. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE THE I THINK VOCATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME OUR GOOD FRIEND HARRY COHEN. THE HONORABLE HARRY COHEN SERVED AS A MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS REPRESENTING DISTRICT 4. WE KNOW HIM VERY WELL FROM HIS SERVICE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND SERVE AS A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONER JUST DOWN THE STREET. HARRY'S FAMILY HAS BEEN IN TAMPA FOR DECADES AND ALWAYS INVOLVED. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME UP HARRY COHEN -- COMMISSIONER HARRY COHEN TO GIVE THE INVOCATION AND PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLIAEALLEGIA >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. AND I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PRAY WITH ME. GOD OF HOLINESS, WE HEAR YOUR MESSAGE. JUSTICE, JUSTICE, YOU SHALL PURSUE. GOD OF FREEDOM, WE HEAR YOUR CHARGE, PROCLAIM LIBERTY THROUGHOUT THE LAND. INSPIRE US THROUGH YOUR TEACHINGS AND COMMANDMENTS TO LOVE AND UPHOLD OUR PRECIOUS DEMOCRACY. LET EVERY CITIZEN TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS WE CHERISH. LET US EACH BE AN ADVOCATE FOR JUSTICE, AN ACT VEST FOR LIBERTY AND A DEFENDER OF DIGNITY AND CHAMPION THE VALUES THAT MAKE OUR NATION A HAVEN FOR THE PERSECUTED. A BEACON OF HOPE AMONG THE NATIONS. WE PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY WITH SELFLESS DEVOTION FROM PEACE TO WAR FROM CLINICS TO CLASSROOMS, FROM GIFT TO THE GRASS-ROOTS. ALL THOSE WHOSE NOBLE DEEDS AND SACRIFICE BENEFIT OUR NATION, OUR WORLD AND OUR CITY. THANK YOU. AMEN. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COMMISSIONER COHEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WHILE YOU ARE HERE, A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE. I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR YOUR ADVOCACY ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON OUR TRANSPORTATION AND OUR ROAD PAVING. >> OCTOBER 1. THE MONEY IS YOURS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT GONE UNNOTICED. VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE AND IT IS WELL NOTICED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND GLAD THAT YOU ARE SITTING THERE BEING A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR PAVING. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: GUIDO MENTIONED YOU HAD DISTRICT 4. BIG SHOES YOU HAD TO FILL THAT HAD TO STEP INTO. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOUR OFFICE DOES COORDINATE FROM MOSQUITOES AND ROADS AND YOUR OFFICE WORKED QUICKLY WITH US IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU. OUR DISTRICTS OVERLAP, A LOT OF THEM DO. AND IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A WONDERFUL REST OF THE DAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. OKAY, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HELLO. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS ONLINE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HI, EVERYBODY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. PER YOUR CAN WE HAVE A VOTE TO ALLOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND 37. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, THE AYES HAVE IT. GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME APPEAR REMOTELY. I HAVE BEEN CLEARED FROM COVID, BUT I STILL JUST WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS. SO I AM AT HOME TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS SOMEBODY SITS ELBOW TO ELBOW TO YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR CAUTIOUSNESS. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMBERS OF PUBLIC HERE TODAY. JUST TO REMIND YOU THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT JUST SO YOU KNOW. YES, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU MEAN PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU MEAN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE START OF THE MEETING. IS THAT WHAT -- >>BILL CARLSON: THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM BUT NOT AT THE BEGINNING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM. AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY. WE WILL START OFF WITH A CEREMONIAL OF THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE PRESEN PRESENTATION. >> GOOD MORNING. BUENO DIAS. MY NAME IS MELISSA MARTINEZ. I AM THE CHAIR OF THIS MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE. WE ARE HERE WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO INVITE YOU TO THIS YEAR'S 37th ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION AT THE FRANKLIN STREETER ON FRANKLIN STREET AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING. OUR GUEST SPEAKER MR. TO TONY ZAVALO, CEO OF EAST RECYCLING. WE HAVE OUR EMCEE AGAIN, CARMEN RIVERA FROMI HEART 106.5. AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR ENTERTAINMENT. BY POPULAR DEMAND, BACK THE PROJECT -- THE A 13 PROJECT AND OUR DANCE SUPERSTARS. THIS IS A FREE EVEN. AND THE FIRST 200 PEOPLE WILL RECEIVE BAG LUNCHES AT THE END OF THE EVENT. SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY [SPEAKING SPANISH] A PLEASURE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE HISPANICS OF TAMPA YEAR OF A YEAR AND A GREAT JOB YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAM. >> MUCHO GRACIAS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGENDA REVIEW. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA TO TAKE CARE OF? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE. IS IT YOUR ATTENTION WORKING WITH THE STAFF, ANY PARTICULAR ORDER IN WHICH YOU WOULD WISH TO TAKE THESE ITEMS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE ONE MODIFICATION. WE HAD A MEMO FROM MISS FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ABBYE FEELEY DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITY. I PUT IN A MEMO TO HEAR THE TAMPA HOPE REPORT AS THE FIRST ITEM NOW AFTER THE HISPANIC HERITAGE CEREMONIAL ITEM. AS MAGGIE ROGERS, THE CEO OF CATHOLIC CHARITY IS HERE WITH ME THIS MORNING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION WITH YOU. IN ADDITION WHEN WE SET THE WORKSHOP UP WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY LAND DEVELOPMENT RELATED TODAY, I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH MISS CROSBY AND MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ. IF POSSIBLE, WE WOULD MOVE ITEM 3, SENATE BILL 180 THAT GOES REALLY WITH ALL THE TEXT AMENDMENT DISCUSSIONS MAYBE AFTER THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESS THE AND THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN. THAT WOULD BE ONLY OTHER THING. BECAUSE THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN ARE TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE NOT INTERTWINED WITH THE CODE AMENDMENT DISCUSSIONS. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT BRANDON AND HIS TEAM IS HERE FOR THE MULTIMODAL. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION IF COUNCIL WAS OPEN TO THAT IN LOOKING AT HOW THE AGENDA ITEMS WENT IN THIS MORNING. >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO MOVE 3 TO AFTER NUMBER 5. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO 3 TO AFTER NUMBER 5. AND THEN A MOTION TO MOVE 5 TO BE HEARD FIRST. WITHOUT OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO MOVED. SO WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AN ITEM NUMBER 5 FIRST. AND 3 WE WILL MOVE AFTER NUMBER 4. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT ACTUALLY SURE WHY THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN AND HOPE REPORT WENT TOGETHER. THEY ARE NOT RELATED .BUT WE WILL JUST PULL THE TAMPA HOPE REPORT OUT OF 5 NOW. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CLERK. IF NOT, WE CAN DO -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO SEPARATE THOSE ITEMS. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. OPPOSED? COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN, WAS THAT ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN ON-BASE. WAS EVERYTHING UPLOADED OR ARE YOU GIVING A CONDENSED REPORT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE ARE GIVING A CONDENSED REPORT. EVAN JOHNSON IS HERE TO DO THAT. THE FULL REPORT IS ON OUR WEB SITE BUT I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LEAVE COASTAL ACTION PLAN WHERE IT IS OR COMBINE IT WITH ITEM 1. >>LYNN HURTAK: LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL DO THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN AFTER ITEM 3 NOW. OKAY, VERY GOOD. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER CURTISS AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. LET'S START WITH HOPE. LET THERE BE HOPE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON TAMPA HOPE, PLEASE, IT WOULD BE UNDER ITEM 5. IF NOT, I DO HAVE A HARD COPY. THE REPORT ON TAMPA HOPE THIS MORNING -- I WILL JUST WAIT JUST A MINUTE. SORRY, I KNOW I MESSED THINGS UP FOR THEM BACK THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ALONG WITH CONNELLY HENRIQUEZ HAD MADE A REQUEST TO HAVE A REPORT FOR TAMPA HOPE. MANY OF I KNOW THAT TAMPA HOPE IS AN OPERATION WE ARE IN APPLICATION WITH PARTNERSHIP ON AND MAGGIE RODGERS IS HERE WITH ME OUT OUT OF ADAMO DRIVE AND 34th -- ACTUALLY 39th. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT THE CITY WORKED WITH SHORTLY AFTER COVID. IN COVID, KAYON HENDERSON ACTUALLY WORKED TO SET UP A HILLSBOROUGH HOPE ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE. AND AT AT THIS TIME, IT WAS OPEN FOR ABOUT 60 DAYS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST 210 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND ACTUALLY GET 97 OF THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WE HAD A DISCUSSION THAT IT WAS TIME FOR US TO WORK TO SET UP A MORE PERMANENT LOCATION. THIS WAS RIGHT AS I WAS COMING BACK TO THE CITY IN 2020. WE HAD TO LOOK HARD TO FIND A PROPERTY THAT MET THE NEEDS OF THIS FACILITY, AS WELL AS BASS IN -- WAS IN A LOCATION THAT WAS WITH TRANSIT, A METHOD TO GET TO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE DID PARTNER ON SETTING UP TAMPA HOPE, WHICH OPENED IN DECEMBER OF 2021. WHEN WE OPENED, IT WAS 100 TENTS, INDIVIDUAL TENTS, AS PART OF THE MODEL OF TAMPA HOPE TO GIVE PEOPLE PRIVACY FOR THEIR BELONGINGS AND FOR THEM TO FIND REFUGE AND WRAP-AROUND SERVICES TO SERVE THEM. TAMPA HOPE TODAY HAS 235 BEDS WHICH INCLUDES 125 TENTS AND 99 COTTAGES. AS MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN, WE MOVED TO A COTTAGE MODEL THAT IS A PREFAB TYPE OF COTTAGE. SEVERAL OF THE COTTAGES HAVE TWO BEDS. MOST OF THEM HAVE ONE BED. SINCE OPENING IN 2021, WE HAVE SERVED OVER 1550 CLIENTS. AND THAT INCLUDES 563 OF THEM THAT WENT TO PERMANENT HOUSING. THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF DAY RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 116 DAYS. AS YOU KNOW AND MANY OF YOU WERE OUT EARLIER WITH THE MATTHEW 25 CENTER OPEN AT THE FACILITY. AND THAT REALLY HAS MORE PERMANENT BATH AND SHOWER FACILITIES. IT HAS LAUNDRY FACILITIES. IT HAS A KITCHEN. MANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT OVER THE YEARS SINCE WE STARTED HAVE BEEN IN MORE TEMPORARY TYPE FACILITIES. WE HAD PORTABLE SHOWERS. WE HAD OTHER FACILITIES THERE. SO NOW THAT HAS OPENED AS WELL. WE ARE WORKING TO HAVE BY THE MIDDLE OF 2026, MORE THAN 300 BEDS. TO BE EXACT, IT WILL BE 365 BEDS, ONE BED FOR EACH DAY OF THE YEAR. AND THE FACILITY HAS CONTINUED TO PROVIDE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES, INCLUDING AN ON-MED FACILITY, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MOMENT, WHICH OPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2024. SO THE ON-MED FACILITY PROVIDES -- IT IS REALLY NEAT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE IT. CLIENTS CAN GO IN. AND THEY CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO A VIRTUAL PHYSICIAN. AND THEY CAN BE ASSESSED AND HAVE OTHER MEDICINES AND THINGS DISPEN DISPENSED TO THEM. THIS CUT DOWN TO THE FACILITY'S CALLS BY 911 BY 50%. THIS IS REALLY REMARKABLE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO. OTHER FACILITIES OFFERED THERE INCLUDE CASE MANAGEMENT, FINANCIAL LITERACY AS IT SAYS, AA MEETINGS, BIBLE STUDIES. OUR APPROACH IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH. NOT JUST ABOUT HOUSING SOMEONE. IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED ALSO. THIS IS JUST A QUICK LOOK OF THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED SINCE WE OPENED OUR DOORS. IT DEFINITELY HAS GONE UP AND BEEN STEADY. JUST TO TALK OF THE ON-MEDICARE STATION WHICH I MENTIONED. IT OPENED IN OCTOBER OF 24. IT SERVED 123 CLIENTS SO FAR. AND AS I MENTIONED IT REDUCED THE 911 CALLS FROM TAMPA HOPE BY 50 50%. WE -- THIS MODEL THAT WE ARE USING HAVE BEEN SEEN BY MEAN COMMUNITIES. WHEN WE HAD THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE HERE, WE PROVIDED A MOBILE TOUR UPCOMING WITH ICMA. A MOBILE TOUR FOR LAST MONTH, A DELEGATION FROM ATLANTA CAME WITH OVER 50 MEMBERS OF THE DELEGATION TO SEE THE MODEL WE ARE USING. IT HAS ALSO BEEN FEATURED ON CNN. WE REALLY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND THE MODEL WITH PINELLAS HOPE WHICH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW OVER 15 YEARS TO HELP AND PROVIDE SERVICES IN A WAY THAT IS JUST NOT ABOUT FINDING HOMES FOR PEOPLE, BUT IT IS ABOUT FINDING THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A MORE HOLISTIC LEVEL OF CARE. SO IN OCTOBER, TAMPA HOPE REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE PRESENTING IN SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO, AS WELL AS AT THE FLORIDA NETWORK TO END HOPELESSNESS CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO. SO IT IS REALLY A GREAT FACILITY. I THINK WHEN THIS MOTION CAME UP, IT WAS LIKE, OH, WE HAVE THIS FACILITY. WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT. LET'S SHARE SOME OF THIS, NOT ONLY WITH THE COUNCIL BUT WITH THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING. MAGE IS HERE TOO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND BRINGING AWARENESS OF WHAT TAMPA HOPE IS BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. IT IS BAFFLING THAT IN 2025 IN THE UNITED STATES, WE STILL HAVE HOM HOMELESSNESS AND PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY AND FANCY TERMS LIKE HOUSELESSNESS. PEOPLE ARE STILL ON THE STREET. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY RENT. I THOUGHT AS A KID IN MY LIFETIME I WOULD SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT THIS PROGRAM THAT OTHER PLACES ARE WANTING TO COPY, MIRROR, EXPAND AND USE, IT HELPS. GIVES -- IT OFFERS HOPE. THE NAME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, BUT IT KEEPS PEOPLE OFF THE STREET, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY'S SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SPEAK TO A PHYSICIAN OR MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED LIKE HAVING AN ID. THEY MAY NOT HAVE MONEY. I THINK IT IS $25 TO GET AN ID. TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY. IF THEY ARE SICK, THEY JUST STAY SICK. BUT WHAT THIS DOES AND CHEAT BENNETT HAS ALWAYS MENTIONED THIS AND I TALKED TO HARRY HEDGES -- YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO HIM THE OTHER DAY. THIS IS AN AMAZING PROJECT. THIS IS TEMPORARY. I KNOW IT IS NOT PERFECT. IT MAY NOT BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING HELPED. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE, AMONGST MANY THINGS, IS THE CLIENT. WHEN IT IS COLD IN THE WINTER, PEOPLE WILL COME DOWN HERE AND AN INCREASED NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET BECAUSE YOU WILL DIE OUT IN THE COLD AND THE SNOW IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. AT LEAST WE ARE DOING SOMETHING. WE NEED TO FURTHER EXPAND THAT. BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPACTFUL. LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN HELP, FOR NOT A LOT OF MONEY. SO THIS IS -- THIS IS GREAT. THESE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND I AM GLAD WE HAVE BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO OTHER PLACES. THE MAYOR OF ATLANTA WAS HERE AND CAME DOWN WITH A DELEGATION OF 50. YOU TALKED OF OTHER PLACES. WE HAVE BEEN FEATURED ON NATIONAL NEWS. THESE ARE GOOD THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS. HE PUT TOGETHER THE ONE IN PINELLAS AND TOOK THE LEADERSHIP ROLE HERE, PULLING TOGETHER I THINK EVERY DEPARTMENT, THE CITY AND THEN LOTS OF CHARITIES AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO WORK ON IT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DEFINITELY NEEDED AND TO FILL THE GAP IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU TO ALL THE NONPROFITS AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WHO LED ON IT. MY QUESTION IS, I AM GETTING MORE COMPLAINTS THAN EVER ABOUT PEOPLE -- PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING OR ARE ON THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY FOLKS WHO ARE SOLICITING DONATIONS ON THE STREETS. AND PEOPLE LIVING IN PARKS AND FORESTS. WE HAVE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A FOREST IN SOUTH TAMPA AND MOVE TO ANOTHER FOREST AND ANOTHER FOREST. AND SO DO -- YOU OR CATHOLIC CHARITIES. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE THAT? THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, OR PEOPLE REFUSE TO GO TO ANY KIND OF HOUSING OR THEY WANT TO LIVE ON THE STREETS. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT? THANK YOU. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I CAN GIVE A PRELIMINARY ANSWER TO THAT SAND THEN ASK MAGGIE IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE HER INSIGHTS ON THAT. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WE HAD A CALL -- MY DAYS RUN TOGETHER BUT BY THE END OF LAST WEEK THAT WE ARE SETTING UP A QUARTERLY -- HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAVE AN OUTREACH TEAM. MAGGIE HAS AN OUTREACH TEAM WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES. WE LOOK FOR THOSE HOT SPOTS. WE WORK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENTS. OUR GOAL NEXT MONTH AND I INVITE TO YOU COME AND LISTEN TO PULL TOGETHER EVERYBODY WHO IS DOING SOMETHING AND TALK MORE THOROUGHLY ABOUT THE QUESTION YOU JUST RAISED. WHAT COULD WE BE DOING DIFFERENTLY? HOW COULD WE BE DOING MORE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE EMPLOY THAT? WE ARE ON THAT AS WELL AND I AM HAPPY TO SHARE BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ADD THAT TAMPA IS BETTER THAN MOST CITIES. I FORGOT THE NUMBERS I HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS. ATLANTA HAS 50,000 ON THE STREET. NEW YORK HAS 120,000 AND L.A. 770,000 OR 80,000. YOU MAY KNOW THE NUMBERS. ENORMOUS NUMBERS AND I THINK OUR WHOLE CENSUS IS A FEW HUNDRED. BUT IN THESE OTHER PEOPLE THEY ARE SEEING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREETS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: MAGGIE. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS, ALL OF THE ABOVE. BOILS DOWN TO COMMUNICATION. FOR US, YOU KNOW, IT IS SENDING ME A TEXT MESSAGES. THIS IS WHERE I AM HEARING A LOT THE HOT SPOTS ARE. THESE ARE THE COMMUNITIES REACHING OUT TO ME SAYING EVERY SINGLE DAY I AM SEEING THIS. AND WE CAN DEPLOY OUR OUTREACH TEAMS THERE. CAPACITY IS ALSO AN ISSUE. STARTED OFF AT 100. NOW AT 235. IN 2026, WE WILL TAKE IT TO 365. MY GOAL IS 400. MAYOR CASTOR MAY TRY TO PUSH ME A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT IT IS ALSO THE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES. ALL OF US COMING TOGETHER, HAVING THE OPEN DIALOGUE, LOOKING AT FOR THE HOT SPOTS AND WHERE TO DEPLOY THE SERVICES. WORK WITH THEM ON THE STREET AS WELL AS WHEN THEY ARE WAITING TO GET TAMPA HOPE. >>. >>BILL CARLSON: STATE YOUR NAME. >> MAGGIE RODGERS, DIRECTOR OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN I ADD WHAT MAGGIE SAID, THE NEW OPPORTUNITY WITH MATTHEW 25. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE -- AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO REMAIN UNHOUSED. THAT IS THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE. AND WE RUN INTO SOME OF THAT. I THINK MAGGIE SEES THAT TOO. PEOPLE COME INTO TAMPA HOPE MAY NOT BE FOR THEM BUT THEY MAY BE BACK AGAIN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT IS THE ORGANIZED FEEDING OR THE ORGANIZED MEALS ELSE THAT ARE PROVIDED OUT .MAGGIE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN PINELLAS HOPE, THEIR KITCHEN -- THOSE GROUPS GO TO THE KITCHEN AND THE MEALS ARE PROVIDED THERE VERSUS MEALS BEING PROVIDED A HOCK ON THE STREET IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BY OTHER CHURCH ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHERS. AND NOW BY THE NEW FEEDING TAMPA BAY FACILITY, WE CAN HAVE A MORE ORGANIZED WAY BECAUSE A LOT OF US KNOW THAT IF PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY CAN FIND A MEAL AND THEN REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE, EITHER IN THE ENCAMPMENT OR THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THAT IS REALLY NOT HELPING US HELP THEM SOLVE THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT ARE AROUND THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES. SO DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF WHAT YOUR PLAN IS FOR THAT? >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE BUILD A SHIP WHILE WE ARE AT SEA. ONE OF THE THINGS I AM PROUD YOU HAVE TO START SERVICES IMMEDIATELY OUT THE GAIT. I WAS CALLED NEW MARCH OF 2020 TO OPEN HILLSBOROUGH HOPE ON FLORIDA AVENUE, WE HOPED SHAH SHELTER IN SEVEN DAY. OPENED TAMPA HOPE IN THE EAST OF YBOR AREA, WE CLOSED IN NOVEMBER OF '21. WE OPENED IN DECEMBER OF '21. SOMETIMES THAT IS WHY OUR MODEL LOOKS A LITTLE WONKY. DISASTER SHOWER TRUCKS AND WE ARE BUILDING THE SHIP WHILE AT SEA. WHEN YOU FLASHFORWARD WE BUILT THIS MATTHEW 25 WITH THE GRACIOUS DONATION OF THE PELEBAY FAMILY OF $1.5 MILLION. LAUNDRY SERVICE, RESTAURANTS, A FULL COOKING KITCHEN, DINING AREA. AND ALSO HAS BARBERSHOP, A CLOTHING CLOSET, OFFICES, A VENDING MACHINE ROOM. SOME NOW THAT BUILDING OPENING UP, WE CAN THEN DEPLOY OUR DISASTER TRUCKS AND DISASTER SERVICES ELSEWHERE IN OTHER LOCATIONS DOING THE SERVICE AND ALSO IT PROVIDES THE CLIENTS THE OPPORTUNITY -- THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE RESOURCES AND WE CAN THEN INCREASE OUR BEDS WHILE WE HAVE 235, WE HAVE JUST PLACED ANOTHER 90 COTTAGES SITE ON-SITE. WE ARE WORKING TO ADD THE COTTAGES TO TAKE OUR BED COUNT TO 365. AGAIN, WE START OFF QUICK, BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING THE SHIP WHILE WE ARE AT SEA. AND THOSE SERVICES, WE JUST CONTINUE TO ADD. WE DO. WE REALLY ENCOURAGE PARTNERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WHILE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE DOING IT FROM A PLACE OF KINDNESS AND THEIR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, WE ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO FEED OUT ON THE STREET AND COME TO US AND PROVIDE THE MEALS TO HUNDREDS PEOPLE ALL AT ONE TIME. WHEN YOU FEED OUT ON THE STREET, YOU ARE ON THE SAME STREET CORNER. HOMELESS STAY THERE AND KNOW THE SERVICE WILL COME TO THEM AND HAVE ENCAMPMENTS IN YOUR AREA THAT AREN'T LEAVING. WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME TO US AND FEED AT THAT LOCATION. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ADD. I HAVE SEVERAL GROUPS WHO CLAIM THEY GOT WARNING FROM TPD. ONE GROUP THE OTHER DAY SAID THEY GOT -- I DON'T THINK IT WAS A FINE BUT A WARNING FROM TPD. AND THEY SAID THAT TPD OFFICERS SAID, WE DON'T REALLY DOE THIS, BUT THE CITY FORCES US TO TELL YOU THE NEXT TIME YOU WILL BE FINED OR WHATEVER. I SENT THEM TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE AND THHI. IF CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS A BETTER PLACE, WE CAN DO THIS. WISH -- MAYBE BE THIS EVENT YOU HAVE COMING UP, THERE ARE SO MANY INDIVIDUAL SMALLER GROUPS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD, CHURCHES AND OTHERS. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF SOMEBODY WENT THROUGH AND MINED THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO FIND THEM AND PROACTIVELY TELL THEM AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE CERTAIN TPD OFFICERS IN THE AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE HANDING OUT FOOD. HELPFUL IF THEY HAND OUT A FLYER SAY -- WE HAVE THESE INTEGRATED SERVICES. AND I THINK ONE PERCEPTION IS THAT GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO LIMIT PEOPLE'S FREEDOM TO HELP PEOPLE. BUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING, THE SIMPLE MESSAGE IS, FOLKS NEED MORE THAN JUST FOOD AND WE ARE PROVIDING A RANGE OF SERVICES TO HELP THEM GET BACK TO THEIR REGULAR LIVES. THE MORE WE CAN ALL BE INTEGRATED THE MORE WE CAN HELP THEM GET BACK THERE. ANY WAY WE CAN HELP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CALLED OUR MUTUAL FRIENDS LAST NIGHT AND I THINK THE ISSUE WAS TEMPORARILY RESOLVED. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. LISTENED TO PART OF THAT WHICH IS PART OF ME BEING LATE. SHOUT OUT TO ABBYE FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT DO YOU AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT WHO THIS IS ONE OF HIS GREAT CHARITIES. JOHN BENNETT IS MORE CATHOLIC THAN POPE. AND PREACH ALWAYS IF AND SPEAK IF YOU HAVE TO. HE ALWAYS HAVE DONE THAT AND VERY APPRECIATIVE. WE ARE APPRECIATIVE FOR THE WITNESS OF CATHOLIC CHAMP CHARITIES IN TAMPA. >> THANK YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: I SAY THAT AS A CATHOLIC. POLITICALLY -- I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE POLITICALLY A BLEEDING HEART KATHIC. UNAPOLOGY GET TYPICALLY. THE WITNESS DO YOU FROM PEOPLE. ONCE YEARS AGO, WE HELP PEOPLE NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE CATHOLIC BECAUSE WE ARE CATHOLIC. >> THAT IS OUR SAYING. >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO. SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE. IMPORTANT TO BE THERE FOR PEOPLE AND FEED NOT JUST THE STOMACH BUT TO HEAL THE HEART. JOURNEYS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS CAN BE VERY COMPLICATED. THERE IS A LOT HURT. THERE IS A LOT PAIN. AND GOVERNMENT CAN FEED THE STOMACH, BUT GOVERNMENT CAN'T HEAL THE HEART AND WHAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOURS IS HERE FOR. ON A LARGER BASIS, STATE-WIDE AND EVEN ON A COUNTY BASIS, I LOOK AT PROGRAMS THAT HELP PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SEEN. I ALWAYS SAY THIS, THE ROLE OF POLITICS TO SEE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SEEN. AND PEOPLE HWHO ARE HOMELESS. PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. TAKE THE HART BUS. AND PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT SEEN BY OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND A JOB BY THE THOUGHTFUL PERSON OR THE PERSON OF FAITH, THE MIGRANT WORKERS, FARMWORKERS, DEMONIZED REFUGEE IS SEEN. AND WE ARE SEEING A TREND IN OUR COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CUT BACK ON PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD AND ONLY WANT DIGNITY. BY DIGNITY I MEAN A GOOD HOUSE. I MEAN PUBLIC EDUCATION TO HAVE UPWARD MOBILITY. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES SO THEY CAN GO FORWARD. HEALTH CARE WHEN THEY GET SICK. ISSUES LIKE THAT. FOR ME ON A LOCAL BASIS, THAT IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, WHICH IS PROVIDING DIGNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO LIVE AND WANT TO BE EMPOWERED WITH THE TOOLS THAT THEY CAN HAVE TO SURVIVE. A LOT THESE FOLKS ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH SOMEBODY, TO SHARE THEIR HEART AND TO GOD WILLING FIND A PATHWAY BACK TO DIGNITY AND WHAT YOU ALL DO AND THAT IS WHAT THE CHURCH IS FOR, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU. WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES. THE WORD "HOPE" IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR TITLE. WITHOUT HOPE, THERE IS NO F FUTURE. WITHOUT HOPE, THERE IS NO IMPETUS FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, HE, SHE OR I OR ANYONE ELSE TO SAY I CAN MAKE IT. ONCE THEY HAVE THAT BLANK ABOUT, I CAN'T MAKE IT, THEN YOU CAN'T MAKE IT AT ALL. I AM GLAD YOU ARE GIVING PEOPLE A HAND UP INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MISSING IN LIFE. WHEN YOU LOSE THAT IDEALISM THAT THERE IS NO HOPE OF GETTING OUT WHERE YOU ARE AT, YOU ARE A WALKING DEAD. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOUR CATHOLIC CHARITIES ARE DOING. YOU ARE THE LEADER OF THE OPERATION. I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT JOHN BENNETT. HE IS UP 6, 6:30 IN THE MORNING TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE STREET. >> HE ALWAYS TEXTS ME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE IS DOING IT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. SHOWING THAT THE CITY WANTS WANTS TO HELP OUT. EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO HELP OUT. THANK YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR DOING WHAT YOU CAN. IN FACT, THE 400-SOME-ODD PEOPLE JUST SCRATCH THE TOP OF THE EARTH. WHAT IS REALLY COMING, NOW THAT THE WINTER IS COMING, YOU ARE GOING TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE AND YOUR DESIRE A NEED. I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AND AM HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK BOTH MISS FEELEY AND MISS RODGERS FOR THIS PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO TAMPA HOPE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU VISIT. A PHENOMENAL FACILITY AND I AM VERY SORRY I WASN'T TO BE TO BE THERE MONDAY FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING -- OR RATHER THE RIBBON CUTTING. MISS FEELEY I WANTED TO BE ADDED TO THAT CALL THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. LET HIS SHARPE KNOW ABOUT THAT. ALSO I THINK THE GREATEST TAKEAWAYS WILL BE SPEAKING WHAT FOLKS CAN DO. SO IF YOU SEE SOMEONE -- I KNOW THAT WE -- IF SOMEONE CAN SPEAK OF THE HOMELESS LIAISONS WE HAVE BOTH IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND TPD, JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THIS FACILITY THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS RUNNING SO WELL. WE ALSO HAVE -- YOU CAN'T JUST SHOW UP AT TAMPA HOPE AND BE LET IN. THERE IS -- THERE IS A PROCESSES TO IT. AND IT IS -- IF ANYONE CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THAT WAY THE HOUSING HOTLINE IS A WAY TO REACH OUT. HOW DO PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND MIGHT NEED A PLACE, HOW DO THEY REACH OUT? HOW DO THEY GET CONSIDERED FOR A SPOT AT TAMPA HOPE? >> YOU WANT ME -- >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN TALK OF THAT. >> TAMPA HOPE, OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND THIS IS HOW IT MIMICS. I HAVE SEVEN HOMELESS SHELTERS AND FOUR HOPE PROJECTS, AND THEY ARE ALL SOMEWHAT SIMILAR. ENTRY TO ONE OF OUR HOPE IS ONLY BY AN OUTREACH TEAM. WE DO THAT OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ON SAINT MEMBER OF TAMPA HOPE TO THINK THAT BY CAMPING OUTSIDE OR CLOSE TO TAMPA HOPE GIVES YOU THE UPPER NEXT STEP IN. SO WE ONLY ENCOURAGE OUR OUTREACH TEAMS, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF TAMPA OUTREACH TEAM OR THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES TEAM. THEY ARE MEETING FOLKS AND BRINGING THEM TO US ON INTAKE DAY. WE DO INTAKE ON TUESDAY. -- MAIN INTAKE ON TUESDAY AND TUESDAY AND THURSDAY CITY OF TAMPA CAN BRING PEOPLE IN WITH OPEN BEDS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO ADD THROUGH OUR HOUSING FUND AND OTHER COMMITMENTS, THE CITY NOT ONLY HAS COMMITMENTS WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES BUT WITH METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES AND SALVATION ARMY. SO OUR HOUSING OUTREACH TEAM IS OUT IN THE CITY EVERY DAY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TPD. WE DO REFERRALS TO OTHER FACILITIES AS WELL. YES, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF ANYONE HAS OR WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, THEY CAN USE THE HOUSING HOTLINE AS A POINT OF ENVY TO SHARE WITH OUR TEAM -- POINT OF ENTRY TO SHARE WITH OUR TEAM. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO NEED ASSISTANCE. SOMETIMES WE GET TEXTS OF PEOPLE'S NAME AND PHONE NUMBERS. SOMETIMES CALLS TO THE HOTLINE. MULTIPLE THREAD HOUSE PEOPLE CAN BE ASSISTED. AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION COMING UP, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE BETTER INTERFACE. IS IT AN AMALIE -- AN APP OR SOMETHING ON OUR WEB SITE AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH SOMEBODY BE WHO COMES INTO CONTACT WITH ASSISTANCE. WE CAN PROVIDE THAT MORE DIRECTLY. ONE THING THAT MAGGIE MENTIONED AND WE DO IT -- IT IS VERY ORGANIC IS THE WAY TO CLASSIFY IT. IT IS ORGANIC, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE CAPACITIES AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS JUST SO IMPORTANT. NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED, FED, CLOTHED, FEELING BETTER, MOVING ON TOP, YOU KNOW, BECOME WHO THEY CAN BE. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK MISS RODGERS. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME OTHER PLANS POSSIBLY FOR THAT SITE MOVING FORWARD IF YOU WANT TO SHARE SOME OF THE GOALS FOR -- -- ABBYE FEELEY IF YOU DON'T, IF IT IS MORE TO COME. SAY MORE TO COME TOO. >> RIGHT NOW I PLAN TO ADD A MEDICAL CLINIC ON-SITE. WE WILL BE EXPANDING WITH THE ON MEDITATION. I HAVE TWO MORE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE BUILT THERE. A WELCOME CENTER WHERE WE MOVE THE MED ROOM OVER THERE, AS WELL AS A DEDICATED INTAKE ROOM TO DO LARGER INTAKES AT ONE TIME. AND THEN ADDITIONAL STAFF OFFICES. I ALSO CREATED OUR OWN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SOME WE WILL OUR OWN ON-SITE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE TREATMENT PROGRAM. MAYBE MORE BED. GIVE ME MORE LAND, I WILL BUILD MORE HOUSING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS QUESTION I GET FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT IS NOT MY QUESTION. THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE STREETS ARE FROM OTHER CITIES. AND EVEN AN EFFORT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN YBOR CITY WHERE SOME BUSINESS OWNERS GAVE AWAY ONE-WAY BUS TICKETS TO HELP PEOPLE GET TO WHEREVER THEY ARE FROM. DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT? THHI DOES A SURVEY OF PEOPLE ON THE STREET? IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DO NOT BELIEVE -- I HAVE HEARD THAT ALSO. I HAVE HEARD, OH, CHICAGO SHIPS THEIR PEOPLE HERE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE. BUT IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE TRACK BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING PROGRAMS FUNDS THAT THIS COUNCIL, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, WE DO REUNITE A LOT OF FAMILIES. I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME THIS MORNING, BUT THAT IS ONE OF OUR OPTIONS WHEN WE DO OUTREACH. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, DO YOU HAVE FAMILY THAT WE NEED TO CONTACT THAT WE COULD REUNITE YOU WITH IN ORDER TO GO BACK TO THEM. SO WE DO WORK ON THAT DIRECTLY. AND I THINK -- I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE WHAT OUR REUNIFICATION NUMBER IS. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU FROM THE FUNDS THAT WE AS THE CITY DOES. I WILL LET MAGE SPEAK TO THAT. >> WE DON'T SEE AN INCREASED NUMBER THAT THEY ARE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO IS COMING TO TAMPA HOPES HAS BEEN ON THE CITY FOR FIVE YEARS. THAT FLUCTUATES BETWEEN THREE AND SEVEN. FIVE IS A GOOD NUMBER TO SAY SAFELY. BUT, NO, WE DON'T SEE THEY ARE COME OTHER AREAS. WE HAVE SEASON, REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WE ARE ABLE TO HELP THEM BUILD A BRIDGE WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBER THAT BE IS IN NEW YORK OR WHEREVER, CATHOLIC CHARITIES WITH OUR UNRESTRICTED DOLLARS, WE PAY FOR THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR FAMILY ONCE WE CERTIFY WE WOULDN'T SEND THEM INTO HOMELESSNESS ELSEWHERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF POSSIBLE, WITHOUT MENTIONS THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS, WHERE THEY COME FROM. HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN HERE. >> WE DO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOUR FACTS 100% -- I MENTION MORE COMING IN THE WINTER, MAYBE I AM WRONG. WHAT I HAVE BEEN SEEING AND READING. I WANT TO CLEAR UP THE SITUATION TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE TO SAY WHAT I HEARD AND READ THAT YOU SENT THIS TO US AT THE END OF THE WINTER SEASON. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE DO AN INTAKE ASK WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN. THIS IS ALSO THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE LINE UP TO COME TO TAMPA HOPE THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING THAT OUR OUTREACH TEAM -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T NEED NO NAMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST FOR OUR PURPOSES. >> SURE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE IS A NATIONAL SYSTEM UNDER WAY THEIR INFORMATION DOES GO IN. SO MISSING VETERAN BENEFITS AND THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THROUGH THEIR SERVICE AND OTHER THINGS, THAT IS ALL IN THAT SYSTEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT. APPRECIATE IT. -- I HAVE SEVERAL REQUESTS TO GET THIS OUT ON A TIMELY MATTER IF WE ARE PONTIFICATING. I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY REGISTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO SAID THEY WANTED TO COMMENT ON EVERYTHING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. DID YOU SIGN UP. THE PERSON WITH THE HAND. GO UP AND LAND UP BEHIND IS IT HE KNEE POYNOR. WE HAD SIGN-UP SHEETS OUTSIDE. IF DID YOU NOT SIGN UP, GO OUTSIDE AND GET YOUR NAME ON THE SIGN-UP SHEET FOR ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. >> GOOD MORNING, STEP STEPHANIE POYNOR. MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE HOMELESSNESS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THESE LADIES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WHEN YOU SET UP A LOCATION, THEY FLOCK TO IT. A PROBLEM AT THE CIVIC CENTER WHERE WE HAD A FOOD PANTRY AND WE ENDED UP WITH A HUGE POPULATION OUT THERE. WHAT I HAVE SEEN ON THE TIME WHEN LISA CHESHIRE WAS ON THE STREETS AND WE HAD A PRETTY ACTIVE HOPE ON THE HORIZON IN SOUTH TAMPA, THOSE SAME 40 OR 50 FOLKS ARE STILL OUT THERE NOW. NOT NECESSARILY A LOT THEM ARE BY CHOICE. YOU SEE THE SAME ONES OVER AND OVER AND OVER. AND EVEN THE ONES THAT GET HOUSING, YOU STILL SEE THEM ON THE STREET. THEY HAVE HOUSING AND CAN GO HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY BUT THEY WANDER THE STREETS ALL DAY LONG. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT TO PEOPLE, IT IS ILLEGAL TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE GARBAGE CAN. ONE OF THE REASONS THEY LEAVE GARBAGE EVERYWHERE WHICH DRIVES PEOPLE CRAZY IS THAT THEY CAN'T PUT GARBAGE IN GARBAGE CANS AND DON'T HAVE GARBAGE BAGS, LISA CHESHIRE WOULD SAY WE GOT TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS AND HAND TO YOU WILL BARGAIN BAGS. KNOW IT IS NOT A BAD THING TO GIVE SOMEBODY. IF YOU GIVE THEM FOOD, GIVE THEM A GARBAGE BAG TO PUT IT IN. IDENTIFY A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER THEIR GARBAGE CAN FOR WASTE FOR A HOMELESS PERSON. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD NECESSARILY BE A BAD IDEA. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND HOW THINGS NEED TO BE DONE. SO I REALLY WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >> SURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM JASON RICKMAN. ME AND MY BUSINESS PARTNER DO HOUSING FOR HOMELESS. RECENTLY RELEASE INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND MY ONLY COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO THIS IS KNOWING WHERE TO FIND THE RESOURCES BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE COME OUT OF POCKET TO DO A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND IT IS DIFFICULT. THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2, THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE. >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT. WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF THE POTENTIAL INCREASE OF THE MULTIMODAL FEE WHERE INTEREST HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY SEVERAL COMMUNITY STAKE-YEAR-OLDS INCLUDING THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND OTHERS. THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO INFORMATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO TAKE ACTION, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS ON REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS. I HAVE WITH ME THIS MORNING, EMMA GREGORY WHO WILL BE COMING TO DATALK TO US FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK. AND CATHERINE TELLUS FROM OUR CONSULTING FIRM FAIR AND PETERS. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EMMA. >> EMMA GREGORY: GOOD MORNING, EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. FIRST THING TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF 163. 8101. LAW THAT HAS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO IMPOSE IMPACT FEES AND ALSO TELLS US HOW WE HAVE TO ADMINISTER THEM AND HOW WE CAN RAISE THEM. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. IMPACT FEES CAN BE CAN'T BE RAISED MORE THAN ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. THEY HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY AN IMPACT FEE STUDY WHICH IS BASED ON RECENT AND LOCALIZED DATA. LAW PROVIDES THERE ARE PHASE-IN LIMITATIONS FOR PROPOSED INCREASES. ZERO TO 25% INCREASE WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN TWO EQUAL ANNUAL INSTALLMENTMENTS. 26 TO 49% IS FOR EQUAL INCREMENTS. AND THEN IT SAYS THAT IMPACT FEE CANNOT BE RAISED OVER 50%; HOWEVER, IT ALSO PROVIDES A METHOD TO RAISE THEM OVER THAT THRESHOLD IF THE CITY PRESENT A DEMONSTRATED NEEDS STUDY, HOLDS TWO WORKSHOPS ON -- WHETHER OR NOT EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST TO JUSTIFY AN INCREASE. WE NEED A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. ONCE JANUARY 1 COMES, WE NEED A UNANIMOUS VOTE. TODAY IS THE FIRST OF TWO WORKSHOPS TO EVALUATE IF EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST. THIS -- WE ARE HOLDING THIS TODAY TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL THE MOST FLEXIBILITY POSSIBLE BE IN DECIDING WHAT INCREASE IS PROPOSED. THIS DOESN'T LOCK US INTO ANYTHING; HOWEVER, IF CITY COUNCIL DID WANT TO EVALUATE AN INCREASE OVER 50%, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THESE WORKSHOPS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AND CATHERINE PEARCE FROM -- CATHERINE TELLUS WILL BE GOING OVER THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE WILL BE RIGHT HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, EMMA. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. CATHERINE TELLEZ, A PRINCIPAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. SOME THERE WE GO. THIS MORNING WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE UPDATE AS WELL AS DISCUSS THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. BEEN WE GET INTO THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, I WANT TO REITERATE A FEW THINGS WHAT AN IMPACT FEE IS, AND WHAT IT IS NOT. AN IMPACT FEE IS ASSESSED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT ON NEW DEVELOPMENT TO HELP FUND THE COST OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT DEVELOPMENT. FEES ARE TYPICALLY PAID AT THE TIME A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED, AND ARE DESIGNED TO OFFSET THE IMPACTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. THIS FEE WOULD ONLY APPLY TO NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IF IT INTENSIFIES THE LAND USE ON A SITE. IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO EXISTING RESIDENTS. THE PURPOSE OF THE IMPACT FEE EXISTING RESIDENTS DO NOT PAY FOR THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FOR DEVELOP TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. THIS FEE CAN ONLY BE USED TO FUND CAPACITY EXPANSIONS ON THE SYSTEM AND CANNOT BE USED TO FIX EXISTING DEFICIENCIES ON THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. FEE COLLECTED MUST BE RELATED TO IT THE IMPACT ON THE PROBABLY. IMPACT FEES HAVE BEEN AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR QUITE A WHILE ESTABLISHED IN THE MID-1980s. FEE WAS LAST SET IN THE 1989. IN 2002, SEVERAL NO IMPACT FEE ZONES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED. THOSE EXPIRED IN 2023. AND THEN. THIS 2014, THE FEE WAS TRANSITION FROM A ROADWAY I PACT F -- IMPACT FEE TO A MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE AND THE FEE WAS THE SAME AS 1989. THE CITY IS TAKING A STEP TO UPDATE THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE TO REFRESH ALL THE CALCULATIONS BASED ON THE COST TO CONSTRUCT INFRASTRUCTURE AND REFLECT CHANGES IN TRAVEL PATTERNS OF FUTURE RESIDENTS. SO A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS THAT DEVELOPERS PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT. ONE OF THEM THROUGH THE PAYMENT OF THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE. SECOND IS ALSO PAYMENT OF PROPORTION OF MITIGATION FEE THAT IS ESTABLISHED BASED ON A PRETTY DEE DETAILED TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND SOME DEVELOPMENT ARE ALSO CONDITIONED TO INSTRUCT IMPROVEMENT AROUND THEIR SITE. SO EMMA REALLY WENT INTO ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT, BUT REALLY WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE LEGISLATURE FIND THAT IMPACT FEES ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF FUNDING FOR CITIES TO PAY FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND SOME OF THE OTHER KEY ITEMS IS IS THAT IT SHOULD -- MUST BE BASED ON RECENT DATA. AND THEN THE IMPACTS MUST BE PROPORTIONATE -- THE FEES MUST BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE IMPACTS. EMMA IS TALKING THROUGH THE PHASE AND LIMB D-- LIMITATIONS O WE WILL SKIP OVER THOSE ONES. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE PHASE AND LIMITATIONS INCLUDING A DEMONSTRATION OF A NEEDS STUDY TO SHOW WE NEED TO INCREASE IT GREATER THAN THOSE PHASE AND LIMITATIONS. HOLD TWO PUBLICLY NOTICED WORKSHOPS WHICH WE ARE AT TODAY. AND THEN THE TWO THIRDS VOTE. WHAT ARE THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE ARE FACING? THE FIRST THAT THE FEE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1989. FEES ARE LOW COMPARED TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. COST TO CONSTRUCT TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE HAS INCREASED AT A MUCH FASTER PLACE THAN OVERALL INFL INFLATION. POPULATION AND JOBS ARE INCREASING IN THE CITY. OVERALL DEMAND FOR MULTIMODAL TRAFFIC INCREASES. IN IT THE CITY OPERATING AT OR ABOVE CAPACITY LEVELS ARE ALSO INCREASING AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE DECREASING. I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE IN JUST A LITTLE MORE -- MORE DETAIL. SO REALLY THE CONSEQUENCE COUNTY FEE HAVING NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1989 IS THE LOSS TO UP NATION. THE PURCHASING POWER OF THE FEE WHEN IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN IT IS TODAY .THIS ALSO MEANS THAT DEVELOPERS ARE INCREASE LEAGUE NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ALSO NOT KEEPING PACE WITH THE FEES OF NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION AND OTHER FEES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ARE FL-- REFLECTING THE I TRAVEL AND CONSTRUCTION TRENDS. THE AMOUNT OF TV COLLECTED IN -- FEE COLLECTED IN 1995 CAN NOW ONLY CONSTRUCT .128 LANE MILES OF NEW CAPACITY. THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT INCREASES OF POPULATION AND JOBS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA. WITH THE GROWTH OUTPACING STATEWIDE AVERAGES. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR THAT GROWTH TO CONTINUE. ALSO I WANT NOTE THAT THE CITY IS PRETTY EFFECTIVE THAT THE CITY IS GROWING OVER THE LAST 20, 30 YEARS ADDING MORE PEOPLE IN JOBS AND A DECREASE OF VEHICLE MILES OF TRAVEL ON A PER CAPITAL BASIS. PEOPLE THAT NOT ONLY LIVE IN TAMPA BUT WORK IN TAMPA AS WELL. IT SHOWS WITH THE PRIOR INVESTMENTS, THE CITY HAS BEEN GOOD STEWARD OF FUND OF BUILDING THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE NUMBER OF ROADWAYS THAT ARE INCREASINGLY ABOVE CAPACITY OF INCREASING AND ANTICIPATE TO GROW WITH ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE DECLINING AND BECOMING INCREASINGLY UNCERTAIN. SO AS VEHICLES BECOME MORE FUEL EFFICIENT, AS MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES COME ONLINE. WE ARE GAS TAX REVENUES ARE STARTING TO DECLINE. NO CONSENSUS OF HOW TO BACKFELL SOME OF THOSE REVENUES. IN SUMMARY, A NUMBER OF EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT PROVIDE THE DEMONSTRATED NEED TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE OF THE FEES BEYOND THE PHASE-IN LIMITATIONS SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO DO SO. CURRENT FEE ESTABLISHED IN 1989. NOT BASED ON THE MOST CURRENT AND LOCALIZED DATA. 18% OF THE PURCHASING POWER WHEN IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED. FEES ARE LOW WITH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES INCLUDING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IS PROJECTED OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE SHARE TO PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THEIR FUTURE RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES. CITY IS ABLE TO BE GROW IN AN EFFECTIVE MAN WE ARE TRAVEL PER CAPITA IS DECREASING. INVESTMENT IN A MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE. BUT CONGESTION WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE UNLESS ADDITIONAL MULTIMODAL INVESTMENTS ARE MADE AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE INCREASINGLY UNCERTAIN SO WITH THAT, A FEW NEXT STEPS. WE ARE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN IN OCTOBER. AND SO WE WILL PRESENT SOME OF THE SAME INFORMATION. BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO, WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU BACK AT THAT TIME. ALSO BRING YOU AN UPDATED FEE SCHEDULE WITH A FULL MEETING WITH ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS. FEE NEED TO BE ADOPTED OVER TWO READINGS, AND THE FEE WILL GO INTO EFFECT 90 DAYS FOLLOWING THE SECOND READING. WANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND LISTEN TO YOUR FEEDBACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE,ED TO IS TO GET A CON ESSENTIAL GUS THAT WE HAVE EXTRA ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. >> EMMA GREGORY: JUST TO CONSIDER THEM. WHETHER ANY FEEDBACK YOU MAY HAVE ON WHAT MISS TELEZ JUST PRESENTED. THE UNDERPINNINGS OF THAT, HOW YOU FIND THEM. RATHER A CONSIDERATION WHETHER THESE EXIST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE WORKSHOP AND OTHER DECISION POINTS AND OTHER SUBSEQUENT THINGS WILL HAPPEN AT WORKSHOPS AND HEARINGS. >> EMMA GREGORY: WE ARE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO ANY REGULAR COUNCIL MEET GOING YOU WANT US TO DISCUSS IT THEN BY MOTION. AND SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO ADOPT AN INCREASE WE WILL DO THAT BY ORDINANCE AND WOULD BRING IT FOR FIRST AND SECOND READING AND THOSE WILL BE -- THE SECOND READING WOULD BE THE DECISION POINT -- AND THE FIRST READ GOING WE DON'T GET THE VOTES AT FIRST READING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE COUNCIL PERSONS ASK QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS IN ON THE EXTRA ORDINARY CONSEQUENCES. COUNCIL MEMBER IS MIRANDA. AUTHENTICITY MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON THIRD. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FROM 1989, IT ALSO A NOT BEEN TOUCHED? 36 YEARS? >> YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN 1989, I WAS STARTING KINDERGARTEN. TAMPA IS NOT THE SAME CITY AS IT WAS IN 1989. WE HAVE GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY. WE -- WHATEVER THE WORD IS, WE -- WE WASTED 36 YEARS WITH NOT ADDRESSING -- THINGS HAVE GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE AND TAMPA HAS GROWN, THE FEE HAS STAYED THE SAME. COSTS -- $1 35 MILLION IN LOST REVENUE BECAUSE THE FEE HAS STAYED THE SAME. THESE ARE A COUPLE OF MY THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. ONE, WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE RISEN SIGNIFICANTLY, ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID. AND COSTS ARE GOING UP MORE BECAUSE NEW TARIFFS IN PLACE THAT ARE AFFECTING PEOPLE. THE SUPREME COURT WILL HEAR AN APPEAL IN OCTOBER FOR THE TARIFF SITUATION AT A FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT IT HAS AFFECTED PEOPLE. MULTIMODAL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU JUST WIDE ROADS OR INVEST IN STREETLIGHT SYNCHRONIZATION TO GET THE TRAFFIC FLOWING MORE SMOOTHLY OR PAVE THE ROADS OR INVEST IN TRANSPORTATION. I TOOK THE BUS HERE THIS MORNING. AND IT WAS SO EASY, YOU KNOW. BUT I ALSO WITNESS THE LACK OF INVESTMENT ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE RELY ON OUR CARS. THE PEOPLE ON THE BUS ARE HARD WORKING GETTING TO WORK. GETTING TO WORK MIGHT BE EASY BUT HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS TO GET BACK. HAVING TO GO TO THE MARION TRANSIT CENTER, CONNECTING. AND GETTING SOMETHING ELSE. POINT I AM MAKING IS, WHEN I THINK OF THIS MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE, WHAT IS THAT MONEY GOING TO BE INVESTED TOWARD. REAL SOLUTIONS, MOVING PEOPLE AROUND AND INVESTING IN TRANSPORTATION? WILL IT BE PAYING ROADS? BUILDING SOME SIDEWALKS? IS IT GOING TO BE IMPROVING A.D.A. CONSTRUCTION AT INTERSECTIONS? IS IT STREETLIGHT SYNCHRONIZATION? THAT IS ONE THING. THE SECOND THING -- HOW IMPACTFUL -- IF WE ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THESE FEES BECAUSE IT IS A 36-YEAR DEFICIT. LIKE THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU, UP CREASED 900% JUST LIKE. SO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS NOT FEEL A MAJOR IMPACT WITH ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS I MENTIONED WHY THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. WAY TONIGHT GET ALL THE INFORMATION AND DATA THAT WE NEED. IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE ANYTHING, A 1%, 10%, 20%. HOW MANY MONEY WILL BE GENERATED .WILL THAN ENOUGH AND BE IMPACTFUL. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. WE PAY TAXES. WE PAY FEES ON A LOT OF STUFF. THE GENERAL PUBLIC -- AND MYSELF INCLUDED -- WILL THAT MONEY BE USED WHAT IT IS MEANT TO BE USED FOR. EMMA AND I MET YESTERDAY AND HOW THE GOVERNMENT RAIDS SOCIAL SECURITY. WE WORRY ABOUT, ARE IS SOCIAL SECURITY GOING TO BE THERE BECAUSE BORROWED AGAINST AND USED TODAY ARE OTHER THINGS. IS THIS MONEY GOING TO BE USED FOR THE PURPOSES THAT ARE STATED -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T WANT A FUTURE MAYOR OR COUNCIL TO SAY WE CAN BORROW FROM THIS OR AN ATTORNEY TO FIND A LOOPHOLE, TECHNICALLY THIS CAN BE USED FOR AND GOES TO A PET PROJECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MONEY WILL BE INVESTED PROPERLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. YOU ALL BRIEFED ME ALSO. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. THE ONE THING WE ARE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR FROM HOMEOWNERS ESPECIALLY WHO LIVED HERE THEIR WHOLE LIVES, THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE COST OF THE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PEOPLE COMING IN. THEY THAT I THAT THE -- THAT THE NEW PEOPLE COME OF COMING IN SHOULD PAY THEIR OWN FAIR SHARE. AND WHY PUT THE BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, ESPECIALLY THEIR RETIREES OR PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME THAT BE CAN'T AFFORD HIGHER TAXES AND THEY DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR THAT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN, THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT WHATEVER MECHANISM THAT PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. YOU TALK ABOUT A MULTIMODAL FEE. TWO BIGGEST THING I AM HEARING ARE ROADS AND STORM WATER. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO FIX STORMWATER BECAUSE THE ROADS HOLD STORMWATER ALSO. BUT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH BOTH AS A RESULT OF ALL THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE MOVING IN. SOUTH TAMPA, IN THE PENINSULA, ONLY THREE WAYS OUT. AND THERE IS NO REAL WAY TO WIDE ROADS. AND SO TO CHAIR CLENDENIN'S POINT, I WONDER IF YOU CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPECIAL SER SERVICE. >>BILL CARLSON: THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO SHOW IS FOR EVERY -- LET'S SAY AN INTERSECTION IS -- IS A C RIGHT NOW. AND WITH 5,000 MORE PEOPLE MOVING IN, IT IS GOING TO BE AN F. AND SO WITH -- WITH THE 5,000 NEW PEOPLE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT IT IS GOING TO COST X AMENT TO FIX THAT INTERSECTION SO THERE WON'T BE AN F. IN SOUTH TAMPA IT IS LIMIT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WIDEN THE ROAD AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. FOR ME WE HAVE TO QUANTIFY WITH THE UP CREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHAT ROADS WE HAVE TO IMPROVE. IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX -- BECAUSE ROADS WERE UNDERFUNDED FOR 20 TO 30 YEARS. WE CAN'T GO AND FIX THAT PROBLEM, A PAST PROBLEM. WE CAN ONLY LOOK FORWARD. WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE INCREMENTAL COST OF AN ADDITIONAL HOUSE AND PERSON ON THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT THAT COST IS, CORRECT? I WONDER IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF MATH ON THAT THAT WE CAN SHOW. THE OTHER THING -- I DON'T THINK I MISSED IT. BUT SOMEWHERE YOU HAVE A CHART THAT SHOWS WHAT THE SIMILAR FEES ARE IN OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND HOW LOAF THE-- HOW LOW THEY ARE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE HEARINGS AND HEARINGS TO FOLLOW THIS. TO REMIND FOLKS, THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE ALREADY EXISTS. THAT WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED WHETHER IT IS REQUIRED OR NOT. THE ONLY QUESTION ON TABLE THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP AND PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, IS IT SET -- BECAUSE OF LAW, WE HAVE TO SHOW THERE IS EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES TO INCREASE IT BEYOND -- >> EMMA GREGORY: 50%. SO IF COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE DECIDES 30% INCREASE IS APPROPRIATE, A 49% INCREASE IS APPROPRIATE, THEN THESE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT, INCLUDING THE DEMONSTRATED NEEDS STUDY, EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE, THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARY TO RAISE THE FEE WITHIN THE PREDESCRIBED PHASE-IN LIMITATIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY STATUTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN:ED TO IS A CHECK THE BOX TO OPEN UP OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE WORKSHOPS AND HEARINGS. IF WE CAN FIND THERE IS EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE. IF WE DO NOT FIND EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRED BY LAW TO INCREASE IT BELOW 50% FOR THE FEE. WE DO THAT, ONLY DO IT ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. >> EMMA GREGORY: ONLY INGRESS IT ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WE GO. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID WE COULD PHASE IT IN. GO UP X A AMOUNT OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. I DON'T THINK YOU WERE DISAGREEING WITH ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, I WAS NOT. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO BE CLEAR. I THINK THE BETTER WE CAN QUANTIFY IT -- TENS OF THOUSANDS OF UNITS BUILT BELOW SOUTH OF GANDY, AND THE ROADS READY COMPLETELY CONGESTED GETTING SOUTH OF GANDY GOING NORTH AND THE ROUTES TO THE GET OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA. AND THERE HAS GOT TO BE A WAY TO QUANTIFY WHAT THE COST IS -- FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WE MIGHT TO DO FIX THAT CONGESTION AND WHAT THE COST IS TO FIX IT. AND WHAT THE INCREMENTAL COST IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL HOUSE OR AN ADDITIONAL PERSON SO WE CAN -- I THINK THE BETTER THE MATH IS THAT PROVES HOW WE ARE TAKING THE ACTUAL COST OF THE INCREASE AND APPLYING IT TO THIS WILL BE THE BETTER IT WDEFENSE IN COURT >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT -- LET'S SEE, ITEM NUMBER 2. CHRISTINA COSTA, FOLLOWED BY ALISON HEWITT. JUST TO REMIND FOLKS TODAY, WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHETHER THEY EXIST TO INCREASE THIS FEE ABOVE 50%. POLICE ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM CHRISTINA COSTA. I LIVE IN TAMPA IN DISTRICT 1. AND I AM ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER-OPERATOR. TODAY I REPRESENT THE NONPROFIT WALK-BIKE TAMPA. WALK-BIKE TAMPA IS STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE CITY'S PROPOSAL TO UPDATE AND INCREASE THE MULT BIMODAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE. MORE THAN THREE DECADES, TAMPA HAS RELIED ON AN OUTDATED FEE SCHEDULE THAT FAILS TO MEET THE REALITIES OF TODAY'S GROWTH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND MOBILITY NEED. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT. THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE LAST UPD UPDATED 1989 NO LONGER REFLECTS THE TRUE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING OF SAFE AND EFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE. IN THAT TIME, TAMPA'S POPULATION AND JOB GROWTH HAS ACCELERATED. CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE FAR OUTPACED INFLATION AND CRASH AND FATALITY RATES REMAIN THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION. THESE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE EXACTLY THE KIND OF EXTRAORDINARY CONDITIONS FLORIDA LAW RECOGNIZES AS JUSTIFYING A MEANINGFUL UPDATE. AS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO MAKING TAMPA SAFER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WALK, ROLL AND USE TRANSIT AND DRIVE, WE SEE FIRST HAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF CHRONIC UNDERESTIMATE IN MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE. TOO MANY OF OUR STREETS REMAIN CONGESTED, DANGEROUS AND HAVE LIMITED SIDEWALKS, INADEQUATE CROSSINGS, AND INSUFFICIENT PROTECTED BIKE FACILITIES. BY UPDATING THE IMPACT FEE, TAMPA CAN ENSURE THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENT CONTRIBUTES ITS FAIR SHARE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT GROWTH. IMPORTANTLY, THESE FUNDS CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARD PROJECTS THAT EXPAND MOBILITY CHOICES. DAYLIGHTING INTERSECTION, CREATING SAFE CROSSWALKS, COMPLETE CROSSWALKS, MULTIUSE TRAILS, AND BETTER TRANSIT CONNECTIONS. THESE ARE NOT LUXURIES, THEY ARE LIFE-SAVING INVESTMENTS THAT ALSO REDUCE CONGESTION AND IMPROVE HEALTH AND STRENGTHEN OUR ECONOMY BY GETTING PEOPLE TO JOBS AND EDUCATION AND JUST AROUND TOWN. WE ALSO KNOW THAT SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES HAVE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION TO RAISE THEIR IMPACT FEES. AND TAMPA MUST NOT FALL FURTHER BEHIND. WITH THE PASS SAM OF SB 1080, WINDOW TO MAKE THIS CHANGE IS CHANGING QUICKLY AND DELAYING IT WOULD LOCK TAMPA IN TO THE PAST. WALK-BIKE TAMPA ENCOURAGE YOUS YOU TO PROPOSE AND TO MOVE ALONG THE PROCESS FOR THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE. DOING SO WILL MAKE OUR CITY MORE LIVABLE, RESILIENT AND CONNECTED AND DEMONSTRATE YOUR COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT TO BUILDING A SAFER, HEALTHIER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES, WORKS AND VISITS TAMPA. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MISS ACOSTA. MISS POYNOR IF RECOGNIZE NYGAARDED THAT I LEFT HER OFF THE LIST. >> GOOD MORNING, STEP STEPHANIE POYNOR. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE STAFF TO PROCESS IT. I ASKED THIS QUESTION. BUT I HAVEN'T GOT THE ANSWER. EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE IS WE ARE OPERATING WITH A ONE ARM AND ONE LEG AND -- BOTH HAND TIED BEHIND OUR BACK TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS. I HAD THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS REPORT TWO YEARS AGO. IF THAT IS NOT EXTRA ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, I WOULD -- I WOULD SAY THAT IT ABSOLUTELY IS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR -- TO RAISE IT TOO. I WOULD ALSO LIKE -- I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE AGENDA AT THE END OF OCTOBER. I HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION. I AM GLAD MISS ACOSTA CAME TOGETHER, BUT I THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THERE ARE WAY MORE FOLKS IN THE CITY. AND I THINK THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF OUR IMPACT FEES BEING ENTIRELY TOO LOW. THERE IS A RED LIGHT AT TYSON AND WEST SHORE THAT WAS NEEDS STUDY DONE IN 2006. IN APRIL, THEY PUT UP A TEMPORARY LIGHT. NOW THAT PENINSULA HAS OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NEW HOUSING ON IT. BUT YET WE CAN'T AFFORD FOR GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE RED LIGHT? DO THE MATH. ASK FOR THAT. WE ASKED FOR THE COMP PLAN TO BE BROUGHT UP WHEN WE WERE ASKING FOR STUFF. WE ASKED FOR SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. WHAT DID THIS COST US FOR ALL -- YOU KNOW. WHAT DID WE LEAVE LAYING ON THE TABLE FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT FOR THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION. DON'T HAVE ANY CROSSWALKS. TONS OF WRECKS SINCE THEY PUT IN THE TEMPORARY LIGHT BECAUSE NO ONE EXPECTED TO BE THERE. NO SIDEWALK ON TYSON. FROM WEST SHORE TO TYSON. NO SIDEWALK. THEY FINALLY PAVED IT, BUT JUST ASK -- JUST ASK FOR TYSON AND WEST SHORE. ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND WE PROBABLY LEFT MILLIONS ON THE TABLE. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS AND ASK FOR SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLENTY HE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR YOU TO MOBILIZE. MISS LIEU WIT. >> GOOD MORNING, ALISON HEWITT, RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA. I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THIS WITH THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS WILL BE ANOTHER TOOL IN YOUR TOOLBOX, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. AS WE ARE WORKING TO TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT, THE FTA HAS A FORMULA ON HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE MONEY TO INCREASE YOUR PUBLIC TRANSIT. AND THIS TYPE OF IMPACT FEE GOES INTO THE FORMULA TO SAY THAT THAT COMMUNITY HAS INVESTED IN THEIR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION. NOT ONLY WILL THIS HELP US WHEN WE HAVE NOT INCREASED IS SINCE 1986, BUT SINCE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE YOU HAVE OF PUBLIC WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WITH HART. ANOTHER WAY FOR US BEING THE CITY OF TAMPA TO ADD TO FORMULA PROVIDED TO THE FTA. COULD HAVE ANOTHER POSITIVE IMPACT MUCH MAKING SURE WE ARE FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO INCREASE OUR ACCESS OF ACT SELLSABILITY TO PUBLIC TRANSIT HERE IN TAMPA THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MISS HEWITT. NEXT SPEAKER IS RYAN HAYES FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI AND KIYRA. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU KIND OF SAID EVERYTHING -- NOT EVERYTHING, BUT HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTERS THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP. MISS PONOR AND THE LAY FROM THE WALK-BIKE ASSOCIATION. HE NEED TO GET THIS OFF CHEST, THE EVE OF HELENE. BEFORE THE MEET ASKING ADJOURN, REFLECT ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN TAMPA THAT HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY LAST YEAR'S HURRICANE. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A YEAR, MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN BY MOST, I THINK THE THOUGHTFUL PROCESS OF SENDING THOSE GOOD ENERGIES AND VIBRATIONS OUT THERE WILL BE USEFUL. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TOO MUCH TIME. THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING A LOT OF THOSE IMPORTANT TOPIC MATTER ABOUT THE MOBILITY. THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ONE OF MY FAVORITE DOGS TO TAMPA. MR. MICHELINI. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT THIS DOESN'T PAY FOR ANY REPAIRS OF ANY STREET. IT DOESN'T PAY FOR ANY SIDEWALKS. IT DOESN'T PAY FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ROADWAY SOMEWHERE IN TAMPA YOU ARE LIMITED BY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. AND I MEAN, THEY ALREADY TOLD YOU. IT IS NOT PUTTING IN NEW TRAFFIC LIGHTS. IT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SADDLING ANY IN-FIELD PROJECT WITH A HIGHER RATE. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE RATE SHOULDN'T BE ADJUSTED, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR OVER 50% OF THE -- OF THE CURRENT RATE. SIMPLY DOESN'T. LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY. FEES ARE LOW COMPARED TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES HAVE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND. LOOK AT MANATEE COUNTY. THEY USE THAT IN HERE. THEY HAVE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND. WE DON'T HAVE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND LEFT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO BUILD A NEW ROADWAY. NOT IN SOUTH TAMPA OR NORTH TAMPA OR WEST TAMPA THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS ARE FIXED. AND SON THIS MONEY GOING TO REPAIR ANY OF THAT. NOT FOR POTHOLES, NOTHING. IT FAILS TO MEET THE INTENTION OF THE OTHER IMPACT FEES. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH SENATE BILL 180. YOU WILL HEAR A PRESENTATION SHORTLY. SENATE 180 SAYS YOU EXPECT DO. SENATE BILL 1080 IS THE ONE THEY ARE USING TO LEVERAGE THIS PROCESS. YOU NEED TO HAVE ACHIEVABLE GOALS. NOT JUST SAYING, OKAY, WE HAVE A NEED. WHEN YOU GET UP AND THINK ABOUT, ISN'T TRAFFIC AWFUL. LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ON SOME OF THESE STREETS. THEY ADDED THESE PARKING SPACES. THEY CONSTRICTED FLOW OF TRAFFICKING THAT CAUSE CONGESTION. THEY ELIMINATED LANES WITH THESE TRAFFIC LANES -- WITH THESE BICYCLE LANES. WHAT DOES IT DO? TAKES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE ROADWAYS FROM C TO D AND MAKES THEM LEVEL OF SERVICE F. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS DONE IN 2022 THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT. YOU CAN NOT GET OUT. IT CREATES SAFETY CONCERNS ALL OVER THE CITY. WE ASKED THEM NOT TO DO IT. THESE PARKING SPACES THEY PUT ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DO NOT MEET TECHNICAL STANDARDS. WE BROUGHT THOUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION. THEY SAID, OH, WELL, YOU CAN CHALLENGE IT TO THE STATE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND IN THESE CONSTRICTED AREAS STRICTLY WON'T WORK. IF YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE FEES, ADJUST THE FEES. DON'T MAKE IT AN EXTRAORDINARY FEE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND WILL NOT MEET THE CRITERIA. DEMAND FOR MULTIMODAL SERVICE. A BACKWARDS WAY OF GETTING MULTIMODAL FUNDING. NOT FIXING STREETS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. NUMBER OF ROADWAYS OPERATING BEYOND CAPACITY, THAT WAS A SELF-IMPOSED ISSUE BECAUSE THEY CREATEDED THAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, PART OWNER OF A HOME HERE IN HYDE PARK. I WANT TO SAY THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE RAISED VALID CONCERNS INCLUDING MR. MICHELINI, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN IMPACT FEE SINCE 1989. IT NEEDS TO BE RAISED, THE QUESTION IS, BY HOW MUCH? I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOST THAT IF SENIOR CITIZENSWATCH IMPACT FEES. SHOULD BE FOR PEOPLE BUILDING NEW HOMES AND MORE FAIR TO GET THIS REVENUE. RIGHT NOW HAVE YOU A CHALLENGE OF BUYING MEAT. THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED TO BUY MEAT OR BUY PAMPERS, MILK OR WHATEVER. IT IS A CHALLENGE HERE. AND IT IS BEING RISEN. ALSO THE TARIFF TAX IS -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE. AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE BEFORE THE COURTS IS KAY YEA OR NAY. BUT THE MEANTIME, THEY WILL HAVE BE BUILDING AND MOVING FORWARD UNTIL WE SEE WHAT WHAT THIS GOING ON. I AM GLAD TO HEAR THEY ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WILL BE EQUITABLE AND FAIR TO NOT ONLITH BUILDERS BUT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AS TO HOW MUCH WE WOULD RAISE IT. WE CAN'T JUST RUSH AND RAISE IT BY 100% BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE 1989. WE HAVE TO USE SOSOME GOOD COMM SENSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV. CAN I HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THE SCREEN SO I CAN SEE HER DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS SO IF WE CAN -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING FROM YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION COMING FORWARD. I -- I DO BELIEVE THAT -- I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE FACT THAT WE HAD SUCH AN INCREASE IN POPULATION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS DOES SEEM LIKE AN EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL TO ME. SO I APPRECIATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUING COVERING AS WE CONSIDER THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASED ON PAST DISCUSSIONS AND INFORMATION WE RECEIVED AND, OF COURSE, OUR TASKS WE ASSIGN TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- A CONSENSUS ON A THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES FROM COUNCIL. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION INCOME IS SENTIMENT OF STAFF SO THEY HAVE A GUIDANCE SO THEY KNOW WHERE I AM HEADING. >> I THINK THERE IS SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE WE SHOULD TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC HIRING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE. CLEAN CLENDENIN STAFF HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE HEAD WILLING AND HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT. IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR YOU? >>. >> MIAMI GREGORY: YES, THANK YOU. COUNCIL. WE WILL COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION BACK IN OCTOBER TO A ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU RAISED TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, STEPH. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT I WONDER IF I CAN ASK ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION. THIS MONEY, TO IT BE APPLICABLE, HAS TO BE USED TO MITIGATE THE EXTRA BURDEN OF A NEW HOUSE OR NEW PEOPLE. SOME IT CAN NOT -- IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T POOL MONEY FROM ONE PART OF THE CITY TO WORK ON SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY. OR WORK ON -- YOU CAN'T -- YOU CAN'T TAKE THE MONEY FROM SOUTH TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND USE IT TO PAY FOR A TRAINING DOWNTOWN. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD DIRECTLY MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE -- THAT BE HAVE -- BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA BURDEN. >> EMMA GREGORY: YES, TWO THINGS. CAN'T BE USED FOR EXISTING DEFICIENCIES. THAT IS CORRECT. IT HAS TO BE LOOKING FORWARD. A LOT OF STRINGS ADAMED TO THIS MONEY. SIX IMPACT FEE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY. WHEN AN IMPACT FEE IS ASSESSED IN THAT DISTRICT AND COLLECTED, IF GOES INTO THAT THUND. FROM THERE ON OUT, IT CAN ONLY BE BE USED IN THAT DISTRICT. >>BILL CARLSON: TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THE DISTRICTS ARE SO THEY KNOW? >> EMMA GREGORY: UP, YES. I DON'T HAVE IT OFF HAND. I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK BRANDON DOES. >> MIAMI GREGORY: BRANDON, IF YOU DO. >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: DISTRICT IF BOUNDARIES COULD BE CONSIDERED IF COUNCIL WISHES TO LOOK AT THOSE. DIFFERENT POCKETS ALL OVER THE CITY AND DON'T MATCH THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS IF THAT IS PART OF THE QUESTION. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS NOT FOR CITIZENS WHO ALREADY LIVE AND OWN HOMES IN THE CITY. >> MIAMI GREGORY: IT IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR REDEVELOPMENT. SO IF SOMEONE OWNS THEIR HOMER HALL AND STAYS IN THEIR HOME AND NO PLANS TO REDEVELOP IT, THIS KNEE WILL NOT APPLY TO THEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE POINT. AND WHAT THIS COUNCIL OVERALL TALKED ABOUT THESE FEES THAT ARE BY PEOPLE MOVING IN HERE ARE THE ONE THAT CITIZENS WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE BY AND LARGE HAVE BEEN ASKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR US TO INCREASE TO HELP BRING THEM IN AND PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE WE HAD IN YEARS PRIOR. SO THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THEY HAVE GOING ON THE WOLF. >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO FOR NEW HOMES RIGHT? IT IS NOT -- IF SOMEBODY MOVES IN AND BUYING AN EXISTING HOME. OR SOMEONE MOVING FROM ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, IT DOESN'T APPLY. ONLY NEW HOMES -- NEW CONSTRUCTION BRANLZ BRONCOS FEES ARE ASSESSED AT THE TIME OF THE PERMIT ISSUANCE. IT IS ON THE PROJECTOR IF YOU WANT TO BE SEE IT. CLEAN CLENDENIN THERE IT IS. >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THE BREAKDOWN. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T SEE THAT. IF THE WOLF -- >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT IS ALSO ON THE WEB SITE. WE CAN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV, PUT IT ON THE PUBLIC PRESENTATION AS WELL, THE WOLF PRESENTATION. THERE GO. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT NOW, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT IS ALSO ON THE WEB SITE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T -- BE THERE WE GO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE LAGGING. YOUR CABLE IS LAGGING BEHIND THE REALTIME ON OUR MONITORS -- WELL, THE INTERNET. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED IT. >> MIAMI GREGORY: THANK YOU. >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. FOR A CHANGE, WE WILL TALK OF HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. >> EVAN JOHNSON: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. EVAN JOHNSON. I'M HERE FIRST TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. IF YOU CAN GET THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE HEARD US OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THROUGH VARIOUS PROJECTS TALKING OF THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THE WORK BEING DONE. IT HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. I DID WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT GOING ON MORE OR LESS IN THE BACKGROUND CERTAINLY BEEN USING THE DATA AND THE ANALYSIS FROM THE CONSULTANT TEAM TO HELP INFORM SOME OF THE OTHER WORK WE ARE DOING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ETC. WHILE IT IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE SUMMARY OF THE TIME RESULT, BUT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN INFORMING US ALONG THE WAY WHEN WE HAVE GONE. COVER A FEW MAIN TOPICS FROM THE STUDY ITSELF AND TRY TO DO IT IN A SUCCINCT MANNER. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. COVERS DATA AND TREND AND AFFORDABILITY. THE TEAM DID A COMPREHENSIVE GAP ANALYSIS THAT LOOKED FOR PROJECTED NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY PLANNING DISTRICT AND POTENTIAL COST IT IS WE WERE TRY TO SUBSIDIZE THAT. LAND USE AND ZONING CATEGORIES TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY CURRENTLY ON THE MAPS TO ACHIEVE AND THRILL D-- AND DEAL WITH OUR NEED FOR HOUSING. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE CONSULT STANT TASK CAN AND RIGHT INTO THE GOOD STUFF. DATA AND TREND OF THE POPUL POPULATION. COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS TWO TIME PERIODS. 2010 GROWTH AND COMPARING CONTINUE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY. WE ARE IN BLUE ON THE RIGHT. I WANT AND TO POINT OUT THAT AS YOU CAN SEE, 2010, WE GREW AT A RELATIVELY SLOW RATE, ABOUT 6.8%. AGAIN THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS. BUT THAT HAS INCREASED GREATLY 2010. WHILE WE ARE STILL BEHIND, LAGGING BEHIND THE STATE IN THE COUNTY WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GROWTH IN HOUSEHOLDS, 20% GROWTH IN THE LAST DECADE, AND THAT IS HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE. WHEN WE TALK OF PRICES RISING, WE TALK OF THE NEEDS FOR HOUSING AND A REAL CHANGE HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE LAST DECK CA /* -- DECADE OR SO. THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT TWO MAIN SUBJECTS HERE. CHART AT THE TOP TALKS OF A TREND WE SEE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. HOUSEHOLDS SIZES ARE GETTING SMALLER. CITIES TEND TO HAVE SMALLER HOUSE HOLD SIZES THAN SUBURBAN COUNTIES WHICH MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE HOME SIZES AND SO FORTH. IMPACTS TO US. A COUPLE OF INTERESTING IMPACTS. ONE, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER HOUSEHOLD LIVING IN LARGER HOUSES. WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THE SMALLER UNITS AVAILABLE OPINION. THE SECOND PART I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, SMALLER HOUSES EQUAL MORE UNITS. AS WE GROW IF THE HOUSEHOLDS AND THE TREND CONTINUES GETTING SMALLER, ACTUAL NUMBER OF UNITS WILL BE INCREASING OVER TIME. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO QUITE, IF YOU WILL, GET THE SAME BANG FOR THE BUCK BECAUSE THOSE HOUSEHOLDS AND LIVING ARRANGEMENTS ARE CHANGING. YOU HAVE SEEN THESE TYPE OF CHARTS BY HOUSING TENURE. THE BLUE IS YOUR HOMEOWNER RATE. GREEN IS YOUR RENTAL RATE, PERCENTAGE OF RENTAL HOUSEHOLDS. TAMPA GENERALLY -- THIS IS ONE-YEAR DATA. IT VARIES. A MARGIN OF ERROR. TAMPA IS GENERALLY 50, 50. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 660%. FLORIDA, 67. I BELIEVE WE PULLED ST. PETE AND WE PULLED ORLANDO AS WELL. ORLANDO IS 38.5% HOME OPENER. SOME A VERY LARGE RENTAL POPULATION IN ORLANDO AND MAKES SENSE WITH ALL THE SERVICE INDUSTRI INDUSTRIES. AND SWEET 63% IN THE CITY WELL. DATA AND TRENDS AROUND HOUSING STRUCTURES. WHAT TYPE -- WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE HOUSING OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT IS IT MADE UP OF? SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, LARGE CONDO BUILDINGS, AND WHAT HAS THE TREND BEEN OVER TIME. WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WHAT WE FOUND AT THE VERY TOP OF THE TABLE HERE SINCE 2000. THE PORTION OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES HAVE REMAINED STEADY, ABOUT 5 % OF OUR TOTAL HOUSING STOCK. NOT A TON OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUILT. ONE BY ONE WHAT WE SEE. WE ARE SEEING A BIG BUMP ON THE SECOND ROW IN SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. THAT IS YOUR HOMER HALLS. THE PROPORTION OF THE HOUSING TACK OF TOWN HOMES HAVE GONE UP. SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. A GIANT -- I WILL CALL IF GIANT, 50-PLUS UNITS, LARGE MULTIFAMILY HAVE GONE UP 15%. OR UP TO 15%. MAKES UP 15 MERIDIAN OF THE HOUSING STOCK ARE THESE LARGER HOUSING COMPLEXES ANECDOTELY DRIVING AROUND, YOU CAN SEE THAT. RIGHT ABOVE THAT 50-PLUS-UNIT NUMBER, YOU HAVE DEFENSE CREASES IN THE SHARE OF SMALLER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. ANYTHING FROM FIVE UNITS TO CLOSE TO 50 UNITS. WE HAVEN'T BEEN BUILDING AT THE SAME RATE FOR THOSE. THAT CONTINUES FOR DUPLEXES, FOR TRI TRIPERSPECTIVESES AND FOR QUADS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROPORTION OF THOSE OVER TIME INCREASE AND SOMETIMES DECREASE. TWO THINGS I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CHART. IT LOOKS AT THE HOME VALUES. RENTAL VALUES AND HOME VALUES. MOST OF THIS DATA PULLED FROM ZILLOW. THEY DO THIS COLLECTING THIS OVER TIME FOR CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. NOT SURPRISING HERE. WE HAVE SEEN A SLOWDOWN. THIS HOME VALUES. IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, WE HAVE SEEN A SLIGHT DECREASE ON SINGLE-FAMILY HOME VALUES. 3.2% DECREASE SO FAR THIS YEAR. NOW THAT DATA IS DYNAMIC SO IT IS CHANGING FAIRLY REGULARLY, BUT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT; HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL UP 58% IN HOME VALUES SINCE 2020. SINCE COVID -- THAT COVID BUMP WHILE IT HAS SLOWED, IT STILL REMAINS VERY HAVE MUCH OUT THERE AND PLACED INTO ALL OF THE HOMES OUT THROUGH ON THE MARKET. BOTTOM TABLE IT RENTS. RENTS. AT 49% FROM 2020. SAME ISSUE. WE ARE SEEING A SLOWDOWN OF GROWTH OF RENTAL RATES AND NOT SEEING A DECREASE YET IN THE MARKET. AND THIS LOOKS AT YOUR HOME BURDEN. TABLE IN THE LEFT A TABLE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE WHICH IS OUR AFFORDABLE, AVAILABLE HOUSING UNITS. I WILL JUST ASK YOU TO FOCUS ON A 0% TO 50%. THEY ARE NOT CUMULATIVE. YOU CAN'T ADD THEM UP TO GET THE NUMBER. A NEED BY AMI LEVEL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 0 TO 50%. YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME, DEFICIT OF 26,000 UNITS. WHAT THAT GENERALLY MEANS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HOMELESS. PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE SPENDING OVER 30% OF THEIR INCOME. SOMETIMES WELL OVER 30% OF THEIR INCOME JUST TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. OR THEY ARE MOVING IN AND HAVING JOINT FAMILY LIVING ARRANGEMENTS. THAT CAN OFTEN BE THE CASE WHEN NEEDED AND SHARE THE BURDEN OF EXPENSE. ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE COST BURDEN CHART OVER TIME TESTIMONY FROM 2000 TO 2021. I WILL POINT TO YOU 2010, WE HAD 46% IN THE MIDDLE THERE OF 46.5% OF MORTGAGE HOLDERS WERE PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR GROSS INCOME FOR HOUSING. THAT HAS COME BACK DOWN IN THE LAST DECADE TO AROUND 27%. HOWEVER, THE RENTAL RATES AND THE RENTAL COST BURDEN HAS REMAINED THE SAME. AT 53% OF THE RECENT POPULATION PAYING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE INCOME IN 2010 SIMILAR FOR WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN 2021. WE PULLED 2023 AND SLIGHTLY HIGHER. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE GONE UP A LITTLE BIT AS WELL FOR 2023 DATA, WHICH IS THE MOST CURRENT AVAILABLE. WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE GAP ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE. HOW MANY UNITS BY PLANNING DISTRICT DO WE NEED PROJECTED OUT 20 YEARS? AND IF THE CITY WAS TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE. WE SAW A BIG NUMBER EARLY ON AND THIS IS TO SHOW THAT IT IS NOT A -- WE CAN NOT SUBSIDIZE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. THIS NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC AND A PRIVATE EFFORT TO REALLY BUILD THE AMOUNT OF BUILDING UNITS WE NE NEED. BASED ON PROJECTIONS AND THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS STUDY, AMI MIX IN THE HOUSEHOLDS WILL LARGELY STAY THE SAME. 14,700 AFFORDABLE UNITS NEEDED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. UNDER 120% OF YOUR AMI PER HOUSEHOLD. YOU WILL SEE CENTRAL TAMPA IS THE LARGEST BIT OF THAT AT 6100. YOU HAVE THE USF AREA NEXT WITH 5200. SOUTH TAMPA, 2500. AND DOWN TO 5 FOR WEST SHORE AND 4 FOR NEW TAMPA. THE COST TO SUBSIDIZE NEW UNITS EACH OF THE PLANNING DISTRICT. IF WE WERE TO SUBSIDIZE A NEW UNIT, THE SUBSIDIES COURSE OVER THE 15 OR 20-YEAR PERIOD. SO WHAT YOU CAN SIGH HERE IS THAT IN THIS -- THIS IS BASED ON A RATE OF RETURN THAT WAS -- -- THAT WAS CALCULATE BY OUR CONSULTANT. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE FOR REQUEST MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE TO WRITE DOWN IN A MARKET THAT IS PRICED AT THE MARKET WE ARE. THE ISLAND MORE EXPENSIVE. CONSTRUCTION MORE EXPENSIVE. ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE MORE RENT. YOU CAN SEE THE VARIATION OF THE PLANNING DISTRICTS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: USF IT INSTITUTIONAL AND VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE. >> EVAN JOHNSON: SORRY, THE /* SORRY ABOUT THE COLOR, USF WOULD BE 259,000 WOULD BE THE SUBSIDY NEXT UNIT WHICH IS THE NEXT TO LAST ROW. THANK YOU. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? THIS IS ABOUT $5 BILLION. $4.8 BILLION OF SUBSIDY JUST TO DEAL WITH THE PROJECTED DEMAND MOVING FORWARD NOT THE CURRENT DEMAND OR THE GAP WE CURRENTLY IN THE MARKET. AT $240 MILLION A YEAR FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, MORE OR LESS. SO -- WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. REALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CITY, THE CITY AND THE STATE. WHAT IS THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO DO. LOOKING AT THE MARKET SOLUTIONS TO HELP ENCOURAGE THE MARKETS IN OTHER WAYS AS WELL. SOFT ONE OF THE WAYS WE DID THAT AND OUR CONSULTANT DID THAT. OKAY, BIG NUMBERS AND BIG INVESTMENTS. LET'S TALK OF LAND USE AND ZONING. LET'S ENTICE THE MARKET TO BUILD WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BUILD AND GET MORE HOUSING ON THE MARKET. FIRST TO GET A NEW CAPACITY IN COMP PLAN AND IN A ZONING. WHAT WE DID HERE A BEAUTIFUL MAP OF ALL THESE DOTS IS THE DATA PREPARED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT LOOKS AT REDEVELOPABLE LAND AND VACANT RESIDENTIAL, VACANT COMMERCIAL, AND WHAT THEY CALL REDEVELOPABLE PARCELS. THEY USE THIS AS REDEVELOPING OF POPULATION PROJECTIONS. WE USED THE DATA AND ANALYZE IT AND CALCULATED HOW MANY UNITS THEORETICALLY COULD BE BUILT ON THESE PARCELS WITHOUT ANY PLAN AMENDMENT OR CHANGES. WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. IF YOU LOOK AT -- THAT SUBSEPTEMBER ON THE MAP -- SUBSET ON THE MAP OF PARCELS. BUILD OUT COULD BE 100,000 UNITS WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES WHERE 70,000 OF THEM WILL BE ON LAND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REDEVELOP VERSUS VACANT AND 29,000 OF THOSE UNITS, GIVE OR TAKE -- YES, DOESN'T QUITE ADD UP TO 100,000 BUT WE ARE ROUND SOMETHING BUILT ON VACANT. THE ZONING -- AND REALLY THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE. WE ARE GOING THROUGH -- AS YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT REDESIGN AND REORGAN REORGANIZATION OF OUR CODE. ONE OF THE WAYS TO BETTER ALIGN WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE. THE CODE CHANGES THAT WILL HAPPEN HOPEFULLY WILL HELP FACILITATE HOUSING TO CLOSE THE GAP WHAT CAN BE DONE OVER FUTURE USES AND WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE ZONING. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOTICE IS THAT CURRENTLY IN THE CODE WE -- THIS IS ONLY BY RIGHT. CURRENTLY IN THE CODE IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY ALLOW HOUSE BIG RIGHT. A SPECIAL USE PROCESS REVIEW IN ORDER TO GET THOSE BUILT-IN COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING. SO STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL LOOK AFFIDAVIT GENERALLY INCREASING DENSITY. THESE ARE FROM OUR CONSULTANT, INCREASING DENSITY ON THE CONSISTENT TRANSIT CORRIDORS. AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE BEEN BAKING THIS INTO OUR COMP PLAN PROCESS THROUGHOUT. LOOKING AT "MISSING MIDDLE" FUTURE LAND USE OVERLAYS. IS THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN FIND AREAS TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE SMALLER MULTIFAMILY UNITS. ADU POLICIES. CURRENTLY WE DO NOT ALLOW FOR ADUs. THE HOMEOWNER AND THE ADU. THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO BE ON THE SITE. WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO BE BOTH RENTAL UNITS. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSULTANT THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO AMEND THAT POLICY TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE. AS FAR AS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE TALK OF PERMIT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. NEXT TWO BULLETS ARE FOCUSED ON THAT MISSING MIDDLE. HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE THEM AND THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS TO ALLOW THEM. ELIMINATE OR REDUCING OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SOMETHING WHICH HEARD IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE -- ARE THERE TRANSIT ACCESSIBLE FROO PROPERTIES. AND LAST ONE TO ELIMINATE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS IN ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW AT LEAST INITIAL A LEGAL WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WITH THE CODE ASSESSMENT, THE POSSIBILITY OF SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FRONTAGES LOOK RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE A SIZE MINIMUM TO GET THE LOOK AND FEEL WE WANT. FINALLY A RECOMMENDATION TO PROVIDE PREAPPROVED BUILDING PLANS. AGAIN, THESE WILL JUST FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IF YOU CAN COME IN AND WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING STAMPED OFF ON. ISSUING THE PERMIT BECOMES A LOT MORE EASY TO DO. SO THEN YOU ARE FOCUSED ON-SITE PLAN WORK. AND FROM THE CONSULTANT, I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE MADE A POLICY DECISION IN THE WORK ON THE COMP PLAN TO REALLY FOCUS ON INCENTIVIZING THROUGH BONUSES. THROUGH STATE OF FLORIDA, THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE COST BURDEN ON COMMUNITIES WHEN IT COMES TOP IF YOU REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO SET ASIDE HOUSING YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WHOLE FINANCIALLY. WE BELIEVE THE DENSITY BONUS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU GO TOBACCO TO THE -- BACK TO THE CHART THAT SHOWS THE COST OF EACH AREA? THE MOST EXPENSIVE TO THE CHEAPEST. MOST SPIN SIEVE, ASSUME IS SOUTH TAMPA. >> EVAN JOHNSON. WOOCHLT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GET LYNN HURTAK ON COUNCIL MONITOR IT IS THEY WANTS ATTENTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LEAST EXPENSIVE NEW COMPANY, USF PAIR I CAN'T -- WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE, CENTRAL TAMPA? >> EVAN JOHNSON: CENTRAL TAMPA, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, DOWNTOWNS AND EAST TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUPLE OF FACTORS. ABSOLUTELYIOUSLY IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND LAND IS MORE EXPENSIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND OTHER AREAS. THOSE AREAS CERTAIN FACTORS, SOUTH TAMPA, CERTAIN EXAMPLE. SCHOOL CAPACITY. WHERE THE KIDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL. PLANT, ROBINSON. OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS. CLASS OF LAND WHEN THERE ARE HURRICANES. WE HAD A VERY ROBUST, DISCUSSION AT THE END OF AUGUST OF THE TRANSIT-READY CORRIDORS. PEOPLE HAD CONCERNED DOWN DALE MABRY, KENNEDY. YOU KNOW, YOU WERE THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT IS LEAST -- LESS EXPENSIVE TO BUILD ARE THOSE AREAS. NEW TAMPA -- I WILL SAY IT DIFFERENTLY, NOT TAMPA PALMS, BUT MORE TO DISTRICT 7 THAN THOSE AREAS. >> EVAN JOHNSON: YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CENTRAL TAMPA, NOW YOU ARE GOING THE HEIGHTS -- LET'S CALL IT EAST TAMPA, BY DISTRICT. BUT THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE INVESTING. FIRST, BECAUSE THE NEED OF THE HOUSING, THE AFFORDABILITY. PEOPLE WHO MOST IMPACTED. AS I ALWAYS DAY THE LAND THAT TIME FORGET. WE NEED TO INVEST IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. HOUSING BEING THE BIGGEST PRIORITY. IN OTHER AREAS WHERE IS WE HAVE PARKING MINIMUMS, THE BURDEN OF THE HIGH COST OF PARK WHERE IT PRESENT DEVELOP FROM MAKING AFFORDABLE AND MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS BECAUSE SO EXPENSIVE FOR A PARKING GARAGE FOR PARKING A CAR PER SPACE. A SPACE IS EXPENSIVE. ALLOWING MORE ADUs. CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN WHERE YOU CAN DO THEM LIKE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WHERE THEY ARE ALREADY INCLUDED. BUT THE ADU, WHERE APPROPRIATE, CREATES A MORE AFFORDABILITY SITUATION. YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY SINGLE PARENT. YOU KNOW YOUR MOTHER LIVES IN AN ADU ON THAT PROPERTY. REDUCE THE BURDEN FOR THEM TO FIND A HOME FOR $300,000 OR $400,000. WHEN THEY PAY RENT OR DON'T PAY RENT, MAKES MORE FINANCIAL SENSE. WITH -- YOU SAID $240 MILLION, I THINK, PER YEAR IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE INVESTING. I THINK IF WE LOOK AT THE PARKING MINIMUM, ELIMINATING THEM WHERE WE CAN, ALLOWING FOR MORE ADUs AND BUILDING -- AS YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING, BUILDING IN THE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT -- WHERE THEY ARE LACKING DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY -- BECAUSE YOU GET INTO THE BAD WORD OF "GENTRI "GENTRIFICATION." NOT GENTRIFICATION. INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITIES AND SAYING PEOPLE CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY THERE. THEY CAN WALK TO WORK. THEY CAN RIDE THE BUS. THEY ARE ON A BUSY -- WHEN YOU TALK OF TRANSIT-READY CORRIDORS. PLACES LIKE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE. EAST OF THE INTERSTATEMENT. BUSY COMMERCIAL AREA. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE. YEAH, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN CHANGING CODES AND MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE. A CONCERN OF MINE THAT I HAVE NOW IS. WE SAW THE PEAK OF THE HOUSE MARKET THROUGH COVID. WE SAW PEOPLE COMING TO FLORIDA. WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE LEAVING FLORIDA. INTEREST RATES GOING UP. AND WITH THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION INTEREST RATES WILL BE GOING DOWN. MY CONCERN IS INTEREST RATES COME DOWN TO A POINT WHERE IT IS SO CHEAP TO BORROW MONEY IN COMPASSION TO WHAT IT HAS BEEN WILL WE BE FLOODED WITH INVESTIGATORS COMING IN. MAJOR CORPORATIONS BUYING UP THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. THEY ARE KILLING THE AFFORDABILITY -- KILLING THE AMERICAN DREAM AND CREATING A REN THAT WILL COMMUNITY. WHEREAS -- WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ECONOMY WITH THE INTEREST RATES. AND IS THERE THAT FLOW OF MONEY WE SAW DURING COVID? WE SAW A LOT OF -- A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE DIDN'T SEE. NOW YOU READ ABOUT PEOPLE ARE KNACKSED OUT ON THEIR CREDIT CARDS. THEY MIXED BORROWING CAPACITY AND A LOT OF ECONOMIC FACTORS AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE INCOMES TWO YEARS ECONOMICALLY. THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BILL COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS HOUSING NEEDS STUDY BECAUSE WHAT IS THIS SHOW IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE LDC IS PERFECTLY ALIGNED WITH THIS STUDY. BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT. I KNOW THAT YOU WERE AT TAMPA HEIGHTS LAST 90 TALKING OF THIS VERY THING. I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A RUNDOWN MISS SHARPE YET, BUT SHE WAS THERE. THIS IS THE TOPIC OF SOME OF THE CENTRAL DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY WANT TDENSITY. THEY WANT TO SEE THE INCREASES. AS WE GO FORWARD TO THE COMP PLAN AND BEFORE WE SEAT LDC, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DOE? I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THERE IS A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT. BUT IN THIS WORKSHOP SESSION WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO GO ON OR TO DOOR TODAY. I WITH A TONIGHT SAY THIS IS REALLY ALIGNED WITH EXACTLY THE KIND OF STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT AND HEARD ABOUT IN MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT SESSIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD OVER THE SUMMER AND A GREAT PRESENTATION AND SHOWS THE EXACT SAME THING WE SHOWEDED THIS S-- SHOWEDED THIS SUMMER AND NEED TO SEE INCREASE IN DENSITY IN KNEES AREAS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THE COMP PLAN AND THE LDC CHANGES AS WE GO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND CONSULTANTS TO WORKED ON THIS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. I THINK MOST F /* /* MOST OF US ARE DATA GEEKS AND THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. MOST OF THE DATA IS UP TO DATE WHICH IS GREAT. THE HOMEOWNERSHIP RATE ISSING. >> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH TAMPA SCORE GOOD. AND WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR IF POLICY. IT IS EMBARRASSING IN SOME WAYS. NOT THE FAULT OF FOLKS HERE OF STRATEGY OF HELPING PEOPLE BUY MORE HOME. BUT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF UP NATION. IF MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVING INTO FLORIDA WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE INFLATION OF HOUSING BECAUSE OF THE DEFENSE MANAGED WE CAN'T CONTROL. WE ARE NOT LIKE A COUNTRY THAT WE CAN CONTROL OUR BORDERS. IF SOMEBODY FROM THE NORTHEAST WANTS TO MOVE HERE, THEY CAN MOVE HERE. WE CAN'T STOP THEM. I KNOW PEOPLE WANT US TO STOP THEM, BUT WE CAN'T. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WITH THE DATA -- ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS A TOP REALTOR IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. SAID HE HAS 12 LISTINGS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND WANT TO MOVE. AND ONLY A COUPLE FROM PEOPLE MOVING IN. ANDY IS HERE FROM THE REALTORS. BUT ANECDOTALLY I AM HEARING FROM REALTORS, A PROLIFERATION OF PEOPLE MOVING OUT. PART OF IT, THEY ARE FILLED UP WITH THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS AND BROKEN ROADS AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL, THEY CONSIDER THAT AN EXTRA TAX. SOME OF THE IT THE PEOPLE -- THEIR COMPANIES WON'T LET THEM WORK REMOTELY. OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS WANT TO LEAVE BALLS THEY DON'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC. WE GOT TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. I THINK THAT WILL AT LEASTS HAVE A SHORT-TERM IMPACT AND COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO MENTIONED THE INTEREST RATES AND EVERYTHING. ALL THANK YOU PROVIDING A SLUGGISHNESS TO THE MARKET 2% COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY 8% TO 10% OR WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK SOMEHOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE INVENTOR TEMPORARY A-- INVENTORY AND HOW IT IS CHANGING. THEY HAVE THESE ALGORITHM THAT COLLATE AND PREDICT BECAUSE REALTIME CHANGES BASED ON WHAT THE MARKET AVAILABILITY IS. MAYBE THERE IS A WAY TO TIE INTO ONE OF THOSE AND MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE THAT. I WONDER IF RENTAL RATES HAVE MOVED UP BECAUSE OF OUTLIERS. LIKE AT WATER STREET, THEY ARE $65600 A MONTH. I WONDER HOW MUCH THE OUTLIERS IN THE EXPENSIVE AREA BUILT ARE THROWING OFF SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS. MY SON HAS JUST LOOKED FOR RENT AND HE COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING UNDER $200 FOR A SINGLE BEDROOM OR STUDIO IN SOUTH TAMPA. IF SOMEBODY KNOWS OF ONE, LET ME KNOW. AN ISSUE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. I DON'T BELIEVE -- WE SAID THIS BEF BEFORE. DEVELOPERS SAYS IT LIKE A SPEED BUMP. TAKES LONGER TO GET THE DEAL DONE. THE CAPITAL MARKETS IF THEY GET ACCESS TO CAPITAL, THEY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU HAVE TEN BUILDINGS AND 20 MORE UNITS WHY GIVE 20 OF THOSE UNITS INSTEAD OF 10. MORE ON MARKET IF SOME BUILDINGS CAN GO UP TO MAXIMUM CAPACITY, LET ALL OF THEM DO IT BALLS -- IF YOU LOOK AT SUPPLY AND DEMAND. PROBLEM WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT TRANSIT READY DEVELOPMENTS WITH NOTES AND CAME WITH TRANSIT-READY CORRIDOR. I KNOW THATA PHILOSOPHY IN PLAN. THEY ARE OKAY WITH BUILDING IN TRANSPORTATION NODES AND POSSIBLE KEPT OF DENSITY. BUT NOT HIGH DENSITY. THE EXAMPLE IS DALE MABRY WEST OF KENNEDY. THERE ARE PARTS WHERE THEY WILL BE OKAY BUT TRY TO DO A LAND GRAB AND DO THE WHOLE THING. OTHER PLACE THAT PEOPLE WILL DO TOPICS. PLANNING COMMISSION HACKS TOLD US BEFORE WE ARE LOSING OUR INDUSTRIAL LAND. A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL LAND SOUTH OF GANDY WAS TAKEN BY HOUSING. AND IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN JOBS. I DON'T BELIEVE IN TAKING A AWAY PARKING MINIMUMS NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVE IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD, BUT NOT NOW. ON ADU, CHANGE THE RENTAL POLICIES. WE NEED MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS. WE ARE GRANDFATHERED INTO THAT AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND THEN ALSO FOR ADU PZ. NEED TO FIND WAY FOR PEOPLE TO BUY THEM. THEY CHANGED RULE. AND WE ARE BUILDING THE SAME THING. CONNIE BURTON BROUGHT THEM UP. THEY WANT TO BUILD THEM BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. VERY GOOD. I SAY DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID. WHAT IS A "COTTAGE COURT?" >> EVAN JOHNSON. I WAS HOPING YOU DIDN'T ASK. NO IT IS A DEVELOPMENT TYPE THAT IS AT THIS POINT DRY -- A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE WITH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AROUND A OPEN AREA GREEN SPACE WITH SINGLE-FAMILY IN THE BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOKS LIKE A MOTEL. >> EVAN JOHNSON: NOT A MILES TO WAY TO SAY IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [LAUGHTER] BUT I SAW THAT LANGUAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO EXPAND IT TO DIFFERENT AREAS, NOT THE ONES WE HAVE NOW. NOT THE WHOLE CITY, BECAUSE THAT WON'T WORK. A LOT OF VACANT LAND IF YOU AUTO US YOUR BACK YARD IN SOME CASES ENOUGH TO BUILD A ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BATH HOUSE IS NO PROBLEM. BUT IF BUT PARK, EVERYONE IS STILL GOING TO HAVE A CAR, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEAKING YOUR LOVE LANGUAGE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN WALK FROM THERE. BUT MAYBE PUT PADS INTO THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING, BUT THIN HAVE THE PERCOLATION OF THE WATER GOING DOWN NOT OUT TO THE STREET BECAUSE THE MORE PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, ANY CITY THAT YOU LIVE IN WILL CAUSE MORE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. YOU NEED A PAD TO PARK THE CHAR. I CAN TELL YOU WHERE I LIVE INFORM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE OR SIX HOUSES GOT SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT CARS PARKED ON THEIR LAND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE OF THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE CITY LINES. THE ODDNESS HOW WE ARE MADE UP. IT IS DIFFICULT TO EXTRAPOLATE AN INTELLECTUALLY HONEST ASSESSMENT IF WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THE CITY, BECAUSE SO MUCH -- YOU THINK ABOUT AREAS IN TOWN AND COUNTRY AND CARROLLWOOD THAT ARE CLOSER TO OUR URBAN CORE THAN THAT MUCH CONGRESSMAN VIERA IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. AND DON'T HAVE A ARBITRARY WALL BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY IN SOME OF OUR AREAS. SOME OF THE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY ARE NOT PART OF THE HOUSING MARKETS. SO IT WILL BE ALMOST A SHAME WE DON'T HAVE MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE AREA MARKET SIMILAR TONIGHT DATA YOU JUST SHOWED THAT REFLECTS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AREA. >> EVAN JOHNSON. WITH THAT, THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP DID PUT TOGETHER A REGIONAL LOOK. I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT IS AVAILABLE ON WEB SITE. NOT WHITE AS MUCH DETAIL WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE BUT GIVES A ESSENTIALS OF INTERDEPENDENCY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I SPAYED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THE CITY. GO NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND ASK THEM WHERE TO PUT DENSITY. YOU SAID WE WILL HAVE A SHORTAGE OF 14,000 TO /* /* TO 15,000. AND 25,000 ON THE WAITING LIST AND 25000 THAT HAVE GIVEN UP. HOW CAN YOU COMPARE YOUR 14,000 TO 15,000 TO THAT? >> EVAN JOHNSON: I THINK WITH THE WAITING LIST OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IT WILL REFLECT WHO IS HERE NOW. IN THE CHARTS, 20,000 TO 25,000 PEOPLE PAYING MORE THAN THEIR INCOME, THAT THE CURRENT TOTAL, FULL. THE CURRENT NEED. 14,000 OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS WITH THE GROWTH THAT IS PROJECTED IS ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS. >>BILL CARLSON: 14,000 PLUS 25,000. >> EVAN JOHNSON: CORRECT. >>BILL CARLSON: MORE LIKE 250,000. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST PERSON STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BY ALISON HEWITT. >> GOOD MORNING. OH, CRAP, I LEFT MY MAP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW YOUR MINUTE HAS ALREADY STARTED. ALISON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? >> SURE. >> ALISON HEWITT, RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OPENER IN EAST TAMPA. I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE SEVERAL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE. ON EAST TAMPA. HE KNOW A LOT OF SENIORS ARE BEING APPROACHED EVERY DAY TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY. PROPERTY TAXES ARE INCREASING AND INSURANCE IS INCREASING. WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE DO IS TEAR DOWN THEIR HOME ON LARGER LOTS AND PUT IN EITHER A SING MOTORCYCLE -- TOWN HOUSES OR FOUR PLEXES. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE UNABLE TO DO THAT IN THIS CURRENT WAY, BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO DO A PD. THEY CAN'T AFFORD FOR REDEVELOP THEIR -- THE PROCESS. THE RECOMMENDATION FOR RESIDENTIAL BY RIGHT IS EXCELLENT. THE ALREADY PREAPPROVED MOD SELLS E -- MODELS ARE EXCELLENT TOO BECAUSE IT WILL CUT DOWN IN COSTS. AND THINGS WILL MITIGATE GENTRIFICATION. IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA, A STIGMA FOR THE DUPLEXES. I THINK IF THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE THESE REQUESTING MISSING MIDDLE" THAT THE CITY IS REVIEWING, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE SOME DENSITY AND APRIL LOW FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE -- ALLOW FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE. RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MR. THAN ONE APPROVAL FOR THE LIGHT TECH FUNDING THAT GALLONS VERY WELL. BALLS RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A FUNDING SETTLE WITH TALLAHASSEE. IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE CYCLE HERE AND DON'T MEET THE ONE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU COULD BE P POTENTIAL ALLY FOUR YEARS BEHIND IN PLYING FOR A TAX CREDIT. RECOMMENDATION OF MORE THAN ONE WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TAX CREDITS FROM TALLAHASSEE THAT WILL COME DOWN HERE TO THE TAMPA AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONSES THAT WILL HELP WITH MITIGATION, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME, THIS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES AND FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF WE ARE JUST GOING TO DO IT UNDER THE MULT MY MODAL CORRIDOR, THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS UP CREASING THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE CITY TO PROVIDE NOT JUST IN THE CITIES BUT THE CORRIDORS. DOING THE PROPOSAL FOR YOURS THAT WE INCREASE AND TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MISS HEWITT. STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BILL JASON RICKMAN. >> I JUST WANT TO SHOW THIS. THIS IS OLD AND IT WAS IN MY FOLDER AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, CITIZEN OF TAMPA THE GROWTH OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST BASICALLY NOT A HECK OF A LOT. 200 OF THEM OVER THE COURSE OF SIX SIX YEARS IS NOT A WHOLE LOT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. SHORT-TERM RENTALS PULLING THEM FROM THE LONG-TERM MARKET. WE OBVIOUS LEAVE LEAVE LONG-TERM RENTALS BUT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED TO DEATH OF OF MAKING ALL THAT MONEY. WHEN MR. JOHNSON PUT UP THAT PRETTY PINK MAP, HOW DAKIN DARK MacDILL WAS BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE ARE LARGE FAMILIES. SO WHEN I COME IN HERE AND SAY WE DON'T NEED ONE TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS, I THINK THAT MAP REINFORCES THAT. REDEVELOPABLE LAND. I WAS KIND OF OFFENDED WHEN I SAW THE AMERICAN LEGION PROPERTY ON THAT REDEVELOPABLE LAND. YES, THEY OWN 26 ACRES ON THAT PENINSULA, BUT MOST OF IT IS SWAMP LAND. VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS SWAMP LAND. I WILL SAYS THERE PROBABLY QUITE A BIT -- A BIG CHUNKFUL NONREDEVELOPMENTABLE LAND ON THAN MAP. VACANT LAND IS NOT ALWAYS FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, FOR SHALL IT BE. YOU KNOW WHAT, A GREAT TO START BY GOING FORWARD WITH A HABLE HOUSING UNITS IN THE CITY GET ROME YARD MOVING. 2021. WE ARE STILL NOT GETTING IT DONE. CLEAN CLENDENIN JASON RICKMAN FOLLOWED BY KEEL LA McCASKILL. >> ALL RIGHT, HELLO, AGAIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> JASON RICKMAN. I AGREE WITH THE PREAPPROVED BUILDING PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENTERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE" MISSING MIDDLE." I LOVE THAT. I AGREE ALLOWING DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES AND FOURPLEXES. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. SO THIS IS IN DISTRICT 5. THIS IS A FOUR-UNIT. THIS IS AN EIGHT-UNIT. THEY ARE BOTH ON 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOTS. ZONED RS-50. IT IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOWLS THAT IS TYPICALLY WHAT IT IS RESERVED FOR. I THINK IF WE COULD HE WAS CUT A LOT OF THE RED TAPE AND ALLOW US TO BUILD STUFF LIKE THAT NOT JUST IN THE CORRIDORS -- I KNOW THIS HOUSE ON FOURTH AVENUE. IT DOESN'T LEAD NIPWHERE. FULL GO WEAPONS, IT. DEAD ENDS AT NEW CONSTRUCTION CAN'T JUST BE THE CORRIDORS. IT HAS TO BE LIKE -- IN EAST TAMPA. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A 7,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOT WHO WANTS TO BUILD A MULTIUNIT BECAUSE THEY GET $1500 SSI. IF THEY WERE ALLOW BUILD LIKE THIS, THEY COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. NOT ONLY WILL THEY AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BORROW MONEY FROM THE CITY TO SUBSIDIZE THE HOUSING. FHA LOAN -- IF YOU A APPLY FOR AN FHA LOAN, THEY GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR EACH ADDITIONAL UNIT UP TO FOUR. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND MATE G-- MINT GATE A LOT OF THIS STUFF AND CUT THE RED TAPE. YESTERDAY I WAS AT HANNAH STREET AND SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY IN ZONING AND HE SAID I AM NOT SURE HOW I FEEL OF LIVING NEXT TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I ASKED HIM DO YOU HAVE A HOUSE IN THE CITY? HE SAID NO. I SAID DO OFF HOUSE IN THE COUNTY, HE SAID NO. HE SAID HE CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE. THE CITY EMPLOYEES CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THAT'S IT. CLEAN CLEN-- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU LEAVE THAT PICTURE. WHEN WE ARE DONE I WANT TO ASK STAFF THAT. THAT ONE PICTURE -- >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA McCASKILL. 14,000 FUTURE. 25,000 CURRENT IS THE NEED IN THE CITY. THOSE NUMBERS ARE ALARMING. THESE STUDIES WE SAW -- SAME STUDDI LAST YEAR, $300,000 FOR THE STUDY LAST YEAR. NOW THIS YEAR. WE KNOW THE ISSUE. WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. CITY CAN'T ADD THOSE UNITS. WE GET IT. THE CITY CAN'T ADD UNITS BY THEM 70s. WE TALKED OF PARTNERSHIP. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUT-OF-THE-BOX NUMBERS OF HOW TO GET TO THE NUMBERS WE NEEDED. OUR MAYOR HOME RUN AN AGGRESSIVE COLE OF 10,000 UNITS YEARS AGO. NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY PROVIDED AN UPDATE. THEY WERE AT 250. ON THE AGGRESSIVE GOAL OF 10,000 UNITS. HOW DO WE GET TO THE REAL NUMBERS? IN THIS WORKSHOP, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, MR. JOHNSON, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING ANDTHEY COME HERE ASK INFORMATION HOW THIS GET THAT. YOU WERE TOLD TO DO PUBLIC-PRIVATE PROPRIETORSHIP. WORKING EXISTING OWNER'. NOT BILLS OWNERS OR IF YOU WEALTHY PEOPLE. THEY ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO THEM THEIR AREA. NEVER BEEN HERE 20 ALREADY 30, 40, 50 YEARS. THEY SAID I WOULD LIKE ADD TO THE NEED IN THIS AREA OOFLZ TUGS LIEU PARTICULARLY WHAT YOU CALL EAST TAMPA BUT BEN SAL. IF WE WORK NEBRASKA. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND PARTNERING WITH THESE OWNER PARTNERING WITH THE NEW DEVELOPERS AND OUT-OF-BOX APPROACHES WILL BE VERY CAREFUL. ME ALONE WITH THE DEVELOPER I HIRED, WE HAVE 600 UNITS THAT WE HAVE THAT WICKE CAN PROVIDE. DON'T SEE THE EGO RESPONSIBILITY OF WAITING A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CLT OR THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST. IN THE LAST HOUSING NEEDS OF ASSE ASSESSMENT, A LOT OF ROBUST DISCUSSION ON INCLTs. I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT COME BACK TO TCREATIVE USE OF THE FINANCIG WHERE THEY CAN QUALIFY AND HAVE TWO OR OWE THREE TEN AMOUNTS OR WHATEVER IT IS AND EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH SWING THAT DOES THAT AND ASSISTS NGETTING ADDITIONAL STOCK. ADUs, IF THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB. IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO THE USAGE OF ADDING THE ADU ON THEIR LAND. IF IS THE NOT IN THERE IF YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT TO THE HOME VIA THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BISHOP MICHELLE B. ATY. >> BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR RECOGNIZING EAST TAMPA. WE KNOW MANY PEOPLE, THESE ARE HOMES THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM BEGIN RA BEGIN -- THEM BEGIN RATIONS AND PASS -- THEM BY GENERATIONS AND DON'T HAVE CODE ENFORCE TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES TO TAX THEM OUT. WHEN YOU BUILD BIG HOMES AROUND SMALLER HOMES, IT DRIVES UP THE TAXES. WE SAY AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE FOR WHOM NUMBER WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR AREA AND INCOME. MANY PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN GET AN APARTMENT BECAUSE THE LANDLORD IS REQUESTING THAT THEY MAKE THREE TIMES AS MUCH OF THE RENT. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE WORD "AFFORDABLE." ASK THE QUESTION, AFFORDABLE FOR WHOM. YES, WE NEED TO BE BUILDING OUT HERE. BUT WE KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN ALMOST NOT AND DO NOT WANT TO SELL THEIR FAMILIAR LEGAL HOPES AND SHOULD NOT BE FORCED A OUT OF THEIR FAMILY HOMES. MORE HELP FOR THOSE PEOPLE BALLS A LOT OF THEM ARE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND WE ARE TALKING OF SENIOR WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP THE HOMES UP AND MAY BE ONE STREET OUT OF THE CRA AND THEY STILL NEED HELP LOOK OUT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY INTACT THAT WANTS TO BE INTACT. I AM GLAD WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS. SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. YES, PEOPLE WANT NEW HOMES BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE. DO THEY NEED THEM? MOST DEFINITELY. WAITING LIST IS STAGGERING. IT USED TO BE IF THE FAMILY DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE TO STAY, AT TAMPA HOUSING AND IN A PLACE A WEEK SORE. TALKING OF YEARS PEOPLE ARE FALLING OFF THE WAITING LIST AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE REALLY ON THE STREETS HOMELESS. SO WE LUMP THAT IN TOGETHER WHERE YOU ARE FORCING PEOPLE TO BE HOMELESS HAPPY THAT THE COUNCIL IS PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE. THAT WE ARE DOING FINE THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. MISS YOUNG. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS NIA YOUNG AND I'M A REST OF TAMPA HEIGHTS. I WANT TO TAP THIS MR. EVAN JOHNSON FOR THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS GREAT. I WAS AFFIDAVIT TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND HE GAVE A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION. SO I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT. WE KNOW THIS, CENTRAL TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, A LOT OF AREAS WITHIN DISTRICT 5 HAVE A HUGE NEED FORKED FOR FOAFFORDABLE HOUSING. OUR FAMILIES WHO CAN'T AFFORD FOR STAY IN HAIR HOMES NEED RELIEF NOW. IF WE ARE TO ADDRESS THIS HOUSING CRISIS IT WILL TAKE BIG IDEAS AND BOLD SOLUTIONS. WE ARE TALK A LOT OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND TRIPLEXES AND DUPLEXES. LET'S ACT ON THAT AND NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IT, BUT MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEOWNER AND SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS IN AT AREA THAT SEE THE NEED AS WELL AND WANT TO FIND A WAY TO ALEVE YAFT T-- ALLEVIATE IN AND WANT O HELP. RUNNING INTO RED TAPE OR ISSUES. HOW DO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND GIVE BACK TO PEOPLE WHO CHANT TO FIND HOUSING. WE NEED TO ENGAGE THEM. I AM HAPPY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND, AGAIN, LIKE BISHOP PATTY WAS SAYING, WE ARE ACTUALLY BEING PRBEINGPROACTIVE REACTIVE. NOT STOP FOCUSING ON THE HOUSING AND THINK OF WHAT IDEAS, HOW CAN WE REALLY STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX AND WHAT SOLUTIONS WE CAN REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS BECAUSE A HUGE HOUSING CRISIS. NOT JUST IN TAMPA BUT EVERYONE. NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION HOW WE CAN HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU. YOU ALL ARE DOING GREAT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MISS YOUNG. ANDY DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? I SAW YOU STANDING THERE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? HE ALREADY SPOKE. JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY. TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS, WE HAVE SIGN-IN YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED IN AND EXPECT TO SPEAK ON AGE I'M. >> ANDY SCAG LIE OWN KNEE, I WAS NOT GOING TO SLEEP, BUT I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME POINTS THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID. ACTUALLY GOOD NEWS. RENTS ARE GOING DOWN. AND THIS IS REALTIME WHAT HE MENTIONED. SOME OF THE DATA THAT IS PRESENTED IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE CITY IS NOT IN REALTIME. AND SECONDARY, THE EFFECT OF RENTS IS DEFINITELY GOING DOWN WITH ONLY BE DISCLOSED WITH THE CITY'S REPORTS. FOUR TO SIX WEEKS FREE RENT CONCESSION ON ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING UP CURRENTLY. SO IN ALL FAIRNESS WHEN THEY SAID RENTS REASONABILITY STABILIZING OR REASONABILITY GOING DOWN. ACTUALLY, NO, THEY ARE GOING -- THERE IS DEFENSEINITELY A SUPPL DEMAND OCCURRENCE WHEN PROJECTS CAME ONLY ONE TIME AND. THIS THE TIMELINE. THE SUL PLY SUPPLY AND IMBALANCE. VERY LITTLE IN THE I'M PIPELINE BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL MARKETS BEING FROZEN HOP HOW DO YOU WE GET ENTRANCE CONTINUE AND COMING DOWN. MAXIMIZE GEMS TEASE. CHANNELSIDE. SOUTH TAMPA AND GANDY AREA. SO, YES, AND SO ANYWAY, I WANT TO MAKE THOSE POINTS. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK. BUT WHEN I HEARD -- I WANT TO GIVE GOOD NEWS AND GIVE A CORRECTION BASED ON RENTS CURRENTLY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH THE REFERENCE TO THAT PICTURE. PUT THAT UP FOR US. THIS IS JUST INTERESTING, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THESE BEING DEVELOPED. ESPECIALLY LIKE SOUTH TAMPA, HYDE PARK. YOU SEE THIS TYPE OF HOUSING. BLEND SEEMINGLY. YOU END UP HAVING GEMS TEE THAT HE IS RELEVANTLY TRANSPARENT. SINGLE DOOR ENTRY. ARE ZONING -- IT A MARKET-DRIVEN THING THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT DEVELOPING THESE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY. I WOULD LIKE ANSWER THAT QUESTION THEY A COUPLE OF WAYS. I LIVE ON A STREET THAT HE HAS SINGLE-FAMILY. TWO SQQUADS. THESE WERE BUILT IN THE 1920s AND '30s. >> THE LAST 25S YEARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU EITHER HAVE THE LAND USE UNDERNEATH TO SPORT UNITS OR YOU DON'T. THEN YOU COME IN FOR A LAND USE CHANGE. WHEN WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE -- I WANT TO TALK THAT THE STUDY YOU SAW TODAY PRESENTED BY EVAN MAY REFERRED TO US. IT WAS DONE BY A CONSULTANT. IT IS DATA. AND ANOTHER TOOL WHILE WE ARE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS PLAY INTO THAT. WE HAD A LINGERING DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF PDs TO BUILD THIS TYPE OF HOUSING, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED, BEFORE THAT SOMETIMES THE MARKET HAS ACTUAL LEGAL -- ACTUALLY THE MARKET HAS LAGGED THIS BEING A FRUITFUL HOUSING TYPE. SEEING THIS AS WELL TO LOOK AT LAND, THE LAND USE, THE ZONING. HOW WAS IT CONSTRUCTED. WAS IT A ZONING CODE THAT ALLOWED IT. A SEPARATE ZONING THAT ALLOW IT. AND HOW THAT LOOKS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT EVAN AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON OPENING UP DIFFERENT TYPE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW WE COME IN WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE TO ADDRESS THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FASCINATING BECAUSE YOU SEE THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN MIAMI MA SEE-- IN PA CEIA, HYDE PARK. SINGLE-DOOR ENTRY SEEMS RELATIVELY TRANSPARENT AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE NOT THANK EXPENSIVE TO CONSTRUCT BECAUSE FOUR EXTERIOR WALLS AND ONE ROOF. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE DID PULL -- SORRY, JUST TO ADDED TO THAT. WE PULLED PDs AND HOUSING TRENDS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, BUT IT HAVEN'T BEEN THAT A LOT OF THI IS NEW CONSTRUCTION. MAJORITY OF THIS -- I AM NOT SAYING THIS HAVEN'T OR NOT COP STRUCKED BUT COMES FROM THE HOUSING SFROK '-- STOCK FROM $'30s, '40s AND '50s. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR HOUSING STOCK. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW. >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE CLAIRE CLENDENIN SAID, THESE ARE ALL OVER HYDE PARK. TWO OR THREE OF THEM IN THE LAST TEN YEARS NORTH OF HYDE PARK VILLAGE. FROM THE FRONT THEY ALL LOOK LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. AND THING MAY GET INTO -- INTO DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH I THINK THE STATE PREEMPTS. A WAY TO CHARACTERIZE MULTIFAMILY. LIKES A HOUSES TO DESCRIBE IT OR INCENTIVIZE. HELP US FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE THAT WOULD -- DEVELOPERS GET TRUST RA-- FRUSTRATED THEY WANT TONIGHT BUILD MULTIFAMILY. IF THEY BUILD MULTIFAMILY THAT LOOKS LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY THEY WILL GET APPROVAL MUCH MORE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL HELP THEM GET ULTIMATE APPROVAL. BUT YOU THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE BECAUSE MOST PLACES PEOPLE DON'T HAVE OPPOSITION TO IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: CHAIR -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ECLECTIC HOUSING CYCLE. I CAN'T SEE YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TRY TO KEEP YOU ON SCREEN SO I CAN SEE YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU ALL ARE ABSOLUTELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. PROBLEM IS MOST OF OUR LAND USE JUST DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THIS. THAT IS THE BIGGER PROBLEM HERE. AND WHILE IT SOUND NICE -- AND REALLY WHAT IT IS MASSING IN SCALE AND WE ARE BRINGING THAT FORWARD IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT WILL CHANGE. NOT A HEIGHT RESTRICTION. IT IS NOT A -- NOT OF WHAT IT CAN LOOK LIKE, BUT DOES IT FIT WITH THE MASSING AND SCALE OF THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD? AND THAT IS A HUGE PART. I DON'T KNOW THAT -- I THINK THESE ARE THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE CAN DO PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO KICK START THEM. I DID QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY ABOUT DOING THAT AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION, BUT DEFINITELY IN THE COMP PLAN, DEFINITELY IN THE LDC, WE HAVE TO START TALKING OF THIS TYPE OF HOUSING. FOLKS YOUNG PEOPLE ESPECIALLY KNOW THAT THEIR FIRST HOUSE WILL NOT BE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WITH A YARD. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL BE SOME TYPE OF TOWN HOME OR CONDO STYLE UNIT AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW HOW THIS BUILD THOSE WITHIN THE CITY AND TAKE STAFF AGAIN BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BUILD THESE TYPE OF HOUSING. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: INTERESTING IN A MASSIVE SCALE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. I AM LOOKING AT BETWEEN MacDILL AND HOWARD SOUTH OF SWANN, A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT ALSO A LOT OF SINGLE-STORY HOMES, REALLY SMALL HOMES. AND IT IS -- KIND OF LEADS TO T THATCH KIND OF ECLECTIC COOL VIBE. YOU HAVE THESE AND SMALL HOUSES AND MEDIUM HOUSES. A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT AN H HO-ZUHARS AMONG JUSTICE SCALE. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN OFF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BE HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER, AND YOU PLOP ONE YOU HAVE THOSE THREE-STORY RECTANGLES IN THE I HADLE. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. THAT IS WHAT MAXIMUM SCALE IS. IT IS NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T FLORIDA SMALL OR BUILD FUNKY. IT IS SAYING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT A RECTANGULAR BOX. WHATEVER YOU PUT IN SHOULD FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF IT IS THREE STORIES, IT NEEDS TO HAVE MAYBE SOME OF THE STYLE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HOUSE NEXT TO IT, NOT JUST A BOX. BECAUSE THE BOX STANDS OUT. A THREE-STORY WITH SOME -- WITH SOME GINGERBREAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS MORE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT'S IT. I THINK THAT IS MORE OF THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING. AS WE START TO HAVE MORE OF THESE CONVERSATION, MORE PHOTOS LIKE THE ONE THAT THE GENTLEMAN SHOWED. IF STAFF CAN FIND MORE OF THOSE. NOT JUST THE HOUSE ITSELF, BUT THE HOUSES AROUND IT. SO I SEE THAT -- I THINK IT WAS AN EIGHT-PLEX, SIX PLEX AND FOUR PLEX. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOUR AND AN EIGHTH. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS NEXT DOOR TO IT. CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE LOOK AT THESE IMAGES. THANK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU HIT IT. THIS COUNCIL HAS CHALLENGED THE ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPERS TO BRING US MORE ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT AND INTERESTING CONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN THESE TICKY-TACKY BOXES. BUT, AGAIN, ALSO THE ARGUMENT IS WHEN DOES IT START? IS THAT THE FIRST PROJECT OF HOUSING HE PLACEMENT THAT ENDS UP CREATING A FUNKY, COOL NEIGHBORHOOD AND AN AREA THAT MAYBE IT WAS JUST THE FIRST ONE BUT MAIN THERE WILL BE FOR FOLLOW TO FILL THAT OUT. SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT LAND USE AS WELL. HOW DO WE ARE DEVELOP A LAND USE OF WHAT THE FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 20 TO 30 YEARS COMPARED TO TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK EVERYTHING YOU ALL SAID PLAYS INTO THIS, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF DUPLEXES AND QUADS BUILT -- I WON'T NAME NAMES, BUT BUILT IN THE 90s. THAT LOOKED LIKE DUPLEXES AND QUADS. I THINK THE DISTINCTION ON THIS LOOKS -- HAS THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE OUTSIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO YOU DESCRIBE THAT AND PUT THAT IN THE CODE. IF -- THERE IS ONE IN HYDE PARK WITH A SENIOR CENTER, A BUNCH OF UNITS INSIDE BUT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ONLY THE OUTSIDE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE. ANYTHING ELSE? THEN I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT DISCUSSION ON A VERY IMPORTANT THING. OKAY. HERE WE GO. >> YOU EVAN JOHNSON.: CITY PLANNING. A TWO-FER. THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON THE COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN. IF WE CAN GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS WOULD BE HALF OF ITEM NUMBER 5. >> EVAN JOHNSON: THE OTHER HALF. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV, COASTAL ACTION PLAN. IF YOU CAN DO ME A FAVOR AND LEAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THE SCREEN SO I CAN SEE IF SHE IS TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION AND WE CAN SEE THE MONITOR FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. >> EVAN JOHNSON: OKAY, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THIS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE INITIATIVES THAT CITY PLANNING HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND AGAIN I WILL MAKE THE CAVEAT IN THE BEGINNING, THAT THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE HAVE BEEN USING THE INFORMATION DATA GATHERED TO HELP INFORM A LOT OF THE WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL MOVE US PRETTY QUICK. FEEL FREE TO STOP ME OR WE WILL TALK AT THE END, OF COURSE. SO JUST GOING TO COVER THE OVERALL PLAN AND, PURPOSE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT. SEVERAL TECHNICAL MEMOS THAT PROVIDED BACKGROUND ON VULNERABILITY OF AREAS WITHIN THE COASTAL AREA PARTICULARLY, BUT THE FINAL DELIVERABLES WERE TWO FOCUSED PLAN ON BOTH PAL MINTS T-- PALMETTO BEACH AND TH SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD. I WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE AND THEN MORE GENERAL OPERATIONS. MY REMOTE -- IS IT NOT WORK SOMETHING IN IF I CAN NOT ADVANCE THE SLIDE. I WAS DOING SO WELL. I GOT NOTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV, WERE YOU ABLE TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE FOR US? I DON'T THINK THAT WAS AN ADVANCEMENT. IT IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL PICTURE. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. >> EVAN JOHNSON: ALL RIGHT, SO THE PLANNED THE PURPOSE HERE -- ORIGINALLY FUNDED VIA A GRANT, A DISASTER RECOVERY JANET THAT CAME IN AND WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR ADAPTATION AND ADDRESSING FLOODING AND VULNERABILITY ISSUES SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS SOUTH OF GANDY AND IN PALMETTO BEACH. THERE WE GO. A NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES. WE DID NEIGHBORHOOD CHARETTES. WE DID FOUR OF THEM NEIGHBORHOOD TOURS AND WORKSHOPS AS WELL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. START OUR SOUTH OF GANDY. YOU KNOW THIS AREA DUE TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN THERE. THE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION AND THIS WILL COME UP A LITTLE LATER AS WELL, THAT SOUTH OF GANDY AND SOUTH TAMPA MORE GENERALLY BUT SOUTH OF GANDY IS VERY DIVERSE. IT IS VERY DIVERSE IN INCOMES AND SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. DOING SOMETHING THAT I KNOW NOUPT IS -- GETS PUT IN A BOX SOMETIMES. LOWER INCOMES, LOW TO MIDDLE INCOMES THAN SOUTH TAMPA AS A WHOLE. THROUGH OUR PROCESS, YOU SEE WE DID FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOPS. SO WE KIND OF FOCUSED RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDEAS BASED AND THOSE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. NOTHING HERE IS PROBABLY TO BE A SURPRISING. AND WE HAVE GOT THE BIG ONES THAT HAD YOU HEAR OFTEN: THE INFRASTRUCTURE STORMWATER FLOODING AND TRAFFIC ISSUES BEING BIG CHALLENGES. MULTIMODAL ACTIVITY IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A LOT. MacDILL STORMWATER PARK BEING COMPLETED WITHIN THIS TIME HORIZON OR TIME PERIOD, IT FEEDS THAT IDEA THAT, HEY, IS THERE A BELLY WAY OF LINKING SOME OF THESE GREAT GREENALS SETS ABSORBING STORMWATER THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA AND SHOUT OF GANDY. SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS AS VERY INTERESTING IDEA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. WE DID A SOCIAL VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT FOR EACH OF THE TARGET AREAS, FOCUS AREAS. AS YOU THINK SEE, AS I MINUT MENTIONED, THE CAC AND EPA CREATED THESE SOCIAL INLAND THE CAPERS AND THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT MAKE PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES MORE VULNERABLE. LACK OF ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION. LOWER INCOMES. HOUSING SITUATIONS. ETC. INCLUDING THINGS LIKE RACE AND ETHNICITY, YOU KNOW, MORE MINORITY POPULATIONS, ETC., CAN TRADIPRA TRADITIONALLY MAKE FOLKS MORE VULNERABLE WHEN COMBINED WITH OTHER FACTORS. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU BREAK DOWN THE GANDY AND SUNDAY BAY SOUTH. GANDY CIVIC IN THE MIDDLE THERE THEY MEET AREAS THAT ARE SOCIALLY VULNERABLE. WITH THE INCOME MIX, MIX OF LOWER AND MIDDLE-INCOME POPULATION. REPS OF THE AREA AS YOU CAN SEE IS DIFFERENT IN MAKE-UP. CORE AREA NORTH OF MacDILL WHERE YOU SEE VULNERABLE AND IT HAPPENS TO BE A PHYSICAL LEECHL VUM THEY BELIEVE AREA. LOOKING AT. I AM SURE YOU SEE A VARIATION OF THE MAP FOR A WHILE NOW. THE YELLOW AREA, WE WILL START WITH THAT AUTOMAKERS THE EVACUATION ZONE B. EVERYTHING ELSE IS EVACUATION ZONE B SOUTH OF GANDY. HAS TO EVACUATE OFTEN. VERY LOW-LYING AREAS AND, OF COURSE, AS WE DISCUSSED AND MENTIONED EARLIER MacDILL WITH A LOT OF FAMILIES AND EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE TO MOVE OUT PRETTY DUE TO STORM IMPACTS. FLOOD ZONES TELL A SIMILAR TALE. ONE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU SEE IN THE LIGHTER COLOR IN THE MIDDLE EVACUATION ZONE B. LITTLE HIGHER AREA. ONE DIFFERENCE THAT WAS MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WENT THEY UPDATED THE FEMA MAPS THAT YOU HAVE A B COAST. AN A ZONE. A IS TYPICAL THAT MOST OF SOUTH OF GANDY IS. COASTAL A IS RIGHT ALONG THOSE AREAS THAT AREN'T WATERFRONT NECESSARY SARSLY, BUT LOW ENOUGH AND COULD BE POTENTIAL LEGAL IMPACTED BY SURGE AND WAVES SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. SEA LEVEL RISE. SURGE AND FLOODS NOW IS NOT ENOUGH. THEY HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT VULNERABILITY FROM SEA LEVEL RILEY OVER TIME. ON MY LEFT WHICH IS 2040, GENERAL IMPACTS IN SOUTH OF GANDY ARE AT THE ME TO ME TO HIGH STAGE, WHICH IS LOOKING AT ONE TO ONE AND A HALF FEET OF ELEVATION FOR INCREASE. THIS ISES NECESSARILY COMING FR THE COAST YOU HAVE ABOUT BELOW AS THE SEA LEVEL RISES. LOOK AT 2080, IF YOU SEE THE HIGHER POTENTIAL OF SEA LEVEL RISE WHICH COULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUCH SIX TO SEVEN FEET. THAT IS VERY HIGH, THE NOAA HIGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PASSED THOSE OUT. IF YOU SEE THAT, YOU SEE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MacDILL HAS BEEN WORKING ON ADAPTATION PLANS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENT INVESTMENTS, BECAUSE THEY SEE THE MAPS AND SEAL THE FUT -- AND SEE THE IMPACTS. PAL MEANT TOE BEACH. ANALYSIS OF DEMOGRAPHICS AND ECONOMICS. I WANT TO POINT OUT A LARGELY MAJORITY HIS PANEL ISSIC POPULATION INSPECTION PALMETTO BEACH, AS WELL AS THE INCOMES HERE IN THIS OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD IS GENERAL RALEIGH MUCH LOWER THAN THE SOUTH GANDY NEIGHBORHOODS. PAL MEANT TOE BEACH. NOT UNDER LIKE PORT TAMPA, HAS NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. A LOT OF INTE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND NOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN, SAY, A LOCAL DISTRICT BECAUSE IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES OVER TIME. A LOT OF FLOODING ISSUES, NOT SURPRISING FROM HELENE PARTICULARLY. INUNDATION FROM PALMETTO BEACH. ALSO RECIGHT NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL WE HAVE OUR SOLID WASTE FACILITY. UP IN INDUSTRIAL AREA THERE OUT NEAR 34th STREET ON WEST YOU HAVE THE PORT. A LOT TRUCK TRAVEL TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE AREA AND SOME THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH AND AID HOSPITAL OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX IS HIGH FOR PAL M. METTO BEACH. AND THE 15% HAVE NO VEHICLE AT ALL. SO WHEN THINK OF VULNERABILITY TO STORM SURGE TO HAVING TO EVACUATE WHERE THE NUMBERS COME IN. A VERY VULNERABLE COMMUNITY AS WELL. EVACUATION ZONE A COVERS END TIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. NO EVACUATION ZONE B. THAT GALLONS UP TO IKEA AND OVER TO THE PORT. FLOOD ZONES, ONE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD ZONE AND THAT LIGHT COLOR KIND OF IN THE NORTH EAST PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS HIGH ENOUGH GENERALLY TO NOT BE CONSIDERED IN THE FLOOD ZONE OR FLOOD ZONE G. OR D ZONE X. SEA LEVEL RISE, SOUTH PALMETTO BEACH IS EXTREMELY LOW. YOU KNOW. YOU FEEL IT IF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE. IF YOU GO TO PALMETTO BEACH, LOW ON INCOME KAY BAY. RISK OF INUNTATIONING ON THOSE IMMEDIATE HIGH LEVELS IS REALLY HIGH. THAT IS A REAL IMPACT THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT LOOKING FORWARD TO INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY. STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS. I WILL GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY. THERE WAS THE BUILDING STANDARD DISCUSSION THAT INCLUDED INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF FREE BOARD WHICH IS HOW HIGH YOU MUST BUILD YOUR STRUCTURE ABOVE THE REQUIRED FEMA FLOOD ZONE. SO IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT 13 FEET MINIMUM, IT WOULD CAN UP TO 16 FEET WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION. LOOK AT THE NEXT TO LAST BULL LEAPT THAT TALKS OF OPEN FOUNDATIONS IN COASTAL A. KIND OF COMPLICATED BUT ESSENTIALLY REDUCING THE AREAS WHERE YOU ALLOW FOR FILL. FILL DIRT TO I WILL VENTILATOR N -- TO ELEVATE NEW STRUCTURES. MORE AREAS IN PALMETTO BEACH AND SOUTH OF GANDY WHERE WE SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED IT FILL DIRT TO BE AUTOPSIED. FILL DIRTP WATER AROUND VERY SULLS WATER FLOWING THROUGH DURING A SOME EVENT. STORMWATER. I WILL SAY THAT THE MAIN FOCUS ON THESE PARTICULARLY AROUND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. I BE I BELIEVE INCREASING. 50%. PERVIOUS. YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF STORM WATER ONLY YOUR SITE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. YOU WANT TO DROP THAT TO 40% TO RETAIN SOME STORMWATER. REPAIRING THE PALMETTO BEACH SEAWALL WITH THE HELP OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND CITY BUDGET COMMITMENTS. THAT WILL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HIM PROVING VULNERABILITY IN THE PALMETTO BEACH AREA. TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS. I WON'T INTO THE DETAILS OF THESE, BUT GOOD EXAMPLES HOW COMMUNITIES CAN COMMUNION THE CAPE BETTER WITH RESIDENTS IN VULNERABLE SITUATIONS. CAN EDGE THE C-- EDUCATE ABOUT RESOURCES AND HOW TO GET OUT IF THE SITUATION ARISES. NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENTS. NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS. A LOT OF FOR SOUTH OF GANDY AND PALMETTO BEACH TO FIND AREAS TO REINFORCE OUR AREA OF A NEIGHBORHOOD NODE AND WHERE WE HAVE RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, FACILITIES. POSSIBLY YOUR GAS STATION, ETC. THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT CONCEPT OF INTEGRATING THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PLANNING THAT GOES TO GO WITH THAT WITH PARKING, STORMWATER AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF STUFF. LAST BULLET I WANTED TO MENTION DELLS IG NATING SOUTH OF TAMPA AND GANDY BEACH OF WHAT IS ADAPTATION APPLICATION AREAS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED OR ENABLED BY THE STATE STATUTE AND ESSENTIALLY A TOOL FOR COMMUNITIES USE TO PRIORITIZE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS. A SCREEN OFTEN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING AND PRIORITIZES THESE AREAS AND RECOGNIZES THE VULNERABILITY. MULTIMODAL. AGAIN I KIND OF MENTIONED THE DISCUSSION OF CONNECTING THOSE GREEN SPACES AND FACILITIES WITH RAILS TO TRAILS. THERE ARE A LOT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THEM 70s AS POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS. AND I JUST WANT TO END TAMPA ON AN ACCOMPLISH SLIDE. SOME WE VERY MUCH AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE BEEN USING THE DATA AND ANALYSIS AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN OTHER INITIATIVES. AND SOME SINCE THIS STUDY ACTUALLY START WHICH WAS BEFORE I ARRIVED HERE AT THE CITY, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THAT TOP PULL LEAPT, WE FINISHED OUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. WE HAD A CLIMATE EQUITY APPLICATION PLAN. WORKING ON THE FULL WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN. SEAWALL REPAIR IS HAPPENING AND TO REDUCE DENSITY INCREASES IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. AND CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION HAS RELEASED GRANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT PURSUING FROM A PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION SYSTEM. FOCUSED AND VULNERABLE AREAS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY HURRICANES LABS YEAR. A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AND A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT KEEP WITH THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE SOCIAL ACTION PLANS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY EDUCATIONAL. SEE THE MAPS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS. REMEENLDZ US TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT DEVELOPMENT WE ALLOW. YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE. STORM SURGE, IT IS NOT MANAGEABLE. MOTHER NATURE WILL COME IN AND DEVASTATE AREAS. WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH PAL MEANT TOE BEACH. I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. PALMETTO BEACH IS HILLS FOR -- SIGNIFICANTLY HILLS TORFOR -- H. OTHER THE PALM BEACH NICOLE LAS OR THE YBOR CITY SPICOLAS. I KNOW THERE IS RESTRICTION WITH HISTORIC DISTRICTS AUTOMAKERS BUT SO MUCH HISTORY THERE. I AM GLAD TO SEE THE SEAWALL. YOU MENTIONED ALREADY WITH FAMILIES GETTING THAT DONE. FAMILIES WERE COMPLETELY DEVASTATED AND LIMIT RALEIGH LAST EVERYTHING. ANYWAY, YOU MENTIONED FILL DIRT, AND THE USE OF FILL DIRT. DOES THAT -- WHAT DOES THAT TO DO A FOUNDATION? DOES IT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT? DOES IT DESTABILIZE? >> EVAN JOHNSON: I AM NO EXPERT AND NOT A BUILDING OFFICIAL SO I CAN'T SPEAK OF THE TECHNICAL PART. FILL DIRT IS MADE EVERYWHERE IN FLORIDA. A WHOLE BUSINESS AND ECOSYSTEM BRINGING THIS TO BUILD UP, ELEVATE SITES. IT DOESN'T EFFECT. THEY BRING IT IN. PACK IT DOWN. SAME AS BUILDING ON YOUR REGULAR GROUND BUT SLIGHTLY ELEVATED TO MEET THOSE FLOOD STANDARDS. ISSUE WITH FILL DIRT COMPARED TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL OF YOU A HOUSE ON PIERS WHAT THEY CALL "BREAK AWAY WALLP WALLS THE BREY TYPE CONSTRUCTION. WATER IS ALLOWED AND REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO AUTOMAKERS FLOW UNDER A SITE. SO ESSENTIALLY IT WILL GO RIGHT THROUGH THE CAR PORT OR GARAGE AND THINK OF AN ELEVATED HOME WITH PIERS AND AN ENCLOSED GARAGE. THAT GARAGE IS DESIGNED WHEN THE SURGE GOES THROUGH THE WATER KNOCKS IT AND FLOWS TLUFS. FROM A FLOODING PERSPECTIVE, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT ARE REAL LEGAL VULNERABLE. THE BREAKAWAY WALL CONSTRUCTION AND THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION MAKES A DIFFERENCE HOW THE WATER FLOWS THROUGH THE AREA WHICH ULTIMATELY WATER MOVING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER CAN HAVE A BAD EFFECT OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN AREA. RECOMMENDED FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE COASTAL. VERY COASTAL. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS, LET'S LOOK AT THE MOST VULNERABLE AREAS AND MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER HAVING A CONVERSATION COULD IT BE EXPANDED TO MORE VULNERABLE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY IN HOMES OF GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE WORSE -- THE WORSE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH STORM SURGE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW, IT COMES DOWN TO -- JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION -- COMMON ESSENTIALS. IF I COULD LIVE ANYWHERE IN TAMPA, WHERE WOULD I LIVE. SO MANY BEAUTIFUL PLACES. THE MAP YOU SHOWED REGARDING THE STORM SURGE IS SO EYE OPENING THAT I AM LOOKING AT MYSELF GOING, WHEN THEY SAY SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL, SOUTH GANDY IS FULL, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, WHATEVER IT IS, I -- I LIKE TO GO TO BED AT NIGHT AND I LIKE TO SLEEP WOULDN'T WORRYING ABOUT THE NEXT STORM COMING IN OR A HEAVY AFTERNOON RAIN IN JULY. AND OR, GENT, T-- OR AGAIN, PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE COME AND GONL. NO STORMWATER SYSTEM IN THE WORLD CAN MANAGE X AMOUNT OF NUMBERS. THREAT HURRICANE. WHEN PLAYER CAME THROUGH IN 2017 -- AND I HAVE THE PHOTOS. I DROVE AROUND TAMPA. ESPECIALLY DOWNTOWN. TOOK PICTURES OF THE PLACES I LIKE. I TALKED TO MAYOR BUCKHORN WHO WAS MAY I DON'T REMEMBER AT THE TIME. HE SAID SOMETHING LIKE, WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE WORSE. AND TALKED TO DENNIS ROGERO WHO WAS CHIEFLY OF STAFF AT THE TIME. WATER WAS SUCKED OUT AND PEOPLE CLIMB OVER AND TAKING PHOTOS. UP SAID MOTHER NATURE IS COMING BACK WITH A VENGEANCE. LET ME PHOTOGRAPH WHAT I LIKE BECAUSE THIS WILL ALL BE GONE. PHOTOS FROM 192 1 WHERE IT SHOWS DOWNTO UNDER WATER. I THOUGHT THIS FIRST FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY FLOODED. I AM LIKE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORKING REGULAR MOATLY TO CONTINUE THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN WHAT WE APPROVE MOVING FORWARD. WE TALKED OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND INCREASING THE DENSITY. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. LOOK AT MIAMI AND HOW THEY HAVE EITHER HAD TO ELEVATE THE ROAD OR THE DEVELOPMENT -- TO SAY -- WITH A WATER VIEW. WE ARE -- YOU CAN TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. I THINK CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL AND NIBBLE I-- AND I BELIEVE IN IT. WHEN YOU BUILD IN AREAS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE. USED TO BE A SWAMP. NOW A LAKE OR POND FILLED IN AND THEN IT IS FULL HOMES. MESSING WITH A NATURAL PROCESS. YOU BILE A CAR AND HAVE AFTER-MARKET PARTS. VOIDING THE WARRANTY. WE ARE VOIDING THE WAR RAN SEE OF MOTHER NATURE. IT IS ALL BECAUSE OF GREED AND MONEY. WE CAN BUILD HERE AND HERE AND MAKE IT WORK OUT THEN HAVE ALL THE PROBLEMS PROBLEMS. I WILL SAVE YOUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE REMINDS ME IN FUTURE DECISION THIS DOESN'T MAKE ESSENTIALS. YOU ARE OVERBURDENING THE SYSTEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: HOW DO WE SIGN UP FOR THE ADAPTATION APPLICATION AREA? >> EVAN JOHNSON: THAT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION IN THE COMP PLAN WOULD BE TO DESIGNATE THOSE. >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T JUST DO IT WITH AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION? WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR COMP PLAN? >> EVAN JOHNSON: I WILL HAVE TO CHECK AND GET BACK YOU WITH. TYPICALLY DONE THROUGH THE COMP PLAN. WITH THE COMPLETION OF VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ORGANIZE A YEAR AGO, WE ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT MONEY TO DO MORE ADAPTATION PLANNING GRANT MONEY FOR THE STATE AND SOMETHING WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING INTO FOR PAL MEANT TOE BEACH RINGS A. >>BILL CARLSON: ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR ADAPTATION AREA I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT. >> EVAN JOHNSON: I WOULD WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTACT YOUR OUFLS. >>BILL CARLSON: STATEMENT HAD A PROGRAM CALLED ELEVATE THERE AND STOPPED RECENTLY. EVEN HOUSES THAT GOT NEXT TO EACH OTHER SOME PEOPLE GOT IN AND SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA, THEIR WAS GIVING GRANTING FOR PEOPLE TO LIFT THEIR HOMES. >> I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD. I CAN'T TELL BULL THE PROGRAM. >>BILL CARLSON: I WISH THE STATEMENT WOULD DO THAT BECAUSE EITHER PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF AREAS OR THEY WILL GET FLOODED ALL THE TIME OR BUILD UP. THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHOICES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK? ANY QUESTIONS? >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR ASKING. BY -- I JUST -- I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE BREAKAWAY WALL IS SOMETHING I AM HEARING FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY TOO AND GLAD TO SEE THEY IS BEING MENTIONED. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO GO AHEAD AND SET UP THAT ASSESSMENT AREA SO I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. I THOUGHT AN INTERESTING ONE -- AND I KNOW WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE -- IS TAKING -- ACQUIRING PARCEL THAT CAN SERVE AS STORMWATER STORAGE. I THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL THAT IS THERE, BUT I STILL THINK IT IS A GOOD AND INTERESTING IDEA. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" DID A REALLY INTERESTING STORY ON THE FLOODING IN ATLANTA. WANT TO SAIL IT WAS YEST-- SAY WAS YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE. TOOK A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FLOODED AND PURCHASED THE HOMES AND I WANT TO SAY A 15-ACRE PARK. PREPARED FOR STORMWATER AND STORM SURGE -- NOT STORM SURGE FOR THEM BUT FOR FLOODING ISSUES. ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING INTERESTING AND I REAL LEGAL APPR -- I REALLY PREACH YAPT IT. AND AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT THE SIT BRINGS UP ISSUES. THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. THE MORE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BACK BETTER IS, YOU KNOW, GOOD FOR US. FIXING PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND HAVING THEM FLOOD AGAIN. THAT IS JUST NOT -- ESPECIALLY A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN TODAY WAS THE DAY THAT HELENE HIT. AND I THINK ALL OF US NEED TO -- IT WAS INTERESTING TO WAKE UP THIS MORNING AND THINK ABOUT THAT. TODAY WAS THE DAY THAT SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES CHANGED. AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. BUT I AM GLAD THIS HAS HAPPENED. THAT STUDY IS FINALLY DONE. HOPE THAT ALL OF US CAN GET A COPY OF IT. I WOULD LIKE HARD COPY, IF POSSIBLE, JUST TOSS HAVE, TO REALLY BE ABLE TO BE LOOK AT AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO HELP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SO DEVASTATINGLY IMPACTED. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE NOON AND WE ONLY ACCOMPLISHED THREE ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK IT IS A WORKSHOP, SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL FOR THE INDULL AGA-- INDULGENCE WHEN THE -- IF WE LESS PONTIFICATE. WANT TO CALL OUT FOR COUNCIL. THEIR DESIRE TO WORK THROUGH LUNCH AND TRY TO ACCOMPLISH -- OR TAKE A LUNCH AND COME BACK. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GO REQUEST YOUR PLAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, OF GOING THROUGH AND DO WORK THROUGH LUNCH BUT WITH THE DIRECT GOAL GOAL OF BEING OUT HERE BY 1:15. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE JUST NEED TO ABBREVIATE OUR COMMENTS. I AM LOOKING AT YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOURCE QUIET UP THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM LOOKING AT YOU. YOU SOMEHOW GRABBED CHARLIE'S VOICE AND NOW YOU ARE CHARLIE JR. NOW. CHARLIE HAS BEEN SO KWAI YET THIS WHOLE MEETING. VERY GOOD. WE WILL TRY TO WORK THROUGH. FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE STEPHANIE POYNOR. KNOW PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR -- FOR FIVE BECAUSE IT WAS A COMBINED -- BETWEEN TAMPA HOPE AND COASTAL ACTION PLAN. HE WILL CALL IF YOU HAVE FIVE ON THERE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. STEPHANIE POYNOR IS NUMBER ONE. >> GOULD MORNING. I AM STUFF KNEE POYNOR. WANT TOP.OUT THAT THIS WAS NOT ON THE CITY ELSE WEB SITE AND NOT ONLY BAILS. I DIDN'T SEE THE FINAL OF IT IMPORTANT LITTLE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE THAT I THINK CAN BE COMPLETELY OVERLOOKED. AND IT WOULD TAKE NOT A WHOLE LOT TO EDUCATE THE ACCIDENTS LO LIVE SOUTH OF GANDY. THIS PAL MOTORCYCLE MET TOE BEACH WITH THE BIO SWALES, RAIN GUARDS, PERMEABLE PAVING. UP MANAGE ABOUT 150 HOWLSES OVER THE LAST SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS. I ONLY HAVE ONE HOWLS WITH A PERMEABLE DRIVE WRAY. I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. NATIVE LANDSCAPING. RAIN. WATER HARVESTING. GREEN ROOFS. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SMALL THINGS WE CAN DOING ONE HOUSE AT A TIME AND SO MANY NEIGHBORS WANT TO DO THINGS TO HELP WITH THE PROJECT. AND IF THE CITY CAN DO SOMETHING TO TRAIN FOLKS FOR THAT, THAT WILL BE VERY WONDERFUL. MORE PERMEABLE SURFACE. OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHEN THAT GENTLEMAN SHOWED THE PICTURE OF THAT MISSING MIDDLE, THE QUAD. I HAVE A QUAD. I HAVE A TRIPLEX. OWN TWO MISSING MIDDLE PROJECTS. AND BOTH THEM ARE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THOSE. AND HERE IS THE THING. THE PROBLEM IS, NOT THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS, BUT THE IMPERMEABLE SURFACE THAT THESE MONSTROSITIES THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW CREATE. THEY HAVE TO REQUIRE THE SAME IMPERMEABLE SURFACE FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON A SINGLE-FAMILY LOT. IF YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE GOING TO GET MORE OF WHAT THAT GENTLEMAN WAS SHOWING. THE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THIS AREA SHOULD ALWAYS TRAVEL WITH THE REZONINGS BECAUSE THEY -- WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD. NOT JUST A HYPOTHESIS. TRAILS VERSUS SIDEWALKS. THAT WAS IN THERE SOMEWHERE. THESE ARE MY NOTES I MADE MONTHS AGO WESTERN I GOT A ROUGH DRAFT DRAFT. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL IS CLOSEST SHELTER TO SOUTH OF GANDY. I TOOK SOMEBODY THERE. TOOK ME 45 MINUTES TO GET THERE. NOW I TOOK HER THERE, BECAUSE SHE HAD NO ACCESS AND WE COULD NOT GET HER ON A BUS TO GET THERE DURING THE LAST HURRICANE. ONE THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AND NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE CODE IS WE HAVE GOT TO ELEVATE THESE OPEN FOUNDATIONS. I AM HEARING WHISPERS, WHISPERS, THESE HOUSES THAT ARE BELT ON F -- BUILT ON HILLS WITH GAR RAGES THAT ARE STARTING TO CRACK. WITH THE FLOODING, THOSE GARAGES ARE STARTING TO CRACK. FILL IS MOVING UNDER THE FOUNDATION AND PEOPLE ARE BECOMING CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT IS NOT GOING TO COME OUT PUBLICLY FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT WILL DAMAGE THE VALUE OF PEOPLE'S HOMES. STOP BUILDING ON FILL. START DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. WHAT FEMA ENDORSES. THIS IS WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES. WE SHOULD DO IT ALL THE TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KEEL LA McCASKILL FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI. KEELA, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS IT ITEM? >> KEELA McCASKILL. NOT A LOT. I WANT TO SAY MY FAMILY IS SOUTH OF GANDY, RAISED. UP USED MY TOWNHOUSE AS AN EXAMPLE. EVEN IN THAT, WE ARE THREE FEET ABOVE FROM EVERETT TOWN HOMES. WE ARE HIGH UP, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WATER THERE. WE WEREN'T AS WORRIED AS THE DISABLED FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN PORT TAMPA, CLOSEST TO PICNIC ISLAND WHERE MANY OF THEM ARE STILL -- EVEN I AM NOT IN MY HOME STILL. MANY OF THEM ARE NOT. EVERY GOOD RAIN NOW, THEY ARE FLOODING. AND REDID -- THE ONES AT HOME, THEY REDID A WHOLE LOT IT FOR THEM TO REDO A LOT OF THINGS EVEN WITH GOOD RAIN TODAY. BEFORE THE NEXT HURRICANE BEFORE OCTOBER -- PROBABLY TO LATE FOR THAT. BUT PROBABLY BEFORE NEXT STORM, YOU IDENTIFY ANOTHER LOCATION BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ARE TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGED. THEY COULDN'T GET TO MIDDLETON. SO THEY MADE THE DECISION TO STAY HOME. WE HAD TO PULL THEM OUT OF THAT HOUSE ON A MATTRESS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FLOATING IN THEIR HOME AND THEY ARE DISABLED, MANY OF THEM DOWN THERE. WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO FIND ANOTHER STORM BEFORE ANOTHER HURRICANE HITS. FIND A CLOSER LOCATION BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET OUT. WE HAD CANOES. WE HAD MATTRESSES. WE HAD TO PULL PEOPLE OUT IN SOME VERY UNUSUAL SITUATIONS. IT WAS LIKE LIFE-CHANGING FOR MANY OF US AS WE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THAT. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY. TRY TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION AND SUPPORT WHATEVER IT ISES THAT WILL SUPPORT AREAS LIKE PORT TAMPA. BECAUSE IT WAS DEVASTATING TO SEE MANY, MANY SENIORS, MANY, MANY PEOPLE AFFECTED ALL BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WERE CRAMMED IN A SPACE. AND MOST OF THEM ARE TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU KEELA. STEVE MICHELINI. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. STEVE MICHELINI. LET ME SAY EVERY NEW PROJECT REQUIRES STORMWATER TREATMENT. EMPT NEW PROJECT. PREVIOUSLY, OTHER CONSTRUCTION DIDN'T REQUIRE IT. OLD CONSTRUCTION DIDN'T REQUIRE IT. SO WE ARE PLAYING A CATCH-UP GAME WITH STORMWATER TREATMENT. ONE YOU HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS THAT IS MAINTENANCE AND GETTING THE STORMWATER SYSTEMS CLEANED OUT AND HAVE THEM ACCEPTABLLE SO THAT WE CAN TREAT THIS STORMWATER THAT WE DO HAVE. A LITTLE BIT OF AN OFF-TOPIC HERE, BUT RELATED. EVERY ONE OF THE POLICE STATIONS AND THE FIRE STATIONS NEED TO BE HARDENED. MANY THEM FAILED, AS YOU KNOW. SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATORS. THEY SHOULD ALL HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATORS. EVAN HAS SOME GRANT SOURCE FOR FUNDING, THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. IF THEY NEED TO APPLY FOR AQUA DAM OR SOMETHING AROUND THE FIRE STATIONS, SO BE IT. WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT HIGH WATER VEHICLES. WE BORROWED THEM FROM THE SHOVELS. THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT YOU SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROTECT THE FIRST RESPONDER, THEN WHEN WE DOE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, WE ARE IN A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT SITUATION. TAMPA GENERAL, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE AQUA DAMS AROUND THEIR -- AROUND THEIR FACILITIES NOW. THEY DIDN'T FLOOD. AND ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND THEM FLOODED. SO, AGAIN, POLICE AND FIRE AND ALL YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS NEED TO BE PROTECTED. THEY NEED TO HAVE THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR, PARTICULARLY STATIONS WITH AMBULANCES. AND THE FIRE RESCUE STATIONS. AND IF YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE OUT WITH THE HIGH WATER VEHICLE, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM? THEY ARE STRANDED .SO ANYWAY. ON THE VE ZONES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. YOU CAN'T PUT FILL WITH A VELOCITY ZONE. YOU HAVE TO OSCILLATE AND HAVE BREAKAWAY WALLS. IF THERE IS FILL, IT IS NOT IN THE A VELOCITY ZONE. JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI. THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM AND WE WILL MOVE ON TOP -- SEE WHAT WE GOT. SB 180 FOLLOWED BY THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CHAIRMAN, ABBYE FEELEY, REAL QUICK. I KNOW THE TIME YOU JUST DISCUSSED. SO THE WAY WE KIND OF HAVE OUR PRESENTATIONS ORGANIZED, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THAT SENATE BILL 180 D UMBRELLA AND CONTAIN THE YBOR CITY RESERVATIONS, JULY 24 TEXT AMOUNTS, JULY 2025 -- I SHOULD HAVE SAID JULY 2024 TEXT APPLICATION. JULY 2525 TEXT AMENDMENTS. UNDER THE 2025 TEXT AMENDMENTS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT DISCUSSION. WE CAN KNOCK ALL YOU HAVE THAT OUT WHICH IS THE LAST ITEM OF THE LIVE LOCAL AS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN JUST ROCK AND ROLL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL JUST MAKE A CHAIR DECISION TO MOVE ON 180. COMBINE ALL THE ITEMS EXCEPT FOR THE LIVE LOCAL. >>ABBYE FEELEY: MY APOLOGIES AND DEEPEST RESPECT TO CLERK BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK GOOD WHEN WE HAVE ALL THIS. BUT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT ALL AT ONCE. I CAN HELP. WE NEED CERTAIN THINGS. SINCE IT IS NO MOTIONS AND IT IS A WORKSHOP, I THINK WE WILL BE OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE WILL BE OKAY. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE IN THE AFTERNOON. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: GOOD AFTERNOON, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. FIRST ITEM IS REGARDING SENATE BILL 180, WHICH AS MOSTS YOU KNOW, PASSED IN THE 2025 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WHILE IT WAS ENTITLED AND ACT RELATED TO EMERGENCIES, A COUPLE SECTIONS IN THERE, SECTIONS 18 AND 28 THAT EXTENDED BEYOND THE SCOPE OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND DISASTER RECOVERY. SO I WILL JUST READ DIRECTLY FROM EXCEPTION 28 IS WHAT IS RELEVANT FROM OUR CONSTITUTION THIS MORNING. AND THAT EXCEPTION APPLIES TO EACH COUNTY LISTED IN THE FEDERAL DISASTERS DECLARATION FOR HURRICANE DEBU DEBBY, HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS ONE OF THOSE COUNTIES LISTED IN THAT FEDERAL DISASTER DECLARATION. SECTION 28 GOES ON CONTINUE TO ADDRESS EACH MUNICIPALITY IN EACH OF THOSE COUNTIES. CITY OF TAMPA IS A MUNICIPALITY WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. AND SECTION 28 DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE CITY OF TAMPA. WHAT THIS ACT DOES IS PROHIBIT THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM PROPOSING OR ADOPTING MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME AMENDMENTS TO ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND PROHIBITS US FROM PROPOSING, ADOPTING A MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME PROCEDURES OF THE REVIEW, APPROVAL OR ISSUANCE OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT PER M. MIT AND DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND FROM OCTOBER 2024 AND CARRIES THROUGH OCTOBER 31, 2027. OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD OF WHICH THESE PROHIBITION ACE PLY AUTOMAKERS. CHALLENGE THAT THE TERM OR PHRASE "MORE RESTRICTIVE" OR "BURDENSOME" IS NOT DEFINED IN LEGISLATION. RESPIRATORY LITTLE GUIDANCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF WHAT THAT PHRASE MEMBERS. SO SO EACH COUNTY, EACH MUNICIPALITY, I HAVE WHO IS AFFECTED BE THIS SECTION IS RELYING ON THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION AND OWN DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT PHRASE MEANS. SO WE ARE FLYING A LITTLE BLIND HERE. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO EXPERIMENT IT IN THE WAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND THOSE WORDS. AND SO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND TRIED TO IDENTIFY -- WELL, LET ME BACK UP. THERE ARE SOME EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT THAT PHRASE MEANS. SO THERE IS LOBBYING CURRENTLY GOING ON FOR CORRECTIVE LEGISLATION THAT WE ARE HOPING WILL PROVIDE SOME GUIDE ANNALS. ALSO SOME -- GUIDANCE. AND ALSO SOME INTERPRETATIONS THAT ARE FOR THEKOM WG -- FORTHCOMING AND WITH THIS ACT. WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE ACT THAT BE IT STAND TODAY. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF OF THINGS YOU IDENTIFIED THAT YOU ADOPTED AUGUST OF 2024 OR PENDING AND PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. THIS A FEW MINUTES, DANA WILL COME UP -- DANA CROSBY COLLIER WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SHE WILL, IN THIS ORDER, I BELIEVE DPRR THR-- WILL GO THRO THE YBOR CITY PARKING REGULATIONS THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED IN EARLY 2024. THE JULY 2024 CYCLE OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PENDING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. YOU HAD A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS ON THEM. THEY HAVE BEEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEY WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION. THE NEXT AREA THAT DANA WILL DISCUSS IS THE JULY 2025 CYCLE OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS. SO WITH THAT, SKI WILL ASK DANAO COME UP AND I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS ON SENATE BILL 180 -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I -- I THINK I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO COMBINE THESE ITEMS. >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: GOOD AFTERNOON, DANA CROSBY COLLIER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WILL BE JOINED ON THE JULY 247 AND '25 CYCLES. I WILL JOINED BY ERIC COTTON. BUT FIRST WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE YBOR PARKING ORDINANCE THAT MILLS JOHNSON-VELEZ JUST MENTIONED. SHOW YOU THE TIME LINE AND HOPEFULLY I GET THIS RIGHT. AND EVAN IS LIKE, OKAY, GREAT. AUGUST 1, 2024 SENATE BILL 180 RETROACTIVE EFFECTIVE DATE. AS YOU RECALL, YBOR PARKING WAS REMOVED FROM THE JANUARY 2024 CYCLE AND WENT ON HITS OWN. ALL OF OUR JANUARY 2024 AMENDMENTS WERE ADOPTED PRIOR TO AUGUST 1 WHICH WAS THE GOOD NEWS. ON SEPTEMBER 5, YOU ADOPTED THE CHANGES TO THE YBOR PARKING ORDINANCE. CHANGES HAD AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 15. AND. THIS MAY OF THIS YEAR, SENATE BILL 1880 PASSED BOTH CHAMBERS. LATER SIGNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. ONE THE GOVERNOR SIGNED SENATE BILL 180, THE CITY CEASED THE YBOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THATMENT ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 5. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A -- WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER COMPLAINT FROM AN ATTORNEY IN THE CITY ASKING US TO CEASE ENFORCING OUR YBOR PARKING ORDINANCE. WE RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO GIVE OF IT ANOTHER LOOK. SO WE HAVE PREPARED ANOTHER DRAFT CODE OF ORDER FOR YOU TO AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT PARKING HOSPITALS ARE STAFFED; HOWEVER, WE REMOVED THAT THEY MUST HAVE A SECURITY GUARD. WE REMOVED REQUIREMENT FOR PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOT OPERATORS TO SUBMIT AN ANNUAL OPERATION AND SECURITY PLAN. AND WE ARE REVERTING TO C.A.s ON APPROVAL BEING DONE BY THE BLC ADMINISTRATOR. IN THE NEW ORDINANCE, WILL GO TO THE BLC BOARD. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE THEY WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. ALSO WE HAVE REF VE-- REVERTED E LANDSCAPING DEVELOPMENT FOR THE STANDARDS PREVIOUSLY EXISTED BEFORE AUGUST 1 OF LAST YEAR. JUST AS YOU UNDERSTAND AND GOING FORWARD WITH THE JULY CYCLE APPLICATION THERE ARE ORDINANCE WILL STILL NEED YOUR BLESSING AND NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR EVALUATION AND COME BACK TO YOU FOR TWO READINGS, AS NORMAL. AS YOU UNDERSTAND NO NUMBER SEVEN WILL BE OUR USUAL FIVE-MINUTE REPORT ON MONITORING PARKING COMPLIANCE. AS I MENTIONED WE HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCING THAT SINCE JULY 1. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANKS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCING THIS SINCE JULY. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: SINCE ACT WENT INTO EFFECT AND WE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS -- NOT REALLY COMPLAINTS BUT DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMUNITY ON IMPACT OF SNAPT B -- SENATE BILL 180 ON THE NEW REQUIREMENTS. COMMUNITIES AND ATTORNEYS WE HEARD FROM THAT THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE BURDENSOME AND RESTRICTIVE. >>LYNN HURTAK: SURPRISED THAT NOBODY REACHED OUT TO ME OF THIS PARTICULAR ONE. BECAUSE WE HAD A MEETING THAT JUST TALKED ABOUT ALL THIS, BUT I WAS NOT AWARE OF FACT THAT WE STOPPED DOING THIS IN JULY. I DO NOT SUPPORT PULLING THIS B BACK. I THINK IF WE WANT TO SIMPLY PUT IT ON HOLD WAY WE HAVE DONE THE OTHERS, BUT WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS. AND IAND I AM VERY CONCERNED THT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE POLICE BACK IN THE SAME PLACE BEFORE THERE WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO TO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOR THOSE COMMENTS, BUT BUT WHAT EXCEPTION 28 OF THE ACT DOES IS MAKE ANY -- ANY PROPOSED OR ADOPTED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE AND BURDENSOME VOID FROM THE OUTSET. VOID FROM THE OUTSET AS IT IF NEVER EXISTED. UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED BECAUSE OF A RETROACTIVE DATE FROM THIS SENATE BILLION. WE CAN'T JUST TABLE IT. WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME REMEDIAL ACTION. NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TABLE AND ANY ATEMTEMPT TO MAINTAIN IT WOULD BE VOID BY LANGUAGE OF THE LEGISLATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE CONSEQUENCES IT BEING VOIDED WITHOUT TAKING ACTION? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I THINK THOSE SECTIONS OF -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAID WE ALREADY WERE NOT ENFORCING IT. WHAT IF WE JUST HAD STATUS QUO? JOHNSO . >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: STATUS QUO WOULD BE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE BUT NOT ENFORCING IT. DANLZ DAN-- >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN. IT WAS VOID FROM THE MOMENT IT WAS ENACTED. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU OR ANY OF US IN THE STATEMENT FLORIDA. ACTUALLY EVERY COUNTY AND EVERY CITY IS IMPACTED WITH THIS WHY THERE IS SUCH A ZEALOUS EFFORT TO GET IT CORRECTED AND TIGHTENED. WHAT IT MEMBERANS THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE SOMETHING BECAUSE IT IS NOW VOID. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS FINE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY TAKE LEGISLATIVE ACTION AND GO WITH THE STATUS QUO OF NONENFORCEMENT. DANL DANLZ. >>DANNY COLLINS: WHEN PEOPLE COME TO OUR CITY AND THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OPERATE IN A CERTAIN SECOND DEGREE. THE CITY. THEY GO TO THE CODE THAT IS CODIFIED ON MUNI CODE AND LOOK AT OUR CODE REGULATIONS. EVERYTHING LIKE THIS THAT HAPPENS THE CLEANEST THING TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BOOKS AT THIS TIME AND BRING IT BACK IF THE LEGISLATION WAS OVERTURN BY A COURT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A LOT OF LAWS AND CODES ON THE BOOKS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW TO THE TEE ALREADY BECAUSE WE THAT IS THE WAY WE DOE IT. WOULD NOT SUPPORT TAKING IT BACK. WOULD SUPPORT HAVING IT THERE. IF WE HAVEN'T BUDGET FOLLOWING THIS, THEN I THINK WE JUST LEAVE IT. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE -- THERE HAS BEEN LEGAL ACTION THAT HAS TAKEN ON THIS. DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY WAYS ANYTHING WE SHOULD DO SHOULD PULL STUFF BACK WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL LEGAL ACTION HAS BEEN -- I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS GONE THROUGH THE SETTLE. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE SAID -- THE CYCLE. IF YOU ALREADY SAID WE ARE NOT ENFORCING IT. THEN WE ARE NOT ENFORCING IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: TODAY YOU ALL MAY HAVE A LIST OF THESE THINGS -- TODAY YOU MIGHT HAVE A LIST THESE ITEMS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU ALL SENT US A MEMO INFORMING US ABOUT IT. AND IF PULL ALL SENT SOMETHING TO THE MEDIA AND OR THE COMMUNITY TO LEAPT THEM KNOW. WE HAVE RECOMMENDTIVES OF YBOR TODAY THAT WORKED HARD TO GO GET THIS PASSED. WE ON CITY COUNCIL THAT WORKED WITH THEM DID NOT KNOW UNTIL NOW THAT IT WAS NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED. I T COMMUNICATE GAP THERE. IF YOUR EXPERIMENTAL LAW THAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE IT AS IF IT DOESN'T EXIST. WE CAN MAKE A MOTION IF WE NEED TO. BUT WE NEED A PARKING PLACE FOR IT. MAYBE NOT IN MUNI CODE. BUT -- THE OTHER THING IS A SIMPLE CURE TO CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE BEYOND THE THREE YEARS? DANL . >>DANNY COLLINS: THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND I DID BAITED. ANOTHER SECTION 18 THAT WILL WILL IMPOSE THESE REQUIREMENTS FORWARD IF THERE IS ANOTHER STORM IN OUR AREA. SO WE DID DISCUSS THAT AS AND OPTION TO PUSH OUT THE EFFECTIVE DATE UNTIL OCTOBER 2027. BUT BECAUSE OF THE 118 PROVISION, THEIR WASN'T SUCH A GOOD IDEA. AS FAR AS GOING TO MODIFY THE LAN LANGUAGE. WE ARE TRYING TO SALVAGE -- IF WE DON'T HAVE LANGUAGE, WE:NO LONG TAKE IT TO THE BLC COMMISSION COMMISSION BECAUSES THAT WOULD BE MORE BURDENSOME. NO LAWS IN OUR BOOKS TO DEAL WITH THE DALE LEGAL DUTIES TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. >> BACK TO THE COMMUNICATION THING. WE SHOULD KNOW BUT PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW ALL OF THESE LIKE THE FEDERAL MANDATES PREEMPTING THIS AND A LOT LOT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WORKING HARD AND WE NEED TO FILED UNIFORM WAY TO SEND OUT COMMUNICATION FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON ALL OF THAT CLENDENIN COUNCILMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, I -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. OUR APPROACH WITH THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION WHICH, AGAIN, COUNCIL DID ADOPT AND IS NOW PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AFTER EFFECTIVE DATE OF SENATE BILL 180 IS TO TRY TO SAVE WHAT WE CAN THAT IS NOT MORE RESTRICTIVE OR MORE BURDENSOME, AND NOT JUST REPEAL ENTIRE SECTION WHOLESALE. WHAT WE TRIED TO DO TO TASCALPE AND SAVABLE WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON JUST ALLUDED TO THE FACT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK, TIME AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THIS PARTICULAR CODE SECTION AND MOVING IT IT FORWARD. DID WANT TO BRING ONE OTHER SECTION -- AUTOMAKERS O-- ONE OTHER PORTION OF THIS LEGISLATION. AND WE ALREADY AS DANA ALLUDED TO RECEIVED A LETTER FROM AN ATTORNEY IN TAMPA ASSERTING THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS MORE RESTRICTIVE AUTOMAKERS AND MORE BURDEN SOME AND VIOLATES SNAPT BILL 180. THAT IS A PRERECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER OF SOMEBODY FILING A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY AND NOTIFYING US WHICH THIS ATTORNEY HAS ALREADY DONE OF THE IMPACT AND THEIR BELIEF THIS IS MORE BURDENSOME AND MORE RESTRICTIVE. ONCE THAT NOTIFICATION IS GIVEN, WE HAVE 14 DAYS TO WITHDRAW OR REVOKE THE ACTION AT ISSUE, THE LEGISLATION AT ISSUE OR DECLARE IT VOID. IF WE FAIL TO DO THAT, AT LAWSUIT COULD BE BROUGHT AGAINST THE CITY AND THE PLAINTIFF IN THE LAWSUIT IF SUCCESSFUL COULD BE AWARDED ATTORNEY S. FEES. WANT TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE IMPOSING WITH REGARDS TO THIS SECTION OF THE CODE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. WHEN DID THEY GIVE US THAT LETTER? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: AUGUST 7. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS WAY MORE THAN 14 DAYS AGO. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: OUR RESPONSE WAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT AT THIS WORKSHOP, THE IMPACTS OF SENATE BILL 180 AND THERE IS NO WAY HUMANLY POSSIBLE THAT ANY CITY CAN -- BECAUSE WE HAVE TOE HAVE TWO HEARINGS ON ANYTHING. ANY CITY CAN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE CURRENT CODE IN 14 DAYS. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TOE GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY RESPONDED TO THE AUTHOR OF THE INITIAL LETTER ON AUGUST 14 JUST ADVISING WE WERE GOING SOMETHING TO DISCUSS THIS TODAY. AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE HADD WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO REPEAL OR AMEND THE ORDINANCE WITHIN THE 14-DAY PERIOD. BUT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT IS AND ASK FOR FURTHER DRINKY DIRECTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY OTHER QUESTION IS, THERE IS SOMETHING SIMPLY THAT THE POLICE ASKED USES TO DO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS NOT REALLY -- IT HAS CODE THINGS ABOUT FENCES AND WHAT NOT, BUT THIS IS RULE TO LEGAL A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE ARE FACING. PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF STILLS AND COUNTIES ARE FACING. ISSUES THAT ARE NOT RELATED AT ALL INVOLVING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT GIANTS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSHAIR. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS BEING SUED IN OTHER COUNTIES. COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS WITH RURAL BOUNDARIES AND NOTHING TO DOING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 20 LAWSUITS BY 2067 CITIES AND COUNTIES COUNTY TO CHALLENGE THE LAW WITH CLARITY. AUTOMAKERS ORANGE COUNTY IS BEING SUED AND MANATEE COUNTY CURRENTLY FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS AMOUNTS AMPLE AUGUST 1. THEY ARE VIGOROUS LEASE DEFENDING THAT. LEAGUE CITIES AUTOMAKERS AND ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ARE PUSHING TO HAVE THIS LANGUAGE CLARIFIED AND ABUBBLE DAMAGESLY CLEAR THIS ONLY RESPONDS TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND NO INTENT DENTAL -- >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE PART THOSE LEGAL CHALLENGES? DANLZ DANA WE-- >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: WE ARE NORTH A PART OF THE LEGAL CHALLENGES. WE ARE WORKING WITH LEAGUE OF CITY COMMITTEE AND THE LANGUAGE WILL BE SKUBSED AND I WILL BE BE THERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT -- I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS BEING RESCINDED. I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE -- WE WON'T -- BUT IT JUST -- IF THIS WAS AN ACTUAL LAND DEVELOPMENT ISSUE, I COULD SEE. BUT THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE SIMPLY CANNOT PULL BACK ON PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT POLICE HAVE ASKED US TO WORK ON FOR YEARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND. GO AHEAD. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. THIS IS HOUSED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND PARTICIPANT OF WHAT IS THIS SENATE SENATE BILL DIRECTLY ADDRESSES, ANY AMENDMENT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT CAN'T BE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND MORE BURDENSOME. >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYWHERE ELSE WE CAN PUT IT IN OUR LAWS AS SOON AS. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS. I THINKING THAT IS BEYOND THE PURVIEW OF OUR DISCUSSION THIS MORNING. WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE THINK THAT AS IT EXISTS TODAY IS -- NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED IN ORDER FOR COMPLY WITH THIS SENATE BILL OR RESTRICTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND OBVIOUSLY NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON THIS ANYWADE. GOING ON WHAT COUNCIL MEWOMAN HURTAK SAID. A SNAPT BILL THAT REFLECTS WITH THIS BILL THAT IS PUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT EVERYTHING RETROACTIVE THAT IS A NULL AND VOID. THAT IS LAWSUIT WE HAVE TODAY. WE HAVE A LAW IN INK ONLY AND NOT IN ACTION. WHAT IS THE JEOPARDY OF CITY OF STAYING STAT US IT QUO BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT PREEMPTED US. THE LAW IS ON THE BOOK AND HAS OPINION REEFRNLTED. D AND PREEMPTED. WE LEAVE IT ALONE UNTIL IT EXPIRES. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE LAW TO IMPOSE A LAW THAT YOU IS MORE RESTRICTIVE AND VOID FROM THE START AS IF IT WERE NEVER ADOPTED. THERE IS ALSO LAWYER THAT IS WRITTENED TO, SENATE BILL 180 ALLOW AS PRIVATE PARTY TO CHALLENGE THAT. AND REQUEST THAT WE RERESCIND IT, UNDO IT, OR DECLARE IT VOID. IF WE FAIL TO DO THAT, THEY CAN BRING A LAWSUIT. AND WE COULD BE SUBJECT TO PAYMENT ATTORNEY FEE IT IS THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THIS COUNCIL WAS TO MAKE -- PASS AS MOTION BASE CLOSE DECLARING THAT THIS IS SB 180 BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE AND NO ENFORCEMENT ACTION, BUT WE LEAVE THIS IN PLACE. CAN WE DOE THAT? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YOU HAVE NOTHING. AT THAT POINT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE THE CONSE CONSEQUENCES. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: 27-178 WE ADDED A FOOTNOTE NOT ENFORCED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THE WILD, WILD WEAPONS IN PARKING. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THEN NO REGULATION LATION OF PARKING CLENDENIN THAT PROBLEM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT NULL AND VOIDS THE END TIRE ORDINANCE. IF WE REPLACEMENT, A WILD, WILD WEST DANLZ DANA GO TO A SECTION OF CODE AND YOU ONLY IT UP AND IT SAYS "RESERVED. "COMBHAGS 27-178 WILL BE. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO BACK. . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM TERRIBLE OF READING MEETS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEN THE CODE WOULD BE SILENT. ASKING YOU TO YOU CONSIDER RESTORING PRIOR TO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOME REGULATIONS. I DIDN'T GET IT WHEN WE STARTED BUT I GET IT NOW. >>LYNN HURTAK: CHAIR? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT I WOULD REQUEST IS IN THE MEAN TIME, I WOULD LIKE STAFF -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT A DATE TO THEM THEM COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PORTION SOMEWHERE ELSE IN OUR LAWS. BECAUSE THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE. THAT IS WHAT THE POLICE HAVE ASKED US FOR HELP WITH. THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF PEOPLE ON PRIVATE PARKING LOTS IN YBOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE IS MAKING NOTES AS WE SPEAK. I AM HEARING WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND STAFF WILL HAVE TO BRING IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR ACTION. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES, SIR. WHAT WE WOULD DO BRING BACK THE REQUEST TO TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, I HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION A LITTLE WHILE BACK WITH SENATE BILL 180, AND STAFF AGREED WE COULD WAIVE THE BRIEFING PORTION AND GO STRAIGHT TONIGHT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING SINCE THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SENATE BILL 180 ISSUE AND CUT THE TIME DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE IT BACK TO YOU MORE QUICKLY FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND READING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE TO THIS WILL BE RETAINED AND WHEN IT EXPIRES AND WHEN WE GET CLARIFICATION FROM TALLAHASSEE. MAYBE WE WILL GET CLARIFICATION PRIOR TO ALL OF THAT. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GO AHEAD. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING SOMETHING TO SAY. I DON'T THINK WE SHORTEN IT, WE GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS. YOU GO THROUGHOUT NORMAL PROCESS IDEALLY BY THE TIME THE PROCESS IS DONE, WE MAY HAVE ANSWERS BECAUSE LEGISLATIVE SESSION SOMETHING? IT IS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. IT IS EARLIER. NO I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE SHORTCUT ANYTHING. WE GO BY THE NORMAL PROCEDURES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: A THIS POINT IN TIME. NOTHING ON THE BOOKS WE CAN FOR 27-178. WE DISCUSSED IF A COURT CHALLENGE IS BY THE COUNTIES AND CITIES WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND A WAY TO CORRECT THE LANGUAGE, WE CAN PRODUCT THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. PULL IT RIGHT OFF CONSIDERATION AND GO BACK TO THE -- TO THE CODE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT -- THAT WE HAD ON JULY 31. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE CODE EXISTS. THE WORDS ARE IN OUR CODE AND NOT ENFORCEABLE. YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF REPLACING THIS ORDINANCE WITH SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE. IF BY CHANCE SB 180 FURTHER CLARIFIES THAT AOUR CODE, STAT US IT QUO. YOU PULL THE PROCESS AND THE BLACK AND WHITE REMAINS. AND WE START ENFORCING IT. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. NOW WE FOREPSEE IT. YEAH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER:ER TROIK INTRODUCE JULY 2024 CYCLE IN THE WORKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND CONTAINED SOME ELEMENTS THAT I WANT TO BRING IT TO YOU. HE WILL TAKE UP EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY SO YOU CAN CONSIDER IT AND HE WILL BE RIGHT HERE TO ASSIST. >>ERIC COTTON: IF I CAN GET THE PRESENTATION PLEASE. OR I CAN JUST START WITH JUST PAPER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV. >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. JULY 2024 CYCLE, WHICH, AS YOU JUST HEARD DISCUSSION ON SENATE BILL 180, THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO MOVE FORWARD IN SETTLEMENT, OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, BUT HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON -- IS THAT THE WRONG ONE? THIS IS THE 2025. I NEED THE 2024. HAS THE WRONG DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV, WE NEED A DIFFERENT SLIDE. >>ERIC COTTON: I WILL START WITH MY PAPER JUST TO GET STARTED. LET ME JUST START THIS WAY, AND WE CAN SWITCH IT WHEN IT COMES TIME. SO THIS IS THE -- AS COUNCIL NOTES, NONE OF THIS INFORMATION IS NEW. Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS MORE THAN ONCE GOING THROUGH THIS CYCLE TWO CYCLES PER YEAR -- THERE WE GO. WE ARE ON THE CURRENT CYCLE IS THE JULY 2024 CYCLE. WE WILL BE INTRODUCING THE JULY 2025 CYCLE MOMENTARILY. TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE INITIATED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR BY CITY COUNCIL. THESE ARE THE COUNCIL INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS. I WILL GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE. RECOMMENDATION FOR TO YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU JUST HEARD. DANA AND SUSAN DISCUSSED IT. AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL FEELS YOU SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD BACK -- SORB JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THESE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY. HAD THEIR FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY. NOW WHAT WE DID TELL COUNCIL -- WHAT WE TOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION DUE TO SENATE BILL 180, WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE WORKSHOP DATE TO DISCUSS THESE AND GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH ONES WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD FOR FIRST READING SOME TIME IN -- I GUESS IT WILL BE OCTOBER. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS A PETITION FOR REVIEW REQUEST. THIS WALLS 27-616. THIS ONE COUNCIL MADE THE MOTION TO REMOVE -- BASICALLY REMOVE THE HEARING OFFICER. ALL PETITIONS FOR REVIEW WILL YOU GO STRAIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. WE SKIP OVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION. LAST WEEK YOU HEARD -- YOU HAD THAT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DISCUSSION WHEN THEY ARE NOT THERE OR IF THEY COULD BE HEARD AT ALL WHEN THEY GOT TO COUNCIL. IN ADDITION TO THIS, REQUIRE COUNCIL -- OR PROBABLY THE COUNCIL'S ATTORNEY TO PREPARE A WRITTEN ORDER FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT WITHIN 30 DAY OF THE FINDING TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. THE PLANNING COMMISSION. COUNCIL, YES. THE ORIGINAL ONE -- YES, COUNCIL APPROVED -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE UNDERSTAND. >>ABBYE FEELEY: TODAY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THEM ON ONLY FOR ADOPTION NEXT MONTH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN LIGHT OF SB 180. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT. >>ERIC COTTON: IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE US DIRECTION ONE AT A TIME. THIS IS THE WHOLE SLIDE FOR THIS ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY QUESTION IS, IS IT LEGAL'S OPINION THAT ANY OF THESE FALL WITHIN THE BURDENSOME CATEGORY? OR JUST ADMINISTRATIVE IN CLARIFICATIONS. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: DANA CROSBY COLLIER. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THEM VERY, VERY CRITICALLY AND SOME APPEAR -- APPEAR TO BE MORE BURDENSOME UPON THE PUBLIC. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO BACK ONE SLIDE TO GET THE -- >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: MANY ARE DEBATABLE WHETHER THEY WOULD BE OR NOT. WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO -- WHEN WE DO COME BACK WITH YOU WITH AN ORDINANCE, WE WILL COME BACK WITH SEPARATE ORDINANCES IN CASE ONE IS THROWN OUT IN COURT. WE WON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER. WE WILL HAVE THE FULL CYCLE. THIS ORDINANCE 27-61 WOULD COME FORWARD AS A STAND-ALONE ORDINANCE. WE HAVE DEBATE ON BOTH SIDES THIS IS MORE BURDENSOME AND THAT IT IS NOT MORE BURDENSOME. A SUBJECT OF DEBATE IN FACT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. AND I WOULD PREPARE IT SEPARATELY JUST TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN -- ONCE IT IS DONE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO UNDO IT VERY EASILY BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE MORE BURDENSOME TO NOW HAVE PEOPLE GO TO THE HEARING OFFICER. WHY NOW IT IS AN OPTION. THEY GO TO THE HEARING OFFICER. THEY GO TO YOU. SOME CASES THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE HEARING OFFICER AND REMOVE THAT OPTION AND REINSTATEMENT IT, IT WOULD DEEM TO BE MORE BURDENSOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOW. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: I KNOW. IT HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTING SINCE HE LAST SIGNED THE LAW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. IS THERE A WAY TO LEAVE IT AS AN OPTIONING TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN WE CAN CLARIFY IT AFTER SB 180 MAKES THEIR CLARIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD BE STATUS QUO. >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT NOW IT HAS TO GO TO A HEARING OFFICER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH LANGUAGE WEB JUST PASSED. CURRENT PROCEED POURS ITS THATS TO. OR DOOR THEY HAVE THE OPTION. >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AS YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, A FORMAL DECISION HAS TO GO TO THE HEARING OFFICER FIRST THE CODE WAS ORIGINAL NATED IN 2009 AND 2010. OTHER APPEALS OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARDS AND BLC. THEY HAVE THE OPTION IN THE CODE TO GO TO A HEARING OFFICER AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS TO GET IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AFTER THE HEARING OFFICER MAKES THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS GORE STRAIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEEMS LIKE THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, NOT THAT MUCH JEOPARDY OF REMAINING STATUS QUO. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I AM CORRECT, THESE FOUR ARE THE ONES WE JUST PUT ON THE ON THE SMELHELF FOR ? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES, ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL ASK US NOT TO PROCEED WITH AT A TIME. WE WILL KEEP IT. IT IS ON A FOLDER. AND PREPARED LANGUAGE. AND WE ARE READY TO ROLL. WE WILL COME BACK TO WHENEVER IT IS CLEARED FROM TALLAHASSEE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL CAN REACH A CONSENSUS ON THIS. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I CAN ASK CCTV TO MOVE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING. >> NO, MA'AM, NOT ALL. BUT NUMBER ONE. >> THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. I CAN'T SEE THE BO THE TOMORROW ONE. OH, THERE R TWO-LINE CLARIFICATION. WE SAID THAT ONE IS OKAY. IF YOU CAN JUST GO THROUGH. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH POSTPONING THEM OR PUTTING THEM ON A SHELF IF YOU WANT US TO. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF YOU TELL US WHICH ONES TO PUT ON THE SHELF. I THINK WE ARE AT THIS POINT OKAY WITH THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN GO AHEAD. WHICH ONES DO YOU BELIEVE CONFLICT WITH SB 180. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: AS WE REVIEWED THIS CYCLE, A COUPLE THAT WE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT. SECOND ONE IS 2-150. CITY COUNCIL AMENDMENT THAT WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO WAIVE THE RESUBMITTAL WITHIN ONE YEAR. IF SOMETHING CHANGES, ITS PLAN, THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, WHATNOT. WE HEARD IT THAT THAT COULD BE PER SIDE AS MORE BURDENSOME SINCE PEOPLE CANNOT COME BACK FOR A FULL YEAR FROM THE DATE OF DENIAL. CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN, YOU WERE SPEARHEAD OF THE DRIVEWAY AND GARAGE SIZE. YOU HEARD IT TOO. WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT SOME OF THOSE PROVISIONS ARE MORE BURDENSOME, FOR EXAMPLE, EXTENDING DRIVEWAY OF THE ADU -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IRONICALLY MORE LIBERAL BECAUSE GIVES PEOPLE MORE LANGUAGE. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: WORKED WITH THE LANGUAGE, ERIC AND I, IN THE CODE TO BE AN OPTION. AND ALWAYS BURDENSOME FOR ALLEY ACCESS AS WELL. SO UP TO YOU ALL HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT ONE. NUMBER FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, ONE YOU COULDN'T SEE FOR THE CC, BUILD TO LINE CLARIFICATION IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. AND WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS CLARIFYING AND SOMETHING THAT WE -- THAT WE FOUND THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A NEED TO DO. SO WE HAVE NO QUALMS AT ALL ON THAT ONE. MOVING ON NOW. ERIC WILL TALK OF OUR STAFF AND INITIATED AMENDMENTS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE STOP THERE. ON THE GARAGE SIZE THING. ON THE PREMISE OF THIS CODE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES. WE PASSED AND ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD TO BASICALLY WHAT THIS NEW STANDARD WILL BE WHEN WE HAD A PD. I THINK THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LISTENING NOW WILL SAY SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE NOW PASSED WON'T BE PASSING BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE CONFORM WITH THE EXISTING CODE. IS THAT -- >>ERIC COTTON: WITH REGARD TO THE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT ACCOMMODATING TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE. WHAT THE CURRENT CODE IS. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE DO THE SINGLE CAR GARAGES. >>ERIC COTTON: UNDER THE CODE, YOU CAN DO A SINGLE CAR GARAGE. TWO PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. 18 FEET BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE DOOR. A SINGLE CAR GARAGE WITH A CAR PARKED INSIDE AND PARKED BEHIND CLEAN CLENDENIN I WAS BRIEFED IF IT IS TWO PARKING SPOTS, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE GARAGED. >>ERIC COTTON: DOING A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS IN THE CODE NOW. ADMINISTRATIVELY WE CAN WAIVE SOME OF THAT STUFF AND ASK CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE PD PROCESS. CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW, MAN. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR. OVERTURN IT AND COME BACK AND BUILD A TWO-CAR GARAGE. FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHAMPION OF SB 180, BLANK AROUND AND FIND OUT. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: WE LOOKED AT THE FIRST FOUR AS MENTIONED. 27-16. 27-150 TIME DECISION. 27-156. GARAGE LENGTH AND SIZE. SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THE ONE WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT THIS TIME. WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOSE FOUR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST THREE WE PUT THEM IN A PHOTO AND GET CLARIFICATION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE BUILD TO LINE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A MOTION ON THESE? OKAY. SO I HAVE GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO TO SET ASIDE ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE FOR THE TIME BEING. A AND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD AND AUDIOTAPED AS WELL. IF YOU CAN NAME SECTIONS YOU ARE REFERRING TO OR IF YOU WANT TO SLIDE TO IT ON A PAGE IN THE RECORD. >> SELECTION 27-616 REGARDING HE VIEW. 27-150, FINAL DECISION BY CITY COUNCIL. SECTION 27-156 AND NUMEROUS OTHERS, 27-283.10, 27-283.127 AND 290 WITH GARAGE LENGTH AND GARAGE SIZE. AND FOURTH ONE IS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STOP RIGHT THERE. ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT LANGUAGE WILL BE SAFE WITH US. WE ARE MOVING ON. >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE SET A DATE FOR AN UPDATE ON IT OR JUST RELY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT IS TO BE DETERMINED. >>BILL CARLSON: OTHERWISE SIT ON A FOLDER ON A DESK. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: BEFORE THE LAW IS UPDATED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO IT BE DETERMINED BECAUSE A LOT OF VARIABLES. >>DANNY COLLINS: A LOT OF VARIABLES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVED TO FORWARD THE BILL TO LINE CLARIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY, STATE THAT AGAIN? >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO FORWARD THE BILL TO LINE CLARIFICATION SECTION 27-43, 27-211 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE NEED THAT BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS BEEN FORWARDED? A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: MOVING ON. GOING TO THE STAFF INITIATED AMENDMENTS NOW. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THOSE. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE SHELF -- I GUESS WE SET A PRECEDENT AND LET'S GO I A HEAD AND GO THROUGH THEM. 27-60, AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE RICK WORKED ON EXTENSIVELY. IT WOULD HAVE MADE ALL THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THE SAME TO INCREASE NOTICE IT WOULD. AND IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE NOTICE PERIOD AND WITH SITE PLAN WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR DE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT WE TOOK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE BELIEVE THOSE WOULD -- WOULD BE MORE BURDENSOME AND TABLED FOR NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THESE ITEMS YOU ARE GOING TO PRESENT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING FOR TABLING? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT FIRST BLOCK. 2760, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO PUT THIS ON OLD AS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. SECTION 27-60, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION UNTIL THERE IS CLARIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE MEANT TO SET THE ENTIRE SECTION AS ASIDE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SORRY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST THAT ITEM. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: AMENDMENT TO 27-06. >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMEBODY SAID THE WHOLE SECTION ASIDE. HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS NOT THE CASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE 27-06 ALTERNATIVE DESIGN CLARIFICATION TO PUT ON HOLD UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION IS TO SEPTEMBER ASIDE THE AMENDED PORTION OF 27-60 OF DESIGN EXCEPTION. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: NEXT FIVE WE WILL RUN THROUGH QUICKLY. RECOMMEND YOU KEEP IT IN YOUR CYCLE. AND I WAS GOING TO PACKAGE. 27-71, ALLOWS US TO CODIFY SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR VRB APPLICATIONS. WE TOOK IT BE STRAIGHT FROM THE APPLICATION. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SENATE BILL 10-85 REQUIRES US TO BE CLEAR ON OUR APPLICATIONS WHAT WE WANT. SO WE STARTED ALREADY TO WORK TO CODIFY THE VRB REQUIREMENTS IN CODES SO IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. WHEN I CREATED THE ORDINANCE I WILL REFERENCE SECTION OF LAW IN THE FINDINGS THAT THIS IS NOT BURDEN OME OR UNREASONABLE. SECOND ONE CLEANUP, 17-11, APPROVAL FROM AN ARC ADMINISTRATOR. RIGHT NOW IN THE FOR SOME REASON HAS IT COMING TO YOU ALL. THIS IS A CLEANUP THAT YOU GOES TO THE ARC BOARD. MAKES MORE SENSE. THAT IS HOW WE DO IT WITH THE BLC. SPECIAL USE CRITERIA 27-132. WILL HELP GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO THE COMMUNITY AS THEY AUTO US THEIR EXTENDED RESIDENCES. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I AM AN OWNER AND I WANT TO LIVE IN THE SMALL HOUSE OUT BACK AND MY FAMILY IN THE FRONT. WE THINK DOING THAT. FLEXIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY THE PROPERTIES. THEY HAVE TO REPORT ONCE A YEAR IF THAT IS THEIR FAMILY LIVING ON-SITE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I HAVE A MOTION -- >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: I HAVE DO ROAR 27-833. LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. USE-TO-USE BUFFER CLEANUP. 15-FOOT BUFFER FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IF IT ABUTS COMMERCIAL. ERROR IN THE CODE. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SHOULD BEAR THE BUFFER. THAT A CLEANUP. 27-290.6, AIR CONDITIONING AND POOL EQUIPMENT, ADDING GENERATORS, AGAIN RATER STAND, THINGS LIKE THAT COMING INTO -- GENERATOR STAND COMING INTO THE CODE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I HAVE A MOTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>ERIC COTTON: THAT WAS THE FIRST SET. MOVING ALONG. NEXT ONE THAT IS ON HERE, ELIMINATION 27-1R56. EL -- 27-156. ELIMINATE NATION OF THE FOOTNOECHT. ALLOW THEM TO PROTECT THE GRAND TREE. SOME BUILDERS HAVE BEEN USING THAT EVEN IF THE TREE IS AT THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. THE 20 FEET IS ALREADY PROVIDED FOR THE PROTECTIVE RADIUS. THEY WILL STILL MAKE THE ARGUMENT BY UNDER THIS CODE, YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR FRONT YARD IF YOU ARE SAVING A TREE. THEY WILL STILL WANT TO MOVE THE HOUSE FORWARD WITH 20-FOOT SETBACK IN THE REAR AND MOVING THEIR HOUSE FORWARD PICKING UP SEVERAL HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FRONT. AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT AND NOT PART OF A SEPARATE DESIGN EXCEP EXCEPTION. PROVISION THROUGH THE CODE AND MAKE IT FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION OR VARIANCE. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD CONSIDER TO BE MORE BURDENSOME ON A BUILDER OR APPLICANT BY REMOVING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IN THE CODE FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS CRAZY THAT WAS AN INTERPRETATION. ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH THAT. >>ERIC COTTON: A CODE HAS A LANGUAGE PROTECTING A SPECIMEN OR GRAND TREE, YOU GET TO MOVE YOUR HOUSE FORWARD. IT DOESN'T SAY YOU ARE MOVING THE WHOLE HOUSE FORWARD. INTERPRETATION IS, YOU GET TO MOVE TO THE SIDE YARD AND PICK UP AN EXTRA FOOT ON THE SIDE OR PICK UP EXTRA FEET ON THE FRONT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO MADE THAT INTERPRETATION AND ARE THEY STILL WITH THE CITY? >>ERIC COTTON: THEY HAVE SINCE LEFT THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT ONE WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU HOLD OFF, 27-284. .5, PERMIT FOR A GRAND TREE REMOVAL. WE HAD ADDED LANGUAGE IN THE CYCLE THAT WILL AN ARBOR USE REPORT WILL BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. TALKED TO THE CITY ARBORIST AND TALKED OF FLEXIBILITY. WE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING ON WITH THE UPON REQUEST LANGUAGE AND IF SOMEONE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT COULD ADDRESS IT AT THE TIME OR SHELF THAT ONE AND ONE WE CAN FIND EITHER WAY ON. ON THE 156, FOOT NOTE 7 HOLD OFF ON IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE CONSEQUENCES OF SHELVING IT. >>ERIC COTTON: THE CODE WOULDN'T CHANGE. WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COULD HE HAD RIGHT NOW. FAST FORWARD TO THAT SECTION. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS ONE LOOKED AT SENATE BILL 1080 THAT REQUIRES US TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THE CODE FOR APPLICATIONS. WE WERE TRYING TO BALANCE SENATE BILL 180 AND NOT BE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND BURDENSOME AND WORKING AND TWEAKING WITH THIS ONE. THIS ONE HAS BEEN PRETTY PROBLEMATIC. >>ERIC COTTON: YOU SEE STRIKE THROUGH IN THE CODE NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS ITEM. A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER ITEM. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: 27-156 AS WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, THE TREE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO FORWARD THAT ITEM. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: OH, FORW FORWARD. SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS AT -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [ INAUDIBLE ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS JUST ON THAT ONE. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU, SIR. I AM SORRY. HE THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO HOLD ON THE PERMIT FOR GRAND TREE REMOVAL. I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: NOW -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK WANTED CLARIFICATION. CAN YOU READ THE CLARIFICATION. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: 27-284.2.5F 1B. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOT THAT? OKAY. WE WANT TO TABLE THE FOOTNOTE. NUMBER 7. FOOTNOTE 7. OR SET ASIDE FOOT NOTE 7. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THANK YOU. VERY, VERY BRIEF JULY CYCLE FOR 2025. A LOT OF IS IT FLORIDA STATUTE CONFORMING. KHAT BASED ON YOUR MOTIONS TODAY, THE JULY 2024 SHOULD BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER FOR FIRST READING. AND IF I CAN GET -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE SPECIFICALLY WHICH POWERPOINT PRESENTATION YOU WANT FOR CCTV. >>ERIC COTTON: THE JULY 2025 CYCLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JULY 2025 CYCLE. THAT WILL BE FOR ITEM NUMBER -- WILL THAT BE EIGHT OR NINE, I AM SORRY NINE? IS IT NINE? >>ERIC COTTON: SAME -- SAME PROCESS. COUNCIL INITIATED OR STAFF INITIATED. TWO CYCLES A YEAR. WE ARE ON THE JULY 2025 CYCLE. SO THIS IS A TENTATIVE PROCESSING TIME FRAME. TODAY IS SETTLEMENT. WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTS US TO MOVE FORWARD WILL HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. COME FEBRUARY, WE WILL BE BACK TO COUNCIL TO TRANSMIT THE LANGUAGE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP SOME TIME MIDSUMMER. SO THIS WAS LANGUAGE. THIS WAS COUNCIL INITIATED LANGUAGE FOR 27273.6. OFF-SITE PARKING FOR LENGTH OF THE LEASE. CODE IS EYE LENT HOW LONG THE LEASE IS. BY PRACTICE, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ASKING FOR TEN YEARS. AROSE OFF OF A BLC CASE AND OTHER ONE BACK HERE WILL BE THE MO OF MOVEMENT OF THE CDB BOUNDARIES AND THE CHANGES TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. AGAIN, THERE IS SPECIFIED. FIRST ONE SPECIFYING THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE. AND NOTEFYING THE CITY IF A LEASE IS CANCELLED OR -- IF THE LEASE IS CANCELLED IN THE CITY, LETTING STAFF KNOW. FOR THESE -- AND I WILL LET DANA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE THESE -- THESE ARE JUST CONCEPT WALL IN NATURE. THERE ARE PROBABLY NO VIOLATION OF -- SENATE BILL 180, BUT NOT REALLY, BECAUSE CONCEPTUAL AND HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME THESE GET THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, THEY WILL HOPEFULLY BE RESOLVED BY THE STATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WON'T BE LAW UNTIL IT IS RESOLVED. >>ERIC COTTON: FINGERS ARE CROSSED. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: HOLD 27-286 FOR NOW AS WE ARE OTHERS IN THE JULY 2024 CYCLE AND BRING IT BACK. WE BELIEVE WE HEARD SOME DEBATE THIS WILL BE MORE BURDENSOME SINCE SPECIFYING THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE. WE AGREE 100% IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP AND DON'T BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME. LIKE ERIC SAID, A LONG FUTURE AHEAD TESTIFIED AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADD IT BACK IN. JUST FOR RIGHT NOW -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SET IT ASIDE. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: IT WILL BE IN OUR FOLDER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I GET A MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE FOR 27-286. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR THE AMENDED PART. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: WE WILL SET IT ASIDE FOR NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT MOTION SOMETHING IN LEGAL, ARE WE GOOD -- GO FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION? >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YOU ARE GOOD TO GO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >>ERIC COTTON: SO THE NEXT ONE WAS THE TEXT AMENDMENT WHICH IS CHANGING VALUES OF THE CDB FROM THE CHANNEL -- FROM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT SLIDING IT OVER TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND EVERYTHING FROM MERIDIAN TO CHANNELSIDE PART OF THE CDB. STAFF -- I BELIEVE MISS FEELEY HAS SPOKEN WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON. WHAT WE ARE RECOMMEND SOMETHING ACTUALLY CHANGE -- RECOMMENDING IS ACTUALLY CHANGING THE TABLE TO MAKE THE HEIGHT EQUIVALENT OF THE AVIATION AUTHORITY IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN OR THE CDB. ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IN THERE. THERE WAS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO INCREASE THE F.A.R. FOR BONUS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO 10.5. THAT WAS REJECTED BY THE STATE. IF MY UNDERSTANDING DIRECTLY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FROM THE STATE SAID NO. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, COUNCIL -- ABBYE FEELEY -- >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONE FOR DEBATE TONIGHT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. COUPLE OF THINGS. HERE TALKING OF THE CONCEPT. OUR CONCEPT MEETING. ARE YOU ON BOARD? ARE YOU NOT ON BOARD? WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS. AS WE SET THIS UP TO BRING TO YOU TODAY, EVEN IN CONCEPT, THAT PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT. AND MR. TO THENBERG IS HERE BEHIND TOWNS SPEAK ON THIS. THAT WAS TENTATIVELY COMING BEFORE YOU. IT CAME BEFORE YOU AND WENT TO STATEMENT. THE STATE DID FIND THAT INCREASING GEMDENSITY AND INTENY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE AND THEY RECOMMEND NOT ADOPTING IT. PARTICIPANT OF THIS AMENDMENT DEPENDS ON THE ACTION YOU TAKE TONIGHT WENT THAT AMENDMENT COMES BACK BEFORE YOU AND YOU TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION ON IT. WHAT WHICH DID IN THIS CONCEPT, UPDATED THE HIEPTS TO BE FAA-H CAA. AND OUR THOUGHT -- AND ERIC HAS A HARD COPY. NO -- ON THE LINE -- ON THE LINE -- IF I CAN SWITCH THE WOLF A MINUTE. ON THE LINE BELOW THAT FOR THE F.A.R. AS WE DISCUSSED A FEW MONTH AGO WAS TO -- WHERE IT SAYS THREE AND A HALF, IF THE TEN AND A HALF PASSED YOU WOULD HAVE 3.5 AND A SLASH THAT BE SAID 10.5. THE 10.5 WOULD HAVE A FOOTNOTE THAT SPOKE WITH THE AMENDMENT. HERE IN CONCEPT AND TAKE ACTION LATER THIS EVENING, WE CAN WORK ON THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE THE ACTION GOES. PARTS ONE TO I BELIEVE CREASE HEIGHT AS WAS DESIRED AND NUMBER TWO, ADJUST THE FAR BASE ON THE ACTION OF COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT THE TABLE AMENDMENT IS THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER PUT IT -- I READ THE APPLICANT THAT THE APPLICANT FOR TONIGHT PUT IN. I WOULD RATHER PUT AT THE MAXIMUM GDENSITY AND THEN ARGUIG IT OUT WITH THE STATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAD THIS WILL BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THAT DISCUSSION. >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD AUTOMATICALLY COME IN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ADOPTED TONIGHT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: DEPENDING ON THE ACTION TAKEN TONIGHT. IF IT IS APPROVED, WE WILL GO AHEAD TO MAKE THE MODIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF IT IS NOT ADOPTED TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE TABLE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT. >>BILL CARLSON: THE EASTERN BORDER IS CHANNELSIDE DRIVE? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. TO ECHO WHAT WE ARE RICK SAID, MOVING THE CDB LINE AND WE SAID WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THE UPDATE BECAUSE PRIORITIZATION OF THE STREET TYPOLOGIES AND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO ALLOW IT TO GO THROUGH THE DDR PROCESS WHICH WERE THE OTHER TWO ITEMS TIED TO >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR SEVERAL YEARS. FINALLY YOU PUT TOGETHER SOME SOLUTIONS. I KNOW WORKING WITH STAFF. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE -- WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK WE HAVE A FEW MORE. >>ERIC COTTON: FOUR MORE AGAIN, CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE AGREED THAT IS A -- KIND OF UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT WAS THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE TABLE. THAT'S JUST CAPTURING WHAT THEY ALREADY RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL. THEY ALREADY RECEIVED THAT GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL. THAT'S PUTTING IT IN THAT TABLE. IS THAT CORRECT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT. SO WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING THINGS TOGETHER TODAY, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HERE ON THE CONCEPTUAL OF THE JULY 25 CYCLE. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THIS DISCUSSION. WE NORMALLY JUST GET A YEA OR A NAY FROM, YEP, WE WANT TO SEE THAT FLESHED OUT FURTHER, THE LANGUAGE DEVELOPED. AND THEN IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION. THEN WE BRING YOU BACK THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE WHEN WE COME BACK LIKE WE DID TODAY ALREADY ON JULY 24 CYCLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, CONCEPTUALLY, CHANGING THAT TABLE, NOW IT WILL STILL BE THERE FOR THE FAA-HCAA HEIGHT LIMITATION. TONIGHT WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT F.A.R., DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, BUT IT WON'T NEGATE THIS TABLE INFORMATION. >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. CONTINUE. >>ERIC COTTON: NEXT, A COUPLE OF STAFF-INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS. ARTICLE 2, DIVISION 8 IS THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE STATE HAS CHANGED THE SUBDIVISION LANGUAGE OVER 2024 AND -- 2023 -- 2024-2025 LEGISLATIVE CYCLES. THIS IS JUST A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE 27-160 IS A SPECIAL STREET SETBACKS. THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE CODE FOR PROBABLY 60 YEARS. WE HAVE TALKED WITH MOBILITY. THEY DON'T SEE A NEED FOR IT ANYMORE. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE RESERVATION OF RIGHTS-OF-WAY ON DIFFERENT CORRIDORS. THE ABILITY -- MOBILITY HAS INDICATED, THE EXPANSION OF ROADS IS NOT THE GOAL OF MOBILITY ANYMORE. THE GOAL OF MOBILITY IS TO HAVE MICROMOBILITY DIFFERENT MOBILITY ASPECTS, NOT JUST MAKING ROADS BIGGER AND WIDER. SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO REMOVE THAT SECTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, THIS I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT. >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S FINE. I WOULD ADD TO THAT. ABBYE FEELEY. I WOULD ADD TO THAT, WE HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THIS IN A LOT OF PLACES. SPECIFICALLY THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS WHERE IT SAYS, BRING THE BUILDINGS UP TO THE STREET, BUT THEN THE SPECIAL STREET SETBACK SAYS LEAVE THE BUILDINGS BACK HERE. SO THE WAY WE'RE PROCEDURALLY HANDLING IT RIGHT NOW, IT IS IN CONFLICT, AND WE ARE AWARE OF THAT. THAT'S WHY THIS HAS COME FORWARD. LIKE ON KENNEDY, IF YOU PUT THE BUILDING IN THE BUILD-TO ZONE AT FIVE FEET, BUT THE SPECIAL STREET BACK SAYS IT HAS TO BE AT 25 FEET FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSION AT KENNEDY, THEY ARE THEN GETTING A HOLD HARMLESS AND A -- FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT BASICALLY THE CITY HAS TO COME ALONG THEN AND TAKE YOUR BUILDING BECAUSE WE'RE USING THE STREET SETBACK OR THEY PUT A WAIVER IN TO YOU. THERE ARE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE CODE. WE DID HAVE TWO MEETINGS WITH MOBILITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. I THINK I HAVE TWO PROJECTS I KNOW OF RIGHT NOW. ONE ON CASS STREET THAT'S GOING, WHAT ARE WE DOING? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO INVEST ALL THIS MONEY TO PUT THE BUILDING THERE, BUT THEN HAVE TO SIGN A WAIVER TO THE CITY TO SAY, OH, WELL, IF YOU NEED TO COME AND TAKE OUR BUILDING, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT A WRONG. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE WHOLESALE APPLICATION KIND OF. >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. THAT'S WHY WHEN THE IDEA WOULD BE LET'S JUST -- WE'RE NOT USING THEM ANYMORE, AND WE DID CHECK THIS WITH BRANDON AND ADAM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO ANOTHER INFORMATION SESSION ON IT IN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT WOULD COME. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO CLEAN THIS UP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH STREET BY STREET ALMOST. >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY. >>ERIC COTTON: NEXT IS THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OUR CODE. IT'S IN 27-282.12 PAREN L. STATE PREEMPTED US FROM REGULATING EVs. THIS WOULD BE REMOVING IT FROM OUR CODE. AT THIS POINT, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT, YOU WOULD SAY, NO, DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, WE'LL START GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE NORMALLY DO ON A TYPICAL CYCLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEAK UP IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU OBJECT TO. >>ERIC COTTON: THIS IS SOMETHING NEW IN THE STATE. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY START ADDING CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCES. SO WE HAVE TO ADD IT TO THE DEFINITION. THE TABLE AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME NEW LANGUAGE IN 27-282, WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, CERTIFY RECOVERY RESIDENCES AS DEFINED UP THERE. HOLDS VALID CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE. MANAGED BY A CERTIFIED RECOVERY ADMINISTRATOR. THERE ARE FOUR LEVELS IN THE STATUTE. WE'LL WORK ON THIS ONE AND THIS HAS -- STATE IS REQUIRING THIS TO BE IN EVERYBODY'S CODE. THAT'S THE END OF IT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS CONCEPTUAL. ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? BEING THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION, WE ARE OPEN TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S SEE WHO SIGNED UP. IT'S MORE COMPLICATED. LET'S JUST THROW -- IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, LINE UP ON THE WALL LIKE THE OLD DAYS AND WE'LL GO ONE AT A TIME. AND THEN WE HAVE LIVE LOCAL. >> KEN SALTEN BETTERING. 1208 EAST KENNEDY DRIVE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. HERE TO SPEAK ON EARTH 8 OR 9. IT HAS TO DO WITH INCREASING THE HEIGHT AND DENSITY OF BUILDINGS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. THE RESPONSE WE GOT BACK FROM TALLAHASSEE, THE OUTFIT CALLED FLORIDA COMMERCE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. AND THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BLEED -- I'LL BE BACK TODAY. YOU MAY BE SICK OF ME. I'LL BE BACK FOR THE NIGHT MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OTHER THING. BASICALLY, FLORIDA COMMERCE SAID IF YOU ALLOW MORE DENSITY IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ZONE, IT'S GOT TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THE PEOPLE TO EVACUATE OUT OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ZONE IF THERE IS A HURRICANE. TRUETT GARDNER, MY ATTORNEY, HAS RESPONDED TO THAT. HE'S GOING TO GO OVER THAT RESPONSE TONIGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO REDO THAT HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT FLORIDA COMMERCE DID THEIR HOMEWORK HERE. IF THEY LOOKED, YOU COULDN'T GET A BETTER PLACE TO EVACUATE PEOPLE FROM THAN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT BECAUSE OF 275, I-75, THE NEW CONNECTOR AND GOING OUT TO 75. THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, WE'VE GOT A STATE OF 23 MILLION PLUS PEOPLE. WE HAVE THREE MAIN ROADS OUT OF IT. 75 95 301. WE KIND OF KNOW WHERE THE HURRICANES ARE GOING TO GO, BUT IF YOU HAVE 24 HOURS, 36 HOURS OR 12 HOURS, IT'S REALLY TOUGH. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PRIORITIZE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO EVACUATE. THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 2000 ADOPTED A NEW BUILDING CODE. I PUT IT RIGHT UP THERE, ALMOST A DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND MAGNA CARTA. WE NEVER BUILT BUILDINGS TO WITHSTAND HURRICANES IN FLORIDA. EVERYBODY HAD TO RUN AWAY. THE PAST 25 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING BUILDINGS TO WITHSTAND HURRICANES. THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO EVACUATE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO STAY PUT, BUT WHEN WE GIVE EVACUATION ORDERS, WE LOOK AT WHAT ZONE IT'S IN. WHAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS HOW STOUT IS THE STRUCTURE YOU ARE STAYING IN AND WHAT TYPE OF THINGS DOES THE STRUCTURE HAVE, BACKUP GENERATORS, FIRE PUMPS? OTHER PLACES YOU CAN STAY IN THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING I LIVE IN, THE WALLS ARE SIX INCHES OF CONCRETE, REINFORCED WITH REBAR. MY WINDOWS ARE DOUBLE PANE, UP TO 125 MILES PER HOUR AND SMALL MISSILE IMPACT RESISTANT. SHOOT A TWO FOUR AT IT AND IT TURNS INTO SPLINTERS. MY BUILDING ALSO HAS STAIRWELLS THAT ARE EIGHT INCH BLOCK. THEY ARE VERY SAFE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BOMB SHELTER. ELEVATOR LOBBIES ARE SHEAR WALLS. FOOT THICK. TONS OF REBAR IN THEM. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HURT THE BUILDING IS THE AIR FORCE. ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS ARE LIKE THAT. FLORIDA COMMERCE TAKES NONE OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT. WE REALLY NEED TO BE THINKING OF THE THINGS -- GOVERNMENT DOES RIGHT STUFF. THE 2000 BUILDING CODE WAS VERY MUCH THE RIGHT STUFF. WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THE BUILDINGS FOR 25 YEARS. WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. WE DON'T NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY TO RUN AWAY LIKE A MONTY PYTHON SKIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUPPLIES FOR ALL OF US TO EVACUATE TO YOUR PLACE? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE KNOW WHERE THE HURRICANE PARTY WILL BE. >> ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T SEE ANYONE. ALL WE CAN SEE IS A GIANT BUBBLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CTTV, NOT THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE ANDY SCAGLIONE, BUT IF YOU COULD FOCUS ON THE PODIUM. THERE WE GO. >> ITEM 8, 9. KEN. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING HE SAID. BUT VERY, VERY, ACTUALLY AGGRAVATING THAT I'M EVEN HERE BEFORE THE STATE DEFINITELY DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK ON THIS. THE MAIN FOCUS, POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON HURRICANE EVACUATION. WE GOT THE BEST HURRICANE ROUTES COMING OUT OF CHANNELSIDE WITH WHAT KEN JUST SAID. LEROY. I-4 75. THEY DEFINITELY DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK HERE. WE HAVE THE CRA THAT WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS BE PUT IN THIS AREA. IT MAKES NO SENSE WHY THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN. HECK, D.O.T. EVEN WROTE SAYING THAT IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE IMPORTANT STATE TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES. THIS IS FROM D.O.T. THIS MAKES NO SENSE. I ASKED YOU ALL TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO FIGHT THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTALLY -- THE STATE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING REGARDING TAMPA, FLORIDA. OKAY. ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ANDY. >> REGARDING THE F.A.R., 3.5 IS ANTIQUATED. WE NEED TO GET THAT UP TO THE TEN. >> STEVE MICHELINI. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PROHIBITS US FROM APPLYING BIGGER STANDARDS LIKE THE DRIVEWAY, THE GARAGES AND ALL THAT. SO WHEN WE COME FORWARD, IT'S NOT PROHIBITED. IT JUST WON'T BE REQUIRED. AM I CORRECT? THE SECOND THING IS, A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES WERE CITED UNDER SOME OF THESE CODES THAT YOU PUT ON HOLD AND THEY ARE REVISING. THEY WERE NOT ONLY CITED, BUT THEY WERE ALSO ASSESSED FINES THAT WERE PAID. AND QUESTION ABOUT HOW THAT WILL BE HANDLED. APPARENTLY WHEN THAT BILL WENT THROUGH, IT NULLIFIED THE CODES THAT WERE CITED AND USED AS JUSTIFICATION FOR COLLECTING THOSE FINES. SO I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THAT. YOU ALSO ASKED FOR -- I'LL HAND THIS OVER TO MARTY WHEN HE'S FINISHED. YOU ASKED FOR THE CONSEQUENCES. I'LL READ PORTIONS OF THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS OF THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO MANATEE COUNTY. IT SAYS, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH, THE CONSEQUENCES ARE INEVITABLE. THE CONSEQUENCES MAY INCLUDE LITIGATION, HEIGHT AND PUBLIC SCRUTINY AND BECOME THE EXAMPLE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT CAUSED A LAW TO BE CLARIFIED, AMENDED, AND ENACTED TO ENSURE ACTION THERE AS IT WAS NOT TO HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. BY WAY OF THIS LETTER, THE DEPARTMENT HAS COPIED THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES, AND AGENCIES FOR AWARENESS AS STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS' RESOURCES. PLEASE REST ASSURED THAT IF THE COUNTY CONTINUES DOWN THIS PATH, ALL DISCRETIONARY FUNDING DECISIONS BY THIS AGENCY AND OTHERS, INCLUDING ALL GRANT AWARDS AND REIMBURSEMENTS WILL BE SUBJECT TO A HEIGHTENED SCRUTINY AND POSSIBLE DELAYS GIVEN THE BOARD'S CLEAR ACTION AND INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE STATE LAW. I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE THIS TO MR. SHELBY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY HERE, RESIDENT OF HISTORIC YBOR CITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK IN THE SB 180 CONVERSATION BACKS YBOR AND TO KIND OF DOVETAIL ON MICHELINI'S SUBJECT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT LIKE A FEW PEOPLE ON CITY COUNCIL HAVE EXPRESSED THIS MORNING, WE ARE PRETTY CONFUSED THAT THIS IS THE FIRST THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT THE NEW CODE OF 27-178 WAS NO LONGER BEING ENFORCED. WE ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER TO THE CITY BACK IN JULY REQUESTING A RESPONSE AND KIND OF DELINEATING A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE HAD AS TO WHY THINGS WEREN'T BEING ENFORCED. WE NEVER GOT A RESPONSE. THIS IS THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING NOW KIND OF A VERY LATE REASON WHY. SO THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TAKE IN. I APOLOGIZE THAT MY BRAIN IS NOT VERY ORGANIZED AT THE MOMENT. I'M CURIOUS WHY WE DID NOT GO LINE BY LINE IN THE YBOR SPECIFIC CODE AMENDMENTS LIKE MR. COTTON AND ABBYE JUST DID ON THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS JUST BECAUSE I THINK NOT ALL OF THOSE CHANGES ARE RESTRICTIVE IN A WAY THAT WOULD GET US INTO TROUBLE WITH SB 180. IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD TAKE THOSE LINE BY LINE AND LOOK AND SEE, OKAY, CAN WE KEEP THIS INTACT, CAN WE MOVE THINGS AROUND US? FOR EXAMPLE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC BARRIO HEARING FOR NEW PARKING LOT REQUESTS TO ME IS NOT OVERLY RESTRICTIVE OR NOT MORE RESTRICTIVE. IT'S ACTUALLY A CLARIFICATION. WE BELIEVE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PREVIOUS CODE ABOUT HOW THAT SHOULD HAPPEN, WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADMINISTRATIVE OR BARRIO BOARD HEARING, SO I THINK THAT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION AS IT WERE. I DON'T REALLY SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT REALLY NEEDS PUBLIC INPUT IN ORDER TO MOVE THROUGH. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN SECOND, I WOULD REQUEST THAT HYNCA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY BE KEPT INFORMED ON HOW THIS IS MOVING AND BE A PART OF ANY CONVERSATION REGARDING YBOR GOING FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO SB 180 AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US. I WOULD ALSO LOVE SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION FROM CITY STAFF REGARDING HOW THEY WENT THROUGH THE NEWLY ADOPTED CODE FROM 2024 AND DECIDED THAT ALL OF IT HAD TO GO OUT BECAUSE OF SB 180, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. LASTLY, JUST A RENEWED ASK TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE CODE, EVEN AS IT WAS BEFORE THE CHANGES MADE LAST YEAR. AS A RESIDENT AND MY FELLOW RESIDENTS, WE DON'T SEE ANY CODE BEING ENFORCED. IT'S JUST CONFUSING. JUST A RENEWED ASK THERE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU KNOW FROM THIS COUNCIL YOU-ALL HAVE OUR SUPPORT AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK LED THE CHARGE ON THIS. WE STOOD BEHIND HER AND PUSHING FORWARD THIS. A LOT OF THE STUFF IS, BECAUSE OF SOMETIMES UNBURDENSOME LEGAL FEES IF YOU TRY TO CHALLENGE AND WAIT IT OUT. WEIGH OUT THOSE OPTIONS. I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU GUYS SHOOT TOWARDS TALLAHASSEE, THE STATE HOUSE, STATE SENATE AND THE GOVERNOR ON THIS ISSUE. HELP US HELP YOU. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. POYNOR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. STEPHANIE POYNOR. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND A COMMENT. ONE, I THOUGHT YOU COULDN'T MAKE MOTIONS DURING WORKSHOP. MAYBE I'M WRONG. WHY CAN'T WE THROW THESE RULES AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS? IS THERE A PUNISHMENT IF WE SUBMIT SOMETHING THAT GOES AGAINST IT? I DON'T KNOW. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT ANYBODY MADE UP TO INTENTIONALLY SCREW SOMEBODY. AND THEN MY STATEMENT IS TALLAHASSEE SUCKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I GET A SECOND? SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE? WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LAST ITEM. WE'RE GOING TO THE LIVE LOCAL ACT PLEASE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO PUT THE MATTER WITH REGARD TO MAKING MOTIONS. THERE IS NOTHING IN YOUR RULES THAT PREVENT THE MAKING OF THE MOTIONS. THE ONLY COMMENT THAT REFERS TO IS RULE 4D, SENTENCE, NO OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE MATTER WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP SHALL BE TAKEN DURING OR AFTER A WORKSHOP UNLESS THE PUBLIC IS AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT PRIOR TO ACTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAD A PROPERLY NOTICED MEETING AND WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH ITEM. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING. UNDER YOUR RULES, THERE ARE BODIES THAT DO NOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND DO NOT TAKE ACTION. THIS COUNCIL AT THE TIME THESE RULES WERE ADOPTED -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING, WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO. WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES BEFORE FINAL ACTION. WHEN COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IT, HISTORICALLY WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED, THE COMMUNITY STRONGLY VOICED AN OPINION THAT THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO REALLY HAVE AN INPUT ON THE ITEM IS NOT AT THE LAST MINUTE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE ADOPTION, BUT DURING THIS POINT AND COUNCIL AS A PUBLIC POLICY AND TRANSPARENCY AND WANTING TO GET PUBLIC INPUT MADE THE DECISION TO ADD THAT TO YOUR WORKSHOP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ERIC. >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. I KNOW YOU ARE A LITTLE BIT OVER YOUR TIME. I'LL BE VERY FAST. IF THEY COULD BRING UP THE LIVE LOCAL REAL QUICK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 6. >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR. LAST ONE ON THE AGENDA. JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE HISTORY OF LIVE LOCAL. THE STATE ADOPTED IT IN JULY OF 2023. IT WAS AMENDED IN 2024, AND THE AMENDMENT INCLUDED THE DISTANCE FROM MILITARY INSTALLATIONS LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. THEY AMENDED IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. I'LL GET TO THE LAST SLIDE IS THE AMENDMENT FOR THAT. AGAIN, JUST AS A QUICK SUMMARY, 40% OF A DEVELOPMENT MUST BE AFFORDABLE. IF IT'S A MIXED USE, MEANING MIXED USE OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL, 65% OF THE FLOOR AREA MUST BE RESIDENTIAL AND 40% OF THE 65% HAS TO BE AFFORDABLE. HEIGHT BASED ON RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE SPITE. PARKING CALCULATED AT .8. ONE OF THE CHANGES TO THE STATUTE NOW WAS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WE ALREADY OFFER A 20% REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING NUMBERS. AND THEN THE GREENSPACE REQUIREMENT, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR USE IS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ANYWAY, NEW LANGUAGE, THEY NOW INCLUDE PDs. IF YOU HAVE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR A NONRESIDENTIAL USE, SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND APPLY FOR LIVE LOCAL UNDER THE STATUTE NOW. WITHIN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THE REVIEW FOR THAT MUST BE ADMINISTRATIVE. FOR LIKE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, IF IT WAS IN THE YBOR CITY DISTRICT, THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE BLC ADMINISTRATOR, NOT THE ENTIRE BLC. LIKE I SAID, WE MUST CONSIDER REDUCTION IN PARKING WHICH THE CITY BUILT IN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN LIVE LOCAL FIRST CAME ABOUT. THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT OF OUR WEB PAGE. THIS IS A LIST OF ALL THE LIVE LOCALS AS OF THE DATE OF THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN IT WAS PUT TOGETHER, LIST ALL THE LIVE LOCALS WE PROCESSED TO DATE AND MAP SHOWING WHERE THEY ARE. THAT GETS UPDATED, WE BRING IN A NEW LIVE LOCAL, WE UPDATE THE MAP. IT GETS UPDATED TO THE WEB. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DENIED. WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF THE DENIALS? >>ERIC COTTON: 800 HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING. LEGAL FEELS OTHERWISE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED. 4202 SPRUCE WAS ACTUALLY ON A PD BEFORE THEY AMENDED THE STATUTE. THAT'S WHERE THE TWO DENIALS. THE OTHER ONES -- >> [INAUDIBLE] >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO ON THAT ONE. THOSE ARE THE TWO DENIALS. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED AS REQUESTED. TALKED TO A GENTLEMAN TODAY THAT HAS ONE APPROVED DOWN BY THE BASE. THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR MILITARY HOUSING. THEY WANT TO MODIFY TO FOCUS ON MILITARY FAMILIES SO INSTEAD OF DOING ONE AND T BEDROOMS. SO THAT -- THAT'S IT FOR THE SUMMARY OF LIVE LOCAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, WHAT STANDARDS ARE THEY USING AND WHAT BASIS COULD THEY DENY? >>ERIC COTTON: I'LL ASK DANA -- SHE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE. I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE ON THAT ONE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF IT'S OKAY, IF WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I ASKED SU SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ E SAME QUESTION. LEANED OVER, SO THERE'S NO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. RIGHT. SO CAN WE GET YOU THAT ANSWER AND GET BACK WITH YOU. I'M SORRY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THIS MORNING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. GAD. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: CHAIR? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU E-MAIL THAT TO ALL OF US? THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL. >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABSOLUTELY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? OF COURSE, THERE IS. >> I'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME FOR THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? I THINK I RECOGNIZE YOU, BUT I'M NOT SURE. >> I'VE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE. GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR. I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL EACH A COPY OF THIS. I'M GOING TO POINT OUT THAT THIS REZONING THAT HAS COME TO YOU RECENTLY -- LET ME READ THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE AWAY THE POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR LAND USE. THE DECISIONS GOING ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE. THIS LIVE LOCAL IS A STICK TO ABUSE OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THANKS TO TALLAHASSEE. REZ 25-59, A NEW REZONING THAT GOES BACK TO SET THE SETBACKS WHERE THE LDC CURRENTLY REQUIRES IT. THIS IS A SMALL DEVELOPER WHO PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO HAVE THE SETBACKS RETURNED TO WHERE THE CITY REQUIRES IT. BUT LET'S LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES. THEY GET TO DO SOMETHING CALLED SNO, WHICH I LIKE TO CALL SNOW JOB. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT DOES IT COST? WHAT HAPPENS? IT'S NOT IN THE CODE. WHY IS NO INFORMATION IN ACCELA FOR THE PUBLIC USE? THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. LET'S LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES. SNO, I ASKED MS. WELLS, WHERE DO I FIND THIS IN THE CODE? WHERE IS IT IN THE COMP PLAN. SHE SAID TALKED TO MR. COTTON. LAST TIME I SCHEKD, WASN'T AN ATTORNEY. I WENT THROUGH THE LAST 35 SNOs. ONLY ONE OF THEM HAS ANY DOCUMENTS IN THE FILE. NO DOCUMENTS. ZERO. OUT OF 35 THINGS. THEY DON'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. A LOT OF THEM SAY ZONING REVIEW. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I DON'T KNOW. YOU SHOULD ASK. BUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT SAYS ZONING REVIEW. NOW, I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SNO FOR THE LIVE LOCAL AT 7400 INTERBAY BOULEVARD. THERE WAS 151-FOOT SETBACK IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION. 151 FEET. GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ISSUED THIS MEMO. A QUALIFYING DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WITHIN A QUARTER OF A MILE OF MILITARY INSTALLATION REQUIRES THE APPLICATION REZONING SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL. DID YOU ALL EVER HEAR THAT? NOPE, NOPE, YOU DIDN'T. THERE IS THE CODE -- THIS IS THE MEMORANDUM FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT SAYS, IT'S WRITTEN, YOU CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT IT COMING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. HERE IS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. WHERE IT SAYS IT MAY NOT BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. BUT, WAIT, WE GOT THE SNOW JOB. WHAT IS THAT? AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, BUT, BY GOD, IT WAS DONE. NOW, THE SETBACK GOT CHANGED IN THAT CHANGE. I ONLY KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY HAD TO PULL PUBLIC RECORDS ON IT. IT'S STILL NOT IN THE RECORDS. 62 FEET LESS. THEY CHANGED THE SETBACKS BY 62 FEET. WHY WERE THEY NOT IN THIS COUNCIL? THEY MADE THOSE POOR GUYS COME AND APPLY TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE LAND USE CODE DICTATES AND YET THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS? HOW MUCH DOES AN SNO COST? I PUT MORE DOCUMENTS IN HERE. TAKE A MINUTE AND READ THEM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AT THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE THIS IS CRAP AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR. THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY. THERE ARE NO STAFF REPORTS. >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEW BUSINESS? DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH NEW BUSINESS FIRST WITH COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN CARLSON? VIERA? >> [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO? COUNCILMAN MIRANDA? >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO MENTION, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH DARLENE THAT SEPTEMBER 21 TO THE 27 IS HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES WEEK. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LATE GWEN HENDERSON THAT SHE ALWAYS MADE IT A POINT TO HAVE EVENTS FOR THAT. HERE IS DARLENE FOR THAT. JUST HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. I REMEMBER BEFORE SHE PASSED ON, SHE HAD A BIG EVENT FOR STUDENTS WHO WERE GOING TO HCBUs THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AND IT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT I SAW HER. SHE WAS A PROUD RATTLER AND FAMU GRADUATE. I JUST THOUGHT, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE FAMU, BETHUNE-COOKMAN IN FLORIDA ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS AND HOWARD SPELLING MORE HOUSE, AMONG MANY, MANY OTHERS. GOD SOMETHING WORTHY TO NOTE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NOT HAVING A DISTRICT 5 PERSON HERE, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT HISTORICALLY DISTRICT 5 PERSON I THINK WOULD BRING UP. GWEN OBVIOUSLY DID THAT A LOT. DARLENE IS HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ANY NEW BUSINESS? MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. PAGE 4 OF YOUR CALENDAR IS THE OCTOBER 23 AGENDA SET FORTH OF WHAT STAFF REPORTS ARE AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS. I'M ASKING FOR A QUALIFICATION -- A CLARIFICATION. IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULES A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, SLASH, SCOPE FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, ET CETERA. I'M WONDERING WHETHER THAT IS ACTUALLY CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF THE GOALS OR IS IT THAT DAY YOU ARE GOING TO SCHEDULE A DISCUSSION? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR SCHEDULING. I WOULD ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION SO IT REFLECTS WHAT COUNCIL'S INTENTION IS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE. SINCE THIS WAS MY MOTION, I WILL AMEND IT TO SAY CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSES OR HAS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL REGULAR SESSION AT 9 A.M. ON OCTOBER 23rd, THE THIRD FROM THE LAST ITEM WILL BE CHANGED FROM DISCUSSION -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: STRIKE THE WORD SCHEDULES -- >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, INSTEAD OF THE WORD SCHEDULES, CHANGE IT TO THE WORD HAS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE STRIKE SCHEDULES AND INSERT HAS. THANK YOU. MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? WE'LL SEE YOU ALL BACK HERE AT 5:01 P.M., 301 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD TAMPA FLORIDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIRD FLOOR.