City Council Formal Meeting - March 4, 2026
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theater opened its doors in 1929. Having hosted theater productions, concerts, comedy shows, movie premieres, high-profile speakers, and more, the Oreium Theater has shown versatility. And almost a century later, we ask, how could we transform the Oreium for the next generation? It starts with immersion. Taking a step back in time, we looked at the Orpheium's original handdrawn plans. They gave us context of a grand design and an intent to fully immerse the audience. An atmospheric garden oasis was beautifully created in this space. Surrounded by Spanish medieval baro style architecture, murals of mountains and forests under a deep blue dome sky. It was hailed an architectural and artistic marvel expressing modern theater at its finest. We were inspired to marry today's technology to that original intent. Taking a step forward, we gathered sounds that are true to Arizona. Mixing and layering hours of recordings, achieving realism to surround our audience. The dome sky is further brought to life where advanced lighting and visuals are meticulously synced to captured sounds. Witness dusk till dawn and the expanse of our universe. All this magic to honor the Orphium's original intent for audiences to lose themselves in this garden oasis and be drawn closer to the performance. These efforts are a nod to the Oreium's history and performances past, present, and future. As stewards of this historic space, we look forward to welcoming you and walking beside you. One step into history, one step into the future. My name is Destiny Sire. I'm a management assistant in the director's office of the human services department. The City of Phoenix Management Fellowship Program is a year-long program that allows folks with any uh graduate degree to come in and it's like an introductory program for folks looking to get into local government. Throughout the time you have three different rotations. Um, and you, it really just gives you a feel of what it's like to work in the public sector for those with limited experience before and to develop your leadership skills. You know, my background is largely in social work. So, I have my masters in social work and I have my masters in public administration. And so, I really wanted to get into macrolevel work. And it really allowed me to utilize both my social work skills and my public administration skills like to a tea, especially within this position and everything I was working on during my management fellowship. It was very enjoyable and like I am so grateful for it. Since it's been around for 75 years, you find prior fellows that have been here 25 years plus that started in the fellowship program and are like wanting to support you and hear you out and help you. Last year, the city of Phoenix and Mayor Kate Ggo, it was really important for them to focus on mental health. And so, us as a department had a community resource fair at our Travis L. Williams Family Service Center and we brought together over 20 uh agencies from around the community. We had over 200 people come to the resource fair to get resources. We were able to really cover it all and like had a really good turnout for the first time ever. So, it was very very neat. That was probably one of my favorite projects. I feel like the fellowship is is so unique where you don't need to come from a public administration background. What I think is important about the fellowship program is that it allows a a route for everyone to come in. No matter your background, you could still find your place in the city. And it's important that you do. I just really think the City of Phoenix Management Fellowship is so special for those that are looking to impact their community and it really puts you in a position to just keep on growing and learning more in your career, especially if you're looking to stay in local government. Um, so what I would say to someone that's applying is just to reach out. We're excited to talk to you, excited to have the community learn more about the program because we're really looking for everyone. We're looking for you. No. The city of Phoenix partner with a principal program pairs local leaders with school principles to spark ideas, build relationships, and create real impact for students across the city. And after a day in the life experience, everyone gathered at GCU to continue discussions on how to turn inspiration into action, building partnerships that strengthen our schools and future workforce. Here's a look at some of those partnerships. Last year was my first year of doing the partner with a principal program through the city of Phoenix and it led to a wonderful partnership um with at the outlet who ended up coming um to work with us and our students every Friday for at our family choice Friday. >> This was our first time being part of this program. We got to come and take a tour. Principal Schneck Claus told us some of the things that she was looking for and it seemed like we were a good match and a good fit and we got right to work. >> Students had wonderful opportunities through the arts whether it was palm, dance, vocal, drum line, but they build in a lot of life and social skills within their musical and arts instruction um that the students really benefited from and just absolutely loved the experience. >> They teach us dances. They um help us if we don't know, if we forget, they help us and help us until we actually know it. I think it's like good practice cuz I want to be like a singer and a dancer. And all the coaches were supportive and we always had like a performance in front of our parents and the school and it felt so good cuz they would clap for us. >> Once they start seeing that they're good at something, they start excelling at other areas as well because it helps boost their confidence. They weren't just working on the skills of the arts. They were also bringing in that social and character development throughout their instruction. And I think that's where those relationships truly get built. >> We get to actually practice what we preach, right? And then it's a win-win because we actually saw the difference it made for the students. It led to other opportunities. We were able to do a halftime show for the Rattlers and some of these students got to do that. >> I may not have known about At the Outlet, which is a nonprofit literally just right down the street. if I hadn't um applied for a partner with a principal. So, it really brings our eyes open to people right in the community, right in our neighborhood that want to support us and just as the school, we want to support them. I would encourage other businesses to get involved with the partner with a principal program so that you can see firsthand what's going on in our public school settings and be part of the difference that the students need. >> Thank you. Y >> Kitel came in today to do a beautifification project here at William R. Sullivan Elementary with the Murphy School District and they are painting our beautiful walls in the literacy hub. They're also doing an improvement with our bulletin boards with the different quotes. Not only does Kitchell want to be known as a great real estate company, but we want to be known as really a Phoenix institution that cares about those that we serve. >> They brought in the resources and everything that we needed, and it was done within a few hours. >> We really made quick work of our tasks that were ahead of us. We think classroom looks great. We like the bulletin boards and everything. Um, so yeah, overall, we're just really excited with how it turned out. >> I know that our students are going to love it. I could already imagine their little faces when they come in. >> The more resource that we have, the more resources that we're able to provide to our students to help them improve with their literacy, with their academics. So then our students um can get that additional support from our partnerships that we have. It's very important that we emphasize that the youth of today are the future leaders of tomorrow and therefore um we have to do all that we can to help make sure the kids have the right learning environment they need to succeed. This was a great opportunity to partner with the principal and it has been wonderful. I have been coming over to Vista College Prep. Now, it's been 1 year and it's been amazing working with Principal Roy. >> She immediately was so supportive and I'm not really sure what we can provide for you. And she was like, "No, it's not about me. What can we do for your school, for your team?" I know that some other corporations, they have like a lot of funding and that's available to create all these programs. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I would love to do that kind of stuff, but I don't have that." So, in talking to Principal Roy, I did say, "So, what do you guys need? Like, what can we do that's I guess inside of my my realm?" >> I said, "Our teachers are hungry all the time." Um, we love snacks. >> I said, "Snacks? Are you really?" She goes, "Yes, the teachers love snacks because they work long days, hard days, and they're not always able to just go break away and have a meal, especially if they're here, you know, late in the evening." And I said, "Well, wait a minute. Now we can do snacks. I solicited the help of the community like through LinkedIn, friends, family, Facebook. I'm like, "Look, look, these teachers need snacks. They're amazing. They're great." And everybody's like, "You know what? I'm donating because teachers do need that extra layer of love." And so it was so easy to get it. So we set up a a snack station in the leadership office. That's where it started. And then she said that she had some experience in public speaking and wellness. And I said, "The other thing that I really think my staff would appreciate is just some self-care tips. You practice many different skills and we danced and we journaled and we had some breathing exercises." >> We gave techniques on how to take care of yourselves because we know the teachers are always taking care of the littles and sometimes it's easy not to just, you know, embrace themselves and say, "This is what I need." And then she reached out again. Hey, what do you still need? Well, microwaves. >> Microwaves. She goes, "Yeah, ours are old and you know, they don't have the numbers. We don't know how long the food has been there." >> The teacher's like, "Can we get ones that have like the plate that spins?" >> And I said, "You know what? We've got that." We went out and we bought a couple microwaves. I'm so excited that they love the microwaves. you know, that's just proof that sometimes it's just the small things that make a really really big impact. >> We've just been really blessed to to have Landa and not just her, but again, the community behind her, her sorority sisters, that means the world to us. >> I would just encourage anyone, everyone, if you're interested to participate in this program. It is so important to pour into our young people at a very early age. But with that, we can't pour into them without pouring into the teachers. Phoenix isn't just a city. It's a community. Diverse, vibrant, and always moving forward. At Phoenix TV, we bring you inside City Hall and beyond. From the services you rely on to the stories that connect us all. Watch live meetings, local stories, and updates that matter to you. Phoenix TV, your city, your voice. Subscribe on YouTube. A connecting Arizona. From the snowcapped mountains of northern Arizona to the arid desert and lush farmland of the central and southern regions of our state, Arizona's natural beauty is diverse and breathtaking. Residents and tourists alike certainly enjoy our scenic state. Unfortunately, sometimes a closer look reveals litter. >> I found a lot of socks. ADOT spends about $8 million a year cleaning up litter along our state highways. Removing litter from our roads and highways is a time-consuming and costly job that threatens to get worse as Arizona's population grows. >> Thank you for participating in the adopt a highway program. >> So we greatly appreciate the help of Arizona citizens like you who volunteer in our adopt a highway program. Give your guys self yourself self a hand. >> Your group has graciously agreed to clean up litter along a specific section of highway for a period of 2 years. As you begin your efforts, please keep in mind that a public highway can be dangerous and some basic safety issues must be considered before you start work. So, are you ready to tackle the trash? >> I'm ready. WE READY? >> It is important that you properly prepare yourself for the workday. Proper clothing and hydration are two priorities. When it comes to water, ask yourself these questions and plan accordingly for your water supply. How many people will be in your group? How many hours do you plan to work? How many miles do you plan to cover? What is the forecast temperature for the day? Now, think about your location. Does your cell phone get service where your adopted road is in case of emergency? How far is the nearest medical facility? Next, think about what to wear. Since most everything in Arizona has thorns, long-sleeve shirts and pants are recommended because of the harsh terrain, cactus, reptiles, and insects you may encounter. Wear protective gloves and strong sold shoes or boots. Avoid sandals or loose- fitting shoes. Don't forget your sunscreen, and you'll probably want a hat, too. Congratulations, you're ready to pick up trash. Your group should carpool as much as possible to keep the number of cars on site to a minimum. And always remember to park as far away from the roadway as possible. Next, your group coordinator will conduct a safety meeting for all group members. Each person must wear a safety vest at all times. Safety vests along with trash bags will be supplied to you by ADOT. Remember, no children below the age of 12 or pets are permitted in the program or in the work area. For your safety, do not utilize music players. Your ears are often the first thing to warn you of imminent danger. Appoint a lookout for your group. Work facing oncoming traffic and remember to stay at least 5 ft from the pavement edge. The fewer distractions for the traveling public and your group, the better. Now, when it comes to trash, know what you're picking up. If you cannot identify it, don't pick it up. This brings us to the topic of hazardous waste. Methamphetamine is the number one drug abused in the United States and Arizona today and is responsible for a lot of our violent crime. >> Each pound of meth that is manufactured produces 5 to 6 lb of hazardous materials as waste. So, when you're out here on the roadway, don't pick up things that have tubing that is red, ice chest that are red, or red chemical bottles. Bad guys throw them out here because they don't want to get caught with them. Also, leave those corroded propane bottles alone. Used car batteries needles syringes or anything that you don't know what it is. The best rule of thumb is if you are uncertain, don't touch it and inform local law enforcement. Remember, be alert. Also, do not enter pipes or culverts. The danger is too high, so let the pros deal with that. You should pick up small items made of paper, cardboard, plastic, styrofoam, wood, or rubber. Glass items in small empty containers are okay if they do not have sharp edges. Tie your bags securely shut and place the filled bags at least 6 ft from the pavement edge. Do not overfill or over stuff the bags. ADOT workers must lift these bags into their trucks. Place large or heavier items like tire debris or any items that would tear a bag near the filled bags. Remember, don't move anything that could cause you or your team members physical harm. A DOT will remove your filled trash bags from the roadside after the cleanup is complete. Avoid overexertion and drink plenty of fluids to stay hydrated. Adopt a highway program encourages recycling, so collect the recyclables and take them with you. Make sure your group has enough water and that on-site first aid is available. Leave snakes alone. People are bitten because they try to kill a snake or get a closer look at it. Keep hands and feet out of areas you cannot see. Don't pick up rocks or firewood. Be cautious and alert at all times. If you or a group member is bitten, wash the bite with soap and water. Immobilize the bitten area and keep it lower than the heart and get medical help. Remember, you signed a permit to do this. That permit has terms and conditions. It is very important that you read and abide by them. Inform your ADOT adopt a highway contact at least 5 days prior to the cleanup effort. We need to make sure your dates don't conflict with other highway uses. So, it's very important to know who your adopt a highway contact is and that they have your contact information. We need to know as quickly as possible if a new coordinator is appointed or if you change any of your contact information. Make sure everyone in your group fills out a volunteer registration form before each cleanup. The Arizona Department of Transportation wants this to be a rewarding and safe experience for all of you. Volunteers like you make this program successful by giving your time and energy to make a positive impact on the environment. Your efforts are appreciated very much so not only by ADOT but also by the citizens of Arizona and the visitors who will enjoy a cleaner state because of your hard work. So spread the word Arizona keep it grand. My name is Brian Song. I'm a management assistant too at uh the planning and development department at the city of Phoenix. The management fellowship program is a year-long program uh for people that have interest in being in local government or city of Phoenix for that matter to get to really experience what and how the city of Phoenix works. I was considering a career change into local government. So I felt a little nervous making that jump from academia to practice and I felt like the management fellowship program was a great way to make that jump, be okay to take risks but be able to get access to to really uh try to learn and absorb and really do a deeper dive on how local governments work. If I were to describe the management fellowship program, I would say felt like a classroom where I could really study and engage in whatever I wanted to do and we had great teachers and mentors that could navigate me through the process. What I really appreciate about the program is that I was given really the the the fullest level of access to everybody that you could think of in in the city of Phoenix, which is a wide range of diversity of people. a lot of great people that we got access to got to interact with them and and really learn uh from their expertise and and uh receive great advice from them. Uh along the way, the manager fellowship program really gave me confidence that if I really put my head down and and really try to understand how the city works, how things operate, how people operate, I can learn great things and I can achieve great things throughout my career at the city of Phoenix. the city of Phoenix uh set me up on a career of lifelong learning, which I really enjoy doing. So, um I'm just going to never run out of opportunities to learn at the City of Phoenix. If you're as curious as I am, if you're um excited about learning new things and learning about public service and learning about what local government does to service people, um I can't think of a better way than the manager fellowship program to to do that. What a wonderful day it is to be here as we welcome Welcome China Airlines with the first ever non-stop service from Taipei to Phoenix, Arizona. What a great day it is. It was an honor to be on that inaugural flight from Taipei, Taiwan to Phoenix. It is indicative of what I know is a tremendous partnership that is really going to propel this region, the relationship between the two countries. This new route is more than just a connection between two cities. It's a bridge between two dynamic regions. The economic impact of this yearround service is expected to exceed $100 million on an annual basis. Passenger traffic between Phoenix and Taipei has surged by more than 400% since 2019, highlighting the growing demand for this connection. We are thrilled to welcome travelers from the Silicon Island to the Silicon Desert. The future is bright and this is just the beginning. >> This flight is not only about tourism. It's about forging more collaboration uh in our industries, in our technologies, in our exchanges, in education and in all fronts. >> We truly believe in this city potential and uh look forward to building even stronger partnership together in here. The milestone is possible because of your dedication. you had the confidence to make sure that this day happened. And I just want to thank you and the entire China Airlines team for allowing us to make that today possible. My name is Destiny Dominguez. I'm an administrative assistant, too, in the public works solid waste division. The Phoenix Management Fellowship program is a year-long program where you rotate through three different departments, 4 months each. And during that time, you really just have the opportunity to learn about different uh things happening in that department. And it all kind of ties back to the city manager's office, which is where you're housed. You're learning from these top level staff. It's just such a year-long learning opportunity. The goal of the Phoenix Management Fellowship then and I think now since it's been around for 75 plus years has been to help really just gain exposure to city operations. I grew up in Phoenix. Uh and so when I began studying uh public service, public policy, and then eventually public administration, uh I knew that I wanted to pursue a career in local government. And so during one of my undergrad classes, um I heard about the Phoenix Management Fellowship Program. And so thankfully I I got it really just about giving back to the community that gave so much to me growing up. And then obviously I mean Phoenix is the fifth largest city in the United States, largest council manager form of government. Like who doesn't want to be a part of that? I was seeking a couple of things. things. I was seeking mentorship, just support, and then experiences that would be able to kind of carry me through my career hopefully with the city of Phoenix. And thankfully, I'm here now today. Um, but that was all here at the city of Phoenix. I think people are often um kind of worried about how large Phoenix is, 1.7 million people, 15,000 employees, but truly you have such a diverse group of people here at the city to learn from who are willing to just help you get through anything and just willing to be there. Um so I think that commitment to just building up the Phoenix of tomorrow is what really intrigued me um to be here and I'm so thankful that I'm still here contributing to that. One of my favorite memories is really the community budget hearings. Uh sitting in on those, listening to the community, the staff was always willing to listen. Them just being able to kind of have those conversations with them was really, really good to hear. Interacting with field staff, just administrative staff on a day-to-day basis and the incredible executive team that we have here at the city of Phoenix, it's unparalleled. Having gone through the program through that entirely crazy year um has prepared me now here because the amount of connections that you have, the amount of uh resources that you're able to provide that a lot of people aren't aware of. I think it's it's a big benefit to to me. I knew coming into the program that this was my calling, but now I know more than ever that it is. And I'm so thankful to be here at the city of Phoenix. Phoenix has it all, and this is a place to be. Who wouldn't want to be here at the Phoenix Management Fellowship Program? Semiconductor industry is becoming the future of of the world. We're establishing something new in the country, something new that will generate the pipeline of future talent for TSMC. >> Who doesn't want to be part of the probably the biggest company that's coming and plus I really needed a career and thankfully I've found my career here. >> Truly been a privilege to establish this apprenticeship program here at TSMC. We started with eight apprentices. The apprentichip program overall is between 18 and 24 months. The apprenticeship is structured in two cycles. This is the completion of cycle one. >> I'm a water apprentice. I'm really excited and looking forward to the next step or second phase of the program. They have four departments here. We have electrical, water, mechanical, and gas and cans. And throughout the first phase of the program, we moved around to each department for approximately 4 months. They show us a lot of the basics that we need to know getting into an industry like this. We have on the job training and we're also going to school. School is over at Westmech. So, we get hands-on training over at school. And then here at TSMC as well, we're working with our mentors, with technicians. All of our supervisors support us, help us, and they give us everything that we need to succeed. >> The staff here is one of my favorite things. They show you what it is to be in a team and they really are welcoming and want to help you grow. We took individuals that had minimal industry experience and they're becoming industry experts. They are getting to learn a lot of the systems. They get to learn and work on all of our equipment and truly truly become part of our TSMC family. And when I joined here, I joined here in hopes of building my career, like being set. I can't really tell you where I would be if I didn't have this position. So, I'm just thankful to be here and I just want to keep going. >> We are receiving a journeyman's card through the city of Phoenix. They work with TSMC and it's the first of its kind in the nation. >> We love apprenticeships in the city of Phoenix, as you know. We believe in them. We use them ourselves. We took on the sponsorship role which means these programs are actually the city of Phoenix programs and employers now can join us making folks like TSMC and other employers uh build this pipeline that will serve many different employers here in our community. >> Semiconductor industry is becoming the future of of the world. It's important to have skilled people and people that are motivated to grow with the technology that's innovating every day. >> We did it. I just want to thank CSMC, City of Phoenix, uh, Westmech, Stray Mountain Community College, uh, for coming together and giving us this opportunity and helping our career grow and for everything that they've done and all the work that they put in up until 1889. And the majority of the water that was used by Phoenicians came from the actual original canal that went through town. In 1889, a man named John Gardner started the first city waterworks, which is where we're standing today. Water was delivered to this very spot at Birdie Park by a redwood tunnel that extended for 30 m to the east and the northeast. Part of the city waterworks in 1938 was this pump house. It was built with the intention of being an emergency pump house. Water has always been an important element of thriving in the valley of the sun. This pump house represents one of the few remaining strugg. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for joining us today. Before the formal city council meeting, we will convene a meeting of the assisted housing governing board. I'll call that meeting to order. Will the clerk call the role? >> Board member Guardo. Board member Hernandez here. >> Board member Maghard. >> Board member O'Brien here. Board member Pastor >> here. >> Board member Robinson >> here. >> Board member Stark >> here. >> Board member Wearing >> here. >> Vice Chair Hajj Washington >> here. >> Chairwoman Gigo >> here. Resolution number 231 is a resolution adopting the US Department of Housing and Urban Development's rental assistance demonstration programs calendar year 2026 property operating budgets for certain affordable housing portfolio projects. Vice Mayor Hud Washington or Vice Chair Hudge Washington, will you do you have a motion? >> I was going to allow our board member Donna to make the motion. >> I motion to approve the resolution 231. Second >> motion in a second. Any comments? >> Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Maghard, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. Here. Yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> Hodge Washington, >> yes. GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 90. >> All right. to item number four, resolution 232, which is related to the housing department's annual agency plan, section 8 plan, public housing emissions and occupancy policy, capital funding, and authorizing the housing department to submit the respective documents to HUD. Board member Magher, do you have a motion? >> Motion to approve resol resolution number 232. >> Back in. We have a motion and a second. Any comments? Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> Maghard, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> Hodgej Washington, >> yes. GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 90. >> Thank you so much, board member Mer. Thank you for your service to our community. We really appreciate you. And with that, the housing governing board meeting is adjourned. And now we'll invite police chaplain Jim Williams a forward to provide an invitation. Madame Mayor and council and staff, thank you so much for your dedication, your time and support. Would you all join me in a prayer of invocation, inviting the Lord to join us today on our council meeting? Heavenly Father, I come to you requesting your presence and participation as I lift up to you our mayor, our city council, and our staff members. I would like to offer a personal thank you for these precious and willing individuals that consistently share their leadership, their talents, and giving with all of us. Father, I ask you to draw the mayor and council close to you, anointing them with your wisdom, your understanding, and your discernment as only you can do. Grant them favor, allowing them to know and understand and fulfill your purposes for our city. Father, please allow protection around all of our city leaders, our employees, and their families, keeping them healthy and safe. And Lord, you are our rock and our redeemer. And I thank you in advance for your direction, discernment, and your love extended to all of our city employees. To you, Father, we give all the praise and all the glory. Amen. >> Thank you so much, Chaplain. Councilwoman Deborra Stark, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? We'll now call to order the formal meeting of the Phoenix City Council. Will the clerk call the role? >> Councilwoman Wardado. >> Councilwoman Hernandez >> here. >> Councilwoman O'Brien >> here. >> Councilwoman Pastor here. >> Councilman Robinson >> here. >> Councilwoman Stark here. Councilman Wearing here. >> Vice Mayor Hodgej Washington here. Mayor Ggo here. Mario Barahas and Elsie Dwarte are with us to provide interpretation. Mario, would you please introduce your team? >> Yes, mayor. Thank you. Good afternoon. As already mentioned, my name is Mario Barahas. I'll be serving as an interpreter for Spanish speakers together with Elsie Darte. I'll take a moment now to introduce ourselves to our Spanish speaking residents. Thank you, mayor. Thank you so much, Mario. Will the city clerk read the 24-hour paragraph? >> The titles of the following ordinance and resolution numbers on the agenda were available to the public at least 24 hours prior to this council meeting and therefore may be read by title or agenda item only. Ordinances number G7484 through 7496, S5263376 and resolution 22365. >> Will the city attorney please explain the role of public comments? >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. Members of the public may speak for up to two minutes to comment on agenda items. Comments must be related to the agenda item and the action being considered by the council. General comments that go beyond the scope of the agenda items should be made during the citizen comment session at the end of the agenda. The city council and staff cannot discuss or comment on matters related to pending investigations, claims, or litigation. Additionally, any member of the public who appears before the council in their capacity as a lobbyist must, as required by Phoenix City Code, disclose this fact before addressing the council. The city code states that speakers must express their comments respectfully and courteously. Use of profane language, threats, or personal attacks on members of the public, council members, or staff are not allowed. Such comments are disruptive and unrelated to the council's business. Any person who violates these rules may lose their opportunity to speak further and could be asked to leave. Thank you. >> Thank you so much, Julie. Boards and commissions. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve mayor and city council's boards and commission nominations. >> Second. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please signal I. I. >> Any opposed? Nay. We will now conduct a swearing in. Sorry. Congratulations. >> Thank you very much. >> Please raise your right hand. >> I state your name. >> I, Patrick Canel, Jr. do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona >> and and the Constitution and laws of the state of Arizona >> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and and defend them against all enemies >> and defend them against all enemies >> foreign and domestic >> foreign and domestic >> and that I will faithfully >> and that I will faithfully >> and impartially >> and impartially Y >> discharge the duties of the office of >> discharge the duties of the office of the Camelback East Village Planning Committee >> according to the best of my ability. >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. >> Congratulations, Commissioner. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Congratulations, Commissioner, on your unanimous vote. We will now go to the liquor license portion of our agenda. The city council provides an advisory role to the state of Arizona. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve items 2 through 13. >> Second. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Nay. Passes unanimously and perhaps of interest. That includes the liquor license for the Phoenix Final Four organizing committee. So, looking forward to welcoming that great sporting event to the city of Phoenix at the beginning of April. City clerk, we ready for ordinances resolution new business planning and zoning? >> Yes, mayor. >> Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Yes. Motion to approve items 14 to through 78 except the following items 27 30 55 and 78. Noting that item 27 is as corrected per the memo from the city attorney dated March 4th, 2026. Item 51 is as revised. And can the clerk confirm if there are any other items that should be excluded for inperson public comment? >> Yes, mayor. Vice Mayor. No other items to exclude. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. Roll call. Hernandez, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> Hodgej Washington, >> yes. FGO, >> yes. >> Passes 80. >> Lots of important items from investments with Phoenix Children's Museum to partnerships with Childhelp. Uh, today's agenda also includes 273 housing units, of which 162 are affordable. So, big meeting today. Next, we'll go to item 27. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve item 27. Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I'll allow folks to clear for a moment and then we can discuss item 27. All right. Item 27 is a legal contract with the Coppermith Law Firm. Here in Phoenix, our city council is committed to doing what we can to protect our residents in the event that the federal government does hear what they did in Minnesota, massive civil rights violations, violence against innocent people, and zero respect for rule of law. An essential part of our efforts to protect our residents is to make sure we have the right team on our side if we take legal action against the federal government. That's what this item does. By hiring Copper Smith Brocklman with lead attorney Bo Dole, we're hiring experienced lawyers who have handled complex federal issues on an emergency basis. Bo knows these issues well. She's the former general counsel for the governor's office, the former general counsel for the secretary of state, and in those roles, she worked to protect the rights of Arizonans. She's a champion of Arizona's immigrant community and one of the founders of the Phoenix Legal Action Network, which works with and advocates for immigrants. and she herself knows the journey that so many immigrants have taken in our country. Her own family came to the United States as refugees. We will be taking many more actions as we prepare for potential federal overreach, but this is an important one and I want to thank my city council colleagues for their sport support on this item. I'll next turn to Councilwoman Hernandez and then Vice Mayor Hudge Washington. >> Thank you so much, Mayor. Um just have a few questions for probably start with Ed here. Maybe Julie if you want to chime in. Um the packet the packet outline that we are uh bringing on this legal council to provide services outlined in the community transparency initiative and just want to make sure that that is the correct understanding. Yes. Um mayor, members of council, council member Hernandez. So yes, we did um bring on this firm to address the directive that was approved by the mayor and city council on February 10th work study and also to advise Phoenix as needed and if it becomes necessary to bring or defend against litigation related to these issues or related responses. >> Okay. Thank you so much, Julie. Um, and just for my clarity and the clarity of the community, um, what risks have been identified by our legal team that necess necessitates outside counsel? So, mayor, members of council, I I think it's more of an issue of um helping to advise us on um some of the directives that council had passed. Um, we were asked to also look at staging and look at a number of different areas. So each of those might involve some legal risk or some legal questions that we needed to help evaluate. >> Okay. Thank you. So that was actually going to be my next question, but you kind of covered part of it. Um so I want to make sure that the community understands that they are going to support or I guess the question would be they are going to support are they going to support our legal team um as we prepare for ICE and Trump um as outlined by the community transparency initiative. >> Mayor, members of council, council member Hernandez, that is correct. >> Okay. Thank you so much, Julie. Um, and you know, I I think it is very important for us just to be very clear for with our residents that we do take these preparations and the response to ICE um and Trump very seriously. So, thank you just for for sharing that. Um, I know as we have further conver we will be having further conversations um as the initiative rolls out between now and March 25th I believe. Um, but I am glad to see that we are moving on the legal front just to be prepared as we have seen actions in other cities and I just want the the communities to understand how serious we are taking this matter. Um, so I'm really looking forward to working with my colleagues and the mayor on how we can protect um our residents moving forward in the strongest way possible. So, thank you so much. Thank you Mayor. >> Thank you so much, Vice Mayor Hud Washington. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just wanted to just echo some comments. I think this item represents the city taking an an important step in advancing the community transparency initiative that council directed staff to develop. Um, transparency builds trust and when residents feel informed, included, and heard, confident in local government grows stronger. This contract will help provide the legal and structural framework necessary to ensure that the city's efforts are thoughtful, legally sound, and sustainable. We know the nuances between the federal inter over interplay and our municipal government requires um a fine um traversing of of of items and I think the more thoughts and more leaders uh individuals that are part of that process it provides for a stronger um plan going forward. So I'm very happy to see us move forward and I do appreciate all of the work that our city's legal department or law department has done. Um but I think this is just us continuing to fortify that foundation that we've had to ensure that our residents feel safe and protected. Um the fear and frustration that some of our residents feel with what we're seeing in other parts of our country as a result of our federal administration. I think this is a good fir one of our good first steps to show that we are trying to figure out all available avenues. So I think this is something that I am I think it's a foundational to good governance and to restoring the public trust. So thank you mayor Thank you. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> no. >> Hodge, Washington, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 71. >> Item 30 is next. Will the city clerk read the title? Item 30 is for ordinance G7496, an ordinance delaying the effective date of ordinance G7467 to June 1st, 2026. >> Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Sorry. Okay. Motion to approve item 30. >> Second. >> Second. >> Thank you. We have one speaker and this would be on the matter of the continuence, not the substance. Brian, the floor is yours. Uh, mayor, uh, city council members, um, I just wanted to come today, this afternoon to, uh, express my gratitude for y'all's consideration of this delay. Um, the last time we were here at December 17th, I the only ask that I really made to you was to give some time for us to talk about this and for us to have an opportunity to uh maybe exchange some information and learn a more a little bit more on both sides about this issue. And I really really appreciate again uh just this opportunity to have more delay and uh intention to spend some more time doing that because I've really appreciated the opportunity to speak uh with city staff, some of whom I'm I see here today about this issue. Um, and I'm really looking forward to having the opportunity to meet individually with some of your offices and continue this conversation a little bit deeper. So, uh, I just want to say thank you again, especially because, you know, um, I would say myself and a lot of my neighbors, um, and a lot of Americans across the country are a little bit disillusioned with our political processes uh, in the last couple years. And I just from the bottom of my heart, I really want to say that thank you for demonstrating that uh you know, local government is still responsive to the concerns and uh things that you know its residents want to have and say to y'all. So, thank you again. I appreciate it. Uh please, please, please uh approve this delay so we can have some of those conversations and dig into this a little bit deeper. Thank you. >> Roll call. Hernandez. Mayor, I had a couple questions on this before we move to voting. >> Wonderful. And in the future, just if you want to let us know ahead of time that you had questions, that'd be great. Councilwoman Hernandez. >> Thank you. So, you usually call on questions first. So, I will let you know ahead of time next time. Um, just want to make sure I'm first of all, I am really in support of extending the implementation of this ordinance for another 60 days. Um, I made it clear on December 17th that I did not like the way that we went about getting to the ordinance. Um, and as we have met with staff and stakeholders for the community these last 45 days, um, it has been been reaffirmed to me that we do not have this ordinance right and we have yet to identify and agree on the strategy that we will be both effective and not result in criminalization of our residents. But I think delaying the implementation is the least we can do just to make sure that we get this right and we don't make any mistakes with this ordinance. Um, just have a question. I think I have a question for Cynthia, but I don't know if Cynthia or Ed would want to take this. Um, thank you so much. Um, have we explored or done any studies or analysis on how much it would cost to increase staffing at parks? um to specifically tend to the cleanup and the trash concerns that we heard um in a lot of the conversations on the park grounds. >> Good afternoon, mayor, members of the city council, Councilwoman Hernandez. We've not done a study around that yet. That is certainly information that we could look into. >> Okay. Thank you. And I was just I wanted to ask that because I know a lot of the concerns that I heard um since December and through now a lot has been centered on needle collection and trash being left behind in the parks. um which decreases the experience our residents have at our parks. Um so for me, I'm trying to think of like what is another solution that we can do the um that would maybe look like hiring even part-time help to help keep our parks clean. Um so glad to hear that you know you are open to that. Uh so would we be able to do that study as we delay this um implementation on the ordinance just to look at a cost analysis on what that could look like? >> Sure. Mayor, members of the city council, we and Councilwoman Hernandez, we can certainly look at based on the positions we have in parks currently, such as our groundskeepers or other staff that clean parks, um, what it could take to enhance the service levels that we currently provide in terms of cleaning. >> Okay, thank you so much. Um, okay, that was the only question I had. Thank you. >> Roll call. >> Anand? >> Uh, yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing >> Hodge Washington, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 71. >> We next go to item 55, which is related to buses. Vice Mayor, do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve item 55. Second. >> We have a motion and a second. So, this item addresses two bus related items. The first is a really exciting one. The United States has the pleasure of hosting the 2028 Olympics. They will be headquartered in Los Angeles and Los Angeles is trying to do everything they can to be a more sustainable Olympics, including a huge emphasis on public transit. They have asked the city of Phoenix if we would be willing to partner with them with buses we no longer need. This item would allow us to move 20 buses that have reached the end of their useful life to Los Angeles to support the 2028 Olympics. I'm really excited to participate in this incredible international experience. This is not the first time for us at the city of Phoenix. We also provided buses in support of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics when they were in our country. Really, really good opportunity for us. And the city of Phoenix has bid to have the torch run come through the city of Phoenix as well. It's a particular passion project for Councilwoman Vice Mayor Hud Washington and myself. So, good news in that area. A more complex one is the city had been hoping to add a hydrogen bus investment to our fleet. There were there was um several years ago huge momentum for hydrogen fuel in Arizona. incredible economic development announcements in the hundreds of millions of dollars. With the change in the in Washington DC there many of those announcements have since decided they will not go forward and there is not the fuel infrastructure we need. So this bus will instead be sold at our cost to a operator in California where there is better infrastructure for hydrogen. So I look forward to supporting this item. Does anyone wish to comment? >> Vice Mayor. Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to say quickly, I think this is a really interesting opportunity for the city to be a partner. The Olympics represents teamwork and partnership, and for us to be able to help our colleagues in um California as they pres prepare for the Olympics is very exciting. >> Cool. And thank you to everyone on my team and public transit and others who have been working so hard on this item. Roll call. >> Hernandez, >> yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. >> Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. Wearing >> yes. >> Hodge Washington. >> Yes. KGO. >> Yes. >> Passes 80. >> Item 78 is our final agendaized item. We will turn to the city clerk to read the title. >> Item 78 is for ordinance G7495, an ordinance amending the code of the city of Phoenix, Arizona, chapter 10, article 16, short-term vacation rental. >> Thank you so much. Uh could our planning and development team give give us uh we've all spent a lot of time on this, but could you give us a a brief summary of the item? Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Yes. Item 78 is a an amendment to the city code, chapter 10, article 16, regarding short-term rentals. uh our state legislature uh amended the state law last year to allow cities and towns to require property owners um to reside on the property if there is an accessory dwell unit and a short-term rental. So that is the amendment we're making today. >> Thank you so much. I'll turn let's see uh we'll open the public hearing. We have one member of the public to comment. Elizabeth, the floor is yours. Um, I just think that it's a I'm going to be straightforward and say that I haven't necessarily read the entire text, but I think it's good to regulate the short-term rentals because they inflate the housing market. you don't necessarily have the ability to uh lower rents or do rent control or whatever, but I think that whatever you can do to regulate the short-term rentals and extract value from them, I think is the most important thing. You have to be in alignment with whatever the legislature says. And that may be what you're doing is reconciling an old program with the ledge. But um I think again I one of the things I say to you guys is don't give up your autonomy and and the most you can do is um better than what you've been restricted to do. You know you can you have to wear work it out. But >> thank you so much. We will close the public hearing and I will turn to Councilwoman Deborah Stark who has spent a lot of time on this issue. >> Thank you mayor. And just a quick comment before I make the motion. I had a chance to talk to Kate Bower, who heads up the Arizona Neighborhood Alliance. This group advocates for responsible regulation and use of short-term rentals, and they're very grateful for what we're doing. They see this as a potential of curtailing some of the party houses that we have out there. And uh with uh that, I will make a motion to approve and adopt the related ordinance. >> Second. We have a motion and a second. comments. Roll call. >> Noneendes. >> Mayor, may I explain my vote? >> Please do. >> Thank you. Um, just want to highlight that it's important to get in line with state statute, but also I'm hoping that our state partners see the necessity to continue to work on this issue so that we can put more guard rails around short-term rentals. So, um, as we are still in the middle of a housing, uh, situation, just attainability for folks. So, um, glad to see that I am committed to continue to working with our state partners on this, push them to let us do more around short-term rentals, um, and just really keep our foot on the gas on on this issue. So, thank you so much. And I vote yes. >> O'Brien, >> yes. Pastor, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Stark, >> yes. >> Wearing, >> yes. >> Hodge Washington, >> yes. >> GGO, >> yes. >> Passes 80. >> Wonderful. Thank you so much. That is the conclusion of our agendaized business and then we will move to the final portion of the meeting which is our public comment and I will turn back to our city attorney. Would you introduce this portion? >> Thank you mayor. During citizen comment, members of the public may speak to the city council for up to three minutes on issues of interest or concern. However, the matters addressed must be within the jurisdiction of the Phoenix City Council and on which the council has the authority to act. The citizen comment session is limited to 30 minutes. The Arizona open meeting law allows the city council to listen to comments that prohibits council members from discussing or acting on the issues presented. However, council members may respond to criticism. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. We'll begin with Crystal Anderson followed by Michael Cornut. Hi. Hi, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Crystal Anderson. I am a 44year-old SOS resident with walking disabilities that has a hard time holding my bladder or making it to a large distance to one of two handicap bathrooms we have. and we hope that they're even open or working at the time as one of them is usually down. We have many different issues here, but one of the main ones is that there are only two handicap bathrooms and showers. I have fallen getting up and down the regular bathroom stairs myself and standing and maneuvering as a reg in a regular shower is really hard. I have not been recognized disabled by the state yet because I do have to refile. However, I do have physical challenges to my everyday living since my spinal surgery. Since I'm not on file at disabled, I get yelled at um for using the handicap bathrooms or shower and I can't make it to the regular ones or the stand fake shower. I have had accidents trying to make it to one of the regular bathrooms so I don't get so I don't get in trouble. I believe if we have had more handicap bathrooms, it would eliminate a lot of the hardships we have. A lot of people there have similar issues that I have. Um there are a lot of disabled there and we have two bathrooms. One of them is usually closed. Um or you have to stand in line and wait. Um and and we get in trouble if we have to ask for extra things, clothes, towels. Um basic things that you need. Um, and I think that if we had some more handicap vessels, because there's a large majority of us there, that it would help. Thank you. Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Michael is next, followed by Shemica. >> I'm Michael. Michael and SOS is not a bad place. It just needs some slight improvements like water during the winter time even sometimes. Yes, I am disabled. I got Addison's. I got a clogged artery. I got CO PD. I got arthritis, stomach issues. And sometimes I cannot get up and do things like normal people, but I struggle through. And I'm I'm actually trying to get housing so I can get better places for others who are handicapped there. So, so we don't have to sit and wait for things. And he is right. More handicapped restrooms and and more more places for the handicap to go. Thank you. >> Thank you, Michael, for your testimony. Shemica is next followed by Eric. Hello, I'm Shemica. Sorry, I'm really sensitive and get emotional. I'll try. Okay, I'm currently 5 months pregnant and I have multiple sclerosis. I live on the SOS lot. Getting around is not only dangerous, but it's nearly impossible to get to the restrooms. There's 250 people there. You walk a quarter mile just to go to the restroom. You wake up. You're eating slop. Doesn't matter if you have diarrhea. There's only one place you can go to the bathroom. Two if you're lucky. You're already dealing with that. And then it's just it's unsanitary. Like as I said, I'm pregnant. I'm trying to stay well. I'm trying to get off the streets. for my baby. You get ridiculed. You get blamed. Your bed gets threatened. If you go and you talk to the only people that do have the power on campus, I went and told them someone messed up the bathroom and it was just, "Oh, that's gross." Okay, go back over there. Um, we've all lived through a pandemic. We know how important it is for clean hands. They've turned off all the water. None of the bathrooms have running water, so we can't wash our hands. We don't have water to drink. We're outside in 110° heat and there's nothing to drink. Um, and we know that hygiene saves lives. Um, they removed the door knobs from the bathroom doors. I have been sexually victimized before. Your privacy during that time is essential. That's oxygen. That's safety to be sure that no one is in the bathroom. They all people don't knock. They just open. And when there's no door knob, there's nothing to be like, "Hey, I'm in here." When they had when I got there, they had door knobs and they had locks. It's no longer You can't even have a doorork knob and it doesn't lock. So, anyone can walk in at any time. The appointments, you're just left there. You're just left there. They will help when you first get there and then you don't see them again. You have to chase them to make an appointment. It's inconsistent. There's no oversight. They don't have a meeting. Like, there's no consistent information. You ask the same question to five people, you get 15 different answers. Thank you very much. Thank you for this testimony and my team is going to follow up with the office of homeless solutions on this. Eric is next followed by David Ry Morgan. >> Hello you all. Um my name is Eric Richardson. Um first time coming here. A little bit nervous and everything but I think I can make it through. But anyways um I also stay at SOS a lot. Um, I guess I I don't really uh cuz I'm I'm able body and everything like that. Uh, so I don't have like some of the similar issues that uh some of my uh previous people have. Uh even though I will vouch for the rest issue with the restrooms and everything. I've seen that. Uh even with myself, I have a little bit issues even getting there myself me being able body. But um that's the least of my matters or whatever. my thing is is trying to get out my situation and having programs to help me uh to get out of my situation and get housing and everything. Uh I feel like cuz I'm 45 basically and I feel like a lot of these programs that u I guess that provided for us it's usually I'm like either too young or I'm not old enough to get into them or whatever basically and I feel like there should be more programs for people like around in my age group I guess you know like in the 30s or 40s you know what I'm saying like cuz like I said like there's not that many you know what I'm saying like I said either you got to be 10 years older or 20 years younger or whatever and I'm hoping 10 years from now that I'm not even in this situation even to worry about some of the uh uh programs that are out there for us being overdoor or whatever basically. But I just would like to see if maybe y'all could uh have more programs as far as like housing and how to get out of my situation basically. That's about it. Thank you. >> David is next followed by Rhonda. >> Hi. You guys have heard from me before. I do live at the SOS lot. Um the very first time I spoke here, I gave a speech on how we need more budgeting for hygienic needs. Um the sanitation needs there need to be addressed and the bathrooms for the handicapped especially. Um I'm able-bodied. I can pretty much get there, but there shouldn't be a disciplinary action for those who don't and can't make it that far. And there is a disciplinary action for those who can't and don't make it that far. That's not fair to them. If you're not going to provide the bathroom, stop the disciplinary period. Um, there's a lot of things that are the the the SOS lot does do for the community as well as for the homeless. I no longer, you know, am here to advocate for closing it down, keep it open. 250 people are off the street. We're being fed. It may not be the best food in the world, but it's food. And, you know, the the water issue is a huge thing. our our basic necessities of life for our shelter should be met. Currently, the water filter that we drink from in the day room is on red. That means it's not drinkable. It's on a three light system. Green means go. Yellow means caution. Red means don't drink. It is a trickle. It is we are what we are forced to drink. It will not provide bottle water. As city council, please budget for more water. Sanitation issues at our shelters. We need paper towels. We need hand soap. We need running water. >> Thank you. Rhonda is next, followed by Elizabeth. >> Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for taking the time to hear us today. My name is Rhonda Savage, and I'd like to address the absolute necessity for the hygiene of paper towels and the soap. All of us here know how important it is to wash our hands after we go to the bathroom. We're not able to. We have no soap. And what soap we might find is covered in a matter that I don't want to discuss right here. Um, I don't know how to impress upon you how important it is for the majority of us to be clean. None of us want to be here. We didn't all ask to be at the SOS tents. Thank God it's available. But we still need the basic hygiene of soap and paper towels. Thank you. >> Thank you Rhonda for that testimony. Elizabeth is next followed by Robert. >> Okay. So um basically what I think we're doing in in a way is like continuous quality improvement. Um we want to make sure that um the facilities that you're budgeting for, you know, are are appropriate and adequate for the needs of the people that are that are there, you know. And um I think the sanitation issue is is the number one biggest complaint that I've heard of on the SOS lot. Um there I I wanted to say that I appreciate the budget um allocation. I thought the budget allocation is pretty um substantive. I need to read through the entire um line items and whatever, but um I think that it shows that um you are taking responsibility by not um closing any of the facilities and also not immediately sunsetting the SOS. In my world of worlds, we would have a different facility besides the SOS and I think you know that. But um I think that it you know if you have 250 people living there it has to be livable and um they're just sort of um you know attempts to make it so I won't take up a bunch of your time more today. Thank you. Robert is uh Robert Williams next followed by Antonio Williams. My name is Antonio Williams and I just want to say a couple of things. I was at Cass three and a half years ago. I was president, stood up for the people. These polices, they know who I am. And I don't think I got to say I'mma keep fighting for what's right because it don't make no sense how homeless people get harassed. I got robbed for $500. Phone got stolen. Everything got tooken. I stand up and I get put in jail because I stand up for what I believe in. That's crazy. You know, take it back. History repeats itself. We living in the Armageddon. And I feel like everybody that's rich around here that got Lamborghinis and got cars. Stop that. Stand up for the people. Because let me tell you, God don't like sellouts. Don't sell your soul cheap cuz it's a price you will pay. Stand up for the people. That's all I got to say and I'm done with it. God bless you. >> And did Ro did Robert Williams want a chance to speak? Robert, could you sort of signal if you were still with us? Thanks. The floor is yours. You're welcome to speak. >> Yeah. Why is it time drug. I get discriminated against to a grocery store. I walk into a grocery store. Is it fair for that manager to run up to me and check my pockets? Having so then I didn't even get an apology. Is it fair for a active productive working citizen like yourselves? Judge me as I walk down the street and feel for you to tell me to get a job. Is it not discrimination when you say little slick comments like bum loser? I've heard worse. Me? I'm really no different than you. I'm not as educated as you, but I have education. I consider myself self-employed. Why do I say that? I told this guy one time I was flying a sign. And he asked me, "Why do you consider that employment?" Like, you think about it. By definition, I'm advertising, marketing, and sales. I learned one thing here is 17 years I've been here in Arizona and that is I only get a 1% chance. It's my job to earn the 99%. I'm going to do that. Thank you. >> Thank you. That is our final testimony for today's meeting. We are adjourned. Thank you so much for joining us. to be announcing the opening of this this tele medicine hub here today. Um, and as Tracy said, potluck stands