Planning Commission - 08.01.24

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[Music] [Music] [Music] all right we'll call the meeting to order uh good evening and welcome to the August 1st 2024 meeting of the minaka Planning Commission the commission generally meets on the 1 and third Thursdays of the month the schedule and tentative agendas can be obtained by calling the planning department or by checking the city website at minan mn.gov the commission holds public hearings on land use applications from a specific process standpoint that means we make recommendations to the city council on rezonings subdivisions conditional use permits and amendments to the city's comprehensive plan zoning ordinance and subdivision regulations we also make final decisions on site plans signage requests and variance requests and expansion permits unless these requests are part of an application that must be heard by the the city council in that case the commission makes a recommendation and the council makes the final decision the city notifies Property Owners within at least 400 fee of the sites post signs on the properties and places notices in the Lakeshore Weekly News and the minaka memo any Agri party May appeal a final Planning Commission decision to the city council if you wish to appeal you must submit a written request to the city within 10 days of this meeting from a broader standpoint the city's comprehensive plan zoning ordinance and sub Vision regulations are the city's best efforts to codify a balance between individual rights and Community responsibilities individual rights are easy to understand Community responsibilities are more subtle but the idea is that we as members of the community agree to limit our individual rights for the common good of the group The planning department the Planning Commission and the city council are charged with managing the sometimes difficult Balancing Act we ask you keep this broader perspective in mind as we review tonight's applications again welcome uh staff please call roll Waterman is absent Banks here Hansen here Henry here Maxwell is absent minion here and Cher here there are five of us seated here tonight um and before we proceed if anyone has uh any issues with hearing or would like additional hearing devices uh the city staff has additional uh hearing devices that can help but otherwise we'll try and um make sure our voices are loud enough all right uh moving on next is approval of the agenda and I believe there's a change memo uh chair and Commissioners uh that's correct we have a change memo for this evening uh two items the first is actually a project that we've added to your consent agenda as 7D it's a reaffirmation of a a front yard setback variance that you approved a few years ago um that was emailed out to you this morning and um provide Again by change memo on the city's website and here in writing essentially uh this was a a variance from 25 ft to 23.5 ft for a total of 14 squ foot encroachment into the required uh front yard setback there's that and then item 8A we received some uh public comments and also a letter from uh the applicant so that is put into the public record here this evening great thank you recognizing the change memo would someone like to make a motion to approve the agenda I'll make the motion motion banks I'll second the motion second Henry all those in favor signify by saying I I I motion carries uh next is approval of minutes from uh the July 18th 2024 meeting uh Commissioners any changes to those minutes doesn't look like it then I'll take a motion to approve those minutes I will make that motion motion Hansen second second minion all those in favor signify by saying I I I motion carries uh next is report from staff uh chair and Commissioners uh there was a city council meeting between our last uh now and our last Planning Commission meeting but there were no planning related items on that agenda so nothing to report from there my only um comments to you have to do with your upcoming meetings your next regularly scheduled meeting is August 15th and then we have the joint edac Planning Commission city council tour um the following week on the 22nd we'll probably be starting a little bit earlier um than our normal meeting here so that we can see things uh in the daylight but we will send out a agenda and a time schedule for you when we get closer to that date great thank you uh Commissioners anything to report uh we wait just a second uh doesn't look like it all right uh moving on to uh item number seven the consent agenda items uh these these are items that are routine and will be grouped together and uh approved in one motion unless someone would like to pull an item and then have a full discussion and vote on that specific item uh there's three items on the consent agenda tonight item oh four excuse me thank you four um item 7A is a front yard setback variance for a portico Edition at 18106 wman drive and this is a recommendation to adopt the resolution approving the requests next is 7B conditional use permit for a detached accessory dwelling unit at 4329 Wilson Street and again this is a recommendation to adopt the resolution approving the permit and uh 7 C conditional use permit for child care facility at 10297 yellow Circle Drive uh and is a recommendation to the city council to adopt the resolution approving the permit um and then 7D also thank you for the catch Commissioners uh is reaffirmation of a previously approved front yard set B variants for a garage Edition at 1833 brinwood Lane and again that's a recommendation to adopt the resolution reaffirming uh the variance subject to final appeal all right uh would someone like to make that motion or would someone like to pull any of those items doesn't look like it when anyone in the audience like to pull any of these items have a discussion on them doesn't look like it all right then I think we're probably ready to make a motion would someone like to make a make a motion all right uh motion is minion I'll second second Hansen uh staff please pull the commission Banks yes Hansen yes Henry yes minion yes CH yes motion carries uh good luck for the four with uh all of your projects all right uh next is before we uh before we begin consideration of the non-consent agenda items I'd like to review the steps in the process and the public hearing procedure that will be followed for each proposal first item will be announced and the staff will report on the subject the commission will then ask questions next the applicant will be invited to make a presentation or offer comments Commissioners may ask additional questions at this time after the applicant is finished the public hearing will be open to give anyone present uh the opportunity to comment on the proposal if you wish to speak please come to the podium and state your name and address for the record we ask that you keep your comments brief and try not to repeat points already made once people have spoken we may allow speakers to return for additional comments at larger meetings uh the public hearing will then be closed and no further comments will be allowed the commission will discuss the proposal and make a decision the first item on tonight's agenda is item 8A items concerning Amir Villas at 901 Carlson Parkway and the recommendation is the city council adopt the ordinance and resolution approving The Proposal uh I think uh before we begin uh commissioner minion you've got just a little disclaimer you want to share yes I work for the same parent company as United properties I do not get paid by them I do not get compensated by them I do not take a direction from them but I just want to make sure that we're up board that uh it's the same parent company thank you thank you for being transparent you appreciate it all right uh Mr englon welcome back uh this is your item thank you CH so and commission so I'll just first off I'll get us a little oriented with where we're looking here um there's a lot of very big landmarks there particularly to buildings that are pretty noticeable in that area but we're at the intersection of 394 394 and 494 in that northwest corner and then right here you can see is the Carlson Tower so we're just Southwest of that look at this property the subject property is 2.3 acres in area and it's directly south of the Amira minaka Apartments that's a large building you see there looking at the site it's not currently in a natural state and that's uh you see it's mostly Turf Lawn over that area and that's really because it's was part of a larger Carl Tower project earlier uh several several years ago uh there was actually masquerading on the site so it's really prepped a long time ago and so it's not really in a current Natural State as you would imagine it uh looking at it is rather flat except for in the northwest corner of the property there is a bit of topography change uh you also notice in that same area there's some trees you see there those were trees that are actually planted as part of this Pro the Amira Apartment project and those trees are um younger they're not much CH trees they're uh a little bit smaller but it's interesting they we part of that Landscaping as part of that project also you'll see here these uh sort of umbrellas that's actually a recreation area that's a part of the Amir apartment uh it's important we'll talk about that a little bit later but there's a lounge Area Pool and Spa and recreational courts uh to jump a little bit ahead those will be uh the applicant has talked a little bit about uh having those be shared amenities between this project and also that current one with that apartment building so going back uh we going to go through some history of this project because I think it's sort of interesting to go back and look at all these things uh the master development plan for this area is part of a larger Carlson Center Master development plan that includes 328 acres and it crosses both Minon and Plymouth so it's a rather unique master plan when you're looking at it um this property if you're looking on here the property to the north uh is actually that again that Amira um minota Apartments that's for 55 plus it's 186 units and was uh approved in 20 20 the property we're looking at tonight is the property of the South so it's a really was a two-phase project so while they're different properties they really are sort of two phases of the same development and this Phase 2 uh it's gone through a couple different iterations but the originally in 1987 it was approved for an 8-story 150 room Hotel it's pretty much stay that way throughout the throughout the time until 2020 when it really just just reduced to a four-story 136 unit uh hotel room so or hotel building uh and then since then uh after that a concept plan came to this spring so fast fast forwarding to 2024 and uh this the commission heard this item back on May 16th so not that long ago hopefully your memory still remember this one uh that was uh at that time the applicant had a proposal of nine town homes with 28 units in total uh comments that the commission had were looking for higher density carbon footprint reductions and more green space went to the city council on June 3rd and they had rather similar comments compared to the Planning Commission interested in seeing more density and also sustainability practices with the project but both the commission and the council at those times saw that it really this project had Merit to proceed so that was sort of the direction that was given to them as far as what where to go with this project moving to what's been proposed for tonight it's rather similar to that concept plan looking at it the access has stayed the same the building locations have are relatively in the same location as the previous uh concept plan uh and also trails and amenity spaces all pretty similar the real changes that you'll see is that number one the the buildings have been decreased from 9 to 8 and then the units have just been increased a little bit from 28 to 30 looking at the design of the building the building really will complement the Amira um and at tanka apartments using a similar color palette and then also using high quality materials looking on here you'll see the brown area will brick the white area will be a um fiber cement panels and then gray will be a metal siding so as you see here there's a cross out there that has been changed since the original submitt and with uh during con conversations with the applicant each building will also have two to four units here's a look at that a little bit um the first floor and this is uh just one of the buildings there are three different designs this one we're just looking at the fourplex but they are pretty similar in the way there're laid out there'll be first floor will have an entry a main entry for for people to come in through from off of a sidewalk but also there'll be private garages so there'll be one to two stalls the gray area that you see on your screen are common spaces or spaces that for utilities and looking at there uh when you enter in for to the garage people would enter into what probably a small mud room you'd have as you enter and then you'd enter the common space and each unit would have a flex room on that level from there you could take an elevator or take the stairs up to the second or third level where the unit would be from there you would enter into another common space open area where you could then enter into your private unit and private units are going to be uh two to three bedrooms and uh the three to three bathrooms and the sizes for those roughly will be between 1,300 to 1,900 Square ft so a little unique uh when you're looking at this for the size compared to a lot of the other units we see so moving on to the buildings here is just another view of what those will look like they're the private garages folks would enter to and they're really stacked on top of each other so you have similar layouts for uh design the similar unit layouts stacked on top of each other going back a little bit to talk about the topography I'm definitely a map person so I always like to look at this and this gives me a little better idea of what's going on there compared to just looking at a picture so you'll see here this is the highest point of the site over the northwest corner it drops down pretty fast as you move to uh move towards that Northern property and then as you move away from that area though it really flattens out it's a pretty gradual gentle fall as it moves away to the north and also to the east and south looking at some different uh uh changes that going to be needed to the site grading actually is pretty minimal because it's already been prepped before so um grading again will be pretty minor for the changes that need to occur to accommodate those buildings and also that new road through there uh there will be a series of retaining walls that would be needed those are shown in red on your screen those retaining walls will be about a 5 foot maximum height something that staff has put in as a requirement is that those uh different retaining walls will need fening to ensure safety also something to note on the screen as this large Blue Area you'll see is the storm water chamber the applicant has proposed so it would be underneath the drive that uh people would access those different buildings on looking at trees is a little bit unique for the site uh we talk a lot about trees here so I'll talk a little bit about that too because it is a bit of a unique rule because this site was vacant it's actually not subject to our typical tree requirements so uh that's only we don't see too often here in menka there's not a whole lot of large vacant sites so you see that that's a little bit surprising to all of us but that's something important to note however when looking at this staff still went through to look and see how many trees were being removed and also um how would that meet ordinance looking at the two sites combined because it is truly a two-phase development but looking at that only nine trees out of around 150 Reg ated trees on the site would be removed so a rather small percentage of those would be removed with this project the Aran red shows some of those trees uh includes some that are also not regulated but this shows the amount of trees that would be removed they'd be removed for really the buildings that are being put in but then also for some sidewalks and trails if we connect two different areas the applicant also submitted a landscaping plan that's rather robust looking at it there would be 54 trees 60 shrubs and 346 perennials planted so so definitely showing that investment that we see in manako with different apartment buildings and also with different high density residential areas too uh definitely continuing that with that sort of investment something was also requested from the applicant was to show some different building views I think it's important to see the massing that you compare to the different buildings around here um when we're looking at this just to give you some perspective on the massing of these things that the buildings that are proposed are 39 ft High 39 ft tall the while you see the ramp to the over to the right side of your screen that does look around the same but it's actually a little bit taller because it does drop off but from Gray to the top that's 43 ft and then the building in the background is that air apartment building and that would be ranges there's some different parts that are higher different parts that are lower but you're ranging from about 50 to 60 ft tall so definitely taller than these buildings by quite a big margin I believe our applicant tonight will show another view that will give that a better perspective for you another uh request we have was to show some Shadow studies showing how this would affect the buildings to the north as far as with shadows uh just for reference here uh again don't have a scale on here but this is about 75 ft and over on this farther uh bottom part of your screen would be 89 ft separation between the buildings and this is the shadow that you'd see expect on October 21st at 1: p.m. here's it on December 2 uh 2nd at 10: a.m. and April 21st at 1: p.m. so the uh at the worst case scenario at the worst part of year probably touching right around close to the building um but most of the time when that recreational area will be used um looking to April and then also October uh it's really staying pretty much off of the uh recreational space on the site so tonight the requests we have here there's a few different ones for this project uh but the first part is for the master uh uh the amend a ma a major Amendment to the master development plan the request is for a 30 unit high density uh town home uh request is really it's a reasonable request when staff looks at it uh for really two reasons first it will provide a unique senior housing option for the area this is something we don't see as often coming through so definitely a unique housing type that uh the city's always looking forward to see to provide different options for uh folks when they're looking for housing number two it'll complement the senior housing apartment building to the north uh having those two different options in the same area and a similar use but yet still uh providing a option moving to number two there the site and building plan review it meets all of the minimum standards with the exception of the floor area ratio requirement so first just a looking at the site the buildings are dense but are densely uh put together but they are appropriately spaced when considering this sort of development in this area uh The Pedestrian and vehicle pass are intuitive and orderly they make sense how you can travel throughout the site and also create a lot of good connections uh specifically for pedestrians also lands aping will enhance the site and be consistent with the neighboring properties moving to the building uh we've had a lot of talks with the applicant about the building and the materials to be used and they're using high quality materials when it comes to a project such as this one so definitely that investment that's expected uh in this area also comp it'll definitely complement the Amira apartment building looking at the color palet and also the materials on it and style uh lastly the variance uh for floor area ratio uh it is one that they've are making request with this it's going from 0.75 to 0.83 just a refresher that's looking at the building size and massing and compare in comparison to the entire site so when looking at that staff looked at a couple things so first off looking at the previously planned hotel that one was going to be uh so the current proposal is for 83 that one was for 082 so this request is really similar it wasn't a whole lot of it's not much larger than the massing when you're looking at those two different proposals the one that's currently uh on the plans for this and versus the one that's being proposed tonight also the property is adjacent to a highdensity apartment building that has a floor area ratio of .9 so the massing of that building while it's also larger it's also even larger When comparing it to the site so um this one definitely is lower than that one but would be similar and it's actually a little bit less for a floor area ratio and if approved the combined sites phase one that proper to the north and this one would have only a 3% floor area ratio increase so it's a very small increase when looking at the two sites combined with that staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend city council adopt the ordinance approving those requests above with that I'll turn it back over to the chair and commission for questions great thank you I'm surprised your calculator went down to that many decimal points I'm just impressed Commissioners any questions for staff yeah commissioner Hansen you have a question yeah thanks Drew um thanks cheer Drew can you just give us an overview of like um any guest parking that might exist or how does that work on the site uh yep commissioner Hansen so going back to plans uh there would be options for people to folks to park again on their in in the individual driveways that would probably where most likely would be acced it's a pretty narrow area uh it's probably a good question to also ask the developer tonight if they have different I plans for that but looking at the plan there is enough room measured here it's uh right around 20 ft so enough to definitely accommodate a visitor coming in and most of the units are for two so you probably have two most units would have two spaces thanks other questions for staff this is for Drew or for the applicant but the earlier uh proposal that changed this new one we one of the questions we brought up was about green space with this new footprint do we lose or increase Green Space how would that change uh commissioner minion chair um there wasn't a calculation between the two and how big the grain space changeed but it's very similar in spacing so I think looking at from um zoomed out level it's very similar you'd ask the applicant that question if they have more specifics on it but um it's rather similar in design and green space other questions all right doesn't look like it but I'm sure we'll think of more all right uh if the applicant would like to come forward and offer presentation or any comments we' love to hear from you if you could give us your name and address for the record and uh welcome good evening chair members of the commission my name is Dave Young with United properties with me as well is Janelle McLean our ESG corporate manager as well fortive properties we appreciate uh you reviewing our application this evening I also want to thank uh staff um and uh the planning department for their thorough review and and Report uh regarding this application we're happy to bring this back before you we were here just a few months ago um in concept phase uh We've continued to uh listen to the feedback from both the commission and from the council and feel that we have uh provided and met um or addressed um if not all most of those uh comments that that were heard um Drew do I have is it the is it the N underneath there correct so I will start with should be in control there you um introducing just the aerial context of of the site not much different than you saw before uh as far as location um the the project highlights again I I'll probably more focus on the changes from what we originally had uh we had uh nine nine buildings and now we have reduced that down to eight buildings but have increased the density from 28 units to 30 units we we have basically maximized the density that we're capable of doing on this site given the unique product that we have and the unique product being the larger units right so we've maximized the density really without sacrificing the large units that that we feel is what this Market is really um requesting uh the unique design is really driven by the the attached garages rather than a multif family building that has underground parking so again these private attached garages are something that is unique to the to the market to the housing type and we're excited to be able to bring that in addition to that um as far as it relates to density there is a private restrictive covenant over over this property as part of the Carlson uh Master Association and um through this uh proposal we are covering 75% of that maximum allowable density that we could put on the site if if we wanted to um a comment uh that commissioner made earlier regarding the the parking um in addition to the um parking stalls in the driveway that could be used for guests um and visitors there's also 20 additional stalls on the east side of the property for additional guests you know larger larger Gatherings that drive aisle and those parking stalls um those improvements are current and in place today um we have included sidewalk connectivity not only to the Amira building to the north but also to the larger uh trail system um at Deer Creek Parkway and Carlson Parkway up on the west we have also uh the the previous concept plan showed a little bit May probably more of a storm water or water feature in that southwest corner we have uh changed that to be an amenity patio we've not fully developed that amenity patio but we have space planned that to incorporate amenities that would be able to be shared not only by these residents of the Villas but also the residents at the Amir manat Tonka building staying with the with the project here um units again 30 units uh the the total gross rentable square footage of the two and three bedroom options are roughly 15500 to 2200 ft um if you add in the flex room and the mud rooms which are specific to those units down on that on that lowest level each unit will have the elevator access private attached garage and mudro that was spoke to earlier the flex room uh the oversized decks shouldn't be understated that's definitely um something that is uh is um appreciated by by our residents upscale unit finishes expansive windows and individual climate controls these are similar perspectives that that uh uh planner engelson shared with you earlier with the addition of that additional one at the the lower portion of the screen of just a different perspective kind of looking through that that amenity space looking looking North some additional uh context as far as scale color architectural synergies between between the two projects um similar materials similar colors um we're excited of how this proposed Village a project will complement the existing Amira building with that I'd like to introduce Janelle mle thanks Dave hi everyone I just want to take some time and and kind of showcase the ESG elements so I am Janelle mlan and like Dave said and I lead our ESG initiatives at United properties the environmental social governing components um my role is just really to work with our develop developers and operating teams to incorporate environmental and social governance items and really be a partner and resource in ensuring that we're um incorporating anything related to the environment and sustainability and Community um at the Forefront and throughout the the property as it operates um I did want to showcase and include you'll see a QR code there if you'd like to read our 2023 ESG report which just has much more expansive information of our initiatives and efforts so as far as ESG United properties is ay we really integrate ESG principles into every aspect of our real estate development and our operations as I mentioned we're really committed to reducing the environmental impacts cultivating that social responsibility and then operating with strong governance I wanted to kind of highlight the esj by the numbers from a high level company from United properties so for our senior living buildings uh both uh the ones that we own and have developed we are in the top 1% for our energy star scores so the EPA has an energy star score that rates um buildings from 0 to 100 that measures how well the commercial buildings perform in terms of energy consumption to similar other buildings our average score for our senior living bu buildings is 99.92% panels on the roof to offset the common area utility usage from the residents uh in we really prioritize our inclusive procurement so in 2023 on our projects that were active development projects we spent 19 million with diverse uh vendors and suppliers and that's really important to us and then lastly I'll highlight that we recently received the green lease leader award at the Gold level in 2024 that Ward really recognizes landlords who uh incorporate green leasing into their standard practice so this can includes things like having a sustainability contact having sustainability practices highlighted and laid out in their leases now I just want to highlight the specific ESG elements on this specific project the Amir Villas minetonka uh we are currently enrolled in the energy design assistance program and we're showcasing a 21% red reduction in CO2 emissions compared to code we are having high efficiency H track systems energy star appliances and LED lighting so we're really prioritizing that Energy Efficiency and cost-saving and also environmental impact as well we will use native and drought in tolerant landscaping and having the water sense irrigation uh we will use the habitable assessment tool called informed that will help us assess and prioritize healthy and Sustainable Building materials all of the garages at this project will have EV charging cap capability um we will also seek a Minnesota Green Path certification on this project this is a leading Energy Efficiency and Green Building certification program that's for residential projects specifically from a social aspect we're really highlighting that by having this project built seniors can sell their single family homes making way for other younger families to purchase those um and then of the for the Amir minona project I just wanted to note too that 109 of those residents previously resided in minetonka so residents aren't leaving the area they're continuing their trajectory and staying in the in the city we will prioritize our inclusive procurement on this project and track the diverse spend and have many conversations with the general contractor and subcontractors and getting that prioritized uh socialization is very important for the senior residents so we will have a dedicated resident experience director which programs events and wellness programs and really combating that loneliness aspect and then lastly from a g perspective the governance having me on the team both during the development process and construction but then also during our operating practice as well we will uh track and monitor all of the energy water water and waste and ghg emissions in our energy star and conservice ESG software and then lastly we will have green lease language included in all the residential leases at this project as well as the unit turnovers as well great thanks Janelle so as we wrap up just wanted to uh capture a couple of key takeaways um to leave you with as you're well aware airor metaton was developed by United properties opened last June of 20123 and as of the end of last month we were 93% occupied which is just fascinating um feedback from from uh from the residents it is managed by Great Lakes management who we are also proposing to manage the Villas so using the economy of scale we can find efficiencies through some shared services uh we do currently have a 12 unit weight list at air minona for our largest units and the um Villa residents as as we want to speak about the cross access and um access to the amenities and the programming the vill resident will have the same exact experience from access to amenities programming staff um the items included within the rent the all-inclusive model that we have for the rent um they will have the same access utilizing key fobs for secured access into the Amir building to access the amenities um and the pool area and the the patio deck and so on and so on um and again we we're excited to be able to connect the sidewalks to the larger trail system in the area so that being said we appreciate your consideration of our project and we be available for any questions you might have thank you great thank you Commissioners any questions for the applicant commissioner Henry thanks chair thanks for the presentation I'm really heartened to see that you took to heart some of the feedback that we gave you in the Planning Commission and also from the city council too and to reiterate the three things that we both agreed on were higher density lower carbon footprint and more green space and you mentioned that you're addressing these three issues I can see higher density minimally you have 30 versus 28 but in your mind that that considers significantly higher density or at least marginally higher density the overall maybe the larger question is did you approach this looking to take our feedback and say how can we structurally redesign it to have a lot more density than than what it was or you just said well just add a couple units and that's going to be good enough to address this density issue uh thank you for the question um I'd probably just turn the attention to the site plan where we are really we we took that that uh that question and that feedback to heart and we we're maximizing the site to the best of our ability again the garages really drive drive the the unique design here with all of the garages um being part of the the footprint of the actual land that's available to build on um we we reduced we we made all these buildings larger oh I'm sorry we uh we made all these buildings on the North side larger um versus they were originally duplex buildings so um we are unable to go more vertical because we don't have the parking ability with the garage the attached garage design that that we're incorporating into our design so we really just spaced out as much as we possibly could while maintaining the appropriate setbacks the appropriate parking the appropriate Drive Lan AES and still providing a little amenity space in that southwest corner short of a complete redesign to change the philosophy about having underground parking and more along the lines of the model of the the development further north it sounds like that was the main constraint that you saw a market for this type of housing and then you stuck with it that that is correct yes okay thank you the second point about the three points of feedback was lowering the carbon footprint and you mentioned that on the development to the north you had a certain number of solar panels on the roof this is a different Beast because it's got It's got cabled roofs versus a flat roof but was there any thought to installing solar panels on the roofs of these individual buildings as well we did have some initial conversations with the solar uh consultant and it is just not economically feasible for this project to incorporate solar panels for each individual building within the roof at at this time um but as uh Janelle pointed out that um through our own corporate initiatives uh we did install those solar panels on that Amir metaka building next door um to to they're really designed to offset the amenity the common are amenity electric usage which these residents will benefit by um while they're using those common area amenities thank you second thing is about you said all the garages are going to be ready for having uh EV charging units put in I'm assuming they're not going to be put in that's up to the the resident if they choose to do that but is it hooked up so they have 220 volt power is that is that what your criteria was correct um each garage will have a no electrician but capable for a level two charging capability yeah we're not putting it's just the plug in the wall which I believe is 220 um from my understanding yeah okay thank you it sounds like Minnesota Green Path is an analogy to lead certification seems like lead has gone out of style these days and has has Minnesota Green Path taken its place uh maybe Janelle you could you could elaborate on that if you would yeah lead for single family homes in this sort of style just has a lot of it's not looked at as the Leading Edge anymore this will this certification is uh above code and has different levels that complement and taking into account all of the ESG elements okay good and let's see last on the carbon footprint is are you considering making it easy for the residents to subscribe to solar Gardens I know the city's done a lot of work in this area and they have a lot of resources on the city's website regarding sustainability yes but to and I think it's great and that's probably enough but I'm just wondering because you tout your environmental credentials and I think justifiably so but have do you make available any resources for those who move in to say here is what you can do in terms of getting solar garden subscriptions or making sure that it's sustainably sourced their energy sources aside from City resources yes so in in the Resident lease it will have my contact information and I make sure that I introduce myself to the residents and and discuss and help with any way I help with all of our tenants and residents as far as kind of being that connector of how can I help you just because there's a sometimes a lack of knowledge or resources and so really trying to be that connector to the solar garden initiative and all different kinds of initiatives good I'm glad to hear that last can you talk about the green space and is there a quantifiable increase in Green Space from the previous proposal and if there is can you let us know how much more green space there is I do not have that number the the square footage um number of impervious versus the previous um I believe Drew um indicated it's slightly more impervious or very very close again the I think the the big differences that we incorporated here is uh is the two fourplex buildings versus three tlex buildings so there I can only assume that there was a little bit of loss in Green Space in that in that area okay you mention I do not have a number though I apologize that's okay and then in the southwest corner we see that there's that amenity space is your vision for that I saw there's a little flame in the middle of one of the drawings did you have maybe a fire pit in the winter so people can hang out there in the summer are you considering a splash pad or is there going to be no water features in the summer yeah uh we have not developed that yet but it is our intent to review uh possible fire pit and outdoor grilling station and if if there were to be a water feature it would be a standalone water feature you know maybe like a water fountain or something to that extent we just haven't developed that just yet but it is our intent to make sure that that area is welcoming it is amenitized um something that we hear from the residents at air minona such as the grill stations in Amir minona um get used they get used often so we felt it was a good idea to study the availability of incorporating some Grill stations or a grill station on on this patio as well thank you let me Circle back once more to different materials that you're using in here I'm assuming since these are going to be very close to 394 Highway 12 that they'll be having heavier sound proofing than what is required by code uh is that correct um we again we have not developed the construction documents for our windows but we will pay special attention to the sound attenuation um because we we hear that feedback from from the residence of Mir metat tanka as well so we will definitely explore that and and to the best of our ability increase the sound attenuation properties specifically in the glass and there are different ways you can do that through glass dissimilar glass or or varying layered glass um we will explore that with our with our vendors and our manufacturers um when the at the appropriate time thank you commissioner Hansen you had a question yeah thanks chair these are a couple softballs I think so I'm not as smart as commissioner Henry um just just to confirm all all 30 units are for rent not for not to be owned by the resident is that accurate that is accurate okay I just want to make sure I was reading through and I was having a hard time deciphering if resident meant owner or just resident so that's helpful and then Drew if we can see or can we see profile I feel like I'm having a i familiar with the concept of the garage on the bottom floor but when I saw the two stall garage and then I was having a hard time en envisioning what unit the the garage went to with two with one story living being described above it so maybe can you just steer me how these two cars one gets goes to one floor one set of two cars goes to this third floor is that the right way to think about that correct directly above those two garages so if you think about this this Center wall probably more than likely being like a firewall or a demising wall um these two garages will support let's say this unit is level two and the same exact unit is above at at level three would support these these two garages got it okay I was probably just seeing the garage door is like truly a two-stall garage door on the elevation so I'm I'm good thank you great thanks commissioner Banks you have a question yeah thanks chair um yeah thank you both for the presentation and the information um Drew could you go back to um the previous photo you had it kind of shows the layout on the the ground uh there one one more I believe no keep going all right go um tell what just can you just go through it I'll tell you sure when we get to it yeah you can stop here this is that's sufficient this is sufficient so um there's a better view of this uh with the U the homes but with this layup can you give me your vision for um deliveries and how would that work um going into the units to make deliveries and then being able to get out well um we intentionally added the Hammerhead component to that private drive to provide um safe uh turnaround access whether it be for deliveries or emergency vehicles um we've included uh side walks um we can well yeah that's a great uh turning exhibit there um so we've also included sidewalks um kind of going down the middle of the site um so uh residents uh whether they're parking in the in the driveway um Can quickly access the basically the front the front doors versus the garage doors on on the private uh drive lane so that's how we we envision that uh the delivery um and and guests and visitors to access the the front front of the of the buildings okay and then what um what about snow removal what what would be the plan for snow removal we have not developed a snow removal plan um but it was I believe incorporated into the the proposed resolutions that no store no snow would be able to be stored in the Hammerhead or any emergency parking area so we would definitely take that into account um and incorporate that into our snow removal plan yeah yeah that would be would be good to see um it just doesn't seem to be a lot of place to place uh to store the snow um so I was just curious how would you actually get it out of there I know there's the 12 parking spaces to the east um for for guests but just kind of hard to Envision what what you would do with all of the snow um so if you can come up with that plan that would be great yeah I Envision it being all pushed out to that private aisle and and probably being being stored or um hauled off similar to the Amir building to the north sure the Amir building to the north uh that drive lane follows through with uh guest parking on the Amir building to the north so they have a very similar I guess um constraint as far as real estate to be able to put snow but the this last winter um was very a very easy uh I think uh um you know acclimating to to the program and we will continue to evolve that okay and then uh one last question about the um amenities patio uh did you consider instead of that do do you think it's more of a benefit to have the fire pit um or the the grill versus maybe just more green space in that area um well appreciate the comment um we we attempted to listen to feedback from many different uh angles including the existing res of Amir minetonka and that was something that we we wanted to make sure that we addressed um to the north of Amir minona and I'm not sure if we have a larger maybe on that um aerial plan if we if we could um yeah that that one's fine too um that one is fine all of this space um up here labeled number two uh through the courtyard there's a very large green open area available to which is only owned by United properties and and Amir Investments and and it's it's accessible to all of our Amir residents okay and and only say that in thinking that you know the the Amir building where you have a lot more residents um it seems that it does make sense that you have the the grill pits but here you you talked about the large decks um on these 30 units um I would assume that they probably would have a grill um the majority of them so just curious is whether or not a grill pit on that South Side uh would be beneficial versus just maybe figuring out how to you know have more green space or more um or maybe a different type of amenity but um just a just a thought we do not allow grills on the private okay balconies so that that's one of the reasons that we incorporate the grill stations out U separated you know whatever the code requirement is away from the combustible materials okay all right thank you you're welcome that answer your question y it does and and maybe just to follow on maybe then it's pervious pavers or something like that while it may not be green space where you have the patios something that can just help every every little bit helps right all right uh any other questions yeah commissioner Min you talked about the model the impervious space um something that we're all kind of sensitive to is storm water management uh and I saw some uh folks had written in about about that as well you speak to the storm water management your sist system holding it how you going to use it how you going to process it or what it what it does for the property what does the environment uh you would you mind you had an exhibit in I believe your staff report so yeah the uh storm water management uh facility is all proposed to be underground um I cannot necessarily speak to the technical specifications to it as the civil engineer um is not with us here tonight um but it is uh it is designed um in accordance with the storm water management uh policy and guidelines and um I believe that we will be required to enter into a storm Mar management agreement if I'm if I'm not mistaken so I'm hearing I'm hearing yes over there so we will um provide the the the mandatory um whether it be annual inspections and and conformance for uh for performance as well so what you're saying is that people won't see it correct it will be all under the private Drive aisle okay and then you're capturing the water from the perious surface are you Capt capturing it from the roofs as well correct yes so all of the uh buildings will have gutters that uh are proposed at this time to be incorporated into rain leaders into the storm water management system okay and then somebody El had raised a question about long-term maintenance so you talk a little bit about your maintenance program what your what the buildings look look like in a year what your plan is for it to look like in 5 years or 10 years and uh how you going to kind of achieve those goals with uh your team and how you go about operating anything you want to speak to on the operating side from a from a maintenance and maybe the green lease if that helps yeah I would just say point out that we have we we utilize Great Lakes management that we do at oura minona and our other amera properties um the appearance of these properties is something at the top of our list always and so maintaining and taking taking care of the Landscaping that we planted the development side and making sure and also because we're planting native plants plants that are drought resistance there is that long-term longevity with those plants um we have two asset managers that visit the property quite frequently um everyone is located in Minnesota which is local to this project um but it's something that's very top on our list will you talk a little bit about your exterior components you made those choices and how that relates to your uh long-term maintenance and the aesthetic of the building over a long period yeah the uh the exterior materials that were chosen were uh really designed um selected to one uh complement the the look aesthetic architectural elements and uh the longevity of the building to the north so uh brick um masonry brick I can't speak to the size but uh real brick um the cement fiberboard panels and then the metal panels and I believe the cement fiberboard and the metal siding all carry extensive robust warranties for for look and fade um and that is again as as owner long-term owner of of these assets that is that has a high priority of ours is to select materials um that will last without having a lot of Capital Improvements in the future um one thing I could um history I could point to is the other two buildings that United property has developed in the city of minaka and the look of those one was open in 2015 and another was open in 2017 I believe um and both of those again are are beautiful additions to the building nine8 nine 10 years later any other questions for the applicant yes commissioner Henry you have another question yeah thank you just one follow up from commissioner Minion's question too it it shows in this slide in front of us that the dark gray the Hardy siding panels have been replaced with the metal just talk about why you made the change I always thought Hardy panels were were pretty Hardy could I that was actually a I'll defer to Drew if that's okay yeah uh commissioner Henry and uh chair so as a part of this area of batonka there are there's a requirement to actually have some higher quality materials uh when staff looks at that brick metal Stone Those are sort of considered higher quality materials so there was a lot of conversation with the architect about what could be used and that was something we came to is increasing the quality actually from that Hardy to a metal pan a metal sighting uh so was something that came up later and it was more through a code requirement as far as the materials sounds good thanks and Janelle on you mentioned about plantings how they're going to be drought resistant too have you had any consideration about making a pollinator friendly plantings in the area yes I should have mentioned that we will also be exploring adding incorporating Urban beekeeping we have those at a bunch of our other assets as well um and so just kind of making this a very pollinator Garden friendly Oasis for nature sounds good yeah if I can make a suggestion too I bet the residents would love to have some kind of a small AP area too so they can Harvest honey and have a some kind of a hobby around there too while protecting our plants and with our pollinators yes so we have Partnerships with three different Urban beekeeping companies um and every November we distribute the honey that is um made at our locations to the residents and tenants at those those um locations and then we also do uh one or two beekeeping events for the residents or tenants as well so that can be uh we've done like a cocktail hour with a bee theme and then having The Beekeeper come in showcase The Hive and kind of like learn about it um or having food trucks or anything like that and then for our residents specifically uh and tenants we have offered if they're really interested in beekeeping they're welcome to join The Beekeeper he comes every two weeks and sort of have that kind of open dialogue as well well thanks more than answer my question sounds great one quick question I have is uh are dogs allowed both at the Amor Villas and the mirror building yes there okay um because I would imagine right now the for the Amir vills is being enjoyed as a large dog area I'm just curious if there's any plans for a dog park or dog relief area um or or maybe not needed well I I guess I wouldn't say it's not needed um but they I think uh as it's currently being used I think was always intended to be a temporary situation um again I I'll point out that large green space that we have to the north um that I I think our residents will just become accustomed to utilizing that green space in it in its current state we do have um uh pet was stations along the sidewalks including around that uh that green space to the north as well to promote the use of that that green space great and that's what I meant by maybe not need as in there's enough existing Green Space all right so great thanks Commissioners any other final questions uh otherwise we may have more but uh I think we're good for now thank you thank you thank you all righty um before uh we open the public hearing I just want to make uh a quick statement make something clear um the plan commission our purview is site design and zoning ordinance I know there's a lot of talk um and other issues uh involved and while those issues are really important uh they're just not for us and not for us here tonight we have no purview over it we have no control um you're welcome to pursue a cause just this just isn't the time and place for it um just is why we don't talk we don't litigate gun control or abortion or any other uh issues here we stick with planning that's what we're focused on so let's make sure if there are any comments they're focused on that so that is uh my ask of anyone in the public who's uh going to speak and if not then we'll close the public hearing uh but I think uh I think we can probably stick with that so I will open the public hearing if anyone would like to come forward and talk about the specifics of this plan uh I would love to hear it if you give us your name and address for the record um we'd love to hear from you your name and address for the uh record that would be great thank you Basque good afternoon my name is Mas and I'm here representing U my colleague named Evelyn Basquez she was not here she was not able to be here due to an [Music] emergency I am a mother of a family whose livelihood depends on working in construction Pro today I'm here to express my worries about the new ordinance that is about to happen giving uh uh opportunity to a project B um done and proposed by United properties unit Pro for the past two years we've been try as workers we've been trying to have a conversation with United properties so that we can have conversation about the different subcontractors that have done works or jobs at some of the projects from United properties in Pro painting America is one of those subcontractors that has uh committed some misclassification uh labor laws violations by incorrectly filing how workers are actually hired for them EP ke service and PK Services a company that is currently under alleged investigation by the Department of Labor due to alleged VI uh labor violations some of this happened during the works or jobsites that happened for the project of United properties the Amir minona but even though we have reached out so many times to meet and talk with United properties we have been ignored I am here and ready to fight in order to protect the next Generations of workers that will not be suffering from what we have suffered so far number one in 20 during the pandemic my husband suffered from wedge death this is something that did not just affect him but it affected the whole family we are a family that lives Check to Check and we did not have any other way to make sure that our family will be protected economically at night I could not be I could not sleep I also had to go uh look for food at different places that help with that I also have to have a conversation and have to talk to my landlord in order to request and ask for a little bit longer time in order to to pay the rent because I was not going to be taking my family to leave under a bridge we were behind in a lot of bills and services we had a newborn baby and also having to take care of two more girls we felt like we also had not could not find the light this can no longer be happening this we cannot allow this to happen because us as wives we uh cry when we have when we see that the wages the salaries of our husbands are not there and we need that money in order to pay for our bills take care of our homes also pay for medical bills pay for insurances and take care of our responsibilities in some cases workers are not even um offer or given insurance which was the case of my husband and we're not the only case we are there's many many families who have suffered like this number [Music] three this is why it's important for the minona planning Commissioners to know that workers have reported PK services so we know that subcontractors have taken advantage of our families our friends that we know and people like us that keep suffering in order to make advances and put an end to this suffering of our families we need that developers like United properties sit down with the workers and have a conversation of the labor conditions that are happening and in order to really bring up the solutions it's important to be heard by to for the workers to be heard and that's why we're asking for United properties to be pushed in order to come to a conversation and to hear the um origin preup preoccupations and worries that the workers have and find a solution to uh these violations that happen in these projects gra for thank you for your attention thank you can we hold hold the hold the Applause please we want to be respectful of everyone thank you does anyone else have anything to say about this site plan I'm I was uh generous and uh let them talk but that was not about this this specific site or anything related to the zoning of this so let's make sure we stick to otherwise uh We've we've had our chance let's make sure we're um sticking on script good afternoon my name is milar I am a painter I'm also a um mother and I'm I'm a single mother and a home um um I'm say I'm also here to share a testimony that it's mine and from a coworker as well sorry what what does this have to do with the site plan can you can you give us feedback on the site plan um yes just kind of like you know based as the questions that you were asking earlier right so such as procurement such as the environment this is something that is important for the community right when uh contractors are actually not taking the right processes to make sure the workers have safety Health the right uh proper ways to you know bring up labor violations when those things don't happen we have testimonies of folks who have gone through those processes who have you know suffered those violations and there are constant and so we're bringing this up because this is something that it's a constant within you not only the uh current proposed project but also who's carrying it so United properties is someone who we have have evidences when workers have suffer from violations under these circumstances so we're trying to make sure that you know they also put in place those processes so that this doesn't happen again yep perfect and and we we've read the the packet and we've been well aware and it's been uh talked about the city council we just don't have any purview over it so again we have no control over it it's been heard the message has uh been received loud and clear so I just don't want to waste waste your time with with it so we're good we talking about honey bees over here we can't talk about exploitation yep we're going to be orderly about this so I just want to make sure that uh we're we're sticking to what uh what we have perview over we suffer this under Direct Services of PK services Pro unary cuz we work individually but we also work as a team uh some of the some of us work on their PK services for a United properties project this was theka project and I also recently learned that PK Services it's under investigation due to their practices of w theft uh and also um labor CH Labor practice labor child labor practices prop this makes me worried because in my mind think about that PK services or other Contra contractors that do labor violations are going to be working on the project for United proper properties that is about to be proposed as a worker and as a a single mother this worries me too because I already went through this situation where my salaries were stolen and I also had to deal with a very hostile and not safe work environment I was harassed and I was threatened and I have to fight for my own stolen wedges [Music] maybe some of us or some of you have never be through this situation and have to worry about how you're going to pay rent or how you're going to feed your kids but I'm here to tell you that this is a reality that happens to a lot of us workers in the industry we are not against any type of construction what we're worried about is that we want to make sure that our rights are protected and that we don't have to go through these struggles again ifka says that it's a city that worries about and cares about families and kids then it's important that these values are extended to all public and all not just a few we hope that from our testimony you guys can push in properties to meet with us the workers and to listen to our worries and to listen to the solutions that we have before this project continues ahead thank you thank you uh good evening and uh thank you Commissioners for um uh hearing my testimony uh my name is Casey hudek I'm with workers Confluence we're a network of unions and Community organizations I'm going to read a testimony from Reena Wong who's the president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union uh they represent uh grocery workers she's is a resident of minona uh she couldn't be here uh this evening but um uh here's her testimony uh I'm a resident of minona and care about our City's commitments to equity and fair treatment for all who work live and learn here to me that means ensuring that labor abuses like wage theft or Worse don't happen here for 2 and a half years workers have been asking United properties to meet about industry conditions United properties has not responded to workers concerns nor committed to a meeting or action steps to ensure safe and dignified work in addition to the stories we've heard from seu leaders I've read troubling news about subcontractors who have worked on United Property sites according to an article published in the American Prospect a company called wolf Construction Services worked on United properties multifam project the Ellie and lower tier wolf Construction Services subcontractors Andor labor Brokers were charged for conduct that included misclassification retaliation against workers and sex trafficking the United States Department of Labor is investigating another contractor PK Services who worked on the Amira minetonka project I want the city to ensure that problematic contractors do not work in minetonka there is no place in our city for building projects that do not respect the basic human dignity of the workers who build them thank you thank you good evening Planning Commission members my name is Kevin Browski it's a wonderful place you're planning and and building um lucky families will be uh very lucky to be living there it's time to uh you're going to take care of them let's take care of people that are going to build it I worked As a caretaker in a high-rise condo for eight years and continue to work in the residential property service industry I'm here today in solidarity with the construction workers who have shared their experiences concerns and are working to improve the construction industry for all workers and to share my concerns about the project United properties is proposing in this ordinance the story of the construction industry is one I understand deeply in residential property Services just like construction good union jobs that offer Fair pay and benefits are undercut by nonunion contractors that can offer a lower price at the expense of the workers the downward Market pressure to offer lower and lower bids economically squeezes contractors that want to pay workers fairly all workers non-union and Union alike suffer from conditions created by companies that that do not pay workers fairly or steal their wages I'm concerned to hear that PK Property Services is under investigation for the US Department of Labor in order to determine if they have complied with minimum wage overtime pay and child labor laws it is deeply troubling that PK Services worked on United properties project air minat tanka and it's disappointing that United properties has for years not responded to construction workers requests to meet with them and hear their concerns I urge the city of motanka to take these labor concerns seriously and to urge United properties to work together with workers and have a safe and dignified working conditions thank you so much for listening thank you [Applause] good evening uh my name is Brianna Kemp I'm the policy lead at se uh you've heard several of our members speak here tonight uh and I just saw this evening in the packet um that United properties submitted a letter in response to a letter that seul sent to city council a couple of months ago naming our concerns um and I've got to say I'm I'm glad to see a response from them cuz as you heard several times here tonight sayth leaders have been reaching out for over two years to try to get a meeting to talk about these concerns uh and we've received no response um I see that in part of their letter it says the issues are important and we are ready to be part of efforts to move all stakeholders I hope that includes workers uh forward with respect an opportunity so I want to say our invitation still stands and we are ready to meet when you are are uh I also uh want to address the letter from PK services in your packet um you heard several people mentioned their company tonight uh and while our members who are here tonight didn't work directly for PK Services uh we have been in contact who did with workers who have uh and I want to share a quote uh from one of the workers who came to se th and shared her story with us she worked for PK Services until the end of 2023 so just last year she said during the two years I was employed I worked many hours there were times I started work at 5: in the morning and didn't return to my house until 10: at night they didn't pay me overtime and when I asked for my check stub my supervisor got mad he told me the check stub doesn't mean anything the only important thing was that I did my job well because of this I didn't have any way to show what I had been paid or all of the hours I worked I also saw in their letter uh that they admit that they found in their own records uh that they didn't properly pay all over time and they are currently paying I think it's said $1,000 in back wages to workers and we have a letter from the United States Department a letter we will send it in followup today that confirms that there is in fact an active investigation against PK Services ongoing so so from what I can see from the testimony we've heard from workers that $111,000 could just be the tip of the iceberg we don't know I want to you can see how many workers took the time to show up here tonight this is clearly something that is really impacting families and communities um so I I understand that the letters have information and I would encourage you to consider uh the concerns that have been brought forward here today and use your position as city leaders uh to encourage United properties uh to do what they said they would in the letter and meet with workers before this project moves forward thank you thank you any other final comments doesn't look like it all right we'll close the public hearing uh Commissioners any final questions are you ready to move on to comments yeah commissioner Bank thanks did you have a question U I think I would have a question for uh Dave applicant you would mind coming back up for a second thank you and just first question would you like to address anything that's been said actually can we that's is kind of out of our our purview a little bit um I think it's it can be done outside of of this is that is that Fair um chair I think and commissioner Banks I think that uh the council the city council specifically asked for a response for United properties so that's why uh because some of the comments had addressed this issue we provided their letter to the Planning Commission also to make sure it becomes public and that everybody has access to the information um you are right it's not a Planning Commission issue it's not something that you uh weigh in on uh that is something the city council did ask for though so when it get in addition to the written response no just to to have a written response I was trying to cut you off have information for the council I I'll leave I'll leave it up to up to you if uh if you have something else you'd like to add that's no just defer to the letter that was provided to staff and included in your packet okay I don't think I'm allowed to ask any more questions about this issue so thanks thank you any other questions doesn't look like it all right uh comments what do we think who would like to go first yeah commissioner Henry thanks chair on the matters that were brought before us that we can address the we can talk about the the feedback that we provided in the previous meeting about higher density lowering carbon footprint and increasing the Green Space it looks like the the applicant addressed all three of those issues and I'm pretty happy that they did so it was a pretty thoughtful redesign of of what they had originally planned which was I think appropriate use for the space this is even more appropriate use for the space I do encourage to make sure that you know properties can reach out make those resources available and it looks like Janelle is doing that for having some resources for sustainability in in getting their electricity and keeping it as carbon neutral as possible so in general I think it's a looks like a sound Proposal with very thoughtful modifications from the previous presentation so I'll be supporting this great thank you other comments I was a bit disappointed um I think we're conversations we had earlier was to have higher density um but I have to say the shade study I understand now I'm glad you got up and spoke to that um I think you've done a good job of putting it all in and and making it uh not impact negatively the the building to the north um it's a great looking project I think you've done a great job with uh making it blend in the neighborhood I appreciate you adding the extra trees and the green space that we do have and the opportunities that you're providing for people to uh use amenities on the uh properties um the walkability I think is great as well um I'll definitely be supporting it I appreciate your uh look into the environmental issues and and impacting that in a positive way and uh just addressing the things that we had talked about earlier it's a good project I'm happy to support it great thank you other comments noje make any comments commissioner Banks okay um yeah I I I think I agree with commissioner minion on would have liked to have seen probably a different concept but I understand why they're why they're doing it and not blowing it up but um from a kind of green perspective I think they've done a good job of making inroads and uh when I saw an a mirror there was actually solar panels on the roof that think that was a one of the first ones I think we've we've seen that actually actually did it so I hopefully that brought a smile to commissioner Henry's uh face um otherwise uh yeah I think uh I think the project does have merits and um in terms of parking I think the parking that can be utilized on the east side uh should be should be adequate so I'm not concerned about parking so all right sounds like we're probably uh ready for a motion um and the recommendation is uh the city council adopt the ordinance uh approving The Proposal uh for items concerning Amir Villas at 901 Carlson Parkway would someone like to make that motion I will make that motion motion Hansen a second second minion staff please pull the commission banks no Hansen yes Henry yes minion yes Su yes uh motion carries and this is a recommendation to the city council that will be on August 26 uh good luck with your proposal all right uh moving on in the agenda to item number nine which is ajour would someone like to make a motion adjourn I will make that motion also uh motion Hansen I'll second second Henry all those in favor signify by saying I I I motion carries we are adjourned good night [Music] [Music]