. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE TO MY INTERIM AIDE SARAH VAUGHNA. A USF RISING SENIOR AND NAVARRO RISING SENIOR. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. BRANDON, MY WONDERFUL AIDE, WILL BE OUT FOR A MONTH SPENDING TIME WITH MERE WONDERFUL FAMILY AND DARSH WILL BE COVERING. AND INTRODUCE HER. >> HELLO, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS DARSH. I USE THEY, THEM PRONOUNS AND HONOR TO SERVE AS TEMPORARY AIDE TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND MY FIRST TIME WORKING IN GOVERNMENT AND EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS BE THE FIRST TO KICK START MY CAREER IN PUBLIC POLICY. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT ARE YOU MAJORING IN. >> ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND FOOD SOVEREIGNTY AND WORK IN FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW REST THIS MOMENT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS ITEM NUMBER 69. CHIEF. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY AND THE TIME CERTAIN. WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. I AM PROUD TO PRESENT THE OUTCOMES AND FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES GUIDED BY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN A BLUEPRINT PROPER PROGRESS THAT ENSURES THAT WE DON'T JUST RESPOND TO THE PRESENT, BUT WE CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY SHAPE THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN TAMPA AND ACROSS THE NATION. SO REAL QUICK TODAY. I WILL HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS. WE WILL OF HOW WE ACHIEVE HISTORIC WITH NONCRIME. AND HOW OUR AGENCY IS THE FIRST BIG-SIZED NATION TO PILOT AI INCLUDING POLICY CHAT I WILL GO INTO LATER AND LANGUAGE ASSISTANCE TRANSLATION. WE WILL LOOK INTO OUR FUTURE TRAINING WITH OUR VIRTUAL REALITY TRAINING. AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF OUR COMMUNITY INITIATIVES, OUR P.A.L. TPD GRANT AND OUR COMMUNITY CHUTES PROJECT. AND WE WILL ALSO ANNOUNCE HERE TODAY A NEW RECRUITMENT BONUS WE ARE DOING FOR OUT-OF-STATE OFFICERS AND AN INCREASE IN OUR POLICE RECRUIT SCHOLARSHIP PAY. AND, ALSO, OUR COMPREHENSIVE WELLNESS PROGRAM. SO WITH THE STRONG PUBLIC SUPPORT AND CITY LEADERSHIP, TAMPA POLICE HAVE SHOWN THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY ONE OF THE SAFEST MAJOR CITIES OUR SIZE, WE ARE ONE OF THE MOST FORWARD-THINKING AND COMMUNITY-CONNECTED AS WELL. THIS REPORT WILL CELEBRATE THE HISTORIC EFFORTS OF OUR OFFICERS, OUR PROGRESS AND OUR VISION LOOKING FORWARD. SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AS YOU ALTHOUGH, LAST YEAR WAS A YEAR OF RESILIENCY FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND OUR OFFICERS AS WELL. WE HAD ANSWERED OVER 15,000 CALLS AND PERFORMED OVER 150 RESCUES AND DISTRIBUTED THOUSANDS OF MEALS AND WATER BOTTLES. AND THAT'S WHILE OUR OFFICERS WERE IMPACTED THEMSELVES DIRECTLY. YOU MAY BE AWARE AFTER THE FIRST STORM, WE HAD 11 OFFICERS TO LOSE THEIR HOMES, BUT YET STILL CAME IN HERE TO ANSWER THE CALL FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EASY TOE DO. PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION DON'T HAVE OFFICERS THAT HAVE THE DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE AND COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY LIKE TAMPA DOES. IN ADDITION, IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT, WE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED OUR RESILIENCY HERE IN OUR CRIME REDUCTION. YOU MAY RECALL FROM LAST YEAR, WE TALKED OF A NEW PROGRAM WE GOT CALLED SPIDER TECH AND SENT SURVEYS OUT TO OFFICERS, TO THE CALLS THAT THE OFFICERS GO TO. AND WE WERE PROUD TO GET A 4.5 RATING OUT YOU HAVE FIVE STARS, WHICH IS, TO ME, UNBELIEVABLE. I MEAN SOMETIMES WHEN I SEE THESE, I AM JUST AMAZED AT PEOPLE TAKING THE TIME OUT TO WRITE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR OFFICERS AND THE THINGS THEY TO DO HELP. SO MOVING INTO THE NEXT SLIDE IS CRIME REDUCTION. THE CLIENT IN TOTAL CRIME WAS 14.8%. OUR VIOLENT CRIME LAST YEAR WAS DOWN 8.4%. WHICH OUTPACED THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. TAMPA'S REDUCTION VIOLENT CRIME WAS DOUBLED THAT OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. NONFATAL SHOOTING DECREASED BY 27%. HOMICIDES LAST YEAR DROPPED BY 10%. FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR DOWN 40%. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO YEARS COMBINED FROM '22-'24, 15% DECREASE IN OVERALL VIOLENT CRIME AND NEARLY A 30% DECREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME INVOLVING A FIREARM. THIS IS DUE TOTS RESULTS OF OUR HARD-WORKING OFFICERS OUT THERE. THEY HAVE AN UNPRECEDENTED SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN MANY OF OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH CEREMONIES HIGHLIGHTING THAT AND OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND VALUABLE TOOLS THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. SHOT SPOTTER HELPS OUR OFFICERS FOR REDUCE CRIME AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. PROPERTY CRIME WAS ALSO DOWN LAST YEAR, ALMOST 17% AND WE HAD ALMOST A 28% DROP IN AUTO BUR BURGLARIES AND 25% OF REDUCTION OF FIREARMS STOLEN FROM VEHICLES AND THAT IS HUGE. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LISTENING. WE ARE OUT THERE TALKING SAYING DON'T LEAVE YOUR GUN IN THE CAR. DON'T LEAVE YOUR CAR UNLOCKED. IT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE 25% LESS FIREARMS STOLEN LAST YEAR OUT YOU HAVE CARS COMPARED TO 2023. FARMS RECOVERED LAST YEAR. WE STILL DID RECOVER 1700 FIREARMS IN 2024. AND THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, I TALKED ABOUT OUR HOMICIDES BEING DOWN 40%. TOTAL VIOLENT CRIME WAS DOWN 22%. AND WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A MAJOR CITY SURVEY FROM ACROSS THE NATION, THE FIRST QUARTER, AVERAGE WAS 14%. SO, AGAIN, WE ARE ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN REDUCING OUR VIOLENT CRIME. ONE OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT REALLY ASSIST US WITH OUR GUN CRIMES WAS PROJECT LOCKED AND UNLOADED. HE EXPANDEDED THIS PROGRAM LAST YEAR TO ADD IN FOUR LIBRARY LOCATION WHERE IS EVERYBODY CAN WALK UP AND GET A GUNLOCK FREE. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. THAT MADE A HUGE DIVIDENDS. WE GAVE OUT ALMOST 300 GUNLOCKS WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAND THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION OVER TOE ASSISTANT CHIEF OWEN WHO WILL GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY POLICING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. AS YOU ALL KNOW, DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON RETIRED EARLIER THIS YEAR. AFTER HIS RETIREMENTS, WE EXPANDED COMMUNITY OUTREACH UNDER MAYOR AND CAPTAIN HILL. DID AN AMAZING JOB OF IMPROVING VISION AND EXPANDING OUR PROGRAMS. COMMUNITY CHUTE CLOSET HANDED OUT 137 PAIRS OF SHOES TO FAMILIES IN NEED. ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH JUST THE RICH HOUSE AND P.A.L. THEY ARE NOW IN ALL THREE OF OUR DISTRICTS AS WELL. SO OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS. THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE. WE SERVED OVER 500 KIDS IN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS, SPORTS AND SUMMER PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE STEM AND READING. WEER INNED WITH THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING WITH FIELD HOCKEY. THEY LEFT EQUIPMENT SO WE CAN CARRY THAT PROGRAM ON IN THE FUTURE. BUCCANEERS AND BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS MENTOR AND DONATIONS FOR US. DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE OFFERED GOLF FOR THE FIRST TIME AT FIRST TEE THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. WE HAVE 100 KIDS SIGNED UP FOR A FISHING CLINIC THIS SATURDAY. THEY WILL RECEIVE FISHING POLES, TACKLE BOXES AND TRAINING FROM SEVERAL LOCAL FISHING GUIDES, FISH AND WILDLIFE AND TPD OFFICERS. STARTING THIS SUMMER, OFFER MIDDLE SCHOOL BASKETBALL LEAGUE, RECEIVE A GRANT THROUGH USA FOOTBALL THROUGH SUMMER TRAINING. WORKING ON PARTNERING WITH POP WARNER WITH THE 13U PROGRAM. MINECRAFT CODING. FIRST TIME OFFERED THIS SUMMER. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 180 KIDS SIGNED UP FOR OUR SUMMER PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION, WE PARTNER WITH PARKS AND REC FOR OUR STAY AND PLAY PROGRAM AND A GRANT OF $280,000 TO ASSIST WITH THAT AND THE SAFETY OUTREACH. THANKS TO THE SUGGESTION OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE OFFER MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL THE WEEK OF SPRING BREAK. WE ARE PLANNING TO CARRY THAT ON THIS SUMMER AS WELL. THE POLICE EXPLORERS PARTICIPATE IN 165 EVENTS ACROSS THE CITY AND PLACED FIFTH IN A STATEWIDE COMPETITION. WE HAD A THIRD-PLACE FINISH IN THE SHARPSHOOTER. FEMALE PHYSICAL AGILITY FENCE WAS FIRST-PLACE FINISH. BICYCLE OPERATIONS, FIRST AND SECOND PLACE. MAIL OPERATIONS, FIFTH AND THIRD. THIRD PLACE IN COLOR GUARD CRIME SCENE AND THIRD PLACE IN TRAFFIC STOP SCENARIOS APPEAR GREAT JOB BY OUR YOUTH. SHIELDING OUR YOUTH, RESUME SKILLS AND CONCLUDES WITH A JOB FAIR. TPD CARES, 35,000 TO EIGHT ORGANIZATIONS. THIS YEAR 145,000 AND TEN ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH FOR IF FUTURE FUNDS TAKEN THROUGH ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. OUR RECRUITING. AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, WE HAVE INCREASED OUR BASE PAY FOR POLICE RECRUETS FROM $19 TO $30 AN HOUR. HELPS US MAINTAIN OUR COMPETITIVE EDGE. WE PARTNERED WITH THE SKILLS BRIDGE PROGRAM THAT HELPS US TO RETAIN FOLKS COMING OUT OF MILITARY SERVICE. THEY ARE ALLOTTED THREE MONTHS OF TIME WHILE THEY ARE STILL ENGAGED IN THEIR MILITARY SERVICE CONTRACT TO COME OUT IN THE CIVIL WANT WORLD AND WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO FIND THE JOB THEY WANT. WE PUT OUR FIRST RECRUIT THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. WE HAVE -- SO WE HAVE 14 OFFICERS ENTERING FIELD TRAINING AND 24 NEW RECRUITS ENTERING ACADEMY THIS MONTH. WE RECENTLY SELECTED 36 NEW OFFICERS FOR HIRE JULY 7. PUTS TPD 5 BUFFER VACANCY RATE WHEN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE A 10% IN OUR RECENT CHIEF'S REPORT. SO OUR QUALITY ASSURANCES. I LOST A SLIDE. THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIDES ITSELF IN RELATIONSHIPS AS IT HAS WITH THE COMMUNITY. ONE WAY WE PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE PROACTIVE WITH OUR COMMUNITY ASSURANCES. QUALITY STANDARDS AND EXPECTATIONS THAT OFFICERS ARE TO USE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FORCE NECESSARY IN RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE THANKS TO CONTINUED AND UPDATING TRAINING WE HAD WITH 11% DECREASE IN THE USE OF FORCE AND 17.4% INCREASE IN DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES. THIS YEAR, OUR OFFICERS HAVE ALREADY RESPONDED TO 513,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE, 1.6% INCREASE IN OVERALL COST OF SERVICE. AND 7% INCREASE ON SELF-INITIATED CALLS. ADDITIONAL AREA QUALITY ASSURANCE OUR EVIDENCE STORAGE AND PROCESSING. WE ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF PERMITTING FOR THE HOWARD AVENUE AN KNOWS REPLACE THE STORAGE AREA WE FORMALLY CALL THE IMPOUND LOT. HIGH VALUE AND VEHICLES NEEDED FOR EVIDENCE AT THE ANNEX, BUT THIS LOCATION IS BEING BUILT TO ENSURE A CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND SECURITY OF EVIDENCE. ONE MORE. OUR WELLNESS PROGRAMS. TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON WELLNESS INITIATIVES NOT ONLY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY. ASSISTANCE OF A FEDERAL GRANT, CONNECT AND PROTECT PROGRAM WITH OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION DISPATCH PROGRAM. WE RECEIVED MORE THAN 450 CALLS THIS YEAR WERE HANDLED BY THE CRISIS DISPATCHERS RESULTING IN 216 PEOPLE RECEIVING DIVERSIONARY SERVICES AND 154 ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BEING DISPATCHED. THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNIT THAT WORKS AS A CO-RESPONDER MODEL. ONE OFFICER AND ONE CLINICIAN WORKING AS PART OF A TWO-PERSON RESPONSE TEAM. 06,000 CALLS OF SERVICE AND ADDRESSED MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS. BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNITS OF 470 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT GENERATED CALL FOR SERVICE OF BHU MANAGING SAFETY PLANS, ASSISTING IN MEDICATION AND ARRANGING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. TPD HANDLED 1D 01 FALL-UP CALLS AND RESPONDED TO 84 LIVE CALLS. ACTIVE CALLS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN DISTRESS. BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNIT SUCCESSFULLY LOCATED 140 INDIVIDUALS. OTHERS ARE RECEIVING FOLLOW-UP SERVICE THAT ARE SUCCESSFULLY CLOSED OUT AND NOT RECEIVING POLICE INTERVENTION. PARTNERED FOR ADDITION ALLEGE WELLNESS RESOURCE FOR OUR OFFICERS INDIVIDUALLY AND WITH THEIR SIGNATURE OTHER. PROVIDES WELLNESS, SPIRITUAL WELLNESS TO SERVICES. THEY HAVE BEEN AN OVERWHELMING SUCCESS WITH OUR OFFICERS. AND OUR REQUEST FOR SERVICES CONTINUE TO INCREASE. . >> SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, CRIME TECHNOLOGY ADVANCE 789. THINGS WE ARE DOING IN TECHNOLOGY IS ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF HELPING OUR OFFICERS. AND SMARTPHONE IS SOMETHING WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR LAST YEAR. THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING DEPLOYED NOW OUT INTO THE FIELD. AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS ON THERE TO ASSIST THE OFFICERS IS PRETTY MUCH SHORT OF I HAVE A MAZING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PILOTING SOMETHING CALLED "POLICY CHAT." BASICALLY USE AS SIMILAR FEATURE LIKE IF YOU WERE TO DO A GOOGLE SEARCH. AND THE GOOGLE SEARCH, WHEN YOU COME UP, COMES BACK WITH AN AI RESPONSE. WHAT THIS DOES IS COMES UP WITH AN AI RESPONSE JUST ON OUR POLICIES AND ON OUR SOPs, MORs AND LEGAL BULLETINS AND HELPS OUR OFFICERS TO SEARCH POLICIES AN GET RESPONSES MUCH QUICKER. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PILOTING OUT A GREAT TOOL OUT THERE TO ASSIST THEM IN. IN ADDITION TO THAT, LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS TO MAKE THEIR JOBS EASIER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE S COMMUNITIES ORIENTED POLICING SIGNAL 87 WHICH IS BASICALLY MEETINGS WHERE WE GET THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND WE HAD ONE OF THOSE LAST WEEK AND WE HAVE GREAT FEEDBACK ON THOSE MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU MIGHT HAVE COME TO THAT ONE AT THE REAGAN CENTER. YES, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP. AND AS FAR AS QUALITY ASSURANCES, WE TALKED OF THE I CAT TRAINING AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LEADING THE EDGE ON. SOMETHING THAT OUR AGENCY HAS BEEN DOING. BUT WE CONTINUE TO DO IT AS A REFRESHER USING THE CURRICULUM FROM THE POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM. AND WE ARE ADDING IN VIRTUAL REALITY HEADSETS TO FURTHER AUGMENT THIS THROUGH -- THROUGH OUR AXON AGREEMENT. WE HAVE 41 HEADSETS. THOSE HEADSETS ARE FOR THE OFFICERS TO DO TASER TEN TRAINING AND ALSO DEESCALATION TRAINING. SO WE ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE WITH THAT AS WELL. THE OTHER THING IS OUR WELLNESS AND PHYSICAL FITNESS TRAINING. THAT THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY TAKE NEAR AND DEAR. IF WE DON'T CARE OF OURSELVES, HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS. SO BASICALLY TO CLOSE THIS ALL OUT, I AM VERY PROUD TO BE THE CHIEF OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF OUR OFFICERS. THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING IS MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT IS BEING NOTICED ACROSS THE NATION. SO IT IS OUR HONOR TO PREN THIS, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOUR ITEM. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION, AS ALWAYS. I ALWAYS -- I SAW A LOT OF PICTURES OF SHAREEF, ONE YOU HAVE YOUR OFFICERS FROM NEW YORK CITY PD. AND A RISING STAR IN THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A GOOD GUY AND GLAD TO SEE HE IS A BIG START OF TPD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ALL ABOUT A GROWING TAMPA AND MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR GROWING TAMPA. WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY WHICH IS ISSUE NUMBER ONE FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT OR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. ALWAYS A BIG DEAL. WE ARE POST COVID OF TAMPA, TAMPA BAY AREA, STATE OF FLORIDA HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY. WE DO THIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MEETING THOSE NEEDS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW. YOU ALL HIGHLIGHTED ON, IN MY OPINION, ALL THE IMPORTANT POINTS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT HIRING MORE POLICE OFFICERS. I THINK THAT IS OBVIOUS. I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT. MAKE SURE AS A CITY THAT WE WILL HAVE OFFICERS WHO ARE RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE NEEDS OF ALL PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT. GLAD Y'ALL TALKED OF THAT. TREMENDOUS THING THAT OUR CITY DID AFTER THE 2020 MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD WAS LOOKING AT THESE MENTAL HEALTH UNITS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM GROW AND GROW AND GROW CONTINUALLY BECAUSE SO MANY -- AGAIN YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE A POLITICIAN OR LAWYER FOR POLICING. BUT SO MANY CRIMES AND CALLS DO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND SO THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT. COMMUNITY POLICING. SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS REALLY BIG IN THE 1990s AND I SEE MORE RETURN TO. THAT MAKING SURE OFFICERS ARE PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND SO FORTH. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THIS, BUT -- IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR POLICE OFFICERS THROUGH -- THROUGH CITY INCENTIVES AND MAYBE SOMETHING EXISTS. I DON'T KNOW TO LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS AS ENCOURAGEMENT. THE BIG ISSUE, OF COURSE, HOW WE PAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS. I SAY WE NEED MORE COPS. EXPAND THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT. DIFFERENT THINGS. COMMUNITY POLICING OBVIOUSLY COST A LOT OF MONEY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEE A SUBSTATION ONE DAY IN NEW COMPANY. DISTRICT 2 SUPPORTS ALL OF DISTRICT 7. BUSCH GARDENS IS FAR FROM CORY LAKE. I SAY A GOOD THING, BUT HOW DO WE PAY FOR THESE THINGS. YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND I WILL VOTED FOR IT TWO YEARS AGO AND AIL SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE NEED A REVENUE SOURCE THAT GOES TO BUILDING NEW FIRE STATIONS, HIRING MORE OFFICERS AND BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I KNOW NOT A POPULAR THING TO SAY IN TERMS OF TAXES, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION WITH REGARDS TO THE NEWS. I KNOW SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING THEIR EVERY TAMPANO NO MATTER WHO WE ARE, OR WHAT GOD THEY WORSHIP FEELS SAFE. AFTER THE NEWS IN BOULDER, COLORADO. IT HAPPENED THAT WASHINGTON D.C. AT THE ATTACK OF -- IT WAS THE JEWISH MUSEUM -- THE JEWISH CAPITOL MUSEUM IN D.C. WE ARE HEARING A LOT FROM OUR AMERICAN JEWISH CONSTITUENTS ON BEING SAFE. AND I KNOW THERE IS GREAT AND TREMENDOUS TRUST IN WHAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT AND THE DUTY WE ALL HAVE YOU THAT IN THIS TIME, WHEN IT COMES TO PREJUDICE AND HATE AND IN THIS INSTANCE WITH ANTI-SEMITISM THAT WE FEEL HURT, PROTECTED AND WHATNOT. THINGS YOU ALWAYS DOUSE A GREAT JOB ON. LEAVE YOU GUY ON VICTIM OF CRIMES AND OUTREACH. WE WILL BE VOTING ON RENAMING A PARK BY THE LATE HARRISON BOONESTOPPEL. POLICE OFFICERS WEAR MANY HATS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OVEN WEAR IS A COUNSELOR, SECULAR MINISTER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE MOURNING AND GRIEVING AND YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB ON THAT. AND I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US. YOU KNOW, AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE OUR CITY SUPPORTS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE DO AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT AS WE GROW AS A CITY WE HAVE THAT GROWTH IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT AND SUPPORT. SO I WILL STOP TALKING RIGHT NOW AND NOT RUN OUT YOU HAVE MY TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK UNTIL IT DINGS. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR. I ADMIRE THE WORK BEING DONE BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IT IS BASICALLY WHAT I WANT TO SAY. ALSO THE RECRUITMENT LEVEL, THE ACTION PLAN IN TERMS OF INCREASING MINORITY POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. I AM GLAD TO SEE THERE IS A STRATEGY TO FOCUS ON THAT, PARTICULARLY AT HBCUs. I KNOW THAT CAN BE TOUGH DOWN THE LINE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE OTHER THING THAT I RECOGNIZE IS OUR EXPLORER FROG. A LOT OF MY STUDENTS WHEN I SAW THEM AT MEMORIAL IN A POLICE UNIVERSITY. A REAL UNIFORM AND NOT A EXPLORER UNIFORM ALONG WITH WHO IS PICTURED TODAY. OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS, BEING CONNECTED TO THE SPORTS AND CONNECTED TO THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THAT WAY AND IN AN INFORMAL WAY CAN STILL BRING ABOUT RECRUITMENT. WE ARE ALWAYS RECRUITING AND KEEPING A FRESH EYE ON THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE. I SEE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO PEOPLE THAT DISPLAYED IN THE POWERPOINT THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOW SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. PROUD TO SERVE OUR CITY AS A CHIEF. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THAT YOU ALL DO. THIS OUTWEIGHS THE SAD DAYS. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE TOUGH DAYS AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS AND INTENSITY ON YOUTH, ON DIVERSION, ON HELPING WITH BEHAVIORAL UNIT. ALL OF THIS IS VERY EXCITING. CONGRATULATIONS. BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS THAT IT WORKS. I LOVE THAT. WE HOPE WE WILL FIND MORE MONEY THROUGH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNITS AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE HIGH AND ONLY INTEREST THREE OR FOUR DEDICATED HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. SEEM LIKES WE MAY NEED SOME MORE IN THE FUTURE AND I WANT TO REALLY CONTEND YOU, YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH GRANTS, AND GETTING GRANTS TO FUND A LOT OF IS IT STUFF. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. REALLY EXCITING WHAT A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND TO YOUR WHOLE STAFF UNDER YOU AND EVERY POLICE OFFICER AT THE CITY OF TAMPA. AN HONOR TO BE HERE AND SEE WHAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND IN HAD THE WHY AND HOW AND WHO DOES IT, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. BECAUSE NOWADAYS WHEN YOU LOOK AT ANY SCREEN ON EVERYTHING ON THE PHONE, ON TV, WHATEVER YOU ARE WATCHING, THERE IS ALWAYS VIOLENCE OF SOME SORT. AND THEY SHOW YOU THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY NOT ONLY THE UNITED STATES BUT OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE THE COPY CAT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT THEY GET THEIR IDEALISM ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AND BLOWING UP SOMETHING TO HAVE THEIR NAME REVERENDED STILL SOMEWHERE. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE FORCE HAVE REALLY LOOKED AFTER IT AND CONTINUED TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THE UNKNOWN IS ALSO THE UNEXPECTED. AND YOU CAN NEVER BE PREPARED ENOUGH. YOU STROKES DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB TO BE AS PREPARED AS YOU CAN AND IT ALSO VERIFIES THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE RETIRING, BUT A LOT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU HAVE TO BE RECRUITING LIKE PLANNING FLOWERS MAKING THEM GROW AND PLANT ANOTHER ACRE OF FLOWERS BECAUSE THOSE HAVE LEFT ALREADY. A YEOMAN'S JOB THAT YOU HAVE TO YOU DO. YOU HAVE TO BE A SIGH KAI TRY, A POLICE OFFICER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STREET KNOWLEDGE. YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE THE BOOK KNOWLEDGE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE "DON'T TOUCH ME" KNOWLEDGE. SO MANY THINGS TODAY TO BE A POLICE OFFICER. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE JOB YOU ARE DOING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. CARLS CARLSON CARLSON THANK YOU NOT WORKING MEN AND WOMEN IN POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WHAT YOU ALL DO AS I SAID THIS MORNING, NOTHING IN OUR CITY CAN WORK IF WE HAVE A HIGH CRIME RATE. WHEN WE -- WHEN I STARTED -- SOME OF US STARTED AT DIFFERENT TIMES. WHEN I STARTED COUNCIL IN 2019 ALREADY A PERIOD FROM 2018-2021 WHERE THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE SPIKED. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO THE FBI CRIME STATISTICS WEB SITE. HATS OFF TO MAYOR CASTOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT WHO -- WHO CHANGED THE DIRECTION AND BROUGHT THAT VIOLENT CRIME RATE DOWN. WE HAVE HAD NOW THREE OR FOUR YEARS OF LOW VIOLENT CRIME RATES. AS YOU SAID ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. AND IT IS PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES DIRECTION MANAGEMENT CHIEF -- DR. CHIEF BERCAW BEING THERE AS WELL. AND HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TEAM AND SOME OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED WAS KLA BORATIVE. FEW YEARS AGO SOME DESPERATE POLITICIANS TRIED TO FOE LIGHT SIZE THE POLICE. I WAS AGAINST IT THEN. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NEVER PUT POLICE OFFICERS IN THE WAY OF POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS AND POLITICAL FIGHTS. WE ALL WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO HELP THE POLICE -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I, IN PARTICULAR ARE PARTICULAR ALREADY THIS WAVE OF E-MAILS AND CAMPAIGN SAYING WE ARE ANTI-POLICE. AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS RODE IN POLICE CARS MORE THAN ANY OF US. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU PUT YOUR LIVES ON THE LINE. WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. AND IT THE LAST THING I SAY -- I AM GOING TO SAY IS THAT WHATEVER ANY KIND OF CRAZY POLITICIAN SAY, I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I SUPPORT THE POLICE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO YOUR JOB. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. TOP ADD ON TO THAT. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US WE DO OUR CITIZENS ACADEMY IN THE FALL AND BRINGFALL WILL BE ADVERTISING SOON. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO SIGN UP FOR THE CITIZENS ACADEMY. POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE CRIME REDUCTION. LAST 22 YEARS, CITY OF TAMPA IS DOWN 76% IN CRIME. NATION SAW A SPIKE IN VIOLENT CRIME DURING COVID BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM SHUT DOWN, BUT SLIGHT LITTLE NUDGE TAMPA HAD WAS NO, SIRWHERE THE REST OF THE NATION. WE ARE FORTUNATE BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE AND THE OFFICERS WE HAVE TO HAVE RECORD HISTORIC LOW CRIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WE VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT IF I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY TASING SOMEONE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T TO GET TASED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO TASE SOMEBODY. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL M MEMBER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE YOUTH. A LOT OF GOOD IN TAMPA. WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND HEAR A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT NICE TO SEE THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT IS BEING DONE. AND THANK YOU TO YOU, CHIEF. YOU ARE ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE. YOU ALWAYS ANSWER OR YOU CALL FIRST MANY TEAMS. YOU MENTION THE CITIZENS ACADEMY. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO DO THAT. IT IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY. I DID IT YEARS AGO. I DID NOT GET TASE. I CHOSE NOT TO. BUT IT IS -- IT IS A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES. AND YOU GET A GREATER APPRECIATION. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL REPORT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, I JUST -- REMEMBER I WAS GOING TO RIDE ALONG YOU WITH, BUT IT WAS 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND YOU DIDN'T CALL TO WAKE ME UP, REMEMBER, AND I SLEPT THROUGH IT. CHIEF BERCAW. >> IF THAT THE WAY YOU SEE IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE NEED TOE GET BACK ON LIST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR THE CITY KEEPING US SAFE. EVERYBODY THAT WORKS AND WEARS THE EUROPE AS A FIRST RESPONDER. FIRST MEETING, WE TALKED OF P.A.L. POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, AND OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE YOUTH. THANK YOU FOR WALKING THAT TALK WITH AND TALKING THAT TALK. AND IT BEING TRUE TO THE FIRST WORDS YOU EVER IT ERRED ME IN OUR VERY FIRST MEETING -- UTTERS TO KNEE IN OUR VERY FIRST MEETING. I THINK IT IS I CAN VALUABLE AND PEOPLE SITTING HERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW WITH LOWER CRIME RATES, A BECAUSE OF THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY FOR REDUCING FUTURE CRIMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT ITEM IS -- ITEM NUMBER 70. STAFF PROCEEDING AN UPDATE ON THE PROCESS FOR 2025 RIBBON CUTTING IN 2027 OF STATION 24. CHIEF TRIPP. >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. CHIEF TRIPP HERE, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CHIEF. AND I DO HAVE MY PROJECT MANAGER THAT SHOULD BE ONLINE. AND WE HAVE A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY. SO, KEN, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? >> I'M HERE, CHIEF. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS SELECTED TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT WHICH IS THE BUILDING OF FIRE STATION 24. AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING EVERY WEEK. HE MEETS WITH US ON A WEEKLY BASIS. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING MULTIPLE MEETINGS. HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE LAYOUT FOR THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE BUILDING ITSELF AND HE WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS SOME OF THE YEARS WE ARE LOOKING INTO TO TRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN -- NOT DECREASE BUT INCREASE THE START DATE OPPOSED TO DECREASING THE TIME WE HAVE CURRENTLY. KEN, I WILL LET YOU START. >> SURE. THANKS, CHIEF. AND THANKS COUNCILOR. GREAT TO BE HERE. AND THE STATUS OF PROJECT AS WE SIT. TODAY, SOME OF THE PROJECTS COMPLETED. PROJECT CONFIRMATION, EXISTING SITE, AND SURVEY AND ANALYSIS OF THE SITE HAS BEEN COMPLETE AS WELL. WE WORKED ON THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE PROGRAMMING OF THE SPACE. THE NEEDS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLANS. WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE ARCHITECTS CONCEPTUAL FIRST-FLOOR PLANS WITH VERY VIEW AND ONGOING. ANTICIPATING A PREDESIGN PACKAGE, CRITERIA PACKAGE TO BE COMPLETED ON OR ABOUT THE 30th OF JULY. CURRENTLY, THE SCHEDULE IS LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION START DATE OF 25 SEPTEMBER OF 2026. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON COMPRESSING THE DESIGN SCHEDULE TO ENSURE THAT WE GET AN EARLIER CONSTRUCTION START DATE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. AND IN ADDITION, WE WILL BE MAKE SHOOT SURE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE IT HE SIGN BUILD TEAM TO IDENTIFY ANY KIND OF BUILDING METHODS OR MATERIALS TILT WALL, PRECAST OR ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN TO DO COMPRESS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE TO MOVE UP THAT YOU D AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE WANT TO GET THAT. THAT IS CURRENTLY WHERE WE STAND. AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP. UP APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS. I AM SURE THAT WILL HELP PUSH THAT ALONG. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. BEFORE WE START. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE LAST TIME I HEARD, IT WAS DOING A GROUNDBREAKING IN MARCH OF 2026, RIGHT. DID YOU SAY SEPTEMBER OF '25 WE ARE LOOKING AT GROUNDBREAK SOMETHING IN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY OKAY, GREAT. >> SEPTEMBER OF 2026. CONSTRUCTION STARTING. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE NOT START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND FOUR MONTHS? >> WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH TO FIND OUT. AGAIN, WE HAVE ONLY BEEN INVOLVED IN A LITTLE LESS THAN A MONTH. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE DESIGN TEAM. THERE WAS A CONTRACT ALREADY ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE CAME ON BOARD THAT ESTABLISHED DATES OF COMPLETION FOR DESIGN PHASE AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. WE ARE WORKING AGAINST THAT CONTRACT TO TRY TO COMPRESS THOSE DATES AND PORTION OF THE DESIGN TEAM TO MOVE THE DATES UP OF THE DESIGN PHASE AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. OUR ANTICIPATION WE WILL PULL THAT BACK AS QUICKLY AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GET MORE IN LINE WITH THE MARCH OF 2025 -- EXCUSE KNEE MARCH OF '26 GROUNDBREAKING DATE. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DON'T KNOW -- I WANT TO SAY ONE THING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CONTRACT IS AT. ADMIN IS ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF RICHARD HAS ANY INPUT. BECAUSE COMING FROM CONT CONTRACT ADMIN TO PUSH FOR MARCH OF 26. AS STATED FOR DESIGN-BUILD, AS FAR AS THAT CONTRACT AND, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED VIES VEEZ /* /*. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO BE BLUVENT IMDISSTRESSED TOLD MARCH '26 AND WE DID MOTIONS TO HURRY ON THAT. AND WE ARE BEING TOLD SEPTEMBER 2026 FOR GROUNDBREAKING. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. I AM VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED OVER THIS. I WILL WITHHOLD MY WORDS FOR A DEGREE, BUT WE WERE TALK OF MARCH OF 2026. AND POLICE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE I AM GOING OFF OF RECOLLECTION FOR GROUNDBREAKING. PUSHING FOR OCTOBER OF 2025 FOR GROUNDBREAKING. WE PACKSS -- PABSED A DESIGN IN 2023. AND WILL TAKE THREE I CAN'T HAVE NEARS TO GET TO GROUNDBREAKING? MY QUESTION IS TO EVERYBODY THERE, AND I -- THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE CHIEF. CERTAIN THINGS IN THE PER VIEW OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION OR MR. -- PLEASE CORRECTED ME IF IMMISS PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME MR. GUYETTE. TELL ME HOW THAT MAKES SENSE AND HOW IN THE WORLD WE GOT HERE. DEALING WITH A NORTH TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT HAD STATION 13 THAT WAS THE BUSIEST STATION IN TAMPA, 54th BUSIEST STATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF THROUGH STATION 25 AND DONE QUICKLY. AND NOW TAKE US THREE AND A HALF YEARS TO GET FROM PASSING DESIGN TO DOING A GROUNDBREAK SOMETHING IN EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT MAKES SENSE. FROM THE WAY I SEE IT. THE SIMPLE THINKING PERSON HERE. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT MAKES SENSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY FROM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ONLINE? NO? >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY SHOULD BE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY FROM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION LISTENING, NOW IS YOUR TIME TO LOG IN. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS, WHERE WE WERE TOLD. MR. VIERA WORKED SO HARD OF WORKING TO THAT GOAL. NOW THAT GOAL HAS SORT OF DISAPPEARED IN THE AIR. SO I THINK SOME EXPLANATION THAT IS DUE TO YOU MR. VIERA AND TO COUNCIL AS TO WHY. THAT'S WHAT HE IS ASKING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE. I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT THAT -- THAT NOTHING ELSE SHOULD BREAK DOWN UNTIL THIS IS DONE. I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE ANY MORE MONEY FOR ANYTHING, BUILDING-WISE UNTIL THIS GETS DONE. BECAUSE THIS IS -- THAT IS RIDICULOUS. IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. NO REASON WE CAN'T START BUILDING A FIRE STATION FOR ANOTHER 16 MONTHS. THAT -- THAT -- THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SO I -- YEAH, I WON'T SUPPORT ANY TYPE OF BUILDING OF CITY FACILITIES UNTIL THIS IS DONE. I CAN'T DO IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: AGREE. IT IS RIDICULOUS. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA PUSHED THIS FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS ALL DONE. WE ALLOCATED THE MONEY. NOTHING HAPPENED. WE TALKED OF SLOW WALKING. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. AND IT IS NOT A STAFF PERSON'S FAULT. ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SETTING THIS AS A PRIORITY. IT IS NOT ABOUT A STATION. IT IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY NEED -- WE NEED FACILITIES TO PROTECT OUR FIRE FIGHTERS AND PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE. WE NEED RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC. IF YOU ALL MAKE AT THAT MOTION TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON NEW BUILDINGS, I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT. I WILL DEFINITELY VOTE FOR IT. WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WITH TAMPA UNION STATION. TOOK FIVE YEARS OF MAKING MOTIONS EVERY YEAR. AND NOW FINALLY IT IS STARTING. AND -- >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY. WHAT KIND OF MOTION. THAT -- WELL, IF YOU ALL THINK OF THE LANGUAGE, I AM HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION OR SUPPORT IT. >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE MOTION? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST SAYING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON A SECOND. STILL DISCUSSION. CAN I SUGGEST COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO SPEAK BEFORE WE DO THIS. CAN WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR, LIKE AN HOUR AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ON TO GET THIS ANSWER? SO I AM GOING TO LET COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAVE THE LAST WORD OF THIS DISCUSSION. AND THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION -- I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM SOMEONE ON COUNCIL TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR ONE HOUR. >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNTIL 2:30. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAY YES, A MOTION TO DEFER THIS UNTIL 2:00 -- LET'S SAY O'C 3:00. SEASON SECOND WHICH BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE THIS OUT. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MR. CHAIR. NOR ME, I WILL GIVE YOU ALL OBJECTIVE FACTS. WE PASSEDED THIS IN 2023 FOR DESIGN. THEN WE DO A VOTE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT IN EARLY 2024 FOR PONDING FOR STATION 24 AS WELL AS FLEET MAINTENANCE. CITY COUNCIL PUTS FORTH THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT KWAWAS IN EARLY 2024. HERE WE ARE A YEAR AND A HALF LATER AND JUST BEING TOLD WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF TO BEGIN ON THIS PROJECT FOR GROUNDBREAKING. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. SO I DO WANT SOMEBODY FROM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION HERE. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. AND I AM -- I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK WHENEVER WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM ADMINISTRATION TO COME AND TO GIVE US A DETAILEEXPLANATION. THE MOTION SHOULD BE, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? THAT IS WHAT THE MOTION SHOULD BE. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED. BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS FOR THIS. AGAIN, WHEREVER IT FALLS, I WANT ANSWERS. BECAUSE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. UNACCEPTABLE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE SAID THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: EASY ACCESS TO IT THE ELMO. [LAUGHTER] >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS ON THE PRIOR -- I NEVER USED THIS. HOW I DO -- >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU JUST LEAVE IT THERE AND IT SHOULD POP UP. >>BILL CARLSON: TALKING OF VIOLENT CRIME STATISTICS A MINUTE AGO ON THE BLESS SIDE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE GET THE WOLF UP PLEASE. WOLF. >>BILL CARLSON: I HAPPENED TO PRINT THIS OUT OR DO A SCREEN SHOT OF IT A FEW DAYS AGO. THIS IS THE -- IS IT BACK UP? THIS IS THE FBI -- ANYBODY CAN FIND THIS. GO TO THE FBI CRIME STATISTICS WEB SITE. AND JUST PULL UP CITY OF TAMPA. THIS IS DATA REPORT BY TPD. NOT BY -- NOT DONE INDEPENDENTLY BY THE FBI. BUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THIS -- THIS BIG SPIKE. AND YOU SEE IT GO UP AND DOWN, BUT THE BIG SPIKE STARTED IN -- SOMETIME IN 2018. AND THEN ENDED ABOUT 2020-2021. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FIRE STATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT WE ARE TALKING OF THE FIRE STATION. >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY. I AM JUST GOING TO CIRCULATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING THAT BACK TO NEW BUSINESS. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >>CHARLIE MMIR >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DES APPROVING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. BUT I WANT TO TAKE THE WORD "HELL" OUT. USE ANOTHER WORD LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE ARE GOING TO -- CLEAVE TRIPP IF YOU ARE STILL ON, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR O'CLOCK AND HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER IS THOSE QUESTIONS. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SEE YOU AT APPROXIMATELY 3:00 IN COUNCIL TIME WHICH YOU KNOW CAN HE GIVE OR TAKE AN HOUR. OKAY, THAT BEING SAID, I DID NOT ASK IF THERE WAS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT PUSHED TO HAVE THIS COUNCIL RECONSIDER LEGISLATIVE MATTERS. HEARING NONE. GONE. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA ONCE I FIND MY PLACE. OKAY. NOW AT OUR 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS 2:00. ONLY FOUR HOURS BEHIND. WE ARE GOING TO START. THIS IS A NONQUASI JUDICIAL SO WE DON'T NEED TO SWEAR ANYBODY IN. ITEM NUMBER 45. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ON PUBLIC. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN -- COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. PROPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. ITEM NUMBER 45. WHO WILL PRESENT? THIS IS THE SECOND READINGS, BY THE WAY. E >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. SECOND READING TO AMEND THE RINGS. MAY 1. APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> GOOD AFTERNOON ANY NAM /* /* MY NAME IS SARAH SANDY REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER. ADDRESS IS 107 WEST C COLLEGE AVENUE IN TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW PREVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE A MAP OF IT JUST TO GET AN IDEA. UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL YOU WOULD LIKE TO ME TO ANSWER, I'M HERE A ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? >>. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVED TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, READ ITEM 45. >>LUIS VIERA: SURE. I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE 210-129 WHICH ESTABLISHED THE ENCORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES PURSUANT TO 190.046 PROVIDING FOR ALL OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO REMAIN UNCHANGED, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS AND SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE OF THE DAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE. WHO IS MISSING? >>LYNN HURTAK: EVERYBODY PUSH FOR THEIR VOTE. PUSH IT AGAIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO ARE YOU MISS SOMETHING IN. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONGRATULATIONS. ITEM 46. WHO WILL PRESENT. >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE. NUMBER 46 IS THE SECOND READING OF HONORARY NAMING OF THE NEW TAMPA ALL ABILITY BOOK FOR YOUNG MR. HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU LEAD THE LAST ONE BUT APPROPRIATE FOR TO YOU READ THIS ONE AS WELL. SORRY, A MOTION TO CLOSE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, PROUD PLEASURE TO DO THIS FOR A YOUNG MAN WHO -- HIS LIFE AND JUST EVERYTHING REALLY SYMBOLIZES WHAT THAT PARK IS PAUL ABOUT, THE LATE HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL. ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA APPROVING AND FIRM THATTING OF THE NEW TAMPA ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUND TO HONOR HAR HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MA PLEASE CENTER YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 47. >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL STATE. SECOND RAISING OF PRO PROSED PARK AT MARKUM AFTER LISA CHESSER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLO CLOSE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR. I THINK THIS IS A GRAND IDEA. I AM GLAD I HAD IT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, READ ITEM 47. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR. AND THANK YOU TO MISS POYNOR AND THE COMMUNITY FOR RECOMMENDING THIS. WE GAVE LISA AN ACCOMMODATION A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE SHE PASSED AND SHE HAD A BIG IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY MUCH SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN FACT. SO WITH PLEASURE REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE NUMBER HN 25-14352. ORDINANCE SECOND READING, FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA APPROVING THE NAMING OF PROPOSE PARK AT MARKUM STREET AND PINEWOOD STREET IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR L LISA MARIE CHESSER PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING ON TO ITEM 48. >> HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST. 48 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX EXEMPTION FOR 1807 NORTH MORGAN STREET AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, READ ITEM 48. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DO YOU SAY HARVEY'S LAST NAME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VOTE ON THAT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SCHONBRUN. IT'S OKAY. I DON'T MIND ASKING. HTX 25-13984 ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND AI DOPTION. TAX EXEMPTION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY HAR HARVEY SCHONBURN, TRUSTEE, LOCATED AT 1807 NORTH MORGAN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT PACED ON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING TO NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. PROVIDING BY SEVERABILITIES AND ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS HOUSE IS BEAUTIFUL, BY THE WAY, EXTREMELY. ONE BLOCK FROM THE BOOK STORE. IT'S GORGEOUS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HE DID A GREAT JOB. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE MORE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I VOTED PIN MINE SAYS YES. I VOTED YES. >>CLERK: I CAN'T TELL WHOSE IT IS. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ONE ITEM 49 YOU WILL PRESENT AS WELL? >> YES, SIR. HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST. NUMBER 49. >> AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADAPTATION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX EXEMPTION AT 1704 WEST JETTON AVENUE. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NO? MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. MISS HURTAK. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER HTX 25-13986, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY ANDREW M. PNEUMONIA AND AERIAL PETERS LOCATED 1704 WEST JETTON AVENUE IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT BASED ON CERTAIN FINDINGS AND PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND ORDINANCES IN CONFLICTS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. FAVOR. MOTION TO CLOSE. RECORD YOUR VOTE. SORRY. I AM ACTUALLY MOVING -- >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANI UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. MOVING ON TO THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL. YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN IN IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO TESTIFY OR SPEAKING. STAND UP, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND LET OUR FINE CLERK SWEAR YOU IN. ANYBODY -- IF ANYBODY FOR THE REVIEW HEARING. STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WERE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING. ANYTHING AT ALL. >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. >>CLERK: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 50. I SEE SAM THOMAS THAT I CAN'T HEAR BECAUSE HE IS ON MUTE. STILL ON MUTE. MADAM CLERK. HE IS UNMUTED ON OUR END. T SAMUEL HIT /* /*. >> I HIT THE BUTTON. ITEM NUMBER 50, REZ 25-02. REZONING REQUEST FOR 2701 SNORT FREMONT AVENUE. REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RS-50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLAN HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE AROUND APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 50? ANYBODY IN THE COLONEL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 50 IN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. OPPOSED? COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, READ ITEM 50. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR SECOND READING AND IT ADOPTION, GENERAL VICINITY 2701 SNORT FREMONT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO DD SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING ON TO ITEM 51. WHO WILL PRESENT? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, STEPHANIE POPE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. 51 REZ-25-21. REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY 3210 EAST YUKON STREET. FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 06 TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50. EUCLIDIAN ZONING AND NO SITE PLANS. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR 51? >>CLERK: MR. PHILLIPS IS ONLINE AND WE CAN NOT ELEVATE HIM DUE TO TECHNICAL ISSUES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TECH SCHOOL ISSUES. HE CAN HEAR US. BUT CAN WE HEAR HIM AT ALL? >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO SEE HIS FACE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE WE ARE HAVING THE TECHNICAL ISSUE AND MOVE FORWARD. MR. SHELBY, SOMETHING WE MOVE FORWARD? OKAY, VERY GOOD. WE WOULD LIKE --/A MOTION TO CLOSE. ANYBODY IN PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND A SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. LET OFF WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 51. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 5 51, REZ-25-21. ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3210 EAST YUKON STREET FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. RECORD YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRY WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTE NOTHING AND VIERA BEING BE A DEN AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 52. WHO WILL PRESENT FOR 52. >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 352, REZ 25-23 THIS ITEM A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY 1905 WEST SLY SLIGH AVENUE FOR RESIDENTIAL ATTACHED USES. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS? AN APPLICANT FOR 5 5 2 /* /* FOR 52? WHO. >> JORGE COMA TA ON BEHALF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. WE ARE JUST HERE FOR THIS HEARING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE -- WITH THE ADOPTION OF IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE ABLE TO ANSWER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 52? MOTION TO CLOSE? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 52. REZ 25-23. ORDINANCE SECOND READING AN ADOPTION REZONING PROPERTY GENERAL 1905 WEST SLIGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD RESIDENTIAL OFFICE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. ALAN CLENDENIN A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. NOW PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT THAT TIME VOTE. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE WELCOME. ITEM 53. WHO IS PRESENTING ITEM 53. >> STEPHANIE POPE. REZ 25-25. 80 8 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET. REQUEST TO REZONE FROM ,D OF PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY TO PD MEDICAL AND PROFESSION TALL BUSINESS OFFICE USE. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. CLENDENIN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO APPLICANT. ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS SPEAK TO 53. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ 25-25, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 808 N. ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET?THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED MEDICAL AND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 54. >> SAM MOMS THAT, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 54, REZ-25-29. 240 AND 258 SOUTH PLANT AVENUE, 205, 207, 089 AND 211 WEST PLATT STREET. FOR PLANS FOR A SCHOOL. PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. APPLICANT. >> CHARLES DAVIS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 2,000. WE JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CITY, STAFF, COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY THE APPLICANT'S NEIGHBOR, PUBLIX, FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND WORK ON THIS PROJECT AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER I DIDN'T QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED IN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, FILE NUMBER REZ-25-29. ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY 23401240 AND 2 58 SOUTH PLANT 'AND 205, 207 AND 209 AND 211 WEST PLATT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ZONING CLASSIFICATION OP OFFICE PROFESSIONAL AND CG TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SCHOOL. PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE SCLESHGZ CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 55. >> STEPHANIE POPE, ITEM NUMBER 55 IS REZ-25-32. REZONING REQUEST FOR 718 EAST 23rd AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY USES. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN SUPPLIED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS PETITION THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER PETITIONER. PRESERVED SOME GRAND TREES AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM 55. MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. ALL THAT FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. GO AHEAD AND READ IT. IF YOU MUST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PRESENT TODAY SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. IN 9128 EAST 23rd AVENUE IN SECTION ONE FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO ,D RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING ON TOO ITEM 56. >> SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. A 56, REZ-25-13. PROPERTY REQUEST OF 4601 AND 4611 WEST NORTH A STREET FROM RO-1 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ATTACHED. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE OR ONLINE. >> FLORIDA DESIGN CONSULTANTS FOR THE RECORD. I'M HERE TO PAIN ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU NEED TO SWEAR IN. RAISE THE RIGHT HAND AND LET THE CLERK SWEAR YOU IN. >> SURE. >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START THE BEGINNING. >> ROB ROSNER WITH FLORIDA DESIGN CONSULTANT AND I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON. >> APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP OF GETTING THIS APPLICATION TOGETHER AND YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PROJECT. TO I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM 56? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. OPPOSED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 56, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. ORDINANCE 4601, 4611 WEST NORTH A STREET?THE CITY OF TAMPA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN CLASSIFICATION RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROVIDING A EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT CONCLUDES THOSE. NOW 1 W 30. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ITEM NUMBER 57 AS MR. CHAIR HAS STATE IS REVIEW HEARING FOR CITY OF TAMPA SU 125-13-C FOR THE PROPERTY 2219 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE. THE PETITIONER FOR THAT MATTER IS BRITTANY OSBORN FROM SILVER TUNE PA LCC. THE REQUEST MADE BY THE APPLICANT AND THE PETITIONER WAS FOR A DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON FEBRUARY 25 OF 2025. IN YOUR POCKET PROVIDED COUNCIL 26-17 CODE SECTIONS. SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED THE LANGUAGE IN CODE SECTION 27-132 WHERE THE TWO REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND PROVIDED YOU WITH COPIES OF CODE SECTION 12729 AND-30. I PROVIDED SAMPLE MOTIONS IN THE RULE OF PROCEDURES FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING. AS PROVIDED IN CODE SECTION 27-61, THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING WHICH MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE NEW EVIDENCE. AFTER YOU CAN MARY TESTIMONY FROM THE AUDIENCE OR ANYONE. AFTER YOU HEAR ALL THE EVIDENCE AND REVIEW EVERYTHING REGARDING THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO ACTIONS. CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WHO DECIDE THE APPLICATION, OR YOU CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE GRANT THE REQUEST. STAFF -- DAVID HUNTER IS ONLINE TO GIVE A COMPLETE OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION WITH THE CITY. AND FOR THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WERE NOT SWORN. >> I WAS ON WHEN YOU DID IT SO, YES, I HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY WHO HAS NOT YET BEEN WORN IN. >> GOOD. OKAY, DAVID. >> I WILL NEED TO SHARE MY SCREEN, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THIS, ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED? HEARING NONE. >> LET'S SEE. CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY SCREEN HERE? >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >> OKAY, GREAT. MY NAME IS HE DAVID HUNTER, PLANNING AND DESIGN MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. SU 1-13-C FOR EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE. PETITION OF REVIEW OF THE SPECIAL USE TO ALLOW SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS IN THE CN, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT. THE PETITIONER IS BRITTANY OSBORNE, REPRESENTING SILVER,000A -- SILVER TUNA LCC THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THE SITE PLAN. EAST COLUMBUS THAT REPRESENTS THE SITE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. ARE YOU ABLE TO GO TO FULL SCREEN FOR PRESENTATION MODE SO WE CAN SEE THE SLIDES. >> I AM SORRY. WHICH SCREEN ARE YOU LOOKING AT? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LITTLE TELEVISION LOOKING SCREEN ON THE BOTTOM. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. THANK YOU. >> SORRY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANKS 'OKAY. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, WE ARE GOOD. >> OKAY. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN IN QUESTION. THIS IS THE SIDE TO THE NORTH ALONG EAST COLUMBUS. THE REAR WITH THE WEST SIDE TO THE SOUTH AND THE FRONT ALONG NORTH 23rd STREET. MINIMUM OF THREE AND A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT UNITS. ARE ATTACHED ON BOTH SIDE WALLS FROM GROUND TO ROOF AND NO CAN EXCEED 200 FEET. CODE REQUIRES DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD. SUBJECT SITE IS ACCESSEDED FROM NORTH 23rd STREET CLASSIFIED AS LOCAL ROAD. NOT AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD. DESIGN EXCEPTION TO WAS SUBMITTED ON FEBRUARY 21, 2024. THE REQUEST WAS APPROVED TO RE-ORIENT THE FRONT YARD TO THE NORTH -- TO THE FACE NORTH -- SORRY. RE-ORIENT THE FRONT YARD TO FACE NORTH 23rd STREET AND REDUCE THE REQUIRED SETBACK FROM SEVEN FEET TO FIVE FEET WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH EAST TAMPA OVERLAY STAND STANDARDS. I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. DIRECT ACCESS TO HOMES AND BUSINESSES CARRYING TRAFFIC AT LOW SPEED. SOMETHING TO NOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK? >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I JUST WANT -- THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THIS IS CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY AND FACES A ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR? >> THE APPLICANT CAME IN RESIDENTIAL USE ON A LOT ZONED CN WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THIS IS -- >> AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT CAME IN FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO RE-ORIENT THE SITE SO THE FRONT 23rd STREET. OTHER. WISE IT WOULD FRONT TYPICALLY EAST COLUMBUS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE BASIS OF DENIAL. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET AT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DAVID, WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF DENIAL FROM STAFF ON THIS? >> THE REQUEST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ACCESSED TO WEST OAKELLER. AND THAT IT DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FUNDS IN 27-132, THAT THE ACCESS IS PROVIDEDED FROM NORTH 23rd STREET WHICH IS A LOCAL ROAD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASIS OF DENIAL THIS IS A LOCAL ROAD NOT AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD. IS THAT THE BASIS OF STAFF'S DENIAL ON THIS? CAN WE GET A YES OR NO ANSWER TO THAT. >> I AM SORRY, YES. CLEN . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE FOR STAFF TO PRESENT ON THIS? ANYONE ELSE TO PRESENT ON THIS? AN APPLICANT -- A PETITIONER? >> JEFF SARDISCO ON BEHALF OF SILVER,000A. I GUESS CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU REGARDING THIS. IT IS ACTUALLY FOUR TOWN HOMES. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ACCESS COMING OFF OF 23rd. THERE ARE ONLY FOUR OTHER HOUSE ON THAT ENTIRE STREET. NONE ON THE WEST SIDE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR OBVIOUSLY EXCESS FOR 23rd. DE-1 HAS BEEN APPROVED. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN APPROVED. TWO REASONS FOR DEBT NILE. ONE FOR THE LOCAL ROAD. SECOND ITEM HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. THAT WAS JUST MISSED ON THE INITIAL APPLICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT UP A SITE PLAN? >> WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH YOU SEEING EAST TAMPA OVERLAY. WE COULDN'T HAVE THE GUEST PARKING SPOT IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE UNITS. WE LOST A UNIT ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT WE ARE ONLY INCREASING ONE OR TWO CAR AS DAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: ZOOM OUT A BIT. A WHEEL AT THE TOP, THE VERY TIPPY-TOP. THE OTHER WAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING I WILL HAVE TO SAY IF WE CAN'T FIX THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T HAVE HOUSING IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE NEED SPACE FOR AN EXTRA PARKING SPACE FOR GUEST PARKING. THAT HAS TO BE IN THE LDC. THIS IS A WASTE OF -- AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF LAND. >> I AGREE. I BROUGHT THAT UP TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND I WAS TOLD BEING IN EAST TAMPA OVERLAY THAT VARIANCE WOULD NEVER BE APPROVED. I ALREADY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS NOW FOR -- I KNOW YOU GUYS WORKED, OLIVER RODRIGUEZ. HE HAS BEEN UP HERE MANY TIMES. WELL-RESPECTED. BEATS HIS HEAD AGAINST THE WALL TOO OF NOT BEING ABLE -- WE CAN ADD A SPACE. WE HAD DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT. BUT NOW WE LOST AN ENTIRE UNIT. I BUILT TWO TOWN HOMES DIRECTLY NORTH OF THAT. THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 12 ALWAYS EMPTY ON-STREET PARKING THAT PEOPLE CAN ALSO USE. THIS STREET IS -- JUST DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS IS PLENTY HE ROOM FOR PARKING. THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ON THE BACK SIDE OF FACING THE SOUTHERN STREET. I CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW. B BUT. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. BUY IS LOVE TO ADD A FIFTH ONE, TRUST ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD. >> THAT'S IT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO ASK STAFF. FOR THE FUTURE SO WE DON'T HAVE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE THAT OUTSIDE OF THE HEARING -- >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WILL TAKE IT UP -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS IT IS RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WILL NOT AFFECT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL NOT AFFECT THIS CASE BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE. I HEARD A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. HOP WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON THIS COMPLICATED TASK. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL JUST READ IT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADD IN 5 57. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIGH THAT -- I DON'T HAVE THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL DO IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: LAST PAGE. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OKAY. HANG ON -- COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, ARE YOU READY TO GO WITH IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF HE HAS GOT IT, YEAH. >>BILL CARLSON: OVERTURN THE DENIAL. ITEM NUMBER 57. MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SU 1-25-13 FOR THE PROPERTY 2219 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY MET THE SPECIFIC STANDARD IN CODE SECTIONS 27-1372 AND 27-129. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ADD REASONING BECAUSE THIS LOCAL ROAD ABUTS OR AS CLOSE TO AN INTERSTATE AND QUIETER. SO IT IS NOT -- IT WILL NOT IMPEDE THE TRAFFIC IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>BILL CARLSON: ACCEPT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONGRATULATIONS. ITEM NUMBER 58. >> YES, SIR, DANA CROSBY COLLIER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. ITEM 58 IS A POSSESSIONING HE VIEW OF AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DECISION MADE DURING ITS MEETING ON MARCH 3, 2025. MATTER ARC-25-55. RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 099 SOUTH ROME AVENUE. IN THE INITIAL ACTION TO T THE ARC, THE OWNERS REQUESTED TO REROOF A SPANISH ECLECTIC STYLE WITH SHINGLE ROOFING RATHER THAN REPLACING THE EXIST PARING WE WILL TILE ROOF. BECAUSE THE ROOFING MATERIAL SR. NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, APPROVAL WAS BEYOND THE SCOPE THAT THE KPT ADMINISTRATOR CAN APPROVE AND TAKEN TO THE CARC BOARD. ARC DENIED THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO REROOF WITH SHINGLES BECAUSE OF THE HYDE PARK GUIDELINES OF SIT OF TAMPA FINDING IT THE NOT PER MISSABLE TO REPLACE WITH A MATERIAL THAT IS THE CHARACTERISTIC OF BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. MARCH 14, 2025. APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL AND SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY AT YOUR MARCH 27 MEETING. I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE BACK-UP MATERIALS IN THE FILE THAT INCLUDE THE INITIAL APPLICATION, STAFF REPORT, STAFF'S PHOTO PRESENTATION AT THE ARC. PUBLIC COMMENT, ARC WRITTEN MINUTES, COMMENTS, AND OWNER'S AFFIDAVIT THAT THEY COMPLIED WITH OUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS 27-124 149. I JUST CIRCULATED A PACKET THAT INCLUDES THE HEARING PROCEDURES FOR A TODAY'S REVIEW AS WELL SAMPLE MOTIONS 27-16 OF THE CODE RELATING TO REVIEW HEARINGS. 27-115 OF THE CODE RELATING TO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. 27-11 OF RELATED TO THE INTENT OF THE ARC AND WE WILL STRAND PAGES OF THE HYDE PARK DESIGN GUIDELINES OPINION PURSUANT 27-16-J-2, CITY COUNCIL WILL APPLY A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW IN THAT MATTER. NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED AT ARC AND YOU MAY TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE. REMEMBER HOWEVER IN YOUR REVIEW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS STANDING IN THE VIEWS OF THE ARC AND APPLY ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCES TO THE FACTS BEFORE YOU ALIVING TO THE DECISION. APPLICATION IF ARC FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO REROOF THE SPANNIC ECLECTIC-STYLE PROPERTY WITH SHINGLE ROOFING RATHER THAN THE BARREL TILE ROOF. DENIED BY A 5-0 VOTE. AFTER ASCONSIDERING ALL YOUR EVIDENCE, YOU CAN AFFIRM OR APPROVE THE ARC'S DECISION TO DENY THE THING IS ROOF. OVERTURN THE ARC'S DECISION AND GRANT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE ROOF TO BE REROOF WITH SHINGLES OR REMAND BACK TO ARC WITH INSTRUCTIONS BASE ODD THAN REMAND. AND TURN IT OVER TO RON VILA WHO IS OUR STAFF ON THIS ITEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>RON VILA: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, RON VILA, STAFF WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION. TO CONTINUE THE INTRODUCTION FROM LEGAL, THIS IS ARC 25-0000-55. THIS IS FOR THE ADDRESS OF 909 SOUTH ROME AVENUE. THIS IS PRESENTED AT A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF THE ARC MARCH 3, 2025. PRIOR TO GOING TO THE ARC, STAFF FOUND THAT THIS EXCEEDED THE ADMINISTRATIVE SHORT UNDER CHAPTER 27-118 PARENTHESES 2T. AND SO STAFF -- STAFF SAID THAT IT DIDN'T MEET OUR CRITERIA. THEREFORE IT GOES THE COMMISSION TO MAKE -- TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OR DENY THE REQUEST MOVING FORWARD. AT THIS TIME, I WILL GO THROUGH THE PHOTO ASSAY TO BRING YOU CURRENT. THIS IS AN AERIAL. THIS IS ROME AVENUE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN ARTERIES INTO HYDE PARK VILLAGE AND INTO BAYSHORE AND THE STREET TO THE SOUTH IS JETTON. PROPERTY IS QUESTION IN HERE. TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF PLACE, THIS IS OUR VICINITY MAP. ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE MAJOR ARTERY COMING IN, ROME AVENUE. YOU SEE HYDE PARK VILLAGE IS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF HYDE PARK VILL VILLAGE. THIS IS ONE COUNTY BUILDINGS OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT FACES ROME. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION. IF YOU BREAK DOWN THE VERNACULAR OF THE BUILDING, YOU LOOK AT THE CHARACTER-DEFINING FEATURES. YOU SEE THE STUCCO, YOU SEE THE ARCHED WINDOWS. YOU SEE THE BALCONIES HERE WITH THE IRON WORK. YOU SEE THE COURTYARDS THEIR ARE VERY CHARACTERISTIC TO THE MEDITERRANEAN STYLE ARCHITECTURE. ONCE AGAIN, YOU SEE AN INTERIOR COURTYARD AND WHAT IN PRESENT DAY IS THE ROOF MATERIAL AND CURRENTLY IT HAS A BARREL TILE RO ROOF. SECONDARY STRUCTURE BEHIND TO THE WEST OF THE TWO MAIN BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING AREA. TO COMPLETE THE PHOTO ASSAY. ER TO STRUCTURES WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY PART OF THE PHOTO PRESENTATION AT THE ARC. THIS SON ROME. THIS IS ON ROME AS WELL. JUST TO CONCLUDE GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE. FRONT ELEVATION FACING ROME AND ALL THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THAT MEDITERRANEAN STYLE STRUCTURE. MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TOCK PROVIDE YOU WITH THE HYDE PARK DESIGN GUIDELINES WHICH FROM STAFF. AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION GIVES THEIR INFORMATION TO POSE ON A MOTION. SO THIS IS ON PAGE 53 OF THE SHIED HYDE PARK DESIGN GUIDELINES. I WILL RAZE FROM THE GUIDELINES. I HAVE IT UNDERLINED HERE. EACH OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE IMPORTANT OF DEFINING THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE AND THE SURROUNDINGS. EVERY EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE TO RETAIN THESE FEATURES AND REPAIR THEM. WHERE REPAIR IS NOT PRACTICAL, SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH COMPATIBLE MATERIALS. FURTHER DOWN, IT SPEAKS ON CLAY TILE IS OFTEN USED ON MEDITE MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE HOMES AND THIS BUILDING ALONG WITH OTHER ONES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. CONTINUING ON PAGE 54 OF THE HYDE PARK DESIGN GUIDELINES. THE MODIFICATION OR REPLACEMENT OF A ROOF OR ROOFING WILL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE OPINIONS. ADMINISTRATOR WILL REVIEW TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF THE ALTERATION. IF IT INVOLVES A MINOR ROOF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT WITH APPROPRIATE MATERIALS, STAFF MAY ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. IF THE APPLICATION INVOLVES ROOF REPAIRS THAT REACH BEYOND THE ROOF'S SURFACE WHERE THE ROOFING STERILE NOT SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING MATERIAL THAT THE ARC SHOULD REVIEW THE APPLICATION AT A REGULAR ARC PUBLIC HEARING. ON PAGE 55 OF THE WHO HYDE PARK DESIGN GUIDELINES. TALK WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE OR THE ORIGINAL ROOFING MATERIAL. REPAIR OR REPLACE THE ROOFING MATERIAL AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE IN SIZE, SHAPE, COLOR AND TEXTURE. NOT PERMISSIBLE TO REPLACE THE ROOF MATERIAL THAT IS NOT CHARACTERISTIC TO THE STYLE OF THE BUILDING. SO I KIND OF WROTE DOWN THE COMPOSITION OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH OUR CRY TER TRIA. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION ALSO DENIED THE REQUEST MOVING FORWARD. AND WE DO HAVE ONE MOTION ONE LETTER FROM HYDE PARK PRESERVATION IN C. AND THEY REVIEWED THIS AT ONE OF THEIR REGULAR MEETINGS AND THEY SAID THE REQUEST WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE ARCHITECTURE AND THE FINAL MOTION THAT THE BOARD IS OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE AND SUPPORTS CITY STAFF INCONSISTENT ABOUT THE GUIDELINES GOVERNED BY THE LOCAL HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF IT. AND I WILL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOME. SECOND, I HAVE A QUESTION. THEY WANT TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CLAY TILE WITH MODERN SHINGLES? >>RON VILA: YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SEEING WHAT IS APPROPRIATE ROOFING MATERIAL, WOOD SHINGLES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE CONSIDERING OR THEY ARE GOING FOR THAT MODERN LOOK. MY QUESTION IN THE MEDITERRANEAN STYLES AND SURROUNDING STRUCTURES. I AM ASSUMING 1920 STRUCTURES ALL HAVE THAT CLAY TILE. ARE THERE STRUCTURES THAT EX-THAT ARE MEDITERRANEAN STYLE AND HAVE THE WOOD SHINGLES. I KNOW IT IS KIND OF A ODD QUESTION, BUT DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF MEDITERRANEAN IF YOU GO WITH SHINGLES. >>RON VILA: GUIDELINES SHOW DIFFERENT MATERIALS FOR DIFFERENT KIND OF ARCHITECTURE. THE WOOD SHAKE SHINGLE WOULD BE MORE FOR A CRAFTSMAN-STYLE HOME. YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPATIBLE ROOFING MATERIAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REALLY TOE KEEP IT MEDITERRANEAN STYLE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT CLAY TILE. >>RON VILA: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PETITIONER? YES, SIR. >> HI, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOHN SIROKI. MYSELF AND MY WIFE LISA MOVED IN TO 909 SOUTH ROME AVENUE TEN YEARS AGO. AND TODAY I HAVE A STATEMENT -- A STORY AND A STATEMENT. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO STAY MY FIRST STATEMENT IS I'M HERE REQUESTING WHAT I FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THE BUILDING AT THIS TIME IN ITS LIFE CYCLE. AND I AM GOING TAKE A SECOND EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR APPROVAL. OKAY. IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THE BACKSTORY WITH WHAT HAPPENED. APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS AGO, THE RESIDENTS -- FIRST OF ALL, I AM ONE OF SIX CONDOMINIUM RESIDENTS IN 109 SOUTH ROME. PURCHASED A BRAND-NEW TILE ROOF FOR TWO OF THE BUILDINGS. THEY HAD A CONTRACTOR PUT THE ROOF ON FOR THEM. AND IT IS A CONCRETE S-SHAPED ROOF, NOT BARREL TILE AND NOT CLAY. IT IS CONCRETE. SOB 15 YEARS AGO, THE ROOF THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE CONTRACTOR WAS APPROXIMATELY 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE RESTORING IT WHEN THEY BUILT HOMES. SO IN ESSENCE WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BUILDING TODAY ARE CONCRETE TILES THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS OLD. SO NOW I WILL TELL YOU THE STORY. THE STORMS IN 2023 -- STARTING IN 2023 -- NOT LAST YEARS, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE AIR GOING UNDERNEATH THE TILES. IT IS CALLED "CHATTERING" I HAVE A ROOFING EXPERT JOHNNY GONZALEZ, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GONZALEZ. SHATTERING OF THE TILES THAT LIFT AND DROP. IT BREAKS THE CONNECTION POINTS ON THE TILES WHERE THEY ATTACH TO THE BATTENS, WHERE THEY ATTACH TO THE ROOF. WHAT HAPPENED AFTER WE HAD A SERIES OF STORMS IN 2023, WE HAD TILES THAT SLIPPED ALL OVER THE BUILDING. OUR FIRST THING WAS, WE HAD A ROOFER COME OUT, SPRAY SOME OF THE STICKY STUFF UNDERNEATH THEM AND PUT THEM BACK IN PLACE. LITTLE MORE TIME WENT ON AND MORE TILES CONTINUED TO SLIP FORWARD AND WHAT HAPPENED IS DURING THE MOM AND DAD SEASON FOR SQUIRRELS, THEY GOT IN AND THEY RAVAGED THE UNDERLAYMENT UNDER THE ROOF. ATE HOLES AT IT, DUG AT IT, CLAWED AT IF IT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ROOF IN BOTH OF BUILDINGS. WE HAVE SIX AND SEVEN ACTIVE LEAKS IN THE BUILDING. THAT WAS THE STORMS OF 2023. MOVING INTO 2024, WE WERE GOING TO APPLY WITH -- FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY. BEFORE I KNEW THERE WAS AN ARC AND I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR THE JOB THAT THEY DO TAKING CARE OF OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN HYDE PARK. THEY DONE AMAZING JOB. I LEARNED THROUGH THIS ADVENTURE THAT THEY ARE CALLED CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES. WE ARE AN UNCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE BUILT IN THE LATE ' 0s. NOT PART OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES. -- LATE '80. AND WE HAD OUR BOARD MEETING AND I WENT TO THEM SAYING THIS IS VERY PARTISAN BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD 14 YEARS TO COLLECT MONEY FOR REPLACEMENT OF A ROOF. NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE VALUE PEW OF A TILE ROOF TO REPLACE THIS. WE DOE HAVE MONEY FOR A SHINGL ROOF. WE LOOKED AT THE SHINGLE ROOFS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HAVE A LITTLE TOUR HERE TO SHOW YOU AS WELL. WE ARE SAYING THAT THE BLACK AND WHITE OR GRAY OR SILVER SHINGLE ROOFS REALLY DOESN'T FIT THE STYLE OF OUR BUILDING, WHICH IS N NOT -- IT IS MEDITERRANEAN BUT THE NAME OF OUR ASSOCIATION ARE THE CLOISTERS CONDOMINIUM OF HYDE PARK. CLOISTER AS YOU KNOW IS FRENCH. I HAD A COMPANY -- PERSON WHO WORKS FOR THE MAJOR FIRM HERE GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT STRUCTURE WE ACTUALLY WERE, AND IT WAS TOLD THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY FRENCH WHICH IS NOT SPANISH. WHAT REALLY MAKES US LOOK SPANISH IS THE RED ROOF ON THE BUILDING. BUT GOING BACK TO THIS, WE SAID WE REALLY CANNOT HAVE A BLACK ROOF AND A SILVER ROOF. WHEN YOU STAND ON OUR FRONT PORCH AND YOU LOOK DOWN THE STREET, THE CORNER OF JETTON AND ROME THERE ARE IS THE BUILDING THAT IS THERE. A CONDOMINIUM -- A THREE-UNIT CONDOMINIUM. I SAID WHATEVER THAT ROOF IS, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN OUR BUILDING BECAUSE WE ARE IN L HYDE PARK. AND HYDE PARK HAS A CERTAIN LOOK TO IT AND WE COULDN'T ISPUT A CERTAIN ROOF. WE CONTACTED RESIDENTS $8,000 ASSESSMENT TO GET TO THE $75,000 WE NEEDED TO GET THE ROOF THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. SO WE GOT THAT FAR ALONG. AND WE HIRED A ROOFING COMPANY. AND THEY WENT TO GET THE PERMIT AND WE LEARNED THAT THE ARC -- I LEARNED THAT THE ARC EXISTED AND WHAT ROLE THEY PLAYED IN APPROVING AND DISAPPROVING ROOFS. WE STARTED THAT PROCESS IN -- IN 2024. THE PERSON WHO STARTED THE PROCESS HAD TO MOVE AWAY TO GO TO SCHOOL ABROAD. THE PROPERTY RESUMED WITH A NUMBER MEMBER OF OUR BOARD. AND THAT MEMBER WAS TOO BUSY TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB. BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF WORK TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU WITH ALL THE MAILINGS AND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. I TOOK UP THE ISSUE OF GETTING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. SO WE RAISED THE MONEY. WE LEARNED THAT THIS ROOF IS A STATE-OF-THE-ART ROOF FROM O OWENINGS CORNING. THE ONE I BROUGHT SAMPLE IS A FIVE-COLOR ROOF. A TOP-OF-THE-LINE ROOF. THIS IS A BETTER VIEW OF OUR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. YOU CAN SEE THE OVERHANG OF THE TREES. THE CONCRETE ROOF THAT IS ON HERE IS NO LONGER MADE. SO IT IS NOT A MATTER OF GOING OUT AND BUYING MORE TILE TO FIX THIS ROOF, BECAUSE F DID YOU PUT YOU A DIFFERENT TILE ON THIS. A S-SHAPED TILE, NOT A BAR RILL TILE. -- BARREL TILE AND IT WOULDN'T MATCH HODGEPODGE AND DIRTY SPOTS AND CLEAN SPOTS. IF YOU REPLACE IT COMPLETELY WITH TILE BECAUSE OF THE TREE OVERHANG, IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, IT WILL BE FEILTH /* FILTHY DIRTY WITH MILDEW. STATE-OF-THE-ART OWINGS CORNING AND GUARANTEED EYE OWENS CORNING TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS. 25-YEAR PROJECT. I AM 36 YEARS OF AGE AND HOPEFUL LEAVE I WILL BE AROUND TO SEE THE THE NEXT ROOF THAT GOES ON. BUT WE ARE TALKING OF THE GOAL FOR EVERYTHING IS BUTTE AT THIS FACE OF HYDE PARK. THIS BUILDING AND A COUPLE OF THE NOTES FROM THE MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE WHEN THE COUNCIL. THE ARC COUNCIL THIS THEIR DISCUSSION. THEY DISCUSSED AMONG THEMSELVES AND SAID IF THIS BUILDING WAS PRESENTED TODAY AS A NEW BUILD, WOULD WE ALLOW IT. THEY SAID, YES, WE WOULD. WE WOULD ALLOW IT. THE SECOND BEIT OF THAT CONVERSATION, IF THE BUILDING WAS PAINTED ALL WHITE. NO DISCERNIBLE FEATURES FOR THAT PARTICULAR STYLE AVAILABLE FOR THAT BUILDING. MEANING THAT THE ROOF STYLE -- LENNY, IF I CAN HAVE ONE OF THE SAMPLES TO SHOW TO A TILE THAT, ONCE AGAINST -- SORRY, A SHINGLE THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE STREET, WHAT IS THERE, IT IS GOING TO RESEMBLE YOUR WOOD SALT LAKE SHINGLES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE IN OUR -- MY FEELING IS THAT ITS BUILDING BECAUSE IT IS FRENCH AND FRENCH CLOISTER USES SHINGLES. SORRY, USE SLIGHT TILES AND CEDAR SHAKE SHINGLES. THE CLOSEST ANYTHING WE WILL COME TO IS A FIVE-COLOR SHINGLE AND DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF COLORS IN THIS. I ALSO BROUGHT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: LIFT IT UP. WE CAN'T SEE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS A MATTER OF FACT, BRING IT TO THE FRONT OF THE TO HE HAD YUM SO IS THE CAMERA CAPTURE TO THE PODIUM SO THE CAMERA CAPTURES IT WELL. >> WE WANT TO SHOW THE BACK OF THIS TO SHOW. I WILL FLIP AHEAD OF MYSELF AND PUT THIS UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. THIS IS IF YOU CAN -- IF WE GO BACK TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUT IT DOWN THERE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME DOWN. >> IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME ON. GO BACK TO THIS PICTURE OF THE CONDOMINIUM. THIS IS WHAT I CAN FIND IN YELLOW FOR THAT YOU WILL SHOW WHAT THAT STEEL ROOF WILL RESEMBLE ON A MEDITERRANEAN. ONCE AGAIN A MEDITERRANEAN ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF EXAMPLE SHOWING THE GOLDEN YELLOW -- HONEY GOLDEN YELLOW WITH THAT TYPE OF A LOOK. THIS IS WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE. NOW I BROUGHT TO YOU ANOTHER PICTURE OF A BRAND-NEW BUILD. AND IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH HYDE PARK, THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO FORBICI. THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO FORBICI. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. A TWO-COLOR ASPHALT THING CANCELLED ROOF ON IT. IT IS A GORGEOUS BUILDING. I WOULD BE PROUD OWNER OF THAT BUILDING. RIGHT BEHIND FORBICI, THERE IS A BRICK BUILDING. ONCE AGAIN, IT HAS A TWO-COLOR ASPHALT SHINGLE. DIFFERENCE IN PRICE, MA BLACK AND WHITE OR SILVER AND GRAY ROOF WOULD HAVE COST US $36,000. WE HAD $38,000 IN THE BANK. WE TOOK A $8,000 ASSESSMENT FOR EVERY UNIT TO COME UP TO THE $75,000 TO PUT ON THE STATE-OF-THE-ART ROOF WE JUST SHOWED YOU. AT THIS LIFE CYCLE OF THE BUILDING, WE FEEL THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. HERE IS THE OTHER REASONS FOR THAT. THIS ROOF IS A 812 PITCH. OKAY. DURING THE MEETING WITH THE ARC, ANOTHER THING THAT WAS SAID TO ASSUME TO IT THE PERSON WHO WAS A CONTRACTOR OR AN ARCHITECT. HE MADE THE COMMENT, I WOULDN'T WALK IT. IT IS NOT SAFE. EVERY PERSON WHO HAS COME OUT TO WORK ON THE ROOF HAS TOLD US WE HAVE TO CHARGE EXTRA FOR THIS. THIS ISN'T THE APPROPRIATE ROOF. IT IS TOO SLIPPERY. WE CAN'T COME OUT. THEY CAN ATTEST TO THIS FROM WESTFALL. THEY HAD TO COME OUT. HAD OUR CHIMNEY CAP REMOVED. YOU WILL SEE IN THE PICTURES, THERE ARE -- THERE IS COVERS OVER THE CHIMNEYS. OKAY. THERE ARE COVERS OVER THE CHIMNEY WHERE THEY REMOVED THEM TO PUT BRAND-NEW CHIMNEY CAPS ON THEM. THE WORKERS THAT CAME OUT WERE SLIPPING AND SLIDING ALL OVER THIS ROOF WHEN IT WAS DAMP DURING THE HURRICANE. IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. I THINK THE CUTOFF FOR A TILE ROOF IS A 912 PITCH WE ARE AT A 812 PITCH. NOT SAFE AS WHAT CAME FROM T THE ARC PERSON WHO MADE THAT COMMENT HIMSELF DURING THIS REVIEW. NOW, I WROTE A LOT ALONG THE WAY DURING THIS JOURNEY. THE ONE THING I SHARE -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE ESSENCE OF THE ARC. UNDERSTAND WORKING WITH THE ARC WITH HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND THE AMAZING WORK THEY DO WITH THAT PRESERVATION. THE REASON WHY WE FEEL THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES. INSURANCE ISSUE OF HAVING A BARREL TILE ROOF. INSURANCE COMPANIES NO LONGER WANT TO TAKE CARE OF ANY DAMAGES TO THE ROOF. THEY REJECT IT. AND PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO SUING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, GIVING IT TO THESE THIRD-PARTY PEOPLE THAT SPEND YEARS TO COLLECT THE MONEY AND THEY PUT ON A ROOF AFTER THEY HAVE COLLECTED LIKE TWO TIMES THE VALUE. IT IS A BIG THING THAT WAS ON MR. DELAWARE SAN T-- MR. DeSANTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO GET THIS TO STOP. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THE FIRST MEETING WITH THE ARC, IF WE WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING ON A ROOF FROM THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY WHICH WAS BLAVA, OKAY. THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS PRODUCT WHICH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN ONLY SEE ONE AT A TIME. >> THIS PRODUCT IS MADE OUT OF PLASTIC. THEY CALL IS SYNTHETIC, BUT REALLY RECYCLED COKE BOTTLES, OKAY, SODA BOTTLES. THEY ASKED US TO CONSIDER THIS. THIS MATERIAL IS NOT IN CONSIDERATION FOR US BECAUSE, A, IT WOULD BE SO WET AND SLIPPERY AT ANY GIVEN TIME BECAUSE IT IS PLASTIC. NOTHING FOR A WORKER TO WORK ON IT. WE ARE ACTUALLY DUE TO BE TENTED AGAIN. THIS IS -- WHEN YOU PAY FOR TENTING THEY CHARGE WAY MORE NOR 812 PITCH THAN IS A STANDARD PLACE. AND WE ARE DUE TO BE TENTED A SECOND TIME. I LEARNED ALONG THE WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS ROOF AND IT APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT THIS WILL BE APPROVED THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HISTORIC OR I SHOULD SAY THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY IS NONCONTRIBUTING AND CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES. BECAUSE IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO PUT PLASTIC ON A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN CAN'T USE VINYL SIDING OR PLASTIC SOFFIT, SIDING OR ANYTHING IN THE FASCIA. IT HAS TO STAY SEPARATED. I LEARNED THROUGH THIS WHOLE JOURNEY, THERE IS A DISCERNIBLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONTRIBUTING AND NONCONTRIBUTING. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY ASKING YOU FOR CONSIDERATION FOR US TO SPEND TO SPEND THE MONEY HAVING A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN -- TO IT BE THE OWNER OF THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING WITH THIS ASPHALT ROOF THAT WAS TWO BLOCKS FROM US. WALKED FROM OUR PROPERTY TO THE MEAT MARKET AND BACK. OTHER EXISTING PROPERTY THAT I SHOWED YOU. I LOOKED ACROSS THE STREET. THAT WAS OUR ENTIRE INSPIRATION TO MAKE THE $8,000 ASSESSMENT WAS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK OUT OUR FRONT DOOR. YOU WALK THERE. YOU SEE THAT. YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, YOU SEE THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT BUILDING. I HAD A PICTURE OF IT HERE SOME PLACE AS WELL. OUR GOVERNMENT BUILDING. SO I AM DOWN TO MY TIME. BUT THIS IS THE ROOFING PRODUCT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL ON. WE WILL EVEN GO ONE STEP FURTHER. IF THE COUNCIL WILL DETERMINE THAT KEEPING WITHIN THE STYLE -- THEY CAN ACTUALLY PICK THE COLOR THAT YOU WANT. IF YOU FEEL WE NEED TO STAY WITH RED, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT WE VERY MUCH LIKE THE -- THE ROOF THAT WE SHOWED. THIS IS THE RED. BUT WE VERY MUCH LIKE THE ROOF THAT WE SHOWED WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A -- A CEDAR SHAKE SHINGLE, IF YOU WILL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. TIME IS UP FOR THAT PRESENTATION. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. YOU HAD A QUESTION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. SO LOOKING AT THE STYLE OF YOUR BUILDING, YOU HAVE BALCONIES AND YOU HAVE THE ARCHWAYS AT THE TOP OF THE WINDOWS. TO ME, THAT IS MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE. WHEN I THINK OF FRENCH CLOISTER, I THINK OF VERSAILLES. AND THEY HAVE OPEN ARCHWAYS -- THEY HAVE ARCHWAYS BUT LIKE OPEN COURTYARD. THIS IS, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, EVERYTHING -- THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A MEDITERRANEAN STYLE HOME AND MEDITERRANEAN STYLE HOME ALMOST ALWAYS HAS THE CLAY TILE. CURVED PIECES ON THE ROOF. GOING TO THE SHINGLES, AS WAS JUST SHOWN, JUST COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE DESIGN OF THIS HOUSE. AND THE ONES THAT YOU SHOWED WERE, LIKE, 1970s, 1980s, THE ONE WITH THE RED BRICK. THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE THAN THE ONE FARTHER DOWN LIKE THE GRAY COLOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN MY OPINION THE DESIGN IS MEDITERRANEAN AND NOT CLOISTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER, APPLICANT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NOBODY IN THE PUBLIC. STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION? >>RON VILA: JUST BRIEFLY. AGAIN, RON VILA, STAFF WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THIS IS THE PROPERTY WHY IF HE. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THIS. MANY EXAMPLES SHOWN. I DON'T THINK IT HAD ANY RELEVANCE TO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY. THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1988. AND THE INSPIRATION OF THE DESIGNER HAS THESE COMPONENTS. HE HAS STATED THAT THAT ROOF HAS BEEN CHANGED ONE TIME. THAT IS TRUE, BUT THE ORIGINAL ROOF MATCHED IS HERE. THAT WAS THE INSPIRATION OF THE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD. YOU? KNOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT ROOF MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT I THINK ARE COMPATIBILITY. I BELIEVE THAT THE SHINGLE ROOF THAT IS SHOWN IS NOT COMBATABLE WITH THIS STYLE. HE USED SOME WORDS THAT IS BEAUTIFUL AND INSURANCE AND DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO THE DECISION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE TODAY. THE DECISION THAT STAFF MADE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION IS ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE. THIS ROOF IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE STYLE OF HOUSE THAT IS SHOWN. IT WENT TO THE BOARD. IT WAS A 5-0 VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. I CONCLUDE MY PORTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. VILA. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF -- LEGAL QUESTION. THIS CASE WAS PRESENTED TO ARC. ARC MADE ITS DETERMINATION BASED ON THE CODE. WHEN YOU GAVE US OUR GUIDANCE FOR THE CASE. YOU SAID WE ARE BASICALLY STANDING IN THE SAME SHOES THAT THE ARC, USING THE SAME CODE THAT THEY USE. WE CAN'T CHANGE THE CODE. WE ARE INTERPRETING WHAT THE CODE IS. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THE CODE STATES ONE, WE SHOULD INTERPRET WHAT THE CODE IT. >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT'S CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY SAYINGS THAT IS NOT FAIR. WE HAVE TO INTERPRET WHAT THE CODE IS. DANA YOU HAVE TO READ THE CODE AND GO WITH WHAT THE CODE STATES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK STAFF ONE QUESTION REAL FAST, PLEASE? WHEN BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ARE PURCHASED OR A UNIT LIKE THIS PURCHASED SOME KIND OF DISCLOSURE FROM THE SELLERS THAT DISCLOSE THAT THESE RULES ARE IN PLACE? >>RON VILA: UP TO THE REALTOR TO STATE ON RECORD WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA MOVING FORWARD. IF THERE IS AN HOA THAT HAS TO BE ADHERE TO, THAT IS PARTED IT. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTAL REVIEW. I GOT THAT QUESTION A LOT. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS STANDARDIZED THROUGH THE REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE IF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WHAT ZONING APPLICATION ARE RELEVANT TO THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT. SO IT IS DISCLOSED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO OTHER COMMENTS, THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE REBUTTAL OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WISH TO PROV PROVIDE. I DO RESPECT EVERYBODY'S DECISION AND OPINIONS, BUT THE THING THAT -- THE BIGGEST QUESTION IN MY MIND IS THAT WE ARE BEING HELD TO THE SAME SET OF GUIDELINES BEING A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, OKAY, AS CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ARE. AND WITH THE SAFETY ISSUE, WITH THE PITCH OF THE ROOF, IT IS ON THE VERGE OF, LIKE, THIS ROOF SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BE MADE IN TODAY'S WORLD AT THE ANGLE THAT IT IS. IT IS HAVE I, VERY DANGEROUS. WE ARE TRYING TO DO SO MANY THINGS TO MAKE WITH SAFER AND BEING HELD TO THE NONCONTRIBUTING AND CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES. AND IT IS LIKE -- I KNOW THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO. AND ONCE AGAIN I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO CHANGE THE -- CHANGE THE BUILDING TYPE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A HISTORIC BUILDING. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN A HISTORIC SOCIETY. SAID IF IT WAS A BRAND-NEW BUILD TODAY, THEY WOULD ALLOW THE BUILD. AND STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION OF WHAT THE STRUCTURE REALLY IS. BECAUSE EVEN THE NAME OF OUR UNIT IS THE CLOISTERS OF HYDE PARK CONDOMINIUM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL COLOR WAS 38 YEARS WHEN IT WAS BUILT. T COULD HAVE BEEN WHITE. WE HAVE A COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE. WHEN WE HAD THE PERSON WHO WROTE UP THE RHETT VIEW THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE ARC BREAKING DOWN THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THEY PRESENTED THE FINDING WHY IS THEY SAID IT WAS AS FRENCH, OKAY, MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE VILLA. DEFINITELY THESE TYPE OF ROOF S ARE RELEVANT. THEY HAVE ALL THREE. BARREL, SLATE AND CEDAR SHAKE SHINGLES IN FRANCE. UP SPENT A LOT OF NIGHT LOOKING AT THAT TIME PICTURES THOSE. I FEEL AESTHETICALLY THE ROOF PUT ON IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT ON WILL BE BETTER FIT AND CLEANER, LONGER. GUARANTEED TO LOOK BRAND-NEW FOR 15 YEARS. IF WE PUT ON ANOTHER CONCRETE TILE ROOF, IT IS GOING TO BE DIRT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND TOO STEEP OF A PITCH TO BE PRESSURE WASHED AND CLEANED. YOU ARE TAKING A PERSON'S RISK. WHEN SAID THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO FOR THIS BUILDING AN ITS LIFETIME NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN 36 YEARS AGO. WE ARE ALL AT THE END OF THE DAY TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING. TRYING TO BEAUTIFY AND KEEP HYDE PARK BEAUTIFUL. I DON'T THINK WE ARE SETTING A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT BY ALLOWING A CHANGE OF MATERIAL IN THIS -- INTO THIS BUILDING BECAUSE IT IS SAFER. IT DOES -- IT IS BEAUTIFUL. AND IT ACTUALLY FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALREADY ON THE BLOCK. I AM NOT ASKING TO COVER IT WITH SOLAR PANELS OR TO MAKE 3-D BUTTERFLY-SHAPED LASER CUT DESIGNS TO GO ON THE ROOF. WE ARE ASKING EVERYTHING PRESENT ALL THE WAY TOO HYDE PARK SHOPPING VILLAGE INCLUDING THE BRAND-NEW STRUCTURES BUILT. THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION WE ARE ASKING FOR. KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEAUTIFUL AND TO, IT YES, CHANGE THE STYLE, BUT IT IS GOING TO LOOK APPROPRIATE AND LOOK BEAUTIFUL LIKE THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. THAT IS WHY I CAME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TO PRESENT PRESENT THIS A SECOND TIME HEAPING FOR YOUR POSITIVE CONSIDERATION. I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCIL LIKE TO DISCUSS IS THIS? ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION? I GUESS. LET'S GO FOR A MOTION. WHO WANTS TO DO A MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE ARC'S DECISION TO DENY THOR IS I HAVE IT YACHT OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PROPERTY 099 SOUTH ROME AVENUE BECAUSE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING BARREL TILE ROOF WITH A SHINGLE ROOF IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE HYDE PARK DESIGN STANDARDS THAT STATES PERMISSIBLE TO REPLACE THE ROOF. SAID SPANISH ECOLLECT CAN PARTICULAR IN CHAPTER 27 OF THE COULD HE HAD. DOCTOR SPANISH ECLECTIC IN CHAPTER 27 OF THE CODE. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING. MAY BE NOT ABOUT THE 1920s, BUILT IN 1988. ABOUT THE DESIGN, IT WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC STRUCTURE. YOU HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS LIKE THE BALCONIES. SPECIFIC DETAILS LIKE THE ARCHED WIN WINDOWS AS SHOWN IN THE PHOTO AS BE MEANT TO LOOK WHAT IS IN HISTORIC HYDE PARK. THEREFORE THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO DENY THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND IS A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. SORRY, GUYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 06. ITEM NUMBER 06. ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION. DO WE HAVE STAFF TO PRESENT? THERE WE GO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, CARL BRODY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE WE CONSIDERED -- ACTUALLY THAT YOU LOOKED AT BACK ON MAY 15 IT PROVIDES A CODE OF CONDUCT FOR CONTRACTORS. AT THE MAY 15 MEETING EVERYBODY WAS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORDINANCE BUT WE WANTED TO LOOK CLOSER AT THE ENFORCEMENT. I TALKED TO COUPLE OF YOU SEPARATELY SO FOLKS KNOW WE ARE NOT BREACH ING ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS RULES. I STALKED TO YOU SEPARATELY, AND CAME UP WITH THE BEST MOVING FORWARD STEP TO PUT -- ENFORCE THE POSITIONS IN THE EBO POLICY THAT WAY WE CAN WATCH. SEE HOW THIS WORKS. IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, WE WILL MAKE CHANGES MORE DISCREETLY AND NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND CHANGE THE WHOLE ORDINANCE AGAIN. THAT IS THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE AND COPIES OF THE EBO ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS. REQUEST THAT YOU MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR SECOND READING AND YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. YOUR LIGHT WAS ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR WORK TO ME AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU SPOKE TO. I THINK THIS A GREAT STEP FORWARD. SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR. WE SEE TO OURSELVES. I AM SURE YOU SEE IT YOURSELF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO START THIS PATH FORWARD AND KNOWING WE CAN MODIFY AS NEEDED. SO JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. NO ONE ELSE, I WILL READ THE ORDINANCE. FILE NUMBER E 2025-8 CHAPTER 26.5, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE OF CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, 26.5, ARM ARTICLE 1, OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING SECTION 26.5-4, CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF BUSINESS CONDUCT SAID AMENDMENT PROVIDING FOR A CODE OF BUSINESS CONDUCT FOR PARTIES CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY PROVIDING ENFORCEMENT THROUGH DIVISION OF EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, PROVIDING FOR A DISPUTE RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR AN APPEAL PROCESS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PART OF ORDINANCES COMMON FLICT THEREWITH. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. I FORGOT TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: I RESTATE -- OR I -- I REPEAT MY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. DO YOU HAVE THAT LOADED? FIRST READING. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. WE HAD ASKED FOR -- >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND IT ADOPTION OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33612. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD TO RUN OUTSIDE TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT REAL FAST. MR. BRODY, THANK YOU NOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AGAIN. THIS CAME ABOUT. AN INDIVIDUAL -- THEY CAN COME FORWARD IF THEY WANT. I WILL TELL THEM THIS IS ON READING CLAIM FORWARD ON A SAD STORY, AN INTERACTION HE WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD BREAK ALL OF OUR HEARTS WITH REGARDS TO THE ALLEGATIONS. SO THIS -- THIS HELPS, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS FUTURE CHALLENGES LIKE THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL WORK. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAD EARLIER TAKEN UP ITEM NUMBER -- WHAT WAS IT, THE FIRE STATION ONE. 70. ITEM 70 FOR FIRE STATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT CHIEF TRIPP IS ONLINE AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM PROCUREMENT MERE. CAN WE BRING CHIEF TRIPP UP? THERE WE GO. CHIEF TRIPP. START THIS AND STAFF AT THE PODIUM OR KICK IT RIGHT TO THEM. >>CHIEF TRIPP: CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOUD AND CLEAR. >>CHIEF TRIPP: OKAY, ALL RIGHT ARE. ONCE AGAIN BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF. I DO HAVE KEN, MY PROJECT MANAGER ON LINE AS WELL. AND, OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS THAT I COULDN'T ANSWER. AND HOPEFULLY MR. RICHARD WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WE WILL GO WITH PROCUREMENT HERE. >> CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION. RICHARD MUDDERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION. I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KICK IT OFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO DO THE INQUI INQUISITION. OKAY. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO I CALLED UP THE CHIEF IN BETWEEN TO GET UP SOME BACKGROUND AND, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND SO FORTH SO I WILL GO THROUGH SOME FACTS AND HISTORY ON THIS. SOME STUFF THAT MAY PREDATE YOU BUT STUFF TO ME COMPELLING FACTS AND REQUIRE A CLEAR ANSWER OF WHY WE ARE HERE ON THIS. I AM SAYING THIS BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING OF A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY NEEDS THIS AND A COMMUNITY I FEEL IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OFTEN GETS IGNORED AND THAT IS NORTH TAMPA. AGAIN AS I INDICATED BEFORE, VERY BRIEFLY, 2021, '22, WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS LAND. A LONG STORY TO. THIS FIRST WE WILL DO 24 IN NEW TAMPA. WE DECIDED TO DO IT IN NORTH TAMPA OUTSIDE OF 33647. TO HELP WITH 13. STATION 25 WHICH IS THE DOWNPAYMENT. EASY WIN BECAUSE THE BUILDING WAS ALREADY THERE. WE GOT TO WORK ON 2023, TALKING OF '24 IN TERMS OF FUNDING IT. IT IS PART OF THE MILLAGE. IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH. I TRY DO A LIMITED TAX TO HELP FUND IT. AMONG OTHER THINGS. DOESN'T GO THROUGH. I SAY, OKAY, FINE. LET'S BOND IT. MY POINT IN TALKING OF THE TAXES THAT I BELIEVE IN THIS SO WERE THAT I SAID, I WANT TO RAISE TAXES FOR IT. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT ABOUT THIS. I HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. A BIG DEAL OBVIOUSLY. 2024, WE DO THE BONDING THEN TO FUND THIS. THERE IS A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THERE ARE, AS WELL AS FLEET NEAT NANCE. WE PASSED DESIGN IN THE BUDGET OF 2023. 2024 WE LEARNED -- AND WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS. WHICH IS THAT GROUNDBREAK ALSO BEGIN IN MARCH -- GROUNDBREAKING WILL BEGIN IN MARCH OF 2026. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN IN MARCH '26 LET'S DEE BETTER. WHOLE THING OF THIS COUNCIL LET'S DO BETTER. BUT WE FOUND OUT THAT GROUNDBREAKING WILL BE SIX MONTHS AFTER MARCH OF '26. INSTEAD FIRST TO THIRD TO FIRST TO SECOND, WE ARE TOLD WE ARE PRETTY MUCH BACK AT HOME. THAT IS THE FRUSTRATION. BIGGEST FRUSTRATION THIS IS BIGGER MICROCOSM ON I SHALL PEWS. IF YOU TAKE DOWNTOWN FIRE RESCUE, RIGHT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS YEAR SOMEBODY. I DON'T REPRESENT DOWNTOWN DIRECTLY. WE ALL DO IN A WAY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMEONE PUT IN THE BUDGET DESIGN FOR A DOWNTOWN STATION LONG PAST DUE. WE HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING THESE THINGS. WHEN I SEE WHAT IS DONE AGAIN. THREE YEARS AFTER PASSING DESIGN, WE WILL HAVE GROUNDBREAKING AND DESIGN TOOK A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. THAT IS THE BIG, BIG CHALLENGE. MY BIG QUESTION IS, TO ANYBODY CAN ANSWER THIS WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENED TO DELAY IT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS ON TO HAVE THE DELAY THAT CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT WAS FAR TOO LONG. THAT IS THE QUESTION WE NEED ANSWERS AND THAT FRUSTRATES, I THINK, EVERYBODY HERE. IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, SIR, HAVE AT IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I COUPLE ON TO HIS QUESTION REAL QUICK SO THAT IT BLENDS TOGETHER? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF YOU CAN ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S QUESTION IN RELATION TO THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT WHICH IS MOVING ALONG. IT IS AT PHASE WHERE IT IS ALMOST DONE. THAT THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. SO PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF, FAIR OAKS HAS MOVED. AND THAT IS A PROJECT THAT I VOTED ON SINCE I AM ON COUNCIL SEND THIS STARTED BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. >>GWEN HENDERSON: BEFORE HURTAK WAS ON COUNCIL. AND THE QUICK QUESTION IS, HONESTLY, THIS APPEARS TO BE -- NOT EVEN A QUESTION. IT IS A STATEMENT. THIS APPEARS TO BE A SLOW WALK. SOMEBODY IS SLOW WALK CAN THIS. AND WE ARE NOW HAVING YOU IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY IS NOT CHIEF TRIPP. SHE HAS BEEN GIVING THE INFORMATION. I AM SURE HER FOLKS ARE GIVING HER HELL. AND SO THIS IS A CONTRACT -- WE HAVE NOW ISOLATED THIS PROBLEM TO YOUR DIVISION. AND THAT -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I WANT THE ANSWER COMPARED TO A FAIR OAKS. HOW IS THAT MOVING ALONG, BECAUSE I TOOK A TOUR TWO WEEKS AGO. IT IS ALMOST DONE. JUST IN COMPASSION TO THAT. GIVE YOU THESE QUESTIONS RATHER THAN GIVING A REPORT. >> RICHARD MUDDERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION. I DO NOT HAVE ALL THE DATES AND FACT FOR FAIR OAKS. SO I CAN'T -- I CAN'T DO AN APPLES TO APPLES THERE. IT IS MOVING ALONG EXCEPTIONALLY WELL SINCE IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU SAID DESIGN WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 6 OF THIS YEAR. THAT WHEN THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT WAS -- WAS -- AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, IF I CAN -- AND AT YOUR PLEASURE BUT THE SAME SLIDES FROM FEBRUARY WHEN I WENT THROUGH -- DO I NEED TO GO THROUGH THOSE OR CAN WE START? >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU MAY PROCEED. >>SPEAKER: AS FAR AS THE CURRENT DATES THE PERIOD OF SERVICE APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 6, 461 CALENDAR DAYS AFTER IDEAS TO PROCEED. NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN ON MARCH 20 OF THIS YEAR. SO THEY HAD CONTRACTUALLY GAVE THIS FIRM 416 CALENDAR DAYS. SITTING HERE IN FEBRUARY I DID THE QUICK MATH IN MY HEAD 15 MONTHS AND I PROBABLY SAID ABOUT MAY. IF I TOOK MARCH OR SOMEBODY ELSE SAID MARCH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I TRY TO SOLELY STICK TO THE FACTS THAT ARE IN THE CONTRACT. NOW I PULL UP -- AT THAT TIME, KEEP IN MIND WE DON'T HAVE ANNUAL SCHEDULE. WE ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED, WE GET A SCHEDULED FROM THE TERM. THIS SCHEDULED FROM THE FIRM AS OF THREE DAYS AGO. ON THEIR SCHEDULE. I NEED TO MAKE THIS SMALLER. NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN -- PETITION PUT MARCH 24 AND 461 DAYS WOULD PUT US ON JUNE 24, 2026. WE LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE. COMPLETELY FINISH WHERE THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS JUNE 9, 2026. THOSE 461 DAYS CONTRACTUALLY, I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT WE AS A CITY BOTH COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION AGREED TO. AND NOW IF YOU LOOK FROM JUNE 26 ALL THE WAY DOWN WHAT YOU ARE CALLING GROUNDBREAKING OF SEPTEMBER, THAT IS ALL CITY. THAT -- THAT IS US APPROVING THE GMP. BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL TWICE BECAUSE OVER $20 MILLION. THOSE ARE THE STUFF WE CAN KIND OF CONTROL A LITTLE BIT AT THAT POINT, BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. I MEAN, THAT -- THAT IS ALL I CAN SPEAK ON AS FAR AS HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHAT THOSE DATES. NOT A LOT CHANGED SINCE FEBRUARY WHEN WE HAD THE SAME DISCUSSIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK -- >>LUIS VIERA: 45 SECONDS FOR THAT. ONE THING IS YOU CAN TRY TO EXPLAIN THINGS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. BUT A DIPOSTE FACT WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE. NOT HAVE GROUNDBREAKING SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2026. NOTHING CAN DIVORCE ME FROM THE STATEMENT THAT IS UNESPECIALLY SOFTBALL. MARCH -- OR MAY OF 2026, THE SAME PRESENTATION WAS DONE AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH THESE DATES AND SO ON. THE PUSH WAS TO SEE HOW WE COULD DO BEFORE THAT DATE, BEFORE MARCH OF 2026. NOW BEING TOLD A THIRD OF YEAR LATER AND ANOTHER ISSUE, IN THE WORLD DID IT TAKE THAT LONG TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL IF ONLY GOT US TO FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. WHY DID IT TAKE THAT LONG TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL? NO AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION COUNTY HAVING THIS GROUNDBREAKING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2026 IS UNACCEPTABLE AND SHOWS QUITE FR FRANKLY NOT A COMMITMENT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS PROJECT. SOMEBODY TRY TO CON OTHERWISE AND PICK UP A PHONE AND TELL ME. A BECAUSY CERTAIN PLAIN FACTS THAT WILL NOT BE DIVORCED FROM REA REALITY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS -- WE WILL MAKE THIS MAN DRIVE FROM TALLAHASSEE ESSENTIALLY TO COME DOWN FOR THIS. THERE IS WANTS AND NEEDS, AND WITH THE GROWTH WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN THE CITY. YOU KNOW, FEAR RESPONSE TIME, FIRE FIGHTERS, FIRE STATIONS, I MEAN SOMETHING THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE NEED. DOWNTOWN WAS MENTIONED. I CAN TALK OF OTHER PARTS OF THE SIT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING IS THAT -- I MEAN, BEFORE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ELECTED AND CAME ON THIS BODY. THIS WAS DISCUSSED. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TALKED ABOUT THIS NOR A LONG, LONG TIME IN RESPONSE TO THE UNION AND IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY NEED. IT IS JUST DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THIS MOVING SO SLOWLY IN COMPASSION TO SO MANY OTHER CITY PROJECTS. I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY MORNING AT HANNAH. HANNAH WENT UP VERY QUICK -- VERY QUICKLY AT A VERY BIG COST AND THAT WAS DONE. WE ARE ASKING FOR A SIMPLE FIRE STATION HERE. I AM NOT POINTING FINGERS AT YOU BECAUSE THIS IS PREDATING WHEN YOU CAME ON BOARD. YOU ARE JUST DOING YOUR JOB IN ANSWERING THE REQUEST HE IS. BUT I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE DISAPPOINTMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA BECAUSE HE FOUGHT SO HARD FOR YEARS. AS HAS THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL IN BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. WE WANT TO SEE THIS DONE. IF WE ARE GOING TO GET A GROUNDBREAKING IN SEPTEMBER OF '26. HE HAS LESS THAN TWO MONTHS HERE. HE WORKED HARD AROUND HE DOESN'T EVEN GET TO ESSENTIALLY ENJOY THE FRUITS OF HIS HARD WORK. BUT IT IS NOT ABOUT HIM, IT IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. THANK YOU. CONCURRENCY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, I SUPPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO WITH THIS. IT IS NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT -- THEIR THIS WILL HAD BEEN RESOLVED WITHIN A YEAR. AND THAT WAS LIKE 20 121. AND THEN MORE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SOUTH TAMPA NEEDS MORE STATIONS AND RESOURCES AS WELL. THERE ARE REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT WE HAD TO THIS ONE FIRST. FIRST IN LINE AND FRUSTRATING IT HAS TAKEN THAT LONG TO DO THIS. MY COLLEAGUES AND BE EVERYBODY ELSE. NEXT WEEK, DON'T FORGET, IT IS ON THE AGENDA TO POTENTIALLY USE CRA MONEY WITH APPROVAL ON THE DOWNTOWN FIRE STATION. BUT WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE THAT -- YOU KNOW IN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. PRICES GO UP AND DOUBLED OR MORE. AND ALSO, SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE TOLD ME THAT -- THAT THE MAYOR JUST DOESN'T WANT TO BUILD A FIRE STATION AT ALL. AND I WAS TOLD THAT AFTER THE LAST ELECTION THAT THE MAYOR WAS HIGH FIVING IT SAYING WE MADE IT FOUR YEARS WITHOUT A FIRE STATION AND WE WILL MAKE IT ANOTHER FOUR. FIRST OF ALL, DISRESPECTFUL TO THE FIRE FIGHTERS, MEN AND WOMEN THAT PUNT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY DAY. DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC WHO NEED RESOURCES WHEN HAVING A HEART ATTACK OR FIRE. THEY NEED RESOURCES. IF A MAYOR FEELS THEY WILL GO TO THE SYSTEM WE HAVE AMBULANCES INSTEAD OF FIRE STATIONS. MAKE THAT ARGUMENT AND LET'S DECIDE IT. SLOW WALKING IT AND TRYING TO TELL THE PUBLIC GOING TO DO IT AND DELAYS IT. THAT IS DISINGENUOUS. I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO COME FORWARD. CHIEF OF STAFF IS NOT HERE AND MAYOR IS NOT HERE. WHY IS THE MAYOR AGAINST FIRE STATION AS SOON AS IF SHE IS, WHY CAN'T SHE GIVE TAAN ALTERNATIVE PLAN WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. THE FIRE CHIEF STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AND FIRE FIGHTERS WHO WANT BETTER EQUIPMENT AND SAFER IS ENVIRONMENTS AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE TREATED BETTER AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. CAN YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE FIRST PAGE OF THAT. >> OF WHICH ONE, THE SCHEDULE? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, PLEASE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WASN'T THE FIRST PAGE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS WHAT I WANT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR SO LONG, BOUNDARY SURVEY, TOP GRAPHICAL SURVEY. MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS BUILT AHEAD OF TIME. UNLESS WE BUILT THIS ON A CLIFF, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAD THIS AHEAD OF TIME AND KNOWING WE WANTED TO GET THIS DONE. NOBODY TALKED ABOUT THIS. ON A CLIFF HAVING TWICE THE COST IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST TELLS THUS IS A SLOW WALK. WE COULD HAVE BUILT ANOTHER -- I MEAN, THIS GOING TO BE THE COST OF ANOTHER RECREATION CENTER. AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. HE TALKED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER CITIES. NO ONE IS BUILDING A FIRE STATION THIS EXPENSIVE. I JUST -- I AM -- I AM FINE -- YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE ON THIS VERY NEXT ITEM AFTER THIS TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE WANT OUR MONEY TO GO TOWARD BUILDING SOMETHING. I AM TELLING YOU. I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF CITY BUILDINGS UNTIL THIS IS DONE. THIS IS ENOUGH. I HAD ENOUGH OF THIS. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET OUR VOICE HEARD. IT SIMPLY IT. IT IS DISAPPOINTING. IT IS FRUSTRATING. HE TALKED TO CHIEF TRIPP. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WELL, AND I AM -- I AM HEARING EXACT SAME FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS BEEN HIRED TO HELP HER MOVE THIS FORWARD JUST -- WE CAN'T GET IT DONE ANY FASTER AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY THIS BUILDING IS SO DIFFICULT COMPARED TO ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT WE HAVE BELT, INCLUDING HANNAH CITY CENTER. WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG COMPARED TO ANY OF THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS? >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE CAN'T ANSWER THAT. >> TO TAKE AS LONG TO CONSTRUCT? >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT TO CONSTRUCT, BUT JUST TO PLAN. >> SITE SELECTION WAS A BIG DEAL. NOT UNTIL MAY OF 2024 WHEN CONTRACT ADMIN ACTUALLY GOT INVOLVED IN ADVERTISING THIS TO SELECT A FIRM. I TOLD YOU NUMEROUS TIMES A THIS PODIUM, TAKES SIX MONTHS TO TOP GET THROUGH THAT CCNA PROCESS TO GET SOMEONE SELECTED BETWEEN MAY AND WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY SELECTED AUGUST AND -- WE ARE IN THAT SIX MONTHS. ACTUALLY TOOK SEVEN AND A HALF MONTHS BUT WE HAD TWO STORMS IN THERE. AND THE FEAR CHIEF HEADS UP OUR. -- NOTHING SLOW WALKED. ALWAYS TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS.EVERY DESIGN TYPICALLY TAKES 12 TO 18 MONTHS. I SAID THAT NUMEROUS TIMES AT THIS PODIUM. NOT SLOW WALKED AT THIS POINT. SITE SELECTION AND EVERYBODY FINALLY AGREEING WHERE THIS WAS GOING TO GO TO ADVERTISE IT. THAT COULD -- THAT COULD TAKE -- PLAY A ROLE WHAT TOOK UP SOME OF THAT YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS FAIR. >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. SO FOR KNEE, I -- SO FROM ME. WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU, THE TALK OF THIS. WEAL THE CAPED MONEY IN 2021 FOR THIS? THIS WAS BEFORE ME. IF YOU DON'T MIND ANSWERING THAT. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY YES AND NO. IT IS COMPLICATED. ' 1, ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR NEW TAM TAMPA UNION BRINGING NORTH TAMPA. 25 IN NORTH TAMPA OPPOSED TO K OPINION BAR RANCH. THE EARLY CONFUSION ON THAT. BUT, YES, THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MONEY FOR THIS WASSAL KAPTSED IN -- >>LUIS VIERA: DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MEANING OF "IS" IS. IN '23, WE TRIED TO USE SOME DOLLARS FOR FIRE STATIONS. 2024 ASIDE WE WILL TO THE PASS ANYTHING IN TERMS OF TAXES. WE DID THE BONDING FOR THIS AND FLEET MAINTENANCE IN '24. >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, I AM TRYING. I THINK THE THING THAT GETS ME. WE COULD HAVE STARTED THIS A LOT SOONER AND IT WAS JUST A CHOICE. I AM STILL GOING TO SETTLE WITH, IT WAS A CHOICE. THE ADMINISTERING'S CHOICE TO NOT FOCUS ON THIS WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING DESIGNED AND BUILT, A PARK, IN THAT TIME. DESIGNED AND BUILT. IT IS ALMOST DONE. AND WHY THE PARK IS A WONDERFUL AMENITY, IT IS NOT ANYWHERE AS IMPORTANT AS PUBLIC SAFETY. >> IF I MAY. LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DATES ON FAIR OAKS. BUT WHEN I STARTED JUNE 12, 2023, IT WAS FINISHING UP DESIGN AT THAT POINT. SO IT HAD ALREADY BEEN IN DESIGN. SEEMS LIKE IT IS GOING FAST NOW LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION FROM GROUNDBREAKING UNTIL NOW. I CAN GET BACK TO EVERYONE AND I WILL E-MAIL YOU THOSE DATES TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE APPLES-TO-APPLES WHAT THOSE DATES WERE. JUNE 2023, THAT WAS FINISHING UP DESIGN. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I THINK THAT IS KIND OF THE. ADMINISTRATION ON PROJECTS THEY WANT TO WORK ON HAVE GOTTEN THAT STUFF STARTED OF TIME. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THEY WILL GET THE PROJECT STARTED AN THEN COME TO US FOR SOME MONEY. THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT. I AM SORRY -- I HAVE NODDING HEADS UP HERE. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE US OTHERWISE. I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT WANT, AND IT IS BEING SHOWN THIS WAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S TAKE FAIR OAKS OUT OF IT AND PUT THE ACTUAL POLICE EVIDENCE SPACE. REMEMBER THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP IN THE NEW BUDGET INSTANCE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN HERE MUDDERBACK. YOU AND ME, AND THAT WAS FIRST PRESENTED BY DEPUTY -- I THINK DEPUTY CATE. SHE WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT. AND THAT WAS MUCH FURTHER ALONG THAN THIS. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I MEAN THAT WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING. >> AND IT HAS BEEN -- I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE TO DO A DESIGN. THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK TO. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU PUT UP THE PAPER WHERE YOU PUT 461 DAYS -- >> WHERE I HAND WROTE IT? >>GWEN HENDERSON: POINTED TO THE 461 DAYS THAT WE AGREED TO APPARENTLY IN AN ORDINANCE. IT WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. >> YES, MA'AM, THE PERIOD OF SERVICE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, RIGHT THERE. THAT S.O.P. STANDARD OPERATING PRACTICE OR PROCEDURE? >>. EVERY ONE OF OUR CONTRACTS OR AGREEMENTS HAVE A PERIOD OF SERVICE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT AMOUNT OF DAYS? >> WE GET THAT -- THE TERM TELLS US HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO TAKE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: AFTER WE PICK THEM. WE PICK THEM FIRST -- >> YES, MA'AM. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT DURING THE PRESENTATIONS FOR THIS, WHEN THE FOUR DIFFERENT FIRMS ALL STOOD IN FRONT OF US ARE, THEY ALL CAME WITH ROUGHLY THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT AND PERIOD OF SERVICE. ALL FOUR. SO NOW -- WHEN I WAS HERE IN FEBRUARY, I THINK I MADE THE MEANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. TAKE YOU GO OF THE FIRST TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT NOW. NOW IT IS GOING TO STARTS MOVING AND THAT IS WHAT A I AM SAYING. EVERY FIRM SAID TAKE THIS LONG AND COST THIS MUCH BASICALLY, RO ROFLY. THAT 461 DAYS NOT A SLOW WALK. COMING FROM A FIRM COMPARING IT TO TWO OR THREE OTHERS THAT THEY DID RECENTLY IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM A WOMAN THAT APPRECIATES PUSH BACK. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING IT IS NOT A SLOW WALK. I AM STARTING TO ACCEPT THAT. BUT WE ARE QUESTIONING YOU AS WE SHOULD. AND APPARENTLY WE AGREED TO 461 DAYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA FIRST. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. MUDDERBACK, I AM NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING FROM YOUR PART OR THE COUNCIL'S PART. YOU MENTIONED IT WAS PRIOR -- WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN A PRIOR STATEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR A FAVOR, IF I MAY. >> YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TALL SAID. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS? >> FEBRUARY 6. FEBRUARY 6 OF THIS YEAR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THE TAPES OF THE CONVERSATION? >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT MAKES SENSE, CHARLIE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT WASN'T BE BUILT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS CLEAR WE ARE DISAPPDISAPPOINTED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME ASK YOU THIS. ANYTHING THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN TO DO EXPEDITE THIS? TO MOVE THE SCHEDULE UP? ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF GOD, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOLLOW THE CONTRACT. >> IF YOU REMEMBER, DURING THAT TIME PRESENTATION, CHIEF TRIPP AND I SAID THINGS WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY TO TRY TO EXPEDITE. INTRODUCED TO KING GUYETTE. THAT IS -- AND THAT WILL HELP. BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER SET OF EYES THAT -- HE IS LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH -- THROUGH THE FIRE STATION'S EYES. NOT LOOKING AT IT THE THROUGH CONTRACT ADMIN. WE ARE BLACK AND WHITE. ENGINEERING. LOOK EXACT LEE WHAT IS IT IN THE CONTRACT. HE IS LOOKING AT OPERATIONALLY WITH CHIEF TRIPP TO SEE HOW -- AND TO HELP HER DURING HER REVIEW PROCESS. SOME THAT IS ALREADY TAKING PLACE. I MEAN, WE HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT. WE CAN TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AND START ALL OVER AGAIN AND WILL NOT SPEED ANYTHING UP. ONLY THING TO MAKE AT THAT FASTER IS TO PAY MORE MONEY. ALWAYS MONEY. SO -- AND I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT YET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUPLE OF THINGS. SITE SELECTION OF IS THIS WAS DONE IN 2021. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT STATION 24, THERE WAS SOME PUSH BACK FROM THE UNION FROM LOCAL 754 ON ITS LOCATION. IT BEING AT WHITE WAY. AND MY MESSAGE TO THEM WAS, I LAUGHED, BECAUSE IT IS ALMOST -- SADLY COMICAL NOW, BUT ON WHITE WAY, CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. I SAID IT WILL TAKE YEARS TO GET PROPERTY. LET'S GET THE DOUBLE. AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE GOT. AGAIN THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION -- THERE WAS NO PROPERTY ACQUISITION, IT IS OURS. SITE SELECTION, THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. I REMEMBER AN ARTICLE IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" OF ADMINISTRATION PREROGATIVES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WITH GOALS AND WHATNOT. ISSUE IS THIS. IF A PROMISE IS MADE ON A FIRE STATION, WE NEED NO MOVE WITH VIGOR IF THERE IS A NEED -- NOBODY BUILDS A FIRE STATION WITHOUT THERE BEING A NEED. A NEED AND CERTAIN STAPLES ARE MADE, WE SHOULD FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT. MY BIG, BIG DISAPPOINTMENT HERE TODAY THIS PENN WANT TO SAY THIS WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AND COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO A NICE MAN WITH A VERY, VERY WONDERFUL HEART AND GOES WITHOUT SAYING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ABOUT IT BEING -- STARTING WHEN I'M HERE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. I FULLY ANTICIPATE THIS WILL UP AND RUNNING LONG AFTER -- NOT LONG, BUT SOMEWHAT AFTER I AM GONE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS THING DONE. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS FOR SUCH A LONG TIME AND I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS. STATION 13, ONE OUT OF 23 STATIONS TOOK OUT ONE OUT YOU HAVE NINE CALLS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE 54th BUSIEST STATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THAT WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN FOR SO LONG. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FINISH THE JOB ON HERE. AND AGAIN MR. MUDDERBACK, I KNOW YOU ARE HERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AND THAT IS NOT EASY ON SUCH AT THAT CAUSTIC ISSUE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM IN DOING THAT, BUT AGAIN, I CANNOT BE DIVORCED FROM THE STATEMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SO MUCH BETTER ON THIS, AS A CITY ON THIS. NOT ON YOU, SIR, WHATSOEVER, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG LINE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MARCH OF 2026. NOW TALKING OF SEPTEMBER AFTER COUNCIL WAS MAKING A VERY BIG PUSH TO GET IT BEFORE THEN. THAT IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE OF THE TOPIC WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR CALM PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR UP THERE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. YOU WILL BE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS. CAN YOU BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING. >>BILL CARLSON: HE TOOK SOME OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY. WE MAY BE TRUST RATED WITH THE ISSUE AND THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT AT LEAST I AM NOT FRUSTRATED WITH YOU. I THINK HE JUST SAID THE SAME THING. I THINK A LOT OF THIS PROCEEDED. YOU ONLY STARTED A YEAR OR TWO AGO AND THIS GOES BACK FIVE OR SIX YEARS. BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. MUDDERBACK AND BRAD, ALSO, FOR BRINGING A NEW LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM TO CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION. WHAT YOU ALL DID IN JUST A FEW MONTHS TO CLEAN UP THINGS AND PUT A NEW PROCESS IN PLACE IS REMARKABLE AND YOU ARE TRYING TO STICK TO IT. ALONG WAY, LET US NO THEY IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO SPEED THINGS UP AND SET IT AS A PRIORITY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE HAVEN'T -- THERE IS NO PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS. NOTHING FOR THIS. THIS A PRESENTATION. AND THEY JUST TOLD US THAT WON'T BE DONE UNTIL THE FALL YOU'VE 26. >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY TO INTERRUPT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE WE ARE LEAVING THIS. PRESENTED A LOT OF INFORMATION BUT NOTHING ACTIONABLE OR FURTHER OWNER THIS. WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE SOMETHING ACTIONABLE. >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SUBJECT THIS. JUNE 26, CHIEF TRIPP WILL COME BACK WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO HAVE SPECIFICALLY ON HERE, CHIEF BENNETT, SPECIFICALLY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO STOP FOR A MOMENT. CHIEF BENNETT HERE BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE. CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING OF THIS ISSUE. >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. I HEARD MY NAME COME OVER. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE FROM WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL NIL IN BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN A LOT ON THIS AND LISTEN TO OTHERS SPEAK. A LOT OF FRUSTRATION THAT YOU WERE WATCHING EXPRESSED BECAUSE SITE SELECTION WAS MADE EARLY ON WITH THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND THE EXPECTATION THAT WOULD BE DONE EARLY NEXT YEAR. AND THE COUNCIL -- COUNCIL WAS TRYING TO PUSH TO FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW WE COULD GET IT DONE EARLIER THAN THAT AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO TOLD SIX MONTHS LATER THAN WE ANTICIPATED. SO THE FRUSTRATION IS, LIKE, WHY IN THE WORLD HAS IT IS TAKEN SO LONG TO GET THIS PROCESS ROLLING. AND HE DID A VERY GOOD JOB PRESENTING THE CONTRACT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN FEBRUARY. BUT IT STILL IS FRUSTRATING, ESPECIALLY WHEN -- SOME OF THE OTHER EXAMPLESES HAVE BEEN USED FOR CITY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN START EITHER BE FINISHED QUICKLY IN THE PROCESS OR BEING FINISHED IN A MATCH SHORTER TIME FRAME. >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE, YEAH, AGAIN. I CAN UNDERSTAND COUNCIL AND EVEN THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THIS, I WAS COMBING THROUGH CONVERSATIONS BACK IN '23 TO KIND OF SEE ABOUT THE SITE SELECTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS CORRECT ABOUT THE UNION HAD A THOUGHT OF A DIFFERENT LOCATION. WE SAW MOMENTUM OF THIS SITE ACCORDING TO CHIEF TRIPP. I REMEMBER CHIEF TRIPP SPECIFICALLY SAYING THAT SHE THOUGHT THAT NORTH TAMPA SPOT WAS A GOOD LOCATION. AND IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD TIME, I REACHED OUT TO USF BECAUSE THEY WERE FLAG STADIUM BECAUSE STILL HAVEN'T LANDED ON THIS SITE TO SEE IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING HOUSE A STATION. AND ALLOW USES TO GO OUT THE FRONT DOOR TO NEW TAMPA AND OUT THE DOOR TO NEW COMPANY. GAVE US A SITE THAT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE IT WAS WAY NORTH ON FLETCHER. THIS SITE CAME UP. A QUICK TURN AROUND. ONE-MONTH E-MAIL QUESTION TO THEM. SO THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE FROM '23 TO THE RFQ POSTING IN MAY OF '24. SO APRIL OF '23 TO MAY OF '24, SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS -- JUST READING FROM THE BULLETS -- THAT THE SLIGHT FEASIBILITY WAS A BIG DEAL WITH ENVIRONMENTAL. AND THEN FROM THERE, THE PROCESS KICKED IN THAT RICHARD TALKS ABOUT. I GET THE OFFICER EXCEPTION OF -- -- THE PERCEPTION AND NO SLOW WALKING. THE MAYOR APPROVED 24 TO BE STAFFED IN SITE 13 ALREADY. SO STATION 24 IS OPERATING OUT OF 13. SO THE GROUND RESOURCE WHICH COST MORE RECURRING THAN IT DOES FOR THE CAPITAL HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FROM MY RECORDS AT LEAST THROUGH 2021. WHICH HELPED CUT -- BECAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING THE WHEELS OFF OF 13 WHEN WE GOT HERE. AND THEN THE MAYOR PUT IN WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND EVEN BEFORE CHIEF TRIPP WHAT WE CALL PEAK UNITS FOR A WHILE TO KNOCK DOWN THE CALLS AND MAKE SURE OUR RESPONSE TIME INCREASED. WHEN 25 CAME ONLINE AND CHIEF TRIPP AND BUDGET AND COUNCIL, OF COURSE, APPROVED ADDITIONAL MEDIC RESOURCES PLUGGED INTO INTO THE STATIONS THAT DIDN'T HAVE. I CAN TELL YOU AND I HAVE MIKE PERRY RIGHT BEHIND ME, THAT THE MOST MONEY PUT INTO ANY DEPARTMENT SO FAR HAS BEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SORE SO /* -- SO RESOURCES HAVE BEEN PUMPED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. RESOURCES, APPARATUS AND ETC. WE WANT THE STATION JUST AS BAD AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE LIKE RICHARD DID, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NO SLOW WALKING. 24 IS IN OPERATION NOW, JUST NOT GEOGRAPHICALLY PERFECT WHEN. WHEN THE STATION OPENS UP, WE WILL GET BETTER DISTRIBUTION AND WHEN CAD COMES ONLINE, ALL WILL CULMINATE TO ONE OF THE BEST FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR -- I WAS GO TO MAKE A MOTION. MAY I. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THOSE WORDS CHIEF AND APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. YOU ARE A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. BUT FOR ME, THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THE FRINFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF OF E BUILDING ITSELF, 24. WHEN WE HEAR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IT WILL BE MARCH OF 2026. NOW BEING TOLD SIX MONTHS LATER ON THAT POSITIONED BUILDING THAT WAS POSITIONED THERE PURSUANT TO THE -- TO THE EXPERTISE OBVIOUSLY OF TFR, THAT AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF SCRUTINY. CONSISTENT WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ON JUNE 26, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY REPORTS BE GIVEN ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH STATION 24 AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO EX-IF HE DIET THIS. AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND THE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT WE WERE ALREADY GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO SEE HOW IT COULD BE MADE QUICKER NOW WE ARE TOLD IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SLOWER. THAT IS THE FRUSTRATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION, BUT HOW IS THAT QUANTITATIVELY DIFFERENT THAN THE ITEM TODAY WE ARE DEALING WITH. THAT IS WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED TODAY. >>LUIS VIERA: THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN THAT IS SUBMITTED THAT DAY CITYWIDE. SAY THAT TO KEEP THAT ON OUR RADAR. TRUST ME. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOST -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASE CLOSE A CONTINUATION OF THIS ITEM. >>LUIS VIERA: IN EFFECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY I. ON JUNE 26, WE HAVE A MOTION TO STAFF TO PROVIDE AN IN PERSON ON THE STATUS OF 246 TO INCLUDE REPORT FROM CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP, AND DIRECTOR MUDDER BACK AND THE PROJECT MANAGER AND FOR UPDATE ON THE GROUNDBREAKING. SO YOU ARE ON IT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MOTION CHEERFULLY WITHDRAWN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THE CLARIFICATION THAT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL WANT MORE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHIEF TRIPP AND MR. MUDDERBACK AND CHIEF BENNETT, FIND A WAY TO SHAVE TIME OFF OF THAT. YOU HEAR THE SENTIMENT.COUNCIL AND PUBLIC, IF YOU CAN SHAVE TIME WILL BE APPRECIATED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU ON JUNE 26. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I REALIZED WE NEVER GAVE CHIEF TRIPP A CHANCE TO SPEAK. IF SHE HAS ANYTHING TO DAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I IMAGINE SHE IS PEDALLING BACKWARDS AS FAST AS SHE CAN TO GET RIGHT OF THIS. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU EVERYONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU CHIEF FOR COMING BACK TO US. VERY GOOD. WE ARE GOING TO -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU TO YOU, GUYS. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE NEED TO MOVE SOME STAFF REPORT RESOLUTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION FROM SOMEONE TO MOVE 46, 56, 66, 67 AND 68. A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. EYES HAVE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 62. MR. PERRY. >>. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL DELAY THIS FOR 8 P.M. THANK YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT BETTER. >> WHATEVER IT TAKES. A FORMER INFANTRYMAN. WHATEVER THE MISSION, WE WILL BE THERE TO DO IT. MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER. BEFORE I BEGIN THIS PRESENTATION ON ITEM 62. AND THEN 63. I HAVE MEMBERS OF THE BOND ISSUING TEAM HERE. MOLLY CLARK AND MAX STANSBURY ARE FROM PUBLIC RESOURCE ADVISORY GROUP. AND THEY SERVE AS THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WHICH REALLY SERVES AS THE QUARTERBACK FOR THE BOND ISSUANCE. THEY COORDINATE ALL ACTIVITIES. PROVIDE ADVICE ON STRUCTURE GOING ENOUGH ANY QUESTIONS. STEVE MILLERS FROM NABORS GIBLIN IS OVER HERE SERVES AS BOND COUNSEL WRITING AND PREPARING ALL THE BOND DOCUMENTS AND RESOLUTIONS TO THAT. MOST MOST IMPORTANTLY, HE MAKES THE IDEA THAT IT IS. MICHAEL BALDWIN FROM JEFFREYS SELECTED AS THE LEAD UNDERWRITER. AND, OF COURSE, THE UNDERWRITERS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MARKET THE BONDS. AND AS YOU SAW WHO ENTERED SHORTLY -- A SHORT TIME AGO SOMETHING JUSTIN VASKE. THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS. TO SET THE TABLE, I WANT TO DISCUSS THE DEBT SERVICE NOR NON-AD VALOREM. I WILL START AT THE END. WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE BONDS IN ITEM NUMBER 63, I DO BELIEVE, THERE IS AN EXHIBIT B IN THE STAFF REPORT. I WANT TO START THERE. CAN HE EVERYBODY SEE THAT. 256, 26 AND 29. WHERE THE GENERAL FUND IS WITH THE DEBT SERVICE. PEAKING AT 20 MILLION IN 2029. BEYOND 2029, STARTING IN 2030, GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE GOES DOWN TO ABOUT $13.4 MILLION. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE BAR CHARTS. IF WE HAVE CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE TO ISSUE NON-AD VALOREM DEBT. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO GO BEYOND THAT AND OUT THROUGH 2051 WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TERMINATING THE SERIES 2021 BONDS AND WHERE CURRENTLY BASED ON THE STRUCTURE, WE WILL PAY OFF THIS BOND ISSUE IN 2051. AND ANY CONVERSATION OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE GOING FURTHER. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE IS IT STATEMENT, A QUESTION. I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. BUT IN THE PAST THE SEVERAL DEBT WAS PRESENTED SEPARATELY AND TOTAL DEBT THAT INCLUDES THE EXTRA $70 MILLION IS $1.26 BILLION. AND TOTAL INVEST EWES OF WAS $850 MILLION. AND ALTHOUGH THE CONSULTANTS MAY SAY WE HAVE DEBT CAPACITY AND KEEP GOING UP. THE QUESTION IS, IF I CAN HAVE FIVE CREDIT CARDS. ISN'T IT ENOUGH TO MAX OUT TWO OF THEM? WHY SHOULD I TAKE OUT THREE MORE. I HAVE CONCERNS AND COST OF INTEREST GOING INTO THE FUTURE AND YOU SAID YESTERDAY, THE COST OF INTEREST IS NOT 100% OF PRINCIPAL NOW BUT 80% WHICH IS A GREAT SAVINGS, BUT STILL AND COST OF INTEREST -- IF YOU SPEND $100 MILLION AND YOU GET $80 IN INTEREST. MONEY THAT WE CAN SPEND ON SOMEBODY ELSE. I HAVE A QUESTION REAL FAST ON PROCEDURE HERE. IS IT POSSIBLE -- THIS -- THIS RESOLUTION OR AT LEAST IN THE DOCUMENT SAYS THAT WE ARE CONFIRMING THE -- THE NEW ITEMS. AND THEN WE ARE PUTTING THEM INTO A POOL WITH THE OLD ITEMS. BUT THEN IT ALSO SAYS THAT WE ARE REAFFIRMING THE OLD ITEMS. I AM OKAY TO VOTING ADDING THE NEW ITEMS TO THE POOL OF THE OLD ITEMS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RECONFIRM THE OLD ITEMS. IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. >> UPON A MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL -- STEVE MILLER -- WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: IF THAT POOL EXISTS ALREADY. I AM HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION. BUT ALSO, CAN I -- CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS REAL FAST OR DO YOU WANT US TO STOP HERE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATION PHYSICIAN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WARS TO MAKE THE MOTION. >> CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE? PRESENTATION ONE. >>BILL CARLSON: APOLOGIES FOR JUMPING AHEAD. >> NO PROBLEMS, SIR. GOT STARTED AND COUNCIL, SEVEN CREDIT RATING AGENCIES UPGRADE SINCE 2019. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. MOODY'S AA 1 THE SECOND HIGHEST AND AAA FROM FITCH AND SNP. DEBT DECISION REPORTS. I WAS TRYING TO ANSWER SOME COMMENTS ON THE MAY 8 EVENING COUNCIL MEETING. YOU CAN SEE THAT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED A FIVE-YEAR CIP IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP WITHIN THE '2025 BUDGET AND YEARS 4-5 IS OUT IN THE FUTURE. DO YOU THAT DURING THE BUDGET ADOPTION. WE BRING YOU FINANCIAL RESOLUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THIS REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO SPEND INTERNAL FUNDS PRIOR TO BORROWING AND WHAT THE ITEM NUMBER 63 IS THE BOND RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING $70 MILLION. BASICALLY ALLOWS THE SIT TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES. CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ALL CONTRACTS, LINE ACQUISITIONS, DESIGN CONTRACTS, CONSTRUCTION COUNTIES, AND EVERY TIME WE BRING AN ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL, WE IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. BENEFITS OF THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PRESERVES OPTIONS FOR THE CITY WITH RESPECT OF HOW CAPITOL PROJECTS. AND APRIL LOW US TO START PROJECTS BEFORE THE MONEY. AND THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVED IN -- COUNCIL APPROVED IN 2022. AND THAT BE WE ARE -- WHAT WE ARE RECOMMEND SOMETHING BRING THE $80 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS INTO THE $50 MILLION PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN 20247. KEEP THEM STAND ALONE IN THAT WE -- WE JUST 'ADOPT IN THE PAST A -- A REIMBURSE. RESOLUTION WITH THE TEN PROJECTS. IS THAT WHAT -- IS THAT WHAT YOUR MOTION OR QUESTION IS? >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID YESTERDAY FOR SIMPLICITY SAKE. ALL GOOD TO HAVE THEM IN ONE BUCKET. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THESE TO THE OTHER LIST? AND RECONFIRM THE OTHER LIST. >> I WILL LET STEVE ANSWER THAT. >> FOR THE RECORD, STEVE MILLER OF NABORS GIBLIN AND NICKERSON. BOND COUNSEL TO THE CITY. ONE BECAUSE ADMINISTRATIVELY OF THE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS. THEY WANTS THEM IN ALL ONE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FOR RE. FOR EASE. THE OTHER REASON, MIKE, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE APPROVED A WHILE AGO IN THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION. COST OF THE PROJECTS HAVE GONE UP. UNDER THE INTEREST HE SHALLRY REGULATORY RULES, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MAXIMUM AMOUNTS FOR THE PROJECTS AND NOT GO ABOVE THOSE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS. WHEN BUDGET WHEN BET AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THE PROJECTS ORIGINAL AND DAY DIXAL $2 30 MILLION THAT WILL SHOULD COVER ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AS A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND WANTED TO KEEP THOSE THERE. IF WE LEAVE THE TWO RESOLUTION ACE LOAN WITH THE 80 AND THE 50, AND IT TURNS OUT AT THE TIME IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE A BOND ISSUANCE OF FOR ANY OF THOSE PRIOR PROJECTS, WILL TAKE US MORE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF BO BONDS. >>BILL CARLSON: SHOW US THE CHART OF THE EXISTS PROJECTS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. CAN YOU SHOW US CHART OF HOW MUCH HAS GONE UP IN PRICE. >> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST INCREASES HAVE BEEN. BUT I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY BUDGETED IN THOSE PRO PROJECTS. >>BILL CARLSON: THE OVERALL BUDGET -- WE SAID SEVERAL TIMES. YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED. FOLKS SAID APPROVE THE CPP. YOU WILL HAVE SEVERAL MORE BITES AT IT. SIX MONTHS LATER RESAID YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT ONCE OR TWICE. AND I AM STARTING TO ASK A LOT MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS STAGE. I DON'T WANT -- FOR EXAMPLE, HE DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING ON HANNAH AVENUE. AND COULD COST INCREASE. $10 -- HOW MUCH? >> IN THE BOND RESOLUTION, ABOUT $8.1 MILLION. >>BILL CARLSON: INCREASE. >> TWO AREAS, $4 MILLION FOR INCREASED COST AND ADDED SOLAR PANELS FOR THAT. THAT WAS COUNCIL -- >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE 121. >> NOT THE SOLAR PANELS, NO, SIR, IT WAS NOT. >>BILL CARLSON: TOTAL IS $129. >> YES, SIR, ABOUT THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HONESTLY THINK THIS WILL BE EASIER IF WE APPROVE THE BOND ISSUANCE FIRST AND THEN GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MOVE INTO IT. BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUFF THAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MOVE INTO FUTURE REIMBURSEMENT, BECAUSE YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STOPPING POINTS, WHERE -- WHERE WE CAN POSTPONE SOME OF THE STUFFER. SO AT THE BOND, THE BOND ISSUANCE IS WHAT THEY REALLY NEED FOR US TO DO TODAY. >> YES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MONEY ALREADY SPENT. THAT TO ME -- I WOULD -- I WOULD PREFER TO APPROVE 63 FIRST. GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. AND THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT 26. AND REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE A ARE. WHAT WE ARE AUTHORIZING BECAUSE THIS IS THIS POINT IN THE LINE IN THE SAND WHERE WE ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THIS FIND OF MONEY ON THESE PROJECTS. >> THAT IS COUNCIL'S WILL, THAT IS FINE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE IN THE ADOPTED CIP. WE ARE NOT BRINGING IN ANY NEW PROJECTS. >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT IS COUNCIL'S DECISION HOW FAR WE ARE WILLING TO GO IN THOSE PLANS. SO JUST BECAUSE IT IS IN THE CIP DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS WHAT IS ALWAYS BROUGHT US TO IS, WELL, ALREADY IN THE CIP. BUT ALREADY SAID WE WOULD DO IT AND IT COMES TO US AND MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE WANT IT TO BE. AND OH, WELL, YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT. GET MORE BITES TO THE APPLE. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE 63 AND THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT -- OR SOME OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WANT TO PUT INTO THIS NEW REIMBURSEMENT BUCKET. BECAUSE I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ALL OF THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION AND CLARIFICATION THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID. $7 MILLION IN ITEM 63. MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SPENT? >> ABOUT 60% TO 70% HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT. THE THING ABOUT THE $70 MILLION, WE ENTERED INTO CONTRACT FOR DESIGN. I HATE TO BRING THIS UP, FIRE STATION 24, $1.8 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN THAT IS PART OF THE BOND ISSUE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EAST TAMPA, $25 MILLION OF THE $38 MILLION. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE US WHOLE. WE ARE NOT BORROWING ANY MONEY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROJECTS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: TO FINISH WHAT I WAS ASKING A FEW MINUTES AGO. MAYBE I MISSED A MEET, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE INCREASE OF $8.715 MILLION ON HANNA AVENUE. WHEN WAS THAT? >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HE DID THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES. >>BILL CARLSON: I REMEMBER GOING TO 121. PART OF THAT -- WHEN DINGFELDER WAS HERE. SOLAR PANELS. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVEN'T PAID FOR THAT. THEY BONDED FOR THE INITIAL 120. THAT WAS AT THE POINT THAT THAT -- THAT THEY -- THAT THE THINGS THAT WE ADDED THEY COULDN'T ADD TO THE BONDS. >> MISS COLINA CAME BACK TWICE. TRUST ME, IT WAS REALLY PAINFUL ON STAFF TO COME BACK TO HANNA AVENUE. WE DO REMEMBER THAT. SHE DEEM BACK TWICE. ONE FOR INFLATIONARY INCREASE. >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID BEFORE I WOULD MOST LIKELY VOTE AGAINST ANY NEW BONDING AND I REALIZE FROM MICHAEL BISHOP WE APPROVED VERSIONS IN THE PAST. BUT ONLY WITHIN THE LAST MONTH THAT I GOT CONFIRMED BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED DIFFERENT BUCKETS THE TOTAL DEBT IS $1.26 BILLION AND THAT CONCERNS ME. WE NEED A LARGER DISCUSSION HOW OUR DAY IS SPENT. I WAS A DAVIS ISLAND MEETING WHERE ABOUT 270 PEOPLE AND STORM WATER DEPARTMENT SAYING THEY CAN'T AFFORD MORE THAN TWO TRUCKS AND THE SPIDER THEY USE TO CLEAN UP THE DITCHES IS BROKEN SOMETIMES AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD ANOTHER ONE AND OVER $8 MILLION ON HANA AND OTHER THINGS. THESE MAY HAVE BEEN APPROVED SOMETIMES WHEN I WAS NOT HERE BUT I DON'T WANT IN ANY WAY APPROVE ANY NEW DEBT IN THIS. IN THE MAYOR'S CAMPAIGN RAISED MONEY TO RUN ADS AGAINST ME THAT I VOTED AGAINST THE TIRE BUDGET BECAUSE SHE REFUSED TO RAISE THE BUDGET FOR ROAD REPAIR AND CLAIMED I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THIS AND THAT -- I DON'T CARE. THOSE ADS DIDN'T WORK. YOU CAN CREATE WHATEVER MAILERS YOU LIKE. BUT I AM NOT VOTING FOR YOUR OVERAGES AND YOUR DEBT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING FURTHER IN YOUR PRESENTATION? >> ITEM NUMBER 26. GIVE THE PRESENTATION OF THE BONDS SO I CAN GO AHEAD AND GO RIGHT INTO THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, WE COULD, BUT 63 HAS TO GET DONE. MONEY WE ALREADY SPENT. REGARDLESS OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO FORTH AND CONQUER. >> PRESENTATION NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ♪ WHEN THE MOON IS IN THE SUMMER SKY ♪ >>LYNN HURTAK: GIANT RED ORBS. DIDN'T A PROJECT MANNER HAVE A SHIRT WITH STAR WARS CHARACTERS ON IT. >> JUST TO REPEAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE ARE HE SHALL EWING THE BONDS FOR IN THE 2025 SERIES. N NONAD VALOREM. REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR MONIES ALREADY EXPENDED. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECTS? >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUICK QUESTION, LOWER SHED PENINSULA PARK THE SAME THING AS THE MacDILL 48. >> I DO BELIEVE SO BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS. >>LYNN HURTAK: STAFF MEMBERS BEHIND ARE YOU SAYING YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SERIES 2025 OF NONAD VALOREM REVENUE BONDS? I SEE CARDINALS -- MIRANDA'S LIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL YOU NEED TO THE PRESENTATION, THAT IS ALL FROM MY PRESENTATION. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WAS SAVING A WHILE AGO IS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU. >> I UNDERSTAND. NOTHING PERSONAL HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE DO THIS IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL DO IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 63, FILE NUMBER F 514 -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE TO DO 656 FIRST? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM 6 AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 62. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE THING I DON'T REMEMBER FROM YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU SHARED YESTERDAY THAT ITEM 62. DO OFF SIMILAR BREAK DOWN JUST LIKE THAT THAT YOU SHARED FOR 63 IN THE BONDING THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US TODAY? ALL I SAW WAS A LIST THE PROJECTS AND NOT THE AMOUNTS. >> S. >> WE CAN PROVIDE THE NEXT TIME WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING A RESOLUTION. PERSONALLY. THIS MAY BE DIFFERENT. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE OF MOVING A RESOLUTION WITHOUT THE EXACT ITEMS AND THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE THAT IS THAT LINE IN THE SAND WHERE WE CAN SAY WHAT WE DO AND DON'T WANT TO FUND GOING FORWARD. >> IF I MAY. I AM SORRY. PUT IT ON THE ELMO. I DID GET THIS BEFORE I LEFT. I APOLOGIZE. WE ARE ADDING ANOTHER $1D 05 MILLION TO THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION. FIRE STATION 6 AND THIS ALLOWS US TO NOW GO INTO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECTS OF COURSE FIRE STATION NUMBER 6 IS THE KEY TO FIRE STATION NUMBER 9 AND 10. AND THEN YOU HAVE FIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ON THE RIGHT SIDE. FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX IS NOT THE KEY TO NINE AND TEN. >> I APOLOGIZE. >> THAT IS NOT ON HERE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE PUTTING IN MONEY TO DO PLANS FOR NATION NINE AND THEN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE LAND POSITIVE YET. THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS ME OF THIS. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE MONEY. A AND LET'S JUST SEE IT HERE. >> YOU WANT TO STRIKE IT? >> I AM JUST SPEAKING IN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF CHEAP TRIP IS AROUND. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, NINE AND TEN CANNOT MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T THINK SHE IS STILL ONLINE. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTAND ING NINE AND TEN CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THEY ARE DONE AND MOVE IN. >> YOU CAN START THE DESIGN. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THE DESIGN IS NOT $19 MILLION OR $21 MILLION. I BELIEVE WE CAN REDUCE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE COST FOR JUST THE DESIGN OF NINE, TEN AND SIX WILL BE, BECAUSE WE CAN NOT START ANY OF THAT UNTIL WE CAN CAN'T UNTIL FLEET AND SUPPLY. TIMELINE. CAN YOU MOVE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE CAN'T SEE IT. THA THANKS. FOR WEST RIVERWALK MONEY, THE UNITE ASHLEY PROJECT. MY -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH UNITE ASHLEY IS -- I KNOW WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH UNITE ASHLEY TO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN CRA FUND ALL OF IT, THE 17 MILLION INSTEAD OF 10. BRIDGE MONEY, $4.9 MILLION AND TAKING THAT AND PAY DOWN THE WEST RIVERWALK THAT WE JUST AGREED TO WHICH, BY THE WAY, I JUST FOUND OUT. WE ARE NOT GETTING PROTECTED BRICKWAYS THE WHOLE WAY. YOU WILL BE ON ROME AVENUE WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION. THAT IS NOT WHERE I WOULD WANT -- I FEEL EVEN MORE VINDICATED I DID NOT SUPPORT THAT PROJECTS, BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC AND I AM REALLY UPSET TO HAVE FOUND THAT OUT EVEN MORE SO. BECAUSE I DECIDED TO TAKE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S APPROACH AND SAY. AND WHAT I LEARNED THIS IS NOT PROTECTED. PEOPLE WILL BE BIKING ON PAINT. AND THAT IS NOT OKAY FOR THE MONEY THAT WE ARE OVERSPENDING ONLY 12 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO FUND. MOVEMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE. AND I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MOVING THIS FIND OF MONEY FOR FORWARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. PERRY, THIS RESOLUTION SOMETHING WE CAN CONTINUE ON CREATE -- >> WE CAN CONTINUE IT SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS. CAN SOMEBODY COME UP WITH A DATE. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT CAN I TALK ABOUT THAT IDEA FIRST. IT IS COMING UP IN THE CRA NEXT WEEK TO TALK OF THE ASHLEY UNITE. AND THEN COME IN FRONT OF US RIGHT AFTER THAT. ASHLEY UNITE COMING UP JUNE 26. I WOULD SAY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS SOME TIME INP JULY. >> IF I MAY, MAKE A DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN AUGUST? >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA. AGAIN, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF WE CAN CONTINUE THIS TO THE SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT THIS UNDER CAPITAL BUDGET DISCU DISCUSSION? >> IT CAN BE MY ONLY REQUEST TO BRING THE LISTED ITEMS THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO COST THE FIRE STATIONS TO BE IT HE SEEN ONLY. AND THEN IF WE WERE TO CHANGE AND MAKING THE CHANGES TO THE ASHLEY UNITE. WHATEVER CHANGES WILL BE MADE. >> HOPEFULLY COUNCIL WOO HAVE TAKEN A MOTION ON THAT ALREADY. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL IN JUNE AND JULY AND JUNE AND JUNE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: DO I HAVE A SECOND? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE ISSUE WITH HER AUGUST 4 DATE IS I DISCOVERED LAST NIGHT WE HAVE A HART BOARD MEETING ON AUGUST 4. I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UNUNDER N NEW. START TIME OF 1 P.M. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO TRAVEL WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S FINE. >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT THAT THEN. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS RELATED TO THIS. COME BACK TO THE VOTE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO IT LINE FOR LINE BECAUSE I AM NOT VOTING FOR THE WEST RIVER WALK PEOPLE WANTED TO CLARIFY THE DITCHES AND OTHER THINGS TO PREVENT FLOODING. ALL IN ONE I HAVE TO VOTE KNOW. NOW CAN WE GUARANTEE. POW CAN WE GUARANTEE THAT THEY CAN'T MOVE THINGS AROUND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. PERRY, ASK YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? >> THE PART OF THE RESOLUTION ON THE BOND RESOLUTION ADDRESSES THE APPENDIX A. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANOTHER RESOLUTION TO MOVE THIS FROM COUNCIL. >>BILL CARLSON: MY LAST QUESTION IS AND MULTIPLE NUMBERS HERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD TOTAL COST. AND THE NEW BOND ISSUANCE IS 70. IS DIFFERENCE. 70 MINUS 66. SOME SLUSH FUN IN WILL ALL YOU HAVE THAT $70 MILLION. >> YOU STRUCTURE THE BOND DEAL. BONDS CAN BE SOLD AT A PREMIUM THAT MEANS UNDER PAR, AT PAR OR AT A DISCOUNT THAT IS ABOVE PAR WHAT DRIVES THAT IS THE STRUCTURE AND MARKETED. TYPICALLY EXTREMELY LUCKY THAT WE SELL OUR BONDS BELOW PAR OR AT PRIEST YUM. SOME ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE TO DISCOUNT THE BOND AND ISSUE THEM BELOW PAR OR ABOVE PAR. YOU ADJUST THE RATE TO GET THE TOTAL INTEREST RATE. THE $70 MILLION ALLOWS FOR IS THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE MARKET DRIVEN. AND WE HAVE TO PAY BOND CLOSING COSTS TO THE UNDERWRITERS AND TV AND MATT. >> ONE LAST QUESTION IF THERE IS A DELTA, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO ALLOCATE IT. >> ABOVE THE $70 MILLION. THAT IS THE MOST WE CAN DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU. TWO QUICK THINGS. I WILL VOTE FOR THIS BUT THIS TERMS ISSUE OF FIRE STATION 9 AND OTHER FIRE STATIONS. I WILL AND OTHER ALSO THINK. WE SHOULD INQUIRE WITH THE TFR AND LOCAL 754 WITH PLANS ON THIS. BECAUSE ALL OF US WANT TO MAKE SURE AS SPORES OF TFR THAT WE DON'T JEOPARDIZE ANY PLANS OR ANYTHING GOD FORBID. SINCE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE FOR THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ON ITS RIVERWALK. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. MAKE A MOTION ON CR A TOOK HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON THAT EITHER WAY, I WILL SUPPORT THEIR. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM EXPECTING IT TO BE PART. THAT IS A MASSIVELY EXPENSIVE PROJECT AND YOU ARE TELLING ME YOU WILL NOT PROTECT PEOPLE ON A BIKE LANE. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SUPPORT WHATEVER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE AT A TIME. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO LET YOU NO THAT HE KELLY WHISPERED IN MY EAR THAT CHIEF TRIPP DOES AGREE GOING LINE BY LINE, LOOKING AT THIS. J JUST. JUST LOOKING AT PUTTING THE MONEY FOR THE DESIGN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE TIME BECAUSE IT WILL MOVE WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL HAVE TIME TO TALK TO ALL THE PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE. I AGREE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT IN THE POSITION BEFORE. AT LEAST IF WE HAVE MONEY FOR DESIGN BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD SIT THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEATEN THIS DEAD HORSE. THIS IS TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 26 TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET DISCUSSION AND MOVE WITH IT. TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 4. TIME TO BE DETERMINED. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. EYES AYES HAVE IT. >> I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE BOND RESOLUTION DID GET PAT PAS >> IS IT DID. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE IF AM CORRECT, 71. ALL ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MORE PLEASANT CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE LOVE THE CONVENTION SPENT I LIKE COMING HERE BECAUSE BEFORE ME IS ALWAYS THIS HOT TOPIC AND I HAVE THAT NICE LITTLE -- GIVE YOU A BREAK IN THE DAY. LET'S HOPE TO. WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE MARKET FEASIBILITY STUDY OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S REQUEST OF FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION OF FINDINGS. TODD WILL GIVE THE OVERVIEW. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHERE IS HE FROM. >> CSL. THE COMPANY THAT WE TIRED DO -- ON MOTION SAYS SPORTS AND LEISURE, THE C WAS MISSING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LIKE A DEPARTMENT AT DILLARD'S. >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, COUNCIL. A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND EXCITING TO TO BE A PART OF THIS. AND WE WILL CALL IT AN EARLY STUDY INTO TAMPA'S CONVENTION INDUSTRY AND WHERE THINGS STAND-TO-TODAY. WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF CONVENTION CENTERS. WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTERS AND CONVENTION DISTRICTS AND WHAT IS THE PERCEPTION OF THE TAMPA MARKET TODAY FROM EVENT PLANNERS AND OTHER END USERS AROUND THE COU COUNTRY. BEEN AROUND A SIX-MONTH EFFORT OF STUDY TASKS LOOKING AT 16 DIFFERENT FACILITIES NATIONALLY, CONVENTION CENTERS AND DISTRICTS. WE LOOK AT THE OPERATION. KERR EVEN THE EVENT MIX AND DID A SURVEY OF 100 EVENT PLANNERS WHAT KIND OF SPACE AND WHAT HOTEL ROOMS. ALL IN AN EFFORT TO DETERMINE, ARE WE CAPTURING THE MARKET THAT WE CAN CAPTURE AND IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW. TAMPA HAS CERTAINLY GROWN OVER THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS AND THE 17th LARGEST METRO AREA AND SEE IN A FEW SLIDES THAT THE CURRENT FACILITIES ARE SOMEWHAT UNDERSIZED .THIS A QUICK LOOK AT A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE EITHER UNDERGOING CURRENT EXPANSIONS OR RECENTLY COMPLETED EXPANSIONS AND ARE PLANNING MAYOR DEVELOPMENTS AND REDEVELOPMENTS OF OUR CONVENTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HIGHLIGHT THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER, FT. LAUDERDALE, RALEIGH. ALL ARE RANGE FROM $400 MILLION PROJECTS FOR EXPANSION IN RALEIGH TO A NEW HOTEL TO AUSTIN IT COMPLETELY REINVENTING THEIR BUILDING AND BUILDING ANS E ENTIRELY NEW CONVENTION CENTER WITH HOTELS FOR APPROXIMATELY OVER $1 BILLION. AND THIS IS THE SPECTRUM OF THE VARIOUS COMMITMENTS THAT COMMUNITIES ARE MAKING AND THIS IS A MOVING PROJECT AND UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS IN THE CONVENTION FOLLOWING THE PANDEMIC NOW THAT ATTENDANCE AND EVENT GROWTH HAS RESUMED AND GONE PAST WHERE IT HAS SINCE 2019. WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF EVENT SPACE, EXHIBIT SPACE, OUR EXHIBIT HALL IN THE SMALLEST IN THE PEER SET. VISIT. WE LOSE SOME VISITORS AROUND THE REGION AND THE COUNTRY. AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONE OF THE SMALLER FACILITIES AND IN NUMBER OF THESE FACILITIES ARE ON THE LIST ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE WHICH ARE PLANNING EXPANSIONS THAT ARE PLANNING RENOVATIONS. ON A BIGGER ISSUE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M STILL LOOKING A IT -- >> THERE WILL BE TIMES FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS OUR BALLROOM SPACE. BALLROOM. THE MULTITURN ROOM IS LESS THAN HALF THE SIZE OF A LOT OF OUR COMPETITORS IN SAN ANTONIO, FT. LAUDERDALE AND SEATTLE. EVENT PLANNERS TODAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE NEEDING MORE AND MORE OF HIGH-FINISHED MULTIPURPOSE SPACE SHOWS THAT ARE HIGH VALUE. HIGH NORTH CAROLINA. DECISION-MAKERS AND SPENDING MONEY ON HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS. THEY ARE LOOKING PARTICULARLY FOR THESE CONVENTION CENTERS THAT HAVE A LARGE BALLROOM. LARGE MULTIPURPOSE HALL THAT CAN SERVE A VARIETY OF NEEDS INDOORS FESTIVALS. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FAIRLY DATED BALLROOM SPACE AT 36,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE LIMITATIONS AS FAR AS SIZE GOES. ON THE OTHER END, WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN EVENT PLANNERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 85% OF SURVEYED EVENT PLANNERS, MOST OF WHOM HAVE NOT BEEN TO TAMPA. 85% SAID THEY ARE INTERESTED IN COMING HERE IN THE FUTURE THIS IS TIED FOR HIGHEST RESPONSE RATE. AND WE HAVE DONE PROJECTS IN TOR TORONTO, SAN ANTONIO, PHOENIX OVER THE SAME TIME AND TAMPA IS TIED WITH DALLAS ON SOME OF OUR SURVEY EFFORTS. A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE GROWTH THAT DOWNTOWN TAMPA HAS UNDERDONE SPARKMAN'S WHARF, RIVERWALK, WATER STREET. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE AS ATTENDEES IN OTHER CONVENTIONS OR VISITED. TAMPA IS ON THEIR RADAR AS A PLACE TO GO TO. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS CAN WE BRING IN THE BUSINESS. WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY TO TAKE ON MORE BUSINESS. THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR OCCUPANCY LEVELS. EXHIBIT HALL AND THE BALLROOM GOING BACK TO 2014. LAST 11 YEARS EXCEEDED 70% OCCUPANCY AND OUR EXHIBIT HALL IS 65%. 70% IS WHERE WE SAY THE MAXIMUM PRACTICAL CAPACITY AND FACTOR IN MAINTENANCE, HOLIDAYS, THE NUMBER OF DAYS YOU NEED BETWEEN EVENTS AND YOU NEED FIVE OR SIX DAYS IN A ROW ON YOUR CALENDAR TO BRING IN A NEW CONVENTION. BY OUR COUNT, ONLY ROOM FOR TWO FULL-SIZED CONVENTIONS WE ARE NOT AT MARKET. WE ARE REVIEWING WHAT WE CAN ON THE CONVENTION SIDE AND WE ARE BUILT UP. WE ASKED EVENT PLANNERS TO TALK OF THEIR EVENT SPACE NEEDS. SAME EVENT PLANNERS INTERESTED IN US. THIS IS THEIR DATA LAID OUT BY 10 PERCENT THEME POINTS WHERE WE HAVE OUR EXHIBIT SPACE. OUR BALLROOM SPACE AND MEETING SPACE AND SHADED IN THE CELLS SHOWING WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE MARKET WE CAN ACCOMMODATE. BALLROOM OF 36,000-SQUARE-FOOT BALLROOM ACCOUNTS FOR HALF OF OUR INTERESTED MARKET. WE OFTENTIMES RECOMMEND TO OUR CLIENTS CREATING A TARGET OF 85 TO 90 BUFFER MARKET CAPTURE. BUT THE BIGGEST PAIN POINT IS HOTEL ROOM INVENTORY AND COMMENDABLE HOTEL ROOM INVENTORY AND BEING A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS. IN TERMS OCCUPANCY. CORPORATE TRANSIENTS GROWING. A LOT OF THE HOTELS LIKE THE JW AND THE MARRIOTT DO THEIR OWN GROUP BUSINESS AND THEIR BUSINESS CONTINUES TO GROW. FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT IS GREAT. BUT THEY CAN'T OFFER LARGE BLOCKS OF ROOM 00, 200 PLUS ROOMS AT A MOMENT NOTICE FOR INCOMING CONVENTIONS .SO DURING OUR PEAK SEASON WHEN AN EVENT COME HERE IN THE EARLY WINTER AND SPRING, YOU CAN ONLY ACCOMMODATE 30% OF THE MARKET. WE CAN WORK AROUND THAT AND VISIT. DOES THAT ALL THE TIME MAKING THINGS WORK WITH A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, 15R PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY BUT NOT AN IDEA PACKAGE FOR THE CONVENTIONS OUT THERE. ALL OF THIS DATA THINKING OF THE POSITIVE RECEPTION FROM THE EVENT PLANNERS AND HOW SHORT WITH EVENT SPACE AND HOTEL ROOMS. REASON TO BELIEVE THAT PRIORITIZE SOMETHING A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR TAMPA WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS INTO AND FACILITIES THAT WE SHOWED ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE. AND IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, WE TALK ABOUT THESE CENTERS REALLY NEED TO PROTECT THE MARKET AND EXPAND TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. IN TAMPA'S CASE, A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW INTO ANOTHER TIER OF BUSINESS AND COMPETE WITH THE LIKES OF NASHVILLE, SAN ANTONIO, OTHER DESTINATIONS THAT HAVE BIGGER BUILDINGS BUT OUR DESTINATION IS JUST AS APPEALING AS THEIRS FOR EVENT PLANNERS.WE ARE TALKING OF POE USUALLY DOUBLING A EXHIBIT HALL. A NEW BALLROOM. HIGH FINISHED MULT HI PURPOSE BALLROOM AT 50,000 TO 60,000 SQUARE FEET AND A NEW HEADQUARTERS HOTEL WITH AT LEAST 800 ROOMS WILL BE IDEA FOR THE HOTEL ROOM BLOCK PROGRAM TO GET 00 400 ROOMS. AND MEET SPACE, ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE IT IS STRICT FURTHER DEVELOPED AGUILAR THE BUILDING GROWS. AND WITH WATER STREET PHASE TWO AND THREE AND OTHER PLANS WITH RIVER WALK. POTENTIAL MARINA IN THE FUTURE THINGS THAT CAN SUPPORT SUCCESSFUL CONVENTION DISTRICT ENVIRONMENT. WITH TAMPA AND WHAT WE HEARD IT FROM PLANNERS, THEY LOVE THE DESTINATION AND LOVE DOWNTOWN AND TAKING THE TROLLEY TO EBAR. WE SAW USING PLACER DATA HALF OF THEM ARE GOING TO YBOR THEY WISH WAS MORE FOR DO AROUND THE BUILDING. A LOT OF THINGS TO BE EXCITED ABOUT. AND IN FUTURE YEARS THINKING OF PLANNING OUT NOT JUST BUILDING EXPANSION BUT A WHOLE PLAN TO COMPETE WITH THE LIKES OF THE SAN ANTONIOS, THE AUSTINS, THE NASHVILLES IN CONTINUING TO INVEST. THIS A DRAFT REPORT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS 90% FINISHED. GOING INTO MORE DETAIL OF POSSIBLE SCENARIOS OF COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. AND WE WANTED TO SHARE THE KEY MARKET FINDINGS AND WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE LOOKING LIKE BASED ON THE DATA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I USE THE RIVER WALK A LOT AND WALKING PAST THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ALWAYS SOMETHING HAPPENING. I GO INTO THE MOTEL TOO AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THE HYATT PLACE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH HAS GREAT BREAKFAST BUFFET. OR I WALK DOWN TO ONE OF THE OTHER HOTELS TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE OR WHATEVER IT IS. THEY ARE ALWAYS FULL. AND IT COULD BE CHRISTMAS MORNING. A REGULAR MONDAY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPACITY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR LARGE VENUE EVENTS OR SMALLER BALL ROOMS. A COMPANY MIGHT HOST SOME RETREAT, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT ALWAYS SOMETHING HAPPENING THERE. STATEMENT, IN COMPASSION TO ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES, WE WANTED TO BE LIKE X CITY. WE CAN DO THAT. AND THE BENEFIT IS WE HAVE A STREETCAR THAT CONNECTS YBOR CITY TO HERE WITHOUT THE EXPANSION. I TO HE AT THATLELY SUPPORT AN EXTENSION GOING NORTH. YOU CAN GO FROM THE HYATT MACE TO THE HILTON. HOP ON THE STREETCAR AND YOU ARE CONNECTED THE WHOLE WAY. MODR TAKE THE RIVER WALKS. I HAVE BEEN TO SEE VENTS FOR -- THE MOOSE LODGE ASSOCIATION. NATIONAL MOOSE OR ELKS OR WHATEVER. IT WAS HUGE GOING DOWN THE RIVERWALK. A FRATERNITY OR A SORORITY. A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE. WE HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE EXPANSION OF CONVENTION CENTER. SHOULD MORE HOTELS COME TO THE AREA? I HOPE THEY WILL. WATER STREET EXPAND AND WHAT NOT. WILL HELP ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO INDUSTRIES IT MAY YOUKILIS FROM THE AIRPORT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET AROUND THE CENTRAL CORE AREA. GRATEFUL TO THOSE BEFORE US THAT SUPPORTED HAVING THE CONVENTION CENTER BELT AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT. BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PRIME POSITION TO FOR WITH OTHER CITIES. AS MORE HAPPENS, THE FURTHER EXPANSION OF WATER STREET IS AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE. WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH. THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. AND ROUTE ONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROUTE ONE, THEY CAN TAKES BUS. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HOPE THAT IS SEEN AS AN ISSUE. SO I JUST -- I APPRECIATE THE SNIPPET THAT WE GOT. WHEN IS THE REPORT, WHEN WILL IT BE DONE? >> WE ARE LOOKING AT. VERY CLOSE. PROBABLY ANOTHER MONTH. >> IF THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO READ IT WHEN IT IS DONE. I THINK ALL YOU HAVE US WOULD. I DEFINITELY WANT A COPY. >> PROMISE TO GIVE YOU SOME COPIES TO STAY AWAKE. A LOT OF NUMBERS. >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THAT TYPE OF STUFF. THAT GIVES THE REAL -- YOU KIND OF GAVE US THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A NUMBERS GEEK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM. SO MUCH WE CAN DO WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER BECAUSE EVERY TIME I GO THERE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT KIND OF CONFERENCE OR EVENT, THERE IS JUST -- HATE TO SAY IT -- BUT A LOT OF OPEN WASTED SPACE THAT IS JUST -- I MEAN, THAT IS CRYING OUT TO BE NOR CONVENTION SPACE. DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THERE BECAUSE SPACE THAT SIMPLY CAN'T BE USED BECAUSE OPEN GATHERING SPACE AN YOU CAN'T EVEN -- I WAS AT A CONVENTION THAT HAD MUSIC IN ONE OF THE LITTLE SPACES, BUT YOU COULDN'T REALLY BE VERY LOUD BECAUSE IT -- IT WAS JUST DEFINITE WAYS TO MAKE THE CONVENTION CENTER BETTER TO MAKE IT EVEN WITH THE FOOTPRINT THAT WE HAVE YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW I FEEL OF THE CUL-DE-SAC IN FRONT OF IT. ANYWAY, I AM EXCITED TO SEE MORE IDEAS AND DIVE INTO THE REPORT OF WHAT WE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY IN PHASES. AS YOU SEE, BUDGET BEING WHAT IT IS. WHAT CAN WE DO PHASED WISE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN. SO I -- BUT I, AGAIN, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS. LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT COMING UP AROUND US. I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO GROW AND -- AND IMPROVE THE CONVENTION CENTER WITH IT. AND I WANT TO APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU FOR DOING THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN WAS -- >> PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE HAVING. WE HAVE THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THOSE TWO REPORTS TOGETHER TO GET A CONSULTANT TO CREATE A MASTER PLAN WHICH CAN POTENTIALLY ALLOW TO YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR A PHASED APPROACH TO IT. SO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THAT AGAIN, YOU MAY SEE A CONSULTANT FOR A MASTER PLAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL READ THIS WITH A LITTLE GRAIN OF SALT, NEXT REPORT AND THEN THE MASTER PLAN. A WONDERFUL THING. AND A GREAT GOING AHEAD BECAUSE I KNOW THE CONVENTION CENTER CAN USE SOME MAYOR, MAJOR RENO. >> NOT DISAGREEING. >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW TO YOU DO THAT WILL BE THE QUESTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS BUILT, BACK IN THE ' 0s, RIGHT? >> HOPED IN 1990. SO CONSTRUCTION IS -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIDN'T HAVE A CONVENTION HOTEL AT ALL. IT WAS NOT EVEN HERE. SO WE WERE LOSING IN IT FOR YEARS. FOUR, FIVE OR SIX YEARS. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL MAYOR GRECO GOT THE MARRIOTT TO COME INTO TOWN NOTHING THERE BUT OLD BUILDINGS THAT HAD TO BE TORN DOWN. TELLING MARRIOTT TEARING DOWN A YEAR AFTER THEY BELT THE HOTEL. PROBLEM IT TOOK TWO YEARS TO KNOCK THE BUILDING DOWN IF I REMEMBER TALKING TO MAYOR GRECO. A BEACON CONVENTION WHICH -- THE SQUARE FOOT, CONVERSATION I HAD 25, 30 YEARS. I AM NOT HERE TO COMPETE WITH CHICAGO, WITH ORLANDO, AND WITH LAS VEGAS. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I CAN'T. IT IS LOGICAL. YES BRING MORE HOTELS. WHAT SIZE TO EXTEND IT TOO AND WHAT IS THE BENEFIT AND RATIO TO THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THE AREA IS CONGESTED ENOUGH FROM THE PAY SHORE AND SWANN. AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE. IN FACT ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS AND VERY SIMPLE UNDER THAT BYPASS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE STREET, TO THE CONVENTION CENTER TO THE PARKING GARAGE ON THE OTHER. LIGHTS AROUND MADE IT LOOK LIKE YOU WERE IN HEAVEN SOMETIMES AND REALLY INEXPENSIVE WHAT YOU ALL DID THERE SOME TIME BACK. AND LOOKS PLEASING TO THE EYE. CONVENTION CENTER WAS EXPANDED TWICE ONE UNDER MAYOR GRECO AND THE OTHER NOT TOO LONG AGO WHEN ADDED WHATEVER IT WAS TO THE WEST SIDE. AND MODIFICATION DID VERY WELL. AND. THIS MY OPINION WHAT VISIT TAMPA BAY. MORE PEOPLE TALK AND MORE PEOPLE WANT TO GO WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE TELL THEN THEY WENT TO. AND THAT IS HUMAN NATURE. YOU TELL ME HOW GREAT IT IS SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE IN THIS COUNCIL AND SOMEBODY LISTENING TO US WILL GO THERE AND SAY, I WONDER IF I GET THE SAME FEELING THEY DID. AND A THING THAT STARTED WITH BARELY NOTHING. AND IT HAS REALLY CRAWLED AND CRAWLED ITS WAY TO BEING ONE OF THE TOP AREAS OF THAT SIZE NARES RESIDUAL COMING IN. BOLLIWOOD COMES IN FROM INDIA TO HAVE A CONVENTION IN INDIA, IT IS LIKE THE AWARDS OF HOLLYWOOD. AND IT MEANS SO MUCH TO THE CITY NATIONWIDE COUNTRY-WIDE WORLD-WIDE WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME IN AN HELPS FACILITY TAIL. WHY TAMPA HAS -- I AM SURE YOU ALL KNOW THIS. LAST TIME I LOOKED, WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE RATED HOTEL OCCUPANCY IN THE COUNTRY. 87.8% I THINK IT WAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE I AM HALF A PERCENT OFF. BUT IT IS RATED IN AM ONE OVER NEW YORK, OVER CHICAGO, PHILADELPHIA, OVER A LOT. SO WHEN YOU ARE RATED IN AM ONE IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TELLS US SOMETHING IS DRIVING THAT. WHAT THAT IS, MAYBE YOU GOOD TO IS CAN TELL US. AND NOT WHAT PEOPLE THINK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS OR QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WHICH. BUT SO -- RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT CONFIGURATION. I FIGURED INTUITIVELY THAT WE ARE PRETTY MUCH SOLD OUT MOST OF TIME FOR THE RESOURCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WITH THE -- WITH PROPOSED OR PERCEIVED ADDITIONS AN ACTUAL FISCAL RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. ARE YOU ABLE TO CHARGE MORE OF A PREMIUM OR BASICALLY JUST GETTING THE SAME CUSTOMERS. PER SQUARE FOOT FOR THE ADDITION. DO YOU GET ADDITIONAL REVENUE. >> TYPICALLY, YEAH. AND I WILL START WITH THIS CENTER. AND IT IS UNIQUE, WHERE IT IS RUNNING OPERATIONALLY. JUST STAND-ALONE OPERATIONS AT A SURPLUS. WOULD BE EXPECTED WITH WITH AN EXPANSION WITH MODERNIZATION AND ADDING MORE POINTS OF REVENUE LIKE OTHER BUILDINGS HAVE THAT REVENUE AND OVERALL SURPLUS WILL IMPROVE. NOT MATERIALLY BUT PROTECT IT AND GROW SLIGHTLY IN TERMS OF REVENUES VERSUS EXPENSES THE INDUSTRY PROFITS WE TALK IN OUR REPORTS WE HAVE NOSE NUMBER IN OUR REPORT AND ESTIMATED. AND TALK TO BEING THE REAL TOWARDS. AND THAT IS THE BIG RETURN. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SIZE INC INCREASE, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY EXPANDING TO GO AFTER THE EVENTS TO HIS POINT TO VEGAS, THEIR GO TO CHICAGO. NOT GOING AFTER BIGGER EVENTS. SOME OF THAT, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT OCCUPANCY AND LOOK WHAT WE HEARD FROM PLANNERS. ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE WORLD TO HOST TWO EVENTS -- CURRENTLY HOST TWO OF THOSE AT THE SAME TIME. CONCURRENT EVENTS. BASICALLY DOUBLING YOUR ABILITY TO BRING IN CONVENTIONS. A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE REPORT ALSO SHOW THIS LARGE BALLROOM THAT WE HAVE. OUTDOOR SPACE. OTHER TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS MORE ABLE TO GO AFTER CORPORATE EVENTS. SALESFORCE, THE MICROSOFT CONVENTIONS. THEY DO GO TO MIAMI BEACH. THEY GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS AROUND FLORIDA. WE GET A LITTLE BIT LESS OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE DATE AND NATURE OF THE BUILDING AND THE SIZE. WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO PULL IN AN EVENT THAT IS GIVING US MORE NET REVENUE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU SEE A SCENARIO WITH THE EXPANSION THAT -- SELF-SUFFICIENCY IS FLUID AND NOT DIRECT REVENUE. THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULDN'T BE BURDENED BECAUSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR BED TAX AND INCOME COMING IN WILL I CAN'T YOU HAVE SET WHATEVER THE EXPENDITURES OF CONVENTION CENTER WOULD BE. >> WE HAVE AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE IN THE REPORT THESE ARE PRETTY AND COSTLY INVESTMENTS FOR SURE IN THE REPORT WE TALK OF A NUMBER OF QUESTION SNARE YOS AND THE RETURN AND THE INDUSTRY PROP. PROFIT. WE TALK OF $14 MILLION A YEAR. AND $3 MILLION TO $4 MILLION FISCAL BENEFITS PER YEAR. NUMBERS YOU PUT ON THE PAPER IDEA OF $200 MILLION TO $300 MILLION INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE AND THINKING OF A RETURN. SO FARCE AS GETTING, YOU RETURN PROFITING AS CITY MAYBE WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE THE LINES CROSS IN THE FUTURE. >> RIGHT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOING ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID. WE LOOK AT THE DATED ASPECTS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND UNDERUTILIZED SPACE HOW IT WAS CONSTRUCTED. ATRIUM SPACE. DRIVEWAY. AND PROBLEMS WITH FRANKLIN WITH STREETS. AS WE LOOK AT THIS AS AN EXPANSION GOING ACROSS, A WAY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THAT PEDESTRIAN PROBLEM WE HAVE BY DECKING IT OVER ACHED NOT HAVE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS FRANKLIN STREET. IF WE HAD A HOTEL ON THE OTHER SIDE. >> FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, YOU ARE THREE STEPS AHEAD OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. >> BUT, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BETTER THAN THREE STEPS BEHIND WHICH I USUALLY LIVE. >> ANY PROGRESS IS GOOD PROGRESS, RIGHT. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YES, WE CAN LOOK HOW IT IS ADDRESSED WHETHER IT IS VERTICAL TRANSPORTATION MAXIMIZING. I ALWAYS SAY MAXIMIZING THE EXISTING PARKING. HOW TO GET THOSE FOLKS FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE CENTER VERTICALLY. YOU CAN DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY NO SECRET IF YOU WANT TO GO VERTICAL ACROSS TO IT AND THE RESPONSIBILITY AS WE GO INTO THAT THIRD STEP DOWN THE ROAD, HAVING THAT STUDY FREE A MASTER PLAN PIECE. NOT FROM A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO REDO WHETHER IT IS FRANKLIN. MAXIMIZING THE DICK GRECO PLAZA AND PUTTING POTENTIALLY A VERTICAL LIFT THERE TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET. PLENTY OF OPTIONS, BUT I AM VERY METHODICAL AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY, HERE IS THE PRETTY PICTURE. HERE IS WHERE I NEED TO GO. THAT IS GREAT, DAVID. DON'T WANT TO GIVE $2 BILLION OFF OF THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T WANT TO NOT SOLVE THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE LIKE HARBOUR ISLAND. I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY. AND IF THAT MEANS DOING KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE BEER CAN BUILDING WITH THE ELEVATED PARK AREA. EGRESS FROM ON SECOND LEVEL ESPECIALLY WITH WATER FRONT. >> THERE ARE OPTIONS. WE HAVE A FIVE-POUND BAG AND TRYING TO PUT TEN POUNDS. AND WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. WE MAY NEVER GET TO THE TWO POUNDS IN THE BAG. WE MAY GET TO FOUR POUNDS IN THE BAG WITH THE EXPANSION. BUT THAT PROGRESS, WE WILL ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN MIND NO MATTER WHAT WE DO OF MINIMIZING THE EXPERIENCE THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS A VEHICULAR EXPERIENCE ON FRANKLIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW YOU WILL HAVE AN AL LIE WITH ME WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. BUT IT HAS GOT -- HAS TO INCORPORATE SOME KIND OF RELIEF FOR -- ESPECIALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT WATER STREET PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY. OTHER AREAS. THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS NOT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND WE HAVE THAT CONFLICT THERE. AGAIN WITH HARBOUR ISLAND HAVING SUCH A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THERE. WHATEVER WE DO, WE HAVE TO BE VERY TUNED IN TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT REALLY BLEND IN WITH THE FUTURE LOOK AT THE REST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. >> I WILL SAY THE ONE COMPONENT IS IF YOU DO PUT A HOTEL THOSE PROPERTIES AND LAST TIME WE WERE HERE R COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON ASKED OF THE EMBASSY HAVING ANOTHER TOWER ON THE BACK SIDE. IF DO YOU TWO HOTELS THERE, THAT AN IMMENSE RECEIVING ON VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOW 800 TO 1,000 ROOMS ALREADY IN THAT LOCATION THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE FACILITY WEATHER -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKES SENSE TO ME. >> PIE IN THE SKY AND VERTICAL AND YOU ARE ON TOP OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. VERTICAL CONNECTIONS VIA BRIDGES. ALL THOSE THINGS THAT CAN BE COORDINATED PROVIDING THE WHO HE IT WILL AND THE CONVENTION CENTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEYOND THE BUSINESS OF CONVENTION CENTER BECAUSE SMACK THERE ON THE RIVERWALK. UP GOT TRANSIENT TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH FROM THE ISLANDS TO DOWNTOWN. NOT JUST YOU GUYS LIVING IN A BUBBLE, JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER BUSINESS. YOU HAVE TO THINK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU ARE LIVING IN. THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. THE EXPANSION AND DOWNTOWN HE ANY, YOU WILL HAVE AN AL LIE WITH ME IF YOU ARE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT IN SPANNED MAKE IT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE ARE AT ITEM 72. THIS WILL BE FUN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE STORMWATER ON DAVIS ISLAND. WING LITTLE BACKGROUND. IN MAY 2021, SENATE BILL WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, SO THIS IS THE STATEWIDE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE AND RESILIENCY. AND ALSO THE FLORIDA -- RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM WAS IN THE SAME YEAR. GOAL IS TO WE WILLY PREPARE COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE TO PREPARE FOR INCREASING FLOOD RISKS, ESPECIALLY DUE TO THE CLIMATE TREND AND SEA LEVEL REESE. OVER PAST FOUR YEARS, THE PROGRAM HAS SUPPORTED THE MORE THAN 300 PLANNING EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. DATA COLLECTION AND ASSESSMENT EFFORT. AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS A PLANNING OF THE PLANNING -- 70ING THE FOUNDATION FOR NEXT STEP, DEVELOPMENT OF THE STRATEGY. WITH THAT I WILL HAND IT OVER. >> THANK YOU. APPLIED SCIENCES. THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO BE HERE TODAY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO SHARE YOU WITH. KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF POINTS. SO WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND. SOME BIG PICTURE ELEMENTS OF WHY WE DID THE STUDY. AND THEN SOME OF THE FINDINGS. AS SHE MENTIONED BACK IN TO BE 2021, ITS STATE OF FLORIDA MADE RERESILIENCE MONEY THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO APPLY AND LOOK AT VULNERABILITIES AND RESILIENCY CHALLENGES FROM SEA LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE IN GENERAL AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS APPLIED TO A NUMBER OF NOSE GRANTS AND SUCCESSFULLY GOT THEM. ONE OF THE ONE APPLIED TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT OUTFALLS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. CITY HAS ABOUT 500 OUTFALLS THROUGH THE CITY AND WE PICKED DAVIS ISLAND AS ONE OF THE AREAS TO ACTUALLY DO THE STUDY. BACK IN 2019, THE CLIMATE SCIENCE ADVISORY PANEL. TAMPA. TAMPA'S CLIMATE SCIENCE ADVISORY PANEL LOOKED AT OR PROJECT IT WOULD BE AT ABOUT ONLY 6 INCHES OF SEA LEVEL RISE BY 2040 AND AVERAGE OF TWO FEET BY 206770-- 2070. AND NOAA UPDATED NUMBERS EVEN HIGHER. THOSE NUMBERS GOT HIGHER A LITTLE BIT AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING CLOSER TO 0.86 CLOSER TO 10 INCHES BY 2040 WHICH IS IN 15 YEARS. IN 2070, OVER 2.62 FEET. OKAY A. THAT A ADDITIVE. WE ARE ADDING THAT TO THE STILL WATER LEVEL. IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF DATA LIKE -- WE ARE LOOKING CLOSER TO 4.62 FEET IN AVD. KEEP THAT NUMBER IN MIND, BECAUSE MOST OF DAVIS ISLAND AND MOST OF THE COASTLINE IN THE CITY IS BELOW THAT ELEVATION. THERE IS ABOUT 500 OUTFOULS THROUGH THE CITY AND DAVIS ISLAND WAS ONE OF THE COASTAL AREAS IDENTIFIED. ALSO IDENTIFIED IN THE COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN. ALSO IDENTIFIED IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THAT -- THAT THE CITY DID. AND ALSO IN THE -- IN THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. SO ON DAVIS ISLAND GIVEN THE CANALS AND COAST LINES, WE HAVE 80 OUTFALLS. SURVEY COMPANY SERVE TECH WAS THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT. THEY WENT OUT AND WENT FROM WATER, FROM LAND, USING ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY HAVE TO IF HE CAN OUT WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AND HOW MANY CREW MEMBERS WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THE SURVEY. THEY WENT OUT AND DID A GREAT JOB AND LOOKED AT LOW LYING AREAS. ABOUT FOUR, FOUR AND A HALF FEEL FETAL DRP /* -- FEET ELEVATION. ADLIA WITH FLOODING ON THE ISLAND DURING THAT EVENT. SOME OF ITEMS THAT WERE LOOKED AT, OR THE TOOLS THAT WERE LOOKED AT TO DEAL WITH THIS IS THE TYPE OF GAUGE OR BLACK FLOW PREVENTERS. THE CITY ALREADY HAS SOME. >> OF THEM IN PLACE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. THIS PICTURE IS FROM THE CITY OF ST. PETE WITH AN APPLICATION IN SHORE ACRES. MOST OF PIPES THAT WERE FOUND IN THE CITY -- I MEAN ON DAVIS ISLAND WERE CLOSER TO 12R-INCH AND 15-INCH AND 18-INCH THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF TO SUCH AN APPLICATION. I MENTIONED THE BACK FLOW PREVENTERS. WE ALSO LOOKED AND WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT THE ELEVATION OF THE ROADWAYS. A LOT OF THE ROADWAYS ARE BELOW THE FOUR FEET THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SOME OF THEM ARE TWO AND A HALF. SOME OF THEM ARE THREE. THE BACK FLOW WILL WORK WELL AGAINST RISING TIDES. AS SEA LEVEL RISES. IT WILL BY HAS IN AND BREAK UP THE PAYMENT AND THE ROADS THEMSELVES NEED TO BE ELEVATED AND SAME THING THAT MIAMI IS DEALING WITH. BROWARD COUNTY. OTHER FACILITIES IN THE CITY ARE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL. ALSO ORDINANCES, RIGHT. WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ARE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH SEAWALLS. IF THE SEAWALL IS AT FOUR FEET IN A CERTAIN SPOT AND DROPSES TO TWO FEET IN ANOTHER ONE, THAT WILL CREATE A VULNERABILITY. AND THAT ELEVATIONS AND LET ALONE HURRICANES AND OTHER MAJOR EVENTS WILL GO THROUGH THIS. SOMETHING WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY CAN LOOK AT. AND, OF COURSE, EDUCATION AND EXTENDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CIP, FLOODING VERSUS TIDAL FLOODING VERSUS HURRICANES. AND CONTINUED H &H MODELING. THAT THE HIGH-LEVEL PRESENTATION HERE. AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW DAVIS ISLAND IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY,S MAN-MADE. IT WAS LITTLE GRASSY KEY AND BIG GRASSY KEY. AND IT WAS MUD DREDGE FROM THE BOTTOM THE TAMPA BAY TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IN THE 1920s WITH THE FLORIDA LAND BOOM. AND A RESORT COMMUNITY WITH RESIDENTIAL AND HOTELS AND WHAT NOT. HAVING SAID ALL THAT, THE ISLAND IS SEPARATED. ISLANDS ARE SEPARATED BY CANALS. AND THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL, BECAUSE OF THE CREATION OF THE AIRPORT AT THE ENDS. I KNOW ONE OF THE CANALS WAS FILLED IN AND CLOSED OFF TO CREATE MORE LAND LAND FOR A RUNWAY, WHICH BRINGS ME TO THIS POINT. DAVIS ISLAND IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA, PERIOD. IF YOU TELL ME GO PICK A HOUSE THERE IS. 100 DIFFERENT HOUSES THAT I LOVE. BUT IT IS ALSO FRUSTRATING BECAUSE OF THE MANMADE DESIGN AND THE UNNATURAL HABITAT. YOU HAVE THE ISSUES WITH FLOODING. BECAUSE AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST HURRICANES WHICH WAS -- IT WAS IT HELENE BEFORE WITH THE STORM SURGE. I MEAN THAT WHOLE ISLAND WAS FLOODED AND UNDER WATER AND I WAS ABLE TO GO CHECK IT OUT I THINK THE NEXT DAY WHEN ROADS WERE OPEN AND FORECAST AND DOCUMENT AND TALK TO PEOPLE. SOMETHING THAT I NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE. NOW WHAT YOU SHOWED ME HERE WITH REGARDS OF HOW THIS PUMP THE BAUER OUT. KEEP IT FLOWING AND WHAT NOT. WE CAN ONLY. TECHNOLOGY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT STORM SURGE, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING TO OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM. IN THE MEAN TIME WHEN IT RAINS, A SUMMER RAIN OR AFTERNOON RAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY YOU ARE SHOWING HERE ALREADY HELP IN KEEPING THE ROADS PASSABLE AND KEEPING THAT WATER OUT. BUT IT IS AN UNIQUE AND TRICKY SITUATION BECAUSE IT -- IT WAS MAN-MADE. YOU KNOW. IN THAT -- YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OF THAT -- TO FIGHT MOTHER NATURE AS WEST BEST THAT YOU CAN. YOUR PRESENTATION SHOWED ME AND GAVE ME A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF TECHNOLOGY USED IN KEEPING THAT -- THAT AREA AS DRY AS POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>SPEAKER: YOU ARE WELCOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY AND SEPTEMBER UP THE GENESIS OF THIS REQUEST. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL RESPONDING SO QUICKLY. GENESIS OF THE REQUEST WAS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WAS AT A MEETING IN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I REMEMBER IT WELL. >>BILL CARLSON: IN HYDE PARK. HE AND CAN I I CAN THE TALK ABOUT IT. A CONSTITUENT ASKED HIM WHAT HE KNEW ABOUT IT. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. NOW WE HAVE THEY. SO AS THINGS OUR DISTRICT. IT WILL BE GREAT IF WE GOT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. THERES A MEETING A THE DAVIS ISLAND'S CIVIC ASSOCIATION A LE OF NIGHTS AGO. SHE WAS THERE AND OTHER CITY STAFF I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF MEETING WITH THE STORMWATER STAFF AND THEY ARE NOT EASY AND PEOPLE ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS. GREAT TO HAVE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO ITS PUBLIC. AND ALSO, DEBBIE ZAMERMAN IS THERE WHO IS HEAD OF THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION. AND I'M SURE SHE WILL BE ASKING YOU ALL SOME QUESTIONS AND MAY ASK YOU GO PRESENT SOME TIME. MY FINAL QUESTION AND THIS CAME FROM THE DISCUSSION THE OTHER NIGHT. BEN INEPT ONCE SAID THAT THE MONEY CAME FROM CLIMATE CHANGE FUNDS. YOU MENTIONED CLIMATE CHANGE A COUPLE OF TIMES IN HERE. WHEN I HEAR "CLIMATE CHANGE" I AM THINKING THERE ARE SOME THINGS HAPPENING NOW, BUT MANY OF THEM ARE HAPPENING IN THE FAR FUTURE. IF YOU WERE DOING A PLAN OR AN ANALYSIS FOR A CURRENT FRESH WATER FLOODING OR FOR SURGE NOW, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT OF THIS ANALYSIS HAD IT BEEN FUNDED TO TRY TO AFFECT THE STORMS NOW. THE OTHER DAY WE HAD -- ONE OF THE TV STATIONS SAID -- COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, THEY FIT THEIR 600-YEAR STORM WITHIN LAST YEAR. SINCE WE ARE GETTING THESE HEAVY STORMS, HOW APPLICABLE IS THIS TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW? >> SO I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF IN MY ANSWER. THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, YES, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE INTO THAT CONSIDERATION TODAY AS WE ARE DOING OUR STUDIES. AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WHEN WE STARTED OUR STUDY IN 2019, THE PROJECTIONS FOR SEA LEVEL RISE WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES WE WERE -- WE HAD TO USE IN 2022. AND THAT IS A MOVING TARGET FOR US, THE WHOLE SEA LEVEL RISE ITEM. WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW IS YOU CIP FLOODING AS YOU ALLUDED TO IN THE BEGINNING IS AFFECT BY HOW HIGH THE WATER IS WHERE WE ARE DISCHARGE TOO. AND THAT IS THE SEA LEVEL RISE ISSUE. SEA LEVEL RISE ISSUE ALSO COMES INTO PLAY WITH THE KING TIDES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING. AND EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON ITS COASTAL COMMUNITY WILL TELL YOU, THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR THE KING TIDES ARE GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER WHERE THE BLACK FLOW PREVENDORS ARE AS A BAND-AID IN DEALING WITH THE FLOODING THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN OUR COASTAL AREAS. THEY ARE NOT THE SOLUTION, BUT JUST A SHORT-TERM BAND AID FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. I HAVE A LITTLE PROTOTYPE HERE WITH ME OF A -- OF A BACK FLOW PREVENTER. EVERY STORMWATER ENGINEER SHOULD CARRY ONE WITH THEM, RIGHT, TO HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS AFTER A WHILE, AS THE SEA LEVEL RISES ARE ARE IT IS GOING TO GO AROUND THESE BACK FLOW, AND SOAK UP THE GROUND AND FORCE US TO RAISE OUR ROADS WHICH IS HAPPENING IN MIAMI BEACH AND MIAMI, BILLIONS ARE BEING SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE, BUMPS AND OTHER ITEMS TO PROTECT THE AREA AND RAISE THIS. AND REASON IS TO DEAL WITH THE -- WITH THE FUTURE, RECEIPT. SO WE WILL WANT TO BUILD THESE STRUCTURES FOR 30 YEARS LIFESPAN. IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THEM FOR THERE ARE LIFESPAN OF 30 YEARS, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY WILL BE SERVICING IN 30 YEARS. HARD TO MAKE THESE PRO JENNINGSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS -- AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. I AM GLAD THIS STUDY WAS DOWN. I REALLY LOVE THE VISH, VISUALS. HAVEN'T KNOWN OF THE BLACK FLOW. >> PREINVENTORS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS FASCINATING. IDEA -- I GUESS YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. WE ARE NOT HAVING TO DIG UP. PUT DOWN. IN TERMS -- SOIB QUESTION THE QUESTION FOR ME IS WHAT IS THE COST OF PUTTING ONE OF THOSE IN. LIKE THE AVERAGE COST. WHAT WOULD A TIMELINE LIKE -- DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE TO DO THIS WORK? OR SISTER HAD JUST A STUDY IN FROM THEM. DO THE CITY NEED TO PLAN THAT. FIRST ONE ABOUT AVERAGE FOR A PIPE THAT ALREADY EXISTS. EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, NORMAL, WHAT WOULD IT COST TO PUT ONE OF THOSE IN. >> THE CITY ALREADY HAS TEN OF THEM IN PLACE. >>LYNN HURTAK: OH. >> THEY COST ON AVERAGE BETWEEN -- ABOUT $50,000 TO ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE. >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, WOW. ALL THINGS BEING SAID, THAT IS PRETTY CHEAP. SO THAT IS INTERESTING. OBVIOUSLY THE MUCH BIGGER EXPENSE IS THE ROAD. AND WHAT CONCERNS ME OF THE ROAD AND THIS IS WHAT I NEVER UNDERSTOOD ABOUT MIAMI BEACH IS YOU ARE ELEVATING THE ROAD AND DOESN'T HELP THE LAND AND THE PEOPLE'S HOMES THAT ARE BELOW THAT ELEVATION. SO AS THE WATER COMES UP, THAT WILL MESS WITH NOT ONLY OUR ROADS BUT DOES THAT IMPACT THE FOUNDATION OF HOMES? >> SORT OF, BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST THE ROADS, BUT THE ACT SENSE FROM MIAMI BEACH HAS A LOT OF BUSINESSES ON THE ROAD AND SUMP PUMP THE WATER AND HAVE IT ACTIVATED FOR EVERY SINGLE RAIN EVENT. IT IS EXPENSIVE. PRETTY EXPENSIVE. THEY ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS. INTERESTING PART ABOUT THIS IS, AS THAT PROJECT EVOLVED, DESIGN TEAM AND THE CITY AND EVERYBODY LEARNED OF BETTER WAYS TO DO THIS. STILL EVOLVING. THERE IS MORE -- ACTUALLY A NEW LANGUAGE THAT CAME OUT. WE ARE TALKING OF HARMONIZING WITH THE BUSINESSES. HARMONIZING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING FITS TOGETHER. SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT US IN GENERAL AS MUSEUMS WE HAVEN'T FACE IT BEFORE AND WE ARE FACING IT NOW AND TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT THE BEST WE CAN. ONE OTHER.WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THE BACK FLOW PREVENTS, THEY ARE PREVENTING THE TIDE FROM COMING BACK, BUT THEY ARE MAKING THE FLOOD FROM STORMWATER A LITTLE BIT WORSE TO GET OUT BECAUSE THEY NEED TO HAVE A HEAD TO ACTUALLY DRIVE IT OUT. AND MOST PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THAT IN THE PROCESS. SO WE NEED TO ALSO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE ARE LOOKING AT PLACES THAT DON'T USUALLY FLOOD FROM STORMWATER -- A EVERYDAY STORM AND PUT THESE FLOOD BLACK FLOW PREVENTERS AND AGGRAVATING STORMWATER WHILE STORM SURGE CONDITION. >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUESTION AND AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND SAYING MIAMI AND MIAMI BEACH SPECIFICALLY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TRULY ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS AGAIN WE ARE THAT THE THAT FAR AWAY. A POSSIBILITY OF EITHER HAVING SOMEONE OPINION FROM THEIR STORMWATER TEAM COME AND TALK TO US? OR DO THEY ALREADY HAVE VIDEOS OUT? I AM SURE YOU KNOW THEM. AT THIS POINT IT IS A SMALL GROUP. AND IN THIS STATEMENTS THATCH IS TOO DEALING WITH IT. I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING FOR US AND THE PUBLIC TO SORT OF LEARN WHAT MIAMI BEACH HAS DONE SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER NOT TO BE THE FIRST. WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO DO THIS BUT WE ARE THERE AND LEARNING FROM THEM. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE BRINGING THIS INFORMATION THERE HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING OF HARMONIZATION. HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING IT. IF YOU KNOW OF ANY YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT YOU CAN POINT US TOO TO ARE IF THEY HAVE STUFF ON THEIR WEB SITE AND GET THEM TO COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I, WHILE I HEAR YOU, I SIMPLY CANNOT PICTURE IT. HE WANT TO BE UNDERSTAND IT MORE PAZ WE DIVE INTO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO NEXT. SO THANK YOU. >> SO APPLIED SCIENCE WAS FORTUNATE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE MIAMI BEACH PROJECT. WE DID A LOT OF THE H&H MODELING WITH THE PROJECT AND WE CAN SHARE CAN STAFF AND THEY CAN SHARE WITH COUNCIL SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE GATHERED FROM THAT PROJECT. AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PAIN QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE ON IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYTHING YOU HAVE WILL ALLOW ME TO VISUALIZE IT WOULD BE AWESOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE BEEN TALKING OF PARISHWATER FLOODING THE LAST MONTH SINCE THE STORMS. WE HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT STORM SURGE. AT SOME POINT ESPECIALLY WITH DAVIS ISLAND WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE WATER HITS. WHAT ARE SOLUTIONS TO PREEVENTUAL THE WATER FROM HITTING -- PREVENT THE WATER FROM HITTING. HAWAII AND JAPAN THAT ARE PRONE TO TSUNAMI. THEY PUT CONCRETE BARRIERS IN THE WATER. THIS IS A DIFFERENT PHENOMENON. I DON'T WANT TO GET TO OTHER PROPOSALS. OTHER PARTS OF WORLD HAVE DEALT WITH THIS. I KNOW IT IS EXPENSIVE. BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. WHOEVER ENDS UP HEADING THE DEPARTMENT. >> NETHERLANDS ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF THAT GIVEN THEIR TOPO TOPOGRAPHY. AND THEY HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE AND TESTED. LESSONS LEARNED. WHAT WORKS FOR THEM AND DIDN'T WORK AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU BROUGHT FORTH THE ISSUE OF THE BLACK FLOW PREVENTERS THAT IT IS A DOUBLE-EDGED STORM. SOLVE ONE PROBLEM BUT MAY CREATE ANOTHER PROFSH. I LIVE SO CLOSE BUT TO FAR FROM DAVIS ISLAND. DO WE HAVE FRESH WATER FLOOD CAN ISSUE WHERE YOU IT IS GOING INTO HOMES LIKE WE DO IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND OTHER PLACES. DAVIS ISLAND HAVE A FRESH WATER PROBLEM? >> THEY OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF FLOODING FROM HELENE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STORM SURGE. >> SOME FROM MILTON THEY DID. COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, I DON'T THINK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE CANALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AS LONG AS THE STORMWATER -- SEAWATER DOESN'T COME OUT. PLENTY OF ACCESS FOR THE WATER TO FLOW OUT THROUGH INSTEAD OF OTHER AREAS LIKE FOREST MILLS BOWLS WHERE IS FRESH WATER GETS TRAPPED. DAVIS ISLAND IS MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE OF THE SALT WATER ISSUE WITH THE KING TIDES. I LIVE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE PLACES IN TAMPA BECAUSE SOMEBODY SNEEZES IN BATHEP. I AM THE LOW POINT OF BAYSHORE. SO I GET IT. I WATCH IS IT EVERY TIME AND HOLD MY BREATH. VERY GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE ARE DOWN TO ONE MORE. ITEM 74. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I M MAY. CAN I MAKE A -- CAN I MAKE A QUICK -- VERY, VERY QUICK MOTION WOULD THAT BE OKAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY TO OBJECTION? COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: IT WASD -- I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY REQUEST -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON TONIGHT. >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN'T SAME UP HERE, TRUST ME. I WANT TO SUGGEST FOR JUNE 26, THAT THE PROJECT MANAGER BE REQUESTED TO BE HERE WITH CHIEF TRIPP TO ADDITIONALLY TALK ABOUT FIRE STATION 24. I WATCHED SOME OF THE FEBRUARY 6, TWHIEF TWRIEF DSH 2025 MEETING. WE BEGINS 111:30. I WOULD WATCH IT. IT WAS INDICATED THAT THE GROUNDBREAKING WOULD BE AROUND MARCH OF 2026. AND THEN STEMS WERE TAKEN AND STEMS WERE HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHTED THAT WOULD EXPEDITE THAT INCLUDING THE HIRING OF THE PROJECT MANAGER TO HELP EXPEDITE THE PROCESS. AND -- AND IN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GUILT THROUGH THERE. NOT TO TAKE PEOPLE'S TIMES. AGAIN THINGS WERE HIGHLIGHTED TO EX-PETITION DIET -- EXPEDITE IT. NOW WE ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SAY THE DATE AND TIME. >>LUIS VIERA: FEBRUARY 62025 WAS ITS HEARING. AND AROUND 11:30 AROUND 11:40 WHEN FOLKS WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. 11:40 OR SORE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO ADD A REQUEST TO THE FIRE STATION 24 PROJECT WILL MANAGER TO HE A TENDS. IS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THERE. >>LUIS VIERA: I GUESS I WANTED TO MAKE MY FINDING -- DISREGARD. >>LYNN HURTAK: LITERALLY SAYS FIRE CHIEF, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMIN AND THE PROJECT MANAGER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. >>LUIS VIERA: OBJECTION GRANTED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU YOU ARE EXCUSED. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 74. >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD EVENING, DENNIS FERNANDEZ. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PRESERVATION MANAGER. I PROVIDED ALONG WITH COULDN'T COULD THE AND A MEMO SUMMARIZING ACTIVITIES RELATING TO THE PARKING LOTS COMPLIANCE IN YBOR CITY. I WANTED TO COME BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME ACTIVITY EVEN SINCE I SUBMITTED THE MEMO. THERE WAS A CODE HEARING YESTERDAY AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS SUBMITTED ON MAY 23. JUST REAL BRIEFLY TO REMIND YOU OF THE MOTION WE ARE HERE TO DEAL WITH. I DID SPEAK WITH KEITH O'CONNOR WHO WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY. IN SUMMARIZING HIS ACTIVITIES WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. HE DID CONFIRM THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS STILL CONDUCTING REOCCURRING INSPECTIONS OF PAID PARKING HOSPITAL EVERY TWO WEEK. THEY HAVE NOT OBSERVED OR H ANY REPORTS ANY OF THE LOTS BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE SECURITY ENVIRONMENTS OF THE CODE. SO WHEN THEY ARE ON SITE, THEY ARE INSPECTORS ARE ON-SITE. 27-178 ARE BEING MEANT. WITH RELATION TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS WITH DISCUSSION AND OUTREACH PRIOR TO THE CODE BEING ADOPTEDED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. -- ADOPTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO SUMMER OF 2023. ENGAGED PARKING LOT OWNERS AT THAT TIME. WE WENT TO THE ENFORCEMENT TO GAIN COMPLIANCE. 24 CASES BACK IN APRIL OF 24. THOSE VARIOUS CASES WERE HEARD IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER OF 2024. THERE WAS 20 CASE AS THE THAT TIME. THREE WERE DISMISSED OR COMPLIED. ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT OPERATORS CEASED OPERATION OF THOSE AS PAID PARKING LOTS. THAT WAS FOR VARIOUS REASONS EITHER THEY DID NOT WANT WANT TO BRING ITS LOTS IN COMPLIANCE OR THERE WAS ACTUALLY NEW CONSTRUCTIONU CONSTRUCTION PLANNED FOR ITS LOTS THAT WOULD NEGATE THAT USE. 17 OF THOSE LOTS WERE FOUND IN VIOLATION OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFICATIONS, I DID MENTIONS, BUFFERS AND WHAT NOT. AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE STARTED IN FEBRUARY 2025. MOST OF THOSE LOTS RECEIVED A $100-A-DAY FINE. OF THOSE 17 LOTS IN VIOLATION AT AT THIS TIME, EIGHT HOSPITALS HAVE SUB SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN ISSUED CERTIFICATES APPROPRIATENESS. ISSUED IS NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE TERM. SOME HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED CERTIFICATE OF THE ATROP YANTNESS AND DEVIATED WHAT IS THE CONFIGURATION ON THOSE. AND ENFORCE TO GET THEM BACK TO THE PARAMETERS. SEVEN ESSENTIALLY RETURNED AFFIDAVITS NOT USING THE LOTS FOR PARKING ANYMORE AZIZ JUST MENTIONED. TWO HOSPITALS REMAIN NONCO NONCOMPLIANT. ONE SOMEBODY ENGAGED IN A PROCESS SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION IN JULY. IN ADDITION UNDER THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND WENT BE INTO EFFECT IN OCTOBER, EACH YEAR ON JANUARY 1, THE OPERATORS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT PAN ANNUAL OPERATION AND SECURITY PLAN A NEW CAVEAT TO THE CODE THAT THE LOTS MEET THE DIMENSIONAL SPECIFICATIONS WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND HAVE THE THE SECURITY PROGRAM IN PLEAS SINCE THAT ORIGINAL NEGOTIATE I HAVE IT THIS PAST JANUARY, 1 REPORTS RECEIVED BY OUR DIVISION. 18 DETERMINED TO BE COMPLAINT. TWO DETERMINED INCOMPLAINT ONE WAS WITHDRAWN. MAINLY THAT OCCURS THROUGH THE AFFIDAVIT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS DETERMINE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO UTILIZE THAT FOR PRINCIPAL PARKING ANY LONGER. IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS 13 CITATIONS ISSUED FOR THOSE THAT HAD STILL NOT FILED APPEAR REPORT OR WERE ENGAGED IN A PROCESS. IN MARCH, THERE WAS A PREHEARING INSPECTION AT WHICH TIME 11 OF THOSE 13 FAILED. TWO ADDITIONAL FILED AFFIDAVITS FOR NONUSE OF PAID PARKING. WE HAD APPROXIMATELY EIGHT OPERATORS FILE THOSE AFFIDAVITS. JUST TO CLARIFY, A LOT CAN BE MORE THAN ONE PARCEL. SO YOU MAY HAVE ONE LOT -- ONE OPERATOR OPERATING TWO OR THREE PARCEL FOR PARKING. ON MAY 26, THERE WAS A FINAL PREHEARING INSPECTION WHICH OUR INSPECTOR GOES OUT AND ESSENTIALLY INSPECTS THE PROPERTIES AND SEE IF THEY HAVE GAINED COMPLIANCE. IN THIS CASE FOR THE REPORT, IT IS MORE OF US ALSO ENGAGING WITH ITS -- WITH THE PARKING LOT OPERATORS TO SEE IF THEY ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT THE REPORT. AT THAT TIME, WE DID HAVE ONE THAT SUBMITTED ANOTHER AFFIDAVIT THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO OPERATE PAID PARKING. OF TWO REMAINED IN VIOLATION. THAT WAS YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY AT THE CODE HEARING, THE MAGISTRATE FOUND THE TWO OPERATORS AND PROPERTY OWNERS VIOLATION CODE SECTION AND BEING FINED $100 A DAY. AS YOU SEE THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUSTAINED PROCESS. APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF MY STAFF, PARTICULARLY HEATHER BONDS WHO IS HERE WITH ME, WHO HAS BEEN SORT OF THE POINT PERSON IN DEALING WITH A LOT OF THESE COMPLIANCE ISSUES IT IS VERY CHALLENGING AND TIME CONSUMING. AND IT IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING EFFORT BECAUSE THIS REPORT IS DUE EVERY YEAR. AN EDUCATION PROCESS WITH PARKING LOT OPERATORS. AND PROCESS PARAMETERS THAT ARE BEING SUSTAINED EVER ESTABLISHED TO FACILITATE HOPEFUL LEAVE EASIER SUB MINTAL, EVALUATIONS AND DETERMINATIONS FOR COMPLIANCE IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS THAT WE ARE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. THAT INCLUDES MY SUMMARY AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOUR STAFF HAS GONE INTO DOING THIS. I KNOW IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THINGS STARTED. BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUITE FRANKLY WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH YBOR, I AM NOT SEEING IMPROVED LOOKING PARKING LOTS. THEY MAY BE COMPLYING WITH THE SECURITY, BUT NEIGHBORHOODS -- I AM HEARING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE ONLY COMPLYING WITH SECURITY WHEN THEY KNOW THEY ARE COMING OUT AND INSPECTING. AND FOR THE OTHER NIGHTS, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THEM. NOW WHETHER OR NOT -- AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT I AM HEARING. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT FOR MYSELF, BUT I HAVE SEEN THAT PARKING LOTS STILL DON'T HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO FOR THE SITE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE. I AM WONDER AGENT WHAT POINT WHEN WE GO TONIGHT FINES, AT WHAT WON'T BECAUSE $100 A DAY IS WHAT, $3,000 A MONTH? THAT IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS MAKING A TON OF MONEY OFF OF PARKING. SO I AM CURIOUS AT WHAT POINT DO WE RACKING UP THESE FINES. YOU CAN'T RACK UP FINES ANY MORE. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS. DOES GET THOUGH THAT POINT BUT LEAPT RACK UP $100 A DAY. >> AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE FINE PROCESS FOR I GUESS GOING ON EIGHT MONTHS NOW. THAT IN RELATIVE TERMS OF BEING FINED IS NOW A LONG TIME. WE HAVE PROPERTIES THEIR GET FINE LONG THAN THAT. HAVEN'T BEEN A DISCUSSION OF TRYING TO ESCALATE IT BEYOND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE. BUT I THINK AS WE -- AS WE ARE SEEING FROM THE NONCONFORMS, WE ARE GAINING COMPLIANCE THROUGH THAT PROCESS. NOW IT IS NOT OUR GOAL TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS CEASE OPERATING THEIR BUSINESS. WE WANT THEM TO GAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE AND WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES. I AM NOT SURE OF THE THE SPESPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOBODY HAS CALLED KNEE TO SAY THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE SURE -- WE HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT THAT TAMPA CONNECTED IS DOWN. >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT. I WILL BLOCK THAT FIRST THING TOMORROW. >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ALSO -- DRIVING AROUND YBOR, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF PARKING LOTS WHOSE FENCES ARE DILAPIDATED. PER NOT -- THEY JUST -- I MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE STOPS LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO IN -- FOR PARKING SPACES. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE IT PAVED BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DELINEATED PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK. SOME AT WHAT POINT. OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS JUST WOULDN'T ACCEPT THAT? I THOUGHT THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IMPROVE THE LOOK OF THEM. ALSO YOU CAN PASS PARKING LOTS THAT -- I HAVE SEEN THAT HAVE WAY MORE SIGNS THAN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE. SO I DON'T REAL LEGAL KNOW HOW THESE ARE CONSIDERED CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS WHEN THE STOPS AREN'T THERE. THERE ARE TOO MANY SIGNS. HOW -- HOW CAN THEY BE N COMPLIANCE IF THEY STILL HAVE ALL THE STUFF? >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I WOULD NEED TOE REALLY EVALUE I WANT WHAT YOU ARE OBSERVING WITH SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. MY -- MY INSPECTOR IS GOING OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE STOPS, IF THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS. THE SIGN SAGE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGING AREA BECAUSE THEY ARE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME TYPES OF SIGNSES. AND WE ARE STILL KIND OF COMING TO DETERMINES WITH HOW WE CAN BALANCE THAT. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SORT OF HAVING PAN INITIATIVE ON SIGNAGE BECAUSE ITS OWN SPECIFIC ISSUE WITH PARKING LO ITS .IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OUT -- YEAH, IMPLEMENTING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE THAT HE ARE IN PLACE. IF SOMEONE HAD AN EXISTING CA. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MAKE SOME OF THAT ENHANCEMENTS THAT A NEW LOT WILL HAVE TO MAKE WITH THE INCREASED BUFFERING BUFFERING AND INCREASED LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE INTRODUCED UNDER THE CODE. >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: PICKET FENCES AND CAR ALSO INTERACT AND FENCE WILL LOSE. WE WILL KEEP GOING OUT AND ENFORCE THAT CONSTANTLY AS A STANDARD. >>LYNN HURTAK: I REACHED OUT OUT TO DO A TOUR WITH ONE SPECIFIC PARK LOG TO THE SPEAK OF THESE ISSUE. AGAIN, THANK YOU AS WE KEEP THE ATTENTION ON THIS AND AS WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR HELP WITH IT. AND LOOK FORWARD TO COMING AND DOING EVEN MORE. >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. FERNANDEZ. THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS. DID WE DO A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE STAFF REPORTS? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE DID OR NOT. WE DID? OKAY. SO WE HAVE CONCLUDED BUSINESS -- NEW BUSINESS FOR THE DAY. SO LET'S SEE. MR. CARLSON, ANY BUSINESS YOU WOULD LIKE -- >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A FEW COMMENTS. NUMBER ONE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS TALKING ABOUT UNPROTECTED BIKE LANES. I THINK WE OUGHT -- THIS IS NOT FOR ME TO DO. YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SET SOME KIND OF CRITERIA INSTEAD OF PAINTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF LANES. WE SHOULD PROTECT -- SPEND THE MONEY AND PROTECT LANES. BECAUSE THE CYCLISTS I KNOW DON'T WANT TO RIDE ON THE PAINTED ONES. ALL THIS IS DOING IS ADDING TO SOMEONE'S CHECKLIST. I WILL SECOND IT IF YOU INTERESTED. ALSO, I SHOWED THIS CHART EARLIER OF THE FBI CRIME STATISTICS. I WANT TO PASS IT AROUND AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE MACHINE? >>BILL CARLSON: IRDID THAT EARLIER. ANYBODY CAN GO TO THE FBI WEB SITE AND LOOK AT THE CRIME STATS. THERE WAS A SPIKE FROM 2018 AND 2021. THE GOOD NEWS IS THE MAYOR AND TEAM BROUGHT THAT DOWN. THAT IS A SUCCESS OF THE ADMINISTRATION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRATULATIONS. APPEAR COMPLIMENT FROM BILL CARLSON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 5:30 P.M. >>GWEN HENDERSON: MAYOR, IF YOU WERE LISTENING. >>BILL CARLSON: COMMENTS ON STORMWATER. I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. BUT COMMENTS BECAUSE I CAN'T TALK TO YOU ALL OUTSIDE. MENTIONED SURGE JUST NOW. A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO FRESH WATER FLOOD BUG WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SURGE PROBLEM SOMEHOW. AND YOU KNOW WE ARE GETTING A NEW HEAD OF STORMWATER. AT SOME POINT THEY WILL ACCEPT RATE STORMWATER FROM MOBILITY BECAUSE A FULL-TIME JOB WITH STORMWATER. WHEN THE FULL-TIME PERMANENT PERSON IS PICKED, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT. VIK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO NOT HAVING A BUSINESS PLAN OR NOT HAVING A PLAN. WHAT I REALIZED IN THE DAVIS ISLAND MEETING IN LISTENING TO FOLKS. SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS CALLED A PLAN IS A LIST OF PROJECTS. AND -- AND A LIST OF PROJECTS PAZ WE KNOW IS NOT A PLAN. AND SO IT IS UP TO US TO TRY TO WORK WITH STAFF PROBABLY OFFLINE TO TRY TO RISE UP TO THE VISION OF CREATING THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BIG PUBLIC HEARING ON THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT TONIGHT WHICH I THINK IS A WASTE OF MONEY AND SHOULDN'T GO FORWARD. THERE IS ALSO -- IN THIS THERE IS TALK OF CLIMATE CHANGE VERSUS WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY AND SOME OF THIS IS TIED TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO WATCH THE DIFFERENCES THERE IS. IF WE GET A GRANT TO STUDY CLIMATE CHANGE, THAT'S GREAT. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW AND TIE INTO MAINTENANCE IN THE DAVIS ISLAND MEETING. PEOPLE WERE THERE TALKING ABOUT NO MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND STAFF TALKED ABOUT HOW NO MONEY TO BUY MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT. LAST MONTH, DRUMBEAT OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY IN STORMWATER BUT CITIZENS HAVE GONE BOTH OF BUDGETS UNDER FOUND WHAT THEY THINK IS WASTE. WHAT I EXPECT WILL HAPPEN BUDGET TIME, ADMINISTRATION WILL ASK US FOR AN INCREASE IN THE STORMWATER TAX. I CAN STILL TELL YOU THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT IN FAVOR OF TAX INCREASES RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIND EFFICIENCIES. WE HAVE 65 OR 85 OR WHATEVER MILLION PLUS INTEREST THAT WILL BE PUNT POT -- PUT POTENTIALLY THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT. TO PROTECT THOUSANDS OF HOUSES NOW INSTEAD HE HELPING 11 HOUSES TO NOT GET FLOODED. LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. A LADY SENT US AN E-MAIL A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND DEALING WELL A CONSTITUENT -- WE PASSED THE INCREASE IN THE -- IN THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU OF FEE. AND FOLKS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO WHERE HE BUILD THEIR HOMES FROM THE HURRICANES, SOME OF THEM WERE DELAYED BY CONTRACTORS. SOME OF THEM DELAYED BY PER MINT. THEY HAVE GONE BACK AND TO GET THEIR PERMIT THEY ARE GO THEY GET $23,000 FEES BECAUSE WE INCREASED THIS REAL. I THINK WE NEED TO PASS SOME KIND OF EXCEPTION OR AT LEAST CLARIFY THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF GRANDFATHERING IN -- NATIONAL STARTED BEFORE WE MADE THAT -- FROM PROJECTS THAT STARTED BEFORE THAT DECISION. AND I THINK STAFF IS LOOKING AT THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO GRAND FATHER'S DAYER IN ANY -- ANY PROJECT THAT IS RESULT OF LAST YEAR'S HURR HURRICANE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE WE VOTE WE SHOULD RUN THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ONLY MY SUGGESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM WITH YOU, BUT TO CLEAR IT UP, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE TOO. CRA NEXT WEEK AND THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE IS THE 24th. AND PEOPLE RECENT NOW TRYING TO REBUILD AND GETTING HELD UP AND BREAKING THEIR BUDGET. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR ONE WEEK AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. ONE WEEK I DON'T THINK WILL HURT ANYTHING. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD RECOMMEND TALKING TO THEM AND SEEING, LIKE. WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND THEN ASK THEM WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. IF THE SOLUTION IS BRINGING AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE IS THAT, THEN BRINGING THAT BACK. BUT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY GOODBYE TO THEM FIRST AND SEE IF THERE ARE SMALL ONE-OFF WAYS TO FIX IT. >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF HAS BEEN MAKING EXCEPTIONS, BUT I THINK -- I WILL TALK TO THEM AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW WICK DO ANYTHING QUICKLY, BUT HOPEFULLY -- I JUST WANTED TO LEAPT YOU KNOW THAT I AM WORK ON THAT TOO BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE BEING HIT BY THE SAME THING. >>LYNN HURTAK: I GENERALLY FIND OUT STAFF WRITES A MOTION. THEY WRITE THE WRITE MOTION. >>BILL CARLSON: THAT THEY PASS THEIR OWN ADMINISTER THINK OF POLICY. >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE THEY WILL COME BACK AND BLESS THE ADMINISTRATION. >>BILL CARLSON: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. I SAID SECOND AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS. ONE PARTICULAR CASE. A COUPLE -- THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REBUILD SINCE THE HURRICANE. THIS MEEIGHT BE THE SAME THING. I DON'T KNOW. MORE THAN ONE PERSON. HINT WITH ADDITIONAL $20,000 SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE. AND THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO REBUILD THEIR HOUSE. THEY HAD MAJOR DESTRUCTION. ANDD I MEAN, THEY ARE PATIENT. THEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS SINCE OCTOBER, YOU KNOW. AND I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. IT IS FAIR TO THEM IT SHOULD IT BE GRANDFATHEREDED A WHAT NOT. >>BILL CARLSON: READ STORY, MICHELLE ANDD YOU HEARD HER SON IS -- HER SON IS DISABLED AND LOST THE USE OF HER HOUSE. COUPLE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTARILY EACH TWO YEARS GAVE THEIR KIDNEY TO STRANGERS AND THEY ARE KIDNEY DONORS THEY CAN'T GET FEMA TO HELP THEM. KATHY CASTOR'S OFFICE HAS HEMMED. THEY CAN'T GET FEMA TO HELP AND WORK THROUGH OTHER CHANNELS. AND THE NEW POLL SEAL IN PLACE IS AT THE BREAKING POINT. I AM HOPING WE CAN HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HEND HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. BUDGET MEETING WE HAVE ON AUGUST 4, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE START THAT SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP AT 1 P.M. DUE TO THE HART BOARD MEETING FOR COUNCILMAN IF VIERA AND MYSELF. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OTHER IS, I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS. I MO OF TO CORRECT THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 BY REPLACING THE WORD "MINISTRIES" WITH THE WORD "KIDS" TO CONFIRM THE $5,000 FUNDING FOR CORNERSTONE KIDS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. KIND OF A SCRIVENER'S MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT SUBSTANTIVE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY WON'T FUND IT WITHOUT THE PROPER WORDING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU HIT ME IN PUBLIC. HAVE YOU HEARD THE VIOLATION? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE HITS ME ALL THE TIME. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DARLENE AND I HOSTED THE HBCU SENDOFF PARTY FOR KIDS GRADUATING AND HEADED TO 24 DIFFERENT HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES .A LEGACY PROJECT OF MINE, BEING THERE ARE TWO WOMEN WHO WORK IN DISTRICT 5 WHO DAMAGE WAITED FROM HBCUs AND THE COMMUNITY SHOWED SO MUCH LOVE IN FUNDING THIS MAJOR EVENT. AND I AM JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL IT ALL OF. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT SUPPORTED IT. INCLUDING THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE, THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE SHERIFFS, BLACK COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMITTEE. JUST REALLY IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH HBCUs AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES. IF YOU WERE READING THE PAPER TODAY WHAT HAPPENED WITH UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IS UNDER ATTACK. AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT KIDS MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING THE PLACE WHERE IS THELY TO MATRICULATE FOR COLLEGE. I WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ATTENDING. I HAD A PLUMBING ISSUE AND A MY BEDROOM AND CLOSET FLOODED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ASKED YOU MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO, DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO EVERYTHING. AND YOU HAVE SAID NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANTED TO BE THERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S OKAY. I AM VERY PROUD OF IT AND IT WAS ACTUAL LEGAL -- IT WAS A PARTY, SORE NO DIGNITARIES RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS, YOU KNOW. KIDS WERE DANCING AND ENJOYING THEMSELVES AND EATING AND TAKING PICTURERS AND INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS SAYING CONGRATULATIONS ON ENGAGING WITH THEM. OTHER THING EVIDENT ABOUT THE PARTY THAT I WILL SAY IS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS LIKE JUDGE LITTLE AND PEOPLE WHO GRADUATED FROM HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES WORE COLLEGE T-SHIRTS THAT SAID PAR IF A NAIL-- PARAPHERNALIA A WERE NOT INVITED. ONE WOMAN CAME ONLY BECAUSE SHE WENT TO TENNESSEE STATEMENT UNIVERSITY. AND THAT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL WITH THEM ENGAGING WITH ADULTS WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM HBCUs TO SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE. SO ANYWAY, THE PICTURE ARE LENA. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I AM JUST SO HONORED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT REAL LEGAL IS A CONTINUATION OF MY ROLE AS AN EDUCATOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. IT IS OKAY WE ALL DO OUR THINGS. Y'ALL DON'T COME BIKING WITH ME. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS JEALOUS THAT YOU INVITED EVERYBODY ON A SUNDAY. I DON'T HAVE A BIKE, BUT I WILL DO IT ONE DAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS SUNDAY. THIS SUNDAY WE ARE GOING DOWN MORGAN STREET. WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DOUBLE BIKE LANE THAT WILL BE PROTECTED BY CON KREECHT AND RIDE A LITTLE BIT THE UISHSELMON GREENWAY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY HARD TO BIKE. AND I DO APPRECIATE PEOPLE'S FOCUS ON BIKE LANES. THAT IS VERY NICE. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, BECAUSE IT IS A PERSONAL PROJECT. I THINK THAT IS GREAT. EACH OF US HASst HAVE AN AREA WE CAN REALLY WORK ON. AND WONDERFUL HOWL WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER FOR THAT. IT IS REALLY NICE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PASSION PROJECTS. >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYWAY, THIS COUNCIL DOES -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: IER NOT THAT BAD HURTAK HOME RUN WE GET ALONG VERY WELL WELL THIS STUFF. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. ACTUALLY I HAVE A MOTION I WOULD LIKE HAVE MISS COPESKY IN. WHEN WE WERE TALKING OF THE FINANCIALS FOR THE RESOLUTION. HIGH MOTION -- AND I AM -- MISS COPESKY MAY NEED TO HELP ME WITH THIS. I MOTION TO MAKE -- TO ASK MISSION COPESKY TO WORK WITH THE FINANCIAL STAFF TO ITEMIZE REIMBURSEMENT OF THE CERTAIN COSTS RELATED TO THE ACQUISITION, OF VARIOUS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. SOME WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS THAT LIST THAT MR. PERRY TALKED, TALKED ABOUT, BUT OTHER THINGS. WHAT ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ENCUMBERED THAT AREN'T ON THAT LIST YET. WE REALLY NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, I CAN TALK TO BUT IT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO GET THAT INFORMATION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF MISS COPESKY THOSE THINGS. GO TO HER AND SHE CAN CIRCUMSTANCE LATE THAT BEFORE US. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AND NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. I HAVE A MOTION. SO AT THE MAY 22 WORKSHOP, I TALKED ABOUT THE -- ASKING THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION TO REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROMPT THAT IS -- THAT IS ADJACENT TOP WOODLAWN CEMETERY ON BOULEVARD WHICH HAS COME UP IN THE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A REPORTER IN THE ROOM AND I WASN'T ABLE TO RESPOND TO COMMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION PMG TO SO CLARIFY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO WOODLAWN CEMETERY ON N. BOULEVARD THAT HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS LATELY TO START A DIALOGUE OF HOW ITS CAN BE ALLOW TOPPED UTILIZE GROUND PENETRATION RADAR TO VERIFY THE COST AND PARTNER WITH THE OWNER TO PUT TO REPS ANY CONCERNS REGARDING GRAVES. I WOULD LIKE A WRITTEN REPORT JUNE 22 -- JUNE 26th. I ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE REAL ESTATE FOLKS. I DON'T NEED AN IN-PERSON. JUST FOR INFORMATION. KNOW THE MEDIA HAS ASKED, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. AT LEAST GET THE CONVERSATION GOING WHAT THE SITUATION IS. AND SHOULD THERE BE GRAVES THERE, INDIVIDUALS THERE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT STEMS FORWARD. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST -- SECOND, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE MOTION. WHAT IT IS -- WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. FOR ONE. TESTIMONY. NUMBER TWO, I THINK THE BURDEN COMES ON WHOEVER OWNS PROPERTY TO GET THE CITY OUT OF TAKING A DIALOGUE. THEY THE SELLER AND THE BUYER. WE ARE THE ONES OVERLOOKINGD LIKE A CROW OVERLOOKING SAYING WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT WILL CLEAR UP, IF POSSIBLE -- IF HE SAYS NO OR IS HE SAYS NO. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWN IT IS LIKE YOU DO. AND IF THEY SAY NO, THEN RIGHT THERE, THERE IS A QUESTION IN MY MIND ABOUT GUILT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A WRITTEN REPORT JUNE 26. AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: MIRANDA SECONDED IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. THIS IS PROOF -- I KNOW THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT, RIGHT. ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO TRY TO ADDRESS. OUR PLATES ARE FULL. PEOPLE DON'T REALLY REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES. SO I AM THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD. BECAUSE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD. I RESPONDED TO ONE OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT IT AND SHARED IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND WE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, YOU KNOW. WHAT IS POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT ABOUT TAKING A LEAD, BUT A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH ALL OF US. LIKE I SAID A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE WANT THIS COUNCIL TO SUCK SEEPED. WE GET BOMBARDED BY A LOT OF REQUESTS AND ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND ABOUT US AS COLLECTIVE BODY DOING THE RIGHT THING. . >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE REALLY. THREE OF US ARE DISTRICT-SPECIFIC. BUT YOULE Y'ALL GET TO WORK TOO. THAT IS FAIR, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING. IT IS FAIR. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THINGS PUBLICLY -- I MEAN WE CANIN PRIE ABOUT THINGS FOR IT TO BE PRESENTED -- WE CAN'T TELL YOUR OFFICE WHAT TO DO. THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. I DON'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE TWO MOTIONS. ONE I WOULD LIKE THE CLERK TO REVIEW THE WHOLE MEETING TODAY SO WE CAN HEAR IT BEFORE WE LEAVE. [LAUGHTER] >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEED A TRANSCRIPT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A FOR STAFF TO COME BACK ON JULY 17 FOR THE ANNUAL STREET NAMING FOR JAMES LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM. AND PREFERABLY I WOULD THINK -- THINKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THAT THE CORNER OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD HEADED WEST TO DALE MABRY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOM McEWEN BOULEVARD. >>LYNN HURTAK: UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE SPACE THAT DAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE FIRST DAY WE HAVE SPACE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST? >>CLERK: AUGUST 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AUGUST 7. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AUGUST 7 IS FINE WITH ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA FOR AUGUST 7. A SECOND? >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? IT PASSES. YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO WELL. BECAUSE YOU HAD A MEMO YOU SENT TO US FOR A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP FOR SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. DID YOU FLESH THAT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSALS? >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DID THAT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, WE DID THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT THAT WAS NEW BUSINESS. >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SOMETIMES WHEN THEY DO THESE HONORABLE NAMING THINGS, IT IS NOT PERMANENT. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT IS FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS OR SOMETHING. MAKE SURE THAT ONE IS PERMANENT. THEY DID SO MUCH FOR -- FOR TAMPA THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL DO IT IT /* IT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST HAVE AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM. NEXT MEETING OF CRA. AFTER THAT MEET ZELG A PHOTOGRAPHER HERE TO TAKE THE COUNCIL PICTURE WITH THE NEW SEATING AN ALL. DRESS PRETTY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU ASK ITS CHAIR OF CRA IF THAT IS OKAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TIM DID. HE ASKED YOUR OFFICE. TAKING COUNCIL PICTURE. IF YOU WANT AN INDIVIDUAL PICTURE, COULD YOU GET ONE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I -- THIS MORNING -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY WERE GOING TO COME TODAY. YOU WANT TO DRESS THE WAY YOU WANT TO DRESS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL PUT MY HAIR ON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST THIS PICTURE UP HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE FROM A YEAR AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO POPPED UP IN MY TIMELINE. IT IS SITTING THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT, YOU CAN GET A PORTRAIT. I THINK THAT IS IT. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL RESENDS MY MOTION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNOW I LIKE DOING THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SECOND IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION, OPPOSED. AYE' HAVE IT. OH, MY LORD. THIS IS EXHAUSTING. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU WANTED IT. LET ME CUT OFF MICROPHONE. WE WORK 24/7 DURING BUSINESS HOURS, 8 A.M. TO