>> I NOW DECLARE THE MRINL OPEN MEETING HAS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILMAN RICK GRADY. OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA, CONSIDERATION ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SEEING NONE, OUR NEXT ITEM IS FIRE TRAINING UPDATE. CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF. GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DO WITHLANO F. WHEN WE HAVE A 9-1-1 CALL COME IN, WE REALLY FOCUS ON THREE THINGS. THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE, BUT WE REMIND EACH PERSON THAT WE HIRE, AND THAT IS WE WANT TO GET THERE QUICK, WE WANT TO DO GOOD WORK, AND WE WANT TO SHOW COMPASSION. IN ORDER TO DO GOOD WORK, THERE'S A LOT OF PREPARATION AND TRAINING THAT GOES INTO THAT. OUR FORMER TRAINING OFFICER SAID, DON'T TRAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT RIGHT, BUT TRAIN UNTIL YOU CAN'T GET IT WRONG. THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY WE APPROACH THINGS WHENER WEE LOOKING AT TRAINING. IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE GOOD TRAINING, IT NEEDS TO BE REALISTIC TRAINING. IT NEEDS TO BE AS CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL EVENT AS YOU CAN GET. WE WANT PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE NERVOUS, BE NERVOUS. WE WANT THE ACTUAL REACTION YOU WOULD GET FROM THAT. IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STRUCTURES THAT MIMIC THE ONES THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THE CITY OF PLANO. IF A PICTURE IS WORTH 00 WORDS,HEN WE SHOULD GET A FEW BONUS WORDS FOR AN AERIAL SHOT OF THE TRAINING FACILITY. IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. LET'S DO A QUICK TOUR OF THE FACILITY. THE FIRST THING WE TALK ABOUT IS OUR TRAINING. IF YOU HAVE BEEN BY THERE AT ALL, YOU CAN'T MISS THAT. IT'S SIX STORIES. IT HAS A BASEMENT. EACH FLOOR HAS A DIFFERENT DESIGN. I'LL BACK UP ON THAT ONE FOR A MINUTE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE IS WE HAVE THE STAND PIPE AND SPRINKLER SYSTEM. WHEN YOU GO TO A HIGH-RISE FIRE, YOUR ABILITY TO FIGHT FIRE CHANGES. YOU CAN'T WALK TO THE ENGINE OFF OF IT. YOU CAN'T PULL A HOSE OFF THE ENGINE TO FIGHT IT. YOU HAVE TO USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE SET UP INSIDE MANY OF OUR HIGH-RISE BEINGS HERE IN TOWN, THEY HAVE RESCUE AIR SYSTEMS. THAT ALLOWS OUR FIREFIGHTERS WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE FIGHTING FIRE TO REPLENISH THEIR AIR. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK OUTSIDE. WE CAN STAY LONGER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARRY AS MANY BOTTLES INSIDE. IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM. WE'LL HAVE THAT IN OUR TRAINING TOWER. WE ALSO HAVE AN ELEVATOR, SO WE CAN PRACTICE ALVATOR RESCUES. SOME OF THE PROPS YOU'LL SEE IN THE HIGH-RISE TOWER, WE HAVE A KITCHEN FIRE, BEDROOM FIRE, A DOUBLE BED FIRE WITH THE FLASH OVER, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GOT A FLASH-OVER I THER 'S GNG TO BE A GREAT FACILITY FOR TRAINING. UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE VIDEOS. I HAD VIDEO OF EACH -- AN EXAMPLE OF THESE. THIS IS A FIRE THAT WE MADE EARLIER THIS SUMMER, AND THAT'S THE ROOF OF A HIGH-RISE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE. THAT'S YOUR SOLAR PANELS. THOSE ARE ON FIRE. THERE'S A SECOND-ALARM FIRE. WE HAD GROUPS THAT CAME IN UP THE STAIRS, USE THE STAND PIPE SYSTEM ON THE OUTSIDE AND THEN SET THE LADDERS ON THE OUTSIDE R SECONDARY ATTACK FROM THAT LOCATION. IT'S A PERFECT MATCH FOR WHAT WE HAVE BUILT THERE IN OUR TRAINING FACILITY. THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS A MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING. YOU CAN HAVE TWO SCENARIOS GOING ON, AND YOU CAN HAVE PART OF IT GOING ON AS IF THE BUILDING IS COLLAPSED AND PART OF IT IS AS IF IT'S STILL INTACT THERE. SOME OF THE PROPS THERE IN THAT ONE ARE DOUBLE BED, TWO STOVE FIRES, A BED CLOSE TO A WINW SO YOU'LL SEE FIRE ROLLING OUT OF THE WINDOW. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ALSO FROM THIS SUMMER, THIS PAST SUMMER, OF A FIRE THAT MATCHES EXACTLY THAT KIND OF MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING. WE MADE A GREAT STOP ON THAT ONE IN THE VIDEO. I STARTED TO SAY I WAS GOING TO ACT IT OUT FOR YOU SINCE THE VIDEO WASN'T WORKING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WILL PLAY OUT THAT WELL. IT WON'T BE NEARLY AS IMPRESSIVE AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE VIDEO, BUT THEY MADE A GREAT STOP ON THAT ONE. IT'S PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU NEED THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. THE THIRD TYPE IS A SINGL FAMILY DWELLING, AND IN IT YOU HAVE TWO STORIES, 2,500 SQUARE FEET, REAR ENTRY. LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE HOMES YOU'LL SEE HERE IN PLANO. HERE'S THE BACK SIDE OF IT. YOU SEE THE TWO-CAR GARAGE. SOME OF THE PROPS IN THIS ONE ARE REALLY PERFECT FOR WHAT WE DO IN OUR STRUCTURE FIRE. YOU HAVE A CAR FIRE IN THE GARAGE. YOU HAVE AN ATTIC FIRE WITH ROOF EXTENSION, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE AN UPSTAIRS BEDROOM FIRE. THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A HOME THAT WAS REAR ENTRY, TWO-STORY. ABOUT THAT SAME SIZE. YOU SEE OUR CREWS ON THE ROOF HERE WORKING. THEY'RE CUTTIN A HOLE TO PROVIDE VENTILATION THERE. AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAD CREWS WORKING FROM THE INSIDE TO PUT THE FIRE OUT THAT WAS IN THE ATTIC THERE. YOU HAVE STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE, HIGH ANGLE, HIGH SPACE. ALL THOSE ARE AVAILABLE THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COLLAPSES THAT YOU CAN PRACTICE FOR. WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS ALLOWS US TO GO IN AND SET IT UP TO WHERE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHORE THOSE UP TO WHERE IT'S SAFE TO WE CAN PRACTICE RESCUE. ALL THOSE HOLES ARE THERE SO THAT YOU CAN FILL THOSE WITH A CONCRETE SLAB SO WE CAN BREACH THOSE, PRACTICE JUST AS IF YOU WERE GOING IN TO FIND TRAPPED VICTIMS. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE FROM EARLIER THIS SUMMER OF A BUILDING WHERE WE HAD A RESIDENTIAL EXPLOSION THERE. PART OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, YOU SEE HALF THE STRUCTURE IS ONE THAT YOU COULD HAVE SEARCHED. THE OTHER HALF HAS A COLLAPSED AREA WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SHORING IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO A RESCUE IN THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES WE HAVE OUT AT THE FACILITIES AND WHY WE HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY MATCH THE CIDENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN. I JUST WANT TO COVER A FEW OF THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THAT I GET ON FACILITY, AND THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN IS IT GOING TO OPEN? WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL OF YOU BEING THERE. SWREEL A TIME FROM 8:00 TO 9:00 FOR THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS CITY MANAGEMENT TO COME OUT AND DO A TOUR. IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY. THEN WE'LL FROM 9:00 TO NOON FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF GD STUFF GO. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS OUR FIRST RECRUIT CLASS SHOULD START SOMETIME BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1st, NOVEMBER 15th, IN THAT AREA, AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST ONES TO GET TO USE THAT FACILITY. IMAGINE BEING YOUR FIRST DAY TO WORK IN THE CITY OF PLANO. THEN YOU COME TO WORK AND SEE THAT FACILITY. YOU THINK, THIS PLACE IS FIRST CLASS WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT THAT. THAT WILL BE GOOD. THE SECOND QUESTION I GET IS ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT THE TRAINING CENTER OPENING? ABSOLUTELY, WE ARE. IT'S A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY, AND SOMETIMES YOU INK, LL, THAT'S A TERM THAT PEOPLE USE ALL THE TIME. IT'S LESS OVER-INFLATED. IT'S NOT. THIS IS TRULY A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY. THE SECOND ONE THERE, CONTROLLING OUR OWN SCHEDULE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MEANS A LOT TO US. WE CAN TRAIN ALL NIGHT LONG IF WE WANT TO. DON'T TELL THE GUYS THAT I SAID THAT, BUT WE CAN TRAIN WHENEVER WE WANT TO. WEEKENDS, IF YOU HAVE A CREW THAT COMES UP WITH AN IDEA AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO TRY, AS LONG AS THE FACILITY IS NOT BEING USED BY SOMEBODY ELSE, THEY CAN GO BECAUSE IT'S OUR FACILITY. THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL. IT'S A GREAT RECRUITING TOOL. ALSO, IT DOES WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING, OUR THREE PRIORITIES. GET THERE QUICK, DO GOOD WORK, SHOW COMPASSION. IT HELPS US GET THERE QUICK IF WE HAVE A LARGE SCALE EMERGENCY IN TOWN. WE CAN JUST STOP THE TRAIN AND GO TO WORK BECAUSE WE'LL BE HERE IN TOWN. WE'RE NOT OUT OF TOWN, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND BACK. THE LAST ONE OF THOSE IS CAN WE HOLD A MEETING IN YOUR NEW CENTER? MOST OF THIS COMES FROM INTERNAL DEPARTMENT HEADS. THEY SEE IT, AND THEY WANT TO KNOW, CAN WE COME OUT THERE AND THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY YES, WE ARE EXCITED TO SHOW IT OF I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES AT THE END. THE NEXT PIECE IS CONCERNING OUR EMS. WE'LL NARROW THAT MORE DOWN SOME TO WHAT'S CALLED A STEMI CALL. YOU MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT IS. FOR MOST OF US WHAT WE WOULD CALL THAT IS A HEART ATTACK. WHAT THE STEMMING PART IS, THAT'S YOUR ST EVATI, MYO CARDIAL INFARCTION. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE EKG. I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE IN JUST A MINUTE. THAT'S WHAT THEY REFER TO THESE DAULZ CALLS. I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF A HEART ATTACK. DON'T WORRY. I DID NOT TAKE A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR PATIENTS. THAT'S NOT THEM ON THAT PICTURE. I DIDN'T VIOLATE ANYBODY'S HIPAA RIGHTS. I TOOK THAT OFF OF THE AMERICAN HE HEART'S WEBSITE THERE. IN THE PAST WHAT WE DID WAS YOU HAD A THREE-LEAD EKG THAT SHOWED ONE VIEW OF THE HEART. IF THE PATIENT HAD CHEST PAIN, YOU WERE MAKING YOUR DECISION ON HOW YOU WERE GOING TO TREAT THEM MORE ON JUST THE SYMPTOMS THAT THEY PRESENTED. WE WOULD GOELT THAT PATIENT THAT FELTED LIKE WE WERE HAVING A HEART ATTACK, PUT THEM IN THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCE, DRIVE FAST TO THE HOSPITAL, TREAT THEM WITH THE MEDICATION THAT WE COULD TREAT THEM WITH, BUT WHEN YOU GOT TO THE HOSPITAL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU TAKE THEM INTO THE E.R., AND THEY DO THE SAME STUFF ALL ORGAIN. ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU JUST DID, THEY WOULD DO IT THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST THE PROCESS. THEY WOULD DO TESTS AND WORK THEIR WAY TO WHERE THEY GOT THEIR PATIENT OVER TO THE CATH LAB. NOW WE HAVE A 12-LEAD ON THERE. THAT SHOWS 12 VIEWS OF THE HEART. INSTEAD OF US GUESSING ON WHETHER THEY'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF TIMES THAT STEMI THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU IN JUST A MINUTE, THAT'S AN INDICATOR THAT THEY SHOULD, AND SO WHAT HAPPENS NOW ON A CALL IS THEY'LL PUT THAT 12 LEAD ON THEM. THEY'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A STIMI THERE, AND THEY'LL SEND A PICTURE OF THAT TO THE HOSPITAL, AND OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS WE'VE WORKED OUT A SITUATION WHERE THE CARDIOLOGIST TRUSTS THAT PAIR 34EDIC AND THEY SAY WE HAVE A STEMI. THEY ACTIVE THE CATH LAB RIGHT THEN. WE LEAVE THERE QUICKLY. TREAT THE PATIENT. WHEN WE GET TO THE HOSPITAL, THE DIFFERENCE IS WE ROLL THEM THROUGH THE E.R. THEY MIGHT SAY WHAT'S THEIR NAME, CHECK THEM AS THEY GO BY OF COURSE ALBERTA WE MOVE THEM CAN FROM THE COT OVER TO THE TABLE IN THE CATH LAB, AND THEY DO THE INTERVENTION RIGHT THEN. IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE PATIENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE GOT AN OCCLUSION THERE, TIME IS HEART MUSCLE. IF YOU HAVE A PART OF YOUR HEART THERE'S IN BLOOD FLOW TO, THE TIME IS HEART MUSCLE IN THAT CASE. JUST AS KIND OF A LITTLE NOTE HERE IN THERE, THE MISSION LIFELINE, AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AWARD IS FOR DEPARTMENTS OR EMS SVICE THAT FIT THE -- THEIR CRITERIA, AND REALLY I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF IT. I'LL GO THROUGH JUST A COUPLE OF THEM. ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 12-LEAD WITHIN 10 MINUTES OF PATIENT CONTACT. ANOTHER ONE THAT'S 75% OF THE TIME, AND THEN 75% OF THE TIME YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT PAESHLT FROM THE TIME YOU MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT PATIENT UNTIL THE TIME THAT YOU GET THE PATIENT INTO THE CATH LAB, AND THEY DO THE INTERVENTION HAS TO BE LESS THAN 990 MINUTES. THE BEST AWARD YOU CAN GET ARES, IS THE GD PLUS AWARD. OUR DEPARTMENT MEETS THOSE CRITERIA. NOW LET'S GET TO THE PART THAT'S THE INTERESTING PART, AND THAT'S OUR PATIENTS. I HAVE TWO PATIENTS HERE TO LOOK AT. PATIENT ONE IS A 53-YEAR-OLD MALE. ACUTE ONSET OF DIZZINESS FOLLOWED BY CHEST PAIN AND SWEATING. OCCLUSION OF THE LEFT ANTERIOR DESCENDING ARTERY OR LAD ALSO KNOWN AS THE WIDOW MAKER. IF THAT SOUNDS BAD, IT'S BECAUSE IT IS. IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE AT THEIR EKG YOU CAN SEE THAT STIMI. YOU CAN SEE THE ST ELEVATION. IT'S DIFFERENT IN THOSE LEADS THAN IT IS THE OTHER ONE. THAT'S AN INDICATOR THAT THAT PATIENT IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK THERE. THIS WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THP PLANO, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF GIVING US FEEDBACK ON THERE. WHAT THIS TELLS US IS OUR FIRST CONTACT WE MADE WITH THAT PATIENT WAS AT 10:42. BY 10:45 WE HAD A 12 LEAD ON THAT PATIENT. BY 10:47 WE HAD A STIMI ALERT TO THE HOSPITAL. THEY ACTIVATED THE STIM I-TEAM, AND BY 10:50 WE DEPARTED THE SCENE. BY 11:04 WE HAD THAT PATIENT ON THE CATH LAB PREPARED FOR INTERVENTION. IN THIS PARTICULAR CALL IT WAS A 40-MINUTE TIME FROM THE TIME WE MADE PATIENT CONTACT UNTIL THE TIME THAT PATIENT RECEIVED INTERVENTION, AND AT THAT TIME THAT WAS THE RECORD FOR THE YEAR. WE SET THE RECORD FOR THP FOR THE YEAR. IT WAS A GREAT CALL. EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT. 48 HOURS LATER. THIS IS A PICTURE BEFORE AND AFTER ON THE CATH LAB. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE HARDER TO TELL THAN THE NEXT ONE I'LL SHOW YOU. WHERE THE ARROW IS, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S ALL -- THERE'S BLOOD FLOW THERE AFTER THE CATH LAB. YOU CAN SEE WHY IT AFFECTS THE HEART MUSCLE AS QUICKLY AS IT DOES. THERE WAS NO FLOW IN THAT AREA. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PATIENT. THE SECOND PATIENT WAS A 39-YEAR-OLD MALE. THIS IS 48OURS LATER AFTER THE FIRST PATIENT. 39-YEAR-OLD MALE. CHEST PAIN. NAUSEA AND SWEATING. 100% LEFT ANTERIOR DESCENDING ARTERY OCCLUSION. THAT'S THE WIDOW MAKER THAT WE THE SAME LEADS, YOU'LL SEE ST I- ELEVATION IN THOSE LEADS RIGHT THERE FOR THIS PATIENT. OUR TEAMS IDENTIFIED THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMES OVER HERE, THEY'RE PRETTY AMAZING BECAUSE THIS IS FIRST -- EMS FIRST MEDICAL CONTACT WAS AT 11:29. THE 12 LEAD WAS ALSO AT 11:29. I DON'T KNOW IFHEY WALKEDN THERE WITH THE LEADS ALREADY OUT AND READY TO GO. WHAT'S IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THIS PART, THOUGH, IS THIS IS A 39-YEAR-OLD. YOU DON'T GO IN THERE THNKING HEART ATTACK IMMEDIATELY ON A 39-YEAR-OLD, BUT THEY IDENTIFIED QUICKLY ENOUGH THROUGH THE HISTORY OR THROUGH THE SYMPTOMS WE NEEDED A 12 LEAD ON THIS PATIENT. BY 1 1:30 THEY HAD ALREADY SENT THE STIMI ALERT TO THE HOSPITAL. BY 11:32 THEY DEPARTED THE SCENE. THAT'S HOW QUICKLY THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THIS, NOTIFY THE HOSPITAL. BY 11:44, THIS PATIENT ARRIVED AT THE HOSPITAL AND RECEIVED THE INTERVENTION FROM THE HOSPITAL. 30 MINUTES. 40 MINUTES WAS THE RECORD. TWO DAYS LATER, 30 MINUTES. WHAT'S IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THIS PART TOO IS MOVED THAT PATIENT OVER ON TO THE TABLE, THE CATH LAB, PATIENT CODED RIGHT THERE. THEY HAD TO SHOCK HIM THERE. SHOCKED HIM. WERE ABLE TO CATHETERIZE THEM. THAT WAS A LIFE-SAVING INTERVENTION FOR THAT PATIENT. IT WASN'T A MINUTE TOO SOON, LITERALLY. YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE. THIS IS EVEN A LITTLE CLEARER ON THE BEFORE THE CATH LAB YOU SEE WHERE THE BLOCK WAS. THEN AFTER THE CATH LAB YOU CAN SEE HOW CLEAR IT WAS. THIS PATIENT CAME BY AND VISITED US AT THE FIRE STATION. THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU LOVE WHENEVER YOU GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEM THERE AT THE STATION LIKE THAT. FOR US IN THESE CASES WE'RE DEPENDING UPON GREAT TRAINING. DR. GAMBT PROVIDES OUR PEOPLE. THEY IDENTIFY QUICKLY AND WE DEFEND E DEPEND ON GOOD EQUIPMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE 12 LEAD EKG AND SEND THAT TO THE HOSPITAL, ALL THOSE THINGS. WE'RE ALSO DEPENDENT UPON OUR APPARATUS GETTING THERE QUICKLY. IN THESE CASES WE'RE DEPENDING ON BOTH THE ENGINE TO GET THERE QUICKLY AND THE AMBULANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE AMBULANCE THERE IF WE'RE GOING TO TRANSPORT THAT PATIENT IN A TIMELY MANNER. BOTH OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT IN THESE CASES. THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THEM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. >> THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? SHELBY? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. THIS IS PHENOMENAL. I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. REGARDING THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER, FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, WHAT IS A FLASH-OVER SNL >> THE FLASH-OVER? THE FLASH-OVER IS WHEN EVERYTHING IN INSIDE A ROOM REACHES IGNITION TEMPERATURE. YOU'LL SEE IT ALL LIGHT OFF AT ONE TIME. THERE'S A VIDEO ONLINE THAT YOU CAN WAUCHB OF A CHRISTMAS TREE ACTUALLY -- IT WILL SHOW IT LIGHTS OFF AND BEGINS TO HEAT EVERYTHING UP UNTIL EVERYTHING IN THAT ROOM, THE COUCH, THE CHAIR, EVERYTHING IN THAT ROOM LIGHTS OFF AT ONE TIME. EVERYTHING BECOMES FIRE AT THAT POINT, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FLASH-OVER SIMULATION IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE YOU. IT GETS YOU TO THINKING HOW TO ATTACK THAT, WHERE NOT TO BE. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THERE EVEN WITH OUR EQUIPMENT ON. YOU DNOT WANT TO BE INSIDE DURING A FLASH-OVER. THAT'S A GOOD TOOL FOR US TO PRACTICE WITH. >> THANK YOU. REGARDING THE STIMI PRESENTATION, IF I READ CORRECTLY IN THE FIRST CASE YOU PRESENTED ABOUT AN HOUR HAD ELAPSED BETWEEN THE FIRST ONSET OF SYMPTOMS AND THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY CALLED DISPATCH. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I READ THAT RIGHT? >> I WAS SHOWING THIS TO MY WIFE, AND MY WIFE SAID THE SAME THING. THAT'S A LONG TIME FOR THE PERSON TO WAIT. I THINK A LOT OF US ARE PROBABLY GUILTY OF PUTTING THINGS OFF WHENEVER WE START TO SEE THOSE SYMPTOMS. THAT'S DEFINITELY -- YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT TIME AFFECTS YOU SO YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT OFF IF YOU ARE HAVING ANY OF THOSE SYMPTOMS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY HISTORY, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT OFF. THAT WAS A GOOD CATCH. YOU NOTICE ON THE SECOND ONE -- >> ONE MINUTE. >> IT WAS, LIKE, THEY IMMEDIATELY CALLED. >> GOOD THING TOO BECAUSE HE CODED AS SOON AS HE GOT TO THE HOSPITAL. >> IT WAS, YES. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU BET. UNCIL MEMBER HOLMER. >> GREAT PRESENTATION. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING. DO ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES USE THE 12-LEAD EKG? >> THEY DO. I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF THEM HAVE THEM ON THEIR AMBULANCES. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THEM ON ALL THEIR APPARATUS LIKE OURS DO. ALL OF OUR ENGINES, TRUCKS, EVERYTHING WE HAVE HAS THE 12-LEAD ALREADY ON IT. THAT WAY IF THE ENGINE GETS THERE BEFORE THE AMBULANCE, THEY HAVE THEM HOOKED UP TO 12-LEAD AND SENT IT TO THE HOSPITAL. BY THE TIME THE AMBULANCE GETS THERE, THEY HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PATIENT. LET'S LOAD THEM AND GO. THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO HAVING THAT ALREADY ON. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THAT LIFE PACK 15, BUT THAT'S A BENEFIT OF IT. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA. I KNOW WE'RE PULLING ITEM B ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY OTHER ITEM. >> ALSO ITEM E I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEMS L AND M. >> OKAY. >> COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR FUTURE AGENDAS? OKAY. GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO THE REGULAR MEETING. I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER RICK GRADY IS ON ZOOM. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY REVEREND MICHAEL FORGE, PASTOR WITH PRINCE OF PEACE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY CUB SCOUT PACK 112 WITH GULLEDGE ELENTA. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE. >> LET US PRAY. LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AS A DIVERSE BODY OF CITIZENS, YET UNITED IN OUR COMMON GOAL FOR ACHIEVING THE GOOD OF OUR CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS BESTOWED UPON US THROUGH YOUR GRACE AND COOPERATION WITH THAT GRACE. MAKE YOUR PRESENCE KNOWN TO US THIS EVENING AS WE WORK TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS. WATCH OVER US AND GUI US IN ALL THINGS. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [TEXAS PLEDGE] >> MAYOR MUNS: BE SEATED. I NEED MORE BLUE. [LAUGHING] COME OVER HERE. LET'S TAKE A PICTURE. WHAT DO YOU SAY? [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR MUNS: WE HAVE OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION FOR THE PLANO CITY ORCHESTRA. THEY'RE CELEBRATING THEIR 40th ANNIVERSARY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MARION BROCKET, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, GREGORY PATTERSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND KYLE IGNACI, DEVELOPMENT MAGER. SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR THE 40th ANNIVERSARY SEASON OF THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA. WHEREAS, THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IS CELEBRATING ITS 40th SEASON THIS FALL AND IS THE LARGEST AND ONLY PROFESSIONAL ORCHESTRA IN COLIN COUNTY, IN 1982 THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA BECAME A REALITY. AT THAT TIME THE ORCHESTRA WAS LED BY MAESTRO HECTOR GUZMAN. HE DIRECTED A GROUP OF 34 DISTINGUISHED MUSICIANS AND THREE CLASSICAL CONCERTS THAT SEASON. THEIR INAUGURAL CONCERT WAS HELD AT WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL WHERE 150 PATRONS WERE IN ATTENDANCE. WHEREAS THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA HAS EARNED SEVERAL IMPRESSIVE AWARDS, INCLUDING THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA EDUCATION LEADERSHIP AWARD IN 2010 AND AGAIN IN 2016. THIS YEAR THE PSO HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR THE PRESTIGIOUS OBALISQUE AWARD AT ATMOS ENERGY AND LEADERSHIP CATEGORY. THIS IS THE AWARD GIVEN EVERY YEAR TO THE NORTH TEXAS BUSINESS COUNCIL FOR THE ARTS. WHEREAS THE ORCHESTRA IS COMMITTED TO SHARING THE LOVE OF MUSIC IN OUR COMMUNITY TO A VARIETY OF MUSIC, EDUCATION, SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS THAT HAVE TOUCHED THE LIVES OF MORE THAN 55,000 CHILDREN, YOUTH, AND SENIORS. WHEREAS TO CELEBRATE THIS MILESTONE 40th ANNIVERSARY THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IS HONORED TO PARTICIPATE IN A COLLABORATION EVENT WITH H.E.B., CENTRAL MARKET, PLANO BALLOON FESTIVAL TO STAGE A SPECIAL OUTDOOR COMMUNITY CONCERT THE OPENING NIGHT OF THE FESTIVAL. NOW I, THEREFORE, JOHN B.MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2022, AS PLANO STEM PHONE ORCHESTRA AND MAESTRO HECTOR GUZMAN DAY IN PLANO, AND I DO, THEREBY, ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADVANCING ART THROUGH THE MUSIC IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] >> YOU LOOK GREAT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. SEPTEMBER 2022 IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH. TAKE ACTION ON THE ISSUE OF O HUCKER. THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK WORKS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PROVIDE MEALS TO OUR NEIGHBORS STRUGGLING WITH HUNGER. WHEN MY PREDECESSOR MAYOR HARRY BEGAN THIS MANY YEARS AGO AS THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE, I THINK WE RAISED 3,500 POUNDS OF PEANUT BUTTER THAT YEAR. SINCE THEN, WE ARE NOW -- LAST YEAR SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO 400,000 POUNDS, AND WE HAVE UPPED O GOAL THI YEAR TO 500,000 POUNDS OF PEANUT BUTTER IN ALL OF COLLIN COUNTY. SO STARTING AUGUST 25th AND THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING ALL OF OUR PLANO COMMUNITY TO GIVE TO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE. SO THIS IS A BIG EFFORT ON ALL OUR PARTS, AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. WE ALSO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ IN REGARDS TO HUNGER ACTION MONTH, SEPTEMBER 2022. WHEREAS, HUNGER ACTION MONTH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2008 BY FEEDING AMERICA AND WORKS TO PROMOTE WAYS FOR INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE TO GET INVOLVED AND HELP FIGHT THE HUNGER CRISIS. WHEREAS, THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT RELENT IN ITS EFFORTS TO CARE FOR OUR OWN, AND WE CHALLENGE ALL OF COLLIN COUNTY TO GET INVOLVED. DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WE WILL COME TOGETHER TO HELP SOLVE THE HUNGER CRISIS IN NORTH TEXAS, BUT PARTNERIN WITH ALL OF NORTH TEXAS TO PROMOTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE ANNUAL PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE, THERE WILL BE BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON OPTIONS FOR PARTICIPATING. THE MORE WE COLLECT, THE MORE WE IMPACT. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN B.MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2022 AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN PLANO, AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME, THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL, AND WORKING TOGETHER TO ERADICATE HUNGER IN OUR CITY, COUNTY, STATE, AND NATION. LET'S ALL DO OUR PART AND LET'S RAISE WAY OVER 500,000 POUNDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APP [APPLAUSE] COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND -- MAY RESPOND -- >> ISSUE I'LL BRING IS NOT ONE UP FOR RESOLUTION TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE IT AS SOMETHING WE OPEN UP GOING FORWARD TO ADDRESS AS MANY CITIZENS THAT ARE AWARE OF STREET REPAIR QUALITY. I REPRESENT AN HOA OF 230 HOMES. I'M CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT. SERVED IN PAST POSITIONS THERE, AND WE HAVE OVER ONE-THIRD OF OUR BUDGET THAT GOES TO APPEARANCE AND MAINTAINING OUR ENTRANCES OFF OF SPRING CREEK. WITH HE PUT A LOT INTO THAT, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE WATER REHABILITATION RESTORATION THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR. ALMOST A YEAR NOW DUE TO A LOT OF VARIOUS UNFORESEEN, UNCONTROLLED ISSUES. THIS IS CAUSING OTHER PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF OTHER AREAS WE'VE BEEN IN. WE WATCHED STREET REPAIR. I'VE SENT SOME PICTURE THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE HOW THOSE THINGS HAVE GONE. CURRENT THINGS ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE DRILLING INTO FISSURES WHERE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST GOING TO FAIL AND BREAK. I KNOW THE BLACKTOPPING IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE MAJOR ROADS, B IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REAL GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP PREVENT THAT, I TOOK SOME PICTURE OF SOME OLDER AREAS THAT HAD A SIMILAR THING DONE, AND THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE THE ONGOING PROBLEMS. IT'S A NEVERENDING PROBLEM. IT'S IN CONSTANT DISREPAIR. THEY LAST ANYWHERE FROM A YEAR TO TWO, AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REDONE AGAIN. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PAST MAJOR PROJECTS WITH THE CITY ON THE TH MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON THE TO TRANSPORTATION CITY BACK IN THE 2000s. I'M HAPPY TO GET INVOLVED IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR THAT OR IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE FROM ME. YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION. JUST LET ME KNOW. >> WE'LL BE HAVING OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT REACH OUT TO YOU AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WATER REPLACEMENT PROJECT TAKES A BIT OF TIME TO GET THROUGH BEFORE WE START DOING SOME OF THOSE MAJOR REPAIRS, BUT I THINK WE CAN SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH YOU ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR GETTING ALL OF THOSE PAVEMENT REPAIRS COMPLETED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE YOUR CONTACT INRMATION. R PLIC WORKS DEPTMENT WILL BE RE SHARE MORE INFORMATION. I >> IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE TIMELINE. IT'S JUST THE QUALITY OF THE REPAIR THAT LEADS TO FUTURE FAILURES. >> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MUCH. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL FRA FRANCE. >> GOOD EVENING WHERE ARE MY NAME IS BILL FRANCE. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. WE ARE HERE ONCE AGAIN TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE UNLAWFUL OPERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN PLANO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AT THIS TIME I ASK ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS TO PLEASE STAND. FIRST, WE WANT TO THANK Y FOR LISTENING TO OUR PLEAS FOR HELP. YOU'RE TAKING ACTION AND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADDRESSING THIS GROWING PROBLEM. THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND RUN-AWAY GROWTH OF STRs IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAS REACHED A TIPPING POINT WITH A DOUBLING OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS EXPECTED IN OUR CITY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR. THERE ARE TWO PARTIES TO THIS ISSUE. THE FIRST ARE SPECULATORS AND INSTITUTIONAL BUYERS. THEY HAVE PURCHASED A BUILDING AS A PRODUCT AND A BUSINESS TRANSPORTATION SIMPLY FOR ECONOMIC GAIN. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CASH FLOW AND RATES OF RETURN. THEY DO NOT RESIDE IN THAT BUILDING. THEY MAY NOT EVEN RESIDE IN PLANO OR IN TEXAS OR EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES. THE SECOND PARTY ARE OUR RESIDENTS, YOUR NEIGHBORS. THEY LIVE IN PLANO IN THEIR DREAM HOME. THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO OUR SCHOOLS. THEY PURCHASED CARS AND TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SOCCER GAMES. THEY ATTEND OUR CHURCHES. SOME ARE ELECTED TO SERVE IN PUBLIC OFFICE AND ARE FACED WITH IMPORTANT DECISION THAT WILL FOREVER AFFECT THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS. OF YOU TO CONSIDER TWO ASK EAC- FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS. FIRST, WERE YOU ELECTED TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF OUT OF STATE COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OR, RATHER, TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE HOMES AND FAMILIES AND VALUES OF THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO? LASTLY, AND MOST IMPORTANT, WOULD YOU TOLERATE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT TO YOUR HOME OR YOUR PARENTS OR YOUR CHILDREN'S? IF THE ANSWER IS A RESOUNDING, NO, I WOULD NOT, THEN WE BELIEVE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING AND FOR REPRESENTING THE LAW-ABIDING RESIDENTS OF PLANO TEXAS. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARLA KIERAKOS. >> THAT'S IT. [LAU [LAUGHING] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL. I'M A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO. I CONSUME LOCALLY. MY DOCTORS, HAIR DRESSERS, GROCERS, GYMS, CHURCHES, AND SCHOOLS ARE ALL PLANO ENTITIES. MY CHILDREN WERE BORN IN PLA HOSPITALS, AND THEY ATTENDED PLANO PUBLIC SCHOOLS K THROUGH 1 AND WERE RAISED IN THE SAME HOME I'VE OWNED FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. ^ MY FAMILY'S LIFE HERE HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF IDEALIC. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN SKILLFULLY MANAGED TO BRING A PERFECT BALANCE OF BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO PLANO. I PURCHASED MY HOME WHEN IT WAS SURROUNDED BY HORSE PASTURE. I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING A WELL-DEVELOPED AGENDA OF PLANNING AND ZONING. I INVESTED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ASSURED WE WOULD HAVE A PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL LIFESTYLE WHERE I COULD RAISE A FAMILY AND POSSIBLY RETIRE SOMEDAY. THAT ASSURANCE HAS ERODE WITH THE APPEARANCE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE VIOLATIONS OF TRASH, PARKING, AND NOISE FOLLOWED THE VIOLATION OPERATING A HOTEL IN A PLANO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. DP YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM, YOU SHOULD JUST LIVE NEXT TO ONE FOR A FEW MONTHS. IT'S INTOLERABLE. IT'S A STARK CONTRAST TO THE IDEALIC LIFESTYLE I PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED. SINCE STRs ARE IN VIOLATION OF A CURRENT PLANO ZONING ORDINANCE, WE THOUGHT THE SLOOEGS SOLUTION WOULD BE A SIMPLE REQUEST TO ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE. INSTEAD, WE FIND OURSELVES HAVING TO CREATE A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT TO CONVINCE YOU THAT IT'S TE TO ACT. WE FOUND OURSELVES FACING OPPOSITION FROM DEEP POCKET REAL ESTATE GROUPS THAT DEFEND THEMSELVES BY MISCHARACTERIZING OUR INTENT. OUR GOAL IS TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN PLANO'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SINCE I BEGAN ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS, I'VE HEARD OUR CAUSE DISTORTED AS TRYING -- IF YOU LIVED IN MY HOUSE, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE. A RESIDENTIAL PARTY IS A LEGAL USE OF MY HOME. NOT PROIBLTED BY PNC. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'VE ALSO HEARD OUR CAUSE FALSIFIED AS TRYING TO OUTLAW LEASIN I'VE HAD HOMES ON BOTH SIDES OF PROPERTY FOR MANY YEARS, AND I HAVE HAD SOME OF MY BEST NEIGHBORS THERE. LEASING YOUR HOME IS A LEGAL USE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. NOT PROHIBITED BY P & Z. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANYONE PURCHASING A HOME IN PLANO AND USING IT FOR ANY LEGAL USE THEY DESIRE. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT PROPERTY RIGHTS. WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT HAVE SERVED THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE SO WELL DURING ITS INCREDIBLY FAST AND SUCCESSFUL GROWTH. THE PROLIFERATION OF STRs IS NOW A REALITY, AND IT'S TIME TO FACE . I ASK YOU, WHERE WILL YOU LAND ON THIS ISSUE? WHAT DECISION WILL YOU MAKE REGARDING OPERATION OF A LEGAL HOTEL IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS? IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ONE, YOUR DECISION WOULD ALREADY BE MADE, LET ME ME ASSURE YOU. THIS IS THE TURNING POINT. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE OUTCOME OF MANY OTHER CITIES. DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE YOUR LEGACY? THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> BARBARA FRANCE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUS AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BARBARA FRANCE, AND I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 25 YEARS. SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE OF CONCERN FOR PLANO RESIDENTS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THIS COUNCIL MANY TIMES. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND PLACING THIS ITEM ON THE SEPTEMBER 12th AGENDA. THIS IS A POSITIVE AND IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS REACHING THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WEOOK EAD TO THIS DISCUSSION, I WANTED TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU. RECENTLY OUR COALITION HAS STARTED REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS PLANO. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH 85 HOA BOARD MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS SO FAR. I PERSONALLY HAVE SPOKEN TO MORE THAN 40 REPRESENTATIVES FROM 40 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. I HAVE SHARED INFORMATION ON THIS TOPIC AND LISTENED TO THEIR OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCES, AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE HEARD. NO ONE WANTS TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE TALKED ABOUT RETIREES, PEOPLE WITH YOUNG FAMILIES, REALTORS, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN PLANO FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND RECENT TRANSPLANTS. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I'VE SPOKEN TO HAS TOLD ME THEY DO NOT WANT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. MANDATORY HOAs ARE SCRAMBLING AND VOLUNTARY HOAs ARE PANICKING. MANDATORY HOA LEADERS ARE SCRAMBLING TO REVIEW THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS, AND EVEN THOUGH THEIR EFFORTS MAY NOT GUARANTEE PROTECTION, THEY ARE SPENDING SIGNIFICANT TIME AND MONEY ATTENDING HOA LEGAL CLINICS, CONSULTING THEIR MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AND HIRING HO LAWYERS. WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. VOLUNTARILY HOAs AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS LIKE MINE ARE PANICKING. WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ENFORCEABLE DEED RESTRICTIONS TO PREVENT THESE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES FROM OPERATING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE RELY SOLELY ON THE ZONING AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE CITY. EVERY TIME A HOUSE GOES ON THE MARKET WE HOLD OUR BREATH. EVERY TIME A HOUSE SELLS, WE WAIT AND WATCH FOR PIN BALL MACHINES AND BUNK BEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN. WE SCAN THE LISTINGS FOR NEW AIRBNBs. WHY? BECAUSE WE DON WANT SHORTERM NTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE KNOW FIRSTHAND THE IMPACT THEY CAN HAVE HAVE. AS ELECTED MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, YOU REPRESENT THE CITY OF PLANO. YOU ALSO ARE CITIZENS OF PLANO. YOU LIVE HERE.pYOU RAISE YOUR F. YOU HAVE FRIENDS HERE. OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO. TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS OUT WALKING THE DOG, AT LABOR DAY BARBECUE. TALK TO THEM. LISTEN TO THEM. ASK THEM WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT THIS. DO THEY THINK SHORT-TERM RENTALS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW WOULD THEY FEEL ABOUT ONE OPENING UP NEXT TO THEM. PLEASE CONTINUE TO LISTEN AND CONTINUE TO KEEP THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY AND THE CITIZENS YOU REPRESENT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> CINDY PATILLO. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'VE LIVED IN THE GLEN MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 29 YEARS. IN MAY I ATTENDED A COUNCIL MEETING TO HEAR MY NEIGHBORS SPEAK ABOUT THE PROLIFERATION OF ILLEGAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOUSES. AT THE NEXT MEETING I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THE PARTY HOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOME. MY FOCUS THEN WAS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES. HOWEVER, NOW MY FOCUS HAS CHANGED BECAUSE THE MORE RESEARCH I DO ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT THE DEVASTATING IMPACT THIS INDUSTRY HAS ON COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS. SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOUSES AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CREATE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. MANY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN SHARED HERE. THEY REPLACE FAMILY HOMES WITH ILLEGAL HOTELS. THEY DISRUPT THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY AS TRANSIENT DROP-INS REPLACE LONG-TERM NEIGHBORS. THEY RAISE THE SALE PRICE AND RENTAL RATES OF SURROUNDING HOMES, REDUCING AFFORDABILITY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MOVE HERE, OF EXISTING HOMEOWNERS. THEY LEAD TO AN INCREASE IN NOISE, TRASH, PARKING ISSUES, AND CRIME FOR SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS, PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH LONG-TERM NEIGHBORS. SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT HOUSE SCHOOLCHILDREN RESULTING IN POTENTIALLY REDUCED ENROLLMENT AND DECREASED SCHOOL FUNDING. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IN PLANO WE HAVE A SOLUTION TO THIS OUR EXISTING ZONING LAWS, WHICH EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT THE OPERATION OF HOTELS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGORHOS. AS PER THE CITY WEBSITE PLANO.GOV, THE DEFINITION OF A HOTEL IS VERY CLEAR. WHAT CONSTITUTES A HOTEL IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED AND INCLUDES, AMONG OTHER ENTITIES, SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS AND VACATION RENTALS BY OWNER, MORE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS VRBOs. CONVENIENTLY, THERE'S ALSO A STATEMENT TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS KNOWN AS HOSTS IN THE INDUSTRY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT PLATFORMS ARE COLLECTING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES ON THEIR BEHALF. CLEARLY, WHEN THE TAX COLLECTION AGREEMENTS REFERRED TO HERE WERE SIGNED, BOTH THE CITY AND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLATFORMS AGREED. SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE HOTELS. AGAIN, ACCORDING TO EXISTING PLANO CITY ZONING, THEY ARE NOT LEGAL IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR OUR CITY A AND FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. WE TRUST THAT YOU WILL. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISS REGARDING THE VERY FUTURE OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEX ST STEIN. >> GUYS, I HAVE SOME TERRIBLE NEWS. DR. ANTHONY FOCI IS RETIRING. I'M SURE YOU HEARD THE BAD NEWS. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. ESPECIALLY WITH THE MONKEY POX EPIDEMIC. YOU KNOW WHO I AM. I'M PRIMETIME 99. I'M THE GREATEST CITY COUNCIL REP OF ALL TIME. DON'T GIVE ME THAT LOOK, MAYOR MUNS. GIVE ME A LITTLE SMILE. GIVE ME A LITTLE SMILE. YOU KNOW YOU'RE HAPPY TO SEE ME. I'M ON THE GRIND ALL THE TIME. I KNOW MY MAN TONY IS HERE. HE SHARED E SHARES THE SAME NAME AS TONY FOUCI. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU SO MUCH, AND ALL OF US COULD BE THE VICTIM MUCH A SERIOUS VIRUS. DR. FOUCI SAVED OUR LIFE. IF IT WASN'T FOR HIM, NE OF US WOULD BE HERE. I HAVE PREPARED A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR YOU FAUCI. DR. FAUCI, WHAT CAN I SAY? YOU MADE ME GAY. DR. FAUCI, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. DR. FAUCI, I NEED -- PLEASE DON'T LEAVE. DR. FAUCI, I -- ALL MY WEED. DR. FAUCI, STICK IT IN MY BUTT. DR. FAUCI, YOU MADE ME NUT. DR. FAUCI, STICK THE NEEDLE. DR. FAUCI, ON THE PEOPLE. >> MY OLD CAR DIED FROM MY HOMEY TITUS. YOU SAID IT'S ON THE VIRUS. I'M ALWAYS ON THE GRIND BECAUSE I'M NUMBER 99. ONE FOR FAUCI IN MY VEIN. UKRAINE. YOU KNOW IT KILLS THE PAIN. THEN I LIKE TO GO INSANE. ONEORE BOOSTER IN MY COOSTER. LIKE A ROOSTER. [INAUDIBLE] ON A POODLE. I'M IN THE BOOTH. ONE MORE TIME, THIS IS THE TRUTH. DR. FAUCI, WHAT CAN I SAY? DR. FAUCI, YOU MADE ME GAY. DR. FAUCI, STICK IT IN MY BUTT. DR. FAUCI, YOU MADE ME NUT. . FAI, IOVEOU SO MUCH. DR. FAUCI, I'LL MISS YOUR TOUCH. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US. WE NEED YOU SO MUCH. DR. FAUCI, PLEASE LET ME TOUCH. ON YOUR BOOTIE, I MISS IT ALL DAY. DR. FAUCI, IN THE MAGAZINE. DR. FAUCI HAS THE BEST VACCINE. MR. MUNS, WE'RE HAVING FUN. DR. FAUCI -- (INAUDIBLE) I MS Y SO DANG MUCH. DR. FAUCI, PLEASE LET ME TOUCH WRUSH I'M GOING TO MISS YOU DOING THE NEEDLE. DOING IT ON A BEETLE. I LOVE YOU. BEST IN THE CLIMATE. THE CLIMATE GETS BETTER. BEST PEOPLE WILL GET MESSAGES. I LOVE YOU, TONY. PRIMETIME 99 ALEX STEIN. INSTAGRAM. THANK YOU, GUYS. YOU GUYS ARE VERY PROUD. GIVE YOURSELVES A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. >> SHARON OVERALL. THE RIGHTS OF THE NONSMOKER HAVE BEEN DISREGARDED FOR DICK EVERY DECADES. IT'S TIME FOR NONSMOKERS' RIGHTS TO BE ADDRESSED. AS LONG AS HE CAN CONTAI 100% OF THE OFFENSIVE AND DEADLY SMOKE TO NOT DRIFT ACROSS HIS PROPERTY LINE. THE SMELL IS DISGUSTING. THE SMOKE C TRIGG A HEART ATTACK OR ASTHMA ATTACK. IF YOU CAN SMELL IT, THEN YOU'VE BEEN ASSAULTED BY HIS SMOKE. ASSAULT BY CONTACT. WHEN EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS OF SECOND HAND SMOKE CAN IRRITATE OTHERS' ALLERGIES AND CAUSE SORE THROATS AND BRONCHIAL INFECTIONS, IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO BAN IT TO PROTECT THE NONSMOKING CITIZENS OF THE CITY. THE NON-CONSENSUAL EXPOSURE TO SECOND HAND SMOKE AND THE UNINVITED PRESENCE OF SECOND HAND SMOKE IS A NUISANCE. SMOKING IS BANNED ON SIDEWALKS IN WAYNVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. THEY BANNED IT IN 2015 ON SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC PARKS, PARKING LOTS, AND GREENWAYS. SMOKING IS BABED ON ALL SIDEWALKS, STREETS, COMMON AREAS, AND SHOPPING CENTERS, RESTAURANT PATIOS, ET CETERA, IN LONG CALIFORNIA. IT INCREASED THE STATE PROHIBITION OF SMOKING WITHIN 20 FEET OF AN ENTRANCE TO 80 FEET. IN 2009 THE CITY AT THE URGING OF LOCAL STUDENTS BANNED SMOKING IN PARKS, CITIES, OPEN SPACES, AND TRAILS, INCLUDING THE PARKING AREAS FOR THESE CITY OPERES. SMOKING IS BANNED ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY OF CHARLESTON'S HOSPITAL DISTRICT. SMOKING IS BANNED ON PRIVATE PATIOS AND BALCONIES AND PRIVATE NON-ENCLOSED AREAS AND ALL ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH TWO OR MORE DWELLINGS IN BURBANK, CALIFORNIA. MARION COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, BANNED SMOKING AS WELL ON BALCONIES AND PATIOS OF CONDOMINIUMS AND APARTMENTS. PLEASANTON, CALIFORNIA, ALSO BANNED SMOKING ON PRIVATE BALCONIES, PATIOS, AND DECKS OF TOWN TOWNHOMES, CONDOMINIUMS AND BUILDINGS WITH THREE OR MORE ATTACHED BUILDINGS LAGUNA BEACH BANNED SMOKING ON ALL BEACHES, SIDEWALKS, PARKS, ALLEYS, PATHWAYS, AND PARKING LOTS. SMOKING BAN STATES, SMOKING IS PROHIBITED IN ALL PUBLIC PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE OTHER PERSONS CAN BE EXPOSED TO SECOND HAND SMOKE. SMOKING IS PROHIBITED EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PLACES OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THIS INCLUDES STREETS, SIDEWALKS, PARKING LOTS, PLAZAS, . ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE SMOKING IS ALLOWED THAT SMOKE IS NOT PERMITTED TO ENTER ADJACENT AREAS IN WHICH SMOKING IS PROHIBITED, OTHER LAWS, OR BY THE OWNER, LEASEEE OR LICENSEE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THIS MEANS YOU HAVE TO CONTAIN THE CIGARETTE SMOKE TO YOUR PROPERTY AND CANNOT ALLOW IT TO DRIFT TO PUBLIC PROPERTY OR TO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. >> GREG PATILLO. >> ONLY SPEAKING THREE MINUTE IS A SHORT TIME, BUT I THINK I JUST EXPERIENCED THE LONGEST THREE MINUTES OF MY LIFE A FEW MINUTES AGO. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS. [LAUGHING] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG PATILLO. A 29-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO. LAST TIME I PROVIDED YOU WITH STATISTICAL DATA RELATED TO STRs CONTRIBUTION TO THE DROP IN ENROLLMENT IN BUDGET DEFICIT CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED BY PISD AS WELL AS LOST JOBS. TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU DATA REGARDING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT OWNER NEIGORHOODS ON LOCAL BUSINESSES. AGAIN, THE SIMPLE INDISPUTABLE TRUTH IN PLANO, FIRST THESE TYPES OF STRs, DISPLACED RESIDENTS AND FAMILIES WITH TRANSIENTS. SECONDS, VERY FEW BUSINESSES IN PLANO, SPECIFICALLY TARGET TRANSIENTS IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. NEXT THERE ARE TWO FOUNDATIONAL FACTS. FIRST IT SUGGESTS THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY -- NOT OPENED OWNERS. SECOND, ACAN ORGANIZED TO THE MOST RECENT DATA PLANO AVERAGES TWO RESIDENTS PER HOUSING UNITS. HONG TO MAKE THIS MORE REAL FOR YOU, I MET WITH MUFF MY CLIENTS DR. PANG. HE WAS FAMILIAR WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT HE WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH HOW MANY HE WERE NOR THE IMPACT ON HIS BUSINESS. WE USED THE RECENT CONSTITUTED WHY I BY THE VISION IMPACT INSTITUTE, WHICH REPORTED 75% OF ADULTS IN THE U.S. REQUIRE SOME FORM OF VISION CORRECTION. THE PERCENTAGE FOR YOUTH WAS MUCH LOWER, BUT INCREASED WITH AGE. USING AN AGE-WEIGHTED PERCENTAGE WE FOUND THAT STRs HAVE ELIMINATED 940 PLANO RESIDENTS THAT WOULD NEED THE SERVICES AND PRODUCTS THAT DR. PANG AND TRINITY EYE CARE OFFERS. CERTAINLY, THOSE WOULD NOT BE A WOULD BE SOMEBODY'S PATIENTS. DR. PANG INVESTS HEAVILY IN DIGITAL MARKETING AND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN AN ARRIVALING CONVERSION RATE OF AROUND 30% WITH A HIGH OF 35 AND A LOW OF 20%. THE RESIDENTS WERE BROUGHT BACK IN TO WHAT ARE CURRENTLY STRs, IF JUST HALF OF THE 631 HOUSEHOLDS USED LOCAL SEARCH WITH A CONCERTED CONVERSION RATE OF 25%, 79 HOUSEHOLDS WOULD CONTACT TRINITY EYE CARE AND THAT WOULD RESULT POSSIBLY UP TO 128 ADDITIONAL PATIENTS FOR HIS PRACTICE. IF TRINITY CLOSED JUST 15%, THA. AFTER LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, HE WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THE COUNCIL OF CONSIDERING MAKING STRs A PERMANENT FIXTURE IN PLANO COMMUNITIES. THERE'S A QUICK NOTE THAT THESE PATIENTS VISIT EVERY YEAR, SOMETIMES MORE, AND THERE ARE LOST REFERRALS. LET'S CALL THAT THE THIRD INDISPUTABLE TRUTH. IT IS RESIDENTS THAT MAKE REPEAT BUSINESS AND ORGANIC GROWTH BY WORD OF MOUTH POSSIBLE FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES. NOW EXTEND THIS MODEL TO DENTEDISTS, MOST MEDICAL PRACTICES VETERINARIANS THERAPY, AND THE LIKE. EVEN LOOKING AT THE BIGGER BUSINESS THAT SURROUNDS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ADEM OFFICE MAX, MICHAEL'S, HOBBY LOBBY, CAR MAX, SOME OR ALL HAVE LOST SALES TO THE STRs JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU ARE SACRIFICING SALES TAX REVENUE TO OBTAIN H.O.T. REVENUE. IT DOES NOT COME WITHOUT A COST. LAST WEEK EVEN IF THE BUREAUCRACY CAN EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THE NUISANCES, MOST OF THE ENFORCEMENT BURDEN WILL STILL FALL TO THE SURROUNDING HOME OWNERS. IT WILL BE JUST A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAT WE CALL. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE BUREAUCRACY, RULES, PERMIT FEESES, PENALTIES WILL NOT BRING HOMES BACK INTO THE HOUSIN STUDENTSACK TO PIC, OR OF WORKFORCE BACK THAT HAS BEEN PRICED OUT OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES IN PLANO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> SINCE WE'RE HAVING SEVERAL CITIZENS COMMENT ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE. I KNOW THAT EARLIER I BELIEVE MS. FRANCE MENTIONED THE SEPTEMBER 12th MEETING. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE FOR AN UPDATE. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION ARE GOING TO BE UNAVAILABLE ON THE 12th. WE ARE WORKING TO RESCHEDULE SOME OF OUR FOLKS. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT THROUGH MR. FRANCE. WE HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION, BUT IT MAY BE OCTOBER OR POSSIBLY EVEN EARLY NOVEMBER. WE'RE HOPING FOR OCTOBER. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO PUSH THIS OUT ANY FURTHER THAN WE HAVE TO. SPECIFICALLY, THE ATTORNEY THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR HAS A CONFLICT. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT AS A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE OF THE AGENCIES THAT WE HAD TALD A. I WANTED TO PROVIDE COUNCIL THAT UPDATE AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS THAT SHOWED UP HERE KNOWING THAT SEPTEMBER 12th WAS GOING TO BE A TARGETED DATE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO MATERIALIZE QUITE AS WE WANTED, BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE AT LEAST A PRELIMINARY OPEN UPDATE AT THAT TIME. THEN WE'LL HAVE HOPEFULLY THOSE RESOURCES AT A MEETING FOLLOWING THAT THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE REACH OUT AND LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN THEY WILL BE HERE. JUST WANTED PROVIDE THAT UPDATE. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT SPEAKSER IS RITA KULPECCI. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE FOR A MOMENT. I WANTED TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE MORE TEMPORARY RESIDENTS IN PLANO. NOW, IT HAS NOTHING AGAINST WHAT HAS JUST BEEN PRESENTED AGAINST HAVING SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ALL THAT, BUT AS YOU KNOW FROM LOOKING AROUND PLANO AND FROM THE THINGS THAT YOU OBSERVE ALL THE TIME, WE ARE INCREASINGLY BECOMING A CITY THAT HAS A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND AOT OF TURNOVER AND A LOT OF SHORT-TERM. MANY, MANY, MANY OF THESE SHORT-TERM PEOPLE ARE, AS SHORT-TERM AS THEY ARE, BECAUSE THE RENTAL INDUSTRY IS COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY OVER THE BUDGET OF MOST PEOPLE, BUT BUYING A HOME IS ALSO COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BUDGET OF MANY PEOPLE. NOW, I'M NOT HERE TO PROTEST THOSE PRICES BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW ABOUT THAT. WHAT I AM GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT IS THE KIND OF TRASH AND INTAKE OF THAT THAT COMES ALONG WITH ALL OF THE TEMPORARY RESIDENCY, AFTERNOONS THE PEOPLE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH RENTAL PROPERTIES IN HOMES THAT ARE SHORT-TERM. WE FIND THE SAME THING IN APARTMENTS CONDOS TOWNHOMES. EVERYTHING WHERE THERE'S A HIGH RATE OF TURNOVER. PEOPLE COME IN AND BUY UP PROPERTIES, SIDE-BY-SIDE BY SIDE, AND THEY RENT THEM OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE CITY FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, TWO YEARS MAXIMUM. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT DUMPING TRASH, HUGE FURNITURE ITEMS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS CONSTANTLY IN RESIDENCES THAT ARE ALSO OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE EN HERE FOR 30 AND 40 YEARS AND OWN THOSE PLACES AND LOVE THEM. I MYSELF DWELL IN A CONDO. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I NEEDED TO DUMP A MATTRESS. WELL, I KNOW BETTER THAN TO TAKE IT DOWN TO THE DUMPSTER. YOU TAKE IT DOWN TO THE DUMPSTER IT'S JUST UNSIGHTLY TRASH. I RENTED A PICKUP, TOOK IT TO THE CITY DUMP. THEY CHARGED ME ALMOST $70 TO DUMP A MATTRESS. THE REASON IS BECAUSE I'M NOT A TAXPAYER, BUT I AM. I OWN THAT PLACE. I PAY TAXES. NOT ONLY DO I PAY TAXES. I PAY ON THE WATER BILL. NOW, I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY THAT WE DON GET TO USE THOSE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE ARE THOSE WHO ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF LOWER PRICING WITHIN AN HOA. I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER TWO THINGS ON THIS. NUMBER ONE, IF WE ARE A CITY OF EXCELLENCE AND WE'RE GROWING SO EXPONENTIALLY WITH SHORT-TERM APARTMENTS THAT ROLL OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR, PERHAPS CONSIDER GIVING A WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO SHOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE LIVING IN A PLACE FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS AND THEN CONSIDER GIVING THEM AN ABILITY TO USE THE CITY SANITATION -- SHOWING THAT PROOF AND HAVING A FLAT RATE. THAT WOULD BE ONE SOLUTION. THE OTHER SOLUTION WOULD BE HAVING ROUND-UP TIMES THAT ARE THERE FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE SEE IS INSTEAD OF THERE BEING A SOLUTION, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DUMPING THINGS, LEAVING THEM, AND IT'S UNSIGHTLY FOR RESIDENTS OF THOSE PLACES. I JUST PRESENT THIS TO YOU ALL. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, BUT OUR SHORT-RM RESIDENTS ARE GROWING E EXPONENTIALLY IN NUMBER. WE WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN PRETTY PLACES TOO. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> OUR STAFF WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. YOUR WATER BILL SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO ACCESS THE CITY TRANSFER STATIONS AT NO ADDITIONAL FEE. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU THIS WEEK TO DISCUSS THAT AND WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS THERE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TRIED AND TRUE WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO BE ABLE FOR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE THEIR WATER BILL OR HAVE IT IN A PRINTABLE FORM THAT THEY CAN GO AND DO THAT. IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF MISCOMMUNICATION ALONG THOSE LINES -- >> THE SNAFUS THAT COME THROUGH THE HOA OR COMES THROUGH AN APARTMENT DWELLERS, SO EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE WATER BILL, IT'S THROUGH AN AGENCY. THAT'S WHERE THE DISPUTE IS. >> OH, SO THE SUBDIVIDED WATER BILL. YES. >> WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT WITH YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MARY M MU MUNK MUNKOWITZ. >> GOOD EVENING. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING. THANK YOU. WE DO PRAY FOR YOU AT MY CHURCH, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT THE JOB THAT YOU DO AND ASK GOD TO GUIDE YOU. I'M A CURRENT 16-YEAR RESIDENT ARRIVING IN HOT AUGUST ABOUT 43 YEARS AGO. MY FAMILY STAYED THREE YEARS, AND THEN WE WENT ON FAIRVIEW. IN 2010 I RETURNED AS A SINGLE SENIOR AND MOVED TO AN APARTMENT IN WEST PLANO. MY RENT WAS RAISING EACH YEAR, SO I BEGAN A SEARCH FOR AVAILABLE HOUSING AND BOUGHT MY CONDO IN THE ZIP CODE 75074. CONCURRENTLY, I STARTED WORKING FOR A WALGREENS AS A CASHIER. THAT'S STILL MY POSION. UPDATING ADDRESSES AND ZIP CODES IS A PART OF MY WORK ROUTINE, GIVING MY A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF LIFE IN MY PARTICULAR ZIP CODE. THE CAUSE THAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS THAT THE HIGH RENTAL THAT KEEPS ON GOING, GOING, GOING IS AFFECTING COLLEGE STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND EVERYTHING, AND I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION, SOLUTIONS, PLURAL, AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED. ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE FACT ALSO THAT I AM A CONDO OWNER AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE FACILITY ON THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DUMP AT ALL. NEITHER CAN I OR MY FELLOW TAX-PAYING AT THIS TIME ZENZ WHO ARE RENTERS. PLEASE, WOULD YOU CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING? THANK YOU KINDLY FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MARYOR: WE'VE HAD A REQUES TO MOVE ITEM B, ITEM L, AND ITEM M, AND COUNCIL MEMBER RICIARDELLI WILL RECUSE HIMSELF FROM ITEM E. IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> MAYOR MUNS: WITH THAT BEING SAID -- >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR TUNNELS B, E, L, AND M. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF B, E, L, AND M. PLEASE VOTE. HOW DO YOU VOTE, RICK? >> I VOTE YES. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. WE COULD CHANGE YOUR NAME. MOTION PASSES 8-0. ITEM B IS BEING REQUESTED TO REMOVE BY THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO DO THERE. WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AT A FUTURE AGENDA. >> MAYOR MUNS: ITEM E. >> ITEM E. TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF BUILDING ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM UPGRADES IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $428,737, AND RATIFY PREVIOUS PURCHASES IN THEMOUNT O $111,864 FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $540,601, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE OF HONEYWELL DUAL READER CIRCUIT BOARDS FROM TEXAS FIRE & SOUND IN IN THE AMOUNT OF $160,720. THE CONSOLIDATION AND UPGRADE OF THE EXISTING HONEYWELL WIN-PAK ACCESS CONTROL SOFTWARE SYSTEM FROM TEXAS FIRE & SOUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $168,017, THE PURCHASE OF IDENTIFICATION/ACCESS CONTROL BADGES FROM ANIXTER INCORPORATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000, THE RATIFICATION OF A PREVIOUS EXPENDITURE FOR THE PURCHASE OF DUAL CARD READER CIRCUIT BOARDS FROM TEXAS FIRE & SOUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $55,584, AND THE RATIFICATION OF A PREVIOUS EXPENDITURE FOR THE PURCHASE OF DUAL READER CIRCUIT BOARDS FROM STS 360 IN THE AMOUNT OF $56,280 TROUGH EXISTING CONTRACTS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER T EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. I DIDN'T GET ALL THAT. COULD YOU SAY IT AGAIN? [LAUGHING] I WON'T ASK YOU TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM E. PLEASE VOTE. >> I VOTE YES. >> MAR: OKAY. MOTION PASSES 7-0 WITH ONE RECUSAL. WE CAN COME BACK. ALL RIGHT. ITEM L. >> ITEM L. TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $138,815 FOR THE HOMELESS HOUSING AND SERVICES PROGRAM UNDER THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 2306.2585 DESIGNATING THE CITY MANAGER AS CHIEF -- I CAN'T READ ANYMORE -- EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXECUTING THE CONTRACT WITH THIS RESOLUTION GIVING REQUIRED ASSURANCES, ACTING IN CONNECTION WITH SAID CONTRACT, AND PROVIDING REQUIRED INFORMATION, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY, YOU PULLED THIS ITEM. >> YES, I DID. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO ASK. ON ITEM L THE $138,815, DOES THE CITY HOLD E PULL ANY ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS OUT OF THE $138,815? >> I CAN ANSWER THAT BASED ON LAST YEAR'S SINCE WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS YEAR'S. LAST YEAR OUT OF THE $138,444, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAP WAS $4,084, WHICH IS ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 2%. MAYBE A LITTLE CLOSER TO 3%. OF THAT IN THIS GRANT HALF OF THAT -- APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THAT WAS GONE AHEAD AND TRANSFERRED TO THE AGENCY. THE CONTRACTS. >> IT SAYS IN THE -- IT SAYS IN THE DOCUMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT THERE'S TWO AGENCIES, BUT I ONLY SAW THAT THE SALVATION ARMY IS -- WHO IS THE SECOND AGENCY? >> SO THIS -- THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY ONE AGENCY. WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED, WE HAD TWO AGENCIES THAT CAME INTO IT WITH A JOINT APPLICATION. THAT WAS CITY HOUSE AS WELL AS THE ASSISTANT CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY. THEY APPLIED FOR AN RFP BACK IN 2018. THEY WERE THE ONES SELECTED. THEN CITY HOUSE INFORMED US THAT FOR CAPACITY REASONS THEY COULD NO LONGER SERVE AS OUR SUBRECIPIENT TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGM. CURRENTLY GOING FORWARD, THERE'S JUST -- IT'S JUST THE ONE AGENCY, THE SALVATION ARMY. >> OKAY. SO THE SALVATION ARMY IS BASICALLY GOING TO RECEIVE ABOUT $134,000 ROUGHLY DOLLARS. ARE THEY GOING TO DO ALL OF THE . I SAW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RENTAL, TRANSPORTATION, CHILD CARE, ET CETERA. ARE THEY GOING TO BE HANDLING ALL OF THAT? >> I DO WANT TO CLARIFY. WE DON'T PAY CHILD CARE WITH THIS GRANT. YES, THEY'LL HAVE ADMIN PORTION OF THE MONEY. THEY'LL HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT. THEY'LL HELP ADMIN AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, THE RENT AND UTILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH WHOM EVER IS IN THE PROGRAM. YES SIR. >> THEY'RE ALSO THEN WORKING WITH THE RAPID REHOUSING? THIS IS THE CITY'S RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM.pTHE WAY THE S THROUGH THE HOMELESS HOUSING AND SERVICES PROGRAM FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. >> OKAY. WE STARTED OUT. IT SAYS THAT WE HELPED 73 PEOPLE AND LATER ON WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE 46 PEOPLE WHO WERE STILL IN HOUSING FOR A PERIOD OF, I THINK IT WAS THREE MONTHS OR GREATER. DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER 27? >> I COULD FIND OUT AND GET BACK WITH YOU BECAUSE SINCE THE PROGRAM'S INCEPTION -- SO I CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT. THAT WAS AT THE THREE-MONTH MARK. A LOT OF PEOPLE END UP EITHER MOVING AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WENT. THE SUB-RECIPIENT, WHOEVER THAT AGENCY WAS THAT WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANT, EVEN WHEN SOMETIMES THE PARTICIPANT MAY NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR MAYBE STILL NEEDS CASE MANAGEMENT. SOME OF THE AGENCIES WILL PUT THEM INTO ANOTHER PROGRAM TO FURTHER ASSIST THEM. >> OKAY. SO IF THE 73 IS SINCE THE PROGRAM'S INCEPTION, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP LAST YEAR? >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE ONLY COUNT UNDUTY INDICATED. LAST YEAR WE ONLY HAD ONE NEW UNDUPLICATED PERSON THAT WE COULD ASSIST. THE REASON IS LAST YEAR WE STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTING AGENCY THAT WE HAD THAT I JUST MENTIONED BEFORE. THEY HAD THEIR MANAGER OVER THE PROGRAM LEAVE. WE HAD ASKED THEM ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE WITH US? THEY HAD TOLD US YES. THEN, AFTER THE CONTRACT WITH THE STATE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER, THEY CAME BACK, AND THEY COULDN'T DO IT. WHAT THEY TOLD US IS THEN THE CASE MANAGER FOR THE PROGRAM LEFT. EVEN THOUGH THEY TRIED. THEY DID REPLACE THE CASE MANAGER, A LOT OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WAS WITH THE PROGRAM FROM THE MANAGER THAT LEFT WENT AWAY. SO, IT WAS HARD. SO, THEY ASKED US TO END THE CONTRACT, AND WE SAID YES. THAT HAPPENED. IN NOVEMBER WE WENT OUT WITH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND SUBMITTED THAT FOR THE DISTRIBUTION LIST OF THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS ASSOCIATION, AND THE CONTINUE OF CARE GROUP AS WELL AS THE COLLIN COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICE -- CCSSA. COLLIN COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES -- SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES. I APOLOGIZE IF ANYONE FROM CCSA IS ON. YES, WE WENT OUT. SALVATION ARMY IS THE ONE THAT CAME BACK SAYING THEY COULD DO IT. THEY HAD A PLAN. THEY COULD NOT ACTUALLY START. THEY HAD TO GET UP AND RUNNING. THEY HAD TO HIRE STAFF TO DO IT. THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T REALLY START RUNNING THE PROGRAM UNTIL MARCH. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, WE DIDN'T ACCEPT NEW APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THAT MEANT THAT THE CITY -- THAT OUR STAFF HAD TO NOW MAKE SURE THAT THE RENTS WERE PAID, UTILITIES WERE PAID, AND THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY ON OUR TEAM THAT COULD CALL THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS MONTHLY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS OKAY AND IF THEY NEEDED SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET IT R THEM. THIS UPCOMING YEAR WE'RE EXCITED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER. SALVATION ARMY IS MORE STABLE. EVERYBODY IS IN A MORE STABLE PLACE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. >> SO IF WE HELPED JUST ONE PERSON LAST YEAR, WERE THERE FUNDS LEFT OVER THAT WE'RE RESERVING FOR THIS YEAR, OR DID WE HAVE TO RETURN THOSE FUNDS? >> WHAT HAPPENED IS WE ENDED UP NOT USING ALL OF THE STATE'S FUNDS. LAST YEAR THE STATE HAD GIVEN US ADDITIONAL MONEY BECAUSE OF COVID. WHEN THE EXISTING AGENCY -- THE AGENCY THAT WE HAD, WHICH WAS CITY HOUSE, WHEN THEY WERE UNABLE TO USE ALL OF THE FUNDS, THEY REQUESTED US TO CARRY IT OVER. WE ASKED THE STATE TO CARRY IT OVER. WHAT THEY USED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BEFORE WE WERE WITHOUT WAS THE OLD MONEY FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT WAS THE EXTRA MONEY THAT TDHCA HAD GIVEN US. WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL OF THIS YEAR'S MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED OR THIS PAST YEAR, THIS GRANT THAT ENDS AUGUST 31st, WAS NOT SPENT. BECAUSE IT SITS IN THE STATE'S ACCOUNT, IN ESSENCE, WE NEVER HAD IT. IT WAS SET ASIDE FOR US. WILL GO BACK IN THE POT. WE HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF UNALLOCATED FUNDS BEFORE. THEY WILL REALLOCATE THEM TO ANOTHER AGENCY. THEN WE'LL START AGAIN, SEPTEMBER 1. > OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: SURE. GO AHEAD. NOW COUNCILMAN GRADY HAS MY MIND WORKING, WHICH IS A DANGERUS THING SOMETIMES. >> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SO WE WEAVE GIVE IT BACK TO THE STATE. IS THE GRANT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR THE FUNDS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECEIVING THIS YEAR BASICALLY JUST GIVING OUR MONEY BACK TO US? >> NO. WHEN YOU DON'T USE YOUR STATE'S ALLOCATION THAT THEY'VE SET ASIDE, IT JUST GOES BACK INTO THE STATE'S BUDGET. >> EXACTLY. SO IT'S RETURNED BACK TO THE STATE. >> IT'S RETURNED BACK TO THE STATE. >> SO, AGAIN, WE HAVE 130 SOME THOUSAND LAST YEAR. WE DIDN'T USE IT. THIS YEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 130 SOMETHING THOUSAND. WE'RE BASICALLY JUST GOING TO BE HAVI AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE FUNDS THAT WE DIDN'T USE LAST YEAR. IS THAT THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT? >> NO. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE CITY'S BUDGET. >> THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. THAT'S THE WAY IT SOUNDS TO ME. >> THE APPROPRIATION STARTS OVER EVERY YEAR IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. >> OH, RIGHT, RIGHT. >> RATHER THAN IT ROLLING OVER OR GOING -- IT GOES BACK INTO A POOL, AND THAT POOL MIGHT BE WHERE WE GET ALLOCATED FOR AGAIN, BUT THAT APPROPRIATION EACH YEAR IS BASICALLY STARTING OVER. >> SO THIS BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT YOKNOW, OUR UTILITY FUND IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE. IT SEEMS IT RUNS OUT WAY BEFORE THE END OF THE TERM. COULD WE NOT -- BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A SITUATION, AGAIN, WHERE WE'RE GIVING MONEY BACK THAT WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM FROM BEING HOMELESS AND REHOUSING AND THINGS. WELL, THEY CAN'T PAY THE UTILITY BILLS. THEY COULD BECOME HOMELESS. COULD WE NOT USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THE UTILITY PURPOSES RATHER THAN JUST END UP GIVING THEM BACK INTO THE POOL? >> SO WE RUN -- HHSP FUNDS IN PLANO ARE FOR A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD THE STATE THAT THE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT ON, THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT ON PEOPLE THAT JOIN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY WERE LITERALLY HOMELESS. SO, WHEN SOMEBODY -- NO. THE QUICK ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO. >> I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THEY ARE INTEWINED. FOR SURE. OKAY. THANKS. LESS CONFUSED. >> WE HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA ALONG THOSE LINES THAT LAURIE IS WORKING ON. >> GOT YOU. >> COUNCILMAN RICIARDELLI. >> JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY BROUGHT UP THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE NEW UNDUPLICATED INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS ASSISTED LAST YEAR. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT MEANS THAT 72 INDIVIDUALS HAD BEEN ASSISTED PREVIOUSLY. SOMEBODY WHO HAD NOT BEEN ASSISTED WAS ASSISTED LAST YEAR, BUT HOW MANY OF THE 72 WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED ASSISTANCE RECEIVED ASSISTANCE AGAIN LAST YEAR? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OF THE CARRY-OVER. THERE'S ONLY A 12-MONTH PERIOD THAT SOMEONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WHEN THEY COME IN IN DECEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> I SEE. >> THEY COULD CARRY OVER. >> THEY'LL BE RECEIVING THE PLANNED ASSISTANCE, AND THEY WILL END UP IN TWO PLAN YEARS. >> YOU'VE GOT IT. IT'S JUST WE CAN ONLY COUNT SOMEONE OR HOUSEHOLD ONCE IN THE PLAN YEAR. >> I SEE. >> IT DOESN'T MEANE HAV'T BEEN HELPING OTHER HOUSEHOLDS. >> BASICALLY IT'S NOT JUST ONE LAST YEAR. >> YOU GOT IT. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MAYOR: MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND? PLEASE VOTE. >> I VOTE YES. >> MAR: THANK YOU, RICK. MOTION PASSES 8-0. ITEM M. >> ITEM M: TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO COMPETE $44,473 FOR THE HOMELESS HOUSING AND SERVICES PROGRAM YOUTH SET-ASIDE UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 2306.2585, DESIGNATING THE CITY MANAGER AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND AUTHORIZED REPRENTATIVE OF THE CITY FOR PURPOSES OF EXECUTING THE CONTRACT CONSISTENT WITH THE RESOLUTION GIVING REQUIRED ASSURANCES, ACTING IN CONNECTION WITH SAID CONTRACT, PROVIDING REQUIRED INFORMATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: HOLD ON. RICK. >> I HAVE QUESTIONS. [LAUGHING] >> NOT GOING TO LET YOU GO THAT QUICKLY. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, RICK >> AGAIN, ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE I WAS WONDERING WITH THE $44,000 THAT WE'RE DOING, DOES SALVATION ARMY OR DOES THE CITY REMOVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS? IF SO, IS IT THE SALVATION ARMY THAT RECEIVES THE FUNDS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, OR IS IT THE CITY? >> THE CITY DOESN'T TAKE ANY OF THESE FUNDS. WE DIDN'T WHEN IT WAS A CITY HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL ALREADY. THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN THAT THE CITY HAS FOR SUCH A SMALL GRANT IS MUCH SMALLER. SO, THIS ENTIRE CONTRACT GOES TO SALVATION ARMY. >> OKAY. SO YOU SET ASIDE PROGRAM, THE SALVATION ARMY IS MANAGING THAT PROGRAM. IT SAYS THAT THERE WERE 73 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ASSISTED, 18 OF THEM YOUTH. I GUESS WHEN I SEE THAT IT'S A YOUTH SET-ASIDE PROGRAM, AND 18 OF THE 73 ARE YOUTH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DID YOU CLASSIFY THE OTHER ONES? >> SO THE STATE SAY THAT 18 TO EITHER 22 OR 24. I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME. IS CONSIDERED YOUTH. SO ANYONE OLDER THAN THOSE AGES IS CONSIDERED JUST A GENERAL SET-ASIDE AND ADULT. >> CAN THE PROGRAM THEN BE USED FOR THEM IF IT'S A SET-ASIDE FOR YOUTH? >> SO THE SET-ASIDE FOR YOUTH CAN ONLY BE USED ON PEOPLE WITHIN THAT AGE RANGE. I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION OR IF I JUST ANSWERED IT. CAN YOU -- >> I'M JUST TRYING TO -- I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IT SAYS IN E DOCUMENT THAT 73 INDIVIDUALS WERE ASSISTED WITH THIS PROGRAM, 18 OF THEM WERE YOUTH. SO I'M LOOKING AT IT GOING, IF ONLY 18 OF THEM WERE YOUTH, THE OTHER 55 WERE OLDER THAN YOUTH? >> YES, SIR. >> BUT THE MONEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR YOUTH. I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED. >> SO, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEER. >> GO AHD. >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE DISCONNECT. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN THIS. THE 73 INDIVIDUALS THAT BENEFITED UNDER THE OVERALL PROGRAM ARE THE SAME 73 INDIVIDUALS REFERRED TO IN ITEM L, SO THE YOUTH SET-ASIDE IS REFERRING TO 18 OUT OF THOSE 73 WHO WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THE YOUTH SET-ASIDE SPECIFICALLY. >> YOU'RE CORRECT. >> DOES THAT CLARIFY THINGS, RICK? >> IT SURE DOES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR: THANK YO >> I ALREADY MADE A MOTION. >> MAYOR: SAY IT AGAIN FOR FUN. MOTION >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I DID HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS UP TOO MUCH. JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM'S EFFECTIVENESS, ONE THING I NOTICED IN REVIEWING THIS ITEM IS THAT THERE WERE 73 INDIVIDUALS HELD OF WHOM 55 WERE NOT YOUTH AND 18 WERE YOUTH. IT SAYS THAT THE 46 MAINTAINED THEIR HOUSING AT LEAST THREE MONTHS AFTER EXITING THE PROGRAM, BUT ONLY EIGHT OF THOSE WERE YOUTH. BY MY CALCULATIONS, THAT MEANS THAT 38 OF THE 55 WHO ARE NOT YOUTH OR OVER TWO-THIRDS MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING MORE THAN THREE MONTHS AFTER EXITING THE PROGRAM, BUT ONLY EIGHT OUT OF 18 YOUTH, WHICH IS A LITTLE UNDER HALF, SO IT SEEMS THAT THE PROGRAM WAS -- YOUTH IN THE PROGRAM HAD A HARDER TIME MAINTAINING THEIR HOUSING AFTER EXITING THE PROGRAM. DOES THAT JUST HAVE TO DO WITH DIFFICULTIES FACED BY YOUTH AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS, OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY TO BETTER ASSIST THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF YOUTH EXITING THIS PROGRAM? >> SO OUR YOUTH, A LOT OF THEM REQUIRE MORE CASE MANAGEMENT. WHEN YOU ARE 18 AND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN APARTMENT, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A CASE MANAGER, IT'S CHALLENGING. YOU'RE LEARNING TO BE AN ADULT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A CASE MANAGER AS WELL AS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO -- BETTER YOUR LIE FROM BEING HOMELESS TO BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT. THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT. IT DOES. OUR CASE MANAGER SPENDS MORE TIME WITH OUR YOUTH BECAUSE OF THAT. pWE DO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBE. OUR CASE MANAGER LOOKS AT THOSE MORE CASE MANAGEMENT? IT'S JUST A CHALLENGING AGE. >> OKAY. SO WE ARE PUTTING EVEN MORE CASE MANAGEMENT EFFORT INTO THIS YOUTH DEMOGRAPHIC, BUT IN SPITE OF THAT, THE YOUTH JUST HAVE A HARDER TIME DUE TO THEIR YOUTH MAINTAINING THAT HOUSING AFTER EXITING THE PROGRAM? >> YES, EVEN THOUGH CITY HOUSE DOESN'T RUN THE PROGRAM, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY HOUSE. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE A TRANSITIONAL LIVING PROGRAM FOR YOUTH. A LOT OF THEIR YOUTH COMES FROM THAT PROGRAM. THE CASE MANAGER IN THIS PROGRAM CA REFER EVEN THOSE YOUTH THAT DIDN'T COME FROM CITY HOUSES TRANSITIONAL LIVING PROGRAM TO CITY HOUSE, AND THEY WILL CASE-MANAGE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT A PART OF THEIR TRANSITIONAL LIVING PROGRAM. >> OKAY. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK ON THIS PROGRAM HELPING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED, AND I'LL SECOND THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM'S MOTION. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> MAYOR: I DO HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR ITEM M. PLEASE VOTE. >> RICK GRADY VOTES YES. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, RICK. >> THANK YOU, ALL. >> MAYOR: MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSID CONSIDERATION? >> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIF-MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEESHGZ ARE LIMITED TO TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM, AND THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE. >> YES. KAREN WHITLEY. BEFORE YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP-TO-DATE WITH SEVERAL CHANGES THAT'S GONE ON SINCE THE AUGUST 13th BUDGET WORK SESSION. IT WAS DECIDED AT THAT MEETING YOU WANTED US TO BRING BACK THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OF 41.76 CENTS. YOUR ONM RIGHT NOW IS 30.26 CENTS. YOUR DEBT REMAINED UNCHANGED AT 11.5. WE WENT BACK, AND WE DID SERAL CHANGES. YOUR OPERATING BUDGET NOW TOTALS $675.9 MILLION, WHICH IS DOWN. WE DO HAVE COPIES OF THESE FUND SUMMARIES WITHIN YOUR PACKETS. THE CIP OR THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM IS NOW $332.7 MILLION, WHICH IS UP FROM $330 MILLION. THE CHANGES THAT ALLOWED US TO GO IN AND LOWER THE TAX RATE WERE DUE TO IN THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND. WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE $5.7 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT WERE LOCATED IN THE REESTIMATE. WE MOVED $2.1 MILLION OF THOSE PROJECTS INTO 22-23, AND THE REMAINING ABOUT $3 MILLION TO BE MOVED OVER TO '23-'24. IN ADDITION TO GOING THROUGH THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND ^ WE HAD RECEIVED INCREASED SALES TAX BY ABOUT $1.5 MILLION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO ALLOW US TO GET DOWN TO THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE. IN ADDITION, LATE FRIDAY WE DID RECEIVE WORD FROM DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THEY ARE STILL WORKING TO GET OUT THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL. THEY DID GIVE US AN UPDATE, THOUGH. THE ESTIMATE CAME IN WE WERE AT $51.9 BILLION. FOR YOUR TAX ROLL YOU'RE AT $52 BILLION. CERTIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO HIT OUR OFFICE ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 12th, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE DAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE, SO MOST LIKY WE WILL BE COMING BACK I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 26th AND PROVIDING YOU THAT INFORMATION. WE DID GO IN AFTER THE SATURDAY BUDGET WORK SESSION. WE'RE DOING A 9% FOR WATER, 9% SEWER INCREASE. THAT FUND BALANCE IS NOW 55 DAYS OF WORKING CAPITAL, AND ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVICES WE'RE GOING UP $2.50 A MONTH, AND, OF COURSE, THEY'RE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ONE DAY OF WORKING CAPITAL. THOSE ARE THE UPDATES WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR: OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> KAREN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED US AS A BODY AND REALLY ALL OF THE CITIZENS THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT TO GET TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE USED A SIGNIFCANT AMOUNT OF WHAT I WOULD CALL ONE-TIME FUNDING. YOU CAN KIND OF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. RATE IS A NEW VERNACULAR.NUE IT HASN'T BEEN IN OPERATION FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN VERY CLOSE OR AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS AN ECONOMIC MODEL THAT JUST CAN'T STAND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND HERE'S REALLY WHY. IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CURRENT BUDGET TODAY AND, AGAIN, AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IT MEANS THAT WE APPLY $18 MILLION WORTH OF ONE-TIME FUNDING TO IT. IT MEANS THAT WE HAD IN EXCESS OF SALES TAX OF $4 MILLION, AND IT MEANS THAT WE MOVED OUT PROGRAMS OUT OF THE CIP THAT WE NEEDED TO DO, BUT DETERMINED WE WOULD PUSH THOSE OFF TO FUTURE YEARS. WE KNOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COST US MORE IN THE FUTURE YEARS AS WE PUSH THOSE OUT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ONE-TIME FUNDING ALL THE TIME, SO THAT'S BEEN A LUXURY THAT WE'VE SEEN DURING THE COVID PEOD, DURING OTHER EXTRANEOUS THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE. SALES TAX CERTAINLY HAS INCREASED, AND AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING HERE IN AUSTIN, SAYS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE SAW A SALES TAX INCREASE IS BECAUSE THE CHANGE IN LEGISLATION WHERE OUT OF STATE PURCHASES, THE SALES TAX WOULD BE COLLECTED WHERE THE DESTINATION WAS, SO WE SAW AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX, BUT WE ALSO SAW IT COMING OUT OF COVID. A LOT OF PEOPLE SPENDING MORE THAN THEY DID BEFORE. WE SAW AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX. I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE HAD THE LUXURY OF USING ONE-TIME FUNDING. WE'VE HAD THE LUXURY OF USING SALES TAX FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET TO ACHIEVE A NO NEW REVENUE RATE. MY FEAR IS THAT IN FUTURE YEARS THOSE WON'T BE THERE, AND THAT $18 MILLION PLUS $4 MILLION EQUALS ALMOST 10% OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT IN AD VALOREM TAXES THIS YEAR. IF THAT'S NOT THERE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE 10% SHORT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS THAT WE PUSHED OUT INTO THE FUTURE YEAR. AM I KIND OF COMING AT THAT CORRECTLY? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> OKAY. AGAIN, IT'S A FEAR OF MINE. >> COUNCILMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ONE POINT OF CLARIF CLARIFICATION. TO ACHIEVE THE $4.5 MILLION THAT WE HAD FOR -- TO REACH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE VERSUS WHERE WE WERE, WE HAD THE ADDITIONAL INCREASED SALES TAX NUMBER, WHICH WAS $1.5 MILLION, BUT WE LOOKED BACK AT WHERE WE WERE IN OUR CIP VERSUS WHERE WE PROJECT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP THE CAPACITY TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXHAUST ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE IN THAT CIP ITEM, SO IT WOULD BE ROLLING OVER NEXT YEAR AS A CARRY-FORWARD AS SOME FORM OF PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY GET THAT LEVEL OF PROJECT DONE AND THEN NEXT YEAR BECAME KIND OF A COMPOUNDING FACTOR OF THINGS. WHIL WE'RE TECHNICALLY PUSHING OUT, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS REGARDLESS OF THE FUNDING TO THE END OF THE YEAR, SO THERE IS SOME SAVINGS THERE ON TOP OF THE SALES TAX. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUSHING OUT, IT'S REALLY A FUNCTION OF CAPACITY AS WELL. I THINK YOUR POINT ABOUT THE ONE-TIME FUNDS AND THE USE OF THE ONE-TIME FUNDS, WE'VE HAD CARE, TWO ROUNDS OF ARPA, AND THOSE HAVE DEFINITELY HELPED BRIDGE THE GAP DURING THE COVID ECONOMIC CYCLES THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH. I THINK IT IS CONCERN OF EVERYBODY'S TO MAKE SURE THAT LONG-TERM WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE MODEL THAT'S BALANCED BETWEEN OUR REVENUES AND OUR SP EXPENDITURES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH, AND I JUST WANTED TO REALLY SAY THAT IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SURPRISE IN FUTURE YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A SURPRISE. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THAT IN FUTURE YEARS IF THERE'S NOT ONE-TIME FUNDING THERE THAT WE COULD HAVE A REAL ISSUE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE NEEDS TO BE, WHICH MAY BE HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. >> I THINK, COUNCIL, TO REMIND YOU ALL AS WELL, KIND OF BUILDING ON WHAT COUNCILMAN GRADY WAS JUST MENTIONING, WE ARE GOING TO BE UNDERTAKING A FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST TO HELP MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE PREDICTABLE IN THE FUTURE. HOPEFULLY THAT PLAN WILL COME TO FRUITION HERE IN THE EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT ROAD MAP IS DESIGNED TO AVOID SURISES WITH BOTH OUR REVENUE AS AN EXPENDITURE AND ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR THAT WON'T BE PART OF THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD. >> MAYOR: COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I FEEL LIKE DEJAVU. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO HOLD, AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. I JUST WANT TSAY, WE ARE LIVING NOW. I BELIEVE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE PROBABLY HURTING BECAUSE OF INFLATION BECAUSE EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, IS GOING UP BEYOND WHAT ANYBODY COULD HAVE EVER PLANNED FOR. I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE POINT THAT I HAVE, AND I THINK OUR COUNCIL HAS CONFIDENCE IN OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR STAFF TO NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US THAT'S GOING TO BE DAMAGING TO THIS CITY. AS WE GO TO THE FUTURE, I'LL LISTEN TO IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD RESULT AS WE'VE ALREADY HAD. EVERYBODY WORKED HARD TO GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY. ALL WE CAN CONTROL IS OUR CITY. CITY TAXES, WHICH IS WHAT WILL BE THE 17%, 18%. I THINK THAT'S A BIG THING THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT O MUNICIPALITIES THAT CAN SAY THAT. THANK YOU. YES, COUNCILMAN GRADY, WE HEAR YOU. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS TODAY AS BEST WE CAN. THANKS. >> MAYOR: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> YES, I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IN ADDITION TO THE -- IN ADDITION TO THE FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY EXPLORE A 20 TO 30-YEAR MAINTENANCE FORECAST BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ON AN ONGOING BASIS FROM HERE ON OUT. I FEEL A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT IF WE LOWERED THAT NUMBER JUST FOR AVAILABILITY TO PROJECT THSE NUMBERS. I THINK WHEN WE GET TO 30 YEARS, WE'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR OUT THERE. I DO AGREE THAT RIGHT NOW WE PLAN ON A FIVE-YEAR CIP. WE DO KNOW THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. WHEN WE THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO -- WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE INFLATION, HOW MUCH WORK WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE I THINK AS I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL STAYING ON TOP OF MAINTENANCE IS IT A PRIORITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AS WELL. >> I'M COG NIZ ABBOT THAT WE SPENT E SPEND $20 A YEAR JUST ON INTEREST ON OUR DEBT. INCURRING DEBT FOR A SPECIFIC THING IS UNAVOIDABLE, BUT WHERE WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT AND OPERATIONALIZE OUR MAINTENANCE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAVE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE. >> MAYOR: THANKS, KAREN. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY SPEAKERS? >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >> MAYOR: I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I THINK I'VE HEARD MOST OF IT. THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM. IT WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ANY PUBLIC CITIZEN WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE CIP AND THE AD VALOREM TAX RATE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2. >> ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSIDATION OFN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-8-6 CODIFIED AS DIVISION 3 HISTORIC STRUCTURES OF ARTICLE 2 AD VALOREM TAXES OF CHAPTER 20 TAXATION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND REPLACING IT WITH NEW PROVISIONS THAT ESTABLISH AND PROVIDE PERIMETERS FOR THE HERITAGE TAX EXEMPTION PROGRAM FOR THE CITY AND PROVIDING A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PENALTY CLAUSE, PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AB EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M MIKE BELL, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MANAGER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU A FEW PROPOSED UPDATES TO OUR ORDINANCE APPROXIMATE THAT WE BELIEVE WILL HELP IRON OUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS WELL AS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS. BEFORE I GET INTO THOSE CHANGES, JUST IN THE WAY OF BACKGROUND, THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1984. IT HAS TWO MAIN PURPOSES. ONE IS TO INCENTIVIZE PROPERTIES TO GET DESIGNATED. THESE PROPERTY OWNERS DID GIVE UP SOME CONTROL OF THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THAT DESIGNATION PROCESS, AND THIS IS A GOOD TRADE-OFF FOR THAT. THE SECOND IS THAT IT PROVIDES A LOT OF THESE HOMES ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD, AND THOSE MAINTENANCE ISSUES CAN STACK UP PRETTY QUICKLY. THERE ARE THREE TAXING ENTITIES TO PARTICIPATE. PLANO, PLANO ISD, AND COLLIN COLLEGE. IF YOU ARE APPROVED FOR ONE, YOU ARE APPROVED FOR ALL. PARTICIPATION PROGRAM IS VOLUNTARILY. THIS IS A MISCONCEPTION THAT IF YOU GET DESIGNATED, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THESE REPAIRS EVERY YEAR. THAT'S NOT TRUE. ONLY IF YOU ARE SEEKING THE EXEMPTION. EVEN THEN ONLY CERTAIN REPAIRS THAT ARE SEEN AS NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY ARE REQUIRED. WE DO REQUIRE A APPLICATION, AND IF YOU MEET ALL YOUR REQUIREMENTS, YOU ARE RENEWED EVERY YEAR. WE MAKE IT REALLY SIMPLE. AGAIN, WE DO REQUIRE THAT ANNUAL EXTERIOR INSPECTION, AND THAT'S TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ADDRESSING THOSE MAY NOT NANSZ ITEMS. THEN, LASTLY, I'LL POINT OUT THIS IS VERY CRITICAL TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING. WE NOW HAVE A MARCH 1st DEADLINE FROM THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE OUR LIST OF APPROVALS EACH YEAR. THAT USED TO BE MAY 1st UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE BEEN CUT IN HALF THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TO PROCESS THE TAX EXEMPTIONS. THAT'S DRIVING SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A MINUTE. . REMINDER OF WHAT THE RATES ARE FOR HERITAGE LANDMARKS, PROPERTIES THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY SIGNIFICANT. YOU CAN HAVE 100% OR 50% OF THEIR IMPROVEMENT VALUE, DEPENDING ON USE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE WITH THIS UPDATE. IF YOU ARE PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU CAN GET 75% OR 38% DEPENDING ON YOUR USE. THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE WITH THIS UPDATE. WE DO THE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS EVERY YEAR, WHICH HAVE TWO MAIN PURPOSES FOR DETERMINING THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS YEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CE VIOLATIONS. YOU'RE CURRENT ON YOUR TAXES AND NOT SEEKING FOR DEMOLITION. YOU HAVE NECESSARY PERMITS. LASTLY, YOU HAVE DONE ALL YOUR REPAIRS FOR LAST YEAR. THE SECOND PART OF THAT INSPECTION IS WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND MAKE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS YOU NEED TO ADDRESS FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO RATE THOSE AS GOOD, FAIR, OR POOR. . THE GOOD ITEMS LISTED AS GOOD ARE MOSTLY COSMETIC, IF ANYTHING. THE FAIR ARE YOU DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS IT RIGHT NOW, BUT KEEP AN EYE ON IT. LASTLY, IS THE POOR, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THATEQUIRE THE IMMEDIATE REPAIR BECAUSE DAMAGE IS HAPPENING. ONLY THE POOR ARE THE ONES THAT YOU MUST MAKE BY THE END OF THE YEAR TO MAINTAIN ELIGIBILITY. GETTING INTO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING, THE FIRST IS WE HAVE VERY CHALLENGING TIME LIENS. WE'RE SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO DEADLINES. THAT'S THE DATE THAT WE MUST CERTIFY PROPERTIES AS ELIGIBLE. SECONDLY, WE HAVE A MARCH 1st DEADLINE TO THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THOS TIMELINES THEMSELVES ARE PRETTY TOUGH. WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF INTERNAL DEADLINES BASED ON THE ORDINANCE. IN PARTICULAR OF NOTE IS APPLICANTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL STAFF DETERMINATION IF THEY'RE INELIGIBLE, AND THAT DEADLINE IS 10 DAYS PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH HAPPENS TO FALL ON THE SAME DAY THAT OUR STAFF REPORTS AND BACKUP IS DUE TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO PROCESS THOSE APPEALS, AND IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. THE SECOND IS THAT WE HAVE REALLY LACK OF FLEXIBILITY TO MEET PROGRAM GOALS. OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL HERE IS REALLY TO SEE THATROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN. IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING CREDIT. UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT JANUARY 1 DEADLINE IS VERY FIRM. AGAIN, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBILITY, THAT JANUARY 1 DEADLINE BEING FIRM, THE ORT UNDERSTANDS IS STRUCTURED THAT WAY, BUT IN PRACTICE WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT APPEALS HAVE COMMONLY BEEN GRANTED FOR THREE THINGS. ONE, YOU DO THE WORK AT THE DEADLINE, BUT BEFORE YOUR APPEAL IS DUE. ESSENTIALLY, YOU GET THE LETTER IN THE MAIL SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BE -- YOU'VE BEEN DENIED, AND THEN GET YOUR ATTENTION, AND THEY GO OUT AND MAKE THE REPAIRS AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS WHERE, THEY OFTENTIMES WILL GET THAT. THE SECOND IS THAT SOME BUT NOT ALL THE REPAIRS ARE COMPLETED, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE 3 OF 5 OR 4 OF 5 OR MAYBE EVEN THE BIG ONES, BUT THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT YOU CAN GET. IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. LASTLY, IT'S WORK DONE WITHOUT A CA OR OTHER APPROVAL, BUT IN CONFORMANCE WITH ADOPTED STANDARDS. SOMEONE DID A FENCE OR A DECK OR SOMETHING. THEY DIDN'T GET HERITAGE APPROVAL BUT THEY BUILT IT ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS, AND IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT IT WOULD GET APPROVED. TO ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES, WE HAVE THREE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS PROPOISED. THE FIRST IS THAT WE PROVIDE -- WE WOULD REVISE THE PROCEDURES TO PUT THE HERITAGE COMMISSION BACK INTO THE APPEALS PROCESS, AND AT THE SAME TIME ADD MORE FLEXIBLE CRITERIA. THIS IS TAKING IT BACK TO SIMILAR TO HOW IT WAS PRIOR TO OUR UPDATES IN 2019 IN WHICH CASE THE HERITAGE COMMISSION WAS CONSIDERING APPEALS. WE THINK THAT WORKED VERY WELL IN THE TIME BETWEEN 2013 AND 2018. WE HAD 25 PROPERTIES DENIED. NONE OF THEM ACTUALLY MADE IT TO COUNCIL ON APPEALS. WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHANGE. SECONDLY, WE'RE INTRODUCING A ONE-TIME WAIVER FOR ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. NOVA SCOTIA IN THIS CASE YOU CAN GET A 50% REDUCTION. THE COMMISSION HAS ONE MORE OPTION TO GIVE PARTIAL CREDIT. EN, STLY, WITH THAT ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO COMBINE OUR EXTENSIONS AND OUR APPEALS PROCESS INTO ONE AND JUST APPROVE THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY AND GIVE OWNERS A LITTLE MORE TIME TO REQUEST THOSE. SAY YOU'RE CITED FOR A WINDOW, BUT YOU CAN ASK TO MAKE THE WINDOW REPAIRS AS PART OF THAT EXPANSION AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL TIME. THE FOURTH AND ONE OF THE NEW CRITERIA IS THAT GRANTING THE APPEAL EXTENSION IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PRESERVING AND MAINTAINING THE SITE. THAT'S GETTING A LOT MORE DISCRETION TO THE HERITAGE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHENHAT' NEEDED. THEN, AGAIN, THE WAIVERS. WE'RE ADDING THAT ONE-TIME WAIVER FROM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GET THAT HALF EXEMPTION. IN THE END THAT GIVES THE COMMISSION A FEW MORE TOOLS. THEY CAN GRANT AN APPEAL OR AN EXTENSION, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND BECOME APPROVED AT FULL EXEMPTION OR, AGAIN, THE WAIVER IS FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AT HALF EXEMPTION. LASTLY, THEY CAN DENY THE APPEAL OR THE EXTENSI IN WHICH CASE IT'S DENIED, BUT EVEN THAT'S NOT REALLY COMPLETELY FAIR TO SAY BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL IS STILL THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN GRANTING THE ORDINANCE. IT COMES TO COUNCIL TO GET APPROVED AND SO IT'S MOVING FROM A FORMALIZED PROCESS INTO SOMEWHAT OF AN INFORMAL PROCESS WHERE, AS YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN COME AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM OF THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA, AND IF THEY CAN MAKE THE CASE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE HERITAGE COMMISSION IS THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE RE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR APPEALS IN THE PACKET AND ALSO GAIN THE BENEFIT OF A HERITAGE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OR IF SOMEBODY JUST DECIDES TO SKIP THE HERITAGE COMMISSION AND COME ASTRAIGHT TO COUNCIL TO SPEAK, I THINK THAT SAYS SOMETHING IN AND OF ITSELF. WRAPPING UP, PUBLIC FEEDBACK. WE DID SIGNIFICANT OUTREACH FOR THIS. WE HAVE A STRIKE-THROUGH/UNDERLINE VERSION OF THIS SO PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT WAS CHANGING. IT WAS ONLINE. WE SENT LETTERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, NOT JUST THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE. INVITING THEM TO LOOK AT THE DRAFT ONLINE AND ALSO ATTEND ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. WE HD A ZOOM MEETING ON JULY 11th. WE HAD ABOUT 19 PEOPLE ATTENDING THAT MEETING, WHICH WAS BETTER THAN WE USUALLY GET, SO WE WERE PLEASED WITH THAT. OF THOSE NO ONE RAISED ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CHANGE. WE ALSO RECEIVED CALLS FROM A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES EVEN WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE COUNCIL APPEAL. THEN, LASTLY, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE HERITAGE COMMISSION LAST MONTH WHERE WE DID HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT REMOVING THAT APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL. THE HERITAGE COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THOSE CONCERNS, BUT FELT THE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND THE BENEFITS GAINED FROM ADDING THE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND THE FACT THAT THERE STILL IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO SOMEONE CAN STILL GO TO COUNCIL AND MAKE THEIR CASE. THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE EXTREME CASES, AND THEY ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS COMPLICATED MATTER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS AND THE HERITAGE COMMISSION'S. SAW IN ONE OF THE SLIDES SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE RECEIVING INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPEALS IN OUR PACKETS. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT KOOIF INFORMATION WOULD BE PRESENTED UNDER THE NEW RENEWED SYSTEM? >> SURE. WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE IS WITH THAT ORDINANCE THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE AN NATURAL EXEMPTIONS, WE WOULD GIVE YOU ANY ACTIONS THAT THEY TOOK ON ANY APPEALS, AND WE'LL INCLUDE THAT WITH YOUR BACKUP WITH ANY FORUMS AND SURVEYS SO YOU WOULD BE PREPARED IF ANYBODY SHOWED UP. >> SO WE WOULD HAVE THE DETAILS REGARDING THE APPEALS AND THE ONES THAT WERE DENIED AS WELL, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> AND LAST QUESTION PURSUANT TO THAT, IF SOMEBODY IS DENIED BY THE HERITAGE COMMISSION, WILL THEY BE GIVEN THE INFO THAT THEY CAN STILL COME AND SPEAK TO COUNCIL WHEN THIS IS APPROVED? >> OH, YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: HOLD ON. >> PROMOTE TO PANELIST. THERE WE GO. MS. GARCÍA. >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. I AM JOINING, AND I AM THE PERSON WHO SPOKE AT THE HERITAGE COMMISSION. IT DOES SEEM LIKE MY CONCERN HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT ADDRESSED, BUT I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE EDITED SOMEWHAT BECAUSE THE WAY IT READS RIGHT NOW, IT READS LIKE THE APPEAL ENDS AT THE HERITAGE COMMISSION AND IT ESN'STILL COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU ARE THE FINAL DECISION-MAKING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE PUBLICALLY ELECTED MAKE THAT FINAL APPEALS DETERMINATION, WHICH HOPEFULLY IS NEVER A SITUATION BECAUSE THE NEW PROPOSITIONS ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE FLEXIBLE AND I DO THINK THEY REALLY HAVE THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE MORE AT HEART THAN MAYBE THE PREVIOUS RENDITIONS. MY FAMILY OWNS THE DAVIS HOUSE, WHICH IS THE HISTORIC HOUSE ON 18th STREET. WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS QUITE DILAPIDATED, AND WE PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO BRING IT TO WHERE IT IS. IN TRUTH, IT'S NOT QUITE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I WOULD LIKE TO REPAINT IT, BUT IN TRUTH, THIS FALL I CAN'T DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT NEXT FALL, WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF THESE PROVISIONS APPLY DIRECTLY TO ME BECAUSE I AM GOING TO BE THE PERSON WHO IS APPLYING TO MAYBE NOT FIX ALL THE TRIM THIS YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE MONEY BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO STRIP IT AND PAINT IT ALL IN FULL. THAT IS WHY I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE, IF IT'S CHANGED, NEEDS TO STILL HAVE THE LANGUAGE WHERE IF IT IS DENIED BY THE STAFF OF THE CITY WHO ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND THEN ALSO THE HERITAGE BOARD, THAT APPLICANTS STILL HAVE THAT RIGHT AS DETAILED BY THE ORDINANCE TO BRING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT JUST AS A RANDOM PERSON COMPLAINING IN THE BEGINNING OR SINGING SOME SONG ABOUT FAUCI, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE GROUP AS APPEALED. I HAVE APPEALED BEFORE, UNFORTUNATELY, AND I WAS GRANTED THAT APPEAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS SO VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THAT RIGHT FOR APPLICANTS. THE HERITAGE BOARD I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANY OF THEM. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH ANY OF THEM. I THINK THEY'RE ALL GREAT PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT ELECTED. THEY'RE APPOINTED BY YOU ALL, AND HOW THAT WORKS I'M NOT QUITE SURE. IT IS A TWO-YEAR SERVICE THAT I SEE ONLINE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT -- AND I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HEAVEN FORBID SOMEBODY -- THIS WOULDN'T EVEN APPLY TO ME BECAUSE I USE MINE AS COMMERCIAL, BUT WHAT IF SOMEBODY HAD AN ANNOYING DOG AND THEN THE PERSON DIDN'T WANT TO -- THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMER. >> I THINK MS. GARCÍA BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT AS FAR AS SOMEONE THAT'S COMING AND WANTS TO APPEAL AND THEY ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES OR HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL ON THE AGENDA THAT I DON'KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS NOW, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER GIVING PEOPLE THAT DO WANT TO APPEAL AND WANT TO COME AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THAT IS ALL. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS OF OUR PROCESS ALWAYS ALLOWS CITIZENS, BUSINESSES TO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PRESENT AHEAD OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WELL. I THINK AS WE DISCUSS MOVING FORWARD, HOW WE ALLOW THOSE CITIZENS TO ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE ASPECT OF THREE MINUTES ON AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM SEEMS LIKE IT'S A CONDENSED TIME FRAME, BUT I WOULD ALSO REITERATE THAT YOU'VE HAD A STAFF REVIEW, YOU'VE HAD A COMMISSION REVIEW. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, SO THE RECORD SHOULD BE THERE PRETTY WELL, BUT I THINK THAT AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THOSE ITEMS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE MAYOR HAS THE DISCRETION TEXTEND TIME ON THOSE SORTS OF ITEMSAND HE COULD EXTEND SOME OF THAT TIME IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY HAS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. AGAIN. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. PLEASE VOTE. >> RICK GRADY VOTES YES. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, RICK. MOTION PASSES 8-0. MEING IS ADJOURNED.. [MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:45 P.M.