This transcription has been updated with speaker names based on the context provided, explicit self-introductions within the text, and the official roles of the Minneapolis City Council and staff. [0:22] **Elliot Payne:** GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOT PAYNE, THE PRESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. AND BEFORE WE CONVENE OUR MEETING, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING SINCE THE TRAGIC MASS SHOOTING. I WOULD LIKE TO REFLECT WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR FLETCHER, HARPER, AND THE VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE HERE AT HOME AND ACROSS THE NATION. [0:59] **Elliot Payne:** [ MOMENT OF SILENCE ] THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS OF HONORARY RESOLUTIONS. WE'RE PLEASED TO WELCOME GUESTS TO THE SPACE TO SHARE IN THESE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE TAKING UP OUR AGENDA. FIRST UP IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL DANCE DAY, PRESENTED BY COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. GOOD MORNING. [1:46] **Katie Cashman:** ALL RIGHT. IF WE RUN OUT OF ROOM ON THAT SIDE, FEEL FREE TO KEEP COMING DOWN THIS WAY. MAKE A SECOND ROW. AND ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US IN READING, IF YOU'D LIKE. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING! SO WE'RE HERE TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 20th, 2025 AS NATIONAL DANCE DAY IN MINNEAPOLIS. [2:26] **Katie Cashman:** [ APPLAUSE ] YAY! WHEREAS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT DANCE HAS BEEN CENTRAL TO LAKOTA, DAKOTA, AND OJIBWE HISTORIES, LIFEWAYS, MEDICINE, CEREMONY FOR 10,000 YEARS AND TO THIS DAY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS A CENTER FOR NATIVE AND INDIGENOUS DANCE WITH TRIBAL AFFILIATIONS FROM ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTRY; AND WHEREAS, MINNEAPOLIS IS RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE PREMIER NATIONAL HUBS FOR DANCE IN AMERICA, AND IT HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT AND A HOME FOR SUPPORTING THOUSANDS OF HIGHLY REGARDED CHOREOGRAPHERS, DANCERS, COMPANIES EDUCATORS, DESIGNERS ADMINISTRATORS AUDIENCES, FUNDERS, AND PRESENTING ORGANIZATIONS; AND WHEREAS, MINNEAPOLIS HAS BEEN A LEADER OF DANCE SUPPORT AND PHI INCLUDING SUPPORT FROM THE MCKNIGHT... [3:12] **Katie Cashman:** FOUNDATION, JEROME FOUNDATION, MINNESOTA STATE ARTS BOARD, METROPOLITAN ARTS COUNCIL, AND FOR THE ARTS, AMONGST OTHERS; AND WHEREAS, IMPORTANT INSTITUTIONS PAST AND PRESENT, HAVE SUPPORTED DANCE INCLUDING NORTHROP'S HISTORIC DANCE SERIES, THE WALKER ARTS CENTER, RED EYE THEATER, PATRICKS' CABARET, CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS, HEN CENTER FOR THE ARTS, LUNDSTRUM PERFORMING ARTS, CAPRI THEATER, HENNEPIN ARTS, SOUTHERN THEATER BARKER DANCE CENTER, IVY BUILDING, CEDAR CULTURAL CENTER AND HUNDREDS OF OTHER VENUES, DANCE STUDIOS, AND ARTS SPACES; AND WHEREAS, THERE IS SUCH... [3:57] **Katie Cashman:** ENTHUSIASM FOR DANCE IN MINNEAPOLIS THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS DETERMINED TO MOVE HISTORIC SHUBERT THEATER DOWN THE STREET IN 1999 NEXT TO THE HENNEPIN CENTER FOR THE ARTS TO FORM THE FLAGSHIP COWLES CENTER FOR DANCE AND PERFORMING ARTS, NAMED AFTER SAGE AND JOHN COWLES AND THE GO THEATER NAMED AFTER BOB AND KATHY GOODALE, AND MOVING THE COWLES SET THE GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS FOR THE HEAVIEST BUILDING EVER MOVED ON RUBBER WHEELS, NOT TO BE OUTDONE BY THE WORLD'S LARGEST TAP PARADE THAT HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS WITH 1,800 DANCERS IN 1979 LED BY THE MINNESOTA DANCE THEATER TO PROTEST THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT PREVENTED DANCING IN THE STREETS, WHICH WAS OVERTURNED IN 2010; AND. [4:40] **Katie Cashman:** WHEREAS -- [ APPLAUSE ] [ LAUGHTER ] [ APPLAUSE ] WHEREAS, IN SPRING 2025, AS A RESPONSE TO THE ADVOCACY OF THE DANCE AND ARTS COMMUNITY, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS LAUNCHED THE FUND FOR DANCE PROGRAM TO BRING SUPPORT FOR MINNEAPOLIS CHOREOGRAPHERS, DANCE COMPANIES, EVENT PRODUCERS, AND PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER FOR THE CREATION OF NEW PROJECTS, AND REIMAGINING OLD ONES IN DOWNTOWN AND OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS; AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND YOUNG DANCE TO PROVIDE DANCE CLASSES AND RESIDENCY PROGRAMS IN EVERY MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND MINNEAPOLIS PARK AND BUILDINGS, AND BRING DANCE EDUCATION TO EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY, IMPACTING NEARLY 30,000... [5:26] **Katie Cashman:** STUDENTS; AND WHEREAS, WE RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF DANCE IN PROVIDING ESSENTIAL TO YOUTH DEVELOPMENT IN IMPROVING THEIR MOTOR SKILLS, BOOSTING THEIR CONFIDENCE AND ENHANCING THEIR SOCIAL INTEGRATION AND FRIENDSHIPS SUPPORTING THEIR EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, AND INSPIRING THEIR CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION; AND WHEREAS, IN 2025, ARTS' NEST AND DANCE SCHOOL FORMED A PARTNERSHIP TO BECOME THE NEW OPERATOR OF THE CLOSED COWLES CENTER, BRINGING DANCE BACK TO THE HENNEPIN THEATER DISTRICT AND HENNEPIN CENTER FOR THE ARTS, AFTER 25 YEARS OF STEWARDSHIP BY ARTSPACE; AND [6:12] **Aurin Chowdhury:** WHEREAS, FROM AGES TWELVE TO MINNEAPOLIS YOUTH HAVE REPEATEDLY COMPETED IN AND WON NATIONAL DANCE COMPETITIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WITH THE UMN DANCE TEAM REPEATEDLY GOING VIRAL; AND THE DANCE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR ARTISTIC ACHIEVEMENTS BY IMPORTANT HONORS, GRANTS AND AWARDS, AND THE DANCE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN THE CHAMPIONS OF GLOBAL AESTHETICS, DIVERSE DANCE FORMS SOCIAL ACTIVISM, COMMUNITY BUILDING, AND THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES OF SUPPORTING PRACTITIONERS OF ALL ABILITIES, AGES, BODIES, AND GENDERS; AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WANTS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE GENERATION OF VISIONARY AND DIVERSE ARTISTS INVOLVED IN OUR DANCE COMMUNITY, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE DANCE COMMUNITY AS A VITAL PART OF OUR CULTURAL ECOSYSTEM, TANTAMOUNT TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND A BEACON OF CIVIC PRIDE. WE PROUDLY SAY THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS A CITY OF DANCE; AND WE... [6:57] **Katie Cashman:** RECOGNIZE THAT SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2025, IS THE 15TH NATIONAL DANCE DAY IN MINNEAPOLIS; —NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED— THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 20, 2025, AS NATIONAL DANCE DAY IN MINNEAPOLIS. [7:16] **Katie Cashman:** [ APPLAUSE ] SO MUCH TO CELEBRATE! THANK YOU. SO MUCH TO CELEBRATE AND BE PROUD OF THIS YEAR! SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO BE PART OF THIS ADVOCACY FOR THE DANCE COMMUNITY. I HOPE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A LONG JOURNEY OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS PARTNERING AND CHERISHING AND DEVOTING RESOURCES AND DEDICATION AND ADVOCACY TO THE DANCE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW. AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THAT. [7:49] **Katie Cashman:** I, MYSELF, WAS A COMPETITIVE DANCER AS A YOUNG PERSON. AND THAT REALLY TAUGHT ME THE SKILLS THAT I NEEDED TO BE A THRIVING HUMAN WITH CONFIDENCE AND SELF-AWARENESS AND BEING A PART OF A GLOBAL COMMUNITY, AS WELL. [8:04] **Katie Cashman:** SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THEATER DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN AND UPTOWN ON THE CITY COUNCIL. AND TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH ALL OF YOU TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO DANCE AND TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FORM OF ART. [8:22] **Katie Cashman:** SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS OF ADVOCACY. [8:22] **Danielle Robinson:** HELLO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. AND MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DANIELLE ROBINSON. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE DANCE SCHOOL. AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DANCE COMMUNITY TODAY. [8:43] **Danielle Robinson:** ALONG WITH PARTNER WITH ARTS NEST. RECENTLY ANOINTED THE GIFT OF OPERATING THE KOHLS CENTER FOR DANCE AND PERFORMING ARTS. WE'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS FOR 38 YEARS AT THE HENNEPIN CENTER FOR THE ARTS. TODAY MARKS A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOR OUR VIBRANT DANCE COMMUNITY. [9:04] **Danielle Robinson:** IT IS GREAT EXCITEMENT AND GRATITUDE WE ACKNOWLEDGE A RENEWED COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING CREATIVITY COLLABORATION AND INCLUSIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE DEDICATED TO NURTURING THE ART OF DANCE, AN ART FORM THAT PERSEVERES THE TEST OF TIME CELEBRATION CULTURES AND EVEN TRAUMA. THIS IS A GIFT FOR THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE. [9:25] **Danielle Robinson:** MEANT TO BE SHARED BY ALL. IN THESE EVER-EVOLVING TIMES, WE'RE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE FOR YOUR SUPPORT, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN, AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT EVERY DANCER, EVERY CHOREOGRAPHER, EDUCATOR, STUDENT, AND PRESENTER IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS A VOICE WORTH ACKNOWLEDGING. IT IS ESSENTIAL TO CREATE SPACES WHERE INDIVIDUALS FEEL SAFE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, SHARE THEIR STORIES, AND GROW AS DANCE ARTISTS. AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WITH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND OUR COMMUNITY, WE BECOME A SANCTUARY FOR CREATIVITY, A PLACE WHERE ARTISTIC INNOVATION AND -- THROUGH RICHES. COLLABORATIONS THRIVE. AND DANCE COMMUNITY CAN INSPIRE ONE ANOTHER, AS WELL AS BROADER AUDIENCE IN MINNESOTA. [10:11] **Danielle Robinson:** AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE, WE FIND THAT YOU HAVE PAVED A WAY FOR US TO UNITE IN THE DEDICATION TO SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL ARTISTS, OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, AND TOGETHER WE POSSESS THE POWER TO ELEVATE THE ARTS IN MINNEAPOLIS HIGHLIGHTING OUR OUTSTANDING DANCE COMMUNITY, AND SHOWCASING OUR CITY ON NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL STAGES. WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR HEART FELT GRATITUDE FOR THE TRUST AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE DANCE COMMUNITY. AND YOUR VISION AND YOUR STEADFAST SUPPORT AND FOR BEN JOHNSON AND ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT AND YOUR TEAM TO STEP STEPPING UP TO LEAD THIS NEW CHAPTER. SO LET'S CONTINUE TO NURTURE OUR ARTISTS, LISTEN TO THEM, PROMOTE INCLUSIVITY, AND MAKE MINNEAPOLIS A BEACON FOR HOPE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. [10:58] **Karen Charles:** [ APPLAUSE ] THANKS. THANKS, DANIELLE. I DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW YOU BUT I HAVE TO. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. I AM KAREN CHARLES, THE ARTISTIC AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE DANCE PROJECT. [11:21] **Karen Charles:** I MOVED HERE 25 YEARS AGO. AND WAS IMMEDIATELY AMAZED BY THE VIBRANCY OF THE DANCE COMMUNITY. AND THAT VIBRANCY ENCOURAGED ME TO SHARE MY VOICE AS AN ARTIST. AS A RESULT, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE MY WORK FOR 14 YEARS WITH THE PROFESSIONALLY COMPANY AND TOURING NATIONALLY. WE'VE ALSO OPENED A SPACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE CAN CREATE DANCE, TEACH DANCE, AND MAKE SPACE FOR OTHERS TO CREATE. I WANT TO THE THANK THE CITY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE STEPPING UP AT A TIME THAT IS CRUCIAL AS A DANCE COMMUNITY RECOVERS AFTER THE DEVASTATIONS OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE CURRENT NATIONAL ATTACKS ON ARTS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS. THESE SHIFTS HAVE CAUSED US TO SEE SEVERAL PROFESSIONAL COMPANIES IN THE TWIN CITIES SHUTTERED. [12:06] **Karen Charles:** IT'S BEEN DEVASTATING FOR ALL OF US. MINNESOTA IS KNOWN FOR ITS ADVOCACY AND SUPPORT OF CULTURAL AND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. SO I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT WE HAVE THEIR OWN RESOLUTION TODAY. WHICH I'M PROUD OF! 67% OF NONPROFITS IN THE STATE CURRENT I WILL THAT THEY CAN ONLY OPERATE FOR ABOUT 12 MONTHS. SO, AGAIN, THIS FUNDING AND SUPPORT COMES AT A VERY CRUCIAL TIME. WITH THIS SUPPORT, YOU GIVE A DANCE COMMUNITY HOPE TO WEATHER THE STORM, AND CONTINUE TO BE THE TORCH BEARERS OF CULTURE AND DIVERSITY. WITH THE CITY'S SUPPORT, MAJOR VENUES ARE REOPENING. THE KOHLS CENTER. [12:46] **Karen Charles:** ARTISTS CAN PRESENT THEIR WORK VIA THE BRIDGE FUND. AND YOUTH ARE GUARANTEED DANCE EXPERIENCES TO GET MOVING AND CREATING AND ENGAGING. ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN THEY ARE SEDENTARY ON THEIR PHONES A LOT OF THE TIME. ON BEHALF OF THE DANCE COMMUNITY, I THANK YOU. I ALSO HOPE AND PLEAD THAT THE VALUE YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED NOW WITH THIS SUPPORT IS DOES NOT WANE. BUT GROWS TO ENSURE OUR STATE AND CITY CONTINUE TO BE RECOGNIZED, AND THE DANCE GENERATIONS BEHIND ME, STANDING NEXT TO ME, NEW CREATORS MOVING INTO THE SPACE GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED SO THAT THE DANCE WILL CONTINUE IN THE TWIN CITIES. THANK YOU. [13:34] **Katie Cashman:** [ APPLAUSE ] ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GATHER FOR A GROUP PHOTO. WE HAVE TO BE INSIDE THE BLACK LINES. WE'LL DO MULTIPLE -- [ LAUGHTER ] WE'LL DO MULTIPLE ROWS HERE. [13:49] **Katie Cashman:** WE'LL DO THE SHORTEST IN THE FRONT. [ LAUGHTER ] OKAY, EVERYBODY. FIVE, SIX, SEVEN EIGHT! [16:26] **Elliot Payne:** NEXT WE'LL WELCOME UP COUNCILMEMBERS JENKINS AND CHAVEZ TO RECOGNIZE DOUGLAS REWART DAY. [17:42] **Andrea Jenkins:** GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. IS THIS ON? GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ANDREA JENKINS. WARD 8 CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. AND SO DELIGHTED TO DO THIS RESOLUTION THIS MORNING. ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. HONORING AND RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 13th, 2025 AS DOUGLAS R. EWART DAY. [18:07] **Andrea Jenkins:** [ APPLAUSE ] IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. YES. AND, WHEREAS DOUGLAS EWART HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE 35-YEAR RESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA, AND HAS CONNECTED MINNEAPOLIS AND CHICAGO AS A KALEIDOSCOPIC COMPOSER, IMPROVISER, SCULPTOR, VISUAL ARTIST, INSTRUMENT MAKER, EVENT PRODUCER LECTURER EDUCATOR AND ALL-AROUND VISIONARY; AND WHEREAS, MR. EWART HAS TAUGHT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES HOW TO LISTEN... [18:52] **Andrea Jenkins:** TO AND IMPROVISE MUSIC TOGETHER, HOW TO BUILD AND PLAY INSTRUMENTS MADE FROM SIMPLE OR DISCARDED HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, AND HISTORIES OF THE CARIBBEAN THROUGH MUSIC AND CULTURE. HE'S TAUGHT IN A VARIETY OF SCHOOLS EDUCATIONAL SETTINGS SUCH AS WE WIN, COMPAS, ART START, MACPHAIL SCHOOL OF MUSIC, URBAN GATEWAYS, METRO STATE UNIVERSITY, AND THE SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO; AND MR. EWART PRODUCED MUSICAL AND COMMUNITY RECORDINGS AND EVENTS, INCLUDING BUILDING NUMEROUS GROUPS AND EVENTS SUCH AS QUASAR, ORCHESTRA INVENTIONS THE CLARINET CHOIR, AND SERIES SUCH AS IN THE SPIRIT OF NOMADS... [19:52] **Andrea Jenkins:** COMMUNITY EVENTS INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY ORCHESTRA AND ACTIVITIES PERFORMANCE CREPUSCULE (ACTIVE AT TWILIGHT) WITH AN ACTIVE AUDIENCE, A MICROCOSM OF SOCIETY WHERE MANY DISCIPLINES COULD CONVERGE, STARTED IN MINNEAPOLIS AND BROUGHT TO PHILADELPHIA, CHICAGO, GUELPH, AND PARIS; AND MR. EWART'S SCULPTURE, “THE PEOPLE'S IDIOPHONE,” EXEMPLIFIES HIS SPIRIT - MAKING AN INSTRUMENT SCULPTURE THAT MANY PEOPLE CAN PLAY AT ONCE, AND... [20:38] **Andrea Jenkins:** THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED IN ONE PLACE (AT PILLSBURY HOUSE AND THEATRE) AND HAS BEEN MOBILE - PLAYED IN COMMUNITY PARADES SUCH AS THE MAY DAY PARADE. HIS INVENTED INSTRUMENTS GIVE BROKEN OR DISCARDED ITEMS NEW LIFE AS MAKERS OF SOUND AND DELIGHT. AND HE HAS MADE CLOSE TO 500 SONIC TOPS - SPINNING TOPS MADE OF BALLS RECORDS TOYS AND MATERIALS OF ALL KINDS THAT “SING” WHEN THEY ARE SPUN; AND WHEREAS, MR. EWART HAS BEEN AWARDED MANY GRANTS, FELLOWSHIPS, AND RESIDENCIES NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY, INCLUDING BUSH AND MCKNIGHT FELLOWSHIPS AND DISTINGUISHED... [21:23] **Andrea Jenkins:** ARTIST AWARDS, A US / JAPAN CREATIVE ARTIST FELLOWSHIP, AND IN CHICAGO, MAYOR HAROLD WASHINGTON'S OUTSTANDING ARTIST AWARD; AND WHEREAS, MR. EWART HAS WOVEN HIS REMARKABLY BROAD GIFTS INTO A SINGLE SENSIBILITY THAT ENCOURAGES AND CELEBRATES, AS AN ANTIDOTE TO THE DIVISIONS AND COMPARTMENTALIZATION AFFLICTING MODERN LIFE, THE WHOLENESS OF INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS IN CULTURALLY ACTIVE COMMUNITIES; THROUGH PROJECTS DONE IN DIVERSE MEDIA THROUGHOUT HIS AWARD WINNING AND WIDELY-ACCLAIMED 40-YEAR CAREER; AND ... [21:55] **Jason Chavez:** AND, WHEREAS, ART IS LIFE FOR DOUGLAS R. EWART. HE HAS SHARED PRACTICE AND AN ETHIC OF CARE, CONSERVATION, INVENTION, AND INGENUITY WITH TENS OF THOUSAND OF PEOPLE THROUGH TEACHING, MENTORING, AND SHARING HIS CREATIVE GIFTS ACROSS GENRES. HE IS A STALWART AND GENEROUS FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, AND A SCHOLAR WHO CHALLENGES THE FRAMES THAT CONFINE AND DECONTEXTUALIZE THE ACTIVITIES AND STRUGGLES OF EVERYDAY PEOPLE. HIS INDEFATIGABLE SPIRIT HAS INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED ALL THOSE WHO ENGAGE HIM TO LOVE... [22:42] **Jason Chavez:** THEMSELVES, AND TO LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT; —NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED— THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2025, IN HONOR OF DOUGLAS R. EWART. [23:00] **Andrea Jenkins:** [ APPLAUSE ] I'VE KNOWN DOUGLAS FOR MANY YEARS. DECADES NOW. AND YOU RARELY SEE HIM WITHOUT AN INSTRUMENT. [23:26] **Andrea Jenkins:** [ LAUGHTER ] IF YOU ARE EVER IN ANY COMMUNITY SETTING WITH HIM, THERE WILL BE MUSIC THAT WILL BE MADE. AND YOU WILL BE A PART OF THAT PERFORMANCE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROSITY AND SHARING YOUR LOVE FOR MUSIC WITH OUR COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY YOU STAND UP FOR. AND NOT ONLY DO YOU BRING JOY TO SPACES, BUT YOU ARE A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR JUSTICE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE. I'M... [24:12] **Andrea Jenkins:** HONORED TO OFFER YOU THIS MICROPHONE, IF YOU WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS. [24:12] **Douglas R. Ewart:** I'M HUMBLED. I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY WILL TODAY. [ LAUGHTER ] BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRICKED BY MY FRIENDS. [24:29] **Douglas R. Ewart:** [ LAUGHTER ] BUT I'M REALLY HUMBLED BY THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SUMMARIZE ALL THAT IS JUST OCCURRED. BUT I'M GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL. AND I'M JUST PASSING ON WHAT I'VE GATHERED THROUGH COMMUNITY. AND I'VE BEEN SUPPORTED BY SO MANY IN SO MANY PLACES. THAT IT'S ONLY CORRECT TO GIVE NOT BACK BUT FORWARD. [25:11] **Douglas R. Ewart:** I'M HONORED. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT I'M GOING TO GET THOSE PEOPLE THAT TRICKED ME TODAY. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT, ALSO, THE IMPORTANT STUFF. HAVING FRIENDS. THE IMPORTANT STUFF. DEVELOPING A CIRCLE OF PEOPLE. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BUILD COMMUNITY. IT'S SO CRUCIAL. ESPECIALLY AS YOU GROW YOUNGER. YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF DEVELOPING A CIRCLE OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. ESPECIALLY IN A SOCIETY WHERE OUR ELDERS ARE OFTEN NEGLECTED OR DISCARDED. AND SO I THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS MORE AND MORE AS TIME GOES ON. AND... [25:57] **Douglas R. Ewart:** THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A CLOSER CIRCLE. BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT OCCUR WHEN WE'RE YOUNG, BUT PARTICULARLY AS WE GROW OLDER. IT'S SO CRUCIAL TO RECOGNIZE OUR ELDERS BECAUSE THEY'RE A RESERVOIR OF INFORMATION AND OF COMPASSION THAT YOU CAN'T GET. [26:25] **Douglas R. Ewart:** YOU CAN'T -- YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME THING WHEN YOU'RE YOUNGER. YOU JUST ARE TOO BUSY TRYING TO CONSUME ALL THE BEAUTY THERE IS TO CONSUME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M REALLY, REALLY HONORED. I'M GOING TO GET ... [26:42] **Douglas R. Ewart:** [ LAUGHTER ] DOUGLAS WOULD LEAD IN A CHANT. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE HERE. AND YOU'RE WATCHING, AND THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT. I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT. I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE THE HUMAN... [27:28] **Douglas R. Ewart:** SPIRIT. I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT! I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT! I LOVE MYSELF! I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT! I LOVE MYSELF! I LOVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT! I LOVE MYSELF. I LOVE. [27:50] **Douglas R. Ewart:** I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE. I-I I, I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE ♪ I LOVE THE SPIRIT ♪ ♪ THE SPIRIT OF LOVE I LOVE THE SPIRIT ♪ ♪ THE SPIRIT ♪ ♪ I LOVE I LOVE. [28:09] **Douglas R. Ewart:** I LOVE. I LOVE THE SPIRIT ♪ ♪ I LOVE I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU ♪ ♪ AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU ♪ ♪ ♪ I LOVE I LOVE. [28:36] **Douglas R. Ewart:** I LOVE. I LOVE. I LOVE ♪ [ LAUGHTER ] [ APPLAUSE ] [28:36] **Andrea Jenkins:** I TOLD YOU, YOU WOULD BE A PART OF THE PERFORMANCE! YOU WERE WARNED. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, COME INSIDE THESE BLACK LINES. THANK YOU EVERYBODY! AND YOU CAN SEE DOUGLAS PERFORM AT THE WALKER ARTS CENTER THIS SATURDAY... [29:22] **Andrea Jenkins:** EVENING. AT 7:30. WONDERFUL! [29:50] **Elliot Payne:** NEXT WE'LL HAVE COUNCILMEMBERS WONSLEY AND CHAVEZ RECOGNIZE WELCOMING WEEK. [30:34] **Robin Wonsley:** GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! ALL RIGHT. I GET THE COUNCIL DELEGATION HERE THIS MORNING. ALL RIGHT THEN. WE'RE HERE RECOGNIZING WELCOMING WEEK FOR THIS YEAR 2025. BECAUSE WE ARE A CITY THAT EMBRACES AND WELCOMES ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. ABSOLUTELY. [30:49] **Robin Wonsley:** [ APPLAUSE ] AND THAT IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT IS TRYING AND ACTIVELY WORKING EVERY DAY TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITIES. SO WITH THAT, ME AND MY COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO READ OUR RESOLUTION. AND THEN ALLOW OUR GUESTS TO SHARE SOME WORDS WITH US. SO THAT SAID, ... WHEREAS, WELCOMING WEEK IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION THAT BRINGS TOGETHER NEIGHBORS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS TO BUILD CONNECTIONS, AFFIRM BELONGING, AND STRENGTHEN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION; WHEREAS: EACH YEAR IN SEPTEMBER WELCOMING AMERICA SUPPORTS AND ENCOURAGES LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO... [31:38] **Robin Wonsley:** HOST EVENTS THAT HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUSION AND SHARED PROSPERITY; AND WHEREAS: DURING WELCOMING WEEK, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HOST EVENTS TO BRING TOGETHER RESIDENTS WITH ROOTS IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS BORN OUTSIDE THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING IMMIGRANTS, AND NEW AMERICANS, TO CELEBRATE AND FOSTER MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND BELONGING ACROSS THE NATION; WHEREAS, THIS YEAR WELCOMING WEEK WILL OCCUR SEPTEMBER 12 THROUGH 21, 2025, AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS RECOGNIZED AS... [32:26] **Jason Chavez:** A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE CITY WHOSE SUCCESS DEPENDS ON ENSURING THAT EVERY RESIDENT FEELS THEY BELONG IN THE CITY THEY CALL HOME; AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRADITIONAL ROOTS IN MINNESOTA OR ARRIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS AS IMMIGRANTS, REFUGEES, OR NEWCOMERS OWN HOMES, START BUSINESSES, AND ARE MEMBERS OF OUR MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY; AND [33:12] **Jason Chavez:** WHEREAS, BY FOSTERING A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL—REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS, RACE, ETHNICITY, PLACE OF ORIGIN, ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROFICIENCY, RELIGION, INCOME, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DIFFERING ABILITIES, AGE, AND OTHER FACTORS—WE ENHANCE THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS' HEALTH, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, AND WELL-BEING FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS; AND COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN LONG-TIME RESIDENTS AND FOREIGN-BORN COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE CRUCIAL TO ENSURING A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT; AND MINNEAPOLIS JOINS WITH OTHER MINNESOTA CITIES IN STANDING TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN A WELCOMING STATE WHERE ALL WHO LIVE HERE FEEL THEY BELONG AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE; —NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED— THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL... [34:00] **Robin Wonsley:** HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE WELCOMING WEEK ON SEPTEMBER 12-21, 2025, AND REAFFIRM A COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AS A WELCOMING CITY ONE WHICH FOSTERS A SENSE OF BELONGING AMONG ALL ITS RESIDENTS, INCLUDING RESIDENTS WITH DEEP ROOTS IN MINNEAPOLIS AND MINNESOTA AS WELL AS RESIDENTS FROM EVERY PART OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR WORLD. [34:24] **Robin Wonsley:** YAY. [ APPLAUSE ] SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY, AND COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. AND ALL OF MY COUNCILMEMBER COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE LEADERSHIP OF DIRECTOR KAREN AS WELL AS DIRECTOR MICHELLE WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO LEAD OUR CITY AND ITS WORK OF MAKING SURE EVERY RESIDENT KNOWS WE'RE HERE TO ADVOCATE AND SUPPORT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE. WHEN WE DON'T, TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE RESOURCES. SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY COME FROM. AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN HERE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT TO -- YES. [35:08] **Karen Mow:** GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KAREN MOW. SHE/HER PRONOUNS. MOST OF YOU KNOW ME AS THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS. I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING OUR CITY IN THIS ROLE. I WANTED TO JUST SHARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF PERSONALLY TODAY. [35:27] **Karen Mow:** I DON'T DO THAT VERY OFTEN WHEN I HAVE A MICROPHONE. I'M THE DAUGHTER OF AN IMMIGRANT AND MY MOTHER MOVED TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN SHE FELL IN LOVE AND GOT MARRIED. AND SHE MADE THE DECISION TO NOT JUST RAISE MYSELF AND MY SIBLINGS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. SHE CHOSE TO BECOME A UNITED STATES CITIZEN SO SHE COULD PARTICIPATE CIVICALLY IN OUR LIFE. AND THAT INSTILLED IN ME A SENSE. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE GROWING UP. AND CREATING A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE. BUT I ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE WELCOMED. AND TO FEEL LIKE I BELONG. AND I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NOT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS EXPERIENCE. THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS HAS BEEN CELEBRATING... [36:14] **Karen Mow:** WELCOMING WEEK SINCE 2017 AND ALTHOUGH IT'S THE EIGHTH YEAR THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, THIS YEAR FEELS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE COMING OUT AND EXPLAINING THAT WE DO THIS BECAUSE IT REFLECTS OUR VALUES AS A CITY. ALL OF US. NO MATTER WHERE WE COME FROM. NO MATTER HOW LONG WE HAVE BEEN HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. WE KNOW THAT WE ARE WELCOMING PEOPLE AND THAT EVERYONE DESERVES TO FEEL WELCOMED. AND THEY BELONG. SO WE'RE ESPECIALLY EXCITED FOR COUNCIL TO BE HONORING THIS SERIES OF EVENTS THIS WEEK. WE INVITE EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND JOIN US! OR TO TAKE SOME TIME. [36:49] **Karen Mow:** WHETHER YOU'RE WELCOMING OTHERS OR YOU ARE SEEKING OUT WAYS TO BE WELCOMED. PLEASE CELEBRATE THIS WEEK. COME OUT AND JOIN! YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE TO SEE ALL OF THE FABULOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE WELCOMING PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR COLLEAGUE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. [37:12] **Brianna (Welcoming America):** THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRIANNA. THE SENIOR MIDWEST REGIONAL MANAGER FOR WELCOMING AMERICA. A NATIONAL NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION LEADS A MOVEMENT OF INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES BECOMING MORE PROSPEROUS BY ENSURING EVERYONE BELONGS AND HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT ALL RESIDENTS, INCLUDING IMMIGRANTS, ARE VALUED CONTRIBUTORS AND ARE VITAL TO OUR SUCCESS AND SHARED FUTURES. [37:37] **Brianna:** WELCOMING AMERICA CONVENES A NETWORK OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. AND ONE OF OUR FAVORITE THINGS TO DO EVERY YEAR IS OUR ANNUAL WELCOMING WEEK CELEBRATION. WE'VE BEEN CELEBRATING FOR 13 YEARS NOW. WHEN WELCOMING WEEK STARTED, IT WAS ORIGINALLY JUST A VERY SMALL HANDFUL OF OUR MEMBERS HAVING EVENTS. AND IT HAS GROWN NOW TO BE A GLOBAL CAMPAIGN WITH THOUSANDS OF EVENTS BEING CELEBRATED. NOT JUST HERE ACROSS THE U.S. BUT ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. WE'RE EXCITED THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CONTINUES TO BE SUCH A STRONG PARTNER IN THIS WELCOMING WORK. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY AS A PART OF OUR MEMBER NETWORK TO LOOK TO AS AN EXAMPLE FOR WONDERFUL WELCOMING WORK THAT OTHERS CAN LEARN FROM AND EMULATE, AS WELL. [38:23] **Brianna:** AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO COMMEMORATE THE READING OF THIS RESOLUTION. AND THE BEGINNING OF WELCOMING WEEK, STARTING TOMORROW! THANK YOU SO MUCH! [ APPLAUSE ] [38:23] **Robin Wonsley:** ANY OTHER WORDS? NO. ALL RIGHT. SHORT AND SWEET. ALL RIGHT THEN. WE'RE GOING TO DO A PHOTO. AND DO I HAND THIS OVER TO YOU? YEAH. YOU SHOULD TAKE IT. YEAH! YEAH. AND THEN, YES. AND THEN WE CAN GET TOGETHER. BETWEEN THE TWO BLACK LINES. [39:24] **Elliot Payne:** FINALLY, WE'LL BE RECOGNIZING VICTORIA JACKSON WITH COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY AND MYSELF. [40:08] **Aurin Chowdhury:** GOOD MORNING. HONORING THE COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE SEARCH FOR VICTORIA JACKSON. WHEREAS, ON THE EVENING OF AUGUST 2, 2025, COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAME AWARE THAT 12-YEAR-OLD VICTORIA WENT MISSING NEAR MINNEHAHA FALLS; AND LONGTIME FAMILY FRIENDS DANIELLE MATTHIAS, JACQUELINE ROBINSON, KARLA HERNANDEZ, AND JENNIFER CLEMENT ORGANIZED SEVERAL COMMUNITY SEARCH EFFORTS, CREATED A FACEBOOK PAGE, WENT DOOR TO DOOR IN THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS ASKING NEIGHBORS FOR... [40:55] **Aurin Chowdhury:** INFORMATION, AND POSTED FLYERS ACROSS SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS IN HOPES OF FINDING VICTORIA; AND THE SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER TO CANVASS THE AREAS NEAR MINNEHAHA FALLS REGIONAL PARK AND BEYOND. THE SEARCH WAS SUPPORTED BY NEIGHBORS ACROSS MINNEAPOLIS, BY LOCAL EDUCATORS, OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS, PARENTS, AND FAMILIES IN THE AREA; AND [41:42] **Elliot Payne:** WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS, FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE OFFICERS, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND METRO TRANSIT WORKED IN PARTNERSHIP AND TIRELESSLY TO FIND VICTORIA JACKSON AND REACH THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS TO ALERT THEM OF THE SITUATION; AND VICTORIA HAS TYPE ONE DIABETES AND WAS WITHOUT HER MEDICATION, ADDING TO THE... [41:42] **Elliot Payne:** URGENCY OF THE SEARCH FOR HER; THE SEARCH EFFORT TO FIND VICTORIA WAS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE POWER OF COMMUNITY AND COLLECTIVE ACTION; AND BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS FACE DISPROPORTIONATE RATES OF VIOLENCE AND NEGLECT, WITH BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS OFTEN OVERLOOKED IN PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MISSING AND MURDERED INDIVIDUALS. IN 2020, DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 15% OF THE FEMALE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES THEY ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY 34% OF ALL MISSING GIRLS AND WOMEN REPORTED (90,333 OUT OF 268,884); AND WHEREAS, CASES INVOLVING MISSING GIRLS AND WOMEN REMAIN OPEN FOUR TIMES LONGER THAN THOSE INVOLVING OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS ON AVERAGE, HIGHLIGHTING DISPARITIES IN THE ATTENTION AND RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO THESE CASES; AND ADDRESSING VIOLENCE AGAINST... [42:34] **Aurin Chowdhury:** BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS REQUIRES AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORICAL AND PRESENT DAY MANIFESTATIONS OF SYSTEMIC RACISM AND SEXISM, WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR INCREASED VULNERABILITY; AND THE RAPID RESPONSE FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SUPPORT TO THE FAMILY WERE ESSENTIAL IN FINDING VICTORIA; VICTORIA JACKSON WAS FOUND ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 5, AND WAS RETURNED TO HER FAMILY AND LOVED ONES —NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED— THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR DANIELLE MATHIAS, JACQUELINE ROBINSON, KARLA HERNANDEZ, JENNIFER CLEMENT, MEMBERS OF THE NORTHSTAR SEARCH AND RESCUE, THE BLACK AND MISSING FOUNDATION, OFFICE OF MISSING BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS, TOUCHED BY TYPE ONE MINNESOTA, MINNESOTA FREEDOM FUND, AND ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ASSISTED WITH THE SEARCH FOR VICTORIA... [43:21] **Aurin Chowdhury:** JACKSON FOR THEIR SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS AND EFFORTS TO FIND VICTORIA JACKSON AND RESULTED IN HER SAFE RETURN HOME. [ APPLAUSE ] I JUST, FIRST, WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO DR. JOHNSON FOR CALLING MY OFFICE AND HELPING US ORGANIZE THIS RECOGNITION. IT FEELS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AND TO YOU AND TO BRIANNA, I CANNOT IMAGINE JUST THE IMMENSE, IMMENSE DESPAIR, DEVASTATION, PANIC YOU FELT AS LOVING GRANDPARENT, PARENT TO VICTORIA. [44:06] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND TO YOU, DANIELLE, AND JACQUELINE. I WILL SAY, OUR COMMUNITY WAS JUST WATCHING WITH BATED BREATH. [44:22] **Aurin Chowdhury:** IT WAS INSPIRATIONAL TO WATCH YOU RUN TOWARD FIGURING OUT HOW TO PULL TOGETHER THE EFFORTS AND GIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS A WAY TO COME TOGETHER IN COLLECTIVE ACTION. TO JUST SHOW SO MUCH CARE FOR NOT ONLY VICTORIA, BUT ALL OF THE CHILDREN IN OUR CITY. [44:40] **Aurin Chowdhury:** ESPECIALLY OUR BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS CHILDREN THAT OFTENTIMES ARE OVERLOOKED IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. SO I JUST FEEL REALLY GRATEFUL THAT TODAY WE GET TO RECOGNIZE YOU IN YOUR EFFORTS. SO JUST THANK YOU, AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SAY SOME WORDS. [45:03] **Danielle Mathias:** HI, MY NAME IS DANIELLE. I STAND HERE TODAY ALONGSIDE MY SISTER, JACQUELINE ROBINSON. WE ARE KNOWN BY MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY AS THE AUNTIES. [45:18] **Danielle Mathias:** AS THE AUNTIES, WE WERE UPLIFTED BY SO MANY WHO RALLIED ALONGSIDE US TO BRING TOGETHER OUR COMMUNITY IN THE SEARCH FOR VICTORIA. THEIR STRENGTH AND WISDOM AND WILLINGNESS TO STEP FORWARD UPLIFTED US AUNTIES. [45:35] **Danielle Mathias:** EMBOLDENING US TO TRUST OUR INSTINCTS AND MOVE WITH ACTION. TURNING A FRIGHTENING MOMENT INTO A MOMENT OF CARE. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS RESOLUTION. AND ALL WHO CAME TOGETHER IN THE SEARCH FOR VICTORIA. AND IN A MOMENT OF FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, WE TRUSTED ONE ANOTHER AND SHOWED UP FOR EACH OTHER. AS NEIGHBORS, FAMILY, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR PERMISSION. WE DIDN'T WAIT FOR POLICIES. THERE WEREN'T THRESHOLDS WE HAD TO MEET BEFORE ACTION COULD BE TAKEN. WE KNEW WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDED, AND WE MOVED WITH LOVE, COURAGE, AND DETERMINATION. THIS RECOGNITION BELONGS WITH EVERYONE WHO RESHARED OUR FACEBOOK POST, WHO POSTED A FLYER, WHO DOOR KNOCKED, LET US CAMP OUT IN THEIR COFFEE SHOP. WE PROVED... [46:21] **Danielle Mathias:** THAT THE DEPTH OF OUR CONNECTION IS WITHIN US. AND WHEN IT MATTERS MOST, COMMUNITY WILL ALWAYS SHOW UP. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] [46:21] **Aurin Chowdhury:** OKAY. THANK YOU. WHY DON'T WE TAKE A PICTURE HERE. [47:26] **Elliot Payne:** [ APPLAUSE ] THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SEPTEMBER 11th TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [47:42] **Jason Chavez:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [47:42] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [47:42] **Jeremiah Ellison:** HERE. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. [47:42] **Emily Koski:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [47:42] **Robin Wonsley:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [47:42] **Andrea Jenkins:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [47:42] **Linea Palmisano:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [47:42] **Aurin Chowdhury:** PRESENT. [47:42] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [47:58] **Katie Cashman:** PRESENT. [47:58] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. [47:58] **Jamal Osman:** PRESENT. [47:58] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [47:58] **Michael Rainville:** PRESENT. [47:58] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [47:58] **Aisha Chughtai:** PRESENT. [47:58] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [47:58] **Elliot Payne:** PRESENT. [47:58] **Casey Carl:** 13 MEMBERS PRESENT. [47:58] **Elliot Payne:** LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE ALL, SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF OUR SPEECH SO WE CAN CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. WITH THAT, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING BEFORE US. [48:41] **Elliot Payne:** ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [48:41] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. BEFORE YOU, I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE UNDER THE ORDER OF NOTICE OF INTRODUCTION, NOTICE OF INTENT RELATING TO FIREARM REGULATIONS. [49:03] **Jason Chavez:** SECOND. [49:03] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER -- I'M SORRY, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [49:19] **Aisha Chughtai:** UMM, IN QUEUE TO MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION. [49:19] **Elliot Payne:** OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADDING COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY'S ITEM TO THE AGENDA. SAY AYE. [49:19] **Council Members:** AYE. [49:19] **Elliot Payne:** OPPOSED SAY NAY. THAT CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL RECOGNIZE VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [49:35] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PAPER, UMM, IN FRONT OF US TODAY. SO THE ITEM I'M REFERRING TO, UMM, HAS -- SAYS CALL TO ORDER ITEM NUMBER TWO. IT'S THE SECOND, UMM, THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND THIS IS ALSO AMENDING OUR AGENDA TO ADD A NOTICE OF INTRODUCTION UNDER THE ORDER OF NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS RELATING TO EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME. I'LL MOVE IT FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. [50:06] **Council Member:** SECOND. [50:06] **Elliot Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE AYES HAVE IT. AND THAT ITEM HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA, AS AMENDED. [50:27] **Council Member:** SO MOVED. [50:27] **Council Member:** SECOND. [50:27] **Elliot Payne:** THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [50:27] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [50:27] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [50:27] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [50:27] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [50:27] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [50:27] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [50:27] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [50:27] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [50:27] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [50:42] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [50:42] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [50:42] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [50:42] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [50:42] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [50:42] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [50:42] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [50:42] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [50:42] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [50:42] **Casey Carl:** 13 AYES. [50:42] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 21st, AND THE SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 8th. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES. [51:00] **Council Member:** SO MOVED. [51:00] **Council Member:** SECOND. [51:00] **Elliot Payne:** THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [51:00] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [51:00] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [51:00] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [51:00] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [51:00] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [51:00] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [51:00] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [51:00] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [51:00] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [51:15] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [51:15] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [51:15] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [51:15] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [51:15] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [51:15] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [51:15] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [51:15] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [51:15] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [51:15] **Casey Carl:** 13 AYES. [51:15] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO PROPER COMMITTEES. [51:31] **Elliot Payne:** MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION, PLEASE. [51:31] **Council Member:** SO MOVED. [51:31] **Council Member:** SECOND. [51:31] **Elliot Payne:** CALL THE ROLL. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [51:31] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [51:31] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [51:31] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [51:31] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [51:31] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [51:31] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [51:31] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [51:31] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [51:31] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [51:46] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [51:46] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [51:46] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [51:46] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [51:46] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [51:46] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [51:46] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [51:46] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [51:46] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [51:46] **Casey Carl:** 13 AYES. [51:46] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATIONS OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [52:10] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD 25 ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS ORDINANCE. SECOND IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AND CITY HEALTH OFFICIALS OF AIRFARE, HOTEL, MEALS, TRANSPORTATION, AND INCIDENTALS. [52:32] **Robin Wonsley:** THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AND CITY HEALTH OFFICIALS OF REGISTRATION, TRANSPORTATION, LODGING, AND APPROPRIATE MEALS AND INCIDENTALS. FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE WISCONSIN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF REGISTRATION AND LODGING. [52:50] **Robin Wonsley:** FIVE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE COMMUNITIES FIRST INFRASTRUCTURE ALLIANCE FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING EXPENSES. SIX IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA EMERGENCY MANAGERS OF LODGING AND MEALS FOR FOUR DAYS. SEVEN IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA EMERGENCY MANAGERS OF LODGING AND MEALS FOR FOUR DAYS. EIGHT IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM CITYMATCH OF REGISTRATION, TRANSPORTATION, LODGING AND MEALS AND APPROPRIATE INCIDENTALS. NINE IS A CONTRACT WITH CAIRN SCOW ACCESS RESOURCE LLC FOR REAL-TIME VIDEO CAPTIONING SERVICES. 10 IS A CONTRACT WITH IGA CONSULTING LLC... [53:37] **Robin Wonsley:** FOR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING PROGRAM MANAGER SERVICES. 11 IS A CONTRACT WITH THE RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF CUNY ON BEHALF OF JOHN JAY COLLEGE-NATIONAL NETWORK FOR SAFE COMMUNITIES FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS FOR THE GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM. 12 IS A CONTRACT WITH THE CORNERSTONE ADVOCACY SERVICE TO OPERATE A 48-HOUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRISIS HOTLINE. 13 IS A CONTRACT WITH DARC LUOMA COACHING & CONSULTING LLC FOR NEW ELECTED OFFICIAL ORIENTATION PROGRAM, STRATEGIC ADVANCE, AND PLANNING SESSIONS. [54:16] **Robin Wonsley:** AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT/EXECUTIVE COACHING FOR THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND CABINET. THIS ITEM WAS SENT FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. 14 IS A UTILITY EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH NORTHERN STATES POWER AT 2635 UNIVERSITY AVENUE NORTHEAST. 15 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH GROUP HEALTH PLAN INC. AND SUMMIT ORTHOPEDICS FOR OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH SERVICES. 16 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SHEEHY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR ROOFING AND SKYLIGHT REPAIR PROJECT. 17 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SHORT ELLIOT HENDRICK SONS INC... [54:54] **Robin Wonsley:** FOR THE NICOLLET AVENUE BRIDGE OVER MINNEHAHA CREEK HISTORIC BRIDGE FOR REHABILITATION PROJECT. 18 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH STANTEC CONSULTING SERVICES FOR THE UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL PROJECT. [55:11] **Robin Wonsley:** 19 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH HILL CREST DEVELOPMENT FOR PUBLISHING WORKS PARKING AT 900 SIXTH AVENUE SOUTHEAST. 20 IS A BID FOR FEDERAL COURTHOUSE PARKING RAMP SECURITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 21 IS A BID FOR PUBLIC WORKS ALLEY SNOWPLOWING PROJECT. 22 IS A BID FOR PUBLIC TOWS SERVICES FOR ZONES 2 AND 4. 23 IS A BID FOR MINNEAPOLIS CONVENTION CENTER ART WALL LIGHTING. 24 IS AN ELECTION JUDGE AND DEPUTY CITY CLERK APPOINTMENTS FOR NOVEMBER 4, 2025, GENERAL ELECTION. 25 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF YAMIKA GILLEYLEN. AND WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ALL... [55:58] **Robin Wonsley:** ITEMS FOR APPROVAL, INCLUDING A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 13. I'LL PULL ITEM NUMBER 1 FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE. [55:58] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT. PULLING ITEM NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS? SEEING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, CLERK. [56:22] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [56:22] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [56:22] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [56:22] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [56:22] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [56:22] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [56:22] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [56:22] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [56:22] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [56:37] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [56:37] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [56:37] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [56:37] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [56:37] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [56:37] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [56:37] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [56:37] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [56:37] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [56:37] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 13 AYES. [56:53] **Elliot Payne:** THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 1. AND RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [56:53] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS MY ORDINANCE RELATING TO SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THIS ORDINANCE WILL HELP THE COUNCIL UTILIZE OUR OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY BY ENSURING THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN MPD PURCHASES SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT OR PURSUES CONTRACTS REGARDING SURVEILLANCE. AND NOW THE VERSION THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT I WILL MOTION FOR APPROVAL, WILL INCLUDE WHEN THE CONTRACT OR UTILIZE DATA COLLECTION AND CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE IS NO FINANCIAL COST. THIS AMENDMENT WAS IN RESPONSE TO HELPFUL FEEDBACK FROM ADVOCACY GROUPS THAT HAVE WORKED AT THE CITY, STATE, AND NATIONAL LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT SURVEILLANCE... [57:39] **Robin Wonsley:** TECHNOLOGIES AND POLICIES COME WITH GUARDRAILS TO ENSURE THAT CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE PROTECTED. IF ANY, ONCE AGAIN, THE VERSION BEFORE YOU INCORPORATE'S SURVEILLANCE DATA THAT MPD MAY USE IN THE FUTURE BY BORROWING OR RECEIVING SURVEILLANCE DATA FROM ANOTHER AGENCY'S OWN EQUIPMENT. AGAIN, THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A LOOPHOLE BY ADVOCATES. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, TO ADDRESS THAT AND IDEALLY CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE. WHILE THE ORDINANCE IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZES SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY, OF COURSE, THERE'S MORE WORK THAT BE DONE AROUND THIS ISSUE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH COLLEAGUES WHO AIM TO ALSO CARRY... [58:26] **Robin Wonsley:** THAT WORK FORWARD. AND, ALSO, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN THIS MATTER. AND STRENGTHENING PROTECTIONS AROUND SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES AND DATA COLLECTIONS. I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, AS I DID AT C.O.W. [58:45] **Robin Wonsley:** AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I AM GOING TO BE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO ADVANCE A NOTICE OF INTRODUCTION RELATED TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS WORK, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CREATING A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MASTER LIST OF ALL THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT FALLS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF SURVEILLANCE BASE OR OUTLINED IN THIS ORDINANCE, SHOULD IT PASS. [59:09] **Robin Wonsley:** THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS WORK. AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING YOU ALL. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND ASK FOR A SECOND. [59:32] **Council Member:** SECOND. [59:32] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [59:32] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, FOR WORKING ON THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS THEY'RE CONCERNED DIFFERENT SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES. AND IT'S HARD TO ANSWER WHAT WE EVEN HAVE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD -- IT'S BEFORE YOU. UNDER 2B. [59:59] **Katie Cashman:** WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY PUBLISH -- THAT THE CITY HOST A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE ISSUE THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR A SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY, RATHER THAN WHEN THAT CONTRACT HAS ALREADY BEEN INITIATED, NEGOTIATED, AND WORKED ON WITH THE VENDORS. I WAS GIVEN THIS FEEDBACK BY SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY WORKS IN TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTING FOR CITIES. AND SAID THIS IS A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THIS. BECAUSE THIS WAY WE CAN WEIGH IN AND THE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN ON THE DECISION TO DO AN RFP AND SOLICIT VENDORS TO DO SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE STAFF TIME. [1:00:42] **Katie Cashman:** BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T WORK ON A CONTRACT AND BUILD OUT A CONTRACT AND THEN BRING THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO GET INPUT AFTER ALL THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO SAVE STAFF TIME. AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT -- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN AT TIME OF AN RFP BEING ISSUED. RATHER THAN ONCE A CONTRACT HAS BEEN DONE. [1:01:05] **Elliot Payne:** SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WAS MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. I SEE CITY ATTORNEY IN PRIORITY QUEUE. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? [1:01:21] **Kristyn Anderson:** YEAH, THANKS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBERS, AS THIS AMENDMENT IS WRITTEN, IT DOES NOT COMPORT WITH GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE OF THE PURCHASING THE DECISION TO REQUEST PROPOSALS, THE CONTENT OF A REQUEST PROPOSALS, OR FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES IS AN EXCLUSIVELY ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION. SO THE COUNCIL CAN'T CONDITION DOING THAT WORK ON HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. WE JUST -- WE COMMUNICATED VERY BRIEFLY WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER YESTERDAY AND COMMUNICATED THAT INFORMATION. [1:01:58] **Kristyn Anderson:** AND JUST SAW THIS LANGUAGE JUST MAYBE ABOUT 20 MINUTES AGO. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP DRAFT THAT CAN SATISFY WHAT IT IS THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER IS LOOKING FOR. BUT AS DRAFTED, THIS IS -- THIS DOES NOT COMPORT WITH GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. [1:02:21] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? [1:02:21] **Katie Cashman:** UMM, YEAH. I THINK IT'S -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, LIKE, WHICH PART OF THE CITY CHARTER THIS DOESN'T COMPORT WITH. OR WHETHER IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN AMEND. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT THIS WEEK. THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WEIGH IN ON AND A POLICY, YOU KNOW, ON A POLICY BASIS. AND, ALSO, ARE SEEING THE IMPACTS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO WEIGH IN FROM PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE ON THE FRONTEND OF DOING CONTRACTING. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BODY TRIES TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. IN LINE WITH THE CITY CHARTER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EVIDENCE FOR THAT. OR WHERE IT'S MENTIONED. AND IF THERE'S A WAY FOR THE COUNCIL TO ALSO SHIFT... [1:03:09] **Katie Cashman:** POLICIES OR WEIGH IN ON POLICIES TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. [1:03:09] **Robin Wonsley:** DID COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN WANT A RESPONSE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THAT LINE OF INQUIRY? [1:03:26] **Elliot Payne:** MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? [1:03:26] **Kristyn Anderson:** SURE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBERS. SO THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IS IN CHARTER. IT GIVES TO THE MAYOR THE POWER TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS. [1:03:42] **Kristyn Anderson:** THAT'S JUST THE SEPARATION OF POWERS THAT OUR CHARTER CREATES. WE ALSO HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THAT SEPARATION OF POWERS THAT GIVE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION THE EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY OVER RFPS, OVER PURCHASING AUTHORITIES. SO IT IS AN ORDINANCE, BUT THOSE ORDINANCES ARE REQUIRED BY THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF SEPARATION OF POWERS THAT EXIST ON OUR CHARTER. [1:04:08] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE AND CITY ATTORNEY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO REWORD THIS AS A REPORTING REQUIREMENT, EVEN ON THE FRONTEND? WHERE THE CITY WOULD REPORT TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON THEIR PLANS TO ISSUE RFPS FOR SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY? [1:04:26] **Kristyn Anderson:** COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBERS. I WOULD -- I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON-THE-FLY. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND SEE WHETHER THERE IS A PATH THERE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIX THINGS ON-THE-FLY. THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO DO LEGAL DRAFTING. [1:04:51] **Katie Cashman:** WITH THAT, I WOULD MOTION TO HOLD THIS A CYCLE TO ALLOW FOR US TO FIND A WAY TO GET THIS PROACTIVE INPUT ON THE FRONT END OF A RFP FOR SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. [1:04:51] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED TO HOLD THIS ITEM FOR A CYCLE. IS THERE A SECOND? [1:05:10] **Aisha Chughtai:** SECOND. [1:05:10] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ORDINANCE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW. AND IN AO, I SHARED FEEDBACK FOR THE COUNCILMEMBER TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DRAFT AMENDMENT THAT ALIGNED WITH THEIR INTENT. EVEN JUST TODAY I -- WHEN RECEIVING THIS AMENDMENT RIGHT BEFORE COMMITTEE, I INQUIRED AROUND WHAT THE CONFLICTS WOULD BE REGARDING OUR CURRENT... [1:05:56] **Robin Wonsley:** PROCUREMENT WHERE FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT WE PASSED THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO REVIEW RFPS. WHILE I GET THE INTENTION OF THE COUNCILMEMBER, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THIS WORK FOR SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN ANYWAYS TO DO FURTHER REFINEMENT ON. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY FEELS VERY SOLID TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL UNDERLYING ORDINANCE. AND IDEALLY WORK WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER ON SUBSEQUENT, WHICH I BELIEVE I'VE SHARED WITH YOU -- ON SUBSEQUENT ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRES A REOPENING OF THIS CHAPTER. THEN WE CAN BRING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE REFINED. [1:06:35] **Robin Wonsley:** BUT I WILL SAY, AGAIN, HAVING A WEEK TO GET THIS FIGURED OUT. I REALLY -- I REALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS TIME THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER COULD HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BRING SOMETHING SOLID THAT WE COULD SUPPORT TODAY. I FEEL LIKE A WEEK WAS ENOUGH. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HOLDING THIS OVER ANOTHER CYCLE. [1:07:00] **Aisha Chughtai:** AH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, YOU KNOW, I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION TODAY TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM A CYCLE. BUT I AM -- I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE QUESTION HERE. RIGHT. UMM, THIS IS NOT AN AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES THE ADMINISTRATION TO INCORPORATE ANY AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK THAT COMES FROM A PUBLIC HEARING. [1:07:29] **Aisha Chughtai:** UMM, IN FACT, THERE ARE MANY PLACES IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE US TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR TO ISSUING A LICENSE, PRIOR TO CONTINUING WITH BUSINESS. THAT'S OUTLINED IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. I, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT OF ENTERING INTO CONTRACTS AND PUBLISHING REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL. BUT THERE ARE LIMITS TO THAT RIGHT THAT REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THIS BODY PRIOR TO THE PUBLISHING OF RFPS. AND SO I MEAN, I DON'T -- I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT... [1:08:16] **Aisha Chughtai:** OF A STRETCH FOR US TO GET INTO A GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE THING ON THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, TO BE A PART OF DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE DAIS TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN UP IN ONE CYCLE OR IS TAKEN UP AS COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY REOPENS THIS ORDINANCE. [1:08:45] **Aisha Chughtai:** I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. [1:08:50] **Jason Chavez:** THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. IT SEEMS LIKE THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS BEEN WORKING ON IS PRETTY FLESHED OUT. I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN IS BRINGING FORWARD, BUT I MEAN, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW YOUR AMENDMENT, ALLOW THE ORDINANCE TO PASS, AND JUST DO A NEW NOTICE OF INTENT TO ADDRESS THE INCIDENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. I HAVE A FEELING THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD PROBABLY COOK UP A NEW NOTICE OF INTENT, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE. [1:09:23] **Jason Chavez:** BUT THAT WAY -- I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR CONCERNS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT CYCLE. IN THE NEXT MONTH. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER IDEAS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE. BUT I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, I HAVE AGREEMENT WITH, AS LONG AS WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION SO WE CAN PASS THE ORDINANCE. [1:09:55] **Jason Chavez:** AND THEN INTRODUCE A NEW NOTICE OF INTENT? [1:09:55] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK TO, LIKE, CLOSE AND CODIFY AN ORDINANCE TO REOPEN IT AND DO ANOTHER NOTICE. I MEAN, FROM THE CLERK'S PERSPECTIVE. RATHER THAN JUST WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS FOR TWO WEEKS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WORKS. SO, NO. [1:10:20] **Elliot Payne:** AH, I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE. JUST TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND... LAST TERM, I BELIEVED I CO-SIGNED WITH A -- WITH COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO ON A SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE THAT WAS A CARRYOVER FROM THE TERM BEFORE THAT. SO THIS BODY OF WORK -- WE'RE ON THE THIRD TERM OF TRYING TO DO SURVEILLANCE WORK. AND MY RECOLLECTION FROM THE LAST TERM BODY OF WORK WAS THAT WE HAVE A MUCH MORE EXPANSIVE SCOPE WE WERE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND THE DECISION-MAKING AROUND SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE MUCH MORE COMMUNITY CONTROL OVER SOME OF... [1:11:07] **Elliot Payne:** THOSE DECISIONS. AND, FRANKLY, THAT BODY OF WORK RAN INTO NOT A GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE WALL, BUT A DATA PRACTICES WALL. AND I ACTUALLY AM APPRECIATIVE OF COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY TAKING WHAT ENDED UP BEING A FRUSTRATING DEAD END THAT WE ARRIVED AT, AND CARVING OUT A REAL CLEAR PATH FORWARD WITH THIS MORE NARROW SCOPE OF SURVEILLANCE. I'M COMMITTED TO THAT BROADER SCOPE. AND I THINK IT'S SMART TO DO IT IN THIS WAY. THE TECHNOLOGIES WERE EVOLVING. WE WERE A NATIONAL LEADER IN PASSING THE FACIAL RECOGNITION BAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO. BUT THE TECHNOLOGY HAS MOVED BEYOND THAT. ESPECIALLY WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF AI AND THE WAY THAT SOME OF THOSE... [1:11:53] **Elliot Payne:** COMPUTER VISION SYSTEMS CAN MAKE UNIQUE IDENTIFYING OBSERVATIONS OF PEOPLE. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE AS INNOVATIVE AS THESE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES ARE. [1:12:09] **Elliot Payne:** SO I WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND WE PASS THIS TODAY AND GIVE NOTICE TO CONTINUE THAT STRENGTH AND REFINEMENT. BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE OVER ANY TIME SOON. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. BUT COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [1:12:09] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY FOR HER WORK ON THIS ORDINANCE. THROUGH THE DURATION OF THIS TERM. IT FEELS LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT WORK. [1:12:34] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOVING FORWARD TODAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES INTO THE FUTURE. I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD WORK. IF THERE WASN'T DUE DILIGENCE DONE AHEAD OF THE MEETING IT'S UNFORTUNATE. THERE'S A TIMELINE AND A MANNER THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. [1:12:56] **Aurin Chowdhury:** SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TODAY. SO GRATEFUL FOR THE ORDINANCE. WILL BE SUPPORTING IT MOVING FORWARD TODAY. AND HOPE THAT WHATEVER NOI AND OTHER PROCESS STEPS ARE NECESSARY FOR THE OTHER PIECE OF WORK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING CAN BE TAKEN. SO THAT CAN GET DONE, AS WELL. [1:13:18] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE CASHMAN MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM A CYCLE. [1:13:34] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [1:13:34] **Jason Chavez:** NO. [1:13:34] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:13:34] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** NO. [1:13:34] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:13:34] **Jeremiah Ellison:** I'M NOT SURE OF THE MOTION. [1:13:34] **Casey Carl:** THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THE ENTIRE REPORT. KOSKI. [1:13:50] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:13:50] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:13:50] **Robin Wonsley:** NO. [1:13:50] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:13:50] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:13:50] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:13:50] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:13:50] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:13:50] **Aurin Chowdhury:** NO. [1:13:50] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:14:06] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:14:06] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:14:06] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:14:06] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:14:06] **Michael Rainville:** NO. [1:14:06] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:14:06] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:14:06] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:14:06] **Elliot Payne:** NO. [1:14:06] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE SIX AYES AND SEVEN NAYS. [1:14:25] **Elliot Payne:** THAT MOTION FAILS. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP CASHMAN'S AMENDMENT. [1:14:25] **Katie Cashman:** I'LL WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT. [1:14:25] **Elliot Payne:** OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS WITHDRAWN HER AMENDMENT. THEREFORE, WE'LL TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE AS AMENDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [1:14:40] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:14:40] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:14:40] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:14:40] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:14:40] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:14:40] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:14:40] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:14:40] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:14:40] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:14:56] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:14:56] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:14:56] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:14:56] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:14:56] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:14:56] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:14:56] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:14:56] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:14:56] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:14:56] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:15:12] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS ADOPTED. COMPLETING THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE REPORT. NEXT WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, GIVEN BY THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIR. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:15:12] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM FOR APPROVAL TODAY. WHICH IS ADOPTING FINDINGS APPROVING THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF AND APPROVING THE SALARY SCHEDULE FOR AN APPOINTED POSITION IN THE 3-1-1 SERVICE CENTER DEPARTMENT OF DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF 3-1-1 SERVICE CENTER. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. [1:15:36] **Elliot Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:15:36] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [1:15:36] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:15:36] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:15:36] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:15:36] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:15:36] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:15:36] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:15:36] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:15:52] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:15:52] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:15:52] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:15:52] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:15:52] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:15:52] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:15:52] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:15:52] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:15:52] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:15:52] **Casey Carl:** 13 AYES. [1:16:15] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE REPORT FROM OUR BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. [1:16:15] **Jamal Osman:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING 19 ITEMS FORWARD. ONE THROUGH THREE ARE LIQUOR LICENSE APPROVALS FOR BRODERS ITALIAN NORTH STAR DELI AND MINNEAPOLIS MOTORMART. FOUR IS APPROVING 2026 LICENSE FEE SCHEDULE. [1:16:41] **Jamal Osman:** FIVE IS ONE LIQUOR LICENSE. SIX IS APPROVING ONE LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWAL. SEVEN IS APPROVING THREE GAMBLING LICENSE. EIGHT IS APPROVING NINE GAMBLING LICENSE RENEWALS. NINE IS APPROVING A STREET NAME CHANGE SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY FOR EDMUND BOULEVARD TO BECOME LENA SMITH BOULEVARD. [1:17:03] **Jamal Osman:** 10 IS ACCEPTING GRANT FROM MINNESOTA ASSOCIATION FOR WORK FORCE SERVICES. 11 IS CONFIRMING THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF DIRECTOR ELFRIC PORTE TO THE FAMILY HOUSING FUND BOARD OF DIRECTORS. [1:17:19] **Jamal Osman:** 12 IS APPROVING A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK TO THE NELSON HOUSE AT 2620 EIGHTH AVENUE NORTH. 13 IS ADOPTING AN UPDATE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE FINE SCHEDULE INCREASE PENALTY FOR TITLE 3 VIOLATIONS. 14 IS ACCEPTING A GRANT FOR STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND PRESERVE MINNESOTA CONFERENCE. 15 IS APPROVING UNAUTHORIZING 2025 TRANSIT ORIENTED COMMUNITIES AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. [1:18:00] **Jamal Osman:** 16 IS ADOPTION WAIVERS FOR MINNEAPOLIS ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL. 17 IS ZONING MAP CORRECTING ERRORS. 18 IS RETURNING TO AN AUTHOR TO THE RELATED TO THE ZONING MAPS OF THE SHORELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT. [1:18:18] **Jamal Osman:** AND LASTLY, ITEM 19 IS APPROVING AMENDMENT TO THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE MINIMUM HEIGHT FLEXIBILITY. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. [1:18:18] **Elliot Payne:** MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:18:39] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU. I WANT TO MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO BE TAKEN UP SEPARATELY. [1:18:39] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS REMOVED ITEM FOUR FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONVERSATION. [1:18:56] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I AM SPEAKING TO MY APPLICATION FOR THE STREET RENAMING OF EDMUND BOULEVARD TO LENA SMITH BOULEVARD TODAY. I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING HOW EXCITED I AM TO HAVE THIS COME BEFORE YOU TODAY. I AM RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE, AS I AM THE APPLICANT. SO IT'S REALLY ON THE 12 OF YOU TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. UMM, I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS, UMM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS APPLICATION. [1:19:32] **Aurin Chowdhury:** TWO YEARS AGO, NEIGHBORS APPROACHED ME WITH A DEEP CONCERN THAT EDMUND BOULEVARD HONORED THE NAME OF EDMUND WALTON, A MAN WHO PLAYED AN ACTIVE ROLE IN UPHOLDING RACIAL SEGREGATION IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY. AND WAS A HARMFUL ACTOR IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY. HE ACTIVELY UPHELD RACIAL SEGREGATION THROUGH RACIAL COVENANTS AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE GENERATIONAL DISENFRANCHISEMENT AND TRAUMA OF BLACK, BROWN, ASIAN JEWISH ARAB AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND THESE COVENANTS WEREN'T JUST WORDS, INDEED, THEY WERE PART OF A BROADER SYSTEM OF REDLINING AND EXCLUSION THAT LEGITIMIZED RACIAL TERROR AND LAID THE GROUND WORK FOR DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES THAT WE STILL SEE THE IMPACT OF TODAY. AND HOUSING... [1:20:18] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND EDUCATION AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC RESOURCES, DISINVESTMENT FROM COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WORK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS ACTIVELY UMM, TAKING UP IN OUR COMMITTEES. UMM, TO CREATE EQUITY WITHIN OUR CITY. AND THIS EFFORT TO RECLAIM AND RENAME THE STREET REALLY DIDN'T START WITH ME. [1:20:39] **Aurin Chowdhury:** BUT I WAS PROUD TO CARRY THIS FORWARD, UMM, AFTER I WAS ELECTED. AND WHAT FOLLOWED WAS A BEAUTIFUL AND DEEPLY ENGAGED COMMUNITY PROCESS OF DOOR KNOCKING, OPEN CONVERSATIONS, BEING AT COMMUNITY EVENTS. LIKE SOUL OF THE SOUTH SIDE, GENERATING NAMES FROM OUR COMMUNITY. HAVING OUR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATE IN A VOTE TO DECIDE THAT WE WANTED TO NAME THIS STREET LENA SMITH. AND TOGETHER WE DISCUSSED WHAT WE IMAGINED THIS NAME TO BE. WE IMAGINED IT TO REPRESENT A FUTURE ROOTED IN JUSTICE AND HEALING. AND I WANT... [1:21:24] **Aurin Chowdhury:** TO BE CLEAR. WE SHOULD NOT HONOR SOMEONE WHO USED THEIR POWER TO HARM AND EXCLUDE AND DISENFRANCHISE SO MANY NEIGHBORS WHO SAID MANY OF US COULD NOT HAVE HOMES IN OUR CURRENT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IN THE STREET RENAMING, WE NOT ONLY REJECT THE ACTIONS OF A PAINFUL PAST, BUT WE UPLIFT THE STORIES THAT HAVE OFTEN BEEN ERASED AND DISMISSED. I REALLY WANT TO GIVE FLOWERS TO THE PERSON THAT WE ARE HONORING TODAY. THAT'S LENA SMITH. LENA SMITH WAS MINNESOTA'S FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN LAWYER. A CIVIL RIGHTS PIONEER WHOSE WORK CHANGED THIS CITY. SHE BROKE BARRIERS IN 1921, BECOMING THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN LICENSED TO -- [1:22:12] **Aurin Chowdhury:** LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN OUR STATE. SHE COFOUNDED THE MINNEAPOLIS URBAN LEAGUE, LEAD THE NAACP AS THE FIRST FEMALE., AND USED HER LEGAL SKILLS TO FIGHT DISCRIMINATION HEAD ON. SHE DEFENDED THE LEE FAMILY WHEN A WHITE MOB TRIED TO DRIVE THEM OUT FROM THEIR HOME. SHE SUED THE NICOLLET HOTEL FOR REFUSING SERVICE TO BLACK GUESTS. SHE STOOD UP TO INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, FOR PROMOTING RACIST PROPAGANDA. SHE WAS A BAD ASS! AND HER COURAGE STILL ECHOES IN THE STREETS OF OUR CITY TODAY. AND HER HOME IS ON A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORICAL PLACES. I WANT TO... [1:22:57] **Aurin Chowdhury:** JUST THANK A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS WORK. THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE ACROSS OUR CITY THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO NAME A FEW. THE LONGFELLOW COMMUNITY COUNCIL, MAPPING PREJUDICE, JUST DEEDS, MANY RESIDENTS OF EDMUND BOULEVARD, SAINT JAMES AME CHURCH, SISTER JOY, JUDGE LANG, SENATOR MOHAMED, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE FRED D FROM SUN BEAM COFFEE, THE GRASSROOTS TEAM THAT REALLY HELD THIS EFFORT TOGETHER TO RECLAIM EDMUND. THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THIS ORGANIZATION NOW. [1:23:41] **Aurin Chowdhury:** MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. JOE LARSON, MARK, JESSE, KRISTIN LAURA MARIN ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL, AND OUR DEDICATED CITY STAFF. AND DUOPOLICY AIDS WHO SPENT TWO YEARS WORKING ON THIS FROM MY OFFICE. I WANT TO CLOSE BY SHARING THE WORDS OF A 14-YEAR-OLD WHO SPOKE DURING OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. IF YOU NEED TO FILL YOUR CUP UP AND SEE SOMETHING HOPEFUL. I WOULD WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING. AND SHE IS A 14-YEAR-OLD... [1:24:28] **Aurin Chowdhury:** WHO LIVES ON EDMUND BOULEVARD. SHE SHARED "THIS IS WHERE I LIVE. WHERE I WALK HOME FROM SCHOOL. WHERE I RIDE MY BIKE." SHE'S RIGHT THERE. "THIS STREET IS A PART OF MY LIFE AND I WANT TO BE PROUD OF IT. CHANGING THE NAME IS NOT ABOUT ERASING HISTORY. ABOUT CHOOSING TO TELL A BETTER STORY. A STORY THAT INCLUDES ALL OF US." I'M ASKING YOU, LET'S PICK A NAME THAT IS FORWARD LOOKING AND INSPIRES THE NEXT GENERATION. AND THAT NAME IS LENA SMITH. ONCE WE ARE AT THE UNVEILING PROCESS, YOU'LL ALL BE GETTING AN INVITE! AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE WHEN WE OFFICIALLY PHYSICALLY CHANGE EDMUND BOULEVARD TO LENA SMITH BOULEVARD. THANK YOU. [1:25:12] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 19, JUST FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [1:25:28] **Andrea Jenkins:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO JUST OFFER MY GRATITUDE TO COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY FOR CONTINUING THIS WORK. AND GETTING THIS DONE. A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS FROM EDMUND BOULEVARD REACHED OUT TO ME OVER THE YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS PROCESS STARTED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, AND FOR SHARING THE CONTEXT OF HOW YOU CAME TO THE NAME LENA SMITH. I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW YOU GOT THERE, BUT YOU PROVIDED THAT. [1:26:06] **Andrea Jenkins:** SO THANK YOU! AND HER HISTORIC HOME IS LOCATED IN WARD 8. AND SO JUST REALLY THRILLED THAT SHE'S BEEN OFFERED THIS RECOGNITION. THANK YOU. [1:26:06] **Elliot Payne:** THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ALL ITEMS, EXCEPT ITEMS NUMBER 4 AND 19. [1:26:30] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:26:30] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:26:30] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:26:30] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:26:30] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:26:30] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:26:30] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:26:30] **Emily Koski:** AYE. ON ALL EXCEPT FOR 8. I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM 8.2, 3, 4, AND 5. [1:26:47] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:26:47] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:26:47] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:26:47] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:26:47] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:26:47] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:26:47] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:26:47] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:26:47] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:27:03] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:27:03] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:27:03] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:27:03] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:27:03] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:27:03] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:27:03] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:27:03] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:27:03] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:27:03] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THE REPORT EXCEPT FOR ITEMS 8.2, 3, 4, AND 5. WHICH HAVE 12 AYES AND ONE NAY -- I'M SORRY. NOT A NAY. [1:27:28] **Elliot Payne:** THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT ITEM NUMBER 4, AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:27:28] **Robin Wonsley:** AWESOME. AH, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, MY OFFICE HAS WORKED WITH CITY STAFF ON HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT A FEE FOR THE CITY TO RECOUP COSTS RELATED TO POLICE OFFICERS OFFDUTY WORK. AND THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY REFLECTS THAT. WELL, THREE YEARS OF EFFORTS ON THAT. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH OFF DUTY WORK, IT'S WHEN POLICE OFFICERS WORK PRIVATE SECURITY JOBS WHILE USING CITY-OWNED EQUIPMENT AND ARE PAID DIRECTLY BY THE CONTRACTOR OR BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THEIR... [1:28:14] **Robin Wonsley:** SHIFT WITH THE CITY. THE CONVERSATION AROUND OUR PROBLEMATIC OFF-DUTY SYSTEM HAS BEEN NOTED FOR YEARS. DESPITE BEING A KNOWN PROBLEM, THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE POLITICAL WILL, I BELIEVE, FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS IT MEANINGFULLY. AND IN A WAY THAT GET AT THE CORE OF HOW WE CAN REGULATE THE PROGRAM. MANY CONSTITUENTS DO NOT WANT TO BE SEEING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS GO FORWARD SUBSIDIZING OFFICER SIDE GIGS. [1:28:44] **Robin Wonsley:** ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE REGULARLY HEARING IN THE MEDIA THAT MPD IS UNDERSTAFFED AND THAT WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS IN OVERTIME. AND ALSO WHILE WE'RE HEARING THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN A FINANCIALLY STRESSED POSITION. AND LIKELY WILL BE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF WHO HELPED TO CALCULATE THE FEE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. I WANT TO NOTE MY DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE FREY ADMINISTRATION FAILED TO TAKE INITIATIVE TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE 2026 FEE SCHEDULE. [1:29:16] **Robin Wonsley:** SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DOING THIS SEPARATELY. BUT I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF STAFF WHO WORKED WITH BOTH COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE AND I TO BRING THIS FEE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU. WHICH WOULD HELP THE CITY RECOUP UP TO $1.4 MILLION NEXT YEAR WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE, WITH THIS FEE, IT MAKES SURE THAT BUSINESSES WHO WANT TO CONTRACT WITH MPD OFFICERS WILL COVER THE FULL COST THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY PAYS. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT POINT. [1:29:46] **Robin Wonsley:** BECAUSE I KNOW IN COMMITTEE THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION HOW THIS HAS A PUBLIC BENEFIT. PARTICULARLY WHEN MPD OFFICERS HAVE EXTENDED OFF-DUTY WORK TO UTILITY COMPANIES. AND I WILL NOTE, AS SOMEONE WHO GOT LOTS OF FEEDBACK FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, WHEN THEY SAW OFF-DUTY OFFICERS SITTING OUT OF CONSTRUCTION SITES. THEY WERE CONCERNED AND DIDN'T HAVE QUESTIONS OF HOW THIS IMPROVED THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY WERE VERY CONFUSED AND FRUSTRATED REGARDS TO WHY WOULD WE EXPEND CITY RESOURCES IN THE FORM OF OFFICERS AT THESE SITES, AS OPPOSED TO RELEGATING THOSE RESOURCES TO HIGHER PRIORITIES. AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES WERE SAFE DURING THAT TIME. THAT... [1:30:33] **Robin Wonsley:** SAID, THIS IS A UNIVERSAL POLICY THAT SHOULD SUPPORT MANY OF OUR GOALS. ESPECIALLY FINANCIAL GOALS OF SAVING TAXPAYERS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY. UMM, ALSO WILL HELP US MAKE OFF-DUTY SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LEGALLY MANDATED TO HAVE MORE EQUITABLE. WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING SUBSIDIZED BY TAXPAYERS, WHICH IS NOT AN EQUITABLE MATTER. THE ACTION BEFORE YOU TODAY JUST BRINGS ONE OF MANY IDEAL SOLUTIONS TO THIS PROBLEM. SO THAT WE CAN, AGAIN, PREVENT THE LOSS OF FURTHER CIVILIAN LIFE, AS WE DID WITH JUSTINE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. WITH MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE OVERWORKED OFFICERS WHO ARE HAVING TO JUGGLE FULL-TIME WORK... [1:31:20] **Robin Wonsley:** ALONG WITH OVERTIME HOURS AND THEN THEIR SIDE OR PRIVATE SECURITY GIGS. AND HELPS US SAVE TAXPAYERS LOTS OF RESOURCES THEY'RE CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZING THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT THEY DON'T RECEIVE PUBLIC BENEFITS FROM. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK FOR A SECOND. AND MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. [1:31:46] **Council Members:** SECOND. [1:31:46] **Elliot Payne:** ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:31:46] **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL SAY A FEW WORDS. UMM, ... I'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS. I DID IN COMMITTEE. I'VE SAID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF ADDING THESE FEES. UMM ... BUT WE WERE WARNED DURING A PRESENTATION EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT MPD DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTED EVEN NEXT YEAR. DUE TO OTHER LARGE-SCALE PRODUCTS -- PROJECTS BEING IMPLEMENTED. I.T. [1:32:26] **Linea Palmisano:** PROJECTS. RIGHT NOW THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MECHANISM TO COLLECT THE FEE FROM EITHER BUSINESSES USING OFF-DUTY OR OFFICERS GETTING PAID FOR IT. IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL ACTUALLY BE COLLECTING ANY FEES. BUT IT IS GREAT TO GET THIS ON THE FEE SCHEDULE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING FOR THE PUBLIC THAT IT WILL BE PROBABLY A YEAR BEFORE IT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, FOR THIS EFFORT. IT WILL ALSO APPLY TO WAYS THAT WE, THE CITY, SUBSIDIZE SOME KINDS OF EVENTS IN OUR CITY. SUCH AS P.R.I.D.E. [1:33:06] **Linea Palmisano:** FESTIVAL AND P.R.I.D.E. MARCH STUFF THAT HAS OFF-DUTY WORK IN IT. AS WELL AS PLACES WITH BIDS, LIKE MICHAELS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN THE UNION CONTRACT THEY REQUIRE OFF-DUTY WORK. SO WE, AS TAXPAYERS, WILL BE, TO SOME EXTENT, SUPPLEMENTING THIS FEE. IT WILL COME BACK IN THIS WAY. . [1:33:31] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. YEAH. I WANT TO OFFER FOLLOW UP COMMENTS TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO JUST SHARED. AS I HIGHLIGHTED. MPD GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IN MAY. THEY OUTLINED A CLEAR PROGRAM AROUND HOW THEY COULD IMPLEMENT OFF-DUTY PROGRAM STARTING WITH A FEE COLLECTION. [1:33:54] **Robin Wonsley:** AND WHILE THEY NOTED THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T IN PLACE, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY CONTRADICTORY TO STATEMENTS THAT MPD LEADERSHIP WHERE THEY'VE SAID THEY ARE TRACKING, AND HAVE PUT MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO START HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW OFF-DUTY IS BEING USED. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. YOU CAN'T SAY "WE'RE DOING WORK" AND THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE. [1:34:19] **Robin Wonsley:** NEVERTHELESS, WHAT THIS DOES DO, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FEE, LIKE PCAR, LIKE WE'RE CONSIDERING AND THE BODY PASSED, BY MAKING SURE THAT THIS FEE IS REFLECTED IN THE SCHEDULE. WE ARE ACTUALLY MANDATING, NOW THROUGH LAW, THAT MPD WILL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IT. [1:34:36] **Robin Wonsley:** SIMPLY IT'S BEEN A DECISION TO NOT PRIORITIZE THE WORK BY THE ADMINISTRATION. IT WILL GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES AND, IDEALLY, THE POLITICAL MOTIVATION TO GO AND TAKE THIS WORK SERIOUS AND START BUILDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY SAYING TO THE PUBLIC EXISTS. BUT DOES NOT. THE FEE ITSELF BASED OFF MPD'S OWN RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD MANDATE THAT AN OFF-DUTY OFFICER THAT IS USING CITY-OWNED RESOURCES WITHOUT A VEHICLE, A VENDOR WILL HAVE TO PAY $6.99 PER HOUR. FOR AN OFF-DUTY OFFICER OFFERING THIS SERVICE A CITY-OWNED VEHICLE, A VENDOR WILL HAVE TO PAY $27.58 PER HOUR. THE RESOURCES... [1:35:22] **Robin Wonsley:** COLLECTIVELY, BASED OFF MPD'S RECOMMENDATIONS WILL ALLOW THEM TO HIRE PERSONNEL TO ACTUALLY START TRACKING, UMM, AND HAVING STRINGENT OVERSIGHT OF HOW OFF-DUTY IS BEING USED. I THINK THAT IS WELL WORTH. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PRIORITIZE THAT IN THEIR CURRENT BUDGET FOR 2026, COUNCIL CAN DO SO, AS WE DID WITH PCARD LAST YEAR. AND I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO DO SO. [1:35:50] **Robin Wonsley:** IMPLEMENTATION IS POSSIBLE NEXT YEAR. WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE IN DECEMBER TO MAKE SURE THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. BUT THIS ORDINANCE ITSELF ALLOWS THE POLITICAL WILL TO BE AVAILABLE IN ABSENCE OF LEADERSHIP TO PRIORITIZE THIS WORK THAT HAS RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF CIVILIAN LIFE. THAT HAS RESULTED IN OFFICERS BEING OVERWORKED, TO A PLACE WHERE THEY PUT THEMSELVES AND THE PUBLIC IN SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS POSITIONS. AND HAVE MORE IMPORTANTLY WILL MAKE SURE THAT TAXPAYERS WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE PRIVATE SIDE GIGS FOR ONLY ONE CITY WORK FORCE, AH, AT THE RATE OF A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY. WE CAN TAKE THAT WEIGHT OFF THEIR SHOULDERS THROUGH THIS ACTION. SO, AGAIN, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT. [1:36:36] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM FOUR. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [1:36:36] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:36:36] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:36:36] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:36:36] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:36:36] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:36:36] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:36:36] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:36:52] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:36:52] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:36:52] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:36:52] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:36:52] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:36:52] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:36:52] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:36:52] **Casey Carl:** 13 AYES. [1:37:10] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 19, AND I'LL RECOGNIZE VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:37:10] **Aisha Chughtai:** YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, I JUST WANT TO -- I PULLED THE ITEM. I GOT BRIEFED BY PLANNING STAFF SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. UMM, AND I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT. I -- I -- UMM, I DON'T SUPPORT REDUCING MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. [1:37:28] **Aisha Chughtai:** UMM, IN OUR TRANSIT CORRIDORS. UMM, AND -- AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, I REALLY UNDERSTAND, UMM, WHY STAFF GOT TO THE CONCLUSIONS THEY DID. AND REALLY RESPECT THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO BRINGING THIS RECOMMENDATION FORWARD. IT'S, UNFORTUNATELY, NOT ONE I CAN SUPPORT AS SOMEONE WHO, UMM YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS A COMMUNITY THAT IS INCREDIBLY ENGAGED IN THE ISSUE OF, UMM YOU KNOW, PROGRESSIVE LAND USE POLICY. [1:37:57] **Aisha Chughtai:** AND, YOU KNOW, MY PREDECESSOR WAS ONE WHO WAS REALLY A LEADER ON THIS ISSUE ON THIS COUNCIL. AH, SO, UMM, JUST WANTED TO INDICATE I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. AND, UMM, THANK YOU. [1:38:12] **Jason Chavez:** CAN THE FOLKS FROM THE COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE? [1:38:29] **Jamal Osman:** YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, AS YOU KNOW 2040 REQUIRES A LOT OF DENSE CONSTRUCTION AND ANY DEVELOP PLAN. WITH THE STAFF, THIS IS COMING FROM THE STAFF. I'M CARRYING THE STAFF HAVE CONTACTED ME AND TALKED TO ME AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE ON HOLD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BUILD BECAUSE 10 STORIES. THIS IS CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. IT'S MAINLY IN WARD 6 AREA. THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT, BECAUSE OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE OF THE, [1:39:17] **Jamal Osman:** DIFFICULTIES OF BUILDING 10 STORIES. THE STAFF WANT TO SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND THAT WE GIVE EXCEPTION TO SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE. INSTEAD OF 10 STORIES. MAKE IT SIX. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY WAS IN THE PLANNINGS COMMISSION, IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MORE. [1:39:34] **Aurin Chowdhury:** YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRESIDENT PAYNE. AND COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ FOR THE QUESTION. I'LL DO MY LEVEL BEST TO TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT OCCURRED IN PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN, ALSO, IN OUR COMMITTEE. [1:39:59] **Aurin Chowdhury:** ESSENTIALLY THIS IS LOOKING AT A FEW DIFFERENT ZONING AREAS. SO IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WE HAVE TRANSIT 15, TRANSIT 20, TRANSIT 30A, TRANSIT 30B. IT'S PARTICULARLY FOR TRANSIT 30A AND TRANSIT 30B. THE MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS 10 STORIES. AND STAFF HAD INDICATED TO US IN OUR COMMITTEE AND IN PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THESE MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND FAR MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE HAVE NOT GARNERED DEVELOPMENT THESE... [1:40:45] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AREAS. PARTICULARLY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING AND OTHER USES. JUST TO REALLY PUT IT IN LAY TERMS. LIKE, THE STORIES ARE SO HIGH. IT BECOMES LESS FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPERS TO TAKE ACTION AND CREATING PROJECTS THAT MEET THE 10-STORY REQUIREMENT. AND SO TRANSIT 30A WAS BROUGHT DOWN TO FIVE STORIES. IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE STANDARD OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT STILL IS ALIGNED AND BROUGHT IT UP TO SIX STORIES. IN TRANSIT 15 AND IN TRANSIT 20 AT FOUR STORIES WITHIN AND SIX STORIES, [1:41:32] **Aurin Chowdhury:** RESPECTIVELY, IT WAS LOWERED TO THREE AND FOUR STORIES. AND SO THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE CHANGES BETWEEN PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN THE BIZ COMMITTEE UPHELD THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. IF THERE IS STAFF THAT IS AVAILABLE, TOO, TO FURTHER ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT, UMM, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. [1:42:06] **Elliot Payne:** I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:42:06] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:42:06] **Jason Chavez:** NO. [1:42:06] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:42:06] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:42:06] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:42:06] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:42:06] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:42:06] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:42:21] **Robin Wonsley:** NO. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:42:21] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:42:21] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:42:21] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:42:21] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:42:21] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:42:21] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:42:21] **Aisha Chughtai:** NO. [1:42:21] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:42:21] **Elliot Payne:** NO. [1:42:36] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE NINE AYES AND FIVE NAYS. [1:42:36] **Elliot Payne:** THAT ITEM CARRIES. AND THAT COMPLETES THE BIZ REPORT. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [1:42:57] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE IS APPROVING SHINGLE CREEK WATER SHED MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. TWO IS APPROVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE BASSETT CREEK WATER SHED MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. THREE IS ADOPTING A RESOLUTION -- REVISIONS TO THE SNOWBOUND CART POLICY. FOUR IS APPROVING RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE LOWRY AVENUE SOUTHEAST STREET PROJECT. FIVE IS APPROVING THE CONCEPT LAYOUT FOR THE 18th AVENUE SOUTH BRIDGE PROJECT. SIX IS APPROVING THE CONCEPT LAYOUT FOR 10 AND 9TH STREET CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS. [1:43:25] **Katie Cashman:** AND SEVEN IS APPROVING THE CONCEPT AVENUE FOR PARK AVENUE AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. AND I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS. [1:43:25] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [1:43:43] **Michael Rainville:** THANK YOU. I LIKE TO MOVE ITEM SIX FOR A SEPARATE VOTE, PLEASE. [1:43:43] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE HAS MOVED ITEM SIX FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE REPORT? SEEING NONE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:43:59] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:43:59] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:43:59] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:43:59] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:43:59] **Robin Wonsley:** IS ABSENT. [1:43:59] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:44:15] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:44:15] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:44:15] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:44:15] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:44:15] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:44:15] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:44:15] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:44:15] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:44:15] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 12 AYES. [1:44:39] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 6. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [1:44:39] **Michael Rainville:** I'LL BE VOTING NO ON ITEM SIX. I DO THAT BECAUSE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, AND WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNRESOLVED ISSUES COMING FROM TARGET AND OTHER EMPLOYEES COME AND GO OUT OF THE PARKING RAMPS. THE BUILDING MANAGERS ASSOCIATION AND THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PUT A LARGE BUILDING BETWEEN NINTH AND 10th. AND I THINK THAT TIME STILL NEEDS TO BE HAD. I THINK THE ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED. BUT TO MOVE FORWARD, AT THIS TIME, THEY DO NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE. [1:45:15] **Michael Rainville:** I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS. THANK YOU. [1:45:15] **Jamal Osman:** YEAH. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MOVE THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL. [1:45:15] **Council Member:** SECOND. [1:46:01] **Jamal Osman:** BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THIS IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE STAFF WANTS THIS PROJECT DONE. WE'RE GETTING A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'M NOT SURE OF THE AMOUNTS. BUT WE'RE GETTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF IT. AND THE PLAN IS TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY AND THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FOR THIS PROJECT. WE HAD A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION DURING THE COMMITTEE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND THIS IS LOCATED IN WARD 6 AND WARD 7. SO, UMM, YES. SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. [1:46:01] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. THERE HAS BEEN YEARS AND YEARS OF STAFF WORK PUT INTO THIS. IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN WORKED ON FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS! AND WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE HAVE $4.5 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING ON THE LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. [1:46:25] **Katie Cashman:** THAT MONEY IS NOT COMING BACK. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE STREET PROJECTS THAT DON'T COST ANY MONEY TO OUR LOCAL TAX BASE. OR INVOLVE AN ASSESSMENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND I DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE FEDERAL MONEY ON THE TABLE FOR A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SO LONG. AND TO ADDRESS COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE'S CONCERNS, I KNOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS OMITTED THE STRETCH OF THE DESIGN THAT IS IN FRONT OF 900 MARQUETTE. [1:46:53] **Katie Cashman:** THEY KNOW THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. THAT PART -- AND I HOPE THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN I KNOW THAT PARKING LOT HAS BEEN A SURFACE LOT FOR A LONG TIME. WOULD BE AMAZING TO HAVE HINES BUILD SOMETHING THERE. SO, UMM, WITH THAT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS ON THIS FINAL PROJECT. IT DOES TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THESE PROJECTS TO HAPPEN. SO THERE IS TIME YET TO FIGURE OUT THE STRIPING AND OTHER DETAILS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN HOW TARGET EMPLOYEES WILL BE LEAVING THEIR RAMP. AND I KNOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS WILL STAY AT THE TABLE. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION. THIS IS APPROVING THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONCEPT LAYOUT, SO WE CAN USE THIS FUNDING AND, ULTIMATELY, GET PROTECTED BIKEWAYS IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [1:47:40] **Aisha Chughtai:** YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, BOTH -- I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TODAY. UMM, AND JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT, UMM YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN WAS ABLE TO HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE REPORT TODAY IS BETWEEN ITEM NUMBER 6 AND ITEM NUMBER 7. SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING ON NINTH STREET SOUTH, 10th STREET SOUTH, PARK AVENUE, AND PORTLAND AVENUE COMBINED ADD SOMETHING LIKE 10 MILES OF NEW BIKEWAYS INTO OUR CITY. BIKE LANES ARE, IN FACT, GOOD. THEY SAVE LIVES. THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED FOR US TO MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS. [1:48:22] **Aisha Chughtai:** IMPROVING SAFETY THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY HARMS, UMM, YOU KNOW, WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE WHO, UMM, ARE MARGINALIZED OR SYSTEMICALLY DISENFRANCHISED IN OUR COMMUNITY IS A GOOD THING. AND BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD TOGETHER, UMM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO, BIKE LANES ARE GOOD. SO EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS. 10 MILES OF NEW BIKEWAYS IN OUR CITY IS A BIG DEAL! [1:48:50] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU. [1:48:50] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. [1:48:50] **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. [1:48:50] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:48:50] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:48:50] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** NO. [1:48:50] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:48:50] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:48:50] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:48:50] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:49:05] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:49:05] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:49:05] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:49:05] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:49:05] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:49:05] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:49:05] **Michael Rainville:** NO. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:49:05] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:49:05] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:49:05] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:49:21] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 11 AYES AND TWO NAYS. [1:49:21] **Elliot Payne:** THAT ITEM CARRIES. AND THAT COMPLETES THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:49:21] **Jason Chavez:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS BRINGING SEVEN ITEMS FORWARD. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ACCEPTING A GRANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE CLIP-ON GAS MONITORS. [1:49:40] **Jason Chavez:** TWO IS APPROVING A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO CASE CLEARANCE RATES WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THREE IS APPROVING THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. FOUR IS AUTHORIZING NUMEROUS CONTRACTS FOR VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES. FIVE IS AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION OF PUBLIC WORKS WATER DISTRIBUTION MAINTENANCE FACILITY. SIX IS CONSIDERING A REVISION TO MEMBERSHIP AND QUORUMS OF VARIOUS COUNCIL COMMITTEES. [1:50:13] **Jason Chavez:** THIS ITEM IS FORWARDED WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AT OUR MEETING. AND LASTLY, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE MINNESOTA STATE LEGISLATURE TO BAN ASSAULT RIFLES AND HIGH-CAP MAGAZINES STATEWIDE. WITH THAT, I'L MOVE ALL ITEMS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL AND PULL ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. [1:50:35] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [1:50:35] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS AROUND ITEM NUMBER 5 WHICH IS THE ACQUISITION OF 2700, 2701, 2705 UNIVERSITY AVENUE NORTHEAST. WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON TUESDAY, OF COURSE LIKE I SHARED COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THIS ITEM HELPS THE CITY CLOSE THE CHAPTER ON THE LOCATION OF THE... [1:51:20] **Robin Wonsley:** CITY'S WATER MAINTENANCE FACILITY, AND GIVES US ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE A CHAPTER ON THE SITE WHICH HAS BEEN SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR FOR OVER 10 YEARS. THE CITY PURCHASED THIS SITE BACK IN 2016 WHILE KNOWING THAT IT DID NOT HAVE THE FULL BACKING OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT. [1:51:41] **Robin Wonsley:** AND DESPITE THAT CLEAR RESISTANCE AND DISAPPROVAL FROM COMMUNITY, THIS PARTICULAR ADMINISTRATION, CITY STAFF PUSHED FORWARD AND THAT DECISION HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE MISTAKES WE COULD HAVE MADE. NOW FOR 10 YEARS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE WORKED TO PUT FORWARD A HOPEFUL AND GENERATIVE VISION FOR THE DEPOT SITE. ASKED MAYOR FREY TO COME TO THE TABLE TO REALLY FIGURE OUT THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. IN LIGHT OF THOSE EFFORTS OR IN SPITE OF THOSE EFFORTS, WE LEARNED THIS WEEK MAYOR FREY REJECTED THE COUNTER OFFER FROM MANY OF THE EAST VILLAGE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE ORGANIZED FOR A POSITIVE VISION AND HAVE... [1:52:27] **Robin Wonsley:** GARNERED CITY-WIDE SUPPORT FOR THIS SITE. ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE POTENTIALLY PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND CONTINUE EXPERIENCING DAMAGE TO THE CITY'S REPUTATION. THINGS THAT ARE PREVENTABLE. AND WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE BOTH CHAPTERS AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH MAYOR FREY TO SHOW LEADERSHIP OF WORKING WITH COMMUNITY ON SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE AND THAT SETS A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR HOW WE DO COMMUNITY-LED DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY AROUND RENEWABLE ENERGY AND CHAMPION COMMUNITY'S BOLD AND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TOWARDS OUR REALITIES OF CLIMATE CHANGE. AND AS OPPOSED TO... [1:53:14] **Robin Wonsley:** LENDING INTO THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT WAS REJECTED. I AM OF COURSE, AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE PASSAGE OF THIS ACQUISITION OF PARCELS FOR THE NEW SITE, SIMPLY URGING MAYOR FREY TO GO BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE WITH OUR EAST PHILLIPS NEIGHBORS TO FORGE A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY'S VISION TO BE REALIZED. LET'S NOT KEEP WASTING TIME ON THIS. LET'S NOT KEEP WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THIS. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES REGARDLESS OF THE ACTIONS THAT MAYOR FREY TAKES. HOPEFULLY HE IS GOING BACK TO THE TABLE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING AS WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY-LED VISION AROUND THAT SITE BEING THE ROOF DEPOT SITE. SO COMMENTS I WANTED... [1:53:59] **Robin Wonsley:** TO SHARE AND LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT COMING WEEKS OF ACTIONS THAT WE BRING FORWARD. [1:53:59] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ALL ITEMS EXCEPT 2 AND 6. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:54:15] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:54:15] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [1:54:15] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. [1:54:15] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:54:15] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS. [1:54:15] **Andrea Jenkins:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [1:54:15] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:54:15] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:54:15] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:54:15] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:54:30] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:54:30] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:54:30] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:54:30] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:54:30] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:54:30] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:54:30] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:54:30] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:54:47] **Elliot Payne:** THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 2, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE ON POLICE DEPARTMENT CASE CLEARANCE RATES. I'L RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [1:54:47] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I AM BRINGING A SUBSTITUTE FOR THIS TODAY, WHICH I SENT TO YOU ALL AND NOTICED IN OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. THE SUBSTITUTE DOES CHANGE THE DATE FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO OCTOBER 29TH FOR THE INFORMATION TO COME BACK. [1:55:08] **Katie Cashman:** AND ALSO, IDENTIFIES THAT WHILE WE DO HAVE 2024 INVESTIGATION CLEARANCE RATES, WE DO NOT YET HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR 2025. SO I HAVE INCLUDED THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION IN 2026 WHEN THE INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. I HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY MARY MORIARTY YESTERDAY JUST TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IN ACTUALLY CREATING A CULTURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND CLOSING CASES, AROUND PROVIDING ANSWERS TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY CRIMES. AND IN PARTICULAR, LORING PARK... [1:55:56] **Katie Cashman:** REALLY HAS STRUGGLED WITH GUN VIOLENCE THIS SUMMER. MANY FATAL AND NON- FATAL SHOOTINGS HAVE GONE UNINVESTIGATED. JUSTIN JUICE MARSHALL WHO WAS SHOT AND STILL DOESN'T HAVE ANSWERS AROUND WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK FOR COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO HEAL FROM TRAUMA AND CRIMES THAT OCCUR, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEDICATE MORE RESOURCES AND PROVIDE MORE TRANSPARENCY AROUND THE INVESTIGATIONS. AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE COME INTO THE BUDGET SEASON HERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO BE UNDERSTANDING THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES BEING DEDICATED TO TRAINING, ALL THE NEW CADETS BEING HIRED INTO MPD, KIND OF WHAT THOSE PIPELINES ARE FOR... [1:56:41] **Katie Cashman:** BECOMING INVESTIGATORS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INVESTIGATORS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH IN PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 5, BUT I THINK THE CAPACITY IS NOT AS HIGH AS IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT AREA. SO THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE WILL HELP US HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE AT AND GOING FORWARD. I'L MOVE THIS SUBSTITUTE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. [1:57:06] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED THIS AS AMENDED FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? [1:57:06] **Council Member:** SECOND. [1:57:06] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ON QUEUE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:57:06] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:57:06] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [1:57:06] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [1:57:06] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [1:57:06] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [1:57:06] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [1:57:06] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [1:57:06] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [1:57:21] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [1:57:21] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [1:57:21] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [1:57:21] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [1:57:21] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. [1:57:21] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:57:21] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:57:21] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [1:57:21] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 12 AYES. [1:57:36] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 6. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [1:57:36] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO THIS WEEK WE HAD AN ITEM THAT CAME BEFORE US AND I JUST WANTED TO OFFER. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PAPER IN FRONT OF US. BUT I HAVE A COUPLE MOTIONS HERE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I OFFER A MOTION THAT YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AROUND REVISING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. I HAD ASKED. THERE WAS A MOTION THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US BY THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON FROM TWO COMMITTEES. I SIMPLY JUST ASKED TO BE ADDED TO THOSE TWO... [1:58:22] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** COMMITTEES AS A NORTHSIDER. I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT CONVERSATION WOULD SPARK INTO WHAT HAS BECOME IN THESE FEW WEEKS. YES. THANK YOU. I REALLY DID THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE A SIMPLE, HE'S OFF, I'M ON. I WAS JUST ASKING FOR REPRESENTATION FOR NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. THERE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. AND THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT BROUGHT BEFORE I HAD OFFERED A SUBSTITUTE. THAT CLEARLY WAS NOT GOING TO FIT FOR THIS BODY. SO I'VE OFFERED A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION. AND IT IS THE RESOLUTION THAT ASKED MY COLLEAGUES TO CREATE A COMMITTEE... [1:59:11] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** OF THE WHOLE SORT OF -- HOW DO I SAY THIS? IT'S REALLY ABOUT -- YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THE STRUCTURE -- IT'S THE LAST ONE I THINK IN THE PACKET. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PUT THE PACKET TOGETHER. BUT IT'S THE VETAW SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT'S DATED SEPTEMBER 11th. AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT TAKES US TO ONE DAY OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND ALL MEMBERS WILL MEET ON THIS DAY. ALL THE BUSINESS OF THIS COUNCIL WILL COME BEFORE US. WE WILL BE EQUALLY REPRESENTED IN THIS STRUCTURE. [1:59:48] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** EVERYONE GETS TO VOTE ON BEHALF OF THEIR WARDS ON ALL MATTERS THAT WILL THEN COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. SO THIS DOES TAKE AWAY THE SIX DAYS OF INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE SIX-PERSON COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP. [2:00:04] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AND AGAIN, WE WILL ALL EQUALLY HAVE REPRESENTATION. IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, YOU'RE NOT THERE. BUT IF YOU ARE THERE, YOU GET TO VOTE. AND IT MOVES ON. IT MOVES EVERYTHING TO FULL COUNCIL IF IT PASSES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING NOW BECAUSE I, AGAIN, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT NORTHSIDE HAS REPRESENTATION. [2:00:26] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING FOR THREE WEEKS AGO, AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THIS BODY FOR TODAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THESE MATTERS COME UP THAT SOMEONE IS THERE TO SPEAK TO NORTHSIDE RESIDENTS IF THEY ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND HAVE QUESTIONS, OR IF -- LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND I HAVE ALWAYS WORKED TOGETHER ON ISSUES THAT ARE ABOUT THE NORTHSIDE RATHER THAT'S BY THE PHONE, IN PERSON, IN THE ELEVATOR, IN THE STAIRWELL, WHATEVER. WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED ON MATTERS THAT COVER THE NORTHSIDE. AND THIS VERSION OF THESE COMMITTEES, IN MY OPINION, AND I HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT IT TOO, WILL COVER THAT. [2:01:13] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION DATED SEPTEMBER 11th. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? [2:01:13] **Council Member:** SECOND. [2:01:13] **Elliot Payne:** AND THAT'S BEEN SECONDED. I'L RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [2:01:13] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW IN HOW THIS WOULD WORK IN TERMS OF WHO IS CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING DURING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE C & I AGENDA ITEMS, WILL THE CHAIR BE TURNED OVER TO ME TO LEAD THAT PORTION OR WILL IT ALL FALL UNDER PRESIDENT PAYNE? SECONDLY, HOW LOGISTICALLY WITH AGENDA SETTING, HOW WILL THAT WORK? [2:01:54] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. SO THE CHAIR OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AND I'M SURE WE CAN ASK THE CLERK THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THIS. THIS MODEL HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF CLERK CARL COULD SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS ON THIS. [2:02:15] **Casey Carl:** MR. PRESIDENT, AS COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW INDICATED, WE DID USE THIS SORT OF A MODEL IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S INITIAL RESPONSE TO COVID. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS SIMPLY COLLAPSE ALL OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES INTO ONE COMMITTEE, IT WAS CALLED THE POLICY OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNANCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, POGO FOR SHORT. THE POGO COMMITTEE WAS ALL COMMITTEES WRAPPED IN ONE. [2:02:41] **Casey Carl:** IT HAD A CHAIR JUST LIKE THE STANDING COMMITTEE. THAT CHAIR RAN THE MEETING. IT WOULD NOT BE IN AS OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HAS A STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR TURNED IT OVER TO THE SUB CHAIR. [2:02:58] **Casey Carl:** IT WOULD BE THAT COMMITTEE CHAIR RUNS THAT PROCESS. [2:02:58] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU. IS IT POSSIBLE TO TURN OVER THE CHAIR TO THE EXISTING CHAIR SINCE NONE OF THE CHAIRS ARE CHANGING? [2:02:58] **Casey Carl:** MR. PRESIDENT, CERTAINLY, IF THE CHAIR WISHES TO HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HELP LEAD THE MEETING FOR CERTAIN PORTIONS, THAT'S WITHIN THE BODY'S CONTROL. THE PURPOSE OF THE CHAIR IS TO RUN THE MEETING. AND IF THE CHAIR WISHES TO DEFER TO A DIFFERENT MEMBER TO LEAD ON ONE OR MULTIPLE ITEMS, THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR SUBJECT TO THE WILL OF THE BODY. [2:03:33] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** SUB COMMITTEE STYLE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, WHEN I SERVED ON THE PARK BOARD, IT WAS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED. WE DID COMMITTEES FIRST, AND THEN THE FULL PARK BOARD BUSINESS. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. IF THE GAVEL GETS PASSED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THIS IS ONE LONG DAY THAT I'M HERE FOR. AND LIKE IF YOU WANT TO DO SUB COMMITTEE STYLE OR IF THIS BODY AGREES TO THAT, I AM COMPLETELY OPEN TO THAT. [2:03:56] **Katie Cashman:** YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE IF WE ARE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS MODEL BECAUSE I STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO LEAD THE WORK ON THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. I DON'T WANT THAT WORK TO JUST GET FOLDED IN AND GET WRAPPED UP AND KINDA GO BY THE WAYSIDE. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION HERE IS IF WE WOULD RETURN TO REGULAR COMMITTEE STRUCTURES IN OUR NEXT TERM IN 2026 SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THESE TOPICS THE ATTENTION THAT THEY DESERVE IN SUB-DIVIDING UP THE COMMITTEES BASED ON EXPERTISE. [2:04:31] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL LEADERSHIP IN THE NEXT TERM. I'M JUST HOPING THAT THIS GETS US THROUGH WHERE WE ARE NOW. [2:04:44] **Katie Cashman:** YES. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US ALL TO TALK ABOUT NOW AND KIND OF COMMIT OURSELVES TO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE COMMITTEES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS, WHICH IS SIX OR SEVEN CYCLES LEFT, AND A HUGE FOCUS ON BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON. [2:05:01] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AND BUDGET WOULD BE SEPARATE. BUDGET WOULD BE ITS OWN COMMITTEE. SO OUTSIDE OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE WILL TAKE UP BUDGET AS A SEPARATE COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO THIS. SO ALL OF THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS AND THE ITEMS RELATED TO THE MAYOR'S BUDGET AND THE CITY'S BUDGET WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. [2:05:21] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER STANDING COMMITTEES AND COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [2:05:21] **Katie Cashman:** MM-HMM. OKAY. THANKS. [2:05:21] **Michael Rainville:** THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I THINK IT'S A WISE MOVE. IT TAKES IN EFFECT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S NEW OPPORTUNITY. IT TAKES IN EFFECT THAT IF WE START TO SHUFFLE THESE COMMITTEES, THERE'S GOING TO BE WINNERS AND LOSERS AND THUS, CREATE HARD FEELINGS. THE MODEL THAT HAPPENED DURING COVID WORKS. SO I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S EFFORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. IN THE LEAST DIVISIVE WAY. [2:06:02] **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE COMMITTEES. WE CHOOSE AS A BODY TO HAVE COMMITTEES. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ MADE A GOOD POINT ON TUESDAY ABOUT EQUITY AND REPRESENTATION ON COMMITTEES. [2:06:19] **Linea Palmisano:** AND I WILL SUPPORT MOVING ALL COMMITTEE WORK TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND I'M WILLING TO LET CHAIR CHAVEZ MANAGE THE WORK FROM THERE. I'D IMAGINE HE WOULD NEED A BREAK JUST AS CHAIRS DO ALL THE TIME. DURING COVID, THOSE WERE LONG SESSIONS BUT WE WERE REMOTE, AND PEOPLE HANDED THAT CHAIR OFF TO DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS EVEN FROM TIME TO TIME. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION FOR COUNCIL COMMITTEE WORK. BUT IT DOES LET US COMPLETE THIS TERM KNOWING THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED. AND ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS MODEL IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE SAY IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW SHOWING THAT WE ARE A FULL-TIME... [2:07:04] **Linea Palmisano:** BODY. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED HERE OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS REALLY POINT OUT THAT PEOPLE ELECTED TO THIS BODY FEEL IT CAN BE A PART-TIME JOB. THAT IS NOT HOW I TREAT THIS ROLE OR HOW OTHERS ON THIS BODY DO. BUT THIS DOESN'T BODE WELL FOR THE CHARTER COMMISSION AND THEIR DELIBERATIONS WHO ARE CONSIDERING THEIR FURTHER CHANGES THAT COULD MAKE THIS A PART-TIME COUNCIL EVENTUALLY. WE ALSO HAVE TO HOLD OUR HEADS UP IN LAME DUCK SESSION THE NEXT YEAR TO SET SALARIES. HOW DOES THAT LOOK WHEN WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS THE PAST WEEKS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE A MODEL IN... [2:07:49] **Linea Palmisano:** HOW WE TREAT TAXPAYER REPRESENTATION AND DOLLARS. THIS WORK BRINGS US ALL INTO THAT CONVERSATION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM. THANK YOU. [2:07:49] **Jamal Osman:** THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA. AND I'LL CITE WHY IT'S A BAD IDEA. FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE BEEN USING A MODEL THAT WORKED FOR US. EACH CHAIR HAS AN EXPERIENCE AND KNOWS THE COMMITTEE. KNOWS THE STAFF. HE IS EXPERT IN THAT FIELD. [2:08:24] **Jamal Osman:** BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE, THAT'S MY COMMITTEE AS THE CHAIR. LET US REMIND, WE ONLY HAVE SIX WEEKS LEFT AND WE'RE TRYING TO SCRAMBLE EVERYTHING AND START OVER. THIS IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE BHZ COMMITTEE ITSELF LASTS FOUR HOURS, LASTS LONG, LONG TIME. [2:08:46] **Jamal Osman:** WHAT'S INCLUDED BHZ COMMITTEE, PUBLIC HEARING, QUASI-JUDICIAL, SOME OF US MIGHT NOT SHARE WHAT QUASI-JUDICIAL IS AND APPEALS AND THAT KIND OF PROCESS. AND I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT OUR PROFESSIONALS WILL THINK. ARE WE TRYING TO BRING ALL OF THEM HERE? BECAUSE EACH COMMITTEE HAS HUGE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT COME PREPARED. DO WHAT THEY DO BEST. [2:09:19] **Jamal Osman:** PRESENT THEIR PRESENTATIONS. HAVE SUGGESTIONS. YOU KNOW. RECOMMEND ITEMS TO APPROVE. HAVE WE CONSIDERED OUR STAFF? DID WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR STAFF? IS THE SEATS ENOUGH FOR OUR STAFF THAT WE HAVE? THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THAT I CANNOT SEE HAVING ONE DAY FOR ALL COMMITTEES. ADMINISTRATION ENTERPRISE, THE BUDGET, WHICH IS COMING UP. THE BUSINESS AND ZONING COMMITTEE, WHICH LASTS OVER FOUR HOURS. THE CLIMATE. AM I FORGETTING SOME? THERE'S PLENTY OF MEETINGS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. SO IT MIGHT SOUND... [2:10:06] **Jamal Osman:** GOOD. BUT THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA. WE ONLY HAVE SIX WEEKS LEFT. LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. ESPECIALLY OUR STAFF WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT WORK. AND I WANT TO THANK CPED STAFF AND REGULATORY SERVICES AND ALL OF THEM THAT COME AND PUT ALL THEIR WORK AND ALL THEIR ENERGY TO BHZ COMMITTEE. THINK ABOUT THIS. I KNOW BHZ COMMITTEE. I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR LAST FIVE YEARS. IT'S A HUGE COMMITTEE THAT COMES WITH ALL KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING, APPEAL PROCESS, AND EVERYTHING. AND TAKING CARE OF THAT IN ONE DAY IS NOT IDEAL. SO IT'S A BAD IDEA, AND I WILL ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. [2:10:48] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THIS IS TRULY A VERY, VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION AS WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, AND I HOPE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE BUSINESS OF THIS BODY AND THE WORK OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO. I WILL FIRST SAY, I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SOMETIMES I SHOW UP HERE AT 6 A.M. AND I'M WORKING, AND THERE'S BEEN NIGHTS WHERE I'VE HAD TO STAY HERE UNTIL 9 P.M. [2:11:22] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB. I WORK 7 DAYS A WEEK. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'L TAKE A DAY FOR HEALTH CARE APPOINTMENTS, OTHER THINGS THAT I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. AND THESE COMMITTEES ARE THE WORKHORSES OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AS COUNCIL. AND WHILE WE MIGHT JUST HAVE SIX WEEKS LEFT, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT COME BEFORE OUR COMMITTEES THAT IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS. AND THOSE THINGS TAKE A LOT OF TIME. SO IF I THINK ABOUT CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, RIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVES AND PUBLIC HEARINGS, ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE GETTING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO COME AND SPEAK TO. I THINK ABOUT THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, ZONING COMMITTEE, ONE OF OUR LARGEST COMMITTEE WHERE STAFF IS REALLY, REALLY ENGAGED. [2:12:08] **Aurin Chowdhury:** WE STILL HAVE MULTIPLE ORDINANCES THAT WILL COME BEFORE US AND HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE QUASI-JUDICIAL ISSUES, SOMETIMES ONE AGENDA ITEM CAN TAKE 45 MINUTES. THEY'RE EXTREMELY TECHNICAL IN NATURE. [2:12:26] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND WE ALSO HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO JUST TO IMAGINE SITTING THROUGH COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND GO THROUGH THE WORK OF ALL OF THE ORDINANCES, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, THE QUASI-JUDICIALS, IT JUST SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIT ALL WITHIN A DAY. AND I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD DO IT. [2:12:51] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF WHO SHOW UP INTO OUR CHAMBERS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE THERE FEASIBLY IN ORDER TO BE READY FOR THAT COMMITTEE, AND THEN ALSO DO THE WORK THAT THEY DO OUTSIDE OF PRESENTING TO US AS COUNCIL. I THINK OUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURES, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD OPERATE WITHIN A COMMITTEE SYSTEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW BRINGING FORWARD SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER. AND PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT TODAY. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT GOING OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IS ONE... [2:13:36] **Aurin Chowdhury:** FEASIBLE. TWO, IS GOING TO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HELP US MOVE THROUGH OUR BUSINESS. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BECOME ALL TOO TENUOUS. AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING SITUATION OF IT ALL, THAT IS A NON-STARTER JUST TO BEGIN WITH. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL TODAY. [2:13:57] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, YOU SHARED A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT I ALSO HAD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, AND WHY I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT. I KNOW SO FAR THE CONVERSATION IS REALLY FOCUSED ON BHZ, WHICH DOES HAVE SUBSTANTIAL ITEMS THAT MOVE THROUGH IT THAT TAKES UP SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE A PART OF IT. BUT I'M THINKING OF OTHER COMMITTEES THAT I ALSO AM A PART OF, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THAT HAD 20 ITEMS TO REVIEW OF IN COMMITTEE. THOSE RESPECTIVE COMMITTEES AND SOME OTHERS... [2:14:43] **Robin Wonsley:** ACTUALLY PASSED WORK PLANS IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS TERM TO GUIDE THE WORK, LEGISLATIVE WORK OF THOSE BODIES. AND FROM THOSE WORK PLANS, THERE WERE ACTIONS PUT IN PLACE, PLANS PUT IN PLACE. PEOPLE INTRODUCED POLICIES MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS VIA OUR COMMITTEES. AND THIS PLAN ESSENTIALLY BLOWS ALL OF THAT UP. SOME OF US HAVE WORKED TO MAKE SURE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE TWIN CITIES OR EVEN THE STATE ARE COMING TO OUR COMMITTEES TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS IN THE COMING WEEKS TO HELP US MOVE CRITICAL WORK FORWARD SUCH AS WHAT WE EVEN DISCUSSED EARLIER RESPONDING TO INCREASING GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND HELPING US FIGURE OUT MORE PROACTIVE AND EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS TO THAT. THAT WORK IS LITERALLY, OR A PRESENTATION ON... [2:15:29] **Robin Wonsley:** THAT IS LITERALLY SCHEDULED IN THE COMING WEEKS, MPHS. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THOSE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WHO ARE DOING PHENOMENAL AND DATA-BACKED WORK IN PART OF OUR OWN TWIN CITIES COMMUNITIES. FOR ME, WHO DO TAKE THE COMMITTEE PROCESS VERY SERIOUS, WHO TAKES LEGISLATIVE WORK VERY SERIOUS, I DON'T WANT TO BOTTLENECK MY WORK. I WOULDN'T WANT TO BOTTLENECK OR OBSTRUCT OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK WHO ARE USING PROCESSES TO ADVOCATE FOR THE INTEREST AND THE NEEDS OF THEIR RESIDENTS AND OUR CITY AS A WHOLE. AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT ALONE IS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THIS PROPOSAL, AND HOW THAT ALSO ALIGNS WITH OUR EQUITY GOALS. SO FOR ME, I COULD... [2:16:16] **Robin Wonsley:** NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M INTERESTED IN THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION BEING BROUGHT FORWARD WHERE I GET -- YES, SOME AS WE'RE OFTEN ENCOURAGED AMONGST THIS BODY IS TO ENGAGE AND COMPROMISE. I THINK THE MOTION THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE HEARING FROM COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI ALLOWS A COMPROMISED SOLUTION OR COUNCIL WHO SHARE IN COMMITTEES WANT TO HAVE REPRESENTATION IT. -- OVERREPRESENTATION FROM SOME GEOGRAPHIC AREAS LIKE DOWNTOWN ON THEM AND TRIES TO RECTIFY THAT. AND I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT PROCEED FORWARD THAN US JUST COMPLETELY PRESSING THE NUCLEAR BUTTON ON JUST ALL OF... [2:17:02] **Robin Wonsley:** OUR LEGISLATIVE WORK AND COMMITTEE STRUCTURES IN THIS MOMENT WHEN WE LITERALLY HAVE SIX MEETINGS TO GO. SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO CONVERSATION IDEALLY ON THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO IT. [2:17:18] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** OH, THANK YOU. AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT THIS IS ABOUT REPRESENTATION TO ME. I'VE SPENT THE TIME TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL EQUALLY REPRESENTED ON WHAT WOULD BE NOW CONSIDERED THE NEW COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN -- COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY BROUGHT UP THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION, IF WE GET THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO THAT, AND I CAN SPEAK TO IT THERE, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO NORTHSIDE RESIDENTS ABOUT IF BHZ OR IF PUBLIC SAFETY WAS MORE IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SIT ON FOR THEM. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THIS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE WE ALL GET TO REPRESENT OUR... [2:18:06] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** CONSTITUENTS OVER THE NEXT SIX CYCLES ON THIS. I KNOW THAT I WAS USING BHZ AS AN EXAMPLE IN COMMITTEES TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ME REPRESENTING TO THE NORTHSIDE. BUT I EQUALLY WANTED TO REPRESENT THE NORTHSIDE ON BHZ AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. IT WAS SIMPLY THE NORTHSIDE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF. AND A NORTHSIDE COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED TO BE PUT ON. THAT'S ALL IT WAS FOR ME. THAT'S ALL IT HAS BEEN. [2:18:36] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** I NEVER EVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION OF US NOW JUST KIND OF MOVING EVERYBODY AROUND AND LIKE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WILL GO HERE VERSUS THERE. AND THE INEQUITIES OF ALL COMMITTEES. HAD I KNOWN THAT, I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE PULLED SOME DATA ON CRIME STATS AND THOUGHT ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY VERSUS BHZ. THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS AROUND, YOU NEGOTIATION THE INEQUITIES OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ON BHZ THAT REPRESENT DOWNTOWN. [2:19:09] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THAT COULD BE THE CASE FOR A LOT OF COMMITTEES. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I KNOW SOME OF US DEAL WITH CRIME A LOT MORE THAN OTHERS ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND THERE'S PEOPLE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY THAT DON'T DEAL WITH WHAT I DEAL WITH ON THE NORTHSIDE. [2:19:27] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AGAIN, ALL I ASKED FOR WAS TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY THAT I SERVE ON THESE TWO COMMITTEES FOR SIX COUNCIL CYCLES, AND IT'S TURNED INTO THIS. I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THIS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE COULD GET US THROUGH THE END OF THIS TERM. [2:19:45] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** EVERYONE CAN REPRESENT THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. AND WE CAN FINISH THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY IN THAT WAY. [2:19:54] **Elliot Payne:** I PUT MYSELF INTO QUEUE JUST TO SAY THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND THAT'S LARGELY BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED HERE ON THE DAIS. JUST CONCERNS FROM CURRENT CHAIRS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY PLANNED OUT HERE CALENDAR LONG AGO AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS TERM. AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PRETTY STACKED MEETINGS. I'M ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING THAT IF COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WOULD BE WILLING, WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW THIS IF VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW HERS, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UNDERLYING... [2:20:32] **Elliot Payne:** MOTION, WHICH IS KEEPING ELLISON ON ALL OF HIS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, SHIFTING COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY TO BE THE VICE CHAIR. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, BUT JUST TO SAY THAT HE'S WORKING. [2:20:49] **Elliot Payne:** HE'S DOING POLICY WORK. HE'S RESPONDING TO CONSTITUENTS. HE'S MEETING WITH CONSTITUENTS. THIS WOULD BE THE WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A RESHUFFLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO RETHINK THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF COMMITTEES. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND FINISH OFF THIS TERM. I BROUGHT THIS MOTION FORWARD WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE CLERK AND SOME OF THE WISDOM THAT HE'S BROUGHT FROM MULTIPLE CYCLES OF THIS. AND IF COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW THIS, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI TO WITHDRAW HERS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH MY UNDERLYING MOTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY WE COULD FINISH OFF THIS TERM AND NOT RESTRUCTURE EVERYTHING. [2:21:33] **Council Member:** ABSOLUTELY NOT. [2:21:33] **Emily Koski:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYONE, I THINK WE HAVE COMPLETELY RADICALLY OVERCOMPLICATED THIS. THE THING THAT I AM HEARING IS THAT LOUD AND CLEAR IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT THE NORTHSIDE, AND SHE STOOD UP AND SAID I WILL BE A REPRESENTATION AND ADD MORE WORK TO HER SCHEDULE, MORE TIME, AND DO THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON HAD. [2:22:12] **Emily Koski:** I HEARD EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON WAS OPEN TO THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT IF COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WERE TO SIT ON YOUR ASSIGNMENTS ON BHZ AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, IF YOU ARE AMENABLE TO THAT. [2:22:30] **Jeremiah Ellison:** I'M ALSO IN QUEUE, SO I'M HAPPY TO WAIT TO ANSWER THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. [2:22:42] **Emily Koski:** I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY IF YOU COULD JUST ANSWER THAT NOW. [2:23:17] **Jeremiah Ellison:** COOL. YEAH. I'L MAKE MY FULL STATEMENT NOW THEN. FIRST I'L SAY THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THE TWO COMMITTEE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME. IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN I'L SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI'S AS WELL. AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW TO JUST REPLACE ME ON THE COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. HER AND I DISCUSSED THAT. YOU KNOW. AND I'D SAY THAT ON MY TIME ON THE COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT IT IS -- [2:23:17] **Jeremiah Ellison:** WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT SOME OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS ITEMS THAT I'VE HAD TO REPRESENT AND DEFEND WHETHER THEY BE TRICKY QUASI-JUDICIALS THAT WE'VE HAD TO RESOLVE OR UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL, THEY'VE BEEN IN WARD 4. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO COLLABORATE AS NORTHSIDE REPRESENTATIVES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. [2:23:41] **Jeremiah Ellison:** RIGHT. NOT THAT SHE'S GOING TO STEP IN AND REPRESENT WARD 5 OR THAT I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE WHOLLY REPRESENTING WARD 5, BUT THAT WE COLLABORATE ON NORTHSIDE ISSUES. AND SO I SEE NO REASON THAT THAT COULD NOT OCCUR WITH HER ON THE COMMITTEE. HERE'S THE ONE THING THAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN I THINK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE, I AM AGAINST US HOLDING UP ITEMS IN COMMITTEE AND THEM NEVER REACHING FULL COUNCIL. TOTALLY AGAINST IT. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN ON COMMITTEES SOMETIMES. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD ITEMS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT I... [2:24:27] **Jeremiah Ellison:** PLAN TO VOTE AGAINST AND VOTE AGAINST AT COUNCIL, BUT I SUPPORT THEM MOVING WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO HOLD HOSTAGE ITEMS IN COMMITTEE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND I HOPE IT'S OKAY TO SAY THAT I GOT A COMMITMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW HEY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HOLDING ITEMS HOSTAGE IN THE COUNCIL MEETINGS. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT WHEN I WATCHED THE COW MEETING THE OTHER DAY, THE ONE THING THAT FRUSTRATED ME WAS THAT IF I FELT, AND PEOPLE CAN GIVE THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE, I... [2:25:14] **Jeremiah Ellison:** FELT THAT MY COMMITTEE CHAIR ESSENTIALLY TRIED TO ASK THAT, YOU KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON HAS AN ETHOS OF MAKING SURE THINGS GET DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE. ARE YOU GOING TO CARRY THAT SAME ETHOS. AND I THINK THAT HIS MEANING AND INTENTION IN ASKING THAT QUESTION GOT REALLY MISCONSTRUED. SO THAT'S A POSITION THAT I HAVE. THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I TOOK. IF PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN WAS ASKING IN THAT MOMENT, I THINK SEEKING CLARITY WITHOUT ACCUSATION WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OPERATIVE MOVE THERE. [2:25:46] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AND SO THAT WAS HOW I TOOK THAT. AND I WOULD LOVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. BUT AT ITS FACE, GIVEN CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, YEAH, LET'S NOT HOLD THINGS HOSTAGE IN COMMITTEE. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM, FORWARD THEM WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION, WITH VOTES AGAINST THEM, WORK TO DEFEAT THEM IN COUNCIL. THAT'S MY POSITION. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON THIS DAIS AND IN THIS BODY THAT AREN'T ALWAYS IDEAL. RIGHT. SOMETIMES WE QUESTION -- SOMETIMES WE'RE WRONG ABOUT THINGS. SOMETIMES WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T DO OUR FULL READING. I DON'T EXPECT THIS COUNCIL TO BE SMART 100% OF THE TIME. I DON'T EXPECT THIS COUNCIL TO BE 100% CORRECT 100%... [2:26:34] **Jeremiah Ellison:** OF THE TIME. THE ONE THING I DO EXPECT IS FOR US TO NOT, AGAIN, ASSIGN MOTIVE, WHICH I FELT LIKE HAPPENED TO COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN THE OTHER DAY WHEN HE ASKED THAT QUESTION. AND I DON'T EXPECT US TO WEAPONIZE, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER CLUNKILY YOU THOUGHT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, IN A WAY TO ME CAME OFF AS INAPPROPRIATE, OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL RULES. EVEN I'M NOT SAYING WITH INTENT, BUT EVEN VEERING IN PRACTICE WITH XENOPHOBIA. I DIDN'T APPRECIATE HOW THE DISCUSSION UNFOLDED. [2:27:12] **Jeremiah Ellison:** THAT'S MY PIECE. I'L SET THAT DOWN. BUT AT ITS FACE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW AND I, WE DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING. WE DON'T SHARE A LOT OF IDEOLOGY. BUT I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE DO SHARE IS A DEEP AND UNABIDING COMMITMENT TO THE NORTHSIDE. [APPLAUSE] [2:27:38] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AND THEN THE LAST THING I'L SAY JUST SINCE I HAVE THE MICROPHONE, I THINK THAT A LOT HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT HOW MUCH COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS OCCUPY A GRAND PERCENTAGE OF OUR JOBS. [2:27:45] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WELL IN MY CAREER, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE PEOPLE, YOU'VE HAD SOME FOLKS ON FOUR COMMITTEES, AND SOME FOLKS ON ONE COMMITTEE. RIGHT? DOES THE PERSON ON ONE COMMITTEE, ARE THEY LESS OF A COUNCIL MEMBER? SO IT'S NEVER BEEN ARTICULATED THAT WAY. SO I THINK A LOT HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT SORT OF THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE THAT COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS TAKE UP IN OUR JOB. AND I THINK THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND BAD FAITH AS WELL. AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERYBODY'S HERE DOING THEIR JOB. THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS IS DOING THEIR JOB FULLTIME AND WE SHOULDN'T OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER ASSUMPTION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION BEFORE US, I'L SUPPORT IT. IF IT... [2:28:31] **Jeremiah Ellison:** DOESN'T PREVAIL, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE NEXT MOTION AS WELL. [2:28:31] **Aisha Chughtai:** YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO START WITH THIS INCORRECT CHARACTERIZATION THAT COMMITTEES TAKE DISPOSITIVE ACTIONS ON ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE THEM. [2:28:55] **Aisha Chughtai:** ULTIMATELY, COMMITTEES MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY. ALL 13 OF US VOTE ON EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY. WE TAKE FINAL ACTION THAT SOMETIMES IS PRESENTED TO THE MAYOR. THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DISPOSE OF THAT ITEM IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. BUT ALL THAT TO SAY, COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF WHETHER YOU GET TO WEIGH IN ON AN ISSUE OR NOT. THEY JUST AREN'T. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THE BODY HOLDS THE AUTHORITY TO PASS OR TO APPROVE OR DENY ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE US. YOU KNOW, AT ITS FACE VALUE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE MOTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW HAS BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, I... [2:29:42] **Aisha Chughtai:** WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT TODAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE START A NEW CYCLE NEXT WEEK ON MONDAY. AND AGENDA SETTINGS FOR ALL COMMITTEES THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. IN THE BHZ COMMITTEE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE WILL LIKELY BE BUSINESS OWNERS FOR AT LEAST TWO OF THEM COMING IN WHO HAVE LIKELY MOVED AROUND AND ACCOMMODATED THEIR SCHEDULES IN ORDER TO COME IN AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND GET APPROVALS FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THAT COMMITTEE. IN THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK. [2:30:23] **Aisha Chughtai:** AGENDA SETTING HAPPENED YESTERDAY. THIS IS ALREADY PLANNED. STAFF HAS PLANNED THEIR PRESENTATIONS AROUND IT. PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FOR THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE ADJUSTED THEIR SCHEDULES AROUND IT. SO WE'RE SAYING ON THURSDAY, TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY UPEND OUR ENTIRE STRUCTURE, AND BY MONDAY, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT REDOING CLERK ASSIGNMENTS, REDOING ATTORNEY ASSIGNMENTS. [2:30:51] **Aisha Chughtai:** RESCHEDULING STAFF TIME FOR PRESENTATIONS. ASKING THOSE WHO ARE COMING IN FOR A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS NEXT WEEK TO AGAIN REACCOMMODATE THEIR SCHEDULES. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS FAIR. AND I THINK THAT THE BURDEN RESTS ON US AS THE LEADERS OF THIS BODY OR AS EQUAL MEMBERS OF THIS BODY TO DO THE HARD WORK OF FIGURING OUT HOW WE MOVE OUR STRUCTURE AROUND TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF CONSISTENCY WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE TERM HOW AGENDAS ARE OPERATING, HOW STAFF ARE FORESHADOWING, PREPARING FOR THE FINAL ITEMS BEFORE THE END... [2:31:37] **Aisha Chughtai:** OF THIS TERM. SO YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE THE MOTION BEFORE US TODAY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT. [2:31:47] **Linea Palmisano:** YES, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD BE NEEDING TO REARRANGE SCHEDULES IMMEDIATELY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THIS PROPOSAL BY COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW DOESN'T ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 29TH. SO NOT CHANGING PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES. NOT CHANGING NOTICES OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES FOR THIS CYCLE. SO I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I HEARD THAT SHE SEEMED VERY UPSET BY THAT. I WOULD BE TOO. BUT THAT'S JUST NOT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU. [2:32:34] **Jamal Osman:** YEAH. JUST LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY. REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. JUST THINK ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE NOT CONSULTED WITH PROFESSIONAL STAFF. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC. I'M TELLING YOU, WE ARE GOING TO BE CONFUSING THE PUBLIC. THIS MIGHT WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR DESIRE OF BEING A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE. BUT THIS IS -- WE'RE BIGGER THAN -- THIS IS A HUGE CITY. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT IT. [2:33:09] **Jamal Osman:** IT'S A BAD IDEA FOR BHZ STAFF, FOR BHZ COMMITTEE, FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THE QUASI-JUDICIAL, FOR THE SCHEDULE, THE WAY WE SET UP THE WHOLE THING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO IT. IT MIGHT NOT WORK. ARE WE GOING TO COME BACK TO FIX IT? BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING INTO UNKNOWN TERRITORY. BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE THOSE MEETINGS LASTING FOR HOW LONG? 12 HOURS. I DON'T MIND BEING HERE. BUT IS THE STAFF GOING TO BE HERE? PEOPLE GOT A BABYSIT TO PICK UP. THEY HAVE LIVES. THEY HAVE PLANNED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND WE HAVE HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THAT DOOR FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR. OF COURSE I'L BE VOTING AGAINST IT AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T PASS. THANK YOU. [2:33:57] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [2:33:57] **Jason Chavez:** NO. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [2:33:57] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [2:33:57] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. [2:33:57] **Emily Koski:** NAY. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [2:33:57] **Robin Wonsley:** NAY. [2:33:57] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [2:34:17] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [2:34:17] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [2:34:17] **Aurin Chowdhury:** NAY. [2:34:17] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [2:34:17] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [2:34:17] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [2:34:17] **Jamal Osman:** NO. [2:34:17] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [2:34:17] **Michael Rainville:** AYE. [2:34:17] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:34:32] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [2:34:32] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [2:34:32] **Elliot Payne:** NAY. [2:34:32] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE SIX AYES AND SIX NAYS. [2:34:49] **Elliot Payne:** THAT ITEM FAILS. WE ARE BACK ON MY UNDERLYING MOTION UNLESS SOME -- VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:34:49] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, COLLEAGUES, THAT IS BEFORE ALL OF YOU TODAY. AND THIS -- I WILL MOVE THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL. AND ASK FOR A SECOND AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK ON IT. [2:35:09] **Council Member:** SECOND. [2:35:09] **Aisha Chughtai:** ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS -- WE -- I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DISPOSE OF THIS ITEM TODAY AND WE FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR STRUCTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. I, YOU KNOW, ENDED UP SUPPORTING COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S MOTION AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO POINTED OUT THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND THAT REALLY CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE. AND I AGAIN HAVE TOLD HER -- I'VE TOLD COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, AND I'L REPEAT IT AGAIN. REALLY APPRECIATE HER ATTEMPTS TO HELP US FIND A BETTER PATH FORWARD THAT WE CAN FIND SOME CONSENSUS AROUND. SO THIS IS MY ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME THING. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS A STRUCTURE... [2:35:55] **Aisha Chughtai:** THAT NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH. BUT PROVIDES US WITH AT LEAST A PATH FORWARD IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP THE WORK OF OUR COMMITTEES MOVING. THAT ACCOMMODATES THE REALITIES AND ALLOWS COUNCIL MEMBERS, ENSURES THAT NO COUNCIL MEMBER IS SERVING ON ALL FOUR OF THESE STANDING COMMITTEES. AND THAT THERE'S BALANCE BETWEEN ALL MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WORK OF THE BODY. IT ENSURES THAT, YOU KNOW, NO MEMBER WALKS AWAY WITH LESS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS THAN THEY STARTED WITH. AND IT ENSURES THAT ON BHZ, WHICH IT IS VERY... [2:36:42] **Aisha Chughtai:** IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE QUORUM IN BHZ AND KEEP THE WORK OF BHZ MOVING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW IS ABLE TO REPLACE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON THERE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS. AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION HOPEFULLY GETTING TO SOME RESOLUTION HERE TODAY. [2:37:08] **Elliot Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED AMENDMENT, AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. I'L RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [2:37:08] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI -- VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, FOR YOUR PREVIOUS VOTE, AND ALSO FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS. [2:37:29] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** ONE, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW IT WAS DETERMINED FOR ME THAT I WOULD RATHER SUPPORT THE NORTHSIDE ON BHZ VERSUS PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. I WOULD HAVE RATHER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS THAT I'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE. AND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN DONE A SURVEY AND SAY WHICH COMMITTEE WOULD YOU RATHER SEE ME ON VERSUS IT BE SELECTED FOR ME. I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS I WAS REFERENCING BHZ OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, AND SO SOMEHOW IT'S BEEN SELECTED FOR ME THAT I WOULD RATHER BE ON BHZ THAN PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND I DON'T LIKE THAT AND I'M SURE THE NORTHSIDE WOULDN'T APPRECIATE THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE... [2:38:14] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** REASONS WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. AND THE SECOND ONE IS, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE IS BEING TAKEN OFF OF BHZ FOR ME, AND THEN I'M BEING PUT ON BHZ. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM OR LIKE, HOW THAT CONVERSATION IS EVEN IN PLAY WITH THIS. AND THEN THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CONVERSATION CAME UP ABOUT THE INEQUITY OF THREE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS -- I MEAN, THREE DOWNTOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ON BHZ. AND YOU KNOW, THE MATH AIN'T MATHING FOR ME. BUT I GET LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING. BUT I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHO SHOULD BE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY VERSUS YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHOSE WARDS HAS... [2:39:05] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. WHOSE WARD HAS THE MOST SAFETY -- WARDS FOUR AND FIVE ARE GOING TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. WHEN I JOINED THIS COUNCIL, MY WARD WAS LEADING IN VIOLENT CRIMES AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE TIME TO SORT THROUGH THAT DATA. MAYBE I DON'T BELONG ON SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES. IF WE TOOK THE TIME TO ACTUALLY RESEARCH WHO IS ON COMMITTEES AND WHO IS NOT. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE OF THIS. I CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY I AM VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUES SAID YOU CAN GO ON THAT COMMITTEE VERSUS THIS COMMITTEE, WHEN THAT WAS NOT THE GOAL HERE. THE GOAL WAS ACTUALLY TO REPRESENT THE NORTHSIDE ON... [2:39:54] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THOSE COMMITTEES AS THEY HAPPENED, THIS ENTIRE TERM, BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD ON THE DAIS AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT, WHAT I FELT LIKE IN THAT MOMENT, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN ASKED OF ME IS NOT WHAT WAS INTERPRETED BY THE NORTHSIDE, AND IT DEFINITELY ISN'T WHAT WAS INTERPRETED BY ME. THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD UP HERE IS LITERALLY, I WILL VOTE FOR YOU IF YOU DO WHAT I SAY. I CAN'T TELL YOU ANYBODY ON THE NORTHSIDE WHO IS GOING TO AGREE TO THAT, AND DEFINITELY NOT ME. AND SO I WASN'T GOING TO SAY YES TO THAT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AT THAT TIME. [2:40:35] **Jamal Osman:** THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID, MA'AM. [2:40:35] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THE CONVERSATION IS DOCUMENTED. AND INTERPRETATION IS INTERPRETATION. I HEARD WHAT I HEARD. AND THE MANY PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT TO ME TO ASK ME IF THEY HAD HEARD WHAT THEY HEARD, HEARD WHAT THEY HEARD. IT HAD NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS RELIGION OR ANYTHING. IT LITERALLY WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS BEFORE ME. AND I RESENT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT. THAT IT WAS A DIRECT QUESTION TOWARDS ME AND IT WAS RELATED TO A VOTE. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER NOW SAYING I WANT TO BE ON BHZ, I WANT TO BE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER SAID I'L VOTE FOR YOU IF YOU DO WHAT I... [2:41:22] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** SAY. THAT AIN'T COOL. THE DOCUMENTATION IS THERE. IT'S RECORDED. I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S WENT INTO THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WORK IS COMING FROM. BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL I ASKED WAS TO BE APPOINTED TO TWO COMMITTEES. THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS DOWNPLAYED TO THERE'S ONLY SIX CYCLES LEFT. [2:41:44] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THAT'S IT. THERE'S ONLY SIX CYCLES LEFT. ALL I ASKED WAS TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR AN ALREADY UNDER-SERVED COMMUNITY FOR SIX CYCLES OF THIS COUNCIL'S BUSINESS. THAT'S ALL I ASKED FOR. I LITERALLY SAID THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE NORTHSIDE TO THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND HAVE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO BE A FRIENDLY FACE FOR THOSE PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. IF THEY'RE HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STEP OFF THE DAIS AND GO AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. THAT'S ALL I ASKED FOR. I DID NOT ASK FOR -- AND I WELCOME THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON ABOUT MOVING THINGS AND MAKING SURE. [2:42:23] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THAT'S HAPPENED. IT JUST HAPPENED TO ME A MONTH AGO WITH UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE WAS NO CONTENTION WITH US ON THAT. I UNDERSTAND BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND PEOPLE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING YOU WANT HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, REPRESENTATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THE MATTERS THAT HAPPEN ON THE NORTHSIDE. THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS ALL. AND IT'S TURNED INTO NOW I'M GOING TO GET ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEN MICHAEL RAINVILLE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE COMMITTEE. THERE'S NO BASIS FOR TAKING HIM OFF OF THIS COMMITTEE. HE REPRESENTS A WARD THAT IS HIGHLY, I MEAN, DOWNTOWN IS 50% OF THE BUSINESS IN OUR CITY. SO IF 50% OF THE COUNCIL... [2:43:08] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** MEMBERS ARE LIKE REPRESENTED ON THE COMMITTEE, I MEAN, COULD WE GO BACK AND ACTUALLY DO THE MATH AND NOT LIKE MAKE UP FIGURES IN OUR HEAD TO -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT CONVERSATION IS COMING FROM OR LIKE DOES COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE HAVE MORE BUSINESSES IN HIS WARD THAN COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN? SHOULD SHE BE THE ONE THAT'S NOT ON THIS COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF RAINVILLE? I DON'T KNOW. DOES HE HAVE MORE BUSINESS IN HIS WARD THAN OSMAN? SHOULD HE HAVE NOT BEEN THE CHAIR? I DON'T KNOW. NO ONE'S EVER DONE FIGURES TO FIGURE OUT WHO SHOULD BE THE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE OR THE VICE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE BASED ON HOW THEIR WARD IS AFFECTED BY IT. PEOPLE, THE PRESIDENT DIRECTED US TO SIT ON THESE... [2:43:55] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** COMMITTEES AND I JUST ASKED TO REPLACE TWO. THAT'S IT. [APPLAUSE] [2:44:06] **Michael Rainville:** THE FIRST I HEARD OF THIS WAS THIS MORNING SO I'M KIND OF SHOCKED. I'M TRYING TO THINK THROUGH WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME. [2:44:12] **Michael Rainville:** OF COURSE I TAKE IT VERY PERSONAL. IT'S AN AFFRONT TO ME. YOU'RE TRYING TO BE MEAN TO ME. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND I REPRESENT THE WARD THAT HAS THE MOST SALES TAX REVENUE, THE MOST LICENSE AND PERMITS. AND I WORKED IN HOSPITALITY DOWNTOWN FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS CONVENTION VISITORS ASSOCIATION. NOW THE TAXPAYERS OF THIRD WARD WILL NOT HAVE A VOICE ON THE BHZ COMMITTEE IF THIS PASSES. I'M BEING SILENCED BECAUSE OF MY KNOWLEDGE, MY SUPPORT OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I'M BEING SILENCED TO REPRESENT THE TAXPAYERS OF WARD 3. AND I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY ALL MY LIFE AND SEEN COUNCIL LEADERSHIP ON ACTION IN PAST COUNCILS, LEADERSHIP THAT... [2:44:59] **Michael Rainville:** CONSULTED WITH COLLEAGUES BEFORE THEY TRY TO TAKE THEM OFF COMMITTEES. LEADERSHIP THAT DID NOT SILENCE THE COLLEAGUES FOR REPRESENTING THE VOICES OF THE WARD. I'M PROUD OF THE WORK I'M BEING TAKEN OFF FOR THAT COMMERCIAL SIX-DAY NOTICE. [2:45:14] **Michael Rainville:** THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF WARD 3 TOLD ME TO VOTE THAT WAY. NOW YOU'RE PUNISHING ME ON THAT. SHAME ON YOU. [APPLAUSE] [2:45:26] **Aisha Chughtai:** I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, I'M REALLY SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY. THIS IS NOT PERSONAL. THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK. [2:45:35] **Aisha Chughtai:** COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, HOURS AND HOURS IN COMMITTEE OVER, AND AS A BODY, OVER THE LAST TWO CYCLES DELIBERATING -- DELIBERATING THIS ISSUE. I GET IT, DEMOCRACY IS MESSY. BUT IT IS TIME FOR US TO FIND CONSENSUS AND GET BACK TO THE CRITICAL WORK THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. [2:46:07] **Elliot Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS CALLED THE QUESTION. IS THERE A SECOND? [2:46:07] **Council Member:** I'L JUST REMOVE MYSELF. WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON SUBSTANTIVE. [2:46:07] **Aisha Chughtai:** GREAT. I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION IF NO ONE ELSE IS IN QUEUE THEN AND WE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION. [2:46:07] **Elliot Payne:** ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT'S MOTION. THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. AND I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [2:46:33] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [2:46:33] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** NO. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [2:46:33] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [2:46:33] **Emily Koski:** NAY. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [2:46:33] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [2:46:33] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [2:46:33] **Linea Palmisano:** NO. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [2:46:48] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [2:46:48] **Katie Cashman:** NO. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [2:46:48] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [2:46:48] **Michael Rainville:** NO. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:46:48] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [2:46:48] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [2:46:48] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE SEVEN AYES AND FIVE NAYS. [2:47:06] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THAT COMPLETES THE BHZ REPORT. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [2:47:25] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM FOR APPROVAL. THAT'S MINNEAPOLIS-SAINT PAUL INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT NOISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT OF LOREN OLSON. WITH THAT, I'L MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS. [2:47:40] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [2:47:51] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [2:47:51] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [2:47:51] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [2:47:51] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [2:47:51] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [2:47:51] **Casey Carl:** JENKINS IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [2:48:06] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [2:48:06] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [2:48:06] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [2:48:06] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE IS ABSENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:48:06] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [2:48:06] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [2:48:06] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:48:06] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THAT COMPLETES THE REPORTS OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICES. WE HAVE THREE NOTICES TODAY. FIRST I'M GIVING NOTICES OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING -- AMENDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE JOINT DISPARITY STUDY, EXPIRATION OF THE CHAPTER, AND ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATION OF THE PROGRAM. THE SECOND AND THIRD ITEMS ARE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ WHO IS GIVING NOTICE THAT HE INTENDS TO BRING FORWARD A MOTION AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO DISCHARGE FROM THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING... [2:48:52] **Elliot Payne:** COMMITTEE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF TWO ORDINANCES RELATED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SALE. NEXT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY GIVES NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER -- RELATED TO OFFENSES, MISCELLANEOUS WEAPONS, COMPONENTS POSSESSIONS STORAGE AND USE OF FIREARMS. FINALLY, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI GIVES NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 2 CHAPTER 40 OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO ADMINISTRATION, WORKPLACE REGULATIONS, PROVISIONS AND EXEMPTIONS. THOSE NOTICES -- ARE [2:49:37] **Elliot Payne:** THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE NOTICES? THOSE NOTICES ARE HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTIONS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT IS INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. FIRST, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO -- AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION CODE FOR FIRST READING AND REFERRAL BY REPEALING CHAPTER 36 AND HOLD FOR CREATION OF ARTS COMMISSION -- APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSION REFORMS AND ADDING SECTION 43.50 RELATED TO FUNDING FOR PUBLIC ART. SECOND, PURSUANT TO NOTICE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO MOVES TO INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF ORDINANCE AMENDING... [2:50:22] **Elliot Payne:** ADMINISTRATION CODE BY REPEALING CHAPTER 35. -- APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSION REFORM. MAY I HAVE A MOTION. [2:50:22] **Council Member:** SO MOVED. [2:50:22] **Council Member:** SECOND. [2:50:38] **Elliot Payne:** IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [2:50:38] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [2:50:38] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [2:50:38] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [2:50:38] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [2:50:38] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [2:50:38] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [2:50:38] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [2:50:38] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [2:50:38] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [2:50:38] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [2:50:53] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:50:53] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [2:50:53] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [2:50:53] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [2:50:53] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:50:53] **Elliot Payne:** THAT MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE FOUR RESOLUTIONS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION? [2:51:10] **Council Member:** SO MOVED. [2:51:10] **Council Member:** SECOND. [2:51:10] **Elliot Payne:** THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:51:10] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [2:51:10] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [2:51:10] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [2:51:10] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [2:51:10] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [2:51:10] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [2:51:10] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [2:51:10] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [2:51:10] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [2:51:10] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [2:51:25] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [2:51:25] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [2:51:25] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:51:25] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [2:51:25] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [2:51:25] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [2:51:25] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:51:25] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES. THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED. THE NEXT IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE ONE ITEM TODAY WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION OF EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME UPDATES ORDINANCE. [2:51:41] **Elliot Payne:** THIS WAS REFERRED TO THE COUNCIL WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AND HAS BEEN POSTPONED TWICE. I WILL SEE IF EITHER THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OR THE AUTHOR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM OR MAKE A MOTION. OH, I SEE VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [2:52:00] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT COLLEAGUES MAY REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN CONTINUED A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND IS BEFORE US AGAIN TODAY. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STACKS OF PAPER. BUT THIS SHOULD BE THE LAST ONE LEFT. WE'VE DISPOSED OF ALL THE NEW PAPERS. [2:52:23] **Aisha Chughtai:** AND THIS IS A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. SO FOR CONTEXT, YOU MAY REMEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO WORKED WITH OUR STAFF AND IN CIVIL RIGHTS ALONG WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BRING FORWARD A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME POLICIES TO ALIGN IT WITH THE STATE'S SICK AND SAFE TIME POLICY THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU ARE LARGELY TECHNICAL IN NATURE. EXCEPT FOR THE VERY LAST ONE. YOU'L SEE A LOT OF LIKE UNDERLINES HERE. THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'M OFFERING ARE ALL ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. [2:53:10] **Aisha Chughtai:** THE MOST SUBSTANTIVE ONE AS I MENTIONED IS THE ONE ON THE VERY LAST PAGE. WHICH JUST REMOVES LANGUAGE AROUND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. SO THIS IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY WHO ARE COVERED BY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, AND THAT DOESN'T JUST MEAN THE CITY ENTERPRISE BUT WITHIN OUR BROADER COMMUNITY, HAVE THE SAME MINIMUM RIGHTS TO EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME THAT EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE HAS. BUT BEYOND THAT, MOST OF THESE OTHER CHANGES OR ALL OF THESE OTHER CHANGES ARE LARGELY TECHNICAL IN NATURE. YOU MAY REMEMBER THERE WERE A FEW MORE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THIS POLICY THAT I WAS HOPING TO... [2:53:56] **Aisha Chughtai:** MAKE. AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PATIENCE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO HAS HAD TO COMPLETE THIS WORK INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO DELAY IT CYCLE AFTER CYCLE, I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD THE CHANGES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE OUTSTANDING PIECES THAT WAS A PART OF THE NOTICE THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT I WILL MOVE MY AMENDMENTS FOR APPROVAL, AND ASK FOR THE BODY'S SUPPORT. [2:54:35] **Elliot Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. IS THERE A SECOND? [2:54:35] **Council Member:** SECOND. [2:54:35] **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. [2:54:51] **Linea Palmisano:** AND IT PROVIDES OUR STAFF TO ENFORCE A HIGHER AND CONSISTENT STANDARD FOR SAFE TIME REGULATIONS SIMILAR TO STATE LAW. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES CONSISTENCY AND CLARITY FOR WORKERS ACROSS MINNEAPOLIS, AND THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. I FEEL STRONGLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ONE SET OF RULES FOR EMPLOYERS TO FOLLOW AND FOR EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTAND. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO CONTINUE WORKING ON HER LARGER BODY OF WORK THAT SHE'D LIKE TO ADD. AND I APPRECIATE HER SEPARATION IN THESE TWO PIECES. I UNDERSTOOD THERE MIGHT BE SMALL CHANGES BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY THAT DIDN'T SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGE THE... [2:55:37] **Linea Palmisano:** INTENT OF THIS ORDINANCE. THIS WAS A DENSE AND COMPLICATED. THERE ARE SO MANY CHANGES YOU SEE IN THE DOCUMENT. BUT I AM CURIOUS AND JUST IN A FRIENDLY WAY THE PURPOSE OF THESE CHANGES MOVING BACK TO DECEMBER 31ST WHEN CITY STAFF IS READY TO ENFORCE THESE ORDINANCES. AND I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THESE ORDINANCES. [2:56:07] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. THIS WAS -- YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THAT WARD WEEK OVER LABOR DAY HERE. THIS WAS A POLICY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PASSED. AT THIS POINT, OVER A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF AGO. AND SO THE MOVING OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS JUST TO ACCOMMODATE FOR WHEN THIS POLICY WAS INITIALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PASSED, AND THE TIME BETWEEN PASSAGE AND IMPLEMENTATION. AND JUST MOVING THAT BACK AND ALLOWING STAFF TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO FOR IMPLEMENTATION, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ISSUE. THAT WAS STRUCK OUT ALL THE WAY AT THE... [2:56:52] **Aisha Chughtai:** END, AND JUST GIVING FOLKS SOME TIME TO BE READY TO ENTER INTO APPROPRIATE AGREEMENTS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LOCAL LAWS. [2:57:05] **Linea Palmisano:** SO MR. CHAIR, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARY. I HAVE NOT -- BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST GIVEN TO ME THIS MORNING, I HAVE NOT EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO ASK CITY STAFF IF THEY WOULD BE READY. BUT I DO SEE MR. [2:57:21] **Linea Palmisano:** KAINE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I WOULD ASK IF HE'D BE WILLING TO OPINE GIVEN THESE DELAYS. IS IT NECESSARY TO DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS OR COULD WE DO THAT WITH ITS ORIGINAL START DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST, I BELIEVE. [2:57:39] **Elliot Payne:** COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO GOT IN QUEUE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT HER TO ADDRESS. [2:57:42] **Linea Palmisano:** I'L CALL ON MADAM ATTORNEY. [2:57:45] **Kristyn Anderson:** THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY OUR RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE THERE IN THE CHUGHTAI AMENDMENTS, THERE ARE SOME NEW ENFORCEMENT AMENDMENT AUTHORITIES BOTH TO FINES TO THE CITY AND PENALTIES TO EMPLOYERS. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME FOR STAFF TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE READY FOR THOSE THINGS AND GIVE SOME TIME OF NOTICE TO EMPLOYERS THAT THERE ARE SOME MORE PENALTIES. [2:58:20] **Kristyn Anderson:** SO IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE TO THE DECEMBER 31ST DATE. [2:58:20] **Linea Palmisano:** I SEE. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THEN THAT ADVICE. I WOULD THINK THAT OFFERING MORE FLEXIBILITY WOULD TAKE -- WOULDN'T. OKAY. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE PER MY NEXT QUESTION THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS HAD TIME TO REVIEW AND VET ALL OF THESE CHANGES AND DOES NOT SEE THAT THESE CHANGES CHANGE THE SPIRIT OR INTENTIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH IS TO BE MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. [2:59:06] **Kristyn Anderson:** COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO THE SUBSTANTIVE PROVISIONS ARE IN LINE WITH THE STATE STATUTE. THERE AGAIN ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS THAT DON'T EXIST UNDER THE STATE STATUTE. BUT THAT WOULD GIVE SOME MORE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX OF THE ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL ISSUES AND VIOLATIONS. [2:59:35] **Aisha Chughtai:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY. FOLKS MAY BE ABLE TO SEE THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH A COUGH. SO WASN'T ABLE TO GET THROUGH A COUPLE MORE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION. I WANT TO SINCERELY THANK OUR CITY ATTORNEY ANDERSON AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY KAINE FOR THEIR DILIGENCE AND HARD WORK AND COLLABORATION WITH MY OFFICE IN GETTING THESE AMENDMENTS VETTED AND PREPARED AND READY TO GO FOR TODAY. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WORKING WITH US UNTIL THE LATE HOURS OF LAST NIGHT, AND EARLY THIS MORNING, TO MAKE SURE... [3:00:22] **Aisha Chughtai:** EVERYTHING WAS ACTUALLY FULLY READY TO GO. AND I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT MEANT THAT THIS WAS SENT TO COLLEAGUES THIS MORNING PRIOR TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING. SO WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK. I WANT TO THANK THE WORKPLACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR REVIEW OF THIS POLICY AND MAKING A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO US ON MAKING UPDATES TO OUR SICK AND SAFE TIME POLICY. WE, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE RIGHT NOW ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MADE TO US. [3:01:01] **Aisha Chughtai:** THIS IS IMPORTANT PROGRESS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I THINK IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUSLY BENEFICIAL TO WORKING PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON BRINGING THIS POLICY FORWARD, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK THE WORKING PEOPLE. THE DAY-TO-DAY UNION MEMBERS, NON-UNIONIZED WHO HAVE LED THE WAY OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS POLICY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, LEADING OUR STATE IN ESTABLISHING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THEN AGAIN, CONTINUING THEIR ADVOCACY AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND BACK HERE AGAIN AT THE CITY. WE ARE BETTER FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. FOR YOUR ADVOCACY AND ALL YOU DO TO... [3:01:47] **Aisha Chughtai:** IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. [3:01:47] **Elliot Payne:** SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'L ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE CHUGHTAI MOTION. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [3:02:02] **Jason Chavez:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [3:02:02] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** ELLISON. [3:02:02] **Jeremiah Ellison:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** KOSKI. [3:02:02] **Emily Koski:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. [3:02:02] **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. [3:02:02] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. [3:02:02] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. [3:02:02] **Katie Cashman:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. [3:02:02] **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [3:02:02] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [3:02:02] **Elliot Payne:** AYE. [3:02:02] **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 11 AYES. [3:02:25] **Elliot Payne:** THAT CARRIES AND THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ANNOUNCEMENTS. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [3:02:25] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO -- YEAH, THAT WASN'T ON ME. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TO GO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA TODAY AND THE COMING DAYS. TEAMSTERS 320, WHICH ARE CRITICAL SERVICE WORKERS WHO HELP THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FUNCTION AND OPERATE DAILY AND MEET THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY STUDENT RESIDENTS. THEY ARE STRIKING AND THEY ARE FACING ESCALATING ACTIONS FROM THE U OF M ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY POLICE WHO'VE SPENT THE PAST 24 HOURS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN ON STRIKE ARRESTING AND ANTAGONIZING STRIKING WORKERS. SO THOSE... [3:03:12] **Robin Wonsley:** WORKERS COULD REALLY USE THE SUPPORT OF THEIR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS OR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. I KNOW MANY OF US ARE USED TO DOING THAT. MANY OF US WALKED THE PICKET LINES WHEN OUR EDUCATORS WENT ON STRIKE, SAME WITH OUR NURSES AND MANY OTHER UNIONS WHO'VE HAD TO TAKE THE UNFORTUNATE ACTION OF STRIKING IN ORDER TO GET THEIR NEEDS MET. [3:03:38] **Robin Wonsley:** AND TEAMSTERS 320 IS ADVOCATING FOR A FAIR CONTRACT. THEY'RE SOME OF THE LOWEST PAID WORKERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. ALSO SOME OF THE MOST DIVERSE WORKERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, AND DESERVE TO WORK IN A PLACE THAT HONORS THEIR DIGNITY AND DOES SO THROUGH COMPENSATION WHILE ALSO NOT CREATING HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENTS THAT HAVE DEEPLY IMPACTED WORKERS OF COLOR AT THE U. SO AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING 24/7 PICKET LINES SPECIFICALLY AT THE EAST BANK CAMPUS. I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO OUT AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT. [3:04:15] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 11th, AND WE ALL REMEMBER THE TRAGEDIES OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001. NEARLY 3,000 LIVES WERE LOST IN THE TERRORIST ATTACKS. IT'S A DAY TO REFLECT ON THE IMPACT OF THOSE EVENTS, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE RESILIENCE OF THOSE WHO SURVIVED AND THAT HELPED: LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRST RESPONDERS. I WOULD LIKE ALL OF US TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN REMEMBRANCE OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001. [3:04:58] **Elliot Payne:** THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, WE'VE COMPLETED OUR BUSINESS TODAY. AND WITH NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.