>>COUN. PEÑA: WELCOME, EVERYONE. TODAY IS THE 13th MEETING OF THE 27th COUNCIL. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL MOVE TO THE PLEDGE, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE FIRST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, EVERYONE. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAMBER ENTRANCES. YOU CAN VIEW THIS IN PERSON AND LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOURPLATEFIRMS. GOVTV GOVTV, GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED, YOU MAY ENABLE THE SERVICES AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEW ONG THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED HELP FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE BREAK AT 7 P.M. IF NEEDED. WE WANT TONIGHT MEETING TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS OR APPLAUSE OR SNAPPING OR OUTBURSTS. THE PRESIDENT WILL PROVIDE ONE WARNING, UPON A SECOND DISRUPTION SECURITY WILL BE ASKED TO ESCORT THE PERSON OUT OF THE CHAMBERS. SUCH REMOVAL WILL BE EFFECTIVE INTEREST THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING. IF CONTINUED DISRUPTION OCCUR, THE PRESIDENT MAY RECESS THE MEETING UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED AND IF NECESSARY MAY CLEAR THE CHAMBERS OF PERSONS PARTICIPATING IN THE DISTURBANCE. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. COUNCIL STAFF RECEIVED OVER 100 PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. PURSUANT TO THE COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES, PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE REDUCED TO ONE MINUTE TO ALLOW EVERYONE TIME TO SPEAK. PLEASE BEGIN EDITING YOUR COMMENTS TO FIT WITHIN THIS TIME FRAME NOW. COUNCILORS, AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION IS FOR APD. I SEE THE CHIEF OF STAFF COMING IN. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. ROGERS: HELLO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. OF COURSE, WE ALL HEARD ABOUT THE THREE OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IN ONE WEEK. I'M VERY CONCERNED. ACS -- I THINK YOU'LL BE NEXT. SPECIFICALLY, ONE WHERE WE HAD A MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY, I THINK MY QUESTION IS WHY WAS ACS NOT DISPATCHED TO THAT CALL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE BEST IS IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO A COMPLETE DIVE. THESE INVESTIGATIONS, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT OCCURS AFTER THE INCIDENTS. SO, PART OF THAT IS FACT GATHERINGS AS TO ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES LEADING TO THE INCIDENT, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE INCIDENT AND ALSO WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS. SO, THERE WILL BE A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION THAT HAPPENS WHERE WE'LL BE TRANSPARENT AND RELEASE ALL THE FINDINGS. I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS DONE SO WE KNOW ALL THE FACTS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU FOR THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE OOG TO I'D LIKE TO GO TO ACS TO FIND OUT IF THEY LOOKED INTO THAT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND FOUND OUT WHY ACS -- FOR THE ONE THAT THE FAMILY CALLED 911 BECAUSE HE WAS FEELING LIKE HE WANTED TO HARM HIMSELF. I'M INTERESTED WHY ACS IS NOT DISPATCHED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOLD DEAR TO OUR MISSION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO. WORKING DIRECTLY WITH APD AND EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER. OUR GOAL IS TO BE ONCE APD IS ABLE TO FINISH EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID DURING THE 911 CALL AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH APD, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. REALLY, ECHOING WHAT APD SAID. LETTING THE INVESTIGATION PLAY OUT IN A WAY THAT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHEN AND WHY EVERYTHING GOT DISPATCHED THE WAY IT DID THAT WE KNOW. IF THERE'S GROWTH FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT, WE CAN -- I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATIONS CENTER IN THE WAY THEY TRIAGE CALLS FOR US. WE -- IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE RUN EVERYTHING THROUGH THEM. AND THAT SAFETY ELEMENT IS IMPORTANT FOR RESPONDERS. WE'RE ALSO THANKFUL FOR THEM. ALWAYS UNDERSTANDING THERE'S ROOM FOR GROWTH AND THEY'RE OPEN ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING I CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT. THE DISPATCH DISCONNECT WE SOMETIMES HAVE. LUCKILY, KNOWING THIS PERSON HAD A WEAPON -- WE KNOW APD WOULD HAVE BEEN IT THE RIGHT RESPONDER TO BEGIN WITH. I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CALL ON THE DISPATCH CALL. AND WHAT I'M HEARING DIRECTLY FROM THE FAMILY ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK THAT'S THE ONE I'M REALLY WANTING US TO DIG IN. OBVIOUSLY, A LOSS OF LIFE IN ANY CASE IS NOT OUR DESIRED OUT CANCOME. TO SEE WE HAVE THREE IN ONE WEEK OF FIVE-DAY SPAN IS ABSOLUTELY CONCERNING. I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO STOP THAT FROM CONTINUING TO HAPPEN. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THAT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP FOR PUBLIC IS THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC DISPATCH RULES ON WHEN APD CAN BE SENT OUT AND WHEN ACS SHOULD BE SENT OUT AND EVEN WHEN FIRE IS SENT OUT. FIRE HAS THEIR OWN DISPATCHERS SO THEY MAKE SURE THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP. ACS ISN'T DOING THAT. ACS ISN'T DISPATCHING THEIR OWN. IN THE DISPATCH CENTER WE HAVE ONE OR TWO FOLKS THE HELP. I THINK THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO ONCE AND FOR ALL FIGURE THAT OUT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY. LAST COMMENT, -- NOT FOR THIS TOPIC. WE HAD OUR INTERNATIONAL FEST AT PHIL CHACON PARK. I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO REMARKS AND RECK. PARKS AND REC. THEY WERE AMAZING IN HELPING ALL THE STAFF. IT WAS AN AMAZING EVENT. I WANT TO SHOUT OUT PARKS RECK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US ACTIVATE THE WHOLE PARK. IT WAS 4500 PEOPLE COMING TO THE PHIL CHACON PARK. THANK YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DIRECTOR, DID YOU WANT -- YOU CAME DOWN -- I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT AS WELL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTIGATIONS WE'RE JUST AS CONCERNED AS EVERYONE ELSE. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE THEM BACK TO BACK. I COME FROM A PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING ON BOTH SIDES. APD AND -- THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DEPLOYING. I SPOKE WITH OUR 911 OPERATOR TO FIND OUT. THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS. AND WHAT WAS SAID AND THE TONE OF EVERYTHING SETS THE TONE AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING. AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE REGARDLESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: COUNCILOR TELLES, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, IS IT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS? GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, AS YOU LOOK INTO EVERYTHING AND DO YOUR FACT FINDING, I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE DISPATCH PROTOCOL COULD BE AT HIGH RISK FOR NON-COMPLIANCE DUE TO CHRONIC UNDERSTAFFING, LIMITED WELLNESS SUPPORT WITHIN THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, LACK OF FIRST RESPONDER RECOGNITION AND THE DEMAND OF EXTENDED 16-HOUR SHIFTS THAT ARE BEING PLACED ON IT DISPATCHED PERSONNEL RIGHT NOW. DURING YOUR FACT FINDING, AS YOU'RE REVIEWING, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER AND ASK YOURSELF -- IF THEY'RE NOT SO OVER WORKED AND HAD ACCESS TO WELLNESS RESOURCES, AND RECOGNIZED AS FIRST RESPONDERS, WERE NOT ROUTINELY WORKING 16-HOUR SHIFTS, DO YOU THINK THE DISCONNECT VOLUME WOULD DECREASE. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HOPE YOU WILL THINK DURING YOUR FACT FINDING AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HOW WE ADDRESS AND HOW WE MAKE SURE DISPATCHERS HAVE THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, YES. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ON ALL THOSE. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL THOSE FACTORS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. I DID WANT TO MENTION WE HAD THE WEST SIDE NEW WEST SIDE YMCA OPENED UP OVER THE WEEKEND. I JOINED THE MAYOR IN THE RIBBON CUTTING. I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND HIS AND TO THE YMCA, A GREAT FACILITY THAT WILL SERVE THOUSANDS OF FAMIIES ON THE WEST SIDEP. -- SIDE. QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MS. SENGEL. BACK IN THE LAST MAYOR'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS. HE MADE STATEMENTS ABOUT REDUCING FEES FOR RESTAURANTS. SOME PROMISES THAT WERE MADE -- I THINK EVERYONE IN THE MEDIA HERE TONIGHT ALL REPORTED ON THAT. SOME OF THEM REPORTED THAT THE MAYOR -- THE MAYOR'S STATEMENTS SAID HE WOULD CUT RESTAURANT FEES, RECOGNIZING THEY WERE PRETTY HIGH. SOME OF THE STATIONS REPORTED THAT THE MAYOR HAD SAID THAT HE WOULD REDUCE ALL FEES FOR RESTAURANTS. THAT WAS BEING REPORTED. AND THEY ASKED YOU TO GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND YOU WERE QUOTED IN THE PAPER AND OTHER NEWS OUTLETS SAYING THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT SAYING THAT THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL -- THE MAYOR WOULD PUSH TO REDUCE -- NOT DO AWAY WITH RESTAURANT FEES OR SOME OF THE PERMITS, PERMITTING FEES, BUT REDUCE THOSE FEES. I'M WONDERING WHY WAS THAT PROPOSAL NOT IN THE -- IN YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL THIS YEAR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I BELIEVE WHAT I WED -- SAID IS THE PROPOSALS WE WOULD NOT INCREASE PROPOSALS TO FEES WHICH RELATED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY, WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT PROPOSE INCREASES TO RESTAURANTS OR HEALTH PERMITS. IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN WE DID OUR PREVIOUS FEE PROPOSAL WHERE WE SHIFTED HOW WE WERE DOING INSPECTIONS FOR FOOD, WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH CITY COUNCIL TO REDUCE THE IMPACT TO SMALL BUSINESSES, AND MICRO BUSINESSES TO PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE AND PROCEDURES. I THINK THAT REFLECTED OUR COMMITMENT TO RECOGNIZING THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE HEALTH AND RESTAURANT -- OR OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES -- AND THE IMPACT TO THEM. WE DID NOT PROPOSE ANY SHIFT OR IF CREASE IN RESTAURANT INSPECTION FEES, EVEN THOUGH I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT THE DEPARTMENT MADE THE ADJUSTMENT BASED UPON THE WORKLOAD ASSOCIATED -- NOT THE WORKLOAD TO AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT BASED UPON THE TYPE OF INSPECTION WE HAVE TO DO, THE VARIETY OF INSPECTIONS WE'RE DOING TO ENSURE WE'RE MEETING THE STANDARD AND INSPECTING BUSINESSES UNIQUELY AND DIFFERENTLY BASED UPON THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY ARE. I THINK I WAS QUOTED MULTIPLE TIMES. I THINK IT WAS RELATED TO THE FACT OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW BUDGET WOULD NOT PROPOSE INCREASED TO FEES AND THAT IS WHAT WE RELATED TO THE RESTAURANTS WE DID NOT DO. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T SAYING YOU WEREN'T GOING TO INCREASE, YOU CLEARLY SAID THE MAYOR WAS PROPOSING TO DECREASE FEES ON RESTAURANTS. DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MINDS? DID THE MAYOR CHANGE HIS MIND? THERE'S NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT NOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO REDUCE FEES OR REDUCE COSTS TO BUSINESSES OR OTHERS. I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PERFECTED AND THE CHANGE WE HAD RELATED TO THE FEE STRUCTURE, I'M HAPPY TO DO MORE EVALUATION ON THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A CHANGE IN MIND. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REALITIES RELATED TO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BUDGET CHALLENGES WE HAD THIS YEAR WEILATED TO VERY LOW GROWTH IN GRT. AND INCREASE IN PAY FOR EMPLOYEES. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT BUDGETARY POSITION TODAY THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN PREVIOUS BUDGET YEARS WITH THE CHALLENGING YEAR FOR ALL OF US TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET TO KEEP ALL OF THE SERVICES WE HAVE AT THE CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU SAID WE CHANGED OUR MINDS OR WE COULDN'T DO IT OR WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE. I THINK THAT WILL BE MORE HONEST. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A BOSS YOU WORKED FOR THAT CHANGED HIS MIND AND IT'S NOT A PRIORITY FOR HIM ANYMORE. AGAIN, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE BE SOME KIND OF PROPOSAL, EVEN A PROPOSAL IF YOU FELT LIKE LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNCIL -- AFTER MAKING SUCH STRONG STATEMENTS THAT EVERY ONE OF THE MEDIA OUTLETS REPORTED ON AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON TV AND PRINT AND EXPECTATIONS THAT RESTAURANTS WOULD GET A PRETTY BIG RELIEF TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF COST THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY. LET ME -- ANOTHER QUESTION. TONIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THE 25% MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL PROPOSED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE WORKED ALONGSIDE MULTIPLE COUNCILORS RELATED TO MINIMUM WAGE BILL THAT IS BEFORE YOU ALL. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF A 25% MINIMUM WAGE? I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE IT CAME FROM YOU ALL. I GOT CALLS FROM YOUR OFFICE AND YOUR STAFF CALLED ALL THE COUNCILORS SAYING THIS IS OUR PRIORITY AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, RIGHT? >> YES, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF INCREASES TO MINIMUM WAGE FOR OUR WORKERS AND OUR COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU OWNING IT. 25% INCREASE TO MINIMUM WAGE WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT FOR FINAL ACTION. SINCE YOU PROPOSED IT, IN THAT PROCESS OF PREPARING IT, GIVING TO COUNCILORS TO SPONSOR IT, AND WORKING WITH THEM ON IT, WAS THERE AN ECONOMIC STUDY DONE OR ECONOMIC IMPACT DONE ON HOW IT IMPACTS SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOW WOULD IT IMPACT THE OVERALL ECONOMY OF THE CITY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, OUR STAFF LOOKED INTO MULTIPLE MARKET FACTORS AS WELL AS LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES AND LOOKED ACROSS THE STATE AS WELL AS REGION RELATED TO SIMILAR WAGE INCREASES OR ORDINANCES. MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ANALYSIS WAS DONE. THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL IMPACT STUDY THAT SIN YOUR IS IN YOUR RULES WAS NOT CONDUCTED AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. A REAL ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY WASN'T DONE. HOW ABOUT ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT POWER OUR ECONOMY IN THIS CITY? BACK WHEN YOU WERE PROPOSING THIS TO THE COUNCIL, WERE THERE ANY CONVERSATIONS OR FEEDBACK DURING THAT TIME ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY? RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY, SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS -- ANY FEEDBACK TO THE BILL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I BELIEVE WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH BUSINESS. I THINK OFFICIAL FEEDBACK THOUGHT WAS NOT DURING THIS SPECIFIC TIME. THE PREVIOUS MINIMUM WAGE PROPOSALS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS RELATED TO THIS MATTER. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS OBVIOUSLY WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE INCREASE OF MINIMUM WAGE. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, NO FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE INDUSTRY -- THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THIS THE MOST. NOTHING. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HONEST ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. FOR CAO SENGEL, WHEN WAS THE DECISION MADE TO CLOSE 311 ON SUNDAYS AND WHY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M HAPPY TO START -- I ALSO HAVE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER LEON HERE WHO DID MUCH OF THE ANALYSIS WITH THE 311 OPERATIONS. THAT SAID -- THIS IS RELATED TO AN ANALYSIS OF THE CALL VOLUME RELATED TO 311. AND THE DEMAND WE HAVE FOR CALLS THAT ARE BEYOND THE REGULAR HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. THEY DID A FULL ANALYSIS OF CALL VOLUME AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ENSURING THAT WE CAN BE AVAILABLE AND HAVE TIMELY RESPONSE DURING IT THE HOURS WE RECEIVE MORE CALLS THAN OTHERS. IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ANYONE THAT HAS A 311 MATTER, THEY CAN SUBMIT THOSE ON SUNDAYS. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU CANNOT SUBMIT A 311 TICKET. IT'S SIMPLY JUST BY PHONE YOU CAN'T. THE APP AND ONLINE FORM STILL WORK ON SUNDAYS. THEY'RE BEING TRIAGED BY SUPERVISOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE GOING TO DEPARTMENTS AND ENSURE THEY'RE GETTING OUT. THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW WE CAN ENSURE WE CAN PROVIDE MORE SERVICE AT THE TIMES WE HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CALL VOLUME. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THIS A PERMANENT CHANGE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION TO CALL VOLUME AND FEEDBACK WE GET. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS BASED UPON AN ENSURING THAT WE CAN SERVE AT THE TIMES MOST NEEDED. IF WE SEE A DIFFERENT TREND AND SEE CALLS COME IN THAT ARE NOT ANSWERED, WE WOULD ADJUST BASED UPON THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THE 768-HELP LINE GOES TO 311. ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE ONLY SUPPOSED TO NEED HELP MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT MIGHT BE A PHONE TREE ROUTING ISSUE WE NEED TO SOLVE. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. NOT INTENDED TO BE WITHOUT SERVICE ON SUNDAYS. I'M SURPRISED IT'S ROUTED THAT WAY. I WILL CHECK INTO THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. CAN PEOPLE LEAVE A MESSAGE AT 311? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I THINK IT'S PREFERRED THAT FOLKS DON'T DO THAT. WE PREFER THE CALLS TO BE ROUTED DIFFERENTLY. LET ME CHECK. >>COUN. GROUT: I ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE I CALLED YESTERDAY. YOU CAN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE. >> PERHAPS, YOU CAN ANSWER THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. I CAN DEFINITELY VERIFY IF WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO RECORD A MESSAGE WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT IS YOUR TYPICAL CALL VOLUME ON SUNDAYS? >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN PROVIDE THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: HOW MUCH DO WE SAVE BY NOT HAVING CALLS ON SUNDAYS? >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A MATTER OF SAVING AS BEING ABLE TO REALLOCATE AND REOPTIMIZE OUR RESOURCE ALLOCATION. MAKE SURE WE CAN MORE APPROPRIATELY REALLOCATE THOSE RESOURCES AT HIGH VOLUME PERIODS. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK WE SHOULD REVISIT THIS POLICY. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. THIS IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES. THIS IS A SCENARIO. I'M GOING TO PLAY -- PUT A PICTURE IN YOUR HEAD. SOMEBODY CALLS # 911. THERE'S DOWN-AND-OUT. 911 ROUTES IT TO ACS. ACS GOES TO THE INDIVIDUAL. THEY GET THERE AND DECIDE THEY NEED TO CALL AFR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EMTs. NOW WE'VE DELAYED THAT TREATMENT -- AFR IS GETTING THERE ON TIME. SO AFR REALIZES THIS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS TO GO TO THE MEDICAL SOBERING CENTER. HE NEEDS TO SOBER UP AND HYDRATE AND ALL THE THINGS. SO THEY CALL ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE. AND ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE SHOWS UP AND THEY -- AFR SAYS WE NEED TO TAKE THIS FELLA TO THE MEDICAL SOBERING CENTER. THE ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE SAYS I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY'LL TURN ME AWAY, I'LL JUST TAKE THEM TO UNMH. I SEE A FEW PROBLEMS. THIS SCENARIO IS REAL. IT HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES. THERE'S A DISCONNECT. WE'RE NOT GETTING SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS HELP -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THIS. IT'S A PROBLEM. WE JUST USED A WHOLE BUNCH OF RESOURCES AND WE STILL HAVEN'T ADDRESSED WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO WITH THE MEDICAL SOBERING. I THINK HHH NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THE PROVIDER TO SEE WHY THEY'RE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY. THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE TO THE STORY. I HEARD THIS SEVERAL TIMES. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME. >> MADAM -- >>COUN. GROUT: I'LL -- I WANT TO REACH OUT -- THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL IN MY DISTRICT THAT WAS HAVING A MENTAL ISSUE. AND SWAT WAS CALLED AND APD WAS CALLED. I ASKED IF ACS WAS CALLED AND THEY SAID NO. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE POLICIES, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WHEN SOMEBODY IS HAVING A MENTAL ISSUE, THAT IS WHAT ACS IS THERE FOR. IT HELP WITH THOSE CALLS. THE GOOD NEWS IS NOBODY WAS HURT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. AGAIN, IT WAS JUST -- I'M JUST NOT SURE OUR PROCESS -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO. I WANT THINGS TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY. EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AND WISELY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET SEVERAL THINGS ON THE RECORD. FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THE PROTOCOLS RELATED TO MEDICAL ISSUES, AS WELL AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND HOW THEY INTERSECT WITH OUR 911 DISPATCH CENTER. SPECIFICALLY, I'M TURN IT OVER TO THE FIRE CHIEF. A DOWN-AND-OUT IS IS A MEDICAL EVENT. IF IT'S A CALL INTO 911, AND THAT'S DESCRIBED, IT'S CONSIDERED MEDICAL EVENT AND EMS IS DISPATCHED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE CHIEF HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS HOW THAT WORKS AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT AFR AND ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE AND THE MEDICAL SOBERING CENTER HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THE TRANSPORT CHALLENGE. I THINK WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'LL START WITH THE QUESTION RELATED TO RESPONSE TO A DOWN-AND-OUT CALL. DOWN-AND-OUT IS A TERM USED FOR A CLUSTER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS THAT AFR OR ACS WOULD RESPOND TO. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS IF THE PERSON CALLING IT IN STOPS AND TALKS TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND ASKS THEM QUESTIONS, THOSE QUESTIONS GET OUTLINED BY OUR DISPATCHERS WHICH ARE ALL FIREFIGHTERS AND EMTS. THEY'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THEY HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY VERSUS MAYBE JUST IN NEED OF SHELTER. A LOT OF THESE CALLS COME INTO 911 WITHOUT SOMEBODY STOPPING. THEY JUST SEE SOMEBODY ON A BENCH. THEY MAY ASSUME THEY'RE SLEEPING. THOSE CALLS WOULD BE ROUTED THROUGH APD DISPATCH TO ACS AND THEY WOULD RESPOND. THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST RESPONDER TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND AT THAT POINT BECAUSE IT'S A THIRD PARTY CALLER THEY WOULD EITHER DETERMINE THAT PERSON DOES NOT HAVE ANY MEDICAL NEEDS OR IF THEY HAVE MEDICAL NEEDS THE ACS RESPONDERS ARE TRAINED TO ASK QUESTIONS TO GET THE PROPE -- AFR RESPONSE. TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED, IF THEY'RE SERIOUSLY INTOXICATED AND IN NEED OF MEDICAL CARE AND TRANSPORT, THAT'S A CALL WE WORKED THROUGH WITH ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE AND OUR RESPONSE THAT ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE WOULD RESPOND TO OUT AFR BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGH TRANSPORT RATE. REALLY, THE KEY TO DETERMINING WHO GOES INITIALLY AND KEEP IT EFFICIENT IS FOR THAT CALLER TO ACTUALLY ASK -- STOP AND ASK THE PERSON WHAT SERVICES THEY NEED. WE ALSO KNOW THAT'S NOT A REALITY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN AND YOU SEE SOMEBODY LAYING ON THE STREET. MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP. THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SAFE AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CALL. WE REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT STOP TO QUESTION SO WE CAN GET THE MOST EFFICIENT RESPONSE POSSIBLE FROM THE VERY START OF THE CALL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. TO COMPLICATE MATTERS EVEN MORE, WE DO RECEIVE A LIST FROM AFR EARLY IN THE BEGINNING OF EACH WEEK FOR ANY OF THE CALLS OR POTENTIAL TRANSPORT TO MEDICAL SOBERING BECAUSE IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. THEY REPORT TO US WHO HAS BEEN TRANSPORTED, WHO DENIED TRANSPORT, AND ALSO WHY AFR MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND AT OUR WEEKLY MEETING WE REVIEW THE DATA FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. I, ALONG WITH AFR, ACS, AND OUR PROVIDER DO REVIEW TRANSPORTS AND INTAKES OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEK. I WOULD ENCOURAGE -- IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME, LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN LOOK DIRECTLY INTO WHY ANYONE WOULD BE DENIED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. IT WAS THE TRANSPORT THAT SAID THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE DENIED DROPPING THEM OFF. >> THERE ARE SPECIFIC MEDICAL CRITERIA THAT CLIENTS NEED TO MEET IN ORDER TO COME TO MEDICAL SOBERERING. ONE OF THOSE IS THEY HAVE TO COME TO STANDING WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT ASSISTANCE. SOMETIMES WE DO SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR MEDICAL SOBERERING DUE TO INABILITY TO SELF-AMBULATE. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S INTERESTING. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T PICK THEM UP AND MOVE THEM. WHY CAN'T YOU ASSIST THEM? IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU CAN'T HELP THEM? IF THEY'RE -- DO THEY NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR WORKED WITH THE MEDICAL DIRECTION FROM MED-SOBERING TO DETERMINE CRITERIA THAT WOULD -- WHERE WE WOULDN'T SEND REALLY SICK PEOPLE. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE DETOXING, WHETHER FROM ALCOHOL OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUBSTANCES YOU HAVE OTHER MEDICAL ISSUES GOING ON. WE HAVE A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT OUR PROVIDERS FOLLOW THAT WE HAVE TO SEE VITAL SIGN PARAMETERS. ONE OF THEM IS, YES, THE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN ABSOLUTELY MOVE THEM TO A BED, BUT ONCE THEY GET INTO MED-SOBERING, A LOT OF TIMES THIS CAN CREATE OTHER ISSUES WHEN THE INDIVIDUALS ARE SO INTOXICATED THAT THEY CAN'T WALK. IT USUALLY MEANS THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOES ON WITH VITAL SIGNS, WHICH ALL WORKS TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHY THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WE CAN'T TAKE THERE. THERE'S TOO MANY COMORBIDITIES. THEY NEED TO BE ASSESSED IN THE ER. ONCE THEY FALL INTO THE PARAMETERS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON HOW WE CAN HAVE THEM TRANSPORTED FROM THERE TO MED-SOBERING TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY INTERESTING. VERY INTERESTING. I THINK THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE IRONED OUT A BIT. THE SCENARIO I MENTIONED, THE AMBULANCE IMMEDIATELY SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY TURN US AWAY OFTEN. SO, DOES THE AMBULANCE -- ARE THEY TURNING THEM AWAY BECAUSE OF THE CRITERIA THEY'RE NOT MEETING? IS THERE A COMMUNICATION -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S MISSING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IF WE KNOW THE EXACT DATE OF THE INCIDENT, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT SPECIFIC CREW BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE -- I'M CURIOUS WHAT OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES WERE GOING ON. THEY MAY HAVE SAID THEY WOULD BE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEIR VITAL SIGNS DIDN'T MEET THE PARAMETERS TO GO. OR THEY FELT -- OR IF THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE WEEKLY MEETING WITH ALL THE SERVICES AND PROVIDERS TO WORK THROUGH THINGS LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING ON IT THE FIRST RESPONDER SIDE OR IT COULD BE THEY'RE GETTING TURNED AWAY. I KNOW WE DID HAVE TO WORK A COUPLE OF COMMUNICATION ISSUES EARLY ON. OUR RESPONDERS HAD CONFUSION ON THINGS LIKE THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. I HOPE IT GETS FIXED. AND IT'S MUCH SMOOTHER FOR EVERYBODY. THE PATIENTS, AND THE RESPONDERS, AND DOCTORS. JUST EVERYBODY. WE NEED TO MAKE IT EFFICIENT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IF I MAY ADD, WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION ISSUES. AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY FOCUSED EFFORT ON EDUCATION AND TRAINING WITH ALL OF THE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND PARTNER GROUPS. GENERAL POPULATION IN THE COMMUNITY -- TO REALLY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MEDICAL SOBERING CAN DO AND RECOGNIZING THE COMMUNITY IT WILL BENEFIT IS BROADER THAN POTENTIAL DOWN-AND-OUT POPULATIONS. WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF ENERGY INTO THAT COMMUNICATION WORK. I THINK THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY TO GET BETTER. I SUSPECT THEIR WEEKLY MEETINGS ARE GETTING BETTER IN TERMS OF -- WE'RE BEING MORE SUCCESSFUL. WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER ALL THE TIME AND WE FOCUSED IN ON THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT AS FAR AS HOW LONG THE DIRECTORS CAN STAY. ANYTHING AFTER 5:30, WE HAVE TO DIRECT TO THE CAO. >>COUN. GROUT: I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THIS SATURDAY IS OUR 5th ANNUAL EVENT. IT'S AT JUAN TABO AND CENTRAL. IT'S A LOVELY EVENT. ALL OF THE CITY TRUCKS AND POLICE CARS AND FIRE TRUCKS AND THE FRONTLOADERS AND AVIATION AND SNOW MOVING MACHINES ARE THERE. IT'S A FREE EVENT FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S FROM 10:00 TO NOON. THERE'S FOOD TRUCKS AND LOTS OF VENDS. IT'S FREE TO EVERYBODY. I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO TAKE YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN AND ENJOY IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR TELLES, BEFORE WE GO TO YOURS NEXT. MADAM CAO, AT THIS POINT I THINK THE QUESTIONS WOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU. GUYS, THERE'S LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET IN HERE TONIGHT. WE CAN'T RESERVE SEATS FOR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HERE. IT'S FIRST COME BASIS. ACCOMMODATE FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO SIT. I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S -- OUTSIDE IN THE WAITING AREA WE HAVE IT TELEVISED SO IF THERE'S A SEAT AVAILABLE YOU CAN MOVE IN. PLEASE ACCOMMODATE FOR EVERYONE COMING IN. COUNCILOR TELLES. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. REALLY QUICKLY, THIS IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. WE PASSED R-23-127 BACK IN JUNE OF 23. AND WE HAVE YET TO GET ONE OF THE ANNUAL REPORTS ON THAT. I'VE ASKED ABOUT IT MANY TIMES. I'VE ASKED ABOUT IT ON THE DAIS. WE'RE MISSING 23 REPORT, 25 REPORT, AND WE'RE PAST DUE ON THE 26 REPORT. I'M WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON. I GOT AN ADVANTS -- ADVANCED LOOK AT IT FROM THE DIRECTOR. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GOLDEN ROD. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL. MY FELLOW COUNCILORS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. CAN YOU GIVE ME A HINT ON WHEN WE'LL SEE IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M REFERENCING -- 127 IS RELATED -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SUPPORTING POLLINATOR CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND COMMIT TO BCUSA STANDARDS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I KNOW WE HAVE SUBMITTED ONE LAST WEEK. WE'LL GET THE REST FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY THE 23 ONE AS WE GATHERER INFORMATION. >> IT IS NOT ON THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TONIGHT. IT HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED. I WOULD JUST REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED. WE'RE THREE YEARS LATE. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS ON THE NEXT LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WILL BE ON THE JUNE 15th. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM CAO, I THINK WE'RE MISSING A COUPLE LEGAL UPDATES AS WELL. WE'RE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF BEHIND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: A COUPLE LEGAL REPORTS. LEGAL UPDATES. I THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTED BY QUARTERS. WE'RE MISSING SIX QUARTERS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, CITY ATTORNEY KEEFE IS ONLINE. I THINK SHE HAS A POTENTIAL TIMING UPDATE ON SEVERAL OF THOSE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER. WE RECENTLY SPOKE ABOUT IT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YES. THERE'S ONE OVERDUE REPORT. AND THEY'RE WITH ME. WE HAD MAJOR DEADLINES IN THE PAST MONTH OR SO, BUT WE'LL GET THEM OUT SHORTLY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE TO PROCLAMATIONS -- MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE'S A PRESENTATION TONIGHT FROM MS. PERSONER. THE CITY ECONOMIST WHO WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE CANNABIS AND GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU. I'M HAPPY TO SAY IT'S RATHER POSITIVE. REVENUES ARE HOLDING STEADY. GRT GROWTH, BASED ON THE 1.22% WAS 6.2% GROWTH OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR. THIS IS FROM MARCH. AND THAT THE YEAR TO DATE GROWTH IS NOW AT 4.7. THAT IS HOLDING STEADY AS WELL. MOST SECTORS DID WELL. MANY WERE IN DOUBLE DIGIT GROWTH OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR. WE'LL TALK ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, PROFESSIONAL AND SIGN -- SCIENTIFIC. CONSTRUCTION, 0.7%. VERY SLOW, BUT STILL POSITIVE. I THINK YOU CAN GO AHEAD TO CANNABIS. I'M HAPPY TO SEE CANNABIS WAS POSITIVE. 8.5% FOR MARCH. YEAR TO DATE IS 2.6% OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR. I CAN STAND FOR QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY ANOMALIES IN THE REVENUES OR LUMP SUMS FROM THE STATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUAL GROWTH. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. DID THESE NUMBERS CHANGE THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR? WE'RE SHOWING A NEGATIVE GROWTH FORECAST FOR NEXT YEAR? >> NO, IT WOULD NOT. WE ARE -- THAT'S BECAUSE THE FY26 REVENUE IS STILL WITHIN THE PARAMETER OF EXPECTATION. AND THE GROWTH FOR FY27 IS BASED ON EXPECTATION FOR FY26. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE STILL SHOWING NEGATIVE GROWTH WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEXT YEAR, CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOBL IT'S NEGATIVE. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NEGATIVE. I BELIEVE GROWTH FOR GRT IS JUST UNDER 2% IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT IF WE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION? DO WE BREAK THOSE DOWN IN THAT REGARD? WE PROJECT THE NEXT YEAR -- LET'S LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION NUMBER THAT'S AT .7 RIGHT NOW. >> I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. I BELIEVE YOU WERE REFERRING TO EMPLOYMENT. YES, THAT IS STILL A DECREASE. THESE ARE -- THESE NUMBERS REFLECT NOT EMPLOYMENT BUT GROSS RECEIPTS FOR CONSTRUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WHY THE FLUCTUATION IN THE MARIJUANA TAX? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT WAS NEGATIVE FOR THE LONGEST TIME. I THINK THE TAXATION REVENUE DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO TRY TO DO COMPLIANCE. IT'S TIME FOR ME TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND WITH THEM. THAT COULD BE WHY WE'RE SEEING POSITIVE GROWTH FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE NEED THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE NEED MORE MONEY SMOKING POT TO GIVE CASH OUT TO PEOPLE FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IT FLUCTUATES SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR CANNABIS. FOR THAT EXACT REASON. WE CAN REINVEST IT INTO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S A BUTTEPLE THING. MY BEAUTIFUL THING. REMIND ME WHEN THE HOLD HARMLESS FOR THE MEDICAL HOLD HARMLESS ENDS. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DISBURSEMENT. I KNOW WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO END. REMIND WHEN THAT ENDS. I KNOW THERE'S A PHASE OUT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I BELIEVE IT'S FY30 IS THE LAST YEAR, BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK AND GET BACK WITH YOU IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE BUDGET. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT TO USE, WHICH IS SCARING ME ALSO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. WE'RE NOW ON TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 27th JOURNAL. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND KEEP YOUR HAND UP, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I HAVE A COUPLE. EC-163, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC-163 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S THE APPROVAL OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH NORTH STAR LEGAL GROUP LLC. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. KEEP YOUR HANDS UP. OPPOSED, NO. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT, WE'RE ON TO R-40 RCH I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPEND FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING R-40 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE REQUEST TO UTILIZE $140,000 FROM FUND 255 FY25 RAPID REHOUSING PROJECT TO SUPPORT CONTINUED HOUSING FOR 31 HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH HEADING HOME CONTINUUM OF CARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR VOTING RECORD. I KNOW WE'RE TOLD BY THE STAFF IT GETS CONFUSING SOMETIMES. I'M ASKING WE KEEP OUR HAND HELD UP. WE'RE ON TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. THERE ARE NONE. DEFERRALS AND WITH DRAWLS. ANY AT THIS TIME? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, BY REQUEST, O-25 AMENDING CHAPTER 14 ARTICLE 8 OF THE REVISED ORDINANCES OF ALBUQUERQUE 1994 TO CREATE A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE BOARD AND UPDATES THE POWERS OF METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND CITY COUNCIL ACCORDINGLY, I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 15th. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WAS THAT A NO? LET ME MAKE SURE -- GO RIGHT AHEAD. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A DEFERRAL ON R-26-35. APPROVING THE APPLICATION AND PETITION OF THE -- HOMES OF NEW MEXICO FOR FORMATION OF THE SAVIO RIDGE PID PURSUE TONIGHT THE ACT. I MOVE TO DEFER. >>COUN. PEÑA: R-26-35? >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ARE THERE ANY -- COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT'S NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. TELLES: IT'S FINAL ACTION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. I WANT TO GET THE RIGHT THING. >> ARE YOU DEFERRINGING IT TO JUNE 15th? >>COUN. TELLES: YES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO REQUESTED TO SPEAK ON EC-95 AND EC-163 LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S A ONE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THE BELL WILL RING TO AMDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. IF YOUR COMMENTS CAN BE GERMANE TO EACH ITEM AND WE'LL CALL YOU UP AGAIN ON THE SECOND ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BRICK FOLLOWED BY LEX. MY APOLOGIES, I HAVE THAT BACKWARDS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS IS ON EC-95. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S NEED TO MANAGE WORKLOADS USING OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, OUTSOURCING REAL ESTATE AND LEGAL SERVICES INTRODUCES MAJOR FINANCIAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RISKS THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO HEAVILY SCRUTINIZE. FROM THE FISCAL STANDPOINT, YOU MUST ACCOUNT FOR LONG-TERM SCOPE CREEP. PRIVATE FIRMS MAY OFFER SHORT-TERM STAFFING FLEXIBILITY, BUT THEIR BILLING RATES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN CITY STAFF WAGES. IF PROJECTS HIT DELAYS OR COMPACT LAND DISPUTES ARRIVE, PRIVATE ENTITIES WILL JUST BILL FOR EVERY PHONE CALL, EMAIL, AND COURT HOUR. THEN WHAT LOOKS LIKE SHORT-TERM SAVINGS WILL END UP DRAINING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FAR FASTER THAN MAINTAINING INTERNAL CITY STAFF. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >> BRICK. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR THIS. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, FOLLOWING UP ON HIM. SECOND AND PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUE. IT'S NOT JUST EXPANDING IT'S ABOUT ACCESS, INGRESS AND EGRESS. SO WHEN THE CITY UTILIZES PRIVATE CONTRACTORS IT RISKS ENTITIES THAT PRIORITIZE LAWS OVER CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS. IN THE APD CENTER WITH THE FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER, THIS PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDING HOUSES VITAL PUBLIC SERVICES AND PRIVATE MANAGEMENT ISSUES UNLAWFUL PRES PASSES AND IT TRIGGERS MASSIVE CONSTITUTIONAL LIABILITIES. PRIVATE CONTRACTORS AND TEAMS LACK TRAINING REQUIRED TO NAVIGATE THESE LEGAL QUASI-PUBLIC FORUMS. IF AN OUTSIDE FIRM ASSESSES RIGHT-OF-WAY STUFF, YOU'RE HELD LIABLE. I URGE YOU TO DEMAND EXPLICIT CLARITY -O FOR WHAT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW TRAINING WILL THIS CONTRACTOR RECEIVE. AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE OVERSEEN BY YOU SO WE DON'T WASTE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND DON'T VIOLATE PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON EC-163. >> THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKERS. -- I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT MADAM PRESIDENT. LEX, MY APOLOGIES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONCE AGAIN. THIS ITEM IS FAST TRACKED FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION. LEAVING PUBLIC COMPLETELY IN THE DARK REGARDING WHAT CIVIL OR LABOR DISPUTES THIS PRIVATE FIRM IS BEING HIRED TO DEFEND. THIS BRINGS UP A MASSIVE SYSTEMATIC ISSUE WITH HOW THE CITY SPENDS OUR MONEY. RIGHT NOW, AT CITY LEASED FACILITIES LIKE THE FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER, WE SEE SEVERE FRICTION. PRIVATE MANAGEMENT ATTEMPTS TO TRESPASS CITIZENS ENGAGING IN FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY WHEN THESE SITUATIONS OCCUR IT'S DUE TO A FAILURE OF PROPER TRAINING. >> BRICK. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THE THEME. CITY EMPLOYEES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WERE TRAINED PROPERLY TO NAVIGATE QUASI-PUBLIC SPACES THE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN. INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN TRAINING TO PREVENT IT, YOU RELY ON LEGAL CONTINGENCY PLANS. THE FAST TRACKING OF PRIVATE LAW FIRMS LIKE NORTH STAR, YOU'RE ASKING TAXPAYERS TO SIGN A BLANK CHECK TO DEFEND BAD ACTIONS AFTER THE FACT. TAXPAYERS SHOULDN'T FUND PROTECTION OF CIVIL RIGHTS -- SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PROTECTING PROACTIVE TRAINING. NOT FUNDING A PRIVATE LEGAL SHIELD TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN THINGS GO WRONG. CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS SHOULD NEVER BE TREATED AS COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I'M URGING YOU TO STOP RUBBER STAMPING THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL AGREEMENT AND DEFER THIS ACTION ON THIS ITEM UNTIL WE HAVE TOTAL TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS COVERERING UP. LET'S START INVESTING IN TRAINING OUR STAFF PROPERLY INSTEAD OF PAYING PRIVATE LAWYERS TO CLEAN UP THE MESSES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. NOW, WE ARE -- ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I PULL ITEM D, EC102 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. TRANSMITTING THIRD QUARTER DATA OF FISCAL YEAR 26 OBJECTIVES. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE. >>COUN. GROUT: I DO. I PULL ITEM X, R-24 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. R-24 IS AMENDING THE ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BY SUPPLEMENTING GRANT APPROPRIATIONS AND APPROVING NEW PROJECTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHERS, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE OR IF YOU'RE ONLINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVORER RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW, WE ARE ON TO COUNCILOR GROUT. THESE ARE THE ITEMS PULLED OFF THE CONSENT. EC-102. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M NOT SURE WHO TO ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS TO. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE THIRD QUARTER UPDATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 OBJECTIVES. THE REASON I PULLED IT OFF IS THERE ARE -- THIS REPORT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET QUARTERLY. A LOT OF THE ITEMS WERE NOT ADDRESSED. A LOT OF THE REPORTS. SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT A REPORT THAT'S BEEN DUE FOR A WHILE. LET ME JUST START. THE GOAL IN GENERAL -- THE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FEEDING CHILDREN, SENIORS, ANIMALS, PRIORITIZING PROVIDING NUTRITIOUS FOOD IN PROGRAM AND SERVICES AND FACILITIES. YOU DIDN'T RESPOND TO THAT. LET ME SAY A FEW THINGS. IF YOU MOVE 300 UNSHELTERED INTO HOUSING, YOU REPORTED 50 PEOPLE RECEIVED HOUSING. YOU REPORTED 50 PEOPLE RECEIVED SERVICES, BUT NO REPORT ON HOUSING. CREATING A TRACKING SYSTEM FOR 311 CALLS RECEIVED BY APD, AFR, AND ACS. HAS THE TRACKING SYSTEM FOR 311 CALLS BEEN CREATED? THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF ITEMS ON THIS OBJECTIVE. THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE SHOULD BE -- WE HAVE THIS OBJECTIVE FOR A REASON. AND WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWING HOW OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE SPENT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. SO THE REPORTING IS NOT JUST SUGGESTED, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, JOSH ANDERSON WURBGDZ WORKS WORKS WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS RELATED TO THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE REPORTS. HE CAN CAN SPEAK TO WHICH ITEMS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS VERSUS -- I'M SORRY -- THE BIENNIAL REPORT WE DID RECENTLY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND COUNCILOR GROUT. AS THE CAO MENTIONED, I KNOW OBJECTIVES 22 AND 23 DID REQUIRE QUARTERLY REPORT WHICH IS INCLUDED. THE -- REPORT WHICH MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF A THIRD QUARTER REPORT FOR OBJECTIVES, WE DIDNIC THOSE. IF THERE'S ANY IF THERE'S ANY WE MISSED, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. THERE'S STILL A FEW MORE TO COME. AS WELL AS OUR SEPTEMBER REPORT THAT ADDRESSED OBSTACLES WE FOUND IN OUR REPORTING. WE DID SUBMIT SECOND YEAR MID-YEAR IN APRIL. WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CLARIFY OR ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE MISSED ONES AT THE END OF THE YEAR. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. I HAVE A LONG LIST OF THINGS DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED. IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S IMPORTANT. WE'LL NEED TO GET TOGETHER. THANK YOU. I MOVE APPROVAL -- RECEIPT BE NOTED FOR EC-102. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR RECEIPT BE NOTED OF EC-102. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION -- 8-1? THAT WAS A NO? OKAY. NEXT, COUNCILOR GROUT, R-24. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-24. WE HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT WE NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THIS. THIS RESOLUTION. I WON'T READ IT ALL. THERE IS -- I NEED TO MOVE THE BILL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF R-24. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT. THIS IS ADDING $900,000 THAT WAS AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED BY THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO GRANT AND CAPITAL PROJECTS APPROVED BY THE 2024 AND 2025 STATE LEGISLATURE. THESE PROJECTS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE APPROPRIATED TO SPECIFIC GRANTS WHERE CAPITAL FUND OF EXECUTION OF THE PARTIES WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE AMOUNT TO BE ADDRESSED TO REFLECT PRIVATE, STATE, CONTRIBUTION. THE ABOVE SENIOR GRANT APPROPRIATION REPORTED A LARGER $10 MILLION GRANT ALLOCATED TO THE NEW MEXICO AGING AND LONG-TERM SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN 2025. THE BERNALILLO COUNTY SPLASH GRANT PAD WAS A TRANSFER FROM BERNALILLO COUNTY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES. WE'RE BACK ON R-24 AS AMENDED. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE WAS A MOTION, AND A SECOND ALREADY FOR APPROVAL. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOW, WE'RE ON TO NOW WE'RE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE A FINANCE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON JUNE 8th, 5 P.M., ROOM 9003 GOVERNMENT CENTER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE MEETING ON JUNE 10th AT THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. SDMRP THANK YOU. WE'RE . >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, WE'RE ON FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. COUNCILOR ROGERS, BY REQUEST. R-25. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MAKING FINDINGS AND CONNECTIONS WITH THE MESA DEL SOL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SALE OF MESA DEL SOL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ONE. SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 26-A AND AGGREGATE PRINCIPLE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $14 MILLION. AND THE MESA DEL SOL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT SPECIAL LEVY REFUNDING REVENUE BOND SERIES 2026B IN AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL NOT TO EXCEED $6 MILLION. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR R-25. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE MR. MEREHEAD HERE TO TALK US THROUGH WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. >> ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU RELATES TO MESA DEL SOL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS WHICH WAS FORMED IN 2008. WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS FIRST CREATED -- THIS IS RELATED TO ONE OF FIVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS WHICH ARE CREATED TO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY AND A MASTER DEVELOPMENT WAY. MESA DEL SOL IS ONE, ISSUED BONDS IN 2013 FOR INITIAL IMPROVEMENT. PART OF THE FINANCING IS REFUNDING OF THE DEBT FOR INTEREST COST SAVINGS WHICH BENEFIT THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THE OTHER SERIES OF BONDS RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE DISTRICT PUT IN AND REIMBURSED TO THE DEVELOPER CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE RESOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU -- THIS IS THE DEBT OF THE MESA DEL SOL NOT OF THE CITY. UNDER THE CITY'S PIT POLICY, IT'S REQUIRED ANY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOND ISSUED COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONFIRMATION THAT THE LAWS ARE ISSUED CONSISTENT WITH INITIAL FORMATION WHICH WAS IN 2008 AS WELL AS THE PIT POLICY. WE REVIEWED ALL THAT AND RECOMMEND ALL OF THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE. WE'RE LINED UP AND READY TO ISSUE THE BONDS SUBJECT TO YOUR APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE ONLY THING I'D ADD IS FOR PLAIN SPEAK, WE'RE ADDING A NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT'S SAVIO RIDGE. THAT'S THE LAND OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. PID. >> THIS IS MESA DEL SOL. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M SORRY. I'M AHEAD OF MYSELF. >> THIS IS PAST IT THE AIRPORT. SAVIO RIDGE IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO, COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL -- DO PASS OF R-25. ALL THOSE IN FAVORER SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM IS R-35. THAT WAS DEFERRED. WE'RE ON TO APPEALS. THERE ARE NONE. NOW, WE ARE ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE MINUTE TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THERE'S A ONE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THE BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS DEBBIE FOLLOWED BY JANY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY ABOUT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. IT SEEMS TO ME INFLATIONARY. THESE BUSINESS OWNERS, IF WE INCREASE THEIR LABOR COST BAY 25%, THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THAT ON TO US. TO THE CONSUMERS. THE PRICE OF YOUR BURGER IS GOING UP. THE PRICE OF DRY-CLEANING, CAR WASH, ALL OF THOSE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS THAT SERVE US WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE AND THEY WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING THE 25% RAISE. IT JUST LEADS TO A DOMINO EFFECT OF MORE PRICING, HIGHER PRICING, AND NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD THING FOR PEOPLE AT THE ENTRY LEVEL. MY FIRST JOB AT KFC I LEARNED TO SHOW UP ON TIME. I LEARNED TO BE WELL-DRESSED. I LEARNED TO MAKE CHANGE. I LEARNED TO BE NICE TO THE BOSS'S WIFE EVEN IF I DIDN'T LIKE HERE. I THINK THESE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS ARE FINE. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO SUPPORT A FAMILY. >> JAMIE FOLLOWED BY GRACE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND ALL THE WORK YOU DO. OKAY. SO, I'M A CITIZEN HERE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE GREAT CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. THERE'S NO QUESTION WE NEED TO GROW. THE CHALLENGES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IS ENSURING WE RAISE WAGES IN A WAY THAT STRENGTHENS WORKING FAMILIES WITHOUT UNINTENTIONALLY DRIVING COSTS HIGHER ON THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO HELP. THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE ALBUQUERQUE'S MINIMUM WAGE FROM $12 TO $15 PER HOUR DESERVES SERIOUS DISCUSSION. WEEKALLY IMPORTANT IS A PROPOSAL TO PERMANENTLY TIE FUTURE WAGE INCREASES, NOT ONLY TO INFLATION BUT ALSO TO HUD FAIR MARKET RENT INCREASES FOR TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS. SUPPORTERS OFTEN POINT TO CITIES WITH 15-PLUS MINIMUM WAGES. DENVER, WHICH HAS $18 AN HOUR, PORTLAND, IN COMPARISON, WE'RE AT 12 AND THE RENT FOR US IS 1600 AND THE RENT FOR DENVER IS 2300. I IMPLORE THE COUNCIL TO PUT SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO PUT PLAN TOGETHER TO DISCUSS HOW THIS WILL AFFECT NOT JUST SMALL BUSINESSES BUT ALL THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> GRAYS FOLLOWED BY ? >> GRACE FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> COUNCILORS, IT IS PRIDE MONTH. CELEBRATE BUT ALSO MOURN THE LIFE OF THE LIVES LOST TO SENSELESS VIOLENCE. PART OF THE MEMO SENT BY THE PRESIDENT DESIGNATES RADICAL GENDER EXTREMISM AS DOMESTIC TERRORISM. I AM LIKELY ON A LIST BECAUSE OF MY IDENTITY AS A TRANSGENDER PERSON. THE LIST THEY INTENT ON ONE DAY WHETHER YOU'RE READY TO ASSESSMENT IT OR NOT. WILL YOU STAY SILENT WHILE YOU'RE PEOPLE ARE EXECUTED FOR THE CRIME OF BEING OURSELF? DO MORE FOR US. PROTECT TRANSGENDER SOULS. SHIELD LAWS ARE NOTHING WITHOUT FURTHER PROTECTION AND YOUR LIVES DEPEND ON YOUR COURAGE TO ACT. ON THE FIRST DAY OF JUNE, I SAY HAPPY PRIDE MONTH. I IMPLORE YOU AND THE MAYORER TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU RAISE THIS FLAG IN CIVIC PLAZA TOMORROW. BECAUSE KELLER'S POLICIES, AND BACA'S POLICY, RAISING THAT FLAG IS MORE SYMBOLIC THAN ANYTHING. REMEMBER THERE'S NO PRIDE WITHOUT TRANS PEOPLE. WHEN THEY COME FOR US, THEY'LL COME FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TOO. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY ADEO. >> CAN I GET THE CAMERA ON THE -- GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS? I'M A CHRISTIAN PASTOR WHOSE MEMBERS COME DISTRICT EIGHT AND NINE. I HAD A MEMBER THAT WAS FACING EVICTION. SHE'S A COLLEGE GRADUATE AND WORKS FULL-TIME. WHY CAN'T SHE PAY RENT? THERE'S A CALCULATOR THAT'S ON THE SCREEN. AT $12 YOU CAN AFFORD A $624 A MONTH APARTMENT. ON ZILLOW THERE'S ZERO UNITS. THE CLOSEST ONE IS IN PORTALES. IF YOU'RE A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES WITH KIDS, UNLESS YOU WANT TO STAY IN A SHELTER OR LIVE IN PORTALES. YOU HAVE TO MAKE MORE. AT $15 IT SAYS YOU CAN AFFORD 77 #. AT THAT PRICE, THERE'S MORE OPTIONS. THEY'RE NOT GREAT OPTIONS, BUT THAT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. WE CANNOT CONTINUE CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS WHEN THERE ARE ZERO OPTIONS FOR HOUSING AT THE CURRENT WAGES. PLEASE PUT A MORATORIUM ON SWEEPS AND PASS O-33. THANK YOU. >> ADEO FOLLOWED BY MITCHELL. >> Y'ALL NEED TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S TIME. THE ONE MINUTE THING IS UNDERSTANDABLE WHEN WE'RE THIS PACKED. BUT IT'S -- IT REALLY HURTS PEOPLE. EVERY SINGLE MEETING -- TO PLAN FOR LESS TIME TO SPEAK. NO -- HAPPY PRIDE MONTH AGAIN. I ALWAYS ENJOY THINKING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO START -- EXCUSE ME, WHAT KIND OF -- IS GOING TO SCRUB THIS FOOTAGE. RIGHT HERE. RIGHT NOW. ABOUT CRIMINALIZING HUMAN BEINGS ON STOLEN LAND. AND -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MITCHELL FOLLOWED BY JOE. FOLLOWED BY DEBRA. >> I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUM UP MY EXPERIENCE IN NEW MEXICO SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. IN 60 SECONDS. THE BEST THING I CAN TELL YOU IS IF YOU NEVER GOOGLED THE 1934 NAZI PRISON SOLDIER. I ASK THAT YOU DO. WE CAN STAND AT PRICKLY PARK. THERE'S AN UPSIDE DOWN PATCH THAT'S BLACK. HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVE ON THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE. I WAS DISPLACED FROM CALIFORNIA. I HAVE NO EMPLOYMENT. ACCESS TO RESOURCE IS LIMITED. YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT TO GAIN ACCESS TO SOME RESOURCES. HERE WE ARE ADDING FINES TO HOMELESS PEOPLE. LIKE THEY DISCUSSED THE COST OF LIVING AND RENT. THE AVERAGE LANDLORD REQUIRES YOU MAKE THREE TIMES THE RENT PER MONTH JUST TO BE ABLE TO PRESIDE AND QUALIFY TO LIVE IN THAT. THAT'S CRIMINALIZING HOMELESS PEOPLE. I'M A TRANSGENDER MAN. STOP CRIMINALIZING TRANSPEOPLE. STAND FOR TRANS PEOPLE FIRST. [ CLAPPING ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S YOUR FIRST WARNING. >> JOE FOLLOWED BY DEBRA FOLLOWED BY RAUL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOW COSTS FOR GROCERIES AND GAS IS RISING. HOUSING IS HARD TO FIND. HOMELESSNESS IS RISING. THIS COUNCIL SEEMS PARALYZED. THAT INCLUDES NO VOTES ON COMMON SENSE PROTECTION FOR RENTERS. NO ON INCREASING VOTING ACCESS AND SAVING $1.7 MILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS. THAT'S MY MONEY. THAT'S OUR MONEY. NO ON TAKING SMALL, REALLY SMALL STEPS TO INCREASE HOUSING. YOU HAVE VOTED YES, QUITE RECENTLY, ON CRIMINALIZING FREE SPEECH AND HURTING OUR NEIGHBORS. THAT YES VOTE SENT A CLEAR MESSAGE. WE'VE SEEN THAT. OUR POLICE SEEM TO BE ESCALATING CONFRONTATIONS. I'M WORRIED ABOUT USE OF FORCE AND LAWSUITS WE'VE SEEN THAT COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER FUNDS AS WELL. WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS NOT WORKING. YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT ON THE MAYOR OR MAYORAL ADMINISTRATION. YOU ARE NOT ADDRESSING HOUSING OR RISING COST. YOU'RE NOT SHOWING LEADERSHIP. ESPECIALLY THE MAJORITY ON THIS COUNCIL. THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK FOR US OR OUR FAMILIES. >> DEBRA FOLLOWED BY RAUL FOLLOWED BY BEATRICE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M THE AUTHOR OF OLD TOWN PLAZA IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TO POSE THE RAIL TRAIL PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONED VACANT LOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE RESIDENTS MOST AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT WERE NOT INFORMED OR CONSULTED BEFORE IT ADVANCED. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WEST OLD TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH ITS SMALL FIVE-MEMBER BOARD FAILED TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS. WHICH WILL SEVERELY AFFECT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, RESIDENTS, PRIVACY, SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK MADAM PRESIDENT -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I BELIEVE THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER. SHE CAN'T BE SPEAKING ON THAT ISSUE. >>COUN. PEÑA: HOLD ON ONE SECOND. HI. JUST SO YOU KNOW, SOME ITEMS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL. SO WE SHOULDN'T BE HEARING COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC RELATED TO THIS. WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEYS WITH COUNCIL SERVICES WHO CAN HELP EXPLAIN THIS FURTHER. AND ONCE SHE DOES, I WILL GO TO YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. >> ACTUALLY, CAN I SAY ONE THING? I JUST RECEIVED A VOICE MESSAGE FROM COUNCILOR BACA. HE MENTIONED I COULD COME TO THIS MEETING TODAY. >>COUN. BACA: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WAS RESPONDING TO A VOICE MAIL. MY UNDERSTAND IS IT'S CITY LAND, NOT PRIVATE LAND. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT DOESN'T QUALIFY UNDER QUASI-JUDICIAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BACA, LET COUNSEL EXPLAIN FIRST. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING AT THIS MOMENT. THERE IS A LIMITATION AS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT MENTIONED ON PUBLIC COMMENT ON QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS OUTSIDE OF THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT MATTER. IF THIS IS SOMETHING QUASI-JUDICIAL, YOU HAVE THAT LIMITATION ON COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE ANSWER. WE CAN ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY. SHE'S PROBABLY ONLINE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN VOTE ON IT WHEN IT'S TIME. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M NOT AWARE OF THE PARTICULAR HEARING EITHER THAT'S PENDING ON THIS MATTER. MAYBE YOU'RE GETTING INFORMATION ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS AWARE OF THE HEARING IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM NOT AWARE OF A PENDING HEARING ON THE MATTER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. IT DOESN'T -- MS. MONTOYA. -- WHERE DID -- OKAY. WE CAN LET MS. MONTOYA COMPLETE HER COMMENTS WHEN SHE'S DONE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL WHEN WE'RE HAVING SOMEONE -- OKAY. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. THE RAIL TRAIL IS ON CITY LAND. IT'S NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL. I KNOW THE CITY HAD PUBLIC MEETING. SHE WANTED TO SPEAK. I JUST TOLD HER TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I DON'T HAVE ANY YEA OR NAY. I JUST LET HER KNOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. WE HAD A COUPLE COUNCILORS CONCERNED WITH IT BEING QUASI-JUDICIAL. IF SOMEBODY CAN FIND MS. MONTOYA TO START HER MINUTE OVER AGAIN, WHERE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER UNTIL SHE COMES IN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. NEXT WE HAVE RAUL FOLLOWED BY BEATRICE. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I AM A WORKER IN ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THIS CITY'S ECONOMY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE BECAUSE LOW WAGES ARE NO LONGER ENOUGH TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY. MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME WORK FULL-TIME. YET WE STILL CANNOT AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE RENT WERE FOOD TRANSPORTATION, AND UTILITIES. THIS FORCES US TO LIVE UNDER CONSTANT STRESS AND WORK MULTIPLE JOBS TO SURVIVE. EVEN WITH MY TIPS MY INCOME IS NOT ENOUGH. WE WORK ADDITIONAL SHIFTS TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THE PROBLEM IS NOT A LACK OF WORK, THE PROBLEM IS WE DO NOT REFLECT THE TRUE COST OF LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE. THIS AFFECTS NOT ONLY WORKERS BUT ALSO OUR FAMILIES, HEALTH AND STABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE SOLUTION IS CLEAR, RAISE MINIMUM WAGE SO WORK IS ENOUGH TO LIVE ON. A FAIR WAGE REDUCES TURNOVER, STRENGTHENS STABILITY. I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE. A LIVING WAGE IS NOT A LUXURY. IT'S A BASIC NECESSITY FOR LIVING WITH DIGNITY. THANK YOU. >> BEATRICE FOLLOWED BY SOFIA. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST AS INTERPRETER, LET EVERYONE KNOW THEIR COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I HAVE LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR MORE THAN 16 YEARS. I'M A MOTHER, WORKER AND MEMBER OF ELSENTRO. THOSE OF US THAT WORK IN CONSTRUCTION, CHILD CARE AND ESSENTIAL JOBS, WE KEEP THE CITY RUNNING. THE REALITY IS DESPITE OUR CONTRIBUTIONS MANY WORK FAMILIES CANNOT LIVE WITH DIG GNAWTY. I WORK I WORK AS A COOK AND DISH WASHER, 12 HOUR AS DAY. AND EARN $14 AN HOUR. EVEN SO, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO PAY RENT, FOOD, DPAS AND UTILITIES. THE COST OF LIVING CONTINUES TO RISE BUT OUR WAGES DO NOT. THAT'S WHY TODAY WE'RE ASKING FOR OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS ORDINANCE. A MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE IS NOT A GIFT. IT'S JUSTICE FOR THOSE OF US THAT SUSTAIN THE CITY EVERY DAY WITH OUR WORK. WHEN WORKERS ARE DOING WELL, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS DOING WELL. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL GO BACK TO DEBRA FOLLOWED BY SOFIA. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ENTIRE MINUTE BACK. APOLOGIES. >> THANK YOU. AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE OLD TOWN RAIL TRAIL FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONED VACANT LOT IN OLD TOWN. THE RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT WERE NOT INFORMED NOR CONSULTED BEFORE IT DISBANNED. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WEST OLD TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE SMALL FIVE-MEMBER BOARD FAILED TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS WHICH WILL SEVERELY AFFECT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER RESIDENCES, PRIVACY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. IT WILL BE LOCATED ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT WILL CALLS SAFETY CONCERNS. I ASK YOU TO PAUSE THIS. REQUIRE WORK AND SAFETY STUDIES AND WORK WITH HAD RESIDENTS IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S EVERYONE'S FIRST WARNING. WHOEVER CLAPPED. >> SOFIA FOLLOWED BY LEX FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I WILL BE READING THIS -- I AM A PROUD TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING CHILD CARE SERVICES. TODAY I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE BECAUSE GIVEN THE ECONOMIC CHALLENGE MANY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION WORKERS NEED TO WORK TWO JOBS TO COVER BASIC EXPENSES, LIKE FOOD, RENT UTILITIES AND OTHER NECESSITIES. EVEN THOUGH I EARN A LITTLE OVER $13 PER HOUR I STILL STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET. JUST LIKE MANY OF MY COWORKERS. RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 PER HOUR WOULD PROVIDE WORKERS WITH GREATER ECONOMIC STABILITY AND HELP MY FAMILY MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS. THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU. >> LEX FOLLOWED BY BRICK FOLLOWED BY BLAKE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER -- WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW MONEY IS SPENT ON LEGAL SERVICES BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T PROPERLY TRAINED. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WITH A POLICE OFFICER AT THE FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER. [ VIDEO PLAYING WITH UNCLEAR AUDIO ]. APPARENTLY THESE PEOPLE CAUSE PROBLEMS AT THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS FROM A DEPUTY COMMANDER AT THE FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER ON HER OWN GODDANMED BODY CAMERA. GIVING THESE PEOPLE A PRIVATE BUILDING, THEY THINK THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD TO SAY I DON'T LIKE THAT GUY WITH THE CAMERA. THEY SEARCHED ALL OVER THE BUILDING FOR US LIKE WE WERE DOGS. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO THIS. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ONE SUIT ON YOUR ASS, AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. >> BRICK FOLLOWED BY BLAKE FOLLOWED BY FRANCESCO. >> CAN I GET THE OVERHEAD? YEAH, TRYING TO DRAW AS MUCH ATTENTION AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW THIS GUY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE WHILE THIS IS PLAYING. THAT PUBLIC COMMENT THING. I UNDERSTAND IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LIMIT THE COMMENTS WHEN IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS. WHEN IT'S LIKE 50 -- MAYBE -- MAYBE 45. WHEN IT'S 60, 30. WHEN IT'S 70, BECAUSE IT'S YOUR DISCRETION. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME WHEN IT'S MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ONE MINUTE. IT'S ONE MINUTE THIS TIME. THERE ARE, AS WE WERE TOLD, OVER 100 PEOPLE SPEAKING. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. ONE MINUTE, WITH WHEN IT'S 50 -- RIDICULOUS, DON'T YOU THINK? ARNOLD MARTINEZ MIGHT AS WELL WORK FOR YOU. >> BLAKE FOLLOWED BY FRANCESCO FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I WORK AS AN ECONOMIC RESEARCHER. I'M IMPLORING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. YOU'LL HEAR COMMENTS AGAINST DOING SO. I'LL INFORM YOU MANY OF THE COMMENTS WILL COME FROM AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY. THIS IS FUNDED BY LARGE COMPANIES PUBLICLY TRADED ON STOCK EXCHANGES AROUND THE WORLD. THAT'S OKAY. COMPANIES HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SHAREHOLDERS. IT'S GOOD FOR ALBUQUERQUE. YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVORER OF RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. >> FRANCECO FOLLOWED BY LISA FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN. >> OVERHEAD, PLEASE. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]. >> PLEASE RESTART MY TIME FOR ENGLISH TRANSLATION. THIS IS MY MOTHER'S PRAYER BOOK. MY GOD REST HER SOUL. SOME PEOPLE SWEAR THE OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND NEW MEXICO, SO HELP YOU GOD. WITH HAND ON THE BIBLE, AND IT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING. TO SOME, THE BIBLE IS JUST A BOOK. MAY AS WELL BE SWEARING THE OATH ON A ROLL OF TOILET PAPER. THE ETERNAL SOULS FACING THE CONSTANT AGONY OF DAMNATION FOR SAYING THE ROSARY EVERY DAY SO YOU CAN BE A POSITION OF POWER, PRAY THAT YOU REPENT AND TURN YOURSELF IN. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY AUDREY. >> TWO COMMENTS. ONE COMMENT ABOUT APD KILLING THREE PEOPLE IN FIVE DAYS. ONE COMMENT ABOUT VULNERABILITY AND HOMELESSNESS AND BEHAVIORAL EVENTS. 2014 THE DOJ, THEIR REPORT WAS PACES FOR THE CASA AGREEMENT. 11 YEARS, ALBUQUERQUE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. DOJ. YOU ALSO HAD A PROMISE WITH US. APD WOULD REDUCE EXCESSIVE FORCE AND WOULD BE TRANSPARENT WITH THEIR REPORTING IN THE PROCESSES OF THE EIGHT THINGS LISTED ON THE AGREEMENT, SIX WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE AND TWO OF THEM THEY DOJ IDENTIFIED THAT THE PROBLEM WAS PROBLEMATIC AND WAS -- THERE WAS A CULTURE OF AGGRESSION IN APD AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL PATTERN WITH EXCESSIVE FORCE. HERE WE ARE AGAIN, 11 YEARS LATER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK. WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FOR ATTENDING. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING WE FOUND THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU. >> KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY AUDREY FOLLOWED BY TREVOR. >> LAST MONDAY, I INJURED MY SHOULDER WHILE HIKING. IF YOU NEVER WORKED A MINIMUM WAGE JOB, SUCH INJURY MAY BE NUISANCE. BUT WHAT DOES AN INJURY LIKE THIS MEAN FOR SOMEONE MAKING MINIMUM WAGE? WITHOUT THE USE OF MY DOMINANT HAND, IT'S DIFFICULT TO FOLD CLOTHES OR WAIT TABLES OR COOK, I CAN LIFT A FEW POUNDS. BUT IT WOULD BE COMPACT AND NOT CUMBERSOME. WE RULED OUT RETAIL,ED TO SERVICE, AND WHAT IS MISSING A WEEK OF WORK MEAN TO SOMEONE ON MINIMUM WAGE. IT WILL NOT NECESSARILY PUT THEM ON THE STREET, BUT IT WILL CAUSE FEES AND MISSING BILLS. IT MEANS PAYING THE LATE FEES TO AFFORD LAST LATE FEES WHICH MEANS MORE LATE FEES. SKIPPING MEALS, AND GOING BACK BEFORE FULLY HEALED. IF IT GETS BAD ENOUGH YOU START ALTERNATEING. PAYING RENT ONE MONTH AND BILLS THE NEXT. MAKE ENOUGH LATE PAYMENTS AND YOUR LANDLORD MIGHT TERMINATE THE LEASE. THEN YOU HAVE TO HOLD HOPE YOUR CAR HOLDS OUT. -- ONE ACCIDENT MEANS FALLING INTO A HOLE YOU CAN'T CLIMB OUT OF. STANDING UP FOR THE WORKING CLASS MEANS VOTING FOR POLICIES THAT IMPROVE THE SITUATION AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, NOT WATCHING THEM FALL INTO A HOLE AND JUDGING THEM FOR BEING THERE. >> AUDREY FOLLOWED BY TREVOR FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. >> GOOD EVENING, I SERVE AS THE CORPORATE DIRECTOR OF PEOPLE'S CULTURE FOR MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, A FAMILY OWNED HOTEL MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT OPERATES HOTELS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND THROUGHOUT NEW MEXICO. YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING AND THE UNCERTAINTIES. AS AN EMPLOYER IN ALBUQUERQUE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR WE'RE ALREADY PAYING $15 AN HOUR FOR MOST OF THE POSITIONS. OUR TIPPED EMPLOYEES ARE PAID $10 AN HOUR. WE PROVIDE HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. WE PROVIDE A 401K WITH A MATCH. THE CONCERN BEFORE US IS NOT WHETHER EMPLOYEES DESERVE FAIR WAGES. THE CONCERN IS WHETHER THIS ORDINANCE CREATES A SUSTAINABLE FRAMEWORK FOR EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES IN THE YEARS AHEAD. THE MOST TROUBLING START OF THIS PROPOSAL IS THE TIE TO THE HUD FAIR MARKET RENT CALCULATIONS. IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE STAGGERED, A LITTLE MORE EASY FOR US TO SUSTAIN GOING FORWARD. WE CAN'T HAVE THESE INCREASES BE UNKNOWN. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR THOSE. I JUST HOPE YOU LISTEN AND WORK WITH US. >> TREVOR FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY LEONDRA. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ORDINANCE 33. I THINK THE MINIMUM WAGE NEEDS TO BE INCREASED. I AM ONE OF THE FEW CONSTITUENTS WHO IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MAKE MORE THAN $15 AN HOUR. I MAKE $15.50 AND WORK FULL-TIME. I RIDE MY BIKE AROUND AND DO NOT PAY FOR INSURANCE OR GAS. EVEN WITH A FORTUNATE LIVING CIRCUMSTANCE, I WAS VERY LUCKY THE RENT THAT I FOUND, EVEN THEN I'M PAYING A MAJORITY OF MY PAYCHECK ON THE BEAR ESSENTIALS. FOOD, RENT, ELECTRICITY, PHONE BILL, INTERNET, ET CETERA. THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE. WE NEED HIRE WAGES. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING. PEOPLE ARE MAKING SACRIFICES THEY DON'T NEED TO MAKE. I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A CLOSE VOTE. IT ONLY TAKES THE FOUR CO-SPONSORS PLUS ONE TO GET THIS PASSED AND MAKE SURE WORKING FAMILIES ARE REPRESENTED IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY PRIDE. >> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE ECONOMIC ARGUMENT TO WHY WE NEED TO BE RAISING MINIMUM WAGE TONIGHT. I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN OFF WORK. THEY WORK IN THE MORNING. AND THEY'RE HERE TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO THEM AND HOW MUCH THIS AFFECTS THEIR LIVES. I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THEM. I THINK YOU SHOULDN'T JUST SWAY TOWARDS ONE SIDE. I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS. ADDITIONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT -- I DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE AN ANTI-SMALL BUSINESS THING. I REALLY CARE ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES. I LOVE SMALL BUSINESSES. I THINK IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TAX INCENTIVIZE AT THE END OF THE YEAR SO SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GET SOMETHING BACK TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR PAYING EMPLOYEES MORE, I THINK IT'S A WIN. BECAUSE IF WE STOOD UP FOR THEM, THOSE EMPLOYEES CAN COME BACK AROUND AND NEXT YEAR HAVE MORE MONEY TO SPEND ADD LOCAL BUSINESSES. I KNOW WHEN I HAVE MORE MONEY IN MY POCKET, I'M MORE LIKELY TO GO A LOCAL BUSINESS. APD SHOULD REALLY STOP KILLING PEOPLE. >> LEONDRA FOLLOWED BY JEFF FOLLOWED BY MARINA. >> HELLO, COUNCILORS. I SUPPORT RAISING MINIMUM WAGE AND I LOVE THAT WE HAVE UNIVERSAL CHILD CARE. THOSE HAVE BOTH -- MY CONCERN IS HAVE WE -- WITH THE UNIVERSAL CHILDCARE, WITH PAY RAISES, CAN WE HELP THE SCHOOLS IF FOR SOME REASON THAT EARLY CHILDCARE GETS PULLED AWAY LIKE A DIFFERENT GOVERNOR. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE TRYING TO SUE IT ALREADY. WHAT WILL PARENTS DO IF WE HAVE TO PAY MORE IF THAT SERVICE GETS PULLED AWAY? IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR ME GOING BACK TO SCHOOL. SOME PEOPLE COULDN'T AFFORD CHILD CARE AT ALL. ARE YOU GOING TO BE AT HOME OR WORK. THAT'S NOT A DECISION WE SHOULD HAVE TO MAKE. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN TALK TO OUR SENATORS AS WELL AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP FUND THAT CUT -- THE EXTRA FEE BECAUSE THEY DO DESERVE TO BE PAID MORE, BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE LOSE EARLY CHILD CARE? I THANK YOU ALL. >> JESS FOLLOWED BY MARINA FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. MARINA FOLLOWED BY PATRICK FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> HI. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE RIO GRANDE FOUNDATION AN ECONOMIC THINK TANK. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE FROM $12 TO $15. THE PROBLEM IS IN ECONOMICS NOTHING IS FREE. ARBITRARY MANDATED WAGE INCREASES ARE BORNE BY BUSINESSES. BETWEEN THE EVER INCREASING TAXES, AND PRIME COSTS OF SECURITY AND INSURANCE, SMALL AND FAMILY BUSINESSES CANNOT SURVIVE A 25% INCREASE IN WAGES. THIS WILL LEAVE SMALL AND FAMILY BUSINESSES WITH LOSING PROPOSITION OF EITHER CUTTING HOURS, AUTOMATED, INCREASING PRICE, OR CLOSING DOORS. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF AFFORDALITY. INSTEAD OF BREAKING THE BACKS OF LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE CITY SHOULD LOBBYING THE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR TO REDUCE THE TAXES WITH THE MASSIVE OIL AND GAS SURPLUSES AVAILABLE. THAT WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF LIVING AND INCREASE AFFORDABILITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> PATRICK FOLLOWED BY JAMES FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCILOR. I'M AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT FOR RAISING THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THERE'S A COST OF LIVING CRISIS THE COUNTRY. PRICES ARE CAUSING PEOPLE TO DECIDE BETWEEN FEEDING FAMILIES. ALBUQUERQUE IS A PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO ECONOMIC CRISIS. THE DUTY OF THE CITY IS PROTECT WORKERS AND PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE. NOT JUST THE INTERESTS OF CORPORATIONS OR BUSINESSES. WORKERS ARE THE DRIVERS OF ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF WORKERS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE, THERE'S NO ECONOMY. WE MAKE THE WORLD RUN AND WE DESERVE THE BARE MINIMUM TO EXIST AND TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE IS AN ESSENTIAL REFORM BUT ALSO ONE THAT IS A DROP IN THE OCEAN OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF WORKERS, POOR AND MARGINALIZED. OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET IS CONSTANTLY BEING ROLLED BACK IN FAVOR OF CONTRACTED BY OUTSOURCING OF PUBLIC WEALTH WELFARE. OUR TAXES WORKING PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DEMAND THE CITY TO WORK FOR US AND BUILD A FUTURE THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE FIRST, NOT PROFIT, SO ALBUQUERQUE CAN BE THE CITY IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE. A CITY MADE FOR THE WORKING CLASS. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY TAD, FOLLOWED BY MEGAN ON ZOOM. >> I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOMEONE I MEANT. BRITNEY WAS ASSIGNED TO MY PIT SHIFT DURING THE LAST COUNT. RIGHT AWAY I COULD TELL SOMETHING WAS DIFFERENT. SHE APPROACHED THE SURVEY WITH FEARLESSNESS. SHE IS AN AWARD WINNING AUTHOR. SHE WAS BORN DEAD AND LIVED FOR A WHILE IN A CAR, AND LIVED IN A HUGE BLACK BARN IN THE CORNFIELDS OF INDIANA. A GRADUATE OF BALL STATE, HER BOOK EARNED A STAR REVIEW AND PICKED AS BEST BY PEOPLE 2023. SHE LIVES IN ALBUQUERQUE. HER CHILDHOOD WAS A BLUR OF HIGHWAYS AND TRAUMA AND COLLAPSED ANY EFFORT TO TRACK TIME. RIDING SHOTGUN AS HER MOTHER ESCAPED ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS. SHE DIDN'T CARE WHERE THEY WENT, THE CLUTTER MANSION HER GRANDPARENTS CALLED HOME, BUT EVERY SO OFTEN HER MOM WOULD SURPRISE HER. >>COUN. BACA: POINT OF PRIVILEGE. GIVE HIM AN EXTRA MINUTE. >> AS SHE GROW OLDER AND QUESTIONED HER COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIPS, SHE BEGAN TO RECOGNIZE HELL WASN'T ONLY A PLACE SHE READ ABOUT IN THE BIBLE. IT WAS A CYCLE OF VIOLENCE THAT TRAPPED HER FAMILY. THROUGH FOOTHOLDS SUCH AS HORROR MOVIES, NEURO PSYCHOLOGY AND STRONG BONDS SHE MADE SENSE OF THE CYCLE AND FINDS A WAY TO LEAVE IT. WHILE UNTANGLING THE WEB OF MEMORY, SHE CRAFTS A TALE OF HOPE WITH THE UNIQUE NARRATIVE STYLE AND SPARKLING EXAMPLE OF HUMANITY AND ABILITY TO WITHSTAND THE HORRIFIC EXPERIENCES AND STILL THRIVE. THAT WAS WRITTEN BY THE INDIANA BOOK SOCIETY BEFORE THEY GAVE HER THE 2024 BOOK OF THE YEAR AWARD. IF I DIDN'T KNOW HER AND HOW SUCCESSFUL AND WELL ADJUSTED SHE IS, I CAN SAY I WOULDN'T HAVE MADE IT TEN PAGES INTO THIS INCREDABLE BOOK. WE'RE HAVING AN EVENT AT HOPE WORKS NEXT FRIDAY. THAT'S THE FLIER. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO ATTEND. SHE'S GOING TO BE THE SPEAKER AND SIGNING HER BOOKS. SHE'LL MELT YOUR HEART. THANK YOU. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY MEGAN FOLLOWED BY AURORA. >> WOULD YOU GIVE ME OVERHEAD? THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. YES. MY NAME IS TAD. I REALLY SORRY. HERE IS AFTER MEETING. MRS. LOPEZ AT THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, STANDING ABOVE -- ISSUE WHAT WE HAVE PROBLEM WITH CITY COUNCIL ABOUT FIVE OR MORE POINTS. VIOLATION OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. INCLUDING RACISM, SEXISM BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. EVERYTHING -- THAT'S CRIMINAL. GOING TO DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. AND LOTS MORE AND EXPOSE CITY COUNCIL -- I DON'T HAVE TIME. >> MEGAN FOLLOWED BY AURORA FOLLOWED BY SALLY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE TO $15 AN HOUR. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF EVIDENCE PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING WITH WAGES AND PRICING. ONLY 5% OF APARTMENTS THAT COST LESS THAN $800 ARE VACANT. COMPARED TO 26% OF RENTALS COSTING MORE HAPPEN $2,000 A. THERE'S FEW BUYERS. AND MAKE -- KEEP APARTMENTS SAFE AND LIVABLE. AND INCREASES OF MINIMUM WAGE WILL INCREASE PURCHASING POWER AND CONDIGS TO IMPROVE. MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH WILL IMPROVE. WHEN WORKING CLASS MAKE MORE MONEY IT MOVES THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND GENERATES ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND PEOPLE ARE ALSO MORE LIKELY TO HAVE EXTRA SPACE WHICH PREVENTS FRIENDS AND FAMILY FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS. I STRUNGLY SUPPORT THIS. THE MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE MORE LIKE $22 AN HOUR ACCORDING TO THE MIT LIVING WAGE CALCULATOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AURORA FOLLOWED BY SALLY. >> HELLO, THIS MONTH IS PRIDE MONTH. I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY PRIDE. ESPECIALLY ALL THE QUEER AND TRANS PEOPLE. TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE QUEER OR TRANS LIKE MYSELF -- I MOVED TO TO BE THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF POLITICAL OPPRESSION IN TEXAS. THE COMMUNITY ADOPTED ME. ALBUQUERQUE HAS SHOWN ITSELF AS A PLACE THAT BELIEVES IN QUEER AND TRANS RIGHTS. BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST EXPLICIT RIGHT OF GENDER AFFIRMING CARE, IT'S IMPLICIT RIGHT, THE RIGHT OF BEING FREE TO EXPLOITATION, RIGHT TO MINIMUM WAGE AND HOUSING AND FOOD AND HEALTH CARE. THOSE ARE QUEER AND TRANSRIGHTS TOO. WE BESEECH YOU TO SUPPORT ALL QUEER AND TRANS RIGHTS AND RAISE MINIMUM WAGE AND -- HUMAN RIGHTS ARE BOTH QUEER AND TRANS RIGHTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SALLY. >> I'M A PARENT OF THREE LITTLE KIDS. MY HUSBAND IS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE TROUBLE LISTENING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I'M DISHEARTENED OFTEN BY VOTES THAT SEEM TO GO AGAINST WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE RANK CHOICE VOTING, CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS, FEES. BUT I'M VERY ENCOURAGED TONIGHT TO SEE MY COUNCILOR -- I'M IN DISTRICT TWO WITH COUNCILOR BACA COSPONSORING THE RENTAL UNIT HABBALITY ORDINANCE AND RAISING MINIMUM WAGE. I SUPPORT BOTH OF THOSE REALLY STRONGLY. I THINK THAT WHEN WE ARE IN A ROOM THAT HAS A LOT OF POWER IN IT, WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE PEOPLE NOT IN THE ROOM THAT WE'RE AFFECTING. AND THE PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED BY THIS ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING THEIR MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS YOU ARE MAKING YOUR VOTE. THANKS. >> UP NEXT, WE HAVE HAROLD -- SENATOR HAROLD POPE, JR. >> COUNCILORS, I'M STATE SENATOR FROM DISTRICT 23 ON THE WEST SIDE. I'M SHEER -- I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE INCREASE OF MINIMUM WAGE AND COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSORS AND COMMEND YOU FOR THIS WORK. IT RECOGNIZES THE SIMPLE TRUTH. THE COST OF LIVING DOES NOT STAND STILL. NEITHER SHOULD THE WAGES OF PEOPLE WHO KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING. EVERY DAY ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS ARE SERVING OUR FOODS, CARING FOR LOVED ONES AND KEEPING BUSINESSES OPERATING. YET TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND PAYING FOR UTILITIES AND HEALTH CARE. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S A SHORT TIME LIMIT. WHEN WE HAVE YOU IN THE SENATE WE LIMIT THAT. I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU. IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE AS WELL TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO BRING YOUR RESOURCES TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I COULD NOT FIND GARY IN ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANKS TO ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. THE CLOCK UP ALL IS WRONG. IT'S ACTUALLY 6:55. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL RETURN AT 7:25. >>COUN. PEÑA: WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 14, FINAL ACTION. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THIS IS O-33. THANK YOU. WE ARE ON O-33. THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR ROGERS, AND COUNCILOR TELLES BY REQUEST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-33, CHAPTER 13 ARTICLE 12, ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE, CHANGE CALCULATION METHOD FOR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS AND REMOVE OBSOLETE PROVISIONS. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES FOR DO PASS OF O-33. SOMEONE TO OPEN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE MINIMUM WAGE HAS BEEN VERY LOW IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE HAVE NOT SEEN A REAL INCREASE. RIGHT NOW, IF THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER IN OUR CITY WORKING FULL-TIME MINIMUM WAGE JOBS, THEY CANNOT AFFORD A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT. I THINK THAT SAYS IT. THERE'S A DEFINITE DISPARITY BETWEEN WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT OUR MINIMUM WAGE IS. WE ARE JUST BRINGING IT UP TO A REASONABLE AMOUNT AND WITH THAT, I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OPEN BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE HAVE -- WE'LL GO TO -- UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY SPONSORS -- IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER A. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WON'T BE INTRODUCING THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT B. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THOSE IN YOUR PACKET. I THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED. I DON'T KNOW WHERE CHERISE IS AT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN GET THE AMENDMENT SHARED IF YOU LIKE. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. WHY DON'T WE DO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: ARE THESE ALSO IN THE iPADS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE CAN ADD THOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'LL KNOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST. WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? MR. CORNELIUS, CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GRACE FOLLOWED BY SARAH FOLLOWED BY CAROL. >> NO BUSINESS WHICH DEPENDS FOR EXISTENCE ON PAYING LESS THAN LIVING WAGES TO WORKERS HAS ANY RIGHT TO CONTINUE. THAT IS NOT RAD CAL. THAT IS BASIC HUMAN DECENCY. FDR SAID IT IN 1933. IT IS STILL TRUE TODAY. MY ROOMMATE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD LEASES WHEN RENT KNOWS UP IN DECEMBER. THE ONLY WAY TO AFFORD RENT IS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN SUBPAR HOUSING THAT ISN'T UP TO STANDARDS. I'M LUCKY I HAVE PARENTS I CAN CALL. MOST PEOPLE DON'T. OVER HALF OF RENTERS ARE COST BURDENED. THAT IS EXPLOITATION. RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE DOES NOT HURT HONEST BUSINESSES. THE OPPOSITION TO THIS IS COMING FROM CORPORATE BAD ACTORS WHO DECIDED THEIR PROFIT MARGINS MARTYR MORE THAN WHETHER THEIR WORKERS CAN FEED FAMILIES. THIS COUNCIL HAS A CHOICE. STAND WITH WORKING PEOPLE OR STAND WITH THE PEOPLE GETTING RICH OFF THEM AND SHOW THAT ONCE AGAIN YOU STAND TO DO PRIVATE EQUITY'S BIDDING. I'LL TALK ABOUT HOW YOU DO NAOP'S BIDDING. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY CAROL FOLLOWED BY ADEO. >> I'M A CHRISTIAN PASTOR WHOSE MEMBERS ARE IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND NINE. I OVERSEE THE OPERATIONS OF A CHURCH. WE HAVE A STAFF OF TEN PEOPLE. WE RAISED OUR MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 AN HOUR OVER FOUR YEARS AGO. WE'RE DOING GREAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT HOURS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT STAFF. PAYING PEOPLE ENOUGH TO LIVE HAS CONSISTENTLY STRENGTHENED OUR ORGANIZATION. NO ONE IS LOYAL TO A $12 JOB. RECRUITING, TRAINING, LOSS PRODUCTIVITY COST BUSINESSES THOUSANDS. IN THE THREE YEARS AFTER DENVER RAISED THE MINIMUM WAGE THE CITY OUTPACED COLORADO IN JOB GROWTH, WAGE GROWTH AND SALES TAX REVENUE. BEYOND ECONOMICS, MY FAITH TEACHES US WE'RE ALL CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. AND WORK SHOULD NOT TRAP PEOPLE IN POVERTY. THE ONLY BUSINESSES HURT BY THIS WILL BE THE ONES WHO SURVIVE BY PAYING PEOPLE LESS THEY CAN LIVE ON. THAT'S NOT A BUSINESS MODEL TO DEPEND ON MORALLY OR ETHICALLY. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY ADEO FOLLOWED BY MITCHELL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM THE CEO OF THE NEW MEXICO RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AND REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF RESTAURANTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. 70% OF WHICH ARE SMALL INDEPENDENT RESTAURANTS. I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER REALITY RESTAURANTS FACE WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS A 25% INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE. A $3 INCREASE IN BASE WAGE RAISES -- ALL WAGES. A SMALL RESTAURANT WITH 25 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD PAY AN ADDITIONAL $156,000 PER YEAR IN PAYROLL. THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE FICA AND ALL THE OTHER TAXES. RESTAURANT OPERATORS ARE ALREADY FACING HIGHER COST FOR FOOD, LABOR, INSURANCE AND SECURITY. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HEALTHY INDUSTRY THAT CAN EASILY ABSORB SUDDEN WAGE INCREASES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY MAKING PAINFUL CHOICES JUST TO STAY OPEN. ACROSS THE CITY, WE'VE ALL SEEN RESTAURANT SHRINK HOURS, CLOSE FOR LUNCH, CLOSE EARLY, CUT DINNER SERVICES BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO STAY OPEN. THAT MATTERS TO WORKERS TOO. WHEN RESTAURANTS REDUCE HOURS, EMPLOYEES LOSE SHIFTS, LOSE INCOME AND SOMETIMES LOSE THE ABILITY THEY NEED TO KEEP MAKING ENDS MEET. >> ADEO FOLLOWED BY MITCHELL FOLLOWED BY PALOMA. >> I WORKED IN THOSE RESTAURANTS AND LET ME TELL YOU THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SUBMINIMUM WORK. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE SUBMINIMUM WAGES. IT IS RIDICULOUS THAT RESTAURANTS AND MANY OTHER BUSINESSES OPERATE ON SUCH RAISER THIN MARGINS. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, CREATE EXTRA COST TO THE CONSUMER AND CALL THAT TIPS AND MAKE -- ABOUT IT. A DIGNIFIED WAGE IS -- IT'S THE REAL SOLUTION HERE. AND THIS WILL SEPARATE THE GOOD RESTAURANTS FROM THE BAD RESTAURANTS. THIS WILL SEPARATE WORKERS FROM -- >> MITCHELL FOLLOWED BY PALOMA FOLLOWED BY JOE. >> IN A FORMER LIFE I WAS PROPERTY MANAGER. IT'S RELITANT TO THE TOPIC OF RAISING MINIMUM WAGE. THE AVERAGE LANDLORD REQUIRES THREE TIMES RENT PER MONTH. THAT MEAN PHYSICAL YOUR RENT IS 1250 YOU REQUIRE THAT THREE TIMES PER MONTH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MINIMUM WAGE BEING $12.50, YOU'RE NOT MAKING 1.5 TIMES THAT TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY TO EVEN RENT AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE. AND THERE'S ALSO THAT AGE GAP OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH IS NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED. SO, SOME OF US HAVE HAD BARRIERS TO ACCESS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A PERSON -- IN THE INSTANCES AND EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENTARY LIKE IT'S HUMAN DIGNITY TO NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO AFFORD YOUR RENT -- RENT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IS 75% OF THE AVERAGE AMERICAN'S INCOME. THAT GIVES THEM 25% FOR BASIC DAILY LIVING. IT'S INHUMAN. RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. >> PALOMA FOLLOWED BY JOE FOLLOWED BY ARASELI. JOE FOLLOWED BY ARASELI FOLLOWED BY LOSMILO. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I NOTICED I'M PAYING $2 MORE FOR A BOTTLE OF SALSA. I'M ALSO PAYING A LOT MORE WHEN I GO OUT TO EAT. I'M PAYING A LOT MORE FOR GAS. REALLY PAYING A LOT MORE FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. I WONDER -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT YOUR HAND UP. IF YOUR COST HAVE GONE DOWN, RAISE YOUR HAND. I DON'T HAVE TO TURN AROUND TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT. IF HAD COSTS HAVE GONE UP, AND THE COST OF HOUSING HAS GONE UP, WE CAN'T -- WAGES CAN'T GO UP? WHERE IS THAT $2 FOR THE SALSA GOING? WHERE IS THE EXTRA 1.50 ON MAY PLATE GOING? I'M NOT MAD AT SMALL BUSINESSES. I RUN A BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BUSINESS MODEL TO BE HAD AND PAID ATTENTION TO. RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE IS COMMON SENSE. I'M GLAD TO SEE COUNCILORS PUT IT FORWARD. I'M GLAD TO SEE IT PASSED AS WRITTEN. THIS PUTS RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON EMPLOYERS WHERE IT BELONGS. IF YOU CAN'T PAY A LIVING WAGE, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE BUSINESS MODEL. WORKERS AND TAXPAYERS SHOULDN'T BE SUBSIDIZING COMPANIES THAT PAY POVERTY WAGES. PASS THE BILL. PASS IT AS IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ARASELI FOLLOWED BY ROSELIO. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS. I AM A MEMBER OF EL CENTRO. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I WORKED EVEN TWO JOBS IN RESTAURANT WHERE I WAS PAID $14 PER HOUR, WITH MY HUSBAND'S INCOME IT WAS NOT ENOUGH TO COVER RENT OR MAKE ENDS MEET. LATER THROUGH GREAT EFFORT AND ACHIEVEMENT, I WAS ABLE TO SECURE JOB AS SPECIAL EDUCATION ASSISTANT WHERE I EARN $23 PER HOUR. EVEN THEN WITH MY SALARY AND THAT OF MY HUSBANDS, THE REALITY REMAINS DIFFICULT. THE CAR PAYMENTS NEEDED TO -- IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE CAR PAYMENT. TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK, PAY THE GAS, UTILITIES FOOD. AS WELL AS PAY $2,300 RENT. IT MAKES IT A CONSTANT STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE EVERY MONTH. THAT IS WHY I ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE DUE TO THE ECONOMIC SITUATION THAT AFFECTS US DAY BY DAY BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF LIVING AND LOW WAGES WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING. THANK YOU. >> ROSALIO FOLLOWED BY NORA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I WILL BE READING MY UNCLE'S TESTIMONY. I AM A MEMBER OF -- AND OWNER OF TAQUERA. MY EXPERIENCE WHEN WAGES ARE TOO LOW WORKERS NOT ONLY STRUGGLE TO COVER THEIR BASIC NEEDS, BUT THEY ALSO LIVE UNDER CONSTANT STRESS WHICH AFFECTS STABILITY AND PERFORMANCE TO WORK. THIS RESULTS IN TURNOVER AND CONSTANT NEED TO TRAIN NEW STAFF. A RESTAURANT DEPENDS ON PEOPLE. CUSTOMERS DON'T JUST COME BACK FOR THE PLATE. THEY COME BACK FOR THE FLAVOR, THE SEASONING AND CONSISTENT QUALITY THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE PEOPLE IN THE KITCHEN. IF COOKS AND STAFF ARE NOT PAID WELL THEY LEAVE AND BUSINESS LOSES EXPERIENCE, AND CUSTOMERS. I PAY MY COWORKERS $15 AN HOUR AND I HAVE TO -- THERE'S MORE COMMITMENT AND STABILITY WITHIN THE TEAM AND BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AND ASK YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR FOR THE $15 MINIMUM WAGE. THANK YOU. >> NORA FOLLOWED BY OLGA FOLLOWED BY CHRISSY. >> [ SPEAKING SPANISH ]. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> OLGA FOLLOWED BY CHRISTY FOLLOWED BY BOBBY. MY MISTAKE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I AM A MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, CHILD CARE PROVIDER AND MEMBER OF EL CENTRO. I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE -- WHEN A TEACHER LEAVES IT IS NOT JUST THE LOSS OF ON EMPLOYEE, IT'S THE LOSS OF THE EMOTIONAL STABILITY OF -- IT CAUSES DISRUPTION IN THE EMOTIONAL STABILITY OF THE CHILDREN. MANY YOUNG CHILDREN SPEND NINE HOURS CAY IN CHILD CARE. THIS IS THEIR SECOND HOME. THEY NEED CONSISTENCY, FAMILIAR FACES AND CAREGIVERS. TURNOVER CREATES STRESS AND INSKIRT SECURITY FOR FEWER ABSENCE AND MORE STABLE TEAM. THIS IMPROVES QUALITY OF CARE AND STRENGTHENS MY BUSINESS. THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE AND RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES. THANK YOU. >> OLGA FOLLOWED BY CHRISSY FOLLOWED BY BOBBY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM A WORKER'S RIGHTS ORGANIZER. AN ORGANIZATION WITH MORE THAN 6,000 WORKERS. WE'RE PROUD IN OUR CITY IMMIGRANT WORKERS REPRESENT AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE WORKFORCE IN SECTORS SUCH AS CONSTRUCTION, AGRICULTURE, CAREGIVING AND ENERGY. HOWEVER, TODAY WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE ARE FACING A CLEAR REALITY. WAGES IN ALBUQUERQUE ARE NO LONGER ENOUGH TO LIVE ON. WORKING FAMILIES ARE BEING FORCED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING RENT, PAYING FOR GAS, OR PURCHASING MEDICATION. WHILE THE COST OF LIVING CONTINUES TO RISE. IN ADDITION, MANY WORKERS FACE WAGE THEFT AND OTHER WORKPLACE ABUSES. THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE TO 15PER HOUR. THIS MEASURE IS A RESOLUTION THAT WILL HELP THOUSANDS OF WORKERS MEET BASIC NEEDS AND STRENGTHEN LOCAL ECONOMY BECAUSE WHEN WORKERS EARN MORE THEY INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> CHRISTY FOLLOWED BY BOBBY FOLLOWED BY DENNIS. >> HELLO, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I AM WITH LIBRA INITIATIVE. I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO RESOLUTION 26-33. WHILE THE INTENTION BEHIND RAISING WAGES IS UNDERSTANDABLE, WE MUST ALSO CONSIDER THE UNAM -- UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR BUSINESSES IN ALBUQUERQUE. MANY LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE FACING HIGHER COST FOR REN, UTILITY, AND HIGHER SUPPLIES. BUSINESSES OFTEN HAVE TO RAISE PRICES, REDUCE EMPLOYEE HOURS, DELAY HIRING, OR AUTOMATE JOBS OR IN SOME CASES EVEN CLOSE THEIR DOORS. THE PEOPLE MOST AFFECTED ARE OFTEN THE VERY INDIVIDUALS WE SEEK TO HELP. ENTRY LEVEL WORKERS, IMMIGRANTS LIKE MYSELF, YOUNG PEOPLE SEEKING THEIR FIRST JOB AND SMALL BUSINESSES. BUSINESS OWNERS TRYING TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN LABOR COSTS RAISE FASTER THAN REVENUE FEWER OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SEEKING TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE. THANK YOU. >> BOBBY FOLLOWED BY DENNIS FOLLOWED BY ALISON. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM FROM AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE. AT AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY WE BELIEVE EVERYONE NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED AND HIGHER WAGES. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER A COMBUCHALITY MANDATE IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. A 25% INCREASE IN LABOR COST WILL BE ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS AND FAMILY OWNED EMPLOYERS STRUGGLING WITH INFLATION AND RISING OPERATING EXPENSES. MANY WILL BE FORCED TO RAISE PRICES, REDUCE EMPLOYEE HOURS, DELAY HIRING, OR CUT BACK ON EXPANSION. MANY EMPLOYEES WILL ALSO BE TERMINATED. WHEN HIRING BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE, EMPLOYERS OFTEN BECOME MORE SELECTIVE. REDUCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO NEED THEM MOST. HIGHER WAGES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT LASTING WAGE COMES FROM A STRONG ECONOMY THRIVING BUSINESSES AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORKERS TO DEVELOP SKILLS AND ADVANCE. I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PROPOSAL AND VOTE NO ON INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15. THANK YOU FOR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> DENNIS FOLLOWED BY ALISON FOLLOWED BY PAUL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THIS IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU. I MUST REMIND YOU THAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO YOUR VOTERS AND IT THE TRUE TAXPAYERS. RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE WILL DESTROY SMALL BUSINESSES. IT WILL ELIMINATE JOBS. ELIMINATE FULL-TIME JOBS. AND EVEN ELIMINATE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE HEALTH CARE AND INFLATE OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENFORCE GATHERING TAXES THAT ARE NOT PAID PROPERLY, AND MAYBE MAKE CNM MORE AFFORDABLE SO PEOPLE CAN RAISE THEIR SKILL LEVEL AND THEIR EDUCATION AND GO GET A BETTER JOB. AT ONE TIME, I WORKED AS A MINIMUM WAGE EARNER, AND THAT FORCED ME TO GET A BETTER JOB TO GET MORE EDUCATION. I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. THANK YOU. >> ALISON FOLLOWED BY PAUL FOLLOWED BY ANGIE. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I REPRESENT THE NEW MEXICO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE RESPECT THE INTENT OF THIS ORDINANCE BUT ASK YOU TO CONSIDER INDUSTRIES WHERE REIMBURSEMENT RATES OR CONTRACT LIMIT THE ABILITY TO ADJUST PRICES. AT THE, HOME HEALTH AND HOSPICE CARE. THE TRUE COST OF PAYING $15 AN HOUR WHEN YOU FACTOR PAYROLL TAXES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IS ABOUT $23 AN HOUR. CURRENTLY, THE RECOMMENDED REIMBURSEMENT RATE IS AT MOST $20.40 AN HOUR. LEAVING OPERATORS OPERATING AT A $3 DEFICIT PER HOUR. THIS RESULTS IN ESSENTIAL SERVICES BECOMING FINANCIALLY UNSUSTAINABLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE AUTOMATIC ESCALATOR. A ONE TIME INCREASE IS DIFFERENT THAN CREATING A FORMULA THAT RAISES COST EVERY YEAR REGARDLESS OF ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. ECONOMISTS HAVE BACKED UP PROPOSITIONS CLAIMING BUSINESSES WILL CUT POSITIONS, HIRE TWO PEOPLE FOR -- ONE PERSON FOR TWO ROLES OR INVEST IN AUTOMATION. WE URGE YOU TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES THAT SUPPORT BOTH EMPLOYERS AND BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. >> PAUL FOLLOWED BY ANGIE FOLLOWED BY KIERAN. ANGIE FOLLOWED BY -- I'M SORRY. FOLLOWED BY BLAKE. KIERAN FOLLOWED BY BLAKE FOLLOWED BY DENISE. >> HELLO. I AM HERE TO ARGUE AGAINST RAISING MINIMUM WAGE. I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WANT IT. I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THAT, BUT REALISTICALLY, IT DOESN'T DO VERY MUCH GOOD. THERE'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION THAT GETS MINIMUM WAGE. WHEN MINIMUM WAGE IS RAISED, A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL DO BETTER AND THEY WILL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL INFLATION MAKES IT NULL. WHAT WE WON'T SEE IS THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET A JOB. THE IMMIGRANTS, A HOMELESS PERSON TRYING NOT TO BE HOMELESS, AND WON'T GET HIRED BECAUSE THEY RAISED THE STANDARD ABOVE WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY. MINIMUM WAGE SHOULDN'T BE A CAREER AND IT SHOULDN'T BE A LIVING WAGE. IT SHOULD BE A STARTING JOB AND IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING TO HELP YOU GET SOMEWHERE BETTER. THANK YOU. >> BLAKE FOLLOWED BY DENISE FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. DENISE FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY TINA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS, I OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. WE'RE NOT A CITY LIKE SANTA FE, PHOENIX OR DENVER. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I DROVE OVER THE STATE LINE INTO CALIFORNIA. I STOPPED AT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT TO GET BREAK FAST. WHILE AT THE COUNTER, A GENTLEMEN CAME TO GET A SENIOR COFFEE. HE WAS TOLD HE DIDN'T GIVE THE CASHIER ENOUGH MONEY. HE QUESTIONED WHY HEHAD TO PAY MORE HAPPEN WHAT -- THAN WHAT HE HAD BEEN. HE WAS TOLD THE MINIMUM WAGE WENT UP. IN STUDIES DONE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, IT HAS SHOWN AN INCREASE OF MINIMUM WAGE WILL REDUCE EMPLOYEE HOURS, INCREASE PRICES, AND POSSIBLY ELIMINATE JOBS EVEN USING AUTOMATION. THERE ARE MANY FACTORS IN THIS ORDINANCE WHICH ARE CONFUSING AND DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND SUCH AS THE $2500 BENEFIT PAYMENTS FOR INSURANCE OR CHILD CARE. MAKING IT TIED TO AVERAGE COST OF RENT AND COST-OF-LIVING INDEX IS CONFUSING AND REQUIRES ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK AND PROBLEMS WITH SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE -- WAGES SHOULD BE BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND NEED FOR INCENTIVE TO GET PROMOTION OR BETTER EDUCATED FOR REDUCTION IN TAXES. THANK YOU. >> JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY TINA FOLLOWED BY JONAH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE. I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE BASED UPON SOME OF THE EARLIER COMMENTS IS AN EXHAUSTIVE STUDY HASN'T WIN DONE, BUSINESSES HAVEN'T BEEN CONSULATED. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A NEW TERM I LEARNED. IT'S SOMETHING CALLED SUICIDAL EMPATHY. THAT IS WHEN COMPASSION BECOMES THE HIGHEST GOOD TRUMPING TRUTH BOUNDARIES AND SURVIVAL STOPS BEING COMPASSION. IT BECOMES SUICIDE FOR THE SOCIETY THAT IT'S TRYING TO BRING THIS FORWARD. IF WE DON'T DO ENOUGH STUDY, IF WE DON'T LOOK AT THIS PROPERLY, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE PRETENDING TO HELP BECAUSE WE ARE SO EMPATHETIC IN THEIR CAUSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TINA FOLLOWED BY JONAH. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M GOING TO ASK THE SECURITY TO EXIT THEM OUT. I THINK WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THEIR DUE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE RIDICULING ANYONE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. PEÑA: IT WAS ACTUALLY ADEO. I'LL BE THE ONE SPEAKING. MR. ADEO CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE? >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS WILL JUST PROLONG THE EVENING. WE'LL HAVE TO END UP HAVING TO CLEAR THE CHAMBERS. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS TINA FOLLOWED BY JONAH FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. JONAH FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY MONA. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A BUSINESS STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO. IT IS AGAINST POLICY TO MISPRONOUNCE SOMEONE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. I SUPPORT THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE WITH A HUGE BUT. THE NARRATIVE IS TWO-SIDED. ONE SUPPORTS MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE TO MATCH THE LIVING WAGE, AND THE OTHER DOES NOT SUPPORT IT FOR BUSINESS CONCERNS. RAISING MINIMUM WAGE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SUPPORT BOTH SIDES IF AND ONLY IF COST OF LIVING INCREASE IS. THIS IS A GREAT INCREASE IF YOU BALANCE IS TO NO BARRIER LIKE TRANSIT HEALTH CARE. THE CONCERNS RAISED ARE VALID BECAUSE THE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES DO NOT PUT TRUST IN YOU ALL YET TO KNOW THEIR INVESTMENTS INTO EMPLOYEES IS GOING TO THE CORRECT PLACE. THEY WOULD BE SATISFIED IN THE END BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING WITH EXPENSES WOULD DECREASE BECAUSE OF IT. PLEASE INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAUJ WAGE AND -- WHO HAVE BEEN FAILED BY OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS WASTING TAX DOLLARS. HAPPY PRIDE MONTH AND THANK YOU ALL. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. CORNELIUS, I THINK IT IS MUTED ON ZOOM WE'RE BEING TOLD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TO THE LAST SPEAKER, I'M SORRY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ZOOM ON MUTE. I AGREE. I THINK WE SHOULD LEARN -- THAT WAS AN ERROR. I APOLOGIZE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL. HAPPY PRIDE MONTH. THANK YOU FOR MODELING HOW WHEN WE DO MAKE A SMALL MISTAKE, WE CAN OWN IT AND APOLOGIZE TO THE PERSON AND TRY TO LEARN. I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THIS COUNCIL BRINGING UP SOME THINGS THAT CAN HELP WORKERS AND RENTERS TONIGHT. -- I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE ORDINANCES TONIGHT. TO THE MINIMUM WAGE, I SPOKE ON FRIDAY AT LUNCH WITH A SMALL BUSINESS OWNERER AND ASKING HER WHAT SHE THOUGHT. I HAVE NEVER BEEN AN EMPLOYER. SHE SAYS WE ALREADY PAY OR WORKERS MORE THAN $15 AN HOUR. THAT'S GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU ARE A GOOD BUSINESS OWNER YOU HAVE TO COMPETE WITH BAD BUSINESS OWNERS WHO PAY BAD WAGES. AND I DO AGREE THE 25% INCREASE ALL AT ONCE IS A BIG JUMP BECAUSE PRICES DIDN'T STAY STAGNANT. WE SHOULD ALWAYS PAY PEOPLE MORE. THE MINIMUM WAGE WENT UP A DOLLAR A YEAR. IF SOMEONE DID THAT, THEY WOULD OWE THEIR MINIMUM WAGE EMPLOYEES $9,000. PLEASE PASS THIS ORDINANCE. >> MONA FOLLOWED BY MARA FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM A LOCK -- LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT A GOOD PERSONAL FRIEND THAT COULDN'T BE HERE THAT DEMONSTRATES HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE FULL COMMUNITY. SHE OWNS TWO RESTAURANTS. ONE ON WEST SIDE, AND ONE IN SANTA FE. THE ONE IN SANTA FE IS HIGHER. SHE SAID IF YOU PASS THIS, HER PRICES ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GO UP OR SHE HAS TO LAYOFF PEOPLE OR CUT NEW HIRES. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED A STEADY AND ECONOMIC STUDY. AND WHY WE NEED SMALL BUSINESS INPUT. I THINK IT WOULD BE -- I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD. IT WOULD BE BEHOOVE YOU TO DO THOSE STUDIES BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS VOTE. THEREFORE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEFEAT THIS AT THIS POINT. THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE'S A CRISIS WITH THE COST OF LIVING. THERE'S NO DOUBT EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE A $3 AN HOUR RAISE. I THINK THIS IS SHORTSIGHTED AND TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM BIGGER THAN A $3 WAGE INCREASE. THANK YOU. >> MARA FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY JUSTINA. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE FROM $12 TO $15 AN HOUR. I AM A RETIRED APS SCHOOL TEACHER. WHEN I WAS GETTING MY EDUCATION DEGREE, I ALSO HAD THREE PART-TIME JOBS. WE NEED MINIMUM WAGE JOBS FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR, BUT THEY'RE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS. THAT'S WHY I HAD THREE OF THEM. I PROVED MYSELF AS A DEPENDABLE GOOD WORKER AND RECEIVED PAY INCREASES BASED ON MERIT. WE NEED MORE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY LIKE I HAD. I ALSO HAD TWO ROOMMATES BACK THEN. SO THAT'S HOW YOU AFFORD A GOOD APARTMENT. YOU HAVE ROOMMATES. PLEASE OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSED MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE AND JUNE IS THE MONTH OF THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS. THANK YOU. >> KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY JUSTINA FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW. >> MINIMUM WAGE CARRIES A STIGMA IN THE COUNTRY. IF YOU ARE EARN MINIMUM WAGE, YOU'RE SEEN AS STUPID. EVEN IF YOU GRADUATED DURING RECESSION AND HAD TO CUP PEAT WITH VETERANS WITH 15 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. AND AS THE COST OF LIVING RISES WHEN YOUR WAGES FAIL SUPPORT YOU YOU'RE ACCUSED OF WANTING A HANDOUT. WE DON'T WANT A HANDOUT. WE WANT A HAND UP. WE WAN AGENCY TO PROVIDE FOR OURSELVES. THAT IS WHAT A MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE ENABLES. EVERY JOB SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LIFE WITH DIGNITY. IF NOT, THEN WHAT ARE WE WORKING FOR? RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE PAYING $15 AN HOUR, BUT THEY HAVE TO COMPETE WITH BUSINESSES UNDERCUT BY UNDERPAYING WORKERS. HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY BUSINESS OWNER MAKING A LIVING WHEN THE EMPLOYEES WHOSE LABOR THAT BUSINESS IS BUILT UPON CANNOT MAKE A LIVING WITH THEIR WAGES? VOTING AGAINST MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE IN THIS ECONOMY IS NOT SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES. IT IS SUPPORTING EXPLOITATION. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS THAT ISN'T GOING TO PAY ITS WORKERS LIVING WAGE. I'M GOING TO DO MY OWN AUDIT OF ALL THE BUSINESSES I SUPPORT AND ANYONE IF THIS IS NOT PASSED WHO DOES NOT PAY MINIMUM WAGE TO EMPLOYEES I WILL BE PERSONALLY BOYCOTTING. LET'S SEE HOW GOOD THAT IS THERE BUSINESS. >> JUSTINE, FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW FOLLOWED BY PRACASH. >> MY FIRST JOB TAUGHT ME RESPONSIBILITY, COMMUNICATION AND WORK ETHIC. AS WELL AS I WAS RAISED ON SMALL BUSINESSES. ENTRY LEVEL JOBS ARE OFTEN STEPPINGSTONES THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE GAIN EXPERIENCE. I'M CONCERNED THAT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 COULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND THOSE ENTERING THE WORKFORCE TO GET THAT FIRST OPPORTUNITY. WHEN LABOR COST RISES SIGNIFICANTLY, EMPLOYERS MAY HIRE FEWER WORKERS OR EXPECT MORE EXPERIENCE FOR JOBS THAT WERE ONCE ENTRY LEVEL. AS WELL AS CREATING MAJOR CHALLENGES FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR YOUNG PEOPLE THAT DESIRE TO OWN A BUSINESS AND DETER THEM FROM PURSUING THAT OPTION. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO PROTECT OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE WORKERS BY VOTING NO ON THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. >> MATTHEW FOLLOWED BY PRACASH FOLLOWED BY NATHAN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS EXECUTIVE FOR THE ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE CHAMBER RECOGNIZES THE RISING COSTS THAT ARE A SERIOUS CONCERN FOR FAMILIES, WORKERS AND EMPLOYERS. 26-33 IS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE POLICY OR MEASURED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. AS DRAFTED IT'S A WAGE MANDATE ON EMPLOYERS WHO ARE FACING HIGHER RENT, INSURANCE, UTILITY AND TAXES AND OPERATING PRESSURES. THE CHAMBER OPPOSES THIS ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED. WE CANNOT BEGIN TO CONSIDER SUPPORT UNLESS THREE MAJOR CHANGES WERE MADE. FIRST, THE INCREASE TO $15 MUST BE PHASED. MOVING $15 TO 20% INCREASE AFFECTS PAYROLL TAXES AND OVERTIME PRICING AND STAFFING AND THE COST PAID BY CUSTOMERS. SECOND, THE FAIR MARKET RENT MUST BE REMOVED BY THE ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT FORMULA. LOCAL BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR RISING HOUSING COST DRIVEN BY MANY FACTORS OUTSIDE CONTROL. HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH HOUSING POLICIES NOT BY PAYROLL GLAKZ BLAIKZS. OBLIGATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PRACASH FOLLOWED BY NATHAN FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU. OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN HEAD QUARTED IN ALBUQUERQUE SINCE 1995. WE OWN AND OPERATE SIX PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND EMPLOY MORE THAN 200 EMPLOYEES. WE'RE JOB CREATORS. WE ALREADY PAY $15 PER HOUR FOR OUR ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS PLUS HEALTH CARE, DENTAL VISION AND 401K. AN ADDITIONAL COST IS $2.95 PER HOUR. BRINGING THE ENTRY LEVEL COMPENSATION TO $17.95 BEFORE PAYROLL, TAXES, WORKERS COMP AND OTHER COST. OUR CONCERN SUBSECTION C WHICH PLACES FUTURE WAGE POLICY ON AUTOPILOT THROUGH AN AUTOMATIC FORMULA THROUGH CPI AND FAIR MARKET RENT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE PUT IN THE POSITION OF CUTTING BENEFITS TO PAY FOR FUTURE INCREASES LIKE THE CPI. THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL IS ELECTED TO EVALUATE FACTS, HEAR PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND EXERCISE GOOD JUDGMENT. MINIMUM WAGE POLICIES SHOULD REMAIN WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS RATHER THAN BEING DELEGATED TO A FORMULA WITHOUT CONSIDERATION TO OTHER FACTORS SPECIFIC TOO ALBUQUERQUE. AUTOPILOT POLICY IS NOT GOOD POLICY. >> NATHAN FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY GEORGE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, MY NAME IS NATE. I OWN AND OPERATE ASSISTED LIVING COMMUNITIES IN THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST NEIGHBORHOODS. FIRST, I WANT TO EXPRESS WE VALUE OUR CAREGIVERS AND STAFF. THEY PROVIDE COMPASSIONATE CARE TO SENIORS EVERY DAY AND DESERVE FAIR WAGES AND RESPECT FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THEY DO. HOWEVER, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES THE PROPOSED MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE WILL HAVE ON OUR SENIORS. LABOR IS BY FAR LARGEST OPERATING EXPENSE. ACCOUNTING FOR NEARLY 50% OF OUR ENTIRE BUDGET. INCREASED LABOR EXPENSES RESULT IN HIGHER MONTHLY RATES FOR RESIDENTS. MANY OF WHOM LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES SUCH AS SOCIAL SECURITY RER RETIREMENT SAVINGS. FAMILIES STRUGGLE TO AFFORD QUALITY SENIOR CARE. AN ADDITIONAL COST INCREASE WILL PLACE ASSISTED LIVING OUT OF REACH FOR MANY MORE ALBUQUERQUE SENIORS. A CITYWIDE WAGE MANDATE WILL HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR SENIORS. REDUCING AFFORDABILITY AND ACCESS AT A TIME WHEN ALBUQUERQUE'S AGING POPULATION NEEDS MORE CARE NOT FEWER. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO EVALUATE THIS IMPACT ON SENIORS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY GEORGE FOLLOWED BY THOMAS. >> I'VE HEARD LOT OF MENTION OF RISING COSTS TONIGHT. I THINK THE UNDERSTANDABLE END TO THAT FOR ALL OF US IS THAT OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP. IT'S GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE AT. WE'RE IN THE SAME DAMN BOAT. AND IT'S CRAZY TO HAVE US FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND AIRING EACH OTHER APART OVER THIS STUFF. WHETHER I CAN'T SURVIVE AS A BUSINESS OR I CAN'T SURVIVE AS A HUMAN BEING WORKING AT THIS BUSINESS. IT'S PITTING EACH OTHER AGAINST EACH OTHER. I THINK WHEN WE DON'T ADDRESS THINGS OR PASS RENTAL PROTECTION OR DO OTHER THINGS TO MAKE COST GO DOWN IN OTHER WAYS. IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE OF A FACTOR. MY RENT WILL NOT STOP GOING UP, KEEPING ME AT THE SAME WAGE -- IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE LIVED IN THE WORLD WHERE MINIMUM WAGE WAS ENTRY LEVEL JOBS AND HIGH SCHOOLERS, BUT IT'S NOT. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION GREAT TO SEE THE KOCH FOUNDED AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY HERE. I HEARD BUSINESS OWNERS TALKING ABOUT AUTOMATION. WHEN WILL I BE ABLE TO HAVE AUTOMATED DISH WASHERS. WHEN I BE ABLE TO DO THAT? THAT'S NOT A POINT. >> GEORGE FOLLOWED BY THOMAS FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR HAVING US SPEAK. I OWN TOMASITAS. WE'RE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THE RATE INCREASE IN THIS PROPOSAL. IF THE GOAL IS HELP WORKERS WITH THE LOWEST EARNINGS, A HIGH TIPPED HOURLY RATE MISSES THE MARK. IT REQUIRES RESTAURANTS TO GIVE RAISES TO THOSE WHO ARE HIGHEST PAID IN THE BUILDING. I ANALYZED A FUEL YEAR OF PAYROLL DATA. THE AVERAGE INCOME FOR ALL TIPPED EMPLOYEES INCLUDING BUSKERS, SERVERS, AND FOOD RUNNERS IS $27.44 PER HOUR. THE KITCHEN EMPLOYEES WAS $20.66.AN HOUR. THE SERVERS AVERAGED WELL OVER $35 PER HOUR WITH TIPS. THOSE ARE ANNUAL AVERAGES ACROSS ALL SHIFTS. NOT JUST BUSY NIGHTS. RESTAURANTS OPERATE ON FINITE LABOR BUDGET. EVERY ADDITIONAL DOLLAR MANDATED FOR TIPPED EMPLOYEES IS A DOLLAR THAT WE CANNOT USE FOR RAISES, STAFFING AND CAREER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COOKS, DISH WASH WASHERS. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU INCREASE PRICES, DOLLARS REMAIN LIMITED. THE PROPOSAL FORCES ME TO GIVE A RAISE TO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ALREADY MAKING $30 AN HOUR SO I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GIVE A RAISE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE KITCHEN LIKE MANY OF THE FOLKS IN BLUE SHIRTS WHO ARE ONLY MAKING $17. THAT IS AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF MINIMUM WAGE I ASK YOU TO NOT PASS THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. >> THOMAS FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON FOLLOWED BY KEITH. >> HELLO. TODAY MY COMMENTS IS NOT DIRECTED AT PRESIDENT PENA OR THE COUNCIL, BUT TO YOU, THE AUDIENCE AT HOME. IF YOU'RE WATCHING AT HOME YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING IS CITY COUNCIL GOING TO PASS A $15 MINIMUM WAGE? ARE MY POLITICIANS BRIBED BY ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS IN THIS ROOM? AND WHY ARE SO MANY BALDING MEN AND BOTOXED WOMEN HERE TO SUPPORT FANCY MINIMUM WAGE EFFORTS. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU. LET'S READ A STORY I CALL DAN LEWIS EMAIL. CAN I HAVE THE TOP PLEASE? CAN I HAVE FIVE SECONDS BACK TO SHOW THIS? THERE YOU GO. I ADVISED THOSE OF YOU AT HOME TO PAUSE YOUR SCREEN AND READ THIS EMAIL. IT'S FROM DAN LEWIS. STEVE, WOULD YOU MAKE A SPECIFIC LIST OF ME OF LINES IN THE BILL THAT YOU WOULD DELETE OUT. WHERE -- I REALIZE YOU WOULD LIKE TO DELETE THE ENTIRE BILL. THIS IS ONE STRATEGY I CAN USE TO KILL IT. JUST MAKE A SPECIFIC LINE YOU WOULD LIKE TO DELETE OR CHANGE. AND JUST SEND IT TO ME. THAT'S TO OUR FOLKS AT THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO. STEVE GRANT. IF YOU ARE WONDERING -- THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. ARE MY POLITICIANS COLLABORATING WITH THE LOBBYISTS TO MAKE BILLS HAPPEN OR KILL THE ONES THEY DON'T LIKE? THE ANSWER IS YES. DAN LEWIS SENDS THE INFORMATION HE WANTS TO HIS LOBBYISTS, THEY SAY HERE'S THE LANGUAGE I WANT. DELETE THIS. WRITE THIS. PUT THIS AMENDMENT IN. I'LL DO IT FOR YOU. THAT'S WHAT DAN LEWIS'S GAME IS. THAT'S NOT ALL. ON HIS OWN CAMP PAIN HE SAYS HE FUNDED BY THE REALTOR'S ASSOCIATION. I WAS LOOKING AT COUNCILOR PEÑA'S CAMPAIGN MATERIALS. IT SAYS OF THAT ASSOCIATION, WHOSE FUNDING IT? THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM TONIGHT. HERE'S MY QUESTION TO YOU, DAN, SINCE THOSE FOLKS AT THE RESTAURANT. >>COUN. PEÑA: DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO ME. DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO ME. THIS IS YOUR SECOND WARNING. YOU GOT A WARNING EARLIER. ESCORT HIM OUT. [ INAUDIBLE SPEAKING ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: THOSE ARE THE RULES. I DON'T KNOW IF THE DIRECTOR WANTS TO MENTION THE RULES. [ SPEAKING WITHOUT MICROPHONE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS IS YOUR SECOND WARNING. THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR THIRD WARNING. YOU'RE ESCORTED OUT. [ SOMEONE SPEAKING WITHOUT MICROPHONE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU REFER TO THE RULES? YOU'RE STILL BEING ESCORTED OUT? >>COUN. ROGERS: MADAM CHAIR, I'M CONFUSED. YOU GAVE HIM A WARNING. WHICH MEANS IT'S A WARNING. >>COUN. PEÑA: EARLIER. >>COUN. ROGERS: HOW MANY WARNINGS DO PEOPLE GET? >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE DOING THIRD. WE'RE AT ALMOST FOURTH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECESS AGAIN. [ SPEAKING IN THE BACKGROUND ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE GOING TO RECESS FOR ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE -- COUNCILOR TELLES, IF SHE CAN COME IN. I THINK WE'RE MISSING SOME COUNCILORS. WHILE THEY'RE COMING BACK, I'M GOING TO HAVE VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE READ THE RULES AGAIN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, NO APPLAUDING, OR SNAPPING, OR OTHER OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE PRESIDENT WILL PROVIDE ONE WARNING TO ANYONE CAUSING A DISRUPTION. UPON A SECOND OR CONTINUED DISRUPTION, THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS. IF NECESSARY, SECURITY WILL BE ASKED TO ESCORT THAT PERSON OF THE CHAMBERS. SUCH REMOVAL FROM THE CHAMBERS WILL BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING. IF CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS OCCUR, THE PRESIDENT MAY RECESS THE MEETING UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED. IF NECESSARY, MAY CLEAR THE CHAMBERS OF PERSONS PARTICIPATING IN THAT DISTURBANCE. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. MR. CORNELIUS, PLEASE CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. RHIAMNON FOLLOWED BY KEITH FOLLOWED BY VANESSA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT HEARING FROM SO MANY PEOPLE. IT'S A LOT OF PASSION AND DIFFERING OPINIONS. I REPRESENT NAOP. WE REPRESENT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES ACROSS NEW MEXICO. WE JOIN A BROAD COALITION OF BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRY ORGANIZATIONS IN OPPOSITION TO O-26-33. ALBUQUERQUE IS COMPETING FOR EVERYDAY JOBS. INVESTMENTS IN BUSINESS EXPANSION. POLICIES THAT INCREASE LABOR COST PARTICULARLY WHEN COMBINED WITH RISING TAXES, INSURANCE COSTS, REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR EMPLOYERS TO GROW, HIRE AND INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. A STRONG ECONOMY IS ULTIMATELY WHAT DRIVES WAGE GROWTH. WE SHOULD FOCUS ON POLICIES THAT ATTRACT EMPLOYERS, EXPAND HOUSING SUPPLY, AND CREATE PATHWAYS TO HIGHER PAYING CAREERS RATHER THAN ADOPTING MEASURES THAT MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR JOB CREATION AND ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS. FOR THOSE REASONS, NAOP STANDS IN SOLIDARITY WITH INDUSTRY PARTNERS AND WE URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. >> KEITH FOLLOWED BY VANESSA. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I OWN TWO BUSINESSES HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE MOVED HERE -- MY PARTNER JENNIFER WAS BORN HERE. HER WHOLE FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE FOR OVER 300 YEARS. LIKE MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE, I WAS A MINIMUM WAGE WORKER. I WORKED HARD. I WAS A PRIVATE IN THE ARMY. FOR 45 YEARS I STRUGGLED AND DID THINGS. AND THINGS START COMING INTO PLAY WITH MY BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING. WE WORK REALLY HARD. I HAVE A DIVERSE WORKFORCE HERE FROM ALBUQUERQUE. WE HAVE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE AND ONE RIGHT HERE IN THE WINROCK AREA. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY TOUGH DECISION TONIGHT TO MAKE. I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THE MINIMUM WAGE. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT. AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN HELP FIRST TIME WORKERS WITH EDUCATION, EMPLOYABILITY SKILLS, HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS. I WAS WONDERING, MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN SOMEBODY TRANSLATE THIS IN SPANISH FOR ME? I NOTICE A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. WE HAVE A TRANSLATOR HERE. >> IS THAT POSSIBLE? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, IT IS. >> READ THIS IN SPANISH FOR ME. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> GIVE ME FIVE SECONDS TO REVIEW. [ -- >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK YOU'RE ALREADY TRANSLATING AS YOU SPEAK. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AS A COURTESY, YES. I JUST ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, MOVING FORWARD, IT IS ALREADY BEING TRANSLATED. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND. THANK YOU. MR. CORNELIUS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. VANESSA FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY GARY. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I AM A DIRECTOR OF SOUTHWEST CAMPAIGN STRATEGIES FOR THE NATIONAL EMPLOYMENT LAW PROJECT. I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. WHILE THE NEW ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE WON'T BE AS HIGH AS SANTA FE'S WHICH RECENTLY INCREASED THE MINIMUM WAGE TO 17.50. I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE PROPOSAL WITH IMPORTANT NEW FEATURES. WHICH IS A PROVISION THAT TIES INCREASES TO RISING INFLATION AND HOUSING COST. SHOULD ALBUQUERQUE'S MINIMUM WAGE STAY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW TIED TO INFLATION, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE AFFORDABILITY GAP BECAUSE HOUSING COSTS ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION. RAISING MINIMUM WAGE REDUCES POVERTY. A STRONGER WAGE GENERATES SAVING AND SAFETY PROGRAMS LIKE SNAP AND TAX CREDIT. INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE ALLOWS WORKERS TO ACCESS HEALTH CARE. RESEARCHERS IN CALIFORNIA ESTIMATED AFTER THEY PASSED THE $20 MINIMUM WAGE, 60% OF MED CAL TRANSFERRED FROM MED CAL TO ALTERNATIVE HEALTH INSURANCE. THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR LOW WAGE WORKERS INCREASES -- IN CASE THEY'RE ABLE TO SPEND MORE -- STUDIES HAVE SHOWN EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE REDUCED HOURS THEY'RE PASSING COST TO CONSUMERS. >> TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY GARY FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. PLEASE VOTE YES ON RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. $15, THAT IS PEEN -- PEANUTS. IT'S NOT LIVABLE. BUT IT'S A STEP. LET'S DO IT. I'M A TEACHER. AND I AM BEING SQUEEZED BY THIS DISASTER OF AN ECONOMY WHICH I THINK WE ALL ANY WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. TOP DOWN. I THINK WE CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY AT THIS POINT THAT TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS DOES NOT WORK. IT TURNS MILLIONAIRES INTO BILLIONAIRES AND THE WORKING CLASS INTO THE WORKING POOR. WE'RE GETTING SQUEEZED AND STEPPED ON EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF THE DAY. I HAVE A 17-YEAR-OLD SON. I WAS IN PANDA EXPRESS. THEY START THEIR WORKERS AT $16. THEY CAN AFFORD IT. WHY CAN'T OUR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO ARE PART OF OUR TRADITION AND CULTURE NOT GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED FROM YOU? GIVE THEM SOMETHING SO THEY CAN PAY. >> GARY FOLLOWED BY CHRISTEN FOLLOWED BY ANGLINA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I'M THE OWNER OF HOLIDAY BOWL. WE'VE OWNED IT FOR 40 YEARS. MARCH 1st OF 86 IS WHEN I PURCHASED THE BUSINESS. THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1958. ONE OF THE OLDEST BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE DID A QUICK ANALYSIS. THE 25% INCREASE IN ONE HIT IS GOING TO HIT OUR PAYROLL AT ABOUT $300,000 IN ADDITIONAL PAYROLL COSTS. YOU PAYROLL LAST YEAR WAS $1.2 MILLION WE PAID TO EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE 55 EMPLOYEES. YOUR $12 EMPLOYEE GOES TO $15. THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR $15 GOES TO $18. AND THE EFFECT THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE PAYROLL. TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, I HAVE TWO OPTIONS. I CAN RAISE PRICES WHICH IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO DO. OR I CAN TRY TO SEE IF I CAN'T GENERATE AN EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY TO BE ABLE TO COVER WHAT THIS INCREASE IS GOING TO DO. I WOULD RATHER SEE A STAGGERED PAY INCREASE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PAY INCREASE. I PROMISE, MR. LEWIS, I WILL NOT DO ANY IMPERSONATIONS. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >> JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA FOLLOWED BY JAKE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, EVERYONE ATTENDING. I'M RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AS AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE. I'M HERE TO GO AGAINST THE BILL. UNTIL YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DO RESEARCH ON THE DATA AND SEEING IF RAISING MINIMUM WAGE WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT OUR ECONOMY IN A POSITIVE WAY, I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD DO THE RESEARCH BEHIND THAT. IF YOU INCREASE IT BY 25%, GASOLINE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL INCREASE BY 25%. THE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS CANNOT PITCH THAT WITHOUT MAKING THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF THEY'RE GETTING THEIR COST AND GETTING THEIR COST TO RAISE, THEY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE COST TO THE CONSUMER. INSTEAD OF RAISING IT, I FEEL LIKE -- I WAS SPEAKING WITH MACY AND SHE WAS FOR THE BILL. A TAX INCENTIVE FOR EMPLOYEE TAXES SHOULD BE REDUCED. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THE CITY CAN DO IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE FRICTION BETWEEN THE TWO COMMUNITIES. I THINK THE COMMUNITIES NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. I FEEL LIKE THE CITY COULD DO MORE TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT BY FINDING OTHER INCENTIVES RATHER THAN RAISING MINIMUM WAGE. YOU SHOULD ALSO PHASE IT OUT. NOT INSTANTLY INCREASE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM. THANK YOU. >> ANGLIENA FOLLOWED BY JAKE FOLLOWED BY SONYA. >> JAKE FOLLOWED BY SONYA FOLLOWED BY AUDREY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. HAPPY PRIDE. I'M A CONSTITUENT IN THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS. RAPID INFLATION AND CORRUPTION HAVE BEEN FORMS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WORKING CLASS. TELL US DON'T COMPLAIN. WORK HARDER OR DIE. MINIMUM WAGE IN NEW MEXICO COULD DELIVER ON THE PROMISE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. LIKE IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO, WOULD BE SHY OF $40 AN HOUR. INSTEAD,WE'RE FIGHTING FOR CRUMBS. WE'RE FORCED TO TAKE TIME AWAY FROM OUR DAUGHTER TO WORK MULTIPLE JOBS NOT REAPING THE BENEFITS OF OVERTIME TO KEEP FOOD ON THE TABLE. 75% OF WORKING AMERICANS LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND HALF OF OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS ARE ALREADY EMPLOYED AS WELL. WE WILL CONSTANTLY SUFFER THE HEART BREAK OF HAVING TO DENY OUR CHILDREN THE TIME AND DEDICATION THEY DESERVE FROM PARENTS WHO LOVE THEM. AND THE REASON I KEEP HAVING TO GIVE MY DAUGHTER IS I'M SO SORRY. I'VE GOT TO WORK LONGER HOURS TO PAY THE BILLS. CONSIDER AFTER YOU EXTRACTING EVERYTHING FROM US AND CREATED A POPULATION WITH NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE, WHAT THEN? WILL YOU FEEL SAFE AND HAPPY -- YOU MADE A DESPERATE POPULATION INCREASINGLY ANGRY WITH YOU THE DECISION MAKERS? TREAD CAREFULLY. >> SONYA FOLLOWED B AUDREY FOLLOWED BY TUCKER. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM THE ALBUQUERQUE TEACHER'S FEDERATION ELEMENTARY VICE PRESIDENT. I HAVE SPENT NEARLY THREE DECADES TEACHING ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALONGSIDE STUDENTS FAMILIES AND EDUCATORS. EVERY DAY WE ASK OUR CHILDREN TO COME TO SCHOOL READY TO LEARN BUT LEARNING BECOMES HARDER WHEN FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY RENT BUY GROCERIES OR AFFORD MEDICATION OR KEEP GAS IN THE CAR. THE REALITY IS MANY PARENTS AND CARE GIVERS WHO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS WITH MULTIPLE JOBS CANNOT MAKE ENDS MEET. AS EDUCATORS WE KNOW STUDENT SUCCESS IS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO FAMILY STABILITY. WHEN FAMILIES HAVE ACCESS TO FAIR WAGE AND WORKING CONDITIONS, CHILDREN COME TO SCHOOL BETTER ABLE TO FOCUS, ENGAGE AND THRIVE. STRONGER WAGES MEAN STRONGER FAMILIES, STRONGER FAMILIES MEANS STRONGER SCHOOLS. WE NEED THE WORKERS WHO MAKE ALBUQUERQUE FUNCTION INCLUDING IMMIGRANT WORKERS. THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN FAMILIES. THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE EVIDENCE IS AN INVEST IN OUR STUDENTS FAMILIES AND FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> AUDREY FOLLOWED BY TUCKER FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. TUCKER FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY TAD. JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY TAD FOLLOWED BY CAROLINE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. I WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO BASIC ECONOMICS WHEN TALKING ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND. MAINLY HOUSING. I APPRECIATE THAT THIS ORDINANCE MENTIONED HOUSING COST BECAUSE THE WAY THEY SPIKED HAS BEEN INTENSE. JUST ANALYZING WHY THAT IS, THE CITY IS 20,000 UNITS SHORT OF WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND WE HAVE AN ARTIFICIAL CONSTRAINT ON THE HOUSING SUPPLY THROUGH OUT DATED BUILDING RULES MAKING IT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. WHEN IT COMES TO SUPPLY OF HOUSING, THE IDO AMENDMENTS IN FEBRUARY COULD HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD IN HOPING TO DEAL WITH THAT. ALLOWING MORE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHICH WOULD REQUIRE NO FINANCING INVESTMENT. JUST CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE. MISSED OPPORTUNITY AFFECTS THE SITUATION. WE ARTIFICIALLY CONSTRAIN THE SUPPLY OF HOUSE, WE INCREASE THE COST AND DEMAND. SUPPORT THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY CAROLINE FOLLOWED BY DAN. >> MY NAME IS TAD. RAISING MINIMUM WAGES, THAT'S ELIMINATION OF SMALL TO MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES. AND IT IS NOT ENCOURAGEMENT RAISING MINIMUM WAGES FOR THESE PEOPLE. TO SUCCEED. NOW, LOOK AT HERE WHAT'S GOING ON. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT. HOMELESS ILLEGAL. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. THEN SENIORS. LIVING ON THE 11 -- LIVING ON SOCIAL SECURITY. 1,000. HOW YOU EXPECTED THAT? THEN PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP ON EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY FOOD AND OTHER NECESSITIES. THANK YOU. >> CAROLINE FOLLOWED BY DAN GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY EMILY ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS, FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF O-26-33 FOR MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE FROM 12 TO $15 AN HOUR. AFTER FINISHING AT UNM, I HAVE TO TAKE A FULL-TIME JOB IN SANTA FE IN ORDER TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE. AFTER TAKING A JOB OVER AN HOUR AWAY FROM WHERE I LIVE, I STILL STRUGGLE WITH AFFORDABILITY. RENTAL PRICES HAVE SKY ROCKETED DUE TO DEMAND. EVEN WITH ROOMMATES, MY RENT IS HALF OF WHAT I MAKE. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUNG UNM GRADUATES IN THE CITY, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN IT. BASED ON UNM STUDY, MINIMUM WAGE WORKER IN ALBUQUERQUE HAS TO WORK OVER 73 HOURS A WEEK IN ORDER TO AFFORD A STANDARD APARTMENT. I URGE YOU TO PASS O-26-33 AND RAISE MINIMUM WAGES HIGHER THAN $15. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> DAN FOLLOWED BY EMILY FOLLOWED BY AURORA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I DID GIVE EVERYBODY A SHEET. HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THEM. ON OUR PRICES -- WHETHER THE WAGES GET. I'LL MENTION TWO OF THEM. THE FIRST ON THE STOP, STEPHANIE JONES. SHE WORKS 40 HOURS A WEEK. SHE GETS $7.20 PLUS TIPS. SHE ENDED UP MAKING $34 AN HOUR. THAT'S FOR THE SERVER. WE GO TO THE BUSKER. -- BUSSER. I DON'T KNOW WHY I -- ON THE NEXT PAGE. JESUS CORONA. >>COUN. ROGERS: POINT OF ORDER. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN EMPLOYER BY NAME GIVING US A LIST BY NAME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE YOU GAVE THIS TO US IT'S PART OF PUBLIC RECORD. I HAVE AN HR BACKGROUND, AND I'M EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE RELEASING HIS EMPLOYEE'S INFORMATION IN A PUBLIC MEETING. SIR, DID YOU GET CONSENT FROM YOUR EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS? TO RELEASE THEIR NAMES -- >>COUN. LEWIS: PAM -- THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN'S PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: I ASKED FOR POINT OF ORDER. I HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR ROGERS HAS THE FLOOR, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. >> I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. HONESTLY, I DIDN'T ASK THE EMPLOYEES. I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS, HONESTLY. >>COUN. ROGERS: I ASK THAT YOU DON'T READ NAMES PUBLICLY. IF THEY'RE HERE, THAT'S ONE THING. PLEASE DO NOT READ THEIR NAMES. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ROGERS. MR. GARCIA, WHEN YOUR COMMENT IS OVER, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF COLLECT THESE AND WE CAN SHRED THEM. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT. I GRABBED THEM. >> WE'LL GO TO BUSER. WORKING 19 HOURS. HE MADE $137 IN TIPS. HE ENDED UP AT $16 AN OUR AVERAGE. THE BUSERS AND SERVERS -- WHAT I'M TRYING TO ENCOURAGE IS AT LEAST IF YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE THE WAGES, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT -- I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THEM IF POSSIBLE AT LEAST A DOLLAR AN HOUR A YEAR. BECAUSE OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TALK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT -- I COULDN'T FINISH THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU CAN GO AHEAD. GIVE HIM ANOTHER 30 SECONDS. >> OKAY. WE'RE JUST ASKING IF THEY CAN RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15. I GOT THAT. EVERYBODY PROBABLY DESERVES THAT. IF THEY CAN RAISE IT AT LEAST A DOLLAR AN HOUR A YEAR. OR EVEN $1.75, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET TO THE 3:50 THE SERVERS MAKE GOOD MONEY. THE WAITRESSES, IF THEY DOESN'T PASS -- ON THE LAST PAGE. ANNUAL COST -- IF THIS ALL GOES THROUGH, IT COST US $650,000 A YEAR. WE'VE ALREADY CUT DOWN HOURS FROM OUR LOCATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE CUT DOWN QUITE A BIT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF WE CAN PASS THEM OVER TO THE PRESIDENT, I WILL MAKE SURE THEY GET DISPOSED OF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY. ANY OF OUR STAFF. THIS IS IT? THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE -- NEXT SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE'RE NOW SWITCHING TO ZOOM. EMILY FOLLOWED BY AURORA. >> DO I WAIT FOR THE TIMER TO BEGIN? GREAT. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DO SUPPORT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. ALLOWING OUR CITIZENS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE TO MAKE AT LEAST $15 AN HOUR, WHICH ISN'T REALLY ENOUGH. IT STARTS TO MOVE THAT POINT. ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE BETTER PURCHASING POWER. HELPS REDUCE POVERTY LEVEL AND HELPS RAISE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL BEING. BEING ABLE TO PURCHASE INGREDIENTS, GROCERIES AND ESSENTIAL ITEMS THEY NEED FOR FAMILIES. I ALSO RECOGNIZE SOMETIMES IT CAN BE HARD FOR BUSINESS OWNERS TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION, BUT IT'S ONE THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO UPLIFT OUR COMMUNITY. AND WITH THAT -- THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> AURORA FOLLOWED BY GERALDO. >> HELLO. I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF ORDINANCE TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE OF ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. THE COST OF LIVING FEES ARE RISING AND MANY FACTORS ARE OUTSIDE THE CONTROL. THERE'S MANY THINGS TO PROVIDE RELIEF. PASSING THIS ORDINANCE IS ONE STEP CLOSER TO DOING SO WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY IN FIGHTING POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS I HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT MUCH. HIGHLIGHTING THE MINIMUM WAGE COULD LEAVE TO IMPROVEMENT OF PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH. MINIMUM WAGE INCREASES IS ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCING SUICIDE RATE, POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN DYNAMICS AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S EVIDENCE AS WELL FROM THE ANALYSIS HERE IN THE STATE'S -- RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE WILL NOT AFFECT THE NUMBER OF JOBS AVAILABLE. ALSO SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT MINIMUM WAGE CONNECTED WITH COST OF LIVING. THAT IS THE POSITION OF THE ALBUQUERQUE TEACHER'S FEDERATION THAT I REPRESENT. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> GERALDO FOLLOWED BY GINARO. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M AN ALTERNATIVE HEALTH DOCTOR AND MINISTER. PLEASE VOTE NO ON PROPOSED MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE. WHY? NO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, NO WORKERS. SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY, BUT THEY'RE STRUGGLING. 40% OF THEM CLOSED PERMANENTLY DURING THE PANDEMIC. HURTING THE VERY PEOPLE YOU WANT TO HELP. INFLATION HAS SENT THROUGH THE PRICES SOARING DRIVING UP COSTS FOR ALL CONSUMERS. WE NEED MORE SUPPORT NOT COSTLY MANDATES. HOW HOW ARE -- WHO ARE ALREADY HURTING. IT'S A SELF-DEFEATING CYCLE. NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE HAVE A HIGHER WAGE THAN OUR NEIGHBORING STATES. YET WE HAVE WORSE ECONOMIC OUTCOMES. WE CANNOT RAISE OUR WAGES TO PROSPERITY. THANK YOU AND MAY GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT. >> GENARO FOLLOWED BY THERESA. GENARO, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK YOU MUST ACCEPT PROMOTION TO PANEL. YOU'RE MUTED, GENARO. >> EVERYTHING GOOD? >> GOOD TO GO. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF OLE. AS A NEIGHBOR, I CARE ABOUT OUR FAMILIES. I CAME TO SPEAK NOT ONLY AS A NEIGHBOR, BUT AS A LABORER. I UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THE VALUE EACH OF US BRING DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I WORK WITH A VARIETY OF VOTERS, NEIGHBORS, MEN AND WOMEN, AND I FEEL PRIDE. PRIDE FOR WHAT WE DO, BUT SHAME FOR WHAT WE HAVE TO THE DURE. TRIPS CANCELED DUE TO RISING COST, DECIDES BETWEEN SPORTS OR MEDICATION. I'VE SEEN IT FROM MY HOUSEHOLD AND SIBLINGS AND PARENTS HOUSEHOLD. I'M ASKING ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS 26-33 BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE A PATH TO A DIGNIFIED WAGE, BETTER OPPORTUNITIES AND FINANCIAL SECURITY FOR ALL OF US. I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I'M ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF HARDWORKING NEW MEXICAN FAMILIES AND CONSTITUENTS THAT DESERVE A SEAT AND MEAL AT THE TABLE. JUST A REMINDER, EVEN IF WE DON'T ENACT ANYTHING, PRICES WILL CONTINUE TO RISE EVEN IF WE DON'T ENACT ANYTHING. THANK YOU. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY BRITNEY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE RISE IN MINIMUM WAGE. THE REASONS GIVEN BY A LOT OF THE SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF ME IN SUPPORT OF IT ARE ARTICULATE AND -- YOU KNOW, VERY MOVING. I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAME IN WHO ARE PAYING THEIR EMPLOYEES ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. ALL COST TO SMALL BUSINESS ARE PASSED TO CONSUMERS. WHETHER IT'S RENT, WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES, WHETHER IT'S THE COST OF SHIPPING THINGS WITH TARIFFS. AND THE HIGH COST OF OIL. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALBUQUERQUE HAS GONE THROUGH PAID SICK LEAVE, GONE THROUGH INCREASES IN MINIMUM WAGE BEFORE. AND WE ARE STILL GOING STRONG. SMALL BUSINESSES ARE STILL EMPLOYING PEOPLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE PASS THIS. >> BRITNEY FOLLOWED BY SHAUN. >> HI. I'M A LOCAL AUTHOR. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE. WE KEEP HEARING THIS ARGUMENT THAT IF WE INCREASE MINIMUM WAGE THE COST OF LIVING WILL GO UP. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT IF YOU WERE BORN LITERALLY THIS VERY EVENING AND YOU'VE NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS OF THIS ROOM. IF YOU GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT THE PRICE OF GAS AND THE PRICE OF GROCERIES AND THE COST OF RENT AND THE COST OF EVERYTHING, THE COST OF LIVING IS ALREADY GOING UP. AND HAS BEEN GOING UP SINCE -- CONSISTENTLY FOR YEARS AND YEARS. AND WAGES HAVE NOT MATCHED THOSE INCREASES. SO, THIS IS KIND OF A NO-NONSENSE MEASURE TO GIVE PEOPLE AT LEAST THE IMAGE OF A FIGHTING CHANCE IN AN INCREASINGLY UNLIVABLE WORLD. AND THIS IDEA THAT RESTAURANTS CAN'T PAY A LIVABLE WAGE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO OPERATE -- PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO EAT. I'M SORRY -- IF YOU'RE SAD ABOUT A BOWLING ALLEY NOT DOING AS WELL AS THEY COULD WHILE THERE ARE PEOPLE DYING ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR RENT -- IF THEY'RE UPSET PEOPLE KEEP HAVING OUTBURSTS IN THE CHAMBERS IT'S BECAUSE DECORUM MEANS NOTHING WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THEY'RE DESPERATE AND ALL THE AVENUES FOR RECOURSE ARE COMPROMISED. THIS IS A LOGICAL CONCLUSION OF A GAUFB RNG BODY NOT REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OUTBURSTS AND MORE PEOPLE DOING IN THE STREET. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS LIKE THIS. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR VOTERS. >> SHAUN FOLLOWED BY JIM. >> YES, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. SPECIFICALLY IN ADDITION TO RAISE IT TO $15 AN HOUR NOW. ALSO TYING IT TO THE COST OF RENT. THESE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY, WE CANNOT SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. THEY SAID IN PLACES LIKE CALIFORNIA OR SANTA FE EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE UNEMPLOYED WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. IF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS TRUE, STATES WITH LOW MINIMUM WAGE LIKE LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI WOULD BE THE RICHEST STATES IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY'RE THE POOREST. WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO BUY ANYTHING THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY. AND YEAH, REDUCING THE WAGE INCREASE IN THE FUTURE -- IF THE GOVERNMENT COULD HAVE BETTER REGULATIONS ON ALLOWING MORE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION OR BUILDING MORE PUBLIC HOUSING, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO HELP IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> JIM FOLLOWED BY DEWAL. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES COMMUNITY PROVIDERS. I SPEAK TONIGHT TO THE IMPACT THE INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE WILL HAVE ON THESE PROVIDERS. RATES ARE SET BY STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS. THESE PROVIDERS CONTRACTED WITH THE NEW MEXICO HEALTH CARE AUTHORITY CANNOT RAISE THEIR RATES TO COVER THIS INCREASE. MOST OF THESE PROVIDERS ARE ALREADY PAYING AT LEAST $15 TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT THE NECESSARY WORKFORCE. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO IS FORCE THESE PROVIDERS TO INCREASE THEIR CURRENT WAGES TO COMPETE FOR THE LIMITED WORKFORCE WITH NO OPPORTUNITY TO COVER THAT INCREASE. -- WITH DEVELOPMENTAL AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES WHEN AND I CAN MAKE $15 PERFORMING ANY ENTRY LEVEL WORK THAT IS MUCH LESS PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY DEMANDINGING. THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS MORE TIME AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. >> DEWAL FOLLOWED BY CHARLEY. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. ON BEHALF OF THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE HOTEL AND LODGING ASSOCIATION, WHO I'M REPRESENTING TONIGHT, IN THIS CURRENT FORM WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND REALLY, I'LL USE MY OWN PERSONAL EXAMPLE AS A HOTEL OWNER AND OPERATOR IN THIS TOWN. WE HAVE SEEN -- THE LAST THREE YEARS, OUR GROSS REVENUE IS FLAT. OUR INDUSTRY STANDARD IS 30% OF COST SHOULD GO TO PAYROLL. AGAIN, WE PAY 15 OR MORE AT OUR LOCATIONS. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS NUMBER, WE'RE ALREADY AT 35% LAST YEAR. OUR REVENUE FELL FLAT AND THIS INCREASE -- BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE THAT WOULD BE CAUSED BY THE LOWER WAGES GOING FROM 12 TO $15 WE GO TO $18 TO $19 AS STARTING PAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT 44%. IT WOULD GO TOWARD PAYROLL. THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE HAVE MORTGAGES, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER EXPENSES, PROPERTY TAXES, INTEREST RATES ARE SOARING. WITH ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS -- I THINK AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED. THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT BUSINESSES CAN -- ESPECIALLY BUSINESSES LIKE OURS CAN AFFORD. WE LOST MONEY LAST YEAR. THIS WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO US AS WELL. I SUPPORT INCREASING IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER ONCE STUDIES ARE THERE. WE CARE ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A MORE METHODICAL MANNER AND NOT IN A WAY THAT'S SUCH A HUGE SHOCK TO BUSINESS OWNERS WITH SUCH A ONE TIME INCREASE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS MY THOUGHTS. >> CHARLEY FOLLOWED BY ERIC. >> I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE LARGE FOOD MANUFACTURER AND NEW MEXICO HEALTH CARE ASSOCIATION, WHICH REPRESENTS ALL OF THE NURSING HOMES IN NEW MEXICO. THIS PROPOSAL IS TOO MUCH ALL AT ONCE. 25% INCREASE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY PUT ALBUQUERQUE BUSINESSES AT A DISADVANTAGE TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE STATE. AND WOULD LIKELY ACROSS THE STATE BORDERS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS INCREASE WOULD BE PASSED TO CONSUMERS. SINCE THESE TYPES OF INCREASES WOULD NOT BE HELD BY THE BUSINESS. A MANUFACTURING PLANT HAS 300 EMPLOYEES, THIS EQUATES TO $1.872 MILLION PER YEAR. NURSING HOME EMPLOYS 50-100 EMPLOYEES. MOST MAKE ABOVE THE MINIMUM WAGE. HOWEVER, THE UPWARD PRESSURE ON THE EMPLOYEES WILL ALL EXPECT A SIMILAR INCREASE IN WAGE. THIS COULD HAVE IMPLICATIONS OF $624,000. ALL THESE COSTS PRESENTED ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR. HE'S COSTS WOULD LIKELY DOUBLE WITHIN FIVE YEARS. I URGE YOU NOT TO PASS THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ERIC. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE HISPANO CHAMBER. WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF HELPING COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUCCEED. MANY SMALL AND HISPANIC OWNED BUSINESSES OPERATE WITH LIMITED MARGINS AND TO NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY OF LARGER CORPORATIONS. CERTAIN INDUSTRIES SUCH AS HOME HEALTH CARE PHASE ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF FIXED MEDICAID AND MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT AND CANNOT RAISE PRIZES TO OFFSET LABOR COSTS. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM WAGE ESCALATION FORMULA THAT TIES FUTURE INCREASES TO BOTH INFLATION AND THE HOUSING COST POTENTIALLY CREATING SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASES OVER TIME. IF ALBUQUERQUE'S MINIMUM WAGE IS $15 IN 2027, BY 2037 IT WILL BE 26.86. WE SHOULD CREATE AMENDMENTS THAT REDUCE OR DELAY. WE ASK THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT A BALANCED SOLUTION THAT SUPPORTS WORKERS WHILE HELPS THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CREATES JOBS AND INVESTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS. LET'S MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION NOT JUST A QUICK DECISION. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. IT IS 9:10 AND WE'RE ON OUR FIRST BILL THIS EVENING. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE SPONSORS. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPONSORS AND WE'LL ASK -- I KNOW YOU ALREADY OPENED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- I WANT TO ASK IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER COMMENTS. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL -- SEEING NONE. ANY COUNCILORS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE'LL GO TO THE AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE -- I HAVE A FEW AMENDMENTS. I'M GOING TO START WITH FLOOR AMENDMENT D. THAT WILL BE LABELED FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS IS BEGINNING ON PAGE 8, LINE 1, INSERT A NEW SECTION. ADDITIONAL WAGE IF CREASE FOR CERTAIN CITY EMPLOYEES. CITY EMPLOYEES EARNING $80,000 PER YEAR OR LESS IN ANY YEAR WHICH THE ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT RESULTS IN INCREASE TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE THE CITY EMPLOYEES EARNING $80,000 OR LESSON ANNUAL BASE SALARY SHALL RECEIVE INCREASE EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT APPLIED TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THIS INCREASE SHALL APPLY TO ALL ELIGIBLE CITY EMPLOYEES WHETHER THEIR COMPENSATION IS AT OR ABOVE THE MINIMUM WAGE. THE MAYOR SHALL INCLUDE WAGE INCREASES FOR THE PROPOSAL OPERATING BUDGET PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL EACH YEAR. ANY WAGE INCREASES REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON THE FIRST DAY OF FISCAL YEAR IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THE WAGE INCREASES REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION SHALL CONSTITUTE MINIMUM ADJUSTMENT AND SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO PREVENT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO HAVE HIGHER WAGE INCREASES. -- WHEN COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT IS MADE TO ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THE INCREASE IS EQUAL TO HAD SAME PERCENTAGE APPLIED TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THE MAYOR IS REQUIRED TO -- TO CITY COUNCIL EACH YEAR AM THE WAGE INCREASES WOULD TAKE EFFECT AT THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE MINIMUM WAGE ADJUSTMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, IF JANUARY 1, TO27 ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT INCREASES, ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE BY 1%, FROM $12 -- CITY EMPLOYEES EARNING $80,000 OR LESS WOULD RECEIVE THAT 1% WAGE INCREASE EFFECTIVE JULY 1. THE REASON FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK SMALL BUSINESSES TO FOLLOW THE STANDARDS WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AS WELL. I WOULD MOVE A DO PASS OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANT TO ALSO TAKE A MINUTE TO POINT OUT -- MR. -- KEEPS TALKING TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND HIM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FIRST JUST READING THIS I'M RYING -- TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW THIS INTERSECTS WITH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. A MAJORITY OF EMPLOYEES ARE -- WAGES ARE BARGAINED THROUGH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS. WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST THE WAGES IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET BASED UPON THIS AMENDMENT WHEN WE SEND DOWN A PROPOSED BUDGET ANNUALLY TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WOULD BE PROJECTED IN THAT ANNUAL CPI ADJUSTMENT. I THINK WE WOULD STILL REMAIN SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOR ALL OF THE FINAL WAGE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WOULD MAKE WITH EACH OF THOSE BARGAINING UNITS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO AMENDMENT 1. CAN WE PLEASE ADD IN THE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NOT SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE IN THE STANDARD VERBIAGE? >>COUN. PEÑA: BEFORE WE ADD THAT AMENDMENT IN, I WOULD WANT CLARIFICATION. PART OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON -- I THINK WE HAVE COUNCILORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO ELIMINATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WAGES AND COST OF LIVING. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COST OF LIVING, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A WAGE NEGOTIATION TOOL. THAT'S JUST COST OF LIVING. KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING WE SHOULD ASK SMALL BUSINESSES TO DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY. FOR THAT REASON, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I SUPPORT THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CIRCLING BACK TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT. IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT REGARDLESS OF -- HOW WOULD THAT WORK LEGALLY IF WE HAVE NEGOTIATIONS YET WE'RE STILL REQUIRING THE CITY? I SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY PRACTICE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREACH. I GET THAT PART. I JUST DON'T US TO LEGALLY FIND OURSELVES IN A BIND WITH IT. MS. COULLOUDON, WOULD COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NOT APPLY TO THIS? >> COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCEDURES WOULD APPLY TO THE INCREASES AND NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED AS REFERENCED BY THE CAO. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL SAYS. I STILL WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE. >>COUN. PEÑA: FOR CLARIFYING PURPOSES, MS. COULLOUDON, IF WE PASS THE BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT SEPARATES THE TWO, THEN IT WOULD NOT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT. IT'S A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN COST OF LIVING AND WAGE INCREASES? >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO IS ON TO SEE. I THINK WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS ANY TYPE OF WAGE INCREASE IS SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. I'M NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T FEEL QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. MS. KEEFE, BEFORE YOU ANSWER, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS WE HAVE A BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON AND WE HAVE A COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER NOW TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT. IT DIDN'T PASS THIS PAST YEAR. BUT IT DISTINGUISHED -- I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND CAREFUL THAT IT DISTINGUISHED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WAGE INCREASE AND A COST OF LIVING. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THAT WERE TO PASS, AND THIS PASSES, THEN IT ISN'T SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A COST OF LIVING. BECAUSE THEN, IN ESAS SOON AS IN ESSENCE, WE'RE ASKING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THEY SHOULD NEGOTIATE COST OF LIVING. WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO NEGOTIATE THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THE WAY THIS WORKED WITH THE AMOUNT IN THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE A MINIMUM THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED NO MATTER WHAT. AND YOU COULD BARGAIN FOR ADDITIONAL INCREASES. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BARGAINED FOR LOWER INCREASES BECAUSE WE ESTABLISHED AN ORDINANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY. I THINK WOULD BE -- I DON'T KNOW -- I GUESS THIS WOULD BE A WAGE INCREASE NOT A COST OF LIVING AM CREASE. IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT NO MATTER WHAT THE COST OF LIVING WOULD BE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, MS. KEEFE, IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE AMENDMENT AND IT JUST CONTINUES AND PASSES AS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, THEN ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE NO LEGAL ISSUE WITH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BECAUSE IT CAN STILL BE BARGAINED EVEN IF WE DON'T PUT THE TRADITIONAL LANGUAGE? IT SEEMS LIKE WE INCLUDE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO WAGES AND IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE DO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE. I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD AFFECT BARGAINING BECAUSE WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BARGAIN FOR HIGHER INCREASES WHICH GENERALLY WHAT TAKES PLACE. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. IS THE AMENDMENT PREPARED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, MR. CORNELIUS, I'M ON PAGE THREE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. I ADDED THE HIGHLIGHTED LANGUAGE AT THE END. IT READS, AN INCREASE PURSUANT IT THE SECTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCEDURES. >>COUN. PEÑA: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS -- I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND HAVE THAT AS A STAND ALONE AMENDMENT. I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN OFFER TO AMEND AN AMENDMENT. THAT'S ALLOWED IF THERE'S A SECOND. BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO AMEND AN AMENDMENT TWO TIMES. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN AS FAR AS -- THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SECOND AS FAR AS --. WE'LL JUST PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT AS IS. IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN WE STUDIED THE INCOME OF CITY EMPLOYEES DURING THE BUDGET. WONDERING WHERE WE GOT THE $80,000 PER YEAR. WHEN I CALCULATE THAT BY HOURLY, THAT'S $34 PER HOUR. I'M WONDERING WHAT THE THRESHOLD FOR $80,000 GIVEN MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE DEFINITELY NOT AT $80,000. MORE THAN $5,000 ARE UNDER THAT. I JUST WONDER WITH -- WHERE THE $80,000 CAME FROM. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. I'M OPEN TO REDUCING THAT AMOUNT. BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT -- YOU KNOW, JUST GOING THROUGH THE SALARIES AND TRYING TO ESTABLISH WHERE THAT THRESHOLD IS. IF ANYONE HAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMOUNT, I'M OPEN TO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION. AT $80,000, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN A COUNCILOR'S SALARY, WOULD BE AWESOME FOR A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES. I THINK FINANCIALLY THAT WORRIES ME -- I DON'T WANT TO PULL OUT A NUMBER WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? IT PASSES ON A 6-3. >> I HAD IT 5-4. >>COUN. PEÑA: LET'S DO IT AGAIN. >> THE NO HANDS SOME? >> >> JUST THE NOs. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT ONE PASSES. 5-4. NOW, WE ARE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT LABELED B. WHICH WILL BE NOW FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. AND THIS ONE IS THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE WITHOUT ME READING THE ENTIRE THING, I'LL READ THE EXPLANATION. THIS PROPOSES TO IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSED $3 INCREASE TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD. IN 2027, THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE INWOULD INCREASE FROM $12 TO $13. IN 2029 THE MINIMUM WAGE WOULD INCREASE FROM 14 TO $15. THE FULL THREE-DOLLAR INCREASE WOULD BE IN EFFECT AS OF 2029. IN 2030 THE ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT WOULD BEGIN. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A QUESTION. IN C, IT SAYS THE AVERAGE OF THE INCREASE OF THE FOLLOWING TWO FACTORS AND ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MULTIPLE OF FIVE CENTS, WHAT ARE THE TWO FACTORS? >>COUN. PEÑA: WHAT DID YOU READ? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: ON C, ON THE BACK PAGE, UNDERLINED, THANKSGIVINGERAGE OF THE ANNUAL INCREASE OF THE FOLLOWING TWO FACTORS. >>COUN. PEÑA: PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT MS. COULLOUDON. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE TEXT IS CUTOFF BECAUSE THAT'S THE END OF THE SECTION BEING AMENDED. BUT THE REMAINDER OF THAT SECTION, IF YOU TURN TO THE BILL ITSELF, IS ON PAGE FIVE, LINE 28. THE TWO FACTORS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO GO INTO THE ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS WOULD BE THE INCREASE IN THE CPI AND THE INCREASE IN FAIR MARKET RENT FOR A TWO BEDROOM HOUSING UNIT IN ALBUQUERQUE AS PUBLISHED BY HUD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MS. COULLOUDON. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I WILL CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? KEEP YOUR HAND UP FOR YES. OPPOSED? FAILS ON A 4-5. WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT LABELED C. THERE YOU GO. AND THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. AND IT IS -- THE EXPLANATION IS THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO STRIKE PROPOSAL TO USE TWO FACTARDS TO CALCULATE THE ANNUAL COST OF LIVING INCREASE TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THE INCREASE IN FAIR MARKET PRESENT TWO BEDROOM HOUSING UNIT IN ALBUQUERQUE PUBLISHED BY HUD WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED INSTEAD THE INCREASE IN THE CONSUMER PRICE WOULD BE THE FACTOR IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CALCULATION CONSISTENT WITH THE CALCULATION METHOD UTILIZED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ASK WHY WE'RE NOT UTILIZING OR WHAT'S THE REASON FOR NOT WANTING TO UTILIZE CPI AND HUD? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD REPEATEDLY THROUGHOUT THE EVENING FROM EVERYONE WHO CAME FORWARD, PARTICULARLY FROM OUR BUSINESS INDUSTRY LEADERS, IS WE NEED TO DO MORE STUDIES AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION. WELL, THE UNM BUREAU OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC RESEARCH, CORNELL, NORTHWESTERN AFFILIATED RESEARCH EXISTS. PARTICULARLY THE UNM'S BUREAU OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC RESEARCH CONDUCTED A STUDY JUST LAST YEAR ON THIS. IN PARTICULAR, LED BY DR. RILEY WHITE AT UNM ANDERSON. HE DEVELOPED THE CALCULATION SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW MEXICO. AND HE DID IT COMPARING SANTA FE TO OTHER CITIES WITHIN NEW MEXICO. SO, THE STUDY AND THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH DOES EXIST. IT HAS BEEN DONE. THE BEIBER RESEARCH EXISTS. IT HAS BEEN DONE. IN FACT, AN ENTIRE CALCULATION WAS DEVELOPED BY A UNM ANDERSON PROFESSOR WHO DOES THIS RESEARCH FOR A LIVING. ACTUALLY, EVEN FORMER LABOR SECRETARY ROBBER WRIGHT CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND SUPPORTED THIS WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD ENDORSEMENT I WOULD SAY. FORMER U.S. LABOR SECRETARY SUPPORTED IT. THAT'S WHY WE UTILIZED IT BECAUSE IT WAS DEVELOPED SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW MEXICO, SPECIFICALLY BY DOCTORS OF ECONOMIC POLICY FOR NEW MEXICO. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO USE THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: WAS THE QUESTION FOR SOMEONE? >>COUN. TELLES: JUST A COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE AS WELL? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUD AND THE FAIR MARKET RENT REPORT. WHAT I FOUND ON HUD IS THE FAIR MARKET RENT HELPS DETERMINE VOUCHER PAYMENT STANDARDS, INITIAL OR RENTAL RENEWAL RATE, AND RENT CEILINGS FOR RENTAL ASSIST PROGRAMS. IS THAT THE INTENT IS WE'RE LINKING IT TO ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT GIVES OUT VOUCHERS? JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT? IT'S BASED ON THE CURRENT CPI. THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT IT WAS. THIS TAKES THE RENTAL PART OF IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO WHY THE HUD LANGUAGE WAS INCLUDED IN THE BILL. WE HAVE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS. IT INCREASED THE MINIMUM WAGE IN 2014. AND IT HAS AN AUTOMATIC INDEX SO IT GROWS UP EVERY YEAR. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IT DOESN'T GO UP ENOUGH TO COVER THE ACTUAL COST OF LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE. AS LOOKING AROUND AT OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE DONE THIS, WE SAW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO KEEP MINIMUM WAGE MOVING AT THE PACE IT NEEDS TO MOVE SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY WAS AVERAGING THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX AND THE HUD FAIR MARKET RATE FOR RENT. IT'S NOT TYING IT TO ANYTHING THAT IS A VOUCHER OR ANYTHING, BUT IT IS A DOCUMENTED NUMBER THAT IS CALCULATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVERY YEAR TO TELL US HOW MUCH IT COST TO ACTUALLY RENT A PLACE TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO, BY AVERAGING THOSE TWO TOGETHER, YOU GET AER MORE ACCURATE REPARATION OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO LIVE HERE. I'LL QUICKLY SAY THAT THE CPI INCREASED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS HAS GONE FROM .66 ALL THE WAY TO 8.13 IN ONE YEAR. SIMILAR INCREASES FOR THE HUD FAIR MARKET RENT WENT FROM A NEGATIVE 6.7 IN 2017 UP TO A 14% IN 2023. IF YOU DO THAT AVERAGE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, THE ACTUAL ANSWER FOR OUR MINIMUM WAGE, HAD WE HAD THIS MECHANISM IN PLACE, WOULD HAVE SHOWN LOWER INCREASES IN OUR MINIMUM WAGE OVER FOUR OF THOSE YEARS AND SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN SIX OF THOSE YEARS. SO, THAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR INCLUDING THAT. REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET AT WHAT THE MAJOR COST OF LIVING IS IN OUR CITY AND IT IS BY FAR RENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY -- I'LL DO THIS VERY FAST. WITH REGARD TO THIS BEIBER STUDY AND THE REVIEW CONDUCTED BY UNM BUREAU OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC RESEARCH, IT WAS -- THE KEY FINDINGS HERE WERE ESSENTIALLY THAT -- APOLOGIZE. I JUST HAD IT. I CLICKED THE BUTTON. THEIR RESEARCH ANALYZED 410 FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS IN FOLLOWING MINIMUM WAGE INCREASES. FOUND THE RISE IN MINIMUM WAGE ACTUALLY HAD A POSITIVE EMPLOYMENT EFFECT ATTRIBUTED THE FINDING TO POSSIBLE EXPLANATION THAT UNOBSERVED DEMAND SHOCKS OUTWEIGHED THE NEGATIVE EMPLOYMENT EFFECT OF THE MINIMUM WAGE. AND THAT EMPLOYERS FACE DIRECT COST WHEN HIRING NEW WORKERS INCLUDING RECRUITING HIRING, ONBOARDING AND TRAINING. WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I TEACH PAYROLL ACCOUNTING AT CNM. ONE OF THE THINGS I CALCULATED BY THE PAYROLL INFORMATION PROVIDED TO ME BY OUR GREAT BUSINESS LEADERS HERE -- ONE EXAMPLE I CALCULATED WAS BASED OFF OF THIS MODEL -- FICA TAXES ARE 7.65 OF WAGES. A $3 HOUR A RAISE FOR FULL-TIME WORKER INCREASED FICA BY ONLY $318 A YEAR. WHEREAS, THE CHURN, THE ANNUAL PAY FOR LOWER WAGE JOBS WHERE THERE IS TURNOVER SUCH AS IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRIES AND SERVICE INDUSTRIES COST BETWEEN 3500 AND $5,000 A YEAR. TO RAISE IT BY $3 AN HOUR ACTUALLY SAVES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR OUR SERVICE INDUSTRY EMPLOYERS. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT PAYROLL INFORMATION. IT ACTUALLY HELPED ME CALCULATE HOW MUCH YOU WOULD BE SAVING WITH AN INCREASE. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. I WILL CLOSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT MOTION FAILS ON A -- OH, ALL THOSE OPPOSED? WHAT WAS THAT? THAT FAILS? 4-5. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE TO RECONSIDER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECONSIDER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. THAT PASSES ON A 7-2. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN WE -- FOR THE RECORD, MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY -- AND FOR THE PEOPLE HERE, CLAR BY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AGAIN. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE VOTED ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS WHAT WE'RE ON. RIGHT? WE FINISHED THAT. WE'RE PACK -- BACK ON THE BILL. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE IF THE PEOPLE HERE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO VOTE ON RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M SORRY. THERE WAS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS THE AMENDMENT THAT PROPOSES TO IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSED $3 INCREASE TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD. AND THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MS. COULLOUDON, SECTION C, N ONE. I ASKED ABOUT IT BEFORE WHEN IT SAID THE TWO FACTORS. IT WAS PASSED WE REMOVED HUD AS ONE OF THE FACTS. DOES THIS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO SAY ONE FACTOR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, AMENDMENTS BUILD UPON EACH OTHER. SO THE PRIOR APPROVED AMENDMENT WOULD STILL IN EFFECT AND THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU'RE RECONSIDERING NOW WOULD ONLY AFFECT THE RED TEXT AS HIGHLIGHTED ON YOUR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE ON THIS. THIS IS -- RECONSIDERED AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. THAT MOTION PASSES ON AN 8-1. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE TO RECONSIDER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE -- I APOLOGIZE. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE IS -- A MOTION TO RECONSIDER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THIS AMENDMENT IS SUPPOSED TO STRIKE PROPOSAL TO USE TWO FACTORS TO CALCULATE ANNUAL COST OF LIVING INCREASES TO THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THE INCREASE IN FAIR MARKET RENT FOR TWO BEDROOM HOUSING IN ALBUQUERQUE PUBLISHED BY HUD WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED, INSTEAD THE INCREASE IN CONSUMER PRICE INDEX WOULD BE THE ONLY FACTOR CONSIDERED IN THE CALCULATION CONSISTENT WITH THE CALCULATION METHOD UTILIZED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? FOR RECONSIDERATION. WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES ON AN 8-1. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA FOR APPROVAL OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ARE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. I DON'T KNOW -- CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WERE A NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DID YOU GET THAT? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU WERE IN FAVOR? >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE AMENDMENT. AND I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THAT. COUNCILOR GROUT HAS AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO OFFER FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. RACHEL WILL PASS IT OUT. ON PAGE FOUR LINE 21, AMEND 13-12-3 MINIMUM WAGE AS FOLLOWS. JANUARY 11, 2027. EACH YEAR THEREAFTER SHALL BE 40% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. THIS AMENDMENT CHANGES THE AMOUNT OF THE TIP MINIMUM WAGE FROM 60% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE TO 40% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST TO JUMP IN BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGE TO THE TITLE OF THE BILL. A CHANGE WILL BE TIPPED MINIMUM WAGE REDUCTION IS NOT REFLECTED IN THE TITLE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE BILL. SO, I RECOMMEND ADDING THAT INTO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: TITLE CHANGE REQUIRE A DEFERRAL? >>COUN. PEÑA: A DEFERRAL. COUNCILOR GROUT, WOULD YOU CONSIDER JUST PUTTING THIS AMENDMENT IN AT A LATER TIME FOR THE ORDINANCE SO WE CAN GET THIS? >>COUN. GROUT: SURE. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. SHE'S GOING TO WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT. AND LOOK AT BRINGING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR DEFERRAL UNLESS THIS AMENDMENT PASSES. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. GROUT: YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T WANT TO WITHDRAW IT. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT PASSED. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: I'D LIKE TO MOVE A SECONDARY AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. TO CHANGE FROM 40% TO 55%. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS, TO CHANGE THE MOTION FROM 40 TO 55%. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D SAY I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. THIS ACTUALLY GETS PEOPLE LESS MONEY THAN THEY WOULD BE MAKING TODAY. THAT IS NOT THE THE TENT OF THIS BILL. I WOULD BE OPEN TO ANOTHER NUMBER THAT IS LESS THAN THE CURRENT, BUT CERTAINLY DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BODY SHOULD BE REDUCING ANYONE'S PAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR GROUT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS DOES NOT REDUCE -- DOES IT? >>COUN. GROUT: MS. COULLOUDON, IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES BEFORE US, WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT TIPPED WAGES RIGHT NOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF DOES NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE TIPPED MINIMUM WAGE CALCULATION. IT WOULD REMAIN CALCULATED AT 60% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW THIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: DO WE NEED A VOTE TO WITHDRAW? THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCILOR GROUT TO WITHDRAW. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY -- FOR WITHDRAW. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. >>COUN. GROUT: NOW I'M GOING TO OFFER IT AGAIN. >>COUN. PEÑA: WAIT A SECOND. LET ME SLOW DOWN. LET ME SLOW DOWN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE WITHDRAW RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT WAS AN 8-1? OKAY. THAT WAS WITHDRAWN. OKAY. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO OFFER FLOOR AMENDMENT FIV. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHANGE IT TO 50%. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. SDMRP. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CHANGE THE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE THAT WAS WITHDRAWN AND REINTRODUCING THE SAME AMENDMENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF 50%. INSTEAD OF THE 60. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE TITLE. WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THIS AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE TITLE BECAUSE IT'S CHANGING THE TIP WAGES AND THAT WASN'T IN THE CURRENT TITLE. IF IT DOES PASS WE'LL HAVE TO PUBLISH THE BILL. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT TODAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT REDUCTION IN THIS PERCENTAGE STILL CHANGES THE WAGE AND THAT IS COVERED IN THE TITLE AS IS. SO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IN FACT, THE TITLE RIGHT NOW SAYS TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE AND THIS DOES STILL INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE RATE. SO IT JUST CHANGES THE CALCULATION. THEREFORE, IT SHOULD BE FINE UNDER HAD -- THE CURRENT TITLE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WHILE THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REDUCE THE PERCENTAGE CALCULATION OF TIPPED MINIMUM WAGE, IT WOULD HAVE THE FUNCTIONAL EFFECT OF RAISING THE RATE FOR TIPPED MINIMUM WAGE. SO, THAT COULD BE CAPTURED WITHIN THE CURRENT TITLE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S STILL A RAISE, JUST A VERY SMALL ONE. WHICH IS WITHIN THE TITLE. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY THANK COUNCILOR GROUT FOR WORKING TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT VOTE WAS 8-1? >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. JUST FOR DECORUM AND COUNCIL CLARITY, IF WE CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND KEEP YOUR HAND UP. STAFF IS HAVING -- THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ASKED ME TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. WHEN I ASK IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES AND PAUSE AND THEN FOR NO SAME ACTION. WITH THAT, WE ARE BACK ON THE BILL. BEFORE WE GO TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN WILL DO OUR OFFICIAL CLOSE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD COMMENTS. SURPRISINGLY I HAD TIME TO COCHSOME WATCH SOME NETFLIX THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. THERE WAS A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT. IT RANDOMLY CAME UP ON MY THING AND I WATCHED IT. WHAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE. AND IT WAS PASSED 1938 UNDER FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. IT WAS SO INTERESTING TO HEAR THE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE. IT'S THE SAME OPPOSITION COMMENTS IN 1938. I'LL READ SOME OF THEM I READ. IN 1938 THEY WERE RECOVERING FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION. I SUBMIT WE ARE IN A DEPRESSION RIGHT NOW. LOW EMPLOYMENT RATES BUT HIGH COST PRESSURES IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW. 1938 THE CONCERN WAS WAGES WERE FALLING TOO LOW. HERE, 2026 CONCERNS ARE WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING UP PACE WITH COST. 1938 HOUSING WAS RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE COMPARED TO INCOME. RIGHT NOW HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IS NEAR HISTORIC LOWS. CHILD LABOR AND CONCERNS WERE BIG. THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE IN 1938 AFTER IT WAS PASSED WAS ADJUSTED REGULARLY IN SUBSEQUENT DECADES. THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE HAS REMAINED $7.25 SINCE 2009. IT THE LONGEST PERIOD WITHOUT AN AN INCREASE. IT CAUSED ME TO SEE HOW DID FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT IN 1938 RESPOND TO CONCERNS HE HEARD THEN. IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. THE DOCUMENTARY WE HEARD FROM BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE WE DID TONIGHT THAT SAID IT WOULD COST JOBS. AND THAT EMPLOYERS WOULD BE FACED TO PAY MORE AND HIRE FEWER WORKERS. THAT REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON ARGUMENTS IN 1938 AND EVEN TODAY. WHEN I ASKED WHAT DID WE FIND IN 1938, DID THE SKY FALL DOWN? NO. ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT WAS QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THERE WERE BUSINESSES THAT WERE THRIVING. UNEMPLOYMENT DRASTICALLY DECLINED. AND EMPLOYERS SAID THEY WERE ABLE TO PAY HIGHER SKILLED WORKERS WHICH HELPED THEIR ACTUAL REVENUES AND PROFITS. SO, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE SKY IS NOT GOING TO FALL IF WE DO IT AGAIN HERE. WE'RE FACING THE SAME TYPE OF ECONOMIC CRISIS THAT WE WERE IN 1938 BUT WITH -- WHICH IS WHY WE TIED IT TO HOUSING. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND US THAT THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS NOT PITTING WORKERS AGAINST OWNERS. THE QUESTION FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT ASKED IN 1938 IS THE SAME QUESTION TODAY. THIS IS ABOUT FAIRNESS. THIS IS ABOUT A LIVING WAGE. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF WHY THIS COUNTRY BEGAN MINIMUM WAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE GIVEN A LIVING WAGE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LABOR COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. I DO WANT TO SAY I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME AND SPOKE EITHER IN SUPPORT OF AGAINST THE BILL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ALSO WANT TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAME TODAY. I'M A BUSINESS OWNERER. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. AND I APPRECIATE -- YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT YOUR MARGINS. THAT'S YOUR JOB. THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THAT. I AM -- IN MY ROLL HERE, I AM NOT A BUSINESS OWNER. I AM A POLICY MAKER. SO MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THE CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW THE BROADER ECONOMY TO FUNCTION. I AM NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON AN INDUSTRY OR ONE CATEGORY OF PEOPLE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE COMMON GOOD AND WE HAD THIS GREAT CONVERSATION EARIER ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD AND THE GREATER GOOD. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY AND THE COMMON GOOD. WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT BUSINESSES AND POLICY MAKERS VERY RARELY DISCUSS IN THE CONTEXT OF WAGES, AND THAT IS OCCUPATIONAL FRAUD. INTERNAL FRAUD. IT IS INTERNAL FRAUD. THE FACT THAT SMALL BUSINESSES LOSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO INTERNAL FINANCIAL MISCONDUCT AND ONE THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS WHEN YOU RAISE A WAGE ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS -- WHEN YOU RAISE A MINIMUM WAGE, IT'S NOT JUST LABOR POLICY BUT IT IS INTERNAL FRAUD MITIGATION STRATEGY. IT IS -- IN NEW MEXICO IT'S NOT THEORETICAL. I DO THIS RESEARCH EVERY DAY. FRAUD RISK IS NOT LIMITED TO OUTSIDE SCAMMERS. IT INCLUDES INSIDERS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FRAUD RISKS IN TERMS OF WAGES, THERE'S A THING CALLED -- THIS IS GETTING TECHNICAL. IT'S THE FRAUD TRIANGLE. THERE'S FRAUD GOING TO HAPPEN INTERNALLY AT YOUR BUSINESS. THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PRESENT. PRESSURE, RATIONALIZATION AND OPPORTUNITY. WHEN WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN A WORKING ENVIRONMENT, RAISING WAGES, BETTER PAID EMPLOYEES ARE MORE LIKELY TO STAY UNDERSTAND PROCEDURES AND PROTECT JOBS AND REPORT MISCONDUCT, LOWER TURNOVER REDUCES ONBOARDING CHURN. THAT WEAKENS SEGREGATION OF DUTIES AND MAKES SUPERVISION HARDER. WHAT RAISING A MINIMUM WAGE DOES IS IT -- LOW WAGES INCREASE FINANCIAL STRESS HIGHER WAGES TAKE THAT STRESS AWAY. ALL OF THE PRESSURES -- ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITY AND ALL OF THE RATIONALIZATION CONDITION THAT MAKE INSIDER FRAUD THREAT MORE LIKELY ARE REMOVED. AND THIS ACTUALLY REALLY PROTECTS SMALL BUSINESSES FROM -- OH, I DON'T GET PAID THAT MUCH ANYWAY SO I'LL GIVE MY FRIEND A FREE BURGER. I DON'T GET PAID THAT MUCH ANYWAY I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A RE LONG TIME. I'M JUST GOING TO CLOCK IN MY FRIEND INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THEM TO GET HERE. THEY'RE RUNNING LATE. THESE ARE NOT ABSTRACT IDEAS. THESE ARE REAL. YOU CAN -- I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE DATA. I PROMISE, IN FRAUD RISK TERMS, THEY ARE PRACTICAL INVESTMENTS IN LOSS PREVENTION. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS. ASIDE FROM THE MILLION OERTZ. IT'S JUST GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. IT'S ALSO A SAFE RISK MITIGATION POLICY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. AND IT HELPS REDUCE THE RISK OF EMPLOYEE THEFT AND EMBEZZLEMENT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TELLES. I HAD ASKED FOR -- TO CLOSE. I THINK A COUPLE OF COUNCILORS SAID I MISSED TO CLOSE. BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN THEY'LL EITHER TAKE A PERSONAL PRIVILEGE OR I'LL ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. YOU'RE GOOD? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW WE'RE CLOSING ON THIS BILL. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE IN A MINUTE. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS A 25% RAISE. THIS IS A 25% INCREASE TO THE MINIMUM WAGE. IT'S OVER THREE YEARS. AND THE FACT IS THIS WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON JOB CREATION IN THE CITY. IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE ECONOMY. IF YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN WE WOULD VOTE FOR A $50 INCREASE TO THE MINIMUM WAGE. BUT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON A $50 INCREASE BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY KILL THIS ECONOMY. IF A $3 INCREASE TO THE MINIMUM WAGE RIGHT NOW OR THE NEXT FEW YEARS HAS NO HARM THAN A $50 INCREASE WOULD HAVE NO HARM. BUT WE KNOW IT WILL HAVE SOME HARM. WE KNOW IT WILL HURT THIS ECONOMY. AND WE HAVE A CITY -- WE HAVE NEGATIVE JOB GROWTH. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE LEAVING THIS CITY THAN ARE COMING IN. WE DON'T HAVE INVESTMENT COMING IN TO THE CITY WHICH IS WHAT CREATES JOBS. WE DON'T LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY BY MANDATING MORE COST ON TO THE JOB CREATORS. THIS IS JUST NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, THIS AGENDA TONIGHT IS FILLED WITH -- MIGHT AS WELL BE A MAKE ALBUQUERQUE NON-AFFORDABLE. THAT IS THE POLICY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S NOTHING BUT MAKING EVERYTHING IN THIS CITY MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE. FROM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IN A LITTLE BIT, INCREASE TO THE STORM WATER, AM -- INCREASES TO SOLID WASTE. BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE A REALLY TERRIBLE CITY TO DO BUSINESS IN. YOU ACCEPT LITTLE COMPROMISES OVER AND OVER THAT YOU KNOW ARE GOING TO HURT THIS ECONOMY, BUT IT FEELS GOOD, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES ON THIS. THE AMENDMENTS PASSED TONIGHT, NO STUDY. EVEN RELATING IT TO THE CITY WORKERS. WE JUST GAVE THEM A MASSIVE RAISE. I SUPPORTED THAT. NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO OUR BUDGET. WE HAVE FORECASTED DEFICITS IN OUR BUDGET. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING WE'RE DOING ON THIS AGENDA THIS ENTIRE NIGHT THAT'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO CREATE AFFORDABILITY IN THIS CITY. THIS CITY GOVERNMENT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN EVER. JUST TAKING MORE AND MORE AND MORE OF PEOPLE'S MONEY RIGHT OUT OF THEIR POCKETS AND PUTTING IT RIGHT INTO CITY COFFERS. AND MAKING THE BUSINESSES THAT CREATE THESE JOBS -- JUST STICKING IT TO THEM. YOU KNOW, WE MADE SOME AMENDMENTS THEY MAY NOT CUT THEIR HEADS OFF, BUT IT'S GOING TO CUT BOTH ARMS OFF TONIGHT. IT'S GOING TO HURT OR ECONOMY. WE DON'T LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY BY DOING THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADMENT PRESIDENT. I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY TOO. I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY EMPLOYEES ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THEY ARE PAID MORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE. THEY ARE SKILLED AND THEY HAVE EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE PAID VERY WELL. IF I WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT HAS NO TRAINING AND I WANT TO TEACH THEM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE EXTRA TIME. AND TO START THEM OFF AT A HIGHER WAGE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE SKILLS, THEY NEED TO HAVE -- HATES NOT THE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SMALLER WAGE. YOU DPAN -- GAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING AND YOU HAVE UPWARD MOBILITY. IT WILL MAKE ME PAUSE A BIT BEFORE I CONSIDER SOMEBODY THAT HAS NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL BECAUSE IT WILL PUT A STRAIN ON ME. AND OUR BUSINESS. THERE IS A PLACE FOR ENTRY LEVEL WORK. KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL. KIDS THAT ARE WORKING PART-TIME. NOW, STARTING AT $15 AN HOUR FOR PART-TIME JOB IS GOING TO BE HARDER ON THOSE EMPLOYERS. AND THESE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING WAGES. I REALLY THINK THE BODY'S FOCUS ON THE AMOUNT OF MINIMUM WE'VE LOST SIGHT OF THE PURPOSE OF ENTRY LEVEL JOBS. WE WANT TO LIFT YOU UP. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO STAY AT $15 AN HOUR. I WANT YOU TO GO TO $18 AND $21 BUT YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND GAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE. IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT ON SMALL BUSINESSES. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT I DIDN'T USED TO HAVE BUT I HAVE NOW. I'M ALWAYS HAVING TO REPLACE WINDOWS THAT ARE BROKEN OUT. CALLING MY INSURANCE COMPANY WILL CAUSE MY INSURANCE RATES TO GO UP. THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT I HAVE THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO INCUR THAT I DO NOW, QUITE OFTEN. AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. I KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. I THINK -- A MINIMUM WAGE IS JUST THAT. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO FEED YOUR WHOLE FAMILY. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK YOUR WAY UP. I WANT INCREASING THE -- INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE DOESN'T ALWAYS LIFT PEOPLE UP, BUT IT ACTUALLY KEEPS THEM DOWN. NOW, EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR OTHER WAGES. AND WE ARE WORKING ON VERY, VERY -- SMALL BUSINESSES ARE NOT GETTING RICH OFF OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. WE'RE MAKING IT DAY BY DAY. AND EVERY MONTH I WONDER HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO CLEAR. AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS HAD SAME. I'M VOTING NO ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO RAISE THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR WORKERS NOT LOWER IT. WE NEED BETTER JOBS. NOT BUSINESS KILLING REGULATIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SIMPLE MATH. FIVE EMPLOYEES AT $12 AN HOUR, 40 HOURS A WEEK, WORKS OUT TO $2400 A WEEK IN COST. THE SAME FIVE AT $15 IS NOW $3 $3$,000. THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF$600 FOR ONE EMPLOYEE. INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO HIRE A SIXTH EMPLOYEE, YOU'RE ONLY AT FIVE. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUSINESSES CAN USUALLY ABSORB CERTAIN COSTS. ONE AT A TIME. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU ADD SEVERAL OF THESE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- WE HEARD IT TONIGHT. THE COST OF GAS, THE COST OF SUPPLIES, THE COST OF ELECTRICITY. I TALKED TO A GUY TODAY, HE'S A DRY CLEANER, THE COST OF HANGERS ARE GOING UP. ALL OF THESE ARE GOING UP AND NOW WE'RE ADDING THIS. YOU HEARD TESTIMONY FROM THE PEOPLE HERE STATING THAT THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING THEIR PEOPLE ABOVE THE $12 AN HOUR. THEY'RE BEING ABLE TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERMS, MANIPULATE THEIR -- THERE'S A REASON IT'S CALLED MINIMUM WAGE. IT'S THE BASE ENTRY LEVEL. HERE'S THE JOB, HERE'S TO START OFF WITH. HERE'S YOUR PROBATION PERIOD. WE LOOK AT HOW YOUR PROBATION IS, TALENT IS, AND WE ADJUST YOUR WAGE BASED OFF OF THAT. WE HEARD IT AGAIN TONIGHT AND THE MATH ISN'T MATHING. IF WE RAISE 12 TO 15 THEN THE 14 HAS TO GO TO 17 AND THE 15 HAS TO GO TO 20. SO ON AND SO FORTH. I CAN SAY IT BECAUSE HE POSTED IT, YOU HEARD IT FROM THE MAYOR ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST. THIS IS VERY MINIMAL. THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE A HAMBURGER BY 3 CENTS. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. BUT IT IS WHEN YOU ADD ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE TALK ABOUT AND YOU HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE MORE ON TOP OF IT. FOR A BUSINESS, I WAS IN SAM'S CLUB, AND I ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE WASHER. THE FLOOR WASHER. AND I TURNED AROUND AND APOLOGIZED AND I REALIZED IT WASN'T A PERSON. IT WAS A ROBOT. IT WAS A ROBOT WITH A CENSOR THAT IS SWEEPING AND MOPPING THE FLOORS THAT TWO YEARS AGO WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERSON. SO, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BIGGER BUSINESSES, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO AUTOMATE. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SELF-CHECKOUT LINES. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A SMALL BUSINESS THEY EMPLOY FOUR PEOPLE INSTEAD OF FIVE BECAUSE ON TOP OF THE COST OF FOOD AND INSURANCE AND WAGES AND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE GOING TO ADD ALL THOSE UP AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR. 24,000 PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE CITY. IT DECREASED. WE SEE THE CITING ON THE WALL THAT THIS WILL PASS TONIGHT. I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. BUT WATCH AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I HOPE I'M WRONG. I REALLY DO. I HOPE I'M WRONG AND IT DOES THRIVE. IN 1938, AND TWO YEARS LATER WE HAD A WAR WHICH PROBABLY HELPED THE ECONOMY THEN. I APOLOGIZE THAT I DIRECTED THAT. I HOPE I AM WRONG. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S ALWAYS REASONS NOT TO CHANGE ANYTHING. I HEARD THE SAME ARGUMENT FOR AND AGAINST THIS ISSUE MY WHOLE LIFE. THE ONLY THING I'VE SEEN IS INCREASED COST OF LIFE. AND WHAT WE DO KNOW THE CURRENT ECONOMY IS BAD FOR ALL OF US. WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS OR MINIMUM WAGE WORKER OR ANYONE ELSE. I WISH I COULD LOWER THE PRICE OF GAS RIGHT NOW. I WISH I COULD CHANGE THE NATIONAL POLICIES CAUSING ALL THE INCREASED COST. MAYBE WE'LL GET OUR TARIFFS BACKS. I DOUBT THAT. WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE A REASONABLE INCREASE TO MINIMUM WAGE THAT HELPS THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY WORK ON OTHER POLICIES THAT WILL HELP OUR BUSINESS. IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR IN THIS CASE. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD JUST SAY, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT ON BOTH SIDES. I WILL REMIND US ALL THAT MINIMUM WAGE IS LITERALLY THE FLOOR. IT IS THE LEAST YOU CAN PAY SOMEBODY. AND IT COSTS A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE NOT COVERING THOSE COSTS WITH OUR MINIMUM WAGE NOW. AND WHEN I STARTED WORKING, A VERY LONG TIME AGO, MINIMUM WAGE WAS $3.35 AN HOUR. I WORKED A FULL-TIME JOB ON $3.35 AN HOUR. AND I MADE 580 BUCKS A MONTH. AND I WAS ABLE TO AFFORD MY RENT BECAUSE MY RENT WAS $75 A MONTH. AND I COULD AFFORD GROCERIES BECAUSE I SPENT $20 A MONTH ON GROCERIES. THAT IS NO LONGER WHAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CANNOT MAKE THEIR WAY ON $12 AN HOUR. NOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG. IT'S NOT LIKE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR WAY ON 13 AND 14 AND IS A. THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH BECAUSE WE HAVE TONS OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH. WE HAVE DECADES OF PEER-REVIEWED EVIDENCE FROM CITIES AND STATES THAT ALREADY RAISED WAGE FLOORS AND THAT DATA TELLS THE SAME STORY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. INCREASES IN MINIMUM WAGE FAIL TO RESULT IN BUSINESS LOSSES. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. EVERYONE LIKES THE KNEE JERK REACTION, BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY TO MAKE CHOICES OF CHOOSING FOOD OR GROCERIES OR RENT. AND THEY MIGHT -- MAYBE, HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SPEND A TAD BIT EVERY MONTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AT SMALL BUSINESSES WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING. LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COST OF LABOR. RIGHT NOW, THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE IS IT COSTS CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR YOU TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT MONEY FROM YOUR EMPLOYER, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT FROM TAXPAYERS. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIVING FULL-TIME JOBS WORKING FULL-TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY ON $12 AN HOUR ARE COSTING ALL OF US -- WE HAVE TO PROVIDE MEAL PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD MEALS. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HOUSING VOUCHERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAY HOUSED. THEY'RE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO SOMETHING WITH KIDS WHILE IT'S SUMMER AND THERE'S NO SCHOOL. AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. THOSE BASE COSTS OF THAT LABOR ARE BEING BORNE BY EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALL I'M SAYING WITH THIS VERY MINIMAL INCREASE IN WAGES IS THOSE COSTS SHOULD BE BORNE BY THE COMPANY THAT'S MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF THAT LABOR. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE ARE BACK ON O-33 AS AMENDED FOUR TIMES. WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON A 5-4. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDEN -- >>COUN. PEÑA: OH, LORD. VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'D LIKE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THIS MEETING TO MIDNIGHT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND TO SUSPEND THE RULES UNTIL MIDNIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT WAS ON A 6-3. WE'RE NOW ON O-24. THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR TELLES, COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. RENTAL UNIT HABABILITY ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS OF O-24. CAN YOU PLEASE EXIT THE CHAMBERS QUIETLY? THANK YOU SO MUCH. O-24, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. DID YOU MOVE DO PASS? IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENTS A THROUGH C. AND WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK WE'LL PUT THIS UP ON THE SCREEN. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT VERSION. I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE THING. THIS IS CHANGING WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE BILL AS EVERY 24 HOURS TO BECOME -- OR TO PUT IN YOUR PLAN FOR BECOMING COMPLIANT. WE'RE CHANGING 24 TO 72. HOURS. I'LL MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A -- THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES FOR DO PASS OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM ANY OF THE COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HEARD SOME CONCERNS THAT 24-HOURS WAS NOT ENOUGH TO GET YOUR PLAN TOGETHER AND SUBMIT IT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ALLOWING 72 HOURS INSTEAD. WHICH SEEMED LIKE A GREAT MIDDLE GROUND. >>COUN. PEÑA: WITH THAT -- THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I DON'T KNOW -- COUNCILORS -- I SAID A WHILE TO CLOSE. YOU GUYS DIDN'T HEAR ME. COUNCILOR ROGERS HEARD ME. OKAY. I'M GOING TO PROCEED IF WE'RE NOT -- OKAY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES. 8-0. OKAY. THAT'S FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. NOW WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT LABELED B IN YOUR PACKET. IT WILL BECOME FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS ON -- CAN WE DO THE OTHER ONE? ON PAGE TWO, LINE 23, THERE WE GO. INSERT A NEW SECTION. AND THIS IS -- THE NEW SECTION SAYS OBLIGATION OF OCCUPANT OF RENTAL PROPERTY. THE OCCUPANT OF RENTAL PROPERTY SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE TO RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY PRIOR TO NOTIFYING THE CITY OF THE VIOLATIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS, FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HEARD A CONCERN AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT THAT WE ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO OUR LANDLORDS BEFORE WE REPORT SOMETHING WRONG. AND WHILE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL BASED ON ASKS BY THE COMMUNITY, WE WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IF SOMETHING BREAKS, YOU HAVE TO LET THE LANDLORD KNOW THAT THING HAS BEEN BROKEN AND THEY SHOULD FIX IT. THIS IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT FOR EVERYONE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSE, NO. MOTION PASSES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL I'M SKIPPING AROUND. PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION, I'M JUST GOING WITH IT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT IS ACTUALLY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. WITH I WITHDREW MINE. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE HAS HIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S IN THE iPADS. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU PUT IT UP? I DON'T HAVE IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. MADAM PRESIDENT, ON PAGE FIVE, LINE SIX, AMEND 1428-9, SUBSECTION TWO. STRIKING FAILURE OF ANY SEARCH PERSON SHALL NOT AFFECT VALIDITY OF PROCEEDINGS UNDER THIS SECTION. REPLACING SERVICE BY CERTIFIED MAIL IN THE MANNER HEREIN PROVIDED SHALL BE EFFECTIVE ON THE EARLIER OF TWO THINGS. ONE, THE DATE OF THE CERTIFIED MAIL RECEIVED OR SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE FIRST ATTEMPT IS DELIVERED. THE INTENT OF THIS -- SPEAKING WITH THE COUNCILOR -- THE SPONSOR, FINDING A MIDDLE GROUND ON A REASONABLE DEAL WHERE IT WAS WRITTEN. NOT TO SAY WE DON'T AFFECT THE PAD PLAYERS OF THIS, BUT IF SOMEBODY ON GOOD STANDING DOESN'T RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED MAIL, IT WILL BE -- FOR WHATEVER REASON -- I LOOKED IT UP AND THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE SAYS, IF THEY DON'T GET ANYBODY IN THE FIRST ONE THEY GET 15 DAYS TO PICK IT UP. THIS ALLOWS SEVEN DAYS TO PICK IT UP AND FIX THE ISSUE AND BE ALERTED OF THE ISSUE INSTEAD OF BEING FINED THE $500. WE'RE GIVING THE GOOD PLAYERS LEEWAY TO PICK UP THE CERTIFIED MAIL IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN ALREADY SAID. IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY. THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OR THE COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED THREE TIMES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OR THE COUNCILORS? I THINK WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR CHAMPINE MAY HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT ON ONE DRIVE. >>COUN. PEÑA: HE'S SAYING NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: APPARENTLY, I DO. OH, I DO. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: ON PAGE FOUR, LINE FOUR AMEND THE FOLLOWING. WE'RE GOING TO PLACE IN THERE -- THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FAILSES TO RELOCATE THE TENANT WITHIN 7 DAYS THE CITY SHALL READMINISTER THE RELOCATION AND COST SHOULD ME PAID IN FULL. WE'RE ADDING IN IT SAYS A LIEN COULD BE PLACED IF THEY DON'T PAY BACK THE CITY TO MOVE THE PEOPLE. WE WANTED TO PLACE THE LIEN UPON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND PUT IN THERE THAT REMOVING FIRST AND ALSO SECOND THE MAY BE SUBSEQUENTLY PLACED ON THE ASSET. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS SAYING THAT THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE IT WAS IT LEFT IT UP TO CHOICE THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT A LIEN OR THE CITY WANTED TO PUT A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY OR THEY COULD CHOOSE ANOTHER PROPERTY OF THAT OWNER, GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS AND SUCH WHEN A CONTRACTOR DOESN'T GET PAID, THEY PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY DID THE WORK. THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF IDEA THAT THE LIEN IS FIRST PUT ON A PROPERTY THAT THE OWNER IS NOT ADHERING TO THIS 30-DAY AND PAYING FOR RELOCATION DEAL. WE JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE TARGET PROPERTY OF THE LOCATION WOULD BE THE FIRST LOCATION FOR A LIEN. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN IF THIS WERE TO PASS THAT IT STILL MEANS THAT A PROPERTY MANAGER OR SOMEBODY OTHER THAN PROPERTY OWNER COULD ACTUALLY BE SUBJECT TO THE LIEN BEING THAT IT STILL SAYS A LIEN MAY BE PLACED ON ANY ASSET OWNED BY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S RESPONSIBLE PARTY? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, YES. THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY INHERENTLY BRINGS IN ANYONE WHO CAN HAVE BLAME FOR THE VIOLATION. IN THIS WAY, YES. YOU MAY GO AFTER THEIR ASSETS AS WELL. >>COUN. BASSAN: HEARING THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE COULD BE A PROPERTY MANAGER THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE THE ONE TO BLAME FOR NOT REPAIRING SOMETHING OR NOT DOING SOMETHING IN ORDER TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION, YET NOW THEY COULD LOSE THEIR ASSETS PERSONALLY. I DON'T SUPPORT THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. MR. COX, CAN YOU CLARIFY SOMETHING, OR MAYBE MS. COULLOUDON, WHEN YOU GO UNDER CONTRACT WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, AS AN OWNER YOU SIGN CONTRACT WITH PROPERTY MANAGER AND THERE'S DISCLOSURE WAIVING THOSE RIGHTS. SO A CONTRACT WITH IT THE PROPERTY MANAGER WOULD SUPERSEDE THIS SAYING THEY WAIVED -- THERE'S NO LIABILITY ON THEM, PER SE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THAT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT IS ADDRESSED IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. HOWEVER, THAT WOULD NOT PREVENT THE CITY FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH PLACING A LIEN ON THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY'S PROPERTY. ONE EDIT THAT COULD BE MADE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN MADE BY COUNCILOR BASSAN WOULD BE TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE IN SUBSECTION B IN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO OWNED BY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S OWNER INSTEAD OF RESPONSIBLE PARTY THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE SUBSECTION D BELOW. MIRROR THAT WORDING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM OKAY WITH PUTTING THAT CLARIFICATION IN THERE TO MAKE SURE. DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND HAD AMENDMENT TO ADD IN THE SUBJECT OWNER. THE LOCATION OR -- I GUESS THE LOCATION OWNER. THE LISTED ADDRESS OWNER. OR PROPERTY OWNER. >> YES, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SECONDED. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, I WANT TO ASK STAFF REAL QUICK. IF YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR OWN AMENDMENT KAEGS SINCE WE ALREADY MADE NEVER MIND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. EITHER MR. KAISER OR DIRECTOR VARELA. I HAVE A PRACTICAL QUESTION ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY. BECAUSE WHILE HE'S WALKING DOWN -- I WON'T NAME THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN MY DISTRICT, TO BE FAIR. WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW THAT BECAUSE OF REPAIRS, THEY HAVE 16 HOUSEHOLDS MOVED TO A HOTEL. IT'S BEEN OVER 30 DAYS NOW. MY QUESTION FOR MR. VARELA IS UNDER THIS -- FOR THE TENANTS THAT ARE DISPLACED, IF THEY'RE NOT BACK IN THEIR UNIT IN 30 DAYS OR IF THEY CAN BE OUT OF THE APARTMENT LONGER THAN 30 DAYS AS LONG AS THE LANDLORD OR TENANT IS PAYING FOR THE NEW HOUSING? IS THAT CORRECT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS. I HAVE A REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE 16 FAMILIES DISPLACED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, IT'S SAYING THE CITY SHALL ADMINISTER THE RELOCATION IF THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY DOESN'T DO THAT, THE RELOCATION COST SHALL BE PAID IN FULL BY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO THE CITY WITHIN 30 DAYS. IF IT'S NOT PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS THAT'S WHEN HAD LIEN WOULD BE PLACED. >>COUN. ROGERS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M ASKING THE DEPARTMENT IS IT ONLY 30 DAYS. ARE THEY ALLOWED TO BE OUT OF THE UNITS LONGER THAN 30 DAYS? ARE WE GIVING THEM A TIME LIMIT THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO IT'S JUST THE COST. >>COUN. ROGERS: MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE LEGAL ANSWER IS IT DEPENDS. SOME PLACES WON'T BE FIXED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OR 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX THAT ALLOWS US TO KEEP HAMMERING THEM WITH LIENS. WE DO SUPPORT THIS. BUT THE ANSWER WOULD BE IT DEPENDS ON THE FACTS OF THE SITUATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE ARE ON AN AMENDMENT TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ALL THOSE -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 8-0. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR AS AMENDED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED FOUR TIMES. AND THIS IS -- I THINK WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. CORNELIUS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE GRACE FOLLOWED BY MITCHELL. >> ALL RIGHT. RIGHT HERE, IN AN EMAIL WE GOT FROM IPRA FROM TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN THERE'S A RENTAL ORDINANCE. AND MADAM CHAIR, THIS SHOWS YOUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILOR LEWIS, SENT THE PUBLIC COMMENT LIST TO NAOP, THE ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ASSOCIATED CONTRACTORS OF NEW MEXICO. THOSE ARE DEVELOPERS. AND A REAL ESTATE LOBBYIST. YOUR COLLEAGUE, MADAM CHAIR, HAS IN THE PAST COLLUDED WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE FUNDING HIS CAMPAIGN TO SYSTEMATICALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST COMBAT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF US THINKING -- OKAY, OUR NAMES ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT LIST EVERY TIME. MADAM CHAIR, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T IPRA'd THEM. THERE'S MORE EMAILS OF COUNCILORS IN THE MAJORITY EMAILING DEVELOPERS AND LOBBYISTS PUBLIC COMMENT LISTS SO YOU AND SYSTEMATICICALLY UNDERMINE FREE SPEECH. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT I SENT PUBLIC COMMENT LIST? >> YES, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD. ALIZE AN ATTACHMENT. REVISED DOC.X. THIS IS SENT FROM MR. CORNELIUS TO COUNCILOR LEWIS. HERE YOU GO, COUNCILOR. FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS, HERE'S THE LATEST. THE ORDINANCE HAS ROOM AND PUBLIC COMMENT HAS ROOM. BTW WE'LL MOVE THE BILL TO FIRST TWO ITEMS IN FINAL ACTION TONIGHT. THAT AGENDA CHANGE WON'T BE NAMED, BUT DAVIS AGREED TO IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT'S THE DATE OF THE EMAIL? >> NOVEMBER 8, 2023. >>COUN. LEWIS: THREE YEARS AGO. AND YOU IPRA'd THIS? >> I DIDN'T PERSONALLY. SCOMBLL GLAEGS . >>COUN. LEWIS: WHERE DID YOU GET IT? >> I HAVE SOURCES. >>COUN. LEWIS: GIVE ME A COPY OF IT. IF I SENT THAT FROM A CITY EMAIL, I'M PROUD OF THAT. I DON'T SEND EMAILS FROM A CITY EMAIL THAT I'M NOT READY FOR EVERYBODY WILLING TO SEE. IF THAT IS AN EMAIL I SENT, I'M FINE WITH THAT. IN FACT, IF YOU ASK ME FOR THAT, I WOULD HAVE SENT IT TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'REX POSING ANYTHING. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE WHATEVER COMMENT YOU MAKE. OR MAKE WHATEVER CONCLUSION YOU WANT ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE OR SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG. ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THAT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE TRUE, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT AS WELL. INYOU PUT SOMETHING UP THERE THAT I HAVEN'T SAID. >> I'LL SEND YOU THE EMAIL, COUNCILOR LEWIS. IT'S IN YOUR CITY EMAIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: SO IT WAS ANOTHER EMAIL? >> THIS IS YOUR CITY EMAIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU GOT IT -- >> I DIDN'T IPRA IT MYSELF. YOU DON'T GET TO KNOW THAT NAME. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO PROBLEM. YOU DON'T GET TO VERIFY IT'S TRUE IF YOU DON'T. THANKS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, TODAY WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THOMAS ABEYTA THAT HAS THAT ATTACHMENT. IT WENT TO ALL COUNCILORS. >>COUN. LEWIS: GOOD. I'M GLAD TO SEE IT. ANYTHING THAT I SEND FROM A CITY EMAIL, I ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT IT COULD BE IPRA'd. IF YOU WANT ANYONE OF MY EMAILS. JUST CALL ME. I'LL SEND ANY EMAIL THAT I SENT OR SENT TO ME. IF I NEED TO DEFEND IT OR EXPLAIN IT OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. CORNELIUS, CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M NOT SURE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE. MITCHELL FOLLOWED BY JOE. JOE FOLLOWED BY LISA. LISA FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY ALAN. ALAN FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. I HAD A LIST OF THINGS I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED TONIGHT. BILLS LIKE THIS I KNOW COULD BE VERY TRICKY BECAUSE WE'RE APPRECIATIVE THAT TO SEE A BILL TRYING TO HONE IN ON SOME OF THE BAD ACTORS. WE GET STUCK ON BILLS THAT ARE A CATCH ALL. I THINK THIS BILL HAD SOME PAUSES THAT DO THAT. BUT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD TONIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS A SOLID COMPROMISE. LOOKING AT WHAT THE BILL WAS INTENDING TO DO AND IN THE REALITIES OF HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. SO, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY MERVYN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I WOULD ECHO HIS COMMENTS. I THINK ORDINANCE 26-24 IS ENTIRELY NOBLE TO PROTECT VULNERABLE RENTERS FROM PREVABLE IMPOSITIONS ON HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL BEING. AND THE AMENDMENTS MADE IT A BETTER BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT NO SUCH PROTECTIONS ARE OFFERED FOR THE THOUSANDS OF ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS WHOSE CIRCUMSTANCES OBLIGE THEM TO BE TENANTS OF THE CITY OCCUPYING STREET SIDEWALKS AND ALLEY WAYS. SCANT EFFORT IS MADE WITH ANY REALISTIC OR EFFECTIVE PROTOCOLS TO PROTECT THEM FROM LACK OF HEATING, LACK OF COOLING, LACK OF RUNNING WATER, OR VENTILATIONS THAT DIVERT THE VEHICLE EXHAUST FUMES IN THEIR CLOSE PROXIMITY. PERHAPS IF THE CITY WERE TO BE FINED $500 A DAY IT MIGHT BE BETTER MOTIVATED INSTEAD OF SPENDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO LITTLE VISIBLE EFFECT TO RESPOND TO THAT KIND OF PROBLEM. >> MERVYN FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN. KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. >> I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT LANDLORDS GET UP TO WHEN THERE'S NO REGULATION AND THERE IS NO INSPECTION. I LIVED IN APARTMENT WHERE THE WINDOW FRAMES ROTTED AND THE GLASS PAINS FELL INTO THE WOOD EXPOSING TWO INCH GAPS TO THE OUTDOORS. GREATER ATTEMPTS TO HEAT OR COOL THE APARTMENT WAS INEFFICIENT. TRIPING BY BILL. MY LANDLORD DIDN'T PAY CONTRACTORS. AND ONE CONTRACTOR THREW A BRICK THROUGH MY WINDOW. THANKFULLY NO ONE WAS IN THE ROOM AT THAT TIME. SHE DIDN'T REPLACE OR REPAIR THE ROOF FOR MONTHS WHEN THERE WAS BLACK MOLD. TWO OF MY FRIENDS HAD IT FAR WORSE, A PORTION OF THE DRYWALL CEILING TORE AWAY FROM WATER DAMAGED AND DANGLED ALMOST TO THE FLOOR. DESPITE FREQUENT COMPLAINTS THE LANDLORD NEVER ADDRESSED. FOR MONTHS. PROMPTING MY FRIENDS TO MOVE IN WITH FAMILY BECAUSE THEIR APARTMENT WAS NO LONGER HABITABLE. THIS IS WHAT LANDLORDS GET UP TO WITH ABSENCE OF REGULATIONS AND REGULATIONS WITHOUT TEETH ARE JUST AS BAD AS NO REGULATIONS AT ALL. IF THE LANDLORD CANNOT MAINTAIN A SAFE PROPERTY THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE LANDLORD. PLEASE VOTE YES ON O-26-24. >> JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY AURORA FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. I'VE RENTED FOR THE ENTIRETY OF MY ADULT LIFE. I LIVED IN NINE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE ONE I LIVE IN WAS BUILT IN 1941. NEEDS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. HAD SEVERE PLUMBING PROBLEMS. WENT TWO MONTHS WITHOUT HEAT IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. THESE PROPERTIES ARE AN ISSUE. I APPRECIATE HOUSING SUPPLIES MENTIONED IN THIS ORDINANCE. AS IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENT, THE HOUSING SHORTAGE DRIVES THESE PROBLEMS. LACK OF HOUSING AND ABILITY TO HAVE OWNERSHIP RELATES TO THIS. WITH THESE CONSTRAINTS, THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE BETTER PROTECTION FOR TENANTS. MANY LANDLORDS MAINTAIN A PROPERTY AND RESPECT TENANTS. THEY'RE NOT AFFECTED BY THIS ORD MNS. THE ONES NEGLIGENT OF THE TENANTS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS. THANK YOU. >> AURORA FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS AURORA. I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE RENTER UNIT HABITABILITY. ONE PERSONAL ANECDOTE WHO HAS A RENTAL UNIT. IT WAS IN A STATE OF POOR REPAIR. THERE WERE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS. THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH AIR QUALITY, HUMIDITY AND OTHERS. [ INAUDIBLE ]. WENT THROUGH A LOT OF STRESS AND HEALTH ISSUES. I HOPE THIS ORDINANCE CAN HELP TO PROTECT TENANTS AND KEEP LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S CRITICAL TO PROTECT FROM THINGS LIKE BLACK MOLD AND THINGS THAT CAN SURVIVE THE HEAT IN THE COMING SUMMER. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AT THIS COUNCIL MEETING. >> SARAH. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, I'M SARAH. I'M A CHRISTIAN PASTOR IN THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS. I ALSO RENT A PROPERTY IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I'VE PERSONALLY HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT LANDLORDS IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND I NOTICED WHEN I WAS BACK THERE THAT NONE OF THEM CAME TO OPPOSE THIS. THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LANDLORDS ON THE COUNCIL WILL NOT TAKE A HIT FROM THIS. NO GOOD LANDLORD WILL. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE WORRIED ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CONSISTENTLY BREAKING THE LAW. PLEASE VOTE YES ON 24 AND PROTECT OUR HARDWORKING TENANTS WHO ARE PLAYING BY THE RULES. FROM THAT SMALL MINORITY OF BAD ACTORS THAT AREN'T. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> UP NEXT, WE HAVE BRITNEY. >> HELLO. I'M BACK AGAIN. URGING YOU TO VOTE YES BECAUSE RENTERS HAVE -- WHAT FEELS LIKE NO PROTECTIONS. THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY MISTREATED BY LANDLORDS IN THIS CITY. I LIVED IN THE HOUSE WHERE A SWAMP COOLER STOPPED WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER. IT WAS 90 DEGREES IN THE HOUSE. WE CALLED AND ASKED THEM TO FIX IT. NOTHING WAS DONE. WE SPENT THE WHOLE SUMMER MISERABLE. I HAVE CHRONIC MIGRAINES AND IT WAS HARD TO BEAR. EVERYWHERE I LOOKED AND CALLED THERE WAS NO RECOURSE. THAT IS JUST ONE OF MANY, MANY EXAMPLES. EVERYONE I TALKED TO IN THE CITY HAS DEALT WITH SOME KIND OF ISSUE WHETHER IT WAS WATER NOT WORKING, APPLIANCES BREAKING, NOT HAVING LIVABLE TEMPERATURES IN THE HOUSE. PLEASE VOTE TO GIVE US MORE PROTECTION. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. CORNELIUS, A YOUNG MAN. >> HE MISTAKENLY SIGNED UP FOR R-20. WE'RE GOING TO CALL JUSTIN. >> HI. MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANT TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN WATCHING ALL YEAR AS YOU ALL VOTE ON THINGS. SOME THINGS YOU'VE DONE PRETTY WELL ON. RENTERS AND THE HOUSING PROTECTIONS IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IMPROVEMENT ON. LOT OF THE IDO THINGS THAT COULD HAVE CREATED MORE HOUSING STOCK DIDN'T PASS. AND THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE THAT WAS STIFFLY ENFORCED STATE LAWS HAS NOT PASSED. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS ONE THAT WITH THE AMENDMENTS -- WHEN I WAS HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I SHARED THAT I WAS KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE VOTES. I HAVE SEEN YOU VOTING WITH THE CONSERVATIVES MANY TIMES. I HAVE THE VOTES FOR EVERYBODY. THIS IS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE A TEACHER AND STUDENTS ARE NOT PASSING ON THINGS. YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO IMPROVE. HERE'S THINGS I WANT YOU TO DO TO RAISE YOUR GRADES. THE GRADES WILL GO FOR YOUR FINAL REPORT CARD. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE BACK ON THE BILL. AS AMENDED FOUR TIMES. AND I'M GOING TO GO TO OTHER COUNCILORS BEFORE WE GO TOO LITTLE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. DO ANY OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTSES. I WILL CLOSE WITH REMINDING US THAT LAST YEAR THERE WERE 148 PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVED THREE OR MORE UNIFORM HOUSING CODE VIOLATIONS. THAT MADE UP 40% OF THE TOTAL VIOLATIONS FOR THE YEAR. THAT REALLY SHOWS ME THERE'S A MINORITY OF BAD ACTORS THAT ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES. IT ALSO TELLS ME THAT FOR THOSE FEW BAD ACTORS THE CITY IS SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF RESOURCES GOING OUT MULTIPLE TIMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO TRY AND GET REPAIRS DONE. SO, THIS BILL HAD DOES NOTHING BUT SPEED UP THAT ENFORCEMENT AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS IN ON THE BAD ACTORS. SO THAT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS A DECENT PLACE TO LIVE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER SPONSORS ARE GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. WE'RE BACK ON O-24 AS AMENDED FOUR TIMES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON A 6-4. 6-3? I'M SORRY. NOW, WE ARE ON R-20. AND THESE ARE THE SAME SPONSORS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR TELLES, AND COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. ESTABLISHING CODE ENFORCEMENT PRIORITIES WITH PROTECTION OF RESIDENTIAL TENANTS. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR DO PASS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS BILL IS REALLY SIMPLE. THE CITY ALREADY PRIORITIZES RESPONSES FOR APD AND AFR AND ACS WHEN PEOPLE CALL IN. WE PRIORITIZE THOSE TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES TO GET ACTION FIRST. SO, THIS DOES THE SAME THING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. SAYING IF WE HAVE A LOT OF CALL S WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT DEAL WITH LIFE SAFETY. THINGS THAT REALLY GOING TO IMPLEMENT OR IMPACT THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF TENANTS WOULD BE PRIORITIZED OVER THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, WE HAVE LAN FOLLOWED BY MERVYN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M THE CHIEF STRATEGY OFFICER FOR THE POLICY. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF R-26-20. IN MY FIRST MEETING IN THIS CHAMBER AS A COUNCIL MEMBER I QUOTED IF ALL MEN WERE ANGELS GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. I THOUGHT THAT MEETING WAS SPICY. ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE POLICIES THAT HOLD EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT OF HOUSING STANDARDS. THIS IS NOT A BLUE OR RED ISSUE, IT'S A HUMAN ISSUE THAT ASKS OUR CITY AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE RENTERS ARE ABLE TO LIVE IN SPACES THAT THEY ARE RENTING. THE BILL ENSURES CODE ENFORCEMENT CHECKS ON RENTAL UNITS NOT MEETING HABITABILITY STANDARDS BUT PRIORITIZES CODE VIOLATIONS THAT RISEN TO THE STATUS OF IMMINENT HAZARDS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMANITY. >> MERVYN -- I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE. THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY COUNCILORS HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFOREHAND? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST ONE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW YOU HAVE 17 PEOPLE. 19 SECTORS. I REALLY WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION. IS THIS REALLY GOING TO PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN -- BUT I KNOW THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE NO AND WE DO WHAT WE CAN AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. HOW MUCH OF A BURDEN IS THIS GOING TO PUT ON THE OTHER ISSUES YOU FACE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, YOU ARE CORRECT ON BOTH ACCOUNTS. WE WILL -- TO SOME DEGREE THIS CODIFIES WHAT WE DO WHEN IT'S TRULY A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE, WE ANY WE NEED TO NOT RESPOND TO THOSE -- LIKE SOMEBODY HAS A WALL HEIGHT BOTHERING ME OR THERE'S A CAR THAT'S BEEN PARKED IN A YARD AND I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S PARKED BECAUSE IT'S PARTLY ON THEIR LAWN OR SOMETHING. WHICH SOME PEOPLE GET VERY HEATED ABOUT THOSE THINGS. THOSE WILL FALL TO A LOWER PRIORITY. WE'VE SAID REPEATEDLY THAT WE COULD PROBABLY KEEP A HUNDRED CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BUSY. ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AS THE RECOGNITION OF THE FUNCTION OF THE CIVIL LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECTS IN THIS TOWN HAS GROWN. WE CAN ALWAYS USE MORE HELP. WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS HUWE DO THINGS ANYWAY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I KNEW THE ANSWER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, MADAM PRESIDENT, IF WE PASS THESE THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SETTING YOU GUYS UP FOR FAILURE. HAT -- THAT THESE RULES ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO GOOD. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, BEING THAT THIS IS NOT ON ORDINANCE THAT SAYS DO SOMETHING ENTIRELY NEW, WE'RE OKAY WITH IT. AND LIKE I SAID, IT CODIFIES WHAT WE DO. WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS WHEN WE ADD A NEW REQUIREMENT WITHOUT FUNDING THAT, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY TOUGH. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STOP DOING SOMETHING IN ORDER TO DO THIS. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS. WE BELIEVE IN IT. WE THINK RENTERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO AREN'T RENTERS WHO HAPPEN TO BE STAYING IN THE HOUSE OF A RELATIVE NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. YOUR HOME SHOULD BE A SAFELY AND HEALTHY PLACE FOR YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU FOR THE CANDID COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, HANG ON. DIRECTOR, I'M PLEASED TO HEAR AND NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR YOU ALREADY DO THIS ANYWAY. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE HOW YOU PRIORITIZE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND WITHIN CODE ENFORCEMENT? >> I'LL LET JEREMY ANSWER THAT. BUT WE DO RECEIVE THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS PER YEAR THROUGH DIFFERENT CHANNELS, PRIMARILY THROUGH 311. WE DO HAVE A WAY OF DOING CATEGORIZING THOSE. 311 PUTS IN THE BUCKET FOR US. AND WE PRIORITIZE. THOSE ARE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES. THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN YOU MAY HAVE SOME RENTERS WHO ARE SUFFERING TREMENDOUSLY, BUT A BUILDING IS COLLAPSING IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUSY ROAD, GUESS WHERE WE'RE GOING? WE'RE GOING TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RENTERS PAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S GREAT SEGUE WITH WHY I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BILL. YOU'RE ALREADY PRIORITIZING THIS. YOU'RE ALREADY MANAGING MAKING SURE TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. AT THE SAME TIME IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S THE IDEA, TO ME, THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER PLACES IN ALBUQUERQUE -- BUT MAYBE MORE SO IN SOME DISTRICTS, THAT -- THERE'S A NEED FOR SERVICE EVERYWHERE WITHIN OUR CITY, NOT JUST IN CERTAIN PLACES. I'M PLEASES TO KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY PRIORITIZING IT AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH US ACTUALLY MANDATING SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF WHETHER IT COMES TO STAFFING OR RESOURCES OR NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE REST OF ALBUQUERQUE WHEN THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER PRESSING NEED. ALL IS A PRIORITY TO THOSE TAXPAYERER RESIDENTS AS WELL. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL -- IF THIS WERE TO PASS, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT -- I KNOW YOUR INSPECTORS HAVE QUADRANTS IN OUR CITY. WOULD THAT MEAN THEY WOULD BE PULLING DIFFERENT AREAS? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. EACH CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST IS ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC AREA. TO EXPAND ON COUNCILOR BASSAN'S QUESTION, EVERYTHING IS SENT TO OUR SYSTEM, ABQ PLAN SYM, WITH THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW COMMENTS ON THERE. EACH CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST IS ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE AND PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT ARE HEALTH CONCERNS OR ANYTHING HIGH PRIORITY. ANYTHING WITH IMMINENT DANGER OF BODILY HARM. WE'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT. THE WAY THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE READS IS THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. WE WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT THOSE RESOURCES FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THOSE PRIORITY CALLS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU GET -- IS THIS A BIG PROBLEM? WOULD YOU SEE THE OTHER -- I KNOW MY DISTRICT FOLKS CALL ME OR CALL OUR OFFICE ALL THE TIME. AND WITH THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM. WE REACH OUT TO YOUR OFFICE. HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE SERVICES THAT MY CONSTITUENTS ARE RECEIVING IN EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS? I KNOW THOUGH ONE DISTRICT SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED OVER ANOTHER. I AM CONCERNED THAT IT WILL LEAD TO MISCLASSIFICATIONS AND SOME DELAY IN SERVICING THE FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT. THAT'S WHO I REPRESENT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WITH THIS RESOLUTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY. SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT COME INTO PRIORITY THREE CALLS AS WELL -- THEY START SMALL AND GROW BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BOY THE TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT ADDRESSES THOSE IT CHANGED PRIORITY LEVELS. >>COUN. GROUT: ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICTS, EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS, ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THEM. AND I THINK THAT I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS TOO. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO OFFER SOME DATA. WE REQUESTED ALL THE DATA FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND IT CAME IN HANDY FOR THIS BILL TO LOOK AT WHAT THE DATA SHOWS ABOUT CALLS AND WHAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING. LOOKING OVER THE DATA -- AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND THIS TO YOU. WE HAVE A PRIORITY BREAKDOWN. WE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE TOP VIOLATIONS WE'RE ACTUALLY ACTING UPON. THE NUMBER ONE VIOLATION THAT WE'RE ACTING ONIS -- GROWTH AND WEEDS AND LITTER. AND ARTICLES NOT TO OBSTRUCT SIDEWALKS. THIRD WAS SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS. OUTDOOR STORAGE WAS FOURTH. AND PARKING DESIGN WAS NUMBER FIVE. NUMBER SIX WAS ALLOWABLE USES. AND THE NEXT ONE WAS NUISANCE PROPERTIES. I ALSO LOOKED AT BY DISTRICT. BY FAR, DISTRICT SIX HAS LOT OF ENFORCEMENT. MORE THAN I THINK OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. I THINK PUTTING A PRIORITIZIZATION SCHEDULE IS ACTUALLY NEEDED. I THINK THE TEAM DOES THEIR BEST TO GET TO THE LIFE SAFETY ONES FIRST. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE LOUDEST IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CALLING REPEATEDLY IN THE DATA, THAT'S WHO SEEMS TO BE GETTING RESPONDED TO. IT IS A COMPLAINT-BASED SYSTEM. THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO PRIORITIZE. BASED ON THE DATA, IT IS NOT BEING PRIORITIZED ACROSS THE BOARD AND ACROSS THE CITY BY LIFE SAFETY MEASURES. I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHY ONE OF THE BILLS WE HAVE TONIGHT IS TO ADD CODE ENFORCEMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE RESOURCES TO DO THE WORK AND PRIORITIZE CORRECTLY. I THINK WITH EXTRA RESOURCES THIS PRIORITIZATION MODEL, I HOPE, COULD PRIZE THINGS LIKE INADEQUATE PROTECTION WHICH IS LOWER ON THE LIST. INADEQUATE SANITATION. HAZARDOUS MECHANICAL AND WIRING. ALL OF THE THINGS I'M SEEING UNDER TOP TEN THINGS. I JUST WANTED TO BASELINE THE CONVERSATION WITH SOME DATA AND FACTS AND NOT ANECDOTAL WHAT WE THINK IS HAPPENING. BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT HEAVILY IN DISTRICT SIX. I AGREE, POTENTIALLY WE COULD BE DOING -- SPREADING THAT LOVE AROUND TO OTHER PARTS. WE AREN'T BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S BEING PRIORITIZED. I HAVE HAD MY CONSTITUENTS CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THINGS LIKE WEEDS. LIKE FIVE-FOOT WEEDS. I GOT A LITTER -- LETTER QUICKLY. BUT THE RENTER DOWN THE ROAD STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED A LETTER FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS. I CAUTION WE THINK WE DON'T NEED THIS BUT WE ACTUALLY DO BASED ON THE DATA. I ASKED EQUITY AND INCLUSION TO HELP US WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THE DATA SO WE CAN SEE IT AND MAKE SOME BETTER DECISIONS BASED ON DATA. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS, I WILL GO TO THE COUNCILORS WHO ARE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: BEFORE I GO INTO THIS, I JUST WANT TO BRING US ALL TO ATTENTION SECTION E. ANY CODE VIOLATION RISEN TO THE STATUS OF IMMINENT HAZARD SHALL MAINTAIN EMERGENCY PRIORITY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE EXAMPLE THAT DIRECTOR VARELA GAVE, IF WE'VE GOT AN APARTMENT BUILDING WITHOUT RUNNING WATER OR A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO FALL AND KILL PEOPLE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO THAT. I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE JUST PASSED A BUDGET. AND WE KNOW THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THE MONEY. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY COMPLAINT DRIVEN. SO, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE BACKING OF THIS BODY TO SAY YOU CAN PRIORITIZE. YOU SHALL PRIORITIZE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY OVER A WALL THAT'S TWO INCHES TOO HIGH. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD FOLKS THAT WERE CALLING AROUND LACK OF RUNNING WATER. LAST WINTER, WE HAD FOLKS CALL ING ME. THEY DIDN'T HAVE HEAT. WE WERE STRETCHING CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS VERY THIN. I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE IN THE POSITION TO HAVE TO SAY I KNOW THAT YOU CALLED ME ABOUT WEEDS, BUT I WANT TO GO OVER HERE AND HELP THESE PEOPLE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEGITIMATELY SAY WITH THE BACKING OF CITY COUNCIL AND OF THE ADMINISTRATION, I HOPE, THAT I CAN'T DEAL WITH YOUR WEEDS BECAUSE I HAVE TO HELP THESE PEOPLE. SO, I THINK -- I DON'T CARE WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE IN. IF THEY'RE PEOPLE WITHOUT RUNNING WATER, WITHOUT HEAT, WITHOUT A DOOR THAT LOCKS, WITH STAIRS THAT ARE FALLING AND THEY'RE UNSAFE, I WANT THEM PRIORITIZED. AND WANT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO FEEL BACKED IN THAT. SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT HELP TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. HOPEFULLY WE GOT YOU A FEW MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. BUT I WANT TO ENSURE LIFE AND SAFETY TAKES PRIORITY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DO PASS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES ON A 5-4. WE'RE ON ITEM D. THIS IS O-26. ADOPTING A NEW ARTICLE ON THE REVISED ORDINANCES, ADDING ARTICLE 12. TO BE KNOWN AS THE STORM WATER UTILITY ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER SIX ARTICLE 11 STORM WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE. DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE DEFINITION OF ADAPTED GREEN STORM WATER AND ADDING NEW SECTIONS 15. I'M GOING TO MOVE A DO PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DO PASS OF O-26. I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO DEFER IT. THE ONLY REASON I'D LIKE TO DEFER IT BEFORE THE AMENDMENTS. THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN THE PACKET AND LOOK THEM OVER. WE JUST HAVE SUCH A LONG AGENDA. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO TWO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET. ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE THE SOLID WASTE AND THIS ONE WITH THE STORM WATER. I THINK IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE. IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS ON THE MOTION -- DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THERE'S A SECOND ON DEFERRAL BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. WE'LL ASK THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO -- >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ONE PERSON PRESENT. THAT WOULD BE JAMES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, AS WAS POINTED OUT TODAY IN TODAY'S ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL OPINION SECTION, NOT ALL STORM WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ARE EQUAL. WHEN UNDERLYING SUBSTRATE IS AN IMPERIABLE LAYER OF CLAY, AS IS TRUE AT A SITE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW ON SUMMER IN THE NEAR NORTHEAST HEIGHTS, THE EFFECTS CAN POTENTIALLY EXACERBATE STORM WATER THREAT TO THE PROPERTY. THE MEASURE YOU HAVE JUST DEFERRED SHOULD BE AMENDED TO SUBJECT EVERY GSI PROJECT TO SOIL SUBSTRATE TESTING TO IDENTIFY PERMEABLE LAYERS THAT COULD RENDER FILTRATION OF WATER TO THE WATER TABLE IMPOSSIBLE AND DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. THIS WOULD ALSO ENSURE THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES REALIZE THEIR INTENDED BENEFIT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO COUNCILORS HAVE COMMENTS ON THE DEFERRAL? >> OUR ONE ZOOM PARTICIPANT CANNOT BE LOCATED. >>COUN. PEÑA: WITH THAT, THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL TO NEXT MEETING WHICH IS JUNE 15th. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. WAS THAT A YES OR NO? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ON O-27. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE SIX PART ONE TO ADD NEW SECTION TO BE KNOWN AS THE SUNSET REVIEW CLAUSE TO MANDATE PERIODIC REVIEW PROCESS TO THE EVALUATE CONTINUED NECESSITY EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF EVERY BOARD COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DO PASS OF O-27 BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO OPEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAD CREATED THE -- WHAT IS UNOFFICIALLY THE BOARD THE BOARDS COMMISSION TO EVALUATE THE EXCESSIVE OR NOT EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND THEY HAVE UNDERTAKEN LOOKING AT DOING A REVIEW OF A THIRD OF EACH OF THOSE. IN THAT, THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR A SUNSET ON ANYTHING THAT BECOMES INACTIVE. WE HAVE SOME THAT WERE SEATED AND NEVER DONE ANYTHING. IN THAT, HEY RECOMMENDED THIS SUNSET REVIEW CLAUSE IN ORDER TO SAY THAT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IF NOTHING HAPPENS OR EVEN IF IT DOES THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WILL AUTOMATICALLY SUNSET AND TERMINATE UNLESS COUNCIL TAKES ACTION ON KEEPING THEM GOING. I KNOW THAT MR. CHAVEZ IS HERE TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN FURTHER. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO MOVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO O-27. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IS TECHNICAL CLEANUP CHANGES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AFTER WE ROASTED THE BILL. AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOME MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE REGARDING THE SUNSET REVIEW CLAUSE, MR. CHAVEZ IS HERE. HE IS PART OF THE COMMISSION AS WELL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR, SUBSTITUTE -- COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO O-27, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. NO, SAME MOTION. THAT'S 8-0. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF ANY OF THE COUNCILORS HAVE ADDITION QUESTIONS ON THE BILL, MR. CHAVEZ IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: I THOUGHT THE AMENDMENT WAS YOURS. IT'S ACTUAL COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FLOOR AMENDMENT -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE DEFERRAL WHEN I PUT THE AMENDMENT IN. IT IS NOT ON THE FLOOR SUB. I'LL JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE BILL AND I'LL BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING IF NEEDED. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE A QUESTION. I DEFINITELY GET THE POINT OF THIS BILL. AND THE NEED FOR WINNOWING OUT SOME OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. MY ONLY CONCERN IS AS WRITTEN IT REALLY DOES TAKE AWAY THE AUTHORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND DECIDE WHETHER SOMETHING IS GOING TO CONTINUE OR NOT. IT LITERALLY SAYS AS LONG AS THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY MEETINGS. IF THE MAYOR, NOT THIS MAYOR, PUT BUT ANY MAYOR, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY CEASE BEING. WHICH MEANS A MAYOR WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO NOT APPOINT PEOPLE EVEN FOR A BOARD THE COUNCIL THINKS IS IMPORTANT. I'M THINKING THROUGH HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR AUTHORITY IN THE CASE OF A MAYOR SAYING I DON'T LIKE THIS BOARD SO I'M NOT GOING TO APPOINT ANYONE TO IT AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY CEASE. THAT WAS WHAT MY AMENDMENT WAS FOR. I DID NOT FORMAT IT FOR THE FLOOR SUB. I'LL BRING IT BACK. THAT MY CONCERN. I REALLY WANT US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS A COUNCIL, NOT US, BUT THE CITY COUNCILORS WHEN THAT HAPPENS. RATHER THAN ALLOWING A MAYOR TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN? I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. CHAVEZ IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT TO EVERYONE. I HEAR WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS SAYING. WE JUST -- IT JUST SEEMS AS THOUGH IF WE HAVE THE OPTION TO BRING THEM BACK WE ALWAYS BRING THEM BACK AND THEY CONTINUE FOREVER. I THINK THIS IS -- YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THESE ONES THAT ARE OBSOLETE. IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. THE TASK FORCE DID MEET AND WE ALL CAME TO THE CONCLUSION ON ALL THESE BOARDS FOR THE SUNSET. ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE COMMITTEES WILL AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE DECEMBER 31st, 2030. AND EVERY TIVE YEARS AFTER THAT. THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOES HAVE TO GIVE A REPORT, THE MARCH BEFORE DECEMBER 3EST 1st COUNCIL DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL ACT TO EITHER RENEW, MODIFY OR LET THAT BOARD EXPIRE. THIS WAS JUST PUT IN JUST BECAUSE WE DO -- AFTER REVIEWING ALL THE BOARDS, WE DID NOT SEE A SUNSULT -- SUNSET FOR THE BOARDS. THIS IS A FALLBACK FOR US TO HELP HE'S BOARDS STAY IN EXISTENCE. AND IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING OR MEETING QUORUM, THEN IT HELPS CLEAN UP THE BOARDS WE DO HAVE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE 75 BOARDS WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANKS FOR THE CLEARIFICATION. -- CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, AS PART OF MY CLOSE, I WILL FIRST ASK STAFF TO -- PLEASE, MR. CHAVEZ, GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S CONCERN. I'M GOING TO SAY, COUNCILORS, IN THE iPADS I ASKED THEM TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND GIVE THEIR EXPLANATION. SO THE SUBMITTED A MEMO. I HAVE THEM ADD IT TO THE iPAD FOR YOU ALL OF YOU TO REVIEW. HEARING WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN JUST SAID, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THE WAY I WAS UNDERSTANDING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND WHAT I HEARD ARE ALIGNED. FOR THE RECORD, FROM YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND THE WAY THEY READ IT AND THE WAY I WAS READING IT TWO WEEKS AGO, IT SAYS FLOOR AMENDMENT A AT THE TIME TO O-26-27 MAKES SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL CHANGE TO THE SUNSET CLAUSE LEGISLATION. THE ORIGINAL BILL OPERATED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE ON SUNSET DATE UNLESS COUNCIL VOTED TO RENEW THEM WITH LANGUAGE PROHIBITING EXPIRED BODIES FROM CONTINUING TO MEET CONTINUE BUSINESS OR RECEIVE STAFF SUPPORT. THE AMENDMENT SHIFTS THE FRAMEWORK BY REPLACING AUTOMATIC TERMINATION WITH DETERMINATION PROCESS. MEANING THAT WITHOUT A VOTE TO DIZSOLVE A BOARD OR COMMISSION COULD CONTINUE PAST ITS SUNSET DATE WHILE REQUIRING A DELIBERATE COUNCIL DECISION, THE AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN DOES NOT INCLUDE A MECHANISM COMPELLING THE COUNCIL TO ACT WITHIN A DEFINED TIME FROM WHICH COULD ALLOW BODIES TO PERSIST BEYOND SUNSET DATE WITHOUT RESOLUTION. FOR THESE REASONS WE ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHETHER THIS AMENDMENT ACHIEVES ACCOUNTABILITY OUTCOMES THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNED. BEING WE HAVE A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT -- BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE ALIGNED. IT MIGHT BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BASSAN, BEFORE YOU MOVE THE DEFERRAL, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN WANTED TO ADD TO THIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I AM OPEN TO CHANGES. I AM READING THE BILL AND HAVE NOT READ THE FLOOR SUB. THE WAY THE BILL IS WRITTEN, IT SAYS EACH BOARD OR COMMISSION SHALL SUBMIT A WRITTEN REPORT EVALUATING EFFECTIVENESS. THAT'S GREAT. BUT IF THE MAYOR HAS NOT APPOINTED PEOPLE TO THE BOARD THEY CANNOT HAVE QUORUM, THEREFORE THEY CANNOT SUBMIT IT. SO THEREFORE THEY WOULD CEASE AUTOMATICALLY. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO SAY COUNCIL HAS SOME PURVIEW THAT SAYS WE CAN CONSIDER WHY THEY MAY NOT HAVE SUBMITTED IT. I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE THINK THROUGH THAT. I'D LOVE TO CHAT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR BOTH PEOPLE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE TOO IN ADDITION TO THOSE THOUGHTS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IF THE MAYOR DOESN'T APPOINT WE CREATED A RULE THAT SAYS COUNCIL CAN APPOINT IF THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, CORRECT? NOT ON THE TASK FORCE, IN GENERAL. WE A -- IF THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL DOES NOT SUBMIT THEIR NAME BEFORE A CERTAIN DATE, THEN THE OPPOSITE MAY THEN APPOINT TO THAT BOARD, COMMISSION, OR COMMITTEE, CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. I DO KNOW WE DID CHANGE THE ICC. THAT IS ONE THAT CHANGED IN THE CHARTER. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COVERS EVERY SINGLE BOARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: LET'S WORK ON THAT TOO. WITH THAT, I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 15th. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL OF O-27 AS SUBSTITUTED TO JUNE 15th. ANY DISCUSSIONS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES, 8-0. WE'RE NOW ON O-28, WHICH IS A COMPANION BILL -- OH, NO IT'S NOT. >>COUN. BASSAN: REPEALING ORDINANCES RELATED TO BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS AND/OR COMMITTEES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN EFFECT. ROA1994 SECTIONS SERVICES COMMITTEE,S CENTRAL AVENUE NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH EMERGENCY. 9-1-1. COMMISSION ON ALCOHOL AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE. 10-10, BALLOON FIESTA COMMISSION. AND 14-5-610 APPEALS. ADDING NEW SECTION TO CREATE THE MERGING TASK FORCE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS OF O-28 BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO OPEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS WILL BE ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS A DEFERRAL COMING UP. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO O-28 BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO OPEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE HAS TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS. ALSO, INCLUDES CHANGING THE TIME FRAME FOR THE MERGING TASK FORCE TO SUBMIT REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL FROM JULY, 2026 TO FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE TASK FORCE INITIALLY MEETING. CHANGING THE ASSOCIATED DEPARTMENT FROM TRANSIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH ACTUALLY PUTS IT BACK TO WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF PAYING ATTENTION TO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND REVISING THE TASK FORCE DUTIES FROM IDENTIFYING THE APPROPRIATE CITY DEPARTMENT TO WORKING DIRECTLY TO SUBMIT PROPOSED ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION LANGUAGE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION. AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. FOR FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO O-28. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST -- I KNOW WE'RE DEFERRING IT. I WANT TO SPELL OUT THE ACRONYMS. I HAD TO LOOK THEM UP MYSELF WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE BILL TO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE. GAATC IS GREATER ALBUQUERQUE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. AND GARTC IS GREATER ALBUQUERQUE RECREATIONAL TRAILS COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I WAS CONFUSED AND HAD TO LOOK IT UP MYSELF. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. YEAH. I'LL SAY THIS. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT FORMATTED FOR THE FLOOR SUB, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ONE. I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THROUGH THIS. I GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM GAATC AND GAART. THEY'RE SERVING MEMBERS ON THE TWO COMMITTEES. THEY'RE NOT AWARE THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING. AND THEY'RE A LITTLE ALARMED. THEY THINK THOSE TWO COMMITTEES SHOULD NOT BE MERGED. MY PROPOSAL I WILL BRING BACK IS TO SAY RATHER THAN HAVING IT A DONE DEAL AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO COME BACK WITH A WORK PLAN TO MERGE, I AM ASKING TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHETHER TO MERGE OR NOT MERGE THAT COMES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE SO FOLKS ON THOSE COMMITTEES THAT ARE SERVING RIGHT NOW WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 8-0, I SHOULD SAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF -- BUT IF WE NEED TO DO THIS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE TITLE TO INCLUDE THE FULL LISTING OF THE NAME INSTEAD OF JUST THE ACRONYM SO WHEN WE HAVE DEFERRAL IT WILL STILL BE APPROPRIATE SINCE WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF WE DID THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REPUBLISH WHICH MEANS YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S RELATED TO THE TITLE OF THE BILL ITSELF. WE COULD SPELL OUT THOSE ACRONYMS WITHIN THE TEXT OF THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT ONE TO THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO SPELL OUT THE ACRONYMS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. WE'RE BACK ON O-28. I DID WRITE THAT DOWN. >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE I MOVE DEFERRAL, I JUST WANT TO -- IN THE SAME MEMO REGARDING THE SAME PROPOSED AMENDMENT FROM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, EVERYONE PLEASE START THINKING ABOUT THE TASK FORCE RESPONDED TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WITH FLOOR AMENDMENT TO O-26-28 UNDERLINE THE RECOMMENDATION BY ADDING OR NOT MERGEANS EQUALLY VALID OUTCOME BY THE TASK FORCE. THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE DIRECTED THE TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN FOR MERGING THE TWO BODIES REFLECTING THE DELIBERATE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION THAT EMERGED FROM EVIDENCE GATHERING AND STAKEHOLDER CONSULTATION. THE AMENDMENT REOPENS A QUESTION THE 2025 TASK FORCE ALREADY ANSWERED ALLOWING THE NEW TASK FORCE TO SIMPLY CONCLUDE THAT NO ACTION IS NEEDED. THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT A REFINEMENT OF THE TASK FORCES WORK IT REVERSES IT. IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO HONOR THE RIGOR OF THE PROCESS, IT SHOULD ALLOW IT TO PROCEED RATHER THAN CREATING AN OFF-RAMP THAT RENDERS THE ORIGINAL OPTIONAL. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFERRAL TO JUNE 15th. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR DEFERRAL TO JUNE 15th OF O-28 AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON O-30. THIS IS COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-30, AMENDING DOWNTOWN VACANT PREMISES ORDINANCE. ARTICLE 24. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DO PASS OF R-30 BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR BACA TO OPEN. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. WE ALL KNOW LINDY'S IS ABOUT TO BE DEMOLISHED, UNFORTUNATELY. WHO KNOWS WHAT COMES UP IN ITS PLACE. THAT STILL LEAVES SEVERAL VACANT BUILDINGS. PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT DOWNTOWN. DOWNTOWN HAPPENS TO BE DIFFERENT WHERE WE HAVE BUILDINGS VAC VACANT FOR 40 YEARS WITHOUT OVERSIGHT. THIS AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE WAS LOOKED AT A YEAR AGO. AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MOVE. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU MADE A MOTION FOR DO PASS. WHO WAS THE SECOND? COUNCILOR ROGERS. YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT LABELED A, WHICH WILL BECOME FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR BACA TO OPEN. >>COUN. BACA: THIS IS AN AMENDMENT WE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'D LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR VARELA TO SPEAK ON ALL THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. YOU ASKED VARELA TO SPEAK? I'M SORRY. DIRECTOR VARELA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, CITY COUNCIL, WE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE DEFERRAL THAT WAS GRANTED A COUPLE WEEKS TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO HELP IMPROVE THE BILL. WE HAD AN EXCELLENT MEETING WITH THE SPONSOR. AND WE ARE VERY SATISFIED WITH THE RESULT HERE. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO O-30, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES. 7-1. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. O-30, AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE AMENDMENT. HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THE ORIGINAL QUESTION THAT I ASKED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN IT COMES FROM VACANT PREMISES ORDINANCE TO NOW STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY AND STRUCTURAL INSPECTION? HOW DOES THAT -- I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN RECTIFIED WITH ANY AMENDMENT, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M WONDERING WHERE THAT MAY FALL. IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE, DIRECTOR? >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD. AT THIS TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE BUILDINGS WERE VACANT AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE DETERIORATION ISSUES. PART OF THE AGREEMENT AND THE OFFER MADE BY THE SPONSOR WAS THAT -- I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE FUNDING STREAM IS, BUT HE SET ONE IN PLACE. HE WILL BE COVERING THE COST OF HAVING THAT INITIAL STUDY PERFORMED. THAT TOOK CARE OF OUR RESOURCE QUESTION ON HOW TO GET THAT DONE. IT'S EASY FOR US TO MONITOR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS HAVING STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS. FOR US TO GO IN AND DO THAT -- I BELIEVE THERE ARE 137 PROMPTS WITHIN THAT AREA. THAT WAS BEYOND OUR CAPABILITY. WAS MIXING TOO MUCH UNTIL INTO ONE PARTICULAR BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. HOW IS THAT MATTER TAKEN CARE OF? ARE WE VOTING ON FUNDING SOURCE? COUNCILOR, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE PAID FOR? IS IT A ONE-TIME THING FOR INITIAL INSPECTION STRUCTURALLY? >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE VERY FIRST SURVEY WAS FUNDED OUT OF MRA. THERE IS SOME FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. IF ANYONE DID NOT EXEMPT OUT, YOU WITH WILL HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE FEES TO COVER COST. ADDING THIS AMENDMENT, I AGREED TO COVER THE COST FOR ASSESSMENT OUT OF THE COUNCIL SET ASIDE. IDEALLY, AFTER THIS SURVEY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE THE ANALYSIS WILL BE IN AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. IF THERE ARE ANY FEES, IT WOULD GO TO COVERING FUTURER COSTS. AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES AND PLACES WHERE THEY DIRECTLY CHARGE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THE ASSESSMENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT. I GUESS I'M STILL HUNG UP ON WE CALL SOMETHING A DOWNTOWN VACANT PREMISES ORDINANCE AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. IF I WAS WITH A PROPERTY OWNER AND I HAD SOMEBODY COME IN CLAIMING THAT I HAD A VACANT PROBLEM, AND DASH -- I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY IN A VACANT PREMISES ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BACA: THE INTENT OF THE BILL AS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED LAST YEAR DID INCLUDE NOT JUST VACANT BUT THE INTENTION WAS TO ADDRESS STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. AS YOU KNOW, YOU AND I WORKED TOGETHER AT THE FAMILY'S PROPERTY IN THE AREA, A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE REALLY OLD. AND THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED. IN MANY CASE, WE DON'T HAVE GOOD CONTACT WITH THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING. THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS COVER HOSE. WE TOOK OUT THOSE PROVISIONS. WE'RE ADDING IN ONE PROVISION WHICH IS SECOND FLOOR. AND IF YOU WANT EXEMPTIONS, WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL, YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN TO MAKING SURE YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT GOING TO COLLAPSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORS. THIS IS JUST ADDING IN PART OF THE ORIGINAL INTENTION. BY ADDING IN THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, LINDY'S RIGHT AFTER ASSESSED, IT WAS VACANT ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS CAME FROM. THE CITY INSPECTOR SAID IF WE COULD SEE THE SECOND FLOOR WE COULD HAVE MITIGATED THIS POTENTIALLY. THAT'S ALL THIS DOES. WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER STUDIES AND TALK TO SOME OF OUR STAFF, IF YOUR FIRST TWO FLOORS ARE GOOD, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT SHOULD BE FINE. MY PERSONAL OPINION, I WISH WE COULD DO AN ENTIRE STRUCTURE. THAT'S ALSO NOT REALLY PRACTICAL. ADDING A SECOND FLOOR AND PUTTING IN STRUCTURAL -- WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE BILL, PROVIDES SOME ASSESSMENT. IT PROVIDES SAFETY TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO REGULARLY ASK BECAUSE ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONNECTED, AT LEAST QUITE A FEW OF THEM. THIS IS A REASONABLE UPDATE. TO HOPEFULLY MMITIGATE. WE HAD A FAMILY LOSE THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND POTENTIALLY RETIREMENT. PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. IT'S TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE THAT THE STREETS ARE STILL CLOSED. AND BUSINESSES ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THIS CLOSURE. IT'S NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORS WORRIED, BUT THE BUSINESSES BEING LOST RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THESE ROAD CLOSURES THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS STILL FALLING APART. I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: IS THERE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE FRANCESCO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> LINDY'S DINER 2.0, BETTER KNOWN AS MAYOR KELLER'S ILLEGAL WALL IS MORE THAN TWO INCHES TOO TALL. IT'S THE UNLAWFUL STRUCTURE THAT TRESPASSES IN VIOLATION OF IDO MANDATES THAT IS A KNOWN HAZARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY TO THIS DAY. TO THIS DAY, I'VE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS. TO THIS DAY, IT'S LITERALLY LEANING INTO MY HOUSE AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT. FRAUDULENTLY PERMITTED TO STAND BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, IN VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE LAWS WHILE ENGAGING IN UNETHICAL SABOTAGE. IT WON'T BE FIXED BY SMOKE AND SCREEN COMMITTEES. YOU NEED TO BE AIMING HIGHER. MUCH HIGHER. THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. IF I CAN PLEASE GET SOME UPIDATES ON WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THIS MONSTROSITY FALLS INTO MY HOUSE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? >>COUN. PEÑA: MS. SENGEL, CAN YOU HAVE SOMEONE CHECK INTO THAT? IF THAT'S A CODE VIOLATION, JEREMY WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-30 AS AMENDED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON A 5-4. WE'RE NOW ON O-31, AMENDING THE ORDINANCE TO DEFINE THE ROLE OF THE BOARD. IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY AND CLARIFY PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION OVERSIGHT -- WHY AM I READING THIS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO RECORD TO SHOW COUNCILOR BACA AS A CO-SPONSOR. I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT. O-31 IS AMENDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY TASK ADVISORY BOARD ORDINANCE TO DEFINE THE ROLE OF THE BOARD, IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY AND CLARIFY PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, OVERSIGHT AND RECORDING REQUIREMENTS. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO OPEN. >>COUN. ROGERS: I WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ADVISORY BOARD. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. JUST POURING THROUGH DATA AND GIVING THEM MORE ACCESS TO DATA AND REALLY IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY FOR THEM. THIS ORDINANCE JUST CHANGES AND STRENGTHENS THE OVERSIGHT CAPABILITY AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BOARD. THEY EXPRESSED -- NOT CONCERN, BUT REALLY NEEDING RESOURCES POURING THROUGH DATA AND GETTING ACCESS TO DATA AND ANALYZING THAT DATA SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY GIVE US GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE PROCEEDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS JUST RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD TO STRENGTHEN THEIR OVERSIGHT REQUIREMENT. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO COUNCILOR BASSAN'S POINT THIS ONE OF THE BOARDS THAT PUBLIC SAFETY TAX BOARD THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AND DID NOT ACTUALLY FORM FOR YEARS AFTER WE PASSED THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX IN 2004. SO, THIS JUST BUILDS ON THAT. SO THEY HAVE A BETTER ABILITY TO HELP US WATCH WHAT WE'RE DO GO WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. OR I MOVE A DO PASS. MY APOLOGIES. THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE AN AMENDMENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> YES, WE HAVE LISA FOLLOWED BY KENNETH. KENNETH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ADVISORY BOARD. THE BOARD WAS CREATED TO PROVIDE ADVICE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ABOUT DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. THE BOARD SPENT MONTHS TAKING INFO AND TESTIMONY FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE'RE -- AND HOW TO PROPERLY PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY -- ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS INVOLVING PUBLIC SAFETY. WE REVIEWED THE ORDINANCE. WE DIDN'T SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THE ORDINANCE. WE DID NOT HAVE A BOARD VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE. WE HAD NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS. I THINK THE SENSE OF THE BOARD IS THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOOD. WE URGE YOU TO PASS IT. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. WE'RE BACK TO THE COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THESE ARE GREAT CHANGES. THIS MAKES ME VERY HAPPY. THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THIS TRANSPARENCY. SO I'M VERY PLEASED. THIS BOARD HAS DONE SOME WORK. IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE BROUGHT IT FORTH. AND MR. PASCOW TO JOIN AND IT'S A GOOD THING. THIS MAKES ME HAPPY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP. I HAVE A NOTE HERE. ON THIS, IT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO REPORT BIANNUALLY, IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE -- ACTUALLY, I'M NOT -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I WROTE DOWN ON HERE. NOW I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M NOT SEEING IT. I WROTE PAGE TWO, LINE 12, BUT IT'S NOT LINING UP. >>COUN. ROGERS: I DIDN'T INSTRUCT WE CHANGE THE REPORTING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DO PASS OF O-31. WE ADDED COUNCILOR BACA AS THE CO-SPONSORER. AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. >>COUN. PEÑA: -- AND SECOND FOR DO PASS OF R-29 MADE BY COUNCILOR BACA. AND WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE AMENDMENTS A AND B. R-29. LET ME FIND MINE. IF YOU WANT TO, COUNCILOR ROGERS, GO AHEAD. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE OURS IS ITEM B IN THE PACKET. FOR OUR AWESOME MR. CORNELIUS. AND I JUST HAVE TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU -- >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR ROGERS, REAL QUICK. I THINK WE HAVE -- YOURS IS -- >>COUN. ROGERS: LISTED AS B. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND NOT ONLY WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX BOARD BUT UNIONS AND FIRE AND POLICE UNIONS. TALKED TO CHIEF BARKER, ACS, TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND WE REALLY DID RESEARCH A LOT OF WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TASK BOARD IS SPENT ON. I WANT TO ASK MS. STYLES WHO PREPARED A LITTLE BIT OF A PRESENTATION TO SHARE SOME OF THE RESEARCH. BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED ME COME UP WITH THIS AMENDMENT AFTER I LOOKED AT THE DATA IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I'D LIKE TO GO TO -- I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT AT THE BEGINNING. I APOLOGIZE. IT ACTUALLY IS SETTING UP THE AMENDMENT. IF IT'S ALLOWABLE, I FORGOT TO DO IT WHEN I OPENED. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S OKAY. >>COUN. ROGERS: IT'S STILL APPROPRIATE. I PROMISE. IT LEADS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, THIS IS A QUICK POWERPOINT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE FEATURES OF THIS. THIS JUST TALKS ABOUT THE WORK THAT THE COUNCILOR HAS BEEN DOING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ADVISORY BOARD. AND THAT ULTIMATELY ENDED UP WITH RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE SENSE OF DEDICATION FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. SO THE BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS WERE 34% FOR POLICE, 6% FOR PRISON TRANSPORT, 39% FOR FIRE, 10% FOR HHH. APS 10%. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT 1%. NEXT SLIDE. THIS TALKS ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGE AS IT IS IN THE RESOLUTION. CURRENTLY, 34% GOES TO POLICE. 34% FOR FIRE EMERGENCY. 6% TO CORRECTIONS. AND WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY VOTED UPON BY THE VOTERS BACK IN 2004. THE CHANGE THAT THIS CURRENT RESOLUTION PROPOSES IS 35 TO POLICE, 35 TO EMERGENCY AND FIRE PREPAREDNESS, 5% TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND 25% TO ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY. AND THERE'S ALSO A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH THAT IS IN DOLLARS. AS YOU SEE, IT'S ABOUT $20.3 MILLION FOR POLICE -- BASED ON FY27 FUNDING AND THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED. AND IT WOULD BE 20.3 APPROXIMATELY FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. 2.9 TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND 14.5 TO ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY. TOTALLING A LITTLE BIT OVER $58 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS TAX BROUGHT IN FOR FY27. NEXT SLIDE. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU LEAVE IT ON THAT SLIDE? I JUST NEED TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THIS IS ALSO SHOWING THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGETS THAT ARE BASED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. CURRENTLY, 14% OF AFR'S ENTIRE BUDGET IS MADE UP FROM THIS TAX. 8% FOR APD. 27% FOR HHH. AND 3% FOR YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE. AS IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE RESOLUTION, THESE ARE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL BUDGETS FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT SHOULD THIS RESOLUTION PASS IT WOULD BE 15% OF AFRERS 74% OF ACSs. AND 12% TO PLANNING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT IS IN YOUR iPADS. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF ACS'S ORIGINAL ASK TO THE BOARD. THAT IS THE END OF THE SLIDE SHOW. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU MS. STYLES. CAN YOU PUT UP THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE BEFORE THE ACS MEMO? LOOK ATH -- AT IT THIS WAY -- I WANT TO THANK FIRE UNIUNIFOR BRNG OBVIOUSLY -- GO BACK ONE FOR ME. THANK YOU. BREAKING IT DOWN AND LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE IT WOULD BE FOR A TOTAL OF THE DEPARTMENT'S REVENUE FROM THIS, SEEING 74% OF ACS'S BUDGET WOULD COME FROM THIS, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS PROPOSE. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR ACS AND I'M TRYING TO GET THEM MORE FUNDING. BUT TO SEE IT WOULD BREAK DOWN TO 74% OF THE BUDGET WHERE FOR AFR IT'S ONLY 15%, APD IT'S ONLY 7%. IT CAUSED ME TO RETHINK THE CALCULATIONS WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA IN THIS WAY. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OUR AMENDMENTS. FLOOR AMENDMENT B TO REALLOCATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. THIS IS TAKING IN ALL OF THE CONSIDERATION THAT WE GOT FROM OUR BOARD, FROM OUR UNIONS, DEPARTMENTS, AND WE AGNIZED OVER THIS FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS. THE PROPOSITION WOULD AMEND IT TO SAY, 40% FOR APD. THAT'S PUTTING THE 6% BACK IN THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE INADVERTENTLY TAKEN IT OUT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PRISONER TRANSPORT NEEDS. WE MOVED FROM CORRECTIONS TO PRISONER TRANSPORT. WE DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE OUR CALL TIME BY HAVING OFFICERS HAVING TO CHANGE THAT PROCESS. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT BACK. FIRE, MOVING THEM TO 40% TO KEEP THEM IN LINE WITH APD. WE WOULD ADD ACS AT 15%. 3% FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND 2% FOR ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENTS. I HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BOARD SAID -- I'M SURE THEY'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT THEY SUGGESTED. WE NOT INCLUDE ANIMAL WELFARE JUST YET UNTIL WE HEARD MORE FROM ANIMAL WELFARE. WHAT I HEARD DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE AND ACS AND APD AND AFR WAS THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY DISPATCHING ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS WHICH IS PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY, TO THE CALLS THAT HAVE ANIMALS AS A PART OF THOSE CALLS. THIS AMENDMENT JUST EXPANDS THE PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BACA: MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A QUICK POINT I WANT TO ADD SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE AMENDMENT. RAISING OUR FIREFIGHTERS. IF YOU RECALL MOST OF THE COUNCILORS GOT A COW UPDATE FOR THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE FROM AFR. CHIEF EMILY, IF YOU LIKE TO EXPAND, BUT THEY NEEDED 63 POSITIONS TO COVER OVERTIME. THIS WOULD COVER A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT. HALF OF THAT, I BELIEVE. I DON'T BELIEVE CHIEF EMILY IS LISTENING, BUT THAT'S OKAY. JUST TALK ABOUT THE 40%. THE COW UPDATE THAT WAS SENT OUT DURING BUDGET CYCLE OF THE 63 POSITIONS AND THIS COVERS HALF OF THOSE IF WE RAISE IT TO 40%, CORRECT? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR BACA, I'M SORRY. YES. IT WOULD -- AT THE FIREFIGHTER RANK, IT WOULD COVER ABOUT HALF. IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I SENT OUT DURING THE COW QUESTIONS. BUT AT THE FIREFIGHTER RANK IT WOULD COVER HALF. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, CHIEF. I HOPE THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO STAFF AND GET THIS AMENDMENT PASSED. WE HAVE A VOTER AMENDMENT GOING OUT -- A CHARTER AMENDMENT GOING OUT TO THE VOTERS THIS FALL ELEVATING ACS DIRECTOR TO PAR WITH BOTH CHIEFS OF AFR AND APD. THIS WOULD MAKE THEM AN OFFICIAL PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT. ADDING THEM TO THIS IS A NO-BRAINER. THEY DO GOOD WORK. KUDOS TO THE DIRECTOR ON THE WORK SHE'S DOING. WE'VE SEEN THE SUMMARIES ON ALL THE CALLS THEY'RE TAKING AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. SO, THAT'S A BIG ONE. SECOND THE BUDGET. WE'VE SPENT LOT OF TIME ON THIS BUDGET. ANIMAL WELFARE, THE DIRECTOR IS ON FIRE. SHE MADE A COMPELLING CASE HAVE HAVING ANIMAL WELFARE. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. THOSE GUYS DON'T MAKE FRIENDS WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE. ON ANY DAY. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THAT SMALL ADJUSTMENT. IT'S 20-SOME YEARS SINCE THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE TAX. IT DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING. IT REALLOCATES IN A WAY THAT'S FAIR AND ADDRESSES THE NEEDS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING AND DISCUSSING OVER THE BUDGET. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YOU PRETTY MUCH CLOSED. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-29. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT FAILS ON -- YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE ME THE NUMBER ON THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. -- I WAS A NO. I'M SORRY. I'M RAISING MY HAND EVERY TIME I'M ASKING FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION FAILS ON A 4-5. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 1 O'CLOCK. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 1 O'CLOCK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1. NOW, WE ARE -- R-29. WE HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. THIS IS LABELED A IN YOUR PACKET. THIS IS COUNCILOR GROUT. THIS WILL BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO -- NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH IT. I GUESS I CAN. IT CHANGES THE PERCENTAGES. I GOT THESE NUMBERS DIRECTLY FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ADVISORY BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION. THEY HAVE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. FOR A COUPLE YEARS SINCE WE GOT IT GOING AGAIN. SO, WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION, I JUST MIRRORED THOSE NUMBERS. TO CHANGE IT TO POLICE TO BE 34%, WHICH IT IS NOW. PRISONER TRANSPORT 6%. WHICH THEY EXPLAINED WHY WE NEEDED THAT. FIRE AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, UP TO 39%. AGAIN, THAT WILL HELP WITH THE FIRE NEEDS. CODE ENFORCEMENT AT 1%. ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY AT 10%. AND HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AT 10%. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT -- LET ME FINISH. THIS AMENDMENT EXPANDS THE PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX DEDICATED TO INCLUDE TRIPLE H AND PRISONER TRANSPORT AS ELIGIBLE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTIONS. THE AMENDMENT ALSO CHANGES THE DEDICATION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE. AND THERE'S INFORMATION. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT NOT INCLUDING TRIPLE-H. I SHARE THEIR CONCERN. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS ONE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WITH -- I CAN HEAR REPRESENTATIVES FROM APD AND AFR SAYING CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IS PUBLIC SAFETY. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT? SOMEBODY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE CURRENT ALLOCATION HAS HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS RECEIVING AN ALLOCATION. I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OUTLINED IN TERMS OF FOCUSED ON PREVENTION. CRIME PREVENTION WAS THE DEZINATESED -- DESIGNATED AREA FOR PROGRAMS IN HHH THAT ARE FOCUSED IN THAT WAY. I THINK OUR ITEM -- I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OUR CHIEF, BUT I THINK YOUR CHIEF WOULD SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO CRIME PREVENTION WHICH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS FORMALIZING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE AND UTILIING THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX BECAUSE HHH IS ALREADY GETTING IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, YES. I CAN'T TALK -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE NUMBER, MADAM CAO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INITIATING SOMETHING BRAND NEW. I THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT WILL ASK. I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE WITH THE EFFORTS BEING DONE. JUST TO CLARIFY -- I COULD HAVE MISHEARD IT OR MISSED IT ALTOGETHER, BUT IT DOES SAY 1% FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN THE DESCRIPTION BEING DONE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: YEAH. OKAY. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WE POURED OVER WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS USES FOR THIS FUNDING. $6 MILLION IS FOR GATEWAY. I'VE HEARD THIS BODY TALK LOT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE PULLING FROM. I KNOW IT'S A SHELL GAME. I'M LEARNING THAT WE PULL THINGS FROM DIFFERENT PLACES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. THIS WOULDN'T DEFUND THE GATEWAY BY MAKING THIS CHANGE. I DO NOT AGREE THAT HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SHOULD BE NAMED UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX. I THINK WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING ANY OF THE PROGRAMS. IT WOULD BE THAT THEY TAKE IT FROM A DIFFERENT PLACE. BECAUSE PERSONALLY -- I HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY ACS IS NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. WE CONTINUE TO ADD THINGS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE JUST ADDED MORE WORK FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT WE NEVER FUND THEM. THE REASON I REALLY FELT STRONGLY ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY IS WE HAVE A LOT OF -- WE HAVE OVER 300 ABANDONED HOMES. THEY ONLY HAVE 300 DAYS TO BOARD UP HOMES AND IN MY DISTRICT ABANDONED HOMES AND BUSINESSES ARE A PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHT MARE. 1%, I NEED EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 1% MEANS IN DOLLARS. $590,000 PER PERCENTAGE. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE ONLY VALUE CODE ENFORCEMENT AT 1%, WHICH IS $590,000 ADDED TO THEIR BUDGET TO DO THE DEMOLITIONS AND THE HARD WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE CITY AROUND ABANDONED AND DILAPIDATED HOMES. FOR ME, I WOULD JUST ASK FOR MORE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT REASON. BECAUSE IT'S JUST A HUGE NEED THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHTMARE, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ASKING FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. CAN YOU PUT THE AMENDMENT UP ONE MORE TIME? WE'RE PASSED THAT -- ARE WE ON THE AMENDMENT? WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE ACTUALLY ON THE AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR GROUT WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING RELATED TO YOUR FIRST SET OF COMMENTS. >>COUN. GROUT: MAY I -- MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. PASCAL -- I KNOW YOU SERVE ON THE BOARD. I TOOK THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE HAVE -- WE NEED TO BE LISTENING TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO, HOW DID YOU ALL COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS? WHAT DID YOU DISCUSS? >> OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ADDED A -- WE MET A WEEK OR TWO AGO. WE INITIALLY SAW AN EARLIER VERSION OF THE RESOLUTION. WE THOUGHT WE HAD SOME CONCERNS, SPECIFIC CONCERNS, ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS. AND SO, WE MET AND HAD A DISCUSSION FIRST IN TERMS OF WHAT DO WE THINK THE PERCENTAGES WOULD BE. AND THEN, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES. AND THE CONCERNS WERE NOT WANTING TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM POLICE. NOT TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM FIRE. SO WE ENDED UP ADDING MONEY TO FIRE. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANIMAL WELFARE. WE WEREN'T COMFORTABLE PUTTING LARGE PORTIONS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX TOWARD THOSE ORGANIZATIONS UNTIL WE HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR ROLE WAS. AND THEIR IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. WE LOOKED AT THE CRIME PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION PORTION OF THE BUDGET THAT TODAY GOES TO YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES AND HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, AND IN THE INTEREST OF CRIME PREVENTION, WE SAW THAT HHH STILL HAS A ROLE. WE WEREN'T READY TO ZERO THAT OUT. WE THOUGHT -- OKAY, HHH IS COMPLICATED. I HAVE TO TELL YOU. THERE'S LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THEY'RE DOING. IT'S LARGELY CONTRACTED OUT. AND THERE'S LOT OF -- WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT. WE WANTED TO NOT ZERO OUT HHH. ALSO I'VE SEEN THIS WHEN I WAS IN GOVERNMENT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IF YOU THROW A GIANT BUCKET OF MONEY AT A SMALL ORGANIZATION THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO USE IT EFFECTIVELY. YOU MAY NEED TO RAMP UP THE MONEY. SO WE WEREN'T READY TO TAKE A HUGE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX AND JUST GIVE IT TO ACS BECAUSE OF ABSORPTION IS WHAT WE CALLED IT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHICH IS CAN THEY REALLY USE THE MONEY WE'RE GIVING THEM? WE WANTED TO HAVE AN INTERMEDIATE STEP WHERE WE GIVE THEM A BUNCH OF MONEY NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING PUBLIC SAFETY WORK AND IT'S REASONABLE TO GIVE ACS A SIZABLE CHUNK OF THE MONEY, WE JUST FELT LIKE 10% WAS ABOUT RIGHT. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR GROUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE? >>COUN. BASSAN: CAN WE -- CAN I FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON FIRE AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS? I FEEL IT'S REDUNDANT. DON'T THEY DO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ON ALL ASPECTS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I RAISE THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AT THE TIME IN 2004 WHEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX WAS PASSED, IN THE CITY'S MANAGEMENT -- EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WAS A DIVISION WITHIN AFR. I THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT WORD. SINCE THEN, WE MADE IT OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WITHIN THE CITY. AND WE HAVE MOVED IT OUT INDEPENDENTLY AND NOW MOST RECENTLY WE HAVE MOVED IT WITHIN THE OPERATIONS OF APD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE FOR CONSOLIDATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PORTION NEXT TO FIRE MIGHT BE NO LONGER RELEVANT. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY INTENT IN TERMS OF THE INTENT OF THE FUNDING GOING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT IT PREVENTS ANY AMBIGUITY RELATED TO THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. AT THE TIME IT WAS PASSED, BEING SOMETHING THAT WAS WITHIN AFR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT ONE TO AMENDMENT TWO TO DELETE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IN BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. TO DELETE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ON BOTH SECTIONS. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FIRST. I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER THE HISTORY ON THIS. I THINK IT PASSED IN 2004. AND WE ALLOWED NOT TO SUNSET IN 2012 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO, IT WAS 14. IT WAS A TEN-YEAR, RIGHT? 2014. I THINK I WAS HERE. IF IT'S 12, I WASN'T HERE. WAS IT 14? I'M TRYING TO RECALL. I'M JUST TRYING TO RECALL. AT THE TIME, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. I REMEMBER ARGUING -- I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE 26% FOR CRIME PREVENTION ANDMERT VENTION GOING AWAY. ONLY BECAUSE AT THAT TIME MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, AND IT WAS THEN IN 2014, CRIME PREVENTION -- WE HAD DISCUSSION AND WAS TOLD SOME COUNCILORS WOULDN'T SUPPORT, BUT AT THE TIME I BELIEVED THAT CRIME PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION -- IT WAS CHANGED TO CRIME PREVENTION BECAUSE WHAT I WANTED TO PUT WAS CRIME PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. PUBLIC SAFETY ISN'T JUST ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE AND HOMELESS AND HOUSING. AND FOR ME, WE EVEN PASSED A RESOLUTION TO REALLY DO SOME MORE THINGS FOR YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. I REALLY LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE PUBLIC SAFETY MONEY TO CREATE AVENUES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. WITH THAT, EVEN THOUGH I'M BUMMED, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. TO SAY, THIS PROPOSITION -- THOSE GOES TO BOTH SECTIONS. I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE FIRST ONE. THIS PROPOSITION WOULD AMEND THE CITY'S GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TO DEDICATE FUNDS TO THE POLLING USES. POLICE, FOLLOWING USES. POLICE, PROPOSED BACK TO THE 35. AND THEN PRISONER TRANSPORT WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IS DELETED AS THROUGH THE OTHER AMENDMENT. BUT THEN PUT FIRE, RATHER THAN 39, TO 38. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO 5%. ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY TO 6%. AND LEAVE HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ALONE AT THE 10% THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED, AS LONG AS THE MATH WORKS OUT, THAT'S REFLECTED IN BOTH SECTIONS. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND. MR. PADILLA LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO TELL ME SOMETHING. >> WE NEED TO GET THIS DOWN PROPERLY BECAUSE IT'S GOING ON THE BALLOT. WE'RE WORKING ON IT JUST TO BE SURE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR GROUT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT ONE MORE TIME? OKAY. THIS PROPOSITION WOULD AMEND THE CITY'S EXISTING PUBLIC SAFETY GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TO DEDICATE FUNDS TO THE FOLLOWING USES, POLICE, 35%. PRIZ PRISONER TRANSPORT, 6%. FIRE WOULD GO DOWN 1% TO 38%. CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE 5%. IT WOULD GO FROM 1 TO 5%. ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY GOES FROM 10% TO 6%. AND HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS REMAINS THE SAME AT 10%. THAT'S FOR BOTH SECTIONS. THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR GROUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF WE'RE PROPOSING THE ACS DIRECTSER A CHIEF. THIS SEEMS ODD WE'RE GIVING HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS MORE THAN ACS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ITSELF. IN THAT CASE, WHY AREN'T WE GIVING -- DON'T GET ME DIRECTORS -- LIKE SENIOR AFFAIRS MORE MONEY. IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY TAX, I'M NOT SAYING HHH DOESN'T MAYBE DESERVE IT OR NEED IT OR AREN'T ALREADY GIVING THEM SOME. HOW ARE WE GIVING THEM MORE THAN ACS IF THAT'S THE CASE? >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BASSAN, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR ROGERS. I JUST THINK MORE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. I THINK THEY JUST DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. THAT'S ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I THINK IS WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES THEY HAVE ARE SO RESPONSIVE. THAT WAS MY WAY OF ENSURING TO CUT POLICE AND FIRE AND POLICE TRANSPORT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MATH OR IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND INCREASE COMMUNITY SAFETY, THAT'S UP TO TO YOU. I'LL STICK TO THE AMENDMENT AS IS. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. WE LOOKED AT THOSE LINES WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX BOARD. WE'RE NOT CUTTING THOSE THINGS. ALL WE WOULD DO IS RFP FOR PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION WILL GO UNDER ACS. AND THEY HAVE THE SCORE -- SCHOOL BASED VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAMS. WE'RE NOT CUTTING THOSE PROGRAMS. WE'RE MOVING THE MONEY TO ACS THAT PUT OUT THE SAME RFP. EVERYTHING WE'RE SEEING IN HHH, WE NEED TO FREE THEM UP. THEY'RE MANAGING A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND CONTRACTS. THIS WOULD HELP FREE THEM TO DO MORE OF THE DEEP WORK WE NEED THEM TO DO WITH VOUCHERS AND HOUSING MONEY THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING. I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS WE'RE CUTTING. WE'RE MOVING FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER. THE AFP STILL GO OUT. WE CAN STILL SUPPORT THE YDI, JUST UNDER ACS. I WOULD BE OPEN TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO SAKE SOME FROM HH AND PUT IT BACK IN ACS, KNOWING WE WOULDN'T BE CUTTING THOSE THINGS. THE RFP COME OUT OF A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND THOSE SAME PROVIDERS WOULD JUST APPLY UNDER A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE JUST DOING THE NUMBERS ON THE FLY. YES, I'M OPEN TO CHANGES. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- I WANT TO HEAR WHAT VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE HAS TO TELL ME. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THE NUMBERS WORK OUT. THEY DID. OKAY. IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE CAN ADD MORE TO ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY IF WE REDUCED CODE ENFORCEMENT -- NO? >>COUN. GROUT: HHH. >>COUN. PEÑA: EIGHT AND EIGHT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT GETS US CLOSER TO WHAT WE -- A GOOD DEDICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT WOULD BE THE AMENDMENT. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN IS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST -- THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS 35% TO -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. POLICE, 35, FIRE 28, CODE ENFORCEMENT 5, A KRRBG C ACS, 8, HHH8 AND PRISONER TRANSPORT 6. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MS. COULLOUDON, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THAT OUT ONE MORE TIME? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST ABOUT GOT IT. I JUST NEED ANOTHER 30 SECONDS TO TYPE UP THE MOST RECENT CHANGE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX BOARD. THEY'RE TROOPERS GOING THROUGH THIS WITH US. EVEN SOME MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE TIMELINE. I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE TIME THAN WE ACTUALLY DID. THEY WERE SO GRACIOUS. AND REALLY ADAPTING TO THE CHANGING TIMELINES. I'M SO GRATEFUL TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP. THIS IS A GOOD EXERCISE. EVEN IF WE DON'T ALL AGREE, WE CAN GET THERE TOGETHER BY DISCUSSING AND COMPROMISING AND FIGURING IT OUT AS A TEAM. I'M SO GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AGAIN, AS COUNCILOR BASSAN JUST STATED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE GET THIS RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S GOING ON THE BALLOT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. I'D LIKE TO WISH MY SON ETHAN HIS HAPPY BIRTH DAY. HE TURNED 18 TWENTY MINUTES AGO. >>COUN. PEÑA: HAPPY BIRTH DAY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US THIS IS GOING TO THE VOTERS. THIS DOES NOT INCREASE THE TAX. VERY IMPORTANT FOR VOTERS TO KNOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M GOING TO READ IT. I THINK WE HAVE IT. YOU SHOULD READ IT SO WE MAKE SURE WE GET THIS 100% RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'LL DO MY BEST TO READ IT OUT. THE AMENDMENT ON THE SCREEN WOULD READ, THIS PROPOSITION WOULD AMEND THE CITY'S EXISTING PUBLIC SAFETY GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TO DEDICATE FUNDS TO THE FOLLOWING USES. POLICE-35%. PRSONER TRANSPOR 6%. FIRE-38%. CODE ENFORCEMENT-5%. ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY-8%. HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS-8%. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. THAT GOES FOR BOTH SECTIONS. I THINK WE DID IT. I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON AMENDMENT NUMBER -- YEAH. THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT TWICE OVER. THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSE, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. EVEN CAO SENGEL IS STRESSED OUT. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON COUNCILOR GROUT'S AMENDMENT AS AMENDED TWICE. AND IT WAS SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, AS AMENDED TWICE? RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE YOU SURE? OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. CORNELIUS, CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST UP IS DEBRA FOLLOWED BY KENNETH. KENNETH FOLLOWED BY MIGUEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I THINK YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ME FROM SPEAKING RECENTLY. YEAH, OKAY. IT'S LATE. I'M TRYING TO GAGE WHERE MY BRAIN IS SUPPOSED TO BE RIGHT NOW. SO, THE MOTION AT THIS POINT -- YEAH. OKAY. PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD WAS -- LET ME REITERATE WE NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED ANYTHING IN ANY OF OUR MEETINGS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS NOT AN AREA WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH. WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE EXACT ROLE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WHY THEY'RE NOW BEING GIVEN A 5% SHARE. MAYBE THAT IS THE BEST IDEA EVER. I'M NOT IN A PASSION TO SAY THAT WE ALL AGREED WITH THAT. I'M OUT OF TIME. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >> MIGUEL FOLLOWED BY LAN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. I REPRESENT 700 FIREFIGHTERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I WANT TO START WITH GRATITUDE. THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING UP LATE. HAPPY BIRTH DAY TO YOUR SON. GRATITUDE FOR NOT ONLY ALL OF YOU DOING THIS -- THE PEOPLE'S WORK. FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WORKING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE 179 ON A DAILY BASIS WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR. I WANT TO COME BACK TO GRATITUDE FOR TO THEM THAT VOTED FOR THIS IN 2003 FOR INVESTING IN PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS INVESTMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL POSSIBLE. AND EVERY DEPARTMENT DISCUSSED. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS. I LEARNED LOT ABOUT HOW FAR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX GOES. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE ADAPTATION FIRE HAS DONE COUNTLESS TIMES OVER THE YEARS. I THINK IT'S GOOD WE'RE EXERCISING THIS ADAPTATION IN PUBLIC SAFETY TO INCLUDE ACKNOWLEDGE JODY AND ACS AND THAT MISSION. AND ADAPTING WHAT WE DO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M DISAPPOINTED WE GOT DOWN TO 38, BUT IT'S ABOUT 21 HAD -- POSITIONS. WE NEED 63 TO GET TO A HEALTHY FACTOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S WORK AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> LAN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE -- >>COUN. GROUT: WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE CITY LIMITS. PERSONS WHO FAIL TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION SHALL BE CHARGED THE RATE FOR PERSONS OR BUSINESSES LOCATED OUTSIDE ALBUQUERQUE CITY LIMITS. THE EXPLANATION FOR THIS AMENDMENT ESTABLISHES A VERIFICATION REQUIREMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES SEEKING TO RECEIVE THE CONVENIENT FEE DISPOSAL RATE APPLICABLE TO ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES LOCATED WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE CITY LIMITS. THE AMENDMENT REQUIRES USERS TO PROVIDE A UTILITY BILL OR VERIFICATION -- GOVERNMENT I. D. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO O-35. IS THERE -- COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I DO SUPPORT THIS BILL. SOLID WASTE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THE COST OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM ARE SUBSIDIZED BY CITIZENS FEES. WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING THE FEES -- IT COSTS US ALL. WHEN THAT BECOMES BURDENSOME WE HAVE TO RECOVER THE COSTS SOMEHOW. THIS INCREASE CENTER FEES FOR MON-RESIDENTS. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ASKING FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY. THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS FOR. MAY I ASK COO WHELAN TO DISCUSS THE BILL A LITTLE BIT AND TELL US ABOUT IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THIS BILL IS JUST TO RECOVER SOME OF THE COST OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS BASED ON COST OF SERVICE FOR EACH LOAD TAKEN TO ONE OF THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS. WE CHARGE $5 PLUS TAX PER LOAD. AS OF THE RECENT COST OF SERVICE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER $24 PER LOAD. $19 IS SUBSIDIZED BY RATE PAYERS. AND $5 IS COVERED BY THE ACTUAL PERSON OR PEOPLE BRINGING THINGS TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. SOLID WASTE DOES GREAT THINGS FOR US. THEY PICK UP OUR TRASH ALL THE TIME. RECYCLING. AND THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR MEDIANS. AND THEY TAKE CARE OF GRAFFITI. THEY PICK UP LARGE ITEMS. THAT'S PRETTY COOL. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR THAT. CLEAN CITIES, THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT SOLID WASTE'S RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE. BECAUSE THEY'RE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THEY CAN'T -- THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STAYING WITHIN THEIR MEANS. IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT. THEY ALSO HAVE TO BUY EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THOSE THINGS. SO, WHEN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS GO AND SPEND $5 TO EMPTY THEIR TRASH, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY THAT USE IT. SO, $10 -- YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWICE A YEAR, THAT'S NOT MUCH. IT ADDS UP. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. SO, I THINK IF YOU JUST ASK FOR A ZIP CODE YOU LIVE IN, PRETTY SOON THEY'LL GET WISE TO KNOW WHICH ZIP CODE TO SAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? CAO SENGEL. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED. WE AGREE PROOF OF ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENCY IS IMPORTANT. WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT AND WONDERING IF THIS WILL CREATE A BURDEN FOR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'LL NOT HAVE REMEMBERED TO BRING UTILITY BILL AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE CREATING -- WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF ADDRESS ON DRIVER'S LICENSE CAN BE EXPEDIENT? I'M TRYING TO NOT SLOW DOWN THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS. THAT WAS ALL OUR PERPLEXED LOOK. WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THE I.D. IS IN THERE. THE GOVERNMENT I. D. YOU CAN BRING -- WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MY HUSBAND ABOUT THIS, HE SAID PEOPLE NEED TO BRING UTILITY BILLS. I SAID, JIM, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE HAVE THEIR UTILITY BILLS WITH THEM. ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THEY WILL. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN I. D. ARE WE GOOD? >> YES. THANK YOU, I JUST NEEDED TO READ FURTHER IN THE SENTENCE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. DID YOU MAKE THE SECOND? THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO O-35. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. NOW, WARE BACK ON O-35 AS AMENDED. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO END -- SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK THE ADMIN KAEGS -- SOLID WASTE IS ANOTHER GREAT DEPARTMENT. SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU DO IS MORE COMPLEX THAN WHAT PEOPLE DO. YOU OPERATE 365 DAYS A YEAR. BERNALILLO COUNTY, ARE THEY GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO PAY THE HIGHER RATE? LET ME ASK YOU WHY? LET ME TELL YOU WHY AND WHY I'M CONFUSED AND CONCERNED. BECAUSE WE RESIDE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY, THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA TO PAY HIGHER FEE IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN IT? IF IT IS INCLUDED IN IT, IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE PRIMARILY THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS SOUTH VALLEY. WHICH IF YOU LIVE IN THE SOUTH VALLEY YOUR ADDRESS IS 123 ISLETA, ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. AND I REALLY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE POOREST PEOPLE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY HAVING TO FOOT THAT EXTRA FEE. MR. WHELAN -- >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YES. THE ISSUE IS IF THEY WERE -- THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE RESIDENCY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THEY DON'T PAY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THEY ARE CHARGED A SOLID WASTE FEE WHICH IS HIGHER THAN OUR FEE. BY WASTE MANAGEMENT. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY OF THAT REVENUE. THEY ALREADY ARE HAVING TO PAY THAT AMOUNT. THAT REVENUE IS GOING TO ANOTHER COMPANY THAT IS PICKING UP THEIR TRASH ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND THEY'RE RECYCLING ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS. THEY'RE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO ARE PAYING OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. FOR US, IT'S A MINIMAL COST FOR THEM -- AN EXTRA $12 OR -- I'M SORRY, $7. THEY WOULD PAY $5 IF THEY ATTEND OUR CONVENIENCE CENTER. THAT EXTRA $7 WE HAVE TO RECOUP. THAT. THAT EXTRA MONEY IS GOING TO ANOTHER ENTERPRISE FUND. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. WHELAN, WHAT DO THEY PAY TO WASTE MANAGEMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER 21 OR $22. IT COULD BE A MONTH. FOR THEIR WEEKLY TRASH AND BIWEEKLY RECYCLING. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. NOT NECESSARILY GERMANE TO THIS BILL, BUT I KNOW APS HAS WASTE MANAGEMENT AS THEIR COLLECTIONS, BUT BY CHARTER WE ARE THE ONES SUPPOSED TO BE PICKING UP THEIR TRASH AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S REVENUE LOST FOR US. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST. I KNOW THAT SANTA FE WENT THROUGH THIS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE SAME SITUATION. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE SHOULD NEED TO ADDRESS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILOR GROUT. DID WE AMEND IT? WE AMENDED IT ALREADY. WITH THAT, THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCILORS, I'LL MOVE DEFERRAL TO AUGUST 3rd. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR TELLES. TO AUGUST 3rd OF O-35. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE IT'S P-2. ADOPTING FROMIZATION TO BE SENT TO THE VOTERS PROPOSING AMEND ARTICLE FIVE REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK. I MOVE FOR DO PASS AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR A DO PASS OF P-2. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MAY WHERE -- MAY I OPEN? >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THIS PROPOSES TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY CHARTER AMENDMENT QUESTION TO THE VOTERS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. BE HELD NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026. THE AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER PROPOSES THE COUNCIL MUST BE APPROVED BY THE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY OFT ALL THE COUNCILORS PLUS ONE. THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES COUNCIL TO HOLD TWO HEARINGS. THE FIRST WAS ON MAY 18th, SECOND ONE IS TODAY. IT'S BASICALLY GOING IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS TO CHANGE THE CITY CHARTER OF HOW THE CITY ATTORNEY IS APPOINTED AND HOW IT'S REMOVED. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. MY INTENT TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE MOVED FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL NEXT MEETING ON JUNE 15th. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR OUR ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT. MS. COULLOUDON, EITHER YOU OR WHOEVER CAN BEST ANSWER THIS. WHAT'S THE CURRENT HIRING PROCESS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE HIRING PROCESS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS OUTLINED IN THE CITY CHARTER. THE CITY ATTORNEY IS SELECTED AND APPOINTED THROUGH AN OPEN AND COMPETITIVE HIRING PROCESS CONDUCTED BY THE MAYOR. AND THE APPOINTMENT IS APPROVED WITH ADVIESZ -- ADVICE AND CONSENT OF TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SAYING IT'S AN IRING PROCESS FOR THE . >>COUN. CHAMPINE: CAN IT THE MAYOR FIRE THE CITY ATTORNEY AT ANY TIME? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, NO. THE CHARTER COVERS REMOVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL AND SAYS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN ONLY BE REMOVED FOR CAUSE BY THE MAYOR WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF TWO-THIRDS OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE COUNCIL. AND CAUSE MUST BE DETERMINED BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT AND INVESTIGATION WHICH IS NOW THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. COULLOUDON, THERE HAS TO BE A PROCESS OF AN INVESTIGATION AND THE MAYOR HAS TO SUBMIT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT WITH THE MAYOR'S APPROVAL? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YES. REMOVAL REQUIRES BOTH THE MAYOR AND TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, IS THERE A PROCESS TO -- IF WE'RE ABLE TO REMOVE THE CITY ATTORNEY FROM THE COUNCIL'S SIDE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IT WOULD BE THE SAME PROCESS. THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A FINDING OF CAUSE AND TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL PLUS THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY LIKE WE HAVE AN INTERIM ATTORNEY, IS THAT THE SAME PROCESS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE CHARTER IS SILENT. IT DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN INTERIM AND APPOINTED CITY ATTORNEY REMOVAL PROCESS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING OUTLINED IN THE CHARTERER. SDMRCH SO THAT WOULD GO . >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO THAT WOULD GO TO SAY IF THERE'S AN INTERIM ATTORNEY, THEY COULD BE INDEFINITELY THERE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, POTENTIALLY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MS. COULLOUDON. THE REASON WHY -- THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY THAT BROUGHT UP THESE IDEAS THAT THERE ISN'T A CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY -- AGAIN, THIS IS ONGOING INVESTIGATION. IT PRESENTED AN ISSUE THAT THERE ISN'T TRUE INDEPENDENCE WITH THIS. I'M HOPING THAT THIS DOES PRESENT -- IF WE CAN CHANGE IT SO IT DOES PRESENT A TRUE BALANCE TO THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS? IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE FRANCESCO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> TO PREVENT TYRANNY, BETTER KNOWN AS NO KINGS, THERE'S A CRITICAL REASON WHY OUT OF THE THOUSANDS OF CITY JOBS MAYOR KELLER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHARTER MANDATES APPROVAL FROM A THIRD PARTY IN THE FORM OF CITY COUNCIL. FOR THE CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, AND CAO. A FANCY PHRASE FOR IT IS HOLDING THE PURSE STRINGS. YOU CAN DO TWO-THIRDS THIS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CUT OFF THE MONEY TRAIN. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING REALLY BAD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP PAYING THEM TO KEEP DOING THE BAD STUFF. YOU HOLD THE PURSE STRINGS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IF THEY SIT HERE, LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND SAID I'M NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED, AND YOU FIND OUT BY ACCIDENT THEY'RE STABBING YOU IN THE BACK TOTALLY INVOLVED. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, NOPE. GET THE BLANK OUT. NO QUESTIONS. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES. IT'S A QUARTER TO ONE RIGHT NOW. MS. COULLOUDON, IS THERE A DEADLINE TO -- FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO BE SENT DOWN FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, NO. THE CHARTER DOES NOT IMPOSE A DEADLINE FOR THE MAYOR TO SEND DOWN A PROPOSED APPOINTMENT TO THE POSITION OF CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY CLERK. IN CONTRAST TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER FOR OTHER MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS LIKE THE CAO, DEPUTY CAO, CHIEF OF POLICE, AND FIRE CHIEF, WHICH SPECIFICALLY ARE LIMITED TO SERVING IN AN INTERIM ROLE FOR NO GREATER THAN 270 DAYS. THAT TYPE OF PROVISION IS ABSENT FOR CITY ATTORNEY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. COULLOUDON, AN INTERIM CITY CLERK OR CITY ATTORNEY CAN BE INDEFINITELY THEN? >> YES. CORRECT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT'S ENOUGH FOR MY CLOSING -- OR MOW MY IF YOU WANT ME TO CLOSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AGAIN, THE IDEA OF THIS IS THERE IS ISSUES THAT CAME UP AND PRESENTED THE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED AND ADJUSTMENTED IN IMPROVING OF WHAT CITY GOVERNMENT IS. WE DID THIS FOR THE POLICE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF AND A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS CAME UP WHERE WE SAW SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED OR ADDRESSED WITHIN IT THE CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY. THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT THIS IS. IT'S TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MAKE IT A BETTER GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE. WITH THAT, I MOVE FOR DEFERRAL TO JUNE 15th. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR DEFERRAL OF P-2 TO JUNE 15th CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THAT GOES FOR R-30. THIS IS THE COMPANION BILL. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL AS SAME WITH THE COMPANION OF P-2. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE HAVE TO MOVE THE BILL FIRST. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE HAVE TO OPEN IT? I MOVE FOR DO PASS ON R-26-30. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DO PASS OF R-30. VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS A COMPANION BILL TO THE P BILL AS SET BEFORE. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL TO THE JUNE 15th MEETING OF R-30, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THIS NEXT ONE -- THIS IS R-22, ESTABLISHING A CRUISERS FOR ROUTE 66 PROGRAM ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE TO CELEBRATE THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL SUPPORT COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP. I MOVE DO PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND TWO SECONDS FROM COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR TELLES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT. AND THE FLOOR AMENDMENT IS -- THIS IS LABELED A IN YOUR PACKET. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS AMENDMENT ADDRESSES INSTANCES OF WHICH PARTICIPANTS ADOPT SEGMENTS OF CENTRAL THAT STRETCH ACROSS MULTIPLE DISTRICTS TO ENSURE PURCHASING RECOGNITION SIGNAGE IS SHARED FAIRLY AMONG COUNCILORS. IN SOME INITANCES WE HAVE SIGNAGE IN ONE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND SOME ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS ONE DISTRICT AND ONE IS THE OTHER. THAT'S JUST A CARRIFY CLAR CLARIFYING PURPOSE. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: NO QUESTIONS. I SUPPORT THE BILL AS A WHOLE. THIS AMENDMENT, SPREADING THE COST ACROSS DISTRICTS -- DISTRICTS ARE NOT THE SAME. SOME DISTRICTS HAVE MORE EXPENSES THAN OTHER. SIGNAGE IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. THERE'S NO SIGNAGE DOWNTOWN. I PERSONALLY HAVE PRIORITIZED OTHER AREAS OF CENTRAL. HAVING TO DO AN ENTIRE THING IS EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISTRICTS. I DON'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BACA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. IT WOULDN'T BE ACROSS ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS. IT WOULD BE WHEN IT'S ON YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT. IT WOULDN'T BE THE ENTIRE SHARED AMONG COUNCILORS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT ISN'T CLEAR ENOUGH ON HERE. OR IF IT ISN'T? >>COUN. BACA: MY APOLOGIES, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED CLARIFYING LANGUAGE, MR. HERTZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, EARLIER, IF YOU SEE IN THE ORIGINAL BILL THERE'S ACTUALLY LANGUAGE RELATED TO FUNDING FOR SIGNAGE IS TIED TO THE DISTRICT. THIS IS BEFORE THE AMENDMENT. ANY TIME THERE'S A SIGN IN A SPECIFIC DISTRICT, THE FUNDING WITH WOULD COME FROM THAT PARTICULAR COUNCILOR. THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR -- LET'S SAY THERE'S A MEDIAN THAT STRETCHES ACROSS TWO COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AND THERE'S A CLUB THAT WANTS TO HAVE A MEDIAN SIGN BUT THEY'RE ADOPTING A MEDIAN THAT -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY RARE OCCURRENCE THAT HAPPENS. JUST SAYING THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPLIT UP ACROSS THE TWO DISTRICTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: IT WOULD REDUCE YOUR COST. THE WAY WE PASSED IT ALREADY, THE WAY IT READS IS WE PAY FOR IT IF IT'S IN OUR DISTRICT. IF IT CROSSES TWO COUNCIL DISTRICTS, THEN WE SPLIT THE COST. IT'S A COST SAVINGS. IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PROGRAM SUMMARY BECAUSE I THINK ORIGINALLY WHEN I WAS ASKED TO CO-SPONSOR IT DIDN'T HAVE PRICES AND IT WAS HARD TO SAY YES. LOOKING AT THE PRICES FOR -- LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SIGN. BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY MANAGEABLE. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THAT WAS MR. HERTZ. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. NO, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON -- WHERE AM I? R-22 AS AMENDED. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'LL CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT, UNLESS COUNCILOR GROUT OR COUNCILOR TELLES WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF R-22 AS AMENDED, SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON R-33. COUNCILOR GROUT BY REQUEST. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-33 IS AMENDING THE ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS SUPPLEMENTING CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS AND CHANGING THE SCOPE OF EXISTING PROJECTS. I MOVE DO PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT FOR DO PASS OF R-33. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THIS IS THE STANDARD CLEAN UP BILL. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS WALKED THROUGH OF HOW THIS IS REALLOCATED. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR GROUT, THIS IS OUR STANDARD PAYMENT BILL. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF INTEREST IS BEING MOVED TO PROJECTS. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TRANSPORTATION TAX AS WELL AS BIO PARK TAX GOING INTO MOSTLY -- PROJECTS ARE ALREADY IN THERE. THEIRS IS A CLEANUP AT THE END FOR 265. JUST FOR SOME OLD GRANTS. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION HONEST THE SPECIFIC PROJECT? >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. THIS IS LABELED A IN YOUR PACKET. IT'S FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR THE WEST GATE COMMUNITY CENTER GO BOND. IT JUST EXPANDED FOR PARKS IN THE AREA. BUT THE WEST GATE COMMUNITY CENTER IS IN ITS FINAL PHASE. THIS STRIKES THE CHANGES TO THE WEST GATE COMMUNITY CENTER. GO BOND SCOPE. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE -- ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I'LL CLOSE. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. NO, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OR 8-0. WHATEVER ONE. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC SPEAKERS TONIGHT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. ANYONE HAVING ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF R-33 AS AMENDED, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. R-37. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. PEÑA: ONE SECOND. FOR ANYONE THAT DIDN'T HEAR THAT, COUNCILOR TELLES IS RECUSING HERSELF PROM FROM R-37. BEFORE WE GO TO R-37, VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 1:15. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL SECOND THAT. THERE'S A MOTION EXTEND THE MEETING TO 1:15. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: R-26-37 IS ADJUSTING FISC YEAR OPERATION FUNDS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS AND RESCINDING R-26-36. MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR R-37 BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO OPEN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING ON THIS. WE'RE ADJUSTING FISCAL DEALS. THE BILL IS TO ADDRESS FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS OF $280,000. THE FUNDS GOING TO BANDS OF ENCHANTMENT ROUTE 66 AND INTERNATIONAL PIANO COMPETITION. IT'S SUPPORTED THROUGH THE TRANSFER OF LODGER'S TAX FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATED TO ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT. HE IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT -- SECOND TIME WE'RE HEARING IT BASED ON THE REGULATIONS OF WHAT WE DO. IT WAS AMENDED AND PASSED 7-1 ON MAY 18. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE DO NOT? VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. PEÑA: URGE . >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URMING . >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR OTHER. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES -- THERE'S A NO? 7-1. IF YOU CAN CALL COUNCILOR TELLES TO COME BACK IN. COUNCILOR ROGERS. R-38. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-38 APPROPRIATING FUNDS WITHIN FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING BUDGET TO SUPPORT JUNETEENTH ACTIVITIES AND RESCINDING R-26-31. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR R-38. NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SAME THING. THIS IS SECOND HEARING. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE I NEED TO SPEND IT BY JUNE 30th. >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON R-40. APPROING AND AUTHORIZING UTILIZING $140,000 FROM FUND 265 RAPID REHOUSING TO SUPPORT CONTINUING HOUSING FOR 31 HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH THE HEADING HOME SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK MY QUESTION IS FOR EITHER OUR STAFF OR THE ADMINISTRATION. WE JUST DID THIS FOR -- TO PROTECT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS FOR HEADING HOME. WHAT HAPPENED? WE DIDN'T GET THE NUMBER RIGHT THE LAST TIME? WE JUST DID THIS. I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED. >> THIS IS A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR A SEPARATE PROGRAM. THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH HUD DOLLARS THROUGH THE COC GRANT. THEY'RE A PROVIDER THAT INDICATED THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CARRIY THE CONTRACTS INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THEY REQUIRED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE TRANSITION. IT'S A SEPARATE PROJECT THAN THE ONE BROUGHT PREVIOUSLY. >>COUN. ROGERS: ARE WE ADDING THIS TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT? >> WHAT THIS DOES -- I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THIS IS AUTHORIZING THE REQUEST OF UTILIZING $140,000 FROM FUND 265 FOR THE COC PROGRAM. FOR A CONTRACT FOR HEADING HOME. IT WILL BE A NEW CONTRACT FOR HEADING HOME. IT'S ADDING $140,000 TO IT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT YOU KNOW . >>COUN. ROGERS: ADDING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT? >> THIS WILL BE A SECOND CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,000 OF GENERAL FUND TO COC CONTRACT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO, JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S NO PROCUREMENT RULES -- THIS IS AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER O-26-33. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT TO RECONSIDER O-26-33. COUNCILOR ROGERS SECOND. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M SORRY. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON RECONSIDERATION? >>COUN. PEÑA: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RECONSIDERATION OF O-26-33, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION -- DID I SAY THAT WRONG? 33. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT. THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU DO MATH IN PUBLIC. SO, I'VE SPOKEN WITH COUNCILOR GROUT ABOUT THIS. WE'RE GOING TO POP UP THE AMENDMENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO NUMBER IT NOW. ONE. TO THE MINIMUM WAGE -- >>COUN. PEÑA: NUMBER SIX. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'LL POP IT UP. THIS IS TO GET -- HAD AGREED TO TAKE DOWN THE 50% OF THE FULL MINIMUM WAGE FOR THE TIPPED WORKERS, BUT WE REALIZED WITH THE TIERED IMPLEMENTATION WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN SOME FOLKS PAY. WE ARE DOING -- WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT UP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M HAVING TROUBLE REFRESHING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'LL WALK US THROUGH IT. WE WON'T VOTE ON IT UNTIL WE SEE IT. TAKING THE MINIMUM WAGE TEZ PROVIDED HOWEVER THE CASH WAGE TIPPED EMPLOYEE SHALL BE NO LESS THAN TIPPED MINIMUM WAGE BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2027 SHALL BE 55.5% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. JANUARY 1, 2028, 52%. AND JANUARY 1, 2029 AND EACH YEAR THAT BE 50% OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MINIMUM WAGE. AGAIN, THAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE NO ONE GOES DOWN AND BACK UP. THIS IS JUST A STEADY BUT VERY, VERY SMALL INCREASE SO OUR GOAL WAS TO MAKE SURE FOLKS GOT MORE MONEY OR STAYED THE SAME, NOT TO HAVE A REDUCTION. THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FORMAT WHEN I WAS TALKING NUMBERS WITH COUNCILOR GROUT EARLIER. I MOVE THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT TO O-26-33. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF WE MISSED THAT, WE PROBABLY MISSED SOME OTHER THINGS. I MOVE DEFERRAL OF THE BILL TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'MING A MOTION TO MOVE THE ENTIRE BILL FOR DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL OF O-26-33. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. NO, SAME MOTION. THAT FAILS ON A 3-6. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. MAKING SURE WE DON'T LOWER ANYONE'S PAY. WE'RE GETTING IT BACK TO THE 50% THAT COUNCILOR GROUT ORIGINALLY WANTED BY YEAR THREE. >>COUN. PEÑA: PERFECT. ANY QUESTIONS? NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT TO O-26-33, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED, SAME MOTION. THAT'S 7-2. WITH THAT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BILL ANYMORE. THAT WAS AMENDED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT. SO, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT WAS MY QUESTION. NOW, WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON O-26-33. I WANT TO SAY IT'S AMENDED FIVE TIMES. 33 -- DIDN'T I SAY 33? I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE IT WRITTEN AS 33. FIVE TIMES, CORRECT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, NO. LET'S DO THAT AGAIN. IT'S LATE. WE'RE TIRED. THIS IS WHY WE SHOULDN'T HEAR AT THIS TIME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-33 AS AMENDED, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSE, SAME MOTION. THAT PASSES ON A 5-4. SEEING NO -- NOW WE'RE ON OTHER BUSINESS. THERE'S NONE. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.