>> JUNE 24, 25. WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THEM? >> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] >> IN ADDITION, WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER JOINING US. WELCOME. AS ALWAYS, WELCOME TO JOIN. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, IT WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING AND SEEING NO OBJECTION. FOR CHAIR COMMENT TODAY, WE ARE BASICALLY AT THE 18 MONTH PART OF THE TERM AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE A MISSION THAT FOCUSES ON THE NEED TO CREATE A SAFE SPACE FOR THE CITY AND OUR CHILDREN CAN RIDE SAFELY ON THE BUSES AND WE NOTED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING OR HAVE BUSINESSES NOW HAVE THE NEED FOR PRIVATE SECURITY. WE HAVE THE PLAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE A COMMON THREAD ACROSS ALL PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW IN OUR CITY. SPD STAFFING. WE HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD. I SAID TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GIVE US A YEAR. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TRANSFER OR GIVE RETIRE, GIVE US ONE YEAR. WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE , WE HAVE ARC RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION BILLS AND LATERAL RECRUITMENT BILLS COMING THROUGH. THROUGH SELECT LABOR COMMITTEE, WE HAVE OUR SPA AGREEMENT AND I WOULD ARGUE MORE IMPORTANTLY HAS BEEN A LEADERSHIP WITH THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE IN THIS AREA. IT'S ABOUT SHOWING UP AT ROLL CALLS . IT'S ABOUT BEING THERE AND ENGAGING. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY WITH THOSE WITH SPD. I AM CHEERLEADING FOR SOME OF US ARE CHEERLEADING AND IT'S NOT ABOUT CHEERLEADING, BUT IT'S ABOUT SUPPORTING AND BEING THERE AND SHOWING LEADERSHIP. PILLAR TWO IS ORDINANCES. HAVING A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND. AFTER HOURS ESTABLISHMENT BILL AND WE HAVE UPDATED ORDINANCES THROUGH CROWD MANAGEMENT AND OUR CHIEF OF POLICE OF INVESTIGATION ORDINANCE HAS TO BE UPDATED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CHRONIC NUISANCE PROPERTY BILL AND LOOKING TO UPDATE THAT. VACANT BUILDINGS AND LOTS . WE PASSED OUR NUMBER ONE BILL AND THAT BY ACCIDENT WAS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUILDING ABATEMENT. FROM JUNE TO JUNE, WE DEMOLISHED 41 BUILDINGS THAT WERE PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND MADE THEM SAFER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES FOR A TOTAL OF 75 BUILDINGS ABATED. THE ROUTE THE WHOLE OF 2024 AND 2025, NUMBERS ARE 67 AND 37 FOR A TOTAL OF 104 BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SAFER THE COMMUNITIES EITHER BEING DEMOLISHED OR REMODELED TO ONE DEGREE OR ANOTHER. WE PASSED THE FIRE CODE IN SUPPORT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. TODAY, WE HAVE OUR GRAFFITI BILL AND OTHER EFFORTS ON GRAFFITI HERE IN THE COUNCIL AND ELSEWHERE. WE HAVE ALSO DONE THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JACKSON AND GRAFFITI TEAM ON THE EXECUTIVE SIDE AND THE EFFORTS ON THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE NEED THIS TO BE A COMPLETE ALL HANDS EFFORT. WE DID HAVE OUR EMS LEVY THAT WE PASSED LAST TIME AND OUR SUPPORT FOR CARE AND ALSO GROUPS LIKE LEAD AND PART OF THAT INTERFACE BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH, BECAUSE AS I SAID MANY TIMES, WE CANNOT SUCCEED AT PUBLIC SAFETY IF WE DON'T ALSO SUCCEED IN PUBLIC HEALTH. TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW, THE 22nd OF JULY WILL BE KING COUNTY DAY AND WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT COMING UP. SEPARATE FROM THE PLAN AND KIND OF UNDERLYING EVERYTHING IS THE IDEA OF TECHNOLOGY PARTICULARLY WITH OUR STAFFING CHALLENGES . OUR BILLS INCLUDED THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER AND CCTV AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER A LPR AND JUST RECENTLY LAST TIME START CHASING. THESE BILLS ARE M■AKING A DIFFERENCE AND YOU WILL FIND DURING THE COURSE OF DELAY BETWEEN NOW AND THE RECESS HOW THESE BILLS AND SYSTEM ARE COMING ONLINE AND ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR EFFORTS TO CREATE A SAFER CITY. OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED IN THE CONSENT DECREE RESOLUTION BEFORE GOING TO THAT I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD TECHNOLOGY PIECES THAT WERE DONE THROUGH THE PARKS AND PUBLIC UTILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR SAKA AND TAKE A STAND ON THE DEFINED PLEDGE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING THE BILLS UP. WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH EXECUTIVE. IT IS HAPPENING . THIS IS THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE. WE HAVE THE TRANSITION IN BRIDGE WE HAVE TO GO FROM OUR POSTURE OF YESTERDAY , TODAY AND TOMORROW. I MENTIONED THANKING MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING ON THE JUDICIAL SIDE AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE. THIS HAS BEEN A TEAM EFFORT. COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HAVING A VICE CHAIR WHO IS ON TOP OF PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES TO INCLUDE TRANSIT SAFETY, BUT ALSO COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS I COME THROUGH. IT IS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE WORKING HARD. IN DISTRICT 4, THERE IS A LOT OF CHALLENGES. I DID WANT TO THANK AND THE CLOSED CHAIRS COMMENT , COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER EFFORTS . IT WAS A KEY PIECE OF LEGISLATION. STAY OUT OF AREA PROSTITUTION. HER SUPPORT FOR ALL THE BILLS AND ALL BUT ONE VOTED FOR IN TERMS OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE VERY MINDFUL AND RELEVANT AMENDMENTS OFTENTIMES, SO I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER MOORE FOR HER EFFORTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY, PARTICULARLY UP NORTH WITH THE NORTH PRECINCT, BUT THE WHOLE OF SEATTLE. WITH THAT SAID WITH TODAY'S CHAIR COMMENT, WE WILL OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE. CLICK? HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP TODAY? >> WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND ATE REMOTE. >> WE WILL START WITH IN PERSON. TWO MINUTES. >> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE MODERATED IN THE FOLLOWING MATTER IT IS UP TO 60 MINUTES AND SPEAKERS ARE CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED. THEY WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN THEY ARE WITHIN 10 SECONDS OF THEIR TIME. ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS OPEN AND WE BEGIN WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THE FIRST IN SPIRIT PERSON SPEAKER IS AARON GOODMAN. >> GOOD MORNING. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA AND I THINK THIS IS MY SECOND MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE IN A ROW AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING. THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING IN THE COMMITTEE AND I JUST WANT TO BE THANKFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO SOME REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES. ORDINANCE THAT IS ON THE BOARD AND AS I SPOKE TO YOU AND LAST WEEK IN A LETTER, WE DEAL WITH ILLEGALLY OPERATED NIGHTCLUBS AND A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY THAT IS IMPACTFUL FROM THERE IS NOT HAPPENING INSIDE THE CLUB. IT IS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE. WHILE HE DID HAVE A HOMICIDE IN ONE OF OUR CLUBS, WE HAVE HAD OVER 500 SHOTS FIRED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AROUND CLUBS. 50 SHOTS IN FRONT OF SUPERNOVA . THEY ARE NOT INSIDE THE CLUB. IT SHOWS THE SIGNIFICANT PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE SAFETY ISSUES . IT IS OUTSIDE OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS. WHAT I DID NOT SHARE WITH YOU AT THE TIME WAS THE IMPACTS TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTY BUSINESSES. FOLKS HANGING OUT IN THEIR PROPERTY AND LEAVING GARBAGE, GRAFFITI AND ALL OF THAT. STRONGLY SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF THE BILL TO SUPPORT THE NIGHTLIFE AND I ALSO COULDN'T STAND UP HERE AND NOT PLUG THE GRAFFITI BILL, WHICH IS A MAJOR ISSUE IN SOTO, AS WELL. ALSO, ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CONFIRMING A PERMANENT CHIEF IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVING POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU GUYS AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> A 50,000 FEET, BUT I'M SPEAKING FROM STREET LEVEL AND WE STILL HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS LESS THAN 10 DETECTIVES IN SEATTLE RIGHT NOW. ASSAULTS ARE MUCH IGNORED . PHYSICAL ASSAULTS AND SEXUAL ASSAULTS. I KNOW AT ONE TIME IT REQUIRED A MINOR BEFORE SOMETHING WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN IDEA OF WHEN POLICE SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE RESTORED TO THE MASSES. A MEMBER OF THE MASSES AND THEY HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN OR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THEN MANY WARS. GOVERNMENTS HAVE PUT TOGETHER COUNTRIES AND SEATTLE IS STILL WAITING. I WILL BE WAITING FOREVER. WE COULD USE SOME SPECIAL SQUADS BACK AND HANDLE THINGS LIKE BURGLARY , SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THESE MINOR THINGS WHERE YOU ARE USUALLY DEALING WITH THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT HELPS WHEN YOU HAVE THE SQUADS WHO KNOW THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THEY KNOW THE USUAL SUSPECTS WHEN THEY HAD A 90% CHANCE OF PEOPLE . IT MAKES THE INVESTIGATION EASIER. SEATTLE HAS ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS IN CERTAIN ZONES OF THE CITY AND WE NEVER WERE COMPLETELY, BUT SEATTLE HAS SO MUCH DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND I THINK WE CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER AND STILL BE A MAJOR LEAGUE CITY. I REALLY HOPE THE CHIEF WILL HAVE SOME SELF-CORRECTING MECHANISMS AND YOU COULD CALL THE CHIEF'S OFFICE AND GET HELP. >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS HOWARD GAIL. PRESS STAR SIX WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT. YOU HAVE BEEN UNNEEDED. >> GOOD MORNING. TODAY, YOU WILL CONSIDER THE CONFIRMATION OF BARNES AS CHIEF POLICE. IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS HE STATED THAT THE SPD QUOTE, HOLDS ITSELF ACCOUNTABLE THROUGH MANY SYSTEMS OF CRITICAL SELF-ANALYSIS SUCH AS THE INVESTIGATION TEAM, REVIEW BOARD AND ONGOING AMENDMENT ANALYZING PERFORMANCE TO ACHIEVE THE OUTCOMES . THREE MONTHS AGO, WE WITNESSED A VERB IN A WEST SEATTLE POLICE PRECINCT , THE 14th SIMILAR KILLING IN LESS THAN 14 YEARS OF A PERSON IN CRISIS WITH AN EDGE OR NO WEAPON IN THE HAND AND EVERY ONE OF THESE CASES, ALL OF SEATTLE'S ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS ACCEPTED THESE KILLINGS TO BECOME A LAWFUL AND PROPER. PLEASE RESOLVE THE INSTANCE WITHOUT KILLING THE PERSON IN CRISIS. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE STATEMENT THAT PROTEST QUOTE, THINKING IN THIS REGARD. CHIEF BARNES WAS PUBLICLY WHILE HE HAS HIS OFFICERS WHEN WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY IN LOS ANGELES AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FEDERAL AGENTS ARE EGREGIOUSLY VIOLATING PEOPLE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT AND WASHINGTON STATE CONSTITUTIONS PROVIDING PROTECTIONS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURES AND THE NEED FOR WARRANT OR PROBABLE CAUSE IN TARGETING INDIVIDUALS. CHIEF BARNES, SPD OFFICERS PROTECTING PROPERTY HAVE THEM ACTIVELY PROTECT PEOPLE AGAINST THE FAR GREATER CRIMES AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS, ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE AND DENIAL OF RIGHTS AND DUE PROCESS. OFFICERS DEMAND THE IDENTITY OF FEDERAL AGENTS OR EVIDENCE OF PROBABLE CAUSE , RECORD THE INTERACTIONS AND OBTAIN THE NAMES OF PEOPLE SUBJECT TO THE ABUSES. WE DO NOT NEED PERFORMATIVE STATEMENTS FROM THE POLICE CHIEF WHILE THEORETICALLY BEING ARRESTED BY FEDERAL AGENTS BUT WE NEED THE POLICE CHIEF TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE OFFICERS TO ACTIVELY PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE IN SEATTLE, SO THEY DO NOT GET ILLEGALLY SEIZED AND DISAPPEAR THEMSELVES. >> THANK YOU. >> MIXED UP, ALICE LOCKHART. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE. HER NAME IS ALICE LOCKHART AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME. I'M RIGHT THERE IN THE SUB ZONE AND BY UNFORTUNATE I MEAN THE CAMERAS AND NOT THE PROSECUTE WHO HAS NEVER DONE ME ANY HARM. MOVING ON TO COUNSEL BILL 12100 SIX , YES, IT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE UNEQUALLY ENFORCED , THEREFORE ON A MORAL BASIS I OBJECT TO THAT, BUT WHAT I REALLY EXPECT AND WHAT I EXPECT WILL RESONATE EQUALLY WITH THE COUNSEL IS THAT THE BILL WILL COST THE CITY A TON OF MONEY. IT IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. CLAIM AGAINST PER THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SPD AND CITY OF SEATTLE IN GENERAL CONTINUE TO RISE. I ORGANIZE A SOLIDARITY BUDGET AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER BUDGET THAT HAS TO HAVE MORE MONEY FOR JUDGMENT AND CLAIM, BUT THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE UNEQUALLY ENFORCED AND IT WILL RESULT . IN THE MEANTIME, IT IS EXTREMELY VAGUE TERMS THAT WILL MAKE PROSECUTIONS UNDER IT ALSO EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND TIME-CONSUMING. WE DON'T NEED IT. WE DON'T WANT IT. PLEASE DON'T DO IT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON UP IS HIGHTOWER. >> I AM SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO THE CONFIRMATION HEARING FOR SPD CHIEF AND I AM THE SISTER OF WHO WAS MURDERED BY SEATTLE POLICE WHILE EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE DEADLY CONSEQUENCES OF SPD ABUSING AND CHOOSING TO ESCALATE INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. ALONG WITH CONVINCING POLICE WITH POLICY TOWARDS COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR THEIR CONSTITUTIONALLY ASK PROTECTED FREE SPEECH AND OTHER INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC OF THE KILLING THAT HAPPENED MARCH OF THIS YEAR, SONOMA PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE TRAGIC REALITY THAT MY FAMILY AND SO MANY LIKE MINE CONTINUE TO FACE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ALBERTO ALVAREZ. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING . GROUPS THAT RALLIED AT CITY HALL ON MAY 27th ARE ALLOWED TO QUESTION PEOPLE'S RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION OR LACK THEREOF FOR ENTRY. THEY HAVE PLANS TO RETURN. YES, THE GROUP HAS A LEGAL RIGHT TO PREACH THEIR PERSONAL HATE, HOWEVER THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS OF FREE SPEECH ALSO STOP GOVERNMENT FROM ESTABLISHING RELIGIOUS TASK FOR ENTRY ONTO PUBLIC PROPERTY . THE CITY GRANTED PRIVATE ENTRYWAY, AND SEATTLE POLICE TO ENFORCE A CHURCH OTHER THAN THAT PROHIBITS ANYONE NOT PART OF THEIR RELIGIOUS GROUP. ALL IN VIOLATION SEPARATING CHURCH AND STATE. WHAT OVERSIGHT ACTION OR ACCOUNTABILITY CAN YOU MAKE TO ENSURE THAT THEIR RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR ENTRY INTO SEATTLE'S PUBLIC SPACES? THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU, MR. ALVAREZ. >> NEXT UP, DAVID HAYNES. >> THANK YOU, DAVID HAYNES. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A CLIMATE THAT ALL COPS HAVE TO STAY SOBER IN BETWEEN SHIFTS AND NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE BEER ON WEEKENDS ON VACATION OR THE NIGHT BEFORE RETURNING TO WORK. THE BARTENDERS WHO KEEP OVER SERVING THEM NEED TO BE FINED OR SHUT DOWN. WITH THAT SAID, OUT OF ALL OF THE CRIME HOTSPOT BUILDINGS AND MOTELS, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN PROPERLY AND TORN DOWN COMPLETELY AND REDEVELOPED WITH EMERGENCY HOTEL HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANY PROGRESS IN THE NEIGHBOR OF REAL ESTATE ? IS COUNCIL GOING TO PRIORITIZE PERSECUTING GRAFFITI ARTISTS ON VACANT BUILDINGS AS IF -- BECAUSE 79% OF THEM ARE WHITE AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE SKIN COLOR PERCENTAGES OF THOSE INCARCERATED AND TO BLAME FOR WHAT MAKES UNSAFE? THIS COMES FROM THE MAYOR WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR HIS CRIMINAL UNDERWORLD NEIGHBORS OF HIS CHILDHOOD WHO ARE PRESENTLY CONDUCTING UNCIVIL WAR ON COMMUNITY WITH RIVAL DRUG GANGS ESCALATING MOST VIOLENCE WHILE THE MAYOR ASK ACTS LIKE WE HAVE TO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE DEVIL AND UNSAFE TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY AND VISIT. WHERE IS THE REAL PROACTIVE CRIME-FIGHTING THAT SHUTS DOWN ALL OF THE DRUG PUSHERS? AND, ALL OF THE OPEN DRUG MARKETS. WHERE IS ALL OF THE TRUST IN QUESTION OF ALL OF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS WHO PUT ON A COURT ORDER TASK TO BREAK THEIR ADDICTION. BE SET UP BY THE NATIONAL GUARD WITHIN 24 THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER THAT SECURITY AND SERVICE PROVIDERS ON SITE . WHERE IS THE NOBLE USE OF TECHNOLOGY WHERE A DRONE WOULD FOLLOW TWO PREDATORY DRUG PUSHERS ON BIKES AND SCOOTERS USING STOLEN DEBIT CARDS JOINT TRANSPORTATION WILL GO BACK TO THE STASH HOUSE TO GET ANOTHER SUPPLY? THIS IS THE CRIME. WE DON'T NEED THE POLICE CHIEF TO GO INTO LAW TO LET US KNOW HOW NICE THE COPS ARE. THEY ARE PROFITABLY SHUT DOWN CRIMINALS OUTSMARTING THE COPS WHO ARE ILL TRAINED AND NON-DEPLOYABLE IN CRIME HOTSPOT SHUTDOWNS. >> NEXT UP, AIDEN CAROL. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, BUT I WANT TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT THESE POLICIES ARE A MIXTURE OF A PROBLEM WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEMS WE DO . THESE LAWS ARE NOT ONLY VAGUE , THEY ARE NOT EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT THEY CLAIM TO. WE HAVE VACANT BUILDINGS AND WE HAVE POVERTY . THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE HAPPENING HERE. I'LL DON'T WANT TO IMPLY THAT POOR PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS, BUT SO MUCH CRIME IS CAUSED BY POVERTY . I JUST WANT TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT PROGRESSIVE REVENUE TO ALLEVIATE DESPERATION IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE THING YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE DOING TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO ENFORCE DIFFERENT KINDS OF LAWS AND BELIEFS THAT YOU CAN'T FIND ENOUGH OF. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BESIDES THE FACT THAT IF A LAW IS BEING SELECTIVELY ENFORCED, IT IS NOT THERE. THERE IS NO REASON THAT YOU CAN SIMPLY CLAIM THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRINKING ALCOHOL FROM A PLACE LIKE BREWING , THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF NUISANCE THAN BEING BOUGHT IN THE STORE. THIS IS JUST SO MUCH WASTE OF OUR TIME AND MONEY WITH ALL OF THESE DISTRACTIONS. AS LONG AS THE POLITICIANS ARE BOUGHT OFF AND ONLY HOPING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TRY TO FIND A WAY FOR THE CIVILIANS TO GO AROUND. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER IS JULIA BUCK. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JULIA BUCK AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX. I AM CALLING TO EXPECT EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS OVER THE UPDATED LANGUAGE REGARDING NUISANCE PROPERTIES . IN TERMS OF BROADENING IT TO BE EVENTS THAT OCCUR IN PROXIMITY TO A BUILDING OR TO A PROPERTY RATHER THAN ON A PROPERTY OR RELATED BE ABLE THE WHICH IS ALSO NOT DEFINED IN THE TEXT I CAN SEE. I AM CONCERNED, BECAUSE THE LAW SEEMS TO BE DESIGNED SO THAT THE LAW CAN BE APPLIED TO MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AT ONCE POTENTIALLY OVER A SINGLE SET OF PROBLEMS. THE REASON I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AS I HAVE A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE BLOCKBUSTING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL UNDER DISCRIMINATION LAWS , ALTHOUGH OF COURSE THOSE ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT. THE PRACTICE OF THE BLOCKBUSTING WAS MAKING A CALL ONTO A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD INDICATING THAT A NONWHITE FAMILY WAS MOVING IN AND THAT CAUSED PANIC AND THE HOMEOWNERS WOULD SELL THEIR PROPERTY FOR CHEAP, THEN THE HOMES WOULD BE RESOLD TO NONWHITE FAMILIES IN THE MARKED UP RATE. THIS WOULD BE IN VERSE WHERE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE APPLIED IN THE FUTURE TO APPLY FINES TO AN ENTIRE BLOCK THAT HAS POTENTIAL FOR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, AS LONG AS SOMEONE CALLS THEM CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS. THIS WOULD FORCE PEOPLE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTIES BELOW MARKET VALUE AND POTENTIALLY FACILITATE GENTRIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO MY CONCERNS. >> THANK YOU. >> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS EXPIRED AND WE WILL PROCEEDED TO ITEMS OF BUSINESS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SET OF CARDS AVAILABLE ON THE PODIUM OR EMAIL THE COUNCIL. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEMS OF BUSINESS. PLEASE READ ITEM ONE ONTO THE RECORD. >> APPOINTMENT 2175, APPOINTMENT OF FITZGERALD BARNES AS SEATTLE POLICE CHIEF. >> GOOD MORNING, CHIEF BARNES. WELCOME. DIRECTOR ANDERSON WILL BE JOINING YOU. >> EXCUSE ME, CHIEF. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE SOME REMARKS, THEN MOVE THE ITEM. >> GO AHEAD, PLEASE. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. >> SEAN FITZGERALD BARNES. >> NATALIE WALTON ANDERSON. >> WILL START WITH REMARKS OR COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE. THANK YOU. >> I WILL START WITH ARAMARK, THEN COMMENTS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ADDISON McKENZIE BARNES, YOUR 14th BIRTHDAY. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SINCE I COULDN'T BE WITH HER TODAY. TO OUR CHAIR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND TO THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN OF THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, ONCE AGAIN, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AS PART OF MY CONFIRMATION PROCESS . DURING OUR FIRST HEARING, I SHARED MY JOURNEY INTO POLICING AND THE EXPERIENCES THAT SHAPED MY LEADERSHIP PHILOSOPHY. TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE CURRENT STATE OF THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT , PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS AND THE PATH FORWARD. WHEN I ASSUMED LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT, I WAS CLEAR EYED ABOUT BOTH PROMISE AND CHALLENGES AHEAD. THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE DESERVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS EFFECTIVE , TRUSTED AND CONTINUOUSLY EVOLVING TO MEET THEIR NEEDS. I AM PROUD TO REPORT THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT STRATEGY OF SEATTLE'S CENTRIC POLICING , WHICH WAS PREVIEWED DURING OUR LAST SESSION, WE ARE SEEING RESULTS IN CRIME PREVENTION AND MOST IMPORTANTLY COLLABORATIVE PUBLIC SAFETY. AS OF TODAY, HOMICIDE IS DOWN 37% IN OUR CITY AND THE CLEARANCE RATE STANDS AT 73%. ROBBERIES HAVE DECLINED BY 16% AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT BY 17% AND BURGLARIES BY 23%. MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT IS A TOP CONCERN FOR CONSTITUENTS THAT HAS DECREASED BY 27% AND WE ARE SEEING CLEARANCE RATES ABOVE 67% ACROSS MULTIPLE CRIME CATEGORIES FOR CASES ASSIGNED TO OUR DETECTIVE UNITS. THESE ARE NOT JUST STATISTICS. THEY REPRESENT REAL PEOPLE , SAFER STREETS, LESS TRAUMA AND STRONGER NEIGHBORHOODS. WITH YOUR APPROVAL OF THE STARCHES TECHNOLOGY IN ADDITION TO OUR EXPANDING USE OF A LPR AND REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER. INTELLIGENCE LED AND MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REDUCES DANGEROUS PURSUITS WHILE IN HAND OUR INVESTIGATIVE CAPACITY. THE NUMBERS AND STATS ALONE DO NOT BUILD TRUST OR MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SAFER. COMMUNITY SAFELY MUST BE DEFINED WITH OUR COMMUNITY. I AM FIRM IN MY BELIEF THAT TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY HAPPENS WHEN EVERYDAY PEOPLE WORK ALONGSIDE THOSE OF US WHO ARE INSIDE THE SYSTEM. THAT IS TO DETERMINE HOW TO DEFINE, IMPLEMENT AND ACHIEVE PUBLIC SAFETY. TOGETHER, WE CAN ENSURE THAT OUR VISION FOR COMMUNITY POLICING IS GROUNDED AND LISTENING , RESPECT AND SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. IT CONTINUES TO BE MY TOP PRIORITY. WE HAVE HIRED 87 NEW OFFICERS. OUR NET STAFFING INCREASES AT 47 OFFICERS AND A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OVER LAST YEAR'S NET GAIN OF JUST ONE. INCREASING DAILY AS QUALIFIED APPLICANTS ARE COMPLETING OUR BACKGROUND PROCESS. THIS IS PROGRESS AND WE MUST DO MORE PARTICULARLY IN ATTRACTING AND RETAINING WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. IT IS ASPIRATIONAL AND ALSO ACTIONABLE. THIS FALL, WE WILL LAUNCH A WOMEN'S ONLY LEADERSHIP TRAINING, DEFENSIVE TACTICS TRAINING AND WE HAD BALLISTIC VEST FOR OUR WOMEN EMPLOYEES. WE ARE ALSO PREPARING TO RECEIVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE IMAGINE INSTITUTE'S REPORT ON CHILD CARE , BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN CREATING A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. AS SUCH, OUR COMMITMENTS TO OFFICER AND SAFETY WELLNESS IS UNWAVERING. EVERY SHIFT AND EVERY DAY WE PRIORITIZE OFFICER SAFETY NOT JUST THROUGH EQUIPMENT AND TACTICS, BUT EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PEER SUPPORT. OUR CHAPLAIN PROGRAM COUNSELING SERVICES, FINANCIAL LEARNERS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES REFLECT A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY , WHICH BEGINS TO CARING TO THOSE WHO WORK WITH. THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF MY CAREER , I HAVE BEEN DEEPLY COMMITTED TO CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT , THAT MEANS CONFRONTING HARD TRUTHS FROM THE BUILDING SYSTEMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND NEVER SETTLING FOR THE WAY THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. IT MEANS REFINING OUR POLICIES , EVALUATING ESCALATION TRAINING AND INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY THAT SUPPORTS BOTH PUBLIC OFFICE OF TRUST AND EFFECTIVENESS. IT ALSO MEANS ALIGNING OUR EFFORTS WITH THE CITY'S BROADER ONE SEATTLE VISION WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. SEATTLE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE NATION IN WHAT MODERN COMMUNITY CENTRIC POLICING LOOKS LIKE. TO DO SO, WE MUST FEEL BOLD ENOUGH TO CHANGE AND CONSISTENT ENOUGH TO IMPROVE A UNITED ENOUGH TO SUCCEED. I BELIEVE THE STATE AND FUTURE OF THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS STRONG , BUT ACHIEVING OUR GOALS WILL REQUIRE LEADERSHIP THAT IS COURAGEOUS , COLLABORATIVE AND COMPASSIONATE. I WILL END MY REMARKS WITH THE QUOTE FROM THE ONLY AMERICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS A POLICE CHIEF AND A POLICE COMMISSIONER, WHICH WAS THEODORE ROOSEVELT WHO WAS THE NYPD COMMISSIONER FROM 1895 TO 1897. AS A RESULT OF BEING A POLICE CHIEF OR PRESIDENT AND IT ALWAYS SPEAKS TO ME. WHERE THE DOOR COULD HAVE DONE THEM BETTER AND THE CREDIT BELONGS TO THE PERSON WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN THE ARENA AND FACE MARRED WITH SWEAT AND BLOOD AND STRIVES COURAGEOUSLY COMES UP SHORT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND THERE IS NO EFFORT ABOUT ERA . DONE SO TO STRIVE TO DO GOOD DEEDS AND KNOWS GREAT ENTHUSIASM, DEVOTION AND WHO SPENDS HIMSELF IN A WORTHY CAUSE. AT LEAST IF HE FAILS, HE FAILS WHILE DARING GREATLY. I BELIEVE WE CAN FULFILL OUR MISSION TO BUILD A SAFER , STRONGER SEATTLE AND ONE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES. ANYTHING TO ADD ? AGAIN, WELCOME . I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME BACK MY VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR SAKA WHO COULD MAKE THE LAST MEETING. AS USUAL, I GO TO MY VICE CHAIR IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I COULDN'T BE HER LAST MEETING. I HAD A HORRIBLE FLU AND WAS BEDRIDDEN , BUT I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE TAPE OF THE FIRST SESSION , BUT IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU APPEAR BEFORE US WITH ME JOINING TODAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST QUESTION PERTAINS TO GUN VIOLENCE. AS A COUNCILMEMBER AND VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE , I HAVE BEEN VERY ENCOURAGED BY YOUR COMMITMENT AMONG OTHER THINGS LOOKING AT DATA AND FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REGARDING GUN VIOLENCE. YOU HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE ON AN INTERIM CAPACITY NOW FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS . CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT CHANGES YOU HAVE MADE SINCE BECOMING INTERIM CHIEF THAT YOU FELT WITH RESPECT TO GUN VIOLENCE? YOU FELT WERE LACKING IN THE DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF GUN VIOLENCE AND WOULD HAVE BEEN THE INITIAL RESULTS AND WHAT ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES DO YOU SEE THAT MAY LIE AHEAD ON A GO ORDER BASIS? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE BACK AND FEELING WELL. GUN VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING THAT IS CERTAINLY RELATED NOT ONLY TO OUR CRIME RATE , BUT IS ALSO RELATED TO THE FEAR OF CRIME WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MEETINGS WE GO TO TALK ABOUT BEING FEARFUL OF CRIME AND THEY TALK ABOUT HEARING GUNSHOTS. THEY TALK ABOUT NOT KNOWING THE ORIGIN OR DESTINATION FOR THOSE GUNSHOT , SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN SERIOUSLY. SOME CHANGES I HAVE MADE IS THAT WE NORMALLY DO A WEEKLY GUN CALL WHERE WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS , FEDERAL PARTNERS, LOCAL PARTNERS, INTELLIGENCE GROUP TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENCES OF GUN VIOLENCE THAT WE HAVE HEARD, WHETHER IT'S SHOTS FIRED OR HOMICIDE ABOUT A ROBBERY . IF IT INVOLVES VIOLENT CRIME, YOU HAVE THAT MEETING AND WE EXPANDED THAT MEETING TO CHOOSE TWO DAYS A WEEK , SO WE CAN GET AHEAD OF WHAT'S GOING ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH TENDS TO BE MOST CITIES WHERE YOU SEE AN INCREASE IN GUN VIOLENCE AND AFTER THE WEEKEND IS OVER TO REFLECT ON HOW WELL WE DID IN ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. WE ARE CERTAINLY WORKING, I THINK WITH SOME OF OUR TASK FORCE OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE PERSONS WHO REPEAT GUN VIOLENCE OFFENDERS THAT THOSE CHARGES ARE NOT ONLY BROUGHT FEDERALLY , BUT IF WE CAN BRING THOSE CHARGES TO OUR KING COUNTY PROSECUTORS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. WE DID TRY TO CREATE A GROUP OF OFFICERS SPECIFICALLY FOR PROACTIVITY , BUT THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE ACTUALIZED, BECAUSE IT IS A VOLUNTEER BASIS AND THERE IS COMPETITION FOR WORK THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FILL ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, BUT STILL HAD THAT AVAILABLE FOR OFFICERS AND COMMANDERS. WE ARE EMPOWERING OUR PRECINCT COMMANDERS TO WORK ACROSS DIFFERENT BUREAUS , DIVISIONS AND SECTIONS TO ASK FOR HELP. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE HELP OF OTHER UNITS THAT TRADITIONALLY HAVE NOT GIVEN US PROACTIVE PATROLS TO HELP WITH SOME PROACTIVE PATROLS TO INCLUDE OUR SQUAD TEAMS OR HARBOR PATROLS FOR SOME OF OUR PARTS WITH BOTH WATCHES ON THEM. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY A BIG PROPONENT OF COMMUNITY VIOLENCE WITH A MEETING LATER TODAY TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY MORE IN DOING SOME OF THAT, THEN JUST THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. THE OFFICERS AND PRECINCT CAPTAINS HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT MEETINGS AND MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE TRENDS WE ARE SEEING . WE ARE ASKING FOR HELP AND TALK TO FAMILIES . WE ARE ALSO SPREADING THE MESSAGE ABOUT NOT LEAVING GUNS IN OUR VEHICLES. WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF GUNS THAT HAVE BEEN STOLEN FROM VEHICLES AND THEY TEND TO END UP IN THE WRONG HANDS. WHEN WE DO RECOVER THOSE WEAPONS, IT IS CALLED A TRACE FORM, WHICH HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE ORIGIN OF WHERE THE WEAPON MAY HAVE OCCURRED AND SOME OF THESE WEAPONS ARE BEING PUT IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE STOLEN FROM VEHICLES AND WHERE ASKING PEOPLE TO TAKE THEIR WEAPONS INSIDE AND SECURE PROPERLY. >> THANK YOU. THE NEXT QUESTION ON GUN VIOLENCE AND YOUR ASSESSMENT. HOW CAN THE COUNCIL THROUGH LEGISLATION OR BEING AN EFFECTIVE PARTNER DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS HELP BEST MPOWER YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT TO DRIVE DOWN GUN VIOLENCE AND START SEEING BETTER RESULTS? >> I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN AMAZING PARTNERS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ON DOING SOME OF THAT . HELPING US DEVELOP REAL-TIME CRIME AND HAVE SEEN ONE INCIDENT OF SHOTS FIRED, ON CAMERA AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT OCCURRED, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE AN ARREST SAFELY AND NOT ABLE TO INTRUDE ON SOMEONE'S PERSONAL PRIVACY THAT WASN'T INVOLVED , SO BEING LASER FOCUSED ON THAT CERTAINLY HELPS AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STAFFING WITH THE COUNCIL HAD DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOB IS ATTRACTIVE AND WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE THEY CAN TAKE THEIR FAMILIES AND LIVE -- IT HELPS THE SUPPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT I HAVE SEEN FROM CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, SUCH AS YOURSELF, COUNCIL KETTLE WHO HAVE GONE TO ONE OF BRIEFINGS AND TALKED TO POLICE OFFICERS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO . WE DO HAVE CRIMES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO RE-EDUCATE OUR POLICE OFFICERS ON WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T DO FOR SOMEONE TO LOWER-LEVEL CRIMES, WHICH WE THINK WILL HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH GUN VIOLENCE . THE FINAL THING IS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN BETWEEN MY OFFICE AND ALL OF COUNCILMEMBERS . WE WERE ON A CALL YESTERDAY WITH ALL OF YOUR CHIEFS OF STAFF AND THEY MET WITH MY NEW CHIEF OF STAFF FOR AN INTRODUCTORY CALL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PRODUCTS YOU NEED , SO YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO REDUCE CRIME TO HAVE THOSE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND SOMETHING GOING ON CRIME RELATED. TO GET THAT AND HAVE REGULAR FOR INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES. I APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION ON THE ISSUE OF GUN VIOLENCE FROM A CITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE AND PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO KNOWN PROBLEM AREAS IN MY COUNCIL DISTRICT, DISTRICT 1 ALONG SNAKE HILL AND I THINK THERE IS STILL PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICES, AS WELL. THERE IS STILL SOME WORK TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZED AND TRAUMATIZED EVEN IF THEY DON'T -- IF THEY ARE NOT PERSONALLY HIT OR STRUCK BY A BULLET OR A STRAY BULLET. PEOPLE ARE FED UP AND I'M FED UP AND I KNOW YOU ARE, AS WELL . PLENTY OF WORK TO DO, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR INITIAL COLLABORATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU IN YOUR WORK. WITH RESPECT TO THAT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD IN WEST SEATTLE OR SET OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO MORE , WHETHER IT IS A REVIEW FOR THE EXTRA EMPHASIS PATROLS IN PARKS , BUT ALSO FROM A CITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE, SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK . CHAIR CATTLE, I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE. I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, LET ME CHANGE GEARS. KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE, CHIEF IS OUR HIGHEST RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. THERE IS NO GREATER RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IN MY VIEW. WE LITERALLY HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY , THAT IS OUR HIGHEST RESPONSIBILITY . KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. KEEP PEOPLE SAFE ON THE STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES AND ON OUR ROADS. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE PART OF THE FOCUS OF THE NEXT LINE OF QUESTIONING IS KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE ON THE ROADS . OUR CITY HAS A GOAL OF ENDING TRAFFIC DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON CITY STREETS BY 2030. IT IS OUR VISION ZERO INITIATIVE. TOGETHER, WE HAVE MADE INVESTMENTS, INCLUDING THE TRANSPORTATION LEVY, RECENT VOTER APPROVED TRANSPORTATION LEVY TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS AND MAKE BOLD INVESTMENTS TO ADVANCE THE GOAL WE HAVE . THE COUNCIL HAS ALSO PASSED AND ADOPTED A FUNDING IN IMPLEMENTING LEGISLATION TO DEPLOY AMONG OTHER THINGS, AUTOMATED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT , SAFETY CAMERAS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DESPERATELY NEED THEM . WE KNOW THAT ENFORCEMENT, PARTICULARLY AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS AND TECHNOLOGY IS A FEDERALLY PROVEN COUNTERMEASURE , ONE OF 40 PLUS PROVEN COUNTY MEASURES TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE SAFE ON THE ROADS , WHETHER IT'S RED LIGHT CAMERAS, SPEED CAMERAS IN SCHOOL ZONES, NONSCHOOL ZONES , BLOCK THE BOX CAMERAS ET CETERA AND THE LIST GOES ON. IT SEEMS TO BE GROWING ALL THE TIME , SO AS A COUNCIL PAST AND PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT APPROPRIATIONS TO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS TO SCHOOL ZONES AND ADD ALMOST $1.2 MILLION IN STARTUP EXPENSES AND MOST OF THE CHEMISTRY FOR THEMSELVES OVER TIME , BUT IN THE START UP EXPENSES TO INITIALLY START TO DEPLOY THE NONSCHOOL SPEED HIS OWN CAMERAS AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, SO THEY PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE ON THE ROADS AND HELPING US BETTER ACHIEVE OUR VISION ZERO GOALS , BUT IT'S NOT THE MAGIC BULLET DID NO SUCH THING. IT'S A FAIRYTALE AND A MYTH. IT'S THE IMPORTANT PART OF A SOLUTION AND BROADER COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION. THAT SAID, AS WE'VE LEARNED, THIS COUNCIL HAS AUTHORIZED THE DEPLOYMENT SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO NO OF DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF SPEED ZONE CAMERAS IN SCHOOLS AND $1.2 MILLION FOR NON-SCHOOLS. WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THE NONSCHOOL SPEED CAMERA DEPLOYED AND THE DATE THE DEPARTMENT IS MAKING GOOD INITIAL PROJECTS PROGRESS ON SOME SCHOOLS. BOTTOM LINE, IT TAKES WORK TO OPERATIONALIZE AND IMPLEMENT INVESTMENTS THAT WE DO HERE IN PARTNERSHIP THE MAYOR. IT TAKES WORK AND TIME, UNFORTUNATELY. I AM IMPATIENT AND IT TAKES TIME TO DO IT RIGHT. EVEN WHEN WE DO FULLY OPERATIONALIZE THESE AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGIES . AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGIES EVERYDAY DON'T COVER THINGS LIKE RECKLESS DRIVING , DISTRACTED DRIVING . THOSE ARE HUGE CONTRIBUTORS TO SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC DEATHS AND BODILY INJURIES ON THE ROAD. THEY ALSO DON'T ADDRESS THEM UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO STATE LAW PROHIBITIONS CERTAIN PUBLIC ACTIVITY LIKE EXCESSIVE NOISE AND VEHICLE NOISE. YOU WILL KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE TRY TO WORK ON INITIATIVES AND WE WILL NECESSITATED NEXT YEAR TO TRY TO GET THE CHANGE. MY POINT IS THAT UPPER REALIZATION OF THESE ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGIES TAKES TIME . TO DO IT RIGHT, IT TAKES TIME. EVEN WHEN THE CURRENT FUTURE CAPABILITY WITH STILL SOME GAPS OF WHAT CAN AND CAN'T DO. THERE ARE STILL NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A PATROL OFFICER UNDERTAKING PERSONALIZE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON A LIMITED BASIS . I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS ADVOCATING FOR BROAD WIDESCALE. PATROL OFFICERS PARTICULARLY IN A STAFFING CRISIS TO FOCUS SOLELY ON TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS. THEY DO PLAY A PART IN THE BROADER SOLUTION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FUTURE GAP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT . IN TERMS OF THE ULTIMATE GOAL CHANGING BEHAVIOR ON ROADS, ESPECIALLY CHANGING DRIVER BEHAVIOR. I DO PERSONALLY RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF POLICE OFFICERS IN TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. SMART BASIS AND LIMITED BASIS. ALL OF THAT THROAT CLEARING ASIDE, MY QUESTION TO YOU, CHIEF, AND IMPORTANT CONTEXT, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE SPD'S ROLE IS IN HELPING SUPPORT THE GOALS OF VISION ZERO IN ELIMINATING TRAFFIC DEATHS, SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR ROADS ? WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENT'S ROLE IS IN HELPING TO THAT? WHAT ADDITIONAL ACTIONS DO YOU THINK THE DEPARTMENT COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE TO HELP BETTER ACHIEVE THESE GOALS? RECOGNIZING THAT THE STOCK PLAYS AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN IMPLEMENTATION, AS WELL. >> WE ARE ALIGNED IN THAT TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS CERTAINLY A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICING. WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY , WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC OR GUN VIOLENCE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, POLICE ARE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR AND NORMALLY THE FIRST ONES TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEM MAY BE. OUR ROLE IS TO WORK WITH ESTAR AND OTHERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN VISION ZERO , WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT AND WE DID HAVE IN MY LAST JOB, AS WELL. WE WORKED TOGETHER AND I ASSUME WE WILL DO THE SAME THING HERE. WE HAVE DATA THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS TO WHERE WE ARE SEEING THE MOST DANGEROUS COLLISIONS AND IN MY FORMER JOB, WE DEVELOPED THE HIGH INJURY TRAFFIC NETWORK WITH A LIST OF INTERSECTIONS THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY ACCOUNTED FOR MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISIONS WHERE INJURY WAS THE THING, SO WE WORKED WITH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND ENGINEERING TO SEE IF THERE WERE CHANGES THAT WE COULD MAKE TO THE ROAD DESIGN OR CHANGES WE COULD MAKE TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, WHICH I LEARNED IS THE EXACT SCIENCE . THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS CHANGING THOSE CHANGES ALMOST LANDSCAPE OF AN ENTIRE SECTION OF CITIES , SO IT'S NOT AS EASY AS MAKING FLASHING LIGHTS OR LONGER. IT'S A SCIENCE BEHIND IT. MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE DATA TO OUR OTHER VISION ZERO PARTNERS IS IMPORTANT. ENFORCEMENT IS IMPORTANT AND IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY THING. WE HAVE BEEN WRITING TRAFFIC TICKET SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME AND STILL WRITING , SO IT IS USUALLY A POOR INDICATOR OF CHANGED BEHAVIOR, BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES HELP AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC UNIT AND WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT I BELIEVE GOING ON WHERE WE HAVE OFFICERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH OUR TRAFFIC UNITS, WHETHER IT'S OUR MOTORCYCLES OR OTHER TYPE OF UNITS TO ENFORCE TRAFFIC, BUT THAT IS NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND ONCE WE GET BACK TO FULL STRENGTH, WE LOOK TO COURSE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS FULLY STAFFED, SO THEY CAN BE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SLOWDOWN BEHAVIOR OR CHANGE BEHAVIOR FOR PEOPLE NOT GETTING HURT IN ACCIDENTS. >> AS CHAIR FOR THE CITY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER CLOSELY WITH US.ASKED. AND WORK ACROSS THESE SILOS AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY THROUGH ENFORCEMENT IN YOUR ROLE, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO DESIGN OTHER ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS, AS WELL. MAKE NO MISTAKE , ENFORCEMENT IS PART OF THAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. WE DID TURN INTO A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE FOR SECOND AND I'M ON TRANSPORTATION TOO. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT AND BY THE WAY, PARKING ENFORCEMENT. THE CITY MADE A MISTAKE YEARS AGO WHEN WE PUSHED TO SDOT. IT IS BACKWARD BELONGS NOW. THAT IS ANOTHER AREA OF INTEREST FOR ME AND I WILL PUT A PLUG IN FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT. THE LITTLE THINGS COUNT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT? >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE ARE IN A CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAJECTORY . IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE A NET POSITIVE OF 47 SO FAR AS COMPARED TO ONE LAST YEAR. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE GROUP. THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE GROUP WAS FORMED IN OCTOBER 2020 WITH 100 OFFICERS AND THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS GROUP IS THAT THEY ARE DEPLOYED CITYWIDE AND NOT ASSIGNED TO ANY PRECINCT AND ARE DEPLOYED TO RESPOND TO WHAT IS NEEDED IN THE MOMENT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ALSO DO SOME PROACTIVE POLICING AND THAT'S REALLY GREAT, BECAUSE I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I GET THE QUESTION SIMILAR TO, I CAN SEE PEOPLE RIGHT THERE SELLING DRUGS ON THE STREET OUT OF AN RV OR WHATEVER. WHY ISN'T THERE ANYONE PROACTIVELY GOING AFTER THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE GROUP IS IMPORTANT FOR MANY THINGS, INCLUDING EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S DOWN THERE NOW OR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE GROUP ANYMORE ? DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO ADD TO THE NUMBERS AS WE STEP UP, SO WE CAN RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT I HEAR ABOUT A LOT? MORE LOW-LEVEL THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO NOTICE AND THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A MORE SUSTAINED PRESENCE FROM SPD? >> I AGREE THE PRODUCTIVITY AND CRIME PREVENTION IS NUMBER ONE. THAT IS NUMBER ONE FOR ME AND I'VE SAID IT MY ENTIRE CAREER AND OUR FIRST SESSION. WE HAVE GREAT WAYS TO HAVE MORE PROACTIVITY. OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE GROUP DOES AN AMAZING JOB FOR US, BUT THEY ARE QUITE FRANKLY PULLED IN MANY DIRECTIONS. WITH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WE STAFF UP , WHICH WE ARE GETTING THERE, BUT AS WE STAFF UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PROACTIVE UNITS ASSIGNED. I THINK PRECINCT CAPTAINS NEED AND RESERVE THEIR OWN OFFICERS WHO ARE PROACTIVE AND CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERNS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AS WE STAFF OFF, I WOULD RATHER SEE US CREATE A SYSTEM, SO THAT THOSE OFFICERS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO THE PRECINCT CAPTAINS. WE PUT A LOT ON THEM. THEY ARE YOUR FIRST POINT OF CONTACT. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO CALL PEOPLE UNDER YOUR UMBRELLA THAN OTHERS. WE ARE BREAKING DOWN SOME SILOS, BUT THERE ARE FIVE PRECINCT CAPTAINS AND THEY ARE ALL ASKING FOR THE SAME GROUP TO HELP AND THEY DO HELP. THEY DO A GREAT JOB . TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AS WE STAFF UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PROACTIVITY OR PROACTIVE OFFICERS ASSIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO THE PRECINCT. >> I AGREE. IT DOES MAKE SENSE THAT THE PROACTIVE GROUPS ARE WITHIN PRECINCTS, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T REALLY CARE WHICH GROUP IT IS. IT IS THE PROACTIVE POLICING PART THAT IS SO IMPORTANT AND IT WOULD INCREASE THE CONFIDENCE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WILL BE BRIEF. I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE QUICK COMMENTS THAT I WANT TO RELAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, CHIEF. I WANT TO THANK PUBLIC SAFETY CHIEF NATALIE. IS THAT YOUR OFFICIAL TITLE? IT SOUNDS RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, AS WELL. I COME FROM A DISTRICT THAT IS VERY UNIQUE IN DISTRICT 3 AND SAFETY LOOKS DIFFERENT FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEEDS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, TRAFFIC SAFETY , DRUG CRISIS ON THE STREETS, GUN VIOLENCE AND SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE SAY GUN VIOLENCE, I PREFER IF IT'S YOUTH. OUR BABIES ARE SHOOTING EACH OTHER AND THAT REALLY HUMANIZES WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND WE ALSO HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN OUR DISTRICT FROM POLICING. OUR FIRST BLACK COUNCILMEMBER WHO ADVOCATED FOR THE EAST PRECINCT, BECAUSE THE DISTRICT WAS NOT GETTING RESPONDED TO TO 2020 IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE. DURING THIS CONFIRMATION, LISTEN TO COMMUNITY AND PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF FEEDBACK, WHICH IS GREAT AND I RECEIVED THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR NEW CHIEF. DEPARTMENTS THAT GUARD OUR COMMUNITY NOT NECESSARILY WARRIORS , BUT HELP EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL. A DEPARTMENT THAT IS COLLABORATIVE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS INTEGRATED WITH OUR CITY . OFTENTIMES, PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK INSIDE AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE FRONT FACING OR HAVE THE INTERACTION. A DEPARTMENT THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY ON ALL LEVELS FROM CAPTAINS, CHIEF , LIEUTENANTS AND OFFICERS. A DEPARTMENT THAT IS TRANSPARENT AND COMMUNICATIVE RECENTLY SOCIAL MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS WITH CERTAIN EVENTS HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT TONE AND DIRECTION AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT THAT HAS COME FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TALKING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE TICKET HAS THE RIGHT TONE AND I LOVE THAT. EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT RESPECTS, HONORS AND ELEVATES WOMEN IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND ALSO OFFICERS. A DEPARTMENT THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT RESPONSES ARE NEEDED AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND WE ARE EVOLVING AS A SOCIETY IN KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES. A DEPARTMENT THAT UNDERSTANDS MOST YOUTH ARE NOT BAD, BUT BOARD AND THEY NEED ACCOUNTABILITY, AS WELL. WE NEED TO INCORPORATE PARENT SUCCESS IN THAT COMMUNITY, AS WELL. I HAVE HAD TWO FRIENDS THAT ARE MY GRADE SCHOOL FRIENDS AND BETWEEN THE TWO HAVE SPENT OVER 30 YEARS IN PRISON. THEY WENT TO PRISON WHEN THEY WERE 18 OR 19 FROM A DISTRICT AND RECENTLY GOT OUT AND I REMEMBER WE WERE AT THE CORNER AND HAD NEVER BEEN TO CITY HALL, BUT WE USED TO JOKE ABOUT IT. ACROSS THE STREET TO THE COUNTY JAIL. THEY NEVER STEP FOOT INTO CITY HALL AND A LOT OF KIDS JUST NEED EXPOSURE IN OUR COMMUNITY. A LOT OF KIDS NEED RESOURCES AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY IS FILLED WITH RESOURCES AND EXPOSURE AND CHANGING A KIDS LIFE TAKES ONE MOMENT FOR THEM TO BE EXPOSED TO SOMETHING THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN , ESPECIALLY KIDS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHO ARE SEEING SO MUCH CONTENT. CHIEF AND POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT KIDS NEED TO BE EXPOSED TO GOOD THINGS THAT REALLY WILL CORRECT THEM ON A DIFFERENT PATH. ALSO, A CHIEF THAT USES THEIR PLATFORM TO HELP TRANSFORM SOME STEREOTYPES OF TRADITIONAL POLICING. LAST BUT NOT LEAST AND HOPEFULLY I GOT YOUR TITLES RIGHT , BECAUSE YOU ARE A FATHER, HUSBAND AND SON AND BROTHER. MY FAMILY IS OVER HERE, BUT IT'S OKAY THAT YOU ARE A KAPPA, SO I GIVE YOU THAT. YOU HAVE A PHD AND A FORMER HISTORY TEACHER AND EDUCATOR. OFTENTIMES, SEATTLE DOES THIS A LOT. SEATTLE OFTEN LOOKS AT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE LENS OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THROUGH THAT WITH OUR PROGRESSIVE SEATTLE THAT SOMETIMES LOOK AT BLACK COMMUNITY THROUGH THE LENS OF MENTAL JUSTICE. THAT'S IT. MY GOAL AND HOPE IS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO USE THE PLATFORM TO BREAK STEREOTYPES AND TO EDUCATE PEOPLE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT PEACE. SMALL BUSINESSES, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION. THOSE ARE INTEGRATED WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN USE THAT PLATFORM, AS WELL. CONTINUE TO STAY ROOTED IN YOUR MISSION . WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT YOUR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO PROTECT THE CITY AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, BUT YOU ARE HUMAN AND I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GOOD JOB FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE, SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'LL BE SURE TO SEND THESE TO YOU, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. I MIGHT ADD --. >> MY APOLOGIES, MR. CHAIR. AND, A MARINE. >> THANK YOU, ONCE AGAIN, FOR ALLOWING FULL COUNCIL PARTICIPATION TODAY FOR THE IMPORTANT CONFIRMATION PROCESS. THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES FOR BEING HERE TODAY FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS. IF WE ARE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR YOU IN WRITING AHEAD OF THESE PROCESSES. TODAY, I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS AND I WILL JUMP IN. JUST OVER ONE YEAR AGO, WAS MURDERED OUTSIDE OF GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. ON JUNE 6th, THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY ON NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY, I AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES JOINED THEIR FAMILY, CLASSMATES IN A WALKOUT RALLY AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL. THE MURDER IS STILL AT LARGE AND POSSIBLY STILL WALKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I HEARD FROM NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MEDIA THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS NOT GOTTEN THE KIND OF REGULAR UPDATES ON THE INVESTIGATION THAT WE DESERVE FROM SPD'S OFFICE. HOW WILL YOU TO BE DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION WITH FAMILIES ON THE IMPORTANT MATTER AND WHAT SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS TO TRANSPARENCY AND MEDIA ACCESS AND WE EXPECT FROM SPD UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP? >> THANK YOU. TO THE FAMILY OF A LIFE THAT WAS LOST , POTENTIAL AND A LIFE, ONSET OF A PLACE THAT I ALWAYS BELIEVED SHOULD BE A SANCTUARY ON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. OUR OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES CONTINUE TO WORK THE CASE WITH NO SUCH THING AS A COLD CASE IN THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. DURING MY FIRST MONTH, I GOT BRIEFED ON ONGOING CASES. CASES WE HAVE YET TO SOLVE AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM. I WAS ASSURED THAT ARCHITECT GOODS ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE FAMILY . THERE HAS NOT BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR REASON . OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES ARE FOLLOWING UP ON INFORMATION AND WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT ANYTHING OUT THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THE INFORMATION OR WHEN PEOPLE COME FORWARD . WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION THEY ARE GIVING US IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CASE THAT COULD NOT BE THE CASE IF WE GAVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO OUR PUBLIC. WE ARE COMMITTED TO RESOLVING THIS AND MANY OTHER CASES THAT HAVE GONE UNSOLVED AND I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR HOMICIDE UNIT AND DETECTIVE UNITS WHO ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS CASE. MOVING FORWARD, AND VERY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR WITH US AS COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH STATED AND EVEN WHAT WE ARE DOING ON TWITTER LOOKS DIFFERENT AND FEELS DIFFERENT, BECAUSE HER AND HER TEAM ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND HAVE IDEAS . I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THE WORD WOULD BE OVER COMMUNICATING AND YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. USUALLY THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, I'VE GONE A COUPLE OF ROUNDS WITH DETECTIVES ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT PUT OUT, BUT IF IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE THE CASE, MY BELIEF IS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR OWN PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION. YOU CAN EXPECT A COMMUNICATION STYLE THAT IS OPEN , FREQUENT AND TRANSPARENT. >> CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. MOVING FORWARD WITH MY SECOND QUESTION, LESTER THE CITY RATIFIED PARTIAL LABOR AGREEMENT WITH OVER $170 MILLION IN OFFICER RAISES AND PASSED A BUDGET WITH ROUGHLY 15% INCREASE TO OVERALL ALLOCATION . THE CITY IS FACING $250 MILLION BUDGET GAP THAT THE BODY -- POSTPONED INVESTMENTS AND ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SEATTLE IS GOING TO DO RIGHT BY ITS EMPLOYEES AND HAVE TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICES AND SHOULDER OUR FAIR SHARE OF THE WORK . THE BIG PICTURE, WHERE ARE WE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET WITH THE KIND OF REDUCTIONS OF EXPENDITURES WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND TO KEEP THE PROMISE TO BOTH EMPLOYEES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. >> WE ARE DOING THAT PROCESS NOW AND I THINK SOME OF OUR NON-SWORN POSITIONS ARE BEING FROZEN FOR SALARY SAVINGS . OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE WITH OFFICE OF HIRINGS AND IN MY EXPERIENCE EVALUATING TECHNOLOGY LICENSES SET FOR RENEWAL OR THE EXPIRING OUR WAY TO SAVE MONEY AND GIVE SALARY SAVINGS. WE ARE RECRUITING AND OFFICERS GETTING IN PART TO THE BUDGET INSTRUCTIONS I GAVE THEM A MANDATE OF 200 OFFICERS BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH MAY CAUSE PEOPLE TO HAVE HEART PALPITATIONS. ONCE THEY CAME BACK THEY SAID, WE CAN DO THIS. I THINK OUR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH HR , THEY ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND LITERALLY WORKING ALMOST 24/7 TO MAKE SURE WE GET QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE HUDSON AREA WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO TURN BACK NOW. >> THANK YOU. MY FINAL QUESTION FOR TODAY. MY OFFICE HAS ASKED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO HOW YOU INTEND TO APPROACH ACCOUNTABILITY AND PARTNER WITH OUR ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES MOVING FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ANSWERS AND WRITING. TODAY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HEARD FROM HIGHTOWER WHOSE BROTHER WAS KILLED BY SPD WHILE EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. TOO MANY IN THE COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE U.S. HAVE BEEN KILLED AT THE HOUNDS HANDS OF POLICE. WE NEED TACTICS AND PREVENT DEATHS FROM HAPPENING. FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DOES JUSTICE LOOK LIKE FOR VICTIMS AND FAMILIES OF VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? >> WHEN IT COMES TO INCIDENCES THAT HAVE A DISPARATE OUTCOME OR AN OUTCOME THAT NO ONE WANTS, INCLUDING THE POLICE , ACCOUNTABILITY BEGINS LONG BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. ACCOUNTABILITY BEGINS WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS WELL-TRAINED AND USES TACTICS THAT HAVE GOOD SUPERVISION AND MY DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE THE TOOLS, TRAINING, TECHNOLOGY AND TEAM TO GET THE JOB DONE. ACCOUNTABILITY ALSO MEANS THAT WHEN YOU ARE COMMUNITY TO HELP US OUT, AS WELL AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE WARNING SIGNS OF MENTAL HEALTH AND SEE THE WARNING SIGNS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE THAT YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO PRETTY WOULD BE SURPRISED THAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, SO THEY CALL 911 AND THE POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP. I HAVE BEEN WORKING OR PART OF POLICING THAT WE DEBUTED LAST TIME IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE OR OFFICERS HAVE A RESOURCE LIST, SO WHEN WE GO TO THE CALL AND SEE THE WARNING SIGNS WE CAN GIVE OUT A RESOURCE LIST , SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT NEXT TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS OF SOMETHING BEGINS TO ESCALATE IF THEY CAN CALL FOR HELP . WHEN PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO CALL FOR HELP, THEY CALL 911 AND A POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP. I WANT TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE AND A PARTNER WITH ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT , CIVIC OR EVEN NONPROFITS . IN MY LAST JOB WE HAD AN AMAZING RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NONPROFITS AND WE PROVIDE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED TO GIVE THEIR GRANTS AND WE ALSO APPLIED FOR GRANTS AND PASSED THROUGH GRANTS. WE HAD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PASSED THROUGH GRANTS THAT WAS GIVEN TO US FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OTHERS AND WE GAVE IT DIRECTLY TO THE NONPROFITS. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN SEATTLE, BECAUSE WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO INCREASE SAFETY AND DECREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT ANYONE GET HURT IN A POLICE INTERACTION. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS. THERE IS OVERLAP AND I WON'T ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL JUST GO PRETTY QUICK, BECAUSE WE ARE ON TIME CHALLENGES. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION ON COMMUNICATION AND HAVE OFTEN SAID THERE'S ONE WAY TO COMMUNICATIONS AS IT RELATES TO SPD AND I WOULD LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE MOVING BUDGET WITH A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON TO INCLUDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WASHINGTON STATE AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. ACCOUNTABILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THE GENERAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND OUR ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS. IT'S INTERESTING, TOO, AS THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IS THAT IT'S LIKE ANOTHER VERSION OR INTERSECTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH. WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK THE PUBLIC HEALTH SIDE OF THE SITUATION AND CHALLENGE WE ARE FACING. THAT CAME UP WITH HIGHTOWER, BUT MR. GALE AND OTHERS, AS WELL. BASICALLY, IT GUYS TO THE QUESTION WHERE WE ARE ON THIS BRIDGING MOMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE MASSES AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS , I BELIEVE WE ARE IN THIS BRIDGING MOMENT AND I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THE EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT SAYING THAT WE ARE WORKING THERE, BUT WE ARE NOT WERE THERE YET. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS A CITY TO BE DOING. I NOTED THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROTESTS FROM A COUPLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE LESSONS AND THOSE PROCESSES FOR CROWD MANAGEMENT AND AT SOME POINT WE GET THOSE REVIEWS AND WE BRING THEM TO COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE TWO MORE, BUT I WILL AND WITH A POSITIVE PRINT FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT , DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, AND RECOGNIZE WITH THE JACKSON BUILDING PROTECTIVE SERVICE. THAT IS ONE PIECE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING RELATED TO FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY WITH DHS OR IF THERE ARE COMMUNICATIONS -- GOING BACK TO COMMUNICATIONS, MY UNDERSTANDING AND TALKING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY AND DOESN'T SEEM TO BE INTEREST COMING OUT OF THE FEDERAL SIDE, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THAT FRONT, PLEASE CONTACT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. CONTACT US. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I MAKE A MOVE HERE IS IN THE ANSWERS THAT YOU GIVE US TO QUESTIONS, YOU TALKED ABOUT TRUST. THE ABILITY TO GAIN TRUST IS LISTENING. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MEETINGS AND ONE MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NATIVE COMMUNITY. HOW YOU HAVE MET WITH THE MEMBERS OF INDIGENOUS ADVISORY COUNCIL AND OTHERS AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT. THE AVERAGED ALL COMMUNITIES TO INCLUDE THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SUFFERING, LIKE THE NATIVE COMMUNITIES, AND YOU CANNOT REACH DOING AN OUTREACH IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT SAID, I MOVE THE RECOMMEND 3175 . IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND BIRTH >> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND . ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS? ONE QUICK ONE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES, FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND ADDRESSING THIS COMPLEX PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COLLABORATION AND AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOU AND YOUR APPROACH . YOU ARE CLEARLY VERY HIGHLY CREDENTIALED . YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE SKILLS , EXPERIENCES AND ABILITIES TO HELP US AS A CITY BETTER DELIVER UPON OUR HIGHEST RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE AND YOU CAME IN AT A TIME WHEN WE NEEDED AN OUTSIDER. MORE THAN EVER. THERE IS A CONCEPT OF THE SEATTLE FREEZE AND I HOPE IT HAS NOT BEEN TOO CHILLY IN THAT REGARD. I AM PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR NOMINATIONS TODAY. YOU ARE VERY RESPONSIVE AND OUR CITY IS LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. IT IS ADDISON'S BIRTHDAY TODAY. IS SHE YOUR DAUGHTER? >> YES, SHE IS. YOUNG KIDS MYSELF , I KNOW THAT SERVICE IS REQUIRED FOR SACRIFICE AND TODAY IS A DAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME PERSONAL FAMILIAL SACRIFICES. I HOPE ADDISON ON THE FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY NOW IN SEATTLE UNDERSTANDS THAT OUR SACRIFICES ARE MAKING AN IMPACT AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL CLEAR THE BIGGEST HURDLE AND FOR YOU TO BECOME PERMANENT CHIEF, WHICH REFLECTS GREAT UPON YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR ENTIRE CITY OF SEATTLE AND OUR COMMUNITY. WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU, CHIEF BARNES BIRDS PROUD TO SUPPORT YOUR NOMINATION. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ADDISON. LIKE I SAID, WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL IN RECOMMENDATION. >> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] >> FOUR IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED FOR THE >> MOTION THAT THE WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND PLEASED TO MISS ADDISON BARNES AS A BIRTHDAY PRESENT YOUR DAUGHTER, MY VICE CHAIR BEAT ME TO THAT, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HER . EITHER WAY, THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE AND YOUR OTHER KIDS AND WIFE, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY A LOT AND IT'S IMPORTANT PRETTY SPECIAL THANK YOU ON YOUR BIRTHDAY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR SECOND ITEM OF THE BUSINESS. PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD. >> HUNTSVILLE 1209 AND FIVE, ORDINANCE RELATING TO NEW CIVIL CAUSE OF ACTION AGAINST GRAFFITI TIGERS FOR ILLEGAL GRAFFITI ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY AND REQUIRING RESTITUTION ADD A NEW SECTION OF 10.0 7.055 TO THE SEATTLE MENISCAL CODE AND AMENDING SECTION 10.0 7.010 OF THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE. >> THANK YOU, CLERK. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR JOINING US FOR OUR SECOND BILL AND JOINING WITH MR. LINDSEY ALSO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I BELIEVE FROM CENTRAL STAFF. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION. >> HELLO. GOOD MORNING. I'M CITY ATTORNEY ANN DAVISON. >> SCOTT LINDSAY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. GOOD MORNING. >> WELCOME. OVER TO YOU. >> I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE AND PARTICIPATING AGAIN. EVEN IF HE HAS ALREADY EXITED, I APPRECIATE INTERIM CHIEF BARNES AND HOPEFULLY SOON PERMANENT, AS WELL. HIS WORK IMPORTANTLY ON ALL THINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON, AS WELL. AFTER POLICE SHOW UP SOMETIMES WHEN THEY DO FIND THAT THEY NEED TO REFER TO MY OFFICE WITH 80% OF CRIME IN SEATTLE IS MISDEMEANOR CRIME , WHICH COMES TO MY OFFICE OF WHICH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GRAFFITI AND I'VE HEARD FROM MANY OF YOU SITTING HERE ON THE DAIS THAT THIS IS A CONCERN FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY FOR YOUR DISTRICTS. WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR AND IT'S ALSO A CONCERN OF HIS AND MINE. I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON HOW TO BE INSTRUMENTAL , SO THAT OUR CITY IS KNOWN AS A PLACE OF ORDER AND WHERE WE TAKE CARE OF OUR RESOURCES, WHICH MEANS ASSETS, BUILDINGS AND LOCATIONS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO FURTHER MAKE SURE LAWS ARE MEETING ALL AND THAT PEOPLE COMPLY? YOU ARE LAWMAKERS FOR THE CITY, SO THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THINGS FOLLOWED, AND PART OF THAT ACCOUNT ABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT AND WHEN IT COMES TO ACTS FOR MISDEMEANORS AND GROSS MISDEMEANORS. WHAT I'M COMING TO YOU WITH TODAY IS A LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY THAT YOU CAN BE PARTNERS IN THE SUPPORT FOR THIS TOPIC OF IN REGARDS TO OUR CITY OF THE ILLEGAL GRAFFITI ACTION THAT WE SEE HAPPENING SO MUCH AND IS SO PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I HOSTED MANY CITY ATTORNEYS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME BATTLE WE HAVE IN REGARDS TO GRAFFITI. DESPITE BEING LARGE METROPOLITAN AREAS, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THAT WE SEEM TO NEED TO GET UNDER CONTROL AS WE HELP SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF TAX DOLLARS, BECAUSE WE HAD TO EXPEND A LOT OF THEM IN THE CLEANUP OF THIS. WHAT I'M BRINGING IS A CIVIL STRATEGY WHEREBY WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION PIECE IF WE FIND THAT THE EVIDENCE IS DIFFICULT TO PROCEED ON FROM A CRIMINAL PROCESS . WHAT CAN WE DO FROM A CIVIL PROCESS THAT WOULD BE A DETERRENT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE NEED TO COMPLY WITH LAW AND NOT DESTROY OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY? WHAT I'M BRINGING ABOUT TODAY IS ABOUT THAT. IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE, IT COSTS US AS A THE AND STATE OF WASHINGTON ALL OF WHICH IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO CLEAN UP IN ADDITION TO PROPERTY OWNERS. A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS KNOW THE TIGERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THEM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND USE THIS TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES AND THEIR WORK AND I HAVE NO INTEREST IN GIVING THEM ANY AIRTIME, SO I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THEM PERSONALLY. WE DO NOT WANT TO ENCOURAGE ACTION THAT WE DON'T WANT , SO WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM MORE AIRTIME OR ATTENTION, BUT WE DO SEE THEIR ACTIONS AND A LOT OF POLICE DO KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND HOW CAN WE BE INSTRUMENTAL WITH THAT SITUATION AND DO THINGS? I WILL GIVE YOU THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE DO HAVE GRAFFITI INCIDENTS. OVER 28,000 JUST IN 2024 ALONE. ONLY 35% TO MY OFFICE FOR REFERRAL FOR POTENTIAL PROSECUTION. THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY AND SIGNIFICANTLY SMALL NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT THEY THINK THEY CAN SEND IT OVER TO MY OFFICE. AGAIN, THE CITY IS SPENDING $6 MILLION AS COUNCILMEMBER TALKED ABOUT BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF RESOURCE AND INVESTMENTS AND THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO APPROPRIATE FOR, SO I WOULD GUESS THAT THIS IS NOT MONEY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND IN THIS CAPACITY, BUT IT WOULD BE EASIER IF PEOPLE JUST COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND NOT DAMAGE PROPERTIES AND USE THE DOLLARS FOR BETTERMENT OF OTHER ITEMS. IN ADDITION TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ALSO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY OF THEIR OWN TO UPDATE THE GRAFFITI PROBLEM. JUST TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL AS TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING OVER THE COURSE OF TIME , I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC AND THIS IS HOW I MAKE MYSELF MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON DATA . YOU CAN SEE A LOOK BACK TO 2017 TO HOW MANY PERIPHERALS REFERRALS. I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM GROW , SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER OF PERIPHERALS HAS GONE DOWN, THE PROBLEM IS INCREASING. TO GIVE YOU A COMPARATIVE OF HOW MUCH I'M CHARGING SINCE 2022 AND I AM CHARGING MORE OF THOSE, BUT I'M STILL GETTING FEWER. THE INABILITY TO PUT A LOW NUMBER OF OFFICERS WHEN WE NEED THEM TO SEE SOMEBODY COMMIT THE CRIME , SO HOW ELSE CAN WE BE STRATEGIC IN HELPING DETER PEOPLE IN THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY WHERE IT'S CAUSING DAMAGE TO PROPERTIES? >> AGAIN, NOT WANTING TO GIVE AIRTIME TO PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS IS A WAY TO GIVE SOCIAL VALUE FOR THEMSELVES AND BUILT THEIR OWN REPUTATION , BUT YOU HAVE SEEN A LOT OF TAX WHERE YOU WOULD PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THE NAME OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND YOU MIGHT SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN ALL THE WAY THROUGH ALONG I-5 ALONG ROADSIDES WHERE YOU CAN'T READ THE EXIT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAFELY TAKE. THIS IS PART OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE CITY TO EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE HAD THE CLUB CUP GOING ON NOW AND WORLD CUP NEXT SUMMER. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET ABOUT SAFELY AND WHEN THERE IS TAGGING OVER ROADSIGNS, THAT IS PROBLEMATIC FOR US , AS YOU TALKED ABOUT ROAD SAFETY. I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOCUSING ON. MANY TAGGERS ARE KNOWN, BECAUSE THEY PROMOTE THEMSELVES ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH PEOPLE ENCOURAGING THEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE A TOOL THAT IS MEANINGFUL TO SAY THAT LAWS NEED TO BE COMPLIED WITH AND THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS CIVIL STRATEGY FOR YOU. THIS NEW CIVIL ENFORCEMENT TOOL WOULD HELP BE ABLE TO CLOSELY CONNECT CONSEQUENCES WITH CONDUCT AND THAT IS A CRITICAL PART THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING ACROSS TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THIS TYPE OF DAMAGING ACTIVITY TO A PROPERTY. THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING CIVIL ACTION AGAINST ILLEGAL TAGGERS IN SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT. THE AMOUNT WOULD BE $1000 PER VIOLATION PLUS RESTITUTION FOR LABOR AND MATERIAL COSTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE MONETARY DAMAGES TO BE CONVERTED TO COMMUNITY SERVICE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE CLEANUP, THEN HE COULD DO IT YOURSELF, BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN THIS ACTIVITY AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO USE COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, AS YOU SAID, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE JUST BORED AND LET'S FIND OTHER THINGS TO DO GOOD IN THE CIVIL CASE, PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE AS OPPOSED TO CRIMINAL VIOLATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. THIS IS NOT INSTEAD OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, BUT WHERE WE THINK THAT THE BETTER WAY THAT WE CAN PROCEED FOR DETERRENT IMPACT IS THROUGH CIVIL PREPONDERANCE STANDARD WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE AND MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE IS RECEIVED. WE WOULD PRIORITIZE BRINGING ACTIONS AGAINST THE MOST PROLIFIC ILLEGAL GRAFFITI TAGGERS AND MANY TAGS THAT YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE AS YOU SEE THEM NUMEROUS TIMES , BUT I WILL NOT GIVE THEM AIRTIME TODAY. THIS WILL GIVE YOU A DESCRIPTION ABOUT THE REFERRALS THAT WE DO HAVE, SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR CITY. YOU CAN SEE THE REFERRALS THAT WE SEE -- IS THIS ON REFERRALS? THIS IS BASED ON CRIMINAL REFERRALS AND 85% MALE AND 79% CAUCASIAN. THAT IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC ENGAGED AND I WILL CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE HOW THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY 19-YEAR-OLD, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE FULLY FUNCTIONING UNEMPLOYED AND ADULTS. THEY'RE NOT JUST PEOPLE LOST AND YOUNG ADULTS OFTEN TIMES THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STRATEGICALLY ENGAGED IN THIS ACTIVITY FOR A LONG TIME AND LOOKING TO INCREASE THEIR SOCIAL REPUTATION AND THE NOTORIETY BY DAMAGING OUR PROPERTY AND COSTING US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THE CIVIL TOOL WILL BE ABLE TO ADD TO A DIFFERENT WAY TO DETER PEOPLE FROM ENGAGING IN THAT IT CITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . ANYTHING FROM CENTRAL STAFF? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY PREPARED REMARKS TODAY, BUT THERE IS A STAFF REPORT ONLINE FOR YOU ALL IF YOU'RE INTERESTED ON COUNTS OF THE 1209 AND FIVE AND WE WILL NOTE A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE STAFF REPORT OF OBSERVATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY REST TO CONSIDER AND ONE IS THAT THE BILL DOESN'T HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU ALL WISH TO SEE IN THE FUTURE HOW MANY CASES THE CITY ATTORNEY DRIVES AND OUTCOMES RESTITUTION OR PENALTIES THAT WERE PAID , THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ADD TO THE BILL VIA AN AMENDMENT OR ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REPORT THAT DURING ONE OF THEIR ANNUAL REPORTING SESSIONS. SECOND, THE LANGUAGE THAT DEFINES GRAFFITI SAYS THAT IT IS ANY PERSON OR ENTITY THAT APPLIES ILLEGAL GRAFFITI TO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY ANOTHER PERSON OR ENTITY TO DO THE SAME. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY OR MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE WILLING TO TALK MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK IN COURT AND WHO THAT PROVISION IS TARGETED AT AND SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO ENCOURAGE ONLINE GRAFFITI. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, DAVIDSON . THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY. REGULAR STAFF ANALYSIS AND NEVER HOLD OF DOCUMENTS. FROM ONE OF MY WISER COLLEAGUES, BUT I MARKED IT UP, DOGEARED IT, HIGHLIGHTED IT AND VERY HELPFUL. ALSO, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND A SUMMARY AND FISCAL NOTE . MY FIRST QUESTION IS -- I ORIGINALLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ANTICIPATED NET REVENUE THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO RECEIVE, THEN I READ FURTHER IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T EXPECT THERE TO BE MUCH AND SAME WITH THE EXECUTIVE. MUCH IN THE TERM WITH RESPECT TO NET REVENUE THAT THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY REALIZE FROM THIS , WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE . THAT SAID, ANOTHER ASPECT OR FEATURE OF THE BILL IS THAT IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CONVERSION OF FINES AND RESTITUTION INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE CAN EXPECT NOT TO RECEIVE MUCH IN TERMS OF MATERIAL FINES AND REVENUE FROM THIS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION WE KNOW TODAY. WHAT IS THE INITIAL ANTICIPATED IMPACT? ON ONE HAND, WE KNOW THAT PROBABLY THE FINES OR AMOUNTS OR REVENUES RECEIVED ARE DE MINIMIS, BUT HOW MUCH RESTITUTION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS ROUGHLY BALLPARK GOOD WE POTENTIALLY EXPECT TO SEE OR BE YIELDED FROM THE BILL IN YEAR ONE OR OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS OR WHATEVER. ARE YOU THINK MAKES SENSE. WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED IMPACT IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATED RESTITUTION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR SAKA AND I KNOW THIS IS A CRIMINAL CASE BUT I'M NOT ASKING FOR BUDGET SPECIFICALLY . I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND CIVIL ENFORCEMENT SECTION TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY CURRENTLY DO FOR OTHER THINGS. AGAIN, WE ARE FOCUSING ON PROLIFIC TAGGERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY, SO IT'S NOT A LARGE NUMBER, BUT IT IS AGAIN THAT THEY DO A LOT OF DAMAGE. THAT WOULD BE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS UP TO IF THEY WANT TO PAY THE FINE AMOUNT OR IF THEY WOULD RATHER DO THE WORK AS CLEANING UP, SO WE WOULD NEGOTIATE THAT AND MINE WOULD NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR REPRESENTATION TO DO THAT. IT IS PROBABLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO FORECAST GIVEN THAT THE INDIVIDUAL COULD CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS AVAILABLE THERE. >> THANK YOU. ON AN ATTACHMENT, ONE OF THE PROSECUTION IN SEATTLE GRAFFITI RATES -- CHARGE RATES ARE HIGH . IT IS GENERALLY ABOVE 50% OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. THE DISPOSITION RATE ON ANOTHER OUTCOME IS ONLY 11% THAT RESULTED IN GUILTY PLEAS, SO IT'S UNDERSTAND IT THAT IT WOULD BE INTENDED TO PROVIDE ANOTHER TOOL TO ADDRESS THAT, SO BASED OFF OF THE CURRENT REFERRALS AND CHARGE RATES, CAN YOU AT LEAST QUANTIFY BALLPARK -- THE VOLUME OF THE ANTICIPATED VOLUME OF THOSE CASES THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO PURSUE? >> AGAIN, WE CAN ONLY ACT AFTER WE GET INFORMATION FROM THE INVEST GETTING AUTHORITY, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE FROM POLICE FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND MUCH OF THE DATA WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE USED ALSO FOR THE CIVIL PEACE, SO WE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AND HOPEFULLY IT HAS BEEN INCREASING FROM THE INVESTIGATORY WORK AND IN RELATION TO THE GRAFFITI IS THAT THE EXECUTIVE HAS, AS WELL AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE MY DEPUTY ADD DETAILS IF YOU WANT SOME ADDITIONAL PIECES THAT I'M UNABLE TO SPEAK TO RIGHT NOW. >> COUNCILMEMBER, MOST OF THE TOP 20 GRAFFITI TAGGERS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, SO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND THERE MAY BE OUTSTANDING MISDEMEANOR AND/OR FELONY CASES AGAINST THEM, BUT OFTEN THOSE CASES WILL BE FOR A SINGLE INCIDENT WHERE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOZENS OR EVEN HUNDREDS OF GRAFFITI TAGS AROUND THE CITY. WE ARE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE THOSE OTHER CASES, BECAUSE THEY WERE CAUGHT IN THE ACT FOR THOSE, THEREFORE WE CAN'T PROVE THEM AROUND ON REASONABLE DOUBT. THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, WE BELIEVE WE CAN BRING A CIVIL CASE FOR THOSE, BECAUSE WE CAN BRING IT UNDER THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE STANDARD, SO THE INITIAL GOAL IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE TOP 20 OR SO GRAFFITI TAGGERS IDENTIFYING THAT MOST OF WHOM HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED COLLECTING THE WORK AND BRINGING CASES AGAINST US FOR THIS TOPIC OF THE PROLIFIC FOLKS TRYING TO CREATE THE DETERRENCE EFFECT AT THE TOP AND LET IT FILTER DOWN. >> ANOTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT WHEN THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TALKS ABOUT THE OFFENDERS, ONE SEATTLE GRAFFITI TEAM, THE GRAFFITI IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY REFERRED TO A MOMENT AGO, WHEN THERE ARE KNOWN TAGGERS, AND WHEN IT IS A HIGH-VALUE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE, THEY WILL DOCUMENT THEIR ACTIVITIES AND CLEANED IT UP AND TAKE PICTURES OF IT , THEN STORE THAT INFORMATION SUCH THAT WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER TAG DONE , THEY HAVE A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF PLACE, TIME AND PERSON . THEY STORE THE INFORMATION AND WORK WITH SPD AND THE SEATTLE OF ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GO AFTER THOSE FOLKS . I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND THE REASON I MENTION THIS IS BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY SORT OF THE SYSTEM BUILT IN THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCESS SOME OF THOSE FOLKS. SHOULD THEY PROSECUTE, BUT GO AFTER ABATEMENT PURPOSES. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS ANALYSIS OF THE PEOPLE COMMITTING THESE OFFENSES AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AS WE DEVISE SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE NEED. BY MY READ OF DEMOGRAPHICS PROVIDED, WHITE MEN , WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION FROM AN AGE PERSPECTIVE , ONE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS WITH RESPECT TO AGE? YOU WOULDN'T SEE JUVENILE CASES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO THROUGH YOUR OFFICE. I WOULD STILL LOVE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DEMOGRAPHICS FROM AN AGE PERSPECTIVE . I HEARD THERE WAS A PROLIFIC 19-YEAR-OLD POTENTIALLY , BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AGE. >> WE DID NOT, BUT WE WILL CONDUCT THE AGE ANALYSIS OF THE REFERRALS. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED AND HAVE FOCUSED A LOT OF ATTENTION, INCLUDING HELPING THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT BILLED FELONY CASES I THINK 17th MAJOR FELONY CASES AND A MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS WERE NOT ONLY WHITE MALE, BUT IN THEIR 30s IN WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS SAYING EARLIER . OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT MANY OF THESE FOLKS ACTUALLY HAVE JOBS , RESOURCES, CARS, CONDOS AND OTHER THINGS. THEY DO THIS IN PART FOR BUILDING A SOCIAL MEDIA REPUTATION AND IT WAS CAPTURED ON I THINK SLIDE FOUR. A LOT OF THIS IS ABOUT SELF-PROMOTION ONLINE UNDER THEIR TIGER NAMES AND THAT IS THE SUBCULTURE IN WHICH THEY ARE TRYING TO THRIVE. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE AGE DEMOGRAPHIC SIMILAR TO HOW YOU DID FOR THIS? BREAK IT UP TO HOW YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND . >> ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMEMBER. >> THANK YOU. PERTAINING TO PAGE FIVE FOR STAFF MEMBER ANALYSIS MEMO WHO CALLS OUT, CONSIDER ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ELABORATE ON HOW THE PROVISION MIGHT WORK. I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO FOLLOW-UP OFF-LINE, BECAUSE I WANT TO GET YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION. IF YOU ALL WOULDN'T MIND, IT IS CONTAINED IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH OR LAST SENTENCE WHERE THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE PROVISION WOULD OPERATE IN COURT. I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE QUERY ON THAT. IN THE TIME REMAINING, CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THE FINE AMOUNT? I KNOW IT'S $1000 PER VIOLATION. WHAT FACTORS INFORMED THAT DETERMINATION OF $1000 ? THINK ABOUT COMPOUNDING OR ESCALATING FINES FOR SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS? CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT HOW THAT SPECIFIC FINE AMOUNT WAS SET? >> WE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE USED THIS TYPE OF STRATEGY. IT WAS OUR STARTING PLACE . AGAIN, LOOKING AT LARGE PIECES, THEY ARE COSTLY TO REMOVE, SO THIS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD ROUND DOLLAR TO START WITH. WE JUST WANT TO BE AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS POSSIBLE, BUT AGAIN COSTLY, BECAUSE IT DOES COST US A LOT TO CONTEND WITH AND WE ARE HAVING TO DISCUSS IT, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO ENGAGE WITH THE DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR. >> AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, THIS WAS A GUIDEPOST BASED ON WHAT OTHER CITIES DID AND WHAT OTHER FINES THE CITY IMPOSES FOR OTHER PROBLEMATIC CONDUCT, BUT IN ADDITION, THIS IS A $1000 FINE PER VIOLATION, SO I WOULD IMAGINE A SPECIFIC TAG ON THE SIDE OF THE FREEWAY , BILLBOARD, LIGHTBOX AND IN ADDITION WE WOULD ADD ON TOP OF THAT THE COST OF ABATEMENT. SOMETIMES IT CAN BE THREE, FIVE OR $10,000. JUST FOR THAT SINGLE GRAFFITI TAG , IT WILL BE $1000 PLUS THE COST OF ABATEMENT FROM THE CITY, SO THAT COULD END UP BEING UPWARDS OF FIVE TO $10,000 PER GRAFFITI TAG THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEKING ADJUSTMENT ON. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE LEARNED THAT CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL AND SPD AND OTHERS THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GRAFFITI, IT'S NOT THE SPRAY PAINT ITSELF THAT IS THE MOST PROBLEMATIC, BUT THE ITCHING TOOLS. MOST CAN BE REMOVED FAIRLY EASY WITH CHEMICALS, BUT THE TOOLS THAT RELEASE YEAR AND DAMAGE MATERIAL AND CORRODE THE MATERIAL WHERE THERE IS GLASS , LIKE WALLS OR SOME SORT, THAT CREATES HARMFUL DAMAGE . THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING MY QUESTIONS. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT? >> I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO CAPTURING A YES VOTE ON THIS LEGISLATION EVER SINCE YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THIS, WHICH WAS A LONG TIME AGO. I THINK THIS IS GRAFFITI PREVENTION. THE GRAFFITI VANDALISM REMOVAL COST THE CITY MUCH MORE ABOUT THE TIME , EFFORT AND COST TO SMALL BUSINESSES TO REMOVE IT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAW. AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, IT TAKES A LONG TIME. ONE SINGLE TAG OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS FRUSTRATING AND I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT GRAFFITI IS THE SINGLE MOST COMMON COMPLAINT IN MY INBOX. THAT IS A LOT OF COMPLAIN ABOUT GRAFFITI, SO THIS WILL BE EXTREMELY WELCOME. I JUST APPLAUD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY ATTORNEY, FOR PROVIDING US WITH A TOOL TO DETER GRAFFITI VANDALISM, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THROUGH CIVIL INFRACTION, WHICH I'M GOING INTO A PATTERN WHICH SEEMS TO BE AN APPROACH YOU HAVE TAKEN OR SPECIALIZING IN AND IT MATTERS, BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES PEOPLE THINK TWICE OF THE LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING TO PAY. HOW MANY OF US DON'T SPEED BECAUSE OF THE TICKET? IN ANY CASE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO VOTE. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS. I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE A COSPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION. >> I THINK YOU ARE. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR SZCZUR COMMENT AND THE 18 MONTH MARK, I HIGHLIGHTED THE CONNECT TISSUE THAT IS FINDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES AND ONE OF THEM IS GRAFFITI. THANK YOU FOR THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNCIL IN SPECIFICALLY THE COMMITTEE ON A HOST OF ISSUES TO INCLUDE THE NEXT ONE. BEFORE I MOVED, I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE GRAFFITI'S ARE MR. JACKSON AND THE TEAM THAT DOES A LOT OF THE WORK AND DOES A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTATION, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT POINT ABOUT THE TEAM THAT IS WORKING HARD TO WORK THE GRAFFITI ISSUE AND POTENTIALLY MAY GET SOME HELP. WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WILL MOVE QUICKLY TO THE THIRD ITEM OF BUSINESS. PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE RECORD. >> CONSTABLE 121006 , ORDINANCE RELATED TO CHRONIC NUISANCE PROPERTIES ALLOWING UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES OFF PROPERTY NUISANCE ACTIVITY TO COUNT TOWARDS DETERMINING THAT PROPERTY IS A CHRONIC NUISANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 10.0 9.010 AND 10.0 9.030 OF THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE. >> THANK YOU, CLERK. THANK YOU FOR JOINING CITY ATTORNEY DAVISON AND DEPUTY, AS WELL. WELCOME, DEPUTY MAYOR AND DIRECTOR FROM CENTRAL STAFF. I RECOGNIZE WE ARE RUNNING LATE. AND DON'T THE PATIENT'S OF MY COLLEAGUES AND IT'S IMPORTANT . WE HAVE A BITTY COMMITTEE SCHEDULED THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THINGS ON TRACK, SO THANK YOU AND OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY PRESENTATION WILL TAKE LESS THAN TWO HOURS. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING ON THE CHRONIC NUISANCE PROPERTY ORDINANCE , WHICH WAS FIRST ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2009 IN THE 16 YEARS SINCE THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND THE CITY HAS USED IT 17 TIMES. SEVEN USES AGAINST MOTELS AND FIVE INVOLVED NIGHTCLUBS. THREE WERE PRIVATE HOMES AND ONE APARTMENT BUILDING AND ONE COMMERCIAL EVENT SPACE. A PROPERTY MAY BE DECLARED A CHRONIC NUISANCE IF THREE OR MORE CRIMINAL NUISANCE ACTIVITIES OCCUR IN ANY 60 DAY WINDOW OR SEVEN OR MORE IN ANY 12 MONTH PERIOD. THERE IS ONE OTHER CATEGORY RELATED TO CHRONIC NUISANCE INVOLVING DRUG TRAFFICKING AND SEEKING JUDICIAL WARRANTS THAT COULD ALSO BE USED. THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN A VITAL TOOL IN ADDRESSING SERIOUS COMMITTAL BEHAVIOR AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WITH PLACES THAT CAUSE GREAT HARM TO PEOPLE AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CITY HAS CAREFULLY AND AFFECT UGLY USED THE ORDINANCE TO STOP CRIMINAL NUISANCE ACTIVITIES. AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE ACTIVITIES MUST OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY BEING EVALUATED, BUT SOMETIMES THESE ACTIVITIES WITH THE DIRECT TO THE PROPERTY OCCUR NEARBY AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THESE AMENDMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A LIST OF THE CURRENT QUALIFYING CRIMINAL OFFENSES THAT CAN BE USED IN CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT A PROPERTY IS A CHRONIC NUISANCE AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE OFFENSES INVOLVE CRIMES OF VIOLENCE. THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS AUTHORIZED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DECLARE A PROPERTY CHRONIC NUISANCE AND NEGOTIATE A CORRECTIONS AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE PROPERTY. ONCE THE CHIEFS TO RATION LETTER HAS BEEN SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER , THEY HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO RESPOND AND WORK ON THE CORRECTIONS AGREEMENT. PENALTIES FOR NONCOMPLIANCE CAN BE UP TO $500 PER DAY AND THERE IS ALSO A PROVISION FOR A ONE-TIME $25,000 PENALTY. THE POLICE CHIEF LETTER DECLARING A PROPERTY OF CHRONIC NUISANCE DOCUMENTS THE ACTIVITIES THAT LED TO THE DECLARATION AND EXPLAINS THE PROCESS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR PERSON IN CHARGE NEEDS TO FOLLOW . CORRECTION AGREEMENTS TYPICALLY REQUIRE MITIGATION STEPS SUCH AS ADDING LIGHTING, ADVANCED TRAINING FOR SECURITY STAFF, TRASH CLEANUP, VEGETATION REMOVAL, ENHANCED FENCING, BETTER SCREENING FOR WEAPONS OR OTHER ACTIONS DECIDED OR DESIGNED TO STOP THE CHRONIC NUISANCE ACTIVITIES. PROPERTY OWNERS ARE USUALLY VERY QUICK TO COMPLY AND THE CITY HAS NEVER HAD TO GO TO COURT TO ENFORCE A CORRECTIONS AGREEMENT. INCLUDE PROCESS PROTECTIONS THAT HAVE WORKED WELL TO PROTECT PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS AND AS A MENTIONED LEAD TO THE CORRECTION AGREEMENTS. THIS NEXT TABLE OR THE RECENT FIVE USES OF THE ORDINANCE. THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE APPLICATIONS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND ARE DOCUMENTED ON THIS SLIDE. THE THREE MOTELS IN 2020 , 2023 WERE CLOSED AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REOPEN UNTIL THE CORRECTIONS AGREEMENT WAS SATISFIED AND THE PROPERTY PAST THE CITY EXPECTION. THE PRIVATE RESIDENTS IN 2021 INVOLVED A FAMILY MEMBER WITH SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AND THE FAMILY WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY MOVE THE INDIVIDUAL TO AN ADULT CARE HOME, THEN THEY SOLD THE HOUSE. THE AFTER HOURS CLUB IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR WAS CLOSED AND THE OWNER INFORMED THE CITY THAT HE WOULD NOT REOPEN. TWO THE AMENDMENTS THEMSELVES, THE FIRST ADDS LIQUOR VIOLATIONS TO THE LIST OF OFFENSES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED WHEN A PROPERTY IS BEING EVALUATED. THIS CHANGE ADDRESSES AFTER HOURS VENUES AND OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WILL CONTINUALLY VIOLATE OUR CITY AND STATE CRIMINAL LAWS RELATED TO ALCOHOL. THE SECOND ALLOWS OFF PROPERTY NUISANCE ACTIVITIES TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER A PROPERTY IS A CHRONIC NUISANCE, BUT THOSE OFF PREMISE ACTIVITIES MUST MEET A THREE-PART TEST. THEY MUST OCCUR ADJACENT TO OR IN PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY. THEY MUST INVOLVE A PERSON ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING GUESTS AND SPECIFIC FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES MUST ESTABLISH ANNEXES BETWEEN THE NUISANCE ACTIVITY AND THE PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL IN WASHINGTON STATE. BREMERTON , EVERETT, SPOKANE, SUNNYSIDE AND TACOMA ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE OFF PROPERTY INSTANCES IN WHEN MAKING A DETERMINATION OF CHRONIC NUISANCE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE CONDUCTED STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH REGARDING THESE AMENDMENTS. WE DID THIS WITH WASHINGTON NIGHTLIFE AND MUSIC ASSOCIATION WITH APPROXIMATELY 40 INDIVIDUAL OWNERS OF NIGHTLIFE VENUES AND WE HELD A TEAMS QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH NIGHTLIFE OWNERS AND RE-ENGAGE WITH BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREAS, DOWNTOWN SEATTLE ASSOCIATE NATION , SEATTLE METRO CHAMBER . WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THREE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS STADIUMS. WE HEARD TWO THINGS IN THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS. THEY ALL TOLD US THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE SEEKING THESE AMENDMENTS. SOME SHARED WITH US HOW WE ARE CONCERNED WITH HOW THE CITY WILL ENFORCE THE NEW ORDINANCE. WE ANSWERED THE CONCERNS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT BY POINTING TO THE HISTORY OF THE ORDINANCE BEING USED ONLY 17 TIMES IN 16 YEARS AND THE THREE-PART TEST THAT MUST BE MET. WE ALSO REMINDED STAKEHOLDERS THAT MULTIPLE NUISANCE ACTIVITIES MUST BE DOCUMENTED WITHIN SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES. THIS IS NOT A ONE OFF SITUATION. THIS ORDINANCE IS USED WHEN PROPERTIES PRESENT A CONSISTENT THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY IN EVERY PREVIOUS SEEMS THERE HAS BEEN A PATTERN OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR THAT WE WOULD ALL AGREE CAUSE GREAT HARM. THESE WERE GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND I REMINDED THEM MOST OF WHOM WERE FROM THE NIGHTLIFE AND MUSIC SECTOR THAT THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN THE CITIES NIGHTLIFE ENVIRONMENT BY ADDRESSING IRRESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS AND VENUE OPERATORS. AT THE END OF THE STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSIONS, NO ONE EXPRESSED OPPOSITION. >> [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] >> THE MEMO THE STATUS QUO, INVOLVING THE CITY TO ENGAGE IN REGULATION FOR ON-SITE ACTIVITIES , IT DOES PROVIDE A FAIR AMOUNT OF DUE PROCESS SO THE CHIEF CAN ACT , AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THE ATTORNEY AND THE COURT ARE LEFT AS A WAY TO ENFORCE WHAT THE CITY IS DEMANDING. AUTHORITY HAS BEEN USED . THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS EXPAND THAT AUTHORITY, WITH RESPECT TO ALCOHOL, TARGETED TOWARDS VENUES SERVING ALCOHOL, AFTER HOURS , THE EXPANSION TO OFF-SITE REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF THE CITY AUTHORITY, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WHETHER THE DUE PROCESS MEASURES IN PLACE ARE SUFFICIENT TO BALANCE THE INTEREST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. OF THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC SAFETY . I AM HAPPY TO DISCUSS DETAILS , IF YOU ARE SEEKING AMENDMENTS , I CAN HELP WITH THOSE AS WELL. >> CITY ATTORNEY , LAST WORD BEFORE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU . THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION. THE LAST USE OF THAT WAS TO CLOSE ONE OF THE AFTER HOURS VENUES WITH A DOUBLE HOMICIDE WAS , THAT WAS DONE IN EXPEDIENT FASHION BECAUSE IT WAS CLEAR TO DO THAT AND WE GOT THE AGREEMENT FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER. THAT IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS RELATED TO GUN VIOLENCE AND HOW CAN WE SEE A REDUCTION IN THAT. THE EXPANSION OF THE PROXIMITY PIECE IS CRITICAL AS WE LOOK TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE, BECAUSE , SOMETIMES WE CANNOT USE THIS ORDINANCE AS IS, BECAUSE 30 40 , 50 GUNSHOTS ARE IN THE PARKING LOT OUTSIDE OF THE VENUE AND NOT DIRECTLY IN IT OR ON THE PROPERTY PREMISES . THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE WE CAN BE INSTRUMENTAL IN SUPPORTING HER WORK. >> THANK YOU . WE HAVE JUST PASSED OUR TWO HOUR TIME , MAYBE ONE QUESTION AND WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW-UP IN THE NEXT MEETING. VICE CHAIR ? >> THANK YOU , MR. CHAIR . I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE SOME BRIEF REMARKS . I JUST WANT TO THANK THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR BEING HERE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR PROPOSING THIS , SMART PIECE OF LEGISLATION. LAST YEAR, THIS COUNCIL , IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MAYOR, WE PASSED A TRANSFORMATIVE PIECE OF LEGISLATION , GAVE THE FIRE CHIEF GREATER POWER TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST UNSAFE, DANGEROUS VACANT BUILDINGS. TO PREVENT FIRE HAZARDS. SAVE LIVES. HAD , AMONG OTHER PROVISIONS , A SUMMARY ABATEMENT PROVISION, ALLOWING FOR SUMMARY ABATEMENT OF BUILDINGS UNDER LIMITED CONDITIONS. AND , BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL , GAVE THE FIRE CHIEF GREATER POWERS TO TAKE STRONGER ACTION AND, AS THE CHAIR NOTED IN HIS REMARKS EARLIER, IT IS WORKING. EVEN THE THREAT OF , I WILL WIELD THIS POWER IF I HAVE TO , HAS COMPELLED BETTER COOPERATION AND HELP INCENTIVIZE BETTER ACTION FROM SOME OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT LAST YEAR , I GOT TO THINKING, I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND DO A COMPANION BILL , THIS YEAR , PURSUANT TO WHICH WE GIVE THE POLICE CHIEF GREATER POWERS TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST CERTAIN NUISANCE PROPERTIES. AND , I STARTED TAKING INITIAL PRELIMINARY STEPS , WORKING WITH OUR CENTRAL STAFF, TO EXPLORE THIS AND EXPLORE THE PATH TO WRITING SOMETHING, MY OWN LEGISLATION , I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH IN THIS BODY TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER AND STRONGER, IF NEEDED, BUT THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA AND I VIEW THIS AS THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IN GIVING OUR CHIEFS THE >> Reporter: AUTHORITY TO CARRY OUT THEIR IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY MANDATE . MAYBE NEXT YEAR, WE WILL LOOK AT GIVING THE CARE DEPARTMENT CHIEF GREATER AUTHORITY TO CARRY OUT THEIR -- AND DO SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT, THIS IS A SMART THING WE CAN DO TO GIVE OUR POLICE CHIEF AND OUR DEPARTMENT BETTER AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION WHEN ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS WAS HERE TESTIFYING , MY DISTRICT IS HEAVILY IMPACTED BY SOME OF THESE INCIDENTS, IT IS PIONEER SQUARE, EARLIER THIS YEAR, MOST REBEL GUNFIRE INCIDENTS AFTER HOURS , IN A PARKING LOT, THIS YEAR ALREADY , FOLKS FROM THE RESIDENCE COUNCIL CALLED ME AND LET ME KNOW THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. NOT JUST THE ESTABLISHMENT ITSELF, THE PARKING LOT , ADJACENT ACTIVITY, LET OUT , FROM YOUR CHART , DEPUTY MAYOR, WE KNOW THAT THE PRIMARY USE CASES ARE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE BUT NOT LIMITED AS THERE ARE RESIDENTS IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE POSSIBLE. WHICH WE NEED AS WELL. SO , SMART PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND KUDOS TO YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR INCLUDING OTHER WASHINGTON CITIES , YOU KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. ALL THAT AS TO SAY , CHAIR, BECAUSE THIS WAS ALREADY -- I ALREADY UNDERTOOK WORK TO PRODUCE SOMETHING SIMILAR, I WOULD LOVE AND ASK TO COSPONSOR THIS LEGISLATION. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT ? >> I WILL BE FAST AND TAKE THE EDGE OFF LINE. LOOKING AT THE CRIMES OF CHRONIC NUISANCE CHARGE, RAPE, WEAPONS, ETC. IS SMALLER LEVEL DRUG DEALING , CONSUMPTION , ASSAULT, AND GENERAL HARASSMENT ENOUGH TO TRIGGER SOMETHING LIKE THIS? DOES THE AREA WHERE -- IN THE CITY WHERE THIS IS OCCURRING GET FACTORED IN TO THE NUISANCE LEVEL? I AM THINKING OF McDONALD'S ON THE 50 YARD LINE DOWNTOWN, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHY IT IS THERE. COULD BE A FUNCTION OF TRANSIT PATTERNS BUT I WANT TO GET AN IDEA OF THE GRAVITY OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE OR AROUND THE BUSINESS TO TRIGGER THIS. >> DRUG VIOLATIONS , DRUG CRIMES WOULD QUALIFY HERE. WHETHER OR NOT, I DON'T THINK WE ARE PREPARED TO THINK ABOUT A SPECIFIC -- >> IT SEEMS LIKE A LEVEL DOWN FROM THESE CRIMES. WHY DON'T YOU JUST ANSWER ME LATER. OKAY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> NO QUESTIONS. >> NO QUESTIONS FOR ME. WHEN WE BROUGHT THE STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN TOGETHER, PILLAR TWO, FIXING ORDINANCES , THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BACK OF MY MIND FOR 10 YEARS, MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE A PERFECT EXAMPLE, HOTEL-MOTEL, THANK YOU FOR THE COLLABORATION. AGAIN , THIS IS GOOD GOVERNANCE . THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE THE DEPUTY MAYOR , THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AN EXTENSION OF THE COUNCIL. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BY DOING NOTHING, I WILL SAY THAT, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST ONE EXAMPLE, BUT OTHERS , COUPLE THINGS, ONE IS, ONCE YOU HAVE A DRUGE -- DRUG MARKET , DID YOU HAVE A STOLEN GOODS MARKET. TO THAT POINT ABOUT DUE DILIGENCE AND DUE PROCESS, WE WILL SHOW THAT THERE IS A CLEAR AND ENDURING NEXUS BETWEEN THESE PROPERTIES . THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN COMING TO ME FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE . I THINK THAT WILL BE SHOWN . I APPRECIATE THE OUTRAGE YOU HAVE DONE THAT . THE ONE LAST CHALLENGE, MAYBE THIS WILL NOT BE -- THIS OFTEN COMES UP, A CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY, GENERALLY, THE EXAMPLE IN MY MIND, THE QUEEN ANN EXAMPLE, ABSENT LANDLORD OR PROPERTY OWNERS. HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL HELP IN THAT REALM BECAUSE, THIS IS A CHALLENGE. I THINK, JUST TO CLOSE, THE EXAMPLE WE HAVE ON OUR VACANT BUILDINGS ABATEMENT BILL, IS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR US. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING FORWARD TO US. VICE CHAIR? SUPER QUICK. >> I UNDERTOOK LEGISLATIVE WORK TO LAUNCH MY OWN PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHICH HAVE BEEN COUNCIL GENERATED AS OPPOSED TO EXECUTIVE GENERATED, BUT THE EXECUTIVE BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH, WHICH IS TERRIFIC. I WANT TO CALL OUT THAT I WORKED WITH THE SEE THE ATTORNEY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE OF THIS, WE DO NOT JUST LAUNCH LEGISLATION , MINIMUM WORK GOES INTO IT AHEAD OF TIME, PART IS UNDERSTANDING THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE, OPERATIONAL LANDSCAPE, STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, AND A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, THAT IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, SO TO SPEAK , OF WHAT IS INVOLVED AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COLLABORATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON HELPING ME BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE, YOU ADVISED THE EXECUTIVE AS WELL AND I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY THIS IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE DOES. THIS IS NOT BY ACCIDENT. WITH THAT, WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THE AGENDA. ANY OTHER BUSINESS? >> I DO HAVE A PICE -- PIECE OF OTHER BUSINESS, IT GETS AT THIS ISSUE OF ENFORCEMENT , HOW OUR LAWS TAKE PLACE IN THE REAL WORLD. SHE HAS BEEN COMMENTING ON THE OTHER NUISANCE LEGISLATION WE HAVE CONCERNING NIGHTLIFE . BUSINESSES . SHE WANTS TO KNOW, FAS DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE WATCHING FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY FROM THE PEAK HOURS FROM 2:00 TO 5:00 AND WE NEED MORE CITY AND COUNTY LEVERS, WE CAN KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN WE ARE OPERATIONALIZING THIS , MORE CITY CONSULTANTS ARE NEEDED , CONSULTATION IS NEEDED WITH BUSINESSES, IN TERMS OF WHERE THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE IN WHICH BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING ILLEGALLY. NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND CAN BE AN ASSET TO THE CITY. FINALLY , MORE CONVERSATIONS COULD BE TAKING PLACE REGARDING LANDLORDS WITH PROPER PERMITS AND FOLLOWING THE LAWS IN GOOD FAITH . THEY CAN BE GREAT PARTNERS AS WELL. >> THAT GOES TO THE POINT EARLIER , ABOUT WORKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE TO PUT THESE PIECES IN PLACE . WE ARE DOING THAT, STARTING WITH RECRUITMENT, THE FIRE CHIEF , THE VACANT BUILDINGS, THE STREET RACING, ACROSS THE BOARD , PARTICULARLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PIECES , AND YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT, MS. GOODMAN MAKES A GOOD POINT, THE AFTER-HOURS ESTABLISHMENTS, GROWING PAINS , IF YOU WILL, PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE . WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING THE PRESSURE UP AND , SOMETIMES WORKING WITH COLLEAGUES TO ENSURE THAT THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE INTENDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, DEPUTY MAYOR , AND THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES , FOR THE EXTRA