>>COUN. BENTON: GOOD EVENING, THE COUNCIL WILL COME TO TO ORDER. WE'LL START WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WE'LL MOVE TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. STARTING WITH COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I'D LIKE TO -- I HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. DIRECTOR ANNA SANCHEZ IS HERE WITH OTHER GUESTS TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. >>COUN. GROUT: WHEREAS, OLDER AMERICANS ARE VITAL TO THE COMMUNITY, CONTRIBUTED STRENGTH, WISDOM AND LIFE EXPERIENCE. PRESIDENT KENNEDY DEZ NATDED MAY AS OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. A TIME TO CELEBRATE OLDER AMERICANS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS, COMMUNITIES BENEFIT WHEN PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, ABILITIES AND BACKGROUNDS ARE WELCOMED AND INCLUDED AND SUPPORTED. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S DEPARTMENT OF SENIOR AFFAIRS PROVIDES SERVICES TO HELP ALBUQUERQUE ELDERS THRIVE AND LIVE INDEPENDENTLY FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. AND CREATE AVENUE FOR OLDER GENERATIONS TO SHARE VALUES AND WISDOM WITH OUR YOUNG ONES. WHEREAS, DURING THE PANDEMIC THE DEPARTMENT'S NUTRITION PROGRAM WAS A LIFELEN FOR COMMUNITY SENIORS. DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF MEALS THEY SERVE EACH DAY AND PROVIDING MORE THAN 920,000 MEALS DURING THE PEAK MONTHS OF THE PANDEMIC. WHEREAS, TWO OF THE MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS PLANNED FOR THIS MONTH WILL BE THE AGELESS ARTISAN CRAFT FAIR ON MAY 21st WHICH IS AN OLDER OPPORTUNITY FOR ARTISTS TO SHOWCASE WORK AND THE NATIONAL SENIOR HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY ON MAY 25th, WHICH ENCOURAGES STAYING HEALTHY AND ACTIVE AND FOR OLDER ADULTS. THEREFORE, THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROCLAIMS MAY, 2022 TO BE OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. WE URGE EVERY RESIDENT TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OLDER CITIZENS. AND JOIN EFFORTS TO SUPPORT OLDER AMERICANS IN HEALTHY WAYS. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW I SAW YOU LAST WEEK. IT WAS A PLEASURE AND HONOR TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. I'M JOINED BY SPECIAL GUESTS. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR MANAGER, CRIZ SANCHEZ, OUR SPORTS AND FITNESS PROGRAM MANAGER. THEY ARE MEETING ONE OF THE FIRST [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE WANT TO THANK YOU THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. AND NICKY IS AN ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR. AND WE'RE JOINED BY THE CHAIR OF THE COUNSEL. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MONTH. WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU. WE'RE GOING TO PASS THESE OUT. WE HAVE ARTISAN CRAFT FAIR, AS WELL AS SENIOR FITNESS SPACE. WE'RE GIVING YOU THE FLIERS, AND SEND YOU THE INFORMATION AND PERSONAL INVITATIONS TO ATTEND THE EVENTS. THESE ARE NEW INITIATIVES. THERE'S LONG-STANDING TRADITIONS. ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU'RE RECEIVING IS THE CRAFTED PINNED DRAGON FLY. IT WAS MADE BY A SENIOR OF LOS VOLCANES SENIOR CENTER. SHE'S WATCHING TONIGHT. SHE DONATED THIS LITTLE GIFT. IT'S A WORK OF ART. AND IT WILL ALSO BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOWCASE AT THIS ARTISAN FAIR AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US. SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW SHE DOES THIS BECAUSE IT'S A HOBBY AND LOVE BUT SHE ALSO DONATES PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS TO CHARITY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE SHE LOST A LOVED ONE. IT'S AMERICAN BRAIN TUMOR ASSOCIATION AWARENESS MONTH. SHE WANTED TO MENTION IT'S IMPORTANT TO HER THAT YOU RECEIVE THIS AND HOPEFULLY WILL JOINOUS -- JOIN US ON THAT SATURDAY. THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR AND THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE APPRECIATE THE HONOR, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SANCHEZ. NEXT IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL FOSTER APPRECIATION MONTH. WE HAVE WITH US ANNE AND MARILYN BECK HERE TO ACCEPT THIS EVENING'S PROCLAMATION. IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. WHEREAS, STATES HEALTHY CHILDREN ARE THE KEY TO A SAFE HEALTHY FUTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS EVERY CHILD DESERVES TO GROW UP IN A SUPPORTING LOVING HOME TO GROW. AND WHEREAS DURING THOSE UNFORTUNATE TIMES WHEN CHILDREN CANNOT SAFELY REMAIN IN HOMES, THE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO WHO OPEN THEIR HOMES PROVIDE A VITAL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND FOSTER PARENTS PROVIDE THE LOVE, SAFETY AND STABILITY CHILDREN NEED IN ORDER TO REACH THEIR FUALITY THERE ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THEIR CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SUPPORTS PARTNERSHIPS WITH FAMILIES, CHILD WELFARE STAFF AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AGENCY TO ENSURE CHILDREN ARE SUPPORTED AND SUCCESSFUL. THE COUNCIL THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE JOINS THE NATION IN RECOGNIZING MAY AS NATIONAL FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION MONTH AND DECLARES MAY 22nd FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION DAY IN HONOR OF THE FOSTER PARENTS WHO ADVOCATE FOR THE CHILDREN TO ENSURE THE BRIGHTEST POSSIBLE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE FOSTER COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GROUT. ON MAY 22nd, SUNDAY FROM 1 P.M. TO 4 P.M., AT MARIPOSA PARK, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR SECOND ANNUAL FOSTER FAMILY KINSHIP GUARDIAN AND CELEBRATION EVENT FOR FOSTER FAMILIES, ADAPTIVE FAMILIES, AND GUARDIANS. WE HAVE THIS AT 2019 AND COVID HIT. WE HAD ABOUT A THOUSAND FAMILIES AND WE'RE HOPING FOR AS MANY THIS YEAR. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE LENDING US YOUR PARKS AND SERVICES. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 2,000 CHILDREN IN YOUTH AND FOSTER CARE IN NEW MEXICO. AND APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THOSE CHILDREN ARE HERE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. AND THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. I WISH I COULD TELL YOU GREAT NEWS ABOUT HOW AMAZING IT IS, REALLY THE WORK WE'RE DOING AND TAKIC A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE THE GOOD FAMILIES AND GUARDIANS IS IMPORTANT. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING MAY AS FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION AND AWARENESS MONTH. I WOULD SAY TOMORROW IS NATIONAL FOSTER CARE DAY. I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO WEAR BLUE AND TAKE A PICTURE AND JUST REALLY SUPPORT THESE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN CRISIS AS THEY GET TO THEIR NEXT DESTINATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING SAFE SPACES, FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR PIERCE IS HERE. MS. MONTOYA, THE DIRECTOR OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS HERE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE -- I WANT TO START BY THANKING ALL OF YOU FOR SPENDING YOUR TIME WITH US TODAY AND HEARING FROM OUR GUESTS FURTHER IN DEPTH AND HAVING A GREAT, RICH CONVERSATION SURROUNDING THIS TOPIC. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM TWO GUESTS. AS A CITY, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPERATING THE OUTDOOR SPACES, RELY ON COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WE HAVE KIKA MONTOYA FROM THE DENVER VILLAGE COLLABORATIVE. AND WE ALSO HAVE JODY JETTISON, FROM HEADING HOME RECONNECT. MANY OF YOU KNOW HER. IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE SECOND SLIDE WITH OBJECTIVES, I'LL WALK US THROUGH THAT REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE THEY START. FOR TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING COMMON GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS SURROUNDING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. YOU'LL GET TO SEE A LOT OF PICTURES OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. I THINK EVERYONE'S CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE GUEST SELECTION PROCESSES. THIS IS NOT A WALK UP MODEL WHERE ANYBODY CAN COME. AND THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL HAND IT OVER FOR THE FIRST PART AND JODY WILL FINISH THE PRESENTATION. >> IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HELLO EVERYONE. I'M THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR COLORADO VILLAGE COLLABORATIVE. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR LETTING ME PRESENT THIS TO YOU TODAY. AND TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A MODEL THAT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN DENVER, COLORADO. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WAS BORN FROM THE PANDEMIC. KNOWING THAT WE NEEDED TO HELP EXTEND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO COVID-19 RESOURCES, HERE DURING THE GLOBAL HEALTH PANDEMIC. SINCE WE OPENED THE FIRST OUTDOOR SPACE WE EXTENDED THE MODEL AND ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER NOT ONLY JUST THE RESPONSE OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC BUT THE SUBSEQUENT ECONOMIC RECOVERY FROM THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. THE PURPOSES THAT WE ESTABLISHED EARLY ON FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF COVID-19. AND EXTEND EQUITABLE RESOURCES SUCH AS HEALTH CARE AND CASE MANAGEMENT AND HAVE THE BASIC SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF DURING THE GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS. AND ALSO TO RELOCATE PEOPLE THAT ARE CAMPING IN PUBLIC SPACE INTO A SAFE, MANAGED LOCATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, A LOT OF THE RESOURCES WE HAVE IN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IS WE WANT TO EXTEND SANITATION RESOURCES. WE HAVE BATHROOMS, HAND WASHING SINKS, WE ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO SHOWERS AND LAUNDRY. WE DO FOOD PROVISIONS AND PROVIDE DIRECT TAP INTO DENVER WATER. OUR LARGER SERVICE LIKE MEAL DELIVERY AND SERVICE DELIVERY, BUT THEY DOUBLE AS WARMING AND CLEANING SHELTER. WE ALSO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY TO EVERY RESIDENT AND INTERNET. SOME OF THE SERVICES WE HAVE INSIDE THE SPACE ARE AROUND THE COVID-19 MITIGATION EFFORTS. WE PROVIDE WELLNESS SCREENING, TEMPERATURE SCREENINGS, AND WE HAVE VACCINATION ACCESS, TESTING ACCESS, WE ALSO HAVE HOTEL REFERRALS FOR FOLKS THAT EITHER TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID-19 OR FOUND TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PROTECTIVE ACTION HOTEL ROOMS. WE ALSO BRING IN AS MANY OUTREACH SERVICES AS POSSIBLE. AND HELP FOLKS ALONG THEIR HOUSING NAVIGATION JOURNEY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. AND BENEFIT NAVIGATION SUCH AS SNAP BENEFITS AND SOCIAL SECURITY. NEXT SLIDE. SO, THESE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE SET UP WHAT'S CALLED A TEMPORARY UNLISTED USE PERMIT. OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IN THE CITY OF DENVER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE A PERMIT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE REZONING CHANGES, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE CHANGE OF USE FOR SPECIFIC PIECES OF PROPERTY AND DENVER CITY COUNCIL COULDN'T HAVE TO APPROVE EACH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THERE'S A MECHANISM SET UP FOR PERMITTING PROCESS THROUGH COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE. HERE IS ONE OF THE FIRST SPACES WE OPENED UP IN DECEMBER OF 2020. AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN BARELY TELL WHAT IT IS ON THE OUTSIDE. WE HAVE A SIX-FOOT TALL FENCE. USUALLY THERE'S PRIVACY SCREENING. YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE WHITE TENTS ARE WHERE MEALS AND SERVICES ARE DELIVERED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE FIRST OUTDOOR SPACES FROM THE INSIDE. WE UTILIZE ICE FISHING TENTS. WHEN WEFIRST ESTABLISHED THIS CONCEPT, IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, AND IT WAS A BASIC CAMPING TENT. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE OPENED IT RIGHT AWAY AS SOON AS WE PROPOSED THIS PROJECT. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. IT TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS OF LONG, HARD WORK TO REALLY FIND A PATH FORWARD TO ESTABLISHING ONE OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE FOUND OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. THERE'S SNOW ON THE GROUND. THAT WAS BEFORE PEOPLE MOVED IN. WE KNEW WE NEEDED SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE COLORADO WINTER. WE UTILIZED ICE FISHING SEALITYERS. ON THE RIGHT THERE'S A DIFFERENT BRAND OF TENT. OUR FIRST TWO OUTDOOR SPACES OPENED IN DECEMBER 2020. WE'RE WORKING ON OPENING ON A FOURTH. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE INSIDE THE TENT. WE PROVIDE A CAUGHT, SLEEPING BAG, TRASH CAN, HYGIEN PRODUCTS, STORAGE SPACE AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOTHING OUTSIDE OF EACH OF THESE TENTS. PART OF THE USE AGREEMENT FOR THE SPACE THAT FOLKS ONLY HAVE WHAT FITS INSIDE THEIR TENT. NEXT SLIDE. DURING OUR DESIGNING OF THIS PROGRAM, WE LEANED ON OUR PREDECESSORS. YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY POWERFUL PREDSISSER IN NEW MEXICO, CAMP HOPE. WHICH IS WHAT WE -- ONE OF THE MODELS WE BASED OUR MODEL OFF OF. AND WE ALSO BASED IT OFF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES LIKE SEATTLE, SAN FRANCISCO AND TAMPA BAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A THREE-SIDED SHELTER THAT GO WITH THE SHELTER. PART OF THE DESIGN OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IS WE'RE NOT A WALK-UP SHELTER. WE RELY ON THE PARTNERS ALREADY DOING THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORK. BASICALLY, THE FOLKS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM ABQ STREET CONNECT. THEY'RE DOING THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORK. THEY'RE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USE IN DENVER. AND WE REALLY RELY ON THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO BUILD WITH FOLKS. THE SCREENING PROCESS IS REALLY, WE TRY TO KEEP IT AS LOW BARRIER AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THAT ARE TIRED OF THE GRIND OF CAMPS MOVED. AND NOT HAVING ACCESS TO SANITATION OR TRASH OR ANY OF THOSE NECESSARY SERVICES. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE KURNTLY -- CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUTREACH WORKER. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP FOR COMMUNITY GUIDELINES. AND WHAT WE DO IS ONCE WE FIND THAT PERSON IS AN APPROPRIATE REFERRAL, THEN STREET OUTREACH WILL COORDINATE TRANSPORTATION TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND WILL THEN PROCEED WITH THE INTAKE PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF OUR BASIC GUIDELINES. I WON'T READ THIS WHOLE SLIDE. A LOT OF OUR BASIC TENANTS ARE NO VIOLENCE, NO WEAPONS, NO DRUG TRADING OR SELLING SUBSTANCES, NO FIRES, WE ONLY ALLOW THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE TO COME INTO THE SPACE. AND WE REALLY TRY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR BY HAVING QUIET HOURS AND WE DON'T WANT OPPRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. AND YOU'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS HOUSING PLANS OR THE NEXT STEP IN HELPING SOLVE YOUR HOUSING CRISIS. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS WERE TO CHANGE, YOU ABIDE BY PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS. YOU KEEP YOUR SPACE CLEAN. IF YOU WERE TO TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID YOU SEEK MEDICAL CARE. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT EVERYBODY SIGNS UPON MOVING INTO A SPACE. NEXT SLIDE. AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, OUR SITEERIZE -- SITES ARE MESSAGED. THEY SIGN A USE AGREEMENT, AND START COORDINATED ENTRY PROCESS BY COMPLETING AN ASSESSMENT. WE HAVE 24-7 ON-SITE PROGRAM STAFF. I REALLY BUILT THIS MODEL OFF OF UTILIZING THE UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE RECOVERED FROM HOMELESSNESS OR HAVE RECOVERED FROM THEIR OWN LIFE CHALLENGES. ABOUT 60% OF STAFF HAVE SHARED EXPERIENCES WITH THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. WE PROVIDE CONNECTION TO CASE MANAGEMENT, WE ALSO PROVIDE ON-SITE MEDICAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE, DENTAL CARE, THE THINGS YOU NEED TO START TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. WE HAVE QUIET HOURS. YOU SIGN USE AGREEMENT. WE ALSO HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT HUMANS ARE HUMANS AND SOMETIMES MOVING FROM AN ENCAMPMENT OUT ON A STREET INTO A SPACE THAT IS MANAGED, THERE MIGHT BE AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD. WE ALSO HAVE THREE-STEP ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS TO REALLY AID FOLKS AND BE SUCCESSFUL INSIDE THIS SPACE. AND WE ALSO HAVE WEEKLY TRASH REMOVAL. WE ALSO HAVE ONE PER EVERY TEN RESIDENTS POTTIES. WE HAVE SANITATION GUIDELINES, SITE WALKS. AND WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENT CREWS THAT HELP CLEAN UP AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SITE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE REALLY ARE MEALS FOR FOLKS. WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF FOOD PROVISION WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES JOB TRAINING SKILLS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ENTER INTO THE CULINARY ARTS OR STARTING TO EXPLORE A JOB TRAINING IN FOOD SERVICE. WE HAVE MEALS PREPARED BY THAT ORGANIZATION AND WE ALSO HAVE VOLUNTEERS TO DO PREP BY DIFFERENT FAITH COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO MAKE MEALS. I ALREADY WENT INTO MOST OF THIS BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE A REALLY -- MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT PROGRAM. IT WAS REALLY DESIGNED BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE. PRIOR TO ENTERING INTO THIS WORK, I ALSO EXPERIENCED LIFE CHANGES. MY FAMILY BROKE UP, I LOST MY CAREER IN REAL ESTATE, MY HOME WENT INTO FORECLOSURE. I WOUND UP THROUGH A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS, ON THE STREETS. I UTILIZE MY OWN EXPERIENCE TO BRING IN AS MUCH SERVICE PROVISION AS POSSIBLE. IT TOOK THREE ORGANIZATIONS IN DENVER TO GET ME BACK ON MY FEET. I BRING EIGHT ORGANIZATIONS INTO THIS SPACE. COLORADO COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, ST. FRANCES CENTER, AND DENVER PUBLIC LIBRARY BRINGING TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT. WE HAVE EMPLOYMENT PARTNERS THAT COME IN AND BRING EMPLOYMENT NAVIGATION, CASE MANAGERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, PHYSICAL THERAPIST COME INTO THE SPACE. REALLY JUST TRYING TO HELP FOLKS ACHIEVE A LIFE THAT THEY WANT. NEXT SLIDE. AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE I GET TO HAND IT OFF TO THE AMAZING JODY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES TO SHARE OUR LOCAL WORK IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT REALLY IS A BLESSING. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ABQ STREET CONNECT A PROGRAM UNDER HEADING HOME. WE SERVE ABOUT 160 FOLKS THIS YEAR WITH -- WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH ACUTE MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS. ALSO WITH ADDICTION. THE MAJORITY OF OUR REFERRALS COME FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT REALLY IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPANT WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THE FOLKS WE SPECIFICALLY GET REFERRED AND SERVE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT CREATE HIGH CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT GENERATE HIGH CALLS FOR SERVICE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE, MEDICAL NEED, AND ADDICTION. ONCE WE GET THAT REFERRAL, YOU RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION AND ONE OF THE REALLY GREAT THINGS WE CAN DO NOW OR HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AROUND IS TO REALLY SUPPORT THAT INDIVIDUAL IMMEDIATELY FROM THAT LOCATION TO A MOTEL ROOM OR ALBUQUERQUE OPPORTUNITY CENTER OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESOURCES WE'VE IDENTIFIED. WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OR EXCUSE ME, THE SAFETY COMPONENT OF THE ENCAMPMENT IS THAT WE ARE REALLY INTEGRATING THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH IN REGARD TO THE SOCIAL ASPECT OF IT. ANOTHER REALLY GREAT THING IS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK WITH FOLKS WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND THIS IS A CRITICAL PIECE AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS OF FOLKS TO GO TO THE ORGANIZATIONS TO COMPLETE AN INTAKE OR TO DO THE PAPERWORK AND UNFORTUNATELY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A BIT IS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE SPECIFICALLY AT THE CORONADO PARK WHERE UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF FOLKS ARE USING HOUSING VOUCHERS AND IT'S BEING REPORTED THEY CAN'T BE FOUND. THAT'S ANOTHER CRITICAL PIECE OF CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE RESOURCES CAN REALLY GO TO FOLKS AND START TO ENGAGE THEM AND MEET THEIR NEEDS. THE REASON WHY I FELT THAT THE COLLECTIVE IMPACT MODEL THAT THIS FRAMEWORK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE IT'S A COMBINATION OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM THE BUSINESSES TO GOVERNMENT THAT WE ALL SHARE A VISION AND WE KNOW HOMELESSNESS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. I'VE BEEN IN THE FIELD FOR 18 YEARS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND DEFINITELY OVER TIME I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE BARRIERS THAT OUR FOLKS EXPERIENCE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I THINK ONCE WE CAN ALIGN WITH THE VISION AND WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT TO REALLY STRATEGIING ON CREATING A TEMPORARY ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN HAVE RESOURCES GO TO THE PEOPLE, WALK WITH THE PEOPLE, AND HELP SUPPORT THEM IN PATHWAYS, THAT'S REALLY THE ANSWER AND SOLUTION TO THIS CRISIS. NOT GOING TO GO READ THE WHOLE THING. I REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS MODEL AND THIS TYPE OF FRAMEWORK AS A COMMUNITY WE TEND TO WORK IN SILOS. I THINK IF WE HAVE A MUTUALLY -- EXCUSE ME, A MUTUAL VISION AND COMMITMENT THEN WE CAN SOLVE THIS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE PARTNER WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE DID A STUDY AT CORONADO PARK AND WE INTERVIEWED 71 FOLKS OVER TWO DAYS. AS YOU CAN SEE THE AGE RANGE. WE ARE SEEING A BIT OF A TREND IN 65 AND OLDER FOLKS. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE SEEING A LARGE AMOUNT OF FOLKS WITH MEDICAL NEEDS, REALLY ACUTE. AND WE HAD SURVEYED EIGHT VETERANS. WE JUST USED PART OF THE ABQ STREET CONNECT MODEL IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, WE TEND TO DO A POPULATION ASSESSMENT IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION OF THE CITY. WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO IS OUT THERE. AND WHAT BRINGS THEM THERE. AND SO, THAT SURVEY REALLY WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME STUFF FOR US. NEXT SLIDE. WE'LL GO INTO DATA OUTCOMES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE HERE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKS -- EXCUSE ME, THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS SLEPT AT CORONADO PARK ON THAT SPECIFIC NIGHT WE ASKED LACKED THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TOO, THE FOLKS THAT ARE AT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION ARE THEY PASSING THROUGH, ARE THEY LOCALS, ARE THEY FROM HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 20-PLUS YEARS. IT SAYS A LOT. IT SAYS THAT OUR COMMUNITY -- THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE FROM HERE AND JUST NEEDING OUR SUPPORT TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE SOME PATH WAYS AND GET THEM OFF THE STREET. THE OTHER THING IS THE HEALTH ISSUES. THIS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR ABQ STREET CONNECT WE SERVE 100% WITH SEVERE HEALTH NEEDS. SCHIZOPHRENIA BEING THE TOP ONE. AND THE PHYSICAL HEALTH. WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING A LOT OF THE PHYSICAL HEALTH. WHEN THEY'RE NOT ACCESSING MEDICAL CARE, THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A DECREASE IN THEIR OVERALL HEALTH. WHICH WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAD CANCER FROM HEPATITIS C TO DIABETES, HEART ISSUES, WE SERVE A LOT OF FOLKS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HEALTH ISSUES. AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO INTEGRATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN GET THE MEDICAL AND THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND NAVIGATION ON-SITE AND DONE WHERE THEY'RE AT, WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN HOUSING PLACEMENTS BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. ALSO, WE'VE SEEN A DECREASE IN THE UTILIZATION IN THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND AT THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE SERVING. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST DATA SET. I DON'T THINK IF IT'S ON HERE THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE OKAY. WE'LL JUST GO HERE. A LOT OF THE TRADITIONAL OUTREACH MODELS, METHODS, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING AMAZING WORK EVERY DAY OUT IN THE FIELD. WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE FOLKS ARE AT AND IN WHAT THEY'RE NEEDS ARE. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AND WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE A SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL THAT REALLY CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF THESE FOLKS AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A -- AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THERE'S A SUBPOPULATION OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND I THINK THAT BY HAVING A SPECIFIC LOCATION, WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND CREATE THOSE SUPPORT PLANS AROUND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. INSTEAD OF PUTING AN AND AID AROUND THINGS OR HAVING EXPECTATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME INTO THE HEADING HOME OFFICE. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S -- THEY'RE TOO ACUTE. THEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE IN A SI PSYCHOSIS. OR IN A WHEELCHAIR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE SEEN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNHOUSED THAT ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO BE GOING TO INDIVIDUALS AND REALLY ENGAGING IN BUILDING THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS AND IDENTIFYING WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT, AND THIS GOES FOR ALL OF US, WITH JUST GETTING THEIR BASIC NEEDS MET. FOOD, WATER, SHELTER, WE CAN GET SOME REST AND REALLY START TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR OR TEAMS CAN GET IN THERE TO DO ASSESSMENTS OR TRIAGE TO SEE IF IT'S PSYCHIATIC, MEDICATIONS, MEDICAL. IS IT JUST GETTING MORE SLEEP AND REST. THAT'S HOW WE DEVELOPED THE STREET CONNECT MODEL IS REALLY BEING REALLY INTENSIVE AND INTENTIONAL AND STRATEGIC ABOUT WHO WE SERVE AND HOW WE SERVE FOLKS. AND THAT REALLY HAS SHOWN A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN OUR DATA IN REGARD TO THE UTILIZATION AND THE QUALITY OF HEALTH FOLKS PRE AND POST. AND THE OTHER BIG COMPONENT IS THE LOW BARRIER. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLIANCE RULES IN REGARD TO IF FOLKS DON'T SHOW UP TO INTAKE APPOINTMENT OR TO GET A HOUSING VOUCHER, WHICH THIS MIGHT BE SURPRISING, THEN THAT HOUSING VOUCHER AT THAT TIME IS REMOVED AND THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR HOUSING AGAIN FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. IT'S MORE OF A PUNITIVE APPROACH AND WE REALLY TAKE THE FRAMEWORK AND THE LOOK AT HOW DO WE MOVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND SUPPORT THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT. WE NEED TO GO TO THEM AND DO THE INTAKE. WE NEED TO GO TO THEM AND SUPPORT THEM AND WHERE THEY'RE AT. THAT BIGHT BE THE LAST SLIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO SHARE IS WE DID FIND AT THE PARK THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 FOLKS WITH ACTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS. WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK UP INTO HMIS, IT SHOWS THE INDIVIDUALS WEREN'T ABLE TO LOCATE THEM. AND THAT -- I REALLY THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE NEED TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE FOLKS ARE AT. WE JUST HAVE TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND AGAIN, INSTEAD OF HAVING AN EXPECTATION OF THEM COMING TO US. AGAIN, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME. I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL TO SHARE SOME OF OUR WORK. >> THANK YOU, JODY. AND WE NOW STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILORS, QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS? >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR THE TO SPEAK WITH YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD IN OUR PRESENTATION AND IN THIS WAS THE NEED FOR STRUCTURE. THIS IS NOT, AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, IT'S NOT A FREE FOR ALL. THESE SITES, THE DENVER SITES FUNCTION MOST EFFECTIVELY, THEY'RE CLEAN AND RULES AND EXPECTATIONS. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THOSE RULES ARE DEVELOPED WITH THE RESIDENTS AND WITH THE OPERATORS AND THE CITY AND HOW DENVER ADAPTED. I UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT SITES MAY NEED A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES DEPENDING ON THE SET OF SERVICES. HOW IS THAT DEVELOPED? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILOR. FIRST AND FOREMOST, A LOT OF THIS PLAN WAS REALLY DEVELOPED FROM OUR EXISTING TINY HOME VILLAGE MODEL. WE HAVE TEMPORARY TINY HOME VILLAGE IN DENVER ALREADY. AND WHEN THIS PROPOSAL WAS PUT FORWARD TO THE CITY DURING THE PANDEMIC, I ACTUALLY KID -- DID A BUNCH OF SURVEYS FROM FOLKS OF WHAT IS THE TYPE OF SPACE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE AT. AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR NOT SEE. AND REALLY LISTEN TO THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE LIVING IN THIS SPACE. I TOOK AN INTENTION APPROACH TO CO-DESIGN THIS WITH THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING OUTSIDE AND ON THE STREETS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT I THINK WAS VERY IMPACTFUL EARLY ON WAS OUR ORIGINAL STAFFING MODEL WAS PROGRAM STAFF DURING THE DAY AND SECURITY AT NIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I OVERWHELMINGLY HEARD WAS NO BADGES. OUR ENVIRONMENT IN THE STREETS IN DENVER IS WE AN URBAN CAMPING BAN. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE SLEEPING OUTSIDE HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE INTERACTION WITH OTHER SECURITY PERSONNEL. AND SO WHAT WE DID EARLY ON WAS SHIFT THAT STAFFING MODEL TO BE A PROGRAM-TRAINED STAFF 24 HOURS A DAY. ALL OF THE STAFF ARE TRAINED, THEY ARE CREATES DE-ESCALATION TRAINED. MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID, AND AGAIN A LOT OF THEM BRING THEIR OWN UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS INTO THIS SPACE. WE HAVE, FOR THE MOST PART, NOT LIMITED PEOPLE'S ENTRY BASED ON BACKGROUNDS AND SEX OFFENSES. BUT WE HAVE ATERED THAT FOR THE LOCATIONS WE MOVED TO WAS CO-LOCATED ON THE SAME CAMPUS AS A PRESCHOOL. WE HEARD THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT THERE WAS TO BE COLOCATED AS THE SAME CAMPUS AS A PRESCHOOL WE TOOK EXTRA PRECAUTIONS. WE ALSO DID BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SEX OFFENDER CHECKS. AND OF COURSE, THROUGHOUT THAT DATA COLLECTION, WE DID FIND THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR WERE OVERREPRESENTED AND THE FOLKS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER INTO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I WILL ALSO NOTE, TO DATE, WE HAVE WITH THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE SPACE WE HAVE YET TO HAVE A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON OR AGAINST PROPERTY COMMITTED BY A RESIDENT OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHAT WE FOUND IS THROUGH THE OUTREACH, THE TRUST BUILDING BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE SHARED EXPERIENCES WITH THEM, WE GET A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BOUGHT INTO THIS SPACE AND THEY WANT TO SEE IT SUCCEED AS MUCH AS WE DO. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR? >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU DID. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HOW MANY SHELTERS ARE IN EACH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE? >> WE USUALLY AVERAGE ABOUT 45 ICE FISHING SHELTERS WHICH HOUSES 50 TO 60 PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SHELTERS THERE ARE. WE'RE FOCUSED ON SERVING A LOT OF OUR GAPS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION IS IN ALBUQUERQUE, BUT WE HAVE A HIGH REPRESENTATION OF BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND LATINX PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION IN DENVER. WE REALLY TRIED TO USE AN EQUITY LENS WHEN INVITING FOLKS. AND WE ALSO SERVE COUPLES, WHICH THEY HARDLY EVER GET ACCESS TO SHELTERS DUE TO HAVING TO EITHER BE SPLIT UP BECAUSE IT'S A GENDERIZED MODEL. WE ALSO ACCEPT PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES OR PEOPLE WITH EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS. THESE ARE BIG GAPS IN OUR SHELTERING SYSTEM. DID I ANSWER THE QUESTION? >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY, SOMETIMES I JUST GO IN AND I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWER THE QUESTION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. YOU SAID IN AN EARLIER PRESENTATION, WHEN YOU GO INTO A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. IS THAT REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF DENVER, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DO? >> SO, UNDER OUR MECHANISM OF APPROVAL WHICH IS CALLED TEMPORARY UNLISTED YOUTH PERMIT, THAT IS A PERMIT WE APPLY FOR THROUGH COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT PERMITTING PROCESS, WE HAVE TO SHOW A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN. WHAT THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN LOOKS IS WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FIRM THAT HELPS US GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT WE DO IS WE DO DOOR-KNOCKING IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO OR FACING OR BEHIND THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. WE ALSO FLIER UP TO FOUR BLOCKS AROUND THE POTENTIAL SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WITH A COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING FLIER. THIS IS A ZOOM MEETING THAT WE HOLD AS A WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT A PROJECT THAT'S COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE OPEN IT FROM QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. DURING THIS TIME, WE TRY TO DISPEL A LOT OF MYTHS THAT COME ALONG WITH SURVEYING THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY. A LOT OF THOSE SAME MYTHS EXIST IN DENVER THAT EXIST IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE ALSO OFFER THE TOOL WE USE CALLED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WE ENTER INTO WITH A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION. IT USUALLY OUTLINES CONCESSIONS, IF NEEDED, TO DO -- TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SIMILAR TO THE LOCATION IN PARK HILL THAT WAS ON THE CHILDREN'S CAMPUS. WE INCLUDED NO SEX OFFENDERS AND NO VIOLENT OFFENDERS IN THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT GIVES US IS THAT GUARANTEED COMMUNICATION CHANNEL INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BY BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE AND DISSEMINATE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT OCCUPANCY, AND ANY POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND TO BE ABLE TO PROBLEM-SOLVE IN REAL TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT PROCESS THEN WE -- IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT ENTERED INTO WHICHEVER PARTIES. IT'S USUALLY COLORADO VILLAGE COLLABORATIVE, A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION. MOST RECENTLY, WE ACQUIRED LAND THROUGH ONE OF OUR LARGEST COMMUNITY HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS CALLED DENVER HEALTH. THEY LEASED US ONE OF THE VACANT PARKING LOTS. THEY ARE A PARTY TO ONE OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE A THE LANDLORDS. THAT'S A TOOL AND PROCESS WE USE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. DID YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING CODES IN DENVER? >> NO. THE TEMPORARY PERMIT WAS HEARD BY OUR CITY COUNCIL. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE REZONING OF THE LAND. IT OPENS UP ALL LAND IN THE SIY OF DENVER AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY RECLASSIFICATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS HAVE WE DONE SURVEYS THE WAY THEY DID IN COLORADO? >> JODY SPOKE ABOUT THE SURVEY DONE IN CORONADO PARK. ARE YOU SPEAKING OF NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEYS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEYS, ALSO SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE IN CORONADO PARK AND MAYBE UP AND DOWN CENTRAL. >> JUST ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. SGLIN >> >> >> I THINK HE MIGHT BE MENTIONING THE SURVEYS THAT I DID IN ENCAMPMENTS PRIOR TO OPENING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND GETTING INPUT ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. YOU'RE GETTING THE SURVEYS FROM THE INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES. >> YES FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE SPACE. >> THE CORONADO PARK ONE IS OUR FIRST. AND I THINK WE WOULD DO A MORE TOGETHERED SURVEY RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND ACCOMMODATIONS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. OF COURSE BEFORE IMPLEMENTING ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR OUR FRIENDS IN DENVER. ARE ALL -- FIRST OF ALL, ARE THERE -- PARTLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T CATCH ALL THIS. DO YOU ALLOW CHILDREN IN SOME OF THE SPACES? >> NO, WE DON'T ALLOW CHILDREN. PER OUR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE INSURED IF WE HOUSED ANYBODY UNDER 18. WE ALSO HAVE A PRETTY BROAD BANK OF RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. WE REALLY TRY TO GET THOSE FOLKS INTO THE DEDICATED RESOURCE PIPELINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU DO BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE PRESCHOOL. DO YOU DO BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR ALL OF THEM? >> SO, OUR FIRST OUTDOOR SPACE WE DID NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS. OUR SECOND ONE WE DID NOT. THE THIRD ONE THAT WE OPENED THAT WAS CO-LOCATED WE DID. WE ALSO TRACKED THE DATA ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY AND OVER REPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE THAT NOT BEING ALLOWED IN WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR. WE REALLY IT PRESSING ON OUR HEARTS TO NOT FURTHER DISCRIMINATION OF PEOPLE. WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED THAT GOING FORWARD. THAT IS A CONCESSION WE USE PER EACH PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. >>COUN. LEWIS: I HEARD YOU SAY THAT DRUGS AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE SPACES, OR USE OF DRUGS IN SPACES. DO YOU ALLOW PEOPLE THAT ARE INTOXICATED IN THE CAMPS OR HIGH OR ON DRUGS? >> YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO PRIDE OURSELF ON BEING LOW BARRIER SHELTER MODEL. WE DO HAVE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES THAT SAY NO DRUG TRADING, SELLING OR USE. WE ALSO HAVE INDIVIDUALIZED MODEL. SO WE DON'T ENTER INTO PEOPLE'S PRIVATE SPACES. THERE ARE INTOXICATION ISSUES WHERE WE INITIATE OUR ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A VIOLATION OF OUR COMMUNITY AGREEMENT LIKE NOT SPECIFICALLY AROUND YOU'RE DRUNK RIGHT NOW, BUT ARE YOU DRUNK AND DISRUPTING THE ENVIRONMENT. ARE YOU NOT FOLLOWING COMMUNITY GUIDELINES BASED ON YOUR INTOXICATION. WE USE A HARM REDUCTION LENS WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSTANCE USE. THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS ON WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCESSING SHELTER SYSTEMS BECAUSE OF SOBRIETY. HOW WE LIKE TO FRAME IT IS WE INITIATE THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS, WE REVIEW THE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES AND WE WRAP THEM UP WITH AS MANY SERVICES AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS THAT WORK FOR OUR PROGRAM. THEY UTILIZE THEIR UNIQUE RECOVERY FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE. AND THEY PROVIDE ONE-ON-ONE ON-SITE SUPPORT AND CONNECTIONS TO CLINICAL THERAPISTS AND CERTIFIED ADDICTION SPECIALISTS. -- WE HAVE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES, WE USE THE LOW BARRIER APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES AND INTEGRITY OF THE SPACE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND, WE STARTED WORKING WITH JODY AND ALBUQUERQUE STREET CONNECT QUITE A FEW YEARS BACK. GREAT EXAMPLE -- VERY PAINSTAKING WORK. WE HAVE TO EMPHASIZE. FOLKS WHO ARE THE FREQUENT FLIERS ON THE STREETS ARE HARD TO LOCATE. AND IN THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE DISCUSSED, IN DENVER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO LOCATE FOLKS AND DRIVER SERVICES. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. DO YOU WANT TO WRAP UP ANYTHING? >> COULD I MENTION ONE MORE THING? YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT MENTALITY, WE'RE OPENING DISCUSSIONS TO HAVING FOLKS RESOLVE THEIR HOUSING CRISIS AND HONE IN ON THE SERVICES THEY NEED. ALONG WITH PROVIDING THE DIG GNAWTY -- DIGNITY OF A SAFE SPACE AND BEING ABLE TO USE THE RESROOM AND TAKE A SHOWER AND DO YOUR LAUNDRY. WE ALSO SEE FOLKS START SOLVING THEIR HOUSING CRISIS. LAST YEAR, WE HAD 47 LONG-TERM SHELTERING OUTCOMES INCLUDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THIS YEAR, SECOND QUARTER OF 2022 WE ANTICIPATE HAVING AT LEAST 30 PEOPLE HOUSED AND WE HAVE CURRENTLY ABOUT 65 PEOPLE CONNECTED TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS. NOT ONLY DUS THIS SPACE PROVIDE THE DINITY PEOPLE NEED. IT ALSO PROVIDES LIFELENS -- LIFELINES BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. >> DIRECTOR PIERCE WOULD LIKE TO WRAP UP. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND COUNCILORS FOR ALL THE TIME ON THIS TODAY. I WANTED TO WRAP UP WITH A FEW KEY POINTS. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR TIME. SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS IS THIS MODEL IS BY REFERRAL. THAT'S WHO WILL GO INTO OUR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THERE ARE RULES AND STRUCTURE. THIS IS NOT PERMANENT. IT IS TEMPORARY, IT IS ANOTHER OPTION GIVEN THE LACK OF SHELTER SPACE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET CONNECTED TO THE RESOURCE FOR HOUSING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME AND ATTENTION ON THIS SUBJECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL MEETING IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND WEBSITE FRIDAY. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. FOR THOSE COMMENTING IN THE CHAMBER, THE LIGHT IN THE PODIUM WILL BE GREEN FOR THE FIRST MINUTE AND A HALF, AND THEN IT WILL TURN YELLOW AT 30 SECONDS, AT 20 -- TWO MINUTES THE LIGHT WILL TURN RED AND YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ELI FOLLOWED BY TOM. >>COUN. BENTON: WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR NAME FOR THE PERSON ON DECK, YOU CAN COME SIT UP FRONT AND BE READY TO SPEAK. >> MY COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH CONCERN OF LEAD AND COAL CORRIDOR AS IT RELATES TO CRASHES. 776 CRASHES WERE REPORTED DURING THE PERIOD 2014 TO 2018. THAT'S A FOUR-YEAR PERIOD ONLY. I'VE LIVED AT COAL AND MORNINGSIDE FOR 26 YEARS. YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT TALLY MUST BE OVER A PERIOD OF 26 YEARS. I WITNESS A TYPE OF HIGH IMPACT CRASHES THAT OCCUR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE ON I-25 OR I-40. THOSE ARE VEHICLES LEAVING THE ROADWAY AND IMPACTING HOMES, AND IMPACTING THEM HARD ENOUGH TO KNOCK FRONT PORCHES OFF THE FOUNDATIONS. NUMEROUS ROLLOVER CRASHES. SOME ENDING UP IN NEIGHBOR'S FRONT YARDS. VEHICLES HITTING CHAIN LINK FENCES AND DRAGGING THEM DOWN COAL AVENUE IN SECTIONS AS LONG AS 25 FEET. VEHICLES FLYING THROUGH THE AIR ACROSS THE SIDE WALK IMPACTING A BLOCK WALL AND COMING TO STOP IN A NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD. I COULD GO ON AND ON. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR SEPARATE -- THAT'S IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: COUNCILOR BENTON. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THE TRAFFIC LIEUTENANT WAS STILL HERE. TO SEE IF HE CAN HELP ADDRESS MR. SANCHEZ'S PROBLEM AT LEAD AND COAL IN THE AREA IN QUESTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I KNOW APD WAS NOT PREPARED TO RESPOND TODAY. DMD BROUGHT INFORMATION ABOUT OUR EFFORTS THERE AND ASK THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND INCLUDING NEW APD ENFORCEMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS TOM, FOLLOWED BY BOB. >> I LIVE AT COAL AND CARLISLE AND CAN ATTEST TO THE SAFETY ISSUES REGARDING VEHICLES SPEEDING, RUNNING THE RED LIGHTS, AND NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS AND LOSS OF LIFE. ONE THAT STILL REMAINS IN MY MIND AND HAUNTS ME IS WHEN A GUY ON A MOTOR VEHICLE WAS HIT AND KILLED. THERE'S DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, LANDSCAPES AND STREET LIGHTS COSTING THE CITY MONEY. VEHICLES GOING SOUTH ON CARLISLE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN BECAUSE THE LEFT TURN ARROW WAS TAKEN DOWN DURING THE LED COAL PROJECT AND NEVER REPLACED AFTERWARD. AS A RESULT DRIVERS RUSH TO MAKE THE TURN AND AS THE LIGHT CHANGES AND OFTEN AS THE LIGHT CHANGED CAUSING ACCIDENTS. SOMETIMES A CAR IS WAITING TO TURN LEFT HAS TO WAIT THREE OR FOUR LIGHT CHANGES BEFORE THEY CAN TURN. CAUSING ACCIDENTS. DRIVERS SOMETIMES GET IMPATIENT OR MOVE BACK INTO THE RIGHT HAND LANE, MAKING FOR A DANGEROUS SITUATION. THE PURPOSE OF THE LED COAL PROJECT WAS TO MAKE IT SAFER AND WIDER SIDEWALKS. THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED. PARENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN IN STROLLERS ARE AVOIDING THE AREA TO AVOID BEING HIT DUE TO INCREASED TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND POLLUTION. I CAN SMELL GASOLINE FUMES IN MY HOUSE. VEHICLES WITH MODIFIED -- PEOPLE SEEM TO LOOK RESPECT BY THROWING TRASH OUT OF THE WINDOW AND LITTERING THE STREET. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PICK UP AFTER THEM. THIS CERTAINLY DOESN'T MAKE IT A NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WANT TO BE IN. ESPECIALLY FOR TOURIST. IT DOESN'T PROMOTE TOURISM. THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENT. >> BOB FOLLOWED BY SANDRA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M A PART OF THE AD HOC GROUP CALLED LEAD AND COAL SAFETY BREAK -- BRIGADE. IN PROBABLY ABOUT THE PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD FOUR PEOPLE KILLED RIGHT WITHIN OUR AREA OF THE LEAD AND COAL NOB HILL AND UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS SECTION. WE'RE ALL QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT'S GETTING MUCH, MUCH WORSE. I'VE LIVED ON THE CORNER WHERE I'M AT FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT IN MY OWN YARD FROM CAR CRASHES. WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM. ALL OVER THE CITY WE HAVE SPEEDING, WE KNOW THAT. THAT'S A GIVEN. FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL DESIGN, THOUSANDS OF HOUSES AND APARTMENTS CLOSE BY ON THESE TWO STREETS AND THEY'RE CROSSED BY NORTH-SOUTH STREETS WHICH ARE NOT DESIGNED DUE TO LACK OF SIGN VISIBILITY. SO MANY PLACES. AND THERE'S ALLEYS BETWEEN EACH OF THE STREETS. AND EACH OF THE PLACES ARE CAUSING CRASHES WHERE PEOPLE SPEEDING UP LEAD AND COAL AND CARS ARE RUNNING THE STOP SIGNS OR COMING THROUGH THE ALLEYS ON TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE SMALL VISIBILITY ROADS. AND WE'RE HAVING TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CRASHES. AND JOE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PICTURES. IT'S -- WE HAVE HAD A CAR CRASH AND KILL A MANCH . AND PEOPLE ARE PROID TO WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREETS. THE NORTH AND SOUTH STREETS, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM TO THIS THING AND HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. >> SANDRA, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. >> I'M SANDRA, I OWN A PROPERTY AT LEAD. AND T -- AT THE END OF JANUARY, TWO CARS COLLIDED. ONE GOING NORTH AND ONE GOING WEST ON LEAD. AND THEY WOULD -- THAT CRASH WAS SO DEVASTATING. IT PICKED UP A LIGHT FIXTURE ON THE CORNER AND IT PROCEEDED TO PUT THAT LIGHT FIXTURE INTO MY HOME AND LANDED ON MY PORCH, REMOVING AND DESTROYING THE ENTIRE RAILING AND ALSO MAKING STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO THE HOUSE. IT IS A PROBLEM. I AM PRETTY ANGRY ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS, I CAN'T TELL YOU. NOW IT'S GOT TOON THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST NOT ANGER, I FEEL GREAT SORROW THAT THE CITY HAS SO LITTLE ATTENTION TO THE ATTENTION AND TO THE PROPERTY VALUES AND RESIDENT'S HEALTH. I GO INTO THE YARD AND I'M LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER AND WONDERING IF I'M GOING TO GET KILLED TODAY. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THERE'S PEDESTRIANS THERE OCCASIONALLY. THERE USED TO BE LOT MORE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS TYPE OF CRASHES, PEOPLE DON'T GO ON LEAD AND COAL ANYMORE. AND AS ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS MENTIONED EARLY, THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE LEAD AND COAL REDESIGN YEARS AGO. ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC TAKEN OFF CENTRAL HAS BEEN PUT TO LEAD AND COAL. WE'RE RESIDENTIAL STREET. I HEAR ABOUT THE CAMERAS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON MONTGOMERY AND GIBSON BECAUSE THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDERS. FORGET THAT, THOSE ARE NOT PROPERTIES. THEY'RE NOT OWNED PROPERTIES. THESE ARE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS AND THEY'RE NOT KILLING PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU. JOSEPH, FOLLOWED BY DON. >> THESE CONDITIONS ON LEAD AND COAL -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. THIS IS NOT JUST SPEEDING. IT'S NOT ANOTHER GIBSON. THIS IS A TERRIFYING COSTS WHEN THE CITY USES NARROW SITES AS IF IT THEY'RE GIBSON. 60 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. 10,000 VEHICLES EACH DAY EACH STREET. CONSTANT DANGER. TWO DECADES AGO THE RESIDENTS STOPPED TO STOP THE CRASHES. THAT'S WHY THE LEAD AND COAL PROJECT HAPPENED. YET, TEN YEARS AFTER THE END OF LEAD AND COAL CONSTRUCTION, HERE WE ARE. FOUR YEARS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, HUNDREDS OF CRASH AND FATALITIES. A 7-YEAR-OLD DEATH AND 83-YEAR-OLD DEATH AND TWO EJECTIONS. WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED BY THE CITY'S DECADES LONG FAILURE TO MAKE LEAD AND COAL SAFE BY FAILURE TO PROTECT CITIZENS AND BY ASSUMING FAILURE OF CONSCIENCE. WHY THE INDIFFERENCE OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR -- ALBUQUERQUE IS A CARING CITY. IT SEEMS TO HAVE LOST ITS WAY ON THIS. WHAT DO WE NEED FROM COUNCIL? WE NEED YOU TO CARE. WE NEED YOU INVOLVED AND WE NEED YOU TO STAND MORE UNTIL CARS STOP CRASHING INTO OUR HOMES. WHY DID THE LEAD AND COAL PROJECT FAIL? WHY DID THE ADMINISTRATION SHUT DOWN THE ROAD SAFETY AUDIT? WE NEED TO HOLD YOU DMD AND ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABILITY. TAKE POSITIONS. THESE CONDITIONS ARE UNACCEPTABLE. ASK FOR A SERIOUS PLAN OF ACTION. WHATEVER IT TAKES, KEEP THE CARS ON THE ROAD. MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S VISION FOR LEAD COAL IS ZERO CRASHES INTO OUR HOMES. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH. >> DON, FOLLOWED BY KAREN. >> WHILE YOUNG PEOPLE 50 YEARS FROM NOW CURSE US FOR BEING TOO LAZY, TOO BLIND, TOO SELFISH, TOO SPOILED, TOO STUBBORN, IF WE REFUSE TO MAKE HUGE CHANGES IN HOW WE LIVE TO SLOW THE CLIMATE CRISIS. THE AMERICAN DREAM OF BIG HOUSE FULL OF EXPENSIVE STUFF, NO ONE NEEDS, FANCY CARS, DRIVING AND FLYING THOUSANDS OF MILES TO VACATIONS AND EATING MEET AND DAIRY IS A NIGHTMARE DISASTER FOR ALL LIFE ON EARTH. I HAVE RIDDEN IN NO CAR FOR 21 YEARS, I'VE OWNED NO CAR FOR 42 YEARS. I RIDE CITY BUSES, BUT I MOSTLY WALK. MY HOME IS ONE SUNNY ROOM WITH SIX WINDOWS AND IN THE HOUSE OF A FRIEND. I ENJOY, I ENJOY LIVING SIMPLY BELOW THE U.S. POVERTY LEVEL. I HAVE NO RIGHT TO MUCH MORE THAN I NEED WHILE MANY MILLIONS WORLDWIDE SUFFER HUNGER AND SICKNESS WITH NO HOMES ON FAR LESS THAN THEY MAKE. I'M DEEPLY INDEBTED TO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAUGHT ME, WHO HAVE LOVED ME, WHO HAVE INSPIRED ME. I COLLECT WISDOM TO LIVE WITH AND TO SHARE IT WITH ANYONE INTERESTED. >> KAREN, FOLLOWED BY TREVOR. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I AM ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE IDO PROPOSED CHANGES. I BELIEVE WHAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS LACKING IS A BETTER CONTINUUM OF OPTIONS FOR OUR HOMELESS RRESIDENTS. THE STATUS QUO IS NOT WORKING. PEOPLE WITH NO ACCESS TO SANITATION FACILITIES, OUTREACH TEAMS TRYING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE WHO THEY CAN'T FIND DAY AFTER DAY. THERE ARE VALID REASONS PEOPLE WON'T ACCESS SHELTERS. WE HAVE SHELTERS, PROGRAMS OFFERED BY AGENCIES, PERMANENT HOUSING, THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE MOTELS CONVERTED TO TRANSITIONAL LIVING SITES FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. MOTEL ROOMS FOR BEEN PROVIDED FOR MANY FAMILIES SINCE COVID BEGAN. WE NEED TO PUT THAT PROGRAM ON STEROIDS AND PROVIDE THIS FOR ADULTS AND FAMILIES. ZONING AMENDMENTS ADDRESSES THIS. SECOND, WE DON'T ALLOW FOR SET ASIDE SPACE FOR HOMELESS PERSON OR COUPLE TO PLACE A TENT OR PARK THEIR VEHICLE WITH ACCESS TO TOILETS AND HAND WASHING STATIONS. THIS COULD HAVE LESS STRUCTURE THAN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. PLEASE PASS THE LIVING LOTS AMENDMENT. AND THIRD, WE DO NEED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHAT WHERE DON'T AGREE WITH IS IMPOSING UNNECESSARY REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD PREVENT A CHURCH FROM BEING ABLE TO SET OPSAFE -- UP A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I THINK IT'S A MISTAKE TO REQUIRE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO HAVE 24-7 ON-SITE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. THE COST COULD BE PROHIBITIVE. SERVICE KZ BE -- AND OTHER PROVIDERS WITH WRAP AROUND SOCIAL SERVICES BROUGHT TO THE SITE. AS JODY MENTIONED, WE SHOULD BRING THE SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF REQUIRING THEY GO SEEK THEM. I THINK THE CITY ISN'T AWARE OF THE COLLABORATIONS THAT ALREADY EXIST THAT COULD PROVIDE MOBILE SERVICES FROM OFF SITE AT FAR LESS COST. >> TREVOR, FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON AND MEMBERS OF THE THIS COUNCIL. I'M A DISTRICT RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN. MY COMMENT IS ON THE GENERAL COMMENT RESOLUTION AND FREE BUS FARE. MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES AND OUR CITY AND PLANET BENEFIT FROM ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC TRANSIT. THE PLANET AND CITY HAVE THE BENEFITS OF LESS TRAFFIC. ADDITIONALLY ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVES ECONOMIC OUTPUT AND REDUCES IMPACTS OF POVERTY. CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM WILL IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. MARGINALIZED IDENTITIES ARE OVERLY REPRESENTED IN THE TRANSIT COMMUNITY. PEOPLE OF COLOR AND LOW INCOME WAGE WORKERS. NOT ONLY TO BUS FARES CHARGE THE MOST VULNERABLE, THEY'RE PROJECTED TO ATTRACT $1.6 MILLION FROM NON-PROFIT AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. ONE SUCH ORGANIZATIONS IS NEW DAY. IT SERVES QUEER YOUTH WHO ARE FACING OR AT RISK OF FACING HOMELESSNESS. NEW DAY SUPPORTED MYSELF, PARTNER, FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR TRANSITIONAL LIVING PROGRAM, LIFE SKILLS CLASSES, MENTAL SERVICES AND OTHER EFFORTS. THESE LIFE-SAVING PROJECTS SHOULD NOT BE DISINVESTED FROM. THE NEW DAY COMMUNITY IS SO VULNERABLE THAT TWO YOUTH SUPPORT RECIPIENTS HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS YEAR. THE NEW DAY COMMUNITY IS NOT THE ONLY AT-RISK COMMUNITY WHO BENEFIT FROM THE FREE FARES PROGRAM. I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE FREE FARES PROGRAM FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES AND CITY AND LEGACY. THANK YOU. >> JEFFREY FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> I'M IRRIGATION SPECIALIST AND I HELP ME AND THIS OTHER WOMAN BUILD THIS GARDEN. AND THIS IS -- I FOUND THIS GARDEN IN 2006 WHEN I WAS HERE AND LOOKED LIKE THIS. I CAME BACK IN 2018 AND IT LOOKED LIKE THIS. THE COMMUNITY STEPPED IN, AND TURNED IT INTO THIS IN TWO YEARS. THE CITY'S -- THEY OFFERED $100,000 TO IMPROVE IT. FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT THIS ORGANIZATION [ INAUDIBLE ]. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMUNITY GARDEN. THEY SAY IT'S NOT THAT KIND OF A COMMUNITY GARDEN. IT'S NOT A CONSENSUS. I PUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MY OWN MONEY INTO IT. I WAS THERE EVERYDAY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AFTER THE CITY OFFERED US 100,000 THEY NEGOTIATED WITH SWAP FOR FOUR MONTHS. AT THE END OF FOUR MONTHS WE HEARD THEY DON'T WANT THE MONEY. I NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS. ONCE THEY DID THAT, THEY BANNED ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM THE GARDEN. THEY WIPED OUT THE WHOLE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, BULLDOZED -- WE HAD A FLOORAL HEALTH PROJECT. WE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND THEY PULLED ALL THE TOPSOIL. I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDENS. IT'S RIDICULOUS WHEN NO ONE IN THE CITY HAS ANY AUTHORITY OVER THESE. I CAN'T FIND ANYBODY. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL, I KNOW WE WEREN'T PREPARE FOR THIS. THIS IS A PROJECT I KNOW THIS LAND WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED ON LEASE TO THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE IT WAS AN AIRPORT REQUIRED PROPERTY AND THE CHANGES TO THE NORTH-SOUTH RUN AWAY ALLOWED US TO HAVE OTHER USES. I WONDER IF YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY ON YOUR SHOP GIVE US A STATUS OF THAT LEASE OR WHAT THE STATUS OF THE PROPERTY IS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, IRONICALLY WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING. MR. SIMMEN RECOMMENDS A RESTRUCTURING OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE VERY ISSUES THIS GENTLEMAN RAISED TODAY. WE'LL PUT IN IN CONTACT WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE WE MOVE FORWARD IN A POSITIVE AND SUPPORTIVE MANNER THAN WE'VE HAD IN THAT PAST. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PARKS, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TERMS ARE. PLEASE INCLUDE US IN THE CONVERSATION. >> IF YOU CAN INCLUDE WHEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE DISCUSSION. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. >> TAD, FOLLOWED BY LEE. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS TAD. WELL, WHAT THE IDIOT OR PEOPLE OR STUPID OR PEOPLE OR BOTH WORKING IN GOVERNMENT REPRESENTING US. I'M TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO IMPEACH PRIVATE PRESIDENT. WHO IS PRIVATE PERSON. THANKS TO REPUBLICAN SENATE, SPEAK WITH 25th AMENDMENT OF UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. THAT'S HOW LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, LEFTESTS -- NOW NANCY PELOSI VISITING UKRAINE. UKRAINE IS NEIGHBORING WITH POLAND. SHE WAS VISITING UKRAINE. NOW, YESTERDAY OR TODAY VISITED POLAND. BELARUS HAS FIVE METER TALL WALL BUILT BY POLAND. FIVE METERS TALL. UKRAINIAN HAS OPEN BORDER. WELCOME OVER 3 MILLION IMGRANTS RIGHT NOW. WHY BIDEN WASN'T VISITING? BECAUSE HIS SON HAS BUSINESSES WITH UKRAINE. AND BIDEN PERSONAL BILLS. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHY HE IS NOT THERE. I HAVE LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT. NEXT TIME. >> V, FOLLOWED BY GENE. >> HELLO. I'M A HOMELESS PERSON IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'VE BEEN ON THE STREET FOR FOUR YEARS AND I LOVE IT. EXCEPT FOR THIS. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BE IN HERE. I REPRESENT 1500 HOMELESS PEOPLE. I AM A HOMELESS ADVOCATE. I WAS INVITED BECAUSE I READ THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT THESE ENCAMPMENTS. ON WEDNESDAY I MET WITH CAROL PIERCE AND SHE'S BEEN LISTENING TO ME FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS WHEN I STARTED OPPOSING THE GATEWAY SHELTER. I ACCESS TO THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. CAMP HOPE. BARRETT HOUSE. YOU NAME IT. I'VE BEEN THERE. ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM. THEY DON'T SERVE ME. THE RESULT OF THAT, I WROTE A PROPOSAL ON ONE SHEET OF PAPER. ALL THE CATEGORIES OF HOMELESSNESS AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND HOW TO SERVICE THEM. I'VE SHARED THIS WITH CAROL. THE RESULT OF THAT, WE HAVE ONE PAGE, SEVEN PAGES WE HAVE WRITTEN THAT YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE I GOT TO THE CITY APRIL 19th. WE CALL -- WE FOUND THERE'S A DEPARTMENT OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. I WANT TO ACCESS THEM. WE NEED HELP TODAY. NOT 30 WOMEN, OR 50 WOMEN IN DECEMBER. WE NEED YOU TO LISTEN NOW. THE PROBLEM IS, YOUR TERMINOLOGY IS DIFFERENT FROM MY COMPREHENSION. THAT'S OUR MESSAGE. I HAVE WORKED TO OPPOSE THE GATEWAY SHELTER. I AM VERY INSULTED BY 75% OF WHAT I SAW THROUGH OUR FEMMA CAMPS. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT IN MY WORLD. I HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT A CONTRIBUTING CITIZEN TO THIS CITY SINCE I WAS BORN. >> GENE, FOLLOWED BY M IRKS -- MIGUEL. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF WITHOUT MY STREET NAME. I'M ANNA MANGER TAYLOR. I'M COUSIN IS JAMES TAYLOR. MY OTHER COUSIN IS RETIRED CHIEF OF POLICE FRANK TAYLOR. MY COUSIN TAYLOR WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN THE LEGISLATIVE FINANCE COMMITTEE. WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND MARRIED I WORKED FOR CITY HALL BUT DID CONTRACT WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND HAD TWO CLEARANCES. THE PERCEPTION OF ME BECAUSE I CHOSE TO LIVE ON A SIDE WALK PAINTING PAINTINGS IS AN OBOMBINATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN I ASK WHAT IN GENERAL WHAT WOULD BE YOUR THOUGHTS, I UNDERSTAND THE PERCEPTION, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRERCEPTION OF PEOPLE IN THE STREETS. WOULD YOU SAY MOST ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM DRUG INDUCED SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES? >> 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS IN AMERICA COME OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. PEOPLE OUT THERE WERE NOT JOCKS AND CHEER LEADERS. THEY WERE KIDS THAT WERE MADE FUN OF HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS BURQUE THIS ISN'T DENVER. THE HOMELESSNESS IS DIFFERENT. THEY CALL ME STREET MOM. I LOVE MY LIFE. THE INDIGNITY I GET FROM YOUR RESOURCES. I HAVE BEEN BANNED WHERE I CAN'T GET A MEAL FOR A YEAR BECAUSE WHEN A POLICE OFFICER WAS ARRESTING A YOUNG GIRL I SAID BOO APD. YEAH. THE SERVICES DON'T WORK. I WILL PASS THIS OUT TO YOU. AND CAROL KNOWS HOW TO GET A HOLD OF ME IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS. >> GENE FOLLOWED BY MIGUEL. >> LIVE ON CORNER OF COAL. A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO I WENT TO TAKE A WALK THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I WALKED UP MY STREET AND TURNED ON LEAD AND CAME ACROSS A CRUSHED CONCRETE SIGN THAT SAID WELCOME TO UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS. BECAUSE OF SOME TRAFFIC COLLISION. I WALKED TWO MORE BLOCKS AND I CAME ACROSS A CANDLE THAT WAS A SHRINE AT THE SITE OF A REALLY GRISLY TRAFFIC DEATH THAT HAPPENED TO BE IN JOE'S YARD. I TURN AROUND AND WENT BACK HOME AND WALKED ALONG COAL, AND I'LL SAY I DON'T WALK ALONG THESE STREETS UNLESS I HAVE A PURPOSE TO WALK ALONG THESE STREETS. I'M AFRAID OF THEM. I WALK ALONG COAL AND I WENT TWO OR THREE BLOCKS EAST OF MY HOME AND CAME ACROSS A SHRINE WHERE SOMEONE HAD BEEN KILLED. AND I WALKED -- I DIDN'T WALK ANY FURTHER. A FEW MORE BLOCKS, I WOULD HAVE COME TO CARLISLE WHERE MOTOR VEHICLE HAD BEEN KILLED. THERE'S A REAL SPIRIT OF FEAR ON THE PART OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THESE CORNERS. MY HUSBAND AND MY SON AND I LIVE ON ONE OF THE CORNERS. OUR BEDROOM PILLOWS ARE TEN FEET FROM THE TRAFFIC. AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THOSE STREETS YOU CAN HEAR THEM ZOOMING FROM A LONG WAY OFF, RAGING PAST THE HOUSE AND ON UP. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY ACCIDENTS, JUST IN OUR FRONT YARD, THAT I'VE GOT TO SAY I AM TERRIFIED THAT ONE OF THE CARS IS GOING TO COME THROUGH THE WALL. AND WE WILL BE ASLEEP OR NOT ALERT ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THE WAY. ANOTHER THING THAT -- OH, SORRY. I'M DONE. >> MIGUEL, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF IFF. WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AND TOPIC TO COVER. I WANT TO OFFER SOME OF THE CALLS I'VE BEEN TATAKING. AMONG ALL OF THE STUFF WE HAVE GOING ON, THERE'S A BUNCH OF WILDFIRES RAGING ALL OVER NEW MEXICO. IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ONE HECK OF A FIRE SEASON. I'VE BEEN FIELDING PHONE CALLS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING AND HOW TO HELP. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP. WE'VE MOBILIZED IFF ALL OVER NEW MEXICO. INCLUDING IFF LOCAL 244. THE NEW MEXICO LOCAL FIRE FIGHTERS ASSOCIATION. THE SANTA FE 259. AND IBEW TO HAVE A DROPOFF LOCATIONS INCLUDING OUR OFFICE AND THE IBEW611 OFFICE. TO DROP OFF NON-PARISHABLES AND ANIMAL FEED AND LIVE STOCK SUPPLIES. WE'RE DRIVING UP TOMORROW MORNING WITH $5,000 WORTH OF PELLETS OF WATER. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT ANYBODY CAN DO TO HELP IS LET YOU KNOW AND MAYBE WORK THROUGH US. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING AN ADVOCATE AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT WAY WE CAN HELP. THIS IS THE BEGINNING, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRE SEASON THAT WILL BE A ROUGH ONE. WE'RE MOBILIZING. THANK YOU. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M SURE THEY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. >> WE'LL MOVE TO SPEAKERS ON ZOOM. YOU ARE FIRST SPEAKER -- >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL, I WANT TO ADDRESS ALL OF YOU. I HAVE PREPARED A TALK FOR TWO MINUTES. AFTER HEARING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE WOMEN FROM DENVER, IRONICALLY TALKING ABOUT THEIR ROLE MODEL IN LAS CRUCES, I ASK THE COUNCIL TO STEP BACK FROM THE VOTE TONIGHT ON THE CHANGE OF THE IDO TO ALLOW CAMPING ALL OVER THE CITY. I HEARD HEADING HOME JODY TALK ABOUT HER VISION, A VISION. OUR VISION IS NOT CORONADO PARK, EVERYONE. THE COUNT AT CORONADO PARK, THE VIOLENCE, THE THINGS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWNTOWN NEAR NORTH VALLEY HAVE HAD TO PUT UP WITH FOR MANY YEARS HAS NEVER BEEN EQUITABLE. I URGE ALL OF YOU TO TAKE A STEP BACK. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE TENTS, I APPRECIATE ELIZABETH INVITING HER TO TALK. LET'S TALK A HARD LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE DOING IT. LET'S USE THE WEST SIDE SHELTER AS THE CAMPUS. YOU ALREADY HAVE SHELTER BEDS. WE CAN BRING RESOURCES TO PEOPLE, BUT LET'S NOT PUT IT IN ANY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN TELL YOU, WE'RE THE POSTER CHILD IN WELLS PARK FOR THE CITY DISRESPECTING THE CITIZEN RIGHTS AND THE SAFETY OF OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR RESIDENTS. IT HAS TO STOP. I ALSO WANT TO INVITE YOU TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MEETING WE'VE BEEN HAVING. THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO HAS NOW GOT MONEY TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HOPING TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. NOT ONLY DO WE NEED READDRESS HOW WE'RE ALLOTTING HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS INTO ONE PARTICULAR PARK WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FAIR, LET'S NOT USE THE WORD EQUITABLE AND HELP TO DESTROY ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. LET'S SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK BACK AT WHAT THE DENVER MODEL IS TALKING ABOUT AND PROPOSE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. PLEASE, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU DO NOT GO FORWARD TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ANDREA. >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> HI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BILL. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT RESCIND A-12. ALTHOUGH THE CITY DOES ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED LAND USE IN THE IDO FOR LOW COST SHELTERS IT IGNORES THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF UNHOUSED RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT OPPOSED TO USING SHELTERS DUE TO ISSUES AROUND STEALING, SAFETY, AND HYGIENE OF OTHER UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES CAPACITY BILL WOULD ALLOW ONLY ONE VEHICLE OR ONE TENT PER SPACE WITHIN THE OUTDOOR SPACES AND LIMIT THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS. AS WE HEARD FROM THE DENVER EXAMPLE, THIS IS FALLING SHORT FROM THE BEST PRACTICES THEY EXHIBIT. THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FAMILIES THAT DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN THAT WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL TENT SPACES OR CAR SPACES. AMENDMENT B6, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD FROM MS. MONTOYA THAT HAD BEST PRACTICES THAT WOULD REQUIRE 24-7 SECURITY. IT FALLS SHORT IN PROVIDING ADEQUATE SERVICES THAT PROVIDE APPROPRIATE TRAUMA INFORMED SERVICES THAT INDICATE SUCCESS THAN PROVIDING SECURITY. AMENDMENT B15, THE SBI AREAS, I'M AN DATA ANALYST AND I LOOK AT THE SOCIAL VULNERABLE INDEX MAP. I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD PREVENT THE FIRST FIVE SOS TO BE PLACED IN HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABLE AREAS. THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY BURDENED WITH NOT ONLY A GREATER NUMBER OF UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS BUT THEY'RE OVERBURDENED BY A SOCIAL DETERMINEINATES. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDSEY. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN THE COMMENT PERIOD. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. WE'VE HEARD FROM JODY WHO I WORK WITH ABQ STREET CONNECT. I'M THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR THE TEAM. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT OUR TEAM SERVES ARE ILL WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR CHRONIC DISEASES. WE'RE SEEING A POPULATION THAT IS INCREASINGLY AGING. MAJORITY OF THE PATIENTS RANGE FROM 50 TO 79 WHO HAVE BEEN UNHOUSED FOR YEARS FOR THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE ISSUES ARE EX-TENSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MODEL AND CREATE AVENUES AND PATHWAYS FOR HOUSING THAT TREATMENT FOR BOTH SUBSTANCE ABUSE FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT. I HOPE THAT BECOMES AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PLANNING WITH MY CAPACITY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO WE'VE HAD INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT FOLKS WHO WE DISCOVERED WITH BREAST CANCER, FOLKS STRUGGLING WITH HEPATITIS C AND GETTING TREATMENT. FOLKS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER THAT ARE NOW ACTIVELY HOLDING JOBS. IT'S POSSIBLE THROUGH TEAMWORK. I HOPE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE AGENCIES SUCH AS SPD, CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, UNM, CAN COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON THESE SOLUTIONS IN A CONCERTED WAY. WE'VE ADMINISTRATED IT'S POSSIBLE THROUGH OUR DATA. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, WE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS ABOUT LEAD AND COAL. IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I KNOW WE WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGHOUT THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION TERM. I WONDFER WE CAN HAVE DIRECTOR MONTOYA TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. DIRECTOR, IF YOU CAN HELP ME REMEMBER -- I REMEMBER AS A NEW CITY COUNCILOR BEFORE YOU WERE INTO THIS OFFICE, MY OFFICE STARTED A TRAFFIC DATA COLLECTION THAT DEMONSTRATED SPEED ISSUES AND SOME CRASH ISSUES. WE PASSED THAT ALONG INTO THE ADMINISTRATION AND BEGAN THE SAFETY BRIGADE. THERE'S A PLAN TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT WAS MOVED TO LOUISIANA RIGHT AFTER THE CRASH WHERE THE AIRMAN THAT WAS RACING. IN THE MEANTIME, I KNOW THE LEGISLATURE ADDED FUNDING FOR SECURITY UPGRADES. AND WE HAVE THE NEW REST AND READ PILOT PROJECT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS GETTING READY. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND COOPERATION THAT YOUR ENGINEERS SAID IT'S WORTH THE STUDY. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PROACTIVE EFFORTS UNDERWAY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, LET ME DO A REAL QUICK RECAP. I BELIEVE IN 2017 THEY APPROACHED THE MAYOR ASKING THE MAYOR ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO LEAD AND COAL. AFTER THE MAYOR TOOK OFFICE AROUND THE EARLY PART OF MAY A TASK FORCE WAS FORMED. DOCTOR WAS THE CHAIR THAT REPRESENTED FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD SURROUND LEAD AND COAL. IT TOOK US A YEAR MEETING MONTHLY WITH THE TASK FORCE AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM MY OFFICE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOLUTIONS. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS EARLY 2020, SOMEWHERE IN THE COLD MONTHS, WE WENT BACK AND ADJUSTED ALL OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIGHT AND THE TIMING ON THOSE LIGHTS. THE SPEED LIMIT WAS 35 MILES PER HOUR AND WE DROPPED IT TO 30. WE INSTALLED MORE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS FOR A TOTAL OF 50. WE ALSO CLEARED THE LINE OF SITE. WE CLEARED BUSHES AND LOOKED AT WHAT SORT OF CURB IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE LOOKED AT THE SIDE STREETS THAT COME OUT OF GAR FIELD AND THOSE STREETS TO SEE WHAT SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS. WITH THAT, LET ME JUST QUICKLY TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. AFTER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO IMPROVE THE STOP SIGNS AROUND THE SIDE STREETS. IN COUNCILOR LEWIS'S DISTRICT WE'VE INSTALLED FOUR STOP SIGNS THAT HAVE BLINKING LIGHTS. THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE IS THEY'RE SOLAR DRIVEN. AND YOU CAN HAVE THE STOLER BOXES STOLEN. THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT MIGHT BRING VISIBILITY FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IS A BUSY STREET. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE STOP AND RED. IT'S A NEW PROGRAM IN NEW MEXICO. IT'S BEEN TESTED IN OTHER CITIES. THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SHOW IT HAS BEEN DONE EFFICIENTLY. REST IN RED IS A PROGRAM WHERE IF A VEHICLE IS SPEEDING, THAT LIGHT WILL STAY RED. IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN MORE THAN 35 MILES AN HOUR AND THE LIGHT IS RED, IT WILL STAY RED UNTIL THAT CAR COMES TO A STOP. WE'RE AT 60% DESIGN OF THAT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL ENGINEERING FIRM. WE WILL USE THE STATE PRICING AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO COMING TO FINALIZE THAT PROJECT AND TEST IT ON LEAD AND COAL. I THINK THE FINAL THING THAT THE DOCTOR WANTS TO HEAR IS WHILE WE TOOK THE ROAD SAFETY AUDIT AND MOVED FROM LEAD AND COAL TO LOUISIANA, THE STRETCH OF LOUISIANA BETWEEN GIBSON AND ZUNI. THERE WILL BE A FEDERAL STUDY ON LEAD AND COAL IN ABOUT A MONTH. THE CONSULTANT WORKING WITH THEM, IT'S THEIR INITIATIVE. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT A ROAD SAFETY AUDIT TO MEET FHWH STANDARDS. AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEY WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR INPUT. THERE'S ONE OR TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION ON EXACTLY WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE. IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S WHERE AT WITH THE PROGRAM. THE REST IN RED IS THE ONE WE REALLY WANT TO TEST TO SEE HOW BELTHS -- BENEFICIAL THAT WOULD BE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I LIVE ON THE STRETCH OF ROAD WAY AND USE IT WAVER DAY. WHEN SPEED CAMERAS COME BACK. I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET A TICKET THERE UNTIL I REMEMBER TO DO BETTER. IT IS AN ISSUE, AND IT'S ONE WE'RE SEEING AS FOLKS DEMONSTRATED. WE'VE HAD A SPEEDING ISSUE AND RACING ISSUE. WE'VE HEARD EVERY CITY COUNCIL PRESS APD TO DO THIS. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY NEIGHBORS, TOM AND JOE AND BOB, EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE THIS EVENING. THEY'RE RIGHT, LIVING THERE CAN BE DANGEROUS. WE WANT TO DO MORE. I JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP. IN FACT, DOING MORE STUDY, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE PIECES WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE CITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S SCARY EVERY DAY. WE'RE TAKING ACTION AND HAVE DEADLINES AND DATES AND DOLLARS FOR FOLKS TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES TIME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. >>COUN. BENTON: ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE QUESTION FOR MR. RAEL AND FOR CHIEF MEDINA. MR. RAEL, WHAT'S GONE ON AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE TINGLY AND CENTRAL CORRIDOR SINCE WE BEGAN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT WEEKS AGO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, MR. MONTOYA HAS AN UPDATE. >> THE FIRST TRAILER WAS INSTALLED TODAY. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN -- I HAVEN'T DRIVEN OUT THERE THIS AFTERNOON. I DID NOT DO THAT. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN RIO GRANDE AND NEW YORK. I THINK AROUND THE McDONALD'S. IT IS A TRAILER THAT WILL ANNOUNCE CONGESTED AREA AHEAD AND WATCH YOUR SPEED. THE PERMANENT FLASHING SIGNS WE'RE SKENLD TO -- SCHEDULED TO INSTALL. WE'RE PRICING THOSE NOW. WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE LATE JUNE OR LATE JULY. FOR NOW, IF YOU DRIVE WESTBOUND ON CENTRAL, YOU'LL SEE THE TRAILER THAT WILL WARN YOU THAT NEW YORK IS A VERY CONGESTED AREA AND WATCH YOUR SPEED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU ASKED ABOUT PLANTING TREES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. WE'RE ALSO MOVING FORWARD WITH HAVING TREES PLANTED RIGHT AWAY TO HELP CREATE A BETTER SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CALMNESS TO THE CORRIDOR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. RAEL, THANK YOU. MR. DIRECTOR, THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF OF POLICE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, CHIEF MEDINA IS IN ANOTHER CITY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WHEN I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. WATSON LAST WEEK. SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT PROVIDE A BIWEEKLY OR EVERY TWO WEEKS WHEN WE HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, ACTUAL REPORT CARD. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT WE KNOW HOW MANY OFFICER ARE WORKING AT APD. HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE HAVE WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AND HOW MANY OFFICERS WE'VE LOST BETWEEN MEETINGS. AND HOW MANY FIELD SERVICES OFFICERS, MINUS TRANSPORT AND COURT SERVICES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW MANY HOMICIDES YEAR TO DATE. HOW MANY SHOOTINGS WITH INJURIES. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD KNOW AS CITY COUNCILS AND ALSO CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE DESERVE TO KNOW. JUST TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING BETTER IN REFERENCE TO THOSE AREAS. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'LL PASS THAT ON. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE DON'T HAVE REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. WE'RE NOW ON COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE TO DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS. ANY AT THIS TIME? I HAVE ONE DEFERRALS FROM APPROVALS. THAT'S EC35 APPOINTING MR. AGUILAR TO CITY ATTORNEY. I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 6th. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? LOTHOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE HAVE DEFERRALS FROM FINAL ACTIONS. THIS IS ITEM C. MYSELF AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO R-230. METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA MAKING CERTAIN CONCLUSIONS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT CODE AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY TO PREPARE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH MENAUL REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND MOVE DEFERRAL TO MAY 16. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR R-230 UNTIL MAY 16. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. ANY OTHER DEFERRALS AT THIS TIME? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE ONE MORE. THIS IS R-13 DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO INSTALL THREE STOP SIGNS. I MOVE A DEFERRAL TO THE JUNE 6th CITY COUNCIL MEET. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL JUNE 6th ON R-13. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I PULL ITEM H, OC8 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF MS. AMANDA ZAMORA TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HANDS. YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. AND THE ITEM PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. AMANDA TO THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT, I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL MAY 16th. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY MAYT -- MAY 9 IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY, MAY 10 AT 5 P.M. IN CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROOM. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY MAY 11 IS CANCELED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. WE'LL NUFB FINAL ACTIONS. STARTING O-10. MYSELF AND COUNCILOR JONES IS THE ADOPTING CITY WIDE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE INTEGRATED ORDINANCE AND ADOPTED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE SMALL MAPPED AREA. I MOVE A DUE PASS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR JONES, THANK YOU. WE'LL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS BILL. WE'LL FIRST HEAR FOR THOSE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING CANNABIS PROHIBITION IN OLD TOWN. THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL AND REQUIRE MEMBERS BE SWORN IN. IF YOU SPEAK TO THIS RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY WILL BE TRUE? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I WORK IN A CANNABIS INDUSTRY AND CLIENTS MAY HAVE BUSINESS INTEREST IN THIS. I DON'T PERSONALLY, I ASK IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ON THIS MATTER? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, YES, I THINK THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PAST RECUSAL. I RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL EXCUSE MYSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION. IF YOU WILL INVITE ME BACK WHEN YOU'RE DONE. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, THANK YOU. WE WILL ADDRESS THE CANNABIS PORTION FIRST. THERE'S SPEAKERS ON THAT. THAT'S THE HPO-5 PRESERVATION OVERLAY. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. MOYA. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE COMMISSIONER OMALLEY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I SUPPORT -- I BELIEVE IT'S SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR BENTON TO SUPPORT THE PROHIBITION OF THE SALE OF MARIJUANA IN OLD TOWN. THANK YOU. >> SIL ? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC OLD TOWN PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. THE OLD TOWN MARKET ADVISORY BOARD. I'VE TESTIFIED ON SEVERAL MEETINGS ON THIS ISSUE. I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE COMMENTS. I SUPPORT AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO THAT PROHIBIT ALL CANNABIS RELATED TO BUSINESSES WITHIN THE TEN QUER -- SQUARE BLOCKS IN OLD TOWN. IT WILL ADVERSELY EFFECT THE CHARACTER OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I CHOSE TO PURCHASE MY HOME IN OLD TOWN KNOWING IT'S MIXED RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL ZONE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED AND RAN MOM AND POP MICROBUSINESSES FOR THREE CENTURIES. I I KNEW AS A DESIGNATED HISTORIC ZONE, THE HISTORY OF THIS TINY PLACE WOULD BE RESPECTED AND PRESERVED. NO PLACE STANDS STILL. CHANGES HAVE COME TO OLD TOWN. SOME GO? SOME NOT SO WELL DELIBERATED. I KNOW CITIES REQUIRE REVENUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE. YET, EVERYTHING SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MONEY. WE SHOULD NOT LOSE HISTORY WHICH IS THE SCAFFOLD WHICH THE FUTURE IS BUILT FOR THE SAKE OF A FEW MORE DOLLARS TODAY. LET'S SAY WE MUST HAVE THAT MONEY, WHY IS IT NECESSARY THAT THE BUZZ THAT PROVIDES THAT MONEY IN THIS HISTORIC ZONE -- THAT MONEY WILL BE IN THIS HISTORIC ZONE. IS THAT SOMEONE INTENT ON PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT WOULD REFUSE TO CROSS MOUNTAIN OR RIO GRANDE OR CENTRAL OR LOMAS TO ACCESS THE BUSINESSES? PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME AND THE PUBLIC WHY IT IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVE A CANNABIS BUSINESS IN THE HISTORIC PORTION OF OLD TOWN. THANK YOU. >> JESSY, FOLLOWED BY TRISHA ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, AS A RESIDENT OF HISTORIC OLD TOWN I'VE RECENTLY SEEN NEW BUSINESSES MOVE IN WITH THE IDEA OF MODERNIZING OLD TOWN IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH THE SAWMILL DISTRICT. PART OF THAT PLAN IS TO SELL CANNABIS IN HISTORIC OLD TOWN. I UNDERSTAND WHY ANY BUSINESS WOULD WANT TO INCREASE REVENUE. DOING THAT BY SELLING CANNABIS IS A DECISION THAT WILL HAVE SOME VERY REAL CONSEQUENCES. AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. DECISIONS REGARDING OLD TOWN SHOULD NOT BE MADE JUST ON THE BASIS OF MONEY ALONE. IT IS THE CHARACTER OF THIS HISTORIC PLACE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE HERE. AND CHANGING THE FAMILY-FRIENDY NATURE OF OLD TOWN WITH CANNABIS SALES MAY JUST BE THE THING THAT IN THE LONG RUN WILL KILL THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG. THINK HOW SELLING CANNABIS ILLIM PACT THE TOURISTS WHO BRING THEIR FAMILIES TO SEE HISTORIC OLD TOWN BY -- BUY NATIVE-AMERICAN JULIE AND ART AND TAKE IN PART OF THE TOURS. LET'S NOT FORGET THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO COME HERE TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, GO TO CHURCH AND HAVE A NICE MEAL. ALL TOLD, THERE IS REALLY NO GOOD REASON AT ALL TO BRING PEOPLE LOOKING TO BUY CANNABIS INTO THE HISTORIC OLD TOWN. THERE ARE ALREADY SMOKE SHOPS THEY CAN GO TO SELLING CANNABIS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE EXCLUDE CANNABIS SALE IN OLD TOWN. >> WE'LL GO TO SPEAKERS TO SOOM. ZOOM. >> MR. MOYA, MY COMMENTS ARE MORE GERMANE TO THE CITY WIDE AMENDMENTS. SHOULD I WAIT TO SPEAK? >> IF YOU PREFER TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE. >> THANK YOU. >> RENEE, FOLLOWED BY CATHY. >> HELLO, I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE OLD TOWN PROHIBITION. I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT CANNABIS SHOULD BE PROHIBITED IN OLD TOWN. CANNABIS IS AVAILABLE ALL OVER THE CITY. AND IT'S PERMISSIVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I DON'T THINK KEEPING IT OUT OF OLD TOWN IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THAT INDUSTRY. I DO AGREE THAT THIS TYPE OF USE IS CONFLICTING WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF OLD TOWN AND THE COMMUNITY HAS STRONGLY COMMUNICATED THIS AND DOES NOT WANT IT IN OLD TOWN. I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CATHY. >> YES, AS A FOUNDING VILLAGE OF ALBUQUERQUE OLD TOWN HAS BEEN A CULTURAL AND HISTORIC TREASURE IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR DECADES. SHOPS, RESTAURANTS AND EVENTS HAVE ATTRACTED VISITORS OF ALL AGES. I BELIEVE CANNABIS RETAIL DOES NOT FIT THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY FRIENDLY IS AND IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN THE OLD TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE INTRODUCTION OF CANNABIS RETAIL WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE OLD TOWN COMMUNITY. ONCE CANNABIS RETAIL IS INTRODUCED, THAT TRADITIONAL CHARACTER WE'VE KNOWN AND LOVED WOULD BE DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO REGAIN. I URGE YOU TO VOTE TO PROHIBIT CANNABIS RETAIL IN THE OLD TOWN HPO5 HISTORIC DISTRICT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE OLD TOWN. IF YOU LIKE I CAN MOVE TO THE GENERAL CITY PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S 7 O'CLOCK, WANT TO TAKE A DINNER BREAK NOW? OKAY TO LISTEN TO SPEAKERS? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD. WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH OUR SPEAKERS ON THE O-10. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY. FOLLOWED BY JANE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ALLOWING FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO BE CREATED IN THE CITY. IT'S NOT SURPRISING THIS IDEA HAS BEEN UNPOPULAR WITH MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE IN SERVICES OR HOUSING FOR THE VERY POOR, PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, TO LOW INCOME WORKING FAMILIES HAS ALWAYS BEEN MET WITH RESISTANCE. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE MORE REGULATIONS THAT ARE PUT ON THIS CATEGORY, THE LESS LIKELY SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL BE CREATED. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE INTENT, AT LEAST I HOPE IT IS NOT. REQUIRING THAT THESE SPACES BE CONDITIONAL INSTEAD OF PERMISSIVE IS ONE OF THE REGULATIONS. THAT JUST ADDS MORE TIME TO GETTING ONE OF THE SPACES OFF THE GROUND AND TIME IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE. WHY WOULD YOU AS A COUNCIL WANT THAT? CONDITIONAL USES CAN BE APPEALED, SENDING IT RIGHT BACK TO YOU. ALSO, WHY WOULD AN AGENCY THAT WANTS TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR SPACE GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS? IT'S A LOT OF TIME, COST AND WORK, JUST TO BE DENIED AT THE END? THE OTHER AMENDMENTS RESTRICTING THIS, I'M CONFUSED AS TO THE REASONS. THESE ARE AREAS WHERE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EXISTS. IS THAT TO MAKE THESE PLACES AS INVISIBLE AS POSSIBLE. THERE'S NOW DOUBT IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE POOR IN SUCH A RICH COUNTRY. WHY NOT SHOW SOMETHING WE'RE DOING FOR THE SHELTERED PEOPLE. THE OTHER AMENDMENT IS THEY CANNOT BE LOCATED IN AREAS THAT ARE POOR. ASSUMING WE CAN GET THE FIRST ONE OFF THE GROUND. I REMEMBER HEARING SOMETHING SIMILAR WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN BUILDING LOW INCOME HOUSING IN THE SAWMILL NEIGHBORHOOD. MANY NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING WHY ARE YOU BUILDING LOW INCOME IN A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED TO HELP PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE ENCAMPMENTS AT CORONADO PARK. >> JANE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IF COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY COULD FINISH HER COMMENT, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, I TRIED TO KEEP IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE. THEY'RE WALKING -- THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE CATCH -- CAMPUS AT CORONADO PARK. THEY'RE CLOSE TO RESOURCE. WE HAVE MANY SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE THE BEST EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE IN NEW MEXICO. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WALKING AROUND WITH HOUSING VOUCHERS THEY CANNOT USE. AND IT'S ALREADY GETTING WORSE. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU THAT. FINDING OUTDOOR SPACS ARE NOT PERMANENT AND THEY CAN BE TAKEN DOWN IF THEY BECOME A PROBLEM. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. PLEASE MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE THIS MUCH-NEEDED OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE SAFE, SECURE SHELTER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THANK YOU. >> JANE, FOLLOWED BY DOREEN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I AM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBER. SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN TO A POINT I'VE MADE IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. THAT IS THETY -- NECESSITY IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN DECIDING LAND USE MATTERS. THE RECENTLY PASSED NARROW USES LANGUAGE TO AFFIRM THAT. THE CONSTRUCTIVE INTERFACE BETWEEN CITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, ENGAGING THROUGH THE LENS OF PROMOTING STRONG AND INFORMED PARTICIPATION. LAND USE AND ZONING DECISIONS ARE AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THIS COUNCIL MAKES IN THE WAY THEY AFFECT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. I HOPE THE COUNCIL MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO ASSURE INFORMED AND GENUINE PUBLIC INPUT AT EVERY POINT IN THE DISCUSSION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF LAND USE MATTERS. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? FIRST, THE INTERCOALITION COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED DETAILED OUTLINE CHANGES TO THE IDO PROCESS THAT I THINK WOULD FURTHER THAT OBJECTIVE. SECONDLY, I HOPE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL ASSURE THERE'S A PUBLIC REVIEW OFFICE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONSEQUENTIAL LANT USE AND INCLUDING THOSE THAT CONFLICT WITH THE IDO. ALSO, I WROTE THIS BEFORE I HEARD TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. I AM REALLY GRATEFUL FOR HEARING THAT. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I REALLY THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. I ALSO THOUGHT THEY AFFIRM THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DOREEN, FOLLOWED BY GABRIEL. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE ARE JUST NORTH OF DOWNTOWN NORTH OF MOUNTAIN BETWEEN THE RAILROADS AND 12th STREET. AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WE SUPPORT BOTH SUPPORTIVE AND PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A PRIMARY COMMUNITY GOAL TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPOSALS AS OUTLINES IN THE AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES -- WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SERVE AS A STOP GAP THAT ALLOWS FOR FURTHER DELAY FOR CREATING SUBSTANTIAL ADDITION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WELLS PARK OPPOSES THE LIVING LOTS AMENDMENT. THIS PROPOSAL HAS NOT BEEN VETTED BY THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT HAD AN ADEQUATE TIME TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL. THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALSO CURRENTLY OPPOSES OPTION THREE FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. HOWEVER, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY WHEN DRAFTING LEGISLATION TO GET COMMUNITY BUY IN ON THESE TYPES OF SERVICES CRITICAL FOR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE PERMANENT. WE SENT WRITTEN COMMENTS REGARDING SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE MADE TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SO IT CAN FURTHER COMMUNITY BUY IN FOR THE PROPOSALS. ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE PROPOSE ING A DISTANCE OF 1500 FEET BETWEEN ANY OUTDOOR SPACE AND A SEPARATION OF 1500 FEET OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND OVERNIGHT SHELTER. WE ALSO WOULD ENCOURAGE A CAP ON THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THAT WOULD BE TWO PER COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND NO MORE THAN ONE PER COUNCIL DISTRICT UNTIL EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS ONE SO WE AS A CITY HAVE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE SERVICES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> GABRIEL, FOLLOWED BY RICARDO. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCIL, I'M A MEMBER OF THE WELLS PARK COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE QUALITY SAFETY OFFICER FOR DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY MEDICINE. I WANT TO SAY VERY CLEARLY, I LIKE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF A -- LARGER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SERVICES TO WORK WITH A VARIETY OF PEOPLE. [ INAUDIBLE ]. I DEAL WITH THEM WHEN THEY GET SICK. I TAKE CARE OF THEM THERE. PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. MY CONCERN, AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I SAW. WHAT WAS SHOWN TO ME OF THE FIRST PRESENTATION. MY PROBLEM IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IT'S SO LACKING IN DETAIL. I MAKE SURE THINGS ARE REPRESENTED AND CAN BE REPLICATED HAVE ASSURANCES TO THE INDIVIDUALS. FOR COMMUNITIES PARTNERS LIKE UNM AND SERVICE PROVIDERS WE KNOW WHAT THIS WILL BE. WHAT IS SECURITY? WHAT IS ADEQUATE HIGH >> WE QUESTION THE PROMS OF SUPPORTING AND ALLOWING PERMANT CAMP USES. LEGAL CHALLENGING OUR ZONING CODE TO PERMIT THOSE WHO LIVE IN TENTS INDEFT >> AND OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH FELLOW HUMANS LIVING IN SUCH CONDITIONS. OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS DON'T DESERVE TO BE PERMANENTLY RELEGATED. IF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AS A CONCEPT TO PROVIDE FOR LOWER BARRIER OPTIONS TO UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS IS ANAPPROACH THE CITY WANTS TO TAKE, WELLS PARK BELIEVES THERE MUST BE STRICT LIMITATIONS. AND CREATE AND PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ADDRESS OTHER ROUTE COSS -- CAUSES. I ALSO ADD THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE AN ANALYSIS ON THE DISTRICT. I THINK EQUITY REQUIRES ALL DISTRICT LOOK AT THE MAP AND SEE THE ZONES RELATIVE TO THE YARD ZONES AND THE DISTANCE OF THE COMMUNITY. SEE WHICH COMMUNITIES ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE IMPACTED AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES. >> ARTHUR FOLLOWED BY RANDY. >> I'M ATHER, AND I'M ALSO ON THE WELLS PARK BOARD. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED, WE'RE IN THE MOST HISTORIC CENTER OF ALBUQUERQUE. BECAUSE OF OUR CENTRAL LOCATION AND EXTRA RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WELLS PARK IS A DYNAMIC AREA WITH POTENTIAL FOR FURTHER GROWTH. WE ARE ALSO ONE OF THE TWO CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT CONTAIN A MAJORITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S SERVICES FOR UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. IN ADDITION, WE'RE ALSO HOME TO CORONADO PARK, THE CITY'S CURRENT DE FACTO ENCAMPMENT AND MAIN PICK UP DROP OFF FOR THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. CREATED HOMELESSNESS IN THIS AREA HAS RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. ON THE OPINION PAGE OF LAST TUESDAY'S ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL, BUSINESS OWNERS WRITE ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES OF DEALING WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEARBY TENT CITY. THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES OF THE CITY HAVE CREATED THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE WELLS PARK AREA. BY PUSHING THE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE, THE WELLS PARK AREA HAS CONTINUED TO BE OVER BURDENED AND THE LOCATION OF NUMEROUS SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR HOMELESSNESS IS NOT A WELLS PARK ISSUE, IT'S A CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE ISSUE. IT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL CITIZENS OF OUR CITY TO SHARE THE BURDEN OF INCORPORATING HIGH IMPACT SERVICES AND LAND USES INTO THEIR DISTRICT. EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF SERVICES OF LAND USES AIMED AT ASSISTING THEM IS VITAL FOR AVOID -- THANK YOU. >> RANDY FOLLOWED BY [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> I'M THE -- MY TWO MINUTES, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE POSITIONS OF FIVE AMENDMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IN THE IDO. A2, 10, 11, C9 AND 13. WE ARE IN SUPPORT. THE OTHER THREE REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPLAPGZ. THE HOTEL CONVERSIONS TO RESIDENTIAL USES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT EXPANDED. WE BELIEVE THIS CREATIVE OPTION TO GET MORE RENTAL UNITS ON THE ALBUQUERQUE MARKET IS GREAT, BUT BY ONLY ALLOWING THE SOLUTION TO BE APPLIED THROUGH FUNDING THROUGH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES YOU'RE EXCLUDING A WIDE VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT CAN PARTICIPATE IN GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED. ON B9, THE PREAPPLICATION REVIEW TEAM MEETING, WE SUPPORT THEM BEING VOLUNTARY. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE EFFICIENT, VALUABLE, AND TIMELY. WE KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS HELPFUL FOR SOME APPLICANTS AND FOR THE CITY. WE SEE THE VALUE IN KEEPING THEM IN THE IDO WHILE ALSO MAKING THEM OPTIONAL FOR MOST PROJECTS. FINALLY B13. THE REPLACEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF POLICIES THAT MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS MORE PREDICTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND EFFICIENT. SINCE THIS SWEEPING AMENDMENT WAS GIVEN TO US JUST A WEEK AGO WE'RE EVALUATING THE IMPACTS TO SEE IF IT ACCOMPLISHED THE GOALS. WITH MY MEMBERSHIP, IT'S GOTTEN A LUKEWARM RECEPTION. WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THERE MAY BE. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK TO BE INCLUDED IN CONVERSATIONS AROUND THIS AMENDMENT. >> BRADLEY FOLLOWED BY GWEN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THERE ARE TWO ELEMENTS TO DEALING SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN TENTS AND SLEEPING ON THE GROUND. THERE'S OVER 400 OF THEM. BY THE CITY'S COUNT. THERE ARE 170 ENCAMPMENTS. THEY'RE SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE CITY. THE FIRST ELEMENT IS THAT WE HAVE TRESPASSING STATUTES. ALL CITY PARKS MUST CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT AND STAY CLOSED UNTIL 6 A.M. ANYBODY WHO IS IN A CITY PARK WHEN IT'S CLOSED IS GUILTY OF TRESPASSING. THE FINE IS UP TO $500. AND UP TO 90 DAYS IN JAIL. TRESPASSING ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S POSTED IS UP TO $300 AND UP TO 90 DAYS IN JAIL. NONE OF THOSE TRESPASSING STATUTES ARE BEING ENFORCED. IF WE DON'T ENFORCE THESE TRESPASSING STATUTES, WE DO NOT HAVE A PRAYER OF MAKING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, THE LIVING LOTS, WHATEVER ALTERNATIVES WE COME UP WITH, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THE WAY IT SHOULD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE PEOPLE INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE SOME PERSONALDIGNITY, BE ABLE TO TAKE A SHOWER, USE THE BATHROOM, HAVE AN ADDRESS, BE ABLE TO WORK WITH CASE MANAGERS AND OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS SO THEY CAN GET I.D.'S. THAT WAS FAST. THANK YOU. >> GWEN, FOLLOWED BY PETER ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE SUPPORT FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I NOTICED THAT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL BE LIMITED TO ZONING MXM AND MXH. I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE IMPACT AND CONCERNS AND HOW THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE. THE MESSAGES, I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE MESSAGE THAT SENDS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT THEN WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE OUR NEIGHBOR. BECAUSE ALSO SOME OF THESE ARE EXEMPT FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT YOU TO INVITE YOU TO CONSIDER OPENING THE ZONING PLACES THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES CAN GO. WE WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE PEOPLE WORTHY OF CONNECTION AND SUPPORT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PUT ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE NOT SEEN. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S FEAR AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE WRAPPED UP INTO THE COMPLEXITIES OF HOMELESSNESS. AND THEY ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING. AND THAT'S A VITAL PROBLEM. AND PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS MOVE TOWARD CHOOSING COMMUNITY OVER BUILDING SEPARATING. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THINKING ABOUT SAFETY, SAFETY IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF A THREAT, IT'S THE PRESENCE OF CONNECTION. >> WE'LL MOVE TO THE ZOOM SPEAKERS. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS PETER. FOLLOWED BY PATRICIA. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, I'M PETER. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE -- NEIGHBORHOOD HILLS ASSOCIATION. WE SUPPORT A12 OPTION THREE AND B6. WE PROVIDE FOR 24-7 STAFFING, STAFT AND SUPPORT, WITH PERMISSIVE LOCATIONS WITH NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONES. WE DO NOT SUPPORT D3 OR B2'S LACK OF SAFETY. WE OPPOSE B14. WE SUPPORT THE EPC RECOMMENDATION THAT OVERNIGHT SHELTERS BE CONDITIONAL USE IN THE MXH AND MXM EXPANDING LOCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WHILE MITIGATING NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT. THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSES IDO CHANGE. THREE, WE SUPPORT B8 AND IT SUPPORTS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HELPING ENSURE THAT SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES ARE BORN FAIRLY ACROSS THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. WE OPPOSE B4 AS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROVIDE FOR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE SAME TIME. WE OPPOSE B7 FOR MXH AND MXM ARE OFTEN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTS AND MOST AVAILABLE FOR ALONG EAST CENTRAL AND NORTH SAN MAT EO. WE SUPPORT THE INDEX TO REDUCE BURDEN, BUT WE OPPOSE THE EXCEPTION. WE OPPOSE THE CURRENT IDO PROCESS THAT DOES NOT ALLOW PRESIDENTS TO REVIEW INFORMATION IN A REASONABLE TIME TRAM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST. >> PATRICIA WILSON FOLLOWED BY DAN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, AT NOON LAST FRIDAY I RECEIVED THE LATEST IDO FLOOR AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. 111 PAGES. I SPENT SEVERAL HOURS PAGING THE SIX-PAGE DOCUMENT EMAILED TO THE COUNCIL CLERK OVER THE WEEKEND. HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MY COMMENTS ON EACH AMENDMENT AS I CANNOT GO THROUGH THEM IN 90 SECONDS. THE IDO ANNUAL UPDATE IS A THREE-STEP PROCESS. FIRST EPC, THEN LUPS, AND FULL COUNCIL. AFTER THE FIRST TWO STAGES HAVE BEEN COMPLECOMPLETED, WE'RE PRE WITH BRAND NEW AMENDMENTS. AT LAST WEEK'S PRESENTATION WE WERE TOLD BY STAFF THAT THE NEW AMENDMENTS WERE JUST MODIFICATIONS AND NOT NEW PROPOSALS. WHAT ABOUT B13 REPLACEMENT OF THE DRV? I'VE BEEN REVIEWING AMENDMENTS SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THERE'S BEEN NOTHING ABOUT REPLACING THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH A DESIGN HEARING OFFICER. SECTION 6-7 POLICY DECISIONS CLEARLY DEFINES THE PROCESS FOR AMENDMENT TO IDO TEXT CITY WIDE. STAFF REVIEWS THE APPLICATION, FORWARDS RECOMMENDATION, EPC CONDUCTS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL CONDUCTS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MAKES A DECISION. IF THEIRS IS SOME PLACE IN THE LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS NEW PROPOSALS TO BE INSERTED AFTER EPC'S NOTICE OF DECISION, I RESPECTFULLY ASK MR. MELENDREZ TO POINT THAT OUT TO ME AND EXPLAIN THE RISKS AND POTENTIAL LIABILITIES OF THE CITY NOT FOLLOWING ITS OWN RULES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DAN, FOLLOWED BY RENÉ. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, OUR CITY AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND STRONG CONCURRENCE INITIATED A FOUR-YEAR PROCESS AND PAID CLOSE TO$2 MILLION. MUCH OF IT TO OUT OF STATE TO TELL US HOW ZONING IN OUR CITY SHOULD WORK. A NEW IDO WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL IN LATE 2017 AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF 95% OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CITY RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE OUT. THIS IDO HAS BEEN REVISED WITH NEW AMENDMENTS EACH YEAR SINCE 2019. THE AMENDMENT PROCESS IS SPELLED OUT CAREFULLY IN THE IDO ITSELF AS MS. WILSON JUST ATTESTED TO. THAT PROCESS DOES NOT INCLUDE AMENDMENTS CREATED AFTER THE EPC AND LUPS WORK IS DONE. EACH YEAR THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO ADD COUNCIL AMENDMENTS TO THOSE WHICH WERE MADE THROUGH THE PRESCRIBED IDO PROCESS. THE USE OF COUNCIL AMENDMENTS WITHIN THE LAST MONTH OF A SEVEN TO EIGHT-MONTH PROCESS EXCLUDES ANY SIMBLANCE OF NOTICE OF OR AWARENESS OR PARTICIPATION WITH THE PUBLIC. COUNCIL AMENDMENTS THIS YEAR HAVE REACHED CONFUSIONING ITERATION AND GIVES CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT THE WHOLE AREA OF CANNABIS USE, SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND ESPECIALLY THE FUNCTIONING OF THE DRB ARE NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. EVEN NOW -- AND THE ONGOING CHANGES TO THE AMENDMENTS ARE BEGINNING TO RESEMBLE FLAGS OR FIRES BEING BLOWN BY RAPIDLY CHANGING WINDS. ALL OF THESE AREAS NEED CAREFUL EXAMPLEINATION, INFORMATION AND CRITICAL THOUGHT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL SHELVE ALL AMENDMENTS AND PACKETS AND WORK ON THE RESEARCH NEEDS TO CRAFT WISE VERSIONS OF THEM WHEN READY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND TIME. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ENÉ FOLLOWED BY DYLAN. >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. I'M WITH THE WEST SIDE COALITION AND THE TAYLOR RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AS THE LAND USE DIRECTOR, I DID SEND MY COMMENTS THIS MORNING. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF MY THOUGHTS ON THINGS BASED AS A LAND USE DIRECTOR. I DO AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, THESE ARE TOO MANY AMENDMENTS AND THEY'RE TOO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH ZONING ISSUES AND SOCIAL ISSUES AND TO ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS ALL THESE AMENDMENTS AT CITY COUNCIL IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO GET A GOOD OUTCOME IN ALL THESE AMENDMENTS. I'LL FOCUS ON A -- I'LL TRY TO GET THREE IN. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE HOMELESS. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I DO AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DETAILS TO ASSURE A GOOD OUTCOME. AND BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN AND WHAT THE PEOPLE FROM DENVER, THE LADIES FROM DENVER SAID, THEY HAVE SOME GOOD SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BUT YOU STILL HAVE DRUG ISSUES, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ADDRESSED IN THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF HOMELESSNESS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. IT'S NOT JUST HARDSHIP CASES, BUT IT IS DRUG ADDICTION AND MENTAL ILLNESS. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED HAVING THESE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES PLACED TOO CLOSE TO THEIR BUSINESSES OR RESIDENCE. WE NEED A BETTER DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO BE INFORMED BECAUSE THIS IS FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT PRESENTATION. REAL QUICK, PLEASE DO NOT GET RID OF THE DRB. I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THEM. I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THEM. AND THAT'S I'LL -- FOR PARKING REDUCTION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT REDUCING PARKING. LET ME SAY ONE THING, I HEAR TOO MANY HORROR STORIES AND IT HAS NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY. >>COUN. BENTON: YOUR TIME SUP. >> DYLAN, FOLLOWED BY LEZLY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I BELIEVE THAT -- I HOPE YOU GOT TO READ MY WRITTEN COMMENTS I SUBMITTED EARLIER. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF INTO OPTION THREE THAT ADDS A LOT OF THESE REVISIONS IN THE FLOOR AMENDMENTS WHICH ADS RESTRICTIONS. I THINK IT CAN BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION WHERE IT FITS THE ZONING AND WHERE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO GO. I THINK THIS IS SETTING UP THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FOR FAILURE. WE SHOULD REVERT BACK TO OPTION TWO FROM LUPS. ON THE OTHER HAND, RESTRICTIONS ON UNAUTHORIZED ENCAMPMENTS. IT'S A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER. IF SOMEONE IS WILLING TO TOLERATE BEING SHUFFLED AROUND EVERY TWO WEEKS BY THE POLICE, THEN THEY CAN SIMPLY PITCH A TENT. WE HAVE ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS FOR A SAFE, MANAGED SPACE. IT'S JUST A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER FOR AN UNAUTHORIZED ENCAMPMENT. IT TELLS ME THE COUNCIL WOULD RATHER HAVE PEOPLE CAMPING IN PARKS, ON SIDEWALKS, IN BUSINESS PARKING LOTS, I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THERE NEEDS TO BE STRUCTURE. BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE IN THE IDO. THAT NEEDS TO BE TAYLORED BY THE ORGANIZERS TO EACH OUTDOOR SPACE. AND AS A SMALL BUSINESS PERSON, I OPENED A USE BOOK STORE EAST OF NOB HILL. I DO MY PART AND HAVE A TWO-TENT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE BEHIND MY STORE. THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES HERE. IT MAKES SENSE TO REQUIRE CONDITIONAL ZONING AND USE PERMITS. ALL OF THAT TIME AND EXPENSE IT MAKES SENSE TO REQUIRE ME TO HAVE 24-7 SUPPORT FOR TWO PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. NEXT SPEAKER IS LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO MOST OF WHAT'S IN AMENDMENT B14. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AMENDMENT, AND THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THE DEFINITION OF OVERNIGHT SHELTER BECAUSE I WORK WITH THE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AROUND THE GATEWAY SITE. THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DON'T OPPOSE THE GATEWAY CENTER OPERATING AS A SHELTER. WHAT THEY WANT ARE REASONABLE CONDITIONS ON THE OPERATION OF THAT SHELTER. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN OPPOSING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP BOTH MXH AS CONDITIONAL USE, NOT CHANGE IT TO PERMPERMISSIVE. AND MXM WOULD MAKE THAT PERMISSIVE. THAT SHOULD ALSO BE CONDITION. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE EPC ADOPTED IN DECEMBER. THEY HELD THAT BOTH IN MXM AND MXH IT WOULD BE CONDITIONAL USE. CONDITIONAL USE, I'M GOING TO REVIEW SOME OF THE OTHER USES IN THE MXH ZONE THAT ARE CONDITIONAL NNICOTINE, GROPE HOME, OUTDOOR STORAGES, CAMPGROUND, SELF-STORAGE, ARE CONDITIONAL USE. WITH NO LIMITATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO CAN BE IN OVERNIGHT SHELTER. IT'S REASONABLE TO BE CONDITIONAL USE AND THE CITY SHOWS THERE'S GOING TO BE MINIMAL ADVERSE IMPACTS. AND THOSE BE MITIGATED. I OPPOSE AMENDMENT B14. I THINK THE DEFINITION OF OVERNIGHT SHELTER NEEDS TO BE REVISITED. THE CURRENT DEFINITION DOES NOT ALLOW EXTENDED STAYS OVER 24 HOURS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE THE COUNCIL, COUNCILOR BENTON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SPEAKING AS AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT LIVING IN THE NEAR NORTH VALLEY DISTRICT TWO. I'M A MEMBER OF ALBUQUERQUE FRIENDS MEETING. A FAITH COMMUNITY WHO HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE PERIOD OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC IN GREETING AND PROVIDING A FEW BASIC NEEDS SUCH AS ACCESS TO WATER AND ABILITY TO SIT DOWN IN THE DAY TIME TO UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS WHO SEEK RESPITE. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS TO PROVIDE SAFE OPEN SPACES AND TEMPORARY RESOURCES TO THE UNHOUSED BECAUSE THERE A LOT OF DETAILS NEEDING TO BE PIECED TOGETHER. I ASK YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANS FOR OUTDOOR AND SPACES TO SHELTER, SERVE AND ENGAGE WITH THE UNHOUSED OF OUR CITY. ALBUQUERQUE FRIENDS SENDS A LETTER TO THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY GOVERNMENT BACK IN 2020 URGING YOU TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR LIVING OR CAMPING SPACES NEARBY FOR PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS WHO OFTEN REMAIN UNEASY ABOUT ACCEPTING INDOOR ACCOMMODATIONS, BUT DO NAED A SECURE PLACE. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES MUST BE SAFE NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT ALSO FOR THE UNHOUSED RESIDENTS THAT STAY THERE. I HOPE YOU WILL USE THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO CREATE A RANGE OF OPTIONS FOR UNHOUSED PERSONS, BOTH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT. INCLUDING TO ACCESS FOR SAFE OPEN SPACES, SANITATION, WATER WITHOUT TOO MANY LIMITING REQUIREMENTS THAT CREATE UNNECESSARY BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED A SAFE SPACE TO SPEND THE NIGHT AND FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE HELP, ENGAGEMENT, AND SUPPORT FOR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. PLEASE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE WORKING WITH UNHOUSED PERSONS AND AT-RISK PERSONS IN THE CITY. LET OUR CITY MAKE CONSTRUCTIVE CHANGES AND WISE USE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SARAH, FOLLOWED BY PEGGY. >> HELLO, AM I ON? >> YES, YOU'RE ON. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, MR. PRESIDENT FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF OUTDOOR SPACES WITHOUT TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS. THESE CAN BE INDIVIDUALLY NEGOTIATED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS JUST THE WAY THEY ARE DONE IN DENVER. I'M ALSO PART OF THE FRIENDS MEETING, THE QUAKER GROUP, AND THE WELLS PARK THAT ROSEMARY REFERENCED. SHE REFERENCED A LETTER SHE SENT TWO YEARS AGO REGARDING THIS SOLUTION BE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT'S RECOMMENDED BY CDC IN THE TIME OF COVID. WE DID GET A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND ALSO ESPECIALLY FROM COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY IN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND IN THE TWO YEARS ENSUING THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF RESEARCH AND PREPARATION GONE INTO CREATING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND MANY OF US SAW PRESENTATION ON CAMP HOPE A YEAR AND HALF AGO. WE KNOW WHAT WORKS. WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE. AND THE WORST HURDLE IS THIS ZONING RIGHT NOW. I'M URGING YOU TO PLEASE CREATE ZONING THAT EMPOWERS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN A VARIETY OF AREAS IN ALBUQUERQUE WITHOUT TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS. LET'S HAVE A SAFE, STABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY WITH DIGNITY WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR PERMANENT HOUSING. WE HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE ON OUR STEPS, AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE AND THIS WAS A VERY INFORMAL TYPE OF SURVEY. THEY HAVE ALL SAID THEY WOULD STAY IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. AND THE VAST MAJORITY HAVE SAID NO THEY WILL NOT STAY IN A SHELTER. EVEN WHEN IT GOES DOWN TO 10 DEGREES. OUR QUAKER GROUP REQUESTS IN THIS LETTER STILL STANDS. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PEGGY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS WHO ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. I DO NOT THINK IT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH O-22-10. I ASK YOU TO DEFER THE DECISION TO THIS AMENDMENT AND I ASK YOU TO CONVENE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. I'M CONCERNED THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ABUSES HAPPENING WITHIN THE IDO UPDATE PROCESS AS IT WAS INTENDED AND MARKETED AS AN ADDRESS TO UPDATE TECHNICAL AND TEXTUAL OVERSIGHTS IN THE IDO NOT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE CITY ZONING REGULATIONS. I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY REGARDING SAFE OPEN SPACES ENCAMPMENTS AND CONVERSIONS THAT CHANGE OUR BASIC DWELLING DEFINITIONS, BUT THESE ARE NOT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH GAP ANALYSIS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC JUST LAST MONTH. COUNCIL SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN PLANNING ACTIVITIES. YOU SHOULD BE DOING OVERSIGHT AND ONCE IN A WHILE PROPOSING CHANGES TO ORDINANCE. NOT APPROVING 110 LAND USE AMENDMENTS IN ONE WEEK. IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO CONTINUE THIS TYPE OF GOVERNANCE. WE NEED A BETTER PROCESS. WE, A SMALL GROUP OF EXHAUSTED PUBLIC, WHO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO THE PROCESS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR CHANGES FOR YEARS. THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOT VERY SPECIFIC AND COUNCILOR PEÑA THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO BRING IT FORWARD, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING PART OF IT UP. IN ORDER TO DO GOOD PLANNING AND GOOD GOVERNANCE, YOU NEED THE FOLLOWING, AN X AMOUNT OF NUMBERS TO BE EFFECTED. A STATEMENT REGARDING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, THE COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED TO EACH AMENDMENT, AN EXAMPLE OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES. FUNDING FOR THE OPERATION FOR SAFE OPEN SPACES -- WHERE THE EXPERTS? WHERE THE PLANS? PLEASE LISTEN TO THOSE WHO SAY TAKE TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR UNIQUE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT. I'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT ONE MORE SPEAKER BE HEARD. MS. DENISE BAKER. >>COUN. BENTON: SHE DID NOT SIGN UP TO SPEAK. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK IT WAS AN ERROR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WITH THE LIST FULL OF FOLKS, AND HER NAME DID NOT SHOW UP ON THE LIST. I SUGGEST THAT THE PROCESS WORKED FOR PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ERROR THE SPEAKER EXPERIENCED. SHE'S NOT ON THE LIST. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'VE GOT A LONG AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR DINNER BREAK. [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE THEY ARE. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY YOUR TESTIMONY -- >> I DO. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO START WITH A PRESENTATION THAT'S GOING TO COVER A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. FIRST A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY ON THE 2021 ANNUAL ITEM DO UPDATE AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. AND I WILL DIVE IN TO EACH INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENT. I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN AND BEGIN MY PRESENTATION. WHEN I DO GET TO THE AMENDMENT PORTION I'LL PAUSE AFTER EACH SLIDE AFTER EACH INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENT AND IF COUNCILORS HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE CAN TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME AS I GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. MR. MOYA, IS MY PRESENTATION SHOWING CORRECTLY? >> YES. YOU'RE GOING TO -- GOOD TO GO. >> I'M THE COUNCIL PLANNING MANL FOR THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL. AND I WILL BEGIN MY PRESENTATION ON THE IDO. HERE'S A BIT OF A TIMELINE FOR THIS YEAR'S IDO ANNUAL UPDATE. THE COUNCIL WILL UPDATE ONCE A YEAR THAT IS REQUIRED IN THE IDO. THAT ONCE A YEAR WE CRACK UP THE BOOK AND MAKE FIXES AND MNLS CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE. THIS PROCESS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER 2021 WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT COMPILED AND DISTRIBUTED A LISTF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC. IN OCTOBER 2021, THAT SAME DEPARTMENT HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS AND OPEN HSES TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENTS AND GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY LIKED AND DIDN'T LIKE AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE FORMALLY SUBMITTED. MOVING TO DECEMBE 2021 T ENVIRONMENAL PLANNING COMMISSION WHO IS THE FIRST REEW AND APPROVAL IN THIS PROCESS HEARD THE FIRST STAB AT THE AMENDMENT. WHY HELD OE PUBC HEARING IN DECEMBER, THEY TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT AND MADE THE RECOMMDATION OF THE FULL CITY COUNCIL. IN FEBRUARYF 2022, COUNCIL RECEIVED THAT PACKET OF AMENDMENTS. WHICH BROUGHT U TO MCH AND APRIL 2022 WHEN THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LAND USE AND ZONIN ON COUNCIL AGENDAS HEAR 0-22-10 AT THRE DIFFEREN HEARINGS. THE FIRS WAS MARCH 16, 30, AND APRIL 13. I'LL TAL MORE ABOUT WHAT PPENED AT LUPS SHORTL STLY, YOU CAN SEE THE LTLE LAG THAT SYS WE'RE HERE. THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE LAS STOP FOR THIS PACKET OF ENDMENTS FOR THE 2021IDO ANNUALUPDATE. LET ME TALK A LITTLE BITBOUT THE EPC PRS. THEY HEARDWOEPARATE APICATIONS. ONE F AMENDMEN TO CITYWID REGULATIONS A ATHER FOR AMENDMENTS SPECIIC TO THE OLD TOWN OVERLAYZO. YOU HEARD PUBLIC COMNT AND T BUCKETS TOGHT. THAT FIRST SET O PUBC COM S SPECIFIC TO CHANGESROPOSED TOHO, ALL OF THEHANGES ARE COMPILEDNTO O BILL BEFORE YOTONIGHT. 22-10. FIRST, I'M GG TO BEGINWITH A I OVERIEW ON THE PROPOSED CHAES TO THE OLD TOW HPO5. THE PROPOSAL THAT THE ENVIROENTALLANNING MMISON CONSIDER AD RECOMMENDED WS RATED TO CANNABISSES IN OTOWN EROPOSAL WAS THAT THE TEE CANNABIS LAND USE REGULATES REIL CULTIVION AND PRODUCTSANUFACTURINE PROHITEDITHIN THELDOWN BOUNDAR WHICH YOU CAN SE DEPICTED ON T MAP. EVERYTHIITHIN THE BL AREA IS OLD TOWN HPO THEEPC RECEIVE CMES OF SUPPORT TO PROBIT TSE CANNABISES IN OLDOWN AND COMMEND TO THOUNCIL TOSE RE USESO BE PROHIBED. THEY ASO HRDROPOD CITYWE CHANGE THERE' ASPREADSHEET OF 75 DIFFERE TOPCS- AMEMENTS HAT WERE ACROSS A VARIETY OF PICS THAT AFFECTE ALMOS ALL SECTIONSFHE IDO. E EPC TOO PUBLI OMME. AND TE PIC REALLY ONLY SKE ABOUT TWO IUES O OF THE 75. THEAJORITY OTHE PUBLIC COMMEN WERE O TWO SUES. TH FIRST RELATED TO ERNIGHT SHELTERS. ERE'S AN ORIGINAL PSALO E FROM NOLLO TO PERMISSIVE AND T MXH ZONEO PERMISSIVE TOCOITIONAL THE C TOOK THA PUBLIC COMMENT, WEIED THAT PUBLIC COMMT AECOMMENDED MIDDLEGROUND T THEOUNCIL ICH IS AN OVERGHT SHELTER WOULD BECONDITNA IN AND MAICONDITIONALN MXH. THATS TONIGHT WITHOU ANY FURTHERMENDMENTS PROPOSED. E OTH HO TOPIC WAS RELATED TO TALLER WALLS. IN THE ID CANNOT HAVE A WALLALLER THAN THRE FEET THERE' APROSAL TO RAISE THAT FR FEET. THE C RECOMMENDED TTDONOT APPROVE. THAT IS N WHIN THE SPE OF THEI NIGH OTHER THANHOSE TWO HOTTOPICS, EEPC UNANIMOUSLOMMENDED AMENDMENTSR THE REST OTHE AS I MENTION THE LDSE PLANNAND ZINGMITTEE HELD THREE HEARINGS IN THE MONTH OF MCH AND APL AN THE COMMITEE PSE3OTAL AMENDMENTS. THE BL THA'S BEFOREHE COCIL TONIGHTS 22-10 A MENDED BY THEAND USE COMMIT PACKTSE FOUND ON THE PLANNING WEB PAE. IF YOU LKE A FU COLCTIONF E AMENDMENTS CONSIDER. WHETHER THEYER PAED, MOVED OR NOT VED. THOSE ARE ON THE WEBSE. THAT BRING US TO T AMENDMENTS BEFORE T COUNCIL NIGHT. THE ARE THE ANDMESHEY DID NOT CODER. THESE ARE NEW TICS AND IDEAS. THE COUNCIL HAS PER VIEW TO PROPEMENT WE'VE GOT ABOUT 15 OR 1 AMENDMTSO REEW. I WL TAKEHEM ONE AT A TIM AND GVE YOU A BRIEF DCRIPTION WHA THE AMEMENTS PROPOSE TO DO AND I'LL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONSON EACH INDIVIDU ONE. THE FST O IS RELATED T THE PROPOSAL FORHITION ON CANNBIS USESN OLD TON. AMENDMENT LABELLED B1ROPOSES TO SAY TANSTEAD OF A F FOR -- OHIBITION, IT ULBE ALLOWED IF THE RETAILERAS A MICROBUSINESS. ETATE HAS TWO LEVELSF LICENSES THEY CANSSUE CANNABIS RETAILS. ONE IS A REGULAR LAANCE -- CENSE AND THE OTHER A MIOBUSINESS LICENSE. TRYING TO TARGET SMALLER, LOCAL OPERATORS. AMENDMENT B WOULD PROPOSE THAT RETALERS WITH A MICROBUSINES LICENSE WOULD BE PERTTED IN THE OLD TOWN HP05. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIS? >>COUN. BENT: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE DEBATE THE AS WE GO? I GUES IT'S UP TO THE COUNCILO. >> MR. PRESIDT, THAT IS THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNCIL. STAFF IS READY TO DO IT EITHER WAY. >>COUN. BENTON: IF IT'S OKAY, IT WOULDE [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>UN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESENT, I WOULD MOVE B1 >>COUN. BENTON: THIS WOULD BE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT. CONSISTENTITH MY RECUSAL, I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS MATTER. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ASKED MS. SCHULTZ TO DEVELOP. I THINK HAVING MICROBUSINESSES FOR CANNABIS SHOULD BE ALLOWED. I DON'T SEE JUSTIFICATION FOR EXCLUDING THIS NEW, COMPLETELY LEGAL, INDUSTRY FROM OLD TOWN. WE DO NOT EXCLUDE THEM FROM ANY OTHER HISTORIC PART OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND THERE ARE MANY PARTS OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT ARE HISTORIC. THEY ARE NOT BEING EXCLUDED FROM ANY OTHER JURISDICTION. THE SANTA FE PLAZA IS HISTORIC, THERE'S NO EXCLUSION. SINCE WE HAVE SAID YOU CAN'T HAVE FULL LIQUOR LICENSE, YOU CAN HAVE MICROBREWERIES, I URGE SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY ONE QUESTION IS WE HAVE PROHIBITED SMOKING OF CANNABIS ON THE SIDE WALK IN THE CITY. WOULD THAT EXTEND OVER? WOULD WE BE SURE THAT EXTENDING INTO OLD TOWN ALSO? >> THAT WOULD EXTEND. THAT IS A CITYWIDE ORDINANCE. ALL THIS IS SAYING THE SALES. YOU CAN'T SMOKE ON THE SIDE WALK ANY WEAR -- ANYWHERE IN THE STATE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. >>COUN. BENTON: I DO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. PART OF THE DISCUSSION LAST YEAR WITH REGARD TO OLD TOWN. THIS IS A LOGIC TO THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE ZERO NEGATIVE IMPACT FOR OLD TOWN. I SUPPORT IT. WE'RE ON THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 4-4 VOTE. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO B2. THIS WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IF SHE WOULDN'T MIND GIVING THE PREVIEW OF IT FIRST. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO. IT PROPOSES TO CREATE A NEW LAND USE CALLED LIVING BLOCKS. THE IDEA IS IT WOULD BE FOR OCCUPANCY OF FOLKS IN TENTS, LIGHT VEHICLES, OR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. THIS AMENDMENTS OUTLINES THE ZONE DISTRICT YOU CAN DO A LIVING LOT IN THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIVE IN ALL OF THE MIXED USE ZONES. AND ALSO PERMISSIVE IN MOST OF THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONES. THAT'S NRC, NRBP, AND NRGM, AN ALSO CREATES ONE USE SPECIFIC STANDARD TO SAY HAND-WASHING STANDARDS AND TOILETS WOULD BE REQUIRED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOES TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I WANT TOHAVE A RED LINE DRAFT. I WOULDN'T MIND DISCUSSING THIS A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE'RE HERE. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY PEOPLE REGARDING LIVING LOTS. WHAT I USED TO CALL DIRT. I THINK WE NEED A FIRST STEP. I MADE NOTES LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALK TONIGHT ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT. WHETHER IT BE ONE SIDE ORT OTHER. I WANT TO REFLECT ON THAT WITHOUT TAKING TOO MUCH TIME. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR HELP. THEY ARE SAYING THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMPATHY OR SYMPATHY FOR THE HOMELESS. OR WHETHER IT'S THEY'RE FOR EXAMPLES FRUSTRATED OR FED UP WITH THE DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS. PEOPLE DON'T WANT -- THEY WANT SOMETHING TO BE DONE BUT NOT IN THEIR BACKYARD. THEY WANT US TO HAVE VISION, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO TRY SOMETHING. IT'S THIS HUGE OY MORE -- BLN . >>COUN. BASSAN: LET'S NOT DO A HUGE INVESTMENT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO COST US A FORTUNE. IT'S IDENTIFYING PROPERTY THE CITY OWNS. THERE'S COUNTY COMMISSIONERS INTERESTED. THERE'S APS SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS WILLING TO IDENTIFY PLACES THAT ARE VACANT. WHY NOT GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY, DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO ADD INFRASTRUCTURE, DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE PERFECT SOLUTIONS. THOSE ARE IDEALS. WE ALL WANT THOSE. INSTEAD, WE NEED A LOW-COST, LOW BARRIER COMPROMISE. WE CAN HAVE ACS GO OUT. WE CAN CAN BUILD RAPPORT. APD CAN DO THE IDEA OF COMMUNITY POLICING. THE THING IS THIS IS STEP ONE. AND THE HARDEST THING FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH TO PEOPLE IS THIS IS STEP ONE. AND IT'S IDEALLY VERY TEMPORARY. WITH IT BEING SUPER TEMPORARY, WE CAN SAY, YOU CAN CAMP, YOU CAN BE IN YOUR TENT, YOU CAN DO YOU, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT ANYWHERE. YOU HAVE TO PICK SOMEWHERE TO GO THAT WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THE OPTION. WE HAVE THE DOJ, WE HAVE THE CASA, WE HAVE ACLU, WE NEED OPTIONS. WE CAN'T GET UP 100% BARRIERS. WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. AND PEOPLE ARE CAMPING EVERYWHERE. PEOPLE ARE DEFECATING ANYWHERE. PEOPLE NEED HELP THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. WE'RE TIRED OF IT. THEY'RE FRUSTRATED OF IT. WE JUST HEARD WE DON'T GET THEM. WE DON'T SEE THEIR PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T HAVE PERSPECTIVE. LET'S TRY SOMETHING AND THAT'S LIVING LOTS. IF YOU DON'T GO TO ONE OF THESE OPTIONS OR TINY HOME OR THE GIBSON OR NON-PROFITS, THESE ARE OPTIONS WE'RE PROVIDING. THIS IS THE LOWEST BARRIER FOR THE FIRST STEP SO WE CAN START MINIMIZING THE HOMELESS POPULATION WE HAVE IN ALBUQUERQUE BY GETTING TO THEM, THE ONES THAT WANT HELP AND THE ONES THAT NEED LEM. AND THE ONES THAT ARE LEFT, I CAN'T BEGIN TO DECIDE HOW TO HELP BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE. THAT'S THE LAST PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION THAT IS THE HIGHEST NEED. LIVING LOT, YOU CAN DO IT BUT ONE OF THE LOCATION, YOU CAN'T HURT PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T STEAL, YOU CAN'T DO IT ANYWHERE. SO WE CAN GAIN OUR PARKS BACK, OUR SIDEWALKS, OUR STREETS, OUR BUSINESSES. THIS IS WHAT ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS AND HAS BEEN ASKING FOR. GUESS WHAT, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE DIDN'T SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TRY IT. WITH THAT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WEAN WE COME BACK WITH THE RED LINE VERSION, I DO WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE CHANGES. I WANT IT TO INCLUDE INSTEAD OF ONE TOILET PER FIVE OCPANTS, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ONE TOILET PER FIVE SPACES. I'M TALKING SPRAY PAINT PEOPLE. I'M TALKING SPRAY PAINT ON THE GROUND TO DESIGNATE A SPACE. SIMPLE, LOW BARRIER. AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD SOMETHING I LEARNED TODAY WHILE TALKING TO DENVER, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. PUTTING A TIMELINE ON THIS. I'M SERIOUS WHEN I SAY FOR THIS TO BE TEMPORARY. I DON'T INTEND FOR IT TO BE JUST IN WELLS PARK OR CORONADO. I DON'T INTEND FOR IT TO BE ANYWHERE BUT MY DISTRICT. THIS IS SOMETHING TEMPORARY. I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING AND EVALUATE. I WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND ALL OF THE REST OF YOU THAT I CAN TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE WE SAY THIS IS ONE YEAR WITH TWO SIX-MONTH EXTENSIONS. THAT'S WHAT DENVER IS DOING. WE CAN HAVE A COMMITMENT TO MINIMIZE THIS PROBLEM WE HAVE. AND WE CAN IN THE PROCESS OF THAT BUILD SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND IN THE PROCESS OF THAT HOPEFULLY SIX THE TINY HOME PROBLEM WE RUN INTO. AND IN THIS TIME OF THAT, WE CAN ALSO GET GIBSON HEALTH HUB GOING. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE PERFECT THINGS TO FINISH, LET'S START WITH SOMETHING. THANKS FOR LISTENING. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. GREAT IDEA. HOWEVER, DELVE -- DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. WILL YOU PUT THIS TYPE OF B2 IN ALREADY EXISTING ZONED AREAS? IF SO, WHAT ZONES WOULD THOSE FIT IN? RESIDENTIAL ZONES? WHERE EXACTLY WOULD THEY GO? WOULD THEY BE NEAR A SCHOOL? THOSE ARE QUESTIONS WE ALWAYS NEED TO ASK. WHERE EXACTLY -- WHERE DO YOU HAVE IN MIND OF WHERE THEY WOULD BE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. AND MS. SHULTZ CAN GIVE YOU THE PROPER ACROACRONYMS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING CITY PROPERTIES WE HAVE. THERE'S SOME THAT COME UP THAT WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE A VACATED THAT JUST HAVE VEHICLES FOR STORAGE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT THEM IN PLACES THAT ARE OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND FAR, FAR AWAY. THERE HAS TO BE BOUNDARIES AND EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS IS TEMPORARY. MY ANSWER TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I DISCUSS THIS IS THERE ARE TENTS EVERYWHERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. THEY'RE NEXT TO OUR HOMES, THEY'RE NEXT TO THE SCHOOLS, THEY'RE IN OUR CHURCH PARKING LOTS. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. I DON'T NECESSARILY SAY LET'S GET 100 TENTS AND PUT THEM NEXT TO A HOUSE OR SCHOOL. AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND OPEN MINDED AND KNOWING IT'S TEMPORARY AND WE CAN ACTUALLY START ACCESSING PEOPLE. AND GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO SERVICES IF WE TRY. >>COUN. JONES: IF I MAY. IT'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. WHAT IF WE HAVE A VACANT LOT NEXT TO A SCHOOL? IT'S OURS. CAN WE PUT THEM THERE? WHAT IF IF WE HAVE IT RETAIL AREA? AND THERE HAPPENS TO BE A VACANT LOT. BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHO HAS THE POWER TO DETERMINE THESE? IS IT TOSS A COIN? WHAT ARE THE DETAILS IN THIS? WILL THAT COME LATER? WE'RE JUST THROWING OUT AN IDEA? WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR JONES, YES. PART OF ME IS THROWING OUT AN IDEA. I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO DO SOMETHING. THIS IS MY IDEA. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE ABORT IT. IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WASN'T IT, I HOPE SOMEONE ELSE COMES UP WITH ANOTHER IDEA. THESE ARE GOING TO BE PERMISS IVE -- MOSTLY NONRESIDENTIAL IT'S ALREADY WRIT IN IN HERE. AGAIN, IT'S NOT SAYING IF THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT OWNED BY A CITY, WE'RE GUARANTEED TO PUT A LIVING LOT. THIS IS SAYING LET'S IDENTIFY PROPERTIES AS A CITY TO TRY THIS OUT TO MINIMIZE THE PROBLEM. GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO RESOURCES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW FROM WHAT I'M LEARNING FROM THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT I MIGHT KNOW AND WHAT I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE HIDING AND SCARED. AND THERE'S PEOPLE ABUSED. AND WE CAN'T FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE RUN IN SO MANY TERMS. IF WE HAVE TO START FORCING SOME ELEMENT OF THIS TO SAY, YOU CAN'T CAMP OVERNIGHT IN OUR PARKS BECAUSE FRANKLY A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE FOLLOWING THOSE LAWS WANT TO USE THEM DURING THE DAY AND THEY WANT TO GO THERE AND ENJOY THEM. INSTEAD, YOU CAN CAMP IN ONE OF THESE AREAS. IF WE PROVIDE OPTIONS, THEN THIS IS THE STARTING POINT THAT CAN TIP US OVER INTO CHANGE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. I LIKE THE IDEAS. I LIKE THE BIG PICTURE OF IT. BUT THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. LET'S LOOK AT IT DEEPER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. IT ALWAYS SOUNDS GOOD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, AND WHEN WE START TO DO IT -- LET'S MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND THE PARAMETERS. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THIS IS -- THIS IS VERY LIGHTLY REGULATED VERSION OF A CAMP SITE. HAS IT BEEN TRIED ELSEWHERE? >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S BEEN TRIED AND PROVEN SUCCESSFUL IN TACOMA. WE'VE RESEARCHED OTHER CITY, WE'VE BEEN CONTACT WITH THE CITY OF TACOMA. THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE US INFORMATION ON HOW THEY STARTED AND PLANS TO IMPLEMENT IT. WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT REINVENT REINVENTING THE WHEEL. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE MOVED. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT. DO WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT? >>COUN. BENTON: THE AMENDMENT HASN'T BEEN MOVED. >>COUN. LEWIS: I GUESS, MR. PRESIDENT, MAYBE CLARIFICATION. I WANT TO PUT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT ON THE RECORD AND JUST DEFER IT ALONG WITH THEM. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE AMENDMENT HASN'T BEEN MOVED, IT'S NOT ATTACKLY POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENTS ARE BEING DISCUSSED. IF YOU LIKE TO PRESENT THAT AMENDMENT FOR DISCUSSION, UNLESS SOMEBODY MOVED THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT YOU CANNOT MOVE YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I CAN AT LEAST INTRODUCE IT AND HAVE IT ON THE RECORD AND IT WILL DEFER ALONG WITH THE BILL WITH THIS AMENDMENT. DO WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT? I THINK I GAVE YOU COPIES OF THAT. MR. PRESIDENT, IS COUNCILOR BASSAN THE ONLY SPONSOR? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I'LL READ IT REAL QUICK. I'LL JUST READ IT. THIS AMENDS COUNCIL FLOOR B2 TO ADD A NEW SPECIFIC STANDARD AS FOLLOWS. AND RENUMBER SPECIFIC STANDARDS IF NECESSARY. IT SAYS THIS USE IS ONLY ALLOWED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS FOUR. YOU CAN STRIKE-OUT AND SEVEN. I THOUGHT YOU BOTH WERE SPONSORING THIS. REALLY THE AMENDMENT IS JUST THIS USE IS ONLY ALLOWED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WOULD LIKE DISTRICT SEVEN TO REMAIN IN THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL LEAVE IT THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR DISTRICTS FOUR AND SEVEN. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE IN THE I WANTED TO ADD TO THE END OF THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS, I THINK THE DETAILS ARE EXACTLY WHAT IS CAUSING THIS PRAB -- PROBLEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MIGHT ASK IF OUR STAFF CAN HELP US MAYBE. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS AND MORE INFORMATION. I THINK THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS THE SPONSOR INTRODUCED TODAY. I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD THE PATHWAY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. I WANT TO ASK IF THE STAFF CAN CREATE CHARTS TO COMPARE HOW LIVING LOTS AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS LIKE THE EXPANDED SHELTERS LINE UP AGAINST EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF ACCESS BARRIERS, SCHOOLS, ALL THOSE THINGS. IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL FOR THE DISCUSSION IF WE MOVE THROUGH DIFFERENT OPTIONS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THAT WOULD NOT BE DIFFERENT FOR STAFF TO PREPARE. WE'LL HAVE THAT READY BEFORE THE NEXT HEARING ON THIS MATTER. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NEXT IS B3. THIS IS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN IT? I KNOW THERE'S THINGS THAT ACTUALLY NULLIFY THE REST OF THE AMENDMENT. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING THROUGH THIS. I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY IN REFERENCE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE NEXT SEVERAL AMENDMENTS ARE ALL RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IT'S A LAND USE, NEW LAND USE THAT THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE DID APPROVE AS A PART OF THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL UPDATE. THE NEXT SEVERAL UPDATES GOING TO DISCUSS AIM TO AMEND WHAT THE LUMS -- LUPZ ADDED. THE AMENDMENT IS A-12 OPTION THREE THAT YOU HEARD REFERENCED IN PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. THE VERY FIRST AMENDMENT RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ PROPOSES TO RESCIND A-12 IN TOTALITY. THIS STRIKES ALL THE PROVISIONS RELATED TO ALL SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT THE LUPZ APPROVED. THE RESULT WOULD BE THERE WOULD NOT ME A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. IF THIS AMENDMENT DOES SUCCESSFULLY PASS, IT WOULD NULLIFY ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE TO AMEND. WITH THAT I STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COULD COUNCIL STAFF TELL ME IS IT TRUE THAT ONCE A PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED UNDER A PARTICULAR SET OF IDO RULES AND THE IDO CHANGES THAT PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT NEED TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY -- >> MR. PRESIDENT -- GO AHEAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE ADOPTED AND PLACED AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY. AS WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE OUR LAND USE REGULATIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT NEED TO CONFORM WITH THE NEW RULES UNTIL THEY WISH TO DO SOMETHING TO THEIR PROPERTY THAT WOULD TRIGGER COMPLIANCE TO THOSE NEW RULES. THE RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION IS WHAT THEY'RE BOUND TO COMPLY WITH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THAT, TO ME, SOUNDS LIKE IF WE HAVE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND -- OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR, AND WE FIND THEY'RE NOT WORKING, AND WE DO GO BACK AND UPDATE THE IDO AGAIN AND THAT'S FINE AND DANDY, THOSE FOUR SPACES ARE STILL THERE. WE GET THEM FOREVER. AS LONG AS THEY'RE FUNDED. THAT CONCERNS ME. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE EMERGENCIES. AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. I DON'T THINK PUTTING IT AN IDO IS A GOOD PLAN. MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A PILOT PROGRAM. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT IN THE IDO YET. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ OR COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WE DON'T PUT IN THE IDO, WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF DOING A PILOT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AT PRESENT THE CONCEPT OF A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IS NOT CONM -- CONTEMPLATED. ONE IT COULD BE A PILOT PROJECT SPONSORED BY THE CITY. IN WHICH CASE THE CITY IS THE SPONSOR AND WOULD HAVE DISCRETION OF HOW LONG IT CONTINUES TO OPERATE THAT, EVALUATE THE SUCCESS, AND OTHERWISE THE OTHER ITERATION WOULD BE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE ESTABLISHED BY A COMMUNITY GROUP. AND THAT TYPE OF SPACE COULD CONTINUE ONCE ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT A PERSON WOULD VEST IN DEVELOPING THAT TYPE OF USE. NEITHER OF THOSE DOORS WOULD BE OPEN WITHOUT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AMENDMENT WITHIN THE I DORKS IDO. AT PRESENT THE IDO CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HERE'S A NOVEL IDEA. AND THE DEVIL IS ALREADY IN THE DETAILS. LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE. WHY DON'T WE START BY ENFORCING THE EXISTING LAWS WE HAVE IN PLACE? WHY DO WE REFUSE TO FIX CORONADO PARK? AND THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD? DO WE CLOSE OUR EYES? DOES THE ADMINISTRATION CLOSE OUR EYES AS WE DRIVE BY WELLS PARK AND CORONADO PARK AS WE COME TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY? IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO. THE THAT PARK IS ILLEGAL. AND WE ALLOW IT. IT WOULD BE AN EASY PLAN TO GET THEREIN AND CLEAN THAT PARK UP AND USE IT AS A TEST SITE. AND ALSO VISITED CAMP HOPE AND I SAW WHAT WAS NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING. WE WERE INITIALLY MET AT THE ENTRANCE WHO LET US KNOW OUTSIDERS WERE NOT ALLOWED IN. IT WAS IMMEDIATELY EVIDENT THIS PLACE WAS VERY STRUCTURED AND SECURE AND IT ALSO HAD A STRICT CAMP POST. ONCE INSIDE WE WERE ABLE TO WITNESS HOW MUCH STRUCTURE WAS IN PLACE. THERE'S A DESIGNATED CAMPING PAD WITH NO PERSONAL ITEMS TO BE SEEN. EVERYTHING WAS TO BE STORED IN AN AREA. WE SPENT HOURS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THIS SITE WORK. THERE'S TWO ATTRIBUTES THAT WERE AGREED UPON, THE STRUCTURE OF THE PLACE AND ALSO THE CAMP WAS RUN WITH WRAP AROUND SERVICES ALL AROUND IT. THIS CAMP STARTED 11 YEARS AGO. IT TOOK SIX YEARS TO END UP WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TOLD THAT OTHER SIMILAR CAMP SITES IN THE SAME REGION, HOBBS FAILED REPEATEDLY. WE'RE TOLD CAMP HOPE TOOK SIX YEARS BEFORE IT WAS FUNCTIONING AT CURRENT LEVELS. ONE SAID MOVING TO LAS CRUCES WAS INEVITABLE TO LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE COULD NOT GET CLEAN. I'M 100% GIVING A HAND UP FOR THOSE IN NEED. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, I LIKE HELPING PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING A HAND UP AND READY TO DO SOMETHING. INSTEAD OF SOMEONE THAT -- HAS HAND OUT AND CONTINUE TO WANT AND WANT. WE WERE TOLD -- I'M 100% GIVING A HAND UP. THERE ARE PEOPLE, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, FELL ON HARD TIMES AND THEY NEED ASSISTANCE TO LIFT THEMSELVES BACK UP INTO A PRODUCTIVE ROLE IN SOCIETY. HOWEVER IN ALBUQUERQUE, WE'VE BEEN REPEATEDLY GIVING HANDOUTS ENABLING PREDATORS TO EXTORT AND CONTROL THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO SEEK HELP. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR SILTY STREETS CLEAN AGAIN. CAMP HOPE WORKS BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE ON-SITE SERVICES. WITHOUT THOSE IN PLACE WE'RE DESTINED TO FAIL. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY WHEN I WALKED INTO CAMP HOPE THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF IS TINY HOMES IS BETTER THAN CAMP HOPE ALL THE WAY AROUND. THEY HAVE FULLY AIR CONDITIONED SHELTERS WITH HEAT AND AN ACTUAL BED. WHY CAN'T WE GET THAT ONE TO WORK? WE ALREADY HAVE THESE FACILITIES IN PLACE, IN MY OPINION. AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY. WE NEED TO FIND OUT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT SO WE CAN GET TO INDIVIDUALS. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY WE'RE LOSING SO MANY OFFICERS. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY WE'RE NOT RETAINING OFFICERS SO THESE OFFICERS CAN GET ON THE STREETS AND HELP THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BEING -- WHY -- WHY THEY ARE VICTIM WE NEED TO CATCH THE INDIVIDUALS AND ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED IT. WHAT I SAY IS LET'S FIX CORONADO PARK. BEFORE WE MOVE ON. LET'S TASK THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO TRY THIS AT CORONADO PARK OR WEST SIDE SHELTER. WHEN THAT'S IN PLACE AND THOSE THINGS ARE FUNCTIONING, THEN I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I MOVE TO RESCIND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DO SUPPORT THIS BILL. JUST TO CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. SO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAS THIS AMENDMENT THAT RESCINDS THE AMENDMENTS MADE TO THE IDO IN COMMITTEE THAT GIVE DIRECTION FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND THERE'S ANOTHER NUMBER OF OTHER AMENDMENTS HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE RELATE TODAY THIS. IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS TONIGHT, THEN REALLY IT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT DISCUSSION AND TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS OFF THE TABLE AND THE IDEA OFF THE TABLE. I DO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES OR LIVING CITIES ARE SAFE. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE COMPASSIONATE. I BELIEVE THERE'S A BETTER WAY THAT WE CAN REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED OF OUR CITY INCLUDING DRUG TREATMENT AND MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT. I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE BEDS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW TONIGHT. THERE ARE BEDS AVAILABLE AND I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS. AND GET PEOPLE THE TREATMENT THEY NEED AND THE HELP THEY NEED. THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE POURING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THAT TREATMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT SHELTERS AVAILABLE THAT HAVE RUNNING WATER AND HEAT THAT ARE HUMANE AND COMPASSIONATE. I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS. ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, JUST BEING HONEST, THERE'S REALLY NOBODY IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAS VOICED ANY KIND OF SUPPORT FOR THIS. I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO FIND SOLUTIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS US TO DO SOMETHING IF THAT SOMETHING IS THE WRONG THING. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE WANT IT TIN MY DISTRICT. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DO IN THE ENTIRE CITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS'S POSITION. I WANTED TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHER LEGAL STAFF IF THEY HAVE AN OPINION. WE'VE HEARD THIS ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE LAWS. THERE'S CASE LAW OUT THERE REGARDING THE ABILITY OF CITIES TO ENFORCE. I REALIZE THIS IS OUT OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT. THERE'S A GROWING AMOUNT OF CASE LAW THAT CITIES CANNOT ENFORCE THE LAWS UNLESS WE HAVE ENOUGH REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES. OTHERWISE CRIMINALIZING TRESPASSING IS INHUMANE AND UNNECESSARY USE OF THE CRIMINAL TRESS PASSING SYSTEM. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE? I THINK IT'S OUT OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT. CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT -- WHERE IT PUTS US? >> SURE. COUNCILOR DAVIS, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS CORRECT. THAT DECISION CAME DOWN IN 2019. IT HELD THAT A CITY CANNOT CRIMINALIZE TRESPASSING WHEN THERE ARE NOT SUFFICIENT ABLE BEDS. SINCE THAT DECISION HAS COME DOWN THERE HAVE BEEN CASES FILED ACROSS THE COUNTRY RAISING THIS ISSUE OF WHEN THERE IS SUFFICIENT BEDS AND WHEN THE CITY CAN MAKE THE ARREST. PENDING CLARIFICATION, WE DO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE CRIMINALIZE THINGS LIKE SLEEPING IN PARKS. THERE'S OTHER ADDITIONAL LIMITS. THERE'S FOURTH AMENDMENT LIMITS WHICH IS WHY WE ADAPTED ENCAMPMENT PROTOCOL THAT REQUIRES NOTICE AND STORAGE OF PROPERTY. THERE FIRST AMENDMENT LIMITS. THERE'S CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LIMITS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING THIS KIND OF ARREST. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. IT IS IMPORTANT. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE LAWS. THE QUALITY OF LIFE DOES MATTER. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE RULES. THE FACT IS I THINK WE HAVE FACTORS OUTSIDE OF OUR INFLUENCE IN THIS ROOM HAVE LET A LOT OF PEOPLE, A VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS HOMELESS SAY THEY LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE MORE THAN 20 YEARS. WE SAW THAT DATA THIS EVENING. THAT CONCERNS ME THAT AS A CITY WE FAILED. WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH TO GIVE PEOPLE OPTION OF RAISING THEIR HAND OF WHERE THEY CAN GO IN A MOMENT. I DON'T THINK WE THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER. WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH. WE HAVE BEEN BANGING ON THAT DRUM AND ADDING MORE MONEY EVERY YEAR, AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH. WE CAN'T SAY THAT HAVING THE 24-HOUR WEK AVAILABLE IS AN OPTION. THE BUS RUNS TWICE A DAY, WHAT IF IF -- IF YOU CAN'T GET THERE? THEY WON'T TAKE YOUR PET, OR THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE, SUFFICIENT HOUSING. IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEED. AND SO I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO BELABOR THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST IDEA TO DISMISS THIS CONCEPT TONIGHT. I'D RATHER SEE US REJECT THIS AMENDMENT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE LIVING SPACES BETTER AND LET'S DO THAT WHEN WE HAVE BETTER OPTIONS AND MORE INFORMATION. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO REJECT THE AMENDMENT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE OPTION FORWARD AND THEN DECIDE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ADEQUATE AND SUFFICIENT HOUSING IS HOUSING AND WATER AND RUNNING -- AND HEAT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THESE KIND OF ENCAMPMENTS. HERE'S ANOTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE. I THINK WE'RE -- EVEN IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS A VIABLE SOLUTION AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE CRITICAL AND WHAT'S MISSING IS ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING THOSE LOCATIONS BEFORE WE WOULD CHANGE THE IDO. BEFORE WE MAKE CHANGES TO THE IDO, I THINK ANY COUNCILOR THAT WOULD VOTE FOR THIS OR PROPOSE THIS SHOULD HAVE, WHETHER IT BE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FIVE LOCATIONS PER DISTRICT, TWO LOCATIONS PER DISTRICT. THOSE LOCATIONS SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND THOSE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN. I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS HEARING THIS AND THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ABOUT IT, THERE'S SO MANY FEARS, MANY HAVE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT REASONS THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE AND BE COMPASSIONATE AND BE ABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE SAFE PLACES TO LIVE AND TO GET HELP. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE GUIDE OF OUR ZONING FOR THINGS THAT FOR SOMETHING WE'VE NOT IDENTIFIED ANYWHERE. I WOULD CHALLENGE THE OTHER COUNCILORS HERE THAT IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT, WE MAY BEFORE WE TALK FURTHER THAT WE SPECIFICALLY NAME LOCATIONS THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT AND YOU WOULD WANT THESE PLACES TO BE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO DO ONE MYTH BUSTER. I THINK THE PUBLIC BASED OFF THE AMOUNT OF EMAILS WE'RE GETTING. IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE GUARANTEEING WE'RE GOING TO PUT FIVE SAFE SPACES IN EVERY DISTRICT. THAT'S NOT AT ALL. I HOPE EVERYBODY HEARS WE'RE SAYING CURRENTLY THERE COULD BE NO MORE THAN FIVE, EVENTUALLY. IF THIS EVEN WERE TO PASS, AND IT WERE TO REMAIN AS IS, IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING OUT THERE AND PUTTING 45 ENCAMPMENTS THROUGHOUT ALBUQUERQUE TONIGHT. SECONDLY, DO WE KNOW -- I THINK DIRECTOR PIERCE -- YOU'RE BOTH HERE. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU. AND MAYBE EVEN MR. DUVALL. DO YOU KNOW THE QUANTITY OF SUFFICIENT BEDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ESTIMATED TO BE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW? AND COMPARED TO HOW MANY WE NEED IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF A LAWSUIT IN REGARD TO THE BOISE CASE? CAN WE FIND OUT VIRTUAL -- EVENTUALLY? WE'RE ALL TRYING TO AVOID LITIGATION, AND WE WANT TO HELP, HOW MANY BEDS DO WE NEED THAT ARE CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT AND ARE THEY AVAILABLE TO MEET THE POPULATION REQUIREMENT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE HAD FROM A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IS ABOUT 700 BEDS. I CAN GET THAT STUDY TO YOU AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. TO CLARIFY, YES OUR WEST SIDE HAS BEDS EVERY NIGHT. WE HAVE ABOUT 350 FOLKS OUT THERE. WE COUNT THOSE NUMBERS DAILY AND WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR 450. THERE ARE ALWAYS BEDS THERE. AS WE TALKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT NEEDS, BEDS ARE AVAILABLE NOW. AND WE CAN SEND OUT THE SHELTER STUDY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, IN THE YOUTH HOMELESSNESS STUDY, ISN'T THERE SOMETHING LIKE 1500 ESTIMATED YOUTH HOMELESS? DO THEY COUNT FOR THE BEDS? >> YES. THAT RECENT STUDY ESTIMATES SOMEWHERE UP TO 1500, ALMOST 2000 YOUTH. AND THE ESTIMATES DID NOT COUNT YOUTH. WHY IT'S SO HISTORIC THAT RECENT WORK COMPLETED AND I KNOW ALL THE COUNCILORS LISTENED IS WE DIDN'T KNOW IN ALBUQUERQUE HOW MANY YOUTH WE HAD. THAT'S REALLY GROUNDBREAKING WORK TO KNOW THERE'S THAT MANY YOUTH 18-25 ON OUR STREETS THAT ARE IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS. OUR ESTIMATES BEFORE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE YOUTH, NOW WE PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER NEED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, ONE MORE COMMENT. COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF THESE ARE NOT THE RIGHT IDEA, DO YOU HAVE A GOOD ONE THAT IS? WOULD YOU PLEASE SHARE IT? >>COUN. LEWIS: THE GATEWAY CENTER. YOU SAID HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DID WE PUT IN THE GATEWAY CENTER? IF YOU'RE PROPOSING THIS THEN YOU SAY THE GATEWAY CENTER IS AN ABSOLUTE FAILURE. AND OTHER PROPOSALS LIKE IT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'VE MADE THIS KIND OF INVESTMENT. THIS IS THE MODEL AND INVESTMENT WE MADE. THESE ARE HUMANE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GET TREATMENT AND HELP. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFE PLACES. THAT'S A SOLUTION. IT'S DEALING WITH DRUG TREATMENT AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT, FIRST OF ALL TO THE DIRECTOR. 700, IS THAT THE AVAILABLE BEDS WE HAVE? WHAT WAS THE 700? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, OUR ESTIMATE FROM A STUDY DONE WAS THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR 700 MORE EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE TALKED THE OTHER NIGHT THAT THERE'S BEDS AVAILABLE AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. HAVE YOU DONE ANY OTHER STUDIES ON AVAILABLE BEDS, NOT ONLY AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER BUT ALSO THE NON-PROFIT AND PRIVATE SHELTERS? ARE THERE SPECIFIC STUDIES WE'VE DONE RECENTLY ON THAT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE HAVEN'T DONE STUDIES. WE HAVE THE LIST OF ALL THE SHELTER BEDS AVAILABLE FROM THE NON-PROFITS. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO WE KNOW HOW MANY BEDS ARE AVAILABLE TONIGHT? >> 950. >>COUN. LEWIS: AVAILABLE BEDS? >> YES, THAT'S WITH OUR LIST OF ALL OF THE NON-PROFITS. I CAN PROVIDE THAT LIST. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. MR. MELENDREZ, MAYBE YOU HAVE CLARITY. WE HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUE. THERE'S THIS FEAR THAT THE CIRCUIT COURT MADE THAT DECISION. I KNOW THERE'S OTHER CITIES ALL OVER THE CITY THAT ENFORCE THE LAWS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. WHAT IS THE RATIO? I HEARD THAT RIGHT. 900 BEDS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS THE RATIO? WHAT IS THE NUMBER THIS MAGIC NUMBER WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE OUR LAWS WITHOUT HAVING THIS YEAR. BY THE WAY, I'M SURE THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE ENFORCING THE LAWS WITHOUT THIS FEAR OF THE COURT, OR EVEN KNOW THE COURT OVERRULE THEM OR MAKE A JUDGMENT BUT THEY'RE DOING IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW. ULTIMATELY, I GUESS IT'S DECIDED IN COURT. COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON A FRAMEWORK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS WHAT THE RATIO IS RELATIVE TO WHAT THE NINTH CIRCUIT REQUIRED. AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT REQUIRED A BED TO BELIEVE AVAILABLE FOR SOMEBODY THAT WAS DEEMED DISPLACED. HOWEVER, AS MS. KEEF MENTIONED, THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND IN A FEW STATES SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT OTHER CITIES ARE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT, THEY'RE NOT BOUND. THEY HAVE WHATEVER THEY HAVE AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO THE RULES IN THE VARIOUS JURISDICTION TO ENFORCE REMOVAL OR OTHERWISE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT IS NOT THE LAW OF THE LAND REGARDING NEW MEXICO? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT'S CORRECT. NEW MEXICO IS PART OF A DIFFERENT CIRCUIT. WE'RE PART OF THE 10th CIRCUIT. THIS DECISION CAME OUT OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S A MYTH RIGHT THERE. THAT ARGUMENT IS USED FROM TIME TO TIME THAT WE CAN'T DO IT. THE FACT IS WE CAN ENFORCE OUR LAWS. NOBODY'S TOLD US WE CAN'T. IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH BEDS RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE START ENFORCING THOSE LAWS AND MOVING PEOPLE INTO SAFE SHELTERS WHERE THERE'S RUNNING WATER AND HEAT, TE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE IN THOSE PLACES THAT WOULD STAND UP IN COURT. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER MYTH. DID YOU WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING? PLEASE DO. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THERE ARE 950 BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT INCLUDES THE 450 BEDS AT THE SHELTER. OF WHICH THEY'RE NOT ALL FULL. THAT IS STILL NOT ENOUGH BEDS IN OUR FULL COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THE RATIO OF THAT. WE ALSO MIGHT THROW AROUND NUMBERS LIKE -- CERTAINLY IF EVERY SINGLE PERSON -- WE ALSO DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE TONIGHT THERE MIGHT BE 100 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BED AND WE ENFORCE THE LAWS AND MOVE THEM TO SAFER PLACES THEY HAVE A BED TONIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BEDS ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE ESTIMATES OF HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NEED THOSE BEDS. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'VE GOT 950 BEDS. THAT STILL LEAVES US THAT SHORT AGE OF 700? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE LEGALITIES OF ALL OF THIS. I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE MORALITY OF THESE CHOICES WE'RE MAKING. IS IT MORE MORAL TO MAKE SOMEONE GO INTO A SHELTER WHEN THEY ARE NOT MENTALLY READY TO DO SO? WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREET WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS FOR LONG TIME. THEY ARE TRAUMATIZED AND THE ANSWER FOR THOSE FOLKS IS NOT TO SHIP THEM OUT TO THE WEST SIDE AND PUT THEM IN THE WEEK. THE ANSWER FOR THEM IS TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR THEM THAT GETS THEM AWAY FROM PARKS. AWAY FROM OPEN SPACE AND AWAY FROM YOUR ALLEY WAYS. THAT IS THE HUMANE ANSWER THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF ALL OF THIS AS MUCH AS JUST THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE PEOPLE AN OPTION THAT DOES NOT UNDERMINE THEIR DIGNITY AND PROVIDES SERVICES SO IF THEY BECOME READY CAN TAKE THAT NEXT STEP AND GET INTO A PROGRAM, GET INTO SHELTER, GET INTO HOUSING. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT YOU KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S NOT LIKE THESE VINYLS -- INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO GET ARRESTED AND GO TO JAIL FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS. ALL MY CAREER AS LAW ENFORCEMENT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE WARNINGS. WE WRITE CITATIONS. NUMEROUS WARNINGS. WE HAD A CRIMINAL TRESPASS WARNING. THAT GIVES THEM AMPLE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ANY CHANCE OF BEING HELPED OUT BY ANYONE IN THE SYSTEM. ALSO, THINK ABOUT THE DOJ AND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET RID OF THE DOJ. THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO WORK ON GETTING RID OF THE ART PROJECT. THOSE, IN MY OPINION, THOSE WERE DISASTROUS DECISIONS. IF WE MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT, AND THIS DECISION CAN'T BE CHANGED AND CAN'T BE MOVED, THEN MARK MY WORDS WE'RE GOING TO WISH WE DIDN'T DO THIS. LIKE I WISH THE ART PROJECT WASN'T HERE AND I WISH THE DOJ WASN'T HERE. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND DISCUSS IT MORE THAN WE ARE. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE MISSING. WE'RE MIXING SOCIAL ISSUES WITH ZONING ISSUES. WE SHOULDN'T BE WANDERING IN THIS AREA. WITH THE IDO, PUTTING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY HARD THING TO UNCHANGE. AND I THINK IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE REGRETTING IT IN THE FUTURE. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I THINK WE NEED TO BE PUTTING THESE FOLKS IN A HOME. IN A SPACE. NOT IN A BUILDING. THERE'S A PLACE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA. THEY HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM THAT THEY RENOVATED AN OLD BUILDING. A ONE-STOP FOR HOMELESS SERVICES. THEY HAVE A COVERED PATIO THAT HAS ROOM FOR 800 PEOPLE FOR OUTDOOR LIVING FOR SLEEPING. IT'S RUN BY THE CITY OF LAS VEGAS. IT HAS ALL THE BASIC SHELTER SERVICES. WE PURCHASED THE GATEWAY CENTER, AND I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN BE USING THAT FACILITY TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. I'M CONFUSED WHY WE BOUGHT A BUILDING FOR $14 MILLION AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO HOUSE 100 MEN AND WOMEN AND 25 FAMILIES. I'M REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. I JUST WISH, LIKE PEOPLE WANT-- THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE INSIDE, BUT HAVING A SPACE THAT'S SAFE AND HUMANE AND AROUND SERVICES AND I'M ALL FOR THAT. I'M THINKING WE'VE GOT 572,000 SQUARE FEET IN THIS HUGE PROPERTY WE BUILT OR BOUGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE NOT USING THAT MORE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE LEGAL ARGUMENT WAS BROUGHT UP AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I THINK THAT IT'S VALID FEAR. I THINK THERE'S SOME MYTHS RELATED TO THAT. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT WE ADDRESS THAT FOR THE LEGAL PART OF THAT. WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS THE MORAL PART OF IT AS WELL. MORALLY, SENDING OR MAKING PEOPLE GO TO A DIRT LOT AND LIVE IN PLACES THAT ARE FENCED IN WITH NO RUNNING WATER, NO HEAT, WE CAN MAKE A CASE FOR THE MORALITY IN THAT AS WELL. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY WERE SOLD, OR AT LEAST SOLD ON THE GATEWAY CENTER. AND THOSE KINDS OF DRUG TREATMENT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HELP FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND DRUG TREATMENT, AND I DO BELIEVE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THIS DIRECTION, THIS IS TELLING THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE YOU VOTED ON THESE KINDS OF MEASURES AND THESE KINDS OF PROPOSALS YOU BELIEVED WERE GOING TO HELP AND BY DOING THIS WE'RE SAYING THAT WAS WRONG. THOSE AREN'T EFFECTIVE. AND THAT WAS A FAILURE. YET, WE'RE STILL INVESTING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I BELIEVE THAT TYPE OF A MODEL, AND ALSO BELIEVE NOT JUST THE GATEWAY CENTER BUT PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RUN CENTERS SIMILAR TO THAT ARE A BETTER INVESTMENT OF THE CITY. THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE GOING, NOT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN LOTS. TALKING ABOUT MORALLY, WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY GO TO A DIRT LOT IF WE MAKE THEM GO THERE AS OPPOSED TO A PLACE WHERE THERE'S RUNNING WATER. I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE LAST COMMENT. AND COUNCILOR GROUT BROUGHT IT UP, WE HAVE A GATEWAY CENTER. WHY CAN'T WE DO A SAFE INDOOR SPACE AT THE GATEWAY CENTER YOU HAVE RUNNING WATER AND BATHROOM AND ALL THE FACILITIES AND WRAP AROUND FACILITIES RIGHT THERE AND ADD HUNDREDS OF BEDS. HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF BEDS INTO THAT FACILITY. AND WE ACTUALLY FULFILL THE OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE LAWS WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WHY WOULD WE EVEN ENTERTAIN THIS ONE WE ALREADY HAVE THE FACILITY AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE ROOM TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING? AND GET IT DONE. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, CORRECT? AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO AS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE ON. B4. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AS I MENTIONED THE NEXT COUPLE AMENDMENTS SEEK TO CHANGE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE USE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. THIS AMENDMENT DOES TAKE FOUR ACTIONS. FIRST, AT THE LAND USE MEETING IN APRIL, A DISTRICT HALF OF FIVE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES PER CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT WAS ADDED. HOWEVER, WHEN THAT WAS ADDED, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXCEPTION ALSO ADDED FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. THERE'S A FEDERAL ACT CALLED THE RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED ACT WHICH SETS FORTH MUNICIPALITIES HAS TO BE AWARE OF THE LAND USE RESTRICTIONS THEY PLACE ON CHURCHES. IT LIMITS HOW A CHURCH FURTHERS MISSIONS. THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT CAP ASSOCIATED WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES COULD BE INTERPRETED TO BE LIMITING A CHURCH'S MISSION IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THE FIRST PART OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD EXEMPT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. SECOND, AND VERY CLERICAL IN NATURE. THE AMENDMENT USES THE PHRASE CAMP SITE WHERE EVERYWHERE ELSE IT USES DESIGNATED SPACE. IT'S THE APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY, NOT CAMP SITE. THAT WORD NEEDS TO BE SWITCHED OUT. IT CLARIFIES REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO SHOWERS. ALSO AT THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SHOWERS AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WAS ADDED. IT WASN'T CLEAR WHETHER THEY CAN BE PORTABLE OR IF THEY HAVE TO BE PLUMBED AND THIS WOULD CLARIFY IF THEY'RE PORTABLE. LASTLY, IT CLARIFIES FOR ANY KIND OF FENCING REQUIRED THAT THE FENCING MUST BE SECURED WITH LOCK OR LOCKING MECHANISM. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY QUESTIONS? IT MOSTLY SEEMED TO BE SOME CLARITY THAT NEEDED TO BE PROVIDED. SEEING NONE. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK WE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND? OPPOSED? THAT WAS 5-4. >> THE NEXT AMENDMENT LABELLED B5 RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WOULD AMEND THE CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS THAT THE LUPZ COMMITTEE APPROVED. THEY APPROVE A PAX MISDEMEANOR A AMENDMENT B5 REDUCES IT TO A MAXIMUM 30 SPACES WITH 40 OCCUPANTS. >>COUN. BENTON: BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AND THE PRESENTATION TODAY BY THE FOLKS FROM DENVER, I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT. WE'LL MOVE ON. B6. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT B6 ADDS A REQUIREMENT THAT ON-CALL SECURITY BE REQUIRED. THE AMENDMENT AS PASSED BY THE COMMITTEE DOES DUZ REQUIRE -- IT REQUIRES ON-SITE SUPPORT AND ADDS A REQUIREMENT FOR ON-CALL SECURITY AS DISTINCT FROM ON-CALL SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS COULD BE MET BY BASICALLY A SECURITY COMPANY THAT'S JUST SETTING THE [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MR. PRESIDENT, YES. I THINK THAT COULD MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE REGULATION. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL ASK THE ADMINISTRATION WHAT THEY THINK OF IT. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, ON SECURITY, I THINK WE HEARD FROM OUR PARTNERS IN DENVER, THERE IS 24-7 ACCESS TO SUPPORT. AND SOME OF THAT ARE PEOPLE ON-SITE OR THERE'S ALWAYS A PHONE NUMBER FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO CALL. SECURITY IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT. AND SOME OF THAT IS PROVIDED BY NON-PROFIT THAT'S PROVIDING THE SUPPORT TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. >>COUN. BENTON: THE SECURITY LANGUAGE COULD BE INTERPRETED AS SOMETHING BEYOND THAT? I'M ASKING MYSELF A QUESTION ABOUT MY OWN AMENDMENT. YEAH, I MEAN THE INTENTION WAS -- MY INTENTION WAS WE HAVE OPERATORS WHO ARE PROVIDING US WITH SUPPORT FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE. I SUPPOSE YOU SAY THAT POLICE ARE ALWAYS ON CALL. HAVING A PRIVATE SECURITY OR SOME ALTERNATIVE SECURITY MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, AS WE HEARD FROM OUR PARTNERS THEY HAVE 24-7 MANAGED SUPPORT DERIVED FROM MOSTLY PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE. AND AT THE VERY STRUCTURED PROTOCOL. I BELIEVE DOING THAT IN COMBINATION WITH AN ON-CALL SECURITY WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE AND SAFE. WE COULD ALSO START WITH THE MODEL THAT THEY DID MANAGERS IN THE DAY AND AN ACTUAL SECURITY ON-SITE IN THE NIGHTTIME. UNTIL WE SEE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS AND TYPES. >>COUN. BENTON: FOR THE TIME BEING, I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT EITHER. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION NOT GERMANE TO THIS AMENDMENT. I GUESS GERMANE TO THE NOOIR -- ENTIRE ISSUE. DO WE HAVE RESOURCES TO PAY NON-PROFITS TO OPERATE THESE CAMP SITES ? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR PEÑA YES. IN OUR BUDGET REQUEST FOR FY23 IT'S $750,000. THAT WOULD BE USED TO CONTRACT WITH A NON-PROFIT TO PROVIDE 24-7 ON-SITE SERVICES FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND MORE OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD. >>COUN. PEÑA: $700,000, WHAT IF IF THERE WERE NINE IN NINE COUNCIL DISTRICTS? >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, $750,000, SO IF THERE WERE NINE DISTRICTS, WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BUDGET AND I THINK THERE WOULD BE MORE RESOURCES DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF SITES. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, HOW MANY SITES DO WE THINK WE MAY HAVE POTENTIAL TO START OUT THE GATE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK WE'VE GOT THE NON-PROFIT INTEREST AND CAPACITY TO CONTRACT WITH. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BUDGET AND WONDERING IF STAFF REMEMBERS ON THE BUDGET SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE MAY NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT 750 TO REALLY HAVE 24-7 STAFFING. >>COUN. PEÑA: WOULD THE 750, DO YOU HAVE A BUDGET RELATED TO THAT FOR ONE CAMP SITE AS WHAT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I CAN GET ONE OF THE PROPOSED BUDGETS FROM DENVER AND LOOK AT WHAT THE COST WERE FOR ONE SITE. I DON'T THINK FOR $750,000 YOU CAN DO A SITE FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING. >>COUN. BENTON: I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING ABOUT ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND THE IDO. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND THE ANSWER WAS WE CAN'T DO THESE WITHOUT AMENDING THE IDO. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE AS A COUNCIL CAN'T REQUIRE MORE BEFORE ONE OF THOSE IS ACTUALLY APPROVED. LET'S SAY WE PASS IT. AND IT WOULD BE IN PLACE AND ADMINISTRATIVELY THERE'S STILL NEEDING TO BE A WHOLE SET OF RULES AND PROGRAMMING TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC AND OURSELVES AND THE PENGSDTURE OF THE FUNDS IT'S GOING TO BE DONE WELL. THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT LENDS ITSELF TO WRITING INTO A ZONING DOCUMENT. IT JUST SAYS YOU CAN DO THIS IN THESE PLACES. IT DOESN'T FILL IN ALL THE BLANKS. LIKE I WAS TRYING TO DO WITH SECURITY OR NOT SECURITY. OUR TENDENCY IS GOING TO BE TRY TO ANSWER EVERY CONCEIVABLE QUESTION ABOUT THIS IN THE ZONING DOCUMENT. I THINK I WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. I THINK I'M RIGHT ABOUT THAT. WITHOUT QUESTION, THAT'S SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT COULD SAY THIS HAS TO BE A PROJECT THAT IS SUPPORTED AND SOMEHOW SANCTIONED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. >>-- >>COUN. BENTON: THAT LEAVES THE ABILITY OF RULE MAKING. THIS IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION TYPICALLY DOES. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WASN'T DONE WITH MY COMMENT. YOU'RE THE SECOND COUNCILOR AT THE HEAD OF THE COMMENT IN TERMS OF CLARIFYING THE INTENTION. I UNDERSTAND WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONING DOCUMENT. THERE'S IMPLICATIONS WHEN WE CHANGE THE ZONING. WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED HOW. WHEN WE CHANGE THE ZONING IT ALLOWS FOR MULTIPLE USES. NOT JUST FOR ENCAMPMENTS. I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER, LET'S SAY SOME GROUP CAME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND WANTED TO DO AN ENCAMPMENT THEY COULD GO TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND APPLY AND BE ABLE TO START AN ENCAMPMENT. YEAH, WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE, NOT JUST CHANGING ZONING WHICH IS IMPORTANT, IN ORDER TO ENSURE WE CAN DO ALL THE PROCESS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF HOW THIS BENEFITS US. I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC INTO SAIS SAYING WE'VE IDENTIFIED $750,000 TO WORK WITH NON-PROFITS TO DO ENCAMPMENTS WE SHOULD BE ASSURED WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT THIS CITYWIDE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE AND LEVEL OF AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED THESE SERVICES WHEN THERE'S OTHER COUNCILORS WHO ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE LIKE THE GATEWAY CENTER, LIKE OTHER AREAS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER COMMENT? WE'LL GO ON TO -- WHAT'S NEXT? B7. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE ZONING DISTRICTS. I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT. WHAT ABOUT THE CHURCH SITUATION WITH REGARD TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? ARE THEY EXEMPT TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS POTENTIAL AMENDMENT? WHICH LIMITS -- IT BASICALLY GOES BACK FROM WHAT LUPZ DID WHICH WAS TO MAKE IT CONDITIONAL EVERYWHERE. THIS MAKES IT CONDITIONAL IN THESE MAIN STREET CORRIDORS AND CENTERS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET REDEVELOPMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE THIS IS MOVING ZONE DISTRICTS FROM CONDITIONAL TO PERMISSIVE, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. THE LUPZ THERE'S EXEMPTIONS IF IT WAS GOING TO BE CONDITIONAL. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE PROHIBITION IN DOWNTOWN CENTERS, MAIN STREET AREAS OR URBAN CENTERS. I DON'T BELIEVE. THE RESTRICTIONS ARE SPECIFIC TO IF IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE. IF IT'S PROHIBITED IN PROXIMITY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I DON'T THINK THAT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KEEP THAT QUESTION OUT THERE ON ANY GIVEN AMENDMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG QUESTION. I'M NOT PREPARED TO MOVE THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE US DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE'VE GOT TO REVERSE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE MOVING THIS. I THINK IT'S WORTH DISCUSSION AND I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT WE REDEVELOP OUR CORRIDORS AND THAT WE REDEVELOP PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, YES, I HAD A CLARIFICATION. ALTHOUGH THIS AMENDMENT WOULD SAY IT'S PROHIBITED IN DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET, THE UNDERLYING ZONING FOR THE CHURCHES WOULD TRUMP THAT. RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS BECAUSE IT DOES SAY THAT IT'S AN ALLOWED USE WHEN IT'S INCIDENTAL TO A CHURCH. WE DON'T PROHIBIT CHURCHES IN THOSE AREAS, THEY WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THIS PROHIBITION. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO BE MOVING THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MUST -- I JUST THINK THESE PROPOSALS ARE INTERESTING. THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSAL AND OTHERS LIKE IT. I THINK THERE'S A FEW OTHERS LIKE IT. WE'RE SAYING THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY WE DON'T THINK THESE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SHOULD GO. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I GUESS THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT ALONG SOME OF THE AREAS. I WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT IN A LOT OF AREAS IN DISTRICT FIVE. THERE'S REDEVELOPMENT AREAS IN MY DISTRICT AND DISTRICTS ALL OVER THE CITY. AGAIN, WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS WE WANT THESE PLACES ALL OVER THE CITY BUT WE DON'T WANT THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SHOULD -- BEFORE WE SHOULD DO ANY OF THIS WE SHOULD IDENTIFY WHERE WE WANT THEM. EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT THEM. BEFORE WE PUT THIS ON THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE IT, I WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, OR I'LL AMEND IT TO OTHER PART OF THE AMENDMENT. I'M HONEST ABOUT THIS. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS ANY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. MY AMENDMENT IS THAT WE PROHIBIT WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD PROHIBIT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND FOR NOW WE'LL SAY IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S FINE. THAT AMENDMENT IS STILL OUT THERE FOR ANYONE TO PICK UP. I'D LOVE TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: AGAIN, NOT GERMANE TO THE OVERALL ISSUE. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, I THINK THIS IS FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING US TO OPERATE AT CORONADO PARK. BOTH FROM SOLID WASTE, SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING. ANY KIND OF CITY SERVICES. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S COSTING US TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE WHICH IS -- THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT MOVING THIS. I WANT TO ASK IF THE STAFF CAN INFORM OUR NEXT CONVERSATION. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT SPACE IT'S PERMISSIBLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. I KNOW MR. FRIEND HELPED ME THIS AFTERNOON AND WE DEVELOPED SOME OF THE MAPS OF WHERE IT WAS PERMISSIVE. I WOULD LIKE SEE IF WE ADD A MAP OR GUIDANCE ON NOT JUST THE AREAS THE SPONSORS MENTIONED, BUT ALSO TO MAP OUT THOSE OTHER ACTIVITY CENTERS AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS WHICH ARE THE OTHER SPECIALIZED CENTER IDENTIFIED IN THE IDO. THOSE ARE ONES THAT AT SOME POINT WERE CONSIDERED SPECIAL FOR SOME REASON BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL BUSINESS TARGETS. FOR WHAT ITS WORTH, THE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS WOULD INCLUDE THE GIBSON CENTER. THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT CONCERN IT WOULD TURN GIBSON INTO A BIG CAMP OVERNIGHT. IF YOU CAN MAP THOSE OUT WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MAPS THAT STAFF ONLY RECEIVED TODAY. AND THESE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCIL AND POSTED TO THE WEBSITE WHERE THE OTHER DOCUMENTS FOR THE AMENDMENTS CAN BE FOUND. YRN IT'S -- THE TWO MAPS WE'VE HAD MADE. I DID TAKE A NOTE ABOUT ADDITIONAL REQUEST SHOW PARCEL IN THE CITY WHERE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE COULD OCCUR BASED ON THE AMENDMENT AS IT PASSED AT LUPZ. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SQUINT HARD ENOUGH AT THIS MAP, ANY RED AND TAN PARCELS COULD BE ELIGIBLE IF THEY MEET ALL THE OTHER SPECIFIC STANDARDS. AND THE SECOND MATCH, WHICH WE'LL BE SURE TO SHARE IN A LARGER FORMAT SHOW THE PARCELS AVAILABLE FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I NOTED ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR THE OTHER MAP AND WE'LL HAVE THAT READY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I ASK COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF HE WANTS TO PUT THAT AMENDMENT IN DISTRICT FIVE, HE CONSIDER THAT HE SAY HE DEMONSTRATES THERE'S NO HOMELESSNESS. OTHERWISE THEY'RE ALLOWED. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE PURPLE AREA, THESE ARE PROHIBITED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHAT THIS PARTICULAR MAP SHOWS IS IF AMENDMENT B7 WERE TO PASS AS IT WAS PROPOSED BY COUNCILOR BENTON ALL THE PURPLE LOCATIONS WHERE ARE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE COULD OCCUR. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL THE GRAY AREAS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THEY CANNOT OCCUR? >> CORRECT. THOSE PARCELS DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT ZONING DESIGNATION OR THEY CAN'T MEET THE DISTANCE SEPARATION SET FORTH IN THE AMENDMENT. >> I'D ASK COUNCILOR DAVIS ARE THERE NO HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE AREAS? ARE THERE NO ONE IN NEED OF SHELTER IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS? THAT'S A MASSIVE PART OF THE CITY WE'RE PROHIBITING? >>COUN. DAVIS: I DIDN'T MAKE THIS AMENDMENT OR MAP. THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES. WE'RE ALREADY SUPPORTING THE TINY HOME VILLAGE, AND SHELTERS. AND WE'RE DOING OUR PART. WE COULD USE SOME HELP. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION FOR US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY AND THE SPONSOR IS NOT READY. I HOPE WE CAN MOVE ON. IT'S FIVE HOURS AND WE HAVEN'T PASSED ONE BILL TONIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE PASSING THESE BILLS AT -W -- ALL. >>COUN. BENTON: THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO A BILL THAT WE DO HAVE TO PASS BEFORE THE JULY RECESS. THAT TAKES US TO COUNCILOR GROUT. B8. WHICH WOULD BE AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. >>COUN. GROUT: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS ONE. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WITH ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE, IT STILL NEEDS SO MUCH WORK. THERE'S SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH IT. AND WE'VE ALL ADDED ON AN AMENDMENT AFTER AN AMENDMENT. I'M VERY CONCERNED. I HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED. RIGHT NOW, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISTRICT CAP FROM FIVE TO TWO. AND IT COMBINES IT WITH ANY CONVERSIONS OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES TO RESIDENTIAL USES FOR AFFORDABLE LAND USE. DISTRICT TWO, SIX, NINE BEAR A LARGER SHARE OF THE BURDEN OF HOMELESSNESS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. IF WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT OUTDOOR SPACES, THEY SHOULD BE SPREAD OUT EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO ENSURE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL NOT BE CONCENTRATED IN THEIR AREA. WHEN ALL NINE HAVE MAXIMUM WE CAN LOOK AT EXPANDING THE PROGRAM. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT FOR DISCUSSION. I DO FEEL THAT FIVE PER COUNCIL DISTRICT IS LOT FOR SOMETHING WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: AS WE'RE SITTING HERE ACCOMPLISHING NOT MUCH OF ANYTHING BUT TAKING A LONG TIME TO DO IT. PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE S WE PERHAPS WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS DIFFERENTLY. PERHAPS WE CAN, NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT BREAK OFF INTO THREE STUDY GROUPS AND COME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IDEALLY WE WOULD WANT AND THEN TRY TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT IT. I THINK TRYING TO FIT A PROGRAM INTO A PLACE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PLACE IS, I THINK WE'RE DOING IT BACKWARD. IT'S LIKE YOU SAY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT IN THE HOUSE BEFORE YOU KNOW WHERE TO PUT THE HOUSE. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS SPINNING WHEELS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WE NEED IT IN EVERY DISTRICT. SOME OF THE DISTRICTS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. MAYBE ONE DISTRICT WOULD WANT ALL OF THEM. WHO KNOWS? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEM IS. WE WANT THEM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE THEMES THAT WE'RE WANTING TO BUILD. WE WANT IT LIKE LAS CRUCES, WE LIKE WHAT DENVER HAS. HOW BIG DO WE WANT THEM TO BE? WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SIZES THAT WORK BEST FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THE RESOURCES WE HAVE. I THINK WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND GET A GRASP AND A FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT FROM THE COUNCILORS WHAT WE THINK WE WANT TO DO TO HELP WITH THIS ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER, MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE THAN WHERE WE'RE GOING. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. WHILE THAT MAKES SENSE, THE FIRST TIME WE'VE MADE SENSE TONIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME, THE DETAILS, RESPECTFULLY. ARE WE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO IDO ONCE A YEAR? THAT'S WHY I THINK WE ARE CHEWING OFF THESE DETAILS RIGHT NOW. I'M PRETTY WILLING. I'M NOT A BETTING GIRL. I'M PRETTY WILLING TO BET THAT NONE OF THIS PASSES BECAUSE WE WON'T AGREE. WHETHER WE DO STUDY SESSIONS OR NOT. I HOPE SOME OF IT PASSES. I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT GETTING IN OUR OWN WAY. IF WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR FOR SAFE IDO SPACES, THEN I DON'T SUPPORT A SESSION. THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER YEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY SOMETHING. IF WE CAN DO AN AMENDMENT IN TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS WITHOUT ROYALLY ANGERING ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS, WHICH THAT'S ALSO PRETTY INEVITABLE, HOW DO WE DO OUR JOB WITHOUT SITTING A CAROUSEL OF USELESS? >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO MOVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS USE IS PROHIBITED WITHIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND, AND I'LL SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT DISTRICT ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? >>COUN. LEWIS: CLARIFY, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT PROPOSED. IT IS TO PROHIBIT THIS USE WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, AND DISTRICT FIVE. AND I MADE THE MOTION AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ SECOND. ADD THE DISTRICT ONE T THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. I BELIEVE IT WAS B6 THAT RECOMMENDS THAT THESE SPACES ARE NOT IN URBAN AREAS OR ALONG CENTRAL AREA. SOME OF THE AREAS WE WANT TO SEE REDEVELOPMENT OR OTHER USAGES. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE ARGUMENT THAN THIS AMENDMENT RIGHT HERE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS PROPOSAL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID LEARN IS THAT EVERYWHERE THESE SPACES WERE PUT, THEY WERE ALWAYS REGULATED BY THE LAWS THAT WERE IN PLACE. THEY NEVER ADDED ANY EXTRA RULES. THEY JUST ENFORCED THE LAWS OF THE CITY THAT THEY'RE IN AND THE STATE THAT THEY'RE IN. AND THEY WERE VERY STRICT ABOUT ENFORCING THOSE LAWS. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THESE THINGS WORK. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THIS IS ON THE -- AS STATED BY COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, IT SEEMS LIKE -- >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCILOR GROUT'S AMENDMENT. AND IT PROHIBITS THE USE OF THE ENTIRE USE OF COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE AND FIVE. AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. WE MOVED TO PASS THE AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: SO THE AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE IS NUMBER FOUR -- EXCUSE ME. IT'S ON THE TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 2-7 VOTE. BACK ON THE BILL. ON THE AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS ON THE REDUCTION FROM FIVE TO TWO PER COUNCIL DISTRICT. -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I WANT TO SAY I OPPOSE THIS BILL. I THINK IT SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL VOTED TO PUT THESE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN ONE AND FIVE. I CERTAINLY AM NOT VOTING TO PUT THEM IN YOUR DISTRICT. >>COUN. BENTON: BAEK -- BACK ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE. THE VOTE WAS NOT CLEAR. IF WE CAN CALL FOR THAT VOTE AGAIN. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. WE'RE ON COUNCILOR GROUT'S AMENDMENT. NUMBER FOUR. WHICH REDUCES THE MAXIMUM NUMBER FROM FIVE TO TWO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT FAILS. 4-5. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON OTHER MATTERS. PREAPPLICATION REVIEW TEAM MEETINGS. THIS IS COUNCILOR LEWIS AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, THERE WAS ONE AMENDMENT PROPOSED IN THE PACKET ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON THAT IS RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IT'S LABELLED B15. IF WE CAN TAKE THAT UP WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC. THAT MIGHT BE PREFERABLE TO THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BENTON: WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN NUMBER 15? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET LABELLED 5B15 RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT PROPOSES TO PROHIBIT THE FIRST FIVE OUTDOOR PERMITTED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY FROM OCCURRING IN AREAS THAT HAVE A HIGH SCORE ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX MAP. THAT HIGH SCORE IS DETERMINED TO BE A SCORE OF BETWEEN .8 AND .1. I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT ITSELF THE METRICS ARE LISTED FOR WHAT IS CONSIDERED A HIGH AREA OF VULNERABILITY. I CAN SHOW A MAP TO YOU NOW THAT I CAN PROVIDE IN A LARGER FORMAT ON THE WEBSITE AND THE COUNCILORS. ALL OF THE AREAS DEPICTED IN RED, ALL OF THE TRACKS ARE THE FIRST FIVE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OCCUR IN THE RED AREAS. >>COUN. BENTON: THE QUESTION ABOUT THE INDEX, THE INDEX IS BASED UPON -- CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DATA AGAIN? >> I CAN. I WILL NEED JUST A MOMENT TO PULL THAT AMENDMENT UP MYSELF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS A MAP CREATED AND MANAGED BY THE CITY'S OFFICE EQUITY AND INCLUSION. AND THE FOLLOWING VARABLES ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. FOLKS ARE BELOW POVERTY, UNEMPLOYED, INCOME LEVELS, NO HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. TRACKS AGED 65 OR OLDER. AGED 17 OR YOUNGER. MINORITY MAJORITY STATUS, TRACKS THAT HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF THOSE WHO SPEAK ENGLISH WAS CONSIDERED LESS THAN WELL. AND SOME MORE PHYSICAL CHARACTERS THAT GO INTO THE VULNERABILITY INDEX ARE TRACKS WITH A HIGH NUMBER OF MULTIUNIT STRUCTURES, MOBILE HOMES, WHAT THE CENSUS DEEMS AS CROWDING, TRACKS WHERE FOLKS DO NOT OWN VEHICLES AND TRACKS WITH A HIGH POPULATION OF GROUP QUARTERS. IT'S A CONGLOMERATION OF ALL POINTS THAT GETS YOU THE SCORE FROM .8 T 1 IS CONSIDERED HIGH. AND THE FIRST FIVE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE LOCATED THERE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS,COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR FOR THIS. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. WHERE ASKED THE SPONSOR TO EXPLAIN. I SEE SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES IN HERE AND NOT WANTING TO OVERBURDEN NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M CONCERNED, AND I HOPE THE SPONSOR CAN CONVINCE OTHERWISE. I'M CONCERNED IT WOULD PROHIBIT THE PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREAS WHERE WE SEE MORE PEOPLE NEEDING SERVICES. I KNOW WE'VE PIN CHAMPIONS FOR THE SERVICES. >>COUN. PEÑA: THE INTENT IS REALLY JUST HISTORICALLY USUALLY WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, IF YOU LOOK AT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND HOW IT'S IMPACTED. THERE'S A STORY BY LARRY BARKER ABOUT HOW ZONING IMPACTED COMMUNITIES OF COLOR OF HOW THEY PUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE -- THEY ZONED THEM OUT JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR AND POVERTY AND ALL THESE STATISTICS. I LOOKED AT IT LIKE I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE SHOULD LOOK AT AREAS OUTSIDE OF AREAS ALREADY COMPOUNDED BY SERVICES LIKE THIS. I LIVE IN ALAMOSA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I HAVE SIX AFFORDABLE -- NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SECTION EIGHT. I SUPPORT. THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS END UP BEING IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE OURS. AND THEY -- AND I THINK WE SHOULD -- IF WE REALLY ARE GOING TO DO IT AND WE'RE REALLY PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS WE REALLY NEED TO DO WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO AND HAVE THEM IN ALL NINE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS REASONS THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT THEM AND IN BIG PARTS OF HER DISTRICT. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE REASONS FOR BIG PARTS OF YOUR DISTRICTS. IF WE TAKE ALL THE MAPS WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT AND OVERLAY THEM. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE AN OVERLAY MAP WITH ALL THESE AMENDMENTS THAT SHOWS WHERE ALL IN THE CITY THESE ARE PROHIBITED AND I BET THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOSTLY IN MY DISTRICT. I BET THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOSTLY IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT IN THE AREAS DOWNTOWN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA'S DISTRICT. THERE'S STRON OPINIONS ON WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULDN'T GO. I GUESS I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE, AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY NEED TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ALL THESE AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT WITH THIS AMENDMENT. AND I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN AS COUNCILOR PEÑA ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I JUST HAVE THE OPPOSITE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, NATIVE-AMERICANS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BUT WE START SAYING YOU CAN ONLY BE IN SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IF IT'S OTHER SPOTS AND YOU HAVE TO BE DRIVEN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXCLUDING PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SERVICES. FOR THAT REASON I WON'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITIES. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS ISN'T SAYING WE CANNOT HAVE THEM IN THE LOCATIONS. IT'S SAYING WHEN WE INITIALLY START OUT, LET'S NOT START IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ALWAYS START OUT AT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THIS IS THE FIRST FIVE. IF WE'RE HAVING 45, THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT THEM IN OTHER DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY COUNCILOR LEWIS'S. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A MOTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST -- I HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT ALL THESE BARRIERS ARE GOING TO PREVENT US FROM DOING ANYTHING. FOR THAT REASON, EVEN THOUGH I WILL NOT -- I WILL WORK TO NOT IMPLEMENT THE FIRST FIVE IN ANY OF THOSE RED ZONES. I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS. 1-8. NOW WE'RE BACK ON THE OTHER REMAINING IDO AMENDMENTS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO AMENDMENT B9 LIABLED PREAPPLICATION REVIEW TEAM MEETINGS. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT PRE-APPLICATION REVIEW TEAM MEETING BE REQUIRED FOR MANY APPLICATIONS IN THE IDO. THE IDO TODAY DOES REQUIRE A PRT MEETING FOR MOST APPLICATION TYPES. THAT'S A MEETING BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY PRIOR TO SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION. IT'S A NON-BINDING CONVERSATION WHERE AN APPLICANT, ESPECIALLY PERHAPS AN APPLICANT WHO IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S REGULATION OR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS CAN COME TO THE CITY AND SAY HERE'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING IN MY PROPERTY, TELL ME THE REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO ME AND WHICH BODY I NEED TO GO BEFORE TO RECEIVE APPROVAL. THOSE ARE NON-BINDING CONVERSATIONS THAT AIM TO INFORM AN APPLICANT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THOSE A REQUIREMENT. THEY WOULD BE VOLUNTARY. THE DEPARTMENT OFFERS THEM. NOT EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO DO THEM IF THEY DON'T WANT TO. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FIVE APPLICATION TYPES. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO STRIKE THE PRT REQUIREMENT. THERE'S FIVE THAT WOULD STAY IN PLACE BECAUSE THOSE APPLICATION TYPES REALLY DO NEED A PRECONVERSATION PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL. AND THOSE FIVE ACTIONS ARE LISTED ON THE BULLET POINT HERE. THEY'RE LISTED IN THE AMENDMENT ITSELF. THEY ARE LARGELY RELATED TO SUBDIVISION ACTIONS AND ACTIONS ON PROPERTIES DESIGNATED HISTORIC AREAS. THOSE TWO BUCKETS OF DECISIONS TEND TO BE VERY COMPLEX AND DO WARRANT A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY PRIOR TO APPLICATION. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MISUNDERSTANDING FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT WHEN IT WAS FIRST DISCUSSED. THERE'S AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE REQUIREMENT FOR MANY APPLICATIONS THAT AN APPLICANT HAVE A MEETING WITH AN APPLICABLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRIOR TO SUBMITTING APPLICATION. I THINK THERE WAS CONCERN FROM THE PUBLIC THAT MEETING WAS PROPOSED TO BE STRICKEN THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT. FOR THE RECORD, I'LL SAY THAT REQUIREMENT WILL REMAIN UNTOUCHED. THIS IS NOT ADDRESSING THOSE. ONLY THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING BETWEEN THE APPLICANT ASK THE CITY. I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: A QUICK QUESTION. ONE CAN STILL REQUEST A PRT MEETING. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES WHERE THIS WOULD LIMIT WHERE IT'S REQUIRED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WOULD STILL REMAIN VOLUNTARY. EVEN FOR THE DECISIONS THEY'RE BEING STRICKEN FOR AS REQUIRED, IF AN APPLICANT IS COMING IN FOR A DECISION AND WANTED TO HAVE THAT PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION THE DEPARTMENT WOULD STILL DO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: IN MY OWN PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE THE PRT IS VERY HELPFUL. ON MANY PROJECTS. I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE ONLY THESE GROUP OF FIVE. COUNCILOS -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. FOR THE AMENDMENT. I THINK WHAT WE FOUND IS WE'RE REQUIRING SO MANY OF THESE IT LOST ITS VALUE. IT GOT WATERED DOWN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS WOULD BE NUMBER SIX. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. GO TO B10. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS, THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR WHEN TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO ARE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE IDO ANNUAL UPDATE PROCESS. WHAT THIS WOULD CALL FOR IS WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GOES TO PUT THEIR LIST OF AMENDMENTS TOGETHER OR WHEN COUNCIL STAFF IS WORKING ON AMENDMENTS FOR COUNCILORS LATER ON IN THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS THAT SOMEINFORMATION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE BE ACOMPANYING EACH INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENT. THAT INCLUDES THE PAGE OF THE IDO PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED, THE SECTION NUMBER AND THE HEADING OF THE IDO THAT THE AMENDMENT IS PROPOSING TO REVISE AND LASTLY, A SUMMARY FOR EACH AMENDMENT TO EXPLAIN THE INTENT OF THE AMENDMENT, ORIGIN OF AMENDMENT, AND THE NEED FOR THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THIS AS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. IF I MAY, I THINK THIS IS A NO-BRAINER FOR US. IT MAKES THE IDO A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY FOR RESIDENTS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THIS. IT ACTUALLY CAME UP THROUGH A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. INCLUDING THE DISTRICT SIX COALITION. IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DO WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT MOST OF US LOOK AT. IT ENSURES THE PUBLIC GETS MORE OF THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GO TO A VOTE. THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL GO TO WHAT'S LABELLED B11 WHICH IS MOVED WOULD BE NUMBER EIGHT. COUNCILOR JONES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, AMENDMENT B11 PROPOSES SOME ADDITIONAL CANNABIS PROVISIONS ON A CITY WIDE LEVEL. THIS WOULD BE DIKT -- DIKT DISTINCT FROM THE CANNABIS WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. IT REQUIRES IF A CANNABIS RETAILER IS GOING TO HAVE AN ON-SITE CONSUMPTION AREA AS THE STATE DOES ALLOW THEM TO DO, THOSE AREAS WOULD HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED PORTION OF A BUILDING. IT WOULD LIMIT THE RETAIL SIZE OF THE RETAIL USE TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE MXT, MIXED USE TRANSITION ZONE DISTRICT, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT IF AN APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL TO HAVE A CANNABIS CULTIVATION USE OR DERIVED PRODUCT MANUFACTURING USE THEY MUST PRIDE A LETTER OF AVAILABILITY FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE-BERNALILLO COUNTY WATER UTILITY AUTHORITY. I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? >>COUN. JONES: NOT FROM ME. THIS IS A CLEAN-UP. AS I UNDERSTAND, THE WATER AUTHORITY LETTER OF AVAILABILITY IS REQUIRED WHETHER WE PUT IT IN THIS OR NOT. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, WHEN THE STATE IS DOING THEIR PERMITTING FOR THESE CANNABIS USES, APPLICANTS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT TO THE STATE AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THEORETICALLY THAT DOCUMENTATION SHOULD ALREADY EXIST. AND WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A NEW REQUIREMENT. BUT SOMETHING THAT CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TO THE STATE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE A VOTE HAPPENS. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT EIGHT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR JONES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO WAIT ON THIS ONE AND DEFER IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING FOR COUNCIL. THE REASON IS WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO WALK BY AN OUTDOOR PATIO AND HAVE PEOPLE SMOKING AND HAVING THE AROMA OF CANNABIS, PEOPLE DRINK ON OUTDOOR PATIOS, AND PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES. WHAT'S TO SAY MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T LOOK TO THOSE THAT ARE EATING EDIBLES AND COOKIES WHERE THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN AROMA. WHILE THE INDOOR FACTOR WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGALITY ON A STATE-WIDE ISSUE. WHILE THE CITY HAS ITS OWN ABILITY TO COME UP WITH SPECIFIC RULES IN REGARD TO THIS, I WOND IF THERE IS FINE TUNING TO GO WHERE MAYBE ANY KIND OF -- I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT TERM OTHER THAN SMOKING. IF IT'S INHALATION OF -- BUT IF IT'S IN ANOTHER CONSUMPTION AREA THAT IS ALLOWED, THEN PERHAPS WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT'S DOABLE TOO. >>COUN. JONES: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. HOWEVER THIS WAS REQUESTING BY PLANNING. I GUESS TLOOR -- THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: DIRECTOR VARELA. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU READ MY MIND. I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH REGULATION AND LICENSING. THE CANNABIS REGULATION ACT CONTEMPLATED TWO TYPES OF CONSUMPTION LICENSES, ONE FOR SMOKING AND VAPING AND THE OTHER FORM FOR INGESTION. REGULATION LICENSING HAS LOST INTERESTING IN ISSUING THOSE TWO TYPES OF CANNABIS LICENSING. IT COULD BE THAT THEY'RE SIMPLY OVERWHELMED WITH OTHER ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING WITH COMPLIANCE AND TRYING TO SHUT DOWN MOLD ARFARMS I DO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DISTINCTION. WE SHOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION TO DEFERRAL FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS WHILE WE AS A CITY TAKE THAT ON OURSELVES TO FIGURE THAT OUT SINCE THERE APPEARS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. YOU'RE RIGHT. WHAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS WALKING BY, THINK OF THE KELLY'S SIDE ON NOB HILL. A BIG PATIO. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE SMELLING A CIGAR BAR. WE DON'T WANT TO SMELL CIGARETTES OR PEOPLE SMOKING CANS EITHER. WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS. I ALSO WANT TO STATE THAT LAS CRUCES WHICH OPENED A CANNABIS CONSUMPTION AREA DID STATE THAT ALL CANNABIS CONSUMPTION AREAS MUST BE INDOORS. THEY WENT FOR WHAT IS IN COUNCILOR JONES'S AMENDMENT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK IF ALBUQUERQUE WANTS TO LEAD THE WAY AND TAKE SOME TIME TO TRY TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS FINE WITH THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULES UNTIL 11 P.M. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE FEIGN -- FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR WHILE HE'S UP THERE? >>COUN. DAVIS: REALLY QUICKLY, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO MAKE A POINT AND DISTINCTION. I THINK THIS IS A TECHNICAL CLEAN UP. I DON'T SEE CONFLICT THAT IMPACTS. I MIGHT ASK DIRECTOR AND THE SPONSOR IF WE'RE GOING TO DEFER TO CHECK ON THE CURRENT RULES. P I BELIEVE ON MAY 1 THEY DON'T REQUIRE WATER FOR CANNABIS MANUFACTURING AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INVOLVE THE USE OF WATER. I THINK THOSE RULES ARE STILL UNDER THE EMERGENCY PROCESS. I WONDER IF WE LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE FOR STATE USE. MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY IS THEY'RE OVERWHELMED AS WELL WITH THESE WATER AVAILABILITY LETTERS THAT SOMEONE CAN SATISFY WITH A WATER -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. JONES: IF THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH DEFERRING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, JUST A POINT OF ORDER. SINCE IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL BILL. THE PROPER METHOD WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. AND YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION THE NEXT -- YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. JONES: I GOT THE OKAY NOD. I MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW. >>COUN. BENTON: I WAS RESERVING THE RIGHT TO MOVE SOMETHING I HAD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS. AMENDMENT BB12 PROPOSES TO AMEN THE IDO. TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IS NOT CONSIDERED MAJOR OPEN SPACE UNTIL IT HAS THE DESIGNATION. THE IDO HAS TWO ZONE DISTRICTS. THOSE ARE LISTED HERE. THAT'S THE NRTRD ZONE DISTRICT. AND THE NRPOC ZONE DISTRICT. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO BEING WHETHER OPEN SPACE IS OWNED OR BY THE CITY OR OUTSIDE ENTITY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT DEFINITION CLARIFY SOMETHING IS NOT CONSIDERED MAJOR OPEN SPACE UNTIL IT HAS THE PROPER ZONING DESIGNATION TO ENSURE THAT WHEN THE CITY DOES ACQUIRE MAJOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE PROPER NOTIFICATION IS GIVEN TO PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE IT CLEAR ENTITLEMENTS MAY BE CHANGING. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU. THIS WOULD BE NUMBER NINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST REALLY IS A GIVE CLARITY AND DEFINITION OF OWN SPACE AND CLARITY TO NOTICE AND PREDICTABILITY. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. LET'S GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 8-1. NOW WE'LL BE ON B13. THIS IS COUNCILOR PEÑA. REPLACEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AMENDMENT B13 PROPOSES TO REPLACE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. THERE IS ABOUT A 65 OR SO PAGE EXHIBIT THAT ACOMPANIES THIS AMENDMENT WHERE MEMBERS OF THE THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW THE TEXT IN THE IDO THAT WILL CHANGE AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT. THE PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD OR DRB WITH A NEW BODY CALLED THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER THAT WOULD BE A DHO PERSON. THIS AMENDMENT GOES TOON SPECIFY WHAT THAT DHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. WHAT TYPE OF POSITION THAT WOULD BE, THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT THE DHO MUST HAVE. THE DRB IS A SIX MEMBER BOARD OF TECHNICAL CITY STAFF MEMBERS. FOLKS WITH EXPERTISE IN TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND PARKS AND RECREATION AND DRAINAGE. THOSE FOLKS MAKE UP A BOARD WHERE APPLICANTS BRING A REQUEST TO EACH OF THOSE TECHNICAL FOLKS REVIEWS AND ANALYZES THAT REQUEST BASED ON THEIR TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. AND THEY ALSO MAKE IT DECISION ON THAT REQUEST. THAT'S VERY UNIQUE TO KNEE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BODY WITHIN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THERE'S NO OTHER APPROVAL BODY WHERE THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING HELD WHERE CITY STAFF MEMBERS BOTH ANALYZE THE REQUEST AND MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION. THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS IN THIS CASE WHERE WEARING TWO HATS. THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO SEPARATE THOSE HATS. MOVING FORWARD, IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS, THE DHR PERSON WOULD CONDUCT THE HEARING. THEY RECEIVE STAFF SUPPORT FROM THOSE EXISTING STAFF MEMBERS ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD WITH ACTIVE STAFF MEMBERS SUPPORTING THAT DHO PERSON. THEY WOULD PROVIDE A STAFF REPORT OF SOME TYPE TO THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER FOR AN APPLICATION, PROVIDE THAT PERSON A RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER THEY FEEL THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE APPROVED OR DENIED BASED ON THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICATION MET OR DIDN'T MEET. THE DHO WOULD HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING. THEY TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND ISSUE A FINAL DETERMINATION. THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO EXPEDITE SOME OF THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESSES. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD TAKES AN AVERAGE FOUR HEARINGS TO PROVIDE AN APPROVAL TO AN APPLICANT. THE THOUGHT BEHIND THIS IS THAT DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MORE EXPEDITED REVIEW BECAUSE CITY STAFF MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO MEET WITH APPLICANTS ON THE OFF WEEKS WHEN THE DHO HEARING OFFICER IS NOT MEETING. AND A LOT OF THOSE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR TECHNICAL DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS AND THE CITY CAN BE WORKED OUT BEHIND THE SCENES SO BY THE TIME THE APPLICATION REACHES THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU HAVE A CLEAN REQUEST BEFORE THE DHO AND HOPEFULLY THAT APPROVAL CAN BE REACHED A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY. THIS IS A BIG CHANGE IN THE IDO, HENCE THE MAJOR EXHIBIT THAT'S BEHIND THIS AMENDMENT. AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT FIRST? >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE A DUE PASS OF AMENDMENT TEN. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD HELP TO SPEED UP A PROCESS. AS WE ALL KNOW IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS OR DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS OR BUSINESS BUSINESS TIME IS MONEY. AND WE NEED TO GET THIS HANDLED EXPERTLY. AND EFFICIENTLY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER DISCUSSION? DIRECTOR VARELA. I WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM ON THIS. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, SPONSORS, THIS IS PERHAPS THE BIGGEST PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE IDO IN SEVERAL YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH LEGAL DEPARTMENT, DMD OR PLANNING DIRECTOR. I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO. THIS WAS NOT AN ADMINISTRATION PROPOSAL BY ANY MEANS. THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM CITY COUNCIL'S PLANNING STAFF. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO HEAR TWO THINGS. ONE I KNEW, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, ALL SPOKE AGAINST IT. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN BALANCE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS REPRESENTED BY NAOP SAID IT WAS RECEIVED IN A LUKEWARM FASHION. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE SPEED AT WHICH THIS APPEARS TO BE HAPPENING. NOT BECAUSE IT'S THE WORST IDEA IN THE WORLD BY ANY MEANS. I'VE ALWAYS SAID IF WE CAN SPEED THINGS UP AND GET A FASTER YES OR NO WITH OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS AND MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION, THEN THOSE ARE ALWAYS GOOD CHANGES. FOR THIS, PERHAPS THE LARGEST CHANGE, THE LARGEST CHANGE IN IDO HISTORY, TO BE INTRODUCED THE LAST MONTH OF ABOUT 12-MONTH PROCESS FOR MENDING THE IDO COULD RESULT IN US ACTING TOO HASTY. PERHAPS, IF THERE'S SIX MONTHS IMPLEMENTATION THAT COULD HELP OUT. 90 DAY PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION WHEN WE HAVE TO WORK OUT ALL THE KINKS, REPURPOSE THE STAFF THAT I HAVE. THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD TEAM, THAT'S NOT THEIR ONLY JOB. THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALL EXPERTS AND PROFESSIONALS AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. ENGINEERS, DESIGN EXPERTS, THEY BECOME A DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION TEAM. WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD DO THAT AS A VERY SMOOTH TRANSITION FASHION. WE HAVE APPLICATIONS PENDING FOR THE DRB. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION THERE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT DON'T LOVE IT. VERY USED TO THE CURRENT PROCESS AND SUCCESSFUL AT IT. IF WE HAD MORE TIME HERE, THIS MAY BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA. BUT TO BRINK -- DRINK BRING >> I WORRY ABOUT SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE, DIRECTOR. I THINK THERE'S SOME -- THIS IS SOMETHING I TALKED ABOUT WITH STAFF. ONE BIG CONCERN. THEY'VE BEEN TASKED WITH THINGS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED QUASI JUDICIAL. ANYWAY. I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT IT SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE IDO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. LIKE I SAID, NOT THE WORST IDEA IN THE WORLD. PROBABLY A VERY GOOD IDEA IF WE TAKE THE TIME TO IMPLEMENT IT CORRECTLY. IF AT 90 DAYS WE'RE CHANGED TO SIX MONTHS, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE THAT WE ACTUALLY REPURPOSE AND RETOOL THE DRB INTO A DRV COORDINATION TEAM. WE ALSO HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY UNDER CONTRACT. IT WOULD BE A QUASI JUDICIAL FUNCTION, THEY WOULDN'T BE SOME EMPLOYEE I CAN APPOINT TO THAT POSITION. WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP OR RFI AND FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE ENGINEERING AND LEGAL BACKGROUND TO GET THEM UNDER CONTRACT. WHEN YOU DEAL WITH A PROFESSIONAL AT THAT LEVEL THEY DON'T SIMPLY GIVE TWO WEEKS NOTICE TO THE PRIOR EMPLOYER AND COME ON BOARD. THEY HAVE TO KNIFE I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK THAT BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COMMUNITY, IF THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OF HOW WE IMPLEMENT THIS DOWN THE ROAD WOULD COME TO PERHAPS AGREE IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WAIT TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL TWO WEEKS SO THERE'S TIME -- I KNOW WE'RE ALL BRIGHT EYED AND BUSHY TAILED? I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT I ALSO CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS. I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. I JUST WONDER HOW YOU MAY WANT TO PROCEED WITH SIX MONTHS, 90 DAYS, THREE MONTHS. HOWEVER THAT LOOKS TOMORROW MORNING AFTER A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT. TO GIVE US TWO WEEKS -- >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, YEAH. WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE THE MEETING. I THINK THIS IS DEFENDANTLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO. WEAN WE HAVE THE CITY EMPLOYEES REVIEWING CASE AND MAKING THE RULES AND IMPLEMENTING THE RULE, THERE'S REALLY SOME ISSUES THERE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO REMIND THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BECAME TOO CUMBERSOME IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. EXPEDITING AND STREAMLINING IS PARAMOUNT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THIS HAPPENS. PUTTING ALL THAT ON JUST ONE BODY, I JUST DON'T THINK IT ADDS SERVICE TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. I WOULD LOVE TO PASS IT TONIGHT, BUT IF THE WILL IS TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS I WOULD BE OKAY. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S FINISH THE DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. JONES: ACTUALLY I LIKE TO DEFER THIS. I LIKE TO DEFER THIS FOR 30 DAYS. >>COUN. BENTON: WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M ACTUALLY WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN ON THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO DEFER IT. ALSO, THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IDO. I DON'T THINK SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS READY TO ROCK. I THINK WE SHOULD SEPARATE THE IDO FROM SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES OUT OF THE VOTE. THERE'S GOOD THINGS THERE. I THINK WE NEED TO BALANCE THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT OUT. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? THAT WOULD BE HELD UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR WHEN COUNCILOR PEÑA TO WITHDRAW HER MOTION. THAT'S THE PRACTICE WE'VE HAD WHEN WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND YOU'RE DECLINING TO ACTIVITY. COUNCILOR PEÑA ARE YOU WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, AND WE'LL HEAR IT AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY. 14. OVERNIGHT SHELTERS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAS C14. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THIS IS AMENDMENT B14. THIS IS THE FINAL AMENDMENT IN THE PACKET. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS PROPOSES TO MAKE CHANGES TO WHERE OVERNIGHT SHELTERS ARE ALLOWED TO OCCUR. THE PRIMARY PROPOSAL IS THEY WOULD BECOME PERMISSIVE IN THE MXH ZONE DISTRICT. THEY'RE PROPOSED TO REMAIN CONDITIONAL. THIS TAKES IT FROM CONDITIONAL TO PERMISSIVE. THERE'S A NEW THING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO OFFER A PLAN TO THE CITY AND THERE'S CLEAN UP WORK ON A DEFINITION TO OVERNIGHT SHELTER TO DESCRIBE WHAT AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER IS. AND TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE DISTINCTION OF AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER TO SIMILAR LAND USES. I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M NOT PLANNING ON MOVING THIS TONIGHT. THERE'S LEGAL QUESTIONS. FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL PUT IT OFF FOR THE TWO-WEEK PERIOD. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THAT'S NOT BEING MOVED. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A -- OR ASK A QUESTION OR MAKE A SUGGESTION. IF THERE'S A WAY TO SEPARATE THESE AMENDMENTS OR EVEN -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SEPARATE. IF WE CAN VOTE ON THIS BILL SEPARATELY WITH THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS WITH REGARD TO LIVING SPACES AND OUTDOOR SPACES AND AMENDMENTS UNRELATED. THIS REALLY DOES SEEM LIKE LOGROLLING. I GUESS NOT I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I'M DESCRIBING THAT THESE ARE SUCH DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT WE'LL VOTE ON WITH ONE VOTE. AND THEY'RE SO DIFFERENT. I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD CLEAN UP BILLS, GOOD CHANGES TO THE IDO. AND THERE'S THE OTHER ISSUES OF SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO A MAJOR CHANGE AND HOW WE OPERATE. AND WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY REGARDING THE UNSHELTERED. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN -- IS THERE A CLEAN WAY OR GOOD WAY WE CAN SEPARATE OUT THOSE TWO ISSUES WITHIN AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO? AND STILL VOTE TO THE CHANGES TO THE IDO? DO THEM COMPLETELY SEPARATE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE BASELINE WHEN WE START WITH THAT QUESTION IS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IS WITHIN THE IDO NOW. THAT IS WITHIN THE BILL. TO THE EXTENT THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE BILL THAT SEVERED THAT OUT, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. I GUESS THE IDO CONTEMPLATES MAJOR AMENDMENTS WILL HAPPEN THROUGH THIS ANNUAL UPDATE PROCESS. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ONLY WAY TO AMEND THE IDO. I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THE PUBLIC GENERALLY ACCEPTS THAT'S WHEN THE MAJOR AMENDMENTS COME THROUGH. IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO AMEND IT OUTSIDE OF THE ANNUAL UPDATE PROCESS. HOWEVER THAT REQUIRES THE SPONSORSHIP AND INITIATION OF A NEW BILL WHICH WOULD GO BACK TO THE EPC AND START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE A LONG TIME FRAME BEFORE IT CAME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND IT WOULD INVOLVE THE REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF EPC AND TRIP TO LUPZ BEFORE IT GETS BACK HERE. IN GENERAL THE ANNUAL UPDATE WILL BEGIN FOR NEXT YEAR VERY SOON AFTER YOU VOTE ON THIS BILL. THAT CAN PROCEED SOONER IF IT'S A SEPARATE PROPOSAL. IT IS DEFINITELY A LENGTHY PROCESS YOU LOOK AT TO SEPARATE THEM OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANKS, MR. PRESIDENT. UNFORTUNATELY, NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS BILL. THERE'S SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF DISAGREEMENT ON IT WITH OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'RE TOGETHER ON AND REASONS WHY WE WOULD VOTE TO AMEND IT AND THERE'S OTHER REASONS WE WOULD BE IN POLAR AUPGZS. I GUESS WE'RE IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, COUNCILOR LEWIS. YOU KNOW, THIS BILL ACTUALLY -- BEFORE 14 ACTUALLY HAS LANGUAGE THAT KIND OF GETS TO WHAT MY POINT WAS EARLIER. THIS ZONING PERMISSIVENESS IS DIFFERENT CITY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO [ INAUDIBLE ]. IT WOULD ENABLE THE CREATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY. THIS ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAS IN HERE THAT THIS USE REQUIRES AN OPERATION PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED THAT SHALL PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES AND SECURITY PROTOCOLS AND CONTACT INFORMATION. THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHO WOULD REVIEW THAT. THAT MIGHT BE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. I THINK THIS IS DIFFICULT WORKING WITH THIS ISSUE. AND PEOPLE WHO NEED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SPECIAL HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS WELL. IT'S A BAD -- IT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH IN THE ZONING CODE. IT'S BAD FIT FOR THE ZONING CODE IN TERMS OF A PLACE TO DEBATE THE IDEA. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THAT ENDS OUR WORK FOR TONIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE A DEFERRAL ON THIS UNTIL THE 14th. >> MR. PRESIDENT, TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL PUTS YOU AT MAY 16. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL THE 16th. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE DEFERRED IT. I'LL MOVE O-17. THIS IS DESIGNATING BARELAS COMMUNITY CENTER AS A CITY LANDMARK. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. I HOPE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BARELAS COMMUNITY CENTER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYONE FROM STAFF THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS. IT'S AN AMAZING BUILDING. IT WAS BUILT IN THE WPA DAYS. THOSE DEPRESSION ERA WORKED -- IT'S AN ADOBE BUILDING. IT'S AN AMAZING BUILDING. I HAD THE PLEASURE ON WORKING ON IT MYSELF. SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT'S WORTHY FOR THE CITY LANDMARK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ADMINISTRATION WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? IF NOT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKE US TO ITEM D, COUNCILOR PEÑA. R-10. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-10 IS DIRECTOR THE CITY TO DEVELOP AN ENHANCE RECYCLING BAG CALLING FOR RECYCLING REPORT AND EXPANDING LITTER REMOVAL SERVICES. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY DISCUSSION? THERE IS SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. GO AHEAD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. WE HAVE TREVOR AND FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF THE SPEAKERS EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES AND WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING ENDS. YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER -- >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE WE SUSPEND THE RULES. HOW FAR ARE WE GOING TO GET? WE'LL DO IT UNTIL A QUARTER AFTER. THANK YOU, THAT PASSES. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT BENTON, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M TREVOR, I SUPPORT R10. IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE CITY'S RECYCLING PROGRAM. SECTION 1 KRURBGS C REDUCES THE AVOIDABLE DETRUCKIVE PRACTICES. IT WILL IMPROVE UNDERSTANDING OF RECYCLE AND WASTE MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE CREATION OF THE REPORT. USING THIS IMPROVED DATA AND THE PROPOSED SITY OWNED PLANT WE CAN CAN MAKE NECESSARY EFFORTS TO CURB THE CLIMATE CATASTROPHE. LASTLY, IT WILL EXPANDY CITY -- IT WILL SEND THE MESSAGE THAT MARGINALIZED LIVES MATTER. THERE IS AN UNDUE BURDEN ON MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY TO OUR MOST GREATLY IMPACTED. I ASK THIS COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT R10 FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR PLANET AND PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROSEMARY. >> HELLO. I'M UNMUTED. I HAD ALMOST FORGOT I SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE TOO. IT'S IMPORTANT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DETERMINED THAT YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO CONTINUE THE PLASTIC BAG BAN. I UNDERSTAND YOUR LOGIC. IF WE'RE GOING TO STILL HAVE SINGLE USE PLASTICS THEN WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE NEED TO STUDY OUR RECYCLING MORE EFFECTIVE THAN IT IS NOW. WE DO NEED TO KNOW ON AN ONGOING BASIS HOW PLASTICS ARE IMPACTING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND QUALITY OF OUR LIVES. I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND LET US TRY TO GET HANDLE ON THIS WRETCHED PLASTIC. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: BACK ON THE BILL. ANY DISCUSSION? CORRECTOR WILLENED. >> SORRY I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON. I GUESS ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT ZOOM IS YOU CAN GET WHEREVER. I JUST WANT TO SAY WE WORKED WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA ON THIS LEGISLATION. WE PUT IN SOME WORK WITH HER. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD LEGISLATION TO LAY OUT GROUND WORK ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. ESPECIALLY WITH THE TASK FORCE ADDRESSING PLASTIC BAGS. WE STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND A LOT OF THE THINGS IN THIS LEGISLATION WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS TO COMPLETE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD AND SEEING HOW TO BETTER SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE WHEN IT COMES TO RECYCLING. WE DO EDUCATION, BUTTE WE'VE ALREADY WANTED TO DO MORE EDUCATION. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT XHOOZ -- COMES TO YOUNGER KIDS AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. WE'RE GOOD AND WE WANT TO SEE US GOING. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION WITH THE DIRECTOR. SOMEWHAT GOING ON WITH RECYCLED PRODUCTS? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THEM? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? WHAT TONNAGE ARE WE INVOLVED IN? ARE WE SENDING TO OUT RESIGHINGLING? >> YES, AS I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, OUR CONTAMINATION RATE IS CALCULATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IT'S DONE THE SAME WAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS WITH EVERY CITY. OUR CURRENT CONTAMINATION RATE IS 35%. 35% OF WHAT WE SEND TO OUR PROCESSOR IS GARBAGE. WHICH MEANSEGETH EITHER THEY'RE CONTAMINATING WHAT'S IN THE BLUE BEEN. WHICH MEANS 65% OF WHAT WE TAKE IN IS BEING RECYCLED WHICH IS ABOUT ROUGHLY 20,000 TONS. MAYBE MORE. I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER. I CAN EMAIL YOU THAT. EVERY YEAR OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS GETTING OUR CONTAMINATION RATE DOWN. WE WANT LESS CONTAMINATES TO GO IN THE BLUE BEEN -- B IRKS NS. WE HAVE YOU TUBE. NOW WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD INTO ANOTHER PHASE WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO START TEACHING PEOPLE AT A YOUNGER AGE HOW TO DO IT CORRECTLY? WE SAW A SPIKE IN CONTAMINATION. IT WAS A 2% INCREASE. A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE HOME DURING THE PANDEMIC. UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR BLACK BEEN WOULD GET FULL AND THEY DECIDE TO PUT THINGS IN BLUE BEEN. WE HOPE NOW THAT WE'RE OUT OF PANDEMIC AND MOVING FORWARD. PEOPLE WON'T DO THAT. WHATEVER IS CONTAMINATED GETS REMOVES AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTRACT TO PICK IT UP. THEY WILL ONLY TAKE WHAT'S RECYCLABLE. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS NOT RECYCLABLE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, DIRECTOR, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM AND HAVE SIX FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES ? >> THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY AROUND $285,000 ANNUALLY. TO ADD SIX FULL-TIME POSITIONS. AND I KNOW CURRENTLY THERE'S NOT A FUNDING MECHANISM IN THE LEGISLATION. I THINK WE HAVE OUR UPCOMING COUNCIL HEARING WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET. THERE ARE AREAS WE CAN WORK TOWARD GETTING THAT FUNDED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, . THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW THAT NUMBER. SO I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS ? THIS HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE ITEM F. R-23. ADOPTING THE 2022 ACTION PLAN AND PROGRAM INVESTMENT SUMMARY FOR THE EXPENDITURE AND EMERGENCY GRANT FUND PROVIDING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THERE'S SOMEONE TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS TAD. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS TAD. IF YOU START -- YOU NEVER SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE. THAT'S SIMPLE AS THAT. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU CAN MAKE DIFFERENCE AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING. YOU CAN PUMP IT SO MANY MONEY. MILLIONS MONEY FOR THIS NON-PROFIT. FOR SANT MARTIN. MANY PEOPLE THEMSELVES, NOT MUCH GOES TO HOMELESS PEOPLE. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE ISSUE LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL AND SO ON FOR YEARS. AND NOW I AM IN THE AREA. I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON FROM EVERY DAY. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH -- MONEY, YOU JUST -- GIVING FREE PROPERTY. GIVING MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND WHAT IS SUPPORT? MOST OF IT THEY JUST PUSH IT. [ INAUDIBLE ]. TAKING GOVERNMENT MONEY. IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROSEMARY. >> I GUESS I AM. I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M STILL HERE. I SIGNED FOR THIS WHEN I WASN'T AWARE I WOULD END UP SPEAKING THREE TIMES. THAT'S OKAY. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS RESOLUTION IT INCLUDES PLANS TO APPROVE THE DRAFT ALLOCATION PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS DEVELOPED FOR HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. WHEN I WAS REVISED A DAY AGO, I READ IT OVER. AND ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO I MADE A COMMENT AT THE TAIL END OF THE COMMENT PERIOD. I HOPE WE WILL USE THIS AS ONE OF THE MANY RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY, NOT JUST UNHOUSED, BUT AFRAID EVERY DAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE UNHOUSED. WE KNOW THEY WERE ALL THESE RENTAL RULES AND ORDINANCES, COURT CASES THAT SAID PEOPLE COULD NOT BE EVECTED IN THE PANDEMIC. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DIDN'T SOMETIMES HAVE -- STILL PILING UP. THERE'S PEOPLE AS PRICES ARE GOING UP FOR RENTAL PROPERTY, SALES PROPERTY, SOME OF US HOPE TO SALE A HOUSE, PEOPLE ARE LIVING WITH THEIR FAMILY CHILDREN IN THE HOME SEE IT AND IT SCARES THEM. IF WE CAN USE SOME OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS FOR A WHOLE RANGE OF HOME OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE, TEMPORARY HOME AND FORMER MOTELS, ROOMS IN EXISTING MOTELS, SUPPORTED REND RENT IN RENTAL HOUSES OR APARTMENTS AND OTHER KINDS OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE MORE FAMILIES WE HAVE, NOT ONLY INDOORS BUT SECURELY INDOORS. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IT'S IN YOUR PACKETS. IT JUST STRIKES SOME LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE SCOPE OF THIS RELATED TO CIBOLA LOOP. IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN SEVERAL RFP'S BEEN PUT SUN UNSUCCESSFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT WITHIN MY DISTRICT. OR UTILIZE THIS PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER USAGE THAT WOULD APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS. SO, MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS TAKES THE SCOPE FOR CIBOLA LOOP OUT OF THIS BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: DOES THIS AFFECT THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROGRAM OR ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR STANDING WITH HUD? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH HUD FUNDS SEVERAL YEARS AGO. IF THE PROJECT IS REMOVED FROM THE PLAN, EVENTUALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY OR REIMBURSE THE CITY BACK FOR THE HUD FUNDS THAT WERE UTILIZED TO PERCHISH -- SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR HOUSING. TO TAKE THIS OUT OF THE PLAN TODAY IS A COUNCIL POLICY DECISION. HOWEVER, WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN AT SOME POINT REIMBURSE THE FUND BACK, I BELIEVE IT'S $1.4 MILLION FOR -- AND THE PROPERTY WOULD BECOME CITY OWNED PROPERTY. THERE'S A FINANCIAL ISSUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS WOULD GO BACK TO THE HUD FUND AND BE AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER PROJECT WE DO WITHIN THE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS BE ABLE TO WORK ON A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. AND ALSO POINT OUT THAT PART OF THE HUD REQUIREMENTS IS THAT WE START CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE DOLLARS TO BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY AND IT'S BEEN FAR BEYOND THE RECOMMENDED ALLOWABLE TIME BECAUSE OF THE FAILED RFP FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. ANYWAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDEN -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I BELIEVE I DID. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AND THEN YOU WERE GOING TO WORK TO FIND A DIFFERENT PROPERTY TO USE THE HUD FUNDING ON, IS THAT ALLOWABLE THROUGH HUD? OR DOES TAT -- THAT MEAN WE WERE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE AND HAVE TO REPAY? >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. MELENDREZ MAY NEED TO BE ASKED. WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. WE'LL HAVE HER RESPOND. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, IF THIS AMENDMENT IS PASSED, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY DOES HAVE TO GO BACK INTO THE HUD FUNDING. IT IS ABLE TO BE USED BUT THE FUNDING WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH SOMETHING NOT RELATED TO THIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M CONSCIOUS OF THE CLOCK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE FIVE VOTES TO DO THIS ONE MORE PEOPLE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SUSPEND THE RULES TO 11:25 TO GET THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: MOVED AND SECONDED TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 11:25. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? 7-2 I BELIEVE. >>COUN. DAVIS: ON THIS MATTER, I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT'S LATE TO BE DOING THIS. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE WRITE UP IN THE BILL THAT THE FAILURE WAS RELATED TO UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS DURING THE PANDEMIC AND CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY. IT DOESN'T SAY NO ONE RESPONDED. THE LAST ONE WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE CITY AND COULD BE REISSUED. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. THEY SHOULD BE SPRAED ACROSS THE CITY. I'M NOT HEARING FROM STAFF THAT ALLOWING THIS OTHER RFP TO GO FORWARD IF IT ALLOWS TO CONTINUE WOULD JEOPARDIZE US ANYWAY. WHEREAS THIS LAST MINUTE AMENDMENT WOULD DO THAT AND JEOPARDIZE BUDGETS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT. THE COMMUNITY ALL AROUND HAS BEEN AGAINST THIS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION WITHIN MY DISTRICT IS WITHIN THE DIRECT VICINITY OF THIS PROPERTY. THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTION OF MULTIHOUSING IS RIGHT HERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT. I'VE NEVER VOTED AGAINST ANY PROPOSAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EIGHT YEARS PREVIOUSLY. I'M NOT OPPOSING THIS. I LIKE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT, TO IDENTIFY THAT WE AGREED TO FIND A DIFFERENT LOCATION TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS. AND FOR THAT SAME PURPOSE. DEFINITELY A DESIRE TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT AREA. MAYBE NOT FAR FROM THIS LOCATION, BUT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR MY DISTRICT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO NOT MOVE THIS -- LIKE NOT PASS THIS AMENDMENT AND STILL WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND MOVE THE HUD FUNDING OVER ONCE THAT PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE PLAN IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND SUBMITTED TO HUD BY EARLY JULY. YOUR POINT, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO DEFER IT UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IF THAT'S THE WISH OF THE COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE THE PLAN BY THE END OF THE MONTH TO BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, IF IT GETS APPROVED AND SUBMITTED IT'S SET IN STONE FOREVER, OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE VEFRPLY BROUGHT BACK TO HUD AND SAY WE'VE IDENTIFIED A DIFFERENT PROPERTY THAT FITS THE NEEDS AND THAT CHANGES? OR IT'S A ONE AND DONE THING AND WE MOVE ON WITH IT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS THE 2022 PLAN. IT COULD STAY IN THE PLAN IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T GET DONE. I'LL DEFER TO MY STAFF BEHIND ME IF I'M WRONG, TELL ME. I THINK IT CAN BE REMOVED AT ANY POINT IN THE PROCESS. WE JUST HAVE TO AMEND THE PLAN. THE PLAN IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED BY JULY, MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT HAS THE OPPOSITE EFFECT WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOMETHING QUICKLY AND HELP US TO DO THAT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CAN WE GET A CLARIFICATION TO THE SECOND? >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. LET ME SEE THE HANDS AGAIN. THAT PASSES ON A 5-4. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ON THE LAST ITEM. THIS IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT. WE NEED TO TAKE VOTE ON THE BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM G. R-26. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-26 IS ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT TO MONITOR SPEED AND CREATE A NEW SPEED ENFORCEMENT FUND IN FISCAL YEAR 2023. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS THE ONLY COUNCILOR TO VOTE AGAINST THE PROGRAM. I APPRECIATE OUR COLLEAGUES FOR MAKING IT BETTER AND OFFERING THINGS LIKE ALTERNATIVES LIKE VOLUNTEERISM OR COMMUNITY SERVICE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO FINE FOR POLICE WORK. I'LL VOTE AGAINST THIS FOR THAT PRINCIPLE. I'M CERTAIN THIS WILL PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. TAD. >> THANK YOU. WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON IN ALBUQUERQUE. WITH APD, AND LOVE IT. HOW MANY ACCIDENTS ARE ON THE STREETS ? WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON ALCOHOL, DRUGS, EVEN TO HEAR SO MUCH ALCOHOL GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN AREA AND SO ON. WELL, THAT IS A PROBLEM. RIGHT NO -- ANYWAY. EXCUSE ME. ANYWAY. WELL, SO, I REALLY ENJOY IT. AND I -- LIKE I SAY, ACCIDENTS, DRUGS, MARIJUANA, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. -- THIS AREA. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE AN AMENDMENT? >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S AN AMENDMENT IN YOUR iPAD. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ON PAGE TWO, AFTER LINE TWO, ADD SECTION FOUR. INDITION TO REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION THREE THE ACCOUNTING DIVISION SHALL HAVE AUTOMATED AUDITED AT LEAST TWICE AS PART OF THE AGREED UPON PROCEDURES AUDIT WITH AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR. FROM APPROVED BY THE NEW MEXICO STATE AUDITOR. I MOVE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON WHY THIS AUDIT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND ALSO THE COST OF SUCH AN AUDIT. TWICE A YEAR SOUNDS EXPENSIVE TO ME. I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK JUST THE NATURE OF THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM, THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISES THAT WERE MADE AS FAR AS THE REVENUE THAT IT WILL BRING ABOUT AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST. SO, I THINK SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT AND GETTING AHEAD OF IT. AND THERE'S MANY ISSUES WITH IT. BEFORE WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE ISSUES AND BE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES AND BE ABLE TO PUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY IN THERE A WHOLE YEAR WOULD GO BEFORE THAT HAD HAPPEN. THIS ADDS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THAT. AND ADDS EXTRA RECORDING TO GIVE IT THE KIND OF OVERSIGHT THAT IT NEEDS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, IS ANYONE GOING TO PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF COST? >>COUN. LEWIS: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ADDITIONAL COST? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE FIELD OF DOING THIS. LAST TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING IN THE FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET THIS. BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT ONE SPECIFIC FUND FOR A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF CRITERIA. AS OPPOSED FOR THE AUDIT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. IT WOULD BE A NOMINAL FEE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THAT WAS HELPFUL. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE -- OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THAT THIS AUDIT WILL HAPPEN TWICE IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT AFTER THE FACT BASED ON THE RESULTS FROM THE AUDIT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES ONCE MORE. I MOVE WE MOVE WE SUSPEND THE RULES UNTIL 11:35. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. BACK ON THE BILL. THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. TO SAY THERE CAN BE TWO AUDITS IN THE FIRST YEAR. [ INAUDIBLE ]. THAT PASSES 5-3. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 7-2. AND WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT,IAGE -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING THAT THIS FUND IS BEING ESTABLISHED BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE MONEY THAT IS COMING IN. NOT TO PROFIT FOR THE POLICE OR TO SCREW OVER THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF YOUR PENNIES AND DOLLARS WHICH SHOULD MAKE THESE TWO AUDITS MUCH EASIER AS WE GO FORWARD. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S YOUR CLOSE. AND WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES ANDRIES YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.