. >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS JULY 24TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. SOME ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE STUDY ITEMS WHERE WE WILL NOT TAKE FORMAL ACTION. OTHER ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE WE WILL TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON ITEMS WHERE WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE PUBLIC IS ENCOURAGED TO TESTIFY. YOU CAN DO THAT HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. YOU CAN ALSO DO SO ONLINE BY FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. ON SOME ITEMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY WHILE ON OTHER ITEMS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTS IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY ON THE FIRST THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE ACTING IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SIX PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE THIS EVENING IN THE CHAMBERS RIGHT NOW SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AS WE BEGIN THIS EVENING. I'LL ASK EVERYONE IN THE CHAMBERS IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL OKAY. THIS EVENING WE HAVE A BIT OF AN UNUSUAL TWIST TO OUR AGENDA DUE TO SOME LEGAL NOTICE THINGS THAT WERE NOT PUBLISHED IN OUR LOCAL NEWSPAPER. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. JOHNSON TO GIVE US MORE OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU. CHAIR COOKED IN AS NOTED IN THE PACKET THE PUBLICATION TO THE SUN CURRENT NEWSPAPER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAN ON JULY THE 10TH. UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT DONE SO SUCCESSFULLY. SO THE NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED AS OF ACTUALLY TODAY AND SO FOR THIS REASON WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT ALL THREE ITEMS TONIGHT THAT YOU KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN THAT YOU CONTINUE IT TO THE AUGUST 7TH AND DELAY ANY FORMAL ACTION ON THESE ITEMS. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOTICES DID GO OUT ON TIME ADVERTISING THIS HEARING DATE. SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HONOR THAT BUT DO NEED TO FOLLOW OUR CITY CODE PROCEDURES AND STATE LAW AROUND PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IN REAL TERMS IS WE ARE GOING TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO TESTIFY. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE NOTE OF YOUR COMMENTS HERE AND WE'LL KEEP THOSE. THIS WILL COME BACK. THE FIRST ALL THREE OF THE FIRST THREE ITEMS ARE GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 7TH. WE WILL HAVE MAJOR NOTES. WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK. IF YOU'D LIKE TO TESTIFY A SECOND TIME ON AUGUST 7TH, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, I WOULD PERSONALLY SAY THAT'S NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE YOUR COMMENTS HERE. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND SEE US AGAIN ON AUGUST 7TH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO BUT THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY. WHAT THAT DOES MEAN THOUGH, AS MR. JOHNSON STATED IS WE WON'T BE TAKING FORMAL ACTION ON THESE ITEMS AS IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED TO US BY OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT WE CONTINUE THIS FORWARD TO ENSURE WE'RE COMPLIANCE ON ALL THINGS LEGAL. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON THAT. I WILL EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT PUBLIC HEARINGS AS I'M SURE A FEW OF YOU HERE THIS EVENING ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING TYPE OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I'M GOING TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. BUT I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKS. AS SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE NEW TO OUR OPERATIONS HERE SO ON EACH ITEMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL START WITH A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. A MEMBER OF OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE APPLICATION BEFORE US ONCE THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF WAS WE'RE FINISHED WITH OUR QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THEIR ITEM AFTER THE APPLICANT HAS HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. I WILL THEN AS THE CHAIR OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU ALL WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME IF YOU WISH. WE DO ASK THAT YOU SIGN IN. THERE IS A SIGN IN SHEET ON THE PODIUM UP HERE. AND IS THERE ONE GOING AROUND THE ROOM? MR. JOHNSON CHAIR COOKED AND WE DO HAVE STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS A CLIPBOARD AND IF YOU WANT TO TESTIFY THERE'S PLANNER DILLON PALMER JUST STOOD UP THERE WAVE YOUR HAND AGAIN THERE DILLON IF YOU WANT TO EXPEDITE THE SIGN UP PROCESS HE CAN SIGN YOU UP VIA THAT CLIPBOARD IN ADVANCE OF YOUR TESTIMONY. IF YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE THINGS MOVE A LITTLE FASTER. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON THE ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO REINFORCE BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR BUSINESS THIS EVENING IS THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS LIMITED. WE HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITIES AND WE CAN ONLY TAKE ACTION ON THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE US. AND SO THERE MAY BE PUBLIC TESTIMONY WE RECEIVED THIS EVENING ABOUT THINGS THAT ALTHOUGH WE MAY AGREE WITH, WE MAY DISAGREE WITH IF IT'S NOT A PART OF THE APPLICATION WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT ITEM. AND SO IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE BEING IGNORED. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HEAR YOU. WE MAY JUST HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITIES ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE AS YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO FOCUS IT ON THE THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AUGUST 7TH NOT THIS EVENING BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HEAR YOU IT'S THAT WE HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY IS BASED ON CITY CODE THAT ARE ALLOWED TO US OKAY THAT'S ENOUGH OF THE FRONT END. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS A APPLICATION FROM ST MARK'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AT 8630 XERXES AVENUE PLANNER MS. LIZ O'DAY HAS THE STAFF REPORT FOR US. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSION MEMBERS SO AS THE CHAIR STATED ITEM ONE ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THIS IS FOR ST MARK'S CHURCH SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH SURROUNDING LAND USES AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF MY SCREEN IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THE EXISTING ZONING FOR 8630 XERXES AVENUE IS ALSO R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEIR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS QUASI PUBLIC AND THEY'RE HOPING TO CHANGE IT FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE EXISTING USE IS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AND THEN JUST TO NOTE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ST MARK'S EVANGELICAL UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ST MARK'S WOULD INTEND TO SELL THE LAND TO BLOOMINGTON HRA AND THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY TO FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT AND SUBDIVISION INTO 13 LOTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF MY SCREEN IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SKETCH SHOWING HOW THOSE LOTS WOULD BE LAID OUT. BUT IF THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, A SUBSEQUENT TYPE TYPE THREE PLAT APPLICATION WOULD FOLLOW AND A PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE REQUIRED AS WELL AS A REVIEW BY CITY COUNCIL. >> SO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS FROM DIRECTLY FROM THE COMP PLAN. THIS DESIGNATION ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UP TO 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ALSO ALLOWS FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE FOR UNITS IN ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY MATCH KIND OF THE DENSITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. IT IS ALSO KIND OF AROUND THE FOUR UNITS AN ACRE DENSITY SO THERE ARE NO FINDINGS FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. INSTEAD WE KIND OF REVIEW THEM WITH COMPLIANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STRATEGIES AND GOALS. SO I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THEM. GOAL NUMBER ONE IS TO ENCOURAGE AN EFFICIENT AND DESIRABLE ARRANGEMENT AND DISTRIBUTION OF LAND USES AND THIS AMENDMENT ENCOURAGES GROWTH IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED IN A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT'S ALSO SERVED BY XERXES AVENUE SOUTH WHICH IS A MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD. SO IT IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY GROWTH AND THEN STRATEGY 1.4 GUIDES THE CITY TO MITIGATE LAND USE CONFLICTS WHEN CONSIDERING REQUESTS TO CHANGE ZONING OR GUIDE PLAN DESIGNATIONS. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE GUIDANCE SO THERE ARE NO LAND USE CONFLICTS . GOAL NUMBER TWO IS TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT IMPROVES LOCAL CONDITIONS, GUIDES THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT REDEVELOPMENT SITES ARE SUITABLE FOR PROPOSED LAND USE AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL GUIDANCE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. ALSO GOAL NUMBER TWO IS PROVIDE A RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES THE STRATEGY 2.1 GUIDES THE CITY TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES AND ALSO STRATEGY 2.2 GUIDES THE CITY TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW HOUSING. AS YOU ALL KNOW YOU'VE APPROVED MULTIPLE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE YEARS AND NOT A TON OF SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO THIS PROVIDES KIND OF AN EXPANSION OF HOUSING CHOICE. GOAL NUMBER THREE IS TO MAINTAIN CURRENT DATA ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLY. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO HOUSEHOLDS AT 80% AMI AND WOULD ALSO PROVIDE OWNER OCCUPIED OPPORTUNITIES WHICH FURTHERS INVESTMENT VITALITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN THE BURLINGTON HRA WOULD PARTNER WITH EMERGING DEVELOPERS PARTICULARLY FROM THOSE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES BY PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. XERXES AVENUE SOUTH AS A MINOR COLLECTOR ROADWAY AND IT HAS ABOUT 1300 TO 1400 DAILY TRIPS AT A HIGH LEVEL THERE'S ADEQUATE SANITARY SEWER AND WATER CAPACITY SERVING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND OF COURSE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND OTHER DETAILS WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF ANY FUTURE PLAT APPLICATION. AND THEN JUST TO NOTE ABOUT NEARBY PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS, THERE'S WASHBURN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LINCOLN PARK, UPPER AND LOWER, PENN LAKE PARK AND GIRARD LAKE PARK NEARBY. AND AS MR. JOHNSON MENTIONED EARLIER, DUE TO THE NOTICING ERROR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING BE OPENED AND CONTINUED TO THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING. THIS IS KIND OF THE EXTENT OF MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND THEN I'LL GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING. THANK YOU MR. DAY. PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MARISSA THANK YOU CHAIR. WHAT WOULD IS THERE ANY MORE DETAILS ON STRATEGY STRATEGY 3.6 AND HOW THAT COULD LOOK LIKE? CHAIR COMMISSIONER YOU SAY SO STRATEGY 3.6 SAYS FOSTERING AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. I MEAN YEAH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND DEVELOPMENT WOULD CERTAINLY FOSTER AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT 80% AMI ALSO IT WOULD FURTHER THIS GOAL BY PARTNERING WITH EMERGING DEVELOPERS WHICH IS PROVIDES KIND OF AN UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH KIND OF NEWER DEVELOPMENTS THAT DON'T DEVELOPERS THAT DON'T HAVE KIND OF THE EXPERIENCE. YEAH AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A COOL OPPORTUNITY TO IN MY MIND TO KIND OF CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. OH THAT IS REALLY COOL. THANK YOU. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU MR. DE IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK ? GOOD EVENING MR. PALERMO THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONERS I AM MICHAEL PALERMO. I'M WITH HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS FROM THE CHURCH HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE INTENDING TO SPEAK OR NOT AS WELL SO KIND OF A JOINT APPLICATION AT THIS STAGE BUT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERVIEW AND DETAIL ESPECIALLY ON THAT COMMENT THERE AND 3.6 SO THE BLOOMINGTON HRA WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM CALLED THE BLOOMINGTON AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAM. WE HAVE $3.2 MILLION FROM THE MINNESOTA HOUSING IMPACT FUND TO DEVELOP 27 SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY OR OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS. SO THIS PROJECT WE SAW COME UP THIS OPPORTUNITY, THIS FOUR ACRE SITE YOU DON'T SEE THIS KIND OF SCALE IN BLOOMINGTON TYPICALLY WHERE THIS PROPERTY WAS FOR SALE FROM THE CHURCH THEY WERE STRUGGLING TO FIND ANOTHER INSTITUTION TO PURCHASE IT. THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS AVAILABLE FOR US TO KIND OF COME IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY DOESN'T SIT VACANT FOR A WHILE AND MEETS OUR GOALS OF THIS PROGRAM OF DEVELOPING THESE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS AS THEY DISCUSS THESE ARE AFFORDABLE TO 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME SO THAT'S ABOUT 105,000 ANNUAL INCOME FOR THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THIS. SO THERE IS A RESTRICTION BUT YOU KNOW PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT MEDIAN INCOME IS THAT AVERAGE INCOME FOR THE AREA. RIGHT. SO IT IS CONSISTENT KIND OF WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HOPE TO DO A CODE COMPLYING. WE WILL BE DOING A CODE COMPLYING DEVELOPMENT HERE SO YOU'LL SEE A PLAT APPLICATION COME. BUT WE WANTED TO GET THIS DONE SOONER THAN LATER AS THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES TO THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE IN A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD RIGHT NOW WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT REMAINS FEASIBLE AND WITHOUT THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT YOU KNOW THE ZONING IS CORRECT BUT THE LAND USE IS NOT WITHOUT THAT STEP. YOU KNOW THAT'S A CRITICAL MASS TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. SO GETTING TO THE EMERGING DEVELOPER PIECE OF THIS AS THE CITY WE ARE LOOKING AS THE HRA WE ARE LOOKING TO RE PLAT THE LAND OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE LAND USE GUIDANCE. WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD, ADD THE STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN. WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE INCREASED STORMWATER FACILITIES HERE BECAUSE THE SITE DEVELOPED IN THE 50S AND DOESN'T HAVE ADEQUATE STORMWATER SERVICE FREIGHT SEWER SERVICE NOW SO THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE SITE BY VIRTUE OF REDEVELOPING IT BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO MAKE THESE SITES AVAILABLE FOR EMERGING DEVELOPERS. WE HAVE A GRANT FROM THE METROPOLE HOUSING COUNCIL TO HELP US PROVIDE MENTORSHIP AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE SO WE WANT TO HAVE THESE SITES KIND OF READY TO GO THE LIGHTS READY TO GO AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH A DEVELOPER WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE DESIGNING THE HOMES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, DOING THE MARKETING KIND OF ALL THE THINGS THAT GO WITH DEVELOPMENT KNOWING THAT IT'S REALLY HARD TO GO FROM CONCEPT OR LEARNING TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE WANT TO KIND OF MAKE IT ALMOST COOKIE CUTTER AND AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE ON THE FRONT END SO THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND GET THAT EXPERIENCE SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DEVELOP IN BLOOMINGTON THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR CODES AND WHEN SINGLE SITES THAT POP UP FROM HERE AND THERE THEY HAVE THOSE SKILLS AND KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AND CAN HELP FACILITATE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THAT'S KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN LIKE WE SAID WITH THE PLAT COMING SOON HERE AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. PALERMO BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS I DID WANT TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE CHURCH WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. SURE YOU COULD STEP FORWARD AND LET US KNOW YOUR NAME PLEASE. SURE . SORRY. I'M SORRY. THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. BUT GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CINDY RUSSELL. I AM A MEMBER OF ST MARK'S UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST AND AM THE PRESIDENT OF OUR CHURCH COUNCIL THIS YEAR I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THE PAST 16 SOME YEARS THE CHURCH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 69 YEARS WE DID NOT WANT TO GET TO THIS PLACE WHERE WE NEEDED TO SELL THE CHURCH CLOSE IT OUT AND CREATE A DIFFERENT USE FOR THE LAND. BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE ONE A USE TO US THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AND IT MEETS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. IF IT'S OUR VALUES WE HAVE VOTED ON IT AS A CONGREGATION AND WE HAD 100% ACCEPTANCE OF IT. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WHAT MORE I MIGHT NEED TO SAY ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MS. RUSSELL ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER THE HRA OR MS.. RUSSELL? COMMISSIONER MUSSER. MR. PALERMO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED. ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS REGARDING LIMITATIONS ON RENTAL OR AFFORDABILITY FOR THE NON-OWNER OCCUPIED PORTION ? THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER MANSOUR THEY WILL ALL BE OWNER OCCUPIED SO THERE WON'T BE ANY RENTAL UNITS AS PART OF THIS SO A DEVELOPER WILL DEVELOP AND THEN THEY WILL SELL IT FOR YOU KNOW A PRICE THAT NETS MATCHES ABOUT 300,000 IS WHAT THEY'LL LIKELY BE SOLD FOR. YOU KNOW TIME MIGHT IT INCH THAT UP A LITTLE BIT BUT THEY WILL ALL BE OWNER OCCUPIED. THERE WON'T BE ANY RENTAL UNITS HERE SO EACH SIDE OF EACH FAMILY SO IT WILL BE A TWO FAMILY HOME BUT THEY'LL BOTH BE OWNER OCCUPIED SO NOT A SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE THE OWNER ON ONE SIDE RENTING THE OTHER BUT FOR US TO FULFILL THE GRANT WE NEED 27 UNIT OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS SO YEAH THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU BOTH. OKAY I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BEFORE I CALL UP FOLKS TO TESTIFY I DID JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS A LITTLE BIT FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEIR INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ONE OF THE SUBSEQUENT ITEMS, WE'LL HAVE YOU HOLD OFF ON THAT AND THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN RIGHT NOW IS ONLY FOR ST MARK'S CHURCH. I DO WANT TO SORT OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT HERE SO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS GOING TO BE JUST THAT IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND NOT A PUBLIC QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD AND WE DO THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THAT WE'RE NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS BEFORE THE NEXT PERSON GETS AN OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THE AND AS IT TIES INTO IT IS ALSO TIME WE'VE GOT A QUITE A FEW FOLKS HERE WHO WE THINK ARE PROBABLY GOING TO TESTIFY THIS EVENING AND TO KEEP THINGS MOVING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TIRING FOLKS OUT OR GETTING PEOPLE RESTLESS BEFORE THEY GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK. WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS MOVING. AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO DO SO BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER IT RIGHT AWAY. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION YOU CAN DIRECT THAT TO ME. THE CHAIR WE'RE MAKING NOTES UP HERE FOR EVERY PERSON WHO COMES UP TO TESTIFY WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF YOUR QUESTION AND AFTER EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WE WILL THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE ALL THE QUESTIONS WE'VE HEARD AND IF WE WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE ON ONLINE HERE WHO CAN SPEAK TO THOSE ITEMS, WE WILL DO SO. SO AGAIN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT IF I DON'T ANSWER THEM RIGHT AWAY IT'S NOT THAT I DIDN'T HEAR YOU IT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT THEM AND ANSWER THEM ALL AT THE END. AT THE CHOOSING OF E PLANNING COMMISSION ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS CAN BE DIRECTED TO ME. THE CHAIR SO NOT TO STAFF OR TO OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONERS YOU CAN DIRECT THOSE ALL TO ME. WE ARE GOING TO PUT A SHOT CLOCK UP ON THE WALL HERE. IT'S GOING TO BE THREE MINUTES THIS EVENING. THAT AGAIN IS JUST TO KEEP THINGS MOVING AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE ELSE GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK. IF THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE AND ONCE EVERYONE HAS FINISHED WITH THEIR TESTIMONY YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AGAIN FOR ANOTHER THREE MINUTE SESSION OF TESTIMONY. YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD NOT REFERENCE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT TIMES THESE PUBLIC TESTIMONIES CAN GET A BIT ON THE EMOTIONAL SIDE AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED AS THE APPLICATION AT HAND AND NOT TOWARDS PREVIOUS COMMENTS OR OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE TESTIFIED THAT KEEPS US ALL HAPPY AND FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS HERE IN THE CITY OF WELLINGTON I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THERE IS NO APPLAUSE OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO ASK AND IT'S ABOUT BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS HERE I WOULD LIKE OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONIES IF WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER'S EATING, LET'S MAKE IT RESPECTFUL. LET'S PUT ON A GOOD FACE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TONIGHT AND THAT IF WE DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER WE CAN DO SO IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER AND THAT BLOOMINGTON IS A CITY WHERE WE CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO TESTIFY. I DO WELCOME YOU TO DO SO. PLEASE COME ON UP. SIGN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY AND WE WELCOME YOUR TESTIMONY . GOOD EVENING. AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR US PLEASE. MY NAME IS IAN ROCK. WELCOME. SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I GUESS CONCERNS AND ONE OF THEM IS RELATED TO THE PRICE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BUILD THESE EXISTING UNITS. I WAS TO A MEETING EARLIER AT THE CHURCH AND I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED THAT THEY WOULD COST PROBABLY 5 TO $600,000 TO BUILD PLUS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE UTILITIES AND THE STORM WATER AND SUCH THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN. I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S A GOOD STEWARDSHIP USE OF THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE GRANTS AND PEOPLE FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND SUCH WHEN THE VALUE OF THE HOUSES IN THE AREA IS TYPICALLY MUCH LESS THAN THAT. SO WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO BUY SOME EXISTING PROPERTIES AND MAKE BETTER USE OF THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GRANTS AND SUCH? I LIVE CLOSE TO THIS AREA AND THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT JUST SOLD FOR $340,000 TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM US SO COULD IT USE SOME YOU KNOW, A REDO OF THE KITCHEN MAYBE SO EVEN IF YOU PUT YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 50,000 INTO THE KITCHEN YOU'RE STILL AT 400,000 WHICH SEEMS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING IN EACH OF THESE HOUSES. SO I AGREE THAT THERE'S A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BLOOMINGTON. THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSPENDING FOR EACH OF THE UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. HI, I'M DANNY AND DIVINO CAULEY. I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE ALL HOUSING CREATED IS GOOD HOUSING BECAUSE IT RELIEVES PRESSURE ON THE OTHER HOUSING IN OUR CITY AND PRESERVES DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING NATURALLY OCCURRING, DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BECAUSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF MANY APARTMENTS AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE ALREADY IS AFFORDABLE ON INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHERE THEY'LL PROBABLY ALSO WANT TO BE IN A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WE HEAR PEOPLE SAY OH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GREAT. WE JUST DON'T WANT APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THIS IS THIS IS THAT IT'S A GREAT USE OF THAT SPACE. IT CREATES A KIND OF HOUSING THAT VERY RARELY IS AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE AND IT ADDS TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES AND LIVING INSIDE OUR CITY WHILE USING THAT HOUSING PRESSURE THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN TRYING TO BUY OR FIND HOMES IN BLOOMINGTON. SO WHEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ZONING, HOW WE WERE GOING TO ZONE AND HOW REZONING WORKED AND AND YOU KNOW DECREASING THE SIZE OF LOTS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS CREATING THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THESE LOTS, NOT BUILDING 600,000 $700,000 HOMES AND THIS GRANT ALLOWS FOR THAT. WE DON'T USUALLY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A $500,000 HOME, SELL IT FOR $300,000 TO A FAMILY THAT COULD THEN LIVE IN THAT HOUSE SUSTAINABLY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND PASS IT ON. SO THANK YOU TO THE HRA FOR DOING THIS WORK. SO MANY THANK YOU TO THE CHURCH I'VE WORKED ON A COMMUNITY GARDEN PLOT THERE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPACE AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC AND THIS IS REALLY I DON'T KNOW AS A CATHOLIC THIS IS JUST IT FEELS LIKE SUCH GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF OUR MONEY AND OF OUR TIME AND SUCH GOOD COMMUNITY INVESTMENT. SO I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THE CHURCH AND I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS WITH THE LAND ISN'T SOMETHING ELSE. THANKS. THANK YOU . MR. JOHNSON DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? THERE IS NO ONE ON LINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LAST CALL FOR FOLKS HERE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M JEFF SHOOK HEAD I I'M OPPOSED TO THE WAY THINGS ARE PRESENTED TONIGHT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY THE THE COST TO ME AS A TAXPAYER TO PROVIDE OF WHAT WHAT'S BEING CALLED AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE BEING TAXED KIND OF OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE SELLING A 300,000 A $500,000 HOUSE FOR 300, WHAT'S TO STOP THE RESIDENT FROM TURNING AROUND A PROFIT SELLING IT RIGHT AWAY? IS THERE ANY MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR LENGTH OF OWNERSHIP PRIOR TO RESALE? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU . IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM THIS EVENING ? VERY WELL. AS WE STATED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE THAT ON AUGUST 7TH BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION HAS OF STAFF BASED ON THE TESTIMONY YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING, MR. ISA THANK YOU, CHAIR. I THINK THE LENGTH OF OWNERSHIP QUESTION IS PRETTY PRETTY IMPORTANT. SO MR. PLAYER THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER YOU SAY THERE WILL BE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON THE PROPERTY THE EXACT LENGTH WE'RE STILL DETERMINING BUT IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 30 YEARS THAT FOR ANY FUTURE SALE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN INCOME QUALIFIED BUYER. SO THERE ARE MECHANISMS THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH. YOU KNOW THIS WILL BE A SEVERAL YEAR PROCESS THIS YEAR IS KIND OF GETTING THE SITE PREP NEXT YEAR START WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AS CONSTRUCTION STARTS AND OF 26 AND THE 27 SO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS WE'RE WORKING ON AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE DEVELOPMENT BUT THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR MECHANISM TO ENSURE AFFORDABILITY AND PREVENT THAT SCENARIO WHERE YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND SELL IT FOR A PROFIT. MR. ISA THANK YOU. CHAIR FOLLOW UP QUESTION SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPER IS PURELY MENTORSHIP MENTORSHIP IT SEEMS IF THEY'RE SELLING OR THE CITY IS SELLING AT A LOSS TECHNICALLY. CHAIR THE COMMISSIONER IS SAYING SO KIND OF HOW IT WORKS THE DEVELOPER WILL MAKE SOME MONEY OFF OF THIS BUT THERE'S YOU KNOW WHAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAKE RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE DOING THEIR TIME. THEY WILL NOT MAKE AS MUCH AS THEY TYPICALLY NORMALLY WOULD IN THE PRIVATE MARKET GOING AND THAT'S THE HOPE THAT THEY DO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY ARE OPERATING ON THEIR OWN AND YOU'RE RIGHT. SO PART OF THAT LOWER MONEY THAT THEY'LL MAKE OFF THE SALE OF THIS IS TO THE BENEFIT OF TO THEM IS THAT MENTORSHIP ASPECT TO IT BUT YEAH SO THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE VALUE GAP AND THERE IS A DISCREPANCY THERE BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, SO PART OF THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO THIS PROJECT WILL BE THE SALE OF THESE HOMES INTO IT. SO BEYOND THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES FROM STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS THAT WILL HELP FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND ERODE IN AND NEW STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU MR. PLAYER CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS VALUE GAP? AND I THINK THAT TIES INTO WELL MY QUESTION WAS AS WE HEARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS 300,000, 500,000 CAN YOU CLARIFY THOSE NUMBERS FOR US IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE COMMISSIONER COOKED IN COMMISSIONERS OR CHAIR COOKED IN COMMISSIONERS? >> SO SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT FIVE 600,000 TO DEVELOP THESE HOMES RIGHT? THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT WILL COST MAYBE SLIGHTLY MORE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE CONSTRUCTION PRICES ARE GOING TO LAND A YEAR FROM NOW BUT THAT INCLUDES BUILDING A HOME AND CONSTRUCTING A ROAD. THE ROAD IS EXPENSIVE SO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXPENSIVE MAKE STORM WATER ALL THOSE THINGS GO INTO DEVELOPMENT SO COSTS FIVE, SIX, 700,000 POTENTIALLY BUT WITHOUT ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE HOME YOU KNOW IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY NAIL DOWN WHAT THAT WILL BE. BUT ALL SAID AND DONE, THE HOMES WILL BE MODEST. THEY'LL MEET OUR CODE. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE THREE BEDROOM BUT THE DEVELOPER WILL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS OF WHAT THAT FINAL MODEL WILL LOOK LIKE. BUT THERE'LL BE A CODE COMPLIANT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SO THEY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTRAVAGANT EXTRAVAGANT HOMES. RIGHT. THEY WANT TO LIKE WE SAID, TRY AND MAKE SOME MONEY OFF OF THIS SO THEY WILL BE MORE MODEST SO THEY'LL BE VALUED SOMEWHERE PROBABLY IN THE 450,000 RANGE EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO COST ABOUT 600,000. SO YOU HAVE A VALUE GAP AND THEN WE HAVE AFFORDABILITY GAP WHERE THEN 450,000 IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO SOMEONE AT 80%. AMI SO WE'VE KIND OF GOT THESE TWO GAPS FOR FILLING TOGETHER AND THAT'S FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS GETS KIND OF FUN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. ISSA THANK YOU CHAIR THE LAST QUESTION I PROMISE. SO IS THERE LIKE ANY PRELIMINARY STUDIES ON HOW IT WOULD AT THE TIME OF SALE AFFECT HOME VALUES RIGHT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU KNOW GOES BY COMPS, THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, I'M ALL FOR HOMEOWNER AFFORDABILITY IF I'M JUST THINKING LIKE NEIGHBORS MIGHT SHARE COMMISSIONER YOU SAY SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ASSESSING DEPARTMENT AND JUST GIVING BROAD EXAMPLE OF WHAT WILL BE DEVELOPED THERE. THEY THEY BELIEVE THAT THESE WILL BE ASSESSED AROUND OR VALUE ASSESSED AT ABOUT 450,000. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT VALUE IS COMING FROM FROM OUR ASSESSING DIVISION. SO THAT WILL KIND OF DICTATE THE TAXES THAT THESE WILL PAY ONCE THEY ARE SOLD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER WHITNEY THANK YOU. I'M JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LAST QUESTION. >> ANY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE ON THE EXISTING HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR VALUE? YEAH. CHAIR COMMISSIONER LONNIE, I DON'T HAVE EXACT STUDIES FOR YOU BUT JUST BY VIRTUE OF THEM BEING NEW OWNERSHIP AND VALUED HIGHER IT WILL LIKELY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT VALUE THAN WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY SO IT'LL PROBABLY NOT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. AND MR. JOHNSON, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR US THE APPLICATION BEFORE US JUST TO BRING US BACK ON BRAND HERE IS ONLY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THERE WILL BE A SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION FOR THE ACTUAL REPORTING AND DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? CHAIR COOKSON THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY'RE SEEKING TO GUIDE THIS SITE FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S THE FIRST NECESSARY STEP A SUBSEQUENT STEP THAT WOULD RELATE THAT RELATE TO LAND USE APPROVALS WOULD BE A TYPE THREE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT WHICH ALSO HAS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT. SO WE'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TIME TO DIVE DEEPER INTO SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF PIECES OF THE FUTURE APPLICATION. YOU WOULDN'T CHAIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR IN CASE PL 202500084I MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONED FORMAL ACTION ON THE APPLICATION UNTIL AUGUST 7TH UNTIL THE AUGUST 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN OF AUGUST 7TH 2025. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 7TH AND WE ANTICIPATE IT TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, IF THAT WAS THE ONLY ITEM YOU HEAR FOR THIS EVENING, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DEPART PARTIES BUT THERE'S LOTS OF FUN TO COME SO JUST STICK AROUND FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE. YEAH WITH THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. THE APPLICANT HERE IS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IS FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REZONING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND SOME PLANNING TO TAKE CARE OF MR. SAID SCENARIO YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT FOR US. THANK YOU CHAIR CUTTING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS GOOD EVENING TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I HAVEN'T MET YET. MY NAME IS MIKE SINCE I AM A PLANNING SUPERVISOR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM HERE AT THE CITY AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. I'LL PROBABLY JUST REFER TO IT AS THE COMMUNITY CENTER JUST FOR BREVITY. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT IS REQUIRED TO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE HEARING OKAY. AND THAT IS ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO FACILITATE ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE EVERYTHING CONSISTENT BETWEEN THE VARIOUS PROPERTIES . ANOTHER REZONING THERE WILL BE A REZONING WITH THIS PROJECT AS NEEDED. PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR WHICH IS REALLY JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING THE SITE PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AND PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS TYPE OF PLAN IS NOT ACTED ON BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT IT IS IT GOES DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL. NONETHELESS IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT IS AN IT IS AN ITEM AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTS AND THIS PARTICULAR TYPE GOES RIGHT TO COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS AT THE EXISTING COMMUNITY CENTER. CREEKSIDE. THIS IS ROTATED SO NORTH IS TO THE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE PENN AVENUE ON THE BOTTOM AND NEWTON AVENUE TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. SO THE SITE IS IS LOOKING ON THE CORNER OF PENN AVENUE AND WEST 98TH. SO TO SO TO OF OUR CLICK OR ARTERIAL STREETS TO THE EAST IS NEWTON AVENUE AND SO ONTO THE EAST SIDE OF NEWTON ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TO THE SOUTH IS PRESBYTERIAN HOMES. SO A MULTIFAMILY SENIOR DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH. JUST AN IMAGE OR JUST A STREET VIEW OF ROUGHLY THE INTERSECTION OF PENN AND 98. AND SO THE EXISTING CREEKSIDE CENTER IS ABOUT 25,000FT AND THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER IS ABOUT 106,000. SO OBVIOUSLY A MUCH LARGER FACILITY THAN WHAT'S THERE TODAY RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THE EXISTING CREEKSIDE CENTER IS GUIDED PUBLIC WHICH MAKES SENSE. IT'S A CITY FACILITY AND THE GUIDANCE REPRESENTS A PUBLIC FACILITY. THERE ARE TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT WOULD MAKE UP THIS FULL THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE AND THOSE ARE GUIDED FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND WE DON'T KNOW THE PRECISE HISTORY BUT I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THE PRESBYTERIAN HOME SITE IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT MORE MULTIFAMILY WILL OCCUR TO THE NORTH OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S GUIDED AND ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY. BUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT AND WITHIN THAT PUBLIC LAND USE DESIGNATION. PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS TO RE GUIDE TWO OF THOSE PROPERTIES FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO PUBLIC. AND ALONG WITH THAT RE DESIGNATION WE DO HAVE A REZONING THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND THAT'S TO REZONE THOSE TWO PROPERTIES FROM OUR M 24 WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TO R. AND IT'S INTERESTING BUT A LOT OF OUR INSTITUTIONAL USES ARE ON PROPERTY THAT ZONED R ONE. SO IT'S A VERY COMMON OCCURRENCE TO HAVE INSTITUTIONS OR PLACES OF ASSEMBLY ON R ONE PROPERTIES. SO I'LL TOUCH ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR PDP AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR FDP. YOU CAN THINK OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPER PLAN AS THE FULL BUILDOUT OF A SITE. SO THERE COULD BE MULTI MULTIPLE PHASES. IN THIS CASE THERE THERE IS ONE SMALL FUTURE PHASE ENVISIONED AND THAT WOULD BE A GYM EXPANSION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT GYM EXPANSION IN THE YELLOW BOX. ON THE LEFT IS THE FULL SITE ON THE RIGHT IS A SLIGHTLY ZOOMED IN BUT THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT IS ENVISIONED IN TERMS OF FUTURE EXPANSION IS JUST FROM GOING TO TWO BASKETBALL COURTS TO THREE BASKETBALL COURTS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PROPOSED AS THE MAIN PHASE ONE. SO NOT GOING ON TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THESE THESE ARE THE PLANS THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE THERE'S A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT THE DESIGN TEAM TRY TO INCORPORATE LIKE A WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE BUILDING OUTDOOR. IN ADDITION THERE'S A TRACK INDOOR I'LL GET I'LL GET TO A FLOOR PLAN IN A MOMENT BUT THE THE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED IS MOSTLY CODE COMPLIANT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STANDARDS RELATED TO SETBACKS FLOOR AREA RATIOS AND THIS PROPOSAL MEETS ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS AND I CAN GET INTO SOME LEVEL OF DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE. SO THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH DETAIL TO REALLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON HERE BUT BASICALLY THIS IS ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMING THAT'S WITHIN THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER. YOU HAVE MULTI-USE SPACES FOR GATHERINGS WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WEDDING RECEPTIONS OR BANQUETS. THAT'S ACCOMMODATED. A FUTURE CAFE IS PROPOSED TO THE CITY PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE RELOCATED INTO THIS IN THIS FACILITY. SO A LARGE PROPORTION OF THIS SPACE IS OFFICE SPACE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL. OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION COMPONENT HERE WE HAVE GYM SPACES, MULTI-USE GYM SPACES, NATATORIUM FOR A LAP POOL AND KIDS FLOOR. AND THEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR SO THIS IS A22 FLOOR BUILDING. YOU HAVE INDOOR TRACK, SOME FITNESS ROOMS, MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS AND CARDIO EQUIPMENT. SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS ,A LOT OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES FOR FOLKS. NOW THIS IS JUST THE PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND I'LL TOUCH ON ONE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD NEED AND THAT'S RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY MINOR BUT IT IS IT IS FLEXIBILITY THAT'S NEEDED AND THAT RELATES TO LANDSCAPED PARKING ISLANDS. SO WE'RE GETTING REALLY INTO THE WEEDS AND THE ZONING CODE BUT WE REQUIRE PARKING ISLANDS IN CERTAIN DISTANCE OR INTERVALS AND IN THIS CASE NORMALLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PARKING ISLAND AND EITHER SIDE OF THAT CENTRAL SPINE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT ACTUALLY IS PROPOSED TO BE A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEATURE. SO THEY'D BE DEPRESSED AND THEN WOULD BE LINED WITH TREES. SO THE THE IDEA BEHIND THE PARKING ISLANDS IS TO YOU KNOW ,PROVIDE SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE SHADE YOU KNOW THE JUST THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF TREES AND TO PROVIDE SOME GREEN SPACE AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS BEING MET. SO THIS IS JUST ME TRYING TO ADD SOME COLOR TO WHAT THAT GREEN SPINE WOULD BE. I THINK I COUNTED THE TREES CORRECTLY BUT ULTIMATELY THIS THIS REALLY MEETS THE INTENT OF WHY WE HAVE PARKING ISLANDS AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY NICE INTERESTING FEATURE THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT AS WELL AS A ESTHETIC BENEFIT. NOW WE DID GET SOME COMMENTARY BEFORE THE MEETING AND YOU KNOW, NATURALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING BECAUSE COMMUNITY CENTERS CAN GET BUSY AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THERE BY BY CAR. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE MINDFUL OF FROM THE BEGINNING. SO WE HAVE CITY CODE WHICH IS A YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE RATIOS BASED MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY DIVVIES UP ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, ALL THO DIFFERENT USES AND APPLIES A PARKING REQUIREMENT TO EACH ONE OF THOSE USES. WHEN YOU ADD WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP, IT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER AND WE'RE MINDFUL THAT THAT NUMBER IS HIGHER THAN IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE. SO WE DO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE CAN UNDERTAKE A PARKING STUDY AND THAT'S COMPLETED BY A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER, THE SAME ENGINEER THAT DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN A MINUTE AND THEY THEY LOOK AT OUR CITY CODE, OTHER SOURCES OF INFORMATION LIKE A PARKING GENERATION MANUAL AND THEN THEY ALSO STUDY OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS WHAT IS THEIR DEMAND AND THEN THEY MODEL WHAT THE PARKING WOULD BE NEEDED AT THIS NEW CENTER AND THEY CONCLUDED THAT AT PEAK THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 239 STALLS WOULD BE NECESSARY. ACTUALLY USED AND YOU KNOW, DURING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WE ASKED DO YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE PROPOSED PARKING STALLS? AND THEY SAID NO, WE THINK WE WANT TO HAVE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONVENIENT PARKING FOR FOLKS. SO 353 PAKISTANS ARE PROPOSED AND SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE FEEL IS GOING TO BE NEEDED AND WHAT'S PROPOSED. SO FROM AN ADEQUACY ADEQUACY PERSPECTIVE WE DO FEEL IT'S MORE THAN ADEQUATE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. JUST TO SHARE A FEW RENDERINGS THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE SO THE SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATION THE TREES IN THESE IMAGES ARE ALWAYS 30 YEARS OLD SO WHEN THEY GET PLANTED THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER BUT THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL. SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VERY, VERY PROMINENT ENTRANCE, LOTS OF GLASS, YOU KNOW, VERY ATTRACTIVE ENTRANCE. YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AS RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF EXTERIOR MATERIALS FOR THESE TYPES OF USES COMPARED TO LIKE A LIKE A OFFICE TOWER BUT NONETHELESS WAS PROPOSED AS A MIX OF GLASS WHICH YOU CAN SEE AS WELL AS PRECAST CONCRETE AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE PRECAST IS INTEGRALLY COLORED BECAUSE ONCE IF YOU HAVE TO PAINT IT THEN YOU HAVE TO REPAINT IT AND REPAINT IT AND REPAINT IT AND WE WANT TO AVOID THAT MAINTENANCE. SO FROM A MATERIALS PERSPECTIVE IT IS CALLED COMPLYING. I SUSPECT THAT THE DESIGNERS THEY'LL FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT SORT OF FINISH OR TEXTURE THAT THAT MATERIAL HAS. THIS IS THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU RECALL FROM A PREVIOUS IMAGE THERE WAS THAT FUTURE GYM EXPANSION THAT'S REALLY IN THE FOREGROUND HERE. AND IN THE MEANTIME I THINK IT'S JUST AN OPEN, OPEN GREEN SPACE AND OF COURSE IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TIME OF DAY FOR THAT SAME AREA. SO AGAIN, I WANT TO MENTION THE PLANT THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING WILL NOT WE WILL NOT BE ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE IS MADE UP OF THREE PARCELS AND WITH THIS APPLICATION ALL THROUGH THIS PERSON WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE LARGER PARCEL. SO JUST REALLY A CLEANUP ITEM THAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE PROPERTY LINES GOING EVERY WHICH WAY. SO I'M GOING TO SHIFT WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT GEARS TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S YEAH GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS KELSEY LARSON. I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH BOLTON AND MAKE COMPLETED THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT CITY CODE. THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALSO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO FIRST I WANT TO POINT OUT THE CITY CODE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS WORD FOR WORD BUT AS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN THIS IS DIRECTLY STATED FROM THE CITY CODE AND REALLY WHAT IT GETS THAT IS IF THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROPOSING TO BE AN EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING OR A NEW USE THAT WOULD CREATE TRAFFIC LEVELS ABOVE THRESHOLDS WHICH I WILL GET TO IN A MINUTE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET. THAT DEVELOPMENT IS PROHIBITED UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS CAN BE REASONABLY MITIGATED TO LEVELS CONSISTENT WITH RESIDENTIAL LIVABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN AND MOTORIST SAFETY. SO I WILL GET INTO WHAT THOSE LEVELS ARE BEFORE I GET TO THAT I DO WANT TO JUST GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON TRAFFIC LEVELS THAT WE CAN EXPECT FOR DIFFERENT ROADWAY TYPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WHAT THIS GRAPHIC OR THIS CHART IS REALLY SHOWING ARE A DIFFERENT ROADWAY TYPES THE TYPICAL NUMBER OF TRIPS OR VEHICLES PER DAY THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON EACH ROADWAY TYPE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE YOU CAN FIND SIMILAR LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. ONE THING TO CLARIFY TO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VEHICLE TRIPS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLES GOING IN EACH DIRECTION ON A ROADWAY SO NOT JUST ONE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC BUT THE SUM OF BOTH DIRECTIONS OF TRAFFIC TO GET ANYONE PASSING THROUGH A CERTAIN POINT ON A ROADWAY. I, I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION I WANT TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE BUT I DO WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO A FEW OF THEM. SO AT THE TOP WE HAVE LOCAL STREETS AND LOCAL COLLECTORS THOSE ARE SERVING OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES. WE CAN SEE TYPICAL TRIP LEVELS FOR LOCAL STREETS BEING ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 300 TO 1500 VEHICLES PER DAY AND LOCAL COLLECTORS AND THE THE ROADWAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING MOST IS THE NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH, THE RESIDENTIAL ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A LOCAL STREET OR A LOCAL COLLECTOR BASED ON THE USES SURROUNDING THE ROADWAY. YOU CAN SEE JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ROADWAY TYPES, VOLUMES SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE. I'LL POINT OUT JUST A FEW OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT AREA WOULD BE A PRINCIPAL R ARTERIAL CARRYING MUCH HIGHER VOLUMES OF 20,000 TO 40,000 VEHICLES PER DAY. YOU KNOW OUR FREEWAYS AND EXPRESSWAYS CARRYING THE MOST TRAFFIC 60,000 UP TO 200,000 VEHICLES PER DAY THAT BE THE I-35 INTERSTATE 494 GOING BACK TO NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD AS I SAID, CONSIDER THAT TO BE A LOCAL COLLECTOR EXPECTED RANGE OF VOLUME FOR THAT ROADWAY WOULD BE 1000 TO 2000 VEHICLES PER DAY. SO NOW GETTING BACK TO THE CITY CODE, I TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT VOLUME THRESHOLDS THAT THIS PARTICULAR CODE STATEMENT LOOKS AT IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS BEING ADDED AND IF IT SATISFIES THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS TO CONSIDER. SO THIS FIRST THRESHOLD LOOKS AT IF MORE THAN 300 VEHICLES PER DAY ARE ADDED TO A RESIDENTIAL STREET AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK LOOKING AT THE GRAPHIC SHOWN HERE WE HAVE NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH JUST TO THE SOUTH OF WEST 98TH STREET. THE EXISTING VOLUME BASED ON TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT WE COLLECTED AS A PART OF THE STUDY SHOWED 600 VEHICLES PER DAY UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITION. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO ADD ABOUT 1500 VEHICLES PER DAY TO THE ROADWAY. BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY MOST IMPACTED. SO THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TWO DRIVEWAYS OFF OF NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH, THE FIRST DRIVEWAY BEING JUST FOUR HOUSES SOUTH OF WEST 98TH STREET. SO THAT 1500 VEHICLES PER DAY WOULD MOST IMPACT THE FIRST FOUR HOMES ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH TO THE SOUTH OF WEST 98TH STREET. THERE'S ALSO A SECOND DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO THE SITE WHICH IS ANOTHER THREE HOMES FURTHER SOUTH. SO WE WOULD ALSO ANTICIPATE SOME VOLUME INCREASE TO THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES AS WELL FOR THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES I WOULD ANTICIPATE CLOSER TO ABOUT 500 EXTRA VEHICLES PER DAY THAT ARE ADDED AS WE CAN ASSUME THAT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN WOULD TURN INTO THE SITE AT THE FIRST DRIVEWAY AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY PARK WITHIN THE PARKING LOT THEY MIGHT CHOOSE TO EXIT OUT OF THAT SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY INSTEAD. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT JUST SO WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES PER DAY. SO AN OVERALL 24 HOUR DAY, HOW MANY VEHICLES CAN WE EXPECT? I HAVE TWO BULLETS ON THE SCREEN JUST SHOWING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES PER HOUR AND VEHICLES PER MINUTE DURING THAT PEAK HOUR. SO UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITION BASED ON THE TRAFFIC DATA THAT WE COLLECTED DURING EACH OF THE PEAK HOURS, WE FOUND THAT THAT 600 VEHICLES PER DAY REALLY EQUATES TO ONE CAR PER MINUTE ON AVERAGE. NOW YOU CAN HAVE A A TIME WHERE MORE VEHICLES ARE GOING THROUGH WHERE YOU'D SEE SEVERAL VEHICLES IN A ROW. BUT IF WE WERE TO EQUALLY AVERAGE OUT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN AN HOUR, IT'D BE ONE VEHICLE PER MINUTE THROUGHOUT THAT PEAK HOUR UNDER THE BUILD CONDITION WITH THE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE INCREASING UP TO ABOUT THREE CARS PER MINUTE PER HOUR OR DURING THE PEAK HOURS WITH LESS TRAFFIC THAN DURING OFF PEAK. SO I GUESS WITH THE 1500 VEHICLES JUST TO CLARIFY THE 1500 VEHICLES BEING ADDED IS HIGHER THAN THAT 300 THRESHOLD. SO THE FIRST CRITERIA IS MET AND FOR THIS IF ANY OF THE THREE THRESHOLDS ARE MET THEN THAT CRITERIA MITIGATION IS NEEDED AND THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DETERMINE IF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED OR NOT . THE SECOND CRITERIA LOOKS AT IF THE PROPOSED USE WERE TO ADD 100 OR MORE NEW TRIPS SUCH THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS IN A DAY WOULD INCREASE TO OVER 1000 VEHICLES PER DAY. SO THIS CRITERIA IS ALSO MET WITH THE ADDITION OF 1500 VEHICLES PER DAY BRINGING THAT TOTAL TO ABOUT 2100. AND THEN THE THIRD AND FINAL VOLUME THRESHOLD THAT THIS CITY CODE MEASURE LOOKS AT IS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS IN AN HOUR THAT ARE ADDED AND THIS CRITERIA IS ALSO MET IF THE PROPOSED USE WERE TO GENERATE 100 OR MORE TRIPS IN AN HOUR ON A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET. THE TABLE I HAVE SHOWN HERE SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ADDED DURING THE AM PEAK AND THE PEAK THE TWO BUSIEST GENERATING HOURS OF THE DAY. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DURING BOTH PEAKS WERE JUST OVER 100 VEHICLES IN AN HOUR THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ADDED DUE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT THE CRITERIA FOR THE CITY CODE BEING MET? WE DID RECOMMEND A FEW DIFFERENT MITIGATION MEASURES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE LIVABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN AND MOTORIST SAFETY ON NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH . THE FIRST MITIGATION MEASURE IS TO INSTALL CURB BUMP OUTS ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH AT BOTH OF THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. SO I HAVE CIRCLED IN BLUE THE TWO ACCESS POINTS TO THE COMMUNITY AND HEALTH AND ONE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER OFF OF NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH. AND THEY'RE PRETTY SMALL ON THE SCREEN BUT KIND OF SHOWN IN RED WOULD BE WHAT THE BUMP OUTS COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE. REALLY THE INTENT OF THE BUMP OUTS IS TO EXPAND THE CURB SO THAT THE ROADWAY SECTION NARROWS AND THAT HAS A PROVEN TRAFFIC CALMING OR SPEED REDUCING IMPACT ALONG THE ROADWAY. ALSO SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS AN IMAGE FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AGAIN JUST KIND OF DEPICTING WHAT A CURB BUMP OUT LOOKS LIKE. THE NEXT MITIGATION MEASURE THAT WE RECOMMEND WOULD BE TO ALLOW PARKING ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH. SO CURRENTLY PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED ON EITHER SIDE OF NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH. THIS SHOWS A STREET VIEW LOOK WITH ONE OF THE NO PARKING SIGNS IN VIEW. WE WOULD RECOMMEND ALLOWING PARKING JUST ON THE WEST SIDE SO NOT ON THE SIDE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES BUT ON THE SIDE THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND PARKING COULD EITHER BE ALLOWED AT ALL TIMES OR IT COULD BE RESTRICTED TO ONLY BE ALLOWED WHEN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IS OPEN. NOW IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT AT ALL TIMES THAT WOULD PROVIDE A TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT WHENEVER SOMEONE IS PARKED THROUGHOUT THE DAY IF IT'S ONLY ALLOWED WHEN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IS OPEN THEN WE CAN ONLY ANTICIPATE TRAFFIC COMING DUE TO THIS DUE TO PARKING WHEN THE FACILITY IS IN FACT OPEN. AND WE ALSO RECOMMEND STREET PARKING IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE JUST MORE PARKING FOR THE SITE FOR LARGE EVENTS SO THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY ILLEGAL PARKING ON THE ROADWAY. AND WE ALSO DID WITNESS PARKING PEOPLE PARKED ON THE STREET JUST SHOWING SOME DESIRE TO ALLOW PARKING ON THIS ROADWAY. NEXT I'LL GO THROUGH JUST A FEW KEY STUDY FINDINGS FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY. SO FIRST WE DID AN OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS LOOKING AT THE AM AND PM PEAK HOUR. WE COLLECTED DATA AND LOOKED AT BOTH THE EXISTING CONDITION AND THEN THE PROPOSED CONDITION WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS PROPOSED USE. AND REALLY WE FOUND THAT THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS TODAY ARE ACCEPTABLE AND WOULD REMAIN ACCEPTABLE EVEN WITH THE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM THE PROPOSED USE. ONE AREA THAT I CALL OUT HERE ON THE SCREEN JUST TO DRAW ATTENTION TO IS THE DELAY THAT CAN BE EXPECTED FOR THE NORTHBOUND LEFT AT NEWTON AVENUE AND WEST 98TH STREET. SO THE EXISTING DELAY FOR THE VEHICLES DURING THE PEAK HOURS ON AVERAGE. SO SOME VEHICLES ARE WAITING MORE THAN THIS. SOME ARE WAITING LESS BUT ON AVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE PEAKS VEHICLES WAIT BETWEEN 10 AND 17 SECONDS ON AVERAGE PER VEHICLE TO MAKE THAT NORTHBOUND LEFT MOVEMENT. WE'RE UNDER OUR BUILD CONDITION WITH THE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT. WE SEE THAT INCREASE TO 17 TO 18 SECONDS PER VEHICLE. SO PRETTY A PRETTY MINOR INCREASE. AGAIN SOME VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE WAITING LONGER. SOME ARE GOING TO WAIT LESS. IT'S OUR STANDARD TO LOOK AT THE AVERAGE DELAY THROUGHOUT A PEAK HOUR AND REALLY THESE LEVELS THAT WE FINDING IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER KIND OF A MORE MINIMAL DELAY ACCEPTABLE DELAY. JUST AS A REFERENCE IT'S WHEN WE'RE SEEN AT A STOP CONTROLLED LOCATION IF WE'RE SEEING A DELAY MORE THAN 50S THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD START TO HAVE SOME CONCERN AND THAT WOULD SHOW US THAT WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO LOOK AT SOME MITIGATION MEASURES TO REDUCE THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LEVELS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE ARE SIGNIFICANT ONLY LOWER . AND THEN I KNOW THAT MIKE WENT OVER SOME OF THE PARKING NUMBERS AND I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY I KNOW HE SHOWED 353 PARKING STALLS AND I SHOWED 352. OUR EYE SHOWED 323 SORRY BUT WE DID DO A PARKING ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH PARKING IS REALLY NEEDED AT THIS SITE. AS HE MENTIONED I'LL JUST GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT. SO THE GRAPHIC SHOWN HERE SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED PER THE CITY CODE AT 468. WE KNOW THAT THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE HIGH AND CAN RESULT IN OVERBUILDI OF PARKING. SO WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR LOCATION AND AS WELL AS THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS PARKING GENERATION MANUAL. SO THE PARKING THAT'S SHOWN HERE FOR THE EAGAN SITE AND THE BROOKLYN CENTER SITE THAT IS NOT THE PARKING THAT WE FOUND AT THOSE SPECIFIC SITES . RATHER WE WENT OUT AND DID PARKING COUNTS AT EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND THEN COMPARED DURING PEAK TIMES AND THEN WE COMPARED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING BASED ON OR TO THE THE BUILDING SIZE OF THOSE SITES. AND FROM THAT WE DETERMINED OF A RATE OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING HOW MANY PEOPLE HOW MANY PARKED PARKING STALLS WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE. SO USING THAT RATE FROM THE SIMILAR LOCATIONS WE THEN COMPARED THE BUILDING SIZE OF THIS LOCATION AND DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THOSE SIMILAR SITES BETWEEN 239 AND 237 PARKING STALLS ARE REQUIRED OR ARE NEEDED BASED ON THOSE OTHER LOCATIONS PEAK PARKING DEMAND THE PARKING DEMAND CAME IN SIMILARLY WITH RECOMMENDING 200 STALLS. SO BASED ON THESE SIMILAR LOCATIONS WE FEEL THAT THE 323 OR 353 I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY WHICH NUMBER IS CORRECT REGARDLESS, THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING AT THE SITE. AND THEN MY LAST KEY FINDING BEFORE I GET INTO JUST TWO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WE DID DO A SAFETY ANALYSIS LOOKING AT THE CRASH HISTORY FOR THE INTERSECTIONS SURROUNDING THE SITE. AND REALLY WE FOUND NO SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT. ALL THE INTERSECTIONS IN THE PROJECT AREA OPERATE WITHIN THE NORMAL EXPECTED RANGE. SO THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT ADDITIONAL TRIPS WITH THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT WOULD CREATE OR CONTRIBUTE TO A SAFETY ISSUE. AND THEN LASTLY I HAVE TWO SLIDES HERE GOING THROUGH A FEW OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE. THE FIRST BEING RECOMMENDATIONS ON LOCATIONS FOR STOP SIGNS. WE RECOMMEND HAVING STOP SIGNS INSTALLED FOR THE DRIVEWAYS FOR THE ACCESSES TO THE PROPOSED SITE FOR CONSISTENCY ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH AND ALONG PENN AVENUE SOUTH. AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMEND STOP SIGNS WITHIN THE SITE TO PROMOTE GOOD CIRCULATION AND SAFETY OF VEHICLES DRIVING THROUGH THE SITE. I SHOULD NOTE HERE TOO THAT THE EXACT DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AND TIE INS ALONG PENN AVENUE SOUTH ARE STILL IN DISCUSSION WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. AND THEN OUR LAST RECOMMENDATION ON PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS WE RECOMMEND ADDING ADA ACCESSIBLE RAMPS AND TRUNCATED DOMES AT ALL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO AND WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AS WELL AS ADDING A MARKED CROSSWALK IN THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO CREATE A CLEAR PEDESTRIAN ROUTE FROM THE LOT INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING . AND WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OVER TO KIRK. MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER. MR.. IF I MIGHT REQUEST THAT WE PAUSE THE STAFF PRESENTATION IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC OR PARKING. WE GOT A LOT OF VERY DEEP DATA . SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC PERHAPS WE COULD CLARIFY ANY QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO DENY THE REQUEST. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, I'M KIRK ROBERTS. I'M TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER FOR THE CITY. IT'S NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU THAT I HAVEN'T MET YET. MY JOB HERE TONIGHT THERE WERE SOME SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DATA THROWN OUT AND TO TRY TO HELP THE COMMISSION PUT SOME OF THAT IN CONTEXT. TRAFFIC IS A VERY EMOTIONAL ISSUE AND SO I HAVE THE TASK OF PUTTING SOME NUMBERS TO THOSE EMOTIONS THAT PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE THREE AREAS I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON PRIMARILY ARE THE MAGNITUDE THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT WERE THROWN OUT TO YOU EARLIER BASICALLY HOW MUCH TRAFFIC? THE NEXT THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S THE CONTEXT OF THAT TRAFFIC? WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS IT? IS IT LOCAL TRAFFIC THAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A PLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN THE CASE OF RETAIL? IS IT IS IT PEOPLE JUST GETTING IN AND GETTING OUT AND DOING THEIR SHOPPING AND THEN THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO IS HOW FAR THE EXTENT HOW FAR INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES THAT TRAFFIC GO AND THE LET'S SEE THE OF THE THREE CRITERIA PROBABLY THE MOST SUBJECTIVE IS THE WHAT KIND? AND YOU ALL HAVE GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SO YOU'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO YOUR JUDGMENT AND SEE IF WHAT I COME UP WITH IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS IT THAT'S IN THESE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THE FIRST EXAMPLE IS IF YOU HEAD NORTH ON PENN AVENUE UP TO 82ND STREET, THERE'S LET'S SEE YEAH, PENN AVENUE AT 82ND STREET ALONG 82ND STREET THERE'S THREE SIGNIFICANT TRIP GENERATORS ALONG HERE. THERE'S A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY THAT'S IN THIS CONTEXT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH ST MARK'S. THE NEXT STOP IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN JUST OFF OF THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT OFFICE COMPLEX AND A PLACE TO GET REALLY GOOD ROAST BEEF FOR LUNCH IF THAT'S YOUR YOUR MENU THE THE THING TO FOCUS ON OR WHERE I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION IS THIS 2400 NUMBER THAT YOU CAN HARDLY SEE ON YOUR SCREEN BUT THAT'S BASICALLY 2400 CARS A DAY RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF PENN AVENUE AND 82ND STREET. SO THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO THERE IT IS. IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FOR A LOCAL STREET. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CONTEXT. PLACE OF ASSEMBLY NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCHES ARE REALLY TYPICAL IN THE UPPER MIDWEST. WE SEE THIS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALL THE TIME. THE TRAFFIC THEY GENERATE IS GENERALLY IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE FEEL A SENSE OF PLACE WITH THAT THEY IDENTIFY WITH THAT THE TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING TO THOSE PLACES SEEMS LIKE IT'S PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PART OF THE FABRIC OF THEIR LIFE. AND SO THOSE DON'T GENERATE A WHOLE LOT OF COMPLAINTS OR PEOPLE SEEKING RELIEF. NEXT UP IS MULTIFAMILY IN THIS CASE IT'S YEAH, MULTIFAMILY AND THAT CAN BE APARTMENTS. IT CAN BE TOWNHOMES, CONDOMINIUMS. THE TRIP GENERATED THE TRIPS EXCUSE ME THE TRAFFIC GENERATED WITH THOSE IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AGAIN THEY GENERATE TRIPS AT A HIGHER RATE BUT IT'S GENERALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A NEIGHBOOOD SETTING. THE ONLY SORT OF OUT OF PLACE THING HERE IS THE TRIPS GENERATED BY THIS SIGNIFICA OFFICE COMPLEX THAT IS THE HIGHEST TRIP GENERATOR IN THE AREA AND THAT THE TYPE OF TRIP BEING GENERATED IS VERY DIFFERENT. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT LIVE IN THE AREA BUT THEY MIGHT LIVE IN MOOSE LAKE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. IT'S THE PEOPLE COME IN AND GOING TO WORK COMING TO PATRONIZE THOSE BUSINESSES, THOSE OFFICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S VERY DIFFERENT IN CONTEXT THAN YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THEN WITH THAT IN MIND IS THAT THIS HAS WORKED IN THIS AREA 82ND STREET. ONE OTHER FEATURE TO POINT OUT OF THIS OFFICE COMPLEX THE HIGHEST STRIP GENERATOR IS THIS GOT THESE MULTIPLE ACCESSES YOU CAN TAKE ACCESS OFF OF 81ST STREET WHICH IS INCORRECTLY LABELED BUT YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE THE LABEL ANYWAY THAT'S 81ST STREET TO THE NORTH. AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING INTO THE OFFICE OR LEAVING THE OFFICE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES IN AND OUT AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT REPEATEDLY THROUGH HERE. WHAT MAKES THIS ALL WORK THOUGH IS THE LAST CRITERIA THE EXTENT THOSE TRIPS DON'T GO VERY FAR DOWN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU LOOK AT 82ND STREET, THERE'S MAYBE 3 TO 5 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE DIRECT EXPOSURE TO THE TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET. IT JUST DOESN'T GO THAT DEEPLY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IF YOU INTERVIEW THEM. I'M SURE THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A NATURAL OPEN SPACE WITH DEER RUNNING AROUND INSTEAD OF AN OFFICE BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE DETERIORATING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED COMPLAINTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT OR REQUEST FOR RELIEF FROM THESE RESIDENTS . AND THEN IF YOU GO A BIT FURTHER SOUTH ON PENN AVENUE 88TH STREET, THIS IS ANREA YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH. PENN LAKE LIBRARY IS JUST ADJACENT SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT I'LL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION FIRST. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS ROAD IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT KELSIE TALKED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTORS AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE VOLUMES TO THE WEST HERE YOU'RE AT ABOUT 1100 VEHICLES PER DAY. THAT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC. THAT'S ALL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE WEST OF HERE AS THEY COLLECT AND FUNNEL OUT TO THE ARTERIAL SYSTEM AS YOU MOVE BY THE LINCOLN PLAY FIELDS, THESE FACILITIES HERE YOU PICK IT UP AND YOUR MAGNITUDE GOES TO 2400 CARS A DAY ROUGHLY RIGHT AT PENN AVENUE. THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE THE LOCAL PARKS AND PLAY FIELDS GENERATE TRAFFIC BUT THAT'S GENERALLY SEEN AS IN CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SPACE HERE THIS IS THE FORMER SITE OF LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S RETAINED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE IS USED PRIMARILY FOR ADULT EDUCATION AND OTHER SPECIAL SERVICES THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFERS. SO IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL USE. IT'S NOT A LOCAL SCHOOL INSIDE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SOME PUBLIC SERVIS AND LOCAL USE TO THE SOUTH IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS. IT'S MAINLY OFFICES AND THEY DON'T SHOW IT BUT THEY PRIMARILY TAKE ACCESS OFF OF 90TH STREET TO THE SOUTH WHERE THESE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES TAKE ACCESS OFF OF 88TH STREET TO THE NORTH THERE AS WELL AS A PUBLIC LIBRARY WHICH TAKES ACCESS OFF THE ROAD AS WELL . SO THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AS I MENTIONED THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS GENERALLY THEY GENERATE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC BUT AGAIN IT'S SEEN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S PART OF THE FABRIC OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S DAY TO DAY LIFE AND PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT IT DOESN'T DRAW THE IRE THAT SOME OTHER USES DO, BUT THEY ALSO IN THIS CASE DRAW TRAFFIC FROM A LITTLE BROADER AREA. SO YOU COULD SEE RESIDENTS FROM ACROSS THE CITY, MAYBE SOME FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY COMING TO UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES. PENN LAKE LIBRARY THE SAME THING. IT'S PRIMARILY GOING TO BE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS BUT IT MIGHT BE SOME FOLKS THAT COME IN FROM OTHER CITIES HERE TO ACCESS THE SERVICES THERE AS WELL SIMILAR TO 82ND STREET. THIS WORKS. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES WITH THIS TRAFFIC. IF YOU LOOK AT IT AGAIN YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE ACCESSES THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION OR THE CONGESTION ON ONE STREET. BUT THEN THE THE USES IS CONSISTENT ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THIS. WE'VE NOT HAD A HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES FOR RELIEF FOR TRAFFIC CALMING OR TRAFFIC MITIGATION OR OTHER THINGS FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ONLY COMPLAINT I CAN THINK OF THAT WE SOMETIMES GET IN A CONTEXT LIKE THIS IS THIS 88 STREET ONLY HAS SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE. RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE IT ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL. UNLIKE SIDEWALK EVERYWHERE AND EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME ON THAT EXCEPT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T AGREE WITH ME AT ALL ON THAT. AND BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY COMPLAINT THAT WE'VE HAD IS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD LIKE MORE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY OR MORE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES IN AREAS LIKE THIS. BUT THIS AREA DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF HISTORY OF ISSUES OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION. NEXT UP INDIAN MOUNTAINS AREA. THIS IS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY WHERE WE'RE ALL SHOCKED. THE ROAD TAKES A SHARP CURVE TO THE NORTH. BLOOMINGTON HAS SOME AMAZING ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND ONE OF THE BEST OF THEM IS OVER HERE TUCKED AWAY IN THE BACK OF THE INDIAN MOUNDS NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC GO FOR THAT MAGNITUDE IT STARTS OUT WITH VERY LOW VOLUMES ON 100 STREET HERE, 140 CARS A DAY. YOU PICK UP THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY TRAFFIC INCREASES. WE CROSS THAT THOUSAND CAR DAY THRESHOLD THAT TRAFFIC MIXES WITH INDIAN MOUNDS ELEMENTARY. YOU GET UP TO JUST NEARING 2000 CARS A DAY. ASKED BY A LOCAL PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AND YOU'RE UP TO ABOUT 2400 CARS A DAY APPROACHING ON ABBEY ROAD. SO THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE. IN 2011 THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY CAME FORWARD REQUESTING AN EXPANSION. THEY WANTED TO INCREASE THE SERVICES THEY OFFERED THERE AND THAT WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC. WE STUDIED IT AS PART OF THAT HEARING AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAGNITUDES IN RED THERE. SO AGAIN INCREASING TRAFFIC TO THOSE HIGHER LEVELS WHEN THIS WENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THE RESIDENTS SPOKE TO THE ISSUES THEY'D HAD WITH TRAFFIC IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT CLOSE TO THE ARTERIAL AND THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS FACILITY IS IN THE HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS TO GO A CIRCUITOUS ROUTE TO GET OUT TO THE ARTERIAL WHICH IS WHERE TRAFFIC GENERALLY WANTS TO GO . NOW PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT JUST THE MAGNITUDE BUT IT'S THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THESE WERE EMPLOYEES COMING AND GOING. THEY WERE PERCEIVED AS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NOT A PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST DOING THEIR BUSINESS AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO SEE COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAVELING THROUGH MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS AND MAYBE NOT ALWAYS BEING AS OBSERVANT OF THOSE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AS WE ARE MAKING UP FOR TIME TRAVELING THROUGH MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS AND THEN THE AMBULANCE TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS WAS GENERATING TRAFFIC THAT WAS VERY OUT OF CONTEXT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS DOING THAT IN THE HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PUTTING THAT TRAFFIC ALL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS TALKED ABOUT JUST HOW FRUSTRATING THAT'S BEEN AND WE DID HAVE A HISTORY OF TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CITY HAD BEEN ASKED FOR RELIEF ON THOSE AND AS PART OF THIS THE COUNCIL DID DECLINE THAT APPLICATION TO EXPAND THIS FACILITY IN THIS CASE AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND IN FACT THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT WAS CITED TO YOU EARLIER WHERE WE LOOK AT THAT THOUSAND TRIPS ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET CAME OUT OF THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE THAT WAS ADDED TO THE CODE AFTER THIS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPMENTS PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT TAKES US BACK TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO LOOKING AT THIS PROPOSAL MAGNITUDE CIRCLE NEWTON AVENUE, IT CROSSES OVER THAT 202,000 CARS A DAY THRESHOLD. SO THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE AND THE EXTENT IT'S ABOUT A HANDFUL OF HOUSES THERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY EXPOSED TO THAT TRAFFIC BEFORE IT REDUCES TO THAT 300 CARS A DAY. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXTENT WHERE IT'S DEEP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THE CONTEXT OF THAT TRAFFIC THIS IS A PUBLIC FACILITY. IT'S A COMMUNITY AMENITY. IT'S AND AND SO I WOULD ARGUE THEY CONTEXT OF THAT TRAFFIC IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW OVER ON 88TH STREET WHERE YOU HAVE SOME EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES OR A LIBRARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S MUCH MORE IN CONTEXT WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO STAFF DOESN'T IN GENERAL HAVE A CONCERN WITH IN THE FUTURE THESE NEIGHBORS SEEKING RELIEF OR NEEDING YOU KNOW, MITIGATION TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC PROVIDED THAT WE DO AS THE CODE SUGGESTS INCLUDE THAT TRAFFIC CALMING MITIGATION MEASURES AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS. I THINK I WRAP IT UP ON TRAFFIC AND THEN I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO PLANNING IF THERE YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO TAKE QUESTIONS. LET'S GET TO THE WHOLE THING. MR. ROBERTS THANK YOU . WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. SO YOU KNOW ON THE SLIDE COMMISSIONERS I JUST REITERATE THE ISSUE WITH THE NOTICES BUT SIMILAR TO YOUR FIRST ITEM WE ARE RECOMMENDING YOU OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING, HEAR PUBLIC TESTIMONY FROM FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK AND THEN ULTIMATELY CONTINUE TO THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING. THANK YOU, MR. CENTENARIO AND ALL THE OTHER SPEAKERS. WONDERFUL PRESENTATION, VERY THOROUGH. WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. I'M CERTAIN THERE ARE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS OF STAFF SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET US STARTED? COMMISSIONER ISA THANK YOU CHAIR I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BUT THE FIRST TWO ARE WAS THE SIDE STREET ON YOU AND I BELIEVE WAS THAT THE SIDE STREET PARKING WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE 323 TO 350 COUNT THAT COMMISSIONERS FIRST OFF IT IS 323 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TYPE OF THE PACK OF MATERIALS WERE CORRECT THE STREET PARKING THAT IS POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT IN THAT NUMBER. SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY THE NUMBER OF STALLS THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED BUT THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE AREN'T THE PARKING WITHIN THE FACILITY RIGHT FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT AT THE TIMES TODAY IS HOW MUCH PARKING WOULD BE ADA ACCESSIBLE COMMISSIONER THAT THAT IS VERY MUCH A BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENT SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH MINNESOTA STATE ACCESSIBILITY CODE AND WHATEVER THAT DICTATES. OKAY. I'LL LET OTHER COMMISSIONERS ASK QUESTIONS I MORE BUT OH WAIT YOU'RE WELCOME TO KEEP GOING IF YOU LIKE. KEEP GOING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU CHAIR SO ON THE EXISTING DELAY LET'S SLIDE THE THE FIRST RANGE WAS CURRENTLY IT'S 10 TO 17 SECONDS I BELIEVE GOING ON TO 98TH THAT GOES TURNING LEFT. YEAH YEAH. AND WHY IS THE RANGE MUCH LOWER ON THE BUILD DELAY WHERE IT'S 17 TO 18. YEAH SO THE IF I'M LOOKING BACK AT THE EXISTING DELAY IT'S REALLY 10S DURING THE AMP PEAK AND EIGHTEENS OR SORRY 17 SECONDS DURING THE PM PEAK AND THEN UNDER THE BUILD CONDITION THAT IS WHERE WE SEE 17 SECONDS DURING THE AMP PEAK EIGHT SORRY 18 SECONDS BRING THE AMP PEAK AND 17 SECONDS STILL DURING THE PM PEAK I THINK IT'S JUST DUE TO MORE VEHICLES IN THE MORNING EXITING SO WE SEE KIND OF A JUMP IN DELAY THAT EIGHT SECOND DIFFERENCE BUT THEN WE SEE IT CONSISTENT DURING THE PEAK JUST DUE TO RANDOMNESS OF WHEN VEHICLES ARE ARRIVING AT THE INTERSECTION AND ALSO THE LEVELS OF TRAFFIC ALONG 98TH STREET. SO THE RANGE IS REALLY JUST AMP PEAK AND PM PEAK AND I JUST SHOWED IT AS A RANGE. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. SO ON THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED I BELIEVE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A COMPARATIVE LIKE ANALYSIS I GUESS YOU COULD SAY BUT THE 84TH I THINK IT WAS 84TH I YEAH 84TH AND PENN INTERSECTION THAT IS THERE ANY DATA ON THE LENGTH OF OWNERSHIP ON THOSE FIRST THREE HOUSES SOUTH COMPARED TO THE OTHER THE REST OF NEIGHBORHOOD KIRK WAS THIS FOR YOUR SLIDES 84TH AND PENN OH SORRY 82ND 84 EIGHT RIGHT MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA ON HAND RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GET. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL I KNOW THIS YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT MAY NOT HAVE THIS ON HAND BUT IS THERE A ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER IN THE CITY THIS PROJECT ROUGHLY ANNUALLY . COMMISSIONER, YOU SAY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE INCLUDE IN OUR ANASIS. YOU KNOW, THERE WE DO HAVE PARKS AND REC STAFF. THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THE FUNDING MECHANISMS BUT IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON PROPERTY TAXES THAT'S ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION THAT I THINK. THANKS. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, CHAIR. MR. SCENARIO CAN YOU BRIEFLY FRAME WHY THE CITY IS PURSUING A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER? WAS IT A BALLOT INITIATIVE? WAS IT A CITY COUNCIL AND THEY STARTED ITEM YOU KNOW SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? SURE. COMMISSIONERS YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER FOR MANY YEARS AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO A GENERAL EXCUSE ME FOR MANY YEARS AND THERE WAS A PROPOSAL YEARS AGO TO CITE A NEW CENTER VALLEY VIEW THE VALLEY VIEW AREA THAT DIDN'T MATERIALIZE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. AND SO I KNOW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEY COULD PROVIDE MUCH MORE DETAIL THAN I COULD BUT THE CITY APPROVED A REFERENDUM LOCAL SALES TAX REFERENDUM AND THAT IS THE PRIMARY TOOL FOR FUNDING THIS FACILITY. THANK YOU. SO TO BE CLEAR, IT'S A SALES TAX REFERENDUM AND NOT A PROPERTY TAX LEVY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AS THE PRIMARY FUNDING VEHICLE OF THIS PROJECT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL KNOCK MY TRAFFIC ONES OUT. COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE MODEL THAT SHOWED THE CURRENT AND THEN THE POST BUILD STREET COUNTS? I PERFECT MY ONLY QUESTION ON THIS I KNOW THAT TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE AS MUCH SCIENCE AS THEY ARE ART AT TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION PUT INTO THEM AS MR. ROBERTS SAID THE QUESTION I HAVE IS YOUR MODELING. NO INCREASED TRAFFIC SOUTH OF THE PARKING LOT ON NEWTON WHERE IT MEETS 100TH AND I GUESS DID YOUR MODEL SPEAK AT ALL TO PEOPLE COMING OFF OF OLD SHOCK APPROACH AND WESTBOUND GETTING OFF AT MORGAN AND THEN CUTTING OVER TO KIND OF SKIRT AROUND TWO STOPLIGHTS? YEAH SO I THAT I, I GUESS THIS WAS NOT I ADDED THIS SLIDE TO GO THROUGH I GUESS HOW WE CAME UP WITH OUR DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC SO YOU'RE REFERRING PROBABLY TO THE THERE'S THE PERCENTAGES SHOWN IN BLUE WE LOOKED AT THE AVERAGE DAILY VOLUME OF THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING FROM AND THEN WE LOOK AT JUST DISTANCE ACCESSIBILITY INTO THE SITE AND THEN JUST FASTEST PATH FOR VEHICLES TO GET FROM THESE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS INTO THE SITE AND BASED ON WHERE THERE IS THAT ACCESS OFF OF PENN AVENUE SOUTH, IT IS QUICKER EASIER TO IF YOU'RE COMING ALONG WESTBOUND ON WILL TRACK BEE ROAD TO MAKE THE LEFT TURN AND THEN CONTINUE ALONG PENN AVENUE AND THEN TURN INTO THE SITE THEN CONTINUE OVER TURNING ON TO MORGAN AND THEN TAKING 100 TO NEWTON I THINK THERE COULD DEFINITELY BE VEHICLES THAT CHOOSE TO DO THIS BUT WE GO WITH JUST THE FASTEST ROUTE, THE MOST LOGICAL ROUTE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND THEN ASSUME MOST VEHICLES YOU KNOW ANYONE FOLLOWING GOOGLE MAPS IS GOING TO JUST FOLLOW THAT FASTEST PATH TO GET TO THE SITE. THANK YOU. LAST TRAFFIC QUESTION I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA BEHIND USING PARKED CARS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF NEWTON AS A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE AND I BELIEVE THAT PARKED CARS DO SLOW MOVING CARS DOWN. MY CONCERN OR MY MY QUESTION IS WAS THERE ANY WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT PUT INTO THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE HAVING THE PARKING LOT BE FARTHER SOUTH THAN THE BUILDING THAT THOSE STREET PARKING SPOTS WOULD BE MORE PREFERRED PARKING OVER THE PARKING LOT ITSELF. SO TO REPEAT, YOU'RE ASKING IF THERE WOULD BE A LAYOUT THAT FOR SOME REASON IF THE LIKE PARKING ON THE STREET WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT THAN PARKING IN THE LOT TO GET INTO THE SITE. >> YEAH MY MY QUESTION IS WOULD IT BE WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THE STUDY I NEED TO PHRASE THIS AS A QUESTION WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THE STUDY THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO THE STREET PARKING SPOTS APPEAR TO BE CLOSER THAN THE PARKING SPOTS IN THE PARKING LOT? SO MY QUESTION IS WOULD THERE BE IS THERE A CONCERN FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE OF THOSE SPOTS BEING FILLED PRIOR TO THE PARKING LOT BEING FILLED SINCE THEY'RE CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE? I GUESS FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE WE SEE THE BEST TRAFFIC CALMING WHEN WE HAVE MORE CARS PARKED ON THE ROADWAY. SO IF PEOPLE WERE TO I GUESS PARK ON THE STREET THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE SPEEDS AND PROVIDE MORE TRAFFIC CALMING. OKAY. SO I WOULD NOT HAVE CONCERNS WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET FILLING BEFORE THE PARKING LOT WERE TO BE FILLED . THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. VERY GOOD. I'LL GO NEXT HERE. I DO HAVE A FEW TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO RETIRE ANY SIGNALS ON THE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS? OUR ANALYSIS ASSUMED EXISTING TIMING FOR THE TWO SIGNALS WHICH ARE MANAGED BY HENNEPIN COUNTY AND WE DID NOT SEE ANY DELAY ISSUES WITH THE ADDED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO EITHER SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION ALONG PENN AVENUE. SO I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE ANY NEED FOR RE TIMING. THANK YOU. MY OTHER TRAFFIC QUESTION IS REGARDING PENN AVENUE WHICH IS A COUNTY ROAD AND YOU MENTIONED THAT WHERE YOU'RE STILL WORKING WITHIN THE COUNTY ON THOSE ACCESSES. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT? AND I MIGHT INVITE KIRK UP TO SPEAK ON THAT. I KNOW THAT BOTH OF THOSE ACCESSES BEING THAT IT IS ON A COUNTY ROAD ARE IN DISCUSSION THEN WITH THE COUNTY AND ON ANY CHANGES TO ACCESS ALONG THE ROADWAY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY DECISION AT THIS TIME FOR IF THE ACCESS WILL REMAIN AS IT'S SHOWN ON THIS PLAN OR BE MODIFIED . MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, WE DID HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY BASED ON THE MODELING WORK THAT KELCY DID. IT'S FELT THAT THIS ACCESS THAT'S SHOWN TO THE NORTH UP HERE IT'S A RIGHT ACCESS RIGHT OUT ACCESS ACROSS FROM JONES PLACE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON THE Q LINKS THAT WERE SHOWN IN THE MODELING FOR THAT SIGNAL. THAT ACCESS NEEDS TO PROBABLY COME DOWN RIGHT ABOUT HERE. SO THE DRIVEWAY IS LIKELY TO COME STRAIGHT ACROSS INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE NORTH HERE. SO THIS IS LIKELY WHERE YOUR SECOND ACCESS ON TO PENN AVENUE IS GOING TO BE. SO THAT'S THE PRELIMINARY PRIMARY CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD RIGHT NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHEREHE DRIVEWAY WILL END UP BUT THOSE ARE STILL AND THAT'S STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE. SO MR. ROBERTS, WHAT'S THE RISK THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY DENIES THAT APPLICATION? I THINK THAT RISK IS FAIRLY LOW AT THIS POINT FOR THAT. WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE SHOWN THEM THE ENGINEERING AND SUBJECT TO THEIR JUDGMENT I THINK. I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE WITH THAT IN A WORLD WHERE THEY DO DENY THAT APPLICATION, WHAT EFFECT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT? AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THE IN THAT CASE MOST OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD END UP ON NEWTON AVENUE. AND SO I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS FROM THIS STUDY BUT YEAH, THAT WOULDN'T PLACE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THE SITE FROM NEWTON AVENUE. MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. WOULD THAT BE A MATERIAL CHANGE TO THIS APPLICATION LIKE LET'S SAY ULTIMATELY THIS WERE TO PROCEED FORWARD AND IT'S APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THEN HENNEPIN COUNTY DENIES THAT APPLICATION AND THE TRAFFIC SHIFTS WOULD THEN HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. AND I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR PLANNING STAFF. MY INITIAL ASSUMPTION WOULD BE YES, THAT'S AND THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO PLANNING STAFF ON THAT. MR. STANTON AREA OR MR. TOM SKI AT CHAIR COMMISSIONERS YOU KNOW THERE THE CITY CODE DOESN'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON WHAT THRESHOLDS THERE ARE FOR CHANGES TO AN APPLICATION ONCE THEY'RE MIDSTREAM. I CAN JUST SAY PERSONALLY AND I THINK PLANNING MANAGER WOULD AGREE THAT WE WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AN APPLICATION MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SIGNIFICANT OF A CHANGE TO THE OVERALL ACCESS PLAN. SO WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REVIEW. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. MR. JOHNSON ANYTHING NEW? CHAIR COOKSON WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT PER THE INSTITUTIONAL USE STANDARDS MITIGATION MEASURES ARE REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO THAT'S TIED TO TRAFFIC AND TRIPS. AND SO IF THE TRIP COUNT WERE TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE IN A MEASURABLE WAY THEN CERTAINLY THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES WOULD HAVE TO BE REEXAMINED. AND SO LIKELY THAT ALONE WOULD DRIVE THIS BACK THROUGH AN ENTITLEMENT AND REVIEW PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF NON TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. MR. SMITH SCENARIO DID THE CITY CONSIDER A PROOF OF PARKING INSTEAD OF JUST SUPPLYING MORE THAN WE FEEL IS NECESSARY? SURE. CHAIR CAPTAIN COMMISSIONERS I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CONSIDERED. I THINK THEY ALSO AND YOU KNOW THE THE FOLKS ON THE DESIGN TEAM CAN PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT BUT I THINK THEY THERE WAS A LEVEL OF CONCERN OR DESIRE TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE PARKING IN THOSE RARE EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE A LARGER MEETING OR BANQUET. SO THERE WASN'T AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PARKING ILLEGALLY. SO I THINK IT WAS OUT IN PART IT WAS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE PARKING IN THE SITE AND THAT'S WHY THEY PROVIDE THEY'RE SHOWING THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE. THANK YOU, MR. SPENCER. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS REGARDING THE LONG PARKING ISLAND VEGETATION THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED. SO THAT'S THE ONE VARIANCE THE CITY IS SEEKING. WAS IT CONSIDERED TO DO A CODE CHANGE INSTEAD OF A VARIANCE REQUEST? A CHAIR CAPTAIN COMMISSIONERS A CODE CHANGE WAS NOT ENVISIONED OR CONSIDERED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. WE IDENTIFIED IT BEING A DEVIATION A DEVIATION AS NECESSARY BUT ULTIMATELY CONCLUDED THAT WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND IN OUR MIND IS BETTER IF YOU WILL THAN WHAT JUST MEETING CITY CODE WOULD BE. IT INCLUDES STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SO THAT THERE'S A VISUAL ELEMENT OR EVEN AN EDUCATIONAL ELEMENT TO THAT. AND ACTUALLY IT WOULD INCORPORATE MANY MORE TREES THAN WOULD BE THE MINIMUM CODE REQUIREMENT. SO WE ACTUALLY FELT THERE WAS IT DOES MEET THE TEST IF YOU WILL, TO SUPPORT A DEVIATION. VERY GOOD. MR. JOHNSON YET CHAIR CROOKSTON IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER ROBERTS CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT MY STATEMENT IF HE BELIEVES IT'S CORRECT. BUT I WANTED TO JUST MAKE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S THE ACCESS NEAR JONES THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW WITH THE COUNTY. THEY HAVE NOT EXPRESSED ANY OPPOSITION TO THE THE SOUTHERN ACCESS AT IVY LANE. IS THAT CORRECT? KIRK? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION AROUND WHAT IF ACCESS IS REMOVED FROM PENN? THE SOUTHERN ACCESS IS NOT UNDER SCRUTINY CURRENTLY. THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER LEVY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. ONE QUESTION CONSIDERING THAT THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY PURPOSE BUILT AS A SCHOOL IN THIS TRAFFIC STUDY, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR COMPARISON FOR WHAT THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC TRAFFIC OUTSIDE THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY PERHAPS SOMEWHAT SO SIMILARLY PLACED? I ASK BECAUSE THE SHIFT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO TO PARENTS DRIVING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL EVEN WHEN THERE ARE BUSSES WALKING AND WHATNOT AVAILABLE I THINK THOSE TRAFFIC LOADS AROUND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FACTOR IN. ALSO HAD THIS REMAINED A SCHOOL WE DID NOT LOOK I GUESS AND YOU'RE WONDERING IF WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR SCHOOLS IN THE AREA TO SEE KIND OF TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT WE CAN EXPECT THERE. YEAH. BASICALLY IF THIS WOULD HAVE REMAINED TO SCHOOL AND NOT BECOME THE SENIOR CENTER IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAD CONTINUED TO OPERATE AT THE SCHOOL, WOULD THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE TRAFFIC WITH PARENTS LINED UP WAITING TO PICK UP AFTER SCHOOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN A WAY THAT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT DUE TO CHANGING PATTERNS? YEAH WE DID NOT LOOK AT I GUESS THE PREVIOUS USE TO TRY TO COMPARE. YOU KNOW WE DID LOOK AT THE THE EXISTING SITE, THE EXISTING COMMUNITY CENTER AND HOW IT WORKS AND OPERATES TODAY BUT NOT LOOKED WE DID NOT LOOK BACK AT PREVIOUS USES . COMMISSIONER SUMMERS THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS MIGHT BE IN SOME OF THE PACKET DETAILS BUT I KNOW THAT SO THERE WERE COMMENTS ON PEOPLE'S VIEW OF A COMMUNITY CENTER OR A WORK PLACE AND THAT THAT SOMETIMES CHANGES NEIGHBOR SENTIMENT. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO BE OFFICES OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY CENTER ? AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF THERE BUT PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT. WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP IN JUST A MINUTE. I MISS SUMMERS SO I JUST ASK THAT QUESTION. >> OKAY. YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. I HAVE ONE MORE. YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE PARKING BEING LIKE HOW MUCH PARKING IS PREDICATED ON A RARE EVENT THAT WOULD BE LARGE. WHAT DOES WHAT HOW OFTEN DOES A RARE EVENT HAPPEN? >> CHRISTOPHER THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW THERE ARE YOU KNOW THE IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A DAILY OCCURRENCE. I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE CERTAIN WEEKENDS THAT HAVE JUST A CONFLUENCE OF ACTIVITIES THAT MIGHT LEAD TO A GREATER TRAFFIC OR A PARKING DEMAND THAN OTHERS. BUT WE TEND NOT TO SEE PEAK PEAK DEMAND DURING, YOU KNOW, OUR REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS. AND I THINK THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOUND THAT TRAFFIC WOULD BE GREATEST IN I BELIEVE IT WAS THE EVENING AND THE WEEKENDS THAT SEEM RIGHT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN THERE COULD ALWAYS BE A CHANCE THAT MORE FOLKS ATTEND A BANQUET THAN ANTICIPATED AND IT'S HARD TO PLAN FOR THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT EXTRA PARKING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN JUST TO PROVIDE THAT BUFFER. MM HMM. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST ONE FOLLOW UP TRAFFIC QUESTION TALKING ABOUT THESE SPECIAL EVENTS OR THIS CONFLUENCE OF WE HAVE A WEDDING OR A BANQUET HAPPENING AND THERE'S A BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT AND PEOPLE HAVE A YOU KNOW, WATER AEROBICS CLASS ALL HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'VE MAYBE ACCOMMODATED THAT IN THE PARKING YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHETHER YOU ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IN THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS? YEAH. SO WE WE MODELED JUST THE TYPICAL WEEKDAY AM AND PM PEAK. I THINK JUST KNOWING THE SITE HOW IT'S SET UP IF WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS GOING ON AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO EXIT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK THAT COULD BE AN EXAMPLE WHEN WE SEE MORE PEOPLE USING THE PARKING LOT TO COME OVER TO PENN AVENUE TO TO EXIT THEIR RATHER THAN USING NEWTON OR CHOOSING TO GO SOUTH ON NEWTON. YOU KNOW, JUST AS A DIFFERENT WAY OUT IF THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO EXIT AT THE SAME TIME AND A BACKUP GOING ON. BUT I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS I GUESS WITH THAT WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN FOR TRAFFIC LEVELS AND HOW THE SURROUNDING AREA OPERATES . OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF GROCERIES. SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WOULD BE NO UPDATES TO 98TH NORTH RIGHT? OKAY. IF IS THERE A PLAN LIKE IF TRAFFIC WERE TO AFFECT IT IT'S KIND OF A CONTINGENT PLAN I GUESS FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMINOLOGY. YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO I GUESS THERE IS THE CURRENT COMMUNITY CENTER DOES HAVE I DON'T KNOW DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE SHOWING THE CURRENTLY OUT THE FIRST ONE OF THE FOUR EARLY SLIDES OR THE EXISTING CONDITIONS? ONE MORE. SO I GUESS ONE CHANGE TO WEST 90TH IS THE CURRENT COMMUNITY CENTER. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS A WRITE OUT ACCESS THAT IS CLOSED OFF WITH ACCESS ONLY BEING TWO ACCESSES OFF OF NEWTON WITH THE PROPOSED SITE AND THEN THE TWO ACCESSES OFF OF PENN AVENUE. SO I GUESS THERE IS THAT ONE CHANGE ALONG WEST 98TH. BUT BASED ON THE OPERATIONS OF THE PENN AVENUE AND WEST 90TH SIGNAL AND THEN ALSO THE NEWTON AND WEST 90TH INTERSECTION SINCE WE'RE NOT SEEING CONCERNS WITH OPERATIONS OR SAFETY AT EITHER OF THOSE LOCATIONS, WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND MAKING FURTHER CHANGES ALONG WEST 90TH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ? COMMISSIONER MUNSTER I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT YOUR TRAFFIC QUESTIONS ANSWERED. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MR. SAID AND ALL OF OUR OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THAT VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I DO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT FROM OUR PARK STAFF. WE HUGHES'S HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND STEP FORWARD FOR US AND WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS AS WELL. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LEAH HUGHES. I AM THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND I AM ONE OF THE CORE TEAM MEMBERS FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT. I'M HERE WITH MY COWORKER DAKOTA KENYON. SHE IS A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER MANAGER AND WE ALSO HAVE CAROLYN WOLF FROM TIGER GROUP WHO IS THE OWNERS REP FOR THE PROJECT AND NANCY BLACKFORD WHO IS A DESIGN PRINCIPAL WITH H.J. ARCHITECTS, THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM? OUR PART OF THE PRESENTATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED THAT THE REST OF THE TEAM COULD NOT ANSWER. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT AND HOW WE GOT TO YOU TODAY. THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DEVELOPED A LONG TERM INITIATIVE CALLED BLOOMINGTON FORWARD TO INVEST 159 MILLION IN LOCAL PROJECTS THAT PROMOTE HEALTH WELLNESS WELLNESS ATHLETICS AND RECREATION GUIDED BY RESIDENT INPUT INDEPENDENT EXPERTS AND CITY LEADERSHIP. THE PLAN FOCUSES ON THREE KEY PROJECTS THE BLOOMINGTON IRIS GARDEN RENOVATION PROJECT WHICH IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS WHICH IS ALSO UNDERWAY AND THEN OF COURSE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT. EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HELPED SHAPE THE PLAN INCLUDING IN 2016 A COMMUNITY CENTER TASK FORCE WAS ASSEMBLED. AT THAT TIME THEY RECOMMENDED REPLACING CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH THE MODERN FACILITY OFFERING EXPANDED AMENITIES A PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED IN 2021. RESIDENTS VOICED A NEED FOR DIVERSE PARK FEATURES AND LONG TERM INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS DURING THAT PLANNING PROCESS. THAT PLANNING PROCESS CITY LEADERS GATHERED RESIDENTS FEEDBACK THROUGH MEETINGS, FORUMS AND COMMUNITY SURVEYS AND THEN SCIENTIFIC SURVEYS WERE CONDUCTED IN 2019 AND 2022 HIGHLIGHTED STRONG SUPPORT FROM COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS IN BOTH OF THOSE SURVEYS AND IN THE 2022 SURVEY TO 76% OF RESPONDING SUPPORTED A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL AS UPGRADES TO THE ICE GARDEN AND TRAIL SYSTEMS. IN 2023 THE STATE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE AUTHORED BLOOMINGTON TO PRESENT A 0.5% LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX THROUGH A BALLOT INITIATIVE. ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 VOTERS APPROVED FUNDING FOR ALL THREE PROJECTS IN THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECT THROUGH THAT REFERENDUM. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER ESI ASKED ABOUT THE COST TO RESIDENTS. IT IS ASSUMED THAT THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE U OF M I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE GROUP BUT THEY HELPED US FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT SALES TAX INCOME MIGHT BE. AND ABOUT 65% IS EXPECTED TO BE PAID FOR BY NONRESIDENTS AND THE ACTUAL COST FOR RESIDENTS. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME BUT IF YOU GO TO THE BOOM IN BLOOMINGTON FORWARD DAWG WEBSITE THERE IS A SALES LOOK AT OPTION SALES TAX FACT SHEET THAT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THIS INFORMATION. IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THE AVERAGE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT WILL PAY $8 AND SOME ODD CENTS A MONTH THROUGH LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX AND ROUGHLY ABOUT $100 A YEAR. BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE INFORMATION AT THAT WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN LOOK UP FOR THAT LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DAKOTA KENYON. I'LL SEE IF THIS ONE IS WORKING. THANKS AGAIN TO CONNOR KENYON, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND CENTER. HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER MANAGERS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. JUST A RECAP OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS $101.8 MILLION INVESTMENT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S 101.8 OUT OF THAT 159 MILLION. FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS IT WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING PUBLIC HEALTH BUILDING AND THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER AND OFFER INTEGRATED HEALTH SERVICES AND EXPANDED RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS UNDER ONE ROOF WHICH IS SOMETHING WE FEEL REALLY STRONG ABOUT THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. SOMEONE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT STAFF PUBLIC HEALTH IS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ENTITY BECAUSE STAFFING HAS MORE OF A REMOTE CAPABILITY THAN THOSE IN THE PARK AND RECREATION OFFICE. SO I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 40 SOME WORK SPACES IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK REMOTELY MULTIPLE DAYS PER WEEK IS PRESENT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF FULL TIME STAFF FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE OPERATIONS THERE. SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 12 TO 15 FULL TIME STAFF I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS ALL IN DRAFT FORM. THIS IS SIMPLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL EVENTUALLY PROPOSE AGAIN THE CREEKSIDE SITE PANERA IN 98TH HAS BEEN SHOWED HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES SO THIS LOCATION WAS VOTED AFTER EXPLORING A NUMBER OF OTHER LOCATIONS. THIS ONE WAS VOTED ON IN 2023 AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT SO FAR, THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION WORK STARTED BACK IN APRIL OF 2024 AND CONCLUDED IN SEPTEMBER OF THAT SAME YEAR. AND THAT INCLUDED A FEASIBILY STUDY WHICH IS ALL ONLINE AS WELL. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MOVING TO THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 AND THEN THAT DESIGN PHASE OF FIGURING OUT WHAT GOES WHERE AND WHAT SPACES ARE GOING TO BE AMENITIES IN THE BUILDING CONCLUDED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AT WHICH POINT WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL AND MOVED IMMEDIATELY INTO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE 50% DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE SO HAVEN'T PUT THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON IN TERMS OF FURNITURE AND FIXTURES BUT WE'RE WORKING TO REFINE THE SPACES AND AMENITIES WE KNOW WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WE'VE DONE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, ONLINE SURVEYS THROUGHOUT EACH AND EVERY STAGE OF THE DESIGN PROJECT AND REALLY TRIED TO TAKE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION. SO WE'LL TAKE SOME MORE QUESTIONS I PRESUME. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT. THANK YOU, MS. HUGHES. MS. KENYON QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. CUNNINGHAM. THANK YOU, CHAIR. CAN YOU SPEAK ON THE PROGRAMING OF MOVING PUBLIC HEALTH INTO THIS BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING THERE IN IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON FOR IT? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM. BOTH BUILDINGS WERE BUILT ROUGHLY AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME AND SO THAT MEANS THAT HVAC, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING SYSTEMS HAVE BASICALLY EXCEEDED USEFUL LIFE. AND SO BOTH BUILDINGS ARE IN A SOMEWHAT STATE OF DISARRAY. ON THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD TALK WEBSITE THERE ARE TWO VIDEOS THAT SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH BUILDING IN ISSUES WITHIN THAT BUILDING AND THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO WATCH THOSE TWO VIDEOS THAT WILL ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT EXACT QUESTION ON THAT SITE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. GROCERIES. THANK YOU CHAIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WELL, FIRST THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT PRETTY IMPORTANT QUESTION. I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT MOST OBJECTIONS MIGHT BE BECAUSE OF COSTS OR TRAFFIC TRAFFIC QUESTION DENSE OR PRETTY MUCH ANSWER AND COST WAS IMPORTANT. BUT JUST TO REITERATE RIGHT 65% WOULD COME FROM NONRESIDENTS. IT'D BE A SALES TAX AND SO IT'S A SALES TO LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX SO IT'S ON NON-ESSENTIAL ITEMS. AND SO THINGS THAT WE'RE NORMALLY TAXED THAT'S WHERE THESE FUNDS WOULD COME FROM AND IT'S A 0.5% SALES TAX. AND SO FOR BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS IT WOULD MY MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I KNOW YOU ALREADY ANSWERED IS IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $8 PER MONTH OR ROUGHLY $100 PER YEAR AT A BLOOMINGTON. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT THERE IS ONE OTHER QUESTION I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH COMMISSIONER ASKED IT BUT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT EVENTS WHETHER LARGE EVENTS AND MULTIPLE LARGE EVENTS HAPPENING IN ONE FACILITY. ONE EXAMPLE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU AS FAR AS A FACILITY THAT HAS MANY LARGE EVENTS THAT HAPPEN QUITE FREQUENTLY IS THIS ART CENTER HERE THAT IS LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND US. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WITH OTHER RECREATION FACILITIES WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE 365 PEOPLE IN A THEATER AND A THOUSAND PEOPLE COMING IN OUR FOR A FARMER'S MARKET EVENT IS WE DON'T HAVE THOSE EVENTS AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHEN WE KNOW SOME OF THOSE LARGER EVENTS ARE HAPPENING EITHER INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE FACILITY WE KNOW THOSE THINGS FAR ENOUGH ADVANCE THAT WE THEN PROGRAM THE REST OF THE SPACES ACCORDINGLY. SO IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU ASKED BUT AT OTHER RECREATION FACILITIES WE DO HAVE TO BALANCE USE WHEN WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE ONE OFF EVENTS AND WE DO THAT CONSCIOUSLY AND THOUGHTFULLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T OVER PROGRAMING ANY SPACE UNSAFELY OR PROVIDING SOME SORT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WOULD BE NEGATIVE. COMMISSIONER THANK YOU CHAIR. FOLLOWING UP ON THAT QUESTION, I'M ASSUMING FOR PEOPLE TO HOLD EVENTS THEY PAY RENTAL FEES AND WHATNOT. IF JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY DOES THAT MONEY GO INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND OR DOES IT GO BACK INTO THE PARKS AND REC FUND? WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO WHEN IT COMES IN? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER IS IT LENNY? SO I'M JUST MEANING YOU? IT DEPENDS. SO FOR EXAMPLE SOME OF THE PROGRAM FEES FOR WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS SPACE WILL GO BACK INTO THAT GENERAL FUND AND SUPPORT THE SUPPORT THOSE PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR FUND FOR PROGRAMS FACILITY FEES LIKE RENTALS WERE ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S CONSIDERED AN ENTERPRISE FACILITY AND THERE IS A COST RECOVERY. SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING THAT WILL DICTATE WHERE THOSE FUNDS GO. BUT ULTIMATELY IT WOULD ALL EITHER LIE LIKELY WITHIN THE FACILITIES OWNED ENTERPRISE BUDGET OR GO BACK INTO THAT GENERAL FUND THAT IS SUBSIDIZED FOR SOME OF THOSE YOUTH SENIOR FAMILY PROGRAMS . ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ISA? WELL CONSTRUCTION AND EXPANSION IS GOING ON WHERE WE WOULD IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN LIKE THE SENIOR PROGRAMS, WHERE WOULD THAT TAKE PLACE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RELOCATED. AND SO WE CALL IT LOOKING LIKE IT'S THE BUILDING THAT'S JUST ON THE CORNER ACROSS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BASICALLY THE CREEKSIDE SENIOR CENTER CLOSED AFTER SPRING SESSION OF CLASSES WHICH WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT MID-MAY. THAT GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO RE RELOCATE ALL OF THE PROGRAM MATERIALS AND FURNITURE INTO THAT RENOVATED LOGAN LODGE SPACE. AND SO THE SUMMER CLASSES WHICH WAS A NATURAL BREAK BETWEEN THE END OF SPRING AND BEGINNING OF SUMMER CLASSES STARTED AT LOGAN. SO WE ARE FULLY PROGRAMING LOGAN WITH SENIOR PROGRAMS. NOT EVERYTHING WAS APPROPRIATE OR FIT INTO THAT SPACE. SO A LOT OF THE SENIOR FITNESS PROGRAMS OR CRAFTS PROGRAMS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE IN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS. SO AS OF JUNE 16TH THE LION'S SHARE OF CREEKSIDE PROGRAMS WERE EITHER RELOCATED TO THAT LOGAN LODGE SPACE OR HERE AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS. THERE WERE SOME SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD TO GET A LITTLE CREATIVE WITH FOR PARTNERSHIPS. THOSE INCLUDED SOME OF THE SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS THAT CREEKSIDE OFFERED INCLUDING A WOODSHOP, A ROCK SHOP, A BOUTIQUE AND OTHER TABLE TENNIS. AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND AGREEMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE THOSE PROGRAMS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE WOODSHOP WHICH IS IN PARTNERSHIP NOW WITH EDEN PRAIRIE SENIOR CENTER. THEY HAVE AN EXISTING WOODSHOP THERE SO WE WORKED OUT A DISCOUNT DEAL FOR SENIORS WHO WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PROGRAM. WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH T.C. MAKERS FOR THE ROCK SHOP WHICH IS A TWIN CITIES NONPROFIT THAT OFFERS ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW FINE CRAFT PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A DEAL WITH I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE CHURCH SUBSTANCE MAYBE SUBSTANCE CHURCH FOR TABLE TENNIS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SENIOR PROGRAMS TO TRY TO CONTINUE THEM AS BEST WE COULD DURING THIS TRANSITIONAL TWO YEARS FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION HOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. IT REALLY IS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WITH A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MATTHEWS MISS KENYA, WE DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I WILL THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS WILL BE SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT THIS APPLICATION BEFORE US. WE WILL AGAIN INSTITUTE OUR SHOT CLOCK THREE MINUTES ON THE WALL UP THERE AGAIN, IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK ONCE EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND HAVE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES FOR YOU TO USE. SO WITH THAT MR. JOHNSON, THAT'S YOUR COACH. AND JUST TO REITERATE IF YOU WANT TO PRE-REGISTER TO SPEAK I BELIEVE THERE IS STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CAN HELP YOU SIGN UP IF YOU WANT TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS YOU HAVE JUST GIVE HIM A WAVE AND HE'LL BE SURE TO STOP BY WITH THAT SIGN IN SHEET FOR YOU. OKAY I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND PROVIDE TESTIMONY PLEASE DO SO FIRST. GOOD EVENING AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR US PLEASE USE THIS ONE. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH CAMERON. I'M A HOMEOWNER ON NEWTON AVENUE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CREEKSIDE LOT. I'M ONE OF THE FIRST FOUR HOMES THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT WILL HAVE THE ADDED 1500 CARS A DAY. I SAID WHERE I LIVE BUT THIS ISN'T JUST MY ADDRESS. IT'S A STREET WHERE I LEARNED TO RIDE A BIKE, SWING A BAT AT CREEKSIDE PARK AND WATCH SUNSETS OVER THE SOCCER FIELD TREE LINE WITH MY GRANDPARENTS. IT'S THE HOME I CHOSE TO BUY FROM MY GRANDPARENTS TO RAISE MY CHILDREN SO THEY COULD GROW UP WITH THE SAME QUIET SAFE STREETS AND OPEN GREEN SPACES. THAT SHAPED ME. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER ON THE CREEKSIDE LOT THREATENS TO TAKE THAT AWAY NOT JUST FROM MY FAMILY BUT OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR SOME CONTEXT BEGINNING IN AUGUST OF 2024 WE SPENT EIGHT MONTHS LIVING IN LIMBO KNOWING THAT THE CITY MIGHT BUY OUR HOME FOR THEIR PARKING LOT FOR THE CENTER. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME MY RESIDENTIAL ZONING WAS THREATENED. WHEN THAT PLAN WAS DROPPED WE LEARNED THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CHARACTER SAFETY AND GREEN SPACES WERE AT RISK. AND NOW MY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS BEING THREATENED AGAIN. TODAY I'M ASKING YOU TO HEAR ME NOT JUST AS A TAXPAYING RESIDENT BUT AS A MOTHER TO MANY CHILDREN, A NEIGHBOR AND SOMEONE WHO LOVES THIS COMMUNITY. THE IRONY OF THIS PROPOSAL STINGS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. A HEALTH AND WLNESS CENTER WOULD TEAR OUT OUR ONLY PARKS GREEN GRASS AND SUGGEST THAT MY KIDS PLAY INDOORS ON SYNTHETIC MATERIAL. IT WOULD MEAN TAKING AWAY OUR FRESH AIR AND GIVING US POLLUTION CAUSED BY SLOW MOVING AND IDLING TRAFFIC. IT WOULD TRADE SUNSHINE AND STARRING KNIGHTS IN THE FIELD FOR LED LIGHTS. IT WOULD REDUCE SPACES FOR UNSTRUCTURED PLAY AND REPLACE IT WITH PROGRAMING. IT WOULD TAKE OUR ONLY ACCESSIBLE PARK AND REPLACE IT WITH A RECREATION FACILITY THAT CAN ONLY BE ACCESSED WITH A HEFTY FEE. I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I'M A MOTHER WITH VERY YOUNG CHILDREN AND I'M SIGNIFICANTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY AND WELLNESS WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC AND LESS PLAY SPACE. BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M A MOTHER OF A CHILD THAT IS DEAF. THIS CHILD CANNOT RELY ON THEIR SENSE OF HEARING TO ORIENT THEMSELVES BY A BUSY CROWDED STREET. I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TO KEEP THOUSANDS OF CARS OFF MY ROAD. THE QUIET ROAD I CHOSE TO LIVE ON WITH MY DEAF CHILD. MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO I HOPE IT SHOULD BE IN THE PACKET AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY WITH TRAFFIC AND PARKING STUDIES AS A RESIDENT AND SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THE AREA WELL. BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU KNOW WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE PEDESTRIANS THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WALKING IN THE PARKING LOT AND AROUND THE FACILITY. THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERING HOW LIKE RESIDENTS LIKE MY FAMILY CAN EVEN BE PEDESTRIANS IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT ACCESS TO SIDEWALKS OR SAFE STREETS OR PARKS. AS YOU KNOW, IT WILL SEND THOUSANDS OF CARS ON OUR STREET A DAY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO. AS YOU KNOW, THIS THING IS RUNNING AS A FITNESS CENTER FROM 5:30 A.M. TO 10 P.M. THAT'S 112.5 HOURS PER WEEK THAT CARS ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP AND DOWN MY STREET. I SAW THAT THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC STUDY HAS AN ADDENDUM AND I HAVE I DON'T THINK IT REALLY ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE ISSUES AND I SPOKE TO THAT IN MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY. BUT BASICALLY TO SUM IT UP IS THERE ARE NO CALMING MEASURES THAT CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CARS ON MY ROAD TO AN ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND NONE OF THOSE CALMING MEASURES ADDRESS THE NOISE AND LIGHT STREAMING INTO OUR BEDROOM WINDOWS AT ALL HOURS. OH I'M ALMOST DONE. I PROMISE. SO THE THE BUILDING PLANS ALSO SUGGESTED PLANTING SHRUBS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SHRUBS WILL NOT SHIELD US FROM THE HEADLIGHTS POLLUTION THE CONSTANT HUM OF TRAFFIC ONLY REALLY SUBSTANTIAL BURIALS LIKE WALLS COULD BEGIN TO ADDRESS THAT. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW LIKE WHEN MY GRANDPA OWN THE HOME NOT TOO LONG AGO THE CREEKSIDE MOVED THEIR PARKING LOT TO RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE AND THE CITY'S SOLUTION WAS TO PLANT TREES IN HIS YARD. THAT WAS A NIGHTMARE AND IT STILL I THE TREES HAVE DIED. THE CITY DIDN'T MAINTAIN IT SO I DON'T THINK SHRUBS ARE A GREAT IDEA. SO I JUST IN CLOSING I JUST WANT TO BRING TWO POINTS UP THAT IN THE SURVEY STAGES OF THIS WELL HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER THERE WERE RESIDENTS OVER OVERWHELMINGLY STATED THAT THEIR TOP PRIORITIES FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WAS OUTDOOR SPACE. SO IF THE CREEKSIDE LOT IS CHOSEN AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR OUTDOOR SPACE THEN WE ARE TRULY ARE WE TRULY LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND SERVING THEIR NEEDS? AND I ALSO WANT TO BRING UP WHAT SOMEONE DID PREVIOUSLY THAT IN 2011 THE CITY DENIED MARTIN LUTHER MANOR THE RIGHT TO EXPAND BECAUSE IT WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. MARTIN LUTHER MANOR SUED THE CITY BUT THE CITY WON AND THEN PASSED CITY CODE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THE CITY HAS A RIGHT AND SHOULD PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS. WHY THEN THIS CARVER I NEED YOU TO WRAP UP. YEAH. WHY DOES DOES THIS ONLY APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESS THAT OBJECTIVELY SERVES THE COMMUNITY BUT IT DOES NOT APPLY WHEN THE CITY HAS ITS OWN PROJECT. SO I'M GOING TO URGE YOU THAT THE CITY HONORS MY RESIDENTIAL ZONE ST. THANK YOU. SUMMARY YEAH. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BRIAN EMERSON AND I AM MRS. CAMERON'S NEIGHBOR AT 9911 NEWTON. I'M AT THE END OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. I JUST HAVE SOME RANDOM THOUGHTS. ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION WHERE WE CAME IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND WERE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS AND ALL THAT. AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE THERE ASKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND ONE PERSON INCLUDING THE MAYOR LOOKED THERE. THEY ALL LOOKED AROUND AND AND SAID WELL, I'M SURE A TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE WHICH INDICATES TO ME THAT EVEN IF THERE HAD BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THAT TIME THAT NOBODY HAD EVEN TAKEN THE TIME TO EVEN LOOK AT IT, THEY COULDN'T EVEN VERIFY THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY. SO THREE MONTHS AGO WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I KNOW OF. AM I RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE'RE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY . MY ITEM NUMBER TWO IS I'M TOLD THAT CURRENTLY THE ONLY ACCESS WILL BE ON NEWTON AVENUE. WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION FROM THE COUNTY. WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE IT IN WRITING THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GRANT ACCESS? YOU KNOW, THIS IS BALONEY. IT SHOULD BE IN IN IN WRITING . NO, AS FAR AS MRS. CAMERON'S I ISSUE WITH THE PARKING. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING 5000 CARS A DAY INTO A SMALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN I JUST HEARD SOMEBODY HERE SAY IT'S 2000 CARS A DAY WHO WHO WANTS 2000 CARS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE WITH LIGHTS AND HORNS? YOU KNOW, I LIVE THERE SO I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DO IT YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SECOND THING HERE OR A THIRD OR FOURTH THING HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS LITTLE BASEBALL PARK THAT WE HAD HERE AND SOCCER FIELD YOU'RE TURNING IT INTO A PARKING LOT THAT REALLY IS REALLY GOOD UTILIZATION OF OF GREEN SPACE. AT ONE TIME I WAS AWARE WHEN I MET MRS. CAMERON I HAD NO IDEA OF ANY OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE I HAD NO NOTICE OF ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT THEY WERE THAT YOU WERE PLANNING. I'M BUYING A BUNCH OF THESE HOUSES OUT. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PROCESS DIED AND SHE WAS KEPT IN THE DARK FOR MONTHS. SHE ASKED TO SEE THE APPRAISAL ON THE PROPERTY AND WAS DENIED ACCESS TO THE APPRAISAL BECAUSE WELL, WE PAID FOR IT. OH THAT'S REALLY TREATING HER WITH WITH A LOT OF RESPECT. YOU TALK ABOUT GOING ON WHEN THESE CARS LEAVE ON 98TH STREET THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY TURN LEFT BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE BACKED UP AND SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TURN RIGHT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK BEHIND, GET IN AND ALL THAT STUFF. THERE ARE MANY REASONS AS THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD. ONE THE MAJOR ONE IS YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ACCESS PROBLEM SOLVED. YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN'T GET IT IN WRITING FROM THE COUNTY, DON'T GO AND TELL ME THAT. OH WELL YOU KNOW IT'S COMING. WELL IT SHOULD BE ALREADY BE DONE. HOW LONG IS THIS PROJECT BEING PLANNED YET? YOU KNOW AND AND THE COUNTY HASN'T SAID IT'S OKAY. SO THERE ARE REASONS THAT THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD. THE ONLY PEOPLE BEING RUN OVER BY THIS ARE ME AND MY NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO SUFFER WITH ALL THIS DISRUPTION. I'M INVOLVED IN THE REAL ESTATE FINANCING BUSINESS AND I UNDERSTAND APPRAISAL THIS SERVICES I NEED TO WRAP UP THREE MINUTES. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. IF YOU NEED ANOTHER THREE MINUTES HE'S WELCOME TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. THANK YOU. ME? MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DARCY EMMERSON. I LIVE ON NEWTON. AND I CAN TELL YOU I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A MEGA PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A MEGA FACILITY. AND WE HAVE A THIS IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, SMALL LITTLE POCKET. AND YOU SAY THEY'RE GOING TO USE 98TH STREET. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE EIGHTH STREET. THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN NEWTON SOUTH ON NEWTON BECAUSE THAT GOES STRAIGHT INTO YOU JUST FOLLOW YOUR NOSE. IT'LL GO STRAIGHT TO THE OLD CHICOPEE AXIS. AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING AND COMING AND GOING AND COMING AND GOING. AND THEN YOU DID EVEN DID YOU EVEN TAKE IN THE CONSIDERATION OF WE HAVE WINTER SNOW PLOWS, ALL THAT. THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHOW. BELIEVE ME IT ALREADY IS. AND THE WINTER WE'RE GOING TO GET BLIZZARDS, SNOW REMOVAL. JUST TAKEN CONSIDERATION. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE THATRE LIVING THERE THAT PAY TAXES. THIS IS UNFAIR FOR US. WE DON'T KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO US. YOU'RE MAKING YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE OUR LIVES MISERABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS EMERSON. GOOD EVENING, SIR. THANK YOU. HOME PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M RENTING. I WROTE A LETTER TO YOU TO CONVINCE EACH OF OUR MEDIA THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS NOT SIZED RIGHT AND NOT IN THE RIGHT LOCATION AND MAYBE NOT EVEN NEEDED EVEN THOUGH VOTER APPROVED. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A COMMUNITY CENTER, LET'S DO IT RIGHT OR NOT AT ALL. MANY YEARS AGO WHILE I WAS IN COLLEGE I LEARNED ABOUT THE SIX P'S PRIOR PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PRIOR THE SITE PICK FOR THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTERS TOO SMALL TO ACCOMMODATE THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH A THIRD GYM AND PROJECTED POPULATION GROWTH EVEN IN THE CURRENT REDUCED COMMUNITY CENTER SIZE. A POOL DECK WILL NOT HAVE ADEQUATE SEATING FOR PARENTS GYMS WON'T HAVE ADEQUATE SEATING FOR SPECTATORS AND EVEN INDOOR STORAGE IS NOT ADEQUATE TO STORE TABLES AND CHAIRS. AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS AREA IS NO LONGER IS NO LARGER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. EVEN HER OWN PARK AND REC DIRECTOR SAYS WE NOT HAVE WE WILL HAVE TO UTILIZE SCHOOL GYMNASIUMS FOR EVENTS THAT ARE LARGER. WE DON'T HAVE SPACES TO STORE TABLES AND CHAIRS AND THE CREEKSIDE SITE IS TOO SMALL. THIS SEVERELY LIMITS THE FUNCTION AND PURPOSE OF A COMMUNITY CENTER. I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC WILL BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS SMALL BUILD AND BE SADDLED WITH A HALF A PERCENT TAX INCREASE FOR 20 YEARS WITH A REDUCED SIZE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT IS NOT ACCOMMODATING AND MULTIFUNCTION IS JUST WRONG. BUILD IT RIGHT INTO THE RIGHT LOCATION THE FIRST TIME AS A CHEAPER AND EASIER TO DO THIS. WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROPER THE PROPER BUILD SHOULD BE LARGE ENOUGH FOR PLAN GROWTH AND PUT IN A SPOT THAT CAN SUPPORT TRAFFIC AND PARKING. HAVE CENTRALIZED CLEANING AND SERVICES HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE ADEQUATE STORAGE FOR TABLES AND CHAIRS IN THE CITY CAN RENT THESE OUT FOR FOR ATTRACTIONS AND VENUES AND NEEDS TO HAVE A LARGER AQUATICS CENTER WITH POTENTIAL 50 METER POOL. THE PLANNING ON THIS FOR THE RECOVERY CENTER WAS NOT DONE CORRECTLY AND THIS MAKES ME SAD AS A 54 YEAR RESORT IT'S LIKE STUFFING 50 POUNDS OF POTATOES IN A 5 POUND BAG AND SAYING TO THE PUBLIC THIS IS A GREAT IDEA BUT THE CURRENT PLAN WHICH IS GREATLY REDUCED GOING FROM 136,000 206,000 IN SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING IT STILL DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING OR EXPENSIVE OFFERINGS. THE PROGRAMING NEWTON AVENUE WILL HAVE WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC NO MATTER THE CALMING MEASURES IMPLEMENTED. ALSO TRAFFIC WILL SPILL OVER AND PARK UNDER RESIDENTIAL STREETS OF NEWTON PER THE PLAN MAKING THE AREA LESS OPEN AND MORE DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE ON NEWTON NOT ONE OF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE OWNING A HOME ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS COMMUNITY CENTER SO YOU SHOULD RECOMMEND THE CURRENT SITE. YOU SHOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS CURRENT SITE FOR APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL PROTECTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS THE JOB OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE CITY'S STRATEGIC GOALS TO BUILD A CULTIVATING ENDURING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ON NEWTON THAT NO LONGER WANT TO BE HERE AND THIS IS AGAINST STRATEGIC PLANNING AND PRIORITIES. I ALSO WANT TO STRESS IT'S CHEAPER AND BETTER TO DEMO A BUILDING OVER THE WINTER AND THEN BUILD AND DO FOOTINGS AND CONCRETE WITH SPRING PREVENTION IS VERY SIMPLE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VOTE RESOUNDING NO TO THIS ENTIRE THING. TELL THE CITY COUNCIL IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS NO, KICK THIS BACK FOR ANOTHER SITE PICK AND A BIGGER BETTER PLAN EVEN IF IT TAKES MORE TIME. MONEY HAS BEEN SET ASIDE ALREADY FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER IT MAY BE COSTLY EVEN GO DOWN A BIT. I RECOMMEND APPROACHING MAYBE THE ARMORY FOR RELOCATE. I COULD HAVE YOU WRAP UP PLEASE OR MAYBE LINCOLN STADIUM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . WELCOME. THANK YOU. HELLO COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JONATHAN MENKES AND I'M ACTUALLY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKS AND ARTS RECREATION BOARD FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. AND I'M A RESIDENT I COME TO YOU TONIGHT OUT OF FRUSTRATION BOTH AS A RESIDENT AND THE CHAIR OF THE PARK BOARD BECAUSE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT CREEKSIDE WAS TOO SMALL FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER BACK IN 2019 THE CITY ANNOUNCED THAT CREEKSIDE WAS TOO SMALL FOR COMMUNITY CENTER YET WHEN THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD THERE WAS NO MENTION THAT THIS BIG BEAUTIFUL WELCOMING COMMUNITY CENTER MIGHT NOT FIT ON THE SITE. IN FACT IT WAS PROMOTED AS SOMETHING GRAND AND EXCITING WITH NO INDICATION THAT IT MIGHT BE INADEQUATE. THEN AT OUR PART BOARD MEETING ON 2025 PARK STAFF OUTRIGHT SAID THE SITE IS TOO SMALL. WHY AFTER MORE THAN TWO YEARS OF PLANNING AND DISCUSSING ARE WE ONLY HEARING THIS NOW? IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION WE WERE SHOWN A PARKING STUDY. YOU WOULD THINK AS BOARD MEMBERS AND STEWARDS OF THIS PROCESS WE WOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF ANY ISSUES CODE COMPLIANCE CONCERNS OR OTHER CHALLENGES SO THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THEM RESPONSIBLY. YET NO ONE MENTIONED THAT THE CURRENT PLAN VIOLATES CODE FOR PARKING. WHEN I RAISE THIS CONCERN I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE CALMING MEASURES BUT THE CALMING MEASURES DO NOT SOLVE TRAFFIC FLOW OR THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF AN UNDERSIZED SITE. AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKS AND ART BOARD I ALSO ASKED A SIMPLE AND FAIR QUESTION HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE WORKING AT THIS FACILITY? I WAS TOLD THIS INFORMATION WAS NOT PRUDENT AND THAT THE PARKING STUDY HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED. THIS IS A REASONABLE AND NECESSARY QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PUBLIC HEALTH EMPLOYEES, CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY CENTER EMPLOYEES WILL BE USING THE SITE. OTHER FACILITIES HAVE LAYERS OF STAFF PROGRAM DIRECTORS, FITNESS DIRECTORS, JANITORS, GENERAL STAFF CHECKING ATTENDANTS AND CAFE WORKERS AND MORE. I WAS TOLD IT WASN'T IMPORTANT . HOW IS NOT KNOWING HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK IN THIS FACILITY NOT IMPORTANT. FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS I HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT THE SITE IS TOO SMALL AND ONLY NOW ARE THOSE CONCERNS BEING ACKNOWLEDGED. I FEEL IT'S DISINGENUOUS FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN ON A SITE THAT IS UNDERSIZED SHRINKING AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND REDUCING AMENITIES AND PARTICULARLY CUTTING SERVICES THAT SENIORS DEPEND ON THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED AS BOTH A SENIOR CENTER AND A COMMUNITY CENTER AND FOR MONTHS I PUSHED TO INCLUDE CLEAR LANGUAGE ABOUT SENIORS AND THE DESCRIPTIONS. AND ONLY RECENTLY WAS THAT DONE. BUT STILL MANY SENIORS FEEL DISCONNECTED, UNHEARD AND OVERLOOKED. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO HALT THIS PROJECT REEVALUATE IT THOROUGHLY AND CONSIDER SELECTING A DIFFERENT SITE ONE THAT WOULD MAXIMIZE THE BUILDING'S FOOTPRINT AND BETTER SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. LET'S ENSURE THAT WE ARE TRULY SERVED TRULY SERVING THE PEOPLE OPENLY, HONESTLY AND FAIRLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MEEKS , I THINK AND JEFFREY CHOQUETTE, 50 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF OF BLOOMINGTON. TO START I WANT TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIVE ON NEWTON AVENUE I WAS OFFENDED WHEN SOME OF THE PARKING PEOPLE SAID WELL ONLY THREE HOUSES WILL BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED AND MAYBE 2 OR 3 MORE MINIMALLY AFFECTED. SO LIKE HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA? THEY TALKED ABOUT THE CURB BUMP OUT TO BE CALMING FOR TRAFFIC. HOW ABOUT WHEN TRAFFIC ON WEST 90TH STREET WESTBOUND IS BACKED UP WELL BEYOND NEWTON AVENUE THAT PUTS THAT 15 TO 17 SECOND WAIT TIME PER VEHICLE UP TO 2 TO 3 FOR MINUTES AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET REALLY MAD TURN AROUND AND SCREAM DOWN NEWTON AVENUE AND MAYBE TAKE OUT A DEAF HER DEAF SON. ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE THAT CHANCE? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE IN THE ROOM WERE AROUND WHEN TARGET TRIED TO BUILD A FACILITY WEST OF NORMAN DALE YEAH. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT KILLED THE PROJECT FINALLY I DO INACCURATE TRAFFIC STUDIES. THEY COULD NOT MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC AND THEY'D THEY WEREN'T HONEST AND FOR LEE PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND THE COUNCIL SAW SAW THE TRUTH FOR WHAT IT WAS AND SAID NO AND I URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME THING IT'S A BAD SITE. IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE. YOU'RE REDUCING GREEN SPACE. I MEAN CITY PARKS WE BRAG ABOUT OUR CITY PARKS AND IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A PARKING LOT. ARE YOU KIDDING? THEY TALKED ABOUT MOST EVERYTHING IS CODE COMPLIANT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME AS A RESIDENT IF MY HOME WAS MOSTLY CODE COMPLIANT? WOULD I BE IGNORED? WHAT I OH THAT'S OKAY, JEFF. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT FINE. MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAD A SHED IN THE BACK OF HIS LOT. YOU COULD YOU COULDN'T SEE IT UNLESS YOU WERE ON HIS PROPERTY. HE GOT A LETTER FROM THE CITY, SAID PAINT YOUR SHED OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FINE CODE COMPLIANT CODE COMPLIANT. MY NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE HAD A SMALL BRANCH OF THEIR TREE HANGING OVER THEIR HOUSE. THEY GOT A LETTER FROM THE CITY CUT DOWN THAT TREE OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FINE CODE COMPLIANT. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DRAW THE LINE AS TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO LIKE THIS TO OR ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF AND SEE THIS FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS . HELLO. I'M STILL DANNY AND YOU KNOW, CALL HIM A RESIDENT BLOOMINGTON. I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THE FIRST FOCUS GROUP I ATTENDED FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WAS EXACTLY A YEAR AGO WHEN THE CITY ENGAGED WITH TODD PART WHICH IS A GROUP OF PARENTS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND WE WERE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FOCUS GROUPS OVER THE LAST 9 TO 10 MONTHS WITH THEM AND THE VENDOR THAT IS WORKING ON THIS SITE I'VE ALSO BEEN ENGAGED IN MULTIPLE FOCUS GROUPS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES INCLUDING ONE YESTERDAY THAT IS THE FIRST FOCUS GROUP I'VE EVER BEEN TO TO TALK ABOUT 18 INCLUSION THAT HAD ACTUAL PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN THE ROOM BEING ASKED WHAT THEY NEED IN THE BUILDING AND THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE AND I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE BOTH AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW. THAT'S USUALLY THE GOLD STANDARD OF WHAT WE BEG TO HAVE AND THE CITY DID IT ON THEIR OWN TO MAKE SURE AND NOW THIS FACILITY WILL HAVE AN ADULT CHANGING TABLE AND HAVE A HOYER LIFT SOMETHING I'VE NEVER SEEN IN MY FACILITY LIKE THIS BEFORE TO HAVE CITY STAFF SAYING YES. SO WE TALKED TO THE ARCHITECT ABOUT A HOYER LIFT IS IT'S AN AMAZING LEVEL OF ATTENTION. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I KNOW YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT TRAFFIC OR TRAFFIC STUDIES AND HOW THAT GOES INTO IT. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL PLANNING AND VERY THOUGHTFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE THINGS THAT OTHER FACILITIES DO NOT HAVE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT INDOOR PLAYGROUND BEING AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND. THERE IS NO INDOOR THERE IS NO INDOOR INCLUSIVE PLAY SPACE ANYWHERE BETWEEN HERE AND ROCHESTER FOR ME MY KIDS TO PLAY WITH MY FRIEND'S KIDS SHE'S IN A WHEELCHAIR. WE HAVE TO DRIVE TO ROCHESTER FOR THAT. SHE COULD COME HERE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THERE ALL THE WAY AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T THE BEST PERFECT'S I HONESTLY WISH IT WAS INVALID YOU BECAUSE I COULD WALK THERE BUT IT'S NOT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE FIVE YEARS LATER AND YOU KNOW FROM THE ONLINE SURVEYS THAT I WAS ABLE TO SEND TO DISABILITY ADVOCATES ALL OVER THE STATE TO FILL OUT NOT ONLY IN BLOOMINGTON TO TALK ABOUT THE GOLD STANDARD TO THAT FOCUS GROUP THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY WHERE THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN COMMUNITY DAY PROGRAMS OUT IN OUR BUILDING EVERY SINGLE DAY SITTING THERE TELLING WHAT THEY NEED AND THAT'S PLACE TWO OF THE TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT. I REALLY THINK THAT THE CITY WANTS TO CREATE A PLACE THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT THOUGHT OF OR PLANNED FOR AND THESE YOU KNOW, IN THESE SORT OF PROJECTS AND I'M REALLY PROUD THAT THAT IS HAPPENING. IS IT PERFECT? NO, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE PERFECT BUT REALLY HONESTLY IF THERE'S AN ADULT CHANGING TABLE, A SQUARE LEFT, AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND WHERE SOMEBODY CAN YOU KNOW WHERE THERE'S PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND MOVING THE SENSORY ROOM SO IT'S IN A GOOD PLACE ALL OF THESE THINGS IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE MY FAMILY AND MY FRIENDS AND MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE MY COMMUNITY. I WORK VERY HARD IN THAT COMMUNITY FEELS WELCOME AND BLOOMINGTON WILL BE KNOWN FOR THAT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING THING. SO I WANTED TO THANK CITY STAFF AND THANK YOU ALL AND JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS REALLY, REALLY STRONG AND VERY I'M VERY PROUD OF IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU . I'M SORRY. YES, YOU MAY. SO AGAIN, ANDY, ALL 54 RESIDENTS BLOOMINGTON YEAH. SO REMEMBER OUR PRIOR PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE AND I LEFT OFF ON THE PREVENTION. I HOPE THAT THE THE COMMISSION HERE DOES A RESOUNDING NO TO THIS THIS ENTIRE THE PLANNING HAS BEEN BROKEN BUT SO AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE POOR PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN SHOWN IN THE ENTIRE PLAN AND I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IN THIS COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE RESIDENTS AND GUESTS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER WE PUT AT RISK ON CITY STREETS DUE TO TRAFFIC ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS. CITY CODE FOR TRAFFIC IS NOT BEING ADHERED TO AND THE TRAFFIC ON NEWTON WILL BE EVEN WORSE WHEN THE THIRD GYMNASIUM GETS ADDED IN MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN LESS SAFE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS RESIDENTS ARE BEING DISREGARDED AND THE CURRENT PARKING STUDY DONE BY THE CONSULTANT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE FUTURE EXPANSION. SO SPEAKING OF INCLUSIVITY, I THINK IT ONLY HAS LIKE 6 OR 8 HANDICAPPED PARKING SPOTS AND IF YOU LOOK AT NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY CENTERS AS FAR AS SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE COMMUNITY CENTERS THERE'S WAY MORE PARKING SPOTS JUST IN GENERAL I'M PER SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE ON THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY CENTER SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE MAKE NOTE OF THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF STALLS PER SQUARE FOOT. THERE IS A LOT MORE IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY CENTERS IN CONCLUSION, I HOPE THE ENTIRE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS NO TO THE TO THE SITE AND THE CURRENT REDUCED BUILDING SIZE. THE PLAN IS NOT AN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC GOALS IMPLEMENTED UNDER THE FORMER CITY MANAGER. THE PLAN DOES NOT PROTECT RESIDENTS OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING WHICH IS A VERY PURPOSE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITHOUT RESIDENTIAL ZONING PROTECTIONS NO RESIDENT THE CITY IS PROTECTED AGAINST PARK AND A TAKEOVER BY THE CITY AND PROTECTION OF GREEN SPACES AND MANY WILL MOVE ONCE THEY BECOME AWARE OF THAT. SO SO PLANNING COMMISSION OVERALL IF YOU LOOK AT CITY SURVEYS LOOKING AT HEAD COMMISSIONER HIMSELF, OUR COMMUNITY WANTS MORE GREEN SPACES JUST IN GENERAL, RIGHT? THIS SITE IS NOT THE RIGHT SITE. YOU KNOW PRESBYTERIAN HOMES WOULD BE GREAT. THEY WOULD LOVE TO SELL IT TO PRESBYTERIAN HOMES, PUT IT OVER AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX MAYBE FURTHER WEST OR SOMETHING THERE SITES AT THIS AND CAN GO ON TO THAT ARE MUCH BETTER FITTING YOU KNOW FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO IT WENT FROM 136,000 DOWN TO 106,000 BUT THE PROCESS AND BEEN REDUCED RATE OR TAXES HALF A PERCENT FOR 20 YEARS RIGHT THIS THING IS GOING TO GO OVER BUDGET TO MARK MY WORDS I'M SAYING IT HERE RIGHT NOW TO THE COMMUNITY IT WILL GO OVER BUDGET EVEN ON A SMALL SITE PRICES HAVE NOT GONE DOWN FOLKS. MAYBE PRICES OF LUMBER MATERIALS WILL GO DOWN IT IT'LL BE EVEN BETTER FOR US IF WE ACTUALLY WAIT GRAB SOME INTEREST ON THAT MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO SO I SAY STALL OUT. SAY NO TO THE COUNCIL RESIGNING? NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU . I GOT A BAD KNEE. MY NAME IS BRIAN EMERSON AGAIN NEIGHBOR HERE THE LADY THAT SPOKE ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE. I COULD JUST HAVE YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO NOBODY ELSE BUT JUST THE APPLICATION. OKAY THEN THIS IS A BAD NO, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD PROJECT. IT'S JUST THE WRONG LOCATION. IT SHOULD BE KILLED. IT SHOULD BE MOVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SHE'LL BE GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK HOLOCENE. I DIDN'T COME HERE PLANNING TO SPEAK BUT ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLAN IS THAT THE ONE OF THE MAIN ENTRANCES IS VERY CLOSE TO JONES PLACE AND WHERE THAT'S WHERE MY WIFE AND I RESIDE. I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY IS A SAYING MOVE THE SECOND ENTRANCE DOWN FURTHER BUT MY THINKING IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE THE PARKING IS, IF THE PARKING LOT IS FULL GOING WAY DOWN AND SOMEBODY IS COMING JONES PLACE IS GOING TO BE A SPOT TO LOOK TO SAY HEY, IT'S ONLY ACROSS THE STREET AND WE'RE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE RIGHT NOW. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE NO PARKING SIGNS ON JONES PLACE. MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T PLAN ON TALKING PAM PALMER. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR LIKE 70 YEARS. THERE'S SO MUCH TO SAY. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT FOR LIKE TEN YEARS BACK WHEN THEY HAD THE ORIGINAL TEAM THAT WAS PLANNING THINGS ALL THIS TIME LATER WE GET ALL THESE DESIGNS ,ALL THE FLOOR PLANS, ALL OF THAT, ALL PERFECT STUDY. LET'S JUST NOBODY IS ANSWERED WHY THAT WASN'T DONE BEFORE THE LOCATION WAS CHOSEN. I MEAN IT WAS GOING TO BE IN CITY HALL AT ONE POINT I WAS AGAINST VALLEY VIEW. I THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE. MORE ROOM THERE. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. WHY DO YOU GET ALL THIS DONE, SPEND ALL THIS MONEY AND THAT OH TRAFFIC AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO NEWTON AVENUE I WAS AGAINST PURCHASING ALL THOSE HOMES WASTING MONEY ON THAT TAKING THE TAX REVENUE OUT. BUT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THINGS. THAT WAS MY PERSPECTIVE THEN I MET THE NEIGHBORS THERE WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY THEIR HOUSE? WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO LIVE THERE? I FEEL SO BAD. PLEASE COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. AND IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT STUPID THIRD GYM MAYBE PEOPLE COULD GO OUT ON 92ND STREET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JENNY I'M SORRY MY DAD CALLS ME A SHOPPER AND I AM BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT. WHEN THE PROPOSAL FOR VALLEY VIEW WAS MADE IT WAS SAID THE POOL IS NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG AND THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY SAID YES IT WILL. WELL IT WAS SAID THAT THERE'S NO OTHER LOCATION THAT CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO THE SIZE THAT WE WANT IT AND PEOPLE SAID YES IT CAN. WELL I THINK THAT THE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THAT SPOT AND THERE REALLY IS NO BETTER SPOT AND HONESTLY I THINK IT WAS AN EQUITY ISSUE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH ON THE EAST SIDE AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER PLACE FOR A FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK TO IT WHERE PEOPLE DON'T DRIVE BUT THAT'S ANOTHER YOU KNOW, WE'RE DONE. WE CAN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE ANYMORE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. THERE REALLY ISN'T A BETTER SPOT. IT STINKS. DO I THINK THAT 90TH STREET WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER PLACE? YES. DO I THINK THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COULD ABSORB THIS MUCH TRAFFIC AND PARKING? ABSOLUTELY. WE SAID NO AS THIS AS A CITY AND WHEN WE SAID NO IT WAS SAID THEN CREEKSIDE IS THE SPOT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO HERE WE ARE 4 OR 5 YEARS LATER. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SCENARIO WHEN WHEN WE VOTED NO ON VALLEY VIEW. SO THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT. I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECT AND I DON'T LOVE IT BUT I DO THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES THIS AND I DO THINK THE COMMUNITY VOTED FOR IT SO THIS IS THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN NOW AND THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND I HATE IT. BUT HERE WE ARE CREEKSIDE IS NOT THE LOCATION THAT THIS SHOULD BE AT. THIS IS NOT THE LOCATION. IF YOU IF YOU PHYSICALLY GO THERE HAVE YOU PHYSICALLY GONE THERE? HAVE YOU SEEN IT? HAVE YOU BEEN DOWN NEWTON I LIVE ON NEWTON THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD INTO LIKE A CIRCUS. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON NEWTON. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON MORGAN THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HAVE GIDEON POND THERE. THERE'S SENIOR LIVING THERE ARE SENIORS THAT LIVE OVER THERE. IT IS GOING TO BE A ZOO. IT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE FOR US AND THIS IS GOING TO THIS IS A MEGA PROJECT IS LIKE GOING TO BE LIKE A LIFETIME FITNESS PROJECT. I CAN I CAN JUST SEE IT. I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY PROPOSED. IT LOOKS FABULOUS BUT NOT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A THIS IS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS NOT RIGHT. IT JUST IS NOT RIGHT. AND I CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING FROM ALL OVER. I MEAN IT IS GOING TO BE IT IS A MEGA-PROJECT IT'S GOING TO BE FABULOUS BUT NOT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. HI, I'M CHRISTINE AUSTIN AND MY FAMILY HAVE HAS LIVED ON JONES PLACE SINCE 1963. I WENT TO CREEKSIDE FOR A THIRD FOURTH GRADE. MY BROTHER WOULD RUN THE PAPER ROUTE AND THERE WAS ALWAYS AN ACCIDENT ON 98TH AND PENN. SO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC AT PEAK TIME IT IS INCREDIBLE GOING EASTBOUND AS WELL. I SEE THE THE LINE OF TRAFFIC GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN 98TH STREET. AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER FINALLY THEY HAVE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS WHICH ELIMINATED A GREAT DEAL OF ACCIDENTS BUT SO ANYWAY GETTING OFF OF PENN ON THE 98TH STREET THERE'S THAT ONE ELEMENT. YOU'RE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER. YOU'RE BEING CAUTIOUS. TRAFFIC IS COME RACING EAST DURING THAT PEAK TIME AND SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY MODIFICATION 98 BY NEWTON. YEAH TRAFFIC'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN WHICH WILL HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT DOWN 98TH STREET ONLY FOR THOSE CARS TO MEET THE NEXT LIGHT BY CITY HALL AND THEN THE ONE ON BY THE PARKING DOWN HERE AND THEN AN OLD SHARPIE. IT'S GOING TO DRIVE PEOPLE NUTS AND I THINK IT'S EMOTIONAL. THE TRAFFIC'S EMOTIONAL AND I THINK THAT REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT SERIOUSLY. WHAT KIND OF RIPPLE EFFECT WILL TAKE PLACE WITH THIS? THANK YOU . HI. I'M STILL ELIZABETH STILL LIVE ON NEWTON. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS LIKE I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WORTHY USE BUT THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC THAT TRAFFIC BRINGS IN FOR DIFFERENT AREAS. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SO LIKE THE EVEN IF THAT'S 600 CARS A DAY WAS ACCURATE WHICH IT'S NOT I'M HOME ALL DAY LONG WE DO NOT SEE 600 CARS A DAY ON OUR STREET. EVEN IF THAT WAS ACCURATE, THAT IS THE SAME PEOPLE GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT PRESBYTERIAN HOMES. IT'S AND IT'S THE ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. OKAY. OR RESIDENTS. SO I WANT YOU TO CONTRAST THAT WITH WHO'S COMING WITH THIS NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE SEEKING PUBLIC HEALTH. IT'S GOING TO BE AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING WITH TEEN CENTER ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE WE'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING HUGE THINGS LIKE SWIM MEETS OR LEGO CONVENTIONS. >> THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT. THERE WILL BE VERY FEW FEW REGULARS COMING UP AND DOWN OUR STREET. THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE AREA THAT ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHILDREN PLAYING THAT ARE ARE NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE NOT DRIVING IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'RE NOT AS CAREFUL I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. AND I ALSO WANT TO SHARE THAT I KIND OF ADDRESSED OR SPOKE TO IT EARLIER BUT YOU KNOW, I ONLY FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD I THINK IT WAS MARCH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE THOUGHT THIS TRAFFIC AND PARKING SITUATION WAS TAKEN CARE OF, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IT WAS A NO BRAINER. YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO BY EIGHT HOMES. THERE'S GOING TO BE TONS OF PARKING AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON NEWTON WAS JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. SO WHEN THE CITY FINALLY JUST PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH ME IN MARCH AND SAID OH, WE'RE NOT BUYING YOUR HOME, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO STAY AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE ACROSS FROM. I'VE HAD VERY LITTLE TIME TO KIND OF LIKE GET AHEAD OF IT OR GET WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT AND START DIGGING AND SAYING LIKE WELL WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ? I'VE ALSO TRIED TO REACH OUT TO SO MANY PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN NOT TO LISTENING SESSIONS, I'VE SENT COUNTLESS EMAILS. I'VE ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND HAD VERY VERY LITTLE RESPONSE FROM THE CITY. SO THAT JUST IN CASE YOU'RE ASKING LIKE WELL WHY NOW YOU KNOW THIS IS TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM DEMOLITION. IT'S A LITTLE LATE. WELL, THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT THE CITY PUT ME IN AND THAT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN KEPT IN THE DARK KIND OF LIKE THAT WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THANK YOU. THANKS . GOOD EVENING. HI. MY NAME IS BECKY BALDER, 27 YEAR RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON. I ALSO GREW UP HERE TOO. AND I JUST I WON'T GET INTO OPINIONS OR ANYTHING. I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION AND HAVE IT PARKED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. ARE GOOD ARE BEST FRIENDS ARE ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING COMPANY IN BLOOMINGTON AND THEY WANT TO KNOW HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY ON MEETING THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMEABILITY THAT YOU CANNOT PAVE OVER GREEN SPACE AND TAKE THIS MUCH GREEN SPACE OUT WITHOUT REPLACING IT ELSEWHERE? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LEGAL ATTENTION MET TO THE STATE PERMEABILITY REQUIREMENT BEFORE THIS PROJECT GOES ANY FURTHER. SO I I'M SORRY I DIDN'T READ THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE PARKED AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL COME TO THE NEXT MEETING AND ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU. MM HMM. SO ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY OR ANY OTHER TESTIFYING THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE COMPLETED THIS EVENING? MR. JOHNSON, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY TO THIS ITEM? NO ONE LINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LAST CALL FOR TESTIFYING THIS EVENING. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOLDING THIS OPEN DUE TO THE LACK OF NOTICING IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER HERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF BASED ON SOME TESTIMONY THEY'VE HEARD. AGAIN, I'LL STRESS TO THE COMMISSION THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS BUT WE'LL RESERVE ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 7TH. SO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OF MR. SCENARIO. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIMING A LITTLE BIT? A FEW FOLKS ASKED ABOUT THIS FEELS A LITTLE LATE FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY. IS A TYPICAL FOR THIS TO HAPPEN DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS? IS IT MORE COMMON FOR THAT TO HAPPEN ON THE FRONT END BEFORE A SITE IS SELECTED? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? AND I SEE BRIAN HANSON IS ALSO HERE. PERHAPS HE HAS MORE EXPERTISE ON THIS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS BRIAN HANSON DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AND ENGINEER. AND FOR THOSE YOU HAVEN'T MET BEFORE ME I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE PROCESS. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND HOW THAT GOES ABOUT SO A TRAFFIC STUDY IS INITIATED WITH A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AFTER THE PRE APPLICATION DISASTER DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE. SO ON APA DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION COMES BEFORE THE CITY. THE FIRST THING WE DO IS KIND OF HAVE A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANTS IN THIS CASE THEY CAME BEFORE THEY WROTE DOWN THE DATE HERE THE PRE-APPLICATION DRC MEETING WAS ON MARCH 18TH SO THE GREEN HEALTH ONE THE CENTER TEAM CAME BEFORE THE DRC PROVIDED COMMENTS AT THAT TIME THEY HAD A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. IT WAS SFF'S RECOMMENDATION A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PROVIDE A TRAFFIC AND PARKING STUDY TO BE DONE. SO THAT'S WHEN WE INITIATED THAT WORK THROUGH OUR THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT WE HIRED BOLTON AND THAT TRAFFIC STUDY KICKED OFF ON MARCH 31ST OF 2025. THE DRAFT STUDY WAS DONE BY MAY 5TH. THE FINAL STUDY WAS DONE ON MAY 16TH AND THEN THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AFTER THE INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY WAS COMPLETED THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY REVISED THE SITE PLAN PRIOR TO THEIR FORMAL APPLICATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE OUTCOMES FROM THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC STUDY FORHE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS THERE WAS NOT A CONNECTION EAST TO WEST ACROSS BETWEEN THE TWO PARKING FIELDS. SO THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE PARKING FIELDS ONE ACCESS FROM PENN, ONE ACCESS FROM NEWTON AVENUE. SO THEY DID REVISE THE PARKING PLAN OR THE SITE DESIGN EXCUSE ME BASED ON THE INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY AN ADDENDUM WAS DONE BY BOLTON AND BANK AND THAT IS ALSO BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS TONIGHT. SO WE CANNOT HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE OR ASK FOR TRAVEL TO BE DONE SO WE KNOW WHAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED. SO THE TIMING OF THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL OTHER DEVELOPMENT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY. THE SECOND QUESTION I WANTED TO ADDRESS WHILE I'M UP HERE IS THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING THE PERMEABILITY OR THE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS IS WITHIN THE NINE MILE CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT . WE ALSO HAVE SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. SO THOSE WILL BE REVIEWED AND THIS DOES NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH OF THOSE. PERMITTING IS REQUIRED FROM NINE MILE CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT PRIOR TO ANY CITY PERMITS BEING ISSUED. IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED I MOVE ON TO PERMITTING SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO ANSWERS. MR. JOHNSON AT YOUR COOKED IN IF I IF I CAN JUST ECHO WHAT BRIAN EXPRESSED IS THAT THE TIMING OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY IN THIS CASE IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WE EVER STAFF HAVE REVIEWED AND IT VERY MUCH IS A CHICKEN OR THE EGG PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT YOU CAN'T DO AN ACCURATE ANALYSIS OF THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE PARKING LOT WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRECISE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT DOWN TO THE PRECISE DETAILS OF THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE PROPOSED USES WITHIN IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT FRUSTRATION IF I CAN JUST EXPRESS THAT THIS THE TIMING OF THIS IS VERY TYPICAL FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS . THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON AND MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY PLEASE COMMENT REGARDING THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE RAISED REGARDING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY REGARDING ACCESS ON PENN AVENUE. SO I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO PARKING FIELDS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. WE DID RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THEM IN MAY IN WRITING AND THEY DID EXPRESS CONCERN WITH THE DRIVEWAY AS LOCATED ON JONES PLACE THAT THE THE US COMMITTEE TELLS THEM ON THIS THAT THE TEAM DID REVISE THE SITE PLAN. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY TO DISCUSS THAT ON JULY 16TH AND THEY DID SEND US SOME PRELIMINARY COMMENTS ON JULY 22ND JUST THIS PAST TUESDAY WHERE THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT DRIVEWAY AS SHOWN AS MIKE MENTIONED ADJACENT TO CROSS FROM JONES PLACE. BUT THEY WOULD BE RECEPTIVE TO HAVING THAT SHIFTING FURTHER SOUTH. SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE STILL ONGOING BUT THE ACCESS AT IVY LANE WOULD REMAIN REGARDLESS THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIMINATED. THE QUESTION AT HAND HERE IS THE SECOND ACCESS AND THE LOCATION OF THAT AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE TO HELP THEM ON THAT SIDE? THANK YOU, MR. HANSON. MR. JOHNSON IF I CAN REITERATE AND ECHO BRIAN'S COMMENTS AGAIN THAT THIS PROCESS IS VERY TYPICAL IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY ON ANY COUNTY FACILITY. SO WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD IS IN THE FORM OF A COUNTY ACCESS PERMIT AND THAT TYPICALLY IS NOT ISSUED UNTIL THE PROJECT GETS ZONING ENTITLEMENT AND IS READY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT EFFECTIVELY. AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND AGAIN THE FRUSTRATION AROUND THE MOVING TARGETS OF SOME OF THESE THINGS BUT I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT ALL THIS IS VERY TYPICAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PERMIT WOULD NEED TO BE IN PLACE OR THAT AGREEMENT WITH ANYONE COUNTY WOULD BE NEED TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION THE CITY CONSIDER CHAIR COOKSON THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. HANSON. MR. CENTENARI I DID WANT TO REFLECT ON ONE OTHER PIECE OF TESTIMONY WE HEARD FROM A FEW DIFFERENT FOLKS ABOUT SITE SIZE AND IS THE CITY COMFORTABLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROGRAMING THAT'S GOING INTO THE AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE? COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE MORE TO HOW THE BUILDING IS SIZED VERSUS HOW THE LOT IS IS AVAILABLE TO US THE CIRCUIT AND COMMISSIONERS? YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND ESSENTIALLY THE INTENSITY OF THE USE ON A GIVEN SITE AND WE ARE MINDFUL OF THAT AND WE DO ACTUALLY DO HAVE STANDARDS THAT REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY AND WE DO THAT THROUGH FLOOR AREA RATIO OR AIR AND THERE IS AN F FOR MAXIMUM FOR THIS TYPE OF USE AND IT'S .35. SO THE RATIO OF FLOOR AREA TO TOTAL SITE SIZE THE MAXIMUM IS .35 OF THE PROPOSED FSR OR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY IF YOU WILL IS 0.28. SO IT IS IT IS A CODE COMPLYING LEVEL OF BUILDING AND WE HAVE THESE CODES TO MANAGE THIS TYP OF ISSUE SO WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE B F R AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR.. SINCE VERY I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR MR. JOHNSON. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE PARK BOARD ON THIS DEVELOPMENT? YEAH CHAIR CHAIR COACH AND COMMISSIONERS IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I CERTAINLY WELCOME DEPUTY LEAH HUGHES VIEW ON IT TOO IF SHE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THEY ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS RELATED TO PARKS, ARTS AND RECREATION AND THE CITY ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS YOU KNOW, THE FIDUCIARY AUTHORITY OR THE FINANCIAL TO MAY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE FINANCIAL DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO FACILITIES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO I WOULD SAY SIMILAR TO YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING THEY ARE ACTING IN ADVISORY CAPACITY AND I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC DETAILS ABOUT THEIR REVIEW OF THE FACILITY. PERHAPS LEAH CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COMMISSIONER NICK JOHNSON IS CORRECT. THEY ARE A VOLUNTEER ADVISORY BOARD AND SO WITH THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT PROJECT IS IN THE PROCESS SOMETIMES IT'S A REVIEW AND COMMENT OR EDUCATION ONLY EXPERIENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE AS NICK MENTIONED CITY COUNCIL IS THE ULTIMATE FACTOR WHEN DECIDING ON SOME OF THE ASPECTS AND OTHER PRESENTATIONS WE WILL ASK THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PHASES OF WHAT THE PURPOSES OF THEIR INTERACTION BUT ULTIMATELY THEY ARE AN ADVISORY VOLUNTEER BOARD. THANK YOU. MS. YOU THANK YOU. IF I COULD MR. JOHNSON IF I CAN CLARIFY ONE THING IS THAT WHAT THE PARK BOARD IN COMPARISON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNDER CITY CODE AND AND STATE LAW YOU'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW THE ZONING ENTITLEMENTS AS PART OF THE CITY'S ESTABLISHED PROCESS AND CITY CODE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION POINT. THE MR. JOHNSON OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS HOW CAN I THANK YOU CHAIR HOW CAN RESIDENTS BE UPDATE OR YEAH BE UPDATED ON THE ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO THAT THE THE JONES DRIVE OUT THERE HAS TO BE MORE A CHAIR YEAH I MEAN CHAIR COMMISSIONERS MR. JONES FORGIVE ME CHAIR COMMISSIONER YOU SAY THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION SORRY MIKE DIDN'T MEAN TO JUMP THE GUN THERE BUT OF COURSE WE'LL CERTAINLY COLLECT CONTACT INFORMATION WITH INTERESTED PARTIES. WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG AND DEVELOPING YOU KNOW ALL THEIR RESOURCES AND THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND JUST ACCESS TO STAFF. I AM VERY PROUD TO WORK AT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE PROVIDE. YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S NOT EXCLUDING ANY INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE INTERACTION CERTAINLY BUT I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICE IN THAT REGARD. BUT CERTAINLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FOLKS TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS RELATED TO ACCESS AND TRAFFIC AND MITIGATION MEASURES AND THOSE THINGS THAT I AGREE. YEAH. THANK YOU AND MR. SO IF I COULD OFFER TWO THINGS THAT I HEARD THIS EVENING THAT ARE WORTH REITERATING ONE IS THAT THIS PROJECT COULD NOT BE BUILT IF WE DON'T GET THE AGREEMENT AND IF WE IF HENNEPIN COUNTY ULTIMATELY DENIES THAT AGREEMENT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PUBLIC PROCESS. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS OR BE UNSEEN IF IT'S NOT IF HENRY COUNTY ULTIMATELY DENIES THAT REQUEST, WE WOULD SEE THIS AGAIN WITH A REVISED PLAN. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THE PUBLIC. ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE WORKING ON HERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE APPLICATIONS YOU SAW HERE TONIGHT. THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT' WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON TONIGHT IS IS ARE THESE ITEMS AND WHAT YOU TOLD US AND I'VE MADE EXTENSIVE NOTES I'VE BEEN MUCH MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TAKE EXTENSIVE NOTES HERE AND YOUR TESTIMONY IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. THE SECOND THING IS JUST IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE ABOUT THE NOTICE OR THE LACK THEREOF IN THE NEWSPAPER TO BE ABLE TO WRAP THIS UP TONIGHT. NO ONE WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THIS DISCUSSION AND GIVE YOU ALL SOME FINAL ANSWERS MORE THAN US THIS EVENING AND SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS. WE FEEL THE SAME THERE'S THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION THAT WE CAN'T FINISH THIS. WE WOULD LIKE TO SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TO STAY TUNED WITH US AND FOLLOW ALONG ON AUGUST 7TH. THERE'S NOTHING STANDING IN OUR WAY THEN FROM FROM WRAPPING THIS UP AND HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSION AND ULTIMATELY TRYING TO REACH A DECISION. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO A FUTURE DATE. WITH THAT I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONER WHITE IN CASE NUMBER P.L. 2025-85I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE FORMAL ACTION OF THE APPLICATION UNTIL AUGUST THE AUGUST 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. >> SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN OF AUGUST 7TH 2025. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THEIR MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 7TH AND WE ANTICIPATED TO BECOME BOTH BACK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS WE ALLOW FOLKS TO EXIT THE CHAMBERS HERE, I AS THE CHAIR I'M GOING TO CALL A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO RETURN AT 853 AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE ARE BACK HERE AT CITY HALL AND READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS ITEM THAT IS NEW FOR THE YEAR OF 2025 I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. ACTING CHAIR WILL BE COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU . WELL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE WHICH IS A CITY CODE AMENDMENT FOR THE AIRPORT PARKING ORDINANCE. MR. CENTENARIO DO YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT? >> I DO. ACTING CHAIR CUNNINGHAM AND MR. CASSIDY IS GOING TO LEAD US OFF AND WE'LL WE'LL BOTH BE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. OH YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TEA AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM A LITTLE BIT JUST TO GIVE MAKE A BREAK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE OTHER ITEM SO. GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION. WE'RE JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE STUDY GOALS THAT WERE DONE RELATED TO REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING THAT WAS ALSO PRESENTED AT THE STUDY SESSION EARLIER IN JUNE I BELIEVE. AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF COVER SOME OF THE OUTREACH PROJECT BACKGROUND CONDITIONS, OUR POLICY DIRECTION WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE STUDIES FOR OUR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING STUDY INCLUDED UNDERSTANDING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND FUTURE INTEREST IN REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IN OUR COMMUNITY, DETERMINING THE APPROPRIATENESS AND COMPATIBILITY OF THOSE LOCATIONS, REVIEWING THE GUIDANCE OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ASSOCIATED PLANS THAT PERTAIN TO THIS USE. UNDERSTANDING HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES REGULATE AIRPORT PARKING AND DETERMINE HOW THE USE SHOULD BE REGULATED IN THE FUTURE. AND SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS WERE SUMMARIZED AT THE STUDY SESSION AND THEN BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL IN THE CITY COUNCIL IN THOSE FINDINGS KIND OF ALL HAVE COME TOGETHER IN THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU SEE PRESENTED TONIGHT. BUT AGAIN JUST TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE WE DID A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE KIND OF INVOLVED OR IMPACTED BY REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING ITHE CITY AS WELL AS CONNECTING TO SOME NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY IS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY HAVE REGULATED REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IN THEIR CITIES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PAGE THAT'S STILL LIVE AND THEY HAD PROJECT UPDATES THROUGHOUT FOR FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WAS INTERESTED THIS WAS JUST AGAIN PROJECT BACKGROUND AND TIMELINE FOR SOME OF OUR NEWER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL THAT THERE WAS AN AIRPORT PARKING MORATORIUM THAT WAS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024 THAT WENT INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 10TH AND THUS THAT MORATORIUM LASTS LASTS A YEAR AND EXPIRES THIS YEAR OCTOBER 10TH, 2025. SO THAT'S REALLY OUR DEADLINE TO MAKE SOME KIND OF RECOMMENDATION OR CHANGE IN THE CODE. BUT WE HAD OUR OUR STUDY KICK OFF WITH STAFF IN NOVEMBER 2020 FOR THEN WENT INTO OUTREACH AND CONNECTING WITH STAKEHOLDERS WAS DOING OUR DATA GATHERING FOR WINTER AND SPRING AND THEN WE PRESENTED A SESSION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY AND THEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE AND NOW WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN ALL OF THAT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HERE AND THEN I THINK GOES TO MR. CENTENARIO THANK YOU TACOMA. SO WE'RE GOING TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR STUDY SESSIONS. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT CONTEXT TO JUST REMIND FOLKS OF WHAT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ABOUT AND THERE ARE TWO REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. ONE IS PARKING. SO IT DOES HAVE SOME BASIC SUMMARY DATA ON THIS ON THIS SLIDE. BUT IT'S 12.5 ACRES, ABOUT 1500 PARKING STALLS ALL SURFACE AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEWER COMMISSIONERS REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING HAS BEEN A USE WITHIN THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THIS THIS FACILITY PARKING GO HAS BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 1992 AND SINCE THAT TIME IT'S BEEN OPERATING UNDER TEMPORARY APPROVALS. FIRST THEY WERE CALLED TEMPORARY CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS OR TEACUPS AND THEN THE CITY AMENDED ITS CODE TO ESTABLISH AN INTERIM USE PERMIT APPROVAL TYPE AND PROCESS AND IT'S BEEN OPERATING THROUGH EXTENSIONS TO THEIR IEPS. SO YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS STUDY WE REALIZED THAT THE IEP PROCESS ISN'T IDEAL AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A BETTER APPROACH TO AIRPORT PARKING GENERALLY THE OTHER REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY THAT WE HAVE IS THE PARKING SPOT BY PARKING FLY WE TEND TO JUST REFER TO IT AS PARKING FLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER 2.2 ACRES BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS MORE STALLS SURFACE STALLS BECAUSE THERE IS A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S ON THE SITE THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THEIR OPERATION AND A LITTLE BIT OLDER. THIS IS THE EARLIER REMOTE FACILITY IN OPERATION SINCE 1988 AND THEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1994. THERE WAS INTENDED TO BE AN OFFICE TOWER ON TOP OF IT BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT WAS NEVER BUILT AND GO OKAY, SO ESPECIALLY DURING OUR DATA GATHERING OUR OUTREACH TO STAKEHOLDERS AND IMPACTED PARTIES WE ESTABLISHED A NUMBER OF ZONING ALTERNATIVES AND THEY RANGE FROM THE PERMISSIVE MAKING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING A PERMITTED USE WHERE THERE'S FEW REGULATORY HURDLES TO ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM PROHIBITING IT AND INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ALLOWED AS AN INTERIM USE JUST OUTRIGHT PROHIBITING IT. AND SO NEITHER ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WAS OF WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND ULTIMATELY IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL THE APPROACH THAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND IT WAS CLEARLY COMMUNICATED THAT WE DO NOT WANT REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING TO PROLIFERATE. IT IS A USE THAT IS IS NEEDED GIVEN THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS WE BENEFIT FROM BEING NEAR AN AIRPORT BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LONG TERM VISION FOR THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT WHERE BOTH OF THE EXISTING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES ARE LOCATED AND SO ESSENTIALLY THE THE JOB WAS TO TRY TO FIND A BALANCE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. SO WHAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD DO WOULD ESTABLISH REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AS A CONDITIONAL USE MEANING A PERMANENT USE OR PERMIT RIGHTS TO OPERATE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IN TWO ZONING DISTRICTS. THAT IS THE SIX TWO DISTRICT AND THAT'S THE PARADIGM ONLY THE MALL OF AMERICA CAMPUS WITH A COUPLE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED SIX TWO AND THEN THE SIX ARE DISTRICT WHERE THE CURRENT REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES THEY'RE ZONED H X ARE IN THE SOUTH LOOP THAT'S WITHIN THE SOUTH OF NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE AND THERE ARE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. ONE IS SURFACE PARKING IS WOULD BE PERMITTED BUT THERE IS A COMPLIANCE DATE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM THREE ACRE AREA TO SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WHERE REMOTE AIRPORT REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD. SO WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF THE LOCATION OF DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO CITY STREETS AND CITY TRANSIT FACILITIES. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE STUDY SESSIONS WAS SHOULD WE REQUIRE ALL REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING TO BE IN PARKING STRUCTURES? AND ULTIMATELY WE CONCLUDED THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE OR BEST POLICY APPROACH AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT'S REASONABLE IN TERMS OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE CHANGES TO A LAND USE THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 30 YEARS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH A COMPROMISE ALLOWING PERMANENT REMOTE AREA PARKING TO EXIST THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ALLOWING SURFACE PARKING TO CONTINUE BUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST SOME LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN IMPLEMENT THE VISION OF THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT PLAN . AND SO THE MECHANICS OF THAT ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AREAS IN THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IS NOW WOULD BE NOW A CONDITIONAL USE ON THE RIGHT IN THE USE TABLE IN THE C TWO DISTRICT BECAUSE THE FORMATTING IS DIFFERENT YOU SEE A C A STANDS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SO THAT'S A THAT'S THE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ANALYSIS AND AN ORDINANCE. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE CHANGE. SO ONE OF THE MAIN OF INTERVENTIONS IF YOU WILL FOR THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE AND WE FELT IT IS IT IS VITAL TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD. BUT TRY TO HAVE PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT WHERE THESE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES ARE. THEY'RE THE BEST SERVED BY TRANSIT AND OUR VISION FOR THE SOUTH DISTRICT IS NOT FOR IT TO BE ENTIRELY REMOTE HERE FOR PARKING. SO WE FELT THIS WAS A REASONABLE COMPROMISE TO PROPOSE FOR ADOPTION AND ESSENTIALLY IT IS A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES AND THREE ACRES IS VERY DELIBERATELY OF CHOSEN AND I'LL I'LL SHOW YOU WHY IN A MOMENT BUT WE DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SCREENING SO THERE IS A CLEAR SEPARATION OR A VISIBLE BARRIER BETWEEN REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND PRESUMABLY SOME OTHER USE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES. AND WE ALSO GOING BACK TO THIS A PRAGMATIC APPROACH THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TIME IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING A COMPLIANCE DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 31ST 29 EXCUSE ME. AND SO IN THE PREVIOUS IMAGE I HAD A JUST THE READ AREA WAS OF WHAT SEEMED TO BE A GOOD CHOICE FOR DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE AREA. IT WAS ABOUT THREE ACRES AND HERE IS THAT SAME APPROACH FOR THE PARKING GO SITE AGAIN MINIMUM THREE ACRES THERE HAS TO BE SOME SCREENING BETWEEN THE USES AND WE HAVE A COMPLIANCE DEADLINE AND AGAIN THE THREE ACRES WAS VERY DELIBERATE DELIBERATE SO ON THE LEFT YOU SEE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY FOR THE PARKING FLY SITE AND THIS IS UNDER THE INTERVIEWS PERMIT PROCESS WHERE WE HAD DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES WHERE THE IDEA WAS TO REDEVELOP OVER TIME AND THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT WAS DESIGNED AND APPROVED AND WAS ALMOST CONSTRUCTED BUT THINGS TOOK A TURN AND THAT SITE IS RIGHT AROUND THREE ACRES THE PARKING GO FACILITY HAS PRODUCED CONCEPT PLANS OF HOW THERE COULD BE SOME REDEVELOPMENT WITH PERMANENT REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING THAT CONCEPT DRAWINGS ON THE RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL USE ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND THEN OTHER DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH THE RED BOXED AREA AGAIN IS ABOUT THREE ACRES. WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE TWO FACILITIES AREN'T THE ONLY TWO FACILITIES I WANT TO BE IN OPERATION. WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE MALL OF AMERICA WHO WANTS TO ESTABLISH A REMOTE OPEN PARKING FACILITY IN THE EAST RAMP AND ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S INTERESTED IN ESTABLISHING A MUCH SMALLER FACILITY WITHIN AN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE. SO AGAIN TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES IF THERE'S A MARKET DESIRE BUT THEN ALSO LIMITING THE PROLIFERATION OF WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PARKING USE WE FELT LIKE WE STRUCK THAT BALANCE WITH ALLOWING REMOTE PARKING IN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURES WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS AND DETERMINING THE AMOUNT OF PARKING WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION. WE WANT SOME DATA TO SUPPORT WHAT IT IS THAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SUPPLY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I'LL KIND OF WRAP UP ON THIS PIECE OF THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS ORDINANCE ALSO LOOKS AT HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING. SO NOT JUST THE REMOTE OR PERFECT PARKING FACILITIES THAT WERE COVERED BUT ALSO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AT HOTELS IN THE CITY SO VERY SIMILAR. WE PRESENTED KIND OF A RANGE OF ZONING ALTERNATIVES ALL THE WAY FROM BEING PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE WITH SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO A PROHIBITED USE AND KIND OF BASED ON DISCUSSION AT THE STUDY SESSIONS AND KIND OF STAFF'S INTERPRETATION OF THAT BLOOMINGTON AS A LOT OF HOTELS WERE ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT WE HAVE TOURIST FACILITIES LIKE THE MALL OF AMERICA SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HOTEL ROOMS AND A LOT OF THOSE HOTELS OFFER SOME KIND OF HOTEL PARKING AS AN AMENITY FOR STAYING AT THEIR HOTEL. AND SO WE FELT LIKE PROHIBITING THAT WOULD KIND OF BE COULD A DETRIMENTAL TO THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY IN BLOOMINGTON THAT WE DO RELY ON AND IN CURRENTLY IN CODE IT'S ALLOWED AS A CONDITIONAL ACCESSORY USE SO IT DOES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. HOWEVER FOR MANY HOTELS CURRENTLY OPERATE HOTEL PARKING WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. HOWEVER WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF THAT DO ENFORCEMENT HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LOT OF ISSUES OR COMPLAINTS AND SO WE FELT LIKE KIND OF KEEPING IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO MAKE SURE THE HOTEL OPERATION IS THE PRIMARY USE ON THAT SITE. BUT REMOVING THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THEN A TRADE OFF ESTABLISHING SOME CLEAR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IF THERE WERE TO BE AN ISSUE THAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF CAN ENFORCE THAT AND MAKE SURE AND AND REALLY THE PRIMARY THING IS IS ACCESS MAKING SURE THERE'S THE FIRE LANES ARE ACCESSIBLE AND THEN AGAIN MAKING SURE IT'S PARKED ON AN ADEQUATE SURFACE AND NOT BEING PARKED IN THE GRASS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD PROPOSE TO ESTABLISH HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE HOTELS ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED AND THEN MODIFIES THOSE PARKING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S TRULY ACCESSORY TO THE HOTEL USE. SO WHAT DOES THAT KIND OF LOOK LIKE? WE HAVE IN SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING IS DESIGNATED IN PARKING AREAS AND IS ON THE SAME PROPERTY AS THE HOTEL. SO IT KIND OF SIMILAR TO REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A PROLIFERATION PROLIFERATION OF HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING WHERE MAYBE THERE'S A VACANT SITE OR SOMETHING NEXT TO A HOTEL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE SEE MORE CARS BEING PARKED THERE HAS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY OF THE HOTEL. ANOTHER FACTOR AT PLAY TO KEEP IT ACCESSORY IS ALSO OUR CODE ACTUALLY ALREADY ESTABLISHED A MAXIMUM PARKING STANDARD SO WE WOULD KEEP THAT. BUT THEN IN ADDITION THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ESTABLISH A PARKING MAXIMUM FOR HOTEL PARKING OVERALL SO TO ENSURE THAT THE HOTEL PARKING ANY ASSOCIATED BANQUET OR CONFERENCE CENTER PARKING AND HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING DOESN'T EXCEED 120% OF WHAT THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS. THE OTHER KEY PERFORMANCE STANDARD IS TO INCLUDE ONE OVERNIGHT STAY TO ENSURE THAT THE HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING IS BEING USED BY HOTEL GUESTS WITHOUT THAT REQUIREMENT OF OVERNIGHT STAY STAFF WOULD INTERPRET IT THAT THAT MEETS OUR DEFINITION OF A REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY WHICH WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED AT THE HOTEL. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THOSE MECHANISMS IN PLAY TO ENSURE AGAIN THAT IT'S AN ACCESSORY USE AND THAT THE HOTEL IS THE PRIMARY USE ON THAT ON THAT PROPERTY. SO WITH THAT WE HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION AGAIN KIND OF DUE TO THE NOTICING ERROR IN THE NEWSPAPER TO CONTINUE THIS TO AUGUST 7TH. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANKS. THANK YOU. PLANNING SUPERVISOR GUEST TODAY AND SINCE SCENARIO ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER LONNIE GREAT THANK YOU CHAIR ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AND THAT IS ON THE SET ASIDE JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY IS THE INTENTION THAT THE OPERATOR WOULD BE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT OR THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO THE DEVELOPMENT AND AS A COROLLARY TO THAT, IF IT IS THAT THEY ARE THE THAT OPERATE THE DEVELOPER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO SELL THE THREE ACRES IN LIEU OF HAVING THE THREE ACRES THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING? COMMISSIONERS GREAT QUESTIONS AND THERE THE ANSWER IS YES TO A LOT OF THOSE STATEMENTS. SO WE WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE ON HOW THIS GETS IMPLEMENTED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. CERTAINLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD ACT AS A DEVELOPER OR THEY COULD FIND A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER OR THEY COULD SELL SPLIT OFF THREE ACRES AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY CODE. YOU KNOW DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS MIGHT WORK BUT DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND OUR GOAL IS TO SEE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ON EACH OF THESE SITES. HOW WE GET TO THAT WE WE WANT TO BE FLEXIBLE WHERE WE CAN COMMISSIONER WE THANK YOU. CHAIR JUST A QUICK QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION NOT BEING AN ATTORNEY I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE FOR 421 .302.41 REMOTE PARKING AIRPORT PARKING AND HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING AND IT'S GOT LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT SAYS THAT REMOTE PARK AIRPORT PARKING MUST BE LOCATED ENTIRELY WITHIN A PARKING STRUCTURE IN EXISTENCE AS OF AUGUST 25TH, 2025 THAT IS DETERMINED TO HAVE ACCESS OFF STREET PARKING SUPPLY. SO IT'S SECTION SIX SUBSECTION ONE AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY I ASSUME THAT THE THE REASON FOR PUTTING A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S IN EXISTENCE AS OF THIS YOU KNOW, COMING MONTH WOULD BE TO AVOID PEOPLE THROWING UP PARKING STRUCTURES TO USE FOR AIRPORT PARKING COMMISSIONERS IN SHORT YEAH THAT THAT IS THAT IS THE MAIN REASON YOU KNOW STRUCTURE PARKING IS INCREDIBLY COSTLY BUT FACTORS MAY CHANGE WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE FOR JUST STRICTLY FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE TO BUILD PARKING RAMPS SOLELY FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING. WE ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT CONCEPT. THAT SAID, WE DID WANT TO MAKE SOME LEVEL OF ALLOWANCE TO UTILIZE UNDERUTILIZED PARKING SUPPLY FOR A DIFFERENT USE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MUNSTER COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE THREE ACRE SET ASIDE THAT WAS JUST UP THERE? YEAH, THIS IS SO JUST AS A AS A CLARIFICATION IN MY MIND. SO LET'S SAY THESE FOLKS SET ASIDE THESE THREE ACRES. WOULD WE ALLOW THEM VIA THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS TO BUILD STRUCTURED PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT SITE? COMMISSIONERS THE ANSWER IS YES. YES. SO AGAIN, TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE THREE ACRE SITE WOULD NOT ACCOMMODATE PARKING. IT'D HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING ELSE CONSISTENT WITH OUR ZONING STANDARDS. SO IN ORDER TO REPLACE THOSE STALLS AND EVEN EXPAND BEYOND THE SUPPLY THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THEM FROM BUILDING A PARKING STRUCTURE FOR ADDITIONAL STALLS TO YOU KNOW, TO MEET THE THERE'S I'M SURE THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN COST AND THE REVENUE THAT THEY RECEIVE AND WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO THAT. BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS AND EXPAND THANKS. COMMISSIONER A THANK YOU CHAIR ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER LINNEY ASKED THE EXACT QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK PROBABLY BETTER THAN I WOULD HAVE ASKED SO BUT A FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS IS THERE MAYBE THIS IS KIND OF ASKING EARLY BUT WOULD THERE POSSIBLY BE ANY INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS OR IS ONCE LIKE ON THE THREE ACRE LOT POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS? YEAH. AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THAT THAT SURE COMMISSIONERS THERE THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE INCENTIVES TO FOR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS BUT YOU KNOW WE WE REVIEW THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE IS GREATER LEVELS OF DEEPER AFFORDABILITY FOR HOUSING FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MIGHT BE A REASON FOR THE CITY TO TRY AND INVEST IN THAT PROJECT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT IT'S THERE ISN'T OKAY. SO IT IS IT REALLY IS A CASE BY CASE REVIEW. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT IS YOU KNOW, MY CHAIR IS THE PAST PROJECT THAT FELL THROUGH WHAT IS THE HISTORIC WATERFALL THROUGH? SURE COMMISSIONERS YEAH. SO IT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING BUT THEY TO THE CREDIT THE DEVELOPER THEY PRODUCED PLANS FOR A REALLY ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF AND THEY THROUGHOUT THE TIME THE MONEY TO PRODUCE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED AT THAT TIME WE HAD A PANDEMIC AND THE CONTRACTOR COULD NOT PROVIDE A MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE PROJECT. THEY WOULD NOT PROVIDE A MAXIMUM PRICE AND THE DEVELOPER WAS JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST. SO IT'S DISAPPOINTING BUT THAT'S IT WASN'T IT DIDN'T GET BUILT AND YEAH I WISH I WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL. YEAH JUST OVERALL I'M IN SUPPORT OF BOTH THE OH SORRY I THINK I JUMPED THE GUN THERE. GO AHEAD CHAIR THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. YOU SAY AGAIN THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME IS FOR QUESTIONS ONLY OPINIONS SO FOR THE NEXT MEETING ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FISHER MONSTER AND JUST JUST ONE MORE QUESTION AND ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE STRUCTURED PARKING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT TO SUPPORT AN OFFICE TOWER IF THE OPERATOR WANTED TO DESIGNATE VERTICALLY ABOVE THAT PARKING STRUCTURE WOULD THAT MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE? IT WOULDN'T MEET THE THREE ACRES OBVIOUSLY, BUT WOULD THERE BE A WAY FOR THAT TO MEET THE INTENT OF WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED? COMMISSIONER DO YOU MEAN IF THEY DEVELOPED LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING ON THE TOP OF THE IF THEY PUT HOUSING ABOVE IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS BUILT TO SUPPORT MORE ABOVE IT SO THEY COULD GO VERTICAL OR COMMISSIONERS OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT WAS AN INTERESTING IDEA AND CERTAINLY WOULD BE A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE FOR MEETING THE REQUIREMENT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CODE AMENDMENT OR EXCUSE ME CITY CODE AMENDMENT. SO WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM ? PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE WISHING TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO ONE ON ONE. THANKS KAREEM. THANK YOU. WELL WITH WITH THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION SHOW IT IN CASE NUMBER PL 2025-89I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE FORMAL ACTION ON THE APPLICATION UNTIL THE AUGUST 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX OR EXCUSE ME OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THIS ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE AUGUST 7TH 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN THESE CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR COTTON IS RETURNING . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS OUR IS IT OUR POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE? ACTUALLY WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 10TH TO HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR THE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 10TH SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 10TH 2025. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO WE WILL THEN MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATE MR. JOHNSON YEAH THANK YOU CHAIR COOKED AND BEFORE I PREVIEW SOME UPCOMING MEETINGS AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND THE QUESTIONS. THANKS TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS BEFORE I PREVIEWED THE NEXT UPCOMING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE TO MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE DILLON PALMER AND OWEN DILLON IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND OVER THERE. DYLAN IS A NEW PLANNER ON OUR TEAM. HE STARTED THREE WEEKS AGO. I MOVED HERE FROM THE VIRGINIA AREA TO JOIN US HERE IN BLOOMINGTON SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT BLOOMINGTON IS ATTRACTING TALENT FROM ACROSS THESE UNITED STATES TO JOIN US HERE AND IN OUR PURSUIT OF CREATING AN EXCELLENT COMMUNITY. SO THANKS TO DILLON FOR JOINING US. AND I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE INDIA, OBAMA INDIA SHE'S BEEN OUR BLOOMINGTON HERE FOR THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER AND SHE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB HELPING ALL OF OUR PLANNING COLLEAGUES WITHIN ASSORTMENT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND TASKS. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM BOTH AND THANK THEM FOR JOINING US HERE AT THE MEETING THIS EVENING. SO LOOKING AHEAD TO YOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS, THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE THREE ITEMS FROM THIS EVENING WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A VARIANCE APPLICATION THAT IS GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU . IT IS TO REDUCE PARKING AND SIGN SETBACKS RELATED TO A SITE ALONG 494 RELATING TO ONGOING 494 CONSTRUCTION IN ADDITION TO THAT WELL I SHOULD SAY LET ME MOVE ON TO AUGUST 14TH FORGIVE ME I GUESS 14TH THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN UPDATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE DISTRICT PLAN UPDATE DOCUMENT WILL BE BEFORE YOU VIA PUBLIC HEARING . WE'RE ALSO PLANNING A POTENTIAL STUDY ITEM AT THAT MEETING TO INCLUDE A REVIEW OF THE CITY'S REFUSE AND RECYCLING STANDARDS. IT'S A PHASE TWO OF THE CITY'S SMALL BUSINESS ORDINANCE PROJECT THAT WAS DECOUPLED FROM THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK THAT BEFORE YOU. CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 14TH. AND THEN I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS AND IN TERMS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PREPARING FOR THESE BUT WE WILL HAVE OUR ANNUAL REVIEW OF OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. SO CERTAINLY THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THE RULES PROCEDURE THAT GOVERN HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTS PUBLIC HEARINGS ELECTS OFFICERS, OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE WILL BE THE ELECTION OF ANNUAL ELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICERS. SO WE'LL HOLD AN ELECTION FOR BOTH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR POSITION AT THE AUGUST 14TH MEETING AUGUST 28TH. JUST LOOKING AHEAD TO THE END OF THE MONTH WE ARE PLANNING TO STUDY ITEMS. ONE IS THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING PHASE TWO STUDY SESSION SO ADDITIONAL ZONING AMENDMENTS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL USES AND SITES AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE AND STUDY SESSION FOR POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE TO INCENTIVIZE MORE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC ART IN DEVELOPMENT SITES. SO LOOKING AT STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO SCULPTURES OR OTHER FORMS OF ART MURALS AND THE LIKE. SO THAT IS MY UPDATE AND THANKS AGAIN FOR THE DILIGENT AND LONG MEETING. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE ANY TOPICS YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS EVENING? COMMISSIONER I'M NOT A TOPIC JUST A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. SO WHEN AN ITEM WHEN SOMETHING CARRIES OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING DOES THE PRESENTATION HAPPEN AGAIN OR WE JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION AND MAYBE A REDUCED FORM OF THAT PRESENTATION BUT THERE WILL BE A STAFF PRESENTATION IF I CAN ECHO THAT. THANKS CHAIR I WOULD BE A SUMMARY. IN ADDITION TO THAT STAFF WILL CERTAINLY REVIEW THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THAT WAS RECEIVED TONIGHT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE FELT WERE UNADDRESSED BY OUR PRESENTATION OR BY THE Q&A SESSION WE CERTAINLY WOULD BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL. JUST TO CLOSE THAT LOOP AND IF THERE'S ANYONE WATCHING AT HOME WHO IS INCLINED TO TESTIFY AGAIN THAT PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN FOR ALL THREE OF OUR FIRST APPLICATIONS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN US HERE AT CITY HALL ON AUGUST 7TH TO PROVIDE THAT TESTIMONY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS THIS EVENING SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES THIS JULY 24TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. >> GOODNIGHT