>> GOOD EVENING, IT'S FEBRUARY 6th 2023. THE 24th MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. NUMBER ONE IS ROLL CALL. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT WITH COUNCILOR BENTON ATTENDING VIA ZOOM. COUNCILOR DAVIS WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. SECOND ITEM IS THE MOMENT OF SILENCE. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH, COUNCILOR LEWIS, PLEASE LEAD US IN THAT. AND THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAMBER ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16. THE GOVTV WEBSITE. YOU TUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVE STREAM CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICE ON YOUR TELEVISION AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 TO TO 5. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M. IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE OTHER OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. NUMBER THREE IS PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT RECOGNIZING TRANSIT EQUITY DAY. HERE TO ACCEPT THAT PROCLAMATION IS -- IF YOU WILL COME DOWN WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. [ READING LIST OF RECIPIENTS ]. AND COUNCILOR PEÑA WILL HELP ME EWITH THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCLAMATION. WE'RE DOING IT TOGETHER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? IT'S ON? THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON? READY? OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WHEREAS COMMUNITY ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT HEALTH CARE AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROMOTE HEALTHY EQUITY IN THE COMMUNITY IS A HUMAN RIGHT AND WHEREAS TRANSIT EQUITY IS IDENTIFIED AS PROVIDING SAFE, AND SECURE TRAVEL WHICH PROMOTES MOBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY FAIRLY ENABLING ALL PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY ALLOWING MORE IMPACTED COMMUNITIES TO DEPEND ON PUBLIC TRANSIT ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION THEY NEED AND DESERVE AND WHEREAS TRANSED IS A HUMAN RIGHT AND PUBLIC GOOD IS EKE FUNDED BASED ON AGE, DISABILITY, INCOME AND RACE HAVE PERSITED TO THIS DAY WITH CUTS IN PUBLIC FUNDING FOR TRANSIT AND SUBSEQUENT FARE INCREASES IN MANY TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND WHEREAS ROSA PARKS WHOSE BIRTH DAY IS FEBRUARY 4 WAS AN ICONIC FIGURE WHO PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN HISTORIC PROTEST IN UNEQUAL ACCESS AND TREATMENT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR AND TRANSIT THAT ENDED LEGAL SEGREGATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHEREAS INCREASE COMMUNITY ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND REDUCTION IN RACIAL DISPARITIES INCREASES EMPLOYMENT AND GOOD JOBS CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND WHEREAS THE CITY AND TRANSIT DEPARTMENT CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON RACIAL ECONOMIC AND OTHER INEQUALITIES AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THE NEED FOR FREE AND ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT PREVIOUSLY RECOGNIZING ROSA PARKS BIRTH DAY WITH FREE BUSES AND PROCLAMATION AND PILOTING ZERO FARES WITH FREE ART, ABQ RIDE AND SUN VAN. WHEREAS TRANSITIONING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO PERSONAL VEHICLE TO SUSTAINABLE RENEWABLE PUBLIC TRANSIT IS KEY TO ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF THE CITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND CREATING SAFER STREETS THAT SUPPORT EQUITABLE HEALTHIER AND CLEANER WORLD. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SUPPORTS POLICY-MAKING AND PURSUING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND OTHER RESOURCES INCLUDING COUNTY AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT TRANSIT EQUITY INCLUDING ZERO FARES AND EXPAND ROUTES IN TRANSIT DEPENDENT COMMUNITIES BE IT PROCLAIMED THE COUNCIL DECLARES FEBRUARY 4, 2023 AS TRANSIT EQUITY DAY AND REMEMBRANCE OF ROSA PARKS AND ACKNOWLEDGING ACCESS AND ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC TRANSIT AS A HUMAN RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. >> WE ARE WITH ZERO FARES. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO TO THANK IS IN 2018 OUR BROTHERS PUT TOGETHER THIS INCREDIBLE GRAPHIC OF TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL IN THE SEVEN LANGUAGES THEY ORGANIZED ENGLISH SPANISH TURKISH, ARABIC, SWAU -- JAPANESE, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU REUSABLE BAGS THAT CAN BE FOR SUSTAINABILITY. THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING OUR WORK TO MAKE TRANSIT EQUITY HAPPEN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK IN THIS AREA. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE BAG AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROCLAMATION IS GIVEN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-CHAIR, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE PAUL SMITH UP. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US, PLEASE. WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M SAD TO HEAR OF YOUR RETIREMENT AND EXCITED ALL THE SAME. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR PAUL SMITH WHO SERVED AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE INTERNATIONAL BALLOON FOR 26 YEARS AND PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN TRANSFORMING FROM A REGIONAL EVENT TO ONE KNOWN WORLD WIDE. PAUL SMITH GRADUATED FROM THE NEW MEXICO SCHOOL OF LAW IN 1979 AND BEFORE COMING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND IS STILL PRACTICING LAW. WHEREAS SPALL SMITH SERVED IN MANY BALLOONING OFFICES, INCLUDING PRESIDENT OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE AND SAFETY OFFICER AT THE WORLD GAS CHAMPIONSHIP. WHEREAS PAUL SMITH WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN CONVERTING THE BALLOON FIESTA DIRT FIELD TO GRASS. AND HE EXECUTED THE ADDITION OF FEATURES TO BALLOON FIESTA, SAID CUTTERPILOTS PAVILION AND INCORPORATED TOOLS TO INTRODUCE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND VISITORS TO BALLOONING THROUGH THE BALLOON DISCOVERY CENTER AT THE NORTH END OF THE LAUNCH FIELD AND THE MINIATURE MASS ASCENSION. AND WHEREAS PAUL SMITH INITIATED ALBUQUERQUE ALOFT AS A RESPONSE TO THE GRAYING OF THE SPORT WHICH INTENDED TO INTRODUCE SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN TO BALLOONING. AND WHEREAS HE SERVED ON THE BALLOON TASK FORCED TASKED WITH PRESERVING BALLOON SITES IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND WHEREAS IN 2022 PAUL SMITH RECEIVED THE HERITAGE AWARD AND WAS INDUCTED TO THE HALL OF FAME. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WOULD LIKE TO HAUNTTHER CONTRADICTTIONS HE AND CELEBRATION AND PRIDE OF BALLOONING CULTURE IN ALBUQUERQUE. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HONORS PAUL SMITH CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BALLOON FIESTA. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE BALLOONING ECONOMY THAT MAKES ALBUQUERQUE SO GREAT IN THE INTERNATIONAL REALM. FEEL FREE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, IF YOU WANT TO GLOAT ABOUT GLAMPING. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT SURPRISES ME THEY TALK ABOUT GLAMPING. I DIDN'T THINK ANYONE WOULD PAY $500 TO SLEEP IN A TENTED. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. AND THE TASK FORCE IS CRITICAL TO LONGEVITY OF BALLOON FIESTA. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO ASSIST HER IN FOUNDING AND PRESERVING LANDING SITES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO YOU WANT A FIST BUMP OR A SHAKE? WHATEVER WE'RE DOING NOW. IT'S A NEW WORLD. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: I CAN REMEMBER TAKING MY CHILDREN TO THE BALLOON FIESTA WHEN IT FIRST BEGUN AND PUSHING THE STROLLERS THROUGH THE DIRT. REALLY, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE IT GROWING AND EVOLVE AND IT'S A WONDERFUL FAMILY EVENT WE'VE ALL ENJOYED SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS A PRESENTATION ON THE ANNUAL STATE OF PARTNERSHIPS REPORT. MARIAH HARRISON PHILANTHROPY COORDINATOR TO PRESENT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU AND COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR MY TIME THIS EVENING. I COME TO YOU WITH A CELEBRATORY FEELING. THIS IS MY FAVORITE. I WILL TELL YOU -- IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I HAVE THE HARD COPY IN FRONT OF ME. I WILL ME PROVIDING THE LINK. FIRST AND FOREMOST I AM WHAT WE CALL THE NON-PROFIT PHILANTHROPY COORDINATOR. I WORK ON THE PROJECT, I'M ALSO THE STAFFER FOR THE VOLUNTEER ADVISORY PORED. AND THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CORPORATE VOLUNTEER COUNSEL. AND I RAN THE UNITED WAY CAMPAIGN AND MANY OTHER PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICE. NEXT SLIDE. I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE REASONS WE PUT THIS REPORT TOGETHER IS THE CITY IS THE LARGEST FUNDER OF NON-PROFITS IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND IT IS DUE TO COUNCIL DECISIONS THAT ALLOW THIS FUNDING TO GET TO THOSE MOST IN NEED. THE WAY WE ORGANIZE THE REPORT IS PRIMARILY THROUGH RECEIVING DATA FROM THE DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE I BROKE IT DOWN TO WHERE WE GET OUR INFORMATION. WE ALWAYS THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WHO WE SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND THEY REFER US TO THE ADMINISTRATORS OR ANALYSTS TO RECEIVE THE DATA. WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERSHIPS ASK SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE INTERDEPARTMENTAL. WE REACH OUT TO TEAMS AND PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THINGS. THAT DATA THAT'S IS INTERNAL IS VERIFIED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY TWO MORE THING. THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND WE HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND ALSO WE RECEIVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE SETTLEMENT AND CITY DEPARTMENTS AND AREA ORGANIZATIONS. LAST PIECE OF THAT SLIDE IS A TINY NOTATION FOR THE NEW MEXICO GRANT MAKER ECONOMIC IMPACT REPORT WHICH IS COMPILED BY UNM BUSINESS OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH. THIS INFORMATION HIGHLIGHTS HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE PARTNER WITH IN ALBUQUERQUE SPECIFICALLY UNDER THESE NON-PROFITS PARTNERSHIPS THAT EMPLOY ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT PRIORITIES THAT LED TO THE NEXT SLIDE WHICH IS$300 MILLION. THIS IS BASED ON THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE PARTNERS WE WORK WITH. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE NON-PROFIT ECONOMIC IMPACT. THAT'S THE ONLY EXTERNAL DATA I WANT TO RECOGNIZE FOR THIS REPORT. THIS THIRD SLIDE, JUST IN GENERAL HAS BEAUTIFUL HIGHLIGHT. THE $300 MILLION OF ECONOMIC IMPACT PROVIDED TO THE CITY. 240 ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE -- IT'S A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS WORK WITH AS A WHOLE AND THAT AMOUNTS TO $63.3 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 21 PROVIDED TO THE PARTNERS. WE NOTE THAT THERE'S A SCOPE OF PARTNERSHIPS, THE REASON IT WAS CALLED THE STATE OF PARTNERSHIPS IS WE WON'T JUST HIGHLIGHTS CONTRACTS FOR THESE SERVICES OR DIRECT GRANTS WE ALSO RECOGNIZE HELP -- HELP MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. THE CHAMBERS OF COMERS AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, PARKS, UNM HOSPITAL. ALSO THE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT USES A LOT OF THESE AS WELL. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL HIGHLIGHT OUR COVID FUNDING RELIEF THAT SUPPORTED SO MANY FAMILY AND BUSINESSES IN THAT PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS WERE MEANT TO STIMULATE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND KEEP BUSINESSES OPEN AND ANOTHER INCREDIBLE ONE WAS THE HEALTH LITERACY PROGRAM COORDINATED BY THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. THIS IS A MULTI-AGENCY GRANT AND A MULTI-YEAR GRANT. THE PURPOSE IS TO BE TRAINING COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS AND PROVIDE CULTURE HEALTH EDUCATION AROUND COVID RELIEF AND PROTECTION. SO, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THE $12.8 BILLION AWARDED TO THE ORGANIZATIONS OVER THAT FISCAL YEAR WAS DUE TO COUNCIL APPROPRIATING ARPA FUNDS AND CARES FUNDS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF HOW MUCH THE ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTED NONPROFITS. IT'S $63.3 MILLION. JUST OVER THAT. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF ROUNDING AT THE 100 LEVEL. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE -- 240 AND A THESE -- YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY MUO. THIS IS THE GRANT. AT THE VERY TOP, ARTS AND CULTURE URBAN ENHANCEMENT TRUST FUND HAS 88 PARTNERS REQUESTED. THEY REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH CARES. AND ALSO PROVIDE SPONSORSHIP TO ARTISTS AND ORGANIZATIONS. THE GRANT PARTICULARLY THAT YEAR WERE INCREDIBLE PAUSE THEY PROVIDED SO MUCH PROJECT FORMING FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T TYPICALLY RECEIVE THAT MONEY. NEXT SLIDE. AND BECAUSE AS YOU NOTE FAMILY AND COMMUNITIES SERVICES PROVIDES OVER $53 MILLION IN THAT FISCAL YEAR IT WAS A HUGE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR PARTNER. WE BROKE IT DOWN BY DIVISION TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY PARTNERS THERE WERE AND HOW MANY ACTUAL PROJECT. THERE'S SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE AGREEMENTS WITH DIVISIONS. A TOTAL OF 72 FOR FAMICALLY AND COMMUNITY. THAT'S OVER $53 MILLION. THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAM PROVIDES THE PATH PROGRAM AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT PROGRAM THAT CREATED AN AREA PROVIDER. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY RECREATION EDUCATION INITIATIVE, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES IS THE JOB MENTORSHIP PROGRAM IN 16 SCHOOLS. AND PROVIDE OVER 100 INTERNSHIPS FOR STUDENTS TO TAKE PLACE IN CITY AND GOVERNMENT IN NON-PROFIT AGENCIES. STEPPING BACK FOR A MOMENT, THE POINT OF THIS COPY IS HIGHLIGHTS IS EXAMPLES THAT CITY DEPARTMENTS RECOGNIZE THAT MIGHT BE UNIQUE OR INOIVATIVE IN COVID RELIEF FUNDING OR ANNUAL BUDGET. WEB -- WHEN I GET EXAMPLES OF THAT, I GET DETAILS THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE REPORT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BEING THE SECOND YEAR WE PROVIDED THIS REPORT WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED ALL OF THE BASES AND HIGHLIGHT ANYTHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT CAME UP THAT YEAR. FOR EXAMPLE WE DID -- THE USE OF CARES MONEY AND WHATEVER NEW SERVICES WERE BEING PROVIDED. THE HEALTH HUB IS EVOLVING. THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. AND OF COURSE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY IS A DEPARTMENT TO HIRE THAT YEAR. THAT'S ANOTHER THING FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT HIGHLY UTILIZES REFERRALS AND UNDERSTANDS CONTRACTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. LAST, LOOKING FORWARD. WE'RE LOOKING AT ORGANIZING WORKSHOP FOR OUR POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO HELP BEST PARTNER WITH THE CITY. THERE ARE LOT OF WAYS PEOPLE CAN DO SO BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRANSPARENT AND PROVIDE CLEAR LINKS TO THE REQUESTS. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PARTNERS MIGHT HAVE IN ORDER TO WORK WITH US. AND ENGAGE ON SOCIAL AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND CELEBRATE THOSE IN THE REPORT. AND HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD WORK. THE CONNECTION IS DUE DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT DAVIS REQUEST LAST YEAR. THERE IS A MAP IN HERE THAT HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE AND WE'RE HOPING TO IMPROVE THAT TOOL SO IT'S MORE INTERACTIVE AND BE FOUND SO ANYONE CAN FIND WHO OUR PARTNERS ARE WORKING WITH OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NON-PROFITS TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING TIME TO SHARE THESE STORIES. I'M PROUD OF OUR IMPACT AND THANK YOU FOR THIS. QUESTIONS? >>COUN. GROUT: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE LINKS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT ON OUR LIST, IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE DIRECTOR SANCHEZ HERE AND SHE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION. >> HELLO, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, VICE-PRESIDENT GROUT AND COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. HERE WE GO. SO, ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL IS THREE YEARS AWAY. THREE AND A HALF YEARS AWAY. IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME BUT IT'S A MAJOR MILESTONE. THANKS TO THE GOOD WORK OF THE COUNCIL AND APPROPRIATIONS WE'RE ALREADY DEEP INTO PLANNING. I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL, A LOT OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CENTENNIAL AND KNOW IT'S AROUND THE CORNER BECAUSE FIVE OF YOUR DISTRICTS ACTUALLY BORDER OR INCLUDE PART OF CENTRAL. THE COMMUNITY WATCHING, NOVEMBER 11, 2026 WILL BE THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL. IT TURNS A HUNDRED. A FEW THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST PAVED ROAD TO CROSS ALL OF NEW MEXICO. ALBUQUERQUE HAS THE LONGEST URBAN STRETCH. 18 MILES. THAT'S ACROSS ALL OF ROUTE 66. ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF THAT. ROUTE 66 CAN HELP TO FIND OUR CITY AND THE CORRIDOR THROUGHOUT THE CITY IT'S CENTRAL AVENUE. IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE A DRIVER, REGIONAL, NATIONAL, AND INTERNATIONAL TOURISM. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHY PEOPLE COME TO ALBUQUERQUE NOW. WHY PEOPLE CAME THROUGH ALBUQUERQUE. HOW ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPED AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US. THAT'S WHY I THINK A LOT OF YOU ALREADY KNOW WE'RE INVESTED IN THIS. I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY SOME OF FOCUSED FOR 2023, 2024, AND 2025. THIS IS PRETTY HIGH LEVEL TO YOUED THIS IS JUST GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. IN 2023 WE'RE FOCUSING ON DEFINING ALL OF THE PROJECTS. MAKING SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, KNOW WHERE WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD AND GATHERING INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS. AND INTEGRATING EXISTING PLANS AND PROMTHS. SOME OF MAY REMEMBER THERE'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT ROUTE 66 ACTION PLAN THIS CITY INVESTED IN. AND THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER CORRIDOR PLANS RELATED. THERE'S A LOT ALREADY BEEN DONE. WE'RE DIBBINGING DIGGING THROUGH THESE AND MAKING OUT THE WORK THAT ALREADY HAPPENED. LAUNCHING THE HISTORIC SCIENCE INITIATIVE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE STARTED IN 2022. WE ACTUALLY HAVE COMPLETED WITH A CONTRACTOR A COMPLETE LIST OF EXISTING HISTORIC SIGNS TO PUT IN PLACE ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE. AND THEIR LOCATION AND A MAP AND WHO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACTUALLY REFURBISH, REDO, REINVEST IN THE SIGNS. WE'LL HAVE THAT REPORT FOR COUNCIL IN MARCH. THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. ALSO CORRECTING ACCESS AND CONTENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZING RESOURCES IN THE MUSEUM AND ARCHIVES. WE'RE PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS TO ADD IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE FOCUSING ON INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS AND WE'LL GET TO THAT LIST IN A MINUTE THAT HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY AS WE PUSH FORWARD FOR THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL. THERE'S A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS. LOT OF THINGS EXCITING ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES AND THE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO REALLY COORDINATE WELL WITH THEM. AND THEN OUR BIG JOB OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS IS ESTABLISH GOOD TIMELINES MILESTONES AND BUDGETS FOR ALL OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO. WHICH INCLUDES ROBUST WEBSITE AND INVESTING IN HISTORIC SIGNS AND A PROMOTION CAMPAIGN, CORRIDOR WORK, AND A REALLY EXCITING AND INTERESTING CALENDAR OF EVENTS. IN ADDITION TO THE INTEN VOYEUR OF SIGNS WITCH WE HAVE COMPLETED WE STARTED DOING STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND I'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON OUR LIST OF PROJECTS ONGOING IN THE COMMUNITY. FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NON-PROFITS ALSO GETTING READY FOR THIS. 2024, IT'S DESIGN AND BUILT. FINISH DESIGNING AND ACTUALLY MAKING ALL THE PIECES COME TOGETHER. WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH PROMOTIONAL STRATEGY AND PUBLISH EVENTS CALENDAR FOR 2026. WE'RE GOING TO PUBLISH IT IN 2024 BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE WHEN THEY'RE VISITING ROUTE 66 DURING THE CENTENNIAL YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO COORDINATE WITH OUR ROUTE 66 STAKEHOLDERS. AND WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH THE ROUTE 66 WEBSITE NEXT YEAR AND WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY BE EXECUTING AND COMPLEING SIGN AND CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS. AND IN 2025, NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE DELIVERING ON ALL THESE THINGS. WE KIND OF SEE 2025 FOR THE LAUNCH FOR THE CELEBRATION. EVEN THOUGH THE DATE IS NOVEMBER 2026, WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE ALL OF 2026 BUT WE WANT TO LAUNCH THE CELEBRATION IN SUMMER OF 2025. THAT GIVES US A COUPLE EVENT SEASONS AND ACTIVATE AND CAPITALIZE ON VISITORS. REGIONAL, NATIONAL, AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS. OF COURSE OUR MARKETING AND NATIONAL AUDIENCES. WE NEED SERIOUS LEAD TIME TO HAVE MAJOR IMPACT. NEXT SLIDE. I MENTIONED STAKEHOLDERS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. STARTING THIS MONTH, QUARTERLY MEETINGS FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL. THIS INCLUDES MANY FAVORITES YOU HAVE ALMOST EVERY WEEK. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SOLID WASTE, METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING TRANSIT AND OF COURSE ARTS AND CULTURE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE CORRIDOR AND PLANS IN PLACE MOVING FORWARD WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE CALENDARS ARE COORDINATED. AND OF COURSE OTHER IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS, CITY COUNCIL, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUSINESSES, AND NON-PROFITS AND THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR OTHER GROUPS, YOU HAD A ROUTE 66 GROUP AND PEOPLE THAT IDENTIFY IN TERMS OF ACTIVITIES WITH THE ROUTE 66 HISTORIC ORGANIZATIONS BOTH LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY AND NATIONALLY. THIS IS THE LONG LIST OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE ROUTE 66 AND WHO ARE WORKING TOWARD THE CENTENNIAL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR EFFORTS ARE SUPPORTED BY THE CITY AND INTEGRATED INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING. NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE STARTED SOME STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK. THIS IS A SURVEY AND MANY ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH RETAIL AND BUSINESS OWNERS UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR. AND IT'S -- WE'LL HAVE THIS REPORT FOR YOU IN MARCH OR APRIL. WE STARTED SOME INTERESTING THINGS. STAKEHOLDER ARE VERY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE CENTENNIAL AND BIG CELEBRATIONS. THEY WANT TO HONOR THE UNIQUE CULTURE AND VIBRANCY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THEY WANT US TO AMPLIFY EXISTING PROGRAMS. ENGAGE BUSINESSES ALONG ROUTE 66. PRESERVE ROUTE 66 HISTORY PARAMOWNS. AND CARS AND NEON SIGNS COMING UP OFTEN. ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SAFETY CONCERNS MUST BE ADDRESSED. THEY WANT ADDITIONAL ROUTE 66 SIGNAGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY WANT TO ENGAGE YOUNGER GENERATIONS. AND THEN HONOR AND SHOWCASE NATIVE-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC HISTORY. AND THERE'S CONFLICTING PERSPECTIVE ON THE CELEBRATION THEME. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO EMBRACE THE NOSTALGIA AND THERE'S A GROUP THAT WANTS TO LOOK FOR THE FUTURE. BUT MANY PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THE FUTURE OF ROUTE 66 IS COMMERCE AND COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THEMES THAT CAME UP A LOT IN EARLY CONVERSATIONS. NEXT SLIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US IS IT'S GOING TO BE OUR PARTNERS. WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTNERS EARLY IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT'S VISIT ABQ. I'M GOING TO ASK TONYA TO COME UP HERE BECAUSE SHE'S BETTER EQUIPPED TO TALK ABOUT PROMOTING THE CITY NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY. >> GOOD EVENING, PLEASED TO BE HERE JUST TO TAG ON TO THE CONVERSATION IN REGARD TO THE CENTENNIAL. NO DOUBT THIS IS A REALLY TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 100 YEARS OF ROUTE 66. WE KNOW THE IMPORTANCE THAT IT PLAYS IN OUR HISTORY AND OUR FUTURE AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE FOR ALBUQUERQUE. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHTS A FEW THINGS. WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO TRAVEL MEDIA ABOUT THIS. THERE'S ALREADY INTEREST NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY ABOUT THE CENTENNIAL OF ROUTE 66. AND THE OPPORTUNITY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WEBSITE CREATION. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DIRECTOR SANCHEZ AND HER TEAM ON THE WEBSITE CREATION TO MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF TO CELEBRATE ROUTE 66 AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE AND OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTRACT NEW VISITORS. NOT ONLY FOR 2026 BUT LEADING UP TO IT. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHINE A LIGHT ON ALBUQUERQUE AND INTRODUCING VISITORS. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS IF DONE RIGHT TO ATTRACT OF INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLERS. ROUTE 66 HAS BEEN APPEALING TO INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLERS. AND BRINGING PEOPLE BACK TO ALBUQUERQUE. IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BACK IN A WHILE. LET'S BRING THOSE FOLKS TO ALBUQUERQUE AND INTRODUCE THEM TO AN ALBUQUERQUE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. WE'RE HONORED TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND DIRECTOR SANCHEZ AND JUST NOTING WHY TOURISM IS IMPORTANT AND WHAT THIS OPPORTUNITY GIVES US. $2 BILLION INDUSTRY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS NEW MONEY TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW ON THAT AND GROW TOURISM. AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE COMMUNITY CAN BE THE NEXT RESIDENT OR THE NEXT BUSINESS OWNER IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, BOTH. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE A COMMENT AND QUESTION. I THINK THIS IS AWESOME. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. MY OFFICE IS RIGHT ON ROUTE 66. I GET TO SEE ROUTE 66 EVERY SINGLE DAY. I DRIVE DOWN IT. FOUR OR FIVE, SOMETIMES TEN TIMES A DAY. I'M ON THE WEST END OF ROUTE 66. I ALSO DRIVE UP AND DOWN JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M MOVING AROUND ROUTE 66. I FREQUENTLY DRIVE THE WHOLE DISTANCE. BACK WHEN I OWNED A HARLEY I USED TO DO THE SAME THING. RIDE UP AND DOWN ROUTE 66. THE THING THAT DISTURBS ME THE MOST ABOUT ROUTE 66 IS THE AMOUNT OF DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS, CLOSED DOORS, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE SHUT DOWN AND IT'S JUST SO MANY THAT WE CAN'T EVEN -- YOU CAN'T EVEN COUNT IT'S SO MANY. I KNOW THAT THE ART PROJECT ADDED TO THAT. THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH ROUTE 66 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOSEN UP CENTRAL. MAKE AREAS WHERE WE CAN MAKE MORE TURNS. MAKE LEFTTURNS. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THE PROGRESS OF ROUTEF -- OF 66. SO WHEN WE GET TO THE CENTENNIAL WE CAN TRULY ESTABLISH THAT EVENT WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OPENED UP ON ROUTE 66. WE NEED TO START EARLY. SO, RIGHT NOW I'M HOPING THAT THE OTHER COUNCILORS AGREE WITH ME THAT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE ROUTE 66 MORE APPROACHABLE. SO THAT WHEN ROUTE 66 IS HERE, WE HAVE THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. I'D LIKE TO ASK ALL CITY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION EVERYBODY TO FIND A WAY AND IF IT MEANS WORKING AROUND THE ART PROJECT OR CHANGING IT, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN TRACK MORE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE SO OUR VISITORS CAN COME DOWN AND ACTUALLY STAY AND ENJOY ROUTE 66. AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW EARLY ON TO DEAL WITH IT. I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY IS HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE OPEN UP CENTRAL SO IT GETS DESTINATION HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A COUPLE COMMENT. ONE OF THEM IS A SMALL OVERSIGHT. JUST THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE ONLY PLACE IN THE NATION WHERE THE ROUTE CLASSES ITSELF. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THAT. AND ALSO JUST HAD SOME PLANS FOR THAT AREA TOO. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I THINK WE HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE STARTING EARLY, WE'RE DOING ALL THE LEGWORK AND GROUND WORK TO GET SOME OF THE THINGS IN PLACE. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED DIALOGUE. LET'S MAKE THIS THE BEST CELEBRATION IN THE NATION FOR THE HISTORIC ROUTE. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE TIMELINE. THAT REALLY PUTS MY THOUGHTS AT EASE. AND KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH PLANNING TO DO AND I LOVE IT ALREADY. I'M EXCITED YOU'RE HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS. I LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING THOSE ONCE IN A WHILE. THANK YOU, BOTH. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS QUESTIONS. ADMIN QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I SUBMITTED LAST WEEK. I'M GOING TO START WITH WE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE CPOA ORDINANCE UPDATE. I'M CURIOUS WHY THE MAYOR DIDN'T CHOOSE TO SIGN IT. I'M CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY HE CHOSE NOT TO SIGN IT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- CAN YOU HEAR ME? COUNCILOR BASSAN, I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS AND HIS DECISION. THE ADMINISTRATION BASICALLY FELT THAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A REALLY COUNCIL PROCESS. AS IT RELATES TO CPOA AND HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE RESTRUCTURED. ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD A COUPLE AMENDMENTS WE THOUGHT MIGHT HELP STRENGTHEN THE PROCESS A BIT. AND THEY WERE NOT PUT ON IT FOR CONSIDERATION. AS A RESULT OF THAT FACT THAT IT WAS A COUNCIL DRIVEN PROCESS THE MAYOR FELT LIKE THIS IS THEIR WORK. WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I THINK LETTING GO WITHOUT MY SIGNATURE ACKNOWLEDGING THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL THAT IT NEEDS TO GET DONE. BUT WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SOME PARTICIPATION IN THE DECISION-MAKING. OTHERWISE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A FEW OTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TURF CURRENTLY HOUSED IN RIO RANCHO. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR AN UPDATE. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WAS ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH THAT WERE USING THAT TURF. I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE NUMBERS. I THINK WE DO. FOR THE PUBLIC I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. HOW MANY ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH HAVE USED THE INDOOR TURF LOCATED IN RIO RANCHO THAT BELONGS TO ALBUQUERQUE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC IS HERE. HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ON YOUR BEHALF. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I BELIEVE THE SUMMARY FIGURES WE PROVIDED -- WE DID PULL TOGETHER OUR BEST INFORMATION. THE SUMMARY FIGURES WE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL. TOTAL 14 EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD OR SCHEDULED. WE EXPECT TO SERVE ABOUT 1400 YOUTH TOTAL. WHEN WE COMPLETED ALL THE EVENTS. WE STILL HAVE, I BELIEVE, FOUR SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT -- HANG ON. SEVEN OF THOSE EVENTS ARE FOR THE NEW MEXICO ELITE ALL STARS TEAM WHICH I THINK IS FABULOUS. THEY'RE A RIO RANCHO TEAM. I WONDER, THE REST OF THEM, FROM THE WEBSITE, ARE RIO RANCHO BASED. ARE THE REST ON THESE ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH WE'RE TAKING CARE OF AND USING THIS TURF AND THIS LOCATION? >> I BELIEVE THAT PROGRAM IS CITY WIDE. THEY DO HAVE CHILDREN INVOLVED FROM AROUND THE METRO. AND MULTIPLE AGE GROUPS IN THAT SOCCER PROGRAM. AND WITH RESPECT TO THE EXACT BREAKDOWN OF ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH VERSUS OTHERS, I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS BUT THE PREPONDERANCE OF THESE ARE FROM ALBUQUERQUE AND THE ONES WE HAVE SCHEDULED ARE FOCUSED ON ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I JUST DID A QUICK SEARCH. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'LL DIG DEEPER AND DOUBLE CHECK AND EDUCATE MYSELF FOR THE FUTURE. HOW ARE WE GETTING THE ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH? ARE THEY HAVING FAMILIES DRIVE THEM OR DO WE OFFER SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THEY COMMUTE SO WE OFFICER THE OPPORTUNITY TO THOSE CHILDREN THAT NEED TO GET A DISTANCE AWAY TO UTILIZE THAT FIELD? >> RIGHT. COUNCILOR, WE DO NOT OFFER A TRANSPORTATION SERVICE TO THE FACILITY. MOSTLY FAMILIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING KIDS TO PROGRAMS WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR KIDS ACCESSING THOSE WITHIN THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION OPTION TO ANY OTHER -- MOST OF THE OTHER YOUTH PRACTICE AREAS EITHER. IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ENHANCE HOW WE CAN CONNECT THE CITY BETTER. I THINK MOSTLY IT'S BEEN FAMILIES PROVIDING THAT TRANSPORTATION. EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A FEW ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WHICH SOMETIMES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. IN MY OPINION FOR THE RECORD ON THAT MOST OF THE STUFF IS WITHIN OUR CITY TOO. TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO BUY SOMETHING AND PUT IT IN ANOTHER CITY IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE FROM ALBUQUERQUE TO SUPPORT THINGS WE PAID FOR HERE. ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING THE TURF, WHAT IS THE FUTURE PLAN? WE GOT THE AGREEMENT THE CITY SIGNED BETWEEN THE GLADIATERS AND CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND RIO RANCHO FACILITY, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR IT ONCE THAT AGREEMENT ENDS? >> RIGHT. COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE'RE EVALUATING ALL OPTIONS FOR THAT. OUR INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE FIELD COME HOME TO ALBUQUERQUE. THAT'S STILL VERY ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT. I THINK IT'S -- WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE EXPIRATION ON THE AGREEMENT. WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW ALL OPTIONS. BUT OUR FAVORITE OPTION IS TO BRING IT HOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, THAT'S MY FAVORITE OPTION TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT IT'S UNRELATED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM-VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: IT'S COUNCILOR LEWIS AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, THE FUNDING FOR THE FIELD WAS A REQUEST FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE. IT WAS REALLY INITIATED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THE MAYOR AND A COUPLE STATE LEGISLATORS WORKED ON IT. BUT THEY HAVE A MUNICIPALITY TO WORK THROUGH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS US AS THE MUNICIPALITY PAID FOR THE FIELD. AND THE IDEA IS WE GET REIMBURSED BY THE STATE FOR THAT FIELD. THAT WAS THE PLAN, CORRECT? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE FIRST PART OF THAT QUESTION. THE PROJECT WAS INITIATED BY LEGISLATORS. WE DID AGREE TO BE THE MUNICIPAL SPONSOR FOR THE CAPITAL OUTLAY PROJECT. WE'RE REQUESTED TO DO THAT AND IT'S A FUNCTION THE CITY HAS DONE IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE THE MUNICIPAL PARTNER FOR THAT PROJECT. THE CAPITAL OUTLAY APPROPRIATION WOULD NORMALLY GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS WHEREBY MUNICIPALITY SPENDS MONEY AND SEEKS REIMBURSEMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE SOUGHT REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT, CORRECT? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT YET. I'M STILL OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: ARE THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THE STATE IS GOING TO PAY US FOR THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE FIELD? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S SOME PAPERWORK NOT IN ORDER OR CORRECT. WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR? WHAT IS THE HOLD UP, I GUESS I WOULD SAY. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, FIRST OF ALL I THINK THE CITY DID DISAGREE WITH THE PREMISE OF THE STATE'S POSITION ON THE REIMBURSEMENT. WE FEEL WE MET THE TERMS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. HOWEVER, IF ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD INCREASE THE CONFIDENCE IN THAT WOULD BE HAVING THE FIELD BACK IN THE CITY THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU THINK THAT MAY ONE OF THE REASONS THEY'RE NOT REIMBURSING? >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT ARE THE OTHER REASONS? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK WE HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT WHICH IS AN EXCHANGE. THERE'S A BALANCING ACT OF USE VERSUS BENEFITS. AND WE SPELLED THAT OUT TO THE STATE AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE THING THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE MADE AN AGREEMENT. A THREE-WAY AGREEMENT THAT BENEFITS ALL PARTIES. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHEN WOULD THEY REIMBURSE US? WHEN TYPICALLY WOULD WE GET REIMBURSED? IT'S BEEN A YEAR, OR SO. TYPICALLY IT'S WITHIN A MONTH OR SO. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE NEVER QUITE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE REIMBURSED. SOMETIMES IT'S RAPIDLY, SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE DEPENDING ON THE WORKLOAD IN SANTA FE. THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WILL DEPEND ON WHEN THE STATE -- EXCUSE ME WHEN THE CITY REOPENS THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU NEGOTIATE THAT? IS THAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLAINT WITH THAT -- COMPLIANT WITH THE REQUEST? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT'S A TEM EFFORT. UTILIING A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS THAT INTERFACE. >>COUN. LEWIS: CITY ATTORNEY INVOLVED IN THAT? >> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENTS OFTEN ALSO LEAD IN OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY WORK. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, VICE-PRESIDENT GROUT. MY QUESTION IS WHY IN THE WORLD DO WE GET INTO AN AGREEMENT WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY OR THE KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED OR NOT? THAT'S SOMETHING -- NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS INSTEAD OF PERMISSION. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS AMOUNTING TO. WHY DOES THE CITY GET US IN THIS KIND OF PREDICAMENT? AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THAT DECISION? IS IT THE MAYOR? IS IT YOU? WHO MADE THE DECISION IN THE FIRST PLACE TO HAVE OUR TURF BE IN ANOTHER CITY? WHO MADE THAT DECISION? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I THINK WE WENT INTO THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE BELIEF THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THAT TIME. SO THE CITIZENS NOT ONLY OF THE CITY BUT OF THE METRO AREA WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT RIGHT AWAY AND THE YOUTH COULD BE ABLE TO USE THIS FACILITY RIGHT AWAY RATHER THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS KIND OF ASSET IN THE CITY AND IN THE METRO. WITH RESPECT TO THE DECISION, I THINK THAT WAS AGAIN CHECKIVE DECISION OF THE BEST WAY TO DEPLOY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHO MADE THAT DECISION SIR? >> MR. -- COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU KNOW, I WORKED ON THE AGREEMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AN AGREEMENT NOT 100% SURE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A REIMBURSEMENT? WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AN AGREEMENT WHEN YOU WORK FOR THIS CITY AND YOU PUT TURF IN ANOTHER CITY? WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THAT AGREEMENT? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR, THE CITY DID THAT WITH THE EXPECTATION WE WOULD BE REBIM URS -- REIMBURSED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ISN'T IS THERE A CONTRACT THAT WAS WE WILL GET REIMBURSED? OR DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HOPE AND PRAY AND PLEAD? WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS UP FRONT? IT SEEMS YOU WRITE UP A CONTRACT AND KNOW HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE. I MEAN, WE HAVE HOW MANY FLOORS FULL OF LAWYERS IN CITY HALL? IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO MAKE AND DO A CONTRACT AND PUT IT TOGETHER SO THAT WE AS A CITY COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING. IN REFERENCE TO THIS. IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT A DEAL WAS MADE AND IT WASN'T THOUGHT OUT PROPERLY. AND NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH ASK FOR FORGIVENESS INSTEAD OF PERMISSION. SOMEBODY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, LET ME JUST SAY THIS. THE CITY HANDLES MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE APPROPRIATIONS EVERY YEAR. WE ARE ALL UP THERE RIGHT NOW LOOKING FOR FUNDS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC AND TO YOU, COUNCILOR, 99% OF THE APPROPRIATIONS WORK VERY WELL. AND WE ALL ARE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THOSE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT COME TO THE COMMUNITY. EVERY ONE OF THE CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUESTS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE BEFORE WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND MANY OTHER PROJECTS. THAT AGREEMENT COMES BACK FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS BASICALLY YES WE'RE AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD ANY OF THESE PROJECTS. IT'S CALLED A NOTICE OF MOVING FORWARD. WE HAD ONE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. IT WAS ONLY AFTER THE PROJECT WAS INSTITUTED AND AFTER WE RAN INTO THE ISSUE THAT WE COULD NOT FIND A LOCATION TO HAVE THE TURF LOCATED AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE MAKING A DECENT OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE TURF THAT WE WERE NOTIFIED BY -- AFTER ASKED FOR REIMBURSEMENT, BECAUSE REMEMBER THEY'RE ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. THIS APPROPRIATION IS STILL AVAILABLE UP UNTIL 2025. WE DO HAVE SOME TIME TO GO BACK AND GET OUR REIMBURSEMENT. TO THE POINT THAT MR. SIMON SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING THAT TURF BACK TO THE CITY. AND FINDING A LOCATION FOR THAT SO ONE PARTICULAR IGZ GOES AWAY IT RELATES TO WHETHER IT'S IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS HOW DO WE ENTER INTO ARRANGEMENT FOR THE USE OF THE TURF THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE STATE. I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT WE'RE NOT OUT THE MONEY, YET. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE DFA TO MAKE THE ISSUE WORK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL APPRECIATE THIS. THERE'S MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE WORK ON EVERY DAY AND EVERY YEAR AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT AND THE CITY BENEFITS FROM THAT. THIS IS ONE APPROPRIATION THAT DIDN'T QUITE WORK THE WAY WE SCOPED IT OUT AND WE'RE WORKING TO RECTIFY IT AND GET IT DONE CORRECTLY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE HEARD ABOUT IT AFTER THE FACT. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. IN REFFANCE TO US AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. YOU SAID EARLIER THAT THE COUNCIL WITH REFERENCE TO THE OTHER ISSUE WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING, WHY IS IT DIFFERENT? WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS IF THIS KIND OF MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT IN ANOTHER CITY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ALL OF US COUNCILORS KNOW ABOUT IT. BOTTOM LINE, WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE TURF BACK? IT'S OURS, WHEN DOES IT COME BACK? >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. JUST REMEMBER TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST WANT HIM TO ANSWER THAT ONE QUESTION. >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND EXPLORING THAT POSSIBILITY. I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AND WORK WITH OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AND GET BACK WITH YOU WITH A MORE APPROPRIATE DATE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST REAL QUICK, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE GLADIATE -- THEY CAN'T COME BACK DUE TO COVID. THERE'S SOME THINGS AND JUMBO TRON THAT TINGLY WOULD NEED TO HAVE. IF WE COULD GET THEM TO COME BACK TO TINGLY. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CHOICE OF THE GLADUTORS. IT'S A GREAT FOOTBALL CLUB AND THEY REALLY HARD TO CREATE A GREAT PRODUCT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY. I WONDER WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP THEM GET BACK INTO TINGLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE GOVERNOR'S CHOICE ANYMORE. I THINK IT'S JUST COMPLYING WITH THEIR OTHER LEAGUE REQUIREMENTS IN THE FACILITY THAT THEY USE. IF THERE'S SOME WAY, DIRECTOR, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM GET BACK INTO TINGLY AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE FIELD AND GET THAT BALL CLUB PLAYING IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, ALTHOUGH TINGLY IS STATE-OWNED IT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IF WE CAN HELP WITH THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. WE'RE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. DIALOGUE IS OUR GOAL TO HELP THIS TEAM BE BACK IN THE CITY. WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY ALONG THOSE LINES. WE WILL -- WE ARE HAPPY TO KEEP YOU AND THE COUNCILORS POSTED ON THE PROGRESS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION TOO. IN THE AGREEMENT THERE'S A DEAL FOR 50 FREE TICKETS TO THE HOME GAMES. HOW ARE THOSE TICKETS DISTRIBUTED AND WHO USE THEM? >> MADAM VICE-CHAIR, THOSE TICKETS ARE GENERALLY DISTRIBUTED TO FIRST AND FOREMOST WE LIKE TO GET THEM IN THE HANDS OF YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS. SECONDLY, THEY'RE MADE AVAILABLE FOR SOME BLUE COLLAR STAFF IN THE CITY TO UTILIZE TO BRING THEIR FAMILIES. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WILL YOU BE BRINGING THE EXTENSION IF THEY DECIDE TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT, WILL YOUBRI THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IF AN AGREEMENT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GO TO COUNCIL WE SHALL BRING IT TO YOU. ABSOLUTELY. >>COUN. GROUT: ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU'RE USING THE YOUTH -- THE YOUTH OF ALBUQUERQUE ARE USING OUR PARKS FOR THEIR SPORTS, DO YOU SEPARATE OR ALTERNATE PARKS THE USE OF THE PARKS SO ONE PARK ISN'T OVERUSED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE SCHEDULE SOMEWHERE AROUND 150 OF OUR CITY PARK FACILITIES FOR SOME TYPE OF YOUTH SPORTS, PRACTICES, AND COMPETITIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. NOT ALL 150 SITES ARE UTILIZED ALL THE TIME. YES, THERE'S SOME ROTATION. ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT DEMAND FOR THE GRASS AND PARTICULARLY THE BEST FIELDS THAT ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE LARGER TEAMS. WE DO TRY TO, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY LOCATE. BUT OUR PRINCIPLE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE TURF IN GOOD CONDITIONS SO WHEN WE SEE ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE FROM USE OR OVERUSE WE LIKE TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION ABOUT THE LIST THAT YOU GAVE US OF THE YOUTH THAT WERE USING THE FIELD. I NOTICED THAT NINE DAYS -- THERE WERE NINE DAYS THEY USED THEM ALL IN A ROW. ONE OF THE DAYS WAS ON THANKSGIVING. WERE A HUNDRED KIDS OUT THERE ON THANKSGIVING? >> I WAS THOUGHT -- NOT THERE ON THANKSGIVING. THESE WERE THE DAYS SCHEDULED AND THE REPORTS RECEIVED ON YOUTH PARTICIPATION. I LIKE TO WORK UP AN APPETITE BEFORE THAT MEAL. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO RUN AROUND IN THE MORNING AND HOW DOWN IN THE AFTERNOON. >>COUN. GROUT: I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I'VE NEVER KNOWN FOR YOUTH ACTIVITIES TO BE TAKING PLACE ON THANKSGIVING. >> I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THE DATE FOR YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: WOULD YOU DO THAT? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR SIMON. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS FOR ADMIN. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS REGARDING THE DEZHEART -- DESERT HILLS PROPERTY. I'M CURIOUS, WHAT ARE THE PLANS. THE DESERT HILLS PROPERTY, THE ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING FOR $15 MILLION FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THIS IS A FACILITY THAT HAS A BUNCH OF IDEAS BUT NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED OUT WITH THE COUNCIL OR IN HARDLY ANYTHING AS FAR AS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. IF ALBUQUERQUE GETS ANY FUNDING FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE PER THAT $15 MILLION REQUEST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS PROJECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, LET ME HAVE MS. PIERCE VISIT ABOUT THE REQUEST AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE FUNDS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE REQUEST THAT WAS PUT IN FOR THE CAPITAL MONEY IS PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WHAT WE HOPE THAT I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THAT IF THE STATE WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND THE COUNTY THERE CAN BE OTHER GAPS FILLED. BUT THE REQUEST FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, THANK YOU. I'M ALL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'M ON BOARD WITH ALL OF THAT. I'M VERY CONCERNED AND HESITANT TO GET FUNDING FOR A BUILDING AND PROPERTY THAT HAS CONCERNS AND A LOT OF IDEAS BUT NOT NECESSARILY ANY CONCRETE -- NOT ANY CONCRETE PLANS, THAT'S LOT OF MONEY TO BE ASKING FOR TO THROW IT AT THE WALL AND SEE IF IT STICKS. THAT IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE AT THIS POINT. I'M JUST SHARING MY OPINION SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR IT. I TALKED TO DC SMATHERS EARLIER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, IF I MAY. DC, HEARING THE STORIES THIS WEEKEND AND THE NEW LICENSE PLATE MISSION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ON WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE LICENSE PLATES ON THEIR CARS. I TALKED WITH A FEW PARTICULAR PEOPLE IN MY UNIVERSE AND THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH WHY ISN'T IT MORE THAN A $25 FINE. IF YOU CAN HELP CLARIFY THAT. I THINK IF SOMEBODY IS DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE PLATE I THINK $25 IS MENIAL FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT IS A STATUTORY FINE. AT THE DISCRETION OF THE JUDGE THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE COURT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. I SHARE YOUR CONCERN THAT MAY NOT BE A MOTIVATING AMOUNT OF MONEY. THAT IS THE CURRENT PRACTICE. THAT IS THE FINE TYPICALLY ASSESSED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, DC, I FIGURED THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE CASE WHEN I FIRST ASKED YOU ABOUT IT. I RESPECT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE WHOLE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY AND WHAT REALLY THIS IS GOING AFTER TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY WITH SAFETY. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE HIGHEST PAID CITY EMPLOYEES, I WANTED TO ASK IN REFERENCE TO -- IS THE FIRE CHIEF HERE? CHIEF -- >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S HERE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. >> I CAN GET INFORMATION TO YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE QUESTION I HAVE IS I KNOW AFR IS ALMOST FULLY STAFFED. THEY HAD ANOTHER CLASS THEY JUST HAD MOVE INTO THE STREETS. AND I NOTIING NOW THAT THE HIGHEST PAID -- THE SEVEN HIGHEST PAID PEOPLE WERE LIEUTENANTS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. LIEUTENANT, BATTALION LIEUTENANTS AND PIO. WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE CONTROVERSY AT APD WITH THESE SAME ISSUES. I WANTED TO ASK THE FIRE CHIEF WHAT HE'S DOING, AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH A FULLY STAFFED FIRE DEPARTMENT WHY ARE WE HAVING SUCH A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, LET ME -- I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BUT I JUST KNOW ENOUGH TO PROBABLY NOT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ASKED AFTER I MAKE A MY RESPONSE. I'M HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF VISIT WITH YOU OR AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I WILL SAY ONE OF THE AREAS WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE SHORTAGE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS WITH CERTIFIED EMTs. THAT IS A REALLY BIG CHALLENGE FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW THAT PART OF THAT CHALLENGE IS HAVING TO HAVE DIFFERENT UNIT EQUIPMENT STAFFED WITH OVERTIME SIMPLY JUST SO WE HAVE THE EMTs AS PER OUR LICENSESURE REQUIREMENTS. LET ME HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF GET BACK WITH YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE'RE SEEING BATTALION LIEUTENANTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF EMT UNIT OR IF HE'S A HIGHER CLASS THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO HEAR THAT EXPLANATION BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF OVERTIME HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FOR APD. CHIEF MEDINA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT:ING I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT ON SATURDAY NIGHT I HAD THE PLEASURE OF JOINING IN ON A DWI CHECK POINT. I HAVE GREAT THINGS TO SAY. FIRST OF ALL THE OFFICERS WERE MAGNIFICENT. THEY WERE METHODICAL AND RESPECTFUL. THEY WERE DOING THEIR JOB. IT WAS AMAZING WHAT THEY DID. THE OTHER THING I NOTICED WAS ALL OF THE PEOPLE THEY WERE STOPPING. THEY STOPPED 296 CARS. THEY WERE ABLE TO ARREST FIVE DWI PEOPLE. AND I WATCHED THE PROCESS. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. THEY HAVE THE PATIENCE. ALL OF THOSE CARS, ALL OF THOSE OCCUPANTS OF THE CARS WERE ALL RESPECTFUL. IT WAS REALLY, REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT ON BOTH SIDES. IT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE. I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH IT AGAIN, ONE DAY. BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE MAYOR'S SECURITY DETAIL? >> I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE FOR ONE SECOND. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAVE TWO FULL-TIME MEMBERS ON THE MAYOR'S PROTECTIVE DETAIL AND WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS THAT PERFORM THAT AS A COLLATERAL DUTY AND ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL DUTIES WITHIN APD. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS UTILIZED? >> THAT HONESTLY CAN VERY SIGNIFICANTLY BASED ON THE TWO PERMANENT PEOPLE TAKING PERSONAL BENEFIT TIME OR IF THEY TAKE SICK LEAVE OR IF THE DEMANDS OF THE MAYOR'S SCHEDULE AND HOW MANY SITES NEED TO BE COVERED. IT CAN VARY. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU A DATE RANGE I CAN DRILL DOWN ON TO THAT. IT WOULD VARY SIGNIFICANTLY BASED ON DEMAND AND THE PERSONNEL WHO IS AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THOSE DUTIES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS. >> I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR. I MIGHT ADD ONE PARTICULAR IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT. THAT IS AS THE CHIEF SAID DEPENDING ON THE DUTIES OF THE DAY, AS FOR EXAMPLE AT THIS VERY MOMENT WE HAVE THE SECURITY DETAIL THAT IS NOW UBSTAIRS MONITORING WITH THE COUNCIL MEETING. THEY MONITOR ALL THE CITY COUNTAL MEETINGS. AS THE CHIEF SAID, IF YOU HAVE AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY OF WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND THE OTHERS WILL TAKE THE EVENING SHIFTS LOOK THIS ONE WATCHING THESE MEETINGS. THEY DO SOME OF THAT WORK AS WELL. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. NOW I WANT TO SWITCH GREERS -- GEARS JUST A LITTLE BIT. WHO IS IN CHARGE OF RECRUITING FOR APD? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, CURRENTLY I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF ON ACCOUNTABILITIES BUREAU WHICH INCLUDES THE TRAINING ACADEMY WHICH INCLUDES RECRUITING AND BACKGROUND. WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT THAT OVERSEES RECRUITING AND BACKGROUND SECTION. AND WE HAVE A RECRUITING SERGEANT AND THAT'S WHO MANAGES THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT KIND OF EVENTS DO YOU DO? >> WE DID OVER 190 IN 2022. THERE'S SEVERAL TYPES OF EVENTS WE ATTEND. WE ATTEND HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE CAREER FAURS. WE GO TO MILITARY INSTITUTION. AND WE GO TO REGULAR CITY EVENTS WE HAVE. THERE'S A VARIETY ACROSS THE GAMUT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO OUT TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS? >> WE DID SEE A COUPLE THINGS LAST YEAR, ONE OF WHICH WERE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE WENT TO 24 AND FOR COLLEGES WE WENT TO 32. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT PLACE TO LOOK FOR PSA, POTENTIAL PSAs. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START AND HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD LOVE TO JOIN THE HIGHER RANKS WITHIN APD. THAT WOULD BE NICE TO KEEP OUR YOUNGSTERS HERE TOO. THAT'S ONE THING I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT. HOW MANY -- NOW I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. TELL US ABOUT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROCESS. IF AN OFFICER WAS INVESTIGATED FOR USE OF FORCE, HOW MANY DIFFERENT DIVISIONS DOES A USE OF FORCE INVESTIGATION TAKE ON? AND HOW LONG DOES THE PROCESS USUALLY LAST? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TOSS THAT OFF TO THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION MILL. THAT IS THE CRUX OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS HERE FOR. WE DO COMPLETE INVESTIGATION INSTEAD OF JUST REVIEWS. ONCE THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE USE OF FORCE THEY CALL FOR A SUPERVISOR TO COME TO THE SCENE. THEY WILL GO AND REVIEW ON BODY RECORDING DEVICE AND TALK TO THE OFFICERS AND DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL USE OF FORCE WAS USED WHETHER ONE, TWO, OR THREE. LEVEL ONE IS THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF FORCE. THAT IS NOT EXPECTED TO CAUSE ANY INJURIES. TRANSITORY PAIN ONLY. AND IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING LIKE HANDCUFFING. LEVEL TWO IS ANY FORCE LIKELY TO CAUSE INJURY. OR INTERMEDIATE WEAPONS. 40 MILLIMETER, BEAN BAG OR ECW. LEVEL THREE IS SERIOUS INJURY OR LEVEL TWO THAT OCCURRED WHEN THE SUBJECT WAS HANDCUFFED. ONCE THE SUPERVISOR CLASSIFIES IT, IF IT'S A LEVEL ONE THAT SUPERVISOR TAKES OVER THE INVESTIGATION. IF IT'S A TWO OR THREE THEN WE CALL AN ON-CALL INTERNAL AFFAIRS DETECTIVE TO RESPOND TO THE SCENE. THAT DETECTIVE WILL INTERVIEW THE SUBJECT OF THE USE OF FORCE. IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TALK TO THEM TO GET THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY AND FIND OUT EXACT LEUP WITH. THEY REVIEW OBRD AND TALK TO ANY OTHER WITNESSES ON-THE-SCENE. THE CRUX OF THE INVESTIGATION IS DONE LATER. THEY WILL SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS WITH THE OFFICERS FOR A LATER DATE. THEY ALSO REVIEW ALL OBRD OF OFFICERS ON SCENE. WHETHER THEY WERE WITNESS OFFICER OR INVOLVED OFFICER. REVIEW ALL OF THE REPORTS AND ANY OTHER EVIDENCE. AT THE CONCLUSION OF ALL OF THE INTERVIEWS THEY TYPE UP AN EXTENSIVE REPORT AND THAT GOES TO A SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW. ONCE THAT IS REVIEWED IT GOES TO A COMMAND LEVEL SUPERVISOR FOR AN ADDITIONAL REVIEW. ONCE THAT'S DONE IT'S DETERMINED TO BE IN OR OUT OF POLICY. THAT'S THE USE FORCE PART OFT OF THE DELIBERATION. I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT OFFICERS BEING DISCIPLINED. THROUGHOUT THAT INVESTIGATION IF THEY FIND ANY POTENTIAL POLICY VIOLATIONS THEY SUBMIT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION. OUT OF 484 USES OF FORCE THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS FORCE DID INVESTIGATE IN 2022, THERE WERE 86 THAT RESULTED IN SOME SORT OF MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATION. OF O THE SUSTAINED VIOLATIONS CAN RANGE FROM SOMETHING MINOR FROM AN ON BODY RECORDING DEVICE TO CONDUCT AND UP TO OUT OF POLICY USE OF FORCE. THEY RUN THE GAMUT OF WHAT CAN OCCUR IN THE USE OF FORCE CASES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE. ANYTHING ELSE? >> YOU ASKED ALSO, SORRY, HOW LONG THE PROCESS TAKES. CURRENTLY WE'RE AVERAGING 54 DAYS FOR THE FIRST INVESTIGATION. ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS FOR THE FIRST LINE REVIEW. AND THREE TO FOUR DAYS FOR THE REVIEW. THOSE TIMELINES WERE SET FORTH. WE'VE BEEN BRINGING THOSE TIMELINES DOWN. WE HAVE 90 DAYS. AVERAGE IS JUST BELOW 80 DAYS FOR AN INVESTIGATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION IS ALONG THE SAME LINES. YOU ANSWERED 54 DAYS PLUS THREE. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW MUCH TIME THE OFFICER IS OUT OF FIELD SERVICES DUTY WHEN HE HAS A LEVEL TWO OR A THREE. AND HOW LONG IS THE SUPERVISOR NOT ABLE TO DO HIS JOB WHILE WE'RE INVESTIGATING THESE CALLS? IT SEEMS TO ME THE OFFICERS HAVE A LARGE RESPONSIBILITY OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF ANSWERING CALLS FOR SERVICE WHEN THEY'RE INVOLVED IN A USE OF FORCE. HOW LONG ARE THEY TAKEN OFF THE STREETS? BOTH THE SUPERVISOR INVESTIGATING AND ALSO THE OFFICER THAT'S INVOLVED. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THE OFFICERS RELEASED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT NOW THE LEVEL TWO OR THREE MOST OFFICERS ARE RELEASED BACK TO FULL DUTIES WITHIN AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS AT THE MOST. ON A TWO OR THREE THE SUPERVISOR IS RELEASED ONCE THE DETECTIVE IS ON-THE-SCENE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE OFFICERS CAN GET BACK INTO SERVICE WITHIN TWO HOURS? >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND HOW ABOUT THE SUPERVISOR? >> USUALLY WITHIN AN HOUR. ONCE THE DETECTIVE SHOWS UP ON SCENE THEY CAN GO BACK INTO SERVICE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND ONE MORE QUESTION, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. BASED ON THE FACT YOU HAVE THIS GOING ON WITH THE INVESTIGATION, HOW LONG DOES AN OFFICER HAVE TO WAIT THAT'S BEING INVESTIGATED FOR USE OF FORCE? YOU SAID 54 DAYS AND THREE FOR THE OTHER INVESTIGATION. YOU'RE TELLING ME IF THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE OFFICER IS BASICALLY DOING HIS JOB IN LIMBO FOR 57 DAYS BEFORE HE GETS WORD WHETHER HE DID IT RIGHT OR DIDN'T? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ YES SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY DO NOT GET THE NOTICE OF IN OR OUT OF POLICY. PROBABLY CLOSER TO 80 DAYS. THEY'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME THROUGH. IT TAKES ABOUT 80 DAYS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IMAGINE THIS, BEING A POLICE OFFICER AND WORKING OUT THERE AND HAVING TO RESPOND TO A CALL THAT'S GOING TO END UP IN A TWO OR THREE INCIDENT USE OF FORCE AND YOU KNOW THAT THE ALERT TONE GOES OFF. AS AN OFFICER. AND NOW THAT OFFICER HAS TO WAIT 0 DAYS UNDER STRESSFUL CONDITIONS TO SEE WHETHER HE WAS COMMROINT -- COMPLAINT OR NON-COMPLIANT. THAT'S AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE OFFICERS TO WAIT AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT NOT KNOWING THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE 86 RESULTS OF MISCONDUCT. THAT REALLY PUTS THE OFFICER IN A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO RESOLVE THAT TIME LIMIT SO THE OFFICER CAN KNOW? LITERALLY, YOU CAN HAVE A MISCONDUCT AND YOU CAN BE 88 DAYS OUT THERE TRYING TO DO YOUR JOB AS A POLICE OFFICER BUT YOU STILL HAVE SOMETHING HANGING OVER YOUR BACK. AND THEN YOU GET ANOTHER CALL LIKE THAT AND THE SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPENS WITHIN THAT 88 DAYS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HANDLED TWO OR THREE HUNDRED CALLS IN BETWEEN THAT. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT LESS CUMBERSOME, LESS DIFFICULT FOR THE OFFICER TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING HIS WAY IN REFERENCE TO DEALING WITH USE OF FORCE SITUATIONS. BECAUSE BACK IN MY DAY IT WAS A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED SO THE OFFICER KNEW HE DID IT RIGHT OR HE DID IT WRONG SO HE CAN ACTUALLY NOT HAVE TO GO INTO HIS JOB WITH ALREADY AN ADDED STRESS LEVEL. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REMOVE THAT LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN OF THE TWO TO THREE HOURS HE HAS TO SUT THERE AND DEAL WITH THE INVESTIGATION AND ALSO THE 88 DAYS THAT HE HAS TO SIT HERE AND WAIT TO SEE WHETHER HE DID THE JOB RIGHT OR WRONG? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, PRIOR TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WE DID NOT DO USE OF FORCE INVESTIGATIONS. WE DID DATA REVIEW. THAT WAS ABOUT IT. I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO COME HERE ESPECIALLY FOR OUT OF POLICY USES OF FORCE TO DO COMPLETE INVESTIGATIONS. TO DO COMPLETE INVESTIGATIONS, IT HAS TAKEN US 80 DAYS. I WILL SAY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS CONTINUED TO GIVE ME RESOURCES THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO HELP US LOWER THAT TIMELINE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. IN THE LAST YEAR WE'VE GONE FROM CLOSE TO 90 DAYS TO 80 DAYS. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, TEN DAYS IS A LOT. OUT OF THE 484 INVESTIGATIONS THEY COMPLETED ONLY 26 WERE FOUND OUT OF POLICY. THAT'S A 5% RATE. OUR OFFICERS ARE USING FORCE CORRECTLY. THEY ARE USING IT WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND USING THE AMOUNT OF FORCE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO COMPLETE INVESTIGATIONS AND NOT SACRIFICE THE QUALITY INVESTIGATION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE OFFICERS AND THAT LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF ADJUSTMENT EITHER IN PAY OR HOW THEY DO THIS. HOW THEY CARRY ON EACH DAY BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT IS A LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN. LARGER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN. IN ORDER TO ATTRACT ANY OFFICERS TO STAY IN THE DEPARTMENT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE OFFICERS ARE IN LIMBO. THAT DIRECTLY REFLECTS ON WHETHER THE OFFICERS WANT TO WORK WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE TIME AND INVESTIGATIONS. I GET THAT. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS SO WE CAN GET THE OFFICERS BACK OUT ON THE FIELD. NOT ONLY BACK OUT ON THE FIELD, BUT MAKE SURE OFFICERS, THEY'LL HEAR WORD OF MOUTH LET'S NOT GO TO APD BECAUSE IT'S GOT TAKE 80 DAYS TO FIND OUT WHETHER I DID IT WRONG OR DIDN'T. IF YOU HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OUT OF 584 THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO STREAMLEN THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT EASIER WHICH WILL HELP RETAIN OFFICERS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THANK YOU. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR TRANSIT. AND THEN I'LL BE DONE. WHO IS PROVIDING SECURITY ON THE BUSES? METRO SECURITY OR SEPARATE FORCE? >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR CAN TALK ABOUT METRO AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IN ADDITION TO METRO SECURITY WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH TWO PRIVATE SECURITY FIRMS. ONE OF THEM IS ADC AND THE OTHER IS -- ADC IS PROVIDING ABOUT SEVEN GUARDS ON A REGULAR BASIS. THEY'RE PATROLLING THE ART CORRIDOR. FROM 2 TO 11 P.M. AND WE HAVE 20 GUARD WORLD GUARDS THAT ARE MONITORING AN ADDITIONAL 8 ROUTES. AND THERE'S ONE TRANSIT FACILITY WHICH IS THE UPTOWN TRANSIT CENTER. >>COUN. GROUT: ARE THEY GOING UP AND DOWN ON THE BUSES? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, YES. THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ON THE BUSES OUTSIDE OF THE CENTER THEY'RE PATROLLING. THEY'RE REVEL ONE SECURITY GUARDS WHICH I BELIEVE MR. ROGERS WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT WOULD BE MY NEXT QUESTION. IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, AND LEVEL THREE SECURITY MEANS. ON THE BUSES. >> GOOD EVENING. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE STATE DEFINES BY STATUTE LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, AND LEVEL THREE. LEVEL ONE IS DEFINED IT IS THE LOWEST LEVEL AND THEY DON'T CARRY ANY TOOLS. THE WAY THE STATE STATUTE REFERS TO IT IS THEY DON'T CARRY ARMS. LEVEL TWO THE GUARDS ARE ARMED BUT NOT WITH FIREARMS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TASER, CHEMICAL SPRAY, BATON. AND WE'RE TALKING STATE STATUTE. LEVEL THREE ARE ARMED WITH FIREARM. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. HAVE WE TALKED TO THE BUS DRIVERS THAT WE HAVE? HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT BECOMING PEACE OFFICERS. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM AT ALL? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU SAID BUS DRIVERS? DID YOU MEAN SECURITY OFFICERS? >>COUN. GROUT: OR EVEN BUS DRIVERS. >> WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE BUS DRIVERS. THE SECURITY OFFICERS WE HEARD FROM -- REGARDING EXPANDED DUTIES. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD? >> ANY EXPANDED DUTIES NEED TO BE CORRELATED TO EXPANDED PAY. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I MIGHT ALSO ADD I RECEIVED ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE LEVEL THAT MET ROSECURITY THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH LEVEL. OUR OFFICERS HAVE CHEMICAL SPRAY AND BATONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS ONE MORE QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO JUMP ON THIS POINT. I'M HAVING HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY -- WHEN WE HAVE PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICERS ON THE BUSES WHAT'S THE AUTHORITY THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE OUR CITY TRANSPORTATION RULES FOR THE BUS? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY WITNESS A VIOLATION? WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO? >> OUR EXPERIENCE IS THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO TAKE INITIAL ACTION AND REQUEST FOLKS COMPLY. IF IT'S A CONDITION THAT DEMANDS THEIR REMOVAL FROM THE AREA, BE IT A FACILITY, A STOP OR BUS, THEY'RE THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT. IF INDEED IT IS THEM THAT HAVE THE POINT OF CONTACT. IF THEY HAVE THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT AND ENCOUNTER RESISTANCE THEY CALL OUR FOLKS. IT IS A LOT OF INSTANCES THAT OUR FOLKS ARE THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT. REGARDLESS OF THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT UP UNTIL THAT POINT IF THE RESISTANCE CONTINUES WE HAVE TO FALL BACK TO THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I APPRECIATE THAT. OR DIRECTOR. AT WHAT POINT -- BASICALLY THEY ASKED POLITELY FOR SOMEONE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. IF THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO ISSUE A CITATION, OR ANYTHING THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLICE OFFICER TO ENFORCE THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, YES. THEY HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S WELL-KNOWN OUR SECURITY STAFF CAN'T DO VERY MUCH. THEY ASK YOU NICELY AND YOU SAY GO AWAY NOT NICELY. AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO. THE CITY STATUTE DOES GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION THE AUTHORITY TO EMPOWER SECURITY OFFICERS TO ENFORCE REGULATIONS. WHY IS THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT NOT ALLOWED TO ENFORCE RULES? AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE METRO SECURITY WHICH INCLUDES COVERING TRANSIT AND WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, ALL OF THE SECURITY FUNCTIONS CONSOLIDATED, NO DISRESPECT TO THE TEENAGE VOLUNTEER LIFEGUARDS, BUT IF THEY HAVE AS MUCH AUTHORITY IN THE FACILITY TO TELL SOMEONE IN THEIR FACILITY, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY GOOD ESCALATION STRATEGY. WITS THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR THOUGHT GIVING THEM THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THE RULES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THAT IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GOING TO STOP YOU THERE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. THIS COUNCIL GAVE THE AUTHORITY TWO BUDGETS AGO WHEN WE CONSOLIDATED SECURITY. THE PURPOSE WAS TO HAVE SECURITY OFFICERS LEAVE CITY FACILITIES GET INTO THE COMMUNITY, HELP APD WITH LOW LEVEL VIOLATIONS TO ENFORCE THE RULES. WHAT VALUE, YOU'RE A SECURITY EXPERT, I'M A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, WE HAVE LOTS OF OFFICERS, WHAT VALUE IS THERE TO HAVE FIRST RESPONDER THAT HAS NO ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TAKE NOTES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, YOU'RE CORRECT IN YOUR SUMMATION. IN MOST CASES THE LIMITED AUTHORITY THEY HAVE TO REPRESENT THE CITY IS EFFECTIVE. IN MOST CASES. I MAY ALSO ADD THAT IF THERE IS SOME IMMEDIATE DANGER TO SOMEBODY'S LIFE OR SERIOUS INJURY, OUR OFFICERS DO ACT AND CAN PLACE THOSE FOLKS IN RESTRAINTS. AGAIN SUMMONING APD. THERE'S A NUMBER OF LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN IF WE LOOK AT ANY EXPANDED AUTHORITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I UNDERSTAND. I HOPE YOU'LL BE HERE LATER FOR THE DISCUSSION. I THINK YOU WILL. WE'LL PICK THIS UP. WE HAVE SOME OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE OUR BREAK. IT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. CAN DID HEAR YOU I DID HEAR YOU SAY EXPANDED RESPONSIBILITY COMES WITH EXPANDED PAY. THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T OPPOSE PAYING SECURITY OFFICERS FOR HAVING EXTRA TRAINING TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES WHEN THEY'RE IN THE WILD OF THE CITY NOT IN THE CONFINES OF OUR BUILDING. THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU SAID. >> IF I MAY. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE DON'T WANT TO DO UNION NEGOTIATIONS. >> I UNDERSTAND. I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE TRANSIT DISCUSSIONS I THINK WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DEBATE ON THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PART OF THE REASON FOR HAVING PRIVATE SECURITY IS THE CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD HIRING OFFICERS. YOU ALL KNOW THAT. AND I KNOW YOU PARTICULARLY KNOW ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHETHER IT'S SECURITY GUARD OR SOMEONE ISSUING CITATIONS TRIGGERS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESS WHICH IS A COURT PROCESS WHICH REQUIRES TIME FOR THEM TO GO TO COURT AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT SYSTEM. WE ARE AWARE OF THE INTEREST OF THE COUNCIL TO GIVE THEM THAT AUTHORITY. AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO VISIT ONTO THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'VE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO POSITION MET RO -- SO WHEN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE THEY CAN RECEIVE IT. MY LAST KWEGZ -- WHEN OUR PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICERS ENGAGE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH A VIOLATION ARE THEY DOING REPORTS? HOW ARE WE CAPTURING THE DATA? WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR GIVING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ARE COMPLETING REPORTS AND WE KEEP TABS WITH THEM. OUR OWN PROCESS IS LESS THAN PERFECT AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER, WE HAVE LAID THE FOUNDATION MOVING INTO THE FUTURE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ESTABLISHING A COMMUNICATION CENTER, AS WELL AS GOING TO A COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT HAS NEVER EXISTED. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR LOOKING MORE DOWN THE ROAD ON DEADLINES AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE STTAL -- STATISTICAL DATA BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR ELEMENTS COMING TOGETHER SOON. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T APPRECIATE -- I'M NOT BEING NEGATIVE. I AMMING WANT IT TO I WANT IT TO WORK WELL. IT'S THE HARDEST JOB IN THE WORLD TO BE A SECURITY OFFICER. YOU LIVE BETWEEN BEING POLICE AND NOT. YOU NEED SKILLS TO NAVIGATE YOUR WAY THROUGH THE DAY. OUR SECURITY OFFICERS DO A FABULOUS JOB. WE SEE THEM DO THAT HERE EVERY DAY. AND MORE ON THE FIELD. I'M CONCERNED AS WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TAKE ON MORE WE OUGHT TO BE SURE TO RESOURCE THEM APPROPRIATELY. I THINK THAT INCLUDES ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY IN LINE WITH OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ET CETERA. AND PROBABLY NEED TO RETOOL THAT. I THINK THE BUDGET GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THAT NECESSITY ON PART OF OUR SECURITY OFFICERS, THEY BECOME VERY PROFICIENT IN TALKING TO FOLKS. AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT IT. AND IN A LOT OF CASES THEY KNOW PEOPLE BY FIRST NAME. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I THOUGHT SOMEONE ELSE WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. WE ALL SAW THE NEWS STORY REGARDING APD AND THE PIO AND LITTER. AND WE JUST HEARD -- THANK YOU -- IT'S ABOUT APD. WE ALL SAW THAT -- I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW IT. WE JUST HEARD FROM APD THAT WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO DO FULL INVESTIGATIONS. I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY RESPECT THAT APD WANTS TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT WHERE THEY FEEL THAT IT'S WARRANTED AND DEFEND, I KNOW THE CHIEF WANTS TO DEFEND THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT'S ONE PART OF IT. BUT WHERE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE -- HAVE THIS PROPER SENSE OF DECORUM AND PROFESSIONALISM? I DON'T GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I DON'T WATCH IT. BUT I DID SEE ON THE NEWS STORY IS DEMEANING TO THE PUBLIC. WHETHER OR NOT THAT MIGHT BE THE WAY THE CIO OR CERTAIN PEOPLE IN APD FEEL. I THINK IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION TO THE CITY TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS ACTUALLY THE ONES WE'RE ALL HERE TO SERVE. I'M WONDERING, I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THE MAYOR SAID AND HIS RESPONSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- HE'S GOING TO SUPPORT APD AND PIO. AND THE CHIEF. AND WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO. I THINK IT'S REALLY INAPPROPRIATE. I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS GOING TO BE TOLERATED AND CONTINUE. I CERTAINLY THINK IT'S REALLY SAD WHERE IT'S COMING ON ESSENTIAL MEDIA. IT'S BRINGING NEGATIVITY ON A BAYINGER -- BIGGER WAY. IS THIS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE IN SUCH A FASHION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FIRST LET ME SAY IT IS ABOUT REALLY WORKING TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE DEPARTMENT KIRK -- WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE CITY. APD AS A DEPARTMENT AS YOU ALL KNOW FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS IS ALWAYS ON THE FOREFRONT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH LOTS OF FOLKS. AND LOTS OF FOLKS PUSHING HARD ON THE WORK THEY'RE DOING EVERY DAY. I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT FROM TIME TO TIME OUR FOLKS IN OUR DEPARTMENT MAY TAKE THIS FURTHER THAN MIGHT BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME. SO, WE HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I WILL SAY THIS, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AND ENSURING THAT WE APPROPRIATELY RESPOND IN MANNER THAT IS PROFESSIONAL AND THAT IS TO THE POINT AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. ALSO ENSURING THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS INTO A PERSONAL DISCUSSION THAT MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. YOU ALL CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AND THE CRITICISM CAN BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. I GET THOSE MYSELF. I BITE MY TONGUE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. I HAVE A LITTLE FOLLOW UP. MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN RELATE. I GET PLENTY OF EMAILS THAT I HAVE SPECIFIC THOUGHTS ABOUT. I'VE NEVER AIRED THEM IN MY REPLY. TO ME, TO SEE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON TWITTER AS AN ACTUAL CITY ENTITY. IT'S REALLY MIND-BLOWING. I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING, PLEASE. I AM NOT A FAN OF MORE PIO. I THINK WE HAVE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT IN THE CITY. PERHAPS IT MIGHT BE TIME TO ADD ANOTHER ONE OR BACK UP TO ADD EXTRA OVERSIGHT SO IF SOMEBODY IS HAVING A BAD DAY THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YOU TAKE THIS AND RESPOND RATHER THAN TAKING IT AND RUNNING WITH IT. I'M CERTAINLY NOT VERY EXCITED AND PROUD TO SAY THAT IS THE RESPONSE OUR CITY DEPARTMENT GIVES TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY'RE VENTING THEIR WOES WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE DOES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THIS GOES ALONG THE SAME LINES, THE THING WE'RE TREADING ON, THE DANGEROUS AREA WE'RE TREADING IS THE FACT WHEN THESE SOCIAL MEDIA TWEETS COME OUT AND YOU TURNED THE VICTIM OF CRIME INTO THE BAD GUY, IT SETS A PRECEDENT AND REVERBERATES ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY. AND IT MAKES INDIVIDUALS FEEL LIKE IF I CALL THE POLICE AND I REPORT A CRIME, NOW I AM GOING TO GET SOME SORT OF BACKLASH FROM IT FROM THE CITY. YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I DON'T REPORT A CRIME. MAYBE I DON'T CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T RESPOND AND I GET UPSET AND I CARRY IT TO MY SOCIAL MEDIA, AND VENT THERE, NOW I'M GOING TO GET A BACKLASH FROM SOMEONE FROM THE KELLER ADMINISTRATION TELLING THAT VICTIM WHO IS A LEGITIMATE VICTIM THAT THEY'RE DOING THE WRONG THING. I WAS ACTUALLY TURNED INTO A BAD GUY WHEN I REPORTED PISTOL WHIPPING IN FRONT OF MY OFFICE. I WAS TOLD THAT I MADE TOO MANY 911 CALLS. IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE SAME THING, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PREVENT THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM REPORTING SERIOUS CRIME THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THE KELLER ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO DO. BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THAT OR DIDN'T CHANGE THE PIO, AND CONTINUE TO LET THIS HAPPEN, YOU ARE SETTING A SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT GOING TO REPORT CRIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE BAD GUY FOR REPORTING THAT CRIME. IT'S ABSOLUTELY WRONG FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THAT HAS NEVER HAND IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE 26 YEARS OF MY SERVICE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. NEVER HAVE I SEEN ANYBODY MAKE A NEGATIVE TWEET BACK TOWARDER A VICTIM OF CRIME WHO IS JUST -- THEY DON'T KNOW OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THEY'RE VENTING BECAUSE THEY ARE A SERIOUS VICTIM OF CRIME. THEY'RE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE -- THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE IT HURT THEM. IT HURT THEM MONETARILY. IT HURT THEM AS VICTIMS. IT'S HURT THEIR FAMILY. IT'S HURT SOMEBODY AND THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICE THEY PAY FOR. I KNOW THE OFFICERS ARE SHORT-HANDED. I SUPPORT THE OFFICERS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET EVERYTHING THEY NEED. BUT IT ALSO SETS A BAD PRECEDENT WHEN AN OFFICER, WHAT ARE THE OFFICERS GOING TO DO? WE'RE GOING TO EMULATE THAT ON THE STREET. WHAT IF AN OFFICER DOES EXACTLY WHAT A PIO DID TO A LEGITIMATE VICTIM OF CRIME. I HOPE YOU LOOK AT IT IN THE CAMERAS, BUT THE THINGS IS WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. OFFICERS ARE SWORN TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE PUBLIC. I NEVER HAVE SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN MY WHOLE CAREER AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. WE ALWAYS LISTENED TO THE VICTIM AND TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE COULD IN OUR POWER TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. THAT'S WHAT THE KELLER ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO DO FOR OUR CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND ALSO, MAKE SURE THE OFFICERS HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 18th JOURNAL. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. GROUT: ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. TO GET US STARTED I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC22347 IT'S A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY ASK REGENTS OF UNM. ON PAF -- BEHALF OF COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. WE NEED A SECOND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC235 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S AUTHORIZATION OF SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH YDI TO PROVIDE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION SERVICES TO ADULTS ENGAGING IN GUN VIOLENCE. BEFORE WE DO THIS, DO I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION ON CONSENT IS GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN? OR IS IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? >> THIS WAS THE REPLACEMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. THAT WAS BETTER FOR ME. SORRY I WAS LATE. I NEED A SECOND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING OC29 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF MS. McDERMT AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE CPOA. IS THERE A SECOND? MULTIPLE SECONDS. CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE RULES SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R99, THE AMENDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AVIATION DEPARTMENT BY TRANSING FOR FUNDS AND ACCEPTING FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R104 OPTONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE COVID-19 VACCINE UP TAKE INITIATIVE WITH THE NATIONAL COUNSEL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024. >>COUN. JONES: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: NEXT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PULL OC2023. AND PLACE IT ON THE FEBRUARY 22nd FOR ACTION. IT'S THE 2022 FIRST HALF CPOA SEMI ANNUAL REPORT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE FOR FOLKS FOLLOWING ALONG. WE HAVE A RULE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ROLL OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE INTO FGO COMMITTEE. SINCE THAT NOT POPULATED WE WANT TO KEEP THEM MOVING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO PULL O-57 OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND PLACE ON THE FEBRUARY 22nd COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S THE ADDING NEW SECTION TO CHAPTER 12 ARTICLE TWO WRONGFUL USE OF BUS STOPS ORDINANCE PROHIBIT THE MISUSE OF CITY BUS STOPS AND SHELTERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEVERAL SECONDS. MADAM CLERK. I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE STILL HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? >>COUN. DAVIS: AT THE MOMENT, WE HAVE NOT. IF THE RULE AMENDMENT PASSES IT WILL ROLL INTO FGO. WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET THEM IN ACTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: CAN WE DO A SHOW OF HANDS? I KNOW WE CAN SEE COUNCILOR BENTON ON THE SCREEN? IS THERE SOMETHING PROCEDURALLY WE CAN DO? RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE ROLL CALL? >>COUN. DAVIS: UNFORTUNATELY DURING COVID THE ATTORNEY GENERAL PUT NOTICES WHEN A MEMBER IS NOT PRESENT PHYSICALLY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOICE VOTE FOR EACH MEMBER. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE PUT THAT IN RULES? >>COUN. DAVIS: WHEN THEY'RE IN REMOTELY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE RULES. IT XZ FROM -- COMES FROM THE STATE AND THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANKS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M WITH YOU. I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MAKE A MOTION TO PULL R-75 OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND PLACE IT ON FEBRUARY 22nd COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. R-75 IS ESTABLISHING A TIP LINE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR REPORTING OF ILLEGALLY USED OR POSSESSED FIREARMS. ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2023 APPROPRIATIONS TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE LAST ONE? >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING O-71 AND REFERRING TO FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS. IT'S AMENDING CHAPTER SEVEN ARTICLE TWO OF TRANSIT ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH PERMANENT ZERO FARE ON ALBUQUERQUE RAPID TRANSIT AND SUN VAN SERVICE THROUGH THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT QUALIFICATION PROCESS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. FOLKS, JUST TO EXPLAIN IT, THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT FOR COVERING THE FIRST PART OF OUR MEETING. HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO. WE HAVE LENGTHY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT LIST AND ACTION ITEMS. I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THROUGH REPORTS OF COMMITTEE AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CONSENT AGENDA SO STAFF FOR THE CITY FOR CONSENT ITEMS CAN GO AND DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR BREAK. AND WE'LL COME BACK AND DO PUBLIC COMMENT AND GET INTO ACTION ITEMS. FOR THOSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK THAT YOU COME BACK AFTER THE BREAK AND WE'LL HAVE STAFF GET OUT OF HERE IF THEIR CONSENT ITEM IS NOT REMOVED. THAT IS NOT YOU, MR. RAEL. FOR REMOTE COLLEAGUES AND THOSE WAITING AROUND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO WE CAN INKNACK -- BACK REFRESHED. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY JANUARY 23rd, AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING. IN THE MATTER OF EC-214 AND EC216 RECEIPT BE NOTED. IN THE MATTER OF 0-38 BE WITHDRAWN BY SPONSOR. IN THE MATTER OF0-61 AND R-91 THAT THEY BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED. O-62 IT DUE PASS AS SUBSTITUTED IN THE MATTER OF O-66 THAT IT DUE PASS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. SDMRD MOTION AND . >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECONDS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CONSENT JEAN. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? FOR THOSE ON THE AGENDA APPOINTED TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. AND COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION WE'LL MOVE TO REGULAR BREAK. WE'LL KEEP IT ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND COME BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND REGULAR ACTION ITEMS. WE'LL SEE YOU IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? SEE, IT'S ON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU HEAR ME, RACHEL? [ . >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU'RE IN THAT CHAMBERS WE'LL ASK YOU TO TO TAKE YOUR SEAT OR TAKE YOUR CONVERSATION IN THE HALLWAY. WE'RE GOING TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT OR WATCHING REMOTELY. WE HAVE A FEW RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE COMMENTS IN VERN OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON WEBSITE FRIDAY. HERE ARE THE RULE. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS UP TO TWO MINUTES POOPRESENT. COMMENT COMMENTS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL. THERE'S A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, THE BELL WILL RING, AND THERE'S A TIMER ON ZOOM. SO, I WILL ASK FOR YOU TO CALL OUR NAMES. IF YOU'RE CALLED AND URUP NEXT, COME ON DAWN JUST LIKE PRICE IS RIGHT. GET IN THE BOX AND READY TO GO. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THANKS FOR THE PROCLAMATION FOR FEBRUARY 4th TRANSIT EQUITY DAY. TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS AND PARTNERS HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING SINCE THE NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION AND ROSA PARKS DAY OF BIRTH DAY. WE HAVE WORKED WITH COMMUNITIES TO LISTEN TO THEIR PROBLEM AND ROOT CAUSE AND SOLUTIONS TO TRANSIT EQUITY. I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL DOING THAT OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS AS WE CONSIDERED NEW ZERO FARES LEGISLATION. THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO O-22-47 ADDRESS THIS AND IN ADDITION TO THE PLAN TO MAKE SUN VAN AND ART FREE, BUT ALSO FOR DOING RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT ZERO FARES WORKS AND INVESTING IN TRANSIT SECURITY THAT ENGAGES MOST IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. I WANT TO ADD RECENTLY TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS PARTICIPATED IN A NATIONAL ADVOCACY MEETING IN WASHINGTON D.C. WHERE COMMUNITIES EXPRESSED JEALOUSY OF US BEING THE LARGEST CITY WITH FREE TRANSIT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD FOR GETTING TRANSIT ZERO FARES PASSED TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY BARUCH. >> THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. [ INAUDIBLE ]. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SPEAK PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. IF THEY KNOW HOW THEY CARE HOW OUR TAXPAYER MONEY BEING SUSPENDED BY POLITICIAN. IN THE 80s AND 90s EVERYONE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. COMING BACK MILLION AIR. WELL, WE HAVE MILLIONAIRE HERE. I'M LOOKING AT CITY COUNCIL. THEY ALLOCATED USED TO BE 1 MILLION A YEAR SPENDING MONEY. THEY SPEND IT THE WAY THEY WANTED. NOW, SO, DO WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY OR OVERSIGHT? NO. THEY SAY THAT'S LEGAL. NOW, LET ME GIVE YOU EXAMPLE. TRUDY JONES, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO A LOT OF MONEY FOR FARM. BENTON, RESTAURANT ON SECOND AND GOLD. RESTAURANT NOT EXISTED. COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR QUEER AND LESBIAN PARADE. IT'S ALSO MANAGED AND RAN BY QUEER AND LESBIAN. WHO IS THE BIGGEST DONOR? ALL PRIVATE. THEY DON'T GET ANY GOVERNMENT MONEY. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. YES, WE CAN DO SOMETHING IF PEOPLE GET INVOLVED. AND GO AFTER. THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. THANK YOU. >> BARUCH FOLLOWED BY YAZZIE. IAN FOLLOWED BY GREG. GREG FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, PRESIDENT, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND A [ INAUDIBLE ]. PUT EVERYTHING ON THE LINE TO REBUILD FROM COVID. I BORROWED A SIGNIFICANT MONEY FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION WITHOUT THAT I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TODAY. I HEAR THERE'S -- MY BUSINESS IS SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CONCERN IN THE CITY ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE FINGER IS POINTED AT MY INDUSTRY AS MAYBE AT FAULT FOR THAT. I CAN SAY MY SMALL BUSINESS, I TURNED MY VACATION RENTALES BACK INTO APARTMENTS THEY WOULDN'T BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THESE ARE HIGH-END RENTAL. I PUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS GETTING THEM READY. I HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES FROM CLEANERS AND CONTRACTORS THAT I PAY THEM ENOUGH MONEY TO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THAT. EVERYONE I WOULD PUT BACK ON WE LOSE TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AND MY WORKERS AND THEIR TIME AND EFFORT AND WHERE WE ARE POST-COVID REBUILD. LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING TO HURT THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN OUR CITY. LOOK AT THE CORPORATIONS OUT OF STATE THAT TAKE THE MONEY AND MOVE IT OUT OF STATE. ALL MY PROFITS STAY HERE. I HAVE A 7-YEAR-OLD A WIFE AND TEN WORKS THAT I CONSIDER FAMILY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> CARL FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, I AM -- MR. PRESIDENT, I AM CARL, I WORK IN THE VACATION RENTAL INDUSTRY. SHORT-TERM RENTALS MORE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST DO VACATIONS. IN THE MORNING I'M GOING TO BE SENDING OVER AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY TO EACH YOU THAT IS BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT OF NEW MEXICO'S TOURISM IMPACT STUDY FROM 2021 COMBINED WITH THE DATA FROM 2022 ON AB&A AND WHEEL HOUSE WHICH ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF DATA. THERE'S 2300 JOBS PROVIDED BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS. WE HOSTED 431,000 GUEST AMONG THE 2,000 HOMES OWNED BY INVESTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEY'RE NOT OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY. I LIKE TO STRESS THEY'RE PEOPLE WORKING HERE AND KEEPING THE MONEY HERE. WE HAD $40 MILLION IN DIRECT RESERVATIONS THAT WENT TO OUR OWNERS THAT THEY USED TO FURTHER OUR COMMUNITY. TOTAL OF THOSE 431,000 GUESTS THE AVERAGE OVERNIGHT SPEND WAS $361.61 PER PERSON. THAT BRIDGES -- BRINGS THE TOTAL IMPACT TO $216 MILLION. THAT REPRESENTS 10% OF THE$2 BILLION THAT VISIT ABQ, TONIA WAS DISCUSSING EARLIER. WE'RE 10% OF THE INDUSTRY. TOTAL TAXES FOR NEW MEXICO, BERNALILLO COUNTY, AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WAS OVER $14 MILLION. I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHO STAYS IN VACATION RENTALS. IT'S NOT TOURISM. THAT'S A SMALL PORTION. WE HAVE ACTORS, FACEBOOK, INTEL, CONTRACTORS, PEOPLE HERE FOR HEALTH CARE, I'M HOSTING TWO PEOPLE WITH CANCER. I CAN GO ON. THERE'S HUGE AMOUNTS. THANK YOU. >> JOSHUA, FOLLOWED BY TOMAIS. >> HELLO, FORMER CANDIDATE BERNALILLO COUNTY SHERIFF. AND CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW MEXICO. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RIO RANCHO TURF. YOU ASKED WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT, THAT'S YOURS. YOU PASSED IT. THAT'S MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUND. SAME OF RELEASING PARTY PATROL TO SHERIFF. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE. NINTH AMENDMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO INTERPRET THE CONSTITUTION AS YOU PLEASE. TENTH AMENDMENT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONLY HAS THOSE POWERS DELEGATED IN THE CONSTITUTION. NOTHING YOU'RE DOING INVOLVING THE CONSTITUTION. STATUTES AND CODES ARE ALL RIGHTS GUARANTEED. YOU'RE A COP, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS. THE MAYOR IS ACTING AS POLICE CHIEF BECAUSE THE PLEASE CHIEF HAS TO BE CONSTITUTIONALLY BONED TO HOLD THE POWERS OF POLICE CHIEF. THE MAYOR CANNOT ACT IN TWO POSITIONS. HE CANNOT ACT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. LICENSE PLATES, BEING LICENSED PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH MVD. THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT THE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO BE LICENSED INSURED AND PLATED. REGISTERED. SO LONG AS THEY'RE DOING NO COMMERCE ON THE ROAD. THE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO BE IMPEDED AND SHOULD NOT BE IMPEDED IN ANY WAY LIKE DWI STOPS. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE PEOPLE'S BILL OF RIGHTS. YOU CANNOT PASS LAWS OR ORDINANCES WHICH ARE NOT LAWS THAT IMPEDE THE PEOPLE'S BILL OF RIGHT OR VIOLATES THE PEOPLE'S BILL OF RIGHTS. WHEN YOU DO, YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME. YOU MUST KNOW THIS. WHO IS GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE? IT'S THE PEOPLE'S DUTY. IT'S OUR DUTY TO FORM CONSTITUTIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE DONE THAT. KNOW THAT. GOD BLESS. >> TOMAIS FOLLOWED BY DIEGO. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I'M VERY AWARE BEING INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T DO IS SPEAK UP. IT'S HARD BECAUSE I LOVE MY STATE. I LOVE WHERE WE'RE JUST SO BEAUTIFUL IN SO MANY WAYS. OUR PEOPLE OUR DIVERSITY. BUT IT IS HARD TO HEAR WHEN WE'RE VERY IGNORANT IN A LOT OF THINGS WE SPEAK ABOUT AND TRY TO IMPOSE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING UP HERE IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE PUBLIC SPEAKING IS NOT MY THING. I CARE ABOUT MY COMMUNITY. AND THE ONE THING I CAN DO IS IMPACT IN MY COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY IN MY BUSINESS IS SERVING OTHERS AND SAYING HOW CAN I BE THERE FOR YOU. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER OUR BELIEF, OUR OPINIONS, IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE IN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY AND SERVE. I'M HEARING AS JOSHA SAID THE THINGS WE CAN LEARN A LOT ABOUT. IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT'S CORRECTIVE CRITICISM. IT'S CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. IT'S HARD TO TAKE IN. I DEAL WITH IT ALL DAY LONG BECAUSE I'M IN THE SERVICE BUSINESS. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE STUDIED THIS. GOING BACK JEN RAYING -- GENERATIONS. TO NOT BE OFFENDED. BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN SHARE AND TEACH. THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'RE WANTING TO IMPOSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT. AND YOU'RE WANTING TO PUSH EVEN WITH PUBLIC TRANSIT OR SECURITY AND STUFF YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. MAYBE I'M JUST COMING UP HERE TO SAY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER IF WE WANT TO. THE DIVISIONS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER BECAUSE OF THE EGO AND OPINION. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I WANT TO SAY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT BUT TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION TO WORK MORE TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >> DIEGO FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCIL, I OWNED A JEWELRY MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR 30 YEARS. IT WAS IMPACTED BY COVID. WOMEN WEREN'T WEARING EAR RINGS AND JEWELRY AS MUCH. I LOST MY BUSINESS. I TOOK MY RESOURCES AND PUT THEM INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I PLAYED BY YOUR RULES. I WENT AND REGISTERED EVERYTHING. I TOOK A RISK TWO YEARS AGO AND SOLD THE FAMILY HOME TO BUY A HOME TWO DOORS DOWN THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS CAME TO VISIT BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR WOULD NOT FIX THEIR SEWER AND THE SEWAGE WAS RUNNING DOWN THE STREET SO MUCH THAT IT TURNED THE PAVEMENT GREEN. THE CITY SAT ON IT, DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE HOUSE THAT WERE RENTING IT, THE PEOPLE IN SALT LAKE SUTTEE WERE NOT INTERESTED IN HELPING THEM. THEY MOVED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S SEWAGE IN THE HOUSE. I SOLD MY FAMILY HOME AND TOOK A CHANCE IN BUYING THIS HOUSE THAT NOBODY WANTED. IT WAS ON THE MARKET NOBODY WANTED IT. I PUT A TON OF MONEY INTO IT. IT'S CLOSE TO BEING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND YOU'RE PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER ME AGAIN. THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT TO GET ME. WHEN I -- IN 1979 I WAS 19 YEARS OLD. MY PARENTS WERE LOUSY PARENTS. THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD CHILDREN. I, AT 19 YEARS OLD, WAS CORRALLED INTO BEING A DOOR TO DOOR SALESMAN. YOU TALK ABOUT NEVER HAVING A HOME, I NEVER GOT TO STAY IN HOTELS AS NICE AS MOTEL 6. I'M IN MY 60s, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME AND YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN. THANK YOU. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY KOI. KOI FOLLOWED BY PAUL. >> HELLO, EVERYBODY. I'M A REALTOR. SHORT-TERM RENTALES ARE AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES. ALSO I'M THE FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT. AND WHEN I ESCAPED A COMMUNIST COUNTRY I WAS TOLD THE SKY IS THE LIMIT. NOW I'M BEING OLD THE OPPORTUNITY IS BEING RIPPED AWAY FROM US. THE CITY BAN OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL BE A DETRIMENT TO THE CITY AND CITIZENS. IT'S CURIOUS WHY THE MAYOR IS LOOKING TO BLOCK FAMILIES PROVIDING FOR THEMSELVES. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY WE'RE PITTED AGAINST THE HOTEL INDUSTRY WHO HAS THE MOST TO GAIN. THE FAMILIES ARE RENTING OUT ROOMS SO THEY CAN AFFORD BASIC NEEDS DUE TO INFLATION AND NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK DURING THE PANDEMIC. WHY ARE WE ENTERTAINING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE OPPORTUNITIES OF FREE MARKET AND HARMING ECONOMIC GROWTH? PASSING THIS LEGISLATION WILL AFFECT THE HARDWORKING AMERICANS. HOW DOES THAT CREATE MORE UNEMPLOYMENT ALIGN WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING? IF THE MAYOR CARED ABOUT HOUSING BEING ACCESSIBLE HE WOULD NOT BE TARGETING SHORT-TERM RENTAL. HE WOULD EMPOIR HARDWORKING FAMILIES AND ENTERTAINING MOBILE HOME PARK. IN SUMMARY, STIFE STIFLING BUSINESSES IS NOT THE AMERICAN DREAM I WAS PROMISED. AND NOW WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO HELP NOT ENTERTAIN THE VIRTUE SAYING NOTHING AND HELP . >>COUN. LEWIS: I WANTED TO THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THANK YOU. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU. AND THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YOU. I THINK PEOPLE SOMETIMES FORGET THAT WE DEMONIZE SHORT-TERM HOUSING WHEN WE FORGET THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE INVESTMENTS AND PROPERTIES AND SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE DEEDED TO THEM BY A FAMILY MEMBER AND GRANDMOTHER AND GENERATIONS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LEFT THEMSELVES OUT OF POVERTY TO CREATE NEW INCOME. AND WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE HOPE THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS A PARTNER IN HELPING THE CITY PROSPER AND DO WELL. WE FORGET THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROVIDE VALUE TO THE CITY. I THINK YOU'RE SOMEONE WHO WOULD TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND PEOPLE COMING TO USE YOUR PLACE. I FOUND THAT PEOPLE MAKE EVEN MORE INVESTMENTS INTO THOSE PROPERTIES. THEY'RE EVEN MORE WELL-TAKEN CARE OF THAN A PLACE RENTED OUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK WE CAN GO ON ASK ON ABOUT ALL THE REASONS WHY THE LAST THING IN THE WORLD IS FOR THE CITY TO GET INTO THE WAY OF HELPING FAMILIES AND HARD-WORKING PEOPLE DO WELL AND PROSPER. I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR YOU AND CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE THIS BILL IS A GOOD IDEA AT ALL. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN HERE TONIGHT AND OTHERS COMING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HEAR ABOUT THESE THINGS ON THE NEWS. AND YOU'RE GOING WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON. YOU CAME DOWN TO SHARE A LOT OF COMMON SENSE AND GOOD THINGS. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF NEW MEXICANS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO ASK CARL -- I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDS ME THOSE STATISTICS? I HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THEM CORRECT. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU INPUT. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PETITION FOR EVERYONE TO SIGN AND MIGHT DO IT ONLINE. IT'S SOMETHING I THINK SEVERAL OF YOU WANT. AND I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF YOU, AT LEAST ONE. SOMETHING THAT SEVERAL OF YOU WANT. IF YOU GET THIS DOWN. I TALKED TO CITY CLERK ABOUT THIS. AS FAR AS GETTING PETITIONS SIGNED ONLINE, SHE WASN'T SURE AND SHE SAID IT'S UP TO YOU. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. [ INAUDIBLE ]. HOPEFULLY WILL PUT THEIR NAME ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND UPLOAD THEIR PHOTO. I THINK THAT BESIDES GETTING SIGNATURES YOU SET THE PRECEDENCE AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL ELECTION YOU COLLECTED PETITIONS ONLINE. SET THE PRECEDENT FOR ALLOWING THIS. I CAN PRINT THESE OUT. I UNDERSTAND THE CLERK SAID THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT SECURITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT, WE'LL LET THE CLERK SEE THE WEBSITE BEFORE IT'S LIVE. ALSO ONCE WE HAVE MORE DATA THE CLERK CAN CHECK AND MAKE SURE ALL THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP ARE REGISTERED VOTERS. PRINT THEM OUT IN ORDER BY ZIP CODE AND LAST TIME. ALSO, A PETITION SIGNED BY HAND WILL BE ADDED TO THE DATA BASE SO WE'LL STILL GET WRITTEN PETITIONS. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE OKAYED. TIME IS CRITICAL. I HOPE YOU OKAY THIS. I'LL BE THE FIRST GUINEA PIG. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU. I KNOW HE REACHED OUT TO COUNCILORS TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE PETITION RULES WE CHANGED LAST TIME AROUND ELECTIONS AND WHETHER THAT APPLIES TO OTHER ISSUES. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER HELP HIM NAVIGATE WITH THE CLERK FOR THE CURRENT RULE OF PUBLIC PETITIONS. I THINK FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. HE'S HAD TROUBLE GETTING THAT. COULD YOU HELP US WITH THAT? >> I ATTENDED A COURT HEARING. I HAD 60 DAYS. I WANT IT LIVE AND READY TO GO. >>COUN. DAVIS: I UNDERSTAND. WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO HAVE OUR STAFF THAT WORKED ON ELECTION LAWS ABOUT PETITIONS FOLLOW UP WITH YOU TO GET YOU AN ANSWER IN WRITING TO YOUR INQUIRY INSTEAD OF BOUNCING YOU BACK AND FORTH. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO TODAY. MR. MELENDREZ IS OUR DIRECTOR AND HE WILL HELP YOU. >> WE NOW SHIFT TO ZOOM. WE HAVE PEGGY FOLLOWED BY DEBRA. >> AND NONE OF THEM COMPLIED TOTALLY WITH THE IDO FOR VARIETY OF REASONS. EITHER FROM LACK OF NOTIFICATION, IMPAPER HEARING VENUE, NON-COMPLIANCE WITH DESIGN STANDARDS. QUESTIONABLE TRANSPORTATION GUIDELINES. NO DOCUMENTATION FROM THE DECISION MAKER. WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO GET TO LOOK AT AND LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THESE PROJECTS EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE'S NO FORUM TO FIX THESE. I'M CONCERNED THAT THE NEW ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS IS ONLY GOING TO EXACERBATE THIS SITUATION. DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE IN A MORE TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE MANNER NOT LESS MUTT AND PROVIDE DECISION-MAKING COMMUNICATION AND DOCUMENTATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IT IS DIFFICULT TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH THE IDO. BEING TOLD TO FILE AN IPR INCLUDING SITE PLANS DOES NOT INDICATE AN AURA OF OPENNESS. POST-SUBMITTED MEETINGS OR A PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT DO NOT INCLUDE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THERE NEEDS TO BE A FORUM FOR COMMUNICATION AND DISCUSSION OF INTERPRETATION FORMERLY FILLED BY THE DRB HEARING. THIS COULD BE DONE WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS BUT IT IS NOT CURRENTLY DESIGNED THIS WAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> DEBRA FOLLOWED BY JULIE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR DAVIS, CITY COUNCILLORS. AS YOU KNOW THE ANNUAL PROCESSES FOR UPDATING THE IDO HAS STARTED. SOME OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS SUCH AS INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF WALLS AND O-22-54 REGARDING CHANGES TO THE ZONE TO ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITERIZE CONTROVERSIAL. WITHIN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THIS AMENDMENTS SAY. THAT'S BECAUSE THE CITY NEVER HAS HAD, AT LEAST NOT IN THE LAST 30 YEARS ENOUGH STAFF TO ENFORCE CODES. THE CURRENT PRACTICE IS RELYING ON NEIGHBORS RATTING OUT NEIGHBORS BY CALLING 311 OR IN SOME CASES NEIGHBOR IGNORE THE VIOLATIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY FEEL INTIMIDATED. IN THE LATE 90s THE ZONING MANAGER ADVISED PEOPLE TO ALWAYS REPORT ANONYMOUSLY BECAUSE OFFENDERS WILL GET AGGRESSIVE. EITHER WAY, THIS CAUSES RESENTMENT AMONG NEIGHBORS AND LEADS TO DEGRADATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS. I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK TO INCREASE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF SO THEY CAN LOOK FOR ZONING VIOLATIONS PROACTIVELY. AND REACTIVELY RESPONDING TO 311 THEY CAN REACT IN A TIMELY MANNER INCLUDING EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS. THIS IS BECAUSE RESIDENTS OFTEN BUILD THEIR OWN WALLS, FENCES, SHEDS AND ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS AFTER HOURS. VIOLATION OF THINGS LIKE CARS PARKED IN FRONT YARDS ARE NOT EVIDENT WHEN PEOPLE ARE AT WORK AND DURING THE DAY. IN ADDITION TO NEEDING THE STAFF TO ENFORCE ZONING CODES IN NEIGHBORHOODS THE CITY MUST ALSO EDUCATE PEOPLE BY WAY OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND FINES. BY THE WAY AS IN OTHER CITIES FINES CAN BE USED TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF. I'M ASKING COUNCILORS TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR STAFFING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE IDO. THANK YOU. >> JULIE FOLLOWED BY PETER. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M COMMENTING ON HOUSING FORWARD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF OUTREACH BY THE ADMINISTRATION REGARDING MASSIVE ZONING CHANGES. I DON'T THINK THIS TYPE OF CHANGE BELONGS IN THE UPDATE OF THE IDO. BASED ON THE REPRESENTATION, THE PROPOSAL COMES WITH WORK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY, REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, AND PROFIT AND NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. THE ADMINISTRATION VISITED OTHER CITIES TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO EXPAND HOUSING. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY HIRED OUT OF STATE CONSULTANTS TO WORK ON THE PROPOSAL. TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR COALITION OR INDIVIDUALS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. THIS, IN SPITE OF THE CLAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNITION ORDINANCE PASSED LAST YEAR AND IN SEVERAL CASES REFERENCES THE IMPORTANCE OF NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT INCLUDING URBAN PLANNERS AND DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALS CAN SOMETIMES HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO THOSE HAVING LEGISLATIVE POWERS AND ADMINISTRATING THIS ORDINANCE IN THE CITY RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR CONSTRUCTIVE INTERFACE BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS TO ADDRESS MISTRUST AND OVERCOME KNOWLEDGE AND ACCESS AND EXPERIENCE BARRIERS THAT CAN QUIET VOICES IN ENGAING URBAN. OF THE DETAILS IN THE BILL AND CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT. PUBLIC MEETINGS I'M AWARE OF AND PARTICIPATED MOST MEETINGS ON THE MOTEL HOTEL CONVERSION. ONE PRE-EPC MEETING. TWO EPC MEETINGS. IF THERE IS A HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH IS DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. THE QUESTION IS WHY IS THERE NOT A COMPREHENSIVE OUTREACH TIME. SEPARATE O-22-54. >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. PETER FOLLOWED BY JESUS. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS, CITY COUNCILLORS, THANK YOU COUNCILOR GROUT FOR REQUESTING A CLOSER EXAMINATION OF THE BUDGET FOR THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB. A FACILITY TO HAVE CRUCIAL PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED IT NEEDS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. THIS IS ESPECIALLY CRUCIAL AS THE NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THE FACILITIES ARE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE EVEN WITH JUST THE BEGINNING OF SERVICES BEING OFFERED THE POLICE AND ACS DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF ADDRESSING ENCAMPMENTS THAT HAVE DRASTICICALLY INCREASED THIS PAST YEAR IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING BEHIND 7-11. AN EXAMPLE IS ADDRESSING PROPERTY DAMAGE AND TRESPASSING AND A BUSINESS -- THIS PAST SUMMER. A YOUNG FEMALE WAS SMASHING A WINDOW OF THE STORE. THE BUSINESS CAUGHT HER AND WAITED 90 MINUTE FOR THE POLICE TO ARRIVE. AFTER THREE CALLS THEY SHOWED UP. THE OFFICER ASKED FOR HER I.D., AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE ONE. SHE ASKED FOR HOME ADDRESS ASK REFUZZED TO GIVE IT. THEY TOLD THE OFFICER SHE HAD DRUGS AND NEEDLES WHEN SHE WAS ON THE FLOOR. THE OFFICER TOLD THEM THAT HER PURSE IS FOR PERSONAL USE AND THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEN THEY ASKED HER TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY AND SHE DID SO. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TIME? THERE WAS NO ARREST. THOUGH SHE BROKE THE WINDOW. WHAT'S A BUSINESS TO DO? MANY BUSINESSES DON'T BOTHER REPORTING BECAUSE IF THE POLICE SHOW UP, EVEN WITH VIOLENT CRIMES AND SHOOTINGS. I LIVED IN THIS AREA AND SEEN WILSON PARK STAY UNSAFE DESPITE THE REMODEL. WHAT SHOULD WE DO? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT, FOR LOOKING INTO THIS. AND THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL. >> JESUS FOLLOWED BY BRIAN. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY ZERO FARES HAS MADE A HUGE IMPACT NOT JUST ME BEING DISABLED BUT OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ALSO DISABLED. IT'S MADE IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR US TO GET AROUND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DEPEND ON PEOPLE. HOW I SEE IT IS THAT IT'S VERY USEFUL, IT HAS HELPED ME IN SO MANY WAYS. I THINK IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. BECAUSE IT CAN HELP OTHERS GET AROUND EASIER. IT JUST MAKES IT BETTER FOR US TO BECOME MORE INDEPENDENT. THANK YOU. >> BRIAN FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. CAN YOU ACCEPT MY PROMOTION TO PANELIST PLEASE? ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY RACHEL. >> THE HOST STILL HAS MY VIDEO BLOCKED. SO. IT WOULD BE NICE IF I CAN SMILE AT YOU FOLKS WHILE I TALK. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE NEED TO SEE ROSEMARY'S CONTACT. >> YOU WON'T SEE MY CAT, I'M NOT IN MY STUDY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M SORRY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE THREE COUNCILORS SAY WE WANTED TO SEE YOUR CAT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE WERE WAITING. >> THAT'S FINE. I'M SPEAKING ON O-22-47. SHE'S HER OWN BLOSSOM. LET ME GET SERIOUS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I RESIDE IN ALBUQUERQUE WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. I'LL HAVE MORE SPECIFIC COMMENT WHEN YOU CONSIDER AGENDA ITEM O-22-47. AS MY GENERAL COMMENT, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILORS -- HERE IS THE CAT. SHE HEARD ME TALKING. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILORS WHO CAME TOGETHER ACROSS MANY AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT TO DEVELOP THETHERED REVISED VERSION INVOLVING TRANSIT SECURITY AND EQUITABLE ACCESS. THIS REVISION GOES A LONG WAY TO RESPOND TO THE CONCERNS I RAISED BEFORE YOU THE LAST TIME THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS BEING CONSIDERED. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE PROCEDURES, STUDIES, ACCESS PROVISIONS INCLUDED IN THIS REVISED ORDINANCE WILL ADDRESS THE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSIT SECURITY AND AT THE SAME TIME RESULT IN STRATEGIES FOR MAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EFFICIENT AND RELIABLE FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY WHO WISH TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND SOME MAY NOT WISH TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION BUT COULD BE PERSUADED IF IT'S SAFE RELIABLE AND CONVENIENT. AS SOMEONE THAT WENT TO COLLEGE IN WASHINGTON D.C. IN THE 1960s AND RETURNED AS AN ADVOCATE IN THE 1980s AND OTHER REASONS IN THE 1900s I'VE SEN D.C. TRANSIT GROW IN SOPHISTICATION, ACCESSIBILITY AND GRACIOUSNESS. WITH EACH QUALITY REINFORCING THE OTHER. WHEN I RETURNED IN 19998 WITH MY LEG IN BRACES I WAS TOUCHED BY THE HELPFUL STAFF AND ENCOURAGING ME TO GET ON BOARD. THE SAME WELCOMING STAFF WERE ALSO BY THEIR VERY PRESENCE MAKING THE WHOLE SYSTEM MORE SAFE. I HOPE WE CAN DO THAT GRACIOUSLY HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND SO DOES MY CAT. >> RACHEL FOLLOWED BY BRIAN. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCIL, THE SOUTHEAST HEIGHTS ESPECIALLY WITHIN DISTRICT SIX HAS REACHED A POINT OF DESPERATION. IN THE WANING MONTHS OF THIS WINTER ENCAMPMENTS HAVE INVADED THE STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. THE NUMBER AND FREQUENCY APPEARS TO BE UNCHECKED UNMONITORED AND IGNORED BY THE CITY AND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. ENCAMPMENTS HAVE ACCUMULATED THROUGHOUT DISTRICT SIX BUT SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE QUARTER MILE PATROL ZONE SURROUNDING THE GATEWAY CENTER ON GIBSON BOULEVARD. TWUD AFTER WEEKS OF CALLS BY ME AND MY NEIGHBORS REPORTING ENCAMPMENT AND DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY LARGE CONVOYS OF WASTE REMOVAL AND CITY VEHICLES WERE SEEING CLEANING OUT TENTS, CARTS IN SOME OF THE TROUBLE SPOTS THIS MORNING. WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR RESPONSE BUT WE BRACE FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS INEVITABLE, IT WILL BE BACK IN A FEW DAYS. THE TWO AREAS ARE THE NOW FAMILY DOLLAR STORE AT GIBSON SOUTHEAST WHICH BEGAN FILLING IN WITH CAMPS AS SOON AS THE LAST DUMPSTER WAS HAULED AWAY. WILSON PARK AND POOL WHICH WAS RENOVATED ABOUT A YEAR AGO ARE NOW IN A CONSTANT CYCLE OF VUNNEDER TO OPEN DRUG USE, TRASH, VIOLENCE AND REFUSE AND THE ENSUING CLEARING OF THAT MESS AFTER WEEKS OF BEGGING SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING. THE CAMPS BUILD UP AT THE PARK AND POOLS AND SPILL IN CITY YARDS AND DRIVE WAYS OF ABANDONED HOMES. WE BRACE FOR THE SOUNDS OF GUN FIRE AND SIREN S AND GREETED WITH TRASH LITTERING OUR STREET AS WE TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL. THE GROWING ENCAMPMENT ON THE EMPTY LOT ON THE FORMER 7-11 WAS UNTOUCHED TODAY. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> BRIAN. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. BEAR WITH ME JUST A MINUTE. COUNCILORS, IF IT'S OKAY I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TAKE SOME OF THE SMALLER ITEMS OUT AND DO OUR TRANSIT BILL LAST. I KNOW WE HAVE STAFFERS HERE, BUT THAT WILL TAKE LONGER UNLESS THERE'S A GUEST THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK ON IT. WE'LL START -- WE DIDN'T DO ANNOUNCEMENTS. THEN WE'LL GO TO APPROVALS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 13th AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY THE 14th IS CANCELED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY JANUARY 15 AT 5 P.M. ON THE NINTH FLOOR THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. ALSO THERE'S AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS MEETING ON FRIDAY FEBRUARY 10 VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT. SEEING NONE. NOW WE'LL GO TO APPROVALS. IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF MS. McDERMT. I MOVE CONFIRMATION. LOTS OF SECONDS. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCILORS OR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO THANK HER FOR BEING WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE HER CONTINUED EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. LET ME ECHO HER INPUT IS PART OF THE PROCESS FROM INSUNDER OF -- WE HOPE SHE CAN HELP US MOVE THIS FORWARD. WE'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL, MOTION FOR CONFIRMATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND YOUR PATIENCE. AS I MENTIONED, UNLESS ANYBODY OBJECTS WE'LL TAKE O-47 LAST. WHICH MEANS WE'LL TAKE RA-2. SEEING NO OBJECTION I'LL MOVE A DUE PASS. WHICH AMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE RELATING TO COMMITTEES, REQUIRING PARTICIPATION, ORDER OF BUSINESS, AND THOSE VARIOUS THINGS LISTED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A SECOND. I BELIEVE WE HAVE AMENDMENTS? IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL LET THE CLERK PULL WHICHEVER ONE WE WANT FIRST. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK THIS IS SECOND IN THE PACKET BUT FIRST IN THE LIST. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. SPONSORED BY MYSELF. ON PAGE TWO LINE ONE, WE'LL AMEND AS FOLLOWS. POSTING OF THE AGENDA IS NO WILL BE REQUIRED OUTSIDE OF THE CHAMBERS IN THE BASEMENT LEVEL OF CITY NOT THE CITY-COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- KWOS. I'M SORRY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHICH ONE DO YOU HAVE NEXT? I THINK IT'S COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> I APOLOGIZE, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. WE'LL CALL THIS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ON PAGE SIX LINE SIX AMEND AS FOLLOWS, SECTION FOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS THE CITY SHALL CONSIDER BUSINESS IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. ROLL CALL MOMENT OF SILENCE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ADMINISTRATION Q&A, PROVAL OF THE JOURNAL, COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCTION, REPORTS OF COMMITTEES, CONSENT AGENDA, ANNOUNCEMENTS, FINANCIAL, THEN INSERT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND RENUMBER APPEALS, APPROVALS, FINAL ACTION AND OTHER BUSINESS WHILE REMOVING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE END. AND ON PAGE SIX LINE 27, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENTS ITEM 12 AND STRIKE 16 ABOVE THE SPECIAL MEETINGS, I SEE WE'RE CHANGING A FEW THINGS. AT THE SAME TIME I REALIZE PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ABOUT AT THE ACTUAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND I RESPECT THAT. I THINK MY PRIMARY DEDICATION IS TO REPRESENT AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK MAKING THEM WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CHANGE THAT AND PUT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE MEETING INSTEAD OF THE END. >>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. MAYBE SINCE THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE WAS MINE I'LL START, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE TO FOLLOW. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I AGREE WITH YOU. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION. THE CONCERN WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS MOVING IT TO THE END WAS UNFORTUNATELY, AND TONIGHT WILL BE QUITE A LONG EXAMPLE, BUT OFTEN YOUR BIGGEST ITEMS THAT DRAW PUBLIC ATTENTION AND DESERVE ATTENTION OFTEN END UP AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WHEN WE'RE TIRED AND DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS RULE CHANGE THAT WOULD MOVE GENERAL COMMENT TO THE BACK AND ITEMS NOT ON THE ACTION ITEM THAT DON'T RELATE TO THINGS WE HAVE TO GET DONE FOR THE CITY OR FOLKS SCHEDULED TO BE A PART OF WE WANT TO BE SURE PEOPLE THAT HAD KIDS TO PUT TO BED STILL HAD A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE EARLY. AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO BRING NEW IDEAS CAN DO THAT IN A TIMELY WAY. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXPERIMENT. WE'RE MUCH BUSIER COUNCIL THAN WE'VE BEEN JUST EIGHT YEARS AGO. WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT TODAY AND THE LAST FEW MEETINGS HAS EXERCISED MORE OVERSIGHT IN ADMINISTRATION Q&A AND GOING THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES. AND THE OTHER RULES THAT WOULD LIMIT THE BILLS GOING TO COMMITTEE AND BRING MORE TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION REQUIRE US TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION TIME. THAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION. I AGREE WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT. I WILL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. WE WANT TO GET THE BUSINESS DONE FIRST AND BRING NEW IDEAS TO SCHEDULE THEM BETTER DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ THEN COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS HAPPENING EARLIER. I JUST FEEL IT WE HAVE IT LATER SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE PURPOSELY PUTTING THEM TOWARD THE END. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY FEELS LIKE THEY'RE SILENCED. JUST MY COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LEWIS THEN COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS AND I ALWAYS FEEL BAD WHEN PEOPLE MAKE AN EFFORT TO COME DOWN HERE AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH -- THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE. THEY HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH A THREE OR FOUR HOUR MEETING AND THEY'RE OFTEN WAITING THROUGH PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE, QUESTIONS WE HAVE, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THAT TAKE SOMETIMES HOURS, AND ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS TO MEOVER THE LAST YEAR THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT THE REAL TIME-CONSUMING PART OF THE MEETINGS LATELY. I I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN IT WAS. I AGREE WITH THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT, PREDICTABLE, AND REALLY CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SPEAK AND KNOW THEY CAN COUNT ON THE FACT THEY CAN COME HERE AND THEY CAN SPEAK. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AGREE THAT I WANT PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE HEARD, BUT A PERFECT EXAMPLE IT IS HERE TONIGHT. IT IS 8:30 AND WE HAVE FOLKS HERE FOR ONE OF THE MAJOR BILLS DISCUSSING TONIGHT AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE 5:00 P.M. I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A VOICE FOR SPECIFIC BILLS WE'RE LITERALLY GOING TO VOTE ON TONIGHT. I AGREE THAT MOVING IT DOWN AND LETTING FOLKS HAVE A FOYS ON BILLS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACTED ON THIS EVENING IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO OTHER COMMENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE ON THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IN REGARD TO WHY I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE END IS BECAUSE THE VERY VALID POINT EXCEPT FOR MOST PEOPLE I THINK THAT DON'T REGULARLY SPEAK TO US DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN SIGN UP FOR A SPECIFIC BILL. I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE, IT SEEMS, WHEN THEY'RE NEW TO SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL CHOOSE TO SPEAK UP UNDER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR THAT REASON I WANT TO KEEP IT IN ADVANCE AND TRADITIONAL IN THAT MANNER. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. THAT MATTER CARRIES ON A 5-4 VOTE. WE'RE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I SEE. IS THAT RIGHT? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THERE WAS SOMETHING IN HERE I SAW LAST MINUTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NUMBER THREE. ARTICLE ONE, SECTION 12. >>COUN. DAVIS: COULD YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. IT'S NUMBER THREE. ARTICLE ONE, SECTION 12 DISTURBING MEETINGS. IT UPDATES TO ALLOW TO GIVE MORE WARNINGS AND ASK THEM TO LEAVE IF THEY'RE CAUSING A DISTURBANCE. I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINE HOW AND WHAT KIND OF DISTURBANCE. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I SEE TWO SIDES TO A DIFFERENT ITEM. IF LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I'M REALLY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO SOMETHING OR STRONGLY WANTING THAT TO PASS, THEN I GET IN A POSITION WHERE I SUPPORT THE PERSON THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UPSET. WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT AN ACTUAL DISTURBANCE WOULD BE. AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK THEIR MIND ON EITHER SIDE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT DOES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO REVISIT. PARTICULARLY AT THE BEGINNING OF A NEW COUNCIL YEAR. I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE'VE NEVER IN MY EXPERIENCE SILENCED ANYONE FOR THEIR CONTENT. WE'VE NEVER -- EVEN FOR THEIR LOUD VOLUME. BUT, THERE IS A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THERE'S CASE LAW OR PRECEDENT IN WHAT AND HOW WE'VE ENFORCED THESE RULES INCLUDING WE'VE ADJOURNED A MEETING AND HAD SECURITY INTERVENE. AND INCLUDING ISSUING SOME NOTICES TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTINUALLY DISRUPTED BY INTERFERING WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE. BLOCKING THEIR VIEW. FAILING TO YIELD THE FLOOR WHEN OTHERS ARE WAITING. I MIGHT ASK MR. MELENDREZ WHO HAS BEEN HERE LONGER AND PARTICIPATED IN THOSE. WE HAVE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT HASN'T THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON IN THIS CASE IF WE TRY TO PREVAIL IN A LEGAL CHANGE. THAT IS RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S CASE LAW THERE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS ISSUE COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL DID GO THROUGH A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RULES AMENDMENT ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. RELATED TO SEVERE DISRUPTIONS HAPPENING IN THE CHAMBERS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE DO HAVE A LIMITED FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT'S LIMITED BY THE COUNCIL'S NEED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. THE RULES WERE UPDATED TO PROMOTE THAT EFFICIENCY AND COUNCIL STAFF DID GO THROUGH AN EXERCISE OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC TYPES OF CONDUCT THAT WERE OBVIOUSLY DISRUPTIVE. AND AT THE TIME FOLKS WERE BRINGING IN PROPS TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND OBSTRUCTING PEOPLE'S VIEW. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WOULD GATHER AT THE PODIUM AND MAKE IT HARD TO HEAR THE SPEAKER. RULES WERE IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS. HOWEVER THE BROADER ISSUE OF DISRUPTION IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE HARDER TO IDENTIFY. SO THE CHAIR HAS ALWAYS HAD THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THE CHAMBER AND QUELL DISRUPTIONS. I THINK THAT MY OBSERVATION IS THE PRESIDING THE OFFICER HAS USED THAT AUTHORITY JUDICIOUSLY AND ALWAYS HAS A CHECK. THE COUNCIL CAN KEEP THE PRESIDING OFFICER IN CHECK IN THE EVENT THEY THINK THAT AUTHORITY TO QUELL IS BEING USED IMPROVEDANTLY. WE NEED TO HONOR PEOPLE'S CONTENT AND LET PEOPLE SPEAK THEIR MIND REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DISRUPTIVE OR DANGEROUS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THE THING I WAS LOOKING AT MORE THAN ANYTHING IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY WE NEED HERE IN CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S VOICES ARE HEARD. AND YOU KNOW I WAS JUST CARIOUS AS TO WHAT LEVEL RESULTS IN DISRUPTION. THAT'S THE POINT THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS ON A CERTAIN ISSUE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TRANSPARENCY IS THERE AND PEOPLE'S WORDS GET OUT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. LACKING A SPECIFIC AMENDMENT, PERHAPS WE CAN REVIEW THAT AND IF NEEDED WE CAN COME BACK AND DO THAT. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND. I HAVE QUESTIONS IN REFERENCES TO CLARIFICATION ON NUMBER 11 ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 6A5. BILLS DO NOT PASS COMMITTEE REPORT ACCEPTANCE OF A DO NOT PASS COMMITTEE REPORT OR REJECTION. JUST ON THE PARAGRAPH HERE, I JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR.MELENDREZ. >> ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE COUNCIL RULES IS THAT IF A BILL COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE GETS A VOTE OF DO NOT PASS BY THE COMMITTEE THE COUNCIL'S ACCEPTANCE RESULTS IN THE BILL FAILING. IN OTHER WORDS IT DOESN'T GET A HEARING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED NOT PASS AND ACCEPTING THAT REPORT THE BILL DAYS. WE HAD AN INSTANCE, AND I THINK JUST AT THE END OF LAST YEAR WHERE A COUPLE OF BILLS CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH DO NOT PASS VOTES AND I THINK IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AT THE TIME THAT THE RULES WEREN'T VERY CLEAR ON THE PROCEDURE FOR RESURRECTING ONE OF THE BILLS FROM FAILURE. IN PARTICULAR, THE RULES HAD A LITTLE BIT OF INTERNAL INCONSISTENCY WITHIN THEM BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND THEY SAID THE BILL FAILED AND ON THE OTHER HAND THEY SAID PLACED ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA AND THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH A SEPARATE RULE THAT PROVIDE PHYSICAL THE BILL IS GOING TO BE REVISITED IT HAS TO BE AT THE SAME MEETING. THE AMENDMENT IS AN ATTEMPT TO RECONCILE THE CONFLICT. AND PROVIDE THAT IN ORDER TO RESURRECT THE BILL FROM FAILURE IT WOULD REQUIRE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION. I VOTED TO PLACE THAT ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA AND THAT ACTION WOULD REVIVE THE BILL THAT TAKES CARE OF THE CONFLICT OF NEEDING THAT REVIVING OF THE BILL AT THE SAME MEETING. AND ELIMINATE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER ONE THAT I NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON AS WELL. THAT'S NUMBER 13, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION EIGHT, EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. JUST MAYBE GO OVER THAT TO CLARIFY. >> THIS DEALS WITH -- HOLD ON LET ME READ THIS REAL QUICK. IN THE REGULAR COURSE OF BUSINESS THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE ACTION ON A CONTRACT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A REPORT THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. AND IT'S ACTION IN THOSE INSTANCES WITH RESPECT TO REPORT IS SIMPLY RECEIVE IT. THOSE TYPES OF EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS COMING DOWN DON'T GENERALLY -- THERE'S EXCEPTIONS BUT THEY DON'T GENERALLY GENERATE A BUNCH OF DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE. SO I THINK THE IDEA WITH THIS ONE IS THAT THOSE BILLS WILL BE ALLOWED TO SKIP COMMITTEE TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE THE STOP AT COMMITTEE TO TRY TO PROMOTE SOME EFFICIENCY AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. ALSO WITH RESPECT TO CONTRACT EXTENSION, NOT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, FROM TIME TO TIME THE CITY WILL ENTER A CONTRACT THAT REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVE BUT WILL NEED AN EXTENSION OF TIME OR FUNDS, THOSE CAN GET OBSERVATION OR NOT GENERATE A LOT OF DISCUSSION. IT PERMITS TO THOSE TO SKIP COMMITTEE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AND SAVE IT FOR COUNCIL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR OTHERWISE. FINALLY, THIS ONE DEALS WITH APPOINTMENTS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND LANDMARKS COMMISSION. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TYPES OF APPOINTMENTS THAT GENERALLY REQUIRE A STOP AT LUPS COMMITTEE. ALL OTHER ARE AUTOMATIC HOLD OVERS. HOWEVER, IN RECENT HISTORY WITH RESPECT TO REAPPOINTMENTS, THIS IS A MEMBER THAT HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE AND IS SIMPLY FINISHED THE FIRST TERM AND UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, THOSE ARE BEEN SKIPPING COMMITTEE IN PRACTICE, AND THIS WILL MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST TO CLARIFY, TO BE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS. IF THERE'S EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION, A REPORT ON QUARTERLY STATUS OF XYZ PROGRAM THAT COMES TO THE COUNCIL THE OTHER RULES STILL APPLY WHERE COUNCILORS MAKE A REQUEST AND SEND IT TO A COMMITTEE FOR A DIFFERENT HEARING AND VOTE TO HOLD IT OVER AND DEFER ALL THE STANDARD THINGS APPLY SO THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IN JUST BRINGING THOSE TO THE COUNCIL IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN IT NEVER GETS A HEARING. IT GIVES THE COUNCILORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST THAT OR FOR FURTHER HOLD OVER FOR ANOTHER MEETING IF THEY REQUEST. BUT 95% OF THESE NEVER GENERATE ANY KIND OF COMMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. DEFERRAL WOULD BE AN OPTION. IF THEY NEED MORE TIME. AND ALSO AS WE'VE SEEN FROM TIME TO TIME THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION MAY BE AMENDED TO MAKE A SPECIFIC REFERRAL FOR SOMETHING. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON R-A2? >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. MELENDREZ, WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS. TWO-THIRD VOTE. NINE COUNCILORS. LET ME CLARIFY. IF THERE'S SIX COUNCILORS PRESENT, THERE'S A QUORUM. WOULD IT STILL REQUIRE SIX VOTES? TWO-THIRDS OF SIX? >> IT WILL BE TWO-THIRDS OF SIX. THE ATTEMPT WAS TO TRY TO UPDATE THE TABLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE MATH ON THE FLY. ON PAGE TEN OF THE BILL, IT'S ALWAYS DANGEROUS ESPECIALLY FOR US AND LAWYERS NOT INCLINED, IT JUST SIMPLY LAYS OUT WHAT CONSTITUTES A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. YOUR QUESTION IS IN TERMS OF SIX. I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG PAGE. IN ANY EVENT, WITH SIX MEMBERS PRESENT, IT IDENTIFIES SPECIFICALLY WHAT TWO THIRDS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THAT VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TWO-THIRDS? OKAY. JUST DOING THE MATH. >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IT SAYS ON PAGE FIVE AND SIX. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. IF THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION, THERE'S A THREE-FOURTHS VOTE. BUT PAGE FIVE AND SIX DEALS WITH NORMAL MAJORITY. AND FOR A SUPER MAJORITY OF SIX FOUR VOTES ARE REQUIRED. THAT'S ALWAYS IN THE RULES IT'S JUST A CHEAT SHEET FOR THE MATH ON THE TWO-THIRDS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS CONSISTENT TO JUST GO OVER IT AGAIN. ANY BILL WILL BE REVISED SUBSEQUENT. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH ROBERT'S RULES? OR THIS IS WHAT WE DECIDE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, ROBERT'S RULES DEALS WITH VOTE OF GENERAL ASSEMBLIES ASK HOW THEY CONDUCT BUSINESS. LEGISLATIVE,/GENERAL ASSEMBLIES IS A HYBRID. ROBERTS RULES DOESN'T GIVE THE LEVEL OF SPECIFICITIES THAT WE NEED. THAT'S WHY THE COUNCIL RULE ON THE INSIDE BASEBALL STUFF IS STAND-ALONE. THIS IS A CREATION OF THE COUNCIL THAT THE COUNCIL CAN SORT OF CHANGE THOU SEES FIT. IT DOESN'T CHANGE SUBSTANTIVELY. IT CLARIFIES THE PROCESS FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN TO AVOID CONFUSION. IT'S A BIT OF CONFUSION TO TAKE VOTES THAT APPEAR NEGATIVE ANYWAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF I HAVE COMMITTEES -- IF WE HAVE A COMMITTEE AND WE DO ALL THE HOMEWORK AND DECIDE WE VOTED IT DOWN IN COMMITTEE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROCESS TO REVIVE A VOTE. WE CAN PUT THE VOTE BACK IN AT A LATER TIME AND GIVE IT ANOTHER SHOT. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS -- THIS ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR COMMITTEE IF WE CAN REVIVE A BILL THAT WE KILLED IN COMMITTEE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY FAIR POLICY DEBATE. FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE. ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE A COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IN THAT WAY. I THINK AT ITS CORE IT'S INTENDED TO PROTECT THE MINORITY ON THE COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE POLICY DEBATE AT THE FULL COUNCIL. A COMMITTEE CAN HAVE A QUORUM WITH THREE MEMBERS. A DO NOT PASS RECOMMENDATION COULD COME OUT BY TWO PEOPLE VOTING FOR THE DO NOT PASS. IF THE COMMITTEE IS FULLY STAFF IT REQUIRES A VOTE OF THREE. WHAT THIS IS DOING IS SAYING A MINORITY BY SIMPLY ONE MORE VOTE, A VOTE OF FOUR PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIVE THAT TO GET IT BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL. IT'S TO PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY ON THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. PEÑA: IT WOULD SEEM AS THOUGH WE COULD JUST NOT HAVE A DO NOT PASS. IF WE DON'T AGREE AND MAYBE IT SHOULD STATE IT WOULD GO FOR FULL COUNCIL RATHER THAN THE PROCESS TO REVIVE A DEAD BILL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AGAIN REASONABLE POLICY DEBATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS IS THERE. THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED THE BILLS WERE PULLED OUT FOR DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL BY A VOTE OF FOUR. I REMEMBER A TIME BEFORE THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE REPORT AND IT WAS AN EFFICIENT WAY TO DISPOSE OF THE BILL. IT HAPPENED BOTH WAYS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, MY NEXT QUESTION, THIS ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR COMMITTEES. MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IT. ON THE EC, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? HOW THE EC ARE IMPACTED. THE EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, SO THE ADMINISTRATION, THE EC IS THE MAIN VEHICLE BY WHICH THE ADMINISTRATION TRANSMITS THINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IN THE NATURE OF THE THINGS IT TRANSMITS ARE REGULAR REPORTS OR ORDINANCES IN THE CITY CODE THAT REQUIRES AN ADMINISTRATION TO SUBMIT EVERY QUARTER, SEMI ANNUALLY, THIS DEALS WITH THOSE REPORTS THAT SOMETIMES DO GET SOME DEBATE AT COMMITTEE. MANY TIMES, THEY'RE A QUICK MOTION, SECOND AND VOTE AT COMMITTEE. SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO JUST PROMOTE SOME EFFICIENCY AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL THAT WOULD OTHERWISE COME TO COUNCIL ON CONSENT. THOSE FOLKS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THEM WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE REPORT AND PULL THEM OFF CONSENT. THE OTHER THING THAT SIM PACTED ARE CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR UPDATE. IN OTHER WORDS WE CONTRACTED WITH SOMEBODY FOR SIX MONTHS AND IT'S GOING WELL AND WE NEED TO EXTEND IT AND THAT EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION DOESN'T GARNER A LOT OF DISCUSSION. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. BUT IN GENERAL THEY DON'T. AND WITH RESPECT TO REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE CPC AND LANDMARKS COMMISSION. THEY HAVE BEEN VETTED ONCE, THOSE WOULD SKIP THE COMMITTEE. WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN FOLLOWING ANYWAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IN ESSENCE IT JUST GIVES MORE TIME ON EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION AND CONTRACTS WHICH HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT IF THERE'S SOMETHING URGENT MAYBE THAT SOME CONTRACT HAD THAT HAPPEN AND THERE'S A MEETING DELAY BECAUSE IT GIVES MORE TIME TO DIGEST WHICH GIVES MORE TIME TO TEAR IT APART. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO ACT ON QUICKLY. >> I THINK THE RESULT OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE EXPEDIENT WITH RESPECT TO THOSE BILLS. BECAUSE IN GENERAL, THE LONGER WINDING ROUTE FOR A BILL AT COUNCIL IS FOR IT TO GO TO COMMITTEE. THIS WOULD SAY IT'S AUTOMATICALLY HELD OVER. IT'S ACTUALLY MORE BENEFIT FOR THOSE ON THE SHORTER FUSE. IT'S AT THE DISCRETION TO REFER OR HOLD OVER. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE GENERAL DISCRETION FROM THE PRESIDENT AND MAKE THE HOLD OVER AUTOMATIC SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL TO REFER THE BILL AT ANY TIME. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WASN'T AS INTRIGUED UNTIL I HEARD WHY HAVE COMMITTEES. >>COUN. DAVIS: I KNOW THAT'S MUSIC TO YOUR EARS. IN REGARD TO PAGE EIGHT, LINE SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHERE WE HAVE THE ADDITION OF ANY BILL FAILED IN THIS MANNER, AND I KNOW YOU EXPLAINED IT, BUT MY WHEELS ARE TURNING IN A WHOLE OTHER WAY. ANY FAILED WILL BE REVIVED BY A MOTION AND SECOND TO REVIVE. YOU WERE SAYING, LET'S SAYING THREE IN A COMMITTEE VOTE FOR DO NOT PASS. THEN IN THAT SAME MEETING FOUR WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. OR COULD THAT BE IN THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING OR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? WHICH SUBSEQUENT MEETING COULD THE FOUR VOTE HAPPEN AT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THINGS YOU ALREADY KNOW. BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THEM TO LAY A FOUNDATION. THE COMMITTEE TAKES A VOTE. AND THEN ONCE THAT VOTE IS MADE, IT'S DONE. FOR THAT MEETING. AND THEN THE COMMITTEE REPORTS OUT THAT VOTE. AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS THE TIME WHEN THIS PARTICULAR PROCEDURE WOULD OCCUR. AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THE CHAIR IS READING OUT IN THE MATTER OF PICK A BILL, DUE PASS, AND ANOTHER BILL DO NOT PASS. THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THE MINORITY OF THE WHOLE, FOUR OF THE NINE, CHECK ON THAT DO NOT PASS. IT WOULDN'T EFFECT THE COMMITTEE IT WOULD EFFECT WHAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO AT THE TIME THAT IT IS VOTING TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, SO WHAT COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS SAYING, THE FULL COUNCIL COULD STILL WEIGH IN? IT'S NOT IT JUST GETS A DO NOT PASS, IF THE FULL COUNCIL AND THE MAJORITY FULL COUNCIL ARE WILLING TO PULL THAT OUT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AS SEEN, I THINK IT WENT BOTH WAYS ON THIS COUNCIL. TO WHERE I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT ABILITY AWAY FROM THE FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A WEAK COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. I SEE THE BENEFITS OF IT IN SOME WAYS. I THINK IT'S BY DESIGN OUR COMMITTEEERIZE DESIGNED TOSLOW THE PROCESS OF A BILL. GIVE IT PLENTY OF TIME FOR CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC COMMENT, DISCUSSION. THAT RULE IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR COMMITTEES REALLY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE UP OR DOWN ON BILLS WHICH, YOU KNOW IF ITS YOUR BILL IT'S A GOOD THING, IF IT GETS VOTED DOWN IT'S A BAD THING. I SEE THE VALUE OF SLOWING THE PROCESS DOWN AND GIVING PROPER PROCEDURES AND TIME. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO COMMENT ON. MY QUESTION IS ON ORDER OF BUSINESS. MAYBE THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE RULES AMENDMENT THAT WE WOULD JUST DELETE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSE. I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR WE'VE HAD ONE OR TWO PRESENTATIONS. THE 25 MEETINGS I'VE BEEN A PART OF. I THINK EVERY OTHER ITEM AND ORDER OF BUSINESS THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THERE. EVERY SINGLE MEETING EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE. THAT STARTED OUT I THINK FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO WITH A, I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS COUNCIL PRESIDENT WE PUT IT IN THERE, AND IT WAS REALLY GIVING THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AN OPPORTUNITY AT EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT VICTORY, OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WERE HAVING THAT WERE CREATING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS TALK ABOUT BARRIERS THE COUNCIL NEEDED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT. IT WAS SOMETHING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REALLY TOOK ON. I DON'T WANT TO ASK THEM OR MAKE THEM DO THAT RIGHT NOW IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST A PART OF THEIR PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW. IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON EVERY SINGLE WEEK I THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE THAT. WOULD THIS, MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD THIS BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DELETE THAT IN THAT SECTION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YES, IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ON PAGE SIX LINE THIRTEEN ITEM FOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION BE DELETED AND THE REMAINING ITEMS BE RENUMBERED, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL MOVE THAT. I WANT OUR AGENDA TO HAVE SOME WEIGHT TO IT. IF WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THERE, IT JUST WEAKENS AND KIND OF MAKES IT EVEN LESS. WE CAN ALWAYS DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION DURING Q&A PRESENTATION. ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT THOSE. ANYWAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEVERAL SECONDS. I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE AND COME AROUND. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS DIFFERENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> NARRATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, . >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHERE WILL SUPPORT THIS DECISION. I WILL PINT OUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE WHEN WE HAVE LEDA PROJECTS WE TRY TO PUT THEM ON THE TOP OF THE ACTION ITEM AND GETS OUR ATTENTION. I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. ON AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYMORE PRESENTATIONS OR DO YOU? NO? OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. TRY COUNCILOR BENTON ONE MORE TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WARE BACK ON THE RULE AMENDMENT AS TWICE AMENDED. OTHER TOPICS? COUNCILOR PEÑA AND WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST TO ADD TO THAT. SO I DON'T CONFUSE ANYONE ANYMORE. ON THIS PROCESS AGAIN, I'M STILL STUCK ON THIS PROCESS. I AGREE, IF IT'S YOUR BILL YOU DON'T WANT IT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SAME PROCESS FOR A DUE PASS? LET'S SAY IT IS A SMALL COMMITTEE AND THEY VOTE FOR A DUE PASS. WE USUALLY HAVE A PROCESS FOR IT TO COME HERE AND ASK THE COMMITTEE REPORT, RIGHT? AND IT'S DONE. DO WE HAVE A PROCESS IN ADDITION FOR A DO PASS OR DO NOT PASS? >> TO ADD A LAYER OF COMPLEXITY, THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. AS WRITTEN TODAY. THIS SAME VOTING PROCEDURE WOULD APPLY TO SCENARIO WHERE THEY RECOMMEND A DO PASS AND THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REJECT THAT. THEY CAN REJECT THAT AT COUNCIL. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT. AND THAT'S WITHIN THE SAME LANGUAGE RIGHT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IT WOULD PLAY OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THE -- IF IT COMES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WITH A DO PASS AND THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REJECT THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE THE MAJORITY IS CHOOSING TO NOT HEAR THE BILL AT THAT TIME. THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT INSTANCE FOR A VOTE OF FOUR TO REVIVE IT. IT'S ONLY AS WRITTEN TO BE REVIABLE COMING OUT OF A DO NOT PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IF NOT, I'LL COME BACK WITH THE RULES AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: ISN'T THIS FUN? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS FOR THE MOMENT, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE, MAYBE THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT SIGNED UP ON THIS MATTER. >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JOSHUA, FOLLOWED BY PETER ON ZOOM. >> I HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT. LIMITING PEOPLE TO TWO MINUTES IS A VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. I KNOW YOU WANT TO GO HOME. BUT WHEN YOU MADE THE CHOICE TO RUN FOR THIS OFFICE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET FOUR YEARS TO WORK EXTRA HARD AND GET LITTLE SLEEP. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU CAN SUGGEST, YOU CAN ASK THIS, YOU TRY AND KEEP OUR SPEECH TO TWO MINUTES. BUT LIMITING US TO TWO MINUTES IS ABSOLUTELY A VIOLATION OF OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IN 2021 THE LEGISLATURE PASSED AWAY THE LAW TAKING AWAY IMMUNITIES. THERE'S UP TO$2 MILLION CAP ON THAT. TRUST ME, IF YOU LOOK AROUND THIS COUNTRY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WON A LOT OF LAWSUITS BECAUSE VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OR ANY RIGHTS. I HATE TO SEE ANY OF YOU HAVE LAWSUIT IN YOUR PERSONAL PRIVATE CAPACITY OR YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY. THANK YOU. >> PETER FOLLOWED BY SANDRA. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, CITY COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON TWO OF THE RULES. WHEN IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE BEING ELIMINATED? IT'S ONE OF THE PLACES TO VOICE CONCERNS. PUBLIC SAFETY WITH ACS AND APD IS CRITICAL FOR THE SAFETY OF NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WE APPRECIATE THE VOICE OF COUNCILOR SANCHEZ PROVIDED US REGARDING THIS MATTER. THE SECOND, MOVING COMMENTS AGAIN, I APPRECIATE NOT OCCURRING. BECAUSE LIKE MANY OF US, I CANNOT ATTEND EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN GONE OVER BUT THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY MANY OF US HAVE A CHANCE TO HEAR ABOUT IT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU PUT IT AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE IT INVOLVES MONEY AND OTHER ISSUES. WE APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BASSAN NOT MOVING IT TO THE END BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE BEING SILENCED. TAKING AWAY A VOICE. I WAITED UNTIL MIDNIGHT BUT IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT IF I COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IT'S LOST AT THAT POINT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME STAYING UNTIL MIDNIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY. AND I ALSO -- I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THE TWO MINUTES OR ONE AND A HALF MINUTE, PERSONALLY IT'S A CHALLENGE. I THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE AS MANY COMMENTERS LIKE ME CAN BE INCLUDED. I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING ALL THESE INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >> SANDRA. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU'RE A LITTLE FAINT. YOUR VIDEO IS BREAKING UP AS WELL. >> I'M A RESIDENT OF COUNCILOR DAVIS'S DISTRICT. AND THE SPONSOR OF THIS CURRENT BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SECTION NINE. THE ORDER OF BUSINESS. AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE MOVED TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. WHICH THAT TIME FRAME HAS USUALLY BEEN AROUND MIDNIGHT BASED ON PAST MEETINGS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, CONSTITUENTS ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE. AND DUE TO CURRENT INFLATION SOME ARE NOW HAVING TO WORK TWO JOBS IN ADDITION TO FAMILY LIFE. THE TIME FRAME OF APPROXIMATELY 6 TO 9 P.M. IS ALL THE TIME THEY MAY HAVE AVAILABLE TO MAKE THEIR OPINIONS OR COMMENTS KNOWN TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. AS OPPOSED TO MOVING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE END OF THE AGENDA I PROPOSE THIS BODY SET ASIDE ONE HOUR A MONTH DURING ANY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ALLOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ON RECORD. AND THANK YOU FOR COUNCILOR BASSAN BRINGING THIS UP MATTER EARLIER. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON RULE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO AS TWICE AMENDED. ANY OTHER COMMENT? SEEING NONE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM C. COUNCILOR BASSAN, R-99. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-99 AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEM PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AVIATION DEPARTMENT BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS, APPROVING NEW PROJECTS CLOSING PROMTHS AND ACCEPTING FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I LIKE TO INVITE THE ADMINISTRATION TO SPEAK. THIS IS PER REQUEST. >>COUN. DAVIS: I SEE THE AVIATION DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS RESOLUTION. THIS WILL GIVE US ABOUT $37 MILLION OF GRANT MONEY TO CONTINUE CAPITAL PROJECTS AT THE AIRPORT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: BEST PRESENTATION OF THE NIGHT. GREAT JOB. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, NEXT UP COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR JONES. R-104. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-1041 APPROVING THE AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF GRANT APPLICATION FOR COVID-19 AND INFLUENZA UP TAKE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILORS, BACK ON YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? ACCEPT THE MONEY. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON ITEM A. SPEAKING OF LONG MEETINGS. O-47 AS SUBSTITUTED THREE TIMES AT LEAST. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR LEWIS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO GET US STARTED? WE DIDN'T REALLY PRACTICE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK I'LL READ THIS AND GO FROM THERE IN TERMS OF THE AMENDMENTS. O-47 FLOOR SUBNUMBER THREE THE ALBUQUERQUE TRANSIT SECURITY EQUITABLE ACCESS ORDINANCE AMEPPEDING CHAPTER SEVEN OF THE TRANSIT ORDINANCE REQUIRING SECURITY AND FAIR AND ACCESS STUDIES TO INPROVE ACCESSIBILITY AND SECURITY ON THE ALBUQUERQUE RIDE AND SUN VAN TRANSIT SYSTEM. I MOVE A PASS. THERE'S SEVERAL AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE HAVE A FEW PUBLIC COMMENT. WHY DON'T WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES BACK AND FORTH. IF YOU'RE READY, WHY DON'T WE START WITH THAT? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ALTHEA FOLLOWED BY DIANE ON ZOOM. >>COUN. DAVIS: MAYBE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS WILL GIVE US WISDOM TO INFORM OUR LAST MINUTE CHANGES. WELCOME. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON TWITTER AGAIN. >> YES. I'M A BUS RIDER ORGANIZER WITH TOGETHER WITH BROTHERS. AFTER MONTHS OF ASKING YOU NOT TO ASK, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE LAST RECENT FLOOR SUB. MAKING IT -- IT WILL EXPAND TRANSIT EQUITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO LOOK ATH THE NEW BILL AND STUDYING. IN TERMS OF EQUITY I THINK YOU FIND WHAT I FIND IS OUR BEST SYSTEM IS MUCH MORE EQUITABLE AND FAIR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING SAFETY FROM A WHOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE. IT WOULD BE TO IMPROVE BUS DRIVER'S ATTENTION SO THEY CAN HAVE -- MAKES SPENDING LESS TIME ON THE BUS PLATFORM WHICH CAN GET CROWDED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA MOST OF THE SECURITY CALLS TEND TO HAPPEN. GETTING HERE TONIGHT ACTUALLY WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE BOTH OF THE 16 BUS RUNS I WOULD HAVE TAKEN GOT CANCELED DUE TO DRIVER SHORTAGE. I WAS LUCKY THAT I HAD FAMILY THAT COULD GIVE ME A RIDE TO THE ART STOP WHICH WAS RUNNING. MOST TRANSIT DEPARTMENT RIDERS DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY AND FAMILY THAT CAN HELP THEM WITH THAT. I ALSO HOPE TAKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR APPLYING FOR FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND COMPENSATION OF THE DRIVER SYSTEM. WE SHOULD TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THEM. WITH ADEQUATE COMMUNITY INCOMBAJMENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING A WIDE VARIETY OF VOICES TO GET THE SAFEST BUS SERVICE WE DESERVE. I ASK YOU TO PASS O-22-47. THANK YOU. >> DIANE FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO UNMUTE. GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU INTEREST YOUR PATIENCE AND HARD WORK. I LIVE IN THE SOUTH VALLEY. I REPRESENTING THE SIERRA CLUB 5,000 MEMBERS OF THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. WE THINK THAT ZOE -- ZERO FARES ARE GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. FEWER CARS ON THE ROAD THE BETTER THE AIR. FEWER CARS MEAN FEWER PEOPLE OUT IN THE FRESHER. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT ASPECT. ALSO, IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE. WE HAD A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TRULY NEED THIS SERVICE AND RELY ON IT. THE ZERO FARES MEANS AN AWFUL LOT TO THEM. NUMBER OF COVID BENEFITS ARE GOING TO BE DECREASED. THIS WOULD BE A HIT ON FOLKS PAYING HIGHER BILLS FOR EVERYTHING. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. AND FINALLY I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE OUR CITY. WHEREVER I TRAVEL I ALWAYS TRY TO TAKE THE PUBLIC TRANSIT. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET TO KNOW THE PLACE YOU'RE VISITING. WE'VE INVESTED AS A TOWN AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY INTO THE BUS SYSTEM. SO LET'S CONTINUE TO MAKE IT BETTER. ZERO FARES MAKES THINGS QUICKER. GETTING OFF AND ON THE BUS MAKES PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO LOOK FOR A PASS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET. RIDERSHIP IS UP. I THINK THE DATA IS SHOWING THE INCIDENTS ARE A SMALL PERCENTAGE. NO ONE WANTS ANY. I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE. KEEP ZERO FARES AND NO PASSES. IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT FOR OUR TOWN. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> AGAIN, I CAN'T TURN ON MY VIDEO. I'M HERE. START MY VIDEO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I VERY MUCH APPLAUD THE REVISIONS CONTAINED, APPROVED FLOOR SUBSTITUTE THREE. THANKSES TO THE COUNCILORS WHO PROVIDED FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT IS WELCOMING, SAFE AND USER FRIENDLY. I URGE YOU TO ACCEPT THE APPROVED FLOOR SUBSTITUTE THREE OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE O-22-47. AND ASSURE THE RESOURCES AND COUNCIL SUPPORT MADE AVAILABLE TO EXPLORE THE ROLE THAT PUBLIC USE ENCOURAGING DESIGNS AND STRATEGIES AND HUMAN RESOURCES CAN PLAY IN BUILDING PUBLIC RELIANCE AND USE OF ALBUQUERQUE'S PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES. I'M GRATEFUL THAT THIS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE PUTS OFF RELIANCE ON PASSES FOR FREE ACCESS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND YOU MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHO MAY BE AT A BUS STOP TO RECOGNIZE THE LEGITIMATE REASONS PEOPLE FIND THEIR WAY TO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. IT MIGHT BE THE BUS STOP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY SHOULD GO AND WHEN. AS SOMEBODY THAT STOOD AT PUBLIC TRANSIT SITES IN SEVERAL CITIES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO AND HOW TO GET THERE I'M RELIEVE OFFEND PEOPLE THAT WALK THROUGH AND CHECK OUT PUBLIC TRANSIT STOPS WILL NOT GET CAUGHT IN VIOLATION TRANSIT STOP RULES. ONE BEST PRACTICE IN THE REVISED PROPOSED THAT I HIGHLY APPRECIATE CREATING PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE WAYS TO INCREASE PUBLIC USE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEMS SUCH AS PUBLIC ART, ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND CIVILIAN NATURAL SURVEILLANCE THAT COULD BE HELPERS FOR THOSE USING THE SYSTEM. IT'S NOT PART OF THIS LEGISLATION, BUT I MUST OBSERVE THAT IF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM BECOMES USER FRIENDLY IN REGARD TO ROUTES. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: ROSEMARY, THANK YOU VERY MARCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >> LASTLY, SARAH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE WITH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS WHILE STILL KEEPING THE MAJOR GOAL OF INCREASING RIDERSHIP ON OUR BUSES AND ART SYSTEM AND THE SUN VAN. WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IS TRULY REMARKABLE. I'VE BEEN SERIOUSLY IMPRESSED BY YOUR ABILITY TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AS WELL AS LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS WHO FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT OUR BUS FARES NEED TO BE ZERO. AND THAT OUR BUS SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE SAFE. AND COMFORTABLE FOR ALL TO USE. CONGRATULATIONS. PLEASE FINISH YOUR VERY HARD WORK BY VOTING YES ON AMENDMENT THREE FOR 22-47. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S HOPE THAT SHE'S RIGHT AND WE'LL FINISH THIS TONIGHT. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON 47. I THINK, UNLESS THE SPONSORS WOULD LIKE TO DO OTHERWISE WE'LL JUST JUMP INTO AMENDMENTS. DO YOU HAVE THE LIST FOR THE PUBLIC? I KNOW WE'VE REARRANGED FORDERS. THERE WE GO. COUNCILORS, FIRST UP, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR PEÑA ON SELF-CERTIFICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS WILL BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ON PAGE SIX LINE 21 AFTER COMMA DELETE THE REMAINDER OF THE LINE AND ALL OF THE LINES 22 THROUGH 27 AND INSERT IN LIEU OF. THE FOLLOWING SHALL BE ABLE TO SELF-CERTIFY AS DISABILITY. ON PAGE SIX DELETE THE WORD A. ON PAGE SIX LINE 32 DELETE THE WORD APRIL AND REPLACE JUNE. THE REASONS FOR THE CHANGES ARE LISTED BY ITEM BELOW. ESTABLISHES AN APPLICANT FOR SUN VAN SERVICE CAN SELF-CERTIFY. THE ADMINISTRATION REQUESTED 14 WEEKS FOR THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP A SUN VAN SELF-CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED PROCESS AND THE COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE EC AND AN ADDITIONAL SIX WEEKS TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT IS SELF-EX-PLANATORY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN OFFERS THE SECOND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IT'S SELF-X PLANATORY. IT REMOVES THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU COME IN AND INTERVIEW. IT'S MORE OF A BROADER LANGUAGE WHERE IT SAYS IT'S A ONE-STOP SHOP. IT'S AS CLOSE THIS MOVES IT TO SELF-CERTIFICATION. AND LEAVES IT BROAD AND LEAVES THE DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE WAS WHEN WE CRESTED DEPARTMENT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEIR REVIEW WAS THE FTA DOES ALLOW FOR SELF-CERTIFICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT MAKES TRANSIT EMPLOYEES QUALIFIED TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEONE HAS A DISABILITY THAT MAKES THEM ELIGIBLE FOR THE SUN VAN SERVICE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, LET ME HAVE YOUR TRANSIT DIRECTOR GIVE YOU HISTORICALLY HOW TRANSIT HAS MANAGED THAT ISSUE. AND THEN MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE. >>COUN. DAVIS: WELCOME, DIRECTOR. YOU'VE WAITED PATIENTLY THE WHOLE MEETING. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT MAKES TRANSIT EMPLOYEES QUALIFIED TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEONE HAS A DISABILITY THAT MAKES THEM ELIGIBLE FOR THE SUN VAN SERVICE? >> IT'S A WHOLISTIC REVIEW OF THE ENTIRE APPLICATION. PART OF THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE IN THE SUN VAN APPLICATION. LONG WITH INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED FROM THE PROVIDER WHETHER IT'S A MEDICAL PROVIDER, PHYSICIAN PSYCHIATRIST. ALONG WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. THEY CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WHETHER OR NOT THE VARIABLES -- SOMETIMES IT'S A LACK OF EDUCATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF ACCESSIBILITY ON THE FIXED ROUTE. A PERSON MAY THINK THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY BE ABLE TO USE FIXED ROUTE AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS MORE. THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF THE ACCESSIBILITY WE HAVE WITH FIXED ROUTE. >>COUN. GROUT: ACCORDING TO THIS I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A DOCTOR'S NOTE, IS THAT TRUE? >> ACCORD TO THE LEGISLATION? >>COUN. GROUT: YEAH. >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WHAT IF A TRANSIT EMPLOYEE FINDS THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE, IS THAT PERSON ELIGIBLE FOR AN APPEAL? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CURRENT STATUS? >>COUN. GROUT: IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU FIND HE OR SHEEGS IS NOT ELIGIBLE CAN THEY APPEAL? >> YES. THERE IS AN FTA APPEAL PROCESS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. IN THIS CASE ON THE LEGISLATION IF WE'RE RELYING ON SELF-CERTIFICATION I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DENIALS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: -- >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. NEXT UP I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALSO COUNCILOR PEÑA'S, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I THINK THIS IS ITEM B WHICH IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ON PAGE SIX LINE 28, SHALL CONDUCT STUDY CREATE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. ON PAGE SIX LINE 31 DELETE THE WORD EIGHT AND REPLACE WITH 14. ON PAGE SIX DELETE THE WORD ADOPTION. AND DELETE THE WORD APRIL AND REPLACE WITH JUNE. THIS CLARIFIES SHORT-TERM TACTICAL PLAN DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE AN ACTION DOCUMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING SELF-CERTIFICATION INTO SUN VAN RIDERSHIP. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS SECONDED. >> MY APOLOGIES, WHEN WE CREATED THE AMENDMENT WE PUT IT AS PART OF A AND SEPARATED IT OUT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARY? >> THERE'S A FEW CORRECTIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE. THEY'RE FAIRLY SIMPLE. THAT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: WHY DON'T YOU READ THOSE? >> NUMBER ONE STAYS THE SAME. NUMBER TWO IS THE MAJOR CHANGE. ON PAGE SIX STARTING ONLINE 30 AND FOLLOWING THROUGH TO PAGE 7 LINE 11 DELETE THE WORD STUDY AND PUT IMPLEMENTATION. THAT MAKES SURE ALL OF THE STUDY IS IMPLEMENTATION. NUMBER THREE YOU CAN DELETE BECAUSE WE COVERED IN ITEM A. NUMBER FOUR, WOULD STAY THE SAME BECAUSE THAT DOES MOVE FROM ADOPTION TO EFFECTIVE DATE. AND NUMBER FIVE WE COVERED IN AMENDMENT A. >>COUN. DAVIS: WITH THOSE MINOR TECHNICAL THINGS, WE CAN PASS THIS AND YOU CAN CLEAN IT UP? IS THAT OKAY? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAD THIS QUESTION AT A PREVIOUS MEETING. IF AN AMENDMENT CONFLICTS WITH AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED EARLIER, IT CAN STILL PASS AS IS GIVEN IT'S REFERENING THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION? SO, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE CLEANED UP. IT CAN BE PASSED AS IS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR RATIONALE. I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME FOLLOWING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAD THIS QUESTION AS A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE HAD AMENDMENT PASSED AND ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND I WAS TOLD THE LINE ITEMS AND ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOES NOT NEED TO BE CLARIFIED BECAUSE IT WOULD REFERENCE THE ORIGINAL BILL. SO I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A CLEAN UP WE CAN PASS IT AS IS AND WHEN IT'S ENROLLED IT CAN BE CORRECTED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, SO, CONSULTING HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE PARAGRAPH TWO WOULD NEED CLARIFICATION TO GO TO PAGE SEVEN LINE 11. BUT HE'S JUST REASSURED THAT PARAGRAPHS THREE AND FIVE WOULD NOT CREATE INCONSISTENCY AS BE DUEPLICATIVE. TO TAKE THOSE OUT IS EASY. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY. >>COUN. DAVIS: GREAT. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. >>COUN. JONES: I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE -- MY EXPLANATION IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGED. WE'RE NOW IN A SITUATION WHERE ANYONE CAN SELF-CERTIFY ON THE SUN VAN. ANYONE CAN SELF-CERTIFY AND RIDE A SUN VAN WITHOUT QUESTIONING SO WHY DO WE HAVE SUN VAN? WHY DON'T WE JUST LET EVERYBODY RIDE THE SUN VAN AND THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO RIDE THE SUN VAN WILL BE IN A BUS? BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MEANS OF LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON A SUN VAN. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE BUT IN FACT WE MIGHT BE IN LETTING EVERYONE DO THIS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO MUST RIDE A SUN VAN? THEY CAN'T GET ON A REGULAR BUS. THEY NEED HELP. WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THEM? DEPENDS ON HOW THE FAST THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DECIDE THEY WANT A SUN VAN AND GET THEM BEAT TO THE DOOR. NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO ABILITY TO RIDE TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE OF HANDICAP. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO DO, BUT IS IT REALLY? ARE WE HARMING THE PEOPLE THAT THE SUN VAN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING? FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S EASIER TO GET ON THE SUN VAN AND STOPS MORE? I'M PUTTING THAT FORWARD AND MY EXPLANATION AND WHAT I'M THINKING NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO THINK. IN THE LONG RUN, WE'RE HARMING THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE SUN VAN FOR BY ALLOWING US TO HAVE NO QUALIFICATIONS OR NEED TO RIDE A SUN VAN. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS. MAYBE WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR JONES, I THINK FOR ONCE MR. RAEL MAY AGREE WITH YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, THAT'S CERTAINLY, WE BELIEVE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS AMENDMENT. THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT I'LL RELY ON THE FACT IT WAS A STUDY AND COMING BACK FOR AN IMPLEMENTATION. THIS AMENDMENT DOES AWAY WITH THE STUDY AND SAYS IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT. AND I DO THINK WE'LL GET PUSH BACK FROM SOME OF THE ADVOCATES FOR FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED SUN VAN BECAUSE OF DISABILITIES AND THE ADVOCACY FROM THAT COMMUNITY. I THINK THE INTENT AT LEAST WITH THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, OR THE FIRST AMENDMENT WOULD BE WE DO A STUDY AND COME BACK WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS AND A CERTIFICATION STRUCTURE THAT WOULD AT LEAST ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE ISSUES. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT TWO? >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A QUESTION AS MUCH AS A COMMENT. WHAT COUNCILOR JONES IS MAKING SENSE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I JUST KNOW WE'VE ALSO BACKED OURSELVES INTO MANY UNTENDED CONSEQUENCES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE, THIS IS -- I THINK THAT THIS STEMS FROM THE FACT WE ASK FOR STUDIES AND WE DON'T ALWAYS IMPLEMENT THEM BECAUSE THE STUDY FALLS OFF THE TO DO LIST AND WE GET AN EC WE VOTE ON TO ACCEPT THE STUDY AND WE'RE DONE. TO ME I KNOW WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND DISCUSSING IT IT WAS LIKE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT AFTERWARD. I CAN SEE WHERE I ORIGINALLY SUPPORTED THIS, YET AT THE SAME TIME IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A GIANT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE WITHOUT US KNOWING IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S A -- ONCE A STUDY IS COMPLETED THERE'S ANOTHER STEP WE DO BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT THAT'S NOT LETTING THE BALL DROP YET AT THE SAME TIME IT'S NOT JUST SAYING GO? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE WAY WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE DISABLED AND HAVE TO GO TO A LOT OF LENGTHS TO PROVE THEY'RE DISABLED ENOUGH TO TAKE THE SUN VAN. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON TO MAKE FOLKS DO THAT. HEARING A LOT OF CONCERN THAT PEOPLE WILL JUST RANDOMLY TAKE THE SUN VAN. IT MUST BE CHALLENGING TO GO THROUGH LIFE THINKING THE WORST OF EVERYONE. I DON'T CHOOSE TO DO THAT. I WORK ON A LOT OF LOW INCOME AND OTHER TYPES OF PROGRAMS LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE TRYING AS HARD AS WE CAN CAN TO REDUCE BARRIERS TO USE. AND THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE WAY TO REDUCE A BARRIER OF USE FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE THE MOST DISADVANTAGED. AND IF THIS BECOMES A HUGE ISSUE AND YOU'RE RIGHT AND PEOPLE JUST RANDOMLY DECIDE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION WE CAN COME BACK. FOR NOW, I REALLY WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THE BARRIERS TO USE SO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO A SUN VAN TO GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO WHEN THEY WANT TO NEED THERE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE ACTUALLY MET ON FRIDAY WHEN WE MET TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE BUILD. WHAT I WAS MOSTLY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT IS WHEN WE'RE TACKING ABOUT A STUDY AND I WAS RELUCTANT HEARING THE WORD STUDY TO STUDY AN ISSUE. WE WERE DIRECTLY TOLD THE STUDY WOULD BE TO ASSESS WHY THAT IT WOULD BE NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY. I DIDN'T WANT TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK JUST SO IT CAN TELL THE STUDY THAT SAYS THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO. I SAID THIS WASN'T THE INTENTION TO HAVE A STUDY IT WAS TO CREATE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. WHEN I HEARD ABOUT WHAT THE STUDY WOULD TRY TO ACHIEVE I SAID NO WE DEFINITELY OUR INTENTION WAS TO CREATE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. I GET THE CONCEPT OF SELF-CERTIFICATION. AND PERHAPS THE STUDY WAS THE WRONG CHOICE OF WORDS. I THINK THE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT PASSED AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO SELF-CERTIFY, I THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT. I THINK THE QUESTION BECOMES IS PERHAPS A PROCESS IN THE SELF-CERTIFICATION SUCH AS BRINGING THE PERSON COMING IN AND I'M SELF-CERTIFYING AND HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE AND WE DON'T DO THE INTERVIEW AND PROCESSES THAT PERHAPS WE HAD BEFORE AS A WAY TO KEEP SOME STRUCTURE TO THIS. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON WHEN WE FIRST HAD THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO WORK THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I AM TOTALLY AND THE MAYOR IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE INTENT OF TRYING TO GET AS MANY FOLKS, ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT NEED ACCESS ON SUN VAN. AND THAT REQUIRES A LONG PROCESS. HOWEVER WE CAN BE CAREFUL IN THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE MANY VANS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY DRIVERS. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE PROCESS GET TO A POINT WHERE WE DO WHAT COUNCILOR JONES HAS DESCRIBED WHICH IS WITH THE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE STRUCTURE OF THE SERVICE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE FOLKS WHO NEED THE SERVICE. THAT MAY BE ANOTHER BUDGET QUESTION DOWN THE ROAD. NONETHELESS I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, SIR. WE'RE BACK WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO CLARIFY, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT MR. RAEL SAID, I THINK WE HAVE A 14-WEEK PERIOD IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT GIVES TRANSIT AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE SAYING TOMORROW WE'RE DOING THIS. THERE'S A 14-WEEK PERIOD THAT COMES BACK WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM THAT CONSIDERS ALL OF THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE 14 WEEKS. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, A LOT OF GOOD POINTS. I BELIEVE THAT YOU WATER DOWN SOMETHING SO MUCH AND IT JUST TAKES AWAY THE REAL PURPOSE OF WHAT IT PROVIDES. SO THE ADMINISTRATION I THINK HAS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AND ABOUT PEOPLE SELF-SERVING. THAT'S LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. IT'S INTERESTING WE HAVE OTHER AMENDMENTS AND OTHER PARTS OF THIS BILL THAT PUT SOME SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE AND THEN WE THINK MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE TREATING UNFAIRLY SO LET'S HAVE THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION STUDY IT. WHY NOT HAVE THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION ANALYZE WHETHER THE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFYING PEOPLE THAT NEED TO -- HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RIDE THE SUN VAN. THAT'S ONE THING WE COULD DO. IF WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT. ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. THEN HAVE THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION ANALYZE IT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TREATING ANYBODY UNFAIRLY. WE'RE WILLING TO PUT SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE AND BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING. EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE TREATING PEOPLE UNFAIRLY OR HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO TREAT PEOPLE UNFAIRLY. I THINK I'M GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE OF COMMON SENSE. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR JONES AND I AGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S OPENS OURSELVES UP TO THIS TO BE ABUSED AND THEREFORE NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE SERVED. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M WORRIED ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. WE KNOW THE REGULAR BUS SYSTEM CUT ROUTE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DRIVERS OUT THERE. OUR REGULAR BUS SYSTEM IS NOT RELIABLE. UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON IS IF THE SUN VAN IS MORE RELIABLE THAN THE BUS SYSTEM YOU MIGHT HAVE INDIVIDUALS FAKING THESE INJURIES OR DISABILITIES. I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED THE SUN VAN GET THAT SERVICE. IF YOU'RE DISABLED. YOU SHOULD BE THERE. IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. AND IT'S JUST REALLY HARD. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THIS AGAIN AFTER WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ONCE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED. I THINK THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WANT TO GO TO MR. MEDACUCCI, BUT LET ME SAY I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. I WANTED TO BE A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT WITH THESE TWO COUNCILORS. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT WHY IT'S FOORNT LOWER THE BARRIERS. REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU READ ALL THIS IN CONTEXT IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT THIS IS THE NEW THING, FIGURE THIS OUT, BRING IT BACK TO US, THEY ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX WEEKS BEYOND THE EIGHT. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD AS COUNCILOR BASSAN BROUGHT UP IS THERE'S LOTS OF STUDIES AND LET'S DO THIS IN THE FUTURE. THIS CREATES A TIMELINE AND A THING AND WAY TO COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHICH IS YOUR PUBLIC INPUT AND REVIEW OF THAT WITHOUT HIDING IT, NO OFFENSE ON A WEBSITE THAT NOBODY READS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS INL EIGHT WEEK. IT WILL GET IMPLEMENTED UNLESS WE CHANGE IT. I THINK IT CREATES A FRAMEWORK FOR ESTABLISHING THE EXPECTATION AND ENSURING THERE'S TIMELINES BUILT IN. I LIKE THAT IT LANDS WITH US BEFORE BUDGET IS DONE THAT IF IT NEEDS TO HAVE ADJUSTMENT, THAT CAN BE PART OF THE PLAN AND ACT ON IT NOT DO THIS AND SAY WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MIDYEAR. I REALIZE IT MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT AND IT NEEDS TWEAKS IF IT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. I THINK THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH. THEY HAVE RAISED THOSE ISSUES. BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED THIS DONE. I THINK WE PASSED THREE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. AND OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT. IT SEEMS TO ME THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WE NEED TO SET THAT EXPECTATION SO IT CAN COME BACK TO US. AND THEN WE CAN NAY SAY IT. I DON'T TEXT US TO SAY WE DON'T GET IT RIGHT. IT'S OUR JOB TO GET IT DONE AND FIGURE IT TOUT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T HURDLE LET'S DO THAT THEN. I DON'T KNOW WE STOPPED THIS ASSUMING THERE WILL BE A HURDLE WITHOUT ASKING TO WORK ON IT. THAT'S MY REASON I WANT TO CO-SPONSOR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I NEED TO CLARIFY, ITEM A, THE WAY IT CHANGES THE LANGUAGE IS THAT ONE APPROVED MAKES IT ESTABLISHING THE PROCESS THAT PEOPLE APPLYING FOR SUN VAN SHALL SELF-CERTIFY. THAT'S IN PLACE. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS THAT IT JUST CHANGES THE LANGUAGE -- ORIGINALLY THE LANGUAGE WAS STUDY. THE QUESTION WAS IF THE AMENDMENT PASSED, WHICH IT DID, THEN YOU CLARIFY THAT YOU GUT A STUDY. IF THE AMENDMENT DIDN'T PASS IT WAS STILL OKAY WE DIDN'T PASS THE AMENDMENT, IT'S NOT IN THERE YET BUT COME BACK WITH A WAY TO SHOW US HOW TO -- BASICALLY WITH ITEM A ADOPTED IT DOES ESTABLISH SELF-CERTIFICATION AS PROCESS. THIS JUST RE-ESTABLISHED THE WAY YOU GO BACK TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE THAT THE STUDY WOULD BE ACTUALLY KNOWN TO ECONOMIC COME BACK. AS COUNCILOR PEÑA POINTED OUT TRANSIT WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO SHOW US HOW IT WOULDN'T WORK. WHETHER THIS PASSED OR NOT WE WANT YOU TOSHOW US THE WAY FORWARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR GROUT AND COME BACK AROUND AGAIN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M STILL REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SELF-ATTESTING. PEOPLE THAT TYPICALLY, I WOULD THINK, NEED THESE SERVICES PROBABLY OFTEN GO TO THE DOCTOR. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS SO HARD TO GET A DOCTOR'S NOTE TO HELP CLARIFY ANY ISSUES AND ELIMINATE THOSE FOLKS THAT PERHAPS DON'T REALLY NEED TO USE THAT SUN VAN. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS GOING BACK TO SECURITY ON THE BUS. I WANTED TO ASK MS. KEEF ON WHETHER MAKING MET RO SECURE OFFICERS INCREASES THE LIABILITY IN ANY WAY. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST TO INTERRUPT. I KNOW THAT'S A TOPIC OF A FUTURE AMENDMENT, SERIES AMENDMENTS OF SECURITY. WE WANT TO KEEP IT INJURE MAIN TO THE WOULD YOU BE OKAY IF WE HOLD THAT? >>COUN. GROUT: SURE. THAT'S FINE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MY APOLOGIES. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S POLICY, THE FIRST AMENDMENT DIDN'T CREATE A STUDY OR COME BACK WITH IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT. I BELIEVE IT CLEARLY IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOES THE SAME THING. I BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION WAS CHARACTERIZING THAT WRONG AS WELL. THAT ACTUALLY CREATED THE POLICY. THIS IS A POLICY STATEMENT IN THESE AMENDMENTS THAT THIS COUNCIL IS MAKING. THE FACT YOU GAVE THEM MORE TIME TO GIVE A STUDY DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT POLICY. THIS IS A POLICY AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. I THINK, WE TOOK IT FROM A POLICY OF A PASS SYSTEM WHEN WE TURNED THAT INTO A STUDY. IT'S NOT AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IT'S A STUDY. I WOULD BE OPEN TO IF IT THIS TRULY WAS A TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT THE IMPLICATION WOULD BE, GIVE IT TO THE OFFICE OF INCLUSION AND EQUITY TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT TREATING ANYBODY UNFAIRLY, BUT NOT THE POLICY OF THIS COUNCIL TO JUST DECLARE THAT YOU CAN SELF-SERVE AND YOU CAN BE A PART OF OUR SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE. WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT ARE GIVEN THAT SERVICE. I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION MISUNDERSTOOD THAT FIRST AMENDMENT TOO. THIS BILL PASSES AS AMENDED THAT'S THE POLICY OF THIS COUNCIL. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO RETURN TO THE SPONSOR TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT PASSED, THAT SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROCESS OF SELF-CERTIFICATION. WHEN WE WET THE ADMINISTRATION ON FRIDAY IT WAS CLEAR THAT THEIR INTENTION WAS NOT TO COME BACK WITH A STUDY THAT PROVIDED A MEANS ON HOW TO DO THIS SELF-CERTIFICATION. IT CAME BACK SAYING THE SELF-CERTIFICATION STUDY WOULD SHOW SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THEY HAVE. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT PROVIDE FOR SELF-CERTIFICATION. AND REALLY, IF YOU SEE PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE SUN VAN, YOU AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND SELF-CERTIFY. I THINK IT'S REALLY LIBERATING. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE DISABLED COMMUNITY. THE YOUNG MAN SPEAKING EARLIER ABOUT GIVING HIM THE FREEDOM TO DO MORE THINGS THIS IS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO. I WAS VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT US AS A COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO CREATE CHANGE. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY AND THE FREE FARES BUT REALLY GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU KNEW OR IF YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE HAS THE CHALLENGES OF RIDING SUN VAN CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS THEY HAVE TO ENDURE IN ORDER TO RIDE THE SUN VAN FOR ONE RIDE A DAY IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING. AND HEARING ALL THE ADVOCATES AND EVERYBODY SPEAKING IN TERMS OF REALLY ADDRESSING THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, THIS IS MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE SUN VAN TWICE. THERE'S A PROCESS AND WAIT TIME. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BUT YOU HAVE A WINDOW. YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING AND YOU HAVE A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT YOU HAVE A WINDOW OF A HALF HOUR OR 45 MINUTES TO WAIT FOR THE SUN VAN. WHEN IT PICKS YOU UP THEY CAN TAKE YOU TO OTHER STOPS WHILE THEY'RE PICKING UP OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET YOU TO YOUR APPOINTMENT. SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOUR -- YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE THERE IN ADVANCE. IF YOU'RE LATE FOR DOCTORS APPOINTMENT THEY REP SCHEDULE. WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE APPOINTMENT YOU NEED LEEWAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THAT HALF-HOUR OR WHATEVER IT IS BEFORE -- YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT. WHEN YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT IS OVER, YOU GIVE THAT LEEWAY BECAUSE IF THE SUN VAN COMES WHILE YOU HAVEN'T LEFT THE DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT THEY'RE GONE. AND YOU HAVE TO CALL -- I HAVE BEEN WITH SOMEONE WHO I USED CARE FOR WALKING THEM TO TRY TO FIND A BUS AND FIND WHERE THEY THERE WAS SIDE WALK TO GET THEM TO A BUS TO GET THEM BACK HOME. IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN NOW SAY HEY, RIDERSHIP IS GOING TO BE UP. IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR THE SUN VAN DEPARTMENT NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABUSING THE SYSTEM BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY HEY, I WANT TO GO TO MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT BUT I CAN ACTUALLY FILL IN A TIME TO GO PICK UP MY PRESCRIPTION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE WERE TOLD SPECIFICALLY, THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THE MEETING THAT THE STUDY WAS GOING TO BE TO COME BACK TO SAY IT WAS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT. I DID SAY THAT WE NEEDED AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THIS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AN EFFECTIVE DATE. IT'S GOING TO BE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF WHEN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN COMES TO US AND WE'LL PUT IT INTO EFFECT. WE ALREADY SAID WE'RE GOING TO SELF-CERTIFY. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ALONG WITH THAT, WE WOULD. WE'LL DEFER AND WAIT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE IT IS GOING TO WORK FOR EVERYONE. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-4 VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. THAT MATTER PASSES. AND THAT'S TWO OUT OF NINE. HERE WE GO. ON A ROLL. ITEM C IS GOING TO BE ALSO COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ARE YOU GOING TO CARRY THIS? >>COUN. PEÑA: YOUR NAME IS FIRST. I THINK THIS IS YOURS. ON PAGE NINE AFTER LINE 30 INSERT THE FOLLOWING THE TACTICAL PLAN SHALL REVIEW KICK QUICKLY IMPLEMENTABLE WAYS AND MEANS TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING, STATE OF REPAIR OF THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT ROLLING BUS STOP, SHELTERS AND STATIONS TO PROVIDE AN ATTRACTIVE VENUE THAT ENCOURAGING THE LEGITIMATE AND LAW-ABIDING USE OF FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENT. AND THE EXPLANATION IS THIS IS IN A COMPONENT TO IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF BUS STOPS AND TRANSIT FACILITIES TO ENHANCE SECURITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANYTHING FURTHER? SELF-EX-PLANATORY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR LEWIS AND THE ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS A STUDY OR IS THIS AN IMPLEMENTATION? SERIOUS, WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY THIS DEPARTMENT HAS. WE FUNDED YOU GUYS WITH SO MUCH MONEY. ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THIS CLEANER OR JUST STUDY? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL, IS THAT YOU OR THE DIRECTOR? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE ATTEMPT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS TO MAKE THESE STOPS AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. WITH A TACTICAL PLAN, MY ASSUMPTION IS WE WILL PROBABLY COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR STAFF AND EQUIPMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE STATIONS IN A FASTER, IF YOU WILL, TIME FRAME. WE HAVE -- I THINK DIRECTOR CAN DESCRIBE HOW MANY CREWS WE HAVE TODAY. AND HOW CHALLENGING THAT IS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. RIGHT NOW SOLID WASTE TAKES CARE OF THE CORRIDOR AND ART CORRIDOR. AS PART OF KEEPING THE ART STATIONS GOING. WE HAVE ASKED DMD AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WHENEVER ANY OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE OUT IN THE CORRIDORS IF THEY SEE TRASH CANS THAT ARE FULL, PICK THEM UP. THE IDEA THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE PART OF THE WORK AROUND ALL THESE ISSUES. THESE ARE VERY CHALLENGING ISSUES FOR US TO WORK THROUGH. I DON'T WANT TO PPRE-DETERMINE THE TACTICAL PLAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: I HAVE A PRESENTLY AMENDMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THE WORD REVIEW. CHANGE IMPLEMENTABLE TO IMPLEMENT. I THINK THAT'S A START. TURNING IT FROM A STUDY TO IMPLEMENTABLE PLAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: WOULD YOU READ THE FIRST SENTENCE? >>COUN. LEWIS: RATHER THAN SAYING IT SHALL REVIEW QUICKLY IMPLEMENTABLE WAY, IT WILL SAY THE TACTICAL PLAN SHALL QUICKLY IMPLEMENT WAYS AND MEANS TO IMPROVE THE CLEANLINESS, LIGHTING, STATE OF REPAIR. THAT'S A START. >>COUN. DAVIS: STAFF CAPTURED THE RECOMMENDED FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT WILL MAKE IT THE POLICY THAT THE -- WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN THESE STOPS UP? >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. THAT WILL BE THE NEW LANGUAGE. BACK ON DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T WANT TO TURN THIS INTO A BUDGET CONVERSATION. I'M ABOUT TO. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S A COLLECTIVE EFFORT IN THE CITY DEPARTMENT TO CLEAN TRASH CANS. THAT'S GREAT. WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO PITCH IN. WHILE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, IF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE REQUEST FOR STAFF AND THIS IS JUST BLANKET STATEMENT FOR EVERYTHING AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE BUT SINCE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, LET'S KEEP IT REALISTIC IF WE CAN STAFF IT. IF THERE'S ALREADY A WHOLE BUNCH OF VACANCIES LET'S NOT SAY WE NEED 20 MORE ON TOP OF THE 30 OR WHAT NOT. AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THERE IS AN EVALUATION IF THIS COLLECTIVE EFFORT IS WORKING AND IF THAT'S GOOD. I'M NOT ASKING FOR A STUDY. PLEASE EVALUATE IT WHEN YOU'RE PROPOSING THE BUDGET THAT IS THIS COLLECTIVE EFFORT WORKING AMONG OTHER DEPARTMENTS UTILIZING THEIR FUNDING SOURCE THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TOTHEM, OR DO WE NEED TO COLLECTFLY ADJUST THE BUDGET IN THOSE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS? RATHER THAN JUST SAY OKAY TRANSIT NEEDS MORE. IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TRANSIT MORE THEN I EXPECT TRANSIT TO DO MORE. IF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE PARTICIPANT IN SOME OF THIS LET'S RESPECT THAT AND BALANCE IT OUT. HOPEFULLY THAT MADE SENSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL NODDED HIS HEAD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR WORDS TOHEART. I SIMPLY SAY THIS IS GOB GOING TO BE A REALLY CHALLENGING BUDGET YEAR. GIVEN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. I TRUST THAT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE A COMBINATION OF DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER AND POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AT A MINIMAL LEVEL TO HELP TRANSIT DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES. I THINK I CAN ASK OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ASK HOW MANY TRANSIT STOPS? >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR KEENER? A LOT. >> TO TALK ABOUT VACANCIES AND BUS STOP CONTAINERS. THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH YOU WE ONLY HAD ABOUT FOUR BUS STOP MAINTAINERS. TOTAL OF 11 POSITIONS. CURRENTLY I CAN REPORT BACK WE HAVE EIGHT OF THOSE POSITIONS FILLED. WE DID HAVE A POSTING CLOSE AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE 11 OF THOSE FILLED BY THE END OF THE MONTH. AND WE GOT GENTLY USED VEHICLES TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE. AND ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AS WELL. I HOPE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DENT IN THE CLENLILESS OF THE STOPS. AND THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS. I AGREE THAT THE CLEANLINESS HAS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT. AND MY STAFF IS VERY FOCUSED ON THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE BECAUSE I ASKED THE QUESTION AT THE LAST MEETING. IT'S STILL A LITTLE -- YOU WEREN'T THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME. THIS ISN'T DIRECTED AT YOU. AT THE TIME WE WERE TOLD AND I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER OF TRANSIT BUS STOP CLEANERS. I THINK IT WAS SIX AND WE ADDED THROUGH AN AMENDMENT THAT I HAD PUT IN ADDED THREE FTEs WHICH WAS GOING TO BRING IT TO A TOTAL OF NINE. SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR IT NOW. AT THE TIME THAT WAS THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN. THOSE THREE WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON CENTRAL. TO HEAR YOU'VE ONLY HAD FOUR, I DON'T KNOW, TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AS COUNCILOR BASSAN WAS SAYING, I DON'T KNOW THE BUDGET ITEM, IT'S AS THOUGH THOSE THREE FTEs WE'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE BUS STOP CLEANERS. YOU WURNALITY YOU WEREN'T THE DIRECTOR, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON HIRING FOLKS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB SO I'M GOING TO SEND THEM TO YOU. IT SEEMS THIS IS PARAMONTH. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ADDING SECURITY OFFICERS ON THE BUSES AND LOOKING AT WHERE, MYSELF AND COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHERE AT THE BUS STOPS. MY HUSBAND RIDES, AND THEY'RE PRETTY BAD. YOU FEEL UNSAFE. NOT ONLY ON OTHER ISSUES THAT SURROUND YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM NUMBER THREE? SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR MADAM DIRECTOR. HOW MANY BUS STOPS ARE THESE FOUR MAINTENANCE CREWS ABLE TO CLEAN IN A DAY? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, SO WE HAVE EIGHT BUS STOP MAINTAINERS. AS FAR AS HOW MANY THEY HIT, I DON'T HAVE IT AT THE TOP OF HIGH MY HEAD, BUT I CAN GET IT TO YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET AROUND 2800. >> SOME PARTS OF THE CITY WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ISSUES WITH. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THESE. CENTRAL HAS A LOT OF RIDERSHIP. YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH AND CLEANING UP AREAS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT THREE? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. THE FRIENDLY TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. NEXT UP IS ITEM D. WHICH WE'LL CALL FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR BY MYSELF, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR PEÑA. THERE'S A PATTERN BUT THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT ORDERS. DELETE LINES EIGHT AND IS A. AND ALSO DELETE 22 THROUGH 27 AND RENUMBER. THE REASON FOR THE CHANGES, I'LL EXPLAIN. THIS DELETES THE WHEREAS CLAUSES FOR THE ZERO FARE FOR ART AND SUN VAN WHICH ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN A STAND ALONE ORDINANCE. IT DELETES SECTION ONE FROM THE THIRD FLOOR SUBSTITUTE AND REPLACES WHICH IS ORDINANCE 71. PERMANENTLY DESIGNATING THEM AS ZERO FARE. IT ALLOWS THEM TO BE DEFERRED WHILE THE ANALYSIS REQUIRED BY THE FTA WHICH WE'VE LEARNED TOO MUCH ABOUT IS COMPLETED WITHOUT DELAYING THE ADOPTION OF THE PROIVATIONS IN THIS BILL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU. FOR THOSE FOLLOWING LONG CONFUSED AT HOME. WE'RE NOT STOPPING ZERO FARE BEFORE I GET 300 EMAILS. WE HAVE A STAND ALONE BILL BUT WE'RE DOING IT IN A TIMELINE THAT REQUIRES THE COMPLETION OF THE REQUIRED FEDERAL STUDY SO WE DON'T DELAY THE SECURITY AND OTHER PROVISIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSIT IN HERE. AND WE'RE PASSING THE READY FOR TODAY AND SET THE NEXT UP FOR ANOTHER BILL AS SOON AS THAT STUDY IS BACK. THAT IS THE POINT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE EXPLANATION. I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO BE CONFUSED. THESE AMENDMENTS AREN'T REALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS OFTEN. QUESTIONS ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR? SEEING NONE. ANY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? IF THERE ARE NONE WE'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: -- >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP IS ITEM E IN YOUR PACKET. NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS THE FIRST OF OUR AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SECURITY. AND SO LET ME READ THIS IN. SPONSORED BY MYSELF COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. THERE'S A REVISED VERSION THAT -- WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY GETS THAT. WOULD YOU MAKE SURE DIANE GETS ONE OF THOSE. THE ADMINISTRATION GETS ANXIOUS WHEN WE PASS THINGS OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND THEY DON'T GET ONE. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THIS. PAGE FOUR LINE 23 THIS DIRECTS THE DRAEGZ TO DEVELOP AND TRANSMIT INTO 60 DAYS ANOTHER DEADLINE TO FORMALIZE THE MISSION RESPONSIBILITIES AND AUTHORITY OF MET RO SECURITY DIVISION. IT INCLUDES THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND TRESS PASS NOTICE AND INPUT RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND IT WILL INCLUDE TIMELINE FOR NEGOTIATION TRAINING AND IMPLEMENTATION THAT INCLUDES LANGUAGE FOR UPDATES TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCE. HERE'S WHAT THIS DOES AND COUNCILOR GROUT HAS THE FIRST COMMENT ON THIS. AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, LET ME SAY THIS, I'LL MOVE FLOOR NUMBER FIVE IF THERE'S A SECOND. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT. SECURITY IS THE REALLY THE CATALYST FOR THIS BILL AS COUNCILOR LEWIS AND COUNCILOR PEÑA STARTED IT AS WE BROUGHT OTHER PIECES. WHAT WE'VE COME TO IS WE REALLY WANT TO BE SURE THAT FOLKS RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING OUR RIDERS CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT HAVE AS MANY TOOLS AS WE CAN TO DO THAT WITH THE ENFORCEMENT ABILITY THAT THE FOLKS -- THAT THE BAD GUYS KNOW WHEN THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE TO HELP THEM ENFORCE THEM TO CREATE STANDARD. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS HOW DO WE KNOW IF NUMBER IS BANNED FROM THE BUS. CAN THEY WRITE A CITATION. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S SECURITY OFFICERS WHO WORK ON OUR BUSES THAT DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. THIS IS DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO THEY'RE NOT SIMPLY NOTE-TAKERS OR OBSERVERS BUT REALLY HAVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE BASIC CITATIONS LIKE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. WE REALIZE THAT COMES WITH EXTRA TRAINING AND EXTRA PROVISIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS IS A POLICY DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. ASSUMING IT PASSES. THAT PUTS IN PLACE A SECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PERSONNEL ABLE TO ENFORCE ALL THE THINGS WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT. THAT'S MY LONG, DRAWNING OUT PIECE. COUNCILOR GROUT YOU STARTED EARLIER FOR THE DIRECTOR AND MR. ROGERS FOR SECURITY IS HERE. I'LL LET YOU GET STARTED AND WE'LL TAKE OTHER COUNCILORS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MS. KEEF, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON MAKING METRO SECURITY OFFICERS, SWORN PEACE OFFICERS, WILL THAT INCREASE THE CITY'S LIABILITY IN ANY WAY? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I WANT TO CLARIFY, I DON'T READ THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE METRO SECURITY SWORN OFFICERS, IT ATTEMPTS TO DEFINE THEM AS PEACE OFFICERS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SAME. I THINK MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IT DOES. I'M SURE CLASSIFYING THEM AS PEACE OFFICERS, WHAT THAT IMPLICATION IS. THERE'S VARIOUS STAT STATUTE THAT USE THE TERM PEACE OFFICER. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNCLEAR WHETHER THEY APPLY TO THIS DIVISION OR NOT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. PEACE OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO CARRY BODY CAMERA. WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO CARRY BOD RUCAMERAS? THERE'S EMPLOYEE-EMPLOYER REQUIREMENT FOR PEACE OFFICERS UNDER STATE STATUTES WOULD THEY APPLY TO METRO SECURITY AND APD? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES THEM SWORN OFFICERS IN THE SENSE THEY NEED TO GO TOLAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY. >>COUN. DAVIS: FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION IF I CAN ASK THE COUNCILOR, I THINK THE ORIGINAL PEACE OFFICER DEFINITION IN THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY THIS LANGUAGE THAT USES THE CURRENT CITY ORDINANCES WE BELIEVE TO AALLOW THEM TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND TRESPASS NOTICES BUT DOESN'T USE THE PEACE OFFICER LANGUAGE. IT'S DESIGNED TO AVOID SOME OF THE CONCERNS. >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IT ELIMINATES THE PEACE OFFICER LANGUAGE AND GETS WAYS TO ALLOW THEM TO ISSUE CITATIONS WITHOUT MAKING THEM PEACE OFFICERS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK SO. HAVE WE TALKED TO THE METRO SECURITY AND THE GUARDS WE HAVE ON THE BUSES? WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS? >> I BELIEVE MR. RAEL CAN ADDRESS THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I'LL HAVE MR. ROGERS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. ROGERS, TO TALK ABOUT HOW WELL WE FEEL ABOUT THIS. AT ANY POINT I THINK THIS TO BE CLEAR ANY TIME WE HAVE SECURITY, POLICE, ANY INTERACTIONS ON ESPECIALLY THIS THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE OF LIABILITY ISSUE OCCURRING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THERE MIGHT BE LIABILITY ISSUE. THERE ALWAYS ARE IN THESE INSTANCES. WHETHER THEY'RE GIVING CITATIONS ORDOING WORK ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. I WANT TO MAKE IS SURE YOU GOT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. MR. ROGERS CAN TELL YOU WHAT CONVERSATIONS HE'S HAD WITH STAFF. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, NO, WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH THEM. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SPECIFICS. WE WERE HOLDING THAT IN RESERVE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE TALKING TO SOME OF THE FOLKS AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING. WE'VE RECEIVED A FEW EMAILS FROM FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY I RAISED THE QUESTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. I MEAN, I'M A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I SEE A LOT OF LIABILITY ISSUES JUST AS MR. RAEL BROUGHT UP. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SECURITY YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, LEVEL ONE, JUST A SECURITY GUARD LEVEL TWO IS ARMED BUT NOT WITH A GUN, LEVEL THREE ACTUALLY HAS A FIREARM. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE -- YOU ACTUALLY ARE ARE IMPLEMENTING USE OF FORCE IN THIS SCENARIO. WHAT IS THE TRAINING SCENARIO. ARE THEY GOING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY? DOES THE LEA BOARD AGREE WITHUTS GOING ON? WILL THEY CERTIFY THESE INDIVIDUALS AS OFFICERS? DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE STATE CERTIFICATION TEST? ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN REALLY QUICKLY ON THE LIABILITY SIDE. AND REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE INDIVIDUALS WEARING A UNIFORM AND WEARING A BADGE OF OFFICE AND CARRYING A GUN OR MACE. OR JUST BEING A SECURITY GUARD WITH A UNIFORM ON. WHAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS MISTAKEN FOR SOMEBODY WHO USUALLY WEARS A GUN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD DEADLY FORCE AND YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT FORCE AND YOU DON'T? THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A MASSIVE -- AND SOMEONE ELSE LOSES THEIR LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE THREE STAGES OF SECURITY GUARD. I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH ENOUGH TO EVEN VOTE ON IT. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS IN MY MIND THAT NEED TO BE SORTED OUT BEFORE WE START GIVING THESE INDIVIDUALS POLICE POWERS. IF WE'RE ASKING THEM TO FILL OUT CITATIONS AND ISSUE CITATIONS, THEN I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THE FIRST THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHEN SOMEBODY IS ISSUING A CITATION AND YOU ASK A NAME AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY WHO ARE YOU. AND THE NEXT STAGE IS YOU GIVE THEM A DIRECT ORDER TO COMPLY AND GET OFF THE BUS OR STOP FIGHTING OR HOW ARE YOU GOT DEAL WITH THAT? AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN A USE OF FORCE SITUATION. IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT BASED ON THE SELF-INDUCED JEOPARDY WE MIGHT GET INTO, MASSIVE LIABILITY. I THINK THIS IS NOT THOUGHT THOROUGHLY THROUGH. JUST LIKE COUNCILOR GROUT IS REFERRING TO, I'M WORRIED THAT THE METRO SECURITY OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THEMSELVES IN SELF-INDUCED JEOPARDY AND BE IN A POSITION WHERE IF THEY'RE NOT FULLY TRAINED WE MIGHT HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT COULD JPERDIZE THEIR CAREERS, SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE AND MAYBE BUS DRIVERS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUS LOADED WITH PEOPLE. IF AN INCIDENT HAPPENS WITHIN THOSE BUSES IT'S MOVING. MANY PEOPLE CAN GET INJURED. MANY PEOPLE CAN GET KILLED. WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF I CAN RESPOND AND SAY I UNDERSTAND YOU, AND MY EQUAL CONCERN IS I'M GOING TO POINT OUT AND EMBARRASS THE OFFICERS HERE. AT ONE POINT WHEN WE HAD CITY SECURITY THEY DROVE AROUND LITTLE PICK UP TRUCKS AND HAD LIGHT BLUE SHIRTS DISTINGUISHABLE FROM APD. NOW THEY'RE IN FULL BLUES JUST LIKE POLICE OFFICERS AND WEARING DUTY BELTS WITH MACE AND HANDCUFFS THE ONLY DISTINCTION I CAN TELL IS THEY DON'T HAVE A FIREARM AND THAT'S NOT EASILY DISTINGUISHABLE, MY CONCERN IS THAT BY COMBINING ALL OF OUR SECURITY FORCES THAT USED TO BE IN OUR FACILITIES, FACILITY SECURITY, PUTTING THEM TOGETHER GIVING THEM A UNIFORM THAT RESEMBLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISPATCHING THEM INTO THE PUBLIC IN THE WILD OF THE SUTTEE WITH NO ENFORCEMENT POWER, I'M EQUALLY WORRIED THEY'RE ON THE BUSES WITH SOMETHING HAPPENING AND THERE'S A BUS LOAD OF GOOD PEOPLE LOOKING TO THEM DOING SOMETHING AND THE LEAST THEY CAN DO IS SAY PLEASE STOP BECAUSE THEY CAN'T INTERVENE. WE'RE PUTTING OUR SECURITY OFFICERS AT RISK AND GIVING THEM ZERO ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE RULE. THEY HAVE NO MORE POWER, NO OFFENSE, THAN MR. MINICUCCI, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE PRESENT. WE GIVE THEM THE APPEARANCE OF THAT AND THERE IS AN OPTION FOR THEM IN THE LAW TO HAVE THAT ABILITY THAT THE MAYOR CAN PRESCRIBE FOR THEM TO ENFORCE ORDINANCES. OTHERWISE, I THINK WE MAKE THEM, AND I SEE OUR DIRECTOR, WE TURN THEM INTO COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICERS AND HAVE THEM HELPING PEOPLE GET FROM PLACES. WE SHOULD NOT PRETEND THEY'RE SECURITY. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN RULE. AND WE'RE STICKING THEM OUT THEREBY THEMSELVES, WE'RE DISPATCHING THEM TO DISTURBANCES WHERE SOMEONE IS NOT LISTENING TO A BUS DRIVER. WE HEARD OUR DIRECTOR AND SECURITY OFFICER. THE PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICER CAN'T GET SOMEONE TO LISTEN SO THEY CALL THE CITY SECURITY WHO HAS NO MORE POWER. WHAT GOOD IS THAT GOING TO DO? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: DO WE HAVE IN PLACE AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHOSE GONE THROUGH YEARS OF WORKING THEIR HIRING STANDARDS, YEARS OF REFORM. GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE SITUATIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY UPSET AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET A SECURITY OFFICER WHO MAKES A DECISION AND THAT DECISION IS A DECISION WHERE IT ACTUALLY HURTS SOMEONE OR SOMEONE IS HURT BECAUSE OF THEIR DECISION? THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY THINK ABOUT IS WHAT WILL THE SOP SAY? WHAT WILL THE JUDGE SAY? WHAT WILL HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS SAY THAT LITIGATE THIS WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY CALLING THEM PEACE OFFICERS? WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE? ARE WE GOING TO ARM THEM WITH BODY CAMERAS? I THINK WE NEED TO READJUST THE SITUATION SO WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR ROLE WOULD BE. WE DON'T WANT TO SEND OFFICERS OUT THERE. THE POLICE OFFICERS ALREADY HAVE ISSUES DEALING THE SAME SCENARIOS DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN REFERENCE TO USE OF FORCE SITUATIONS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRAIN THESE INDIVIDUALS SO HEY CAN DO THEIR JOB IN A MANNER THAT WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD? WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST LINE EVERYBODY UP AND SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY AND BRING THEM OUT AND HAVE THE SAME KIND OF TRAINING AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO. THEN, IF THEY'RE ALREADY TRAIN WE NEED TO PUT THEM ON THE STREET AND MAYBE WE HAVE MORE OFFICERS PAY THEM THE OFFICER SALARY. IT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY CONCERNING THAT WE HAVE -- THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS PATH AFTER TRYING TO DEAL WITH YEARS OF REFORM ON THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I RECOGNIZE MYSELF TO RESPOND AND WE NEED TO TENGSD THE MEETING. I UNDERSTAND AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS REPLACES PEACE OFFICER LANGUAGE TO ELIMINATE THE CONCERN OR THE IMPLICATION THEY'RE STATE CERTIFIED. THIS LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE ASKED ABOUT. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE JOB OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE THE SOP FOR TRAINING AND DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF PROCEDURES ARE REQUIRED OR TRAINING IS REQUIRED OR WHAT TYPE OF CITATION IS REQUIRED. WHAT I DO KNOW IS CURRENTLY AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH WHERES WE'VE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION FRIDAY AND WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SAY AND REMEMBER WHEN THE FIRST TIME SOME OF THE SECURITY OFFICERS HAD A LITTLE MORE LEAD WAY AND NOT ENOUGH TRAINING IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK SOME OF THE UNION'S OPINION AS WELL, WE HAD SCARY ENCOUNTERS REALLY QUICKLY. WE PULLED BACK FROM THAT. AND SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM DO THAT ANYMORE. I THINK THE RIGHT ANSWER IS WE NEED TO GET THE RIGHT ANSWERS TOGETHER. WE HAVE A GOOD MODEL FROM THE APD PROCESS. I DON'T THINK -- I THINK THIS SAYS GO DO THAT. TELL WAS ALL THOSE ANSWERS BUT IN 60 DAYS JUST LIKE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WE'VE DONE EARLIER SO WE CAN PICK IT APART ASK MAKE SURE WE FELL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. IF WE DON'T DO THIS WE'RE IN DANGER OF PUTTING CITY EMPLOYEES IN DANGER. WHEN FOLKS KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POUR. IF WE DECIDE THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WE NEED TO GIVE THEM TRAINING. THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IN THAT REGARD. LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK WHICH IS 30 MINUTES AFTER NORMAL END TIME. THERE'S USUALLY A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN -- PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE. AND FEEL LIKE I CUT YOU OFF. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK I MADE MY POINT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS AMENDMENT BEFORE WE GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW THEY HAVE THOUGHTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I AGREE WITH SECTION FIVE. I THINK REALLY WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS MAKE A STUDY? WE'RE STUDYING IT. SECTION FIVE WAS AN IMPLEMENTED PLAN WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT AND THIS AMENDMENT TURNS IT INTO A REVIEW AND STUDY AND COME BACK? >>COUN. DAVIS: THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SECURITY HAS SOME SECURITY AUTHORITY. BRING THIS BACK A PLAN FOR HOW TO DO THAT. YOU'RE CORRECT. >>COUN. LEWIS:RIGHT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHING ELSE FROM ADMINISTRATION ON THIS ONE? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. NEXT UP IS -- THIS IS GOING TO BE DATA GATHERING, IS THAT CORRECT? GREAT. THAT'S SIX. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. MYSELF, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. E WAS PART OF THAT. THAT WAS IN E AS WELL. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. LET ME CATCH UP. WE'RE BACK ON F WHICH IS NUMBER SIX. THIS IS ON PAGE EN LINE FIVE. METRO SECURITY DIVISION ASKED FOR DATA TO MOVE TO DECEMBER 30th. THEY DO NOT HAVE ADKWKT DATA TRACKING. AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON WITH GSD. IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THAT ENABLING A FUNCTIONAL AND ACCURATE SECURITY TRACKING PROCESS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? OTHER THAN DEPARTMENT WANTS MORE MONEY TO DO IT. WE'LL WORK ON THAT IN BUDGET. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: JES. -- YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILORS, ITEM D IS NUMBER SEVEN. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. ON PAGE SEVEN LINE 20 AFTER THE WORD DEPARTMENT INSERT THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. INSERT THE TACTICAL PLAN SHALL UNDER GO ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE IF THE PLAN WILL ADVERSELY OR TARGET PERSONS UNFAIRLY. ON PAGE 8 LINE 25 AFTER THE WORD SERVICES INSERT OFFICE OF WEEK ATY AND INCLUSION. INSERT THE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE PUBLIC OUTREACH TO ALL THOSE ESPECIALLY TRANSIT USERS AND PERSONS WITH BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS NEAR BUS STOP AND STATIONS AND THE PLAN SHALL UNDERGO ANALYSIS. IT WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT TARGETS OR ON PAGE NINE, DELETE MAY 1, 2023 AND REPLACE WITH MARCH 1, 2024. THESE ARE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCLUDING PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE LONG-TERM PLAN AND MAKING SURE THERE'S A REVIEW THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DEVELOPED DO NOT UNFAIRLY AFFECT SOME FOLKS MORE THAN OTHERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND. ANY QUESTION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? I THINK NOT. CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, ITEM H. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE NUMBER EIGHT. ON PAGE TWO AFTER THE WORD INCIDENTS DELOET THE WORDS ONLY TO INCREASE AND REPLACE WITH DEFUND. DELETE THE WORD ANY. ON PAGE FOUR DELETE LINE ONE AND REPLACE WITH GENERAL FUND AND REVENUES. DELETE THE WORDS IN SECTION 9, 10 11 12. ON PAGE 11 LINE 15 RENUMBER THE SECTIONS TO FOLLOW IN NUMERICAL ORDER. THIS IS -- I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER, BUT THIS IS JUST CLEAN UP LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND IN THE ORIGINAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PERFECT FOR THE FINAL VERSION. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHING DIFFERENT? THAT'S GREAT. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? MR. RAEL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I GUESS I WOULD SAY TO THE COUNCIL AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL PASS, WHENEVER WE SITE A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT AND ELIMINATE AND NOT CITE OTHERS, IT CREATES A CHALLENGE OPERATIONALLY. HERE WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSIT VEHICLE OPERATORS AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SECURITY FOLKS THAT WE SPENT MOST OF THE FOLKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE IN UNION NEGOTIATIONS. AND ALL OF THE REPRESENTED GROUPS. I GET WHAT THE COUNCIL'S INTEREST IS AS IT RELATES TO ENSURING WE GIVE THE RIGHT COMPENSATION FOR EMPLOYEES. WHENEVER WE PASS LEGISLATION THAT SPECIFICALLY CITES ONE GROUP, I THINK IT SETS A BAD POLICY PERSPECTIVE FOR THE CITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN AND BACK TO THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DO THINK THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF SEEING THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF SOMETHING BEING VERY SPECIFIC AND NEEDING TO HAVE IT SWITCHED OVER FOR SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF KNOWN INTENTION, WHAT WOULD BE ANOTHER PERSON OR EMPLOYEE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THIS FUNDING WITHOUT IT BEING TOO SPECIFIC? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK MAYBE THE INTENT IS JUST MIGHT BOW BETTER SERVED FOR THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT AND LEFT IT AT THAT LEVEL. RECOGNIZING THIS IS OUR INTEREST AND YOUR CONCERN. IT FEELS LIKE AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A PROBABLY TRANSIT DEDICATED SECURITY GROUP. I DON'T WANT TO PRE-JUDGE WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF TACTICAL PLAN. I CAN SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT GROUP. I WOULD PREFER IT WE SOMETHING MORE BROAD. I KNOW THESE ARE THE FOLKS ON THE FRONT LINE. AND THEY DESERVE THE CAMPBSATION THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS. KEEP IN MIND PEOPLE THAT CLEAN BUS STOPS ARE ALSO CONFRONTED WITH LOTS OF FOLKS ON THE STREET. HAVING TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF A BUS STOP BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT AND THEY WON'T BELIEVE. OR YOU HAVE SECURITY GUARDS WHO ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME OF THE WORK. I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IN THE RIGHT MESSAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT AND OPERATIONS AND NOT ONE SPECIFICALLY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IS THERE SOME LANGUAGE THAT -- OKAY. IS THERE SOME LANGUAGE THAT COULD WORK THAT -- WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IS MAKING SURE THE FUNDS GO TO THE FOLKS WORKING IN THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TO ADMINISTRATION OR NONMANAGERERIAL POSITIONS. WE NEED FOLKS WORKING IN THE BUSES. IF YOU HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST I'D BE OPEN TO THAT. I DON'T WANT IT TO GO FOR MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION. >> IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, LET ME CONSULT WITH SEE HOW THAT -- IT MAY BE TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND NOT -- AND KNOW WE'RE EXCLUDING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN, MY APOLOGIES IF WE CUT YOU OFF. I WAS GOING BACK TO THE SPONSOR IF SHE LIKED YOUR LANGUAGE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WITH WHAT MR. RAEL WAS SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO READ TEA LEAFS, I'LL WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE READ AND DO THE FANCY MANAGEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO DO. AND THE REVIEWS HAVE ALL BEEN PROPOSED AND PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS A CLEAN UP AMENDMENT, WHY DON'T WE JUST EVERY WORD MENTIONED TRANSVEHICLE OPERATOR SALARY AND CHANGE IT TO TRANSIT OPERATION SALARIES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION. THAT GIVES THE DEPARTMENT JUST FOR THE OPERATIONS OF PARA-TRANSIT AND TRANSIT AND MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY. THAT FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF OPERATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: I ASK CLERK AND STAFF TO CAPTURE THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW AND SEEING WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOU IN JUST A FEW MINUTE. WOULD YOU PREFER WE TABLE OR MOVE TO THE OTHERS? >> WE'RE READY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNSELING, ON PAGE THREE LINE 29 AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE IT SAYS MOTOR COACH OPERATORS, PARA-TRANSIT OPERATES , THAT'S SCRIBED FOR TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AND ON THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE ON PAGE THREE LINE 31 AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE. TRANSIT AND MOTOR COACH. AND PARA-TRANSIT OPERATORS. THAT'S TRANSIT OPERATIONS SALARIES. AND THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING THE AMENDMENT YOU'RE SEEKING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, IF WE COULD ALSO PUT COMMA MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY. SO WE HAVE TRANSIT -- AND THEN MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY. WHICH TO COUNCILOR LEWIS'S POINT FALLS UNDER OPERATIONS. I GET YOU WANT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. >>COUN. DAVIS: GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO CATCH UP. SO WE DON'T FORGET TOMORROW. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WOULD CREATE THE LAUNDRY LIST HE'S REFERRING TO. TRANSIT OPERATORS, SECURITY AND MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL. THAT WOULD BE LINE 29 BEGINNING WITH LINE 30 AND END OF LINE 31. >>COUN. DAVIS: DOES THE SPONSOR -- ARE YOU OKAY WITH A TECHNICAL CHANGE? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I APPROVE OF THE CHANGE TO THE AMENDMENT AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER SPONSORS DO AS WELL. >>COUN. DAVIS: DO WE NEED A NEW AMENDMENT? EVERYBODY'S GOOD? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AS LONG AS THE SPONSORS ARE OKAY AND YOU CAN CHANGE THE MOTION AT THIS TIME WHICH YOU CAN. WE'VE NOTED THAT AND WILL BE IN THE VERSION WE SUBMIT FOR THE CLERK. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. OTHER QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I WAS GOING TO SAY RIGHT BEFORE, YOU BEAT ME TO IT THAT TIME. >>COUN. DAVIS: CALL THE ROLL ON FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: CAN YOU REMIND ME WHO WAS THE SECOND? COUNCILOR PEÑA OR MYSELF. WHOEVER YOU WOULD LIKE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, NUMBER NINE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT, AFTER LINE TEN INSORT THE FOLLOWING EXPENDITURES FOR FUNDS FOR PERSONNEL TRAINING OR EQUIPMENTTIAL BE THE FUNDS ALBUQUERQUE EMPLOYEE POSITIONS AND PURCHASE TRAINING MANAGED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND EQUIPMENT OWNED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. NUMBER TWO, ON PAGE 11, DELETE 250 AND REPLACE WITH 500. REASONS FOR THIS, WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY ALLOCATE FOR THE INCREASE TRANSIT SECURITY IS GOING TO CITY STAFF AND ALL THE ACTIVITIES NEEDED AROUND INCREASING ACTUAL SECURITY ON THE BUSES. AND THE ADMINISTRATION ASKED WE BUMP 250 TO 500 TO MAKE SURE TO DEVELOP ALL THE PLANS AND STUDIES OUTLINED IN THE REALLY LONG BILL. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> NARRATOR: >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A CLERKS CORRECTION, IT SAYS PERSONAL, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PERSONNEL. >>COUN. DAVIS: GOT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ALWAYS GOOD FOR THAT. OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMENTS OF ANYTHING FROM THE THE ADMINISTRATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S NEVER GOOD TO BE PERSONAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT'S LATE. NOW COUNCILOR BASSAN IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHERE IS THE EXTRA $250,000 COMING FROM? GENERAL FUND? >>COUN. DAVIS: IT WAS THE ADMINISTRATION'S QUESTION REQUEST. I'M SURE THEY KNOW. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE COMING FROM THE UNAPPROPRIATED FUND RESERVE OF THE GENERAL FUND. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOOD? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'RE BACK ON O-47 AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED. THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS. WE'LL OPEN THIS BACK UP FOR COMMENT. LET ME SAY THIS IS NOT AN EASY BILL TO DO. AS SOMEONE THAT MENTIONED, THIS IS A FRANKENSTEIN BILL OF TRANSIT. AND TRYING TO PRESERVE THE PIECES AND SETTING POLICY FOR WHERE WE WANT TO GO. PUTTING PLANS IN PLACE AND GET DETAIL AND DATA WE DON'T HAVE. AND PUTTING DEADLINES TO BRING THE INFORMATION BACK SO PEOPLE HAVE FAITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO EMBRACE AND MAKE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY. ALTHOUGH IT'S STILL FOR ALL ITS BRUISES IT'S STILL FOR A CITY OUR SIZE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE SYSTEM AND ONE THAT CAN GET BETTER. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR WORKING ON THIS. OTHER COUNCILOR AND WE'LL GO TO OTHER SPONSORS. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, JUST CLOSING REMARKS. I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMENTED ABOUT THIS BUS SYSTEM AND TONIGHT WE HEARD COMMENTS LIKE RIDERSHIP IS UP, CRIME IS DOWN, PEOPLE ARE GIVING UP TAKING THEIR CARS FOR THE BUS SYSTEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUS DRIVERS ARE HAPPY. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS CLEAN AND SAFE. IT SEEMS TO BE A SPIN ON OUR BUS SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK JUST COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IF WHAT THIS BILL DOES HOPEFULLY IS MAYBE CAUSED US TO TAKE A GOOD, HARD LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM AND LOOK AT SOME WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE IT, THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. RIDERSHIP IS CLEARLY NOT UP. IT'S UP FROM WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING AT THE -- DURING COVID. BUSES WERE SHUT DOWN. NOBODY WAS RIDING BUSES. THEY COULDN'T. WE'RE NOT UP IN RIDERSHIP. WE CANNOT SAY THAT RIDERSHIP IS UP AND SOMEHOW THE PILOT PROGRAM CAUSED THAT. WE HAVE VERY REAL STATISTICS THAT SHOW CRIME IS UP ON OUR BUSES RIGHT NOW AND HAS BEEN. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT HAS GIVEN UP TAKING THEIR CARS TO RIDE THIS BUS SYSTEM. NOBODY IS DOING THAT. NOBODY IS THROWING THEIR CAR INTEREST THE SAKE OF BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. THE BUS DRIVERS AREN'T HAPPY. BUS DRIVERS I'VE TALKED TO AREN'T HAPPY. NOBODY IS PROUD OF THE BUS SYSTEM. IT'S NOT CLEAN, IT'S NOT SAFE. AGAIN, SOMEHOW THERE'S THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE COUNCIL AND SHARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY THAN REALITY. TONIGHT, WHAT THIS BILL, WITH THE AMENDMENTS WE PASSED TONIGHT, WE REALLY TURNED EVERYTHING INTO A STUDY. WHAT WE DIDN'T TURN INTO A STUDY WAS SELF-CERTIFYING OF QUALIFICATION FOR SUN VAN. THAT'S AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. WE ARE NOT DOING A STUDY ON PERMANENT FREE FARES FOR ART AND SUN VAN. EQUITY AND INCLUSION PLAN IS AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THIS BILL IS DOING. EVERYTHING ELSE IS A STUDY. AGAIN, I JUST HOPE THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BUS SYSTEM. MAYBE ONE DAY IT WILL BE A SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE GIVE UP CARS FOR. MAYBE ONE DAY IT WILL BE A SYSTEM THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY TELL MY KIDS THAT IT'S SAFE TO RIDE ON. I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW. IF I CAN'T DO THAT FOR MY OWN FAMILY I CAN'T TELL THE REST OF THE CITY OUR BUS SYSTEM IS SAFE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE OF ME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I HOPE THE DISCUSSION AND SOME OF THE ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN WILL IMPROVE IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER COUNCILORS AND SPONSORS? COUNCILOR PEÑA, ANY FINAL WORDS? >>COUN. PEÑA: I AM JUST EXCITED FOR THE SUN VAN RIDERS. I JUST WANT TO RERITATE, YOU CAN CALL IT THE FRANKENSTEIN BILL OR HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE COUNCILOR ON HERE FOR ALL INPUT AND REALLY WORKING TO MAKE THIS BILL, THREE SEPARATE BILLS, TURNING THEM INTO ONE BILL WITH COLLABORATION AND HARD WORK OF AMENDMENTS FROM SOME PEOPLE THAT AREN'T SPONSORS. COUNCILOR BASSAN ADDED SO MUCH TO THE BILL. I REALLY THINK WORKING TOGETHER, NONE OF US GOT EVERYTHING WE REALLY WANTED. BUT I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I GUESS TO COUNCILOR LEWIS'S POINT ABOUT IT, WE REALLY HAVE ISSUES ON OUR BUS SYSTEM. WHETHER IT'S CLEANLINESS OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE ARE NOT USING THE SYSTEM. I HOPE THAT I -- I HAVE HOPE THIS WILL TAKE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND THROUGH ALL THE STUDIES YOU MENTIONED HOPEFULLY ONCE THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED WE CAN CREATE LONG LANCING CHANGE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO REITERATE, I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO MENTION JUST HOW MANY COUNCILORS WORKED ON THIS BILL AND WORKED REALLY HARD AND IN GOOD FAITH. I AGREE NOT EVERYBODY -- NO ONE GOT EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ALL CHIPPED IN ON A BILL. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING FROM EVERYONE HERE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THIS BILL. WE'VE GOT SO MANY REITERATION. THIS KEEPS ZERO FARES IN PLACE UNTIL THE END OF THE PILOT PROGRAM WHICH IS A HUGE WIN FOR ALBUQUERQUE. IT PROVIDES BETTER ACCESS TO THE MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS BY ALLOWING SELF-CERTIFICATION. AND IT PROVIDES BETTER SECURITY FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN ALBUQUERQUE WHO RIDES THE BUS. I'M ONE OF THE FOLKS. I WILL BE A BENEFICIARY OF GETTING ON THE BUS AND HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT PERSONAL SECURITY. I LIKE THE RESULT OF THIS. I LIKE A FEW LESS STUDIES AND A FEW MORE IMPLEMENTATIONS I THINK IT'S A STRONG BILL THAT GETS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO COMMENT, UNLESS THE ADMINISTRATION -- >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY AS WE MOVE TO THESE STUDIES AND PLANS, THAT WE KEEP AN OPEN MIND THESE WILL HAVE SOME BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS AT SOME LEVEL. LOOK, THE ADMINISTRATION AND MAYOR SUPPORTS THE FREE FARE STUDY. WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN PART OF THE BUDGET APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL LAST MAY. SO, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS. I KNOW THAT THESE ALL BECOME VERY CHALLENGING ISSUES FOR ALL OF US AS WE TRY AND DO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO WHICH IS HAVE A GREAT TRANSIT SYSTEM. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. WE'LL SEE YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. SEEING NO COMMENTS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I THINK THAT'S IT. WE'RE GOOD. THERE BEING NO OTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.