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THE 86TH STREET NOT HAVING A SKEWED CROSSING AT SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS. SO LOOKING AT IT LIKE I MENTIONED INSTALLING SIDEWALK ON THE EAST OF BRYANT AND ON EMERSON WE HAVE HAD DIRECT CONTACT WITH THESE RESIDENTS. THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE INSTALLED IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE BOULEVARD AREA WE'VE HAD DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE RESIDENTS THROUGH PHONE CALLS, MAILS, DIRECT MAILINGS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH A FEW OF THEM AT OUR AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS. I DID RECENTLY SPEAK WITH THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AT 86TH AND EMERSON ON THAT CORNER AND THEY NOTED THAT THE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT THEY SEE IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER MONTHS AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THIS THIS THIS INSTALLATION IS GOING TO BE OCCURRING SO THEN MOVING ON TO THE TRIP PARK IMPROVEMENTS WITH THIS WE'RE LOOKING ONCE AGAIN SIMILAR TO BRYANT MAKING CONNECTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRIP BALLPARK LOOKING AT A TEN FOOT TRAIL INSTALLATION ADJACENT TO THE PARK FROM FRANCE TO JUST EAST OF THIRD AVENUE. AS YOU KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO WE INSTALLED A MULTIMODAL TRAIL ON THE WEST SIDE OF FRANCE AVENUE WITH A BOARDWALK NEAR THAT LOCATION AS WELL. THIS WOULD BE A CONNECTION FROM THAT OVER TO TRACK PARK MULTIMODAL CONNECTION OVER TO THE PARK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT WE ALSO RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM FOLKS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE INTENDING ON INSTALLING BUT WE DEFINITELY RECEIVED SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE INSTALLATION OF A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT NINE YEAR STREET TO GET ACCESS TO THAT BALLPARK . SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT DOING LOOKING AT DOING THAT WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS JUST OVERALL ADA ACCESSIBILITY UPGRADES TO THE PARK AND I SHOULD MENTION WHAT YOU SEE FOR CHIP ON BRYANT PARK FOR THE THE LAYOUTS WITHIN THE PARK AS I MENTIONED PARK AND RECREATION STAFF WILL BE COMING WITH THEIR TEAM IN IT SOUNDS LIKE IN FEBRUARY TO REVIEW THE STATUS THAT PROJECT SO DON'T KNOW THOSE LAYOUTS ARE NOT ARE NOT ACCURATE THIS POINT THEY'RE GOING TO BE UPDATED BEFORE WE THEY CAN BE COME FORWARD OR THEY COME FORWARD WITH WITH THOSE WITH THOSE PROJECTS SO JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE THAT'S IT FOR CHIP PARK AND THEN LET'S SEE A NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS I MENTIONED A FEW TIMES ALREADY WE'VE DONE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS 22 AND 23 AS PART OF THE PARK MASTER PLAN ENGAGEMENT FOR BRYANT AND PART A PARK AND RECREATION STAFF HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BRYANT AND TRIPP PARK FOLKS FOR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SIDEWALK AND TRAILS. A LOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT STARTED IN JULY 23 WE ARE AT RIGHT CAME TO CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER A FEASIBILITY REPORT ORDERED THE START OF A FEASIBILITY REPORT AND THEN ALSO IN JULY OF 2023 THE WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BRYANT AVENUE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE JUMPED ON WITH THE BRYANT AVENUE PARK RENOVATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND WE THE ENGINEERING STAFF HELD A MEETING TO THE OVERALL TRAFFIC NEEDS IN THE AREA AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK ON THE CROSSINGS AT 86TH STREET, THE NEED FOR THE CONNECTIONS FROM 86TH STREET UP TO THE PARK, TRAFFIC CALMING NEEDS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. THEN IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023 THERE WAS ADDITIONAL BRYANT AND BALL PARK MEET RENOVATION PART MEETINGS THAT ENGINEERING WITH WITH THE PARK STAFF THEN FROM THAT POINT THROUGH JANUARY HERE WE'VE HAD DIRECT CONTACT THROUGH VOICEMAILS, PHONE CALLS DIRECT MAILINGS TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO, THE NEW SIDEWALK BEING INSTALLED AND EMERSON AND BRYANT AND THEN WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING QUICKLY ON THE PROJECT COSTS OVERALL PROJECT COSTS INCLUDING CONTINGENCY AND PROJECT ADMINISTRATION WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1.3 MILLION FOR BOTH THOSE BRYANT AND BALL PARK TRAILS BRYANT BEING ABOUT 870,000 OF THAT AND BY BEING ABOUT 450,000 OF THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FUNDING. THE MAIN FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS IS OUR PARK TRAILS CONSTRUCTION SOURCE WHICH IS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF OUR FRONT THAT WE USE FOR OUR FRANCHISE FEES FOR PARK TRAILS AND SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE THAT'S ABOUT 1.1 MILLION AND THEN I MENTIONED WE HAVE SOME STORM SEWER UPGRADES. IT'S ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND TO GET TO THAT $1.3 MILLION TOTAL NEXT STEPS WE'D BE LOOKING TO COMPLETE DESIGN ONCE THE PROJECT IS ORDERED HERE IN FEBRUARY OF 24 WE'D COME BACK WITH A CONSENT ITEM TO APPROVE PLANS AND SPECS WE LOOK TO START ADVERTISING IN BIDDING IN MARCH APRIL ISSUE OF 2020 FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE SUMMER OF 2024 AND WE'LL BE COORDINATING IT CLOSELY WITH THE BRYANT AND SHUT BALL PARK RENOVATION AS WELL AS OUR 24/2 PROJECT ON 84TH AND 84TH AND A HALF IN DUPONT AND. WITH THAT WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDED MOTION FOR THIS EVENING AND I KNOW THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. THERE MAY BE FOLKS HERE TO SPEAK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY SO. OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. SIMONDS. THANK YOU AGAIN. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION. A QUICK QUESTION ON THE THE CROSSINGS THAT ARE PLANNED ARE THOSE SIMPLE REFUGE ISLANDS OR THEY BE THE FLASHING LIGHTS OR WHAT KIND OF CROSSINGS ARE WE TALKING HERE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT MAYOR. THE THAT AS NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLANDS WITH STRIPED CROSSWALKS IN THOSE LOCATIONS THOUGH AT BOTH LOCATIONS ON 86TH STREET AND ALSO ON 90TH STREET AS WELL ON 90TH STREET. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT THAT CROSSING READY IF WE WERE TO AN RFP IN THE FUTURE. BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WARRANTS THE NEED FOR AN RFP BUT IF IN THE FUTURE IT WILL IT WOULD IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO ADD ON TO A TO A DIFFERENT PROJECT. SO THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT AND I GUESS MY ADVICE WOU BE TO TO OVERDO IT IN TERMS OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS WHETHER IT'S A REFUGE ISLAND OR OR WHATEVER ELSE CAN BE DONE JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS AS THEY CROSS IT AND EVEN IF NOW IT DOESN'T PERHAPS WARRANTED IT VERY WELL WILL OR COULD IN THE FUTURE. AND SO I WOULD SAY AIM HIGHER FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR PEDESTRIANS SAFE. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. SO IF YOU COULD KEEP THAT IN MIND AND APPRECIATE IT, WE'LL DO IT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL QUESTIONS OF MR. SIMON'S COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU MENTIONED ON 84TH AND A HALF STREET IN DUPONT THAT YOU'RE COORDINATING WITH STORMWATER PROJECT. IS THAT RIGHT? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? OKAY. IS THAT RELATED? THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD ABOUT USING THAT NORTH NORTHERN POND FOR RUNOFF MANAGEMENT, IS THAT RELATED TO THAT OR IS IT JUST LIKE AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT RELATED TO HOW THE INFLOW HAPPENS REGARDS TO THE AND TRAIL PROJECT THIS IS MOSTLY JUST AN INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY UPGRADE IN REGARDS TO THE THE WORK THAT'S OCCURRING THIS THIS WINTER'S POND DREDGING PROJECT ON BRYANT BRYANT AVENUE THAT IS COORDINATED BEING COORDINATED WITH THAT BRYANT PARK. SO A LOT OF THE STORMS ARE UPGRADES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ARE MORE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE NEED FOR REPLACEMENT PIPES THAT ARE EXISTING PIPES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. LONG 84 STREET 80 OKAY. YEAH THAT'S HELPFUL. SO SO THE ACTUAL CHANGES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WERE RELATED TO WILL HAPPEN AS PART OF THE PARK RENOVATION NOT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, CORRECT THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. SIMONDS IF NOT THANK YOU MR. SALMON. STICK AROUND. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW ON ITEM 4.1. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE FEASIBILITY AND TO ORDER THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 2020 4-1 11 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.1 THIS EVENING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE COME ON FORWARD NOW AND AS WE AS WE GET INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS I'LL JUST LAY DOWN SOME GROUND RULES HERE. FIRST OF ALL, I NEED YOU TO SIGN IN AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SECONDLY, WE LIMIT TO EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO 5 MINUTES AND WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE SHOT CLOCK ON THE WALL AND WE DON'T DO THAT. WE DON'T CUT PEOPLE OFF. I DON'T LIMIT YOU TO 5 MINUTES BECAUSE I MEAN IT'S SIMPLY SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS SAME 5 MINUTES AND WE DON'T GIVE PREFERENCE TO ANYONE SO SO SO IF YOU COULD TELL US YOUR NAME AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND I'M AFRAID I'M RON CASTLE WE LIVE AT OR MY PARENTS AT THE ADFA 33 THEY BOTH HAVE DIED IN THE LAST YEAR NOW AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU PUTTING THE PET TRAP IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. WE HAVEN'T SOLD IT YET BECAUSE WE IN THE LAST 56 YEARS THAT THEY LIVED THERE. I MEAN IT WAS WHEN I WAS BORN THEY MOVED THERE. WE HAVE HAD SNOW COME IN FROM THAT PARK BLOWS ACROSS AND WE GOT SIX FEET OF SNOW IN FRONT OF MY MOM AND DAD'S HOUSE EVERY YEAR AND THE CATCH BASINS FREEZE UP IT BECOMES A LAKE IN THE CITY DOESN'T COME OUT AND CHART THE ICE. OUR KIDS WE DO IT. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE SELL THIS HOUSE AND THEN PEOPLE THEN I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT PED RAMP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ACROSS THE STREET. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS BUSINESS FOR 52 YEARS. I KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT IN 88 RAMP YOU'RE GOING TO DRILL 20 FEET A CURVE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO WHAT ARE YOU GNG TO DO WITH THE TWO CATCH BASINS THAT ARE SITTING THERE? ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THEM INTO ADA? MR. CASTLE IF YOU DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE TIME I WAS TALKING TO HIM UNDERSTOOD. I WANT HIM THERE LISTENING. YEAH, HE WILL. DON'T WORRY. OKAY. WHAT WE'LL DO OKAY THEN WE JUST TO CATCH BASINS ACROSS THE STREET WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MOVE THIS RAMP A LITTLE BIT TO THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THERE'S A TREE RIGHT THERE ARE GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT ANSWERED AND WHAT'S GOING TO DO FOR THE NEW OWNER THAT'S GOING TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT SNOW COMING ACROSS THE LAKE. I MEAN I LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY. I GET SIX AND EIGHT FOOT DRIFTS GOING ACROSS MY DRIVEWAY. SO I KNOW WHAT THAT PARK IS GOING TO DO THEN WHERE IS THAT SNOW GOING TO GO? SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THINGS WE WANT ANSWERED SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IF WE TELL THE NEW HOMEOWNERS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO KEEP THE ICE FROM FORMING, ARE YOU GOING TO SEND CREW OUT THERE ALL THE TIME THE JOB BASE? BECAUSE MY MOM AND DAD LIVED THERE WE'D CALL AND THEY WOULDN'T DO IT. I MEAN I KNOW THE CITY IS BIG THEY GOT A LOT OF PARKS. I KNOW EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND HOW THEY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO THIS YEAR. WE WANT TO KNOW I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS. I'LL HAVE MR. SIMONDS AS WE FINISH UP WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. WELL, THE STAFF WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEN IDEALLY HAVE YOU STEP OUT IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND HE CAN TALK VERY SPECIFICALLY WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I SAW ANOTHER HAND UP PLEASE COME AND JOIN US. HELLO, I AM ROBERT COLEMAN. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO BRYANT PARK BUT I'VE BEEN TO TREADWELL PARK AND AS SOMEBODY WHO I WALK TO WORK EVERY DAY BUT FIVE DAYS A WEEK I HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LOT. I HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES IN TERMS I DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES OF TWO WAY STOPS WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE I WALK ALONG THE I CROSS THE STREET FOR EXAMPLE AT 108TH IN FRANCE AND THERE'S A BUMP OUT AND THERE'S A TWO WAY STOP EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE STOP SIGN JUST BLAST THROUGH. I'VE HAD AT THAT EXACT LOCATION TWICE PEOPLE HAVE INTENTIONALLY TRIED TO HIT ME WHILE CROSSING THE STREET AND ONCE SOMEBODY HAS ACCIDENTALLY TRIED TO ACCIDENTALLY HIT ME CROSSING THE STREETS AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT I THAT MAYBE THE RECTANGLE CROSSING BEACONS ARE NOT WARRANTED IN THOSE LOCATIONS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. MAYOR FOR SAYING THAT WE WANT TO THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO HAZARD SAFER RATHER THAN CHEAPER OBVIOUSLY. BUT THOSE KINDS OF CROSSING TREATMENTS REALLY GIVE SOME KIND OF PEACE OF MIND TO ME AND I REALLY FOUR WAY STOP IS BETTER I KNOW THERE ARE TRAFFIC CONCERNS BUT WHEN A CAR HAS THE THREAT OF ANOTHER CAR HITTING THEM T THEM THAT IS WAY MORE OF A DETERRENT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN THAN ME. I'VE HAD OTHER TROUBLES IN OTHER LOCATIONS IN THAT AREA BUT I KNOW THAT BUMP OUT WITH A TWO WAY STOP AND EVEN WITH THE JUST THE REFLECTIVE YELLOW FOR A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR SOME PEOPLE. SO THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, MR. COLEMAN. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TEN 4.1 MR. BRILLIANT DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? YES, MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE SOMEONE WAITING ON THE LINE WITH FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR WITH A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITIES. I'LL CHECK IN WITH THEM TO SEE WHICH ITEM THEY'RE CALLING ABOUT. CALLER WITH THE PHONE NUMBER BEGINNING WITH 612373 ARE YOU CALLING IN TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.1 OR ANOTHER ITEM IN THIS EVENING? YOU AND ONE MORE CALL. CALLER WITH THE PHONE NUMBER 612373 YOUR LINE IS UNMUTED. ARE YOU LOOKING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM 4.1 OR ANOTHER ITEM ? ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORT, MR. BRILL. APPRECIATE IT. LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO SPEAK DOWN AND 4.1 CALLS SO NO ONE ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WITH THAT I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND 4.1 THIS EVENING SOME MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. SO MR. SIMONS COUPLE OF QUESTIONS CAME UP. MR. CASTLE IN PARTICULAR CONCERNED ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL AND ON AND SO ON. YOU HEARD THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU RESPOND OR RESPOND AS BEST YOU CAN BUT AS I SAID I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST A CONVERSATION PERHAPS OUT IN THE HALL MIGHT BE THE BEST. BUT IF YOU COULD, MR. SECRETARY THANK YOU A MAYOR AND COUNCIL YES I CAN TRY TO ANSWER A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER ELSE CAN BE ANSWERED ON THE HIGHWAY IN REGARDS TO THE PEDESTRIAN RAMP INSTALLATION THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT CURB REMOVALS IN THE AREA AND YES WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WE'LL DEFINITELY BE REMOVING A PORTION OF CURB PROBABLY UPWARDS OF 20 FEET AT THE LOCATION OF THOSE PEDESTRIAN RAMP INSTALLATIONS SO THAT WE BE SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN RAMP THAT IS INSTALLED IS ADA COMPLIANT. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CATCH BASINS, SOME STORM SURGE STRUCTURES AS MR. COSTA REFERRED TO IN THAT LOCATION ACTUALLY JUST NORTH OF THE LOCATION WHERE WE PLAN ON PUTTING THOSE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET ADA ACCESSIBILITY AT THOSE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS WITH THE LOCATIONS THAT THOSE STRUCTURES IN IF THINGS NEED TO BE MOVED WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE THEM. BUT LIKE I SAID WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL THOSE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS SOUTH OF THOSE EXISTING STORM SEWER STRUCTURES AND ALSO THERE WAS A COMMENT OR QUESTION ABOUT A TREE IN THE AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF BRYANT AVENUE. ONCE AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL THE PEDESTRIAN RAMP OUTSIDE OF THE AREA OF THAT OF THAT OF THAT EXISTING TREE JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT TO RELOCATION. BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GRADES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S TO WORK FOR THOSE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS IN REGARDS TO SNOW CITY STAFF COMES THROUGH IN ARE OUR SIDEWALKS WHENEVER WE HAVE SNOW EVENTS I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS PARTICULAR WALK WOULD BE ON THE LIST OF OF WHAT ORDER OF THE IS AS TO HOW SOON IT'S PLOWED BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AND AND ESPECIALLY WITH IT BEING A PEDESTRIAN RAMP AND THAT LOCATION WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE'D BE LOOKING TO CLEAR THE SNOW FROM THAT LOCATION. I BELIEVE WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED. I THINK YOU GOT THOSE AND PERHAPS YOU AND MR. GARCIA COULD COULD STILL STEP OUT IF HE IF HE HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND COLEMAN ASKED ABOUT FOUR WAY STOPS AND SO ON. BUT I THINK WE'RE PRETTY SET ON THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DUE TO OVERDUE RATHER THAN UNDER DO BUT NOT NECESSARILY MOVE ALL THE WAY TO A FOUR WAY STOP, CORRECT? YEAH. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL THAT WE MISSED HERE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. FOLLOW UP QUESTION THE THE WHEN WE WHEN WE DID THE THE REVIEW OF OF THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WERE WE WERE WILLING TO FUND TO TO BRING IN TO CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS DID WE TALK A BIT ABOUT HIGH REFLECTIVE PRODUCT I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW A LOT OF IT CAN GO A LONG WAY WITH THAT ESPECIALLY SINCE WE GET SUCH DARK WINTER TIMES TOO ADD JUST REFLECTING PRODUCT TO SIGNAGE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP AND I AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE ABOUT I REMEMBER WE ADDED MORE LIKE RADAR YOU KNOW MOBILE RADAR THINGS AND OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT I'M CURIOUS IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE INCLUDING ANY MORE LIKE ANY INNOVATIONS IN HIGH REFLECTIVITY ON THOSE SIGNAGE IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE PUT IN THIS AREA IN MIRACLES MEMBER ALESSANDRA IN REGARDS TO THE SIGNAGE THAT WE PUT IN THE AREA, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD JUST BE FOLLOWING THE MANUAL ON ON ON REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR REFLECTIVITY IN THAT AREA . BEYOND THAT I GUESS I'M NOT SURE OF ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR. I THINK I KNOWOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE AND HE JUST SNUCK HIS WAY FORWARD. KIRK ROBERTS IF YOU COULD HELP US OUT, MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WE DO USE HIGH REFLECTIVITY ON ALL OF OUR SIGN INSTALLATIONS HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM STANDARDS WERE REQUIRED TO BY THE MANUAL SOME YEAH WE USE THAT IN EVERYTHING NOW. GREAT THANKS. MR. COULD THE MAIN REASON I THINK THAT I DEFINITELY WANT US TO OVERINDEX ON THIS LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE MAJORITY OF ESPECIALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IT TRACKBALL WITH THE SKILLS MARK IT'S BIKES AND KIDS ON BIKES CROSSING 90TH LIKE I WOULD ONE I'D WANT TO SHUT TRAFFIC AS BEST AS POSSIBLE THERE SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WE CAN MAKE ADVANCEMENTS IN THAT FOR SURE NEXT DEGREED COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN SO IT JUST OCCURS TO ME I THINK ABOUT VALLEY VIEW AND AREA THERE HAS THERE HAS STOPPED THERE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WOULD WE EVER CONSIDER SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE FOR THAT AREA? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC PIECES LOOK LIKE THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AT ALL AT THE AT THE END OUR AND ALWAYS COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN BUT JUST THINK ABOUT THAT YOU KNOW BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILMEMBER DOSANI JUST JUST RAISED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT THERE FOR THAT VALUE AREA WHERE YOU LITERALLY HAVE THE TRAFFIC COMING TO A STOP THERE TO COME ACROSS TO THE PIECE. COULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE DONE? I THINK COUNCILMEMBER I THINK I HOPE THE MESSAGE WAS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT TO OVER OVERDO THIS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, WHETHER IT'S THE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS FOR WE STOP THE THE FLASHERS THE THE SAFETY ISLANDS WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO AND TO TRY AND TO TRY AND ENGINEER THIS IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ENGINEER SAFETY AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT THIS WILL GET AS THESE LOCATIONS AND WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE. AND I WOULD DEFER TO DO YOU FOLKS IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE BEST WHAT'S FEASIBLE I YOU KNOW IF IT'S A FINANCIAL THING WE COULD SCOUT AROUND FOR SOME IAEA GRANTS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AND SEE IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH SOME CASH FOR THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL OR YEAH CORRECT. I'M HERE IN COSMODROME AND WE'LL WORK WITH OUR TRAFFIC STAFF ON FINDING THE RIGHT THE RIGHT TREATMENT FOR THOSE. BUT THANK YOU HAITIANS YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON IT AND 4.1 THIS EVENING I'D BE THRILLED MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND THEN JUST A QUICK COMMENT IF THAT'S THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR TAKING SERIOUSLY THE WORK THAT DID EARLY ON TO LOOK AT THESE PARKS. YOU KNOW THE IDEA THAT WE'VE ASKED THE CITY TO TO HELP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN GET TO AND FROM THOSE SAFELY AND SO AT THIS AND HAVING THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS FROM PARKS AS WELL AS TRAFFIC AND AND EVERYTHING ALL COMING TOGETHER TO DO THIS IS REALLY GREAT. I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS WAY SO THANK YOU THEY BOTH HAPPEN TO BE IN MY DISTRICT SO I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT AND AND HAVE BEEN PAYING EXTRA ATTENTION TO IT AS THE FOLKS ON CITY STAFF KNOW. SO REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ORDERING THE 2024 111 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ORDERING THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.2 ON OUR AGENDA. THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY SIDEWALK BIKEWAY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS OUTLETS OUT LOTS B AND U BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION CENTRAL SECOND EDITION MR. KIEHL THANK YOU MAYOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS IS AGAIN IS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF ROUTINE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AT BURLINGTON CENTRAL STATION. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY HELPING FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS PART THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RELEASING A NUMBER OF EASEMENTS THAT ARE ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND AFTER THAT HAPPENS THE DEVELOPER WILL GO THROUGH A REDO REPLANNING OF THOSE AND WE'LL REPLANT THOSE EASEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. SO THIS IS KIND OF JUST CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY TO FACILITATE THE FUTURE PLANNING IT. IT WON'T ACT THESE RELEASES WON'T ACTUALLY BE FILED THE PLAT IS APPROVED SO THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT WE WOULD RELEASE THESE EASEMENTS AND THEN THE DEVELOPER WOULDN'T PROCEED AND WE WOULD LOSE THE EASEMENT SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL COUNCIL QUESTIONS IN MR. KIEHL ON THIS ITEM NO QUESTIONS. MR. KIEHL THANK, YOU VERY MUCH STICK AROUND. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT NOW ON ITEM POINT TWO A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITIES AND BIKEWAY EASEMENTS AS STATED IN THE COUNCIL PACKET IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM POINT TWO THIS EVENING? NO ONE COMING FORWARD. MR. BULLARD ANYONE ON THE PHONE MR. MAYOR JUST THE SAME PHONE NUMBER HANGING IN THERE . DO WE WANT TO CHECK IN WITH THEM? JUST GIVE THEM ONE MORE SHOT SHOULD WE SOME AUDIO ISSUES. SO AGAIN CALLER WITH THE NUMBER WITH 612373 YOUR LINE IS UNMUTED YOU LOOKING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.2 OR ONE OF OUR OTHER ITEMS TONIGHT ? MAYBE THEY'RE JUST LISTENING IN TONIGHT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO SPEAK TO THEM 4.2 COUNCIL NO ONE ON THE PHONE NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THEY WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ITEM 4.2 THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS REGARDING 4.2 COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MOTION I SEE NO QUESTIONS COMING FORWARD SO COUNCILMEMBER PLEASE PREPARE A BILL TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY AND SIDEWALK BY WALK BIKE WAY OVER AND ACROSS OUT LOTS BE A NEW BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION SECOND EDITION PARCELS 97 DASH 11 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS STATED IN ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU MUCH MR. KEIL THANKS COUNSEL MOVE ON ITEM 4.3 ON OUR AGENDA THIS IS A AN UPDATE ON OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY. WELL AND MR. HANSEN IS BACK WITH US THIS EVENING AND WE WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER IT WAS IT LAST MONTH I BELIEVE IT WAS EARLIER THIS MONTH EARLIER THIS MONTH AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU'VE TALKED WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ON THIS I'VE GOTTEN SOME PUBLIC INPUT AS WELL AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF TWEAKS TO THIS SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE PRESENT IT AND THEN THE PLAN WILL BE WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY AND THEN COUNCIL WILL WE WILL DECIDE ON ACTION ON THIS IF NECESSARY. SO MR. HANSEN GREAT APPRECIATE THANK MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL AS YOU MENTIONED I'M BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN WITH THE FINAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES SO JUST TO GIVE SOME PROJECT UPDATES AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE DID GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AS WELL AS YOURSELVES WITH THE DRAFT PLAN TO GET FEEDBACK FROM ALL THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SINCE THEN WE TOOK IN THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED INTO THE FINAL PLAN AND THEN WENT BACK TO THE THOSE TO COMMISSION. SO SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSIONER 16TH AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JANUARY 18TH AND BOTH COMMISSIONERS DID RECOMMEND A MOTION ACCEPTANCE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE PLAN SO THE NEXT STEPS IF THE PLAN IS ACCEPTED THIS EVENING AT COUNCIL WE WOULD FORM AN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPLEMENTATION WORKGROUP MADE UP OF CITY STAFF TO CREATE AN ACTION ITEM MATRIX TO LOOK AT THE THE ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN, THE ACTION ITEMS AND KIND OF RANK AS FAR AS WHICH ITEMS TO ADDRESS FIRST AND THEN ACTUALLY BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION. SO BRINGING BACK THOSE ITEMS BEFORE A COUNCIL AND THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS NEEDED WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THERE A NOTE TO REEVALUATE PLAN IN FIVE YEARS I KNOW THAT CAME UP AT THE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE DISCUSSION ITEM AND OBVIOUSLY IF THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED PRIOR TO THAT WE WILL DO THAT. WE WANT TO HAVE A TOUCHPOINT IN THERE SO AFTER FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE WORK YOU'VE MADE THE PLAN HAS TECHNOLOGY CHANGE OR OTHER NEW YOU KNOW, A MORE INNOVATIVE SHOULD WE BE STILL BE WALKING DOWN THIS PATH? SHOULD WE BE MOVING THIS WOULD BE UPDATING IT SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A TOUCHPOINT IN THERE TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE THAT AND FOR ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PIVOT IF NEEDED IF THINGS HAPPEN FASTER IN THOSE FIVE YEARS. SO AND THEN WITH THAT WE SUGGESTED MOTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. HANSEN SO YOU MENTIONED THE THE ACTION ITEM IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN BRINGING BACK AS THE WORK GROUP PUTS THE PLAN IN PLACE AND YOU IN ACTION WHAT AT WHAT LEVEL WHAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF APPROVAL OR THUMBS UP THUMBS DOWN OR INPUT ON WHAT THESE PLAN ITEMS MIGHT BE? YEP. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TASK. I THINK THE FIRST THING BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVE OF THAT COMMISSION OR THAT IMPLEMENTATION GROUP IS GOING TO BE DOING IS IDENTIFYING PUBLIC CHARGING AND HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT AS A CITY. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM FEEDBACK FROM THE TWO COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS YOURSELVES. SO I THINK THE FIRST TASK AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING THAT MEETING FIRST IS TO GO GO THROUGH LOOK AT THE OPTIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN THE PUBLIC SPACE AND HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AS A CITY FOR EXAMPLE EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES ARE DOING BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THEN KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW WE WANT TO DO THAT IF WE WANT TO BE YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE STREETS CURBSIDE IF WE WANT THAT TO BE IN PUBLIC SPACES SUCH AS PARKS OR CITY YOU KNOW, CITY FACILITIES AND HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OF THAT IF YOU WANT TO JUST HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SEEKING PEOPLE INSTALL THOSE. SO THAT'S SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK THAT I FORESEE US BEING ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS THAT WE TACKLE IS THAT GOT TO THANK BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, MR. MAYOR, I, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A DECENT AMOUNT OF PRESS ESPECIALLY I HAPPEN TO BE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS THE WEEK THAT THERE WAS A COLD SNAP EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT COLD WEATHER AND HOW IT HAS AN IMPACT ON CHARGING VEHICLES. SO I MY QUESTION IS IN LIGHT OF THAT INFORMATION, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IN THIS PLAN THAT WOULD MAKE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT FOR EXAMPLE PRICE PRIORITIZING INDOOR LOCATIONS OVER EXTERNAL OUTDOOR LOCATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE YOU KNOW, ABLE TO STAY AT A CONSISTENT TEMPERATURE, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT'S A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WE WE MAY NOT HAVE HAD LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY THIS INFORMATION DON'T KNOW BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE WHEN I REVIEWED IT SO I WANTED TO JUST BRING IT UP THERE AND ASK THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, LATE BREAKING DATA THAT SUGGEST WE ADD ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE HERE. IT SEEMS WE SO MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I FIRST SEE THAT AS PART OF THE CHARGING DESIGN WHEN LOOK AT THE KIND OF THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF THE FIVE CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WE LOOK AT IN THERE I THINK INTERIOR CHARGING IN THE REALM OF PUBLIC FACILITIES MAY BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING JUST BASED ON THE AREAS WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL THOSE. BUT WOULD YOU LOOK AT MAYBE ENCOURAGING THAT IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS OR, IN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND THEN MAYBE WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT AND LEVERS THAT WE CAN PULL TO TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, FIRST OF ALL THIS IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND APPRECIATE THAT YOU WORK WITH ALL THE GROUPS TO GET THE FEEDBACK AND BRING THIS BACK AND OVERALL SUPPORT IT. I LIKE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT OUR FACILITY IS OF AS POTENTIALLY THE FIRST STEP JUST ONE THING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND A LOT OF THESE ITEMS MAY BE COVERED AT STATE LEVEL LIKE IN BUILDING CODES INCLUDING WELL THE BUILDING CODE WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND WHAT YOU MAY DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BUT ALSO YOU THE STANDARDS FOR THEM AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE CHANGING ON A FAIRLY RAPID BASIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I GUESS MY ONE SUGGESTION TO YOU IS TO THE EXTENT THAT SOME OTHER LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY DOING IT LET'S NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT AND DUPLICATE EFFORTS BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I DO ONE CONCERN AND I HAVE A PLUG IN HYBRID ELECTRIC IS JUST SAFETY PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE IN UNDERGROUND PARKING OR UNDER MULTIFAMILY AND IF ONE OF THESE THINGS CATCHES ON FIRE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT THING OUT FOR A LONG TIME. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HUGE IN THAT BUILDING AND IT'S A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME JUST FROM WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE FIRE. YOU KNOW, THE IN THOSE BATTERIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO JUST I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ON MY MIND THAT THEY MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT IN ADDRESSING ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE WITH THOSE. ABSOLUTELY SURE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER, TO YOUR TO THE SECOND POINT ABOUT THE FIRE. YES, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT ABOUT STORAGE A BATTERY IS NOT A THING AND SOME PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS WORK WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY THEM IN THE LOOP AS WE LOOK INTO SOME OF THOSE CHARGING DESIGN STANDARDS. I'M BLANKING ON YOUR FIRST COMMENT RIGHT NOW. YOUR FIRST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO RESPOND TO ALL I YES. AS FAR AS COORDINATING OUR WORK WITH OTHER OTHER OTHER WORK THAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S A GREAT POINT AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S GOING ON AT THE FEDERAL AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO YEAH, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS NOT AS YOU SAID DUPLICATE THAT SAME WORK BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLUGGED IN TO WHAT IS CURRENT SO THAT WE CAN REACT THAT I KNOW A STAFF THAT I'M INVOLVED AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT MESSAGE AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT OTHER GROUPS SO YOU KNOW TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M UP TO DATE ON IS CURRENTLY GOING ON AT THOSE DIFFERENT LEVELS SO WE AREN'T REINVENTING THE WHEEL AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT OUR WORK YOU KNOW COMPLEMENTS THAT WORK IS ALREADY BEING DONE IN NOT DOING DUPLICATING THAT WORK. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON PLEASE. SORRY I MY APOLOGIES. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE REGARDS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES I'M IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER AGAINST PROGRESS BUT I DO LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY I TO SEE US MOVE INTO THE FUTURE IN MANY OTHER WAYS HOWEVER IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I HAVE LEARNED A BIG COMPANY SAYING FORD HERDS HAVE CANCELED THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLE PROGRAMS, RIDE LOSSES INTO THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND I QUESTION HOW CAN THE CITY BE PLANNING ON INSTALLING ANY INTEREST STRUCTURE OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT IS NOT BEING FEASIBLE BY COMPANIES SUCH AS FORD AND HERTZ AND PERHAPS OTHERS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT YET SO MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE BE PLANNING ON INSTALLING AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR IT? AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHEN HAS EVER A GOVERNMENT OF ANY HAS PROVIDED FUEL FOR THE POPULATION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AND THIS IS WHAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING RAIL ELECTRIC FUEL, ELECTRICITY FOR VEHICLES TO BE CHARGED. SO TO ME I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BE LOOKING AT PERHAPS TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW BUT TO BE INVESTING HEAVILY INTO THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY SENSE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER COMPANIES ARE DOING RIGHT NOW SLOWING THEIR PRODUCTION DOWN, ELIMINATE INTO PROGRAMS TOTALLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE GREAT DOING THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EMISSIONS BUT THE WAY THAT WE GET ELECTRICITY IS STILL CALLED FOSSIL FUELS WHEN AND AND AND DESIGN AND NOT RELIABLE IN THIS AREA AND WE EXRIENCE JUST TWO YEARS AGO IN TEXAS TOTAL SHUTDOWN OF ENTIRE CITIES RIGHT SO I JUST WONDER WHY WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER, THE WAY I ENVISION THIS PLAN BEING UTILIZED IS THAT IT PROVIDES US WITH KIND OF A ROAD MAP OF HOW WE WANT TO DECIDE AS A CITY TO MOVE FORWARD SO? I DON'T THINK THE ADOPTION OR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PLAN MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING. I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD CHARGERS TOMORROW. WHAT I THINK IT WILL DO IS HELP US DETERMINE ARE THERE AREAS WHERE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE OR PROMOTE CHARGING AND THEN IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE DO WE WANT TO DO THAT AS A CITY OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE TO ALLOW THE FREE MARKET? SO IF WE SAY WE WANT CHARGING IN THESE AREAS THEN MAYBE WE HAVE A FOR THEM TO COME TO US AND SAY IF THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THAT THEY COULD INSTALL AND THEN WE'RE READY FOR THAT WE CAN REACT TO THAT AND IF SOMEONE COMES TO US AND SAYS HEY WE WANT TO INSTALL CHARGERS, WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING THROW THEM OUT ANYWHERE. WE HAVE A PLAN OR HAVE IT IDENTIFIED A WAY THAT WE CAN ROLL THOSE OUT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT PERSONALLY. AND AGAIN BEFORE ANY INSTALLATION WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE WE BEFORE THIS BODY AGAIN TO YOU KNOW PROVIDE HAVE YOU GUYS PROVIDE YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOU KNOW, APPROVAL OF THAT SO THERE'D BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. BUT JUST TO YOUR POINT ABOUT PROVIDING AND JUST PROVIDING CHARGERS AT THE CITY LEVEL I SEE THIS AS MORE OF A WAY OF HAVING BEING READY TO HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE IF THE MARKET DEMANDS IT. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER COLEMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT MAYOR HAMMERS WISH WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CHANGE AND RENAME IT AND SAY THE ALTERNATIVE VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AS OPPOSED TO THE ELECTRIC ALTHOUGH WE'RE LEADING WITH ELECTRIC SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO KIND OF KIND OF DO THAT. I DO APPRECIATE FACT THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO TRY TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. AND I APPRECIATE AND I KNOW YOU KNOW AND YOU'VE HEARD MY SKEPTICISM ABOUT THIS TIMES AND I'M GOING TO KEEP IT POSITIVE TONIGHT. BUT THE IDEA THAT WE'LL BE FLEXIBLE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PIVOT. YOU KNOW I'M A BIG WATCHER OF THE CAC THEY ARE KNOWN FOR INNOVATION KIND OF A A CONFERENCE THAT THEY HAVE IN LAS VEGAS AND IT'S KIND OF FUNNY. COUNCILMEMBER UP LAST TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ABOUT HYDROGEN AND I GUESS THAT THAT HAS THEY'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS NOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AGAIN TO BRING BACK WITH THIS HYDROGEN PIECE. AND SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THAT ESPECIALLY WHAT WE SAW YOU KNOW IN CHICAGO WITH TESLA AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WERE JUST REALLY CAREFUL AS WE KNOW PUT TOGETHER THIS FRAMEWORK. I DO BELIEVE THIS NEEDS PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO CLIMATE CHANGE AS WE HAVE PASSED A CLIMATE CHANGE EMERGENCY AND SO DOING NOTHING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THING AND THIS IS I THINK THE NEXT BEST STEP FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I CAN SUPPORT THIS. YOU KNOW, THROWING IN THE OTHER I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MOVE THIS ON. I CAN'T REMEMBER WE'VE GOT TO A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD YEAH THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WOULD YOU LIKE ME, MR. MAYOR TO HOLD MY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC LET'S DO THAT. YES. YEAH, VERY GOOD. YOU THANK YOU. ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM MR. HANSEN? ALL RIGHT THEN WHY DON'T WE STICK AROUND, MR. HANSEN AND WILL OPEN UP THIS THIS PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY HERE ON ITEM 4.3 THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN SAME RULES AS OUR PUBLIC ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'LL GIVE EVERYBODY 5 MINUTES. YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN AND WE'LL LIMIT YOU TO 5 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL TRY IT. WE'LL SAVE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE END AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE QUESTIONS AND TRY AND ANSWER THEM THE BEST WE CAN AS WE GO HERE. SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO OUR TO THE PLAN. SO IF YOU WANTED TO STEP FORWARD PLEASE COME ON FORWARD SEE WHICH SIDE OF THE PEN WORKS I'M NOT SURE WHAT AGENDA ITEM THIS IS BUT GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'M HERE TO HELP. IF YOU COULD START BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. OH, BRUCE COLTON. THANK YOU, MR. COLTON AND I I TALKED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER DID MY MY BACHELORS MY MASTER'S AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND I WORKED ON MY PH.D. ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH ALL THE COURSE WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY IN MINNESOTA I WAS THE MANAGER DIRECT A DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY OF CONTROL DATA UNDER WHICH HAD EIGHT METEOROLOGISTS WORKING FOR ME. SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GREEN AND AND I HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THAT BUT I'M LIMITING MYSELF TO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING TONIGHT. I'M HERE TO HELP. OKAY. THIS IS NOT TOPIC THAT YOU VOTE ON REALLY. IT'S NOT WHERE YOUR OPINION TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S OPINION THIS IS A MATTER OF FACT AND I'M SORRY FOR READING OFF THIS BUT I TO JUST FOR TIME'S SAKE THIS IS GOING TO IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE THIS IS GOING TO COST US AND GOING TO COST US DEARLY IS GOING TO COST EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND IF YOUR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT'S STILL COSTING US THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW I BRIEF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AND CITED ACADEMIC DATA FROM ABOUT 50 PAPERS I'M NOT HERE TO GO OVER THAT EXCEPT TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EMBODIED EMISSIONS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THEY RANGE AS FAR AS FAR AS 20 TONS OF CO2 WHICH IS ABOUT AS MUCH THAT'S JUST TO GET THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INTO THE HANDS OF THE CONSUMER. THAT'S AS MUCH AS YOU SPEND ON A LIFETIME OF OF A CONVENTIONAL VEHICLE. SO IT'S ALREADY A NET NEGATIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT BY THE TIME IT'S DELIVERED. OKAY. THE OTHER THING IS ENERGY DENSITY WAS BROUGHT UP HERE A LITTLE BIT. ENERGY DENSITY IS ABOUT 17, 17 TIMES GREATER THAN A GAS POWERED VEHICLE AND YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING WHEN COLD WEATHER HITS THAT ENERGY DENSITY GOES RIGHT TO THE FLOOR AND YOU LOSE YOUR RANGE . BUT I FEEL LIKE KIND OF A SNOWBALL IN MINNESOTA ABOUT THIS TIME IN CHANGING YOUR OPINIONS IN TERMS OF DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BUT REALLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YOU DON'T TO DO ANYTHING I KNOW THAT THE PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THIS SAID WELL WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOU KNOW, APPROVAL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING . WELL, IT'S JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU ON COUNCIL YOU'RE IN THOSE SEATS AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AN THAT'S GOING TO BE SAME ATTITUDE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE PUSHING IT FORWARD. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO THINGS AND AFTER BRIEFING THE PLANNING COUNCIL COUNSEL, THE CHAIRMAN SAID HE SAID THEY WERE ALL LIKE TAKING IN TO WHAT I WAS SAYING IN THE FACTS. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FACTS YOU GET SOME GOOD FACTS OUT OF THAT. BUT HE SAID WELL THIS IS LIKE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THE SOLUTION IS ALL OF THE ABOVE NOT JUST ONE APPROACH. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HYBRIDS VERSUS EVS NO, NO. THIS IS NOT LIKE ALL OF THE ABOVE HERE. THESE ARE POLLUTION. THEY POLLUTION YOU WILL BE POLLUTERS IF YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD YOU SHOULDN'T BE SUPPORTING IT. VEHICLES MAKE YOU THE POLLUTER . YOU DON'T CLEAN THE LAKE BY DUMPING MORE HAZARDOUS WASTE INTO THE WATER THEY SAY WOULDN'T ON THE DAY THAT THEY'RE DELIVERED THEY'RE ALREADY A NET NEGATIVE I'VE SAID THAT ALREADY THIS IS NOT A WELL LET'S ALL VOTE THE MAJORITY WE'LL MAKE IT RIGHT WE'LL MAKE THE ENGINEERING COME OUT RIGHT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THE ENGINEERING IS THE ENGINEERING HEAVY HEAVY VEHICLES ARE WRONG I DRIVE A HYBRID. I LOVE IT. IT'S PERFECT. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HYBRID AND AN EV VEHICLE HYBRID CARS ARE THE RIGHT SOLUTION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPLYING ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THEY ARE NOT SUPPLYING AN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THEY ARE CAPS GREEN MOMENTUM THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE WASTED IN THE PROCESS OF DRIVING THAT'S WHY HYBRID VEHICLES MAKE SENSE THEY'RE CAPTURING THE IN ALL THE ACCELERATION AND THE DECELERATION THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO INTO HEAT AND YOUR BRAKES THEY'RE PUTTING INTO A BATTERY TO BE USED AFTERWARDS THAT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY. THE FACT IS THAT EVERY TIME YOU CONVERT FROM ONE ENERGY TO ANOTHER FROM WATER TO A GENERATOR TO TO A BATTERY BACK FROM THE BATTERY TO GET YOU TO DRIVE CAR YOU LOSE EFFICIENCY. THERE IS A LOSS OF EFFICIENCY . EVERY CONVERSION GOING IN AND COMING OUT YOU LOSE ENERGY THAT'S IN GERMANY THEY HAVE A NEW PHRASE CALLED ENERGY POVERTY BECAUSE WHEN THE LITTLE BOY OKAY I'M OKAY. I'M SORRY MR. HARPER, YOUR TIME IS UP BUT THANK YOU. THANK OPTIMISM WILL NOT FIX THE ENGINEERING. THERE'S A WONDERFUL YIDDISH THE SUN WILL SET WITHOUT YOUR HELP YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS. YOU DON'T NEED TO PUSH. THANK YOU, MR. CARLTON. TIME IS UP. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I THOUGHT YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE EXTRA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME ON UP. NO, YOU GO AND YOU CAN GET SIGNED IN AFTER YOU'RE DONE IF YOU'D LIKE YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND YOU CAN SIGN IN AFTER YOU'RE DONE OH I'M THE NEXT SPEAKER UP IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. COUNCILMEMBERS CITY STAFF I AM HERE TO OF COURSE ADDRESS ITEM 4.3 IN SPECIFIC AND IF I COULD ASK YOU JUST TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD SO GREENBERGER THANK YOU FOR REFERENCE IT IS BULLET POINT ON PAGE 18 OF THE PROPOSAL ON PAGE 269 IN THE AGENDA PACKET PDF AND ITS PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A RECOMMENDATION TO PLACE EV CHARGING STATIONS IN OUR CITY. SO FOR THOSE ON THAT ARE WATCHING IT SAYS AT EXISTING AND PLANNED CHARGING SITES TO PARKS AND OTHER PLANS, THE OTHER BULLET POINTS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS CREATE PARKING TIME, LIMIT POLICY AND IDENTIFY AND PORT ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. I AM UNEQUIVOCALLY OPPOSED TO THE PLAN OF PLACING EV CHARGING STATIONS IN OUR FOR FOUR REASONS ONE SAFETY PART TWO OF SAFETY IS IDENTIFYING THOSE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. NUMBER THREE IS VANDALISM. AND NUMBER FOUR IS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR PARKS? SO SAFETY IS JUST NOT A STELLAR IDEA TO PEOPLE PARKED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHERE. OUR KIDS ARE PLAYING AND OUR FAMILIES ARE PLAYING. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER YOU KNOW WHO THOSE FOLKS ARE IN OUR CALL REPORTING PARANOID BUT I KNOW I DON'T THINK IT IS. HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO BE THERE CHARGING HALF HOUR, 2 HOURS? ARE THEY GOING TO LEAVE THEIR VEHICLE? ARE THEY TO PARK? ARE THEY GOING TO SIT? THEY CANNOT STAND STAND AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE PARKED IN OUR PARKS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT CHARGING? PART TWO IS THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE RELYING ON OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE FORCE TO DO THIS ENFORCEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER CHOICE THERE IS. AND I JUST AND THIS IS TO BLAME OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ALL. I SUPPORT THEM I BELIEVE IN THEM. I TRUST THEM. I'VE BEEN A BLOCK CAPTAIN FOR PLUS YEARS, A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT FOR 34 PLUS YEARS. BUT I WAS ON SEPTEMBER 26 AT 224 IN THE AFTERNOON I SAW TWO MEN DRIVE AND TWO VEHICLES DRIVE INTO RUNNING PARK. THEY BOTH GOT OUT. THEY WERE LOITERING. THEY SAW ME. THEY WENT TO THE OTHER END OF THE PARK. I CALLED 911 BECAUSE IN MY GUT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS IT WAS A DRUG DEAL GONE DOWN. THEY SAW ME. THEY MOVED. UNFORTUNATELY OUR POLICE CALL I HEARD FROM DISPATCH THAT THEY HAD MORE CRITICAL CALLS THAT TIME AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO MY CALL. SO THEY THEY LEFT YOU KNOW NOT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE PLACING THAT EXTRA BURDEN OF ENFORCEMENT ON POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN I EXPERIENCE THIS AND A SUSPICIOUS CAR VANDALISM. COURTS ARE BEING CUT FOR THE COPPER. THERE WAS A STAR TRIBUNE ARTICLE TODAY THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS EXPERIENCING THAT PROBLEM WITH THEIR 70 PLUS PLANNED CHARGERS. THERE IS A SPECIFIC PERSON NORTON IN MINNEAPOLIS WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO CHARGE HIS VEHICLE BECAUSE HE COULDN'T FIND A CHARGER AND THEN WHEN HE WANTED TO USE THE CORDLESS CUT AND IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR PARKS VANDALISM I'M AND FINALLY WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR PARKS? I THINK IT'S FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES WITH THEIR KIDS. IT'S SO CRITICAL THESE DAYS THAT FAMILIES AND KIDS CAN GO TO OUR PARKS, GET AWAY FROM TECHNOLOGY TO ENJOY THE PEACEFUL NATURE AND SURROUNDINGS, THE CHARGING STATIONS I MEAN WE GOT TO AGREE THEY'RE NOT LOVELY AND THEY REALLY DON'T ANY PLACE IN OUR PARKS AND THEN OUR PARKING LOTS ARE NOT LARGE TO BEGIN WITH AND NOW THERE'S A PLAN TAKE AWAY EVEN MORE OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS FOR USERS OF THE PARKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SIT IN CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES. AND REALLY EV DRIVERS THEY'RE AN ELITE GROUP. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD THESE CARS AND SO THAT'S I WOULD JUST LIKE TO YOU TO CONSIDER MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I KNOW I SAID AT LEAST ONE MORE PERSON COMING FORWARD . GOOD EVENING AGAIN IF I YOURSELF PLEASE. MY NAME IS ERIC LONG VENICE AND. I HAVE SPENT THE LAST 25 YEARS IN COMPUTER SECURITY THAT IT WAS INFORMATION SECURITY AND NOW IT'S CYBERSECURITY. APPARENTLY. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE SUPER COMPLICATED COMPUTERS CHARGING STATIONS, VERY SOPHISTICATED COMPUTERS THAT INTERACT. IT'S NOT LIKE PLUGGING US CORD INTO A WALL SOCKET. I CAN PICK AN APP ON MY PHONE AND FIND THE NEAREST CHARGING STATION AND WHETHERT'S OCCUPIED THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S THIS WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE SOPHISTICATED. AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY WHICH DEFINES EVERYTHING FROM WHAT THE SECOND IS TO WHAT A FIRE HYDRANT LOOKS LIKE AND THE NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY CENTER OF EXCELLENCE HAVE A JOINT TASK FORCE ON DEFINING A CYBER FRAMEWORK FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING. AND HAVEN'T SEEN YOUR PLAN. BUT IF IT DOES NOT I WOULD REALLY URGE THAT IT HAVE A SECTION OF SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS THAT DISCUSS THE RISKS ARE WHAT THE TOLERANCE FOR THEM IS AND WHAT OF MINIMUM STANDARDS OF EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE HAVE IDEA THAT IF WE PUT OUR CAR AND OUR CAR IS NOT RISK, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT AT RISK AND SO ON. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU. OTHERS WISHING SPEAK ON THIS ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO. MY NAME'S BRAIN SAVER. I JUST BASICALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I'M WONDERING IF I'M ALLOWED TO SEE BALANCE OF MY 5 MINUTES TO MR. GORDON IF THAT'S. NO, IT'S NOT THAT THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO THAT HERE. WE'RE OKAY. EVERYBODY INSIDE. BUT HE KNOWS A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN I GOT IT. BUT EVERYBODY GETS THAT MINUTE BITE OF THE APPLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I GUESS MY MY ONE QUESTION IS TO JUST BE TOTALLY CLEAR ON I HEARD THAT THIS IS PLANNING ONLY AND BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLAN THAT IT WOULD COME BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC INPUT. IS THAT TRUE? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS INSTALLING IS PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE PHYSICAL OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLANNING? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I ASKED. THAT WAS THE THAT I ASKED EARLIER AND I HOPE YOU HEARD THE QUESTION OR THE ANSWER THAT YES, THIS IS ALL RIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY . HELLO. REBECCA COLEMAN HERE AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO USE MY COMMENT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME COUNTERPOINTS TO THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE HERE RESPECTFULLY DEFINITELY RESPECTFULLY. I AGREE WITH THE ISSUES OF THE POTENTIAL OF THE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, THE THAT CAN RESULT FROM THEM. THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE VERY CONCERNING THOSE CAN LAST FOR LIKE HOURS WITH VERY LITTLE WAY TO PUT THEM OUT. I HEARD CONCERNS RENEWABLE ENERGY IN GENERAL. I HAVE GOOGLED FOR XCEL ENERGY THEIR POWER MIX IN TERMS OF WHAT SOURCES THEY COME FROM IT DOESN'T HAVE MINNESOTA IN SPECIFIC BUT IT HAS UPPER MIDWEST WHERE SOME ARE 69% OF IT IS CARBON FREE 18% OF IT IS COAL 13% NATURAL GAS 28% NUCLEAR 30% WIND 4% SOLAR AND 7% OTHER. I ASSUME THAT'S ENERGY RECLAMATION FROM GARBAGE. THE THING IS THAT WE'RE LIKE WE'RE ALREADY USING RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR 70% OF OUR POWER. I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY GETS IT FROM XCEL ENERGY BUT THIS IS WHAT I COULD FIND QUICKLY. I HEARD THAT THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT WHY WE ARE PROVIDING PARKING AT PARKS FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING WE PROVIDE PARKING AT PARKS FOR GAS CARS ANYWAY AND SORRY. OKAY. AND I FEEL LIKE THE THE I FEEL LIKE THE ANSWER IS NOT TO BE I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES BUT. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT THE BETTER ANSWER IS JUST TRAINS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RELIABILITY OF OUR TRAINS HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO COLD WEATHER ALL THE TIME WHEN I'VE BEEN ON BUSSES WHERE IT'S BEEN SLIPPING AND SLIDING ALL OVER THE ROAD BECAUSE OF ICE AND, I CAN SEE ON THE APP THAT LIKE 70% OF ALL BUSSES IN THE AREA ARE SOME KIND OF DELAYED EXCEPT USUALLY THE TRAINS ARE DOING JUST FINE AND WHEN YOU HAVE TRAINS THAT ARE POWERED BY OVERHEAD ELECTRIC WIRES NOT DEALING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND AND ETHICAL CONCERNS OF LITHIUM MINING AND BATTERY STORAGE AND ENERGY DENSITY IT'S JUST COMING FROM THE OVERHEAD THAT CAN ALSO BE THOSE BENEFITS CAN ALSO BE GAINED BY HAVING TROLLEY BUSSES BUSSES THAT HAVE OVERHEAD WIRES AND THEY PERFORM BETTER THAN IN SEATTLE THEY'VE PERFORMED BETTER IN COLD WEATHER THAN BATTERY BUSSES OR GAS. FROM WHAT I'VE READ I KNOW THAT TROLLEY ARE NOT IN METRO TRANSIT'S IDEAS BUT WHEN YOU LOOK THE RANGE OF BATTERY BUSSES THEY ARE MUCH LOWER COMPARED TO TROLLEY OR IN THE WEATHER WHEN THE COLD WEATHER I FEEL LIKE THOSE COULD BE THE SOLUTIONS THAT OBVIOUSLY NOT THIS BODY DO ANYTHING ABOUT BUT I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE ROAD AND WE WILL HAVE SOME RIGHT OBVIOUSLY I FEEL LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY THE CITY'S JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ACCOMMODATED AND THEY CAN BE A REASONABLE OPTION EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT THE OPTION. THANK YOU. THANK MR. COLEMAN OUT MR. BRILLANT I HEARD THE THE PHONE GAVE A CHIRP I WONDER IF OUR SPEAKER IS READY TO BE IS READY TO PARTICIPATE MR. MAYOR THE CHIRP WAS ACTUALLY ME GRANT PARKER RECOMMENDED AFTER OUR SHUTDOWN THERE THAT I JUST GIVE THE MIC A MUTE UNMUTE SO IF YOU'D LIKE WE COULD CALL ON THAT PERSON ONE LET'S LET'S GIVE THAT CALLER ONE MORE CHANCE FOR THAT AND I'LL DO THAT NOW CALLER WITH THE PHONE NUMBER STARTING WITH 612373 YOUR LINE IS UNMUTED SHOULD YOU WISH SPEAK ON ITEM 4.3 PLEASE DO SO NOW SOMETHING MUST NOT JUST BE LISTENING TONIGHT THAT'S FINE TOO LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON ITEM 4.3 TONIGHT SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD COUNCIL I WILL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY ON ITEM 4.3 AND TURN TO THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION HERE FOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS I I HEARD SOME THE ONLY SPECIFIC QUESTION I HEARD WAS FROM MR. SAVIC ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE WOULD COME BACK TO THE THE COUNCIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, ANY ACTIONS MOVING FORWARD. IS THAT THE CASE? MR. HANSEN YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A POLICY UPDATE. OBVIOUSLY WE'D GO THROUGH OUR ART PRACTICE SO IF IT NEEDED TO GO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. IF IT IS LIKE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE DO ALLOW FOR PRIVATE CHARGING TO BE INSTALLED. SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO INSTALL A PRIVATE CHARGER ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT. SO IF THERE WERE FINAL SAY AND BUILDING PLANS OR OTHER THINGS THAT NEEDED APPROVALS WHETHER IT BE ADMINISTRATIVE OR PLANNING COMMISSION OR COUNCIL THOSE ARE GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCEDURES IF IT WAS A JUST A REGULAR PERMANENT REAL PROCESS IN PLACE AND THEY WERE YOU KNOW PERMIT COMPLYING THAT WOULD JUST BE ISSUANCE THAT WOULDN'T COME BACK BEFORE US ANYTHING THAT LIKE POLICY ISSUES I THINK HOW WE WANT TO HAVE THESE STAGED IN THE PUBLIC REALM THAT'S A DEFINITELY A QUESTION FOR THIS BODY AND THERE WOULD BE A CHANCE FOR ENGAGE AROUND THAT BUT MORE PROCEDURAL THINGS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE STAFF PROCEDURE AS WE NORMALLY DO IT'S A VERY GOOD THANK YOU . AND SO COUNCIL I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HEARD ANY OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK STAFF COULD ANSWER REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC POLICY THAT IS BEING BUT QUESTIONS COMMENTS ABOUT POLICY TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR DO WE HAVE IN THIS REGARDING THE THE CYBERSECURITY PORTION IT AND THAT JUST TRIGGERED MY MIND JUST THE THOUGHT OF JUST DATA ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE WHERE EVERYONE'S A PIECE OF DATA AND PEOPLE ARE MINING IT USING TO THEIR COMMERCIAL PROFIT AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE THAT YEAH THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND WOULD FALL UNDER OUR CHARGING DESIGN KIND OF DOMAIN THAT LAST ONE THERE. SO AGAIN ABOUT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE AS A CITY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE MANAGING THESE SYSTEMS OR IF WE'RE GOING TO PERMIT AND TAKE THESE OUT TO THIRD PARTIES. BUT AS FAR AS SECURITY GOES, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE SET UP AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED A REQUIREMENT OF SOMEONE THAT WAS BEING PERMITTED TO INSTALL THESE IN THE PUBLIC REALM. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT AND ACTUALLY WE DID HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ATTENDED OUR OPEN HOUSE NOVEMBER THAT WERE KIND OF WORKING IN THAT FIELD AND WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. THEY OF BROUGHT UP SOME DIFFERENT THINGS, SHARED SOME FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAD IN SOME OF THEIR VIEWPOINTS. SO I ACTUALLY GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WORKS FOR A COMPANY LIKE THAT SO THAT IS DEFINITELY ON THERE AND THAT WOULD BE FALL IN THAT CHARGING DESIGN REALM. SO ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH MY MY COMMENT ON THIS. I HAVE A LATE 2000S VA PICKUP TRUCK. I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF SWITCHING SOON LIKE MANY PEOPLE I KNOW BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR POLICY BECAUSE CARRY A TARGET WE ALREADY HAVE TESLA CHARGERS RIGHT NOW WHAT IF WE RUN INTO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD IN WITH OUR POLICY IN PLACE THAT COULD CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE THAT WE SEE IN CLOGGING UP THAT PARKING LOT AND INCREASING SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THAT PARTICULAR STORE. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN REASON I'M SUPPORTING THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS A PLAN AND THAT ANY PROJECTS WOULD COME BACK AND WE WOULD HAVE OUR INPUT AND APPROVAL ON IT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT I WOULD REALLY HAVE NOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR TAKE THE LEAD IN DOING THE WORK AND THEN THE CITY PUTTING THE GUIDANCE AROUND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY COMMENT ON THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. ALL RIGHT THIS IS GOING BE GOOD. I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION ACTUALLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT I THINK THAT IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION GOING AROUND NOT ALL OF WHICH IS COMPLETELY ACCURATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER THAT IT IT TELLS YOU THAT THIS IS INFORMATION AND. IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION ON AND DO ANYTHING WITH RIGHT AWAY RIGHT. I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF THIS POLICY BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T START TALKING ABOUT IT WILL BE BEHIND BALL FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF GOING ON THERE. RIGHT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OFF, I AM NOT WEALTHY AND I OWN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE . I BOUGHT A 2018 BMW I3 FOR $21,000. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I FALL INTO LIKE, YOU KNOW, TESLA CATEGORY. I KNOW THAT F-150S FORD F-150 LIGHTNINGS WERE THE PRODUCTION ON THAT WAS CUT HERE IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR BUT THAT'S THE OR THE INITIAL PRICE FOR A FORD F-150 LIGHTNING IS $57,000 UP TO $101,000. SO IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL THAT LUXURY VEHICLES IN A TIME OF INCREASED INFLATION AND PUT PRESSURE ON PEOPLE AND A LACK OF UPWARD MOBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE AVERAGE THE AVERAGE YOU KNOW, INCOME OF A HOUSEHOLD THAT THINGS THAT ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE AREN'T GETTING BOUGHT BUT I DON'T CONSIDER MY 2018 BMW I3 AN EXPENSIVE VEHICLE. I IMAGINE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE PROBABLY SPENDS ABOUT THAT ON THEIR CAR RIGHT. SO SO THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF LIKE DEPENDING ON WHICH STATISTIC YOU WANT TO LOOK AT OR WHICH PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU WANT TO LOOK. THAT'S THE CASE, RIGHT? I THINK THE OTHER THING TO NOTE AS WE TALK ABOUT LIKE WHETHER WE HAVE WHETHER THIS IS EVEN A GOOD IDEA REGARDLESS. RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. MANUFACTURING BATTERIES IS MORE CARBON INTENSIVE THAN MANUFACTURING A GASOLINE POWERED CAR. ABSOLUTELY. BUT UNDER MOST CONDITIONS DRIVING THAT EV CAR IS WAY BETTER. SO ON THE MERIT YOU GET BETTER BENEFIT FROM DRIVING AN IB. MIT HAS A STUDY OUT THIS NOT ME. IT'S NOT MY INFORMATION IS MIT AND I. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE GRAND STATEMENTS THAT WE CITE OUR SOURCES BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT ADDS CREDIBILITY. OTHERWISE I'M JUST OPINING UP HERE. RIGHT. SO NOT FAIR AND IT IS A GREAT, GREAT PORTAL CALLED CLIMATE AT MIT THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION AND I BRING IT UP BECAUSE THE THE THE IRONY OF THIS WHOLE THING IS MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO USE THE THING IN ORDER FOR IT TO DO WHAT IT DOES AND IT GETS AN EXPONENTIAL BENEFIT ON IT. RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LOAD ON A GRID YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF WE CAN PULL A VARIETY OF RENEWABLE SOURCES LIKE XCEL DOES TODAY AND I'M GOING TO THROW NUCLEAR INTO RENEWABLE THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL AS WELL. BUT SINCE MY WIFE IS A NUCLEAR ENGINEER SHE WOULD KILL ME IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT THAT NUCLEAR, SOLAR, HYDRO AND WIND POWER THEY ARE VARIABLE. RIGHT. NUCLEAR POWER IS THE LOAD BASE. SO THE MORE YOU CAN BE PULLING FROM THOSE THAT LOAD BASE OF RENEWABLE AND THE VARIABILITY OF THAT, THE LESS YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER THE OTHER SOURCES AND THE MORE CARS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PULLING EV THE MORE LOAD YOU ARE INCREASING. SO IT IS ACTUALLY THIS LIKE BENEFICIAL THAT HAPPENS. BUT WE HAVE TO WANT TO DO IT. OKAY SO WE COULD TAKE THIS PLAN AND WE COULD WHITTLE IT DOWN AND SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO LOOK AT IT FOR OUR OWN BUILDINGS AND FOR OUR OWN FLEET. I STILL THAT THAT'S A NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE DO FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN CONTROL AND EVERYWHERE WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE MARKET AND THAT'S FINE BY ME. LIKE I'M A MARKET PERSON TOO. THAT'S GREAT. I DO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHIFT DISTRICTS OR OTHER LIKE MECHANMS THAT WE USE THAT ARE IN FACT INFRASTRUCTURE BASED INITIATIVES TO DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF WANT TO INCLUDE EV CHARGING AS PART OF AN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT TIFF IN IN A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. THAT WOULD BE DISCONCERTING TO ME. SO LIKE THESE ARE JUST THINGS THINKING ABOUT AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND NONE OF THEM HAVE TO COME TO FRUITION AND BECOME A THING UNTIL WE HAVE DECIDED ON THEM AS A BODY. BUT I THINK HAVING A POINT OF VIEW ON THEM MAKES SENSE. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS AS LONG AS WE AGREE THAT THAT THAT THIS IS COSTING MONEY AND THAT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTS SHOULD NOT WE'RE SAYING WE SHOULDN'T SUBSIDIZE STUFF. I COULD REALLY I'D BE VERY HAPPY NOT TO HAVE A SUBSIDIZING THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY TO THE TUNE OF $5.9 BILLION A YEAR. SO I COULD SAY THAT AND BE OVER HERE OPINING THAT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE STILL DO THAT RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, LET LET'S LET'S THINK OF LET'S LET PEOPLE IN HERE GIVE US POINTS OF VIEW ON SPECIFIC AREAS AND WE CAN KNOCK THEM DOWN OR TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE AS WE MOVE ALONG. AND I THINK THE INCREMENTAL APPROACH IS GOING TO BE THE WAY TO HANDLE THIS BECAUSE WE WILL NOT KNOW ENOUGH RIGHT AWAY. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY SEE THIS INDUSTRY AND IT'S TECHNOLOGY CHANGE MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF A PLANNING DOCUMENT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER AND MR. MAYOR, IN CASE YOU COULDN'T TELL, I'M SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER I WE'LL JUST TWO SONS I THINK A COUPLE OF COMMENTS HAVE TOUCHED ON IT BASICALLY THINK COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I MEAN YOU SAID IF WE IF WE EVEN IF WE SAID YES TONIGHT WE'RE A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT FROM ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING AND IT'S GOING PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I ALSO AGREE IF WE IF IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE BEHIND I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND BECAUSE ARE CITIES WITH THESE IN PLACE. I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT WHETHER IT'S ACCESS OR THE POSSIBILITY OF FIRE WHATEVER IT IS WE HAVE TEMPLATES TO WORK OFF OF . WE CAN SEE GOOD EXAMPLES. WE CAN SEE BAD EXAMPLES WE CAN OUR WORKGROUP PUT OUR POLICY TOGETHER OUR PLAN TOGETHER BASED ON THOSE AND I HAVE FAITH IN THEM THE NOTION THAT IT WILL TAKE TIME TO DO THIS. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY TO DO THIS ALSO. SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS WE CAN TALK ALL WE WANT WE CAN PLAN ALL WE WANT UNTIL THE THE DOLLAR SIGNS HIT US IN THE FACE AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THIS. DO WE WANT THE PRIVATE MARKET TO SIMPLY TAKE THIS ON ITSELF? DO WE SIMPLY WANT TO PUT A STRUCTURE IN PLACE SO PRIVATE INDUSTRY OR NONPROFITS LIKE, CHURCHES OR SCHOOLS DO THEY WANT TO PUT CHARGING STATIONS FOR THEIR BENEFIT WITHIN THEIR PARKING LOTS THIS PLANNING DOCUMENT IS JUST THAT IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT AND I THINK IT'S A IT'S A POWERFUL PIECE IT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN AN THAT IS IS HERE AND IT'S HERE TO STAY. I MEAN YES, THE I MEAN FORD CUT THEIR PRODUCTION IN HALF BUT THE OF VEHICLES SOLD EVS SOLD LAST YEAR I MEAN WE STILL LIKE A MILLION AND A HALF 1.7 MILLION VEHICLES WERE SOLD AND THAT NUMBER IS NOT GOING DOWN . IT'S GOING UP. AND SO YES, IT'S EVOLVING YES ,THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS I PUT FAITH IN OUR PLANNING GROUP THAT IS GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. THEY HAVE EXAMPLES TO WORK OFF OF . THEY CAN FIND THE BEST WAY FORWARD TO US AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH WE'RE THIS IN GRANITE. WE CAN WE CAN ADJUST AS WE GO. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD. IT'S NOT THE FINAL STEP BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP FOR US TO TAKE THAT'S FAIR EMPLOYMENT. WELL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I'M READY TO PUSH THIS THING ALSO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN ALL RIGHT. BE HAPPY. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ELECTRICAL VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DEALT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ACCEPT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE BUT BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN HERE ABOUT LIKE COLD WEATHER SITUATIONS AND ALL. I JUST WANT POSE I KNOW THAT STAFF SAID WE'D LOOK AT IN THE DESIGN AREA DO WE NEED TO CARVE IT OUT SPECIFICALLY LIKE YOU KNOW IN OUR WHERE IT HAS NEAR-TERM MEDIUM TERM LONG TERM SHOULD WE BE PUTTING SOMETHING EXPLICIT IN THERE IF WE WANT IT TO BE INCLUDED IN THERE I DON'T I'M I'M OPEN BUT I WANTED TO JUST I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU COULD DO WHAT WE COULD DO IS PASS THIS AS AS STATED HERE WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO STAFF TO DO JUST WHAT YOU'VE INSTRUCTED. OKAY. WHICH IS JUST WHAT YOU'VE SAID. OKAY GREAT. RATHER THAN WHAT RATHER THAN TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO THIS ON THE FLY BASICALLY WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID WE'VE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO STAFF TO DO THAT KIND OF THING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SO NOTHING NEEDS TO CHANGE THEN ABOUT THE AMENDMENT WE'LL JUST SEND THE INSTRUCTIONS ALONG. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON HEARING? NONE. COUNCIL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM 4.3 PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION. MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 1 WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION. SO THANK YOU. IF I MAY, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S PREMATURE FOR US TO BE MOVING THIS FAST AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SHOULD BE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE FUTURE. HOWEVER, I IT'S FROM WHAT HAVE LEARNED JUST AS COUNCIL MEMBER THE ALESSANDRA MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE HAD COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE BENEFITS A ELECTRIC VEHICLES COUPLE TAKING CALIFORNIA HAS THE OPPOSITE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO IT. SO IT'S ALL BASED ON THAT I DON'T THINK I THINK OF MOVING TOO FAST PREMATURELY THIS AND THEREFORE I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS AND I THINK YOU JUST DID SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS YOUR COMMENTS AND THANKS FOR YOUR VOTE ON THAT SO PAST FIVE ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK MR. HANSON FOR THIS. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE THIS PROGRESSES MOVE ON ITEM 4.4 IN OUR AGENDA THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT OUR PEN LAKE MANAGEMENT PENN MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK. MR. GREENALL AND MR. JUSTO BACK AGAIN. WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION I THINK EARLIER MONTH AND GOOD CONVERSATION ON THIS AND I THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY MADE A COUPLE OF TWEAKS. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN TURNING IT OVER TO YOU. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND LET'S REAL QUICK A LIGHTNING FAST BRIEF ON WHAT WE WENT IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION. SO THE PEN LAKE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE FRAMEWORK IS IN ITSELF ONLY A PROCEDURE. IT'S JUST A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS THAT WE USE TO GATHER INFORMATION, COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S PUT THE COMMITTEE PATHWAY. THERE WAS A QUESTION LAST TIME ON THE PATHWAY DRAFT THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE IN YOUR PACKET THAT IS THERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED IF ACCEPT THE FRAMEWORK TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THE COMMUNITY GROUP WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS SPRING SOME TIME IF THE FRAMEWORKS PASSED AND WE'LL GO OVER THE PATHWAY TO ENSURE THAT IT'S WHAT WE WANT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD THERE SO WE ARE GOING TO RETURN TO IT WITH COMMUNITY INPUT THE FRAMEWORK ITSELF IT ALLOWS US TO DO ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT. IT SHOULD ALLOW TO DO ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT OVER MANY YEARS. IT'S NOT JUST A SHORT TERM PLAN AGAIN IT'S JUST HOW WE GATHER INFORMATION AND HOW WE PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO A REALLY GOOD, CONCISE, EFFICIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR A FIVE YEAR CYCLE AND THEN THE PATHWAY. AND THAT'S NOT TO BE MISTAKEN WITH THE FRAMEWORK THE PATHWAY IS MUCH MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AS A STANDARD MANAGEMENT IT CONTAINS THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS WHICH WILL BE PRIORITIZING OVER A FIVE YEAR SPAN AND WE'LL RETURN AND KEEP UPDATING AND ADJUSTING BASED ON CHANGING CONDITIONS AND NOW ALLOWS US TO USE MONEY WISELY AND TO REACT AND BENEFIT ECOLOGY AND COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN. AND SO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION IS WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GET A MOTION. I READ IT. I FIGURED YOU COULD READ IT. I I CAN INDEED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNSEL QUESTIONS TO DISTILL MR. GRILL COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR MY MY QUESTION IS JUST AROUND THE CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE LAST TIME I MADE THE COMMENT THAT THE THE DRAWINGS, THE GRAPHS AND EVERYTHING WAS VERY CONFUSING TO ME. RIGHT? AND I HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND READ THIS AND THEN I COULD ASK YOU QUESTIONS AND RECENTLY WE JUST HAD SOME RESIDENTS SOME NEIGHBORS COME AND SAY THEY'RE VERY ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BUT THEY'RE STILL VERY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT AND GET TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE AS WE KICK THIS OFF. YES, NEIGHBORS COUNCILMEMBER GREAT QUESTION. WE ARE PUTTING A HIGH VALUE MARK ON COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. THERE WAS IS A WEIRD MOMENT BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN WE HAD THAT PATHWAY AT THE SAME TIME WHICH SHOULDN'T AGAIN IN THE FUTURE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THESE PATHWAYS WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT TO GAUGE AND HOW WE COULD DO THIS MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK AGAIN THAT'S JUST THE PROCEDURE AND THAT PROCEDURE LAYS OUT AND SAYS YOU NEED TO AT MINIMUM COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT EVERY TIME YOU CREATE A PATHWAY SO AT LEAST WE'LL BE RETURNING BACK AND GETTING THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WHICH HELPS DRIVE OUR MANAGEMENT THE FRAMEWORK, THE PATHWAY THAT WE HAVE NOW WE ALREADY HAVE A REALLY GOOD FUNCTIONING COMMUNITY GROUP I NEED THEIR HELP TO TO COME UP WITH IT SO WE'RE TO COME BACK TO THEM BUT WHAT WE'RE PROUD OF IN THIS IS UNLIKE A LOT OF MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT WILL JUST DO A ONE TIME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THEN COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT YOU KIND JUST HAVE TO LIKE PLAY WITH THAT PLAN FOR A WHILE. THIS ONE SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO IT CONTINUOUSLY SO THAT THAT COMMUNITY ASPECTS ARE ALWAYS INVOLVED. IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THANK YOU FOR THAT CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M CURIOUS IF WE CAN AND IF JACK AND BRIAN WANT TO DO THIS IF YOU WERE TO SUMMARIZE THE GOAL THE CURRENT PATHWAY THAT YOU'VE DEFINED HERE, HOW WOULD YOU IN AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY DEFINED WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO OBTAIN FROM IT IN TERMS OF EITHER OUTCOMES, GOALS, OBJECTIVES? CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT AND I THINK THIS KIND OF GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER WEST . I READ IT AND I GET IT BUT I ALSO CAN'T NECESSARILY SUMMARIZE IT WELL FOR MYSELF AND THAT MEANS HARD FOR ME TO SUMMARIZE IT WELL FOR PEOPLE WHO ASK ME QUESTIONS. SO I'M I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF BULLET POINT YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS A PATHWAY TO THESE OUTCOMES AND AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL WHAT ARE THEY IS THAT POSSIBLE THANKS MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER A GREAT QUESTION IT'S RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE SO EARLY ON IN PEN LAKE IS IS A HARD TERM BUT SOME OF THE MAIN BULLET POINTS IS ONE REALLY FUNCTIONING AND CEMENTING DOWN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NINE MILE CREEK WAS A DISTRICT WHO THIS EXACT SAME TIME IS DOING THEIR OWN MANAGEMENT PLAN SO THAT WORKING IN TANDEM TO IDENTIFY SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN LOOK INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALWAYS VERY EXPENSIVE TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO KICK THAT BALL OFF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES WE CAN APPROACH SOONER THAN LATER AND GET THAT PLANNING PROCESS STARTED. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIG BARRIER TO IT AND ONE OF THE SUREFIRE THINGS THAT POPPED UP IN THE BIOTIC SURVEY WE DID WAS THE EFFECT OF COMMON CARP AND GOLDFISH ON THE WATER QUALITY PATTERN THAT'S PRETTY WELL KNOWN THAT THEY HAVE A IMPACT ON WATER QUALITY. SO TRYING TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT CAN DO FOR MANAGING THOSE BECAUSE FISHERIES WAS A HIGH PRIORITY THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS IT SO THOSE BE THE BIG ONES KICKING OFF THE STRUCTURE PARTNERSHIP WITH NINE MILE AND FISHERIES STARTING TO WORK THE QUESTIONS NEARLY NONE THANK YOU GENTLEMEN DON'T GO FAR WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY ON ITEM 4.4. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE PENN LAKE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.4 THIS EVENING? PLEASE COME FORWARD MAYOR CITY COUNCIL WELCOME HI MY NAME IS LISA MCINTYRE. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE PENN LAKE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK. I'M A RESIDENT ON LOWER PENN AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE PENN LAKE COMMUNITY GROUP THAT WAS FORMED BY JACK DISTEL AS PART OF THIS PROCESS I REVIEWED THE DRAFT FRAMEWORK CAREFULLY AND I'VE EMAILED NEIGHBORS AND I PROVIDED COMMENT AT A MEETING HOSTED BY NINE MILE CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT AS WELL AS DIRECTLY TO MR. DISTEL. MR. DISTEL ENDEAVORED TO RESPOND TO EACH OF MY COMMENTS MOST OFTEN BY MAKING REVISION THAT I SUGGESTED WHERE MY COMMENTS DIDN'T RESULT A REVISION I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY MR. DISTEL AND HIS SUPERVISOR MR. GARRIDO. THEY'VE BEEN VERY WILLING TO DISCUSS A WIDE VARIETY OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE FRAMEWORK AND THE MANAGEMENT WHICH I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH. I'M SENSITIVE THE COMMENTS FROM MY NEIGHBORS AND FROM YOU ABOUT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE DOCUMENT AND I'M HOPING THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT COMPLEXITY ACCURATELY TRUSTING THAT I WAS I'M WITH THE CONTENT AND I THE METHODOLOGY PROPOSED SPECIFICALLY THE REASONED FOR ASSESSING NEEDS AND EVALUATING SOLUTIONS THAT IT SETS FORTH. THUS I SUPPORT THE ADOPTION OF THIS DOCUMENT AS THE PLAN FOR MANAGING PEN LAKE THROUGH WATERSHED DISTRICTS AND THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO REDUCE TOTAL DAILY MAXIMUM LOAD OF PHOSPHORUS REACHING THE MINNESOTA RIVER AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT. I'D ALSO SUPPORT THE PREPARATION OF SEPARATE, SIMPLER PLAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE DOCUMENT DESCRIBING PLAN IN SOME DETAIL FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT GET A SENSE OF WHICH MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE IN THIS MATTER I ASK THE NEIGHBORS WHO AGREE WITH MY COMMENTS AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THIS PLAN THIS TO APPROVE THE FRAMEWORK TO RAISE YOUR HANDS TO OUR TO RAISE THEIR HANDS SO THAT EACH DOESN'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY UNLESS HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE TO RAISE HANDS TO BUT THEY COULD DO THAT TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU AND PROVIDE THIS TESTIMONY IF IT IS MANDATORY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THE FOLKS WHO RAISED THEIR HAND YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE DON'T HAVE TO YOU RAISE YOUR HAND SO THAT IS THAT WILL WORK AS WELL ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK I'M SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET BURNED AGAIN BY TRYING TO GO TO THE GUY AND ON THE PHONE SO WE WILL I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY AND AM 4.4 THIS EVENING COUNSEL AND AS COUNSEL ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING ITEM 4.4? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TOWARDS THE COMMENT, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW MY YEARS OF OF WORKING WITH THIS PARTICULAR AREA THIS HAS JUST BEEN AN AWESOME TO WATCH TAKE PLACE AND JUST SEE THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT AND JUST THE YOU KNOW REALLY IN TERMS OF HOW THIS WHOLE THING WAS PUT, I HOPE THAT THIS IS A MODEL FOR FOR THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE. I JUST REALLY AM IMPRESSED WITH THIS AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD LIKE THIS. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. SO JUST JUST HATS OFF TO THE STAFF ON THIS. CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILMEMBER THE MAYOR. THE ONLY THING I WOULD WOULD IS I WOULD SUPPORT THE THE RESIDENTS RECOMMENDATION FOR OUT A PLAIN ENGLISH PLAN THAT WOULD HELP ME IMMENSELY AND ALSO THEM. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I WANT TO JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING HERE, JUST I KNOW THE THE RESOLUTION IS TO ACCEPT THE PEN LAKE FRAMEWORK, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE PEN LAKE MANAGEMENT PATHWAY FOR 2024 TO 2025 2030 AND HERE AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE DO WE ARE WE PASSING SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS THERE OR ARE WE PASSING ONE RESOLUTION? DOES IT COVER BOTH AND SHOULD THE LANGUAGE REFLECT I'M JUST I LOVE IT ALL AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND I AGREE WE I THINK WE CAN DO WELL TO JUST TO CREATE EXECUTIVE SUMMARIES, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE PATHWAY COME BACK TO US BECAUSE THIS IS A DRAFT SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT SO WE KNOW WE'RE ONLY YOU KNOW, APPROVING OR SUPPORTING THE FRAMEWORK NOT THE PATHWAY AT THIS TIME. MR. SEE COUNCILMEMBER GOOD QUESTION. YOU ARE APPROVING THE FRAMEWORK. THE PATHWAYS WILL BE CERTIFIED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AT EACH SHOWING AND WE WILL FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCEDURE WITH THIS ONE THIS IS JUST A DRAFT AND HOPEFULLY MY PEN LAKE COMMUNITY GROUP WILL HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE AND WHEN WE COME BACK TOGETHER WE'LL MAKE SURE IT IS WHAT WE WANT AND I WILL DO A CLEAN ENGLISH GOOD EASY TO FOLLOW ONE. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. NO FURTHER COMMENT. I LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.4 THIS EVENING. HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION SOME MEMBER DALLESSANDRO YEAH, I'D LOVE THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PEN LAKE MANAGEMENT AS MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIOS TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PAN LAKE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I HOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANKS FOR THE PROCESS GENTLEMEN WELL DONE. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING AS IT MOVES FORWARD THANKS TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO TO TALK WITH US AS WELL. THANKS SO MUCH. THAT WILL WRAP UP OUR HEARINGS AND ORDINANCES FOR THE EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON THAT IN FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS HAD A 5.1 RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING OUR CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT GRANTS FUNDING REVISION AND MR. IS HERE WITH US GOOD EVENING WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I AM HERE TO AS YOU SAID DISCUSS RESTRUCTURE AND REVISION FOR OUR CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT GRANT PROGRAM BEFORE I DOVE IN I JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK ACRONYM GUIDE THE CITY USES A LOT OF THEM. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE GET GOING SO IF WATCHING AT HOME MAYBE TAKE A SCREENSHOT OR SOMETHING SO WE HAVE THIS CASE IS OUR SHORTHAND FOR CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT OUR GRANT PROGRAM BCA IS THE SHORTHAND FOR A CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND RIO OUR RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATION WHICH WE HAVE SEVEN OF BEFORE THE SHORTHAND THERE IS THE PREVIOUS NAME FOR THE RH IT'S WHAT THEY USED TO GO BY THE METROPOLITAN REGIONAL ARTS COUNCIL IS MERAK. WE HAVE BIPOC BLACK INDIGENOUS PERSONS OF COLOR AND THEN LGBTQ A TWO SPIRIT. TWO SPIRIT IS THE NEWEST ADDITION TO THIS THIS IS SOMEONE THAT HAS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE THAT IDENTIFY AS HAVING BOTH MASCULINE AND FEMININE SPIRITS . SO THERE YOU GO. ACRONYMS. BRIEF HISTORY OF OUR CHC PROGRAM THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED ARTS SUPPORT FUNDING SINCE THE 1960S AND SEVENTIES FROM 1994 TO 2010. BLOOMINGTON FINE ARTS COUNCIL DISTRIBUTED THESE FUNDS TO ITS MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS IN 2011. THERE WAS A GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AND IN 2020 AND 21 THIS GRANT PROCESS WAS HEAVILY REVISED TO RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING OFFICE WEIGHED IN WITH EXPERTIZE AND OUR FIRST NON RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATION APPLICATIONS STARTED TO COME IN IN 2023 WE AWARDED OUR FIRST WRITTEN ONTARIO RECIPIENT WITH THIS GRANT SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THIS PROGRAM CURRENTLY FACES AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH JUST THE HISTORY OF CIS CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT THAT TERMINOLOGY AND THE THE LANGUAGE OF THAT THAT HAS BEEN TIED TO OUR BARRIOS FOR NEARLY 60 YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN THE EXCLUSIVE APPLICANTS AND THE RECIPIENTS OF THIS UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY UNDERSTANDABLY THE RIO STRUCTURES RELY VERY HEAVILY ON THIS CASE FOR THERE IS A HISTORICAL PRECEDENT AS TO WHY THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE THAT WE WOULD MAKE IT TO THIS POINT AND THAT THEY WOULD BE RELYING ON THIS UNDER THE CURRENT PROGRAM THE ARIAS AGAINST OUTSIDE APPLICANTS. HOWEVER THE ARIAS THIS VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY BASED ON AGAIN HISTORICAL CONTEXT BUT ALSO THEIR EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENTS THEY'VE PROVIDED ME THE FEEDBACK THAT THE CITY IS SENDING A MIXED MESSAGE IN THERE IN THEIR SUPPORT WITH PROGRAM THAT THE CITY WANTS SUSTAINABLE ARTS PARTNERSHIPS AND YET THEY ARE THREATENED BY THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF FUNDING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM THAT THEY DO RELY ON FOR THEIR SURVIVAL. WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS LONG AND DIFFICULT ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR. WE ARE ALSO IN THE REALITY THAT WE ARE PRESENTATION OF THESE AWARDS AND THIS DISCUSSION A CONTENTIOUS PROCESS WITH CONTENTIOUS OUTCOMES WHICH ULTIMATELY IS JUST A PUBLICLY NEGATIVE VIEW OF ARTS FUNDING. THE ARTS FACE A LOT OF CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW. ADDING THAT TO THE MIX IS VERY DIFFICULT AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS IS AT WE FEAR THE RISK OF REDUCED IN PUBLIC FUNDING OF THE ARTS OVER TIME IF THIS REMAINS A CONTENTIOUS PROCESS. SEATTLE HAS ALWAYS HAD AN ALL VOLUNTEER PANEL AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT THERE IS SOME INCONSISTENCY IN FINANCIAL STATUS BASED ON THIS. NOT EVERYBODY THAT ASKS IS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS PANEL IS A TAX EXPERT OR A FINANCIAL EXPERT EXPERT NOR SHOULD THEY BE FRANKLY TO SERVE ON THIS PANEL. SO IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO SCORE AND RANK ACCURATELY AND ALSO MAINTAIN YEAR TO YEAR EQUITABLE PRACTICE IN THIS CATEGORY. THE CITY DOES ALSO FACE LARGER QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE IN RIO? HOW DOES A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION BECOME AN OREO AND WILL A CURRENT OREO EVER LOSE THEIR STATUS WITH THE AND IF SO HOW? THESE HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED COMPREHEND SIMPLY TO DATE AND I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT THE CRUX OF THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION THAT THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DEFINED OVER TIME. AND FINALLY HERE BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO ALIGN WITH YEAR STRATEGIC PLANNING PRIORITIES IS LIMITED BASED IN THIS CURRENT PROGRAM WE DO HAVE LIMITED OPTIONS TO WELCOME NEW ART ARTS PARTNERS TO THE CITY . SO HERE ARE SOME NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE CLEAR DEFINITION TO THE CITY'S CURRENT AND FUTURE RELATIONSHIP WITH RIOS. WE NEED A REVISED CASTRO WITH THE UMBRELLA GOALS TO FUND FUNDING OF THE ARTS PRESENTED AS A POSITIVE INSPIRATIONAL MESSAGE TO THE CITY. NO OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SUPPORT THE ARTS LIKE BLOOMINGTON DOES THAT SHOULD BE TRUMPETED FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS? I THINK NEEDS TO BE A POINT OF PRIDE FOR THE CITY AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OTHER SHOULD BE COPYING AND REFERENCING IN THEIR OWN SUPPORT THE ARTS THAT IS ALL ABOUT MESSAGING WE NEED TO AVOID MIXED MESSAGING OF ARTS SUPPORT AND CONTENTIOUS PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. SIMPLIFYING THIS PROCESS WILL LEAD TO GREATER ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL COMMUNITIES AND I THINK AS A TARGET WE NEED GREATER SERVICE TO UNDERSERVED HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I HAVE ASKED FOR DIRECT REVIEW OF CHC APPLICATION FINANCIAL DOCUMENTATION BY CITY LIKE FINANCE AND LEGAL AND PRIMARILY THE DOCUMENT REVIEW FOR VALIDITY. I THINK THIS IS JUST A FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A VALID APPLICATION EVEN BEFORE IT GOES TO ANY PANEL IS RANKED IN ANY WAY JUST PASS IT THROUGH OUR EXISTING DEPARTMENTS AND USE THOSE RESOURCES. I'D ALSO LOOK TO INCORPORATE COUNCIL FEEDBACK OR INVOLVEMENT IN THE REVIEW PROCESS EARLIER PUBLIC PRESENTATION POTENTIALLY HAVING ONE OF YOU SERVE ON OUR REVIEW PANEL PANEL ANNUALLY AS PART OF THIS PROCESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE HONOR, THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND RELATIONSHIPS OF THE CURRENT ROWS IN CITY FUNDING AND ORGANIZATION WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY GAINING NEW ARTS PARTNERS. WE NEED TO PROVIDE AN ONRAMP FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE ARIAS THE CITY AND WE WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING A RUBRIC FOR BLOOMINGTON BASED IMPACT DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS WHICH A REQUEST OF OUR PANELISTS THAT HAVE SERVED PRIOR SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT IS A SEPARATION OF THESE GRANT PROCESSES INTO APPLICANT POOLS GRANT NUMBER ONE WOULD BECOME THE RESIDENT ARTS SUPPORT GRANT OR THE ARIAS GRANT TO ADD YET ANOTHER ACRONYM TO OUR POOL. THIS IS A $182,000 ALLOTMENT WHICH IS THE TOTALITY OF THE ALLOTMENT FOR THIS PROGRAM FROM 2019 TO 2022. THIS TO NOT CHANGE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD EXCEPT FOR INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS. THE MAXIMUM AWARD WOULD REMAIN AT 30% OF AN OPERATING BUDGET OR $80,000 WHICHEVER IS LESS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THERE IS ANY LEFTOVER FROM THIS PROGRAM WOULD TRANSFER INTO THE BCA PERFORMANCE SERIES PROGRAMING BUDGET JUST SO BCA HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROGRAM FURTHER ARTS PARTNERS AS AS ABLE THE OREOS WOULD FOLLOW AN IDENTICAL GRANT APPLICATION AND PANEL PROCESS BUT THEY ARE REVIEWED SEPARATELY FROM GRANT NUMBER TWO APPLICANTS. THIS BUYS THE CITY A FIVE YEAR WINDOW TO FURTHER DEFINE AND CLARIFY OREO RELATIONSHIPS TO THE CITY AND IF THERE IS EARLIER COUNCILMEMBER INVOLVEMENT AGAIN BASED ON HISTORICAL PRECEDENT I WOULD LOOK FOR APPROVAL. I WOULD EXCUSE ME I WOULD LOOK FOR HAVING THIS APPROVED ANNUALLY VIA BUSINESS GRANT NUMBER TWO HAS THE WORKING TITLE BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIPS GRANT THIS IS A $40,000 ALLOTMENT WHICH CAPTURES THE BUDGET INCREASES OF THE LAST TWO YEARS TO THE TOTALITY OF THIS PROGRAM. SO THE BUDGET WOULD NOT CHANGE IT'S JUST BEING SPLIT ALSO SET TO FIVE YEARS EXCEPT FOR INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS THE MAXIMUM AWARD AGAIN 30% OF AN OPERATING BUDGET OR $10,000 ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD AGAIN TRANSFER INTO THE BCA PERFORMANCE SERIES. ANYONE MAY APPLY AND RECEI FOR UP TO ALL FIVE YEARS. THERE WOULD BE A DIRECT FOCUS IN AWARDING TO THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLANNING PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE STATED. THIS BUILDS THE CITY A FIVE YEAR WINDOW TO ADD ADDITIONAL ARTS PARTNERSHIPS. NOW THIS IS A BIG ONE AFTER FIVE YEARS ANY MULTI-YEAR RECIPIENT OF THIS GRANT BE CONSIDERED FOR OREO APPLICATION AND STATUS? THIS IS A PROCESS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DEVELOP. WE DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF HOW DOES ONE BECOME AN OREO. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR WINDOW TO TRY TO DEVELOP THAT LANGUAGE AND THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE THESE ARE NEW ARTS PARTNERS WE WOULD BE AWARDED VIA COUNCIL PRESENTATION AND ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WHICH THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY BOTH GRANTS GRANTS WOULD INCORPORATE SIMPLIFY APPLICATION PROCESSES FINANCIAL REVIEW BY THE DEPARTMENTS ANY OTHER PROCEDURAL CHANGES AS APPROVED TONIGHT AND IF APPROVED THE CITY WOULD BE WELCOMING ARIAS ON JANUARY 1ST, 2029. ALSO TO OUR REVIEW PANEL THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE WE WOULD LIKE TO STANDARDIZE THIS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH SIX ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS MADE BY CITY MANAGER THERE WOULD BE A CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE A CREATIVE PLACING PLACEMAKING REPRESENTATIVE, A PARK COMMISSIONER, ONE ADDITIONAL CITY STAFF THAT WOULD ROTATE AND TWO BLOOMINGTON BASED ARTISTS THIS ROLE WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE IN A NON-VOTING MANNER. THEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FINANCIAL REVIEW WOULD BE A PIECE OF THIS AS WELL. AND FINALLY THIS IS OUR PROPOSED TIMELINE THE 24 SUMMARY THERE IS EVERYTHING I'VE SAID TONIGHT ESSENTIALLY OF WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO THIS YEAR IN 2025 WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL GRANTS AND LANGUAGES AND LOOKING AT POTENTIAL OVERHAULS AS NEEDED AGAIN JUST WITH FURTHER INTO OTHER AND OTHER PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES IN 2026 WE WOULD BE HOPING TO HAVE OREO PARAMETERS FULLY DEFINED BY THE CITY AND SHARED GOING INTO THE NEXT TWO YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT CYCLE 2028 IN THAT CALENDAR YEAR WOULD BE WHEN WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING NEW OREOS GOING INTO THAT HOPEFUL DEADLINE OF JANUARY 1ST, 2029 WHICH WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE WELCOMING NEW OREOS TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO WITH THAT I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS FEEDBACK AND WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU MR. BREKKY ALSO QUESTIONS THOUGHTS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS SO I JUST HAVE A FEW AND THEN I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES ASK QUESTIONS AND ALSO IF THEY HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS. SO IF I SAW IN THE SLIDE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH IN THE PACKET WITH THE BCA IN TERMS OF THE MONEY CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW MANY FLOWS FROM EITHER OF THESE TWO GRANTS TO THE BCA WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BLOOMINGTON COUNCIL FOR ARTS OR OR TO BACK TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. YES. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. SO BCA BEING THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND SO INSTEAD OF THAT THERE MAY BE A MIX UP OF B FAC WHICH WAS THE OTHER ONE BUT SO SO THE BCA IT WOULD STAY WITHIN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS BUDGET ESSENTIALLY AND IT WOULD BE USED FOR FURTHER PROGRAMING OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO TAKE ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT THE IT WAS AT 180 OR 82 SOMETHING THAT THAT EFFECT IT WOULD COME THROUGH THAT FIRST GRANT POOL AND THERE'S ANOTHER X AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S THROUGH THAT PIECE. SO THOSE ARE THEN DISTRIBUTED AMONG THOSE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS AND SO LET'S SAY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DISTRIBUTED WHERE. DOES THAT MONEY GO FROM EITHER THOSE TWO POOLS? DOES IT REMAIN THOSE POOLS AND CARRY THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR OR DOES IT THEN CARRY TO THE CITY COUNCILMEMBER AND THE INTENT OF THAT TO BE TO SPEND THAT MONEY WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR ? WELL THINK WELCOMING ADDITIONAL ARTS PARTNERS THROUGH OUR PROGRAMING OPTIONS IN THE CITY SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD MEAN SCHNEIDER THEATER PERFORMANCES BLACK BOX PERFORMANCES PERFORMANCES THAT MAY BE FREE THE PUBLIC WHICH IS ONE OF THE PERSONAL GOALS THAT I HAVE IS IS OFFERING MORE PERFORMANCES. SO IT WOULD STAY WITHIN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS BUDGET. IT WOULD IT WOULD BASICALLY TRANSFER FROM ONE CATEGORY TO ANOTHER JUST INTO A PROGRAMING BUDGET. SO THEN JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION ACTUALLY. MR. OLIVER I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. MARIN COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THE AS MR. BURKE SAID, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS BE AVAILABLE IF THEY AREN'T ALLOCATED FOR OTHER PROGRAMING. I THINK THE QUESTION I HEAR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN ASKING WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FUNDS IF THEY AREN'T ALLOCATED RIGHT. SO IF IF WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL PERFORMANCE SERIES THOSE FUNDS WOULD STAY WITHIN THE BCA FUND BECAUSE THAT'S A SEPARATE OPERATING FUND JUST FOR THE CENTER OF THE ARTS. THEY WOULDN'T COME BACK OUT AT SOME POINT THEY'D JUST STAY IN THERE FOR FUTURE USE OR, GO TO THE FUND BALANCE OR HOWEVER THAT WORKS OUT AT THE END OF YEAR. SO THAT WOULD NOT GO BACK TO THOSE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE ROLLED BACK INTO THE CITY. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION AND THEN I'LL LET MY OTHER COLLEAGUES ASK OTHER QUESTIONS IS THAT YOU KNOW SO I NOTICED HERE THAT IN TERMS OF THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR THIS I HAVE NEVER SEEN OTHER THAN WELL OKAY NOW ONLINE ON THIS ONE SITE I CAN THINK OF ONE OUT OF MY HEAD BUT IT'S USUAL THAT WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTING THIS AND SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MAKES SENSE OR HOW THAT RATIONALE WAS WAS YOU KNOW HOW THAT DID COME TO BE. YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER ALONE IT WASN'T IAN'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS RECOMMENDATION AND THE REASON IS JUST TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE A COUNCIL APPOINTMENT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH A WHOLE APPLICATION AND YOU KNOW INTERVIEW AND SCORING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC MEMBERSHIP OF THE POOL AND SO IT'S REALLY WORKING WITH LIKE THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHICH OF THE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO INVOLVED IN THIS AND JUST STREAMLINING IT THAT WAY. RIGHT. AND THEN WE OUR STAFF KNOWS OUR ARTISTS IN THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. AND SO RELYING ON SOME OF THE RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE PROCESS IT JUST ALLOWS THIS PROCESS TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTHLY THAN THE MONTHS PROCESS IT GOES TAKING TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO COUNCIL APPOINTED SEATS SO WITH THAT BEING SAID GIVEN MY FIRST QUESTION IS THERE ANY CONCERN WITH WHERE THE FLOWS WITH THE FIRST PART AND WITH YOUR YOU KNOW YOU'RE APPOINTING THE SECOND PIECE THERE BNG ANY CONFLICT? I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED WITH THE WAY THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS KNOW CAN BE CONSTRUED OR MISUNDERSTOOD TO HAVE A CONFLICT THERE. YOU KNOW WITH THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I'M JUST THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE STRUCTURE. SURE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, FOR MY OWN PART, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS A CONFLICT THERE. I THINK WHAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO DO IS KNOW THAT IF ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS OR THE SORT OF THE SEATS HAVE SOME SORT OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH A GRANT APPLICANT THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY WHO HAD A CONFLICT. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER MEMBERS ON THE CITY COUNCIL WE OTHER MEMBERS ON THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. RIGHT. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT AVOIDING THOSE KIND OF CONFLICTS UPFRONT. THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON THESE IS STILL GOING TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE FORM OF RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THE WHOLE COUNCIL STILL MAINTAINS THAT AUTHORITY. THAT'S GOOD FOR NOW. OKAY. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR.. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT HOW AN OREO I THINK YOU IT IN YOUR LIKE QUESTIONS AT THE FRONT BUT IN THE BACK IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE PROCESS THAT YOU'LL USE TO DEFINE AN OREO, I WANT TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A COMMENTARY THERE ABOUT LIKE WHAT HAVE WHAT WHAT IS IS THE CRITERIA BY WHICH AN OREO MIGHT LOSE THAT STATUS AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT EXPLICITLY FRAMED OUT BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM ME THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR REVIEW PROCESS OF TRYING TO DEFINE ANSWER THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS SO THE CITY IS CLEAR ABOUT THEIR EXPECTATIONS BUT ALSO I DO NOT FEEL THAT WE CAN SUCCESSFULLY ADD ANYBODY BUT SUCCESSFUL I MEAN SUCCESSFULLY IF IT CAME TO IT IF ANYONE WERE TO BE REMOVED AS AN OREO ,HOW WOULD THAT WORK? THERE'S JUST THERE'S NO PRECEDENT FOR THIS AND SO WE DO NEED A WINDOW OF TIME TO DEFINE AND ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS WITH THAT INCLUDED. GREAT SECOND QUESTION I KNOW THAT THERE ARE LEASE AGREEMENTS OR DO ALL OREOS HAVE LEASE AGREEMENTS IS THAT A CRITERIA THAT BY WHICH WE CONFIRM OREO STATUS OR LIKE CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE OF THE SEVEN THAT WE HAVE HOW MANY HAVE AGREEMENTS TODAY? YOU KNOW, IS IT ALL OF THEM DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEM ETC.? I JUST I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T I WASN'T IT FEELS LIKE ALMOST LIKE AN ARTISAN RESIDENTS KIND OF THING WHICH IMPLIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING SOME PLACE TO STORE AND EVERYTHING. BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT FRAMEWORK EITHER AND AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENTS ARTS ORGANIZATION. SO IF YOU COULD DEFINE THAT FOR ME. I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS BEST AS BEST I CAN TELL TO THIS POINT THE ONE TRUE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF A RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATION IS THAT EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHICH USED TO BE AN ANNUAL PROCESS AND WAS RECENTLY CHANGED TO A TWO YEAR PROCESS BUT THE THE EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENTS AND THEN THE THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT LIKE IN-KIND USE OF FACILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NEGOTIATED AS PART OF THAT PLUS THE HISTORICAL OF THESE GROUPS HAVE BEEN SERVING THE CITY FOR DECADES THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DATE OF WHAT IS AN OREO SO THE THE LEASE AGREEMENTS EXIST FOR ALL SEVEN AND HAVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THE ANSWER TO IT THANK YOU THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL I'M IF IF WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER MR. MAYOR THE IDEA THAT THAT LEASE AGREEMENT BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE'S IT'S THE NO LEASE AGREEMENT WE DON'T CHARGE THEM FOR ANYTHING ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR A GRANT. IT WOULD BE KIND OF SILLY TO BE CHARGING RENT OUT OF THAT SO I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE THAT IN IN THE IN THE TOTAL LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT IN THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION WE'RE MAKING TO THOSE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT A PRICE ON THAT OR IF WE WANT TO WE WANT TO DEFINE IT BY SQUARE OR WHATEVER BUT A CRITERIA FOR BEING A RESIDENTS ORGANIZATION IS THAT THE CITY WOULD SUPPLY X NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF . WHATEVER YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR IN RESIDENTS MIGHT BE A THING THINK ABOUT. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING AND THEN THE LAST THING WAS THE I KNOW THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT THE FORM AND LIKE THE APPLICATION PROCESS BUT I DIDN'T I DON'T KNOW IF IF WE'RE GOING TO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN 2024 IF IF THAT'S A SHORT TERM ITEM AND IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AREAS OF THE FORM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THANK ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO WE DO HAVE DRAFTS TO GO OF THIS EXISTING SPLIT IN THE PROGRAM AND. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN WAS TAKE A DOCUMENT THAT STARTED IN 2011 AND WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF ROUNDS REVISION AND CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MODERNIZED. SO GOING THROUGH AND TAKING TAKING A PART AND REMOVING ANY OF THE REDUNDANCIES THAT EXISTED WITHIN THAT DIGITIZING THE FORM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY SYLLABLE AS A PDF INSTEAD OF PRINTING IT OUT WRITING HAND, SCANNING IT, EMAILING IT BACK TO THE CITY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THOSE THINGS ANYMORE. SO MODERNIZING IT AND THIS IS PART OF ACCESSIBLE AGAIN AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT ANYBODY CAN ACCESS THIS FREELY AND AND SIMPLIFYING OUR PROCESS I ALSO GONE THROUGH AND JUST REDUCED THE NUMBER OF OVERALL QUESTIONS AND NOT CHANGING A LOT OF THE TERMINOLOGY. THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS TO UPDATE THE GRANT LANGUAGE AND OVERHAUL ALL OF THAT BUT OVERALL THE SIMPLIFICATION OF THE FORM AND THE MODERNIZATION OF THE FORM WAS THE GOAL FOR 2024 THE EXISTING ATTACHMENTS HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS PREVIOUSLY. THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL AND THAT WOULD CONTINUE INTO 2024. LAST THING ON THE MODERNIZATION IF I'M AN R.A. I'M ASSUMING THAT MY INFORMATION DOESN'T MOST OF MY INFORMATION LIKE THE APPLICATION INFORMATION HASN'T CHANGED MUCH. ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT IF THEY THE OREO THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO REPEAT THEMSELVES EVERY TWO YEARS OR EVERY YEAR? OKAY GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. MR. RUGGIE. JUST SOMETHING TO ADD REGARDING THE LEASES LEASE ARRANGEMENT. WELL, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT. WE IN THE PAST WITH ART HISTORY YOU DONE A CALCULATION ON IN-KIND FOR SPACE AND OTHER THINGS AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE MORE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH THEM OUTSIDE OF THE CAC PROCESS. BUT THE. SO THERE ARE KIND OF TWO THINGS TO THE ISSUE ABOUT HAVING SORT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT AS PART OF AN ARIA OR RELATIONSHIP. ONE IS THAT SPACE HERE IS AT A IN A IS A PRIZED RIGHT AND WE ALREADY HAVE A CHALLENGE A ACCOMMODATING RPO. SO FOR EXAMPLE BLOOMINGTON SYMPHONY DOING MOST OF THEIR PERFORMANCES AT THE MASONIC CENTER RATHER THAN HERE SCHEDULING FOR THE THEATER AND THE REHEARSAL ROOM AND THE OTHER SPACES IS TOUGH TO DO WITH WITH THE GROWING NUMBER OF AND THE INTEREST IN THOSE AREAS TO GROW AS WELL WHICH IS WHY WE TALKED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING AN EXPANSION OF THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND BACKED FROM THAT WHEN SOME CONDITIONS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT THAT THAT STILL EXISTS THE THE SPACE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS KEEPING OUR ORIOLES HAPPY AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN TERMS OF HOW WE DOCUMENT OUR SUPPORT FOR ARIZONA ARTS ORGANIZATIONS COUNCILMEMBER. BEAMER MY MY QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A LIMIT ON AERIALS OR IS IT GOING TO BE A PROCESS WHERE LIKE ONE COMES IN AND ONE HAS TO GO OUT BECAUSE I CAN SEE IN THE FUTURE ESPECIALLY IF WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE SAME POOL OF MONEY WHERE WE END UP WITH ORIOLES AND WE'RE DRAWING FROM THAT SAME POOL AND WE HAVE THAT SAME CONFLICT OF OVER THE OLD ESTABLISHED AREA THAT'S LIKE OUR GRANT FUNDING THIS IS THE NEW AREA WHERE WE'RE WE'RE AN AREA NOW TOO SO WE GET THAT FUNDING AND SO THAT'S MY QUESTION LIKE IS THERE GOING TO BE A PROCESS WHERE COMES IN ONE GOES OUT YET COUNCILMEMBER COUNCIL SO I REALLY VIEW THIS AS A STARTING POINT THAT WILL WELCOME FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IS THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN SO WE HAVE A PLAN AND SO THAT WE HAVE A WINDOW OF TIME TO FURTHER DEFINE THESE PARAMETERS AND DEVELOP THESE PROCEDURES WHERE THEY DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST. BUT I DO NOT SEE ANY WAY FORWARD WHERE YOU COULD SAY ONE IN ONE OUT WITH AREAS WITH DEFINITE WITH DEFINITIVE TONIGHT OR OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. IT REALLY IS A PROCESS A PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP OVER TIME. I THINK FIVE YEARS IS A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME BUT IT'S ALSO A VERY LONG AMOUNT TIME AND WE DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THE ORIOLES OVER THOSE YEARS. WE DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THE APPLICANTS TO THE NEW PROCESS IF ADOPTED. SO IT REALLY IS A WINDOW TIME JUST TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS. LET THE CITY DO ITS WORK TO DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM FURTHER AND REEVALUATE AS WE GO YOUR FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS I NEED FEEDBACK TO TO OPERATE AND THEN I WONDER IF IT MAKES SENSE JUST TO SET A LIMIT BECAUSE WE KNOW THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO COME BACK YEAR AND ASK IF THEY'RE IN RL THIS IS WHAT YOU GET SO THERE STABILITY OF WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS AND THEN WE KNOW HOW TO BUDGET ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS AND I THINK THAT GIVES US THE THEN TO CONTRIBUTE TO NEW ORGANIZATIONS AND SUPPORT THEM AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW AND THEN HAVE KIND OF STABILIZATION AS THEY BECOME A RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATION SPECIFIC AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE GIVE THESE GRANTS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE OUT ALL OF THE MONEY SO THAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE ARTS. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO CONTINUE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO GET POSSIBLY THE SAME OR LESS THAN WHAT YOU GOT LAST YEAR. SO JUST A FUN. MR. RUBY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'VE HELD THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS BASICALLY FLAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND SO THEIR COSTS HAVE INFLATIONARY PRESSURE TOO, RIGHT THAT'S JUST SORT OF HOW IT GOES. THE THING ABOUT THE ARTS IS WE DON'T SEE THEM HAVING SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IN THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS AND THESE GRANTS CAN'T BE MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGET, RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT IS AS IAN CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THEM AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND SEES HOW THEY'RE GROWING BASED ON PARTICIPATION OR NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES WHATEVER THAT IS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR HOW THAT'S DEVELOPING FROM YEAR YEAR AND THEN THE COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS MAKE A CHOICE ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR THE GRANT POOL FROM A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK MAYOR. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS HERE SO 222,000 THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT DID IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY WHAT IS THE MECHANISM BY WHICH THE BUDGET CAN'T CHANGE FOR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A REASON THAT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW IT I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THE COUNCIL BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S REASONS THAT YOU KNOW A FUTURE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CHANGE IT AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TYING THEIR HANDS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER AND I DISCUSSED AS HOW DOES THIS FLEXOR AS NEEDED THE SPIRIT OF THE SPLIT AND THE FIXING IT TO A FIVE YEAR IS ACTUALLY PERCENT OF BUDGET RATHER THAN RATHER THAN I GUESS TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS SO IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE TO SAY WHATEVER 182,000 IS COMPARED TO 222,000 THAT THE X PERCENT AMOUNT OF THE IS FIXED FOR OUR USE AND OF THE BUDGET UP OR DOWN WOULD WOULD STATE IN THAT REGARD RATHER THAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BEING FIXED SO THAT WAS DEFINITELY A CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSED PRETTY HEAVILY. OKAY MR. VERBRUGGE YEAH I WOULD ALSO ADD MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE RIGHT AND SO A FUTURE COUNCIL CAN DO WHATEVER THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE AT THE TIME THAT THEY TAKE ACTION. SO THE YOU KNOW PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO JUST FORECAST THAT FOR THIS FIVE YEAR PERIOD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PREDICTABILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE GRANT POOL AVAILABILITY IS GOING TO BE SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE LAY OF LAND IS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL HEARD LAST YEAR FROM OUR INCUMBENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ESSENTIALLY RELY ON THE GRANTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FOR MANY YEARS IS UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE FUNDING FOR NEW ENTRANTS INTO MARKET RATE AND WHETHER THAT YOU KNOW THAT FUNDING GOING TO PERHAPS THREATEN THEIRS. SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IN IN DESIGNING THIS RECOMMENDATION IS MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PREDICTABILITY AND THERE'S ASSURANCE FOR ARIAS THAT THAT PARTNERSHIP WILL CONTINUE. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION THAT MAKES SENSE THAT. IT'S THE PROJECTIONS THAT GO INTO OUR BUDGET AND SO AND THEN ALSO TO COUNCILMEMBER MILLER'S POINT WITH REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF ARIAS AND TO WHAT CITY MANAGER BRUGUIERE SAID ABOUT IS AT A PREMIUM. I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF GENERATING AND HELPING SUPPORT NEW ONES, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED HAVE THE CAPACITY I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS WE GO FORWARD AND. I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT. I MEAN BECAUSE I THINK WE DID ONE LAST YEAR IT WAS LIKE 5000, YOU KNOW AND IF WE GET EIGHT OF THEM YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO. BUT I MEAN WE JUST DON'T WE JUST DON'T HAVE AND SORT OF ENCOURAGE THIS. SO THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M MOST STRUGGLING WITH IS THE BLOOMING ARTS PARTNER JUST YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BLOCK PEOPLE OUT. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE OR THE CAPACITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO ACTUALLY WELCOME THEM IN MUCH LESS MOVE THEM UP INTO AN RL STATUS WHERE YOU KNOW NOW THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO EVEN GREATER SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON JUST COMMENT ON THAT THIS HAS BEEN SO DISCUSSED CONSIDERED AND THE STRUGGLE THIS IS EQUITY AND WELCOMING ALL OF BLOOMINGTON TO THIS SPACE. HOW DO WE WELCOME EVERYONE AND HOW DOES ONE BECOME AND ARO AGAIN GOING BACK TO THOSE DEFINITIONS THAT THE CITY NEEDS OF WHO IS AN OREO HOW DO YOU BECOME AN OREO? DOES ANYONE EVER NOT HAVE OREO STATUS THE FUTURE WITHOUT THOSE IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO PUT ANY PARAMETERS AROUND THIS BUT WE AS THE PERSON THAT DOES THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS PLACE AND ESPECIALLY SCHNEIDER THEATER I MEAN IT IS IT IS FULL WE ARE WE ARE BOOKED 330 PLUS DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR AND OVER A YEAR OUT AND IT IS VERY TO ENVISION TRYING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL OREO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WITH JUST OUR CURRENT RESOURCES. I DO THINK THAT THE WINDOW OF TIME IS STILL IMPORTANT TO TRY TO DEFINE THESE THINGS. I THINK IT IS A A LIVING DOCUMENT IN A SENSE OF OF WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION AND FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION. HOW DOES ALL OF THAT WORK IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR COME 2029? WHERE DO PEOPLE FIT. I DO ALSO REITERATE THAT FIVE YEARS CAN BE A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME AND ESPECIALLY IN NONPROFITS THE ARTS RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T HAVE CERTAINTY WITH THE FUTURES OF A LOT OF A LOT OF THE NONPROFITS AND SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO IT'S A REALLY THING TO JUST DEFINE CLEARLY AND PUT PARAMETERS ON BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GO OFF OF RIGHT NOW. RUDY THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. WE WANT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS TO BE THE EPICENTER OF ARTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND WE ALSO THAT THERE ARE OTHER VENUES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE IN THE SAME WAY THAT SOME OF THE ORIOLES HAVE ALREADY CHOSEN OTHER PLACES. YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY MAY EXIST FOR NEW ENTRANTS AS WELL AS THEY MAY WANT TO TRY OTHER SPACES FIRST BEFORE THEY BECOME A REGULAR FIXTURE OR REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMPONENT OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CENTER. THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH CREATIVE PLACEMAKING IN THE IN THE SOUTH LOOP AND HOW THAT POTENTIALLY MAY LEAD TO AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP OF DOING COMMUNITY PERFORMANCE ART SOMEWHERE OUT IN WHETHER IT'S OUTDOOR VENUES OR WE DID PARKING RAMPS AND OTHER THINGS OUT THERE BEFORE. SO I THINK YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MARKET IS AND WHAT THE INTEREST IS, I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AREN'T SOLELY RELIANT ON THE SPACE HERE IN THE CENTER. COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU. SO I, I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND I TALKED WITH THE MANAGER EARLIER TODAY SO JUST GOING TO JUST GO THROUGH MY COMMENTS. WE CAN SAVE THE QUESTIONS AND STUFF FOR FOR LATER IN ANOTHER DATE BUT YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT FINANCIAL VIABILITY AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND INCLUSION, I THINK ONE OF THE WORST THINGS WE CAN DO IS THESE ORGANIZATIONS INTO SOME DEPENDENCY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND THEN CUT THE CORD ON THEM ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD WITH EQUITY INCLUSION. SO I THINK WE NEED TO VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT AS WE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THAT COULD REALLY DAMAGE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HISTORY HERE THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE DIALOG THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE CITY AND BLOOMINGTON'S CENTER FOR THE ARTS. I THINK IT'S A UNIQUE HISTORY EVEN IN THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT THOSE FUNDS AND DOLLARS THAT ARE THERE EVEN THERE THAT ENDOWMENT THAT IS THERE. AND SO AS I LOOK TO THAT FUTURE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I TOLD THE MANAGER EARLIER I DON'T WANT TO REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT THIS. I DON'T LIKE WHERE THIS IS WRITTEN RIGHT HERE TODAY BUT I'M STARTING TO COME AROUND ON THIS EVEN AS I SIT HERE TODAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO IS I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR WITH OUR AND VERY TRANSPARENT OUR ART ORGANIZATIONS IN TERMS OF REPORTING AND REPORTING WHAT ARE SPENT IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES AND WHAT MONEY THAT ENDS UP GOING TO THE CITY EACH YEAR SO THAT WE'RE ALL VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THERE THAT. I CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED WITH THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT ALLOCATION NOT A BIG SUPPORTER THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR MONEY IS GOING OUT AND BEING DIRECTED BY THESE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS BUT I TOO CAN LEARN YOU KNOW, AS OLD DOG I'M WILLING TO TO LISTEN TO NEW IDEAS AND THEN AS WE'VE DONE WITH OUR FIRE PENSION OR IF YOU'VE DONE OR WHERE AM WORK WITH ROTARY I'D LOVE TO SEE US TO BEGIN TO START IF IT'S LEGAL OF COURSE LOOKING DOWN THERE AT OUR LAWYER TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO ENDOW OF BOTH THESE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THESE DOLLARS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THESE EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT IN THE CITY MAYBE OFF OF THE CURRENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THEN MOVE IN NEW SO WE CAN SUPPORT THAT THAT FINANCIAL OUR FISCAL VIABILITY OF THIS NEW ORGANIZATION IS AS WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY INCLUSION HOW WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND THEN I THINK I THINK THAT'S IT AND I DO SEE WHY THE CITY MANAGER MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT. I GUESS I PUT THIS DOWN HERE AS A NOTE BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER HAS A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE IN THE ARTS, IN ART AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT EITHER. SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S MAKING COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I JUST WANTED TO I THINK MR. REHBERG KIND OF STATED I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON SO MAYBE I SHOULD NOT COMMENT ON IT BUT BUT I THINK THINK THE THE THE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH SOME OF THESE EMERGING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS TO BE CREATIVE ABOUT WHERE THEY PRODUCE THEIR ART IN THE CITY AND YOU KNOW I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THE SUMMER TIME I WAS TALKING TO ONE ORGANIZATION AND YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE I WAS TALKING WITH MATTHEWS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE BLACK BOX THEATER ISN'T AS WELL PROGRAMED AS THE SCHNEIDER THEATER, FOR EXAMPLE. SO YOU KNOW, FINDING WAYS TO TARGET AND CULTIVATE ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT HAVE USE FOR THE FACILITIES THAT ARE MORE AVAILABLE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. YOU KNOW, COMING WITH OUR RESIDENTS ARTS ORGANIZATIONS FOR EXAMPLE THAT ONLY DOES STUFF FOR THE PARKS IN THE SUMMERTIME WHICH I THINK WOULD BE AMAZING LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO LOOK RESIDENTS ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT THEY HAVE FOOTAGE YOU KNOW SQUARE WITHIN THE WALLS OF THE BFC SO BCA F I GOT IT WRONG SORRY I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. CFA IS THAT RIGHT NOW THAT WE GET IT RIGHT BEFORE OKAY BCA JUST BCA NO F IN THERE. GOTCHA. THANK YOU I COULDN'T COULDN'T AGREE MORE COUNCILMEMBER AND WITH YOU MR. FERRUGIA I THINK THE THERE THERE ARE PLENTY OF THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS CAN LOOK AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE SCHOOLS WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OUR ART OR VENUES ,WHETHER IT'S AT THE MASONIC HOME, WHETHER IT'S AT BIG O MALL WE GOT I MEAN THERE ARE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES THAT WE COULD WE COULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES. I WANT TO GET THIS TO A COMPLETION. I DO WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THE NEED TO SHOUT THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS. THIS IS A THIS IS A POINT OF PRIDE FOR BLOOMINGTON AND WE NEED TALK ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY. AND I, I I FEEL BAD THAT IT WASN'T FELT LIKE THAT IN RECENT YEARS AND I'M THAT ARTS THOUGHT THIS WAS AN ACRIMONIOUS PROCESS IN SOME WAY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ACRIMONY THERE I THINK WE WE WERE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION TRYING TO DO THIS AS BEST WE COULD AND SO THERE'S THIS WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A A PROBLEM. THIS WAS THIS WAS A GOOD A GREAT THING TO HAVE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WE TO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO TRY AND FIND A WAY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND AND I THINK THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE ARE ARE MANAGEABLE. I AGREE WE'VE GOT A SPACE CRUNCH BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER SPACE OPPORTUNITIES. DO WE THESE EMERGING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS FOR EMERGING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE TO SHOW FOR IT AND SO TO LOOK FOR WAYS WE COULD DO THAT TO TO FOSTER FOLKS TO GET GROUPS TO REALLY BRING THEM ALONG AS BEST WE CAN BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S GOT TO REFLECT ALL BLOOMINGTON AND WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT. AND ULTIMATELY THIS IS AS YOU AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS A FEATHER BLOOMINGTON'S CAP AND HAS BEEN FOR 50 YEARS AND WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK AND IRON OUT THAT MIGHT EXIST AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO REALLY MAKE THIS CONTINUE SUCCESS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS COUNCIL WITH THAT I DON I SEEM TO HEAR SOME UNANIMITY AND OR AT LEAST NEAR UNANIMITY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I WOULD I WOULD LOOK FOR I WOULD LOOK FOR A TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS TO THE CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT GRANT PROCESS AS PROPOSED BY THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS STAFF. I WILL DO THAT RELUCTANTLY BUT YES I'LL MOVE IT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LONG AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS TO THE CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT GRANT PROCESS PROPOSED BY THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS DEAF. GO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS MOVE FORWARD AND WHERE WE END UP WITH THIS COUNCIL THE CLOCK ON THE WALL TELLS ME IT'S 903 WE STILL HAVE THREE RATHER LENGTHY THINGS TO GET THROUGH THIS EVENING SO MAYBE YOUR YOUR QUESTIONS, YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR IDEAS IN MIND AS WE LOOK AT THE CLOCK, AS YOU AS YOU CONSIDER SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ON OUR LAST COUPLE ITEMS HERE, ITEM 5.2 IS A CONVEYANCE OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT. OUR PARK AND REC DIRECTOR AND KHATRI IS HERE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING A PROPOSAL TO CONVEY OWNERSHIP OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT. AND FIRST I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME FOLKS THAT I HAVE WITH ME IN THE ROOM THIS EVENING. YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION BUT BULK HARRELSON, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT IS WITH US THIS EVENING AS IS JOHN GIBBS, THE CHAIR OF THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT BOARD. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE MOST TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR THE ORGANIZATION THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE PREMIER PARKS DISTRICTS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND BO LEADS THAT ORGANIZATION EXTREMELY WELL. SO I'M VERY PLEASED HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM AND HAVE THEM WITH US HERE THIS EVENING. SO I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY AS WELL. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY PURCHASED HIGHLAND GREEN'S GOLF COURSE 50 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR AND A FEW OTHER NOTABLE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE RECENT HISTORY IS IN 2012 THE 18 HOLE COURSE WAS CONVERTED TO A NINE HOLE COURSE AND THE DRIVING RANGE CHANGED TO THE CENTER OF THE COURSE SO THAT IT COULD EXPAND IN 2015 AND 2016 THE COUNCIL COMMISSIONED THE HIGHLAND GREENS TASK FORCE. THEY MADE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING OPERATION AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THE CITY OPERATED HIGHLAND GREEN'S GOLF COURSE UNTIL 2020 WHEN IT WAS CLOSED DUE TO COVID 19 THAT YEAR THE CITY COUNCIL COMMISSIONED THE COMMUNITY BUDGET ADVISORY COMMISSION AND THEY SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND CONVERSATIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS SPECIFICALLY WITH THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT FOR THE OPERATION OF HIGHLAND GREEN'S GOLF COURSE WE DID THAT AND IN 2021 WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT TO OPERATE THE GOLF COURSE AND WE JUST COMPLETED IN DECEMBER OF 2023 THE FIRST THREE YEAR TERM OF THAT AGREEMENT. I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT GOING INTO THIS AGREEMENT THE CITY WAS WELL AWARE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT WAS NEEDED THIS GOLF COURSE AND THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED CITY STAFF AND THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT STAFF TO REVIEW THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT WAS NEEDED AND TO BRING A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY SOMETIME AFTER THE FIRST TERM OF THE AGREEMENT. THAT'S PRECISELY WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THE MOUTH OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THREE RIVERS BUT WE OWNED THIS PROPERTY A LONG TIME. TWO ARE WELL AWARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT EXIST THERE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH CLUBHOUSE THE AGE AND THE CONDITION OF THE CLUBHOUSE. IT HAS A LEAKY ROOF. HVAC IS ON THE ROOF CAUSING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES INCLUDING GETTING UP TO THE CLUBHOUSE, STEPPING INTO CLUBHOUSE AND THE RESTROOMS IN THE CLUBHOUSE. ADDITIONAL CAPITAL INVESTMENT CHALLENGES AT THAT ARE SOME PRIVACY AT THE MAINTENANCE SHOP THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM THE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AT THE GOLF COURSE IS ORIGINAL AND THREE RIVERS HAD SOME ISSUES SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WHERE THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY SALVAGE PARTS FROM ONE OF THEIR OTHER GOLF COURSES TO KEEP THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM OPERATIONAL THERE. AS YOU KNOW, WITHOUT AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND A GOLF COURSE, IT'LL LAST ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO ESPECIALLY WITH THE DRY SUMMERS THAT WE'VE HAD . THERE IS A NEW COMPUTER SOFTWARE NEEDED FOR THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, SOME NEW PIECES OF MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT NEEDED AT THE SITE, SOME NETTING, SOME SIGNAGE, FENCING AND BOULEVARD THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF AND THE CONDITION OF THE PARKING LOT IS POOR. SOME OF THE KEY POINTS FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB OPERATING THE GOLF COURSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM GOLFERS NEIGHBORS FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE USED THE FACILITY IN CONSIDERING THE CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY, THE THREE RIVERS WE HAVE DISCUSSED SEVERAL KEY POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THIS EVENING THE DISTRICT WILL MAINTAIN HIGHLAND AS A GOLF COURSE. THE DISTRICT IS WILLING TO INVEST THE NECESSARY CAPITAL FUNDS INTO THE COURSE WITH A COMMITMENT TO THE CITY FOR LONG TERM OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF FACILITY. THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO AFFORDABLE RECREATION AND ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYONE. THE DISTRICT OFFERS LESSONS AND A FIRST TEE PROGRAM THAT REALLY GENERATES GOLF FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND IS A GREAT FEEDER PROGRAM FOR DOYON AS WELL. THE DISTRICT WILL ALSO EXPLORE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE OLD DRIVING SITE THAT HAS SAT VACANT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THE DISTRICT IS ALSO OPEN TO CONSIDERING YEAR ROU ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FOR POTENTIAL WINTER RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. SO TONIGHT WE ARE SEEKING DIRECTION FOR THE POTENTIAL CONVEYOR OF THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY TO THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT THIS TRANSFER IN OWNERSHIP WOULD REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED STAFF IS RECOMMENDING HOLDING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 26TH IN FEBRUARY THE STAFF WOULD DO A WIDE VARIETY OF OUTREACH TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000 FEET WE WOULD DO A LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON SURVEY ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL AND WE WOULD ADVERTISE THAT IN A VARIETY DIFFERENT WAYS INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA EMAIL NEXT DOOR OUR MONUMENT SIGNS AND WE WOULD POST A NOTICE IN SUN CURRENT. SO NEXT WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD JOHN AND OR BO IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS FOR THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. HELLO JOHN. THANK YOU. AND JOHN GIBBS, CHAIR OF THE THREE RIVERS PARK BOARD AND I JUST WANT TO NOT REPEAT ANYTHING AND SAID WE APPRECIATE REPORT AND I HEARD THE ADMONITION MAYOR ON TIME SO ON BEHALF OF OUR GOLF GROUP THEY REALLY HAVE LOVED THE OPPORTUNITY TO REOPEN AND IN A MANNER OPERATE GOLF AT HIGHLAND GREENS AND TWO OF THE THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL AS WELL SO WE ARE VERY, VERY OPEN TO TO MARCHING. WE KNOW IT CAN'T BE RUN WITHOUT CAPITAL BUT THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVING A HALF A DOZEN GOLF COURSES ARE GENUINE ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND SYNERGIES BETWEEN THEM AND SO WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF THE CITY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY OPERATE HIGHLAND GREENS AND WE LOOK FORWARD DOING IT. BOB CARLSON IS THE SUPERINTENDENT AND AND I ALMOST UNDERSTATE HE IS TRULY THE MOST WELL-REGARDED PARK REGIONAL AGENCY PERSON I KNOW OF AND THAT'S NOT TO EXCLUDE AND HE'S GOT TO JUST CERTAIN KIND OF A JOB AND HE'S JUST RECOGNIZED AROUND THE COUNTRY AND WE'RE THANKFUL HIM AND HE'LL ANSWER ANY OLD QUESTION THAT YOU ASK HIM UNHESITATINGLY. SO WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU, CHAIR GIBBS THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US. I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANKS FOR THE ONGOING CONVERSATION BETWEEN OUR TWO ORGANIZATIONS TO TO LOOK AT THIS AS A POSSIBILITY AND CONSIDER CONSIDERING ALL THE FANTASTIC PARTNERSHIPS THAT OUR TWO ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY HAVE. IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND . GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT ,MAYOR. IF I COULD JUST MENTION ONE OTHER THING AND JOHN MENTIONED AS WELL THAT TWO OF THE THREE YEARS THEY OPERATED THE GOLF COURSE THEY OPERATED AT A PROFIT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN 2021 IT WAS A REALLY DIFFICULT YEAR COMING OUT OF COVID AND THEY DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. IT WAS HARD TO HIRE STAFF. THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RUN THE LESSON PROGRAM THAT THEY WANTED. BUT EVEN WITH THE TWO YEARS OF OF POSITIVE BUDGET, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OPERATING THAT FACILITY IS NEVER GOING TO GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT'S NEEDED AT THAT. THAT'S WHY A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS WOULD BE SO VALUABLE TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE WILLING TO INVEST ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO THE GOLF COURSE. SO WITH THAT WE HAVE ACTION REQUESTS OF THIS EVENING TO DIRECT STAFF TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 26TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS I THINK BEEN IT'S BEEN BUBBLING WHILE AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT I THINK OFFLINE A LITTLE BIT. BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY AND TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING IN FEBRUARY REGARDING THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS MAN. I'LL BE QUICK ON ROOSTER ACTUALLY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE TEN ACRES THAT'S VACANT SO THAT THEY COULD PUT IT INTO RECREATIONAL PROGRAM I MEAN SO THAT THAT WOULD NOT THEN BE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING OR OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. IS THAT ACCURATE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? YES, THAT IS CORRECT OKAY. GREAT. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS WHY ONLY THE FENCING ON NORMAN DALE? I THINK ALL FENCING IS OPEN CONSIDERATION. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCIL ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ABOUT LOWMAN SO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY ALWAYS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO WE HAD A STUDY THAT HAD COME THE COUNCIL AND THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS AROUND CONTROL OF THIS FROM A LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE AND A DEMOGRAPHIC PERSPECTIVE AND I'LL CERTAINLY LET JON WORK ME EXTERNAL OF THIS MEETING BE HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BUT I'M CONCERNED WITH THE SOME OF THE REPORTS THAT I SAW DURING THAT LAST HIGHLAND GREEN PIECE AROUND THE DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THAT AND THE CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS OF BLOOMINGTON AND I LOOK AT WHAT YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL WITH THE STADIUM WITH NO NO AND SO IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW IF THIS WERE TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AND FOR SOME REASON THAT HIGHLAND WITH THE DRIVING RANGE IN THIS PIECE AS A FEEDER WE'RE NO LONGER THERE IT WOULD ALSO PUTS A JEOPARDY ARE DUHON FROM A LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE AND SO TO JUST IN SUMMARY MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS I CERTAINLY THINK WE SHOULD GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING BUT YOU KNOW BY GIVING THIS THIS UP LONG WE DO TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE POLICYMAKERS LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD FOUND THEMSELVES WITH THE STATUS OF HAVING TO BUILD TWO DIFFERENT STADIUMS. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT GIVES US A JOINT OR A TWO DIFFERENT DISJOINTED GOLF PROGRAM AND I'M JUST AT THIS POINT I JUST I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS THE WAY THIS IS CURRENTLY. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I FOR ONE THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. I THINK. NUMBER ONE, I LOVE. I LOVE HIGHLAND. IT'S I PREFER IT TO DWAYNE JUST BECAUSE I'D NEVER HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO 18 HOLES AND SO NINE IS PERFECT FOR ME AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT ALSO. I, I DO A LOT OF ANGER MANAGEMENT AT THE DRIVING RANGE SO THAT'S WONDERFUL. SO APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. OBVIOUSLY THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT FOLKS ARE GREAT AT WHAT THEY DO. I ABSOLUTE HAVING BEEN THERE IN 2018 2019 AND THEN IN 2021 ,22, 23 LIKE THERE'S A THERE WAS A MARKET DIFFERENCE LIKE EVEN COVID NOTWITHSTANDING THERE'S A MARKET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXPERIENCE I HAD AT YO WHEN IT WAS RUN BY THE CITY AND THE EXPERIENCE I HAD AS IT WAS OPERATED BY THREE RIVERS AND AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT LIKE I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT WE WLD INCREASE THE CACHET OF THE AMENITY. I THINK WE WILL GET BETTER SERVICES. WE HAVE TALKED A AS COUNCIL THIS IS MAYBE NEW FOR COUNCILMEMBER REEDUS BUT WE'VE TALKED AS A COUNCIL IN THE LAST TWO YEARS SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT OUR ENTERPRISE OUR ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS AND YOU KNOW, BREAK EVEN OR BETTER IS OUR GOAL BUT THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE OFF THE BOOKS AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON AS WELL. SO I'M SUPPORT OF THIS I THINK THIS IS GREAT I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE TO TO MAKE SURE WE IT RIGHT AND THE HEARING WILL HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE'LL GET A LOT OF GOOD IN RESIDENT AND GOLFER IMPACT INPUT ON THAT BUT I'M FOR ONE EXCITED ABOUT IT. I THINK WE WILL GET THE I CAN'T THINK OF A REASON NOT TO DO IT AT THIS POINT IN MY HEAD I RECOGNIZE YEP IT BECOME IT MAINTAINS ITS STATUS AS A RECREATIONAL AMENITY IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO STAY GOLF BUT THAT'S THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE IN IF THEY IF THREE RIVERS CAME TO US AT ONE POINT AND SAID HEY YOU 50 YEARS FROM NOW LIKE GOLF, ISN'T IT? IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ULTIMATE FRISBEE THEN THEY COULD THEY'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT RIGHT AND WE'RE NOT TYING THEIR HANDS TO THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE SO YEAH I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I REALLY AM. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO WORK ON YET ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF BLOOMINGTON WITH THE FOLKS AT THREE RIVERS. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE CONVEY THIS TO THREE RIVERS AND I WANT TO JUST APPLAUD THE WORK THAT THE RIVERS HAS DONE, THEY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC PARTNERS AND I RECOGNIZE THAT AND FULLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THAT IF WE COMPARE THIS TO THE THREE RIVERS IT'S GOING TO STAY WITH THEIR MISSION IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE GREEN SPACE. WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE STEPS OF OUR FOREFATHERS WHO SPLIT ENSURED THAT A THIRD OF BLOOMINGTON REMAINS GREEN SPACE SO THAT WORKS WITH OUR HISTORY OF WHAT WE VALUE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GOING THROUGH AND THE FACT THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY MORE LAND IN BLOOMINGTON. IT'S A LITTLE LESS OPEN SPACES THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AND IF IT WERE ANY OTHER CITY THAT COULD GO BUY UP A FARM FIELD AND BUILD MORE WE COULD. AND SO I AM I'M I'M TORN BECAUSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE GREEN SPACE WE HAVE BUT I DON'T WANT TO TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS BECAUSE IN 30 OR 50 YEARS I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED. WHAT THE WOULD CHOOSE TO DO TODAY AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH IT BUT IT IS A DIFFICULT ONE AND NOT ONE TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT GREAT RELATIONSHIP OR WHAT WE'RE THINKING DIFFERENTLY BUT IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR SURE. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I MEAN TO THE SURPRISE OF EVERYBODY I THINK I SUPPORT THIS 100%. I THINK AS SOON AS WE GET THE GUARANTEE THAT THAT LOCATION WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED INTO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK I'M 100% FOR IT AS YET . COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MENTIONED THE EXPERIENCE FROM PREVIOUSLY NOT TO SAY THAT CITY WASN'T RUNNING IT PROPERLY BUT THE EXPERIENCE PLAYING THERE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS COMPARED TO BEFORE HAS BEEN A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. SO AND YOU KNOW AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COUNCILS THAT LONG I RESEARCHING THIS PREVIOUSLY WHEN I LEARNED THAT HE WAS BEING DISCUSSED I'M 100% BEHIND IT I THINK IT IS A WILL BE GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO PERHAPS USE FUNDS ARE GOING TO THIS PLACE IN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. SORRY FOR ASKING ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION BUT. CAN YOU TALK TO ANY POSSIBLE DEED RESTRICTION THAT WOULD BE AS PART OF THIS CONVEYANCE? MR. RUGGIE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THE DEED RESTRICTION IS A 30 YEAR MAXIMUM RESTRICTION AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS CERTAINTY AROUND THE FUTURE. THE LIKELY METHOD WOULD BE THROUGH SOME SORT OF A ZONING CHANGE FROM IT IS CURRENTLY I THINK THE BIGGEST ASSURANCE THAT YOU HAVE AGAIN IS HAVING THREE RIVERS AS THE OWNER AND THE MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION ASSURES IT WILL STAY SOME SORT OF GREEN SPACE. BUT IN TERMS OF ITS USE THE DEED RESTRICTION IS A 30 YEAR MAX SO SO COUNCIL I THINK AND JUST IN GENERAL THE ONLY DECISION MAKING TONIGHT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT STAFF TO CONTINUE MOVING ON THIS AND IF WE WANT TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 26TH AND FRANKLY I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER TO TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND IS DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING, HOWEVER IT TURNS OUT. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING. SO IF IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TO MAKE THE MOTION ON THIS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION PUT FORWARD. LET'S SEE HOW WE GOT HERE SO WE CAN KEEP THIS THING MOVING HERE. ALL RIGHT, SO I MOVED TO DIRECT STAFF TO HOLD A HEARING ON FEBRUARY 26, 2024 TO SEEK INPUT FROM RESIDENTS AND GOLFERS REGARDING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S POSSIBLE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP CONVEYANCE OF THE HIGHLAND GOLF COURSE PROPERTY TO THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO DIRECT STAFF TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 26TH ON THIS ISSUE OF THE CONVEYANCE OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED I MOTION CARRY IS FIVE ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION VERY GOOD I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION ON THE 26TH THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR MEMBERS THANK YOU ADAM 5.3 ON OUR AGENDA THIS IS DISCUSSION DRAFT PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY LIMITS ON THE LARGER CITY OPERATED ROADWAYS FOR A LARGER ROADWAY SPEED LIMIT. MR. ROBERTS, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS I CAN JUST GET THAT PRESENTATION UP. WE'LL START SOME HISTORY ON THIS. PRIOR TO 2019 THE STATE OF MINNESOTA RESERVED THE AUTHORITY FOR SETTING SPEED LIMITS ON ALL ROADS IN THE STATE AND SO NO AGENCY WAS ALLOWED TO SET THEIR OWN SPEED LIMITS AND THAT'S WHAT'S BLOOMINGTON'S OPERATED UNDER THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY. A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE OCCURRED IN 2019 MINNESOTA CITIES CAN NOW SET THEIR OWN SPEED LIMITS . THAT AUTHORITY DID NOT APPLY TO COUNTIES WHICH IS BIT UNUSUAL BECAUSE AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE NORTH-SOUTH IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ARE UNDER COUNTY AUTHORITY. THIS IS BUSH LAKE ROAD NORMAN DALE FRANCE PENN NICOLLET. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS NOT THOSE ROADS THAT THEY MIGHT EVENTUALLY THAT AUTHORITY BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. SO IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR LOCAL STREETS. THESE ARE LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THE CITY AND THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE'LL LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT IS. WE WON'T POST SIGNS ON EACH OF THESE STREETS. IT'LL JUST BE A SCIENCE POSTED AT THE ENTRY WAY SAYING THE DEFAULT SPEED LIMIT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS FIVE MILES AN HOUR UNLESS OTHERWISE POSTED AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT CHANGES. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE OTHER UNLESS OTHERWISE POSTED ROADWAYS SO THE CURRENT SPEED LIMITS AS I SAID WERE SET BY THE STATE IN GENERAL THE CITY ROADWAYS I HAVE POSTED SPEED LIMITS OF 30 MILES AN HOUR UP TO ABOUT 40 MILES AN HOUR ON SOME OF OUR LARGER ARTERIAL ROADS. SOME OF THE COUNTY ROADS DO GO UP TO 45 MILES AN HOUR BUT THAT AGAIN THAT'S NOT CHANGING RIGHT NOW. AFTER THE COUNCIL MADE ITS DECISION IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER , WE POSTED THE ATTACHED THE MAP YOU'RE SEEING HERE OUT TO THE PUBLIC RECEIVE COMMENTS. THIS IS A DRAFT PROPOSAL OF A SET OF SPEED LIMITS 25 MILES AN HOUR, UP TO 35 MILES AN HOUR FOR CITY STREETS ON THE LARGER ARTERIALS I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH QUICKLY THE METHODOLOGY I USED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND BUT STARTING WITH LOOKING AT A ROADWAY IT'S TYPICAL ACCESS IT SPEEDS VOLUME CAPACITY AND HOW THAT ALL RELATES SO LOCAL ROADS NEIGHBORHOODS LARGELY UNRESTRICTED ACCESS YOU HAVE DRIVEWAYS PRETTY MUCH CONTINUOUSLY ON ANY KIND OF LOCAL STREET. THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ACCESS OF ANY ROADWAY, THE LOWEST SPEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THE LOWEST CAPACITY. THESE ARE TYPICALLY ROADS THAT YOU CAN EXPECT BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AT ANY ANYWHERE ON THOSE ROADWAYS WITH THAT AT 25 MILES AN HOUR YOU MOVE UP TO YOUR COLLECTOR STREETS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE LARGER STREETS IN BLOOMINGTON 102ND STREET THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WE HEARD SOME FEEDBACK EARLIER 106TH STREET, XERXES AVENUE, THESE ARE LARGER ROADS THEY GENERALLY INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS IN TERMS OF SIDEWALKS NOT ALWAYS BUT WE GENERALLY TRY INCLUDE THOSE BIKES ARE FREQUENTLY SEEN ON THESE STREETS. IN FACT MOST OF OUR BIKE NETWORK IS ON THE COLLECTOR STREET SYSTEM SO CAN EXPECT TO SEE BICYCLISTS SHARING THE ROAD WITH CARS PEDESTRIAN AND YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY CROSS STREETS IN OUR PRESENCE ON THEM AS WELL. SO MOVING UP TO ARTERIALS THIS IS 98 STREET LYNDALE AVENUE AMERICAN BOULEVARD, THE LARGEST STREETS IN THE CITY. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE DRIVEWAYS, THEY HAVE ACCESS BUT WE TRY TO RESTRICT WE TRY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS TO MAINTAIN THAT CAPACITY, MAINTAIN THIS SAFETY OF THESE ROADWAYS GENERALLY YOU ALWAYS WANT TO SEE FACILITIES FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS HOPEFULLY SEPARATE FROM TRAFFIC. BUT BICYCLISTS DO USE THE ARTERIAL SYSTEM. PEDESTRIANS CROSS AND THERE AGAIN ALWAYS A PRESENCE AND THEN AT THE UPPER EXTREME YOU HAVE THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM WHERE ACCESS IS SEVERELY LIMITED AND SPEEDS ARE JUST VERY HIGH SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE SAFELY. SO LOOKING AT THIS WE HAVE THIS NICE TRANSITION THROUGH THE CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM THE HIGHEST SPEED CURRENTLY ON OUR SYSTEM NOW THE HIGHEST SPEED ON CITY ARTERIAL IS 40 MILES AN HOUR. I'M PROPOSING TO CAP THAT OUT AT 35 MILES AN HOUR. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT VARY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL KNOW INTUITIVELY IS IS SPEED. SPEED ALWAYS INCREASES PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF CRASHES. IT ALWAYS INCREASES THE SEVERITY AND THIS IS MOST ACUTE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NON-MOTOR USERS IT DOES NOT INCREASE LINEARLY IT INCREASES EXPONENTIALLY THE HARM THAT A CRASH OCCURS TO PEDESTRIANS AND THAT GETS VERY SIGNIFICANT BETWEEN 30 AND 35 MILES AN HOUR ABOVE 35 MILES AN HOUR. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AND IT IT REACHES AN INFLECTION POINT THERE SO YOU'RE YOU'RE DRAMATICALLY INCREASING THE SEVERITY OF CRASHES YOU HAVE AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH FOR MOBILITY. YOU'RE NOT INCREASING OVER 35 MILES AN HOUR THAT THE INCREMENT THE TIME AT 35 MILES AN HOUR IS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER THAN IT IS AT 40 MILES AN HOUR. YOU'RE JUST INCREASING THE RISK TO YOUR NON-MOTORIZED AND SO THAT TREND FOR OBVIOUS REASONS IS TWO FOR AN URBAN AREA WHERE BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS ARE ALWAYS PRESENT IS TO CAP THOSE SPEEDS UP AROUND 35 MILES AN HOUR . SO RUNNING THROUGH WHAT'S PROPOSED THE FIRST CATEGORY THREE ARE ACCESS ROADS. THESE ARE ROADS THAT GO WE HAVE WONDERFUL RECREATIONAL AMENITIES IN THE CITY. THOSE ARE GENERALLY REGIONAL FACILITIES. THESE ARE ROADS THAT LEAD TO REGIONAL FACILITIES. THIS IS LOWER LYNDALE DOWN TO THE RIVER VALLEY OLD CEDAR DOWN TO THE BRIDGE 34TH THINGS LIKE THAT. I THESE ARE ROADS WHERE THERE FREQUENTLY THEY HAVE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC VOLUME THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR BUT THEY'RE ALSO VERY WELL USED BY PEDESTRIANS CYCLISTS. THEY'RE ALSO USED BY VISITORS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. AND SO I THINK A 25 MILE AN HOUR POSTED LIMIT IS SUITABLE ON THOSE ROADS. THE ONE EXCEPTION IS THAT WEST LAKE ROAD IT LEADS TO A PARK BUT IT'S ALSO A VERY NARROW AND CIRCUITOUS ROAD. IT LOOKS LIKE A CART PATH THAT SORT OF EVOLVED THROUGH TIME AND IT IS TECHNICALLY A COLLECTOR STREET BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER AT 25 MILES AN HOUR POSTED OVER THE 30 THAT THE REST OF THE COLLECTOR STREETS ARE TALKED ABOUT. THE COLLECTOR STREET SYSTEM THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THE ROADWAYS. MOST OF THEM ARE ALREADY AT 30 MILES AN HOUR POSTED. MY AIM HERE IS TO MAKE THEM ALL THREE MILES AN HOUR ARE POSTED FOR CONSISTENCY. SO AGAIN 102ND STREET RAMPS IN ARMADALE THAT WE HEARD ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT THAT GO FROM 35 TO 30 JOINING THE MAJORITY OF COLLECTORS STREETS IN THE ROADWAY IN THE SYSTEM THE ONLY THERE'S A COUPLE EXCEPTIONS I WOULD DRIVE IN BLOOMINGTON FERRY I'M PROPOSING TO KEEP AT 35 AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT MOVING UP TO THE ARTERIAL SYSTEM THESE MOST OF THESE ARE CURRENTLY 35 TO 40 MILES AN HOUR. I'M PROPOSING TO CAP THEM ALL AT 40 MILES OR 35 MILES AN HOUR WITH A COUPLE AMERICAN BOULEVARD BETWEEN OLD CEDAR AVENUE AND PORTLAND IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PEDESTRIAN AREAS IN THE CITY SIGNIFICANT PEDESTRIAN USE HEAVY TRANSIT USE. THERE'S TWO BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINES THAT RUN THROUGH HERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE CROSSING THE ROAD GIVEN THE THE FIRST THE PRESENCE OF PEDESTRIANS IN THOSE VOLUMES, I THINK THIS ROADWAY IS BETTE SET TO KEEP IT 30 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THIS SEGMENT. THE OTHER ONE IS LYNDALE AND LYNDALE YOU KNOW HAS EVOLVED TIME AND IT LOOKS IT ACTS AS AN ARTERIAL CARRIES ABOUT 20,000 PLUS CARS A DAY VERY SIGNIFICANT VOLUMES BUT IT LOOKS BY AND LARGE LIKE A COLLECTOR LOTS OF DRIVEWAYS IT'S ALSO AN AREA THAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY WE WANT TO WANT TO FOSTER BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT I THINK IT IS BETTER CAPPED AT 30 MILES AN HOUR IS 35 AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS I DID WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING SPEEDS HOW PEOPLE ARE DRIVING THE ROADS RIGHT NOW AS MOST YOU KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT IS ONLY ONE THEY HAVE INFORMATION DRIVERS USE WHEN THEY'RE SELECTING THEIR SPEED THEY'RE HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY THINGS LIKE WHETHER A ROADWAY CHARACTERISTICS ROADWAY. CARE SERVICES ARE ONE OF THE STRONGEST FACTORS THAT WILL INFLUENCE DRIVER BEHAVIOR AND THIS IS WHERE THE ENGINEERING COMES INTO PLAY WHAT. YOU SEE HERE IN YELLOW ARE ROADS WHERE EXISTING SPEEDS THE WAY A MAJORITY OF DRIVERS ARE DRIVING THE ROAD ARE 5 TO 8 MILES AN HOUR ABOVE WE'RE PROPOSING AS A SPEED LIMIT SO THEY'RE GOING A LITTLE FAST THE IS WHERE THEY'RE TEN MILES AN HOUR ABOVE THE PROPOSED LIMIT AND SO THIS LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF RED AND YELLOW BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ROADS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING PRETTY WELL AMERICAN BOULEVARD FOR INSTANCE ARE DRIVING THAT ABOUT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO THE ROAD SEEMS TO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SPEED THERE'S SOME SEGMENTS THAT WILL DEAL WITH THE SEGMENT BETWEEN FRANCE AVENUE AND ARMIDALE BOULEVARD THAT GOES TO A THREE LANE SECTION WITH THE MINDAT AND SO WE EXPECT SPEEDS TO MODERATE. MY POINT THIS THOUGH IS WE NEED TO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME WHEN WE UPDATE THE SPEED LIMITS WE'LL COME BACK AND SEE HOW THIS IS CHANGED BASED ON THE SPEED LIMIT. MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THIS GIVES US SOMETHING TO WORK TOWARDS AS. WE DEVELOP OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SEEKING FUNDING IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN REDESIGN THOSE ROADWAYS, WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE KNOW WILL GET SPEEDS WHERE WE WANT THEM SO THE EXAMPLE I'M GOING TO USE IS LOWER LYNDALE AND THAT'S BEING REBUILT THIS SUMMER. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE REALLY ZIPPING DOWN THAT HILL TOWARDS THE RIVER BOTTOMS THERE WE'RE GOING INCORPORATE ELEMENTS THAT WE KNOW MANAGE SPEEDS BETTER TO BRING SPEEDS WITHIN THAT 25 MILES AN HOUR POSTED FOR THAT ROADWAY. A COUPLE OTHER EXAMPLES WE SEEKING FUNDING RIGHT NOW FOR SOME CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS OF AUTO CLUB DRIVE. THAT ROAD IS SO APTLY NAMED IT IS BROAD AND PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN IT VERY QUICKLY. WE'RE INCORPORATING SOME CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS. IT WILL ALSO MANAGE TRAFFIC SPEEDS 86 STREET WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER WITH THE PARKS THOSE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLANDS IN THE CENTER THAT MAKE THAT CROSSING SO MUCH SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS WILL ALSO MANAGE SPEEDS ALONG 86TH STREET. SO THIS GIVES US A LONG TERM PLAN START ADDRESSING SPEEDS AS PART OF OUR DESIGN, PART OF OUR PROJECTS. AND THAT LEADS ME TO THE LAST SET OF ROADS HIGHLAND DRIVE IN BLOOMINGTON VERY THESE ARE LATE ADDITIONS TO THE CITY. THEY WERE BUILT MUCH LATER. THEY ARE WIDE AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY MOVING. WE HAVE PLANS FOR THOSE ROADS IN THE FUTURE BUT UNTIL THEN JUST CHANGING THE SPEED LIMIT ON THOSE ROADS ISN'T GOING TO DO IT. I WOULDN'T DO MUCH GOOD AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OKAY AT THE HIGHER SPEEDS UNTIL CAN GET TO THEM. THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ASKED THE STAFF TO STUDY BLOOMINGTON FERRY AND STARTING THAT WORK HIGHWOOD DRIVE WE PUT IN SOME FUNDING APPLICATIONS FOR CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS TO TRY TO BRING THAT DOWN BUT FOR RIGHT NOW TO RETAIN OUR CREDIBILITY WE DON'T WANT TO PUT SPEED LIMITS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO IGNORE I THINK CHANGING THE SPEEDS ON THESE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT EFFECT AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING JUST TO LEAVE THOSE UNTIL WE CAN STUDY THEM TO OTHER PROJECTS TO BRING THOSE SPEEDS INTO A LINE WE WOULD LIKE FOR COLLECTOR STREETS AND THEN THOSE WOULD GO EVENTUALLY TO MILES AN HOUR. A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION SO WE ARE IN JANUARY WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON CODE REVISIONS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT COMING UP WITH FINAL DESIGNS, GETTING THOSE ENTRYWAY SIGNS DESIGNED AND BUILD THE BIG EFFORT IS GOING TO BE IN THE SPRING. IT'S SORT OF STRANGE TO FEEL THIS WAY RIGHT NOW BUT USUALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR OR THE GROUND IS FROZEN, WE'RE COVERED IN SNOW AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO MUCH SIGNAGE. AND SO AS THE GROUND THAWS IN APRIL WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INSTALL THOSE SIGNS WE'RE ALSO PLANNING A LARGE INFORMATION OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT EFFORT THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT THE EFFORT THE BIG PUBLIC FACING EFFORTS ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THE COUPLE OF CODE CHANGES. WHAT WE'RE AND THIS IS A DRIVE BUT WE'RE INTENDING TO GO FORWARD WITH OFFICIAL IT WOULD KEEP AN ENGINEERING FOR OUR CODE CHANGES THE BIG PUSH IS AWARENESS TO RAISE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED IS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT WORK APPROVED THE ADDITION OF RADAR SIGNS THE FIXED RADAR SIGNS WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM COUNCIL TO DEPLOY A COUPLE MORE OF THE RADAR TRAILERS AT SPEED THAT THE POLICE RUN AROUND WITH ALL SUMMER AND REALLY RAISE DRIVER AWARENESS ABOUT THEIR SPEEDS AND WHAT THE POSTED SPEED IS. THIS HAS GOOD RESULTS SO APPRECIATE FOR IT ON THE BUDGET HERE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS EXPENSIVE ABOUT THIS PROCESS IF WE DO IT RIGHT IS UPDATING OUR SIGNAL TIMING . THIS IS ESPECIALLY EFFECTIVE FOR SPEED MANAGEMENT A CORRIDORS LIKE LYNDALE AS YOU PROGRESS FROM SIGNAL TO SIGNAL IF YOU'RE RAPIDLY OUT OF THE SIGNAL IN YOUR NEXT WHEN YOU'RE STOPPING IT READ IT JUST FOR A FEW SECONDS YOU QUICKLY START TO REALIZE YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST ON THAT CORRIDOR AND SO WE TIME THOSE SIGNALS ALONG A CORRIDOR HOW WE WANT PEOPLE TO DRIVE WITH RESPECT TO SPEED AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING MONEY TO DO THAT THIS YEAR AND OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO REALLY MAKE THAT EFFECTIVE ON THOSE ARTERIALS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS AMERICAN BOULEVARD DOESN'T HAVE THE SPEEDING PROBLEMS SEEN IS BECAUSE WE WORK REALLY HARD TO KEEP THAT SIGNAL TIMING UP TO DATE AS YOU PROGRESS EAST TO WEST ACROSS THE CITY LOOKING FOR SOME MONEY FOR POLICE TO SPEND THAT EXTRA TIME TO GO DEPLOY THOSE TRAILERS, WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND RAISE AWARENESS. WE'RE ASKING A COUPLE OF RADAR TRAILERS FOR THEM AND THEN ALSO SOME MONEY TO DO SOME COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION STRATEGIES. OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT'S IT LOOKING FOR DISCUSSION, FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, MR. ROBERTS. COUNSEL DISCUSSION FEEDBACK THOUGHTS . COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR EARLIER IN OUR LISTENING SESSION A COUPLE OF PEOPLE CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT 102ND AND THEN I NOTED THAT I THINK THAT WAS READ ON THERE SO IT SEEMED TO FIT THEIR AND CONCERNS THERE. SO I THINK THAT IS A LOCATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND TAKE A LOOK AT. WE TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL ZONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S ON THE RADAR. THE OTHER ONE THAT I SAW ON NESBITT THAT'S ONE THAT I GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON. I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA SO YOU KNOW IT THE PORTION OF IT BETWEEN OLD SHAKOPEE AND UP TO 102ND IS IN MY MIND VERY RESIDENTIAL I MEAN IT'S MOSTLY DRIVEWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN ONCE YOU GET TO THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN GO NORTH OF THAT YOU SCHOOL AND A COUPLE OF CHURCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE YOU KIND OF MAKE SENSE BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I HEAR MOST ABOUT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO AVOID THE LIGHT AT NORMAN DALE AN OLD SHAKOPEE AND GETTING STUCK THAT SO THEY GO THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO THAT IS ONE I'D ACTUALLY YOU KNOW JUST LOVE OPINION ON IF THAT PORTION OF IT TREATED RESIDENTIAL AT THE 25 MAKES ANY SENSE AND WHAT CHALLENGES THAT MAY POSE AS WELL SO AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION THERE ARE IF I JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE QUESTIONS SO LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS STUFF I WAS LIKE OH DO WE CAN WE EVER PUT FIXED SIGNS UP WITH THE FLASHING WHEN YOU'RE SPEEDING AND WHEN YOU DON'T WE HAVE ONE SO POPLAR BRIDGE ROAD SO I JUST HAPPENED TO DRIVE PAST IT. I WAS LIKE OH WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE SO BUT I THINK THE TRAILERS MAKE MORE SENSE BECAUSE WE CAN MOVE THEM AROUND A LOT EASIER. SO I'M JUST I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IN THERE BECAUSE I DO THINK FROM THE INFORMATION WE HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT THOSE ARE EFFECTIVE AT REMINDING PEOPLE OF IT ESPECIALLY AS WE ROLL OUT TO PUT THAT REMINDER IN FRONT OF THEM IN KEY SPOTS. I THINK IMPORTANT THIS YEAR. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO NESBITT'S ONE THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT'S YOU KNOW I'M IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO IT'S A IT WAS ORIGINALLY A FOUR LANE ROADWAY THAT WE CONVERTED DOWN TO TWO LANES AND IT'S GOT VERY SHOULDERS AND SO IT HAS THE FEELING BEING VERY BROAD AND OPEN AND THERE'S THAT LOVELY GOLF COURSE MINUS FENCE. I GRANT YOU THAT ALONG THERE IS THOSE SPEEDS SIGNIFICANT IN THAT AREA AND A COUPLE ON THAT AND THE IDEA OF CONVERTING IT TO A RESIDENTIAL STREET 25 MILES AN HOUR I INSTEAD AND ONE OF THE REASONS I WOULD SUPPORT KEEPING THAT A HIGHER SPEED LIMIT IS IF THERE'S NO TIME ADVANTAGE TO GOING OUT, WHAT'S TO STOP PEOPLE FROM JUST HEADING UP COLORADO ROAD WHICH BORDERS EDGE OF THE PARK AND MAKES A FAIRLY CONTINUOUS ROUTE AND SO THE REASON WE WANT TO KEEP WE WANT TO KEEP A LITTLE BIT OF INCENTIVE ON THOSE COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL ROADWAYS AND IN SO DOING KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THOSE LONGER THROUGH TRIPS AND THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH CONVERTING THAT TO 25 MILES AN HOUR AS YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY ANY TIME ADVANTAGE. AND SO THEN MY NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE CALLING ME AND WONDERING WHY THERE'S ALL THE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE THE TRICK WITH NESBITT THOUGH IS WE CLEARLY NEED TO MODIFY THE ENGINEERING IS WRONG FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO. IT'S JUST TOO THE INTERSECTION. THEY ALWAYS STOP THERE AT 102ND AS BUT IS SO POORLY COMPLIED WITH THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO DO A ROUNDABOUT AND WE MIGHT GET SOME NEW FENCING IN THERE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT AND SO THE SAME AT 102ND STREET AND OR SORRY NESBITT IN 98 STREET IS VERY BROAD WIDE INTERSECTION ALWAYS STOP SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS BE DONE AS WELL AS JUST SORT OF REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD IN THOSE CURB LINES. I'M NOT SAYING WE RUSH OUT THERE AND DEVELOP A PROJECT TO DO THAT BUT WE INCORPORATE PROJECTS LIKE THAT WITH PMP THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO SPEED MANAGEMENT. THAT'S THE WAY WE GAIN THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK FOR THOSE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FIRST OFF THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ACROSS LIKE MULTIPLE ASPECTS OF OF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT. MR. ROBERTS I THINK I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE KEEP COMING BACK TO THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE ALSO DONE SO THAT WE CAN START TO SEE HOW THEY LAYER ON TOP OF EACH OTHER TO BECOME MOST EFFECTIVE. I, I THINK THE I THINK THE PROPOSALS ARE GREAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE HERE BUT. I THINK I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US TIME AND TIME AGAIN EVEN PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH ME ON MOST THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON THAT THAT KNOW SAFER SPEEDS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE IS A BETTER PLAN AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOOD SUPPORT FOR THIS I HOPE THAT WE DO I IMAGINE THERE'S CONTINUED OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT AND THEN AS FAR AS ROLLING THIS OUT I THINK BECAUSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN IN SECTIONS IF YOU WILL I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BLOOMINGTON LIKE VIDEO IF IT'S A BLOOMINGTON BRIEFING ARTICLE OR WHATEVER I THINK KIND OF TYING IT ALL TOGETHER AND SAYING HERE'S HERE'S LIKE WHAT DOING AND HERE'S HOW IT'S LAYING OUT AND HERE'S HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. IF THAT MAP THAT YOU MENTIONED WILL BE KIND OF THE MASTER MAP, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DIGITIZED AND YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND YOU OR WHATEVER I MEAN THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP REALLY GIVE SOME EDUCATION ON IT. BUT I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US REALLY TALK ABOUT THEM IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER. RIGHT? THAT'S THE WORK WE'RE DOING AROUND OUR PARKS. ARE WE DOING THAT THE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND SCHOOL ZONES WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? WHY ARE WE REDUCING NEIGHBORHOOD SPEEDS? WHY ARE WE REDUCING YOU KNOW, THESE COLLECTOR ROAD SPEEDS AND WHY ARE WE GIVING TRAFFIC THE THE ABILITY TO USE THESE OTHER TOOLS BUMP OUTS, ROTARIES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM? I GREW UP ON THE EAST COAST OR CALLED ROTARIES IN MY PART OF THE WORLD SORRY ROUNDABOUTS . YOU KNOW THE THE THOSE I THINK YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S JUST A FUN CONVERSATION TO HAVE THAT THAT WE'VE YOU KNOW EQUIPPED THE CITY WITH A SET OF THAT COME IN THE COMING TOGETHER REALLY SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO THANKS. THANKS EVERYBODY THE EFFORTS AND THE COUNCILMEMBER AND I THINK I THINK YOU'VE HIT ON IT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT OUR CONSISTENCY AND THEN THE MESSAGING AROUND THE CONSISTENCY. WHEN I THINK ABOUT CONSISTENCY I THINK ABOUT 98TH STREET WHEN YOU GET WEST AND NORMANDY IT GOES UP FROM 35 TO 45 MILES AN HOUR WHICH I JUST HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO NORMAN DALE COMMUNITY COLLEGE IT GOES UP TO 45 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO NORMAN DALE BOULEVARD IT COMES BACK DOWN AGAIN AND I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A CONSISTENT SPEED LIMIT ACROSS WHERE WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING AND THEN THE MESSAGING AROUND IT SO PEOPLE CAN REALIZE IT IF THEY REALIZE OH THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE I SHOULD BE DRIVING 20 MILES AN HOUR OR I'M BY A PARK OR I SHOULD BE SLOWING DOWN AND GOING INTO ONE OF OUR NATURE AREAS. I SHOULD BE SLOWING DOWN THAT KIND OF THING. SO IT JUST BECOMES A A MUSCLE MEMORY KIND OF THING FOR PEOPLE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND IT'S CONSISTENT AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF CLICKS IN WITH CONSISTENCY THAT THAT'S HOW FAST THEY SHOULD BE GOING IN THAT AREA. LET'S REMEMBER MORE AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER BEAMER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY THIS WAS THE BIG PIECE THAT I FELT WAS MISSING THE LAST PROPOSAL. AND SO I APPRECIATE THIS MEETING IS GOING TO DO A LOT TO HELP JUST MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER ESPECIALLY AS MY KIDS GETTING OLDER AND THEY'RE GOING TO START BEING MORE INDEPENDENT AND GETTING OUT ON THOSE ROADS AND RUNNING THEIR BIKES WITH THEIR FRIENDS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ALL SEEING KIDS OUT THERE ESPECIALLY WHEN I GET OUT ON THE ROAD DURING SCHOOL TIMES WHEN THEY'RE GETTING IN OR GETTING OUT AND IT TERRIFIES ME TO SEE KIDS GOING UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS WITH HOW FAST CARS ARE GOING. THE THING THAT I FEEL IS MISSING IS THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE OF IT ESPECIALLY AS WE ROLL THIS OUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ENFORCING THESE NEW SPEED LIMITS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS A CHANGE IN THAT IT'S THAT BIG OF LIKE HEY, WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER AND WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE WHAT WE'VE SAID TO REALLY GET THAT CHANGE GOING BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT ARE GOING TO TAKE TIME AS THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE I'D LIKE TO SEE AS WE PLAN THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THESE CHANGES BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT MORE THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T LET ME WRITE TICKETS TO MY DISMAY AND SO BUT I DO AND DEFER TO THE CHIEF THERE YOUR YOUR QUESTIONS ON ENFORCEMENT AND HOW THEY CAN HOW THEY CAN MAKE THAT WORK HAPPEN. SO I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. I COMPLETELY WITH COUNCILMEMBER THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ENFORCEMENT ON TOP OF THE ENGINEERING TOP OF THE EDUCATION, ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER PIECES OF IT THAT BUT IT CAN'T JUST BE ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ALL OF THOSE WORKING TOGETHER BECAUSE BARRIERS. IT'S YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE COUNCILMEMBER YOUR COUNCILMAN OH THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE THAT I ALWAYS FORGET THAT I THINK I SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH BUT I DON'T THINK THANKS I ECHO DOT COUNCILMEMBER SAL HAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS 98 KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL I MEAN I KNOW HOW WE DON'T HAVE ACCIDENTS THERE EVERY DAY EVERY MORNING AND EVERY AFTERNOON. IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW FAST PEOPLE DRIVE IN THAT SECTION THERE EVEN WHEN THE CARS ARE TRYING TO COME OUT OVER HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. I LIVE JUST TO A FEW BLOCKS A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM THERE AND IT'S IT'S AMAZING HOW SOON IS THE PLAN TO PUT TO PUT UP SIGNS THAT THIS IT'S IN A SCHOOL ZONE THAT YOU SHOULD BE DRIVING AT 20 OR 25 MILES AN HOUR THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ONLY I HAVE REALLY IS IT IS CRAZY TO YOU MR. MAYOR COUNCILMAN RUIZ THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND KENNEDY UNIQUE AND IS SURROUNDED BY COUNTY ROADS. WALCZAK BE ROAD IN THAT AREAS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THAT NORTH-SOUTH NICOLLET AND SO WE CAN'T CHANGE THE SPEED LIMITS ON THOSE ROADS BUT TO THE POINT ABOUT SCHOOL ZONES WE HAVE REACHED TO THE COUNTY THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND SO WE ARE DOING THE APPLICATION RIGHT NOW TO LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS AROUND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS INCLUDING ON THE COUNTY ROADS AROUND KENNEDY. SO THAT WORK MOVING FORWARD I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE FOR YOU. WE'RE JUST DOING THE APPLICATION GET THE MONEY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW THAT THE COUNTY IS IN AGREEMENT AND THEY'VE SORT OF GIVEN US THE THE OKAY TO ADVANCE OUR IDEAS ON THAT. AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE GET IT'S EVEN MORE ACUTE THAN LIKE ON 102ND STREET IS THOSE ARE BOTH ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, THOSE ARE LARGE ARTERIALS TO PUT UP. YOU KNOW THE STANDARD 20 MILES AN HOUR WHEN STUDENTS ARE PRESENT SIGNS WILL HAVE ALMOST NO EFFECT UNLESS YOU HAVE THE POLICE OUT THERE CONTINUOUSLY. THOSE SIGNS WON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT CAN WE DO SOME FLASHERS IN SCHOOLS ONLY 20 MILES AN HOUR WHEN THESE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING ALL THE WAY UP VARIABLE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS LIKE YOU SEE ON INTERSTATE 80 THROUGH WYOMING TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THE SPEED LIMITS DURING SCHOOL TIMES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A RAFT OF OPTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO COST A LITTLE MORE AND ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DO. BUT THEY'LL BE EFFECTIVE SO OH WELL THANK YOU SO MR. ROBERTS SO NEXT UP IS SOME CODE REVISIONS AND LEGAL WORK AND GETTING ALL KINDS OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SOME TIME IN EARLY TO MID-MARCH, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE PLAN SO FAR. YEP. WE'LL GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION THEN WE'LL BE BACK HERE TO LOOK FOR ADOPTION. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MARY. THANK YOU COUNCIL THANK YOU MUCH COUNSEL ITEM 5.4 UNABRIDGED ENDA IS A DISCUSSION OUR 2024 LEGISLATIVE POLICIES MR. SABLE GOOD EVENING. WELL GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS MIKE SABLE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER I WAS PLANNING ON DOING THIS AT 30 OR QUARTER TO 11 SO THIS IS A LOVELY. SO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS COMING UPON US ON FEBRUARY 12TH WE KICK OFF IT WILL END THIS YEAR ON MAY 20TH. SO A VERY SHORT WINDOW OF TIME. THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN ONE OF THESE ITEMS THAT BLOOMINGTON HAS LONG ENJOYED A REALLY ROBUST PARTNERSHIP AND WITH I LEGISLATORS IT'S ALWAYS WORKED IN CONCERT AND THIS YEAR IS NO DIFFERENT. I INHERITED THIS POLICY DOCUMENT FROM PREVIOUS STAFF AND ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY FROM LEGISLATORS LOBBYISTS IS WE LOVE YOUR ROBUST LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND GOT TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR US TO READ AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND SO THIS WAS THE SORT OF THE FIRST VARIATION OF TRYING TO MAKE WHAT WAS ONCE A SIX PAGE REQUEST DOCUMENT INTO A SMALLER PIECE OF A MORE REFINED ASKS BUT THEN HAVING MORE SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL BECAUSE WE DO THESE LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE LEAGUE IN SORT OF WITH METRO CITIES AND THE MUNICIPAL LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION AND SO WELL YOU KNOW WE ARE BY DESIGN CREATURES OF THE STATE AND SO WE HAVE IT'S AN IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST PRESENCE AT THE LEGISLATURE BUT THIS YEAR IS AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER AND BRIEFER AND MORE CONCISE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU PARTICIPATED IN WAS A LEGISLATIVE BREAKFAST THAT WE HAD WITH AREA LEGISLATORS IN EARLIER THIS MONTH WHERE THEY GET TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE THINGS THAT WE HAD HOPED TO ACHIEVE AS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO ALSO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVES ON SORT OF WHAT WAS POSSIBLE. AND SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS LOOKING FOR ADOPTION, THE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES AS DRAFTED AND THEN KNOW THAT AS ISSUES COME UP IN THE LEGISLATURE AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT THERE WERE 3069 BILLS OFFERED LAST YEAR AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT REACH THE SAME NUMBER THIS YEAR BUT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THERE IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MIDCOURSE CORRECTIONS AND SO IF YOU MAKE AN APPROVAL OR ADOPTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM TODAY IT IS ALWAYS EDITABLE BECAUSE THE WORLD CHANGES THE LEGISLATURE IS OFTEN DIFFERENT AND SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY SORT OF A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT IDENTIFIES THE PRIORITIES REALLY AROUND SKI AREAS THAT CITIES WORK IN AND PRIMARILY YOU KNOW BONDING REQUESTS TEND TO BE THE MOST HIGH PROFILE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY TEND TO HAVE THE BIGGEST LINE ITEM OR THE MOST NUMBERS OF ZEROS. AND SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION OTHER THAN I THINK FOLKS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO EDIT AND REVISE BUT WE THINK THAT THIS GIVES US A REALLY CLEAR WAY TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR LEGISLATORS THE PRIORITIES OF BLOOMINGTON AND THEN SET US UP FOR SUCCESS WHEN AS CIRCUMSTANCE IS WARRANT THAT WE CAN ADAPT AND ADJUST ON THE FLY. SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. SABLE AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT I THINK AT THE LEGISLATIVE BREAKFAST THE WHOLE NOTION OF BASICALLY IF EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY IS A PRIORITY AND I THINK THERE THERE IS NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF THAT. AND LET'S JUST SIMPLY LOOK AT LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES PRIORITIES. THERE'S GOT TO BE 250 PRIORITIES THERE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT SCALE THAN WHAT WE ARE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE BETWEEN SO I, I APPLAUD NARROWING OUR DOWN IN OUR SCOPE DOWN A BIT TO TO FOCUS IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTED AND CONCENTRATED MESSAGE AND EFFORT THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IF WE EVER WANTED TO EXPAND WE'VE GOT THOSE 250 POLICIES THAT WE ARE OFFICIALLY PART OF BECAUSE OF OUR ASSOCIATION WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THOSE EXTRA I THINK THERE WAS 100 AND QUARTER FOR THE METRO CITIES AND PROBABLY ABOUT 80 OR SO FROM THE MLC WERE COVERED . BASICALLY WE'RE COVERED IN A LOT OF THINGS AND IT GIVES US THIS DOCUMENT GIVES US FOCUS THOSE OTHER GIVES US FLEXIBILITY AND ROOM TO GROW AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATIVE FOR FOR THE COMING YEAR COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY HAD THE HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO HOST ALBANY TOUR WHEN CAME TO BLOOMINGTON HOSTED SENATOR PAPPAS THEY CAME THROUGH AND SPEAK TO THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORTH FOR FOR BONDING I JUST APPRECIATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE CONVINCE THEM THAT WE MATTER AND INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE IS GOOD FOR THE REGION NOT JUST FOR BLOOMINGTON AND COUNCILMEMBER I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR PINCH HITTING FOR ME FOR THAT TOUR. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU STEPPED UP AND IT WAS IN THE EVENING AND I KNOW IT WAS IT GETS ESPECIALLY AS THEY ARRIVE GENERALLY NOT ON TIME BUT. I APPRECIATE YOU THAT YOU WERE THERE AND REPRESENTED BLOOMINGTON SO WELL SO YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN YOU KNOW ,I THINK IT'S IT'S THE ONLY THING IT'S JUST TWO THINGS. IT'S JUST A PROCESS PIECE AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THAT TODAY MENTIONED THAT TO AND I KNOW THE CUSTOMER WOULD TELL SANDRA HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER YOU KNOW TRYING TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE APPROVING THIS STUFF PRIOR TO GIVING ALL THE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE OTHER PIECE IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A COPY OF THE OLD THE PREVIOUS STUFF TO SEE WHAT DROPPED OFF AND AND AND WHAT'S NO LONGER THERE ANYMORE. SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF POLICIES THAT ARE PUT FORWARD THAT YOU KNOW AND I HAD IT AND PASSED OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THAT HAD ON THERE THAT'S KIND OF MY RECORD TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THAT. SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE THAT RED LINE COPY OF WHAT WE GOT RID OF AND I AGREE COUNCIL MEMBER REGARDING GETTING THESE EARLIER WE COULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER ALTHOUGH THOSE MEETINGS ARE AWFULLY FULL BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION JUST TO TAKE LOOK AT THEM AND AND NOODLED THROUGH THEM A BIT WITH THE COUNCIL AND I DON'T KNOW IT'S TOUGH AND THE REASON WHY YOU KNOW I THINK THE REASON WHY I SAY IT'S TOUGH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER SO IT'S KIND OF TRICKY SO YOU TAKE THAT SO IT'S KIND OF ON ONE HAND ON THIS HAND SO BUT YOU KNOW I WISH WE COULD GET IT EARLIER. YEP. AGREED HOUSE MEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST GOT A FEW ITEMS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE I JUST KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT MULTIPLE TIMES IS THE CONVERSION OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE COSTS OF THAT AND IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE IF THERE'S SUPPORT SOMEWHERE IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR THAT, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO BALANCE ALL THAT COME 2026 AND THAT MAYBE MORE FEDERAL MONEY ANYWAY. SO AGAIN I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE BUT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY THAT I WOULD PUT IN THERE FOR HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I REALLY LIKE THE FIRST ONE THERE THEY THAT INCENTIVIZES PROVIDES AND REWARDS CITIES THAT ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. MY ONLY CAVEAT AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF WITHIN THERE IS I THINK THOSE INCENTIVES WOULD GO TO THOSE CITIES THAT ARE WORKING HARD, REDUCE THE COST TO BUILD THIS SO THAT THE SUBSIDIES CAN FURTHER I MEAN THE STATE FOCUSED A OF AND THEY SET UP A NEW SALES TAX FOR HOUSING SO THEY PUT A LOT INTO AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM DO MORE ON REDUCING OVERALL COST. I MEAN SEVERAL DECADES AGO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE HOUSING THAT PEOPLE COULD AFFORD AND AND NOW YOU WE DO AND THEN THE LAST PART THIS IS JUST A REQUEST I KNOW WE SUPPORT SOME OF THE POLICIES OF THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES METRO AND I'LL SEE ALL OF THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL THAT WOULD MERIT CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL FURTHER FROM THEIR POLICIES BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN CITIES AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU BRING THOSE FORWARD IF THEY'RE GETTING TRACTION IN THE LEGISLATURE JUST TO GET OUR FEEDBACK AND NOT GIVE A BLANKET CARTE BLANCHE, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES. I THINK THE CITY MANAGER MAY KNOW WHERE I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY AREA AND. SO I'D JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE USE YOUR DISCRETION TO BRING THOSE ITEMS BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND LET US HAVE THAT CONVERSATION JUST TO MAKE SURE . SO THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND I WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION IN THE COMMENTS COUNCIL. MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST I JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS AROUND PROCESS SO THE THERE ARE TWO COMMITTEE DEADLINES OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT ARE REALLY CRITICAL ONE IS MARCH 22ND IS WHERE THE POLICY BILLS HAVE TO HAVE HAD A HEARING IN THE COMMITTEE SO THAT IS FOR US A KEY DEADLINE DATE. SO WHAT I THINK WE CAN DO FROM THE STAFF SIDE IS SCHEDULE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE IN ADVANCE OF THE COMMITTEE POLICY DEADLINE AND THEN ON ALSO APRIL 19TH IS THE FINANCE BILLS COMMITTEE DEADLINE. THE HOURS HAVE TO HAVE BEEN HEARD AND SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOKING AT CITY MANAGERS PUT TWO PLACEHOERS FOR MEETING IN THIS BODY IN ADVANCE OF BOTH OF THOSE DATES. I THINK THAT PROVIDES A GOOD ONE A GOOD CHECK IN TO TIMELY WITH THE DEADLINES THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND THEY BUILD THEIR CALENDARS WELL IN ADVANCE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER A QUICK QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS SORT OF FEEL BAD IF YOU DON'T BUT LIKE ARE THE ARE THE BUDGET BECAUSE THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR ARE THE BONDING DOLLARS ALREADY ALLOCATED AT A TOP LINE AS IT IS TODAY SO THAT YOU KNOW WE KNOW LIKE HOUSING HAS THIS MUCH TO ALLOCATE YOU KNOW TRANSPORTATION HAS THIS MUCH TO ALLOCATE OR WHATEVER OR IS IT IS IT ALL LIKE HOW DO YOU RECONCILE HOW MUCH THEY KNOW THEY CAN WORK WITH I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING MORE THAN ANYTHING YET THE ANSWER IS NOT MUCH. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO EACH SESSION HAS ITS OWN STAND ALONE SO THE THE BONDING AUTHORITY FROM LAST YEAR DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO FOR THIS YEAR SO YOU KNOW YOU SAW THE GOVERNOR THAT THE GOVERNOR PUT FORWARD HIS PROPOSAL FOR WHAT BONDING WOULD LOOK LIKE. I THINK IT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $800 MILLION NINE 6960 THANK YOU. UNFORTUNATELY ONLY $40 MILLION FOR LOCAL PROJECTS AND A REMINDER THAT THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T WRITE THE BILL. RIGHT. SO THE LEGISLATURE WAS RIGHT THE BILL AND YOU KNOW THEY'LL HAVE THEIR ABOUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE SO WHEN WHEN YOU SEE THESE INITIAL PROPOSALS JUST REMEMBER THEY ALL INITIAL PROPOSALS RIGHT. SO THE NEGOTIATIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE SESSION AND OFTEN YOU WILL SEE A FINAL BONDING BILL THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT PEOPLE TALKED AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE APHORISMS OF THE LEGISLATURE IS THAT THE BONDING BILL IS WHAT IS THE THAT PULLS TIES THE STUFF TOGETHER. RIGHT. BECAUSE SO MANY LEGISLATORS HAVE INTEREST IN FUNDING PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT ARE DEAR TO THEM. SO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE POLICIES TO MOVE THIS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON 2020 FOR LEGISLATIVE POLICIES FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION SIX ZERO THANK YOU MUCH MR. SZABO APPRECIATE IT AND IN 5.6 OR EXCUSE ME 5.5 I JUMPED AHEAD 5.5 IS OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY APPOINTMENT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK AND NOW IT'S COME TO FRUITION. MR. FOUR BOOGIE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL SECRETARY SAFA MERCER JUST US AND YOU MET HER EARLIER THIS EVENING UNDER OUR EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTIONS NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE SAFA IN THE OFFICE AND EXCITED TO ALMOST LET MATT GO. WE HAVEN'T TOTALLY GOTTEN HER CLAWS OUT OF THESE DOING SOME LAST MINUTE TRAINING AND BRINGING UP TO SPEED. SO I THINK HE'S GOING TO HELP COPILOT OUR SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL BUT SAFA WOULD TAKING THE REINS THANK YOU MR. IBRAHIM AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK AHEAD OF THE VOTE BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THIS IS A DONE DEAL BUT I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GET TO KNOW SAFA SET UP A TIME COME INTO THE OFFICE, BUY A CUP OF COFFEE BUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR. A COUNCIL SECRETARY FOR THE COUNCIL I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING HER. WE'VE HAD A VERY PLEASANT COUPLE OF WEEKS TOGETHER ALREADY AND LOOKING FORWARD HAVING YOUR WORK WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL AND GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HER AS WELL SO WE OFFICIALLY NEED TO APPOINT HER AS COUNCIL SECRETARY SO COUNCIL I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION TO APPOINT A SAFA MERCER AS SECRETARY TO THE CITY COUNCIL EFFECTIVE 129 2024 SO WE'VE GOT MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO APPOINT A SAFA MERCER AS SECRETARY OF THE CITY COUNCIL NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO WELCOME ABOARD OUR OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM OF THE EVENING IS ITEM 5.6 OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING AND IT WAS A BUSY ONE WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS STOPPING BY MINUS OUR CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT A 2019 CIVIL CASE BETWEEN HERSELF AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE HAD TWO PARENTS TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND 102ND STREET SHANA SWANSON AND NEITHER SMITHSON CAME IN WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THEY OFFERED SUGGESTIONS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THEY WANT TO FORMALLY INSTITUTE SCHOOL ZONES. THEY WANT REDUCED SPEED LIMITS, THEY WANT CROSSWALKS. IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION AND IT FED VERY NICELY I THINK INTO A COUPLE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD THIS EVENING AT AT OUR REGULAR MEETING. PETER FERGUSON SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO OUR ORGANICS PROGRAM AND TO CHANGES TO CURBSIDE CLEANUP AND TO THE TO THE PAY AS YOU THROW PLAN THAT THAT THE CITY THAT THAT HE DESCRIBED AS THE CITY IS WORKING JANINE HUDSON SPOKE AND SHE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY TO COLLECT BACKGROUND CHECK INFORMATION DATED FROM NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR THAT SHE CLAIMED CONTAINED INCORRECT INFORMATION AND MR. ROBERT COLEMAN WHO SPOKE A COUPLE OF TIMES THIS EVENING ALSO SPOKE AT OUR LISTENING SESSION AND WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSIT AND THE THE THE SHORTCOMINGS OF PUBLIC TRANSIT IN BLOOMINGTON JUST IN GENERAL IN WITH OUR EAST-WEST ROUTES BUT ALSO WITH THE NORTH-SOUTH ROADS AS THE ONE OF THE THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS ANNUAL MEETING IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE ATTENDED A CONFERENCE OF MAYORS MEETING. WE YOU KNOW, THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS OBVIOUSLY IT WAS ALL COVERED ALL THE TIME AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WE WERE WORKING ON EXPO RELATED STUFF SO I HADN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS DESPITE SOME HEAVY LOBBYING BY A FEW FOLKS THAT THEY THOUGHT BLOOMINGTON SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE U.S. CONFERENCE, ESPECIALLY BY OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE TO THE SOUTH, THE MAYOR OF BURNSVILLE, WHO IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS REALLY WANTED TO SEE BLOOMINGTON INVOLVED. AND SO I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY WENT OUT THERE ON THIS TRIP FOR BRUCE AND I WERE THERE AND HAD SOME OUTSTANDING DISCUSSIONS SO SOME OUTSTANDING PRESENTATIONS ON ON DIFFERENT ITEMS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE APPLICABLE TO BLOOMINGTON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS SAW SOME INTERESTING SPEAKERS. IT'S A GOOD THING ABOUT THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS IS THAT THEY ARE THEY THEY COMMAND THE ATTENTION OF THE OF THE ADMINISTRATION. SO WE HEARD FROM WE HEARD FROM SECRETARY WOODRIDGE WE HEARD FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE. WE HEAR FROM TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY. BLINKEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE. BLINKEN VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM THE WE WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS. SO IT WAS VERY IT WAS WORTHWHILE. AND AND I DO THINK FROM A FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SHOULD BE INVOLVED WITH, I THINK THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I KNOW WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST BUT THE THE STATUS AND THE THE STATURE OF BLOOMINGTON IN , THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND OUR GROWING STATURE NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD I IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW ME TO I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT AND BENEFICIAL TO TO BLOOMINGTON IN THE LONG RUN. SO IT WAS IT WAS DEFINITELY WORTHWHILE. MR. ROONEY THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL MISNOMER. NOTHING. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A NUMBER OF EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED AND I'M SURE YOU ALL RECEIVED REGARDING A MEMORIAL OVER AT DRED SCOTT BY THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND I GUESS MY REQUEST WOULD BE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN TAKING A LOOK AT THAT POLICY THAT LED THE REMOVAL OF THE MEMORIAL TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO EITHER MAINTAIN OR CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE YOU KNOW, IN WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THINGS MIGHT BE REMOVED. WHAT'S OUR PROCESS FOR FAMILY NOTIFICATION AND CONTACT AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW THAT BECAUSE I MEAN I DO THINK YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE CHANGES IN A PARK IS CERTAINLY GOING TO THAT SOMETHING MEMORIALIZING YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS YOU KNOW NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FOR THE CHANGES IN THE PARK YOU KNOW IN THIS CASE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS YOU KNOW, THE CASE OR NOT AND SO I JUST YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SEE IF CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND I WILL JUST SAY MY PERSONAL HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE AT LEAST CONSIDER HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THAT MEMORIAL BACK WHERE IT WAS IF IF IF IT FITS WITHIN THE PARK PLAN. SO I THINK COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST WENT EQUAL HIS SENTIMENT IN REGARDS TO THE ISSUE THANK YOU THANK YOU. SO I DO THINK I KNOW THAT THE THE POLICY ITSELF WE DISCUSSED THIS I THINK PRIOR WITH WITH THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER I BELIEVE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION REGARDING MONUMENTS AND MARKERS CITY PARKS AND WE'RE TRYING TO DIG UP INFORMATION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET EXACTLY WHEN THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE AND HOW THEY WERE MADE AND THE DISCUSSION THAT DID TAKE PLACE AND TO BE HONEST, WE'RE I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AS TO EXACTLY THE POLICY DID TAKE YOU KNOW WAS CHANGED BECAUSE I RECALL THE CONVERSATION AT LEAST I DO OR TEN YEARS AGO I DO REMEMBER THAT I'M REMEMBER I COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT I'VE GOT SO I STILL KEEP RECORDS THAT WELL I DO I DO KEEP RECORDS ALONG. I DO I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT I WHAT I'VE GOT BUT I DO REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW AND I KNOW I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BUT I DON'T WANT TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS A BODY IS IF WE YOU KNOW IF WE DO IT FOR FOR FOR THIS THIS FAMILY AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS FOR OTHER MEMORIALS KIND OF GOING FORWARD? AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND LEGAL WAS INVOLVED AND AND YOU KNOW NOW THAT WE'VE ADOPTED A NUMBER OF THINGS OUR EQUITY AND INCLUSION PIECES, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. WELL, HOW DO WE RECOGNIZE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, EQUALLY ACROSS THE TIME OF HISTORY AND SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN THERE I DON'T KNOW I MEAN SINCE WE'VE GOT SUCH A NEW COUNCIL MAYBE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO OPEN IT BACK UP AND HAVE A LOOK AT IT. BUT I JUST, I JUST JUST KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION GIVEN THAT WE'RE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, UNDER UNDER THE GUN UNDER A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, I I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND DO THAT. BUT IF WE WANT TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT THEN LET'S RUBY. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW I WOULD RECOMMEND WE SEND IT THROUGH. IT WOULD BE A NORMAL PROCESS AND THE PARKS COMMISSION EVALUATE EVALUATE AGAIN TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF POINTS IN TIME THAT WE'RE AWARE OF WHERE THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD THERE'S A 2007 POLICY THE MOST RECENT POLICY RELATED TO THE MEMORIALS WAS JUST LAST SUMMER SO. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S COME UP SEVERAL TIMES AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO JUST PROCESS A REVIEW AS HAVE THE COMMISSION TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THEN BRING BACK SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. THE OTHER THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH FAMILY TO MAKE THAT WE DO FIND AN ONGOING AND AND ONGOING RESPECTABLE WAY TO CONTINUE TO HONOR THE MEMORY THEIR SON AND THAT INCLUDES THE WHOLE COURT THE YOU KNOW THE WERE DONATED FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT IT WASN'T JUST FOR THE MONUMENT AND AS WE'RE REMAKING THE COURT I THINK THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OPTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND SO WE WANT TO TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FAMILY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A PAINFUL INCIDENT FOR AND WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE INFLICT ANY HURT ON THE FAMILY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME TO A RESOLUTION THAT THAT THEY WILL FEEL CONTINUES TO HONOR KIRK'S MEMORY AND THAT YOU KNOW, WE WE FEEL AS OF , YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR IN THE PARK SYSTEM. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR AND JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. CITY MANAGER OF RUBY AND I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS OF THE CITY THAT THEY WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL THIS SITUATION AND I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION BEEN TOUGH FOR THE FAMILY AND SO YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THE IDEA OF RUNNING IT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS MAKES THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE WOULD PUT BACK UP IN FEBRUARY YOU KNOW, JUST DUE TO WEATHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU KNOW AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE, APPRECIATE HISTORY AND WHAT WAS THERE. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE NEW MEMORIALS AND EXISTING ONES AND I JUST THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHEN WE MIGHT REMOVE SOMETHING AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A CHANGE IN THE PARK BUT I MEAN SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE AND EXPENSES TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW ,ARE WE LIABLE FOR FOR PAYING FOR I MEAN THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK THROUGH ON THIS POLICY AND SO I DON'T WANT TO JUST SORT OF A KNEE ON THIS. I WANT IT TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AT LEAST A COUPLE OF OTHER SIMILAR MEMORIALS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AND MAKING MAKING A CONSIDERED DECISION. SO THANK I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS VERY BRIEF BECAUSE THEY ECHO A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I THINK I THINK THAT YOU KNOW I THINK A LOT ABOUT THESE MEMORIALS LIKE WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THE CEMETERY AND BECAUSE THE CEMETERY IS ESSENTIALLY A SET OF MEMORIALS THAT'S WHAT IT IS AND THERE'S USUALLY PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU DO THAT YOU KNOW WHEN MY WHEN I GOT MY MOM BURIED A MAUSOLEUM IN IN ALTOONA, PENNSYLVANIA I'M NOT THERE BUT THERE'S AGREEMENT THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK GOOD. RIGHT. AND THAT'S IN PERPETUITY SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DIDN'T WE WE WE WE AND I BELIEVE THE POLICY WE CHANGED LAST SUMMER PREVENTS US FROM PUTTING MEMORIALS IN ANYMORE. I THINK WE SAID WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE THEN I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT DO WE TO GO BACK TO THE TO THE DO WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THE ONES WE HAVE DO WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CONTACT FOR? MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS GOT COMPLICATED IN PART BECAUSE THE FAMILIES NO LONGER IN BLOOMINGTON AND IT WAS HARD TO FIND THEM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT SO IT SO THINGS GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED EVEN IN THAT PROCESS. SO YOU KNOW PART OF WHAT I THINK SO MIGHT MAKE IF WE ASSUME THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO DO IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT ANYMORE THEN MAYBE THIS IS EVEN SIMPLER WHICH IS JUST LIKE GET THE INVENTORY OF THE EXISTING ONES AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW ABOUT LIKE WHO'S THE CONTACT PERSON ? WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT DO WE HAVE IF WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT HOW CAN WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, MAINTAIN IT WHAT IS OUR OBLIGATION, WHAT'S THEIR OBLIGATION ETC. ETC. AND BE DONE IT AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THAT INVENTORY AND EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WORKS. OH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD PLAN BUT THAT SEEMS IT MIGHT WORK WELL FOR US. I JUST WANT TO ADD A FACT TO THE MEMORIAL IS JUST IT CAN BE A PIECE OF ROCK OF ROCK JUST SET AND WE WERE CALLING IT A MONUMENT THAT'S WHEN THIS BODY UNDERNEATH SO THERE'S TWO VERY DISTINCTIVE ITEMS IN THERE AND MEMORIAL IT CAN BE JUST A WALL PAINTED WITH SOMETHING JUST MEMORIZING THE MORTAR, IMMORTALIZING THE PERSON OR THE OBJECT WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO IN THIS CASE THERE'S NOBODY THERE REALLY WAS JUST A MEMORIAL. IT'S JUST GOOD PEOPLE KEEP CALLING IT YOU KNOW, GIVING IT THE OTHER NAME. SO IT JUST IT JUST I WAS JUST WANTING TO THAT CLEAR APPRECIATE THE CONFUSION. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU. I WANT TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT TOPIC IF I COULD SO THIS WEDNESDAY THERE WILL BE A WE HAVE A MEETING AT THE KNOCK OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DISCUSS KIND OF THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION AROUND THE NEW YOU KNOW A CALL TO ARNAV OR ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO THE OLD KIND OF A PROCESS WE USED TO USE IN THE PAST. AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A CHANCE TO TO ATTEND A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THAT AND YOU KNOW FROM FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN THUS FAR IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD FOR FOR BLOOMINGTON. I DON'T I MEAN I PUT THE CAVEAT ON ANYTHING CAN CHANGE AT ANY ANY MOMENT IN TIME. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPROVEMENT IN OUR OUR EXPERIENCES WHEN THEY GO BACK TO THE ARNAV AND I'VE ALWAYS LIKED THE ARNAV PROCESS WHEN I HAD THE FOUR IN TERMS OF HOW THAT HAS IMPACTED BLOOMINGTON AND SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT HAPPENS THIS WEDNESDAY WHEN IT HAPPENS IT OCCURS AND THEN THERE'S ONE OTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT I WANTED TO JUST SORT OF STAFF THAT THEY OFFER TO BOTH MYSELF AND ARE ALTERNATE BUT I THOUGHT THAT AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO IT BUT OFFERING A TOUR OF THE THE AIRPORT FACILITIES AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IF WE WANT TO JUST GO AS A WHOLE GROUP OVER THERE AND SO THEN I TO THROW THAT BACK TO YOU MANAGER TO TRY TO SEE IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING COULD BE ARRANGED SO MIGHT JUST BE USEFUL TO MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER IS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP FACILITATE IT. THEY SEE INTEREST TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE OUR STAFF WORK ON THAT LINE MORE AS OBVIOUSLY OUR PRIMARY STAFF PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO THE NOISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND I'LL TALK TO LYNN AND GET THAT BALL MOVING ANYTHING FURTHER COUNCIL IF NOT WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVED TO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN HEARING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT COUNSEL THANK TO STAFF FOR YOUR WORK. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS HERE AND PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING HAVE A GOOD REST YOUR WEEK