she's coming but she's going to be a few minutes late so we can go ahead and start we can't we're ready when you are all right good morning everyone thank you for joining us we have a future mayor in the house what do you think this is Mayor Griffin how many of you remember actually mayor Griffin there was another mayor Griffin who knows when see Kerry Koski knows Jeff do you know what what what was the year all right well you're the new generation of Mayor Griffin what do you think about that and your mom and dad are right here correct can you wave to them all right and you tell us how old you are she's six and you go to Brookfield School correct all right so guess what you get to start off with the gavel mayor Griffin okay so you're gonna start off the meeting by giving us a gavel to officially start us off what do you think you want to hit it hard wow good start look at you girl all right Madame Clerk I'm going to start off with the Pledge of Allegiance and mayor Griffin will you please lead us in the pledge ready to start here okay I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to The Republic to stand on the nation under God this is for all nice job good job all right Madam clerk I'm going to send it to you for roll call we have two proclamations and then we will go into public comment great thank you all right roll call for Wednesday April 12 2023 councilmember breckis yeah four hello yeah Martinez here Ebert here Taylor here Reese here mayor of the day Griffin here mayor shivi here Madame Ayers you do have a quorum of the Reno city council all right thank you so much all right we're going to go ahead and open public comment I believe we're going to start off with two proclamations correct that's right okay hello thank you for being here with us thank you Cody Shadle and dispatch manager for Reno Public Safety dispatch these are several of our dispatchers here this week and we're excited to received Proclamation from City Council in commemoration of National Public Safety telecommunicators Week that's fantastic great it's a national week that honors dispatchers Across the Nation for the hard work and service and sacrifice that they do and we're just really excited to be here so thank you guys Cody maybe just give us a little bit background about your job absolutely um so our dispatchers are taxed with answering 911 non-emergency administrative calls for the City of Reno unincorporated areas of Washoe County and we work collaterally with our partner Sparks and other Public Safety Partners to handle that volume of calls we also dispatch services for Reno Police Department Reno Fire Department University Police Services Reno Marshals and airport fire so we are a regional Dispatch Center and basically when people are having their worst day this we answer those calls and these dispatchers right here actually dispatch those resources so they are tasked every single day of working holidays weekends birthdays they miss time with their family work tremendous amounts of overtime to serve the city so how about you we have not um we've definitely processed those calls initially and listened to those things happen and sent the firefighters who've gotten to experience those things but our they've definitely seen a lot I have a lot of experience actually right here I think everybody's average age is somewhere between five to ten years in the dispatch career so I'm a good group well you guys are all dub and I know the men and women of the real police department are in fully grateful um just give us a little background what's up with the ugly Christmas sweater today it's your favorite holiday I love it Christmas is your favorite holiday I love it all right Cody take it away the floors absolutely so we actually have Heather Alvey one of our dispatchers she's going to read the proclamation for us whereas City of Reno Public Safety dispatch is engaged in the operation of Emergency Response systems for Reno Public Reno Police Department Reno Fire Department University Police Services Reno Tahoe international airport fire department and Reno Marshall's office and whereas these individuals answer calls for help on 9-1-1 and Non-Emergency lines for police fire and emergency medical situations and serve as a critical link for the prompt response of officers and firefighters in the field to save the lives and property of our citizens and whereas such calls also include those governmental Communications related to all public safety and operations which the modern governmental agency must conduct which resulted in contact by the public amounting to an estimated 480 000 total calls handled for the year of 2022 and whereas City of Reno Public Safety dispatch is the single vital link for our police officers and firefighters for monitoring their activities providing them information and ensuring their safety and whereas City of Reno Public Safety dispatch employees are dedicated and hardworking often under difficult circumstances and with an extraordinary workload and whereas City of Reno Public Safety dispatch serves the public daily and in countless State ways without due recognition by the beneficiaries of their services now therefore I Heather Alvey dispatcher do hereby declare National Public Safety telecommunicators week April 9th through 15 2023. Heather you did that like a damn Pro it's like I've never seen it done that well thank you that is fantastic try not to talk as fast as I usually do that really means that you are cut out for your job thank you thank you so much please give them a round of applause on the standing ovation [Music] [Applause] any parting words Cody and just one last word uh we have had the ability to have the media up with us this week to do some sit alongs for city council members who haven't had the the opportunity to experience dispatch I also would recommend by all means we should be happy to entertain you first get along to come and see the live 911 calls and see how your citizens interact with Public Safety I think it's a really awesome opportunity yeah you guys are heroes just so you know I sat in on a few of those calls and I don't know how you do it I mean my level of anxiety just like went through the roof you guys are tremendous and amazing and you have to have sort of that calm demeanor I was so impressed I've never seen anything like it I don't think people realize the magnitude of how stressful your job is so ask him for a yeah all right you guys thank you so much for being here thank you appreciate all of what you do you want to be a dispatcher all right okay Monica the floor is yours we have another Proclamation should we do good morning Monica Cochran for the record and this week is National Community Development week which was established to promote the Community Development block grant and educate the community and Congressional leaders about the funding uh this week we also on yesterday the day before Monday myself Jayna litz and Angela Foose went to Booth Elementary School and gave a presentation on Community Development on block grant and planning type activities to the fifth grade class so that was pretty exciting getting some swag and I have Jane and litz and she is going to read the proclamation okay whereas the Community Development block grant cdbg program has existed since 1975 to provide local governments with the resources to develop viable urban communities by providing decent affordable housing and a suitable living environment and expanding economic opportunities principally for persons of low and moderate income and whereas the cdbg program has strengthened America's communities such as the City of Reno by addressing pressing neighborhood and Human Services needs and having significant impact on our local economies through job creation and retention physical Redevelopment and improved local tax base and whereas the City of Reno has effectively administered and customized its cdbg program for over 40 years to implement various programs and projects in the areas of affordable housing Economic Development public facilities and Public Works improvements homelessness and planning that has contributed to the Improvement of the physical economic and social conditions in our city now therefore I jaina litz on behalf of Hilary shivi mayor of the City of Reno Nevada due hereby declare April 10th through 14th 2023 as Community Development week congratulations you did that like a pro too no pressure after the first one but you caught it you caught I see that you were listening and you caught it great job fantastic all right thank you so much Monica thank you for all that you do for cdbg thank you appreciate it okay Madam clerk I believe we're gonna go into public comment and we will start with Pastor Manera and then Jerry Mustafa right great let me go ahead and just read my disclosure and then we will write in public comments it should be noted for those in the audience that comments are to be addressed to the mayor and Council as a whole comments heard under this item will be limited to three minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the council's agenda please note that Council may not take action upon any matter not agendized on today's agenda when you're called on for public comment please state your name for the record and begin speaking the timer will begin when you say your name and you will be afforded three minutes if you're an attendee in the zoom meeting and would like to make public comment please raise your hand at this time and lastly while in this room please be respectful warnings will be issued by the presiding officer if there is disruptive behavior and you will be asked to leave Chambers if the behavior continues Madame mayor as you mentioned Cesar Monera is first Jerry misfud followed by Rhonda Tyson the empress how is everybody doing I have to imagine well usually I come here to do prayer but I like the fact that I can see everyone is doing well and if I can just read one small passage of scripture out of uh first time Timothy chapter 2 verse 2 that explains one of the reasons why I come and do prayer and it says pray for kings and all those in authority that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and Holiness I think that more than ever prayer is needed and um if you may join me in prayer I would like to do so Heavenly Father in the precious name of Jesus Lord we pray for our city council for our major for all the members and for everyone that is in Authority in our state from the top to the bottom we pray for our new Chief of Police for all the departments in Reno Sparks Sheriff Lord anybody that is in Authority we pray for their well-being we pray for their families as well we pray for our community in general that you may it may bless us keep us safe and Lord we declare that Reno Sparks and this whole region is yours and your eyes are upon this region we pray it all in the precious name of Jesus amen it's good to see all of you have a blessed day thank you very much Pastor all right Jerry okay I want to say goodbye to everyone Jerry Smith said followed by Rhonda Tyson followed by Damien Cole hey mayor Griffin I got a lot of emails for you to start with it's fine thanks Mom and Dad thank you all right Jerry it's all you oh I hope it really feels like that but anyway man can I get the photo I think nice picture wow we all look so young but anyway remember that picture man long time ago I'm surprised you signed it I actually I'm straightening you out um okay we ready to go here my name is Jerry Memphis I'm starting a new Organization for seniors called seen years because seniors have seniors um I really shouldn't be here today I'm giving away uh to the seniors that I live with um blankets water and other products that my fellow seniors need you see I have to restore myself when I asked Miguel I met with him an hour ago help restore me back to the position that uh Devon and Mr thorney when you threw me out of City Hall a year ago because I was wearing this shirt and it was this open I was told I was inappropriately dressed I'd like your attention how can you not throwing me out now because you said mayor to me privately that never would have happened if you were here on that day but when I tried to get you to see and negotiate a settlement we couldn't go anywhere with it your last words to me were will present it before the city council like a state plead my own case but Carl stepped in and he said I'm not giving you any money you know we saw Carl in this classic meltdown and that's fine I don't need anybody to restore me here because I see how you've treated me you not only you not only throw me out of City Hall you send a security card to Cassie in the city clerk's office and tell Cassie to call me up and tell me I'm barged from City Hall I've been a community servant for 60 years 30 of those years here in Reno and then throw me out and treat me like that was wrong but you wouldn't settle with me you wouldn't even see my medical records that I wanted to present you that day and since then I've written to you mayor mayor I've written to you a letter four pages how come you haven't answered me I haven't seen it you know it's you know I I believe that you have buffers that read you things that I may write that somebody May write a four-page letter I believe that Carl got a hold of it because he protects you Carl runs his City and I remember you told me one time that you have no control over Carl Hall he doesn't even have any control over Carl Hall I I think you're over the hill that rigor mortis is set in already on you Carl and what you did to me I called up Carl and I told him what an emotional childhood I had he said nothing I called him back and I go why didn't you say anything to me why would you call me your friend and know that I was an abused child he couldn't say anything then either you have no soul Carl anyway isn't it just great is you didn't want this mayor you didn't want to see me up here you offered me something like a bribe not to appear up here anyway isn't that great I'm glad you're you're here Jerry thank you thank you Jerry okay Rhonda Tyson followed by Damien Cole followed by Terry Brooks anyway have a great steak Carl good morning I'm Rhonda Tyson I know everyone is eager to get my latest report on 1200 Riverside Drive reason I say that you're eager to get my report is that a couple of weeks ago I sent a written invitation to the city manager to come and tour the devastation at 1200 Riverside Drive so that I didn't have to keep coming to these meetings to tell you what's going on I didn't even get an acknowledgment less much less a response so I'm here to tell you what's going on we have now exceeded four million dollars in costs on damages that the official Reno Fire Department report says was 250 thousand dollars that three and three quarters of a million dollars in counting is all due to water damage the city has yet to address whether or not that was necessary whether it's failure to abide by the Reno fire code or take prophylactic measures to protect things had some contributing cause so we're left without answers I'm also told by Insurance professionals that because our loss is at least four thousand times our premium costs that we are probably uninsurable which means the City of Reno could be responsible for the demise of a Community Association that celebrated its 50th anniversary just last year in a bit of good news on Monday we finally got our fire alarm system in working order what I haven't stressed before is that the three-quarters of our residents that were not displaced did not have a working fire alarm system so we've been in violation of city code undoubtedly for the last six and a half months but that was all due to the actions of the Reno Fire Department which once again I have to stress is an administrative failure and not a failure of the men and women who respond you handicapped them when you sent them to our fire because you were not in compliance with the fire code and they had no idea about where to go and what to do in that in my opinion caused excess damage uh we also haven't yet been issued a single building permit I will say that my contractor says the building department has been really good to work with and I'm happy to hear that because the city ignored my request to help us expedite those permits so I'm pleased that the building department is being cooperative in part we can't move forward anyway because we still don't have a working elevator and you cannot get heavy equipment up 11 stories up a stairwell or drywall to help these apartments rebuilt and that's the single greatest damage that I wish the fire department had avoided if you had protected our elevators I might be looking at being home in three months instead of six eight ten months or a year I thank you for your attention all right thank you so much please send your letter to me and I will follow up with you and I'm glad you're safe I lost my father in a buyer Damien Cole followed by Terry books foreign nice to see you in person okay good morning Madam mayor city council Damien Cole Ward one I'd like to show you why we don't need cycle Lanes on Virginia Street yeah this is Reno this is Amsterdam same sidewalk with we actually have wider sidewalks in some cases with when I mean they have lots more people that thing is messing up well that's in front of the uh old hair is Noel okay I'm sorry this thing is Damian actually if you step talk step stop touching it it will automatically focus on it here is where I have to enter the car Road when I get to the light but there they have intersections that help things out we have the beginning of something like that here but over there they actually have real curves instead of fake ones 24 foot wide sidewalk on each side of the road that's the equivalent of Two River walks here's the bridge 20 foot wide at its widest point and here's their Bridge 15 feet at Max historic area hundreds of years old they were not expecting me to come up behind them oh I'm sorry and I apologized I said I'm sorry I'm in your place but because they have theirs red painted on the sides everyone's kind of expecting that they know where they need to be [Music] Can you spot the bike path here oh shoot well if you just move the sign around put the bike rack over next to the where the cars are where there's no parking in it well actually there is parking there yeah right here everything's in a tidy row so they're basically just making better use of their space they don't have to tear up any trees so right here I'm in the car this is how Americans engineer things but I don't need to use Virginia Street because right behind those buildings there's a hidden bike path that's been sitting there ever since the 1920s when they delineated the the lines except we have to fix up the intersections a raised crosswalk or a continuous sidewalk that goes across that lets cars know that they uh I have to slow down so yes uh please come with me I shall show you the city in a way that you've never seen it before thank you very much all right thank you great job I love all your analysis it's really good by the way everything I did just want to mention everything that I did in that video downtown was illegal 1997 there was a ordinance that was passed to prevent bicycles from being downtown in What's called the central business district I had to track down what that actually meant and by the wordage of this whole thing I've mapped it out on a map it basically covers everything from Vine to Valley from California up to the freeway so everything that you see people doing on bicycles every day downtown they should be getting cited for that but no one cares no one cares you know thanks Damian will you send that to me please sure thank you Terry Brooks followed by Janet gilotti followed by Denny Dotson good morning it's me Terry Brooks again and today I came here to face the act of discrimination when it comes to employment and race the first few jobs I ever had would not hire people of any minority so for years I worked with only people of the majority some employers hire some minorities to get by with paying them lower wages that helps them recover from a strike by the majority who demanded higher wages if you are of a minority you might be the last to get hired but after a while you just might be the first to get fired if you're of a minority and have a job where you are discriminated against there after all do you think that you would still want to work there and after being discriminated against while trying to receive a good education it might it makes it even harder to try to get a good occupation later in life I got to work in the university in the library of the University so finally I got to work in a place that was full of a lot of diversity different people often prove that they have different abilities so when they get together to share their skills together they improve their stabilities when they show each other how to do the things they do then everyone else who is there learns how to do them too it's like a lot of people with different instruments in an orchestra and a lot of people with different instruments performing in a band if I heard a group all playing the same instruments it might be a bit of a surprise it would be better with a variety of instruments playing together to harmonize it's like a lot of different people making up a great variety and all of them working together to build a much better Society the more we accept each other the more we learn from each other and the more we work together the more we benefit from each other I would like to thank you all for listening to me today and I look forward to coming back when I've worked on what to say a great job oh this is chapter four and just so you know I've only got 42 more chapters to go the first book oh yeah how long do you think it'll be before well they have to transcribe it because you wrote everything out yeah a lot of people have asked me when it was going to be available so Jennica they're on top of it thank you so much Terry thank you Janet gailotti followed by Denny Dotson followed by Jason mayeroff good morning I'm Janet lately I'm the executive director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness for those of you good morning good morning for those of you not familiar with nami it's the National Alliance on Mental Illness we're the largest Grassroots Mental Health Organization in the nation we have over 600 Affiliates throughout the nation in Nevada we have four I am one of four Affiliates and last week we had our very first annual fundraiser and I'm so very excited that we were able to do that as a non-profit what we do is we we educate Advocate and support individuals living with a mental health condition and their family members what that translates to is we provide support groups for each the family member and also separately for the individual living with a mental health condition it gives them the feeling of community and not being alone family members they possess a different set of feelings when it when they have a loved one that lives with a mental health condition and so we also provide support groups for the family members that are separate so they're able to express their feelings and their frustrations and and learn new tools how to help not hinder their loved one so with that we also have education courses that we provide our family to family education course gives information on how the brain works medications diagnoses again how to help not hinder your loved one and just additional tools that you can use along that Journey after covid we all experienced some form of a mental health condition whether it be anxiety of what's coming next depression of being trapped in the house with our loved ones that we're not used to that you know you learn you learn a whole lot about your loved ones when you're you really can't go anywhere and you're with them 24 7. so you know and we're slowly coming out of that but that brought the conversation to town and that we're really thankful to do is have that come conversation you need to be able to tell your story and we need to change Minds we need to stop the stigma and we have to stop it from the top so I thank you for your time today and thank you for having us and mayor chivi you have been a huge supporter of Nami since I've been involved for the last five years so thank you very much for your involvement you're very kind but thank you so much for being here it's really really important because this is how we get the message out into the community and it really is hard as a family member because I think we feel so like we're the only one going through it and so I can't begin to tell you thank you for all your hard work and for going out there and championing this and continuing to educate we got to keep educating and keep letting people know that it's okay to talk about and otherwise we live in darkness and massive Shadows so um thank you for all your work I'm so sorry I missed it I was under the weather back now um but you know it was the one thing all year on my calendar I'm like oh I can't wait to go because it's your first and and I had to miss it but hopefully mayor Lawson did a great job and um really appreciate all your hard work so anyone listening that is struggling with a mental health condition or family members because oftentimes you don't know where to go I was the mayor and I didn't know where to go um so you know it's just it you guys provide an invaluable resource so please keep coming because I think it's important that you need to continue to educate thank you thank you so much thank you Denny Dotson followed by Jason mayeroff followed by Alan Jordan um good morning mayor shivi council members Mr Thornley my name is Danny dots and I'm actually the executive director for Hot August Nights ah yeah I'm here actually representing the other Legacy events uh Randy Burke or Street Vibrations is here in attendance as well as uh Arena Rodeo the balloon races and the air races uh we do meet every month and talk about what we can do and how we can work together I'm here to really talk about item b41 that's in within consent I realize you have been speaking about that and talking about ways to continue funding special events we thank you for that as you know um special events taking pretty hard hit the last three years um special events were not eligible for any type of funding federally and so when we don't have local support which we haven't had in the last couple years with Reno City of Reno it's made it very difficult so excuse me so with that we're very excited that it's on the up for discussion we look forward to working with you and staff members here on coming up by the way we can strengthen our partnership and strengthen downtown Reno mayor that's all that I have thank you so much I believe to have this on the agenda 24th um oh I thought we were having another discussion about about special events so yeah because I well I don't want it on the consent I want a robust conversation I think you make some fantastic points you know what I know what you're talking about a different issue okay that would be really important love to see you please reach out to my office Mayor reno.gov we will love you yeah we love to be a part of the process we need a massive overhaul yes thank you so much welcome thank you guys appreciate it thank you okay bye -bye Jason mayeroff followed by Alan Jordan followed by Mario Delarosa hi my name is Jason maroff and I'm one of the thousands and thousands of people here in Truckee Meadows who loves to run and bicycle you know Reno's a wonderful place to grow up and bicycle and run do the weather and the high altitude and the climate um I spoke about the subject last year I'm advocating for bike Lanes on North Virginia Street in Ward four from about the university to about the train tracks in Raleigh Heights um the problem as as we see it I'm sorry North Virginia Street in Raleigh Heights as you can see there's there's enough physical space to establish a bike lane but one of the problems is that there's very little space every time I bicycle from where I live in Golden Valley just outside of Ward four I feel like I'm taking my life to my hands you know I try to save my bicycle rides from North Valleys into Reno for the weekends the holidays because of the fact that you know there's people texting on their phones while they're driving that maybe they're distracted so I'm taking my life into my hands the other issue is it the other issue is that Virginia Street represents probably the only reasonable way to bicycle or run from the North Valleys area to Reno proper and um so it'd be you know it's wonderful that you guys have established bike Lanes especially in the downtown area however you know I mainly see people bicycling um outside that General yeah downtown area especially on North Virginia and uh North Virginia I often see pedestrians who look like their only mode of transportation is around two feet so if we could um find the funding or wherewithal to establish bike Lanes in areas like this would be extremely helpful to all of us yeah you're not kidding I I was just curious I wanted to find out whose road that is that's ours okay so it's not County or ndot okay this is your expert right here she's on it okay I appreciate that thank you thank you so much Alan Jordan followed by Mario dela Rosa followed by Jeff Church good morning mayor council members and especially Jenny my work friends my name is Alan Jordan and I'm addressing you as an individual who lives in Reno not as a member of a group first I'd like to thank you for everything that Reno does to stabilize our climate I'm aware of the efforts like the recent lead gold certification and the continuous edition of EVS to your vehicle free Fleet and the infrastructure created that promotes micro Mobility and I understand the realities of governmental budget constraints because I retired as a management analyst from the state of Nevada I feel that you want to make appropriate balanced decisions that will Empower Reno to continue to thrive even in the face of external threats such as wildfires in California and the wind that blows into our city and county resulting in substantial air pollution I understand that the basis for making these decisions is accurate and timely information and I have two suggestions that are likely to save money one is s citizens climate Lobby known as CCL a non-profit nonpartisan Grassroots advocacy climate change organization with over 530 local chapters including Arena Sparks chapter for assistance when you need research it's a useful resource when your needs go beyond the abilities of resources like the University of Nevada Reno to provide to provide I looked up and saw three minutes and I got this this commemorate okay so it that's demonstrated when you're deployment anyway the email address for Reno Sparks chapters listed on the website is Reno at citizensclimate lobby.org and also to help build awareness because this is a big deal of the cco's communities training page so that more Arena citizens realize that they can learn factual information it's really an unbelievably effective page and the URL is https community.citizensclimate.org topics in closing I love Reno and I'm willing to help research information this is not volunteering an organization this is me okay to help research upon request I invite you to reach out to me and also I love the trees in Reno and thought you might be interested in reading a blog post about the health benefits of those trees that's a long URL so I'll just put that down there if that can focus and people can look at it and also I'll submit it so it'll be here for the record thank you that would be great and Madam clerk if you could submit that to my email that would be great thank you Mario Delarosa followed by Jeff Church followed by David titsel good morning City concert my name is Mario De la Rosa I am executive director with latino arts and culture I am here to thank councilman Miguel Martinez for his donation to Latino artean culture we are the only we are one of only a few Latino 51c3 organizations in Northern Nevada and the only one that works in the arts and culture we have been doing this since 2003 when we started the first Latino theater group and eventually we found founded our organization according to the Arts and economic Prosperity survey done by the Reno Arts and Cultural commission we are an organization that makes the community more desirable by creating Pride and where we live and work we unify neighborhoods and people from different backgrounds we Infuse lives and joy with joy and pride and sense of belonging with our bilingual theater we attract bilingual audiences with our festivals the Mariachi and folklore of the Nations Festival s and Day of the Dead Festival we attract townsends or attendees whisper Business Development we support local jobs last year we started organizing a Spanish English poetry encounter and Spanish book fair the first one in Northern Nevada we also offer workshops in the Arts during the year we are a Cornerstone of the Latino arts and culture thank you councilman Miguel Martinez thank you the whole city council for all on Reno Police Department and the city staff for all your support to our projects and programming thank you thank you and Madame mayor just to State for the record the timer we're having some technical issues over here on the it clerk side so please disregard the timers on the screen they're not working we're having some video issues and also we're having some voicemail issues so okay I just want to how about the back clock those are working just the screen timers are not working pay attention to the ones in the front and the back thank you Jeff Church followed by David titsel followed by Casey Crispin good morning I hope this screen's working by the way I nailed it mayor Griffith started in 1995. oh so good I nailed it and I too bad the dispatch folks left as a retired Reno Police Sergeant I cannot thank them enough I could tell you so many wonderful stories so moving on my name is Jeff church I'm here to discuss the bid DRP the business improvement district downtown uh DRP anyway first of all I reached out to one of you regarding the bid in the DRP and you wrote me right back I want to thank you very very much it was very responsive you indicated your complete support for that organization I understand it I support them too I support the idea of a non-profit to deal with the downtown issues however we are a city of laws any non-profit or any organization must comply with NRS 271 NRS 354 as well as IRS laws and policies that brings me to this now first of all I recently read and this is what I'm seeking some help maybe you can refer me that the bid had not done their annual audits as required I also can't find updated IRS form 990 so maybe somebody can reach out to me from Finance or whatever but I would like to I'd like to be accurate when I go when I speak and I complain about things so if I'm wrong just let me know the other issue as you can see there is an Nevada Department of Taxation determined that the bid the DRP is a government agency you can read it right there it's in Black well it's actually in yellow and black and yellow but it's right there that the DRP um bit is a government agency subject to that so I'm asking if they're filing their proper forms under NRS 271 if they're filing their audits with them Etc et cetera so again it's not that it's not that it's a bad thing it's a good thing but we do have to comply with the law and we do have to make sure we do this right as I understand it again maybe folks can explain this is the year that they're up by July of 2023 when there's got to be some kind of a renewal analysis of that program so those are things maybe you can refer me and help me understand but I appreciate your time and the Reno Aces told me if I wore this this Sunday I could get dollar hot dogs all I can eat so wow I will be there now come to find out everybody gets those but I give them a little plug thank you very much all right thanks see you again good to see you too and one more comment you're so much more friendlier than those School Board people they got a tough job David titsel followed by Casey Crispin followed by Bill shrimp good morning mayor shivi and the rest of the city council my name is Dave fitzel and I'm a volunteer with citizens climate Lobby the Reno Sparks chapter I'm speaking to you today to encourage the City of Reno to participate in important Federal grant opportunity time is short by April 28th each City must submit its notice of intent to participate the program is epa's climate pollution reduction grants which support the development and deployment of Technologies and solutions that will reduce greenhouse gases harmful air pollution as well as transition America to a clean energy economy that benefits all Americans these initial grants are modest one million for each of the Nations 67 largest metropolitan statistical areas but they're non-competitive which means they're guaranteed and are important because they will prepare each state to compete or be competitive for subsequent competitive grants such as these 27 billion dollar greenhouse gas reduction fund a three billion dollar environmental and climate Justice block grants 5 billion in climate pollution reduction grants 3.2 billion in neighborhood access and Equity Grant programs and a billion and clean heavy duty for being heavy duty Vehicles class six and seven among others these planning grants support each MSA developing an application and plan to reduce climate pollution since most msas include numerous cities and even counties the specific approach will vary between msas it will likely leverage existing councils of governments or similar similar Regional Frameworks EPA has held several Preparatory women webinars and there's a link in I submitted the written comments so there's a link in that for you to research and on March 1st 2023 they issued climate prediction reduction Grant guidance I applaud the City of Reno for its past work in addressing climate change however we cannot let up in our response to the devastating impacts that will be befall our community our country and the world if we fail to take steps to libert greenhouse gas emissions I encourage the city to work with others in our MSA to submit a notice of intent to participate before April 30th which is at the end of this month um for the non-competitive planning grants followed by applications and work plans approximately one month later notices of filing opportunities are expected later in 2023 with applications for the 4.6 billion in competitive grants due in the first quarter of 2021. the Reno CCL chapter stands ready to support the City of Reno and other eligible entities within the state to help contribute to the Grant application and our national volunteer electrification action team has offered to provide additional calls if those would be helpful thank you for your time thank you so much sustainability management others in our group have okay she's doing we connect you two because she has that Grant and you guys are on the same page and doing really good work all right great thank you so much all right Casey Crispin followed by Bill shrimp followed by Nicole Anna Gap assist good morning council members and mayor my name is Casey Crispin I am the executive director of Local Food Network and co-owner of Prima Farm a local year-round organic vegetable farm and I'm also here to extend my gratitude to council member duer for suggesting uh 1500 discretionary funds to our non-profit I also wanted to take this minute to educate a little bit about the mission and the unique offering that Riverside farmers market in particular as our most prominent function of our non-profit local food network is offering to the community historically farmers markets in Northern Nevada the ones that we have currently are going on the 30th year in Reno this year I have offered a plethora of produce from the California Central Valley which is of course our biggest supplier for food in general in our area but a really wonderful tide has been sweeping our area in the last decade and it is a tide of sustainable ecologically sound and regenerative farming methodologies our farm my partner and I have demonstrated that you can not only have a successful year-round operation up here in the high desert but you can also withstand the increasingly challenging climate that our particular microclimate presents right being in the high altitudes with very unpredictable weather patterns and you can be financially ReSound and this is something that is encouraging a lot of young Farmers to pursue which provides a whole new horizon of Hope for our area when we talk about food security and food sovereignty which I think is more prominently in our minds now given the pandemic if you recall in the middle of March 2020 not only did we have the pandemic creating a lot of uh Panic buying but we also had two sets of storms that coalesced closing the I-80 and so we actually had a much more extended empty shelf syndrome than much of the nation did and our farm which we are the only year-round Diversified vegetable farm in our area that sells direct to consumers in the way that we do so our CSA at that point was full within three weeks of the pandemic beginning and all of those shelves being empty we had 100 person wait list so the awareness of the delicacy of our lengthy distribution-based food system uh is is actually pretty close to the center of people's minds especially in these moments when we have these storms interrupt our supply chain so the reason why the Riverside Farmers Market stands out in the the lay of the land of farmers markets is because we are actually offering a solution that has more long-term implications we're the only farmers market that limits producers to truly local ones we're also the only one that limits producers to ecologically sound practices so when you come to our Market which I invite that you do especially in the first two weeks of May when we switch to Sunday mornings at Idlewild Park you're going to find a lot of local farmers where you actually get to develop a relationship with people who are perhaps your neighbors perhaps in Fallon or Beyond but High Desert farmers and ranchers that are actually supplying not only food for our our region but also hope for security as we continue to develop our agricultural resources that's fantastic Casey I did not know that just reiterate for everyone how they um you guys are moving yeah so we are moving we're moving to uh Idlewild Park and we're we're moving to Sunday mornings we tried really hard to become Riverside Farmers Market on Riverside Drive but speaking to the item that was brought up by the gentleman from uh Hot August Nights I believe the prohibitive cost for street closures and the lack of sponsorship coming for the last three years made it that we had to change our game plan so Idlewild Park is our next phase and it just feels more secure so after speaking with several people within the city it just seemed like it would be the most efficient route for us to you know we can't spend all of our money on fees we want to spend our money on promoting farms and local businesses you're exactly right so please I need you to come to that meeting on the 24th sure really really important you need a massive overhaul great especially when we're trying to activate downtown we need to help so you guys survive and thrive great so thank you so much for being here I'm hearing this constantly so yeah we need to check in and modify everything to make it successful for you guys and especially because people are so food insecure sure yeah absolutely well thank you for listening all right 24th metamere um I just wanted to ask um Casey if you have time to stay uh through the consent agenda I'm gonna pull this item off and if you're still here I wanted to ask you a couple questions too yeah absolutely I will be back well it'll be in I don't know 40 minutes or okay 25 minutes or something right yeah I appreciate that thank you okay Bill shrimp followed by Nicole Anna gaposis followed by Lauren Taylor well uh good morning everybody first thing before I get too far into things I think the co-mayor thing was happening this morning beautiful I really that's really good energy I really appreciate that I also want to let all of you know that I appreciate the work and the time and the energy that you put into your jobs I know it's difficult I know you have a lot of different people pull in different directions so thank you for being here I appreciate that I want to make sure that you know that the airport Authority killed the air races this is the last year of them uh I wonder how a quasi-governmental agency can have that authority to impact the region economically in such a big way I hope there's something that can be done through this body to help with that um I want to talk about agenda item D6 today the Nevada legislature allows people to vote for support or opposition to a bill as of 6 a.m today 94 percent of people have voted against sb12 which is today's agenda item D6 direct staff to pay attention to 94 percent of people do not change existing law regarding city council roles allow existing law to take effect in a few months eliminate the Redundant at large role I am supportive of green infrastructure and general neutral language cleanup it's also part of that bill regarding our City's budget item D3 we've all heard we all know the Wizard of Oz we all know the metaphor about how to boil a frog the budget is flat about 860 million dollars this body's job is to review and set budgetary priorities refrain from being complacent or devoting less care to the budget because top-line revenue is flat City staff did an excellent job preventing to this body a few weeks ago they talked about some great things happening and highlighted some crucial challenges unfortunately staff was not permitted to tell the whole story this body has no idea if HR could mitigate the growing workers comp issues with additional resources this body has no idea that a fire destroyed a high-rise because the fire department lacked resources this body does not know that a 20-plus year veteran of the Reno Police cannot take summer trips with his family because RPD lacks resources this body cannot provide strategic direction to staff regarding the budget because this body is not informed a simple five to ten minute presentation from each functional department head the people that do the work would go a long way to helping inform this body a Renaissance is accompanied by knowledge and insight not ignorance demand information from the person that reports to you your motion to vote your motion and vote on D3 today should be to demand more information regarding the remainder of this year and next year's budget yes you are the frogs pay attention to the green curtain thank you for your time and I really really do appreciate the work that you do here I know it's not easy so thank you Nicole Anna gaposis followed by Lauren Taylor followed by Ryan Syed foreign [Music] for the record my name is Nicole Anna gaposis and I speak on behalf of an organization of the people we're called family soup Mutual Aid and um there's a couple people here that I haven't spoken in front of before there's a couple people that of course I'm familiar with so uh for those of you that I haven't met before hi uh our organization delivers Hot Food uh home-cooked meals shelter items fentanyl test strips Narcan and other life-saving necessities to be still unsheltered here in Reno Nevada and I came to specifically talk about the attack last week that happens at the Reno food not bombs distribution happened on Monday I don't know if you guys are familiar with any of that are you yeah you guys heard about that cool um so a woman lost her life her name was Michelle Blair and I had the privilege of meeting her daughter um after that tragedy upon learning of this intentional attack on our extended Mutual Aid family we were immediately impacted and enraged following was a beautiful show of support in the form of monetary donations that poured in from all over the country and even overseas I would like to say that the show of solidarity is something to be proud of and that collectivism once again served to ease the burden of those affected by tragedy but it still pains me that the Stars had the line in this situation in order to bring people together Mutual Aid is a really beautiful thing and if you're not familiar with what it is Google does exist so I suggest you check it out we're not a charity we're not a 501c3 or nothing like that we're just regular working-class people that are trying to help one another and it's kind of unfortunate that we have to do this I mean you guys have seen me here before right I'm gonna work later today I work full time my friends that are here they work full-time some of them are in high school we don't want to have to keep having this conversation for those of us that elect to address the matter of houselessness directly something like this is kind of our worst nightmare Mutual Aid at its very core is the antithesis of violence it is the answer to quelling rage and frustration for those of us at odds with the state that chooses violence against its people every single day that might sound like rhetoric to you but that is what the state does it does choose violence against its most marginalized peoples the poor how many humanitarians need to be physically injured and how many people without shelter need to lose their lives too soon because of the indifference and inaction of a state that directly equates to violence we know Loosely that near 100 people died on the streets last year and how many of their families and friends need to mourn them before you our leadership and that's protections and policies for those people to keep them safe no one should have had to have died and a food not bombs distribution Justice is not about jailing the perpetrator of violence it's about creating and solidifying a future where the instances that lead to violence no longer exist so you guys have that opportunity Mutual Aid is a response to violence it doesn't dismantle a system that breeds violence but I know a couple things that do and I don't want to be that person I'm not an easy person to talk to when it comes to stuff like this I know I look aggressive I look mean I sound angry and I am and that's fine but there are people that are going to follow me after this and there are people that have spoken with you all before that do idealize reform and you have an opportunity to do that reform with them all of you who are not looking at me right now have that opportunity I don't believe in reformism I believe in Revolution but you can work with them to reform please do that do something do anything thank you Nicole Lauren Taylor followed by Ryan syad followed by Alan bema okay good afternoon City Council Members my name is Lauren I'm here as a representative of family suit Mutual Aid and as a representative of my community and as an advocate for the unsheltered and and other marginalized individuals and families in Northern Nevada recently tragedy occurred during a community collaborative event as a distribution organized by food not bombs Reno this distribution provided for the unsheltered population which included the beautiful woman who was known as Michelle Jardine Blair a mother grandmother a sister and a helping friend of the community who in her last moments was worried about finding warm clothing and bringing food back to those she also sought shelter with on the streets of Reno in addition to losing Michelle diamond and Clarissa Roman were also run over while helping Michelle sort through clothing to make sure she found appropriate size clothing and what she needed to survive these two women worked tirelessly to Aid and provide the unsheltered community in many ways but now their lives are forever impacted with the extensive injuries they received this should have never happened and I personally feel that the blood of this tragedy is not only on David Turner's hands the individual who decided to drive his car into the distribution but also the city and the County's hands the consistent rhetoric of homeless people being a burden making our streets disgusting adds to this mistreatment that our unsheltered community receives and it's only getting worse as Jacob's entertainment on behalf of the city of Reno's support as well as the county Who oversee the shelter such as cares and our place this city as we know it is unaffordable and only obtainable by the upper middle class and first-class citizens without addressing housing Security on top of our already unacceptable amount of resources available to this Community as well as Statewide we will continue to see more deaths and tragedy especially with coupled with Rising levels of people who have disdain and hate for inclusion of all in our community despite tragedy many Mutual Aid organizations will continue to provide warm meals clothing and hygiene items on a weekly basis as an organizer for family soup who also distributes food shelter clothing items hygiene items and harm reduction supplies to the unsheltered population as well as crowdsourcing a fundraising effort for food not bombs on behalf of diamond Clarissa and the daughter of Michelle Angie we raised approximately forty thousand dollars when our powers at B were silent on the incident despite knowing the dangers of what we do I can't we can't and we won't give up on our community unlike the city the county and the state for the record the dangers I speak of are not caused by my unsheltered brothers and sisters I am here today to express my deep concern for the hate and bitter criticism from the rest of the community who don't know the faces and stories of those affected day to day by those who come through our line every week who are affected by ongoing systemic oppression it's disheartening to see the lack of support empathy from members of our city who claim to but really don't understand the struggles faced by the less fortunate it's important to remember that homelessness is not a choice but a result of circumstances Beyond an individual's control many people experiencing homelessness are suffering from mental health issues addiction or who have experienced traumatic events it's our responsibility as a community to provide support resources and care to these individuals these deaths are unacceptable and we must take action to prevent them from happening in the future I urge the city council to take a more compassionate approach towards the unsheltered in our marginalized communities thank you Lauren thank you Ryan syad followed by Alan bema followed by Anne-Marie Grant via Zoom not too long ago Michelle Blair was murdered you might know her not know her name because local news just reduced her to her lack of property she was not referenced in name she was not referenced in name in those news I came here today to ask you a question what do we owe the Dead what do we owe them we owe them the effort to create something better we owe them a better system that supports all not just those fortunate enough to afford it I hope you do not forget her thank you thank you Alan bema followed by Anne-Marie Grant via zoom and will truce via Zoom mayor city council my name is Alan Vemma I live in ward 5. I'm having some very big problems currently the Seventh Street between Sutro where it turns into Morrell is being used by people to park and use the street as a bathroom I as a toilet I need this stopped how this the stop is very simple tow the vehicles to the police impound lot put them in the police impound lot and when if they not claimed sell the vehicle that helps Finance what what's needed second problem I have is I have a detached garage at the back of my property on an alleyway it is now being used as a residence by people that I have to evict day by day night by night it is gotten to the rugged Edge Of Violence the police have come and and removed these people this accomplishes nothing and I must address you people there is a simple solution these people must be reminded to continue excuse me continuation High School give them the life training that they need to make a living in this system arresting them does very little but giving them a continuation High School mandatory condition uh continuation High School we'll solve a lot of problems I have had over two thousand dollars worth of damage done to my uh detached garage they re they have destroyed my back fence um they now what the police have when they want me to board up the back uh garage this is not a solution they will pry off the uh the covers and so on and so forth I'm asking you put them on in continuation high school and use a magic phrase have you done your homework thank you all right thank you so much I'm going to have Mr Copeland meet with you right now thank you all right Madame mayor we're going to transition to our Zoom participants so we have Anne-Marie Grant first followed by Will truce okay Anne-Marie grant for the record my brother Thomas Purdy was murdered by Reno Police in Washoe County Sheriff's office during a mental health crisis the City of Reno denied my brother the right to life liberty in the pursuit of happiness I am a vested stakeholder in this community there are multiple community members currently incarcerated at the washer County Jail who are suffering in purgatory denied the right to a 72 hour hearing we have people in custody on Petty glassine with no preliminary hearing having occurred and does not appear to be one in sight a 71 year old veteran who fought for this country and our constitution only to be denied his eighth amendment rights to proper medical attention a wheelchair for someone who is unsteady and has had Falls in an is an outrageous unattainable request that the sheriff's office I heard he finally was released but to whom and where was he sent over to Lakes Crossing for competency evaluations which appears to be the mo to hold people for an indefinite period of time with no redress for release as they are trying to do to an individual I have been made aware of enough forcing a standby proxy mouthpiece from the public defender's office who will do all of the talking for him without his consent and pave the way for damage control with a big jury in sham trial in an attempt to exonerate their criminality in the murder of his elderly mother without ever conducting an inquest into the cause of her death when she was a ward of the state of Nevada if you check out the booking photos many of our community members are battered and bleeding in their photos one man empowered to me that at a time of arrest there was a huge laceration with gushing blood and he was denied medical attention part at the jail the stories of these constitutional violations are numerous and valid my brother and three men were killed by deputies at that jail last summer I remarked to one of the deputies at the jail as I stood outside about how many have died inside power Boulevard including my brother his response people die every day real empathetic deputies in the 2020-21 legislature ab58 gave attorney general Aaron Ford the power to investigate state agencies who have a practice pattern and policy of denying constitutional rights of community members I am calling on all of you to support my call for him to do just that protect your community instead of turning a blind eye to Injustice I don't have much hope though given when you make the living representing bad cops and collective bargaining agreements where this Council basically finds a way the community's rights and allows them to be victimized by law enforcement with no hopes of getting the Bad actors terminated PS turn over the space wheel DFT deny agenda item he wanted to stop using taxpayer dollars to stifle transparency and if you want to know about corrupt city manager Kyle Hall is just check out the non-fiction book to prove his innocence thank you thanks Miss Grant um appreciate your challenges um we have the next speaker please our next commenter is Will truce Mr truce if you would unmute state your name and begin speaking I'm sorry about that yeah we're all unmuted and uh this is Will truce and thank you so much uh to the members of city council and Madam mayor for giving me a moment to speak this morning I just want to make a brief public comment in regard to regards to items D4 the Virginia Street urban place making study I'm a small business owner just a few blocks away from Virginia Street in downtown Reno's historic Marie District I also work with many other neighborhood business owners through my role in The Brewery District Builders Guild finally I was raised in Reno and have always considered this section of Virginia to treat to be the heart of who we are as a community I attended several of the meetings for the place making study and I wholeheartedly support its implementation in fact the results of the study and the extent Community feedback involvement has inspired me as a small business owner a neighborhood leader and a citizen to explore ways to implement similar content Concepts in our district I love this city and I'm so proud of How It's evolving the implementation of this study's findings will continue this Evolution and help us all feel a greater sense of comfort of beauty and most importantly of community thank you for your involvement in bringing this study to life and for giving me the opportunity to voice my support for it thanks will appreciate that do we have any others we do not have any additional public comment at this time okay let me turn to the next item on our agenda um yes Ms door uh we just note for the record we did receive various support opposition or general public comment items that were received prior to um 4 pm yesterday those have been distributed to the Reno city council and are part of the permanent record again as I mentioned a little bit earlier we are having some technical issues in the room today so we did receive eight voicemails those transcripts have been distributed to the Reno city council and are on our website there was one with vulgarity which was not going to be played today in either situation and without we are closing out general public comment all right thank you so much uh we're going to move on to item A4 which is approval of the agenda and I'm looking for a motion before we make a motion I have a couple of questions about something or a couple of requests about the schedule today sure in order to manage the Affairs of the day that are going on outside this room we have a couple things we'd like to take before we do consent I'd like to do item D6 which is the legislative update so that Nick can get back down to Carson for the afternoon and I four which is the place making studies in advance of opening up the consent agenda so we're not moving any items off we're just moving up item D6 and D4 that is my request I also have an introduction to make before we uh actually get into it anything okay I have a question on the agenda sure we had two proclamations yes and I don't see proclamations on the agenda I know we had a revised agenda what what what happened there do I have the right agenda um I think they came up under public comment instead of on their individual items I I'm sure that was a decision made by Mr manager yeah I you know I don't think that is complying with the open meeting law I I think that we've always had Proclamation shown as proclamations I think that were great proclamations I love the dispatch people no one works harder than dispatching a city organization in my view but they need to show on the agenda they're not public comment there's there are other actions you know and and you know the mayor has certain ceremonial roles and a lot of latitude but they need to show on the agenda and Mr manager these were staff oriented ones so you knew they were coming on let's put them on as proclamations let's do it right let's not skirt around the open meeting wrong thank you all right thank you um are there any other comments you wanted to make an introduction Mr manager yes I I do yeah before you do um we have a couple of new family members in the house is okay all right so some of you probably recognize you're probably going to be embarrassed but Landon congratulations welcome to the City of Reno you come well we know you've been at channel two so you probably recognize your beautiful face come on up yeah just come on up for for a minute just what is his job he's gonna tell you ah yeah mayor council hello I have to adjust this a little bit okay uh yeah so I am public Communications specialist for the record here at the City of Reno I began on Monday and my main focus will be kind of treating and dealing with with with the media in town it's something that I have a little bit of experience in uh grew up here in Reno I went to school here in Reno went to the University of Nevada Reno I teach at the University of Nevada Reno now I get to work here at the City of Reno so it'll be cool to uh continue our relationships I know I know so many of you and I've worked with so many of you in a different capacity but now I get to work with you uh in this capacity so I'm excited to to join the team and uh do the great work and tell the great stories of what we're doing here at the City of Reno so thank you yeah that's awesome well you were very cagey on your Facebook you were not making an announcement about this you kept saying this is my last day but I never heard what and you're like I don't know yeah all your viewers want to know where you went well for the public record you can see me here uh right now I'm now officially at the City of Reno as of Monday so yeah I didn't make any I made one little public statement at the very end of our newscast there on on Thursday was my last day there but uh day one here was on Monday and I'm excited so I'm as surprised as everyone thank you yeah it was kind of it was kind of by hand but that's just how we wanted to do it there so yeah cool yeah well we're excited to have you yeah thank you I'm excited to be here great job Rebecca thank you so much that'll be it'll be fantastic oh the whole team's there yeah I didn't know you were born and raised here yeah born and raised went to school here everything here I've never left here is that hard to leave your news family [Laughter] I will say that I was waking up at three o'clock in the morning to do the morning show and I will not miss that yeah yeah my sister did it for years and it was just really really hard on her but we're excited to have you and one day you'll be like this big press secretary or like Mr keycaper you know so Chief of Staff to the governor so you never know who knows all right good start here thank you so much Welcome to our family thank you all I'm excited for the opportunity thank you bye all right any other announcements introductions no that's it okay do you want me to finish out this item okay uh well at this time I'm looking for a motion to approve the agenda as presented by the manager I will motion all right we have a motion for mayor shivi second uh from Miss Taylor um is there any discussion on the agenda further discussion all right hearing none all in favor please say aye okay uh we have unanimous acceptance thank you and handing it back to you Madame mayor for a five thank you so much at this time I'm going to ask Council for approval of the minutes item A5 councilman breakfast I am not going to make a motion in fact I'm going to vote against these minutes they are air riddled okay I am done voting again for iridled minutes and I'm not going to bring it up I mean it's like I don't think it keeps reading them all right thank you so much all right um yeah I'll make a motion but I would like if there are typos if they could be corrected I'd appreciate that and if there are substances what's that I didn't notice serial errors I didn't notice that okay I would like to ask all of the members of the council if you identify any material errors if you could please bring those to the attention of our Clerk and I do that in the briefing you guys all get to see this agenda before we start this meeting I want to let everyone know that we do see our agendas uh in plenty time of advance and I bring it up in in my briefing so um just to make sure that we streamline the process and hopefully that we correct it by the time we get here so anyway okay so I have a motion motion to approve these but if the clerk does find material error she could bring those back for reconsideration okay okay all right I have a motion mayor you maybe have a different view than I but when I get my briefing the um the our platform is not populated with the minutes so the minutes are not populated until the agenda is posted and um the the the one that you know I I'm not gonna carry the burden any longer of of looking over minutes that you know I've been doing for years they're still riddled Miss for example Miss Weber is still shown as missing boats and present as a council member I mean I think that's due to our software unfortunately and I hate our software sorry madam Clarke but it is it's super frustrating so I can understand that but it's certainly it's certainly not intentional and I also I want to commend Miss doer because you've done a really good job of going through the minutes and always bringing it to my attention so thank you so I don't think that it's been remiss but right I appreciate you but I would I do think um after the computer generated minutes are done perhaps our clerk could scrub through and make sure that really obvious things are taken care of all right so I have a motion and a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed motion carries all right thank you so much all right we're gonna move along to consent agenda and I think what we're gonna do uh which I often do we have a lot of items on here so I'm going to ask council members to pull and then we will come back I think with the city managers announcement we're actually going to open item D4 first and we will come back I'm sorry D6 first and then D4 and then we'll come back to the consent agenda okay so we're we'll actually pull the items and then we'll come back to them okay and then we will give the floor to Nick okay I think where are you Nick oh there you are okay um so at this time I'm going to ask council members starting with councilwoman Ebert is there anything you'd like to pull off the consent yeah uh B25 b41 and D4 oh I'm sorry B25 and b41 mp41 okay perfect councilman doors yep I was pulling B25 and b41 also and um let's see mb45 okay councilman Taylor no matter councilman Reese uh nothing Madam mayor all right thank you councilman Martinez I'm 33 and b49 33 and 49th perfect Council on breakfast yeah um let me just write these ones down I am pulling items b14 B24 b26 sorry councilmember can you go a little bit slower yeah yeah b14 24 25 or 26 24 26 35 40. I believe 41 is already pulled by others yes and that's it okay thank you okay with that being said I would like the council to give me a motion to approve all the other consent agenda items yeah metamera make a motion to approve the remainder consent agenda items okay thank you so much I have a motion second I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously and we will come back to the other items that were pulled at this time we are going to hand the floor off to Nick who is doing our legislative update you are doing a fantastic job I had the honor of I guess testifying with you and I was so impressed and I hope that you are loving it and getting everything out of session that you are hoping to obviously you're not but but um I think that you're having a good time and and I think you're doing a phenomenal job Nick so thank you so much because I know it's not been easy thank you very much but we want to get you back to Carson City so that's why we are moving the agenda around so I do want the public to know that so go ahead the floor is yours thank you very much Madam mayor members of the city council Nick Ciccone legislative relations program manager for the record um so today is day 66 we're a little over halfway through the legislative session this Friday marks a major deadline Milestone uh all most of the bills have to get through first house committee passage by that time if they don't then they will be dead and not continue further on down the process um April 25th that's coming up in a couple weeks and that will be the first house Passage so today I wanted to go over some major themes that we're seeing that will have local impacts for the city I'll go over the top bills that we have been focusing on some issues related to housing and affordable housing homelessness prevailing wage which has been a very common theme this legislative session and a few other items that I've testified on just to let that be known on the record so with respect to our top priorities Senate Bill 12 is our Charter bill um though we have had many extensive conversations with the members of the committee that bill will not be moving forward based on the deadline that's coming up this Friday uh we could not get the votes uh the consensus and the the way that the state is moving away from at-large voting and at large positions was consistent with our our at-large and Sixth Ward change so that bill will not be moving forward assembly Bill 62 um that bill we're continuing to work on we've been working very closely with Nevada hand and some of the bill sponsors it has been referred to finance or Ways and Means so we're continuing to stay on that and work with the chair of ways and means to make sure it continue continues moving forward assembly Bill 408 is the trick driving bill that we've been talking a lot about that bill um just changes a few things it would allow for us to charge someone with trick driving on any premises which the public has access to which just means like a Target parking lot or a Walmart parking lot the other thing that it does is it would allow us to give a citation to an individual and then tow the vehicle if they are given that citation there are a few other things that are happening with that bill with respect to storage fee for someone that has been uh whose vehicle has been towed uh but that just went through its work session this morning and passed unanimously out of committee uh with respect to housing there have been a lot of bills that have to do with tenant protections and I don't want to get too into the nitty-gritty because these don't have a direct impact on the city but I know that they're important to our city council um there are some a number of resolutions or measures that touch on protections for tenants with respect to making sure that they know all of the fees uh fines deposits repairs that they might be charged for in some kind of appendix um there is a an effort to change the summary eviction process both of those bills are the exact same they're just starting on separate houses the major thing that that changes is currently a tenant if they are given notice of eviction needs to file an answer with the court this would change the system so that the landlord would have to first file a complaint with the court and then the tenant would have an opportunity to answer the complaint from the landlord with respect to affordable housing I already went over ab62 but if somebody built 213 is uh the majority leaders housing and land use Bill we are in neutral on that bill based on the changes that have been made but that would require us to post some information on our website about residential land use and create an expedited process for the affordable housing land use measures Senate Bill 318 we did not testify on that but that would allow cities to charge a 25 surcharge and that money would need to be used for how affordable housing services with respect to housing I'll continue There was a bill from the city of Las Vegas that's assembly bill 10. it's the housing and transportation reinvestment zones that would give the city council authority to put tiffs tax increment financing in order to fund affordable housing projects or Transportation projects in that area um with respect to ab298 that's another bill that mostly goes over uh fee appendix appendices and allows renters to see all of the charges that they might have to pay uh when they get their lease it also has a pilot rent stabilization program that would not allow uh for the next year so from 2023 to 2024 the end of 2024 of seniors so 62 plus they would not their rent would not be able to go up by more than 10 percent ab362 is another bill that has to do with rent control and ties That to CPI and a cost of living assembly Bill 396 that is a bill that is giving 44 million dollars to uh Clark County for their emergency rental assistance program uh in the Committee hearing it became clear to me that they did not think that there was a need for that money in Northern Nevada so I've been talking with the bill sponsors and some of the members specifically from the Northern Nevada delegation to see if we can get some money for our rental assistance program and I've asked for eight million dollars and uh over the next two years so that we can continue funding that and helping our citizens their most in need ab416 would allow for property tax exemptions for a property that has adus that would only allow Ed thank you they would be able a property owner would be able to file for a property tax exemption if they had someone renting out an accessory dwelling unit on their property that was receiving a housing Choice voucher or some kind of uh rental assistance Senate Bill 371 that's a very simple bill but it would give rent control authorization to local governments so that they can enact uh specifically rent control but it does say various affordable housing measures Senate Bill 426 is another one that ties uh rent uh to the cost of living and that is State controlled so that would be coming out of the state housing division assembly Bill 135 that expands access to identification for unhoused individuals Senate Bill 155 that originally was a housing homelessness ordinance restrictions so the cities and counties would not be allowed or able to have ordinances with respect to unhoused people this would now the bill has been substantially changed to model and encourage other cities to model our community Court program Senate Bill 317 would allow unhoused people to use whatever Services whether it be the cares campus they could use that as their temporary mailing address so they could continue to get mail for whatever um various things they need to request in order to get back on their feet prevailing wage so we did testify in opposition to these three bills for assembly Bill 235 that bill specifically as it is written if a customer fabrication was made for a public work and it was made off-site uh we would be as the the city uh required to go and check and make sure that prevailing wage is paid in another state or country if this bill was passed as the um the current language is worded Senate Bill 226 changes the definition of a public work in Senate Bill 433 they both have very similar impacts but our main concern our largest concern was that there was no cut out for affordable housing projects so if we were to donate land to an affordable housing project they then would have to pay prevailing wage for that project same thing goes for any of the sewer fee waivers that the city council has allocated to various affordable housing projects some of the other items that we have testified on uh assembly Bill 2 that's the blue lights bill from the city of Sparks um that passed out 410 in uh the assembly so that is going to go over to the Senate assembly Bill 20 allows for us to access the Clean Water State revolving Fund in order to convert uh septic to sewer assembly Bill 102 is the ban on Wildlife killing contests I am not sure if that bill will continue moving forward I have not seen a work session for it so far assembly Bill 131 creates a Statewide urban forestry program which would allow us to reach out to the Statewide program and uh work with them on various targets and other things addressing heat mitigation assembly Bill 140 makes June teeth a state holiday it's already a Federal holiday so this would just clean that up a bit assembly Bill 258 the way that that bill is currently written it would inhibit our ability to process or show public records with respect to a non-profit so if a non-profit were to be cited an email that might accidentally come out by one of our clerks or one of our city employees then they would be civilly liable because we are supposed to protect that non-profit's information the broadness of that bill and the 7 500 civil liability that this city would be opened up to is why we testified in opposition to that bill other items Senate Bill 11 would allow for Joan use for Building Inspections Senate Bill 81 has been substantially amended but that would just require each of the counties in the nearby area to report on the positive and negative effects of the growth that has come from economic development in the area Senate Bill 92 originally we did testify in opposition to that bill because it greatly uh inhibited the city council on local authority to step in to regulate that business practice but as it is now that bill has been substantially amended and allows us to regulate the time place and uh the licenses For That Senate Bill 169 we also testified in support of that and that uh just would require a heat mitigation element in the master plan and just real quickly I want to thank all the staff that has been so great at uh reviewing these bills and letting us know the Department's views or positions on each of these matters and I specifically want to thank any any of those that had come down and testified with me in support of these measures right great job I'm going to start with Council on breakfast and then we're going to move to councilman Dory thank you mayor I um I didn't move my agenda to hit the speak but I I appreciate being just identified kind of waved me down with sb12 um now we have to have a Sixth Ward and someone called to my attention that there's a map that's already been created by staff that shows that Sixth Ward I guess our city manager oh here he comes do we have a six word map already that's been prepared because there was one shown up on a social media platform that was an April Fool's joke that was not ours okay so when are you gonna put the agenda item on for the council to decide how to do that redistricting process Mr Hodge and I had that conversation at the tail end of last week in the beginning part of this week and I expect that you'll see it soon I I hope it's the next meeting reached out to me my seat will be vacant in the 24 election people want to throw their hat in the ring but they're afraid to because if they signal they want to come in someone who wants to have their friend or someone else this body that draws the maps will draw them out could draw them out um we've got maybe you know other seats that are open someone's already announced they get a draw and approve their maps and so people are on the sidelines they want those Maps drawn our bodies should be deciding that well I'd like to have I think that is wrong that's why I was very much against this very wrong and you you supported it 10 years ago and said the same thing that body should not select the the districting and I agree and that's why I want the item to come back at our next agenda I'll prepare language but I would like this body to appoint an independent redistricting committee that brings a map to this Council to go up or down up or down yep okay okay moving on um the red stabilization bills I want to take votes I support them I want to I'm going to make a motion to support I can do it all of them individually or I can do them all in a sweep but I want this body to be on record taking votes for rent stabilization or not um 371 is a no-brainer because it gives rent control authority to the local governments which are former Governor thinks we already have but our City attorney has told me we don't have so if it's clarification to me that's a no-brainer I would be willing to take that one separately but 298 was that Senator spearman's Bill that he had a hearing the other day that's the majority Leader's bill I believe the one you're referring to is Senate Bill 426. 426 and then the 362 is the one she's a assembly woman from the south and culinaries in Sparta that one I believe 362 and 426 are the same bill 426 looks like it is the only one moving well I'm prepared to make motions for all of them or I will make motions individually for them if members don't feel that they have enough information but I am going to make motions for these because I want our staff to be down there advocating for these bills not on the sidelines if people don't think they're ready that's fine no one has to Second my motion but I'm going to make so mayor wait wait wait can we please can we please let's give everyone a because Council endure needs to speak and then we'll get back to you sure all right go ahead councilwoman yeah I apologize thanks you go right ahead since this one's up I wanted to start here on ab298. um I feel a little bit of ownership of this bill because um during last year uh although not necessarily in its current form but during last year I became aware that seniors in affordable housing were receiving uh rent increases seniors and affordable housing so this is affordable housing we've set a standard for what you have to earn to be in there you know minimum and a maximum um and what was happening is that as our regions wage increased due to the efforts of Edon and others to bring in higher paying companies which is to the good and headquarters which is to the good at the same time it drove up the Ami the average median or annual median income and in driving it up the um the housing groups were able to raise rents on our seniors and everyone living in affordable housing to those new levels and so some of them were getting 50 100 or more dollars two hundred dollars in rent increases equaling up to 20 25 increases in one year and so I last year testified at an interim committee saying that at least for seniors in affordable housing I thought all right maybe start small we don't know how this would work but I thought we worked hard to get the folks there we worked hard with rent vouchers to help them stay there and why should rent increases be going why should rent be going up just because we now have a better paid Workforce it does not trickle down to people that are living in affordable housing especially seniors on a fixed income so it sounds like what's that when supply and demand does that right well so but these seniors were calling me saying I have no more money and from Social Security I've no no increases to be able to pay the increased rent so it sounds like ab298 the way you described it was um that that would be a 10 percent increase would be allowed instead of what I experienced was 20 25 even 30 percent increases in just one or two years so is that what you're saying on this Bill yes I I know that there are carve outs for um various public entities and affordable housing projects and the other rent stabilization bills I don't remember if there is one in ab298 but the situation you just described might not be impacted by it well I guess what I'm wondering it says seniors is this so if you live in let's just say any housing and you're a senior is would this cap your rent is that what this is yes okay so that's different but there might be a carve out for affordable housing projects where they're not protected yes well that's almost like the opposite of what I recommended so I guess I'm confused into councilwoman breakfast's Point while I support many of these bills the way I understand them I haven't had hearings on them I don't know the details I don't know how they've been amended I don't know today if I support them I don't know what the work session was just earlier this week so in concept yes we support affordable housing I think all of us but the specifics of these bills like just I I don't know um I have another comment I I'm almost out of time so I can wait for round two but it's also on affordable housing all right any other council members go ahead councilman Martinez thank you so much Nick appreciate the information I'm going back to SBE 12. um just out of curiosity I know we talked about one specific portion of it but I'm just wondering if there's opportunities for the other two things to go through is that you think that bill is is done completely I know there were no issues with gendered gender-neutral language but uh there were various members on the committee that had uh taken issue with the fact that there is no definition of green infrastructure projects and because I had said on the record that we already had the authority to to implement those kind of projects so I I'm not sure that it would move forward without any additional provisions okay and then I just want to comment that I appreciate the neutral stance on sb92 thanks all right any other comments from Council Members go ahead councilwoman Taylor thank you this is a question more for Nick what are you asking us for today are you asking us to look at all these bills and vote on them and support them I think I need some clarification because I well that's nothing generally I just asked you to accept the report that I presented to you um if there was an opportunity I mean if we were going to be looking at all of these separately there would be an opportunity to get more in depth and have more information presented it's that accurate yeah I would be welcome I would welcome the opportunity to give you more information about each of these individual bills usually we accept the report but there's a lot to unpack here and I think councilman doer you said it brilliantly I mean I would like to see each one of them because there's a lot of moving parts and they can kind of move every time you get a hearing so a little a little challenging to know what's going on hold on a second councilman breakfast any anyone else okay I'm gonna go in order councilman Rebecca go ahead three minutes yeah so the stop report says updation discussion and potential direct direction to staff and under that we can make a motion to direct staff to stand in support of bills or to take a position on bills and that's what I want to make a motion for and I will make a motion because I am provided the opportunity to make a motion under our rules okay and I want to address the question before I do that because you'll at the end that's the time to do that I want I want to bring the fact that we're 60 days six days into 120 day session they meet every other year I've been on this body for 11 years and I have had so many people speak about the hardships of rent gouging that they've experienced every year and it comes in different ways you know when we had uh Jacobs doing displacement that was one thing when the Tesla boom started coming on that was another thing we've had uh people bring it up in terms of properties being bought by investors that seems to be a current theme right now Airbnb reallocation but it has been a Continuum it is a drum beat and it is time for us to take a position now or not I haven't read the bills I don't know that's no excuse if this is an issue for someone then we send them down now because we don't have other time they don't come back for two more years so I will be making motions I have read the bills I have comfort that they do what are Reno population needs and wants and expects from us in the 10 years I've seen affordability dissipate from our community I was saying in 2014 2015 I think affordability can really escape a community very suddenly I was struck by how fast we lost it because in 2012 2013 2014 2015 we had good housing affordability that is gone it is because of State policy as Mr said fueling you know our economy people have been lost people have been left behind it is time for this body to just step up and said the message at Carson City we want this tool to to protect our most vulnerable people with the critical right of housing thank you all right thank you councilman Ruckus go ahead okay just to be clear I fully support um the concept of affordable housing 100 and all the details of how we get here I want to explain I'm chair of the Tom wall legislative committee we spend two hours two hours not 20 minutes going over every single bill before we voted up or down to support it stay neutral or uh Advocate against it I have a very good understanding of those along with and I hear the questions from my colleagues on that committee and we make a group decision on every single Bill individually so I do not have the luxury of that and while I've studied these I'm not down in you know I rely on our lobbyists to make a presentation about the day-to-day what's happening in the moment so I'm just going to be clear I I probably would not support a global uh approval and the reason is is I'm pointing out I don't even see the main thing that I propose to legislature last year on here which is to at least provide our seniors that are living in affordable housing some kind of fallback position some type of protection I don't even see that what I what I and I don't understand some of these are duplicate with each other um so that's my challenge I'm sorry I I do want to though speak about two things one is a B I think it's AB 433 is that um yeah expands projects so I understand why we might take a negative view of this I mean I assume red is no but but here's the challenge that I've seen this year I've seen affordable housing done with extremely shy body workmanship to the point that I've had to call uh on behalf of residents in some of these units I've had to call in the fire marshal I've had to call in remsa I've had to uh call in Code Enforcement that heaters aren't working in very new buildings heaters aren't working vents aren't constructed properly the systems alarm systems don't work properly I have a feeling that prevailing wage which generally gets people that are in Apprentice programs or higher with training to do these work I would like to see that frankly I would like to see better workmanship and affordable housing projects I think they deserve it as much as anybody and the fact that these buildings are being built cheaper so that they then can support a lower income residence I don't think that they should be skipping any steps and I don't think that they should have lower qualified Workforce so that's kind of I'm I I know it would drive up the cost but often those are long-term issues so in other words if we support our our construction Workforce with better training better benefits and hopefully better job we are all going to benefit in the cities not going to have to send out code enforcement to clean up afterwards or council members don't have to get involved so I have a mixed opinion I would at least like to see it neutral with others and opposing it but I'm just telling you where I stand and then lastly was there a bill on uh I thought I heard something about a bill related to either Story County or Tesla where a portion of the increase the Deferred taxes would come to counties and cities that are having to take up the slack in terms of Housing and other services is that still on the agenda I did not include that on this agenda because as I understand it that bill will not be moving forward there was not the political support to to get it well at least inform us of that I think I mean because we'd heard about that bill I was hopeful that the city would get some compensation or some ability to respond to the growth demand in Story County with no housing there all the jobs no housing no schools no Services no hospitals no roads essentially yeah we have to do it and oftentimes the legislators they never even come to us before and we deal with this 365 days a year and what they do and picks up it impacts us greatly so it is very very challenging and all of a sudden you just find out here's a bill that dropped and how detrimental it could be to all of us in our community it's really disjointed and not to mention the Ever every other year is really insane um I think we have on two rounds already so are there any other council members council member Martinez nothing okay um so I think we've exhausted our rounds and then um we will you want to make a motion correct but I before you make a motion Council on breakfast um I I kind of want to weigh in I want to be um very specific about why I have heartburn with getting rid of the at large it has nothing to do with who sits there I'm the only person in the city that has been the at large person and the mayor so I see it very very differently it's not about the at large it's about my heartburn of Ward only voting let me tell you why because I often hear not my board not my problem I don't think Reno is big enough to where all of us should be sort of um you know holding on to our own domains that's what sort of happens and why downtown looks the way it does all of us should be rooting for Reno and you should have every single elected on this body rooting for Reno and be interested in what's happening downtown to the south of town to other parts of town um so that to me is very concerning so think about it this way councilwoman doer you just brought up affordable housing projects what if she desperately needs one in her Ward desperately but the rest of this body votes it down well I mean to your point I did and it was a 4-3 vote right and by the way we had four but you're supported why Ward only voting they're saying oh you know your neighbors and your community the best but yet she doesn't get that same opportunity or consideration and you as voters don't get that same consideration because everyone up here just killed what Naomi needed in her Ward how is that fair but yet we can all vote it at large right up here we can vote in the entire city but it doesn't affect you or I or if you have a council member over here that's fighting for her cdbg funds she might get him over here then you have politicians drawing outlining the map that's wrong too that's why we should not have board only voting we should keep in the at large council member but quite honestly there's another side to this people will always say too oh I like that better it costs a lot less to run a campaign about the money now there are some other sides to it I get how people in their own Community should represent their neighborhood that makes total sense to me I understand that but I also think everyone that is elected should also care about this entire city this the same way and now you'll only have one person that'll be your mayor that will care about the entire city everyone else it would create tribalism I just I think it's wrong I have a real heartburn with that but I just want to make it also clear since candy green is in the room for her blog I want to make sure that it's on the record why I feel so strongly about it I'm the only one the only one that has done both positions so I see it very clearly I see it up here the divide it creates I think that's not fair for the voters and it also means you guys have less representation I remember very well when I got on the body there was a ward where people could not work with their Ward member because you feel differently philosophically maybe politically or other reasons that at large member the mayor can step in and work with both even when maybe your your council member it doesn't agree with you you should have other options that you can work with someone to shape your community that's why I feel passionate about it I could care less who sits in that seat I won't be here I won't be here it won't affect me but it will affect the voters so that's why I'm passionate about it and it's truly politics at Play so you can write that down anyway okay thank you go ahead councilman breakfast yeah um oh wait hold on Madam clerk I Ebert is Raising her hand councilman Reese I don't think is he on okay let him know we'll come back to him councilwoman Ebert go ahead I just wanted to comment uh about you know representing your ward and and uh being overruled uh in my short time on the council I've frequently felt that way even with an at large representative so um I just wanted to call that out um I don't feel like I have additional support with an at-large member so um I just wanted to make that statement that I speak up for my award um and to date I've largely been overruled by this body and I have not received support from the at large member so I just wanted to call that out well they can feel differently but I also have come to you personally and said I will help you I want to see things get done I want you to have wins and so you're gonna that's great and so you're the mayor yes I get that support from the mayor yeah okay however not from the at large okay I think it depends on an individual feeling or opinion but I try to work with all of you guys but I get very frustrated when I feel we're all divided here and we should all be United rooting for Reno all right go ahead councilman breakfast yeah so you know in response to Ms Stewart's comment about sitting on the tumwa legislative committee where they read and go through each bill right the first three sessions that I was on this Council we had weekly special meetings going over one so when this body pivoted to not wanting to spend the time on that you know the onus is on us individually to understand what we personally believe is the right approach for our staff to take down there and so I don't think that that is a good argument because well you get your Fridays back but are you doing the work on the other side I know I am I know I am doing what I have heard for a decade now of people being traumatically um and consistently not a lot but enough with rent gouging 14 rent increases six months at a pop and I see bills that prevent that I see 371 that allows and clarifies SB 371 a local government to have their own rent Control Ordinance and I see 426 and 362 that are the same bill that put in these stabilization stabilization breaker points so that people cannot gouge I talked to a lot of landlords all the time there's so many good ones there's so many people doing compassionate work taking people you know to hospice they're like family members but there are some bad bad agents out there who come in with some unreasonable investment expectations oh I've got money I'm going to bring it over into Nevada and I'm going to make a killing well they've made a killing and they've made a killing at the expense of our families and so with that I'm going to make a motion that this body direct Mr chicone to go down and support SB 371 sb426 and ab362. if I get them a second fine if I don't find two thank you all right before we do that do you have councilman Reese on you do okay councilman Reese foreign thank you madam mayor thank you sorry we're having some technical difficulties on the muting and unmuting process um I wanted to say first of all thank you to uh Mr cecconi uh for um the work he's doing in Carson City it is a very difficult work that he does and so I have a great deal of respect for it like Miss doer I serve on a number of different bodies and have found myself on their subcommittees which follow the legislation more carefully as it relates to either the regional planning governing body or the District Board of Health and you know each of the bills has its own complexities um I think that there are lots of things that we could look at in further detail but are not really in front of us today um I can't make a comment on bills that I have not spent time reading each of the minutia because they change rather quickly and I think like Miss doer I Rely Upon some of the leg work that is being done in Carson by our team and so I think again they've done a good job at that unfortunately I think you know the termed out member from Ward one who I think by my calculation you know won election by less than 100 votes uh is sort of trying to make political theater um it's it's something that is you know anathema to good policy right oftentimes I hear the same council member say you know she hasn't gotten briefings she is not getting to read eat the materials she got them late and that somehow she thinks that we're all going to Pivot on a dime because she thinks that she's figured out the solution and and again bad policy making bad choices um it's a very curious thing again because it's more political theater there are some things in Carson that are being supported by Democratic Leadership and certainly I think those are worth exploring but none of those are in front of us today not on the thread there that we have been presented with today happy to have another conversation about it happy to work offline with our staff to see where there are bills that we can support certainly I you know I don't want to see us being um opposed to bills that we have not made choices about but I'm not going to be put into a corner by you know the theatricality of the ward one member in this particular instance all right anyone else oh you have one money um well no actually I gave councilwoman breakfast three minutes go ahead three minutes well what I am prepared to do is just at some point I would like to hear more about the bills that councilwoman breakfast has proposed we vote on and especially I'm more familiar with 371 less familiar with sb426 and 362 whether they're identical whether there are nuances and what they even say I mean up your your headline here on 362 is State cost of living increase Provisions for rent I just I have not followed that bill I don't know what it is or the companion bill in that in the other house so that's my challenge the second thing is I just want it to be known when I do have a passion I do go down and personally testify representing myself I did so on our Wildlife killing contest for example there wasn't there we had taken a resolution so we had an action that this body had taken for or against so I felt comfortable representing our action we haven't had the time I am willing to spend the time I I already spending time on Fridays with someone I am willing to spend more time on this to understand the collegial perspective on each of these bills I do want to say that after we deal with council member Rebecca's motion I'm going to make a motion to change our stance on the a b is it AB 433 from opposed to neutral so that's I think that I feel that strongly I have spent so much time dealing with construction defects on housing affordable housing that I'm that frustrated so can I just speak to that really quickly uh Senate Bill 433 has been substantially amended as of last night but it basically just gives the Labor Commissioner the authority to um act if they feel that we skirted prevailing wage law so if it should have been prevailing wage but it wasn't 226 and 433 are interrelated so the expanded definition of a public work would have larger implications for 433's two sentence bills so what would how would it expand public work uh like I mentioned if we were to donate land to an affordable house project that would be a public work that's good to know I mean I I think that we should not oppose either one of these bills at this time I'm totally fair I just wanted to let you know that 226 is probably more to what you're speaking thank you okay thank you so much I appreciate it um I have a motion from councilwoman breakfast but just I just want to weigh in just a little bit that um I think she brings up some really really valid points um and I agree with a lot of that however you just said that that bill that you wanted to go neutral with changed last night and sometimes they can change at 2 A.M things like that so it's really hard to be following something and then we're voting on something and now we're taking a different position just at the last minute so my point is um I agree with councilwoman doer even though I think councilman breakfast brings up some really good points a very valid but they change and we don't know what those are and if we want to bring you back and have a full comprehensive review of what these look like and as they're changing they move on a dime so it's just really really challenging so that's uh my biggest concern and a lot of them are really important so I have a motion from councilwoman breakfast do I have a second all those uh so motion dies lack of a second I'm going to send it to councilwoman doer and I don't know if mine will pass either if people know enough about it I'm gonna make a double motion my first motion is to change our stance on SB 226 and SP 433 to neutral all right I have a motion from councilwoman Dewer do you have a second okay motion guys do a lack of a second question okay you go ahead my second motion is um I would like to reinstitute briefings at this point in a session we now have a lot of meat uh a plate we know which direction some initial bills are going and I think that before each of these things that are red green and yellow were determined by our staff not us and I think that um we should reinstitute briefings at this point last 60 days we're talking about maybe six briefings or something or maybe a few more um over the next couple months and even if that's one hour you know I think that's the best kind of way to give direction to our staff okay so motion would be to reinstitute some kind of briefing it could be a Monday morning it could be a Friday it could be any day you pick it could be online on Zoom I don't really care as long as we understand what's happening as a body so can I clarify so let's motion to accept the report yes and add that we get a presentation from you I would suggest Zoom so that everyone can be flexible and you can stay down there correct because that's the biggest issue is you coming back and forth so and it could be an optional briefing I mean but we're still would vote take positions and then also just to let everyone know Nick has reached out to me and I would hope you guys I think they're all on the email um giving us updates and you have been incredibly accessible the entire time yeah and I can call you anytime and uh and you give me a full update so that's absolutely true and I've gotten those updates it's just that they're not with my colleagues so I really don't know how everybody feels about things all right so that America go right ahead if I could uh accept the report I just want to make sure that the second motion we're all talking the same thing what I heard is a request for a special meeting since this body is going to be voting on taking positions at the legislature is that was that the intent yes of yours it wouldn't start this Friday it would start the following okay so when you say briefings we're not talking like serial briefings and then direction to staff we are talking about doing the first meeting I thought about presentation okay yeah fair enough I just wanted to make sure we were yeah a special meeting like we have every other legislative session where we almost every other legislative session no no agreed I understood I just wanted to make sure that you understood that the motion was saying that we need to schedule special meetings correct to take votes on correct specific legislative yeah if we want to we don't have to take a vote but it gives us opportunity to take a vote correct okay foreign yes that was a motion second so I so I have a motion I have a second from councilwoman Uber for discussion okay that's what we're at go ahead councilwoman Taylor thank you madam Merritt I I might be a little bit confused but I am getting briefings from you I think I just had one yesterday so don't we already have briefings scheduled with you yes so this is different okay what is it this is sitting together on zoom and potentially hearing it as a body and potentially giving our staff Direction as a body not as individuals based on what Madame Mary just said and these are things that are changing every day I'm not going to be in support of that and we also went into our platform already of what we were looking at as a city thank you I think staff is a little concerned okay it's a little bit more clarity on this all right so just the expectation is you're requesting a special meeting a public meeting correct that'll be either here or it'll be on Zoom but again it will be posted in accordance with an RS 241 um and they'll be prepped for it and there will be the ability for the public to view it and the ability for people to take so I just want to make sure that because I think staff that's all living a different thing you've said it exactly right and here's also my my issue with that and I just want to bring a little bit of a different perspective okay sometimes if you can't get enough council members you don't have a quorum the other also the other issue is people might feel very differently is we kind of heard today a little bit about bills and what they look like and then you kind of go round and round around and then it's like is that the city's position or is that councilwoman breakfast's position you just don't know so that that can be also counterproductive I thought personally and if this doesn't pass then maybe how it looks nice that Fridays we get an update from you we can um all be on there and it is noticed uh Jonathan Shipman our City attorney that it's noticed so other people from the public can participate but that way Council can get an update and they can ask questions and um I guess you could agendize it for possible consideration possible actually what no he's saying no no no again this is where the clarity needs to be there so what you're asking for and what the motion is asking for and what is being heard is essentially calling a special meeting on Fridays now if that doesn't require you to take action on a particular bill or whatnot but all the formalities relative to the open meeting law will have to be observed so right I just want to make sure that everybody's talking the same thing oh my goodness okay I'm gonna since I'm making the motion let me clarify for the record okay item D6 you see how it's agenda staff report for possible action update discussion and potential direction to staff regarding proposed legislation at the 82nd session other than A legislature identical agenda item on Friday with a little bit more time and a focus on specific bills with potential direction we may not give it and let me be clear I do this every other Friday with tomoir and Western Regional Water Commission this exact agenda item it is open to the public we meet we discuss all the legislation we give our lobbyist or representative representative direction we may not all agree if we don't all agree at that meeting we either it's status quo or we go in a different direction I mean that's it it's exactly what we have on our agenda here today okay I have a question for the attorneys on this uh this meeting is a meeting of the city council correct a special meeting the city council correct and um then there has to be a place and location for it yes correct and the place and location will be these Chambers yes but individual members in accordance with open meeting law have an ability to be present or on Zoom correct is that your interpretation of the open meeting law correct it's essentially this meeting but it's a special meeting so to the extent that okay individuals the public and the the member is going to participate via telecommunication or Zoom whatever okay I wanted Clarity on your interpretation of the open meeting law could be because she said originally on zoom and I just didn't know if you felt that the open meeting law allows a member to be here or a member to be on Zoom at their own decision making and I agree with that yeah I mean if a member can participate over Zoom as long as it meets the requirements the other thing or they can be here correct or they can be here so you have the option okay I'm not going to support the motion because from my experience having been on this body as long as the mayor would when we had Friday meetings there was more work early in the session on those and then once the bills close up you know no more introductions and so on then those meetings fell off now Ms Stewart wants to kind of reverse that I think it's not a good process I don't think we should change horses Midstream I think the decisions been made it maybe makes people feel good who you know can't support bills certain ways because they didn't do the front end work early on like meeting on Fridays so I won't support the need the motion um but I won't if it goes you know maybe I'll show up on these Fridays maybe I won't thank you okay thank you so much all right so I have a motion from councilwoman doer I have a second from councilwoman Evert right all those in favor say aye aye all right all those opposed posts all right motion uh fails so let me just try to get us back on track here because I know you need to be in Carson and I apologize for making this confusing and I think we're all trying to get there in a different capacity what I would say is just do what you're always doing and being accessible to the council so at this time I'd like to accept uh your report second I have a motion I have a second second all those in favor all those opposed I motion carries unanimously see there are some things we do disagree we do agree on so good job man shock that all right thank you so much and good luck take care drive safe what I didn't call me you know I've met America just uh as we do our individual briefings let me just say this I do think this session is different they've extended several deadlines bill they introduced more bills than they ever had by far uh the bills have been significantly amended there's a lot changing as in comparison to previous sessions that's my observation so to share for the group we we all have to pay attention okay all right Madame mayor all right we are going to move into D4 D4 and I'm really excited about this item um I really feel like I hate to say this well Nick I would like to have uh we have an attorney client can we do a 30 minute break yeah because I need everyone to get up stretch your legs out of the bathroom and be 45. so we'll do it Jonathan uh City attorney Shipman how long 45 you can do that okay so let's come back at 1 15. all right thank you so I want to get to that first to get you out of here and I feel terrible terrible terrible terrible so I would just ask this body when you guys pull items I want to make sure that we do not have a business uh waiting on that business license and then they have to wait on us um not not great and I'm sure Scott's got to get back to his incredible business and doing all the great things that you do matter of fact if you don't know Scott he is so thank you so much thank you for making our city cool all right Madam clerk thank you madam mayor so does that mean we're going to open item b14 we are okay so we're gonna go on to item b14 pulled by council member Ruckus all right yeah Council on breakfast go ahead yeah this is a a business license for what number was it again 14 yeah 14 14. and it's um it's a business license for on-premise wine and beer but it was rather odd um uh because it said it's temporary during wine walks or something I I'm just I'm trying to get a handle on what that sure what that means for the record Lancer auto business license manager so as you said this is temporary um it's temporary service it's a full-blown license but historically this business has participated in the Wine Walk and so with uh their with their ability they they have to either get temporary permitting or get a catering license to come perform that dude or perform that service hit the Wine Walk so in order to make it a little more streamlined and efficient they just decided to go let's get a full-blown alcohol license to pour on on type wine and beer um why don't we just make it more difficult for these uh for these special events to survive well let's just this is what in order to serve alcohol you've got to be approved by obviously the city the state uh I'm sorry the city you have to um have security measures you have to have alcohol awareness cards there are all sorts of state laws involved in that kind of thing too so with this the health department says that uh temporarily you can pour wine without a full bar or a permanent bar now it's my understanding that the licensee is going to imp is going to put in a full bar at some point and offer local product to customers but for the time being they're allowed to do this during the Wine Walk is I'm not aware of the landlord yes so that's where I'm having a hard time I mean full bar in facility and we haven't had that discussion uh we have it you know so I I'm having a hard time I really I'm not going to support I'm sorry I understand where you're going at I love your business but I'm kind of over here with uh proliferation of wine and alcohol in this area and I think you know it doesn't have a bar the landlord hasn't you know unless someone tells me the landlord has you know is gonna has a lease for a bar and we're the landlord I just I'm not going to be comfortable with this one I just wanted to clarify it all um because the statement seemed unclear that he has a plan to get a bar in you know um and I'm not gonna even bring him up he is he had a plan to get a bar in then I should be single Elise revision here in front of us so anyway um okay so this is also one of those I want to not on the 24th agenda and I'm sorry I've told people that today but we need to get it on the um let's see the first meeting in may we need to get these special events on in May I am having a really tough time because every time I'm out in the community I am hearing how difficult the City of Reno is to work with this is also another example that we're putting in I mean Mr dunseith how long have you been doing the Wine Walk please will you come on up and maybe you can explain what you want to do yeah yeah don't see um I'm the owner of the homies Nevada store uh previously Reno Envy we also manage the Reno Tahoe Visitor Center on behalf of the rscv and the City of Virginia you can tell massive ambassador of Reno I'd like to think that thank you I love this place um a little bit of background we started our business in 2005 started in the West Street Market with a partnership with the City of Reno we've participated in the Wine Walk every month since then it's a great way to get people downtown more importantly for me for my business it's a way to get people through my doors and historically it's my best day of retail sales every month because we have a sale people are coming to my business they might have had a drink or two so their wallets open up a little more freely so it's an incredible event I was able to I was asked to go to the special events meeting in January where um I was a little bit blindsided by the new regulations that are being rolling out for special events and basically the way that it was presented to us is that it's really so cumbersome to get a special permit yes do you see please hear hear let's hear this the real challenge for us is in the past as the Wine Walk has always been a special event because a business like mine I don't own a I don't have a liquor license so to be able to participate I had to fill out an attachment C which I think think is an outdated form but it basically allowed me to submit that to the special events committee and then we would get approval for the events but it always had to be a special event that we paid money for and got police security for so moving forward in January we were told that really the only way uh if we if I wanted to continue to participate in the Wine Walk I would have to basically borrow someone else's liquor license uh Matt Paulie from The Office was kind enough crazy he's great he's like Scott you can you can use my liquor license if you want so he has to fill out the attachment C for me and then ice he submits it on my behalf the challenge is for mad and I he was a great friend but I don't know if I would do it for him well of course the challenge is is that if I get in trouble or misbehave or we serve then the um then it falls back on that or the other business who let me who loaned their business license to me we thought of many ways to sort of address this issue I'm the past president and I'm one of the board members of the river Merchants Association we try to get creative come up with a solution we thought maybe the Riverwalk Association could apply for a business license and then we could sort of be that partner when other businesses like my retail businesses that don't hold a liquor license wanted to participate we went through that process did a little Discovery discovered that uh individuals board members like myself would still be liable for other people's issues or mistakes if something were to happen so continuing to want to participate in the wine walk I'll be honest retail is very difficult downtown um yes any business is difficult retail specifically but one of the ways that we've been able to survive is really through these Partnerships with the City of Reno rscva and also I'll be honest that that monthly Wine Walk just that's that makes my sales every month um so I took it upon myself to apply for my own business or liquor license uh and and because I felt that was really the only way that I could just be solely responsible for everything within my walls there's a little bit of misinformation I did float the idea of possibly in the future at some point putting I'm like well I have a liquor license what else can I do with it the point of this meeting and the point of my application is simply to be able to serve wine and beer at the Wine Walk and then any other special events like dine in the district or possibly even the crawls the other full bar idea is really it's expensive not something I want to participate in but I'll float another idea the idea with the rscva that we wanted to start serving and promoting local beers and local breweries and to do that we wouldn't need a full bar we would just need the uh we'd be able to sell individual canned items or beer or wine and then the pizza would have to open it and serve it himself in a plastic cup so that's where the concept of the full of the bar came about we don't want to open a full bar we're not in the bar business we're in the t-shirt and the community service business right did you hear that t-shirt and community service business and I just keep hearing over and over again when it whether it's popped on the River or the cross or the Wine Walk how difficult we have made it in the City of Reno our city manager has assured us that it's going to come back in May I really need you to be there um I am so sorry I want to apologize uh we should be known for great special events and also helping our businesses downtown we want to have a thriving downtown but we will never have one if we have a process that is cumbersome and make it really hard for businesses to participate not to mention this is how we activate downtown these are about activation um so we'll we're going to bring it back to the council we'll let them decide I might feel very differently than the rest of the council but I truly want to apologize because this seems absolutely Insanity that you got to get on the agenda to make this happen I I'm just are there any other council members have any discussion well could I just ask Mr ferrado so are we conditioning this license is that it's just going to be liquor during these wine walks or is it you know I just I kind of want to start off for the record it'd be conditioned that you could on-premise wine and beer could be sold during the wine walks on crawls and that's it that's it that's how we would condition it okay because you know I I appreciate her thinking is we've got to have this conversation we need to do things I just don't want to one set of precedent that's unfair to others who you know they they've got a full bar they've melt the hat made the Health Care Health Board standards for you know the tenant improvements um so you know they're not you're getting treated you know differently than them and then two also um make sure that you know um well I guess the the point is we're not like oh we fixed it with you know Mr dunseith so we're good you know and that's how then you don't have to you know never get to doing the heavy lifting because you make you wink nod on rules and you're okay and then the heavy lifting never gets done because I do think there's probably some heavy lifting to occur um and I just don't want to set a precedent you know we got past that one we'll move on so the mayor says she's gonna you know tackle this issues in more you know more detail we've got something somewhat related later um but his is conditioned to just the wine walks in the crawls correct okay then I can support and I'll make the motion no hold on one second sorry you guys I'll get back to you in a second councilman uh vice mayor Reese go ahead thank you madam mayor I just wanted to uh sort of share uh my thanks to Mr Dunces for uh continuing to believe in Reno through not only Reno Envy but the shop you know I've come in there many times um I know that you're working to activate downtown and working with the various Merchant associations as well um I I think ultimately you know we're struggling as a council because we want to have activation we certainly want to be a business friendly and pro-business environment we don't want to make it more difficult for businesses to succeed but there are regulations because it's really not about the good actors I think you are a good actor I think Mr Polly is a good actor there's lots of good actors but for every good actor we also have to think about what happens when there are Bad actors and so these regulatory Frameworks and schema seem overly punitive when they're directed at good actors but they become more challenging when we're trying to do with Bad actors and so it's a balancing act right I ultimately uh think like the mayor does that we've got to just sort of dig very deeply uh we have another agenda item today talking about the the gel Place making study and it really speaks to trying to make sure that we have a robust vision for downtown because we want people to enjoy being there whether that's um you know junkie moving their location down to a person Virginia or whether that's you Mr strunzy's trying to continue to be a great Ambassador those are the kind of things that we want to support ultimately perhaps when we get to this next meeting and the mayor's vision is more comprehensively addressed there are perhaps ways that we can have a regulatory schema that balances all of those needs but also is innovative right I think Innovation is it's kind of the Cornerstone of our next you know five and ten year vision for the city because it will allow us to grow in ways that we have not historically and so we want to support you we want to support special events and different activations so happy to support this you know licensure and I a great opportunity I'm sorry it's you know you've had to come down and take the time to do it but I think we'll get there okay thank you uh vice mayor go ahead councilman door I mean I'm just looking for the the next presentation because I too am hearing from constituents about kind of the disharmony or Discord or uh probably a better word I'm looking for but it's it's not working on the events like that it just sort of shut down we heard today uh from the Riverside farmers market that the cost is so exorbitant for them just to do a farmer's market so we we don't want to make it so expensive those are the kind of events we want that bring lots of people very wholesome celebrate local food local culture what more do we want but we're going to charge them six thousand dollars and I actually think like those non-profit farmer markets are stuff that we should be taking on at the city so I don't want to get off agenda topic but I support the application appreciate everything you've done I mean I've had an opportunity to participate in the wine walks it's a beautiful event I can't say all that for all the crawls but um I think the wine walk in particular is very well done thank you at the Santa Crawl oh come on we're not talking about that all right anyone else matter I just like to add something real quick as well a lot of the concerns that you brought up today will be addressed when we're able to open up chapter five as Miss attorney talked to the to the council a couple weeks ago about doing a four a chapter four in chapter five rewrite so special events 5.13 falls into that these are all going to be looked at and this is part of our major concern so it is being looked at and uh you know for the for the benefit of council this this was the ease this was us working within the code to make this possible and easy for the for the licensee to do this as opposed to having to fill out temporary permits every time having to put liability on other people so that's why we're here today and I appreciate that like you trying to figure out how you get here um I what I also worry about is for you know the ones got done see that comes and you know has this issue do you know they're probably 10 through your door that said you know what forget that forget that we just happen to be lucky because we hear it firsthand but I've been kind of dealing with it all week and before city manager knows that and I've been harping on him and harping on him about you know special events and because honestly they really make our city Thrive but I know being a small business how important it is to have an event it's so so important it can almost like pay your entire rent right and then today here you are we start at 10 o'clock it's two o'clock and I know you were away from your business all day that's really tough too because you had to pay someone to Watch Over the store I get that too like so I just think that we've got to um take into consideration I appreciate it Lance I think that is fantastic but we also have to have the mentality that we are open for business and for small business because I hear it from small business too um we cannot make these processes more cumbersome we have got to streamline it and we really we and especially after the pandemic like let's go let's stay open let's get thriving but let's do it together but also we want to be helpful the city we don't want to put in red tape but I think you're coming back you'll have all the answers I know you will because you and Miss Turney are Innovative and smart so bring us the best of the best easy I don't want the businesses to have to worry about especially when you activate downtown downtown is struggling it's been tough so anyone that wants to take the risk and invest in it thank you thank you right so let's get that I appreciate it we will have it on the agenda in May um because we've got to get going because a lot of events will come through this summer and um what else was on there you said title what are we doing Title Five rewrite okay so all I would ask I want to do a great job in the city of making sure every single promoter event um anyone that's doing Special Events even small businesses come down and participate because a lot of times later on they'll say oh I didn't know or you know this is messed up and we really we kind of need to all do it together so whatever we do if we can promote it um to as many people as possible in the city uh to be part of the process because that'll really help we can change things so I have emotion I have a second I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously thank you so much all right nice seeing you Scott it's been years all right we're gonna go ahead and move on to D4 David four D4 and this is a presentation from Amy Pennington okay hold on hold on one second make sure we're right there how are you I am are you excited I'm very excited I'm I'm very excited to be here I am talking about a very exciting time to see you we don't get to see you as much anymore I know I know it's funny it's so great to see you okay this is the item that we have all been uh waiting for so and this is about the Virginia Street urban place making study um so I'm gonna give you the floor hold on one second prior to the presentation we do have several individuals that have joined us for public comments so would you if we're okay well to go ahead and start with public comments yeah let's do the presentation sounds good okay our first public commenter is Matthew Manser followed by Luke Busby hi I'm Matt Manson I'm from award two um first off I wanted to thank the the council and the mayor that you guys have done an excellent job with the homeless population here in town I visit other towns and I see that Reno you're doing a great job with the homeless stuff I know it's a thankless job but I wanted to thank you guys on that um something uh recent in the news is uh Paris recently voted to get rid of the electric scooters 89 of the population voted that they didn't want those uh rental electric scooters in Paris Barcelona is also looking at getting rid of them London has already gotten rid of them they're not allowed on any public roads and Rome is also looking to get rid of them as well they're no longer in fashion they're they're a danger out there I'm also an Uber driver and a cyclist so I understand uh how traffic works in the city very well I do it every day I pick up these kids from the University all the time and I ask them about the e-scooters and they go oh that's a really good way to get around when you've been drinking they thoroughly believe that they won't get a DUI if they're writing those e-scooters intoxicated ask them they'll tell you that as well so I I've talked to other people the city I know that contract can be is a franchise contract and can be ended and I suggest that before somebody dies in our own City on those that we get rid of them now they they really are an eyesore um the other thing I want to talk about I went to the micro Milli micro Mobility presentation where they um talked about different microbility their their survey that they did um they started out the presentation by saying well we estimate that there's 28 500 people that commute by bicycle or e-scooter in Reno every day that's what they started out so and the audience were like huh so finally somebody spoke up and said where'd you guys get those numbers and they go oh we looked at other City comparable cities and we sort of just came up with that number based on other cities and when pressed further I asked what cities were though and they said well we looked at Portland and we looked at Denver and I said well those aren't really comparable cities to Reno Portland is one of the biggest cycling cities uh in the country and then the gal says well the 28 500 that's the number we would like to be at so I guess my point is RTC is way over funded any of these micro Melody micro Mobility projects they have going are just a way to spend taxpayer money they have to justify their jobs so they come up with these crazy ideas as a cyclist and I'm actually a leader in the cycling Community we don't want these things and we just ask them you guys to look at that and be wary of RTC in any of their projects thank you thank you Luke Busby good afternoon um I represent Palace Jewelry and Loan which was founded in the 1950s and has been in business in some form in its current location on Virginia Street since the 70s I'm here to urge you to vote no on item 4D and to reject the recommendations of the gel study and the associated implementation phases the cycle track project has been derailed despite its popularity with seemingly everyone except for Road casinos on board and despite the Headway Transportation study indicating that Center Street was appropriate for bike lanes while Virginia Street was definitely not it appears that a single November 30th 2020 letter from the Rogue casinos Law Firm McDonald Carano made RTC in the city completely changed gears and abandoned cycle track without any consultation with the other businesses downtown the last page of the letter from the Rogue casinos shows the property where Palace my client is located as an underground parking strucker structure slash special events Plaza and Palace was never consulted about the proposed transformation of its place of business to an event Plaza or parking lot I'd be glad to show you the map from that document right here I'm sure if you can see that but at the corner of Plaza and Virginia Street that large pink Square that's where my clients do business I'm sorry which way is north on this map okay yeah there you go thank you the pink Square not the pink rectangle okay that's them uh so at all the public meetings with gel RTC in the city about this project and others multiple stakeholders ask the question uh what happened to the plans for the bike Lanes on Center Street when and by whom was it decided to change course is the unanswered question that everyone seems to know the answer to the city has permitted large casinos to dictate to the city how downtown should be developed for far too long and the gel study is essentially a pretext to provide the justification to pursue a development program that is desired by the casinos and when the power to direct the shape of community spaces is concentrated in the hands of the few the results are predictable over the years big casinos got the train trench they got the bowling Stadium the ballroom the downtown convention center the narrowing of Virginia Street which eliminated wide sidewalks and on-street parking and skyways that kept pedestrians off of downtown streets these actions led to the destruction of so many small businesses downtown and in the early 90s there was almost zero vacancy and now other than the big casinos there's severely curtailed occupancy gal study is another step in the same wrong direction towards forcing existing small bells businesses like Palace out of business and forcing them to go elsewhere and a reasonable person could question whether the disregard for the opinions of all other stakeholders belies the ultimate objective to replace downtown businesses with special events plazas the fact that gel holds up San Francisco which is succumbing to a fentanyl and other drug-fueled zombie apocalypse is an example is not an example to be emulated by the city and the last thing we need is to turn our downtown into San Francisco Palace urges the city to avoid embarking on another grandiose Urban Development misadventure and to vote against pursuing the recommendations from Gel instead the city should go back to basics listen to small businesses on Virginia time is up Madam mayor if you would like him to continue that's up to you go ahead you can do bring back on street parking focus on Public Safety downtown and put the bike Lanes on Center Street as Headway recommended thank you for your time thank you so much okay just one second I'm going to interject and do a disclosure right now can you just wait till after public I think it's best to do it in concert in proximity to the because it's about the commenter so um I'm gonna do it um right now I actually had this prepared for item D1 so you can hear it I know but usually we go through the public comment and then we do disclosures so can we just okay do that thank you so much that's your Madam clerk go ahead thank you Madame mayor we do have one participant via Zoom Dana Kilroy good morning Madam mayor and Council okay I'm not sure if you can hear me but I'm gonna try my name is Dana Kilroy I'm a co-owner of Fior Partners which is a public relations and public affairs business in downtown Reno we represent 50 South Virginia Which is also known as the old U.S post Office and um my partner my business partner and I participated in some of the public sessions with the folks at Gail I'm not sure if I even am saying it right the the Dutch company and we were both very impressed with the forward and Creative Solutions that they have come up with to help Revitalize our downtown as someone who works downtown and I'm down there virtually every day I find it kind of depressing and I I have lived in Reno for 25 years and I think we need to embrace um some ideas that perhaps come from outside the casino and the pawn shop businesses that dominate downtown that's it for my comment thanks for listening all right thanks all right Madame with that we have no additional public comment I would like to State for the record that we received three comments which were directly associated with agenda item prior to 4 P.M yesterday April 11th two letters in opposition and one letter of concern those have been distributed to the Reno city council and again just for the record we are having technical issues and cannot play voicemails today but the transcription of that voicemail as well has been distributed to the Reno city council okay fantastic thanks so much okay I'm going to send it to you councilman breakfast go ahead yeah I'll make a disclosure I'm actually had this disclosure drafted for another item I'll read it too but um Mr Buzz it's pertains to Mr Busby who I didn't you know who just spoke on this other item so Madame mayor fellow city council members and Madam clerk in the interests of full transparency on item uh D4 54. um I am disclosing that I'm a former client of Mr Luke Busby the attorney representing Palace I guess on this matter Palace pawn shop or properties on this matter I've sought guidance from the city attorney's office I retained Mr Busby to handle legal matter related to my candidacy for public awesome office in 2022 that matter is concluded I paid Mr Busby for his Services based on a standard and customary rate he is currently not performing any legal services for me and I do not expect to retain him in the foreseeable future in short I'm a former client not a current or prospective client as a result I've been advised that I do not have a substantial and continuing business relationship with Mr Bussey Busby nor a commitment in a private capacity to the interest of Mr Busby in consultation with the city attorney's office I do not believe that the independence of a judgment of a reasonable verse in my situation would be materially affected by the fact that I'm a formal client of Mr Busby's I will be voting on this item today and Madam clerk please accepts this disclosure the lodge it on the record for this meeting pertaining to this item okay thank you I appreciate that and I just like I want to point out Reno is really small I don't think Mr Busby have you ever been to council I don't remember ever seeing you like how many years jeez five years five years okay this is how small Reno is you're you're up here commenting on an item she obviously has hired you at some point had hired me or how okay how how long ago was that uh I think that case concluded both um uh at the Supreme Court we prevailed um shortly after the election so when was that correctly now after the election that would have been there was an appeal after the fact that it took a while to get results so it may have been January so in the last year within the last year so what I'm curious I'm just curious what how long do you have to have sort of a cooling off period I remember I disclosed for 10 years of some of my consultants for 10 years I disclosed so how long do you have like we should as a body not or how long do you have and then you disclose and then you don't have to disclose you know some some of the law requires a year cooling off period but that's typically when you have a business relationship that is related to the cities or your position in the city your position with the city so you know if there's an ongoing relationship with an individual that could create the appearance of impropriety then you should be disclosing but I'm thinking a year should be about a year time limit yeah okay and uh mayor if you need if you can give me just a second I can actually look up when that case concluded finally oh no I just you mentioned it was at a certain time so I was just trying to find out from our attorneys when what is the time period in which we should disclose I like I said I know some of us have disclosed for years I did it for 10 years and this is within the last year so I just didn't know and um just for the record that matter was dismissed by the Supreme Court via stipulation in September of 2022. okay all right thank you I appreciate it Reno is just very small um go ahead go ahead uh vice mayor go ahead well I I what your question to the City attorney and perhaps this is through you to the City attorney raised an issue for me because as I understand it uh our the gentlewoman from Ward one was making the disclosure based on some public comment or Mr Busby coming forward but it was also lodged on one of the agenda items I think what was the agenda item D4 I thought it was yeah for the record John shipment for the city attorney's office so there was the the disclosure was actually prepared for item D1 um because Mr Busby represents uh Mr Conrad in that litigation um and then well why wasn't that disclosure made in the attorney-client privilege meetings in which Miss Breck has participated in because I understood that the disclosure would also have to be made in those conversations but I don't believe Miss breakfast made that same disclosure as it relates to item D1 so is there some different rule that we need to be aware of as it relates to disclosures or Miss breckets I mean I again I I don't know if you're talking about D1 today um has not been heard someone is and is D1 is an item in which Miss breakfast's legal counsel is suing the city on behalf of another client and so miss breckis just read a disclosure but that same disclosure was not made in our attorney quiet privilege meetings as I recall so I'm trying to get a sense from so I study attorney's office yeah as to what disclosures have to be read and when let me address it this way I cannot and I'm not at Liberty to talk about what happened in an attorney-client privileged uh meeting I can say that Mr Busby is currently not council member breckis's attorney so there is no from an NRS chapter 281 standpoint and any question about uh or a perceived or alleged conflict of interest there is no conflict of interest there and so that disclosure was prepared when um it was requested when that item was put on the agenda and she requested that last night and we got that prepped for and then today with this item she was not aware that Mr Busby was going to be here for this item representing a client and so that prompted the additional disclosure so I hopefully that if if you want to talk about specifications addresses no I think that addresses the question I've asked I think it's something that we'll perhaps we need some additional opportunities to understand the disclosure requirements because as Madam mayor said she's been disclosing something which I don't believe she had to disclose for 10 years Miss breckis has made previous disclosures related to her husband's prior employment which she had not been making for some period of 10 years but only recently was making them and now there was this disclosure today on item D1 and so there seems to be some confusion among the members about when disclosures must be made and how they're made and so that's why I was trying to address it to you through you Mr hall or Mr Shipman because it seemed inconsistent and so I wanted Clarity on the record sure fair question and we we can certainly follow up with individual members about specific cases yeah thank you thank you vice mayor I appreciate that thank you so much I appreciate it because it's been very unclear for a very long time and so how does it apply to one and not to another and that just kind of raised my level of interest um because it seems like it hasn't been Fair um of who discloses when why um and all of that this to me like at this just I had no idea who Mr Busby even was no idea so um then I thought well wait a minute I I have been disclosing for that long and so I think the rules all have to be the same for everyone or maybe we go and get an opinion from um ethics or uh what is it which right um so get a an opinion when uh you disclose and how long that is so that there is no confusion as to uh you know what what that looks like and Reno is small I love how everyone's like oh you know this person has a relationship and this person has a relationship it's really interesting especially if we were born and raised here um we all went to school together or we know someone or our families know someone we're just a very small community um and that doesn't mean that you're corrupt or have uh relationships that are inappropriate or that they shouldn't be um I just think it's ironic you're up here representing another client I've never seen you here before that I can remember and then councilman breakfast makes a disclosure so this is my point like we it's just a small community so out of clarity um or otherwise everyone says oh you know those politicians they're corrupt uh and on and on and on and so I would just like to have some clarity so next time um it is transparent so that would be great thank you okay moving on okay the good stuff the good stuff let's go to the good stuff thank you for being so patient and uh the floor is yours great good afternoon there this is your first presentation yes ah you're gonna be great thank you I'm excited to be here I love it um for the record I'm Amy Pennington special projects and Outreach coordinator for public works and I'm very excited because I get to be here to present the downtown Virginia Street Place making study and we all embarked on this process together almost over a year ago now and when I say all of us I mean the community the council Gail all of us and our partners our International acclaimed Partners Gail they're actually online with us today Sophie and Ramsay and many of you have all gotten to know them a bit throughout this process so happy to have them here in support of this item this has been a public engagement process it has been a research process and it's been extensive there have been over 3 000 residents that have taken part of surveys along the way there have been hundreds of people that participated in public engagement sessions there were dozens of stakeholder groups that were present at four stakeholder meetings and to say that this is one person's vision for the city is just it's just not true this is the vision of our community coming together and um yeah and so what we're doing here today is I'm here to present the findings of the study and to ask your acceptance of the report and your acceptance of the phase implementation plan that's being put forward by Gail and okay wait wait yes sorry I don't I don't want to stop you but we all have to ask what is the correct way to say this I hear a gal I hear Gail I hear what is Gil Gil um it is Dutch so um give it your best shot Gil is Gil Gil is how I have been saying it and how I hear it all right um don't don't ask someone who speaks Dutch and then quiz me um and so one of the things that actually Sophie and Ramsey asked me or told me about when we were just discussing um the phase that we're at in this study is that because of the support of the council because of the steps you've already taken to be approving arpa funding that goes toward this because of the lean in of our community members and the businesses and the residents that are on board we are we have so much more momentum going into this than most cities do at this point and we actually have like dominoes that are set up ready to fall and be able to create forward momentum to see changes start to happen on the street very very soon so I just wanted to share that because I want to thank you for all of your support in this process um so what is placemaking because again Place making is designing a place with the people who use it in mind and it's creating a place where people can live work and play and what this placemaking study is is it's an activation plan it's a way to think about how to get people back into downtown how to make Virginia Street a vibrant place where people want to spend their time and um as Gil began this process a year ago some of the things that they discovered about Virginia Street through their research was that it is suffering from inactivity between events there isn't a lot that draws people into the space and there's seventy percent of inactive facades there's underutilized spaces along the street there isn't shade there isn't a place to sit there aren't nice places to just enjoy your time and as you pop in and out of different businesses so as they gather that information the next thing that they did in their process was actually go to the community to create a unified Vision that we could move forward in together so this is the vision that our community inspired that they came up with Community inspired Virginia Street is the backbone of the downtown neighborhood it connects the city's assets is a platform creativity and is a safe and inviting place to walk or spend time for arena whites and visitors alike this is something that our city wants to lean into and see and the Gill team gave us several Community Driven objectives as well as five Place making strategies to turn our downtown into a place that activates that attracts and engages people of the future and people who are currently there um and as you can see from this map the scope of the project is from the University in the North 9th Street down to Liberty in the South where the Virginia Street joins to the Midtown District so um in phase one they Gail came up with four objectives that the city wants the residents of the city want to see the first is 18 7 activation and programming this describes activation that happens every day of the week a platform for creativity innovation bringing Reno's culture to downtown C is enhanced connectivity and climate this is talking about that experience on the street actually having shade and having a place that you can whether it's walking biking driving a place that is connected and then Local Economic Development everyone wants to see our businesses thrive in the second phase of the project they came up with strategic moves to help achieve these outcomes and like I said some of the challenges that they had they had seen prior now they're coming up with solutions to help address those challenges one thing that we heard again and again through people through the residence is that people want to see Virginia Street be a place that they can come to be a place that's a destination not just a place that they Breeze through and go quickly so the Strategic moves and I'm going to be getting more into each of these are number one celebrating character areas number two elevating the Baseline number three connecting the dots number four activating the underutilized and number five activating the edges so I do want to explain a little bit about how Gale prepared their recommendations because they have provided us with so much depth in the report this is just a very high level overview they provided the Strategic moves and then they provide they provided in-depth analysis of how each of those moves can be applied in our city and then they came up with specific concept designs and strategies to help us Implement them so um this is going to be rather high level but the report has even more information for those who are interested so number one the Strategic move celebrating the character areas has to do with identifying the different regions of the street and Catering our strategies to the people and the things that are present in those areas upper area has the University students UNR it's their connection into downtown the middle area is our entertainment core and has a growing residential population and other small businesses the lower area is our Civic core has our government buildings cultural buildings with museums and then the river and other businesses as well as well as cultural centers we have the Pioneer Center there as well so lots of Lots elevating the Baseline and this speaks to a lot of different ways that you can enhance the experience on the street level one of the things that I wanted to show today was the right-of-way um the right-of-way so in this picture you can actually see some trees along the side of the road you can see some benches you can see pedestrians walking and then in the right-of-way you can see bike Lanes parking and two lanes of traffic this is a picture of the lower portion of Virginia Street specifically and one of the things that we constantly heard from people is that people desire multiple modes of transportation on Virginia Street and they want to see two-way vehicle traffic and they want to see bike lanes that go in the direction of traffic that are buffered with a buffered distance from the vehicles so in some areas like this the southern area that would be able to do we would be able to do that with parking and then the other areas of the street have slightly different layouts so this would be somewhat of what the middle section of Virginia Street would look like and this would be more similar to the northern section where we also have the bike Lanes in conjunction with the freeway entrances and exits um but like I said we want to people want to see two lanes of vehicle traffic two lanes of bike traffic and room for pedestrians as well one thing I did want to point out is that Gail took into account the special events that people in Reno have come to love and all of the street designs that they proposed do not impact special events continuing the way that they currently do so this is a picture of what a special event would look like that is based off of the current schematics that are used the third strategic move is connecting the dots and this has to do with making sure that things are actually moving in a way that is conducive to the best experience on the street whether we're talking about someone walking someone using multiple modes of transportation or someone driving so there are certain intersections that would be evaluated and different tools apply to make those intersections as move the best way they possibly can and some of the here are some tools that could be used and applied at different places as the design of the street continues to be developed um there are opportunities to neck down intersections to reduce the distance of a walk across an intersection for a pedestrian as well as changing turning radiuses improving signal timing all of these things can be used in conjunction with each other to improve the experience on the street the fourth strategic move is to activate the underutilized so on this map right here you can see some areas that are highlighted in red these are spaces that Gail has identified as either privately owned or publicly owned spaces that are underutilized most of them have an openness to them whether it's a plaza or some other property and right now they're not being used to their fullest potential so um they came there's more identified on here than they've created specific concepts for but I wanted to share a few Concepts that they have come up with and designed for um the activation of some of these spaces this is Locomotion Plaza which is right at 3rd Street in Virginia near the arch and as you can see here in this this is a lovely picture of lots of activation happening this is a beautifully painted space but it lacks certain things that help activate like shade and lighting and um this basically there could be some basic improvements that allow activation to happen in a more feasible way we actually are already working with the DRP and they have a plan to be activating this space and so we are excited that just with some structural changes that can be much more successful foreign this is a picture of what we are calling the road Placita it is a property owned by the row on 4th Street and it's adjacent to the event center um basically right now it's it's an open open lot and it could be transformed into a small Plaza that has wayfinding benches trees for shade be a nice meeting place for people as they're on their way to an event something like that and this is just a it's a concept and it could look like a variety of different things but the idea is that the space is being activated and it's becoming a place where people can congregate this is a picture of bleed Plaza or City Plaza and these are some different recommendations that Gail has put forward to increase shade to put a kiosk that might be a cafe or a tourist station to have some seating so people can watch the activity to potentially someday have a splash pad and there's all sorts of opportunities that could happen there but basically providing shade and providing seating is very important the fifth strategic move is activating the edges one of the things and I believe I may mention this is Guild determined that there are 70 of the edges along that Virginia Street walk that are not currently activated these could be empty lots it could be construction it could be walls with no windows alongside establishments and so what are the things we can do to actually activate that edge because the reality is most of our places in downtown are not a far distance from each other but the walk can feel very far if there's no activation along the street this is one concept that is at the Circus Circus parking garage is actually what this picture depicts and um that's up a little bit further north between 6th and 7th Street on Virginia and this is their parking garage where you would we would propose having that first wall removed and turning some of the parking spots on that first area into micro retail and this is something that has been piloted in other cities with a lot of success and so we were excited to propose this idea here in Reno um there are different ways that the city could um be a partner in something like this either with our the tenant Improvement program that was passed with arpa or the facade Improvement um or potentially partnering in some other way and this is a picture of um this is being depicted at the courthouse parking lot and it it could really be used in any space that is an underutilized edge and it's the idea of putting up different pop-up micro retail spots that would basically activate an edge that otherwise is just an empty empty not I mean it's a parking lot full of cars but not an activated space so creating that edge that's active and then right behind that you can maybe still have whether it's your parking lot or maybe there's construction happening different things but that edge is activated so now I want to talk about the phase implementation plan those are some of the concepts that were put forward and I actually do want to emphasize that these are Concepts they haven't been fully fleshed out and designed um but they are ideas that are supported by lots of research and place making so in their process Gail came up with three phases of implementation this is important for building momentum and it's important for achieving um success in these things actually coming to life the first phase involves Street furnishings along the entire stretch of Virginia Street involving benches where benches are possible improving of shade where that's possible things like that it involves trying to Pilot the facade Improvement and activation program of different locations potentially including the parking garage no that's my things are in the wrong order sorry the parking garage Locomotion Plaza a design for that and the Rope Placita so I'm gonna Locomotion for a little memory of back to what that one was the Placita so that'd be phase one phase two would focus on streetscape improvements across the site again this would be this phase is actually more focused on the right-of-way and so designing of the right-of-way implementing some of the recommendations of that design in the lower area and then it would also have the initiation of belief Plaza so the beginning of the design of our Plaza and um perhaps having some Pilots start in that space there's blue Plaza and then the third phase of the prioritization plan would involve additional Street improvements up in the upper area um around the freeway space and the universe heading up into the university and then seeing how things maybe went up north of the Circus Circus parking garage and seeing how we could duplicate those things down at the court and then um additional work on belief Plaza including pilot projects so the motion that I encourage today would be to accept the study and to adopt the phase implementation plan I'm available for any questions all right I think you did phenomenal thank you you seemed comfortable you smiled the whole time well I'm happy about this really enjoyed yourself I know but you know it's really hard because you just it can be um sort of just scary and uncertain your first time you would never know it you just seem super super comfortable thank you so I am very proud and I'm sure you have a proud mama over there in Gary right and I thought you just came off fantastic um okay we're gonna bring it to the body I just wanted to just to start off with I think it is phenomenal it is fantastic this is something that we have wanted to see um for over a decade now I could go into like nine million reasons why downtown has truly struggled um it's time to go people want a great downtown and I always say cities are um downtowns or like cities inside cities they're very complex there's a lot more going on and especially Reno because we have the component of gaming which most cities do not but we also have a lot of potential uh downtown a lot and I think it's going to change dramatically whenever you see Hera's opening up and then junkie is coming downtown that is going to be a game changer uh you know we saw that in Midtown you start to see those small businesses but let me tell you why small businesses have not come downtown and people like Scott dunseith who have taken incredible amount of risk in downtown because they truly believed in it they are really the pioneers and said I knew that there there was a lot of opportunity here but they also had to take tremendous amount of risk and what that risk comes a high price tag and most businesses could not afford it I could never afford it and I've looked several times just thinking gosh maybe I could just hold on there is no way it is so so challenging so this is fantastic I would say this I love all of that I love it love it love it the one place where I do have heartburn and and I think we need to get the cycle track back on track I have said this I still don't see something compelling enough to me not to have it on Center Street and then do all the other place making down Virginia I have come to Eric with 10 000 ideas I just came to Doug with a whole bunch of really cool signage that is just it's it's amazing because it's like old street signs with neon and they have other meanings and they're very positive and colorful but um but there's so much that we can be doing so uh I really and also the cycle track to me and I've said this you guys know this I've said this out loud how I support the cycle track um I like that it's on University I think we got to continue to keep by bicycling safe especially for our University students and then maybe you know I think we look at other car our options for parking downtown like we've talked about there's a lot of loading zones and other areas that have been marked that I don't think that need to be marked I mean I see it all the time right so I do think there's other options for parking but we've looked at this cycle track for far too long I wanted to get going on it that's just me how I feel about it it's 30 engineered I haven't seen anything compelling enough to me that we shouldn't do it and I think just this is just me versus Virginia Street um you know I love Virginia Street but I also think there's a way to sort of Encompass it all together but I would like to see more restaurants on um you know outside and US utilizing local motion Plaza we have some great outdoor space but we also have to get those businesses down there activated I will tell you the vacancies that we have down there and it's it's disheartening some of the landlords want uh higher rents in downtown where it's completely vacant than they do in Midtown where they have a ton of traffic and people want to be in Midtown um and quite honestly a lot of them will hold it hold it hostage and it's it's really concerning but we have a tremendous opportunity let's go let's go let's go we've been saying this for far too long and by the way visitors it needs to be safe downtown clean downtown DRP is doing a really good job um proud of all the work that's happening but also where's the cycling team want to make sure RPD is down there on foot and on you know cycling so there's a constant presence people need to feel safe far too long people don't want to go downtown I'm sorry they don't and that's um really just you know disheartening because we've all wanted to see it Thrive for so long so let's just go it's time to move on anyway thanks thank you I'm beating a dead horse Okay councilwoman doors sure um well I have a lot to say so I'm going to try to prioritize because I I probably could say stuff about everything you've said um first of all good job and I'm glad we're bringing this in for landing um I'm going to start with trees because shade here is throughout and you keep talking about elevating the Baseline and you keep showing trees so here's the challenge and I recently had a great visit with Carrie Koski public works right outside City Hall where we are planning to cut down the trees uh that are right on the south side of city hall because it has been said we have a basement and um there was a leakage problem at one time hasn't been irrigated for a long time the trees are still living um the trees get water from Street washing window washing rain and they're living that's because they're well established and so they can live on this incidental moisture I propose to carry that the city has to lead the way if we have a problem with basements and narrow streets so does everybody else on Virginia Street they are going to say the same thing to us no no if we remake the street there's no room you know for the tree or the proper planting of the tree which is the silver cell which will deliver enough dirt to keep the roots from rising on the sidewalk and we'll keep irrigation confined into the right area and we'll provide uncompacted soil so my suggestion if we really want to get the shade obviously there's different ways you can have coverage you can have awnings but in every picture what they show is not coverings and awnings it's trees why because it does multi-functions it doesn't just provide shade it reduces the heat people are drawn to trees more than awnings okay it's cooler under trees that's a thin awning just provides so much shade a tree does better it's about 10 degrees cooler so I would like to see as if we're really saying this this is one of those things where the devil's in the details all the words sound great we want to do it all but we we really have to say what does that mean to have shade and be prepared and I personally think the city should do the hard thing and figure it out on First Street if we have the same challenge that everyone else has if if we can figure it out they can too but we should be leading the way right now so that's my opinion and I will be meeting with the experts with the operations and with the tree people to say what does that mean what's it going to take another double in the details so at one point we had more benches and benches were removed or rocks were put in place to prevent random people from sitting down and when you prevent people with no homes from sitting down you prevent everyone from sitting down so on one hand we're saying more benches and places to sit and the other hand we have this unintended consequence that we have to be prepared again it's a double in the details how are you going to get quote the right people sitting down shopping with money in their pocket versus people have no homes that might like to like rest there or even sleep there okay so we have to figure out this this is my thought I want to see more benches I want to see more bathrooms people say oh my gosh it'll bring the wrong element who's cleaning these bathrooms and so on but if you want people people have to go right um lastly in this round I just want to mention history I really saw nothing in the plan about celebrating our history on Virginia Street most of Virginia Street has some historic element to it even if it's a closed whatever I want to make sure that while we're renovating reimagining that we recognize at every block the historical buildings that are there and that we memorialize those with the the plaques so that this is an interesting place to walk around we still have some history left let's celebrate it and I'll come back other rounds sorry I'm gonna cut you out but I love your comments about history okay because you bet you've got the Levi plaque down there and the other really cool plaques I think that's fantastic we definitely should do that okay councilwoman neighbor go ahead it's all you so I have some questions um overall I think this is a great idea we absolutely need to do stuff downtown but I have concerns about the the bike Lanes on Virginia Street also you know I don't understand why we can't do it on Center Street um so looking through the staff report I saw that a statement in here about having clear bike Lanes am I understanding correctly that we'll have a bike lane a bus lane and a Car Lane all kind of trying to squeeze into one spot on Virginia Street and parking um that is dependent on the area of the street we're talking about up north on Virginia Street there are currently bus lanes on the road and so that would be the area where there would still be bus lanes the center portion of Virginia Street is the most constricted with wise and so it would just be um bike lanes and travel lanes for cars as well as potentially re-looking at a lot of those loading zones and seeing if they can be converted into things that are more useful for our community maybe drop pick up and drop-off spots maybe parking spots those loading zones can be evaluated and then the southern part of the street there is room for parking on the street as well as bike lanes and travel Lanes but there would not be dedicated bus lanes okay so there's potentially areas where there would not be parking not no areas that don't currently have parking okay so we're not we don't have any plans to remove parking okay because that's an area of concern for me especially considering that there's 70 percent of air uh what was it 70 of edges that are not currently active um definitely if there's not parking that's going to cause a problem right there people need to be able to park to access retail shopping restaurants things like that so we need to have places where people can park so that they can access these businesses so a lot of this with the bike lane um and also taking out turning Lanes making traffic more congested there that sounds like it's going to make it more difficult for people to go down there and access these businesses that we want to come down and kind of revitalize this area so I'm very concerned about adding these bike Lanes in and taking out the turn pockets are we you know is there a way that we can go back to putting the bike Lanes on Center Street um so what we're presenting here today doesn't doesn't actually have anything to do with bike Lanes being on Center Street or not this is just a recommendation for Virginia Street when Gail was working with the community what we heard was that people want to see multiple modes of transportation on Virginia Street so they can access the businesses and do all these things we have lots of University students who don't use Vehicles we have lots of residents who are moving into downtown we have a ton of residential unit residential units that are about to come online and those people would likely not use a car to travel a block or two to go somewhere so making Virginia Street more of a destination where people can use multiple modes of transportation on the street is actually something that can help businesses not hurt them okay so when you say you have feedback what kind of feedback did you get from motorists not bicyclists or pedestrians um the feedback we got for this study was General to the community we actually weren't asking people necessarily to identify if they were a vehicle user or a micro Mobility user okay okay councilman Taylor thank you madamer thank you Amy fantastic job I am so very excited about this and um I think I'll go back to one of the comments that was made earlier this isn't just about Ward 5 or downtown this is about Reno and the community and one of the things I just want to say is um in my in my briefing I had concerns about safety I had concerns about um police down there I had concerns about the building conditions I had concerns about enforcement and I think that those are one of the dominoes right this is a domino that we have for Activation and right now we have all of the tools in place for it we have the plan we have the people and we have the money what an opportunity let's not miss it the other thing that we're going to have to do is work with code RPD and the DRP so those are very important things to me one of the things I also was asking about is if we could apply some of these techniques to the construction the under the ongoing construction downtown because that's a big part of what we see to make it a little bit more friendlier I also um you know I was a little disappointed I see the media in the room today and I'm just gonna say the rgj article that came out was super disappointing we have an opportunity here in our community to make a very big positive difference and I didn't see one interview about the inner about um talking to the small businesses that are down there the people that we just saw the University students the people that lived down there it was very one-sided so if I could just say let's get excited about this let's get people downtown let's Embrace this with everything that we have as a council and we're gonna get there we have phasing I I could not be happier with what I see and the team that we have so thank you very much and it was 3 000 people 2 700 people who participated in our initial survey and then hundreds that participated in the ones that followed any one of those any one of those constituents could have probably given a different point of view than what our local paper printed so I would just say shame on the rgj and thank you for bringing this to us thank you okay Martinez yeah thank you so much Madame mayor hey Amy thank you so much for the presentation great job I'm putting all of that together and uh thank you Gail for um doing the study and working with our constituents to make sure that um all of this is in place I think some of the things that I want to mention are just echoing what my colleagues have said already so I like what you mentioned about how even though it is a short distance when there's a lot of player closed up walls or unopened businesses along the street and makes it seem like a long for a farther distance that you're traveling to get from one side to the other even though it isn't that huge of a distance so I appreciate your acknowledgment of that I will also say that the uh the concerns about safety and bringing families and more events downtown is definitely something that I can see happening with some of the improvements in the phase out that are in this plan being newer on the council I have just come become aware of some of the Center Street stuff so I don't know if you or anyone else on the staff can address what happened there I have been getting emails from constituents about that I know you you mentioned that the center street bike path isn't necessarily what we're discussing today but given the fact that we are adding those back Lanes on Virginia Street I thought it might be prudent for us to address some of those concerns that we've been hearing from our constituents yeah uh Kerry koskey can provide an answer thank you for the question Carrie Koski your director of Public Works city engineer so um I'd gladly give you a little bit of brief um uh information about the Center Street cycle track with all due respect I want to uh address what the mayor had said as well so some of the current and you all may have remember this um I've had these concerns um before and I continue to have the concerns um on with this Inner Street cycle track that came to us several years ago um we push the pause button because I had safety concerns and basically when I say safety concerns what I mean is when you put two directional cycle track on a one-way Street you have to feel safe as a cyclist while you're trying to get onto that street or off of that street one of the things that we found in the pilot project was that it is very difficult for a driver when you are conditioned to go One Direction if somebody is coming a different direction on that street and it's it's not a signalized intersection say it's just a just a an open intersection people get confused about safety you know who has the right of way and to me that is a major concern so you've got a Contra flow running on a one-way Street how does that interact with your side streets the other big concern I have is at the at the freeway we have a lot of vehicles at the freeway we have an on-ramp on the University way on the freeway at the on University way and um I-80 that to me is is a potential for a disaster when you're putting cyclists through that intersection now you're going to say well you've got you've got large intersections at Virginia Street yes you do but you don't have you don't have a freeway on-ramp um we have a lot of crashes in that particular area um um parking businesses are going to lose 80 parking spots to me in Midtown that is a huge deal that is a huge huge issue for our businesses it's kind of contradictory of what we're talking about um loading zones we talked about losing the loading zones for the Pioneer Center uh what do we do there the Reno Ballroom how do we continue with our our special events you know that's that is a concern of mine um and then also you know the elimination of of one of the Lanes on a major couplet so we've got a one-way couplet into the Reno that brings people in into downtown off of the freeway and then you've got one that goes out out right so you you're going to reduce one of those Lanes on University so those were the major items that I have uh concerns councilman and I know you weren't here before but I just thought that maybe it would be good to highlight that those were the concerns yeah thank you so much I appreciate you sharing that information yeah and and thank you I so appreciate it because that is probably the most in-depth answer that we've heard so that's safety I I worry a lot about the loading zones for the Pioneer because they already bring in those big buses yes and then 80 80 parking spaces are we talking down there like in Midtown businesses are right there from Cheney to Fifth Street yes yes that's small area okay all right I really appreciate that okay thank you so much hold on sorry councilwoman uh Ruckus I I promise councilman Reese a turn and then I will get to you okay go ahead councilman Reese or vice mayor thank you so much uh first I want to sort of start at the beginning I think for me the discussion starts with the fact that we retain this internationally renowned consultant we engaged in this massive amount of Outreach which now gives us a road map forward to I think Revitalize and activate downtown so ultimately um I find it odd that some commentaries in the public uh have said hey we love everything you did the engagement was awesome the results are awesome but we don't like this part about it I I find that to be odd I ultimately believe we should trust the results and let our staff set about to execute so that's kind of my first overall arching thing I appreciate Miss koski's thoughts about Center Street um I have kind of mixed opinion on it having now sat through the Dutch cycling Embassy workshops and bent over at RTC I know that you know Center Street I mean all the things about cycling and cars being in the same space are very complicated the bottom line is Center Street seems too high speed as does Sierra Street these are like high-speed Transit corridors and we're trying to move people North and South um and and I think that Center and University don't have a lot of commercial Frontage so I'm not sure that those really are the place where that's the best for a cycle track I mean I'm open to the idea that someone would convince me that it is but I haven't seen that yet and and ultimately um I think that's something that we've got to focus on obviously today the Dell report is about Virginia Street and I it's not that I think they can be handled in a vacuum I think we've got to make some choices based on what the study represents and say we're going to go and execute on that for the activation piece again I'm open to understanding more about what would be done but based on Miss koski's advice and and my thoughts about the high-speed nature of those streets I just don't think that those two streets represent the best area I think perhaps what we should be doing is putting bikes on Virginia Evans Lake and 5th uh you know more biking opportunities for people I also would it's not sure I understood that my colleague from Ward 4 who talks about you know what we asked that driving uh public right you cannot design a walkable Space by worrying about what cars want right if what we're trying to do is create a walkable space then you can't have cars zooming by at high speed and creating Transit issues in conflict with them so I think those are kind of my thoughts the last thing I'll say before my time expires is you know and maybe this piggybacks off something my colleague councilmember Taylor said about the Rena Gazette journals article I sort of take it for what it's worth I mean I think it's informational but even today we had one public commenter who came up and said this study is basically up front for the casinos and what they want it's good well first of all that's not true that commentary doesn't know he's talking about but second the next very next commenter said this study is awesome and Gail is helping us to get away from being beholden to the casinos like it cannot be both of those things right and so I guess my point to the public is we've got to really think critically we've engaged this great organization to do a great study let us go out and execute on it no one has made any claims that the row is implementing your decisions they haven't they've never spoken to me about it I understand they connect the dots weirdly to their former lawyer's letter and think that that is somehow means what we're doing is that way it's not we have an incredible organization who has gone out and done the community engagement we've asked them to do that's what we're interested in has nothing to do with the casinos although the casinos are a stakeholder and have an important role to play no one's beholden to them so I just don't I don't understand why people take the same study and one person says it's beholding the casinos in the united said this is how we break away from the casino just cannot be both of those things so it's interesting to see and I'm interested in my colleagues take on it as well because ultimately I think it's a balancing act and we've got to get going and engage some of these downtown spaces thank you madam mayor all right thank you councilwoman Ruckus and and nice presentation nice delivery um you know I did not support going off on the skill study um you know they're an Urban Design firm okay great they brought in some concepts are they Concepts that we haven't seen before in terms of the work that was done when the retract project was done our downtown plan maybe with a little bit more of a spin but I don't see a whole lot of progress here but it's something um however it confirms my supposition early that the gal study just looking at Virginia Street is problematic and I can send continue to do that with all the questions about the other two streets the Center Street and so on and I I respect Miss Koski a lot but I think she's off I think she's often saying well I have concerns about having these two couplets you know and one way and it's and and I've made this point before is the the starting point in my view for discussion about the public right-of-ways downtown is you can't have it both ways you can't have high volume one-way couplets freeway access and a pedestrian downtown environment they do not work they're mutually exclusive so she is going on The View that these streets will continue to be the corridors onto the freeway in my world they are not and I've always lived in Old neighborhoods and when you live in an old neighborhood and I don't know who here lives in a very old neighborhood getting to the freeway is a frustrating experience because cities lock down those access points you have to circumvent you have to go around it's not easy so in my world view the cycle track was taking us to a point where Center Street would not be the option for all that freeway traffic and I live in the old Southwest I represent the old Southwest I never take Center Street Stone Avenue is the preferred route and that's why I will segue and say that the ward one nav is so concerned about the Keystone Avenue Bridge condition and so many are but you know so I think that on a discussion on downtown you can't have Virginia Street separate and I don't see it but I want to move into the what the implementation recommendations are because I think we can maybe get some ground there for me the ground is um you know we can accept a report in some way but I would encourage the council to hold tightly on the next points in not see any improvements or making Investments on Virginia Street until we answer the couplets that downtown will not succeed in my view and no and I'm not going to let you know I'd like to answer I'd like to respond to that yes please I disagree with you yeah um as your city engineer yeah um for every bike plan you need a car plan our couplets are our car plan yeah and I'm I'm saying let's have the question about or our car plan and I'm saying let's let's question we do need a place for our vehicles to go I mean it's we are not all bicycles and Mike Mike remotes we're not there yet in probably 30 years we probably will be but we're not there yet so we have to have a car plan and the car plan to me is what's the ADT on Center on on Sierra I'm not going to get into a distribution about adts if it's ten thousand for me a downtown you know on your spine of 10 000 should be two thousand twenty five hundred in Midtown we have slow speeds we have activated businesses right we've got people wanting to go to Midtown and why do they want to go to Midtown because the traffic is going slower there's there's space for people to be now we have this ability to bring our our um people off of the 4808 off of the freeways into our city the thing too it shouldn't be one or the other like I think um you know when we talk about cycle tracks right it's about the network you and I talked about that it's all about the network we can talk about that because we had a long discussion and I think once you explained it to me it really made a lot of sense can you kind of explain so so in order for us to be successful we have got to start working on our Network plan how do we build a network in our downtown yeah and to me our Truckee river is our main artery and we want all of our we want our Network to connect to our Truckee River because we we know how important that is and we're going to start working on the accessibility around our Truckee River and and from Reno to Sparks to uh Verdi but it's all about the connectivity it's not just about one street and that's the way we've been looking at this for years is just like one street at a time right working with Dale on the RTC and we went we've got to concentrate on the network and and I'm kind of getting derailed here nobody that is that is part of the whole um micro Mobility is because people don't want to just ride on one street right they want to be able to get around and we and I am passionate about that I ride bike I but I'm not going to put myself in Jeopardy if it's not at if there aren't lower volumes and lower speeds that's exactly right yes yeah and Madame mayor that makes a lot of sense to me hold on before you go let me just ask anyone else go ahead um councilman Ebert gonna start with you I do want to Circle back to the traffic or the parking and the cars um you know thinking about the whole city and not just a specific Ward I know for myself I would love to go down with these new places set up but coming from Ward four I'm not going to ride a bicycle or a scooter I'm going to be driving a car and I'm going to be looking for a parking space um especially if it's date night with my husband or if I'm going to be going down yeah my bicycle right or let's you know get on our scooters and go um if I'm going to be shopping right I'm not going to do my Christmas shopping and then put my bags on my bicycle basket and ride back to Ward four that's not to say that I'm opposed to bike Lanes a gentleman that came this morning and gave public comment yes requesting a bike lane on Virginia Street we need that I see those people walking and bicycling when I drive in for Council meetings drive down into Reno I'm scared for those people we've had pedestrians hit on Military Road because we don't have bike Lanes yeah several exactly since I've been uh on the council and I know that we're working to get that amended and get those bike Lanes in but it is a real consideration we need to think of because I do want these places activated I do want that 70 edges that are vacant to go down we should have it zero because every time we have a vacant space that's a lost opportunity for revenue for culture for just Community right so um again thinking of the whole city not just one little piece the downtown we do need to consider the entire city of Reno and considering people that are coming from other areas we do need to be considerate of traffic cars parking and that is my hesitation with putting in these bike Lanes um in this specific area potentially impacting uh parking and taking away turn lanes and making it more difficult because all avoid areas where there's traffic sure I don't go there I'll go another route I'll go shopping where I can park because it's already a hassle so that's my only hesitation and that's why I can say I love everything about this but that's my hesitation is being able to access these businesses that I want to see Thrive so that's my recommendation one other mention that our parking garages are on our couplets we don't have access to our parking garages on Virgin street right we have them on our couplets University and Center Street right thank you and you've made a point because this was the first time that I really heard about why Center Street we had a very brief conversation but researching it to your point you they said it was incredibly dangerous to do to bike against the traffic yes so um that is engineering 101 right here okay go ahead councilman yep stay up there Carrie maybe um I just want to uh take take a moment on the bikes because I do have a thought about this I I participated extensively in the Midtown and we debated over and over bikes in Virginia bikes not uh the challenge with parking yeah the compromise was this and people have written in acknowledging what it was we said we're gonna keep Virginia largely pedestrian in car yes and we're going to put the bikes on the next street so that down there that's Center and on the other side it's Haskell or forest and we were going to have them both those streets go one way Center to University goes north the other one comes One Way South yeah so we said let's divide it and let's at least have a big bike through way that is just one block off Virginia my gosh the bikes are gone a mile there's gonna go half a block to get to shopping so in the area where it gets more congested downtown my suggestion is not to have the cyclotron two-way but to continue the bike lane from Center just a one lane in the same direction as traffic to your point um you may because of the um intersections you may want to have it cross over before you hit the river because at first um or or it first goes the wrong way it's one way the other you know this way before we get on the south side of the river crossover to Virginia and continue North so you so through the downtown part of Virginia that might be where the bikes are I don't think that takes away any parking we barely have any parking you and I went and looked at it at the parking on Virginia most of its loading zone you can barely Park on Virginia regardless your idea was to change the loading zones to allow for example pedestrians to park for 30 minutes unload load up their packages but not stay long-term parking go with the garages for the longer term parking so I guess my suggestion is to down by Midtown have the one way you know really accelerated bike lane really enhanced bring it in to Virginia in the downtown section so you preserve that on and off ramp thing and and those issues that you're identifying IU Center a lot for driving I do it's it's unfettered it's easy to drive on yeah it's wide I mean there's a lot going for it I love it I prefer eventually go out of my way to drive on Center my colleague may not but I do um I want to move on so I do think there's a way forward to have bike Lanes on both Center in Virginia and Center to University why not drive all the way up to University if you want to stay on there go but at least you're going One Direction moving on I totally support the safety cleanliness and I'm going to add in bathrooms again um aspect of this downtown rehab I didn't really hear it in the presentation I know I didn't get on all the details I read in the document about housing you know it talks about putting more housing in downtown that that might be something and I think we're going in the right direction with Harris and so on um but maybe there even needs to be more I want to just talk and I hope I get one third time about the phasing but I want to talk right now about the two ends of Virginia so we've got believe Plaza essentially on one end close to and the Circus Circus parking garage on the other I totally support as a first pitch activating those spaces but I didn't hear you say Circus Circus what I heard you say was uh the Plaza Associated so my question is going to be how do and how does that fit with the arch like we need a place where people can take pictures they mention the Instagram every we stop the traffic wait we have to get a picture um there has to be something set up there to enhance that space so you go um so the phase of implementation plan the phasing and the Believe In Circus Circus so with Circus Circus it is part of um starting those conversations with the row as part of phase one that we don't own that right so there's different ways that the city can partner with them to make it happen but obviously um those conversations haven't been fully fleshed out yet as we haven't gotten the direction from Council yet to pursue them so um we hope to get the implementation plan approved so we can continue on to the next phase of turning some of these into con from Concepts into reality um as far as well they've got to step up and participate in my opinion they and they've been participating in conversation they've been listening they've been showing up but I but you said we're looking at the garages but one of the biggest issues has been their big walls what are they you know what are they doing about their big ones and we've gotten some positive positive um I mean they're excited about turning their plots the vacant space on 4th Street into something that's more active than Placita they like the idea of opening up their entrance that's been closed on Virginia Street I love that and so those are those would be I mean there's certain things that are kind of like low-hanging fruit that we should pursue first and then other things that would be more down the road okay well I'm gonna have a third thing I'm facing I just want to know what are we doing what are we voting on you know Compton on breakfast and I'm I'm um you know I'd like a little more time because I I did not yield the floor but I want I want to say you know this Koski came up and said it's about the network it's about the network and that's why I did not support the Gale study because it was just one street and I referred to the earlier 2016-2015 uh I think traffic Works was the consultant downtown Transportation plan and we need to think comprehensibly about it and I I still think I still think you're wrong I still think others are wrong the cycle track is not about the cycle bicycling as much as it is about calming speeds and volumes through downtown you cannot have high volume high speed couplets through downtown and have a pedestrian environment of a downtown it just does not work proven proven proven okay I'm gonna move that along I do want to talk about the implementation plan and the expertise that gel brought Gail brought so one is um I see in your recommendations a lot of uh you know kind of um fluidity in terms of what you want to do and what I would like to see is all the aspects that involve private property because I think we need to be very clear with ourselves and with our public is you know look private property rights are what private property rights are we have some Concepts we have some great expertise and we will have conversations we've got workers who you know employees who can go out and say hey we had some neat things looked at your property end of situation you know we're not there moms we're not their lenders we're not their shareholders they do what they do on you know our our investment in our property and in our space I I think that's where we need to to put it um I would like to hold the two and a half million until we do involve the greater thinking of how to do the right-of-ways which is the network as Miss koskey said but having said that I have some questions about some of these improvements two and a half million dollars doesn't go very far and um you know we have seating we have the little uh poker chip things that people do sit on and we also have a standard that we've played with over time and that's the uh stamp concrete and the I think the the um the candy cane the purple and then we also have the candy cane um Stromberg I think they're called um because one concern I have is we bring introduce an Urban Design theme on Virginia Street and it conflicts with the overall continuity of aesthetic that we have established downtown did they um because then you start to look really sloppy and the way fairing came in and you can look really sloppy with we've already got four generations of sign wayfaring downtown we don't need a fifth because that looks like a downtown that's been just very um scatter scatter shot you really do need a continuity of your Urban Design theme in a great City so did they can you address that a little bit so a lot of the specific designs that would come forward would be after after the implementation phases are approved in Concepts these are basically an outline then staff would be able to take these and create the more detailed design plans as you're speaking to to bring back to council for approval of specific projects yeah I I um I think because we did attach money to it which is okay I I think we need a little bit more from yeah um so because things have a way of Disappearing here and then going into administrative implementation and then you know I I just I'd like to see a little more specifically yeah so because the money is arpa funding it does need to come forward to be approved by council with a project so we would we don't we don't want to go create a full project that you all haven't said we're in favor conceptually of this project so we need you to tell us that that you like the concepts of the project so then we can go and develop them flesh them out work with the relevant stakeholders to actually be able to come back with a proposal okay any other questions well I do okay um I'm allowed so just getting into the phasing so you said you're going to bring back each face and um I think there could be a slight argument about what's in Phase One what's in phase two like maybe we should accelerate something maybe we should delay something so when would we have that kind of conversation like do you want that right now do you want to come back with us and say hey we're going to be bringing you a cost estimate for phase one here's where we're looking at that's what I'd like to see and then the next meeting or two bring back the dollar estimate once you've got a conceptual approval of what's in that phase how do you feel about that so some of the items would be quicker like not not everything in phase one is going to have the same timeline gotcha so I don't believe that we would bring it back as like this is the full phase one I got the package okay there are some things like has been mentioned that the city has control over it's our property right our ability those things potentially could move faster other things are other people so here's three things that we haven't talked a lot about I'm going to start with transportation and the buses so what I've heard from a lot of people um is that they want a better bus Network and I've even heard that we're one of the worst cities in in the west at least in our bus Network I hear it all the way from South Reno you know it takes two hours to get to downtown from South Reno and it should take you know the drive time is maybe 20 minutes but the transition time and everything so if you want this to be a destination we've got to also make it easier to get there bus doesn't have to be on Virginia in my opinion can easily be on Center where it's a wider Street could easily be on other streets besides Virginia but it should be near if you want people to come and it you know if they're going to have challenges with parking then they got to know I can get there another way and I can ride their bike right they don't want to spend two hours two and two hours home there's got to be some faster ways to get around so that's number one number two parking so we did a great job we have this parking garage right here it is free a lot of people don't even know it exists they don't know that it's available on weekends it's almost completely empty has hundreds of spaces it's just a few blocks from many things we have another parking gallery on Sierra to your point about accessing the two parking garages that we have there's other parking garages at casinos there's two one by the bowling Stadium I mean we have a fair amount of parking garages and maybe we have enough you know can I actually share some exciting about that um so the Downtown Arena partnership is working on an interactive parking map that basically people could use that to see what parking is available when they come downtown because I think a lot of the issue is you don't know which parking garage is room or right you know where they're located perhaps we have quite a bit and they're spread around um you know and I think that would be a good first okay let me just say one more thing programming so throughout this document I kept reading programming programming programming I mean who is doing that who's in charge of that who pays for that I mean you know we're going to have the partnership do one Tuesday which is amazing it's no Tuesdays right one Tuesday and they are on something called partnership Plaza which I didn't remember renaming anything is partnership Plaza where we have the trees and the two buildings across from Bowling Stadium yes that is it's the space they're leasing okay um well I don't mind the name but I didn't know we had a new name because we've called it Civic Plaza or City Plaza before but the programming our record if it's Recreation and Parks Department Recreation is sort of this I mean who we're so stressed right to keep up our 88 Parks the maintenance programming the new pool soccer fields I mean all of this is programming too so what kind of programming are they looking at and and how can we support that so one of the things that recently happened was the approval of the special events uh activation staff member coordinators thank you so um I mean that role would have a somewhat a real person would have a big role and I don't know what it would look like obviously but um that there are changes that are happening to try and improve it's the Domino so okay you know there are things and then um the dental Arena partnership is taking on an aspect of that which is great and so again I mean we're starting here and hopefully there'll be more people in the community who step up as these spaces like a big part of it is as these spaces are actually becoming more conducive to small events because there is shade there is power there is lighting then someone who's maybe a community organization that never could pay to close down all of Virginia Street right can rent a small Plaza and do a small scale activation good so we're trying to create the environment it can be part of it but but it must happen so we can't just put shade on believe Plaza we can't just open up part of the Circus Circus parking lot and just say okay we're done declared success yes um we've got to program those spaces then once there is shade right yes and we want to do that okay all right um the money I think you had a question I don't know just how are we paying like you mentioned arpa so how much is there so it's about two and a half million dollars was set aside for Place making as well as some of the down or some of the facade Improvement and tenant Improvement projects there is I mean as much as Council would like to see just so you know two and a half million dollars spread across whether it was that a mile yeah is that about a mile Carrie yeah that is nothing if you truly unless we want to revitalize an area I I'm sorry I know people aren't going to like to hear that but I have to be very honest with you we're gonna get to a place and it's going to right that's my concern where where we literally will run out of money if you really are serious about this so we have a second we have a pot of money that was for overflow or um unappropriated and so that's a potential place to go as well you said we have we have a pot of money in the ARP that is designated for strategic Partnerships in the community yeah um in addition to the two and a half million dollars for Place making we have a facade Improvement program we have many millions of dollars for River path improvements that will of course play a role in here and then as the rdas get up and running this is um another source of funds for strategic Investments to revitalize and activate downtown okay um know who I would love to hear from we have not heard from either one of them yet I would love to hear from Eric eidelstein you want to come up and talk a little bit about the feedback what you're hearing you know the vision I I you know you've talked to a lot of us in great length what this looks like what the vision is where we're going that's one of the reasons why we're here because you're going to help us Implement that and then I'd love to hear from Dale love to hear what your thoughts are because we're going to need your help and your assistance from RTC to make this happen so go ahead Eric take it away oh thank you madam mayor Eric idle scene for the record um I will not take a lot of time because I would like to give Brian McArdle the floor because he has had as much engagement uh in this process whatever we want to do Brian's another going really with Amy but that's all good uh coming in late in this process sat through public stakeholder meetings read the read the feedback you are correct two and a half million dollars is is just just a tip um but it is Domino's um and so this is a domino it knocks over one safety becomes easier once we are using spaces and so this is something that's necessary we can talk about how wide a space or how narrow a space and then we'll always argue about whether we should have gone wider or whether we should have gone narrower but to rehash my presentation from the 29th we have 40 Years of plans that all say the same thing which is that Virginia Street is the main corridor from the University down to Midtown and this is an actionable actionable plan that can knock over a domino to keep it going so that would be my feedback on it I'd like to ask Mr McArdle to to also add in his his comments if you'd be willing and I'm just curious how does the how do we modify the street like honestly Virginia is very wide and even the sidewalks are like incredibly wide um I mean I honestly think it needs to have a road diet I think listen we learn learn some really valuable lessons from Midtown and and though I think it's it's a great Street now there are some things I think that could have put it over the top sure with the one in my own personal opinion of the wide sidewalks is it gives us great opportunity to kick out from the buildings that that aren't activating on the street and still have plenty of space for all the rest of the the mobility that needs to happen down you know throughout that street so the wide sidewalks are an asset if we hadn't put them in we'd wish we did so we have them now now we have a chance to use them I think they're great for the room because that's what we did in Midtown right but the whole street is wide it's very very wide so there's a lot of opportunity there which is a good thing but I do think the street right there could use some calming that's just my thought it Carrie have you guys talked about that or what that might look like Kerry Koski or city engineer so talking about the um how to slow traffic down and calming the traffic one of the ways that we can do that is through signalization better timing of our signal light signals um that's one of the things that we've been looking at and we'll dive more deep into that yes okay so are you gonna have parking and bike lanes that itself is narrowing absolutely absolutely I just didn't repeat that yes yeah absolutely Dale what do you think so good afternoon mayor council's member Dale Keller director of engineering for the RTC well first off I want to appreciate the partnership that we've had with City staff and working collaboratively with each other to understand what's the best solution uh and I think Amy did a great job identifying the positivities out of this uh Gale study and understanding making improvements to the backbone on Virginia Street um so overall we're supportive of the improvements that are being proposed in the study and happy they'll continue this dialogue together and talk about the network and I know there's a I think towards in the month we're going to be talking about micro mobility and the results that came out of that pilot study that helped support the city on that effort and also what is our program of projects look like for the next fiscal year and how do we keep implementing and doing great work on behalf of the city so thank you okay thank you but I would like to get your idea like what do you think are you excited are you like this is not a great thing come on give there's so much great momentum going on right an expert in this and so I want to hear like your vision what you think like come on a year ago where we are today and where we're actually now at a stage where the council has a ability to make uh recommendations for implementation plan I'd be blow me away so now we have all the pieces together the team that carries put together on her side of the city and the team that we have of some very great smart Traffic Engineers how everything is going to come together I'm very excited for the future of downtown Reno and I actually regionally we look at regionally how do we help apply the same type of Concepts not only in downtown Reno but downtown sparks then looking at subsets of our communities like the North Valleys or South Arena where you can build these microcosms of great connections outside of just your vehicle so to her point she's like we have to have that connectivity got to have that Network that connectivity right there really convinced me because you're right but she's an engineer she's smart this is what you do we don't but that's why I we need your feedback we need to know what does that look like and um and I think Dale you're very forward thinking you have been very good to work with so quick question for Dale if I may Dale do you recall off top of your head what Midtown cost it was redoing the street adding the sidewalks 80 utilities so for reference yep the Midtown project was not just focused on Midtown alone it was a bus Rapid Transit so it was Transit heavily focused right it's not only in downtown or Midtown Reno it was also by the university right I remember you did both um all the way to Liberty right then we we jumped and went from do you know what the part Plum to Liberty cost not in particular I can get you that information but the overall yeah project cost was about 100 million dollars that's what I thought and that was a it was a game changer in Midtown so here's our challenge we have wide sidewalks you don't have to rebuild them but they do need to be resurfaced we know that the surface on there is a trip hazard we know that there's still stuff in the middle of the walkway right signage light post still to this day we know we have a mishmash of to councilman recklessness Point signage light posts I've talked to Carrie we have some different ones right up first in Virginia then some other kinds down the way not that everything needs to look alike but there should be some kind of symmetry so I don't think it would cost anything like the 100 million but I think we need you I mean you worked with us to put in at least 40 civil cells something like that with the trees in Midtown I mean this is infrastructure heavy cost and I understand it's not a bus route I mean I'm not recommending put more buses on Virginia I think that's too much congestion but if that's the decision that's a decision I'm talking about downtown Reno go ahead councilwoman from the rtc's perspective is that when we Gail identify I think number two was elevating the Baseline yeah more than happy to partner with the City of Reno to talk about those Street improvements to elevate the Baseline and address some of the comments that you brought up yeah because it is going to be a bunch bunch of millions of dollars to to repay to re-strike I mean repave restripe and rebuild the sidewalks properly better you don't have to take down power lines there aren't a lot of power lines in this part down you don't have to you don't have poles right in the middle of the sidewalks that are only two feet wide I mean there's a lot different and better in downtown already but it's still going to require a couple 10 million 15 million in my maybe last parting words would say we are working together look at that Network experience and where we're investing that money into and where we prioritize our monies and what type of funding the good news is I think thank you to Mayor shaving advice mayor Reese about their participation in our RTC Board of help Gathering that and finding funding sources to advance this downtown microability because we can't do it without you and you'll see presentations you'll be seeing a lot of myself most likely the next couple meetings either in late April and early May the talk about our program and talk about how we're delivering these projects okay foreign any other questions so the only thing is that I I think because I still would love to see a cycle track if it's done the right way and I still think it's better best on on Center that's just my thought versus Virginia um I think it would be safer that's just my thought but I think Carrie brings up some really good issues that we would have to hammer out now councilman doer you that's what you were saying is they would just sort of go the same direction yeah they would go in the same direction as travel it's just we would have a very enhanced on Center I think Center is a beautiful place to have this bicycle but it doesn't have to be quite as wide to have two-way and it doesn't have to be as dangerous you know but we need it and I think we need on Virginia I think as you get into downtown where it's congested we need it through multiple streets to the point we've been talking about maybe down by Midtown it's primarily on Center and primarily on Forest and high school going you know the two one-way streets I mean but anyway certainly they can scope this out like some Alternatives that's all we're asking for but I think I think the message to the public is we are committed to biking and we are committed to biking on Center Street as well as the other streets okay any further questions all right would you um I would love for the ward Representatives the board representative to give us a motion thank you madam mayor I am so excited to make this motion I move to accept the study and adopt the phased implementation plan as presented you're right I have a motion from councilwoman Taylor and Ward a second I have a second from councilwoman Doer all those in favor mayor yes go ahead yeah I'm not going to support the motion I've been consistent all along that um we need to look at the network Virginia Street actually for a downtown Street in terms of The Pedestrian environment it creates Works reasonably well the focus needs to be on the high volume high speed streets that are on either side of it this does nothing to do that doesn't look at the network so I won't support the continued focus on Virginia Street when it's the best of the downtown streets right now or The Pedestrian environment secondly the implementation phase plan doesn't really delineate what is within the city's ability to impact and what is not within the city's ability to impact and I I think that this could lead to some confusion of you know uh well we're just going to go do the Row Plaza or we're going to do this I think that it needs to clarify here I see people you know stuff's kind of laughing on that but that's fine I I you know I want to let you know I worked in a downtown setting you know 30 years ago I've done a lot of this I just think that I'm not seeing a Clarity of your work program coming out and so with that implementation phase being very splotchy naming plazas we don't even know who controls or who whose authority the um it's just a little too loosey-goosey in terms of what your work program is going to be doing and then we hear it back you know well your staff member is out talking to this person and saying they need to you know hire an architect to do this no we want to that we want to understand what your direction is when you engage with the the property owners and businesses downtown and that you have a clear understanding of what you know the city's role is and not what the city's role is and I don't see that in your suggested implementation plan right Mr manager so I won't support the phasing okay on the knowledge well all right you don't have to compliment on me that's my comment on mine right thank you councilman breakfast I gave you three minutes so I just wanted to let you know usually it's a minute mayor I really do appreciate it so my wonderment on the motion is how do we make it explicit I just said it but it's not in the motion that biking is going to happen on Center and possibly Sierra how do we make that explicit so people know that if we approve this it is not to the exclusion of the other that's what I want to know so and two how do we know like I don't necessarily support the road Plaza if the road is going to be involved which I love it I would love them to see the do the um garage thing first so so I expect you're about to say that we're not agendaized to for what for Sierra and Center that said what we can say unequivocally here is that approving or accepting this report and reproving this phasing plan is not a mutually exclusive that's what I want to hear those decisions thank you but we are not agendized to make those particular decisions today but you'll bring those back because you've heard from them it's already the council that we're very interested in when we have a design that works and a path forward we will bring it back let's come up with the timeline like we've talked about a cycle track forever and ever and ever and ever and I would like to see it like pop as soon as possible like what was that what would that look like and I know Carrie's so busy oh my God all we do is like here Carrie have more or have more and she's sitting here but I mean it wouldn't be like no way yes and I seconded this motion I want some assurance that it is not mutually exclusive that we can work in parallel and that this this project on Center whatever it looks like is very important in our community Kerry Koski uh you're a city engineer um you're absolutely correct it is not dependent on that uh we are going to bring back the second meeting here in April the pilot project for the micro mobility and then in may we are going to be starting our Network um public Outreach RTC has also got an item agendized for the micro Mobility so you in the next three months you're going to can you're going to get sick of seeing us well can you make sure the word Center Street NCS we're going to look at the network connectivity which is not just Virginia Street it's all streets okay clearance with our attorneys so that if we want to talk about these ancillary streets we can talk about we will be so that will be separate from this item placement okay yep okay is that okay okay thank you you answered my question adding that no I'm not adding it because it sounds like I can't add it but we've given staff Direction all right and they've gone on record saying that they will work in parallel okay so I have a motion um I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed no motion carries all right motion carries okay okay Madame with your permission we'll go back to our consent agenda items and we would open item B24 by council member okay and then just I want to put this on everyone's radar we still have a massive agenda that we've got to get through we have a six o'clock appeal I don't know how we're going to get across any of these so I would just ask that you'd be aware of our time and also Madam clerk will you please um help me watch the three minute clock so that we can be more efficient but we've got a lot to get through councilwoman breakfast I'm going to send it to you no I'm I am focused on uh some of our budget expenses right now and risk is is a big one and I'm just unclear so this is approval to realign the property insurance renewal cycle of each year by extending current cycle three months in the amount of 357 thousand dollars does this amend an agreement Adrian white for the record I'm the risk manager here at the City of Reno um it's what it's doing is it's taking our current expiration date of June 30th for the property and extending it to September 30th because last year we did that with all of our other insurance programs so we're just trying to realign it with those programs at this time I understand that and that was in the staff report but I think you're also doing something with it which is amending an agreement and it doesn't say you're amending an agreement the agreement amendment is not uploaded to your item and so how can you do this without amending the agreement where it's the the policy that we're binding um so we did actually bind the policy on March 31st because the uh one of the carriers the earthquake carrier would not extend their binding period which is essentially I guess like signing a contract you could say um past April 1st however the payment for that wouldn't be due until after today's council meeting um but there is we do not have a signature anything in place pending the um renewal of today or the the motion of today yeah I know you're new to our organization and other people have looked at this but in my view and sometimes people have to sign things but it comes back for a retroactive the the the fact that I I think that this body needs to approve an agreement or an amendment to an agreement the agreement is not up here it should be and the item should state that Authority is granted to the mayor or the manager or whoever you maybe to sign the agreement an amendment so I have significant problems with this one um it's very relevant because it's a it's a big issue um you know it's our insurance policies but I just I'm looking for the agreement I'm looking for a request to amend the agreement um I don't see that and it looks in flaw to me um so I'll just bring that forward and um and I'm not comfortable you know I I'm not I'm not comfortable with this unless you bring it back to amend the agreement and I don't see that you're covering that in your at and you know that probably should have been caught by other people I I think um but you know someone somewhere assigning an amendment to an agreement or the policy which it you know is under the agreement thank you all right thank you any other council members Madam mayor yes go go right ahead well this is perhaps directed to Mr Shipman because I'm I want to understand something about what's being requested here and it relates to an incident that was very troubling to me that I read about in the paper recently and it had to do with a council member who hit a homeless person uh in the park and so I wanted to understand from our risk standpoint because our our cars we receive sort of a portion of our income or our salary for the job we do as a called a car allowance if a person is in their car and they run over someone and then they leave the scene without perhaps providing their insurance information or the details about how to reach them if the person's injured is that covered under our insurance policy meaning we're you know we're effectively in our cars acting in City vehicles and when someone strikes uh you know a person and then runs off without exchanging the information required by Nevada law I'm worried that that creates you know Financial Risk to the city and our insurance policy let alone the fact that it was just a horrible thing to do to a human being but I want to understand this this agenda item about that policies renewal for the record uh John Shipman from the city attorney's office my belief here and I'm doing this based on reading the staff reported this is just for the property insurance this is not necessarily car insurance so I think this is just um again as stated what we're doing is putting the uh syncing up the the property insurance thanks so much Jill already read my mind our buildings it's our it's our buildings and not our cars is that correct all right Jill go ahead and explain this for us director Human Resources so what we are looking to do is realign the expiration of the city's property insurance for continuity with our other insurance coverage programs from June 30th to September 30th of each year what we are requesting from Council is approval for that three-month extension that realigns that expiration date on those insurance policies and the policies in question today are simply limited to the property insurance so the earthquake the fire those types of policies related to our buildings and Facilities what kind of policy would that be that councilman Reese is talking about do you know is there something like that so all of our city vehicles are covered and insured pursuant to state law as all vehicles on the road should be and part of the challenge is that as a that is a separate policy that isn't the one we are looking to extend today that is covered under the other policies it's not property okay okay thank you I think that was good clarification hold on one second Jill could you please describe the 15-day window for rate quotes related to the carrier and why that presents trouble with the expiration date of June 30 versus our meeting schedule yeah absolutely so part of this is to ensure operational efficiency so many insurance companies provide a very limited window of time in which they say this is the rate we can provide you for this policy because obviously things in the insurance Market fluctuate quite regularly and so given council's meeting scheduled during that time of year and that very limited window oftentimes we get from the insurance providers we want to realign this so that we can more timely bring it forward to council without having to bind and then come to council to ask for approval to purchase the policy got it okay so you're sort of on a timeline I got it yes trying to realign for everybody's efficiency okay thank you so much I appreciate it okay any other questions please all right so councilwoman go ahead motion to approve second I have a motion from councilman Doris second um from councilman Martinez all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed I all right one opposed councilman breakfast okay let's move on going back to you councilman breakfast I think 20. um go ahead well I can say why I pulled it and then she can say I pulled it look I don't think development issues should be on consent agenda I just don't and this is something that comes up at Regional planning which is where the electrical power line is I think it should be under Community Development or something like that so we could at least have an explanation of what's going on here and why we're doing it so like I don't think it should be up to us to pull it I think it should you should come to us because it's a very specific planning thing just like other planning things are separate so that's my thought and I was hoping to get an explanation of it but I before we do perhaps councilmember Ebert has some thoughts it was basically the same reason yeah sure in looking at this so this is a sponsorship this doesn't require resolution does not require an ordinance it is merely a sponsorship and so uh through the direction of uh Jeremy Smith the acting director at uh Trucking Meadows director the director at uh turkey Meadows uh Regional planning agency um their preference is to have the governing body sponsor um the sponsored the amendment to the regional plan so there's a few things going on with this project this project has already been seen by our Planning Commission and was approved by our Planning Commission it has also gone through the appeal process of this so this is really at this point it's it's the action of of moving it up up the hill um if this you know is not sponsored it would still because of the project of regional significance it still goes forward to the regional Planning Commission they also have the option to sponsor this and so on this we had we discussed with um legal on how how to approach this and because it's not noticed it doesn't legally have to be done it is just a sponsorship not an ordinance resolution anything like that we felt that um sort of to streamline the process and move it forward we did put it on the consent agenda is that kind of like a consideration yes like to me this is just more of a it's a formality oh yeah okay but you say there's no letter uh but I'm confused I mean we have to convey our approval and sponsorship somehow great and that would be through the minutes um so I would I would write a letter to to uh the regional when I request that they uh review it for conformance and the amendment and then they will move that forward but it would be the minutes uh this is more of a journal applicability and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this specific project it could be phenomenal and I know that it's gone to these other bodies but just like lots of things go the Planning Commission or nabs or other bodies and I'd just like to see it separated out this kind of planning actually understood it could be a one minute um approval got it but just sort of with its like brothers and sisters all right other questions yeah I think we were looking inside them like a map or something sure and then go ahead and uh would you like a map of where it is or our regional map of where we would see it established what would you like to see it's all this at my NAB but just in case you know constituents of my ward missed that that you know they could I can refer them back to this meeting so they can kind of get a high high level overview of what this is certainly I have a presentation I'm happy to present yes yes so for the record I I don't think I did it my name is Brooke Oswald I'm an associate planner with development services so good afternoon council members and Madam mayor I'll tell you a little bit about the project so located down in the North Valleys area this is a substation 121 kilovolt substation as you can see as I we just discussed this is for the regional sponsorship the case went to Planning Commission on March 1st and was approved that case was LDC 230045 P Vine substation uh just a location in context so where the arrow is that is the intersection of 395 instead Boulevard and then here on the corner of the site this is peabine Peak Road and uh the intersection with uh North Virginia Street come in a little bit closer on the site and I can give you kind of a context of what this is surrounding so it's currently a vacant uh site it's approximately 9.9 and three quarter acre site uh just for reference again that's the intersection of P Vine uh P Vine Peak and Virginia Street uh to the north we have a series of mini warehouses so a semi-industrial use uh to directly to the east we have a number of uses but mostly related to Industrial use we have some outdoor storage we have a auto wrecking yard and we have some other uh construction and other businesses directly to the south of the site we're seeing a major rail Corridor that runs through there whoop let me go back and then right above that the white dot that's a tumwa water tank so we're seeing other sort of utilities and services in this general area looking at our master plan that's the one on the left there uh the blue stripe indicates that's a special planning area now that's related to the Reno stead joint corridor plan we currently we have uh that has been sunseted by both the Washoe County and our regional planning agency it is currently we are currently we've just noticed for that and we will be moving through that process to remove that master plan and then reassign other Master plans so you'll see more of that before this Council as that goes forward on the right we have our zoning it is a single family eight dwelling units per acre so uh but as you can see we kind of see really industrial uses and and some other things going on there um a utility or this is Major utility and that is allowed in that uh sf8 zoning with with um a conditional use permit and as you can kind of see on that zoning around we're seeing a lot of industrial we do some see that sf8 in those larger Lots uh off to the um West there um but because of topography some of the existing uses I think coming in a residential is unlikely to happen in that area so as I said before this went to the Planning Commission was approved that was a conditional use permit for two things that was the establishment of that major utility and then two they had for cuts um cuts and fills that's Cuts exceeding 20 feet in depth and fills in 10 feet in height as you can see there's a sloping topography on that it is a large format where they need that flat to facilitate uh the substation there they've cut in the back of the hill and they pushed up towards Virginia Street which kind of puts the the substation a little bit up higher and kind of uh takes it a little bit from that visual or aesthetic view takes that out and then that was approved went through the appeal process now we're looking at that Truckee Meadows Regional planning there are two things going on that's the project of regional significance to establish that substation um that will be uh that's heard by the regional Planning Commission then the amendment to the regional master plan uh which is putting that substation basically on a map but it does require that to be amended that has to go to the regional governing board and that requires the sponsorship and that's why we're here today um with that I can leave you with the motion and if you have any other questions or anything I'm happy could you go back to the last one sure just a quick question so I'm unclear does the power line go here now or is this going to bring an entire power line along Virginia no there is a major uh Powerline Corridor that runs adjacent to the site so this does not establish any new Corridor it only establishes the system station correct and but is there power there now or is it an empty Powerline quarter it is no it is there is power there now so they will be it is a it's a great location because they can really just move right into the the corridor there with the substation thanks will this help with any kind of um power outages or anything we have in the area we do frequently get them if it's windy or we have storms or anything like that will that kind of help with those issues and Ward four no I can't speak from MB energy and exactly how's that happen now is the staff report said we have a we've had we've seen a large amount of growth out there we've seen the industrial growth a number of those things in talking with the representative from um NV power um Envy energy they um did say that there are three other substations in the general area so this is part of that overall Network and they'll connect without this they would anticipate one of those would be meet or be past capacity into in 2024 so with that that sort of infers that this is this is back up and would be anticipated um you'd see more redundancy within the system and hopefully less blackouts and other issues thank you it is your open to approve all right thank you so much I have a second any discussion all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right okay we are moving on Madam clerk item J uh 26th okay books was who was this councilman councilman breakfast yeah breakfast go ahead so this is a multi-year contract uh new contract or contract extension for outsourcing building inspection um or building plan review building plan review um services and I have a few questions about the materials um so in in fiscal year 21 um the city uh allocated 500 000 for the services in fiscal year 22 our current fiscal year we allocated another 500 000 and you're asking to extend it for five years for a million is that correct for the record Spencer Schultz management analyst development services department yes that is correct okay so I added up the ones that was exhibit a to your stop report and those only came to 354 thousand dollars right exhibit a yeah to the staff report the Excel list that shows all the projects that have been yeah yeah that's in the last calendar year from date to date calendar well no it was all yeah it was all of 2022. so it was 354 000. so I I guess the question you can look at it two ways is one you didn't spend all the 500 000 if mine out calculation is correct and then if you are asking for 500 000 each year and you want to go five years why aren't you asking to budget 500 000 each year going forward for five years so the increase in the non-toxic seed amount is to one million dollars and we've extended the contract length up to six years total originally we came with a two-year plan for five hundred thousand dollars we had to come back in fiscal year 22 for that additional 500. I remember currently we are seeing a continued um complex and Specialty permit submittal so we want to extend this but we're bringing this before Council in order to get your approval for that initial million dollar amount and if an amendment need to be done at a later date we could do that would you encumber that million dollars right now and yes and asked a budget over I you know um I don't like to forward commit money um even if fun that's running a huge Surplus but um the other question which is most problematic to me is why why aren't we developing our in-house plan review capacity I looked at these projects these don't seem like the mother of all projects they don't you know I don't see a Grand Sierra Resort in here I don't see I I see stuff that there should be in-house plan review capacity for and if you want to go out five years that implies to me you're not developing that in-house capacity and that bothers me particularly because you know I I think we've seen you this division this function be able to develop capacity in terms of reviewing uh Mega large industrial buildings right you have a plan reviewer can review a million square foot industrial building correct correct okay so how come and you need to thank you any other council members wanna chime in Okay no Okay councilman breakfast you get three minutes and then we're gonna vote why in the next five years and if you need to refer to your director bring them up why in the next five years can't you develop plan reviewers who can review these buildings so it's a two-part question right I have a staff presentation prepared if you'd like to be presented I looked at it it's three slides it's I'm going deeper than what I'm seeing in there so thank you so to answer your question directly it's multifaceted right we have five plans examiners on staff with one supervisor what Bureau Veritas is giving us are structural and Architectural Engineers right and they have they're a international consulting firm that has 300 Engineers on staff who can work on these projects in the expedient timelines that we give to developers locally so as you know our initial plan review timeline is 10 days for an initial review and then three days for additional revisions in order to meet that type of timeline and manage those building timeline expectations we would need to expand that staff significantly ultimately it's more cost effective to contract via third party this is a industry standard practice city of Sparks uses city of Las Vegas uses it so that's really the answer to your question yeah I'm I'm not there been around building departments for a lot of years I've had building inspectors under me I I get the Contracting but I want the in-house capacity I don't want to to understand these high-rise buildings because then I want someone who can speak in the building to the fire department when they have to do response I think the link is broken I think a lot of what happened to 1200 Riverside is showing that the link is broken between the building department and the fire department and five years out of having you know someone in Vegas Review them but not being there to help and develop the relationship with a fire makes me nervous okay that that really is a problem for me and um I just can't get past it um I had another point but I kind of I've kind of lost it on that but I I'm not comfortable with that answer right now I I see that in times of high volumes you want to bring in the Consultants so you don't have to lay people off but um I'm not seeing that oh the other point is I'm seeing that from what you told me and I haven't been the liaison to the beef back in a while but we seem to have a two-tiered system here we have a two-tiered system of turnaround for big big you know people you know big these people and then we have everyone else and you know maybe I haven't been informed of that um but you know the timeline should be the timeline for all so I don't know if Mr Pinger wants to answer that but my my bigger concern is the Brokenness of the plan reviewers to our fire department Chris Pingree director of development services uh you're incorrect in the two-tiered system two-tiered system we have a 10-day plan review the reason why we use Vera Veritas is to be able to meet that 10-day turnaround whether it's a patio cover or a six-story high-rise classified building we use that we have these guys that are beck and call in order to provide that service to the end user doing the hot that they're doing they're not doing the patio covers they're doing the big anything we need Structural Engineering review on we use them correctly we do not have a structural engineer on staff with our department why why not Chris oh go ahead if you want to answer that you don't you don't have to but if you we don't have the Demand right how many how many five six seven eight story buildings did we see coming in to where we would have a structural engineer sitting around I sat for a decade with thousand reviews hold on a second and then I'll get back to you and also will you clarify because I think some of the comments were made and and people might misconstrue how they are but building review is different than Fire review they're not under the same standard or same Department that is correct we are we take those in as in a permit application system and then those are sent to fire for their review building all of the architectural and structural review is done within our department development services Fire Health tomorrow the rest of those go to the other you know sister companies that are sister organizations that help with that review in the process we're just the gatekeeper okay that's exactly what I wanted to just make sure because I don't want people to think they're under one review that's not how that works okay does anyone have any questions if not I'm going to send it back to councilman breakfast three minutes you know I just I want you to have the in-house capacity I've seen the in-house capacity before I you know if you were selling me it's like we just cannot get plan reviewers who have that capacity yeah we we spent 18 months starting to find a plan reviewer qualified to work here 18 months that position was open but you got five we have five now yeah it took us 18 months to get one okay and those five you're telling me that none of them have the ability to review an eight-story building they all do then why aren't they doing it because we have enough demand coming in we did 13 000 permits last year right so I understand those all take time every one of those all five of our plans and condemners are incredibly busy busier than they have ever been but we like to keep them that way and this is a backup to have when we have these high Structural Buildings that helps us get a third set of eyes on it to where our people get to actually learn from the Professionals in the business so well saying why don't you give the the Outsource the easier things and as you're presenting you're doing all the the tall stuff off to this Veritas is that how it's working that's the business decision we have decided to make yes all right councilman breakfast go ahead and um give me a motion I won't give them okay thank you I'm gonna send it to uh council did this go to the beef hack this is the beef hack seen this this was spoke about a beef hack yes and they were all supportive yes they understand we have a commitment to the development because I want to say you do an amazing job I am so impressed and you're always one Department that people are like Hillary I love working with Chris love working with that department I'm hearing it all the time it's just all positive positive and you're the expert thank you so I appreciate you recommending this to us go ahead uh councilman Taylor uh thinking about Mary I'm prepared to make a motion to approve stack recommendations for the agreement okay thank you I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all as opposed host okay motion carries okay moving on 33 yep Item B through 33 pulled by council member Martinez all right take it away council member Martinez yeah hi I just had a quick question about this I've been hearing a lot about the conditions of our roads so I just wanted to see if you could share with us in the public a little bit more about what this allocation is for and if you can kind of address some of the things that we have done to address the pothole specifically in our area okay yeah absolutely um so I did not prepare a presentation but uh for the record Hans Meyer senior civil engineer in the public works department uh the item before you today is essentially a condition analysis consultant agreement to go out to our roadways and collect condition analysis uh pavement condition index is a word that you might hear frequently related to our streets projects basically that is a rating of our roadways from zero to 100 we aim to get all of our roadways done throughout the entire city every three years and that's what this item is for in terms excuse me in terms of just what we are doing right now for potholes um not only is our maintenance and operations team uh working day and night to fill those potholes and make them not holes we are also tracking where those locations are on the regular basis through every Reno direct uh service request that comes through we're mapping those and we're looking at with our construction projects and with our I think I was here last last month on the preventative maintenance project how to repair our roadways when we can and do it in an efficient manner great thank you so much for sharing some of that information and expanding on that and I like that not holes yeah like I like that I have not heard that yeah it's good turning potholes into knot holes nice and I like that you're tracking it so we can kind of keep an idea where that's going and just to put it on the record too so if anybody sees any potholes on the area they can report those to Reno direct absolutely I report those to Reno direct um this this item before you today is also just related to that massive amount of data that we do collect to make sure where our roadways are and where we're going to make sure we have safe roadways to travel upon and if no other council member has any questions I'm ready to make a motion but I'll leave I do have a question yes I'm first of all I think you did a great job excellent and like second of all um I'm just curious when you're driving are you like writing it down okay I'm on because I think you know we're seeing him now more than ever obviously because of the weather and it's just been a really tough tough landscape for our roads so let me let me ask you like how do you feel about it because like you must be driving around the city going oh my goodness um yeah absolutely I mean as a as a resident uh lifelong um this this year is very uh reminiscent of 2016 and 2017 um for those that were around um there was an extensive effort that construction season uh that led to a lot of patching um very similar to what we're going to be looking at again this year um it's another it's it's it's not quite the same storm every storm is different um but that's probably the last time we saw a weather event like we saw this last season yeah I do get yeah in a season in inside of work outside season um it is the Talk of the Town so we are we have our work cut out for us uh this this summer um I just I can make a quip that the uh second state flower of the road construction cone is about to bloom if it has or not already thank you so all right good job born and raised here huh yes that's awesome love it all right so I have a motion from councilman Martinez the second from councilwoman Taylor all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries in honestly good job thank you okay we are on 35 Madame mayor this was mine also okay thank you you know I'm confused about this because um it bring raised questions the staff report now this is a consulted agreement with uh one Studio DNA um D plus a for contract Administration for the public safety center and we already have a contract with them and it's adding about three hundred thousand dollars more with them but I'm just I'm confused because it's a 29 month construction period correct and the first contract was for one point eight million for 15 months correct and now the other 14 months which is you know almost equal time we're only adding three hundred thousand dollars but in the scope here it says that the work is even more involved it's going from every other week meetings to meeting weekly so why are you only doing it you know same amount of time more work and only asking for three hundred thousand dollars more do you understand the question I do uh Justin George senior civil engineer for Public Works the original contract with one Studio DNA we went into with them October of 2019 was for architectural design and construction Administration so that 1.8 million included design permitting bidding and 15 months of construction Administration so this is just to get us through the last 14 months of construction Administration okay so but I thought there was some statements in there that they need to do a little more design on some features there's not more design as we go through things with the contractor you know they need to provide coordination there they help us coordinate with our vendors because we don't um have our vendor items up front we coordinate with vendors they're continually coordinating with the contractor if the contractor has questions about the construction documents the architect provides design clarifications to the contractor okay so there I thought there was something about they were going to do more design like on lighting or or something or wiring or something is that has that all been done the the design is complete but yeah there are things that they work with the contractor when questions come up throughout so okay design is has has been complete okay I'm satisfied with your answer you know I understand that you know the time and you know the the scope has been shrunk to one-third so you know that's I just um it's a massive project very difficult building um I've never supported that this approach um and the the poison pill that it got moved in financing wise with pool but I also feel that this body needs to keep an eye on the costs and um because there's can be cost creepage you know I want confidence that there's not cost creepage so that's why I pulled this but I am satisfied with your answer so thank you I'll make a motion if no one else has anything else to bring on that I'll make a motion second all right I have a motion from councilwoman breakfast a second from councilman Martinez all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries you honestly good job okay moving on I believe is it 30 feet 40 hold by council member breckis and just a note for the record Vandermeer that councilmember Reese was having some technical issues so he has left the zoo meeting okay and I don't know that he will be rejoining okay now let's see this I would like explain what we're doing hello Amy Pennington again um special project Outreach coordinator for public works and today uh what we're here to do is I'm here to ask for Council to begin the annual process for collecting assessments for the downtown Reno business improvement district and that's by setting a date for a hearing and so every year the city administers an annual assessment on behalf of the downtown Reno business Improvement District um pursuant to NRS 271 there is a process that has several steps to make sure that residents are notified of their assessment so this is the boundaries of the zone um with the different types of groups there is standard premium and premium plus this is in the downtown core in and then this is the timeline of the different key dates so in February and then in March actually the DRP came and presented their budget and then right now we're on step two which is asking the council to accept a resolution that sets the date time and place for a public hearing for the filing of the assessment role well so sorry the public hearing and the filing of the assessment rule the public hearing will be on May 10th and this is when the public can come forward and have any complaints or protests or objections to the assessment role and any hardships that are presented the council can consider and then the fourth step is that there will be an ordinance adoption to Levy the assessments or sorry an order sorry an ordinance introduction to Levy assessments and then the fifth step is the ordinance adoption so are there any questions yeah about that now um you were not the presenter for the first step correct the DRP was the presenter for the first step the first step is them presenting their budget I thought we had a staff member who who was involved there okay so I had asked because I recall that there was a six hundred thousand dollars increase is that correct it is correct and I had asked to know how that cost is distributed distributed among those who are paying and I asked particularly you know who proportionally is getting asked to pay more is it residence is it business is it cities or so on now the attachment here did show what everyone's paying this year but that calculation of who's bearing the increase of the six hundred thousand proportion to themselves was not there that it was material information that I want to know and you know we don't have anyone here because when they haven't been noticed this is to let them know they're being noticed but I know it's material to them having been through this before so number one you know Mr manager you know your staff reports your staff work your the comments were made they weren't followed up you know I'm just gonna say I I wanted information I didn't get it and it's material to Me Maybe it's not material to others you know you put the agenda together but I wanted to know number two is I also wanted to see the drp's budget because I'm seeing all right I'm gonna cut you off go ahead Mr manager so I would say that we have followed the process um to the letter with the with the business improvement district this is just the time and place to say they've come forward with a budget it's been accepted here at the city council we need to have a public hearing and we need to fix the assessment role for the year and if there are objections to that assessment role the way you are describing May 10th is the time and place to resolve them that's all we're asking for today notice it comment and so that's what yeah go ahead I get the legal compliance three minutes you know I get the we we're complying to the letter of the law but let's talk about what's best to help us do our jobs is these postcards go out and I'm you know property owner in the you know Arlington Towers or wherever and I was paying this much last year and I'm paying this much next year who am I going to call I'm gonna call one of us and why you know how does it happen why am I paying more because I've heard this before over the years wouldn't that have been nice to have before those calls come in yes and that's why I was trying to get that information now I want to Pivot to the budget of the DRP the budget of the DRP as I see it is I want to know how much is being done to do the premium service levels and the standard and that's the clean and safe that's the that's the public safety and the maintenance I don't want to know about the Downtown parking app or the marketing because I don't think those who are paying the the fees should be paying for that if I live in the you know I'll say the Montage I don't really want to be paying my fee for the Downtown parking app that's that's not what I think I what those fees should go for I'm a council member here I'm making the vote I want to know of their budget how much is coming from other sources to do those things I heard something about Tuesdays and so on because I really feel that we need a hard line of what the work that is generated through the money that is generated through this process goes to and in my view it just goes to Public Safety and it goes to clean and safe marketing Economic Development all these other things should come from other sources that's how I stood up this as as a an iteration from the two assessments we had before that we're doing policing maintenance they weren't doing um like chamber-like work and so I think we do have some real big questions to have answered and they were going to be answered in the five-year update they were always on the table and I think we're doing a disservice to these these folks now my last time it was discounted I've got a vendetta against Mr Jardin so everything was discounted by that statement by my colleague and I want to say that's not true you know I really have always stood with the downtown the bid as an approach but I think it has taken a very a pivot that is not serving those um those who are paying into it particularly the households you know and and I think the line that well most of it's being paid for by you know some of the big dogs and I looked at all the who's paying how much that shouldn't bear weight what should be is how much the hit is to each individual household and how it shifts and that it's a hit to them and what they're getting returned and I think that we are not um being responsive and honorable to a lot of the promises that were made when we adopted the downtown plan and stood this up without going a little deeper on this information Mr manager so thank you foreign Taylor oh madamir I'm just prepared yeah I'm prepared to make a motion oh this is your word okay go ahead uh I move to accept the resolution fixing the date time and place when complaints protest and objections to the assessment role for the downtown Reno business improvement district will be heard all right I have a motion from councilwoman Taylor do I have a second I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed no okay thank you so much okay moving along 40 what one and then 45 no yeah 41 45 and 49. so I think two of us hold this uh two of us pulled this I wanted to understand what what this is I I didn't fully understand sure thank you Eric Edelstein for the record um on March 22nd along with the activation coordinator um I was instructed to follow the presentation at that time to simplify and streamline the sponsorship process for our special event funding and so in the interest of uh as the mayor said moving faster and helping our special events get their funding um quicker um I've presented this resolution which simplifies streamlines but maintains the same approvals by Council for special event funding well what was streamlined or changed so what we did was first of all the the previous resolution um was very specific on the boards that needed to make up the sponsorship committee so we took a couple of boards that are always functioning we left one at large seat with a member and then we removed these special event subcommittee of the council so the special the four-person special event sponsorship committee will make their recommendations directly to the council for final approval so the the the the resolution contemplates a member of the make sure I get this right a member of the financial Advisory Board and a member of the Reno arts and culture it says subcommittee it should say commission um and a third member um to be appointed by the uh um by the sitting council member on that committee and then also you said four so the uh one member from the the city council would be one of the four and who is that today Taylor it's councilwoman Taylor got it so somebody special event subcommittee I'm oh you are yeah so this is different I believe this is the sponsorship subcommittee so that one is council member Taylor oh so there's two different boards we bring this back to where like we can really weigh in on this and I don't know I mean I feel like we're sort of disconnected if we're doing yeah what do you think so we could we certain we certainly can talk about it now I thought from March 22nd that um that the direction was clear to take uh a recommendation to create this sponsorship Committee of these four members and bring it back and we are holding we we are late admittedly in in getting this process going and so uh move this as quickly as I could to get it back and forth so what you're saying is the committee will then bring it to the council correct okay got it okay that's all that's perfect okay so is a recommendation to get rid of the special events committee no no no okay there were two bodies that weighed in prior to arriving at Council we're removing this subcommittee of the council so the sponsorship committee will bring their recommendations directly to council but that is getting rid of it we have a subcommittee of the council but you're saying do away with that right that is correct so instead of me being a part of this sub committee we would not be a part of that until things came before Council that is correct okay so who else was on this subcommittee do you know I'm sorry I don't you know wait I explain to us because it sounds like to me we had two this was go ahead go ahead Miss tourney for the record thank you Ashley attorney Chief Innovation experience officer to add a little bit of clarification there are two separate types of boards there's the sponsorship committee and then there is the special events subcommittee of the council so the resolution that's in front of you today does not propose getting rid of the special events subcommittee it is proposing removing them from the sponsorship process right so they'll still exist for looking at additional code changes if there's something that Council wants that subcommittee to go look at they still exist they're just not involved in the sponsorship in order to streamline to bring it to you sooner which was the request well they're dropping out of the review process for events correct because it is just coming directly to council so is there a companion piece to refocus the subcommittee that is not this is just for sponsorship which is what we often see though they'll come up with this recommendation that we bring to council and then we like end up going what is this you know what I mean like maybe you should be keeping the submittee and getting rid of the sponsorship the conversation needs to be here at Council so if I might yeah turn my microphone off um I have enough trouble thank you um if you recall uh a meeting ago or two meetings ago we brought forward a conversation on on sponsorship and reconstituting uh the board that um allocates that that money and we did that as part of the conversation on the activation coordinator position and the and the room tax fund and what we found is over time many of the identified bodies that contribute a person to that committee had had no the the sponsorship committee uh were now defunct and so it precluded us from having a lawful meeting of the sponsorship committee which led to all manner of administrative headache and so as part of that conversation the direction we took from the body was to come back with a resolution to cure that process so that we could do a better and more efficient job of getting those dollars out into the hands of our events promoters the resolution that's in front of you now is our understanding of the direction that we took from that meeting if the direction is now different we can have that conversation yeah so I'm just trying to understand the process here so if we don't have the subcommittee and I'm not on there and this whomever works on this and they come before Council and we vote on whatever they bring before us and we don't like certain parts of it are we going to be in a position like we were earlier with the place making study where we say oh we like this piece but we don't like another part and then we're stuck with you know what they present to us because that's what I'm trying to avoid I'd like to be a part of the subcommittee so that we have input before it comes to council and we just kind of have to take it or leave it um I think I apologize for interrupting I I think what I would say is again we're not eliminating the subcommittee the subcommittee is going to be an important part of redesigning I'm sure the special events code which is a project that we're undertaking this year as as you remember the Elegance of this solution is that if something has to come to council for a vote you're not stuck with anything right so all we're eliminating is a step where a handful of council members have input before it becomes before it comes to the broader Council so the the result that you're describing is still theoretically possible even if two of you participate earlier in the in the process so it's just removing a step it's removing one time barrier to entry into the process it's to get it to you sooner so that it gets into the community and have all of us weigh in you are not losing your voice in the process yes go ahead yeah so um you know we don't this the Reno city council doesn't have a lot of subcommittees and I think this special events subcommittee was stood up since I've been on I think you know I because I saw the the motion and I voted on it and um you know I remembered it mayor was here too um and I was never on it didn't really think it was you know something I wanted to focus on but as the years went on I really realized that it needed Focus um from me related to my ward where a lot of special events are held but also um some of the other considerations of um you know the financials of it particularly is related to what I understood was going on with um requirements for police services and I didn't support the motion a couple weeks ago I I didn't think it was clearly outlined and now we know the other side of the story I would encourage the council because we are gearing up the new day and the mayor's been talking about wanting a workshop on those I would not do this resolution I would say hey the council is the bandwidth and wants the learning curve right now to function as the sponsorship committee don't even have the sponsorship committee maybe you don't even have the subcommittee but you know let's set the budget know what the budget is Staff go out with your um with your announcement for it and bring back the recommendation and let the council make the decisions how to do it and then after you everyone sees how that works then we can understand what the process is because um I don't know if you all notice but they attached the um the application form to the did you notice that yes it's a 2014 form right you know kind of outdated uh Eric had a scene for the record the attachment was the full resolution from 2014. okay so it it is not uh that that application form is no longer far out far outdated and we thought it better not to include a specific form for that exact purpose so we didn't have to continue to bring back okay but what what I would say to the tool is you know really get a handle on this because it has implications Beyond just the little budget money you do act is the for this one year go around act as the committee let the applications come in and see how it works so you can learn how to work on this process that's what I thank you I mean that might be even quicker a quicker way to get the stuff to counsel so Miss Taylor councilmember Taylor thank you councilwoman I think I am a little bit confused because I've been hearing all afternoon that we want to streamline promotion we want to streamline events we want to streamline we want to make it easier easier easier this to me seems like the way this is a tool to get us to where we wanted to be so I'm just curious if somebody might be able to explain I'm a special event I'd like some money or whatever what does that look like thank you so only after this resolution is passed or a motion for a resolution is passed and that resolution is adopted we can then open up applications once we open up applications we can start reviewing them as quickly as possible as quickly as we can convene the group we can make recommendations and we can get them back to uh back to the body for a full vote so if let's just say Council reviews all of those applications that's not going to streamline the approach I think the subcommittee is the tool that we use to do that and bring the recommendations to cancel where we make a decision and then they go off and do their special event I believe that's right I'm a little over my skis but if the entire Council was the special event committee I believe then we're also in uh we'd be conducting open meetings for all the efforts for all the applications that does not sound like a streamlined approach to me at all okay thank you actually you know let me just ask before we before we get back to you councilman breakfast does anyone else want to weigh in on this okay back to you yes save the money you know because we got the activation quarters 300 000 this month but all the applications come in staff does a review of them and whether it's the sponsorship committee or the subcommittee and I've sat on the subcommittee and you know Miss Jardin and Miss Weber were more experienced than I was and I learned from them a bit is um you know staff will make the recommendation and you know it's and the count I think this Council really needs to see you know oh the Legacy ones are here but the new ones are here and there's you know a lot of uh you know they got more we didn't get more we want this I think it would be good for every all the members to understand how that plays out that's why what I would recommend this year is that open up the applications with the budget you're given or you have and let staff come through and say how much to give to each one based upon the parameters that are in place and then everyone can understand and make those allocations but um anyway that's what I would recommend so here's a comment from me what I'm worried about just in the interest of time given that we're so close to the end of the year for the Fab to make a recommendation for a member they have to gendize have a meeting agendize and make an appointment same for arts and culture um uh to have a it says a sitting person uh I don't know a third person I'm unclear who they are but they'll be appointed but they still have to apply because it's a committee so there has to be application our staff only want to deal with them on the first uh meeting of each month my point is this could easily take two months to set up this subcommittee this sponsorship committee and I don't think that's going to be very quick for this end of the year so I'm supportive of where you're going I just think where we are it's going to be April May is going to be June before this committee can even meet frankly so do you staff do you have any thoughts actually attorney Chief Innovation experience officer for clarification I understand some of the question uh what is proposed in front of you is the bodies that already exist appointing from their existing membership so the three boards would be arts and culture Financial advisory and the parks and rec commission right and but don't they have to make a they do need to make a recommendation yes so that's part of what we're hoping that Council if they approve this today this would be on their agendas for the month of April ideally if not then we'd be looking at May one question I would ask to the attorneys based off some of the direction from Council is do we have an option for them to forego the existing resolution while adopting this one for the future so do the staff recommendation and then bring forward or approve this resolution for next year what what could you clarify because I'm not even sure I understand thank you it sounded as if my understanding counsel is proposing one option would be to have staff make a recommendation for this fiscal year in order to get the monies out sooner that is correct so that would be my question to the attorneys we do have a resolution in place currently can Council make a motion based off how we're agenda is today yeah and for the record John shipment I'm not seeing that I'm seeing it's it's a ticket or leave it on the on the resolution so I mean we could bring a resolution back at the next meeting to do that or we could modify this resolution at the next meeting we we can't modify it today with word well just to update the sponsorship membership and the steps required for sponsorship approval by the council right yes uh yes what is your timing because you I mean I was surprised a couple weeks ago that you said the money that we sent for this FY has been kind of held and going to encumber it for that staff person so how much money is to get out budgeted from this FY two hundred thousand two hundred thousand what was your plan for releasing the announcement the call for special projects is that has that been announced yet call for special projects or call the the application application application process has been held pending the approval from Council because again the resolution that's in place is Antiquated we don't have a way to enforce it so we're looking for that change in Direction okay so Madam mayor what I'm wondering is could we and and council member seem to be going here for this year we're already so late it's April and we still haven't even asked people to apply for money we have two hundred thousand dollars to spend before July for events could we speed this up by just having staff open up the application process sorting through who qualifies who doesn't give us a comparative of what they might have got last year zero a hundred thousand to two dollars whatever and make recommendations to us and us vote so we could get this money distributed rather than going we're proposing no no no go ahead I would love to hear from Eric you have been like this has been like what you've been eating sleeping and drinking the last month I know that so give it tell us what you think makes the most sense again Eric I don't watch the record admittedly Ashley has a lot of history and we've tag teamed on this to to bring this to to bear um we do believe that this is the right solution now and the right solution long term to create a sponsorship a sponsorship allocation committee that will bring these bring these applications to council for approval and when you look at them how often are they going to meet probably once yeah hope hopefully once once a year correct also let me ask you this now I'm really gonna confuse us and everyone's gonna love me for this but what happens whenever like the city wants to support something but it's already been past the time of the sponsorship allocation because and I listen and I hate to say this about staff but staff is going to say to the the event oh I'm sorry you missed the deadline and then they're gonna wait all year I mean we should be able to Pivot when we need to and support the the events that we want to when when they happen or whenever um what we want to and when they are happening hey I think with a smaller committee we could it has historically met once a year I think we could meet more often typically our event season is May through May through September that's when the Lion's Share if not almost all is um is allocated out we could meet more often and I think with a smaller group um that would be more Nimble we could meet him on a more regular basis also remember that these are these are credits against city services we're not handing checks out so oftentimes I shouldn't say oftentimes but there are times where we estimate we award and then they don't use those services so there can be some flux in the uh you know in the dollars as well so we could meet more more often okay um and true those numbers up to to do more and I think that's important note there's it's not like here we're giving you a check for five grand right it is important I'd also note though to to the concern that you raised one possible outcome here is that um we make a policy decision either as as this body or recommending from the subcommittee that we hold some amount of that bucket back um for for special events that don't show up on that ordinary cycle and I think that um the work that you've asked us to undertake that we'll be bringing back in May with respect to better understanding some of the challenges of our smaller special events will give us an idea of sort of what the scale of that sort of need might look like okay and so that that's an opportunity that I don't believe has been previously explored by by that group either so okay wait wait hold on a second we got it moving we have an agenda to be totally fair everybody was just talking at the same time so I would say at this point everybody has used one round Council women breakfast yeah three minutes yeah and then we're gonna vote yeah I do agree with the manager um that there should be some holdback ability um but I think to to get there we really need to understand all how it's working what comes up and share what we hear you know and maybe we want to allocate it to each Ward or you know make those be a vote of the council or give some parameters to the manager to the have those ones come up mid-year second um because it's not checks out to you know people but it's you know for City Services that are delivered I think Council really needs to have an understanding of what city services are being delivered particularly if those are police over time um that's that's just critical that's just critical and there's a long history of that and concerns you know really that it strips patrols the third point and I wanted to understand is do you feel that this 200 000 isn't that much that you were going to maybe marry it out in one application process with the money that comes due July one we because because then that would that would make it you know more a more involved process and I do like the idea though of it staying at the council for now um you know with whatever reform we're working on was that what you're thinking or were you just going to do the 200 000 because what's in the budget for next year there's 200 000 in this current fiscal year and then there would be contemplated 200 000 in the next we did not think about Mary and that was not part of the conversation at the moment because we have all next summer for that next cycle yeah I'm ready to make emotions to recommend that we adopt the resolution effective date of July 1 to give all the members time to make all the appointments and get the committee together it doesn't have to be July 1 but you know that's when the committee would take place for this year we would waive this process because in the interests of expediency you would open the applications take everything evaluate it make recommendations to council and let us vote so that we can get this money distributed okay does that make it gonna be a timeline so no no he's saying you can't what why so what I mean you the challenge here is that you're you're kind of locked into what this agenda title says and everything that you've talked about is kind of a parallel process that is not mentioned anywhere in no I'm approving this yes but then everything else that you've talked about all I'm saying is that we are at April no I get I get that I don't know how to begin events in May with money and right unless we expedite this process and bring the applications together and that's fine that's great Direction but it needs to have an item on the agenda to give the city staff that direction and that is what we lack today so to the extent that you make that as a motion it's outside the scope of this agenda item and it's potentially a violation of the open meeting law so what we request is I mean yeah Pat I mean you can adopt the resolution that gives the staff time and then if you want to do another item okay at the next meeting why don't I just make a motion to adopt the resolution yeah well I'll do that I mean I was fine with that yes so I'll I'll adopt the resolution um second woman do or will second all those in favor say say aye yeah I'm not okay go ahead councilman record it okay one minute it's we're missing an opportunity to really go deep into an area that takes up a lot of bandwidth as someone who sat on that subcommittee another point is this this sponsorship wants to pull a member from the Reno arts and culture commission which I'm now the liaison and learning and they're having a hard time even populating their subcommittee and so asking them to come in to on to another subcommittee taxes that body I think a little bit more than they needed need to be I think a preference would have been to keep it at the city council subcommittee because you know it is when you go through budget this is the council's money this is and the council now is delegating it off to committee members I just don't think it's a good idea no it comes back to this yeah we're going to make the decision expectations are there that you know people I I think that um it's hard to go away from those recommendations but I I do want to include Doug I would like to ask that you also bring this back uh in May when we talk about special events and what they look like just in that whole realm of what is the best way that the council can be involved in special events and helping all special events and so that they don't end up getting hijacked by a subcommittee we see that a lot yeah I think that we can do that I mean you well know that we've had a conversation here about how we can better support some of the smaller special events and yeah you know from where that support might come yes perfect awesome okay I'm a motion I'm a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries okay moving right along we are 45 Madam clerk okay um Madame mayor I pulled this with the hopes that um the requester would be here she's not I'll just make the comment okay for future consideration by special events committee that they start thinking about sponsoring smaller events local events uh startup events uh to get funding versus and balance it somehow with the Legacy events so I want Council to think about that that's why I wanted to discuss the item but I'll make a motion to approve item b45 all right thank you I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries okay 49 yeah I pulled this agenda item just because there was public comment and um the executive director of Latino artem Cultura was here so I just wanted to give them a shout out and say that I appreciate all the work that they have been doing um and hopefully they continue to work towards that um bilingual programming that they've been focused on so um if any of you ever get a chance to attend any of their events I highly recommend you attending and participating in that okay that's all I had with that we'll go ahead and motion to approve agenda item b49 thank you so much I have a motion second Martinez the second from councilman doer all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries um I was wondering if we could do a reconsideration on nine I thought someone would have pulled it is it nine B9 within like all these things uh nine it is Metro Mart I think from there and I was curious and I don't think he's here but I was gonna ask Mr Woodley when um or maybe Mr manager you would know when are we bringing back the safe scapes uh because you know looking at these privileged licenses we talked about that and especially you know I get concerned I drove by the other day there's bars on the Windows um and then I think councilman breakfast you also had some concerns when we saw this Market I believe yeah but those were answered for me okay or uh go ahead Miss tourney tell me when we're looking at safe Scapes safescapes will go into effect we're still in the intermediary process where the ordinance has gone into effect or any new businesses but existing businesses do have a little bit more time to come into conformance okay but we're moving forward we're moving forward that's correct with the direction from this Council adoption of those ordinances all new businesses are subject to those okay and I guess the warning is comply correct that is exactly so taking it serious yes so they will need to comply with the existing ordinances if they don't at such time that we hit the official date which I want to say it on the record because I don't remember if it's July or January okay okay it's coming soon and so when we hit that point those businesses who are not in compliance we will begin the compliance process which will include citations as necessary in accordance with our code all right thank you so much I would like to make a motion to accept item B9 I think we approved it so if you're oh yeah I did okay well then we don't have to do anything right right Carl City attorney says yes okay we're gonna go by his word all right moving right along Madam Clerk I think wow that's a lot of consent items it was sweet we did it now moving on to item D1 D is in David one city attorney's office all right I'm gonna send it over to you Carl Hall oh I have a disclosure on this oh go ahead councilwoman breakfast yeah Madame mayor fellow city council members of Madam clerk in the interest of whole transparency on item D1 I'm disclosing that I'm a former client of Mr Luke Busby the attorney representing the petitioner in Conrad at all via City of Reno at all case number cv22 hyphen 01263 on this matter of sought guidance from the city attorney's office I retained Mr Busby to handle the legal matter related to my candidacy for public office in 2022. that matter is concluded I paid Mr Busby for his Services based on his standard and customary rate he is currently not performing any legal services for me and I do not expect to retain him in the foreseeable future in short I'm a former client not a Kerner prospective client as a result I've advised that I did do not have a quote substantial and continuing business relationship end quote with Mr Busby nor a commitment in a private capacity to the interest of Mr Busby in consultation with the city attorney's office I do not believe that the independence of a judgment of a reasonable person in my situation would be material affected by the fact that I'm a former client of Mr Busby I will be voting on these items today Madam clerk please accept this disclosure and lodging on the record for this meeting pertaining to these agenda items thank you okay thank you so much okay wait so I'm confused uh to her disclosure and Mr Busby this is a confused now this is a different item what does that mean can maybe you can express real quickly uh so Luke Busby Mr Busby is the attorney for Mr Conrad in this case uh Conrad at all versus the City of Reno at all case number CVO dude okay yeah so to the extent that there is no relationship there uh council member breckers was putting that on the record just to make it clear that I mean I think there was potentially oh okay so he represents this Conrad he represents Conrad okay okay all right all right okay all right got it now I I understand you know Bob Conrad I didn't realize no is that this is oh this is Bob okay he didn't know okay so Bob has an attorney Mr Busby okay I got now I got it now it makes sense I just sort of read Everett as Conrad and I'm thinking what does Mr Busby have to do with this okay anyway and and if if you if I may your honor um yeah so the city attorney's office is just here to request the authority to appeal the second judicial's order regarding a portion of the order which um the judge indicated that we failed to provide records to Mr Conrad we have a different position on that um I can't really get into the the substance of the arguments those will all be put into the um on appeal at this point in time Mr Busby has in fact filed a notice of appeal on this so for the nine items that the city prevailed on he will be um uh challenging that on appeal and the one item that we um the city did not uh Prevail on we're just asking permission to appeal that okay anyway that's that's it and if there's specifics about the arguments no I appreciate it like I said I didn't understand what happened what did Mr Busby have to do with this I was wondering why Jenny was disclosing I just think it's funny it's small It's a Small World all right uh okay moving on so any discussion yeah go ahead councilman breakfast I don't know why we have to peel this decision I mean transparency is a value let's just give this record show you know the other side is appeal great will defend but why do we have to peel this let's just give them the record and the record and I recognize the sensitivity of this because some of the records in question are those that are pertaining to individual members this one pertains to the mayor and there's others that are pertain to Mr Reese and then there's others that pertain to the Reno Police Department as as I understand and recall it so with this one you know the irony to me is we can't deliver the public record which was something that was given out anyway let's just give that to them show a good faith effort that we've given it to them I don't care how it comes about but let's do it and not appeal that is why I am uncomfortable with this now I don't know and they don't have a draft brief but I want to be very clear on the other elements of a record because I don't want the city to be doing a filing on a understanding of a record where I am have a different position and those are what I understand are Communications that Mr Reese made in the scope of conducting City business through other platforms maybe it's next door maybe it's Facebook maybe it's Instagram I don't know I know that I have used other platforms particularly a sub stack platform and on those which are all up there right now I had a standard practice of saying this is Jenny this is Jenny's communication but to the degree that this is Con related to City business it this this posting and any communication that may come forward could be a public record so I I approach the world from that perspective and you know maybe we have to defend a different position that the city attorney's office has taken but I don't support that um but this is not about how they defend but I will say publicly how they're defending this I have problems with but this is about the appeal um but if that gets attached into our our appeal brief I want to be clear that I do not view the world that way with respect to the Reno Police Department Records what I have seen from our most recent audit and what I've observed is inconsistency in record production I'm not saying you know this record should have gone this record should have what I'm seeing is all over the place inconsistency and you can't argue you're doing public record um production if you're inconsistent you know because it's either well is it this way or is it that way that's problematic so I have I I think in that scope is produce all the records and get your get your house in order on the records that you produce for ongoing investigation matters which I think are problematic frankly so I want to not support the appeal whatever the mayor gave out to all these Mayors give one of those to Mr Busby or Mr Conrad and don't appeal if we have to defend that's fine but um you'll be defending in inconsistent with how I view the open the the public records of law thank you all right thank you go ahead uh councilwoman uh doer go ahead I don't know if other members want to speak to this I want to say that in the first part I agree with councilwoman breakfast uh we we lost that item we should give them the record we should not spend time appealing that I think we should focus our time and attention on uh defending the appeal that um they have filed and that's where I think we should put our effort so I'm not going to support um appealing the one issue that we lost and here's what I'd say I think councilman breakfast you bring up some really good points when it comes to police records I I think I mean I don't well we have new members so I can't really say that but I think most of us have have been very frustrated with that process how long it's taking because then it erodes the public support and that roads the Public's Trust of what we do up here so that I think absolutely hands down and I will say I think um there's been some really good changes and I'm hoping to see that that is going to become very beneficial to sort of this conversation um and that's their job to call us out whenever we're not giving that information in a timely manner and if something like super super tragic happens I might be the first one to be like you release that and you release it now because I think that's where a lot of bodies get in trouble is whenever they're delaying releasing information because it looks like you're hiding something so give it to them and be done with it right and then the other issue whatever the you know the nft is you know my thought and and it was through the conference of just hey they're coming to Reno you want them to have like you know something of like artwork or something like a t-shirt in the sense of like here's the biggest little city we're really proud of it um I was really proud of it I'm proud of the whale proud of the Arts I'm proud of all the all the murals one thing that people could take away uh Mayors particularly to their cities to say hey Reno's kind of innovative and they've got great um arts and culture and I wanted to share that with people um if there's anything on my end that uh we have absolutely 100 give it um I don't think we should appeal um I think that's ridiculous again uh and also Mr Conrad he's probably watching this I know you if there's something that you want I will always gladly give it to you we've always had that relationship very open and communicative so um I know we haven't spoken in a long while but um I'm open and transparent so I wasn't aware whenever I looked at this Conrad so um I think of him as Bob yeah anyway okay so Madam mayor I would like to make a motion that we do not Appeal on the issue at which we lost in court I'll second okay so I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed hey motion carries okay moving on Madam Clerk thank you madam mayor we're moving on to item D2 Vicky hello Miss Bianca's back here and you have been so patient all day long over there it's been a long day I know I'm so sorry all right go ahead the floor is yours so uh Vicki Van Buren Director of Finance um Madame mayor and council members before you today um item D2 We have uh a resolution that's pertaining to the issuance of bonds for the purpose of refinancing so um one of our directives in finance is that when we can achieve cost savings through refinancing a bond we bring that forward to council for consideration because it is fiscally responsible if we're able to achieve better rates and achieve some savings so in this case these particular Bonds were issued for the event center and they were issued in April of 2002 and a portion of those 2002 Bonds were refinanced by the 2013 bonds so before you today is a resolution that would allow us to refinance the 2013 bonds these are General obligation bonds and they are secured by additionally secured by pledged revenues and the original issue amount on these was 36.5 million dollars and it's the approximately the balance right now is 28 million dollars remaining these were 20-year bonds and we are at the 10-year Mark so we are actually at the call um timing for these bonds so we have the opportunity at this point to refinance refunding is expected to lower the interest costs and provide the savings and we're looking at probably about two hundred thousand dollars per fiscal year um by refinancing these bonds it would not extend the um maturity date of them so what's being proposed is a sale resolution that would allow me to authorize and arrange the issuance and the sale of the 2023 bonds which would replace these 2013 bonds and for interest rate savings and as again as I mentioned the maturity date on the 2013 bonds is June 1st of 2032 and we would not be extending that it would be the same 10 years we're just looking for a lower interest rate um and so stocks recommending that Council adopt the resolution and we move forward with those uh the bond okay Council on breakfast I know yeah I I I've sat up here long enough with her that I know this is her bailiwick so go ahead councilman Brecken I mean to my colleagues think about this we have a bond that has been out there for 10 years original issuance was 36 million and you still have a 28 million principle on it that's that's not wearing down your debts that's not good and just so everyone knows let's talk about what other bond is behind this on these same properties that's the there's another set of bonds correct there are there's the the 2019 bonds and what's the principle on those those are the uh 2019 a bonds um they're large about 80 million 80 million so when we think about the bowling the ballroom and the Ben Center know that you're sitting on 120 10 million dollars of debt that is backed by the general fund you know that's just like a huge concept I am comfortable with this but I I want to understand the timing because I don't want them to go out more than 10 years you said that but the resolution says to kind of doesn't really get to that it says other economies of efficiency plus how long is this get to Market resolution available for you know could it be you know three years from now and then you can go up for 10 more years and you can kind of you you know we can sneak in three more years of lag time on that three more years on that when when does this resolution expire your authority to place these thank you for that question well if Council approves this today we would bring back an ordinance that would set out the terms of what we were looking at and so it would not go beyond the 10 years we're only looking at that and we would have until November to hit the market okay at the perfect timing so as you know the interest rates right now are kind of fluctuating a little bit but we do believe we can get at least a one percent change in interest which would create the savings and so over that time frame we would issue the bonds when the market was um financially feasible for us to do that I can understand that I just don't want to push out any more debt you know we pushed out debt on a lot of the early restructurings but this is not time to be pushing out debt particularly Geo bonded and I you know I wish we could see if we could relieve ourselves of the Geo Bond backing uh you know to provide protect the general fund because it's not protected but I am comfortable moving forward to this step and I'll look for the ordinance coming forward with all the you know the more detail on that mayor uh I'd like to make a motion if no one else has like to make a motion to approve item D2 to refinance a certain outstanding bonds with the city second okay I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously okay thank you madam clerk sending it to you are are you staying up here Vic I'm saying I got one more okay never mind stay here item D3 Vicki Van Buren Vicki Van Buren for the record Director of Finance and I do have a very brief presentation on this this is the resolution to augment the fiscal year 2223 budget for the period of January 1 through March 31 of 2023 so it's for the third quarter of this fiscal year uh they're not a lot of items on this augmentation there are just a few uh grants so we have police fire and Parks grants that are on this augmentation and then we also have a special events reimbursement and they would like to purchase some equipment with that money from that reimbursement and then the other items are updates that we're doing for Budget items that Council has already approved previously so we're just including them in this augmentation and then we have the closeout of a retract debt fund and that was for the 2014 tax leave debt and tax lease debt and that actually paid off in 2022 and so we're just closing out that fund it does have lease revenues that go into that fund so we're closing it out so those funds will now go into the capital account for the retract so those can be those funds can be used for Capital at that point because the debt is now paid off any other items that we have on here are just revisions so those are just transfers between the line items to align the budget to where the expenses need to be and there's no increase to the overall budget for those items the third quarter augmentation is usually the least involved and I appreciate that but I do have some questions first of all and it may get into that one point you made about the retract there was a reference to the retract maintenance fund correct is that what this new thing you're setting up no we've we've always had the retract maintenance fund because we were required to do maintenance on the retract okay and okay I would like to know and I I really want to know what the parameters for use of that fund is and what the expenditures are as an illustration of that because it's starting to grow more correct this will be the first time really that we're putting real money into it previously it's only had around four hundred thousand dollars in it the bare minimum that we we had to put in there now that the debt is paid off we will have around probably 900 000 in there I do know that there are a backlog of Maintenance items that need to be done on retract I have talked to Public Works about it and it's part of that packet that we talked about during the budget session where we have lots of properties and things where we need to do maintenance and this is the opportunity that we have to do that now that the debt is done and I'm fine covering it during the during the budget you know CIP thousand dollars to maintain retract over the next year and these are the projects you know I'd love to take care of that but I just don't want it to be a fun that I see on accounts payable being paid out money here here that is a real problem for me um just because you know that's our job is to keep an eye on the the purse now the fire fees there was there was a inclusion in there of fire fees is that true you got some uh striking reimbursement oh those were Strike Team gotcha because I am focusing and I I have not had the satisfaction of the answer on are we billing people for Hospital trips you know how that's working I still that's a still big question for me and then you've got the capital fund operating transfers we're higher where are you taking the transfers from for your Capital the capital fund page are you on um I don't know what page that was um I'll tell you what I'll take this one offline because we've moved so much quicker in preparation for budget workshops okay thank you very much I'll make the motion um it seems to me I mean could you just explain about closing out the retract you say we paid it I want to make sure I understand accurately could you just explain are we done with retract I thought no on this particular debt was yeah and thank you for the question it's this particular debt was a revenue debt and it was based on lease revenue and so it had its own fund I got you that paid for that debt and so now that that debt is paid off that fund can close out because it was based on um I don't know what a lease fund is so lease Revenue the least revenue from the Union Pacific goes they're releasing Land from the tracks land from us correctly continue to at least right and that money will go into now the capital account for maintenance correct and sales too sales of property you can go into that fund too if if that's what council chooses yes yeah okay okay all right so I had a motion from councilwoman breakfast the second from councilwoman doer all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously okay thank you all right D5 comment I'm sure you would have told me no public comment okay Megan take it away or is yours all right good evening just about mayor city council Megan Berner arts and culture manager for the record um this is a super exciting item that we have before you today I wanted to start just by explaining this slide this is an image of a public artwork by Dan Corson who's a seattle-based artist he was awarded this commission for a Bart station in San Francisco this piece is titled shifting topographies um the inspiration for this began with the shifting patterns and colors of the Rolling Oakland Hills and at the macro scale the ripples of the adjacent San Francisco Bay other Inspirations came from the flashy paint jobs in the car culture of the community and the signature blue BART station for which the art marks the entrance it uses color shifting paint but changes throughout the day depending on the angle of the Sun and it's lit with projected patterns of color and light at night I just loved how I thought it was a great example of how it was very responsive to the environment as well as the community and the place that it is situated in so what you have before you is the discussion and potential approval of Moanna Springs Community Aquatics and fitness center public art project um this slide here um so let me backtrack just a little bit the reason I think this is so exciting is that it's the largest amount of funding that we have put into artwork in one location and in the in 20 years this is a big deal this is a real opportunity to engage with creative Place making and we heard from um Amy earlier about placemaking and what that is so the creative Place making uses arts and culture to strategically shape physical and social character of a place so this is a real opportunity I think to do that and work with artists that can work with the community and all of us to Envision something really incredible for this facility on this slide here shows the process for public art projects as approved by the city council in 2009 we're at the very beginning of this Arrow on the left side the little orange dot this process was an update to the policies and guidelines attached to the public art master plan which are an addendum to RMC title 22. and that is our public art code in the city code so included in the policies and guidelines and this update are very specific guidelines that emphasize Community engagement as part of the process so what we're doing today is approving a call for artists we're not selecting the artist and we are not selecting the artwork today um I wanted to go over some of the highlights in the call for artists the first thing is that this will go out in the form of an RFQ rfqs are considered best practice because they are more efficient and more effective in producing high quality public artworks and they're seen as being more fair to artists than a request for proposals this also allows for genuine public input to happen before the concept for the artwork is created the call is open to artists and artist teams and artist-led design teams I want to emphasize that because we want to ensure that we are hiring artists for this Commission I also want to emphasize that the call includes multiple opportunities for community and stakeholder engagement including the public staff and council members and allows for the artists to work with staff the architect and Engineers to ensure the best possible outcome so this again is following the process that the city council adopted for public art projects of this scope in the public art master plan and the process and guidelines they're in this also follows best practices for Community engagement and allows the artist to work with the community to create something that is truly responsive to the site and the input received so essentially the project will be driven by input from stakeholders in the community and then lastly our second to last the public art committee and the Reno arts and culture commission have given their input on this call so their recommendations are included in the call that was attached attached to the staff report and then finally the call specifies multiple locations for artwork so staff is recommending that the call for artists and subsequent award require multiple artworks for the site due to the amount of funding the potential spaces for artwork and the opportunity to create a cohesive and overarching vision for the facility so we will hire one artist team to design all of the various artwork um so that it has that cohesiveness this is really an opportunity to create art across the facility and the grounds that function together create a sense of space or a place excuse me and speak to the community so I'm going to show you really quickly the main areas that have been identified for artwork placement they include on this overview Slide the parking grounds front North facade the entrance Lobby the main Corridor that leads to the pools and the locker rooms and the outdoor soaking pool and here are some slides that show those locations in more detail so in the Forefront of this you can see the parks and Gran the parking grounds and then the front facade the outdoor soaking pool south facing that interior Corridor that looks like it could really use some something to brighten it up and then I wanted to talk about the budget um RMC or Reno Municipal Code title 22 requires that Appropriations for eligible construction projects shall include an amount equal to two percent of the total eligible project costs to be used for artist Design Services and selection acquisition display and maintenance of artworks so the amount set aside for public art at the Moana Springs Community Aquatics and fitness centers seven hundred thousand dollars however part of the code also specifies that an amount equal to 15 percent of the public art allocation for the project be set aside for administrative administration of the project and that includes Community engagement and participation activities for artist selection design and proposal costs publicity Community Education activities and other purposes is made deemed appropriate by the arts and culture Commission an amount equal to 10 percent is also required in code to be taken out for the um for the preservation and maintenance of works of art in the public art collection so therefore you'll see that the call for artists specifies that the total allocation for public artwork that we're asking for in the budget for the call for artists is 525 thousand dollars and with that um there's the recommendation and I'm happy to answer any questions thank you very much I appreciate it I'm going to send it to councilwoman door yep it's her word thanks so please go ahead two questions uh Megan and I had a chance to talk to you offline but um my first question is you mentioned lots of public input and that's when you say Council would also have input when when is that could you go back to your timeline and just tell us when is it before we issue the call is it uh no so the call for artist goes out as an RFQ okay so it's a request for qualifications yes um so we're looking at past artwork artists that have done projects of the size and scope they will also address Community engagement and working with stakeholders in that that then you'll see the second Point there's a selection three to five finalist community and stakeholder input will be a part of that before those three to five finalists are selected and then there's pretty extensive Community engagement sessions with those finalists okay and they'll get input from okay very good and then the second question was you know where you say specifies multiple locations could you go to your chart of the locations yes sorry yeah right there so I just wanted to share and I shared this with Megan and with Eric that um during the pool design process our former Parks director Jamie Schroeder talked frequently about putting a piece of art back in the hot soaking area which is to the lower left on this picture which is really facing west and she had proposed at that time something along the line some kind of water feature to be incorporated to basically screen from sound children playing in the children's pool or the the mid-sized pool whistles I guess off the other pool let's say it's practice for competition that kind of thing so I'd love to I still think her idea is great and um I see that you have that as one possible location so it could be visual art but it could also incorporate some kind of movement or some kind of water when when would we give that guidance or thoughts to these people so I think during those um the input session for the three to five finalists well there will be multiple sessions but during that the first one is where I think that we would want the community and counsel and everybody else to present sort of ideas yeah things that they would like the artist to consider before they come up with sort of a presentation of Concepts second thing is the corridor art where you have it sort of back in the back there um so one of the things I was hoping is that we would have some history and explanation about the site the this site has been used for over a hundred years for bathing geothermal usage a whole different designs it was a spa you know it was a regional draw and my original hope had been that we could put something in the lobby that would talk about that I don't see one of your yellow stickers in the lobby um it is actually there's an arrow to it but yeah it's it is identified as one of the sites sorry for interrupting so the yellow that looks like it's outside is not outside yeah if there's an arrow kind of pointing down and it says entrance Lobby I don't have a slide of that though okay well I misunderstood I like the idea of having something outside the front door too what can I say I really think that's cool the last piece is the one that's out in the parking lot I would love to see that either integrated into the kitty playground area maybe there's an arrow there too and I just can't see it or and or um off you know we have the entire soccer field which is part of this site too so I just we may end up needing six you know I don't know if that works come over okay thank you yeah so I'm the new arts and culture liaison but I definitely um represent that others who have served in that capacity know more about the process than I I think there's three of you have served in that role before um but this is you know territory we haven't gone to any of us because it's big of course and I was bringing up at the arts and culture commission and and you know corrected or schooled that um no this is the way we should do it but um I still I wanted my vision was that we hire a public art consultant to pick out the distinct locations and particularly what sort of features should be there so Ms Stewart mentioned in that kitty area something it would be you know a specification for a sculptural piece there um that you know maybe some parameter of has some historic reference or interpretive uh in the corridor you know they're um you know wall hangings covering you know this area I thought that we would go dial it down to each piece where we wanted Pieces come up with a budget for each of those and then just call and and for the artist specifically but what I understand is being done is you know we are we're not really hiring artists we're hiring an Arts firm that then hires artists and I I didn't I I I'm a little I have troubles with that I thought let's hire a consultant to say these are the art pieces we want these are where they go this is the budget for each of them you know based upon this Consultants business and then hire the artist directly that's how I thought we would go but I was told no we're not going that way that's not the way the recommendations come I wish it was because we have the two percent so wait a minute I'm confused so wait so now we have a we have a consultant can I clarify yeah will you please that is not entirely correct okay we are hiring artists that's this specifies that it has to be an artist-led design team for projects of the size even projects that we've done before it's not uncommon for artists to work with Fabricators or they have to work with Engineers for example things like that and so that's kind of where that language comes we would not be hiring a firm that would then hire artists hiring is not it's not all the artwork themselves are they they would be the creative Visionaries and they would yes essentially yes they would be creating all of the artwork so a sculpture is also a you know does wall hanging this they work in both media so there's also a specification for artist teams so generally with something like this there would be multiple artists working together but the idea of that is that it would be a unified vision for the entire facility yeah because I would think some scale of art is just too large where it's like you can't really do one person and then you might need to bring in a carry Koski to help you get it done right yeah okay all right um councilman Ebert go ahead I had a question um so it says in the qualifications and eligibility that the applicants must reside in the United States is there any way we can put that a specification or qualification that they have to reside in Nevada or Northern Nevada or Reno just to kind of you know encourage participation for a more local artists so um we can restrict these geographically um typically however best practice is that we leave these open to all artists to allow the widest inclusion of experienced and qualified professionals um I would also say that we that would still be open to our Reno and Nevada artists and we would definitely encourage them to apply I think if you start restricting projects geographically that sets a precedent that encourages other cities to do the same thing and I think then it restricts artists from being able to practice their profession including our local artists so I don't think we would want to see them denied opportunities elsewhere um because they're a geographic restrictions to calls and I can talk about how you reach out to the public because I cringe if I hear artists aren't getting these opportunities especially locally can you just sure yeah so we do a lot of like social media artist newsletter type of posting we share with organizations and the community so that they can help get those out through their channels we talk to people that we know that are involved in the Arts community and make sure that they know that the opportunities are there and that they should apply yeah we also have our own social media channels it's art specific yes okay I just want to make sure we have good connections to many of our local artists and I I do think that they really learn from going through these processes when it's National calls and things like that because you know we do award many awards to local artists sometimes we don't have artists here maybe that have the experience or expertise that we're looking for potentially for some projects but I also think that they would want to know that they were considered out of yeah a large pool would know that they're competitive and have that confidence to go do competitions Nationwide Madam mayor go ahead oh well no sorry go ahead councilwomanie Burke that was it thank you all right uh any other questions from from uh councilman Martinez and councilwoman Taylor no okay go ahead councilwoman breakfast you know public participation puts really important to me but it's not merited all the time and I'm really trying to understand what you're thinking about in this public engagement process because I understand that artists go off and do their art and they're not influenced by um you know I think we should have um you know waterfall here or this you know so what what what in your mind is this public engagement process component gonna look like when does it come in so we have actually done this with some of our other public art projects um I'll use Midtown as an example just because there was pretty heavy Community engagement there were in-person meetings um when the final the finalist artists that are selected will come visit and they will do in-person meetings and so um what they'll do is they'll present some of their work their past work and talk about their strategies for working with the community and then the community can ask them questions and give them input on what they'd like to see on things like um what their connection to the places or the community things that keywords so if you have the RQ you bring in the top three finalists for a you know in in-person visit there'd be a meet and greet with them where the public could sit in this audience and ask each of them these kind of questions and then that would inform those who are the Raiders or recommending to this body who scores the highest is that correct no so then the artist would actually create a concept sketch after all of the community input sessions so they would take that input and they would propose artwork for the spaces and then there would be there would be another um public input session for that so they would present their final proposals or their sketches of what they're proposing for the artwork their concept and then the community could give input on that and then from all of that we would select one Artist Artist team to move forward with the project and then the artwork would still continue to be developed and this sketch is it going to be of 10 different locations or is it just one represented a piece I mean that's that's why what I'm really hung up on is you know having it all be inclusive of the whole site rather than the um you know the the wall hanging in the on the facade so I think we're asking them to consider these five locations in that call they have a budget to work with and so if they think they can do more spaces they're welcome to propose that or Within These Community sessions and feedback from this body we may decide that you know one of these sites shouldn't get artwork and then the artist can respond to that but we need to give them some information up front about the scope of this okay okay just make a motion um and a quick question you said I mean someone decided yellow stickies on this map who was that that was me is that terrible because you can't read it well no it doesn't play it's not terrible at all I just wanted to know I I feel like a little challenge to me by saying I'd like to see a yellow sticky move 10 feet but at the same time you have selected it by yourself so I think you know it's appropriate now especially since we have arrows I understand where they're going better to clear like that Arrow that's pointing at that spot is not the exact location that we're saying the artwork should go right here but it's this General space in general each of these yeah this is the space in general I got it so I'm comfortable with that so let's make a motion uh that is uh approve let me make a motion let me just find the thing D5 let me make a motion to um accept or approve the public art project timeline and call for artists in the mount not to exceed 700 000. I have a motion and a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimous and on the timeline what was the end date I didn't no I didn't have to really grasp that in the call for artists so we're hoping that this will coincide with the construction completion of the building which will be it's projected to be um August 2024. yeah okay good okay thank you okay great job Megan thank you okay Madam clerk I believe we're heading over to item e and actually F1 am I right item F1 ordinance okay or I'm sorry Bill adoption to be read by the City attorney I'm going to send it over to uh Carl Hall but before I do that um do we have any public comment we do not have any public comments okay thank you so much uh Carl Hall take it away amen ordinance adoption ordinance number 6651 ordinance amending Reno Municipal Code title 12 and title Public Works and utilities chapter 12.16 Sewer Service section 12.16.150 weighted fixture unit scheduled to adjust the fixture unit schedule for the 2018 uniform plumbing code section 12.16.280 connection fee as the timing of payment and section 12.16.290 dwelling unit or residential unit to refer to section 12.16.150 as to the weighted fixture unit schedule together with matters which pertain to or are necessarily connected there too all right thank you so much um any discussion by Council that there are none all those in favor say aye do you want a motion oh sorry sorry all right I'll make a motion to approve item F1 okay go ahead F1 approved please [Laughter] and the second all those in favor say aye aye post promotion care no okay thank you moving on F2 F2 uh sending it back to uh Carl Hall again ordinance adoption ordinance number 6652 case number LDC 23-00029 3655 Warren Way rezoning request for a zoning map Amendment from single family residential three units per acre sf3 to multi-family residential 14 units per acre mf-14 and plus and minus one acre project site is located on the west side of Warren Way plus or minus 425 feet south of its intersection with West Moana Lane the site has a master plan land use designation of Civilian excuses SMU word two all right thank you so much public comments non-registered all right thank you may get a motion motion to approve item F2 all right I have a motion from councilwoman Doer I have a second from councilwoman Taylor all those in favor say aye aye who's opposed motion carries all right item G1 Madam Clerk this is Staff report discussion and potential appointment of one individual to The e911 Advisory Board from the following pool of applicants listed in alphabetical order all right Madame clerk any public comment non-registered all right may get a motion to accept Chief ancho I have a motion from uh councilman Taylor a second from councilman Martinez all those in favor say aye aye aye all those in post motion carries okay item G2 yeah Madame mayor um I would like to continue this item until the next meeting I almost completed all the interviews not quite there yet but I would like it I I was confused the last time we continued both you and I it continued two meetings not one and I wondered if we could just continue this two weeks to the next meeting okay I would just ask our city manager is that possible can I just chime in here for just a moment um I do believe councilmember door that you do have additional applications but this time if you would just like to withdraw this item and then we can bring it back with those additional oh fine if we have more people to interview that's fine I think at least then you have the full list of individuals rather than just carrying over the same list perfect so with when would you like to bring that back well I just need a motion to withdraw this and then I think I can connect a motion to withdraw to bring back and re-agendize with current applications for the next meeting and I think we can connect with Megan to make sure that you have all the applications you need thank you okay thank you all right and you don't need any action correct all right you don't need a motion to withdraw or you can okay motion to withdraw and re-agendize this at the next meeting with the new pile of applicants great thank you I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries all right item G3 and I would like to make the motion do you have any public comment Madam clerk I don't have any public comment but I do need to make a correction to the staff report um NRS does state that this needs to be to fill the term of council member Delgado and so with that in mind um the expiration of this appointment will actually be March 31st 2025 instead of how it is listed in the agenda item okay thank you I would like to make a motion to appoint councilwoman Taylor I have a motion motion to appoint councilmember Taylor or do you want me to Second yes second oh I'll second that I have a motion a second to all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed aye motion carries okay item H1 uh any announcements from Council on boards or commissions any updates nothing okay [Music] um yeah no councilwoman doer yes this is for comments under each one okay is that correct yes okay I just wanted to say I I wanted to alert the council that I've run into an issue in my ward which is the erection of tall buildings near I-8 uh sorry 580 i-580. 395. and I observed it since I observed it many people have commented to me I've had briefings by staff I'm going to ask I just wanted to let you all know I'm going to send a memo to the manager asking him for two hours of Staff time to prepare an item to potentially consider uh changing special Corridor regulations for this area after I get the data depending what the data shows so until I just wanted to alert you I'm going to send them a memo and it's a work product and there may need to be a moratorium if we do move through to do something then we may have to do like what we've done with signs liquor uh adult businesses we may have to put in a temporary moratorium while the staff but I don't know if we're there yet so I just wanted to let you know all right thank you okay anyone else councilman Ebert anyone no okay uh then we don't need to vote on that and so next uh we will see you at all of us at the public hearing it's six so in 30 minutes we'll be back okay thanks everyone are you are you ready to go thank you Madam Clerk you're good we are Madame mayor if you're ready to reconvene it is 6 p.m and at this time it appears that councilmember Ebert councilmember door and councilmember Reese are not present all right I still have a quorum you do breakfast Martinez Taylor and myself so we'll start uh at this time Madame clerk I will open the public hearing let the record reflect that the city council is opening the public hearing I just said that um I'd like to also ask Madam clerk was proper notice given and any correspondence receipt Madame mayor proper notice was given we did receive correspondence um let me pull that up we received one letter of opposition one letter of concern and additionally we did receive one voicemail which has been distributed to the Reno City Council and it appears that we might have a few public commenters that are still signing up um but as far as correspondence wheat that is everything we perceived all right and um before I do that I just want to ask the City attorney do want to read the item do you need to before we take public comments thank you this is case number LDC 23-00035 Greenacres storage appeal of the planning commission's decision to approve a request for one a conditional use permit to establish a 310 unit mini warehouse facility comprised of seven buildings and RV storage and two an alternative equivalent compliance to vary from site landscape requirements the plus or minus 1.85 acre project site is located south of the Terminus of Green Acres Drive the project site is located within mixed U Suburban Ms only district and has a master plan language designation of suburban mixed use SMU an appeal was filed by Tony M May of May Brock Law Group on behalf of their client David T and Judith L Harvey trust city council May affirm modify or reverse the decision of the Planning Commission Ward 2. all right thank you so much at the open the public comment got a mayor our first public commenter and our only public commenter today is Craig Olson okay foreign my name is Craig Olson and I am the applicant I'm the managing member of Green Acres storage partners and I filled out the paperwork to make certain that I could speak to you I'm not certain what the issues are uh uh these people showed up at the meeting for the conditional use permit approval in the first place uh they mentioned that there are issues with the purchase that I made from Nevada Department of Transportation I had a a surveyor come on out and Survey the property in the process of having that done from what I was told by the surveyor Mr Harvey over here and his brother uh told the surveyor to stop coming onto part of my property that I legally purchased and to no longer do survey work there I just had the survey completed the property seems to be exactly what it was I bought from ndot any other issues I guess they'll speak to uh and I'm available for any comments thank you so much thank you no additional public okay thank you I guess Angela or no hi come on sorry didn't see you I hope you're like right in my site there you go well for the presentation below uh good evening Madam mayor and members of the city council my name is Carter Williams I'm the assistant planner with the development services department here at the City of Reno um and before you today um is a request for your considered excuse me consideration of an appeal of the planning commission's approval for a self-storage facility and an alternative equivalent compliance application Michelle I'll explain what that is okay so the project site is located at the end of Green Acres Drive um some businesses that uh are nearby are the Dolan Lexus dealership and the bistro 7 restaurant um to the northeast of this site is the target along uh um South Virginia Street um the project site is a 1.85 acre parcel a budding Interstate i-580 freeway and between that and the Dolan Lexus dealership the appellance property is to the south of the project site off of hop acre place um to describe the specific requests of the conditional use permit before before the Planning Commission for you was to determine whether the use is suitable for the area and the surrounding um and the site and then the surrounding uses and alternative equipment compliance is a process that was implemented in the code to allow for substitution of specific standards for other standards that provide the same or greater benefit to the community so this is for a 310 self storage facility the key issues identified in the staff report were on compatibility with the area and surrounding uses the site design and flood mitigation the property is located within the mixed-use Suburban zoning District which requires a conditional use permit for the establishment of a self storage facility um these uh sorry the request includes also this an application to substitute specific requirements like landscaping and while articulation requirements um for other beneficial beneficial features such as screening along the freeway and pedestrian amenities the property is located within the Suburban mixed-use master plan lab use designation this project site is an underutilized property that is challenging to develop to do its narrowness and length this development is an expansion of the existing an existing business to the north of the site and there are they are implementing specific site design elements such as enhanced pedestrian amenities and Landscaping to add to the visual interest from Green Acres Drive a self-storage project provides the opportunity for the development of a narrow undeveloped parcel its location along South Virginia Street supports capacity for higher density residential development as we see more housing units established in the area the demand for such businesses increases to the west of the site across the i-580 freeway there is a single family there is single family residentially zone property um it is not anticipate that there would be any additional impacts to this um to these properties as this project includes a screen wall uh additional Landscaping abutting the freeway and exist and an existing sound wall on the residential side of the freeway um the purpose of this conditional use permit is to identify whether the use itself is appropriate for the area and to consider potential impacts on adjacent uses many uses such a retail establishments or restaurants would be allowed by right without a public hearing without public notice um and uh a majority actually have commercial and light industrial uses will be allowed without this process so the scope of the planning commission's review was focused on compatibility the image on the screen facing southbound along i-580 the freeway I noted this was an expansion of existing business which is represented there in the lower left-hand Corner the area marked in blue is a landscape strip that was developed at the previously and conditions for this project are being implemented to match that uh that pattern on the project site to the South because the freeway function has the greatest visual impact we prioritize landscaping and screening along this this Frontage I will also note in this graphic that the office building and the original development marked by this blue circle um uh to the north includes a two-story building that is comparable in height to the development that's proposed here um the Dolan Lexus building also as an example directly adjacent to the site is taller than all the surrounding development at 34 feet in height the proposed highest proposed building is 26 feet um with this development the next use Suburban Zone also allows for a maximum height of 55 feet before it becomes it becomes before administrative discretionary review or any public body for review so we go straight to building permit um up to 55 feet in height the eight buildings comprise the site with the building's positions furthest away from the the freeway that's there's a minimum of 31 feet with the fire lane and the required five foot landscape strip so it's pushed the buildings are pushed furthest away um the area marked in green is the location of that five foot landscape strip which um will include a living landscape fence um and again there's that there's a priority for landscaping in this strip for for trees and for screening on the screen before you is a an example of the living landscape fence that was provided by the applicant moving on to the um the architectural features um that we're bearing against as well um the mixed use Zone requires five distinct design features on Street facing facades these elements can include window openings changes in height and changes in color and material um due to the exceptional narrowness of the site the applicant is requesting relief from one of these five design requirements and as well as the use of the walls for Arc features and other elements that add interest to the site in lieu of this fifth design requirement we are have included a condition that adds additional pedestrian amenities between the building facade and Green Acres Drive to enhance that uh that the public Realm this could be public seating artwork fountains or another um element identified by staff the property is located um within the flood zone a area to the South site and a condition has been placed on the project approval that a flood study and updated hydrology report will be required prior to any permit approval demonstrating that no buildings will be built in the flood plain and no um changes to the flood plain will adversely impact surrounding properties the appeal was filed by the David T and Judith L Harvey trust and they contend a number of things I will let the app the appellant go over those specific items but from the city's position the first one that the property portion of the property is land walks we do not agree with this is the specific area they're referring to is a part of the the site of the property that has access up hopper place and many of the um generally these items are either civil issues that need to be handled between the appellant and um certain other agencies and Property Owners or are adequately mitigated by existing code requirements the Planning Commission heard this case at the February 15th Planning Commission hearing and unanimously approved the the K the um the project they noted flood zone concerns private easement concerns and the Appellate representative spoke um at that hearing before you are the findings for a conditional use permit through staff's analysis on the screen we were able to recommend to the Planning Commission that um this project meets all the findings and the Planning Commission agreed um with their unanimous approval this is seven in attendance yes oh yes wow um the alternative equivalent compliance application findings are on the screen as well um so again the Planning Commission unanimously approved the conditional use permit and the alternative clinical compliance and on the screen before you is the recommended motion and I am available after for any questions but I believe that the appellant will be giving a presentation following this okay much and great job I feel I feel for I feel like I've seen you up at the diet the last time I presented was in 2017 so it's been a minute it's been a while great job I have a question though before you go go ahead so can you go pull up the slide presentation I had a few questions on a couple of different wait can we um have the appellant go and then well right now I I would prefer to ask our staff because it's going to make me understand what the apollon is saying okay okay um can you go back a couple slides keep going back um this one this one so both of these so when you say alternative our uh articulation I mean I've been at the site the only people are it's a cul-de-sac the only people there are the people going there so I'm not really sure what what is proposed here so there's um proposes and changes in in height from the building to the wall um the um there's uh the building is pushed back further than other elements which adds some some horizontal interest so it it adds variety along the wall okay well let me ask this the um on the side facing the freeway which is what most people are going to see hundreds more people than on the cul-de-sac is there any articulation on the building there there will be a requirement for articulation up to three standards um in our code and I mentioned like window openings well it's very very long so only three little places or no each building has to have some element on each each facade I mean a little thing like two by three and that's the element or what we have specific standards that um okay the code requires that um okay and then what is the taller building I'm unclear is this replica of the one across the street across the cul-de-sac so if you could go back on these slides no it's it's not a replica no okay right here see the one you've circled in blue are they going to build a second one of those no no um and then secondly or next I had asked you earlier the height of these and I was unclear I thought I went and saw the site and these um these units on the left that are part of the applicant's property two how tall are they did you say oh you're saying the existing ones yeah they are 12 feet 12 feet according to building permits because when we met you said they were the same oh I didn't I didn't have that um information at the time so yeah this other one's going to be twice as high 24 feet but it would be comparable in height to other buildings surrounding the area okay but still this is what I want to know okay so I looked at these and I said this is fine but I wasn't thinking it was actually twice as tall as these so I just wanted to make sure I understood yes okay and then you Circle the building and how tall is that supposed to be that that according to building permits it is 23 feet in height so that's about how high these other storage units are going to be correct and do they do you know and I I will ask the applicant later do they have to be that high like what are we trying to store so you don't need to answer but if you could go back one more slide um I I want to understand are they talking about putting this on fill the 24 feet is it built on top of a couple feet of fill or is it at ground level so with with that updated hydrology report we'll have more information as to the the um the changes in elevation that are required because that would put the buildings potentially like 30 feet tall right yes it's on top of four feet of fill yes but the so as just a for with the 580 Freeway as it goes It goes south it actually does increase in height so there there is a change in elevation it was higher at the South End that the North End and that would be the area where there would need to be flood mitigation to build it so what you're saying is the area where the blue and several slides back where the blue intersects the green right there yes they might have to elevate that they may we haven't without that you had told me they might not even be able to build it because it's yes that's fine I understand better we're getting to see the whole picture because you have me actually kind of confused um because we're sort of jumping in the middle here so let's finish the presentations um and uh so that and then we'll let the body make um or address you all right hello sir hello my name is Tony May and I represent uh David and Judith Hardy Trust and we did we are the ones that appealed this um all right all right so let me does this work no no no don't put it on there yet I'm just wanted to have that there just in case so go back to the PowerPoint presentation um all right so um I'm gonna hopefully by the time I get done with this you'll have a better understanding of what's going on um so we basically have um so we have the the Green Acres site which is in yellow we have my client site which is on the bottom notified in red these are the the issues that I have um that I designated we have issues of the drainage and future damage line of sight of the existing sign corner of the property landlocked dispute over property lines issues with potable water contamination avoidance of the zoning requirements and Green Green Acres misleading the Planning Commission at the last hearing those are the issues that I want to address first let's kind of go and look at the site so if you look at the picture on the left left to me anyway um that's that's the rainstorm you guys had a few weeks ago that's not a 100 Year storm that's not a 10-year storm that's just a regular like rainfall um and the problem is is the site um the more you guys Upstream Grant applications and put new houses and Roads more contaminants and more flood water coming to that that section so again the water is not a hundred year storm level there's where the interstate is um and this is the Harvey property and I've also designated the part that is landlocked now the city's interpretation of landlocked is that because one part of the parcel has access to the to a road that it's not landlocked the problem is is um the sign is on the landlocked part and when the when the ndot came through and did the freeway they basically took a bridge away that used to give them access to that side of the property they took the bridge away but there was a section of property which is the Green Acres property that my clients have used for 20 30 years to access the sign and they also stored heavy equipment on that location as well over the over the years so that that site is an active site that is a profit making site for for the family um and and basically this is now being completely cut off from that and so for the city to say it's not landlocked because another part of the property has access to the street that that's not a very it's not a true statement um it's an interpretation but it's not a true statement so let's go into the to the drainage um and I'm talking really fast because last time when I got here I got cut out of my three minutes and I wasn't able to finish what I wanted to say all right so we have a huge off-site drainage um if you see what a little red dot is you look at the bottom left corner most of that area flows to that point and most of the area as my client was showing me today is being developed so you guys are you know allowing a lot of development in that area homes roads every time you do a home Road or subdivision you increase the flow you also increase contaminants because the oil and everything in the street and all the stuff that it picks up is now coming and going through my client's property or right through the property which is one of the big issues that we have so here's the flood zone the again the yellow is the Green Acres parcel my client's parcel is the bottom as you can see the bottom corner of the Green Acres parcel smack dab in the middle of the flood zone I walked that site um a few months a month or so ago when we came here the flood zone area that's low okay so it's high on the on both sides and it goes it dips down low so the only way they can get above the finished floor is to fill that in so they're gonna have to fill in the flood zone area and my questions are the same as your questions um with are they going to block the sign the sign is very important to my client's family it's been there for a long for quite a while and it's a good source of income for them um and to allow them to come and build it and pick it up you know higher um that's that's a big problem all right so so looking at again their site if you see where the red is that's where my client's property is and and if you see on the bottom photo you can see how the way it's designed is is it's facing um to you guys I guess if you're looking at it we'd be facing um away from the property and you see the waters coming um and there's a like a block wall there's like there's buildings right there so the water's coming right where the flood zone is and hitting that that's gonna that's gonna mess with the water that's gonna mess with the flow of the water um that's that's very problematic again there's a close-up of that area and and the the bottom right corner you if you look at that that's where the the big buildings are and it's minus shining that's where they're going to put RV parking so that's why it's much higher um that is very problematic again if it's going to block the the site of my client's sign all right okay we already went over that so it's our position that the city is setting itself up for a Lemon Valley number two with flooding um you're agreeing to do stuff that's gonna if this goes through is going to cause additional flooding on my client's property the water has gone up on the property my client has a well on the property which I'll talk about in a few minutes all right so this is our warning to the city not that it matters um all right so the line of sight we talked about that this photo right here has taken um right where the old bridge was so if you look at the on the far side of the bridge that that it's our position that's where my client's property used to end anything south of that used to be my client's property and that's now in a location that is why we're disputing the property where the property boundaries are um and uh and so hopefully within the next little bit we'll know for sure um but that my clients owned everything up to the bridge in the past and then that with all the N Dot and everything that happened things have been adjusted and moved that we think that shows that the properties are not correctly at this point um portrayed in the city of Reno's documentation um again there's the interstate there's a Harvey's Trust um again the sign is on the line lock property in order for my client to get people to go to fix the sign or to adjust the sign or do anything um right now they have to hand carry stuff which is which is not really um a long-term solution of this um they need their big trucks to get in there to make any any major modifications or any um anything to the sign that that needs to be done other than just putting another piece of paper all right at a minimum we had City of Reno they require that the um that this development not block the sign but there should be an official requirement at doing that all right okay so um again if you see where the blue is on the bottom right that's the line where my client for the last 30 years have been get has been getting to the property so we would ask that the city require that they can keep that open and if you look at the building at the very bottom right corner that's blocking access there's no way for my client to now get to that property um so basically if you agree to do this you're basically landlocking this piece of property and making it so my client can't use it for the way they had it before it's completely blocked from that um NRS 408 553 subsection 6 talks about this is an N dot statute that talks about um you know transferring property and also requiring that easements and Air View and different easements um be in put in place in order to stop a use that would harm the adjacent landowners there's also a case called Brooks and Bonnet which is nrs278 480 subsection 5 which I believe is a zoning issue where the courts basically said it is satisfied that the public they can abandon something when they're satisfied that the public will not be materially injured by the proposed abandonment so that city has to take into account this they can't just willy-nilly say we don't care that this land this this property is being landlocked there's also another case State versus ex real Department of Highways and linic and again the court said this is this is a property right of easement which cannot be taken from an owner without due compensation key to this is when the ndot came through and and removed the bridge before that my client had access to this piece they removed the bridge they took away access but they then gave access through this parcel for my client to be able to do continue to do it and now based on what we're doing now that is being taken away and we're saying that my client had a right to that um and and that shouldn't be allowed to just take it away so in essence the city is condemning inverse condemnation of that piece and saying you can't really have it and use it anymore unless they require an um that access to be continued um we filed a lawsuit we're going through with that I just wanted to address that the exhibit of the complaint shows the blue and the red section the red section is a dispute that we have with the city and the county as to the layout of um of of that part of that huffaker place it used to be half acre Lane but there it looks like there's some adjustments movements changes when everything happened and it doesn't seem like it's the same the blue part is the disputed area between the Green Acres and my client as to who owns the property so if the statement earlier about my surveyor coming on the property if he was on what my client believed was his property he told him you're trespassing you can't do that so that was the issue that was addressed by Mr Olsen earlier um so here's another real big issue is the potable water we have the flood zone we have floods that have happened in that area um and what you'll see is on the truck you well is right where I put that Arrow right next to the flex zone I mean within a few feet of the flood zone that last water event that came through tore up a bunch of of property um and it also I tore it up to the point where some of the electrical conduit was now exposed to that well my clients are afraid because that well is tied to the same well that they're they've had their will for 100 years um and and this is basically um going to affect my client's water rights um it's going to continue so if this gets contaminated it contaminates my clients property and everything is attached to their Wells again we have another Lemon Valley issue um let's see we would ask that that you guys put specifically in there that they they have to not um increase the the flood levels for any adjacent property for the 100 the 10 and 100 year flood we would request that that be included within the requirements specifically um in the in the prior hearing we were told that that there was an easement for another property we went and did a research there isn't um as far as like Mr Olson said that another the adjacent property with him had some kind of an easement they gave us accent access to the property which it doesn't we went to three or ten minutes is up okay um can I make one last thing on this right here I just want to say that this right here shows this shows the property as it was in 1984 this shows um that this part right here is where the bridge was um so the before the bridge was taken away my client had access to this property right here once the bridge was tore down then the only access my client had was to go this way to the other straight in order to get access so for 20 30 years they used that and now they have their their landlocked so and you guys each got up so wait I'm a little confused in the sense why aren't you going to this gentleman and working out an easement am I am I right like what am I missing here is this Angela wouldn't that be what you would need to do so we've had some initial conversations with about that but nothing nothing has been um that we haven't been able to get that done okay because so just I'm not an attorney but Carl wouldn't that be a civil matter or else would you come here he owns the property a problem that should be resolved between Mr May and the applicant right not the city okay that's what I thought that stuff is included as part of the lawsuit as well okay thank you do anybody have any questions all right um I'm gonna bring it back to the body and we will ask questions okay I want to start with councilwoman doer you've already had three minutes so I'm going to give you another three well my three was for our staff and not this guy but anyway um I guess my question is you made a number of allegations about this easement so just to be clear ndot was the one who sold the property to uh the other gentleman and and uh what did your company have an easement with ndot either with the bridge or coming in the other way there was no formal easement um there was that additional piece was was was obtained when they when they went through and did the the freeway and that initial that spot stayed open which allowed my client access so they had like informal access like they just used it or they told MDOT they were going to use it it's my understanding that that it was there um it was acquired as part of the deal once once the the bridge was taken away then my client's only access was there and they've continued to use it right but I mean there's no official you've mentioned lawsuits but it almost seems like it's n Dot end at itself with through your access by first taking out a bridge right that allowed access from your property to the other part of your property so it's my understanding that n dot removed the bridge I I'm not positive but I'm assuming that ndot removed the bridge as part of the the i-580 project well I understand but it's not necessary to remove the bridge unless the bridge was built illegally and it was in like Waters of the U.S and they they didn't have permission from somebody to build the bridge the bridge had been there for years that's what I'm saying but somebody years ago built a bridge that maybe was a non-conforming or not allowed in the in the Evans Creek drainage okay it was it was a city it was a County highway I think Washoe County okay yeah okay so that's point one is that it's questioned with ndot why did they take away the bridge right correct like was it required by federal agency and a drainage or something number two they didn't Reserve an easement when they sold the land to this third party they didn't resolve Reserve an easement for you you're getting Reserve an easement but they gave us access for 25 30 years 30 years but somebody it just what didn't have the right paperwork like it wasn't a recorded easement to access across their property two years okay so there's there's a case law that says that if the if a city county state government comes in and removes access that you had yes um then they have to to to maintain that action compensate in some way or well either either compensate or or give them access one of the cases I cited I believe basically refers to a situation where where there was someone had access and they went and tried to remove that City that street they sued and then the Supreme Court said no you have to give them okay access that's a right that they have but wouldn't that be in a court Carl wouldn't that be something well I think they'd have a an action against ndot for taking an action that affected their property rates right is that right yeah right yeah and he's talking about activities that took place many years ago so I don't know why he didn't address ndot when they took the bridge down right and restricted his access because they didn't do anything then because they had accidentally he had access or he was taking access but he wasn't apparently he was trespassing for a number of years and now he could have sued for prescriptive easement but he didn't do that well that's what I was going to go to the descriptive easement because he had historic use of that easement to access his property right right that's so sad so this part this stuff that you're talking about is part of our lawsuit okay we've included indot as part of the loss so I guess the question of Carl is just may we take our action seems like it needs to be in court may we take our action independent uh I mean for example I'll just give you guys the example we were asked to ask to Annex property into the City of Reno and there were a lot of questions about easements and access and water right you know lines and we denied it in part because the access was not clear which was a requirement of the Anna and I thought when you apply for a permit that you have to show that you have control over the property that you have the property to do yours one of the questions at the Planning Commission that I proposed to Mr May is have you done a survey so that we know where the loans are growing yeah and he said no yeah so so we we are doing a survey the surveyors that I was going to have Do It um kept saying they were going to schedule a time and then they said that they couldn't get to it so we just met with someone today and they're going to move forward on it so that will happen all right we're going to move forward I'm going to send it to councilwoman breakfast go ahead and then I'll just go down so um I guess this is for Mr Williams thank you so someone comes in with an application they have to show all the easements right on the application materials when they submit correct when a site plan is submitted it is certified and stamped by a licensed civil engineer or land surveyor in this case it was a civil engineer who certifies property lines so we don't require a formal survey to be submitted but okay but but easements are identified correct yes okay so not Hera having heard any specificity about the particular easement in question I mean I guess his issue is uh you know he's not saying I've got an easement that's not showing in the materials he's not saying the materials were incomplete he's actually showing evidence that um supports your position because he's bringing up an action I saw it flash quickly in front of the screen you know with ndot so that's that's over there his other points are the height and obscuring the sign view um views are not a protected property right we all know that his third point oh the well what was there about the school district something about a school district well what was that so it's on it's there's is a um and this actually was new information for us because the trucking Meadows Water Authority didn't immediately come to comment or comment on it but there are it is within a Chucky metal uh check him out his water authority well on the scroll District property is that little or where's the school district part okay and and actually shame on and tumwa for not commenting because they just gave us a presentation about how they're commenting on all these things so we'll be we'll be bringing that up with our our general manager over there and to be nice yeah so the um directly above the blue parcel so the pellets parcel directly above that is the Washoe County School District parcel and there is the well okay the well is is in the corner there um so I did reach out to Truckee Meadows Water Authority today and they did provide comments that says that the environmental control regulations that we have in place at the city are enough for okay okay now the one issue that he is getting somewhere with me um and I am sympathetic and have been consistent over the years is this condition number 11 on a Lomar because you know junk in junk out I believe that the female maps and I think it's been evidenced are very old very Antiquated built one upon another upon another so you're you're making the decision even though there's a lot of evidence out there that we're redoing all these FEMA Maps I don't know where we're at at that but they're being redone and but you're allowing them to build build up the property provided they get a lowmar to an Antiquated being replaced FEMA map so um I do have a little bit of problem with that so where the FEMA map that you're telling them to revise what was the year of that Maps creation and how many subsequent amendments does that have do you know anything I do not know that okay okay I'll leave that at that the other point is um is you know we have the the hold back provision right the one-to-one hold back provision so if he's building up in theory um he has to hold back somewhere the water correct did this project get to the point of showing you a retention Dam or anything where that would be and how that would be size because that is a site consideration on a very small site you know did it get to that point of drainage where you're seeing a basin is going to be created or or something for the water he's displacing we actually received um uh feedback from tamwa on um it was not specific to this site but then it became specific when we realized there was a well nearby that providing for detention on site actually impacts the Water Quality quality of Wells negatively because it allows for contaminants to stay in the area and percolate into the ground oh interesting there is a case where we would actually want the that to leave the site go into that flood area and move along um well but you know councilman breakfast sorry I'm going to cut you off I'll come back to all right any other council members want to weigh in councilman council member Eber no council a woman Taylor councilman Martinez all right I'm going to send it back to you councilwoman doer I had the same question about the um FEMA which was that if we allow them to build on the floodplain they're going to increase um you know they're going to fill in places that were used to store water so they're they're putting fill by by their their foundation and their building they're filling in a site where water went before which means that it will increase water Downstream and and Iowa had the same question that she did which was they need to be retaining the water on site to not increase the runoff to other people so where how do you expect to resolve that so there's a couple options that we we contemplated and one is to fill and in that case they would have to show that the flood area is is relocated somewhere else and and that would mean that they would have to have this collaborate effort between adjacent Property Owners potentially the Dolan site um potentially the Harvey trust property owner to to amend those FEMA maps to do that um otherwise I think the other option is that they just they can't be able to do it they can't put the buildings there okay that makes sense to me okay yeah saying we don't want retention basins around because you're holding water you're concentrating it in and you know the goal is to move it off as quickly as possible you know that means the mitigation factor which you know I think there's discretion on this is not available so in lieu of that we may need to see a development proposal that does not impact the the flood area on the site and that may reduce the buildable area on the site you know and so you know there could be some good some kids there and I you know for my consistency in this area you know um when I talk think of the University Farms property and the displacement there um I do have a hard time with conditions coming out for lowmars I I really really do and it's compounded by this tomoir um well on site so I don't know if I can go there with this condition number 11 in thank you finished my comment I yes used a portion of the time um different issue what I was going to ask you about was you have a fence it's called a green fence and I guess it's what has Ivy growing on it or something that is an option there's um there are a number of what I'm concerned about is I haven't seen that done that successfully around here is that in lieu of trees uh block on the on the um side of the freeway no it is not and it's it's in combination with trees and one of the features that we we maintained is that we're not actually reducing the trees from the original requirement we are keeping the same number of trees that will be required without any landscape reductions they're being prioritized along that landscape strip to provide us a screening element all the way across that so it's a double yes there's trees and behind it is a fence correct with Greenery on it correct and how tall is that fence uh six feet six feet okay and then um is it possible I mean is one of our motions here today to pull back out of the flood plain because I don't think Phil is a proper answer here and I also understand what Tom was saying about the well they don't want to pool water near a well casing but I don't know who is using that well is this well in use I mean so that is a it's the Huff acre Place well for there's so there's there's three Wells so there's the private well for the property or the appellant could you pointed out again so the Orange is the Billboard location but where's the well so it's so at the end of Huff acre place it's directly north okay um where that little bulb is and then is it on the west side of the Evans Creek it is on the east side of Evan or uh before you cross a creek that's correct there's a little okay but who uses it again um so it's it's a general tamwa well oh it's a full-on time yes okay okay so my question was though is this possible that as part of our motion we would ask them to pull out of the floodplain um wherever the flood clean finally is mapped I would like to note though that the um through any building permit any abuse that comes before that doesn't require this process this this is a standard procedure for us the um deciding on the developability of a site based on the flood plain so they're not providing adequate um information for us through a flood study through what's called a base elevation study that um they would not be able to potentially build in this area at all so I I think that at all or just in the floodplain well it's it's it's it's dependent on that study but we don't don't we'll come at the final permit which is normal that's our enormous process okay okay so you're saying yes you as a practice would pull back out of the floodplain is that what I'm hearing you say no from now from our perspective we don't have the final hydrology report that would come in no no I mean later on when you get this final it depends on what the the studies well that's what I'm saying but if the study says that this is part of the active floodplain so are we allowing people to build in this kind of places that's what I'm trying to get at we are not allowing anyone to build in the flood plain if they are unable to demonstrate that that flood area is can be can be cannot be relocated then they would not be able to build in that area or fill it it would it would make it an undevelopable portion of the property okay and is the applicant here I didn't the yeah oh I'm sorry sir okay all right well I do have a question for no questions except for I do want to ask because it seems so strange to me so there's a billboard that you guys own on this property no just on their property but on the West Side okay where the little like um little yeah golden Square that's my client's property that's the landlocked property and there's a sign there all right they can't get to it anymore why didn't you buy the property we were never given opportunity I didn't I didn't know it was done during covid and my clients were never given notice of it okay or they probably would have um you know they would have probably gone and bid on it but they weren't given the opportunity okay all right thank you every question for the applicant we have um okay come come on up councilman you're gonna get three minutes councilman breakfast you're gonna get another three minutes and actually I think one more three minute round for councilman breakfast all right uh sir thank you for being here today just wanted to understand um I drove out there and I know that your storage units to the north are 12 feet and these are double the height and I wonder is it all of the storage units or just some of them that are this 24 feet I typically will build in phases um I've been involved in the storage business for 50 years sure okay uh so I will typically build in stages and I build according unit mix according to what the demand is all right one of the big demands right now as I'm certain you guys know is RV storage well we don't know we're not in that business what you guys have certainly approved a lot of projects so I'm just saying that's true it is in a big demand now how big I don't know but you know currently we have the very end building uh which is close to their property okay as a RV building and then uh we had plans to make the next building over possibly also an RV building as far as any of the other ones I don't know but the architect yes uh who just goes off on his merry way made all the buildings taller and it was an issue I I had with them because it cost me money exactly no one Stacks taller than eight exactly so the the issue that I am struggling with as the council member on both sides of this freeway is that people are starting to build very tall buildings right up against the freeway and um if your buildings are the same height as the ones to the north it's totally fine the road does come down at that point but you know anybody could live with that but I'm getting Deluge with residents saying how many storage units do we need they're everywhere and number two how many tall buildings can we possibly tolerate along the freeway because think about this linear extent and if it's all 24 feet nobody can see over that to the mountains and our two beauties here are the river and the mountains and the Mountain View many people don't have view lots but they go on the freeway they see the mountains and it's part of their Joy of living in Reno Nevada so I'm just going to ask you I don't know how this is all going to go here today but I would ask you to consider that when you're building these because it costs more money to go taller and if you don't need to go taller I'm encouraging you if you get approval here today to not go taller and this seemed to be the best time since you and I have never talked before to have that conversation and tell you the issue that I'm getting literally Deluge by residents saying what is happening to Reno Nevada all these tall buildings by the freeway we're we're becoming like La driving down a freeway that has concrete on both sides yeah she used to live in L.A yeah I live in Incline Village I love the mountains I love Reno we've been doing business here since 1997. yeah uh Mr Williams in uh talking about preparing for this mentioned that you want to talk to one of the members I gave out my number and everything for you oh I never thought that well that's an email I got and I said get a hold of me okay I do know that you're on the property because the gentleman yeah I went drove down there yes uh so first I'm just sharing my perspective this is not a law first and foremost as he's mentioned the buildings could be much taller also mentioned and the problem with this property is it's about 70 feet wide right it gets a little bit wider but it's 1100 feet long it's extremely difficult to build much of anything on there you know uh it's challenging so we've done what we've could and we've done everything we've can to push things back I just had a meeting with Mr Tom Dolan of Dolan Lexus yesterday and I'm sorry on Monday and we discussed uh the property one of the things that Mr Williams here doesn't know is we talked about going back to a zero lot line we are five feet off the property that will shift more the Landscaping along to the freeway I want to look good too okay that's how I get customers in okay thank you so much we're gonna we're gonna move on yeah can I just comment on a few other things just I'll be real quick okay okay um it's a civil matter if anything what what they're bringing on up uh if indot took a bridge out and took away their access why didn't you contact ndot then okay to contact me after I bought the property and by the way I asked endot about easements access everything else no easements none at all um so talk to them about Bridge don't don't come and sue me as far as using these men I know nothing of this and I don't know why I should provide an easement I'm in the self-storage business it's a security business I need a secure property not allowing anyone to come on and off the property I did uh tell these gentlemen uh at the hearing where I was approved you know I really don't want to do an easement I will consider it but I really don't how about you just sell me your little piece of property at a fair market Price and then we're done with it they're landlocked by a creek and by the way what they don't you're landlocked by a creek by the way in between their parcel and mind and I have documents here there seems to be a strip of where hufficker Lane went across the freeway there's a City of Reno property so if they've been going across ndot's property for years without permission and they've been going across City of Reno property I would say you've been breaking the law in trespassing now maybe murdering for years is okay if you get approval afterwards I know that's a low extreme but that's how I feel about it uh as far as the Lomar my people are working on it right now as I mentioned earlier we just did a survey and we are confident that everything is correct he's gone back to all the old ndot documents Dale Poe development it was condemned and was clearly said easements gone if there were any back then and that's in to Dale Poe long before them I'm going to cut you off I'm sorry we're going to go to councilwoman breakfast thank you um Mr Williams could we bring up the site plan that shows the floodplain area look I'm not convinced about the argument of the axis and the bridge because if these people have owned it long enough and the 580 came through as an ndot project someone was paid for something easements a bridge access or so on you know we we know how um you know the the right-of-way management um acquisition you know standards go and federal money was involved in that roadway too so you know that's that's kind of not real honest to be making claims about that I just have to kind of say I am sympathetic about the Zone a floodplain that that is on this parcel and um I've been consistent I you know you all have discretion have authority to administer the codes how you do but when it comes up here it's a whole nother game and whether it's Daybreak or university Farms or even the Other Self Storage guy um I can't remember his name he had it there was Southern University Farms is I've been consistent for a long time is you don't get the freebie of the Lomar that does not make finding number five and number six for me in the um in the in the conditional use permit and those are related to um the characteristic of the use of the use is proposed and may can be conditioned are reasonably compatible with the types of use permitted in the surrounding area and that it's uh would not be detrimental to public health safety or welfare related to property damage and Hazards to person as their property so I want to understand what you're you're saying is that conditional 11 says you're out of the flood plain if you go get a low Mar and lift it up right the condition number 11 is intending that we we receive a flood study to understand where the base flood elevation is and and so the very preliminary level we're trying to work we're implementing this the same way as any other building permit but the base level up on development or existing so the there's a study that we're we're requesting to identify I mean it's so we're not even going to be using the FEMA Maps we're going to be using this study that we are requesting through that condition to identify where the the flood the level of the floods is exists today and then then they need to propose a design that will work with that um with that flood study if they can't do the Lomar then they wouldn't be able to they won't be able to build in this area and when does the low Mark come in after that's is that that study is part of the Lomar process correct it is but it's also a part of our process so we'll be involved in that on on that side but also part of the webinar I'm not comfortable with that because I don't believe that doing Lomar on these FEMA maps in this area are going to meet the conditions until I see 20 20 21 22 23 current built out environment of flood maps that reflects everything that's been built I don't believe on um low Mars up above FEMA maps that were from 1998 and it you know I'm just pulling it out I don't know if you know the date of the existing FEMA map out there but I don't even think it reflected the 97 flood you know maybe some of my callings know a little bit better does anyone know the date of the FEMA map out there or staff I don't know yeah so we didn't study this all right we're moving on I'm gonna send it to you councilwoman doer give us a motion please all right I am going um to recommend um that we do two things one is that we deny the appeal because they think it's out of our purview the issues that have been raised with the exception that I would like to amend Condition 11. it's not enough in my opinion and we've done this on other projects it's not enough to protect yourself out of the flood plain by elevation in my opinion and and this would would go directly to the finding about um material detrimental to the public health safety and Welfare um and so on there's several Provisions here five six and five I think that they have to elevate themselves but at the same time they cannot increase flooding Downstream so they have to do a calculation to ensure that if if they can figure out with FEMA how to elevate themselves out of the floodplain so they are protected they can't then have that fill be affecting others because Evans Creek is very sensitive it floods so there has to be compensating storages the term we use compensating storage to compensate for any fill that is placed in this flood zone a a okay so I don't know if the council understood what I'm asking you're suggesting anyway well no motion am I right no what it is this um condition basically says they have to protect themselves they cannot be in the they can they have to be a foot above the floodplain but that doesn't protect others legally no yes so Angela Foods assistant director that is a standard code requirement that does not need a separate condition that is required on every project okay so all day every day okay so that's our required legally well then I just want to give the motion then I wanted clarification on that then you had to put on the record it's implied to you but it's not obvious here so then I guess I will um recommend to deny the appeal and let the project go as is with the current conditions I'm not going to support so hold on one second so okay councilman doer are you finished yeah with the caveat to our gentlemen Builder that It Go as low as you can okay if I might just to clarify the motion is the motion um from council member door the same that is written on the planning decision regarding the appeal based on council's review I just want to make sure that you're hitting all the base facility to make the findings give me one minute if you will yeah um I'll uh recommend the motion on the screen which says that I can make the findings so you move to a firm approval of denying the appeal okay all right so I have a motion from councilwoman doer I have a second from councilwoman Taylor I'm going to send it to councilwoman breakfast for discussion one minute yeah um I'm not going to support I um would support if The Zone a as it is now was a no build area as I believe it should be well and that's not what the design shows that's not what the condition shows if if it was no build in the zone a I would be comfortable with that but they don't have any room to maneuver plus they've got tum wall over there not wanting to them to do the detention basins I just think this is irresponsible and I'm consistent this is consistent with my University Farms my day break position and I think it was monkey storage position yeah all across this east side of the 580 area and so I'm I'm not supportive well and let me say this that's what I was trying to get at and if I didn't say it very clearly I mean you've said that it's automatic and we would never let that but I think this is much more specific and so I do want to amend my motion uh to um deny but I do want no build in this flood zone a I don't know how to say it more clearly I think you said it more clearly than I did well then I think I think you would draw the motion I was amending the motion to add this additional condition if I could you're wrong let me like can I just I'm gonna move oh go ahead let me just so procedurally the next thing that would have to happen if you want to withdraw that is the secondary would have to withdraw the second and otherwise the motion stands yeah and then we voted on so if well I don't know that I was clear I explained what I wanted to do which was not have them build in zone a by not displacing any additional flood water all right let's make this easy hold on yeah councilwoman Taylor please no I don't want to um amend my second because everything is already there that we need to do they're not going to build in a flood plain if FEMA says you can't build there everything that we need is within the conditions right okay it's not up to FEMA though that the conditions are there the they're not going to go build in a flip plane if they say they can't do it right do you want to build in a floodplain sir okay thank you that is true okay so um I'm I'm gonna go back to our attorneys I'm confused I can't withdraw my emotion I've never heard such a thing yeah you can't withdraw your motion because it was seconded at this point so the motion either gets voted on and it fails and then there can be another motion or it gets voted on and it passes but once that second was made it goes to the body it's no longer your emotion and she's not withdrawing it so we're going to move forward with the motion okay all right so I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed a post okay so it is three three it doesn't go no action I'll make a subsequent motion okay I move to modify the decision of the Planning Commission based on concerns for special use permit finding conditional use permit findings five and six related to the conditions in those and that is that the Zone a floodplain is a no build no disturbance area for the use of the development does that condition number 12 or number 14 because that's condition number 14. is that internally inconsistent with any of the other conditions one through thirteen particularly condition 11. or the site plans as shown because we do not want to take this action and have an internally inconsistent package of conditions and okay you understand that yeah it's complex so yeah I guess I need some clarification so the the condition that we're looking at is condition 11. correct that well no I'm adding it condition 14. and that is that the Zone a is a no build no disturbance area for the purpose of the development he wants to disturb it to put landscaping or you know something else that's okay but for the per it will not be used for the development is that inconsistent with any of the other conditions because it's also modifying the site plans that were in the submittal correct correct yeah but it's within our Authority I wouldn't say it's inconsistent there's no inconsistency because 11 says they can go toward FEMA okay give me a motion okay so that's the motion it's modifying it and the administrator is delegated to amend any commissions 1 through 13 that they find inconsistent with the overriding condition number 14. all right so I have a motion a second I have a second discussion okay I'm I'm not going to support it I think this is more of a civil civil matter the flooding issue everyone that knows my votes knows that I have very big issues with flooding and disturbances you want to just just so you know um everything that you put in there I think you've done a pretty good job at assuring that correct Angela just just on the record s the the intent of condition 11 was to say we know there is potentially a flood zone a in this General location what we need them to do is provide a study that shows us the exact boundaries of that flood zone a and then they have two options they can stay out of it and do nothing put no building there or they can come up with a design to show how they're building within the allowed regulations of a flood zone that may mean they have to work with their neighbors again the Dolan properties is someone they're talking to that that's a possibility if they can't make that happen they cannot build anywhere on that portion of the site but until they do a study we're just making because they come back to you correct so when we hear that everyone they got to come back because we know then what we're looking at exactly perfect that's what I wanted to just have on the record so that's why I will not be supporting all right okay I'm gonna make a comment on the motion too then okay go ahead um the reason I like condition 14 it is very explicit and provides that extra level of protection I understand that often um having worked with many people that are working around floodplains that they will come up as you said um Angela with a proposal some of this and some of that and they'll offset it this way and offset it this way the reason I like condition 14 is it makes it very clear and there it's it doesn't leave a lot of conversation for for our staff a lot of confusion for the applicant confusion for other people it's just very clear so that's what I like about it all right again I have a motion in a second and unless anyone wants to wait in for discussion if you haven't all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed hey hey motion does not carry so it'll have to come back Madam clerk I'm going to send it back to you well let's no no no let's make word of the body we have to decide can we just we just took two votes yeah three three on both sides we're clearly divided on this issue so with that being said we should ask the attorneys yes if I could yeah just to get get to it um so under city council rule 812 once we've had two motions um then and there's no action if there's another Motion in a second if there is no action on the item the public hearing shall be placed on the next regular agenda of city council city council shall have the ability to designate a different date than its regular next regular meeting if it obtains concurrence of the applicant and the respondent there too all right sounds good councilman Taylor think about America I'm I'm gonna attempt to emotion and um this goes back to a lot of things that we were trying to say earlier today we have a small business here we have a planning department that has put in all of the conditions necessary to safeguard against flooding it was unanimously approved by the Planning Commission this is um interesting that it's even here so I will make a motion to affirm the Planning Commission decision all right I have a motion and uh do I have a second second the second by councilman Martinez I have a motion in a second any discussion all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed opposed again I I'm now let's get clarification from the attorneys can we um we have to make a decision at some point correct so we'll have before we'll have another business another member returning presumably at the next meeting they'll be seven and it will we'll do this again so it goes to the next meeting and can it go on during regular hours it well it goes on the next agenda um I think you have the authority to put it on at a shall have the ability to designate a different date than its next regular meeting so um so two meanings during department yeah during departing the regular day yeah so time and date certain so we're going to go with May 12th at 10 A.M and that's just because that's our standard public noticing when we open the meeting okay I'll make that motion all right I have a motion from councilwoman breakfast second who's gonna pay for the noticing nobody because we're doing a time and date certain right now okay so I have a motion from councilwoman breakfast I had a second from councilwoman Ebert all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries unanimously see there's something we do all right sending it back to you madam clerk thank you madam mayor we're moving into closing public comment item J1 we did receive some um public comments after 4 pm yesterday which have been included in the public comment today they were various in nature or um like I said either received after hours so we received four letters in total three in support one in concern and we did receive one voicemail which has been distributed to the Reno city council but we are not able to play it at this time and with that I'm just looking for a motion to adjourn how come I've never seen anyone fight that motion all right