December 22, 2025 Bloomington City Council Meeting

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. >> EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 22ND, 2025 OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. COUNCIL WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA AND WE WILL BEGIN AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PLEASE STAND REMOVE ANY HEAD COVERINGS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . THANK YOU EVERYBODY WHO'S JOED US HERE IN THE CHAMBERS THIS EVENING. AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT COUNCIL IS TO ADOPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE HAVE A MODERATE AGENDA. I THINK WE GET OUT OF HERE AT A REASONABLE HOUR IF WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT. UNDER ITEM TWO UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADD A SMALL WALK ON ITEM THERE CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS OUR CONSENT ITEM AND WE HAVE 17 CONSENT ITEMS THIS EVENING UNDER ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY AND THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEM 4.1 IS A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY REGARDING THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR VISION STUDY ITEM 4.2 IS A HEARING REGARDING THE ADOPT AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY. A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3 IS AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE A PUBLIC PLAZA AT THE MAUI WATER PARK EXTENSION AND DEADLINE RESOLUTION IN SUMMARY PUBLICATION AND ITEM 4.4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION ORDINANCE UNDER ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND 5.1 IS IN ORDER AND AUTHORIZATION TO BID HARASS AND PARK TRAILHEAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR RENEWAL TREE REMOVAL PROJECT AND ITEM 5.2 IS A RESOLUTION TO REVISE THE COMPENSATION PLAN FOR FULL TIME, PART TIME, SEASONAL AND TEMPORARY NONUNION EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WILL WRAP UP AS WE DO WITH OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND I THINK I SAID I MISPRONOUNCED THAT AND 4.2 IS THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST IT FELT LIKE I DIDN'T SAY THAT CORRECTLY SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. THAT IS OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING COUNCIL IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO ADD OR ANY CORRECTIONS I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM OTHERWISE I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S A GENDA WHO NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO ITEM FIVE POINT EXCUSE ME ITEM TO UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS I SAID I WANTED TO WALK ON AN ITEM INTRODUCTORY TYPICALLY WHEN WE MIGHT PUSH THIS LATER IN THE EVENING BUT I DECIDED I WANTED TO DO IT EARLIER THIS EVENING BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE TUNE IN DON'T WE LOSE TRACK OF EVERYBODY? THIS IS THE LAST MEETING OF COUNCILMEMBER AT-LARGE, COUNCILMEMBER MUIR AND WANTED TO THANK HIM PUBLICLY AND CONGRATULATE HIM PUBLICLY AND CALL HIM OUT FOR HIS OUTSTANDING WORK ON THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I HAVE APPRECIATED THE COMMON SENSE DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THIS COUNCIL. I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU BRING AS A FATHER WITH 1011 KIDS AND THREE I'M SORRY THREE THERE ARE THREE OF THEM. I'M SORRY I LOST TRACK AND I APPRECIATE HOW SO OFTEN YOU BRING THE NOTION OF FAMILY INTO YOUR COMMENTS WHETHER IT'S YOUR YOUR FAMILY, YOUR THREE KIDS OR YOUR YOUR EXTENDED FAMILY AND YOUR PARENTS AND YOUR FAMILY AT LARGE BECAUSE IT SHOWS MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT THIS IS THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN JOB. THIS IS A POLICY DRIVEN JOB. BUT MOSTLY THIS JOB IS ABOUT PEOPLE AND HOW YOU RELATE TO THEM AND HOW YOU MAKE THE WORLD BETTER FOR THEM AND HOW WE DO OUR LITTLE PART OF THE WORLD HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO REALLY SUPPORT AND MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU ALWAYS BROUGHT AND THE ENERGY THAT YOU BROUGHT AND YOUR GOOD HUMOR AND I'VE JUST SO ENJOYED HAVING YOU ON COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. SOMETHING TELLS ME WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF YOU BUT WE WILL SEE. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT WITH US AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING YOUR MONDAY NIGHTS BACK AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. VERY WELL DONE. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COUNSEL ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN? COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS, MR. MAYOR. >> YES, AND JUST FOR MY PART JUST I WOULD HAVE SAID THIS LATER THANKS FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. IT'S BEEN GREAT HAVING YOU ON COUNCIL SAW AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE WAS ALWAYS VERY VALUABLE. IT MATTERS MOST WHEN WE HAVE A DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS UP HERE BECAUSE I THINK WE GET THE BEST WORK DONE. AND YOUR OPINION WAS UNIQUE IN SO MANY WAYS BUT ALSO THEMATICALLY IN LINE WITH BLOOMINGTON'S VALUES WHICH YOU HELPED DOCUMENT WHEN YOU WERE PART OF THE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING IN THE WORK THAT WE DID ON OUR OUR BLOOMINGTON TOGETHER TOMORROW TOGETHER PROGRAM SO IN JUST THANK YOU I WAS GOING TO STAND UP AND SHAKE YOUR HAND EVENTUALLY ANYWAY SO WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO STAYING IN TOUCH AND AS SOMEBODY WHO IS KIND OF NEW AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS GREAT TO READ ALONG WITH YOU. ANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WON'T GO ON AND ON AND ON BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED SERVING WITH YOU AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU AND GETTING TO KNOW YOUR FAMILY THROUGH DIFFERENT EVENTS. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND AS A FELLOW PARENT OF YOUNG KIDS I THINK THOSE OF US WHO HAVE YOUNG KIDS UP HERE UNDERSTAND THAT THE DIFFICULT DECISION THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE AND TOTALLY RESPECT THAT TOO BUT AGREE WITH THE MAYOR WE KNOW WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE LAST OF YOU. WE KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO STAY INVOLVED. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE ON COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE THE THE SACRIFICE THAT HAS COME WITH IT TOO. SO IT'S IT'S AN AMAZING JOB. IT'S A WONDERFUL JOB. BUT THERE ARE PIECES THAT SOMETIMES IT GETS HARD. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER REGUS THANKOU. AND IT'S BEEN A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND IN I CAN SAY FREELY THAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM YOU ALSO THE LITTLE CHATS THAT WE HAD AFTER THE MEETINGS OCCASIONALLY WERE VERY HELPFUL AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I JUST WISH YOU THE BEST AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU SITTING HERE IN A FEW YEARS OR WELL WHO KNOWS WHERE. BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALSO SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP. IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE YOU AROUND AND ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS I I HAD WHICH NEVER END. THANK YOU. SO COUNCILMEMBER BEFORE I STAND UP AND SHAKE YOUR HAND AND PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PLAQUE I'M GOING TO SAY GRANT ROLEN PLEASE SAY HELLO THERE. >> MY NAME IS SAMOA AND I AM AN ALUMNI OF THE BLUE INSULATION PROGRAM. I ALSO SERVED ON THE 2020 BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND TODAY I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS AN AT LARGE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. I SAW MOUA DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SOMETHING COMING TO THIS PROGRAM. >> WE HAVE WHEN I THINK OF BLOOMINGTON AND OUR MISSION TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE THESE ARE THE EVENTS THAT BRING US TOGETHER AND REFLECT THAT MISSION THAT WE HAVE OF THE CITY. WHAT I APPLIED FOR THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. MY GOAL WAS PRETTY SIMPLE I JUST WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR CITY. I NEVER IMAGINED HOW IT WOULD CHANGE MY LIFE AND WHEN I LOOK BACK ON THE IMPACT THAT ASIAN AMERICANS, PACIFIC ISLANDERS AND NATIVE HAWAIIANS HAVE HAD IN OUR CITY, I AM THRILLED TO SEE ALL OF THESE FACES HERE TODAY SHARING, CARING FOR EACH OTHER AND SHOWING THAT WE CAN TRULY IS THE PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE. I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF BUILDING A BLOOMINGTON WHERE CONNECTEDNESS AND COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO GROW . >> SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE MY FRIEND COUNCILMEMBER THE MIKE IS YOURS. THOSE ARE GREAT VIDEO AND THEN EXPECT THAT I APPRECIATE IT. YES WE HAVE THE THE BEST THE BEST COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE IN THE STATE AND WE HAVE THE WORDS TO SHOW IT OF COURSE. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOME WORDS BECAUSE I STILL VIVIDLY REMEMBER THE NIGHT THAT YOU ALL POINTED ME TO THE SEAT THREE YEARS AGO I WAS SITTING AT HOME WITH MY WIFE JUST LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO 2 OR 3 ROUNDS AND IN THAT FIRST ROUND THE SIX OF YOU UP HERE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE SOMEONE THAT WAS WORTHY OF HELPING GUIDE THE CITY INTO THE FUTURE AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT MOMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK. AND SO I WENT TO BED AND I SLEPT ON IT AND THE NEXT MORNING I WOKE UP AND I STILL COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. SO I TOOK A DRIVE AROUND TOWN AFTER I GOT THE KIDS READY, MADE BREAKFAST I WAS DRIVING AROUND TOWN AND I SAW LIGHTS FLICKING ON PEOPLE WAKING UP MAKING BREAKFAST STORE OWNERS POPPING OVER THEIR SHADES, GETTING READY FOR THE DAY. YOU KNOW EVERY CUSTOMERS AND AS I DROVE THROUGH THE CITY ON MY WAY BACK HOME I CAME RIGHT HERE ALL SHOT COPY AND EAST STREET AND JUST AS I WAS COMING HERE I COULD JUST SEE THE SUN RISING UP ON CITY HALL AND AS I WAS SITTING AT THAT LIGHTS ALL OF A SUDDEN I FELT THIS WEIGHT JUST GENTLY SETTLE IN MY SHOULDERS AND I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT. I DIDN'T EXPECT IT BUT THERE IT WAS. IT WASN'T HEAVY. IT WASN'T OVERBURDENING BUT IT WAS A RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER TAKE FOR GRANTED. BUT I WAS GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP GUIDE THIS WONDERFUL CITY AND I WANT TO SHARE THE STORY BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN HONOR IT WAS AND HAS BEEN TO SERVE ON THIS COUNCIL TO HELP GUIDE OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. AND IT'S NOT LOST ON ME HOW MUCH WORK IT TAKES NOT ONLY FROM US UP HERE ON THE DAIS BUT FROM THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE, FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE WILLING TO RAISE THEIR HAND, SHARE THEIR VOICES, MEET US FOR COFFEE, SEND US AN EMAIL SO THAT NO MATTER WHAT WHEN SOMEONE CALLS AND I DON'T ONE FOR HELP IT GETS THERE AS QUICKLY AS IT CAN SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE TURNS ON THEIR TAP WATER IT FLOWS EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME AND THAT OUR PARKS AND OUR GREEN SPACES REMAIN PLACES OF JOY AND STEWARDSHIP FOR GENERATIONS TO COME SO THAT MY KIDS CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY THEM AND HOPEFULLY MY GRANDKIDS WILL AS WELL. SO THANK YOU TO EVERY RESIDENT THAT I'VE MET AND SPOKEN TO THAT I'VE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THAT I'VE HAD COFFEE WITH THAT I'VE MET AT PARKS TO WALK AROUND AND CHAT ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS, YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH ME AND THIS COUNCIL WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN AND I'VE MET SO MANY OF YOU AND I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BLUE HAS THE MOST ENGAGED AND CARING AND THOUGHTFUL RESIDENTS ANYWHERE IN THIS STATE. THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF TO PRIYANKA AND BEFORE YOU SAPPHIRE AND MATT WRANGLING ALL OF US UP HERE IS LIKE WRANGLING CATS SO I DON'T ENVY YOUR JOB BUT THANK YOU FOR MAKING OUR LIVES EASIER. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TO ZAC, ELIZABETH AND KATHY YOUR LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION IS WHY BLUE TEAM FUNCTIONS PROPERLY AND IS MOVING FORWARD. AS A RESIDENT I'M GOING TO EXPECT THAT IT CONTINUES THAT WAY BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IT WILL. KNOWING ALL OF YOU AND HAVING THE CHANCE TO HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW ALL OF YOU TO CHIEF HODGES TO SEAL ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION IN ENSURING THE SAFETY OF THIS COMMUNITY. TO LAURIE AND COREY AND OUR WHOLE FINANCE TEAM THE BUDGETS, THE THREE TRIPLE-A RATINGS THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN OUT OF NOWHERE. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND DEDICATION FROM A TEAM THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THAT CARES ABOUT WHERE THEY WORK, CARES ABOUT THE CITY THAT THEY THEY WORK IN. THERE ARE SO MANY OF YOU THAT I'VE I'VE WORKED WITH AND I CAN'T NAME EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY AND EVEN THOSE I DIDN'T ME PERSONALLY YOUR WORK DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED BY ME. I SEE HOW EACH OF YOU SHOW UP TO MAKE SURE THE BLUE WINTER RUNS SMOOTHLY. YOU MAKE SURE THAT NO RESIDENTS WORRY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MAKE A CITY GREAT. YOUR DEDICATION IS THE BACKBONE OF THE CITY AND FROM THE DEEPEST PLACE IN MY HEART. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT DEDICATION AND THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO WHEN I STARTED THIS ROLE. BUT YOU'VE SUPPORTED ME. YOU'VE TAUGHT ME. WE'VE LEARNED TOGETHER. YOU HELPED ME NAVIGATE OUR FAVORITE YOU KNOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER HOW UP HERE THE FRIENDSHIPS THAT I'VE MADE WITH EACH OF YOU MEAN A GREAT DEAL TO ME AND I APPRECIATE IT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO CONNECT WITH EVERYBODY. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR ABILITY TO HERD ALL OF US CATS TO KEEP US FOCUSED AND ON THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND I KNOW IT'S NO EASY FEAT BUT YOU ALWAYS MAKE IT LOOK PRETTY EASY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO MY FAMILY, MY INCREDIBLE WIFE SHAUNA WHILE I WAS AWAY AT COUNCIL MEETINGS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONED MEETINGS, BRIEFINGS, CONFERENCES YOU WERE HOME HOLDING DOWN THE FORT MAKING SURE OUR KIDS WERE HAPPY AND HEALTHY AND FED. I'VE ASKED SO MUCH OF YOU AND YOU STOOD BY MY SIDE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THANK YOU. AND TO MY BOYS WHO I THINK NOW WITHOUT ME ON THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO DROP OUR AVERAGE YOUTUBE VIEWING AGE PROBABLY ABOUT 30 YEARS THEY'RE WATCHING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN TO MONDAY NIGHTS TO CATCH A GLIMPSE OF DAD BEFORE YOU GO TO BED. I HOPE THE VALUES THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT HOME STICK WITH YOU FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE AND TO MY FATHER MAY HE REST IN PEACE AND TO MY MOTHER WHO BRAVED WAR, LEARN A NEW LANGUAGE AND CULTURE AND GAVE ME A CHANCE AT PEACE AND SUCCESS. THANK YOU FOR INSTILLING THE VALUES OF SERVICE. AND TO MY IN-LAWS JOHN AND AND BARRY AND AMY YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT IS WHAT MAKES THIS WORK POSSIBLE. I KNOW I ALWAYS HAVE YOU TO LEAN ON WHEN I'M NOT AT HOME. SO TO WRAP IT UP, THE THEME OF THIS SPEECH IS THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS TO CITY STAFF, TO COUNCIL, TO MY FAMILY IT'S WITH BITTERSWEET EMOTIONS THAT I CALL TODAY MY LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR NOW YOU ALLUDED TO IT MAYOR I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY AND AND IF THE NEED EVER ARISES I WILL ALWAYS ANSWER THE CITY'S CALL. SO SOMEDAY WHEN MY FAMILY DOESN'T NEED ME QUI AS MUCH I'LL RAISE MY HAND AGAIN AND GIVE WHATEVER I CAN TO THIS ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE I WANT TO BE. THANK YOU . WELL DONE, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE WILL MOVE ON COUNCIL ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER READ US HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT I, I KNOW I CAN COUNCIL MEMBER CAN YOU CHAIR MY PHONE PLEASE? THANK YOU VOTE I THINK I SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH TO LIKE TO DETAIN YOU HOLD ON TO 1130 520 LOOK FOR YOU YEAH I CHECKED. ALL RIGHT I MOVE RIGHT IT'S 3.1 TO 3.4. I IS 3.62 3.10 3.12 TO 3.16. COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON IS HOLDING ITEM 3.5 AND 3.11. COUNCILMEMBER AND IS HOLDING ITEM 3.17 SAYING WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED HOLDING OUT ITEMS AT 3.5 3.11 AND 3.17 FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THAT HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ITEM 3.5 IT JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT HERE THIS IS REGARDING SOME COSTS SAID BIG THAT ARE ALL WITHIN THE CONTINGENCIES IN THE OVERALL BUDGET SO I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTRA COST TO ANYBODY. THIS WAS ALL WITHIN THE OVERALL BUDGET BUT THERE ARE ITEMS WITHIN HERE AND IT'S JUST THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE FIRM ON SOME OF THESE BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS I GOT TO BE HONEST THERE OBVIOUS CODE ISSUES THAT I THINK THE CONTRACTOR SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THERE OBVIOUS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT I THINK THE CONTRACTOR SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND I REALLY JUST THINK WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THESE PROCESSES ON THIS SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS AND I WORRY THAT THERE'S A JUST SORT OF A ON THE CONTRACTOR SIDE ON THE CITY SIDE EVEN WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SORT OF A FEELING LIKE WELL WE WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES SO IT'S FINE. WELL IT SHOULD BE FIGURED OUT ON THE FRONT END IN MY OPINION AND AND GET DONE THEN I MEAN JUST AS A FEW EXAMPLES LIKE THAT ADD ADDITIONAL EXIT SIGNS WELL WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE THE DOORS ARE WHERE HE NEEDED EXIT SIGN THERE THAT POWER TO A OVERHEAD DOOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EXPECTED THE OVERHEAD DOOR TO GO UP WITHOUT POWER, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY JUST THEY STRIKE ME AS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD FALL IN THE CONTINGENCY. IT SHOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BY THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE SCOPE AND PER CODE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. YOU KNOW LIKE I SAID, IT'S WELL WITHIN BUDGET. IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S YOU KNOW, REALLY PUSHING US OUT OF THERE. IT'S IT'S KIND OF THE PRACTICE. I JUST LIKE TO TIGHTEN THAT PRACTICE UP AND SO I WANTED TO SHINE SOME LIGHT ON IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COMMENT YES. THANKS MR. MAYOR. YEAH. I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ON THIS. I APOLOGIZE MY COMMENTS WERE WAY LATE TODAY AND SO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET THE CHANCE TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS STUFF. BUT BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD THIS KIND OF THING HAPPEN ESPECIALLY WITH THESE PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ALL WITHIN BUDGET EVERYTHING BUT I KNOW THAT I ASKED SIMILAR QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE THE BUDGET CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE THE FACILITY AT BRYANT PARK FOR EXAMPLE RIGHT THERE JUST AN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES MAKE TOTAL SENSE RIGHT? THESE DON'T FEEL UNFORSEEN THEY FEEL SEEABLE LIKE VERY FAR INTO THE FUTURE AND I ACTUALLY THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE NOT VALUE ENGINEERING THESE PROJECTS LIKE I THINK WE CAN TO RIGHT SO SO BY GOING BACK AND ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE WE ACTUALLY EITHER GET TO THE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE KNOW BETTER WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS OR WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE CHANCE TO BE UNDER BUDGET WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING. I WOULD LOVE TO BE UNDER BUDGET ON SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO TO KIND OF TRY TO INSERT A PLANNING. YOU COME IN HERE AND YOU ASK FOR A BUDGET TOTALLY GET THAT GOT GOT THE 10% CONTINGENCY BUT THEN ON TOP OF THAT THERE'S A VALUE ENGINEERING OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES BEFORE THE WORK ACTUALLY GETS UNDERWAY AND I JUST THINK WE COULD BE BETTER AT THAT. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE US DO THAT. THAT'S ALL AND I SO APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON BRINGING IT UP. I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OVER THE PAST YEAR WHERE WE COULD POINT TO LIKE OH THAT'S WEIRD, WE SHOULD KNOW THOSE THINGS. SO I'M HOPING WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST BRIEFLY, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MENTIONED THIS AT THE OUTSET OF THIS JUST THE IDEA THAT THESE WERE IN THE BUDGET. THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US IN ANOTHER LISTENING SESSION. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING BRAND NEW OR WAY OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER ANY OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS IF NOT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YOU SAID YOU WERE STILL GOING TO SUPPORT IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 3.5 OF THE CITY'S MOVE ITEM 3.5 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.5 AND TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THAT'S WHERE NELSON YOU ALSO AT ITEM 3.11 YEAH APOLOGIZE FOR THAT SO 3.11 HAS SOME LOTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING PURCHASED AS PART OF THE FOUR 9435 W PROJECT WHICH MAKES SENSE. I MEAN THEY GOT TO GET THE LAND THAT THEY NEED TO DO BUT THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED. IT WAS NOT PART OF THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT AND SO I AM WONDERING IF IF WE NEED TO REDO SOMETHING IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN WITH REGARDS TO THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THEY MENTIONED IN TERMS OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND THEY CITED STATUTE THAT INDICATED THAT THEY NEEDED TO BRING IT FORWARD BECAUSE OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION THEY THEY DON'T SOME WATER PONDS AT 82ND THEY DID NOT NOTICE THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALONG THE FREEWAY THERE ARE BETWEEN EIGHT THIRD AND 84TH I BELIEVE ON HUMBOLDT. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO JUST ASK IS ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THESE FOR SOMETHING? ARE THEY GOING TO DO THE SAME THING THEY DID ON THOSE OTHER LOTS? AND I MEAN LITERALLY THEY TOOK RIGHT AWAY AND TORE DOWN HOUSES AND THEN THEY GAVE US THE RIGHT AWAY BACK 20 YEARS LATER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THIS OR ARE WE JUST TAKING THE LOTS THAT PEOPLE COULD LIVE ON OUT OF CIRCULATION? SO LET'S US ASK THAT QUESTION . AMY RON AMY, CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE LATER ON IT SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THIS FOR US. >> YEAH. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO THE THE LAYOUT THAT THEY DID PROVIDE DID THERE IS A VERY DETAILED LAYOUT. IT WAS A LINK TO DOCUMENT IN YOUR PACKET. THERE WAS NO EXPECTATION THAT THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO FULLY REVIEW THIS GIANT PDF THAT WAS A CONCEPT LAYOUT THAT SHOWED THE BIG PICTURE. SO THE ONE THE ONE THAT YOU WERE SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION SHOWED THE BIG PICTURE OF HERE ARE THE THE BIG CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING . SO THIS IS NOT UNKNOWN THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE NEEDING THESE ROOF ACQUIRED PARCELS SOUTH OF 80 SOUTH OF 82ND STREET ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35 W FOR STORMWATER RETENTION OR FOR WATER WATER MITIGATION. SO IT'S BEEN IN THE PLAN FOR THE FULL VISION AND IT IS PART OF THIS NEXT PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT PROCESS. I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT FULL PROJECT LAYOUT AGAIN IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING A LOOK AT. COUNCIL MEMBER LISA THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THE FULL DETAIL THAT I SAW ALSO ENDED AT 82ND BECAUSE I DID CLICK ON THE LINK THAT'S WITHIN THAT AT THE TIME AND THEN I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED IT AGAIN SO MAYBE I CLICKED ON THE WRONG LINK BUT THEY HAD A FULL DETAIL AND IT STOPPED AT 82ND HAD THE WHAT DO THEY CALL A FLY BRIDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY HAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IT AND I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF IT. SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT AGAIN THE OTHER PART I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXPLICITLY MENTION THIS WHEN WE GAVE MUNICIPAL CONSENT, DO WE HAVE ANY LEGAL OBLIGATION TO RECONSIDER THAT ? I'M NOT SAYING I OPPOSE IT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT READILY APPARENT TO THE COUNCIL SHOULD WE REDO THAT ACTION BECAUSE IT IS EIGHT PROPERTIES. I MEAN IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT THIS BROWN. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I GUESS THAT PROBABLY IS AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU'D LIKE TO REVISIT IT. I DON'T THINK THEY WERE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON ANY SPECIFIC PARCEL WELL AS PART OF THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT SO THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT IS REQUEST A STATUTORY REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO INDICATE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE THE DETAILS OF EACH ELEMENT. I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE INTEREST IN SPECIFIC PARCELS ESPECIALLY SINCE BLOOMINGTON CURRENTLY OWNS AND MANAGES THOSE SPECIFIC PARCELS. I THINK I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER. MR. MAYOR IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON IT. THE TIME PERIOD HAS PASSED FOR MUNICIPAL CONSENT AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THAT I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION PERHAPS PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE THE THING TO DO. COUNCIL MEMBER MAYBE GET ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION IF NEED BE. HAVE A PRESENTATION OR SOMEBODY IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AGAIN PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT AND THE WORK THAT'S EXPECTED THERE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I'M SURE MR. UNDERSTOOD COULD DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND DECIDED TO TELL US WHETHER OR NOT ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL CONSENT OR MUNICIPAL INPUT IS IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS SITUATION. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THOUGH? OKAY SO COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER YOU HAVE YOUR PLEASURE. DO WE WANT TO HOLD THIS OVER OR DO WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS? AND THEN I JUST LOOK FOR MORE INFORMATION LATER. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY DID THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT TO THE LEGAL STANDARD THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CONTINUE TO HOLD IT. I WOULD LOVE TO AND I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE UP THE ENTIRE COUNCIL'S TIME MAYBE IT'S JUST A ONE ON ONE THING WITH ME TO GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY DISAGREE WITH IT. IT JUST SURPRISED ME. I WAS LIKE WAIT WHAT WERE THESE EIGHT LOTS AND I REMEMBERED THAT THERE WERE THE OTHER LOTS THERE AND SO THAT IT'S NOT THOSE LOTS I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT THEY DIDN'T BUY THEM GIVE THEM BACK AND THEN BIOME AGAIN. SO THAT WAS REALLY THE CHERRY ON TOP. SO ANYWAY I'LL MOVE THIS ITEM 3.11 VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I'LL SECOND IT THEN THE SECOND QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YEAH. THANK YOU HAPPY SECOND. I ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE THE SAME PARCELS LIKE IF IT FEELS LIKE THEY ARE TO ME BECAUSE THEY'RE IN MY PATCH AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR US TO DO DEVELOPMENT ON THESE PARCELS AND I WAS WONDERING WHY WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUR ACT TOGETHER AND NOW THEY'RE BACK IN THE HANDS OF OF MINDAT SO LIKE I DO WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION IN OTHER WORDS VERY GOOD AS I'M CONFUSED AND SURE WE'RE NOT ARE IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THEY ARE THEY LOOK LIKE THE SAME ONES THEY JUST CAME BACK TO YOU RIGHT ON HUMBOLDT AVENUE. YES. THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME LOTS OR TWO YEARS AGO. YEAH. MM HMM. THEN I WOULD LIKE OKAY. OKAY. WOULD YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION THEN? COUNCILMEMBER? NO, WE HAVE BOB SIMONS IS HERE TO TO HELP US OUT A LITTLE BIT TO BOB GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL TRY TO HELP A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HELP I'LL BE BUT I DID RECEIVE WORD FROM OUR RIGHT OF WAY AGENT EARLIER TODAY THAT THE PARCELS THAT YOU WERE INITIALLY REFERRING TO FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WERE ACTUALLY PARCELS SOUTH OF 84TH STREET AND THESE PARCELS ARE BETWEEN 83RD AND 84TH STREET WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO I BELIEVE IT WAS IT WAS TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF PARCELS THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. THERE WERE AND IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, I ACTUALLY THINK I ACTUALLY THINK THEY WERE ALL PART OF IT AND THERE WAS ONE EVEN OVER ON FREMONT LIKE THERE'S A THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WAS GIVEN BACK TO US LIKE WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AND I DO THINK I I RECALL THAT BETWEEN 83RD AND 84TH THOSE PARCELS WERE RETURNED BACK TO THE CITY. SO WHY DON'T WE WHY DON'T WE TAKE OUT WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND MAYBE HOLD THIS OVER IF WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION A HOLDOVER ITEM 3.11 AND I GET A FEW MORE ANSWERS TO THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON IT I WOULD MAKE THAT EXACT MOTION SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO HOLD ITEM 3.11 TO DATE UNCERTAIN UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON THIS ISSUE ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOMA 19 3.17 THANK YOU MAYOR. I WAS I WAS JUST TO LET THIS ONE PASS THROUGH BUT THEN I GOT SOME WAIT A COUPLE NOTES FOR FOLKS WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THIS FROM THE STAFF AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON EMPLOYMENT RULES AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE THE FUNERAL LEAVE BEING SHIFTED OVER INTO THEIR PERSONAL LEAVE AND I JUST WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE OF STAFF REACHING OUT TO ME THAT THEY WERE CONFUSED BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT ONE THAT THE THE THAT THIS IS A DIRECT COMPARISON. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST KIND OF JUST MOVING IN AS IT STATES IN THE IN THE AREA AND THAT THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN SENT TO EMPLOYEES AROUND THIS AND THEN THERE IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE THE AMOUNT IT'S NOT A DEDUCTION FROM THE THE PERSONAL LEAVE PERIOD SO SOMEBODY COULD SPEAK TO THAT IT'S FAIR TO THINK IS GOING TO HELP US OUT WITH US AGAIN I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TILL I GOT THOSE PEOPLE REACHED OUT TO ME I WAS GOING TO EVEN CALL THIS SO I'LL ADDRESS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL YES THIS RELATES TO IT ACTUALLY RELATES TO OUR POLICY ON THE NEW PAID FAMILY LEAVE BENEFIT THAT'S GOING INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY. WE PATTERNED OUR CITY POLICY OFF OF THE MODEL POLICY FROM THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES AND IN THAT MODEL POLICY IT INCLUDED A PROVISION ON FUNERAL LEAVE THAT WE DON'T NEED IN OUR POLICY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE FUNERAL LEAVE REFERENCED IN OUR ARTICLE ON PERSONAL LEAVE. AND SO A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ABOUT IT. I'VE EXPLAINED IT TO THEM SO WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOTS THERE. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST TO CLEAN UP THAT PROVISION. SO WE ALREADY HAVE FUNERAL LEAVE REFERENCED IN OUR PERSONAL LEAVE ARTICLE SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARY NO NO LOSS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT'S ON IT. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO MOVE IT. PLEASE DO. COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION AMENDING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S EMPLOYMENT RULES MOST BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SECOND MY COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS TO ACCEPT THAT AM 3.17 ON OUR COUNCIL OUR CONSENT BUSINESS THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS FOR PRESENTING THIS TONIGHT AND THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT. COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL MOVE ON. ITEM FOUR IN OUR AGENDA ARE OUR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE'LL START WITH ITEM 4.1. THIS IS A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR VISION STUDY IS OWN BACK AGAIN. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL SO WE VISITED YOU BACK EARLIER THIS SUMMER AS WE WERE JUST GETTING ARE DIPPING OUR TOES INTO THE STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WORKING TOWARDS THE COUNCIL GOAL. SO IF YOU THINK BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO A SECTION OF BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CAME UP FOR SOME PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL AND STAFF AT THAT TIME ABOUT IF WE JUST RECONSTRUCT THIS ROAD OR DO AN OVERLAY ON THIS ROAD ARE WE JUST PRESERVING PAVEMENT FOR THE SAKE OF PRESERVING PAVEMENT? WHAT WOULD THE IDEAL VISION BE FOR THIS CORRIDOR? AND THEN YOU SENT THE STAFF BACK TO INVESTIGATE THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS STUDY TONIGHT WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION AS AN OUTCOME OF THAT THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE IN WORKING A LAYOUT THAT WILL WORK TOWARDS THE GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS SET FOR MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS AND ALSO MAINTAINING TRAFFIC SAFETY AND WHAT THE COST DIFFERENTIAL IS FOR THAT BETWEEN MAINTAINING THE EXISTING CROSS SECTION AND THAT PROPOSED FUTURE VISION. SO WITH THAT I'LL LET PHIL COOL THIS WITH ASHRAF LEE THIS PRESENTATION. THANKS. GOOD EVENING MR. CLOSE WELCOME. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AND MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH, AS I MENTIONED GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'VE DONE ON HERE OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE PROJECT WE DON'T WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT SINCE WE WERE HERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO JUST A REFRESHER OF WHAT THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT ARE SO EVERYONE HAS IN THEIR MIND GO OVER THE CONCEPTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, GO OVER AN INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE CONCEPTS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE PROJECT. GO OVER THE EVALUATION MATRIX WE WON'T GO TO MUCH IN DETAIL CAN ANSWER YOUR ANY QUESTIONS THOUGH GO OVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN ALSO THE INPUT FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WENT TO A MONTH OR SO AGO. SO THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE IS LOOKING AT BLOOMINGTON VERY ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY HERE JUST EAST OF TRUNK HIGHWAY 169 LOOKING AT WHAT THE CORRIDOR IS TODAY AND LOOKING AT WHAT IT WANTS TO BE IN THE FUTURE REALLY TRYING TO RIGHT SIZE THE CORRIDOR THAT THE ROADWAY WAS BUILT MANY YEARS AGO BEFORE THE RIVER CROSSING AND 169. SO USED TO SERVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE THAT USED TO SERVE THOSE REGIONAL TRIPS. NOW WITH THE 169 BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER IT'S A DIFFERENT NEED. IT'S MORE LOCAL COMMUTER TRAFFIC, MORE LOCAL PEOPLE JUST OUT ON THEIR DAILY ROUTE. SO REALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S NEEDED FROM THE TODAY AS WELL AS INTO THE FUTURE TO RAISE THE RIGHT SIZE OF THE CORRIDOR AND MEET THE VARIOUS NEEDS OF THE CITY NOT JUST TRYING TO MOVE VEHICLES BUT LOOKING AT PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES. WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE CORRIDOR TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL TRANSPORTATION? SO BASED ON THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. ULTIMATELY THREE CONCEPTS WERE CONSIDERED HERE SO WE HAVE CONCEPT A WHICH IS A ONE WAY BIKE WAY AND SIDEWALK. AND SO THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES WITH THIS CONCEPT BIKES TO BE TO TRAVEL ONE DIRECTION SO IF YOU'RE ON THE EAST SIDE TO BE ON NORTHBOUND IF YOU'RE ON THE WEST SIDE YOU'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND BE IS A SHARED USE PATH. THIS IS WHERE BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS WILL BE SHARING THE SAME SPACE. THIS WOULD EXIST ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY AND CONCEPT C IS A TWO WAY BIKEWAY. ON THE ONE SIDE IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OR BIKES AND GO BOTH DIRECTIONS AS WELL AS THERE'S A SIDEWALK THERE SO COMPLETE SEPARATE FACILITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS BICYCLES LIKE CONCEPT A AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE THERE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK . SO THESE ARE THE THREE CONCEPTS THAT MOVE FORWARD ALL OF THEM HAVE A REDUCTION IN LANE. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO LANES OF TRAVEL IN EACH DIRECTION FOR VEHICLES BASED ON THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS WE'RE REALLY NOT SEEING THE NEED FOR THAT. THE VOLUMES OUT THERE HAVE BEEN REALLY CONSISTENT FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS AND ARE WELL UNDER THE CAPACITY OF WHAT A ROADWAY WITH ONE LANE OF ONE LANE FOR VEHICLES IN EACH DIRECTION WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. SO ALL CONCEPTS THAT WERE CONSIDERED OTHER THAN THE NO BUILD HAVE THAT ONE LANE OF DIRECTION OR ONE LANE OF TRAVEL IN EACH DIRECTION. SO BACK IN SEPTEMBER WE WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH THESE THREE CONCEPTS FOR INPUT. SO SEPTEMBER 23RD WE WERE ALSO ALONG THE CORRIDOR AT T NORTH END I IT WAS A WELL-ATTENDED OPEN HOUSE. WE HAD 88 PEOPLE SIGN IN. HOWEVER THERE WAS PEOPLE COME IN THAT SAY SIGN IN AND WE ESTIMATE THERE WAS ROUGHLY 120 230 PEOPLE AT THE OPEN HOUSE WHICH IS FOR GENERALLY MOST PROJECTS ARE REALLY WELL IT'S AN OPEN HOUSE SO WE WERE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE INPUT WE RECEIVED. WE RECEIVED INPUT BOTH AT THE OPEN HOUSE FOR A COUPLE OF CARDS AS WELL AS WE HAD SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS FROM THE CITY AS WELL AS THE CONSULTANT TEAM THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, GATHER INPUT AND THEN THERE WERE SURVEYS AS WELL THAT WERE POSTED ONLINE SO WE RECEIVED INPUT VIA IN-PERSON AS WELL AS ONLINE LATER VIA LESS TALK BLOOMINGTON AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED IN THE SURVEY ABOUT WHICH CONCEPT DO YOU FEEL BEST ADDRESSES THE GOALS AND BASED ON THE PUBLIC INPUT 47% OF PEOPLE PREFERRED CONCEPT C OR THOUGHT THE CONCEPT C ALIGN MOST WITH WHAT THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT ARE SOME COMMON THEMES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC SO WE HAD LAYOUTS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE COULD COMMENT ON. YOU CAN SEE POST-IT NOTES WE HAD I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY COUPLE OF HUNDRED COMMENTS HERE ON POST-IT NOTES. SO WE TOOK THOSE BACK AND DEVELOPED SOME THEMES. I'M A BIG PART OF IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE ALONG THE CORRIDOR REALLY VALUE THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WANT TO ENHANCE THAT AND MAKE IT SAFER AND THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF GREEN SPACE OUT THERE TODAY WITH THE WIDE MEDIAN THERE'S INTEREST IN MAINTAINING THAT GREEN SPACE BEING ABLE TO USE THAT FOR VARIOUS USES. SO OUR MANAGEMENT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE POLLINATORS THERE IS CONCERN OUT THERE FOR THE EXISTING SPEEDS WHICH THE FOUR LANE SECTION OUT THERE TODAY IT'S NOT REALLY NEEDED. PEOPLE CAN DRIVE IT FASTER THAN ME WHAT WE REALLY DESIRE SO THERE IS CONCERNS ABOUT SPEEDING AND THERE THERE IS THE ACTUAL TECHNICAL DATA THAT BACKS THAT UP THAT PEOPLE ARE OVERALL SPEEDING ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THEN ALSO PROJECT FUNDING COSTS AND PRIORITY. SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT AND HOW IT WOULD BE FUNDED. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC ASKED ABOUT AS WELL AFTER THE SECOND ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT THERE WERE SOME FOLLOW UP ITEMS THAT WE DID HEAR. WE TOOK A FURTHER LOOK AT LYNN SOME DRIVE ANALYSIS BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THERE IS LONGER QUEUES AND DELAYS RIGHT NOW WHICH WE LOOKED AT. THAT IS TRUE IN 2025. THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AROUND THE AREA ON THE REGIONAL SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN IMPACTING THAT. BUT OVERALL THE PAST FEW YEARS OTHER THAN 2025 THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE CASE AND WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT INTERSECTION SITE SINCE ALONG THE CORRIDOR SO INTERSECTIONS WHERE THERE WERE REQUIRING VEHICLES TO JUDGE GAPS IN TRAFFIC AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. LINDSTROM WAS THE MAIN FOCUS BUT THEN WE ALSO TOOK LIKE OTHER INTERSECTIONS AND WE HAVE SOME INTERIM SOLUTIONS THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS THAT. VANESSA ROAD SO THAT'S THE NORTHERN INTERSECTION THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING SIGNAL AT. WE HAD COMMENTS THAT THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN PRESERVING THAT SIGNAL SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT SINGLE WARRANTS TO REALLY SEE IS THERE ANY WAY THAT A SIGNAL THERE IS REALLY NEEDED OR WARRANTED. AND THEN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT WE IDENTIFIED FULL VISION WHAT THE CORRIDOR WANTS TO BE ULTIMATELY BUT THEN ALSO IDENTIFIED INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED AT A LOWER COST AND EASIER TO HELP GET TOWARDS THAT VISION BUT THEN ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY. >> SO HERE'S A MATRIX THAT I'M SURE NO ONE CAN REALLY SEE ON THEIR SCREEN. THERE'S A LOT OF BOXES IN HERE SO I DON'T REALLY NEED TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OVERALL EXISTING CONDITIONS THE NO BUILD IS ON THE FAR LEFT SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE COLUMN HAS MORE YELLOW AND THEN IT'S A, B AND C ARE THE ONES ON THE RIGHT. I MEAN OVERALL BASED ON THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT REALLY ALL THE ALTERNATIVES HELP TO ADDRESS THEM AND ARE BETTER THAN REALLY THE NO BUILD CONDITION OUT THERE. I WILL POINT OUT THERE ARE THE TWO RED BOXES ON ALT A AND B AND THOSE ARE UNDER A NON-MOTORIZED COMFORT AND SAFETY AND THAT DEALS WITH CONCEPT A POTENTIALLY REQUIRES PEOPLE TO CROSS THE ROAD DEPENDING ON WHAT DIRECTION TRAVEL YOU'RE HEADING ON THE BIKEWAY AND THEN CONCEPT B IS DUE TO THE SHARED ENVIRONMENT OF PADS AND BIKES WITH THE SHARED USE PATH RECOGNIZING TODAY THERE IS SEPARATION AND AS THERE ARE A LOT MORE E-BIKES OUT THERE BEING ABLE TO TRAVEL MUCH FASTER THERE IS MORE OF AN INTEREST IN HAVING PADS AND BIKES BEING THEIR OWN SEPARATE SPACE SO THAT'S WHY THAT STANDS OUT. AND THEN COST ON THE OTHER CONCEPTS THERE I SEE THAT IS A FACTOR HERE IS IS COST THE CORRIDOR AS ITSELF IS GOING TO NEED REPLACING RECONSTRUCT IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THE CORRIDOR WAS BUILT FROM THE 1970S EARLY 1980S SO IT IS GETTING REALLY TOWARDS THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE AND IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS REGARDLESS OF NEEDING OR INTERESTING REDUCING THE CROSS SECTION AND DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IT WILL NEED FULL RECONSTRUCTION ANYWAYS WHICH RIGHT NOW WE'VE ESTIMATED TO COST $21 MILLION TO FULLY RECONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY. THE ALTERNATIVES A, B AND C OR AN ADDITIONAL 3 TO 6 MILLION DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE WE SELECT TO GAIN THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THAT MATRIX AND ON THIS SLIDE. SO JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT EVEN IF WE DO NOTHING THE CORNER DOESN'T FULLY OR DOESN'T NEED TO BE FULLY RECONSTRUCTED WHICH HAS A COST OF ROUGHLY $21 MILLION TODAY THAT WE ESTIMATE. SO THERE IS THAT COST AND THIS IS 3263 $6 MILLION ADDITIONAL TO GET SOME OF THESE BENEFITS THAT WE POINT OUT HERE. THE VISION WOULD REALLY HELP WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT RECOGNIZING THAT TODAY THERE IS FLOODING OF PRIVATE PROPERTIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THIS WOULD HELP TO MITIGATE THAT VIA REDUCE IMPERVIOUS AREA AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BASINS REALLY HELP SLOW DOWN THE WATER FROM GETTING THERE. THERE'S SUSTAINABILITY IMPACTS HERE REDUCE IMPERVIOUS AREA AND MORE GREEN SPACE AND THEN WE'RE REALLY IN THE MOBILITY SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS BIKES, VEHICLES WITH THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE OR LOOKING AT THERE REALLY IS THE ABILITY TO ENHANCE THE OPERATIONS AND SAFETY OF ALL USERS OF THE CORRIDOR. SO THERE'S SOMETHING A LOT THAT CAN BE GAINED FROM THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THAT ADDITIONAL 3 TO $6 MILLION AS WELL AS ALSO LONG TERM PAVEMENT COSTS AS WELL. WE ESTIMATE THAT EVERY MILLION OVERLAY THAT WOULD OCCUR APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS WOULD BE ABOUT $3 MILLION LESS. SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL UPFRONT CAPITAL COST BUT THEN THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE COST WOULD BE LOWER JUST DUE TO THE LESS PAVEMENT THAT'S OUT THERE . SO BASED ON ALL THE TECHNICAL EVALUATION, THE EVALUATION MATRIX THAT YOU JUST SHOWED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING THE TWO WAY BIKE WAY WITH THE SIDEWALK ON THE ONE SIDE IS ALTERNATIVE C I MEAN AS PART IS THAT A PART OF THIS THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT ONCE IT MOVES INTO THE DESIGN PHASE OF THE PROJECT THAT REALLY WOULD TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE AS CAN BE REALLY TRYING TO HOLD ONE CURB LINE IF POSSIBLE THAT'S OUT THERE AND BUILDING OFF OF THAT. SO REALLY TAKING A FURTHER LOOK AND SEEING WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP LOWER THAT ADDITIONAL COST BY PRESERVING SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THERE. AND AS I POINTED OUT, WE DID LOOK AT INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS RECOGNIZING THE FULL VISION THERE IS A HIGHER PRICE TAG TO IT RECOGNIZING THAT THAT WILL TAKE TIME TO DESIGN TO GET THE FUNDING FOR IN PLACE. SO THAT'S FURTHER OUT BUT THERE ARE EXISTING ISSUES AND CONCERNS OUT THERE TODAY. SO AS PART OF THIS WE ARE LOOKING AT INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS. SO FOR THE CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING A RATE LANE REDUCTION VIA STRIPING. SO THIS WOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT ARE OUT THERE SO WE CAN HELP TRAIN UP THE ROADWAY, REDUCE SPEEDS, REDUCE SOME OF THE CROSSING DISTANCES FROM INDUSTRY AND JUST VIA SOME LOW COST LANE REDUCTIONS VIA STRIPING AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT INTERSECTIONS AT VENUS ROAD AND LINDSTROM YUKON AND 102ND SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF NE REDUCTIONS TIGHTENING UP THE ROADWAY TO GET SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT THE FULL VISION WOULD HAVE. AND REALLY THE INTENT WITH THESE IS THAT THEY COULD BE INSTRUCTED IN THE NEAR TERM BUT THEN THEY WOULD ALSO WOULD BE PART OF THE FULL VISION AS WELL. THESE WANT TO BE THINGS I WOULD THEN HAVE TO GET RIPPED OUT WITH THE FULL VISION. THIS WOULD BE HELP AND WORK TOWARDS WHAT THE FULL VISION IS AND THEN JUST INPUT FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION. I MEAN THEY BOTH SUPPORTED WHAT THE PROJECT IS TRYING TO DO HERE AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ALTERNATIVE SEE AS THE FULL VISION AS THE PREFERRED LONG TERM VISION HERE AND THEN THE INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE FOUR INTERSECTIONS THAT I HAD JUST SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO WITH THAT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL AS WHAT WE WENT THROUGH. SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS . THANK YOU MUCH MR. CLUELESS COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOU MAYOR AN OPTION C IS IS ALREADY IN PLACE AND SECTIONS OF BOONTON FERRY ROAD CORRECT LIKE BASICALLY THE SOUTHERN PART FROM PIONEER TRAIL ABOUT SOUTH THERE IS OPTION C ALREADY CORRECT IN THIS WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PED BIKE FACILITIES NOT THE ROADWAY CORRECT THAT IS IN PLACE FOR PARTS OF THAT AND AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT WOULD BE LOOK TO PRESERVE AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON REALLY THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT. I MEAN IF IT OCCURS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN IF IT OCCURS IN 20 YEARS AWAY. SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MIGHT BE OKAY. SOME OF IT MIGHT BE THEN DETERIORATING. SO THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE THAT'S WHERE WE'D BE LOOKING AT SAVING SOME OF THAT RECOGNIZING AS YOU POINT OUT THAT A VERY SIMILAR CROSS SECTION DOES EXIST. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'D BE LOOKING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. THE COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR. APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE GET A FEW QUESTIONS OF VANESSA INTERSECTION. ARE THERE CHALLENGES WITH REGARDS TO THAT BECAUSE TO THE SOUTHWEST IS COMMERCIAL IT'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, THE MCDONALD'S A GAS STATION OR A SHOPPING MALL AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST IS RESIDENTIAL THERE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC FLOWS AND YOU KNOW HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE DESIGN OF THAT WITH REGARDS TO THAT SIGNALIZED CROSSINGS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS? YEAH. COUNCILMAN NELSON QUESTIONNAIRE. YEAH. SO WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE COUNTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO WE HAVE 13 HOURS ACCOUNTS FROM 6 A.M. TO 7 P.M. SO REALLY CAPTURING THE BULK OF TRAFFIC THAT'S OUT THER AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS HERE. I MEAN WE'RE REALLY NOT SEEING THE NEED FOR THAT SIGNAL B WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS A WIDER IT'S A LARGER INTERSECTION TODAY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO RECOMMEND REMOVING THAT SIGNAL WITHOUT DOING ANOTHER GEOMETRIC IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY THE THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE HERE IT LOOKS AT TIGHTENING THAT UP BECAUSE AN ALWAYS OUT CONTROL INTERSECTION WITH THAT MANY LANES THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY IT IS DIFFICULT FOR DRIVERS TO UNDERSTAND WHO GOT THERE FIRST, WHO SHOULD BE MOVING FIRST AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE NOT SEEING THE NEED FOR THE SIGNAL. HOWEVER, WE WANT TO RECOMMEND REMOVING IT WITHOUT DOING OTHER ITEMS. SO THAT'S WHERE THE INTERIM IMPROVEMENT IS CONSIDERING TIGHTENING THAT UP AND LOOKING AT THE SIGNAL REMOVAL, I MEAN AS FAR AS ANY SIGNAL REMOVAL TYPICALLY IT'S GOES THROUGH A TEST PERIOD WHERE BASICALLY THE SIGNAL IS PUT INTO FLASH BAG WHERE IT'S IN PLACE IF IT NEEDS TO BE BUT TEST OUT TO SEE HOW IT WOULD FUNCTION WITHOUT THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING KIND OF AS AN INTERIM PILOT TEST AS WELL. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE MY CONCERN HAD BEEN LIKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO MCDONALD'S TO GET GAS OR COME ON RADAR FOR 169. THEY'RE ALL USING THAT ONE AREA TO GET BACK OUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUT THERE IS TO GO TO VENUS AND TAKE A LEFT TO GET BACK TO THE FREEWAY AND SO THAT THAT WAS MY CONCERN. SHE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE RUSHING THROUGH THERE AND THERE. SO IT WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO I'M PROBABLY GOING TO MISPRONOUNCE THIS BUT IN RAM BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO PIONEER AND BLOOMINGTON FERRY AND IF THERE'S CHANGES AT PIONEER AND BLOOMINGTON FERRY, DOES THAT IMPACT THAT ENTRANCE EXIT THERE? YEAH BECAUSE REMEMBER TO QUESTION IS YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH THE ROUNDABOUT CONCEPT THERE I'M ASSUMING YEAH YEAH IF YOU PUT A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE BUT THEN YOU HAVE AN UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTION FROM ONE DIRECTION ON BLOOMINGTON FERRY. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS LIKE SO YEAH BASED ON THE TRAFFIC ON INTERESTING OUT THERE WE'RE NOT IN THIS OR SEEING THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR MOVING INTO THE DESIGN THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF DOING A MORE DETAILED EVALUATION I WOULD SAY AND SEEING IF THERE'S ANY NEEDS THAT WOULD TRIGGER SOMETHING DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN WE FEEL ABLE TO OPERATE ACCEPTABLY AND THERE WON'T BE ANY ISSUES ARE CONCERNED WITH THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S JUST USUALLY HAVING INTERSECTION IS VERY NEAR EACH OTHER IS A COMPLICATED MATTER. IT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS LET ME JUST JUMP TO THE OTHER ONE WERE THERE ANY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT OPTIONS LOOKED AT BECAUSE ALL OF THESE SEEM TWEAKS ON THEMSELVES AND YOU KNOW WERE MAKE IT DOWN INTO ONE LANE PUT SOME TYPE OF BIKE PEDESTRIAN TYPE YOU KNOW HOW FAR YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT BOTH SIDES ONE SIDE SHARE NOT SHARED ALL OF THAT. WAS THERE ANYTHING RADICALLY DIFFERENT LOOKED AT BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY THERE WE ARE AS WAS MENTIONED WE ALREADY HAVE RIDER YOU KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE TRAILS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES TWO LANES ON BOTH SIDES OF BOULEVARD. I DON'T THINK THIS WORKS EVERYWHERE AND I'M PRETTY SURE I'LL GET EMAILS TOMORROW BUT WOULD THERE BE AREAS THAT WE COULD IF WE DID ONE LANE WE DID A PATH ON ONE SIDE THAT WE COULD ADD ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND WE COULD FRANKLY YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WAS DESIGNED AT A DIFFERENT TIME. I REMEMBER THAT DIFFERENT TIME I REMEMBER DRIVING ON BLOOMINGTON FERRY THE BRIDGE TO COME IN TO BLOOMINGTON AND TAKING THIS ROAD AND THEN I REMEMBER WHEN THEY BUILT THE BRIDGE THIS IS NOT THE SAME TIME COULD WE CONVERT THIS TO A RESIDENTIAL STREET? COULD WE ADD HOUSING? COULD WE DO OTHER THINGS? YOU TALKED ABOUT GREEN SPACE BEING IMPORTANT. COULD WE MEET SOME OF OUR OTHER GOALS WITH THIS AND FRANKLY JUST RADICALLY RETHINK THIS ROAD? YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO INITIALLY WE HAD LOOKED AT OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS DO WE MAINTAIN THE WIDE BOULEVARD ALL ZONING BASED ON INPUT THAT WE HEARD FROM VARIOUS COMMISSIONS. WE WE DISMISSED THAT ONE AND I THINK PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE HOUSING ABOUT POTENTIAL TO USE IT FOR HOUSING. I MEAN ALSO I MEAN THERE IS A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY OUT THERE FOR A ROAD I WOULD SAY BUT IN TERMS OF FITTING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AND BY THE TIME YOU PUT IN A ROAD AND SETBACKS THERE REALLY IS VERY I GUESS LIMITED SPACE IN THAT SENSE. SO IT'S A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY FOR A ROADWAY THAT IS OVER KIND OF BUILT BUT IN TERMS OF FITTING HOUSING IN THERE THEY REALLY SEE THAT AS LIKE A REAL POTENTIAL TO KIND OF SQUEEZE THAT IN THERE. SO THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED BECAUSE I WAS EITHER THIS OR PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THAT COMMENT CAME UP BEFORE. YEAH, MY SUGGESTION IS TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAN CHANGE THOSE RULES AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IT'S NOT EVERYWHERE. I MEAN I DON'T THINK LIKE SOME OF THESE AREAS WE ALREADY HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON BOTH SIDES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO JUST FIT SOME MORE HOUSES BUT THERE ARE SOME WHERE THERE ARE PARK SPACES THAT AREN'T LIKE YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE USING A LOT AND NOT TRYING TO TAKE UP PARK SPACE NECESSARILY FOR HOUSING. BUT I YOU KNOW I AM LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR THAT TYPE OF THING AND TO BETTER UTILIZE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO WE'VE GOT A TON OF RIGHT AWAY AND IT'S UNDERUTILIZED IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNE CITIES HERE. SO I THINK THAT FOR NOW THAT'S ALL I GOT. MAYOR THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS MR. MAYOR. THESE ARE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS ARE THEY AT THE COST THAT YOU INDICATED TO US INCLUSIVE OF THESE TEMPORARY IMPLEMENTED IMPLEMENTATIONS? YES. YEAH. THE OVERALL COST INCLUDES THE FULL VISION WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THESE INTERPRETIVE IMPROVEMENTS. SO YEAH, THESE WOULD BE THESE ARE COMPLETED IN BEFORE LIKE THE FULL QUARTER IS BUILT ON ESSENTIALLY THE COST FOR THE FULL QUARTER WOULD COME DOWN AT THAT POINT DUE TO CONSTRUCTING THESE SOONER. OKAY THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE OF INCLUDING THESE OKAY. AND THESE WOULD THESE ARE NOT THEIR INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS MEANING THEY'RE HAPPENING IN ADVANCE OF THE OVERALL RECONSTRUCTION BUT THEY'RE NOT TEMPORARY IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD BE THE PERMANENT WAY THAT THE STREETS WOULD BE BUILT GOING FORWARD, LET ME SAY WOULD BE THEY WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED NEAR TERM BUT THEY WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE LIKE FULL VISION. WHAT WE WOULD HAVE. SO THEY WANT TO BE LIKE RIPPED OUT AND REDONE AT THAT POINT THIS WOULD BE LIKE THE PERMANENT CONDITION THEY'RE IN TERM JUST IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD BE GET THEIR MASTER. OKAY. YEP. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANKS ME COUNSEL IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER ELIS AND JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY FUNDS ALREADY FOR THIS PROJECT OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF ANY IDEAS WHERE THEY WOULD BE COMING FROM ON ULTIMATE AND ON THAT ONE? COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER RIGHT NOW THAT THIS IS A STUDY THIS IS JUST TO DEVELOP THE VISION FOR THE CORRIDOR. IT'S NOT A PROPOSED PROJECT AT THIS TIME. BUT TO YOUR QUESTION WE WILL LOOK FOR SAFETY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO APPLY FOR FOR SOME OF THESE INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS IF THIS IF THIS RECOMMENDATION MOVES FORWARD AND THEN THE NORMAL PMP PROGRAM AND THEN WE'LL ALSO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ROADWAY ROADWAY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. SO THERE ARE OTHER REGIONAL SOLICITATIONS AND WE BRING THOSE FORWARD TO YOU EVERY TWO YEARS. THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE RECOMMEND TRYING TO DO FUNDING APPLICATIONS FOR PROJECTS SO WE WOULD KIND OF BE ON THE LOOKOUT AND INCLUDE THIS IN OUR OUR LIST OF PROJECTS AND I'M I'M A WORRIED TO DO IT THERE ARE A LARGE AMOUNTS OF FUNDING FOR SAFETY ROAD SAFETY PROGRAMS AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUT AND I UNDERSTAND THE CITIES IT'S AMAZING HOW THE CITY MOVES ON PROCURING FEDERAL GRANTS I YOU KNOW WHEN SOMETIMES I'M TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I LEARNED FROM FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I BELONG TO I DID WITH THE FERAL FERAL ADVOCACY GROUP SOMETIMES THEY ARE THEY ARE ALREADY APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND IT'S ALL YOU KNOW THAT'S OUT THERE NOW I KNOW THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF US. DO THE ONLY ONE THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE PROBABLY TRY TO PUT MORE GREEN SPACES INSTEAD OF ADDING MORE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE TO TO DO SO OTHER THAN THAT I MEAN IT'S IT'S IDEAL BUT LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON SUGGESTED MAYBE JUST COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW. I KNOW THIS THIS YEAR WE'VE SEEN THIS IN RICHFIELD AND THE PROPOSITION FOR NICOLLET AVENUE ALSO IT'S IT'S A YOU KNOW IT'S IT LOOKS GOOD I JUST WONDER WHY IT WAS DESIGN AS BIG AS IT IS IF YOU NEVER GOT THE TRAFFIC THAT PROBABLY WAS TIED UP RIGHT I MEAN IT'S A NICE PLACE IT I'M FINE IF IT GOES A DIFFERENT WAY BUT I LOVE RIDING THERE ON MY BIKE THAT AREA IS QUIET TRAFFIC BUT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FOR PROGRESS IS GOOD BUT YEAH THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MORE GREEN SPACES. I KNOW IT REQUIRES HIGHER MAINTENANCE IF WE HAVE ASPHALT CONCRETE ON OR CONCRETE ON THE SIDEWALKS. RIGHT SO BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I JUST CURIOUS THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THIS OFFICIALLY IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING BUT IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY. SO AT THIS TIME I WANT TO OPEN UP OUR PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY AND ITEM 4.1 THIS IS REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR VISION STUDY IS SO ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO HIM 4.1 THIS EVENING PLEASE COME FORWARD. DID YOU GUYS YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SIGN IN? THAT'S COOL. YEAH. I LIKED A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS IDEAS ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE ON THE QUARTER PROJECT SO THERE'S THAT TWO WAY LOOKS LIKE OPTION C WAS KIND OF A PICKED OPTION FROM THE PUBLIC. I WAS WONDERING IF THE THOUGHT WAS TO BRING OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE TWO WAY BIKE LANE AND THE SIDEWALK ON THE ONE SIDE. HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT JUST ELIMINATING IT, JUST PUTTING GREEN SPACE ON A WHOLE OTHER SIDE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IF YOU GUYS I KNOW IT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE BUT I JUST PRO GREEN YOU KNOW JUST MAKE THE OTHER SIDE GREEN AND JUST I BROUGHT UP SIDEWALK FOLLOWING IS A THING THAT EXTRA MAINTENANCE TO PLOW EXTRA EXTRA ASPHALT SO SAVE ON ASPHALT GO MORE GREEN ON THE PROJECT SO LET'S SEE I GOT TO SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. ALL OTHERS WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR ITEM 4.1 PRIORITY WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. >> MAYOR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL NOBODY COMING FORWARD I WILL OFFICIALLY CLOSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY ON THAT IN 4.1 AND LOOK FOR COUNCIL COMMENT QUESTIONS OR INFORMATION ON THIS ONE AND ULTIMATELY ACTION. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR I BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS I WOULD SAY PREDOMINANTLY AGAINST MAKING CHANGES. WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? THE ROADS FINE, ALL OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF WHICH IS FAIR. I MEAN THEY'RE USING IT AND IT'S WORKING WELL FOR THEM. SO THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A POSITIVE THING. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THAT I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHY DO PEOPLE DRIVE SO FAST ON THEIR MY KIDS CAN'T CROSS THAT ROAD. IT'S TOO WIDE. IT'S VERY UNSAFE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO COUNTRYSIDE PARK, THAT TYPE OF THING. I WILL SAY THAT THE CONCERNS DIFFER THERE. THERE ARE THREE SECTIONS TO THIS ROAD SOUTH OF OLD SHAKOPEE SORT OF GOING PAST DRED SCOTT, OLD SHAKOPEE UP TO PIONEER TRAIL AND THEN PIONEER TRAIL UP TO 169 AND FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE AND FROM MY OWN USAGE OF IT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. AND SO AS WE DEVELOP THIS INTO PLANS FROM VISION AND I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE DIFFERENCES AND THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE VERY GOOD BIKE FACILITIES ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS GETTING PEOPLE DOWN INTO THE THE RIVER BOTTOMS THEY'RE GETTING OUT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, A LITTLE STEEP. SO SO NOT A BIG DEAL IN MY CAR. BUT THOUGH FOR THOSE OF YOU ON BIKES IT'S A LITTLE TOUGHER AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT STAFF WAS VERY CLEAR THAT MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE ON THIS AND IT IS NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS PREEMPTIVELY. IT IS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO THESE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS WILL DO THEM, YOU KNOW, AT A TIME THAT MAKES SENSE SO THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE WELL WHY ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OUT A PERFECTLY GOOD ROAD AND REDO IT AND RELATE WHERE THE ROAD HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT AND REDONE AT SOME POINT AND AND SO WE'RE TIMING IT TO THAT. I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE INTERIM THINGS IN THERE FOR SAFETY. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT HAVE HAD NEAR MISSES. I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS ONE FATALITY SOMEBODY CROSSING OVER BY COUNTRYSIDE AND GOING OVER TO THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET. AND SO THERE ARE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE SAFETY ISSUES THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE I THINK IS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. SO I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THIS AGAIN, I THINK THE MAIN COMMENT THAT I HEARD FROM MOST PEOPLE IS IT'S FINE, DON'T CHANGE IT. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU TALK WITH THEM THE UNDERLYING ISSUES ARE THERE WITH REGARDS TO SPEED SAFETY CROSSINGS, EVEN THE GREEN SPACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO AND SO THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK ON THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THIS AS IT GOES MORE INTO DEVELOPMENT AND WE GET MORE PUBLIC INPUT ON THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS WHICH AGAIN IS NOT GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR. IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE LINE OTHER THAN THE IMMEDIATE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE COST EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON AND A VERY GOOD POINT THAT I MEAN THE TWO VERY GOOD POINTS THAT THIS IS IT IT'S WORKING WELL NOW BUT IT HAS CHANGED AND THE USES CAN CHANGE WITH IT AS WELL AND BUT I ALSO AGREE 100% THAT THERE'S NO SENSE IN TEARING UP GOOD PAVEMENT WHEN IT'S TIME TO REPLACE THIS WE CAN CONSIDER THIS AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS A THIS IS A STUDY NOT A PLAN AND TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT UNIQUE SECTIONS OF IT AND ENDED UP YOU KNOW ADOPTING FORMAL BUILDING PLAN ACCORDINGLY SO AGREE COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE I JUST WANT MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS PROJECT PRETTY MUCH PAYS FOR ITSELF, YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT YEAR AFTER YOU KIND OF GET IT DONE IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY I MEAN OR MY OR MY VISION? COUNCILMEMBER LOHMANN YEAH WE DID DO THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE FUTURE CONDITIONS FOR FULL RECONSTRUCT AND THEN FOR FUTURE OVERLAYS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT UNDER OUR THE WAY WE MAINTAIN OUR ROADS WHERE WE DO THE RECONSTRUCT AND THEN LIKE 20 YEARS LATER WE DO AN OVERLAY AND ANOTHER ULTIMATE ALLEY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LIFE IT DOES IT DOES PAY FOR ITSELF OR LIKE BENEFIT IF WE COME UP TO A BENEFIT BUT THAT'S A VERY LONG TERM VISION. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS JUST AS AS YOU'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS TAKING THE LONG TERM IS TT ALSO INCLUDE THE SIDEWALK COMPONENT OF THAT. SO THE SIDEWALK PORTION IS INCLUDED IN THE ESTIMATE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARDER WE STILL BECAUSE OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR OUR SIDEWALKS ANDRAILS IS A LITTLE NEWER. I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THE FULL LIKE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK YOU KNOW WE DON'T DO AN OVERLAY FOR THAT SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS DETAIL ON THAT PART. WE ALSO THEN LOOKED AT JUST THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A WASH AS FAR AS WE DON'T GET A HUGE SAVINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF LIKE SNOW REMOVAL MAINTENANCE AND THOSE TYPES OF MAINTENANCE. WE'RE ADDING MORE OFF ROAD FACILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE OFF ROAD FACILITIES. IT IS EASIER TO PLOW THE MULTI-USE TRAIL BECAUSE THEY CAN USE A TRUCK WITH THAT THAT KIND OF IS A WASH ON THE REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE LANES AND ADDING A MULTI-USE CHANNEL. SO WHEN WE G INTO THE WEEDS YOU ANTICIPATED MY MY OTHER QUESTION. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I THINK JUST REALLY QUICKLY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION WITH JULIE LONG LIKE TWO YEARS AGO AND I WAS A BIG FAN OF OF DOING THIS LARGELY FOR TWO REASONS ONE BECAUSE GETTING MORE GREENSPACE BACK IS GOOD AND REDUCING THE PUMP IS GOOD. I AM AS YOU KNOW NO BIG FAN OF THE PUMP SO ANY TIME I CAN SAY WE DIDN'T SPEND AS MUCH MONEY ON ROADS I LOVE THAT. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AND THANK YOU FOR THE COST ESTIMATES BECAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. I AGREE I'M PROBABLY LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO TO LESS UPFRONT LIKE I LIKE THE 3 MILLION NOT THE 6 MILLION INVESTMENT SO I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE B CAMPAIGNS HE CAN'T BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TOO RELEVANT FOR TODAY OTHER THAN TO SAY WE IF WE CAN GET A LONG TERM BENEFIT THAT SAYS YOU KNOW THERE'S SIX, TEN, $12 MILLION OF OF OF COSTS WE'RE NOT BEARING ON THIS BECAUSE WE'VE RIGHTSIZE THE ROAD FOR THE FOR THE FUTURE AND WE'VE GIVEN BACK SOME GREEN SPACE. I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY REALLY GOOD. THANKS. THANK YOU. ALSO IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.1. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SURE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION SO I AM MAKING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR VISION STUDY INCLUDING CORE REVISION PREFERRED CONCEPT C WITH FUTURE PROJECT DESIGN WORKING TO PRESERVE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE POSSIBLE AND TO INTERIM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE CORRIDOR STRIPING CHANGES, INTERSECTION CONTROL MODIFICATIONS AND CROSSWALK ENHANCEMENTS. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR VISION STUDY AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD WORK ON THIS. WHO SAYS IT'S GOOD LOOKING STUDY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL AS WE MOVE TO ITEM 4.2 AND I'LL SAY THIS TO STAFF AS WELL WE ARE ALREADY AT 740 AND WE STILL HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND TWO RATHER LARGE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH AND THE END OF THE YEAR IS NINE. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4.2 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE ADOPT OF THE REGARDING THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ADOPTION OF THAT. MR. KIRK ROBERTS IS HERE THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. ROBERTS. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. I'LL BE QUICK ON THIS ONE FOR SURE. COUNSEL YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE STUDY. WE WENT TO THE COUNCIL IS THIS KICKED OFF ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH AS WELL AND THEN AS WE WRAPPED UP A MONTH OR SO IN OCTOBER EXCUSE ME ON THE RESULTS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DID AND WHY WE DID IT. AMERICAN BOULEVARD THAT MAIN AREAS THAT WE WERE FOCUSED ON OUR FIRST TRANSIT AMERICAN BOULEVARD WITH THE CONCENTRATION OF JOBS BUSINESSES HOUSING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PRIME AREA FOR A BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINE. THE CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD THAT IN OUR LONG TERM PLANS AND SO THAT WAS OUR FIRST GOAL WAS TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WHEN METRO TRANSIT REVIEWED IT LAST THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS AS VIABLE. WE DISAGREE. AND SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY POINT OF THIS STUDY IS KEEP THOSE CONVERSATIONS GOING ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT A BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. SECOND TO THAT, ONE OF THE REASONS IT DIDN'T DO WELL IS THAT THE LAND USE IS A LITTLE LESS SUPPORTIVE THAN SOME OF OUR TRANSIT PARTNERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT LAND USE. IS IT GOING THE DIRECTION THE CITY WANTS, THE LAND USE TO GO OUT THERE? IT HAS CHANGED RAPIDLY IN RECENT YEARS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE. DO WE WANT TO GUIDE THAT? AND THEN THE LAST PART IS INFRASTRUCTURE. IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THE MOST FRIENDLY PLACE FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HOSTILE TO THAT. CAN WE DO BETTER ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT TRANSIT? THOSE ARE THE THREE PRIMARY GOALS IN TERMS OF TRANSIT THERE WERE FOUR ALTERNATIVE LINES THAT WERE CONSIDERED ALL STARTING OUT AT THE MALL OF AMERICA AND THEN HEADING WEST ACROSS THE CITY OF THOSE CANDIDATES TO US DID WELL. THE METRO TRANSIT IS INTERESTED IN IN CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS ON THOSE. THE FIRST IS A TRANSIT LINE FOR MALL OF AMERICA OVER TO UP INTO A DINER VIA FRANCE AVENUE UP INTO THE MALL THERE IN A DINER AND THEN THE SECOND AND HIGHEST RANKING LINE IS A CONTINUATION OF ROUTE FOUR FROM MINNEAPOLIS RIGHT NOW ROUTE FOUR CURRENTLY COMES DOWN AND TERMINATES AROUND PENN AVENUE AND 82ND STREET RIGHT IN THAT AREA WITH THE TRANSIT SERVICE STATION. THIS CONCEPT WOULD JUST EXTEND THAT LINE OVER TO THE MALL OF AMERICA AND THAT DID VERY WELL. SO WE'VE GOT TWO TRANSIT LINES TO TAKE INTO THE FUTURE WITH IN TERMS OF LAND USE. WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE CANONIZED IN THIS PLAN JUST HOW TO CONTINUE TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR SPECIAL USE DISTRICTS, THE NEXT STEPS ON THOSE OR PUT THOSE RIGHT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WE GO INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE NEXT YEAR. ONE OTHER THING WE LOOKED AT IS DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR. HOW LIKELY IS IT TO OCCUR? IT'S PRETTY LIKELY TO REOCCUR AND DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY LIKELY TO OCCUR ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. SO IT'S GOOD TIMING. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC EXTENSIVELY TO SEE WHAT THEY WANTED ALONG THE CORRIDOR OR WHAT WOULD HELP THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT USING IT TRANSIT RIDERS DRIVERS PEDESTRIANS CYCLISTS AND WE DEVELOPED A FUTURE CONCEPT FOR TESTING AS THIS CORRIDOR IS RECONSTRUCTED SO YOU GET A TRANSIT LINE. WE'VE GOT SOME LAND USE CHANGES TO START PUTTING INTO PLACE NEXT YEAR AND WE'VE GOT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IN MIND AND THE LAST THING IS THE TIMING TRANSIT. WE WILL HEAR BACK FROM METRO TRANSIT. WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM IN JANUARY TO TALK ABOUT THEIR EVALUATION ON THE NEXT ARTERIAL BRT LINES AND HOW THESE ROUTES LOOK IN TERMS OF THAT AND WHAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH NEXT. SO IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THESE. WE'LL ALSO START WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. THE CITY OF EDINA HAVE BEEN COUNTY SEEING WHAT INTERESTS THEY HAVE IN THESE PLANS LAND USE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL GO RIGHT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE STARTING NEXT YEAR. THE COUNCIL WILL OBVIOUSLY BE VERY INVOLVED IN THAT AND THAT WORK WRAPS UP IN 2028 AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURE IS THE LAST PART AND THIS IS THE THING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE LONGEST. AS YOU ALL KNOW THE CORRIDORS VERY BUSY RIGHT NOW WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE ON FOR 94. THE VOLUMES THEY VARY, THEY FLUCTUATE BUT THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT RIGHT NOW. AND SO AS THOSE PROJECTS COME ON LINE ON THE 494 AND TRAFFIC STARTS TO START USING THE FREEWAY AGAIN LIKE WE'D LIKE IT TO DO, WE'LL WATCH THE VOLUMES HERE AND THEN WE CAN START PLANNING FOR THE SPECIFIC CORRIDORS OR THE WAY THE CORRIDOR WILL LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY CONTENTIOUS PART OF THIS STUDY WAS THAT CROSS SECTION I SHOWED YOU BEFORE AND THIS IS WHY IT'S A CONCEPT FOR TESTING. SO WHEN WE START WHEN TRAFFIC VOLUMES START TO MODERATE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND WE START TO KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND AS WE START TO LINE UP PROJECTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR TRANSIT PARTNERS AND OTHER FOLKS USING THE CORRIDOR, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT THAT THOSE NEW VOLUMES AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT PARTS OF THIS REALLY EXCELLENT CROSS SECTION CAN WE START INCORPORATING ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THIS IS A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO LAST FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS AND OUT INTO THE FUTURE. SO WE HAVE THIS IS A PLACE TO START THOSE CONVERSATIONS. IT'S A IT'S A CROSS SECTION THAT'S DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY'VE PLACED THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES ON FOR THE CORRIDOR. SO WITH THAT WE WERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 10TH. SO THIS PLAN COMES WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THAT BODY. WE ARE HERE SEEKING COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE PLAN AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO. THANK YOU MR. ROBERTS. I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME PROOF OF CONCEPTS FOR A NUMBER OF THESE IDEAS IN THE PREFERRED CONCEPT FOR TESTING INCLUDING THE DEDICATED BUS LANES AND THEN THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THOSE ARE WORKING IN OTHER AREAS SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES? I KNOW THERE ARE THEY'RE COMMON ACROSS THE COUNTRY LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE TWIN CITIES WHEN YOU DEAL WITH WITH SNOW AND WITH WINTER AND SO ON. ANY INSIGHTS ON THAT? YES, MR. MAYOR, THEY'RE BEING SEEN MORE AND MORE AS THE AREA DENSIFY AS WE SEE THESE FREQUENTLY AND THEY'RE WORKING WELL TO MY KNOWLEDGE. ONE THING IS THE MAINTENANCE IS EASY ON THEM. YOU CAN JUST RUN THAT PLOW RIGHT DOWN THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE METRO TRANSIT STAFF COME OUT AND MAINTAIN THOSE FACILITIES. THEY CAN JUST BE PICKED UP AND MAINTAINED EASILY THE THEIR USE IS BECOMING MORE COMMON AND SO THE WAY THAT PEOPLE OPERATE WITH THEM IS BECOMING A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTOOD TOO. FOR INSTANCE IN SOME CASES THEY CAN ACT AS A RIGHT TURN LANE AND THOSE THOSE LAWS AROUND THAT ARE STARTING TO BE ARTICULATED AND UNDERSTOOD MORE WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY SHORT SEGMENT OF TRANSIT ONLY LANE ON KNOX AVENUE ON THE NORTHBOUND APPROACH TO AMERICAN BOULEVARD IT'S BUS ONLY RIGHT THERE SO WE'VE GOT A TINY SLIVER OF THAT IN AND HOPE TO SEE MORE. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. ROBERTS? COUNCILMEMBER LAMIA MY QUESTION ABOUT THE BUS LANES IS THERE ANY STATE RULES OR REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE? THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. IF WE'RE DEDICATING SOME LANE TO THIS. MR. ABBOTT YEAH. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFICS SO THERE JUST BE ENFORCED AND REGULATED AS POSTED ON THE GROUND. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, ONE QUICK QUESTION. ISN'T THERE ALREADY BUS TRANSIT FROM SOUTHWEST TRANSIT ON THIS CORRIDOR? MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THERE IS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT. SO EARLIER THIS YEAR IN THE FALL SOUTHWEST TRANSIT STARTED TO IMPLEMENT TRANSIT SERVICE ALONG PARTS OF THE CORRIDOR AND THEN UP INTO RICHFIELD AND ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE THE AIRPORT. THAT'S STANDARD LOCAL SERVICE. IT'S NOT A BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINE BUT YES THERE IS TRANSIT. THERE'S ALSO METRO TRANSIT PROVIDES LOCAL SERVICE ALONG THE CORRIDOR AS WELL. JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP PLEASE. IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, WHAT WHAT ARE THE COSTS WHAT ARE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IF IF WE APPROVE THIS? MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. SO JUST AS OUTLINED IN THE PROCESS GOING FOR THE NEXT STEPS REALLY ARE TO SEE WHAT METRO TRANSIT DOES WHERE THESE ROUTES START TO FALL OUT IN THEIR RANKINGS AND HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM. THAT'S ON THE TRANSIT FRONT. THE NEXT OBVIOUSLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO BE UPDATED HERE STARTING NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS LARGE SIDE DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WISHES TO GO IN ADOPTING THE PLAN AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHAT TRANSIT DECIDES TO DO. THEN WE START PROGRAMING THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS AND WE START TRYING TO FIND FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S FIVE YEARS AT A MINIMUM BEFORE WE START TO SEE ANY OF THOSE THINGS COME TO FRUITION OUT TO THE 20 YEAR PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING. IT'S A VERY LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE WE'RE WORKING ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORK BEFORE GOING TO WORK ON NO MATTER WHAT AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER AND TRANSIT WHICH WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. AND THEN IF THINGS COME TO FRUITION THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON AND LOOK AT FURTHER. THERE ARE PROGRAM YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO AS WE START TO LOOK AT MAINTENANCE ON THE ROAD FOR INSTANCE AS WE START TO DEVELOP OUR MAINTENANCE WHICH IS ONGOING FOR PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE THEN WE START TO FACTOR IN YOU KNOW WHAT'S METRO TRANSIT DOING? DO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CROSS SECTIONS OF THIS ROADWAY? THEN WE START DOING THAT TRAFFIC MODELING AND DEVELOPING THOSE PROJECTS? YES. SO IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT HAVE TO START ONCE THIS PLAN IS APPROVED. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANK YOU. SO DESCRIBE DESCRIBE AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ALLUDED TO THERE ARE THERE ARE BUS ROUTES IN THERE LOCAL BUS ROUTES ON ON AMERICAN BOULEVARD. ANYWAY, WHAT DISTINGUISHES THE BLOOMINGTON THE RAPID TRANSIT FUNCTION AND WHAT IS THE WHAT IS LIKE THE GUARANTEED RATE OF TRANSIT THAT WE WOU EXPECT FROM THAT COUNCIL IN ORDER IN EXCHANGE FOR A DEDICATED LANE FOR BUSSES FOR EXAMPLE? BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT TO ASK FOR A CITY ROAD, ESPECIALLY AMERICAN BOULEVARD WHICH IS KIND OF BUSY. I'M ALL FOR IT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GO THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WANT WHICH IS RAPID TRANSIT LIKE I'M EXPECTING EVERY 15 MINUTES I CAN GET ON A BUS KIND OF THING AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE SLA IS THAT WE GET FROM THEM IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT THAT RIGHT AWAY. YEAH, WE'RE BUSY. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO YEAH. SO THE IN TERMS OF THE BUS RAPID TRANSIT, THE ENHANCEMENT THERE IS JUST IT'S A MUCH HIGHER CAPACITY LINE IN TERMS OF MOVING THE PUBLIC. IT'S THE HIGHER FREQUENCY SERVICE, THE LIMITED STOPS GETS PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE GOING MUCH FASTER AND SO IT CARRIES MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAN A STANDARD BUS LINE. SO YOU YOU OBVIOUSLY KNEW THAT IN TERMS OF THE DEDICATED TRANSIT LINE THAT IS IN TERMS OF THEIR RETURN WHEN WE GET A BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINE AND THAT IS A LONG TERM TRANSIT ROUTE THAT STAYS INTO THE FUTURE JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WITH A LIGHT RAIL LINE THAT WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THE SOUTH LOOP TO THE MALL OF AMERICA. AND SO THEN WE NEGOTIATE THAT USE OF THE PUBLIC SPACE, THE PUBLIC ROADWAY. IS IT WORTH DEDICATING A BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR TRANSIT ONLY LANE TO THEM FOR THAT? DOES IT INCREASE THEIR RUNNING TIME? DOES IT IMPROVE THE RELIABILITY? AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WE HAVE WITH THEM. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DIRECT AND MORE DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THAN THAT. IT'S A POINT OF NEGOTIATION THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION PARTNERS. QUICK FOLLOW UP IF AGAIN WOULD YOU EXPECT A CERTAIN MINIMUM? YOU KNOW, JUST IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AND WITH YOUR EXPERTISE, WOULD YOU EXPECT A CERTAIN MINIMUM IN THAT AREA LIKE LIKE EVERY 15 MINUTES, EVERY 20 MINUTES? AND I THINK THE THE ORANGE LINE IS RUNNING EVERY 15 MINUTES OR SO RIGHT NOW. SO IS THAT IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT AND THEN YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF INTO THE EVENING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EXTENDED HOURS, THAT KIND OF THING? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YEAH COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO 15 MINUTES IS THE STANDARD RUN TIME FOR THE BUS RAPID TRANSIT LINE. I THINK THEY'VE VARIED THAT A LITTLE BIT DURING THE PANDEMIC THAT THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD IS THAT 15 MINUTE RUNNING TIME. THEY ALSO EXTEND THE HOURS OVER A LOCAL SERVICE SO THEY'RE RUNNING LATER INTO THE NIGHT AND AS WELL AS THE WEEKENDS SOMETIMES THEY'LL REDUCE THE SERVICE FREQUENCY ON THE WEEKENDS TO MAYBE A HALF AN HOUR LIKE THE ORANGE LINE DOES. BUT YEAH, SO YOU GET THESE LONGER RUNNING HOURS, YOU GET IT IS QUICKER RUNNING TIMES AND THEN YOU GET THAT EXTENDED WEEKEND SERVICE TOO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THAT. COUNSEL ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH HAS THE CITY INVESTED IN THIS STUDY SO FAR? YEAH, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I'M HAPPY TO TO FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE COST OF THE STUDIES THAT THE CITY MANAGER IF YOU LIKE AND IT WILL BE NICE TO SEE. YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, LIKE THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES THESE BUSSES ARE GOING TO BE COMING OVER THERE. SO ALL THIS INVESTMENT AT THIS POINT IS JUST BEING MADE WITH THE POSSIBLE CITY OF GETTING THOSE TWO LINES RIGHT. I MEAN I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS A BIG STUDY ON THE TRAIN COMING OVER TO THE MALL OF AMERICA ON THE NORTH SIDE BY IKEA AND IT WAS ALL CANCELED AFTER A LARGE INVESTMENT OF FUNDS IN THE STUDY. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SOUNDED TOO MENTAL HERE BUT I MEAN THAT'S IN MOST CASES RIGHT NOW AS BUSY AS I AMERICAN BOULEVARD IS IT WOULDN'T SUPPORT THE TWO LINES BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA TO TO SUPPORT TWO LINES YOU KNOW SO I, I JUST FOR YOU A LOT OF THE TIMES WE'RE JUST MAKING THE INVESTMENTS WITHOUT HAVING ANY RETURNS JUST BECAUSE WE WON CERTAIN THINGS. BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE NEEDED MONEY AT THIS POINT REALLY A LOT OF THE BUSSES IN THE AREA OF WHEN I HAPPENED TO DRIVE AROUND THERE ARE EMPTY HOMELESS YOU KNOW 2 OR 3 PEOPLE RIDING THEM SO I JUST QUESTION WHAT WE DO AT TIMES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF USE FOR IT BUT YOU KNOW MAYBE IN THE FUTURE I DON'T KNOW HOPEFULLY ALL THAT AREA DEVELOPS THE WAY THAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED TO. I NEED ACTUALLY TO EASE THE NEED FOR THIS AT THIS POINT. I MEAN AT LEAST IN MY VIEW IT MIGHT FROM WHAT I PERCEIVE THAT THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER REVERSE ARE YOU DID YOU WANT AN ANSWER TO THAT OR DID YOU EVER YEAH THE IT'S A COMBINATION THAT PLAN BEATS NO PLAN AND BLOOMINGTON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION AND WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR PLANNING WORK WHETHER THAT'S THE BLUE LINE THAT WAS THE FIRST LRT LINE IN THE STATE THAT CAME THROUGH AND INTO BLOOMINGTON OR YOU KNOW OUR LAND USE PLANS THE WAY THAT WE GUIDE DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE VALUE IN IS WELL IT'S OUR ABILITY TO SET THE VISION WHAT DO WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY TO SEE FOR THAT CORRIDOR? ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING? ARE WE CONTENT, YOU KNOW WITH THE WAY THE PUBLIC IS BEING SERVED ON THAT TRANSPORTATION? DO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A BETTER HIGHER USE OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE, THAT PUBLIC REALM, THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? SO I THINK THAT'S THE VALUE IN THE PLANS IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO SET THE FUTURE. IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TRANSIT PARTNERS AND REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TRANSIT SERVICE FOR THE PUBLIC AND AND BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY ON THOSE THAT THE OTHER AGENCIES UNDERSTAND OUR INTENT. I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> WELL, IT'S MEMORY OF US THAT IT DOES. I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T QUESTION THE ABILITY TO TO EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF THESE WHAT WHAT I FIND VERY DIFFICULT IS THE FACT THAT IN ORDER FOR THE TRANSIT TO WORK HE HAS TO HAVE THE PUBLIC DEMAND OF IT AND AS IT IS EVERYTHING IS IN THE DRAWING BOARD RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE THE BELLMAN BLOWING UP IN THAT AREA IS STILL IN THE AREA LOOKS THE WAY IT HAS LOOKED FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, MAYBE MORE. I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE IN THERE AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FORCE THE ISSUE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AND AGAIN I GO BACK TO THAT PLAN THAT THEY HAD BIG PLANS FOR THE TRAIN COMING OVER FROM THE NORTH SIDE GOING ACROSS THE RIVER DOORS ALWAYS THE MALL OF AMERICA AND IT ALL FELL APART AFTER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INVESTMENT PLANNING IT YOU KNOW IDEA MATERIALIZE AT ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY WORRY BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I MEAN IT'S REALLY ME TOO HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I'M I I'M ALL FOR THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE GET THE FUNDS TO DO ALL THIS? RIGHT. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EXPLANATION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IT ON 4.2 REGARDING ME AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THEM? 4.2 THIS EVENING IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MAYOR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE. LAST CALL ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COUNCIL? NO ONE ON THE PHONE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2. I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 SO MOVED GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER NO, I'D BOSTON WOMAN I KNOW YOU WANT US TO BE QUICK BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE QUICKLY HERE I JUST SAY THIS YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I'M VERY INTERESTED IN TRYING TO DO THIS PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S A DIALOG I THINK THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE WITH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THIS AREA. IF WE MAKE A REDUCTION AND GO TO HAVE A BUSTLING IN THERE ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THAT THAT FOR A FOR SERVES AS A RELIEVER FOR BOTH FOR A FOR AND FOR THAT WHOLE AREA AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT IMPACT IS AS WE CONTINUE TO STUDY IT HAVE THAT DIALOG WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND THE BUSINESS ACCESS IF WE DO DO THAT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW IS THE IMPACT THERE? SO I'M HOPING THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS STUDY WE CAN LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THOSE ITEMS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IF NOT COUNCILMEMBER NIEMEYER. YEAH I'M INTERESTED IN THIS PLAN TOO. I RATHER HAVE A PLAN THAN I A PLAN EVERY BUSINESS UNIT I'VE EVER RUN WE ALWAYS DO PLANS EVEN IF THEY DON'T COME IN TO ANYTHING BECAUSE MOVING FORWARD WITH NOTHING DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY ISN'T WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TOMORROW. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT AMERICAN BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO REASON FOR PEOPLE TO BE THERE WHO WANTS TO GO UP AND DOWN AMERICAN BOULEVARD. NOBODY WANTS A WAREHOUSES EVERYTHING'S RUNDOWN DILAPIDATED SO I THINK WE'RE RIGHT. WHERE DO FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA AND I RATHER HAVE A PLAN WE'RE CONSIDERING SOMETHING TO SUPPORT THAT REDEVELOPMENT AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS SPECIFIC CONTROL OVER THE EXAMPLE OF THE TRAIN COMING OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN THAT WAS WITH THE STATE WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES, MULTIPLE CITIES WE HAD LIMITED VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER THAT BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER AND SO I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD SOMETHING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AND NECESSARILY TODAY. THANKS. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I'M READY TO MAKE THE MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND MOVED TO ADOPT THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.3 IN OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. THIS IS OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING OR EXCUSE ME OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. OUR THIRD ITEM UNDER ITEM FOR THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE A PUBLIC PLAZA AREA RELATED TO THE MOLLY WATER PARK EXTENSION OF A DEADLINE AND RESOLUTION OF SUMMARY. BOB SIMONS IS GOING TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL OF THIS FOR US. MR. SIMONS GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WILL PINCH HIT ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY SHOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK. AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT FOR THE ORDINANCE TO VACATE THE PUBLIC PLAZA AREA OVER LINDA LANE FOR THEM ONLY WATER PARK AN EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE AND RESOLUTION OF SUMMARY PUBLICATION. I AM ALWAYS LAND HOLDINGS HAD REQUESTED TO AMEND EXISTING ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 27 WHICH PARTIALLY VACATES THE RIGHT AWAY OF LINDA LANE ON THE PLAZA AREA OVER LINDA LANE IT'S BASICALLY EXTENDING THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THE DATE WAS DECEMBER 31ST TO 2025. THIS IS EXTENDING IT TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2027. THE CITY WILL STILL WHEN THIS VACATION WOULD COME INTO PLAY THE CITY WILL STILL RETAIN THE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE BASICALLY FROM THE BRIDGE DECK DOWN SO THERE WON'T BE ANY IMPEDING OF EXISTING TRAFFIC. THIS VACATION WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNLESS PRIOR TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2027 THE LONG CLOSING FOR THE FULL FINANCING OF THE WATER PARK PROJECT HAS COME THROUGH AND AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER PARK IMPROVEMENTS HAS COMMENCED WHICH MAY INCLUDE DEMOLITION OR EXCAVATION. SO BEFORE US TONIGHT ARE THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 OR 2025 WHICH IS MODIFY THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST EXTENDING THE DEADLINE TO 2027. AND THEN ALSO WITH THAT IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY AND PUBLICATION FOR THAT AMENDMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE AND THAT'S THAT'S THANK YOU MUCH MR. SIMONDS QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCIL PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD JUST BASICALLY EXTENDING THE DEADLINE A COUPLE OF YEARS SO WE CAN SEE THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION POSSIBLY NO QUESTIONS COUNCIL I WILL OPEN THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE THE PUBLIC PLAZA AREA RELATED TO THE MAUI WATERPARK EXTENSION OF A DEADLINE AND RESOLUTION OF SUMMARY IS ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER IS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING . >> PIANO CAN WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE HERE? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONES. ONE MORE CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS COUNCIL. NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER IS COMING FORWARD. NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO HIM FOR A POINT THREE I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FOUR POINT SOLD MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIOS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT I LOOK FOR ACTION. >> COUNCILMEMBER YOU MAYOR MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE MODIFYING NUMBER 2024 DASH 27 RELATING TO THE PARTIAL APPLICATION OF LINDA LANE, FORMERLY KNOWN AS EAST 81ST STREET AS DEDICATED IN AIRPORT SOUTH ADDITION MALL OF AMERICA MALL OF AMERICA FIFTH EDITION AND MALL OF AMERICA EIGHTH EDITION. ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS RECOR RECORDED PLATS THERE OF HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE MODIFYING THE ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE PARTIAL VATION OF LINDA LANE AS STATED BY COUNCILMEMBER NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER SUMMARY PUBLICATION THE MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY APPLICATION OF ORDINANCE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 27 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF ITEM 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING AND THIS IS ITEM 4.4 REGARDING AN ORDINANCE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT ERIC HOLTHAUS AND JACKIE DUNN. I NEVER SEE YOUR NAME CORRECTLY JOHN CABBAGE. DON CABBAGE THANK YOU DON CABBAGE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL . WE'RE HERE FOLLOWING UP ON THE TOPIC OF CITY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE WILL SHARE A BRIEF BACKGROUND OF THE ENGAGEMENT AND THEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATES AND CHANGES MOVING FORWARD. I THINK . OKAY. SO AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH ON THE TOPIC OF CITY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, STAFF WERE DIRECTED TO ENGAGE AFFECTED PARTIES, GATHER FEEDBACK AND PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A CONSISTENT PROCESS AND GUIDELINES FOR CITY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO FEEDBACK WAS COLLECTED OVER THOSE MONTHS FOLLOWING VIA THE ANNUAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBER ENGAGEMENT SURVEY FOCUSED CONVERSATIONS WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND FOCUSED CONVERSATION WITH STAFF LIAISONS. THEN ON JUNE 30TH JUNE 30TH SORRY CITY COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH OPTIONS FOR INVOLVEMENT BASED ON ENGAGEMENT FINDINGS. RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED UPDATES IN KEY AREAS INCLUDING REGULAR TOUCH POINTS FOR CONNECTION AND FEEDBACK IMPROVING MENT OF TWO WAY SHARING OF INFORMATION AND PRIORITIES AND ADDRESSING COUNCIL REPRESENTATION ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TOUCH POINTS AND COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL AS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION REGARDING COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THANK YOU JACKIE. GOOD EVENING. ERIC HOLTHAUS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT MANAGER MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CARRY ON WITH THE PRESENTATION THANK YOU FOR THAT BACKGROUND AND TIMELINE. SO THIS WILL BE ON A SUMMARY OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED FOR BOTH BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ALSO STAFF LIAISONS AND THE ATTEMPT HERE WAS TO FIND SOMETHING THAT COULD REACH A GREATER LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY AND EXPERIENCE ACROSS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BE ATTENTIVE TO PEOPLE'S TIME, TIME AND EFFICIENCY AND INCLUDE PRODUCTIVE TOUCH POINTS AND DIALOG. WHAT WE HAD HEARD FROM BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS THROUGH THE ANNUAL SURVEY AND THIS IS A BRIEF SUMMARY AS COMPARED TO MORE DETAIL WAS SHARED IN JUNE. THERE WAS INTEREST IN REGULAR TOUCH POINTS AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH COUNCIL WE RECEIVED OF COURSE AS SURVEYS DO A DECENT RESPONSE RATE AROUND 30% A LITTLE BIT GREATER. THAT WAS COMPLEMENTED WITH A FOCUSED CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION SO WE COULD HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND GENERALLY SPEAKING WHAT WE HEARD AGAIN JUST A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY HERE FOLKS WERE SEEKING CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL TO BEST FULFILL THEIR ADVISORY ROLES AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN CREATING A CONSISTENT FEEDBACK LOOP AND COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO CITY LEADERSHIP ON PRIORITIES WHAT WORK IS MEANINGFUL FOR STAFF LIAISONS? THESE WERE FOCUSED CONVERSATION WITH ALL STAFF LIAISONS. THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR CLEAR DIRECTION ON INITIATIVES. THERE IS INTEREST IN MORE CONVERSATION WITH CITY COUNCIL TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING AND ALIGNMENT AND THESE ARE JUST TRYING TO GAIN HERE SOME VARIETY OF TESTIMONY AND RESPONSES. THERE'S ALSO SOME INTEREST, SOME EXPRESSION THAT CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATION ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS CAN RESULT IN AN UNINTENDED POWER IMBALANCE. AND SO ACTUALLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARED EARLIER I MEANT TO SHARE HERE BUT USEFUL NONETHELESS. SO REVIEWING THAT FEEDBACK FROM BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF LIAISONS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE OPERATIONALLY THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ENHANCE CONNECTIONS AND ALIGNMENT TO ACHIEVE THAT CONSISTENCY AND TO ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY WITH PEOPLE'S TIME AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MANY THINGS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE BUT TO HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THEM. SO COMMUNICATIONS THERE'S A BOARD AND COMMISSION CONNECT NEWSLETTER THIS IS A USEFUL VEHICLE FOR SHARING INFORMATION TWO WAYS WITH BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS ALSO EXPRESSED I BELIEVE IN A FORMER MEETING. I WILL KEEP MAKING SURE THAT BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE AWARE PERHAPS OF PUBLIC PROJECTS OR EVENTS THAT THEY COULD ATTEND SO FOLKS CAN BE IN THE PUBLIC AND PERHAPS THERE CAN BE SOME TOUCH POINTS WITH THE COUNCIL THERE AS WELL. ADDITIONALLY SUBSTANTIVELY IT WOULDN'T JUST BE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION. OF COURSE WE HAVE EXISTING TWICE ANNUAL BOARD AND COMMISSION CONNECT MEETINGS AND SO THIS WOULD CONTINUE BUT IT WOULD BE ENHANCED AS WELL AS THE INTENTION HERE TWICE ANNUALLY AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS STAFF LIAISONS OTHER CITY LEADERSHIP IS REGULARLY INVITED AND ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE INVITED. WHAT WE WOULD SEEK TO DO HERE IS FURTHER CLARIFY THE EXPECTATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL REPRESENTATION THAT THE MAYOR IDEALLY WOULD ATTEND HE TYPICALLY ATTENDS. SO THAT WOULD SORT OF BE AS IS WE GET SORT OF A SMATTERING OF ATTENDANCE FROM BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ALSO STAFF LIAISONS SO WE WOULD CLARIFY THE EXPECTATION THAT AT LEAST THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR WOULD BE THERE AND THAT STAFF LIAISONS WOULD BE THERE. WE WOULD WE HAVE TYPICALLY HAD WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE CONNECTING ACTIVITIES TO GET FOLKS TO KNOW EACH OTHER TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE AND OTHER COMMISSIONS OR MEET WITH THEIR OWN COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM. WE WOULD ALSO HAVE CONVERSATION AROUND PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD AND MAKE MORE REGULAR WOULD BE INTENTIONAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND WORK PLANS, WORK PLAN UPDATES AND ENSURE THAT BEATTY OR CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN CITY'S PRIORITIES CAN ALSO BE DISCUSSED UPDATES PROVIDED AND DIALOG HAD AND WHAT THIS IDEALLY THEN WOULD ACCOMPLISH OF COURSE IS MORE TOUCH POINTS AROUND WORKPLAN AND PRIORITIES MORE THAN JUST AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON WORK PLAN. SO THIS IS WHAT THAT'S TRYING TO ACHIEVE ALSO IN NOTE. SO THAT WOULD BE SORT OF REPEATED IN THE SPRING IN THE FALL TWICE ANNUAL AND ALSO THEN IN THE FALL AS YOU'LL SEE HERE THERE TO BE A CONVERSATION AT THAT SECOND BOARD AND COMMISSION CONNECT MEETING ON WHAT WOULD IT BE EXPECTED IN THE WORK PLANS WE WOULD ALSO OFFER THE FACILITATION NETWORK HERE AT THE CITY FACILITATORS IN THAT NETWORK WE'D OFFER THEIR TIME TO ENSURE A MORE CONSISTENT AND PERHAPS PRODUCTIVE AND INTENTIONAL WORK PLANNING PROCESS AND ALSO PRODUCT. AND THEN IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OF COURSE THIS TOUCH POINT WOULD REMAIN IT'S PART OF CITY CODE THAT WORK PLANS AN ANNUAL REPORT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT OF COURSE WOULD EXIST THE ADDITIONAL TOUCHPOINTS MANY OF THESE EXIST ALREADY THE BLOOMINGTON LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IT'S BEEN ANNUAL FOR SOME NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. THIS IS WHERE WE ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST ONE SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BOARD OF COMMISSION MEMBERS TO EXPOSE BLOOMINGTON LEADERSHIP PROGRAM COHORT MEMBERS TO WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS AND ITS MEMBERS ARE AND HOW BOARD AND COMMISSION BOARDING COMMISSIONS OPERATE. WE ALSO REGULARLY WE WOULD CONTINUE THIS NO DOUBT CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD OF COMMISSION MEMBERS ATTEND THE SELECTION MEETINGS FOR APPLICANTS AND THEN OF COURSE YOU ARE SELECTING YOUR APPOINTING THOSE MEMBERS ULTIMATELY. BACK TO YOU, JACKIE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE CODE AMENDMENTS BEING PROPOSED. SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THESE REAL QUICKLY JUST FOR REVIEW. SO THIS FIRST ONE WELL FIRST OF ALL, THESE ALL APPLY TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ESTABLISHED IN CITY CODE CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE FIVE SPECIFICALLY SUSTAINABILITY AND CREATIVE PLACEMAKING. SO THIS FIRST ONE JUST REMOVE THE REFERENCE TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING TERM LIMITS FOR COMMISSIONS. THIS NEXT ONE IS SPECIFIC TO CREATIVE PLACEMAKING AND IT REMOVES THE REFERENCE TO A POTENTIAL COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. AND THEN THIS THIRD ONE IS IN REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND CHANGES THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS FROM 11 TO 9 AND REMOVES THE REFERENCE TO ONE BEING COUNCIL MEMBER BEING A SEATED MEMBER OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. SO WITH THAT THIS IS THE MOTION BEFORE YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT REALLY ALL WE WERE AT THE QUESTION PHASE I'LL WAIT TILL WE GET TO THE CONVERSATION PART GET THE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING . WE'LL GET TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER REVISE CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE IMBALANCE THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER BEING PART OF THE COMMISSION CREATES? YEAH SURE. IT COULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS MAYOR COUNCIL THIS WOULD BE THE PERCEPTIONS OF INDIVIDUALS. SO AS WE SORT THROUGH CREATE AN AMOUNT OF CONSISTENCY ACROSS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE START TO IMPROVE KIND OF TOUCHPOINTS. TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION IN THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT SOMETIMES HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER THEIR OPINION PERHAPS CARRIES DIFFERENT WEIGHT. I'M JUST SPEAKING GENERALLY ON SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED SO IT'S JUST SORT OF A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF POSITION THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HOLDS I THINK IS GENERALLY WHAT IT'S TRYING TO SPEAK TO AND I'M SORRY TO SAY BUT IT STILL DOESN'T CLARIFY MY QUESTION. I MEAN IF IF IT'S JUST A PERCEPTION OR IS IT A REALITY THOUGH? I MEAN I HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF ANY COMMISSION SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU HOW I YOU KNOW ,THE REST OF MY FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BEHAVE OR REACT IN THERE OR WHAT OPINIONS THEY HAVE ON IT. BUT I JUST QUESTIONED THE FACT I MEAN I HATE TO SAY IT BUT EVERYONE SITTING HERE HAS BEEN ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC AND I WILL HAVE A REAL HARD TIME. YOU KNOW, ALIGNING WITH THIS REQUEST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SITTING HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELONG TO THIS COMMISSION OR OR WHAT IS IT CALLED? YEAH BUT ANYWAY SO YOU SEE MY POINT I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME YOU KNOW I'VE SERVED IN THAT EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T BELONGED TO ONE AND I DON'T REALLY YOU KNOW I THINK A BODY THAT I DON'T REALLY SEE THE NECESSITY FOR ME TO BE PART OF IT. I GET BUSY ENOUGH WITH ALL THAT STUFF BUT BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THAT AFTER ALL EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC AND I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS VOICE IN COMMISSIONS. SURE. AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT QUESTION AS WELL. AND I WOULD JUST GO BACK KIND OF THE ORIGINAL CHARGE THAT WE HAD WAS TO FIND OUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSISTENCY ACROSS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND SO IN SEEKING TO FIND WHAT THAT CONSISTENCY COULD LOOK LIKE, THE QUESTIONS WERE POSED WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ENHANCED TOUCH POINTS? WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LIAISON'S ON COUNCIL LIAISONS ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE NO REPRESENTATION? AND SO IN YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE OFFERED IN A VARIETY OF ALSO QUALITATIVE RESPONSES WERE PROVIDED AND SO IN THAT SORT OF VOTING PROCESS FOLKS SUGGESTED HAVING NO SEATS ON CITY COUNCIL GENERALLY AND THAT IDEA OF POWER IMBALANCE MAY HAVE JUST BEEN IN SOME SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED AS WELL THAT GENERALLY POINTED IN THAT DIRECTION. SO I DON'T HAVE FURTHER KIND OF EVIDENCE BEHIND IT. SURE THAT'S BEEN REVISED AND I KNOW THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS IS QUICK. WHAT IS IMPERVIOUS IS A NOT HAVING SERVICE LIMIT LIMITS YOU KNOW, WHAT I TAKE FROM THAT IS THAT YOU CAN SERVE 20 YEARS IN ONE COMMISSION OR MORE 30 YEARS OR 40 LIKE WE HAD IN A CASE WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY. SOMEBODY BEING THERE FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. I MEAN I FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKING A CAREER OF BEING PART OF A BOARD OR A COMMISSION I JUST FIND IT DIFFICULT WHEN NEW PEOPLE OF COURSE LONGEVITY CREATES CONSISTENCY TO A CERTAIN DEGREE BUT AT THE SAME TIME BEING PERENNIALLY IN A COMMISSION OR A BOARD I DON'T SEE THAT AS A YOU KNOW, AS A POSITIVE THING. THERE ARE NEW IDEAS, GOOD IDEAS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY I ADD SOMETHING CLOSETED TO A BROADER COMMISSION YOU KNOW THAT WILL BE A GOOD TO HAVE TERM LIMITS A CERTAIN TIME YOU KNOW IT'S TIME FOR THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME TO GO AND GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY. SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BE PART OF IT AT LEAST THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT COULD YOU JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WHAT'S BEHIND IT? DIFFERENT BOARDS THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER REAVIS AND COUNCIL WOULD YOU LIKE TO? I WAS JUST GOING TO GET BACK TO IT. I MAYBE WORDED THAT ONE SO THE THIS 2.72 SO THERE ARE SERVICE LIMITS. THERE ARE TERM LIMITS FOR EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BOARD AND BOARD OF REVIEW. SO BUT THERE ARE TERM LIMITS FOR THE OTHERS THIS JUST ELIMINATES THE MENTION OF MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SERVING ON A BORDER COMMISSION BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THAT'S 2.72 IT YES YES DO YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION? YES. YES . I MEAN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER YOU GOT TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK I'M I'M FULL TERM LIMITS THAT'S ANY ANYWHERE IT JUST TO ME I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO TO DO EVERYTHING BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION I GUESS. BUT THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXPLANATION. I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER DEL CENTRO QUESTIONS OR NO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO IF YOU READ THE WHOLE SERVICE LIMIT SECTION IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY THERE ARE IS A SIX YEAR TERM LIMIT FOR EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSION EXCEPT FOR THE BOARD OF REVIEW OR FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL WE'RE DOING HERE IS REMOVING THE CITY COUNCIL REFERENCE ON THAT SECTION. SO IN OTHER WORDS BOARDING COMMIT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE A SIX YEAR TERM LIMIT TODAY AND THEY'LL STILL HAVE THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE TODAY. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY GREAT. THANKS. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMEMBER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN 4.4 REGARDING AN ORDINANCE REGARDING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THAT AND 4.4 THIS EVENING REALLY DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE, MAYOR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE. LAST CHANCE FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL NO ONE COMING FORWARD. NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON A 4.4 SO MOVED SO A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AND 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL NOW COMMENTS THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. AFTER NINE YEARS OF SERVICE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION IT'S TIME TO RETIRE AND I SENT THAT NOTICE OUT TODAY. I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. TIME TO TAKE ON NEW OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE CITY AND CERTAINLY IF I HAD MY MY OPINIONS ABOUT ABOUT THIS YEAR AND CERTAINLY HAPPY THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE SURVEYED IN THE IN THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION LIKED HAVING A COUNCILMEMBER THERE AND THEY THEY MENTIONED THAT IN THEIR IN THEIR SURVEY AND INDICATED SO I I APPRECIATE THAT I DON'T WANT TO RELITIGATE THIS THIS ISSUE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TODAY. YOU KNOW I CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THE WHERE THAT WHERE THE WINDS ARE GOING WITH THIS THIS WHOLE THING HERE. BUT ONE THING I KNOW YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I CAMPAIGNED ON IS THIS IDEA OF BLOOMINGTON'S FUTURE BUILT TOGETHER AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF BRING TO THI COUNCIL AND WANTED TO HAVE A CONSIDER AS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS IS TO REFER THIS AND THESE ITEMS I WON'T CHANGE THE PASSING OF IT TODAY BUT ALSO SEND THIS ON AS AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER COMMISSION TO DO SOME OF THE CLEANUP AND THE CLARIFICATION THAT I HAD HAD ASKED ALONG THIS WHOLE PROCESS HERE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS UP. I CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING TODAY. BUT YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE TO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND THERE'S SOME OTHER SECTIONS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CHARTER THAT I THINK REALLY ARE PART OF THIS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE MORE TASKED WITH THAT KIND OF LOOK AT THESE THINGS TO KIND OF ALIGN SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SO I HAVE I'VE LISTED ALL THOSE CONCERNS AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS THOSE CONCERNS AND I'VE ASKED FOR THOSE THINGS ON TO THE MAYOR AND WITH THAT I YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS BUT I'LL CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, WITH THAT AMENDMENT I CAN I CAN SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING THIS MOVING THIS FORWARD AS SOON AS I UNDERSTAND IT WILL ASK YOU IS THE IS THE CORRECT TACT HERE? IS IT TO INCLUDE IT SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDINANCE OR IS THAT TO PASS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN MAKE A COUNCIL STATEMENT ASKING THE CHARTER COMMISSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND CLEAN THIS UP AS NECESSARY? >> EXCUSE ME, MAYOR MEMBERS, THERE'S ONE PROVISION IN THE CITY CHARTER 2.02 THAT ADDRESSES BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THE BULK OF ALL OF THE LANGUAGE RELATED TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS IN THE CITY CODE. THE CHARTER COMMISSION IS MEETING TO SYSTEMATICALLY WORK THROUGH THE CITY CHARTER STARTING IN JANUARY. SO IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC OVISION THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST, I'D WELCOME A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ME BRINGING TO THE CHAIR TO INCLUDE IN THAT DISCUSSION. IT'S CONCERN, YOU KNOW. IS THAT CLEAR? IS THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED OR TIED INTO THE ORDINANCE BUT IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION AND A REQUEST TO ASK THE CHARTER COMMISSION TO TAKE THIS UP BECAUSE I'D BE A SEPARATE SEPARATE THING. >> YEAH. REMEMBER SORRY TO CLARIFY THERE'S I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND OR FIND IT NECESSARY TO ADD ANY LANGUAGE TO THE MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT. YOU COULD SEPARATELY DIRECT ME TO FOLLOW UP. YEAH. OKAY. IS THAT DOES I NEED TO BE A COUNCIL ACTION OR TO DO THAT OR THE MAYOR REMEMBERS IF YOU WANT TO YOU CERTAINLY CAN BUT THAT'S UNNECESSARY. I HEAR YOU AND I I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A CALL. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. COUNSEL ADDITIONAL COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR NO, I APPRECIATE THE THE WORK THE STAFF HAS DONE FOR THIS. I THINK WHEN I STARTED AND COUNCIL THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I CAMPAIGNED ABOUT AND TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE THAT FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT I SPOKE TO THE THE ABILITY TO WORK AND INTERACT WITH COUNCIL WAS VERY LIMITED. THEY ONLY SHOWED UP HERE ONCE A YEAR AND SO I THINK THIS GOES A LONG WAY TO HELP OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT COUNCIL'S PRESENCE ON THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAS UNDUE INFLUENCE ON THOSE. WE HAVE DECIDED UP HERE THAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING OUR COMMISSIONERS TO DO IS MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE LIKE WE WOULD SPEND OUR WHOLE TIME HERE IF WE DID ALL THE WORK THAT ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DID. AND SO I THINK IT IS PRUDENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR WORK AND COME BACK TO US ON A REGULAR BASIS TO REPORT AND TELL US THIS IS THE WORK THAT YOU'VE TASKED WITH, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF ANYONE NOT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE COMMON STANDBY A COUNCILMEMBER I'LL LOOK DOWN THE TABLE HERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COMMENT ON THIS. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER YOU IS NEED TO DO THAT MOTION AND MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO THE CITY BOARDS COMMISSIONS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED I MOTION CARRIES FIVE TWO WITH COUNCILMEMBERS REGAS AND LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION COUNCILMEMBER MOVE SUMMARY PUBLICATION PLEASE I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SOME APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION AN ITEM 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED VOTE NO 522 OPPOSED TO SUMMARY PUBLICATION NO MOTION CARRIES FIVE TWO FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF ITEM 4.4. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL MOVE ON AND OUR BUSINESS TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM 5.1 THIS IS AN ORDER OR THIS IS AN ITEM TO ORDER AND AUTHORIZE TO BID HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THEN EMAIL CREEK WATER RENEWAL TREE REMOVAL PROJECT AND WE HAVE MR. SIMONDS AND RENEE CLARK BACK AGAIN THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AS YOU STATED MAYOR, WE'RE HERE TO ORDER AND AUTHORIZE THE HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD IN VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA AND THE TREE REMOVAL PROJECT. WE ARE NEARING THE END OF THE DESIGN PHASE IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PROCESS. WE WILL BE HERE THE END OF JANUARY WITH DOING THE SAME WITH THE FULL PROJECT WHERE YOU'LL SEE A FULL PROJECT PRESENTATION IF YOU RECALL A YEAR AGO WE WERE HERE MAKING SOME CRITICAL DESIGN DECISIONS AT THE CONCEPT LEVEL WHERE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF WITH GUIDANCE FROM THE PUBLIC TO MAINTAIN TRAILS AS PEDESTRIAN ONLY AS WELL AS GAVE STAFF DIRECTION ON ADA ACCESS POINTS AT HARRISON PARK AND MOYER PARK STAFF WERE HERE LAST IN SEPTEMBER WHERE WE GAVE YOU A FULL PROJECT PRESENTATION OF THE 60% PLANS REVIEWING THE NATURAL RESOURCES SCOPE TRAILS ,BRIDGES AND WHERE PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND AGAIN YOU'LL HEAR THOSE FINAL DETAILS AT THE END OF JANUARY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ON THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE SPLITTING APART FOR THIS NINE MILL CREEK CORRIDOR PROJECT, THE FIRST TWO OF WHICH ARE THE TWO THAT WE ARE HERE TO ORDER AND AUTHORIZE TO BID TONIGHT THE WINTER TREE REMOVAL BEING THE FIRST ONE. WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD THAT HERE IN JANUARY WITH AN AWARD IN EARLY FEBRUARY. IT'S THE TREE REMOVAL THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND ACCESS FOR THE LARGER PROJECTS SO LOCATIONS OF BRIDGE REMOVAL LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE IMPROVING ADA ACCESS AT MOYER AND HARRISON PARK AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. AND A REASON FOR BRINGING THIS EARLIER IS BECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE APRIL 15TH DUE TO SOME ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR THE LONG YEAR BAD FOR THE TREE CLEARING SO WE'D BE LOOKING TO GET STARTED HERE BY LATE FEBRUARY WITH THAT PROJECT AND FINISHING BY APRIL 15TH. THEN THE HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PIECE WELL FIRST OF ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO BID THIS IN JANUARY AS WELL MID TO LATE JANUARY IN AWARDED IN LATE FEBRUARY AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT TO BE OPENING BY NOVEMBER 11TH OF 2026 IS THE GOAL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS PROJECT HAS BROKE OUT TO COME EARLIER. IT INCLUDES THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA WHICH WE'VE LOOKED AT LOCATIONS THAT CIVIC PLAZA. NOW WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE LOCATION IN HARRISON PARK. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO FIT VERY WELL AND WE ALSO PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS AT THE HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD AND THEN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ITEMS WITH LANDSCAPING AND RAINWATER GARDENS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NINE MILE CREEK PROJECT BUT WORK WELL WITH WITH THIS VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT AS WELL THE FEW OTHER CONTRACTS OR CONTRACTS THAT WE'LL BE COMING WITH TO YOU AT THE END OF JANUARY. AS RENEE MENTIONED THE LARGER CARTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREEK IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AND YOU SEE THE TIMELINES THAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR BIDDING AND AWARDING THAT AND THAT INCLUDES THE LARGE PROJECT THE TRAILS, THE BRIDGES, THE CREEK REPAIRS, BOARDWALK MOYER PARK ITSELF ANTICIPATING CONSTRUCTION IN SPRING OF 27 THROUGH THE SUMMER OR SPRING OF 26 TO THE SUMMER OF 27 AND THEN WE HAVE OUR UPLAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES PROJECT WHICH WILL WE'RE HOPING TO FOLLOW THE SAME TIMELINE IS THAT CAUGHT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT BUT THAT'LL BE A LONGER CONTRACT, A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE ACTIVITIES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT PERIOD AND THAT'S MORE OF THE UPLAND RESTORATION PIECE NATURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION, INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT, THINGS OF THAT SORT AND THEN LOOKING TO COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH ADDITIONAL WAYFINDING WILL BE INCLUDING WAYFINDING WITH THESE PROJECTS. BUT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT INFORMATIONAL SIGNAGE ALONG THE CORRIDOR SO WE'D BE LOOKING TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER PROJECT FOR THAT ONCE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION IS MOVING ALONG AND 26 AND 27 HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD AND VETS MEMORIAL NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED SINCE WE CAME IN SEPTEMBER FOR AN UPDATE. STILL LOOKING AT THE LOCATION IN THE SOUTH OF SOUTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING HARRISON PARK PARKING LOT I KNOW THE BLOOMINGTON REMEMBRANCE VETERANS FOLKS ARE VERY EXCITED THAT THIS IS TO THE POINT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BIDDING AND MOVE TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION IN REGARDS TO CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TONIGHT THE WINTER TREE REMOVAL, THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES ABOUT 190,000 AND THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE BLOOMINGTON LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX DOLLARS AND THEN WITH THE HARRISON TRAILHEAD INVEST MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS 750,000 FUNDED THROUGH A DEED GRANT. OUR BLOOMINGTON REMEMBERS VETERANS FUNDS AND CITY FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT AS IT'S MOVED THROUGH THE DIFFERENT POSSIBLE LOCATIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD WHICH IS PART OF THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR PROJECT INITIALLY BUT BEING DONE SINCE IT'S IN THIS LOCATION WITH THE VETERANS PLAZA AND FUNDED THROUGH BLOOMINGTON SALES TAX AND STORMWATER UTILITY FOR A TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE OF JUST OVER 1.5 MILLION. SO AS RENEE MENTIONED FOR A TIMELINE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO ORDER AND AUTHORIZE THE TREE REMOVAL IN THE HARRISON AND VETS PROJECTS AND WE'LL BE GOING TO PARK AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION FOR EITHER MEMOS OR UPDATES TO THEM FOR THESE LARGER PROJECTS COMING BACK AT THE END OF JANUARY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AND UPLAND RESTORATION PIECE AND AS WE MENTIONED WE'LL BE LOOKING TO BID AN AWARD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WINTER TREE REMOVAL AND CONSTRUCTION HERE STARTING UP IN APRIL AND WITH THAT WE HAVE THE TWO REQUESTED ACTIONS FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. THE ONE THING I WOULD REQUEST WE KNOW HOW FOLKS REACT TO TREE REMOVAL SO AS WE GET INTO THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE AS MUCH COMMUNICATION AS POSSIBLE THROUGH ALL OUR SOCIAL CHANNELS, THROUGH OUR PUBLICATIONS AND SO ON AND MAYBE EVEN FOR SOME TEMPORARY SIGNAGE OUT THERE WHERE THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHY BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE WILL HAVE FOLKS UPSET ABOUT THE TREES COMING DOWN DOWN THERE. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY REQUEST . COUNSEL OTHER THOUGHTS QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE VERY GOOD ARE EXCITED TO GET THIS MOVING SO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 5.1 COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR HAPPY TO DO THAT. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE THE VETS PARK ON REALLY SORRY FOR THAT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING SO I'D MOVE TO ADOPT TO AUTHORIZE AND BID HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD A VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND I'M MARGARET RECORD RENEWAL TREE REMOVAL TREE REMOVAL PROJECT AND SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ORDER AND AUTHORIZED TO BID THE HARRISON PARK TRAILHEAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAZA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR RENEWAL TREE REMOVAL PROJECT NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND FINALLY TONIGHT ITEM 5.2 THIS IS A AN ITEM A RESOLUTION TO REVISE OUR COMPENSATION PLAN FOR FULL TIME PART TIME SEASONAL AND TEMPORARY NONUNION EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT ARE ELIZABETH OLSEN, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND I THINK STEPHEN BARRETT IS HERE AS WELL. >> GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO PRESENT OUR CONTINUATION OF OUR COMPENSATION PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO. AS MENTIONED, I HAVE DEPUTY FINANCE OFFICER COREY CARLSON AND OUR MANAGER STEVE BARRETT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY EXPLAINING MORE ABOUT WHAT A COMPENSATION STUDY IS. IT PROVIDES DATA DRIVEN GUIDANCE TO HELP AN ORGANIZATION DESIGN OR UPDATE A COMPENSATION PLAN THAT'S FAIR, COMPETITIVE COMPLIANT AND FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE. THIS HAS BEEN A YEAR LONG PROCESS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON AND WE WITH THE BAKER TILLY WHO'S THE COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY TOOK EVERY SINGLE POSITION HERE AT THE CITY. THEY ANALYZED THE JOB DESCRIPTION. THEY LOOKED AT INTERNAL EQUITY FACTORS IN TERMS OF PAY. THEY LOOKED AT MARKET FACTORS OUR PEERS IN THE MARKET TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE MARKET COMPETITIVE AS WELL. THEY DID A MARKET ANALYSIS THE REVIEWED PAY STRUCTURES ACROSS OTHER PURE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND PUBLIC SECTORS AND THEN THEY PROVIDED CITY LEADERSHIP WITH AN OVERALL RECOMMENDATION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE LAST COMPENSATION STUDY WAS DONE IN 2018 AT THE CITY AND IT IS COMMON IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR TO HAVE THESE STUDIES DONE EVERY 3 TO 7 YEARS PRIMARILY TO MAINTAIN MARKET COMPETITIVENESS AND ATTRACT AND RETAIN A TALENTED WORKFORCE. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE PREVIOUS CITY LEADERSHIP AUTHORIZED THIS COMPS STUDY TO BE DONE BEFORE ANY OF OUR LEADERS STARTED HERE AND WE ALSO INCORPORATED THIS AS PART OF OUR BUDGET STRATEGY THAT WE WORKED ON THIS PAST YEAR AS WELL. SO SOME OF THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT COMPENSATION PLAN IS HERE SOME OF THE PEER CITIES THAT THEY COMPARED AS WELL AS THE COURT OF COUNTY AND MET COUNCIL OF THE 18 CITIES IN MINNESOTA THAT HAS A POPULATION OF 50,000 OR MORE NEARLY 70% OR JUST 67% OF THESE CITIES DO HAVE A STEP BASED SYSTEM BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICE RATHER THAN PERFORMANCE. IT WAS NOTED THAT OUR MARKET ANALYSIS IS GENERALLY WE FOUND THE CITY BOOMTOWN WAS EITHER AT OR ABOVE MARKET BUT OUR MINIMUMS AND OUR BED POINTS WERE SLIGHTLY BELOW. I WILL NOTE THAT AN INFORMAL SURVEY THAT WE DID OF OUR PEER CITIES MANY CITIES ARE ACTUALLY DOING HIGHER COLAS AND STEPS JUST TO BE MARKET COMPETITIVE AS WELL. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WE HAVE EIGHT LABOR UNIONS HERE THE CITY AND OVER HALF OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE REPRESENTED. THEY INCLUDE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OR DISPATCHERS CLERICAL TECHNICAL, CIVILIAN JAILERS AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT CONTRACTS ARE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS AND THEY NEGOTIATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN THEIR ELEMENT INCLUDING WAGES, BENEFITS STEPS WORKING CONDITIONS AND SO FORTH. AND WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WITH OUR UNIONS WE STRIVE TO TREAT ALL OUR EMPLOYEES EQUITABLY REGARDLESS OF THEIR UNION STATUS, ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE COMPARABLE BENEFITS AND STRUCTURES AND BY VALUING THE RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE AS WELL AMONGST OUR LABOR SYSTEMS. SO JUST DOING A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON BETWEEN OUR CURRENT COMP PLAN AND THE ONE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. SO AS IT STANDS ARE BASED ON THE COMP PLAN THAT WE'VE ADOPTED IN 2018, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE PLANS HERE. WE'RE PROPOSING ONE SINGLE PLAN FOR EASE OF ACCESS, READABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN WE HAVE SIX STEPS PLUS A DISCRETIONARY PERFORMANCE RANGE THAT WENT UP TO THE MAXIMUM RANGE. HERE WE'RE PROPOSING NINE STEPS IN EACH PAY GRADE UP TO A MAXIMUM. OUR CURRENT PLAN HAS 3% INCREMENTS IN BETWEEN STEPS. HERE WE ARE PROPOSING 4% BETWEEN THE STEPS COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT OUR COLA STANDS FOR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND HERE ARE JUST SOME DATA ON PAST COLAS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED IN THE PAST. HERE WE ARE PROPOSING A LOWER COLA 2% AND WE'RE ALSO MOVING STEP INCREASES BASED ON EMPLOYEES ANNIVERSARY DATE AS OPPOSED TO THOSE IN THE PERFORMANCE RANGE. THEIR EFFECTIVE DATE WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SO IT WAS A WHOLE YEAR OF INCREASES VERSUS BEING AT THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE IN OUR IN OUR CURRENT PLAN IF YOU KIND OF AVERAGE IT OUT I KNOW THE ASSUMPTION IS JUST DO THE MATH THREE PLUS 3 OR 4 PLUS TWO BUT WE DID A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF ALL THESE OPTIONS OF HIGHER STEPS, LOWER COLA AND ALL THESE OTHER FINANCIAL SCENARIOS ANDO IT'S NOT JUST A STRAIGHT UP ADDING THE MATH WE ACTUALLY FOUND THAT A 3% COLA AND 3% STEP INCREASE THERE WAS JUST AN AVERAGE EFFECTIVE INCREASE OF 5% WHEREAS THE PROPOSED PLAN IS ACTUALLY JUST SLIGHTLY OVER 4%. SO IN ESSENCE IT ACTUALLY COSTS OR ACTUALLY SAVES THE CITY ROUGHLY AROUND $1 MILLION A PROPOSED PLAN COMPARED TO THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED PLAN WAS EMBEDDED IN THE 6.96% LEVY THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED LAST WEEK AS WELL. SO AGAIN THIS IS PART OF OUR BUDGET STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL COSTS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THESE ARE JUST KEY HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROPOSED COMPENSATION PLAN OBVIOUSLY ADDRESSING JUST INEQUITIES OF THE CURRENT STRUCTURE REMAINING COMPETITIVE IN THE JOB MARKET, A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT WAGE PROGRESSION WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A JOB OFFER IS NOT LIKE JUST PICK A NUMBER. IT'S LIKE WE'RE OFFERING THE STEP ONE OR 2 OR 3 SO LOTS MORE TRANSPARENCY IN MAKING JOB OFFERS AS WELL. IT ALSO HELPS US PREDICT BETTER BUDGET PROJECTIONS AND IT JUST HAS IMPROVED LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL. THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED WHERE THE ANNIVERSARY RATES OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND SO WE KIND OF OUTLINED WHERE FULL TIME PART TIME OR TEMP AND SEASONALS SURPRISINGLY WE FOUND THAT IT KIND OF EQUALS BY QUARTER. I WANT THE I WANT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GET THEIR STEP INCREASES ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATES AND SO THIS DATA POINT SHOWS THAT ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE CONVERSATION IS ALSO ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE AND EMPLOYEE RETENTION. AS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH LOTS OF TRANSITIONS THIS PAST YEAR AND ONE OF OUR GOALS EARLIER THIS YEAR WAS TO MAINTAIN MORALE AND STABILIZE THE ORGANIZATION. AS YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP TRANSITIONS AND TURNOVER CAN CREATE ORGANIZATIONAL ANGST AND IMPACT MORALE AND CULTURE AND THERE IS A COST OF TURNOVER IN AN ORGANIZATION AS WELL. RESEARCH SHOWS US 33% OF A PERSON'S SALARY SO IF YOU'RE HAVING CONSTANT TURNOVER CONSTANTLY BACKFILL LOSING IS IS IS TRUE KNOWLEDGE WITHOUT GOOD SUCCESSION PLANNING. THERE'S ALSO AN IMPACT TO OUR CULTURE AS WELL. SO THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO IT'S NOT JUST COMPENSATION IS ALSO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE AND MORALE AS WELL. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY AND BE CLEAR THAT THE SIEBEL TEN DOES HAVE A PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE HAVE AN ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION BUT FORCE IS JUST NOT MANAGE. IT'S MANAGED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR NOT JUST AT THE ANNIVERSARY DATE. WE HAVE FEEDBACK COACHING, TRAINING, DEVELOPMENT EMPLOYEE CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE THINGS SUCH AS PEPS PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLANS ,SUCCESSION PARTNERSHIP PLANS THAT IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS FOR IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENT CITY LEADERS WE ACTUALLY MEET MONTHLY TO ADDRESS ANY PERFORMANCE ISSUES OR THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT ARE IMPACTING PERFORMANCE OR BEHAVIOR IN THE ORGANIZATION AND I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT COMPENSATION IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND SO OUR EMPLOYMENT RULES ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS AND BY HAVING IN-HOUSE LEGAL COUNSEL WE ALSO ARE ABLE TO MITIGATE EMPLOYMENT ACTIONS AND LIABILITIES AS WELL . AND SO FINALLY, YOU KNOW THERE'S AN OF HOW DO WE MANAGE PERSONNEL COSTS. SO AS I MENTIONED THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES OUR COLA EACH YEAR BUT PERSONNEL COSTS CAN BE MANAGED IN OTHER WAYS SO SHE THROUGH FTE MANAGEMENT ALIGNMENT REALLOCATION WHICH WE'VE DONE AND THROUGH OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING THAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR THROUGH ATTRITION AND ALSO TIMING OF VACANCY AS WELL AS ASKED BY CITY COUNCIL WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING OUR ACCRUED BENEFITS AND TRYING TO MITIGATE LONG TERM LIABILITIES TO BETTER ALIGN WITH A MORE MODERN FLEXIBLE WORKFORCE. AND LASTLY I WOULD NOTE THAT WE HAVE OTHER LEVERS TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BUT DOING SO JUST REQUIRES COMMUNICATION ENGAGING OUR EMPLOYEES ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE MANAGEMENT, WORKING WITH OUR UNIONS AS WELL AND ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR EMPLOYMENT RULES AND PERSONNEL POLICIES. AND SO BEFORE US AS WE HAVE A REQUESTED ACTION AND RESOLUTION AND I WOULD WANT TO NOTE BECAUSE THERE WERE LOTS OF FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS OF ASKING IF THEY CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ON THIS PROCESS. I WILL NOTE THAT HISTORICALLY OUR COMPENSATION PLANS HAVE BEEN ON CONSENT ITEMS AND SO THIS IS I DON'T KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THIS ON ORGANIZATION DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS PRIMARILY FOR TRANSPARENCY BUT I DID DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CHARTER DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR RESOLUTIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE AND IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. AND WITH THAT I WOULD STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE WORK ON THIS SO YOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF YOUR FIRST SLIDES THAT THIS WAS LAST UP THE LAST COMPENSATION STUDY WAS DONE AT THE CITY IN 2019 AND SO IN ADDITION TO BEING AT ITS DUE DATE, BASICALLY THE WORLD OF WORK HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE 2019. CAN YOU CAN YOU TALK AT ALL ABOUT HOW THIS COMPENSATION STUDY ADDRESSES THAT AND SOME OF THOSE POST-PANDEMIC WORK REALITIES? >> YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS I WOULD NOTE A FEW THINGS I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TIMING BUT AT ONE TIME PUBLIC SECTOR COMPENSATION WAS LIMITED BY THE SALARY THE GOVERNOR'S SALARY WHEN THAT WAS CHANGED I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT WAS. IT REALLY EXPLODED THE TALENT AND THE COMPETITIVENESS OF RECRUITING TALENT OF LEADERS ACROSS THE CITY. AND SO YOU SAW LOTS OF MOVEMENT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR BETWEEN COUNTY, STATE, CITY AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S ONE HUGE CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST I BELIEVE 5 OR 6 YEARS TO I THINK THE PANDEMIC IN OUR WORLD ALSO CHANGED THE CHANGING WORKFORCE. WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE WANTING MORE FLEXIBILITY. WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE MOVE TO OTHER STATES, COUNTIES, CITIES THAT ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBLE AND BENEFITS AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE ALSO SEEING JUST CHANGES IN THAT AND WE'RE ALSO SEEING CITIES COMPETE FOR TALENT AND RETENTION. WE'RE NOT SEEING EMPLOYEES STAY TEN, 20, 30, 40 YEARS IS MORE WE'RE SEEING MORE TURNOVER AND CHANGE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS I NOT A ONE YEAR OLD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF COURSE I MEAN YEAH WE'RE YEAH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MY BAD. COUNCILMEMBER CARDIN AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I DID I DO JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS AND I SAY IT'S BEEN LIKE A YEARLONG PROCESS AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TOOK TO SIT WITH EACH OF US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WAS PRETTY APPARENT THAT MOST OF US DIDN'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE COMPENSATION PLANS FOR NONUNION EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY AND I'M ONE OF THEM. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GOTTEN KIND OF A FOUNDATIONAL AT LEAST IN MY TIME I COUNCIL WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN LIKE AN A FOUNDATIONAL OVERVIEW ON HOW THIS WORKS AND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SYSTEM THIS STEP SYSTEM IS VERY IT'S KIND OF A TRADITIONAL PAY SYSTEM IN CITY GOVERNMENTS OR ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT. I THINK IT'S HARDER FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR NONPROFITS WHATEVER TO KIND OF WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND HOW IT ALL WORKS. BUT AGAIN THANK YOU FOR SITTING WITH ME SO THAT I COULD TRY TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT. AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING I GUESS I JUST WANT TO KIND OF POINT OUT IS THAT ONE THING THAT DOES MAKE THE CITY OR GOVERNMENT DIFFERENT IS THE KIND OF FACTOR OF THE LABOR UNIONS AND HOW THEY NEGOTIATE THEIR CONTRACTS AND HOW THEY'RE SET UP AND THEN HOW WE THEN NEED TO BE LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES FAIR AND EQUITABLE WITH NONUNION STAFF AND THESE KIND OF SYSTEMS HELP US DO THAT AND SO AS MUCH AS I STILL KIND OF DISAGREE FUNDAMENTALLY I THINK PERFORMANCE SHOULD BE TIED TO PAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THE THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE BUT THAT WE STILL HAVE PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE REVIEWS AND PLANNING AND AND IT SOUNDS LIKE VERY ROBUST AND I KNOW IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU THAT I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT PERFORMANCE IS ADDRESSED ADEQUATELY. SO WITH THAT ALTHOUGH I HAVE START I STARTED OFF WITH CONCERNS I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PLAN AND I ALSO I THINK THE OTHER PIECE FOR ME THAT REALLY KIND OF SOLIDIFIED MY SUPPORT IS THAT THIS PLAN SAVES US MONEY AND SAVES THE CITY MONEY AND THAT WAS MY BIGGEST QUESTIO LAST TIME TOO WAS JUST LIKE WHAT'S THE MODELING? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT INFORMATION AND AND THE REALITY IS IS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS WE WILL HAVE TO FIND $1 MILLION WORTH OF ITEMS TO CUT IN OUR BUDGET AND WE KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO JUST GET WHERE WE WERE. AND SO TED TRY TO FIND ANOTHER MILLION SEEMS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT SOME SIGNIFICANT COSTS NOT IN DOLLARS BUT IN OTHER THINGS SERVICES AND THINGS THAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMBER NELSON. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M OVER HERE ON DECEMBER 22ND AND FOR ME THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION BECAUSE AS I TRULY VALUE THE WORK OF OUR STAFF THEY'RE FANTASTIC. THEY HELP ME UNDERSTAND THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY KNOW THEY TAKE CARE AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE THEY'RE GREAT. YOU KNOW, AND TO A PERSON THAT I'VE INTERACTED WITH IN THIS CITY I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE THAT HAS BEEN HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING A RAISE EVERY YEAR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT THEY DO WHETHER THAT BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE POLICE OR FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY AREAS, WHETHER THAT BE IN PUBLIC WORKS, WHETHER THAT BE IN YOU KNOW, JUST COMMUNITY SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE. I STILL STRUGGLE WITH THIS COMPENSATION PLAN. THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY GUARANTEE PEOPLE FOUR PLUS PERCENT RAISE EVERY YEAR IT I JUST STRUGGLE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND IT. I DO APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S COMMENT THAT THIS SAVES US MONEY IN THE NEXT YEAR IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER PLAN AND SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY FOR 2026. THIS CAME UP KIND OF LATE IN OUR BUDGET CYCLE AND I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT IT IN THE FIRST OR SECOND QUARTER IN MORE DETAIL. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO REVISIT IT IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL AT 8:46 P.M. ON DECEMBER 22ND. I THINK THIS IS IN OUR BUDGET IT'S IT'S GOOD FOR US FOR THIS YEAR BUT I DON'T WANT TO REVISIT IT IN THREE YEARS AND FOUR YEARS AND SEVEN YEARS I WANT TO REVISIT IT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE CAN REALLY KIND OF THINK THROUGH THESE UNDERSTAND THEM YOU KNOW AS AN EXAMPLE I HAVE A QUESTION I MEAN SURE, ALMOST 70% USE THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM. 30% DON'T WHAT ARE THEY DOING? HOW DOES IT WORK? YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT COST THEM BECAUSE ULTIMATELY CANDIDLY, IF YOU HAVE A 4 TO 6% INCREASE IN LABOR AND LABORERS, OUR BIGGEST COST EVERY YEAR IS FINANCIALLY ON SUSTAIN ABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY OVER TIME AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. SO PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID FAIRLY. PEOPLE SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR EXCEPTIONAL WORK. I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW TO FIND A SYSTEM THAT DOES THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OTHER THOUGHTS COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DELLA SANDRO COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK ANYONE WHO HAS A TEAM HAS TO HIRE KNOWS THE CHALLENGES OF THAT. IT IS REALLY HARD AND TURNOVER HAS A BIG BIG COST IMPACT AND I THINK ALSO FOR JUST RESIDENTS THEY SEE US INTRODUCE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES HERE AND WE'VE HAD HEADCOUNT STEADY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING INTRODUCED HERE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE BACKFILL SO THEY'RE NOT NEW HEADCOUNT AND SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT THAT POINT AS WELL AS THAT WE ARE SEEING THE ACTIVE ATTRITION HAPPENING EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN WE INTRODUCE NEW EMPLOYEES HERE AT CITY HALL. MY MESSAGE TO STAFF IS THE MESSAGE THAT THE MAYOR HAS ALL THE TIME. THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WHEN YOU COME HERE YOU HAVE TO DELIVER A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND I FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT AFTER WE HAD OUR CONVERSATIONS AROUND OUR PERFORMANCE REVIEWS AND HOW WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THESE AREN'T JUST QUOTE UNQUOTE AUTOMATIC LIKE YOU HAVE TO PERFORM TO GET THESE. AND SO THAT'S MY MESSAGE TO STAFF IS THAT THIS IS NOT A PLACE THAT YOU COME AND YOU RELAX BECAUSE YOU GET THESE AUTOMATIC RAISES IF YOU DON'T PERFORM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE WE EXPECT THE BEST OUT OF OUR STAFF. AND LASTLY, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN ADDING MILLION DOLLARS BACK TO THIS BUDGET AND SO I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE HAD TRADITIONALLY AND THAT'S HELPED ME WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT BECAUSE I AM I COME FROM THE CORPORATE WORLD. THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO. THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I DO WITH MY TEAM AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM CUSTOMER NELSON ABOUT BRINGING THIS BACK TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS SO WE CAN BRING A BETTER SYSTEM TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OUR CITY STAFF SO THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT SO THAT IT ALIGNS MORE WITH EXPECTATIONS. SO I, I, I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THE STAFF IS DOING. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS MR. MAYOR. I'LL ADD TWO POINTS HERE. FIRST OFF, VERY COMFORTABLE HAVING THE CONVERSATION AGAIN AND IN 2026 THAT'S FINE. WE CAN APPROVE IT FOR TONIGHT IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK I THINK THERE'S TWO ASPECTS OF OF THE WORK THAT THIS THAT THAT OUR STAFF DOES THAT I THINK IS WORTH NOTING AND CONSIDERING ONE IS AS AS NOTED BY MANY OF THE STUDIES THAT WE DID TODAY, THESE ARE THESE FOLKS THESE ARE MULTI-YEAR ENDEAVORS THAT THESE PEOPLE TAKE ON. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY TO DO THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE DO. IF I HAD TURNOVER LIKE I HAD IN RETAIL WHEN I WORKED AT BEST BUY FOR EXAMPLE BURNING THROUGH PEOPLE RATE AND COST QUARTER OVER QUARTER PROFITS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF I WOULD NOT YOU KNOW I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU KNOW MR. ROBERTS FOR EXAMPLE, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN BOULEVARD STUDY SINCE BEFORE 2023. I KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE BECAUSE I LOOKED IT UP I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG AGO BUT I THINK 2013 MIGHT HAVE BEEN A NUMBER AT SOME OR A DATE AT SOME POINT. SO LIKE THAT CONSISTENCY DOES HELP US. IT HELPS US BECAUSE TURNOVER COSTS MORE IT COSTS MORE MONEY TO REPLACE AN EMPLOYEE THAN TO MAINTAIN ONE. IT'S TRUE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL. AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S A WORTHY CONSIDERATION AND AGAIN NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. I'M VERY HAPPY TO REVISIT IT BUT I THINK IT'S ADDING CONSIDERATION WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT AS A COUNCIL IN HOW AND WHY PLANS ARE DIFFERENT POTENTIALLY HERE THAN THEY MIGHT BE IN A IN A PRIVATE SECTOR REALM. THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY TOO IS THAT I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH WHAT WE PAY PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT THAT TO BE. NOW YOU'RE RIGHT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY IF IF OUR LEVY IS AT 4% EVERY YEAR GUARANTEED YOU KNOW IT IT IT KIND OF SORT OF WAS ANYWAY BUT IF IT IS ANYHOW AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING NEW IN TERMS OF INVESTMENTS WITHOUT ADDING MORE TO THE LEVY THAT PUTS US IN A BIT OF A CONSTRAINT AND SO IT'S WORTH US TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. HOWEVER KNOWING KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY PEOPLE AND KNOWING WHAT THAT BUDGET WILL BE WILL PROVIDE A VERY NICE BASELINE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS INCLUDING POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING RID OF CERTAIN STUFF IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THAT PROGRAM ANYMORE OR WHATEVER BUT WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE'LL BE SPENDING OR SAVING IF WE DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC IN A IN A IN A CITY AS OPPOSED TO I CAN PROMISE YOU IT TAKES A LOT TO GET PRIVATE DATA ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT MY MY MY MY MY SALARY IS NOT KNOWN BUT MY SALARY AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IS KNOWN AND THAT'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HERE. SO I'LL SUPPORT IT AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO TO HAVE IT COME BACK. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING A SHORT TERM APPROVAL HERE. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING ALL THIS EXTRA INFORMATION THAT WE REQUESTED LAST TIME. I ALSO HAVE A HARD TIME AND I DO ECHO THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TO COMPREHEND THIS BUT AT THE SAME TIME AFTER ALL THE COMMENTS AND ALL THE ANSWERS THAT WERE OUT, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED WHILE WE SAT DOWN AND YOU KNOW, ONE ON ONE IT HAS HELPED MITIGATE, YOU KNOW THE DIFFICULTY IN OBSERVED IN THIS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DO HAVE A GREAT CITY STAFF WHO DESERVES TO GET PAID PROPERLY . IT'S JUST A TIMING THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW THE MORE YOU TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC OUT THERE, THE RESIDENTS THE MORE YOU GET CONCERN ABOUT IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE CAN VISIT THIS NEXT NEXT YEAR EARLY IN THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND GO TO ANY MORE DETAIL AND FIND WAYS TO SOMEHOW MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT HE HAS ON THE RESIDENTS. BUT YOU KNOW, DAD SAID I'LL BE BEHIND IT. I DON'T WANT TO AGAIN LIKE MOST OF US AGREE WE DON'T WANT TO ADD $1 MILLION TO THE EXISTING BUDGET ALREADY. IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO TO TO HAVE SAID THAT. BUT IT WILL BE NICE TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO TO MAKE IT MORE VIABLE I GUESS IF THAT IS POSSIBLE AT ALL. BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT SORT OF THE PUBLIC IS DIVIDED OUT THERE BUT IT'S ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO ONCE THEY HAVE SOLD MORE OF THE INFORMATION TO US PROVIDED FOR THEM, THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE ACCEPTING ABOUT IT . SO YOU KNOW, DAD SAID IF WE TRY IF WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS NEXT YEAR, LET'S TRY TO DO IT EARLY. SO THERE IS MORE TIME FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO EVALUATE THE WHOLE THING. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TIME I'LL BE BEHIND IT. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT I'LL BE BRIEF. IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL BEEN SO NOW I KIND OF LAY IT OUT THIS WAY PAY ME NOW OR PAY SOMEONE ELSE MORE LATER ON. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE REALLY TAKEN THE FIRST STEP FORWARD TO RESOLVE THE CURRENT FAIR RECOGNITION OF PERFORMANCE ACROSS OUR IT'S TAKE US A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT. IT'S A FIRST STEP AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AT THE FUTURE. HOPE WE DON'T GO BACKWARDS ON THAT AND SO I HOPE WE STAY STAY FIRM WITH THIS IDEA OF EQUITY ACROSS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR VALUES AND THAT TYPE TYPE OF THING. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING THERE. I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THIS UNLESS THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS. I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A BITE AT THE APPLE. COUNCILMEMBER LEMON MAYOR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION FOR THE NEW 2026 COMPENSATION PLAN FOR FULL TIME, PART TIME AND SEASONAL AND TEMPORARY NONUNION EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY EMPLOYMENT. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MUA COUNCIL DISCUSSION COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH MAYOR IS IT POSSIBLE TO EITHER AMEND THIS OR WOULD IT JUST BE STAFF DIRECTION THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT NEXT YEAR? I THINK STAFF DIRECTOR I HAVE DIRECTION GREAT. ROBERT OKAY THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON ITEM 5.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS AND I KNOW IT WAS NOT A SMALL TASK. OUR FINAL ITEM THIS YEAR ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA COUNCIL IS COUNCIL ISSUES AND ISSUE UPDATES. I WILL START WITH OUR LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HAD THREE FOLKS TALK CHAD DAILEY, ANDREW THUL AND JULIAN VIGEN AND THEY DID TALK REGARDING THE COMPENSATION PLAN AND THEY BROUGHT UP THEIR THEIR OPPOSITION TO IT FOR A VARIETY OF GOOD REASONS. AND SO WHILE THIS WE DIDN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OR A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AVAILABLE WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S MEETING TONIGHT, WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FEEDBACK ON THIS ON THIS OUR COMPENSATION PLAN AND AND THEN MR. THROUGH WILL ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A DATA REQUEST HE SUBMITTED AND I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF MAYBE LOST IN THE INBOX OR MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE JUNK FILE BUT IT WAS RESPONDED TO AND WE'LL TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION INTO YOUR HANDS SO AND THAT WAS OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION FOR THIS EVENING OR FOR THIS FOR THIS YEAR. MR. WALKER ANYTHING TO ADD TONIGHT? MR. MAYOR? I'LL JUST ADD TO THE COUNCIL'S COMMENTS FROM EARLIER ON BEHALF OF OUR STAFF. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. BOTH IN YOUR ELECTED CAPACITY AND YOUR SERVICE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN. AND AS YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, I'M SURE WE'LL SEE YOU DOWN THE ROAD. COUNCIL ANYTHING ADDITIONAL IT'S TIME TO ADJOURN BUT COUNCIL I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A BLESSED HOLIDAY SEASON AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR AS WE GO IN IN THE NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU ALL FOR A A PRODUCTIVE AND INTERESTING AND WELL DONE YEAR UP HERE ON THE COUNCIL DAY AS YOU DID WE HAVE ALL DONE A VERY GOOD JOB I THINK AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT AND I WILL LOOK DOWN IN THIS WAY AND SAY THE SAME THING TO STAFF AND SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK THIS YEAR. IT'S BEEN A BIG YEAR, A BUSY YEAR AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A BIGGER AND BUSIER YEAR COMING UP NEXT YEAR SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. WELL DONE WITH THAT COUNCIL I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN 2025 SO MOVED WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN TONIGHT. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. HAVE A GOOD REST OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. WE'LL SEE YOU IN 2026