All right. I now declare the Plano City Council is convened in open session. That all council members are present. The council will now recess into executive session in Training Room A to hold a closed executive meeting pursuant to the provisions of Vernon's Texas Codes Annotated Government Code, chapter 551, the Open Meetings Act in accordance with the authority contained in section 551 o 71 to consult with the attorney, receive legal advice, and discuss litigation. Section five 5187 to discuss economic development matters and section 550, 174 to discuss personnel matters. Thank you. I now declare the Plano City Council is reconvened in open session that all council members are present. We'll begin tonight's regular meeting with the invocation led by Pastor Lisa Debusk with Chase Oaks Church, Legacy Campus and the Pledge of Allegiance and Texas Pledge, led by troop 416 charter organization, Preston Meadow Lutheran Church. Would you all please rise? Would you bow your heads with me, please? Dear God, thank you for these men and women who serve the people of Plano. May your Holy Spirit reside within each of them as they listen to and act upon items that are needed to improve the life here, we humbly ask this in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you. Salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God, one and indivisible. Thank you. Be seated. Come here, come here. Come on up. Come here. All at once. All right, I want I want to thank you guys for doing that. Thank you. And here's here's our little. Thank you. Sure. Stay with me because we're going to take a picture. Come here. Come on. There you go. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you guys. Thank you. It's great to. All right. Welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. Okay. Are we all good? Nope. Nope. Okay. You guys, y'all are so shy. Okay, let's turn around. Face that way. Come back here with me. Come here, come here. You guys are doing great. Now we're going to take a picture, okay? You tall guys, get back here with me. Are they too far out? Come on. Why don't y'all let me send you? You guys come back here. You see all those tall y'all can see over them right here? Something. Perfect. All right. One, two three. One. Two. Three. One. Two. Three. One. Two. Three. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Okay. Now it's my honor to be able to. Present the oath of office for so many of our citizens that are on the boards and commissions and do such an amazing work for the city of Plano, because without you, there's a lot of decision making that we would have to do without the proper research that you guys do on a daily basis. So when I call your name, I'm going to ask the members in attendance to come up when I call your name and we'll I'll give you the oath of office all together that are here. So at the Animal Shelter Advisory Committee, Michael Higgins and John Sullivan, board of Adjustment, Connor Barron, Karen Bellezza, Jose Figueroa, mansoor Karimi, Michael Perich. Building standards commission Justin Adcock. L Cole, John Gallagher, Mark Malouf and Robert Thomas. Civil service commission William Allen Rhodes, community relations commission Priscilla and Brown, Richard Grady, Magesh Kenda, Deval, Susan Swan. Smith, Sumita. Marvelli chin with the Cultural Arts Commission. Mava Lee chin, Diane. Goble, Sherrie. Levine, Johnny Singh, and Sander Wolf with the Heritage Commission Debbie Barrios, Scott Goble, Mindy Mendez, and Cory Riniker. Library Advisory Board Laura Chi Gill, Eric Lewis, and Tom McConkey, junior. Lois for Parks and Recreation Planning Board Lois Mansfield, Steven McGill, Tammy Pelican, Mark Ferris, and Kristen Riniker. Planning and Zoning Commission Michael Bronski, Towson Ollie. Bennett. Ratliff, and Tony Lee Tong. Plano Housing Authority Monica Coleman, Michael kissed James Tucker. Retirement security plan committee Abby Owens, Karen. Rhodes, Whitley. Kale. Sears, senior advisory board William Case, Heather Jones, Thompson, and Faryal Virk. Tax increment financing reinvestment zones two and three boards Robert DeVries, Terry Luna Harris, Nathan Henderson, Liz Lansing, Angelique May, and Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone number five board Mashood Bukhari, Doug Binder, Janine Cadena, Ted Hong, Devin House, and Douglas Reese. Okay, great. Thank you all so much for being here. We appreciate it. I am I'm going to come around. I've lost my my handheld mic. But we'll we'll work it out. So if you'll raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will faithfully execute the duties of the boards and commissions of the City of Plano, State of Texas, and will to the best of your ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States and of this state, and the charter and ordinances of this city. And you furthermore solemnly swear that you have not directly or indirectly paid, offered, or promised to pay, contributed, nor promised to contribute any money or valuable thing, or promised any public office or employment as a reward to secure your appointment. So help you God. So thank you so much. Thank you for let's all give him a hand. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you all for for being here. And thank you for serving on our boards and commissions. Okay. Comments of public interest. Comments of public interest. This portion of the meeting is to allow up to three minutes per speaker, with 30 total minutes on items of interest or concern, and not on items that are on the current agenda. The council may not discuss these items, but may respond with factual or policy information. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda. And our first speaker tonight is Ivy Shong. Good evening. And dear Honorable Mayor, City Council members and city management team, and thank you for giving me this up to three minutes so that as City of Plano resident, I could raise the attention regarding the issue and concern that I have encountered on discrimination and violation of City of Plano Equal Rights Ordinance triggered by an arbitrary business decision made by the property management for the apartment complex I lived in, it seems like a small thing on parking. However, as a City of Plano resident, it will be disappointed to see discrimination, behavior and violation of city ordinance can be allowed within the City of Plano jurisdiction. As a taxpayer, I'll be disappointed to see civil rights protected by the US Constitution and Texas Constitution can be damaged by discrimination within our community, which I believe this issue and concern can be for broader and more serious discussion. Since civil rights protected by the Constitution and violation of city ordinance are serious issue and concern that deserve more than three minutes. Regardless, that was triggered by small things or not. As the City of Plano resident, I hope with your support and help this issue and concern can be resolved resolved soon and under your leadership, the excellent of City of Plano will be elevated to the next level. And any behavior like discrimination and violation of ordinance can be stopped in our community. And the resolution decision regarding this issue and concern will be made for better community for our current residents here today. Future resident and generation with wisdom, courage and good faith. And it takes a lot of people and effort to make our community better. And for this legacy. And it's sad and discouraging to see some bad apple and which we can do something to stop that. And thank you for your time consideration. Thank you. Our next speaker is Sunita Ahuja. She on zoom? She's not on zoom. Oh, so she's not. Well, if she comes comes back in the next few minutes, we'll we'll move on to the next speaker. So our next speaker after that is Crystal Curry. Hello. I am Crystal Curry and I've been here before. So good evening Mayor Muns and other distinguished members of the City Council. In the interest of time and the allotted three minutes, I have passed out a document which, as indicated, you see on your screen is a page. One is just a just a title page. And it just is. It gives it my name and just the the overview of citizen impact. Excuse me. I'm really nervous. All right. And so page page two of this, this document is, is just an overview of myself. It's just a picture. It gives some background information about who I am and a little bit about me. But what I want to hurry and do is to focus your attention on page three of this document, which is a citizen impact summary. And it just really goes into detail about why I'm asking the city Council to be involved and to help me. There's three areas of main concern. The one is it's multi-jurisdictional meaning that it spans multiple geographical areas and locations across the United States, including the great state of Texas. And number second item is it's highly complex. It involves my medical history and also health and technology in the public at large. And then the third is a generational impact. So those are the three primary areas of concern. And the reason why I'm engaging the city council to help me with it. All right. And then the next page goes into a little bit more detail about the medical background and the technology. It tells you how when I first got up here, I told you that there was a wire, but it's a little bit more sophisticated than that. And this page gives you a lot more detail. I encourage you to read it. I'm not going to go through it in this meeting. I just don't have enough time to do that. The next page is the biological impacts. I won't go through that either in the interest of time. After that, it describes the public impact, what that is, who the members of the public are and what has been involved in it. All right. And then the final page, the next page I want to talk about is just the government ask and why I'm requesting the government to intervene and help me with this solution. With this issue. It's unprecedented in the United States, and it's a violation of my constitutional rights. So the ask is on there. You can review it as well at your time. And then finally, there's my contact information, which is on the next page, my email address and phone number in case there are any questions. And then finally I want to end it with the last page. Please pay attention to this page because it answers directly. How Plano can help can help by escalating this this issue for me. There are other areas of of of help that you can give through Neighborhood Services, Plano Library System and Texas Workforce Commission. And I'm available to answer any specific questions that you have with regards to it. But this document I put together to kind of give you just an overview of, you know what? Why? You know why. I'm asking for the escalation process and why I'm engaging you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. So Nina is on zoom now. There you. Does she come back? Hold on. Bob. Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, ma'am. Can you turn on your video? There you go. So I don't know what happened earlier. Get back to you. So I had a concern about Plano Aerobat. That is shutting down in the middle of the year. So I raised this request through email to postpone the closure of Plano aero beds till May so that kids can do their session. Because right now, we were told just during the beginning of this week that it is going to be shut down, all, you know, abruptly, and we have no other place to take our girls because all the teams are already formed. So this was a concern from all the parents of the gymnasts as well as coaches, that we did not get enough time to look for other options. And kids are ready with their, you know, with their competition season. Everybody is ready. They practiced a lot. So please take this into consideration that closure time should be postponed. Either it would have been in the beginning of the session, or it should be during the end of the session, and if it is because of lack of insufficient funds. So as parents, we are all ready to contribute for, you know, whatever capacity we can. So we would like to have this session going on until the month of May. If that request can be considered, it would be great. Yeah. That's all. Thank you. Okay, our next speaker is Bob Pinnell. Good evening once again, Mr. Mayor and council people, and thank you for this opportunity and especially for the senior city council staff and city staff. For the record, I am Bob Pinnell. I'm a 45 year resident of Plano, Texas, residing at 3209 Winchester Drive on the west side of Plano. I am also a member and past Master of Plano Lodge Number 768, and a current director of its North Texas Masonic Historical Museum and Library. And my purpose here tonight is to thank you, Mr. Mayor, and the council and the city staff, because we celebrated last Saturday evening 100 years occupancy of Plano Lodge, known as the Moore House. Plano Lodge, a historic building over 129 years old. And we have been in that building for over 100 years, only surpassed by our contribution, we hope, to the city of Plano, the settlement and the cosmopolitan city you are today, which which represents 158 years. Having said that, the Moore House, Plano Lodge, is in fact a designated City of Plano landmark and heritage resource. And in 2017, it was listed in your National Park Service application to register the Plano Downtown Historic District. It was noted as a historic and contributing building. Last Saturday evening was a great gala event and we were blessed, Mr. Mayor, with the city proclamation. Your kind words and not only orally given, but in writing. And we were also blessed because we had joining us in feast and Fellowship Council. Lady Downs and Councilman Horn and a few other of the commissioners were there also. It was a joyous evening. Thank you for devoting your precious time to come visit with us last Saturday evening, and thank you especially for all the support. Not only the city, but its commissioners and the city staff have given us. You've made being a plain old Mason and Plano, Texas, a simple Masonic pun there. Enjoyable and more important possible. Have a great evening and we hope to see you at the 150th. Thank you very much. Thank you Bob. Our next speaker is Alexander Stein. Then our next speaker is Vineet Ahuja. That's everybody. Okay. All right. Let's move on to the consent agenda. Yeah okay. Yeah. The consent agenda, the consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion and contains items which are routine and typically noncontroversial. Items may be removed from this agenda for individual consideration by council member, the city manager or any citizen. The presiding officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests. Okay. We have do I have a motion? Motion to approve the consent agenda except for item. Oh thank you. Second. All right. Thank you. I have a motion a second to approve the consent agenda, with the exception of item oh. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. You'll read item O, please. Item O, to amend section 1273 D, same specific zones of article four. Speed of chapter 12 motor Vehicles and traffic of the City of Plano. Code of ordinances to establish school zones on Hedgecoe Road and Preston Meadow Drive within the city limits of the City of Plano and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. My name is Brian, Transportation Engineering Manager, and I'm here to address any questions you might have on this item. Okay. Council Member Kerr. Mr. Thanks for being here. I've had a few residents reach out to me about the school there, and the school zone is something they certainly have asked for. There's also been concern about parents parking on side streets and then walking or carrying their kids sort of anywhere within the street on Preston Meadow. And we also have seen parents parking at Heritage Yards, walking their kids to school then. And while that's absolutely fine, it's off Preston Meadow. What happens when those gates are locked? What happens to those number of cars that are parking there? So I think the concern is great. We're addressing the speed. But what about people who are walking in the middle of the street and perhaps impeding traffic? One last thing we've noticed. I live in that neighborhood, and I noticed that on Preston Meadow, the cars will back up so long they actually back up all the way to McDermott. And so it's difficult to cross into the side streets, the perpendicular streets. All right. So let me let me address the last part first which is the queuing. Hold on one second. We got we we can address adding something additional that's not on here. We can we can add that to the future agenda item. But but we we just need to be specific about this request on the consent. So I'm just I'm just staying legal. So the item right now is just the school zone creation. That's but thanks for clarifying that. We can we can definitely. If you would like add additional safety measures I'll go ahead and get through this and then go ahead and and request that. Thank you. Well yes. So several several of the citizens, several of the parents requested school zones. The school actually requested school zone. Also. We analyzed it. We evaluated we looked at the traffic volumes. We looked at the speeds there. We looked at pedestrian volumes and school zones were warranted on Preston Meadow from from Hedgcoxe North and then also on Preston, I'm sorry, on Hedgcoxe on either side of Preston Meadow. So we basically are bringing that item to council for approval. We've actually assuming that the council does approve. We've got the work orders already prepared for public works to install the school zones, which will reduce the reduce the speeds. Very good. Thanks for clarifying that. And I'm all in favor of the school zones. Okay. Is that a motion? Yes. I'd like to move that that the council accept item O as written. Mayor. I'll second the motion. Oh. Excuse me. We do. Thank you, sir, we do have a speaker, Pam Cobb. I apologize. On this item. Yeah. Thank you. Good evening for your patience. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you, Bob Kerr. You directed me to come, so I do live across the street from the School of Plano. And I am retired. And so Monday through Friday looks like every Saturday to me, except since the school is opened, I dread Monday through Friday because I have a circular driveway that looks like an HEB parking lot. It is unbelievable. They go down my street, make a U-turn. If somebody else is already using my driveway to go the other direction, they park in front of the mailboxes so it dismissal. The mail carrier must get out of her truck at every mailbox for three of the streets. That is above and beyond what a mail carrier needs to do to deliver the mail, because they block the mailboxes during the heat of the summer. At the beginning of school, they get out of their car and stand in our neighborhood on our grass, under our trees because it's a little bit cooler. I just don't see how a school of 1300 students should affect our neighborhood like that. If I was selling a house today, I would hate to be in that position to have anyone drive by and go, oh, I don't think so. That devalues our property in Stonehaven. So I would like to see someone out there figuring out what the cue line has to be. I have made seven contacts to the school with no response. They don't want to hear about it. All she wants to do is out there flagging traffic. You've got citizens directing traffic. At one point, parents were out there holding signs to park at Heritage Park. Who's in control here? No one. And that's the problem. Everyone's just parking at will and doing the four lane dash and doing U-turns in the middle of the street as well. It's just a hot mess Monday through Friday, with no regard to the neighbors that the church never had this situation yet. School? Yes. Learning curve? Yes. But now we're in to school. We're at the first quarter and we've learned a behavior that anything goes in our neighborhood. I'm so I hope for your help. Thank you, thank you. Okay. I have a motion a second to approve item o. I haven't done that yet. No. Yeah. Councilmember downs. The second, so please vote. So motion passes 8 to 0. And Council member Karen if if you want to. Maybe maybe more than what you were suggesting. Maybe we need to look at look at the core of the the issue here. Councilman Kerr, I'll get with you after this meeting. We'll get an if a forum going, and I'm sure that there's plenty to fill in on that. I'm happy to fill. Understood. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you all. All right. Let's move on to. Items for individual consideration. That one public hearing items. Applicants are limited to 15 minutes presentation. And speakers are limited to 30 total minutes of testimony time with three minutes assigned per speaker. The presiding officer may amend these times as deemed necessary. Nonpublic hearing items. The presiding officer will permit public comment for items on the agenda not posted for a public hearing. The presiding Officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests, length of the agenda and to insure meeting efficiency, and may include a cumulative time limit. Speakers will be called in the order. Requests are received until the cumulative time is exhausted, and item number one is public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2020 5-9 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City Ordinance Number 2015, five two as heretofore amended, rezoning 4.5 acres of land located on the south side of State Highway 121 1335ft west of Coyote Road in the city of Plano, Collin County, Texas. From regional employment to regional commercial directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the city and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. All right. Good evening, Mayor and Council. I am Christina Day, the director of planning, here to present this zoning case to you. It is a request to amend 4.5 acres along 121 from the regional commercial zoning district to, I'm sorry, the regional zoning district to add to the regional commercial zoning district. It is currently developed, as you can see on the aerial photograph, as part of a shopping center. And is that is why the request is before you this evening. So there is a history for this property. It has been zoned as well as land along the entire 121 corridor. Back in 2550 acres along this entire corridor was rezoned with a pattern of regional, commercial and regional employment with nodes of the commercial zoning at intersections. Generally speaking, to create a consistent zoning pattern in this corridor. In 2016, this shopping center began the development process and as you can see between the line between the green and the red on the screen, there was sort of a curve that didn't fit neatly with a development pattern. So a request was made to rezone and align based on the lot pattern at the time, and the zoning was approved to add 2.4 acres to the commercial area to align with the lots. Then in 2021, a request was brought forward to rezone the additional 4.5 acres that were in the regional employment zoning that would encompass the entire center, and that was denied by the Planning and Zoning Commission, was not appealed to the City Council. And so that same request is has been through the Planning and Zoning Commission and is there was no recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission. And so that moves forward to the Council for consideration this evening. So this is a concept plan that shows the proposal with development both with a lot along 121 and then another development next to the Kroger building on the rear of the site. So a comparison of the districts. These districts are very close in nature. The development standards are very similar. The primary difference is the uses. So the uses are there are some uses that are allowed in RC by writer, by SDP that are not, that are prohibited in regional employment. Those include car wash, retail and shopping center uses. Restaurant uses in excess of 10% are prohibited in regional employment. Building materials sales, indoor vehicle part sales. Small engine repair, vehicle repair, vehicle leasing, and renting. Those are the type of uses that would be allowed with this zoning change that are not allowed today. So conformance with the comprehensive plan, because the standards of development are similar, it meets the priorities on the land use map and the dashboards. The real issue here is a use issue with regard to redevelopment of the transportation corridors, retail shopping center policy, our land use policies regarding retail action, because the city has a long standing policy related to underperforming retail centers, the addition of retail is really the issue at hand. And what what you're being asked to decide. So this is a slide that just gives a little detail about these policies, how we want to create cohesive developments, how we want to reinvest, revitalize and redevelop underperforming neighborhood retail corners and incentivize redevelopment and revitalization of underperforming retail. So consistent policy guidance, the policy level. So you can see the there was a Kroger on the east side of Kuwait that has been developed into a much larger, nicer Kroger on the west side of Kuwait. So a large new shopping center. And so you can see there's quite a bit of development here now. And so we're really just the question is whether you want to expand and allow those additional uses on the subject property. That is kind of in the light gray or white on the left side of the screen in the aerial. So with regard to feedback, the adjacent property owner to the west is in support. We have one homeowner to the south that's neutral. And three letters of opposition from homeowners to the south. Then with overall feedback that we've received from the community, we have one in support, one neutral and five total in opposition because we have two additional responses from the community. So as I mentioned earlier, this was a split vote at the Planning and Zoning Commission. There were two motions made. They both failed, one in support, one in opposition. So it's moved forward to you with no recommendation because of that kind of deadlock vote at the Planning and Zoning Commission. So that concludes my presentation. I'm available for questions you might have about this request. And the applicant is here and does have a presentation. Okay. All right. All right. Councilmember Horn yes. Thank you, Christine, for the great presentation. I appreciate the hard work that you did with this. I do have a couple of questions on when we look at now, my understanding from the last PNC meeting, this did not fail. It just didn't it didn't pass. It was just no recommendation to the council. That is correct. Okay. With that. Do we just have a simple majority to approve. Is that correct? It would just be a simple majority to approve. So the second part was on slide 37. And I just need a little I need some clarification here on slide 37 if you can. We talk about redevelopment and revitalization. But really this area is greenfield construction. I mean I know that it's been graded because a 121, but is that still considered redevelopment because you put it almost in the same category as what we have on some of our tired neighborhood corners. And I kind of from a conceptual perspective, I disagree with that. I just think it's new development and and I don't see it being revitalization because, again, it's not a tired corner that we're working so hard to, to improve. I understand your point and the reason why the staff has looked at this, I think pretty consistently over the years when we're looking at adding retail zoning outside of a mixed use or redevelopment context, when we're looking at greenfield development, our policies have been consistently that we've tried to avoid adding additional retail development in the city. Greenfield development specifically, because we know the more retail that we've added, the harder it is for us to continue to redevelop, and the more that we have to invest in redeveloping older centers. So we've got the vacant Kroger across the street. We're continuing to have to reinvest public funds in in retail corners today. So the more that we have on the ground, whether it's it's new today, but it won't be new tomorrow. So we're just adding to that volume. And that's the long term concern. I get where you're coming from, but just from a definition it's not redevelopment. I understand where you're coming from with with the fact is the Kroger across the street or the building across the street was previously the Kroger. You know, they moved over to the new facility, which I visited this weekend. And the opportunity, well, the, the, the the products that they're in there, there's clothes in there. You can go to that Kroger and buy clothes. You couldn't do that in a regular Kroger store. So they're meeting a need for the surrounding neighborhood. It's a demand thing. And so who are we to kind of restrict that demand if it's there? They don't build markets where there's no demand. Yes. The question I have well, back to where we're at here, the parcel lines that we're seeing here, they were drawn in 2001 under the zoning atlas. Is that correct? When we looked at where you had it from RC to re, the original line here, that that red line there, the edge of the red is what was where the line existed in 2000, 2000. Was it part of the zoning atlas? Is what that was part of the zoning atlas. And so when the shopping center came in for its initial development, the line was changed to the where it is today. Was that cut out off of 121 that turn in? Was that present in 2001? Do we know I don't know if it was present in 2001. It was present in 2016 when the shopping center developed. All right. Thank you. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem, do you have a question? I do, I have a question about. I didn't quite understand. When you show the slide about the difference between regional employment and regional commercial, it seems like it's pretty similar. So at this point, the the use that the current developer is, is planning on it does not go over beyond the regional. Employment is am I it's it's the ability to add different uses to the site. So in other words they want more flexibility. They want more flexibility on the land use side. Why? I mean at this point there are aren't they just developing it into like additional parking lot? I think that's what they were saying. There's two buildings. There's a building on the 121 frontage and then a building towards adjacent to the Kroger. And so those buildings, I would think this is a great question for them, but they yeah, it gives them more opportunities to build things like restaurants, more retail. Right now, that's limited to 10% of the overall use in the regional employment district, which obviously doesn't give them much opportunity there. So and then the vehicle uses the uses that I listed earlier, which I'd be glad to go through again, if you'd like to hear those. No that's fine. I think my follow up question is then, is the P and Z divided? Because because of the specific question I just asked, I think what I heard from PNC was just the there were some people that thought that this was important, that it was a significant change, and there were some people that felt like it was not a significant change in land use. And I think from what I heard, that's what it boiled down to, is, do you think this 4.5 acres is a significant change in land use to the community or not? Thank you so much, Deputy Mayor. I really appreciated hearing the discussion that PNC had and made excellent cases and kind of debated every, every direction of it. And it really helped me know where, where, where I sat on, on it. But then I do have some additional questions. So there were five in opposition and there's three letters of opposition. I assume that's only because they're within that that close proximity. And that's the reason we have letters. That's right. And one cites a concern about security is that is is typically commercial, regional commercial less safe than regional employment? I'm not sure. I think there I don't know why there would be a security concern. There should be similar protections. You see, the regional employment is is adjacent to the neighborhood. So I just want to make sure I wasn't missing something there. There was one note about a. We would it'd be okay if a privacy wall was installed and it I drove by there. It looked like there was a privacy wall or I mean, that's kind of how that that division was right. It there will be the same standards of adjacency standards between the RC and Re district and the adjacent neighborhood. So that's not going to change if the zoning changes. Okay. And then lastly under SB 840, if that were to be commercial, it would allow for for. Multifamily housing. But that's not possible in that strip. It's too small to allow for something. Is that correct? It. I mean, it is part of the shopping center. I'm trying to remember if RB and RC have different standards under, I would have to look that up to see if those standards are different under the changed ordinance, because I do feel like that would be not an appropriate place to to write housing there. So if that's that's something that I think would be important to know. Certainly I think it's part of the shopping center today. The way it's developing. But so but I think under 840, you can develop it as housing under both district. It's just whether it's what are your the city's restrictions under employment, regional employment. It could be under regional employment or regional commercial. You could do housing either way. Well and in that case I want to hear the the presentation. But I don't really see any reason to to deny the request. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Christina. I'll open the public hearing. I think we have. The applicant. Yeah, we have the three applicants, Michael Doggett, Jackie Wolpert, and Robert. Whatever. Order you want to go in. So, Michael, Jackie and Robert. Moms council members, I really. My name is Robert dorsal from 7001 Preston Road in Dallas, Texas. And I'm the owner of UCD. And I'm not going to do the presentation. I'm going to let the staff do the heavy lifting on that. But I wanted to just go ahead and just come up and just tell you guys how excited we are that we got this shopping center done. We appreciate you all. Considering the zoning change. We bought the property in 2016. Thinking that it was going to move forward pretty quickly, actually had site planning done, and then things got put on hold because of Amazon and some things in the shopping center world. And so, you know, all the grocery stores stopped for a while. Anyway, we got it open this year, and we've been getting some really great feedback from the community, from people in my, you know, contemporaries that I work with in the real estate community and have been very complimentary of what we've done. And so hopefully we've done a, you know, we've we've provided a center that that everybody can be proud of. The. I just wanted to say that there is a lot of staff members over the last 9 or 10 years that have helped us along the way, starting with Christina Day was involved in the very beginning. We've had a lot of conversations about zoning, I appreciate her presentation, and I just wrote down some names so I wouldn't forget. But Eric Hill, Mike Bell, Donald Sepulveda Salsameda and Patty Hoffer were very helpful with us and especially towards the end and getting our our CEO. We had some kind of some mix ups there at the end. They were always helpful and also with signage. Danny, Natalie to get our our final engineering final. And then I just want to say especially to Jack Carr, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I had to call Mr. Carr with a problem that and he would just send an email or just send it. And it was just like start getting, you know, worked out. And so anyway, I really appreciate everybody's help with it. And, and hopefully you all will enjoy the center. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hello. My name is Jackie Wolpert, 701 Preston Road, Dallas. So I'm just going to talk through some of the history. And again at the end I'm here to answer any questions that you have. So I'm actually going to start here. So back in 2016 we Kroger came to us and they said that they want to have a bigger store to provide additional offerings for the community. And they said that, you know, there's property across the street that would be great. And so we move forward with them and planned the development. And at the time, what is shown on the screen was the zoning, except the area in green was part of regional employment, not regional commercial. So one thing on this aerial. So this aerial was taken in 2016 and there is a curb cut, a texdot curb cut onto the service road at 121 that circled in red. And that curb cut existed at the time. There's another one over by QuikTrip and that one existed as well. But as far as just, you know, ease of shopping and making sure that you have great access for the people that are going to shop your center, we couldn't just rely on one curb cut over by QuikTrip to service the shopping center. And since there was another one located where it's shown here along 121, we, us and Kroger said that we needed to buy property up to that curb cut to ensure that we would have that access, because at the time, again, all these these curb cuts are under the jurisdiction of Texdot. And at the time, there was no guarantee that we were going to get another curb cut between the two that existed. So if the curb cut was a little to the east, maybe we would have only bought a little bit to the east and we wouldn't have bought all the way to the west, but that just wasn't the case. So we worked with the staff, and the reason for the jog in the property line is because that is, that aligns with the Kroger property line, because if we didn't rezone the area in green, then Kroger's property would have had split zoning, which they weren't okay with. And I think the staff agreed that it didn't make sense for split zoning on one property line under one property line. So we agreed to or staff and everyone agreed to go forward with the zoning just for that portion in 2021. Obviously, like Robert had noted, everything got put on hold for a while in 2021, Kroger said. We're ready to go to kick off this project again, and we revisited the rezoning, but we weren't under construction at the time. We didn't have a full path of what we were going to do, and it did get denied at PNC, and we decided that we weren't going to push it forward to council, and we would just come back at a later date when we knew what we were going to have built there. So fast forward to today. That's where we are. So going back to the previous slide. So the Kroger store is open and we have a retail building that's the L-shaped retail just to the east of Kroger. That retail building is 100% leased. There's not a space available in it. Some of the tenants haven't opened yet, but they're either building out or we just signed the lease within the past month or so. So they're still working through their plans with the city. South of that retail building is another retail building where it says Outlot ten. Again, that retail building is 100% leased. We have no space. We moved forward on the retail building that is to the west of Kroger, and we built that with the hopes that we would get regional employment tenants that would want to go in there. And unfortunately, that's just not the case. We have a building that's almost completely ready to be delivered to tenants, and we don't have a lease signed yet because the tenants that are interested in in this building and that want to be in the center fall under the regional commercial zoning, not under the regional employment zoning. And the reason for that is because they're more retail restaurant use tenants, not employment based tenants. So again, the retail, the building to the west of Kroger, that's in the blue area under regional employment. That building is built. The parking lot in front of that is built. And then we have the pad, which is to the west of the McDonald's. And that pad has to be because the Plano requirements for pads that you can, you have to you can only have one pad or one building on a pad under 5000ft■S for every five acres. So all of our all the tenants that you see along 121 and the Chipotle on Coit Road, those all fill up, those five that were allowed. So whatever goes on that, that excess pad that we have in the blue along the frontage road, that has to be greater than 5000ft■!S. So our plan is to alo build a retail building there. It's going to be probably 6000ft■!S and it's going to be a two tenant building. We have a bank that's interested in taking just over half of that. And a bank actually is allowed in regional employment. But the people that want to be on the other side of the building all fall under regional commercial, because they're more retail restaurant type uses. So that's the plan for the property. And again, I'm here if you have any questions. Okay. Do you. Do you want. Oh no no I think he's done. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Council member Lavon, do you have a question? I do the property that you're talking about. That would be just to the west of the McDonald's. That in the regional employment area. And the reason we have a regional employment zoning is to encourage offices and such that would, in fact, lead to more employment here in Plano. Could you see building a multi-story office building that would be attractive to an office tenant of some sort, as opposed to, you know, the bank, which would be a possibly a single story type situation? It's only like, I think a little less than two acres. So our intent would just to keep it like shopping center type uses. I don't think a multi-story office building is something that we would prefer to do on that, on that property. It would also block visibility to the tenants, especially in the retail building that we're almost done building to the west of Kroger. And we would like to make sure that they're able to be seen, at least from the service road as well. And and if you were to build an office building there, you had would you have different requirement in terms of parking and such? Yeah, yeah. I don't think we could accommodate the parking that would be required just on that lot. Okay. So so basically what you're saying is the desired and perhaps appropriate use for that lot is in fact a single story, possibly a bank. Possibly restaurant that wouldn't necessarily have a drive through or or such in that particular area because of the, the size of the, the available lot. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what restaurant you specifically. I mean, some of them like to have like pickup windows and stuff, but I would say that it would be a retail building with at least two tenants of those uses. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Any other speakers? All right. I'll close the public hearing, confine the comments to the council. Well, I. I'll, I'll go next. Council member Horne thank you. We have seen this kind of messy split zoning dilemma before. There was a case just a quickly educate our newer council members back in zoning case 2024 005, where the zoning parcel actually split a building. Okay. And the petitioner came to us back when we were back at the Davis Library. Fun times then that he was just trying to change it from regional employment to regional commercial. It was during those presentations that staff told us that the the RC re boundary lines were not a significant consideration when the lines were drawn in the 2001 Atlas, the zoning atlas. But it was really the more concern was the residential aspect behind the Kroger's behind that area. Also during that 20 2024 zoning meeting, staff presented slide number 32 that showed the current subject area. This case here highlighted in blue as this is the quote as it was in the highlighted area, 26 acres of retail shopping center under construction by right. It was in that shaded area that the shaded area went to the turn in from 121. It included this question, this question area here. This particular case was split three three leading to. Reason. I'm I'm going back. No I was worried your mic wasn't on. But it is. It's on okay. And some during the PNC meetings it was there was a question about retail creep is what they were. That was the term that was used several times. And that Plano had excess retail. I would agree that we have some areas in town that is excess in retired corners, but demand shows that this center here, there was the parking lots full. And it's, you know, our friends to the north are coming in and spending in our neighborhood. And the neighborhood to the south is spending. So I think it's almost a moot point. Demand will drive the retail growth. The four acres itself is really too small to turn into a regional employment, unless it's something that was really unique there. It's in my opinion that the South turn from the Sam Rayburn Tollway along the western portion of the subject property leads to a natural boundary between RC and Re. It just does. And so it's my recommendation that we will turn we'll turn that into a boundary. Let that be the the the boundary between RC and RA, and allow the petitioner to use the four acres for commercial purposes. All right. Thank you. Deputy Mayor Pro Tem, is that a motion or was it a motion? Oh, I'll I'll make a motion to approve. I agree with with what Councilmember Horne said. And like I said, I was we have an excellent planning and zoning commission, and they had great discussion when I went back and watched that. And while their decision was split, I felt that those that voted in favor, the arguments that they made, it just seems like it makes sense. So I'm in favor and I'll make a motion to approve. Hold on, I got you. Okay, I second the motion, please. Okay. All. You okay? Rick, are you okay? All right, so we have a motion, a second to approve. Item number one, please vote. Motion passes 7 to 1. Okay. Next item, item two. Item number two. Public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in zoning case 2025 Dash 11 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City Ordinance Number 2015, five two as heretofore amended, to amend the Urban Mixed Use two district on 86.2 acres located on the west side of Coyote Road, 970ft north of Mapleshade Lane, and within the 190 Tollway Plano Parkway and Expressway Corridor overlay districts to add veterinary clinic as a permitted use on blocks A and B of the development plan, and providing a penalty clause or repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. All right, so in case 11 is related to the urban mixed use two zoning district, which is again located also on Kuwait, we have a theme here this evening on the west side of Kuwait, north of Mapleshade Lane, though on the in the southern part of town. So this is a request just to add a single use to this zoning district. The retail portion of this zoning district is all along Coyote Road and Block A and block B. That's why these areas are singled out. And so they the owner does have a request from a tenant. And so we looked at this and found that it is consistent with other zoning districts to allow veterinary clinic within these areas. And so block A is currently complete. But block B is under construction. And so this would allow them to lease that space to a veterinary clinic. So again we find it's it's appropriate in retail settings. Again veterinary clinic is permitted in central business. One like legacy business parks kind of core mixed use area and downtown Plano. So outdoor kennels would remain prohibited, which we think would be a nuisance. That might be something that would cause a problem for a mixed use setting. So again, a simple change just to allow the veterinary clinic as it allowed use in these two areas on the plan, it would meet the comprehensive plan. We have one letter from support from an adjacent property owner and overall three letters of support. No letters, neutral or opposition from the community. Recommended 6 to 0 by the Planning and Zoning Commission. And I'm available for questions you might have. All right. Thank you. Christina, any questions for Christina? Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'll open the public hearing. Do you have any speakers? All right. I'll close the public hearing, confine the comments to the council. Mr. mayor, I move. We accept the amendment as written. I'll second that. Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve agenda item number two. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Thank you. Next item. Item number three. Public hearing and consideration of an ordinance to amend. Section 20 1-2. Same charges of article one. In general of chapter 21 utilities of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Plano. To modify the fees for residential and nonresidential customers of Municipal Drainage Utility System. Providing a severability clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Good evening. Karen Rhodes Whitley, budget director. This is the first public hearing regarding the municipal drainage rates. We had. Discussion regarding the rate increases over the summer. They were adopted during the. Recommended budget. In the adoption of the budget. The revenues are already in there. We had to go in the paper. We had to produce the actual ordinance three times in a row, and we have done that. So tonight is the first public hearing. We will have a second public hearing on October 27th, and then we'll bring before you passage of the actual rates. They are to go into effect on November 1st. The residential is to go up $1.50 a month. And then for non residential or commercial, it's a 0.028 cent increase, going from 0.115 to 0.143 per 100ft■!S of impervious area. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any questions for Karen? All right. I'll open the public hearing. Any speakers? I'll close the public hearing. Find the comments of the council. Councilmember horn. Mr. mayor, I make a move that we approve agenda item number three. This is only a public hearing. Public hearing? We don't have to approve it. I'll be back. October 27th. All right. Well, thank you very much. Let's move to item four. Item number four, consideration of a resolution to find that Oncor Electric Delivery Company LLC's application to change rates within the city should be denied finding that the city's reasonable rate case expenses shall be reimbursed by the company. Finding that the meeting at which this resolution is passed is open to the public, as required by law, requiring notice of this resolution to the company and legal counsel for the Steering Committee of cities served by Oncor and providing an effective date. Good evening, Mayor and Council Andrew Fortune. Policy and government relations. Encore is requesting an $830 million increase. This represents a 13% increase within that, actually a 51% increase to the maintenance and upkeep of street lights. An extraordinary increase. And it's one that normally we have this routinely on the consent agenda, but we felt it important to pull for both your review and so the public could hear about this increase. Now, should you choose to deny this this evening, we'll move forward with our coalition of cities and law firm to to negotiate and hopefully engage in a case that will lower those rates. But again, I wanted to highlight this for your attention as we, our residents are seeing increased costs. This in particular is a staggering number. We do have a member of Oncor team here this evening if you want to ask specific questions. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Mayor and Council I would just add that this by by going forward with this resolution, this allows cities to kind of consolidate and work together, thus saving costs for both us and the company so that we basically have one review where all cities are participating. To be able to review these costs, make sure that they're reasonable and justified in the way that they're approached, in that that adds for a more efficient process for the Public Utility Commission. All right. We do need a vote for the resolution. Council member downs. No. Do we? This is not a no. We don't we don't have any public comment. So Council member downs mayor, I move to approve the resolution. I'll second that. Okay. So have a motion and a second to approve the resolution of denying. The rate change of Oncor. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Item number five. Item number five. Consideration of a resolution to nominate an individual for election to the Collin Central Appraisal District Board of Directors and providing an effective date. Okay. Once again, this is a resolution that we need to vote for. And let me let me see if I can help you guys out with some little information on the. On the Collin County. There, there were were these the two these are the two positions only or the two positions that. Oh, here we go. Okay, so the resolution for nominees of the Collin County Appraisal District in Denton County appraisal are on Monday's agenda. So for the Collin County Cadd, Plano ISD selected Doug Bender as a nominee. And for Denton, Chad Lewis will will do that in a minute. So though the Pisd selected Doug Bender as their nominee. Down here. We also have a Jerry. Tart, tart Tyleno and Brian Mansi. So these are. These are for the Collin County, which is what we're doing right now. These are these are the names that have been presented. So we need we need a motion a second regarding. The nominee. And just again, to remind you, Plano ISD selected Doug Bender. And then there's two other names down here. As well. What. Go ahead. Let me give it to you. My question is we nominate, but are they I mean, are they for sure going to be sitting on. No, we we just get a percentage of the overall vote in Collin County. So in other words, just because we nominate doesn't mean that that person will automatically get on the correct. It's a it's a cumulative vote all across Collin County from cities and and school districts. And I and this is the nomination process. So I would move I would be supportive. Whatever Pisd is nominating okay. If it helps any. We get 125 votes out of 2000 total votes. So thank you very much I appreciate that. Yeah, I will move that. We nominate Doug Bender for Collin County appointee or board of director. I'll I'll second that. Okay. So have a motion and second to nominate Doug Bender for the Collin County CAD. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Item. The next item would be for the Denton County CAD. And again I stopped. But Lewisville ISD selected an Parmacol and Mike Henefer as nominees. Again, I think Lisa told us that we could nominate two. Does that dilute that? Those nominees, not that 125 is going to, you know, put them over the top. But does that dilute those two people? Okay. So. The two names that Lewisville ISD nominated was an Parmacol and Mike Henefer. I will move that. We nominate those two people for Lewisville. Excuse me for Denton, Denton Central Appraisal District, who'd you aren't okay. And Mike Henefer and both. Okay. And just for your information, we get five votes in Denton County. Well, they can fight over them. So we can we can fight over those. I will second that. Okay. So I have a motion a second to nominate both anatomical and Mike Henefer as nominees in Denton County. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. With there being no further business. We're adjourned. Lisa McAllister, is this your first time flying solo? Congratulations. Great job tonight. A week ago Friday. So I'm almost done. Lisa. Yeah, yeah. Thousand cars. So we have standards in place that will we will do on all of our roadways.