Tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle t Good afternoon. Welcome to today's public comment. You'll have two minutes to address council as I call your name. Our first speaker is Bishop Sunny James. Welcome. >> Good afternoon. Uh first I came today uh in hopes of shedding light on opportunities that we have together. Uh, I know that we can't make every meeting and I know that schedules get complicated, but I want to make sure that we understand we are all mentors to our youth. And as you see me publicly standing with different folk, they're not always going to be my skin color. They're not always going to share my ideologies, but I truly believe that God has us in a very, very unique position to show our youth what coming together really means and what it really looks like. And so, as you see me pursuing to rally or mobilize folks, it's not to cause any division or any separation. It's to really show folk that if we're going to make a difference or have a significant impact, it's only going to come with us putting God first and with us really coming together. And I just want to say I am open. Our new initiative is rolling out. We are bringing things and strategies to the table that are actually going to produce change. I don't want to just meet anymore, guys. We meet to meet. Now, I want to meet because we bring solutions to the table. So, at our next come together event, I'm going to encourage all of you, please prioritize it so that we can come together. And if you don't like somebody across the aisle, the bottom line is we're still going to have to come together to listen to each other. And my job is to pray for you. God bless you all. >> Thank you. Our next speaker is Sydney Anne. I apologize, Sydney. I I can't Uh, make out the last name. What is it? Strangarity. Welcome. On behalf of anybody who drives into this city and parks a car, I am here. I don't know if all y'all know anything about the Boris Head Festival, but last weekend the Boris Head Festival happened four times at Christ Church Cathedral. and I sing in that. And when I left, I saw six examples of what happened to me two weeks earlier. Everybody had a parking ticket. $45 to go to church. Two weeks before I went to a lessons and carols. I went to look at the meter. Now I'm 5'5 and the meter's come to about here. So I'm on my tiptoes. I don't see that great. The screen was foggy. Couldn't tell if I had to pay. It was a Sunday afternoon and I said to some guy who lives right there. I said, "Do you know you have to pay on Sunday?" He said, "No, I don't think you do." Okay. I went into church for an hour and 20 minutes and came out to a $45 ticket. Thank you, Cincinnati. Why Why do pro when there's a church within two blocks or a synagogue or what have you. If it's a Saturday afternoon, a day when there's normally a service, those meters should not be charging, people shouldn't have to pay to go to synagogue or church or whatever. I am now waiting to hear what they're going to say because I said I'm going to pay it. I'm not going to pay $45 to go to church. So, I think you need to readress the parking situation. charge what you want and that little 30 cent convenience fee on it is not a convenience fee. Put the old meters back. Let me Thank you. Our next speaker is Christopher Travis. One second, sir. >> Good afternoon. My name is Chris. >> One one second, Mr. Travis. Can we um fix his mic? Can you give us a test, sir? >> Hello. >> Um did you um Oh, I'm sorry. We have someone to help. I apologize, sir. Perfect. Uh one second, sir. So, for all of our speakers, um if you come to the mic, please don't uh hit the button. Um just uh we're gonna turn it on and off. um with this young lady in the tablet. Go ahead, sir. >> Thank you. Uh my name is Chris Travis. Um I am attorney for uh Marvin Barnes and he is a resident of a CHA property at 1820 Relage Avenue. Uh I have been uh brought to my or it has been brought to my attention that there is a situation with the uh collection of rents from an authorized agent from Touchstone and that for some time now um that those rents have been being redirected uh to their personal attention. Um I have just been brought on in the matter and it was my hope that not only CHA but uh Touchstone would also would also made themselves available and records available for uh our attention to find out um how this has occurred avoided in the future and to work on getting credit for these residents uh as a result of being victimized by an agent that has been put in their way from making sure they stay uh current with their rent. So, >> thank you, sir. >> Thank you, Marvin Barnes, I believe. I apologize. Marv, I believe it's M A R V I N. Yes. Welcome, sir. >> I can go ahead. Good afternoon. I want to say my name is Marvin Barnes. I want to bring attention to some things that's going on at uh 1820 Rutland Avenue uh 45207. It's under the Everston LLC under the ownership of uh Touchstone being managed by Touchstone Properties. I believe there's an audit that needs to be done uh as a tenant. I trusted Mr. Crockett to do the right thing as an employee for property uh manager for Touchstone Properties. Um, there's been money orders that's my initial money orders have been stolen or signed in uh Dion's Crockett's name when it should have been signed in Touchstone's name. I didn't know what information to put on there because I was new as a tenant. So, I had no other choice but to follow what my uh property manager was telling me to do. Um there are several other tenants that this has been done to that I have the proof here and um the ledgers that we request from the corporate office and from the manager's office they don't match you know so I think that that's a big problem as well and um we would just like this matter resolved uh in a timely manner and uh want to have uh Dion the property manager and touched on and CHA held accountable for um everything that's been done. >> Thank you, sir. Um let me um convey my my apologies for the situation that you're in. I'm um generally aware of it and um it does from my perspective appear uh as if wrongdoing has has taken place um and has impacted you as a victim of that wrongdoing. Uh if you and or your attorney could uh share your information with my colleague in the back, we'll do everything we can to support you. Thank you. Shane C. White, please uh come forward. Mr. White, if you could lean closer to the mic, please so we can hear you. >> Hello. Yeah, CHA um part of this same situation. Just upset right now. Um, I started making my payments through um the rent cafe, the Kroger's. He told me to don't make no more payments. Just just come to him. Just piss me off. I'm just mad right now. Um but um he ain't going to trick me into jail. But um but he just he it's just wrong what he did. You know Deion Crockett his money tell me stomp me stop my payments the rent cafe and told me just bring it bring it to bring it to me big guy. I got you, you know. Yeah, he got me. All right. But um, you know, just just just do the right thing, you know. I feel like I I've been living there for 12 12 years. I ain't have no problems with my rent, nothing like that, you know. Never. I work all the time. So, just I'm just upset, you know. I got to go to work now, you know. Just Thank you. >> Thank you for coming in and and sharing your story, sir. I know it's a it's a hard time and and we'll do everything we can to to support you to see that justice is done. I believe um my colleague in the corner there can take your information and and we'll do everything we can to support you. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Uh, >> Mr. Johnson, please. >> If all possible, we This is the third citizen that said something about this. Uh, I don't know if it's being looked into, but it sounds like a criminal matter that we need, we probably need to get the Cincinnati police involved in. So, I will do that looking into. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Um, >> Paul Bean, welcome. You got $8 million bridge over there where I've been had this accident at. Y'all said I jumped the curve. I gave each and every one of y'all a police report. That camera right there, I need a footage of y'all city hall camera right there. Y'all done stole my project, too. And you said you can't find it, right? That that right there. pull that up cuz I gave it to somebody on your across the table. Okay. But this is what I'm saying here. You been with you had a meeting with Mike the W people being targeted. I was target got hit up hit hit in this vehicle. But you tell me you sorry you can't do nothing about it. But you got a $8 million bridge down there that's being photo with workers working every day being seen worked on that project and you still tell me you didn't see this accident. What's wrong with my picture? I I've been coming down for two three almost three years now. This happened in 21. I didn't put a kid through kid through college. I didn't pay my child support. I paid child taxes. Where do I get help at? Hello. But I need the footage. He said the project cost too much. See this new life program, it'll stop all the drivebys and everything. You said it cost too much money. You said you never seen it. But all of you seen it. Why you keep on lying and make people look like fools? I didn't worked all my life. I ain't even got a felony. Is that a problem? What you are do? >> Thank you. Thank you, sir. As a reminder, this is not a Q&A session, but rather an opportunity for citizens to be heard for two minutes. Our next speaker is Stefan Prior. Welcome. >> Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I'm here to speak about uh the Minneapolis uh shooting. Y'all see what happened on TV? Uh it was wrong. Uh, ICE agent shot at the the car. Y'all seen that. The protest they had here. They need more protesters like that. We don't need ICE here no more. ICE need to go on back and get put on ice because they taking people lives. Dirty. That's wrong. Y got to do your job on that. I'm here to show support to the residents in Evston about Dion Crooked Crockett stealing money order from the residents and something need to happen on that. He used to work for uh uh St. Vincent Depal. He had a he got a long track record too. He done made a lot of money to not just taking their money but he made a lot of money in his career. So y'all need to look into that. I brought it to your attention about that because no one else would talk about it because they letting crooks. You can still have money and still be stealing from other people. That's a damn shame. And it's sad too about that. I got a receipt here today about Miss Sue's property at 1801 Bay Miller Street. The city of Cincinnati. I'm I got right here. Uh it got Department of Building Inspection on it. They gave her a bill for $271,000 just to do her wall. They gave her a bill for that. I ain't know. I thought y'all was in a demolition building with demolition bonds, but I didn't know y'all was into paying people to fix up a property for a resident that stays in the West End. Y'all could have helped her redevelop that property and partner UP WITH HER. Y'ALL COULD HAVE DID THAT IN THE West End neighborhood. 1801 Bay Miller. $271,000. Damn, that's a lot of money y'all gave a contractor to do some work. I I don't knock the contractor for doing the work. He doing his job. That's his business. >> Thank you. Our next speaker is Jonathan Norton. Welcome. Politicians shouldn't have to be begged to prioritize the lives of their people, especially when those people are children. And two children shouldn't have to die before a promise is kept and progress is made. Two years ago, when 11-year-old Dominic Davis was killed, a promise was made in hopes of deterring future victims of this kind of violence. But two years has come and gone, and these cameras weren't where they were needed before Queen Ireie Reed was also killed. Such a small and simple ask, but one overlooked because this council's priorities point a different direction. They are more concerned with patting the pockets of billionaires. In two years, cameras have been put up. Promises have been kept. The problem is they're not the ones to protect children here. This city said they'll spend 150,000 for kids in our parks. That's how much they can offer for a band-aid on the problem. But for billionaires, they'll spend 4.8 8 million to buy drones from Skyo and Axon. They'll spend 36.1 million to Axon to use its surveillance tech. A glaring disparity in priorities from this city. Axon and Skyio don't exist to keep children safe. Quite the opposite. It is their equipment and tech that has been used in Palestine to kill tens of thousands of children. And that's just the victims with enough left of their bodies to recover. In reality, it's hundreds of thousands. Pages upon pages of names of 11year-olds slaughtered in Gaza. This is who you would rather fund. Instead of investing in the safety of Cincinnati parks, you'll watch our taxes flow to the people that steal and bulldoze parks in Bethlehem and across Palestine. Instead of cameras begged for by grieving families, you provide cameras that will be used by ICE so that they can continue to brutalize, fracture, and abduct families in the US. Instead of affordable housing in the West End and across our city, will afford the destruction and demolition of Palestinian homes. It's not just this promise that has been foregone and forgotten. Where are the progressive policies you all campaigned on? How long must we wait? How long must we watch the people who promised racial justice and a better tomorrow continue to work in the opposite direction? Funding apartheid and genocide while children are killed at home and abroad. >> Stanford Pool. Welcome. >> Stanford Pool. You got a moment ready. As you look at Donald Trump, what he doing to this country and stealing land, stealing awe. And what are we doing here in Cincinnati? We're stealing property, too. Stefan, I just showed you $272,000 to a lady in the West End. went into her property and now I want her to pay that. And tomorrow, a lady named Sandy, they're trying to take two properties. She'll be in court tomorrow. They want her to sign her two buildings over to her. She was on a lawsuit. They told her to get off the lawsuit. We'll help you. So, they helped her. All right. Soon as she got off the lawsuit, they put for sale sign on both of her properties. These are criminals. Your receiverhip people was at court a couple months ago and I asked them, "Have you ever put your hands around one of the people in the West End and say, "Hey, what can we do to help you get your property together?" And your lawyer said, "Will you expect us to give them money?" You expect to give them money? That's what you say when you when we brown people ask for something. But you gave 400,000 to this unit over here in Price Hill that the receiverhip took off and got that money and took off. Nobody in jail. You went on and gave u um uh $880,000 to to your your contractor people down there to be policemen. What kind of people are you? You're getting a paycheck every two weeks and you're going home to your family and you shut off everything that a poor person did. You had a white man sit here and said the n-word 20 minutes, not two minutes, and you did nothing. You let a lady get spit on, told a kid, the kid going to hell because it's a religion to traumatize him. Nothing from none of you. >> Okay. Our next speaker is, it looks like it's Patrick or Patricia Gillan. I apologize. Welcome. Hello. Is it on? Hi, my name is Patricia Gillum and I was attended at 1820 Rland and I've been there for five years and um I came through the doors of 21 and he first he told me Dion Crockett told me I owe $4,000 to back. I showed him some receipts and I went back to ask him about the receipts. He claimed he must have misplaced them. I went down to the relief uh relief fund, got $4,000. He still told me I owe $2,998 along with the eviction letters. This went on for five years. He he made me pay uh more money with my rent, everything. And then I went down there. I got a a copy of my money order for $1,200. So, he was intimidating me, threatening me, evict to evict me, you know. So, I had to fight and I'm here to fight and I need help and don't nobody deserve this. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Again, we're very sorry that you're a victim of this crime and and we'll do everything we can to support you. Uh if you could connect with my colleagues in the back. Um, we appreciate it. Thank you for coming in. >> A bow wind. Welcome. >> Good afternoon. My name is Ba Win and I'm here today on just a simple concept of a beacon. I was born in Vietnam. Uh however, our community and my family journey was set out about 50 years back, the Vietnam War. And that you guys probably know a lot of folks were called boat people because they flee and often for a pursuit a pursuit of a better life and many couldn't make it. Um but while lost at sea, often the beacon for them is the lighthouse. whatever is the next stop. Many didn't make it. A lot were lost at sea. However, I do remember when my grandparents were still around. One of my grandfathers was imprisoned after the war. Uh it was called re-education camp. So, he hated everyone. He hated Vietnam. He hated France. He hated US. However, he reminded me the folks he fought with, the US soldiers, treat people more humanely. more humili than his own countrymen. So fast forward to today what we see currently I do see many folks wanted to be here because this country is a beacon of hope for many and for that to this day I think he's being challenged. So I'm reminded of what is it that my grandpa has always taught us is the moral. How do we continue to be more compassionate? He lived all his life in the fighting for freedom. I'm lucky for that. However, I do see that this country is a beacon of hope, but we have to continue to be the moral beacon as well because that's the journey that will consistently days in and days out that keep us all going towards things when we're lost at sea. Just like when life is lost. Thank you. Thank you, Brian Wright. Welcome. Hello everybody. Thanks for having me. I'm Brian Wright. I'm the executive director of Cincinnati Compass and I'm here to speak on the the resolution. Uh I want to commend and thank council members and the mayor for this resolution. Uh, I also want to ask that council members and the mayor remain steadfast in their commitment to serving all residents of Cincinnati, regardless of where one originates. We're here to work with the city to uphold that commitment. We want to ensure that the city remains a welcoming place and a choice destination for global innovation and talent. Along with such resolutions put forward today, we need the continued courageous leadership of council and the mayor's office to back programming that ensures the safety and well-being of immigrant neighbors while also reducing barriers to economic opportunity. Immigrants come here to give, to create, to innovate, and make their new home better than the way they found it when they arrived so that we all may share in prosperity. Immigrants add cultural vibrancy to the region and contribute 1.9 billion in taxes while holding 4.9 billion in spending power to reinvest back into the communities. We have an obligation to support and welcome our immigrant neighbors. For that, I am thankful for this resolution and ask profoundly for the continued support and protection by the city of Cincinnati for our immigrant neighbors. Thank you. >> Thank you, Myra Jackson. Welcome. >> Good afternoon. My name is Mara Casses Jackson, executive director of the Immigrant and Refugee Law Center. We provide free legal immigration services to immigrants and refugees in the greater Cincinnati area. and I'm here to speak in support of the resolution today. Public safety is not only about law enforcement. It's about trust, accountability, and community well-being. In recent weeks, we have seen examples of federal enforcement actions that have shaken communities. We have seen the killing of a woman in a residential neighborhood. Uh this sparks widespread outrage and fear in the communities of all backgrounds. When enforcement actions are conducted without clear transparency or accountability, all residents feel less safe. No more. Public safety depends on people trusting the law. Uh that law will protect them, not escalate risk, whether they are immigrant, immigrants, US citizens, neighbors, business owners. Community members should never have to wonder whether seeking safety, doing their jobs, walking down the street will end in a tragedy. Our community is made stronger by contributions from hardworking immigrants who are here seeking safety, seeking a better future. And this includes dignity and the freedom to pursue opportunity. Seeking safety and a better life is a fundamental human right. and recognizing that human dignity enriches our city. Today's resolution reinforces the principle that law enforcement policies must protect everyone and that agencies operating in our cities should be transparent, accountable, and respectful of human rights. Our shared goal is a safer community where all families can live without fear and with confidence in the rule of law. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel. >> Hi again. Um, I came last week. It was my first time coming and I primarily came because I had a hard time getting a hold of the mayor's office. But what you know was a powerful meeting last week and I got to hear from the family that is devastated. and I hear from the tenants that are worried about losing their home. um that just catches me up to now. But I am actually on the um divergence program and I've been on that for maybe 3 weeks and I've built up a relationship with my um diversion officer and we're working on a plan to present to somewhere in that system um meditation courses that happen in jails that it happens in a jail in Alabama. It comes from India but um we're working on that project and I wanted to see if I could set a meeting up with you sometime to give you an outline very preliminary but just to see what you think of it. Can I talk to one of your people? >> Are you finished? >> Yeah. >> Perfect. Yeah. Please share your information with one of my colleagues in the back. >> Oh, thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Nancy Sullivan. Welcome. My name is Nancy Sullivan. I'm the director of transformation CDC. I live in East Bryce Hill. I'm not sure that I'm 100% as enthusiastic as uh Brian or Myra. I feel as if this resolution is a very mild first step. I realized that other cities like Minneapolis and Chicago were in blue states and were a little hampered by our legislature. However, I really feel that this um resolution can and should be strengthened. I think there'd be a lot of people here at the meeting in two weeks to really emphasize that. But instead of simply saying, "Oh, you need a judicial warrant to come on city property." no mustering period on cityowned or leased property. And other cities are doing more directly with their immigrant neighbors to keep their businesses safe. Um, as you all probably know, the whistles are making the rounds and it is very disappointing to see no solidarity from any of you. So, I look forward to working on strengthening this resolution. As you know, perhaps people in the back do not realize 11 groups wrote a letter October 24th. Miss Albi um office is the only one who responded to that. And I think that's pretty amazing when 11 groups of citizens have things to say and there's no response. >> Thank you. Moving to our uh uh that concludes public comment. Um, we'll take a fivem minute recess and be back at 208. Thank you. Number of heat. Click. Click. It's now 2:08. Um, we're about to begin. If council members could please find their seats. We'll now begin today's business portion of Cincinnati City Council and the clerk will please call the role. >> Council member Owens >> here. >> Council member Walsh >> here. >> Council member Albby >> here. >> Council member James >> here. >> Council member Jeff >> here. >> Council member Johnson >> here. >> Vice Mayor Kernney >> here. >> Council member Nolan >> here. Please stand for a moment of silence. >> And now the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The minutes from the previous meeting will be approved and filed without objection. Hearing none, they'll be approved and filed. Moving to our agenda, items 1 through 4 will be held one week pursuant to the rules of council. Item five will be indefinitely held. Items 6 through 12 will be held one week pursuant to the rules of council. Item 13. We will now recognize council member Albi, Vice Mayor Kernney, President Prom Johnson, council members James Nolan and Walsh, expressing the denouncement by the mayor and council of the shooting of Renee Nicole Good by Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Minneapolis on January 7th, 2026 and urging any federal law enforcement operating in Cincinnati to comply with city policy and operational requirements related to masks, body cameras, and officer identification. Miss Albby. >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. And I would like to thank uh the mayor and all of my colleagues for signing on to this resolution. So, I'm going to read a part of this resolution here. expressing the denouncement of the mayor and council of the shooting of Renee Nicole Good by Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE in Minneapolis on January 7th, 2026 and urging any federal law enforcement operating in Cincinnati to comply with city policy and operational requirements related to masks, body cameras, and officer identification. Whereas on January 7th, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents shot and killed Renee Nicole Good in a residential neighborhood south of downtown Minneapolis, leading to both local and national outcry for federal agent accountability. And whereas the city of Cincinnati affirms our commitment to public safety policies rooted in investments in violence prevention, education, economic opportunity, mental health support, and constitutional policing, and respect for civil and human rights for all. Whereas federal law prohibits the use of US military for domestic law enforcement except in extraordinary circumstances. And several federal courts have ruled that local law enforcement cannot be compelled to assist with federal immigration and enforcement. From there, the next series of whereas clauses go on to articulate our local requirements and expectations around law enforcement wearing masks, clear identification, and body cameras. and then strongly encouraging all other law enforcement, including ICE, to adhere to our local policies. So, I'm not going to read the full resolution, but everyone can, but I I wanted to just make a few remarks about this. Our residents here in Cincinnati have an expectation of professionalism and safety when interacting with our police force, and those expectations are shaped and informed by the collaborative agreement. We do not want masked agents terrorizing our neighborhoods and pulling residents out of their cars. If there are violent criminals ICE is apprehending, then we expect them to do so safely and professionally because that is not what we saw in Minneapolis last week when ICE agent shot and killed Renee Gold. Renee Good. We should all be horrified by what happened and what we witnessed in that video. The last recorded words we have from Renee Good are, "That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you." The first words the ICE agent said after shooting and killing her were, and I can't even quote them directly because it's so inappropriate. He called her an effing b- word. I want to be clear about something that's not clearly articulated in this resolution. Our city police department is not assisting ICE with federal immigration enforcement. If an emergency arises and police are called, CPD will respond. But I don't want there to be any confusion. The city of Cincinnati cannot and will not be compelled to assist with any kind of federal immigration enforcement. Here in Cincinnati, we understand and believe in the value of our diversity and we are grateful for the wealth of experiences and perspectives our immigrant community contribute to our city. In fact, one of my favorite tasks is reading a welcome letter at citizen naturalization ceremonies to welcome our new citizens to our city. I am heartbroken and outraged by the way this presidential administration is weaponizing ICE against local communities. So while we at the city have no control over IC's operations, the very least we can do is ask and demand that ICE is that they adhere to our local policies when policing in our city. So finally, I do want to lift up uh we have a lot of amazing community partners who do amazing work supporting our immigrant community. Um some of them are here today. Immigrant and Refugee Law Center, Cincinnati Compass, Santa Maria, Catholic Charities, and many more. So, thank you all so much for your work, especially during these tumultuous times supporting our residents. Uh if anyone listening goes to my social media, they can find a copy of this resolution along with uh some resources pointing them um to resources available supporting our immigrant citizens as well as resources around how to protest and um use your first amendment rights peacefully here. So I encourage anyone to check that out. So I want to thank my colleagues and the mayor again for supporting this. Uh this is one step, but I think what happened in Minneapolis is totally unacceptable and it is literally all of us of our worst nightmare. So I'm glad we are taking this step today to uh denounce that killing and ask that ICE follows ICE and other agents and law enforcement agencies follow our local policies when it comes to masking, wearing identification, and body warn camera. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Albby. Vice Mayor, >> thank you. Um, Council Member Albi, thank you for bringing this resolution and thank you to the mayor and council members for their support. Um, we don't only ask ICE to follow the rules, we demand it. So, our local law enforcement protects our citizens. They do not work with illegal entities such as ICE. So, I I ask our immigration and law center and other attorneys who do immigration law, have the rules changed? I mean, we had the know your rights, but apparently that's not working. And I was told the rules have not changed. A warrant signed by a judge is still required before ICE enters someone's home, for example, but they are not following the rules. They're breaking down doors, breaking through windows, um, as you saw with with Miss Good, uh, attacking people in their cars. I mean, what they are doing is totally illegal and we will not stand for it here in Cincinnati. So, if anyone uh needs an attorney, um please call uh 513825 0577, the immigration uh and and refugee law center. Thank you so much um Myra for for your help with this and and all others uh because we want to make sure people are prepared. uh other preparations that I just won't mention the publicly are also in place and going forward. And so we'll make sure that our uh community councils and members and and organizations know so that um our communities can get help. But look, we are all in this together. We're not going to let uh our residents, our our immigrants, non-immigrants, you know, every citizen, non-citizen, doesn't matter. You know, we are all one family here in Cincinnati and we have your back and we demand, absolutely demand that every federal agency follows the rules and that's not happening now. Thank you. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor, President Johnson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, let me be I um the passion is accurate. the um the lawlessness in which took place in Minneapolis is completely unacceptable. Um, I do want to say this though. We greatly appreciate the partnerships we have with the ATF, the FBI, and the DEA here in Cincinnati who have always to this point conducted themselves professionally and when engaging our citizens have followed the leadership of the Cincinnati Police Department. And we value those relationships. And I don't want any of our federal partners, DEA, ATF, or FBI to think this u applies to them because it doesn't because they've been professional and they work collaboratively with our Cincinnati Police Department. But I will say this, as a tactically trained Cincinnati police officer, SWAT officer for over 25 years with the SWAT team, that's what you get when you take anybody off the street, give them a badge, do not train them, and allow them to have rule over American citizens. That was the most unprofessional tactical situation that I've ever witnessed. So these type of things that are happening across our country are totally unacceptable. Uh we have to do everything we can here in Cincinnati to make sure none of our citizens have to endure anything of that close to that. But we do appreciate what Cincinnati Police is doing along with ATF, FBI, and DEA here in the city of Cincinnati. And we value that relationship. But when you, as much as people believe it's this is what you do, you just give me a gun and a badge and put me on the street. That's exactly what you're witnessing across this country. citizens being treated like I don't even there's not even a word for it. And the sad part is the lack of accountability that's coming out of Washington DC. It's horrific. It's disrespectful and it paints a horrible image of real professional law enforcement officers. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you, President. Mr. James, >> thank you so much. Thank you, Council Member Albby, for drawing attention to this issue. Um, the thank you for all your comments. Thank you to our community organizations that are fighting for our im immigrant communities within Cincinnati. Uh, but I the one thing I want to say is I think this uh marks is only the beginning of taking a stand against ICE. I'm very excited to lead with this council. I know this is only my second council meeting. I know I'm the new guy to the team here. Um, but I appreciate the appetite and thank you to Council Member Albi for getting this started, but I would like to see uh uh this only being the tip of the avalanche here. I'd like to see more legislation taking a stronger stance against ICE in the near future. So, thank you so much. >> Thank you, Mr. Jeff. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, uh, Council Member Albby for bringing this forward. So yesterday we had a presentation from CCA, Citizens Complaint Authority, which as all of us know is about accountability. Accountability here locally. Uh if an interaction with law enforcement and civilian goes wrong and we look for body cam footage, we look do they follow the rules. We have that check and balance here. And as council member uh Johnson mentioned, there are three things that are lacking right now with rel especially related to Renee Good, accountability for the officer who conducted it, which we clearly we all have two eyes. We can see what happened, but there needs there has to be accountability there. Full investigation, which is not happening. Uh and then working to prevent this in the future. And I come back to CCA that is part of the role of CCA. is you see these violations and you figure out how to prevent it and uh it's disheartening to see at the federal level that we aren't we don't have those checks and balances. We don't have that uh sense of accountability and and it's very fair uh that when ICE comes here that they play by what the rules are that we expect. Uh it is any anything o other than reasonable to say hey look identify yourself have body camera uh make sure you're not wearing masks all extremely reasonable things. So what we're presenting here uh I think is the base minimum of what we our expectation should be uh it is our expectation of law enforcement locally and it's our expectation uh through this resolution that uh that if ICE is operating here that they are abiding by these same rules. Mr. Walsh, >> I just want to thank Council Member Albi. I mean, I think your the words you used uh sum it up incredibly well, and I don't want to waste any more time uh reiterating because I think you you hit the nail on the head. >> Thank you, Miss Owens. >> Thank you. Um you know, this just one I want to say condolences and our heart goes out to the good family. Um, this further underscores our commitment to making sure that people, our residents in this community feel safe and that we will not back away from that. Uh, we are such an uncertain times and it's uncomfortable in this moment and so I am grateful to the uh, organizations who are on the front lines helping immigrant communities right now. And it is in that strengthened partnership that we need to continue to move in that direction. And so I look forward to continuing to be an ally uh with you all as we get through these times. >> Thank you. And finally, Mr. Nolan. >> Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Council Member Albi, for for taking the lead on this. Um, you know, I think we can all appreciate the idea of seeking safety and support of our families. Um, and the immigrants that have moved to this country are are seeking just that. They're they're moving to this country in search of safety and economic opportunity. It's what many of our families have done. It's what anybody would would do for their families. So, we we would do the same thing, many of us, in that situation. And we should welcome them to our community. We should treat them the way we would expect others to treat us. And that is certainly something ICE is not capable of doing. And so, we have to do everything uh we can in our power to do that. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Nolan. Thank you to the council for bringing forward this critically important issue. And I share not just your concern, but I'm also disgusted by what I see happening in American cities all across our beautiful country. using public safety as a pretense to terrorize vulnerable populations, to create military occupations of American cities like what's happening in Minneapolis only serve to stoke fear and racism and do not do anything to support or advance public safety. In fact, it does just the opposite. It makes us all less safe. The videos and pictures that we see coming out of Minneapolis should shock us all to the core. And I'm proud to be with a council that has the clear eyes to denounce this kind of awful militarization and overreach that is only intended to make us more afraid of each other. Now is the time for leadership that brings us back together. And that's what you're demonstrating here today. Thank you so much, Council Member Albi. Roll call on passage of the resolution please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> It passes. >> Item 14 through 37 are as indicated. Item 38, first reading, please. an ordinance modifying the provisions of chapter 1041 environmental advisory board of the Cincinnati Municipal Code by amending section 1041-5 board membership meetings and governance to increase the maximum number of environmental advisory board members. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Karing, the chair of budget and finance is excused from today's council meeting. Vice Chair, Miss Mr. Nolan, like to introduce this item. >> Mayor, I would ask that council member Owens introduced this item. >> Thank you, Miss Owens. >> Thank you. Um, yes. Since the creation of the environmental advisory board, they have been a committed me group of uh diverse individuals who have been a sounding board and some some of the biggest environmental policies that we've talked about are passed in the city. And so we're grateful for their commitment and their service. And so we recognize that diversity does matter and the people around the table does matter. And so I am also excited to to know that uh people are are you know we've had increased participation and interest uh of of being on this committee and so we can affirm our commitment to environmental policies. And so uh extending those seats from I think 14 to 18 sorry um is is 14 to 19 is the the way that we need to go. Other comments? >> Roll call on passage, please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Items 39 through 41 are as indicated. Item 42, first reading, please. >> An emergency ordinance authorizing the transfer and appropriation of $79,345.81 81 cents from the unappropriated surplus of miscellaneous permanent improvement fund to existing capital improvement program project account. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Mr. Nolan. >> As indicated, this ordinance authorizes the use of proceeds uh from the sale of obsolete automotive and motorized equipment for the purchase of new equipment. >> Further comments. >> Roll call on passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Pro call emergency. Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Item 43, first reading, please. >> An emergency ordinance establishing new capital improvement program project account, golf facilities improvements. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. Council member Albby. >> Council member James. >> Yes. >> Council member Jeff. >> Yes. >> Council member Johnson. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney. >> Yes. >> Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nolan. >> Due to changes in the timeline for the replacement of the Newman Golf Course Clubhouse and other funding availability, funds are being reallocated within Cincinnati Recreation Commission for other golf course related capital improvement needs. Uh, Chair Jeff Kermining would want me to remind you that these are enterprise funds completely self- sustained within the golf programs and are not tax revenue. >> Further comments. >> Roll call on passage. >> Council member Owens. >> Yes. >> Council member Walsh. >> Yes. >> Council member Albby. >> Yes. >> Council member James. >> Yes. >> Council member Jeff. >> Yes. >> Council member Johnson. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney? >> Yes. >> Council member Nolan? >> Yes. >> Roll call. emergency. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Item 44, first reading, please. Ordinance B version amending ordinance number 129-2022 to increase the amount of sub amount of a grant subawward that the city manager is authorized to apply for accept and appropriate from $36,000 to $42,515. >> Roll call and suspension, please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. Yes. Vice Mayor Kernney. >> Yes. >> Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nolan. >> Uh, as indicated, this ordinance increases the amount of a subawward the city manager can accept from $36,000 to $42,515 for services provided by the police department. >> Further comments? Miss Alvie? >> Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to highlight uh, you know, this is going towards addressing domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault, and stalking. Um there was uh reporting earlier this year about uh between um kind of summer 2024 and summer 2025 uh domestic violence fatalities hit a new peak in Ohio. Uh here in Cincinnati, we've seen increases in strangulation which can often correlate with domestic violence incidences. Uh so really excited to see additional funding to tackle this. uh grateful as well for our partnerships with uh women helping women who uh with our diver divert program goes and supports uh survivors of domestic violence. So uh want to add a little bit of context and be and just grateful this work is underway. >> Thank you. Further comments. >> Roll call on passage, please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Item 45 is the A version of uh the B version that you just passed on item number 44. So I'll make a motion to indefinitely postpone item number 45. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Nolan. Um any discussion? Seeing none, roll call on the motion to indefinitely postpone item number 45, please. >> Council member Owens. >> Yes. Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Thank you. Item 46, first reading, please. >> An emergency ordinance authorizing the city manager to accept an inkind donation of six Trek Service electronic mountain bikes. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Nolan, as indicated, this is an ordinance accepting an inind donation from the Cincinnati Fire Foundation of six electric mountain bikes and one bike towable stretcher and accessories valued at $33,700. And we thank the Cincinnati Buyer Foundation for their donation. >> Thank you. Further comments? Roll call in passage, please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Roll call emergency. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. >> Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Item 47, first reading, please. >> An emergency ordinance authorizing the payment of $4,742.50 from the Emergency Communication Center general fund non-personnel operating budget account. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. Mr. Nolan, >> as indicated, this is a moral obligation payment of $4,742.50 from Emergency Communication Center to Central Square Technologies LLC for annual maintenance fees for software. >> Further comments. >> Roll call and passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Roll call on emergency, please. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council members Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. Item 48, first reading, >> an emergency ordinance authorizing a payment of $14,750 from the Cincinnati Police Department criminal activity forfeite state fund non-personnel operating budget account. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Mr. Nolan, >> as indicated, this is a moral obligation payment of $14,750 from Cincinnati Police Department to the Star Chapter Foundation for the Star Youth Bowling Program. >> Further comments, >> Mr. Chair, >> Mr. John, President Johnson. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, this um I would like to salute Sergeant Anthony Mitchell. He does an amazing work with the Star Chapter Foundation on this bowling program. They have actually the Star Chapter Foundation um is um leads also in giving away scholarships, but young people have earned bowling scholarships through this program and uh Sergeant Mitchell does a great job. Just very briefly, if you come and you're a participant in the bowling program, I think it's seven or eight weeks, uh, go to the Star Chapter Foundation and that that information is there, but you get your own personalized bowling ball fitted and engraved, your name is engraved in it and all that good stuff. So, uh, Sergeant Mitchell does amazing work along with the Star Chapter Foundation. And as I said, there's been a couple of young people that have earned bowling scholarships to college as a result of this program. So, salute to the Cincinnati Police Department, uh, Sergeant Mitchell, and the Star Chapter Foundation. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you. That's fantastic. Further comments. >> Roll call and passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. Council member Nolan. >> Yes. Roll call in emergency. >> Council member Owens. >> Yes. >> Council member Walsh. >> Yes. >> Council member Albi. >> Yes. >> Council member James. >> Yes. >> Council member Jeff. >> Yes. >> Council member Johnson. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney. >> Yes. >> Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Item 49. First reading, please. An emergency ordinance authorizing a payment of $4,675 from the Cincinnati Recreation Commission Recreation Special Activities Fund Non-personnel Operating Budget Account >> to Juggler Dave and Friends. Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Mr. Nolan, tell us about this one. >> Uh, this is a moral obligation payment from the Cincinnati Recreation Commission to Juggler Dave and Friends for entertainment services provided last summer. We appreciate Juggler Dave and Friends for taking on multiple tasks and like many of us many of our service providers not dropping the ball. >> Oh no, >> further comments. >> Cannot resist. I was like, he's >> roll call on passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Roll call emergency. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> Item 50, first reading, please. >> An emergency legislative resolution designating specific city personnel to request advances from the auditor of Hamilton County as required by sections 321.34 of the Ohio Revised Code. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes, Council Member Nolan. >> Yes, Mr. Nolan. Uh, as indicated, this ordinance is designating specific city personnel to request advances from the Hamilton County Auditor and requesting that the county auditor and treasurer pay those advances to the city treasury from taxes in the county treasury. >> Thank you. Further comments? Roll call and passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. Yes. Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Roll call in emergency. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member Council Member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Item 51, first reading, please. >> An ordinance dedicating, accepting, and confirming the dedication to public use of approximately 0.065 0656 acre tract of real property as a portion of Beachmont Avenue. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albby, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Nolan. >> This ordinance uh dedicates and accepts a piece of real property located on Beach Mount Avenue in Mount Washington for public use as a right of way to facilitate installation of an updated traffic signal. >> Further comments. Roll call on passage. >> Council member Owens. >> Yes. >> Council member Walsh. >> Yes. >> Council member Albi? >> Yes. >> Council member James? >> Yes. >> Council member Jeff? >> Yes. >> Council member Johnson? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney? >> Yes. >> Council member Nolan? >> Yes. Item 52, first reading, please. >> An ordinance modifying chapter 509, parking meters of the Cincinnati Municipal Code, by amending sections 509-2, types of parking meters, 509-5, parking in metered spaces or spaces requiring pavement, and 509-7 unmetered parking. >> Roll call and suspension. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. >> Council member Nolan, >> yes. >> Mr. Nolan, as indicated, this is an ordinance updating the on street parking requirements in our municipal code with current best practices and useful technology for the parking industry. >> Further comments. >> Roll call on passage. >> Council member Owens, >> yes. >> Council member Walsh, >> yes. >> Council member Albi, >> yes. >> Council member James, >> yes. >> Council member Jeff, >> yes. >> Council member Johnson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kernney, >> yes. Yes. >> Council member Nolan. >> Yes. >> That concludes the business portion of our agenda. Thank you all so much. City Manager Long, do you have any announcements? >> I have no announcements, Mayor. Thank you. >> Thank you. Further announcements from council. Vice Mayor, then Miss Albby. >> Thank you. Just want to mention that everyone knows Monday is Dr. Martin Luther King uh holiday. Um, the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center has their MLK breakfast at 8 am, but doors open at 7:30 a.m. So, I know you want to get up early and get out there. Uh, it might be snowing, but all will go as planned. 10:00 is the nice brisk march from the Freedom Center to Washington Park. the uh the Martin Luther King Coalition will have um their inspirational service at noon at Memorial Hall and Own Cincy is having a free home ownership workshop 11 a.m. to 100 p.m. at uh back at the Freedom Center. Um and I didn't know if Council Member Johnson wanted to mention the Sentinels as a former uh president of the Sentinels. Their dinner is uh Saturday night, so I'll I'll let you handle that. But um look forward to seeing everybody bright and early at the Freedom Center Monday morning, 7:30 a.m. >> Mr. Johnson, please. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um yeah. Yes. Thank you, Vice Mayor. the the Sentinel Police Association will be having their MLK banquet Saturday out of the Delta Hotel in Springdale. I think that's Sharonville. Unfortunately, it's sold out for anybody that's interested, but it's good for the Sentinel Police Association and the amazing work they've done over the years. Um, so yes, uh, thank you, Vice Mayor, and I have a happy belated founders day to ACM Bailey and the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. And to our own vice mayor, happy founders days to the beautiful ladies of Alpha Cappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated, which is, I believe, tomorrow. >> Tomorrow. Yes. >> Yes. So, I can't I got to make sure I I uh juggle and do them get them both. Mr. Nolan, that juggling act that you talked about. So, thank you very much, mayor. >> Thank you. And Delta Days will be here February 25th. So, Delta Sigma Theta will be here for everyone to to talk to them and see them and hear about the great work they do. And they'll meet with all council members February 25th. I think AMA Owens, our offices are working together on that. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Albby. >> I just have a fun little update. Uh my brother Luke and his wife Callie welcomed the newest member of the Albi family on Monday. So congratulations to them and welcome baby Caleb to the world. >> Wonderful. Congratulations. Further announcements, Mr. Jeff. >> Yeah, first I want to thank our colleague, Mr. Nolan, for the dad humor. That was uh well placed. Uh very good. Also want to welcome Jenna Schaefer. She's a fellow in our office. Um she'll be working in our office over the next few months on a couple different projects. So if you see her around, welcome her. Welcome. Further announcements? Seeing none, meeting adjourned. Thank you.