>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 7 EDITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNSELOR JONES WILL BE EXCUSED THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING RULING BUT WE'LL BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BE LED BY THE DESIGNATED VICE PRESIDENT. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT AND REMEMBER OUR FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE COUNCIL RUTH ADAMS WHO SERVED EIGHT YEARS, TWO TERMS I THINK AND DID A GREAT JOB IN DISTRICT 6 -- >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR LEWIS WOULD YOU LEAD US IN ENGLISH AND COUNCILOR PEÑA IN SPANISH, PLEASE? -- TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE RUB LIBEL FOR WHICH IS IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. PARKS PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS AT THE TABLE AT THE CHAMBER ENTRANCE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND CITY STAFF AND OTHERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS LIVE STREAMED THROUGH FOUR PLATFORMS, THE TV ON COMCAST AND YOUTUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR AND THE GOVERNOR CHANNEL. ALSO, THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONS AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE. STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ON LINE, 505-768-3800 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOUR, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00-5:00. THE COUNSEL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 SIGN P.M. IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECOR RUM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE OR OUST BURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL GO A LOT SMOOTHER IF WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA? OKAY. DID YOU FIND IT? OKAY. >> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM ARTEMIS PRODUCTIONS, MR. JOE ROMERO AND LORENZO AND JULIA WILL BE PRESENTING AN AWARD TO COUNCIL. AND COMING UP TO THE PODIUM, I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF THE WORK YOU ARE DOING WITH THE LOW-RIDER CONFERENCE. JEFF HAS ALWAYS DONE A COM KNOLL PHENOMENAL JOB OF WORKING WITH YOU TO IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES, LAST YEAR THE ONE-DAY EVENT THAT YOU GUYS HOST AND RACHEL HELP ME UP IF I MESS THIS UP BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE $6.3 FOR ONE DAY WITH PEOPLE STAYING IN OUR HOTELS AND EATING IN OUR RESTAURANTS. THANKS FOR BRINGING ALL OF THAT TO ALBUQUERQUE. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO LET YOU -- I DON'T THINK I HAVE -- I KNOW YOU HAVE A PRESENCE. >> MY NAME IS -- FOR JOE ROMERO, AND THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL, ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU, ALL VERY MUCH FOR OUR CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP, THE SUPPORT WE HAVE FROM ALL OUT OF WITH YOU. IT MAKES THINGS A LOT EASIER ON US. WE APPRECIATE THIS CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP. WE THROW THIS SHOW TO SHOW THE POSITIVITY. WE THROW THIS SHOW TO SHOW THE CULTURE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND IN NEW MEXICO AS A WHOLE. SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU GUYS AND SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REDSKINNED RELATIONSHIP ANDEVERYTHING THAT. IF THERE IS EVER ANYTHING WE CAN DO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUR PART AND MAKE SURE WE CAN SHOW THIS POSITIVE IMPACT, OUR CULTURE, WHO WE ARE, AND WHY WE ARE THE WAY WE ARE. AND BRING SUCH A SHOW OF THIS MAGNITUDE TO ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. WITH YOUR HELP IT'S A BLESSING. AND SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. (APPLAUSE). >> WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THAT. >> AND JUST SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL. >> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING. I KNOW WITH THE LOW-RIDER CULTURE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO DISPEL SOME OF THE PERCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ABOUT THE LOW-RIDER COMMUNITY. AND YOU'VE BEEN A TREMENDOUS AASSET TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND THANK YOU AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD, WE APPRECIATE IT. >> WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, GOD BLESS AND THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. COUNCILOR, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, FIRST I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I HAD AN EDITORIAL PRINTED IN THE NEWSPAPER YESTERDAY, IN THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL AND I NEED TO GIVE A SINCERE APOLOGY. IT WAS A OMISSION ON MY BEHALF THAT SENATOR MIMI STEWART HAS OMITTED AND SHE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AND I APOLOGIZE AND I WILL NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. REGARDING THE NORTH DOMINGO AQUATIC CENTER, THE LAST MEETING WITH STAFF AND ARCHITECTS AND MYSELF WAS ON JUNE 21 AND I WAS INFORMED IT WERE CONCERNS ABOUT SOILS AND TESTING THAT NEEDED TO OCCUR. THE TESTING ENDED UP COMING BACK WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE RESULTS AND WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AS PLANNED. I SPOKE WITH CEO REAL AND HE HAD GREAT QUESTION ANSWERS TO RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC BUT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED TOUT ME ABOUT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WE HAVE HEARD IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANSWERS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO HEAR AS WELL. SO -- SUMMERS IS THE CONSUL INSTANT DESIGNING THIS PROJECT. AND WE WERE SCHEDULED TO GO FORWARD WITH PHASE ZERO AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT. WE HAVE POSITIVE SOIL RESULTS AND I'M HOPING WE CAN MOVE SEAMLESSLY ON TO THE NORTH DOMINGO AQUATIC CENTER, AND BECAUSE THERE WAS CONFUSION FROM THE MEETING WE HAD ON THE 21ST TO LAST WEEK AND MY INABILITY TO RESPONSE TO CONSTITUENTS, I WANT TO KNOW WHY THIS PROJECT HAS NOT YET GONE OUT TO BID WHEN WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD HAPPEN CLOSE TO THE POSITIVE RESULTS WE HAD ON JUNE 30? >> THERE IT IS. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILOR, FLIEE TO SEE ALL OF YOU AND I'M SURE YOU HAD A NICE MONTH'S VACATION FROM ALL OF US, BUT COUNCILOR I HAVE ASKED DIRECTER MONTOYA TO COME UP AND ANSWER ON THE QUESTIONS YOU STATED EARLIER. IN OUR DISCUSSIONS LAST WEEK I DO WANT TO SAY WE LOOKED AT THE ISSUE OF BIDDING WHAT IS CALLED PHASE ZERO, AND FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION, PHASE ZERO IS REALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE GRADING AND RETAINING WALLS AS REQUIRED TO GET THE SITE ARE THE FOR CONSTRUCTION, IF YOU WILL. WE HAD ORIGINALLY I THINK IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY BIDDING THAT PIECE OUT, IT WAS A SMALL PIECE BUT NONE THE LESS WOULD GET THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. HOWEVER, AFTER REVIEWING THE TIME, ET CETERA REMARKS IT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MORE RELEVANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING A SIMPLE CHANGE ORDER WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON SITE ALREADY DOING THE SPLASH PAD. AS YOU KNOW THERE IS A SPLASH PAD COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS -- WE NOTIFIED THE CONTRACTOR TO DO A CHANGE ORDER TO DO THIS WORK. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT IS WE ARE WAITING FOR THE PRICING TO COME IN AND AS SOON AS THE PRICING IS IN, WE'LL DO THE CHANGE ORDER AND MOBILIZE THE CONTRACTOR TO START DOING THE EARTHWORK AND THERE IS A RETAINING WALL THAT IS A PART OF THE PROJECT AND GETTING THE SITE PREPARED, READY SO WE CAN GO TO CONSTRUCTION VERY SHORTLY. AND I DEFER TO DIRECTOR MONTOYA TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE TIMING ON THAT. BUT ANYWAY, COUNCILOR IT'S ONE OF THOSE -- THIS IS A MASSIVE PROJECT, AND IN THE SENSE THAT IT GOT A LOT OF PIECES TO IT AND IT'S SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF THE SITE BUT GETTING THIS PIECE OF THE WORK DONE IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR ENSURING THAT WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASES AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR, I WILL HAVE MR. MONTOYA TALK TO YOU. >> COUNCILORS AND COUNCIL BASSAN, THAT WAS A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING THAT. AND THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD NOW TO DO THE SPLASH PAD, WE HAVE SELECTED THEM TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RETAINING WALL. BY THIS WEEK WE SHOULD HAVE A SCHEDULE FROM THEM AND FROM THE ARCHITECT WE UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE ABOUT TWO MONTHS ONCE THE WORK BEGINS AND WE ARE GIVING THEM AN EXTRA TWO WEEKS AND MY UNDERSTANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SPLASH PAD ON TO THE POOL ITSELF SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY SEPTEMBER 30. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WHAT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS STILL NEED TO BE FINALIZED FOR THIS TO GO FORWARD, ARE THERE OTHERS OR ARE WE JUST WAITING ON THE PRICE SOMETHING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR, BY AUGUST 31 WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE DESIGNS COMPLETE AND WE WILL ASEEMABLE ALL OF THE TERRIBLE WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AT THAT POINT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH PERMITTING AND THAT IS PROBABLY SCHEDULING FOR RIGHT AROUND AUGUST 31 OR SHORTLY AFTER LABOR DAY. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. WE WERE TOLD IN AN E-MAIL ON JULY 24 THAT THE CITY'S END OF STAGE ZERO PROCESS COULD BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF AUGUST, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE, AND YOU HAVE ANSWERED THAT, SO ARE THERE ANY POLICIES THAT MIGHT TAKE ME OR CONSTITUENTS OFFGUARD, DO WE ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER HOLD-UPS ON THAT? >> WE DO NOT -- WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER DELAYS ON THIS PROJECT AND DESIGN SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF AUGUST, BY LABOR, AND WE ARE ON TARGET GETTING THIS MOVING FORWARD AND GOING OUT TO BID. >> AND MR. COUNCILOR, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THERE IS ONE PIECE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE. AND THAT IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. AS A PART OF THE CIP. $6 MILLION, RIGHT? I THINK THE ONLY ONE TO BE CANDID ABOUT IT IS IF FOR SOME REASON THE BOND FAILS WHICH IS NOT USUALLY THE CASE, OUR RESIDENTS SUPPORT THE WORK BEFORE US BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW FOR THE PURPOSES OF EXPLAINING IT TO CITIZENS -- COUNCILORS KNOW THIS BUT THERE IS A $6 BOND QUESTION ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS. IF THOSE ALL HAPPEN AND EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY DELAYS BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CITIZENS DO HAVE A RIGHT TO WEIGH IN ON THE ISSUES AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THANK YOU, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT VOTERS WILL APPROVE IT FOR THIS PROJECT AND MANY OTHERS. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, A FEW MORE. DIRECTOR, WHAT WILL PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT BE? DO WE KNOW YET? I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT IT BEING AN AUDITORIUM OR THE OUTDOOR POOL, HAVE WE SLIT IF ID THAT OPTION YET? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, LET ME START BY SAYING I KNOW YOU ARE INVITING TO A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT PHASE 1 OR PHASE 2 OR WITH AN ADDED ALTERNATE. I DON'T THINK THAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE YET. I THINK AS A GROUP WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT FUNDING WE HAVE IN PLACE AND DETERMINE WHETHER WE DO THE OUTDOOR POOL AS PHASE 1 OR THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT OF THAT PHASE OR THE AUDITORIUM AS PHASE 1, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE SECURED ALL OF THE FUNDING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE UNTIL WE BID THIS PROJECT OUT, AS A GROUP A DECISION WILL BE MADE AND MR. REAL WILL BE INVOLVED AS TO WHICH OF THE TWO WILL GO FIRST, BUT THAT DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE YET. >> THANK YOU, AND DIRECTOR THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER REPORTS THAT CERTAIN UPPER MANAGEMENT IN THE CITY HAS TOLD PEOPLE WHAT WE ARE BUILDING IS A SPLASH PAD AND A THREE-LAIN POOL FOR LAP SWIMMING. IS THERE A REASON PEOPLE ARE DESCRIBING THAT AS THE PROJECT WE ARE BUILDING BECAUSE I CAN COMMENT FROM THE DESIGNS WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT. >> MR. REAL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT'S A LONG LAP POOL, JUST KIDDING. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS GOING ABOUT THIS. MR. MONTOYA AND I TALKED TO OUR OTHER COLLEAGUE, DIRECTOR SANCHEZ FROM SENIOR AFFAIRS. I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITHIN HER DEPARTMENT AT THE SENIOR CENTER. SO WE DESCRIBED TO HER WHAT THE PROJECT IS, AND INFORMED THE STAFF SO SHE CAN BE A BIT MORE ACCURATE ABOUT WHAT THEY TELL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. BUT THIS PROJECT IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST A LAP POOL AND A SPLASH PAD. >> THANK YOU. I THOROUGHLY AGREE. FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO KNOW, THE WEBSITE FOR THE PROJECT HAS PICTURES OF MORE THAN A THREE-LANE LAP POOL BUT WHICH WILL THIS BE SCHEDULED FOR A RIBBER CUTTEN. RIBBON CUTTING. >> ASSUMING NO EARTHQUAKE OR WIND STORM, AUGUST 31. >> THANK YOU, THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING FOR PEOPLE AS WELL. I'M EXCITED THAT THE LEVELING OF THE LOT WILL HAPPEN AND I APPRECIATE THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED THIS WEEK AND I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS AND I'M SURE THAT PUBLIC IS GOING TO APPRECIATE IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ROLL THIS INTO PHASE 1 AND ALTERNATES WHERE THERE ARE NOT A COUPLE OF YEARS OF DELAY, SO I WANT TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE UP AND UP BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT LARGE PROJECTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. ONE OF THOSE IS THE STADIUM -- >> COUNCILOR, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN FOLLOW-UP ON ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> OH, CERTAINLY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE PRESIDENT, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT FOR THE CITY. MR. REAL, IF YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE IS A BOND PACKAGE AND PLUS OR MINUS A MILLION -- BALLOT, AND -- I REALIZE WE ALWAYS DO FAZING ON BIG DESIGNS SO WE CAN SHOW PEOPLE WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND BUILD PROJECTS BUT IT'S A LITTLE -- WE HAVE HAD SOME MONEY IN THIS ALREADY BUT IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL FOR OUR PROCESS FOR US TO BE THIS FAR ALONG WITHOUT HAVING THE DOLLARS OR THE FINAL VOTER APPROVAL AND WE HAVE NOT SOLD THE BONDS YET AND THAT SORT OF THING. HOW DETERMINE NATIVE IS IT THAT THE BALLOT INITIATIVE PASS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS UNUSUAL IN THE SENSE THAT -- BUT NOT THAT WE'VE NOT DONE THAT BEFORE, SO I WANT TO PREFACE THAT. WE HAVE DONE OTHER PROJECTS IN SOME WAYS IN THE SAME WAY. THIS PROJECT IN CURRENT DOLLARS -- AND I WILL ASK MR. MONTOYA TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT $46 MILLION ON HAND OF FUNDS FROM DIFFERENT IF YOU WILL FUNDING SOURCES. THE STATE, ET CETERA, AND LOCAL, AND THE MONEY WE HAVE AT THE CITY. THE PROJECT -- THE BOND QUESTION HAS ANOTHER $6 MILLION BRINGING THE PROJECT BUDGET UP TO ABOUT $52 MILLION. THE AT LEAST THE ESTIMATES WE ARE RECEIVING IS THAT -- AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 56 AND 58 MILLION, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S STILL NOT 100% FUNDED BUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET DONE IS DO SOME WORK ON DETERMINING WHAT THE NEXT PHASE IS AND ASSUMING IT IS WITHIN THE 46 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TODAY, THEN WE CAN OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PIECE. AND PROBABLY LOOK AT SOME PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE ALTERNATE FOR PHASE 2 AND PHASE 3. PENDING APPROVAL OF FUNDS FROM THE BOND QUESTION. THIS IS AN 18 TO MAYBE 24-MONTH CONSTRUCTION PERIOD ONCE WE START SO WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE BOND ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER AND THEN THE FUNDING FROM THE BOND PROCEEDS, ASSUMING IT'S APPROVED ARE PROBABLY AVAILABLE IN MARCH, FEBRUARY OR THE MARCH/APRIL TIME FRAME OF NEXT YEAR. SO SEQUENTIALLY I THINK IT ALL WORKS BUT THE IRONY IS SCOPING THIS FIRST PHASE IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON IF SOMETHING DOESN'T COME TOGETHER YOU WANT A PROGRAM THAT WORKS IN ITSELF. >> MADAM -- I JUST WANT TO ASK AND FOLLOW-UP AND MAKE THAT CLEAR. IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR IN YOUR DISTRICT AND IT'S BEEN YOUR PRIORITY FOR A WHILE ON THE CIP THE MAYOR HAS BEEN CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING THIS DONE AND FAZING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY SO WE CAN WORK ON IT AND SHOW PROGRESS WHILE WE ARE CLEANING UP THE BACK END IN THE FINANCES DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S RELYING ON CAPITAL OUTLAY OR VOTING BOND, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE VOTERS OUT THERE HEARING THIS PROCESS. THE PLANNING ARE STILL MOVING AND WE ARE SCOPING AND PHASING IT AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP IT WAITING ON NOVEMBER. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN GET DON- >> MR. PRESIDENT, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE INCLUDING THE MONEY TO BE PAID FOR DESIGN AND WHATNOT, AT LEAST 38 MILLION IN THE BANK, WHETHER IT'S THE 38 OR THE 44 THAT IS WHERE IT GETS INTO THE MUD OR HAVE WE SPENT IT ON DESIGN OR NOT BUT THERE IS IN MY OPINION -- $38 SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE PROGRESS AND START WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK HOW WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY PHASE IT SO WE CAN ENSURE WHATEVER MONEY WE HAVE ON HAND IN THE BANK HIM WE ARE WORKING ON ENSURING THAT THAT PORTION CAN AT LEAST BE COMPLETED. HOWEVER, THE ETERNAL OPTIMIST IN ME AND WHAT I TELL THE ADMINISTRATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PHASE IT BECAUSE I WANT US TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THE FINAL FUNDING SO THE TOTAL DOLLARS AMOUNT IS GATHERED FOR THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, SO GOING BACK TO ONE OR THE OTHER LARGE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT HAPPENED IN JULY, WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE UNITED STADIUM HAVING A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AT VALENCIA PARK, AND THE CONSTITUENTS WHO REACH OUT TO ME BY E-MAIL AND TEXT AND PHONE CALLS BECAUSE I HAVE RECEIVES A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE ON THAT I WANT TO ANSWER FOR ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND TELL THEM IKNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, BECAUI HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS UNTIL LAST WEEK WHEN I DID SPEAK TO MR. REAL. BECAUSE OF THAT ANSWER I WANT TO CONTINUE AGAIN IN ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND MR. REAL DID A GREAT JOB OF ANSWERING THOSE AT OUR MEETING BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOR DETAILS ABOUT WHAT -- MORE DETAILSABOUT WHAT THE D WHAT AND WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE NOTE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT MY SUGGESTION, WHICH IS JUST A SUGGESTION, IS TO HAVE MEETINGS AND LISTEN TO WHAT CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE. SO I'M DEFINITELY HOPING WHEN THE REDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS OCCUR, THERE IS A LOT OF LISTENING GOING ON. BUT GOING TO MY QUESTIONS, MR. REAL, WHEN IS THE ADMIN GOING TO HOLD MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC AND WHEN ARE THEY SCHEDULED TO OCCUR AND WHERE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, FIRST AND FOREMOST I DID READ YOUR OP-ED AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU, LOOK, I THINK ON A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE REAL TRIAL AND THE STADIUM AND AQUATIC PARK ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN YOUR DISTRICT ARE ALL SUPER IMPORTANT. I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE TRAIL AND THE SOCCER STADIUM AND NORTH DOMINGO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN YOUR OWN HEADLINE BECAUSE OFTEN THE PRESS PICKS THEIR OWN, BUT THE STADIUM HAS BEEN -- IS A PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS IF YOU WILL TO GIVE NOT ONLY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC AND PARTICULARLY NEIGHBORHOODS ET CETERA TO WEIGH IN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT OUR IDO PROCESS WORKS. IN ORDER TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY LOCATING THE STADIUM IN OR AROUND BALLOON FIESTA PARK, THERE IS SOME LAND-USE STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO ENSURE THAT WE AMEND THE LAND USE PLAN THAT GOVERNS RIGHT NOW THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK. IT IS REQUIRING US TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS THAT WILL INVOLVE NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE FACT THAT THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW PROHIBITS THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN OUTDOOR STADIUM OR PLACING AN OUTDOOR STADIUM ON THE SITE. IN ORDER TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION WE WOULD NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THE BALLOON FIESTA MASTER PLAN WHICH REQUIRES A PUBLIC PROCESS, AND TYPICALLY WITH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AS YOU ALL KNOW, ONCE YOU START IN DEVELOPING IF YOU WILL OR AMENDING THESE MASTER PLANS, THE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE IS WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE? AND WHAT ARE ALL OF THE DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE AGREEING TO IF YOU WILL OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER OR IN THIS CASE THE OWNER OF THE UNITED TEAM AND HIS STAFF, HIS REPRESENTATIVES, TO DEVELOP A SITE PLAN SO THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE PUBLIC PROCESS OF INFORMING THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE DESIRE TO AMEND THE PLAN AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION ON HAND SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. INCLUDED IN THAT IS ALSO SUCH THINGS AS TRAFFIC STUDIES IF YOU WILL. NOISE AND LIGHTING STUDIES IF YOU WILL BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE FACILITY THAT IS BEING CONTEMPLATED. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS BEING GATHERED BUT WHAT I TOLD COUNCILOR BASSAN LAST WEEK IS OUR GOAL IS PER THE IDO IS TO HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE APPROPRIATE NEIGHBORHOODS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BALLOON FIESTA PARK AND BEGIN THE DISCUSSION OF AMENDING THE MASTER PLAN TO PERMIT A FACILITY LIKE THIS TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE. THOSE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AS PER THE IPO WILL OCCUR IN THE NEXT SEVEN TO TEN DAYS, WE'LL SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND MY SENSE AFTER BEING AROUND IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK IN PARTICULAR THAT I'M SURE WE ARE GOING GET AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHICH IS CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE AND FINE WITH US WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WITH THE PROJECT IF YOU WILL PARTICIPANTS. WE'LL SCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. ONCE THOSE MEETINGS OCCUR DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATION AS IT RELATING TO CHANGES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON BEHALF OF YOU ALL AS THE GOVERNS BODY AND THE LAND USE BODY TO REVIEW THAT. AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION, AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT. IF IN FACT THE EPC APPROVES THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT CONVERSATION ON THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT. BUT IT IS OUR INTENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN TO FOLLOW THE IPO PROCESS AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS HERE VERY SHORTLY. KEEP IN MIND I WOULD SAY AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PROJECT IS A PRIVATELY FINANCED SOCCER STADIUM. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS DEVELOP A LAND LEASE WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE TEAM TO LEASE THE PROPERTY WHERE THE ACTUAL STADIUM WILL GO TO THE TEAM, MUCH LIKE WE DO TO SOME EXTENT ON MANY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE. A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT DEAL THAN WHAT WE DID WITH ISOTOPES BUT ACTUALLY, ISOTOPES DOES PAY US A LEASE TO THE USE OF THE FACILITY AND IN THIS CASE THEY WOULD BE PAYING US FOR LEASE FOR THE USE OF THE LAND. WE DO HAVE PUBLIC FUNDS AVAILABLE TO THE LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE SITE AND ALSO TO THE BEFLT OF BF THE PARK. THAT WOULD BE WATER AND SEWER LINES. AS YOU KNOW DURING THE FIESTA WE HAVE A LOT OF EXTENSION CORDS AND GENERATORS AND THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT THE SAFEST THING GIVEN THE SIZE AND LIABILITY THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT GO TO THE PARK FOR THAT EVENT AND MANY OTHERS. SO WE WOULD BE BUILDING A LOT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE PARK TO BENEFIT THE PARK AND THE CITY IN THE LONG TERM. THESE ARE ALL STATE DOLLARS APPROPRIATED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO OR THREE, FOUR SESSIONS OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. IN PARTICULAR, ONE POINT THAT I THINK IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AND THAT IS THAT PART OF THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES LOOKING AT BATHROOMS FOR THE FACILITY. THEY ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED AS A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RIGHT NOW AS YOU ALL KNOW THEY ARE JUST PORTA POTTIES FOR THE FIESTA SO A LOT OF THIS IS INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE FIESTA BUT ALSO THE PARK AND EVENTUALLY IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WE WILL BE IN A SITUATION WHERE CAN ENTER INTO A LEASE AND HAVE A PRIVATELY FINANCED FACILITY THERE AT THE PARK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND FRANKLY THE ENTIRE STATE. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. REAL, HE ANSWERED ALL OF MY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND THEN SOME. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT THAT I HAD TWICE AS MANY QUESTIONS LAST WEEK SO I DID SHORTEN IT FOR THIS MEET. THANK YOU, MR. REAL. >> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR LEWIS OR SANCHEZ? SORRY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ANYONE TALKED TO THE ABOUT A BALLOO FIESTA AND WHAT THEIR OPINION ABOUT IT, I HAVE HEARD A ROAMER SINCE THEY ARE THEIR OWN ENTITY CAN PACK UP AND TAKE EVERYTHING TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND LEAVE US HIGH AND DRY FOR THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS THAT THE BALLOON FIESTA GENERATES. SO WHAT IS THE BALLOON FIESTA'S RESPONSE TO THIS STADIUM? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE FIESTA OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE MONTHS ABOUT THIS IDEA AND THIS CONCEPT. THEY WERE ACTUALLY PRESENT WHEN WE MADE THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT. THEY ARE APART OF THE GROUP, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ OF CONSTITUENTS WE WILL BE CONSULTING IMMEDIATELY ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BALLOON FIESTA BOARD AND PROVIDING THEM WITH THE SAME INFORMATION WE WILL BE PROVIDING TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SITE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS FACILITY FROM THEM. AND I THINK WHAT WE'LL PRESENT TO THEM WILL BE QUITE FRANKLY I THINK VIEWED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO QUITE FRANKLY NOT ONLY MAKE THE PARK A LOT MORE USABLE AND BETTER FOR THE FIESTA BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT HOW THE FACILITY ITSELF MIGHT BE AN ACTUAL BENEFIT TO THE PARK AND TO THE FIESTA SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS ABILITY TO PROVIDE AS I SAID EARLIER BATHROOMS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR USE DURING THE FIESTA AND FOR THE STADIUM ITSELF. OR ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES AS WE EXPERIENCED LAST YEAR WITH THE FIESTA WAS QUITE FRANKLY FINDING A PLACE TO SHELTER IN PLACE IN CASE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER. WHEN YOU HAVE A FACILITY OF THIS SIDE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A SIZABLE CROWD, PLACES LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE THE FACILITY A WIN-WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND FOR THE FIESTA AND FOR THE TEAM. AND OF COURSE UNTIL WE GET TO THE DETAILS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE'LL PRESENT THOSE, AND I WOULD SAY LOOK, THE CITY HAS INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MAKING THE FIESTA PARK A CLASS-A FACILITY. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED FROM AN ADMINISTRATION STAND-POINT AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY OF HAVING THE FIESTA RELOCATE TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY. -- BUT AT LEAST FROM THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH THE PRESIDENT, THEY'VE ASSURED US THAT IS NOT THEIR INTENT. THEY LIKE BEING HERE AND WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL PLACES TO LAND BALLOONS. MORE LANDING SITES AND WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH PUBLIC AGENCIES LIKE APS AND OTHERS TO REMOVE POWER LINES FROM SOCCER FIELDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS SO THAT DURING FIESTA IF BALLOONS NEED TO MAKE LANDINGS THEY CAN USE PUBLIC SPACES LIKE THOSE AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND MORE LANDING SITES IN THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. SO, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM AND ATTEMPTING TO ENSURE THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS A GOOD SITUATION FOR ALL OF US CONCERNED. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR, I HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT. YOU WERE SAYING -- YOU NEVER REALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY MEETINGS THERE WOULD BE BETWEEN ADMIN AND CONSTITUENTS. WHAT IS THAT PLAN? AND THEN A FOLLOW-UP. ARE YOU PLANNING ON GETTING THIS IPO OR THIS MASTER PLAN CHANGED IN THIS NEXT SESSION OF THE IDO CHANGE OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A YEAR-AND A HALF PLANNING KIND OF THING? BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE RUSHED THROUGH. THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND EVERYONE IS BUYING INTO, AND FIRST OF ALL, UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, HOW THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR IT AND IT'S PRIVATELY PAID FOR. ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND A REAL GOOD PLAN IS SET IN MOTION BEFORE IT'S RUSHED THROUGH. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, LET ME GO BACK AND SAY THE IDO PROCESS THAT IS OUR ZONING PROCESS, REQUIRES ON ANY PROJECTS WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT OR PRIVATE SECTOR HAVE, IF YOU WILL, DISCUSSIONS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS PRE, AND IN THE MIDDLE, PRESENTATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A MINIMUM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- THE FIRST CONVERSATION ABOUT BE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. THAT IS JUST WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE RULE. SO AT A MINIMUM THERE WOULD BE ONE MEETING AND THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IF THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE COULD MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO GARNER SUPPORT OR SEE HOW WE COULD MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS WHAT THE PROCESS REQUIRES NOW, AND JUST SO YOU WILL NOTE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE PUBLIC BODY THAT WILL HEAR THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLAN AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS I SUSPECT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH INTEREST GROUPS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND QUITE FRANKLY WE INTEND TO TRY AND SUBMIT THIS TO THE EPC AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, PROBABLY OCTOBER TIME FRAME, AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME CONVERSATIONS OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WITH THE COMMUNITY AT VARIOUS LEVELS AND THESE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE OBVIOUSLY VERY PUBLIC. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT THEY ARE VERY, VERY PUBLIC. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? >> SORRY. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT? >> MM-HMM? >> ONE THING I WOULD SAY, YOU TOUCHED ON LIGHTING, SOUND AND TRAFFIC AND ANOTHER IS PARKING. AND I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL IDEAS AND OPTIONS BUT DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE DETAILS AND WOULD YOU ALSO MAKE SURE I RECEIVE NOTIFICATION OF WHEN THE MEETINGS OCCUR BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE IN ATTENDANCE BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO BE A LIAISON BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND KEEP MY THUMB ON IT AS BEST I CAN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, THAT IS GREAT. COUNCILORFIEBELKORN. >> I THINK I SAW THE DIRECTOR UP THERE EARLIER -- COME ON DOWN. I STOPPED BY THE SHELTER THE OTHER DAY, AND AS ALWAYS, WE HAVE TOO MANY ANIMALS. I DID HEAR THERE WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL SPAY AND MUTER CLINIC WHILE WE WERE ON BREAK, AND I JUST WANTED TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM YOU ON HOW IT WENT AND HOW MANY ANIMALS WERE SERVICED AND WAS IT A SUCCESS. >> YES, IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS AND OCCURRED BETWEEN JULY 7 AND JULY 9, OUR GOAL WAS TO SPAY AND NEUTER 200 AND WE DID 196 PETS NOT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TAKE ON MORE BUT SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP. SO NOW WE KNOW OUR FIRST ANNUAL, AND LIVE AND LEARN, NEXT TIME WE'LL OVERSCHEDULE AND I THINK WE WILL HIT OUR 200 TARGET. THIS IS DEFINITELY A POWER OF US KIND OF MENTALITY. MANY GROUPS GOT TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE OUTSOURCED TO A GROUP CALLED ANIMAL BALANCE THAT BROUGHT IN TWO VET TEAMS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND WE SET UP WITH A MAX UNIT AT THE FIRE ACADEMY, SO WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE CHIEF AND HER TEAM. THEY HELPED US FIND THE PERFECT FACILITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. IT WAS A DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE WHERE WE BROUGHT IN THE PETS AND THEY NEUTERED THEM AND ALLOWED THE PET PARENTS TO PICK THEM UP AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE HAD ABOUT 30 VOLUNTEERS AND IT REALLY WAS CREATED TO SUPPLEMENT OUR PET CARE CLINIC ON THE EAST SIDE. SO WE REALLY WENT INTO ABOUT HAVING THIS DONE AT WEST SIDE TO WE WOULD HAVE MORE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE CITY. WE PLAN TO DO THIS AT LEAST THREE TIME AS YEAR BUT ABSOLUTELY AS MUCH AS BUDGET AND TIME ALLOWS. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF HOW IT ROLLED OUT. OF COURSE, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF PROMOTION FOR IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ROLLED OUT AS WELL AS WE HOPED IT COULD, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SCHEDULING THE SECOND ONE IN THE LATE FALL-WINTER MONTHS TO GET AHEAD OF THAT SPRING OVERCROWDING OF OUR PETS. >> YEAH. THANK YOU, AND SO WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH ANIMAL BALANCE AGAIN TO DO THESE IN THE FALL AND THEN MAYBE THREE OR FOUR TIMES NEXT YEAR AS WELL? >> YES, YES. SO THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE IT AT LEAST THREE TIMES DURING THE FISCAL YEAR BUT ABSOLUTELY THREE TIMES DURING A CALENDAR YEAR. EVERY EVENT WE WILL BE DOING 200 SPAY AND NEUTERS. RIGHT NOW IN OUR PET CARE CLINIC WE ARE DOING ABOUT 100 A WEEK SO WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY BROUGHT DOWN OUR LOTTERY WAIT LIST, CURRENTLY WE HAVE 1600 IN OUR LOTTERY WAIT LIST AND THAT IS HOW WE SCHEDULE OUT, IS WE HIT THAT LOTTERY FIRST. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE JUST HAVE TOO MANY UNSPAYED AND UNNEUTERRED ANIMALS RUNNING AROUND OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M GLAD THERE IS A PLAN. I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON OUR VETERINARY STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE SHORT STAFFED AND THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET THE POSITIONS FILLED SO CAN YOU UPDATE ME ON THE VETERINARIANS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY, NOT THE HIGH VOLUME LIKE THESE EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE. >> YES, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE IF WE ARE GOING TO START RECRUITING VETS. I'M WORKING WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT CLOSELY AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE SENSE OF URGENCY AROUND US HIRING VETS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 2.5 VETS TO SERVE OVER 1,000 PETS IN THE SHELTER RIGHT NOW AND IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. WE DO CONTRACT OUT VETS BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THE POSITIONS FILLED SO WE CAN ATTACK THIS ISSUE ON A GRANDER SCALE. WE DO HAVE SOME INTEREST, BUT AGAIN THE MAJOR ISSUE IS THE PAY. RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT COMPETITIVE AND I KNOW THAT THE H.R. DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY BEEN LOOKING ON THE RESEARCH TO MAKE US COMPETITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL POSITIONS, NOT JUST THE VETS BUT THE VETS ARE DEFINITELY A PRIORITY. >> THANK YOU, AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS BECAUSE WE PASSED A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR THAT MAKES IT SOMEWHAT EASIER FOR VETERINARIANS WHO ARE OUT OF STATE WITH OUT-OF-STATE LICENSES TO COME HERE AND WORK IMMEDIATELY, AND WE WERE ABLE TO RUN WITH IT, SO I THINK THE ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT IS DOING OUT-OF-THE OF BOX THINKING. A FRIEND IN FLORIDA JUST SENT ME TODAY ONE OF YOUR ADVERTISEMENTS ON A NATIONAL FRONT TO GET MORE STAFF HERE, AND SO WAY TO GO. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN SOME MORE TRAINING AND YOU ARE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATION AROUND SHELTER MANAGEMENT. I WOULD LOVE FOR TO YOU SHARE WITH THE OTHER COUNCILORS THAT OPPORTUNITY AND HOW YOU ARE DOING IN THAT TRAINING. >> MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I CAME TO RUN ANIMAL WELFARE WITHOUT SHELTER EXPERIENCE. MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE WAS AROUND BUSINESS AND NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BUT I WAS ABLE TO DO OVER THIS LAST SIX MONTHS WAS ATTEND A MASTERS LEVEL CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THROUGH SOUTHERN UTAH UNIVERSITY AND I WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE MY ANIMAL WELFARE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP CERTIFICATION. IT WAS A -- I RECEIVED SIX CREDIT HOURS FOR THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IT'S SO ESSENTIAL FOR CONTINUING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX WITH ANIMAL WELFARE, I WILL BE PARLAYING THAT INTO A MASTERS PROGRAM STARTING IN OCTOBER THAT IS AN INTEREST DISCIPLINARY PROGRAM, A TRY FOCUS ON MODERN-DAY ANIMAL WELFARE, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND LEADERSHIP. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU FOR TELLING US ABOUT THAT. I THINK WE ARE ALL PROUD OF YOU FOR DOING THAT AND YOU ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A REALLY TALENTED DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU GIVING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY TO OUR ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY -- NO NO MA'AM SORRY DIRECTOR YOU ARE FINE, AND -- I WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND COMMEND MEMBERS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY. QUITE A BIG EVENT DOWN THERE AND YOU NOT ONLY RESPONDED TO MY COLORFUL TEXT QUICKLY BUT WITH THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE ALL SCREAMING AT US TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS ON FIRE, BUT THEY DID A FABULOUS JOB CONTAINING THAT GIVEN THE WINDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHO GAVE OUT THE ALERTS ON WHAT FOLKS NEEDED TO DO. IT WAS A LOT OF COORDINATION AND THE WATER FOLKS AND EVERYONE SHOWS UP ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND IT REALLY DID MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, AND WE ARE GLAD THAT MESA DEL SOL DID NOT BURN DOWN, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND SENT OUR CONGRATS TO THE UNITS AND EVERYONE. >> AND MR. . PRESIDENT IF I MIGHTJUST ADD ON FOR ALL OUT OF. IT OCCURRED TO ME YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS YESTERDAY, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A FRESHEN UP FOR ALL OF THE EMERGENCIES IF YOU WILL THAT OCCUR. MOST OF THE TIME YOU GET THE CALLS OFTEN TIMES BEFORE I DO, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL AT LEAST WANTING TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO TO CALL AND WHAT TO DO, AND I HAVE ASKED OUR EMERGENCY INFORMATION OFFICER TO SCHEDULE TO GIVER USA BASE LINE WHEN THESE THINGS OCCUR WHO TO CALL SO YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITIES. BUT, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT FOR RECOGNIZING THE EFFORTS OF THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS. IT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENT AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEÑA? >> UM, THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT DAVIS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALSO I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY PHENOMENAL. WE WERE UP THERE SEEING THE SMALL FIRE AND WE WERE UP THERE AS IT STARTING TO GROW AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN AIRPLANE CRASH OR WHAT BUT THE WAY YOU RESPONDED AND WE HAD TONS OF CARS FLYING BY US AS WE WERE DRIVING FROM FIRE RESCUE, AND WE KNEW IT WAS SOMETHING SERIOUS, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU MR. REAL, THE TYPICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DID THAT IMPACT SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY? I THINK LAST YEAR OF THIS YEAR WE PUT SOMETHING FORWARD SAYING THERE WERE ONLY THREE MEN WERE TRUCK AND WE USED TO HAVE FOUR, SO IT WAS AWESOME BUT MADE BE WONDER IF WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR ADDRESSING THE ISSUES WE ARE HAVING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND DID IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE HAVING THE THREE-MAN RATHER THAN THE FOUR-MAN TRUCKS? >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. AND PRESIDENT DAVIS. SO WE -- WE ALWAYS STAFF TWO OF THEM AT MINIMUM LEVELS AND WE PREFER STAFFING AT MINIMUM LEVELS AND WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO STAFF AN ENGINE WITH A LIETENANT, A DRIVER AND TWO FIREFIGHTERS AND I'VE BEEN UP HERE TALKING WITH COUNCIL BEFORE, AND TALK WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION ABOUT OUR OVERTIME. WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL ON DUTY TO STAFF WE CALL IN OVERTIME TO BE FULLY STAFFED. AS FAR AS LAST NIGHT OR YESTERDAY WE HAD TWO INCIDENTS GOING ON. WE HAD THE ACTUAL FIRE AT THE FACILITY AND IT JUMPED THE ROAD AND CREATED A WILD BURN INCIDENT AND WE HAD TO DISPATCH THAT TASK FORCE TO THE INCIDENT. AND THAT DOES TRAIN OUR RESOURCES AND THAT IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF OUR APPARATUS ARE FULLY STAFFED AND IN SERVICE SO WE ARE NOT SHUTTING A TRUCK DOWN FOR SERVICE. AND THERE WAS A POINT WHERE WE CALCULATED WE HAD ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR DEPARTMENT WORKING ON THAT INCIDENT AND THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE COUNTIES THAT ALSO ASSISTED US. SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THE NEIGHBORING FIRE STATIONS WILL RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES. SOMETIMES WE RELOCATE, IF THERE IS LIKE A HUGE DRAIN IN THE SOUTHEAST BECAUSE IT WAS IN THAT SOUTHEAST AREA, WE'LL RELOCATE TO KIND OF COVER THE AREAS FOR RESPONSE FROM OTHER AREAS OF TOWN. JUST TO MAKE DO AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT AS FAR AS OUR STAFFING LEVELS WE HAD PERSONNEL ON THE TRUCKS TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND EVERYBODY WAS WORKING THAT WAS ON THE INCIDENT WHEN I GOT THERE. EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE INCIDENT WAS DOING SOME TYPE OF WORK. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GLAD THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT RECOGNIZED YOU GUYS. I THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME, THE FIRE WAS TERRIBLE BUT YOUR RESPONSE WAS AWESOME. >> THANK YOU. >> SO THANK YOU, THAT WAS IT, AND I JUST HAD DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO THE DIRECTOR -- I GUESS IT'S MR. REAL, BUT THE COUNTY HAS A PHENOMENAL SPORTS PROGRAMS AFTER SCHOOLS AND TALK AT ADCD AND THEY TALK WITH KIDS WHO REALLY NEED THOSE ACTIVITIES AND I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB AT HAVING PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION EFFORTS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND I REMEMBER HOW MANY MANY WOULD FIT IN THE BUILDING SHOWED UP AND NOW I KNOW BECAUSE OF LIABILITY ISSUES WE CAN'T DO THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW AS A CITY, IF WE DO IT OR DON'T DO IT -- YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START DOING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS, AND JUST LOOK AT WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING BECAUSE NOW IF YOU ARE IN THE PROGRAM AND YOU HAVE A GAME, YOU GO OVER TO -- AND WE HAVE SO MANY HERE IN THE CITY WHETHER IT BE APS OR OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS TO KEEP OUR KIDS OUT OF TROUBLE SO WE ARE NOT FACING ALL OF THE THINGS WE ARE FACING NOW. I I REALIZE IT'S NOT -- I JUST THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY AND I'M HOPING WE CAN DWET GET TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY AND APS. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ALAMOSA SCHOOL, A TITLE I. SCHOOL AND THERE ARE LOTS OF NEEDS THERE, AND I HAVE A GYM ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND THIS IS APS -- SO IT'S NOT DIRECTED TO YOU, BUT WE HAVE A GYM AND IT'S LOCKED AFTERHOURS AND -- SEEMS LIKE A NO-BRAINER FOR US AS A CITY TO KIND OF COLLABORATE AND MAKE SURE WE IGNITE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES FOR UNDERSERVED YOUTH IN OUR AREA. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR PEÑA, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I KNOW ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE MAYOR HAS REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO LOOK AT HOW WE CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH APS IN PARTICULAR AND WITH THE COUNTY IN PROVIDING SOME GOOD PROGRAMS AND ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS FOR OUR YOUTH AS A WHOLE. MR. MARTINEZ, JEFF, MARTINEZ WHO RUNS OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS AND IS NOW MS. CATA-SANDOVAL WHO IS HERE AS WELL, REALLY GROW UP IN THE EDUCATION WORLD AND HAS WORKED AT THE STATE AND WORKED AT APS AND KNOWS A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE FACILITIES. SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILOR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DO WANT TO PARTNER UP WITH APS AND PROVIDE MORE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND WITH THE COUNTY AND USE OUR FACILITIES TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS IN SOME OF THE AREAS AND WE DO HAVE JOINT-USE AGREEMENTS NO QUESTION, BUT AS YOU MENTIONED WITH THE GYMNASIUM, AS ONE EXAMPLE, I'M IN THE SURE IF IT'S AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD INITIATIVE, BUT A ONE-OFF. ONE SCHOOL MIGHT BE OKAY, AND FROM MY PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENT ON THIS ISSUE, I KNOW SOMETIMES A LOT OF IT IS SITE-BASED CONTROL WITH THE PRINCIPALS AT THE SCHOOL. AND THEY MANAGE THE FACILITIES AND IN CASES WE ARE ABLE TO DO GREAT THINGS AND IN OTHER CASES NOT SO MUCH. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AND VISIT WITH YOU AND HAVE JEFF AND CATA GET TOGETHER WITH YOU. >> THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP AND I KNOW APS IS DOING THIS AND THEY ARE CHARGING A RENTAL FEE AND WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY FIGURE OUT A WAY THIS WHOLE ANTI-DONATION THING, I THINK WE SHOULD GET RID OF IT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO PARTNER MORE WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE NEIGHBORING US. BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE CHARGING FEES AND I KNOW APS IS CHARGING LIKE -- THESE NONPROFITS BECAUSE THE CITY CANNOT NECESSARILY RUN THE BASKETBALL PROGRAMS SO SOMETIMES THEY PARTNER WITH NONPROFITS TO RUN THE BASKETBALL OR SOCCER PRACTICES AND IN ORDER TO USE THE FACILITIES THEY ARE BEING CHARGED LIKE A $2,000 FEE FOR THE NONPROFIT THAT ARE PROVIDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS -- IT SEEMS RIDICULOUS, RIGHT? IT DOES SEEM RIDICULOUS THAT WE ARE TIPTOEING AROUND THIS ANTI-DONATION WHEN WE PARTNER WITH THIS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR OUR KIDS AND WE HELP TO SPONSOR THEM AND DO ALL OF THESE THINGS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEM USING A GYM, THEY HAVE TO PAY US $2,000 AND THAT MAKES IT UNATTAINABLE AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD AND SO DON'T DO IT AND THE UNDERSERVED KIDS ARE GOING TO RAYMOND J. SANCHEZ OR PARADISE HILLS AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE BETTER. AND I WILL JUST SAY I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AND REACHING OUT TO THE COUNTY AND APS AND GETTING SOME THINGS -- SO I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST OF MY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN I REALLY TODAY. WE DID NOT A GROUND BREAKING BUT AN UNVEILING OF A PROGRAM WE HAVE FOR THE NEON SIGNS ON CENTRAL, IN YOUR HOOD, AND THE MAYOR AND I HAD A CHANCE TO STOP BY A BUSINESS RIGHT THERE BY THE LIBRARY, AND WE JUST TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO, THERE. I'M HOPING AS THE ADMINISTRATION CAN GO AND HAVE ZONING AND ZONING WHOEVERELSE GO OUT, THERH CANS ARE OVERFLOWING AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUSINESS BUT WE CAN MAKE THE SITE MORE CLEAN, AND THERE ARE TWO TRASH CONTAINERS THAT WERE OVERFILLED AND SPILLING. USUALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT GOING IN SAYING IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH TRASH THEN YOU NEED ANOTHER CONTAINER. SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN TOLD TO HOLD THAT BUSINESS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW IF I MAY, THE MAYOR DID TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS AND I APPRECIATE IT AND YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR SITE, WE'VE BEEN AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING AT A WAY TO CHANGE IF YOU WILL, THE MODEL THERE, IN THAT PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT. COUNCILOR DAVIS WAS THERE AS WELL WHEN WE FIRST ANNOUNCED WE WERE LOOKING AT TAKING SOME PRETTY STRONG ACTION. OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL YOU WE ARE IN COURT AND I THINK WE HAVE A HEARING OA AS A MATTER OF FACT...? -- ON TUESDAY; AND WE ARE MAKING SURE OUR ZONING FOLKS ARE OUT THERE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL CONTAINER FOR TRASH, AND THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE BUSINESS. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE DID MENTION THAT AND APPRECIATE YOU BOTH TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. >> AND MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHEN THE BUSINESSES GO IN THEY HAVE SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR LANDSCAPING AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A TOOL ONCE THEY LET ALL OF THEIR LANDSCAPING DIE. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE. BY MY PLACE WE HAD THE ALTERNATE THING AALBERTSON'S CLOSE AND THD GRASS AND TREES AND NOW THERE IS A FITNESS PLACE IN THERE BUT IN THE INTERIM EVERYTHING DIED AND IS STILL PRETTY DEAD. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING FIRST-DAY BACK, SORRY TO UNLOAD ON YOU GUYS BUT I HAD A LONG LAUNDRY LIST AND A LOT OF TIME TO THINK DURING THE BREAK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK F.M. ARMIJO. I KNOW SHE WAS BUSY AND IT WENT A LOT THAT SHE GOT BACK RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WE WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND I'M GLAD THAT EVERYONE WAS SAFE, NO INJURIES. AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR APD. I'M NOT SURE ANYONE IS HERE. I SENT THESE -- HE IS ON ZOOM? OH GOOD. GOOD GOOD GOOD! THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. LET'S SEE, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE CITY. HOW MANY CAMERAS AROUND THE CITY ARE CONNECTED TO THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER? >> SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 9,000 CAMERAS THAT ARE VISIBLE TO THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER. IT'S COMPOSED OF A MIX OF CITY, DOT CAMERAS AND APS CAMERAS. THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE BUSINESS CAMERAS IN THERE AS WELL. >> OKAY, SO THANK YOU, THAT WOULD BE MY NEXT QUESTION. ARE THERE ANY PRIVATELY OWNED CAMERAS? AND YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT CITY CAMERAS HAVE TO BE PLACED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT CAN THEY BE PLACED TO ALSO MONITOR SHOPPING CENTERS AND OTHER BUSINESSES? >> WE GENERALLY ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY INSTALL PAN, TILT AND ZOOM CAMERAS. SO THEY CAN BE INSTALLED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN AND FOCUS AND ZOOM IN ON ANY AREA THAT IS VISIBLE TO THAT CAMERA. SO IF THE CAMERA IS FIXED AND IT IS FIXED POSITION BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE, THEN WE CAN'T MOVE THAT CAMERA, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PTZ AND CAN BE TURNED TOWARD A PRIVATE BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU, AND WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE THEIR OWN CAMERAS CONNECTED TO THE REAL-TIME CAMERA CENTER? >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE. THE CITY HAS A REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER, THE CENTER UP ON THE HILL UP BY THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS INVESTED HEAVILY IN TECHNOLOGY AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE BRAIN WHERE ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND CAMERAS COME INTO. FOR SOMEONE TO SIGN UP THERE ARE TWO COMPONENT TO THE PROGRAM WE CALL "COMMUNITY CONNECT." ONE IS A REGISTRY WHERE ANYONE CAN REGISTER THEIR CAMERA AROUND THEIR HOUSE OR A CAMERA THEY OWN MAY HAVE CAPTURED -- IT LETS THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER KNOW THE LOCATION OF OF THAT CAMERA BUT THERE IS NO DIRECT CONNECTION TO THAT CAMERA IN THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY LIFE ARE THOSE CAMERAS WHICH A BUSINESS CAN REGISTER AND WE CAN OBTAIN A LIVE STREAM FROM THEIR CAMERAS AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS THEY CAN GOOGLE, ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY COLLECTOR GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND SEARCH COMMUNITY CONNECT. THAT WILL TAKE THEM TO THE WEB PAGE FOR THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM WHICH WE'LL EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL THAN I HAVE TIME HERE TO DO, AND IT WILL GIVE THEM A LINK TO E-MAIL US TO ASK FOR THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE CAMERAS AND WE WILL GET THAT E-MAIL AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. I'M GLAD THAT THERE IS A VEHICLE SO THAT WE AS PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN PUT OUR CAMERAS TOWARDS YOUR BIG BEAUTIFUL OPERATION. I HAVE SEEN IT, AND IT IS IMPRESSIVE. IT IS WORKING AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR IT. SO IF WE COULD GET MORE PEOPLE TO COMMUNICATE AND CONNECT TO IT, IT COULD HELP US, SIGNIFICANTLY, SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE FOR MR. REAL, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FISCAL YEAR '23 BUDGET AND THERE IS A LINE ITEM UNDER THE QUARTER CENT PUBLIC SAFETY TAX FOR $1.8 MILLION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATING COSTS. THIS IS A LARGE LINE. IT'S 3% OF THE QUARTER CENT PRECIPITATION, ONLY THE LINES OF EMERGENCY SHELTER CONTRACTS AND GIBSON MEDICAL CENTER ARE HIGHER. NOW THAT THE 2023 FISCAL YEAR IS OVER, I WOULD LIKE A BREAK DOWN OF HOW THE QUARTERCENT PUBLIC SAFETY TAX MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT. WHAT DO THOSE 1.8 MILLION IN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS CONSIST OF AND THEN I WILL HAVE A FEW MORE AFTER THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. FIRST, LET ME JUST SAY WE'LL YOU MORE DETAIL THAN I CAN GIVE YOU TODAY. >> OKAY. >> -- HOWEVER THAT TAX WAS IMPOSED BY THE CITY IN 2004, IT'S A PER CENT PUBLIC SAFETY TAX AND GENERATED TODAY AROUND $55, ALMOST $56 MILLION A YEAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND. AND WHEN THAT TAX WAS IMPOSED BY THE COUNCIL BACK IN 2004 IT WAS SPLIT, AND 34% RNLT TO POLICE4%E AND 34% WENT TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, IT WAS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE CITY ACTUALLY RAN THE JAIL AND 6% WENT TO CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND 26% WENT TO CRIME PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. SO THE 1.8 MILLION A PART OF THE INDIRECT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FUND I'M TOLD BY OUR BUDGET FOLKS IS SEVERAL THINGS. THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT MANAGE THE PROGRAMS IN EACH OF THE THREE OR FOUR COMPONENTS THAT I JUST -- IF YOU WILL -- TALKED ABOUT. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROCUREMENT OF GOODS AND SERVICES RELATED TO ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF -- IF YOU WILE FUNDS. THE ACCOUNTING DIVISION AND THE MANAGERS THAT RUN THE PROGRAM. BUT I ASKED OUR BUDGET OFFICE TO BREAK THOSE DOWN FOR YOU SO YOU HAVE A BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT. MOST OF THE FUNDS OBVIOUSLY AS ANY OTHER TAX WOULD GO, USUALLY IN MANY OF THESE ARE REALLY ABOUT PERSONNEL COSTS, RIGHT? HIRING ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, PAYING FOR THEM AND THEN MANAGING PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO CRIME AND PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. SO SOME PROGRAMS FOR EXAMPLE THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE TO FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, A LOT OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS, YOUTH PROGRAMS -- I WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES, THE NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS, THE RAPE CRISIS CENTER, AND MANY MORE OF THE LIKE THAT PROVIDE EITHER SERVICES THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP WITH THE PREVENTION AND/OR INTERVENTION IF YOU WILL, ASPECTS OF IT. FIRE PREPAREDNESS AND FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE WORK THEY DO, IT IS LUMPED INTO THE GENERAL FUND IF YOU WILL WITH THE REST OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE DEPARTMENTS. KEEP IN MIND IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET IS LIKE TWICE AS MUCH, SO THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, 34% OF THE 55 MILLION IS NOT A LOT BUT IT CERTAINLY HELPS AS WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER. BUT I HAVE ASKED OUR FINANCE AND BUDGET OFFICE TO GET YOU A BRIEFING ON THAT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED JUST NOW LIKE NEW DAY AND THE HOMELESS COUNCIL. UNDER THAT BREAKDOWN YOU HAVE YOUTH AND CONTRACT SUBSTANCE CONTRACTS, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES HOMELESS SUPPORT SERVICE. WOULD THOSE CONTRACTS AND DOLLARS BE UNDER THOSE LINE ITEMS? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR, I WOULD DEFER TO THE BUDGET OFFICE TO GIVE YOU A SPIFNG FORC FOR SURE BUT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE WORK THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING ARE PROBABLY IN THE PREVENTION OR INTERVENTION CATEGORY OF CRIME. >> OKAY, AND 34% OF THE TAX IS TO BE USED FOR APD. IS IT 34%, THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LINE. ARE YOU ALSO INCLUDING APD SALARIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ALSO? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S PROBABLY A PORTION THAT GOES TO THAT, IN THAT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT MANAGE THE PROGRAMS AND THE PEOPLE THAT DELIVER THE SERVICES RIGHT? SO I'M ASSUMING THERE IS BUT IT'S A SMALL PIECE OF THE DEPARTMENT BUT I'M SURE THERE IS SOME OF THAT. >> THANK YOU, I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN BECAUSE I LOOK FORWARD TO A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> SURE. >> AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. DOES THE CITY HAVE A STANDARD CALCULATION FOR OVERHEAD COSTS THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATING COST LINE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, YES, THE CITY DOES HAVE AN INDIRECT OVERHEAD COST RATE THAT WE APPLY TO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS DEPENDING ON THE NATURE AND INTENSITY OF THE PROGRAM IF YOU WILL. FOR THE MOST PART THAT IS A CALCULATION THAT IS DONE RIGHT BEFORE THE BUDGET IS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AND IT IS BASICALLY A FIGURE THAT IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. AND THEN IT'S TAKEN ACROSS THE TOP FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY RELEVANT WHEN WE HAVE CONTRACTS OR GRANTS FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GET A FEDERAL OR STATE GRANT FOR A PARTICULAR PROGRAM, LIKE ANYONE ELSE, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE EVERYONE WANTS ALL OF THE MONEY TO GO TO THE PROGRAM, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO PAY THE ADMINISTRATORS TO ENSURE THAT THE PROGRAM FUNDS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR AND THAT THE BILLS ARE PAID AND THAT THINGS ARE ORDERED. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME LEVEL OF THAT, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT, AND MS. YARA IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN HOW THAT NUMBER IS CALCULATED. >> THANK YOU, YES, I AM VERY EXCITED TO RECEIVE THAT. SO I HOPE THAT RECEIVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. AND WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT MONEY IS GOING PROPERLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE GOING AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP OUR BUSINESSES AND JUST OUR NEIGHBORS AND I GET THESE E-MAILS ALL THE TIME, AND I HOPE WE -- I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER TO HELP THEM. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS MY LAST QUESTION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THAT ENDS THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE JOINL. JOURNAL, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HANDS? OH, WE HAVE TO DO IT BY PHONE, THAT'S RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCILOR -- >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT? >> YES. >> COUNCIL LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR PEÑA? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> AND -- THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WE APPRECIATE THAT. FOLKS NEXT UP WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO OUR LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, WITH THAT. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE. >> COUNSELOR COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> AND AS NONE OF OUR COMMITTEES MET LAST MONTH THERE ARE NO REPORTS. ANY ADDITIONAL WITHDRAWALS -- ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA? COUNSELOR PEÑA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE EC23-16 OFF OF CONSENT. >> I'M SORRY, 316, 316? >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA REMOVES THAT, AND THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE ON CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AS ALWAYS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU SOON. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNSELOR BESSEN YES. >> COUNCIL BETTEN. >> YES. >> COANLER FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNTER -- >> COUNSELOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SAN THESER C SANCH. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS? >> YES. >> YOU PULLED 23-316. >> YES, I WANTED TO THANK MS. LINDSEY FROMM FOR OTHER WILLINGNESS TO SERVE ON THE MUSEUM BOARD, AS WE GET THESE CONSENT AGENDA, AND EVERYONE IN THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE IT'S JUST AWESOME THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AS WE ARE FILLING THE BOARDS AND HAVING COMMUNICATIONS ESPECIALLY AT LARGE, AS COUNCILORS CAN PICK WHOM THEY WANT, BUT WORKING WITH OUR COMMISSION ON EQUITY, OUR BOARDS STILL DO NOT REFLECT OUR COMMUNITY, AND NOT TODAY AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS THE TARGET ONE BUT WE ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND WE HAVE TO WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THAT -- THANK YOU, WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF EC-23-316. >> AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BETTEN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR GROUT? >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. > COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> AND ANNOUNCEMENTS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE WOULD BE A GOVERNMENT AND FINANCE OPERATIONS MEETING ON MONDAY, AUGUST 14TH AT 5:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >> AND A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 16TH BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER, A HYBRID MEETING SO FOR ATTENDEES AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN ATTEND IN PERSON OR ON ZOOM. >> AND WITH NO ANNOUNCEMENTS WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN PROVIDE LIVE COMMENT FOR OUR COUNCIL IN PERSON OR -- THE HIGH POINTS ARE YOU HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT AND YOUR COMMENTS ARE TO THE COUNCILORS AND PRESIDENT ONLY. COPIES OF OUR RULES ARE AVAILABLE TO VIEW AND IF WE HAVE A VIOLATION OR ISSUE, WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE AND ADDRESS THOSE AS WE GO FORWARD, THERE IS A BELL THAT WILL RING WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, AND WE HAVE ONLY ONE THIS EVENING AND SHE HASN'T JOINED US YET, SO AT THIS POINT I WILL ASK MR. CORNELIUS TO TAKE US THROUGH OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF HE CALLS YOU COME ON DOWN AND IF YOU ARE ON DECK, COME ON DOWN AND TAKE A SEAT IN THE FRONT SO WE CAN SLIDE YOU RIGHT IN. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS FRAN CESCO ARTIST. >> THANK YOU, NICE TO SEE YOU BACK. >> THANK YOU, A REAL QUICK HOUSEKEEPING NOTE, THE AUDIO AND VIDEO DON'T SYNC UP AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW ALONG, LIKE A GODZILA MOVE. >> WE'LL WORK ON THAT, AND TALK ABOUT THAT. >> EXCUSE ME, SORRY, CAN I PLEASE -- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS, THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT I LOVE ABOUT DISTRICT 9, ONE OF CHEM IS WHICH ISIT THE STREET CAT HUB, E OF THOSE IS THE SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICES THAT ARE FREE OF CHARGE BUT NONE OF THAT COULD HAPPEN IF NOT FOR YOU GUYS. AMAZING AND ON BEHALF OF OUR FURRY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T HAVE A LOVING HOME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS SUPPORT, UNANIMOUSLY WATCHING OUT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO ONE TO WATCH OUT FOR THEM. I WAS ABLE TO CATCH AND RELEASE 12 CATS THE PAST TWO YEARS AND THEY ARE LIVING THEIR BEST LIFE, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS AND CURRENTLY CAT HUB IS CURRENTLY CLOSED BECAUSE THEIR FUNDING HAS DRIED UP AND I THINK IT'S POSSIBLY LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL. MAYBE SOMEONE COULD SHAKE THE PIGGY BANK AND FIND SOME WAY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP FOR THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE AT CAT HUB TO CONTINUE TO DO THEIR WONDERFUL AND SELFLESS WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, CITY COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME WITHOUT YOU. >> IT MAY BE FOR SOME FOLKS. >> WELL, WISHING YOU ALL OF THE BEST AND THE NEXT SUCCESS IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER OF WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO. IT'S A THANKLESS JOB, AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO CONSIDER CITY COUNCIL A PART-TIME GIG BUT IT'S 24/7 COMING AT YOU, A THANKLESS JOB BUT YOU DO IT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GOOD TO SEE YOU AND I BET WE SEE EACH OTHER BEFORE WE ARE DONE AGAIN. >> THANK YOU. >> SUSAN JOHNSTON, AND FOLLOWED BY -- >> JUST A QUICK CLEAN-UP FOLLOW-UPQUESTION, YOU ARE TALKT STREET CAT HUB, E-MAIL ME AND I WILL WORK WITH YOU. IT SHOULD BE CONTINUAL FUNDING AND I KNOW THEY PROBABLY JUST DID MORE THAN THEY COULD ON SPAY AND NEUTERS BUT PLEASE GIVE ME THE DETAILS -- >> THANK YOU, THEY ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IN THIS DIFFICULT YEAR THAT JUST STARTED THERE SHOULD BE $350,000 FOR STREET CAT HUB, AND MAYBE NEXT SUMMER WE MIGHT HAVE TO SHAKE PIGGY BANKS BUT DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT OR WHAT THE GAP IS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN LET ME TALK TO OUR FOLKS. YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS SOME FUNDING AND LET US SEE AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE LAG OF THE END OF THE YEAR CLOSE-OUT THE END OF JUNE THEY ARE GETTING RAMPED UP BUT LET ME FIND OUT AND WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. >> COUNSELOR PEÑA? >> I SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, SO THANK YOU. I KNOW -- I THINK THE FIRST ONE YOU DID WAS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND THIS LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR GROUT AND IT'S HER DISTRICT IN THE BACK AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO START BRINGING IN THE DIFFERENT ONES AND SO WHEN YOU DO MINE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET RID OF ALL OF MY WRINKLES, TOO! (LAUGHTER). >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >> SUSAN JOHNSTON, KNOLLED BY FY JULIE -- >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT AND MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I'M SUSAN JOHNSTON, I LIVE IN DISTRICT 7, MARS ROAD, 87107, THIS PARK IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA OWNED BY THE CITY NORTH OF THE PARK AND A ADJACENT TO THE DIVERSION CHANNEL ARROYO. THIS IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCES NUMEROUS PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARISING FROM HIS VACANT AREA, INCLUDING HOMELESS ENCOMPMENTS, VIOLENT CRIME, SEX TRAFFICKING AND AIR QUALITY ISSUES FROM OPEN FIRES SET AT THE ENCAMPMENT. WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH THIS ITEM, AND RECENTLY THE CITY PROPOSED BUILD A DOG PARK IN THE AREA WHICH IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AND WE APPLAUD THE CITY FOR PROPOSING TO TAKE SOME ACTION BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND THIS IS WHERE MOST OF THE VIOLENT CRIME AND SEX TRAFFICKING IS OCCURRING WE DO NOT WANT A DOG PARK THERE. IT WILL SEGREGATE IT EVEN FURLTER. FURTHER. AND 43 OUT OF OUR 50 HOMEOWNS SIGNED A PETITION AGAINST THIS. WE MET WITH THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION ON THE PROPOSED DOG PARK AND WE PRESENTED HIM IN THE PETITION, WHY WE ARE AGAINST IT. WE HAVE A DEAD-END NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE CANNOT HANDLE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND HE SAID THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL PARKING, ONLY STREET PARKING -- SHOULD I FINISH OR NOT. >> FISH YOUR THOUGHT, WE HAVE TO WRAP UP. >> LET ME GO TO THIS LAST POINT, DURING OUR MEETING MR. FLORES LISTENED TO OUR OPPOSITION AND RESPONDED IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE AND EFFECTIVELY TOLD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE DID NOT ALLOW THE DOG PARK THERE WOULD BE NO SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU, AND IF YOU COULD SEND THE REST OF YOUR COMMENTS BY WRITING AND WE'LL SHARE THEM WITH OUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >> JULIE. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS. I HAVE PICTURES THAT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS WORKING. OKAY, THESE ARE PICTURES FROM OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THIS PAST TUESDAY. IT WAS A COMBINED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT BETWEEN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE, NOR IS IT INFREQUENT. IT REPRESENTS THE VOLUNTEER WORK OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. IT REPRESENTS THE GOOD WORK OF NEIGHBORHOOD VOLUNTEERS TO BUILD COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT FOR BEING AT OUR CELEBRATION. THE BAND PICTURES IS THE SECOND YEAR THEY HAVE PROVIDED MUSIC AT THE EVENT. TEEN GIRLS HAVE A LEMONADE STAND AND BAKE SALE AND THEY SELECT A CHARITY EACH YEAR, THIS YEAR TO THE CHILDREN'S CANCER FUND OF NEW MEXICO. WE PARTNERED WITH THE LOMAS TRAM TRAMWAY LIBRARY FOR THEIR SUMMER READING PROGRAM AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO PARTICIPATE, AND WE DID THE DRAWINGS FOR THE FIVE CATEGORIES TO SUPPORT THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM. WE ALSO HAD THE PROGRAM READ WITH A DOG WITH US THAT EVENING TO PROMOTE KIDS READING AGAIN TO DOGS IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M PLEASED TO SHARE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY, IN ADDITION TO THE POLICY WORK I KNOW YOU ARE AWARE OF, THE GRASSROOTS WORK THAT STRENGTHENING SOCIAL TIES. THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO REMEMBER THE WORK OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CONSIDER THEIR INPUT ON POLICY ISSUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SIMON P. FOLLOWED BY TAD L. >> LET'S SEE IF WE CAN -- YES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND VICE PRESIDENT. IT WOULD BE THREE YEARS AGO THIS AUGUST THAT ROY CATON JUNIOR WAS BRUTALLY MURDERED IN HIS HOME NEXT DOOR TO THE PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC. I WAS A NEIGHBOR OR ROYS AND A YOU ONE-TIME STUDENT AND DID WORK FOR HIM. I DON'T WANT ROY TO BE FORGOTTEN. I DON'T KNOW HOW HIS CASE HAS PROGRESSED. I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OVERWHELMED WITH CRIME ISSUES. SO I'M JUST PUTTING THIS OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC. IN ANYBODY HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS TERRIBLE CRIME, PLEASE HELP IN SOLVING IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW I HEARD THAT WE HAVE 9,000 CAMERAS THAT ARE IN TIME, I USED TO DO PUBLIC ACCESS AND PUBLIC ACCESS CAN'T DO LIVE TELEVISION. I FIND THAT RATHER INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CAN OBSERVE THE CITY FROM 9,000 CAMERAS AND WE CAN'T HAVE A STUDIO DEDICATED TO LIVE PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHERE PEOPLE WITH DO CURRENT EVENTS. AND IF I HAD A PUBLIC ACCESS ONCE A WEEK I WOULD MENTION ROY'S TRAGIC DEMISE. I BELIEVE IN PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A PODIUM TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, GOOD AND BAD. AND SO ON. I FIND IT TRAGIC THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE 9,000 PREENTLY PY WITH LIVE TV FOR THE POLICE. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY GENERATED BY FEES FROM CABLE TV. LET'S PUT THEM TO GOOD USE FOR THE PUBLIC SO WE CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY BE A BETTER PLACE. THANK YOU. >> TAD, FOLLOWED BY ANDREA C. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS TAD, WELL, WHAT GOT MY ATTENTION COMMUNITY CENTER. THE MANZANA MESA COMMUNITY CENTER. WELL, LAST WEEK FRIDAY, I HAD TO WAIT OVER THERE. I GOT THERE AT FIVE AFTER 8:00 AND I HAD TO WAIT HALF AN HOUR IN THE LINE TO GET TICKET FOR BREAKFAST. NOW I NOTICED LAST FRIDAY, THIS TIME I WENT EARLY. I STILL HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE 8:00. ALL WOMEN WITH KIDS WALKING INSIDE BEFORE 8:00. IT IS SENIORS, 80, SOME OF US 90, WITH DISABILITIES, OUTSIDE STANDING. HOW YOU LIKE THAT? ISN'T THAT DISGUSTING? ISN'T THAT DISGUSTING? NOW, A FEW MINUTES TO SOME PEOPLE, CRIPPLED WITH STREPTOCOXXUS STANDING OUTSIDE. AND THE DOOR IS OPEN FOR THE KIDS. SOMETHING NOT RIGHT. AND I STILL HAD TO WAIT. SO NOW ANOTHER THING CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, WELL, IT IS CHANGES SOME AGENDA FROM FINAL WAS MOVED INTO CONSENT AGENDA. WHY? I KNOW. TO KEEP PUBLIC FROM THIS AGENDA. AND THAT IS VIOLATING OPEN MEETING LEFT, IN ORDER, AND -- THANK YOU, AND I WILL SUE. >> MR. PRESIDENT? MR. LUMINSKI, I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT WAS MOVED TO CONSENT? WAS IT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HIPLINE TALKING ABOUT? >> THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL BILLS AND I JUST WENT THROUGH AND I CAN GET RESPONSE FROM CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, SO I FINAL FOUR DIFFERENT REQUESTS -- >> OKAY. >> I'M SORRY. >> NO, THAT'S OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I WAS ALSO UNAWARE OF THE CHANGE UNTIL I GOT HERE -- >> FOLLOW -- I -- TO PRODUCE CONSENT AGENDA, SO I'M COLLECTING EVIDENCE. >> AND AT LEAST ON THIS ONE I SAW THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ CONSENTED TO WITHDRAW THE BILL SO IT WAS NOT GOING TO COME UP -- >> ON FINAL. >> IT'S NOT CONSENT TO APPROVE, IT'S WITHDRAWN, SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO HEAR THAT BILL AT ALL. >> WHAT IS APPROVED -- >> AT LEAST ON THAT ONE, I WANTED TO -- THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANDREA, CALDERON, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT WHITE. >> WELCOME BACK COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU. I HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT IS SERIOUS AND TWO LIGHT-HEARTED ONES. I WILL START BY SAYING I'M ONE OF THREE PEOPLE OF COLOR ON THE PROGRESS COMMISSION. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT INCREASING THE DIVERSITY ON OTHER COMMISSIONS. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA ON THAT. THE SERIOUS NOTE I GUESS IS ABOUT THIS CONCEPT OF A DISPLACEMENT RISK INDEX. WE AS A CITY CAN'T MEASURE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES RIGHT NOW AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RAIL YARDS OR BARILLO TRAIL, OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND TOWN, THERE IS REALLY NO WAY TO ASSESS WANT IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT ON LEGACY RESIDENTS AND ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY NEIGHBORHOODS FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. I THINK THAT SET OF TOOL WOULD GIVE CITY LEADERS AND ADVOCATES A TOOL FOR HAVING A MORE NUANCED APPROACH TOWARDS GENTRIFICATION. IS IT HAPPENING OR NOT HAPPENING? WE CAN'T TELL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO MEASURE IT. SO JUST PUSHING THAT, AND I WOULD SAY THAT ASSESSMENT IS THE GOAL OF DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION AND SHOULD BE LOOKED AT A GOAL OF INCREASING INCENTIVES TO KEEP RESIDENTS IN PLACE. OKAY, SO ON TO MY MORE LIGHTHEARTED COMMENTS. I HAVE A DOG NAMED LISA MARIE AND SHE REALLY APPRECIATED THE CHANGES TO THE RIO GRANDE DOG PARK, SO I WANT TO THANK THE DIRECTOR. LISA AND I HAVE HAD A MUCH WARMER EXPERIENCE THERE AND EXCITED TO SEE MORE TREES AND VEGETATION IN PLACE. I WILL SAY OVER THE RECESS -- (BEEPING) OKAY, THANK YOU, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO SILVER TON, COLORADO FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY AND COUNCIL MEMBER SANCHEZ I THINK YOU WOULD APPRECIATE THAT I SAW A WILL RIDER JEEP AT THE FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION. THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO BRIDGE THE WAY. >> THANK YOU, MS. CALDERON. >> SCOTT WHITE FOLLOWED BY TIM WOODHULL. >> TIM WOODHULL? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL, AND MICHELLE ON ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF FOR ALLOWING ME A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK TO YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR RECOGNIZE RECOGNITIONFOR FOUR OF YOUR STA. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS. I ENJOY AND NEED THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PARATRANSIT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SUPERVISED BY MR. THOMAS MARTINEZ OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SENIOR AFFAIRS. THIS MOST NEEDED SERVICE FOR SENIORS CITIZENS WAS DEVELOPED BY YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR SENIOR CITIZENS FOR MEDICAL AND OTHER APPOINTMENTS TO ASSIST IN OUR MONTHLY FINANCIAL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, FOOD PURCHASE AND SOCIAL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE DEADLY VIRUS HAS ATTACKED NUMEROUS PEOPLE LEADING TO MANY DEATHS IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. IT STILL EXISTS AND IS RAISING ITS HEAD AGAIN TO ATTACK AND KILL PEOPLE. UNDER OUR GOVERNOR'S AND CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION, EMPLOYEES OF STATE GOVERNMENT AND OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE ARE GOING TO WORK TO PROVIDE SAFE ENVIRONMENTS FOR ALL CITIZENS THAT THEY SERVE. THIS LETTER IS ABOUT CIT OR CITY EMPLOYEES WHO WENT OVER AND BEYOND THEIR REQUIRED JOB DUTIES TO PROTECT AND PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR SENIOR CITIZENS THAT THEY SERVE (BEEPING) -- EIGHT HOURS A DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS AND ARE STILL PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICE TO SENIOR CITIZENS. SENIOR SERVICE IS ALSO DOING A GOOD JOB PROVIDING SERVICES TO OTHER PEOPLE, THIS IS MR. THOMAS MARTINEZ, AND MR. LEO SANTALLES AND MR. MONTOYA AND MS. SANCHEZ OF THE TRANSPORTATION DRIVERS. THESE FOUR TRANSIT DRIVERS WOULD SCRUB THEIR TRANSPORTATION VANS NIGHTLY AND SPRAY THEM WITH VIRUS GERM KILLERS AND WATCH ALL OF THE SEATS AND HAND RAILS. MR. JARVIS WILL GO DOWN ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES AND SCRUB THE VAN DOWN EVERY DAY. AND THESE FOUR WOULD USE THEIR OWN MONEY TO WASH THEIR TRANSPORTATION VANS COSTING ABOUT $8 OR $10 A WASH. THESE FOUR CITY EMPLOYEES SERVE SUPERIOR RECOGNITION AND COMPENSATION FOR THEIR SERVICE DOING THEIR JOBS. I ASK OF YOU TODAY, WE SHOULD NOT OVERLOOK CITY EMPLOYEES THAT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, PURCHASE THEIR JOB DUTIES IN SUPERIOR FASHION AND KEEP THEIR FAMILIES AND SENIORS SAFE FROM THIS DEADLY VIRUS, ALL I CAN SAY AND MANY OTHER SENIORS CAN SAY IS THANK FOR THEIR EXCELLENT CHARACTER AND EXCEPTIONAL VALUES THAT THEY EXHIBITED IN KEEPS US SENIOR CITIZENS SAFE AND ALIVE DURING THE DEADLY VIRUS TIME. I SUBMITTED THE SAME LETTER AND ASK FOR PAY BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MR. WOODHULL, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME DOWN AND DO THAT. WE NEED TO DO MORE TO RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND OUR CITY EMPLOYEES WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH A COPY OF YOUR COMMENTS, THAT WILL GO IN THEIR PERSONNEL FILE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY KNOW YOU TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA? >> MR. REAL, WE WERE DOING [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS RECOGNIZING STAFF THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND DEPARTMENTS -- [INAUDIBLE] SO IF WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHO WAS DOING THAT AND INITIATE THAT PROGRAM ONCE AGAIN, BUT, YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE PEOPLE WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HERE EVERY MONTH -- NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT OUR SIGN UP ON ZOOM IS NOT PRESENT AND THAT CONCLUDES THE GENERAL PUBLIC -- >> THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOUR COMMENTS AND OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM IS AN APPEAL, AC-23-10, INVOLVING DIANA DORN AND JOHNNY AND NOVA DORN. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE REST OF US BECAUSE MS. RONQUILLO IS GOING TO TELL US ALL ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS THIS IS AN APPEAL OF A ZONE CHANGE AT 1102 EDITH BOULEVARD FROM R1A TO R-ML, THERE IS A TRIPLEX ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT IS A NON-CONGRESS NONCONFORMING USE. THIS HAS EXISTED ON THE PROPERTY ABOUT 56 YEARS AND THE PROPERTY RECEIVED AN R-1A ZONING DESIGNATION WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY AND SO THIS BECAME A NONCONFORMING USE. THE OWNERS APPLIED FOR A ZONE CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY LOW DENSITY WHICH WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND THAT WAS APPEALED BY A NEIGHBOR TO THE PROPERTY. THAT WHERE IS TO DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE THE DECISION IS FOUND TO BE RATIONAL, REASONABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE FACTS AND THE LUHO DID NOT SUPPORT THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SHOW WHERE THE DECISION WAS IN ERROR, THE APPELLATE RNTS THS ARGUMENTED THIS CREATES SPOT ZONING AND THEY ARE NOT ON THEIR PHASE UNHANDFUL OR NONCOMPATIBLE AND OTHER USES ARE REFLECTIVE THAT THE OWNER INTENDS TO KEEP THE TRI PLEX AS IT, AND MOST OF THE OTHER MORE INTENSE USES ON THE SITE ARE NOT FEASIBLE BUT TODAY THEY ARE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND AN IDO WOULD ALSO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS. AND UNDER THE IDO ECONOMIC REASONS CANNOT BE THE PREDOMINANT REASON TO SUPPORT A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. AND THE OWNER WAS TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO DO WORK AND IMPROVE THE TRI PLEX BUT THIS WAS NOT THE PRIMARY REASON USED TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST, BUT TO CORRECT THE NONCONFORMANCE AND ALLOW FOR SEPARATE ADDRESSES WHICH IS HOW THE OWNERS DISCOVERED THE NONCONFORMANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND IT WAS CONCLUDED THAT THE EPC APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE WAS SUPPORTED AND THE APPELLANTS DID NOT MEET THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO UPHOLD AND THIS IS AN ACCEPT OF REJECT, SO COUNCIL'S OPTIONS ARE SO ACCEPT THE PROPOSE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS OR ACCEPT AND ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS AND/OR -- AND IF NOT WE'LL HAVE A FULL TELL ON THIS AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> COUNSELOR COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS A MOTION, BUT DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE THAT? >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ASK -- I WAS GOING TO GO BY YOUR LAST NAME -- SO THEY WERE NONCONFORMING TO THE LIST BUT THEY WERE UTILIZING IT FOR MULTIFAMILY, SO WAS THE COMMUNITY UPSET ABOUT THAT, OR WHERE THERE ISSUES RELATED TO THAT IN THE PAST AND NOW THAT THE NEW OWNERS PURCHASED IT, THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY -- BECAUSE IT WAS NONCONFORMING THEY WANT TO -- SINCE THERE WAS PRECEDENCE, THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT THREE UNITS? IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND -- >> SORRY. >> THE TRIPLEX EXISTED SINCE 1967 AT LEAST, AND FOLLOWING ADOPTION OF THE IDO THAT PARCEL RECEIVED A SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DESIGNATION AND BECAME NONCONFORMING AT THAT TIME, I THINK IT FLEW UNDER THE RAY DOOR FOR MOST FOLKS UP UNTIL RECENTLY WHEN THE NEW OWNER WAS DOING WORK ON THE PROPERTY AND DISCOVERED THAT DISCREPANCY IN THE ZONING VERSES THE USE. >> OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, SO I KNOW COUNCILOR BETTEN HAS A MOTION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS BUT IT WOULD BE TO REJECT -- >> THANK YOU, AND COUNCILOR BENTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO START A QUESTION AND WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THAT AT THE END. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT IT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE LUJO'S FINDING AND RECOMMENDATIONS. >> AND FOR PURPOSES OF DEBATE, THERE IS A SECOND AND COUNSELOR BENTON YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS A LONG-STANDING USE ON THIS LOCATION, AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE. THIS SEEMS T BE FROM WHAT I KNOW OF THE IDO A REASONABLE APPROACH TO SOLVING IT, WHICH WOULD BE TO DO THE ZONE CHANGE. NORMALLY THESE WOULD BE CONSIDER AD SPOT ZONE AND I KNOW THAT IS ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED, NOT DISALLOWED CART BLANCH BUT THEY ARE ALLOWS UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THIS SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THOSE. THAT IS MY RATIONALE. >> COUNSELOR BESSEN, AND THEN I WILL RECOGNIZE MYSELF. >> MS. RONQUILLO, DID YOU SAY THAT ALSO -- AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT QUITE RELEVANT BUT TO ME I DID FIND IT WAS AN INTERESTING NEGATIVE OF INFORMATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID TRY TO GO THROUGH THE ONE OTHER POTENTIAL ACCEPTABLE WAY AND MANNER TO RECTIFY SOMETHING THAT HAS EXISTED FOR 65 YEARS AND IN MY OPINION, LOVELY IDO ENDED UP CREATING A PROBLEM, BUT WAS THERE ANOTHER WAY -- >> THE HOMEONERS TRIED TO GET A ZONING CERTIFICATION WHICH RECOGNIZES THAT HISTORICALLY THIS HAS BEEN OPERATING IN A NONCONFORMING WAY BUT THE HOMEOWNERS WERE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT HISTORIC INFORMATION AND WERE INSTRUCTED BY THE CITY TO GO THROUGH A ZONE CHANGE. >> THIS PROPERTY EXISTED FOR DECADES, IT'S NOT A NEW TRIPLEX. IT'S JUST THAT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY IT IS, AND THEY JUST WANT TO DO WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AND NOT START BRAND NEW. >> THAT IS CORRECT, IT'S EXISTED THIS WAY FOR OVER 50 YEARS. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. RONQUILLO, I HAVE PTSD FROM MY HEARINGS BUT THERE WAS A POINT AFTER THE IDO WHERE WE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE AND HAD FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AN OPEN FORUM AND YOU COULD WALK IN AND WORK WITH SOMEONE ON THAT, BUT A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS AN OPTION AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NONCONFORMING UNTIL AS IN THIS CASE, THEY SELL THE PROPERTY AND THE OWNER NEEDS PARK FROM THE BANK AND THEY TRY TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND FIND OUT THAT THE UNDER LYING USE IS NONCONFORMING BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED HAD THE PRIOR OWNER TRIED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE GRANDFATHERS IN USES THIS COUNCIL APPROVED WHEN THE NEW IDO CAME INTO PLACE FOR THE NONCONFORMING. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT I CANNOT SPEAK TO PRACTICE SINCE I WAS INTO THE AT THAT TIME BUT IT WAS NOTED IN THE RECORD OF THE LUJO HEARING THAT THESE WERE GENERALLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. LUJO ALSO DID ASK PLANNING STAFF TO COME IN DURING THAT TIME WHAT THE ZONE CHANGE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO AND IF THE RML WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OUTCOME, AND HE PREFACED SAYING IT'S SPECULATIVE BUT THAT IS THE ZONE CHANGE THAT WOULD LIKELY HAVE HAPPENED. >> IN READING AND REVIEWING THE RECORD AND OUR STAFF POINTED THIS OUT I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT LUJO PROBABLY WENT INTO A LINE OF QUESTIONS THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE STRICT BOUNDS OF WHAT I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ASKING. LIKE WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO WITH IN THIS THE FUTURE, AS A WAY OF DETERMINING IF THIS WOULD BE APPROVED. I DON'T THINK LUJO WOULD DO THAT BUT IT INVITING COMMUNITY FOLKS TO SPECULATE THAT PERHAPS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE A FUTURE USE. AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT GRANDFATHERING SOMEONE IN OR NOT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OWNER IF WE SAY NO. I A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN THAT THAT TESTIMONY WAS ALLOWED BUT THIS IS A GRAFATHERED USE AROUND LONG BEFORE I WAS AROUND AND TO COUNCILOR PEÑA'S POINT, TH IS SIMPLY TRYING TO CLEAN THIS UP SO THE NEW OWNER CAN CLEAN UP AND CARE FOR THE OPERTY AND FEDERAL RESERVE FRAND FOLKS TO DO THAT, AND I WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE SUPPORTING THE COCILOR'S MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS BUT THE MAY BE SOME COMPETING VIEWS. THAT IS MY VIEW T OPEN IT UP, AN COUNCILOR PEÑA MAY HAVE ONE. >> WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BTON FIRS >> I READ THE RECORD AND I SAW SO OF THE QUEIONS LIK IS THIS GOING TO BE SOMETNG BENEFICIAL THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AS WE TALK ABOUT IT BEING ANDFATHERED IN, TRE WAS NEVER GRANDFATHERED AND THEY WERE NONCONFORMING THE ENTIRE TIME AND SO WANT TO BE CLE, ITAS NOT GNDFATHERED AND THE COMMUNITY OVERWHELMINGLY STED THEY D NOTANT T DUPLEX WITH THE CASITA. THIS A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH SILE-FAMILY HOMES AND I KNOW IN MY NEIGHOOD THERE ARE HOUSES LIKE THAT THAT HAV COERNS ABOUT BECAUSE THE HAVE JUST BEEN CONVERTED AND THEY WERE NOTRANDFATHERED, THE JUST CONVERT THEM AND THE WERE NEVE CONFORMING. KE IN OTR NEIBORHOODS WHERE YOU HAVE THUSES THAT OPLE ARE DOINGVE TIME, IT DOESN'T NSARILY MEAN THAT THE COMMUNITY IS EMBCING THAT USEF THAT PROPEY. SO -- AND FOR SOM OF THE REONS YOU STATED ABOUTOME OF TH QUESTIONS AED THERE, I INK IT'S GD TO KNOW AND IT'S JUST GO CAN BACK TO LUJO AND HAVIHETAKE A DPER DIVE D LOOK AT THIS BETTER. >> SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIO OR SCUSSIONS, WE WILL G BK TO THE ORIGINA MOTN AND IF THAT FAILWE'L PEN ITP FO OTHER RECOMMN >>HANKOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'THINK IHAVE ATHING MORE TOD THRECO SHOWS THI IS A LONG-STANDINGONCONFORMING U, ANIN THA TYPE OF SITTION WE DON'T KNOWHE EIRE HISRY OF THIS P PPERTYOW TO CAME INCLUD MULTDWELLING UNITS ON THE SAM PPERTY, BUT ITOULD SEEM IN FAIRNESS T PRORTY OWR TO BEBLE T CONTINUE LONGIME. BEEN THE FOR A LONG, SO SUDDENLYAY WEL T COMMUNITY DSN'T LIKE YR USE OF THAT PROPERTY --HEY MAY OR MANOT BUT IS BEEN IISSENS EXNCE FOR A LONG TIME A THIS IS AAY TO G ION THE RECORDS -- PRORLON THE RECORDS -- AND JUST SEEDIKE EASOBLEPPROH ANDT WAS WHAT WAS ROMMENDED TOHEM B THE PLANNING DEPARENT. I DOHAVE ANY OTHER ARGUMT. THANK YOUIR. SEEING NO OER DISCUION, T CLERK LL CALL THE VOTON THE RECOMMENTION >>OUNC BES YES. >> COUELOR BENTON. >> YES. COUILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNSEL GROUT? >>O. >> CNSOR LEW >> Y. >> COUNCILEÑA. >> NO. >> COUNSEL SANCHEZ >>ES >>OUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. THAT PASSES ON 6-2 VE. >>OUNCILORS NEX UP WE HAVE ITEM3 FOR APPROVING,THERERE NONE A OUR LITEM IS FINAL ACTIONS R3-148. >>HANK YOU, THIS IS DECRI THE CITY'S IENT T IMPVE NSET AND ISLETA. Y KW WE HAVE THE LONGEST URBA STRETCHOF THIS HISTORIC ROAD AND THE ONLY PLACE IN T NATS ITSE, WHI IS ALSO A PART OF THE CINEAL, AND LOT OFT IS CITYN CNCIL AND I T THE COUY MAYLREADY HAVE PASSED TS. T WE HAVE THE SAMEESOLUTION MOVING FORRD ANDHIS IS JUST TO SAY -- [INAUDIE] TO HELP VITALIZE F THEENTENNIAL LEBRATION COMING U IN THE YEAR 203 >> AND O SPEER THIS EVENING DECLINED TO COMMENT AND IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROHE ADMINISTRATION? CHUMSP,ND GOING O,WICE WILL THELERKL THE VOT >> COUNC BESSEN. >> YES >> COUNCILOR BETTEN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. YES. COUELOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCIL -- >> YES. >> CNCILOREÑA. >> Y. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DRS, THAT COUNCIL S > Y. THA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> WELL THAT END OUR MEETING TOGHT. SEE YOU BACK I TWO WEEKS