[Music] Good afternoon everybody. Uh welcome to the city council session and I know we've got a particularly exciting one today because we have employee of the year awards as well as some recognition of those in the executive development program. So we're happy to have uh so many good public servants out there. But uh before we do that, I'm we're going to have the pledge of allegiance. And uh because uh councelor Silver is already standing, I will double task you with leading us in the pledgece to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Councelor Lambert Melton will be right back. He was having a computer issue and here he comes. Uh so I will hand it over to the city manager to uh take us through these uh employee awards. Good afternoon, mayor and council. The first round of um employee recognition goes to the recipients of the employees of the year. So, we have Charnell Jones here to announce the departmental awardees for this prestigious award. Good afternoon, Charle Jones, human resources. Um, it's our honor and a pleasure to stand before you today to announce all of our employee departmental um employees of the year and our citywide employee of the year. On May 22nd, we had the honor to um award them and recognize them at the employee recognition event which was a blast. Um we had the mayor to speak as well the mayor prom to attend. So as I call your name, I would just ask that you stand um for recognition. James Albert for information technology. [Applause] Valentino Alonszo Police Department. Gregory Baker, Engineering Services. Kendra Burgess, Raleigh Convention [Music] Center. Alexandra Ali Crawford, Parks, Recreation, Cultural Resources. Oscar Gomez, Transportation. Christina Leo's, Office of Strategy and Innovation. Jeffrey Neil, Raleigh Fire Department. Hannah Osborne, Budget and Management Services. Fiona Purscell, Emergency Communication [Music] Center. Brian Robinson, Planning and Development. Stacy Royer, finance. Raven Simpson, human resources. Annette Tucker, Communications. Martisa Webb, Raleigh Water. Mark Weldon, Housing and Neighborhoods. And these are your departmental employee of the year. I think you've skipped over Miller Spencer. I'm sorry, Miller Spencer. I'm sorry. Solidway Services. Thank you. And these are your departmental employee of the year. Congratulations. [Music] And from our departmental employee of the year, we do recognize and select one employee of the year and that was Gregory Baker who was [Applause] [Music] [Applause] named. There was that right photo op coming. Yes. Oh great. All right. Go ahead and stand up. done in five. [Music] And again, congratulations and thank you for all of your service and your hard work. Now, on to the executive development program. Yes. So, this program was started a couple years ago as part of our um attempt to be more intentional about succession planning and making sure that we get the next step of up and rising stars ready to take that next big professional step. So, we created the executive development program and this is our second cohort, third cohort. Um and so um at this time, Miss Jones will recognize those graduates from that program. I'll just ask you to stand and then come down to the front as well if you are present. Alexandra Gutierrez, Voli Fire Department, Andrew Bullet, human resources. Alisa Halley ShraMM, Planning and Development. Barbara Moront, Engineering Services. Brian Clark, Raleigh Convention and Performing Arts Complex. Bana Scurry, Equity and Inclusion. [Music] Bonn Walter, Planning and [Music] Development. Desay Blake, Parks, Recreation Cultural Resources. Diane Cooper, Raleigh Water, Emily Leapole, City Manager's Office. [Music] Jennifer Stevens, finance. Jonathan Ham, Raleigh Water. Martin Hogan, Raleigh Police Department. Miller Spencer, Soloway [Music] Services. Robert Parish, Emergency Communications. Sarah Heinson, Office of Special Events, and Shawn Driscoll, Transportation. present to you the 2425 cohort for the executive development program. Again, if you could come and take a photo op All right. Good. [Applause] Okay, thank you all and uh understand if many of you are going back to work. Uh we will continue our work with the consent agenda and I don't believe there was anything pulled. Move for approval. Okay, second. Okay, any other discussion on consent? If not, all in favor of the motion I. All oppose? Nay. All right. So, that passes. Uh, next, uh, we did not have, uh, a report of the planning commission, so we will move on to special items. Uh, first one, text change to zoning condition TCZ 325 on West Street. Binum Walter. Yes, ma'am. Bam Walter, planning and development. So, the text change zoning conditions. This is the third request of 2025 for a site not too far for from where we are now. This is the southwest corner of Southwest Street and West Target Street. And Miss Walters, I'll just say that councelor Branch is recusing himself because he sits on the board of the Raleigh Transit Authority and uh they are involved with the site. Of course. Thank you, Mayor. You need to go ahead and make a motion. Okay. So, I'll make a motion to recuse counselor branch. Second. Okay. Second. All in favor of the motion? I All opposed. Okay. Please uh continue. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. This is a special item, not a public hearing, but I know that the applicant and their client that the representation and client are here as well as folks from Go Triangle if the council does have questions. So, this would reszone or change zoning conditions for just under two acres uh changing the conditions on the downtown mixeduse uh 40story height district. The planning commission recommended approval by a split vote and you heard this as a first report from planning commission back in April and asked that it be brought back to you today as a special item. We're suggesting a public hearing date of July 1. Right questions? I was just going to move to set the public hearing July 1. Okay. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor of the motion I. All oppose, nay. Thank you. Okay. All right. Is there any other questions of Okay, Council Branch, welcome back. Uh, next we have the council contingency appropriation. Thank you all for coming in. All right. Good afternoon, mayor and council. I'm Michelle Mlette with the city manager's office. I am pretty routinely here because you all are doing a great job with your council contingency fund. So, just a reminder of the process. You all have a balance that starts before today's action and most council members have emptied their balance here because this is the last council action that you can take with this fiscal year funds. I do want to just remind you all you will have some money left over uh this year, which is fine. Goes over to fund balance. There's nothing wrong with that. But I do want to notify you all. You've been really good fiscal stewards if you look at all of the amount of organizations that you all have been able to help. So give yourself a round of applause for that. But today your action is quite a few. So we have Mayor Pro Tim Fort who has requested $2,000 to go to the women's center of Wake County. Council member Silver is requesting $3,000 to go to Active Adventure as well as recess games for $3,000. Council member Patton is going to empty her balance to go to Wake Smiles. Council member Jones is going to request uh her balance to go to Eliza Park Homeless Initiative. And then Council Member Branch's balance is going to go to Team Truth 919. This is your balance after. As I indicated before, you will leave some on the table for to go back to fund balance and that's okay because we'll start all over. Council member Silva, there was a third that I had suggested this week. It did not make the deadline clear. Okay. Unfortunately, yeah, but that's okay. Move for approval. Okay. All in favor? Uh I I post. Thank you all. All right. Thank you. Uh, next we have the special item on leaf collection and we've got Gregory Jenkins from Solid Waste Services. Not looking like Gregory Jenkins. Gregory is definitely from transportation. Thank you. Oh, yes. Said tag team if Mr. Yes. Yeah. Good afternoon, mayor, members of council. Again, Steve Hollyy with the Department of Transportation, and I'm back to talk about the proposed changes to the city's loose leaf collection program. Today, I will cover the work session that we had in April regarding proposed changes. We will have an explanation of the enhanced yard waste collection program, potential budgets, transition planning, and service gains. To recap the April work session, staff presented the challenges facing the existing program. We've had no significant changes which has led to increased time between pickups. Oftentimes, leaf piles block streets, parking, bike lanes, and storm drains for extended periods of time, and resident dissatisfaction with the program has continued to grow. During the work session, we proposed four options for potential changes to the program. Those included no changes to the existing program, enhancements to the existing program, privatization of the program, or the transition of the loose leaf program to an enhanced yard waste program. During the work session, council suggested a desire to change the loose leaf service. The current program generates significant negative feedback. The current program is not sustainable with the growth of our community. Transportation better serves our community providing its core functions and the consensus was to look at the enhanced yard waste option. During the work session, staff was asked to take a look at a a number of questions regarding the proposed frequency of an enhanced yard waste program, such as weekly versus bi-weekly service or seasonal versus year- round service. Our recommendation is to provide a year-round weekly service to provide residents with a consistent, reliable, and predictable service that they are requesting. During the work session, we were also asked to consider implementing an on-demand program. Staff does not recommend an ondemand program at this time due to the financial and other unknowns associated with creating a program that does not exist today. And finally, staff was asked to consult with Greensboro. As you will recall, Greensboro transitioned their loose leaf program to an enhanced yard wastist program in 2024. The feedback from Greensboro residents uh excuse me, the the feedback that Greensboro received from their residents was very little. However, Greensboro does have a need assistance program for their yard waste collection program. So, Raleigh solid waste staff will commit to creating a needs assistance program as part of a potential transition to the enhanced yard waist service. So, let's take a closer look at the specifics for an enhanced yard wastist program. Again, we are recommending a year-round program. Today's yard waste program provides residential service every other week. We are proposing to move to a residential service that is provided every week. Today, uh, solid way staff uses 10 rear load trucks to provide bi-weekly service, and we're proposing adding five additional trucks to provide the weekly service. Today, solid waste uses 10 crews of full-time employees with three employees per crew. And we are suggesting adding an additional five crews with three employees, two three employees per crew or a total of 15 new staff to provide the weekly yard waste service. So, how much will will we be able to collect every week? You may remember this graphic from the April work session, but as a reminder, the leaf pile on the right is the total volume of the 95gallon cart and the 15 biodegradable bag shown on the left, or an estimated 2 to three cubic yards that can be collected every [Music] week. What is the cost of this proposed service enhancement? Providing a consistent, reliable, and predictable service will require a new investment starting in fiscal year 2027. Some important dates to consider are the fiscal year 2027 budget kickoff, which will happen in November 2025, and our need to have this enhanced program operational in the fall of 2026. We anticipate that savings from the loose leaf collection program can be applied to to the enhanced yard waste program to minimize new budget needs in fiscal year 2027. So what are some of the needs versus some of the funds that we think when we can reallocate? So transportation currently has the budget for four replacement leaf trucks that were funded in fiscal year 2026. as well as additional replacements projected for fiscal year 2027. We have not placed the order for these trucks as of today and have the ability to reallocate these equipment funds to procure the five solid waste trucks that will be needed for the solid waste enhanced yard waste program if a decision is made quickly. We also anticipate that the savings from temporary staff, leaf equipment maintenance, fuel, and tipping fees can be moved from the transportation budgets to the solid waste budget to help fund the 15 new employees and the operating costs associated with the transition for the first few years. Ultimately, the solid waste fee will be adjusted to cover the co full cost of the enhanced program. So, what is our suggested budget? 1.75 million will be the annual need to fully fund the service. As talked about in the previous slide, we can reallocate approximately $350,000 a year in existing equipment funds if we decide to move forward the purchase of the five solid waste trucks that are needed. We also anticipate $675,000 available in operation savings from transportation that can be applied to the enhanced program. Therefore, in fiscal year 2027, $725,000 will be needed to provide the year-round enhanced weekly service. So, what does the transition plan look like? In summer 2025, we will need to order the five solid waste trucks with the reallocated funds as suggested as there is approximately 18month lead time to get those pieces of equipment. In fall 2025, we would begin our communication plan on the transition of the loose leaf program to an enhanced yard waist program in fall 2026. This gives residents a full year of advanced notice on on the change. Between fall 2025 and winter 2026, we will complete the final loose leaf collection program with two passes and a schedule similar to that of the 2024 2025 leaf season. Also, during the fall 2025 through winter 2026 leaf season, we will start encouraging residents to use the existing bi-weekly service and can offer up to five free bio biodegradable bags upon request. So, the weekly enhanced yard waste would be implemented in the fall of 2026 and collection would go from bi-weekly, as it is today, to weekly. This service would be would be provided year round and we would collect one cart and 15 to 20 biodegradable bags and residents can also request a second yard wastist cart for a small fee. What are the benefits of the enhanced yard wastist program? We'll start with neighborhood safety. Streets, bike lanes, and sidewalks will remain clear of leaf pile obstructions, increasing safety. Less leaves and storm drains reduces flooding risk. Residents will gain a yearround, weekly yard service that is consistent, predictable and reliable. Additionally, residents will see an increase in transportation maintenance work as 48 transportation staff will no longer be flexed to the seasonal loose leaf collection program. During the April work session, we talked about the potential transportation service gains and wanted to recap recap those potential gains again today. We anticipate a 25 to 30% increase in sidewalk repair and replacement, a 15 to 20% increase in street pavement patching, a 10 to 15% increase in storm water pipe maintenance, increased landscaping, including more frequent litter removal, mulching, and pruning within our city rightways. Council approval is needed to start the transition of the loose leaf collection program to an enhanced yard waste program. Some important things to consider are delays in approval may result in implementation being moved out at least 12 months to the fall of 2027 and we will likely lose our ability to reallocate the existing equipment funding that we spoke about earlier. It's also worth noting that no action or no approval will result in a default back to the existing loose leaf program that is provided by transportation. With that, I thank you for your time and attention today and we are certainly here and ready to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you, Mr. Holly. Do you have questions? Uh, councelor Harrison. Yeah, thank you for this information. Um, just a quick question. Can folks already get a second yard waste cart if they would like to? Is that available? My understanding is yes. And I'm going to make sure that Gregory agrees. I got the thumb up. That was my thought. What is the cost of that? It's about $50 or $60 a year if I'm not mistaken. $50. A little bit less. Okay. A little less than $50 a year. Okay. And if folks need a second yard waste cart, how did they how do they get that? I was able to navigate uh to a form to request that on the city website when I was researching it. So, I think it's a pretty easy process if you if you go to the solidway services department on ralec.gov. And I think there's a section that uh specifically has a form for requesting that extra card. Okay. It's just something I want to note because I know some folks, including myself, struggle to put leaves in those bags. And so, if you need a second bin and have space for it, that's a good opportunity. Um I really appreciate the presentation overall. Um, and I like hearing about the opportunities for using our transportation staff on sidewalk repair, street pavement patching, sweeping, storm water pipe maintenance landscaping mulching. Those are all things that I think we see not happening at the level of service that we'd like to. So, that is a huge gain in my opinion on this. Council Branch and then Jones. First of all, thank you for the presentation. Thank you all all the staff for the work here. Um I think you really you hit a lot of checkpoints. You know it's weekly um the needs assistance that's going to be provided the option for those to get a second can. Again like you said consistency is is key and reliable service. So I want to thank you for all of that. I do have one equipment question. I know we ordered new trucks based on our current program and they're not excuse me and they're not near end of life yet. what's going to happen with that equipment. So, the discussions that uh Gregory and I had, Solid Waste and Transportation had is that the two or three of the newer automated trucks we have may somehow be incorporated into the needs assistance program. And that may be uh what we do with the newer pieces of equipment. As far as our flatbed trucks and some of the others, they can be used for multiple things besides leaf collection. So, they'll be continued to use for these other things and the increases in the service level that we discussed. Okay. Well, definitely thank you and at the appropriate time I definitely will support this. I'll echo. Thank you so much for all your work. Um, I have questions on the education portion of it because I think this has to go in tandem with how we educate the community, not just in the implementation, but in how we are ongoing and showing them here, here's what else we can do with the leave. So, I I would be interested in learning more about how that ongoing education would would continue with the city. Is it through the communications department? would that be coming from solid waste services? And then my second question is um um so when I looked at the heat map, mine and district E and district A had the heaviest uh portions of those who need that service and from what I'm hearing from residents who are older who uh cannot physically do that. How would that needsbased uh assessment work and what would be the requirements to be able to use that? Uh, yes. Thank you for both questions. And it looks like I have two friends coming to help. So, I'm going to start with Robin since your first question was on communications. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, good afternoon. Robin Delel, communications director for the city. Uh, Council Member Jones, thank you for an opportunity to talk about what we're thinking on the communication side of things. We'll start this year just kind of generally talking about, hey, this is your last year to get your leaves picked up at the curb. But if you'd like to start to try using bags or your cart, this is a way to start it. We'll start to kind of talk about some of the uh benefits of doing this for the environment, for our storm drains, different safety, um those kind of things. And as we gear up for uh enhancing yard waste in the fall of the following year, we will um do do like a number of different things from social media to traditional media to postcards for people who are not aren't always looking at media. And I think in these cases, some of the places where we would have the most hold out on the change, we would try to do a little bit of additional marketing so that those people understood why we were making the change and then how to uh better navigate uh going forward. I think that uh social media gives us a uh really good opportunity to hear what people are thinking and to respond almost directly to an individual concern. So we would make sure that we were paying attention on those channels too. Great. And that would I guess my followup to that is that it's not just this year, next year, would we be able to fold that into ongoing communications throughout from in perpetuity? So that that and and yes, absolutely. the um communications plan that's like open in draft mode on my desk is about a three-year plan just to kind of keep talking about it. And as we come around next year, remember you can still do this. I think the uh yard waste collection being weekly is another thing that we would tell the benefits of because a lot of times people in the spring clean out their gardens and have a lot of waste to and then they don't have to wait every other week to to dispose of that. So, a couple of good looking for the positives uh and emphasizing those as we go through the process. And then lastly, I would just um ask that you if there are other organizations that can help with that, so it's not just on you. You know, I know that you can be the the person the group that pushes out the information, but there are so many groups that we have that work on this same topic that are um um from our growth and natural resources committee to, you know, all all of our SWAT committees and how we utilize the nonprofits and the and the for-profit industries to help push out that message. I'm not sure what that looks like, but if you're probably better and I forgot to mention our community engagement department as well, which would be excellent at making sure we got to the right stakeholders within neighborhoods who could also help us get that word out. So, great ideas. Yes, absolutely. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. And councelor, yeah, did you have a second question to that to Chris? Uh, councelor Jones, was there something else? There was just that second I think the needs assessment because I had asked what the what the requirements would be. Hello, Gregory Jinx is the real Gregory Jinx II. Um, so um, uh, as far in the assistance plan goes, we've already, we have a program right now where we'll go behind people's homes and help them, uh, collect their garbage and yard waste and recycling currently. And what we would simply do is make sure that when we fold in the yard waste that we have some kind of program that incorporates some type of vacuum truck where they don't they can still blow it to the curb and then we would collect them at that point. I guess my question is what would that stipulation be because I think uh I'm not sure if it's that exact program that you're talking about, but as I've worked with residents, there's a medical reason that they would qualify for that, but if um I have a 78-year-old uh who doesn't have the medical qual but cannot physically do that, how would they register for that? So, we'll be looking to modify that program to fit within yardway. So, it's just not medical. But I also have had conversations with Michael Moore about the fact that we have multiple assistance programs throughout the city and we probably need to lean on all of those to make sure that we don't leave anybody out in that in those programs. So that that is yet to be determined based off of council's desire to have this program transition. We will jump both feet in. Okay. Yeah. I would just like as we continue that just like to learn more about that so I can ease the minds of those in my district who who may not qualify for the current program. All right. Thank you. You're welcome, Councelor Silver. I don't have a question. I have a comment. I want to commend Solid Waste Service. After our work session, I know all of us received a lot of email about this topic and to the citizens, yes, we are aware we're the city of Oaks. uh and I'm just gratified that you found a way at really a reasonable cost uh to enhance the service and address concerns from both sides of the issue that we heard from. Uh I also am very pleased because this was my concern uh about those 48 transportation personnel going back to doing the work they were hired to do and not pulled away for leaf uh for the leaf collection. So I am gratified to see that as well. So, I'll be very delighted to help move this forward and again at a very marginal cost. Of course, we're all concerned about the future of tariffs and how this will affect the purchasing of some of these trucks. So, certainly keep us posted. It's not just an issue here for Raleigh, but it's across the planet uh and especially in the United States. So that's the one concern and uh don't know how quickly you can move after this budget is adopted to figure out how you can get first in line to start to order those trucks. I know it's a 18month lead, but just very concerned about the pricing knowing the uncertainty of the market. Uh so with that, I just want to say job well done and I'm very pleased to help move this forward. Councelor Pat. Yeah, handful of comments and a few questions. Um, one I so I also have questions about the need assistance program. Also wanted to which have been largely answered. Um, also wanted to ask if you like you've presented us an option for year round weekly bin collection and I wonder if it was considered to do weekly only during the season and what were the pros and cons like if that was considered why not why was that not the choice? Yeah, good question. So we did discuss uh seasonal and it would require I think one of two things. So uh we would have to pull staff from transportation to help solid waste during that seasonal period which would negate some of those service gains in transportation. Um or we would have full-time staff in solid waste maybe that wouldn't uh we would have to find different opportunities for them in the in the offseason so to speak. So, I guess it' be one side or the other or some combination of temporary staff and logistically it didn't seem like a a reasonable or the best option. Got it. Okay. Helpful. And um do you have that that heat map that was distributed to us? Is that in the deck any It is not. I have it in paper, but So, uh maybe we can get it put in the manager memo this week. Um, I think it'd be helpful for the public to see that there it it's safe to say there is not an e equal distribution or even or equitable or any version of that word distribution of how this service is utilized. It is certainly not utilized by all residents or in all regions of the the city. Is it safe to characterize that that way in your view? Yes, we we put those maps together again at your request and and it it did tell a story uh to to your point and councelor Jones's point about some of the very specific high use areas, but but definitely not as widespread as I would have thought. Yeah, I thought it was really helpful to show. Um and then one last just fact check on my end. Is it right that in this budget that we're currently in, the one we're finishing, we're spending $900,000 just to store the leaves? Right. So, in last year's budget, uh we adopted a $800,000 budget addition for transportation. Uh that was to cover tipping fees associated with both private and then this year uh after the legacy pile was able to be removed. We were able to start bringing our leaves back to to the yardway center again. However, there is a cost associated obviously so that that legacy pile isn't created again and they're able to use those funds to process what comes in and what goes out. So to answer your question, yes, we we were able to get that additional $800,000 last year to cover those costs. All right. So then with all that said, I I'm very happy to um support and move this plan forward. I appreciate the long runway. I appreciate that residents will get one more year of of the status quo. also want to like highlight that over the course of my time on council. It's not that that we've only gotten emails recently because we've brought this up, but I would put this in the top three complaints I get I've gotten in my inbox from day one on council. So, people have opinions about it right now, but they sure have opinions about it during the season. And when in your initial presentation when you said pe the council's been considering this and and receiving complaints about it since the 80s, it was like, wow, 40 years of status quo is really like not sustainable. And as an aside, I was reading the budget this weekend. I read this to prepare, you know, preparing for this meeting. I was also reading the budget and our mission statements in there. And it says to build a stable platform of evolving services for our community through which we champion positive and sustainable growth. And I just think we have to admit that like status quo does not does not accomplish it does not speak to that mission. Um, I also think we should u make sure that we're activating our nonprofit community who appears to stand ready to help residents like mulch their leaves, learn what they can do with their leaves as an alternative and also work in like a mutual aid capacity to to help process move leaves for residents who really need that help. And we just launched the tool share program through code enforcement. And I think we should make sure we have like ample mulches in there for people to borrow as they need. So at the appropriate time happy to happy to support the effort. Any comments down here? Just one and oh really two. So on your transition details you got collection of one cart and 15 to 20 bgradable bags. That's per trip that they would be picking up. Sounds ambitious. So, um, and I guess, um, maybe monitoring some of the, um, older communities, particularly in southoutheast Raleigh where they've got the, um, like smaller communities and three carts out may be a little bit challenging at one time. So, that turns out to be an issue. I think maybe coming back and letting us know or are trying to figure out a way to maneuver through some of those communities because the streets are kind of small. Um, so that could really be a lot having three trucks moving through those communities on one particular day, one particular pickup. So, just kind of wanted to make sure we were kind of keeping tabs on that. Did you have any comments? Okay, I'll weigh in. First, I will say I got to tour the solid waste facility and spend time, but I saw the leaf pile um uh in person. also saw the recycling and um mulch and and all the incredible work going on out there. So, I was appreciative of that. I also think this is a very thoughtful proposal. I will say um I had suggested something that I understand would be a more complex evolution of the system which was to do one pickup go to the on demand shift this to just a seasonal and um I understand why you didn't go that way but um I would still I'm still not ready to depart from this service so I'll probably be alone uh no but do appreciate that this is a very thoughtful proposal any Other uh I think we had people who wanted to make a motion. I move to approve the recommended actions from council. Second staff. Okay. All in favor of the motion? I I. All oppose. Nay. All right. Thank you. Report and recommendation of the city manager. Good afternoon, mayor and council. And you guys don't know how big that action was. I promise you the hundreds of emails y'all get. we get that and phone calls. So, and it has been a 20, 30 year saga with this. So, I do think we're going to work diligently to try to bring a more efficient service that people will appreciate and will still meet the needs of our public. We are fully committed to that. only one item today in my report and that is you will recall back in early part of the year we brought forward to you a contract amendment for the Raleigh um convention center and Red Hat lo relocation project of the guaranteed maximum price that was GMP1. Today we have Carrie Painter here from the convention center and she will be talking to you a little bit about GMP2 and how that um gets us ready and positions us for the next phase of the work. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council, Carrie Painter, Raleigh Convention and Performing Arts Complex. So, we just uh recapped a little bit, but I'll do that one more time from one step further back. The 23rd interlocal agreement uh granted us the funds for this relocation and expansion and we're excitedly continuing to move this along. On April 16th, we agreed on our Seamar being Clancy and Tha Scansa and DA Everett uh partnership to provide the construction. And as a city manager just mentioned on March 4th, we were here with GMP1 for utilities. Just a reminder of uh what we are all working towards building. These are the renderings of the Red Hat as it is now. Um, we're very excited as we're in the concert season to be thinking about the future. Little more views. We realize these are bathrooms and for most people that's not exciting until you run an amp and your bathrooms are trailers and portaotties. So, this is a really big improvement we're excited to share. So, the road closed on April 14th. This was anticipation of our first concert to help all those concert goers find their new path of travel. Um, it has continued to flow well. We are no longer closing Lenor for any concerts and so that has worked great. Um, and we have begun the utility work that was in GMP1. As you can see, GMP2 allows us to bid in a more um economical way by doing greater amounts for the same things. So we will be working on earthn work, shoring, concrete, steel, remaining packages. Um our goal is really to circumvent all delays that we can, the inflation, the new costs, the tariffs, any pauses. If we can bid, for example, all steel at one time, we can move it along more effectively, we hope, and try to keep the prices within budgets. Again, we will be ready with the new amp that you just saw images of in the 27 season. We did receive a question yesterday about what's happening around us. Um, as promised, the city will be providing a much more um extensive quarterly update to you, but just today so that you can have a talking point or two. You will get the bigger one before you go on break. So, Heritage Park phase one has applied for tax credits. They are pending reszoning petitions and ongoing interchange alternatives. the Shavas Dick Strowway. I'm excited to say a consultant was selected and they are in scope and fee negotiations. Um, and so they're studying Dicks Park to South McDow at this point. West Street Extension is still working on funding and coordination with our neighbors Heritage Park. And then the McDow Dawson slip lane, which I know is a uh top of- mind question always. 65% of the design has been submitted to NC DOT. We are waiting for responses back. so that we can integrate that into the designs and keep moving it forward. Again, you will get a more extensive update uh before you go on vacation. But we hope this touched it a little bit for you. So, with that, I am here to ask for the city manager's uh permission for the city manager to execute GMP2 and to allow us to move some of the funds just for some administrative cleanup into one fund as we move forward. Okay. Do we have questions for Miss Painter? just going to make a motion. Uh first, uh Miss Painter, I do appreciate all the surrounding projects. It's very helpful, uh for the public to know as well as council what is happening around it. As you probably know, I will not be supporting this for reasons I've stated before, my concern about the relocation or the closure of South Street. But again, I appreciate the fact that so much is going on and moving forward. uh and that you're giving full thought to how all those will intersect around an area that is uh uh quite complex and needs some coordinated thinking to make sure it all fits together. Thank you. Could you go back to the previous slide just with all the context and did you have a question? You want to go ahead? I Yeah, just one quick one. It's not really a question for you to answer right now. I appreciate I appreciate what's offered here and that you're telling us a further further debrief will come later. For that one, I just wanted to signal a question I'll have at that time is um interest and if there's any thought the reconnecting communities grant has changed in recent months. Reconnecting communities grant I will make sure we note it and come back to the questions list for Absolutely. Well, that we didn't get it. We didn't get it. Oh, we did not unfortunately. I believe the whole program is being terminated. Yeah. I mean, my guess is it will never even had we gotten it, I don't know whether we would have actually gotten the cash, but I think that's a fair assessment. That was not the answer I wanted to bring you back. I'm sorry. Um, no, I appreciate this, too. And then just curious on the Heritage Park, that interchange obviously has a lot of real estate and could dramatically change their petition. Can they I mean can they move forward with that sort of flexibility of not knowing whether they can do up to the 900 units or having to go with that interchange? I'm gonna phone a transportation friend to help. Oh, here we go. And since transportation I'm also just the timing. I understand the NC DOT piece too. Just curious if we have any idea when you think those so we might get feedback. I'll I'll address Heritage Park and then let transportation uh address the slip lane and any other permitting issues. So, we are continuing to examine with our partners at the housing authority different alternatives for this interchange. Um, as you uh are aware, our comprehensive plan calls for more street connectivity through this big block. Um, that was eliminated uh back in the urban renewal days when this area was subject to redevelopment and this interchange which was originally a plan from 1969, not open for business till 1997, created this huge barrier on the south side of downtown that also encourages it has a geometry of a high-speed roadway even though it brings you right into the downtown grid. So transportation um department and planning and development have been working very diligently to try to rectify all these problems and free up land for Heritage Park. It is complicated because underneath this this clover leaf, this partial clover leaf is some utility infrastructure that to really liberate the land would have to be relocated and one of those things is a 6-ft diameter storm water pipe which may be many millions of dollars to to move. and we're still examining as to whether or not the land that's liberated by that move is worth the money it would take to achieve it. And that that definitely impacts the shape of the um interchange going forward. So, we know that we're hoping with the redevelopment of Heritage Park to get a much better uh condition, the existing condition, how much better I think is going to be somewhat constrained by some of those practicalities. We've been doing ongoing um coordination with NC DOT. We're currently um testing and studying a new concept that we think will be less expensive. We'll free up some land uh maybe not as good as what we originally had hoped to achieve, but much more cost-effective and preliminary indications from both the housing authority and for NC DOT as they think is a potentially a workable solution. But we continue to look at the best possible alternatives for that. Um, in terms of the resoning case, that is an issue that's uh that's um impacting the timing because they can only resone the land that they that they own, which is not all of it. Um, it's a little bit hard to see here, but let me see if I can do the highlight. This here and this here are city owned. And then, of course, all of this is NC DOT right away. Um, so if we want to, uh, we would actually have to participate in the zoning case to bring in these little city parcels into it, which we have not done to date. Um, if the right if this rightway shrinks, that could also be part of the zoning case. So, we're continue to look at the timing. The fortunate thing is that phase one doesn't require a zoning change and so that's able to move forward under the existing zoning. Thank you. Good afternoon, Paul transportation. So just related to I kind of call it the Dawson Mcdow connector the slip lane. So uh as uh Carrie had mentioned so we're at 65% so likely just kind of knowing the timing. My goal would be probably to have final plans by the end of the year. Just know we're at 65%. Just kind of understand when when it goes to DOT it goes to multiple units. So you got traffic, you got hydraulics, you got roadway, you got congestion management. So, our district um engineer, which is who we typically deal with, they're kind of the facilitator and then they push these plans out to different units at DOT. So, my goal would be to have something here by the end of the year on that. Thank you. Okay. All right. Um going back to I guess we can post to the other one so we have the language uh with now green squiggles. I don't know how to keep drawing. I was just going to um move to authorize the recommended action pursuant to our agenda. Does that work? Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any other discussion on this? If not, all in favor? I I I. All opposed. Okay. Okay. One. Nay. That concludes my report today. All right. Uh next we have matters scheduled for public hearing. And let me pull out my information. We have the first item, petition AX0625, which is 6325 Rock Corey Road in District C. And uh we have Mr. Golden. Thank you. Good afternoon, honorable mayor, members of the council. Um, this item AX625 at 6325 Rock Corey Road was continued from the May 20th uh public hearing pending more information on the um on the site plan and on the subdivision of this property. So that information is included in the staff report and information has also been added to this presentation. Uh the applicants are also here uh and can have signed up to speak. So just for a a quick quick recap on this property, it's 9.35 acres. Uh portion of this is going to be used for self storage. There's another portion of the property that has been subdivided on this city or city water and sew are adjacent. There are two plans in review on this uh site plan and a subdivision plan, which I'll go over that in just a moment. This property is located in an unincorporated county island, meaning that it is in an area that's completely surrounded by the city limits of Raleigh. Um, and it is outside those standard NFPA response times. Uh, you can see the parcel here, the site location. Uh, you can see that's wedged in there to the subdivision to the north just off of Rock Corey Road, the intersection of Whitfield Road. And, uh, at the time of this photo, this aerial, it is uh, there it is a wooded property. So you can see the site location zoom out. You can see that it's about 1,200 feet roughly north of the Garner border um and surrounded by uh many different areas where you have city limits and you can see the unincorporated county island to the north. Um you can see that water and sewer are to the property through the subdivision and uh the water lines being blue, sewer lines being green. So it can be served. Um the current zoning on that is CX4 conditional use that was reszoned back in 2022. Um so you can see the future land use on that as well. Uh community mixed use. So the zoning is uh uh conforms to that. Um the site plan and topography and flood plane. No flood planes identified on that area. U you can see the site on the street view where it is wooded when that was that where that's been taken. Um and this is the additional information that's also added in the staff report. So, this shows uh the property owners are looking to construct a self- storage uh facility of about uh 180,000 square ft on that northern lot of the portion of this parcel. It's a multi-story building. Um you can see between that uh to the south there's a tree conservation area. And if we go a little further south on that, because it is a long lot, we've broken it down into two um into two photos so it's easier to see. That gray area is tree conservation area and then it's split up to uh four lots just to the south for uh future commercial development. Um so and there you can see the response times. So that's on the RFD service review. Um that concludes my presentation on this. More than happy to answer any questions if you have them. The applicant is also here to answer any questions. Great. Thank you. Do you have questions? Okay. Yep. Not for you. Um, confirming the fire master plan is still on track to come to us the 17th. Is that right? We have pushed that back to July 1. I was going to mention that later at the end of the meeting. Yes. But really working on it so it will address some of the concerns that are in the agenda items today. Yes. Okay. So, I'll go ahead and open the public hearing uh for AX0625. And we have two folks here, Luke Perkins and Devin Brazil. Hello, Devin Basil. We're we're here to answer questions that Okay. All right. So, uh, councelor Patton had questions and council branch had questions. Yeah. I just had a question. I noticed this talks about self storage, but you have other partals that you're looking to do. Can you give us an idea of the development plan around this? We we don't currently have a plan that's been submitted, but the contemplation here on the corner is going to be a a commercial kind of retail type use. Okay. So, if I'm looking at this image, I see the four little blocks. Which one is the self storage one? Self storage is to the north. So, it's the it's the lot that's isolated all the way to the north there. Okay. Right. All right. Right here. That's that's a subdivision. Actually, if we go back, you can see it. There it is. That's okay. Yeah. They're okay. Thank you. Yeah, council. That was my only one. Okay. Anybody else? Yeah. Well, go ahead. I don't have a question. You can close. Okay. Closing the hearing. Uh do we have uh an action? So, I'll say um first of all, thank you for some development in this area. Um I will be completely honest. I don't love self storage. Um, I think a lot of times they're great financial tools that stay forever and nothing else happens. At the same time, I know the growth in this area, in this community. Um, I've seen it. I see what's happening in this area, um, and everything. And you already have the right to do it. You're just asking me connected to water and sewer. Um, so with that being the case, um, I move for approval. Second. Okay. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor of the motion I I. All opposed. Uh, one nay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next, we have uh resoning Z3924 Honeyut Road. Uh, Hannah Raal. Good afternoon, Mayor, Council, Hannah Recal, Planning and Development. So, this is resoning Z3924, 8415 Honeyut Road. This hearing was opened on May 6th and you continued it to today. Um the conditions have been revised since then and I will go over those now. Um just a reminder on how the site is situated uh has frontage on the east on Honeyut Road and then Chatter Drive um ends uh right at the property there. So the revisions to the conditions um cover uh access easement and additional storm water control. Uh specifically condition seven uh which requires that 10 foot wide path from Chatter Drive to the internal pedestrian network would now be required to have a one or more easement that um uh aligns with the following. Uh so it would be a a bike pedestrian access, emergency service, vehicle service access up to uh 16 ft in width. There'd be uh two at least two collapsible ballards to help prevent vehicular access and it would be um uh recorded on that first subdivision plat. and condition eight which is um specifies the pedestrian facility internal to the site. One of which is an option for a multi-use path. Um language has been added that uh there would be an easement for public access beyond the right of way there too. And then there's a series of new conditions which pertain to storm water control. So um the addition of the 25-year storm event to um requirements in the UDO for managing peak uh peak flow rate pre uh post-development and pre-development um some post construction practices that would be required including um use of spreaders or primary treatment uh SEM at all point discharges and um using sod rather than seeding. uh in construction of the dam. Another condition that would uh install double row silt fencing um prior to any grading or construction and then um the addition of the uh 25-year storm event to a requirement in the UDO uh for um management uh denuted areas and then finally a condition uh describing construction standards um for sediment basins. So that um covers the uh revised conditions. Um just as a reminder, none of these really affect the overall buildout uh of the sites. Um and I'll I can end there and happy to answer any questions you have. Okay. Questions for Mr. Recal? Okay. If not, we would uh open the hearing. Uh and this is again for Z3924 Honeyut Road. And we have three folks signed up. Uh, Worth Mills is coming down. Good afternoon, Madame Mayor, members of council. Worth Mills with Longleaf Law Partners filling in for Michael Burch. I'll keep my comments brief because I think there are some uh folks from the Bentree HOA who would like to speak as well. But just to provide an update and summarize, we've updated our application with zoning conditions that relate to the pedestrian connectivity to Chatter Drive and enhanced our storm water control measures. Um the Bentree HOA and SMAC storm water management advisory commission both uh are supportive of those changes and the case is consistent with the Falls Lake policy guidance on uh density. Um, happy to answer any questions, but I I would like to reserve the rest of the time for the Benry HOA. Okay. Do y'all want to come on down? I think I signed up correctly. My name is Alex Bloom. I'm the president of the Bentree HOA. We're a community of 189 homes that this property. Um, many of those homes, probably a dozen or more, are directly adjacent to the property. When we were first received notice of the resoning, uh there was quite an uproar in the community, as you might imagine, a lot of anxiety and concern um about what might come in that property. And so the first thing we did as a community was we really rallied to understand and to get directly involved. So at the very first community meeting at Abbottz Creek, we had probably about a hundred people from the neighborhood uh attend that meeting. We had follow-up meetings in our own neighborhood to discuss and to meet with the developer uh with over a third of the community participating in those. So, so we were highly engaged in this process and I think there was some concern as we went through the process. Our concerns um although there are still many throughout the community are sort of distilled down into two primary ones which is no cut through of Chatter. This was really important to us. Our roads are narrow with no curbs. um you can hardly pass. Uh two cars can't pass, especially if there's another one parked on the side of the street. And so no cut through of the Chatter Road was uh paramount for us. The second concern was the storm water runoff. Um and so those were the two main things that we have been focused on working with the developer on and getting conditions and getting uh into the documentation. And so the developer has been very cooperative, very engaged, very collaborative. um has come out and met with the community on many occasions outside of the standard protocols. Um they've met one-on-one with neighbors who abut the property to discuss things like landscaping and look and feel and things like that. So we've uh been appreciative of their cooperation and their collaboration in this process. Um and obviously most neighbors or anyone who's in this position would prefer that no development happen, but given the land was for sale, it's going to get developed. And so um we support the resoning with the conditions of no cut through of Chatter and the water the additional water runoff that was described uh earlier here. Uh finally, I'd like to share though that we we are not we don't really like and are not supportive of the additional emergency vehicle language, which might sound odd, but we would prefer that that language I know that was uh recommended or suggested by the city. Um, we would have preferred that not be in there. It feels like it's a little bit of a slippery slope um in Pandora's box that could lead to some additional traffic, but um we we would have preferred that not be in there. Um we did have a community meeting last week and we took a series of polls um of the people who attended um 100% were supportive of the uh reasonzoning with those conditions specifically the Chatterson and the no and the water runoff conditions. Um, and 100% we're also uh would have preferred not to have the emergency vehicle language added as it as it was viewed as a little bit of a slippery slope. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, uh, any questions for Worth Mills, Alex Bloom? We also had Michael Burge down here, but um, okay. So, I'll go ahead and close the hearing. Yes, questions for uh Mr. Bloom and everyone at the HOA. I did go to visit uh this summer. Um our concern, I think I shared it with a couple of my colleagues, is certain subdivisions will access, this is for first responders, an ambulance, police or fire. Uh wanted to make sure there was an opportunity with limited access that if life is in danger, that that easement would only be used for emergency access. It was not our intent with the Ballards for it to be a slippery slope of others using it and limited just for that purpose. So I hope the residents of the HOA understand we are thinking of them. There are cases we understand where there's limited access. I remember when I was plan director there was a subdivision in Kerry. One way in one way out a tree fell a man died of a heart attack because first responders could not get in in time to save that gentleman. And so we always look to ensure that public safety is first and foremost. And so that is when we had asked the applicant to include we recognize no vehicular traffic but for emergency access it is so critical. Uh but other than that I'm I'm very pleased uh that the applicant work with the neighborhood and I'm very pleased uh that the conditions seem to be uh acceptable uh to the neighbor. So I'll see if my colleagues have question but uh when the time comes I'll be ready to make a motion. Okay. Any other questions? All right. Might want to go ahead and make your motion. All right. I move to adopt the proposed consistency statement dated June 3rd, 2025 contained in the agenda materials and to approve the zoning amendment with the adoption and effective dates described in the agenda item under recommended action. And this approval is also deemed an amendment to the future land use map to the extent described in the adopted consistency statement. Second. All right. Um, all in favor of the motion, I I. All opposed. All right. So, that was unanimous. Thank you. Thanks to the neighbors for coming down. All right. Next, we have uh public hearing on uh reasonzoning Z4724 Barwell Road. And we have Binham Walter. Yes, ma'am. You had opened this hearing previously. Yep. This is a continuation. Uh so there's been a revision to the some revisions to the request since you saw this last and I just want to highlight those for you. So most of the conditions the first four conditions have not changed nor has the fifth uh or the or the sixth but the eighth condition has. So they've added some storm water additional storm water controls here. So code requires two and 10ear control. They've added the 25-year control. Uh and then uh one more here. Uh some additional silt fencing requirement for grading within 200 ft of the new river. What questions can I answer for you before you hear from the applicant? Yeah. Questions for staff? I do have a question for staff, but more line for transportation. um the property that um abuts this that the city owns. Um I mentioned at the last meeting, is there any conversation of how we can work to deal with the curb where this entrance to the subdivision would be? So, as I recall on your previous consent agenda, there was an item around property acquisition, right, to help improve visibility at the curb specifically for that purpose. Right. So, I wanted it says to help improve. So I was wonder if anyone could speak to what that what that means. Oh the details of that. We will need a transportation friend for that. Hello Carter Robertson with transportation. I could let the applicant speak to where this is in the process, but pretty much what that easement would do would uh clear out any vegetation to make sure that you can adequately see around that curve. Is that what you were asking? What the So I that issue with this curve is bigger than just this one project. So I'll talk to you all more about it offline. Okay. Um if there's no further questions, we did have uh you know time remaining on the previously open. Thank you. Um so we have Worth Mills again and Peter Kawasen and then we do have one person signed up for opposition. Good afternoon again, Madame Mayor, members of council. Worth Mills here on behalf of the applicant. Um as Binham summarized um we did have conversations with the partners for environmental justice group uh and the news uh riverkeeper. The result of that are the two new conditions that you see here today. Uh commitment to detain and treat for the 25-y year 24-hour storm event as well as a requirement to install double cell fencing within uh if there's any grading within 200 ft of the Noose River repairarium buffer. So what we're trying to do here is to uh mitigate any impacts to Walnut Creek both during construction and after construction. Um and um as mentioned before, this case is consistent with the comprehensive plan, the future land use map. Um as it with regard to the um the easement, the site distance easement, um we are still working out the language of that with the city attorney's office, uh transportation, public utilities just to make sure that the language is good. But I'm fully confident that that will be uh completed and ready to be recorded uh in the near future. Um so I I think things are moving in a a positive direction with regard to the the traffic question about access and and visibility to Barwell Road. Um but happy to answer any questions and we appreciate the uh deferral to allow us to continue that work with PEJ. Thank you. Right. Questions for Mr. Mills? Yes. Um can you um in your work with partners for en environmental justice can did they were is there anything they requested that is not reflected in these conditions? Yes. So they provided us a list of potential conditions. Um the one that we uh the the one type that they requested that we have not committed to was the use of green storm water infrastructure here. Um the reason being uh it's the uh suburban nature of our site. A lot of the gsi practices that you see uh deal either with um parking lot landscaping or items or or or practices that you may see in a more urban setting. We thought that given the suburban nature, the the only practical gsi device that would make sense here would be some sort of bio retention area and the bio retention areas would serve and serve in addition to these increased storm water ponds. The problem with this site is given the limited developable area, we did not feel comfortable committing to that because it would likely involve us grading and developing further into the and by development, I just mean grading for um for storm water and landscaping, things like that. But it would require us to clear additional uh trees within the 100red-year flood plane. And our our thought is given the commitment to the 25-year storm event with the pretty significant uh 100red-year flood plane areas that exist between the developable area and the repairarian buffer that there are going to be enough trees and vegetation to naturally uh treat and further filtrate that water before it reaches Walnut Creek. Um, so we we think that just given the natural environment, we have some advantages for additional water treatment that we may not necessarily have to commit to in terms of gsi. Um, we also another condition that we we've already committed to was the commitment to dedicate at least 3 acres of TCA south of Walnut Creek. um which should again just provide additional assurances that there will be significant tree cover between the development and the repairarian buffer. Got it. Um okay. Can and switching back maybe this is a question for staff. Um, Wayne, can you maybe speak to what like scope of gsi options could could be available and worth maybe? Sorry, Worth, while he's coming down and getting ready, can um did you speak with city staff regarding the the gsi anytime during this process? No, we just uh spoke with the PEJ group and then internally with uh Peter Kosin, our engineer, who is available if you have any questions. Got it. Excellent. Thanks Wayne. Hi, Wayne Miles, stormwater manager and engineering services. Um, so we do believe that there's a a greater variety of green stormwater infrastructure uh devices that would be available in this situation other than just the bio retention. We'd be glad to work with the applicant um to talk about those options. And I would disagree with this inherent trade-off of adding gsi is going to increase tree removal. Um, and there are gsi uh devices that have the ability to add trees which would help offset that is as well. So, we'd be glad to work with the applicant if that would be beneficial. I don't know where the um will of the body will be. Um, and apologies worth for not giving you a heads up. I just got information that led me to believe there might be other options. So, um, anyway, if there's openness from the body to to have to facilitate that conversation between our city staff and and um your engineering team on GSI opportunities, I think that would be great so we could deliver on the request from partners for environmental justice. But um, you know, certainly up to the group. Well, it might be helpful to hear from their engineering u just to hear. It's okay. It's okay. Peter Kassen, Jones Kassen, Engineering, uh engineer for the development team. Um you know, I I understand GSI and I'm not necessarily opposed to it. Uh but for a sing single family subdivision, um typically we I've used bio retention devices. The problem with those are they get very large by themselves. So typically you have like a dry pond underground storage uh to handle the the quantity of water whereas the bio is for the qu for the quality um and uh for underground detention for um dry ponds generally you have to clear quite a bit of land uh because buyer retention by themselves they get so large. Um, as far as for single family gsi, I I know they have like rain barrels, uh, those kind of things, but I don't I don't understand how that is, um, controlled, so to speak. The ownership's on a single family homeowner, uh, to basically make sure that rain barrels there. So, basically, if if a homeowner removed the a rain barrel, becomes a zoning compliance issue. So, it it opens up kind of a can of worms, so to speak, uh, in my view. Um, I know staff may disagree, but that's just my point of view. I'm I'm glad to discuss uh other options that they may have used or seen used in a residential single family setting. Um but my point of view is more of uh there are there areas where there's almost 150 to 200 feet of flood plane um where we're going to be developing. So you're going to have that natural um filtration through the through the uh through the flood plane before it ever reaches the creek. U the natural uh infiltration is the best you can have in my opinion. So this site offers that. That's why I'm not in favor of the gsi by itself. Thank you. Um, councelor Silver. Yeah, I um first I appreciate my colleagues concern. I was going to save this comment for comments by the mayor and council at that point. Uh, but watching some of these resoning cases, I'm getting increasingly concerned about conditions. Uh, I know we have a comprehensive plan process coming up which will look at the code, but I noticed from both storm water and transportation, we're frequently coming up with conditions that go above and beyond our current rules. So, either our rules aren't working and need to be updated. Um, or the process is broken. It's one of the two, but every case that I have seen just about, uh, if it's two to five, we go 10 to 20. It it just whatever is on our rules go beyond. And so in general, uh, I just want to make sure we take a close look through the comprehensive planning process. If there's a pattern of conditions that come up case after case after case, let's take a look to see if we need to change our standards versus a case-bycase tweaking of conditions, which is a customized zoning district, and we have thousands of them across the city. So, in general, I just want us to take a very close look at our current standards. If on storm water they're not satisfactory and it needs to be higher, let's do it higher. But I just want to make sure as we're sitting here there's even the case that I just made a motion to approve uh was the same situation. So I personally don't see a need to add another condition. I'm going to trust the civil engineers u that are helping to plan this particular site and help craft these conditions. So that's just something I want to talk a bit more uh at the table as we're approaching a new conference and plan update. It's something I did when I was here the last time. We looked at standard conditions to see what can be codified if they make sense so that we don't customize uh our zoning code essentially case after case. Great. And I know we do have opposition uh here, but uh no, that's okay. That was helpful. And uh Lambert Melton, council, I just want to add to this discussion. uh if we're looking for a direction from the table, I'm fine if you want to talk to our trans uh to our um staff, storm water staff and see if there's some solution. I will just add that anytime we are going above and beyond our standards, it increases the cost and so everyone is concerned about the cost of housing and housing affordability and understanding that if you are to incorporate some heightened standard, I'm assuming that cost will be passed down to the cost of the the homes being constructed. And we do need to remember that every time we reduce a project by a story or a number of units or add additional storm water controls above and beyond what our code and our staff has recommended, it all gets pushed out into the market. Um, and so I do think we need to be mindful of that. Okay. Um, why don't we have uh Mr. Lane who is signed up in opposition and you have eight minutes. Good afternoon, mayor and members of the council. I am Dr. Lane Ulysiz Lane, and I am a um the president of the Brandywood South Division Neighborhood Association, and I'm also chair of the Southeast Raleigh Citizen Advisory Committee. So, I'm kind of here the the way you have either four or against opposition, it's kind of concerned, so I couldn't say four. Although most of the area is in favor of development and coming but there are concerns that impact quality of life as I listen to a lot of the technical jargon that goes over our residents heads but there's quality of life that's infected by all of this that work needs to be done baby ahead of time because we have to live with it after it's done. So, some of these things I've sent you a letter on with some of the concerns that have come up at neighborhood meetings and things that and the thing you need to remember, you don't know what you don't know. So, uh residents come to meetings, they don't know. They know what they tell them. They know one or two things that affect them. And so, there's issues that they they just can't conceive that somebody has to help them work through. That's what we do at the Southeast Citizen Advisory Council and other things to help them seat a little bit further ahead. So, some of the issues that I put down, I hear you talking about the curb on Barwell World and the thing is that they're going to extend uh a road in Brandy Crest that's going to come out to Barwell. Uh when they extend that road, that road comes out on that curb. So, there's there's safety issues when that curb come out. I hear your discussion about is it's a state road. You have to work with the state. There's certain guidelines on clearing the area so you could see. Is this after the approval of this reszoning? Is it before? I mean, how do we know as residents what that means to us? We hear what you say, but we don't know what that mean until it's done. And we're going to be impacted by that. So, we're concerned about that curb. We're concerned about that traffic that comes down Barwell Road. We're worried. We're concerned about the congestion on on um uh at the end of Barwell Road and um I think it's it's Barington Street and right where the bridge is, there's a lot of congestion down there. And so this extra street uh may bring out additional traffic. There's some mention of what that traffic could be depending on number of houses that they build. But my estimate that when I think about building a house down and the number of cars, when I left my house, I looked at the street and everybody has two to four cars. Two to four cars. So you multiply that by each house. That's the number. I don't know where we get these other numbers that talk about go back and forth, but a lot of people have a lot of cars that they're driving. So anyway, that's going to increase traffic. the safety and we get an extra road coming into our subdivision, the Brandywood subdivision, which is good uh to have an extra road. We have two going in Chad Moss and uh Continental now. But again, that curve and the speed is something that we're concerned about. Also, another thing that we're concerned about, of course, is um uh with quality of life is this walkability. And we're talking about a greenway. We're talking about sidewalks going down to the greenway and uh being able to utilize those greenways, which we haven't been able to fully utilize in that area. Uh we noticed uh on Pool Road when they did the widening of Pool Road, they uh put sidewalks in and I have noticed an increased use by residents going down to the greenway, riding their bikes and and strollers and jogging and everything else. So that's the positive thing we wanted to see. We don't have that on Barwell Road yet. There's a lot of plans and things that's going on. We have what I call patchiness of of development and sidewalks. This patchiness is an example of where you may have a developer put in the sidewalks and widen the street. So you can go from that section of one area and then to the next section nothing. You go to another section something the next section nothing. So, for example, uh we have a bus stop at uh Chat Moss and Bark in Brandywood. They put in a new bus stop there. They put a pavement there. Looks beautiful. Shelter there, but it's just for that one section. Everybody has to get to it. Either walks in the street or walks on the grass. That's so It looks good though. And that's the way we work. That's that patchiness that I'm talking about that in our comprehensive plan and others we need to address because it's it's not helping quality of life for us in these areas. Um the other thing that I want to mention too is that the um the lift station and the odor that comes from the lift station and it's not new. We've dealt with this lift station for a long time from these and the chemicals that cause the odor from the lift station are the hydrogen sulfides. That's what you really get into that smell like rotten eggs. And it's not new around the company for coming from this facility. And and I have to commend the city has spent a lot of money, done a lot of time to put in state-of-the-art process to control the odor and the sulfide, but it's still there. And if you're going to build houses next to this, what and and the city uh has sent me information about monitoring and testing and everything for this odor and the sulfides. They let me they have not let me know what the safe level is for sulfides. If you're going to put people closer to this facility and still have sulfides which cause if you when I looked at ocean and other places cause respiratory problems and I have asthma and I've increased my asthma attacks and stuff and not knowing whether it's related to this or not or other pollution in the air. So again this sulfide and this this station that we're going to build houses closer to we're decreasing that buffer from it. Plus, I like to know what is the safe level. The the the ocean them recommends maybe 20 parts per million and for sometimes in the workplace they may go by 10 or 15 minutes, but again it's there. We have a greenway trail that comes by there. So residents need to know. I lived in Pennsylvania near Three Mile Island Middletown. This is not we're dealing with radiation but they as you know over the years lowle exposure turned out to have cancer developed. So what is low-level exposure to these sulfides? There's no cancer that is known to be developed from this. But what about the respiratory thing? These are the things that are affecting us in quality of life that as we talk over each other's heads we're we're missing for us residents that we need to have addressed. So, those are the a few of the things that I I've written you about. There's probably a few others. I won't take up a lot of time because maybe you you they try to address some of it. For the flooding, I they mentioned in the flooding that there was a hurricane. I've lived there and I've seen water come up to the bridge down there at Batting twice. Water come up to the bridge and cover the greenway. I've seen that. And that wasn't due to just prolonged rain. And so that we know those of us that live in the neighborhood know that. So these are just these are a few of the issues that uh we wanted to point out and I hope we don't know where they fit with your approval but we know we have to live with that quality of life after we go through all of this and we need some clarification and understanding at our level. What does that mean when you work it's a state road and you're going to work with the road state about clearing that curve. What does that mean for us in the future? you know, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you. All right, we will uh close that hearing and do you all have questions? Just a couple of comments. One, um we've received your email, Dr. Lane, and my question is from our city manager. um he mentioned a lot of things that you know are issues regardless of this zoning case and I was wondering when can we look for some type of responses um to those emails to his email if you'll forward me the email we'll get Okay. Yes. Um we can get a staff response maybe by Friday. If not definitely by next Friday. Okay. All right. Especially the the sulfate part. I know we have our staff. The staff want to speak to the lift station and how we're addressing. Good afternoon. Erica Bailey with Raleigh Water. So, at the Walnut Creek Lift Station, which is one of our largest regional u pump stations, wastewater pump stations, we implemented a capital improvement project where we put in a new odor control system. uh a few years ago and that was kind of the state-of-the-art system that was being described. Um and uh that is in addition to some chemical uh systems that we also where we add chemicals to try to control the hydrogen sulfide as well to try to reduce the amount of hydrogen sulfide um that is the primary odor-causing constituent. Okay. I guess on that point when you're just talking about do you monitor is it really an o like the odor issue and then he's talking about parts per million and exposures I mean are we also monitoring we we do monitor for performance um I do want to mention that with hydrogen sulfide you can detect odors at parts per billion okay so that's a thousand times lower than parts per million so we are trying to reduce it down to very low concentrations in order to so that it's you're not smelling it at the where there's a receptor or where you know at the edge of the property. Yeah. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Just um I guess this would be for the applicant. So, when I'm looking at the resoning case, I see you're going from 122 units possible to 125, but you're going from R4 to R10. Is that correct? Could you just tell me a little bit about, you know, I just expected that there would be more units. Um, you know, usually you can do higher density in R10 compared to R4. So, just tell me a little bit about like what's the difference here, what you're really asking for. That's right. So, I can't speak to the city's calculations on, you know, current yields, but the reason for going to R10 is to allow for the possibility to develop this site as a town home subdivision. There is still a question amongst the applicant whether this site is most appropriate for a townhouse subdivision or if it's better suited for a single family subdivision that looks very much like the homes to the west and the south. So the the R10 allows us that flexibility uh to do that. Um but but you're correct. I mean in terms of the staff report it's an increase in three units. Okay. I just wanted to note that for um my own understanding, it does seem like it's not necessarily a huge change here. Um when I think about like the need for green storm water infrastructure, I'm you know generally considering surface area of development. So I don't know that this will necessarily be more surface area and it could be less if you use town homes over single family. I I think in either situation, you're going to see, and I think I I had this in the previous presentation, we're reszoning 43 and a half acres. We're probably only going to be able to develop 12. Um and so yes, we've tried to offer as many conditions as we can to say, you know, for every portion of the property that we're not developing, we can add TCA south of the creek to ensure that we have some natural filtration. We can prohibit any future development north of the creek um to again provide that natural vegetation to account for the storm water runoff north of the creek. Um so throughout the process and I appreciate Dr. Lane um speaking and and inviting us to go to the CAC's um I think at every step of the way we've tried to look at ways to better this project and sometimes you get to a point where you say is it practical to add a gsi condition where as Mr. Kasan mentioned the the most effective one is going to be that sort of bio retention area. Um but at what cost does that bio retention area come at? Is it the removal of mature trees that are already serving you know a storm water runoff purpose in addition to what this project's going to have to do when it's developed which is now can now treat and detain for the 25-year storm. Um, I'll give one example. You could do permeable pavement and that wouldn't take any trees. You could just use that on your streets instead. But I agree. I don't think a condition is necessary. Cool. All right. Thank you. Uh, other discussion or is there a motion at the table? Um, no other discussion. I just want to thank um um work for the work he's done on this project. I also thank Dr. Lane. Um, we continue to stay in conversation. We will continue to stay in conversation um as we work through this. And at this time, I move to adopt the proposed consistency statement dated June 3rd, 2025 contained in the agenda materials and to approve the zoning amendment with the adoption and effective dates described in the agenda's items under recommended action. Second. Second. Okay, we have a first and a second. Is there any other conversation? If not, all in favor of the motion I I. All opposed. Okay, thank you everybody and we'll have a followup um to Mr. uh Ulysus Grant's questions uh separately. All right. Oh sorry Grant. Very different person. Thank you. Uh, okay. We are now on to the Parks, Recreation, and Greenway Advisory Board to present the Arensbrook Park schematic design. And we have D Gal from parks. Good afternoon, Mayor, City Council. Uh, DAL, capital projects manager with Raleigh Parks. The Ernsbrook Park is a part of uh parks bond project um with nearly uh $7 million budget. The master plan was was adopted in 2017 and for the past six months. The project team has been working with the community and develop schematic design. Um the construction is expect to start 2027. I'm also um um I'm also like to introduce Joe Pong from Banish. Um he will present the project details. Thank you. Thank you, D. Good afternoon, council and uh mayor. Um my name is Joe Pong. I'm a landscape architect and project manager at Benish. So, I'd like to start off with a little project context. Um, the image on the left, you can see our park site outlined in red. It is off Leville Road. It's above to the north of 540. Um, it's over by the new swing rack and paddle complex. Um, first T fire station number 29. And then the dark green dashed line you see there is a future greenway. On the right is an um aerial photograph of the site. You can see that it's heavily wooded and surrounded by single family residential. Here's some existing images of the site. Um one of the images of uh one of the really nice trees on site that we're going to try to save. Um the site generally slopes from the north down to the south from Leville Road down to um the stream which is in the image on the right. So, this is a graphic from the approved 2017 master plan. Um, the main park elements proposed here include a restroom and shelter, uh, playgrounds, a dog run, and some walking trails through the preserved woods. Um, these elements you will see again in our schematic design. So, as De mentioned, we had two public open houses um as well as an online um input survey. We had lots of participants um generally positive feedback and public support um from the community and we got lots of um great feedback that we took into account during our design. So, this is an overall view of our schematic design. Um, starting at the north end of the site, we have our main entrance and then along Leville Road, we have a multi-use path that will serve to connect pedestrians to the park. Um, and then coming down from the main entrance is a parking lot and then some more active uses of the park. So, these are all located in the flattest area of the site. Um, and that's to minimize disturbance to the existing trees. Um, and then I'll talk about these more active uses in the next slide. So, coming down from those active uses, we've got a trail that meanders through the forest. Um you can see that it crosses over um wetlands which is this the dark green shade crossing over some wetlands with boardwalks and then crossing over the creek down towards the bottom of the the site with a bridge and then finally ending at Inglehart Drive with another pedestrian connection. Further up on the trail there's um the connection to the that future greenway. Then this is an enlargement of those more active uses of the site. Um we've got a new parking lot with an emergency vehicle turnaround. Um just to the south of that, the red and blue um rectangles is a combined um comfort station and picnic shelter. On the west side is a dog run. Um to the right of the dog run, the blue and yellow kind of shading is a more traditional playground with some shade structures and a misting station. To the south of that is a nature playground and then to the east is an open grassy area which will be used for um informal gatherings like picnics, frisbee. Um and then the blue green areas are um proposed green storm water infrastructure um that will um be in place to treat and uh manage and treat the runoff from paved areas and from the roof of the shelter. We're also looking at adding some um educational signage um to teach the public about the importance of gsi. And then here are some um renderings of the site um to give you all an idea of what we think it'll look like. With that, I'll turn it back over to D. Um so the parks board uh approved the schematic design with uh and al also offered a few comments for consideration. Um this including increasing shade and tree uh tree cover in the developer area of the park and also designing open field for informal and non as likely to use recreation area. Um so we're here to recommend the city council to approve the schematic design for Brook Park incorporating comments from the parks recreation and greenway adversary advisory board. And we're here for the questions. Great. Thank you. Uh, councelor, can you go back to the schematic design? Uh, just had one question. The master plan had a loop. I don't know if it's topography, but this walk-in experience is out and back. The other one, if you go to the 2017, actually had a loop. So the issue here was that related to to because this is a better walking experience than an out and back. So what were the reasons why you went from a loop to just an out and back? Good question. So um the kind of dark green shade that you see on this image is a wetland that was kind of discovered when we had an environmental scientist go out to the site and delineate the wetland. And in order to you'd have to elevate it piles, right? And keep it keep it below that um disturbance threshold for mitigation, we went with an out and back eliminate unfortunately eliminated the the loop trail. You could can you explain if you wanted to design a wetland what would be required or would you have to elevate the walkway and how much of it would have to be elevated and how much would that or just prohibited from disturbing the wetland? I'm just trying to understand. just seems having the loop would be a better experience. So, if you could explain to me if there's a environmental reason for not doing it, a cost reason. Just wanted to ask that uh to find out more about the rationale for that. Yeah. So, I think it's it's partly environmental that we wanted to try to stay away from as much disturbance to the wetland as possible. Um and then also cost that a adding a boardwalk. I think we did study this early on. Um, and adding a boardwalk um would end up being a very long section of boardwalk. Um, understood. And if you can go to a closeup of the more active area. Uh, can you share with me? I see some of the benches around the play area, but around the more open space lawn for informal playing. Is there any thinking of framing that with a lot more benches? So, as people are out there and want a different experience, that's not a high cost item. Uh but whether uh what was the thinking behind just having an open lawn? Are there any benches surrounding just that open space? So, as people are playing and people can observe things going on, is that something that could be um added to the schematic? Yeah, definitely. I think we can look at that and make some pensions. All right. I I have I have no further questions. Thank you so much for your work. Super excited. This is in district E. And bring it over here. I did have a question about the greenway. Um if you can go back to like the first slide where you're doing the 1 2 3 4 so that it goes through this site and then swing is number one. I is there would there be a connection between this and onto swing so that there there would be a continuous p um connection of that greenway. Do you know if that's possible? I'll take that. Hi. Um I'm Shawin Baker. I'm with Raleigh Parks and I'm also the project manager for Swing, co- project manager with Outset Consultants. And as part of the swing development, yes, we do have a connector up there. And then the uh the greenway that you're showing here, it's not actual greenway. It's a corridor reserved for future development. But for the swing development, yes, we do have a connection. So this would all connect from that greenway, we would be able to get Yes. Okay. I just wanted to confirm that. Thank you so much. My questions go going back to um where councelor Silver was asking on the more detailed structured um part of the park and the playground. The just one thing I learned right at Gibson playground and also with um autism I think children is like trying to have one egress ingress egress to a playground like that so that parents can feel really confident where their children are that you don't have people coming from multiple angles the children aren't running out from multiple angles I mean is that a contained play area and then again the shade structures with benches for caretakers so that you the parents, the everybody is really comfortable and feels very safe within an enclosed area. Is that meant to be enclosed or is that open on those sort of 60% of the sides? Uh, it is open. Um, we did talk about at one time putting a fence um in here, but that's something that we could look at again. Okay. I mean, I would just if we've learned these lessons in other areas and it's become a best practice, might just be worth looking at it here. Um, so that's my comment. Uh, I mean, I I think you can all of these comments, right? You're just going to kind of incorporate it as you go forward. Um, I'm comfortable with that. I'm I'm trying not to share my bias from my previous job, but just really carefully look at benches. Um, benches, when you have a walkway with no benches, you're asking people to walk back forth. When you have benches, whether you have a stroller, whether you have a person with a walker, whether you have a person that has a disability walking, or you just want to enjoy just the the green oasis, it's nice to strategically, and it's on our greenways. They're far apart, but I mean this is contained enough where people can go out there and enjoy, especially that green space where if kids are playing, people could just frame it. And I'm not meaning a bench every 25 ft, but groups of benches where, you know, you could actually enjoy the space. This is at marginal cost. Uh, and I think it would just add another experience than just walking. People could actually sit out there and and nature bathe and just enjoy this beautiful trail. So, I would just, you know, encourage uh where benches make space. You know, I always like to look to see where the best view shed or corridor is for those benches, but I would just do it both on that green space and look for opportunities. It seems like you have kind of a seating wall near uh it looks like a small pond and you have a bridge, but this is a great place just to sit and enjoy nature. And I want to make sure there's a place for people to do that whether you're an adult or a child uh throughout this site. Yeah. Thanks. So we'll incorporate all the comments in the next phase of designs. Okay. So uh with that I would love to with all the feedback that you've received love to motion to approve this schematic design for Arensburg Park. Second. Right. All in favor of the motion I. I. All oppose? Nay. Right. Thank you for the work. Okay. Next we have uh report recommendation economic development and innovation and there was no items uh growth and natural resources committee. Yeah, we had three items on the first two tree removal penalties and tree protection during large events at our parks. Um we simply received information from staff and there was no action taken. On the third item um related to our new tree planting plan, Leaf Out, there was a recommendation from the committee that council direct staff to create a list of recommended native trees, shrubs, plants, and perennials for voluntary landscaping use on private development by developers and private property owners. Um so I'm going to put that forth as a recommendation. Um, I guess I'll make a motion to that effect if there's a second. Second. All right. Any other discussion? If not, on favor of the motion, I I. All opposed? Nay. Okay. So, and those are uh unanimous vote. Okay. Uh, next. Did you have anything else from that committee or Okay. So, safe, vibrant, and healthy. So, we have a meeting on the 24th um of this month. Great. And transportation. Yeah, transportation and transit committee met last month and wrapped up our discussion around citizen initiated street closings. So, we have two items to report out or sort of a part A and a part B to report out. Um, part A, the committee recommended approval of some process modifications for how street closings come forward. Um any street closing that sort of ticks all the administrative boxes will be moved forward to have the their public hearing set through the consent agenda. Any um street closure petition that doesn't check all the boxes um will come forward as an agenda item in the manager's update. So that's our um process change that we're recommending. And then the part B is sort of that there were two um case studies that that caused the need that that highlighted the need for these process changes. And the committee recommended that both of those uh Willow Street and the other one come forward to have a public hearing set. So we'll see those on a future agenda. Uh so moved. Second. Okay. U motion and a second. All in favor of the motion. I I. All oppose. Nay. Okay. So, that is unanimous. And next report and of the mayor and city council. I'll start with council Harrison. Yeah. I have a District D neighborhood alliance meeting this Saturday. That's June 7th at 9:30 a.m. and it's at the Polland Park Community Center. That's all. So, thank you. Um, I have a District C meeting. It is going to be June 23rd at 6:30. It's going to be held at Robert's Park. Um, also I want to congratulate all of our high school graduates. Um, they should be done and completed graduation by the time we meet as a council again. And also to all the fathers and father figures. Happy early Father's Day. Just a few things. District E's next community meeting will be held on June 11th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at L Cusina Italian Restaurant. Decoding Democracy Book Club will meet on June 14th from 9:30 to 11:30 at the Overberlin Regional Library. We will be reviewing the Raleigh charter. So, if you'd like to sign to join, sign up at christina4.com to access reading materials. I have a huge shout out to our parks department. Um, a year ago, I received a panicked phone call from Bobby Gilbert about a tree being removed from Ron Park. It had a limb that had fallen on a car and needed to be cut down for safety reasons. Bobby asked if we could stop the work being done on the tree so neighbors could have the stump turned into a tree sculpture for the kids to enjoy at the park. And I didn't know if we could halt work that was actively being done. But I called our policy analysts and staff stopped working and commissioned Corey Lancaster to turn that beautiful old tree into an art piece. And that art piece was installed last week. I went by to visit with Bobby and watched so many children admire all the animals carved into it, including a squirrel to honor Bobby. So, thank you to the parks department from the bottom of District E's heart. Uh that was really great. Thank you so much for that. Um and then another huge thank you to staff for being proactive. This is referencing our uh consent agenda, which councelor Patton does such a good job of. So, I'm uh we had a district E thing, so I want to pull it and uh say four words looking at the larger portion of Glen Eden Drive and Hadley Road after you received a call from residents uh about the line of sight. You went above and beyond to help prevent any future issues and I'm so glad that residents responded to you guys in such a positive way. So, um I appreciate your proactiveness and uh thanks a lot. Thank you. and we had the state of the county city and schools uh last week. So, I just appreciate all of the folks that participated in our uh our dancing uh activity and got a lot of good feedback on that. Um so, thank you. I would say council member Lambert Melton owes you one mayor since he was the only one not there. So, he should stand up and do it right now. Right. But a special shout out to councelor Jones who led us counsel in getting the boots on the ground. Right. So, uh I just have uh three items. One, um I know that the Gibson Play Plaza officially opens this weekend. Some have got a a sneak peek and this is going to be, I think, a national gem. Uh it is one of the most beautiful, interactive, uh well-designed parks I have seen in a long time. And we're going to have a problem. It's going to be loved to death. So, there's going to be a lot of people wanting to get here. Uh and we have to be prepared for all those uh secondary parking lots and trolleys from Moore Square. Uh it is a beautiful space. So, kudos to the parks department. Kudos to Dick's conservancy and the designers. Uh it's certainly going to uh be one of the most talked about parks across the country. So just congratulations to everyone and uh the city manager and I will talk about the residual cost of tires at another time. Uh I had mentioned it a little bit earlier. Um I don't know u city manager how we can handle this one but getting increasingly concerned as we're going through the comments process uh about conditions and how those conditions are used. uh you know I believe conditions should mitigate impacts and it seems that uh if there are some standard conditions don't know if we can have a work session where the plane department could list the top 10 conditions that we see again and again and as we move toward a comp plan and hopefully updating the code are these items that we should just standardize and talk about uh because I think coming in it's very difficult as we're trying to share a predictable path forward and I agree with council member Lam at Melton that it adds cost as well. Uh but I'm just seeing the list of conditions growing from 5 to 15 to 18 and so either the code is broken, the process is broken or something's not working. So certainly would appreciate as we're moving into this conversation uh to get more predictability around conditions uh that we have a conversation and I'm sure the city attorney would want to weigh in on that as well. Uh the last point and I'm very pleased that the mayor had raised this issue. Uh we had this conversation last week about the crosswalks and how they're being painted. Thank you so much for a very very detailed response. I just and I do believe uh if staff can take a look at six forks uh this is a very thorough uh report or at least a memo sharing how those more heavily trafficked thorough affairs have their crosswalks worn out. So, I don't know if a seven-year cycle would be appropriate in those instances because they're being worn out. Uh, as you know, I'm part of a running group. We're passing streets all the time. Cars are not stopping where they should be stopping because virtually some of those lines are invisible or the crosswalks are non-existent and it's almost at every crossing on Six Forks. I understand that there are some ADA ramps going in and resurfacing and painting may come in. But it's something that as we look at vision zero, creating a safer uh city for our residents, particularly if we want them to use our uh our bus system, we want to make sure we have safe crosswalks. And I was hoping on that slide from solid waste that those who paint crosswalks were on that list, but I seems like you have a crew covered. So, that's something that's near and dear important to me for both our pedestrians and that we make sure we want to have a safe environment so that cars know where to stop but also people know where the cross and it's very visible particularly at night. Uh so with that, those are my three items and I'll yield now to my colleague. Could I just respond to council member Silver? Um, I just am curious if we want to continue this discussion because there is really good information here and it could be done in a transportation committee meeting perhaps just to look at our cycles, the costs um because I think this is an issue across the city and council member Hass reminded me I think she said a year or two ago she was willing to buy the paint or paint it herself but uh I would accept that going I'm not I will join in in the audience uh for that conversation for that committee but that is a a great recommendation if the committee will accept. Sure. Yeah. Send it to committee. We'll take it in. I think you need a formal motion. Sure. I will motion to have a discussion about painting crosswalks um and just general um marked paint around the city. Yeah. To ensure our safety. Um whether you're in a car, walking, biking, scooting, busing, all the above. Second. Okay. All in favor of the motion? I I. All opposed? Nay. All right. Unanimous. All right. Um, so good things we did through our consent agenda today. We executed six municipal agreements with North Carolina DOT um and the appropriate funding. And particularly one of those projects is Capital and Calvary, which is the deadliest intersection in the city. And so I've been um watching that one and I'm really grateful to see this step of the process move forward so we can make that intersection safer for all. Um, we also approved traffic safety improvements on Willow Oak Drive and awarded the bid for the neighborhood traffic calming projects. Um, as for like new things, one, I'd like to ask staff for information on the Skyrest Drive extension. I know there's a planned street that would get get us over the Noose River, but I'd just like to understand better like is that on any sort of short list? Is it on the the 10-year horizon? um is it, you know, would it make it on the list for a future bond, etc., etc. Kind of a broad broad view of that particular road. Um and then just announcing I have office hours this Thursday from 6:00 to 8 at Heyday Brewing uh in the 5401 neighborhood. I have a report today. First, I will say I am sorry I missed um the state of the county, city, and schools. I was in court. Um, I turned 40 this year and maybe it's a sign of my advancing age. I have no idea what the boots on the ground dance is. So, I could I could not do it. Disappointed. You're the I could not do it for I started as one of the youngest on council, but I'm I'm quickly progressing past that. So, I apologize. I was not there to participate. Um, I'm going to start by saying happy Pride. June is Pride Month. Um, if you go to Raleigh PrideNC.com, there's a list of events happening all month long. Um, Pride Weekend in Raleigh is the weekend of June 20th. The Out Raleigh Pride Festival will be on Fateville Street on Saturday, June 21st. Um, hope to see you all there. Mayor Prom Fort and I are usually on the stage doing something. I expect that will occur again, but not sure. Not the boots on the ground dance. That's We will not be on stage doing that. We can teach you. We've got a couple weeks. I've got you. I put it out there now. It's probably what I'll be doing on that stage. Um, and then I have two other items. Um, for the manager's office, I received an email from a resident with concerns about a strong odor coming from a sewer line on Gorman Street near I40. Um, I'd like to see if staff could look at that intersection at Gorman Street and I40 offramp to make sure there's not any infrastructure area uh issues happening. And then the second piece is I think we've all received some emails from residents across the city that are interested in us looking at implementing a community gardens program similar to what Charlotte has done in their city parks. I'm not very familiar about what Charlotte has done with their community gardens. I do remember a few years ago when we had a holistic discussion about how we can put goods and services closer to people. We allowed on-site produce sales at um gardens. Yes. Uh we also were looking at this commercial accessory commercial unit and then we did have a discussion about uh popup like farmers markets and things like that at city parks. Um I don't remember if this was part of that discussion or not, but I'd like to see what Charlotte's doing and if that's something we could implement here if maybe we could get that information in a manager's update. Sure. And that's all I have. Megan, um got a couple things. Uh first uh I was able to attend the um memorial service for uh Smithfield Town Council member Marlon Lee yesterday. Um and of course uh council member being from a neighboring uh town was important, but he also had a connection to the city of Raleigh. He was a proud alum of St. Augustine's University and was a member of the 1997 um championship CIAA team. So represented the city with that yesterday. Um, we had a lot of events going on in the city of Raleigh over the weekend. So I um attended the um and was a presenter for um some of the awards for the um Special Olympics North Carolina summer games that were held at NC State over the weekend. um also attended um the um and we did a welcome for the national meeting of uh HIV is not a crime uh training academy which is also NC State. So spent a lot of time with the catpack folks this weekend which was um which was interesting. Um cat yeah that's what I call them. Um, but I also had a couple of questions and I know we had the work session yesterday uh related to a couple of items that were related to the budget. Um, and I was wanting to know if between the city manager staff and um Charnell and human resources if they could provide some data about workplace injuries um and provide them to us by department. Uh, I don't know if y'all keep those types of records, but it'd be interesting to see um by department what types of um workplace injuries um city workers have been sustaining. And then I also had a follow-up question for the city manager's office. Um I talked I had made a request a while back about getting some data information as relates to um RPD um going to 12 um hour shifts. So I didn't know where we were with um getting that report back. You mean RFD? No, I'm sorry. Did I say RPD? Yeah. The chief voice is looking at me like, we already do that. Sorry, chief. The other chief, I saw him immediately, but yeah, fire department going to 12-hour shifts. We'll get that back. Um, and as we work with our consultant and in-house team to bring back the fire master plan assessment on July 1st. We had originally thought we would be able to do that on the 17th, but logistics didn't work. So, we'll um July 1st. Okay. Thank you. And then councelor Branch had one thing. Yeah, I just had one more item. Um, today I had earlier today I had the privilege of being on a housing panel with Governor Stein um as well as Senator Mayfield um and some of our house housing agencies that we work with. Um I expect more action coming from the governor's office as far as addressing housing as well as the general assembly. Um, one of the things they're really looking at is supply and how we can deal with supply at all income levels. Um, so we met at Milner's Common, which is on Newurn Avenue, um, senior housing, 156 156 units. Um, Raleigh, we put 5.6 million into that project. So, you know, we also had a discussion about costs and what, you know, government agencies have to do. And with that, hopefully our county commissioners will find some money to put back into their housing plan that they just took out. Yeah. Okay, that wraps up Mayor City Council reports. Uh, next we have appointments. Good afternoon. Jumping right in. First is Arts Commission, one regular vacancy. Jill Heath received eight votes, so would be appointed. Next is Centennial Authority, two regular vacancies. John Harden received four votes, Latanta Mcrimman four votes, and Twan Terrell five votes. So Mr. would be appointed and that remaining vacancy will appear on your next ballot with the two remaining nominees. Next is Human Relations Commission. Um, hold that for just a second. This is waiting a long time. Is there any way that we can just vote on that right now? Can I motion to vote on John Harden for the council's discretion? Okay. Well, I'd like to motion to push John Harden through to uh appointment. Second. Okay. So, do another round ballot or No, right now at the table doing at the table so that we don't This has been like forever. So, I'm like, let's just get it done. So, I think I just motioned and Jane seconded. So, this is for John Harden. Okay. So, basically it would be Terrell and then we would vote for Okay. Um, sure. If all in favor of the motion I do an I. All opposed. Okay. So that does not pass. Four. All right. So we will wait for the next ballot. Yes. Unless somebody else wants to make a motion or I mean I I'll motion that we do a vote on laser mcrim today. So second it. All right. All in favor of that motion. I and all opposed. Okay, we will move to another uh round. I know this has been a painful process partially because everybody being nominated is great and um it's it's been very difficult for council. So, um yeah. Okay. Uh continuing. All right. So, that'll be coming back. So, human relations commission kind of lumped this one together. We technically have one alternate and one regular vacancy. Um, council member Patton nominated Rachel Boon here. Um, as a reminder during the last meeting, there were a couple of alternates eligible to be alter to be elevated. Council proceeded to elevate one of them, Helen Sporin, and requested staff communicate with the other alternate member um, who had not attended any meetings yet on attendance expectation. So staff has not received any response um, from Miss Allen at this point and so she remains an alternate member. So, so since we haven't heard anything and we've reached out and we had this, I just vote to remove Miss Allen as from her position. Yeah. I mean, we've waited almost a month. Yeah, I think that's fine. And then I nominated Rachel Boon for the J Jakarma Allen is the existing alternate. Yeah. Okay. So, you've got a motion to both remove and appoint or are we doing one at a time? Okay, just just the one. Okay. Um, we have a motion, a second. All in favor of removing Mr. Karma Allen from her position. I I All opposed. Okay. So, that is unanimous. And then the nomination is for the next ballot. Okay. Thank you. So, we'll we'll bring that alternate. Um, we still have that now. We have the one. Hold on. I'm trying to think through this. I I'll get it right on the ballot, but we'll um we'll bring both of those vacancies back in some way. Okay. Next is Raleigh Historic Development Commission. Two regular vacancies. Um if you'll recall, the council appointed an individual during the last meeting um at the recommendation of the RSGC to serve after further research. This individual is not eligible um because they just rolled off last June. So, per city code, they have to be gone from a board for two years before they're eligible. So because of that, the entire two vacancies are back on the ballot. We had the one remaining RHDC nominee and then we had um a council nominee of John Shimmer. So Reverend Gibbs, RHDC nominee, received four votes. Mr. Shimmer received eight, so would be appointed. So um and council member Patton nominated Ariel uh Co Kurick. So, um, that individual and Reverend Gibbs will be carried over to your next ballot for the remaining vacancy. Mouthful here. All right. Um, and last under appointment, Substance Use Advisory Commission, one regular vacancy. Paul Kllins received eight votes. It would be appointed. Nominations, Police Advisory Board, one regular vacancy. This is for your LGBT community member slot. Term of existing member Jeremy Jeremy Roka is expiring. does not wish to be considered for reappointment. As mentioned, he currently feels that slotted role. Um there are two alternate members. However, they those alternate um slots are not do not have specific requirements. I move to elevate Tiana Morgan. I looked at Miss Morgan's application and she will fill the um LGBTQ community member slot. Second. Okay. Uh first and the second. All in favor? I. I. All oppose? Nay. And the eyes have it. All right. So, I'll bring back that alternate vacancy that was just created. Next, Civil Service Commission. One regular vacancy um term of Patricia Holland's expiring soon. She does not wish to be considered for reappoint the Raleigh Civil Service Act. Miss Holland fills a slot of uh individuals actively engaged in the management of a private business or industry. So, it would be appropriate for the council to keep that in mind when considering uh replacements. And as a reminder, she will continue to serve until replaced, but that'll be carried over to your next ballot. Um, Cassidy, when I was preparing over the weekend, it looks like in Granicus, there are no eligible applicants of any kind for the Civil Service Commission. So, it might be a good time to put out a broadcast to to social media and various groups that we might be connected with who have the types of professionals we're looking for. Uh, we can coordinate with the city's communications department on that. Um, next, community engagement board. We do have a lot going on here. Um, terms of 11 members are currently vacant or expiring soon as as outlined in the agenda packet. Kind of two buckets here. Um, you know, we have half of them that are nominated by council members and must reside in the corresponding district. Half are nominated by staff and have specific slotted requirements. Ultimately, all the members need five votes in order to be appointed. Um, we did attach the bylaws for reference which go into further details on all of the slots. Could I just raise that it just seems like there's a problem here, right? There's no reappointment desired and people resigning like flies. Um, so clearly this seems like this is struggling and there uh we need to maybe just take a special look at this. Okay. And one thing I want to on your chart, you have Miss Stewart for B, but she's actually for C. Yep, that's right. Sorry about that. Yes, I have a nominee for my um slot, but I also agree that this is maybe signaling a larger conversation. Um, I know that this board was created, I think, during a moment in time where we were trying to build out a larger apparatus. Maybe their work has completed. I don't know, but maybe we want to have a discussion about what we envision next. I see. So, I am the liazison for them. I've planned to uh be at their meeting on June 11th. Uh so, I can definitely lift that here, lift that to them and bring some information back to council to to let you know what what that discussion is, but I don't know how you'd like to move forward if we want to set a date to talk about it, but I that can be the first step. Could Could we I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, could we just hold off on nominating anyone and then maybe we could have this as a man on your manager's report at a future council meeting to have a discussion once we get bring it back as we bring back some recommendations for the board and commission's work that you all working on. Okay. So, I'll also reach out to staff after that meeting as well. They'll be there and then I'll reach out to your office to let you know and we'll move from there. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you. So, question. Um, we're putting stuff on hold and I know Miss Stewart, she contacted me again. she was interested in serving and I had already nominated her prior to our decision today. So, what direction do we want to give? I would tell Miss Stewart that we've had we're we're just concerned that they may not be getting enough direction or it's not productive. So, we just we don't want to That's fair. Put her in the middle of something that may be shifting. That That's fair. I just want to make sure we're singing from the same. Yep. Yes, ma'am. And then the only thing I would add, I think a a discussion is warranted for sure, but also want to make sure as part of it we consider that perhaps this is um like this board's very young. So if all the just if all the terms end at the same time, it's going to always look like this, whereas our other boards that have had more time to like stretch out, which is why we only see like one seat to to reappoint at one one time. So, um I just think that's a it's worth it to look at whether that's the factor too. So, just just adding that and I just wanted to add I have heard concerns from multiple district D representatives on this board about you know what is the mission, what is their what are their activities. So, I I do think it is ongoing concern. So, we'll wait for the signal from the city manager's office um until and it'll be on hold in the meantime. Okay. And that's all. Thank you. All right. Report and recommendation of the city attorney. No report. Okay. And report and recommendation of the city clerk. Good afternoon, mayor and council. You have uh draft minutes from your May 20th work session and regular session for consideration. Move for approval. Second. All in favor of the motion? I I. All oppose? Nay. And that motion passes. All right. Uh next we have a motion to go into close session. Uh motion is in order to enter close session pursuant to general statute 143-318.11a3 to consult with the city attorney in order to preserve the attorney client privilege and to consider and give instruction regarding the handling and or settlement of a potential claim in the following matters. the city of Raleigh versus Sunduram Holdings LLC and general statute 143-318.11a6 to consider the qualifications competence performance character, fitness, conditions of appointment or conditions of initial employment of an individual public officer or employee or prospective public officer or employee or to hear or investigate a complaint, charge or grievance by or against an individual public officer or employee. So moved. Second. All in favor of the motion I I. All oppose, nay. That passes. All right, we will go into close session. Hey hey hey. [Music] Oh. Oh. Oh. [Music] Oh hey. [Music] Hey baby. down. I'm a [Music] Heat. Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music] Oh, [Music] hey. Heat. Heat. 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