Planning Commission Meeting - February 13, 2024
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1. CALL TO ORDER 0:46
1.1 Election of Officers 1:11
1.2 Appointment to Committees 2:11
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 3:25
3.1 Application for Conditional Use Permit and Variance to allow the construction of an accessory structure within the B-2 (Downtown Business) zoning district - 306-312 Oak Street - Continued 3:51
3.2 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to Construct a Storage Shed at 705 Willow Street (Dairy Queen) 5:15
3.3 Ordinance Amendments to Title 10, Chapters 2 and 5 of the Farmington City Code 9:57
4.1 2040 Comprehensive Plan Update 15:50
4.2 Open Meeting Law 1:12:12
5. ADJOURN
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[0:00] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
[0:28] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, we'll call the meeting to order. On behalf of the Planning Commission, I'd like to welcome our residents and viewers to this regular meeting of February 13th, 2024. On tonight's agenda, we have three public hearings and we have two discussion items. Before we get into anything on our agenda, first I would like to introduce our new commissioner, Mr. Mitch Nock. Welcome and thank you for serving on the Planning Commission.
[1:10] **Commissioner Mitch Nock:** Thank you.
[1:14] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And before we get into anything else, each year the commission selects its officers and volunteers to represent the commission on various committees that we have. To do this, I'll turn the meeting over to our planning manager, Mr. Tony Wippler. Tony?
[1:36] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Thank you, Mr. Chair, commission members. Yes, first and foremost, we must elect officers—the Chair and Vice Chair for the Planning Commission for this coming year. So with that, I will take a nomination for Chair.
[1:49] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll nominate Mr. Rody as Chair.
[1:52] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Do we have a second?
[1:54] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[1:55] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** All in favor?
[1:56] **Commissioners:** Aye.
[1:57] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** All right, thank you. And then at this point, I'll take a nomination for Vice Chair.
[2:00] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I'll nominate Christa Teske for Vice Chair, please.
[2:04] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll second that.
[2:06] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** All in favor?
[2:07] **Commissioners:** Aye.
[2:08] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** All right, thank you.
[2:09] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Tony, I'll take over for the appointment of the committees. As I mentioned, there are various committees that the commission members serve on as a representative of the Planning Commission. I'll go through each one of them briefly and explain what the committee is. The first one's the Empire-Farmington Planning Advisory Committee. In the past, Commissioner Winshuttle has represented us; he has volunteered to represent us again. There's a Castle Rock Discussion Group. Commissioner Leato, would you serve on that?
[2:46] **Commissioner Leato:** Yes.
[2:47] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And then there's a Eureka-Farmington Planning Group. Commissioner Teske, will you serve on that?
[2:52] **Commissioner Christa Teske (Vice Chair):** Yes.
[2:53] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And then there's a MUSA Review Committee. This committee is part of where the growth—they just discuss the growth and where it's going to occur, the extension of sanitary sewer for future development. Commissioner Snowback, would you serve on that with me?
[3:08] **Commissioner Snowback:** Yes.
[3:09] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, so those are the committee assignments. Tony, would you like a motion on those?
[3:14] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Yes, please.
[3:15] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Is there a motion?
[3:16] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion.
[3:17] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
[3:19] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[3:20] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second. Call the roll, please.
[3:23] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Teske? (Yes) Rody? (Yes) Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes)
[3:28] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, now we'll move into our agenda. We have the minutes from our regular meeting of January 9th, 2024. Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? If not, is there a motion?
[3:43] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Motion to approve.
[3:45] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I will second that also.
[3:47] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second to approve the minutes. All in favor say aye.
[3:50] **Commissioners:** Aye.
[3:51] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Any abstains?
[3:52] **Commissioner Mitch Nock:** Aye.
[3:53] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Okay, we have one abstention. All right, thank you. With that then, we'll open up the public hearings. The first public hearing is an application for a conditional use permit and a variance to allow the construction of an accessory structure within the B2 downtown zoning district. The address is 306-312 Oak Street. This is a continued public hearing from our January meeting. Tony, this will be a short one, right?
[4:17] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** This will be a short one, Mr. Chair. The applicant has changed their plans. They are looking to do a building addition versus a detached structure, so they have asked that the application be withdrawn. So the action requested this evening is to close the public hearing and to accept the withdrawal.
[4:39] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Okay. Tony, can we do that in one motion, or do you want that in two?
[4:43] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Let's do that as two, please.
[4:45] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right. Is there a motion to close the public hearing?
[4:47] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make that motion.
[4:48] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** We have a motion. Is there a second?
[4:50] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[4:51] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second to close the public hearing. Call the roll, please.
[4:54] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Rody? (Yes) Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes) Teske? (Yes).
[5:02] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** In front of the commission then is a request to withdraw the application for this CUP and variance at the address listed before. Is there a motion?
[5:10] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion.
[5:11] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion for a withdrawal. Is there a second?
[5:13] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[5:14] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second. Any more discussion? If not, call the roll, please.
[5:18] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes) Teske? (Yes) Rody? (Yes).
[5:24] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, we'll move into our second public hearing. This is a request for a conditional use permit to construct a storage shed at 705 Willow Street. The location is a Dairy Queen. The applicant is Mr. James Alpha. Jared, are you going to take this?
[5:40] **Jared (Assistant Planner):** Yes, thank you, Chair, Planning Commission members. So the question for you tonight is for a conditional use permit to construct a storage shed at 705 Willow Street, also known as Dairy Queen. The CUP is specifically to construct a storage shed on commercial property. City code requires any proposed accessory structure on commercial property, regardless of size, to go through the CUP process. Quick review: it would be an 8x12 storage shed in the northwest corner of the existing dumpster as you see here on this site plan. It would be set back 12 feet from the west property line and 18 feet from the north property line. There's 10-foot setback requirements from both these lines, so the storage shed meets that. It would be 9 feet 3 inches high and it does meet all other zoning code requirements. The CUP requirements—there are six of them. Staff believes this small project meets all of them. So the action requested for you tonight is to approve the requested CUP with the one following condition: that the storage shed must be anchored to the ground.
[6:45] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Okay. With us tonight is the previous owner, Mr. Paul Clemens. Paul, do you have anything to add to the staff report at this time?
[6:52] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** No, nothing.
[6:53] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Okay. You'll be available if there are questions? We'd appreciate it. This is a public hearing for a CUP. Are there any comments or questions from the audience? Seeing none, Commissioner Teske?
[7:10] **Commissioner Christa Teske (Vice Chair):** I do have just one quick question. I'm assuming it would be a locked shed then that sits out there, correct?
[7:16] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** Yes.
[7:17] **Commissioner Christa Teske (Vice Chair):** Okay.
[7:18] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** It is a locked shed is the answer. Anything else? Commissioner Leato?
[7:21] **Commissioner Leato:** I'm just curious if there's any additional lighting requirements for the shed, or if it's already covered by the existing property?
[7:31] **Jared (Assistant Planner):** There's no other lighting requirements that we would have, but it would most likely be lighted already from the property itself.
[7:37] **Commissioner Leato:** Okay, perfect. Thank you. That's all I have.
[7:40] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Commissioner Snowback?
[7:41] **Commissioner Snowback:** No questions.
[7:42] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Paul, I have a question for you. Can you please come up to this podium? The reason I ask is you have residential properties both to the west and a little bit to the north. Purpose of the shed?
[7:56] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** Just store a snowblower in there, lawnmowers, ladders, boxes of cups that we don't have room in the back storage area. General storage for brooms, mops, just normal stuff.
[8:13] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Will there be any lighting on the shed that might affect the residential properties?
[8:17] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** I don't think he's planning on any lighting.
[8:19] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** No lighting. Okay, that's fine then. I have no problems. I don't think there are any requirements for lighting, is that correct?
[8:27] **Jared (Assistant Planner):** No requirements.
[8:28] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Actually, I asked to see if there's going to be any lighting that may infringe on the neighbors. I know there's still some vegetation and a fence back there, right?
[8:40] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** Yeah.
[8:41] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, thank you, sir. Anything else? If not, I'd look for a motion to close the public hearing.
[8:51] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion.
[8:52] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** We have a motion. Is there a second?
[8:54] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[8:55] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second to close the public hearing. Call the roll, please.
[8:59] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Snowback? (Yes) Teske? (Yes) Rody? (Yes) Leato? (Yes).
[9:06] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And Paul, I failed to mention now there was a contingency that this shed would be anchored to the ground. Do you agree with that?
[9:13] **Paul Clemens (Representative for Applicant):** Yes.
[9:14] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Will the applicant agree with that? Okay, we'll follow through. If it doesn't, it's on you! All right, do you have to get a permit now, or is this the permit?
[9:24] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** This is it.
[9:25] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Just make sure that your son-in-law has it anchored somehow, some way. All right, thank you. The commission then is a request for a CUP for 705 Willow Street for a storage shed with one contingency which the applicant has agreed to. Is there a motion?
[9:45] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion for approval.
[9:48] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Is there a second?
[9:49] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[9:50] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second. Any more discussion? Not, call the roll please.
[9:55] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Teske? (Yes) Rody? (Yes) Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes).
[10:04] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right. Now we'll move into... thank you guys. Thanks, Paul, for coming. All right, we have ordinance amendments to Title 10, Chapters 2 and 5 of the Farmington City Code. Jared, you going to take this one also?
[10:19] **Jared (Assistant Planner):** Yes, got you busy this month, huh? Thank you, Chair, Planning Commission members. So at the November 2023 Planning Commission meeting, staff presented a laundry list of minor zoning code amendments for discussion. After receiving positive feedback from the commission, staff brought forward some of these zoning code amendments for approval at the January 9th Planning Commission meeting. This initial round of amendments focused on fixing spelling errors and edits to zoning definitions. The City Council did formally approve these amendments at their January 16th meeting. So this time around, staff is bringing additional zoning code amendments focused on zoning districts and uses. We’ll go through a summary of these proposed amendments: adding window tinting and service into the definition of "Auto Repair, Minor"; removing "Group Homes, Commercial" as an allowable use from the R2, R3, and R4 residential zoning districts; increasing the maximum lot coverage from 25% to 40% in the B1 Highway Business zoning district; adding mixed-use buildings and retail sales and services as permitted uses in the B1 Highway Business zoning district; replacing "Retail Facilities" with "Retail Sales and Services" as a permitted use in the B2 and B3 business districts (the 3,000 square foot requirement will also be removed from the B3 district); replacing "Dwellings, Multiple Family" with "Dwelling, Apartment" as a conditional use in the Spruce Street Mixed Use zoning district; removing hotels as a conditional use in the MUCI (Mixed Use Commercial Industrial) district; replacing "Dwellings, Multi-family" with "Dwelling, Apartment" as a conditional use in the MUCR (Mixed Use Commercial Residential) zoning district; removing "Retail Sales and Services less than 3,000 square feet" as a permitted use but keeping it as a conditional use without that 3,000 square foot requirement in the Mixed Use Commercial Residential zoning district. Staff has included a table of these amendments, which include the proposed rationale that was presented at the November meeting. If the commission has any questions on any of them, I'd be happy to respond.
[12:22] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Jared, I want to compliment you. We have a new member, and so there are a lot of acronyms. I remember years ago acronyms are one of the more difficult things to pick up. You spell them out in the future like you did here on your thing because it helps. So that you say, okay, Spruce Street—I know what that is, but when you see it as an acronym, maybe you don't exactly. We'll go through and see if there are any comments or questions and then we'll get back to you. Again, this is a public hearing. Are there any comments or questions regarding these ordinance amendments? Seeing none, Commissioner Leato?
[13:10] **Commissioner Leato:** No questions. It looks good, thank you.
[13:13] **Commissioner Christa Teske (Vice Chair):** Yeah, no questions here. I think it looks great.
[13:17] **Commissioner Snowback:** No questions, thank you.
[13:19] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Jared, I get to ask then. You know, the first time I read that one about increasing 25% to 40% in the B1, I go, "Why?" And then it kind of makes sense. But initially, I go, "What was the rationale? Was it something that maybe was too low before?"
[13:42] **Jared (Assistant Planner):** What it came down to is when we looked at the Trunk Highway 3 Corridor as part of that study, that came out as a recommendation. It allows for larger buildings on smaller parcels.
[13:58] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** It makes sense once I read it. At first I go, "Okay." The only other one that I had is, Tony, where did we ever come up with 3,000 square feet on that one? Why did we do that?
[14:14] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** That predates me. I really don't have an answer for you as to why or how we came up with that. It's been in the code probably since 2000 when we redid the code at that time, and I do not have a rationale as to why that number is what it is.
[14:45] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Yeah, it just creates a lot of additional barriers.
[14:48] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Yeah.
[14:49] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And your chart here was very helpful. When you read through it, it kind of explains what you're doing and why. I appreciate that, Jared. Thank you very much. All right, anything else from the commission? If not, I look for a motion to close the public hearing.
[15:10] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** So moved.
[15:11] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** We have a motion. Is there a second?
[15:13] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll second.
[15:15] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second to close the public hearing. Call the roll, please.
[15:18] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Rody? (Yes) Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes) Teske? (Yes).
[15:26] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** In front of the commission then is a recommendation to our City Council for ordinance amendments, Title 10, Chapters 2 and 5 of the Farmington City Code. Is there a motion?
[15:40] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion for a favorable recommendation to our City Council.
[15:44] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Is there a second?
[15:45] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll second.
[15:47] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second. Is there any more discussion? If not, call the roll, please.
[15:51] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Leato? (Yes) Snowback? (Yes) Teske? (Yes) Rody? (Yes).
[16:03] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right, we'll get into our discussion items. We now have a 2040 Comp Plan review update. Ms. Trap from HKGI is here to enlighten us on that. Welcome back.
[16:16] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Yeah, nice to see you.
[16:17] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Nice to see you. Remember, she was with us during a workshop that we had with our City Council a while back.
[16:25] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Rita Trap with HKGI. As you will remember, the last time we discussed the comprehensive plan specifically at the Planning Commission was last September. Lance Bernard was the staff we had been working with at that time; he's since left that position for another job. We're lucky enough that Rita stepped up and is helping us out. Because of that, there's been a little bit of a lag just with the transition from staff, but we're now at the point where we've started to look at the land use among other things. Rita is here to kind of give you an update on that.
[17:09] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Great, thank you. All right, it's great to see you again. I'm going to do just a few—it's always fun using a new computer! As we talked about in the memo, we're going to do just a real recap, short overview of why we're doing this since it's been so long since we've been together. What we really want to focus on this evening are the vision and guiding principles and strategies, and then the proposed land use. And then I'll touch just briefly on next steps. I do encourage you to ask questions along the way. I will pause at different points, but feel free to ask me questions as we move forward. Just a recap: the Comprehensive Plan Update process was undertaken because of a desire to update the community's vision to make sure that the vision set forth is really matching where the community is heading.
[18:43] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** There was a brand that was created: "Celebrating our past, boldly defining our future." There is a website page that was also created. We'll be working with staff on strategizing events and good ways to reach out to folks. That led to some of the common words used to describe Farmington. You can see a word cloud: "community," "connected," "downtown." Common phrases: "quality parks and trails," "more retail and jobs."
[21:02] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** This all was used to create the vision. This was the existing vision—I'm not going to have you read it all, but there was a lot to it. The vision that's proposed is a little bit more straightforward. The four guiding principles actually relate to the second sentence of this. The first guiding principle is about quality and sustainable growth. This really is focused on making sure that we have quality neighborhoods, embracing the plans for growth, and trying to recognize and protect the natural resources. I'd rather just stop and make sure that you have a chance—I did number these on page 29. In terms of quality and sustainable growth, did folks have concerns about any of them?
[24:21] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** You're on number one right? Quality and sustainable growth. Pages 29, 30, and into 31. More of a question for Tony: if you look at D and E, are our developers going to agree with that or is this going to be more of a forced situation where we "preserve, protect, enhanced woodland areas"? I know they want trees, but...
[25:10] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** More times than not, right? Keep in mind we do have a woodland tree preservation ordinance in place. When you're talking about wetlands and even the greenways, there are certain rules and regulations for setbacks. I think we're in a good position to continue to enforce those regulations already on the books. I think that's mainly what we're referring to.
[25:47] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I agree with them; it's just that sometimes what we agree to and want is maybe not exactly what the developer is looking to do.
[25:54] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** Yeah. I don't envision us necessarily adding more regulations towards that; we'll utilize the ones we have.
[26:08] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Are we on number two yet?
[26:11] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** 2B. When I read it, is that referring to density?
[26:22] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** It could be, but it also could be just having a diversity of housing types. You can have twin homes that have a similar density to a smaller-lot single-family neighborhood. So row houses, townhomes—those kinds of different elements.
[26:59] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** We've been doing a lot of that. There's been different—a number of our developments have that type of feel. You look at the Vitala that we've done, there's a mixture of homes in there. Even Fairhill.
[27:42] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** 3B. Isn't it already available to everybody?
[27:52] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** It is. A lot of these are just reinforcements. You can always do better if you are reminded of it every once in a while.
[28:18] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I assumed it was, but I wanted to verify it.
[28:28] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** The next guiding principle: "Complete and Connected Community." This is talking about having diverse, inclusive neighborhoods with a variety of businesses and parks. We're trying to get into the "people-centered" part—people feel connected to the community.
[29:17] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** 5C. "Enlist and encourage private sector participation in meeting the travel needs of the city's citizens and businesses." What does that mean?
[29:30] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** That can be things like working with Dial-a-Ride and making sure that there's those mobility ones. It also can be making sure if there's needs to support the private riding systems. It isn't always—and particularly here with transit—provided by the public; it's going to be provided by other entities, nonprofits or private.
[30:03] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Okay, thank you for the explanation.
[30:08] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Any other thoughts? Mitch?
[30:13] **Commissioner Mitch Nock:** Good, all looks good.
[30:15] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** On to "Vibrant and Resilient Economy." Supporting existing businesses but also trying to attract new businesses. Commercial districts. Any questions on seven or eight?
[31:07] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** No, they're just very important.
[31:13] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Opportunities and Investment. This last one is making sure the community is thinking towards the future, thinking about sustainability of the city and its work, and being proactive for future investments.
[32:21] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Right now, we ordered the guiding principles in the order of that vision sentence. If you think one should be first, second, or third, this is the time to influence that.
[33:07] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I think you have it ordered correctly. I don't want to discount commercial—it's after residential, but they both work hand-in-hand. To me, the last one is: "Okay, now City staff, City councils, all the commissions involved, go forth and do." I give that comment to Commissioner Winshuttle—not me—but that's what stuck out at me from last fall. Let's live our words, not just read them.
[34:11] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Land Use. I'm going to share some maps.
[34:57] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Can I ask a favor? What I like to do on land use—I like to look at "proposed" and "future" side-by-side. This was top and bottom. Significant change areas—I'd like to look side-by-side and say, "Okay, 195th and Flagstaff—here's what it is now and here's what it's going to be."
[36:04] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** I hear what you're saying. We can definitely do that. The biggest change is probably the downtown Mixed Use District. We are also identifying the land use for the orderly annexation area (OAA). In the past, that was just shown as "Orderly Annexation Area," but we felt it important to add an actual designation.
[40:03] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Downtown Mixed Use is a variety of uses: pedestrian-friendly commercial, office, residential, institutional, and limited small-scale manufacturing. Densities would be between 12 and 65 units an acre. Do you like it? Is this something the commission can support?
[43:03] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** We're on board with that. We have apartments above businesses downtown. What caught my eye was the small-scale manufacturing. Some of that off First Street I would call "light manufacturing."
[44:11] **Commissioner Leato:** Do you anticipate that the downtown would change drastically from its aesthetics? Because that's what draws people—the brick buildings.
[44:27] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** No, I don't see a wholesale change. Lots of places would wish to have this grouping of buildings.
[46:09] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Is this the only opportunity the commission is going to get to look at this specifically?
[46:16] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** No, this is the first draft. We certainly have to come back for a public hearing. We would also like to have the commission and Council get together on a work session.
[46:33] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I think that'd be a great idea. I'm not comfortable tonight saying everything you've got on "proposed" is what I agree with because I haven't looked at every parcel the way I need to. I want to zero in on 195th, Flagstaff, the Highway 50 Corridor, and Highway 3.
[49:15] **Commissioner Leato:** Is there a way to see the roadways a little bit more clearly? I don't know where Flagstaff is, for example. And for me, being a geographer, transportation is always a huge part. If it's possible to get those major roadways for orientation purposes.
[51:19] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** We can certainly do that for helping with the discussion.
[51:48] **Commissioner Christa Teske (Vice Chair):** Yeah, I think this looks great. It's going to take some time to digest it. I'm looking forward to the workshops with City Council.
[52:21] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** MUSA (Metropolitan Urban Service Area). This is where urban services—water and sewer—would be available. This map shows how we think about it into the future: 2020 MUSA, 2030 MUSA, 2040, and post-2040. We need to make sure that the MUSA line is such that it includes the area before we say it can be developed.
[59:16] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Does the orderly annexation bring in properties with MUSA at a different time frame?
[59:33] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** No, that was not part of that.
[59:38] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** And Rita, have you found MUSA being difficult to obtain from the Met Council?
[59:51] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** It depends on the community. We're served by the Empire treatment plant, which has more than adequate capacity to serve our community and the surrounding townships.
[1:00:39] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Good to hear.
[1:01:35] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** One other area: Focus Areas. These are areas A through F. They are post-2040 agricultural areas. We want to provide guidance for property owners without committing to a specific land use yet or blowing our Met Council projections. For example, "A" might be low density with a small node of high density at the intersection of Flagstaff. "C" along Highway 50 might be commercial frontage with residential moving south. Does this Focus Area approach make sense to you?
[1:09:14] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I would leave them in there. Tony, you always know where the "Green Acres" (Agricultural Preserve) are. Is there a map for that?
[1:10:04] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** We do have a map. It's an 8-year window from the time they ask to have that property removed from the program. I will remind the commission of that when the time comes.
[1:11:03] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right. Rita, could the commission get a copy of your slides and the maps?
[1:11:13] **Rita Trap (Consultant, HKGI):** Yes. I'll email the PDF.
[1:11:35] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** We have a resident here. Mr. Richardson, did you have any questions or comments?
[1:11:43] **Mr. Richardson (Resident):** No.
[1:11:46] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** All right. Rita, thanks for your "five minutes." We appreciate it. Tony, we'll move into our last discussion item, the open meeting law.
[1:12:18] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** I did provide a handout from the League of Minnesota Cities. It's just a refresher on the requirements you as a public body have to abide by. If you have questions, feel free to reach out.
[1:12:44] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** I appreciate that. Tony, was there anything else from staff?
[1:12:48] **Tony Wippler (Planning Manager):** I have nothing, sir.
[1:12:49] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Anything else from the commission? If not, I'll remind the commission and our viewers that our next regular meeting will be March 12th. With that, I'd look for a motion to adjourn.
[1:13:04] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** I'll make a motion to adjourn.
[1:13:06] **Commissioner (Unidentified):** Second.
[1:13:07] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** Motion and second. All in favor say aye.
[1:13:09] **Commissioners:** Aye.
[1:13:10] **Commissioner Rody (Chair):** This commission is officially adjourned. Thank you.
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