>> I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT, OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE -- ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE ARE NONE. PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS. I THINK I HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD,. >> MAYOR, COUNCILMAN RICK RICCIAE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY AT THE LAST MEETING MADE AN APPOINTMENT OF BOB KERR AND THEN TABLED THE REMAINDER, NOW I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT PATRICIA JOHNSON AND GREG MILLER FOR THE TWO REMAINING APPOINTMENTS, AND ASK FOR CHAIR, HADEN PAGET AS CHAIR. >> Ricciardelli: SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE PARKS AND REC PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, AND CHAIR, ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES. 8-0. NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING HOME-ARP FUNDS, DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. >> ACTUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR MANAGER, SHANETTE EADEN, PINCH HIT FOR LAURIE SCHWARZ WHO IS UNDER THE WEATHER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL EXECUTIVES I'M SHANETTE EADEN, AND AM GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOME ARP. ALL GHT, SO HOME ARP, TOLD YOU LAST MONTH WE HAVE ABOUT $1.9 MILLION TO UTILIZE OUR HOME ARP FUNDS IN THE FOUR CATEGORIES ABOVE. WHERE YOU ALL HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU SAW THIS, REMEMBER THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR US TO USE IN THAT -- FOR THESE MONIES, THE INCOME LIMIT IS STATED -- HAS STAYED THE SAME, HUD STILL SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO ASSIST ANYBODY OR -- WE CAN ASSIST ANYBODY THAT HAS MORE THAN 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN IOME INHEIR BANK AT ANY GIVEN TIME, SO THAT MEANS A FAMILY OF FOUR, MAKING $77,900 IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN HELP ON THE INCOME RANGE, WE CAN ALSO RESTRICT IT MORE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. I'VE COVERED THIS, THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE SEEN THE LAST TIME, JUST KIND OF REMINDING YOU FOR THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, DURING COVID, WE HAD AN EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THROUGH THE USE OF US TREASURY FUNDS TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS, THE US TREASUR H US HELP ANYBODY THAT WAS 80% OR BELOW THAT. WE COULDN'T CHANGE THAT GUIDELINE. THEY DIDN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT. SO WE STUCK WITH THAT, FOR 12 MONTHS MAX, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS ON HERE, AS FAR AS HOW MUCH WE SPENT AND HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS WE HELPED. MOVING YOU BACK TOWARD SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR WHICH IS HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, WE HAVE A CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION FUND THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS HERE AT THE CITY, IT'S ALWAYS ADMINISTERED BY ANOTHER AGEY, JUST LIKE THE ERAP WAS, IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE ASSISTANCE CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY, SO YOU'VE GOT DATA HERE ON HOW WE SPENT THOSE MONEYS IN THE PAST, SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS LAST MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO KIND OF WHAT MY MARCHING ORDERS WERE. SO THE LAST MEETING YOU ALL SAID TO GO BACK AND TO SPEAK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTUALLY UTILIZED THEIR FUNDS FOR HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND DID I THAT. I DID THAT. I SPOKE TO FIVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, TWO OF WHICH WE'VE CONTRACTED OUT WITH IN THE PAST FOR, THE OTHER WE HAVEN'T, BUT WHEN THE CITY OF PLANO CAN'T USE -- CAN'T ASSIST SOMEONE, WE SEND THEM TO ONE OF THESE FOUR AGENCIES, SO I SPOKE TO THEM AND ASKED THEM THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL DISCUSSED, AND WHAT THEY SAID IS THEY BELIEVE THAT 100 -- THEY BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL SHOULD RESTRICT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM WITH THESE FUNDS, YOU SHOULD RESTRICT IT TO HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE 50% OR BELOW OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THE MAJORITY OFHEM SAID THAT WHERE THEY'RE SEEING PEOPLE IN NEED, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CALLS ARE COMING FROM. THEY'RE EVEN THAT OR LESS, THEY DON'T GET AS MANY ON THE HIGHER END, ON THAT 80% OR REACHING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TOWARD THE 80% MARK. WITH REGARDS TO LENGTH OF ASSISTANCE, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE WASN'T A UNANIMOUS DECISION ON THAT, BUT YOU'VE GOT A RANGE HERE. YOU HAD AGENCIES STATING THAT WE SHOULD CAP IT AS 3 MONTHS, 3 MONTHS CONSISTENT, AND THAT'S IT. YOU HAD OTHER AGENCIES -- YOU HAD ONE AGENCY SPECIFICALLY THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE IT AT OUR DISCRETION, SO YES, CITY OF PLANO, THIS IS YOUR PROGRAM, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE ADMINISTERING IT ON YOUR BEHALF, WE ARE THE ONES THAT KNOW THE RESIDENTS, WE ARE INTERACTING WITH THEM, NOT YOU, CITY OF PLANO STAFF, SO WE WANT TO DETERMINE IF THEY GET THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER AGENCY SAY, WELL, HOW ABOUT YOU BASE IT ON INCOME? SO IN ESSENCE, IF SOMEONE MAKES 50% OR BELOW OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, LET'S GIVE THEM THE FULL SIX MONTHS. DON'T ALLOW US AS AN AGENCY TO DECIDE. LET'S SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. AND THEN IF IT'S -- THEY'RE THEY'RE51 TO 83, GIVE THEM 3 MONTHS, THEY'RE SAYING GO UP TO THE 80%. WE DISCUSSED THE SLIDING SCALE ON HOW WE COULD DO IT DIFFERENT WAYS, AND ALL OF THEM SAID HOWEVER YOU PUT TOGETHER A SLIDING SCALE, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND, IF IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S HARD FO THE ADMO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT AND TR TO EXPLAIN IT IN A WAY THAT EVEN THE RESIDENTS WOULD EXPLAIN IT, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF WHY MY NEIGHBOR AND NOT ME. SO THAT IS THEIR DISCUSSION THERE. AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF THE AGENCIES SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU SHOULD REQUIRE THEM TO ATTEND A CLASS. TWO OF THEM SAID WE SPECIFICALLY DO IT, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM SAID YOU SHOULD REQUIRE THEM TO EITHER ATTEND THE BUDGET CLASS, REQUIRE THEM TO DO SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF CLASS IN ORDER TO GET THESE FILES. SO OUR QUEION SO YOU'VE GOT TWO SCENARIOS BEFORE YOU, AND HOW IT WILL LOOK. SO LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO SPEND THE WHOLE 1,$988,051 ON HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION. THIS IS KIND OF HOW THE BUDGET WOULD LOOK. THE CITY WOULD KEEP 1%, $20,000, THAT'S SO THAT WE COULD PUT MARKETING OUT. WE WOULD DO THE MARKETING SO THE AGENCY WOULD KNOW WHICH AGENCY OR IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES, WHERE THEY WLD SUPPOD TO GO. WE WOULD ADVERTISE IT JUST LIKE WE DID AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID, IT ALSO PAYS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF THE STAFF OVERSIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COORDINATOR AND SUPERVISOR OVERSEEING THIS PROGRAM, AND JUST GENERAL REPORTING AND AUDITING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP ABREAST OF HOW THE AGENCY OR AGENCIES ARE UTILIZING THESE FUNDS. THEN ON THE AGENCY SIDE, THERE'S 5% FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET. THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE SELECTED AND WE DON'T KNOW IF AN AGENCY PAID SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DO DGETG CLASSES OR TRAINING CLASSES OR WHOEVER THEIR TEACHING STAFF IS, BUT IT ALSO WILL PAY FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT DO CASE MANAGEMENT DIRECTLY WITH OUR RESIDENTS THAT YET YOU'VE GOT THE ACCOUNTANT THAT IS CUTTING THE CHECK OR YOU'VE GOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE PROGRAM MANAGER THAT MAY NOT BE MEETING WITH THE PERSON ONE ON ONE, BUT MAY BE MEETING WITH THE STAFF THAT IS WITH THAT KA CASE MANAGER, SO THAT 100,000 REPRESENTS ABOUT 5% OF THE OVERALL AMOUNT, AND THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE AGENCY. THAT DOES NOT COME TO THE CITY. E NEXT IS STRAIGHT FOR THE AGENCY AS WELL. THAT'S $165,000. THAT IS ESTIMATED ON HAVING PRETTY MUCH 3 CASE MANAGERS TO RUN IT. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE CASE MANAGEMENT TO HELP PEOPLE TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION, ONE CASE MANAGER IS NOT ENOUGH. SO THAT'S THAT ESTIMATE THAT YOU HAVE THERE. AND THEN OF COURSE DIRECT ASSISTANCE IS JUST WHAT IT SAYS, THAT'S THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THAT'S THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE LEFT. SO THE OTHER SCENARIO, BECAUSE LAST MONTH THERE WAS ANOTHER SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD IT LOOK IF WE HAD A TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AS WELL. THIS IS HOW IT LOOKED. THIS IS THE BREAK DOWN THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU ALL AS COUNCIL TO HAVE BOTH PROGRAMS AND STILL HELP. CITY ADMINISTRATION HASN'T CHANGED. EITHER WAY IT GOES, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT ADMINISTRATION. AGENCY ADMINISTRATION IS A LITTLE LESS, AND IT IT'S A LITTLE LESS IF YOU'RE WONDERING, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT POT, TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES IN ESSENCE, OR TWO I N'T KNOW IF IT'S GOINGE TO BE TWO DIFFERENT AGENCY, THREE OR WHO WOULD DO IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AN RFP FOR THIS. IT'S ENOUGH FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR NONDIRECT ASSISTANCE STAFF TO WORK ON IT, AND IT'S NOT AS MUCH MONEY AS BEFORE, SO THE IDEA IS THAT THE AMOUNT NEEDED WOULD BE SMALLER, AS FAR AS THE TIME, CASE MANAGEMENT IS 55,000 FOR EACH, SO IF YOU WONDER HOW I GOT THAT LAST 165,000, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S 55,000 IS WHAT HOUSING FORWARD, WHICH IS THE LEAD AGENCY IN OUR CONTINUING CARE SAYS IS A GOOD SARY FOR A CASE MANAGER. 55,000. AND THEN IN ESSENCE, 1.5 WOULD BE 82.5, 82.5 GIVES YOU THAT PAST 165 THAT YOU JUST SAW. BREAKING IT UP HERE, IT'S ONE CASE MANAGER, WE THINK THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE PROGRAM, AND THEN THE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE YOU SEE. SO ON THE TENANT BASED RENTALS, DECIDE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IS FULL RENT, AND THIS IS FOR UP TO -- THIS IS A YEAR, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND WHAT THE PROGRAM SAY, YOU CAN GO UP TO 24 MONTHS, THAT'S NOT OUR SUGGESTION. OUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE WHAT THE CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE MORE ACCUSTOMED TO, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE BEST PRACTICES, HAVING IT BE FOR A YEAR. THE IDEA BEING FOR A YEAR, YOU'RE PAYING SOMEBODY'S RENT AND UTILITIES, BUT YOU'RE NOT JUST PAYING RENT AND UTILITIES, YOU ARE HAVING CASE MANAGEMENT TO SEE WHAT DO YOU NEED. DO WE NEED TO ASSIST YOU WITH ESSENTIAL SERVICES? MAYBE YOU NEED EDUCATION. MAYBE YOU NEED JOB TRAINING. THIS PROGRAM WOULD AOW FOR THAT. NOW, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE DECIDED. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> IS CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE PLEASE? >> UH-HUH. >> SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD CLARIFY WHY ON THIS SLIDE YOU'RE SUGGESTING IF WE HAVE TWO PROGRAMS, WE'D ONLY NEED TWO CASE MANAGERS, BUT IF YOU DO HOMELESS PREVENTION MAYBE YOU WOULD WANT THREE CASE MANAGERS. >> THE REASON IS, WHEN YOU SPLIT THE MONEY UP, RENT IS A LOT, AND WITH TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND LEAVE MONEY STILL FOR A FULL RENT TO BE PAID FOR 12 MONTHS WAS HARD. SO I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE HAVE -- WE HAD, IT'S ON HOLD RIGHT NOW, BUT OUR OWN TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, HAS FUNCTIONED VERY WELL, WHEN WE'VE HAD ONE DEDICATED CASE MANAGER. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S 55,000. AS FAR AS THE -- I'M GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER SLIDE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT TS OTHER SLIDE HERE, THAT CASE MANAGEMENT IS BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW IS THAT IF WE DON'T REQUIRE AGENCIES TO HIRE AT LEAST ONE, AND MAYBE ONE AND A HALF, THE HALF PERSON ANSWERS ALL THOSE PHONE CALLS, AND MAKES SURE THEY RETURN THEM TO OUR RESIDENT, THE FULL PERSON WILL -- WILL IN ESSENCE BE DOING THE CASE MANAGEMENT, IT DOESN'T WORK, SO WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PICK UP THAT COST IF YOU'RE WONDERING? THE GOAL IS HERE WITH HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, THAT AGENCY ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET THAT'S JUST FOR THEM WILL HELP OFFSET THE COST. >> SO IN THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, WAS THAT ANTICIPATING THAT WHEN YOU DO THE RFP THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MORE THAN ONE AGENCY? >> THAT TOO. >> SO IF WE HAD ONE AGENCY MANAGING THIS, WOULDN'T THAT SAVE ON A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND THEN YOU COULD PUT MORE OF THE MONEY TOWARD HELPING THE PEOPLE? IT WOULD BUT -- WELL, WE TOLD YOU ALL WE WOULD GO OUT FOR AN RFP ON THIS, AND SO EVEN IF WE HAD ONE AGENCY, I WOULD STILL BE CONCERNED. BUT WE CAN ADJUST THE BUDGET AS NEEDED. >> Prince: YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE AGENCY THAT CAN HANDLE IT. >> I DO THINK THERE'S ONE AGENCY THAT COULD HANDLE THIS, HOWEVER, AS STAFF, WHEN WE CAME TO YOU LAST MONTH, WE TOLD YOU WE WOULD GO TO AN RFP, SO BECAUSE WE SAID THAT, WE COULD DO -- DO WE THINK THAT MAYBE EVEN OUR EXISTING HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AGENCY COULD HANDLE THIS PROGRAM IF WE DID ITR HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION? YES, I DO, BUT WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE WHEN WE GET NEW FUNDING IS GONE OUT FOR AN RFP. SO THAT'S SOMETHING -- GO AHEA. >> IF YOU GET A PROPOSAL THAT SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY'RE LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE LESS THAN THREE CASE MANAGERS, BUT THEY CAN DO THE JOB EFFICIENTLY, WHERE WOULD THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS GO? SO -- >> DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S THE WAY IT ALWAYS GOES. WHEN WE DON'T SPEND ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET, IT ALWAYS GOES BK IO DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. >> Prince: OKAY, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT US TO PRESENT IT THIS WAY WHERE WE'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO TAKE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS THAN ARE NECESSARY. >> WE WOULDN'T PUT AN RFP OUT LIKE THIS, SO THE WAY THAT WE DO AN RFP IN GENERAL, IT WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS. THIS IS SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THE BREAK DOWN COULD LOOK, BUT POINT IS TAKEN. IT WOULDN'T BE. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? >> Williams: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SHANETTE. TWO QUESTIONS: THE FIRST IS PURSNT TO THE SECOND, CAN YOU PLEASE WALK ME THROUGH THE SALIENT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE? >> YES. HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION IS SOMEONE CALLING SAYING I'VE GOT AN EMERGENCY, AND FOR SOME EMERGENCY I CANNOT PAY MY RENT. THAT IS DIFFERENT. THEY -- THAT HOUSEHOLD WOULDN'T GET AS MUCH HAND HOLDING AS A TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, SO TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE BY HUD'S DEFINITION, YOU HAVE TO BE WHAT THEY CALL HOMELESS, SO FOR INSTANCE, THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WE CALL IT A CATEGORY 2 HOMELESS, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT LITERALLY LIVING ON THE STREET, BUT YOU HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE, AND IN ESSENCE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SKILLS OR HELP OR FAMILY SUPPORT TO HELP YOU SURVIVE IF EVEN WE JUST GAVE YOU SIX MONTHS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE. YOU NEED MORE HELP THAN THAT. AND SWITH THI PROGRAM, NOT ONLY IS THERE INTENTION CASE MANAGEMENT MEANING YOU'RE MEETING WITH YOUR CASE MANAGER, MORE THAN JUST ONE A MONTH, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO YOUR HOUSE ONCE A MONTH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE HOW IS -- HOW ARE YOU LIVING, ARE YOU AC CLIMATE MATING TO -- ARE YOU BECOMING SELF-SUFFICIENT. HOMELESS PREVENTION ASSUMES THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE, BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT. >> Williams: OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING UNDER THE GUIDELINES FOR HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION WHICH PREVENTS US ADDITIONAL HEL TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THE EVICTION NOTICE AND MAY HAVE NO OTHER WAY OUT OF THEIR SITUATION? >> NO. SO THIS HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION WILL BE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE, AND GO ON, AND IT'S -- DOES THAT ANSWER IT? >> Williams: MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. MAYBE I GOT IT BACKWARD, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE WAS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD THE EVICTION NOTICE, AND HOMELESSNESS WAS -- >> THAT ALSO MAY BE. I UNDERSTAND. I'M SORRY FOR THAT CONVENTION. TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. CAS GORY TWO HOMELESSNESS IS SOMEONE THAT IS ABOUT TO BE EVICTED, SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT TO HELP THEM, THEY CAN'T GO BORROW THE MONEY SOMEWHERE. HUD HAS A SPECIFIC, LIKE A CHART, A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CHECK, WHEREAS TO MAKE SURE THEY QUALIFY AS A CATEGORY 2 HOMELESS. HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, YOU DON'T HAVE >> NO, THERE ISN'T. WHAT WOULD BE PREVENTED IS THEM HAVING FUNDS TO DO OTHER THINGS LIKE ESSENTIAL SERVICES. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THIS TO DO THAT. >> Williams: OKAY. ON AVERAGE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS MORE HANDS ON THAT HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION CASE MANAGEMENT, THEN I'M DOUBLY NOT UNDERSTANDING THE MATH BETWEEN SLIDES 8 AND 7, BECAUSE THE -- THEGENCY CA MANAGEMENT IN SLIDE 7 IS 165,000, IF WE DO ALL HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, SO IF WE'RE TAKING A PORTION OF THE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND PUTTING IT TOWARD TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. SUDDENLY A THIRD OF THE TOTAL CASE MANAGEMENT COST DISAPPEARS, AND IF WE'RE SPLITTING THAT BETWEEN TWO ORGANIZATIONS I DON'T UPS WHY WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ENCOUNTER THE SITUATION OF BOTH ORGANIZATIONS NEEDING TO HIRE A FULL FTE VERSE A PART FTE'S JOB. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE SPENDING LESS IN CASE MANAGEMENT IF WE DIVERSIFY INTO TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. >> OKAY. UNDERSTAND, WITH OUR OWN PROGRAM, IN HOUSE, EVEN WITH OUR RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, WHEN YOU HAVE ONE CASE MANAGER, YOU GO FROM HAVING A LOW -- HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF HOUSEHOLDS OKAY? TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, YOU'RE HAVING ONE CASE MANAGER STILL BEING FULL TIME, BUT THEIR CASELOAD IS SO SMALL. WE WERE JUST TALKING TO OUR RAPID REHOUSING AGENCY EARLIER TODAY, THEY SAID, OH, WAIT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CASELOAD OF MAYBE 12 PEOPLE, YES, THEY REQUIRE MORE WORK, BUT IT'S ONE PERSON THAT CAN DO IT, THAT IS A MANAGEABLE CASELOAD, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MANAGING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THAT MANY DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS, IT IS A LOT OF WORK FOR ONE CASE MANAGER TO DO, AND WHEN WE HAVE TO SPLIT UP THE MONEY, IF WE SPLIT UP THE MONEY, THEN IT HAS TO BE ENOUGH AGCIES TO HAVE ENOUGH ADMINISTRATION AND CASE MANAGEMENT TO DO THE SAME THING. >> SO SHANETTE, COMING DOWN TO THE CASE MANAGEMENT SIDE OF THINGS, DOES COUNCIL HAVE THE FLEXIBLABILITY TO SAY, TWO CASE MANAGERS VERSUS THREE CASE MANAGERS? OKAY. I THINK PART OF WHAT I'M HEARING COUNCILMEMBER'S REQUEST IS WHAT IS THE DELINEATION BETWEEN THE WORKLOAD OF DIVIDING IT OUT, NEEDING TWO, HAVING IT CONSOLIDATING AND NEEDING THREE. I THINK THE COUNCILMAN'S QUESTION, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S IS THAT THE WORKLOAD SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSIVE WITH THE TENANT BASED, VERSUS THE HOMELESS ASPECT OF THINGS, SO I THINK THEY'RE WANTING TO UNDERSTAND FULLY WHERE DID THE WORKLOAD FOR THE THIRD PERSON GO IF WE'RE SPLITTING IT OUT, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, DO WE STILL NEED THAT POSITION, AND DO THEY STILL HAVE THE DISCRETION, I KNOW THEY DO, TO PUT IT BACK IN THE WAY THAT THEY WANT? >> OKAY, YEAH, BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THE MATH. I WOULD WANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO GO TO DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, UNDER THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION COLUMN OF SLIDE 8, WE'RE SAYING IF WE HAVE ROUNDING 1.5 MILLION IN DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WE NEED $55,000 WORTH OF CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT IF WE BUMP UP THE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE BY 15%, 205,000, THEN WE NEED THREE TIMES AS MUCH CASE MANAGEMENT, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WORKS. >> SO THE BUDGET CAN BE CHANGED HOWEVER -- THAT'S A MOVABLE THING. THAT'S THE EASY WAY TO ANSWER YOU ALL. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IF OUR CONTRACTING AGENCY, THE ASSISTANCE CENTER WAS STANDING HERE TONIGHT, THEY WOULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH WORK IT IS TO RUN HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND ALL THE EXTRA THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO WE DON'T EVEN -- BUT IT CAN CHANGE. SO THE QUICK ANSWER IS IT CAN CHANGE. WE CAN DO BOTH. WE CAN CHANGE THE BUDGET HOWEVER IT NEEDS TO BE. IT'S NOT CAPPED BY HUD. THAT ISN'T. IT CAN CHANGE. >> OKAY. BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, I SUPPORT PUTTING IT ALL TOWARD HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION. THANK YOU, SHANETTE. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMAN -- >> AS A FORMER VOLUNTEER AND INTAKE COORDATOR AT THE ASS IS ANSWER CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY AND A FORMER BOARD MEMBER THERE AS WELL, I TOOK A LOT OF THE PHONE CALLS THAT WOULD COME IN, AND I -- IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM MY CAR BROKE DOWN AND SO I CAN'T GET TO WORK, BUT SO MANY OF THE CALLS WERE REALLY ONE-TIME CALLS. NOW, WE HAD A LOT OF REPEAT CLIENTS, BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO HEAR MAYBE FROM COLLEEN WHAT -- I KNOW A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE I WAS ANSWERING PHONES THERE, BUT -- FROM MY EXPERIENCE, CASE MANAGEMENT, FOR HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, WAS A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS A ONE TIME, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF FOLLOW-UP, IS THAT NOT THE CASE ANYMORE? >> NO, MA'AM. SO THEY -- KIND OF GET BACK TO THE SLIDES SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WAS LAST YEAR. SO THIS IS LAST YEAR'S -- THIS IS THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION THAT HAS JUST ENDED. THEY WERE FINISHED WITH OUR FUNDING, WHAT DID I SAY HERE N. JUNE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT HELPING PEOPLE JUST ONCE. THEY ARE SEEING PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDING MORE HELP, AND NOT ONLY THAT, COLLEEN, THE ASSISTANCE CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY, I'M SORRY, ENDED UP USING SOME OF THE CITY OF PLANO'S CDBG ADMINISTRATION DOLLARS, THE ONE THAT IS -- THE ONE THAT WE TOOK OFF THE TOP TO PAY FOR A PARDON TIME PERSON, SO THAT THEY COULD ANSWER THE PHONES BECAUSE OF HOW MANY VOICE MAILS -- >> OH, YEAH, NO, I'M NOT AT ALL SAYING THAT THE PHONES AREN'T RINGING OFF THE HOOK AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEED AND WE RELIED HEAVILY ON VOLUNTEERS, SUCH AS MYSELF. SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I GUESS MY POINT WAS -- AND THERE ARE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE BACK PACK PROGRAM, WE HAD THE HOLIDAY PROGRAM, WE HAD A LOT OF FAMILIES WE WERE ASSISTING ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT ALSO A LOT OF THE CALLS WERE A ONE-TIME SITUATION, SO THE -- I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE INTENSITY OF THE OTHER PROGRAM BEING A SMALLER NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT MORE WORK WENT INTO IT, I JUST -- >> YEAH. >> MY EXPERIENCE WASN'T THAT THERE WAS LIKE TONS OF FAMILIES THAT WERE -- I MEAN,HE F HOUSEHOLDS, 104 -- >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THOSE THAT RECEIVED TWO TO THREE MONTHS NOT JUST ONE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN, IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I KNOW THAT FROM LOOKING AT THE DATA, WE HAVE NOT SEEN HOUSEHOLDS THAT JUST SAY I'M GOOD WITH ONE MONTH. WHEN THE ASSISTANCE CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY CALLS THEM AGAIN, THEY NEED ANOTHER MONTH. AND SO I KNOW WITH THIS PROGRAM HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, I KNOW THAT THEN THEY WILL SAY, WELL, DID YOU LOOK FOR A JOB >> Prince: YEAH, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR RENT, CORRECT? >> OH, YES, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR RENT. >> Prince: OKAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT UTILITY ASSISTANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE. >> HOLD ON. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT -- THIS IS FOR RENT AND UTILITIES. SO THERE ARE SOMETIMES, WHEN I TELL YOU PEOPLE ARE BEING HELPED FOR TWO TO THREE MONTHS, THAT'S FOR RENT. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T NEED THEIR UTILITIES, BUT THEIR LARGEST COST IS THEIR RENT -- >> Prince: RIGHT. >> SO -- >> Prince: RIGHT. SO HELPING SOMEONE ONE TIME, I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME. >> YEAH, WELL, AGAIN, IT M HA CH. I KNOW WE WERE LIMITED ON -- FOR ELECTRIC, THEY COULD ONLY GET ONE MONTH, BUT IF THEY HAD NOT PAID IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, YEAH, THEN YOU COULD PAY THE TWO MONTHS THEY HADN'T PAID, BUT COULDN'T PAY THEIR LATE FEES AND THERE WERE LOTS OF THOSE LITTLE RULES. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I AM A LITTLE BIT DISCONNECTED FROM THE DAILY OPERATIONS, NOW I HAVE BEEN, I WAS CURIOUS -- IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR SOME REAL LIFE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCES FROM THE CENTER, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DO REALLY AMAZING WORK AND I KNOW THEY NEEDS A MANY VOLUNTEE AND STAFF AND THE FUNDING RUNS OUT EARLY, SO I WASN'T DISCOUNTING WHAT THEY WERE DOING, I HOPE THAT'S CLEAR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, MY EXPERIENCE WAS THERE WERE A LOT OF CALLS THAT WERE JUST ONE OFFS THAT YOU WERE TAKING CARE OF, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S EVERYONE. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMEMBER SMITH? >> Smith : I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS I ALSO BELIEVE WE NEED TO PUT EVERY PENNY WE CAN INTO DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, BUT THEN I DO KNOW, AS MENTIONED, IT IS VERY TIME INTENSIVE, I'VE HAD OCCASION TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE THAT WERE HAVING PROBLEMS BEFORE, AND IT'S MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST ONE PERSON, SO I CAN IMAGINE WHEN YOU HAVE LOTS OF CALLS. THE ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAY BACK EARLIER THIS YEAR, ABOUT UTILITIES IN SPECIFIC, BECAUSE I STILL HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM THIS WINTER, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE CASE, I MEAN JUST ELECTRIC, FOR INSTANCE, I KNOW THAT ELECTRICAL RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL HAVE GONE UP 100%, AND MORE IN SOME CASES, GAS HAS GONE UP, ALTHOUGH GAS HAS BEEN RETREATING OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO. YOU HAD TOUCHED ON IT, BUT WHAT I HAD HOPED TO SEE, MAYOR, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IS I WANT US TO APPLY AND HAVE A LARGER POOL AVAILABLE FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE THAN I THINK WE HAVE, BECAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THE PROGRAM, BUT WITHIN, WHAT, SIX, SEVEN MONTH IT'S OUT OF FUNDS. AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN AVOID GETTING TO THAT SITUATION, SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT -- BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING BROKEN OUT HERE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT UTILITIES EACH COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER HAD MENTIONED THAT, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, HOW -- OR HOW WE HAVE IMPROVED, HOW WE ANTICIPATE HAVING MORE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO HELP PEOPLE PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS. >> SO WITH OUR HOME ARP FUNDS, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE JUST UTILITY PROGRAM. SO THE HUD LANGUAGE SS THAT. SO IF AND WHEN WE GET AUDITED, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LOT OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE'VE ONLY HELPED WITH UTILITIES. IT HAS -- BECAUSE HOME ARP IS TO PROVIDE A HOME, AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION WE GET REALLY DOES TIE BACK THERE'S A VERY REAL REASON WHY WE'RE ONLY PAYING SOMEBODY'S UTILITIES BECAUSE HUD IS WONDERING WOULD WONDER WHY YOU'RE NOT PAYING THEIR FULL HOUSING COSTS. >> Smith : SO LET ME ASK YOU HYPOTHETICALLY, AND You do a good job of explaining it to us. Your two big expenses, have you your rent that you have to pay, or you're out. Then you have utilities. Perhaps this gets into case management. Pay your utilities, and we can help with the rent. >> There may be a case where they're not using homelessness prevention to pay utilities too, but they're offsetting it with their other grant that's solely for utilities. Those things do happen in our current program. They happen depending on the agency that we use for this program. >> Have we -- probably have, but have we reached out to folks at the utilities to get assistance? Hey, give us some leeway or give us something that we can utilize, discount, something for the folks that are on our programs here. What about that? >> I was going to say with regards to their money, they typically fund nonprofits. As a city, we typically do not apply. A lot of times them as well as council, governments, there are a lot of places that will have grants that pay for utilities only or just like at TX. You would. We don't compete with them. Then we start competing with our own nonprofits, and that's what we don't want to do is to compete for the same pot of money with our own nonprofits because we would prefer for them to get it and then if we use them, they can offset their costs. For example, DWOENT apply for a TXU grant because we know that there are a number of nonprofits it that get that grant. So we wouldn't go in and try to do that. Is that what you're -- >> Yes, sir. >> It's usually provided directly from the utility or directly through a nonprofit. It typically doesn't go through a third party like us and then The senior assistance and some of the assistance with those from both Oncor and -- is directly from them or a designated nonprofit, but it's usually competed for system-wide. So it's not an allocation to plano and an allocation to others. It's kind of from an entire system perspective. >> At least we're thinking about it, and I give you a lot of credit for that. It's going to be an issue for sure. Thank you. >> Thank you, council member. Council member Grady. >> Grady: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just had a couple of questions that I wanted to get little bit of information on and probably some of it -- council member Smith was addressing in a way, but I do know that, for example, the assistance center of Collin county has ab agreement with TXU Oncor that they receive moans from that utility; and they can use those moans if somebody has utility issue. The issue also comes, if you live in the west side of plano, you're not in a TXU, Oncor district anymore. You're in a BRASOS district. Those agreements are with Allen and McKinney. They're not with the assistance center of Collin county. If somebody is having utilities issues on the west side of plano and calls the assistance center, they don't have the agreement. They have to refer you to someone else. We need to put the money into an majoty of wha we need them to do in the community and not try to split it up amongst multiple agencies. Only from the standpoint that the more that you split it ups to me, the more fragmented it becomes. The more fragmented it becomes, the less services will actually end up in the community in helping individuals. It deals with the rental assistance or the utilities. I can see what the federal overnment is saying and housing and HUD is saying if you are taking it out of this pot or you're defining it as such, it isn't tenant-based rental assistance. Their definition under homeless prevention puts handcuffs on you as to what the agency eventually can do. Somehow we need to figure out a way to take those handcuffs off. Somehow we need to figure out a way to work with an agency AND SAY WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO IS TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN PLANO OR ALL DEPENDS WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM, DOESN'T IT. FROM THE ASSISTANCE CENTER. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE AGENCIES THERE IN ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT CAN HANDLE BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING IN THIS RFP. MY INCLINATION IS TO MOVE THE DOLLARS INTO AN AGENCY WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE THE PROPER CASE MANAGEMENT. WHERE I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A HUGE WORKLOAD, THAT THERE'S ONLY SO MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MUSTER THROUGH AS A CASE MANAGER AND SO IF IT TAKES ONE OR TWO OR IF IT TAKES THREE, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THE PEOPLE MOVED FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND REMOVE AS MANY HANDCUFFS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY IN THIS MODEL THAT WE HAVE HERE IS ONLY USING ABOUT $20,000 OF THE $1.9 MILLION. THAT IS TO FILL OUT REPORTS FROM THE ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT AND SAY WE'RE DOING GOOD. THE REST OF IT IS ENDING UP WITH AN AGENCY, SOME OF WHICH THEY'RE USING FOR CASE MANAGERS, AND SOME OF WHICH THEY'RE USING TO FILL OUT REPORTS TO GIVE US REPORTS, AND THE REST OF IT IS THAT ARE IN NEED. USE THE MONEY TO HELP THESE PEOPLE. IF IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH EVEN INDICATED, IF THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR UTILITY, BUT HOMELESS PREVENTION DOESN'T LET THEM PAY THEIR UTILITY, BUT THEY CAN PAY THEIR RENT, THEN PAY THE UTILITY, AND WE'LL PAY THE RENT. THAT WAY WE CAN SHIFT THE DOLLARS INTO THEIR HANDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. RIGHT NOW IS A SIGNIFICANTLY Y GREATER NEED THAN WE HAD EVEN DURING COVID. THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DEMAND ON THE DOLLARS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE OUT NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COVID ISSUE, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSING AND RENT ISSUE AND THAT THAT PRICE CONTINUES TO ESCALATE, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES AND WE'RE PUTTING MORE PEOPLE WITH FIXED INCOMES OUT OF HOUSING. I WASOPEF THAI WAS HELPG A LADY JUST LAST WEEK WITH THAT VERY SITUATION. FORTUNATELY, TALKING WITH THE ASSIST I CAN'T BES CENTER, THEY GOT ON IT WITHIN A FEW MINUTES TO HELP THE LADY OUT. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO FUNNEL IT INTO A SINGLE AGENCY THAT CAN DO THE FULL SCOPE, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE AGZ THAT CAN DO THAT. >> RICIARDELLI: I HAVE TWO ISSUES, AND THEN I WILL BE UNCHARACTERISTICALLY BRIEF IN PROPOSING MY ISSUE. ALL BETS ARE OFF ON THIS. NO, JUST KIDDING. THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TBRA IS A LITTLE MORE HANDS-ON. IT'S A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE NEEDS THAT CAN'T JUST BE SOLVED BY MONEY. IS THAT A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? >> THAT IS A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING. >> RICIARDELLI: AND ON THE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE UNDER HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, ONE OF THE DECISIONS WAS THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF SOMEBODY GETS TO THREE MONTHS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL HAVEN'T KIND OF TAKEN OFF AND THINGS ARE GOING WELL TO TRANSITION THEM TO TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE AT THAT POINT IF WE WERE DOING BOTH? >> I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY -- WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PAYING -- WE DO THAT ALREADY. LET ME SAY IT THAT WAY. WE DO THAT ALREADY, SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM. >> RICIARDELLI: FANTASTIC. IF THAT CAN BE DONE IN A SINGLE AGENCY, THAT'S EVEN MORE SEAMLESS AND GREAT. THE SECOND QUESTION IS -- ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT FIRST QUESTION ANSWERED THE SECOND ONE BE, SO I'LL GIVE MY PROPOSED DIRECTION. I THINK WE NEED TO DO BOTH OF THESE THINGS. THERE'S AN ESSAY CALLED MILLION DOLLAR MURRAY BY MALCOLM GLADWELL, AND IT CHRONICLES A STORY OF A MAN STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS WHO OVER THE COURSE OF SOME PERIOD OF TIME THE GOVERNMENT WHERE HE WOULD HAVE SPENT $1 MILLION ON PROGRAMS ATTRIBUTLE TTRYING TO PREVENT HIS HOMELESSNESS, BUT HE HAD PROBLEMS THAT COULDN'T JUST BE SOLVED BY MONEY. I THINK WE NEED THE TBRA ASPECT OF THIS. SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL LIFE SKILLS. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED MORE INTENSIVE HELP TO BE ABLE TO STAY HOUSED. WRITING A CHECK IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO SOLVE EVERYBODY'S PROBLEMS. IT'S GOING TO SOLVE SOME PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO BOTH. I WOULD REQUIRE THAT PEOPLE ATTEND A CLASS OR TRAINING CERTAINLY AS PART OF THE TBRA AND EVEN FOR THE HOMELESSNESS TRM DIRECT FINANCIAL POSITION. IF IT'S MORE THAN A ONE-TIME THING. FITZ A ONE-OFF THEY MIGHT NOT NEED A CLASS, FWUT IF IT'S A REPEAT THING, THEN THERE MAY NEED TO BE A CLASS. I WOULD LIMIT IT AS 50% OF AMI. I WOULD CAP THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AT THREE MONTHS, BUT BE OPEN TO TRANSITIONING TO TBRA IF IT'S NEEDED AT THAT THREE-MONTH JUNCTURE AND ASCERTAIN WHAT ISSUES HAVE PREVENTED RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE WITHIN THOSE THREE MONTHS AND MAYBE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CLASSES TAILORED TO THOSE SPECIFIC OBSTACLES AND NEEDS AT THAT POINT. FOR SOMEONE WHO HASN'T BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT AFTER THREE MONTHS. THEN ALSO TO THE POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH MADE ABOUT UTILITY ASSISTANCE. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS. WHILE WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH NONPROFITS FOR GRANTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE JUST TO SEE IF THAT CAN HAVE A FOREBEARANCE OR WHATEVER WHERE THAT IS NEEDED. THAT WOULD BE WITH MY PROPOSED DIRECTION. >> LET ME ADD A LITE BIT TO THE COUNCILMAN'S THOUGHTS. TO A GREAT DEGREE, I AGREE WITH SOME OF IT EXCEPT FOR ONE THING. I WOULD NOT PUT THINGS IN BOXES. AND SAY $1.4 HAS TO BE OVER HERE AND 4 HAS TO BE OVER HERE. THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY THE MONEY WILL BE USED. 1.4 OVER HERE AND 4 OVER HERE. SIMPLY GET IT, ALL IN ONE BOX AND SAY USE IT HOW WE NEED TO THE IN THE COMMUNITY. AT THE END OF THE YEAR IF YOU SPENT DRARS 1.4 IN THIS BOX AND 4 OVER HERE, THAT'S OKAY. I WOULDN'T BUT ALL THE LIMITATIONS IN ONE THING BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING HANDCUFFS. >> RICIARDEL LI: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX BECAUSE I THINK THEY COULD BOTH BE NEEDED IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. >> MUNS: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. REALLY BRIEFLY. >> WILLIAMS: I AGREE WITH THAT A LOT OF THESE FOLKS' PROBLEMS CAN'T JUST BE SOLVED WITH MONEY. TO MY QUESTION EARLIER, IF WE LUMP IT ALL UNDER HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROHIBITING US FROM REQUIRING OR PROVIDING BUDGET TRAINING OR -- >> WE DO IT NOW. >> WILLIAMS: SO THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING US FROM DOING THAT WITH HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION. >> NO. >> WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. >> MUS: DO WE HAVE A DIRECTION ARE OR ARE WE HERDING CATS? >> WE WILL HAVE TO SUPPLY A REAL BUDGET TO HUD. >> CAN WE JUST INCLUDE THE TOTAL AMOUNT? >> I'LL DO THAT AND LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN. THANK YOU. >> MUNS: THANK YOU. DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE. SOUNDS REALLY IMPORTANT. CALEB, I HEARD THIS FORM OF TRANSPORTATION IS AWFULLY QUICK. JUST MAKING SURE WE -- I'M GOING TO BE UNUSUALLY BRIEF TONIGHT. >> EXCITING. SHORT 45 MINUTES, AND WE'LL BE -- [LAUGHING] >> CALEB THORNHILL. I'M JOINED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION MANAGER. REALLY TO THE SHORTENED POINT OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND PERMISSION REALLY FROM COUNCIL THEN THEY PASS IT TO SOMEONE THERE WERE FOUR COMPANIES THAT CERTIFIED, AND OUT OF FOUR THERE'S ONE CALLED JPODS. CO IS REQUESTING IS TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR LOCAL AGENCIES. I'LL SAY THIS SEVERAL TIMES. NO COMMITMENT, NO FINANCIAL, NO LOCATION COMMITMENT, BUT SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING WITH ONE OF THESE VENDORS. THE ONE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME INTEREST IN IS JPODS. SO THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS WE WOULD SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO COG. COG WOULD PRESENT THOSE TO THE VENDORS. IF THEY GET FIVE, IF THEY GET TEN, THEY WOULD CHOOSE ONE, MAYBE TWO DEPENDING HOW THEIR SELECTION PROCESS, AND THEN WE WOULD ENGAGE IN TALKS OF HERE'S THE LOCATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE REALLY LIKE THAT OR WE DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE. AT THAT POINT WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH FURTHER DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS. YOU PROBABLY ARE ASKING WHAT EXACTLY IS A JPOD? I NEED TO CLICK THROUGH MY SLIDES HERE SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS IS A RENDERING OF A JPOD.. IT'S A FEE-BASED POINT TO MULTI-POINT AERIAL PERSONAL TRANSIT. IT IS A PERSONAL POD OR CAR THAT CARRIES FOUR TO SIX PEOPLE. THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IT WORKS IS YOU ARRIVE, YOU GET INTO YOUR VEHICLE. YOU'RE NOT SHARING IT. YOU GET INTO YOUR VEHICLE. YOU ENTER IN THE LOCATION OR STATION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO. IT WILL TAKE YOU THERE. IT DOES NOT STOP AT A STATION. TO WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO BOARD. IT DOES NOT GO ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT DIRECTORY TO THAT STATION. AGAIN, FOUR TO SIX PEOPLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY SAFE. IT IS NOT INTERFERING WITH THE ROADWAY. IT DOES NOT CROSS ANY STREETS WHERE THEY HAVE TO PUT SIGNALS DOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S ALL AERIAL. I DO HAVE SOME VIDEOS. YOU'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PACKET. WE CAME HERE BEFORE, AND WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES IN SHOWING VIDEOS. UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T SHOW YOU. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE THE RENDERING THERE. THE FOOTINTS VARY DEPENDING HOW BUSY THE STATION IS, HOW MANY PODS THAT NEED TO BE AT THOSE LOCATIONS. THEY ARE TELLING US THAT THEY CAN GO INTO BUILDINGS, THEY CAN ADJACENT TO BUILDINGS, THEY CAN BE AS SMALL AS TAKING US ESSENTIALLY TWO PARKING SPOTS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY CAN BE BIGGER IF IT'S A LARGER AREA THAT HAS A HIGHER NEED FOR THESE LOCATIONS. THE INTERSECTIONS, LEGACY AND HEADQUARTERS BRIAN. IS THAT CORRECT? INTERSECTIONS ARE A MINI-ROUNDABOUT OR TRAFFIC CIRCLE. YOU COME INTO IT. YOU CIRCLE AROUND. THEN IT KICKS YOU OUT IN THE DIRECTION YOU NEED TO GO. MENTION COG HAS REQUESTED AN APPLICATION. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE KNOW ABOUT JPOD DIRECTLY, THERE WAS A PRESUBMITTAL MEETING ON FRIDAY. THEY PRESENTED. ANOTHER VENDOR PRESENTED. THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A THEY HAVE SOME MOCKUPS. THEY HAVE SOME RENDERINGS. THEY HAVE SOME VIDEOS. THEY HAVE NOT DEPLOYED ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THE WORLD. IT IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY, ALTHOUGH BRIAN HAS HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CEO. HE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK 14 OR 15 AT LEAST WITH JPOD. THEY HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED THE TECHNOLOGY YET. I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. I MENTION IT AGAIN. THERE IS NO COMMITMENT AT THIS POINT. NO FINANCIAL. EVEN THE LOCATION IF WE PROPOSE ONE IS NOT A COMMITMENT. THERE CURRENTLY IS NO FUNDING FROM COG AVAILABLE. IF WE DO END UP WITH A LOCATION, THE VENDOR SELECTS US, WE DO SOME SORT OF ROUTE STUDY. THERE IS NO FUNDING AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT. THE VENDOR HAS PROPOSED THAT THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE PRIVATELY FUNDED SO THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE CITY. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY ASK IS USE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THEN THEY HAVE OFFERED POTENTIALLY UP TO 5% IN FEES COMING BACK TO THE CITY IF WE IMPLEMENTED THE TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS THE LEGACY AREA. THE AREA IN BLUE IS WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE FOR A FOESHL ROUTE. AGAIN, NO COMMITMENT AT ALL. IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THIS DOES NOT WORK AND HERE'S HOW WE WANT TO MODIFY IT, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD COME BACK. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY -- WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH ANY OF THE CORPORATE OFFICES IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH FRISCO, AND THEY ARE CURIOUS. IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WORD ABOUT E TECOLOGY AS WELL. THIS IS A PART OF THE APPLICATION. THEY REQUEST THAT WE SUBMIT A PROPOSED LOCATION. SO THE VENDOR CAN THEN EVALUATE AND SEE IF IT MEETS THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. NEXT STEPS, WE WOULD REQUEST COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. I MENTIONED THE MEETING WE HAD ON FRIDAY. WE ALREADY HAD THAT. THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE NOVEMBER 18th. THEN BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE COME BACK TOOUNC AND DISCUSSLD POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS. TONIGHT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY REQUESTING EITHER DIRECTION OR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD. >> MUNS: THANK YOU. CONGRESSIONALMAN GRADY. >> GRADY: CALEB, THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS OUT AT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL RTC FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE'VE ALSO BEEN LOOKING FOR A WAY OF CONNECTING LEGACY WEST AND THE SHOPS OF LEGACY AND ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF POINT OUT TWO THINGS, AND TT'S USING THE MAP THAT YOU HAD IN HERE AS A SLIDE. >> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT. >> YEP. >> SORRY. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY FEW PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE NORTH ON THE TOP. IT DRIVES ME NUTS WHEN THEY HAVE NORTH ON THE LEFT OR BELOW, BUT -- I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THIS IN THE CITY? SECOND, I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE PIECE THAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT IN SORT OF THIS GOLD COLOR. THAT IS ON THE FAR WEST SIDE WHERE IT GS OVER THE TOP OF THE BURLINGTON NORTHERN SANTA FE, THAT COULD BE A VERY STRATEGIC POINT. AT SOME POINT IN TIME SHOULD THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL AND THE CITIES PUT ANOTHER, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A STATION LOCATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT RTC IS A STATION LOCATION AT THAT SPOT. I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF PLANO, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT AS WE'RE GETTING INTO THIS DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE A STRATEGIC ROUTE. IT WOULD BE MORE BLUE THAN IT WOULD BE GOLD. >> RIGHT. THE OTHER EXTENSION THAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE TO THE SOUTH IS, OBVIOUSLY, TO THE PARK AND RIDE. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT DOES END UP AT THE PARK AND RIDE. THANK YOU. >> MUNS: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> WILLIAMS: HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH DART ABOUT THIS? >> WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH DART. OBVIOUSLY, THIS AREA THAT WE'RE SHOWING IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE DART IS NOT LOCATED RIGHT W. WE'VE CONSIDERED SOME POTENTIAL OTHER ONES, BUT WE FELT LIKE FROM AN INITIAL -- IF WE END UP, AGAIN, WAY DOWN THE ROAD AS A PILOT PROJECT, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THIS. >> IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. JUST TO BE ALLOWED TO USE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> AT THIS POINT, CORRECT. >> MUNS: COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. >> SMITH: EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T BUILT THIS. DO THEY HAVE ANY ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TIME-WISE TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT WOULD BE USABLE? >> I DON'T KNOW. BRIAN HAS HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CEO. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE HAD -- THEY HAVE TOLD US IT'S $15 MILLION A MONTH TO BUILD THESE. >> I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? >> $15 MILLION. >> 1-5. NOT 5-0. CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GAVE YOU ANY ESTIMATE ON WHEN THEY WOULD -- AS FAR AS A TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION. >> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE EVEN GET REMOTELY CLOSE TO CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN TO TEN YEARS BEFORE, IN MY OPINION, BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS THING OPERATIONAL. THERE'S A LOT OF EVALUATION. >> SO WITHIN A DECADE. THAT'S A GOOD TARGET. >> A LOT OF EVALUATION THAT IS HAVE TO HAPPEN. A LOT OF AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN. A LOT OF BUY-IN FROM THE VARIOUS COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT IN THIS AREA. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN. WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. >> DISNEY NOT A SIMILAR NETWORK IN ORLANDO. [LAUGHING] >> IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ADDRESSING IT. THAT'S A POINTS SYSTEM, THE ONE THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, WITH ONE OR TWO STATIONS WHERE YOU CAN TRANSFER TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THINK OF THIS SYSTEM AS THE SAME THING THAT YOU COULD DO IN A CAR ON A ROADWAY SYSTEM. YOU GET IN YOUR CAR. YOU GO WHICHEVER DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO. THIS SYSTEM JUST DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY FOR YOU. >> DIFFERENT SYSTEM TO BE SURE. >> I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN SMITH BROUGHT UP THE POINT ABOUT HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION. MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE HOW DISRUPTIVE IT WOULD BE TO OUR ALREADY GROWING TRAFFIC, BUT OTHERWISE, IT SOUNDS REALLY EXCITING AND SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THANK YOU. >> WHAT I'M HEARING AND SEEING HEAD-NODS, IT'S OKAY TO KEEP OUR NAME IN THE POOL FOR CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT, SO WE'RE OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD? >> MUNS: YEAH. >> WE CAN EDIT SOME OF THOSE YELLOW LINES. [LAUGHING] >> MUNS: THANK YOU.pNEXT ITEM. CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. ANY ITEM? ANY ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAED? >> I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE HAD A SHORT COUNCIL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION. WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AT THE NOVEMBER 14th MEETING TO DISCUSS THE 9% AND 4% HOUSING TAX CREDITS CRITERIA AND PROCESS. THAT WILL BE IN THE PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING ON THE 14th OF NOVEMBER. WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK AT THAT TIME. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKS AND FIELDS AND HOW WE ALLOCATE PARKS PRACTICE SPACES AND POTENTIALLY DISCUSSION HOW WE WORK WITH OUR LEAGUES TO ALLOCATE SPACE TO LEAGUES AS WELL. >> OURPARK STAFFER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT REPORT FOR A WEEK AND A HALF, AND WE'LL BE READY FOR THAT DISCUSSION. >> MUNS: WE WANT ALL OF YOU TO COME AND SIT DOWN, BUT NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO. BUT WE WILL NOW TAKE A RECESS FOR THREE MINUTES ASK START OUR MEETING AT 7:00. [BR [BREAK] >> MUNS: I NOW DECLEAR THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR SAM VINCE ROADWAY WITH MOUNT OLIVE CHURCH IN PLANO, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY CUB SCOUT PAC-1259, HUGHSTON AND WELLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? >> LET US PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE. WE PRAY, GOD, FOR THIS MEETING. WE PRAY, GOD, FOR WISDOM AND WE ASK, GOD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM STRENGTH, GIVE THEM COURAGE, GOD, THIS COUNCIL TO MAYBE GODLY DECISIONS. WE PRAY, GOD THAT, THEY WOULD CONSIDER EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHEN MAKING THAT DECISION. WE PRAY, GOD, THAT YOU BLESS THOSE THAT ARE FIRST AVENGERS, AND WE PRAY THAT POLICEMEN AND FIREMEN, ALL INVOLVED IN THIS GREAT CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE UNDER YOU IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. >> AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN US IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [TEXAS PLEDGE] >> MUNS: COME ON OVER, GUYS. THIS IS AWESOME. >> WHO HAS THE BIG EQUIPMENT? [APP [APPLAUSE] >> MUNS: THE AMERICAN RED CROSS IS PRESENTED CHRIS ALBIN A LIFE-SAVING AWARD FOR SAVING A LIFE WHILE ON VACATION IN MEXICO. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MEGAN DALGAR INTERIM CEO OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, NORTH TEXAS REGION, BRIAN MERNIHAN, REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS DREKT DIRECTOR, DOYLE RAIDER, REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, AND OBVIOUSLY, CHRIS AND HIS WIFE, KELLY. HI. HOW ARE YOU? >> I'M MEGAN DALGER, THE RED CROSS REGION HERE IN TEXAS. I'M JOINED BY BOARD MEMBER JANELLE ANDERSON WHO LIVES RIGHT HERE IN PLANO. WE ARE THRILLED TO BE IN THIS R OF A PRESTIGIOUS RED CROSS LIFE-SAVING AWARD. EMERGENCIES CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME. THEY CAN HAPPEN IN A SWIMMING POOL ON A HOT DAY. THEY CAN HAPPEN AT A FAMILY WEDDING. THEY CAN HAPPEN EVEN IN YOUR HOME OR IN AN OFFICE. REGARDLESS OF WHEN AND WHERE EMERGENCIES OCCUR, THEY SO OFTEN HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON. A CROWD OF PEOPLE STANDING AROUND STARING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WONDERING WHO SHOULD ACT AND TRYING T REMEMBER WHAT TO DO. LAST APRIL HEROICALLY CHRIS ALBIN KNEW WHAT TO DO. WE'RE HERE TO HONOR CHRIS TODAY WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS CERTIFICATE OF MERIT. THIS CERTIFICATE OF MERIT IS THE OLDEST OF THE RED CROSS LIFE-SAVING AWARDS. ORIGINATING IN 1911, THE CERTIFICATE OF MERIT IS BESTOWED UPON A RED CROSS-TRAINED INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD NO OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY, BUT DID SO ANYWAY. AWARD RECIPIENTS IN ITS 100-PLUS YEARS HAVE BEEN LIFEGUARDS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND EVERYDAY CITIZENS. AND TODAY WE'RE ABOUT TO ADD ONE MORE PERSON TO THAT LIST OF LIFE-SAVING HEROES. WHILE VACATIONING LAST APRIL, CHRIS AND HIS WIFE, KELLY, NOTICED A WOMAN FLOATING FACE-DOWN IN A SWIMMING POOL. HE APPROACHED HER AND REALIZED THAT SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE. INSTINCTIVELY HE ROLLED HER OVER. SEEING THAT SHE HAD A WEAK PULSE AND BLUEPS,HRIS IMMEDIATELY GOT HER OUT OF THE POOL. HARKENING BACK TO HIS TRAINING, HE PUT HER INTO RECOVERY POSITION AND STAYED WITH HER UNTIL SHE STARTED TO IMPROVE. HE WAS BY HER SIDE THE ENTIRE TIME UNTIL MEDICAL PERSONNEL COULD ARRIVE. ON THAT DAY CHRIS'S ACTIONS HELPED SAVE THIS WOMAN'S LIFE. CHRIS ALBIN, ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS WE PRESENT TO YOU THE R CROSS CTIFICATE OF MERIT. THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST AWARDS -- [APPLAUSE] -- THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST AWARDS GIVEN TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR TEAM WHO SAVES OR SUSTAINS A LIFE BY USING SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE LEARNED IN A RED CROSS TRAINING SERVICES COURSE, AND THIS ACTION EXEMPLIFIES THE HIGHEST GRI OF CONCERN FOR ONE HUMAN TO ANOTHER. IT BEARS THE SIGNATUS OF E HONORARY CHAIRMAN OF THE AMRICAN RED CROSS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THE BOARD CHAIRMAN BONNIE MACALVIN HUNTER. IN MY 16 YEARS AT THE AMERICAN RED CROSS I'VE LEARNED THAT HEROES, THE BRAVE MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN, WHO ARE WILLING TO STEP FORWARD AND HELP A STRANGER DURING THEIR GREATEST TIMES OF NEED, ARE ALL AROUND US. BUT I'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT COMMON. BECAUSE CHRIS WAS ABLE TO ACT SO QUICKLY AND DECISIVELY DURING A CRISIS, HE SHOWED RARE AND EXTRAORDINAR COURAGE AND TRULY HEROIC ACTION. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO CHRIS FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING DURING THIS EMERGENCY SITUATION AND HELPING TO SAVE A LIFE. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> MUNS: THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ARE PRESENTING PUBLIC SERVICE AWARDS AND HONORING SEVERAL CITY OF PLANO FIRST RESPONDERS. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION PLANO CHAPTER. >> I'M STEVE, PRESIDENT OF THE PLANO CHAPTER OF SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. WE HAVE OVER 130 MEMBERS. ALL THAT'S REQUIRED IS THAT YOU HAVE A LINEAL DESCENDANT THAT EITHER FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTION OR CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANT MATERIAL OR FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE REVOLUTION. ON MY LEFT IS DAN REID, VICE PRESIDENT OF MEDALS AND AWARDS, AND WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT HIS GREAT WORK. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WOULD LIKE TO START AND CALL FORTH POLICE CHIEF ED DRAIN AND POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE YEAR DARREN WARD. WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? [APP [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. DARREN WAS SECTED AS OUR D. OFFICER OF THE YEAR LAST APRIL. THAT'S POTENTIALLY OVER 300 PEOPLE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED AND IT'S NOT SELECTED BY ME. IT'S MADE UP OF CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, POLICE OFFICERS AND SUPERVISORS, AND THEY SELECTED DARREN TO BE OUR OFFICER OF THE YEAR. WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF NOT THE BEST. HIS WORK IS RECOGNIZED YOU ABOUT EVERYONE. [APPLAUSE] >> NOW WE PRESENT OFFICER WARD WITH THE CERTIFICATE AND THE VERY NICE MEDAL. [LAUGHING] >> CLOSER TO THE CHIEF. >> OKAY. >> WELL DONE. [APPLAUSE] >> CHIEF, YOU CAN STAY HERE. NOW I ASK THE CIVILIAN OF THE YEAR AND I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME RIGHT. LEO YEN, TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. DID WE PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME OKAY? VERY GOOD. >> SHE'S OUR LIAISON IN OUR CRIME PREVENTION UNIT TO OUR ASIAN COMMUNITY. SHE, OF COURSE, SPEAKS MANDARIN SO, WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH. SHE IS, OF COURSE, OF EAST ASIAN HERITAGE, BUT SHE ALSO COMMUNICATES WITH OUR SOUTH ASIAN COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND SHE'S AN IMPORTANT COMUPONENT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT SHE DOES. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, CHIEF. [APPLAUSE] [APP [APPLAUSE] >> NOW WE ASK FIRE CHIEF CHRIS BIGGERSTAFF AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR MICHAEL BOATMAN TO PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> MICHAEL BOATMAAS BEEN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR 25 YEARS. IT'S A HUGE HONOR TO BE SELECTED FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR BECAUSE IT'S YOUR PEERS WHO NOMINATES YOU AND THEN ALSO WHO VOTE FOR THAT. IT'S A BIG DEAL TO BE FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR, AND HE IS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF GUYS THAT EVERY STATION OFFICER WANTS HIM AT THEIR STATION BECAUSE HE HOLDS EVERYONE AT THE STATION TO A REALLY HIGH STANDARD. IF YOU MESS UP, HE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHERE, IF I MESS THIS UP, HE WILL LET ME KNOW WHERE, YOU WANT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT AT YOUR STATION. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HONORING HIM BECAUSE IT'S WELL-DESERVED. THANK YOU, CHIEF. [APPLAUSE] >> WE HAVE ALL THE PICTURES? [APPLAUSE] >> AND NOW PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR SUSAN CARR AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST FOR THE YEAR REAGAN BRADSHAW. PLEASE COME FORWARD. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> SHE'S CALL TAKING DISPATCH TRAINING. SHE HAS ONE OF OUR FASTEST 9-1-1 ANSWER TIMES. SHE'S FN FOR HER POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND HER WILLINGNESS TO HELP HER PEERS LIKE HER POLICE OFFICER OF THE YEAR. SHE'S RECENTLY TAKEN ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TRAINING NEW EMPLOYEES AND IS A GREAT MENTOR TO THEM AND AN EXAMPLE. SHE WORKS THE NIGHT SHIFT, AND IS HE SETS A HIGH BAR FOR THE REST OF HER TEAM. WE'RE PROUD OF HIM. CONGRATULATIONS REAGAN. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S NOW OUR PLEASURE AND HONOR TO READ THE OATHS OF OFFICE GIVEN TONIGHT TO CITIZENS WHO WILL BE SERVING ON CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I ASK THAT MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE COME UP WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. BRENDA BEARD, ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COUNTRY, JAMES CANTRELL, LOUISE CHEN TAM CHAO-HAYES. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, SAMUEL JOHNSON, DYLAN RAFATY, WAYNE ROCK, DOUGLAS SHOCKEY, ARTHUR STONE, AND JANET STOVALL. BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION. BAN ALALI, DARYL BOWEN, ALEXANDRIA CHAO, WILLIAM CLAY, BRIAN KILLEBREW JOSEPH PYTCHER, AND GABRIELLE ROJAS. CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. JOSEPH PARKS. COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION. TOM ADAIR, STEPHANIE MACE, VIDAL, QUINANILLA JR., AMIT WARKAD. CULLRAL ARTS COMMISSION, RITA COSGROVE, ELISA KLEIN, EMILY MOORE, PETER WYNNE. HERITAGE COMMISSION. NAR ALE-RASOOL,AREN BOWEN, JANE WATSON. LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. BETSY CHAN, CLAIRE COTHREN, KUMAR NANDIGAM, AND MICHAEL TANN. PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD. YING CAO, BOB KEHR. PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION. J. MICHAEL BROUNOFF, GARY CARY, DAVID DOS. PLANO HOUSING FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARD. DAVID BARCH. CATHERINE CAVAVANT. RICHARD CO, JOHN DONOVAN. BRIAN, GREG HASTY, KIM HATCH, JONATHAN HETZEL, TIMOTHY HILL SHEP STALL AND DONNA STRAKER. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS? WILL TO THE BETH BEST OF YOUR A LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND THE CHAPTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY. YOU FURTHERMORE SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED, OR PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED NOR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR VALUABLE THING OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT AS REWARD TO SECURE YOUR APPOINTMENT, SO HELP YOU GOD. [ALL SAY I DO] >> MUS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW LET'S TAKE A CTURE. [APPLAUSE] [APP [APPLAUSE] >> MUNS: NOVEMBER 11th IS VETERANS DAY. IT'S TO HONOR ALL WHO SERBED, AND IT'S MY HONOR TO ASK COUNCILMAN RICK GRY. COUNCILMAN GRADY. THANK YOU, SIR. IT IS MY HONOR TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR VETERANS DAY TODAY. WHEREAS THE NATIONAL OBSERVANCE HONORING OUR VETERANS AND ITS ORIGINS AND ARMISTICE DAY COMMEMORATING THE END OF WORLD WAR I, BEFORE BEGINNING THE MORE INCLUSIVE VETERANS DAY AND DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 11th AS THE DAY TO HONOR OUR VETERANS EACH YEAR. WHEREAS VETERANS DAY IS A NATIONAL AND STATE HOLIDAY, IT SERVES AS AN IMPORTANT REMINDER FOR AMERICANS TO PAUSE AND RECOGNIZE OUR COURAGEOUS MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE HONORABLY SERVED IN ANY BRANCH OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES. IN THE ARMY, MARINES, NAVY, A FORCOAST GUARD, AND MERCHANT MARINES. IT IS FITTING AND APPROPRIATE TO PRAISE THEIR SELFLESS SERVICE SACRIFICES, AND ACTS OF BRAVERY THAT ALLOW AMERICANS TO ENJOY AN ABUNDANCE OF FREEDOM EVERY DAY. AND WHEREAS, ON THIS VETERANS DAY PLANO RECOGNIZES ALL PAST AND PRESENT MEMBERS OF OUR ARMED FORCES WHO HAVE PLACED OUR NATION'S SECURITY BEFORE OUR OWN CREATING A DEBT THAT WE CAN NEVER REPAY. WE OFFER THIS TRIBUTE AS OUR THANKS F THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE AND SERVING AS EXAMPLES TO ALL OF US AND PROMOTE A LEGACY OF PATRIOTISM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. AT THIS POINT, MAY I ASK THAT ALL OF THE VETERANS THAT ARE IN OUR CROWD TODAY, PLEASE STAND SO THAT I MAY FINISH THE PROCLAMATION. I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM -- VETERANS DAY IN MRONO. I DO ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN RECOGNIZING THE MANY SACRIFICES MADE BY OUR VETERANS AS WE EXTEND OUR HEART FELT APPRECIATION FOR THEM ANSWERING THE CALL TO DUTY IN DEFENDING OUR GREAT NATION. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND LADIES. [APPLAUSE] COMMENTS OF PUBLIC TERE. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. I DO HAVE SOME SPEESHGZ THIS EVENING. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL FRANCE. >> HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL FRANCE, AND TONIGHT I REPRESENT THE PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. AT THIS TIME I ASK ALL OF OUR TO PLEASE STAND.ARE HERE TONIGHT OUR LONGSTANDING ZONING LAWS PROHIBIT THE OPERATION OF EVERY TYPE OF TRANSIENT COMMERCIAL LODGING EXCEPT ONE, SHORT-TERM RENTALS. IT IS TIME TONIGHT TO ADD THEM TO THE LIST. FIRST, WE CALL ON THE CITY TO ENACT AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM, A FREEZE, A CAP, A PROHIBITION ON ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF PLANO WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. IT IS LL OVERDUE. WE MUST TE ACTION NOW AND CLOSE THE BARN DOOR. YOU HAVE THE LEGAL DUTY AND CAPACITY TO DO SO. IT IS THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO WHO HAVE LONGSTANDING EXPECTATIONS OF PRIVACY. IT IS THE RESIDENTS WHOSE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN BY THOSE ATTEMPTING TO EXPLOIT A LOOPHOLE IN THE LAW FOR FINANCIAL GAIN. THIS OPEN DOOR POLICY ALLOWS CRIMINALS TO HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT GHT INUR MIDST. SECOND, THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING WE REGISTER AND PERMIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. LET US BE CLEAR, ZONING RESTRICTIONS MUST OCCUR BEFORE REGISTRATION. WE ARE KIDDING OURSELVES IF WE THINK REGISTRATION ALONE WILL FIX THESE PROBLEMS. IT IS INEFFECTUAL AT BEST AND A WELCOME MAT FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO NOT WANT IN OUR CITY. WE DON'T WANT WELL-MANAGED BROTHELS OR WELL-MANNERED DRUG HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ANY MORE TN WE WANT LD AND DISRUPTIVE ONES. WE WANT ZERO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE ONE, WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY ARE FREE TO FILE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO LEGALIZE THEIR PRESENCE. HOWEVER, WE EXPECT OUR LEADERS, YOU IN THIS ROOM, TO PURSUE EVEY LEGAL AVENUE TO INSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR HOMES AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORTS TO HELP OUR CITY. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEEAKER IS STEVEN CURI CURIAKOS. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M A 19-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO AND A VOTING TAXPAYER. I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK WITH US, THE TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, TO RESOLVE OUR SHORT-TERM RENL CRISIS. SECOND, WE HAVEABELLED IT A CRISIS BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS GROWING AND OUR REMEDIATION EFFORTS AREN'T KEEPING PACE. WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING HERE REGULARLY SINCE APRIL. IN OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD A ONE-HOUR PRESENTATION FROM ABERNATHY, REUTER, BOYD, AND HEWLETT. THEY CITED SEVERAL CASES WHERE STRs HAVE PREVAILED AND SUGGESTED A PROACTIVE, PROHIBITIVE APPROACH. MENTION SOME SUCCESS MODELS LIKE ARLINGTON AND EMPHASIZE TIME WAS OF THE ESSENCE. CITIZENS WERE GIVEN 90-SECOND ALLOTMENTS TO RESPOND. THE COUNCIL MERGED WITH DECISIONS TO IMPLEMENT REGISTRATION AND PERMITTING FOUR STRs. THIS DESPITE THE FACT THAT MONTHS AGO WE EXPRESSED CONCERNS REGARDING THIS EXACT APPROACH. TO REITERATE, REGISTRATION IS INEFFECTIVE AND INACCURATE. CRIMINALS WON'T REGISTER. THAT FACT INSTANTLY SKEWS YOUR DATA, AND RENDERING THIS DATA USELESS FOR A DECISION-MAKING. PERMITTING IS ALSO PROBLEMATIC. PERMITTING COULD POSSIBLY BE USED -- TO RECAP, WE VOICE OUR CONCERNS BUT EITHER HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD OR UNDERSTOOD. THREE MINUTES SPEECHES TWICE MONTHLY WON'T RESOLVE THIS COMMUNICATION GAP. MEANWHILE, STRs ARE GROWING ACCORDING TO AIR DNA, AND STRs ARE BEING RACKING UP CART WINS. WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH. WE'RE SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THE HEAD OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE HEAD OF CODE COMPLIANCE TO REVIEW ARLINGTON'S STRATEGY. WE HAVE DONE SO ALREADY OURSELVES. WE NEED TO EXPEDITE ZONING RESTRICTIONS LIKE ARLINGTON DID TO CONTROL STR SMALL SPRAWL. THIS ACTION WOULD ALIGN WITH THE PROACTIVE PROHIBITIVE STRATEGY IT'S FOR RESTRICTIONS WITH GREAT SUCCESS. IT'S ALSO ADMISSIBLE IN COURT WHEREAS OUR LAWYERS HAVE FOUND REGISTRATION DATA SOMETIMES EASILY THROWN OUT. ANDREW FORTUNE HAS REFUSED OUR REQUEST TO MEET CITING THAT THIS FORUM, A THREE-MINUTE SOUNDBYTE, IS THE BES WAY T SOLVE THE CRISIS SITUATION. WHY SHOULD YOU WORK WITH US? WE'RE TAX-PAYING VOTERS, CITIZENS OF PLANO. WE'RE FREE LABOR. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2017 WHEN THE TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> WE HAVE EXPERTISE, LAWYERS, DATA SCIENTISTS, CONSULTANTS, YOU NAME IT. AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M OUT OF TIME. IS THIS THE BEST OUR CITY CAN DO? THANKS. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON OVE OVERALL. >> I WAS WALKING THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD LAST WEEK ON A DIFFERENT ROUTE AND CAME ACROSS THE WORST SMELLING CIGARETTE SMOKE. IT SORT OF SMELLED LIKE A CIGAR, BUT NASTIER. SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN TWO SMOKERS. I NEVER SAW THE SMOKERS BECAUSE THEY WERE SMOKING IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT IS IT DOESN'T STAY IN THEIR BACKYARD. I QUICKLY KEPT WALKING, BUT ENDED UP COUGHING FOR AT LEAST 30 MINUTES AFTER I GOT HOME TRYING TO GET THE SMALL PARTICULARATE MATTER OUT OF MY THROAT. I FELT VERY SORRY FOR THE 15 OR SO PARENTS AND CHILDREN WHO WERE WAITING AT THE BUS STOP. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THEY HAVE TO STAND THERE UNTIL THE BUS COMES. THE SMOKERS CAN GO SMOKE INSIDE OF THEIR HOUSE INSTEAD OF FOULING THE AIR FOR EVERYONE ELSE JUST TRYING TO HAVE A NICE WALK OR WAIT FOR A SCHOOL BUS. WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS? Y DO YOU ALLOW THIS? A SOUTH JERSEY TOWN BANS SMOKING ON STREETS, STOOPS, AND STEPS. THEY DO ALLOW IT INSIDE OF PEOPLE'S HOMES. AT LEAST THE THREE OF THE SEVEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE SMOKERS. THEY STATED THE NUISANCE AND THE LITTER FROM SMOKING. I BELIEVE THEY REALIZE THAT NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE OTHERS MISERABLE OR SICK. EVERY TIME YOU SMELL SMOKE, I WANT YOU TO THINK, WHY AM I PUTTING UP WITH THIS? WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHTO P CANCER-CAUSING CARCINOGENS INTO MY BODY? AS YOU SEE A PERSON DANGLING A CIGARETTE OUT OF THE WINDOW OF THEIR CAR, I WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELF, WHY IS HE EXPOSING ME TO SMOKE WHEN HE IS KEEPING IT OUTSIDE OF HIS CAR? WHY DOESN'T HE KEEP IT INSIDE OF HIS CAR? ROLL UP THE WINDOWS AND KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. EVERY TIME YOU ARE AT A STORE, AND YOU SEE A PERSON WHO GETS OUT OF THEIR CAR, WALKS OVER TO THE BUILDING TO SMOKE, ASK YOURSELF, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST STAY IN THEIR CAR AND SMOKE? AS YOU WALK THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE ASSAULTED WITH CIGARETTE SMOKE, ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE THEY NOT SMOKING INSIDE OF THEIR HOUSE? WE KNOW THE ANSWER. THEY KNOW IT IS DANGEROUS. THEY WANT THEIR NICOTINE FIX, BUT DO NOT WANT TO BE EXPOSED AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE TO THE SECOND HAND SMOKE. SOME DO NOT SMOKE IN THEIR CAR OR THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO STINK. BUT WHY SHOULD WE PUT UP WITH THIS? ASK YOURSELF WHY A FEW CAN FOUL THE AIR SO BAD FOR ALL THE OTHERS WHO JUST WANT CLEAN BREATHABLE AIR? ASK YOURSELF, WHAT OTHER SUBSTANCE YOU CAN INFLICT ON OTHERS WITHOUT IT BEING CONSIDERED AN ASSAULT. >> 20 SECONDS. >> YOU CAN'T EVEN POUR WATER ON ANOTHER PERSON, AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T POUR IT DOWN THEIR THROATS. CIGARETTE SMOKE, WHEN IT TOUCHES YOU AND ENTERS YOUR BODY IS AN ASSAULT. THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GLEN SM SMITH. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. MY NAME IS GLEN SMITH. I'M A PROUD VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AND A PLANO RESIDENT FOR OVER 25 YEARS. I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A VOTING RESIDENT OF PLANO TO IMPLORE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF PLANO'S HOMEOWNERS TO PLACE AN IMMEDIATE CESSATION ON NEW STRs IN PLANO AND WORK WITH YOUR CITIZENS TO ABOLISH SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHICH RESIDE WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES. ACCORDING TO AIR DNA PLANO CURRENTLY HAS BETWEEN 715 AND 943 STRs THAT WE KNOW OF. IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2019 PLANO HAD 541. THE PACE AT WHICH THE STRS OPPOSITION WITH OUR CITY'S RECT- VISION STATES STATEMENT, WHICH IS PLANO IS A GLOBAL ECONOMIC LEADER BONDED BY A SHARED SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE. THIS BEARS REPEATING. BONDED BY A SHARED SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE. NEXT WEEKEND IS HALLOWEEN WEEKEND. AS OF THIS MORNING, THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 145 HOTELS FOR RENT BETWEEN AIRBNB AND VRBO. THIS MEANS OUT OF 715 ESTIMATED PROPERTIES LISTED ON BOTH PLATFORMS, AS OF THIS MORNING 570 ARE RENTED FOR THE WEEKEND AND MORE TO COME AS THE WEEKEND NEARS. 80% OF THE INVENTORY. MUCH HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE 53% HISTORICAL OCCUPANCY AIR DNA CALCULATES ON PLANO. AS WE HAVE A RENTAL, 100 FEET FROM OUR HOME, WE HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF AN UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE THIS WEEKEND. HOW ABOUT YOU? WE ASK, WE PLEAD WITH YOU, PLEASE RETHINK YOUR ACTIONS REGARDING PERMITTING THE REBELLING STRAGS OF THESE BUSINESSES. BASED ON EXPERIENCES OF MANY CITIES BEFORE YOU, SOME SINCE THE EARLY '90s, YOUR REACTION TO THIS PROBLEM WILL NOT YIELD THE DATA YOU SEEK. JUST ASK AUSTIN, DALLAS, AND SO MANY OTHER CITIES AROUND THE GLOBE HOW IT WORKED FOR THEM. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO LEGISLATE AND PROHIBIT THE EXPANSION OF THESE BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IMMEDIATELY. WE FEAR -- WE KNOW IFOU FAIL TO ACTN BEHALF OF YOUR TAX-PAYING HOMEOWNERS, YOUR RESIDENTS, THE PROBLEM WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO REGARDING A SEX TRAFFICKING RING WILL PALE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS AHEAD. WE, THE PEOPLE, STRONGLY DEMAND THE CITY COUNCIL WORK ALONGSIDE VOTING RESIDENTS TO CREATE MEANINGFUL REGULATION AGAINST PROLIFERATION OF THESE BUSINESSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS RULING AND YOUR HESITANCY TO STOP STRs. WE GET IT. HOWEVER, WE ALSO ASK YOU WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE LAW LIKE THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, TEXAS, AND OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND STRICTLY AND SWIFTLY REGULATE THE PROLIFERATION OF THESE BUSINESSES OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. >> MUNS: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> MUNS: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> BILL BAKER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL BAKER. I'M HERE TO REITERATE WHAT YOU JUST HEARD. THERE ARE 943 OF THESE THAT WE KNOW OF. THAT IS 74% MORE THAN THERE WAS THREE YEARS AGO. 25% GROWTH A YEAR. I WISH I RAN A BUSINESS THAT WAY. I WOULD BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. I KNOW WE ALL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. THE CITY HAS RELATIONSHIPS IN A 2018 AGREEMENT WITH FDR TO COLLECT TAX. YOU CAN SUPPORT THEM OR YOU ARE SUPPORT THE PLANO RESIDENTS THAT VOTED YNOFFICE. WE NEED YOUR HELP. YOU NEED OURS. LSTEN TO WHAT GLEN JUST SAID. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTS ON OUR COALITION THAT CAN HELP. LET US HELP. ASK US TO HELP YOU. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME ENDPOINT. AS GLEN SAID, IN THE CITY'S VISION THAT ENDS WITH UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT'S WHYE'RE HERE. THAT'S WHY YOU LIVE HERE. I'M SURE. I EXPECT YOU TO WORK WITH US AND STOP WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER IF WE DON'T STOP WHAT'S HAPPENING. PLANO'S UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE LOST. THINK ABOUT THAT. MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. LET US HELP YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MARIA BOWER. >> I WAS BORN IN NEW YORK, AND I TALK VERY FAST. MY NAME IS MARIA BOWER. WE ARE BOTH NAVY VETERANS FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS WE HAVE BEEN VOTING TAX PAYING HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO AND HAVE AUTHORIZE YESLY ENJOYED IT UNTIL AN STR MOVED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL BUS STOP. THIS STR, BY THE WAY, IS RENTED I'M HERE TO MAKE TWO POINTS. THE FIRST IS BASED ON THE PROBLEM FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. THE SECOND IS BASED ON A PROPOSED SOLUTION. WITH REGARD TO PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, THIS IS NOT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. THIS IS WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. LAST MONTH WE LATER REALIZED IT WAS A WELL-ORGANIZED BROTHEL THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM MY HOME. I SAW 20 OUT OF STATE MEXICO LICENSE PLATES WITH MULTIPLE MEN CARRYING BACKPACKS. I SAW MY NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT CLEARLY BE WOMEN INVOLVED IN SEX TRAFFICKING. ONE WOMAN WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE BEING ASSISTED IN A CARE REEKING OF MARIJUANA. ANOTHER SAW 30 MEN AND FIVE NAKED WOMEN IN THE POOL OF THIS HOME. UNFORTUNATELY, SO DID HER SON. WE SAW WHAT APPEARED TO BE NITROUS OXIDE TANKS. THE POLICE HAD BEEN CALLED TO THIS RESIDENCE SIX TIMES IN THE PAST, THERE WERE NO CALLS FOR THESE TWO INCIDENTS. I LATER REALIZED WHY THIS HAPPENED. FIRST, ALTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, IT WAS NOT CLEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON UNTIL ALL THE NEIGHBORS PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER. WE ARE NOT TRAINED SURVEILLANCE NOR SHOULD WE BE. JUST LIKE YOU, WE ARE WORKING AND RAISING FAMILIES OUTSIDE OF REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH OBSERVANCE, WE ARE NOT PAID BY THE CITY OF PLANO, NOR ARE WE MOTEL SECURITY. CRIMINALS KNOW THIS. SECOND, I LEARNED OF A MORE DISTURBING REASON WHY POLICE WERE NOT CALLED. FEAR. WE HAD GONE FROM AN STR BEING A NUISANCE ALMOST EVERY OTHER FEAR.ND TO ONE THAT HAS CREATED- THIS IS FEAR OF RELE THAT YAGS. TIS IS ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THESE ARE NOT NOISE COMPLAINTS. THE POLICE CHIEF HAD HIS LIEUTENANT CONTACT ME. IT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED. I SAY TO YOU, WE ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN THE PLANO THAT WE CHOSE. STRs ARE LISTED ON INTERNATIONAL SITES THAT WE KNOW OF AND SOME WE DO NOT. CRIMINALS FROM ALL OVER THE U.S., MEXICO, AND BEYOND KNOW THESE HOMES ARE MOTELS WITH NO BACKGROUND CHECKS OR SECURITY. OTHER CITIES HAVE BANNED STRs, AND THESE CRIMINALS ARE PREYING ON THE NAY EVETY OF THE CITY O PLANO. FOR ALMOST OVER 900 HOUSES IN PLANO IS WONDERING WHICH IS GOING TO THE PEDOPHILE SEX TRAFFICKING RING. HERE'S A PRIORITIZED ORDER OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. NUMBER ONE, REWRITE TO ZONING TO BAN STRs WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, CLOSE UP OUR DOORS. WE HAVE HAD 70 NEW STRs OPEN SHOP. HIRE THIRD PARTY DATA COLLECTION TO ACCURATELY LOCATE STRs. ARLINGTON HIRED A COMPANY CALLED HOST COMPLIANCE. THEY BANNED STRs IN NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DID NOT REGISTER STRs IN RESPONDENT'S EXHIBITAL NEIGHBORHOODS. NUMBER THREE, EXECUTE ELIMINATION OF EXISTING STRs AND RESPONDENT'S EXHIBITAL AREAS BASED ON THE SAME THIRD PARTY COLLECTED DATA. ARLINGTON IS AN EXAMPLE. NUMBER FOUR, THE CITY OF PLANO HAS THE OPTION TO DEFINE NONRESIDENTIAL ENTERTAINMENT ZONING. YOU CAN REGISTER Rs ALL YOU WANT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS ARLINGTON FINAL DID. THAT'S WHERE THEY USED ARLINGTON REGISTRATION. THEY BANNED STRs IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WORKED TO GET RID OF THEM. DO WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO HOST WHAT THEY HAVE BANNED? COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT IS PLANO WAITING FOR? EACH DAY WE DELAY, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE. BESIDES DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND FORFEITING THE SENSE OF BLOCK BELONGING TO FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE CRIME SCENES WAITING TO PPEN. I URGE YOU TO ACT IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> THE LAST SPEAKER IS JAMES LOCK LOCKRIDGE. >> CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR. I'VE KIND OF BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF TRYING TO LET IT COOL OFF AND COME T A RESOLUTION, BUT I DON'T THINK WE GOT ONE. I'M GETTING THESE AGAIN. COME ON, GUYS. I SAT HERE TONIGHT AND LISTEN TO THIS CRAP, AND I'M SITTING HERE FIGHTING. WHERE IS CODE COMPLIANCE? IT NEEDS TO CHANGE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THE STATE IS WORKING ON STUFF, SO IMAUTO TRYING TO BACK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHEN YOUR OFFICERS ARE GOING ROGUE ON ME, IT'S GOT TO STOP. I MEAN, LITERALLY ROGUE. RIDICULOUS. THAT BROUGHT TO ME AN ATTORNEY -- AN AG'S OPINION FROM 1982. I'M GOING TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT 2009, TEXAS AGRICULTURAL CODE RIGHT HERE. OKAY? TEXAS AGRICULTURAL CODE, SECTION 251 -- EXCUSE ME. 251.004, A NUISANCE ACTION. SECTION A. IT'S VERY CLEARLY, VERY CLEAR THAT THE STATE HAS THE LAW. I'M GOING TO READ THE LAW. NO NUISANCE ACTION MAY BE BROUGHT AGAINST AN AGRICULTURAL IN OPETION FOR ONE YEAR OR BEEN MORE PRIOR TO THE DATE OF WHICH THE ACTION IS BROUGHT. IF THE CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES COMPLAIN AS CONSTITUTING THE BASIS OF A NUISANCE ACTION HAVE EXISTED, IT'S UNCHANGED SINCE THE ESTABLISHED DATE OF THE OPERATION. NOW, GUYS, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS DOWN HERE FARMING 1994. OKAY? HASN'T CHANGED ONE BIT. SO TO BE HARASSED BY CODE COMPLIANCE WHEN THERE IS PLANO AT LEGACY THE TOLL ROADS WHERE THE TWO TURN ROAD IS, WHY IS THE GRASS 5 FEET TALL? MARK AND JACK MET ME THERE. RIGHT THERE AT MY FIELD. WE LOOKED ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE GRASS WAS 5 TO 6 FEET TALL. TO THIS DAY IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. I WAS PROMISED THAT IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. THERE IS DIRT FILES PILED UP ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. IT LOOKS WORSE THAN MY FIELD. SECTION B MUCH THIS LAW VERY CLEARLY SAYS A PERSON WHO BRINGS A NUISANCE ACTION FOR DAMAGE OR INJUNCTION LEAF AGAINST AN AGRICULTURAL OPERATION THAT HAS EXISTED FOR ONE YEAR OR MORE PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THIS ACTION IS INSTITUTED OR VIOLATES THE PROVISION OF SUBSECTION A OF THIS SECTION IS LIABLE, IS LIABLE, UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S LIABLE TO THE AGRICULTURAL OPERATOR FOR ALL COSTS AND EXPENSES OCCURRED IN THE DEFENSE OF THIS ACTION. >> 20 SECONDS. >> INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ATTORNEY FEES, COURT COSTS, TRAVEL, AND OTHER RELATED INCIDENTAL EXPENSES. GUYS, I'VE BEEN DECENT. I'VE BEEN NICE, AND I'MTIRED. TIRED OF BEING NICE. WHOEVER IS IN MY DISTRICT, REACH OUT TO ME AND GET A RESOLUTION OR I'M COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. MUNS. [APPLAUSE] >> MUNS: LET'S MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGE, OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> M MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTEDED. SECOND. >> MUNS: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT ITEM. >> THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS TH. >> SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS, NO FURTHER BUSINESS. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [ADJOURNED 7:54 P.M.]