City of Corcoran Planning Commission Meeting July 2, 2024 - Part 3

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or 600 purpose of these types of ordinances is to implement the comprehensive plan um zoning that's one of them and um something like plat develop oh really close I I'm plat you can give it to me anyway I I I would say we're pretty darn subdivision subdivision I would say yes you get the points for that uh cuz that it it does rule How We Do plats so um back you keeping track you got her okay all right and then next one is you then again I get to go again okay all right L do planning Basics again for 400 okay this document serves as the basis for Community Development the zoning ordinance and land use regulations o you got the police comprehensive plan yes yep wow that was official to choose hope nobody hears it outside this room lindsley's used to hearing um applications one for 400 400 okay this phrase refers to the practice of zoning a single piece of property out of context with its surroundings and it should be avoided what is spot zoning Lind you should get that I I was slow to the draw there right go ahead do applications one for 600 okay this type of zoning ordinance Amendment changes boundaries to a district map Amendment yep yep okay next one then um Double Jeopardy for 800 oh wait what oh doesn't that mean we have to write in or something ah I don't okay yeah let's skip that whole thing okay yeah that isn't how we've done it we haven't done the right okay okay okay so double Jey for 800 800 okay this application type is useful for difficult sites with many natural resources oh maybe I don't want that one is it PUD yes okay nice nice nice nice okay and then you go and choose the next one oh shoot well let's see what's under applications 2 for 400 this type of application is similar to a cup but it is temporary in nature iup yes interus and next one for you then did you do double jeopardy what was that uh it's just like a category yeah it's just a category and you get double points for those questions I'm going to try procedures because I don't think anybody has yet okay um for 200 200 okay does that make it an easier question when it's a smaller number I try to do it that way yeah um this nice get to hear the real official great job and then you to choose the what was the answer open meeting oh um procedures were 400 okay this guide was first published in 1876 but remains relevant to running meeting Rogers yeah we'll take it we'll take it Rogers is the city to the north he you get to choose the next one again okay um procedures for 600 okay this Minnesota Law requires governmental bodies to decide on land use requests within a specific time frame or it is automatically approved now what do they call it 60 days go I don't know 60 rule yeah is exactly what it's called all right and then you choose the next one um applications two for 600 two for 600 okay this type of application is considered a zoning relief mechanism oh God I took my tongue I can't think of it you didn't tell us we're were going to get tested I did at the beginning of the presentation um I don't think it's a type of application though but I was going to say a variance yes oh okay oh good one it's just worded oddly well I tried to make it not like I tried to make it not too hard but you know not like crazy easy okay uh and then so you get to choose the next one question oh yeah uh double Jey for 1600 okay the city of corkin will provide high quality public services and a cost effective responsible and professional manner in order to create a preferred environment to live work play and conduct what is the mission of the city of Corran yes perfect very nice good job you guys nailed it so you are on the board now big time on the board big time thees are off and running Let's Do dble Double Jeopardy for 2,000 sure uh this Minnesota court case provides an ex excellent example of what Commissioners and counselors should not do prior to a public was it ho oh yeah versus what city Minneapolis very good it was worth 2,000 so I know you choose the next one okay um Double Jeopardy for 1,200 economic considerations do not constitute this variant standard is it C or is it P or is it so it's a it's the standard that you need to be able to get a variance burden approve burden of of to uh bur of proof burden of they have to pro pro of the burden of proof is to show this oh yeah um I know can't think it a hardship yeah yeah really close practical difficulty now make sure you dush I said the wrong one and me too me too we hadn't done that in the past she doesn't she doesn't get credit for it oh competitive over here I like [Applause] it okay that's where we're at we're Cut Throat cour yeah I guess so and I only guessed about historical background for 800 okay the city this city was the first to adopt aeh sorry New York City yes y go ahead and choose the next one applications two for a th000 okay applications two all right this type of application promotes creativity and negotiation in exchange for flexibility you have you have it no I'm not no it's not fair you go ahead okay a PUD and you choose the next one um planning basics for a thousand EK shoe marker said that the way of society uses this material resource will determine its future land use and then choose the next one uh what was that one that one was uh Bas for a, so we just have 800 left under okay I'll go for 800 okay this type of decision making describes when the commission is interpreting and implying the ordinance what is discretion uh no not sorry so it's not I'll I'll give a hint it's not judicial but it's oh ringing in Lindsay no somebody else do extra judicial extra judicial quasi judicial yeah legislative no it's the claz you oh shoot I'm WR deduct me dedu me I didn't buzz in my room yeah I was say you didn't Buzz okay well someone can buzz I suppose then who's going to buzz CIA gets the point okay no she said claz but I had gotten it wrong my first rhyme well I got it wrong and I didn't buz um so nobody gets no get get pick another question good all right it's back to you harre you get to pick again okay historical background 600 okay uh this country regulated light and circulation and you chose uh historical background for 400 uh the ability of states to limit an individual's rights for the interest of the community what is police Powers nice uh historical background for 200 Dain crowded living conditions led to this historical event which in turn led to the black um procedures for a thousand this type of planning application is subject to a 120-day rule roll instead of the usual 60-day roll that one close though it starts with the same letter what is preliminary plat next one uh applications one for 800 this type of application includes these details the proposed Street and lot layouts proposed easements I think you preliminary plan yep okay procedures for 800 the approval procedure for this type of application involves four actions with an oh I didn't go over this of course with an ordinance to reone required first uh so the approval procedure for this type of application involves um a ordinance to rezone a resolution with findings effect support that resoning a um development plan and a preliminary pl we have to say what type of application that is y so you first reone and then you have a said it too much just kind of throw it out there for oh oh uh applications 1 a th000 okay uh this type of application is for an anticipated and allowed use that may require additional stipulation see yep nice one she likes the acronyms well I worked at a consulting firm all right um procedures for procedures are done oh they're all done these four okay let's do another Double Jeopardy 400 400 that's the only is that the only one left yep under that one uh the first use of zoning occurred as a result of this historic Industrial Revolution all right okay applications for two for 800 okay a conditional home occupation license is an example of this type of application inter news yes uh applications two for 200 the city has some discretion when reviewing these three types of applications but generally these should be approved if they meet pre-established criteria so this was the yellow area of the triangle subdivision that's one of them coordinates oh the one that she thinks should be green yeah variance variances there was one more yellow one oh gosh you can do it take T zoning ordinance Amendment acony I'll give you okay you know I I Surrender my answer somebody else can take it I don't know what the third one is I don't know got the first somebody I gave got you halfway there I don't know see p yes I had this like is 200 my second yeah come on this is like a 1,200 for sure I will keep that in mind you only have one left Lindsay okay applications one for 200 the city has the most discretion when establishing and approving changes to these three three guiding documents I don't remember three guiding documents we have three guiding documents we have the basis and then we have the tools to implement the comp plan the zoning ordinance and the subdivision yes nice all right we are who won commissioner h I thought she W she kept on throwing with afteron you should teacher look at all the information we retained I'm so happy with how much information you guys are sh yeah it makes it helpful cuz it's like sometimes I feel like I'm just rambling up here especially when I get T ti so thank you we'll have a plaque for you next meeting I just want a certificate then we can move on to the next item agenda that wraps up our training portion and um thank you very much let me know if any questions come up thanks for the time that you put into that and the way that you uh tried to help us retain it in a in a fun and competitive way I always like to see how competitive people get um so next up is planning project update is there anything that needs to speak to that if not I'm happy to move to the next one typically I don't it's just more of a place for you guys to ask questions yeah the only um I I have one question but does anybody else have any questions uh related to the planning project update that you get no no okay my question is um with the Karan Orchards preliminary plat is that like after a period of time if something is stagnant does it fall off or is this is there wind that this going to come up again oh K Orchards definitely that one that's the one on 30 and the only reason I'm asking is now that hope has gone through um that I think that the proximity of that plat to the hope uh just has brought my like cuz I remember when they brought the concept plan through or whatever and it was decided that the terms for the open space and preservation hadn't been met anyway but considering how close it's going to be to now a higher density area I think that that shed some different light on that application so I was just wondering if it's coming through uh I do anticipate that it'll become a complete application fairly soon potentially as soon as August but we don't have the documents at this time to save you that for certain okay and there is no ex expiration of time that the applicant has it typically if we have an application that has been sitting with no movement for a year then we will give them a time we'll give them a deadline to before we close it out and then they have to resubmit after that point okay all right and then counselor Von Camp do you have anything you wanted to share or does anybody have any questions for I'm sorry you're comments were in regards to which number um yeah it is oh 2 21 y oh 21 okay and that is that that old apple orchard the the property right on 30 with a big field and then the you know which one it is I I do okay sorry if there aren't any questions for councelor Von Camp then uh we can move to the next step unless someone wanted to okay great job everybody congratulations Natalie again on the on the uh position changing stuff congrats to chair Vice chair welcome everybody it's nice to see a full group up here please no one understand your opinions and your thoughts matter a lot to all five of us the mayor and the four council members we take a lot of those things under advisement and we listen a lot and uh we got a lot ahead of us coming um comments from Sicilia on trails and those kind of things our biggest issue related to that right now correct me if I'm wrong Natalie if you know is the cost of those maintenances and equipment we aren't there yet um the the the sidewalk along 19 I know it very well I'm disappointed there's snowmobile traffic and stuff tearing that tire up and in the winter time this last winter wasn't bad but uh I do believe that's still Three Rivers Trail that's not oh over to us yet they would they would maintain it yeah you would think they would just to keep the snowmobiles off they they haven't been and again it's we're out in the rural side I'm I'm close to where you are and stuff and I see all that stuff too but a lot of it is it's a significant amount of burden on Public Works to do those things and such so it's all stuff we're trying to figure out how to do it and keep our taxes flat um it's a huge expenditure and stuff but we are listening and thinking and trying to figure out ways to do this your volunteerism related to tractors and stuff I'll apply my own Road numerous times because I always seem to be the last one blow it out significant amount of maintenance issues related to tractors breakage of loaders and uh back blades and stuff so it it it's a big deal when it comes time for all of that stuff so so my husband actually built a cross country ski Trail groomer couple few Winters ago and he got permission from um Deb wian who lives was been enourage and he groomed over there and we got permission from kareni before we sold those lots and we groomed over there um now there's a proposed Trail that's going to run along Rush Creek on the west side down to 10 and then hook up to 19 and then run along the border I think of this um ster Farmstead neighborhood which we're in and that would be great if he could get permission to groom that since we don't have Ken property anymore but I don't know how we we may not have way to get over to there from our prop and again a lot of those issues the private land owners those kind of things you need to ask those permiss and yeah and and we have in the past so this one though I don't know if that is going to be a city Trail it's going to be a soft surface trail that runs along the creek we're talking about the wood ship Trail yeah um yeah I don't it's by the you know part of the public so that's going to be a wood chip Trails I don't know know how doable it would be for that to really be maintained in the winter um because it's meant to be more of an interpretive Trail um but we can certainly talk to Kevin Manson that' be as far as um well I think it' be a large discussion with the council too but just trying to figure out what Logistics he would need to work through um and if that's even a trail that um would be able to handle a tractor the he just takes his snowmobile and snowmobile dags drags a gromer behind it yeah again a lot of things on the planning update on our plate and stuff like that our staff is doing a great job um responding and doing things and uh in many cases getting caught up and and a lot of changes going on but you're part of something pretty cool folks and the openness to the change and the openness to new things we're seeing a lot of things that we haven't seen in the past so great minds good job thank you and then the last thing is and I won't usually go over it unless there are any concerns that need to be talked about but I just want to make note of it because it is commissioner Yang's first time but the liaison calendar is always listed at the end of the agenda and that's just indicating the meetings that we um serve as a liaison to the council you can be in person or uh if you wanted to just listen via Zoom but if there's ever date that you can't make um and you don't have anybody's direct email you can always reach out to Natalie um but we can make swaps within um so don't feel uh it just goes in a straight rotation but again if there's one you can't make just let us know and I have the next one so um with that if there isn't anything that needs to be talked about in the liaison calendar then I will just uh entertain a motion for adjournment of tonight's meeting could I ask one question I'm not sure if this is the right form or not and I'm sure Natalie is aware of it but there is a meeting on July 10th over at bellweather regarding Oswald farm development oh okay I don't know if you were aware of that but I thought I is it being led by the developer I I believe so oh okay so it might just be him trying to do some Outreach Shir yeah should should I not attend that or should I oh you can abous that's that's something that a lot of our developers have not done and it's something that we've kind of pushed open communication transparency all of those things and and I think I believe that developer is all of that and then some yeah yeah you really want people to go they're they're they're really trying to do some Outreach they've already gone because I don't believe they're planning on coming in under a planned unit development there is no requirement for them to do this um so that's that's why I don't think I've been alerted to it so that's great to see that he's trying to go above and beyond to well I just want to make sure that that I operate correctly you yes that's absolutely appropriate be a citizen okay all right give input okay great that's what they're looking for okay is it part of bell weather yeah I I'm part of that 55 plus Community okay great Community there a lot of fun there and then on the heels of that do you want to make a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting I do I do thank you I I make that motion I'll okay all right Lynn seconds all those in favor say I anyone opposed no all right with that we adjourn tonight's meeting