thank you everyone for joining I will now call to order the regular meeting of the Reno City Planning Commission today is Wednesday October 2nd 2024 and we are at the City of Reno Council chamber we'll begin with agenda item one the Pledge of Allegiance commissioner RM will you please lead us of the United States of America under God indivisible liberty and justice for all thank you closing agenda item one and moving to agenda item two Michelle or sorry secretary please get a roll call Harris Armstrong here Carrie rer here Manny Basera here Christine delv here JD draulic here Alex velto here Sylvia villan NOA here we have a quorum thank you closing item two and moving to item three public comment this item is for public comment on any action item or any general public comment members of the public may call into the meeting to provide public comment by using the zoom link provided on the agenda specifically h ttps colon links. reno.gov capital P capital c 1 0-02 d24 it should be noted for those in the audience that comments are to be addressed to the Planning Commission as a whole comments heard under this item will be limited to 3 minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the Planning Commission agenda please note that the Planning Commission may not take action upon any matter not agendized for possible action on today's agenda when you are called on for public comment please state your name for the record and begin speaking the timer will begin when you say your name and you will be afforded 3 minutes if you are an attendee in the zoom meeting and would like to make public comment at this time please raise your hand lastly while in this room please be respectful warnings will be issued by the presiding officer if there is disruptive behavior and you will be asked to leave Chambers if the behavior continues we do not have any request to speak forms voicemails or correspondents for this item thank you do we have anyone wishing to speak on Zoom we do not have anyone on Zoom okay great is there anyone in the Chambers wishing to speak under general public comment seeing none we'll go ahead and close item three and move to item four for possible action approval of the minutes from the regular City of Reno planning commission meeting on September 18th 2024 are there any questions extensions or discussion items from the commission seeing none I'll entertain a motion I'm sorry vill and wave I do have to abstain I was not understood thank you commissioner Villa commissioner velto same exstension understood thank you commissioner VTO commissioner roer make a motion to approve we have a motion commissioner delv second the motion we have a motion and a second all those in favor I I I I motion passes unanimously we will close item four and move to item five presentations and discussion we'll start with item 5.1 Council liaison update hello um council member Ebert for the record um I'm the uh city council liaison to the Planning Commission um just some high level um updates about uh city council agenda for you all um so um some of the priorities are affordable uh housing and availability um there's been as everyone knows a significant uh population increase over the last decade and uh increased demand for housing so the council is looking to expand affordable housing options through incentivized uh affordable housing developments and allocating funds towards lowincome housing projects um and also promoting density with uh infill projects um we're also looking into um zoning and land use conflicts um updates to Title 18 and uh just changes to reflect uh the city's uh needs um where things are incompatible um regarding uh land uses and um residential conflicts things like that um also updating regulations to address uh protection of neighborhoods when new development comes in um and also updating regulations to address negative impacts of industrial uses when located next to residential development um regarding uh noise lights and hours of operation um we're also working to increase communication with our partners uh at endot RTC and County um to um communicate better with um changes to our infrastructure and um things like timing with our traffic signals and uh coordinating projects so that um we minimize impact to um commuters and things like that so that is kind of our high level um Council priorities at this time oh also I wanted to share I did meet with um some planning Commissioners and um uh I I will be working with the city manager and other council members to try and put together um some more comprehensive plan for the City of Reno it's something that has been expressed by other council members and Planning Commission members that um you know we have a master plan that's a really um thick document that's that's kind of more high level um and there's been a lot of interest in in coming up with more of a um more detailed plan with the kind of development we'd like to see in the City of Reno um so that's something we're going to be looking into um how do we make that happen so um just at the beginning stages of that but just wanted to let everyone know so thank you thank you so much councilwoman uh we will now close item 5.1 and open item 5.2 presentation from the Reno Sparks Indian colony good evening Planning Commission thank you so much for inviting us to PR uh give you a brief presentation tonight my name is Candace Dole director of the planning and Community Development Department at the Reno Sparks Indian colony so tonight we thought we'd just give you a brief overview um where are we in the city um and where um where are development priorities over the next couple years and some of the challenges that we have in terms of planning long range as well as current planning C can we have you speak a little closer to the mic or pull that closer to you sure that better thank you thank you so tonight what I'd like to do uh for the Planning Commission members is talk about the location and growth of the Reno Sparks Indian colony talk about some of the current conditions on the colony and our surrounding areas uh give you a preview about our 20 240 comprehensive plan and then some of the development priorities for 2025 um as some of you may know uh the Reno Sparks Indian colony was established in 1917 um it was established with a purchase by the federal government we started basically on reservation road with about 19 acres and basically until about the 1970s 19 80s the renos Sparks Indian colony only had 28 Acres very small in comparison to other uh tribal governments that you would know about such as Pyramid Lake in about 1986 we expanded with a uh significant purchase in Hungry Valley that was about 19900 acres and then um in about 2016 with the um native Nevada Nations act we picked up about another uh 14,000 Acres and that was a huge increase um and so now today the renos sporks Indian colony has 15,69 Acres with most of it in Hungry Valley uh unincorporated wasel County we have a total enrolled membership of 1,342 and we have about 350 employees the map on your left basically shows where the original colony was in 1917 and then we picked up some property additional property north of second where we have our Residential Properties along Colony Road so as you can see um this this picture is today Back in 1970 this was all agricultural area um there were um Farm fields and it was considered sort of an ideal location in terms of uh tribal members being able to go either to City of Sparks or city of Areno this was all of course unincorporated Washo County so again 1917 and 1928 basically nothing changed for uh about 50 years and then the colony started purchasing Pro properties in the 1970s and 1980s if you look to your right it's basically the same picture any of the parcels that you see that are bounded in Orange those are the parcels that are owned by the Reno Sparks Colony today now I'm just showing the core area we obviously have other Parcels in verd South Virginia but just focusing now on the core Colony uh establishment area so we started to pick up properties uh west of golden Lane golden Lane is the city street but east of that is our reservation Road homes and then we started picking up properties north of second it's important to explain that there're basically two types of ownership we can have the properties that are in trust which means the federal government owns it on behalf of the renos Sparks Indian colony tribal trust land that's how we have our sovereignty in terms of independence from regulatory Authority whether it's building taxation but we also have Parcels that we own in fee fee simple and just like any other property owner within the City of Reno that fee parcel is subject to whoever the regulatory Authority is so when we have those fee parcels and we still have several of those in this area um we would still be um calling on the city Arena for code enforcement we would be uh submitting building permits to the city Areno uh for anything that's still owned in fee in terms of some of the challenges that we have as you probably are aware The Colony when it was established as I said was primarily agricultural unincorporated Washo County as time went on you start to see uh uses surrounding us uh along reservation Road north of second and this is the industrial zoning in within the City of Reno um I don't know if any of this was uh created with Washo County but as some of you may know we are a county Island so all of the core area of the Reno Sparks Indian colony was never annexed to City Areno we are still within unincorporated wasel County doesn't make sense but that's the way it is today but as you can see with the gray that's all the industrial zoning that surrounds us so to the West we have industrial zoning the parcels that we've picked up uh north of Colony Road Sunshine Lane those are all industrial um and then of course to the east you'll see the uh ramps for the SP SPX project um in addition we're uh bounded to the South by Mill Street and obviously to the north uh the bisect of the East Second which is the state highway so we have challenges um when we want to develop and that we have that existing industrial zoning which is really not going to change unless you have Property Owners coming into the city that want to change that industrial zoning but the one thing I want to want to mention is that over time as we purchase more properties in this area particularly as we started to purchase properties along the trucky River what we have done is basically redevelop those properties to remove those industrial uses uh particularly along the trucky River and the two great examples of that are the tribal house center at 1715 Conley which is sort of the uh white building building uh uh right next to the river that opened up in 2008 again those were all industrial Parcels along the trucky River that's what was done at the time and uh we started to redevelop those properties and remove the industrial uses wood storage Auto uses all of that um and that was also with the parcel surrounding tribal Health Center with the Walmart purchase that we started in the 1990s um that was obviously industrial uses um as well as the state restitution Center which is a six 6 acre parcel just east of Walmart again there was a lot of uh remediation that was going on these parcels and of course we worked out um remediation grant funding with the state of Nevada with the uh brownfields program but it's taken a lot of work to redevelop those Parcels when they've been so heavily industrial um over this time period and in terms of um coordination collaboration with City of Reno of course we inter in so many different areas whether it's Transportation uh whether it's regional transportation planning whether it's the trucky River we've been very involved in the trucky River Vision plan um because we see that as critically important and we obviously are a stakeholder um and really are sort of in the middle between Reno and Sparks um but some of the challenges are because we have the existing industrial Parcels existing zoning existing industrial land uses when things uh when people people come into the city for applications for site plan review for um conditional uses the city has to deal with existing zoning and we have to deal with the fact that we have residential homes next to Industrial zoning so as councilwoman Ebert was saying the issues about existing industrial Parcels that are zoned industrial they obviously have existing rights and we have our homes right next to those industrial Parcels so we see that um come up recently with the 100 Sunshine Lane this was just um Administration but a site plan review for storage of porta potties and um right next to our homes on Colony Road um we see it with some other land uses um so that's a challenge we have and of course the best control that we can have is to purchase those properties that would that would be the best way to to start um as we've done with other Parcels but that that's some of the challenges we have with our core area I wanted to also mention that um about two years ago we started a new comprehensive plan for the Reno Sparks Indian colony the last time a comprehensive plan was done for the colony was the year 2000 so um we're about 20 years out to start the work on a new comprehensive plan so we started this in 2022 and this was really sort of a traditional comprehensive plan we went out with a surveys the community members our employees um we you know tried to find out what the issues were we talked about Transportation Public Safety uh Recreation access to the trucky River and um we are sort of in the last stages this is still in draft form the tribal council has not adopted the comprehensive plan but we did sort of your traditional elements so we've done land use we've done Transportation we've done housing because that's a critical need for Colony members we don't have enough housing on the colony most people who are enroll members have to live off colony and um that's a challenge for Colony members as well as um anybody dealing with the housing market in today so this looking on the screen right now is a draft of the land use element of the 240 comprehensive plan and if you look starting at the North along the trucky River to your right you'll obviously see Walmart there um that would certainly stay tourist commercial but you also see our existing trucky River path I don't know if many of you know that but um we were able to bring Walmart in due to a partnership that we had with the trucky River flood Management Authority uh and Walmart where we all chipped in U millions of dollars to build that flood wall and Levy uh on the other side there many people don't even know the path is there but it's great there's Landscaping there and um we're always doing improvements and working with our partners um to going across the Interstate you see that what we're showing for the Sunshine Lane Parcels again we own all those Parcels I don't know if you can see it clearly enough but all the ones that have colors in them we're showing Community facilities which which makes sense we want to start having more of our government buildings next to the river um and what we hope is next year we're going to start planning for a new multi-purpose Justice Center which I'll get into in a minute but you're seeing Community facility as a land use proposed land use next to the trucky river between kitsy Lane and 580 you're also seeing proposed multif family again to address the housing needs that we have for our Colony members um basically no other change um for the rest of the colony uh you'll see our health center which is blue going west of kitsy lane and then you'll also see that we have green along the river and that's because even though we have the existing path on the Walmart parcel we have been working for you know almost seven eight years now with Regional Transportation Commission to construct a shared use path so where the path stops now at John Champion Park and you have to go across the river and the foot Bridge the design is to have a shared Ed path 10-ft path that would allow people to continue on the south side the river and go um under the under kky under 580 uh connect to our Walmart property and then actually continue on down to Grand Sierra Resort so um it's about 80% design and we hope that we can start moving this forward uh next year so those are some of the things that we're hoping with the uh comprensive plan again there's a great need to expand our community facilities there's a great need to improve access to the trucky River to have amenities at the trucky River to make it safer for people to walk and enjoy the tracky river and of course to have more uh riparian improvements along the trucky River uh new housing I talked about and then the expansion of our tribal Health Center our health center um opened up in 2008 and it's already uh overcrowded they need more space and they need more parking um and hopefully someday um we'll be able to expand further whether East or West we do own the parcel directly across the street of d um and we've been entertaining thoughts about possibly going to the city and asking for abandonment of right away of a street it's a culdesac doesn't go anywhere um and we've talked to the some of the Traffic Engineers about that but again that's the draft land use element again it hasn't been adopted yet by Tribal Council but just want to give you a sense of of what we're looking at um this year in the next 16 years so in terms of the development priorities for next year 2025 um the big big news for us is that we've received um almost $2 million from the Department of Justice to finally start constructing a multi-purpose Justice Center this is something that has been designed we have great plans that were done many years ago but we've never gotten a location for it so right now um the intent where you saw the blue the community facility between kitsy and 580 uh two Sunshine Lane also formerly known as the oxboro site that's where we we be developing a new Justice Center basically to house our Tribal Police um our human services and our tribal court right now all three departments are in old and um not very pleasant old manufactured buildings so it's time to move those departments out into a multi-purpose Justice Center with more coordination better design better facilities for the employees and a great location for our Colony members um so we're looking forward to start designing on that uh master plan for all the Sunshine Lane Parcels because as you know Sunshine Lane it goes into a culdesac and we're not sure that that makes the most sense if we're going to be looking at government center community centers open space um Recreation um so we don't know if we want to look at changing the design of that again we own all those Parcels we obviously do not have jurisdiction over a Sunshine Lane as it at culdesac but looking at all those options in terms of what's going to make sense it's a very exciting time to be looking at that I mentioned Justice Center facility master plan our 6 acre parcel this is a parcel that's just east of Walmart so we picked that up uh when there was a big swap with AB 299 many years ago and again this was where the state restitution Center used to be located we did a swap went through the state legislature the State regist registration Center moved over to the southeast Corner that nice transitional housing building um we were involved in constructing that and so now we have the opportunity to develop that 6 acre parcel likely it's going to be some kind of commercial tourist commercial use the other big priority again is the trucky River shared use path we have to get started on that we have to have better management of the trucky River along our parcels and we have to make it U more accessible to our Colony members as well as the general public so with that those are some of our priorities um we have a lot um of things that are going to be hitting uh the calendar in the next couple of months and we're excited to finally have some more resources to start doing this Master planning um as well as actually implementation um not only buildings but also the comprehensive plan so that is where we are at the Reno Sparks Indian colony and again I want to thank you um the Planning Commission for inviting us to give this short presentation thank you unless you have any questions thank you yeah we'll bring it back to the commission does anyone have any questions commissioner B sure um thank you so much for being here with us this evening um that was really insightful um one question I do have is are there areas uh or particular projects that come to mind that you think we could be a better or more effective um governing board uh to the RSC I think going forward we're going to have more challenges um along the trucky River okay um as I said we were very involved in the trucky revision plan and it's how do we um help to move forward the vision and the implementation of that trucky verion trucky Riv Vision plan um one thing that you know we noticed is that when there are discretionary permits that are coming along uh along the trucky River Corridor we certainly want to take the opportunity if we're being noticed for discretionary permits whether it's a major deviation um if there's opportunities to do more screening um more um buffering of some of those uses that exist that are not compati with a trucky revision plan um we would be advocating for that um and we did that last year in terms of the Waste Management Facility so I think that's one thing um we're already coordinating on so many different ways with Transportation Planning uh pedestrian safety Vision zero um obviously the 2050 Transportation plan um we're heavily involved with OT so we're into we're into lots of different areas and um but I would say the trucky provision plan to to you know help move that forward uh with all our partners including City Reno fantastic and just to follow up there uh Candace um you mentioned something about uh an abandonment of a road is that correct are you getting the support or help you need from the city to explore the possibilities there right we and of course we have not gotten a formal um resolution but I know our tribal Health Center which is right there would be interested because since drro doesn't really serve anyone except Renos Sparks Indian colony we own the properties on both sides of J and I just a cuaac there is a storm uh uh storm water that goes underneath that road we would not obviously uh impinge on that but it would give us more control in that area um there's a lot of times where that culdesac um sort of invites um activity um that is not necessarily positive so we think that might be something that we would want to um submit to the city for consideration if it's approved by a tribal council okay fantastic maybe our illustrious City staff manager to my right can assist you with that and others great uh any further questions in the commission seeing none we can move to discussion does anyone have an item for discussion commissioner rmay please I just wanted to thank you for coming I found this fascinating I you know you can live in Reno for decades and not really understand the boundaries parcels and the relationship and I learned a great deal thank you so much thank you app any further discussion from the commission commissioner villanea I just want to Echo uh commissioner Ro Meers comments thank you for coming and speaking to us today you thank you commissioner uh I'll go ahead and Echo the same sentiment really appreciate your informative presentation and look forward to potentially collaborating in the future however we can thank Youk you and before we close item five uh commission or sorry councilwoman eert if I may call you back uh I think I let you off the hook a little too early I believe the commission may have some questions or comments so apologies for that yeah so bringing it back to the commission do we have any questions commissioner Villa hi uh councilwoman thanks for the update I know recently that the there was a vision plan or something was passed uh with regard to the river can you touch on that a little bit because I don't think we've gotten a presentation on that I think at the last meeting there was a presentation coun yeah so we did um get a um it was a river plan that included some parks um and turning the area in front of the believe sign into a green space and kind of activating a lot of the river space downtown um which you know I think that we want to do but I'm not necessarily sure when we'll have the funding to do that so um it's it's a a plan that we've accepted but not necessarily something we'll be able to to do everything that's in there um I could bring kind of a a presentation uh more specifics on that to the next Planning Commission meeting um but um we're not going to be able to do all of all of what's in the plan okay thanks we could probably just have one of the Consulting companies that you guys use present the plan so thanks thank you you any further questions from the commission any discussion items from the commission please uh this is commissioner delr again thank you so much for bringing this up you and I have had conversations about um you know the master plan which is you know quite quite a bit old and to your point very very thick um and I think that with the influx of the population that Reno has seen over the past decade it's important to are looking a little more closely at some of these areas so I appreciate that the council is taking that into consideration and um hopefully that will help a lot yeah thank you yeah I just want to concur with that I'm actually really excited to hear about that project I think it'll be really helpful for us and look forward to just learning more about it and being helpful where we can uh any further discussion items okay we can now close the item and thank you again councilwoman for your time we'll now move to item six public hearings start with item 6.1 lc2400 65 Virginia Village Self Storage this item has actually been postponed so I don't believe we'll be having any public comment or hearing I just wanted to disclose that it was postponed so that will actually close item 6.2 or sorry 6.1 and move to item 6.2 LDC 24-4 Starbucks Fire Creek Crossing uh any person who has chosen to provide his or her public comment when a public hearing is heard will need to so indicate on a requested speak form provided to the secretary alternatively you may provide your comment when item three public comment is heard at the beginning of the meeting with that we will take a presentation from staff hello good evening members of the commission for the record my name is Leah pakati and I am an associate planner with the City of Reno development services this evening I am presenting an application for a new Starbucks with a drive-thru at Fire Creek Crossing the subject property is located within the Fire Creek Crossing shopping center which is um on essentially at the intersection of kitsy and Redfield overall the parcel is 16 I'm sorry 17.65 Acres but the project site is only .91 and I'll show you exactly where that is here in just a second the request that we're looking at today is a restaurant with a drive-through facility within 300 ft of a residentially zoned property the building and the drive-thru are existing but here you can see that the whole place is within the mixed used zoning district and it's right here on this corner where the Boston Market has been for the past 23 years it did trigger residential adjacency but it's pretty far away okay let's see here so the residential adjacency is this mf30 parcel that even though the whole parcel is within 300 ft the actual project s is about 1250 ft from that residential zoning District so you'll notice under our key issues um we looked at overall site design traffic access and circulation and Public Safety so looking at the overall site design this is an existing building with an existing Drive through uh what the applicant is asking for is to expand that existing drive-thru to allow for 10 cars behind the ordering kiosk and 17 cars total behind the payment window just to give you perspective that's about double what code would generally require and then the other thing that we've asked for here is that this intersection over here be striped and with arrows so if we get a little closer to look at that we're asking that they stripe that intersection to say Do not block there we heard from some public comments saying that that was routinely blocked and they asked that we remedy that and so we're going to stripe that with a do not block and then we're going to add some arrows defining that there are in fact two lanes here and that one lane can go straight and one lane can go straight or it can turn into the shopping center on the board are the conditional use permit findings the staff found that the location compli with RMC and the purpose of the zoning District it is compatible because it is located within an existing shopping center public services and utilities are available again it's an existing building and the characteristics are compatible with the types of uses being that this is located in the urban Corridor and the convention Regional Center area and it's not going to be materially detrimental to the public health safety or welfare of the public that concludes my presentation recommended motion is on the board and I'm available for questions thank you thank you very much appreciate it do we have a presentation from the applicant uh good evening uh Mr chairman members of the commission my name is Frank Kota I am a principal in The Firm of Greenberg faroh We're The Architects and Engineers for the project uh first off I want to thank Leah for I don't know if I can follow that presentation with a better uh synopsis but she did a great job and uh I'll go through basically everything is that was in the staff report in terms of uh our depictions of the building there's not much to add to it there is some renderings that I might get to at the end but yeah I'm really here just to ask any questions uh that you may have that said as Leah pointed out uh the Red Dot is our specific Boston Market existing facility that we're going to convert to the proposed drive-thru Starbucks full Cafe third place as they like to call it uh if you've been following the news our new C I'm actually an outside but the new CEO is big on the creating the third place in fact we had to redesign the interior at the last minute in the last two weeks because it wasn't a big enough Cafe that being said uh it will be a nice place this will also we will close the uh existing Starbucks across the street uh and move over to here so it's it's a replacement for that one uh again the site plan is noted we will be adding trees along Fire Creek Crossing and kitsy Lane we do have some tree removals it's also covered in the staff report and we will be complying with the condition regarded that regarding that uh and and again you can see we expanded this drive-through Lane the other thing of note uh if you've been there there's a bus stop along kitsy there's a little path that just goes to the parking lot and stops so we're going to extend that obviously it gets to our building and hopefully then people I did observe uh when I was there a few times people just walking willy-nilly across the parking lot to get to the shopping center I know we can't control people but at least there's a safe path at least to our store and over to the uh to the drive that crosses uh that they can continue on uh again this is a little bit outdated now this was the floor plan we will have a patio outside as well as the interior Cafe and then of course the back of house and and where they serve the coffee which they they call the engine in case you want to know some Starbucks terms uh this is the rebranding of the uh building um pretty straightforward but obviously we wouldn't want to continue the Boston Market look uh and this is the 3D version looking at the front of that from the corner uh we actually are going to there is one of the comments from the police department was to remove some of those stones that uh are easily thrown at people and used as perhaps damaging Goods uh or people or what have you so we will be redoing the majority of the Landscaping along both Fire Creek and kitsy with not only the trees but the ground cover to help that I did I went back out there today just to make sure there are some large Boulders that I probably will incorporate into the the final design I don't think anybody can lift them up so there'll be a mixture of but they the goal is to get rid of those nice size Pebbles or Stones you could chuck at someone uh again another view uh uh where that we're going to Rebrand uh that's the drive-through bump that exists today we'll reskin it as shown a view of the inside and kind of the before and after proposed and uh existing that's really all I have for a presentation and again here for questions if needed great thanks so much we'll bring it back to the commission uh sorry the Commissioners for disclosure commissioner Villa please start familiar with the site commissioner rera uh familiar with the site commissioner Ro Meer same commissioner delvar familiar with the site commissioner valto same disclosures commissioner Dracula same disclosures uh commissioner Armstrong same disclosures um sorry we'll now move to public comment I don't have any request to speak forms do we have anyone wishing to speak via Zoom doesn't look like we have anyone raising their hands okay do we have anyone in the Chambers wishing to speak on this item seeing none I'll close public comment and bring it back to the commission for questions commissioner Villa thank you can we go um sorry may we have the applicant come up and I the materials that were used they were probably were they your materials I just want wanted to pull up the maps um because I had a question about the drive-thru I just didn't understand um so okay so the width is going to happen or the the ex that um the width is that already in place because I'm looking at these Google images and the width of that entry point is that currently in existence or that's going to be established where the the cars would enter the drivethru that is not currently the situation it actually you you today would enter I don't know if we probably we I don't have a close enough that's okay I'm looking at the Google Maps but so you if you want to so right now if you see those accessible spaces you would go to the oh somebody's remote uh you would go to the end of that drive and then you would enter the uh existing drive-thru so oh so it's going to be expanded the length end correct yes okay maybe I can just shed some lights so so basically what's existing right now is where that intersects from two lanes into one okay so what they're adding is the two lanes coming off of that and then that additional Landscaping there I see okay and the so where was the part that you said people were concerned about the do not block that's up on the Fire Creek Crossing um it's Fire Creek Crossing Road it's the entryway just uh to the north of the site oh okay so so that's a four-way intersection into the shopping center um you'd go right to go to the where the current Starbucks is you go straight up into there and so what tends to happen what I've heard in during public comment was that um people will pull out trying to turn and they can't turn and then they end up blocking the intersection so people can't get through oh yeah I can see that happening okay so just a preventative measure and so this would double the it would go from you said 10 cars to how many cars 50 so it was about five cars before and it's going to go to 10 cars now okay well I I guess it does I mean how do you even enforce that because people are just going to line up even so so we can enforce it through our conditions of approval and this is one of those things that we look at when we're doing these discretionary reviews for drive-throughs and you know we we of course consider that certain drive-throughs um may have longer lines than other drive-throughs so we have standards within RMC that require that there be 100 ft of stacking which at approximately 20 ft of car is about 5T back from the window where it's ordered and then 140 ft from where you make your payment so approximately five cars back it's essentially doubling that so it's 10 cars okay well I guess the neighbors would I mean that's a commercial center so if there was it was problems you'd probably hear from it from the neighbors compared to some other locations that we've seen even if this does back up back out it backs out into the parking lot and it still wouldn't be blocking the main road or anything like that and we do appreciate that okay thank you thank you commissioner do we have any other questions from the commission commissioner delv yeah so I'm just curious in terms of some of the traffic studies that were done like when do they anticipate the majority of traffic going through the drive-thru is that um I don't necessarily have an answer for that off the bat but I can check and look at what the engineering department wrote down for that okay but I'm going to assume that it's probably going to be more in the AM traffic okay thank you commission dulich I don't want to forget you out there on Zoom did you have any questions no questions at this time thank you for thinking of meion uh commissioner B Sure uh hey Leah one for you um seems like you all got your uh Ducks lined up here um I was just curious if two two parts if uh if this was actually closer to that residential would would you all be looking at it a little differently analyzing a little differently or raise certain concerns that we would want to keep in mind definitely so we have um article 14 of Reno municipal code and basically what that says is its residential it's residential adjacency standards but they only apply if the actual site is within 300 fet so even though the site plan review is required for the residential adjacency the specific residential adjacency standards only apply if you're within 300 feet essentially okay gotcha so definitely yeah thank you and so the the existing Starbucks will it stay open to to kitty corner I know my understanding is that that is closing and this is replacing that one gotcha and then the last one and I can see my fellow commer to my left might have a follow up here but um uh how much coffee is enough well it depends on who you're talking to I mean me I'm I'm highly caffeinated so no just depends on the day I guess just a fun question thank you than you your commission vill and NOA thanks I was just gonna say that was that's a good question to have on the record like you know why we're looking at this differently um with the residential being so close and I think it is I think that's why it is important to look at these from a very fact-based perspective because I mean yes the parcel is near residential but the I the applicants project site is obviously not going to be problematic so good to have on the record thank you commissioner exactly and it wouldn't make sense for us to build a six- foot wall you know masonary wall there when it's not going to actually mitigate any kind of issue so any further questions from the commission hearing none we'll move to discussion do we have anyone wishing to speak on discussion commissioner VTO uh commissioner VTO I'm ready to make a motion I will entertain a motion uh in the matter of case number LDC 25- 00004 Starbucks uh Fireside Crossing based upon compliance the applicable findings I move to approve the conditional use permit subject to the conditions listed in the staff report and I can make all the findings we have a motion do we have a second commissioner rire second we have a motion and a second all those in favor I I motion passes unanimously good luck with your project we will now close item six and move to item seven training on the roles and responsibilities of the Planning Commission good evening Commissioners for the record Angela fous assistant director for development services so our our goal kind of starting tonight is to do regular trainings with the Planning Commission on a series of different topics so we're going to start with roles and responsibilities this is kind of planning 101 for what is the role of Staff what is the role of the NAB what is the role of the Planning Commission and what is the role of the city council so this shouldn't take too long um big picture I kind of wanted to walk you through what regulations the Planning Commission looks at you know do you look at a building code when you're looking at decisions are you looking at zoning codes um and and help you understand what the process entails so not every project comes before Planning Commission you guys are aware that we do probably about 10,000 building permits a year thank goodness you don't review all 10,000 you would never leave so um there is a separate process for building permits versus what staff reviews versus what Planning Commission reviews so we're going to go over all of that at a high level again we're talking about land use there's basically three different documents that kind of um cover everything that the Planning Commission gets to see and deal with at the very highest level it's our trucky Meadows Regional plan so that's a plan that's adopted by all three agencies they come together Reno Sparks was County and come up with really the vision of the region so they don't set standards to say you shall do this or you can do that they set big picture policy in terms of this is where we're going to have industrial areas or this is where we're going to have our downtown core areas below that is within the City of Reno our master plan this is the master plan that I I think uh Miss Ebert referenced tonight this plan was adopted back in 2017 I will say we went through a a multi-year process with a consultant and a a large um stakeholder Outreach process to get that adopted plan the previous master plan was very very old and Antiquated if any of you had seen it I mean it was probably done on a typewriter it was so old so this is definitely Leaps and Bounds um a huge benefit to this city to have that not only does it have kind of high level policy it also has some great photos and great Maps so it's um it's it's easy to to read and look at a lot of our technical documents are super boring and dry and Technical but the the reimagine Reno plan really tries to set the policy framework for the City of Reno and then finally the the things that we deal with the most here at the city and the planning department is our zoning code so that is a very large document I think we're up to 660 Pages Which is less than what we had with our previous zoning code so that's a good thing but it's a big document covers a lot of very specific rules and regulations now this is the document that pretty much sets the framework for everything we do within the planning department this tells us how many parking spaces are required how big those parking spaces have to be how many trees are required how big those trees have to be so it is very much a document that has rules and regulations and standards at a high level we get a lot of questions about just development in general so I wanted to kind of walk you through how does development work so let's just take an easy example let's say Taco Bell wants to come to Reno they would start by saying okay is my use allowed I'm I'm a restaurant and I want to have a drive-thru so I look at our zoning code and I figure out what zoning District I'm going to and then I go to a table and figure out okay drive-throughs are allowed in that zoning District great restaurants are allowed in that zoning District great so then I go to next step how is the site designed you work with your Consultants your engineers your your planners your civil engineers Traffic Engineers um and and they put together a plan of actually how the site itself is going to be designed especially when we're dealing with things like drive-throughs we have to look at well where are people going to back up well what happens if more than five cars are there how are we going to account for that so all of that is taken into consideration really at that site design stage and then we get to the building and that's where the architect comes in and Designs the building the the majority of that work is done um in coordination with our building department they're the ones that review the building codes not within the planning department so you guys really don't see a lot of those rules and regulations there's thousands of pages in building codes thank goodness we don't have to review that because that is a very technical um document we only have to deal with our 660 page zoning code next then we go to the question of okay designed my site now let me figure out if I need an entitlement because if you need an entitlement you either have to go through a 30-day review before I can submit for a building permit or a longer review if it's just a conditional use permit that adds another three months if I need a zone change first that adds another four or five months if I need a master plan Amendment for first add another 6 to 7 months so all of those things are reviewed at that entitlement stage so you get all those approved Next Step then is you submit for your building permit get that approved you build your building and then you come forward with a business license and our business license department has all their own rules and regulations on how we regulate businesses so from um a day-to-day perspective when an entitlement comes in for review so these are the things that you guys look at the conditional use permits and the zone changes is here's kind of a layout of what happens the application is first submitted now we take City uh the city takes applications twice a month so there's only two times in a month where you can submit it's essentially every two weeks so you submits your application the next step is the city staff routes it around for agency review we have a list it's an email list that we send it out to there's probably gosh 20 or 30 different agencies that review it and that is everything from Tuma to waso County to the Department of Wildlife to the fire department so they all take a look at it and review it kind of within their purview things that they're looking at next then we also send out what we call a courtesy notice this is just a postcard that gets sent out that notifies the neighbors anyone within 750 ft that an application has been submitted gives them a heads up in case they want to review it tells them when the NAB meeting is going to be scheduled and when the Planning Commission is going to be scheduled it also gives them a link so that they can go online and review the application material so that that's kind of a unique process to us not all jurisdictions do that that is not required by state law again it's a courtesy notice so that's just something um our Council had to start to implement probably four or five years ago so it gives us an additional round of public review once we get through that um we work with the applicant we work with all of the agencies that reviewed it we listen to their comments and their concerns we also have this go to the NAB where the NAB provides comments and then the staff works with the applicant and we have we put together a list of things that we have concerns with things that we want changed now this is a step that I don't know that all of Planning Commission understands this whole process before it even gets to Planning Commission typically is a two to three month process I think most people think oh we just take it an application write a staff report boom done stamped good to go no there is a lot of review and there is a lot of changes that go through that process we have projects that take months to get through rounds of reviews multiple rounds of reviews so it is definitely not a rubber stamp we spend a lot of time researching what does the code say does it make sense here how are we dealing with things like residential adjacency does that meet the intent and so there's a lot of back and forth between City staff and the applicant to revise the plan to get to the point where we actually write a staff report in that staff report we also list out conditions of approval so these are things that are above and beyond what you would see if you just submitted a building permit and this kind of gives you guys a little bit more flexibility to say h okay I think we should also add 10 more parking spaces for these reasons or I think you should put in some more trees over in this area and those conditions of approval again are specific to that site so if the um ownership changes those conditions still stand it doesn't matter who submitted it at the end of the day it lives with that Land once that staff report's written conditions of approval are written it then goes to Planning Commission so understand there is a lot of of work that goes into any application that comes before this group we we've had questions in the past of well who else reviews and provides comments like I mentioned before we send it out to probably 20 to 30 different agencies a lot of times agencies don't respond because they don't have an impact the airport typically only responds if it's something in the flight path or something that's going to be a tall building right those are the things they're concerned about the Indian colony typically would only respond with something in writing if it's something adjacent to or close to land that they owned School District typically only responds if it's a a residential development they're worried about number of students and so they review it if there's kids involved they also review schools that are not wasow County School District that are privately owned and they provide feedback to that as well so again this is just a tiny little um snapshot of a couple of the different agencies but know that it goes out to a ton of different people um that have the opportunity to to provide feedback and comment so let's talk about the role of the NAB a lot of people think that the NAB actually makes a vote a recommendation of approval or denial they do not the NAB only gets to provide comments they get to provide feedback now the the great thing about the NAB it is it's also a community Forum so the NAB meets once a month development projects get scheduled um different from Planning Commission when we have nabs it's the applicant that takes the lead on presenting at this point in the process staff has not done a deep dive and has not done a thorough review so staff is there to answer questions like well when does this go to Planning Commission and you know how many parking spaces do you require so they staff's there to answer questions but it's not specific to hey here's a deep dive and here's the conditions we've come up with what do you guys think it literally is super high level a chance for the neighbors and anyone that wants to attend that NAB to see what the project is and to ask questions and then once we get through that again the role of the Planning Commission very different so you guys serve as an Advisory Board pretty much on anything related to Planning and Development couple things that you guys are responsible for um land decisions making sure that it's consistent with our zoning code and our master plan so you may think wow if we're making these decisions shouldn't we be subject matter experts on your zoning code in your master plan no um you are not required to actually do a deep dive of our zoning Cod or our master plan highly encourage you to at least be familiar with what's in it um so that you can better and understand your role but you don't have to be a subject matter expert to sit on this commission you know you may sell life insurance you think well why are people selling life insurance sitting on the Planning Commission why are they making land use decisions because you represent the community as well right we have staff that is supposed to serve as the subject matter expert you guys serve at a higher level really just advising and to see if it makes sense the other benefit of a Planning Commission is it really provides that additional public form so anyone that wants to provide feedback maybe they weren't able to go to the NAB or they didn't know about it they can always come to Planning Commission and provide feedback and that helps to kind of formulate your guys's decisions now for the most part decisions that come to you stop at you if it's a conditional use permit it stops here if it's tentative map stops here major site plan review stops here um there's a number of other types of applications that only go to councel they don't come before you and there's a number of different applications that you guys just make a recommendation to council but they always go to council so let's talk a little bit more about that city council now they are the ones who are tasked with all of the policy Direction um you know if if we have a new policy that says from now on we want a fire station located four minutes from every single parcel in the City of Reno they set that policy decision they also adopt the budget so anything that requires changes to our staffing changes to how we process things requires city council decisions the challenge I think we find a a lot of times is um when we have a project like live entertainment you guys had a case recently where there was a conditional use permit they wanted to have music at night um we we've had complaints from our downtown residents of why aren't we enforcing noise I will tell you we don't pay code enforcement to work at night we only pay code enforcement to work during the day now it's a city council decision if they want to start changing the budget augmenting our budget to have our code enforcement team go out of at night and enforce night noise so the challenge is you guys get to make land use decisions to say yep we want somebody to look at night noise and and activities but from a a budgetary perspective Council has to make those decisions couple different types of applications that you guys don't ever see and that only go to council one would be an annexation so this is basically saying these are the the parcels that we want the city to now um to be a part of the city from a financial perspective anything that's annexed we now have to provide Police Service and fire service so there is a huge financial decision anytime we Annex land if it's not within the city it is not our responsibility when 911 gets called not our problem but once it's annexed it becomes our financial responsibility um the other thing is again they they they serve a different role right they are elected you guys are appointed so they're they their decision making um often times they have to weigh the decisions of their constituents where again you guys are more of a land use decision group now the big thing anytime you guys make a decision is the goes back to the findings and every different type of application has different findings but generally speaking they cover the same things right is this use compatible does this proposed project follow our development standards do we have public services and facil fa ities is there sewer lines water lines police and fire are they readily available and the last one is is this project detrimental to the public health safety and Welfare now there's a fine line between saying well they don't have sewer service today because it's vacant so I'm going to deny this project because there's no sewer line there today no there there's no sewer line to any project that's vacant um the thing we have to look at is do they have the ability to serve and put in sewer line traffic's probably one of the more challenging ones so I know we had a case recently where um commissioner Basera brought up concerns about traffic now I would suggest anytime you bring up concerns and are recommending approval or denial make sure you tie it back to the findings of the case you may say um I just disagree with the traffic study I feel that maybe they didn't do it correctly or it's not accurate they're not addressing their concerns that would be more of an I feel comment those comments get us into trouble so I suggest you don't use the I feel type comments when making decisions you tie it back to something concrete to say based on the traffic study it shows that this project will generate a level of f of um level of service F meaning um below where we we are comfortable serving now just because it's level F doesn't mean you have to deny it the question is are they mitigating their impacts so it may the traffic study may show hey with this project there's going to be traffic concerns have they done things to actually address traffic are they putting in traffic lights are they putting in acceleration Lanes or turning Lanes those are the kind of things you should bring your findings back to so again encourage you to whether you're approving a project or denying a project or offering up different conditions make sure that you take the emotion the feeling out of it and go back to the the basis of facts and findings to say what can I tie it to in this that again if we get sued we can back it up to say here is the reason why Planning Commission chose to approve it or to deny it so let's talk about a couple other things um just raise your hand if you agree does the the way a project is financed matter should would be asking well how are you getting funding who's paying for this what bank are you using no we cannot be asking those questions it means nothing what about I just I just just want to know like what else are you going to do why are you doing this you know where did the vision come from does that matter no vision does not matter and I will tell you all the pictures up here were somebody's really cool Vision that we approved that went nowhere um The Challenge we continue to run into whether we're talking to planners or talking to development teams that come in with great ideas every day and talk to staff about what they want to do or they go to Planning Commission with these cool projects great pictures or they go to City Council um there is no requirement that they actually have to build them right they get an entitlement that entitlement expires at some point half the time most of the projects we see anymore um never turn out to be these cool ideas and and and there's there's reasons for that so some of them may just have you know grandiose ideas but they didn't really think about the cost to build it other ones the the market conditions have drastically changed you know a lot of these projects that were in our downtown were to the major recession back in 20072 2008 and so that there was a lot happening there was a lot of money being financed everywhere and then the world crashed financially and all of these projects were halted and stopped I think the the challenge too is labor workforce um the cost of construction you know one day the cost of construction could double from what you had planned in your performa from six months ago we look at everything from Timber to concrete um one thing I don't think we realize too is anytime some big projects are coming to Reno and being built like schools we have a couple new schools being built that sucks the labor force out of the construction market so if you are trying to build something at the same time we have three major schools being built now the cost for you to develop your little project has probably tripled because the labor force is now going to other projects and they're going to charge you a lot more than they did before when they didn't have as much going on so so many of these things are out of everybody's control and so when we ask you know show me what your vision what are you doing I I would just caution you that um we always get disappointed and another great example is when we look at zone changes you shouldn't be asking what project are you going to build with it a lot of times developers will come I'm going to do a zone change from commercial to Industrial and I'm going to build this really cool industrial project here's my pretty pictures I'm thinking we're going to have like Yogurt Beach there 2 Hour Fitness there right like okay the neighborhood gets involved and the neighborhood gets excited and says I would love to have Yogurt Beach and 24-Hour Fitness in my neighborhood so the zone change is approved guess what things changed maybe the developer couldn't make it pencil anymore he sold it it is forever now zoned industrial so anybody can come in now and build industrial nine times out of 10 they're not building the Yogurt Beach and the 24-Hour Fitness they're probably building a big industrial Warehouse that operates 24 hours a day with bright lights and trucks it's now all those neighbors that said well I supported the zone change because you told me I was going to get a Yogurt Beach no at a zone change we cannot condition we cannot require anything all they get is a yes or no vote so again be cautious when you ask for show me what you plan to do on that site because most of the time we're going to be disappointed and the neighbors are going to be even more disappointed when they were told one thing and they didn't get it all right finally um just know that the decisions you make do have impacts I wanted to bring up a couple recent court case decisions and this is specific to court case decisions in Nevada um that had huge financial impacts two of them are in the in the southern Nevada portion Red Rock versus Clark County this was a project that went on for 20 years um there were some old mines that had been um hadn't been used as mins anymore and a developer came in again this was more than 20 years ago and wanted to put in I think 5,000 homes so they had this big Vision a ton of push back from um a number of different bodies in the public that that opposed it at the end of the day the project was denied it went through multiple rounds of lawsuits the courts found in favor of the developer at a price tag of $80 million to do with a lot of things happened with that case um now the challenge with that is that Clark County is on the hook for 80 million well don't they have insurance for that no you don't have insurance for that they have to come up with that money on their own so how are they going to fund it um instead of funding some of their Capital Improvement projects like huh maybe they needed to build a new fire station nope that money has to be put on hold and has to be uh instead contributed to that Red Rock development project so um be be cautious that anything we do whether it is our council members or our Planning Commission there are repercussions there's another one that is against the city of Las Vegas I8 Land Company this had to do with a golf course um at one time it was a golf course then converted and a developer came in and said he wanted to build housing on it there was some disagreement of does the zoning take precedence or does the master plan take precedence again after a lot of Court battles at the end of the day I think it was about a $48 million lawsuit that was against the city of Las Vegas uh more recently Stan Lucas in the City of Reno this was a project in the North Verde area just west of Somerset there was a long history 20 years ago of a lawsuit where um kind of the land use went through a lawsuit it was determined that generally in this area those two Parcels there that's that bottom map they could have 6 I think 30 some parcels um that was decided again at a high level um zoning level that was approved through the courts took them 20 years to come forward but they came forward with a tentative map Planning Commission recommended denial of the tentative map city council recommended denial of the tentative map the applicant sued and the court said go back and vote again make sure your basis your reason for approving or denying this is based on something tied to the findings went back to council they denied it again went back to the courts courts fa found in favor of the project so the project was approved then they sued the city for damages the city ended it by paying them $3.5 million again we don't have insurance to cover us for these lawsuits that comes out of our general fund so instead of nice pretty things and fun things now we have to pay a developer $3.5 million so just be extra careful when you make decisions always tie it to the findings I don't care if you're approving it or denying it or adding conditions make sure you can State a reason why that doesn't incl include how it makes you feel put something in there that's concrete all right so that is all I have for you today any questions from the group thank you we'll bring it back to the commission do you have any questions from Commissioners commissioner rer I guess I had questions thank you for the presentation I have questions about non-project decision making so when there's code cleanups or when there's a master plan that's ready for adoption um those don't come with findings no so what is the r do we need a rationale for something like that that we need to for kind of a drisking decision making so you're saying um we're doing some code cleanup now let's say we're making some changes on setbacks nope um and that that goes back to um you know does it make sense and code cleanups are incredibly difficult because they're not black and white every jurisdiction has their own set of zoning codes and something as simple as how wide a parking space should be our rules for parking spaces differ from waso County different from City of Sparks you think that would be something that consistently we would all have the same size parking stalls but we don't so there is flexibility there I will say we do a lot of things in our zoning code that over the last 20 years have been adopted um that most jurisdictions don't do so we have a lot of uniqueness to ours at the end of the day you guys make a recommendation that goes to council so they ultimately make that decision any further questions commissioner VTO just a comment this has been my favorite training you've done so far so thank you for uh presenting for us tonight oh good thank you commissioner uh commissioner dulich don't want to forget about you virtually H commissioner belto nailed it that was awesome thank you Miss F you're welcome thanks for staying awake yeah thank you for presenting that was great appreciate it great yeah I think we're basically in discussion this one do we have any further uh discussion items commissioner Basera yeah thank you so much everyone you know um one question is there a project like uh not not like a small project the standard storage units or you know those size projects but some of regional significance level that you feel this body can look back to that you can point us to and say you know that one was that's a model project where it was evaluated by staff the commission all the way up and and that's one that you know we should kind of use as a model for how things are done I know each Project's unique but you I think they're all done perfectly no um I I I will add the thing I I think even the general public doesn't realize about projects of regional significance we all look at those projects for different reasons at at the local level the you know Reno Sparks was County let's say it's a conditional use permit we're looking at the the details of is it compatible with the neighborhood you know how have you mitigated the traffic impacts does it meet how tall a building can be in that zoning District now when you get to Regional they don't look at any of that they have no control over our zoning regulations they have no control over over traffic and where traffic light should go so they're looking at it for very different reasons which makes it tough because we in a way we've almost already vetted that decision when we've looked at it from you know a super um detailed level by the time it gets to Regional if we've missed something that Regional is looking at we probably missed the boat on like oops how did we miss that you know Regional looks at things like is it in the development constraints area meaning we have a map that shows where slopes are more than 30% steep um it's a p it's a wetland all of that we would look at just to know if you know are are you putting a building in a wetland are you putting a building in a pla but Regional looks at it from a very different level so they don't look at it to the same minutia that we do and we actually we include Regional early on in those projects to say can you just do a super high level have we missed anything so before it even gets to Planning Commission regional has taken a look and provided a quick analysis to say Yep this will trigger project Regional significance you're good to go keep processing so I think from a process point of view it's been set up in a good way um by the time you get to Regional if we've if they have found something that we somehow missed in our review again I'd say some major fatal flaws and that we miss something at the staff level but typically by the time it gets to Regional um everything's already been vetted the zoning is in place you know the master plan's been approved so we're looking at it for kind of very different different levels okay great thank you just a followup sure um I'm just a little confused by the vision comment um and so I just want to kind of find reconciliation there uh from past expectations that were perhaps set um before and not too long ago um the presentation order was changed so staff would go first and then uh applicant would follow and I believe it was communicated that they would focus on kind of a larger picture Vision uh and not be uh redundant if you will of staff's presentation but it sounds like what you're saying is that they really shouldn't focus on that because we're not evaluating that and so I'm curious um what what is what should we be looking for between these two presentations if they're meant to be the same if not Vision M I think the one thing that the applicant provide is the why they may say we chose to put in you know on the Starbucks example um right now Starbucks has enough queuing for five cars and that probably met our code standard at the time now a new Starbucks is going in and they want to have queuing for 10 cars and they've designed it in a way that has you know the kind of the vshape um that was their decision to do that so the question for them is like why did you choose to do that versus maybe the way that Starbucks has traditionally had their drive-throughs I think the applicant provides that level of detail because they're the ones coming up with the site plan versus City staff we're the ones reviewing it and saying does it meet code and the challenge when you ask the vision is again it's it's it's almost fake news because they all come up with this great way to sell you on why you should vote Yes you're not buying a car the question is does it meet the code yes or no have you mitigated the impacts yes or no that's what Planning Commission should be looking at often times the vision is sold as this pretty picture and they come up with all these things that they they say they want to do or they're going to do but unless it's conditioned as a requirement they're not going to do it there's nothing requiring them to do it and so you have just been so a vision that there is no teeth to make them do it and again from the neighborhood perspective we see this all the time the neighbors are told one thing and it doesn't get built to look like that orun function that way so we really try and focus on the practicality of don't sell me a used car sell me the project and tell me why you're building it that way okay and does do applicants know that because sometimes it feels like at least for the last while now that um staff presents you know knocks it out of the park if you will and applicants like can't follow that show and uh we're just going to kind of tap out here and uh I feel like maybe it's a missed opportunity for them to really focus on the the why they're doing something uh and so maybe my question is are they getting communicated what the expectation of their presentation supposed to be to us and we can have that again every jurisdiction does it slightly different right every jurisdiction gives the ability for staff to get up and the applicant to get up this is universal across the whole country um again we we encourage our applicants to provide presentation because they can provide a lot of feedback in terms of some of the questions you ask but their job is not to sell you a project different applicants have different presentation Styles that's on them there's no rules on what they have to do they don't even have to present if they don't want to it's definitely uh we encourage them to present because if questions come up that our staff isn't privy to answers you know they should have those answers great thank you commissioner villan AA thank thank you thanks again that was a great presentation I really appreciated uh the flowchart of kind of all the things that the application has to go through um it it does get U very I guess nuanced with our role because it does the applicants do go through a long process and then we'll get we'll get applications like the one we got a few weeks ago with the with the sound or with it with the music until 2 am or 3:00 a.m. or whatever it was that that went through seven different entities agencies things like that and then it comes in front of us and then it is a determination well let's look at the character of the community let's look at you know let's look at let's really look at the findings and then we also have to be a voice for the community and we kind of do play that additional role that maybe some of the other seven agencies or folks haven't really focused on so I think it's important to highlight that I just want to highlight that for the for the commission but um but yeah this was uh really helpful thank you great any further questions or comments from the commission seeing none uh before close on I just like to say thank you for their presentation I found it very helpful I think I can speak for myself when I joined the commission was composed differently I think it had a lot of experience and frankly I've only been on almost two years since then um and it's changed quite a lot and you know you have folks term out that are very knowledgeable and we're a pretty young board I I think is a fair way to characterize it um for the most part we do have some folks here that are really experienced who have been here for a while but this presentation I think is really important and it'll be helpful to us going forward so I look forward to um your following presentations and thanks again to staff for taking the time to sort of put this together and let us engage in this dialogue with you really appreciate it great thank you much sorry one more thing chair sure can we make that available on theb is that available with like not the self-help but the uh somewhere on the website the city of Reno's website maybe like in the planning section we can I think for the general public um they all have access to all of the staff reports and presentations um kind of helps to they can go back at any time just pull up the date and pull up the presentation what about the just the general public like folks comeing and visit the commission for the first time maybe they got a notice they don't really understand the process I think this would be really helpful to have on the website I'll leave that to you but just a something to add thanks yeah absolutely and we um we have done kind of some just so you know to um similar type trainings with the nabs I think we have it's probably been a year and a half since we've done it there's definitely a lot of rotation on the NAB boards and so um once we get some new na NAB members probably in January February we'll be going back out to the nabs and giving them a similar presentation I think they struggle too with you know what's our if we're not voting on projects what's the purpose of the NAB but again they serve a definitely an important role in getting the information out to the neighborhood so we'll do a similar type presentation to them okay thanks everyone thank you Angela we will close item seven and move to item eight trucky Meadows Regional planning liaison report I can presented I don't know if it's okay for chair fine for chair okay great so we have actually had a pretty eventful Regional Planning Commission meeting last week we had three items first was consideration and possible adoption of the 2024 waso County census forecast that was approved unanimously just at a high level um staff basically walked us through how they think about census forecasting um just into the future different data sets that they use it was actually really informative I I recommend people check it out I think they actually put it on the tmpa website so it's a great resource uh second item was an RPC training segment on projects of regional significance as defined in NRS um just kind of high level training for the RPC uh RPC actually does have a training requirement for its members so that was eligible for hours towards our training requirement that we had to meet and generally um informative that has also had a fair amount of turnover and transition so I thought it was good time to kind of go through these highle trainings and then the last item we covered was a status update on projects of signific significant Regional sorry projects of regional significant uh as it relates to Watcher County School District and charter schools and it was basically a presentation of the history of regional planning concerns and objectives regarding the schools possible direction of staff is basically conducting further research and analytics coordinating with the governing board Regional Planning Commission County School District Charter and private school stakeholders uh the short version of that is we agreed to proceed with further research but more importantly having kind of a stakeholder meeting with all of those uh agencies and stakeholders to try and work through that issue and determine whether or not schools in general um Charter Schools Etc should have a project of regional significance uh designation of tax do past a certain threshold with a goal of kind of coming up with a plan by the end of the year that we can present and move forward um towards a decision so those were the main highlights from the regional Planning Commission last week and we will close item eight and move to item nine staff announcements thank you Mr chair uh for the record Mike reallyy planning manager um as far as a report on planning division projects I've had several Commissioners ask me if we're seeing any kind of increase in activity within the planning department um I will say as of within the last few weeks we've seen a a significant uptick in requests for pre-application meetings and a pre-application meeting is a service that we offer development services every Monday we hold meetings it's a chance for um somebody to bring forward a project and get input from not only planning but engineering Public Works Utility Services environmental services so there's somebody there from all those departments to provide input um now not all those projects that come forward will make it to this commission depending on what entitlements are required or what type of project but generally speaking it's a precursor for what we expect to see um we've had such an uptick that we're actually increasing our time slots to accommodate those so we anticipate that we will see a fairly significant increase in the number of applications um being submitted so um that's just kind of a quick update as far as um Council updates the Canyons PUD the second reading of that uh ordinance was approved on September 19th by the city council and the Cavalry Chapel zone change which you recently heard that will go to Council on the 23rd of October that's all I have for this evening great thank you we will close item 9 move to item 10 commissioner suggestions for future agenda items do any Commissioners have suggestions commissioner villain yeah I've asked for it before so I just don't know if it's appropriate or not because it hasn't been presented so maybe it doesn't matter if we hear it but I do want to hear about the the plan for the river um it may not I mean I understand that it may not happen and maybe it's not appropriate for us to hear but it would be would be nice to have that information so if that's something you guys think you can I know you guys are busy as as that plan is evolving we want to make sure that we we've got kind of the latest and greatest so we are recording that in we will have a presentation coming back okay thank you any other recommendations or suggestions see none we'll close item 10 move to item 11 public comment this item is fether public comment on any action item item or for any general public comment do you have anyone wishing to speak on Zoom we do not have anyone on Zoom no do you have anyone in the Chambers wishing to speak under general public comment seeing none we will close public comment and move to item 12 adjournment so moved a motion we are adjourned thank you you than y'all for