>> OKAY, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, WE'RE READY TO BEGIN THE TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING, TODAY, OCTOBER 2nd. I'M GOING TO START BY ALLOWING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND AND ROOM. MY NAME IS DANTE ANDERSON, I'M THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. DRIGGS WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. AND HE'S THE CHAIR OF THE COMM COMMITTEE. >> MALCOLM GRAHAM, DISTRICT 2, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> BRAXTON WINSTON, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> WHY DON'T WE START AT THE TOP AND HAVE EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES? ALSO, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ON LINE AS WELL, I SEE MS. MOLINA AND MS. JOHNSON, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURS YOURSELVES? >> MARJORIE MOLINA. >> THANK YOU, MS. MOLINA. MS. JOHNSON. >> THIS IS RENEE JOHNSON, DISTRICT 4. >> EXCELLENT. LET'S START AT THE TOP OF THE TABLE AND HAVE EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, QUICKLY? >> LYNN ALEXANDER, TRANSPORTATION. >> BRENT CAGLE, INTERIM C.A.T.S. CEO. >> YOLONDA JONES, PLANNING STAFF. >> ALYSON CRAIG, PLANNING DIRECTOR. >> A LISIA OSBORNE, PLANNING. >> DAVE PETTINE, PLANNING. >> WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES OR ARE WE READY TO GO? OKAY. LET'S MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE A JAM-PACKED AGENDA TODAY, WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH. I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MR. CAGLE SO HE CAN PROVIDE A C.A.T.S. UPDATE. >>BRENT CAGLE: YES, THANK YOU, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF ON THIS. SO JUST CONTINUING WITH PROVIDING UPDATES TO THE COMMITTEE, LAST MONTH, THERE WAS NOT A WORK GROUP MEETING, SO NO UPDATE FROM THE MONTH, THE ONE UPDATE ON THE WORK GROUP IS NEXT OR YES, IN NOVEMBER, WE ARE PLANNING THE WORK GROUP IS PLANNING TO MEET AND THAT MEETING WILL INCLUDE A TOUR, AND CONVERSATIONS WITH C.A.T.S. EMPLOYEES. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE TIMING AND SCHEDULING OF THAT MEETING NOW, BUT IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE IN NOVEMBER, PROBABLY ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT TOUR. >>DANTE ANDERSON: EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MR. CAGLE. WE ALSO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER WHO JUST JOINED US AS WELL. AND NOW I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MS. CRAIG AND MR. PETTINE TO PROVIDE A UDO UPDATE. >> GREAT, GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE'VE GOT TWO PLANNING ITEMS TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE REGARDING THE UDO TEXT AMENDMENTS AND ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW STAFF IS EVALUATING JUST AS A BRIEF OVERVIEW, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF TEXT AMENDMENTS APPROVED ALREADY BY COUNCIL. RELATED TO LANDFILLS AND A LARGE CLEANUP ITEM, WE'VE GOT A PENDING ONE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY AND OUR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THAT ONE IS PENDING. IT IS SIMILAR TO AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS REQUESTED LAST YEAR, AND DENIED BY COUNCIL, WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL USES IN CENTER PLACE TYPES AS WELL AS DRIVE-THRUS AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION REGARDING DRIVE-THRUS AND SO WE HAVE REMOVED THAT ELEMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT IS PENDING TODAY. NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT BIG TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS FILED ON SEPTEMBER THE 25th, THIS IS OUR SECOND LARGE CLEANUP TEXT AMENDMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS -- THESE ARE TECHNICAL CLARIFICATIONS, THIS IS NOT POLICY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS AMENDMENT THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BY OUR OWN AND BY THE COMMUNITY. NO MATTER WHETHER IT'S POLICY OR TECHNICAL, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMUNITIES SO THERE'S A VIRTUAL SESSION SCHEDULED IN OCTOBER, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING THIS FORWARD FOR PUBLIC HEARING IN NOVEMBER. NEXT SLIDE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS TECHNICAL AMENDMENT, THERE'S -- WE'VE ADDED SOME TIME PERIODS FOR TEMPORARY USES, WE'VE PROVIDED SOME CLARIFICATIONS REGARDING THE AFFORDABILITY PERIODS, WE'VE ADDED A NEW -- A NEW USE, WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE USES ARE ALLOWED AND CREATING A NEW USE IN THE UDO TABLE OF USES. WE'VE RELOCATED SOME THINGS, THESE ARE ALL JUST VERY ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNICAL IN NATURE. NEXT SLIDE. AND I WANTED TO SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES ON SOME OF THESE ADJUSTMENTS AS THEY ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE REACHING THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, AND SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE'VE ADDED OR HAVE CLARIFIED IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE RELATED TO CODE ENFORCE. MENT, WE THOUGHT WE HAD STRONG ENOUGH LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY COULD ENFORCE WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR VEHICLE PARKING AND STORAGE. DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES ARE NEW, AND POTENTIALLY GETTING AROUND SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS, SO WE ARE REFINING THOSE TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY THE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR PLEX BUILDINGS. MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBOR AREA ARE IMPORTANT, WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS NOT ALLOWED AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWING OUTDOORER ENTERTAINMENT, SU SUPPORTING. WE HAD A RECENT APPEAL OF THE SIDE WALL DECISION THAT OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR MADE, WE FELT AS THOUGH IT WAS CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE BUT THEY APPEALED THE DECISION WANTING TO ALLOW GREATER SIDE WALL HEIGHT, AND FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT. THE UDO BOARD RULED IN FAVOR OF STAFF. WHICH IS STILL WANTING -- THAT WAS UNCLEAR, WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT WHILE YOU CAN CREATE A HEIGHT PLANE WITH YOUR ROOF, YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH YOUR SIDE WALLS. AND THE THEN LASTLY, I WANTED TO SPEND A MINUTE ON DRIVE-THRUS. SO WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY REQUIREMENTS HERE, WE ARE JUST CLARIFYING THE INTENT OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE. SO TODAY IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF DRIVEWAYS, YOU'VE GOT A DRIVEWAY THAT IS AN ACCESSORY TO A PRINCIPLE USE, AND SO YOU'VE GOT A RESTAURANT OR A BANK WHERE PEOPLE GO INSIDE, OR THEY COULD DRIVE -- THEY COULD ENTER AND CONDUCT BUSINESS VIA DRIVE-THRU. YOU ALSO HAVE SOME ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE DRIVE-THRU ONLY, THEY DON'T HAVE A BUILDING WHERE YOU GO INSIDE. AND IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY, THEY'RE CALLED DRIVE-THRU FACILITY AND A DRIVE-THRU ESTABLISHMENT, I MYSELF COULD OFTEN FORGET WHICH ONE WAS WHICH. AND SO NOW WE WILL HAVE A DRIVE-THRU ESTABLISHMENT, AND AN ACCESSORY DRIVE-THRU, SO THE ACCESSORY DRIVE-THRU IS A DRIVE-THRU THAT IS ACCESSORY TO THE PRINCIPLE USE, SO WE HAVE CHANGED THE NAME. IT ALSO SAYS IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY THAT IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS, AND NEW DRIVE-THRU IS ONLY ALLOWED IF IT WAS ON THE SITE AS OF JUNE 1ST. WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ON THE SITE, IT HAS TO BE OPERATIONAL SO YOU CAN'T -- BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO USE LIGHT -- UTILIZE AN OLD DRIVE-THRU, IT HAD TO BE IN OPERATION. AND FINALLY, WE'VE -- IF IT IS A RESTAURANT, THAT IS THE PRINCIPLE USE WITH AN ACCESSORY DRIVE-THRU, IT HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 24 SEATS, WE HAD THAT IN THE OLD CODE, MORE SEATS THAN THAT, BUT CLARIFIED THAT A PRINCIPLE USE HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SEATS TO BE CATEGORIZED AS A PRINCIPLE USE. THOSE ARE THE LIMIT OF THE CHANGES, JUST A CLARIFICATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE -- OKAY SURE. >>ED DRIGGS: FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE, IN A MEETING. DRIVE-THRUS, YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC, SO WHILE YOU WERE HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION. >> CORRECT. >>ED DRIGGS: BUT IF ANYBODY WAS GOING TO SPEAK UP, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE YOU, SO. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: JUST SEEMS LIKE A TECHNICAL CORRECTION OF CHANGING OF NAMES, CERTAINLY DOESN'T GET TO THE LEVEL OF WORK THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET TO ON IT. BUT. >>ED DRIGGS: WELL, I ASSUMED THAT, BUT AS LONG AS YOU DON'T FEEL WE'RE WORSE OFF AS A RESULT OF THIS. WE'LL ADDRESS THE OTHER TOPICS AT A DIFFERENT TIME. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: CLARITY IN CODE IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED. >>ED DRIGGS: ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE THE MAN. THANK YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] >> THANK YOU. SO A FEW THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW, I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE REFERRAL THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON, THIS WOULD BE OF COURSE A POLICY AMENDMENT, THE OTHERS WITH THE ASTERISK ARE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW BUILD THAT WAS -- BILL THAT WAS PASSED. ADDITIONAL CLEANUP THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE DOING AS WE LEARN NEW THINGS FROM IMPLEMENTING THE ORDINANCE. AND THEN MENTIONING BEFORE THAT WE WILL HAVE A NEW CAMPUS ZONING DISTRICT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU ALL. ON THE NEXT SLIDE. AS I HAD MENTIONED, SEVERAL TIMES NOW, BUT WE ARE -- THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS WILL ALWAYS HAVE ENGAGEMENT AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS AND ADVERTISE THAT. NEXT SLIDE. AND WHEN THEY ARE POLICY-BASED, WE WILL HAVE A MORE COMPLEX APPROACH TO ENGAGEMENT, IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE TYPE OF AMENDMENT IS. BUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REACHING THE AUDIENCE THAT NEEDS TO BE ENGAGED ON THE TOPIC. ALL OF THESE POLICY AMENDMENTS WILL GO TO OUR UDO ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR FEEDBACK. BEFORE COMING TO THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL AND WE MAY EMPLOY OTHER METHODS AS NEEDED, SO. AND THAT'S IT FOR THAT TOPIC. >> THANK YOU, MS. CRAIG. MR. DRIGGS HAS JOINED US. OUR CHAIR, AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING. UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO CONTINUE. >>ED DRIGGS: THANK YOU, MADAM CO-CHAIR. COULD YOU SAY ALL OF THAT AGAIN? [ LAUGHTER ] I BELIEVE THESE ARE IN FACT TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS, APPRECIATE THIS ONGOING PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THE AREAS WHERE WE NEED CLARIFICATION. AND I'M TRUSTING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO. ANY THOUGHTS? SIR? >> GOOD. >>ED DRIGGS: WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> ( INAUDIBLE ). >>ED DRIGGS: YEAH, MS. JOHNSON, HI. >>RENEE JOHNSON: CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ED DRIGGS: YES. >>RENEE JOHNSON: OH, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I'VE GOT -- I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST ONE IS FOR MS. CRAIG. AND THE CHANGES. ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES SURROUNDING THE TREE ORDINANCE? >> THERE ARE NONE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. AND WHEN WE DO OR IF WE DO, WE'LL CERTAINLY BRING THEM BEFORE COUNCIL COMMITTEES, WHEN AND IF THEY'RE PROPOSED. >>RENEE JOHNSON: OKAY, THANKS. SO FOR MY COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A NEW TREE CANOPY REPORT, I BELIEVE IT'S OCTOBER. BUT I SHARE THE CONCERN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, OF TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF PRELIMINARY REPORT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HUGE REZONINGS THAT ENTAIL A LARGE TREE CANOPY, ONE IN DISTRICT 4, IS 150 ACRES, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE IN YOUR DISTRICT ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER DRIGGS. >>ED DRIGGS: 50 ACRES, YEAH. YEAH. UH-HUH. >>RENEE JOHNSON: YEAH, SO I'M TRYING TO -- AS A RESPONSIBLE STEWARD OF THE CITY'S RESOURCES, I'M TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF PRELIMINARY REPORT BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THE PETITION IN MY DISTRICT HAS BEEN DEFERRED TWICE. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HOPING TO GET A DECISION, SO I'M HOPING WE GET SOMETHING, BECAUSE THESE REPORTS, SUPPOSED TO BE READY IN SEPTEMBER. AND NOW, IT'S GOING BEEN -- BEEN DELAYED UNTIL OCTOBER. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND THEN FIND OUT A MONTH AFTERWARDS THAT THERE'S SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED IT. SO IF YOU ALL COULD SUPPORT ME AND ASKING THE PLANNING STAFF AND THE MANAGER FOR SOMETHING, WE NEED SOMETHING IN ORDER TO MAKE -- IN ORDER TO STAND IN FRONT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SAY THAT WE MADE AN INFORMED DECISION. THAT'S MY FIRST COMMENT I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE. AND SECONDLY, I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD GET AN UPDATE OR SOMETHING, EITHER TODAY OR TONIGHT FROM MR. CAGLE OR FROM MR. JONES ABOUT THE LETTER THAT THE MTC WROTE TO COUNCIL. WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE A PROACTIVE REPORT ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT AND WE NEED AN UPDATE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >>ED DRIGGS: SO MS. JOHNSON, IF I COULD RESPOND? CLEARLY, THE TREES REQUIRE MORE THAN TEXT AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE WORK TO DO STILL. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ARTICULATED GOALS FOR TREES, AND THEN WE HAD ARTICULATED OTHER GOALS FOR THE UDO AND WE NEVER QUITE WORKED OUT HOW WE RECONCILE THOSE. MY ONLY CONCERN IN THE CONTEXT OF YOUR REZONING AND MINE, IS WHETHER WE GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S A POLICY THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT HELPS US TO DECIDE WHAT REQUIREMENTS TO IMPOSE, ON THESE TWO REZONINGS, AS IT PERTAINS TO TREES. SO I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. AND AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S PAINFUL TO SEE WHAT IS IN MY CASE A 50-ACRE TRACT OF LAND WITH ONE HOUSE ON IT, OTHERWISE IS COVERED WITH TREES, AND RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT LOOK AT OUR POLICY, OUR TREE SAVE POLICY AND SAY WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? LEAVING A FEW TREES AROUND THE EDGE. AND YOU THINK THAT YOU -- ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. AND I'M INTERESTED ALSO. I GUESS THE MESSAGE, THEN, IS CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT SORT OF INFORMATION COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE SOON? AND IF NECESSARY, I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL WILL JUST HAVE TO MAKE AN AD HOC PUBLIC INTEREST DECISION ABOUT WHAT WEIGHT TO ASSIGN TO TREES AND HOW THAT MODIFIES THESE PETITIONS. SO ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT, HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP. ON THE MTC LETTER, THIS WAS THE PRODUCT OF TENSIONS THAT HAVE EXISTED AT THE MTC FOR SOMETIME, BECAUSE OF UNHAPPINESS BY THE NORTHERN TOWNS ABOUT THE HALF CENT SALES TAX AND THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE THE ADVANTAGES THEY EXPECTED, THE RED LINE AND OTHER INVESTMENT UP THERE. SO THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEW SALES TAX. AND HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT. AND THEREFORE, THEY ARE NEGOTIATING FOR A BIGGER ROLE IN GOVERNANCE FOR C.A.T.S. AND IN SOME OF THESE DECISIONS. THE MARKUP OF THE EXIST ING AGREEMENT, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, IS REALLY A REWRITE. AND THERE'S A LOT IN THERE THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, OUR GOAL IS TO KIND OF PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE 900,000 PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT ON CITY COUNCIL WHILE ALSO WORKING WITH THE TOWNS TO RESPOND TO CONCERNS THEY HAVE ABOUT BEING EXCLUDED FROM DECISION MAKING. AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE DIDN'T SAY MUCH BECAUSE THAT LETTER POPPED UP, WAS PUBLIC AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REACT TO IT. SO THE MAYOR IS ACTUALLY AND THING MANAGER AND I ARE ALL LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN OFFER OR HOW WE THINK THAT MIGHT WORKMENT IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR US JUST TO PROCESS ALL OF THAT. SO I GUESS I WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. I HAVE NOTED YOUR REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION TO BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL ON THAT SITUATION. >> MY COMMENT ON THE TREE -- >>RENEE JOHNSON: CAN YOU HEAR? >>ED DRIGGS: YES, HELLO? >>RENEE JOHNSON: I'M SORRY. THE ORGANIZER IS MUTING ME AND UNMUTING ME. THANK YOU. AS FAR AS THE LETTER -- AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT MAYBE BE IS -- IT MIGHT BE NEWS TO US, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS -- THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT THAT LETTER WAS GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING. FOR A WHILE AGO. SO I WOULD HOPE OUR STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US AN UPDATE REGARDING THE LETTER? ALTHOUGH WE JUST GOT IT LAST WEEK. >>ED DRIGGS: I THINK WE KNEW THAT THE TOWNS WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER. AND THE SUBJECT OF HOW MTC'S GOVERN HAS COME UP IN MEETINGS. I DON'T THINK WE WERE PREPARED FOR THE CONTENTS OF THE LETTER AND IT JUST SORT OF SHOWED UP. I MEAN, IT WAS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA BEFORE THE MAYOR EVEN SAW IT. SO WE ARE SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THE SPECIFICS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THERE. AND THE TRICKY THING IS, THAT CHARLOTTE DOES REPRESENT A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY, AND SO WE NEED TO TRY TO IDENTIFY A GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF THAT, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THE TOWNS TO PARTICIPATE MORE MEANINGFULLY IN DECISIONS. >>RENEE JOHNSON: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>ED DRIGGS: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DID YOU WANT TO THE SAY SOMETHING? >> YEAH, I WANTED TO SAY ONE QUICK THING ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY STUDY THAT FIRST, THIS IS BEING DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TREE CHARLOTTE, THEY ARE THE LEAD -- THE LEAD AGENCY ON THE STUDY. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON WHEN TO GET THOSE RESULTS BACK, BUT JUST FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AS WELL AS WITH THE VENDOR, OCTOBER IS REALLY THE TIME FRAME THAT I THINK WE'LL HAVE REALLY ANY INFORMATION TO SHARE. AND THEN I WANTED TO MENTION, TOO, THAT THE OUTCOME OF THE TREE CANOPY STUDY IS TO GUIDE FUTURE POLICY AND REGULATORY DECISIONS AND SO, IT COULD RESULT IN A NEW REGULATION FOR TREE SAVE, OR HOW TREE SAVE IS ALLOCATED TO THE SITE. BUT THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY IS TO HELP US MAKE -- MAKE PLANNING POLICY REGULATORY AND PLANTING DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE FROM THAT. >>ED DRIGGS: SO I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PROCESS. BUT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON IS TALKING ABOUT IS A NEAR TERM SITUATION. AND AGAIN, THE CONCERN I HAVE AS IT RELATES TO MY DISTRICT AS WELL IS IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT LEADS TO A VERY DIFFERENT OUTCOME FOR TREES THAT'S GOING TO BE RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED OR WHAT MIGHT BE OFFERED, IE, WE CAN'T TWEAK HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 ACRES, OR 150 ACRES, AND SO IF THE STAFF HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO REFERENCE POINTS THE COUNCIL MIGHT USE IN ORDER TO TRY AND BE SENSITIVE ON THAT, I GUESS THAT'S ALL WE CAN ASK FOR IN THE NEAR TERM. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR A POLICY CONVERSATION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE UPDATED NUMBERS BUT AS TO MS. CRAIG'S POINT, I THINK THAT WILL ALSO INFORM HOW WE CAN ADJUST OUR PLANTING SCHEME GOING FORWARD. >>ED DRIGGS: UH-HUH. >> I WAS AT A TREE CHARLOTTE EVENT THIS WEEKEND AND THEY DISTRIBUTED 300 TREES TO BE PLANTED FOR CHARLOTTE CITY RESIDENTS, SO IN THE FUTURE, THAT CAN BE A HIGHER NUMBER, BECAUSE OF COURSE WE PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO TREE CHARLOTTE. SO THESE UPCOMING NUMBERS CAN INFORM OUR NEW PLANTING SCHEME AS ON A GO-FORWARD BASIS. >>ED DRIGGS: YOU'VE GOT TO QUALITY AND THE AGE AND THE HEALTH OF THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY, SO THE POLICY CONVERSATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN SEVERAL DIRECTIONS, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN WE DO NEAR TERM ABOUT THESE TWO AND OTHER REZONINGS THAT REALLY IMPACT TREES? OKAY. SO IF EVERYBODY IS ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR US? >> THAT IS CORRECT. IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE SECOND PRESENTATION? SO THE SECOND TOPIC THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU IS TALKING ABOUT REZONING INCONSISTENCIES. AND THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THIS TOPIC FORWARD TO YOU ALL IS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND FROM COUNCIL, ABOUT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PETITIONS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY MAP. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO TODAY IS REMIND YOU ALL JUST WHERE WE ARE IN THE OVERALL PLANNING PROCESS. AND CREATE SOME TRANSPARENCY AS TO HOW STAFF IS MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE. SO AS I MENTIONED,S WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HUGE BODY OF WORK, I MEAN, THIS IS UNLIKE ANYTHING CHARLOTTE REALLY HAS EVER SEEN BEFORE. SO WE ADOPTED OUR FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 45 YEARS, IN 2021, AND WE ADOPTED A POLICY MAP IN 2022. AND THE UDO WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2023. BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT WORK TO BE DONE, SO THAT WAS LOOKING AT THINGS AT A CITY-WIDE SCALE. KNOWING THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING FURTHER REMINEMENTS AS WE ENTER IN THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND SO, I WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, REZONING PETITIONS CONTINUE TO BE FILED DURING THIS TIME PERIOD AND WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE WORK. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND THAT ALSO CREATE SOME -- MAKE IT CLEAR AS TO HOW WE'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING. BUT EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, WHETHER WE'RE AT THE END OF IT OR IF WE WEREN'T EVEN DOING THIS AT ALL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INCONSISTENCIES, NO MATTER WHAT, NEW MARKET IDEAS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AND SO DAVE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT THERE WILL STILL BE INCONSISTENCIES, EVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, BUT WE DO EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE FEWER. SO THE WAY THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO WORK FOR TODAY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER THE ELYSIA, LEADING THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING PROCESS AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT IMPORTANT WORK REALLY FACTORS INTO THIS CONVERSATION. PART OF THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS INCLUDES REFINING THE POLICY MAP, WE KNEW IT WASN'T PERFECT, WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED, AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT THROUGH THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS. THEN DAVE WILL TALK FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT REZONING PROCESS. WHICH THAT WILL END UP -- UPDATING OUR ZONING MAPS. SO AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS BODY OF WORK, WE'LL HAVE REFINED POLICY MAP, AND WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATED ZONING MAP. AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT DAVE WILL DO IS HE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE BEEN USING INTERNALLY TO EVALUATE REZONING PETITIONS AND GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES OF PETITIONS THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE USE THAT CRITERIA IN MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DID. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT EVERY TO ELYSIA. >> THANK YOU, ALYSON. AS ALYSON MENTIONED, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING THAT A LOT OF THIS WORK WILL BE LIVING DOCUMENTS. AND IN FACT, THEY TRULY ARE. AS WE LEARN MORE, AS WE TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND AS WE'RE TESTING NEW IDEAS, WE ARE IN A POSITION TO BE FLEXIBLE AND MODIFY TO RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND A SO WHAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING NOW, IS THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING. IT'S TAKING THAT HIGH-LEVEL VISION THAT WAS OUTLINED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS TO HOW WE WANT TO GROW AND DEVELOP. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE POLICY MAP, MAPPED THAT VISION, AND NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH -- THE UDO PROVIDED REGULATIONS AS TO HOW WE IMPLEMENT THE VISION, AND NOW, WE'RE AT THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD-LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THAT VISION IS APPLIED. AND HOW WE CAN MAKE REFINEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE OUR GOAL IN TERMS OF -- IMPLEMENTING OUR OVERALL STRATEGY FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. SO THE WAY WE ORGANIZE THE PROCESS IS OVER TWO YEARS, WE WILL PROCEED IN FIVE BIG STEPS. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN STEP THREE AND DEVELOPING 14 COMMUNITY AREA PLANS. IF YOU REMEMBER NOT TOO SHORTLY, SOMETIME AGO. WE WERE LOOKING AT OVER 80 DIFFERENT PLANS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE A VISION. WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE ADOPTION OF THE POLICY MAP, WE NOW HAVE TWO BIG DOCUMENTS THAT PROVIDE OUR GUIDANCE FOR GROWTH. THESE 14 AREA PLANS WILL HELP REFINE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS HOW THAT VISION APPLIES TO THEIR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'LL LOOK AT CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES, WE'LL MAKE REFINEMENTS TO THE PLACE TYPE, WHICH IS THE NEW LAND USE CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WE'RE USING, IT'S WHAT WE CALL LAND USE PLUS, IT'S NOT LOOKING AT JUST HOW YOU USE THE LAND, BUT ALSO BUILDING FORM CHARACTER MOBILITY, AND OPEN SPACE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE BROADLY AND HOW WE CREATE THESE COMPLETE COMMUNITIES. AND THE THEN WE'LL ALSO -- NEXT YEAR IN 2024, REALLY LOOK AT WHAT TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THESE KEY AREAS OF LOCATIONS THAT WE KNOW ARE TRANSFORMING, PRETTY RAPIDLY, IN RESPONSE TO MARKET DEMANDS AND COMMUNITY NEEDS. EACH PLAN WILL HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY. SO IT WILL SAY, HERE'S OUR VISION IN THE POLICY DOCUMENT, AND THEN HAVING ACCOMPANYING IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY THAT WILL NOT BE ADOPTED BUT WILL GIVE US GUIDANCE AS TO HOW WE CAN BRING THAT VISION TO FRUITION. AND THE KEY PART OF THAT IS THE UPDATED POLICY MAP THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, THIS ENTIRE YEAR HAS BEEN DEVOTED TO WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO REFINE THE MAP. SO WE HAVE CONDUCTED 21 MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS WITHIN THE FIRST SPRING PART OF THE YEAR. AND NOW, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER 21 FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THE WORKSHOPS ARE JUST A PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY. WE HAVE OVER 40 METHODS THAT WE'RE USING TO ENGAGE ONLINE AND IN PERSON TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED IN UPDATING THE POLICY MAP. THE END GOAL IS TO HAVE A REFINED MAP NEXT YEAR. AND WE'LL ALSO LOOK TO HAVE SOME REVISIONS TO THE COMP PLAN THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO CARRY FORWARD WHEN WE UPDATE THE PLAN IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THE POLICY MAP AS I MENTIONED, WE WANT TO HAVE A DRAFT OUT FOR -- TO THE COMMUNITY IN 2024. THIS IS THE YEAR NOW TO HAVE INPUT ON THE REFINED MAP. THIS MAP WILL BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT DAVE WILL TALK TO IN A FEW MINUTES BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT ON THE MAP THIS YEAR. ALSO LOOKING AT THE POLICY MAP NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY INPUT AS ONE WAY TO UPDATE THE MAP, THERE ARE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE MAP THAT WE'RE MAKING INTERNALLY, AS STAFF, LOOKING -- TALKING TO OUR PARTNERS AND OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, AND OUR OTHER INTERDEPARTMENTAL PARTNERS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, SPECIFICALLY, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE PARKS AND REC. THEY ARE REQUIRING -- A CHOIR -- ACQUIRING A LOT OF LAND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT HOW THE MAP REFLECTS THE VISION FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE ALSO RECEIVING FEEDBACK ON THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP. SO I TURN IT OVER TO DAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE POLICY MAP INPUTS WILL HELP WITH THE ZONING PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. >>PETTINE: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE'LL TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, I KNOW WE'LL PROBABLY BE COMING BACK OVER TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN A LOT MORE DETAIL. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THINGS ARE HEADING AFTER -- KIND OF CONCURRENTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WE'VE GOT THE ALIGNMENT REZONING, EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, IN PROCESS AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT EFFORT IS TRYING TO DO IS WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTIES OUT THERE, WHERE THE ZONING DISTRICT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH WHAT THE POLICY MAP IS -- OR WHAT THE POLICY -- EXCUSE ME, WHAT THE PLACE TYPE IS ON THE POLICY MAP. ALL RIGHT. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS YOU MIGHT HAVE I A PLACE TYPE THAT'S NEIGHBORHOOD 2, AND THE POLICY MAP MAY SHOW IT AS COMMERCIAL OR, YOU KNOW, SOME MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN ZONING ON THE GROUND, PLACE TYPE THAT'S RECOMMENDED ON THE MAP. SO THE ALIGNMENT REZONING PROCESS IS AN EFFORT TO TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES, AND GET THEM IN A PLACE THAT BETTER ALIGNS WITH THE POLICY MAP AND THOSE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE GOALS CAN HAPPEN AT A MORE PREDICTABLE LEVEL AND IN A WAY THAT AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS BETTER MATCHED UP ACROSS THE BOARD. SO THAT WILL HELP TO REDUCE THE REZONING INCONSISTENCIES, WILL NOT ELIMINATE THEM ENTIRELY, I DON'T THINK THERE'LL EVER BE A TIME WHERE ANY LAND USE PLAN OR MAP WON'T HAVE INCONSISTENCIES, REALLY, JUST THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF IT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE. AND THAT'S MORE OF A STATIC MAP IN THE MARKET AND OTHER THINGS ARE MUCH MORE DYNAMIC. SO WHY DO WE HAVE THOSE INCONSISTENCIES? SO AGAIN, WE JUST KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT. CHANGES IN THE MARKET. WE HAVE DIFFERENT HOUSING NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. IN AREAS -- EXCUSE ME, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU MIGHT HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE MAY BE LET'S SAY A ROAD PROJECT OR AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WHERE LAND NOW IS A LITTLE BIT MORE VIABLE FOR A COMMERCIAL OUTCOME OR SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS, THAT CAN CHANGE YOUR LAND USE PATTERNS. DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALSO CHANGE, DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY MAY SEE DIFFERENT MARKET PUSHES OVER TIME THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO YEARS WHEN WE PUT THAT PLAN IN PLACE. AND THEN JUST MAJOR PLANNING EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO LAND USES THAT ARE DESIRED BY THE MARKET OR BY THE COMMUNITY, THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ON OUR RADAR AT THE TIME OF ADOPTION OR CREATION OF THAT PLACE TYPE MAP. SO WITH THAT ALL OF THAT, NEXT SLIDE, WE GET INTO HAVING TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF INTERIM PROCESSES, AS ALYSON MENTIONED, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THIS WHILE WE'RE ALSO IN PROCESS OF TRYING TO CONTINUE THESE REFINEMENTS IN AREA PLANNING, ALIGNMENT REZONING, CONTINUING TO EVALUATE AND MAKE TWEAKS TO THE UDO, IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE KNOW WE HAVE THESE OTHER BODIES OF WORK WORKING TOWARDS COMPLETION OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS FOR THE IN BETWEEN PHASE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. SO AGAIN, WE ADOPTED THE MAP IN MARCH OF 2022. THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN JUNE OF 22. SO DURING THAT TIME, WE KNEW WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE TYPES OF INCONSISTENCIES SO WE WORKED ON DEVELOPING SOME INTERIM GUIDANCE, TO REALLY HELP US KIND OF EVALUATE WHEN WE COME UP AGAINST THOSE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE 2040 POLICY MAP. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THAT TODAY, WITH COUNCIL, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON HOW WE MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO Y'ALL EVERY THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH, ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ON THIS IS CERTAINLY WELCOMED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON IT. WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD 1 AND NEIGHBORHOOD 2, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUESTS. YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE THAT N1, N2 SCENARIO, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE, JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER WHEN WE EVALUATE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, SO SOMEBODY COMES TO STAFF, MAKES A PRESENTATION ABOUT A POTENTIAL REZONING, THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE NEIGHBORHOOD 2 TOWNHOMES OR EVEN MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS, AND THE PLACE TYPE IS RECOMMENDED FOR N1. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE GET THOSE DURING THE PRESUBMITTAL MEETING BEFORE THEY EVEN BECOME AN ACTIVE PETITION, WHERE DO THEY FALL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, AN AREA OF EITHER HIGH CAPACITY TRANSITION OR MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, BUS ACCESS NEARBY WITHIN GOOD WALKING DISTANCE? ARE THEY WITHIN A HALF MOVE MILE OF THINGS LIKE A MAJOR TRAIL ACCESS POINT THAT CAN PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION? ARE THEY WITHIN THE AREA OF ACTIVITY CENTER, CAMPUS, INNOVATION, MIXED USE, PLACES THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF JOB CONCENTRATION SO WE MIGHT NEED SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING OR MAY MAKE SENSE TO PUT ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN THOSE AREAS. ARE WE WITHIN ACCESS TO A HOUSING GAP. MAJOR ROAD OR MAJOR ARTERIAL? AND ALSO, GENERALLY WHAT'S THE CONTEXT OF THIS SURROUNDING AREA AND SOME OF THOSE PREFERRED ADJACENCIES, WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THERE, ARE WE SEEING A TREND, THAT IS SHIFTING TO SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED? OR IS IT KIND OF ONE OF THOSE HEY, THIS IS A KIND OF A PIONEER PETITION, FIRST OUT OF THE GATES, COMING IN WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD 2, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE AREA. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER. I'LL CAVEAT THAT TO SAY THESE AREN'T THINGS THAT WE RANK HIGHER OR LOWER, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, CHECK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BOXES FOR STAFF TO THEN MAKE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY CHECK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BOXES AND OUR RECOMMENDATION STILL MAY DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF OTHER FACTORS. THESE AREN'T AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST AND ALSO A SET OF CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO CHECK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BOXES FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS FAVORABLY, THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE BIGGER CONTEXT OF THE PETITION TO SAY, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO INCREASE THE OUTCOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA OVER WHAT WAS ALREADY PROPOSED OR APPROVED ON THAT POLICY MAP? IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? SO SOME OF THE PREFERRED ADJACENT PLACE TYPES WHEN WE LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOOD 2, WHEN THAT PLACE TYPE RECOMMENDATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD 1, IS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE AGAINST OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD 1, ARE WE NEAR -- ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER OR ACTIVITY CENTER, DO WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ADJACENCY, CAMPUS, INNOVATION MIXED USE, PARK AND PRESERVE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES ALSO DEPENDING ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, SOME OF NA NEIGHBORHOOD 2 COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE SOME BETTER TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT MAY BE COMMERCIAL NEXT DOOR, OR SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE ADJACENCIES AND THAT GENERAL CONTEXT OF WHERE THESE REQUESTS ARE BEING MADE AND HOW THEY FIT INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE, SO I WANT TO GO OVER A FEW EXAMPLE, WE HAVE FOUR EXAMPLES OF WHEN STAFF EVALUATED THESE AND USED SOME OF THESE CRITERIA TO EVALUATE VOUR SEPARATE PETITIONS, TWO WHICH WE WEREN'T SUPPORTIVE OF. SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE FIRST ONE. SO THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF PETITION 2022-015. THIS WAS A PETITION TO DEVELOP TOWNHOMES ALONG SHARON AMITY RIGHT THERE AT BASICALLY RIGHT ADJACENT TO EASTLAND YARDS, WHERE A LOT OF THE BLUE IS ON THE MAP, THE EASTLAND YARDS PROJECT. SO THIS WAS INITIALLY SLATED TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD 1. WHEN WE LOOK AROUND THE GENERAL AREA AND THE CONTEXT, YOU DID DO SEE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD 2 TO THE SOUTH OF IT AND A LARGE ACTIVITY CENTER IN THE EASTLAND PROJECT THAT WE MENTIONED, NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVITY CENTER ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE. SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS CORRIDOR AROUND THIS INTERSECTION, WE THOUGHT WAS A BETTER CANDIDATE FOR SOME INCREASED DENSITY, THERE'S A BUS STOP BASICALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SITE. YOU'VE GOT THE TRANSIT CENTER AT EASTLAND YARD AS WELL, THIS ONE MADE SENSE TO US TO SAY, OKAY, WE SEE THAT THIS IS TOWNHOMES, THEY'RE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA. IMPACT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OF FAIRLY MINIMAL. IT MADE SENSE TO HAVE SOME INCREASED DENSITY IN THE AREA, OF THESE ACTIVITIES CENTERS, THIS IS ONE WHERE STAFF LOOKED AT THIS FAVORABLY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND ANOTHER PETITION THAT WE HAD RECENTLY THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WAS 2022-136. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THERE IDENTIFIED WITH THE STAR. IT WAS ON CATALINA AVENUE. WHICH REALLY IS ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN A HALF MILE REMOVED FROM CAMP NORTH END AND MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTER, A LOT OF N2 BEHIND AND IT IN THE FORM OF APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES. SO WE HAD VACANT PARCELS IN THIS AREA, DO HAVE BUS ACCESS NOT TOO FAR. YOU'VE GOT SOME ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, LIGHT RAIL FROM BUS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. AGAIN, THE CAMP NORTH END ACTIVITY CENTER WAS A BIG DRIVER OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THIS PETITION AS WELL. SO THIS ONE ALSO MADE SOME SENSE FROM A STAFF'S STANDPOINT, WHAT E THEY WERE ASKING FOR, AN ATTACHED PROJECT AND WE FELT THAT WAS A REASONABLE OUTCOME. GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF N2 BEHIND IT AND THE LOCATION NEAR THE ACTIVITY CENTERS, THAT WAS ONE STAFF LOOKED AT IN THE FAVORABLE SENSE. ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT FAVORABLY INITIALLY, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WAS A PETITION UP ON RIDGE ROAD, YOU CAN SEE JUST TO THE NORTH IN THAT LARGE AREA WHERE THE PURPLE IS, THAT WAS THE KINGS GRANT, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL, SO WE DID SEE SOME POTENTIAL JOB ACTIVITY THERE, AND JOB CREATION, YOU'VE GOT OF COURSE CONCORD MILLS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, BUT INITIALLY, THIS PROPOSAL WAS FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT BUILDINGS FOR STAFF, AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE CONTEXT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT. JUST DIDN'T QUITE FIT THE GENERAL CHARACTER AND REALLY FELT LIKE THAT WAS TOO FAR OF A PUSH TO GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD 2 IN THAT AREA. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, THEY REFINED THEIR PETITION DOWN TO I THINK JUST SOME SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND PUT ALONG RIDGE ROAD, SOME DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES, WHICH WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL NEIGHBORHOOD 1 RECOMMENDATION. SO BETWEEN THE CHANGES THEY MADE TO THEIR PLAN AND THE DESIGN AND FORM OF THE PROJECT, THE LARGE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT WERE GOING TO BE IN THE AREA TO THE NORTH, CONCORD MILLS ALSO BEING THERE, THE LOCATION ALONG THE INTERSTATE, THIS IS ONE WHERE IT DIDN'T CHECK ALL OF THE BOXES THAT SOME OF THE OTHERS CHECKED, AND INITIALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR IT. BECAUSE OF THE FORM OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHEN THEY MADE CHANGES TO IT. STAFF DID CHANGE SOME OF THE -- CHANGE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BACK TO ZONING COMMITTEE, SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL. AND EVENTUALLY, THE PETITION WAS APPROVED FOR LIKE I SAID, MORE OF A TOWNHOME ATTACHED PRODUCT, WHICH WE FELT WAS CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE, THAT WAS ONE WHERE WE DIDN'T INITIALLY SUPPORT IT, BUT WITH CHANGES MADE, IT DID END UP HAVING A FAVORABLE OUTCOME. AND THE LAST ONE WE'LL LOOK AT, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WAS ALSO A PETITION THAT STAFF DIDN'T INITIALLY SUPPORT, WE WERE ASKING FOR SOME CHANGES, AS WELL TO HELP BETTER ALIGN WITH NEIGHBORHOOD 1. JUST REALLY HAD A BIT OF AN ODD CONTEXTUAL SCENARIO WITH THIS ONE, THERE WASN'T VERY GOOD ROAD FRONTAGE, IT WAS WITHIN SOME COMMERCIAL AREA, BUT THERE WASN'T REALLY GOOD PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET YOU TO SOME OF THOSE PLACES. SO WE DEFINITELY WOULD SEE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE IN SOME BUILD OUT BUT WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED JUST WAS MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO SUPPORT, AND WE WERE ASKING FOR SOME CHANGES TO BE MADE THIS PETITION WAS ENDED UP GETTING WITHDRAWN, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THE STAFF WAS ASKING FOR. AND IT DIDN'T GET TO ZONING COMMITTEE, THEY WITHDREW I BELIEVE BEFORE THAT. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE, YOU KNOW, STAFF DID LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED DIDN'T QUITE MAKE CONTEXTUAL SENSE, DIDN'T CHECK SOME OF THE BOXES E WRP LOOKING FOR, WE WANTED THE CHANGES MADE AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE PURSUING SOME DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT IN THAT SCENARIO. SO THOSE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS IS APPLIED AND HOW THIS IS LOOKED AT. AS WE EVALUATE THESE PETITIONS. A LOT OF THESE COME IN AND COME IN THROUGH PRESUBS AND WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T EVEN SEE THEM BECOME PETITIONS, SO A LOT OF THE ONES THAT WE SEE WHETHER OR NOT -- WHETHER THEY'RE NOT CHECKING BOXES OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF SUPPORT, WE LET THEM KNOW THAT FAIRLY WELL UP FRONT SO THEY CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE IT OR MAKE CHANGES TO IT. AND SOMETIMES THEY DO, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T PURSUE THE PROJECT. OR THEY PURSUE IT KNOWING THAT STAFF MAY NOT HAVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH IT. SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. JUST WANT TO TALK THROUGH SOME NEXT STEPS. SO WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS, IS WE'LL CONTINUE TO TEST THESE CRITERIA THROUGH REZONINGS AS WE FIN YOU SHALL UP AND GO THROUGH COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING PROCESS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH TPD TO DEVELOP THIS AS MORE OF A TOOL BOX FOR INTERIM USE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, INCONSISTENT PETITIONS THAT WE SEE, PARTICULARLY SOMETIMES GOING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, ACTIVITY CENTER, HOW CAN WE DEVELOP SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THOSE? WE DO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE IN PLACE FOR THOSE, WE JUST DON'T SEE THOSE AS FREQUENTLY, SO WE WANTED TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF Y'ALL FIRST. AND AGAIN, WE'LL WORK ON THE POLICY MAP REFINEMENTS, DURING THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT DRAFT IN EARLY 2024. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO GO THROUGH THAT ADOPTED POLICY MAP, WE'LL INCLUDE A COMPANION GUIDANCE FOR MAP AMENDMENT CRITERIA WILL COVER ALL THE PLACE TYPES AND GIVE US THAT GUIDE BOOK THAT TAKES US THROUGH THOSE STEPS WHEN WE MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE PLACE TYPES AND HOW WE GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITH THOSE. SO THAT WAS A LOT FOR ME. A LOT TO DIGEST, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO Y'ALL TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>ED DRIGGS: THANK YOU, MR. PETTINE. I WANTED TO SAY FIRST, BEFORE WE THROW IT OPEN TO THE COMMITTEE, WE FIND OURSELVES SOMETIMES IN A DIFFICULT POSITION. BECAUSE IT'S AN UNSETTLED ENVIRONMENT. WE GET A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO SEE THINGS A CERTAIN WAY AND THEY THINK THAT THIS ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN ALLOWS FOR THAT PERCEPTION SO WE FIND OURSELVES SOMETIMES BEING SQUEEZED THAT CAN LEAD TO BLOWBACK SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTIES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUR WORK. AND I HOPE YOU'LL JUST KIND OF BEAR WITH US. YOU KNOW, AS WE TRY TO DO OUR JOBS. >> LIKEWISE. >>ED DRIGGS: QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD. >> MORE SO OF A COMMENT BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. I QUITE OFTEN FEEL LIKE THE REZONING PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF EDUCATION IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND IT. AND WHILE THE PLAYERS WHO OPERATE IN THAT SPACE DO, I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DON'T. AND WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, I -- I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY. AND I THINK WHAT YOU JUST PRESENTED, LIKE, YOU TRUNCATED VERSION OF THIS, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM AND MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARM US WITH SOME OF THIS MATERIAL SO WHEN WE GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, WE CAN SORT OF DEMYSTIFY THIS PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE CITIZEN IS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR FAMILY, AND EVERY DAY LIFE. WHEN THEY SEE THAT Z POP UP, THEY -- IT'S MORE FEAR OF ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. >>PETTINE: YEAH. >> I THINK THIS IS HELPFUL INFORMATION. BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE, MAYBE IT'S FOR YOU, MR. PETTINE, OR MS. CRAIG, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INCONSISTENCIES, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S A MOVING PROCESS, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT. AS MS. OSBORNE SAID. BUT AS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, THUS FAR, SINCE WE'VE ADOPTED THE UDO, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY SURPRISES IN ANY OF THE PETITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCONSISTENT, LIKE HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING SORT OF OUT OF LEFT FIELD THAT WE DIDN'T CONSIDER WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS WORK? THAT HAS -- THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, NECESSITATED US TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS? >>PETTINE: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN OUT OF LEFT FIELD OR WE DIDN'T EXPECT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY KIND OF NEW DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS NECESSARILY THAT ARE KIND OF IN REACTION TO EITHER UDO STANDARDS OR POLICY MAP ADOPTION. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE KIND OF SEEN IS JUST THAT CONTINUING TREND OF LAND VALUES NECESSITATING MORE OF, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT OUTCOMES THAT ARE EITHER ATTACHED PRODUCTS OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY ENVISIONED AND THAT'S JUST THAT MARKET REALITY, MARKET CHANGE, THAT'S HARD TO PREDICT AND WILL FLUCTUATE. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY NECESSARILY SURPRISES, I THINK WE'RE SEEING WHAT MOST FOLKS ARE UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CHANGE TO MULTIFAMILY NOW THAT SHIFT IS KIND OF LOOKING MORE TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES. SO I THINK WE'RE SEEING THE SAME FLUCTUATIONS FOLKS ARE SEEING, WE SEE IT A LITTLE BIT EARLY THAN MAYBE FOLKS READ ABOUT OR HEAR ABOUT, BUT NO REAL SURPRISES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS OR IDEAS OR HEY, THIS IS COMPLETELY NEW, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. >> I'LL ADD REALLY QUICK, TOO, NO BIG SURPRISES BUT TO GO A LITTLE FURTHERER ON THE HOUSING SIDE OF IT. THERE'S JUST A REAL NEED FOR HOUSING RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK THAT IT'S GOTTEN EXACERBATED BECAUSE OF SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WHETHER IT'S LABOR SHORTAGE, THE COST OF MATERIALS, LAND VALUES HAVE GONE UP. AND INTEREST RATES ARE HIGH. SUPPLY IS HARD TO FIND AND SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF TENDED TO SEE MORE OF A REQUEST FOR TOWNHOMES. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO GAIN EQUITY AND OWN HOME. SO I THINK -- I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEEN MORE THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED AND THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO CHARLOTTE, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER COLLEAGUES AND OTHER CITIES, RALEIGH, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAVE SEEN VERY SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT OUTCOMES. >> WITH THE HOUSING STOCK BEING WHERE IT IS, AND THE INTEREST RATES BEING AS HIGH AS IT IS, IT'S -- THERE'S A SHIFT NOW FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION VERSUS INVESTING IN OLD CONSTRUCTION WHICH CREATES ANOTHER DIMENSION THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT I CONCUR WITH THE CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. DEFINITELY, IT'S HARD WORK AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS UPDATE. >> YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF IT. PEOPLE BEING, YOU KNOW -- SEEING THAT SIGN AND BEING AFRAID. I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SIGN THAT WENT UP MORE AS A JOKE IN THE NODA NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO LIKE TO THAT LEVEL OF PEOPLE GETTING SCARED ABOUT REZONINGS IN THAT AREA TO PUT IT UP AS LIKE A HALLOWEEN KIND OF HAUNTED HOUSE SCENARIO. I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CLIMATE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE NEED FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR FOLKS AND TRY TO CONTINUE TO DISPEL SOME OF THOSE MYTHS BEHIND IT. AND OPEN THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TO HOW WE OPERATE, SO IF WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT, JUST ANY OF Y'ALL JUST LET US KNOW, WE'LL COME OUT TO THE TOWN HALLS OR OTHER MEETINGS YOU MAY HAVE, IF THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. >>PETTINE: UH-HUH. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: A QUICK COMMENT, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN ANN HAS SAID AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO, THERE'S A LOT OF JUST MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS GOING BACK TO THE ADOPTION OF THE 2040 AND THE UDO AND SO I TRY TO TELL EVERYONE THAT IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, WE DO HAVE THE AREA MAPPING PROCESS CONTINUING TO GO ON. AND THEN AFTER 45 YEARS, I MEAN, EVERYONE IS GETTING ADJUSTED TO THE NEW REALITY OF HOW WE'RE DEVELOPING. EVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY AND SO, I JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, THAT WE WOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND THAT MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A RUBBER STAMP BOARD, WE ARE NOT THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOW WE GROW, HOW WE PROSPER THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AND THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE INTEREST OF NEIGHBORHOODS, RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY FOR SURE, AND THE PETITION THAT'S CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT? THERE HAS TO BE SOME BALANCE AND THERE HAS TO BE A POLICY THAT WE CAN POINT TO FOR THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, IT CAN'T BE ARBITRARY RI, A REZONING IN DISTRICT 2 AND, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A, B, C, D, E, F, G, I CAN'T POINT TO THE A POLICY THAT DPEN DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION -- DEFENDS THAT. WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH DEVELOPMENT IS BETTER THAN OTHERS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. AND HOW YOU DO THAT IN A WAY THAT THERE'S CONFIDENCE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT FOLKS ARE FOLLOWING. BUT I THINK MS. ANDERSON MADE A GOOD POINT, IT'S JUST CONTINUING EDUCATING THE COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY YOUR STAFF, THAT WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WITH THE NEXT 600 PAGE DOCUMENT. [ LAUGHTER ] >>ED DRIGGS: COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. >>RENEE JOHNSON: THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AND THE STAFF FOR YOUR AVAILABILITY TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO DO THAT OUTREACH, I KNOW I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH DAVE AND ASKED HIM -- ( INAUDIBLE ) AND ALYSON, FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT, ( INAUDIBLE ) AND MEMBERS FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS IS -- IT IS VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS. SO I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF'S AVAILABILITY TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AREA PLAN, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF LINE, IF NECESSARY, BUT THERE'S A NEW COALITION THAT'S FORMED, FORMING IN THE NORTH AREA. AND I THINK THAT THIS PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY AREA PRESENTATION WILL BE GREAT TOO PRESENT TO THAT AREA, THAT'S A COALITION AND IT'S A YUAN -- UNIFICATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, EXCITED ABOUT, AND IF WE CAN SCHEDULE A TIME TO PRESENT TO THAT AREA. CHANGING SO MUCH, TO GET SOME ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY. >> SURE, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGING AS INDIVIDUALS, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>RENEE JOHNSON: GOOD, THANK YOU. >>ED DRIGGS: SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. FOR ONE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE TRYING TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON AN AIR WHILE IN THE AIR. AND THAT'S TRICKY. INCONSISTENCIES IN THIS CASE MEANING A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE EVEN THOUGH IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE MAP, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT POINTS TO EITHER A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAN, BECAUSE OUR CONCLUSION IS THAT THE MAP IS INDICATING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE FEEL IS ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE, OR IT INDICATES A UNIQUENESS ABOUT THE PETITION THAT WARRANTS AN EXCEPTION. SO IN VERY GENERAL TERMS AND I THINK IN THE PAST, YOU'VE ACTUALLY DESCRIBED IT A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT POLICY AND WHEN WE NEED TO ACCEPT AN EXCEPTION IS VALID. I CAN REALLY RELATE TO WHAT MS. ANDERSON JUST SAID, BECAUSE I'M IN THE MIZ MIDDLE OF A SITUATION, TWICE IN THE LAST MONTH, I STOOD IN FRONT OF GROUPS OF 250 PEOPLE ASKING A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS, AND SOME THF OF THEM SAY WHY CAN'T THEY STAY R3, WHICH IS UNHELPFUL. I REGARD AS MY JOB AND I DESCRIBE TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT MY JOB IS ESSENTIALLY TO WORK WITH THEM AND COACH THEM SO THAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS MORE LEVEL. THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM A PLACE OF INEXPERIENCE UP AGAINST PROS. AND SO I'M THE GUY, THAT SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN ASK FOR, THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU ANYWHERE, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS AND, YOU KNOW, UP TO A POINT, THAT IS EFFECTIVE. BUT A CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT OUTREACH IN GENERAL IS NOBODY IS THAT INTERESTED UNTIL IT'S HAPPENING NEARBY. >> UH-HUH. >>ED DRIGGS: RIGHT? SO YOU CAN LAUNCH EVERY KIND OF OUTREACH EFFORT YOU WANT, AND THEN SUDDENLY, WHEN IT IS HAPPENING NEARBY, WOW, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PASSIONATE EXPERTS ON YOUR HANDS. AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS RIGHT AND THEY WILL -- THEY WILL THEN AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY WILL LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND SAY, WELL, APPROVE THAT OR, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT OR WHATEVER. AND YOU DON'T HAVE AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE BACKSTOP OF LANGUAGE THAT JUST SAYS, GUYS, THIS IS WHAT IT IS. SO I'VE HAD TO TELL THEM, OUR GENERAL PRIORITY IS TO CREATE DENSITY IN HOUSING. SLOW THE RISE OF COST OF HOUSING BUT YOU DO RUN UP AGAINST THE CHALLENGE ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES AND THE TIS IS A GREAT TOOL BUT TO MOST PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T ANSWER THE REALLY TOUGH QUESTIONS. SO RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M ORGANIZING A MEETING BETWEEN C.D.O.T. AND SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA TO TRY TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE THAT YOU CAN APPROVE THE THROUGHPUT OF A ROAD SIGNIFICANTLY BY IMPROVING THE INTERSECTIONS, WHICH IS WHERE THE STOPPAGES OCCUR. SO THEY WANT TO SEE MORE LANES. AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DOING THESE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE CREATING THESE TURN LANES, THAT WILL SPEED UP THE FLOW. SO I THINK IF WE AS COUNCIL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MESSAGE TO DELIVER FROM YOU, AND HOW TO EXPLAIN YOUR PROCESS, I THINK THAT HELPS. I MEAN, THE GROUPS I WAS TALKING TO HEARD THAT C.D.O.T. HAD ALREADY APPROVED THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THEY'RE GOING, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? THAT IS JUST RIDICULOUS. SO NOW, I NEED TO KIND OF TALK THEM DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE WHO ARE DUG IN, IS THEY ARE UNREALISTIC AND THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN A CONVERSATION. SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU SOFTEN THINGS UP TOALTERNATIVES? AND I'VE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, LOOK, THIS COULD GET SHOT DOWN, IT MAY WELL FELL FAIL, I DON'T LUKE -- LIKE IT RIGHT NOW. ALL OF YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS SHOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY OR STAY THE WAY IT IS OR BECOME A PARK, YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT CONVERSATION, THAT'S NOT WHERE IT'S HAPPENING. SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE UPDATED POLICY MAP. MY UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WAS THAT THERE IS AN ALIGNMENT AT -- AN ALIGNMENT PROCESS AND THERE'S AN AREA PLANNING PROCESS. I THOUGHT THAT THE UPDATED POLICY MAP WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS. ARE YOU NOW SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW ONE IN THE INTERIM? BEFORE THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS IS DONE? >> WE'RE SAYING WE'LL BE RELEASING A DRAFT. SO BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE ADOPT THE REFINED POLICY MAP IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUEST FOR COUNCIL. >>ED DRIGGS: RIGHT, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE UPDATE TO THE POLICY MAP, BUT IT WON'T CHANGE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY UNTIL RIGHT -- AND I JUST HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT YOUR TIMETABLE FOR THAT. I STILL THINK THOSE AREA PLANS ARE GOING TO PROVE TO BE A BEAR. ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO THE DETAIL. [ LAUGHTER ] SO IS THAT AGREEMENT OR JUST -- ( INAUDIBLE ) YEAH. >> I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS -- >>ED DRIGGS: I'LL ALSO MENTION I'M UP AGAINST HERE, WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE SOME PETITIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BEFORE. RIGHT? AND THEN SINCE THEY WERE SUBMITTED, THE POLICY MAP BECAME EFFECTIVE, THE PLACE IN QUESTION, THEN, GOT -- IF IT WAS A CONVENTIONAL -- YEAH, CONVENTIONAL REZONING, IT GOT THE NEW DESIGNATION PUT ON IT. WHICH MEANT THAT THE BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. BUT THE REZONING WILL BE CONSIDERED ACCORDING TO IN MY CASE UR RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT ADDS DIFFICULTY AND COMPLEXITY, BECAUSE WE ARE SO FAR INTO OUR 2040 PLAN AND OUR UDO, THAT THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD STRICTLY ADHERE TO THE OLD UR-2 CRITERIA WITHOUT REFERENCE TO THE NEW ONES, SO THAT'S ANOTHER DIFFICULTY. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE COULD TALK ABOUT, BUT THOSE ARE MY MAYBE EVENTS. THE THING WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF, WHAT WE WANT, THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE THE DEVELOP. WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE, IF PEOPLE WANT TOWN HOPES AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND BY MILLENNIALS OF APARTMENTS, WE NEED TO ALLOW THOSE TO GET BUILT. I'M HOPING THAT I'M PARDONED BY A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE, AND I HOPE WE FIND THIS ONE THAT I'M WRESTLING WITH IS NOT IDEAL AT THAT LOCATION, I DON'T LIKE IT, I HAVEN'T COMMITTED TO ANYBODY THAT I'M GOING SAY NO, BUT THE MESSAGE TO THE PETITIONER HAS BEEN WE WILL FIND OUT WHETHER THERE IS SOME SORT OF POTENTIAL FOR ENGAGEMENT AND CONVERGENCE AND I THINK THAT WOULD -- YOU COULD HELP WITH THAT, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? HAS JOHNSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? >>RENEE JOHNSON: WELL, YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. MS. CRAIG MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE LANGUAGE AROUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK IN THE 2024, AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR DECEMBER 22 INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT A REPORT AND TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, CUMULATIVE INSTRUCTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. BUT I WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN 2024 IS IN RESPONSE TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSION OR IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A RESPONSE OR REPORT IN RESPONSE TO THE 2022 MEETING? >> MS. DOBSON IS NOT HERE TODAY SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO FAR ALONG IN HER ABSENCE, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON THAT CONVERSATION, SHE PROVIDED A FOLLOWUP TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS FALL. IN TERMS OF THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON, YOU KNOW, ON EFFORTS THAT ARE COMPLIMENTARY, THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT REALLY JUST TO START TO HIGHLIGHT THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS AS WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY PROVIDE A FOLLOWUP ABOUT THE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE CONVERSATION AT A LATER TIME WHEN LIZ IS HERE. >>RENEE JOHNSON: I APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE AS MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, MANY TIMES, RESIDENTS -- IT'S NOT THE SUBJECT PETITION THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, BUT IT'S THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OR IT'S THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE DUE TO THE PASSAGE OF THE PREVIOUS PETITION. SO WE HAVE TO AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY REALLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, OR ELSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET PUSHBACK FROM RESIDENTS. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS AND THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS AND SAFETY, AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THESE, I THINK, IN A BALANCED APPROACH. THANK YOU. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND THAT'S THE PORTION OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSION THAT ALWAYS GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF WEEZ SI IN THE STOMACH. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IMPORTANT BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE, SEPARATE PERCEPTION FROM REALITY, AND EDUCATE IN THE FORM ALONG THE WAY. CERTAINLY, WANTED TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONVERSATION, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE REPORTS. INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO BE CITY-WIDE, IT CAN'T BE DISTRICT-BASED. RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND NOT ONE QUADRANT OF THE CITY AND IT'S A MUCH MORE BROADER CONVERSATION. AND A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SOLVE THE ISSUE RIGHT? IT'S -- AS YOU HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN YOUR POCKET AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE DEVELOPMENT ARE NOT AT THE SAME PACE. RIGHT? I THINK OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. BUT IT IS NOT AS BAD AS MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS THINK IT IS, IN SOME CASES AND I LIVE IN UNIVERSITY CITY, FOR 29 YEARS, THE GRID SYSTEM AND THINGS OVER THERE ARE PRETTY GOOD. COMPARED TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. AND SO I THINK -- A MUCH MORE BROADER CONVERSATION WHEN WE DO HAVE IT AND IT CAN'T JUST BE -- I MEAN, BECAUSE INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T RESPECT DISTRICT LINES, IT GOES OVER THE LINES. RIGHT? AND SO I JUST SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. >>ED DRIGGS: RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: YES, IT DOES. MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. >>ED DRIGGS: MS. JOHNSON? >>RENEE JOHNSON: YEAH AND I'M NOT -- I NEVER SAID THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN DISTRICT 4. THIS IS A CITYWIDE PROBLEM. BUT WHAT GETS MEASURED IS DONE BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN ASSESSING OR WE CAN'T EVEN GET THE REPORT ON WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE, WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO I'M SIMPLY SAYING -- I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT DOES THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY IT CAN BE MORE STRATEGIC IN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EDUCATING, WHAT ARE WE EDUCATING -- WHAT ARE WE EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE -- INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXPENSIVE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT? I'M SIMPLY SAYING LET'S GET A REPORT ON THE GROWTH IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS OR WHERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE ARE THE NEEDS? EVEN WITH THE TREE CANOPY, WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT SINCE 2019 OF THE NUMBERS. HOW MUCH HAS THE CITY GROWN AND HOW MANY TREES HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, CUT DOWN FROM 2019? WE NEED INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, I'M NOT -- I ADVOCATE FOR DISTRICT 4, WE ALL KNOW THAT, BUT I'M ADVOCATING FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, WE HEAR IT FROM ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THANK YOU. >>DANTE ANDERSON: I ALSO THINK, VERY VALID POINTS AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING. RIGHT? CHARLOTTE WATER FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WATER IS DOING, MAJOR PROJECTS, IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN DISTRICT 1. I TALKED TO RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME JUST HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, WHERE I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WHY IS THE CITY BEEN CLOSED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST EDUCATING ON THE FACT THAT YOU WANT THE CITY BLOCK TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO MANIFEST OUT OF THIS INVESTMENT. SO IF WE DO PRESENT GROWTH NUMBERS AND TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT OUR INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE DURING THAT SAID TIME PERIOD AS WELL. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: AND ONE LAST COMMENT. I MEAN, IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA THAT WE PASSED -- WELL, THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S SO MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN THERE. THAT WE VOTE ON EVERY MONDAY NIGHT. IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT IT PROS TO YOUR POINT THAT -- PROVES TO YOUR POINT THAT THERE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING CITYWIDE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, AND SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A BALANCED CONVERSATION, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T FEEL THE CONVERSATION IS BALANCED. >> IF I MAY? CHAIR? I WANT TO MAKE A -- COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT PLANNED AND PROGRAM FUNDED PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS FOR EACH COMMUNITY AREA PLAN. SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, WHAT'S PLANNED AND WHAT'S FUNDED. ANDOT JUST AN INFRASTRUCTURE CONVERSATION. IT'S A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION HERE' NEEDED OR HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS VISION. OR GROWTH. AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CONCENTRATE NEW GROWTH IN AREAS WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT IT? AND IT'S ALSO PROGRAMS, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T JUST HARD AND FAST, YOU KNOW, THIS INTERSECTION OR BICYCLE LANES, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HELP TO SUPPORT OUR VISION AS WELL. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTAL PARTNERS LIKE C.D.O.T. AIRPORT FIRE POLICE CMS, PARKS AND REC, THEY'LL ALL BE THERE IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO SAY HERE'S WHAT'S PLANNED AND HERE'S WHAT'S FUNDED. WHAT ARE YOUR BIG IDEAS? BUT NOT NECESSARILY GETTING INTO THE COST OR ANYTHING, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANNINGS, DO, THEY DON'T PROMISE A COST OR A PROJECT. THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED OR WHAT'S POSSIBLE. SO FOLKS WILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME EDGUCATING PEOPLE. >> AND I'LL QUICK, TOO, ANOTHER PLUG FOR THE DEVELOPMENT NEAR ME APP. SO THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GO IN TO AREAS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT IS GOING ON AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR AROUND THE PLACES WHERE YOU LIVE, WORK, PLAY OR CARE ABOUT. THAT IT ALSO HAS ALL OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN YOUR SEAR, SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE INVESTMENTS LIKE FOR YOURSELF, EXACTLY WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS, THE CONTACT INFORMATION, TOO, SO DEVELOPMENT NEAR ME APP IS A GREAT WAY TO SEE SOME OF THAT STUFF VISUALLY. >>ED DRIGGS: I WILL JUST MENTION, TOO, MS. JOHNSON, WE HAVE AS A COUNCIL, A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE KIND OF SPECIFIC AND STRUCTURED IN OUR REQUESTS FROM THE STAFF. WE HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT IT TAKES A MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL TO INITIATE AN ACTION THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF STAFF TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS WOULD BE FOR ONE, TO WRITE DOWN, YOU KNOW, VERY CLEARLY, WHAT KIND OF REPORT IS EXPECTED AND THEN AT A COUNCIL MEETING, TO GET A MAJORITY OF US TO SUPPORT SUBMITTING THAT REQUEST TO STAFF SO THAT THEY DON'T GET INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH DIFFERENT PRIORITIES ASKING FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, IT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN FORMALIZE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STAFF A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON THE THINGS THAT THE MAJORITY OF US WANT TO SEE DONE FIRST. OTHERWISE, IF I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE, I THINK I'M READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>ED DRIGGS: OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, LET'S GO. [ MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:30 ] TEST TEST >> WE'RE LIVE, MS. CHAIR. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: I CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> YOU CAN'T HEAR US NOW? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: NO, I CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL. I'M READING THE CAPTION AT THE BOTTOM. >> OKAY. WE CAN HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER AJMERA, BUT SHE CAN'T HEAR US. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: FOR THOSE ONLINE, CAN YOU HEAR ME OR CAN YOU HEAR ANYONE FROM THE ROOM. >> YES, NELSON, I CAN HEAR IN THE ROOM AND THE CHAIR. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: SO SHE JUST CAN'T HEAR US IN THE ROOM. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: I SEE CAPTIONS THAT SAYS ONLINE, SOME OF THEM ARE ABLE TO HEAR IN THE ROOM AND ME, BUT I'M NOT ABLE TO HEAR ANYONE FROM THE ROOM. >> DID YOU ADJUST YOUR VOLUME. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: LET ME LOG BACK IN AND SEE IF THAT HELPS. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE ADJUSTED YOUR VOLUME EARLIER. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THEY CAN'T TYPE THAT FAST. [ LAUGHTER ] >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: MODERN TECHNOLOGY, ISN'T IT GRAND? >> HAVE HER CALL IN ON THE PHONE. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: ALL RIGHT, I'M BACK. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: CAN YOU HEAR US? >>DIMPLE AJMERA: NO, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> CHECK THE VOLUME ON YOUR COMPUTER? >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: DIMPLE, YOU CAN ALSO TRY TO CALL ON YOUR PHONE, MAYBE GET THE AUDIO ON YOUR PHONE? -- >> SHE CAN READ US. DIMPLE, TRY TO CALL ON YOUR PHONE AND GET AUDIO AS A SUBSTITUTE. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THIS IS GOING TAKE A MINUTE. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: YES, THAT WORKS. >> YOU CAN HEAR US NOW. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: MS. ANDERSON AND MS. MAYFIELD, DO YOU WANT TO LEAD? >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCIL MEMBER AJMERA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS LAUREN. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: NO, I CANNOT HEAR YOU, LAUREN. I WILL WORK WITH THE I.T. TO FIGURE OUT THIS OUT, I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP EVERYONE ELSE, SO IF MS. ANDERSON AND MS. MAYFIELD, IF Y'ALL CAN JUST START THE DISCUSSION. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: YES. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: AND I WILL FIGURE THIS OUT WITH I.T. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER AJMERA, IF WE CAN DO TO QUICK INTRODUCTIONS GOING AROUND THE ROOM, STARTING ON OUR BACK WALL? >> MY NAME IS -- BLACKMON, I'M WITH THE CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY ( INAUDIBLE ). >> I'M JOHNNY -- CONTRACT LOBBYIST ON BEHALF OF THE CITY ( INAUDIBLE ). >> TREASURER FOR THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE. >> CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY TEAM. >> DANA FENTON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. >> STRATEGY AND BUDGET. >> LOUIE MOORE, BUDGET AND FINANCE MANAGER FOR SOLID WASTE. >> CFO AND FINANCE. >> LAWANA MAYFIELD, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> DANTE ANDERSON, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> ETHAN SMITH, STRATEGY AND BUDGET. >> MARIE HARRIS STRATEGY AND BUDGET. >> ( INAUDIBLE ) STRATEGY AND BUDGET. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THANK YOU, EVERYONE. PER CHAIR MEMBER'S AJMERA'S COMMENTS, UNTIL SHE'S ABLE TO JOIN US, WE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING STARTED, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN AND OUR APOLOGIES FOR RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE WITH TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. BUT GOING TO START WITH TERESA SMITH WITH THE UPDATE ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT ALLOCATIONS. >> THANK YOU. AGAIN, I'M TERESA SMITH, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND TODAY, I HAVE WITH ME, LOUIE MOORE FROM SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND BEFORE I GET STARTED, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO LOUIE, WE HAVE -- WE TALK ABOUT HAVING SOME REMARKABLE STAFF AROUND THE CITY. AND I THINK LOUIE HAS BEEN A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT. WHEN COVID STARTED AND THE FUNDS STARTED TO COME THIS WAY, WE TAPPED A TEAM OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY TO WORK ON THE FINANCIAL RECORDING AND REPORTING AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN, AND LOUIE STEPPED UP AND FOR WHAT THREE YEARS NOW, SOLID WASTE HAS LOANED HIM TO BE MY PARTNER IN CRIME AS WE'VE DONE THE RECORDING AND REPORTING OF THESE, I WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SLIDE. SO AS A BACKGROUND, YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT THE CITY RECEIVED 141.6 MILLION IN THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, WHICH WE SHORT HAND REFER TO AS ARPA FUNDS. THE FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED TO THE CITY IN TWO INSTALLMENTS OF $70.8 MILLION, THE FIRST ONE THAT GOT PAID TO US IN 2021 AND THEN THE SECOND ONE CAME APPROXIMATELY A YEAR LATER IN 2022. AND THAT WAS CASH THAT WE RECEIVED. SO UNLIKE SOME OF YOUR REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS, WHERE YOU SPEND AND YOU GET REIMBURSEMENT, THIS ONE, THE CASH ACTUALLY CAME FIRST. AND THEN WE SPEND AFTER. NEXT SLIDE. SO COUNCIL ESTABLISHED FOUR PRIORITIES, INVESTMENT CATEGORIES FOR THIS MONEY. THOSE WERE HOUSING, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND JOBS, COMMUNITY VITALITY AND THEN A PORTION FOR CITY OPERATIONS. FAREWELL WELL EVENLY SPREAD ACROSS THOSE CATEGORIES WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE GOING TO THE HOUSING CATEGORY AT 33% OF THOSE FUNDS. NEXT SLIDE. SO CURRENTLY, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES LOOK LIKE. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS UNPROGRAMMED. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT TWO OF THE CATEGORIES, THE HOUSING AND THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HAVE SOME UNPROGRAMMED MONEYS REMAINING, AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN USING HERE WHERE PROJECTS COME FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THEN YOU WILL APPROVE THOSE AS WE GO. WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS THE TIME LINE FOR SPENDING. SO AGAIN, A LITTLE REMINDER HERE THAT ARPA WAS SIGNED INTO LAW IN THE SPRING OF 2021. WE GOT OUR FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THAT MONEY, WHICH WAS THE 70.8 MILLION, WE GOT THAT IN THE SUMMER. THEN IN THE SUMMER OF 2022, WE GOT THE SECOND INSTALLMENT. AND SO NOW, WE'RE IN THIS PERIOD BETWEEN RECEIVING THE MONEY AND THEN DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024, WHICH IS WHEN ALL OF THE MONEY HAS TO BE OBLIGATED, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE PROGRAMMING, AND THEN ONCE THINGS ARE PROGRAMMED, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING ON OBLIGATING THAT MONEY AND WHAT WE MEAN BY OBLIGATED IS THAT IT EITHER HAS TO BE SPENT OR IT HAS TO BE ENCUMBERED SO THE CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED WITH WHOEVER THE PARTNER IS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. THIS IS A DEADLINE FOR THE ARPA MONEY. SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE OBLIGATED BY 12/31 OF 24 AND THEN IT HAS TO BE SPENT SO ALL OF THE CASH HAS TO BE OUT THE DOOR BY 12 WE WANTED TO SHARE. SO TO DATE, THE CITY HAS COLLECTED 4.6 MILLION IN INVESTMENT EARNINGS, SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON, IN THIS CASE, WE RECEIVED THE CASH UP FRONT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO INVEST THAT IN A WAY WHERE WE COULD EASILY TRACK THE INVESTMENT EARNINGS. THE U.S. TREASURY GUIDANCE, WHICH WE HAVE CONSULTED, DOES NOT PUT ANY RESTRICTIONS ON HOW WE USE THIS MONEY OR HOW WE REPORT THIS SPEND. SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS TODAY. >> IT IS. >> AND WITH THAT, I WILL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: MADAM CHAIR, HAVE YOU HAD ACCESS TO HEAR US? I KNOW THIS IS BEING TYPED UP, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS FIRST? SHE CAN READ THE -- >> THE TYPING. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: YEAH, OKAY. MARIE, WILL YOU BE THE ONE THAT WILL BE -- >> ( INAUDIBLE ). >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: BECAUSE WE CAN HEAR US, SHE JUST CAN'T HEAR US. >> ( INAUDIBLE ). >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER -- >> UNMUTE MS. AJMERA, LOOKS LIKE SHE'S MUTED. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON? >>DANTE ANDERSON: YES, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. AND REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE 4.6 MILLION IN INTEREST. MY QUESTION IS: ARE THERE ANY POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS FOR THE ALLOCATION OF THOSE FUNDS? OR WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD STILL SIT ON IT AND ALLOW IT TO DRAW INTEREST? OR IS THERE AN INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US? >> SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS THAT YOU'VE BEEN USING. AND CONSIDER THINGS AS THEY COME UP. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. BUT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT MONEY WAS AVAILABLE AS A POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATION GOING FORWARD. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A FOLLOWUP QUESTION. THANK YOU. FOR THE GOOD NEWS. YEAH, WE HAVE SOME MONEY. ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COUNCIL PRIORITIES, THE ON PROGRAM FUNDING, YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE 9.5 MILLION, 6.5 IN HOUSING AND ANOTHER 3 MILLION WORKFORCE, THIS 6.5, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT NUMBER INCLUDING THE MOST RECENT ALLOCATION THAT WE DID LAST MONDAY? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR TOTAL FOR THE HOUSING CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE ABOUT 6.5 MILLION LEFT, PLUS THE 3 MILLION GIVING US THE TOTAL OF 9.5 MILLION TO DATE, THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR ALLOCATIONS. >> YES. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: AND MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>BRAXTON WINSTON: ( INAUDIBLE ). >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: YES, RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: BUILDING ON MS. ANDERSON'S QUESTION, AND I KNOW ACTUALLY, MS. ANDERSON HAS MADE THIS SUGGESTION AND I THINK -- I FORGOT WHEN WE HAD THE COUNCIL CONVERSATION, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DURING THE BUDGET TIME, BUT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE INTEREST RATES, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMICS OF NOW, WHAT WE'RE FACING. PUTTING THAT 4.6 MILLION FR FOR INSTANCE, IN A 12-MONTH CD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO, FOR REAL. ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S ENCUMBERED RIGHT? YOU HAVE THAT DEFINED INTEREST THAT IS COMING BACK, LET'S SAY WE DID IT TODAY, RIGHT? OCTOBER TO OCTOBER, THIS IS ENCUMBERED BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SPENT ON SOMETHING ELSE, IS THAT A VIABLE PATHWAY, TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE 5% MORE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN GET, AND THEN WE INTEND O TO SPEND IT ON HOUSING OR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING, ONCE WE PULL IT BACK OUT, IS THAT A VIABLE PATH FORWARD? . >> I WILL SAY THAT STATE STATUTES LIMIT ON HOW WE CAN INVEST THE MONEY, SO RIGHT NOW, IT IS INVESTED IN SUCH A WAY TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN EARN ALREADY. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: OKAY. >> WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WITHIN THE STATE STATUTE THAT COULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE RETURN. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT'S OUT THERE, BUT I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> AND JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THIS MONEY IS NOT INSIDE OF THE AWARD AMOUNT, YOU ARE NOT RESTRICTED ON THE TIME LINE. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: OH. >> OTHER MONEY HAS THE TIME LINE ON IT, YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTED ON THIS MONEY. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: OKAY. >> EFFECTIVELY FREE MONEY THAT WE HAVE, SO COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON. >>DANTE ANDERSON: WHAT I WOULD -- BUILDING ON WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM JUST STATED, WHAT I WILL SAY IS GIVEN THE FISCAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN, AND, YOU KNOW, THE FED NOT RAISING INTEREST RATES RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WANT TO RAISE THE INTEREST RATES BY TEND OF THE YEAR. -- THE END OF THE YEAR. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, I WOULD SAY, IN THE LAST TEN YEARS WHERE JUST THE ABILITY TO ACCRUE ACTUAL INTEREST MONEY IS DIFFERENT. RIGHT? IT'S A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN NOW. RELATIVE TO LIKE 10-20 YEARS AGO SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAXIMIZE THIS WINDOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S GOING TO CLOSE RIGHT, LIKE, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, IT'S GOING TO -- THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MOVEMENT. BUT IN THE IMMEDIATE SHORT-TERM, THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO HOLD STEADY, AND POTENTIALLY RISE, SO I SAY, LET'S TRY TO MAXIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. SO WHEN WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXECUTE THESE DOLLARS, WE'LL HAVE A LARGER NUMBER TO PLAY WITH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THIS REPORT OUT. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING EVEN MORE, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY ON POINT AND ON TRACK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENT. BY PRESENTING US THE REALITY THAT WE'VE ■ALREADY HAVE COLLECTED 4.6 MILLION, YOU'RE ALREADY ON THAT TRACK, I TRUST THE PROCESS FOR YOU ALL TO CONTINUE MAKING THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. MADAM CHAIR? ARE YOU ABLE TO CHIME IN. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: YES. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: OKAY. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: I'M BACK. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR NEEDING THE DISCUSSION, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A SLIDE. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MS. CFO. COULD YOU GO BACK TO A SLIDE, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I FOE THERE WERE TWO TRANCHES OF ARPA DOLLARS AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT AND HOW MUCH IS REMAINING ACCRUING INTEREST? >> SO. >> SLIDE 4. >> DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER? SO OUT OF THE 141.6 MILLION, THERE'S STILL 77.3 MILLION THAT IS UNSPENT CASH. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING INVESTED RIGHT NOW. WHERE WE'RE EARNING THE INTEREST EARNINGS IS THE 77.3 MILLION. >> THANK YOU. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROGRAMMED, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SPENT THE DOLLARS. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: GOT IT. >> WE HAVE A LARGER BUCKET -- UNSPENT. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: UNSPENT. GOT IT. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S UNPROGRAMMED, IS THAT CORRECT? >> NO, THERE IS 9.5 MILLION THAT IS UNPROGRAMMED. AND THAT'S ON THE SLIDE THAT IS UP NOW, 6.5 MILLION FROM HOUSING. AND 3 MILLION IN THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND JOBS. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: GOT IT. SO DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE COUNCIL WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS UNPROGRAMMED $9.5 MILLION AND THE STRATEGY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE DOLLARS? >> I DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITE TIME LINE FOR YOU ON THAT. >> I WILL SAY, MADAM CHAIR, THAT I KNOW WITH THE RECENT HIRING OF OUR NEW WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT LEAD, I KNOW SHE'S DOING WORK NOW TO CURATE HER PLAN. AND THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE A PART OF THE EXECUTION OF HER PLAN FOR THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: FOR THE HIRE CHARLOTTE. >> YEAH, THAT 3 MILLION -- YEAH. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: AND I KNOW FOR $6.5 MILLION, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE MR. BERGMAN IN THE ROOM, TODAY, I KNOW WE ARE GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS, WE RECENTLY HAD APPROVED FOR -- FREEDOM FIGHTING MINISTRIES, MISSIONARIES AND THAT ALL WENT -- THOSE WERE ALL ALLOCATED THROUGH OUR ARPA BUCKET. ASSUMING THAT ADDITIONAL 6.5 MILLION WILL BE COMING IN FROM THE COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, SO MS. -- THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING PLANNED, COULD YOU JUST LET THE COMMITTEE KNOW? >> YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE 6.5 MILLION THAT IS REMAINING HAS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR YOUR MOST RECENT APPROVALS. THAT YOU MENTIONED. AND SO THIS 6.5 MILLION IS LEFT TO STILL BRING IN FRONT OF YOU AT A FUTURE DATE. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: GREAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OH, OTHER THING. I KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN WOULD ANY OF THIS HAVE AN IMPACT, I MEAN, FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SENT TO THE CITY, BUT IN TERMS OF -- IS THERE A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHERE THE SHUTDOWN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DELAY ANY OF OUR -- ANY OF OUR CURRENT PLANS? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO US. AS I SAID, THEY'RE BEING INVESTED. SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY WITH US. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE QUARTERLY REPORTING THAT IS REQUIRED AROUND THE -- AND ANNUAL, THERE'S A LOT OF REPORTING THAT GOES INTO THESE FUNDS SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, PLAN ON WORKING TOWARDS THAT TIME LINE OF 12/31/2026 FOR HAVING EVERYTHING SPENT. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: OKAY. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: MADAM CHAIR? I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER BASED ON YOUR QUESTIONS AND A STATEMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF WE CAN REQUEST FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, GIVE US AN UPDATE FROM BOTH HOUSING AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE LEADER IN THAT ROLE. BUT SO THAT WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF THIS BUDGETED 29.7. HOW MUCH OF THAT, THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE NOT LOOKING AT THE REMAINING, LOOKING AT OUR INITIAL ALLOCATION OF 32.7 AND WHAT WE BUDGETED, TO GET AN UPDATE ON THOSE BUDGETED PROJECTS. SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HAVE A CLEARER IDEA OF WHERE THE FUNDING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO GO. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MADAM >>DIMPLE AJMERA: MS. MAYFIELD, THANK YOU FOR -- ( INAUDIBLE ) AND I REMEMBER THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS RECEIVED PERIODIC UPDATES ON THAT, BUT IF -- I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MS. ANDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING THIS TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE? OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO JUST GO AHEAD AND REVIEW WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND UPDATE OUR COLLEAGUES ON THIS COMMITTEE? >> YES, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO AS A FIRST STEP IS REVIEW WHAT WE HAVE. AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THE STAFF AND ASK YOU GUYS FOR AN ADDITIONAL ASK. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: YEAH, SO MS. MAYFIELD, IF YOU COULD JUST ASK MR. BERGMAN TO PROVIDE US A REPORT THAT WAS -- THERE WAS A PRESENTATION TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, NOT LAST MONTH, I BELIEVE A MONTH BEFORE, ON THIS $32.7 MILLION ALLOCATION TOWARDS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND JOBS AND OUT OF THAT, 29.7 HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED AND THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN OF HOW EACH DOLLAR HAS BEEN ALLOCATED AND THE REMAINING $3 MILLION IN THE PLAN, THERE IS A DOC SOMEWHERE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS, IF WE COULD PROVIDE THAT TO THE BUDGET AND GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> SURE, WE CAN DO AND THAT WE'LL GET THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION FOR YOU. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: MS. MAYFIELD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ALSO SEE THAT FOR HOUSING OR JUST WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND JOBS? I KNOW YOU SERVE ON THE HOUSING. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: CORRECT. AND FOR THAT COMMITTEE, IT WILL BE HELPFUL AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: OKAY. SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD -- IF YOU'RE AT THIS, MIGHT AS WELL GET ALL $141.6 MILLION, GO AHEAD AND GET THE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION, THAT PRETTY MUCH BREAKS DOWN HOUSING, WOFK DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY VITALITY AND CITY OPERATIONS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO THAT WE -- WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE FROM THE COMMITTEE. >> UH-HUH. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: AWESOME. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA. WE HAVE STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, THAT MS. FENTON WILL BE PROVIDING US AN UPDATE ON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. FENTON. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH A STATE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING, AND DURING THIS UPDATE, JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT AGAIN, JOHN EASTERLING FROM KT STRATEGIES IS SITTING BEHIND ME, AND ALSO, NELSON FREEMAN FROM KT STRATEGY IS ONLINE. SO IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. AND WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH A QUICK GENERAL ASSEMBLY UPDATE AND THEN, TALKING ABOUT THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL. AND OUTLINE THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR COMMITTEE CALENDAR. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE GREAT NEWS IS THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS PASSED A BUDGET, CASINO GAMING IS NOT PART OF THE BUDGET. THAT TURNED INTO A REAL TOUGH ISSUE IN THE LAST FOUR WEEKS BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. AND EVENTUALLY, THEY CAME TO THE DECISION TO TAKE IT OUT. THERE IS $20 MILLION IN THE BUDGET FOR PROJECT BREAK POINT. AND WE KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF THE DELEGATION WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET THAT AND THAT'S A GREAT WIN FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND THEN I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT AMERICAN AIRLINES IS VERY, VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE FUEL SALES TAX EXCEPTION EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING FOR THEM. THE GOVERNOR HAS STATED THAT HE WILL ALLOW THE BUDGET BILL TO BECOME LAW WITHOUT HIS SIGNATURE. HE HAS NOTED SEVERAL THINGS THAT HE TAKES EXCEPTION WITH IN THE BUDGET. AND FOR THAT REASON, HE'S NOT GOING TO SIGN IT, AND IT SHOULD BE LAW BY THE END OF DAY TODAY. TODAY IS THE 10th DAY FOR HIM TO ACT. ANOTHER THING THAT ONE REASON WHY HE'S NOT VETOING IT IS MEDICAID EXPANSION. THE ENACTMENT OR THE ACTUAL TRIGGERING OF MEDICAID EXPANSION WAS TIED TO AN ENACTMENT OF A STATE BUDGET AND HE DID ANNOUNCE LAST WEEK THAT MEDICAID WILL LAUNCH HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA ON DECEMBER 1. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN THE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AREA, THERE IS FULL FUNDING IN THERE FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND THE STATE MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. FOR TRANSIT, BUT THE REDUCED FUNDING FOR THE POWELL BILL REMAINS. IT'S AT TWO-THIRDS OF OUR FISCAL YEAR 2020 ALLOCATION. AND THEN THERE'S AN ITEM THAT THE STRATEGY AND BUDGET MANAGER WANTED ME TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE UPDATES FROM THE WEEK BEFORE LAST. AND BOND REFERENDUM LANGUAGE. AND WE GO OUT WITH BOND REFERENDUMS, GENERALLY, EVERY TWO YEARS. AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IS REQUIRED IN THAT BALLOT QUESTION, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AFTER THIS NOVEMBER, SO THE CURRENT BOND REFERENDUM, WE HAVE IN NOVEMBER, IS UNAFFECTED BY THIS, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS BY IT. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WATCH THIS NEXT YEAR TO SEE WHAT THE -- IT IS EFFECT ON THIS LANGUAGE ON FUTURE BOND REFRN DUP -- REFERENDUMS STARTING IN 2024. SOME THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN REQUIRED TO DATE, INCLUDING THE CUMULATIVE COST OF THE PRINCIPLE, THE DEBT, YOU -- YOU JUST HAVE ON THERE WHAT THE PRINCIPLE IS. WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS. WHETHER IT'S 50 MILLION OR 100 MILLION FOR A CERTAIN TOPIC. YOU ALSO HAVE THE INTEREST ON THERE, WHICH IS KIND OF A DIFFICULT THING TO -- YOU CAN EASILY COMPUTE IT, BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE YEARS. THERE HAS TO BE AWE STATEMENT THAT PROPERTY TAXES MAY BE LEVIED TO PAY THE PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST, IT'S A -- IT REALLY IS -- I'LL CALL IT A CRAP SHOOT AS TO WHETHER THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE CORRECT OR NOT. IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS. SO ANYWAYS. THE GOOD THING IS IT TAKES AFFECT THIS CALENDAR YEAR, AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT OUR BOND REFERENDUM, NOR DOES IT AFFECT THE CMS BOND REFERENDUM. FOR SCHOOLS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE, BUT IT WASN'T THERE, AND FOR GOOD REASON, IS THE MEALS TAX EXTENSION. THERE IS LEGISLATION THAT IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH, THAT HAS ALL OF THE OCCUPANCY TAX IN MEALS TAX CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN IT. AND THAT'S NORMALLY WHERE YOU WILL SEE THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. IN THE TIMES BEFORE, WHEN THE MEALS TAX HAS BEEN UPDATED, IT DURING MY TENURE, IT HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE BUDGET. IT COULD BE IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT ISN'T. AND JOHN RATCHFORD WAS TRYING TO FIND THE BEST VEHICLE POSSIBLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND WE HAVE IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION. AND BOTH OF THEM ARE AWAITING SENATE ACTION. HOUSE AND SENATE ACTION, EXCUSE ME. AND THE -- AND THERE'S NOTHING -- NOTHING WITH THIS ISSUE HERE IN MECKLENBURG THAT IS CAUSING IT TO BE SLOWED DOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE IN ANOTHER COUNTY UNRELATED TO THE MECKLENBURG MEALS TAX THAT IS HELD UP AT THIS POINT. BUT WE SHOULD -- WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE SEEING ACTION ON THAT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK I SPOKEN WITH YOU ALL BEFORE ABOUT THE REGULATORY REFORM ACT. AND HOW SENATOR SALVADOR HELPED TO GET AN AMENDMENT TO ENSURE THAT STORMWATER WOULD NOT BE HIT WITH A $17 MILLION MANDATE EACH YEAR, THAT BILL HAS -- WAS APPROVED BY THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. IT'S CONFERENCE REPORT. THE WEEK BEFORE LAST AND IT'S BEEN SENT TO THE GOVERNOR FOR HIS CONSIDERATION AND TODAY IS THE 10th DAY FOR HIM TO ACT, I DON'T THINK AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT -- ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN OR WHETHER HE'S GOING TO SIGN IT, VETO IT OR ALLOW IT TO BECOME LAW. SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW, THAT THEY'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET, THE HOUSE AND SENATE ARE PIVOTING TO REDISRICTING, THEY'LL BE DRAWING UP NEW MAPS, HOUSE, SENATE, NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE AND NORTH CAROLINA SENATE, PLUS OUR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAPS. AND SANDRA BURKER SAID HE HOPES VOTES COULD BE TAKEN PLACE AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK, I TEND TO THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW WEEKS TO GET THAT DONE. BUT WE WILL SEE. WELL SEE. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE STILL ON THE TABLE, THAT HASN'T BEEN DEALT WITH YET, THEY COULD -- THEY COULD BE DEALT WITH NEXT YEAR, DURING THE SHORT SESSION OR COULD BE AT ANY TIME WHEN THEY MEET. BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME. FOR EXAMPLE, THE LANDLORD TENANT BILL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT IN THIS COMMITTEE. IT'S PASSED THE HOUSE, BUT IT HAS BEEN TAKEN UP BY THE SENATE. AND OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE BRADFORD DID PUT AN MDMENT IN THERE AT OUR REQUEST, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION POLICY COULD CONTINUE. AND ANOTHER BILL IS THE LAND USE CLARIFICATIONS BILL THAT THIS IS ONE THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN AWAY ALL THE ETJ POWERS FROM THE CITIES AROUND THE STATES. AND IT CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF OPPOSITION TO THAT. AND ESPECIALLY FROM COUNTIES. LIKE MECKLENBURG COUNTY, NEW PLANNING, IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE UP THE PLANNING, THEY WERE ADAMANTLY PROPOSED TO THAT. AND THERE'S AN AMENDMENT IN THERE THAT THE LARGER COUNTIES LIKE MECKLENBURG, THAT THE ETJS WILL CONTINUE AS THEY HAVE BEEN. AND THEN, THE LAST ONE, THERE WAS A -- ACTUALLY, A COUPLE ON THE NEXT PAGE, TOO. THERE IS THE PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER'S BILL. OR WE CALL IT PBM FOR SHORT. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR MILLION DOLLAR COST INCREASE IN THERE, IT'S NOT AMENDED, THE HOUSE SPONSOR HAS AGREED TO THAT. TO AMEND IT. SO THAT WE'RE NOT AFFECTED. THAT CITIES LIKE US WITH OUR SELF-FUNDED PLANS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THAT. AND REPRESENTATIVE CUNNINGHAM HAS BEEN GREAT ON THIS ONE, SHE WAS WORKING WITH THE BILL SPONSOR ON THAT. AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT, AND ALSO ON THE PREVIOUS ONE, SENATE BILL 675. SENATOR MUHAMMAD WAS HELPFUL ON GETTING THAT AS WELL. AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE. AND THERE'S A FEW MORE BILLS WE'RE STILL WATCHING, THE BACK FLOW PREVENTERS BILL WITH CHARLOTTE WATER, REALLY HAS ISSUES WITH. BECAUSE BACK FLOW PREVERNLTS ARE A SAFETY ISSUE. NOT NECESSARILY JUST AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE, AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S GOING TO A STAKEHOLDERS GROUP TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND WE HAD THE BLESSING OF THE FLOOR MANAGER IN THE HOUSE, ALSO THE SENATE BILL SPONSOR AS WELL. SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THIS ONE. ANOTHER COUPLE OF BILLS WE'RE WATCHING, THE REGULATION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN YOUR NEWLY ENACTED OR EFFECT IVE URBN -- UDO, I'LL JUST USE THE ACRONYM, THANK YOU. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE, THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE ADU'S ON THEIR PROPERTIES AND THIS LEGISLATION WOULD HAVE REQUIRED EVERYBODY TO ALLOW ADU'S BUT THE PROBLEM WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT ARE PUT INTO LEGISLATION, THEY USUALLY PUT A LOT OF RULES AROUND IT. AND SO IT'S THOSE RULES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME AMENDMENTS TO. AND WE WERE WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE RENETA ALSO STON, FORMERLY OF THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL, THE SECOND TERM IN THE HOUSE. AND JOHN AND I TALKED WITH HER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT THIS, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU. AT SOME POINT, IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, THAT IS. AND THEN, A COUPLE OF BILLS THAT ARE TRYING TO LOWER THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST XHESH, BUT MULTIFAMILY, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. AND BOTH OF THESE BILLS PASSED THE HOUSE, OVER IN THE SENATE AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN HELP AFFECT IT SO IT'S NOT -- SO THAT IT BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES NOW, BOTH OF THESE BILLS SHIFT THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT FROM THE BUILDER TO THE TAXPAYERS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE ITER YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES THAT YOU CHARGE TO DEVELOPERS TO GET BUILDING PERMITS IN DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND AS WE TRANSITION TO NEXT YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY IT SEEMS LIKE IS GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR. THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT, THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH CAROLINA, THE OTHER COUNCIL AND STATE OFFICES, EVERY MEMBER OF THE NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND OTHERS ACROSS THE STATE, IT'S GOING TO BE A SHORT SESSION FOR BOTH NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND ALSO THE U.S. CONGRESS. THE CONGRESS WILL HAVE LONGER AND MORE FREQUENT IN STATE AND DISTRICT WORK VARIANCE, SO IT'S A -- IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE YEARS, AND SO THEIR FOCUS NEXT YEAR, BOTH IN RALEIGH AND WASHINGTON IS TO GET THE WORK THEY COULDN'T GET DONE THIS YEAR FINISHED UP. AND SO WE'LL HAVE A SHORT SESSION IN RALEIGH, STARTS IN MID MAY. THE OTHER U.S. CONGRESSMAN STARTED ABOUT THE SAME TIME BUT AGAIN BETWEEN THEN AND THE TIME THEY ADJOURN IN DECEMBER, MORE FREQUENT AND LONGER INSTATE AND DISTRICT WORK PERIODS. SO THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA PROCESS. I'LL JUST REMINED YOU ALL TOO THAT WE HAVE A COUNCIL ELECTION THIS YEAR, I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW IT. WE ALL KNOW IT. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT OF COURSE THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS RESHUFFLES OF WHO'S ON WHICH COMMITTEES AND SO FORTH, AND THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER CHANGES AS WELL. AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IN JANUARY WITH THE STAFF OR DEPARTMENT PROPOSED ISSUES TO THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER FOR THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AND THEN WE WOULD BE REQUESTING THE COMMITTEE TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE REQUESTS. AND OTHER REQUESTS THAT YOU RECEIVE, YOU MAY RECEIVE SOME DIRECTIVES FROM COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT CERTAIN ISSUE FOR THESE AGENDAS. TO MAKE A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWED BY -- IF WE KEEP THE SAME FORMAT OF COURSE, A LOT OF CAVEATS IN HERE, COMMITTEE, IF YOU HAVE A COUNCIL COMMITTEE DISCUSSION THAT NIGHT, A CHANCE FOR THE CHAIR TO PRESENT THAT. OR TO REPORT IT OUT, I SHOULD SAY. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING, AT THE FIRST BUSINESS MEETING, STAFF WOULD BE PRESENTING THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE AGENDAS TO THE COUNCIL. AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING, WE WOULD LOOK FOR AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDAS, AND LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU, TOO, WE'VE GOT A TIGHT TIME FRAME BETWEEN THE DATE OF ADOPTION, WHICH WILL BE IN LATE FEBRUARY, SOMETIME, AND THE SCHEDULE FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA -- NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN D.C., ONLY A TWO-WEEK BREAK THIS TIME. YOU REMEMBER THIS YEAR, EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY MET IN LATE MARCH. I LIKE THE LATE MARCH DATE BETTER MYSELF SERIOUSLY. BUT ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T LIKE ALL OF THE -- ALL OF THE POLLEN FROM THE TREES THERE, FOR THE CHERRY BLOSSOMS, OF COURSE, A LOT OF US DIDN'T, I SHOULD SAY. BUT ANYWAYS, MARCH 11th WILL STILL DO, BUT STILL WE HAVE I A TIGHT TIME FRAME THERE, SO. WE'LL NEED TO GET -- WE'LL NEED TO AT LEAST GET THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDAS ADOPTED FOR THOSE EVENTS. AND THEN, WE WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING PROBABLY IN APRIL AT A STATE DELEGATION MEETING AS WELL. AND THEN OF COURSE FOLLOWED UP BE THE START OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN MAY, MID MAY SOMETIME. SO. WHAT I DON'T HAVE IN THERE AS WELL IS THAT IN EARLY MARCH BEFORE THE CONGRESSIONAL BRIEFINGS, THAT'S WHEN THE PRIMARIES ARE GOING TO BE FOR FOLKS WHO ARE RUNNING ON THE BALLOT NEXT NOVEMBER. ANYWAY. SO IT'S GOING TO BE -- IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR BUSY WEEKS THERE, LET'S SAY THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] SO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE IS THE ALL-IMPORTANT CALENDAR. BASICALLY, THE SAME EVENTS, SAME DATES AND I DO HAVE SOME OTHERS IN THERE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I HAVE THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING FOR THAT -- FOR THE NEW CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 4th. AND OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ABOUT IT. AND MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I'LL BE GLAD TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: MADAM CHAIR, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MAYOR PRO TEM WINSTON AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MAYFIELD. MR. FENLTEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE -- FENTON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WEEKLY UPDATES, I DO READ THOSE RELIGIOUSLY, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON OUR STATE AND OUR FEDERAL BUDGET EAR EARLIER LAST WEEK. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THERE ARE SOME WINS THAT WE HAVE, I APPRECIATE REPRESENTATIVE BRADFORD'S WORK ON THE PROJECT BREAK POINT. I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS ALLOCATION OF $20 MILLION FOR THIS TENNIS FACILITY. I KNOW THAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR $25-30 MILLION. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION ON IF THE STATE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT GAP IN A SHORT SESSION? POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE? >> YEAH, THAT'S A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE WEEKLY REPORTS. AND ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY, OR PROBABLY SAY IN THE NEXT ONE, I'LL SAY RIGHT NOW, I'M GLAD WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN HERE TODAY. SO ANYWAYS. BUT IN TERMS OF ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PROJECT BREAK POINT, I KNOW THAT -- I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MY SKI HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW FOLKS WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AMOUNT AND SO I'M -- I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT THERE AND SAY SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE DAMAGING TO THE PROSPECTS IF THAT INDEED IS THE CASE AND I THINK -- I KNOW THAT -- FROM THE TIME THE BUDGET WAS UNVEILED THAT DAY, THAT MS. DODSON AND HER CREW WERE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ISSUES. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: ON THE POWELL BILL, THIS IS A SECOND OR THIRD TIME WHERE OUR REQUEST HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED. DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR STRATEGY ON HOW WE APPROACH -- HOW WE APPROACH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS IN GETTING THAT FUNDING APPROVED? AND THAT WILL BE IN PLANNING FOR 2024. BUT WE DO NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT STRATEGY, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE DONE HAS NOT WORKED. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT? >> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. IT'S -- WE DID TRY THIS YEAR SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I DO KNOW THAT REPRESENTATIVE CUNNINGHAM MADE A REALLY GOOD EFFORT AT IT. AND THE RESPONSE WAS BASICALLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RESTORE IT. PERIOD. SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY. BUT IT WAS DONE BEFOREHAND. BUT IT'S THE WAY -- IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW. BUT, YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IN THE COMING MONTHS. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: YES, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR LOBBYIST TEAM AND YOURSELF AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO POTENTIALLY TO FILL THAT GAP THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, THIS IS IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT HELPS US WITH PAVEMENT AND JUST INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE SO. IF WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE STRATEGY AND HOW WE APPROACH OUR LEGISLATURE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT. AND I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON THE BUDGET REFERENDUM LANGUAGE, ESPECIALLY THE PART WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY TAX MIGHT BE LEVIED, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF -- ON OUR FUTURE BONDS. SO IF THERE IS ANY FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. >> YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU ON THE BOND REFERENDUM LANGUAGE, MADAM CHAIR, IS THAT BOND COUNCILS AROUND THE STATE WERE LOOKING AT THAT. AND SO I WOULD BE GLAD TO GET YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION, GET THE COMMITTEE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. >>DIMPLE AJMERA: YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THE CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AND TOWNS ACROSS THIS STATE ARE RELYING ON BONDS TO DO SOME CAPITAL PLANNING, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS, AND THESE ARE REALLY VERY IMPORTANT INITIATIVES THAT KEEPS OUR CITY MOVING FORWARD. SO I'M SURE THE TOWNS, MUNICIPALITIES ARE ALL CONSIDERING THIS. AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE AN IMPLICATION IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT ON THIS. I WILL LET MS. ANDERSON LEAD THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, SO MS. ANDERSON, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LEADING THE REST OF THIS DISCUSSION? >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR HIS QUESTION. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: I THANK YOU. I GUESS THIS IS A LESS OF A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT O TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMITTEE. AS MR. FENTON LAID OUT THE KIND OF PATHWAY TOWARDS THE SHORT SESSION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. AND KNOWING THAT IT, YES, IT IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST ONE NEW MEMBER OF COUNCIL, A NEW COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, BUT AT LEAST ONE NEW MEMBER AND YOU WANT TO PROVIDE TIME AND DEFERENCE FOR THE NEW COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THINGS. THERE COULD AND SHOULD, I THINK, BE AN OPPORTUNITY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IN THE PAST, THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION -- TO ALLOW COUNCIL THE TIME, EFFORT AND ENERGY, TO THINK ABOUT ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO APPROACH FROM BOTH A STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE ABILITY, STANDPOINT, KNOWING THAT WE'LL BE GOING INTO THE SHORT SESSION, THERE MIGHT -- THERE WILL BE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO GET NEW THINGS ON THE TABLE AT THE STATE, BUT IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A LONGER KIND OF STRATEGY AND PATHWAY IF THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE ISSUES THAT WE DO HOLD DEAR. AND THEN IT GIVES US A BETTER CHANCE TO LET STAFF DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO GET US THE INFORMATION AND DATA SO THAT WE CAN FORM THAT AGENDA, WHICH WILL MOVE QUICKLY AS I SAID ONCE THE NEW COUNCIL IS SEATED. IT'S BEEN HELPFUL TO KIND OF PUT THAT ON THE AGENDAS OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, TO AGAIN, TO GIVE COUNCIL A CHANCE TO PUT THINGS ON THE TABLE, AND TO KIND OF DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO PUT IT DOWN AND REALLY NOW IS KIND OF THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LARGER CALENDAR, AND AGAIN, MR. FENTON, IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT, BECAUSE WE WORKED TOGETHER -- >> YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU WERE ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE FORMER COMMITTEE, I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE SHORT SESSION LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WAS ADOPTED AND BOTH OF THOSE WERE MORE, YOU KNOW -- THEY WERE LONG SESSION ITEMS BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THOSE OUT TO THE COUNCIL BEFOREHAND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING. AND THAT ONE OF THOSE WAS ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE THRESHOLD FOR SENIOR CITIZENS TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF PROGRAM. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: AGAIN, THE SPIRIT OF COUNCIL DOES WHAT I'VE KNOWN, COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO EXPLORE THIS. OR DO IT WELL. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF ON US. STAFF IS GOING TO DO THEIR THING, THEY HAVE THEIR CALENDAR, BUT WE KIND OF -- THEY'RE GOT TO CREATE IT FOR US, WE HAVE TO CREATE IT ON OUR OWN TIME LINE CALENDAR. >> NORMALLY, THERE'S A START OF A TWO-YEAR COUNCIL TERM. THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF A STRATEGY SESSION. >> UH-HUH. >> AN ALL-DAY SESSION OR MAYBE A TWO-DAY SESSION. AT SOME POINT. TYPICALLY, IN JANUARY. SO THERE MAY BE THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT'S GIVEN THERE AS WELL. >> YEAH. THAT'S A -- THAT'S A FAIR POINT. MAYOR PRO TEM. WITH THE SWEARING IN, OCCURRING THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER, WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE OUR PLAN TOGETHER TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND THE BREAKS IN BETWEEN. >> LET ME ADD INTO THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT OF COURSE, NEVER REALLY KNOW WHEN THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO BE CHOSEN OR MADE PUBLIC, BUT I WOULD ALWAYS BE GLAD TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ANY NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >>DANTE ANDERSON: YEAH. >> THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL. >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. FENTON FOR THAT. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND YOU MENTIONED THAT THE VOTING FOR THE REDISRICTING AND OF THE MAPS CAN HAPPEN AS EARLY AS OCTOBER 9th. >> UH-HUH. >>DANTE ANDERSON: SO WHAT WOULD THAT VOTE ENTAIL GIVEN THAT -- BE CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WHAT THAT VOTE WOULD ENTAIL AND COVER. >> KI GIVE YOU REALLY -- I CAN GIVE YOU A REALLY BROAD PERSPECTIVE HERE, IS THAT I THINK THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT ELECTION DISTRICT MAPS IN NORTH CAROLINA. THIS IS -- THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF OTHER STATES. IS THAT THE MAPS ARE DETERMINED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALONE. THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT GET A CHANCE TO SIGN A BILL. OR TO VETO A BILL. OR TO JUST ALLOW IT TO BECOME LAW WITHOUT HIS SIGNATURE, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RULE WHATSOEVER IN THIS PROCESS. IT'S THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT IS DRAWING THEM UP. AND AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS, AS YOU WOULD FIND USUALLY FOR A LOCAL BILL. WHERE THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T SIGN THOSE EITHER. THAT THE LEGISLATION HAS -- IT'S IN A BILL FORM, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. IN IDENTICAL FORM BEFORE IT'S RATIFIED AND BECOMES LAW. >>DANTE ANDERSON: UH-HUH. >> AND TYPICALLY, WHAT YOU WILL SEE, THE PUBLIC WILL SEE, WHICH I'LL SEE, YOU ALL WILL SEE AS WELL, IS THEY'LL COME OUT WITH A BILL THAT IS LITERALLY JUST A BUNCH OF NUMBERS WITH PRECINCTS, WHAT YOU NEED TO SEE IS THE MAP BEHIND IT. AND THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE REPORTS PROVIDED BY THE LEGISLATIVE STAFF, THAT GETS DOWN IN THE DETAILS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN EACH DISTRICT? AND FOR THIS DISTRICT, FOR SUCH A DISTRICT, LIKE A HOUSE DISTRICT, THAT WILL CROSS JURISDICTIONAL LINES, LIKE IT MAY INCLUDE CHARLOTTE, IT MAY INCLUDE ONE OF THE TOWNS LIKE MATTHEWS, MINT HILL, PINEVILLE, AND THE THREE NORTHERN TOWNS AS WELL. THEY'LL SHOW YOU THE DETAILS AS TO HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE IN EACH OF THOSE TOWNS, IN THAT DISTRICT. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE A DISTRICT IS WEIGHTED, SO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION LIKE THAT THEY PREPARE. A LOT OF PAGES TO GO THROUGH AS WELL. >>DANTE ANDERSON: IT'S PROBABLY ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS -- THE LATEST MAPS THAT THIS PAST ELECTION WAS EXECUTED ON WAS PASS BY THE SUPREME COURT AND THOSE COURT DECISIONS ONLY ARE EFFECTIVE FOR ONE ELECTION CYCLE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. YES. >>DANTE ANDERSON: SO THIS PROCESS HAS TO HAPPEN. >> IT HAS TO HAPPEN, YES. >>DANTE ANDERSON: BY LAW. >> ESPECIALLY FOR THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THE HOUSE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN UP BY THE SPECIAL MASTERS. >>DANTE ANDERSON: UH-HUH. >> AND I GUESS I'LL LOOK BEHIND ME TO JOHN, THE SENATE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAPS WERE -- THE INITIAL MAPS DROWN UP BY THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, WERE SENT TO THE COURTS, AND THEY DIDN'T APPROVE THE FIRST SET, AND SO THEY TRIED AGAIN. AND THEN THEY SAID, OKAY, TO THE SECOND ONE. THE SECOND MAPS. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE ORDER AS WELL. >> YEAH. >> THEY HAVE TO PREDRAW THOSE, TOO. >>DANTE ANDERSON: GOT IT. THANK YOU. MY SECOND QUESTION, YOU DID NOT PRESENT ON THIS TODAY, BUT WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR ABC BOARD AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. >> UH-HUH. >>DANTE ANDERSON: CAN YOU OR JOHN PROVIEWED -- PROVIDE ANY UPDATES ON THE PASSING OF THE LIQUEUR LAWS TO SERVE ALCOHOL EARLIER ON SUNDAY? AND THE PASSING OF THE POTENTIAL PASSING OF ALLOWING TO GO -- CONTAINERS OF ALCOHOL, THAT WAS DONE OVER COVID, DURING THE COVID YEARS? THE PASSING OF THAT, IS THERE A LIGHT -- WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THOSE TWO PASSING BY THE END OF THE YEAR? ANY UPDATES AT ALL? >> THAT'S ONE I HAVEN'T BEEN WATCHING, BUT JOHN, IS THERE ANYTHING THERE YOU CAN ADD IN? >> I KNOW THERE WERE A NUMBER OF -- >> COME TO THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MICROPHONE IS ON. >> PUSH THAT BUTTON, JOSH. WITH T-- GREEN. >> THERE WERE A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT WERE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, INCLUDING AN OMNIBUS BILL AS WELL IN WHICH THE GOVERNOR HAS VETOED AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OVERRIDES THAT CAME BACK BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. AND THIS PARTICULAR BILL, I KNOW THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS PUT A LOT OF FOCUS ON ABC AND THE NUMBER OF REFORMS AND CHANGES ALL PUSHED BY INDUSTRY PARTNERS. AND THEIR PARTNERSHIPS IN THE LEGISLATURE. WHAT I CAN DO IS WORK ON GETTING YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT AS SOON AS AFTER THE COMMITTEE MEMBER IS OVER, I WAS LOOKING AT MY NOTES JUST NOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE I WAS PROVIDING THE MOST, A -- ACCURATE INFORMATION TO YOU. >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT, I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE THEM AN UPDATE ON WHERE THOSE TWO ISSUES ARE WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ON THE STATE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE? IF NOT, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, CONTINUING WITH MR. FENTON, AND MS. LAM, FOR THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMITTEE. TODAY, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE BUT WE ALSO HAVE QUITE A SECTION IN HERE ON GRANT MAKING. WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, ASSISTING ENACTMENT OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW AND ALSO, THE SUBSEQUENT LEGISLATION LIKE THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT, AND QUITE A FEW OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME APPROPRIATION BILLS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A -- KIND OF A DEEP DIVE INTO HOW WE'RE DOING THIS IN LAM WILL BE MAKING THIS A PART OF THE PRESENCE FAGS, FIRST, I'LL GO OVER THE CONGRESSIONAL UPDATE AND I'LL REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE, IS THAT I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. IT'S NEVER -- IT'S NEVER A GOOD THING OR A PRETTY THING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO BUT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION ON SATURDAY, TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPERATING UNTIL NOVEMBER 17th, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE CONGRESS HAS TO WORK ON THE BUDGET. AND WE DO KNOW THAT BOTH CHAMBERS ARE PUTTING FORWARD A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE TO GET THEIR APPROPRIATION BILLS APPROVED. IN THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW THAT THE HOUSE HAS HAD -- SINCE WE LAST MET, THAT THE HOUSE HAS PASSED I THINK LAST WEEK THEY PASSED ABOUT FIVE OF THEIR COMMITTEE APPROVED APPROPRIATION BILLS, AND THEN THEY'RE TAKING UP SEVERAL OTHERS THIS WEEK. AND I KNOW THAT THE SENATE IS DOING THE SAME THING. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME -- WE SEE SOME ENERGY AROUND THAT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME ACTION ON THAT IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS. ALSO, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, WHICH WAS -- WHICH WAS AFFECTED BY THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION PASSED ON SATURDAY, WAS THE REAUTHORIZATION OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR AIRPORTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTION, THEY EXTENDED THAT LAW BY THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR. THAT GIVES THEM SOME BREATHING TIME TO GET A PERMANENT LAW IN THERE. AND THEN THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT ARE CHANGED IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY ARENA EVERY YEAR. WHETHER IT'S THE MILITARY, THE -- OR WHETHER IT'S THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES OR OTHER THINGS. THEY HAVE TO REDO THAT EVERY YEAR. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS IN THERE, THEY'RE WORKING ON, DISASTER RELIEF, THEY DID GET SOME MORE MONEY IN THERE FOR FEMA, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING. BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DISASTERS WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR. THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT FREIGHT RAIL SAFETY, I RESULT, THE BIG ACCIDENT IN OHIO REALLY SENT SHOCKS THROUGH THE SYSTEM. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER FREIGHT RAIL DERAILMENTS AS WELL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED, AND IT IS TO BE REGULATED, HOW WILL IT BE REGULATED. THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY'VE GOT OTHER THINGS ON THERE AS WELL. AND ENDING WITH UKRAINE ASSISTANCE, WHICH WAS AN ISSUE IN THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION, IT WAS NOT PART OF THE RESOLUTION, AND BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE LEADERSHIP IN BOTH CHAMBERS ARE WORKING ON THAT. AND THEN ALSO, NOMINATIONS IN THE SENATE, THE SENATE IS THE BODY THAT GETS TO APPROVE PRESI PRESIDENTIAL -- NOMINATIONS, SO THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FEDERAL BUDGET, OF COURSE, ONE IS THE EARMARKS OR WHAT THEY CALL COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING REQUESTS, THE FORMAL NAME FOR EARMARKS, AND I THINK I PRESENTED THIS SLIDE TO YOU MONTHS AGO, I DID ADD SOMETHING ON IT, IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION FROM YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT THE FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTST. ANOTHER COUPLE OF PROGRAMS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE RELATED TO OUR -- YOUR 2023 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THE ONE IS THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM, THIS WAS FORMED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY THE BIPARTISAN LOU LAW AND BEFORE THAT IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, TEMPORARY FUNDING TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO BROADBAND WHO COULD NOT AFFORD IT. AND THERE WAS ABOUT $14 BILLION APPROPRIATED FOR THIS OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS IN, PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUT OF MONEY. IT'S BEEN THAT POPULAR AND IN FACT, IN OUR COUNTY, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THIS INTO THE PRESENTATION, BUT SOMETHING LIKE 75,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET VIA THIS PROGRAM. AND NORTH CAROLINA BY THE WAY, HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PARTICIPATION RATES IN THE NATION, LIKE THE THIRD-HIGHEST OF LIKE 46% OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT WOULD QUALIFY ARE ENROLLED IT. THIS IS A THING, THAT AGAIN, PROJECTED TO RUN OUT IN EARLY 2040 SO. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS WELL, IT DOESN'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE, IS LOW INCOME HOUSING OR HOUSEHOLD WATER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THIS WAS SET UP DURING THE PANDEMIC. TO HELP PEOPLE PAY THEIR WATER BILLS. AND THAT FUNDING, IT EXPIRED ON SATURDAY. OR ACTUALLY THE PROGRAM EXPIRED. SOME STATES MAY CONTINUE OPERATING THAT UNTIL THE FUNDING IS EXHAUSTED BUT THE NEED STILL EXISTS FOR THE PROGRAM. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ASSOCIATION FOR METROPOLITAN WATER AGENCIES TO HELP EDUCATE OUR DELEGATION ABOUT THIS. AND BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO SAY, IS THAT THERE'S A -- THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE LOOK FOR BECAUSE WE LEARN NEW THINGS, ALL THE TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND SO WE'LL BE NIMBLE AND TRY TO -- TRY TO REACT APPROPRIATELY TO THE THINGS THAT ARISE SO. SO WITH THAT, MEMBERS, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO CHARLOTTE LAND TO SPEAK ABOUT OUR GRAND MAKING EFFORTS AND BEFORE SHE BEGINS ON THAT, WE KNEW THAT TWO YEARS AGO, IN AUGUST, THERE WERE A LOT OF NEW GRANT PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A REALLY ORGANIZED EFFORT TO ADDRESS THAT, SHE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND MORE, SO CHARLOTTE? >> HELLO, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THE FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. AND THEY HAVE REALLY EXPANDED SINCE 2021. WE HAVE THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, THE INADMINISTRATION REDUCTION ACT, THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT, AND THEN CONSOLIDATED APPROPRIATIONS ACT IN BOTH 2022 AND 2023. AND THAT COMES TO OVER $1.6 TRILLION IN FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. AND THESE ARE ACROSS STATE, REGION, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND IN SOME CASES, FOR-PROFITS AND NOT FOR PROFIT ENTITIES. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO 1.6 TRILLION IS A LOT TO SORT THROUGH. AND WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT APPLYING FOR, YOU KNOW, $1.6 TRILLION WORTH OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. WITHIN THESE BILLS, THERE ARE GRANTS THAT AREN'T RELEVANT TO CHARLOTTE LIKE ONES FOR ELECTRIC FERRIES, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER HAVE A FERRY PROGRAM IN CHARLOTTE. ALSO DIRECT FEDERAL SPENDING, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FORESTRY SERVICE HAS A BUNCH OF THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. WE'VE GOT FORMULA FUNDING, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO FILL OUT ALL OF THE PAPERWORK, FOR EXAMPLE THE AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. THERE IS A TON OF RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THE CARBON STORAGE VALIDATION AND TESTING PROGRAM, WHICH HAS 2.5 BILLION ALLOCATED TO IT. AS WELL AS GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFIC FUNDING. SO THIS CAN EITHER BE AN ACTUAL OUTLINE ON A MAP, OR IT CAN BE MAYBE A PROBLEM THAT WE DON'T DEAL WITH, LIKE RECURRENT FOREST FIRES, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THE APPALACHIAN REGION HAS 2$2.3 BILLION FOR THAT IN THE BIPARTISAN LAW. IT ENDS UP BEING A REALLY MANAGEABLE, BUT BENEFICIAL AMOUNT OF COMPETITIVE GRANTS THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON APPLYING FOR. AND THESE ARE THE FUNDING CATEGORIES THAT POP OUT AS RELEVANT TO THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE. SO HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS? THE SAME MANAGEMENT TASKED THE EXECUTIVE TEAM WITH LEADING THE FEDERAL GRANT REQUESTS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE THROUGH THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THESE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES COME OUT, WE CHAT AND DECIDE IF WE NEED TO BRING PARTNERS IN, EITHER LOCALLY, REGIONALLY OR AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK AT THE VERY BEGINNING, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE DEPARTMENTS WORKING ON APPLICATIONS FOR THE SAME FUNDING SOURCE. AND THEN THEY GET DONE AND WE SAY, OH, NO, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES ARE PRIORITY, WHEN WE'VE NOT USED OUR STAFF TIME AS WELL AS WE COULD HAVE. SO THAT IS WHY WE START TALKING ABOUT IT AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN PRIOR TO SUBMISSION, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM DEPARTMENTS AND WORKING TEAMS, ARE ABLE TO MEET WITH OUR FEDERAL LOBBYING TEAM, TO TALK ABOUT THE GRANT IDEAS. AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT ON HOW FUNDING DECISIONS ARE MADE, AND WHICH ONES THEY THINK ARE THE MOST COMPELLING. AFTER SUBMISSION, THE FEDERAL LOBBYING TEAM HELPS US SECURE CONGRESSIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM, HOW IMPACTFUL THESE LETTERS ARE FOR SOME O, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LETTER, IT'S UNLIKELY YOU'LL GET FUNDING AND SOME ARE LESS POLITICAL BUT WE ALWAYS WORK WITH OUR LOBBYISTS TO GET THOSE LETTERS SUBMITTED. ONCE WE'VE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATIONS, THE AWARDING AGENCIES CAN REACH OUT DURING THE GRANT REVIEW PROCESS, AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. NORMALLY, IT'S A GOOD SIGN IF THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING WHAT WE APPLYING WITH. BUT IF NOT, AWARDED AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE SCORING RESULTS WITH THE AWARDING AGENCY. AND THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, MOST OF THOSE GRANTS ARE FUNDED FOR FIVE YEARS OR THEY HAVE INCREASED FUNDING FOR FIVE YEARS SO WE'RE ABLE TO HEAR IT STRAIGHT FROM THOSE WHO MADE THE SCORING, WHY PROJECT WASN'T AWARDED AND THAT CAN HELP US TAYLOR OUR ASK FOR PROJECT SUBMISSION, WHEN IT COMES UP THE NEXT YEAR. SO HOW ARE THESE GRANTS BEING REVIEWED AND SELECTED FOR AWARDS? WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION REVIEWS GRANT APPLICATIONS, FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE TO AS APPROPRIATE AND TO THE EXTENT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW PRIORITIZE RACIAL EQUITY, CLIMATE CHANGE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE JUSTICE, INCLUDING THE JUSTICE FORWARD INITIATIVE, HOUSING SUPPLY, AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY. ADDITIONALLY, MANY PROGRAMS HAVE WAIVED THE NONFEDERAL MATCH OR SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR AWARDS IN RURAL AREAS, TRIBAL COMMUNITIES, AREAS OF PERSISTENT POVERTY, AND/OR HISTORICALLYLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN CHARLOTTE? WE DON'T QUALIFY FOR ANY RURAL AREAS. AND WE DON'T HAVE TRIBAL COMMUNITIES. BUT IF YOU GO TO OUR NEXT SLIDE. AREAS OF PERSISTENT POVERTY ARE DEFINED BY THE D.O.T. AS CENSUS TRACKS WITH THE POVERTY RATE OF OVER 20%. AND THIS IS ALSO UTILIZED BY OTHER AWARDING AGENCIES. FOR PRIORITY OR ELIGIBILITY. JUST DEPENDS ON THE PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND CHARLOTTE'S HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IS IN LINE WITH OUR JUSTICE 40 INITIATIVE, AND IT USES THE D.O.T.'S CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE SCREENING TOOL TO MAP A VARIETY OF BURDENS USING PERCENTILES TO SHOW HOW MUCH BURDEN EACH TRACK EXPERIENCES COMPARED TO OTHER TRACTS. AND THERE'S THRESHOLDS OR CUTOFFS, THAT ARE USED TO DETERMINE IF THE COMMUNITY IN A TRACT IS DISADVANTAGED. CERTAIN BURDENS USE PERCENTAGES, SOME USE A YES OR A NO, BUT THEN IT IS ALL ADDED TOGETHER AND THAT IS HOW WE GET THESE GEOGRAPHIES. WHICH CAN ALSO BE USED FOR ELIGIBILITY OR PRIORITY. THANK YOU. BUT GRANTS CAN ALSO CREATE THEIR OWN PRIORITY OR ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR, YOU KNOW, EACH OPPORTUNITY. THE PRO-HOUSING PRIORITY, YOU CAN SEE MAPS TO THE LEFT. IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT CHARLOTTE IS NOT CONSIDERED A PRIORITY. GEOGRAPHY. BUT WE CAN STILL APPLY, WE JUST WON'T GET THOSE EXTRA POINTS ON OUR APPLICATION. AND THEN WITH THE RECOMPETE ELIGIBILITY, YOU CAN SEE THAT A SMALL SECTION OF OUR GEOGRAPHY WAS ELEVATED BASED ON THE MAPPING TOOLS THAT THEY USED FOR ELIGIBILITY. SO ANY PROJECT WE SUBMIT WOULD WANT TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHY. SO TAKING ALL OF THAT INTEREST INTO ACCOUNT, WE HAVE RECEIVED $81.5 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANTS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR FORMULA FUNDING, LIKE THE $215 MILLION THAT WAS AWARDED TO THE AIRPORT FOR PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOURTH PARALLEL RUNWAY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. AND THAT WOULD TOTAL 5.3 MILLION. WE'VE GOT THE CHARGING AND FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PROGRAM, WHERE WE LOOKED AT ELECTRIFYING TWO CHARLOTTE WATER FACILITIES, TO ALLOW FOR COMMUNITY CHASHLG CHARGING DURING THE DAY AND FLEET CHARGES AFTER HOURS AND WOULD ALSO HELP WHEN WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR ELECTRIC FLEET THROUGH OUR SEAP GOALS AND THE PROTECT GRANT, THE CORRIDORS TEAM APPLIED FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION RESILIENCY PLANNING IN CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY AND THAT REALLY COMES OUT TO PLANNING GRANT FOR BIKING AND PEDESTRIAN ROUTES, WHEN THE GREENWAYS FLOOD OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNABLE TO BE USED KIND OF WHAT IS THE PLAN THERE MOVING FORWARD. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THESE ARE THE GRANTS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN AWARDED WHY YET. SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REAPPLY AND TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE GRANT-MAKING AGENCIES. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR. AND HAVEN'T YET BEEN AWARDED. BUT WHEN WE REAPPLY, THE PROJECT AND ASKS MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE EXIT MEETINGS. BUT MULTIPLE GRANT SUBMISSIONS HAS WORKED FOR US, ALREADY, AND THE AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM, WE WERE AWARDED ON OUR SECOND APPLICATION. AS WELL AS THE LOW AND NO EMISSION BUS PROGRAM AND THE RAISE GRANT, WE APPLIED FOR, A FEW TIMES BEFORE, RECEIVING ANOTHER AWARD. MAY I PLEASE HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A CORRIDOR CONNECTION WHEN WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY. THE FEDERAL MAPPING TOOLS REALLY NATURALLY ELEVATE OUR CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY, WHICH I THINK SHOWS THAT WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB IN USING DATA TO SELECT THEM. BUT WE'RE ALSO PART OF THE THRIVING COMMUNITIES PROGRAM, WHICH YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT AT ACTION REVIEW LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE. SO THAT'S A TWO-YEAR COHORT-BASED PROGRAM AND PARTNERSHIP WITH LIS, AND UNITED WAY, BUT PARTNERSHIP IN THE THRIVING COMMUNITIES NETWORK ACTUALLY ADDS EXTRA POINTS TO THE APPLICATION OR INCREASES OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING. SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME REALLY BIG GOALS OF 100 MILLION GRANTS IN PARTNERSHIPS OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE, IF CORRIDORS ISN'T A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FUNDING SOURCE, BUT WHEN IT IS, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PURSUING THAT. MAY I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE? AND WE'VE GOT MONICA HOLMES AND WALT BLACKMON HERE TODAY IF ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS GO TOWARDS THE QUESTIONS GO TOWARDS THE GRANTS FOR CORRIDORS. >> THANK YOU, MS. LAMB, THAT WAS A GREAT UPDATE. I DID SEE THE RECURRING THEME OF CORRIDORS. RIGHT? FOR THE GRANT-MAKING AND SAW THAT SIGNIFICANT MONEY THAT HAS BEEN INVESTED IN UNLOCKED THROUGH THIS GRANT-MAKING PROCESS. DIRECTLY FOR THE CORRIDORS. FROM THE CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY'S TEAM, BUT THEN ALSO, SOME OF THE WORK THAT C.D.O.T. IS DOING AS WELL. THAT IS TARGETED FOR CORRIDORS, SO VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. ONE QUESTION AROUND -- I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT. CAN YOU SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT ARE WE -- THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE, TRYING TO ADVANTAGE ANY OF THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN JOB CREATION OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THAT CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT. >> CHARLOTTE LAMB: PARDON ME. YES. WE WERE LOOKING AT THE RECOMPETE PROGRAM. THAT HAD THE SMALLEST ELIGIBILITY ON OUR EXAMPLE SLIDE, AS PART OF THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT. SO WE ARE KEEPING TABS ON NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THERE. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY THAT WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING APPLICATION OR HAVE HEARD BACK FROM YET, IT'S JUST NOT AS FAR ALONG. >> ALSO, THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT IS STRUCTURED SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF THESE BIG PROGRAMS LIKE THE INNOVATION HUBS FSHLG -- LOOKING FOR CONSORTIUMS OF FOLKS AND USUALLY LOOKING FOR UNIVERSITIES OR THE -- OR SOME NOT FOR PR-- PROFIT THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT, TO BE THE LEAD, WE CAN BE A PARTNER FOR THAT, FOR THE MOST PART, SOME CASES WE CAN EVEN LEAD, BUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE SET UP HERE PROBABLY LIKE A UNC-CHARLOTTE, ENGINEERING PROGRAM THERE THAT IS INTERESTED IN ONE OF THESE, THEY MIGHT BE THE LEAD AND THAT WE WOULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTNERS AROUND THE REGION THAT WE COULD PARTICIPATE IN SOME WAY. >>DANTE ANDERSON: IT COULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT UNC-CHARLOTTE IS DOING, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST UNIVERSITIES WITHIN OUR SYSTEM OF NORTH CAROLINA UNIVERSITIES. SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE TAPPING INTO THAT. AND HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT IN THAT SPACE. >> I CAN SHARE WITH YOU, TOO, THAT SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, ON DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE WITH THE FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. NOT NECESSARILY JUST TO GET THE GRANTS ON PUTTING IN NEW ONES, BUT RATHER SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT I'M AWARE OF AT THIS POINT. >> OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, MR. FENTON, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN -- IF YOU HAVE ANY PERSPECTIVE ON RECENTLY THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE HAS APPLIED TO BE DESIGNATED AS A TECH HUB. >> UH-HUH. >>DANTE ANDERSON: CAN -- DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE ON THAT? AND WHAT THAT CAN POTENTIALLY UNLOCK FOR US AS A CITY? >> YEAH. I'M NOT -- I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT. BUT ONE EFFORT IS BEING LED BY UNC-CHARLOTTE, THE CENTRALINA REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE CHARLOTTE REGIONAL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, AND THERE'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT IN THERE I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH -- THAT I HAVE TO GET YOU THE DETAILS ABOUT. THAT WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THE LETTER OF SUPPORT, BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER WOULD BE -- THERE'S DIFFERENT IDEAS OUT THERE. AND I'LL HAVE TO -- I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU SOME DETAILS ON THAT, OR ASK SOMEONE TO GET YOU THE DETAILS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. I'M A MEMBER OF THE CENTRALINA BOARD, AND I KNOW THAT OVERALL, REGIONALLY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE DESIGNATED AS A TECH HUB. AND THAT WILL PROVIDE OUR AREA WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY WITH DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT. SO MS. HOLMES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY UPDATE OR ADD ANY COLOR, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE WITHIN THE CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY UPDATES? AND IT'S FINE IF YOU DON'T. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >> I'LL SPEAK TO THE RECOMPETE, REALLY QUICKLY. THE ONLY UPDATE, WHICH WE HAVE ACTIVELY BEEN WORKING WITH ON OUR STAFF, THE CENTRALINA ON AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO GO NO-GO, AND WE DID TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO IT AND WE FEEL LIKE THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES FROM OUTSIDE OF THE GRANT THAT COULD BE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES, SO I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME COMBING THROUGH THAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE IT, BUT WITH THOROUGH THOUGHT BEHIND IT THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE A BETTER FIT. >>DANTE ANDERSON: EXCELLENT. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE DIFFERENT GRANTS, DO YOU KNOW IF ANYONE IS LOOKING OR IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IDENTIFYING GRANT FUNDING TO HELP LOOK AT THE EXPANDED DISPOSAL OF EV BATTERIES, WE ARE SEEING ACROSS THE WORLD THE INCREASE OF LANDFILLS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE WHERE WITH ALL TO BREAK DOWN EV BATTERIES AT THE LEVEL THAT WE WOONCE THOUGHT, PRODUCING ON TON OF LITHIUM, ENOUGH FOR ONE HN CAR BATTERIES, THAT REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION TONS OF WATER. WE'RE ALREADY SEEING CHALLENGES IN CHILI, ARGENTINA, BOLIVIA, OTHER PLACES REGARDING THEIR WATER SOURCES BEING TAPPED, I KNOW WE HAVE A MANDATE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GO ELECTRIC, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN ELECTRIC, BUT IS ANYONE LOOKING AT THROUGH ANY RESEARCH, THE ACTUAL DECOMPOSITION, SINCE I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 5% AND WHAT I JUST PULLED UP IS JUST FROM A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH FROM EARTH.ORG, AND GREEN CARS.COM, WHEN WE'RE SEEING WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY BREAK DOWN THE LITHIUM. AT THE L-- LEVELS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING A TECH HUB, THE POTENTIAL OF CHARLOTTE HAVING ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY GETS IN TO HELP WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING, BUT JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FOR SOMEONE TO THINK ABOUT, HEY, LANDFILLS ARE FILLING UP. WHO'S ACTUALLY WORKING TOWARDS THIS? >> THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF RESEARCH GRANTS, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF RECYCLING GRANTS, I WILL GIVE IT A GOOD LOOK AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE OVERLAP OF THE TWO, I WOULD GUESS THAT WHAT IT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW, IS RESEARCH FUNDING. THAT THEN THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE COULD BENEFIT FROM THEIR FINDINGS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANY OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PILOT OF SORTS. BUT I WILL DEFINITELY GIVE IT A LOOK AND GET BACK TO YOU. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: EVEN IF WE COULD TIE IT IN BETWEEN BOTH UNC-CHARLOTTE, ALSO, THE ATRIUM MEDICAL FACILITY THAT IS COMING, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE CONGO, SPECIFICALLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF LAWS TO WE HAVE, SO YOU HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, THAT ALSO WORK. BASICALLY, IN THE VERSION OF THE COAL MINES. I THINK THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK 20 STEPS FORWARD, TO START LOOKING AT WHAT THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS AS WELL AS OBSTACLES CAN BE AS WE'RE GOING FAST FORWARD, TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND THE IMPACT. IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY CREATE THE LANGUAGE TO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE WITH ATRIUM, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY THAT RESEARCH GRANT. ALSO, WHEN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 11, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CHARLOTTE'S AREAS OF PERSISTENT POVERTY, LAST MONDAY MEETING, WHERE COUNCIL APPROVED A NUMBER OF FUNDING REQUESTS FOR HOUSING, I ASKED FOR STAFF TO PUT UP OUR LONG-TERM DEED RESTRICTED MAP. LET'S LOOK AT THIS MAP OVERLAID HERE. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES AND THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE THAT I SHARED WITH COLLEAGUES LAST MONDAY, IS DISTRICTS WERE WITHDRAWN LAST YEAR. THERE WAS A SHIFT. WHETHER WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO IT AND ACKNOWLEDGING IT ON THE FRONT END, THIS MAP IS SHOWING THAT WE ARE RECONCENTRATING CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, BASED ON INCOMES. SO WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO IN ANOTHER TWO YEARS, SAY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WE SEE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. SO IT WILL BE HELPFUL IF WE TAKE THIS MAP AND OVERLAY IT OVER THE CHARLOTTE AREAS OF PERSISTENT POVERTY MAP AND JUXTAPOSE THAT WITH THE SHIFT IN THE DISTRICTS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CREATING OPPORTUNITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT CLUSTERING. WE -- I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE CLUSTERS OF HIGH WEALTH OR HIGH POVERTY, WE'VE SEEN THE IMPACT OF THAT, SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ADDRESS THAT AND CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING UT BACK IN THAT SAME POSITION IN ANOTHER 15-20 YEARS, WE NEED TO STEP BACK NOW AND LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES, IT IS GREAT OF WHICH WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, GREAT TO SAY IN A LOWER INCOME COMMUNITY, GOING TO PUT EV, LET'S BE REALISTIC, WHO THE HECK IS BUYING A 60,000EV VEHICLE? AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS BENEFICIAL WHEREAS ARE THERE OTHER FOCUS AREAS BASED ON THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT WE CAN BE CONSIDERING. BUT IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF HOW WE DISPOSE OF THESE BATTERIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FACILITIES AND WE'RE DISPOSING NATIONWIDE 5% OR LESS OF THE BATTERIES, WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF CHANGING THIS CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. MAYFIELD. UNLESS WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE A COUPLE OF MINUTES OVER OUR TIME. >> MOVE TO CLOSE. >> SECOND, MR. BRAXTON. >> UNANIMOUS. >>DANTE ANDERSON: WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATES, THANK YOU, EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU, COMMITTEE. [ MEETING CONCLUDED AT 1:33 ] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Test, test, test, test, test, test test,. >> For the community. >> >> >> >> >> >> TEST TEST. >> COUNCIL MEMBER, WATLINGTON ARE YOU STILL ON. >> YES, I'M HERE. >> DID YOU WANT TO INITIATE INTRODUCTIONS IN THE ROOM? >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: YEP, I DEFINITELY DO, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR SOME CUE THAT WE WERE LIVE, BUT. ALL RIGHT. GOODS AFTERNOON. IN IS VICTORIA WATLINGTON, YOUR HOUSING COMMUNITY AND SAFETY COMMITTEE CHAIR, I AM JOINED TODAY BY THREE OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE ROOM. AS WELL AS OUR CHAIR FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MALCOLM GRAHAM AND A HOST OF STAFF AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH A ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS, STARTING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: LAWANA MAYFIELD, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >>RENEE JOHNSON: RENEE JOHNSON, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >>MARJORIE MOLINA: MARJORIE MOLINA, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: MALCOLM GRAHAM. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANKS SO MUCH, AND WE'VE ALSO -- THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, ALSO A HOST OF STAFF, WE'LL GIVE THEIR QUICK INTRODUCTIONS, BEGINNING WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, SEAN HEATH. >> THANK YOU, MEMBER WATLINGTON, SEAN HEATH, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. >> JULIA MARTIN, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, JACLYN HULSEY, CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG POLICE DEPUTY CHIEF. >> RENEE ASKEW, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. >> REBECCA HEFNER, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. >> HAROLD THOMPSON, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. >>. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: IS THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM? >> YES, EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE CORRECT. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: ALL RIGHT, THANKS SO MUCH. GOT A FULL AGENDA TODAY SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO -- TO KICK US OFF. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WATLINGTON, TWO TOPICS TODAY, FIRST, WE HAVE A CARES TEAM UPDATE, WITH JULIA MARTIN FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND DEPUTY CHIEF HULSEY FROM CMPD, FOLLOWED BY AN UPDATE, WHICH WILL ALSO BE A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND CMPD ASSOCIATED WITH THE MAYOR'S -- FROM LATE AUGUST. JULIA, ALL YOURS. >> THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON, JULIA MARTIN, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, TAG TEAMING THIS PRESENTATION WITH DEPUTY CHIEF HULSEY, ALYSON WINSTON, THE PROGRAM MANAGER AND MAJOR MARTHA DOZIER WHO WORKS WITH US ON THE CARES TEAM. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S A BIT OF WHAT WE'LL BE COVERING TODAY. THE ORIGIN OF THE TIME, THE PROGRAM PARAMETERS, PRELIMINARY DATA REVIEW, AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD, WE HAVE UPCOMING AS IT RELATING TO THE CARES TEAM, AND I'M SORRY, WENDE, THE LOGO IS THAT THE TEAM HAS, THAT IS THE CARES TEAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO JUST LEVEL SETTING ABOUT WHERE THIS CAME FROM. THIS WAS FROM THE2020. AND SO THERE WERE SIX RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT, THE MAIN ONE REALLY THAT STARTED THIS WORK WAS RECOMMENDATION 4. WHICH WAS ABOUT EXPANDING THE COMMUNITY POLICING CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM. AND DEVELOPING A NONSWORN OFFICER RESPONDER MODEL FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESS CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE -- I'LL NOTE, CMPD DID DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CPCRT TEAMS, IN DECEMBER OF 2021, AND PAIRS AN OFFICER WITH A CLINICIAN IN THE FIELD TO DEAL WITH HIGHER CALLS FOR SERVICE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO FROM THAT ADOPTION IN OCTOBER OF 20, WE PARTNERED WITH THE CORPORATION, TO HELP US TO DEVELOP SOME INITIAL PARAMETERS FOR WHAT A CIVILIAN RESPONSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, THE REPORT ON THE RIGHT, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS ONLINE, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN GOING BACK, DOING A DEEPER DIVE OF WHAT RAND CAME UP WITH US, THE FUNDING, $1.5 MILLION IN TOTAL, THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOCATING 1.2 MILLION IN FY2022. AND THEN WE WERE ONE OF THREE CITIES IN THE STATE TO RECEIVE THE NORTH CAROLINA STAR GRANT, SO THE OTHER CITIES ARE GREENSBORO AND GREENVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. WE LAUNCHED THE CARES TEAM IN DECEMBER OF 2022. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRAM GOALS BELOW, SO, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE NEED FOR US, AND INCREASE THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN FIRST RESPONDERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THE PROGRAM PARAMETERS, HERE'S WHERE WE STARTED OUT, IN THE CENTRAL DIVISION IN DECEMBER OF 2022, WHAT WE CALLED THE SOFT LAUNCH. SO THAT WILL BE THE BLUE AREA ON THE MAP, SO THAT INCLUDES MOST OF UPTOWN, ACTUALLY ALL OF UPTOWN, AND A LITTLE BIT INTO THE SOUTH END AREA. WE WANTED TO DO OUR SOFT LAUNCH WITHOUT DIRECT DISPATCH FROM 911 TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE PROCESSES, MAKE SURE OFFICERS FELT COMFORTABLE. AND THEN IN MARCH OF 2023, WE ADDED DIRECT DISPATCH, AN INDIVIDUAL CAN CALL 911 AND THE CARES TEAM WILL BE DIRECTLY DISPATCHED WITHOUT THE ACCOMPANIMENT OF A PATROL OFFICER, WE ALSO ADDED THE METRO DIVISION IN JUNE OF 2023, SO THAT IS THE MUCH LARGER PURPLE AREA ON YOUR SCREEN. IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF ON THE BORDER CALLS IN THAT NORTH TRYON AND NORTH GRAND AREA WHERE 277 CUTS ACROSS, AND SO IN TALKING WITH CMPD, AND LOOKING AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, MADE SENSE TO EXPAND INTO THAT DIVISION. THE OPERATIONS YOU CAN SEE HERE, ARE LIMITED, SOME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 A.M. TO 3:00 P.M., THIS COINCIDES WITH HOW TEAMS HAVE LAUNCHED THESE TYPES OF MODELS, IT'S A LIMIT TIME FRAME, AND LIMITED HOURS DURING THE WEEK, WE CHOSE THIS TIME FRAME LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, THE FREQUENCY, THE PEAK, THIS ALSO OVERLAPS WITH THE CPCRT TEAM, SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE HAVE THAT TEAM AVAILABLE. SO DURING THOSE OPERATIONS AND THIS GEOGRAPHY, WE HAVE THE DIRECT PATROL RESPONSE, WE HAVE THE CPCRT TEAM AND THIS TEAM OF FULLY COLLISIONS TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS. THE INITIAL CALL FOR CALL TIPS, A MIX OF WHAT RAND HAD PROVIDED US WITH INPUT FROM CMPD, AND INPUT FROM DISPATCH WHERE WE SHOULD FOCUSING OUR EFFORT INITIALLY, THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED OUT. AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT NA LOOKED LIKE A LITTLE BIT. SO OUR SOFT LAUNCH AGAIN, DECEMBER OF 2022, TO MARCH 2023, YOU CAN SEE THE CALL TYPES ON THE RIGHT. DON'T NECESSARILY MATCH UP WITH THE THREE BULLETS ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED THROUGH THIS INITIAL PHASE WAS WE NEEDED TO MODIFY THE DISPATCH PROCESS. SO RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF CALL TYPES AND LOOKING ONLY AT THAT AS THE KEY INDICATOR FOR SENDING THE CARES TEAM, THE PERSON PROVIDED THE CALL SAYING, IS THE PERSON INJURED? ARE THEY CAUSING A DISTURBANCE? DO THEY LOOK LIKE A HARM TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS? DO YOU SEE A WEAPONEN? IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT'S AN APPROAPRIATE CALL FOR THE CARES TEAM. AND THE BECAUSE PART OF THAT IS A RESPONSE, BUT ALSO, A BIT OF A SOCIAL SERVICES COMPONENT, WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE OUR CONNECTION WITH THE COUNTY, AND SO WE GAINED ACCESS TO THEIR HOMELESS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO HELP BETTER SERVE THE CLIENTS THAT THE CARES TEAM INTERACTED WITH AND CONNECT TO A BROADER SUITE OF SERVICES. WE ALSO ADDED THE OPTION TO TRANSPORT INDIVIDUALS IN JUNE. MEANING WE WOULDN'T NEED MEDIC OR A PATROL OFFICER TO BRING THEM SOMEWHERE, OUR TEAM CAN HANDLE THAT THEMSELVES. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF HULSEY FOR THE NEXT TWO. >> THANK YOU, JULIA. AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, JACLYN HULSEY, CMPD ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES GROUP. THANK YOU, JULIA, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, CREDIT TO HER FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I AM JUST HERE TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE CRUNCHED FOR THIS PRESENTATION. SO AGAIN, JULIA HAS TALKED ABOUT WHAT DIRECT DISPATCH S YOU CAN SEE UP THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECT DISPATCH NUMBER OF CALLS AT 135. THOSE ARE THE CALLS THAT THE CARES TEAM HANDLES DIRECTLY FROM THE ON SET OF THE 911 CALL GOING STRAIGHT TO A CARES TEAM FOR THEIR RESPONSE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT AN OFFICER MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CALLED TO THAT SUBS SUBSEQUENTLY. I WOULD THINK THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CALLS THEY HANDLED ALONE, BUT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH ALYSON, SHE WAS EXPLAINING TO ME THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN CARES DOES HAVE TO THEN SUPPLEMENT THE CALL BY REQUESTING OFFICERS, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT SHE GAVE ME WAS SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTED THE SUBJECT BANNED. THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO CALL AN OFFICER BUZZ THEY DO NOT HAVE -- BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE BAN AUTHORITY FOR THAT. FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE ARE THE DIRECTLY MANAGED CALLS BY CARES. SECONDARY RESPONSE IS AN OFFICER WENT TO A CALL FOR SERVICE AND DETERMINED THERE WAS A NEED FOR CARES AND REQUESTED CARES AND CARES CAME OUT AND SUPPLEMENTED THE CALLS AND THE EFFORTS OF THE PATROL OFFICER. THE PROACTIVE RESPONSE IS THE EFFORTS OF THE TEAM GOING OUT. AND EITHER LOOKING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO CONDUCT FOLLOWUPS WITH, SO EXISTING CLIENTS, OR IDENTIFYING CLIENTS, SIMPLY BY BEING OUT AND ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU GO FURTHER DOWN INTO THAT DATA AND WE SEE THAT WE'VE GOT THE TYPES OF CALLS BROKEN DOWN, BASED ON THE MAJORITY OF THE CALL TYPES THAT THEY HANDLE. OUR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS, AND CHECK FOR WELFARES, THE LOITERINGS, AND DISTURBANCES, AND I'LL JUST TOUCH AGAIN ON WHAT JULIA SAID WITH THE DISTURBANCES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT THAT DISPATCH TEAM, OUR 911 CALL TAKERS ASKS THE APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS TO ENSURE OUR APPROPRIATE RESPONSE. AND AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NO AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR, WEAPONS INDICATED, AND THEN WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO FUNNEL THOSE CALLS TOWARDS CARES. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL DOWN THERE AT 268. THE REASON WE HAVE IN THE BLOCK UP THERE, 158 UNIQUE CONSUMERS. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE SEPARATED THE DATA A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT'S 158 INDIVIDUALS THAT THE CARES TEAM HAS ACTUALLY SERVED. SO YOU'VE GOT WITH THE PROACTIVE AND THE SECONDARY, THE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THE FOLLOWUPS WITH AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS THAT GENERATE REPEAT CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND MULTIPLE ENGAGEMENTS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE FURTHER SLIDES. THE DATA, YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE OF HOW MANY CALLS PER WEEK THEY'RE HANDLING. AND TRANSLATE THAT INTO A MONTH. SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT DATA PAGE, WE WILL FLIP TO 8. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS JUST A DEEPER DIVE INTO LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE CALLS RELATED TO OUR UNSHELTERED SHID INDIVIDUALS AND WE BROKE IT OUT WITH THE CENTRAL DIVISION AND THE METRO DIVISION, ONE WAS SIX MONTHS AND ONE WAS THREE AND YOU CAN SEE OF THE TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WAS HANDLED, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 TO 3:00, SO WE TRIED TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES BY PULLING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND DURING THOSE TIME FRAMES OF 97 TOTAL CALLS FROM CENTRAL. THE NUMBER THAT WERE HANDLED BY PATROL AND CARES AND A COMBINATION OF CARES AND PATROL COMBINED AND THE SAME THING. THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE CALL VOLUME THAT THEY'RE TAKING ON FOR US. AND THEN, WE JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN NOT HAVING ANY ARRESTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE AND NO INJURIES TO ANYBODY INVOLVED, THAT'S A HUGE WIN. AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, RELATED TO THAT DATA, I WILL -- SURE. >> ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. >> UH-HUH. >> YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE NOT TRACKING -- WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT COME TO CARES BUT THEN IN TERMS OF CMPD HAS DISPATCHED AN OFFICER TO. >> I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? >> THE TIMES WHERE WE DISPATCH A CARES INDIVIDUAL TO AN ISSUE. ARE WE TRACKING WHEN CMPD HAS TO FOLLOW UP IMMEDIATELY? I BELIEVE YOU SAID WE'RE NOT TRACKING THAT, RIGHT. >> NO, IF I DID I MISSPOKE. >> WHEN WE HAD TO BREAK DOWN THIS DATA, THE CADS SERVICE IS A CALL FOR SERVICE AND CARES TEAM CAN CREATE THEIR OWN CALLS FOR SERVICE, IF THEY GO OUT AND ENGAGE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY LOCATE, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ENTERING A CALL FOR SERVICE INTO CAD AS WELL. WHEN WE HAD TO SEPARATE THIS DATA, WE HAD TO DO THAT MANUALLY BASED ON THE RECORDKEEPING ALYSON IS KEEPING, A COMBINED OR INDIVIDUAL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YEAH. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THAT INFORMATION OF -- BECAUSE THIS TEAM IS REALLY THE IMPETUS THE S TO REALLY RELIEVE THE PRESSURE FROM CMPD. >> RIGHT. >> IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE DATA OF WHEN WE HAVE TO DISPATCH CARES PERSON AND THEN CMPD HAS TO COME OUT AS WELL. >> RIGHT. AND SO LIKE IF IT WAS A PRELIMINARY CARES CALL, A CARES RESPONDED INITIALLY AND THEN 30 MINUTES INTO THE CALL, THEY HAD TO REQUEST AN OFFICER, WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT THE CAD NOTICE AND SEE NOW AN OFFICER RESPONDED TO THAT CALL AS WELL. >> RIGHT. >> MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE CODING IN THE SYSTEM THAT WOULD JUST MANUALLY OR EXCUSE ME, ELECTRONICALLY -- >> A FLAG. >> FOR US. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN SECONDLY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS BENEFITTED VERY WELL FOR THE CENTRAL DIVISION, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF CARES CALLS RELATIVE TO METRO. ARE WE LOOKING AT EXTENDING ANY OF THE HOURS FOR CARES TO ACTIVATE WITHIN THE CENTRAL DIVISION? >> SO I THINK THAT WILL BE PART OF THE GREATER DISCUSSION AS WE FINISH OUT THE FULL ONE-YEAR EVALUATION. YOU KNOW, OF THIS PROGRAM. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF JULIA AND HER PRESENTATION HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH. >> COMPLETING THE PILOT ENTIRELY. >> AND WE HAVE LAUNCHED FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I'LL CALL IT A BUTTON. >> UH-HUH. >> WHERE THE DISPATCHERS CAN -- IF A CALL COMES IN AFTER HOURS AND DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHY ON A DIFFERENT DAY, THEY CAN HIT THE BUTTON, AND SAY, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR CARES BUT THEY'RE NOT OPERATIONAL RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE JUST STARTED THAT IN SEPTEMBER. AND SO WE WANT TO GET A BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THAT IS LOOKING LIKE IN ORDER TO HELP GUIDE US INTO WHERE WE WOULD GO NEXT. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> AND RIGHT NOW, OUR ENTIRE TEAM IS FOUR INDIVIDUALS, TWO OF WHICH ARE THE CLINICIANS PAIRED TOGETHER, SO IT'S A ONE-VEHICLE, TWO-MAN TEAM OUT HERE IN THE FIELD, SO THEY'RE HITTING THEIR 40 HOUR A WEEK MARK, IF YOU WILL, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TEAM TO ROLL OUT TO BROADEN THOSE HOURS AT THIS TIME. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SUPERVISOR WHO'S ALSO PART OF -- CONTRACTED THROUGH CRISIS, AND THEN WE HAVE ALYSON WHO'S THE PROGRAM MANAGER. >> SO FOR ME, THERE WERE -- >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- COUNCIL MEMBER DANTE ANDERSON, WHO WAS JUST SPEAKING, THEN ALSO, ( INAUDIBLE ) ALSO JOIN THE CONVERSATION, GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: THANK YOU, FOR ME, THERE WAS ALWAYS THREE OBJECTIVES OF THIS. ONE WAS TO REDUCE THE WORKLOAD AND IMPACT ON SWORN OFFICERS. TWO WAS TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE END OUTCOMES NECESSARY FOR THESE CALLS, AND THREE, WERE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF NONSWORN OFFICERS. I THINK YOU'VE HIT IN THE DATA ON NUMBER ONE AND WE SEE THAT. MY QUESTIONS ARE ON TWO AND THREE. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE, I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND, YOU KNOW, 67 OR 8%, 67%, HIT OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS CALLED IN, HIT REALLY THE BIG THREE ITEMS THAT I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND CONCERN ABOUT. HOMELESS, WELFARE CHECKS, AND BASICALLY PANHANDLING. SO A QUESTION ONE IS: DID WE JUST REDUCE THE IMPACT ON SWORN OFFICERS? HAVING TO SHOW UP? OR BECAUSE SOMEBODY MADE A CALL ABOUT THIS. OR DID WE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, IE, SOMEONE IS NO LONGER PAN HAN HANDLED, SOMEONE IS NO LONGER IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS OPERATION, AND IF THIS WERE, THE THIRD QUESTION, AND RIDE ALONGS, I'VE GONE ALONG ON WELFARE CHECKS, AND THEY -- I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE CAN BE DANGEROUS. BUT I'VE SEEN FIRST-HAND THAT, SO ARE WE SENDING THESE NONSWORN FOLKS INTO SITUATIONS AND HOW IS THEIR SAFETY? >> SO ALYSON, FEEL FREE TO SPEAK TO THIS, IF YOU LIKE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY FEEDBACK PERSONALLY WHERE OUR CARES TEAM HAS FELT LIKE THEY'VE BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY COULDN'T HANDLE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? >> AGAIN, ALYSON WINSTON, I'M THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR THE CARES TEAM. A GOOD NAME. SO AFTER EVERY CALL, THAT THE TEAM GOES ON, THEY COME BACK AND THEY FILL OUT A FORM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES OF THE CALL? WHO WAS THE CONSUMER, QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK THEM AFTER EVERY CALL IS DID YOU FEEL SAFE ON THIS CALL AND IF NO, WHY NOT, AND THEN WE IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS IT. AND I'M 99% OF THE CALLS, THEY REPORTED THAT THEY FELT SAFE. AGAIN, WE ARE ABLE TO CALL FOR BACKUP, IF WE'RE EVER IN A SITUATION WHERE OUR GUT SAYS THIS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, WE CALL FOR BACKUP. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: WELL, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR, AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN OFF LINE IN GETTING MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT DATA AND THE SITUATIONS THEY WERE IN FRONT OF. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY CHALLENGING WHEN I SPOKE TO THE EXPERTS IN ATRIUM HEALTH AND OTHERS, WERE THAT THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED, NOR PREPARED TO GO INTO SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT A DEESCALATOR, RIGHT, THEY'RE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, SO I'LL BE INTERESTED MORE IN THAT. BUT IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT 99% OF 268 CALLS WENT WITHOUT THEM FEELING THREATENED. SO BACK TO THE OTHER MASSIVE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, THE CALLS CAME -- I'VE GOT TO ASSUME IN EVERY CASE, NOT FROM THE PERSON THAT WAS BEING DISPATCHED TO. BUT SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAD AN ISSUE. SO IS THIS KIND OF STILL A BIT OF A BAND-AID? OVER TOP OF THEM. A BAND-AID OVER TOP -- WAS THE HOMELESS PERSON STILL IN THE SPOT? WAS THE PANHANDLER STILL AT THE INTERSECTION. >> IT'S TOO SOON TO SAY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HITTING ON IS THE ASPECT OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM, THE OUTCOMES AT THE END THAT TRULY MAT NER THIS AND I THINK THAT AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH ALYSON AND HER TEAM, IS THE NEED FOR FURTHER RESOURCES, EVEN FOR HER TEAM TO REFER INDIVIDUALS TO. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SO MANY BARRIERS AND OBSTACLES IN FRONT OF THEM THAT THEY NEED HOLISTIC CARE, THEY NEED WRAP AROUND SERVICES, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO REALLY SEE ANY LONG-TERM SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS OF THIS PROGRAM, IS GOING TO ALSO BE IMPERATIVE THAT THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED WITHIN THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE OTHER SERVICES WITHIN THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN FIND PROPER PLACEMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THOSE LEADS. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: 100% -- >> AND ALSO SEE A VERY DIRECT CORRELATION WITH THIS CONVERSATION AND WHEN DEPUTY CHIEF ROBINSON PRESENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRAIGHT TIE IN HERE WITH RESPECT TO INDIVIDUALS, UNSHELTERED, THAT NEED ASSISTANCE, IN THE UPTOWN COMMUNITY -- WELL, THROUGHOUT ALL OF CHARLOTTE. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: IN CLOSING WHAT I'LL SAY IS I LOVE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN YOUR TRACKING ON MY FIRST POINT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TRACKING THE THIRD POINT. AND THOSE WILL BE IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TRACKING. I THINK THAT SECOND ONE, AND YOU'RE TEEING US UP FOR EXACTLY THAT CONVERSATION TODAY, IT'S ABOUT FIRST MEASURING AND UNDERSTANDING WAS THE ULTIMATE COMPLAINT THAT WAS LODGED SOLVED? WHICH I HAVE TO ASSUME BASED ON JUST WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS SITUATION, PROBABLY ALMOST NOT ENTIRELY EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS THE WELFARE CHECKS. >> RIGHT. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: TWO, WHERE SHOULD THAT -- WHERE ARE -- LIKE, IF THERE WAS A PLACE TO TAKE THEM, AND AN ORDINANCE ENABLED TRANSITIONING SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHERE SHOULD THAT PERSON HAVE GONE IN THE BUCKETS OF, MENTAL HEALTH HELP, SHELTER, WORKFORCE AND TEMPORARY HOUSING, SO WE START TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE AND THEN I THINK THE THIRD CRITICAL PART IS, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO ONCE WE HAVE THAT MATRIX, DON'T VOLUNTARILY GO AND THEY ARE STILL DOING SOMETHING WITH THE ORDINANCE, WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? HOW THAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS? >> RIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS THEY MOVE INTO THAT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: THANK YOU. >> GO TO SLIDE 9, WENDE. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI, THIS MIGHT BE SPEAKING TO SOME OF WHAT YOU WERE JUST ASKING. AND SO JUST SOME OF THE TEAM'S SUCCESS STORIES, AGAIN, PART OF THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE BETTER CONNECTIONS WITH OUR SOCIAL SERVICE PARTNERS. SO YOU CAN SEE 57 CONSUMERS HAVE SHARED INFORMATION, CONNECTED OR REFERRED THEM TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS. 25 FOLLOWUP ENGAGEMENTS. IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A SMALL NUMBER, BUT TWO PEOPLE ARE IN THE PIEM FOR A PERMANENT SUPPORTING HOUSING VOUCHERS AND ONE PERSON TAKES INTO HOUSING AND THAT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THERE, THAT IS NOT A ONE-OFF INTERSECTION, THAT IS CONSISTENTLY WORKING WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WITH HIGH BARRIERS OF ENTRY OVER A SERIES OF WEEKS OR MONTH. TWO STORIES BELOW THAT I WANTED TO SHARE, THE TEAM PRACTICALLY ENGAGED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SLEEPING IN THE SAME SPOT FOR WEEK, THEY LEARNED THAT HE WAS BANNED FROM THE SHELTER. THEY WORKED TO GET HIS BAN LIFTED. AND THEY CONNECTED HIM TO A SHELTER BE ED THE NEXT DAY. THE SECOND ONE, I'VE GOT TO LOOK AT MY NOTES BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS. THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS HOMELESS IN UPTOWN FOR YEARS. BANNED FROM OVER 12 PROPERTIES, BANNED FROM ROOF ABOVE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CARES TEAM ENGAGED WITH HIM 26 TIMES SINCE MARCH. HE'S BEEN ARRESTED 20 TIMES SINCE OCTOBER 2020. AND THEY HELPED GET HIM A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD TWICE, SOON TO GET AN ID, SUBMITTED AN APPEAL TO GET HIS BENEFITS RESTORED, WORKED THROUGH THE HOUSING PROCESS TO GET HIM AN ADA UNIT, HE'S BEEN IN JAIL SO THE TEAM IS COORDINATED WITH THE PRETILE CASE CASEWORKER, HE SHOULD BE HOUSED WITHIN 1-2 MONTHS, THIS TYPE OF WORK REALLY TAKES A LONG TIME OVER A SERIES OF ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE CARES TEAM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS PERSON HAS BEEN RESISTANT TO ENGAGING WITH OFFICERS BEFORE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TAKEN THE TEAM, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS, BUT SOME OF THIS WORK FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CHRONICALLY UNSHELTERED AND UNHOUSED, IT DOES TAKE THIS LONG TO GET TO THIS PLACE. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRACK SOME OUTCOMES LIKE THIS. BUT THESE WERE JUST TWO STORIES AND A LITTLE BIT MORE I WANTED TO SHARE. >> IF I MAY, I THINK THAT BULLET IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, 26 CARES TEAM ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE ONE INDIVIDUAL. BECAUSE THAT DIRECTLY CORRELATES TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH IMPACT. AND HERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE INDIVIDUAL, THAT ACCOUNTED FOR 26 OF THEIR CALLS. WHICH IS PART OF THAT 268 TOTAL THAT WE SAW. SO SIMILARLY TO CRIME, AND CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, OFTENTIMES IT'S A SMALL NUMBER THAT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THE NUMBER FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN -- OH, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON? I SAID ONE MORE. ONE MORE AND THEN WE CAN DO THE FULL THING. SO OPPORTUNITIES, CHALLENGES AND NEXT STEPS. AGAIN, CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH CMPD AND DISPATCH AS WE LOOK TO SEE A HIGHER VOLUME OF CALLS DIRECTED TO THE CARES TEAM, PART OF THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, REGULAR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE OFFICERS, GETTING THEM FAMILIAR FOR WHEN TO CALL THE CARES TEAM, GETTING DISPATCH FAMILIAR WHEN TO SEND THE CARES TEAM. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. YOU KNOW, LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE STREET OUTREACH AND LONG-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE HIGH BARRIER INDIVIDUALS. THE PREVIOUS STORY SHARED ON THE OTHER SLIDE IS THE TEAM IS WORKING IN THE FIELD, AND ALYSON IS REALLY WORKING AS SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL'S CASE MANAGERS AND ALYSON IS OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR, NOT NECESSARILY A CASE MANAGER FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE COLLABORATION, MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BETTER CONNECT THE CARES TEAM AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND BUILDING RAPPORT WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, WITH SOMEONE WHO CAN BE THEIR LONG-TERM CASE MANAGER. NEST STEPS. AGAIN, LOOKING TO ONCE WE HAVE THAT -- WE HAVE THE BUTTON IN, SO LOOKING TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION THAT YIELDS US. AND THEN SEE WHERE WE GO IN THE FUTURE, ONCE WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FOR WHERE WE'RE OPERATING CURRENTLY. SO THAT'S IT. AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. >>RENEE JOHNSON: THANK YOU, JULIA. KUDOS TO THE CARES TEAM AND THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THIS AREA. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW ARE THESE CARES TEAM MEMBERS TRAINED? WHAT'S THE TRAINING? LIKE ARE THEY LICENSED COUNSELORS OR WHAT TRAINING DO THEY HAVE? >> ASK THE EXPERT OVER HERE. >> OKAY. >> SO THEY ARE CONTRACTED THROUGH MOBILE CRISIS, BOTH OF OUR CLINICIANS ARE LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS, THEY HAVE THEIR ASSOCIATES GREEN -- DEGREES, THEY SPEND MANY, MANY DAYS DOING RIDE ALONG WITH OFFICERS, WITH COMMUNITY COORDINATORS, AND THEY SPEND TIME DOING RIDE ALONGS WITH COMMUNICATIONS W DISPATCH AND 911 CALL TAKERS. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE. IT'S CHALLENGING HAVING A CIVILIAN INTEGRATE INTO THIS ROLE, THEY SPEND TIME GETTING COMFORTABLE WITH THE OFFICERS, A LOT OF RADIO TRAINING AND CONSTANTLY DOING CONTINUING EDUCATION, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN AS WELL ABOUT THE HOMELESS WAS SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY AND DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO USE IN THEIR TOOL BELT TO MAKE APPROPRIATE REFERRALS AND GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO WHAT THEY NEED TO. >>RENEE JOHNSON: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, MOBILE CRISIS, HOW IS THIS RELATED TO MOBILE CRISIS? ARE THESE MOBILE CRISIS EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH THEM, OR CMPD EMPL EMPLOYEES? >> WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CRISIS, CRISIS PROVIDES THE TWO CLINICIANS AND CLINICAL COORDINATOR, ALYSON IS OUR EMPLOYEE, YES. >>RENEE JOHNSON: OKAY. THERE IS MORE BEING DONE IN THE COMMUNITY. >> MOBILE CRISIS FALLS INTO CRISIS AS WELL. >>RENEE JOHNSON: I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT SERVICE, SO I WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE WERE COLLABORATING WITH RESOURCES THAT WERE ALREADY AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE'VE HAD 26 INTERACTIONS WITH -- THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AS YOU KNOW THAT ARE REPEAT -- NOT OFFENDERS BUT CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, I WOULD ASK IN YOUR ASSESSMENT, IF YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HISTORY OF HEAD INJURIES, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR BRAIN INJURY, AND THAT'S A VERY, VERY UNDERSERVED POPULATION AND ABOUT 50% OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE -- I MEAN, HAVE HISTORY OF A HEAD INJURY. SO I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION, THERE'S SO MANY INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE WALKING AROUND NOT GETTING THE APPROPRIATE SERVICE. AND THERE IS -- THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH TBI. AND WE KNOW THIS CITY HAS BEEN AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, WITH TBI AND BECAUSE KEITH LAMONT SCOTT, ONE OF THE THINGS HIS WIFE WAS SAYING SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND IMPERATIVE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THAT. SO THAT'S JUST MY PLUG. TO REALLY ADVOCATE FOR THOSE SURVIVORS, IF WE'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION, AND IF THERE AREN'T, I'M HAPPY TO TALK OFF LINE, THE TBI WAIVER, AND DIFFERENT RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SURVIVORS. AND REALLY, REAL LELY SHOW UP IN THE HOMELESS. HOPEFULLY WITH THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, THESE NUMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO DECREASE, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET SERVICES AND THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU. >> UH-HUH. >> I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. IT FEELS LIKE THIS WILL BE POTENTIALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE COMMUNITY HEALTHCARE WORKERS. WITHIN THAT SPACE AND TAPPING INTO, I KNOW AS A STATE, WE USE THEM IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL HEALTH FOR SOME OF THOSE WIDER SPREAD COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE. BUT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEVERAGE COMMUNITY HEALTHCARE WORKERS WITH THIS TEAM. >> I WOULD LOVE THAT. YES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF I CAN? GREAT PRESENTATION. I DIDN'T HEAR THE WORD MECKLENBURG COUNTY. AT ALL. IN TERMS OF THE COORDINATION, WITH THE COUNTY, WHO HAS MAJORITY OF THE SERVICES THAT MANY OF THE CLIENTS NEED. WHEN YOU GUYS INTERACT WITH THEM. SO WHERE IS THE COUNTY IN THE FORMATION OF THE PILOT AND AS WE KIND OF ASSESS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO GET THEM TO BE A PART OF -- AM I MISSING SOMETHING? >> I KNOW ALYSON COORDINATES WITH THE COUNTY, SHE'S A PART OF FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE GROUP THAT MEETS REGULARLY, SO IN TERMS OF A KNOWLEDGE SHARING ARRANGEMENT THAT IS DEFINITELY THERE, IN TERMS OF A MORE FORMALIZED PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE COUNTY WOULD PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE LONG-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT, THAT'S NOT AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE EXPLORED. JUST BECAUSE WE ONLY SIX MONTHS IN, NOT SURE HOW FAR WE WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO. BUT CERTAINLY, IF WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT AND FORMALIZED, PAIRING THIS WITH LONG-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT WOULD BE CRITICAL TO SUCCESS. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE STILL IN YOUR INFANCY, BUT I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THIS LONG-TERM, I HOPE THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROGRAM, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT AGAIN, THE GOVERNMENT THAT REALLY HAS THE RESOURCES TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY AS WELL AS OUR LARGE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, ATRIUM AND NOVANT AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH CAPACITY, UPDATES ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, A PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH LEADS ME TO THE -- TO THE OTHER POINT, I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF CENTER CITY PARTNERS AND GOING BACK THREE YEARS NOW, AND TENT CITY, WE HAD THE BIG COMMUNITY ROUND TABLE WITH CORPORATE LEADERS, THE COUNTY, THE CITY, OTHERS, SEAN'S PREDECESSOR, MS. WIDEMAN SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE, I DID AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER. WE HANDED THAT OFF TO THE UNITED WAY. SO IS UNITED WAY BEEN BRIEFED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING? AND DOES THAT REPORT -- THEY'RE NOW A CUSTODIAL OF THAT REPORT, ARE THEY INVOLVED IN THIS NOW? AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD? WILL BE EVALUATED AT THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE UNITED WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE HOLDING CUSTODY OF ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD, AM I CORRECT? SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT RELATIONSHIP. >> SO UNITED WAY IS AWARE OF THE CARES TEAM, SO IS CENTER CITY PARTNERS, ALYSON DOES A GREAT JOB ENGAGING WITH BUSINESSES, AND INDIVIDUALS IN UPTOWN. I THINK IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE HOME FOR ALL, I'M NOT SURE THIS -- WE HAD THIS IN A GOOD ENOUGH PLACE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM, TO INCORPORATE THAT, BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT AS THIS IS TACKLED TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, SOMETHING WILL LOOK TO DO. >> OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, I MET WITH THE GROUP OF CORPORATE LEADERS, THIS MORNING, ALL UPTOWN, MADE THEM AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL SECURITY TEAMS. AND SO COLLABORATING WITH WELLS FARGO, TRUIST, ALL OF THOSE PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, WHO HAVE PRIVATE SECURITY, THEY CAN -- I THINK WE USED TO MEET WITH THEM REGULARLY, CMPD, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT STILL HAPPENS. FROM AN UPTOWN PERSPECTIVE? >> STILL DO. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: THEY STILL DO. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE AS WE BEGIN TO EVALUATE THE PROGRAM LONG-TERM. GETTING THOSE ANTENNAS FEEDING INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING, A LOT MORE RESOURCE, THIS IS RESOURCE-DRIVEN. AND I THINK THAT CAN BE A PART OF HELPING US WITH THE RESOURCE QUESTION. MAKING SURE THAT WE GET MORE PEOPLE INDUSTRY, IE, WHICH COSTS MORE, THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PAY IN THE BUCKET TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COORDINATED APPROACH TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE. THEY HAVE A DIRECT INTEREST, I WOULD BELIEVE IN THAT. >> WE AGREE. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, ARE YOU READY FOR SEAN -- FOR US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, OR DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT CONVERSATION AND A PERFECT SEGUE INTO THE NEXT CONVERSATION. AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM ALLUDED TO IT IN REGARDS TO EITHER ISSUES GOING ON IN UPTOWN AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS WE FOCUS ON THAT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SEAN FOR THE NEXT TOPIC. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WATLINGTON. SO WE CAN MOVE INTO THE SECOND TOPIC AND THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF HULSEY. CHIEF ROBINSON JOIN US AT THE TABLE. THIS TO P -- TOPIC FOR A REVIEW OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN TERM OF THES AGENDA FOR TODAY, WE'LL VERY QUICKLY COVER THE REFERRAL ITSELF, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME FOOTING WITH REGARDING THE SCOPE OF THE REFERRAL, WE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CHARLOTTE CENTER PARTNER, WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION AND SOME OF THE KEY THEMES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT EVENT. DEPUTY CHIEF ROBINSON WILL THEN PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE ON DATA AND CONTEXT RELATED TO THE DATA ON ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I'LL WRAP UP WITH A FEW POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS FOR COMMITTEE DELIBERATION TODAY AND THEN ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO TODAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO SLIDES 3 AND 4, WERE PULLED VERBATIM, THIS IS CUT AND PASTE FROM THE REFERRAL ITSELF. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST VERY QUICKLY READ THIS TEXT ON BOTH OF THESE SLIDES, I CAN DO THIS IN 90 SECONDS OR LESS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. EARLY 2022 COUNCIL RESTORED CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT. AS AN OPTION FOR VIOLATION OF CERTAIN CITY ORDINANCES. BASED ON RECENT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, COUNCIL NEEDS TO REVIEW CONCERNS WITH ORDINANCE AND -- UNHOUSED POPULATION AND ADDRESS PERCEIVED SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS. POLICY QUESTION, WHAT EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES CAN THE CITY DEPLOY TO COLLABORATE WITH CHARLOTTE CITY PARTER NERS IN CENTER CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. SUBQUESTIONS, WHAT ARE COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND FEEDBACK RELATED TO UNHOUSED POPULATION? ARE THERE UPDATES OR REVISIONS TO THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CIVIL PENALTIES. TO BETTER HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES ACROSS THE CITY TO THRIVE. HOW CAN THESE STRATEGIES TAKE INTO -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE COMMITTEE CHARGE WAS CHARACTERIZE. LISTENING SESSION FOR RESIDENTS BUSINESS OWNERS AND OR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS OF THE EXISTING CONCERNS, CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA, AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES. WORK ARE CHARLOTTE CENTER CITY PARTNERS, UNITED WAY AND CMPD, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MECKLENBURG COUNTY. TO EXAMINE THE IMPACT OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS ON THE UNHOUSED POPULATION, THE ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES AND SERVICE PROVIDERS. AND FINALLY, PROPOSE FOR CONSIDERATION OF FULL CITY COUNCIL ANY RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES OR REVISIONS TO THE CITY CODE THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO THAT IS PULLED FROM THE REFERRAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. PUBLIC SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE, WE KNOW THESE ARE VERY BROAD CONCEPTS, AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THE PARTICULAR WORDING ON THIS SLIDE, OR THE CATEGORIZATION BUT THIS IS INTENDED TO BE REFLECTIVE OF SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER WATLINGTON SHARED LAST MONDAY NIGHT, IN TERMS OF A FRAME WORK THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. AS WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH THE NUMBER OF INTERRELATED CHALLENGE, ONE OF THE KEY POINTS HERE IS, AND WE'LL END ON THE MAYOR'S REFERRAL, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BODY OF WORK HAPPENING ACROSS THE CITY ORGANIZATION. THAT ALL FALL UNDERNEATH THESE BROAD CATEGORIES OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. YOU HEARD AN UPDATE FROM THE QUALITY OF LIFE WORK TEAM LAST WEEK RELATED TO COMMERCIAL TRUCK PARKING, ILLEGAL PARKING, AND LITTER. SAFE CHARLOTTE AND VISION ZERO ARE ONGOING. MOVING INTO THE MIDDLE CATEGORY. THERE'S A BODY OF WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC REALM, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, THIS COULD BE BUS SHELTERS, AND OTHER FIXTURES UPTOWN FOR EXAMPLE, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LIZ BABSON IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THAT WORK, AND THEN FINALLY ON THE RIGHT, REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND RETURN TO WORK, FOR UPTOWN EMPLOYEES, AND THEN ALSO, UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS AND POTENTIAL OFFICE CONVERSIONS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DOBSON IS IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BABSON, DODSON, AND MYSELF, ARE CONTINUING TO CONNECT DOTS ON THIS WORK. AND THE THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO THERE. WE KNOW THERE'S AN EXPECTATION FROM COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL THAT WE APPROACH THIS IN AN INTEGRATED FASHION, A HOLISTIC FASHION, THAT WE CONNECT THE DOTS SO WE'RE NOT DOING THIS IN SILOS. AND ON THE MAYOR'S REFERRAL, ITSELF, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THE KEY POINT, THIS WORK, SUBSTANTIVE IS ONE PIECE IN A LARGER PUZZLE. TODAY ISN'T INTENDED TO TALK ABOUT THE ENTIRE PUZZLE AND THE PIECES ON THE BOARD BUT TO DRILL DOWN INTO THE MAYOR'S REFERRAL, THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THE UNHOUSED POPULATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. TURNING OUR ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS EXPLICITLY CALLED FOR IN THE REFERRAL, FIRST A THANK YOU TO CHARLOTTE CENTER CITY PARTNERS FOR HELPING TO PULL THIS OFF. WE HAD ROUGHLY 90 EXTERNAL GUESTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SESSION HELD ON NORTH TRYON, IT SKEWED HEAVILY TOWARDS RESIDENTS, FOR CERTAIN, THERE WAS SOME REPRESENTATION IN THE ROOM FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND FROM THE NONPROFIT SECTOR OF A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS SESSION AS WELL. AND THE WAY WE ELECTED TO CONDUCT THIS SESSION RATHER THAN GIVING FOLKS THREE MINUTES AT A MICROPHONE WHICH WOULD HAVE TAKEN 5 OR 6 HOURS TO GET THROUGH, 13 TABLES AND TABLE TOP DISCUSSIONS, WITH THE NUMBER OF FACILITATED QUESTIONS. AND AT THE END OF THE SESSION, WE SPENT ABOUT 25-30 MINUTES WHERE EACH TABLE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE STAND UP AND SHARE RECURRING THEMES. I THINK IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE USE OF 90 MINUTES, THERE ARE A FEW FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SESSION. AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT 90 PEOPLE AT 13 TABLES OVER THE COURSE OF 90 MINUTES, IT CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE THEMES. BUT THERE WERE DEFINITELY A FEW THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AND BOUNCED AROUND FROM TABLE TO TABLE. I READ ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SCRIBED THAT EVENING, THERE WERE A DOZEN E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT AFTER THE SESSION, I READ OVER EVERY SINGLE WORD AND DOCUMENT FROM E-MAIL. FIRST, NUMBER ONE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE SESSION SUPPORT THE RESTORATION OF CRIMINAL PENALTY IFSER CERTAIN ORDINANCES. AND IMPORTANTLY, ALMOST WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WHEN THAT POINT WAS RAISED, THERE WAS ALSO A RECOGNITION THAT ENFORCEMENT ALONE IS NOT A SUFFICIENT TOOL. THAT ENFORCEMENT SHOULD REALLY BE COUPLED WITH AND TETHERED WITH OTHER NONENFORCEMENT AND HOL LISTIC SOLUTIONS, PREVENTIVE MEASURES, SOCIAL SERVICES, HOUSING, THE FULL SUITE OF THINGS, MORE ON THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION BUT THE KEY THEM WAS THE MULTIPRONGED APPROACH IS THE WAY TO GO. NUMBER TWO, GENERAL PERCEPTION AMONG THE PARTICIPANTS, THE SAFETY CONDITIONS HAVE WORSENED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AS I WENT FROM TABLE TO TABLE, I HEARD A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS, WHICH WAS, I'VE LIVED IN UPTOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I FEEL LESS SAFE TODAY THAN I DID THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE ON THAT POINT THAT CERTAINLY, MANY OF THE COMMENTS FOCUSED ON THE INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES T BUT THERE WAS ALSO A RECOGNITION THAT AS THEY HAVE ENCOUNTERED PEOPLE, WHO ARE IN THE MIDST OF A HEALTH EVENT OR A MENTAL HEALTH EVENT OR A SUBSTANCE EPISODE, THAT THEY'RE SURE OF HOW TO ACT IN THOSE SCENARIOS, THE SAFETY OF SOME OF OUR UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. THAT ARE FACING CHALLENGES. NUMBER THREE, HERE, WHICH MAY SEEM FAIRLY OBVIOUS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AS THIS WORK TRANSLATES INTO SOME RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT CONSIDERATIONS. IS THAT WHILE INDIVIDUALS WERE SAYING THAT THEY FEEL LESS SAFE AS A GENERAL RULE TODAY THAN THREE YEARS AGO, MOST WOULD SAY IT'S NOT ALL THE TIME, VERY SPECIFIC TO LOCATION AND TIME OF DAY, SO SOMETHING TO HIN THE BAK OF OUR MIND. NUMBER FOUR, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS AT THE EVENT AND WE'VE HEARD THIS FROM MANY STAKEHOLDERS OUTSIDE OF THE EVENT. THAT HAVE REENFORCED THESE BEHAVIORS AND ACTIONS THAT ARE OF CONCERN SHOULD NOT BE LABELLED AS BEHAVIORS AND ACTIONS, THAT ARE ONLY ALIGNED WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION, THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR. AND INACCURATE TO DO SO. SO I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL AS I TALK ABOUT THIS, TO NOT IN ANY WAY ALLUDE TO THIS AS ONLY SOMETHING THAT IS OF RELEVANCE TO THE UNHOUSED POPULATION. AND LAST, THE NIGHT BEFORE THE SURVEY, HEARTS WITH THE INVISIBLE, ROOF ABOVE AND THE SALVATION AMY, THE ECOSYSTEM PARTNERS IN THIS SPACE, TALKED WITH 25 UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND AMONG OTHER THINGS, ONE THING THAT THEY HEARD THAT JUMPED OUT FOR ME WAS THAT THE UNHOUSED RESIDENTS INDICATED THAT THERE IS A DEFINITIVE NEED FOR GREATER ACCESS TO PUBLIC RESTROOMS, BOTH THE NUMBER AND LOCATION OF THE RESTROOMS AND THEN ALSO, THE ABILITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FACILITIES. MORE OF A 24/7 BASIS, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF ROBINSON TO TALK ABOUT CMPD DATA PERSPECTIVE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT A HANDFUL OF ORDINANCES ON OUR RADAR, SOME YOU MAY WISH TO ADVANCE TO I A FULL COUNCIL CONVERSATION IN THE NEAR TERM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DO I NEED TO PRESS THAT? ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE PAST 45 DAYS AND THAT I THINK ARE RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION. ACTUAL EVENTS. AUGUST 24th, OFFICERS HAD A DISTURB, IN THE PARK, THE INCIDENT LASTED 24 MINUTES OVERALL. OFFICERS OBSERVED A FORM OF CRIMINAL ALCOHOL ORDINANCE VIOLATOR, BUT COULD NOT MAKE THE ARREST. DEALT WITH THINK RATE MAIL SEPTEMBER AS HE CONTINUES TO ARGUE AND BE DISRESPECTFUL AND BLIJ RAT. ALONG THE LIGHT RAIL TRAIL UNDER 11th STREET. THIS IS RESULTED IN COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS WHO USE THE PATH TO COMMUTE TO WORK, AND A REPORTED FEELING OF UNSAFE DUE TO THE OPEN ALCOHOL AND DRUG CONSUMPTION. PUBLIC URINATION AND DEFECATION HAS BECOME AN ISSUE, NOT JUST FROM THE IN-HOUSED BUT THE PATRONS OF UPTOWN. WHO MAY LEAVE A BAR, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND RELIEVE THEMSELVES ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY. ON BUSINESS. OFFICERS RESPONDED TO SEVERAL FIGHT CALLS AT RO MERE BEARDEN PARK, STEMMED FROM ALCOHOL ABUSE, MANY TIMES. THESE ASSAULT AND FIGHT CALLS INVOLVE INTOXICATED PERSONS, THESE INCIDENTS COULD HAVE BEEN REDUCED HAD WE HAD THE TOOLS AND THE ORDINANCE WAS CRIMINALLY ENFORCEABLE. AND THEN LASTLY, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO A CALL AT THE 7th STREET MARKET. ABOUT A MAN WHO WAS CLEARLY MASTURBATING UNDER HIS CLOTHING, AS HE BEGAN TO CORNER' FEMALE EMPLOYEE, INSIDE OF THE BUSINESS. AND WHILE HE ACTIVELY MASTURBATED, BUT DID NOT MEET THE ELEMENTS FOR INDECENT EXPOSURE, THE ACTION WAS NOT CRIMINAL FOR OUR PURPOSES. HE WAS LATER ARRESTED AFTER HE ASSAULTED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. THIS, TOO, COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. I'M NOT HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THE FACT TS, WE SERVE THE PUBLIC, AND WE SERVE AND UNDERSTAND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THAT COMMUNITY HAS EVERY RIGHT AND EXPECTATION TO DEFINE HOW THEY WISH TO BE POLICED. WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAY PLEASE GIVE US BACK THE ORDINANCE OR TAKE THESE AWAY, WE'RE HERE TO SAY, WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY, EXACTLY WHERE WE MEET THE COMMUNITY. WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS BEHAVIOR THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH OUR SHARED COMMUNITY VALUES AND TOO OFTEN, WHEN WE GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AFTER THE FACT, OR WE TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO'S CALLED 911, THEY SAY THIS. WHERE WERE THE POLICE? WHERE WERE THE POLICE WHEN WE NEEDED YOU? THE BETTER QUESTION IS NOT WHERE THE POLICE WERE. BUT WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO DO WHEN WE GET THERE? IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SEPARATE THAT DISTINCTION, THE CMPD AND CHIEF JENNINGS, ARE NOT LOOKING TO ARREST ANYBODY ELSE. WE SEEK VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE ON A DAILY BASIS, WE DO MORE WITH FLESZ LESS IN THE SENSE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A SAFE OUTCOME FOR EVERYBODY THAT DAY, NOT JUST THE OFFICERS AND IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT OFFICER SAFETY, THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT OUT OF THE NUMEROUS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CONTACTS EVERY YEAR, SOMETIMES OUR HANDS ARE TIED. SO TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DID PRIOR TO 2021. AND AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPLIANCE, WE TALK ABOUT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. WHERE THERE ARE NO HANDCUFFS, THERE'S NO FORCE USED, IT'S A CONVERSATION. HEY, SIR, MA'AM, WOULD YOU MIND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ME? AND IF WE CAN GET COMPLIANCE, OFTENTIMES THAT BEHAVIOR WILL STOP. SOMETIMES IT MAY ESCALATE TO A VERBAL WARNING. SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE TO WRITE A WRITTEN CRIMINAL CITATION. AND THEN SOMETIMES WE MAKE AN ARREST. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN WE MAKE AN ARREST, IT TAKES THAT OFFICER OFF THE STREET FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SOMETIMES WE CAN WAIT DOWN AT THE INTAKE CENTER FOR SEVERAL HOURS. JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF SHIFT CHANGE OR MAGISTRATE ISSUES OR WHATEVER. BUT THAT TAKES THAT OFFICER OFF THE STREET, WE CAN'T PREVENT CRIME IF WE'RE INSIDE OF THE JAIL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ENFORCEMENT AFTER THE ORDINANCE, WE DECRIMINALIZE, WE STILL HAVE COMPLIANCE, ALBEIT WE HAD LESS TEETH AVAILABLE TO AT LEAST SHOW. VERBAL WARNINGS, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK YOU AGAIN BECAUSE WE TALK TO YOU AGAIN, WE MAY HAVE TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN AND WE'RE ABLE TO WRITE A CIVIL CITATION AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT THAT ISN'T WORTH THE PAPER IT'S PRINTED ON, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. SUBSTANCE ABUSE, OR IS UNHOUSED AND LET ME MAKE A DISTINCTION. AT NO TIME DOES THE CMPD OR CHIEF JENNINGS WANT TO CRIMINALIZE HOMELESSNESS, THE UNHOUSED ARE BUT ONE LEG ON THIS STOOL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE ENCOUNTER ON A DAILY BASIS, PEOPLE WITH SIGNIFICANT ALCOHOL AND DRUG ADDICTION THAT OUR OFFICERS ENCOUNTER ON A DAILY BASIS, DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, DOING THE SAME THING. IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO THE SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T BE DRINKING BEER AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING OUT IN FRONT OF THE SPECTRUM CENTER, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE AN EVENT. IF WE SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO CLEAN THIS AREA UP, COME DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE COME BACK AND YOU'RE STILL HERE, WE WON'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO WRITE YOU A CRIMINAL CITATION, WE DON WANT TO DO IT BUT TAKE YOU TO JAIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARREST PLAY. WE GET NO JOY OR PLEASURE OUT OF TAKING SOMEBODY TO JAIL. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. BUT WHEN WE ARRIVE AND DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS, IT MAKES OUR JOB DIFFICULT, OFTEN TYPES THAT BEHAVIOR, WHEN IT WAS A CRIMINAL -- I'M SORRY, A CIVIL SUMMONS UNCHANGED. THAT LESSONS OUR EFFECTIVENESS AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TO THE PERSON WHO CALLED, I GO BACK TO THAT PERSON AND I SAY, HEY, WE DID OUR BEST, BUT OUR BEST CLEARLY WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH, BECAUSE THAT PERSON, THAT PROBLEM, THAT SITUATION, STILL THERE. STILL THERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS FOR THIS IS THAT I DON'T CARE HOW EASILY IT IS TO GET IN OR OUT OF JAIL, OR HOW MUCH OUR OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME FOR SOMETHING SEEMINGLY MINOR, IF WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, THAT HEY, JAIL IS ON THE TABLE, AND AN ARREST IS ON THE TABLE, WE OFTENTIMES GET COMPLIANCE. IT'S ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOL BELT. AND IT IS A DETERRENT. IT ABSOLUTELY IS. THERE'S NO QUESTION. ALMOST 28 YEARS ON THESE STREETS, I'VE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS A CAPTAIN IN CENTRAL AND NO MATTER WHAT NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO GO TO JAIL, NOBODY DOES. NOW, HE'S THE THING. IF WE'RE ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S IN IT FOR US, WE GET THE PERSON OUT OF THAT ENVIRONMENT, AND WE BREAK THAT CYCLE, EVEN FOR JUST A MINUTE, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CHANGES THE ENVIRONMENT FOR TWO PEOPLE, ONE, THE PERSON WHO CALLED, AND TWO, THE PERSON WHO WE ARE REMOVING FROM THAT SITUATION. AND I CAN TELL YOU BACK TO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A HOMELESS, MENTAL HEALTH, AND OFTENTIMES A DRUG AND ALCOHOL ISSUE, THAT ONE INSTANCE WHERE THEY GO TO THE JAIL, TO THE INTAKE CENTER, COULD BE THE TIME THAT THEY ENGAGE WITH A COUNSELOR WHO CAN HELP THEM WITH WRAP AROUND SERVICES. NOBODY IS LOOKING TO TAKE SOMEBODY WHO'S UNHOUSED TO JAIL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. IT'S THE BEHAVIORS THAT COME WITH THOSE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OUR CRISIS CYCLE RECOVERY, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHANGING SOMEBODY'S BEHAVIOR, IF SOMEBODY IS IN THAT LOOP, AND ALL WE DO IS JUST BECOME A FIXTURE OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT, RATHER THAN A CHANGE AGENT, THAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED AND IT LESSONS OUR EFFECTIVENESS. THESE ARE AREAS OF SHARED COMMON INTERESTS. BECAUSE I CAN POINT TO NUMEROUS TIMES WHERE MAYBE ONE OF YOU IN THIS ROOM OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR ALL OF US HAVE SAID, HOW CAN WE DO BETTER, HOW CAN WE BE MORE EFFICIENT, HOW CAN WE GIVE OUR MEN AND WOMEN ON THE STREETS WHAT THEY NEED? IN ORDER TO EFFECT POSITIVE CHANGE WITHIN SOMEBODY'S LIFE BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, ANYBODY WHO'S AN EXPERT ON HOMELESSNESS OR ALCOHOL AND DRUG ADDICTION OR MENTAL HEALTH AND I'M NOT THAT PERSON, WILL TELL YOU, UNTIL WE GET THAT PERSON THE HELP THAT THEY NEED, JAIL IS NOT GOING TO FISSION -- FIX IT. OUR EFFECTIVENESS ISN'T GOING TO BE CHANGED IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO I COME HERE TODAY, NOT TO SAY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE US WHAT WE NEED. WE WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF WE HAD RESOURCES THAT ENCOMPASSED IT ALL. I WEAR A BADGE TONIGHT AND IF YOU SEE A COUPLE OF TO FOLKS IN UNIFORM THAT REPRESENTS 30 YEARS OF A SHARED PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY AND COUNCIL, WHEN WE ALIGN BACK IN 1993. WE BECAME ONE. AND WE CAME TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGY WITHIN THIS CITY. AND THIS COUNTY. AND HERE 30 YEARS LATER, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT TWO, IT POINTS TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE ANSWER HERE, WHICH IS, SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO CAN COME TO THE TABLE AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. AND ENVIRONMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. TO PROVIDE MORE CONNECTION. REGARDING CERTAIN SERVICE CALLS. AND THEN DATA THAT FOLLOWS. SO WE DID A LITTLE DEEP DIVE INTO THIS. OUR CALL TOTALS TRENDED DOWN OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS JURISDICTION WIDE AND CENTRAL. SO CENTRAL DIVISION, OBVIOUSLY OUR UPTOWN AND IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT NO DIVISION WITHIN OUR CITY IS IMMUNE TO THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND IF YOU DRIVE OVER TO TYVOLA AND HARRIS BOULEVARD AND ALBEMARLE ROAD, BALLANTYNE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THIS ISN'T JUST RESTRICTED TO CENTRAL DIVISION, OR TO METRO, THIS IS CITYWIDE. I THINK THERE'S BECOME A BIT OF A DESENSITIZATION TO THIS TYPE OF THE BEHAVIOR, PEOPLE STEP OVER THE PERSON, MOVE PAST THE BROKEN BEER BOTTLES OR DRIVE PAST THE PERSON LOITERING IN THE STREET. THE CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, CENTRAL DIVISION, TRENDED DOWN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS JURISDICTION WISE. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? I THINK WE DO WHAT'S MOST EFFECTIVE. I THINK THE POLICING FOLLOWS THE PATH OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US NOT TO DO. NOW, WHAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU TODAY ARE EXAMPLES WHERE WE START HERE AND WE LEAVE AND WE COME BACK AND SOMEONE HAS BEEN ASSAULTED. SOMEONE HAS BEEN PENNED AGAINST THE WALL. SOMEONE HAS BEEN INTIMIDATED WHILE WALKING TO THEIR CAR. ARREST FOR THE SELECT CHARGE TYPES HAVE TRENDED DOWN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PUBLIC AND INDECENT EXPOSURE OR PUBLIC SEX ACT. SO TO SEPARATE THIS, WE DO STILL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT INDECENT EXPOSURE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO COMPLETES THAT IN TERMS OF VISUALLY, SOMEBODY SEES, A PERSON'S GENITALIA, FOR EXAMPLE. IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE CORNER AND DRINKING AN OPEN BOTTLE OF LIQUOR, THAT IS A STATE ALCOHOL CHARGE, WE CAN MAKE AN ARREST IN THAT. BUT THOSE ARE FEWER AND FAR BETWEEN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH NUMBERS. AND THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL. AND IN YOUR APPENDIX. BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM 2018 TO 2023, WHAT OUR DATA IS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP ONE, ABC INTOXICATED PERSON, TOTAL CITIZEN INITIATED HAS GONE DOWN, LESS CALLS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC IS JUST SAYING, IF I CALL, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD ANYWAY. OFFICER INITIATED, HAS TRENDED DOWN, HOWEVER, THAT PROVES THAT WE'RE NOT OUT HERE JUST WALKING AROUND AND LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO BUST. THESE ARE TYPICALLY CALLS THAT WE GET FOR SOMEBODY SAYING, HEY, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE DRINKING IN THE ALLEY. WE NEED YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. NOW, PANHANDLING AND LOITERING FOR MONEY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE THAT, BECAUSE CLEARLY, BASED ON THE CASE LAW AND COURT PROCEEDINGS, THAT IS A 1ST AMENDMENT ISSUE THAT WE HAVE NOT WADED INTO AS MUCH, WE GET THE CALLS AND THIS BODY AND THIS CITY HAS TALKED ABOUT PANHANDLING TO THE MAX, WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT PART OF WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH WHEN PEOPLE DO CALL AND THEN WE EXPLAIN WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO FOR THOSE OUT THERE WHO THINK THAT THIS IS JUST ABOUT ARRESTS, WE ARGUE STRENUOUSLY THAT IT'S NOT. WE REMAIN AN ORGANIZATION FOCUSED UPON REMOVING VIOLENT OFFENDERS FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS, IT TAKES A WAY THE ARGUMENT THAT THE POLICE ARE JUST OUT THERE TO HAR RACE THE HOMELESS. WE'RE NOT. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE KID WHO STARTED OUT IN THIS DEPARTMENT, IN 1996, TO THE MAN YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY. THIS DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN. THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN INFLUENCED. THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BECOME A THINKING CARING BELIEVING ORGANIZATION, IN THE VALUE OF HUMAN INTERACTION THAT'S POSITIVE. AND THE DELIVERY OF HUMAN SERVICES THAT DON'T INVOLVE HANDCUFFS, THAT CREATE A POSITIVE CHANGE. WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN. WE KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN. WE KNOW IT CAN EXIST. THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN WE TAKE SOMEBODY TO JAIL, OFTEN TYPES, THE COURT SYSTEM BEING AS BUSY AS IT IS AND COVID AND RESOURCES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT, WE THINK ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS, OFTENTIMES PEOPLE MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. THIS ISN'T A GOOD BAD, EVIL, A GOOD OR EVIL -- GOOD VERSUS BAD, RIGHT, VERSUS RIGHT, GOOD -- THIS IS NOT THAT. THIS EASY ARE PEOPLE IN CRISIS. -- THESE ARE PEOPLE IN CRISIS. THAT ARE MANIFESTING BEHAVIORS THAT OUR COMMUNITY AT-LARGE HAS SAID, HEY, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR VALUES AND I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THEM. BUT UNTIL THE ORDINANCE CHANGE, IF IT CHANGE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH. AND WHEN WE TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND SAY, WHAT WE CAN DO, OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, I WOULD RATHER TELL THEM WHAT WE CAN DO AND SHOW THEM THERE ARE ACTIONS THAT WE CARE AND THAT WE BELIEVE IN SERVICE DELIVERY, THAT INCLUDES A WRAP AROUND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT BASIC HUMAN SERVICES ARE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I TURN IT BACK OVER TO SHAWN? >> I HAVE THREE SLIDES, WHICH I'LL COVER IN LESS THAN THREE MINUTES AND WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR EVERYBODY. >> THAT YOU. SHAWN. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. CHAPTER 15 OF THE CODE WITH OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS. HAS OVER 80 ORDINANCES. AND THESE ARE 8 IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE ON OUR RADAR. THERE ARE TWO ON THIS LIST WHERE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS THAT COULD COMPLICATE SOME CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THE PENALTY. I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THE ONES IN BLUE ON THIS SLIDE, THESE ARE THE THREE WHERE WE BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN CONSISTENT AND STRONG COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, NOT JUST IN LAST WEEK'S SESSION. AND THESE MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS TODAY. AND POSSIBLY MOVE FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL DELIBERATION IN THE NEAR FEATURE, 15-3, POSSESSION OF OPEN CONTAINER, MASTER BAGS IN PUBLIC AND DEFECATION ON CERTAIN CITY PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ON THIS SLIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY GO FROM RIGHT TO LEFT. SO BY AND LARGE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST 30 MINUTES IS REALLY FOCUSED ON ENFORCEMENT. AND I WOULD SAY BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK LAST WEEK, BASED ON STAFF'S DISCUSSIONS, WITH STAKEHOLDERS, THAT WORK IN THE ECOSYSTEM, OUR BELIEF IS THAT IF WE START AND STOP WITH ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE STOPPED MUCH TOO SOON. SO THIS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT LAST WEEK, HE MADE REFERENCE TO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE A BROADER VIEW OF WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION. SO ENFORCEMENT. PREVENTION, DETERRENCE AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND HOUSING OPTIONS. WE HAVEN'T FULLY RESEARCHED THESE, WE HAVEN'T FULLY ANALYZED THESE, WE HAVEN'T VETTED THESE WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WE HAVEN'T PRICED THESE OUT, I DON'T HAVE A PRICE TAG FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT WE WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THAT IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD AROUND PARTICULAR ORDINANCES AND THIS RE-ESTABLISHING ENFORCEMENT, IN PARALLEL TO THAT WORK, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE NEXT 60 IDAS TO EVALUATE WHAT'S A BROADER SUITE OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IN VERY EARLY CALENDAR YEAR 2024 TO DEMONSTRATE A HOST OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO BETTER FOCUS ON THE UNDERLYING ROOT CAUSES. THAT ARE DRIVING MANAGEMENT TO THE STREET. I CAN'T KIND OF OVERSTATE HOW CHALLENGING SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC SCENARIOS CAN BE. IT CAN TAKE MONTHS FOR SOMEONE TO JUST BUILD RAPPORT AND TRUST WITH SOMEONE, IN ORDER TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT OPTIONS CAN LOOK LIKE. IT CAN TAKE MONTHS, MORE TO EVALUATE WHO ARE THE RIGHT AGENCY PARTNERS TO WORK WITH AND HOW TO REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE UNDERLYING ROOT CAUSES, BUT WITHOUT STREET OUTREACH, REALLY, YOU NEED THAT TO BE PROACTIVE. CHARLOTTE CENTER CITY HAS A FEW AMBASSADORS THAT ARE OUT IN THE STREET, ONE IS TRAINED AS A SOCIAL WORKER. ONE OF THE MORE OBVIOUS THINGS THAT THAT HAS COME UP WITH PUBLIC RERESTROOMS PORTLAND, OR OREGON. CMPD PATROLS, JUST THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF OFFICERS ON BICYCLES, FOR INSTANCE, CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND THEN IN HUMAN SERVICES, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE INNOVATIONS WITHIN CMPD ON CPCRT AND THE CARES TEAM. MECKLENBURG COUNTY HAS THREE MEMBER STAFF THAT WORK ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIVERSION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY DIVERTING INDIVIDUALS FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUES, AND THEN OF COURSE HOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND PERM NAMENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. SO THESE ARE THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEVOTE TIME AND ATTENTION TO OVER THE NEXT 60 DAYS. THE CITY CANNOT DO THIS WORK ALONE. WE DON'T HAVE THE HUMAN RESOURCES, AND THE PEOPLE POWER, WE DON'T HAVE IF FINANCIAL RESOURCES, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO STAND UP AND DO THIS WORK ON OUR OWN, IT WOULD REQUIRE COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE NONPROFIT AGENCY PARTNERS, AND WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THESE ISSUES, MUCH MORE WORK WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO VET OUT WHAT DOES THAT SUITE OF NONENFORCEMENT RELATED RECOMMENDATIONS LOOK LIKE? THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BY COMMITTEE EARLY NEXT YEAR? LAST SLIDE, PLEASE. SO JUST FINISHING OFF, TODAY, COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK. IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE TO ADVANCE CERTAIN ORDINANCES TO FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION, JUST A REMINDER THAT THE NORTH CAROLINA LAW PASSED IN 2021 REQUIRES THAT THAT BE A TWO-STEP PROCESS, STEP ONE IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE BROUGHT INTO A COUNCIL CONVERSATION AT A BUSINESS MEETING. STEP TWO IS THAT A SUBSEQUENT BUSINESS MEETING THAT'S WHEN THE VOTE AND ADOPTION WOULD TAKE PLACE. NEAR TERM NEXT STEPS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I HAVE SAID PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PIECES ON THE PUZZLE BOARD LINED UP AND INTEGRATED. THERE'S WORK THAT IS NEEDED TO WORK WITH THE NONENFORCEMENT OPTIONS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS IN EARLY 2024, I'LL STOP THERE AND -- COUNCIL MEMBER WATLINGTON, QUESTIONS. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU. ( INAUDIBLE ) ACTION TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN PARTICULAR, IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN THAT -- I THINK VICE-CHAIR HAS HER HAND UP. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, I DO SUPPORT US MOVING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD TO START THE STEP PROCESS WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME FOR STAFF. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MR. HEATH, AND THIS GOES BACK TO YOUR LAST STATEMENT REGARDING, BASICALLY, IT WILL TAKE A VILLAGE. DO WE ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH PROJECT OUTPOUR? AS WELL AS -- WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES RIGHT HERE, IN THE CHARLOTTE AREA THAT PROVIDES MOBILE SHOWER SERVICES, RESTROOMS, DIFFERENT THINGS, I KNOW PROJECT OUTPOUR IS ONE OF THEM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE SHOWERS TO THE PEOPLE, AS WELL AS HOPE TAKE. SO THERE'S AT LEAST THREE THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE WORKING, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THEM. AND IF NOT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE BUILD THIS OUT? >> WE HAVEN'T YET, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, MOST CERTAINLY. AND ONE ORGANIZATION THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSION, LAST WEEK, IT WAS OUTPOUR. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: YEAH, PROJECT OUTPOUR. >> PARTICIPATED IN THE LISTENING SESSION LAST WEEK. >>LAWANA MAYFIELD: OKAY. THANK YOU, BECAUSE I DO KNOW OF THEIR WORK, AND HAVE MET THEM OUT IN COMMUNITY. SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ALREADY CONSIDERING THOSE POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS MOLINA, BOKHARI OR JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY -- SHE STEPPED OUT. DO YOU HAVE ANY DIRECT FEEDBACK? >>TARIQ BOKHARI: YEAH. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. AS ALWAYS. I WOULD SLIGHTLY PUSH BACK AS TO THE -- I DON'T THINK I HEARD ANYTHING I COMPLETELY DISAGREED WITH TODAY. I THINK THAT THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS IN A LOT OF THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS GOOD WORK. I THINK THAT THE THING I WOULD DISAGREE WITH IS THE ORDER OF NEXT STEPS. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO APPROACH THIS WITH THE URGENCY THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS OBVIOUSLY EXPECT OF US, BEING POUND FOR POUND, A VERY LARGE ISSUE OF CONCERN FOR EVERYONE ACROSS THIS CITY. I THINK WE NEED TO -- WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT DATA POINTS OF WHAT THE CARES TEAM HAS DONE. AS A STARTING POINT. WE UNDERSTAND THE SERVICE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE. BUT ALSO, WE'RE STARTING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GAPS WE HAVE. IN SOLVING ALL OF THIS. SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE SOME ACTIONS OR AT LEAST TEE UP THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE SOME ACTIONS THAT MIGHT FORCE -- THAT MIGHT FORCE US TO EVEN HAVE GREATER URGENCY AND NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT THE COUNTY AND ALL OF THE OTHER PARTNERS. AND I THINK WHAT WE -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS VERY INTRICATE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO APPROACH THIS, THE FIRST TOPIC WAS PERFECT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE EMPATHY LONG-TERM, LIKE, SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION. THIS SECOND PIECE IS THE DAILY REALITY OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE EITHER DOING OR UNABLE TO DO. I THINK WHAT A VERY SIMPLE APPROACH TO FORCE US, AGAIN, INTO THE SOLUTION IS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WE HAVE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON NUMBER ONE. AND WE HAVE TREATED NUMBER TWO AS EITHER A PROBLEM OR AN AFTER THOUGHT UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY GOOD THING. SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET THIS COUNCIL -- AGAIN, DON'T EXPECT ANY ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY TO MAKE KIND OF POLITICAL GUESSES ON BEHALF OF WHAT THE WILL OF THIS BODY IS. BUT WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS, A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF ORDINANCES, THAT THREADS ALL OF THE NEEDLES THAT ARE NECESSARY AND ACCOMPLISHES ONE THING, WHICH IS, IF YOU ARE DOING THESE LISTS OF ITEMS, AGGRESSIVELY PANHANDLING IN OUR INTERSECTIONS, PITCHING TENTS OR SLEEPING OR EXISTING IN ENTIRETY IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS AROUND THE CLOCK AND WE SEE YOU THERE EVERY DAY, THE DEFECATION, URINATION, MASTER -- ALL OF THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, LET'S GET A LIST OF JUST THE ORDINANCES THAT WOULD ENABLE THOSE FOLKS TO BE -- TO BE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE THEY AREN'T DOING THAT ANYMORE OVERNIGHT. AND THEN, WHAT WE DO, FROM THAT -- AND THERE WILL BE A COUNTLESS THINGS THAT WILL COME UP, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, I CAN PROMISE YOU, THERE ARE -- THERE'S -- THE FIRST AMENDMENT ARGUMENT FOR AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING IN EVERY ONE OF OUR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, I DON'T BELIEVE WILL ULTIMATELY HOLD WATER, AND GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION SOMETIMES TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE WHO SUES US. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS DESIGNED FOR THAT. RIGHT? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN TAKE BOLD MOMENTS AND I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE DO THAT, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE CAN SEND OUT THE CARES TEAM AND OTHERS AS THE HOPE OF INITIAL VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE WANT, BECAUSE WE WANT THESE FOLKS TO GO TO THE DOORSTEP OF A PROGRAM THAT IS THERE TO ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO HELP THEM GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. AND THEN OUR OFFICERS ARE IN A SPOT, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, TO AGAIN, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY BUT THEN SAY, OKAY, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, DO THEY NEED TO GO TO JAIL WHERE A PROFESSIONAL IS THERE TO HELP COAX THEM -- THE BOTTOM LINE IS, TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO THIS. ONE, OVERNIGHT, THAT PART OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE CAN BE SOLVED FROM WHERE IT EXISTS TODAY, WHICH ISN'T GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THOSE FOLKS, BUT THEN, TWO, IT STARTS TO ROUTE THEM IN THE DIRECTION OF WHERE THEY CAN GET THE HELP, AND I THINK IF WE DO THAT PART, PAIRED WITH ACTUALLY STACKING UP FOLKS THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE FOR THEM. VOLUNTARY OR THE OPTION TO DO GO TO JAIL AND ROUTED THERE AND CONVINCED OR THE HOMELESS SHELTERS, OR TEMPORARY HOUSING WHO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CAPABILITIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO FORCE A SITUATION WHERE WE IMMEDIATELY SEE WHAT THE HUMANITARIAN CREWS SIS ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, WHEN IT'S NOT SPREAD ACROSS ALL 7 DISTRICTS OF CHARLOTTE. BUT IT'S AT THE DOORSTEP OF THE PLACE THEY MOST NEED TO BE. AND THAT'S WHERE COMPASSION, I THINK, WILL MEET ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE MORE TOUGH LOVE KIND OF LAW-BASED APPROACH THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TOWARDS SHEPHERDING THERE, I'M NOT GOING TO MINIMIZE THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT STATEMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE UNDER THE LAW, I'M JUST SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE A GOAL OF ORDINANCES THAT ENABLE THROUGH VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE OR THEN THE ULTIMATE KIND OF NOT CARROT BUT STICK ENABLE US TO GET FOLKS WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU. >> THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU MOLINA JOHNSON. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE UNDER A TIME -- WE DO HAVE A HARD STOP AT 5:30. I KNOW THERE ARE TWO OTHERS THAT ARE NONCOMMITTEE MEMBERED, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ACTION IS OUT OF THE COMMITTEE. >>MARJORIE MOLINA: THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. AND FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT REALLY BRIEF. FIRST OF ALL, I THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS A VERY DELICATE SITUATION. MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON, WE WERE ACTUALLY AT THAT MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM UPTOWN. WE HEARD THEIR PASSION, WE HEARD THEIR CONCERNS, AND AS A COMMUNITY, WE DO PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON UPTOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, HOST A LOT OF OUR EVENTS, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO VISIT OUR CITY, THEY TEND TO CONG CONGREGATE, SO THEY FEEL A LARGE BRUNT OF PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE COMING TO OUR CITY, NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH WHAT OUR ORDINANCES ARE, YOU KNOW? IT'S COMMON SENSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, JUST GIVE AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE ENFORCE AND WHAT WE DON'T AS A CITY, SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT POINT. BUT I DO REALIZE ACTUALLY WHAT YOU SAID AND I GET, YOU KNOW, REFERENCES PARTICULARLY IN DISTRICT 5, IN THE HICKORY GROVE DIVISION, YOU ALREADY KNOW THEY GET A WEALTH OF CALL FOR THE SAME EXACT THINGS. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ACROSS OUR CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE REPRESENT A DISTRICT OR AT-LARGE, WE REALIZE FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ISSUES ARE HAPPENING ACROSS OUR CITY. MY ONLY RELUCTANCE TO ACTING ABSOLUTELY RIGHT NOW, IS, YOU KNOW, WE PUT YOU GUYS THEN IN A RISK MITIGATION POSITION, RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ACT IN AN AD HOC, YOU KNOW, DETERMINANT OPPORTUNITY UNTIL WE'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO PROVIDE RELEVANT POLICY GUIDANCE FOR NOT ONLY OUR STAFF, BUT FOR OUR PARTNERS LIKE YOU GUYS, TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND THEN WE ALSO LEAVE YOU KIND OF OPEN-ENDED WITH, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY HAVING THOSE ESTABLISHED UNDERSTANDINGS FOR PARTNERSHIP, AND OTHERWISE, AND I THINK IT IS OUR DUE DILIGENCE, IT'S A PORTION OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY TO AS BEST AS WE CAN, AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN, AND, YOU KNOW, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF URGENCY, TO TRY TO TIE UP AS MANY GAPS AS WE CAN, BEFORE WE SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ENFORCED BY OUR LAW MAKING BODY. MOST OF US KNOW, PARTICULARLY, WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION, THAT, YOU KNOW, ARREST IS NOT THE ANSWER. IT'S NOT DEFINITIVE. MOST OF US KNOW THAT RESOURCES ARE MANDATORY. YOU KNOW, AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN ORDER, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A PIECE OF ME THAT'S A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS OVERWORK OUR RESOURCES THE LAW MAKING BODY TO DO THE SAME THING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TIE UP THE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS AS BEST AS WE CAN SO WE CAN SERVICE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS ISN'T JUST OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION. AS WE LEARNED FROM THAT MEETING. THOSE ARE PEOPLE SOMETIMES WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE WHO COME AND ENJOY OUR CITY, AND LOVE OUR CITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO VISIT UPTOWN, WHO ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES, WHO DO THINGS THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO IN THEIR OWN AREAS SO IT'S A -- IT'S A WEALTH OF THINGS, NO ONE THING, BUT WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS CONSIDERED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, AND HAVE STAFF TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ROUND OUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. AS A RESULT OF TAKING ACTION, AND, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF PIGGY-BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER BOKHARI SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M -- I'M DELIGHTED TO SEE THE THREE THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OTHER ONES CAN WE PACKAGE HERE? I IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL DATA, THAT YOU CAN IP INSTRUCT US ON, YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS HAVE SEEN, THAT MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU TOOLS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S CRAZY TO SHOW UP TO A GUN FIGHT AND YOU HAVE LIKE A WATER GUN. RIGHT? LIKE IT'S -- AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINKING OF THIS COMPREHENSIVELY, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WITH THE TIME A LOTTED AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINK OF IT HOLISTICALLY AND TIE IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER SERVICES SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE RIGHT INSTRUCTION FROM THE POLICY MAKING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON? >>RENEE JOHNSON: THANK YOU. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS DATA FROM THE 2022 CHANGE, WHEN WE DECRIMINALIZED SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES. I WANT THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT WERE DECRIMINALIZED, AND MORE HISTORY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE DID THAT BEFORE AND WE WERE VERY THOUGHTFUL WHEN WE DID THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE HISTORY ON WHICH CHARGES WERE DECRIMINALIZED AND HOW THAT'S CREATED A BARRIER. I WOULD LIKE SOME HISTORY BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A PART OF THE NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU. SO MUCH, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMITTEE AT THIS MOMENT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S APPETITE TO TAKE A PARTICULAR ACTION TO DATE. COULD YOU GO IN THE CONTROL ROOM TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES WERE BEING REQUESTED TO BE CRIMINALIZED, JUST FOR REFERENCE FOR THE DISCUSSION? AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON AND THEN MAYOR PRO TEM. >> SLIDE 13, WENDE. >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE REFER BACK TO -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE SLIDE, BUT THE POLICY QUESTION AND THE DIRECTIVE WAS AROUND HOW DO YOU HOLISTICALLY ADDRESS THE PERCEIVED SAFETY CONCERNS AND CITY CENTER AND SURROUNDING AREAS. SO I THINK THAT THE DIRECTIVE IS AROUND THAT HOLISTIC APPROACH, I WOULD WANT US TO BE DELIBERATE AND MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY PUT IN TO POLICY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FULL MACROVIEW. BECAUSE DISTRICT 1 IS A PART OF UPTOWN, I GET A TON OF COMMUNICATIONS FROM DISTRICT 1 RESIDENTS AROUND A LOT OF THESE -- A LOT OF -- A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. AND CHALLENGES. BUT I'LL JUST POINT OUT ON SLIDE 11, YOU KNOW, WITH 2018, WE HAD 419 CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS ABOUT INTOXICATION AND IN 2023, WE HAVE 102. JUST GIVEN THAT'S NOT EVEN TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE DENSITY INCREASE AND POPULATION INCREASE IN THE CENTRAL DIVISION OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OR SIX-YEAR PERIOD. SO THERE'S CLEARLY A LACK OF ENGAGEMENT BY CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S TEETH TO ACTUALLY CHANGE AND CREATE BEHAVIOR MODIFICATIONS. SO I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION AND WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE ENGAGED BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO SHARE IS WHEN WE WERE AT THE LISTENING SESSION, THE CITIZENS THE BRING UP THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING FOR EXAMPLE AND HOW NEBULOUS IT IS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND ONCE WE DO STAND UP AND RECRIMINALIZE SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES, MAKING SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY IN THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING OR BEING AGGRESSIVE, THOSE ARE JUST THOUGHTS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM? >>BRAXTON WINSTON: THANKS. SO I WANTED TO PUT ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION OUT THERE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HEARING IT IN THE PUBLIC AND FROM CMPD AND I HEARD IT IN SOME COMMENTS HERE, CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T DECRIMINALIZE ANY OF THESE ORDINANCES. THIS WAS AN ACT DONE BY THE NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY. RIGHT? NOT JUST THE CHARLOTTE, TO EVERY MUNICIPALITY ACROSS THE STATE. SO I JUST -- JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE TO US. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT A SITUATION THAT WAS CREATED BY CHARLOTTE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION. THAT HAS GOTTEN LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION. AGAIN, FROM THE MEDIA, FROM CMPD, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE COUNCIL CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS. I THINK IT'S A LARGE LEAP TO SUGGEST THAT WE KNOW WHY THE NUMBER OF CITIZEN INITIATED RESPONSES BETWEEN 2020 AND NOW HAVE OCCURRED. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK, PERHAPS, AS WE GO IN THIS HOLISTIC POINT OF VIEW. BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY OR MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND AMERICA ARE AFRAID TO CALL THE POLICE AND ASK THEM TO INITIATE INVESTIGATIONS. SO I WOULD -- I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ASK THAT QUESTION TO FIGURE OUT MORE DATA BEHIND WHY THOSE DECREASES HAVE OCCURRED, IF THAT IS IN FACT IMPORTANT TO US. TO JUST THROW OUT THERE AN ASSUMPTION OUT THERE, I THINK WAS WRONG. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR CHIEF ROBINSON. YOU MENTIONED THIS INSTANCE OF MA MASTER -- MASTURBATION AND 7th STREET MARKET, PENNING SOMEONE UP AGAINST THE WALL AND THREATENING THEM, WHY WASN'T AN ARREST MADE FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THAT SITUATION? >> THE ELEMENTS, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, IN FACT, WHEN I SAY PEN -- I NEVER SAY PENNED BUT CORNERED SOMEBODY, IN AN AGGRESSIVE WAY. WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT SUBJECT A SHORT TIME LATER WHO ASSAULTED SOMEONE UNRELATED TO THAT OFFENSE, BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT CLEARLY, IT WAS VISIBLE WHAT HE WAS DOING, HOWEVER, IT DID NOT MEET THE ELEMENTS TO WARRANT A CRIMINAL CHARGE. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: IT DOESN'T VIOLATE STATE LAW, THE STATE LAW -- YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOOLS IN THE STATE LAW THAT ALLOWED YOU TO PROTECT THAT PERSON BY ARRESTING THIS OFFENDER, IT'S NOT LEGAL BY STATE LAW. >> AGAIN, THAT BEHAVIOR DID NOT MEET THE ELEMENTS FOR ANY STATE LAW OR ORDINANCE THAT WE COULD CHARGE. >>BRAXTON WINSTON: THANK YOU. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM IS IN THE CUE. >>MALCOLM GRAHAM: I AGREE WITH THE VICE-CHAIR WOMAN, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD ADVANCE THE THREE ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY STAFF, MEMBERS OF UPTOWN COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WAITING SINCE APRIL, FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF PROACTIVE ACTION, IT DOES NOT DIMINISH THE FACT, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS GOING BACK TO TENT CITY, TO THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOR THE HOMELESS, THAT WE'VE APPROVED AND ARE BEING BUILT. THE MENS AND THE WOMEN'S SIDE. ETCETERA ETCETERA. A LOT OF WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. A LOT OF THESE ANSWERS OR QUESTIONS ARE EMBEDDED IN THE HOME FOR ALL REPORT THAT UNITED WAY HAS, THEY HAVE THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ACTION, AND I THINK THAT THE ANSWERS IS ALREADY IN THE BOOK. WE'VE DONE THE WORK. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON HAD ONE FOLLOWUP. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE COMMITTEE IS POISED FOR AN ACTION. >>DANTE ANDERSON: THANK YOU, VERY QUICK. ECHOING WHAT MR. GRAHAM SAID, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUT ALSO, I MYSELF WAS PRESENT AT THE LISTENING SESSION, OVER 90 MEMBERS WERE THERE, WE FLOATED THE THREE OF US FLOATED THROUGH ALL OF THOSE TABLES. AND THERE WAS -- IT WAS CLEARLY STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT THE REASON THAT THEY ARE NOT REPORTING OR CALLING THE POLICE IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM THE CITIZENS ON. IN THE UPTOWN AREA. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: I WILL ADD THAT SOUTH END RESIDENTS ECHO THAT SAME SENTIMENT, SO. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >>TARIQ BOKHARI: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, CMPD WITH THE SUPPORT OF CHARLOTTE STAFF DOES TWO THINGS. ONE, CRAFT US A COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL OF THE ORDINANCES YOU FEEL BASED ON TODAY'S CONVERSATION, WOULD ENABLE YOU IN YOUR OWN WORDS TO HAVE THE TEETH NECESSARY TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO AND WITH YOUR EXPLANATION OF THAT FOR THIS BODY TO DISCUSS. AND TWO, TO PROVIDE AS MUCH OF THE HISTORICAL DATA AND ANALYSIS THAT BOTH WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON, ON WHAT HAPPENED IN 2022, AS WELL AS SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE POSSIBLE IN THAT TIME FROM MAYOR PRO TEM WINSTON, ON SOME OF THE REAL POTENTIAL UNDERLYING FACTORS. >> SECOND. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? BRIEFLY, COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONLY AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THE TIME. ALL RIGHT. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >>VICTORIA WATLINGTON: IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE, AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. [ MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:33 ]