[0:00] **Thomas J. Spooner:** On the meeting to order regular planning commission meeting Monday December 2 item 1 on our agenda our minutes from the last time we had a public hearing and I just noticed we don't have the minutes in the back Heather I have not had that before can we not approve the minutes and skip that and then approve to next time the world doesn't end okay yeah we don't have the minutes so we're not going to approve the minutes we'll just do it next time we'll get these minutes next Make sure all right public hearing there is one this evening. [0:35] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** It's an ordinance change a zoning map amendment or a Bot on willow Harry Thank You mr. Chair. Yes, so we have a request by Louise here or higher to rezone a property on seven or at 739 Willow Street and It's a zoning map amendment. The property is located here along Willow Street. So I've outlined kind of where Lindale is, Highway 60. Secretary of Property is just a little bit south of where Division and Highway 60 meet along Willow. It's in a, what I would argue, a mostly residential neighborhood. [1:15] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** The interesting thing about this particular property is that it was built in the 40s. I think it was like a fur trader shop of some sort back in the 40s. And then about two years later when the city released its first zoning map, the zoning map called this property R1 or R2. it's always been commercial uh but it's always been residential like it's commercial and used by residential and zoning so the request by the applicant is to change it from r3 medium density residential to c1 neighborhood commercial here's just uh you know just how much the property would be changing in this area so it would be c1 sort of surrounded by r3 however um our comprehensive plan does Actually account for this, you know when we start thinking about neighborhood commercial as being a part of a neighborhood providing neighborhood level Uses and services for those neighbors so conference but acknowledges this it supports this idea Generally the existing commercial use is already pretty well integrated into the neighborhood It's a smaller building even with C1, even if they were to redevelop it, there's a very low chance of any particular use that could come into that property being incompatible with the adjacent neighbors or other adjacent uses. And so generally staff is seeing this as a request to be supported. We do feel like it meets all the zoning map amendments requirements. And so we are recommending that you forward this ordinance to the city council recommending in favor. [2:48] **Thomas J. Spooner:** With all the draft finding thank you Harry. I just realized this team is so how we do public hearings here You have no one in the audience argument if there wasn't once presentations done We ask any clarifying questions and people ask or it's just questions once we have questions answered We then go out and open up the ones that hold the public hearing people will come up one at a time name Represent whatever public hearings done then we bring it back passion people talk about stuff eventually something Something we didn't vote on set motion and then it goes off to the city council or an advisory board of the city council That said there are no members of the public. So there is no public hearing. Are there any clarifying questions or [3:35] **Tina Wilson:** Just have one just because I'm new who sits on the development review. We have city [4:08] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** Yeah, so the development review committee is made up of mostly city staff. It says city administrator is a part of it parks EDA Fire. Fire, police, planning, engineering, so a lot of different parts of city functions. [4:08] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Anything else? Good. Any other questions? Again, officially I acknowledge there's no one in the room other than us, so there are no inputs from the public. So we have open public hearing, we have closed public hearing. Up here for discussion... [4:54] **Bart Jackson:** Mr. Chairman to move a discussion along I'm gonna move in favor of rezoning this to a neighborhood commercial see [4:54] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Got a motion I've got a second by Bart we can discuss the motion now Thoughts I just want to have something so Heather's got something not zoning I'm never a fan of spot zoning, but if there is a time it's a one in a residential district for that If this were a seat to or anything or invasive and that'd be a different one in a residential plus this thing's been always been a commercial get a motion we've got a second is there any other question tina i think the only comment we do look at another thing it is higher applicant louise okay got a motion we got a second oh all those in favor say aye aye those no that carries that goes on the city council teams back up to the agenda requests to be we have a new planner should we just do the introductions now here are you [6:34] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** Yes we do Mr. Chair. So we do have a new planner on board. Leslie Leslie do you want to introduce. [6:34] **Leslie [Planner]:** Background big fan of West Florida. How long were you there. After after a while. [6:34] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** We'll do our introductions too. [7:20] **Tina Wilson:** Excellent. You know you want to go first. My name is Tina Wilson early new resident. [7:20] **Bart Jackson:** Bart Jackson probably a youngster for 16 years. The rest of them insurance agent for American. [7:56] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Under the long form. I haven't done that in a while. Back at but I joined Planning Commission in 1991 served and there was a vacancy on City Council in nineteen Well became deputy mayor ran for mayor because the incumbent didn't want to run for mayor Mayor for 12 years that all along. I just go back to Planning Commission and 2008 I chose not to run for a fourth term longest serving mayor in fair but untrue My job is I work for Senator Klobuchar. I am her disaster guy, local government, broadband, and agriculture. And I did go right back to planting a farm around here since '09. I'm also on-- [8:43] **Steve White:** So Tom, you're not-- [8:43] **Thomas J. Spooner:** There's been a run of late. I'm the last mayor without, yes, without one. Go back to me to not have one. [8:43] **Steve White:** Wait, it was, oh, sorry. [8:43] **Ed Miglio:** Ed Miglio, I'm also a newbie. Been in Faribault for three years, transplanted here because my daughter and family were here in Faribault, so that's why I'm here. I've been in the commission about a year now, close to a year. I'm retired, I've worked in the printing business, keep myself really busy. I'm also on-- [9:29] **Steve White:** Steve White, I've been on the planning commission's, Chuck actually appointed me to, got me interested in it. 20 years? [9:29] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Yeah, 28 years. [9:29] **Steve White:** So I've been on here a while. I'm a lifelong resident, I'm a retired electrician. You say electrician. Most of my career was in industrial. [9:59] **Thomas J. Spooner:** That's us. Almost 10 years. The one that we're missing tonight, what? Oh, we're missing Mike. Mike's an architect, been on the commission for two now. And then Sam came in earlier this year. She's at Living in the Home. So we've kind of got a dichotomy of Steve and I that have been around forever, and then Bart's got about five. And then it goes down to pretty inexperienced. So that's us. Welcome aboard. [10:28] **Harry [Planning Staff]:** Yeah, because you've been short-handed for a while since Peter left in like August. [10:28] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Excellent. Yeah. So staff and backup upstairs. Are there requests to be heard, items for discussion, or routine business? You got anything? Board and commission update report. You got anything? Order commission met. Order commission meets annually. It's arduous. 20-minute meeting, we didn't do anything. Got together. We approved a letter. We approved the letter to the judge that said we're not doing anything crazy. It's on the Charter Commission. [11:01] **Ed Miglio:** I have a question for you. I was reading in the St. Paul paper that the city of St. Paul's Charter Commission was looking at, I'm not sure where the farewells position is, with regards to having a fee instead of a criminal offense, if you, let's say, choosing not to mow your grass or... violations because all this other stuff was being tied up in the courts forever and they're trying to get people to encourage them to inform [11:47] **Thomas J. Spooner:** yeah administrative fees okay I think we're done so that's board and commission update we've done everything one through seven item eight motion to adjourn [11:47] **Bart Jackson:** I make a motion [11:47] **Thomas J. Spooner:** Arts got the motion it's got the second other than favor say aye