[2:58] Mayor Dan Lewis: Yeah, I probably would. >> Did you? I didn't hear. >> I don't have my son-in-law or not. >> He is. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, that's good to hear. Yeah. No, I think he's got his craft together. He doesn't know quite exactly what he wants to do. And I think he's been underemployed in the Air Force >> and he's got a little I always tell him say, "Dude, he even thinks, well, no one's going to want to hire me. You got to stop that. You're a captain in the Air Force. You've been doing some cool things. You went to the desert for 6 months. You're going to be fine. You got to raise yourself >> to order. Will the clerk please please note those in attendance? [3:36] City Clerk: All will be noted. [3:36] Mayor Dan Lewis: Please rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance. [3:36] Council & Audience: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [3:57] Mayor Dan Lewis: All right. To entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the regular city council meeting on August 26, 2025. [3:57] Council Member: So move. [3:57] Council Member: Second. [3:57] Mayor Dan Lewis: Motion second. All those in favor say I. [3:57] Council Members: I. [3:57] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any oppose? Motion carries. Minutes are approved. [3:57] Council Member: I would like to abstain from that vote to one abstention. [4:12] Mayor Dan Lewis: Let the record reflect one abstention. Item three, adoption of the agenda to entertain a motion to adopt the agenda. [4:12] Council Member: So move. [4:12] Council Member: Second. [4:12] Mayor Dan Lewis: Have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. [4:12] Council Members: I. [4:12] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any opposed? We have an agenda. Item four, consent agenda to entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. [4:12] Council Member: So move. [4:28] Council Member: Second. [4:28] Mayor Dan Lewis: Motion and second. All those in favor say I. [4:28] Council Members: I. [4:28] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any opposed? Motion carries. Consent agenda is approved. All right. Item five, visitors and presentations. We have a Constitution Week proclamation. As you know, we only do a handful of proclamations, and I look forward to doing this one. So, without further ado, I will read the proclamation for Constitution Week. Whereas the Constitution of the United States of America, the guardians of our liberties embodies the principles of limited government in a republic dedicated to rule of law. whereas September 17, 2025 marks the 238th anniversary of the framing of the Constitution of the United States of America. [5:13] Mayor Dan Lewis: Uh whereas it is fitting and proper to accord official recognition to this magnificent document and its memorable anniversary and to the patriotic celebration which will commemorate the occasion. Whereas public law 915 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year by the president of the United States designating September 17th through the 23rd as Constitution Week. [5:39] Mayor Dan Lewis: Now therefore, be it resolved that I, Dan Lewis, by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of White Bear Lake, Minnesota, do hereby proclaim September 17th through the 23rd as Constitution Week and ask our citizens to reaffirm the ideals the framers of the Constitution had in 1787 by vigilantly protecting the freedoms guaranteed to us through this guardian of our liberties. [6:10] Mayor Dan Lewis: All right. Very good. Thank you. All right. I'm moving on to item six, public hearings. We have nothing scheduled. Item seven, unfinished business. Nothing scheduled. Item 8A, 2026, preliminary budget and tax levy. Miss Kinsfodder, whenever you're ready. [6:26] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Mr. Mayor, I will take this one. [6:26] Mayor Dan Lewis: Or Miss Crawford. [6:29] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Okay. Um so tonight we are going to talk about the 2026 uh preliminary um budget and tax levy. Uh we're going to talk about the 26 budget schedule, strategic plan alignment, fund balance, fund balance analysis, preliminary budget and tax levy and then estimated uh tax levy impacts. Uh where we are at in the process uh right now it's September 9th. So, you are considering the preliminary tax levy and establishing uh the truth and taxation hearing date uh which is for uh in um December. Uh after this, the city council will hold a work session in October 21st to review and discuss budgets for special revenue funds, enterprise funds, and a draft fee schedule. And then on December 9th, uh the city council will hold the truth and taxation hearing, adopt the final tax levy 25 revised budget and final 2026 budget. [7:32] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Um so uh an important step in our long range planning process is ensuring both uh um our capital improvement plan, financial management plan, and annual budget align with core strategies the city council and city leadership team identified in the 2024 strategic plan uh which are a safe and welcoming community, maintain small town feel, engaged community, responsive leadership, complete community, support redevelopment to revitalize local economy and business districts, excellent services and values, and dedicated and supportive uh supported city staff. And so several of the strategic plans uh goals and objectives relate to uh financial planning um and capital improvements on our operational budget. And so just I'm not going to read all of them, but they're listed on the screen. [8:18] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Um and so staff has prepared uh a budget which aligns with the strategic plan and needs of the community. Uh two things that we look at when analyzing um well when preparing our annual budget um requires analysis of two fund balance related percentages. And so the first one is the state auditor recommendation of keeping a minimum of five months operating costs or 42% on hand and accessible over um to cover unanticipated costs. The fund balance um projected for December 31, 2025 covers 47.13%. [9:04] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Um and I'll get into this in a later slide, but um forecasting ahead um some using some fund balance for the 2026 um operating budget um at the end of 27 uh or at the end of 26 would leave 43% um of estimated 2027 expenditures. The second fund balance analysis is tracking the fund balance to ensure funds are available to pay claims in the first half of each year. We have an anticipated fund balance for December 31, 2025 uh at 75%. And then again conservatively projecting uh the use of fund balance in 2026 uh calculates about 64.5% to cover 2027 projected revenue. [9:52] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: the 2026 preliminary budget. Some not or the notable revenue changes include uh franchise fee revenues are decreasing. Non-business license and permit revenues are trending down with the completion of the school district facility projects and no new significant development projects planned currently planned. Local government aid or LGA uh funds have been retained in the general fund to reduce uh to reduce the proposed tax levy increase. Um we last year uh I believe last year received a DNR shade tree grant to assist with uh funding the removal of emerald ashbor um and tree replacement. Uh that's been adjusted to match the planned use of funds. So that's shown in revenues and expenditures, but it is notable. So, we're calling it out here. Ambulance revenues have increased um are projected to increase based on 2024 actual and 2025 year-to-ate receipts, which is a good thing. And interest revenues have uh are projected to increase based on current year's receipts. [11:02] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Notable expenditure changes uh include salary adjustments per the adopted pay plan and labor labor contracts um including benefit factors, a 3% cost of living adjustment, and just please note the public works labor contract is currently open for negotiations. Um additional personnel, which I'll get to in a upcoming slide, forestry management. So this is the DNR shade tree um emerald dashboard grant uh that was previously uh or discussed in the slide previously. Highway 61 median maintenance and required additional safety measures in order in order to conduct that work website hosting and federal ADA compliance add-ons. Um that's related again to our website um and a mandate that we must comply with. and then uh also mandate required Minnesota family leave program expenditures um have been included uh with a 50/50 cost share between the city um and its employees. [12:09] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: So the 2026 preliminary levy reflects a 9.46 or a $1.3 million increase over the 2025 levy. I will note the city council held a work session uh I think it was August 19th uh where staff presented a 9.97% uh levy increase. So that um has been decreased uh since that time with the removal of uh the communications specialist uh position. So making up that 9.46% or $1.3 million. Um we have it broken down on the on the slide to just full transparency where that where that goes. So 6.84% of that increase is for general operations uh which includes uh personnel and benefit expenses. Miss Kinspatter could give you the exact breakdown. Um but about $600,000 of that $946,000 is uh for public safety personnel uh labor um previously approved labor agreements which would mean then roughly $300,000 is is the increase for other operation or for operations and non-union personnel. [13:24] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Uh 1.75% for debt service related to the 2025 street reconstruction project. That's our uh division and 12th project that was just finished as well as the the equipment certificate for the replacement of a fire truck uh that we issued earlier this year. Um .27% uh for the public safety facility debt service. So it's just $37,000 more um coming on the books from that previous project. and then .6% or $79,000 for one IT technician. Um I will note that two additional firefighter positions have also been included in the 2026 uh preliminary um budget, but funding comes there there is no uh direct tax levy impact in 26 because we have redirected um funding expenditures from um part-time personnel to full-time personnel. So um calling that out but it is not uh a reason for the tax levy increase. [14:32] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: So when we take at take a look at uh the estimated tax levy impacts and these are estimates um but our taxable market value um in White Bear Lake has grown by 3.31%. This is a little bit difficult to read on the screen but it is included in your packet. Um so and then the net tax capacity is grown by 3.79%. Again the total tax levy is growing by 9.46%. But it is worth noting um that the city—no city in the state uh sets values for um uh for homes uh that's done by the county. And so if there were no change to uh market value of a property, that levy increase would truly feel like um 5.76%. And then the city tax capacity rate will be at 32% under this budget. [15:23] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: When we look at White Bear Lake compared to some surrounding communities, our revenue collection comparisons, um this is this is where we fall. Um so this is a comparison of revenue per capita with comparable communities um throughout the state um mainly in the metro area. This includes 26 preliminary levies of those other cities which of course are subject to change. Um, White Bear Lake has a greater population um than some of these cities, yet a much smaller tax levy. This means that our per capita revenue collection is at again at the bottom of the list here um at $669. And then the next closest is Shoreview at 684, but their population is 27,000. It also is worth noting that in 2025, in 2024, and in 2023, we were also at the bottom of this list. [16:31] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: When we take those same cities and just look at their tax levy, um this chart shows five years of levy history for comparable cities, including the estimate or including their preliminary levy increases for 26. Um again, you can see here on the screen that White Bear Lake remains right at the bottom with where we have historically been with these comparable communities. Although we are catching up, um our proposed levy increase is still less than what New Brighton's was last year and the same as what Shoreview's was in 2023. [17:10] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: So when we look at White Bear Lake alone, if this pie chart, you could think of it as $1. And so where does where does your property tax dollar go? And this is something that we we always include in our newsletter um that'll be included in this fall's newsletter. But um several entities um assess taxes to properties. And so for every tax dollar paid, approximately 22 cents of that dollar goes to the city of White Bear Lake. Um the other you know the remainder is then divided among Ramsey or Washington counties, the school district, other agencies such as Met Council, the mosquito control district um or watersheds and and water management organizations. So we're in that blue um the blue section there and that's 22 cents um for every dollar of property taxes that someone pays is what the city would receive. [17:57] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: And when so going back here, when we just look at our budget, so just the blue section of the pie chart, where do your annual city uh property taxes go to White Bear Lake? So where does that 22 cents go? Um, I recognize this is a little bit hard uh to read, so bear with me, but in 2025, the median home value in White Bear Lake uh for taxes payable next year is $349,000, which again, that is not set by the city. That is set by the county auditor. So, next year, that median home value would pay $1,074.85 to the city for the entire year in its property tax payment. And so, uh, for that price, you know, that that that property owner receives exceptional quality of life, uh, in White Bear Lake, in my opinion, of course, and, uh, 24/7 police access, 24/7 fire and EMS, street lighting, snow plowing, city publications, access to city staff and elected officials, parks, um, and recreation services. So this pie chart um shows how our budget uh delineates out amongst public safety and general government and um and and whatnot. So well over I want to say it's about 60% of our budget is is related to uh public safety. Um, so tonight's uh staff's recommendation tonight is that the city council adopt the attached resolution in your packet um approving the tax levy as presented um and setting the truth and taxation hearing for December 9th um at 7 p.m. here in this room at city hall. [19:58] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: The 2026 preliminary levy must be set no later than the September 23rd city council meeting. Um, so while you don't have to set it tonight, you do have to set it by September 23rd because we do have to certify it to the counties uh by September 30th. And I know council knows this, but just for those who are watching, the city council may reduce the levy before final adoption in December. Um, but you may not, the city council may not increase it uh at that time. So with that, uh, mayor and council, I will, uh, the finance director and I will stand for questions. [20:34] Mayor Dan Lewis: Thank you. Thank you, Miss Crawford. Um, I'll just first say thank you to Miss Kinsfodder, our city manager, and all the other city staff that that uh put a lot of time and effort into this. I think we had a really good work session last month, a good vibrant debate, and um I think the consensus was probably with the the same as our average resident, which is provide the best services as frugally as possible. And I think you've delivered another budget that that effectively does that. So, I don't have any fundamental qualms with this. As you indicated, Miss Crawford, this is not adopting the budget or the levy tonight. It's setting the ceiling, and we'll have some further discussions. [21:14] Mayor Dan Lewis: But, um, I do want to compliment you on sharpening your pencils and have it come down about a half a percentage since the work session. So, I'm sure others on the council will have a thought or two. Um, but overall, I don't have any glaring objections or or issues with this. So, council, questions or comments for Miss Crawford? Council member Walsh. [21:34] Council Member Walsh: Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. We could go back to the slide on paid family leave. Just a couple questions on the paid family leave. The first one is just I'm I'm assuming that we're going to split the cost between city employees, so the employees pay half the the tax. And so, the second question is, have we looked at alternatives to being in the state paid family leave program? Um, I've actually been surprised at how many businesses I'm running across around the state that are going to because you you don't have to participate in the state's plan if you can jump through the hoops, meet the requirements that the state plan is providing for your employees. [22:07] Council Member Walsh: So, more businesses than I thought would do this are doing this. That's the experience in other states, too. Upwards like almost 30% of businesses may do it themselves. And so, I wonder if the League of Minnesota cities or anybody's looking at this. And I I actually heard this week that Hennepin County might be uh looking into doing it on their own. And and the business owner I've been talking to, they're going to do it cheaper than the 0.88 or whatever the tax is at the moment. Um cheaper than the cost so we can actually save money if we can. I don't know if the league's doing anything on this or if we're all just think, oh, we're just going to go into the state program. [22:44] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Mayor, Council Member Walsh, thank you for uh that statement and question. I want to say that I need to do some digging and get back to you. Um, but what I do know is from my understanding that we we have the option to go with the state administered program or go through a private um broker. We are choosing to go through a private broker because it is cheaper, but we don't have an option to not be part of PFMLA. So, that's what I know, but I I can do some further digging and get back to you. [23:10] Council Member Walsh: Yeah, I I'm a little confused because if we go through the broker thing, then we're not—we shouldn't be subject to the to the tax. So, maybe that's not the plan. I guess that's not on the slide. We're going to split the cost with employees 50/50. So, that's that's interesting. I guess maybe so we're already doing that. We're already operating out of the state program then and the tax then. So, what are we saving money? Is it—I guess how do we know? We'd have to—well, I guess you could tell what's every employee times .88 or whatever it is is what the cost of the state's going to be. Are we saving money? Is it cheaper? [23:51] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: If I could do some digging and get back to you um because I don't want to misspeak. [23:51] Council Member Walsh: Yeah, a little more a little more detail on that be great in the next, you know, month or so as we lead up to the final vote. Thank you. [24:09] Council Member Edberg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, this is uh I wasn't aware of the opportunity for a broker. I was assuming that when you we opted out, there would be an opportunity for self insurance. In other words, we would agree to set aside money out of our operating budgets um over time rather than paying into a the state administered fund. So if when you do the research if you could um get a sense of what the distinctions might be and and what the options are. I'm only skinde knowledgeable about how this is going to be implemented. So if it's self administered if it's through a third party but is that is not the state or a state I think are the three options that I was assuming there might be but anyway if you could address that I'd welcome that too. [24:56] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Yeah I will do some more digging and get the council some additional information on all that. Thank you. [25:12] Mayor Dan Lewis: Yeah I'm just going to maybe throw that out there. I look forward to getting the research but from what I've looked into this, it's not quite as simple as a an outright opt out. Then that was my understanding too up until literally this week and it looks like it really more is a opt out for the administration, but the funds still end up flowing into the state. So it's not as cut and dry as a opt out and go private. Um, but if I'm wrong on that or if there is an option, I think that's what the council is saying let's look into. So look forward to that research. All right. Any other questions on the preliminary budget comments? All right. Very good. We have a resolution before us uh to adopt the preliminary tax levy. I'd entertain a motion to approve that resolution. [26:01] Council Member: So move. [26:01] Council Member: Second. [26:01] Mayor Dan Lewis: I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion on that? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. [26:01] Council Members: I. [26:01] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any opposed? Motion carries. The resolution is adopted. All right. Item 8B, United States Post Office Potential Retail Relocation Letter of Opposition. Miss Crawford, are you taking this? [26:20] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: I am, mayor. Uh so the United States Postal Service recently mailed over 10,000 postcards to customers within uh the 55110 zip code to inform them of their proposal to relocate retail services from Fifth Street to another location within 2 miles a radius within a 2-mile radius and ask for feedback for public feedback. Um, city staff, uh, and I have received an overwhelming amount of community feedback in opposition of that potential relocation. The post office has been conveniently located in downtown White Bear Lake since the 1930s. Uh, it was located previously on Third Street in a couple of different locations um, uh, prior to the construction of its current location in about 1976. [27:14] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: The current location serves as a retail hub for customers with post office boxes, a retail counter, a drive up, a dropbox, and services in addition to serving as a warehouse for mail and sorting, mail sorting and distribution. So given the history of the post office's location in downtown White Bear Lake, convenience for retail services for residents, visitors and local businesses, and the economic benefit of its location in downtown staff has prepared a letter of opposition to the potential relocation for the city council to consider. Um the draft letter is in your packet. Um, it kind of goes over what I just said, but then it says at the end, the city opposes the relocation of retail services and respectfully requests the post office team partner with the city to find other viable solutions which jointly meet the needs of our community and United States Postal Service. So, that is what is in the council's packet uh for consideration. [28:18] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Um, I will note since drafting this uh letter, I have finally been able to uh be in touch with someone at the post office who um you know is on the uh real estate side uh for for the federal government. Um and I've been authorized by them to share that they are considering a space within one block of US Bank. Um, but I'm not—I don't believe that that would include um the warehouse portion. I think that would be a positive that would be only retail. So, there's a chance that there could be two uh post office locations um in downtown, one being um the warehouse portion only and then one being retail. So, um that's what uh that's what I know uh since drafting this. I do still with that information, I do still recommend the council adopt the resolution authorizing the letter um and and seeing if there are ways that we can partner with them to learn and understand um potential ramifications uh with relocation or what it means to existing businesses or tenants. Thank you. [29:31] Mayor Dan Lewis: Thank you, Ms. Crawford. Um, so I just want to clarify, so I think I want to clarify my understanding, which is the the working proposal is the post office is considering vacating retail, but the building itself will still be owned by the US Postal Service and it'll operate solely as a warehouse distribution center. Is that correct? [29:55] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Uh, that's correct. [29:55] Mayor Dan Lewis: Okay. So, in terms of what messaging we send to the post office, whether we oppose it, to me, there's one terrible worst case scenario, and that's remove retail, but still just have a fulfillment center in what is prime real estate downtown White Bear. So, I'm fine opposing the removal of retail um as a that's better than what the current proposal is. I personally wouldn't die on that hill if the US Postal Service wanted to divest their position in the property and open up a huge space for different development. Um, so in terms of what's before us, I support that. I think we've received a lot of emails and input from the community that that is a an asset and a benefit having retail right downtown White Bear. Um, so I think we should fight for that for for however far it gets us. I think um as I said at the last council meeting, I don't want to—I don't want us to overplay what our hand is in the ability to influence federal government, but if we don't write a letter and try, we for sure won't get the resolution that we're looking for. So, uh, for city staff that maybe is engaging in a dialogue beyond just a letter, I would be open to if retail has to leave, then the whole post office there at that location leaves in its entirety. And then at least we have an opportunity for redevelopment in downtown White Bear. That could provide some pretty cool—some pretty cool options. But failing that, I'd like retail to stay. That's where I stand on that. council thoughts or what we would like to do. Council member West. [31:27] Council Member West: Um I support the letter and just a a quick note that um in the letter the email is incorrect. So I would just recommend if we accept it that it's um corrected. [31:46] Council Member Edberg: Thank you, Mayor. Um so at this table multiple folks have—we have had our caves about federal activity, federal um expense, the the volume of federal taxes etc etc. And so for us to um oppose efforts at efficiency just because our ox is gored, but they're trying to relocate and get better greater efficiency for their larger operations. I I I just want to call out that for us to um oppose without addressing the underlying how do they do their job better and uh be more efficient at government. That's a conundrum and we try and do that in our own operations. Um so I'm I'm of mixed mind on how to message that. I think that requires uh more nuanced messaging than a straight out opposition. [32:54] Council Member Edberg: I think the retention—so the conversation has been we want to retain the convenience uh and the reason downtown for people to come downtown. Okay, that's that's and so a retail location um in downtown White Bear. I think that makes sense. um as a as a strategy for a vital downtown. And I'm of mixed mind on whether or not what what to include. So I I don't know that mayor, your your preference is exactly where the council sits um and where the community sits in terms of redevelopment and so forth. I'm not sure we'd want to lead with that, but to call for an engagement in conversation to help uh to for our city to engage more directly in trying to find solutions. Yeah, I think we should send a letter. I think we should invite that. But I I'm I'm troubled by us purely saying go go gore somebody else's ax. So, um um it's it's it's not clear. [34:10] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any other thoughts on this? Okay. We have a resolution before us authorizing the sending of the letter as written. [34:10] Council Member: Move to approve. [34:27] Mayor Dan Lewis: Do I have a second? [34:27] Council Member: Second. [34:27] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any further discussion on this? [34:27] Council Member Edberg: Um, so when we talked about city manager, when you talk about overwhelming feedback, since most of our topics do not draw any feedback, is overwhelming five, 10, 100, a thousand—get us get my head in the right ballpark. [34:46] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Mayor, uh, Council Member Edberg, uh, our staff does a phenomenal job at, um, handling frontline communications, and this is one that I would say, well, I shouldn't, I I think that almost exclusively came to me. So, to me, for me to be receiving I would say probably a dozen between emails um, or phone calls um, was a lot uh, for me to receive on this topic. in addition to reading letters to the editor, hearing conversations um around town and from you know some some on council sharing feedback that they had received from the public. So for me it was quite a bit of uh feedback. [35:31] Council Member Edberg: Fair enough. I I'm not quite sure that constitutes overwhelming but I do it it is significant. It's so again nuance. I'm I'm not going to edit your letter, but in our conversations, 12 people talking about something is less than we less feedback than we get in some of our hearings on a variety of topics. So, it's like how we interpret that and what meaning we put is unaw. [36:04] Mayor Dan Lewis: All those in favor say I. [36:04] Council Members: I. [36:04] Mayor Dan Lewis: Any opposed? Motion carries. The resolution is passed. Thank you, Miss Crawford. Item nine, discussion. We have nothing scheduled. Item 10, communications from the city manager. Miss Crawford, whenever you're ready. [36:20] City Manager Lindsey Crawford: Uh, thank you, mayor. Uh, this Saturday, uh, the 13th at 11:30 a.m. is a triad summer picnic at Podman Park. Um, anyone is welcome to attend that. I think the mayor and council received uh an invite for that. I will be there. I know police and fire will also be there. And then uh on Saturday, September 20th, uh from 9:00 a.m. to 1 p.m., the White Bear Area Chamber of Commerce is conducting their 35th annual adopt a highway cleanup. They have the one-mile stretch along Highway uh 61. Uh it is also World Cleanup Day. So, um if anyone's interested, please meet at the chamber office. I'll be there doing that, too. Um they'll have reflective vests, trash bags, uh litter pickers, gloves, etc. Um and then of course just wear appropriate clothing. So that's what I have tonight. Thank you. [37:12] Mayor Dan Lewis: Thank you, Miss Crawford. Council, any questions for city manager? Seeing none. All right. All right. Item 11, close session to consider an offer to purchase real property located at 2224 County Road E. I have a memorandum in front of me that I'm going to read. And as I'm doing that, our two guests in the audience, we eventually will be closing the session. All right. We are now uh we now need to go into close session pursuant to Minnesota statute section 13D.05 subdivision 3C3, which authorizes the council to develop or consider offers or counter offers for the purchase or sale of real or personal property. The address of the property to consider an offer for purchase is 2224 county road E. [37:54] Mayor Dan Lewis: Therefore, I request a motion to go into close session pursuant to Minnesota statute section 13D.05 subdivision 3C3 to discuss the above described matters. Do I have that motion? [37:54] Council Member: So move. [37:54] Council Member: Second. [38:10] Mayor Dan Lewis: I have a second. All those in favor say I. [38:10] Council Members: I. [38:10] Mayor Dan Lewis: And we are now in close session. Thank you.