>> STAY TUNED, CITY COUNCIL IS NEXT ON GOV-TV. >> Coun. Davis: CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WE ARE ASKING OUR COUNCIL SERVICES DIRECTOR TO LEAD US IN THAT. MS. YARA. (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE) >> TODAY'S MEALING IS BEING HELD BY ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEDIA ALL HAVE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS LIVE THROUGH PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON 16, GOV WEBSITE AND YOUTUBE. ALL LIVE STREAMS ARE ACCESSED SMARTPHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. >> OUR STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA PHONE TO ASSIST IF YOU NEED HELP FINDING VIDEOS. CALL 768-3100 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BETWEEN 8:00 AND 5:00 FOR ASSISTANCE. UNDER THESE REVISED PROCEDURES FOR MEETINGS CITY COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AS WELL AS WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 1:00 WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'LL GET TO LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU ARE TUNEDDED IN THAT STAY IN THE WAITING ROOM UNTIL MODERATOR BRINGS YOU IN. WE BEGIN WITH A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS, BEGINNING WITH COUNCILLOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: I DO NOT HAVE THE PROCLAMATION IN FRONT OF ME HAS ANYBODY ELSE GOT THAT? STAFF? >> Coun. Davis: JUST A SECOND, WE'LL PULL THAT UP FOR YOU. >> WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR JONES PRESENTATION FIRST. HANGOUT WITH US, WE'RE SORT THE AGENDA AND BRING YOU RIGHT BACK. COUNCILOR JONES YOU HAVE PRESENTATION FROM APD. WOULD YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOUR GUEST AND GET US STARTED. >> Coun. Jones: THIS IS PRESENTATION ABOUT STAFFING DONE BY ACTING CHIEF MEDINA. AND YEAH. THERE IS SOMETHING UP THERE, SO IT MUST BE. WELCOME CHIEF MEDINA. OR WHOMEVER. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION ON OUR STAFFING REPORT. WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE FIRST LINES AND GO THROUGH IT. HERE IS STAFFING NUMBERS FROM 2008 TO 20. IF YOU LOOK AT 2008 WE HAD 1100 OFFICERS. WE GOT AS LOW AS 832, 831 RESPECTIVELY IN 2015 AND 16. IN 2018, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE UP QUITE A BIT, A LITTLE BIT IN 2018 AND QUITE A BIT IN 2019. 2020 WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 985. AND WE ALSO A BREAK DOWN OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 33 CADETS IN TAKE CLEARING UP TO GO INTO SERVICE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 68 PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD. WE HAVE CURRENTLY 35 REMAINING IN CLASS 123 AND CNM HAS 19 -- ACTUALLY 18 PEOPLE STILL IN THE PROCESS AND WE HAVE A LATERAL CLASS WITH 12 STUDENTS SO THAT SHOULD BRING US RIGHT ABOUT 68 MORE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET FROM HERE UNTIL THE SPRING THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. IN FY 21, WE ARE ALSO PLANNING ON CLASS 124. WE ACTUALLY HAVE 92 PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE AT THIS POINT. I WAS ADVISED OF THAT THIS MORNING. THAT JANUARY CLASS WE'LL PUSH TO MARCH. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL -- BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY GET ABOUT 50 TO 60 PEOPLE THROUGH OUR ACADEMY CLASS AND LOOKS LIKE WE CAN DO MORE THAN THAT. WE ARE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER GROUP THROUGH CNM WHICH STARTS IN JANUARY. AND THEN IF WE PUSH BACK OUR DATE UNTIL MARCH, THAT ENABLE STUDENTS TO GET BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE 200 PEOPLE TO TEST. THAT WOULD GIVE US ADDITIONAL 80 PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE IN THE SPRING OF '21. WE ARE HOPING THAT THOSE CHANGES, AS YOU CAN SEE, FY 18 WE GOT 96 AND IN FY 20107. THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT OUR ACADEMY CLASSES, GRADUATES. 102, 83 AND 69 IN THESE YEARS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 107 AND THE 96 IS WE DID BRING SOME PEOPLE BACK IN CERTAIN TIME FRAMES THAT WERE AT A LEVEL THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH ACADEMY. DEPUTY CHIEF IS AN EXAMPLE. SO, THAT IS WHY THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE. THEY WEREN'T ACADEMY CLASS GRADUATES BUT ADDITIONS. AS WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, EACH YEAR APD HOLDS A 76 AND FALL CLASS OF APPROXIMATELY 50 CADETS. WE'LL SEND ANOTHER 20 TO CNM LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY. INSTALLATION TAKING OVER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I AM WORKING TO GET THAT IN THE SPRING IF WE COULD CONTINUE RECRUITING EFFORTS AND ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SECOND CLASS AT CNM. IT HELPS US MEET OUR NUMBERS. >> WE ANTICIPATE REACHING 1200 OFFICERS IN DECEMBER OF 2022. APD CURRENTLY 985. THIS NUMBER IS FLUCTUATING. WE HAVE PEOPLE SEPARATED FROM THE CITY FROM TIME TO TIME AND THAT NUMBER CAN CHANGE. PROFESSIONAL STANDARD AND ACCOUNTABILITY BUREAU, INTERNAL AFFAIRS FORCE DIVISION HAS 31 INDIVIDUALS. OVERSIGHT HAS SIX. INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROFESSIONAL STANDARD AS 10 AND ACADEMY DIVISION HAS -- BASICALLY THAT IS 33 NOW ON THE JOB TAKE. THAT NUMBER J O B TRAINING. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT GRADUATE FROM THE LAST CLASS AND ARE OUT AND ABOUT SINCE THIS DOCUMENT WAS CREATED. CIP HAS 20 DETECTIVES SIGNED TO IT. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. WE CAN HOLD QUESTIONS TO THE END WE'LL ANSWER THEM ALL. NEXT PAGE SHOULD BE -- HOLD ON A SECOND. >> SPECIAL OPERATIONS BUREAU, IT HAS 120 PEOPLE. INCLUDES AVIATION, HOMELAND SECURITY, TACTICAL SECTION, CANINE UNIT, BOMB UNIT, DWI SECTION. OUR TRAFFIC SECTION AND PRISONER TRANSPORT. IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SECTION ARE NOT SWORN OFFICERS. THAT MAY AFFECT THE 120 BUT THEY HAVE A PRIMARY ROLE. MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND SUPPORT BUREAU, THAT IS OPERATIONS REVIEW. RECORDS DIVISION, REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION TOTAL OF 24 OFFICERS ASSIGNED IT TO. ALL THOUGH THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER, 24, SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THERE ARE ACTUALLY ASSIGNED -- ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER SOME KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION AND WE RELIEVED THEM FROM THE FIELD. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, IN THE INVESTIGATION BUREAU, ONE MORE SLIDE SHUT POP UP. CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION HAS 55. CRIMINAL SECTION HOMICIDE UNIT HAS 10. WE JUST GAVE THEM TWO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR 12. I SPOKE TO THE SERGEANT OF HOMICIDE AND HE EXPLAINED HOW HE FEELS THEY COULD HAVE MORE SUCCESS IN THE HOMICIDE UNIT IF WE GAVE THEM 12 BECAUSE IT PUTS THEM ON ROTATION WHERE DETECTIVES NOT ON CALL WOULD HAVE ONE MONTH FREE AND CLEAR TO WORK ON CURRENT CASES WHICH IS ONE OF THE STRUGGLES THEY ARE HAVING. WE DID GIVE THEM TWO ADDITIONAL AND LOOKING AT ADDING A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TO HELP WITH CASE PREPARATION, KIND OF LIKE THE SHIELD UNIT DOES FOR THE FIELD. WE ARE GOING TO EXTEND THAT OUT TO HOMICIDE UNIT TO GET THE CASES GOING WITHOUT USING SWORN OFFICER TIME. ARMED ROBBERY, SIX. MISSING PERSONS, EIGHT. MULTI AGENCY TASKFORCES, FOUR. SEX CRIMES HAS 9. SPECIAL ENFORCEMENT SECTION ADDITIONAL 12 TASKFORCE OFFICERS. AUTO THEFT 10 AND STREET CRIMES UNIT HAS 6 OFFICERS THAT ARE -- SCHOOLS AREN'T OPEN AND WE HAVE THAT UNIT HELP WITH OTHER DUTIES. INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES DIVISION, GANGS HAS 6. INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT WITH SEVEN. WE HAVE ORGANIZED CRIME UNIT AND STRATEGIC CRIME INTELLIGENCE UNIT, WE HAVE A NARCOTICS SECTION AND EVERYTHING IN THE CRIME LAB WITH A GOOD PORTION OF THE PROCESSING DONE BY CIVILIANS SO WE CAN FREE UP SWORN OFFICERS. AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT SEPTEMBER UP WE ARE UP 1000 OFFICERS. WE HAVE HAD STEADY INCREASE SINCE 2017 WITH THE SHARPER INCREASE IN 2020. WE ARE HOPING TO CONTINUE THIS. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 52 SEPARATIONS IN '19 AND IN '20, 58 SEPARATIONS. THE CHANGES IN PRA WHERE PEOPLE WERE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE AT 20 YEARS AND BACK THEN IT WASN'T BENEFICIAL FOR OFFICERS TO WORK BEYOND 20, THEY ARE NOW ABLE TO GO TO 90%. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE ARE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE AT 20 YEAR MARK, THERE IS INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO STAY ADDITIONAL FIVE QUERIES AND NINE MONTHS. THAT IS YOUR PRESENTATION IN A NUT SHELL AND I STAND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCILOR JONES. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I LISTENED BUT I DIDN'T CATCH A LOT OF THIS. TELL ME VERY SIMPLISTICICALLY, HOW MANY OFFICE EVERS -- I KNOW IT IS NOT EXACT BUT HOW MANY OFFICERS SWORN OFFICERS DO YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE ON THE STREET ON AN AVERAGE EVERYDAY OF THE WEEK IN ALBUQUERQUE? POLICING, NOT HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION. DOING SAFETY PATROL, WHATEVER. I DIDN'T GET THOSE WORDS RIGHT. I KNOW I JUST DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK -- I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO ASK. >> MEDINA. WE ARE WORKING TO GET SOME EXACT NUMBERS TO YOU. AT THE MEETINGS LAST WEEK THAT QUESTION CAME UP AND AT PEAK TIMES WE HAVE UP TO 32 OFFICERS FOR AREA COMMANDS AVAILABLE TO TAKE CALLS AND LOWER TIMES THERE ARE LOWER NUMBERS WHICH MAY BE 6 TO EIGHT DEPENDING ON TIME OF DAY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE TO TRY TO BECOME MORE PROACTIVE WE STARTED WORKING WITH ALL THE INVESTIGATIVE UNITS AND SUPPORT UNITS AND WE HAVE BEEN OUT WORKING OPERATIONS. LAST FIVE WEEKS WE WORKED OPERATIONS THAT WE CALL ANTI-CRIME INITIATIVE. THEY ARE AVERAGING SOMETHING OVER 50 ARREST AS WEEK. THOSE OFFICERS AMOUNT TO 20 AND ARE PUT IN THE FIELD TO ASSIST FIELD WITH PROACTIVE POLICE WORK AND TAKING AN INDIVIDUAL INTO CUSTODY COMMITTING CRIMES. WE HOPE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW WE RECOGNIZE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PIT OUR SWORN OFFICERS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, THE FIELD IS A PRIORITY. I HAVE HAD A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS WITH ALL DIVISIONS ALMOST AT THIS POINT. I MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT I WAS A FIELD OFFICER FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF MY CAREER, I SUPPORT THE FIELD. I KNOW THE TOUGH JOB THEY HAVE AND WE HAVE TO FIND CIVILIAN SOLUTIONS AND SUPPORT SOLUTIONS FOR ALL THE OTHER DIVISIONS WHERE WE CAN AND MAKE SURE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD WE CONTINUE TO PUT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE IN THE FIELD TO RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE. THIS MORNING I ALSO TASKED DEPUTY CHIEF DEGREE AGRICULTURE OWE AND RIVERA, TASKED THEM WITH FINDING MORE SOLUTIONS TO RESPONDING TO CALLS WHERE WE CAN CURB CALLS FOR SERVICE BUT WE NEED TO HAVE OFFICERS GO OUT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY FOLLOW-UP? >> Coun. Jones: THAT WAS HELPFUL BUT TROUBLE. HEARING THE NUMBERING OF OFFICERS WE HAVE OUT THERE ON THE STREET. AT ANY GIVEN TIME. PERHAPS, I AM NOT GOING TO TRY TO GET TO SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOUR INFORMATION IS ACCURATE. IT IS DIFFICULT FOR A LAY PERSON TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE HAVE HAVE A CITY OF RECEIVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE AND I KNOW I NEED AN EDUCATION AND PEOPLE AT HOME WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE TOO. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EDUCATION ON HOW THE SYSTEM IS HANDLED AND WHEN WE HAVE JUST A FEW SWORN OFFICERS OUT THERE AND WE GET A PRIORITY CALL, IT WILL TAKE FIVE CARS WITH ONE OR TWO OFFICERS IN EACH CAR. HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT AND KEEP HANDLING THE OTHER CALLS IN THE CITY. CHIEF I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER THAT NOW. I WOULD HOPE AS YOU FIND TIME YOU COME UP WITH ANSWERS ON THAT AND TRY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND IT. THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS WE GET AS WE ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. CRIME IS GETTING WORSE. I NEVER SEE AN OFFICER. SPEEDING IS HORRIFIC THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND DANGEROUS. WRECKS ARE UP. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? PERHAPS CAN YOU YOU CAN REASSUE WHEN YOU GET YOURSELF HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> MEDINA: I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN ANSWER RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS THOSE NUMBERS WERE PER AREA COMMAND. WHEN YOU TIMES THOSE TIMES 6, WE HAVE SIX AREA COMMANDS WORTH OF PEOPLE. I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO DISPATCH AND AREA COMMANDERS AND MADE THEM AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THEY NEED TO DISPATCH FROM ONE AREA COMMAND TO A NEARBY AREA COMMAND, THEY CAN DO THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING I LEARNED FROM FIRE. FIRE IS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN CROSS DISPATCHING MAKING SURE THAT ALL ARE ANSWERED IN A TIMELY FASHION. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE AREA COMMAND THAT ISN'T BUSY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OFFICERS ARE ASSISTING OTHERS WITH THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM ONE AREA COMMAND IN NEED OF THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND PILOTED A PROJECT LAST YEAR OF HAVING LIEUTENANT IN DISPATCH AND ASKING THAT LIEUTENANT TO SEE HOW THEY COULD DISPATCH THOSE CALLS AND SHARE THOSE RESOURCES. WE ARE WORKING AND DEVELOPING THAT PROCESS. THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND SOME OF THE IDEAS IS HOW DO WE GET RESOURCES TO WHERE WE NEED THEM ON A SPECIFIC DAY AND TIME. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR GIBSON. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REPORT CHIEF. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO FAIR IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO, MY QUESTION IS AROUND ENLISTING, YOU KNOW. TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY INTERESTED IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND GET THEM TO COME ON BOARD. AND THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT WHENEVER IT WAS, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A LITTLE BIT. FIRST OF ALL ARE WE STILL PRIMARILY DOING THIS THROUGH THE WEBSITE OR IS YOUR DEPARTMENT DOING -- USING OTHER METHODS? >> MEDINA: I THINK THAT I LOOK THAT THE AS A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH. FIRST IS HAVING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TODAY AND ENSURE WE HAVE A LINE FOR TOMORROW. IN TERMS OF THE PIPELINE FOR TODAY, WE ARE DOING DIFFERENT METHODS. LIKE I STATED WE HAVE 200 PEOPLE THAT I WAS TOLD THIS MORNING ARE SET UP TEST IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. WE HAVE 92 PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE PAST SOME OF THE INITIAL STAGES. WE ARE SEEING GOOD RECRUITING NUMBERS COMING. AS OF COVID-19 AND INSECURITY OF CERTAIN TYPES OF JOBS AND FIELDS OF EMPLOYMENT HAVE REALLY BENEFITED US AND WE ARE TAKING AS MUCH ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS POSSIBLE. THOSE ARE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUTH INITIATIVES. ONE OF THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF YOUTH INITIATIVE, I RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO GET THEM INTERESTED IN A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PROGRAMS WE ARE LOOKING TO START, THEY ARE GEARED TO GET YOUNGER GENERATION THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT POLICE. WE PARTNER WITH FIRE, WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD IN A LOT OF THESE YOUTH INITIATIVES. OUR GOAL IS THAT SHORT TERM WISE WE RECRUIT HARD BUT WE START BUILDING A CULTURE WITH OUR YOUTH OF KEEPING THAT INTERESTS AND GETTING THEM INTERESTED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND A LOT OF YOUTH PROGRAMS ARE INTERNSHIPS. SOME OF THE CHANGES WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IN TYPES OF TRAINING, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CREATE A CONSISTENT PIPELINE TO FILL THESE POSITIONS SO NEXT GENERATIONS OF LEADERS DON'T HAVE THE SAME STRUGGLES WE HAVE AND WE COULD LOOK BACK AND SAY WE HAD FORETHOUGHT TO START THIS. >> Coun. Gibson: SO, THESE ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TIMES I AM SURE. VIRTUALLY EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS FACED WITH THE SAME THING SO I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUTH AND YOUTH PROGRAMS. I SEE THAT AS SORT OF ADDRESSING TWO THINGS. ONE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, AND HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE CONSIDER LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM BUT ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP KEEP DOWN THIS ANTI POLICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT HAS GREAT POTENTIAL TO DO MANY THINGS THERE. SO, REALLY, WHAT I AM WONDERING ABOUT IS THE ACTUAL RECRUITMENT THAT YOU ARE DOING, IS THAT JUST FOR THE HERE AND NOW, THE PEOPLE COMING NARE THEY COMING IN PRIMARILY THROUGH THE WEBSITE, SIR? >> MEDINA: I'LL HAVE TO GET EXACT NUMBERS BACK TO YOU WHAT NUMBERS ARE COMING IN FROM WHAT AREAS. IT DOES SEEM THAT AS PROACTIVE AS RECRUITING UNIT IS BECOMING WE ARE GETTING NUMBERS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS INCREASING FOR US. IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 68 PEOPLE IN PROCESS. WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE THE SAME IF NOT MORE IN THE SPRING SO I WILL RESEARCH THAT AND GET SOME EXACT NUMBERS BACK TO COUNCIL ON WHAT IS OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL VENUE IN RECRUITING INDIVIDUALS TO THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW AND WHERE IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE GETTING MOST APPLICANTS FROM. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: I HAVE A QUESTION, I JUST SEE QUICKLY REGARDING THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE DIVISION. I DIDN'T SEE A REAL NUMBER. (INAUDIBLE). >> MEDINA: I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART OF THAT QUESTION. >> Coun. Sena: HOW MANY STAFF THAT DISCUSSING INCLUDING CIVILIANS? >> MEDINA: I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT NUMBER BACK TO YOU. THE VAST MAJORITY OF SWORN. LET ME GET THAT NUMBER BACK TO YOU BEFORE WE FINISH THIS. WE'LL SEE IF THE CRIME LAB CAN GIVE US AN EXACT NUMBER ON THAT SHORTLY. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL PUT A HOLD ON THAT ONE. >> Coun. Benton: CHIEF, I TOOK NOTE I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY KNOWN THIS BUT THE PRISONERS TRANSPORT UNIT ARE NOT SWORN OFFICERS. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED NEW DEPARTMENT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING. THE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT. IS THERE SOMETHING TO BE SAID, GIVEN THAT THE PTU IS PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF PEOPLE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, DROPPING THEM OFF, BUT ALSO SEEING WHAT IS GOING ON REGULARLY ON THE STREETS, AND ITS INTERACTION WITH THE JAIL. IS THERE SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THAT PTU TO BE MOVED UNDER THAT DEPARTMENT, IN YOUR OPINION? >> MEDINA: I THINK THAT DEPARTMENT MAY BEST BE SUITED STAYING WHERE IT IS AT BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH SUPPORT WITH THE DEPARTMENT. THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE COULD BE DUAL PURPOSES PEGSLY WHEN THEY BRING THEM BACK MAKING SURE WE PUT PEOPLE INTO THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR COUNTY AND CITY PARTNERS TO BEST ENSURE PEOPLE GET TO RESOURCES THEY NEED. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LONG-TERM REDUCTIONS IN CRIME A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH FOLLOW-UP RELENTLESSLY AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. I AM THERE ARE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THERE IS CROSS OVER BUT I THINK FOR THE MOST PART REMAINING WOULD BE ONE OF THE BETTER IDEAS. >> Coun. Benton: I MEANT TO ASK YOU PROBABLY THE OTHER NIGHT. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT, I APPRECIATE THE MEETING THAT WE HAD ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN DISTURBANCE OR RIOT THAT CAME AFTER ONE OF THE EARLY BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST BUT THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY CONNECTED TO THAT PROTEST. THE PERPETRATORS THAT NIGHT WERE CERTAINLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION OF SOMETHING THEY PROBABLY KNEW THAT WAS GOING ON BUT NONETHELESS, APPRECIATED THAT CONVERSATION AND YOUR DESCRIPTION OF SOME OF THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THAT. MY MISTAKE WAS I FORGOT TO ASK YOU WERE THERE ARRESTS MADE THAT NIGHT DOWNTOWN, THE NIGHT THEY HAD THE KIMO FOR A WHILE, ET CETERA? WERE ARRESTS MADE THAT NIGHT AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THE STATUS OF THOSE CASES? >> MEDINA: I DID SPEAK WITH OUR INVESTIGATIVE DEPUTY CHIEF AND GOT UPDATE ON THAT QUESTION. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 40 HOURS OF REVIEW DONE BY REALTIME CRIME CENTER TO LIVE STREAM AND VARIOUS VIDEOS THAT WERE OBTAINED THAT NIGHT. THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SOLIDLY IDENTIFY ANY SUSPECTS. THE CASE IS STILL OPEN AND ACTIVE AND IF SUSPECTS COME THEY ARE PREPARED TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATION AND SEE IF THEY CAN LEVY CHARGES. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE GENERATED NO SOLID SUSPECTS AND A LOT HAS TO DO WITH INDIVIDUALS WORE MASKS SO IT HAS HARD TO IDENTIFY THEM. >> Coun. Benton: THAT IS RIGHT BUT THE OTHER THING YOU TOLD ME, THERE WERE A LOT OF VEHICLES INVOLVED IN THAT DISTURBANCE. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE VEHICLES ARE, WHO THEY ARE, LICENSE PLATES, IDENTIFICATION OF VEHICLES, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I AM KIND OF ASTOUNDED THAT NOT ONE ARREST WAS MADE. I MEAN WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INSIDE THE KIMO, WOULDN'T THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DETAINED. >> MEDINA: THE INDIVIDUALS INSIDE THE KIMO WHEN MUNITION WAS PUT IN TO CLEAR OUT THE KIMO, THEY RAN OUT THE BACK DOOR OF THE KIMO. SO, NO ONE WAS DETAINED. WE DID HAVE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE AND YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT. I AM GOING TO FOLLOW-UP AND MAKE IN YOUR SHE DID LOOK AT LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS AND IF THERE IS ANYBODY THAT THEY COULD LEVY CHARGES ON REFERENCE VEHICLES, WE WILL BUT THE VEHICLES CAUSED A LOT OF DISTURBANCE BUT A LOT OF DAMAGE WAS CAUSED BY INDIVIDUALS ON FOOT. BUT I WILL HAVE THEM LOOK INTO THE VEHICLE ANGLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE DONE THAT. I'LL FOLLOW THROUGH. >> Coun. Benton: IT WOULD SEEM TO ME I UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS, RIGHT, THE FACT THERE WERE A LOT OF VEHICLES ASK VEHICLES AROUND DOWNTOWN, TO THE EXTENT THERE IS ANY CONNECTION THERE, I KNOW IT WAS A CROWD CONTROL SITUATION AND I APPRECIATE WHAT HAPPENED AND THAT APD THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS OVER AFTER THE PROTEST AND IT TOOK SOMETIME TO GET BACK. IT GREW UP OUT OF NOWHERE, ET CETERA, BUT, GOSH, THERE ARE ALL KINDS -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, I DO SUPPORT YOU GUYS. I DO SUPPORT FIGHTING THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY THAT WENT ON THAT NIGHT AND OF COURSE I HAVE ALSO BEEN PUBLIC ABOUT MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ONATE PROTEST. THAT WE HAVE TO BE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THOSE THINGS, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THAT AND RELATIONSHIP TO BASICALLY THE MONSTER TRUCK CROWD WHO IS WHO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS BLOCKING STREETS AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU CHIEF. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANT TO MAKE OBJECT VAGUES ABOUT CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILORS FORGIVE THEM 9 NEW COMPUTERS. WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH THEM TWO YEARS AGO THERE WAS TWO OFFICERS IN THAT UNIT AND NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 12. SO, I THINK THAT, REALLY, SHEDS LIGHT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH CRIMES AGAINST OUR CHILDREN AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP SAN EYE ON KEEP AE FUTURE. THE INCREASE IS PARAMOUNT AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE DARK WEB AND ALL KINDS OF UNDERGROUND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY, ARE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL REALLY -- WE ALL PARTICIPATED BUT I THINK JUST KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AND HAVING THAT ON OUR RADAR IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I KNOW WE PUT A QUESTION ASIDE TO TRY TO FOLLOW-UP. DO YOU WANT TO REVISIT OR SET THAT OFF TO ANOTHER MEETING.? >> Coun. Sena: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THOSE UPDATED NUMBER, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THIS KIND OF BUDGET DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE HAVING REGARDING THE STAFFING. SO, IF NOT NOW, THURSDAY WOULD BE FINE. >> MEDINA: I JUST GOT INFORMATION BACK FROM THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF INVESTIGATIONS. THERE ARE 113 PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THE CRIME LAB AND 15 OF THOSE 113 ARE SWORN. VAST MAJORITY OVERWHELMING NUMBERS THERE ARE CIVILIAN DUE TO THE JOB FUNCTION AND SPECIALTIES INVOLVED IN PROCESSING EVIDENCE WHETHER IT BE ON THE SCIENTIFIC SIDE IN TERMS OF ON THE BIOLOGY SIDE OR EVEN ON THE GUN SIDE, VAST MAJORITY ARE CIVILIANS THAT HAVE BACKGROUND AND SECURITY TO DO THAT TYPE OF WORK. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS, SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CHIEF WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. YOU HAVE HAD A BUSY DAY AND THINGS FOR MAKING THAT TIME. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? SEEING NONE. WE'LL SEE YOU SHORTLY. >> WE ARE BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION NOW. WE DID SOME MAGIC AND OUR STAFF FOUND NOT ONLY THE TEXT VERSION BUT MR. MOYA CAN SHARE IT ON LINE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR. >> Coun. Benton: THANKS. APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. WE HAVE LINDA BRIDGE OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, OUR REGIONAL HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH US HERE TODAY. ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING. SHE PROPERTY THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I SAID WE NEED TO BRING THIS TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION. I'LL READ THIS. PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL HOUSING MONTH, WHEREAS FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS IT IS POLICY OF THIS NATION TO PROMOTE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE NATION BY ASSISTING STATES AND POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FREE OF STANDING REMEDY UNSAFE AND UNTERRY HOUSING CONDITIONS AND ACUTE SHORTAGE OF SANITARY DWELLINGS FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES UNDER U.S. HOUSING ACT. ACCORDING TO THE STATE OF THE NATIONS, HOUSING REPORT, NEARLY 41 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS NOW PAY MORE THAN HALF INCOME FOR HOUSING WITH MORE THAN FOUR OUT OF FIVE WITH INCOMES BELOW 15,000 PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF INCOME FOR HOUSING. ALBUQUERQUE 9 IN 10 RENDER HOUSEHOLDS WITH LOW INCOMES -- WHEREAS ACCORDING TO CURRENT ESTIMATES ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT THERE ARE NEARLY 650,000 HOMELESS PEOPLE NATIONWIDE AND UP TO 3.5 MILLION PERSONS WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS AT SOME POINT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. ESTIMATED 2200 ALBUQUERQUE HOUSEHOLDS EXPERIENCE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS AND NEED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WHEREAS, WHILE THE NUMBER OF RENTAL HOUSING WITH EXTREMELY LOW INCOME IS INCREASING SUPPLY OF RENTAL UNITS AFFORDABLE IS SHRINK. ACCORDING NATIONAL LOW INCOME HOUSING COALITION OUT OF REACH REPORT, IN NO STATE CAN A FULL-TIME MINIMUM WAGE EARNER AFFORD A ONE OR TWO RENTAL UNIT AT FAIR MARKET RENT AND NATIONAL HOUSING CONFERENCE HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND WORKING PROFESSIONALS ARE PRICED OUT OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. THE NAHR OFFICIALS RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES AND THE AFOREMENTIONED GROUPS HAVE DECLARED OCTOBER HOUSING AMERICA MONTH, PART OF A YEAR LONG NATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO INFORM THE PUBLIC AND DECISION MAKERS OF CRITICAL NEEDS TO ADDRESS NATION'S HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS. IT IS PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY HEREBY ENDORSES THE HOUSING AMERICA CAMPAIGN, ITS GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND PURPOSES AND RECOMMITS TO MEETING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS IN ALBUQUERQUE. MS. BRIDGE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? >> MS. BRIDGE: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON PASSING THIS PROCLAMATION. RECOGNIZING HOUSING AMERICA MONTH. AND HELPING US. THIS MONTH WE WORK TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR THE IMPORTANCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FUNDING. I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICULAR TO WORK TOGETHER, YOUR CONTINUING SUPPORT SO WE CAN KEEP THIS ISSUE ON THE FOREFRONT TO HELP MEET THE UNMET NEEDS, HOUSING NEEDS, FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HELPING BRING ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU LINDA. LINDA AND I WORKED OVER THE YEARS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER AT THE HELM OVER AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT A BIG REHAB PROJECT WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET GOING AFTER ALL THESE YEARS IN MARTINEZTOWN. THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT PROJECT AND A SUCCESSFUL AND WELL RECEIVED AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MANY DECADES AND IT IS DUE FOR A MAKE OVER AND WAY OVERDUE, I SHOULD SAY. BUT WE ARE GOING TO FINALLY GET THAT DONE. THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DOES. I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COUNCILORS OVER THE YEARS FOR SUPPORTING. I HAVE ALWAYS SCRATCHED AND CLAWED IN THE BAD YEARS FOR HOUSING MONEY AND MY COUNCILOR COLLEAGUE ^ S HAVE ALWAYS COME THROUGH AND HELPED OUT. WE GOT TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: MS. BRIDGE, THANKS. PLEASE EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION TO YOUR STAFF TOO. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DOESN'T GET A LOT OF ATTENTION PUBLICLY BUT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID TO ADAPT TO YOUR TENANTS DURING CODE OF COVID-1O WORK THROUGH SOME OF YOUR CLIENTS' FINANCIAL ISSUES WITHOUT HAVING THEM LOSE HOUSING DESERVES A COMMENDATION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF'S WORK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL DO. >> Coun. Davis: MR. MOYA, WE'LL MOVE MS. BRIDGE BACK TO THE WAITING ROOM AND WE'LL MOVE ONTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BEAR WITH US JUST A MINUTE. WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'LL GET THAT STARTED AS SOON AS WE HAVE EVERYBODY. GIVE US JUST A MOMENT. WE ARE GOOD, SO HERE WE GO. FOLKS AS WE STATED EARLIER, LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT IS BACK AT CITY COUNCIL. IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE ASK FOLKS TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THE LIST THAT WAS AVAILABLE PUT OUT ON FRIDAY. AGAIN WE HAVE MANY WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AND DISTRIBUTESSED. A FEW HOUSE KEEPING NOTES AND RULES. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE THE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS PER RULES WE PUBLISHED. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ALREADY BEEN MOVED FROM THE WAITING ROOM AND ALLOWED TO SPEAK AS NAME IS CALLED. MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL REMAIN MUTED UNTIL CALLED UPON TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY HAVE 1 1/2 MINUTES TO PROVIDE COUNCIL COMMENTS. AFTER THAT, YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE AGAIN. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN MOVED IN, SO, HELLO TO ALL OF YOU JOINING TO US PROVIDE THIS. THERE ARE A FEW GROUNDRULES. YOU HAVE 1 1/2 MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO COUNCIL ONLY AND THROUGH THE PRESIDENT. NOT A FORUM FOR DEBATE. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL. IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING US ON ONE OF THE LIVE STREAMS, WE'LL ASK YOU TO TURN THAT OFF OR MUTE NOW SO CAN YOU HEAR US HERE. THERE IS A DELAY ON THOSE BROADCASTS AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU LIVE AND IN PERSON AND FOR YOU TO HEAR US. SO, WHILE YOU'RE HERE IN COMMENT, USE YOUR ZOOM APP TO DO THAT. WHY DON'T YOU GET US STARTED. GET US STARTED WITH FIRST SPEAKER. >> MOYA: FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. PAUL MONDRAGON. >> MONDRAGON: THANK YOU. YOU CAN HEAR ME? I AM SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF NEW MEXICO BIOPARK SOCIETY. OUR PROPOSAL FOR OPERATING ADMISSIONS AND GUEST SERVICES FOR THE BIOPARK. I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR MANY YEARS. PAST PRESIDENT AND ANNUAL DONOR, MY BUSINESS ALSO IS A PROUD SPONSOR. THE SOCIETY HAS A 50 YEAR HISTORY SUPPORTING THE BIOPARK. SOCIETY IS RIGHT CHOICE TO MANAGE ADMISSIONS FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIES TO INCREASE ADMISSION SALES AND DONATE ALL NET REVENUE NOT JUST REQUIRED 75% TO THE BIOPARK. THIS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS ALSO RIGHT CHOICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE OWE SITE PLANS TO DEVELOP A TEAM HIGHLY SKILLED GUESS SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES WILL INCREASE GUEST SATISFACTION FROM THE MOMENT THEY ARRIVE UNTIL THE TIME THEY DEPART AND STAFF WILL PROVIDE GENUINE GUEST SERVICE. STRATEGY ALLOWS FOR 17,400 GATES PER DAY, FAR MORE THAN ANY SINGLE DAY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. BY EXCEEDING GUEST EXPECTATIONS THEY RECEIVE A GREATER VALUE FOR THE TICKET PRICE. THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IN A POST COVID-19 WORLD. >> ADMISSIONS WILL SECURE FINANCIAL SUCCESS AND INSURE FACILITY REMAINS A PREMIER DESTINATION AND SOURCE OF COMMUNITY PRIDE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> MOYA: NEXT IS TOM HORAN. >> TOM HORAN: MY WIFE AND I -- MARY ANN APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL. APPRECIATE YOU WORKING AS HARD AS YOU DO IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER 50 YEARS OF REPRESENTING THE CITY. I WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I BOTH LOBBIED AND I KNOW HOW HAD YOUR WORK. WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT JUST AS NEIGHBORS, COUNCIL BILL 0-20-20 BY COUNCIL DIANE GIBSON, RELATING TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. WE SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE. WE SUPPORT ITS PASSAGE. WE THINK IT GOES A LONG WAY TO SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. WE LIVE IN COUNCILLOR BENTON'S DISTRICT AND THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HOUSE TO US WITH THE AIRBNB AND MINERS DRINKING, GUNSHOTS. 18 ROUND WERE SHOT AT THE BUILDING NEXT TO US AND FURTHER UP THE STREET. WE THINK THIS GOES A LONG WAY TO HOPEFULLY STOPPING SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE FACILITIES AND ARE DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T, LIKE MINORS DRIVING AT 60'S OR 70 MILES UP LAGUNA BOULEVARD ON A SUNDAY MORNING. THERE HAVE BEEN TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHICH ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES JUST LIKE OTHER R1 HOMES EXCEPT THEY GET TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE FACILITY PAYING RENT. >> MOYA: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> PATRICIA DICKINSON: I AM DIRECTOR OF FESTIVAL VALLEY ALBUQUERQUE. EVERY YEAR WE PRODUCENT CRACKER IN LAND OF ENCHANTMENT. I AM PROPOSING TO PRESENT NUT CRACKER THIS YEAR IN DECEMBER AS CRAZY AS IT SOUNDS IN AN OUTDOOR DRIVE UP VENUE. I AM CURRENTLY WORKING TO STRICT PROTOCOLS WITH THE STUDIO INCLUDING ALL THE SOCIAL DISTANCING. THE REHEARSALS AND PERFORMANCES WILL ALSO FOLLOW STRICT PROTOCOLS AS WILL REDUCED SIZE ORCHESTRA THAT WILL BE SET UP IN A TENT OUTSIDE. WE WILL BE USING HEATERS. WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DANCING ON THE GAZEBO IN OLD TOWN DURING HOLIDAY STROLL SO WE HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE IN THE COLD BEFORE. I MET WITH SUSAN RISE OF PARKS AND REC AND WE IDENTIFIED A LOT AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. WE'LL BUILD A STAGE, WITH FULL LIGHTING, SOUND DESIGN, HEATERS, THREE CAMERAS WILL BE SHOOTING UP TO AN LED VIDEO WALLS BUILT SPECIFICALLY AND MUSICIANS WILL BE MIKED AND SENT THROUGH A LOW FREQUENCY FM RADIO FEED AND 50 PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, DANCERS, DESIGNS AND CREW WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK. COVID-19 IS NOT GOING AWAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THIS HOLIDAY FAVORITE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. IF YOU'LL STAY WITH US I SEE COUNCILORS HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Harris: I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS TO VISIT WITH MS. DICKINSON. DID YOU HEAR ME. TALK TO DIRECTOR OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS AND SEE IF SHE CAN GET WITH MS. DICKINSON TO EXPLORE THIS FURTHER. >> RAEL: I'LL MAKE SURE WE TALK TO HER SO SHE CAN GET WITH MS. DICKINSON, THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: DIRECTOR SANCHEZ IS UP WITH US, WITH HER THUMBS UP AS WELL. THANKS. >> Coun. Benton: MR. PRESIDENT , ACTUALLY WANTED TO SEE IF MR. HORAN WANTED TO JUST CONCLUDE HIS REMARKS. THAT SPECIFIC EVENT HAS REALLY DRAWN A LOT OF ATTENTION IN OUR PART OF TOWN AND IT IS PRETTY HORRIFIC AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILLOR GIBSON IS DOING. I WANTED TO JUST SEE IF TOM HE RAN WANTED TO HAVE A CONCLUDING REMARK. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN RAISE MR. HORAN AGAIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. DICKINSON REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL? MS. DICKINSON, THANKS FOR PRESENTING THAT. SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE GOOD SUPPORT. CAN YOU COUNT ME IN AS WELL. >> Coun. Davis: MR. HORAN I SEE YOU AGAIN. COUNCILORS CAN ASK FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS IF THEY HAVE SOME AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCILLOR BENTON WANTS TO LEARN MORE BUT CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ORDINANCE. AIR BNB CONDITIONS. >> HORAN: THANK YOU SIR. >> Coun. Davis: STATE YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? WE HAVE MR. HORAN. >> Coun. Benton: I JUST THOUGHT HE WAS FINISHING UP WITH A COMPELLING STORY. I WANTED TO MAKE SUREHAD A CHANCE TO CONCLUDE HIS REMARKS. >> HORAN: CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> Coun. Davis: GO AHEAD. >> HORAN: IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE FOR OF THAT ORDINANCE BOTTOM C4, AIR BNB IS REVOKED AFTER THREE OR MORE INSTANCES OF VIOLATIONS WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. AND THEY CAN RUN PARAMETER FROM SMALL AND VERY SEE VEER LIKE, GUNSHOT WOUNDS, PEOPLE HURT BY UNDER AGE DRUNK DRIVING, ET CETERA. I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE ON IN SOME INSTANCES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE VIOLATIONS GO BEYOND A 12 MONTH PERIOD. THERE OUGHT TO BE VIOLATIONS TAKING AWAY THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSES IF IT DOES BODILY HARM TO OTHERS AND I JUST THINK YOU OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT. I THINK PASSING THE ORDINANCE BASICALLY IS VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THINGS IN THE FUTURE. COUNCILLOR BENTON TON AND OTHERS WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: JUST REALLY QUICKLY, TOM, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS AND IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT A PARTY, NOT WITHIN THE DWELLING ITSELF. THAT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED BUT A MAXIMUM NUMBER FOR A GET TOGETHER OF PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE RENTAL GROUP. AND I BELIEVE IT IS SET AT 20 NOW. I HAVE AMENDMENT TO MAKE THAT 16. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE MAGIC NUMBER IN THAT AREA? >> HORAN: I THINK COUNCILOR, I THINK YOU ALL WILL HAVE JUST AS GOOD A HANDLE ON IT AS I DO. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AROUND THE CITY. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE COME IN AND HAVE CELEBRATIONS WITH MARRIAGES AND BAPTISM AND BEEN FINE AND IN SOME INSTANCES YOU HAVE TROUBLE. I THINK YOU ALL -- YOU'RE QUALIFIED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. >> Coun. Benton: THANKS TOM. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR GIBSON YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP? >> Coun. Gibson: YES. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IF I UNDERSTOOD MR. HORAN CORRECTLY HE IS WONDERING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DISCRETION MIGHT BE EXERCISED, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, A FAIR ESTIMATION OF VIOLATIONS AND THE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT WHEN THE BILL IS HEARD, SIR. AND WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER, MS. MORRIS, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND WE'LL GET TO THAT ONCE THE BILL IS BEING HEARD. I BELIEVE IT IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. HORAN. >> HORAN: THANK YOU. >> CARD: OKAY. MY VIDEO DOESN'T START. IT SAYS I STILL CAN'T START IT BUT SO PRESIDENT DAVIS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, LET ME SEE IF IT WILL START. I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE BIOPARK SOCIETY. THEIR PROPOSAL FOR OPERATING ADMISSIONS AND GUEST SERVICES FOR THE BIOPARK. FOR MANY YEARS I WAS THE AUDITOR FOR THE BIOPARK SOCIETY AND SO I AM VERY WELL AWARE OF THEIR FINANCIAL -- THE FINANCIAL DETAILS OF THE BIOPARK SOCIETY AND THE FACT THEY ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND A FINANCIALLY SOUND ORGANIZATION. I SOLD MY ACCOUNTING -- MY PORTION OF THE ACCOUNTING BUSINESS AND I NOW AM THE BUSINESS MANAGER AT THE SANDIA PREP BUT I AM VERY HAPPY THAT I AM NOW ON THE BOARD OF THE BIOPARK SOCIETY. I AM CONFIDENT IN THE SOCIETY'S ABILITY TO MANAGE THIS NEW OPERATION INCLUDING THE COMPLEX FINANCES AND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THEY EXIST SOLELY TO SUPPORT THE BIOPARK IT WILL CONTRIBUTE ALL NET REVENUE FROM GUEST SERVICES AND TICKET SALES. THEIR PLAN WILL GENERATE REVENUE THROUGH INCREASED ADMISSION AND MEMBERSHIP SALES, UPGRADES FOR ATTRACTION AND ADD ONS IN DONATIONS. WITH THEIR PROPOSED NEW TICKET OPTIONS BIOPARK SOCIETY PROJECT INCREASE IN REVENUE OF 100 TO $500,000 ANNUAL BY. AGAIN, ALL THE NET REVENUE WILL BE CONTRIBUTED TO BIOPARK. BECAUSE OF THEIR SOUND FINANCIAL PRACTICES, THE SOCIETY IS THE RIGHT ORGANIZATION TO MANAGE THE BIOPARK'S ADMISSIONS AND GUEST SERVICES AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JAMES CHURCH: GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I AM HERE TO -- I AM A 26 YEAR RESIDENT OF FOUR HILLS VILLAGE. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE RENAMING OF THE FOUR HILLS VILLAGE PARK LOCATED IN FOUR HILLS VILLAGE TO RENAME IT AS THE MEMORIAL PARK. THE DOCTOR DID MUCH TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AMONG ACCOMPLISHMENTS WAS THE PARK. RESIDENTS WITH CHILDREN HAVE BEEN REQUESTING IT FOR DECADES BUT DENIED. ED WORKED CLOSELY WITH DON HAIR IS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WHEN MADE AWARE OF INJUSTICE OR REQUESTED BY ANOTHER RESIDENT FOR A SPECIFIC SITUATION, HE GAVE HIS ALL UNTIL MISSION WAS ACCOMPLISHED. NAMING THE FOUR HILLS VILLAGE PARK IN HIS HONOR IS TRIBUTE TO HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU COULD HEAR ME. >> MOYA: YES, THANK YOU. >> DR. JOE VALLES? REFERENCE TO SEPTEMBER 16 CITY COUNCIL MEETING IT NEEDS TO BE SAID FORCIBLY, THAT THE UNWARRANTED MISCHARACTERIZATION OF THE WESTSIDE COALITION BY HARRIS AND OTHERS WAS NOTHING MORE THAN ABOUT STIFLING PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE IDO PROCESS. THAT IS THE WAY WE FEEL. OUR WEBSITE COUNCILOR BORREGO WAS NOT TREATED WELL AND WAS RIGHT IN DEFENDING HER LAST MINUTE AMENDMENTS. THE COUNCIL KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN AS MR. MELENDRES CONFIRMED THAT AMENDMENTS ARE MADE AT ANY TIME ALL THE TIME. ONE FINDS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SOME ON THE COUNCIL WEREN'T AWARE OF IT. AS STATED IN WRITTEN LETTER, COUNCILOR HARRIS, IN PARTICULAR, OWES HISTORICALLY HARD WORKING MEMBERS OF THE WESTSIDE COALITION AN APOLOGY. THANK YOU. >> MOYA: THANK YOU. >> JERRY WORRELL. FOR SOME REASON I DON'T SEE ANY VOID YO OF ME BUT THAT IS PROBABLY BEST. I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT DR. VALLES STARTED WITH AND AS ALL OF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF CORRESPONDENCE AND AN OPEN LETTER TO COUNCILOR HARRIS ON THE SUBJECT THAT JOE COVERED. I ALSO HAD SENT THAT AS YOU KNOW TO THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL WHICH HAS CHOOSEN NOT TO PUBLISH MY OPEN LETTER TO COUNCILOR HARRIS. BECAUSE JOE COVERED THAT, I WANT TO GO PAST THAT, THAT ASK FOR AN APOLOGY TO GET DOWN TO THE CORE OF THE MATTER WHICH IS PUBLIC INPUT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU CANNOT SHUT OFF NOR SHOULD YOU. I THINK GOOD IDEAS COME FROM THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES WHERE THE WESTSIDE COALITION HAS COME FORTH WITH AN TWO EXIT LINES OFF I 40 BY WORKING WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS BRAND NEW TO THE JOB BY ONE OF THE RESIDENTS. I WANT TO FINISH MY 1 1/2 MINUTES WITH A STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS CONTACTING CITY COUNCIL, STANDING IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL SINCE 1957. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD GUIDE US WELL IN THE FUTURE IS TO TAKE WHAT I SAID AT THE LAST OF MY LETTER ABOUT USING THE ROTARY CLUB'S FOUR WAY TEST AND EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY AND DO TO ANOTHER, IS IT TRUTH, IS IT FAIR TO EVERYONE THAT IS CONCERNED, WILL IT BUILD GOODWILL AND BETTER FRIENDSHIP AND WILL IT BENEFIT ALL OF US. I'LL CLOSE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Harris: I AM NOT APOLOGIZING TO ANYONE. WHAT I SAID WAS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE. THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BY THE WAY. NOBODY WANTS TO SHUT DOWN PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE WESTSIDE COALITION. WHAT I SAID IT WAS NOT TIMELY. THERE IS A PROCESS, ANNUAL UPDATE. WE ARE ALREADY STARTING NEXT ANNUAL UPDATE AND IT WAS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A GROUP TO TRY TO OVERTURN AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PASSED IN A LAND USE PLANNING COMMITTEE THROUGH A LAST MINUTE APPROACH WHILE JUST THE WEEKEND BEFORE THIS SPECIAL MEETING. SO, IT IS NOT ANYTHING ABOUT INPUT. IT IS TIMING OF THE INPUT WHICH IS INAPPROPRIATE AND I STAND-BY THE COMMENTS. >> JESSICA MORNING: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I AM REPRESENTING NEW MEXICO BACK IN THE BLUE WHICH IS ORGANIZATION OF OVER DOZEN NONPROFIT LAW ENFORCEMENT. I AM SEEING A LOT OF CONCERNING ISSUES COMING OUT OF CITY HALL AND RECENT CHESS GAME WITH MEDINA. I FIND IT WORRISOME INTERIM CHIEF IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR NEXT POLICE CHIEF. I KNOW THERE IS A SEARCH FOR THIS BUT I CAN'T SEE THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON A JOB THAT MAY NOT LAST A YEAR OR SO. AMBITION IS NOT A BAD THING BUT WHEN I SACRIFICE INTEGRITY AND BETRAY THOSE THAT HELPED YOU GET WHERE YOU ARE, THAT SHOWS DEFICIENCY IN CHARACTER. >> I BRING THIS UP BASED ON MEDINA'S OWN WORDS IN THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL WITH REGARD TO DISCIPLINE STYLE WHERE HE SAYS, I HAVE THE PERSONALITY THAT IF THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR CHIEF IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, OFFICER ^ S HAVE TO WATCH BACK IN THE FIELD AS IT IS, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO WATCH THEIR BACK WHEN IT COMES TO EXECUTIVE STAFF. ALL >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK VICE PRESIDENT GIBSON AND STAFF FOR DILIGENCE IN CROSSING THE ORDINANCE. (INAUDIBLE) I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN HELPING LOCAL GOVERNMENT CRAFT POLICY IN DOZENS OF JURISDICTIONS IN THE U.S. WE BELIEVE IN HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PUBLIC POLICY AND (INAUDIBLE) SHOULD BE CRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY IT CAN BE ENFORCED FULLY. I HOPE THAT ALBUQUERQUE WILL CONSIDER VRBO PARTNER AND RESOURCE IN DEVELOPING A PROGRAM THAT ACHIEVES COMPLIANCE AND SETS THE CITY UP FOR SUCCESS MOVING FORWARD. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANTOINETTE SWENA: THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. IN 2017 WE WERE HIT BY A POLICE OFFICER AT ACCELERATED SPEED THROUGH INTERSECTION AT 80 MILES AN OUR. MY SIX YEAR OLD SON ANTHONY PASSED AWAY AND NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WAS IN A COMB IN A COF GEIER HELPED US ACHIEVE SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY. HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT REACHED OUT TO US. PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DID NOT CARE. LOVE PANNED COMPASSION IS NECESSARY FOR HUMANITY TO GROW IN UNITY. CHIEF GEIER OPENED THOSE DOORS TO TURN TRAGEDY. HE IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND COMPACTION WHO DID NOT DESERVE TO BE TREATED THE WAY MAYOR HAS TREATED HIM AND OTHERS. THE MAYOR DISREGARD WHO HAD CHIEF GEIER IS AND WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. ALBUQUERQUE NEEDED CHIEF GEIER. HE MADE IT POSSIBLE TO HEAL TOGETHER, MAKE PROGRESS AND STAND UNITED. IF I HAVE TIME I WANT TO SPEAK -- I HAVE A LETTER FROM VALERIE JAMESON. I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HER AND READ THIS LETTER. ONE ALBUQUERQUE, WHAT DOES THAT TRULY MEAN. AS A NATIVE I HAVE WATCHED THE BEAUTIFUL CITY GO THROUGH TRANSITIONS FROM DIRT ROADS TO PAVED HIGHWAYS, MESAS TO NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PARENTS FELT SAFE ALLOWING KIDS TO RIDE THEIR BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREET WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT IN THE CROSS HAIR OF VIOLENCE. I HAVE WATCHED OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY -- >> Coun. Davis: YOUR TIME IS UP BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT LETTER BY WRITING. WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCILORS. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT COUNCILLOR GIBSON HAS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. >> Coun. Gibson: YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP YOUR REMARKS PLEASE. >> TO READ THIS LETTER? >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> WE HAVE A UNIQUE POSITION. WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN PLATFORMS FOR CHANGE AS A FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF STAND TRUE BLUE I BELIEVE IT IS TIME FOR US TO STAND UP AND BE A POSITIVE AND UNIFYING SUPPORT FOR -- I HAVE EXTREME PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH APD AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR MANY YEARS. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THE CHANCE OF GETTING TO KNOW SOME OF THE MOST BRAVE, SELFLESS COMPASSIONATE AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY. I HAVE WATCHED THEM RUN INTO DANGER AND THE REST OF US RUN OUT OR HIDE SAFELY IN OUR HOMES. I HAVE WATCHED THEM WALK AWAY FROM CALLS BROKEN BECAUSE THEY JUST SAW THE WORST OF HUMANITY QUALIFY DO TO A SMALL INNOCENCE CHILD. I HAVE WATCHED THEM PUT ON ON BRAVE FACE AS THEY GO FROM ONE CALL TO THE NEXT AND THEN TRY TO BURY IT SO DEEP THAT WHEN THEY GO HOME, THEY CAN EMBRACE THEIR OWN FAMILIES AS THEIR DAY WAS PERFECT. THESE PEOPLE ARE MY HEROS AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND AND NOT DEFUND THEM. THEY ARE A HUGE PART OF ONE ALBUQUERQUE, IN FACT, THEY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF ONE. WHEN RESEARCHING OTHER CITY HAVE FOUND THOSE WHO ARE THRIVING ARE THE ONES WHO WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND ALLOW THE CHIEF, COMMAND STAFF AND OFFICERS TO DO THEIR JOBS. THERE IS A DISTRIBUTING TREND AS IT HAS BEEN REVEALING ABOUT THE MAYOR AND HIS OFFICE AND HIS OFFICE TREATS THE CHIEF OF POLICE. THIS IS A POSITION THAT SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND THE MAYOR AND HIS OFFICE SHOULD GLEAN FROM THOSE HE PUTS IN POSITION NOT INFRINGING ON THE JOB. THEY HIRED US TO DO. CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THEN ATTACK THEIR CHARACTER WHEN DISAGREEMENTS OCCUR. AS WITH EVERY ORGANIZATION, THERE IS A CLEAR CHAIN OF COMMAND AND WHEN THIS CHAIN OF COMMAND IS BREACHED THEN OUR CITY SUFFERS AND ONE ALBUQUERQUE BECOMES ABOUT ONE CONTROLLING ALBUQUERQUE, SO, BACK TO MY QUESTION, ONE ALBUQUERQUE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU CITY COUNCILORS ARE IN POSITION TO HELP UNIFY OUR CITY OR TURN A BLIND EYE AND ALLOW THIS ABUSE OF POWER TO CONTINUE. WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE? WHAT LEGACY WILL YOU LEAVE BEHIND. I PRAY THAT IT IS THE ONE OF CHANGE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE TRULY ARE BETTER TOGETHER BUT ONLY WHEN ONE ALBUQUERQUE INCLUDES EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: SO, THANK YOU. I AM ASSUMING THAT THE PRESIDENT ISING ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE FLOOR FOR A FEW MINUTES. I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU'RE DOING A BRAVE THING HERE IN LIGHT OF YOUR LOSS IN SPEAKING TO CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYONE WHO IS ATTENDING TODAY. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE OUT GOING CHIEF WAS VERY SIMILAR TO YOURS. NOT THE LOSS PART THAT I CAN GOODNESS BUT HIS KINDNESS AS A GENTLEMAN AND AS A POLICE OFFICER, TRULY A PUBLIC SERVANT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> JCAMPBELL: HELLO. THANK YOU. URGING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILL THIS EVENING. I THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN REJECTED LAST YEAR DUE TO OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION BY ALL PARTIES AFFECTED. THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM. ZONING CODES FULLY COVER THIS SUBJECT. TAXES ARE ALREADY COLLECTED IN MASS BY AIR BNB. IDEA OF REGISTERING LICENSING AND INSPECTING OR ADDING GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION OF THIS PROCESS WOULD COST EVERYONE INVOLVED WITHOUT ADDING BENEFITS. BUREAUCRACY GROWS, GUESTS PAY MORE, HOSTS EARN LESS. THERE ARE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR ALL PROPERTIES AND HOUSE RULES FOR GUESTS. BAD APPLES GET WASHED OUT SWIFTLY. >> PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY ARE GETTING, THEY SHOULD BE FREE TO CHOOSE. A FEW AN ANECDOTES FROM NEIGHBORS, (INAUDIBLE). >> KATHLEEN ADAMS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME VISIT THE MEETING TODAY. I HAVE TO PROVIDE A REBUTTAL TO COUNCILLOR HARRIS, A MOST DIRECT REBUTTAL. SIR, MEMBERS OF THE WESTSIDE COALITION HAVE PARTICIPATED DILIGENTLY IN MEETINGS FROM JULY ON. WE ATTENDED A MEETING THE WEEK BEFORE SEPTEMBER 16. WE SUBMITTED OUR COMMENTS IN A SPREADSHEET ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENT. WE HAVE BEEN TIMELY. WE HAVE RESPONDED TO EVERY CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. YOUR COMMENTS WERE UNWARRANTED AND THEY DENY OWE GREAT YOUR REPIZATION. WE DESERVE AN APOLOGY AND WE DID HE SERVE FOR YOU TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. WE SUBMITTED OUR INFORMATION. YOU SHOULD ENCOURAGE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AT EVERY STEP OF EVERY PROCESS. YOU SHOULD NEVER PREVENT -- PUT UP BARRIERS TO CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. I RESENT THE FACT THAT YOU CHOOSE TO ATTACK US IN THE MEETING. SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR NOT SPEAKING UP FOR CITIZENS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS COMES TO PUBLIC LIGHT SO THAT ALL CITIZENS IN ALBUQUERQUE CAN BECOME AWARE OF EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I AM SORRY THAT I HAD TO SPEAK TODAY. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU. ISSUE IS THAT THESE COMMENTS WERE APPROPRIATE AS MANY COUNCILORS SAID FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S REVISIONS, THEY WERE NOT APPROPRIATE AT THE LAST MINUTE AT LAST MINUTE AMENDMENTS WHICH WERE SUBMITTED LITERALLY DAYS BEFORE A PROCESS HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. IT WASN'T THE CONTENT OF THE COMMENT WERE NOT THE PROBLEM. THE TIMING WERE AND I STAND-BY THOSE COMMENTS. >> Coun. Benton: I THINK COUNCILOR HARRIS SUMMARIZED WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. THIS WAS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE OF MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS COMING THAT HAD NOT BEEN SEEN AND COULD NOT BE DIGESTED AND ACTED UPON AT MEETING AT WHICH THEY WERE BROUGHT. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR. THAT IS THE ANNUAL UPDATE AND ANNUAL UPDATE WAS ALREADY OVERDUE. THESE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AT A LATE MOMENT. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO AND I ABSOLUTELY THE WHOLE POINT OF THE IDO AND AMENDING IT IS FOR CITIZEN INPUT BUT THE NECK THE NEXT ROUND IS STARTING AS WE SPEAK AND THAT IS THE TIME TO BRING SOMETHING KNEW INTO THE DISCUSSION. SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WERE AMENDING ACTION THAT WAS JUST TAKEN SO TO DO THAT AND TO BRING THAT FORTH WITHOUT EVEN TIME FOR COUNCILORS TO EVEN CONSIDER IT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, IT WASN'T TIMELY. SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT MS. ADAMS THINKS WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES. I AM SAYING I AM NOT GOING TO ACT ON ANYTHING, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, ON THAT KIND OF SCHEDULE AND I HOPE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COALITION BRING FORTH THEIR IDEAS FOR THE NEXT ROUND. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANT TO THANK WESTSIDE COALITION FOR STEPPING UP AND FOR BRINGING THAT AMENDMENT FORWARD. I THINK THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FLUID EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF AMENDING THE IDO. IF THE COUNCILORS REMEMBER, I ASKED FOR A THIRD LAND USE MEETING TO BE HELD BECAUSE THERE WERE ISSUES THAT STILL HAD BEEN RESOLVED AND I WAS DENIED THAT REQUEST. SO, IN LIEU OF NOT HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL THIRD HEARING, THE ONLY OTHER OPTION THAT WE HADS WITH TO BRING THOSE AMENDMENTS FORWARD WHICH I FULLY INTEND TO BRING FORWARD AGAIN AT OUR ANNUAL UPDATE BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT ARE UNRESOLVED SOME OF WHICH INCLUDE COORS BOULEVARD AND OUR VIEW PROTECTION AND DENSITY ISSUES THAT ARE STILL ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THAT PARTICULAR ROAD AND DO AFFECT THE WESTSIDE. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE WESTSIDE COALITION FOR COME FORWARD TODAY. >> JIM COCHRANE: FORMER PRESIDENT OF FOUR HILLS VILLAGE ASSOCIATION. I STARTED WITH COUNCIL OR HARRIS IN THE NAME OF THE PARK AND WE WENT THROUGH A VERY LONG TEDIOUS PROCESS BY GETTING THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE PARK AND THE NAME OF THE PARK, THE BA ARE SIS MICKELSON PARK AT FOUR HILLS AND THEN WE HAD IT VOTED ON AT ANNUAL MEETING IN JANUARY 2020 AND THEREFORE, SINCE THEN, SOME OTHER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. MR. MICKELSON'S RELATIVES ASK HE NOT BE PUT ON IT. DON CAME BACK TO THE BOARD AND MY UNDERSTANDING PROPOSAL IS ED BARSIS MEMORIAL PARK. I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE, BUT I HAVE KNOWN BOTH ED BARSIS AND MR. MICKELSON FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OF MY RESIDENCY HERE AND BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ED BARSIS PUT THE BIGGEST EFFORT INTO GETTING THE PARK PUT IN AT FOUR HILLS VILLAGE. I WOULD AGREE AND BE IN FAVOR OF RENAMING THE PARK AT FOUR HILLS VILLAGE. >> MARY LOU: GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY APPROVAL FOR CHANGING OF THE NAME OF THE PARK IN FOUR HILLS VILLAGE. ED WAS A LEADER IN OUR FOUR HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD WHO PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO. HE WAS NOT ONE TO SEEK ATTENTION. I FEEL HE SHOULD BE REMEMBERED FOR ESTABLISHING THE PARK AS WELL AS OTHER ISSUES HE DEVOTED TIME AND ENERGY TO, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. I WITH LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE NAME CHANGE TO THE ED BARSIS MEMORIAL PARK. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Harris: JUST ONE COMMENTS FOR JIM AND MARY LOU IS THAT DIRECTOR SIMONS SUGGESTED THAT MEMORIAL MAYBE ISN'T THE BEST USE OF THAT WORD. WE ARE GOING TO BE DROPPING THE WORD MEMORIAL. >> OKAY, THAT IS FINE, THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND TO EVERYONE THAT SIGNED UP AND JOINED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. EX UP ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS AND TONIGHT WE HAVE NONE. WE ARE MOVING ONTO ADMINISTRATION Q AND A. WE HAVE ADMINISTRATION STAFF IN BOTH BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM AND UPSTAIRS WHEN WE GET THEM BACK. SO, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILORS WHO SUBMITTED QUESTIONS FIRST. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY MANY QUESTIONS I AM ASKING COME FROM MY CONSTITUENTS. WHAT IS SCHEDULE FOR TRASH PICK UP FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, DAY OF SIMON DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THE SCHEDULE DOES DEPEND ON THE PARK. SO, FOR EXTREMELY -- MOST PARKS GET THEIR TRASH COLLECTED TWICE A WEEK. SOME SMALLER PARKS ONCE A WEEK. FOR CERTAIN LARGER PARKS LIKE PAT HURLEY PARK IN YOUR DISTRICT WE ACTUALLY PICK UP TRASH FIVE TIMES A WEEK. IT DOES DEPEND. FOR OPEN SPACE WE GENERALLY RUN A TRASH PICK UP TWICE A WEEK ALTHOUGH DURING THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEEN TRASH VOLUMES RISE ACROSS THE CITY AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PICK UP TRASH MORE FREQUENTLY FROM THE OPEN SPACE AREAS AS MUCH AS THREE TIMES A WEEK. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW THAT MANY OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT REACHED OUT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PETROGLYPH AREA ESPECIALLY DURING WEEKENDS, THEY SEE A LARGE UP TICK. MY RECOMMENDATION TOO IS ALSO WE TRIED TO URGE A LOT OF RESIDENTS TO PACK IN AND PACK IT OUT AND TO AVOID THAT BUT I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING. MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT IS THE CURRENT SCHEDULE FOR TRANSIT MEANING OUR BUSES FOR ART AND ARTX? WILL THERE BE ANY CHANGES MOVING FORWARD. A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS THAT I TALK TO SAY THERE ARE WAIT PERIOD BETWEEN BUS STOPS AND PICK UP TIMES. >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF TRANSIT: JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF BACKGROUND AS TO HOW OUR SERVICES CHANGED OVER THESE LAST FEW MONTHS, MARCH 28 WAS THE FIRST MAJOR REDUCTION IN SERVICE. WE WERE RUNNING ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY. ART WAS NOT RUNNING. WE EXPANDED SERVICE ON JUNE 13, ART IS NOW RUNNING AS WELL AS ART X. ONCE WE RESUMED SERVICE WE DID IMPLEMENT SEVERAL COVID-19 SAFE PRACTICESES LIMITING CAPACITY ON BUSES IN ORDER TO HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCING. WE ARE SEEING THAT IS IMPACTING FREQUENCY. WE ARE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO FIND OUT WHERE THERE ARE LONGER WAIT TIMES. >> Coun. Sena: APPRECIATE THAT AND WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW-UP WITH CONSTITUENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. >> Coun. Davis: DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. >> Coun. Sena: TWO MORE. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR WHAT IS THE CURRENT PRACTICE FOR ADDRESSING A PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS? >> Coun. Davis: I SEE DIRECTOR PIERCE IN BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM. >> PIERCE: THANK YOU. OUR CURRENT PRACTICE IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS WITHOUT A HOME AND EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, ONE EASY STEP TO TAKE IT TO DIAL 768-HELP, OPERATIONAL 8:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT GETS PEOPLE CONNECTED TO ONE OF OUR OUTREACH AND HOMELESS PROVIDERS, NONPROFESSOR IT IN OUR COMMUNITY. ULTIMATELY THE PRACTICE WHEN SOMEBODY IS WITHOUT A HOME IS THROUGHOUT REACH PROVIDERS GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO ONE AND SOMETIMES THAT TAKES MULTIPLE CONTACTS TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. THE ULTIMATE IS ONCE A RELATIONSHIP IS BUILT, IS TO WORK WITH THAT PERSON TO HAVE THEM COMPLETE A RISK ASSESSMENT. THAT IS THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT. THEN THEY ARE ON A LIST FOR ACCESS TO HOUSING. I DID WANT TO SAY THAT THE HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY HAS OUTREACH COMMITTEE GROUP AND THERE ARE SOME VERY GREAT HIGH IMPACT STRATEGIES RECOMMENDED FROM THAT GROUP BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER COORDINATION IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT THE SIMPLIST ANSWER IS OUTREACH AND 768 HELP. >> Coun. Sena: DIRECTOR I AM CURIOUS BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THE PRACTICE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL IS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, HOW THE CITY ADDRESSES IT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT IS THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAMS OR THE WELLNESS TRACKS BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS IT DEPENDENT UPON THE RESIDENT WITNESSING A PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO ACTUALLY CALL THE NUMBER TO GET OUTREACH. HOW DOES THAT TRIGGER THAT RESPONSE? >> PIERCE: THE REASON I ZOOMED IN TO 768 HELP SINCE CONSTITUENT ASKED YOU THE QUESTION I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HELP THE MOST. BUT, REALLY, THE CITY HAS MULTIPLE RESPONSES TO HOMELESSNESS. IF IT IS SOMEBODY DOWN AND OUT OR SOMEBODY NEEDING HELP WE DO WORK WITH AFR AND OTHER PROVIDERS AS WELL AS WE ARE OPERATING HOMELESS SHELTER, WESTSIDE EMERGENCY HOUSING CENTER IS OPEN 365 DAYS A YEAR WITH SEVERAL BUS PICKUPS. THAT IS ONE OF OUR CORE STRONG GOES TO REALLY HELP SUPPORT PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES. WE ALSO KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE AT A SHELTER. SO, WE ARE CONNECTING THEM TO OTHER RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY. >> Coun. Sena: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK CONSTITUENTS WERE MOSTLY CONCERNED OF IS THAT THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO OUTREACH THEMSELVES AS PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND OFTENTIMES THEY WERE GONE, THEY WEREN'T IN THE LOCATION THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY SO HAVING TO RUN AROUND THE CITY TRYING TO LOCATE THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU GIVE AS ADVICE TO THAT OR, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ADDRESSING, THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE? IS THERE A PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THAT? >> PIERCE: THAT IS A REALLY GREAT QUESTION. ONE OF THE HIGH IMPACT STRATEGIES RECOMMENDED BY OUTREACH GROUP IS HOW THE OUTREACH PROVIDERS DO WORK TOGETHER TO MAP IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY ON A PARTICULAR STREET CORNER THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE CONNECTED WITH THAT THEY HADN'T FOUND THEN. WHAT KIND OF DATA THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH AND SHARE. COORDINATED OUTREACH WORKERS DO WORK QUITE CLOSELY TOGETHER BUT HAVING A SYSTEM TO MAP THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IT IS ALSO WHY IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO -- WELL JUST TO HAVE THAT ONGOING COMMUNICATION WHY ONE TOUCH IS NOT ALWAYS THE MAGIC THAT GETS PEOPLE CONNECTED, IT IS THAT CONTINUOUS CONTACTS. HAVING A SYSTEM FOR MAPPING THAT IS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES. >> Coun. Sena: OKAY. I THINK I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS BUT, YOU KNOW, IN RESPECTS TO TIME AND SEVERAL COUNCILORS I WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW-UP. MR. PRESIDENT IF I CAN MOVE ONTO MY NEXT QUESTION? THIS NEXT QUESTION IS REGARDING WHAT APD IS DIAGNOSE TO ADDRESS SPEEDERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE RACING. I KNOW WE HAD INCIDENT WHERE INDIVIDUAL ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY BECAUSE OF RACERS AND ACTUALLY THIS PAST WEEKEND JUST GOING THROUGH THE DISTRICT THERE WAS A CAR SHOW, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST A CAR SHOW, AS LONG AS THEY ARE PRACTICING COVID-19 SAFE PRACTICES AND WEARING MASKS BUT THERE WAS A CONCERN OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING, THAT OF A THE CAR SHOW, THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE RACING ALONG COORS AND THAT HAS A LOT OF CONCERN. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS THE RACERS IN. >> SMATHERS: GOOD AFTERNOON. ONE OF THE DEPUTY CHIEFS HERE. I AM OVERALL OF THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS THROUGHOUT APD. COUNCILOR WE DO READILY RECOGNIZE WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE OF LATE WITH SOME OF THE SPEEDING AND DRAG RACING. TWO AREAS, NORTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST HAVE VERY SPECIFIC PLANS IN PLACE TO TRY ADDRESS IT. IT IS CHALLENGING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY INTERDISTRICT THESE FOLKS. CURRENTLY WE ARE AT ABOUT 57 I BELIEVE IS NUMBER FOR TRAFFIC FATALITIES WHICH IS ON PACE FOR LAST YEAR. WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER AND WE REALIZE THESE SPEEDING EVENTS QUITE OFTEN LEAD TO FATAL CRASHES. IT IS A LARGE EMPHASIS WITHIN APD PROPER. ESPECIALLY IN THOSE TWO AREA COMMAND. WE HAVE HAD VIOLENT CRIME INCIDENTS TAKE PLACE DURING SOME OF THE DRAG RACING EVENTS AS WELL. THERE IS A NEXUS TO SOME OF THE SHOOTINGS AS WELL. WE ARE WORKING ON IT BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE NOT ACHIEVED SUCCESS YET BUT PLEASE KNOW IT IS HIGH PRIORITY FOR US. I HAVE ADDRESSED THIS WITH OUR COMMANDER AS WELL. I KNOW THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN AND (INAUDIBLE). IT IS A CHALLENGE WHEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOUTH (INAUDIBLE) WHEN THE SPEEDWAY WAS OPEN, THEY HAVE THAT AVENUE TO RACE WHERE IT WAS SAFE, ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED TO HAVE A RACEWAY, A GENUINE RACEWAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT IS OPEN OR NOT. BUT HAVING THIS OTHER MECHANIC IS IN BELIEVE OF ADDRESSING IT. AREA COMMANDERS ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT SPECIFICALLY BUT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE PLANS ON HOW TO ADDRESS THESE RACERS. >> SMATHERS: SOMETIMES I SET UP EVENTS AND SOCIAL EVENT AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP IN ADVANCE. IT IS CHALLENGING IN THAT WAY. THEY TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF US IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLANNING. COVID-19 WE HAVE SEEN UP TICK IN MORE AGGRESSIVE DRIVING WITH SOME OF THE CLOSURES. WE NOTICED A HIGHER RATE OF SPEEDING THROUGHOUT. INCREASED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS THAT DANGEROUS EGREGIOUS BEHAVIOR IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WE WILL CONVEY THAT. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: I KNOW YOU HAD ONE QUESTION YOU SUBMITTED BUT WE ADDRESSED IT. >> Coun. Benton: DID I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR SENA BRINGING UP SPEEDING. I ACTUALLY WANT TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. I KNOW THIS OCCURRED IN MY DISTRICT BUT I HAVE HEARD COUNCILOR JONES AND OTHERS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, AND YOURSELF, COUNCILOR SENA CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM IN ONE DISTRICT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING CITY WIDE AND VERY CONCERNING. THE OTHER KAY WE WERE ON THE FREEWAY AND THERE WERE PEOPLE DRAG RACING PAST US AND I HAD MY GRANDSONS WITH ME. IT IS PRETTY SCARY. THEN, MY QUESTION QUICK QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE AND THEN SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER A SUN VAN RELATED QUESTION. SUN VAN TICKETS, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO TO LIKE ALBERTSONS OR TO THE SPACES ON THE PAD SITES TO BUY THE TICKETS? AND THEN -- OR ELSE YOU HAVE TO GO DUNN TOWN TO WHERE YOU ARE AT TO PURCHASE THEM. I KNOW I HAD MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DO IT ONLINE. I APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY HAS UPDATE OR CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT. I CARE FOR SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET OUT AND BUY THOSE TICKETS. ONLINE, VIA MAIL, SOMETHING. THEY CLOSED ALBERTSONS BY US, SO, IT MAKES IT A LOT FURTHER FOR THEM TO GET SUN VAN TICKETS. JUST THE LAST ONE, DIRECTOR PIERCE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHOS HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOME SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, AS YOU KNOW, FROM RUNNING THE FACILITY IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT BUT WHEN SOMEBODY IS IN CRISIS AND THEY SAY, HEY, I WANT TO GET HELP. DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OR CONTACT TO PUT THEM WITH. WHEN YOU CALL DIFFERENT FACILITIES EITHER YOU HAVE TO COME BACK LATER AND YOU MISS THAT WINDOW AND FORGET IT. IS THERE A NUMBER? IS THERE SOMEWHERE SOMEONE CAN TAKE SOMEONE TO GET HELP WHEN IT IS 2:00 IN THE MORNING OR 8:00 A.M. ON THE WEEKENDS? >> PIERCE: IF THERE IS A PERSON THAT IS ON THE STREETS AND IS IN CRISIS, I MEAN, PSYCHIATRIC EMERGENCY ROOM OVER AT UNIVERSITY THAT IS REALLY SERVING AS THEIR BEHAVIOR TRIAGE CENTER WHICH IS SUCH A NEEDED RESOURCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS ONE OF THE PLACES THAT IS OPERATIONAL 24/7. THEY HAVE LIMITED BEDS IF SOMEBODY WAS NEEDING TO HOSPITALIZED BUT THAT IS AVAILABLE RESOURCE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE ASKING BUT IF SOMEBODY WERE -- WE SAW SOMEBODY IN CRISIS ON THE STREETS AND A RESIDENT SAW SOMEONE IT IS 768-HELP WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY TO GO. >> Coun. Pena: I JUST WANTED TO SAY UNMH IF SOMEONE IS HAVING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS BUT THEY KIND OF WEED YOU OUT IF YOU WILL IF THEY SUSPECT THAT IT IS MAINLY SUBSTANCE ABUSE. IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THAT, IT WOULD BE AMAZING BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY VIEW IT AS THAT OFTENTIMES. >> PIERCE: I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. IT SPEAKS TO A GAP IN OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT IS RELATED TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE ESPECIALLY METH THAT A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE WEED $OUT OF THE SYSTEM. I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT COMMENTS BACK TO THE SERVICES GROUP LOOKING AT THAT. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. THAT IS A BIGY. THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST GAPS WE HAVE. SUN VAN TICKETS, IF SOMEBODY CAN PLEASE PUT SUN VAN TICKETS ONLINE, YOU WOULD BE AMAZING. >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSIT. WE ARE WORKING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM ONLINE. ALSO, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER CITIZENS INTERESTED IN SELLING SUN VAN PASSES AND AS A REMINDER, CAN YOU BUY THEM AT THE ART PLATFORMS, AT ANY ART KIOSKS. >> ALBERTSON'S CLOSED, IF YOU SEE MEAN ON THE ART KIOSK, THAT IS ME BUYING SUN VAN TICKETS. >> Coun. Davis: YOU REMEMBER AT END OF LAST ADMINISTRATION WE HAD A HEARING WITH SOME RIDERS ABOUT MOVING ALL THAT PROCESS ON LINE AND WE STARTED IT AND IT WAS PUT ASIDE TO FINISH ART. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO REVISIT IT. THANKS FOR REMINDING US. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. I AM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A RETAIL FACILITY RELATIVELY LATE AGENDA WHICH I AM CAUTIOUS TO SAY ANYTHING OF THE SORT BUT I DO WANT TO FIRST OF ALL FOLLOW-UP WITH DCSMATHERS ABOUT WHAT I CALL EXHIBITION DRIVING. IT MAY BE RACING OR SHOWING OFF. IT MAY BE CLOGGING UP DOWNTOWN WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER RIOT GOING ON. BUT, IT IS ILLEGAL AND IT IS NOISY. IT IS NOT ONLY UNSAFE DUE TO SPEED, BUT IT IS A HUGE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR PEOPLE ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE NEW CORRIDOR. AND I AM SYMPATHETIC AND REALIZE THE CHALLENGE. BECAUSE, FOLKS ARE ORGANIZING WHERE THEIR ACTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO DO SO. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE THE BOX SOMEHOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. MAYBE IT IS BEING UNDERCOVER WITH THESE PEOPLE, MAYBE IT IS USING TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FAIRLY AFFORDABLE HIGH TECHNOLOGY PHOTOGRAPHY AND MAYBE IN THE HANDS OF PSA'S AND NOT NECESSARILY SWORN OFFICERS THAT ARE JUST GOING OUT -- I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH CHIEF MEDINA AND PREVIOUSLY WITH CHIEF GEIER AND PREVIOUS CHIEFS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE I LIVE ALONG THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR. FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM A VICTIM OF THIS BECAUSE I CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT AND I AM HOPING THERE ISN'T A BIG CRASH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IT IS REALLY OUT OF HAND. I MAINTAIN IT IS A PATH WAY, MAYBE NOT A PATH WAY BUT A REFLECTION OF OTHER CRIMINALITY OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. I APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR PENA'S SUGGESTING IT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH HER AND COUNCILOR SENA AND YOU AND TRY TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER. (CAPTIONS PAUSED BRIEFLY) (CANDLINGS PAUSED BRIEFLY. (CAPTIONS PAUSED BRIEFLY) PENNY JUST WANT TO SAY WE >> Coun. Pena: YOU KNOW I THINK IT IS A CULTURE. UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A FEW PEOPLE THAT RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE. THAT IS USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE INSTANCES. SOME OF THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE HAVING FUN LIKE THE LOW RIDERS BUT SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ARE JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, OBEYING THE LAW. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ALSO ADD THAT THE GUN SHOT DETECTION HAS SEEMED TO HELP SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING CREATIVE LIKE THAT. >> Coun. Sena: I JUST WANTED TO NOTE I AHAPPY TO HEAR SOUNDS LIKE DEPUTY CHIEF OF FIELD SERVICES IS VERY TALENTED AND BEFORE HE LEFT HE WAS AT NORTHWEST AREA COMMAND. VERY GLAD TO HEAR ME IS BACK. >> Coun. Davis: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >> VERY BRIEFLY I WANT TO CHANGE TOPICS. DIRECTOR SANCHEZ IF I COULD GET YOU UP HERE. TO AVOID US HAVING TO BREAK OUT A PIECE FROM CONSENT IF IT IS NOT NECESSARY. ON CONSENT WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF AWARDS BIOPARK SOCIETY TO RUN THE TICKETING AND CUSTOMER SERVICE PROGRAM FOR THE BIOPARK. I KNOW WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS FOR YOU. LATE LAST WEEK WE HEARD CONCERNS FROM CITY WORKERS IN LABOR UNION THAT REPRESENTS SOME OF THOSE WORKERS IN CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THIS WOULD REPLACE THOSE POSITIONS FOR UNION CITY WORKERS OR PRIVATIZE SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS AND SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLAN FOR THOSE POSITIONS, THOSE WORKERS, IF THIS NEW CONTRACT IS PUT INTO PLACE OR APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST CLARIFY SOME THINGS. I KNOW WHENEVER WE ARE CHANGING THINGS AND MOVING RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND IT CREATES CONCERNS. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF ANY CITY JOBS. I FIGHT REALLY HARD TO KEEP EVERY SINGLE POSITION I CAN IN MY DEPARTMENT. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES CONTINUE TO WORK FOR US. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE GUEST SERVICES MANAGER ON THE CITY SIDE, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF OUR GUESTS AND WE ARE BRINGING ON THIS CONTRACTOR TO HELP US DO A BETTER JOB OF IT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T HAVE CONTINUED RESPONSIBILITY AND CONTINUED DUTIES. THERE ARE FOUR UNION POSITIONS THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY SERVE IN VISITOR SERVICES. SO, I KNOW THOSE POSITIONS ARE PROBABLY MOST AT CONCERN BUT THEY WILL TO DO THE WORK. WE WILL NEED CITY EMPLOYEES TO INTERFACE DAILY WITH OUR GUEST SERVICES CONTRACTOR. VERIFYING AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES NTRACKING THE MONEY THAT COMES IN THROUGH CONTRACTORROR AND CONTINUING COMMUNICATIONS. I KNOW THERE IS ALSO FIVE OTHER UNION JOBS UNDER THE GUEST SERVICES MANAGER. S SO WILL CONTINUE. THOSE ARE EDUCATION AND MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS POSITIONS. THOSE ARE STAYING EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WHAT IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS CHANGE WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM NINE TO 16 TEMPORARY CASHIERS THAT WE HERE THROUGH A TEMP AGENCY. THOSE ARE NOT THE BEST JOBS. THEY ARE NOT PERMANENT JOBS AND OUR CONTRACTOR WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO OFFER BETTER POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE TEMP. THEY WILL BE FULL-TIME LONG-TERM POSITIONS THROUGH CONTRACTOR. >> Coun. Davis: CUSTOMER SERVICE WILL REMAIN. >> THEY WILL REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE AND HAVE THE SAME JOB DESCRIPTIONS, STILL REPORT UP TO A CITY GUEST SERVICES MANAGER. AND THEY WILL REALLY BE OUR INTERFACE WITH ALL OF THE GUEST SERVICES WITH OUR CONTRACTOR. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. JOB DUTIES OR JOB DESCRIPTIONS. THEY ARE STILL ON OUR TEAM. >> Coun. Davis: CLARIFY THE NEXT PART. THIS CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY REPLACES THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN RIB ON ROCK. TICKET HANDLERS AND CASH HANDLERS AT THE GATE BUT NOT REPLACING CITY EMPLOYEES. >> THAT IS RIGHT. CASHIERS ABSOLUTELY. >> Coun. Borrego: I HAD A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR SANCHEZ. BECAUSE I DID RAISE THIS ISSUE AT OUR LAST MEETING. BECAUSE I HAD TALKED TO SOME FOLKS FROM AFSCME. I WONDER IF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH AFSCME BECAUSE THEY DID RAISE THIS ISSUE TO MY OFFICE. >> I HAVE NOT SPOKEN DIRECTLY WITH AFSCME. THEY HAVE NOT RAISED THIS ISSUE WITH OUR KEPT OR ANYBODY IN OUR DEPARTMENT OR -- >> Coun. Borrego: I RACED THIS ISSUE AT THE LAST MEETING AND JOSH ANDERSON IS WHO YOU SPOKE WITH. IT IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. I AM WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO DEFER FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM. >> Coun. Davis: QUESTION WAS POSED TO YOU ABOUT A POSSIBLE DEFERRAL. >> AS I SAID WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY UNION POSITIONS. WE ARE NOT CHANGING THEIR HOURS. NOT CHANGING THEIR SUPERVISORS. WE ARE NOT CHANGING RESPONSIBILITIES. SO, I MEAN, I AM ALWAYS HAPPY TO MEET WITH UNION REPRESENTATIVES IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS BUT I ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST UNEASY BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING THIS CHANGE. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD. ACTUAL CONTRACT WILL ALSO COME BACK TO YOU IN TWO OR 3 MONTHS. SO IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH UNION TO REASSURE THEM WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY POSITIONS WE HAVE A LONG TIME IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> Coun. Borrego: I WOULD ENCOURAGE DIRECTOR TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM. >> Coun. Gibson: I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BORREGO. I THINK A GOOD STANDING HERE FOR DEFERRAL ON THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY, DIRECTOR SANCHEZ, AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE NOT YET HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH AFSCME. I UNDERSTAND AND I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE YOU THAT THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE COULD BE -- THEY WILL NO LONGER BE REPRESENTED BY A UNION, I DON'T BELIEVE, AND THERE COULD BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT BENEFITS. ANYWAY, I UNDERSTAND THIS WENT OUT IN JANUARY AND I AM SORRY THAT WE ARE JUST NOW TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW. THE LINKAGE BETWEEN THIS CONTRACT WHICH I SUPPORT, ABSOLUTELY, I SUPPORT. WENT OVER TO THE ZOO, SAW IT IS A GREAT IDEA. WANT TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY AND AFSCME REGARDING THESE FOLKS. SO, I'LL BE SUPPORTING A DEFERRAL AS WELL. >> Coun. Davis: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND OR CLARIFY ANYTHING THERE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON. >> SANCHEZ: AGAIN I CAN ONLY REITERATE WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY POSITIONS, WE ARE NOT MOVING ANY OF THE POSITIONS. ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE GUEST SERVICES OR VISITOR SERVICES POSITION OF WHICH THERE ARE FOUR. WE HAVE TWO TEAMS, ONE B29 AND ONE C22 THAT ALL WORK DIRECTLY IN VISITOR SERVICES. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH VISITOR SERVICES AND WITH VISITORS AND THOSE POSITIONS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE AT ALL. THOSE ARE THE ONLY POSITIONS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CITY POSITIONS THAT ARE UNION POSITIONS THAT REALLY WORK DIRECTLY WITH FRONT LINE VISITORS. THE OTHER FIVE POSITION ALSO THAT ARE UNION POSITIONS IN GUEST SERVICES, THOSE ARE EDUCATORS MARKETING SPECIALISTS AND EVENT SUPERVISORS. THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME WORK AS DO ALL OF THEM. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. THE POSITIONS THAT WILL CHANGE ARE THE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES THAT ONLY WORK FOR THE CITY FOR UP TO TWO YEARS AND THEN THEY HAVE TO ROTATE OUT PER OUR CITY RULES ON TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. >> THEY WILL HAVE MUCH BETTER POSITIONS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE CONTRACT SO I THINK IF WE HAVE CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS, I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAMMER OUT THE DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT WITH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT IS ON THE TABLE FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR BENTON I THINK YOU HAVE ONE ON THIS POINT. I'LL TRY TO CLOSE THIS CONVERSATION. >> Coun. Benton: QUICKLY. DIRECTOR SANCHEZ, APPRECIATED THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT THIS. I HAD IMPRESSION THAT ALTHOUGH THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO CUTS TO CITY CLASSIFIED POSITIONS, THAT THERE WERE SOME NEW POSITIONS OR NEW JOBS BEING CREATED WITH REGARD TO THIS CONTRACT. I KNOW YOU CLARIFIED THAT THE CONTRACT HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL REGARDLESS. BUT, SO, I AM CLEAR ON THE FACT THAT THE OUT SOURCE CONTRACT FOR BASICALLY TICKET BOOTH TYPE WORK WILL NOW BE PART OF THE BIOPARK CONTRACT AND THAT THAT REQUIRES SOME SUPERVISION BY HAD THE SENSE THAT THERE WERE OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE, THAT RIGHTLY CAN BE PUBLIC SERVICES TYPE OUTREACH POSITIONS BUT THAT THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY JUST BE OVERSEEING THE BIOPARK WORK. COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT? >> SANCHEZ. WE DID TALK ABOUT NEW UNION POSITIONS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO CREATE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, ACTUALLY. ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT TIED TO THIS CONTRACT. IT IS ALL PART OF OUR PLANNING TOGETHER SO WE SEE ALL THESE THINGS AS BEING CONNECTED. IN THE CURRENT BUDGET PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WE DO PROPOSE SHIFTING HALF OF OUR TEMPORARY SERVICES MONEY INTO EIGHT TO NINE FULL-TIME POSITIONS, AT LEAST EIGHT OF THOSE WOULD BE UNION JOBS AT THE BIOPARK FOCUSING ON ANIMAL CARE AQUATICS HORTICULTURE. ALL THOSE SPACES WHERE WE WANT ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT OF CITY TIME AND ADDITIONAL UNION JOBS FOR THE BIOPARK AND THE CITY. BEEN >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. WE DEFINITELY ARE IN SUPPORT OF -- IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE GOT -- WE ARE ALREADY OUTSOURCING SOMETHING TO A TEMP AGENCY AND WE CAN PUT IT IN PEOPLES WHO HEARTS ARE IN THE ENDEAVOR WE WANT TO DO THAT. IT IS IN THE INTERESTS OF AFSCME UNION AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. >> Coun. Davis: TO BRING THIS -- COUNCILOR SENA WANTS TO WEIGH IN. AS A MATTER OF FORM HERE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A BIT OF DISCUSSION. I AM ASKING THE HOST TO PULL ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE CAN CONSIDER THAT A LITTLE FURTHER. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE. QUICK QUESTION, GOING THAT YOU PROPOSAL SUBMITTED AND JUST A BRIEF QUESTION. THE ZOO KEEPERS THAT WE MENTIONS TRYING TO BECOME PERMANENT, WOULD THEY BE CONSIDERED UNION. >> SANCHEZ. COUNCIL PRESIDENT DAVIS, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR ME WHICH NEW POSITIONS SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT NEW BATCHES OF NEW POSITIONS. THAT WOULD BE UNDER CONTRACTOR AND NEW POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET. COULD CLARIFY WHICH BATCH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNTIL. >> Coun. Sena: MINE WAS SPECIFIC TO THE POSITION IN REGARDS TO OUR ZOO KEEPERS. I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR ZOO KEEPERS WERE TEMP AND HOPING TO BRING THOSE ON MORE PERMANENT SO IF WE DO BRING THEM ON PERMANENT ARE THOSE UNION OR I JUST COULDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PROPOSAL. >> SANCHEZ: I BELIEVE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR TONIGHT DOESN'T ADDRESS AT ALL THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET. THIS REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT GUEST SERVICES. AGAIN, THOSE POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE CREATED THROUGH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT WOULD NOT BE TEMP POSITIONS, THEY WOULD BE FULL-TIME WITH CONTRACTOR, THEY WOULD NOT BE UNION POSITIONS BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE NONPROFIT. THEY WOULD BE STABLE, LONG-TERM, GOOD PAYING POSITIONS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BENEFITS. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. APPRECIATE THAT. >> Coun. Borrego: I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM OR HOW WOULD I DO THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER IT BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS. >> Coun. Davis: I HAVE ALREADY ASKED TO REMOVE THAT, WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ACTION ITEMS WE'LL CONSIDER AGENDA ITEMS WITHOUT IT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR ADMINISTRATION Q AND A? >> SEEING NONE, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE -- I MOVED FAST. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR THE JOURNAL. >> Coun. Gibson: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 21 JOURNAL. >> Coun. Davis: I RECOGNIZE COUNCILOR BENTON AS THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS NEXT UP WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS INTRODUCTIONS. A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING EC-170 ON THE AGENDA FOR FINAL ACTION. RECOMMENDATION FOR COVID-19 COST RECOVERY SERVICES. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I ALSO MOVE TO AMEND LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO PLACE R-10 FOR, ADOPTING UPDATE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MANUAL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Borrego: I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. >> I WAS WONDERING WHY, BECAUSE THIS IS A LAND USE MATTER, SO I WONDERED WHY WE ARE MOVING IT OVER TO FINANCE? >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE NOT MOVING IT TO FINANCE BUT TO THE OCTOBER 19 COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FULL CONSIDERATION. I THINK IT WAS DURING THE STAFF MEETING STAFF EXPRESSED COUNCILORS -- FULL COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM SO WE TOOK THAT ADVICE AND PROPOSED. >> Coun. Borrego: THAT IS REFERRING IT TO LUPZ. WHY WOULD WE NOT BE REFERRING IT TO LUPZ? >> Coun. Davis: AT THE STAFF MEETING YOUR STAFF AND OTHERS EXPRESSED OTHER COUNCILORS WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COVERAGE THAT WERE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE. IT WAS ITEM THAT WAS DONE AT REQUEST OF COUNCIL STAFF TO EXPAND THE COOPERATION. ANY OTHER QUESTION OR EXECUTION ON THAT? SEEING NONE. WILL WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-107 AND REFERRING IT TO FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. R-107 IS MAKING FINDINGS IN CONNECTION WITH THE RESOLUTION OF THE WINROCK TOWN CENTER TAX INCREMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF SUBORDINATE LIEN TAX INCREMENT BONDS. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. DISEDGE NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: YOU HAVE ANOTHER? >> Coun. Gibson: I'LL MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING OC-12 AND PLACING IT ON OCTOBER 19 COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. OC12 IS APPOINTMENT OF MEMBER TO THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DEFERRALS WITHDRAWALS? ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> Coun. Gibson: MOVE APPROVAL OF LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU ALL. NEXT UP WE HAVE REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. THIS WEEK THERE ARE NONE. DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS ARE NEXT. >> Coun. Harris: THIS IS I THINK I MEDIAL TO DO DEFERRAL AND MOTION TO EXTEND THE RULES. EC-FOR 36 I MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PRESENTING EC--- AND DEFERRING MATTER TO DECEMBER 7. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: WE ALSO HAVE DEFERRALS FOR FINAL ACTION. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE O-28, REPEALING CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTIONS 13-6-1 THROUGH 13-6-99, THE PAWNBROKER ORDINANCE AND REPLACING WITH IT A NEW ORDINANCE AMEND BEING EXISTING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO PAWNBROKERS AND EXTENDING REGULATIONS TO PRECIOUS MATERIAL DEALERS AND SECONDHAND RETAILERS. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL OCTOBER 19. >> Coun. Davis: A NUMBER OF SECONDS. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> WE'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. OF. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP RELATING TO R TWO, NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING IN NEED OF ABATEMENT FOR 12 GEORGIA, WE HAVE SEEN MOVEMENT FROM THE OWNER. I WOULD MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL JANUARY 4. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. NEXT UP COUNCILORS HARRIS -- COUNCILOR HARRIS. >> Coun. Harris: THIS IS M1 URGING U.S. CONGRESS TO AMEND NATIONAL TRAILS SYSTEM ACT TO DESIGNATE THE ROUTE 66 NATIONAL HIS SUPPORT I CAN TRAIL. MOVE DEFERRAL TO NOVEMBER 2. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL SECOND THAT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS. WE'LL MOVE ONTO CONSENT AGENDA. AS NOTED I HAVE ASKED THE CLERK TO PULL ITEM B EC-21-44, MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD TO BIOPARK SOCIETY. WE'LL DO THAT AS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> Coun. Pena: I WAS JUST NOTICING THAT I WAS A CO-SPONSOR AND NOW MY NAME IS OFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A TYPO OR WHAT, BUT IT WAS HARRIS, BENTON, MYSELF AND I THINK, YOU DAVIS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE EVER BEEN ON THERE. I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT HAPPENED TOO. MAYBE THEY GOT SWAPPED BY ACCIDENT. >> Coun. Davis: MR. MOYA NOTED IT IS CORRECT ON AGENDA AND IN FILING IT IS TYPO ON YOUR STAFF NOTES. WE'LL CORRECT THAT FOR THE NEXT VERSION FOR ITEM WE JUST DEFERRED. COUNCILORS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEMS OR CHANGES TO CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND ONE DAY WE'LL GET YOU DOWN HERE IN PERSON WHERE WE CAN MEET YOU. UNTIL THEN, THANK YOU FOR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. DO I SEE YOU HAVE A MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK YOU SAID YOU MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. I CAN READ YOUR LIPS. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> OF. >> Coun. Davis: WITH THAT WE ARE ON ITEM B. EC-21-44 MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD TO BIOPARK SOCIETY. I BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET US STARTED IN THIS DISCUSSION FTHERE IS ANY FURTHER. >> Coun. Borrego: I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DEFER THIS FOR TWO WEEKS TO OUR NEXT MEETING SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO MEET WITH THE AFSCME UNION REGARDING THIS TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK OUT ANY ISSUES THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR TWO WEEK DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Pena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: CLEAR THE BOARD. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR THAT DEFERRAL. COUNCILOR BASSAN IN FOR THE QUESTION. >> Councilor Bassan: I WONDER IF DIRECTOR SANCHEZ CAN TELL US WHAT THE DELAY -- HOW THE DELAY COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS SINCE JANUARY BUT IS TWO MORE WEEKS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY DETRIMENTAL OR CAN YOU ELABORATED WHAT THOSE OPTIONS MAY BE. >> SANCHEZ: I ALWAYS LIKE TO GO FAST BUT TO BE HONEST WE ARE HAPPY FOR THE TWO WEEK DEFERRAL AND TO HAVE TIME TO MEET WITH UNION AND ALLAY ANY CONCERNS THEY MIGHT HAVE. >> Coun. Davis: HEARING THAT, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. MADAM CLERK. EC-20-144. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS WE ARE BACK UP TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. HEADS UP ON DECK IS COUNCILOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WILL MEET ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8 AND THEN AGAIN ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 15 AT 5:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENTING ONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 12 AT 3:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >> Coun. Sena: THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13 IS CANCELLED. >> Coun. Jones: LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14 IS CANCELLED. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? SEEING NONE WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. FOR FOLKS FOLLOWING ALONG. HERE IS WHAT I THINK WE'LL TRY TO DO. ALWAYS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING IF ANY CONVERSATIONS GET LONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATE. WE HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT AGENDA THIS EVENING AND IT IS ONLY FIVE:30. WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS OVER TWO HOURS SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS FROM THE TOP AND SEE IF WE CAN GO THROUGH WITHOUT A BREAK THIS EVENING. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. IF YOU NEED A BREAK, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TAKE ONE. LET US KNOW THAT YOU STEP AWAY IF YOU'RE OUT ON A PERSONAL BREAK. IF YOU NEED A LONGER BREAK, LET MYSELF OR MS. YARA KNOW. FOR EVERYBODY FOLLOWING AT HOME, WE'LL TRY TO GET US OUT OF HERE AT A REASONABLE OUR. WE'LL SEE IF I DIDN'T SCREW THAT UP BY SAYING IT. >> APPROVALS. I'LL BEGIN WITH EC-170. MOVE APPROVAL. MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION FROM ADMINISTRATION? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING BUDGET HEARINGS AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS FOR. I SEE RENE? NO QUESTIONS NO DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Councilor Bassan: I JUST NOTED IN THE STAFF WRITE UP THAT THE QUESTION THAT WAS PUT IN THERE WAS WHAT IS ANTICIPATED CONTRACT TERM. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MAY BE. >> RENE: SO, BECAUSE THERE ARE AUDIT ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR EXPENSES AND COSTS GOING UP TO DECEMBER AT LEAST FOR THE CARES RELIEF FUND AND THEN FEMA WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER MONEY FROM IMPACT FEE OWE SO THE CONTRACT TERM IS GOING OUT UNTIL AT LEAST MARCH OF NEXT YEAR JUST IN CASE WE DO NEED THAT. FUNDING IS GOING TO BE SPLIT. ACTIVITIES UP UNTIL DECEMBER CAN BE COVERED BY CARES RELIEF FUND AND PUT THAT INTO OUR SPENDING PLANS AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND WILL HAVE TO PICK UP THE REMAINDER OF THE COSTS INTO NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. SO THAT IS THE PLAN AS OF THIS TIME. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON EC-170. I SEE NO OTHER. ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU COUNCILORS. COUNCILLOR BENTON, O-18. >> Coun. Benton: IMPOSING MUNICIPAL GASOLINE TAX OF TWO CENTS PER GALLON CONDITIONAL ON VOTER APPROVAL. TO REHABILITATION PUBLIC STREETS AND ROADWAYS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I SEE I WAS GOING TO DO IT. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. WE HAVE HAD THIS BILL OUTLER FOR A WHILE, UP PREVIOUSLY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE -- THIS WOULD BE FOR A MUNICIPAL ELECTION OR THE GENERAL ELECTION NEXT YEAR WOULD BE THE TIME AT WHICH VOTERS MIGHT DECIDE THIS. BUT I WANTED TO KEEP IT OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND HOPEFULLY VOTE ON IT IN ABOUT A MONTH AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AND I INVITE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH ME, I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN YOUR IDEAS ABOUT IT. TO SUMMARIZE FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH IT, THE CITY HAS AUTHORITY TO PASS UP TO TWO CENTS. THAT WOULD BE EITHER 1, 1 1/2 OR TWO CENTS GASOLINE TAX ON OUR OWN UNDER STATE LAW. IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC VOTE. IT WOULD REQUIRE OF COURSE ACTION OF COUNCIL TO PUT IT BEFORE PUBLIC VOTE. AND WE HAVE JUST HAD A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR QUARTER CENT TAX. WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION AS WE SPEAK NOW ABOUT OUR BUDGET FOR OUR DMD DEPARTMENT AND THINGS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. BUT, WE KNOW THAT OUR ROADWAY SYSTEM THAT WE ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON IT AND WITH REGARD TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT. GENERAL MAINTENANCE ACROSS THE BOARD AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DMD ABOUT THIS. THIS DOESN'T GENERATE A LOT OF MONEY. IT GENERATES BETWEEN SOMEWHERE 1 1/2 AND TWO MILLION A YEAR BUT IF WE WERE TO BOND AGAINST THAT MONEY AS WE JUST FOUND OUT THROUGH THE QUARTER CENT TAX, GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, THAT WE COULD DO SOME MORE WORK. I REALLY THINK THE WAY I HAVE THIS WRITTEN NOW IS IN GENERAL TERMS OF GENERAL MAINTENANCE. TRYING TO KEEP ROADWAYS UP TO SPEED BUT BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER OTHER LANGUAGE SUCH AS TALKING ABOUT VISION ZERO AFTER COMPLETE STREETS EFFORTS AND SPECIFICALLY THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT WHICH TIES INTO BOTH OF THOSE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED PROGRAMS. SO, ADA IS TIED INTO COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO WHICH IS OUR ESTABLISHED CITY GOAL OF MINIMIZING, IF NOT ELIMINATING, TOTALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON THE ROADWAYS. IT IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. TWO CENTS IS TWO CENTS PER GALLON AND THAT IS WHATEVER IT IS. YOU KNOW. 10 CENTS OR 20 CENTS PER FILL UP, BUT, WE NEED TO KEEP ALL OUR REVENUE OPTIONS OPEN RIGHT NOW. AND, WE MAY NOT KNOW HOW WE FEEL OR THE PUBLIC FEELS UNTIL NEXT YEAR BUT NEXT YEAR IS WHEN THIS WOULD BE ON THE BALLOT IF WE CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR IT. I WANT TO SEE IF THERE IS FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW BUT, AGAIN, MY EARS ARE OPEN, MY DOOR IS OPEN TO DISCUSS, WHAT IS IT, MY VIRTUAL DOOR IS OPEN TO DISCUSS THIS. AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD REALLY GIVE A SHOT AND LET OUR VOTERS DECIDE. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. PRESIDENT, ON THIS, I WELCOME DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW BUT IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION BY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO DEFER THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER 2. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL SECOND IT. COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE, FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT A FEW YEARS AGO AND YOU BROUGHT UP. AND DECIDED ULTIMATELY DECIDED WE WOULD LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONSES. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, LET VOLTERS DECIDE. WE ARE RECOGNIZING IT IS NOT JUST ROADWAYS, SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND A GOOD WAY TO HELP US CATCH UP ON A LOTS OF THOSE DEFERRED OBLIGATIONS LIKE ADA. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT. Z I WOULD SUPPORT THAT SECOND MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON THANK YOU FOR DEFERRAL. WELL HOPEFULLY THE DEFERRAL. BUT, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT -- I APPRECIATE INVITATION TO HAVE THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN. I RECOGNIZE THE NEED MONEY TO KEEP THING GOING BUT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST PROCEED WITHOUT THEIR INPUT. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE AND WE CAN HOPEFULLY HEAR BACK FROM PEOPLE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO AND MOVE ON FROM THERE. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILLOR BENTON TO CLOSE ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Benton: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. N PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT MONTH. O-30. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. O-30 IS ADOPTING A NEW ARTICLE IN CHAPTER 13, ROA, 1994. BUSINESS AND OCCUPATIONS TO BE KNOWN AS SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A PERMITTING FEE AND AMENDING SECTION FOR-FOR-13ROA 1994, LODGERS TAX ADVISORY BOARD TO INCLUDE SHORT TERM RENTAL REPRESENTATIVE. I AM GOING TO MOVE A DO PASS AND WE DO HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO OTHERS. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: BACK TO THE BILL. YOU WANT TO GO TO AMENDMENTS OR MS. MORRIS? >> Coun. Gibson: WHY DON'T WE GO TO MS. MORRIS. THERE WAS A SPEAKER, MR. HORAN SPOKE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I DON'T THINK I REALLY NEED TO SPEAK FOR HIM. I THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB OF SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF BUT WAS HOPING -- I AM SORRY. I THOUGHT I HAD MY VIDEO ON. APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE MS. MORRIS COULD TALK ABOUT HOW THE ORDINANCE HANDLES COMPLAINTS, HOW WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE FAIR BUT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP THINGS -- KEEP THESE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, AT SOME VERY MINIMUM STANDARD. SO, MS. MORRIS COULD YOU, PERHAPS, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE? >> MORRIS: YES. SO, TWO MECHANISMS. FIRST IS PERMIT ITSELF. AS PART OF THE PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION ON EACH UNIT AND IT WILL BE PERMITTED SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND WHO THE CONTACTS ARE. THROUGH THE PERMIT, WE'LL ANTICIPATE WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY COMPLIANCE COMPANY AND THEY OFFER A 24/7, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMPLIANCE COMPANIES, I SHOULD SAY, OFFER A 24/7 HOT LINE FOR PEOPLE TO CALL AND SO, N1 THAT WILL BE GOOD ACCESS FOR THE NEIGHBORS. THEY CAN CALL AND MAKE A COMPLAINT IF THERE IS A PARTY, HE CAN, AT A UNIT, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, RILEYING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT WHO GENERALLY ARE AN 8:00 TO 5:00 AND APD WHERE IT IS MORE ABOUT CRIMINAL MATTERS. SO, THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR NEIGHBORS TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT BUT IT WILL ALSO BE GOOD FROM A BASIC COLLECTION STANDPOINT. RIGHT NOW WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS WHERE THERE ARE PARTIES BUT A LOT OF TIME HOW DO YOU SUBSTANTIATE THE COMPLAINT? SO THE 24/7 HOT LINE WILL BE A MECHANISM TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE SUBSTANTIATING COMPLAINTS ASPECT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE BILL HAS AN ENFORCEMENT SECTION WITHIN IT. AND, THERE IS A KIND OF THREE STRIKES AND YOUR OUT SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THERE IS THREE VIOLATIONS THAT COULD RESULT IN THE PERMIT BEING PULLED THIS THIS WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING LIKE WEEDS THAT COULD BE REMEDIED QUICKLY BUT IF A SUBSTANTIAL PROBLEM THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS WORKING WITH AND IT I NOT GETTING RESOLVED OR FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE REGULAR PARTY, THAT IS SOMETHING TELEOTICS AND YOUR WHERE THREE STRIKES YOU ARE OUT WILL COME INTO EFFECT. >> ASSUMING THE BILL PASSES, WE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE REVISITING THAT POTENTIALLY IN A CAREER OR 2. IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BILL ISN'T EFFECTIVE ENOUGH OR IF THERE IS INCONSISTENCY OR CONCERNS WITHIN THERE IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD ALWAYS REVISIT IN THE FUTURE. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. SO, WE CAN GO TO AMENDMENTS UNLESS THERE IS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> Coun. Davis: A BRIEF QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO AMENDMENTS WHILE WE ARE EXPLAINING THE BILL. WOULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME IF I MISSED IT. THE IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD FOR THIS BILL. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LEAD WAY FOR THIS, IN OTHER WORDS THIS DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT NEXT WEEK. THERE IS A DELAY TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO COMPLY. ALSO I THINK FOR SMART CONSIDERATION FOR BUILDING THE SYSTEM AND FOR THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW IN THIS ECONOMY THERE IS NOT A RENTAL HAPPENING. SO, THERE WOULD BE A DEFERRAL ON THE RULES. COULD YOU SPEAK QUICKLY ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD? >> MORRIS. THERE IS A SIX MONTH EFFECTIVE PERIOD ON THIS BILL. IT IS BUILT IN WITH THE 6 MONTH PERIOD FOR TWO MAIN REASONS. FIRST ONE IS AT 6 MONTHS EFFECTIVE PERIOD GIVES PLANNING AND TREASURY TIME TO ISSUE RFP TO GET COMPLIANCE COMPANY ON BOARD AND SET UP THE STUFF WE WOULD NEED FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT. THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD ALSO ALLOWS THE CITY TO REACH OUT TO SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS AND EDUCATE THEM, THAT THERE IS A PERMIT SYSTEM COMING UP AND HERE IS WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO APPLY AND ALL THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THEY'LL NEED TO GET ORGANIZED ON. THERE IS A CUSHION OF TIME BUILT IN TO THE BILL. TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, AS IT WERE. >> Coun. Davis: COMMEND THE SPONSOR AND STAFF FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT. THAT IS EXCELLENT WAY TO DO IT AND IT IS GOOD TO PUT SYSTEM IF PLACE NOW SO AS THE ECONOMY COMES BACK THAT IS EASY FOR US TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE FOR THEM AT THAT POINT. >> Coun. Borrego: I WAS JUST WONDERS, IS THERE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT? ARE WE GOING TO WORK -- ARE WE GOING TO WORK WITH CHAMBERS? HOW IS THAT INFORMATION RELAYED TO THE PUBLIC? >> MORRIS: SO, BECAUSE OF THE WORK OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL TASKFORCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS WITHIN THE INDUSTRY. YOU HEARD EARLIER FROM FROM VRBO. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF WEBSITES OF THAT HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY. THEN WE ALSO HAVE CONTACTSES WITH AIR BNB. THEY ACTUALLY COFFEE THINK IT IS CLOSE THEN, DURING THE TASKFORCE WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH ARMENTA FROM VISIT ABQ. SO, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR CONTACTS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS ON THIS TOPIC TO GET ALL THE EDUCATION OUT THERE. >> Coun. Davis: ANY QUESTIONS? >> AS YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I WAS GOING TO CALL COUNCILOR BORREGO FIRST. >> Coun. Borrego: CAN I JUMP RIGHT IN. >> Coun. Borrego: IT WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1 ON PAGE 5, LINE 24 THROUGH 30, AMEND LANGUAGE AS FOLLOWS. CREATED LODGERS TAX ADVISORY BOARD WHICH SHALL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS ALL OF WHOM SHALL BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, TWO OF WHOM SHALL REPRESENT THE LODGING INDUSTRY AND TWO DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN TOURISM RELATED INDUSTRY, ONE WHO SHALL REPRESENT SHORT TERM INDUSTRY AND TWO MEMBERS AT LARGE WHO SHALL REPRESENT THE PUBLIC OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS AT LEAST ONE SHALL REPRESENT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY. IT GOES ONTO READ THE LANGUAGE IN COUNCILOR GIBSON'S BILL. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, I WORKED WITH VISITORS BUREAU, MS. ARMENTA THIS MORNING TO DEFINE THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. I MOVE AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Coun. Davis: DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION? PER. >> Coun. Borrego: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. OF. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. OF. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP WE HAVE TWO OTHER BILLS ONE IS AMENDING SECTION A AND ONE IS B. AMENDMENT FOR B FOLLOWS A SO COUNCILOR PENA YOUR UP. >> FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. >> Coun. Pena: FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2 ON PAGE 3 IN THE BEGINNING LINE ON 29 IN SECTION 1397A, SHORT TERM RENTAL OCCUPANCY REVISED AS FOLLOWS. MAXIMUM OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY AN STRU IS LIMITED TO MAXIMUM OF TWO ADULTS PER BEDROOM PLUS ADDITIONAL TWO ADULTS FOR EACH UNIT EXCLUDING STUDIOS OR EFFICIENCIES SUCH TWO BEDROOM HOUSE WOULD HAVE OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCIES OF 6 ADULTS OR THREE BEDROOM WOULD WILL HAVE OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY OF EIGHT ADULTS. ADULT IS ANY PERSON OVER THE AGE OF 12. >> THIS WOULD ALLOW THE USE OF ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR SLEEPING. THIS IS IN OUR PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND IT IS HERE SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT IT JUST GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY -- I KNOW FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS OUT OF THEIR HOME, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW, PARTIES AND STUFF THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH LARGE FAMILIES. I ACTUALLY HAVE USED THEM FOR REALLY TREMENDOUS COST SAVING MEASURES. THE ABILITY TO PUT TWO MORE PEOPLE IN LIVING ROOM FOLD OUT BED WOULD BE AWESOME. >> Coun. Davis: THAT IS NO. 2. I SEE OF COUPLE SECOND. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> I'LL ASK MR. MOYA TO CLEAR THE BOARD AND THEN I'LL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS AMENDMENT NO. 2. I HAVE ONE IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES TO THE SPONSOR. SINCE YOU WORKED ON THE TASKFORCE, I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS, I AGREE COUNCILLOR PENA, I USED THESE AS WELL. I HAVE BEEN THAT PERSON WHO SLEPT ON THE COUCH IN THE TWO BEDROOM HOUSE. BUT, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ISSUE WITH NUMBER OF CARS PARKING, ET CETERA. I KNOW THE TASKFORCE LOOKED AT THOSE QUESTIONS. I AM NOT OPPOSED JUST CURIOUS, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS AND IF YOU HAVE INSIGHT ON HOW THE WORKING GROUP MIGHT LOOK AT THIS AMENDMENT? >> Coun. Gibson: I THINK THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT AND THIS IS WHAT WE ENDED UP -- THE PART OF WE ENDED UP GOING TO WHICH IS SORT OF BASED ON HOTELS OR BNB'S, BED AND BREAKFASTS. >> BUT, IT WAS ALSO QUITE POPULAR WITHIN THE INDUSTRY THAT WE BE ABLE TO ADD THE PLUS TWO PER UNIT. FOR REASONS THAT COUNCILLOR PENA JUST MENTIONED FOR LARGER FARMLIES AND SLEEPER SOFAS ARE COMMON WHEREVER THERE IS ADEQUATE ROOM FOR A SOFA. >> Coun. Benton: I THINK IT IS GOOD TO DEFINE THIS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. WELL, TWO THINGS. ONE IS I WANTED TO CLARIFY DOES THIS SAY THAT IT IS GOING TO PUT THE CAP AT 12 PEOPLE NOW OR IS THAT PART OF THE EXAMPLE BASED OFF ROOMS. IF IT IS FOUR BEDROOM IT WOULD BE UP TO 10 PEOPLE? >> Coun. Pena: EXAMPLE. >> Councilor Bassan: I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR THIS AMENDMENT. I HAVE A BIG FAMILY. WE DON'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT AT LEAST SEVEN OF US. MY CHILDREN THEY ARE VERY BUDGET STILL BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE AND EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE 12, ALL OF THEM, TO WHERE THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO HAVE TO FIND A REALLY LARGE PLACE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REALITY FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A PARTY BUT JUST FOR FAMILIES THAT HAVE GONE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH THEIR CHILD REARING. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND WE DON'T HAVE PARTIES BUT THERE IS LIKE 30 OF US SO WE NEED ALL THE ROOM WE CAN GET. THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, AS I STATED DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS PARTY ASPECT THAT WORRIES ME AND I HAVE PARTIES WITH THE BEST OF THEM BUT I AM A HOMEOWNER AND I AM NOT OPERATING A BUSINESS IN MY HOME. >> SO I UNDERSTAND THE RIGHTS TO OPERATE THESE IS THE SAME AS A HOMEOWNER BUT THIS IS REALLY A COMMERCIAL OPERATION IN A TYPICALLY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK BY DEFINITION, MAYBE NOT, BUT, SO I AM PUTTING THIS OUT THERE FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND HOPE I AM NOT OFFENDING THE SPONSOR WHO HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THIS IS PUTTING THIS OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION, WHETHER THE MAGIC NUMBER AS I CALLED ITEM IS 20 OR 16 OR 18. BUT I KNOW WHAT A PARTY LOOKS LIKE IN A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE UNLESS IT IS A GIANT ONE AND THEN IT BECOMES SOMETHING ELSE ALTOGETHER. AGAIN THIS IS FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT SO, I'LL MOVE THIS AS A FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER. WOULD THIS BE 3 NOW. SO I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 3 WHICH STATES, BASICALLY PAGE 3, BEGINNING LINE 32, GATHERINGS OF PERSON IN EXCESS OF MAXIMUM OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY SHALL NOT EXCEED TWO TIMES OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY OR STRIKE 20 AND PUT IN 16 PERSONS WHICH EVER IS LOWEST. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT NO. 3. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT. I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO NOT DICTATE AND MAKE SOMETHING UNTENABLE AS A BUSINESS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT UNTENABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT SEEMS IT IS ONE OF THE SITUATIONS IF WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE FAMILY OR WE WANT TO INVITE TO STAY AT ONE OF THESE AIR BNB'S OR WHATEVER WE CALL THEM, IT IS A GOOD PROCESS AND GOOD THING BUT IF THE HOME ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT GO IN, THEN WE GET A LARGER HOUSE WHICH ALLOWS MORE PEOPLE. I APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLIENTS ACTUALLY FOR SOMETHING ELSE BUT THEY CAME TO ME AND I SENT THEM OVER TO COUNCILLOR GIBSON, BUT, THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE HOMES THAT HAVE NUMEROUS BEDROOMS AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF LIKE SMALL CONFERENCES. THEY ARE MEETING GROUPS OR LAWYERS WHO COME IN OR OPHTHALMOLOGISTS AND THEY HAVE A GROUP OF 20 OR 30 PEOPLE AND THESE AREN'T PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTYING. THESE ARE PEOPLE MEETING AND NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT. I THINK THERE ARE USES OF THESE HOMES WHERE THERE CAN BE NUMEROUS PEOPLE BUT THE BEHAVIOR OF THESE PEOPLE IS NOT PARTIES AT ALL. JUST HAVING A GATHERING OR MEETING. >> Coun. Davis: THAT FOR THE SPONSOR? I THINK BOTH THE SPONSOR AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: I'LL TAKE IT. I TOTALLY AGREE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN TO REITERATE MY THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF IT IN DISTRICTS 2 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE NEAR DOWNTOWN AND UNM. OLD TOWN. THAT FUNDAMENTALLY THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE AGAIN TYPICALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THE BILL ADDRESSES THIS, DEFER TO UPON SUPPORT OF RESCUE, IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IT IS COMMERCIAL OCCURRING IN RESIDENTIAL. I SUPPORT THAT KIND OF MICRO ENTERPRISE IN GENERAL. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. WAY WORRY ABOUT IS THE GATHERINGS OUTSIDE OF THESE NUMBERS WHERE LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DOES HAVE SOME VERY LARGE HOUSE UNTIL NOT PREDOMINANTLY BUT EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND TO HAVE THAT BE REALLY AN EVENT CENTER WHICH IS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, OR A PARTY HOUSE, WHICH IS MUCH WORSE OPTION. IT IS A CONCERN AND I THINK IT WARRANTS SPECIAL REGULATION IN THOSE INSTANCES. WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED COUNCILLOR HARRIS I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH AND I DOUBT ANYONE WOULD, IF IT IS A RESPONSIBLE LANDLORD THAT IS DOING IT AND THERE IS ALWAYS THE OUT LIERS, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE HAD DOWN HERE IN THE COUNTRY CLUB. WE HAD A LANDLORD WHO APPARENTLY, AND NONE OF IT MATTERED TO HIM, HE DIDN'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR IT BUT IT WAS A FREE FOR ALL. AND I JUST THINK ABOUT AGAIN ALL KIDDING ASIDE, MY OWN PARTIES, WHEN IT GETS OVER 16 IT STARTS TO GET PRETTY LOUD. WE HAD ONE TIME WHERE WE HAD OVER 16 AND MY WIFE'S BEHAVE WENT CRAZY AND WENT AND STUNG SOMEBODY WHO WAS BEING TOO LOUD SO GOOD ON THEM. BUT, ANYWAY, THAT IS THE POINT AND I REALLY PUT THAT NO. 16 OUT THERE AS KIND OF A MARKER BUT IF THERE ARE 20 PEOPLE LEGALLY AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IF THERE ARE 20 PEOPLE LEGALLY IN THE BNB, THEY CAN ALSO BE THERE. THIS IS NOT LIMBING THAT. IT IS LIMITING OUTSIDE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BE SLEEPING IN THE FACILITY. >> Coun. Gibson: IF I MAY, I BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT COUNCILOR HARRIS SENT OVER TO US. WE DID LOOK AT THEIR EMAILS CAREFULY. GAVE US A HISTORY OF RECENT BOOKINGS AND WITH THIS BILL, THE WAY IT IS NOW AMENDED, FOR A SEVEN BEDROOM HOUSE WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE ADVERTISING THIS TO BE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE 20 PEOPLE. THAT WAS THE HIGHEST -- THE LARGEST GROUP THAT HE DID GIVE TO US. NOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALWAYS OUT LIERS WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRYING TO CUT CORNERS OR SKATE BY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS THE ONES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS. I THINK AT LEAST 90% OF THESE FOLKS ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM A LOT OF GUIDANCE. THEY ARE NOT BED AND BREAKFAST. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANIMAL. SO, REALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY THE ORDINANCE IS THE RESULT PRETTY MUCH, THE RESULT OF WHAT THE TASKFORCE WAS ABLE TO AGREE UPON. SO, THEY WEREN'T REALLY ABLE TO AGREE ON OTHER THINGS LIKE DENSITY OR DISTANCE BETWEEN SHORT TERM RENTALS WHICH SOME NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY, I AM HEARING FROM NEIGHBORHOODS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY, NOT JUST MY OWN DISTRICT. AND, BUT WE DIDN'T TRY -- YOU KNOW -- DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT REACH CONSENSUS. SO, TO BE FAIR AND OFFER A JUST AND MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR ALL PROVIDERS OF THIS INDUSTRY, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ALBUQUERQUE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTEL ROOMS. HARD TO IMAGINE NOW AFTER HOW MANY MONTHS OF COVID-19, BUT, DURING A BIG EVENT, CERTAINLY, BALLOON FIESTA AND OTHER THINGS ON THAT ORDER, WE RUN OUT OF HOTEL ROOMS TOO QUICKLY. I THINK WE ALL ARE PRETTY WELL AWARE OF THAT NOW. SO, I AM SORRY COUNCILOR BENTON, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS LIMITATION GOING FROM 20 TO 16. BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN AND I THINK WE TOOK THE MOST JUDICIOUS APPROACH WE COULD IN DEFINING AN UPPER CAPACITY LIMIT. BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I ALSO SAY IS THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY A PIECE IN THIS NOW SO IF WE HAVE A OWNER-OPERATOR OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL WHO IS MAYBE NOT FOLLOWING REAL CLOSELY WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THEIR RENTAL UNIT, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO BECAUSE IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND LIKE LIKE I SAID BEFORE I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE EXCEPTION FOR THE RULE BUT AS THE GOVERNING BODY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, I THINK THAT BREATHING LIFE INTO THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO A FEW THINGS, KIND OF PROTECTS INDUSTRY, NO. 1, PROTECT IMAGE THAT THE CITY PUTS OUT THERE FOR VISITING TOURISTS WHO COME AND DO STAY AT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT WILL GIVE SOME REASSURANCE TO NEIGHBORS THAT THERE IS SOME PLACE TO CALL. THERE IS MEAT IN THIS BILL AND WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE KI THINK, TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPRIETORS DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE STANDARD NOW THAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. >> Councilor Bassan: FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT I LIKE INCREASING THE BEDROOMS AND PERMISSIBLE AMOUNT THERE, THERE VHAS BEEN A TIME WHERE I HAVE GONE WITH SEVERAL FAMILY FRIENDS AND FAMILY RENTED A REALLY BIG HOUSE IN COLORADO. 22 OF US STAYING IN IT. AGAIN IT WAS WITH ALL THE CHILDREN. I REALIZE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALTOGETHER HERE BUT FOR MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND REASONS I JUST WORRY THAT BRINGING IT FROM 20 TO 16 IS GOING TO BE LIMITING IN A WAY THAT THE BEDROOMS -- I FEEL LIKE THE BEDROOMS AND SIZE OF THE HOUSE SHOULD IMPACT IT MORE THAN THE GATHERING BY NATURE. WHAT IF THERE WERE 22 PEOPLE IN A REALLY BIG HOUSE YET WE HAVE THIS LIMIT OF WHICH EVER IS LESS, THEN WHAT? THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME. >> Coun. Benton: JUST TO RESPOND TO COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF YOU HAVE A BIG ENOUGH HOUSE CAN YOU HAVE 22, YOU CAN HAVE 30 PEOPLE. WHAT THIS IS ADDRESSING IS THE PARTY IN EXCESS OF THE MAXIMUM. SO, THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT YOUR EXAMPLE. THIS IS ONLY FOR NON--- IT READS PERSONS IN EXCESS OF THE MAXIMUM OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY. SO THIS ISN'T A LESSER. IT HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT -- WHO ARE OVER AND ABOVE THE ALLOWED OCCUPANCY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND SO FORTH. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT THAT WAY, SO, NOW, I THINK IT DOES CLARIFY. IF I HAVE 22 PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE I DON'T WANT 16 MORE ANYWAY. BUT THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. >> Coun. Sena: I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CLARIFICATION THAT COUNCILLOR BENTON MUCH GAVE TO ME BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCILLOR GIBSON, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IN RESPECT TO THE TASKFORCE, HOW THEYCOM CAME UP WITH THIS ORIGINALLY. I AM THINKING OF OTHERS LIKE OUR SOCCER TEAM AT TIMES CAN BE AT 20. AND THEY WANT TO STAY IN THE SAME AIR BNB OR WHATEVER, A SHORTED TERM RENTAL, AND THEIR FAMILIES WANT TO CHECK IN AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING OF THE SAME APPLICATION OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS AMENDMENT. AT 10:00 THEY HAVE TO DISPERSE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF YOU COULD CLARIFY WHERE THAT CAME FROM AND THE DISCUSSION IN THE TASKFORCE. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THE NO. 20 CAME FROM THE TASKFORCE. THEY DID, IN FACT, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MS. MORRIS ADDRESS THIS. I THINK CAN YOU PROBABLY DO YOH BETTER JOB. >> MORRIS: YES. SO, THE TASKFORCE RECOMMENDED THAT OCCUPANCY BE MEASURED BUT DID NOT AGREE ON HOW TO MEASURE OCCUPANCY. AND THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT PARTY BE BE PROHIBITED. SO, THEY DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO HOW TO PROHIBIT PARTIES. SO THIS GATHERING LANGUAGE WAS INTENDED TO TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT PARTY PROHIBITION RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS IDEA OF WHAT A PARTY IS BUT YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW AMAZINGLY DIFFICULT IT IS TO DEFINE WHAT A PARTY IS. WHAT WE CAME UP TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF THE TASKFORCE WHICH WAS THE IDEA OF TREATING ALL RESIDENTS EQUALLY. IF YOU'RE SHORT TERM RESIDENT OPERATOR YOU SHOULD BE TREATED IN THE SAME WAY THAT A LONG-TERM AREN'T ARE OR OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE TREATED WHICH IS I COULD HAVE A SUPER BOWL PARTY AND I MIGHT HAVE 10 FRIENDS COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND WATCH THE SUPER BOWL. SO, SHORT TERM RENTALS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. HOWEVER I AM NOT GOING TO HOST A WEDNESDAYING IN MY BACK YARD SO SHORT TERM RENTALS SHOULD ALSO PROBABLY NOT DO THAT. SO, THE IDEA WASHINGTON D.C WITH GATHERINGS WAS TO TRY AND LIMIT SCALE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE HOME FOR SOMETHING, FOR A GATHERING OF PEOPLE. SO, THAT IS WHAT THE GATHERING LANGUAGE WAS REALLY ABOUT. SO, YES, SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A WEDDING WITH 20 OR 16, WHATEVER YOU GUYS END UP VOTING ON, PEOPLE THERE, AND THE WEDDING WOULD BE ALLOWED BUT THE SCALE OF IT IS LIMITED. SO, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET AT WITH THIS. SO, THE 20 CAME FROM INTERNAL WORK WITH COUNCIL STAFF AND PLANNING AND LEGAL STAFF, KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASKFORCE AND PUTTING THEM INTO BILL LANGUAGE. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILLOR BENTON ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 3. >> Coun. Benton: FOR A CHANGE I AM NOT GOING TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I AM GOING TO SAY DECIDE FOR YOURSELF COUNCILORS. BECAUSE, YEAH, I GET IT. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE GOT A BIG HOUSE AND I AM GOING TO ARGUE SOMEWHAT AGAINST MY OWN BILL, WHICH IS CRAZY BUT I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION WORTH HAVING. LET'S SAY WE HAVE A BIG HOUSE OF FIVE BEDROOMS. YOU HAVE ALREADY GOT 10. IF EVERYONE IS INVITING TWO PEOPLE, NOW YOU HAVE 20. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT IS KIND OF THE ARITHMETIC WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT I AM REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS GATHERINGS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF WHOM HAVE RENTED THE FACILITY AND SOME WHO MAY HAVE BEEN INVITED FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND WHAT IS OKAY. SO, I THINK IT IS WORTH EVERYBODY THINKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT BUT I DON'T SEE THESE HOUSES BEING PARTY HOUSES. I HONESTLY, IN ALL RESPECTS TO THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE TO COUNCILLOR HARRIS, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE EVENT CENTERS. THEY ARE NOT ZONED FOR THAT. THEY ARE ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY WHATEVER. ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM. DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES. I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR MY AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: LET'S SEE HOW COUNCILORS DECIDE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: NO. OF. >> Coun. Davis: YES. THAT FAILS ON A 6-2 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON YOUR BILL AS AMENDED. ONE MORE AMENDMENT. MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE. >> THIS IS COMMITTEE AMENDMENT NO. FOR, THEN. THIS WILL BE NO. FOR TO O-20-30. PAGE TWO, SECTION 13-19-FOR, DEFINITIONS, LINE 3, ADD FOLLOWING TEXT. MARKETPLACE PROVIDER A PERSON WHO FACILITATES RENTAL OF LODGING BY ADVERTISING THE LODGING BY ANY MEANS, WHETHER PHYSICAL OR ELECTRONIC, INCLUDING BY INTERNET, WEBSITE, ON LINE BOOKING PLATFORM, CAT CATALOG, RADIO BROADCAST. COLLECTING PAYMENT FROM THE VENDEE AND TRANSFERRING PAYMENT TO VENDOR. Z 2 PAGE 2 SECTION 13-19-5, GENERAL PROVISIONS LINE 13, ALL APPLICABLE, LOCAL, STATE TAXES INCLUDING LODGERS TAX, HOSPITALITY FEES, GROSS RECEIPTS TAX AND INCOME TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPERATION OF EACH STRU, UNLESS THE MARKETPLACE PROVIDER DOES THIS ON THE OPERATOR'S BEHALF. >> Coun. Davis: BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROCESS. I HAD A NOTE FROM MS. YARA THIS MAY HAVE ALREADY PASSED IN COMMITTEE. CAN I ASK MS. YARA TO CLARIFY THIS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. >> YARA. I DO HAVE THIS AS BEING PASSED AT COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY. AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WENT AHEAD AND SENT IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED. THAT AMENDMENT HAS PASSED. IT HASN'T BEEN ENROLLED IN THE BILL. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I GOT TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY. THAT WAS FREE, NO CHARGE FOR THAT. >> ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYMORE -- IF THERE IS NO OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS BILL. I REALLY WANT TO MS. MORRIS FOR THIS BECAUSE SHE WORKED HARD AND THIS HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, I THINK. I DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK BY YOURSELF AS WELL. WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES AND THANK YOU COUNCILOR GIBSON FOR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. AND MS. MORRIS. NEXT UP WE ONLY IS A FEW MORE ITEMS. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON. IF YOU NEED A BREAK WE'LL ACCOMMODATE YOU. >> Coun. Pena: O-20-36. AMENDING THE AMUSEMENTS RECREATION CULTURE ORDINANCE. I MOVE A DO PASS. I'LL JUST BE BRIEF AND JUST SAY THAT IT IS REALLY ALIGNS OUR DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP COMPOSITION, MEMBERSHIPSHIP APPOINTMENT. MEETING QUALIFICATIONS BY LAWS, CONFECTS OF INTEREST AND I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTOR SANCHEZ. SHE CAN FURTHER EXPLAIN IT BUT I THINK IT JUST REALLY ALIGNS WITH CREATING DIVERSITY AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE ALIGNED AND CONSISTENT. THERE SHE IS. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME GET US ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. TAKE YOUR SECOND FOR THE RECORD. CLEAR THE BOARD THERE. WE'LL GO TO ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR JUST WANTS TO TAKE QUESTIONS. >> I THINK COUNCILLOR PENA SUMMED IT UP. IT IS ABOUT ALIGNING ALL OF THE WORK OF THE BOARD WITHIN CULTURAL SERVICES. WE HAVE SEVEN BOARDS AND THEY HAVE ALL GROWN UP AND COME TO BEING IN DIFFERENT DECADES AND TRYING TO CREATE ALIGNMENT AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIVERSE REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE CITY BUT ALSO DIVERSITY WITHIN THE BOARD. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP TOWARDS DOING AN CLEANING UP SOME THINGS AND GETTING RID OF OUTDATED LANGUAGE. A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT GOVERNANCE AND HOUSE KEEPING. I APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR PENA'S SUPPORT ON BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME SAY I HAVE QUESTIONS AT LAST MEETING. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE WITH ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE. I TEND TO SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION. >> Coun. Pena: CAN YOU HEAR ME. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND THERE WAS SOME PERSON GETTING ON. WAS THAT INTENDED FOR US. >> Coun. Davis: FOR NEXT ITEM, YES. SPONSOR HAS CLOSED. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT UP IS R-18. JUST FOR PROCEDURAL -- >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? JUST A SECOND. >> JANICE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE. THIS IS NUISANCE ABATEMENT LEGISLATION. WE DON'T ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS OUR PRACTICE TO ALLOW INTERESTED PARTIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CONVERSATION WITH PERMISSION OF THE SPONSOR BECAUSE IT INVOLVES TAKING AND EXTRAORDINARY POWERS. WE ARE GOING TO USE THAT RULE TONIGHT IF IT IS COUNCILOR SENA'S WISH TO ALLOW THE PARTICIPANT IN. >> Coun. Sena: SUBSTANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT. I AM GOING TO MOVE THIS AND KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING BUT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. WILLIAMS DIRECTOR OF PLANNING TO ALSO COME FORWARD AND ALSO TALK ABOUT OUR GUEST TODAY AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT OUR GUESTS ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD. >> WE DISCUSSED THIS PROPERTY AT LENGTH. THIS ONE I RECALL. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE CALL. I CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PRIMARY LEAD ON THIS BUT ACCORDING TO PROPERTY OWNERSHIP RECORDS I AM NOT RECOGNIZING THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING HERE. PERHAPS THEY CAN CLARIFY THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE IF THE COUNCIL WISHES ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE PAST 30 DAYS SINCE THIS MATTER WAS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED TO ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE ADDITIONAL ATTEMPTS TO BRING ABOUT A RESOLUTION. >> Coun. Davis: CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD FOR ME WHO THE OWNER OF RECORD IS FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT? >> WILLIAMS. LAST NAME IS KOWACHEK. >> Coun. Davis: I REMEMBER THAT FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING. IS IT OKAY IF WE GO TO THE GUEST AND SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ARE RELATED TO THE PROPERTY. IS THAT YOU, MA'AM IN THE WHITE SHIRT. >> I COULD CHANGE THE LAST NAME IF YOU WANT ME TO GO OUT AND CHANGE IT. >> Coun. Davis: THAT IS OKAY. CASE YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY? >> I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS. IT IS ME AND MY MOM LUCY, BEHIND ME. >> Coun. Davis: YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING IN THIS LEGISLATION. >> HI. I AM LUCY, PRIMARY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. AND, THE LAST MEETING THAT I HAD IT WAS REGARDING THAT THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND I BECAUSE THEY NEVER SENT ME LETTERS. THEY JUST POSTINGS ON THE FENCE I GUESS. I NEVER GOT ANY KIND OF LETTERS IN THE MALE. BUT, THEY GAVE ME 50 DAYS TO WORK ON THE RESOLUTION OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO WITH THE HOUSE. WHICH I HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY AT AND I HAVE OBTAINED A REALTOR WHO I SIGNED A PURCHASE AGREEMENT TODAY. AND, SHE IS GOING TO BUY THE HOUSE. SHE IS INTERESTED IN BUYING THE HOUSE AND FIXING IT UP. YEAH, SO I ALREADY SIGNED THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE SALE BY THE ENDS OF THE WEEK, I AM HOPING. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR TURN IT BACK TO YOU. I WANT TO ASK ADMINISTRATION IF THEY HAVE ANY PROGRESS. IT IS YOUR LEGISLATION. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> Coun. Sena: I AM JUST URGING YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR ATTENDING TODAY'S MEETING. I WOULD LIKE MR. WILLIAMS TO GIVE AN UPDATE AND, YOU KNOW, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS THAT THE REALTOR WOULD ACTUALLY BE HERE TODAY AT THE MEETING TO CONFIRM THAT THIS AGREEMENT WAS GOING THROUGH. MR. WILLIAMS COULD YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDE YOUR END OF THE UPDATES? >> WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. SO, SINCE THIS MATTER WAS DEFERRED LAST MONTH, THERE HAVE BEEN HALF A DOZEN ATTEMPTS BY CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE KOWALCHEKS. ONLY TWO WERE SUCCESSFUL ONE WAS TELEPHONE AND THE OTHER WAS A SITE VISIT. SINCE THIS SUMMER SINCE BEGINNING OF JUNE, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN OUT TO THE SITE AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES. RECENTLY THEY HAD TO PERFORM BOARD UP AND CLEAN-UP ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS ALSO OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FAMILY LIVES NEARBY THIS SUBJECT SITE AND WE HAVE LEARNED THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS WITH THAT HOME. WE ARE A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH INVOLVEMENT OF THE FAMILY. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE TO THIS COUNCIL AND SUBCOMMITTEES COMPLIANCE IS ALWAYS THE CITY'S ULTIMATE GOAL. IF WE HAVE A VALID PURCHASE AGREEMENT THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN REVIEWING THAT AND USING THAT AS DEMONSTRATION OF GOOD FAITH. IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD TO SOMEONE WITH THE MEANS AND ABILITY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS AND REPURPOSE THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE THE CITY'S PREFERENCE. HOWEVER, THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS BY BOTH THE EMERGENCY SERVICE REQUEST, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS AT THE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN THERE ARE 12,255-DOLLARS IN OUTSTANDING LIENS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. I STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: IF I COULD ASK YOU BRAVELY AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO COUNCILOR S ENA AND OTHERS. IF YOU'LL TAKE YOURSELF OFF MUTE SINCE THIS IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT. CAN YOU TELL US THE NAME OF THE PERSON YOU SIGNED THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. >> YES, HER NAME IS NANCY KENNEDY. AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FAX OVER A PURCHASE AGREEMENT TO CHRIS TODAY WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LIEN ON MY PROPERTY. ALSO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN THE ONE CALLING THE POLICE TO TO THE RESIDENCE BECAUSE AT NIGHT THERE IS PEOPLE FROM THE STREET THAT COME AND I HAVE NOTICED THEM TRYING TO GET IN THE HOUSE AND I HAVE CALLED APD TO LET THEM KNOW THERE IS SOMEBODY THERE YOU KNOW. IT IS NOT ME OR MY FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET INTO THAT HOUSE. IT IS JUST SOMEBODY OFF THE STREET. I AM THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR CALLING APD. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE BACK WITH YOU AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCILOR PENA WITH A QUESTION. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. IF YOU DON'T MIND I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO COUNCILLOR PENA. I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO HER. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MS. KOWALCHEK. ARE YOU WANTING TO SELL YOUR HOUSE? OR ARE YOU JUST KIND OF, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, YOU CAN TELL ME TO BE QUIET BUT IS IT BECAUSE THE DEBT THAT HAS INCURRED. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ABOUT I HAVE LOST MY SON. MY SON PASSED AWAY IN 2015 AND I WENT THROUGH SEVERE DEPRESSION AND I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF COUNSELING AND STUFF AND I WOULD JUST -- I JUST WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MANY MEMORYS THERE. MY SON WAS SHOT NEXT DOOR AND IT IS JUST TOO MANY BAD MEMORIES SO I WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE. IT IS JUST THAT I HAVE BEEN -- THERE HAS BEEN A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE INTEREST AND WE JUST HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR AND FINALLY NANCY AND I CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE BOTH FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. SO I HAVE DECIDED TO SELL THE HOUSE. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU KNOW I HAVE RESERVATIONS ALWAYS ABOUT CONDEMNATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANTED TO SELL YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE AGAIN I ALWAYS HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT CONDEMNATION AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A NEWS ARTICLE ON ONE OF THE STATIONS THIS WEEKEND SOMEBODY IN ESPANOLA WAS GOING THROUGH A SITUATION AND ACTUALLY COMMUNITY GOT TOGETHER AND GOT THEM BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. SO, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO -- I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE SHE WANTED TO SELL HER HOME. >> Coun. Davis: NO OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILORS, FLOOR IS YOURS. OF. >> Coun. Sena: I APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR PENA RAISING THAT ISSUE. YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT PIECE WITH US, BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE TO. I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING JUST THAT PIECE AND, YOU KNOW, BEING VULNERABLE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. I WANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, THAT I REALLY DO HOPE THAT YOU GET IN TOUCH WITH DIRECTOR WILLIAMS, WITH PLANNING AND ZONING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR PUSH AND DESIRE THROUGH THIS AND LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND MY DISCUSSION ON THIS PROPERTY IS THAT YOU BE IN CONTACT AND REACH OUT TO PLANNING AND ZONING. I AM GOING TO MOVE THIS FOR DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU SHARE WITH DIRECTOR WILLIAMS THAT AGREEMENT AND JUST SO THAT WE SEE THAT THERE IS MOVEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE AGAIN WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE A PROPERTY BE CONDEMNED AND DEMOLISHED. IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO DIRECTOR WILLIAMS OR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SHARE WITH US THAT. I AM GOING TO MOVE DEFERRAL OF THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SO YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS TO PRODUCE THAT AGREEMENT. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: CLEAR THE BOARD ON THAT ITEM. I DON'T BELIEVE EITHER ONE OF YOU HAD ANYTHING, JUST SECONDING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MS. WILLIAMS ANY COMMENT? COUNCILOR BENTON? >> Coun. Benton: JUST QUICKLY. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT RESPONSIBILITY INCLUDES RESPONDING TO MANY EFFORTS OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THE PART OF OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO NOTE AND I APPRECIATE YOU ARE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND I HOPE THAT AGREEMENT GETS HERE QUICKLY BUT IT WOULD NOT BE OUT OF NORMAL ORDER FOR THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD AND PASS CONDEMNATION, NUISANCE ABATEMENT LEGISLATION SO THAT THIS WOULD PROCEED EVEN IF YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. I THINK COUNCIL OR IS GIVING ITS ONE MORE SHOT. WE CAN'T ALLOW THOSE CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS THERE AS WELL. SO, THANK YOU. I SEE COUNCILOR HARRIS AND PENA JUMPED IN WITH ME. WE'LL GO BACK FOR COMMENT. >> Coun. Harris: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MORTGAGE ON THIS PROPERTY. IF THERE IS 50,000-DOLLAR MORTGAGE, THEN THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY TO GET THESE CENTERED IS TO KNOCK THEM DOWN AND THAT WAY YOUR ACTUALLY ABLE TO CLEAR THE LOT. MORTGAGE COMPANY OR THE BANK HAS TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER IT HAS BUT I JUST WITNESS TO MAKE SURE THE SALE IS GOING TO BE A MONEY SALE AND IT IS GOING TO BE (INAUDIBLE). IT NEEDS TO BE REAL MONEY. >> Coun. Davis: IF YOU WOULD JUST TAKE THAT NOTE, IF YOU COULD GET THAT TO US BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. JUST BRIEFLY. THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE PERSON ON THE PHONE. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I AM SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT YOU. SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE DOING THESE THINGS, THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY I HAVE MY RESERVATIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOME FAMILY ARES FACING SOME OF THE UNDERLYING ISSUES WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT AND THEY HAVE BARRIERS TO GETTING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GET TO IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE MET. SO, I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDING SOME MONEY FOR, TO HELP PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR HOMES SO I JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE IMPLEMENT THAT WE TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE NEIGHBORS. I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THEIR HOUSE IS FALLING INTO DISREPAIR BUT WHEN WE HAVE FAMILIES AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FAMILY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW. BUT FAMILIES ARE FACING THESE UNDERLYING ISSUE, ALL WE DO BY DOING THESE THINGS IS WE FURTHER CREATE HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY SO, AGAIN, M S. KOWALCHEK I AM NOT REFERRING TO YOU BUT I KNOW IT IS TOUGH OUT THERE. YOU TAKE CARE. >> Coun. Davis: I AM SORRY. WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU HERE BUT COUNCILORS ARE GOING TO VOTE BRIEFLY AND WE'LL GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY IN TWO WEEKS ONCE WE HAVE ALL THAT PAPERWORK FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE PROGRESS. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE DEFERRAL UNTIL NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 19. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. TO THE DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: SEE THAT MATTER AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS ON THE 19TH. COUNCILOR HARRIS, R-67. >> Coun. Harris: MOVE DO PASS ON R-67 RENAMING FOUR HILLS PARK. I ALSO HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL SECRETARY THAT FOR SECOND THAT. >> Coun. Harris: THERE IT IS. OKAY. ON PAGE 1, LINE 3, STRIKE THE LANGUAGE REPLACE WITH ED BARSIS. >> Coun. Davis: WE LOST CONNECTION AND WE HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. ARE YOU STILL WITH US. WE LOST COUNCILOR HARRIS. SO, MAYBE WE'LL TABLE THIS ONE FOR JUST A SECOND. WE'LL SKIP THIS ONE FOR THE MOMENT. SIT ON THAT MOTION. WE DIDN'T GET STARTED ON DISCUSSION. WE'LL SENIORITY NOT ON THE RECORD YET CONSIDER IT NOT ON E RECORD YET. >> THIS IS PROHIBITING POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MILITARY SURPLUS. TRYING TO BUY SOMETIME HERE FOR THE SPONSORS TO GET READY. R-95. >> Coun. Pena: YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE ON. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: WE LOST YOU AND MOVED ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. WE ARE ON ITEM H. >> Coun. Harris: THAT IS FINE. >> Councilor Bassan: I MOVE R-95. PROHIBITING POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM APPLYING FOR OR RECEIVING CERTAIN SURPLUS MILITARY EQUIPMENT FOR CIVILIAN LAW ENFORCEMENTS USE. MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> REINTRODUCE DEPUTY CHIEF SMATHERS. SO, TO THE SPONSOR, I DON'T SEE QUESTIONS. TO THE SPONSORS TO DISCUSS AND YOU HAVE YOUR EXPERT HERE IF NEEDED. >> Councilor Bassan: I'LL BE SHORT AND DEFER TO OTHERS. THIS IS FINDING THAT MIDDLE GROUND. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PASS THE DEMILITARYIZATION BILL A WHILE BACK BUT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A LIMITED LANGUAGE SO THAT IF ANYTHING IS ON DIFFERENT CONTROLLED OR PROHIBITED LISTS OFF OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ORDERS THEN THESE CANNOT BE ACQUIRED THROUGH APD. I THINK AGAIN THIS IS FINDING THAT MIDDLE GROUNDS WHERE WE GET MILITARY EQUIPMENT OR SUPPLIES WITHOUT BEING (INAUDIBLE). I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND NOW PASS IT ONTO OTHER COUNCILORS. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILLOR PENA BECAUSE SHE DID BACKGROUND ON THIS. OUR LAST BILL WHICH DIDN'T PASS FOR CERTAIN REASONS THAT SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ON THE OTHER LIST WAS -- AFTER TALKING WITH SOME OF THE POLICE, WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT WE STILL PROBABLY COULD USE AND SO THIS IS, AS COUNCILOR MENTIONED, THIS IS A MIDDLE GROUNDS. IT IS HARD ALWAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIE SENTING SIDES AND WE WALKED AWAY FROM THAT OTHER BILL WITH ALL OF US FEELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WISHED WE COULD HAVE PASSED IT BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN IT THAT JUST DIDN'T SIT AND SO I THINK THIS IS THAT MIDDLE GROUNDS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE COMMUNITY. I DO WANT TO GIVE COUNCILOR PENA RECOGNITION FOR REALLY STEPPING IN AND BEING THE PERSON THAT KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS BILL AND THEN TACKED WITH US ABOUT IT AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Pena: I'LL DID HE EVER TO COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE SPONSORS, IN REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ONE AND LAST ONE THAT WE INTRODUCED. SPECIFICALLY, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE (INAUDIBLE). I WAS CURIOUS, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE ITEMS THEY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION OR SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS MADE JUST SO THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS LEGISLATION AND THE ONE THAT (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Pena: CAN I TAKE A STAB AT THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME. THERE WAS CLOTHING, A STORAGE CONTAINER. THERE WAS OFFICE SUPPLIES. THERE WAS OFFICE EQUIPMENT. THERE WAS NONMILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY UTILIZE AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS I MEAN, I THINK THE LAST BILL, I COULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT DIDN'T REALLY -- IT MADE A BOLD STATEMENT BUT TOOK AWAY APD'S ABILITY TO ACQUIRE SOME OTHER NECESSARY EQUIPMENT. >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING ELSE? >> Coun. Sena: FOR ME IN LAYING OUT I ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT IS NOT IN THIS LIST, WHAT ELSE CAN THEY NOT PARTICIPATE IN OR WHAT CAN THEY AR- PARTICIPATE IN. IT HAS A RECOMMENDED LIST AND FOR ME I STILL AM SUPPORTIVE OF SORT OF LAYING IT OUT CLEARLY THAT WHATEVER WAS ON THE BATTLE FIELD SHOULDN'T BE UTILIZED WITHIN APD OR ALBUQUERQUE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CHIP AWAY AT IT ONE LIST AT A TIME WHERE I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE BUT AGAIN I HAVE A LOT OF HESITATIONS WHEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED LIST AND IT IS NOT A CLEAR OUTLINE OF WHAT WE SAY YES AND NO TO. I DON'T KNOW BASED OFF OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS JUST CLOTHING AND OFFICE MATERIALS MAYBE, BUT, JUST, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOTS OF RESERVATIONS WHEN WE HAVE LISTS THAT ONLY -- >> NOT MAKE THEM THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS AGAINST THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK AT THE ORIGINAL BILL, THE PEOPLE, COUNCILORS THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT WAS SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, MADE TO LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUYS, I GUESS. SO, THAT IS WHY I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE A LOOK AT FIRST BILL, BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT THIS BILL AS SORT OF A MIDDLE GROUND OF WHAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH AS A COMMUNITY. AND IN THE FUTURE, BUT EQUIPMENT IS THAT MILITARY GRADE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICERS PROBABLY NEED, LIKE, LAUNCHERS AND THINGS THAT ARE WAR RELATED. WE DO HAVE A MILITARY FOR THAT. BUT THERE ARE -- THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE AND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT ALL BACK, I BEST. AFTER TALKING WITH THE POLICE WE CAME TO FIND THERE IS QUITE A BIT -- WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING SINCE 2015 SO HERE IT IS FIVE YEARS LATER AND WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. THAT IS WHY I SAY THE DEVIL IS SOMETIMES IN THE DETAILS. THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I'LL BE QUICK. I THINK THESE BILLS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. THEY ARE LIMITING. ONE IS LIMITING AND ONE IS COMPLETELY ZEROING OUT ANY POSSIBILITY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT NOT ALL MILITARY EQUIPMENT EQUALS WARFARE EQUIPMENT. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE AND THAT IS WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ISING ABOUT TO FIND THAT COMPROMISE THAT PROTECTS EVERYBODY AND STILL HAVE GUARDIANS ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS BACK ON ITEM G. COUNCILOR HARRIS WE NEVER GOT THAT ON THE RECORD. I'LL ASK YOU TO START OVER. CAN YOU GET THE AMENDMENT UP. >> Coun. Davis: WE WILL HAVE IT. INTRODUCE THE BILL. >> Coun. Harris: SURE. I MOVE DO PASS OF R-67, RENAMING FOUR HILLS PARK. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ON THE SCREEN IS AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Coun. Harris: MOVE AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Coun. Harris: SO, LET ME FIRST TALK ABOUT YOU RECEIVED A COUPLE OF EMAILS, ONE FROM SOMEONE WHO ONLY LIVED IN FOUR HILLS VILLAGE FOR THREE YEARS. ANOTHER 1 IS SOMEONE WHO JUST LITERALLY DOESN'T LIKE ANYTHING I DO. IF I PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT I SUGGESTED SUN RISES IN THE EAST SHE WOULD OPPOSE IT. SO, MOST OF THESE ARE JUST SORT OF NOT REALLY SERIOUS. LET ME SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MR. BARSIS. ED, IF YOU LOOK UP SOMETHING AND (INAUDIBLE). YOU WILL SEE JUSTICE IN BARSIS LAW. THAT IS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN PARALLEL AND (INAUDIBLE). (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: I AM GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU. WE ARE GETTING BACKGROUND NOISE. TALK INTO THE SPEAKER. >> HE IS A VETERAN SERVED IN VIETNAM WAR, HIGHLY CLASSIFIED ASSIGNMENTS. SON OF RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS AND SPOKE FLUENT RUSSIAN AND NEGOTIATED WITH PETE DOMENICI ON REDUCTION MUCH NUCLEAR ARMS. HE ALSO WAS A DIRECTOR AND PRESIDENT OF THE FOUR HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR A WHILE AND REALLY DID WORK HARDER THAN ANYBODY TO ACTUALLY GET THIS PARK BUILT. THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE PARK WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION -- (INAUDIBLE) ANY TIME YOU WANT TO INSTITUTE ANY KIND OF CHANGE, PEOPLE OBJECT. WE HAVE TO PUT UP A PARK THAT -- A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DIDN'T HAVE A PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CONTROVERSIAL AT THE TIME. (INAUDIBLE) ALSO THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO SUGGESTED THAT ED WOULD HAVE WANTED THIS. I TALKED TO HIS LONG-TERM PARTNER BEFORE I SUGGESTED THIS AND SHE SAID HE WOULD HAVE WANT THERE HAD. SARAH IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TONIGHT BUT SHE IS VERY ILL AND COULDN'T. THERE WAS A PROCESS WHERE THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE GENERAL MEETING LAST JANUARY, I BELIEVE, AND THEN ED -- THE MICKELSON FAMILY WHERE HIS DAUGHTER SAID MR. MICKELSON WOULDN'T WANT HIS NAME THERE. WE TOOK HIS NAME OFF BUT THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP HAD VOTED ON PUTTING MR. BARSIS'S NAME ON. IT WENT TO THE BOARD OF THE FOUR HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY DIDN'T VOTE BUT GENERALLY ACCEPTED THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH MR. BARSIS. FOR ALL THOSE REASONS I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I SEE DIRECTOR SIMON IS AVAILABLE IF ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO COMMENT. >> SIMONS: IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM. IN GENERAL DID NOT HAVE HONOR OR PRIVILEGE OF MEETING M R. BARSIS. WE SUPPORT NAMING MOST PARKS FOR GEOGRAPHIC THEMES INSTEAD OF FOR INDIVIDUALS BUT APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR HARRIS BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND HAVE NO OBJECTION. >> Coun. Davis: PUT THAT AMENDMENT BACK UP. WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT AND SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILLOR HARRIS TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Harris: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. AND THAT IS ALSO MY CLOSE ON THE BILL. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE FOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES. >> Coun. Davis: I KNOW YOU CLOSED BUT WANT TO BE SURE NO OTHER COMMENTS. GOING ONCE, TWICE. THAT IS THE CLOSE. WILL YOU DO IT AGAIN PLEASE? >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASS ON 8-1 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: THAT LEGISLATION PASSES. COUNCILOR SENA, PRESENT OUR LAST PIECE OF LENGTHS, R-97. MR. RAEL WE ARE COME TO YOU FOR QUICK INTRO. >> Coun. Sena: AMENDING THE ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM FOR THE CITY AVIATION DEPARTMENT BIOLOGY TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM EXISTING PROJECTS, CLOSING PROJECTS APPROVING NEW PROJECTS AND ACCEPTING FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS. MOVE A DO PASS. >> Coun. Davis: I SECOND THAT LEGISLATION AND I SEE DIRECTOR ALLEN IS HERE. SAVING MR. RAEL FROM HAVING TO JOAN US. Y GIVE US A QUICK BIT ABOUT THEY . P BILL. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS HAPPENING AT THE SUNPORT AND DOUBLE EAGLE II RIGHT NOW. WE ALSO, THIS YEAR, THE FAA RECEIVED ADDITIONAL NEW FUNDING THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THROUGH THE CARES ACT SOY WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. ONE WAS FOR A ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE GRANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE OTHERWISE. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT GRANT THIS YEAR. ADDITIONALLY THERE WERE ABLE TO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOME OF THE OTHER AIRFIELD PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON AT SUNPORT. SO, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE FAA FOR THOSE. WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY BRING IN NEW CAR GO CARRIER IN FOR THE SUNPORT AND SO WE WILL NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL. AND, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT BUILDING BUILT IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN COME TO THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THOSE WERE THE LARGEST PIECES OF CHANGE OTHERWISE, WE MOSTLY JUST MOVED MONEY CLOSED PROJECTS OUT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT. CARGO PROJECT IS QUITE LARGE COSTING 30 MILLION. WE WERE CLOSING OLD PROJECTS AND REALLOCATING FUNDS TO THAT PROJECT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION? >> Coun. Borrego: YES. THANK YOU. SO, IN READING THE BILL AND LOOKING AT THE LIST, DIRECTOR, THERE IS NOT ANY CURRENT FUNDING FOR DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT, AM I CORRECT? >> NOT ANY CURRENT FUNDING. >> ON THE REALLOCATION LIST. >> THAT DID ALLOW US TO COMPLETE A FENCING PROJECT AT DOUBLE EAGLE II. BUT THAT IS THE LARGEST PROJECT FROM DOUBLE EAGLE II WE HAVE ON THIS LIST. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DIRECTOR TAKES FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE ON THE WAITING ROOM ALL NIGHT. >> SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: CONGRATULATION S. HOUSE KEEPING NOTES WE DID CANCEL -- CHAIRS DID CANCEL A COUPLE OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS THIS MONTH BUT COUNCILLOR BENTON HAS A NUMBER OF BUDGET HEARINGS STILL COMING. ALTHOUGH OUR AGENDA AT THE MOMENT FOR NEXT MEETING IS LOOKING LIGHT, I AM INFORMED WE WILL HAVE THE FIRST READ OUT FOR FINAL BUDGET. KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT LONG MEETINGS AND A LOT OF WORK ON THE BUDGET. IF YOU HAVE NEW ADMINISTRATION OR Q AND A, GETS THOSE TO THE STAFF AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I'LL ASK MR. PADILLA AND MAYOR'S OFFICE IF YOU OTHER THINGS FOR THE COUNCIL TO HELP US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE GET THOSE DOWN SO WE CAN SCHEDULE THEM, TRYING TO AVOID LAST MINUTES INTRODUCTIONS SO WE CAN BE ON TOP OF BUDGET. I AM ASKING ALL OF US TO DO THAT, INCLUDING MYSELF. WORK WITH YOUR STAFF, HELP US DO THAT AND MAKE THE STAFF'S LIVES EASIER, SO THEY WILL MAKE OUR EASY TOO. WE ARE DONE AT 7:15 WHICH IS A NEW RECORD FOR US. THANK YOU ALL, SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF