City of Faribault Live Stream - Faribault City Council Meeting 2025-05-13

City of Faribault Live Stream - Faribault City Council Meeting 2025-05-13

This transcript has been processed to identify speakers based on the roles, context, and official names provided. **[0:04] Mayor Spooner:** We will call the Tuesday, May 13, 2025, Faribault City Council meeting to order. Our first item is roll call. Council member Barnes (here), Doumbouya (here), Ross (here), Rowan (here), Van Sluis (here), Thiele. **[0:20] Mayor Spooner:** Mayor Spooner here. And pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. **[0:42] Mayor Spooner:** All right. Next, we have approval of the agenda. **Council Member Doumbouya:** Mayor Spooner, yes. I make a motion to approve. **Council Member Van Sluis:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** I have a motion to approve by Doumbouya, second by Van Sluis. All those in favor say [Aye]. Motion [passes]. Next is our presentation: Poppy Week proclamation. **[1:22] Mayor Spooner:** I have an air of... the office of the mayor of the city of Faribault proclamation. Whereas the United States of America was founded upon the premises that all citizens should enjoy the blessings of freedom and liberty. Whereas the freedom and liberty that Americans enjoy longed for by the people around the world and directed as a result of petty sacrifices made by American veterans whereas Minnesotans have made the ultimate sacrifice defense of this freedom. **[2:05] Mayor Spooner:** Whereas it's fitting and proper that we recognize the courageous efforts of veterans who have sacrificed and secure this freedom and liberty for all Americans. Whereas American Legion Auxiliary, Veteran of Foreign Wars, Veteran of Foreign Wars auxiliary poppy as a commemorative symbol. Whereas each year stable veterans assemble and distribute memorial poppies creating a tangible tribute to the honor of our nation's fallen heroes benefit the living veterans and their families. Now therefore I, Thomas J. Spooner, mayor, city of Faribault, do hereby proclaim the week of May 19th as Poppy Week. Thank you. **[3:07] Poppy Representative:** [Guest Speaker]: ...politicians older. But uh this year was a little different for the American Legion Auxiliary. Usually the veterans make the poppies, but this year they're able to make the poppies. So the auxiliary poppies. So that was to take on be out and about. Uh we'll be... add 23 to zero prevention and 23... three port believe it printing for dogs in Northfield support them... support the Minnesota paralyzed veterans to be able to go to see that facility pool there that the bottom of the pool moves so that the bedroom tables come down to from the ceiling. They out and support Poppy fundraiser because Faribault has always been very good to us. **[5:25] Mayor Spooner:** All right. Our next item is approval of the minutes of April 22nd. **Council Member Rowan:** Mayor Spooner. Yes. Make a motion to approve minutes for the April 22nd, 2025, city council meeting. **Council Member Doumbouya:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** I have a motion by Rowan, second by Doumbouya. All those in favor signify by saying Aye. (Council: Aye). All opposed. Motion passes. **[5:49] Mayor Spooner:** Request to be heard. We have none on that. Anything? Okay. Next item, consent agenda items. We have items A through P. Anybody like anything pulled? **Council Member Van Sluis:** I'd like to make a motion to approve consent agenda items 6A through 6P. **Council Member Ross:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** Motion by Van Sluis, a second by Ross to approve 6A through 6P. All those in favor signify by saying Aye. (Council: Aye). All opposed. **[6:25] Mayor Spooner:** Next item is public hearing. We have one public hearing tonight. Ordinance 2025-2 annexing certain land from Wells Township into the city. Harry Davis will give us the presentation. **Harry Davis (City Planner):** Thank you, Mayor. Um, council, please just give me one second just to set up. **[7:24] Harry Davis:** Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. Uh, so the item in front of me today is an ordinance to annex land within Wells Township into city limits. Uh, the applicant is Kathy Kao on behalf of the Willie family and annexation is just north of the industrial park. Here's kind of just a Google map image of where it is. You can see the red dashed outline of the National Park. You can kind of see where Deery Point North is. This would be just north of that location. And here's the entire property. Uh it's right next to uh you can see this purple line that outlines the current city limits. So um the area in question is 67.5 acres. It's connected on two sides to city limits. **[8:15] Harry Davis:** The comprehensive plan does identify this location as commercial industrial mix. It is adjacent to the industrial park. So we really do anticipate more development located at this location. It is also located near the planned exit for the future interchange between 150th and I-35. Property will be zoned TUD as it comes into the city as it's required within our ordinance. Uh the applicants have not proposed a different zoning district to bring this in. Um they are waiting until they have a specific developer targeted in order to focus on one particular zoning district. We did send letters by certified and regular mail to all the adjoining property owners. Even those across I-35 um and road rights-of-way as well as Wells Township. We haven't received a whole lot more than just questions wanting to know what's going on. So, we are recommending that city council approve its first reading of ordinance. Happy to take any questions. **[9:24] Mayor Spooner:** Questions for staff? **Council Member Van Sluis:** Can you put that map back up? **Harry Davis:** Sure. This one or the other one? **Council Member Van Sluis:** That one's fine. **[9:43] Mayor Spooner:** This time I would entertain a motion to go in [to Public Hearing]. **Council Member Doumbouya:** So moved. **Council Member Ross:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** Second by Ross. All opposed. Anybody wishing to speak on this matter, please come up to the podium. State your name and address for the record. **[10:13] Mayor Spooner:** Shocked. We usually have no one here. We seeing no one jumping forward. I will entertain a motion to close the public hearing. **Council Member Doumbouya:** So move. **Council Member Rowan:** Second. **[10:28] Mayor Spooner:** I have a motion by Doumbouya and a second by Rowan to close the public hearing. All those in favor? (Council: Aye). All opposed. We are out of open session. Excuse me. All right. At this point... **Council Member Ross:** Mayor Spooner, yes. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 2025-2. **[10:52] Council Member Barnes:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** I have a motion to approve ordinance 2025-2 annexing certain land from Wells Township into the city by Ross. Second by Barnes. This is an ordinance and we'll need a roll call. **[11:08] Heather Slechta (City Clerk):** Council member Barnes? (Aye). Ross? (Hi). Rowan? (Hi). Doumbouya? (Hi). Van Sluis? (Hi). Mayor Spooner? (Hi). Motion passes. **[11:21] Mayor Spooner:** All right. We're on to the next item. Items for discussion. Our first one is ordinance 2025-3 approve zoning text amendments to match the land use in shoreland with the DNR model ordinance. Once again, Harry Davis. **Harry Davis:** Thank you, mayor. So, yeah, the ordinance in front of you is to amend our zoning ordinance in order to match what the DNR has in their model ordinance for land uses within shoreland areas. Um, it's the city that's initiating this uh zoning ordinance amendment. What we have realized is that there are a lot of situations that staff has run into over the years where we have a applicant coming forward whether they're a property owner or a business and we have to look in three or four different locations in order to determine whether a use is allowed within shoreland or not. **[12:18] Harry Davis:** Sometimes we're looking at the zoning ordinance. We're looking at shoreland um which is in a different column right next to it and then we're also looking elsewhere in the code to determine that. And sometimes we find ourselves in situations where none of those are really matching up. One might be permitted in one location, one might be conditional in the other and we might have another location that says it's not permitted at all. So, we've run into a lot of really tough conversations with property owners, applicants, and so looking at what the model DNR ordinance has, it's a lot simplified, and it actually in a lot of cases improves some accessibility for those businesses and property owners. **[13:06] Harry Davis:** Um, so we're removing a lot of shoreland ordinances or ordinance references within the individual zoning districts, which is kind of part of the problem. And we're instead focusing it more within the shoreland section with all the other special districts. And with that, what we're hoping to do is really just look in two locations: Is it permitted, conditional, or not allowed at all within the underlying zoning district? And is it permitted, conditional, or not allowed at all? Looking in three places we're not looking for. Makes a lot easier for staff to manage, a lot easier to follow along and understand. **[13:51] Harry Davis:** So, you know, I do have uh both of the tables for land uses for lake classifications as well as for river classifications. I'm happy to go into those more if you'd like me to. Uh but generally when we're looking at a zoning text amendment like this, it meets a lot of our comprehensive plan goals about balancing between what I would argue, you know, city sort of public interests in making sure that our waterways are protected and private property interests where for a lot of those people sometimes it's existing development and they just want to be able to continue doing what they're doing there whether it's living, operating a business or what have you. Good opportunity for us to kind of further some the comprehensive plan goals for zoning criteria. **[14:36] Harry Davis:** It does meet a lot of our criteria and so we've provided some findings in the ordinance that follow that. Uh the DNR has issued a conditional approval letter. They're very happy with the changes that we've made. They were a little confused as to why we adopted it the way that we did. I'm sure that there's a whole reasoning behind that, but this is way more simplified for them to understand and we hope for a lot of other people. So in summary, we feel like this is meeting a lot of the criteria and we've provided findings supporting the ordinance amendment. So we're recommending that you approve the first reading. **[14:52] Mayor Spooner:** Questions for Mr. Davis? I guess I just have one and I think you answered. Is this going to make it simpler so everybody totally understands it? **[15:09] Harry Davis:** Yeah, it's gonna make it a lot simpler for me, and hopefully for everyone else. **Mayor Spooner:** Okay, thank you. All right, at this time... **Council Member Ross:** Mayor Spooner. Uh, I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 2025-3. **[15:33] Council Member Rowan:** I'll second. **Mayor Spooner:** I have a motion to approve ordinance 2025-3 by Ross, seconded by Rowan. Roll call. **Heather Slechta:** Council member Barnes? (Hi). Ross? (Hi). Rowan? (Hi). Doumbouya? (Hi). Van Sluis? (Hi). Mayor Spooner? (Hi). **Mayor Spooner:** Ordinance passes. Item B, resolution 2025-122, declare environmental assessment worksheet complete for Archer Data Centers. Once again, Mr. Davis. **[16:11] Harry Davis:** Thank you, mayor. So, uh, this is a resolution looking at a uh upcoming development within Faribault. Uh they have to go through a series of of other approvals in order to bring this forward. The first of which is an environmental assessment worksheet, otherwise known as an EAW. It's from Archer Data Centers prepared by their consultant Kimley-Horn. Um, and the proposal tonight is just to release the EAW for public comment and review. We're not really going to get into or at least I'm not going to get into a whole lot of of the specifics with it. I'm more than happy to if you'd like, but this is really just releasing it to the public for public comment. **[16:51] Harry Davis:** Um, the project's location is actually very close to one of the others that we reviewed tonight. Uh just on the other side of Acorn Trail just north of the industrial park. It's currently within city limits and it's zoned uh actually property you can see here kind of by the color or the cyan outline around the property. Um so I'll just go back to the maps. So this is uh looking just north of the industrial park. Uh right next to it uh like I said it's it's zoned I-2. The property uh is viewed here is outlined in cyan and then um the request like I'd mentioned before there is a approval that they have to go through first some sort of additional requirement and it's because it's enough square footage to trigger the requirement from the Minnesota Environmental Quality Board about whether or not something has to go through additional environmental review. **[18:01] Harry Davis:** Um just to get into a little bit of the background for it. So as soon as a project that is light industrial or warehousing and staff has determined that this is probably closest to that as a data center as soon as you get to 450,000 square feet or more um and the applicant is proposing up to 500,000 square feet is when environmental review first part of that uh which it triggers is a mandatory EAW assessment worksheet. Uh the purpose of that is to determine whether an environmental impact statement is needed. Uh the City of Faribault is the responsible government unit or the RGU for something like this. Uh in this case, the applicant has prepared the EAW. Um staff has reviewed it multiple times with them. We've sent it out to our partners at Rice County for a few additional questions or few additional comments. Um and they've been able to work through a lot of those comments with us. And so this draft EAW, we feel like it's appropriate for public comment. Um and like I said before, this is just determining that it's complete and ready to review. **[19:15] Harry Davis:** Council will have time before the final documents to ask a whole lot of other additional questions. Um, and we will have both the applicant as well as our consultant team that's reviewing the EAW available to answer any of the really specifics. Um, the overall timeline for this project, uh, you know, we're looking at probably at the end of this month, uh, assuming that council does release this for public comment, uh, the environmental commission will review project as it stipulated founding of their commission. Uh in June, the developer is going to incorporate the additional comments that come out of the 30-day period. Planning commission will review it and then city council will review and then we anticipate you know might be end of June might be early July uh submitting it to the environmental board going through the additional development entitlements that the preliminary and final plat site plan. So we are recommending that city council approve resolution. **[20:28] Mayor Spooner:** Okay, any questions for staff? **Council Member Van Sluis:** Thank you, Mayor Spooner. Um, so if I understand correctly, the planning commission is going to review this after we approve this tonight? **[20:39] Harry Davis:** Sure. So, the draft EAW that's provided in the resolution. So, that all that's happening right now is that that is going out to the public. So, that's all you're approving right now is just releasing it to the public. **Council Member Van Sluis:** Just the... Yeah. **Harry Davis:** So, okay. What happens after that is that there's the 30-day public comment period. After that, the applicant is going to go back and revise the EAW based on those comments then it'll be sent back to the city. City staff will have a moment to review it, make any additional comments, then go through planning commission and then city council. So, you're not approving the project yet. **Council Member Van Sluis:** I understand now. I just wanted to make sure that we weren't cutting the commission out. Thank you. **Council Member Rowan:** So, this hasn't triggered an environmental impact statement yet, but it could? **[21:48] Harry Davis:** It could. The likelihood of that right now is low based off of what we've seen. Um it just barely hits that threshold by 50,000 going through an EAW. Uh to go through EIS would be 650,000 square feet. I'd have to look that up for you. But um part of the EAW is also determining whether or not... so this is just the first step and staff doesn't see anything at this point. **[22:33] Council Member Van Sluis:** Mayor Spooner. Yes. I make a motion to approve resolution 2025-122. **Council Member Ross:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** Have a motion by Van Sluis, a second by Ross to approve resolution 2025. [All those in favor say] Aye. (Council: Aye). All oppose. Motion pass. Next item is resolution 2025-120 approving plans and specifications to establish a bid date for the municipal airport airfield pavement rehabilitation project. Director Travis Block. **[23:24] Travis Block (Public Works Director):** You're good. Yeah, we can see it. You can see your PC. Your screen. That's one. That monitor is being different from everything else. I can see your computer screen, but I can't see your presentation. Should be able to drag your presentation. I'm only seeing I only have one screen. If you just click hold on the top of that and start moving your presentation, does it start to... back for the general public. This is not there. How's it? There we go. There we go. Don't touch anything. Yeah. I have no idea what I actually have to touch something because there's not going out to video. I don't know what's going on because it should be at video because it wasn't clicked. Alice, I think we're good up here. You're good up there? Yeah. **[25:37] Travis Block:** Thank you, Mayor Spooner, members of the council. Uh resolution 2025-120 is seeking approval of the plans and specifications and establishing the bid date for the airport airfield pavement rehabilitation project. Uh the scope of the project area you can see this map on this part of the presentation is just shows the portion of the airfield that the work will be done. So mainly the apron area in front of the fixed base operator building and our the maintenance hanger, taxiway to the west that extends out towards the runway and then the taxiway that also goes back towards uh some private hangers. This area was last... the taxiway was last worked on in 2004. Now you can see this picture here just shows the the taxiway some of the deficiencies that we're looking to address: the cracking of this aged pavement. It's getting to such an age that uh this is the time now to take care of this, to do maintenance on this to extend this life cycle well into the future. **[27:09] Travis Block:** This screenshot here shows the apron area with similar pavement conditions. A lot of cracking is taking place and some alligator type pattern of the pavement. Last work in this area was done in 2010. And this is another shot from the other direction of the apron. Uh just showing again more of that pavement condition. Then one final shot of kind of backing up by the fuel farm there where our fuel system is and just showing kind of a whole scope of where the work is going to be done. This image here show is from the plans that show kind of the primary work area. You can see there's gray and yellow hatched areas in this. Those are areas that have been determined ineligible for the federal funding portion of this project due to the proximity their location to buildings and or uh deemed being unusable by aircraft meaning they're too close. Uh so an aircraft could not pull in there. Uh so they're therefore the the feds are not willing to contribute to the funding of that. **[28:15] Travis Block:** So that will increase the sponsor fund portion of that project but is critical to do this all in one project so we have a nice seamless project that will last well into the future. So just kind of a summary: taxi lane E, the one extending kind of back up towards the hangers there, that's going to receive a full depth removal and some installation of storm sewer and subdrain and then pavement with an intent to improve those conditions for a longer period of time get take care of that water under there. Uh the airport generally is a very wet environment on that piece of property. So this is going to help alleviate some of those things in the future. Taxi lane B is going to have some patch and crack filling in a mill and overlay. That's the portion of the and a little bit of storm sewer. That's the one that goes kind of towards the runway. And then the apron, we're going to take out the tie downs, do some patching, crack filling. That's going to receive just a mill and overlay as well with a little bit of storm sewer insulation and then reinstall the tie downs. **[29:29] Travis Block:** Funding for the project: there's a uh three kind of three different pots of money that's going to be used for this. Uh federal funding being the significant portion of it, a little over 1.1 million. Um state funding of 31,185. And then the airport fund right now approximately of 179,65. We're looking at a total construction estimate cost of just over 1.1 million. Originally there was 32,000 budgeted for the airport portion on our typical participation ratio that happens with the project but as I said, due to those areas not being eligible that increases our contribution. Um but there are currently... a budget amendment will be necessary for that but there are currently a couple things in 2025 that will help offset that. One was the mower purchase was a much reduced scope of a piece of equipment. So, we're able to pick up about oh, it was total about $67,000 of it. We'll be able to offset with that and then a crack sealing project that we're likely going to forego just because this project is going to take care of a lot of those deficiencies. **[30:40] Travis Block:** This just kind of shows a little bit of how we get to that federal funding and the state funding match. So the entitlement funds that you see there on the left of that column, $150,000 a year, those are funds that we receive from the federal government that we're allowed to accumulate for four years and then we can use those on a project. So we're in our fourth year. So we need to take advantage of using those or would be required to basically lose those and transfer those to some other facility. Uh on the right the bipartisan infrastructure law, the BILL funds there. You can see that that is kind of a something that we've not had in the past that we've been accumulating those as well. And this is just a great opportunity to utilize those funds and essentially this project would not be able to be the scope that it is without that $585,000 of additional federal funding. Then also showing just the state portion and then what would be our local match. **[32:07] Travis Block:** This graphic is just showing kind of overall the costs we have broke down by things such as the engineering design, the preliminary design, the geotechnical, the bidding... some of those costs we've already experienced. And then some of the other ones like construction admin and material testing etc. And then the construction costs are based on an estimate at this time. We're hoping for favorable bids as we've seen with some of our other street projects. So with the project schedule, we're at tonight with approving the plans and specification. We're looking to receive bids on June 4th, award a contract on June 10th, and then begin construction August 18th with a final completion in October. And I would just also like to add that all this is also contingent upon getting the grant. My 14 years of this, we've not not gotten a grant, but these are all contingent upon that. So with that I recommend approving resolution 2025-120. **[33:16] Mayor Spooner:** Any questions for director? **Council Member Doumbouya:** Thank you Mayor Spooner. So um the local is the city, correct? So just to simplify it, the local should be around 30,000, but because there's some additional work that we need to get done, it's going to cost about another 170 on top of that? **[33:39] Travis Block:** It's going to be about 179 total, about an additional 140 pro approximately of the work from the unfunded areas. **Council Member Doumbouya:** Well, doesn't it say the total estimated cost for local funds is 200,000? **Travis Block:** That was a kind of a high side padded estimate on our part. After I prepared the memo I was looking into it further with the consulting engineer and right now that we're figuring is 179 but we could probably just be comfortable looking with the 200. **Council Member Doumbouya:** Are you confident that all the extra work that we're paying full for is necessary and needed? **Travis Block:** Correct. Uh without that, we would... there is an option to not do it and then leave that portion of the airfield with that original pavement. We'd be looking within a couple years of having to do something and then potentially interfering with the work that we have done causing conflicts. **Council Member Doumbouya:** I understand. Thank you. **[34:55] Council Member Rowan:** Um, I'm just curious the will the airport be shut down at all? Will it affect any of our renters? **Travis Block:** Uh there will be impacts to everyone who uses the airfield. Yes. Those will be addressed through project sequencing with issuing of NOTAMS and our fixed based operator coordinating with users of the airport on what areas are going to be inaccessible at certain times. The project will has a sequencing phase that allows maximal use of the airport to try to minimize that disruption but there will be times when there's certain areas that will not be able to be utilized. Especially the area that's going to receive the full depth reconstruction. The whole project is only expected to take about two months. **Council Member Rowan:** And this is just an educational question. 2004 is one that I heard. Does it usually last longer than your average pavement then? **Travis Block:** Depends. Yes or no. Like I said, that is a very wet area. So what the pavement out there sees is basically just sun exposure and then there is some heaving that can happen when that the ground is expanding and contracting. But uh it's hard to say that it would last... one would think yes that it would last longer but like I said the ground conditions out there typically have the largest influence on the life cycle of it. **Council Member Rowan:** Don't use salt, use seal coat? **Travis Block:** Um there is seal coating that can be done. We have not done that in the time that I've been here. There's a little bit different process that has to be done. You can't use a traditional seal coat because the aggregate can't be exposed with propellers. They do more like a slurry over it. But we've been really fortunate. It's got a long pretty long life cycle. **[37:27] Jessica Kinser (City Administrator):** I would just like to point out that uh while this won't kind of line up um July 9th is a council chat that will be at the airport um combined with our residence academy. Um, so we'll be able to give you the this is what's going to be happening and when and we'll have a contractor by then as well. **[37:58] Council Member Van Sluis:** Okay, let's talk about the federal dollars. So, have we taken possession of the money, the 150k for 2022? **Travis Block:** Those funds... we will take that action when we submit a grant application. Then all of that funding will be part of that grant application. **Council Member Van Sluis:** But we don't get it per year and set it aside? **Travis Block:** We've been banking them. We physically haven't been taking it. We just roll that over every year because we didn't have an eligible project and then after four years then we have to commit to that and then that's what we will be doing when we apply for the grant. **Council Member Van Sluis:** Let me rephrase the question. So out of the total 1.185 million, how much money have we gotten from the federal government in reality, not commitments, but reality? **Travis Block:** Zero. Right now until we apply for the grant. **Council Member Van Sluis:** And so there is a chance that because of things that have changed that they could say no? **Travis Block:** There always is that. But as I previously stated, this is all contingent upon receiving that grant. If we don't receive the grant, then we're at a standstill. **Council Member Van Sluis:** Nothing further. **[39:23] Council Member Ross:** Mayor Spooner. I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2025-120. **Council Member Rowan:** I'll second. **Mayor Spooner:** Have a motion by Ross and a second by Rowan to approve resolution 2025. All in favor? (Council: Aye). All opposed. Motion passes. Next item is resolution 2025-109 approval of preliminary development agreement extension between the city of Faribault and Rebound Real Estate LLC. Director David Wanberg. **[40:01] David Wanberg (CED Director):** Thank you, Mayor and Council. The city of Faribault owns a 2.69 acre parcel at 105 Riverchase Court just south of the viaduct. And on February 13th, 2024, the city of Faribault and Rebound Real Estate LLC entered into an agreement um that gave both parties one year to negotiate a purchase agreement for that property. And then earlier this year on February 4th, Rebound requested a 180-day extension to that agreement. At the council meeting on February 11th, the council passed a resolution which denied rebound's request for 180-day extension, but approved a 90-day extension. That 90-day extension is set to expire on May 14th, which is tomorrow. **[41:04] David Wanberg:** Um so, earlier this month, Matt Ganter on behalf of Rebound submitted a formal request to extend the agreement another 60 days, although they do feel that they can have a proposal to us within 30 days, but have asked for another 60 days just in case. Uh Matt Ganter is here and he's prepared to tell you more about where they're at in this process. Um they do report that they've made significant process in preparing development plans. Meanwhile, city staff is aware of another developer who has expressed interest in this particular property. Um and if you choose to not extend this agreement another 60 days, um that developer is aware that it could expire as of tomorrow. **[42:18] David Wanberg:** Um the important thing for you to know is that this property has sat undeveloped for quite some time now. Um so there is some urgency for the city to be able to sell this property and get it developed and get some taxes coming off of that. If the city council is confident that it can reach a development and acquisition agreement with rebound in the next 60 days, it could move forward and extend that. Alternatively, the city council could choose to let this expire um and then open it up to anyone. I do want to point out that in Minnesota that when it comes to disposing of municipal property, there isn't a need to do like an RFP or a need to have competitive bids. The city can negotiate and handle that property however it decides. **[43:10] David Wanberg:** Um so there would be an opportunity if you choose to open it up... and you could have a variety of approaches. So again what rebound is asking for is an an exclusive approach for 60 days. The resolution that you have before you tonight is to approve a 60-day extension based on the request that came to you from rebound. Um you can choose to deny that if you want. I'm happy to answer any questions and I know Matt Ganter from Rebound is here. **[44:07] Council Member Ross:** Director Wanberg, um, I understand you can't disclose the other potential developer but have we had um a relationship with them before? I mean, have they developed in the city before and has it gone well? **David Wanberg:** Yeah, we've had relationship with a number of developers and... specifically the one that is waiting in the wings. I think that would be fair to say. We have had good experiences with them. **Council Member Ross:** Um, is it fair for us to know what their project is? **David Wanberg:** The other developer that has expressed interest... was open to either like something like senior cooperative housing or 55 plus housing similar to what rebound [proposed]. So the same information that we provided to rebound we've also provided to this potential developer. **Council Member Ross:** I just wanted to clarify whether the person waiting in the wings, you know, if they've developed within the city. Thank you. **[45:21] Mayor Spooner:** Would anybody else like to hear from the developer? [Council nods]. That's all right. All right, you got your couple minutes. **[45:55] Matt Ganter (Rebound Real Estate):** Thank you for taking our time. Um, so what I wanted to share is just kind of what we've been doing here couple months and what we need to... so in the past couple months we've gone out to a few different contractors been able to reduce our per unit cost by about 20%. A few things that have gone into that helping us develop that has significantly [impacted the] project. Uh additionally we've gotten both our management group and our internal [team] to suggest that so that also basically where we had taken it project. Steps here in the next couple months. Able to do that in about 30 days. Um hoping that you guys will approve here. We can just continue to get it all ready to go. And oh, one other thing was we did talk management who manages a lot [of properties]. **[48:02] Mayor Spooner:** Any questions for the developer? **Council Member Barnes:** Yes. Wanted to thank you for being interested in establishing building and that's what we want. That's what we're pushing for. So, I thank you for your interest. And however tonight turns out, please don't be [discouraged] to leave or to not try it again. **Council Member Doumbouya:** Thank you, mayor. Um, so if we if we don't give you another 60 days, what do you have in it for hard costs or lost cost besides time? **[48:54] Matt Ganter:** So yeah, basically the pre-design costs and correct... yes yeah so in general it would be pre-design costs to our architects. Generally when you are [working with a] construction group they will give [estimates], but the architectural group [is a hard cost]. Thank you. **[49:23] Mayor Spooner:** All right. We're going to bring it back here to the council for action and comment period. Uh I'm going to go first. Uh I'm going to vote in the negative on this. Uh this is an extension that they've had. I was frankly against it in February. Uh they not only that before they had a year um this is a piece of property. Uh I know in my heart uh we will have another developer very interested in this. So I think that this is something that the city council needs to look at. Granting extensions... they've had plenty of time. Um, at this point in time in February, they should have been close to finishing their project. I think it's time to move on. I'm going to vote in the negative on this. **[50:52] Council Member Barnes:** I disagree. I think you made some good points and when this was brought to the docket was it February I believe that was the discussion: is there anyone else interested? We did agree to a [short extension]. We are at that time. It is disappointing that we're not further in this. With that said, it was stated that if we don't approve this, this is pretty much... Mr. Mayor, do we make a motion and then vote nay? **[51:57] Jessica Kinser:** Well, there's two things you could do here. You could make a motion or you could simply just not take action. That would be correct. **[52:13] Council Member Ross:** Mayor Spooner I don't think it's... I mean I understand the whole philosophy behind it but I don't think it's fair to to die so I will make a motion to approve the 60-day extension for resolution 2025-109. Have a vote on it. If I get a second, you know, and if we don't get a second, then it will die. **Mayor Spooner:** Any other further discussion? All right. I have a motion to approve resolution 2025- favor. I want to do a roll call. **[53:03] Heather Slechta:** Council member Barnes? (Hi). Doumbouya? (Nay). Ross? (Hi). Rowan? (Nay). Mayor Spooner? (Nay). **Mayor Spooner:** So unfortunately [the motion fails]. All right. On to the next item. **David Wanberg:** Administrator, if I could um if if you have some additional direction on how you would like to proceed, you know, with others. Um, so I to be clear, anyone could... Rebound could continue, as council member Barnes mentioned, to get their proposal in, but you would entertain a proposal from anyone at this point? **Mayor Spooner:** 100%. This is open. They're technically not out of this yet. They can come back if they have a signed, sealed agreement they're willing to sign, we would definitely entertain it. But we have another developer that we've worked with in the past. Yeah, they're ready. I know they are. So, hey, thank you, mayor. **[54:26] Mayor Spooner:** All right, on to bids. We have none. Boards and commissions reports, project updates. Anyone? **[54:36] Jessica Kinser:** Um, just some heads up. So, May 20th is when Allison Bernett is going to be back in town and we'll have our SWOT analysis review. Um just in full clarity of what's going to be discussed. Um I have provided you a copy of that ahead of the agenda going out. If you lose it before Tuesday, there will be copies at the meeting. Um, this is a 2-hour session, 1 hour 45 minute session. And so is starting at 5:00 pm on next Tuesday the 20th something that will work for all of you? Okay. Um, the great hall at the library is taken. So, Buckham West will be the location. **[55:27] Council Member Rowan:** Administrator Kinser, is there a... when's the next council chat? **Jessica Kinser:** Oh, thank you for bringing that up. The next council chat is tomorrow at 6 pm also at Buckham West and it is going to be a panel of individuals that work directly with affordable housing talking about different trends and things that they're seeing. Um yeah, I think we're going to have an interesting conversation. And and just to be clear, Buckham West is the former senior center, correct? Not Buckham West Library. Correct. **[56:09] Jessica Kinser:** Um and then one other announcement. Uh there is also something else happening tomorrow from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. in the same room at the Buckham West Senior Center large room, and that is Paul Peanasky's retirement party. So, uh, we hope that everybody will be able to make it and wish Paul well as Friday is his last day. So, thank you to Paul for his service. **Council Member Ross:** And just so everybody knows, I'll be filling in for Royal on the KDHL interviews. **[56:56] Mayor Spooner:** Yeah, we got Memorial Day parade. There's nice. All right, seeing none, I'll take a motion to adjourn. **Council Member Doumbouya:** So move. **Council Member Van Sluis:** Second. **Mayor Spooner:** Motion by Doumbouya, seconded by Van Sluis. All those in favor? [Aye].