CITY OF TAMPA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE RULES FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD MORNING. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THESE ARE THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE CONDUCT OF TODAY'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM. A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK AT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH BEGINS AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS THIS MORNING ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS. ONE CARD PER SPEAKER. CARDS WILL BE EXPECTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. EACH PERSON WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK. NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED. PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY. NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THOSE ARE MARKED ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH, PUBLIC HEARING. YOU DON'T USE THE SPEAKER CARD. YOU USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET BY THE PODIUM OUTSIDE INSTEAD. IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE CITY STAFF. SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS. THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM. NOW, PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S MEETING. NOW, PLEASE KNOW THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT IS LISTED AS A CONSENT ITEM OR FOR STAFF REPORTS, THE TIME TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS IS GOING TO BE AT THE START OF THE MEETING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION. THANK YOU. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIR, IN THE WHITE AND BLACK T-SHIRT AGAINST THE WALL, I RULE THAT YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND REVERSE YOUR T-SHIRT AND THEN YOU CAN REENTER THE CHAMBER. IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, I'LL RULE YOUR BEHAVIOR OUT OF ORDER AND ASK TO YOU LEAVE THE CHAMBERS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. HAVE YOU DONE ROLL CALL? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. THANK YOU. SIR, I'M SORRY, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS, REVERSE YOUR SHIRT AND THEN COME BACK IN. IF NOT, I'LL RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. PLEASE LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SIR, MAY I DIRECT THE OFFICER TO REMOVE THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS? THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A TEN-MINUTE RECESS. I ASK CITY STAFF, CLERK, ATTORNEY, CITY COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS FOR TEN MINUTES, AND WE WILL RETURN AND RESUME OPERATIONS. I'M SORRY FOR THE FOLKS HERE WAITING FOR THIS. WE WILL SEE YOU ALL IN TEN MINUTES. THANK YOU. [RECESS] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. I WOULD LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA -- >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE GENTLEMAN DOING THE INVOCATION. LIEUTENANT COLONEL WILL ATKINS. RETIRED AIR FORCE LIEUTENANT COLONEL WHO SERVED 22 YEARS AS C 130 NAVIGATOR AND POLITICAL MILITARY ADVISOR, SIX DEPLOYMENTS TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. TEACHING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND NATIONAL SECURITY AT THE U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY, COLONEL ATKINS NOW LIVES IN NEW TAMPA WITH HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER AND REMAINS COMMITTED TO PUBLIC SERVICE. SERVES ON BOARDS OF YMCA. CURRENTLY IN TRAINING TO SERVE AS A MENTOR FOR VETERANS TREATMENT COURT HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SUPPORTING FELLOW VETERANS AND THEIR PATH TO HEALING. HE WILL DO THE PLEDGE. REMAIN STANDING. >> LET US BOW OUR HEADS. GOD, WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA. A CITY RICH IN CULTURE, FULL OF PROMISE AND DRIVEN BY THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY. GRANT THIS COUNCIL WISDOM IN ITS DELIBERATIONS, COMPASSION IN ITS DECISIONS AND THE COURAGE TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND PURPOSE. MAY EACH CHOICE MADE HERE SERVE THE GREATER GOOD OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY VOICE, AND EVERY FAMILY. LORD, SINCE WE KNOW THAT ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH YOU, PERHAPS YOU COULD SEND A LITTLE LOVE TO THE TAMPA BAY RAYS. BLESS THIS CITY, OUR LEADERS, AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME. AMEN. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT A LITTLE LOVE FOR THE BUCCANEERS. THEIR FIRST PRESEASON GAME THIS SATURDAY NIGHT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT CUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH. MY BONES AREN'T UP FOR THAT THESE DAYS. ARE WE ONLINE? WE'RE NOT SEEING IT ON THE MONITORS. THE OVERHEAD DISPLAYS, CAN YOU ALL -- CCTV, THE OVERHEAD DISPLAYS IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF YOU COULD GET THE LIVE STREAM UP THERE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SESSION HELD JULY 31st 2025. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. AGENDA REVIEW, PLEASE. WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS. >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T SEND A MEMO ON THIS. I HAVE AN EVENT IN PLANT CITY FOR AN ORGANIZATION. I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD OVER 15 YEARS. I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO LEAVE AROUND 11:25. JUST FYI. THERE MAY BE ITEMS. I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL BE GONE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY? >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I'LL BE BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE ITEM, CHIEF BENNETT WOULD LIKE TO DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE COMMENDATIONS TO ATU. UNANIMOUS CONSENT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 15. THERE WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR. MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALREADY SENT A MEMO TO PULL ITEM 20. I WANT THAT HEARD FIRST ON STAFF REPORTS. I DO WANT STAFF. FIRE AND PREFERABLY CHIEF OF STAFF. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM HURTAK, SECOND FROM VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. I THINK THAT IS -- CAN WE CONTINUE AN ITEM THAT WAS IN PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME? >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC HEARING, NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DIDN'T THINK SO. MAKING SURE. STAFF REPORTS. ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES ON 52. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 52, YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF ON 52? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. 53. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR YES. I WOULD REQUEST OBVIOUSLY THAT I BE HERE FOR THIS ONE ON RETURNING CITIZENS AND THE OFFICE OF AND OBVIOUSLY AN IN-PERSON REPORT, IF I MAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VIERA NEEDS TO BE THERE. OKAY. 54. >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 55? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 25, 2025. >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME JUST SPEAK QUICKLY ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS MY MOTION. THE REASON WE'RE CONTINUING IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH SB 180. WE'RE KIND OF TIEING IT INTO THE WORKSHOP WE ALREADY AGREED TO DO ON SB 180. THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 56, COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE THAT IN PERSON. I SPOKE TO MS. McKENZIE ON IT YESTERDAY. I WOULD REQUEST TO BE HERE FOR THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 57. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. AND GOES WITH 58. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 58 IS A YES AS WELL. >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM 59 TO BE CONTINUED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO DO 58 BEFORE 57, FYI. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 59 TO SEPTEMBER 4th. THERE IS NO UPDATE BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF WRITING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. 60, MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 23. MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 61 THROUGH 65. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS 61 THROUGH 65. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THAT I BELIEVE IS FINISHED ON THE AGENDA REVIEW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN. WE'RE HERE FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH. I WILL LET CHIEF BERCAW TALK ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER HE OR SHE MAY BE. IT IS A UNIQUE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. WE ALWAYS DO THIS TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE THAT ALWAYS SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS AND COPS. CHIEF. >>CHIEF BERCAW: CHIEF BERCAW. HONOR TO BE HERE TO PRESENT OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH. TODAY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING OFFICER CURTIS AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025. SINCE HE IS STILL IN HIS UNDERCOVER ROLE AND OPERATIONS ARE STILL ONGOING, HERE TO ACCEPT ON HIS BEHALF IS SERGEANT MATT ZELANSKY. EARLIER THIS YEAR AS PART OF EFFORTS TO ADDRESS DRUG ACTIVITY IN KEY AREAS OF THE CITY, OFFICER BRILES VOLUNTEERED FOR ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ROLES IN THE OPERATION BY CONDUCTING UNDERCOVER NARCOTIC BUYS. THIS HIGH-RISK ASSIGNMENT REQUIRED EXCEPTIONAL COURAGE, VIGILANCE AND QUICK JUDGMENT. FROM FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL OF THIS YEAR, OFFICER BRILES SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED MORE THAN 45 NARCOTIC PURCHASES FROM 29 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. THESE EFFORTS RESULTED IN WARRANTS AND ARRESTS FOR EACH OF THEM. MANY OF THESE OFFENSES OCCURRED NEAR SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND OTHER PROTECTED LOCATIONS. THE INDIVIDUALS HE TARGETED WERE NOT MINOR OFFENDERS. 19 OF THEM HAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED TIME IN THE FLORIDA STATE PRISON TOTALING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF INCARCERATION FOR SERIOUS CRIMES, INCLUDING DRUG TRAFFICKING, ARMED ROBBERY, FIREARM VIOLATIONS AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. SEVERAL WERE ALSO SERVING ACTIVE PROBATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL AT OUR TIME. OFFICER BRILES WORK -- HIS EFFORTS CONTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY AND REMOVING DANGEROUS REPEAT OFFENDERS FROM OUR STREETS. HIS ACTIONS REFLECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. FOR SOMEBODY TO DO THIS, PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY SAFER AND TAKE DANGEROUS FELONS OFF THE STREET, WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER CURTIS BRILES AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025. [ APPLAUSE ] >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, STARTING WITH THE PBA, TO HONOR THIS OFFICER WHO IS HERE IN SPIRIT. >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA. WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO THE OFFICER FOR A JOB WELL DONE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> [INAUDIBLE] HE'S MAKING US SAFER. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE MICROPHONE IS INSIDE THE PODIUM. IF YOU CAN FACE THE PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I'M GRACE GONZALEZ. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS. PLEASE THANK YOUR TEAM. THANK OFFICER BRILES FOR US. THIS IS A GIFT CARD FOR HIM TO ENJOY A NIGHT WITH HIS FAMILY, FLAMENCO SHOW, ULELE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND HIS COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE. I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA. ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH YOU AND OFFICER BRILES FOR HIS HEROISM AND KEEPING OUR CITY SAFER. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HE AND HIS FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE FOR THE ORCHESTRA DURING OUR SEASON. PLEASE GIVE THAT TO HIM AND THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU AGAIN, MA'AM. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING. MARY DILLON FROM STRAZ CENTER. THANK YOU FOR NOMINATING THE OFFICER ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER, TICKETS TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONVEY OUR CONGRATULATIONS. >> I WILL. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> HI. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ZOO TODAY. I'M NOT NEW ON THE BOARD. AND THIS IS FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. THIS IS A YEAR MEMBERSHIP FOR THE OFFICER AND OFFICER'S FAMILY. AND THE ANIMAL IS THE FLORIDA PANTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE STEALTHY. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. LEE O'GARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD. CURTIS CONGRATULATIONS. JUST LET HIM KNOW WE SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM BILL CURRIE FORD. I'VE MET HIM MULTIPLE TIMES, SO I KNOW WHO HE IS. THIS IS A HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY HERSELF WITH A GIFT CARD. FULL FREE MAINTENANCE ON HIS PERSONAL VEHICLE CERTIFICATE. OTHER GOODIES. LIKE I SAY EVERY TIME I'M UP HERE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> WE RESPECT AND APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT PUTS ON THE UNIFORM EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S TRULY AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO DO THIS. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW IT'S AWKWARD TO FACE FORWARD WHEN ADDRESSING PEOPLE IN THE BACK, BUT THEY CAN HEAR WHEN IT IS BOOMING OUT IF YOU FACE FORWARD. MR. FORD. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I LEFTING IS UP THERE. THANK YOU. IT IS OUR 50th SEASON. GOOD MORNING, CHIEF. ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, YOU KNOW THE TRADITION WE HAVE. YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THAT. ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL. YOUR PARTNER, HEARING HIS STORY AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO EACH AND EVERY DAY TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, THE SACRIFICE THAT YOUR FAMILY UNPARALLELED. IF ANYBODY DESERVES A GAME BALL, IT IS YOU AND YOUR PARTNER. PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG. ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. APPRECIATE IT. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MIKE McCAR THUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OFFICER BRILES WITH A GIFT CARD AND HAVE DINNER OUT OUT ON STEPP'S TOWING. LET HIM KNOW WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE DOES FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. CITY STAFF. MARYBETH WILLIAMS. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK. WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO OFFICER BRILES AND PRESENT HIM WITH A PERSONALIZED GRANITE PAVER ALONG THE TAMPA RIVERWALK. SHOULD BE READY 30, 60 DAYS. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT IS READY. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS FROM SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS. GIFT CERTIFICATE TO FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING. GIFT CERTIFICATE TO AN ADULT PARTY AT SPLITSVILLE, TWO DINNER FOR TWO YACHT STAR SHIP. PIRATE WATER TAXI TWO ALL DAY PASSES. LOST PEARL, TWO COMPLIMENTARY ENTRANCES. AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE OFFICER. I CAN TELL YOU THESE ARE NO NONSENSE FOLKS. I'VE SEEN THEM IN ACTION. I GREATLY APPRECIATE AND SURE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT THEY DO TO KEEP US SAFE. BEHALF OF THE BUSINESSES, MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK, PROVIDING A GIFT CERTIFICATE. JACKSON BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND. CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP UP AND DOWN HOWARD, TAKE YOUR PICK. YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT'S BEING DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. GET THE BAD BOYS OFF THE STREET. THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD TO SEE YOU, STEVE MICHELINI. GLAD YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, WE ALWAYS END WITH THE RED TIE. HONOR YOUR COLLEAGUE WHO YOU ARE HERE FOR FOR ALL OF HIS HARD WORK, DETERMINATION AND COURAGE. [ APPLAUSE ] A MAN OF HUMILITY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FIRST. >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A JOB EVERY DAY IN AND OUT FOR THE OFFICER RISKING HIS LIFE, HE OR SHE. OVER A THOUSAND OFFICERS, HUNDREDTH OF A SECOND TO MAKE A DECISION. I CAN IMAGINE THE POSITION WHAT THIS OFFICER IS IN. GOES OUT, FINDS THEM, LOCATES THEM AND THEN MAKES A BUY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD. MORE DRUG DEALERS BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE DRUG USERS. NO DRUG USERS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY DRUG DEALERS OR SAY IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET. THANK THE OFFICER, THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF, SECOND IN COMMAND, LOOKING AT HER, THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO, WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED, YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF WHATEVER CITY YOU SERVE. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS TO THE OFFICER, YOUR COLLEAGUE, FOR KEEPING US SAFE. WE APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE AND WHAT THIS OFFICER IS DOING AND THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS YOU AND YOUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS THAT WEAR THE BADGE. WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] BRIEF PAUSE TO LET THE FOLKS LEAVE. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I AM HERE FOR THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. VERY EXCITED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FACE THE PODIUM PLEASE. [ LAUGHTER ] >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST WAITING FOR EVERYBODY TO COME ON UP. WHO IS TAKING THE LEAD TODAY? OKAY. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. AND GOOD MORNING CITY OF TAMPA. I'M STEVE SIMON. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION LOCAL 1464. WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. APRIL GRANT. [ APPLAUSE ] APRIL IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE WITHIN THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO HER TEAM. HER CONSISTENT WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT BOTH HER IMMEDIATE TEAM MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS. SHE APPROACHES EACH CHALLENGE WITH A STRONG EAGERNESS TO LEARN AND PROACTIVE ATTITUDE IN APPLYING NEWLY ACQUIRED KNOWLEDGE TO ENHANCE WORK FLOWS. APRIL HAS DEMONSTRATED A STRONG COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION AND PROBLEM SOLVING. SHE FREQUENTLY GOES THE EXTRA MILE TO HELP UNCOVER AND ADDRESS THE MISSING PIECES NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD. HER EFFORTS HAVE MADE HER A RELIABLE AND RESPECTED RESOURCE THROUGHOUT THE OPERATION. NOTABLY, APRIL PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN CLEANING AND VETTING RECORDS AND STREAMLINING THE CHAMBER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM SCHEDULING PROCESS, EFFORTS THAT HELPED US REACH OUR ANNUAL GOALS. HER DEDICATION CONTINUES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY AND STRENGTHEN TEAMWORK ACROSS ALL LEVELS OF THE OPERATION. AND WE THANK YOU, APRIL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN DOING WHAT YOU DO TO KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING. SO, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD. [ APPLAUSE ] I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, ELIE FRANCO, TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> THANK YOU, STEVEN. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. WHEN I THINK OF APRIL, THE WORD THAT COMES TO MIND IS SPONGE. SOMEONE THAT IS ALWAYS NOT ONLY FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND, BUT WHAT'S NEXT. WHAT ELSE CAN I LEARN? HOW ELSE CAN I CONTRIBUTE? SHE JOINED THE WATER TEAM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. STARTED OUT IN THE CALL CENTER. THAT'S NOT AN EASY ASSIGNMENT TO BREAK INTO THE BIZ, BUT SHE HANDLED IT VERY WELL. AN OPPORTUNITY CAME UP WITHIN THE LAST YEAR TO MOVE INTO THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF OUR BUSINESS. SHE MOVED OVER THERE AND BROUGHT THE SAME SPIRIT OF I WANT TO LEARN AND I WANT TO LEARN MORE. SO ON BEHALF OF RORY JONES, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WHO COULD NOT BE HERE THIS MORNING, BUT WHO HANDPICKED EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS BAG, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE WATER TEAM, CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING NOMINATED AND SELECTED AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU WITH SOME THINGS. I'M THE ZOO TODAY, TOO. I'M DOUBLE DUTY. SO THIS IS FOR YOU FOR THE ZOO. THIS IS SIX PASSES TO ENJOY THE DAY AT THE ZOO AND YOUR ANIMAL IS A MANATEE, OF COURSE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MARY DILLON FROM THE STRAZ CENTER. CONGRATULATIONS, MS. GRANT, ON YOUR AWARD. THIS IS MY BUSINESS CARD. I WILL BE SENDING YOU TICKETS VERY SHORTLY, WORKING THROUGH KELLY SCHARF FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S OFFICE. YOU'LL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS FOR UPCOMING PERFORMANCE ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING. BRIAN FORD, APOLOGIZED HE HAD TO LEAVE. TRAINING CAMP WAS CALLING. YOU RECEIVED TODAY'S GAME BALL. CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS. [ APPLAUSE ] AND ALSO, ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP, WE FIND IT VERY FITTING TO GET A GO LOCAL TAMPA GIFT CARD FOR YOU. ENJOY IT. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, APRIL. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE WATER GOING AND KEEPING TAMPA RUNNING. I'M LORI OSBORNE. I AM WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA. ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE IN OUR NEW SEASON. THEY ARE HERE, AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN. GOOD MORNING, MS. APRIL. GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN TAMPA AND COMMITTING YOURSELF TO HELPING US HERE THRIVE AS A CITY. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ENJOY YOURSELF AT ANY OF OUR RESTAURANTS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. PLEASE HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND ENJOY YOURSELF. THANK YOU AGAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> DO YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT HELPING YOU LOAD YOUR GIFTS? >> YES. >> LYNN, YOU HAVE TO COME UP HERE. NOT QUITE IN THE PICTURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO IS THE POLITICIAN? [ LAUGHTER ] >> LYNN. STEVE MICHELINI. HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS. WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND. GIFT CERTIFICATE TO CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP ON SOUTH HOWARD. THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO AND THE MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK. SOME OF THESE CERTIFICATES I'LL HAVE TO GET TO YOU. BEEN A LITTLE PREOCCUPIED THE LAST FEW DAYS. ANYWAY, THERE IS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SAFETY. I WOULD THINK THAT WATER IS RIGHT UP THERE. I HAD A CALL YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME WATER ISSUES AND THEY GOT RIGHT ON IT WITH RORY JONES AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING US HEALTHY. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>LYNN HURTAK: AND FROM A GRATEFUL CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE PRESENTING YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE HONOR TO GUARD, FIRST OF ALL. AND MY TEAM THAT HELPED MOVE ME. IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE. EVERYBODY PLAYS A PART. IF IT WASN'T FOR MY TEAM, I WIWOULDN'T BE WHO I AM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE HELPING ME AND THERE FOR ME. MY SUPERVISORS AND DIRECTORS, IF I NEED SOMETHING, CAN I ALWAYS GO TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND THERE'S NO ISSUE. HAVING A GREAT TEAM HELPED MOTIVATE ME TO BE A BETTER PERSON AND BETTER PERSON FOR THE DEPARTMENT. I JUST ENJOY WORKING FOR THE CITY AND KEEPING IT GOING WELL. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. [ APPLAUSE ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, APRIL. WE AS CITIZENS AND AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE TURN ON THE WATER, IT'S FOR GRANTED IT'S THERE. DAY IN AND DAY OUT, 365 DAYS A YEAR FOR MANY YEARS. THE WATER QUALITY IS THERE. THE CLEARNESS IS THERE AND THE PRICE IS RIGHT. THAT'S ALL TV SHOWS. SO WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS MAKES THE CITY OF TAMPA NOT RUN BUT STAY IN PLACE AND PRODUCE THE QUALITY, THE QUANTITY WITHIN THE 85 MILLION -- THANK YOU AND THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK WITH YOU. THE DIRECTOR OF WATER. THE SUPER DEPARTMENT HEADS. EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MR. FRANCO, ALL OF YOU. AND THE ATU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOU LIKE THEY ARE. CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS. YOU HAVE A REALLY WONDERFUL DEPARTMENT. I GET A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK. THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE A GREAT DEPARTMENT HEAD AND A WONDERFUL TEAM. EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, AND YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL AND INTEGRAL PART OF THAT, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW, THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, BUT WHAT YOU DO DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. AGAIN, I GET A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN MY OFFICE FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND QUALITY, SO PEOPLE DO GREAT WORK. YOU MAKE US PROUD EVERY DAY AND THIS IS WELL DESERVED. >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE OFFICER, WE HAVE A RULE THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING IN THESE SECTIONS, SO WE TRY NOT TO. INNS EVERYBODY ELSE IS WEIGHING -- SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS WEIGHING IN, I'LL WEIGH IN AND THANK THE OFFICER BEFORE, TOO. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN THE DEPARTMENT AS MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID. I GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE WATER DEPARTMENT. YOU ARE PROACTIVE AND WORK WITH PEOPLE. IT'S OUTSTANDING SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, COME FROM RORY? COME FROM THE OTHER MANAGERS? I ALSO NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS DEPARTMENT. WHATEVER YOU ALL ARE DOING, PLEASE KEEP IT UP. PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT SERVICE BECAUSE THE CONSTITUENTS APPRECIATE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. YOU REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT AND ATU VERY WELL. THANK YOU. HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY. [ APPLAUSE ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS FROM THE CHURCH THAT WERE ON THE BUS IN THE PARKING LOT? GOOD MORNING AGAIN. CHIEF BENNETT. >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC. I JUST WANTED TO SEIZE THE MOMENT AND THANK COUNCIL FOR MOVING UP THE SHORT ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE. IT WAS RELEVANT BECAUSE I HAD TWO UNION PRESIDENTS HERE, BOTH STEVE SIMON AND BRANDON BARCLAY FROM THE ATU AND PBA. JUST A LITTLE FORECASTING FOR COUNCIL, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF APRIL THIS YEAR, ALL THE WAY TO JUST YESTERDAY, WE HAD BEEN NEGOTIATING AND THEN YESTERDAY WAS THE FINAL RATIFICATION FOR THREE OF OUR FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. YESTERDAY, THE PBA RATIFIED BOTH THE LIEUTENANTS AND OFFICER THROUGH SERGEANT AGREEMENT AND ATU RATIFIED THEIRS JUST RECENTLY BEFORE THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK BOTH UNIONS FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND ANNOUNCE TO COUNCIL THAT OF THE THREE OF THE FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN RATIFIED, WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOUR OFFICES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE STAFF AND, OF COURSE, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS WELCOME TO TALK TO THE UNIONS. WE NEGOTIATED IN FRONT OF HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES IN THE SUNSHINE. AGAIN, SINCE APRIL. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CLOSING OUT THE REMAINING ONE. AS COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC PROBABLY KNOW, 3800 OF OUR 5,000 EMPLOYEES ARE IN OUR BARGAINING UNITS BETWEEN THE ATU, PBA AND IAFF. AGAIN, WE WELCOME CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL AND, OF COURSE, COUNCIL WITH THE UNIONS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE CONTRACTS COME THROUGH OnBase. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL AND APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK OF STAFF, ESPECIALLY LEGAL, HR, AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE ONLINE PERSON. IS THAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH? IS HE ONLINE? MR. RANDOLPH. >> YES. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. TODAY I BRING YOU TWO URGENT ISSUES IMPACTING AFRICAN AMERICANS. THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AND THOSE STRIVING. FIRST, THE PAST, WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE DESIGN GEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CENTER. BUILD, DESIGN AND RELATED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. THIS INITIATIVE IS MORE THAN CULTURAL IN ITS TRANSFORMATION. DESIGN -- DESIGN CENTER WILL SERVE AS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ANCHOR OFFERING GEOLOGICAL SERVICES, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND MORE. IT IS AN INCOME MODEL GENERATING REVENUE THROUGH OPEN SPACE, RENTAL SPACE PROGRAM, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC RETURN FOR THE CITY. THE MEMORIAL PARK IS MORE THAN A PUBLIC SPACE. IT IS A REFLECTION, EDUCATION, AND RECONCILIATION. NOW THE PRESENT. SINCE 1990, THE WEST TAMPA POPULATION HAS DECREASED BY 50%. THIS IS NOT A STATISTIC. THIS IS A WARNING. DISPLACEMENT, CULTURAL ERASURE -- OF RESHAPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS WHY WE ARE LAUNCHING THE BLACK AGENDA, A CONVERSATION WITH WEST TAMPA PREACHER TIED TO THE UPCOMING DISTRICT 5 SPECIAL ELECTION. THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING BRINGING IN RESIDENTS, NONPROFITS, CANDIDATES TO DISCUSS REAL SOLUTIONS ON AUGUST 27 AT 4 P.M. AGAIN ONLINE. THIS WILL BE STREAMED LIVE, VOICES FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO TALK ABOUT STRATEGY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS OUR MOMENT TO LISTEN, LEAD, AND ACT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS FRED HEARNS FOLLOWED BY RON WEAVER. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS. I'M PRESIDENT OF THE ZION CEMETERY, PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE SOCIETY. I HAVE APPEARED BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST. JUST TO REITERATE THE REQUEST FOR $8 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO BRING TOGETHER THE PROPERTY THAT IS NEEDED TO CREATE THIS MEMORIAL SITE AT THE ZION CEMETERY. SEVERAL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY ALONG WITH SOME OTHERS I BELIEVE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING. PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE OLD ROBLES PARK PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT TODAY, AS OF TODAY, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THINGS TO COME TOGETHER SO WE CAN ACCUMULATE THE PROPERTY UNDER OUR NONPROFIT AND THEN BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE MEMORIAL SITE FOR WE BELIEVE SOME 850 GRAVES. PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DIED AT A TIME WHEN, OF COURSE, THINGS WERE SEGREGATED, BUT RICHARD DOBY, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE. DOBYVILLE, PURCHASED THIS LAND FOR A CEMETERY FOR BLACK PEOPLE. SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT THE RIGHT THING BE DONE. I ALSO SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. OUR CHAIRPERSON, CONNIE BURTON, IS HERE. OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ARE HERE. I WAS CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT FORGOTTEN AND IGNORED HISTORY. THAT WAS MY ASSIGNMENT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. THIS IS EXAMPLE NUMBER ONE. THE ZION CEMETERY. IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION. WE'VE BEEN TOLD HERE AND THERE THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING PROGRESS. IT'S SORT OF A COMPLICATED MATTER BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THINGS BEFORE. THIS IS IN THE HEART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. IT'S ALSO IN DISTRICT 5. AND IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I SPOKE WITH COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON ABOUT. AND SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE NOW HAVE A HISTORIC MARKER ON FLORIDA AVENUE THAT THE THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT DRIVE NORTH ON FLORIDA SEE EVERY DAY, ALONG WITH A BANNER THAT LISTS THE NAMES OF SOME OF THOSE 850 PEOPLE BURIED AT ZION. AGAIN, THIS IS AN $8 MILLION ASK. IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER FOR THIS CITY, BUT IT'S NEEDED FOR US TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE ZION CEMETERY SITE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PERRY HARVEY PARK BAND SHELL. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. RON WEAVER, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M RON WEAVER, 4403 WEST DALE AVENUE. I RISE ON THE OCCASION OF ITEM 54, WHICH IS TO NAME STREET PREFERABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF TAMPA STADIUM FOR GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY. I SPOKE TO LEONARD LEVY A WEEK OR TWO OKAY. HIS IDENTICAL BROTHER BORN IN 1933, LOOKING AT THOSE TWO PERFECT TWINS AND WONDERING WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR THE CITY? WHAT KIND OF MEN WILL THEY BECOME? WELL, GEORGE LEVY WAS A U.S. SPORTS WRITER AFTER A GREAT CAREER AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL. HE WILL BE ON APRIL 3, 1974, DRAKE HOTEL IN NEW YORK CITY TRYING TO GET TAMPA A TEAM. THEY ONLY HAD THREE STRIKES AGAINST THEM. NUMBER ONE, INSUFFICIENT SEATS IN THE BIG SUN BROTHERO. NUMBER TWO, INSUFFICIENT HOTEL ROOMS AND NUMBER THREE, NO OWNER. APRIL 3, 1974 IN THE BRAKE HOTEL AND ORIGINAL LEVY AND HIS BROTHER LEONARD AND THE TEAM OF CHUCK SMITH AND THE LEADERS OF TAMPA WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE THE NFL TO ALLOW AN EXPANSION FRANCHISE TO TAMPA. GET US THE TAMPA BAY BUCS. SAVING OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ALSO INVOLVED KEEPING THE BUCS HERE WHICH INVOLVED A STADIUM, WHICH INVOLVED A TRIP BY GEORGE LEVY INTO MAYOR DICK GRECO'S OFFICE WITH A HALF A PENNY. HE HAS A TROPHY COMPANY, VERY SUCCESSFUL NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED 30,000-SQUARE-FOOT TROPHY COMPANY AND GEORGE WITH HIS MACHINERY CUTS A PENNY IN HALF. IN 1995, TAKES IT INTO THE OFFICE OF DICK GRECO IN THIS BUILDING AND HANDS HIM A HALF PENNY. WE NEED A HALF CENTS SALES TAX. WE NEED IT FOR THINGS LIKE KEEPING THE BUCS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, 89% WON'T GO THROUGH BUCS STADIUM. GO THROUGH SCHOOLS WHICH SAVE THEM. ROADS, WHICH SAVED THEY WILL. DRAINAGE, WHICH SAVED THEM. WATER DEPARTMENT, APRIL AND HER TEAM THIS MORNING RECOGNIZED. THIS MAN, GEORGE LEVY AND HIS BROTHER LEONARD LEVY DESERVE SOMETHING NAMED IN THEIR HONOR NEAR TAMPA STADIUM BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO INSTILL IN THIS COMMUNITY THE CONFIDENCE OF GETTING US THE BUCS. TOGETHER, THEY GOT US NOT ONE BUT TWO DIFFERENT SUPER BOWLS AND FINALLY I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, DAVID KENNEDY, ONE OF THE MOST DISTINGUISHED PHILANTHROPISTS IN THIS TOWN, AS SWIM COACH, GEORGE LEVY, NOT JUST TEACH YOU HOW TO SWICK, MAIM MEN OF YOU. GEORGE LEVY MADE MEN AND WOMEN OF CHARACTER AND VALUES OUT OF HUNDREDS OF TAMPA'S LEADERS. GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY, I STAND IN THEIR HONOR. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. WEAVER. NO CLAPPING NO FINGER SNAPPING. CONNIE BURTON. >> GOOD MORNING. CONNIE BURTON. AUGUST IS RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AS A TIME TO REFLECT ON THOSE THAT HELP FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AND JUSTICE, LIBERATION OFFICERS AND WARRIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT ALSO REFLECT BASED ON THE ONGOING STRUGGLE OF INCARCERATION. WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN A TIME THAT JUST A HANDFUL HAVE ACCUMULATED BASED ON CRIMINAL HISTORY, I WONDER AND SAY WHAT DID OUR POLITICAL LEADERSHIP DO TO HELP TURN THE CIRCLE AROUND? SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS MORNING A YOUNG MAN THAT PUT OUT A BOOK CALLED THE DARK WEB. BACK IN CALIFORNIA, GARY -- CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME RIGHT NOW -- BUT HE TALKED ABOUT HOW COCAINE AND CRACK COCAINE ENTER INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY. IT DIDN'T WALK ITS WAY HERE. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND EVEN AFTER THE NUMBER OF SO-CALLED HUNDRED PLUS ARRESTS, WE STILL DEALING WITH ISSUE OF COCAINE AND DOPE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW WHY? WE DON'T HAVE POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP TO TURN THE WHEEL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOW DO WE GIVE VOICES TO THE ENERGY OF AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT CONSTANTLY COME HERE AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO RECTIFY THE HARM DONE BY POLITICAL LEADERS. SO, YES, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RECKONING FOR ZION. YES, WE DO. YES, YOU CAN FIND $8 MILLION. YES, YOU DO HAVE IT. I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW WE WAS ABLE TO, DESPITE THE SCRAWL IN SOME WAYS THE NOT WANTING TO DO A SUCCESSFUL SUMMER PROGRAM, WE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. THE CITY STAFF, MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND HER STAFF WAS ABLE TO HELP A FEW YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT THE 72 THAT REQUESTED, NOT THE 142 THAT WE GET NEXT YEAR, 144 OR MORE, BUT WE DO HAVE VOICES IN THIS CHAMBER THIS MORNING THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS ABLE TO BRING SOME LIGHT INTO THEIR LIVES. HOW THAT PROGRAM, AND THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE AS EXAMPLES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT IF THEY ARE JUST GIVEN A MERE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GIVEN A MERE OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE? MISSING IN ACTION BASED ON THE LONG HISTORY OF INCARCERATION. MR. MIRANDA GOT IT RIGHT THIS MORNING. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE DOPE USERS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE DOPE SELLERS. WE WANT TO KILL IT OFF. WE DON'T WANT NO MORE DOPE SELLERS AND WE DON'T WANT NO MORE DOPE USERS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON. ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY -- ASHLEY, GOING ONCE? ASHLEY? GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS ASHLEY DIJON. I WANTED TO GIVE THANK YOU TO MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND MR. HUNTLEY. IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE PROGRAM. THIS INTERNSHIP IS VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO STUDENTS. IT GIVES US HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE AND OPENS A LOT OF DOORS. TOWARD THE CAREERS THAT WE WANT TO BE AND GOING INTO. NOT ONLY HAVE THEY HELPED US WITH A JOB, BUT THEY HELPED US FILLING OUT OUR RESUMÉ. THEY HELPED US WITH OUR BODY LANGUAGE, HOW WE SHOULD SPEAK TO PEOPLE, HOW TO APPLY FOR A CREDIT CARD. HOW TO FILL OUT A W-4 FORM. HOW TO PRESENT YOURSELF. HOW TO HAVE HOME SKILLS THAT MAYBE YOU WEREN'T TAUGHT. YOU GET TO MEET A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE. I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I NEVER -- I MET THE MAYOR. IT IS VERY GREAT THAT WE GET TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE SO I GET TO DECIDE IF I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS NOW THAT I'M GETTING TO DO THIS HANDS-ON. THIS IS A VERY GREAT EXPERIENCE. NOT ONLY THAT, I JUST GRADUATED. THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SEE IF THEY CAN HIRE ME FULL ON WITH THE CITY. AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT I GET TO -- THEY ARE JUST DOING A LOT FOR ME RIGHT NOW. I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING THIS PROGRAM. THIS HAS HELPED A LOT OF KIDS, A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS. IT OPENS THEIR EYES, LIKE, THEY GET TO MATURE A LITTLE FASTER AND LEARN WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR MONEY. I THANK EVERYONE FOR HAVING ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL BREAK COUNCIL RULES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND. SYIP. >> THE SUMMER YOUTH INTERN PROGRAM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. HOW MANY MONTHS WERE YOU IN IT? >> TWO MONTHS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY. [ APPLAUSE ] WE'LL ALLOW THE CLAPPING FOR THAT ONE. BYRON. DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK. OKAY. MARTY GREEN? HIDING IN THE BACK. THE NEXT ONE, GERALDINE WILLIAMS AFTER MARTY. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARTY GREEN. I'M WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, CITY OF TAMPA. THIS IS MY SUPERVISOR, MICHAEL BROWN. I'LL GO TO THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I WAS FORCEFULLY -- SAY IT AGAIN -- FORCEFULLY. I HAD TO PAY MICHAEL BROWN TO WORK OVER-TIME. AGAIN, I LOOK, HE SAY HE WAS IN A MEETING. HE TOOK THE MONEY, THEN I GO BACK UP. HE SAY, STICK WITH ME, NEVER LEAD YOU ASTRAY. HE WANTED ME TO SET GUYS UP. I REFUSED TO SET THOSE GUYS UP. I GO DOWN TO THIS PART, PARKS, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THERE. I HAD TO FORCIBLY SET THE EMPLOYEES UP AND I REFUSED TO SET THE EMPLOYEES UP. I TOOK IT TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND WROTE HER AN E-MAIL WHICH SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SHE TURNED IT OVER. I WROTE HER A LETTER AND I EXPLAINED TO HER, I TOLD HER MIKE BROWN ASKED ME ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS FOR MONEY AND EVERYTHING IS GOING UNDER UNETHICAL PRACTICES. ALSO, I REFUSED TO BUY HIM LUNCH AGAIN AND I REFUSED TO LET HIM BORROW $10,000. AS OF RIGHT NOW, LIKE I TOLD TWO YEARS AGO -- YEAR AGO, HIS WIFE -- HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY TO BUY A LAND ROVER FOR HIS WIFE. WHAT DOES HIS WIFE HAVE NOW, LAND ROVER. GUESS CITY EMPLOYEES GAVE HIM MONEY FOR IT. ALSO CONTACTED THE CHIEF OF STAFF SITTING TO MY LEFT. HE TOLD YOU ALL HE HAD AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, WHICH THAT IS A LIE. HE TOLD ME I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PEOPLE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I CALLED HIM AND TEXT HIM. THE TEXTS, HE DIDN'T RESPOND. I WENT TO BRIAN ROGERS. BRIAN ROGERS IS -- KKK. THEREFORE, EVERY DAY YOU CATCH HIM AT DEWEY'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE STUPID PRICES. HE IS AN ALCOHOLIC. HE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THEREFORE I CONTACT JEAN DUNCAN. NO RESPONSE FROM JEAN DUNCAN, NOT AT ALL. SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS IS, IF THIS GOING TO KEEP GOING ON, WHY WE HERE SPEAKING FOR THE SIMPLE FACT I'M FORCEFULLY HAVING TO GIVE MONEY TO A SUPERVISOR. THIS IS VERY UNETHICAL. THEREFORE, IF NOBODY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, IT WILL GO DOWN. I'LL SPEAK ON THE UNION CONTRACT. NONE OF US SIGNED THAT CONTRACT. NOT EVEN EXECUTIVE BOARD SIGNED THE CONTRACT. STEVE SIMON DOCTORED THAT CONTRACT UP. WE DID NOT WANT THAT. WHY WOULD WE TAKE A PAY CUT FOR HIM TO GET 24%. NO, WE DIDN'T DO THAT. TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF AND GAVE US A CONTRACT THAT WAS BOO-BOO. HOW DOES TPD GET 6% ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND WE ONLY GET 12. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. WE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GERALDINE WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY RIVA AMMANN. >> I'M GERALDINE WILLIAMS. I AM HERE AS THE DAUGHTER OF MR. JUDGE AND MS. MILDRED OF YBOR CITY. I'M ALSO THE MOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE SECOND AND GRANDMOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE THIRD. I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I AM A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF ONE OF THE BODIES THAT HAS BEEN INTERRED AT ZION CEMETERY. I COME TO YOU WITH A VERY EMOTIONAL, VERY SUBSTANTIAL PRESENTATION, AND I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU THAT I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU AREN'T DOING ANYTHING. BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT, I WANTED TO COME TO YOU TO SAY, LET ME HELP YOU OUT. I DID SOME RESEARCH BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT PERHAPS YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, AND YOU DON'T APPRECIATE WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHOM WE HAVE HAD IN OUR FAMILIES, AND OURS IS ANA REBECCA WYCHE. I FOUND HER BECAUSE OF FAMILY RESEARCH. AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT IT WAS A BLACK MAN, YOU HEARD OF HIM, RICHARD DOBY IN 1894 WHO PURCHASED THE LAND AND DOBY GAVE THAT LAND TO THE CITY FOR BLACKS WHO LIVED IN DOBYVILLE TO BE BURIED. AND THE CITY -- AND THIS IS WHY I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND -- WE ARE NOT JUST COMING TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE JUST COMING TO YOU, BUT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN THE ACTIONS THAT WERE ILLEGAL. THEY TAXED THE CEMETERY AFTER THEY WEREN'T PAID. THEN AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REALLY HIGH IN THE CONFEDERATE ARMY AND HIGH IN THE CITY AND COUNTY HERE, HE WAS THE TAX COLLECTOR, AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS ASSIGNING THE TAXES. THEN HE SAID HE PAID THE TAXES, SO IT WAS HIS LAND. WELL, HE WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP IT AT THAT TIME, BUT LATER ON HE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT. AND THEN HE SOLD IT TO THE WHITE MAN FROM WHOM -- TO WHOM -- FROM WHOM DOBY HAD PURCHASED IT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WHILE YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY AT THIS TIME DID NOT ENGAGE IN THE ACTIVITIES, THEY DID EXIST. AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FRED HAS SAID AT LEAST TWO TIMES, AND OTHERS HAVE SAID, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO. ONE LITTLE DEVIATION IN THAT, THAT IS, WE WANT YOU TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS. YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M SO SORRY. YOU CAN E-MAIL US ANYTIME, ALL OF US. E-MAIL THE COUNCIL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REVA IMAN. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M REVA IMAN. I'M HERE SPEAKING NOT FOR MYSELF. I'M HERE SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE AND MY ANCESTORS. WHEN I SAY MY ANCESTORS, WHEN THEY BUILT THESE BUSINESSES AND THE HOUSING ON TOP OF THEM, THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING. THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING. I'M SPEAKING FOR MY ANCESTORS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM PEACE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM GRACE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE OUR HANDS AND SAY THANK YOU. THIS DAY AND TIME THAT THEY CAN REST IN PEACE IF WE CAN DO THE RIGHT THINGS TO BRING THAT PEACE TO MY ANCESTORS. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ME. I'M SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE. AND WHEN WE ASK FOR $8 MILLION JUST TO THINK I WAS THERE BECAUSE I WAS STAYING THERE, AND WHEN THEY WERE EXAMINING GOING ACROSS THERE, I WAS ABLE TO WALK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND SEE THE LIGHTUP OF THOSE BODIES. I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO CERTAIN THINGS TO VERIFY THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE THERE. IT WAS DISTURBING, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO BRING PEACE. WE ASK THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING. I SAID LAST WEEK IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT. YOU CAN MAKE HISTORY. YOU CAN BE A PART OF HISTORY. JUST TO THINK THE CITY IS GROWING, GETTING BIGGER, THINGS ARE CHANGING. PUT TROLLEYS GOING DOWN FLORIDA AVENUE. WHAT A WONDERFUL THING. VISITORS COME AND SAY ZION, FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE PASSING. THERE'S SOME PLUS TO THIS, BUT THERE'S SOME HURT TO IT AS WELL. AND IT HURTS ME MORE BECAUSE I WAS A RESIDENT STAYING THERE. SEEING WHAT WAS GOING ON, HEARING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND JUST TO SEE IT. I REALLY WISH YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND OBSERVE WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME. I THINK IT WILL PUT CLARITY IN YOUR HEART TO DO THE RIGHT THING. SO WE'RE ASKING AS A WHOLE THAT YOU PLEASE NOT FOR ME, BUT FOR MY ANCESTORS, DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LEROY. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. LET ME SAY THIS. PLEASE DO NOT USE THE TONE OF MY VOICE AS AGGRESSIVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME. >> LEROY LENTS, SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, 32-YEAR VETERAN. PUT THIS ON RECORD, PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE ME BY THE TONE OF MY VOICE BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS. I'M CLAIMING IT. I'M NOT DOWN HERE TO CAUSE A PROBLEM. I'M DOWN HERE TO START A SOLUTION TO OUR PICKUP GARBAGE AND IT'S WRONG. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS COMPLETELY WRONG FOR TEN OR MORE YEARS. IT'S NOT A BLACK THING. IT'S NOT A WHITE THING. IT AIN'T NO RACIST THING. IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR EVERY CITIZEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS. ABOUT THIS GARBAGE PICKUP. ON HOLIDAYS, WHEN THE HOLIDAY FALL ON A MONDAY, I AIN'T GOING TO PUT IT OUT LIKE THIS, BUT EAST TAMPA -- MORE HOLIDAYS ON MONDAY RATHER THAN TUESDAY, WHICH DOWN SOUTH GET PICKED UP. IT'S RIDICULOUS. ON A HOLIDAY WEEK, WE ALREADY SHORT WHEN WE COME IN BECAUSE WE ARE ON TEN-HOUR SHIFTS. BACK IN THE DAY, THEY USED TO CHANGE OUR SHIFT TO FOUR DAYS BECAUSE THE CITY ONLY PAYING US EIGHT HOURS FOR THE HOLIDAY. SO 10, 10, 10, 8, ONLY 38 HOURS. THEY WERE USING PEOPLE ANNUAL TIME TO MAKE UP THE TWO HOURS. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THAT'S ILLEGAL. THEN THEY GET CLEVER AND TRY TO MAKE UP A 12 HOUR DAY. HOW YOU MAKE A 12 HOUR DAY OUT OF A TEN HOUR DAY? THIS CONTRACT. B 281 A POLICY, PURPOSE, THE CITY RECOGNIZE THAT THE INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE JOB SECURITY OF OITS EMPLOYEES DEPENDS UPON CITY SUCCESS IN PROVIDING PROPER AND EFFECTIVE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. I DON'T CARE IF SOMEBODY HOUSE ON FIRE ON A MONDAY, OH, WE'LL COME BACK ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED DAY. NO, THEY'LL COME AND PUT THE FIRE OUT. WHILE THE CUSTOMER -- YOU ALL JUST WENT UP ON THE RATES. ON JUNE 6, YOU ADOPTED A FIVE-YEAR RATE INCREASE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA. DIDN'T INCREASE THE RATES BUT AIN'T GIVING THEM THE SERVICE THEY ARE PAYING FOR. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. BACK IN THE DAYS HOW WE USED TO DO IT WHEN I FIRST STARTED AND THIS WAS BEFORE I STARTED IN 1993, IF A HOLIDAY FALL ON A MONDAY, WE COME ON A TUESDAY TO PICK UP MONDAY ROUTE. WEDNESDAY ON OFF DAY, WE PICK UP TUESDAY'S ROUTE AND THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, WE BACK ON TRACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BISHOP TOM SCOTT FOLLOWED BY SUGRET DOS. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOU. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE, PLEASE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK. CAN YOU RESET THE TIME? >> LET ME JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN ORDER IN TERMS OF SPEAKERS. EVIDENTLY GOT OUT OF LINE WHERE MRS. WILLIAMS WAS GOING TO SPEAK AND MR. WILSON AND THEN MR. HEARNS AND MYSELF SO THERE WOULD BE CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AS OPPOSED TO BEING BROKEN UP THE WAY IT IS. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I NOTICED AS YOU LISTEN TO ALL OF THE PERSONS WHO SPOKE ON ZION CEMETERY -- DID I STATE MY NAME? THOMAS SCOTT. IN CASE I DIDN'T, THOMAS SCOTT, PASTOR OF 34th STREET CHURCH OF GOD. I NOTICED YOUR EXPRESSION. I THINK YOUR EXPRESSION SAID THIS IS A HORRIFIC ISSUE. THIS ISSUE IS TERRIBLE. THIS ISSUE SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER HAPPENED. WHILE YOU DID NOT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, THERE WAS THOSE THAT DID ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN SOME YEARS AGO, AND I WOULD SAY ALL OF US SHOULD BE APPALLED AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND TAKEN PLACE AT THE ZION CEMETERY. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING THERE WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND BEING THERE AT THE MEMORIAL SERVICE AND VISITING THE VARIOUS GRAVE SITES THEY IDENTIFIED. IN MY OWN MIND, I COULD HARDLY IMAGINE HOW COULD ANYBODY OF CONSCIOUSNESS ALLOW THIS KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN, TO DISTURB THE GRAVE SITE, HUMAN BEINGS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED. SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED. I KNOW AS YOUR ROLE, THE MAYOR AND HER ADMINISTRATION ARE IN THAT PART OF ASSOCIATIONS. PERHAPS YOU CAN REQUEST A BRIEFING TO SEE WHERE THIS IS AND HOW IT'S BEING DEALT WITH AND HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED BECAUSE IN TALKING WITH MRS. WILLIAMS, THEY ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED, SEEM TO BE A DELAY, NOT BEING A MOVEMENT. SO I STAND TODAY WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND THE BOARD AND THE ZION CEMETERY TO SUPPORT THEM IN THIS EFFORT TO TRY TO GET RESOLUTION TO IT. IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. RICHARD GONZMART AND MR. CREED HAVE ALSO AGREED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE TRANSITION, OR THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY SO THEY CAN CORRECT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHOLE. I WOULD URGE YOU TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND TRY TO HELP IT TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN BRING PEACE TO THOSE WHO HAVE DIED AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISTURBED BY THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSES AND OTHER THINGS ON THIS CEMETERY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> I'M SURGRET DOSS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AFTER LUNCH, WHATEVER, AND ASK -- AND IF IT IS POSSIBLE, A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING THAT WE GET A WRITTEN UPDATE ON ZION AT A FUTURE MEETING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER. THANK YOU, SIR. SURGRET, GO AHEAD. >> AGAIN, SURGRET DOSS. REALLY, I DON'T CARE HOW ANYBODY TAKES IT. REGARDLESS OF THE STATUS, WHITE FOLKS IN TAMPA HAVE NO PROBLEM REMINDING BLACK PEOPLE THAT SEE US ANYTHING OTHER THAN N-ERS. IN TAMPA WHEN I TALK ABOUT WHITE FOLKS, THOSE CRACKERS ACROSS THE STREET IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, THEY CAN'T STAND BLACK MEN LIKE ME. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, THEY LOVE COMPLIANT NEGROES. ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO LOVE TO MIMIC TALKING POINTS AND SMILE NICE AND SHUFFLE AND BOOT LICK AND EVEN LET -- FOR A PAT ON THE HEAD, SOME CRUMBS OFF THE TABLE OR EVEN A COUPLE OF TRINKETS OF SILVER OR GOLD. NATURALLY, YOU ALL KNOW I DON'T FIT THAT MOLD. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE ME. I KNOW A LOT OF CRACKERS ACROSS THE STREET HATE IT. I HAVE A PROBLEM -- [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SURGRET, I'M SORRY, I KNOW A COUPLE WENT BY. BUT THE RACIAL EPITHETS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU PARAPHRASE THOSE TO KEEP THE CHAMBERS IN ORDER. >> STINKING WHITE PEOPLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE KIDS IN THE CHAMBER. >> YOU WANT ME TO CALIBRATE MY SPEECH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN ADD ONE MINUTE? >> WE'LL DO IT YOUR WAY. INTERESTING AGAIN. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IN THE FACT THAT I LIVE IN A COUNTY, BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL DRIVE OR MOVE AROUND, THERE IS A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG OUT THERE. USING CERTAIN RACIAL EPITHETS, WHICH IS FUNNY. WHEN YOU SAY N-ER, THAT'S OKAY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, NO, NO. >> LISTEN. THIS IS CALLED WHAT IT IS. I LIVE IN A COUNTY WITH A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG AT I-4. THEY ACTUALLY CHANGE IT FROM TIME TO TIME. I MAY DISAGREE WITH THE FLAG, BUT I DO REMEMBER I TOOK THAT OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. REMEMBER. YOU CAN LOOK AT MY 214 ALSO. KEEP THAT IN MIND. WHAT I ASKED YOUR ATTORNEY TO DO THE OTHER WEEK WAS TO LOOK INTO MY ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. AGAIN, I DON'T SOFT STEP. I SPEAK THE LAW, AND THEY HATE IT. I'M UNWAVERING. I'LL STAY THAT WAY. AS A VETERAN, I KNOW THAT I'VE EARNED MINE. LIKE MOSES IN THE BOOK THAT YOU ALL THUMP A LOT, DESPITE WHAT THE TRUTH WAS, HARDEN YOUR HEART. I'M NOT LIKING MYSELF TO MOSES OR ANY OF THE GREAT PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DEPICTED IN THAT BOOK BUT I'VE WALKED THESE STEPS ON MY OWN. I'M CLEAR WITH WHAT I SAY. I'M THE SAME GUY THAT TOOK ON THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR VIOLATIONS IN CHILD SUPPORT AREA. I WHIPPED YOUR JUDGE AND COP WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF PERJURY. I'VE TAKEN ON RECENTLY LAW FIRMS LIKE AUSTIN BASKLE, BANKER, LOPEZ, BUTLER, KATZ AND CRAIG. THEY ARE SO UNETHICAL. LIKE PETTY FOGGER. THEY USE DUBIOUS TACTICS TO TRY TO GET BY BUT THEY GET HELP FROM WHITE JUDGES LIKE JUDGE EMILY ANN PEACOCK AND PAUL HEALY. OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHAT GREG HOLDER TRIED TO DO TO ME BUT UNSUCCESSFUL. HOW MANY BLACK FOLKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE MY WHEREWITHAL THAT THEY SENT UP THE ROAD FALSELY. THAT BEING SAID, I HAD TO GO OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE COUNCILMAN'S SUGGESTION TO ME, ALTHOUGH I DO FIND IT DISRESPECTFUL CONSIDERING. TALK ABOUT THAT FLAG, DON'T TALK ABOUT WORDS. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT PEOPLE SAY FROM TIME TO TIME. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WEAR ON THEIR SHIRTS OR ON THEIR CLOTHING, BUT I RESPECT THEIR RIGHT TO USE THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WE LIKE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN BLACK FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO USE IT. THAT BEING SAID, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. YOU ALL TAKE CARE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ROBIN LOCKETT FOLLOWED BY ISLEY IRVIN. ROBIN. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. ROBIN LOCKETT. I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS TODAY. FIRST OF ALL, I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF ZION CEMETERY. I WAS A RESIDENT OF ROBLES PARK. ACTUALLY, THE CEMETERY WAS RIGHT UNDER THE APARTMENT THAT WE LIVED IN, 212 EAST KENTUCKY. SO IT IS DISTURBING THAT RESIDENCY WAS BUILT ON TOP OF THE CEMETERY. IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE SOMETHING HAS BEEN -- PROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN KEPT. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU FINDING IT IN THE BUDGET. THE ASKING AMOUNT IS $8 MILLION TO MAKE ZION CEMETERY WHOLE, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ABOUT REPARATIONS AND MAKING EVERYBODY WHOLE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION WHEN IT STARTS TO HAPPEN. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS FOR LOVE, GROW, THRIVE 2045. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAME OUT. THEY CAME OUT FOR A SPECIAL MEETING FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THEN THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING FOR EAST TAMPA. I APPLAUD THOSE WOMEN -- THE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT THEY DID. THEY GAVE GREAT INFORMATION. IF I HAD ANY CONCERNS, IT WOULD BE THAT WHEN THEY COME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY KEPT IDENTIFYING THAT THEY ARE GOING 35,000 FEET HIGH IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT PLAN. THAT THEY ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO SPEAKING, EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT DENSITY IS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR IS. JUST EXPLAIN AS THEY GO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE EXAMPLES TO HELP THE COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THEM PUTTING THAT MEETING ON. I APPLAUD -- I REALLY APPLAUD THE EMPLOYEES FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING THEIR TRUTH IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEPARTMENT THEY WORK IN. BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP IT JUST WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, NOBODY CAN HEAR IT. WITH THEM COMING TO COUNCIL, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT. IT'S UP TO SOMEBODY TO MOVE SOME. PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THING AND NOT GET RECTIFIED. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WHOEVER IS LISTENING TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, THAT THE EMPLOYEES COMING OUT AND BRAVE ENOUGH TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH, THAT THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DC GOUTOUFAS FOLLOWED BY -- >>BILL CARLSON: DC HAS AN INTERPRETER. SO HE SAID USUALLY WE ACCOMMODATE HIM WITH AN EXTRA TWO MINUTES FOR HIS INTERPRETER TO TRANSLATE. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TWO MORE MINUTES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND FROM HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? GOOD MORNING. WELCOME DC. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. MY NAME IS JESSICA. I WILL BE INTERPRETING FOR DC TODAY. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE HERE TODAY. MY NAME IS DC GOUTOUFAS. I'M HERE IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM 54 WHICH I SUBMITTED MARCH 25th WITH THE SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO REQUESTING AN HONORARY STREET RENAMING FOR JAY LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY, PREFERABLY NEAR THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM. I'M GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, CARLSON FOR INITIATING THE MOTION ON JUNE 5, 2025, AND TO THE CITY AND STAFF FOR PREPARING TODAY'S PRESENTATION. I SUBMITTED THE FORMAL REQUEST FOR THIS RENAMING EARLIER THIS YEAR AFTER WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCILMAN GUIDO ON IT FOR OVER A YEAR. THE MOTION IS NOW SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS NEAR THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM. WHERE THE LEVY BROTHERS LEGACY IS DEEPLY FELT. THIS MARKS THE THIRD INITIATIVE THAT I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO LEAD WITH OUR CITY. BEGINNING WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACCESS TELEVISION CAPTIONING DURING THE 1990s, FOLLOWED BY THE HONORARY STREET RENAMING FOR THE JAMES ROBINSKI NEAR DOWNTOWN TAMPA A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. GEORGE LEVY, THE BROTHERS MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN, THEY WERE -- I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SO NERVOUS READING THIS. THEY WERE THE CIVIC VISIONARIES AND PROUD SONS OF TAMPA WHO DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO ELEVATING THE CITY'S NATIONAL PROFILE. BEGINNING IN THE 1970s, LEVY BROTHERS PLAYED THE CRUCIAL ROLE IN BRINGING THE NFL TO TAMPA. THEY JOINED A SMALL BUT DETERMINED GROUP THAT WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH COMMISSIONER PETE ROSELLE AND THE TEAM OWNERS TO ADVOCATE FOR A FRANCHISE. THEIR EFFORTS WERE INSTRUMENTAL AND TAMPA BEING AWARDED THE BUCCANEERS IN 1974 WHICH WAS A MILESTONE IN CHANGING THE TRAJECTORY OF OUR CITY FOREVER. THEIR LEADERSHIP DID NOT STOP THERE. THE LEVY BROTHERS HELPED PUSH THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL TAMPA STADIUM AND LATER NAVIGATED THE POLITICS THAT LED TO THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM. THEY WERE THE KEY PLAYERS IN SECURING THE FIVE SUPER BOWLS FOR TAMPA, ALONG WITH NCAA MEN'S FINAL FOUR AND THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. THEY CHAMPIONED THE USF AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA ATHLETICS AND THEY SUPPORTED THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING, AND THEY HELPED GREAT THE SPORTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. IN 2021, THE SUPER BOWL, GENERATED MORE THAN 570 MILLION FOR THE REGION AND EACH YEAR. THE BUCCANEERS ALONE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN 100 MILLION AND THE LOCAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. THESE ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS BUT THEY REFLECT A LEGACY THAT CONTINUES TO BENEFIT EVERY CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY. AS FOURTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, I CARRY A DEEP SENSE OF PRIDE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY'S PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS THE FIRST GREEK TO SETTLE IN TAMPA IN 1887. 1990, I BECAME THE FIRST DEAF GRADUATE TO GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA. I GREW UP HEARING STORIES ABOUT THE LEVY BROTHERS FROM MY LATE FATHER WHO KNEW THEM AS CHILDHOOD NEIGHBORS. THEIR STORY IS TAMPA'S STORY AND IT DESERVES TO BE REMEMBERED. HONORARY STREET RENAMING IS FITTING AND LASTING TRIBUTE TO TWO MEN WHOSE VISION HELPED BUILD THE TAMPA BAY WE KNOW AND LOVE TODAY. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK WE GOT BOTH OF YOUR NAMES. STATE BOTH OF THE NAMES FOR US PLEASE. BOTH NAMES. >> DUVALIS GOUTOUFAS. JESSICA PREVADA. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TO SPEAK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR CITY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. CURTIS WILSON, FOLLOWED BY JARVIS. CURTIS WILSON. GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GET BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM YOUR FRIENDS. [ LAUGHTER ] >> GOOD MORNING. I AM CURTIS WALKER WILSON. I AM HERE AS THE VOICE FOR THOSE FROM MY ERA WHO ARE NO LONGER HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. THE ONES WHO WERE THERE WHEN THE CEMETERY, ZION CEMETERY WAS TAKEN FROM THEM. I AM 96 YEARS OLD. IF I LIVE TO SEE NEXT WEDNESDAY, I WILL BE 97. [ APPLAUSE ] I AM THE VOICE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THIS MORNING. THE ONES WHO WERE THERE, THEY WERE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD. THEIR VOICES MEANT NOTHING WHEN THEY TRIED TO SAVE THE CEMETERY. SO I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THIS ZION CEMETERY COMMITTEE IN THEIR EFFORTS TO BRING THIS CEMETERY BACK TO LIFE. I KNOW THAT'S AN OXYMORON, BUT THAT'S HOW I TALK. [ LAUGHTER ] WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. WE WAITED LONG ENOUGH. WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THAT MORNING TO BRING IT BACK. RIGHT NOW -- I AM ENTERTAINING POSITIVE VIBES ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE. I AM THE VOICE FOR A COMMUNITY, A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, RATHER, OF FAMILIES HOMEOWNERS. THEY WERE HOMEOWNERS, MODEST HOMES, BUT THEY WERE HOMEOWNERS. ROBLES POND, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED BACK THEN, WAS A VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF HOMEOWNERS AND MANY OF THEM, THEY HAD LARGE FAMILIES AND MOST OF THEM WENT ON AND DID WELL FOR THEMSELVES. THE WILSONS, THE DENNARDS, THE JAMES FAMILY, THE SUTTON FAMILY, THE SIMMONS FAMILY, WILLIAMS FAMILIES, TWO SETS OF WILLIAMS OUT THERE. MYERS FAMILY. LOGAN PATTERSON THOMPSON FLUKIER STONE. THERE WAS A SCHOOL, ROBLES POND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THREE CHURCHES, TWO BAPTIST CHURCHES AND AN AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH. I AM ACCOMPANIED F BY MY PASTOR TODAY. WE STAND HERE IN SUPPORT WITH THIS COMMITTEE TRYING TO GET THIS CEMETERY RESTORED. TO ME, IT IS SACRED. IT'S SACRED. I'M ASKING FOR A VOTE OF YEA ON THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD EXPEDITIOUSLY, GET THIS CEMETERY BACK WHERE IT WAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. WILSON. MR. HEARNS, I HOPE YOU HAVE HER TESTIMONY ON VIDEO. POINT OF ORDER. >>BILL CARLSON: I NOW COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO IS TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME UP SOME OTHER TIME, BUT HE'S HERE, AND THE PEOPLE ARE HERE. SHOULDN'T WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO RESPOND OR TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND? CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH ZION? THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR AN UPDATE ON ZION. I WAS JUST THINKING SINCE EVERYBODY IS HERE, YOU COULD ADDRESS THEM NOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I STEPPED IN THE BACK REAL QUICK TO ASK LISA TO CALL YOU, BUT YOU ARE HERE. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, IF IT WOULD BE PROPER TO MAKE A MOTION FOR WRITTEN UPDATE SEPTEMBER 18 OR OCTOBER 9 TO GET AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. I KNOW THERE WAS A NEWS STORY A MONTH AGO THAT PROGRESS WAS BEING MADE WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FIGURING THAT SITUATION OUT. >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE IF -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO GIVE CHIEF BENNETT A MINUTE TO RESPONSE. SECOND FROM VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. CHIEF BENNETT. >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING. JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS, I KNOW WE BUILT THE RICH OUT, RESOURCES COMMUNITY HOME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FLOURISH. WE WATCHED THE JOURNEY AS ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE MEMORIAL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I REMEMBER NURTURING THAT IDEA WHEN EVERYTHING CAME TO LIGHT ABOUT HAVING THE MEMORIAL. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLEXITY BETWEEN LAND AND THE MEMORIAL AND THE DESIGN AND, OF COURSE, THE FINANCING. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT BASED ON THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST DRAFTED TO BE FORMALIZED, THE CITY WILL GIVE A FULL-THROATED UPDATE AS SOON AS THE MOTION LANDS AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS FULLY AWARE. I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF WITH OUR STAFF THAT IS DOING ANYTHING BUT SUPPORTING THIS TO -- HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND WE'LL GET YOU MORE SPECIFICS AS WE JOURNEY ON. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU ALL FOR TURNING OUT TODAY. VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AND ALL MY FRIENDS ON THE BUS. WE'LL GIVE A MINUTE FOR EVERYBODY TO CLEAR OUT. JARVIS, YOU WILL BE NEXT TO SPEAK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN MY MOM AND MY GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM CUBA AND CAME TO TAMPA, THEY LIVED AT ROBLES PARK AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE THEY RENTED A HOUSE. I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY MOTHER IN THE DOORWAY. >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I SAY, IF I MAY? WALTER, I LOVE THAT SHIRT. I THINK THAT EVERY DAY. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL, COME TO ORDER. JARVIS EL AMINE. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. JARVIS EL AMINE, EAST 99th AVENUE. I ALSO SIT ON THE RECONCILIATION COMMISSION TOO. I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS INVITED HERE BY MS. GERALDINE WILLIAMS AND HER SON WALTER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT. I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU FOR REAL. I THINK ABOUT THE ZION CEMETERY, I THINK ABOUT BLACK WALL STREET. I THINK ABOUT BOMBING 900 BUSINESSES, DESTROYING THE LAND. HOW PEOPLE FELT WHEN THEY WERE JEWISH AND GOT REPARATIONS FOR WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM. THINK ABOUT THE JAPANESE AND WHAT HAPPENED IN REPARATION. I THINK ABOUT US AS AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SLAVERY, SUFFERING, 438 YEARS. I REMEMBER GROWING UP IN GEORGIA WHEN THE CEMETERIES WERE SEGREGATED. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE KIND OF HATE THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE IN THEIR HEART. DISTURB THE DEAD. MY FAITH, IT SAYS THAT THE DEAD CAN HEAR YOU TALK, BUT THEY CAN'T TALK BACK TO YOU. I GO TO THE GRAVEYARD AND TALK TO MY MAMA BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HEAR ME. I CAN IMAGINE THIS WOMAN THAT RAISED ME SO WELL, HOW SHE WOULD FEEL IF THEY BUILD ON TOP OF HER GRAVE. JIMMY BELL WOULD TALK ABOUT. SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAD START RATTLING THE GRAVE. UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU. THIS IS AMAZING, THEY DIDN'T PUT THE TIME ON ME. THEY STARTED LATE. THAT'S OKAY. .INJECT JIMMY BELL NAME AND ALL HAPPENS GOOD FOR ME. IT'S ON YOU, TOO, CHAIRMAN. WHAT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY THE TIME THAT IT STARTED BECAUSE I HAVE THREE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS UP THERE. >> LET ME SAY THAT ON THE REAL TIP. EACH ONE OF YOU ALL RAN FOR OFFICE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL. THE POLITICAL WILL TO TAKE POLITICS OUT OF IT. I HATE WHEN POLITICIANS SAY PUBLIC SERVANTS. NO, YOU ARE POLITICIAN. IF YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT, THESE KIND OF ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE YOU, PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS. IT WOULD PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS. WHEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CREATED THAT WE MAY KNOW EACH OTHER, NOT DESPISE EACH OTHER. WE'RE KEEPING OUR DUTY TO GOD. THIS LADY -- 38 YEARS AGO, GET THEM TO SUPPORT EVENTS I WAS DOING. ALWAYS WROTE ME A CHECK AND SHE WAS THERE. I NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. SHE'S 90 SOME YEARS OLD NOW. COUNCIL, I'M SAYING TO YOU, PLEASE, FIND THE POLITICAL WILL, FIND IT IN YOUR HEART, MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL. WE KNOW ALL OF YOU ALL. LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU CURIOUS? IF YOU ARE CURIOUS, BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, JARVIS. ISLEY FOLLOWED BY STEVE BYRD. WE HAVE FOUR MORE SPEAKERS, FYI. MR. IRVIN. ISLEY IRVIN GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE GONE. STEVE BYRD FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M STEVE BYRD. I LIVE AT 810 EAST SKAGWAY RIGHT IN THE THICK OF THINGS. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POOL TODAY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT DONE AND A LOT OF PROMISES MADE AND SO FORTH. I'M JUST GETTING UP TO SPEED ON IT. IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS DON'T WANT INPUT. IT WAS HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHEN -- IT MOVES ALONG REALLY FAST. I'M AFRAID THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE ACCEPTED THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY PROMISES, TOO MANY STUDIES. ANY OTHER AREA OF THE TOWN, THE CITY, IT WOULD BE DONE NOW. AND IT'S PATHETIC. I HEAR THINGS LIKE, WELL, PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T SWIM. THEY DON'T SWIM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A POOL. THEY'LL DROWN WHEN IT RAINS. THEY NEED TO SWIM. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR. ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW. I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, I LOVE BLACK HISTORY. I SEE PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, I CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY AND PUT IT ON RECORD. I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN. GREAT, GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIE MAY LUNGSFORD, KARL NATURAL SENIOR, MARL JUNIOR AND THEN MYSELF. I AM INVESTED IN LEARNING AND SHARING ALL OF TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY. MY FATHER'S UNCLE, GREAT UNCLE'S NAME WAS NORRIS MORROW. HE WAS A WHITE HAT DURING THE 1967 TAMPA RIOTS. THAT RIOT HAPPENED AFTER MARTIN CHAMBERS WAS SHOT IN THE BACK BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT HERE TO RAIL AGAINST THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED. IT IS SOMETHING I DID NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL AND SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT THAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY. AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A RECKONING ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE, BELMONT HEIGHTS. ALSO MY FAMILY CAME OUT OF BELMONT HEIGHTS, ALONG EMMA STREET. ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE ME AND IS A PART OF ME AND MY LEGACY. BACK TO MY UNCLE. HE GOES TO D.C. AND HE SPEAKS DURING A HEARING. THIS IS ON TV. I REMEMBER MY FATHER PROBABLY TOLD ME THIS TEN YEARS AGO. DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO IT. IT WASN'T UNTIL I SPOKE TO MR. HEARNS AND HE SHARED THIS HISTORY WITH ME. HE SAID, NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT. I FEEL LIKE TAMPA DOESN'T SHARE. IT DOESN'T ELEVATE ITS BLACK HISTORY BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE KNOW WHO THEY ARE, THEY START TO PUT VALUE ON THEIR LIVES. FOR ME, I FELT LIKE A MORE IMPORTANT PERSON JUST BECAUSE OF WHO THIS MAN WAS. AND I DID NOT KNOW. KNEW EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MAN BUT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. SOMETHING I LEARNED A FEW YEARS AGO THROUGH A BOOK CALLED TAMPA HISTORY, I BELIEVE BY CANTOR BROWN, ABOUT THE RECONSTRUCTION PERIOD. HE TALKS ABOUT A TAMPA MILITIA LED BY A THOMAS McKNIGHT WHO WAS ONE OF THE STARTERS OF THE HARLEM ACADEMY. THIS IS A LIST OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT WERE ON A BLACK MILITIA HERE IN 1870. FIVE YEARS AFTER SLAVERY ENDS HERE -- SIX YEARS, ACTUALLY, 1864. SO THESE PEOPLE'S NAMES ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT. AND THERE ARE PEOPLE AND CITIZENS HERE STILL IN TAMPA, AND THEIR LEGACY IS IMPORTANT. ONE NAME THAT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE AND I WAS LOOKING IT UP, BRYANT HORTON, DR. SAM HORTON BUILDING LOCATED ON 40th AND 21st. BIG PIC BUILDING. HE IS HIS DESCENDANT, AND THERE ARE OTHER NAMES. ANDREW STILLING WHO HAS A SUBDIVISION HERE IN TAMPA. I WILL STOP RIGHT THERE. I'LL BE HERE NEXT WEEK. THAT'S MY TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STEPHANIE POYNOR. VALERIE, I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR YOU. DID YOU FILL ONE OUT? MS. POYNOR, STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. YOU KNOW, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A BUDGET MEETING AND ABOUT FIVE MINUTES I CALCULATED $8 MILLION THAT WE COULD BE USING FOR A CEMETERY. OH, MY GOSH. THIS IS OUR LIST FROM 2023. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE FEES HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN RAISED SINCE 2023. I'M THINKING THE ANSWER IS ZERO. THE ONLY FEE I KNOW OF THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE LIST WE RECEIVED IN 2023 AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WAS FOR THE SIDEWALK FUNDS. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN ON THAT LIST. SO THAT'S MY ONLY KNOWLEDGE. NOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU KNOW I LOVE THE BUDGET. I WAS LOOKING AT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT LAST NIGHT. THIS WAS IN A MEETING. I WAS NOTICING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN LESS MONEY OVER TIME. NOW, WHEN MS. FEELEY CAME BEFORE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IN MARCH OF 2024, SHE SAID THAT THERE WAS A FEE STUDY BEING DONE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT. WHERE IS IT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S DONE. THERE IS ALSO A FEE STUDY -- THERE WAS ALSO A FEE STUDY BEING DONE FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HAVE THESE CHARGES FOR SERVICES ON BOTH OF THESE, AND THEY DON'T REALLY SEEM TO MATCH UP. YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ONE ANOTHER. WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT IS, WE GOT CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH IS A PITTANCE. $600,000. WHERE THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL MONEY IS THAT THE MONEY WE WERE SUPPLEMENTING THESE FEES? BECAUSE I REMEMBER, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE WEREN'T COVERING. SO IF A SERVICE COST, IF A SERVICE IS BEING CHARGED A HUNDRED DOLLARS IT ACTUALLY COSTS THE CITY A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THAT SERVICE. WHO IS PAYING THE DIFFERENCE? EVERYBODY WHO PAYS TAXES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PAYING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $100 AND THOUSAND DOLLARS. $900 IS COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS. I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WHERE I SEE THIS ISSUE. THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT. THEY CAME IN JANUARY OF 2023. I DON'T THINK THESE FEES HAVE BEEN CHANGED. WE WERE LOSING MONEY ON OUR BUSINESS TAX. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, THAT BUSINESS TAX HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1991. 1991. OH, MY GOD. I WAS 20 YEARS OLD. ANYWAY, THE PERSONNEL COST, THIS LIST IS HUGE. BOTTOM LINE, FIRST ONE, LOSING $541,000 THAT WE LOST THAT YEAR. ANOTHER BIG CHUNK OF MONEY, WE LOST $75,000 ON THESE FEES. WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF MONEY THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE TO PAY TAXES. AND WHAT MADE ME DIG INTO THIS IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEPT TALK, LIKE SCOPE CREEP ABOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE. LET'S CHARGE WHAT THE SERVICES COST FOR THE SERVICES. AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT BE OFFSETTING THOSE FEES. I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE PROJECTED $700,000 AND SPENT 11 MILLION. HOW DO YOU MISS 10.3 MILLION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAST BUT NOT LEAST, VALERIE BULLOCK. >> GOOD MORNING. VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON. THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD MEETING FOR ME TODAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED MOLD ME AND MADE ME INTO WHO I AM. MS. CURTIS WILSON, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW HER BUT WE KNOW HER BECAUSE THEY HAD WILSON FUNERAL HOME. AND IN THE '60s, IF YOUR SHOES WERE RAGGEDY, HER BROTHERS WOULD CALL YOU OVER THERE AND ASK WHO YOUR PARENTS WAS AND THEY WOULD BUY YOU SHOES. THEY DID A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BUILDING SOME APARTMENTS, LET'S PUT HER NAME ON THEM. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING. THE JACKSON HOUSE, TO BE SPECIFIC, I HAD CAME DOWN HERE I GUESS TUESDAY WHEN IT WAS ALL ON THE NEWS. THOUGHT I WOULD GET PIECE OF WOOD, SCARED TO GET CLOSE TO IT. BUT WE NEED TO GET WITH MRS. COLINS, WE NEED AN UPDATE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START. EVERYTHING YOU WANTED FELL INTO PLACE. NOW, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, LET'S GET IT GOING. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WAS HOUSING. AND HOW HOUSING IS TIED INTO RESOLUTION 568 AND 344. WE USED TO HAVE RED LINING, AND HAVE THE HOUSES DOWN THERE BEHIND BLUE RIB BON IN THE BOTTOM. SUBSTANDARD HOUSING. URBAN RENEWAL CAME THROUGH, TOLD YOU THE HOUSE WASN'T FIT FOR LIVING SO THEY BUILT YOU A HOUSE AND YOU GOT FUNDING. WHAT I'M SEEING GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, I WAS AT CRA. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT. I TALKED TO CDC. YOU ALL PUTTING IN THOSE 79 UNIT APARTMENTS THERE, WHY ARE THEY ALL TWO BEDROOMS. WHY AREN'T THERE THREE BEDROOMS. NOT ALWAYS THE PERFECT FAMILY. BOY AND GIRL. SOME HAVE FOUR AND FIVE CHILDREN. EVERYBODY FOCUSING IN ON TWO BEDROOM AND ONE BATH. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THREE, FOUR, FIVE KIDS. WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO? ANYBODY THINK ABOUT THAT? WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS. ONLY ONES I KNOW ABOUT, THE OLD FUN-LAN PUT 6 IN THERE. THE CUBAN GUY WHO I DON'T KNOW, THEY GOT THOSE RIGHT THERE ON 22nd STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE. WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS, BIGGER THAN TWO BEDROOM. WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS. I REALLY FEEL LIKE ME AND THE PUBLIC GOT BAMBOOZLED. EVERYBODY IS PUSHING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES, AFFORDABLE, BUT HUNDRED, HUNDRED, 120 PERCENT OF THE AMI, WHAT ABOUT THE 30 AND 50 PERCENT, THE PEOPLE BEING LEFT BEHIND. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE START BUILDING HOUSES AND APARTMENTS, WE NEED TO SPLIT THEM. HALF FOR 30 AND 50 PERCENT. HALF FOR 80 AND 120 PERCENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT TO BUILD TEN APARTMENTS, TWO 30% INCOME, THE REST OF THEM IS FOR HIGH INCOME. SO WE ARE STILL BEING LEFT BEHIND. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. HEARNS, I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD ME EARLIER, I HOPE YOU GOT MS. CURTIS' HISTORY ON TAPE. SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HER LIFE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. PUBLIC SAFETY, COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 3-5. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR NUMBER 9. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PULL 9 FOR SEPARATE VOTE. >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE WE DO THIS, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO SPEAK. ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS TALKED ABOUT THE SULPHUR SPRINGS RESTORATION. I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE. THIS $1.8 MILLION GOES TO RENOVATE OR TO FIX THE SEAWALL AND TO DO SOME OF THE INJECTIONS OF THEY CALL IT MORTAR TO GO UNDER THE POOL TO HELP STABILIZE IT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING FOR. THIS WILL GET STARTED. AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER THAT. BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY MOVING ALONG. ENGINEERS TAKE A WHILE. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. ALSO, THERE IS A SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL COMMITTEE TO DEFINITELY SEARCH FOR THEM. IF I COULD GET MS. SCHARF TO COME OUT. MY AIDE WILL MEET YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGE SO YOU CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM. I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 14 BUT NOT 9. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW I MOVE ITEM 9. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE ITEM 9. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? OPPOSED? >>BILL CARLSON: NAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, CAN YOU READ THAT VOTE? >>THE CLERK: THE ITEM PASSES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE MOVING ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE. COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. PULLED ITEM 20. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS -- I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 21, MINUS 20 BECAUSE IT WAS PULLED AND FOR 15, THAT IS A BEAUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. HEAR ITEM 20 AS FIRST STAFF REPORT. FINANCE COMMITTEE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 22-25. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE. >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR NUMBER 33 AND FILE A FORM LATER. MY COMPANY WORKS WITH A COMPANY THAT'S RELATED TO THIS. I'LL RECUSE MYSELF. I MOVE 26 THROUGH 32 AND THEN 34 THROUGH 35. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. FOR ITEM 33, WE ARE PULLING THAT SEPARATELY. THAT WOULD BE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEM 33. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MOVING ITEM 33. SECOND FROM VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MOBILITY ASSET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE -- >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE THE FORM LATER. MOBILITY ASSET COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 36-43. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 36-43. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. COUNCILWOMAN. LIKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. I HAD A SECOND ON THAT AS WELL. I THINK IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS. HERE WE ARE. ITEM NUMBER 44. >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS PRESENTING FILE VAC-24-12, SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS? >> TERESA McNEIL. I AM THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM IS OUT. WE'LL HAVE TO DO A VERBAL ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 44. [INAUDIBLE] -- SUBDIVISION RECORDED IN BOOK 4169, PAGE 1044, OF THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, O.R., AND A PORTION OF GREEN AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT LIES IN THE PLAT OF BROBSTON-FENDING COMPANY'S HALFWAY ADDITION AS RECORDED IN O.R. PLAT BOOK 2 AT PAGE 78, AND A PORTION OF THE UNNAMED AND UNPLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ABUTS INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOCATED NORTH OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF THORNTON AVENUE, EAST OF 1st STREET, AND WEST OF ELKINS AVENUE AND ARE MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ITEM 45. >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, PRESENTING VAC 25-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S ON BECAUSE I LEFT IT ON. IF WE TAKE A VOTE, NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER. LOOKING AND TWO NOES ON THIS ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S TAKE A STRATEGIC JEOPARDY PAUSE. APPLICANT? >> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? HEARING NO QUESTIONS, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 45? HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 45? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. FILE NUMBER VAC-25-07, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING CLOSING DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF ABDELLA STREET, SOUTH OF DEWEY STREET AND EAST OF MATANZAS AVENUE, AND WEST OF MacDILL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO. >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. ITEM 46. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WAS ABSENT AT THIS VOTE, BUT I REVIEWED THE RECORD AND I'M READY TO VOTE. >> MALORY LAGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT. AGENDA ITEM 46 IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE HONORARY NAMING OF THE MULTISPORT FIELD AT FOREST HILLS PARK IN HONOR OF OF ROLAND PAZ, SENIOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 46? MOTION TO CLOSE FROM HURTAK, SECOND BY MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE? >>LYNN HURTAK: AS A COUNCILWOMAN, YES, I WILL. FILE HN25-15718, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE NAME OF THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD AT FOREST HILLS PARK IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR ROLAND PAZ SENIOR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR READING THAT MOTION. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO NOVEMBER 6, 2025, 10:30 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 48. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL. McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. ITEM 48 ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL NON-AD VALOREM STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT ROLL. THE PURPOSE OF THE ASSESSMENT IS TO GENERATE FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED BY THE CITY'S STORMWATER UTILITY IN THE PROVISION OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES. TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN INCORPORATED BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE CITY'S STORMWATER SERVICE AREA. AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2003. THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT RATE THIS YEAR IS $82 PER ESU, EQUIVALENT STORMWATER UNIT, AND HAS REMAINED THE SAME SINCE 2015. NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM. AS WITH ALL NON-AD VALOREM HEARINGS, PLEASE RECALL THAT THE VOTE NEEDS TO OCCUR WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN. STAFF AND I ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. PLEASE ALSO REMEMBER TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO ASK AGAIN, IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN THE RATE? >>McLANE EVANS: NO, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE RATE. IT HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2015. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. I LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE ONLY SPENT ON STORMWATER SERVICES. I WAS INFORMED BY SOMEBODY IN THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT THAT SHE SAID THAT THE FEES REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR SALARY INCREASES. SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT IN PUTTING THAT INTO PLACE. I ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY NICE LADY WHO CAME TO ME YESTERDAY, AND SHE ASKED ME IF SHE HAD A ROW OF TOWNHOMES. SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS. THERE WERE SEVEN TOWNHOMES. SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS AND THE OTHER FIVE ONLY PAID ONE. I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT WOULD BE. WE'LL DIG FURTHER. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE ARE WORKING ONLY ON STORMWATER. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. AND THAT STORMWATER IS ONLY PAYING FOR STORMWATER PEOPLE BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHO WERE BEING PAID WITH STORMWATER. I'M ALL FOR THIS. IF WE HAVE TO RAISE IT TO HELP PEOPLE'S HOUSES NOT GET FLOODED, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STORMWATER IS BEING SPENT FOR STORMWATER AND NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR. STATE YOUR NAME. >> STEVE MICHELINI. FIRST, THANKS TO HAGAR FOR DOING THE DEEP DIVE INTO THE STORMWATER FUNDING ISSUES AND ALLOCATIONS. IT'S APPARENT THAT MAINTENANCE IS A SERIOUS AND CONTINUING ISSUE, AND WE'VE AVOIDED IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD TO HAVE A WORK PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON MAINTENANCE FIRST BEFORE WE START UNDERTAKING MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND APPEARS THROUGH THE RESEARCH THAT A WHOLE GROUP OF TEAMS OF NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESSES HAVE CONDUCTED THAT SOME OF THE STORMWATER FACILITIES ARE NOT FUNCTIONING, HAVEN'T FUNCTIONED, AND WON'T FUNCTION WITHOUT SERIOUS MAINTENANCE BEING CONDUCTED. IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD, AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOR SETTING UP A SEPARATE MEETING ON MONDAY. I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE AN OVERFLOWING CROWD. ANYWAY, APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S ACTION. AS I SAY, GOING FORWARD, AN UNDERSTANDABLE WORK PROGRAM REGARDING MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY AND HAVING THE SPECIFIC MANPOWER AND EQUIPMENT TO CONDUCT THAT MAINTENANCE IS THE SECOND PART OF THAT. ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS ONE YET. WE KEEP THIS ONE OPEN BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 48. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ITEM 49. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. WE CAN REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S ALREADY BEEN OPENED BY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>McLANE EVANS: McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN. ITEM 49 ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE HEARING TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT. AS YOU MAY RECALL THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CENTRAL AND LOWER BASIN AREA. IT WAS IMPLEMENTED WITH A SCALED TIER APPROACH UNTIL THE FULL RATE OF $89.55 PER ESU WAS REACHED IN 2021. IT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME. THE RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS STILL $89.55 PER ESU. NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WERE RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM. AGAIN, PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN. STAFF AND I ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE STATED IT TWICE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 49? STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. IT'S FUNNY THAT MR. MICHELINI AND I RARELY AGREE BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE COULD FIX THE WINDOW THAT DOESN'T ROLL UP AND DOWN. WE CAN FIX THE BELT SQUEAKING ON OUR CAR. WE CAN FIX THE LITTLE BUMP IN THE BUMPER FOR A REASONABLE PRICE. BUT THAT SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, THAT'S US GOING OUT AND BUYING A NEW MERCEDES WITHOUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT IT FIRST. IF YOU ACTUALLY CLEAN OUT THE DITCHES, MAKE SURE THE PUMPING STATIONS WORK THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, MAYBE BUILD A NEW PUMPING STATION OR TWO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY TRUE EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK. MR. BHIDE WAS NOT A STORMWATER EXPERT. WE HAVE SOME STORMWATER EXPERTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM TESTIFY THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. IF IT WAS REALLY AND TRULY THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU KNOW I WOULD BE DOWN FOR IT. BUT IT STINKS. IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. WHO WANTS IT? WHY DO THEY WANT IT? WHOSE POCKETBOOKS IS GETTING FILLED UP? WHOSE ISN'T? I DON'T KNOW. BUT TO FIX THE WINDOW ON THE CAR, INSTEAD OF GOING AND BUYING A MERCEDES, WE NEED TO FIX IT FOR EVERYBODY. AND THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT A NEW CAR. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT THE NEW CAR. NOW, YOU HAVE SOME WHO DID. SOME WHO DIDN'T BUY FLOOD INSURANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE ON A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA. I LIVE ON A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA AND I HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE SINCE THE DAY I BOUGHT MY HOUSE. I WOULD NEVER LIVE HERE WITHOUT FLOOD INSURANCE. BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON ONE PROJECT THAT NOBODY CAN DEFINITIVELY SHOW IS A PERFECT PROJECT THAT WOULD FIX ANYTHING. LET'S SPREAD THE LOVE AND SPREAD THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY AND FIX THE SMALL POCKETS WHERE IT COULD BE FIXED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND NAMED THREE STREETS IN MY COMMUNITY A MONTH OR SO AGO. I SAW ON NEXT DOOR THIS MORNING THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAS PUT IN FOR THOSE STORMWATER DRAINS DOWN THERE TO BE CLEANED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DONE YET. SO LET'S LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF LET'S SPEND ALL OUR MONEY, PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET OR SPREAD IT OUT AND HELP EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ONE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME. >> STEVE MICHELINI. AGAIN, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS NEED TO BE DIVIDED UP INTO ACHIEVABLE POCKETS. A MASSIVE PROJECT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. ALL IT DOES IS TRANSFER IT TO A BIGGER PROJECT THAT PROBABLY WILL NOT SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE STORMWATER FLOODING. I AGREE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR. THE ISSUE IS FIX THE AREAS THAT FLOOD AND DESIGN PROJECTS THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THOSE AREAS. YOU DON'T NEED A MASSIVE PROJECT, AS SHE POINTED OUT, THAT'S NOT JUST THE HOMEOWNERS, IT'S ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AND ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED INDUSTRIES THAT CANNOT SUSTAIN A MASSIVE PROJECT. THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE. SO IF IT MEANS PUTTING IN SMALLER PROJECTS WITH THE PUMPS AND REDUNDANT BACKUP SYSTEMS, THEN HAVE IT. BUT, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE RESEARCH HAS ALREADY SHOWN THEY HAVE PUMPS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INSPECTED OR MAINTAINED FOR 14 YEARS, I HAVE SUMP PUMPS IN MY YARD. I'M NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM EVERY SIX MONTHS. I HAVE TO CALL FOR MAINTENANCE. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT, WELL, THEN, GET PEOPLE UNDER CONTRACT. I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT GET A PERMANENT CONTRACT. YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM STORMWATER THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ENGAGE IN A SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE BACKUP GENERATORS, THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED WHEN THERE IS A STORM. WELL, I HOPE THAT IS AN IRONCLAD CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH OTHER AREAS THAT ALSO NEED GENERATORS OR PUMPS. THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. AGAIN, MAINTENANCE FIRST, CONSTRUCTION SECOND. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 49? MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I MOVE IT, I WANT TO PUT ON RECORD THAT I HAVE NEVER AGREED MORE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR THAN AT 11:16 A.M., AUGUST 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU NEED JESUS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE RESOLUTION. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE AS WELL. WE NEED TO STOP THAT BOONDOGGLE PROJECT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION PUSHED OUT BY THE ADMINISTRATION JUSTIFYING THE STUPID PROJECT. IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES. AND THE NASTINESS AND DIRTY POLITICS PUSHED BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND A FEW OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS JUST DISGUSTING. PROPER MAINTENANCE WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROPER MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD WILL SOLVE IT. WE STILL NEED TO GET IN THERE AND FIX THOSE DRAINS AND OTHER PROBLEMS. I WENT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THE DAY AFTER THE HURRICANES WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. WHEN THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE WENT, IN SUDDENLY ALL KINDS OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO STOP PEOPLE'S HOUSES FROM FLOODING AND NOT WASTE MONEY ON A STUPID PROJECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M HERE NOT TO DEFEND MYSELF BUT TO SAY THIS ADMINISTRATION OR NO OTHER ADMINISTRATION THAT I'VE EVER WORKED WITH HAS EVER TOLD ME WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH MY VOTE. BECAUSE IF THEY DID, I WOULD TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL, PERIOD. LET ME CLEAR THAT UP FOR ME. I TAKE NONE AND I GIVE LESS. I'M VOTING FOR IT BECAUSE THE PROJECT AS I SAW IT DESIGNED, ALLEVIATES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN MOST OF THIS AREA. IS IT GOING TO BE ALL OF IT? THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ALL OF ANYTHING REGARDING STORMWATER. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THE BAY THAT WE HAVE NEXT TO US, AND THE SEA LEVEL THAT WE'RE AT, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE AMOUNT OF HEAT TAKEN THIS YEAR, ABOUT 3% HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, THE BAY, THE WATER IS. WHAT AM I TO EXPECT? A COUPLE OF DROPS? OR FULL-BLOWN HURRICANE? WE'RE LUCKY THAT THAT HURRICANE, BOTH THAT HIT LAST TIME DID NOT HIT US DIRECT BECAUSE THE WATER WENT OUT INSTEAD OF COMING IN. IF IT WAS TO COME IN, YOU AND I WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING HERE TODAY. WE WOULD ALL BE FLOODED. THE LIFE IS WHAT IT IS. WHERE I LIVE IS WHAT IT IS. I'M TRYING TO FIX IT AS BEST I CAN. SOMETIMES NOTHING IS HUNDRED PERCENT PROOF. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY, I'M VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS FOR RENEWAL OF THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN. THIS MONEY, WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR THAT PROJECT OR AGAINST IT. WHEN THAT COMES UP, I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. TODAY WE ARE JUST VOTING FOR THE MONEY SO THEY CAN FIND SOLUTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. I NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MR. MICHELINI. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MICHELINI. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE. AT 1:30 -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE A 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE AGENDA STATES WILL NOT BE HEARD. IT IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW. IS THAT YOUR REQUEST? >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, IT IS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30. WE CAN REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL FROM STEVE MICHELINI FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 20 IS THE FIRST STAFF REPORT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR TODAY. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD THIS OFF? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. THANK YOU. ITEM 20, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE'S FLEET AND SUPPLY, THE LAND WE WANT TO BUY ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE. I ASKED AT THAT TIME WHAT ELSE DID YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL MONDAY, I HADN'T READ IT YET. I FOUND IT. MS. SCHARF, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT. THE OTHER THING IS THE LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES AND TRAILERS IN THE LOWRY PARK FUELING ASSETS. WE FOUND WHAT IT IS THEY ALSO WANT TO PUT THERE. PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE HEARD THAT CHIEF TRIPP ASKED FOR TEN ACRES. THIS NEW PLOT IS ONLY 6.4 ACRES. IF IT DOES FIT -- THIS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE APPROVING, ITEM NUMBER 20, IS SIMPLY APPROVING $140,000, I BELIEVE, CONTRACT TO JUST -- $141,825 CONTRACT TO SEE IF THIS IS PLAUSIBLE. BUT WHAT THEY DID, THE RFQ ONLY TALKED ABOUT FIRE RESCUE. ONLY TALKED ABOUT FLEET AND SUPPLY. THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO OnBase THIS WEEK INCLUDES THIS. LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES AND TRAILERS. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS THE EXTRA PIECE OF LAND EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD WHERE CURRENTLY WE HAVE THESE VEHICLES, AND IT IS SLATED FOR WHERE -- ZOO TAMPA WANTS TO EXPAND. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH LOOKING FOR LAND TO MOVE THESE VEHICLES, BUT I DO NOT WANT US AS COUNCIL TO BE STUCK IN ANOTHER HANNA AVENUE, ANOTHER HOWARD AVENUE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF, OH, WELL, MAYBE THIS ONE ISN'T GOING TO BE RIGHT FOR FIRE RESCUE, BUT THIS WILL BE PERFECT FOR THIS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE LAND EITHER WAY. WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS SAYING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT THIS FOR LOWRY PARK FUELING AND STAFFING VEHICLES AND TRAILERS. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE THIS LINE OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR LAWYER THAT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD WORK BEHIND THE SCENES AND GET THIS REMOVED FROM THIS. I AM NOT AT ALL SAYING -- LET ME FINISH -- I AM NOT AT ALL SAYING THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US MOVING THIS. IN FACT, WHEN I TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT IT, I GAVE HIM A LOCATION THAT HE COULD LOOK FOR TO PUT THESE TRAILERS AND VEHICLES ON. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK WE SHOULD GET THIS STUFF OFF OF SOMETHING THAT LEADS INTO THE RIVER. IT'S CRITICAL. BUT IT IS NOT WHAT WE ASKED FOR. IT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. ADDITIONALLY, THIS MORNING, WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS UNION THAT CLEARLY STATES, THIS WAS SENT AT 9:16 THIS MORNING. THIS LAND NEEDS TO REMAIN 100% FOR FIRE AND FIRE ONLY. I URGE YOU TO PROTECT THIS INTENT AND REJECT ANY EFFORT TO DILUTE ITS PURPOSE. WE OWE IT TO TAMPA FIRE TO FOCUS ONLY ON THIS. AGAIN, THIS IS A SIX-MONTH STUDY. MS. FEELEY CAME UP TO US AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE ON THIS PROPERTY IN A MONTH. I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE FOCUSED ON FIRE RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE AGREE TO THIS, MY FEAR IS THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE AND HAVE THIS PROPERTY ONLY POSSIBLY FOR THE LOWRY PARK AND WE WILL BE STUCK AT GROUND ZERO AND HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN FOR LAND FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY. THIS IS MY CONCERN. THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION TALKS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. WHEN I ASKED ON MONDAY WHAT ELSE COULD BE PUT ON IT, WE WERE NOT TOLD THIS. I HAD TO FIND IT AND READ IT IN DOCUMENTATION. THAT TO ME IS NOT TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT IS NOT -- THIS COUNCIL'S STATED GOAL OF FOCUSING ON FIRE AND FINDING A PLACE FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOWRY PARK NEEDS LAND. I GET IT. AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. WE CAN KEEP LOOKING. WE CAN BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS PIECE OF LAND. I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO THE FIRE, FIRE ADMINISTRATION, FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE COUNTING ON US TO FIND THEM A PLACE FOR FLEET AND SUPPLIES SO WE CAN FIX THEIR STATIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOME OF THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME. BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS. I WANT TO RESTATE WHAT THIS LANGUAGE SAYS. IT SAYS THAT THE SITE ANALYSIS AND SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS. IT'S NOT SAYING -- MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE CLARIFICATION -- IT'S JUST AN ANALYSIS AND SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND EVALUATING THIS. THEY ARE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WITHOUT SOME OF THAT IN THERE, IT WON'T HAPPEN. MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE GO ON. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO LEAVE IN TWO MINUTES. I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS TO SUPPORT IT. JUST WHENEVER CHIEF, IF I MAY. >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT TO 15 SECONDS. THIS IS 100% ON ME. WHEN THAT PROPERTY CAME AVAILABLE FOR EVALUATION FOR FIRE FLEET AND WAREHOUSING, I ASKED THE TEAM THROUGH CAD, I SAID JUST LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY AS YOU GO THROUGH TO SEE IF WE COULD GET OFF THAT PROPERTY. THEN I WENT BACK INTO A SECONDARY MEETING AND I MADE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT KNEW THAT, NUMBER ONE WAS FIRE FLEET AND THE WAREHOUSE. AND ONLY IF, WITH A TEAR LINE, IF LOWRY PARK CAN'T GO THERE, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT. NO IDEA HOW MANY ACRES IT WAS. IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE FEASIBILITY REQUEST THAT WORKED ITS WAY INTO THE SCOPE. BUT 1,000% -- I SAY THIS IN FRONT OF THE FIRE CHIEF, IN FRONT OF CAD, IN FRONT OF LAM -- THAT IS ONLY FOR FIRE FLEET AND FIRE WAREHOUSING AS A PRIMARY FOCUS. FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE ROOM, INCLUDING SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THIS, LET US KNOW. AND THAT'S AS FAR AS IT WENT. HOW IT GOT FORMALIZED FROM THERE IS THE PROJECT SIDE OF THE EQUATION. I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE COMMON THEME OF THE HIGHEST BEST USE OF PROPERTY FOR LOWRY. AND WE CAN LOOK FOR OTHER THINGS IF IT DOESN'T FIT. BUT IT WAS A GENUINE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE WITH LESS. THAT'S ALL. >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK? >>JOHN BENNETT: ONLY IF IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, OF COURSE, I WOULD. BECAUSE THE PRIORITY IS FIRE AND FIRE WAREHOUSING. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THROUGH VALUE ENGINEERING -- I MEAN, I LOOK AT THE CITY AS A TEAM SPORT TRYING TO MAKE SURE LAND USE IS AVAILABLE FOR ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE, BUT I'M NOT THE END STATE. I'M NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. ALL I ASKED FOR IS FEASIBILITY. IF I TAKE IT OUT OR WE ASK TO TAKE IT OUT, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET TAKEN OUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK. IT WAS REALLY, BEFORE THEY HAD A PROJECT MANAGER, IT WAS CAD THAT I ASKED TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY. IF THEY CAME BACK AND SAID NO, EVEN IN THE PRELIMINARY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER. ALWAYS WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS SEE IF THERE WAS ENOUGH ROOM TO FREE UP THAT PROPERTY. IF NOT, THEN WE WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. WE KNEW LOWRY PARK FOR HISTORY WAS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE LAND FOR WHATEVER WE END UP DOING WITH IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I DON'T DISAGREE. THE POINT IS, I ASKED ABOUT THIS MONDAY AND NO ONE WOULD GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER. >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HIDDEN AGENDA HERE. IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM DAY ONE INTERNALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE RIGHT NOW TELLING YOU, THIS WAS ON ME. I ASKED FOR IT FROM DAY ONE TO BE STUDIED AS A FEASIBILITY ONLY. BUT THE PRIORITY WAS, HOPEFULLY THE CHIEF WOULD COME UP BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO HER FACE TO FACE ABOUT NUMBER ONE FIRE FLEET. NUMBER TWO, WAREHOUSING. ONLY IF THERE IS ROOM WE'LL CONSIDER MOVING THE FUNCTIONS. STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT -- BUT ALSO A GOOD EXERCISE, EVEN WITHOUT THIS PROPERTY, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND SEE IF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, TO YOUR POINT OF THERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'RE ALL ABOUT IT, BUT THE FOCUS AND THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE LOWRY PROPERTY PARK. >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE. I GOT TO GO TO TURKEY CREEK MIDDLE SCHOOL I THINK IT IN PLANT CITY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS THING. REALLY FAST, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU ON THIS. A COUPLE OF THINGS REALLY FAST WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY OF THIS, THIS CAME ABOUT AFTER 2023. SOME OF THESE ISSUES WERE IN THE BUDGET. COULDN'T GET THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR IT. THEN WE MOVED TO BOND FOR IT. IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BONDING FOR LOWRY PARK -- AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST LOWRY PARK, THEY ARE WONDERFUL. I GREW UP GOING THERE, TOOK MY SON THERE. SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART. BUT SHOULDN'T BE BONDING FOR THAT AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF. AND THEN JUST AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY EXTRA CLOSE ATTENTION TO. OBVIOUSLY, CHIEF BENNETT AND EVERYBODY IS VERY, VERY HONEST, BUT HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE NOW WITH FIRE STATIONS, FIRE STATION 24, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE HUNDRED PERCENT. THIS PROVIDES THE KEY TO FREEING UP STATION 9. COUNCIL, I LITERALLY HAVE TO GO. IF THERE IS A VOTE ON THIS WHERE I'M NEEDED, I CAN BE BACK AT 1:30 OR WHATEVER. BUT I HAVE TO GO. MY APOLOGIES SINCERELY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHIEF BENNETT. >>JOHN BENNETT: TWO COMMITMENTS TO COUNCIL, NUMBER ONE, THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO BOND ANYTHING OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NUMBER TWO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MINUTE THIS IS NOT FEASIBLE, IT'S OVER. IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS REALLY A STRONG CURIOSITY TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND AN ADD THAT WASN'T TO DISPLACE. I WENT OUT TO STATION 9. I WALKED THROUGH THERE. WALKED THROUGH THE REHAB. I'M VERY GROUND ZERO KIND OF PERSON. ALL I DID WHEN THIS STARTED, SEE IF IT WILL WORK. THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF IT. IT BECAME A SCOPE. A PART OF THE PLOT PLAN IF YOU WILL. NO INTENTION TO BOND, AND IF IT DOESN'T -- IF IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE HANDLED WITHIN ITS COMPARTMENTALIZED PORTFOLIO, EITHER FINANCING, SPACE, WHATEVER ELSE, THEN IT COMES OFF. IT WAS JUST AN IDEA TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF OUR LAND. THAT'S IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'VE BEEN INVOLVED. THERE IS MISINFORMATION HERE. A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ZOO. THIS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC LAND, THE RECREATION LAND ALONG ■THE RIVER THAT IS LOWRY PARK, IN A NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AREA NOT SEEN ANY INVESTMENT, THAT SOME DECISIONS DECADES AND DECADES AGO DECIDED TO USE IT BASICALLY AS A DUMPING GROUND IN SOMEBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS WALKED THERE, THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL, NATURAL SPRING RIGHT THERE BY THIS THING. IT COULD BE A WONDERFUL CROWN JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA THIS PARK. AGAIN, IT'S IN ONE OF THESE NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT INVESTED IN. THERE IS COINCIDENTALLY, SOMETHING THE ZOO AS A PROPOSAL THAT POSSIBLY SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE, NOT MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS I KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY AS EXPANSION PROPERTY. BUT JUST TAKING INTO FACT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DUMP, AND REALLY HEAVY, HEAVY UTILIZATION IN A SPECTACULAR AREA OF TOWN ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, REFUELING VEHICLES AROUND HILLSBOROUGH RIVER. IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY JUST RIDICULOUS. WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS, IS ALL ABOUT FLEET AND FIRE MAINTENANCE. WHEN THEY PROCURED THE PROPERTY, ALL THEY HAVE IN THE LANGUAGE, I WANT TO RIGHT-SET THIS. THE LANGUAGE IS JUST ABOUT AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT COMMITTING TO BUILD ANYTHING. IT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE SCOPE AND SCALE. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK. FLEET AND FIRE MAINTENANCE IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE. WHEN THEY DO THE ANALYSIS, IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS, IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T. WE'LL LOOK ELSE WHERE TO TAKE THIS STUFF OFF OF LOWRY PARK. THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT? SHAME ON THE CITY IF WE DIDN'T KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE BLINDERS ON LOOKING AT SOMETHING. IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE A SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THE SCOPE AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY EXPAND IT IF YOU NEED TO. IF YOU NARROW IT OUT THE GATE, THERE'S NO GOING BACK. SO THIS IS JUST KEEPING YOUR OPTION OPEN. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THE ISSUE IS TRANSPARENCY. EVEN THOUGH THE MAYOR HAS TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, IT IS A COVER FOR THE FACT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NEVER BEEN TRANSPARENT. THAT'S WHY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST THEM AND BLAY US TO A CERTAIN -- BLAME US TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. NUMBER 20, ABOUT NEW FIRE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ZOO OR MOVING ANYTHING ELSE AROUND. SO THE PUBLIC LOOKING AT THIS WOULD HAVE NO IDEA THAT'S WHAT IT IS. WE KNOW THAT ALL THE TIME. OTHER DAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET. I ASKED THE CFO AND OTHER FOLKS BASIC QUESTIONS, HOW MUCH IS OUR TOTAL DEBT, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T SEARCHED THAT, WE FOUND OUT THEY DIDN'T -- OR THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO TELL US. THIS IS NOT HOW WE BUILD TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC. WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE I THINK TWO OR THREE SPRING HEADS IN THAT AREA. I'VE TAKEN A WALK THROUGH THERE. THE RIVER IS HEAVILY POLLUTED. WE NEED TO FIX THAT. THE ZOO OR THE CITY, SOMEBODY CAN WORK TO BETTER CLEAR THOSE SPRING HEADS SO THAT WE CAN ADD MORE FRESHWATER THERE. BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO TEACH THE ADMINISTRATION A LESSON ABOUT HOW THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR US. I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO. BY THE WAY, ONLY FIVE OF US HERE. IF TWO OF US VOTE NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES ANYWAY, SO WE CAN GO QUICKLY. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, I OBJECT STRONGLY TO THIS CONCEPT OF HIGHEST AND BEST USE. GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT SERVES THE PUBLIC, WE'RE NOT A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY. THIS IS THE EXCUSE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY USES TO TRY TO GET RID OF THE CRUISE INDUSTRY OR THE PORT INDUSTRY. IF YOU USE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PEOPLE USE, THEN YOU WOULD CONVERT ALL OUR PARKS TO CONDOS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FEW PEOPLE WANT TO DO. THEY WANT INSIDE DEALS SO THEY CAN CONVERT EVERYTHING TO CONDOS. OUR ECONOMY IS MULTIFACETED. IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON CONDOS. CONDOS ARE IMPORTANT BUT ONE PART. HOW BEST DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC? SURE, CONDOS WILL GENERATE MORE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT WOULD WE RATHER HAVE CURTIS HIXON PARK OR RATHER HAVE CONDOS THERE? WE CAN GET MORE MONEY. HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS PUTTING CONDOS IN CURTIS HIXON PARK. HOW TO BEST SERVE THE PUBLIC IS KEEP IT AS A PARK. WE SHOULD NEVER SAY HIGHEST AND BEST USE AGAIN. THAT IS A TERM TO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST. I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO AND HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME BACK. THEY NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THIS, NOT JUST THIS, THEY HIDE INFORMATION FROM US ALL THE TIME. MANY THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND OTHER BOONDOGGLE PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC IS DOING PUBLIC RECORDS AND THEY FIND ALL THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, THE INSIDER DEALING, DIRTY POLITICS, STAFF TEXTING AND E-MAILING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RILING THEM UP AGAINST US. IT IS HORRIBLE THE THINGS GOING ON. WE NEED TO SAY NO AND WE NEED TO BRING GOOD GOVERNMENT BACK TO THE CITY FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS CORRECT. THAT AREA THERE IS BEING USED FOR REFUELING AND DUMPING AND PICKING UP FROM ONE OR TWO CITY DIVISIONS FOR AT LEAST 60 YEARS. AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT THAT LOCATION. IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE CLEANED UP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING. BUT I'M JUST THERE TO LISTEN. IF I THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY IN THIS CITY HAD DONE ALL THE VIOLATIONS I JUST HEARD, I WOULD ASK FOR COMPLETE INVESTIGATION BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT, FDLE OR ANY OTHER OUTSIDE SOURCE BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE CASE, BRING THEM ALL IN. LET'S INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING. BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO BE HEARD, TALKED ABOUT, NOT THAT IT'S ME, I DON'T LIKE ANY INNUENDOS AGAINST MY GOVERNMENT. IF ALL THAT IS TRUE, I'M ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION. IF THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT, THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO PROVE IT. I WANT A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF WHAT I JUST HEARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. IN SUPPORTING THIS, IT KEEPS OUR OPTIONS OPEN AND DOESN'T BIND OUR HANDS. FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. I KNOW THAT PROPERTY VERY WELL ON THE EAST SIDE OF BOULEVARD. IT IS A DUMP AND IS GOING TO NEED MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT USED TO BE FERRY LAND. NOW IT'S A PARKING LOT. LIKE AN EMPLOYEE ENTRANCE FOR THE ZOO. IT USED TO BE A NICE AREA. NOW IT IS UNDERUTILIZED. AND THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE RESCUE HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND WHATNOT. THIS HAS COME UP. ACCESS TO THE RIVER, ACCESS TO THE PARK, ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY. WE KEEP OUR OPTION OPEN. IF IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. COLINA CAME ONLINE -- NO. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID GET AN E-MAIL FROM MS. COLINA. AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 6.4-ACRE SITE. I BELIEVE, CHIEF BENNETT, YOU TOLD ME 1.5 ACRES IS UNUSABLE BECAUSE OF STORMWATER? >>JOHN BENNETT: I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER. I KNOW THE PLOT PLAN INVOLVES THE INITIAL FEEDBACK I GOT FROM CAD WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAY OF THE LAND, THE PARKING AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. NO NO NO. BUT YOU SAID THERE WAS A PORTION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR STORMWATER. >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE TALKING A 6.4-ACRE PIECE OF LAND WHICH IS SMALLER. SHE ASKED FOR 10. THEN THESE ARE THE LOWRY PARK ASSETS. OFFICE TRAILER, LAWN MOWER CANOPY, DALE SHOP, DALE OPEN CAGES. ALL OF THIS STUFF, WE HAVE 12, 15, -- 33, 34, 35, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43 -- 44 VEHICLES. IN ADDITION. SO WHAT I'M SAYING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT FIRE. AND THEN YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT IT FOR 44 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES PLUS BUILDINGS. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS ISN'T SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT'S THERE BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR FIRE, BUT IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH JUST FOR THIS. THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT. WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ENOUGH FOR FIRE. WE NEED TO MOVE ON FIRE. YES, DO WE WANT TO TAKE STUFF OFF THE LOWRY PARK RIVER? ABSOLUTELY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY GOAL HERE. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO GET FLEET AND SUPPLY MOVED. SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD THIS IN AND, OH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING, BUT IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING, WE'RE GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR WITHOUT HAVING STARTED FLEET AND SUPPLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. COLINA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. IF I COULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TAKE YOU A LITTLE DOWN MEMORY LANE HOW WE GOT HERE. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT ISSUED AN RFQ. THE RFQ WAS TITLED, RELATED ASSOCIATED AND SUBSEQUENT WORK FOR THE NEW FIRE SUPPORT SERVICE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE, MS. COLINA? WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU? >> I'M SO SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, MUCH BETTER. >> SO SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START FROM THE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE GOOD. >> AND INCLUDING FLEET MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, SUPPLY AND ASSOCIATED FACILITY ASSESSMENT. SUBMISSIONS WERE DUE FOR THAT RFQ ON OCTOBER 31 OF '24. IT WENT THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS. THREE FIRMS PRESENTED ON DECEMBER 20 OF '24. WILDER AND ASSOCIATES WAS SELECTED. THEY WERE THE ONE SELECTED DURING THAT. THE AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SIMPLY ALLOWING THEM, THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, TO DO THE PROGRAMMING FOR BUILDING AND SITE AND SEEING WHAT THE REQUIRED SPACE IS FOR FLEET THAT SERVICES FIRE AND SUPPLY. I WILL ALSO SAY AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I'VE HEARD YOU SAY A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE FIRE CHIEF ASKED FOR TEN ACRES. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT IS NOT HER AREA OF EXPERTISE. WILDER AND ASSOCIATES HAS A DEMONSTRATED TRACK RECORD. THEY DID A SIMILAR FACILITY. THEY DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED A SIMILAR FACILITY IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY. WE ARE NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. SO WE ARE LEANING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO TELL US WHAT WE TRULY NEED TO SERVICE OUR FLEET BASED ON THE NUMBER OF THEIR VEHICLES TO PROVIDE AMPLE STORAGE FOR THEM BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE. SO WE ARE LEANING TO THE EXPERTS OR ON THE EXPERTS, RATHER, TO LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO ON THE SITE. AS CHIEF BENNETT MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, MASTER PLAN, DO YOUR HOMEWORK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED. AS I MENTIONED MONDAY, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU'LL HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS ON-SITE. BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER, THE FLEET MAINTENANCE TEAM, LOGISTICS AND ASSETS MANAGEMENT. THAT IS MY DEPARTMENT SERVICE FIRE. WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE WITH FIRE. FIRE CURRENTLY SHARES SPACE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SUPPLY AND AT THE FLEET SITE, WE SHARE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE CITY DOES THAT CITYWIDE. OLD CITY HALL -- I CAN GO ON AND ON. BIG BLUE, T & I WAS LOCATED THERE. WE TRY TO OPTIMIZE SPACE WHERE POSSIBLE. HONESTLY, THIS IS NOT A DECISION THE ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING. WE'LL LEAN TO OUR EXPERTS. ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THIS RFQ THAT WENT THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS, GETTING THE AGREEMENT -- WILDER AND ASSOCIATES IN LINE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. COLINA. MR. BENNETT, ANYTHING TO ADD? >> JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. ADDRESS A FEW THINGS. ONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY WHAT HIGHEST AND BEST USE. THAT PARK AND LAY DOWN EQUIPMENT, LOGISTICS AND FUEL IS AT RISK NEAR THE RIVER REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT ENDS UP. WHEN YOU HAVE 30,000 GALLONS OF FUEL THERE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN HIT YET. IF THAT RIVERCRESTS, IT BECOMES A LOGISTICAL PROBLEM. IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR, IT IS THE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE AT RISK. THAT IS MY VERSION OF HIGHEST BEST USE IS FOR SERVICE. I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT NOR DO I PLAN ON BEING ONE. THAT'S PART OF IT. THE SECOND PART OF IT IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE FOCUS IS FIRE FLEET AND WAREHOUSING. IF 100% OF WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY GOES TO THAT, I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY MATTERED. THAT'S HOW IT GOT STARTED. THAT'S HOW THE ASSESSMENT AND -- THIS WAS SIMPLY A FEASIBILITY QUESTION. WHEREVER THAT TEAR LINE HAPPENS, WHETHER BEFORE, DURING, AFTER, WE WILL FIGURE OUT LOWRY PARK. THAT IS NOT THE FOCUS. I SAID IT IN THE INTERNAL MEETINGS, I'M SAYING IT TO THE PUBLIC, IT WAS JUST AN ANCILLARY REQUEST TO SEE, BECAUSE WE DON'T OFTEN COME ACROSS ACREAGE IN THE CITY. SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE TWO PRIORITIES HAPPEN. THAT'S IT. I'M DONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE HE ASKED. SO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM 20 UNTIL AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA RETURNS AFTER LUNCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 20 UNTIL AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK FROM LUNCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE TAMPA PD IS HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A PRETTY QUICK ONE OVERALL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT WHEN WE BRING IT BACK UP? COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WILDER ARCHITECTS IS THE COMPANY. IT IS A GREAT FIRM. MS. COLINA WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR EXPERTISE. GREAT FIRM. LARRY WILDER WAS A FANTASTIC PERSON. NOTHING I QUESTION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WILDER OR THEIR REPUTATION. GREAT FIRM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 52. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE CAN DO 52. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 52. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO JUST KICK THIS OFF BY SAYING THAT WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON MONDAY ABOUT FUNDING FOR THIS. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS ASKS FOR. THIS MOTION IS JUST A PROGRESS REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE, THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN IT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THIS OR THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS STAFF REPORT. I JUST WANTED TO SET THE TABLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING. START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER ALSO FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LEGAL ADVISOR MICHAEL SCHMIDT, SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE PROJECT. CURRENT APPROVED CAPITAL BUDGET IS $41,296,000. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. WHAT HAVE WE SPENT ON THE PROJECT SO FAR? $6.2 MILLION. THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AT 5005 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE. THE DESIGN PLANS AND CREATION OF THE PROJECT, PERMITTING, THE TREE STUDY, THE POND STUDY, ENGINEERING, AND THE PROJECT MANAGER, WHICH WE ARE ALSO USING WILDER ARCHITECTURE TO HELP US. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A DISPLAY OF OUR PARKING SPACES. THERE WAS A QUESTION ON WHAT WILL THE PARKING SPACES BE AT THE NEW FACILITY. I'LL PUT THAT ON THE ELMO FOR YOU. CURRENTLY, THE PARKING WILL BE FOR 84 VEHICLES, WHICH INCLUDES EMPLOYEE PARKING, LARGE HIGH VEHICLE STORAGE, AND CHARGING STATIONS FOR EVs AND BICYCLE SPACES. THERE WILL BE 30 ADDITIONAL TANDEM SPACES FOR VEHICLE STORAGE, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COLOR ONE, WHICH MAY HELP A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN SO FAR. WHERE WE WILL HELP SAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH IS FOR THE TANDEM VEHICLES RIGHT THERE, THAT WILL BE GRAVEL. THAT WILL ACTUALLY NOT BE PAVED. THE EMPLOYEE PARKING, THE MAIN EMPLOYEE PARKING WILL BE HERE, AND THERE WILL BE EMPLOYEE PARKING HERE, BUT THESE ARE OVERFLOW OF VEHICLES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT EMPLOYEES DON'T NORMALLY DRIVE, LIKE OUR COMMAND POSTS, THE HIGH WATER VEHICLES, THOSE VEHICLES WILL GO THERE. WE ALSO HAVE EV CHARGERS AND WE WILL ACCOMMODATE ADA PARKING. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL PARK IN THIS AREA HERE. THAT WAS FOR THE PARKING. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSUMPTION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS 47,594 SQUARE FOOT. THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THIS IS THE POND AND ALL OF THE PARKING, AND THIS IS THE OVERALL BUILDING THERE. UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THIS IS CURRENTLY A DESIGN-BUILD BID, WHICH IS UNIQUE. WE WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT COSTS UNTIL THE BID IS ACCEPTED. THE ESTIMATED COSTS STILL REMAIN AROUND THE $40 MILLION IS WHERE WE ARE AT. BEFORE I GO FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE MAJOR MESSMER TO TALK ABOUT A LIST OF POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE MOVING FOR TPD HEADQUARTERS AND THE TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT AT CROCKETT'S. >> MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. I INITIALLY TOOK LEAD ON THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2021 WHEN I WAS IN A PREVIOUS ASSIGNMENT WHEN I LEARNED THAT WE WERE BEING MOVED OUT OF OUR EXISTING IMPOUND LOT DUE TO SOLID WASTE RELOCATION WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT. THERE WAS A LIST OF POSITIONS REQUESTED OF WHO IS GOING TO BE MOVING FROM HEADQUARTERS AND THE IMPOUND LOT OVER TO THIS NEW FACILITY. THERE WILL BE ABOUT 51 EMPLOYEES. THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR NATIONAL INTEGRATED BALLISTICS NETWORK TECHNICIANS FINGERPRINT TECHNICIANS, FORENSIC PERSONNEL AND ALL OF OUR EVIDENCE AND IMPOUND LOT PERSONNEL. AND WE HAVE ALWAYS STAFFED TWO FACILITIES FOR EVIDENCE. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT. PREVIOUSLY WE STAFFED THE 34th STREET IMPOUND LOT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID BACK IN 2021 WAS CONDUCT A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO WE STAFF BETWEEN 8 AND 9 POSITIONS AT THE SECONDARY LOCATION. BY CENTRALIZING THIS TO ONE LOCATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THROUGH ATTRITION OR RECLASSIFIED POSITIONS, MOVE THEM INTO OTHER POSITIONS WHERE WE HAVE VACANCIES, EIGHT POSITIONS. SO IF WE ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE A 40-YEAR LIFETIME OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE CONSIDERING THE AGE OF OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING, THE AGE OF THE TRAINING FACILITY THAT'S UNDERGOING SOME CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE DOWN TO 34th STREET, THAT SAVINGS OVER THAT 40-YEAR PERIOD IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 42, $43 MILLION WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ABOUT A 4% INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COSTS AND BENEFITS ANNUALLY IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE EIGHT POSITIONS. POTENTIALLY, IT WILL BE A COST NEUTRAL PROJECT AT THE END OF THE LIFE OF THE STRUCTURE. >> ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE AGAIN. I HAVE DISCUSSED WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PERMITTING PROGRESS WITH ABBYE FEELEY. AND SHE ASSURES ME, WE REVIEWED ALL THE PERMITS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, THAT THE FINAL PERMIT SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE END OF AUGUST, AT WHICH TIME WE CAN PUT THE PROJECT OUT TO BID. ONCE WE ACCEPT A BID AND WE'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND, IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 16 MONTHS FOR COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ASSISTANT CHIEF KATE. I LIKE SAYING THAT, BECAUSE YOU DO A GREAT JOB. THIS IS A MAJOR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC PROJECT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INVESTMENT IN WEST TAMPA, WELLS WOOD BECAUSE IT IS IN AN UNDERUTILIZED AREA. THAT LITTLE CORRIDOR. BUT IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S NEEDED. I UNDERSTAND, I'VE TOURED WHAT IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET ON THE 7th FLOOR. FOR A CITY LIKE TAMPA, IT'S OUTDATED. MY CONCERN IS HOW WE FUND IT. AND YOU MENTIONED IT IS AROUND THE 40 MILLION.YOU MENTIONED AROUND THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS. THE THING IS, WHEN YOU BOND SOMETHING, WHAT YOU PAY IN INTEREST, IT DEFEATS THAT ENTIRE PURPOSE. I HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH OUR CFO, MR. ROGERO, TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE NOT BOND THIS. LOOKING AT THE CIT, LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING IN THE RENEWAL, JUST TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER FUNDING, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. I WANT TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE HANNA BUILDING, SOME DEPARTMENTS WERE MOVING IN AND SAYING WE'RE NOT PAYING RENT IN THESE OTHER PLACES, BUT THE COST OF THAT FACILITY PLUS WHAT WAS BONDED AND THE INTEREST IT DEFEATED THAT ARGUMENT. OH, PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN RENT, BUT HOW MUCH PAYING THE BANKS IN THE LIFETIME OF THE FINANCING. MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A VOTE, THIS IS A STATUS UPDATE, MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE AND THE SCRUTINY I'LL PUT IS HOW CAN WE SAVE MONEY AND BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE IN GETTING THIS DONE? I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE. I KNOW WITH THE CIT THERE ARE RENEWALS FOR THE POLICE -- THE NEW POLICE CARS COMING IN. THE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, IF -- WITH WHAT IS DONE WITH THE CIT MONEY AND IF WE LOOK AT FUNDING THIS WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE GET, WILL THAT AFFECT HOW WE REPLACE THE NEW POLICE CARS? I KNOW THE VEHICLES THAT THE POLICE HAVE, THEY HAVE A LIFE SPAN. THOSE THINGS RUN ALL DAY. THEY ARE NOT REGULAR CARS. THEY ARE RACING AND HIGH MILEAGE AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF. MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION WHEN THIS DOES COME FROM A VOTE, WHEN IT DOES COME UP FOR A VOTE, I WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN UTILIZE CIT, WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. AT THE LAST RESORT, IF WE HAVE TO BOND, TO BOND THE LEAST -- I WANT TO AVOID BONDING ALTOGETHER. I ASKED A QUESTION OR MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION WITH THE ORIGINAL CIT POST 1996, '97, HOW THE POLICE SUBSTATIONS LIKE ON TAMPA BAY AND OTHER -- HOW THEY WERE FUNDED. I'LL CALL MAYOR GRECO AND ASK HIM. I THINK THEY WERE PAID WITH CIT MONEY. CIT IS A BLESSING. I KNOW IT IS A 15-YEAR RENEWAL. BUT IF WE CAN DO THE MOST GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE AND WE CAN PAY FOR THIS, THE CHIEF MENTIONED A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS, $400 MILLION. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION. IT'S AN OLD BUILDING BUT I'D RATHER RENOVATE BIG BLUE BECAUSE IT IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WITH OUR ARTS COUNCIL, BUT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD, AGAIN, I WANT TO AVOID BONDING AND TRY TO FUND IT WITH GENERAL REVENUE, WITH CIT, WITH ANYTHING -- THE LAST RESORT IS GIVING MONEY TO THE BANKS BECAUSE IT DEFEATS THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS WHEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAY IT IN INTEREST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION AND FOR CHATTING WITH ME AHEAD OF TIME. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE UPDATE, THE INFORMATION, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE LAST REMARK. REMEMBER, WE ARE A GROWING CITY. AND WE WERE JUST RECENTLY RANKED THE SIXTH SAFEST OF OUR SIZE ACROSS THE NATION. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS DO. WHEN WE THINK OUR EVIDENCE AND PROPERTY ROOM, WE NEED TO CONSIDER POST CONVICTION RELIEF. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE DEFENDANTS HAVE THIS EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO THEM UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THEIR SENTENCE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH THE VOLUME. AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY NOT TO HAVE ONE CASE LOST. SO VERY IMPORTANT. ONCE WE MOVE EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS, THAT IS THE BULK OF WHAT IS AT HEADQUARTERS. THE REST OF US CAN PROBABLY HOTEL ANYWHERE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DETECTIVES AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, THE COST OF BUILDING A POLICE HEADQUARTERS GOES DOWN TREMENDOUSLY. AND WE WOULD NOT REBUILD THIS PART. THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE. IT HELPS WITH VENTILATION. WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTSIDE STORAGE LIKE WE USED TO HAVE AT WHAT WE FORMERLY USED AS THE IMPOUND LOT. WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE IMPOUND LOT BUSINESS. A LOT OF THE STATUTES HAVE CHANGED ON IMPOUNDING OF CARS. THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT IS NOT AS BIG. WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE TREE STUDY AND THE POND MITIGATION. WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN WELLS WOOD. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ALSO WHICH WOULD BE OUR NEIGHBORS. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND HOW IT'S GOING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A CEREMONIAL THING YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO CENTS TO THE CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU BUY TODAY AND SPEND TODAY. IT'S THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE ANOTHER 20 YEARS FROM NOW, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST. THAT'S NEVER BEEN SAID. NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED THAT. NO ONE SAYS WHAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO? A LOT OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED. YEAH, BONDING IS WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS TODAY, 4.5, 4.75, WHATEVER IT IS. YOU THINK THE INTEREST RATE WILL STAY THAT WAY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS? I DON'T THINK SO. >> NO, SIR, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T THINK. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T WANT 20 YEARS FROM NOW A GUILTY PERSON TO BE SET FREE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT THERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE. JUST ONE PERSON. ONE PERSON. I SAID THAT BEFORE. I'M NOT AFRAID TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. I MAY NOT LIKE IT PERSONALLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BUSINESS, GENERAL MOTORS AND EVERYBODY IS BIG BUSINESS, THEY ALSO HAVE A CREDIT LINE, WHEN THEY CAN MAKE A BARGAIN, THEY TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN BIG, BIG BUSINESS NEEDS IMMEDIATE CASH. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU ALL. ENJOY YOUR AFTERNOON. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, ADAM, THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING BECAUSE HE HAS TO GO BACK TO FSU, AS HIS FUTURE RUNNING MATE MENTIONED LAST WEEK. HE CAME THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER AS INTERN. MY AIDE HAD HEALTH ISSUES. HE STEPPED RIGHT IN AND BEEN WORKING AS A TEMP FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW AND HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK HIM AND WISH HIM WELL. STAY IN TOUCH. HE KNOWS THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS? WHAT ARE YOU STUDYING? AND WHAT YEAR ARE YOU? >> I'M GOING -- ADAM BIRDEN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO BE AN ACCOUNTING MAJOR. I'M GOING INTO MY SOPHOMORE YEAR. I AM ALSO DOING A MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. AS I STARTED WORKING HERE OVER THE SUMMER, I'VE GROWN VERY INVESTED IN POLITICS. I DO THINK THERE IS A FUTURE FOR ME, NOT NECESSARILY IN CITY WORK, BUT DEFINITELY GOVERNMENT RELATED. I AM ALSO VERY FINANCE INTERESTED. I DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH MONEY. SO THAT COMES INTO THE ACCOUNTING PART. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S LIKE THE OLD SAYING IT, GO TO SCHOOL, MAKE STRAIGHT-As, BECOME LAWYERS, BECOME JUDGES. THOSE THAT GO TO COLLEGE, MAKE A C IN LAW, THEY BECOME MILLIONAIRES. ACCOUNTING SAME WAY IN A WAY WITH NUMBERS. YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM AHEAD OF YOUR LIFE. JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO AND ENJOY. IT WILL BE HARD NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT, ONE PLAYER PLAY FOR YOU ONE YEAR, THEN HE'S GONE. IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, NOT A TEAM ANYMORE. IT'S WHO YOU CAN BUY TO PLAY FOR YOU ANYMORE. THAT'S HOW IT IS IN SPORTS. WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY, DO I LIKE IT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT SAYING GO ON TO SAY THOSE WHO FLUNK GO ON TO BE POLITICIANS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOSE WHO GET Cs BECOME CITY COUNCIL -- >>BILL CARLSON: CHARLIE, WHICH WERE YOU? >> D STUDENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO ASK. NOW I KNOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >> BASICALLY I GET As. >> HOW OLD ARE YOU? >> 20. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S GREAT. I WAS 20 THE OTHER DAY. I'M 41 NOW. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOUR EDUCATION AND TO LEARN ABOUT MONEY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF MINE FROM WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG, ONE IS IN FINANCE AND ONE IS NOT IN FINANCE. BUT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW MONEY WORKS, SAVING AND INVESTING FOR YOUR FUTURE BECAUSE TIME FLIES, NUMBER ONE. YOUR EDUCATION, YOUR FUTURE, RETIREMENT, FINANCES, I WANTED TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND THE GOAL WAS -- I EVEN APPLIED TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL -- GOAL TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. ALWAYS HAD MY SIGHTS ON CITY LOCAL BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED BY MAYOR GRECO, FORMER MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE MIRANDA, BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHO I KNEW GROWING UP. BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, BUILD THAT FOUNDATION, FOCUS ON YOURSELF BECAUSE IT WILL BE A BETTER FUTURE FOR YOU. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT FINANCE, TALKED ABOUT GOVERNMENT. THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES, AND NEVER BE SCARED. NEVER BE SCARED. DON'T HESITATE. BECAUSE WHAT IS IT, FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. EVEN IF YOU MAY FAIL, DON'T BE TOO SCARED THAT YOU DON'T TAKE THAT FIRST STEP. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE. THANK YOU. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ADVICE I'LL GIVE, FAILURE IS ONLY FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT GET UP AND RUN AND TRY AGAIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ADAM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING YOU BACK THERE. YOU ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. ALWAYS SO FRIENDLY. WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO MISS YOU. BEEN A LOT OF FUN. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN. >> HOPEFULLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE CARE. ENJOY YOUR LUNCH. >> THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR HAVING ME. THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY VALUABLE EXPERIENCE. I'VE LEARNED SO MANY, SO MANY GREAT THINGS FROM COUNTLESS E-MAILS AND SCHEDULING, IT'S TRULY BEEN ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM HIM ABOUT MOVIES. >>BILL CARLSON: BY THE WAY, HE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IT, SO YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW, HE LIVED IN SINGAPORE FOR FOUR YEARS. YOU CAN GET A SECOND OPINION. >> VERY WILD COINCIDENCE WE BOTH DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE IN RECESS. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]