TEST. >> I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT. SHELBY WILLIAMS WILL BE ON ZOOM. OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE BEING NON, OUR SECOND ITEM IS THE LISTENING TOUR REPORT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, I'M MIKE MALLORY WITH STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES, SGR, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS REPORT TO YOU ON THE LISTENING SESSION. I KNOW YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A REPORT, I WANT TO GO THROUGH SLIDE DECK AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR US. SO THE -- JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM. WE HAD 121 21 MEETINGS THAT WEE HELD DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. SOME WERE VIRTUAL AND SOME WERE IN PERSON. WE WOULD HAVE LIKE TO HAVE DONE ALL OF THEM IN PERSON OR MOST OF THEM IN PERSON, BUT CR KEPT THAT FROM BEING POSSIBLE. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT STEVEN AND ELIZABETH DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF PIVOTING WHEN THEY NEEDED TO, OF MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WAS PUT TOGETHER RIGHT, AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THEIR PRESENTATION, THEIR WORK ON IT, AND ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT AN AMAZING THING IT IS, INNOVATIVEWISE FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS, TO COME -- SETIMES PEOP THOUGHT THE LISTENING SESSION MEANT THEY WERE GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU. OF COURSE, THAT WAS NOT THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THAT WAS NOT THE WAY IT TURNED. SO Y'ALL ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR BEING VERY INNOVATIVE AND I KNOW IT TAKES SOME RESTRAINT WHEN PEOPLE ARE WANTING YOU TO GIVE YOUR OPINION, BUT OF COURSE YOU WERE THERE TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS AND I THOUGHT YOU SET A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR THAT. THE MEETINGS OF COURSE WERE HELD THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT TIMES, WEEK DAYS, ON THE WEEKENDS, SOME EVENINGS, SOME DURING THE DAY, SO WE REALLY TRIED TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE ANYBODY COULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF IF THEY WANTED TO. WE ASKED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, MOST OF WHICH WERE DISCUSSED IN SMALL GROUPS AND TALKED ABOUT AND THEN REPORTED OUT AS A GROUP, AND WE'LL GET TO WHAT THE RESULTS OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE, BUT AT THE FRONT END AND AT THE BACK END, WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US RESPONSES ABOUT THEIR LOVE FOR PLANO AND THEN LATER THEIR HOPES FOR PLANO, AND WE CREATED FROM THAT A WORD CLOUD THAT YOU CAN SEE REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE RANGE OF ANSWERS THAT WE GOT, AND WE ASKED WHAT DO YOU LOVE THE MOST ABOUT PLANO, PARKS, SAFETY SCHOOLS OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOWED UP IN A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE'S RESPONSES, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY AND A SENSE OF DIVERSITY LIBRARIES LOCATION NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN SEE THOSE -- THE MORE OFTEN SOMEBODY RECORDED THAT WORD, THE BIGGER OF COURSE THE WORD IS IN THE WORD CLOUD, SO EVERY WORD THAT SOMEBODY GAVE US IS REPRESENTED THERE, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST COMMON HAVE THE BIGGEST FONT. THE SECOND QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE SOME THINGS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU HOPE NEVER CHANGES? AND SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION OF HOW THIS WAS DONE, WE PUT PEOPLE IN SMALL GROUPS, AND THEY TALKED AUTHOSE QUESTIONS, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND REPORTED OUT, AND WE SCRIBED IT AND WROTE IT DOWN TO MAKE SURE WE RECORDED NOT WHAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL SAID, BUT WHAT THE GROUP SAID. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU SEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S 17, THAT MEANS 17 OF THE GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF FEBRUARY SAID THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE NEVER CHANGES, AND THEN YOU KIND OF GO ON DOWN FROM THERE. ALL OF THE RESPONSES, BUT IN THE POWERPOINT, WE FELT LIKE WE WOULD HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT WERE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT. SO -- IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF RESPONSE. SO WHAT DID I LIKE? PUBLIC SAFETY, THIS IS WHAT THEY HOPE WON'T CHANGE. SMALL TOWN FEEL. THE QUALITY OF SCHOOLS. AND THEN RIGHT UP THERE WITH IT, CITY GOVERNMENT. SO THAT IS -- I'LL COMMENT ON THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT AS WE COME TO THE END. BUT YOU CAN SEE THEN, ALSO THE QUALITY OF COMMUNITY, OPEN GREEN SPACE, PARKS AND REC CENTERS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THEY SAY WE HOPE THAT WON'T CHANGE. WE ALSO ASKED THE QUESTION WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER, AND WE DIDN'T TRY TO DEFINE DOES WE MEAN THE COUNCIL, DOES WE MEAN THE CITY, DOES WE MEAN THE POPULOUS, SO WE LET THEM DEFINE IT AS THEY WANTED TO, BUT WE HEARD MOST OFTEN FROM GROUPS WAS HOUSING, AND THAT'S OF COURSE SOMETHING THAT IS NATIONWIDE, DOESN'T MATTER THE SIZE OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S A SUBURB OR A STAND-ALONE CITY, SMALL TOWN, METROPOLITAN CITY, THIS IS AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE. AND PLANO, NO EXCEPTION. THERE WAS ALSO A DESIRE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE EMPHASIS ON ENVIRONMENTALISM LIVING GREEN. ROADS, YOU KNOW, WERE TALKED ABOUT POSITIVELY IN MANY PLACES BUT ALSO SAYING WE COULD DO BETTER WITH ROADS WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON EITHER. YOU CAN SEE ALSO DOWN THERE NEAR THE END, HOMELESSNESS CAME UP A LOT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN FROM THE PEOPLE WE HEARD FROM ABOUT HOW THATAN BE ADDRESSED AND ALLEVIATED. QUESTION 4 WAS PERHAPS THE MOST AS PIERATIONAL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CITY. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING RESPONSE. THE NUMBER ONE THING PEOPLE SAID WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR BEING SAFE. WE WANT TO BE SAFE, CLOSELY RELATED -- OR CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THAT IS QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THEN DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVENESS WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT SAID IT AS QUALITY OF LIFE. ALSO GOOD SCHOOLS, A SUBURBAN FEEL, AND THEN TO BE WELCOMING TO BUSINESS, ALSO SHOWED UP IN A LOT OF THE GROUPS THAT REPORTED. QUESTION 5 WAS ABOUT PRESSING NEEDS. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITYHAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS? AND THERE IS WHERE YOU SEE HOMELESSNESS REALLY WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING PEOPLE SPOKE ABOUT. IN TERMS OF GROUPS. ALSO THAT THE COMMUNITY'S AGING, AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO HOUSING? HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO SERVICES? HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO SERVICES THAT WILL BE NEEDED? ROADS AND TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE WITH IT. AND THEN REALLY THE -- IT'S ZONING DEVELOPMENT. HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND HAVE GOOD DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO TO NOT BE LOSING TOUCH WITH OUR SUBURBAN NATURE OF OUR CITY. THEN COMMUNITY RECREATION, ENTERTAINMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE EDUCATION AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ALL SHOWED UP SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BIG FOUR THERE IS DEVELOPMENT ROAD TRAFFIC AGING POPULATION, AND HOMELESSNESS. AND THIS QUESTION WAS MORE FOR THE STAFF AND MAYBE FOR COUNCIL. BUT LESS ABOUT COMMUNITY AND MORE HOW CAN THE ORGANIZATION RESPOND? HOW CAN WE SET THE KIND OF EXAMPLE THAT WILL INSPIRE OTHERS TO WORK WITH US FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY? AND THE BIG TWO, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IS ENGAGE THE RESIDENTS, AND WE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING IN COMMENTS, WE LOVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT MORE OFTEN. THEY LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU WERE ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE THEM. AND THEN CONNECTED WITH THAT IS COMMUNICATION, AND EVERYBODY FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY ORGANIZATION THEY'RE IN, WE NEED BETTER COMMUNICATION, AND THAT ROSE UP THERE AS WELL. THE LAST QUESTION THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE GROUP WAS WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT IS -- THAT ARE HINDERING US FROM WORKING TOGETHER MORE EFFECTIVELY. AND AGAIN, THERE'S PROBABLY 3 THAT I THINK STAND OUT MORE THAN THE REST. ONE IS NOT FINDING COMMON GROUND. AND I DO THINK, JUST TO SAY QUICKLY, I DO THINK EVENTS LIKE THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY ARDUOUS AND UNUSUAL, THEY HELP BUILD A SENSE OF COMMON GROUND. WHAT WE OFTEN HEAR IS WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE THOUGHT. AND WHEN YOU THINK ASPIRATIONALLY, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN DISAGREE ON MANY THINGS, MANY TIMES WE AGREE ON MORE THAN WE THOUGHT, BUT WE COME INTO THINKING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMON GROUND. HERE AGAIN COMMUNICATION SHOWS UP. THE DESIRE FOR MORE OF THAT. AND THEN THERE'S A FEEL FOR MANY GROUPS THAT THERE'S A HIGH BARRIER TO CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET INVOLVED, THEY MAYBE HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY JUMP THROUGH TOO MANY HOOPS. AGAIN, I THINK EVENTS LIKE THE LISTENING TOUR HELP CHANGE THAT DIALOGUE A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS ASPIRATIONAL BEFORE THE LAST WORD CLOUD, AND THAT IS TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT DO WE WANT PLAO HAVE OR BE THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW? OR DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF RIGHT NOW? AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THREE THINGS REALLY RISE TO THE TOP MORE SO THAN THE OTHERS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE GRAPH. THE FIRST ONE WAS WE WANT MORE ENTERTAINMENT AND REC OPPORTUNITIES AND YOU KNOW, 19 GROUPS SAID THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM, WHICH THAT'S MORE THAN ANY OTHER ITEM WE HAD RESPONSEWISE. CLOSELY -- CLOSE BEHIND THAT, THOUGH, WAS THE ENVIRONMENT, AND BEING -- HAVING MADE PROGRESS IN PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE ABOUT WHICH FIFTEEN GROUPS IDENTIFIED WAS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE IT, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THERE O BE MUCH MORE OF THAT. AND THE OTHERS, SEVERAL GROUPS RESPONDED TO, BUT YOU CAN SEE A MUCH BIGGER DIFFERENTIATION. SO THE -- WITH THE BEGINNING WE ASKED WHAT DO YOU LOVE THE MOST ABOUT PLANO. AT THE END WE ASK WHAT ARE YOUR HOPES FOR PLANO? AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE WORDS THAT WERE LISTED THE MOST OFTEN HAVE THE BIGGEST FONT. COMMUNITY FRIENDLY SAFE. SCHOOLS GREEN INCLUSIVE ACCESSIBLE. ALL OF THOSE. TRANSPORTATION. ALL OF THOSE HAVE A LOT OF MARKS FROM PEOPLE. SO LET ME JUST SAY THIS, KIND OF IN MY PART CLOSING, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SEE WITH THIS, WHEN WE'VE DONE THESE KINDS OF EVENTS IS THAT THERE'S MORE AGREEMENT THAN PEOPLE THINK. SECOND, THAT OUTLIERS TEND TO SELF IDENTIFY. THEY MAY COME IN THINKING EVERYBODY THINKS LIKE ME, BUT AFTER A FEW DISCUSSIONS, THEY SORT OF REALIZE, MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY DOES. AND I THINK WE SAW SOME OF THAT, BUT I WILL SAY FOR THE MOST PART, THERE WAS A LOT OF ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE HEARD. I WOULD SAY ALSO THERE WAS A LOT OF CARDIAL, VERY PROFESSIONAL AND RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE EVEN WHEN THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT. THE OTHER THING WE SEE, AND I THINK THIS IS TRUE IN THIS CASE, TOO, THAT RESPECT FOR LEADERSHIP, BOTH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF, RESPECT FOR LEADERSHIP GOES UP, NOT DOWN FROM THIS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU START HEARING A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK, THEY REALIZE, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS I THOUGHT IT WAS, AND THAT'S -- THAT'S COUNCILMAN FOR THAT. SO I THINK YOU REALLY KIND OF OUT THERE ON THE EDGE. YOU'RE BEING INNOVATIVE, AND I THINK YOU'LL GET GOOD USE OUT OF THIS DATA AS YOU BEGIN USING IT FOR YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL STOP AND SEE, COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> COUNCILMAN -- [ MULTIPLE VOICES ] >> FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE, ENTERTAINMENT AND REC OPPORTUNITIES WERE THE HIGHEST, DID YOU GET SPECIFICS ON THAT? WERE THERE ANY EXAMPLES THAT WERE GIVEN. >> NOT THAT WE LISTED LIKE SPECIFIC THINGS. THEY WANT MORE TO DO. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. WERE THERE ANY REAL SURPRISES AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS? ANYTHING YOU REALLY WEREN'T EXPECTING? >> I THINK I WAS SURPRISED AT THE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS TO BE HONEST. THAT -- I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE OF GROUPS AND THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF A -- MAYBE A SPECIALIZ GROUP, BUT IT WAS CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, SO FOR ME, NOT LIVING IN THE CITY, BUT WORKING WITH A LOT OF CITIES, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THAT WAS A GREAT CONCERN, AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE HEART OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PLANO. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: MIKE, IT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, AND I SEE US DOING THIS AGAIN. WHAT CAN WE DOO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE? >> WELL, IF YOU KEEP THERE FROM BEING A PANDEMIC AND TWO ICE STORMS, THAT WOULD HELP. >> Mayor Muns: THAT'S TRUE. >> I THINK ONE OTHER OPTION, MAYOR, THAT YOU COULD DO, I'VE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES DO THIS IS ENGAGE A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT IS MADE UP OF A COUPLE OF MEMBERS FROM COUNCIL, AND, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME EX OFFICIO PEOPLE FROM STAFF, BUT IS REALLY A CROSS SECTION OF LEADERS FROM YOUR COMMUNITY IN VARIOUS DYNAMICS, AND ELICIT THEIR SUPPORT FOR THEIR CONSTITUENCY, THAT CAN HELP A LOT, BECAUSE THEY BECOME YOUR CHAMPIONS OF IT, AND THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO THEIR SUPPORTERS, AND YOU DID THAT TO SOME DEGREE BY HAVING IT IN VARIOUS PLACES, BUT IT'S ONE THING TO SAY IT'S IN MY BUILDING. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO FEEL LIKE I'M STEERING THIS, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR SURE. >> COUNCILMAN GRADY? >> Grady: JUST A QUICK COMMENT, AND NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT I WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WE USE THIS IN FUTURE PLANNING SESSIONS SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE CITIZENS IN ORDER TO REALLY STEER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY, SO I COMMEND WHAT WE'VE DONE. IT CERTAINLY IS A VERY INTERESTING OBSERVATION ON NOT ONLY HOMELESSNESS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SURVEY, BUT HOW DO WE USE THIS AS WE BEGIN PLANNING IN THE SUMMER AND FALL FOR OUR NEXT STEPS. >> Mayor Muns: ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS UP AT THE END OF OUR MONTH WITH OUR COUNCIL STRATEGIC RETREAT. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE ITEMS AND DOCUMENTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY HOW TO UTILIZE THIS DATA IN SOME OF OUR DECISION-MAKING BUT ALSO OUR FORWARD PROGRESS IN HOSTING FUTURE EVENTS TO ALLOW THAT FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS TO COME BACK TO US. AND WE WILL HAVE THE DATA BOTH FOR DECISION-MAKING PURPOSES AND FOR FUTURE ACTIVITY PURPOSES. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MIKE WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS DID. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU AS WELL. >> APPRECIATE Y'ALL, GLAD TO BE PARTNERS WITH YA'. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: OUR NEXT ITEM IS BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PERMIT PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. MATA, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS SALSA MATA, I'M HERE TO S IMPROVEMENT REPORT. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE BEGAN LAST YEAR LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD A CONSULTANT LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, AND WE BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER. PROJECT WORK PLAN, WHICH STARTED WITH DIAGRAMMING SOLUTIONS, 10 PERMIT TYPES, AND A STAKEHOLDER LIST WAS PUT TOGETHER. WE ALSO HAD SURVEYS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE STAKEHOLDER RESPONDING TO THOSE SURVEYS AFTER TY WERE SEN . IN DATA REVIEW OF ALL OF THE SURVEY AND MEETING DATA WAS PUT TOGETHER AGAIN, LOOKING AT DIAGRAMMING WORD FLOWS, AND IN NOVEMBER, A DRAFT REPORT WAS PUT TOGETHER LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH FOR CONSIDERATIONS. THE UPDATED FINAL REPORT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN DECEMBER, AND IN JANUARY, OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT MEMO WAS ISSUED WITH TEN ITEMS THAT I WILL SHOW YOU HERE. TEN ITEMS LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SOME OF THEM ARE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS CALLED TRACK-IT. WE HAVE CERTAIN SUGGESTIONS ON COMPLETENESS, INTAKE, STANDARDIZING PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS, LOOKING AT FIELD FUNCTIONALITY FOR INSPECTORS CONSOLIDATING STEPS FOR ALL PERMITS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM BEGINNING WITH NUMBER ONE. AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE BULLET POINTS IN BLUE ARE THE ITEMS THAN PROCESS OR WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED. SO NUMBER ONE, EXPLORE EACH TRAKIT PORTAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE DO HAVE WITH OUR ETRAKIT, FOUR STAKEHOLDERS, ALLOWANCE TO PAY ONLINE, THEY CAN LOOK AT PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW WITH ONLINE PERMITTING FOR SIMPLE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING PERMITS, SMALL JOBS, LIKE A WATER HEATER. THINGS THAT DON'T REQUIRE PLANS. SO WE ARE TASKED WITH COLLECTING THE CREDIT CARD WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAS A CONVENIENCE FEE OF 2.9%, eTRAKIT CANNOT COLLECT THE FEE, SO THAT'S WHY WE LIMIT THE ONLINE PERMITTING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ALSO IN ITEM NUMBER 1 IS DIGITAL FILE SHARING PLATFORM, DOWNLOADING OR RATHER UPLOADING AT THAT POINT FILES. DO HAVE A WEBSITE PORTAL THAT HAS BEEN CREATED FOR ELECTRONIC PLANS. WE'VE BEEN TESTING THAT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD. BUT THOSE ARE SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS. A LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOLUTION REPLACEMENT THAT DSSR IS WHAT WE CALL IT, AND THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, ENGINEER PLANNING FIRE BUILDING INSPECTIONS, HEALTH. WE ALL GOT TOGETHER, IN JANUARY, AND WE BEGAN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING TRAKIT SO THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. NUMBER TWO. EDUCATE CUSMERS ON EXISTING eTRAKIT PORTAL FUNCTIONALITY. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE THINGS TRAKIT CAN'T DO. AND WE DO HAVE THAT POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT AVAILABILITY HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. AND WHEN WE DO ISSUE A PERMIT, STAFF DOES INFORM APPLICANTS ABOUT THE ETRAKIT CAPABILITIES, BUT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT HITTING ON ALL CYLINDERS COMMUNICATING WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS. SO WHAT WE'VE CREATED ARE HANDOUTS SPECIFICALLY FOR eTRAKIT. SO WHILE WE'RE HANDING THEM THE PMIT, WE'RE ALSO GIVING THEM A FLYER ON ETRAKIT AND IT TELLS THEM TO DO WHAT TO DO. WE CAN SEND THAT IN A LINK SO WE CAN CLICK ON THAT. THERE IS ALSO A SUGGESTION THAT WE CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL VIDEO WHICH CAN OUTLINE EVERYTHING TRAKIT CAN DO. AND THAT IS WORKING RIGHT NOW. NUMBER 3, PROVIDE A COMPLETENESS CHECK DURING INTAKE. WHEN YOU COME TO THE DEPARTMENT, YOU BRING YOUR PLANS AND OF COURSE WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE YOUR PLANS AND YOUR APPLICATION. WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE FINDING OUT AND WE'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS IS WE DON'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING WE NEED. SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME LOW-HANGING FRUIT, THINGS THAT PERHAPS LIKE FOR INSTANCE WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON AN EXISTING BUILDING, THAT'S A STATE LAW. TDLR REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSIBILITY IS REQUIRED WHEN YOUR PROJECT EXCEEDS $50,000. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE B THE ARE PART OF THE PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS, SO THAT ADDS TO OUR REVIEW, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS PLANNING, IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING WHEN YOU COME TO TALK TO THEM, THEY WILL -- THEY DON'T START THAT PROCESS, SO THEY WILL SEND YOU BACK. WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING WHAT WE CALL A SOFT OPENING. WE'VE CREATED THAT COMPLETENESS CHECKLIST, AND WE'RE CHECKING, AND WE'RE TELLING CUSTOMERS THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE PLANS AND WE WANT YOU TO HAVE ALL THESE ITEMS. NOW, THERE'S ONLY EIGHT ITEMS ON THE LT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CHECK OFF WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE, HAND IT RIGHT BACK TO THEM, AND IF THERE'S THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY WILL KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO BRING IN. A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE SIMPLE FOR THEM TO BRING IN. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH REVIEW TIMES AND HELP OUR PLANNER VIEW. NUMBER 4, ESTABLISH RECURRING CHECK IN MEETINGS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. LARGE PROJECTS. REQUIRE BUILDING INSPECTIONS FIRE PLANNING ENGINEERING. WE'RE ALL REVIEWING SIMULTANEOUSLY SOHAT DOES OCCUR OCCASIONALLY IF -- WHILE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CUSTOMER, PERHAPS WE'RE THROUGH WITH OUR REVIEW, AND ENGINEERING MAY NOT BE GETTING FOR INSTANCE EERYTHING THEY NEED FROM THE CUSTOMER, CIVIL PLANS, COMMENTS. SO WE TELL THE CUSTOMER WE CAN'T ISSUE THE PERMIT, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE, WE CAN'T ISSUE UNTIL EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY NEED. SO WE UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS -- MY PROPOSAL IS EVERY TWO WEEKS, THE DEPARTMENTS WILL CHECK ON PROJECTSHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO ISSUE AND VERY CLOSE TO ISSUE A PERMIT, AND WE'LL CHECK WITH EACH DEPARTMENT WHERE WE ARE, SO WE KNOW THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY WE'RE ALL ABOUT TO FINISH OUR PLAN REVIEWS AT THE SAME TIME. WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT FIRST MEETING LAST WEEK. WE HAVE A MONTHLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MEETINGS EVERY MONTH, WE'VE HAD THAT FOR YEARS, WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM, AND THAT ITEM WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA, AND SO WE'LL KEEP DOING THAT EVERY TWO WEEKS. NUMBER 5, STAARDIZE THE AN REVIEW PROSS. SO THERE IS A SUGGESTION, OBVIOUSLY A REQUEST FOR ELECTRONIC SUBMITTAL AND REVIEW, BUT ALSO THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT THE PLANS EXAMNERS AND HOW THEY PERFORM PLAN REVIEW. ONE WAS ABOUT CODE SECTIONS, PLAN REVIEW CAN GET LENGTHY CERTAIN ITEMS, USUALLY WE DO THAT ON CHRISTMAS TREE ALL LIFE SAFETY ITEMS, FOR INSTANCE IF YOU HAD A FIREWALL THAT WAS REQUIRED, THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD QUOTE THE SECTION AND TELL Y ABOUT IT AND HOW TO BUILD IT. BUT WE CAN DO THAT ON ALL CODE ITEMS IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE ALSO CREATED A COMMENT LETTER, A TEMPLATE, THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT, SO ALL COMMENTS WILL GO ON THE SAME TEMPLATE LETTER, AND THEN THAT WILL BE ISSUED TO ALL APPLICANTS WHENEVER THEY RECEIVE THEIR COMMENTS FOR PLAN REVIEW. AGAIN, ELECTRONIC PLAN REVIEW IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO EXPAND. WE USE BLUE BEAM SOFTWARE, IT'S STANDARD DEVELOPING SOP. BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE AS WE ARE WORKING ON IS THE UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD CAPABILITIES OF LARGE FILES. AND AGAIN, I'VE LISTED THE DSSR, THAT'S THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION. CURRENTLY, THAT'S UNDERWAY. NUMBER 6, AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE EXPEDITED PROCESSES. THAT IS ABOUT PLAN REVIEW AND GETTING AN EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS, IS HAVE A THIRD PARTY PERFORM THAT EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW, AND THE REASON WE WOULD DO THAT IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW OUR PLANS EXAMINERS TO KEEP WORKING ON PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE EXPEDITED REQUESTED, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP WORKING ON PROJECTS AND THEN THIRD PARTY WOULD PERFORM THE EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW. WE'VE ALREADY CREATED THAT DOCUMENT, AND IT IS AN RFQ IN PROCESS WITH PURCHASING. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ADJUST THE FEE SCHEDULE, AMEND IT TO REFLECT THE PLAN REVIEW REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FEES ON EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW. NUMBER 7, IS EXPLORE FIELD FUNCTIONALITY OPTIONS. THIS IS ABOUT OUR INSPECTORS IN THEIR CAPABILITIES WITH THEIR ADDS IN THE FIELDS, THEY GO WITH THEIR ADDRESSES AND THE PERMIT NUMBERS, THEY CAN GO OUT THERE TO THE FIELD AND RECORD THE INSPECTION RESULTS AND SEND THAT TO THE CONTRACTOR. SO THAT IS IMMEDIATE. BUT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY WHICH CAN BE HELPFUL, AND THEY CAN'T LOOK AT PLANS ELECTRONICALLY, SO WE ARE SUGGESTING A USE OF A VPN, VIRTUAL PROTEION NETWORK, WHICH WOULD ACCESS THE TRAKIT DESK TOP SOFTWARE, THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT ON MY iPAD, SO I KNOW THAT IT WORKS, WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT. TECHNOLOGY SERVICES IS EXPLORING THIS OPTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO IN LOOKING AT THIS IN JUNE, INTERNET EXPLORER, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE TRAKIT WITH, IT HAS TO BE USED ON THAT BROWSER, WILL BE GOING AWAY, SO WE ARE TESTING EDGE, WHICH IS THE NEW OWSE THAT WILL BE REPLACING INTERNET EXPLORER, AND THAT IS ALREADY GOING ON, AND FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, IT'S WORKING OUT VERY WELL, SO THAT WILL BE EXPANDED VERY SOON. NUMBER 8, EXPAND APPLICATION GUIDELINES AND CHECKLISTS. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE WEBSIT ABOUT WHAT WE DO, AND SO WE HAVE UPDATED AND EXPANDED SEVERAL THINGS AS PART OF THIS EXERCISE. A LOT OF INFORMATIONAL HANDOUTS OUT THERE ON PERMITTING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ASKED IS WHAT TO EXPECT AFTER PERMIT IS SMITT. WE DIDTAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE DO NOW. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- HANDOUTS THAT WE HAVE CREATED. AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO FILL ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER REQUESTS, AND SO OUR WEBSITE HAS A LOT MORE INFORMATION UPDATED. THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A BLUSH OF SOME OF THE HANDOUTS AND WORK PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE, CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN READ, BUT IN SO DOING THE EXERCISE, STAFF HAS REALLY EMBRACED LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THIS,OR INSTANCE GENERATORS. AS A RESULT OF WINTER STORM URI, WE'VE SEEN AN UP TICK IN RESIDENTIAL GENERATOR REQUESTS. WE STREAMLINED THAT PROCESS. IT'S ONE PAGE. WE HAVE THAT HERE. YOU CAN'T READ IT. WE'VE COLLAPSED A LOT OF THINGS WE WERE WORKING ON, MADE IT A LOT EASIER TO GET A GENERATOR. NUMBER 9, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSOLIDATE STEPS IN OUR PERMIT REVIEW AND INSPECTION PROCESS. WELL, THAT IS ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVEEEN TALKING ABOUT, ALL THE DIFFERENT STEPS WE'VE TAKEN THROUGH INSPECTIONS, THROUGH THE WEBSITE, AND THE ONLINE PORTAL FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR ELECTRONIC PLAN SUBMITTAL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO DO IS PAYING WHEN WE KNOW THAT A PERMIT IS READY, WE CAN CALL THE CUSTOMER AND SEND THEM A PAY LINK SO THEY CAN PAY ONLINE THROUGH THAT LINK, AND IT WILL NOT IMPACT OUR DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS THE SERVICE FEES WITH THE CREDIT CARD. WE CAN ALSO E-MAIL THE PERMITS OUT. SMALLER PERMITS, NOT SOMETHING AS LARGE AS AN H-E-B OBVIOUSLY WE COULDN'T DO THAT, AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER AND WORKING ON. AND OF COURSE, I CAN'T FAIL TO MENTION ONE MORE TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOLUTION, DSSR, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS REALLY GOING TO HELP US WITH EFFICIENCIES, THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. NUMBER 10, CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL PLANS EXAMINE RESOURCE. AS WE TKED ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS ON PERMIT INTAKE, WE WOULD LIKE A PLANS EXAMINER, IF THEY COULD DO THIS, IT WOULD BE REVIEWING THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS FOR INTAKE COMPLETENESS, THEY WOULD PERFORM THAT EXERCISE. WE WOULD ASSIGN THEM PLAN REVIEW PROJECT, SMALLER HOME PROJECTS, AND WE WOULD HAVE THEM AT THE FRONT COUNTER, ANSWERING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PERMITTING QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE A PLANS EXAMINER OF THE DAY THAT TAKES IN CALL, SO WE WOULD ASK THEM TO TAKE ON THAT TASK AS WELL, AND WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY PERMITS THAT WE WORK WITH PLANNING, SO WE HAVE TO ROUTE THAT SO THERE'S A LOT OF FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, AND SOME REVIEW THAT TAKES PLACE, SO IF WE COULD HAVE A PLANS EXAMINER RESEARCH PERFORMING ALL OF THESE DUTIES SEPARATELY, THEN THAT WOULD FREE UP ALL OUR PLANS EXAMINERS IN THE BACK TO CONTINUOUSLY WORK ON THEIR PROJECTS WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION, SO THAT WOULD BE AN EFFICIENCY THAT WE THINK WOULD BE GREAT. THAT IS SOMETHING AS WE APPROACH GETTING READY FOR BUDGET THAT I WILL BE ASKING FOR IN THE FUTURE. AND AT THIS POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL LOOKING AT YOUR DEPARTMENT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ON THE EXPEDITED REVIEW PROCESS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A LIMITED NUMBER WHO CAN UTILIZE THIS AT A TIME BEFORE WEET BACKED UP A IT'S NO LONGER EXPEDITED? >> THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. AND WE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THAT MANY YEARS AGO. LAYING OUT ALL MY CARDS ON THE TABLE. WE DID THIS A LONG TIME AGO AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. EVERYONE WANTED IT, AND SO THEY WERE ALL ON THE TABLE, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPEDITED PLAN. SO WE RAISED A FEE, AND IT DID HAVE AN IMPACT, SO GOT SMALLER, BUT WE LIMITED THAT TO SMALLER SCOPE OF 5,000 SQUARE FOOT AND BUSINESS OCCUPANCY, WHICH IS BASICALLY AN OFFICE, SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE IT FOR INTERIOR FINISH OUTS, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR 50 SPRINKLER HEADS. NOW, IN THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT, THEY COMMENTED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE THIS IN PLACE, SO I TALKED TO FIRE, AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW. SO IT'S A MATCH, AND SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE WOULD DO THAT. I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPAND THE PROGRAM IF WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE WOULD BE. >> THANK YOU. MY SECOND QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS AFTER ALL THIS IS IMPLEMENTED TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE AND HOW THIS HAS IMPACTED THEIR BUSINESS? >> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE ANONYMOUS. I WOULD HAVEOVED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY. BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE COMING OUT OF COVID IS SOMETHING THAT WE MEANT TO IMPLEMENT IN MARCH, BUT AS WE KEEP MOVING AROUND, ARE WE OKAY, ARE WE NOT, I THINK WE'RE AT A GOOD POINT WHERE WE WILL BEGIN CONTRACTOR LUNCHEONS AGAIN, AND I WOULD -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, IF I CAN, CERTAINLY I CAN ASK, IS THE CONSULTANT COULD GIVE ME THE LIST OF ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WE HAVE, AND INVITE THEM TO THE LUNCHEON. CERTAINLY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE'RE ALSO INVITE ALL THE BUILDERS, SO WE USED TO DO THAT AT LEAST THREE TIMES A YEAR, AND SO WE USED TO GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD HELP US. IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN MISSING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. >> COUNCILMAN GRADY? >> Grady: THANK YOU MR. MATA. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. FIT, YOU INDICATED THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH TRAKIT ON EDGE, MOVING FROM IE TO EDGE AND WORKING WITH IT ON iPADS, AND THEN YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE NEW SYSTEM DSSR THAT YOU'RE MOVING TO AND EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING AWAY FROM TRAKIT. ARE WE TESTING DSSR ON EDGE AND iPADS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING TOWARD THAT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PRACTICAL SPENDING TIME FIGURING OUT IF TRAKIT WOULD WORK ON EDGE. NE SOFTWARE.IS COMPLETELY WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT SINCE WE JUST HAD THE RFP GO OUT LAST MONTH, AND SO, UMM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE. WE EXPECT TO HAVE A SELECTION COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER IN AUGUST, POSSIBLY THE ENTIRE NEW SOFTWARE, WHATEVER IS SELECTED, I WOULD THINK IMPLEMENTED AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HOPEFULLY BE USING IT. SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING WOULD BE IN THE ONE SOURCE OF THAT SOFTWARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOFTWARE IS. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD WORK WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THE WORKAROUNDS WITH TRAKIT. >> IN THE SPECK THAT WE DREW FOR THAT, THE SPECIFICATION WE PUT TOGETHER FOR DSSR, IT WOULD INCLUDE WORKING WITH MICROSOFT EDGE, CORRECT? >> IT INCLUDES WORKING WITH ALL WEB BROWSERS OR ANYTHING -- IT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO PICK THAT UP. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET TO THAT MORE SUCCINCT. >> Grady: YEAH. REASONS, DSSR IS NOT A DEFINED SYSTEM AS YET. >> NO. >> Grady: DSSR IS A REQUEST OF AN RFP AND HAVE YOU NO IDEA -- >> I'M SORRY, IT'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOFTWARE REPLACEMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT. I HATE TO SAY AN INSIDE JOKE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL IT THE DSSR, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY WE'RE REPLACING TRAKIT. >> Grady: SECOND QUESTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEAR FROM BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS IS ON SITE INSPECTIONS AND TIMELINESS OF ON SITE INSPECTIONS AND ALSO FROM THEIR POSITION ONE INSPECTOR WILL SAY CERTAIN THINGS NEED TO BE MET IN ORDER TO RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE. A SECOND INSPECTOR WILL COME OUT AND SAY DIFFERENT THINGS IN ORDER TO REACH A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR WHATEVER IT IS. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME DISCONNECT ON THE SITE, SO AS ARE YOU TALKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS, DID THEY VOICE THAT? AND I WAS LOOKING IN ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAD, I DIDN'T SEE HOW THAT WAS BEINGDDRESSED. >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE HEAR ALL THE TIME. IT IS A STRUGGLE, AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO NEW INSPECTORS, THEY'RE QUITE SEASONED. ONE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. THEY JOINED US IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. SO JUST GETTING TOGETHER ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE CODES AND HOW WE APPLY THEM, THAT IS A CONSISTENCY TNG. WE WORK ON -- WE HAVE MEETINGS RIGHT NOW SCHEDULED OUT THROUGH THE YEAR ON TRAINING. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE EVERY MONDAY WITH THE -- A REVIEW OF A MEETING ON, WHERE INSPECTORS ARE, PLANS EXAMINERS, EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO, ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. I FREQUENTLY HEAR THIS AS A COMMENT, SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS JUST EXPLAINED FROM WHERE THERE'S A CODE ITEM THAT WAS MISUNDERSTOOD, AND IT'S EXACTLYHEAME THING THAT THEY SAID, THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE IN THE FIELD, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, CONSISTENCY IS SOMETHING THAT IS HARD TO ACHIEVE, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS IN PURSUIT OF THAT. >> Grady: OKAY, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE -- ONE OF THE LARGER HANGUPS THAT I HEAR WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF DEVELOPERS, AND THE ISSUE SOMETIMES IS COSTLY BECAUSE THEY MAY SEE THAT THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN ADJUSTMENT TO WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT IS. THEY SPENDOLLARS TO DO THAT, AND THEN THE NEXT INSPECTION EITHER SAYS, OH, YOU REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, OR NOW YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, AND THEN IT'S MORE DOLLARS, SO THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HEAR, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND ADDRESSING IT, I THINK THAT'S OKAY. >> YES, SIR. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, AND I -- I WOULD WELCOME ANY BUILDER TO CALL ME ON ANYTHING THAT'S IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. >> Mayor Muns: LET ME GET TO COUNCILWOMAN -- >> YES, I'VE HEARD THE SAME COMMENTS, COUNCILMEN GRADY, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I DID REACH OUT TO A FEW PEOPLE FOR INPUT THAT ARE STAKEHOLDERS, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOU, MR. MATA, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S RESPECT, MAYBE EVEN THOUGH THINGS DON'T GO SMOOTHLY, THEY HAD VERY GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOU. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT CONCERN WITH THE -- NOT HAVING THE CONSISTENCY, I ALSO HEARD A FEW PEOPLE SAY THEY'LL COME OUT TO PASS ME FOR MY CO, AND SOMETHING'S WRONG, SO THEY WILL FAIL IT, BUT NOT CONTINUE THE WALK THROUGH SO THEY CAN GET THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS SO THEY CAN TRY TO GET THEM ALL FIXED AT ONCE. I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS, BUT I'M JUST SHARING THAT INPUT. I ALSO HEARD SOME VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PLEASED WITH RECENT IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE THE RESULT OF COVID, BUT PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY ONLINE. AND NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT. IS IT CORRECT THAT ONCE Y REPLACE EACH -- SORRY. ONCE YOU FIND YOUR DSSR, THEN THAT WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE ALL PAYMENTS, IS THAT THE PLAN SO -- >> YES, MA'AM, THAT IS EXACTLY THE GOAL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. >> OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO UPLOAD MORE DOCUMENTS AND SHARE MORE INFORMATION. I ALSO HEARD THAT TEXTING, E-MAILING AND CELL PHONE ACCESS TO INSPECTORS HAS IF THAT IS A NEW THING ORW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT IT'S BEEN APPRECIATED, SO THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT, PEOPLE DO APPRECIATE IT. I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW CAN WE SUPPORT YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH ANY ADDITIONAL TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GIVES US THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DIRECTION. WE'VE HAD TO PIVOT AND MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND ARE THERE ANY THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE LOOKING AT SUCH AS MAYBE THE POSSIBILITY OF VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS FOR CERTAIN LESS TECHNICAL ITEMS OR EVEN TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS TO SEND IN TO SPEED UP T PROCESS, MAYBE ESPECIALLY STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU HAVE A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH AND HAVE EARNED YOUR TRUST AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU'VE CONSIDERED AS WELL. PREVE. >> WE ACTUALLY DID THATDURING TS SOMETHING WE HAD TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH HOMEOWNERS, DID A LOT OF DIGITAL INSPECTIONS, WE'RE TESTING SOFTWARE. THERE'S DIFFERENT SOFTWARES OUT THERE. THAT FUNCTION EXACTLY LIKE FACETIME, SO YOU COULD SEE EVERYTHING, ACTUALLY, AND WE COULD -- WE WOULD ACTUALLY STILL DRIVE OUT THERE. WE WOU BE IN THE TRUCK, AND THEY WOULDN'T LET US IN, WHICH IS FINE, THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE AROUND THERE, OR THE HOMEOWNER, AND SHOW US EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED TO SEE, AND WE COULD TALK THROUGH THE INSPECTION, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THE DSSR, I THINK AS WE'VE ALL COME BACK, THAT'S NOT BEEN A REQUEST AS MUCH BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT. >> GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP TOO, SO SAVE A LITTLE BIT THERE. THEN THE LAST COMMENT THAT I RECEIVED WAS JUST STREAMLINING PROCESSES. A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A PLACE FOR APPLICANT AND CONTRACTOR AND SOMETIMES IT'S THE SAME PERSON, SO JUST LIKE WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING ON AMAZON AND YOU PUT YOUR MAILING ADDRESS FOR BILLING, CAN YOU CHECK THE SAME AS APPLICANT OR SOMETHING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENTER INFORMATION NUMEROUS TIMES. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THAT WILL HAPPEN. >> ON THE APPLICATION YOU'RE SAYING? MIGHT BE THE SAME PERSON. YEAH. WE'VE GOT, I BELIEVE, ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE AND ARE FILLABLE WITH THE PDF, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY -- OH, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU HAVE TO TYPE IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. OKAY. >> SO JUST A BOX THAT SAYS SAME AS APPLICANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD SAVE SOME TIME. >> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE'LL DO THAT. >> I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> COUNCILMAN SMITH. >> I WAS ALSO FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT THE COUNCILMAN JUST SAID. MY DEALINGS ARE PRIMARILY WITH CONTRACTORS, XWROOUFRZ, PEOPLE LIKE THAT. THE PEOPLE TAL WITH GENERALLY WOULD MUCH RATHER BE DOING BUSINESS HERE IN PLANO AND DEALING WITH OUR STAFF THAN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT I WON'T NAME, BUT OVERALL I'M SURE WE'RE NOT PERFECT. NO ONE IS. I THINK FROM WHAT I HEAR, WE ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. THE ONE THING I LIKE, IT'S HEARING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO MORE FIELD IN HAND, ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION INSPECTION BECAUSE THAT CAN ELIMINATE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT AS WHERE ONE INSPECTOR MIGHT HAVE SAID SOMETHING AND TOLD SOMEONE IS SOMETHING VERBALLY AND SAYS SOMETHING SDIRCHT.OUT IF IT'S DONE ELECTRONICALLY, IT'S PART OF THE RECORD. SOMEBODY ELSE COMES OUT. THEY CAN GO AND SEE THE SAME CONVERSATION, SAME RECORD THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY. THAT CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THE NEW DSSR, WORKING TOWARDS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES. THE LAST THING AND THE ONE THING I REALLY WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, THE E-TRACK IT THAT WE'RE USING, THAT'S BOTH FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL? >> YES. >> AGAIN, MAYBE ONCE WE GET ELECTRONIC, THAT WILL HELP, BUT I KNOW I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH A RESIDENT LAST WEEK THAT WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THE ISSUES THEY WERE HAVING WITH A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, AND THEY NEVER EVEN MENTIONED E-TRACK IT. THE THING THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THEY WOULD GET CONFLICTING INFORMATION, AND IT WAS HARD FOR THEM TO FIND. THEY WOULD HAVE TO CALL UP OR EMAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO FIND OUT. FOR ME THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE E-TRACK IT. THAT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN AN ANOMALY. SOMETHING UNUSUAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO BE CERTAIN THAT THAT GETS PASSED OUT TO EVERY APPLICANT SO THEY KNOW AND THEY CAN GO IN AND TRACK THINGS ELECTRONICALLY. >> PERHAPS WHEN WE GET AN APPLICATION, IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S AUTOMATIC SINCE WE CAN DO IT AS A LINK. WE CAN RESPOND AND SEND IT RIGHT TO THEM. EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE A PERMIT WITH, NO MATTER WHO IT IS, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, THEY CAN RECEIVE THAT AND KNW ABOUT E-TRACK IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. >> I THINK THE CHECKLIST THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING IS VERY GOOD BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT THEY WEREN'T EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO PROVIDE BACK. THIS WAS KIND OF AN UNUSUAL SITUATION. I DON'T WANT TO BET INTO ALL THE DETAILS. I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING WILL HELP CORRECT THE SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, BUT IF WE COULD BE SURE THAT THAT E-TRACK IT AND IT'S DEFINITELY GIVEN OUT TO EVERYONE, THAT WILL BE A BIG PLUS AS WELL. CERT >> CERTAINLY, WITH HE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION AND FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT DOES. I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW YOU GUYS ARE RELENTLESSLY FOCUSING ON PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT RESTING ON YOUR LAURELS, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO CREATE ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCY. I ALSO REALLY LIKE THE EXPEDITED IDEA IN USING THAT AS A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE, AND TOWARDS THAT END, I CAN'T RECALL. WHAT PERCENTAGE ON AVERAGE DO WE RECOVER COSTS IN GENERAL DURING THE PERMIT RIEW PROCESS? >> WELL, THE QUICK ANSWER IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUAL NUMBER WOULD BE BECAUSE EACH OF THE PROJECTS WOULD BE SEPARATE AND VARYING DEGREES OF EVALUATION PROCESS ON PERMITS. THEN WE HAVE SET FEES ON SMALLER PERMITS, SO OVERALL I WOULD CERTAINLY BE A GUESS, BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY CLOSE TO -- COULD BE MORE THAN 75% AT TIMES, AND OUR PERMIT FEES AND DEPARTMENT, WE CERTAINLY -- THERE WAS A PENT-UP DEMAND AFTER COVID, SO 2021 WAS A PRETTY GOOD YEAR FOR US BECAUSE WE EXCEEDED PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAD. I THINK THEY WERE WELL OVER $8 MILLION, AND WE WERE THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE $4 MILLION, SO WE WERE EXTREMELY HIGH. IT'S HARD TO GAUGE THAT. I KNOW THAT WAS A SURPRISE. >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE FEE SCHEDULE RECENTLY. COULD YOU REMIND ME, DO WE EVER -- WITTHE PROJECT, LIKE A LARGER PROJECT WE HAVE A HIGHER FEE? >> YES. WE HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE THAT BASES IT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT AS IT BREAKS OUT, IT GOES BY THE THOUSANDS, AND AS YOU GO FORWARD, IF IT REACHES OVER, I BELIEVE IT'S OVER $00,000. COULD BE WRONG ON THAT. BUT IT'S $525, AND THEN IT GOES OVER IF IT GOES OVER THAT. >> WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT IS YOU MENTIONED THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PLAN EXAMINER, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SO MUCH INTEREST IN THE EXPEDITED PROCESS WHEN WE OFFERED THAT THAT PERHAPS IF -- PERHAPS IF THAT WERE SOMETHING THAT WERE WIDELY USED, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECOVER EVEN MORE COSTS AND PERHAPS THE COST OF A PLANS EXAMINER WOULD BE COVERED JUST THROUGH EXPEDITED FEES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS AN IDEA. COST RECOVERY ALWAYS IS A GREAT THING WHEN WE CAN DO THAT. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU'RE DOING. >> THE GOOD NEWS IS THE BUDGET SEASON IS UPON US, SO HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT FEE, FEE SCHEDULES, AND STAFF MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT THIS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS WAS A HUGE STUDY, HUGE UNDERTAKNG BY THE BUILDINGS NNKS DEPARTMENT. I REALLY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT EVEN PRIOR TO COMING BACK TO COUNCIL, THEY'VE FULLY EMBRACED THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDATIONS AND PUTTING THESE INTO ACTION. ALL THE BULLET POINTS THAT WERE IN BLUE WERE ALREADY IN PROCESS OR HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, AND I COMMEND AND YOU YOUR TEAM BECAUSE IN DISCUSSING IT WITH HIM, THE STATEMENT WAS IF WE CAN DO BETTER, WE'RE GOING TO DO BETTERAND THEY' ADOPTED THIS. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EMBRACING SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION DIRECTION REGARDING COMMENT OF PUBLIC INTEREST POLICY. SNOO WE HAVE A SECTION IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING THAT ALLOWS COMMENTS, PUBLIC INTEREST FROM OUR CITIZENS. IT'S BEEN A LONG PRACTICE OF THE CITY TO EMPLOY THE BEST PROCESSES TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE COUNCIL. ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED FOR THE AGENDA FOR THAT HEARING THAT NIGHT. WE HAVE HAD THIS IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS PRIOR TO SOME ELECTRONIC ADVANCES THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH BOTH EMAIL, TEXTING, AND OTHER WAYS THAT CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'VE ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE HAD THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST HAVE SOME COVERAGE LATELY, AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING BACK TO YOU WAS A REVIEW OF THIS COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST BASED UPON THE COUNCIL PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA AT OUR LAST SESSION. WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRANSPARENT AND GIVE OUR CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE US WITH CONCERNS THAT AFFECT THE CITY, AND THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMENTS THAT WE GET ARE COMMENTS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT. WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO AVOID THOSE ISSUES THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH. THAT'S BEEN AN OCCURRENCE OVER THE LAST THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS. WE ARE JUST OPEN TO HEARING IDEAS THAT WE CAN ASSURE THAT OUR CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS THE CITY, THAT WE CAN HEAR AND TRY TO AVOID THE ISSUES THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS MEETING AT HAND. >> MR. YOR, HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, AND I HAVE REALLY STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING IN LIFE, BUT SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE. I FIND IT THAT WHEN WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENTS, IT'S GREAT EXERCISE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. HOWEVER, I THINK PLANO HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS AS A CITY OF INCLUSIVENESS RATHER THAN EXCLUSIVENESS, AND WHEN COMMENTS ARE MEANT TO HARM THE CITY'S IMAGE AS WELLS SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO DRAW THE LINE, AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS IS RAISED ECAUSE THERE'S A GENUINE CONCERN OF CITY OF PLANO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM LISTENING TO CRITICAL CRITIQUES OR COMMENTS THAT ARE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN CITY OF PLANO, OUR BELOVED CITY, IS BEING PUT IN THE SPOTLIGHT FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CONTINUING STRIVE TO BE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. I ASK THAT ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TOGETHER CONSIDER POSSIBLY MAKING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE FOCUSED ON CITY BUSINESS, MORE FOCUSED ON THE PROTOCOL THAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING APPROPRIATE. WHETHER IT'S THROUGH CLOTHING, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE VERBIAGE THAT'S USED, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD SHOW THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, AND THE REASON WHY WE BELIEVE THAT CITY OF PLANO IS A CITY OF EXCELLENCE. SO I AM PROPOSING THAT WE THINK ABOUT POSSIBLY SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. FOR EXAMPLE, CONSOLIDATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO PERHAPS ONCE A MONTH AND THEN HAVE A SEPARATE SECTION WHERE WE COULD CALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WHERE IT CAN BE FOCUSED AND WE CAN ALL TAKE PART IN IT WITHOUT MAKING IT INTO A SHOW. THOSE ARE SOME OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS. >> COUNCILMAN GRADY. >> I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I SECONDED THE MOTION THAT WE PUT THIS ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. AS GINGERLY AS I CAN WALKING THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT -- AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DEPUTY MAYOR TU THAT THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE RELEVANT TO THE CITY AND THE DISCUSSION AND THE COMMENTS FROM OUR CITIZENS ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OUR CITY THAT WITH HE NEED TO REVIEW OR LOOK AT OR MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO. AS I CALL IT, COMIC RELIEF, AND THE USE OF DIAS FOR THAT PURPOSE IS JUST REALLY OUT OF THE BOX, AND I FIND IT AS AN EXTREME ISSUE. I AM ALL FOR PUTTING A DECISION TOGETHER OR A THOUGHT TOGETHER THAT WE GATHER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS INTO A SPECIALLY-CALLED MEETING. WE HAVE IT SOMEWHERE WHERE IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE WITHIN THE COURSE OF BUSINESS DURING THE DAY, AND WE CAN DETERMINE THE RELEVANCY OF THE COMMENTS TO THE CITY. CITIZENS THAT COME FORWARD NEED TO BE HEARD, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE REALLY STEPPING ON ANYBODY'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, BUT THERE COMES A TIME WHERE THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND TRYING TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT BEYOND THE OPE OF WT WE REALLY CAN ACT ON AND DO AND WHAT WE FACE AS A RELEVANT SUBJECT TO THE CITY. AS WE START OUR DISCUSSION AND THINKING ABOUT THIS, I'M REALLY FOR PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER WHERE WE ARE STACKING THIS INTO A DIFFERENT FORM AND MAKING IT MUCH MORE RELEVANT TO CITY BUSINESS SO THAT WE CAN DO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO OUR CITIZENS AND NOT A NATIONAL NETWORK. >> SHELBY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? >> YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK ANYONE KNOWS HOW ARDENTLY I DEFEND THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HEAR OUR CONSTITUENTS. WE HAVE AN WE DON'T HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO REQUIRE A PLATFORM FOR ENTERTAINMENT. WE OFFER A PUBLIC COMMEN SECTION EVERY MORNING IS A GOOD THING, AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE TRANSPARENCY TO THE CITY OF PLANO. I COULD GET BEHIND LIMITING THE DISCUSSION CONTENT TO ANYTHING THE CITY OF PLANO GOVERNMENT CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY HAVING A SPECIAL SESSION NO LESS FREQUENTLY THAN MONTHLY BECAUSE I THINK THE FACT THAT CITIZENS CAN COME SPEAK EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS IS IMPORTANT, BUT I COULD CONSIDER BOTH OF THOSE. I'M AFRAID THAT ANY RESTRICTIONS BEYOND THAT MIGHT BE A DECLARATION OF GAME ON, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABUSING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS MAY BE MOTIVATED TO GO FULL STEAM AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RICADELLI. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE WITH MANUFACTURE THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SO FAR. I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL ARDENT SUPPORTERS OF FREE SPEECH, AS WE SHOULD BE. MEANWHILE, THE PURPOSE OF A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS TO DO CITY BUSINESS, SO I THINK IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO LIMIT COMMENTS TO THOSE THAT ARE GERMANE TO CITY BUSINESS. I ALSO THINK DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU'S SUGGESTION ABOUT DECORUM AND A DRESS CODE MAKES SENSE. THAT WOULD INCLUDE NO COSTUME OR NO SWIM WEAR. I THINK THAT'S NOT ASKING MUCH. I THINK TO DINE IN MOST ESTABLISHMENTS IN OUR CITY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WEAR SHOES AND A SHIRT AND I THINK WE CAN EXPECT THAT FOR A COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL. I'M OPEN TO CONSIDERING A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT I WOULD REALLY SUGGEST THAT WE START WITH THOSE TWO SIMPLE CHANGES AND CONSIDER OTHER POTENTIALLY MORE SILL CHANGES TO FORMAT IN THE FUTURE -- I MAUNDERSTAND TH DESIRE TO MOVE TO MANICALLY, BUT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF LEGITIMATE CITIZENS THAT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT CITY BUSINESS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO CONTINUE THE INREST EVERY MEETING.OF PUBLIC ANYWAY, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. >> THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING? >> REGARDLESS WHAT DIRECTION WE GO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS KNOW WE ARE AVAILABLE BY EMAIL AT ANY TIME. YOU CAN CALL US. WE DO GET A LOT OF EMAILS, SO IF YOU DON'T GET A RESPONSE PROMPTLY, AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, I'LL SAY FEEL FREE TO SEND ANOTHER ONE JUST TO IRKMAKE SUR GOT IT, BUT WE ARE ACCESSIBLE AND FREE TO HEAR FROM YOU OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL. >> COUNCILMAN SMITH. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THE CITY AND THIS BODY TO BE HIJACKED BY THE JUVENILE ACTIONS OF SOMEONE WHO DECIDES TO COME HERE AND RATHER THAN TALK ABOUT SERIOUS BUSINESS, BUSINESS THAT AFFECTS THE LIVES AND JUST THE LIVING -- THE STANDARDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PLANO TO AFFECT WHAT WE DO. IF WE REACT, CHANGE THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR YEARS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? I JUST THINK LET THIS PLAY ITS COURSE. THIS IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF US AS A BODY OR AS A CITY. IT'S PURELY WHEN SOMEONE COMES AND PUTS AN ACT ON, IT'S ON THEM. IT HAS NOTHING -- IT'S NOT REFLECTING ON OUR CITY, ON THE PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR CITY OR THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE DO, BUT IF WE REACT TO IT, IT IS AFFECTING -- WE'RE SHOWING THAT IT DOES. I WOULD SAY LET THEM COME. THEY WANT TO COME WASTE THEIR TIME, HEY, I'M HERE. I'LL GIVE THEM THREE MINUTES, AND I'LL LISTEN TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FOOLISH NOT US. OF ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD, DOING -- IF WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING, I SAY DOING ONCE A MONTH WHERE WE DO A SPECIAL CALL SESSION, STILL ALLOW OUR CITIZENS TO COME AND LK, THAT'S GOOD, BUT I'M A FIRM BELIEVER -- I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD -- AGAIN, I USE THE WORD HIJACK. WE SHOULD NOT CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE BUSINESS FOREVER AS A RESULT OF SOMEBODY ELSE MAKING A FOOL OUT OF THEMSELVES AT OUR EXPENSE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I AGREE WITH SEVERAL COMMENTS OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DO AGREE. I TEND NOT TO BE A PERSON THAT LIKES TO JUST REACT TO SITUATIONS. I PREFER THAT WE BE STRATEGIC AND DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COUNCIL. I WILL SAY OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD, I PROBABLY AGREE MOST WITH THE COURSE THA COUNCILMEMBER RICIARDELLI PUT FORWARD OF LET'S LIMIT IT TO ITEMS THAT ARE CITY BUSINESS AND LET'S PUT SOME DIRECTION ON DRESS CODE DECORUM. AT THIS POINT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF DOING A SPECIAL MEETING. I THINK -- I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST MAKE THESE SMALL STEPS FIRST AND SEE HOW THAT IMPACTS US. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF. >> THANK YOU. I THINK WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA NEXT MEETING WITH THESE SUGGESTIONS, AND WE'LL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION COUNCIL-WIDE. >> REAL QUICK, FOR CLARIFICATION, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M GETTING IT RIGHT, I THINK THAT THERE WAS CONSENSUS, NOT UNANIMOUS, BUT FOR THE SPECIAL BASIS TO ALLOW ANY CITIZEN TO COME ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. I THINK I HEARD AT LEAST A CONSENSUS TO GO THAT ROUTE. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME PREFERENCES OTHERWISE, BUT THE PROTOCOLS FOR DECORUM INCLUDING DRESS AND THEN CITY BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M KIND OF SEEING HEAD NODS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSS. I'M SEEING SOME SAY NO AND SO, AGAIN, FOR CLARIFICATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS RIGHT AS WE BRING THIS BACK SO THAT THIS DOESN'T BECOME A PROLONGED DISCUSSION. >> I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. SAME HERE, JUST TO BE CLEAR. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT, BUT I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT FROM THIS ANDPOINT. THAT THE SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING COULD BE EVERY OTHER WEEK, AND IT SIMPLY IS MOVING -- IT'S SIMPLY MOVING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY TO A DIFFERENT PORTION WITHIN THE MEETING, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL IT'S SAYING. IT ISN'T THE CONTENT OF THE MEETING AND HOW THE MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED RATHER THAN MOVING IT TIE MONTHLY MEETING, LEAVING EVERY OTHER WEEK LIKELY WE HAVE TODAY, BUT SIMPLY MOVE IT WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGENDA. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT TOO. >> MAYOR. YEAH, SHELBY, GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TRY OUT COUNCILMAN SMITH'S RECOMMENDATION OF LETTING THIS PLAY OUT BEFORE WE MOVE THINGS TO A SPECIAL MEETING. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IF NEED BE. >> OKAY. >> OKAY, COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS. WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER, THINK FURTHER? AT THIS POINT WITHOUT CONSENSUS -- THE SPECIAL MEETINGS, AND I THINK THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT. SPECIAL MEETINGS DO NOT HAVE TO BE RECORDED SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE TELEVISED. THAT WAS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT -- >> WE DO HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE WANT IT TO FOCUS ON CITY BUSINESS CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. >> YEAH, WITHOUT QUESTION. >> WHERE DID YOU STAND ON THAT? I'M SORRY. >> YES, I AGREE WITH WHAT KAYCI JUST SAID. I AGREE WITH RICK AND THEN ABOUT RE-EVALUATING. >> I'M FINE WITH LET'S NARROW IT TO THE SCOPE BECAUSE IT IS FAIRLY BROAD. BASICALLY COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT TIDDLY-WINKS IF YOU WANT TO. LET'S MAKE IT SOMETHING NARROWED DOWN TO WITH WHERE IT AFFECTS CITY BUSINESS. NOT JUST ANY TOPIC IN THE WORLD. >> I WOULD LIKE IT ALSO TO BE A REQUIREMENT THAT WHOEVER COMES TO SPEAK IS A STAKEHOLDER IN THE CITY OF PLANO. CAN I DO THAT? RESIDENT OR -- NO. ACTUALLY -- I >> IT'S RELEVANT TO CITY. >> ANYBODY THAT'S DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY. >> A STAKEHOLDER. >> OR HAS AN IMPACT OR POSSIBLE BUSINESS. THAT'S A PRETTY WIDE STRETCH TO BE ABLE TO -- >> A BIG NET. >> I WOULD QUALIFY THAT TO SAY THAT ANYONE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH CITY GOVERNMENT. MIGHT NOT BE A RESIDENT, BUT THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE IMPACTED IN SOME WAY AND HAVE A CONCERN, BUT IT HAS TO BE WITH CITY BUSINESS. COUNCIL, CITY BUSINESS AND PROTOCOL FOR APPROPRIATE CLOTHING. THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE LIST. >> WHAT ABOUT -- WHAT ABOUT THE WHETHER IT'S EVERY MEETING OR ARE WE STILL DOING EVERY MEETING? >> FOR CITY BUSINESS AND CLOTHING IT WOULD BE -- OTHERWISE IT WLD BTAYING THE SAME. >> I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO REMIND OF THE RULES THAT WE HAVE. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED HAVE SIGNS. >> CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. ANY ITEM THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? >> IM D, MR. MAYOR. >> ITEM 6, COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND FUTURE AGENDAS. >> YES, MAYOR. I HAVE THREE ITEMS. >> GO AHEAD. >> THE FIRST AND THOUGH WE MAY HAVE PLANS FOR THIS, IF NECESSARY I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP SHARING THE RESULTS OF THE LISTENING TOUR THAT WE JUST REVIEWED WITH OUR RESIDENTS IN A VARIETY OF MEDIUMS RATHER THAN JUST THE COUNCIL OPEN MEETING. >> COUNCILMAN, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM. WE CAN JUST SHARE THAT PUBLICLY. >> OKAY. GREAT. SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE CAN AND AS A COUNCIL WHAT WE SHOULD BE RESTRICTED BY IN PROMOTING SUPPORT AND AWARENESS OF THE WAR IN UKRAINE. OBVIOUSLY,HATOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC GUARDRAILS. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL. THIS MIGHT BE AS SIMPLE AS LISTING REPUTABLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN PURSUE. >> I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CITY, CHURCHES, AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY SHOWING THEIR SUPPORT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHELBY IS GETTING AT. WE WERE AT A RALLY SATURDAY WHERE PEOPLE WERE THERE TO SHOW SUPPORT. I THINK FINDING OUT WHAT WAYS WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT. PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH REPUTABLE ORGANIZATIONS. MAYBE SOMETHING DO DO THROUGH ORGANIZATION OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT I AGREE WITH SHELBY THAT WE'RE SEEING AN OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT. I FEEL LIKE THE CITY OF PLANO SHOULD SHOW THEIRS AS WELL. >> THIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME AS I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN UKRAINE. >> THE THIRD ONE? >> I HAVE SPOKEN WITH A COUPLE OF YOU ABOUT THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE EFFECTIVELY RAMPING UP, BEEFING UP THEOLUNER IN PLANO PROGRAM IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE MIGHT CREATE A WORLD CLASS VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION OUT OF WHAT IS ALREADY A GREAT pVOL WE CAN OFFSET THE CURRENT CONFLAGSARY ENVIRONMENT. WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO HIT THE COST OF CITY SERVICES, INFLATION IS, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO HIT OUR RESIDENTS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE WAYS BY LEVERAGING VOLUNTEERS TO NOT HAVE TO HIT OUR CITIZENS WITH INFLATION.AX INCREASE ON TOP OF I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AT THE MEETING WE HAVE LATER THIS MONTH. SFWLA I'LL SECOND DISCUSSION OF LEVERAGING VOLUNTEERS EVEN MORE SO IN OUR CITY EFFORTS. MAYBE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WITH WHAT CAP DOES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. >> WE'LL DO THAT AT THE RETREAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I WAS JUST SECONDING THE AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND RETURN AT 7:00, WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT TWO MINUTES AWAY. (MU (MUSIC). >> I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS IS ON ZOOM. WE WILL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY SENIOR PASTOR CHRIS DOWD WITH CHRIST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY GIRL SCOUT SENIOR TROOP 3460 WITH CLARK HIGH SCHOOL. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE. >> LET US PRAY. GOD OF US ALL, IN THESE ANXIOUS TIMES WITH CONFLICT ABROAD AND CHALLENGES AT HOME, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THOSE THAT ARE CALLED TO ELECTED LEADERSHIP. TO SVE IN THE PUBLIC EYE AND G WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY, WE PRAY GOD THAT -- YOU CAN HELP US RISE AND AVOID PETTY PARTISANSHIP AND GUIDE US IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU AND WITH EACH OTHER. WE ASK, GOD, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THESE LEADERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, GUIDE JOHN, KAYCI, MARIA ANTHONY RICK SHELBY JULIE, AND RICK GIVING THEM YOUR WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS FOR PLANO. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY AND THAT YOU WOULD LEAD US BY YOUR GRACE TO LIVE LIVES PLEASING TO YOU. IN ALL THESE THINGS, GRACIOUS AND LOVING GOD, WE OFFER YOU OUR THANKS, OUR PRAISE, AND OUR DEV DEVOTION. AMEN. PL >> PLEASE JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AS WELL AS THE TEXAS PLEDGE. (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE). (TEXAS PLEDGE). >> THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. >> COME OVER HERE. THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. APPRECIATE IT. >> TODAY WE ARE HONORING NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL DOWN CAREENA SADLER WITH THE VOLUNTEER RESOURCES SUPERVISOR. EVERY YEAR THE CITY O PNO VOLUNTEERS DONATE COUNTLESS HOURS TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY WHEREVER NEEDED, AND THESE VOLUNTEERS GLADLY HELP IN OUR AREA WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS IN PLANO ENGAGES VOLUNTEERS REPRESENTING THE RICH DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY OF PLANO FROM SCOUTS TO OERLD ADULTS AND FROM LIFE-LONG RESIDENTS TO NEW ARRIVALS. ALL WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE SERVICE TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY. EREAVOLUNTEERS ENHANCE SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF PLANO RESIDENTS AND EXTEND CAPACITY OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. 6,354 DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS SERVE 33,500 HOURS WITH THE CITY OF PLANO IN 2021. VOLUNTEERS HAVE STRENGTHEN OURED COMMUNITY AND BECOME THE DRIVING FORCE FOR VOLUNTEERS IN PLANO TO REMAIN A MODEL MUNICIPAL VOLUNTEER PROGRAM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN B.MUNS, MAYOR OFHE CITY OF PLANO, DID HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 17th THROUGH THE 23rd, 2022, A NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK IN PLANO. I ALSO EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO ALL CITY OF PLANO VOLUNTEERS AND DO HEREBY ENCOURAGE SIT SGRENZ TO JOIN ME IN THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN HONORING THE THANKING ALL WHO VOLUNTEER, ESPECIALLY OUR CITY OF EXCELLENCE. CONGRATULATIONS. (APP (APPLAUSE). >> OKAY. FIRST ITEM, COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE CONVENT E SENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCILMEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZENS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITBASE UN THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCEPT FOR ITEM D, AS IN DELTA. SECOND. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM D. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES. HOW DO YOU VOTE, SHELBY? MOTION PASSES 8-0. THK YO ITEM D. ITEM D. TO APPROVE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A THIRD AMENDMENT TO A LICENSE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, AND AT&T CORP., A NEW YORK CORPORATION AND AUTHORIZING ITS EXECUTION BY THE CITY MANAGER AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. I PULLED THIS OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THE PRICE ESCALATOR IN HERE WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS EVERY TEN YEARS IS ONLY 3% EVERY TEN YEARS, AND IMPORTANTLY, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THAT'S NOT 3% PER YEAR. IT'S 3% TOTAL FOR TEN YEARS, MEANING IT'S ABOUT .3% EVERY YEAR OR REALLY SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE IT COMPOUNDS. IT'S PROBABLY ONE-QUARTER OF A PERCENT TO GET TO 3% OVER TEN YEARS GIVEN THE HIGH INFLATION ENVIRONMENT THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN. I THINK THE LAST NUMBER I SAW AND THIS MAY BE OLD, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 7.5%, SO BEING MORE IN THE RANGE OF 0.3% IS SO FAR BELOW INFLATION, AND REALLY BLOER INFLATION EVEN IN A LOW INFLATION ENVIRONMENT THAT OVER TIME THAT WILL BUILD IN JUST A BIGGER AND BIGGER DISCOUNT TO THIS AND, OBVIOUSLY, REVENUE THAT WE DON'T RECOVER THROUGH THIS CONTRACT BEING FAIR PRICE IS REVENUE THAT HAS TO BE BORN BY TAXPAYERS THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES OR SALES TAXES, SO I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRICE ESCALATOR IN HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING CITY POLICY REGARDING THE 3% PRICE ESCALATOR FOR EVERY TEN YEARS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TOGETHER ON A FUTURE AGENDA LOOKING AT THAT POLICY BECAUSE PARTICULARLY IN THE INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN, THAT'S JUST GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A SWEETHEART DEAL OVER TIME, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOCKING OURSELVES INTO 30 YEARS CAUSE THERE ARE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS AFTER TEN YEARS AND 20 YEARS. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK AT THAT. I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND LOOK AT THE PRICE ESCALATOR ON A FUTURE AGENDA. COUNCILMAN, WE'RE ONLY AGENDAIZED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR POLICY DECISION. >> I'LL JUST MOVE TO TABLE ITEM D TO A FUTURE AGENDA WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THE PRICE ESCALATOR ON THIS CONTRACT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ITEM D. HOLD ON. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM STAFF REGARDING THIS OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIME IN? >> WITH THIS AGREEMENT IT IS BASED OFF OF A PRICE SCHEDULE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THIS BODY A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. WE'RE HAPPY TO POLL OTHER CITIES AND SEE IF IT'S TIME TO UPDATE THAT, AND IF OUR PRACTICES ARE STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT IS PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS THE INDUSTRY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW USO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT THAT ANALYSIS, WE COULD BRING THOSE RESULTS BACK TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING AND THEN WE COULD DECIDE IF ACTION NEEDED TO BE TAKEN THAT THE POINT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY TIME SENSITIVITY TO THIS? >> WE HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH AT&T ON THIS ITEM. IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO MAKE A CHANGE, I WOULD -- I WOULD CONSIDER THAT THIS WOULD ALSO IMPACT FUTURE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE DO HAVE SOME TIME AVAILABLE CERTAINLY BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING THAT WILL IMPACT NEGOTIATIONS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE ITEM D IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. SHELBY. >> YES. >> MOTION PASSES 8-0 TO TABLE. >> NEXT ITEM AND ITEMS IN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. >> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSAR NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDE BE OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, THE LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE. AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2022-002 TO WAIVE THE 300-FOOT DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM ARCADE USE TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH AND AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS HERETOFOREAMENDED. GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 61 FOR ARCADE ON .1 ACRE OF LAND LOCATED 390 FEET EAST OF CUSTER ROAD AND 810 FEET SOUTH OF PARKER ROAD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, PRESENTLY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 90 RETAIL. DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, EXECUTIVES. I'M CHRISTINA DAY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. I'M HERE TO PRESENT ZONING CASE 2022-2 TO YOU THIS EVENING. IT IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC ARCADE. THIS IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CUSTER AND PARKER IN A LEASE SPACE IN AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICE BOUNDARIES AND THE ZONING -- ON THE ZONING MAP ON THE EXHIBIT BEFORE YOU. THE NEXT EXHIBIT SHOWS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT ALSO DESIGNATES THE LEASE SPACE, AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT IS A RELATIVELY SMALL AREA WITHIN THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. WITH REGARD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND YOU C S IT IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY CORNERS DID HES -- DESIGNATION. IT IS DESIGNATED IN RED, AND IT IS CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA AND DESIGNATION THERE TO THE SOUTH. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THE LAND USE IN HOUSING INVENTORY. THIS IS CLASSIFIED AS RETAIL. IT DOES CONFORM TO THE MIX OF USES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY CORNERS DASHBOARD. IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE MIX OF USES, NOR DOES IT REQUIRE FINDINGS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A TRANSFER OF RETAIL TO RETAIL. WITH THAT ARCADE USES DO REQUIRE SEPARATIONS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THERE ARE SEPARATIONS FROM RELIGIOUS FACILITIES. THAT'S A 300 FOOT SEPARATION. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO FACILITIES WITHIN 300 FEET. NOT REALLY AN ISSUE FOR THIS LOCATION. SAME WITH PUBLIC OR PAROCHIAL SCHOOLS. THAT'S 1,000 FOOT SEPARATION. AGAIN, THERE ARE NO FACILITIES THAT SHOULD SAY 1,000 FEET. ERE'S A RESIDENALEPARION THAT'S AT MINIMUM 300 FOOT SEPARATION. HOWEVER, THE RESIDENCES ARE TO -- IT SHOULD BE TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GRAPHIC THERE. THE FRONT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. THE DISTANCE WAIVER ALLOWS COUNCIL TO WAIVE THAT DISTANCE IF YOU FIND AS A BODY THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL OR INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR GENERAL WELFARE OR OTHERWISE OFFENSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S THE STANDARD WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS EVENING. GRAING THIS PERMIT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID FIND THAT THIS MET THAT STANDARD AND IS, THEREFORE, RECOMMENDING A WAIVER OF THE 300 FOOT DISTANCE. ONE OF THE REASONS THEY MAY HAVE FOUND THIS STANDARD IS THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK. WE GOT ONE LETTER SIGNED WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER THAT WAS IN SUPPORT. THE OTHERS WE DID NOT RECEIVE RESPONSES FROM OUR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE BUFFER OR FROM THE PROPERTY ITSELF. WE RECEIVE TWO TOTAL RESPONSE ON THIS ZONING CASE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN PLANO, BOTH IN SUPPORT. WITH THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY WITH AN 8-0 VOTE TO SUPPORT AND DOES RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL GRANT THE WARE REQUIRED ON THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS CASE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? >> GOOD EVENING. WE ARE BETH AND SEAN REYNOLDS, AND WE ARE CONTROL V VIRTUAL REALITY ARCADE FRANCHISEES. BECAUSE OF VIRTUAL REALITY ARCADE IS A NEWER CONCEPT, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOMMORE INFORMATION ABOUT US SO YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE'RE PROPOSING. CONTROL V WAS FOUNDED IN 2016 IN WATERLOO CANADA. OUR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO ACCELERATE THE ADOPTION OF AND PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS TO EMERGING IMMERSIVE TECHNOLOGIES AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE WITH UNSURPASSED CUSTOMER SERVICE. HOW DOES IT WORK? EACH USER IS GIVEN A HEADSET ALONG WITH A PAIR OF GOGGLES AND HEADPHONES ALONG WITH A MICROPHONE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER USERS AND TWO HANDHELD CONTROLLERS. THIS EQUIPMENT ALLOWS THE USER TO BE IMMERSED IN A 3-D COMPUTER SIMULATED ENVIRONMENT AND INTERACT WITH THAT ENVIRONMENT IN A VERY SEEMINGLY REAL WAY. EACH USER WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OUR EXTENSIVE GAME LIBRARY WHERE THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERIENCES. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN COOK FOR A RESTAURANT. YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN WORLDS AND UNIVERSE. YOU CAN EVEN USE A BOW AND ARROW TO DEFEND YOUR VILLAGE FROM AN ATTACK, DISSECT A FROG IN SCIENCE CLASS, DANCE ON A MOVING PLATFORM LIKE A SUPERSTAR, OR EVEN ROAM THE EARTH WITH DINOSAUR STHEEZ ARE JUST A FEW E OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. OUR LOCATION WOULD BE AT 300 CUSTER ROAD SUITE 250. IT WOULD BE IN THE PARKWOOD SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CUSTER ROAD AND WEST PARKER ROAD. OUR FACILITY WOULD BE 3,700 SQUARE FEET. IT WOULD HAVE 13 VIRTUAL REALITY STATIONS, A PARTY ROOM, TWO WASH ROOMS, AND WE DON'T SERVE FOOD OR DRINKS, BUT WE DO ALLOW OUR CUSTOMERS THAT RENT THE PARTY ROOM TO BRING THEIR OWN FOOD AND DRINKS FOR THEIRCELEBRATION. OUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 3:30 TO 9:30 P.M. TUESDAYS THROUGH FRIDAYS, 11:00 A.M. TO 10:30 P.M. ON SATURDAYS AND 11:00 A.M. TO 7:00 P.M. ON SUNDAYS. VIRTUAL REALITY GAMING IS CURRENTLY A $7 BILLION INDUSTRY AND IS EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE CONTINUED GROWTH. CURRENTLY THERE IS ONE VIRTUAL REALITY ARCADE IN FRISCO, AND ANOTHER ONE IN ALLEN, TEXAS. HOWEVER, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST VIRTUAL REALITY ARCADE IN PLANO, AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST CONTROL V FRANCHISE LOCATED IN THE STATE OF TEXA VING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT TO US. WE PARTICIPATE IN A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. FOR EXAMPLE, EACH YEAR WE TEAM UP WITH A CHARITY CALLED EXTRA LIFE AND RUN A VR GAMING MARATHON THE FIRST WEEKEND OF NOVEMBER. 100% OF THE PROCEEDS FROM THIS MAATHON ARE DONATED TO THE CHILDREN'S MIRACLE NETWORK HOSPITALS. WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY OF PLANO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DEPUTY MAYOR. >> HI. SOUNDS REALLYEXCITING, BY THE WAY, AND I WOULD LOVE TO COME AND VISIT ONCE IT'S UP AND RUNNING, BUT I WANTED TO ASK, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TARGETING FOR THE YOUNGER, I GUESS, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR ADULTS. >> WE TARGET BETWEEN THE AGES OF 8 AND 35. WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE CUSTOMERS UNDER THE AGE OF 8, BUT WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE 8 OR OLDER BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT WON'T FIT THEIR HEAD QUITE RIGHT, AND IT WOULD BE HARD TO WRAP THEIR HANDS AROUND THE CON. THEY WOULD HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE IF THEY WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND THE EQUIPMENT FIT THEM BETTER. >> A SECOND THING WOULD BE THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS ALCOHOL GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON THIS -- >> NO. ACTUALLY, WE HAD A CHANCE TO TOUR THE WATERLOO LOCATION, AND THEY SAID THAT'S NEVER EVEN COME UP BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S CHILDREN'S PARTIES. THEY BOOK THE PARTY ROOM. THEY DO HAVE CORPORATE EVENTS, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN THEY BOOK A CORPORATE EVENT, THE PEOPLE LEAVE AND GO OFF SITE TO CONTINUE CELEBRATING SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING PLANO TO BE THE FIRST LOCATION IN TEXAS. I APPLAUD YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AS WELL. THAT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR. SO YOU SAID 3,700 SQUARE FEET AND 13 INDIVIDUAL ROOMS. >> THEY'RE STATIONS. THEY HAVE THREE FOAM-PADDED WALLS AND A FOAM-PADDED FLOOR, AND SO IT GIVES THEM A BIG PLAYING SPACE. IT'S 10 FEET BY 10 FEET. THEN THEY HAVE A MUCH LARGER ROOM THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT. THAT'S THE PARTY ROOM, AND THEN THE TWO WASH ROOMS, OBVIOUSLY. >> THE STATIONS ARE THREE WALLS. ONE PERSON PERSTATION? >> YES. THAT'S HOW IT WOULD NORMALLY WORK. >> HOW LARGE IS THE PARTY ROOM? I HAVE TEENAGE BOYS. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. (LAUGHING). FUTURE CUSTOMER. >> I DON'T REMEMBER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE PARTY ROOM. I'M SORRY. PROBABLY AT LEAST 13. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS? >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >> YOU HAD TO SIGN IN. SIGN UP. (OFF MICROPHONE). >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO MORE COMMENTS. I'LL LEAVE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE. PLEASE VOTE. >> SHELBY? >> S. MOTION PSES 8-0. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION -- >> NO. SORRY. >> GO AHEAD. I GOT TO OPEN. >> LISA HAS TO START. >> ITEM NUMBER TWO. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE 2021-2022 ACTION PLAN TO AMEND THE CITY OF PLANO HOME OWNERSHIP VALUE LIMITS FOR USE IN LIEU OF THE LIMITS PROVIDED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT WHEN USING HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> FROM STAFF -- SINCE WE NOTICED THIS, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE WAS ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. OTHERWISE, STAFF RECOMMENDS TO TABLE UNTIL MAY 5th. THAT' >> THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >>HERERE N SPEAKERS. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE SECOND INDIVIDUAL ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION TO MAY 9th. >> SECOND. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. PLEASE VOTE. SHELBY. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO TABLE 8-0. THANK YOU. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS ESE EMS BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH THE MICROPHONE OR YELL INTO IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND ALL OF THOSE SPEAKERS, THE CITY OF PLANO AND THE COUNCIL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS VERY SERIOUSLY. WE ALWAYS WELCOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE CAN BE BETTER. WE TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR ROLE AS CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RESPECTING OUR CITIZENS' TIME AND TAXPAYERS' RESOURCES. WE STRIVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES IN EXCELLENCE AND FOCUS OUR AGENDA ON CITY BUSINESS, AND IN RETURN WE ASK THAT THOSE THAT COME BEFORE US PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT. TONIGHT WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS. EACH SPEAKER HAS ONE MINUTE. WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PERIOD OF OUR MEETING, AND WE WILL MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT IT AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT FOR TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU, AND YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK. WE'LL ASK THE FIRST PERSON. >> DAVANTE PETERS. DAVANTE PETERS. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS J.V.T. >> I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK, BUT I'M J.V.T., AND I'M HERE TO BEG ALL OF YOU DO NOT CALIFORNIA MY TEXAS. I'M AN AMERICAN, A PATRIOT, AND A TOBY KEITH FAN. I'M ABOUT AS TEXAN AS IT GETS, AND CALIFORNIANS ARE MOVING TO TEXAS AND RUINING EVERYTHING. I MEAN, THEY'RE TEACHING GENDER PRONOUNS IN FIRST GRADE. WHY DON'T WE FOCUS ON TEACHING FIRST GRADERS THE IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE READING, WRITING, SHOOTING A GUN. I'M GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE AND THE END BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE ONE MINUTE. THERE ARE CALIFORNIANS IN DISGUISE LIKE BETA O'ROURKE. HIS REAL NAME IS ROBERT, BUT I CALL HIM BOB. BOB CANNOT CONFISCATE MY EPZ WEAPONS AND MY HUNTING RIFLE. I WILL QUOTE ONE OF MY PROFESSORS FROM MY THIRD YEAR OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE. IF I DESCRIBED A PLACE WHERE ONLY THE RICHEST COULD AFFORD HOUSES AND THE POOR PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU THINK IT WAS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY OR SAN FRANCISCO? TO THAT I SAY PLEASE DON'T CALIFORNIA MY TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SHARON OVERALL. >> RECENTLY YOU ALL PROBABLY HEARD OF THE SENIOR LIVING CENTER WHERE OVER 100 ELDERLY PERSONS LOST THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF A CIGARETTE BUTT. THAT PERSON SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH ARSON OR AT THE LEAST NEGLIGENT ARSON. IMINE THAT YOU LOST ALL YOUR BELONGINGS AND MEMORIES BECAUSE OF A SMOKER. THE NUMBER FOUR CAUSE OF FIRE IN A HOME IS A CIGARETTE. EVERY NIGHT SINCE THE THROWING OF CIGARETTE BUTTS OUT OF THE WINDOW OF A VEHICLE IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF WILDFIRES, SO INSTEAD OF GIVING A LITTER TICKET TO THOSE WHO DISCARD THEIR CIGARETTES ON THE STREETS OR SIDEWALK, THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED ARSON. ALL IT TAKES IS FOR THE CIGARETTE BUTT TO HIT THE GRASS ON A PIECE OF PAPER TO IGNITE A FIRE. THE PLANO POLICE SHOULD DRIVE AROUND IN AN UNMARKED CAR A FEW DAYS A MONTH AND CATCH THESE PEOPLE. NINE OUT OF TEN PEOPLE WHO ARE DANGNG THE CIGARETTE BUTT OUT OF THE WINDOW WILL IMMEDIATELY THROW IT OUT WHEN THEY ARE FINISHED. THEY NEED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. LITTERING IS NOT THE ONLY CRIME THEY ARE COMMITTING. EVERY DISCARDED CIGARETTE BUTT IS A POTENTIAL ARSON. THANK YOU. >> MARTHA MASON. >> EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ IT NOW, THIS BOOK. I AM MARTHA MASON OF THE U.S. ARMY. DENSE SYSTEMS, BUT MORE MISLE IMPORTANTLY, MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE AND HER, AND I AM A WOMAN OF COLOR. >> HEY, QUIT SCREAMING. >> LASTLY, IF YOU CARE ABOUT OUR DEMOCRACY, YOU WILL SIGN -- (SIL (SILENCE). >> A WOMAN OF COLOR. LOOK AT ME. BLACK LIVES MATTER. I CAN'T BREATHE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YOU GUYS ARE COWARDS. >> ALEXANDRER STEIN. LISTEN, I PREPARED A WHOLE SPEECH, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, MAYOR MUNS, YOU'RE A COWARD. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE STREISAND AFFECT. YOU LIMITING FREE SPEECH, YOU PROVED WE AFFECTED YOUR WHOLE MEETING. YOU HAVE SUCH PATHETIC COWARDS. YOU ARE SCARED OF GIVING PEOPLE THREE MINUTES TO TALK. I'M THE ONLY REASON PLANO IS GETTING ANY ATTENTION. I'M THE REASON YOU'RE TRENDING ON TWITTER. YOU CAN'T EVEN REALIZE THE ATTENTION MIGHT HELP YOUR CAMPAIGN. INSTEAD, YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH BACK AGAINST IT AND WE'RE GOING TO PUBLICLY EMBARRASS YOU, MAYOR MUNS, WORSE THAN YOU'VE BEEN PUBLICLY EMBARRASSED. IF THERE'S ONE SKELETON IN YOUR CLOZ ETD, I'M GOING TO PUBLICLY EMBARRASS EACH MEMBER HERE. ANTHONY IS PRETTY OKAY, AND RICK IS OKAY TOO. I'M TELLING YOU, JULIE, YOU'RE TOAST. MARIA, YOU'RE TOAST. MARK, YOU'RE TOAST. ALL YOU GUYS, PUBLICLY YOU'RE GOING TO GET EMBARRASSED IN THIS MEETING. I DON'T CARE IF I GOT ONE MINUTE OR THREE MINUTES. I'M GOING TO COME UP HERE AND I AM GOING TO DISGRACE THE CITY OF PLANO BECAUSE I HAD SOME RESPECT FOR IT, BUT OUR POLITICIANS, YOU GUYS THINK WHEN YOU GET ELECTED THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WORK FOR YOU. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, BUCKO. YOU ALL WORK FOR US. MARIA, YOU WORK FOR ME. THAT'S LIKE YOU GOT ELECTED, BUT YOU TOO DUMB TO REALIZE THAT. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YOU GUYS HAVE T BIN CELLS TO RUB TOGETHER, AND NOW YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE. YOU'RE TOAST, MAYOR MUNS. YOU'RE TOAST. YOU'RE DONE. I'M GOING TO PUBLICLY EMBARRASS YOU WORSE THAN YOU'VE EVER BEEN EMBARRASSED YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE. I HOPE YOU HAVE NEVER HAD A DIVORCE. >> YOUR TIME IS UP WHERE. >> IS IT UP? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, MUNS. I CAN'T HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A COWARD. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE LAST OF PRIMETIME 99. YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE. YOU'RE FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE. >> PLEASE. THE PARTY HAS JUST BEGUN. >> JAMES LOCKRIDGE. >> HELLO, MR. MUNS. >> YOU'RE DONE, BUDDY. SEE YOU SOON. I'LL SEE YOU EVERY WEEK. >> I'LL BRING MORE PEOPLE TOO. DON'T WORRY. >> I APOLOGIZE. >> YOU'RE FINE. >> MR. MAYOR, I'VE TRIED TO TALK TO YOU AND I HAVEN'T HAD A PHONE CALL. THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL. I WOULD LOVE TO VISIT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND BOTH OF Y'ALL AT SOME POINT IN TIME. YOU HAVEN'T RESPONDED. RIGHT HERE IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY THE SECTION C -- EXCUSE MY GLASSES HERE. NO NUISANCE ACTION CAN BE BROUGHT AGAINST AN AGRICULTURE OPERATION THAT HAS BEEN LAWFUL FROM ONE YEAR-TO-DATE WHICH IS THE LAWS THAT YOU ENFORCE ON THE AMERICAN FARMERS AND RANCHERS. WE WERE HERE LONG BEFORE YOUR LAWS. WE'RE GRANDFATHERED IN. IT SAYS IN THE CODE SECTION 251.004, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT LAW IS. Y'ALL CANNOT ENFORCE TEXAS FARMERS AND RANCHERS TO MOW ANYTHING OR ENFORCE A CROP. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO US IF WE WERE HERE LONG BEFORE YOUR LAWS WERE PASSED, WHICH I WAS. 1994. THEREFORE, I ASK YOU TO VISIT WITH ME ON THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. >> PAT GREER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK. I'M PAT GREER. I'VE LIVED IN PLANO OVER 40 YEARS. I'M ASSOCIATED WITH PLANO CITIZENS COALITION, AND ON BEHALF OF THAT ORGANIZATION AND PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACTS OF TRANSPARENCY RECENTLY IN GETTING PNZ INFOR-- P & Z INFORMATION I HANDS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE CLICK OF A COMPUTER. I DO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNED. (ADJOURNED 7:38 P.M. CS