[0:01] [Music] [0:08] [Music] [Music] [0:30] Melissa Kenninger: I call to order the Rosemount Planning Commission meeting for Monday March 17th please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all are there any additions to tonight's agenda? [1:08] Adam Kienberger: There are no additions Madam chair. [1:10] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you. Is there any input from the audience on items that are not on tonight's agenda? Seeing none we'll move forward to the consent agenda. The consent agenda this evening contains our minutes from our February 25th 2025 regular meeting. Um, I did have one one addition to the minutes. I did ask Liz to indicate the Commissioners that were absent from the meeting in the minutes, so she has made that correction to indicate that commissioner Buggi was absent that evening. Are there any other additions or corrections to the minutes? Seeing none I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. [1:38] Matt Buggi: Second. [1:39] Melissa Kenninger: It's been moved by commissioner Kenninger, seconded by commissioner Buggi. All those in favor please say I. [1:47] Commissioners: I. [1:48] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Motion carries. We have no old business this evening so we'll move on to our public hearing section. The first item on our public hearing section this evening is a request by Independent School District 196 for a site plan and building design review for a proposed expansion and renovation to the existing Rosemount High School and we'll turn it over to Julia. [2:03] Julia Hogan: All right. All right so a little bit of an overview of the requests today. So the applicant is requesting a site plan and building design review to renovate and expand the existing Rosemount High School. Uh, so the proposed project will includes include adding a new Activity Center, an expansion of the existing building that includes a three-story classroom addition for 300 student additional capacity. Uh, this project will also include a new parking lot area in front of the proposed activity center and renovations to the existing building that include improving the Food Service experience and enhancing accessibility to the library. As part of the school district referendum that passed in 2023, this included um adding improvements and expansions onto the existing schools in the district which included the Rosemount High School. So a little bit overview of um the site location: so the Rosemount High School is located west of South Robert Trail or Highway 3 and then also located east of Carol's Woods Park. It is on about 70 acres of land in a Zone public institutional. Uh, so currently the city does have one large school campus which incorporates the high school also the elementary school and middle school just directly south um and all all of this has been present on site since the 60s um obviously the Planning Commission is aware that a new elementary school has been approved um over off of Bon A and then also a new uh Rosemount Middle School off of County Road 42 and um Biscayne, but um these additions will be on to the existing high school. So a little overview of the site plan: so again the proposed additions that are planned for this site is a new Activity Center uh which you can kind of see in the site plan um that is located uh directly east off the existing building and we'll have access to the existing school from a Skyway. Um, a new parking lot area directly south of the proposed Activity Center which will includes 60 stalls uh which you can see in the site plan as well. A three story classroom editions that extends off of the library uh which is directly uh North West off of the existing school um and then also expanded circulation space around the existing Courtyards in the school which you can see those three areas that these um arrows are pointing to and then improvements to the student center and in kitchen area and then also improvements to accessibility in the library. Uh, these additions are subject to to the minimum lot requirements, setbacks, and sight and building design standards of the public institutional zoning district and they do meet all the setback requirements in additional um requirements of the PI zoning District. So little overview of the access and parking on site: so this main access to Rosemount High School comes from 142nd Street West which extends West off of South Robert Trail. Uh, there is a secondary access as well to the site from Chile Avenue uh which extends south from the site to adjacent residential neighborhoods and then connects with 145th Street West. Uh, the main parking lot areas on the site are located south of the bus and parent pickup drop off areas which is south of the um entrance into the high school and then access to those areas come from Chile Avenue and then also from 142nd Street West. Um, starting in the summer of 2025, MnDOT will be constructing a roundabout at the intersection of South Robert Trail in 142nd Street West which will also include realignment of bike and pedestrian crosswalk um access to the roundabout. This work should take place over the summer and is planned to be uh finished in the fall. Um, for parking: so the high school currently has a total of 948 stalls. The existing parking stall count exceeds the minimum requirement for off street parking standards in the PI zoning district for secondary schools. So the requirement for off street parking for secondary schools is one stall per 20 students. Currently there are 81 classrooms in the school in a total of 2,114 students that attend um so that would even out to about 100 87 stalls that are required on site which the 948 does exceed that 187 requirement. Uh, the proposed additions and expansions the high school U will require an additional 27 parking stalls are being Incorporated on site and the proposed new lot adds an additional 60 which brings the total uh parking count to 1,008 stalls which again is over that um minimum requirement which you can kind of see broken down in this these tables at the bottom of the screen. Uh, so little overview of the Landscaping um so the landscape uh plan that providing contains a total of 1,542 trees throughout the High School site. The minimum requirement for the site is 1,510 trees, so the total trees on site is meeting that minimum requirement. Uh, the submitted landscape plan also shows the breakdown of replacement tree calculations. So a total of 26 trees um needs to be removed from the site to allow for the construction of the additions and uh expansions. A total of uh 134 trees is planned to be replaced on site which meets that minimum requirement for tree replacement. Uh, the Landscaping um is planned to be a variety of trees and shrubs uh throughout the perimeter of the new additions and then also integrated around the new storm water management systems and the new parking lot as well which you can see a few of those landscape uh plants at the top of the screen as well. Um, you can see on the right hand side uh that is a new activity center and parking lot area and some of the new trees planted around that area and then on the left hand side you can see the trees in the um back area where the library and the new classroom additions will be located. So uh the site lighting: so the applicant did submit a site lighting exhibit of the new parking lot area and it does uh demonstrate compliance with the city's light intensity standards. So some of the new LED lighting that is planned around the perim perimeter of the new parking lot area and along the exterior of the building additions. Uh, the pool lighting um plan will be about 25 ft tall which means the um height requirement and then also includes motion sensors which dims down the lighting um to 15% when there is no movement or occupants are detected. Uh, there's also exterior doors at the new Activity Center uh will have either adjacent building mounted or canopy mounted lighting. And then I'll overview of the architectural elevations um so the building elevation plans that were submitted by the app can show materials that are complimentary to the existing High School building. Uh, so the proposed Activity Center is shown to be a mixture of architectural pre-cast um concrete and then brick and metal panels. Then the sky will be uh that will connect to the existing school will also have a mixture of a combination of glass and metal panels and the new classroom Addition will consist mostly of brick uh to be cohesive with that Northern exterior of the existing building and the colors and patterns that are proposed are supposed to be um cohesive with the existing building that is currently there. Then go through a couple of 3D renderings and also the proposed floor plans that are shown to be on the site. So you can see on the right hand side that Skyway system that will um add to the new Activity Center which has um multiple um gym spaces and then um other additions within the activity center and then you can see uh the three Courtyards in the middle of the existing school there will be additions onto those to add for more uh capacity throughout the hallways and then you can see that classroom addition um off of the library that will add that additional space for 300 additional students and then here's kind of a zoom in on those different areas. Uh, the on the main floor of the activity center and then also uh the different levels which Show additional classroom space um where that addition will be off of the library and here are a couple of views from the main building entrance into the site then also a view of the new Activity Center in the Skyway and then a view of the classroom additions from the backside if you're looking um towards the library and the new classroom Edition. Then a couple more renderings showing the entrance of the activity center and then also that view from 142nd Street when you're coming in off of Highway 3. And there's one recommendation in front of the commission today so there is a motion to approve the site plan and building design to allow Independent School District 196 to renovate and expand the existing Rosemount High School subject to conditions uh 1 through five. Um, I am here to answer any questions that the commission may have, but I do know that uh there are Representatives with the school district and then also the school district consultant as well. [10:29] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you Julia. Are there any comments or questions for staff at this time? [10:37] Aaron Beadner: Um, I guess couple um the parking I was a little surprised when I read that parking like exceeds the standard because it's already very tight there. Um, and they do like a a raffle and stuff for for parking spots so um I'm glad they're adding parking. Um, I'm curious if there's an expectation of an increase in the student body size more than would accommodate for 60 people because I think then the problem might be growing actually. [11:13] Julia Hogan: Yeah, I would recommend um asking that of the school district they might have additional um context to that but I know with um staff having conversations with the school district they did see that this 60 stall Edition would help with that and um they're not seeing um parking being so much of an issue for the site with what they currently have on there but again I would recommend speaking with the applicant on that for additional context. [11:39] Aaron Beadner: Okay the other question I had is um I know the roundabout and the design is not in the plan here but thinking about this um this development and what I see currently um there are some warnings like the drop off cars are backed up all the way down I think it's 142 as an entry drive and out on to three and so I'm curious if we know when that traffic circle built if they're going to do something to buffer or kind of set aside the the traffic if it does back up coming in that drive or if that problem should be addressed here too when when they're doing the the development. [12:21] Julia Hogan: I do know MnDOT is actively working with the city on Transportation needs. Um, I know that the school district as well as the city and MnDOT are actively having these conversations to U mitigate Transportation issues like such as traffic. Um, though that's not part of this request right now those conversations are ongoing and the city is actively working with the applicant and MnDOT to you know alleviate that um issue with um traffic on Highway 3. [12:47] Aaron Beadner: Okay I can do a follow with the applicat I'm curious if they I understand that and that would address it but um I'm curious if that is also going to solve for the traffic backup or if the traffic backup should be resolved with something here because it's a drop off Lane issue really it backs up all the way. [12:05] Julia Hogan: Yeah and I I do know back when the school district came forward to the city back in 2017 um when they did make adjustments to um you know their drop off and pickup and also Park uh parking lot issues with um the school buses that they were trying to alleviate some of that um traffic congestion that was on three. So now bus traffic is more veered towards Chile Avenue instead of Highway 3 so they did try to adjust some of those traffic concerns back when they were doing those changes to the school back in 2017 and I know that with this roundabout they're trying to also uh meet you know mitigate some of that existing traffic concerns as well. [13:42] Aaron Beadner: So the time the timing for the traffic circle is that going to coincide with this or how is that do we know yet? [13:49] Julia Hogan: I know that the school district is working with MnDOT to do their phasing plan cohesively with that again the school district will have a little more context to that but for instance in front of you you do that they do have that phasing plan um where they um have plans to do some of the work um along with the roundabout construction with that so. [14:14] Aaron Beadner: Okay thanks. [14:16] Michael Reed: I have a question did you say excuse me um it's one vehicle to 20 students is that the how how did someone come up with that that seems so low. [14:26] Julia Hogan: That was included in our new code. Our old code had um um different requirements which included additional parking with the stadium and such like that but when we were working on at updating our code we were going off of what other cities and other you know um counties and such were doing for schools for parking and that's just kind of how that came to be with the new um requirement for off street parking for secondary school. [14:52] Michael Reed: I'm just kind of in my head doing some math here with 2100 students let's say half those students are of drivable age 16 on up so that's a thousand let's just say and a thousand divided by 20 is 50. 50 cars for the high school kids seems very low so I was just trying trying to figure out how they came up with that and that was just part of our updating of our new code that was what they saw fit at least with um the city and also the consultant with teenagers. [15:22] Julia Hogan: MH as soon as they're 16 they want to be able to drive. [15:25] Michael Reed: I was just maybe times have changed and nobody drives but just trying to figure that out do you know how this would have like if you would have looked at the old code like would it have cleared? [15:35] Julia Hogan: Yeah so um also included in your agenda packet there was a memorandum that was drafted by the um applicants consultant that kind of showed what the old city code had compared to what the new city code had and the uh parking calculations um what's present on site still exceeded that um minimum requirement. So even if we did follow the old code for off street parking it would have been it would have met yes. [16:03] Melissa Kenninger: The old I I pulled that up actually I was going to point that out the old code required 861 stalls um and there's 984 so um so yeah I we were still they were still over what the old code had as well and I think I mean I I do agree there's a lot of kids that want to drive and I know that they they have permits parking permits and you have to buy them and it's a raffle and I think like there's a balance right you can't build parking so that every every student that may want to drive has has a parking spot. [16:40] Michael Reed: I mean I understand you know just seems low for an entire High School. [16:44] Melissa Kenninger: Yeah I think that um you know with them having obviously the parking that's used during the day during school isn't used at the same time for the stadium a lot sometimes there might be conflicting things but in the auditorium and and such so hopefully they can kind of cross share that parking. [17:15] Michael Reed: I think my question more was just how do they come up with one per 20 students. [17:21] Julia Hogan: Yeah and that was just more of how our consultant saw that across the board with different cities and such for at least off street parking requirements so. [17:34] Adam Kienberger: Yeah I mean that's Madam chair that's that's just kind of taking a look at what other cities have for their standards for high schools and then applying that to Rosemount. I mean there isn't a a magic number um it's kind of a best practice sort of situation but uh the city is aware that parking is is tight over there um our own Community Center uh has uh student parking occurring on that in often uh also in places that they're not allowed to do um and then uh the police department is aware parking happening in the neighborhoods as well on the public streets um so I don't know you know there isn't a really good solution to that um but this is a suburban community and parking is always something that we have to think about and and with the addition of 60 new parking stalls hopefully that will help. [18:27] Melissa Kenninger: I I think a better um part to the conversation would be what the um school district is seeing as far as um the student body uh population and if there's if there's a uh expectation for an increase or if this is simply just allowing for more space for the students that are there um with those classroom expansions. Any other questions or comments for staff? [18:57] Aaron Beadner: Yeah one question kind of a followup from commissioner Reed's question is and maybe this is more best Geared for representatives from the school district but I don't know if that the Fieldhouse entrance is going to be an access point for students because if people were to slow down and drop off their students It could only it could push back the people slowing down and then the backup onto uh Robert Trail is is my concern if the Fieldhouse is accessible in the morning and people are slowing down there and then backing up traffic even further but I think if if I'm looking at that map right. [19:40] Julia Hogan: Oh come back to the other one yeah they would have to come in and go down that road and into that parking lot to drop off. [19:45] Aaron Beadner: Yeah it's it's a driveway extension off of that I'm saying people could would just slow down stop on the road let their students out and then it bottlenecks everybody else behind them because they see an access point. [19:54] Matt Buggi: I mean I understand where you're I coming from on that but I mean there is a driveway extension off of that the main entrance to the school still extends off of 142nd I maybe touch base with the school district regarding that as well Madam chair commissioner Buggi I think certainly that would be a great question for the school district to provide some some feedback on and talk about their on-site operations on traffic management. [20:30] Melissa Kenninger: Okay any other comments or questions for staff at this time? Okay thank you Julia. This item is a public hearing item this evening so at this time we will invite anyone from the public that would like to speak on this item up to the podium stating your name and address for the record and um we did have a couple of questions and comments for the school district if they want to kick us off tonight we would um invite them forward. [21:03] Pete Roback: Hi good evening thanks for having us. My name is Pete Roback I'm the principal at Rosemount High School and appreciate all of these questions and something that we've given a lot of thought to as well and it's amazing how um this conversation is is all about parking which is really really important and of course uh uh the major thing we try to do at Rosemount High School is is have students learn and grow and uh and teach our appropriate curriculum every single day. [21:28] Melissa Kenninger: Mr Rober can I get you to State your address for the record quick? [21:31] Pete Roback: Oh sure yeah 12820 Biscayne Avenue West thank you. Yeah um and so but we know uh that there's a lot of energy that goes into parking and I should probably start by saying first and foremost rather than uh an obligation to fulfill a parking stall for every one of our student drivers we want to provide a safe and orderly experience for our teenage drivers that is the most important thing and so we consider it um um our responsibility to make sure that we're uh successfully parking 16 and 17 and 18-year-old drivers uh not only on our campus but as they leave our campus either out Chile or out on the highway 3 and with the addition of the roundabout we feel although it might not improve the flow of traffic right now our biggest concern is is uh making sure that students uh have a safe intersection and we feel good that roundabout will will achieve that um so that that's where we come at it from a school district. I should also mention that it wasn't uh that long ago actually pre-COVID where our enrollment was near 2500 students and we are successfully parking um students with an enrollment of close to 2200 students. District 196 um uh instituted some attendance boundary changes three years ago that brought our enrollment down dramatically. So we're down about 350 students from that high of nearly 2500 students and so believe in are not actually parking students now has become easier for us uh but I will certainly mention that there um there are more student drivers and uh although we do provide public transportation we still think a bus is a great option for students we know that there are needs for families and and and students that have co-curricular activities uh but we are able to successfully Park all seniors um we're able to do that every trimester um most if not every Junior and where our Lottery usually extends into our new 10th grade drivers and we have instituted a lottery system for 10th grade drivers so we feel pretty good with that kind of um kind of hierarchy of how our parking works and we certainly have enough stalls for our staff which is important as well so uh with that said I'm happy to entertain any other questions. [23:29] Melissa Kenninger: Can you there was the comment I know you mentioned that the roundabout is for you know is going to address some safety concerns but the flow so there's some concern about the flow not it's not directly related to this project obviously but just some concerns about the flow onto Highway 3 has there been discussions or anything on how to how to alleviate some of that? [23:55] Pete Roback: Yeah no it's a great question and we've expressed those concerns with MnDOT as well who were working closely with um and that will um um I think we we're going to learn a lot through the roundabout project but it's something we've stressed quite a bit I should mention someone had a question about maybe a backup coming down the hill on 142nd if students were exiting cars on the sidewalk to enter the new Activity Center um due to Safety and Security reasons we only have one door open in the morning and that's our main entrance um so we can have eyes on all students as they enter Rosemount High School in the morning and that will not change so it would not benefit drivers to or students to exit cars on 142nd because it'll be a long walk to the main entrance and that's not real inviting in January and February. [24:40] Aaron Beadner: Just take kind of follow up on that if I could I mean so you can probably Envision what I'm thinking of I so you're coming in in the mornings and traffic does get backed up right it's probably because it's a bottleneck on 142nd the drive they coming in and so um if we if that were to be widened and then cars could go into the parking lot so you almost have two lanes right cars could go smoothly into the parking lot and then the cars that are dropping off wouldn't get backed up with that has that been a consideration or should that be a consideration in the design here? [24:59] Pete Roback: Yeah it certainly has I'm not a a traffic design expert by by any stretch but uh I have seen uh different models uh right now I don't think we're different than most other Suburban high schools I think uh any school at the size of ours uh is going to have traffic congestion both uh at 7:30 in the morning and 2:30 in the afternoon so I don't think we're any different than any other school I think you still should look at options as you said uh to see how that might improve traffic flow uh but I know compared to even other to other high schools in our district uh we're relatively uh just normal uh with how things work in the morning and uh the afternoon and certainly a lot of high schools that are in a worse situation than than we are but something that's always on our radar and but we'll always start from a from a Safety and Security perspective first and foremost for our for our teenagers thanks. [25:52] Michael Reed: What is the targeted timeline for completion of this expansion? [25:57] Pete Roback: Um so hopefully be um doing some preliminary work and you'll start to see some or notice some um construction traffic and some trucks entering our campus the end of May or beginning of June um and all said and done two and a half to three years before all things are said and done. [26:15] Michael Reed: So the roundabout will be fully in place before then then? [26:18] Pete Roback: Yeah I should mention roundabout is scheduled to start June 9th so after our last day of school and we are crossing our fingers and working with MnDOT that that roundabout will be constructed and completed by the first day of school September. [26:35] Matt Buggi: Can you tell me uh maybe just from a design standpoint why you guys decided on like a standalone with a Skyway versus maybe just an expansion of the existing building? [26:48] Pete Roback: Yeah it's a it's a great question it's it's one of the first questions I have uh as principal. I was really hoping just from uh uh student um kind of uh traffic from one area of the building to the other and not to mention we only have 5 minutes passing time and students need to hurry to get from class to class and that that can be pretty long way walk and so ideally I I went into this thinking that maybe that would be a joint uh but we ran into and certainly my counterparts from W can answer this better than I can uh some under um kind of under the surface issues that just could not be avoided uh with some Mains that are running through there that we were not able to excavate down so we ended up having to go up and over that service road. [27:31] Melissa Kenninger: Any other questions for the applicant? Thank you we may have some after the rest of the public comment as well thank you. [27:42] Pete Roback: Thank you. [27:43] Todd France: How you doing good evening. I'm Todd France and I own South Metro Auto Brokers and I've owned it for 36 years and I've operated for 36 years. Um, first of all the I'm getting a lot more traffic now. [27:52] Melissa Kenninger: Sir can you state your address for the record as well? [27:55] Todd France: 13942 South Robert Trail. Thank you. There the uh traffic coming out of the community center it seems like it's students but I'm not sure exactly but it's gotten super intense over the last couple of years and now you can expect to wait at my driveway to get on to Highway 3. I've already seen several accidents in front of the school just in the last year and I guess I'm curious I I didn't get any notification about a roundabout so I don't know anything about that but um I know that I was talking about uh selling my car a lot to a apartment developer last year and I've had several other people that are talking to me right now and I I just wonder um it just seems like there's a lot of traffic in that spot and I'm wondering if there's a bigger uh thought here as to I don't know it this seems to me you're going to be increasing more traffic and more traffic on Highway 3 but that would be my concern okay cuz right now if you if you come out of my car lot you'll see that there's traffic like crazy at uh just about any time of the day but at for sure at 2:30 thank you. [29:28] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you. We will take all the public comments and then after the public hearing we'll have staff address comments and questions as we can. [29:35] Benson: Hi my name is Benson 1438 burgundy Avenue um and I'm the president of the Glenn Rose C or Condominiums right across the street so my concern I'm also with the traffic um my son actually goes to Rosemount High School too so I am a parent of a student um I am very concerned about having another 60 parking stop uh um parking spots at the school uh because to his point Point like from about 7 in the morning till 8:00 in the morning it's hard to even take a leftand turn or a right hand turn um especially with a lot of students parking at the community center too because that whole leftand Lane for all the the users or the um 10th graders going into that parking lot is still is backed up too so I'm trying to understand how with a roundabout you're going to have people pulling into that take a left hand turn into Community um Center also and how that's going to like back up into the roundabout which is going to make it even more difficult for any of us to ever take a left-hand turn right we always have to take a right-hand turn um so that's my biggest concern is adding more 60 more cars in there compared to what it already is and knowing what that backup is like every single day um and even in the afternoons starting about 2:00 or 2:30 maybe till about 3:15 you basically can't get out of your parking lot going left or right when we come out of the driveway so I'm right on 140th so thank you. [31:18] Kathy Tnot: Hi my name is Kathy Tnot um I live at 3581 143rd Street West um so I've lived there for 28 years years um I've had four children go to Rosemount high school and my youngest David hi Mr Roback colover yeah um by the way the bushes along the Boulevard on 142nd they need a little work okay um walk my dog in the neighborhood and have for most of that time two dogs it's okay uh here's my concern: the timeline that you're all giving um with the construction starting May June this year um where's that construction crew going to park um and also how are they getting to the site because Chile Avenue is bad right now um so I've lived there long enough that we did have kids students sorry parking on our street for many years um and it didn't really bother me until it got bad the kids were like leaving trash on our Lawns and parking on the grass and that kind of thing and a few of the neighbors complained and so they took the parking away in the in the residential area. Um, it's just the fact that they're so it it's not just the kids it's not just the parents and it's not just the staff everybody's in a hurry to get to school and to get wherever it is that they want to go at between 7 and 8 and noonish too the lunch crowd is a real angry Bunch um and then after school they're all in a hurry they don't stop at stop signs they speed through our neighborhoods to try to beat the stop sign on Chile I've asked for traffic you know monitors to be installed and that kind of thing and I haven't gotten much help from the city so I apologize if I seem a little miffed um but my thing is is that if it's going to continue and it's going to grow that's awesome but I also would like to have some consideration for the neighborhood that has to to live next to the high school and we have asked for the traffic to be monitored and I've noticed that there's been some traffic monitors installed um on our residential streets and I want to know is that for speeding is it for parking um what are you guys looking for and number two are you considering opening up the neighborhood again for parking because if you are you might have a hard sell on that one okay thank you. [35:05] Cindy Gibson: Hey everybody I'm Cindy Gibson I live at uh 3520 143rd Street West in Rosemount C neighbor and I've lived there for the 30 years and I've had two kids go through the Rosemount um uh schools as well elementary middle and high school and I loved Rosemount High School I love that's are very good and I'm excited to see the expansion but I have the same concerns um with as Kathy um as you come down Chile into the high school and pass through there's one stop sign going down the hill virtually 90% of the traffic never stops during these times of coming and going in the morning they might roll through but they never stop. Uh, the other thing is the backup from the intersection of Chile in 143rd Street during the school time um entrances can be past 145th all the way down towards County Road 42 so the backup is real on Chile as well as and I'm sure on Highway 3 I don't see that from of course my house but the backup down Chile during the times of coming and going from the uh high school as well um so my concern is especially if the roundabout doesn't get finished on time you know the C traffic is getting diverted over to Chile to come in until the roundabout would be done so let's hope it's done before school starts otherwise everything will be coming down Chile and that will be a total nightmare and as far as parking on the residential streets again I experience the same thing I didn't mind the extra parking of the kids and then walking down to the high school and and I was not one of the neighbors that complained I didn't seem to care it didn't bother me other than there's a few of them that likes to go a little bit over the speed limit down the residential areas. Um, so my concern is the traffic backup on that street um as well as Highway 3 so there is considerations on both sides on the East and the west west end so those are my concerns of that I'm excited for the expansion of the high school that's great I love it so thank you. [37:16] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience would like to speak on this item this evening? Um, I think we did have a couple of questions that would be directed towards the school district so I don't know principal Roback if you want to come up and answer them or another representative but one question I had is the 60 stalls that you're adding for the activity center will those be used for student parking during the day? Is that a plan to to make those available for students? And then also where the construction crews are going to park and what the um site access is that they're going to use. [37:46] Pete Roback: Um yeah great questions and I'd be happy to answer those um so a bit of this depends on the timing of the roundabout and certainly hoping that uh that will be done by the first day of school that is the plan that's what MnDOT has assured us and so the timing of this will be the staging of the the trucks will then be using the the new roundabout and we'll stage in our where the activity center basically where the parking lot will go that that will be the staging of all of the heavy equipment uh trucks and the traffic uh will be done or will be accomplished through the new roundabout hopefully avoiding Chile Avenue is is the plan and um because the the first when the project starts the end of May or beginning of June that is just some surveying work putting up uh your construction fences and so a lot of that heavy construction stuff won't happen until after the roundabout is completed okay. [38:43] Melissa Kenninger: Okay and then the the new 60 stalls at the activity center will those be used for student parking? [38:50] Pete Roback: Yeah we're still trying to identify exactly how to use those 60 spaces it would seem like an easy thing to do is just provide more um student parking um but we know that those spaces uh will just be used um during the school day you know there's a really different function with how our parking lot is used uh from 7:30 to 2:20 and then how it's used in the evening and on weekends so we see really more of that parking lot being used when there's heavy activity center use which is not during the school day um and so we're trying to decide what to do with those 60 spaces and figure out how it will have the least amount of impact with incoming traffic in the morning and outgoing traffic in the afternoon. [39:27] Melissa Kenninger: Right because obviously if we already have traffic concerns on backups adding 60 more cars as. [39:31] Pete Roback: Yeah and so part of it we'll be learning how the roundabout um the impact that it has on Flow and so rather than us just deciding we know exactly what we're going to do with those 60 spaces I think there's going to be a period of learning too and there may have to be some shifting on how we we use that space and based on the. [39:46] Melissa Kenninger: The timeline you'll have a good year of the roundabout before those parking are available anyways. [39:52] Pete Roback: Yeah a year if not two years before we'd even have access to them it's a good point okay thank you. [40:02] Aaron Beadner: Were there any other questions that Commissioners had for the applicant? I just had one more so I I guess looking holistically between the high school elementary school and then you know the former Middle School like has there been consideration about potentially adding like a third Access Point Road in or out of the high school I'm not sure what the plans are for the middle school at this point but. [40:19] Pete Roback: Yeah um no there has not been discussion more so from an engineering perspective and cost perspective I think we've heard all sorts of ideas on how to increase parking spaces as well and everything from parking ramps to to to you name it but there is an option of once it's decided from a school district perspective what will happen with the old Rosemount Middle School um I know there's been some conversation about uh potentially extra parking available at that location as well but that's yet to be determined on how that space is going to be used and I do really appreciate the community members um um kind of feelings about on street parking and just you know from a school district perspective we hope we do not return to on street parking as well thank you. [41:06] Michael Reed: Thank you. I had a question and I'm not sure if this is for for yourself or our staff but when they install a roundabout typically the road closes is that correct? So when that Road closes school activities still happen um things still happen all during summer I need to go up to get to point A to B myself as a resident whether school affiliated or not if the if that intersection closes and the school activi still then then yeah I do see where the residents are going to see that traffic come up chil or wherever so can anybody tell me if the roundabout intersection is going to be closed during that time because they usually close the the road. [41:48] Pete Roback: It it is uh and it's specifically designed in the summer uh when we don't have that Rush of 2400 people 2500 people entering our build. [41:55] Michael Reed: I'm just wondering where that diversion or where that detour route might so volume will be a lot less but during those months of um June July and and into August we'll have to reroute traffic or MnDOT the city of Rosemount through Chile Avenue that'll be the one entrance that will be open to Rosemount High School okay and so there'll be trucks like pre-cast concrete and stuff that will have to go through Chile Avenue. [42:25] Pete Roback: No I com on that earlier uh again some of the pre-work that's going to be done up until the time the roundabout is done not involve large construction trucks and a lot of dirt you know moving once the roundabout is done the heavy trucks will come in they'll be able to use the new roundabout not chil Avenue. [42:38] Melissa Kenninger: Okay it was grading or surveying and um fencing and things like that yeah kind of prepping for construction during the uh this upcoming summer. Any other questions or comments for the applicant? Thank you. [42:52] Pete Roback: Thank you. [42:53] Melissa Kenninger: I will do a last call for any one that wants to make comments on this item. Seeing none I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. [43:08] Matt Buggi: Second. [43:09] Melissa Kenninger: It's been moved by commissioner Kenninger, second and by commissioner Reid to close the public hearing. All those in favor please say I. [43:21] Commissioners: I. [43:22] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Public hearing is now closed. So Julia I don't know um it between you and and the other City staff this item before us this evening is well there's an impact with the 60 additional parking slots that could potentially increase some traffic and more cars to the site during the day other than that it's it's more about their expansion plans but we heard a lot of concerns this evening about traffic and the backups and speed limits and things on the residential streets what are some like is there thoughts is there conversations that um staff has had on any of that and where we what we can provide residents for some direction on those? [44:03] Adam Kienberger: Yeah Madam chair we can offer maybe a couple of points on that so you're correct in what you're taking a look at here is the site plan for the school expansion and what we heard a lot of the comments on tonight are existing operations traffic circulation traffic management how that would be adapted or changed with with during the expansion with the roundabout. There's obviously a lot of moving Parts going on on here and um of of course it's not a simple let's just construct it in a in a vacuum and you know there's there's a lot of pieces that that have to to take place there. Over the years there's been a lot of discussion about where students park whether it's at the RCC through a permitting system with in partnership with the city, on street um off of Chile um removing those ability to park on the on street and I I know um principal had kind of addressed that as well as some of the the residents there um as well as internal to the city we do have our own Safety Committee which does take a look at on on goinging issues throughout the community in conjunction with our Police Department, Public Works. There's always constant dialogue between the city and the school in terms of what's what's working and things that can be can be tweaked. Um, also recognizing that um South Robert Trail is state highway and it's a MnDOT project. While the city has some influence on that in terms of staging ultimately operations and management of that roadway is is through the state but we have a partnership with them but we don't necessarily control what takes place there other than helping to manage some of the construction stage in which I think we we talked about in detail tonight. So maybe those are a couple things I could offer up at at this point but just ongoing monitoring between our police and Public Safety officials ongoing Communications with the the school as well as the school district future plans with the existing Rosemount Middle as the new Rosemount Middle is being constructed um there's certainly opportunities for evaluation and re-evaluation as this project um evolves. [45:49] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you. It would be interesting and of course I don't I don't want any children any children any any kid drivers you know to get stopped you know on the on the roads for not stopping at a stop sign you know and get a ticket just I don't want to just start start that but you know maybe there's some patrol that's out there and maybe some communication to the student drivers that they are going to start patrolling it and you know I I shouldn't say that I don't want them to get a ticket I would like to give them a heads up that hey you might have been you might have been sailing through this stop sign before but we're going to start start patrolling that you know you need to start stopping um watching tra watching speed limits things like that like some some pre-warnings. I don't know if the if there's anything that could be done there with the police department to kind of do some monitoring of that and and help um it sounds like that would be good and then do you know I don't know that you'll know this but there was the comment about monitors that were installed um do you know what those are looking for? There was a question on what those are looking for. [47:04] Adam Kienberger: I don't specifically know what those specific monitors that the resident was referencing would be for. [47:11] Melissa Kenninger: Okay is there someone that they can follow up with the city to understand more about them as that Public Works? [47:16] Adam Kienberger: Yep they could certainly call our public works or Police Department in between the two they would be able to answer okay. [47:23] Melissa Kenninger: Okay so maybe following up with the public works or the police department on the monitors would be an option to understand what they're there for um any other comments or questions that others have? [47:48] Aaron Beadner: I'll just say I mean I I'm really excited about the plan I mean it's it's probably overdue and and it's I like the way the building's designed it looks nice I am concerned about uh not taking this opportunity to maybe address the the bottleneck it's I know it's usually just in the mornings coming in but if we're putting a roundabout there um I'm concerned about that so I I think it's not going to prevent me from approving this I recommend we approve it uh but I do think it's something that we'll have to keep an eye on because it's probably a going concern. [48:14] Melissa Kenninger: I do want to jump back to Adam there was some comments more from the um the traffic on Highway 3 from residents and and the um Auto Broker owner in terms of traffic flow and safety and who if they have questions on the roundabout it sounds you know the roundabout has been in the works for a long time but because it's a state project it's the communication's a little bit different um on that who can they reach out to to understand what that flow is going to look like for them during construction and such? [48:42] Adam Kienberger: I know MnDOT has a project website and I I don't I'm not saying just just go to the State website it's not our problem because that's that's not the case necessarily either I mean we're always happy to have conversations with any Resident or business owner that's concerned or just wants more information or a better understanding from a technical perspective of what that's looking like on there so I I would start with seeing if if there's information available on the MnDOT project website for Highway 3. Um our Public Works and Engineering staff are always available for taking calls or emails or questions on that and they can certainly have any conversations on a one-on-one basis okay. [49:15] Melissa Kenninger: So it would be the public works department to follow up with with questions in regards to that project and the traffic as well other than also the State website okay thank you. Any other comments from Commissioners? [49:33] Michael Reed: Overall I'm I'm glad to see us investing in schools and um I know uh having a great school makes Rosemount attractive for uh new new people coming here and so I'm I'm glad to see this project and investment. [49:46] Matt Buggi: I just happen to be looking at the the project website on the MnDOT site and that roundabout they're planning on that taking May through September to construct three months June through September so how does that affect summer construction when the trucks are coming supposed to be coming in summer construction for for the Fieldhouse I so what I heard principal Roback state was that this summer they are doing prep work fencing surveying and those things and the trucks would not be coming in until after the roundabout is done in the fall. [50:18] Michael Reed: Okay and what I heard what I heard was that it was coming in okay all right thanks for the clarification okay. [50:24] Melissa Kenninger: So I think the project is going to take two and a half to three years to complete the expansion piece of so um it will be you know the expansion won't be done um just the summer understood yep okay any other comments or questions? [50:41] Aaron Beadner: I'll make a motion if everybody's ready. [50:43] Melissa Kenninger: I just want to real quick before you do that I I am also excited about this project I do want to just thank the residents and the business owners that came tonight to speak about traffic we we hear your concerns this um um this area has always been you know a challenging one with the traffic and the congestion and so um City staff has been working with with the state and with the school district to continue to improve and alleviate that um please do keep communication work you know call the public works department share that I I have not heard any discussion on opening up off street parking again so that that's uh that has not been a discussion um but please continue to do that this project is more about the expansion tonight but we do hear your concerns on the traffic and the congestion and so please as you see stuff continue to communicate with them um the public works department the police department um as well. Go ahead. [51:48] Aaron Beadner: Motion to approve the site plan and building designed to allow Independent School District 196 to renovate and expand the existing Rosemount high school subject to conditions 1 through five. [51:57] Michael Reed: Second. [51:58] Melissa Kenninger: Second it's been moved by commissioner Beadner seconded by commissioner Reed. All those in favor please say I. [52:05] Commissioners: I. [52:06] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Motion carries our decision on this item this evening is a final decision it will not go forward to city council unless it is unless our decision this evening is appealed. Um, anyone that wishes to appeal our decision this evening can do so by reaching out to City staff within 10 10 days of tonight. With that we'll move on to our second public hearing item this evening a request by M OM and Appo development for approval of a site plan review and conditional use permit and I will turn it over to Anthony. [52:38] Anthony Nemcek: Thank you madam chair. Uh, this uh item is related to a property um in the southern portion of the city on 158th Circle West uh which is in the Biscayne business park site itself is designated for business park development in the city's comprehensive land use plan and zoned B2 planned unit development or employment uh planned unit development. As I said it is part of the Biscayne business park that was approved in uh 2019. Uh, the subject property is comprised of three Parcels uh 2510, 2520, and 2530 158th Circle West. Uh, the applicant is proposing uh a major automotive repair shop uh with office space uh that use is a uh conditional use in the B2 employment zoning District. Uh, the uh definition in the code is before you on the screen there um essentially it is for the heavier type of repairs to vehicles um engine out type things radiators Transmissions uh as opposed to uh minor automotive repair uh which the code defines as uh for vehicles under 7,000 lbs uh and limited to uh services like tuneups Lube uh oil changes uh tires Etc. Uh, staff finds that the plan generally meets the requirements of the city code um and uh one thing to note and I will call it out a couple times in this presentation that uh because the applicant is going to be using three Parcels uh the way the site was uh configured with their storm water ponds they are proposing to uh reconstruct the storm water Pond uh into a shape that is more conducive for development. Uh, the site itself as I said is in the uh Southern portion of the city uh near the intersection of Biscayne Avenue and County Road 46. Uh, for a little context immediately east of the site is Dakota Aggregates mining operation. uh South is uh different uh industrial or light industrial businesses like Dakota unlimited fencing uh Fran's wall plant is within the vicinity as well as U-Pull-It parts and AAA Auto. Uh, further west of the site is Highway 3 uh where you can see the Home Depot facility in the in the Rosemount Business Park area. Zooming in a little bit more you can see the site uh in a little better context there. Uh, as I said this is part of the Biscayne business park uh which was platted with eight Parcels originally. Here's the existing survey showing the Topography of the site. Uh, I'm mainly showing this to uh uh um provide you a little bit of context for the existing ponding as you can see there's uh two ponds on site uh as well as a third over here on the West. Uh, these project into the main area of the subject property uh and like I said are not so conducive for uh development of the site. Uh, there's also some perimeter easements between the existing Parcels that would need to be vacated as part of the uh development. Uh, staff has prepared conditions um to be applied to uh the commission's recommendation uh this evening. The applicant has provided a site plan that uh as I said meets the standards for the zoning ordinance. The general layout shows the proposed building which would be uh an office area on the Eastern side of the building and on the western side of the building would be the service base for the uh repair shop. Uh, the applicant's business would be repairing uh semi-trucks and tractor trailers uh in larger service Bays. Uh, this would not be for passenger vehicles. As you can see the parking lot here uh allows for those uh trucks to be parked. Uh, there's a uh more traditional parking area on the Eastern side here that would be for uh employees and visitors to the site. So here's a table showing the zoning standards uh for the site um it does meet all the site setback requirements. Uh, it's also below the maximum lot coverage and it is a the building is above the minimum 10% uh for the B2 and I1 Zoning districts. Uh, the parking uh provided by the site plan exceeds that required by the code. Uh, a total of 79 spaces are required. The plan shows total um that's broken down by uh three different types: uh passenger automobile 42 spaces, uh tractor or bobtail at eight spaces, and then semi-trucks which would be the uh truck and trailer combos uh 52 spaces. So just to allow a little bit more um recollection here on on how that site is laid out and where those parking is provided. Also note that site access will be gained from two points: there's an existing shared driveway on the East, uh this will be the main entrance for uh passenger vehicles and employees. Uh, there's a wider driveway up here although still within uh the maximum driveway width of the zoning ordinance this will be where the trucks enter and the wider uh configuration allows for better maneuvering. Site plan also includes a a trash enclosure location um in this area which is is in conformance with the zoning ordinance. Uh, although the applicant did not provide a um elevations showing the the actual plans for that uh trash enclosure. Uh, that is included as a condition of approval that those be submitted prior to a building permit. The applicant provided a landscape plan uh showing uh it meets the city code requirements for trees and Foundation plantings. Uh, 75 trees are required. Uh, that is based off of a minimum of One Tree per 3,000 square ft of um Site Area. Uh, and then Foundation plantings are one shrub per 10 linear feet of building perimeter. Uh, the trees are planted uh on the Southern Property Line uh as well as the northern uh property lines up here. Um, there's some trees planted in the uh parking lot uh as well as Shrubbery within that parking lot area uh throughout. Uh, some additional Foundation plantings on the Eastern Frontage of the building and then along the north side and in the northwest corner. Um, there are approximately 6,500 ft of landscaped area in and around the parking lots. Uh, that is above the minimum 5% provided or required by the zoning code. The applicant did provide color elevations uh that show the buildings will uh be in conformance with the uh standards for building materials and massing. Uh, the buildings are 24 ft in height well below the 50ft maximum of the B2 zoning District. Um, also uh note that the materials will be pre-cast concrete panels uh with two different colors. Uh, the vertical elements would be uh breaking the building up into segments of 28 ft uh which is is better than the uh 35-ft minimum uh that the zoning code requires for uh buildings in the B2 District. Um, some awnings are shown over the entrances and uh some windows in the office areas of the building. The applicant provided a sight lighting plan as well um there will be pole mounted lights at 25 ft and wallmounted lights at 19 ft um the maximum height is 30 so they're within that uh maximum and then um not shown here but included with the commission's packet is a photometric study that shows that uh the lights will be below the maximum one Lumen at the property boundaries. So in addition to the site plan review being requested as I said a major automotive repair is a conditional use in the B2 zoning District. All uh conditional uses must must meet seven General conditions which are listed uh for you here um in the packet. Uh, in the staff report the there are findings uh for each of these conditions but they're generally um to ensure that there are no negative impacts on adjacent properties uh for some of these reasons uh listed here before you uh and that the use is harmonious with the provisions of the city code. But in addition to these seven standards there's 12 that must be met by um major automotive repair businesses. Again those were um listed in their entirety as well as staff's findings for each condition uh but I did want to call out three of them that would be most uh relevant to the use as it is being proposed uh namely that uh all of the repair work uh must occur within the building. Uh, the site plan does show that those uh service Bays would accommodate uh the vehicles and uh uh the that's where the repair would occur. Outdoor storage of Parts um while allowed in the B2 District uh and must conform to those standards um are not being proposed with this uh site plan review or conditional use permit. And then also that uh junk or unlicensed Vehicles so these are really wrecked cars that are not Road worthy uh those have to be stored inside um this is something that can't be really shown on the site plan uh but uh one thing about conditional use permits is that if it is found by the city uh that conditions are not being met that conditional use permit can be revoked. Obviously that's not going to be the very first step for us but it does allow the city some enforcement uh ability with regards to a conditional use permit. Um, so as I said the remaining uh conditions that are specific to this use have been listed uh in the staff Report with um staff's findings uh for each of those um as I said there are a couple issues that uh do need to be addressed. Uh, the trash enclosure final plans must be submitted. Uh, also the single the three Parcels must be combined into a single one. Uh, that's something that because it's all part of the same plat the county will do uh without City action required um but the vacation of the existing perimeter and ponding easement easements U must occur prior to development of the site before we can issue any building permits and uh vacation of easements occurs at the city council uh with a public hearing. Uh, so that's something that'll be taking place as this continues to move forward through the approval process um and then any new easements uh would be have to be dedicated although uh looking at the existing easements it simply could be just a vacation of a lot of the excess easement and leaving only that which would Encompass the U new ponding on site. Um, there was an Engineers memo that was attached as well with some comments. Uh, that is something that would have to the um conformance with those requirements uh would be required also as a condition of approval. I do apologize to the commission I did not have a slide with the recommended actions and the uh um uh recommended conditions uh so I do hope you have the um uh staff report before you but um there are two uh uh actions staff is recommending: uh motion to approve the site plan uh subject to conditions and then a motion to recommend the city council approve the conditional use permit uh which would be in its at its April meeting. So I'm happy to answer any questions about this uh project uh or defer to the applicant as well. [1:04:41] Melissa Kenninger: Thank you Anthony. I appreciate the color rendering so thank you. Are there any comments or questions for City staff at this time? [1:04:47] Aaron Beadner: So this would fully complete then the buildout of that whole street right? [1:04:54] Anthony Nemcek: Madam chair commissioner Beadner, there'd still be one parcel left. Um, the commission did review KDPS proposal for uh some warehouse storage unit or uh Warehouse office units on these three so there would still be one remaining parcel. [1:05:14] Aaron Beadner: And at this point not seeing any need to like do anything about the intersection between that street and Biscayne right? [1:05:22] Anthony Nemcek: No traffic doesn't correct demand anything yeah. Yep and uh also note that this is 158th Circle West is a private road um that was uh constructed with the Biscayne business park. Um, the two deviations from the code uh that were included with that plan unit development agreement related to um having the uh buildings have access to to a public road via a private road and then allow shared driveways as well. Um, I know that wasn't your question but there's a little bit more context on that. [1:06:04] Melissa Kenninger: Any other comments or questions for staff at this time? Okay thank you Anthony. This item is a public hearing item so at this time we will open up the public hearing. Anyone in the audience would like to speak may do so at this time coming to the podium stating your name and address for the record. [1:06:21] Jim Connelly: Good evening. Uh, Jim Connelly with Appo development uh 21476 Granada Avenue Lakeville. Uh, here with Nadia Rider uh designer with Appo just here to answer any questions you might have as as you consider our item thank you. [1:06:40] Melissa Kenninger: Okay thank you. Does anyone have any questions for the applicant? Seeing seeing no other comments in the audience I will make a motion to close the public hearing. [1:06:53] Matt Buggi: Second. [1:06:54] Melissa Kenninger: It's been moved by commissioner Kenninger, seconded by commissioner Buggi. All those in favor please say I. [1:07:01] Commissioners: I. [1:07:02] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Public hearing is now closed. I have the motion up. You got the motion up? You're ready to go? [1:07:08] Brenda Rivera: Okay I am. This is I think this is really exciting to kind of get that section that area built out this is an exciting addition to our city so thank you for bringing it and I I personally look forward to having this a part of our city. All right. Motion to approve the site plan for an automotive repair business at 2510, 2520, and 2530 158th Circle West subject to the following conditions 1 through 9. [1:07:31] Michael Reed: Second. [1:07:33] Melissa Kenninger: Second it's been moved by commissioner Rivera seconded by commissioner Reed. All those in favor please say I. [1:07:41] Commissioners: I. [1:07:42] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Motion carries before commissioner Rivera continues that motion Anthony correct me if I'm wrong here but that motion is a final decision tonight. It does not move forward to city council unless um it is appealed within 10 days from this evening. The second motion this evening will move forward to City Council and I will turn it back to commissioner Rivera. [1:08:00] Brenda Rivera: Motion to recommend the city council approve a conditional use permit for an automotive repair major use at 2510, 2520, and 2530 158th Circle West. [1:08:12] Aaron Beadner: Second. [1:08:13] Melissa Kenninger: Second it's moved by commissioner Rivera seconded by commissioner Beadner. All those in favor please say I. [1:08:19] Commissioners: I. [1:08:20] Melissa Kenninger: Opposed? Motion carries. That um that item as well as I believe the easement component would will move forward to the April 15th city council meeting. Okay that concludes our public hearing section this evening. Is there any new business? [1:08:42] Adam Kienberger: There's not no. [1:08:44] Melissa Kenninger: Okay any discussion from staff? [1:08:46] Adam Kienberger: No okay. [1:08:47] Melissa Kenninger: Um, real quick just a couple of a couple of items. Our next meeting is April 22nd. It is we're back to Fourth Tuesdays. Um, April 22nd, May 27th and June 24th. We are looking forward to having our newly appointed Commissioners at our April 22nd meeting um as that process is still underway we don't have decisions on that yet so um we will have new um we've got a couple spots open for new Commissioners so we hope to have them joining us in April. I will be absent at the April meeting Liz Adam I think you guys already have that down. Um, if anyone else is going to be absent for any of the upcoming meetings please let Liz and um staff know right away. And then real quick before we adjourn I just we don't have commissioner Whitman with us this evening he has um resigned from the commission following um in this last month so I just want to thank him even though he's not here I want to thank him for his service and his time um with our Planning Commission and we wish him the best. [1:09:44] Adam Kienberger: Madam Madam chair I'm sorry to interrupt to uh one note uh we do have our Rosemount business expo coming up on April 5th that's a Saturday um okay sorry so didn't to steal Curt's Thunder. [1:10:02] Melissa Kenninger: Nope good add. So Rosemount business expo April 5th and that is at the high school this year okay. So at Rosemount High School a new location I believe yes. Okay anything else? Anyone have any other items? Nope. Okay with that I will adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned. [1:10:24] [Music]