Based on the context provided and the dialogue within the transcript, here is the formatted version with speaker names added. **[00:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I'd like to welcome everyone tonight for a regular city council meeting for Wednesday, April 13, 2016. And we'll start with a Pledge of Allegiance, please. **[00:10] Group:** I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. **[00:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We have some guests here tonight, so once we're done with the consent agenda and the public comments, I'll jump ahead to our guests and then we'll come back to department reports. So starting with the agenda, do we have any additions or changes to the agenda? **[00:40] Council Member Kris Huso:** Just for Item under number five previously discussed business Under I the hiring timeline the new city administrator after that put a dash or whatever put in setup meeting. **[00:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Anything else anyone? Hearing none, do we have a motion to accept the agenda? **[01:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** So moved. **[01:02] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do we have a second? **[01:03] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll second. **[01:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All in favor say aye. **[01:06] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:07] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. Under consent agenda, the minutes, number one, March 9th, 2016, regular city council meeting. Number two is the April 6th, 2016, special city council minutes. Number three is the March 23rd, 2016 regular water and light minutes. Do I have any discussion or questions on the minutes? **[01:30] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I so note we accept them as written. **[01:32] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do I have a second? **[01:33] Council Member Kris Huso:** I'll second. **[01:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any discussion or questions? There are none, all in favor say aye. **[01:38] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:39] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. Number 2B financial reports. Number one, the city accounts payable for April. Number two, the city financial statements of March 2016. Number three is a liquor store profit and loss statement for March 2016. We have a motion to accept financial reports. **[02:00] Council Member Walter Lower III:** I do have one question and maybe it's directed to the police chief. I was just wondering about on page 18 just one of the officers—it's there been a lot of overtime at the PD? **[02:15] Police Chief Bryce:** Yeah, there was a period one of the officers was on vacation and we couldn't have another person. **[02:22] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any other questions that motion to accept the financial reports? **[02:26] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll make that motion. **[02:27] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I have a second? **[02:28] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Second. **[02:29] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any further questions, discussion? All in favor say aye. **[02:32] Council Members:** Aye. **[02:34] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. Number three, public comment. This time is reserved for comments from the public on matters not listed on the agenda. Please keep comments to three minutes. I'm Alan Chen and I do have you under previously discussed business just so you know. Hearing nothing on public comments, we'll move on. We'll jump ahead and tell some of the guests we have. If we go down to number 5A, consider Knollwood Drive water main extension, update estimate of cost, bore versus dig. If you look on page 54, We have two estimates. I asked this of Global Excavating, who's been doing work in the city for years and years, and we've used them for everything in the world, as far as water and sewer. For two bids, one was for boring. If you bore down from the hydrant, all the way down to Oldwood, and putting in a four-inch water main. It's 420 feet. And if that was put in as a boring, then anybody on that street at any future time could tap into it. So that's one estimate. And that was where it came to 40,987. Now these are informational bids because we didn't ask for any other bids. We don't have a project we have voted on or anything. I just wanted this open discussion with the council because we've talked about this through the last year and have not come to a resolution other than we wouldn't do the large $150,000 project. The second bid that I asked from him was this would be a trench, same thing, 420 feet, eight-inch duct iron pipe. And this would be, plus both of them are installing a hydrant at the far end of the project at the end of Knollwood. And doing the trench with an eight-inch ductile iron pipe was $52,100. Those are two options. And Shannon, if you have time, or Al, we talked earlier today and you were talking about possibilities of a well, and I just wanted the council to hear that information also. **[05:10] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** Right, yeah, absolutely, appreciate it. Actually, it's interesting you bring up a little bit about the excavation for our foundation for us on the property we were building at 141. Yeah, so we can—we had an estimate done last year for a well at the property of 141 as well as for Al's property at 133 Knollwood and if we were to do wells at both of those properties it is unfortunately would require a variance in order to get a well in the way the property is situated but it could be done according to the state of Minnesota but it would be six thousand dollars a piece to have that done so and that's two of the properties that are on Knollwood. So if other residents on Knollwood come up with a situation where they're going to have to have issues, if they have issues with their wells and need well replacement, need well repair, we're just under one third of the total properties that are there. We represent two thirds of that proposed cost on the four-inch pipe. So that's where that sits with us. We're coming up on a timeline under our construction where we need to get water hooked up. Into the house we've got plumbing into the house. There's some changes that need to be made different things like that it's pressure tested but like to have some sort of resolution from the city as to what they're going to be so we need to know what they're going to do as we need to know what direction we need to move if we need to move forward on well or not so. **[07:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Anybody have any questions for Shannon? I appreciate it. So, just open for discussion on Knollwood. We've heard some of the options that we have. This is new information for us now. Any questions by the council? **[07:20] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** Phil, Ed, and I, we went up there and visited with everybody today. And because one concern was the wells, because I'm still in question if they can really legally do it and how they can get the well rigs in there. Because there's no, it's just small lots. And again, the public health reasons for wells in town, because the houses are all close together, there seems like that could bring up issues too. And also talking to them, there was actually three that we're looking at hooking up to this water line that we put it in, not just one. So that would be our city inspector, I guess he was interested in hooking up to the city water also. And I don't believe there's anybody else on the block at this time that is interested in up, but probably in the future. Looks like a beautiful home being built on the end there. Hopefully it's going to be, you know, a half a million dollar home so the taxes will be, you know, take care of everything there. So it's going to be very nice. And, you know, with that hydrant down at the end, that's going to help a lot. **[08:20] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Protection, I'm concerned with the size pipe. I wouldn't go up a four-inch pipe if you could put a hydrant on the end. I don't think if you're talking, but I understand if you do a bore, I don't think you can go any bigger than four-inch. I understand. Correct. I really wouldn't pay to put a hydrant on there. If we hooked up to that hydrant, we'd suck water out of the hoses. And the other thing is if we did go with the eight, there's an opportunity to make a loop there too with Joe Mohalski's where the sewer runs up his, there's a right away there that goes on his driveway and we could, you know, some of you may be explore that where you can actually make a loop water system there which really enhances firefighting capabilities and insurance and so forth. **[09:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Is he still having trouble? Does anybody know with water? Joe? **[09:10] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** I know it froze one year. He must be on—he must have some well, I think, there too. **[09:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I don't think so. I think he's on city water. **[09:18] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** But it's a long run. It's from the twin roads all the way down into his property. It's a couple hundred feet. **[09:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Pardon? **[09:26] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** It's a couple hundred feet down here. **[09:28] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, at least. You'd actually be closer at the end of this for him. **[09:32] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** Yeah, we're closer to that. Very much so. **[09:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** So, in saying all that, I guess I would recommend that we go forth in bidding this out and looking at the, again, the pipe that we have utilizing that and putting in that eight-inch. Do we have eight-inch stuff too? Do we have extra? **[09:50] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Do we have a lot of four-inch from the old project? No, what Phil said, that's all we could do is the eight inches that he has. **[09:58] Mayor Jim Michalski:** What's—do we have? **[10:00] Phil Entner (City Supt):** I'm not sure right now how many, I think it's over a thousand feet. I'm not sure of that. **[10:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any other discussion? **[10:07] Alan "Al" Chen (Guest/Resident):** I have a little addition. Please come up to the podium. Thank you very much, Shannon and everyone, for moving us up on the agenda right away. The $6,000 bids was if he did both of ours and if we could get a variance of ours to put a well in the front of the house or on the street side. If we can't do that and if we have to go in the back, which also would require variance, we'd have to take down trees and do some regrading. And I know Joyce Latt, who next door went, want her tree taken down and we can't do that and on the other side either. And then the expense would be at least $7,500 or more to do all that extra work. And it would be just a simple well derriving of $6,000. So that expenses for replacing other wells going forward would be more for other neighbors as well. Plus the safety of the water as Mr. Peterson alluded to is our wells right by the lake are only 25 feet deep and we're pulling in lake water which may not be 100% pure. **[11:05] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So are you going to hook up then? **[11:08] Alan "Al" Chen:** Yeah, I'm right here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I was shocked when I saw the notes that only one person wanted because we had come to all the meetings and both of us were talking about we both have two different homes and houses on it that we wanted. But yes, I had always started to push because, well they're building the house, they're staying at our house. Ever since they started, Emily has had to carry all of the laundry to the laundromat and do all of the clothes and do everything at the laundromat and for a long time washed all the dishes by hand. They have flushed it out with stuff and increased the water flow a little bit, but it still is inadequate. Thank you. **[11:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yes, Steve. **[12:00] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** The four-inch, I don't think the Department of Health would give us a permit to put in a four-inch main to provide service to the homes down there. And I agree with the fire chief. We wouldn't have any fire flows on the hydrant. It would only be for flushing. And if the cost difference is only $12,000, if we can get the eight-inch for $12,000 more, that's kind of a no-brainer in my opinion because then we would have fire flow at the end, which is really what we need down there. So. **[12:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** Do you have a question? This is installing one new service to existing home. That would be three service—I mean, if we had Dwayne Grace and those two, so this Grace would actually increase them? **[12:50] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I would guess, I'd have to talk to Tim and see, but, and if we remember, Tim did in business last time, and I talked to him, he said he would be interested in bidding it if we were to bid it again. So we did have, I believe we had our Department of Health permit when we bid it that first time. So the permits there, this was 52,000 and your question is right. If there's two more services, we'd have to ask Tim how much does that add per service? And each home, whoever does choose to, would have to pay for that hookup. And they would have to put their line in from their house to this and pay for the hookup. Correct. Right? But I'm guessing what Tim is doing here is he would put the hookup in while it's open. That's what I'm guessing he's stating here. If I hit my way, I'd stub out at every house right now. It would make sense. **[13:45] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Yeah, and then we wouldn't be digging out to the main again in the next 20 years. **[13:50] Mayor Jim Michalski:** So the cost goes up. And I think I wanted to give a basic cost to supply water for the one that we knew would hook up. Now we know there's two. Possibly three. But still, we could work in the, if you're installing a hookup, to me, I'm... How many houses are there, though? **[14:10] Council Member:** Seven. **[14:11] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Seven. And then there's one empty lot, right? That belongs to John. Is that in the seven that you're counting? **[14:18] Council Member:** No. **[14:19] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, so there's possibly eight. Yeah. Well, that's an empty lot on Joe's property that he uses just for dumping stuff. I doubt anything would go in there in the future. Potentially. We don't have a breakdown of what those are, but this is just kind of giving a ballpark for the council of where the possibilities are. I'm guessing a hookup like that when it's open, is it, what, $500, $600 range? **[14:50] Phil Entner (City Supt):** I would say under a thousand. **[14:52] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Just so everyone gets an idea where we would be at. Further discussion? **[14:58] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Where's the next hydrant that you need to drop in? **[15:02] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Oh, I guess. Right on this corner right at the—the other hydrant is right at the corner of Knollwood. Yeah, you come up from Lakeshore, and when it makes the turn to head west, there's a hydrant right there at the corner. Exactly. Yeah. At the old doctor's house there. **[15:20] Alan "Al" Chen:** One add on the cost of running to each individual house was under a thousand. We aren't going to have everyone do it all at one time except us two. But I would think that if it's all done at one time, the total ultimate cost would be much less if it were all put in all at one time right up front. And it would cost more for each individual to do it individually later on in the future years. We watch you for everybody I have right now. Right. And one reason we have the water shortages and many of our neighbors know that, like my mom was a widow for many years and Joyce Latu was a widow and Jean was a widow and one person doesn't use very much water at all and you get a family of four in the multiple usage and the pumps can't handle it. So as Joyce—as far as the younger family comes in, she wouldn't need to do it in other families. But that's the future, not now. **[16:20] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I understand, yeah. Thank you. Council? **[16:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Well, if we want fire protection down there, we have to do it. There's no limit on the bus boat. We're talking about the safety of drinking water. We need that. It's talking about the safety of residents' homes. **[16:40] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** And we did at the request of the council last fall, we did have the water tested in the house and we are bringing in water. We're drinking tap water currently, let alone we're cooking with them. It's not extreme, but it's enough. The quality of water is not that high, but it's not Flint, Michigan, but it could be better. **[17:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** This myself, I'd like to make a recommendation that the council moves with this with the eight-inch structural—I know we have to go out for formal bids. I don't know the timelines, how that works with yours. I mean, we only can do what we can do. Work can be done quicker now that, of course, the weather's better. Blacktopping would have to be done later because none of the plants are open yet, but that all can be still part of the bid and done at the time when it's available. With that I'll leave it in the council's hands. **[17:40] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I do have a question when we put it all to bid can we require that they use our 8-inch pipe versus here I had a question—what was the council's desires of how we're going to pay for this? **[17:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** This would come out of the water and how much we have in there, Gene, is it $200,000? I can tell you right now. But anyway, they would have to come out of the water fund. That's what we have in there right now. Normally you do assess as well, the property owners that go home. And then we might ask, how much is the hookup fee going to be? Are we going to assess or are we going to just have flat hookup fee or? **[18:25] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Right now, we only charge $250 for sewer and 250 for water hookup fees. And that was something we wanted to talk about before, increasing that, because it hasn't changed in years. And which is good, but this is a new line in which we're occurring. **[18:45] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Right, and I think normally you do assess. Correct? **[18:48] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I agree. I think we talked about before, it'd be nice to take it from different pots, let's say, and make it as fiscally easy on everyone as we possibly can. **[19:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I think we had enough discussion, we're getting along on this, so I'm gonna call this right now. Is there a motion on the floor? **[19:10] Council Member Kris Huso:** Can I just ask one more question? But if we decide to assess, do we need to and kind of let them know because obviously you would want your assessment to be more than what you put in a well at. Thank you. You know, I mean. **[19:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, and I agree with that too. I think, wouldn't you assess all the property owners that could hook in? Every single lot down the line? **[19:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** That means you have to do public hearings and you have to, I think, two public hearings at minimum. If you split that total up 52,000 seven ways, that's more than putting in a well. **[19:50] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** It's a percentage. You don't—when you do it, it's not the full amount. It's a percentage. If you're gonna use the 429 process, you'd have to have an improvement hearing, that's the first hearing, and then order the improvement. And then there's another public hearing called the assessment hearing. We went through this with Park Place Drive. That's the assessment hearing. So there are two public hearings and there are timelines. I think they're usually 30-day notifications. So with a case like this, what I would recommend is that the property owners that want it now would write a letter requesting the improvement and then sign what's called a waiver of appeal and the city attorney can put that together rather quickly. So in other words, the council agreed to what's the value of a water service to those houses, the property owners agree to it and say they won't appeal the assessment. And then take care of it that way. Should you assess the rest of the properties? You can and there's different ways to do that too. You could assess them all and have them all start paying it or you could defer the assessment until they hook up to it. It's still an assessment on their parcel recorded at the county so if they went to sell the parcel, normally cities want it cleared up before you close. But a lot of times if it's an elderly person living in the house, and there's rules for that too, if you're over 65, you can automatically have your assessment deferred. Until, even if you hook up, you can have it deferred, is the way I understand the law. So should you assess each parcel now? I would recommend you do so it gets on the books, because otherwise who's gonna remember that there should be a hookup fee of whatever you agree to with these two parties, if that makes sense. **[22:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do you remember the percentage? Is it based on the improvement to the lot? Is that how it goes? It's not the whole, you don't take the whole amount and divide it by seven to get the assessment. **[22:12] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Yes, yes you can. You can, it's the—under 429, it's the improvement in money to the parcel. So if there's a value increase of $6,000, because that's what a new well costs, that's the provable improvement to the parcel, and you could assess that much to each lot. **[22:30] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Can you select the assessment amount? **[22:32] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Yes. **[22:33] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Yes, okay. **[22:34] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Yes, it's whatever the improvement to the parcel is. Cities get in more trouble doing that percentage method because that's kind of a—okay, we'll assess 90%. Well, the law reads, you're supposed to assess the improvement and not necessarily a percentage of the improvement, but cities all do that. Especially for like street improvements, that's kind of what cities do, but it's really supposed to assess the monetary improvement to the parcel. And there again, you don't have to assess each lot down there at this time. You could somehow come up with a way to create an improvement district and assess them in the future, but that's hard to remember. **[23:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Sounds like either way we would want Mark being involved this up absolutely—could you just say it's a hookup charge and for this area for this project and if X amount of dollars for the hookup charge for that project? **[23:40] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I think we're that you could but I think it—Marguerite might recommend that you actually go through the 429 process to set that up because for six or seven future hookups to create an improvement district might cost more than just hold your improvement hearing, accept the plans, advertise, get your bids, and then hold your assessment hearing. But I would recommend that the property owners write a written petition to the city requesting that hookup before you start. And if the council agrees to an amount they think is fair, then I would just recommend that they're do a waiver of appeal signed by them too. **[24:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Up there? **[24:26] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Yes. **[24:27] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** The way we did it up there in Parkways, we have that hearing first and then we decide on what the assessment is going to be. Is that correct? So we don't have to have a number tonight or before the information period. **[24:40] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No, you don't need to know what that per unit amount would be tonight. At the improvement hearing, everybody wants to know what the number's gonna be, though. So it's—we should know what that is even at the improvement hearing, because if it's too high, they're not gonna wanna do it. **[25:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Well, but I think you're on a timeline. **[25:02] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** Very tight timeline, yes. **[25:04] Mayor Jim Michalski:** So that kind of is a problem. The other option may be trench it in. The city paid for it, but we set a hookup amount for this line. That would be different than the process you just stated, but I don't believe he thinks Marguerite wants to do that. I would ask Marguerite because that's kind of what the question was. Could we create—that's what we would be doing is creating an improvement district. But that may be the only way we can do it to meet the timeline that you're at now with building that house. And what we would need to do to get to the process of booking putting the line in and hooking it up. I guess my question is, could we pay for it and assess no more than an eximul value through assessments? In other words, put it in while we're doing this process? I don't know about that either. **[26:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Mr. Mayor, I think I would say you should talk to Marguerite because I think you can do what you want to do. The city could put that pipe in. Just put it in and then in the future assess it. In the meantime, if they signed waivers of appeals to what you think you're gonna assess, I think she would go along with that that the city's protected. I think you can do what you want to do. I think she can find a way to do it. I've never done it that way, but... **[26:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** But we're just talking about now assessing the people that want—the people. Everybody. Everybody on the street. We might have some people come in here that absolutely don't want it and put it in and we're... **[26:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Yeah, it's... **[26:57] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I understand, but that's what our water fund, we do have the water fund. That's what the fund is for. Yeah, I understand. I think just a recommendation, yes. I think you're looking at, they want to get in their house in July. Is that correct? **[27:15] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** Correct. **[27:16] Mayor Jim Michalski:** So I think we could meet this, like the past 90 days, I think we could meet. It's gonna take at least 30 days to put it out to bid to get a code spec bill back. So all we need to do is make a motion for the hearings and put it out to bid and then work with Marguerite to see in the timeline what it would be. Again, the reason I'm a stickler there, it's just precedence. As I know in the past, if you put in your in water lines or sewer lines, it's been assessed to those owners. **[27:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Oh, I agree. Mr. Mayor, I think we're all in agreement to that. I think it's just, the issue is, is he going to be assessed more than what it would cost to put a well in? And I think that's where—I mean, if that wasn't part of the issue and there was not such a close timeline, I think it's only we can decide on what level, what amount we want to assess them at. We know what the cost of a well is right now. And again, I don't want to see the whole thing be assessed. There's a fire district benefit as well. If you went at $3,000, we're talking $24,000, everyone was hooked up. And what's the benefit of that fire line there for the fire department and for the city of Moose Lake? I think there's a definite benefit for that. I would be comfortable with something somewhere in that ballpark. That's just me. I think we have some options here to work with. Did you see you making a motion? **[29:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I am, yeah. I so move that we set up improvement hearing, yes, and to put this 420 feet 8-inch ductile line out for bid. I guess also in the bid, what the option of hookups are. So we have other people who want to hook up there. What is that gonna cost the city to put in a T and the pipe too, you know, because that will be at our expense. The rest of the line should be the property owner's expense. Is that correct? **[29:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** It is from their property out to our line. That is their expense. It's just like anywhere in town. If your line failed, you have to repair it from your house out to the water main. But there would be cost to our pipe though, which is ours, which we would have we'd have to supply the T, is that right, Steve? **[30:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** On the ductile iron pipe like this, there is no T for a service connection. You do a direct tap and you screw a corp into it. The corp is just a brass valve. **[30:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** So it isn't much cost there at all for us? **[30:17] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No, there's no cast iron T or anything. **[30:20] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, good. But if they're digging out to tap into it, what does it matter if we tap it now, if it's done when, it's actually somebody actually wants to go in with? **[30:35] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Dig the road up again and dig down to the pipe. But wouldn't you have to anyway? I haven't talked to Tim about this, but I would put the pipe in and I would leave it somewhat open where those services are gonna be. Even if he backfilled up so far, the pavement wouldn't be replaced and then he could spin around and dig the service into the curb stop. **[30:58] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I see what you're saying. **[30:59] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Or the owner would have the option of hiring someone else, too. Absolutely, yeah. Looks like it would be 10, I think. **[31:08] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Well, we have a motion, Dan. **[31:10] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** Real quick. I just throw an idea. Throw out an incentive on the assessment. **[31:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Say that again. **[31:16] Shannon (Guest/Resident):** Do an incentive on the assessment to get everybody on board. And now we're going to sign an exclusion to this. We need to go at a $3,000 rate, for example, I'll take the $3,000 assessment personally, but to get other people that are on board, if they hook up at time of installment, their assessment is $2,500. Give them an option. **[31:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Possibility. **[31:41] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** They don't hook up the $5,500. Yeah, we can, yeah. All right. All right. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none, all in favor say aye. **[31:55] Council Members:** Aye. **[31:56] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. I just want to say thank you to everyone with all your patience for getting this resolved. **[32:05] Residents:** You're welcome. **[32:06] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All right, we have another guest that came in. What would you, Brian? Under 4B8, Brian is here. Placement of city on drinking water revolving loan fund. Interesting. Right at the point for retirement model of drinking water. **[32:25] Brian (SEH Engineer):** Good evening. So I included a memo in the packet, and it was kind of two different topics. and the first part of it was I just wanted to provide an update on a new bonding bill that's out and is likely going to be going through here in May, which has a large portion of water, wastewater infrastructure financing with it. And I was involved in some listening sessions last fall around the state in which municipalities, certain municipalities were invited to go sit before Department of Health, PCA and PFA, just discuss water-wastewater infrastructure problems. A lot of those comments were aging infrastructure, increased regulation, decrease in users, and we don't have money to implement all these projects. So there's about, I think there's about a dozen of these around the state. This went back through legislation and got put into where they really looked at how much the state is giving for these type of projects. So I want to update you on that and then also talk about, you know, what advantages this might mean for Moose Lake. So in table one here, I just wanted to show some of the funding that is going to be available compared to what's been available in the past. And again, this isn't official, but everything I've heard, it's going to be going through. So there's a few different programs. There's the water infrastructure funding program, which targets water and wastewater. And then there's the point source implementation grant. Now the point source implementation grant, the city actually received for the current wastewater projects because we were treating for phosphorus. But if you look at the normal funds available and then the proposed 2017 funds, for the wastewater projects, you're looking at an increase from 10 to 20 million to 55 million. Water infrastructure was very limited in grant dollars in the past. Now they're looking at 25 million. And then the point source implementation grant, the total was 10 million. It's proposed of up to 62. So you're looking at four to five to six times the amount of grant dollars for water, wastewater infrastructure than there has been in the past. And this isn't supposed to be just a one-year program. They realize that it's going to take longer than one year to solve all these problems. So they're hopeful that this type of grant dollars is going to be there down the road in future years as well. So because of this information, I thought it was appropriate to look at the city's eligibility for these type of programs. And these WIF dollars are available based on affordability. So the state has determined that for water, wastewater, for water, an affordable amount for a user is 1.2% of the median household income. And for wastewater, it's 1.4%. So if you begin to cross that threshold is when you become eligible for these grant dollars. So we have looked at some of the finances and run numbers on that. What we found, I guess you can look at it in two ways, a good and a bad news is, is that the percentages we found were that your current O&M costs and debt service costs put your water infrastructure at about 0.85% of your median household income, wastewater's 0.95%. So those are pretty far under the grant threshold, which means you would need to implement some pretty large projects to get to that grant amount. So that's the negative. The positive side is, compared to what the state thinks is affordable, your water-wastewater budget is actually deemed affordable for what your current expenditures are. So I was, in some ways I was hoping you were closer to that limit because that would open us up to some grant dollars, but at the same time it does show that compared to other communities, you are still in the affordable range as the state has deemed it. The one good thing though, even though the grant money might not be there right now. This applies to water treatment, water pumping, wastewater treatment, but it also applies to collection and distribution systems. So if you implement a street project, when looking at these funds, a third of your cost is going to go to water. Say you do water, sewer, and street. 33% will be attributed to water, 33% to wastewater, 33% to street reconstruction. So as you do streets, certain portions are going to be placed on your water, wastewater budget. And as those are done, you're going to creep closer to that magic percentage. So it is possible that in the future you may be eligible for grant dollars. The other thing is, is because there's more grant money available, they're trying to fund more projects through low-interest loans. So it makes it easier to get the loans because more people are getting grant dollars. So they're just trying to fund overall more projects. So that was kind of the first part of the discussion and then the second part of the discussion was in specifics to potential well house project. Last fall the city identified, the council did that the well house was something that needed to be investigated. Specifically started with electrical upgrades and then it kind of morphed into looking at the whole facility. And we're still working on that overall water-wastewater CIP plan which we plan to have to the council in June. But part of that is the well house. And with the way the funding cycle works, if the city wants to move forward with a project on the well house, we're going to want to be prepared for that in the Department of Health PFA's funding cycle. So there's a couple applications we need to have in, one in May, one in June, to be on that list. That list does not commit the city to doing a project. If the project gets delayed, we can stay on the list for two or three years and just simply reapply it. But if the city does want to move forward with the project, it's very important to get on the list. And that's the first thing to do for loans, for grant, for anything. You want to be on the project priority list, PPL, and the IUP intended use plan. So I included some draft letters I put together for application. And what I can say on what we've looked at the Wellhouse so far, there's definitely upgrades needed. The electrical system is out of code. It's very old, and there's some other upgrades. So I think there's two options, a rehabilitation project or a new well house. Either way, we're going to want to be on the list for funding. And when I set up the letters, I just assumed the worst-case scenario because that's the highest dollar amount. I wanted to get that on their books in case the project comes. If we would scale back and do the rehab project, it's really not a significant factor. But I wanted to take the worst-case scenario when I put together those documents. With that I was looking for the council's approval to apply for those for both the PPL and IUP and basically we have the draft letters they just need to be put on city letterhead and submitted to the agencies and then the city would be in place for funding in the 2017 fiscal year if the project was to move forward. **[40:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Are any of these matching grant monies—is any of this matching funds? Do we have to match? **[40:22] Brian (SEH Engineer):** No, these are not. Those WIF funds are principal forgiveness. So typically, and again, I can point out that these are very preliminary. It's a pretty complicated process when they look at the WIF dollars about affordability. We did these, gone through our normal process, but to truly get the numbers, we'd want to involve the PFA loan officer. But I just wanted a ballpark. If we were on the verge of—I think I had the numbers in here that on the water side it looked like about a two-million-dollar project would put you at the affordability limit on the wastewater would be a three-million-dollar project. Typically what happens, say the water you did a four-million-dollar project, what's going to end up happening is two million, if you qualify, you get grant dollars and the rest of it they would finance through. But if you were at the affordability limit it's completely possible that they would the grant would cover the entire project. That part I didn't understand so if there's any questions I'd be happy to answer them otherwise for the most part was looking for approval on submitting those applications. **[41:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Council? **[41:42] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I still move that we apply for those applications for the grant dollars for sewer and water. **[41:48] Council Member Kris Huso:** Second that—is that correctly we would be stating with well...? **[41:52] Brian (SEH Engineer):** This application is for a funding list, so it's not actually a grant application, it's a funding list. So this puts you on the list for both low-interest loan and grant dollars. **[42:02] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So that's my motion you'll call it to be on the funding list you probably need to help. **[42:06] Council Member Kris Huso:** I second follow up. **[42:08] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We have a second. Any further questions or discussion? All in favor say aye. **[42:11] Council Members:** Aye. **[42:12] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. Thank you. We have one other guest here tonight, Pam. And this is on 5M. **[42:25] Pam (Guest):** Thank you, and as you can see, we have our handicap doors in, which is yay, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm just pumped about that, and I forgot my notes, but I think I'm gonna, sorry. That's okay. Thank you. I just wanted you to know what a win is going to be doing next on our agenda. We plan on having a senior citizens in Moose Lake, kind of volunteers, we hope to get volunteers to come in and we're going to do seniors like yard works, wash outside windows and stuff like that. So I'm just letting you know so you're aware of it because we're going to have it in the paper this week. And it's going to be on May 21st and we'll probably do it like from nine in the morning to one. So in the paper it'll come out and if anybody asks you, we are looking for volunteers, we're doing this through Carlton County Volunteer Services, so we're kinda under their umbrella. And so they will have, they will give me the paperwork and everything that we need to do for that. And so right now it depends on how many seniors apply for help and how many volunteers we get, but we will provide lunch. You know, if anybody's interested, you're welcome to come on board, but I just thought I'd like, you know, that's our next plan. Thank you. **[43:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Great, thanks, Pam. We're going to have a guest, Ben. Thank you for waiting. **[44:02] Ben Anderson (Guest):** No problem. **[44:03] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Consider donation requests. **[44:05] Ben Anderson:** Yes, all right. I'm Ben Anderson, and I'm on the Transportation Advisory Board, apparently. Kids at school so you go to the wrong meeting and you end up on board. So I don't know if you guys know what it is, transportation night. We're with ECFE, so pre-k to sixth graders is who we deal with. It's in conjunction with Barnum Schools. It's what they do once a year. It's May 18th this year, Wednesday night at the Carlton County Fairgrounds. They bring in every type of possible vehicle you can get. From ambulances, tow trucks, logging trucks, anything we can possibly get our hands on to get up there. Kids go through them, have a blast, honk the horns, see the lights, everything they can do. And then that's all free for everybody. The way they get their money is they do a spaghetti dinner, which is like five bucks a person if you want to do that. The other thing they do is they ask for donations. And they have donations of two types that they do. One is a gift donation of some sort of, like Bob at the Harvest or you have a turkey cooker. Anything random we can get our hands on. We gift baskets, people buy raffle tickets, and eventually, let's say we fill out a number, a winner gets that. So we make that money. The other thing is just monetary donations is what we look for. And all this money again gets pooled with everything we make there and it gets split between Moose Lake School and Barnum School. That's how it goes 50-50 on all the profits. And the money that Moose Lake is going to be using it for is new playground equipment at the new school. Right now, so far I'm talking to them, apparently they don't have even logistics yet on if there's gonna be one or two playgrounds or if they're gonna get any new equipment. They know if they can get new equipment over there, there has to be some sort of fundraising. They're gonna have to match it somehow. It's not all gonna be part of the school money there. So this is just getting us a head start on trying to get some of that fundraising money so when we get to it, hope we get more input then on, or the school get more input on, what they can get. So yeah, so right now we're looking for that. And then of course anything else, since I'm standing up here, we take and say monetary value, if there's any chance we could get a vehicle up there from the city. And I'd gladly talk to the Spencer or Phil or Tom, see if they'd go up here. We could just get okay to take a vehicle up there, spend a couple hours, let the kids see this stuff, you know, have a lesson, get it back. Anything we can get would be great. So that's what we're after right now. So any questions you have on that? **[46:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Council? Discussion, action? **[47:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Just, you know, Barnum City All Day, you give $100 from their city all day. That's good for the last five years. **[47:10] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll mention that we donate $150. **[47:13] Council Member Kris Huso:** I'll second it. **[47:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Questions, discussion? **[47:17] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Just quick. Do we bring our bucket truck up there? **[47:20] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** Last couple years, not, I don't know if I got that spinning this year or not. **[47:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** May 18th, put it on schedule. **[47:28] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** Give the kids a ride or whatever. **[47:30] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Do we charge them for that then? **[47:32] Jim Pederson (Power Supt):** No, we don't. **[47:34] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Oh, shit. Okay. **[47:36] Ben Anderson:** They don't charge. Yeah, if you can say anything we can ever get, I appreciate it. **[47:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All in favor say aye. **[47:41] Council Members:** Aye. **[47:42] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Anybody that's here that's a guest, you're welcome to leave when your business is done. We'll jump back, I think that is our guest, that brings us back to 4A, this is Department of Ports Police Chief. Page 37 of the book. **[48:10] Police Chief Bryce:** Thank you. The next five will be built here at the end of the month. Supposed to be built on the 25th. So we hope to be taking possession of that in the next month. So original plan was to keep the Durango and sell the charger however, the Durango has developed an oil leak and it's pretty expensive to get it fixed and I would recommend spending the money to get it fixed. So I guess my thought is to keep the charger and sell the Durango. The charger did have some front-end issues. I brought it to A&B and then look at it. There's just a loud clunky noise and they try to diagnose it and diagnose them, they're pretty sure it's the struts. They said it'd be about $600 to fix the struts in. Obviously we're gonna use the proceeds for the sale of the charger to help offset the new squad car. I don't know how much we'll get for the Durango. It's really rusted out bad in the last several months. I think it's still worth something, but it's in pretty rough shape. I guess with your blessing, that's what I would like to do, is to keep the charger in solid or angular. **[49:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I think it's just consensus we need with this. I just, you got consensus. **[49:22] Police Chief Bryce:** Had our radars calibrated, or we did have an old radar unit that is not working properly in our old squad car. The company would not certify it, so it's at the end of its life. and the hotels are looking for, you can get a used or refurbished radar for a lot cheaper than a new one. So, I'll be on the lookout for one of those. We put on a robbery prevention and kind of an informational class to our local banking institution employees and about over 50 people come to the class. We put two different classes on and it's really well-attended and they really appreciate it so we do that at the depot convention center. Again nice thank you letter from Chris Labonte from the credit union. Another nice letter I just want to read for Innocent in the hospital. "I'd like to recognize and thank Moose Lake Police Department specifically Officer Matt Lingie for his assistance on Friday March 11th at Mercy Hospital. The situation involved a potentially aggressive family member of a patient involved in a potential volatile situation. We nurses were uncomfortable and did not feel safe with this family member. He had shown signs of aggression such as yelling at nursing staff, hostile body language, refusing to allow staff in the patient room and other red flag behaviors the night before I came on duty. The nursing staff felt necessary to always have two nursing staff go to this patient's room because of his behavior and threatening language. He reportedly had some mental health issues of which I do not know the details. I called 911 and asked for the Moose Lake Police Department to come to the hospital so the situation could be explained and also so the police department was aware that there was a potentially dangerous situation. Officer Wendy arrived promptly I briefed him on the situation, background, and upcoming. I'm sorry. Officer Lindy was present throughout the morning, rounding for a goalie and making his presence known. In the afternoon, Officer Lindy spent hours at the hospital talking this man down and keeping a potentially dangerous situation from escalating. I've been involved in similar situations that have always had the potential for dangerous outbursts and have felt afraid. I do not want to feel afraid at work. Officer Linky was awesome, staying calm and maintaining a rapport with this man and eventually assuring that the man left the facility peacefully. We were nurses on duty that day truly appreciate the Moose Lake Police Department and Officer Linky. He allowed us to feel safe enough to do our work, which is caring for our patients. I know that the Moose Lake Police Department responds to situations in the Emergency Department as well. We are so fortunate have officers who are able and willing to intervene to keep our patients and families and staff safe" and that's from Alison Horton our registered nurse so I just want to share that with the public—it's always nice to hear a job well done and we do deal with a lot of very difficult people that a lot of people aren't aware of. With springtime here at to be real busy and it just seems that you just deal with a lot of strange people this time of year habitually. So I guess that's about all I have. **[52:50] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do pass the hand view on from the council. Yeah. We picked your up over there. Thank you. Thank you. Would you have to report if there's one, two, three, four, five, 209 total calls—so a lot of work there. Thank you, Bryce. Appreciate it. Moving on to 4B. Steve is the data over here. The gentleman might want to do this door because it isn't here. Thank you. Thank you. Under 4B, city engineer, which we did. Brian has completed that. Mr. Mayor. I'll consider paying the Schmidt family for electric connection easement. Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Brian had me contact the Schmidt family about getting an easement parallel to that existing easement that we need to provide service to the wastewater ponds. The Schmitts have requested $1,000 for their, I'll call it inconvenience, of getting the whole family to sign the easement. There's like six signatures that are needed on that easement. So I'm bringing it to council. If we got it appraised and we had the city attorney look at it, I think it would end up being more than $1,000. I don't have the authority to tell them I'll give them $1,000. **[54:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I understand. Council, do we have a motion? This will come out of the project, right? **[54:15] Brian (SEH Engineer):** Yes, Brian said that there's money in the project for the easement. **[54:20] Council Member Kris Huso:** I'll make that motion. **[54:22] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do I have a second? **[54:23] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll second. **[54:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any further questions, discussion? All in favor say aye. **[54:28] Council Members:** Aye. **[54:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Moving down into 5B Lakeshore Drive Street project, no update. Number C, Moose Lake Wastewater Treatment Facility upgrade. We have no update. 5D Park Place Drive, no new information. We're still waiting for the final. **[54:50] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I will stop you there. I did get an email from A1 Contracting requesting to set up a meeting to try and scope out what we want to get done. I think it's April still a little early to do that. Our inspector's gonna be up the end of this week or the beginning of next week and he's gonna take his shots again, survey shots, to see if the road moves since the last time he took them last October, I think it was. That'll give us an idea if we can plot up to see if it's still moving or not. I think it's pretty well-settled out now. I would think in June we'll get that all scoped out and get that repaired. But that was a good sign that the contractor did email us and say I want to get this faxed. So. **[55:45] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Thank you. Moving on to E, Highway 73 Project W. Consider bids to televised sewer lines and leave us some information, email Roberta Dreyer, which must be—is it 356 or 58? Phil and Spencer must have got these prices to televise the sewer line out there, and they got two prices. The first price was $1.56 per foot plus mobilization of $570 per day. And it looks like they're planning to be out there at probably two days. So the $1.56 per foot over the 3,450 feet would be $5,382. Plus, if they got all done in one day, it'd be $570. Otherwise, it would be $11.40 on top of that. The second bid looked more favorable to me was the total price for cleaning and televising of $4,760. So I would recommend that we go with Great Lakes Pipe Service. That's who we've been using up in Two Harbors and they're happy with the work they get done up there. Any question by the council, interaction? **[57:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** No, it doesn't mention the reporting here, but there's gonna be electronic video and then a paper report. **[57:15] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I didn't request the quote, but the standard is they have software in the van that they create those paper reports right while they're televising it. It's pretty slick. **[57:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** We get the DVDs. **[57:27] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Okay, so as we know that that's part of it, because we need that history. Yep, the price we're getting, the 69 and 67 cents, that's right in line with what I paid last year for work in Hinckley and then the work that was done up in Two Harbors. That looks like a fair price. **[57:45] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Mayor, I just have one other question. You know, we're looking at, or infiltration, there's some grant dollars there. And that's what I was looking at. Will any of those grant dollars can go to help us with this or in that code that you had. It's in here someplace, I can't remember what page it was. **[58:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I briefly talked to Brian and I'm gonna call him tomorrow to get that cleared up a little bit more. He wasn't there. So you're duplicating, I think you're supposed to be in that project in a firm. Get it out of there so we're not duplicating it. I can see that. My concern, so. Which grant dollars are we talking about? Which, or what? For the infiltration study? Okay, just, we were just talking just infiltration. Yep, okay. I'll double check Mr. Mayor with Brian tomorrow. We didn't want to talk all about him here tonight. And then, to answer the council member's question, I'll make sure that we're getting a written report and a video on DVDs, but that is real standard in the industry that we would get those. **[58:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Well, in saying that, then I so move that we accept the Great Lakes Pipe Service Incorporated bid of $4,760, and that is to clean and to televise the line on the Sioux Hill under 73. Again, to have a written report and a digital report also. **[59:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, do we have a second? **[59:17] Council Member Kris Huso:** Open for questions. Okay, the area that the street department, the committee, agreed to do—it's you're talking about the Sioux Hill sewer line only. **[59:30] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** That's correct. **[59:31] Council Member Kris Huso:** Not along 73—nothing on 73. **[59:35] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No just the Sioux Hill at 3,500 feet or whatever it is you have 3,500 linear feet that would only cover the Sioux Hill. **[59:45] Council Member Kris Huso:** Does that run down it switches over someplace right it was down Sioux Hill and switch it one side of the highway to the other, 73? Or is that? **[59:55] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Oh, that goes straight down on the right-of-way of the highway. 73 going out towards the hospital, off from the lights to the hospital. I think most of that sewer is off to the side of the road. **[01:00:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And that's all new. And our concern was you know, on that hill, there was a lot of infiltration up there. We can see if there's any more, because it's in the same trench as our water line. It's below the water line, so if we've got other shutoffs or whatever leaking there, maybe it'll show, as we said, the pumping, it won't show unless the pump's running. Maybe it'll show where the pipe has collapsed, and we're gonna have to base it in there. And so that's, it'll probably behoove us to do those things then prior to the 73 construction if there's damage to that pipe. Otherwise, I believe the plan is just to let it, if there is nothing wrong with the pipe, just to let it go and then there's some manholes that we'll have to upgrade. But then in the future would be to line that pipe if there's damage and then we don't to worry about tearing up the road again to reline it. So it's kind of a stab in the dark type thing here, but hopefully there'll be nothing wrong. That's what we're all looking for. Very good. Any other questions? All in favor say aye. **[01:01:25] Council Members:** Opposed? Motion carried. **[01:01:28] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Number 5F, local road improvement funding, upgrade on meeting with Patty Loken and John McDonald, MnDOT, and Steve was at that meeting also besides myself and Gene. **[01:01:45] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Mayor? One other thing. Update everybody there was the shutoffs we're talking about if everybody's familiar with that each homeowner or business on those highways they have water shut off and some of them may be be de-alvinized which don't last very long and some of them have been replaced with brass there's 32 I believe we're reporting for water the street department of possible shutoffs and how many are brass or de-albuminized, I'm really not sure on that. Do you have any of them? **[01:02:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We have a little conflicting right now and... **[01:02:28] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Did you get any information at all, Steve? **[01:02:30] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I got the, from Phil, I received a text that said there's 32 services that were suspended. I'm guessing the other two probably were changed out. What he had probably, it should be accurate. 34 was the number of the total number. And I would imagine through the years, two had been replaced. So 32 should be pretty accurate. **[01:03:00] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So in saying that, possibly we will have to replace those. Because they're going to go anyhow with a that we don't have to pay for replacing the sidewalk or the blacktop at this time. And I think Steve has recommended us to really look at that. That's all I have. Do you have any idea, Steve, on replacing each one? You know, digging up a place to take them out. Like it would be a couple hundred each, a thousand each, or any idea? **[01:03:35] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** It depends on the lane, and it it's kinda—this is one where I would ask him to tell me what he would charge to do if there's—if there was 32, I think we would get a really good price for doing it. If there's just one, it would be higher per each. **[01:03:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Does this fall back in the land over here? It'd be right on our water line. that you shut up. I have to ask, I gotta ask this question because I don't think I've asked it here. Is it the city's, does the city own, or does the property owner own the service from the house all the way to the main or to the curb stop? Because it varies in every city I work in. **[01:04:30] Phil Entner (City Supt):** To the curb stop. **[01:04:32] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** To the curb stop. I hadn't asked that and Tim said that is city had put those in those galvanized shutoffs and and then from the curb stop in was the property owner. Okay, just so city owns the main and there's a tap on the main and then it runs normally to the property line and then there's a valve put in with a round we call it a box but it's really a round pipe and then the city guys can take a rod and go down in there and turn the service on or off. And some cities own the service out to the curb stop and including the curb stop. And then the property owner owns it from therein and that sounds like the case here. Some cities don't own any of it. **[01:05:25] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Well I know when I changed it, we changed it until the city didn't pay for it. out to the main? Because I was told we have it from the main, we own it from, to the curb stop. **[01:05:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, but who owns the curb stop? Well, let's say whatever, the hookup on the main and into the curb, into the curbs, that was the city's. The valve itself. And that's what would be changing, is the valve. I mean, that would—No, not bad. It's out on the main line. It's out on the main line. It's between the belt and... **[01:06:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Mr. Mayor, what Phil had mentioned to me was that the service, instead of being constructed—I'll use the lead word—years ago they were lead services, then they switched to either galvanized or copper. So nowadays we use all copper or HDPE. So if it's galvanized, they don't last as long as copper. Copper should last forever. And even the lead, and I hate to use that, but it's not—if you're treating your water correctly, lead water services aren't, they're fine. So if the road's gonna get redone and there's galvanized services, what Phil's concern is is that we're not gonna get those will fail within the next 20 years and we'll be digging up the new road prior to the road getting fixed again. So. **[01:06:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** It just makes sense to confirm that information and go out for bids on those. It just makes sense. It would be nice to know who is responsible for that curb stop though. Must be in our ordinance or something there. **[01:07:15] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Normally—normally the city owns the curb stop if you either don't own any of it or you own up through the curb stop because the curb stop years ago—the reason we put them in is you'd say you could turn off somebody that doesn't pay their water bill without going in their house and without it takes a that special key then it's a five-sided nut on the can. The city has that. **[01:07:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** The city has those tools. **[01:07:42] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** A property owner can still get in it, but you most likely wouldn't have a seven-and-a-half-foot-long pronged rod that you can turn. That's why they did it. **[01:07:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I never asked if you turn water services off here or you just certify it to taxes if they don't pay their water bill. Like if there's a break, the city comes out and turns it off. You know, like the basement has sprung a leak, whatever, or whatever. If the house is sold, they're sitting like after the flood, the city turned the water off. And when I asked the contractor who's done most of the work here, he said that's been the city's traditionally. The city has owned that, and the city has to put them in and replace them. **[01:08:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Definitely we can confirm that. **[01:08:40] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** I'm going to be coming up on Friday and I think I need to meet with Phil and talk to him a little bit more and Spencer about what we're dealing with and make sure that what the count is and then try and get an estimate for the council. **[01:08:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Don't feel it. Talk to Tim Goble also. He's been doing his work in this area for 30 years. **[01:09:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Absolutely. Contractor we've used. He and Spencer probably won a single job that neither one of them had worked on. **[01:09:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** Excuse me, Mr. Mayor? I think one of our counselors need to leave in a bit, so could we jump to the new business and discuss that stuff? **[01:09:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Did you have anything else, Steve, on real quick—we did meet with Patty Loken and I don't know Mr. Mayor if you updated the rest of the council at this point. No that was for this meeting and well we did have that special meeting and I did inform them we do have another year and also I explained the matching and I think everybody understood it we have the maximum amount of the grant and we're still waiting to hear from you. How much the project could cost and which roads we would determine and what she suggested being Kenwood and Earl Allens and about Third Street looking at just a regular city project instead of the state, going by state standard. That's what she suggested, but I think it's up to the council to say these are, we kind of asked if we could do two out of the three. And we did not—I heard that we could. We just have to kind of package it up correctly, which was really good news, I think. So we're still reviewing what those, what I'm gonna give the council is you have the numbers that were done for the application with bringing all three streets up to state aid standards. South Kenwood had fabric put in and really a true improvement. How could we do those three streets less than state aid standards but still that they'll last 15 to 20 years, I think is what I need to show the council. And then the council can decide want the money to do two out of the three or don't want the money so probably should go as close to the dollar amount that we can on the 750,000 which probably is the minimum state standards she said they had to be within that state standard but there's that wide range correct yeah thank you Steve I think I explained of all that we need. On looking, that was the next item actually, Chris, was to look at what items do we need to make decisions on before the council has to leave. Council's government. You have to leave at 8 o'clock? That was the plan, yes. I guess I would like to jump to the new business and then we can go back to any updates or okay hiring timeline new city administrator this is 5I will jump down to there and we're looking for setting up a meeting she suggested April 20th at five o'clock. **[01:12:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** April 20th is a Wednesday. I'm good at that. **[01:12:05] Council Member Kris Huso:** 6 p.m.? I think he works until 6 p.m. **[01:12:10] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I'm not at 6 p.m. You're not? Yeah, not at 6 p.m. **[01:12:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** So could you come after? Or would another day be better? That'd be fine. I'll see you in the committee after 6. **[01:12:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And if not, then we'll email out to everybody. We have the 20th at what time? 5? **[01:12:35] Council Member:** 6. **[01:12:36] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Excuse me 6 p.m. number eight administrative committee hiring recommendation public work skill labor one position Jordan Jusak. Myself, Phil and Spencer, and then overall all the job applications for the position, there were 18. And we put them through a matrix with skills and, you know, if they had a Class A, which we required, and it was determined that Jordan Jusak was the most qualified and best choice for this position. Jordan is currently a highway maintenance worker for Pine County Highway Department. He's passed a background check and has a valid Class A license with a clean driving record. past experience working for Decagni excavating, installing and repairing safety and water. And the committee recommends hiring Jordan for this position. Open for the council discussion, motion. **[01:13:55] Council Member Kris Huso:** I still move that we hire Jordan Jusak for the project. Board of course position. **[01:14:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do I have a second? **[01:14:06] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll second that. **[01:14:08] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Open for discussion, questions? **[01:14:10] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** My only concern is we didn't go through the interview process. **[01:14:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We did check with Marguerite and she said we didn't have to. **[01:14:18] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I know that, but I don't want to set us up for, you know, I think, I'm not against hiring him, but I would like to see him in the top three get interviewed with something. You know, I'm pretty sure he's probably the one that's... **[01:14:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Right, right. I guess they were kind of on a time crunch. **[01:14:40] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Well, we're not really on a time crunch because May 15th was the starting date. **[01:14:45] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Yeah, I think that's the only other thing is that I guess if, you know, I think that you did a great job where Chris was involved in going through the process and putting together a matrix and I don't think that's in question at all. I think you probably have the best candidate for the job. I would just, I guess, or look at the future that we have a set process and stick with it for every position. Even though it might create a little bit more work, I think it gives a little more validity to the process that we have, that's all. I appreciate the efforts that you guys put in, getting a very good candidate for the job. **[01:15:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** And I don't think that it was a question of more work, it was just this candidate was and above the other candidates, and he basically was doing the job as it was. So that's why we made a call to Margarette to find out if we could go that process or if we were required to invite with. That's why we chose to go that role. **[01:16:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And it is more of an entry-level position too, I see in that aspect. But for our top positions, I think that we obviously would do this for higher positions. I myself feel like we should do, I think we should interview for every position, interview for a part-time. And it depends on the department, like part board, part-time in a park, we don't. Part-time at the uni, we have not. We have ever done it. Some of the jobs we have. So it's kind of, it's a department thing also. We have done some departments do, will do the hiring with the personnel committee and or administrator. Some administrators have done it differently than others also. **[01:17:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** And it also brings up the—I brought up last month when we had Phil Etner at a meeting that we were talking about hiring Phil Etner. I found that to be extremely inappropriate. So we had Phil Etner at a meeting that we hired Phil Etner at. We were discussing about hiring Phil Etner at a meeting. We had somebody there sitting in on the meeting that we're discussing them. I found a problem. **[01:17:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** They have to be open. That's the problem. They're an open meeting. We have asked that before and we've got the answer that we can't close them for that. It seems strange, but yeah. Any further questions, discussion? All in favor say aye. **[01:17:55] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:17:56] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? **[01:17:57] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** No. **[01:17:58] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Very good. Carried. Moving on to number B approve hiring lifeguard Sam Coyle, Thomas Hanson, Alex Ken and Moore for the 2016 season and that's the recommendation to work. **[01:18:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** Yes we'll just basically mean we had six lifeguards three of them aren't coming back the other three that are left would like to just soak up those hours and double them money. And it's, Joel checked with the Red Cross, the one who teaches it, and she said it was fine. There would be too many hours for him. And I think it's kind of nice, you know, that we don't have to hire more, we don't have to train more. **[01:18:45] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I do to a point, but what happens if two of them are sick. **[01:18:50] Council Member Kris Huso:** You know, I did ask that. And we do have to have one 18-year-old. There's one, I think he's 17. And they always have to be within 18. And they're in there. **[01:19:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I think there always has to be two on it. **[01:19:08] Council Member Kris Huso:** Right. And they did ask that. And they said, well, right now, if the weather is bad, they close down. So maybe if somebody got sick, they just not close down with the Protestant and the life got on duty and they just don't work. You know? **[01:19:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I'm just worried about what I was looking for. **[01:19:28] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I build the nice days. **[01:19:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** What's that? **[01:19:32] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** The nice hot days, you know, with two of them are sick and then, so we're gonna say there was no other interest though? **[01:19:40] Council Member Kris Huso:** Um, you know, I don't really know what that is. We didn't advertise because of this. Because they were interested in filling them and they thought, you know. **[01:19:50] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** And this was an afterthought in my part. Right. You know, about them to have two in there. **[01:19:55] Council Member Kris Huso:** Sure, sure. And I did think about that. And I did ask that question and that's why I said, well, you know, and we have another one and they say, well, you know, right now if the weather's bad, you know, just put up a sign that says no one got out in the year or whatever. **[01:20:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Could we possibly check to see if there's any other interest in there? And then it comes, you know, then you have to put the ad over again and then. **[01:20:20] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Well, then the only problem is we're cutting the clothes down and basically we're going to say that we'll pay them 3x a moment—or somebody else who can't cut their pay. **[01:20:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** The park board recommended it, right? Did this go to them? **[01:20:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** We discussed it. **[01:20:36] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Did we make a recommendation to do three at the last meeting? **[01:20:40] Council Member Kris Huso:** Yeah, there was no... We really didn't discuss at the last meeting. It was discussed, and there was no—no further comments. No. There was no problem with it. If it creates a problem, we'll move for next year, the wheel of three, we go four, and then we... **[01:21:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Mayor, I do move that we accept the three written year for the 2016 season as lifeguards, and it's a problem. I'm sure the park will come back to us if we need somebody else to get them. **[01:21:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Second? **[01:21:17] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I'll second. **[01:21:18] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All in favor say aye. **[01:21:19] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:21:20] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Motion carried. Members see you approve hiring Mari Voss part-time and event bartender at the Muni. Committee members that are involved with it. **[01:21:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** Well it did come up quickly. And there was someone had a medical and someone else had a planned vacation and they needed somebody right away, including a monthly-fulfilled physician. So Mari came recommended by someone. And she did pass a background check. There won't be a lot of hours. It's just more right now they need someone. **[01:22:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I think we have one employee that will be gone for how long? **[01:22:05] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I'm not sure. We don't know yet. maybe six weeks. **[01:22:10] Council Member Lou Ohly:** And I don't have a problem with this, but in our committee we've been stressing that he hired people for this exact reason. You know. **[01:22:20] Council Member Kris Huso:** Right, and we've asked for resumes that we've had. That we see the resumes also. **[01:22:25] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Bring that back to committee then. Well I will recommend we hire her in terms because they are short if we need to do something. **[01:22:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do we have a second? **[01:22:36] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I'll second it. **[01:22:38] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, just for discussion, so the committee then is going to address whatever... We will attempt to. All in favor say aye. **[01:22:50] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:22:51] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Okay, carried. Doug, I don't know if you'll skid through, there's other ones, is there any that you, your time limit I guess looks like every one of them we're going to make decisions on I mean keep going down the list or you're sure all right thank you see consider researching new banners for light poles as you know the ones we had have been tearing up so bad year after year but just want to look at if there's a different type out there or a different way of doing it and just get the consensus from the council. Nothing to be spent now. This is informational. This is what you can find. Thank you. Number E, boiler for historical society. **[01:24:00] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Mayor, members of the council. Excuse me. Steve from the Historical Society asked me to come take a look at his boilers. The Seattle guys being in the water is in the Navy. We have boilers on there so we can. It's a unique setup that shouldn't last for quite a few years. But the problem we have there is the electronic controllers, boilers for the pumps, are all direct wired to the panels, the electrical panels. And electronics do this—not like interruptions or spikes in the power grid. And with an uninterrupted power source, it would smooth out those setups and the batteries inside will to actually condition the power to prevent burnout of the controllers. In my understanding, controllers were like $2,300 each. But there's three of them there. And a normal UPS unit of that size would be around, we just bought some at the power plant, they were like $1,500. Not have to go that size but some to look at read that extra expenditure because last Sunday was up some blips on the power grid and electronics does not like those blips—but some who's something considered down over here prevent those like an isolation and also like a conditioner so it stays at a stage voltage. **[01:25:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yes sir. **[01:25:37] Phil Entner (City Supt):** And then they have batteries inside those and I would look at a unit with what's called hot-spot bolt where you can just, inside there's a switch where you can go right to the power source and pull out the batteries because they have to be changed out every two years and put the new batteries back in. But like I said, they're looking at around $1,100 to $1,500 per unit that would cover all three of those boilers. And that's some expensive gear to have. **[01:26:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Be cheap insurance on that. Mr. Mayor? How old is this boiler? Do you place it that long ago I thought? **[01:26:25] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I don't know if we've ever, yes we did with a grant or something. **[01:26:30] Council Member Kris Huso:** Yeah it wasn't too long ago. **[01:26:32] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I guess I'm wondering why it was put in that way. A good thing. **[01:26:35] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Well, for doing a retrofit, it would be more expensive, I think. But I'm not a boiler technician. But I've been down to the engine room a few times with boilers. It's kind of a different setup than what I would put in. But it is what it is. But you've got to protect your active electronics in there, because it is expensive. **[01:27:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** No one will lose that. You're spending $1,500 to save $7,000 worth of electronics. Has that been a problem to burn out on the controllers? **[01:27:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** You also have to take those in there and have an electrical engineer look at those. I'd be very suspective of that, what's happening. You get fluctuations and there's no way we can percent of the time to have perfect power. I'm just wondering since it's not that old of why that was put in and put in that way. **[01:27:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I understand what I'm talking to Steve. Some of the things were put in back—the check bills were put in back. There were some huge issues there. It wasn't put together. So at this point this is informational or we they're requesting action but I guess this was part of the original quote he said when Pat was still here to get this whole system—that's what we were told last year. This thing should be gold-plated for what we put into this thing. So this was cut off of last year's? Well, that's, let's see, is there a detone? I don't know who's going to ask it on. Yeah, I think it's Steve's now here. Let's see. Well, the 183-2015 proposal that one is to replace the failing controller. So we're looking at protecting the controller from going down right now. That's what we're looking at, right? An up system that would protect the system from power bumps and from, it could be electricity, I mean a lightning hit. A lightning hit goes by and will knock those right out. **[01:28:55] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Yeah, I see. But we're also looking for approval of this quote and then also get it to UPS unit. **[01:29:05] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Either UPS unit or else an isolator. **[01:29:08] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Well, that's in that quote that I get from the one that's dated. Is that on page 60? **[01:29:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** No. Page 60, it's replace failing Bridgetree boiler plant controller, the individual boiler controller. The upgrade pricing includes two additional 926 Boilet Control upgrade kits as well as previous quoted $1,200 repair for Boiler 3. So the total is that, and it's the same total as we have from down here. **[01:29:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, from the trees. It's the same. It sounds like repair what's messed up right now, and what you're talking about would be a unit to control to pretend this from happening again. Is that in this bullet? Have you seen this bullet? So the research would be, so right now we're just looking at fixing what's broken now, and you're suggesting to look at some kind of isolator to protect it from power bumps like lightning hit or whatever. Gotcha. How much do you figure that would be? Roughly. **[01:30:15] Phil Entner (City Supt):** About $1,500. **[01:30:16] Mayor Jim Michalski:** For three units? **[01:30:17] Phil Entner (City Supt):** Yes sir, just one unit. **[01:30:19] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Just one unit. Okay, that's better. Well I guess it's the first item then is the repair of the current boiler situation. **[01:30:30] Council Member Lou Ohly:** My other question, we allocated so much money up there to re-widen that driveway. That's gonna be part of the state. That never got done, so there is this money, that money should be—the state is gonna do it now. There's somewhere, correct? When you said allocated money. We approved it. We approved money for widening the driveway. That was last year. It was like 3,000. We would be approving a new expenditure to fix the garbage. I don't mean a boiler is a major thing. We have to fix it. I just, at some point though, I just wonder where all this, where it's gonna end and why it wasn't put in correctly to begin with. I mean, did not use a reputable—I believe that was the issue that the person that installed it was not a commercial installer. something that it was more of a residential installer and then he went out of business and then he went out of business and then they're stuck with us and that's exactly why you took it over from them. **[01:31:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yes but your question so—so I'm confused here a little bit but I don't see anything saying labor here—is this labor the repairs it's just parts or is this labor? **[01:31:50] Council Member Kris Huso:** Could it's everything on this. **[01:31:55] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay and to put in that here isolation preventer to that's totally separate this is a recommendation from Phil looking at it there's no labor costs there just fifteen hundred dollars and then to the cell that we'd have to lose some wiring to you mean power coming into the unit after going to docks and then electrician that would have to hire additional costs. You know, not necessarily if you're a... **[01:32:30] Phil Entner (City Supt):** You wouldn't have to use that to put your own upsend. Anybody could put an upsend. **[01:32:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah. You get in the license code there, Mr. Mayor. I hate that. I don't know, but that's power past the panel. Because you can blow most of you gotta have a license personnel in the—this is just going this is from All right now is there where you're right? So you're gonna be in the panel so you need electrician for that part of it anymore. Watch the sparks. So we leave that up to them working with And Jim? **[01:33:15] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Well, I think we have to pay for getting this boiler fixed because we at least have to get the boiler fixed. So I'll make a motion that we spend $3,220 and get the boiler fixed, boiler 3 fixed. **[01:33:30] Council Member Kris Huso:** Okay, you had something that just suggested that we're looking to up system. **[01:33:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And get a vote for an up system waiver to include installation of the system. I have a second. **[01:33:40] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I'll second. **[01:33:42] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Any further questions? All in favor say aye. **[01:33:44] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:33:45] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I'm familiar with these kind of, you have something put in professionally and sometimes it's... Next, consider donation request for its Finnish Methodist Church Memorial Committee. Do we have a... 64. 64 from Dan Reed. "Dear sir, the first Finnish Methodist Church in the United States Monument Project Committee is pleased to announce that basic work on the site in stone have been completed. Scores of people have on the beauty of the stone and how it was added to the cultural treasures of our area. This work is not done to financial support of the area, township, city, businesses, community. The regional organizations have made all this possible so far. We need to be sure to promote the site during the year and educate visitors to our area. An information board with stand is being considered for the site to explain the detail and the importance of this particular historical benchmark and how into the threat of the American experience. We as a committee are asking for $150 from you to finance this effort in the next steps we take on this project. Thank you for all you do for our community, Dan Reed, First Finnish Methodist Church Memorial Committee." Council? **[01:35:10] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Did we know what we previously did? **[01:35:12] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We didn't, we didn't. No, we told them—we were in the process of setting up the board or the handling committee or whatever, handling ordinance. **[01:35:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I'll throw it out there. I so move that we, out of the donation fund, donate $150 to the Finnish Methodist Church site. **[01:35:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do we have a second? **[01:35:37] Council Member Kris Huso:** I'll second. **[01:35:38] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do we have any further questions, discussion? **[01:35:42] Council Member Kris Huso:** Of reaching out of our area, but I feel it does have significant value. I have a problem giving anything outside of the city and doing it myself. But I know that the Hockey Association is a regional organization, but we're taking money away from that organization by doing it, so that just kind of bothers me. **[01:36:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All in favor, say aye. **[01:36:12] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:36:13] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? **[01:36:14] Council Member Kris Huso:** Aye. **[01:36:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** 108 Sturgeon Lake Area Lions donation for Audubon Center Animal Program. Mr. Mayor? **[01:36:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Yes. I just wanted to mention, because I don't think we've ever mentioned it, that every year, speaking about the area, the Sturgeon Lake Lions donate this amount of money so we can have an animal program down in the park. 24th of July. It's usually a bird show, but I think last year because of bird flu or something, they did another type of animal. wanted me to recognize because they do give every year this is current four six sixteen this is for sixteen yep and it's five hundred and five dollars which is any questions comment by the council it's really nice to have something positive in here thank you very much thank you. **[01:37:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Moving on to high cost estimates on rain gardens. Let's see here. Are they in the, so we gotta close this. Do we have that here? Short Drive and, okay. This is something I talked to Steve, he's not here, he left tonight—Steve, I don't know if that was at another meeting or the Council of the Hope where he said just look at a contractor, local contractor, instead of look at the engineering. He said we could do this as an engineer, but it's gonna cost so much where if you have a contractor that has done storm water, ponds, and has the experience, that's all that you need. So I asked him for informational bid and or action. It's up to the council on this one. I had a look at both sites, the one on Lakeshore Drive and also on Second Street. And this is the two bids he brought, the one on Lakeshore Drive: Installed a new rock trench to drain water into the pond. And that goes back behind Betty's home. And also that large—is that Traders? Lakeside Traders. From there and also behind her, there's blacktop almost right up to our easement. So it was from our easement draining into the lot, that's what the installed rock trench and drain water upon 100 feet long, build one new retention pond, 30 by 40, lined with rip-rock, riprap rock, installed drain to Lakeside or Lakeshore Drive, re-grade oaks, a lot to drain upon. So there's not only a lot to drain into it, but also into it. Now he suggested which the street department used if there's flooding that they put in, not the valve, but a ball, a muni ball. We know that, you know, everybody knows when it's gonna start to install one of those instead of putting in a shutoff. My question on this is how long did they propose to get it to the Lakeside Lakeshore Drive with the carrying up Lake Street Drive? He would go under the floor. This bid does include installed into Lakeside Lakeshore Drive. On the other one on Second Street, topsoil, re-graved lot to drain to existing catch basin, re-spread topsoil and seed with grass seed. And that's 3,678. I myself would like to take a little square a month until Doug can be here. I think the whole council will. Because it really can be done anytime in summer, I believe. **[01:40:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** I kind of agree because one of the neighbors there didn't want water standing. Rain gardens are where you have a root system that puts the water into the ground, I believe. So this is more of just a drain system. So I got some questions about where... **[01:40:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We had her there when Tim was there. I had her come out and talk about this just so the water moves away. If you do a rain garden, you're not guaranteed that water will move away. **[01:40:50] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I have no objections to tabling this, although I do want to see us move forward on it. **[01:41:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Oh, I agree. So we can close it out. I'm sure this spring, if we have a large rainstorm, the one on Second Street, they flood that. That's close again. Where's that going to go? There is a drain catch basin right at the corner of the lot. And what you would do is direct by excavation so that it all drains towards that. And that includes by the driveway. Right at the corner of the driveway and the lot to start towards that catch basin. So it's currently just graded wrong as to whether it's a problem. And the street can flow down and if it overflows, that area will go down that driveway through. That's fine. The other thing there—is a closure to that FEMA grant or is that something that's on another business? **[01:41:55] Council Member:** Yep. **[01:41:56] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, don't wait. Is part of that? No, no. This is just the—this would be the city's responsibility to put in and drain it. One other question on that Lakeshore Drive. Will there be standing water? **[01:42:15] Council Member Kris Huso:** On the Lakeshore? Well, when it, as it fills, as the water comes in, let's say in the fall, in the spring, when there's a big melt, would come in and stand, but that would do if you have a... **[01:42:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, it's gonna be there. I'm just, my question is if it's even relatively dry, is there gonna be standing water because that's my... You put the drain right at the level of the bottom of the pond going to the, underneath the lake. If you put a garden, it would be standing water. But it wouldn't hurt the alliance. And I guess how much work would be to, how much upkeep would be in that little pond if you get there? Because this could be city work. **[01:43:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Well, I guess I don't like the thought of standing water there with kids playing and you know. **[01:43:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Both of them are. I think there's probably a lot of standing in both of them now. The idea, you know, there would be standing water that would drain out on both of them, that's the idea. If you do the garden, they don't necessarily drain out. Jay, I'm gonna do all the new business and then go back to the previously discussed. Go down to Jay, consider preparing by Bob Minnesota Dotsville Excavade City to purchase parts and supplies in an approximate cost of $3,000. Yes? It was a little bit more than $3,000. It was going to be $15,000. **[01:43:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Now it's $15,000. **[01:43:57] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah. And after the first discussion was just to use that beauty ball and talking with Phil today we go with the muni ball, we wouldn't do any of this. And they would just have to watch it as it floods. And it may flood every year, it may flood every five years. Purchase. **[01:44:20] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I think that'd be the way to do. The muni ball's, can you think, $500? **[01:44:25] Phil Entner (City Supt):** $1,015, he wasn't exactly sure. But maybe we should get permission to purchase one, just to have it on the email. **[01:44:35] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We should look at, yeah. What did we use this spring, though? **[01:44:40] Phil Entner (City Supt):** I think we borrowed one. We borrowed the ladder. I know what was the wastewater guys that were here to have one for some reason. And that's the exact same thing we were talking about getting. **[01:44:55] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I'll make a motion that we purchase a muni ball to have on hand. **[01:45:00] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do we have a second? **[01:45:01] Council Member Kris Huso:** I'll second it. **[01:45:03] Mayor Jim Michalski:** The only question is then at some point if we do the gardens when we do any training, we'd want to pick up another one. And they're different sizes. They're different sizes. So we should maybe... the one for... the one now would be definitely for the one down at Bob's end of town. All in favor, say aye. **[01:45:30] Council Members:** Aye. **[01:45:31] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Go back to five and I believe we are we completed D we completed E F was the update which I told everybody and I think everyone understands that we have another year and we also don't have to match it and get them underneath the 7,500 so we're at G consider reimbursement for past HRA audit that was table—any discussion or action by the council? I think we should do something with that. **[01:46:05] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I think let's wait. I would like to see a little stone felt so bad. I thought we decided we were waiting on that until the administrator began. **[01:46:15] Mayor Jim Michalski:** But that could be all year. If we go back at least three years, I think that's what I recommended before, but I'll defer that to council. FEMA flood update painting projects. Do we have information on your... **[01:46:35] Council Member Kris Huso:** Mr. Mayor, I did get an email back from Pam Rubel. Uh-huh. And both down at the arena at the arena and the park. The park can use sentence to serve people and the arena wanted to use CIP. They were going to use AmeriCorps but I think they're gone already. We wanted to make sure that if we did that we could at least get reimbursed for the stain, the paint. and so she did email me today and she said as long as it's within the scope of work, that that would be fine. So in other words, if we don't over-paint or just do exactly what we would have done if we would have hired a contractor, we'll be fine. **[01:47:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay. That's fine. There was one other thing that I thought I saw, and you may want to check in, that is the iron fencing around Clemmings Memorial. I thought that steel fencing was part of the, to be replaced. I've got more each other here, but I'll check. I don't know. It's still kind of bent. It's not in the... 100%. It's got a weird twist to a name. That was my other question. Do you have a good dock out there too? Is that not correct? **[01:48:10] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** No. I believe the last recommendation we had was to leave it with the ASILs. And then the ramp, we're all done there. **[01:48:20] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I think that was approved. It'll be just that steel ramp. Possibly if it's in that FEMA write-up, and I thought it was, but the only reason I saw it is I saw some kids down there—Oh gosh, I think you're right. We should probably make sure on the pier, but I think the last I heard is we weren't supposed to do it. We didn't have to. **[01:48:45] Phil Entner (City Supt):** That's what I heard too. **[01:48:47] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We could maybe inquire to the DNR just to make sure we could as far as painting. **[01:48:55] Council Member Kris Huso:** As painting—I think they don't do their own. We did it that one year only because it turned so black on us. That was looking bad. And we asked them and they said you don't have to do it. We don't need any action. It's just we can use them. So I think consensus in the council just to use sentence to serve and CIP council does instead of favor and favor. Very good. we did the hiring timeline that was I and so we set up the meeting which she'll go over the top numbers she's gonna she's gonna give us the top and it'll be up to us to knock it down to accept the number that they have looking at what they came up with Jay building officials no applications—so I, we have to let the main, because we extended it to my side. **[01:50:00] Council Member Lou Ohly:** We extended it to May, okay. I can put a member of that out there. I don't think it's kind of, I think it's an ex-patient, it's just. **[01:50:10] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Well, just reappointing, and then maybe put that in September or something. Because he really didn't even apply, did he? **[01:50:18] Council Member Kris Huso:** Well, he didn't think he had to, because he's already been. He's already tired. **[01:50:22] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Yeah, and I agree with that too. Is the one person interested? **[01:50:28] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** Interested, but they're not licensed. **[01:50:30] Council Member Lou Ohly:** No. They're not interested. They're not licensed. They're not licensed. 5K, request to transfer certificate deposit from Emmer's Co-op Credit Union to Edward Jones, the First National Bank in July. Went up for renewal. Okay, so that's still stable to lend. Discussion on trail connection from Park Place Road to Munger Trail. Here's the update. We did get the approval from DOC that we could put an extension from—what is the name of the gentleman? **[01:51:10] Council Member:** Mr. Riley. **[01:51:11] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Riley, that John Riley Drive to the Twin Roads, we couldn't do that. However, we ran out of time to put the grant in, so it'll be next year. But at least we got that one step done, which we—I never got an answer on before. At this time we did it, so it said yes. They gave that to us in writing then? By email. You saved that. Kevin is actually by phone, like with Kevin. What? Mine, Kevin? Yes. You better get it right each. And act at all, James. Moving on to reports and correspondence, Mercy Hospital annual report 2015. We have page number 67. Information so anyone in the public who wants to get the Mercy Hospital annual report for 2015 can get it from the city office. The next report correspondence UMD economic development 24th annual Entrepreneurial Success Award invitation. That is on page 369. happens registered by April 15th. And the event is Wednesday, April 20th. So anyone in the council that is interested, contact Gene. Anyone first-quarter report, which is starting on page 71, informational only from the council. See some of this stuff has been involved with also technology classes. Have you had a couple of them, Steve? **[01:53:15] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** How's that going? **[01:53:17] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Good. Good participation? Yeah. **[01:53:20] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Yeah. Excellent. I probably could use that myself. iPads. **[01:53:28] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Minnesota Department of Health confirmation of receipt of amended wellhead protection program on page 73 and I don't think we need anything to worry about there. The one sentence of "City Moose Lake is commended for the efforts in amending their plan to protect their drinking water supply from contamination." That's the main thing for them. Moving on, the Blandin Foundation confirmation of grant funds. This is to confirm the Blandin Foundation grant payment of 5,000 authorized by the Board of Trustees of the Blandin Foundation. It was electronically transferred into the bank account of the city of Moose Lake on March 10th, 2016 to extend the Moose Lake community digital messaging systems and other community entities, to broadcast messages on the public. This is the final payment on this grant. We look forward to receiving your final report, which is due February 1st, 2017. If there are any changes to project or budget to sell, please call our office. Steve, do you have anything to add to the timeline? **[01:54:40] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No, we just got all the equipment, so we're gonna start to put it out. **[01:54:45] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay, very good. Then moving on, community and board minute meetings. Moose Lake Park Board minutes for March 7th, 2016. The Moose Lake Volunteer Fire Department District February 9th, 2016. I'd like to make a message if we have that. Just the number of fire runs—this is for the month of February. There was 30 calls. 22 medicals. Four dispatched, canceled. False alarms, one hospital gas leak, I guess that's what it's saying, one vehicle fire. So another very active month in February, thanks to the police chief and police, I mean the fire department. The next item looks like technology committee for March 24th, 2016. Any well noted in you want to give out to the council staff other than the grant that we just did? That's the main thing? **[01:55:50] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** We'll be broadcasting next month, council meetings. Looking forward to that. **[01:55:58] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** And this meeting will be broadcast? **[01:56:00] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** This weekend. **[01:56:02] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** This weekend? Okay. Are all the cameras up and working now? **[01:56:05] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No. **[01:56:06] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** And where we're at? **[01:56:08] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Nothing's changed since the memo I sent out. The main thing will be electricity to poles, correct? For, yeah, for the two intersection cameras. **[01:56:20] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay. Mr. Mayor? **[01:56:22] Council Member Lou Ohly:** Yes. I'd like to maybe the administrative committee to talk about meeting with MCD. And I think we have to set up a meeting. Out of the 80 cameras, how many are we expecting to have working this year? **[01:56:40] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No, there's not going to be 80, there's 27, I think, total. **[01:56:45] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So we're not going to go beyond 27? So I thought we purchased, we agreed to purchase 80. **[01:56:52] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No, it was $80,000. **[01:56:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So $80,000, but I thought there were $1,000 a camera. **[01:56:58] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** No. Some of them are close to three. **[01:57:02] Council Member Lou Ohly:** So I totally misunderstood that. Does the council understand that differently? Is it that when it was presented, we were talking $1,000 a camera? I know there's some more than that. And the one at the school is not. I think we'd almost be better off moving that to the park before we even put it at the school. **[01:57:30] Mayor Jim Michalski:** I think we wanted to test it at the site, correct? Building site to make sure everything works well, and then after then, it'll go where? To the park. **[01:57:40] Council Member Kris Huso:** To the park, okay. **[01:57:42] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And it should be up and running this next month? **[01:57:45] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Should have been a couple weeks ago. **[01:57:47] Mayor Jim Michalski:** And we're waiting on the? **[01:57:48] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** Nope, poles up. **[01:57:50] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Poles up? Okay. We're waiting on MCD? **[01:57:52] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** MCD again. **[01:57:55] Council Member Lou Ohly:** I was under impression we had a lot more cameras than that for 80,000. I thought we were talking at the discussion at the council, 1,000 a camera. And I know there was a few extra, there were more. But we're talking instead almost 4,000 a camera. If you include maintenance, I mean installation and getting operations, almost 4,000 a camera. Are you getting all that you were expecting, Bryce? **[01:58:25] Police Chief Bryce:** In 2021? **[01:58:28] Steve Aldrin (Fire District Chair/Engineer):** There's six that are still left to be put out. **[01:58:32] Police Chief Bryce:** Yeah, we're very excited to have the intersectional ones. Those are kind of the ones that are more interested in. **[01:58:40] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Okay. So when that the committee meets, we'll make sure they'll come back to I'm just a deal while we're talking about committees and board minutes I think everyone is aware that of the email that Doug sent out last month I guess that already went by a month went by but I looked at the thing and then looking into how committees and boards are supposed to be run and looking at the mayor's handbook all the committees that have a city council member are supposed to be posted. We have been doing that for all the committees, so we have to do that from now on. No matter what the committee is, if there's a council member involved, it has to be posted, and if it's gonna be closed, it has to be posted ahead of time that it'll be closed. And I'll leave that up to the committees, how they're gonna run it from there. But that's just something that came out of that with the information he sent to me. So a little bit of a change on the committees—everybody needs to be aware of that if you schedule one and says council member involved with it you have to post it and I think it's normal posting is three days whatever city council or whatever normal posting is and if it's going to be a closed meeting it has to be posted as closed—is that for paper or just posted somewhere? **[02:00:10] Council Member Kris Huso:** Because all of our... **[02:00:12] Mayor Jim Michalski:** We have to post it at our official boards. Okay, okay. Because it's always posted on the website. Yeah, official, the official boards have to be, we have to post it on those. Any paper or any information at the, at any of these committees, if a public entity or private, you know, individual within the city wanted that information, they can request it. we have to give it out for whatever we give out at the committee. Just something that came out of that. Announcements: Regular Moose Lake City Council meeting Wednesday, May 11th, 2016 at 6.30, right here. Moose Lake Water and Light Commission, regular meeting Wednesday, April 20th, 4 p.m. in the conference room. Moose Lake Housing and Redevelopment Authority Board, Monday, May 9th, 11 a.m., Hillside Manor Office. Moose Lake Area Fire District, Tuesday, May 10th, 6.30, Emergency Response Center. Moose Lake Park Board, Monday, May 2nd, 6.30, right here. Library Board Meeting, Tuesday, April 21st, 4.30 p.m., the City Conference Room. Moose Lake Technology Committee, Tuesday, May 5th, at the conference room. Any other items from the council? Statements? If not, do I have a motion to adjourn? **[02:01:45] Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** I so move. **[02:01:47] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Do I have a second? **[02:01:48] Council Member Lou Ohly:** All second. **[02:01:50] Mayor Jim Michalski:** All in favor say aye. **[02:01:51] Council Members:** Aye. **[02:01:52] Mayor Jim Michalski:** Opposed? Okay carried.