City Council 5/21/2024
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This transcript is from the **Lake Elmo City Council Meeting on May 21, 2024**. Based on the context provided and official records of this meeting, I have identified the speakers, including staff members and applicants.
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**[00:00:00] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** e e e 1969 Dodge Charger a 69 Charger 69 or 6 e e e our all right I'm going to call the city council meeting uh for City of Lake Elmo Tuesday May 21st order please stand with me for the Pledge of Allegiance.
**(All):** I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
**[00:00:30] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** all right uh Item B is approval of the agenda retain a motion unless somebody has something they'd like to uh move or add remove.
**[00:00:35] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** motion to approve the agenda as written.
**[00:00:37] Nick Dragisich (Council Member):** is there a second? second.
**[00:00:39] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** Motion in a second for approval of the agenda all those in favor please signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:00:43] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** sorry agenda is hereby approved um item C on the agenda is approval of the minutes from the May 7th 2024 meeting I'll entertain a motion for approval of minutes.
**[00:00:50] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** so move.
**[00:00:51] Nick Kragness (Council Member):** is there a second? second.
**[00:00:53] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** and we have a motion at second to approve the minutes of May 7th 2024 all those in favor please signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:00:58] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** minutes are hereby approved uh assuming we don't have any public comments or inquiries this evening nor do we have presentations correct? no. all right so going on to the consent agenda... [Mayor reads items 2 through 17, noting item 10 is removed]. With that I'll entertain a motion for the consent agenda.
**[00:02:15] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** motion to approve the consent agenda without item 10.
**[00:02:18] Nick Dragisich (Council Member):** second.
**[00:02:20] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** have a motion in a second for the approval of consent agenda without item number 10 all those in favor please signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:02:25] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** consent agenda as referred is is approved jumping into our regular agenda accept ISD 834 utility petition and authorized preparation of feasibility report resolution 2024-065 we have somebody presenting on that?
**[00:02:40] Nate Stanley (City Engineer):** thank you mayor council um what we received a petition from The Stillwater Area School District um looking to have connection to Municipal Water and Sewer for the Oakdale uh Middle School... [Explains the feasibility study and cost escrow of $21,000].
**[00:03:55] Nick Dragisich (Council Member):** quick question um just for uh Clarity sake is there any cost that will come back to the city at all or is it 100% School pays for it?
**[00:04:05] Nate Stanley (City Engineer):** um so a lot of times in these studies... the fact that they escro the money for the feasibility study means that you wouldn't have any risk there.
**[00:04:45] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** another question... In light of the most recent um findings from from the administrative judge on our water situation does that change anything about this with pursuing a feasibility study on connecting to city water when we now have our answer about not having any additional water?
*(Note: Council Member Katrina Wrom was serving on the council at this time; she is often phonetically transcribed as "Beom" or "Vrom").*
**[00:05:08] Nate Stanley (City Engineer):** I don't think anything's subsequently changed the Oakdale Middle School is within the Musa is intended to be served with water and sewer at some point in time... they are within the Musa so the plan is for them to be connected at some point.
**[00:05:35] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** and are they um they're aware that doing this feasibility study is not a green light that they get water right?
**[00:05:40] Nate Stanley (City Engineer):** that's correct.
**[00:05:42] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** any further questions all right I'll entertain a motion on the item.
**[00:05:45] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** move to approve resolution number 2024-65 declaring adequacy of petition and ordering preparation of of a feasibility report for connection to public water and sanitary sewer for the Oakland Middle School... in the not to exceed amount of 21,000.
**[00:06:05] Nick Dragisich (Council Member):** support.
**[00:06:07] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** okay we have a motion in a second discussion.
**[00:06:10] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** I just want to say thank you to staff who I know you you've all been coordinating meetings now regularly... thank you for those efforts.
**[00:06:22] Nate Stanley (City Engineer):** and just for council information we are we continue to meet with the school district for the two projects within our city every two weeks.
**[00:06:33] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** I just probably will approve this or support it um but I I just want to put it out there again we we still have a water issue and we we've got information back from the court now that they're not going to change our appropriation... I as well state that for the record.
**[00:07:05] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** okay any other discussion hear none I'll call a question all those in favor of resolution 2024-65 please signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:07:15] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** resolution passes thank you next we have uh Lake Elmo Town Homes 8 final plat and PUD.
**[00:07:22] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** all right so I've got a presentation that will be up on the screen here and this is for uh Lake Elmo town homes by at home Apartments... [Details the 48-unit development, Parkland dedication fees of $160,000, and standard conditions].
**[00:10:45] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** any questions for Mr. Forst?
**[00:10:48] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** so to clarify on that step two of the Parkland dedication... was that when there was one parcel still before the split?
**[00:10:55] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** no we looked at the overall um purchase of of both Parcels that consist of this development.
**[00:11:15] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** would the uh applicant like to say anything don't have to if you don't want to.
**[00:11:20] Lyanna Stanc (At Home Apartments):** good evening mayor and council members my name is Lyanna Stanc with at home Apartments... feedback and collaboration is important it takes a good project and makes it a better project and that is what we have um before you tonight.
**[00:12:00] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** thank you very much with that I'll entertain a motion.
**[00:12:05] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** motion to adopt resolution 2024-066 approving the final plat and PUD requested by at home apartment LLC.
**[00:12:15] Nick Kragness (Council Member):** support.
**[00:12:17] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** um so this was the plat that we um we split out a while ago... I simply can't support development in the city when we still have a water issue that was just confirmed by um the administrative court so I will not be supporting this.
**[00:12:55] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** anyone else? I'll just say that you know appreciate the developer and the collaboration... I'm excited about this.
**[00:13:10] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** I would like to Echo that and also um in this case because we we are looking at apartments where our our per capita use is less than in other places... this to me this is advantageous for the community.
**[00:13:40] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** so just one follow-up comment... I'd like to to challenge this Council that if we continue to support new developments um that we revisit the um irrigation restrictions on the current residents in the city.
**[00:14:15] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** there's a motion on the floor it's been seconded uh I'm going to call the question... all those in favor please signify by saying I.
**[00:14:25] Council Members (Holtz, Hirn, Kragness, Cadenhead):** I.
**[00:14:26] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** Nay.
**[00:14:28] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** all right motion passes 4-1 and on the docket we have Bridgewater final plat and Bridgewater Bank zoning text Amendment Mr. Forst again.
**[00:14:35] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** all right so uh Bridgewater Village we have this presentation... [Explains zoning text amendment to reduce bank parking requirements from 1 space per 100 sq ft to 1 per 200 sq ft, and discusses Parkland dedication of $166,000 and utility easement grading].
**[00:18:40] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** Nathan um you mentioned 23 conditions and in our packet I've got 16 in the resolution am I what am I I'm missing?
**[00:18:50] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** mayor you are correct so I have printed out a revised resolution oh that has the conditions that's in front of you.
**[00:20:30] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** the applicant like to speak?
**[00:20:35] Matt Alexander (Northshore Development Partners):** thank you mayor members of council uh my name is Matt Alexander I'm with Northshore development Partners representing Bridgewater Bank... staff has done a great job working through a lot of these issues.
**[00:21:20] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** yeah sorry so a couple questions with the so actually for the zoning Amendment... can you just talk a little bit when you mentioned you used the word usable versus gross?
**[00:21:30] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** usable is what's currently in the code... the reason staff is at a minimum um preferring the gross is simply to to bring it in line with the other land use standards.
**[00:21:55] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** and then just um one more I think this one would be for the bank... you mentioned the 15 full-time employees... what does that look like?
**[00:22:05] Jerry Bach (Bridgewater Bank):** Jerry Bach with Bridgewater Bank... it's an estimate 15 full-time... but we think 30ish stalls should be perfect 60 is way too much would' rather have Green Space and Gardens and Lawns than tar.
**[00:22:25] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** thank you any other questions verying none I'll entertain a motion.
**[00:22:30] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** motion to adopt resolution 2024-067 approving the zoning text Amendment for parking for financial institutions.
**[00:22:40] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** second.
**[00:22:45] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** I'll just I guess I'll would just say thank you to for bringing this to our attention right it's one of those ones that probably would never have really notice unless you guys brought it to our attention.
**[00:23:00] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** I'd uh appreciate the owner and uh their Consultants working with staff... for one I'm I'm excited to have another uh business in town that is going to be a part of our community.
**[00:23:25] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** to reflect on that as well... I also appreciate we we heard from day one the water reuse would be a part of this.
**[00:23:45] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** all right with that I'll call the question... all those in favor say I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:24:00] Matt Hirn (Council Member):** motion to adopt ordinance 2024-12 amending City code section 154.0 65 relating to the required number of parking spaces for a financial institution.
**[00:24:10] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** second. all those in favor please signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:24:20] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** motion to adopt resolution 2024-068 approving the summary publication of ordinance 2024-12.
**[00:24:25] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** second... all in favor signify by saying I.
**(Council):** I.
**[00:24:40] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** Council reports any report?
**[00:24:43] Nick Dragisich (Council Member):** yes I just wanted to uh point out that during the past week I've had a several discussions with the engineer and Finance on questions I had... I wanted to just publicly thank them for answering my questions and being courteous.
**[00:25:05] Jeff Holtz (Council Member):** last week the 3M Settlement Group Priority One met... the eye opening reality... the settlement dollars will be gone far sooner than we thought... [Discusses 3M settlement funds and transition to consent agreement].
**[00:26:45] Katrina Wrom (Council Member):** I just uh want to recognize and congratulate um Ashley monterusso... on her promotion to city planner... apparently is doing an outstanding job so congratulations.
**[00:27:10] Clark Schroeder (Interim City Administrator):** this is uh this is my last meeting as your administrator so I want to thank the uh Council for inviting me to come back... I want to thank the staff for all their hard work... I will be here up to two weeks uh after Nicole starts on June 3rd.
**[00:28:15] Clarissa Hadler (Finance Director):** I just want to remind our residents and everyone that our summer hours will begin next week... they will be 8: to 4:30 Monday through Thursday and 8 to noon on Fridays.
**[00:28:28] Nathan Forst (City Planner/Consultant):** yeah just one report from me regarding the Old Village area study... there will be a survey that will be available for community members to take.
**[00:29:05] Dustin Kalis (Fire Chief):** next month we'll start actively recruiting paid-on-call firefighters... you should see some recruitment materials for for those positions.
**[00:29:25] Clarissa Hadler (Finance Director):** just continued reminders to sign up for PA our new Utility Billing portal.
**[00:29:35] Charles Cadenhead (Mayor):** all right with that we'll adjourn the meeting at 7:53.