>>> SPECIAL MEETING OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS 11:03 ON THE DOT AND I'M JOY HOLLINGSWORTH AND THE CHAIR OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE AND CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL TODAY? [ ROLL CALL ] >> EIGHT PRESENT. >> AWESOME. EIGHT PRESENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. WE'RE GOING TO NOW CONSIDER THE AGENDA. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING AND SEEING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. TODAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ONLY BE ACCEPTING WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT THIS EVENING AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:00 P.M. WHERE WE'LL CONDUCT A HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS WITH IN-PERSON AND REMOTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PLEASE REFER TO THE AGENDA TO GET RETAILS ABOUT DIFFERENT START TIMES FOR IN-PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE TODAY WE'RE STARTING AT 5:00 P.M. FOR IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FROM 5:00 TO 7:30. AND THEN WE WILL BE DOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN HYBRID CALLERS STARTING AT 7:30 WITH THE REST OF OUR IN-PERSON SPEAKERS AS WELL. WE ALSO WILL HAVE CHILD CARE SERVICES HERE FOR FOLKS THAT NEED IT AS WELL. AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ ITEM BUN INTO THE RECORD. >> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATION FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU. AND PRESENTERS DIRECTOR RICO QUIRINDONGO. MICHAEL FROM OFFICE OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, I ALSO WANT THE THANK MY COLLEAGUES COMING. I KNOW WE GOT A LITTLE SNOW TODAY AND IN SEATTLE AS WE LAUGH AT FOLKS IN SOMETIMES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHEN THEY GET RAIN AND SOMETIMES DON'T KNOW HOW THE DRIVE, I'M PRETTY SURE PEOPLE BACK EAST LAUGH AT US WHEN WE GET SNOW HERE IN SEATTLE. WITH THE COUPLE OF INCHES OF SNOW. BUT SOME OF THIS REMINDS ME OF WHILE WE'RE GETTING SET UP AT THE TABLE. REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE GREAT METEOROLOGISTS LIKE RICH MARRIOTT. BUT IT REMINDS ME OF STEVE POOLE AND HE WOULD SEE EVERYONE AT THE GROCERIES GETTING -- GETTING STUFF BECAUSE STEVE POOLE WOULD SMELL SNOW IN THE AIR AND HE WOULD ALWAYS PREDICT IT RIGHT ON TIME. WITH THE FRESHEST SHARPEST HAIRLINE IN HISTORY. AND SO JUST -- HE WILL BE MISSED. STEVE POOLE. AND ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF TOO AS WELL ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHO HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL IN OUR SECURITY AND EVERYONE WHO IS CONTINUING TO KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING. WE SAW SNOW PLOWS OUT LAST NIGHT. WE SAW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE. AND JUST -- THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A GREAT AGENDA TODAY. SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT OPCD DID IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS WELL. AND HOW THEY INTEGRATED THAT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL EAGER TO HEAR ABOUT HOW IT WAS INTEGRATED IN THE PLAN AND CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AND ALL THIS GOOD STUFF. AND ALSO WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK HAS JOINED US. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. AND I BELIEVE WE ARE READY AND MY TEEING UP IS DONE. THANK YOU DIRECTOR QUIRINDONGO AND MICHAEL. WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING. WE ARE -- PRESENTING TODAY SLIDE DECK THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PRESENT LAST TIME WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE. WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT PHASING OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AND THE REPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. THE DRAFT PLAN COMMENTS AND HOW WE'VE INCOURTED FEED -- INCORPORATED FEEDBACK SO FAR INCLUDING THE ZONING UPDATE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT IN OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. NEXT SLIDE. SO WE'LL START BY JUMPING IN ON OUR ENGAGEMENT PHASING AND REPORTS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL. >> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? EXCELLENT. SO BEFORE GETTING INTO A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HEARD ESPECIALLY DURING SPRING AND FALL OF 2024, WE JUST WANT TO REFRESH YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE OVERALL ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND WHERE WHAT WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON TODAY FITS IN WITH THE LARGER PROCESS. TO START WITH AS WE BRIEFED THIS COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 6th, OUR OVERALL ENGAGEMENT WAS DIVIDED INTO FOUR PHASES. AND EARLY ENGAGEMENT DURING EARLY 2022 WHICH WE CALLED LISTEN AND LEARN, FROM MID 2022 THROUGH 2023, A DEEPER EXPLORATION OF ISSUES AND POTENTIAL POLICY CHANGES AND GROWTH STRATEGY CON CENTERS WHICH WE CALLED SHAPE THE PLAN. AND THEN PHASE THREE WHICH COMMENCE WITH THE RELEASE OF FIRST ROUND DRAFT MATERIALS IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR. WE HAD OUR REVIEW AND REFINE PHASE WHICH WE'LL BE GOING INTO MORE DETAIL ON TODAY AS WELL WE'LL BE GOING ON INTO MORE DETAIL ON PHASE OUR WHICH HAPPENED JUST THIS LAST FALL REMEMBER WHEN WE RELEASED THE DRAFT ZONING PROPOSALS. OFF OF THESE PHASES WERE GUIDED BY THE GOALS YOU SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE. AND WE'LL TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE PRINCIPLES AND CONCEPT WHENCES -- CONCEPTS WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT ITSELF. AT EACH PHASE OF ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC BOTH ON THE FRONT END AND THEN AT THE BACK END ABOUT THIS PROCESS. THE ONE PIECE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WS THE TOE. THE ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY REPORT. THIS COVERS THE ENTIRETY OF THE FOUR PHASES AND PROVIDES QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL WHICH FOR YOUR REFERENCE I MAY REFER YOU TO AS WE GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION TODAY BUT ESPECIALLY WHAT WE PUT OUT THERE IN TERMS OF MATERIALS. LINKS TO ALL THE PUBLIC FACING MATERIALS HAS LISTS OF ALL THE MEETINGS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS WE MET WITH. HAS DETAILS ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSES AND OTHER MEETINGS SOME OF OUR OUTREACH AND MEDIA PUBLIC FACING MATERIALS. THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THIS NEW SUMMARY REPORT WHICH WE'VE JUST RELEASED FOR THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE IN 2022 AND 2023, WE POSTED REPORT OUTS FROM OUR ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THROUGH THAT TIME PERIOD AND WE'RE POISED TO RELEASE FOR THE LAST TWO PHASES FOR PHASE THREE AND FOR PHASE FOUR. REPORT OUTS ON WHAT WE HEARD IN 2024. I WILL BE SUMMARIZING FOR YOU TODAY WHAT WE HEARD IN THOSE TWO PHASES. SO FIRST I'M GOING TO GET -- WE'LL TAKE THESE ON ONE AT A TIME AND TALK ABOUT SPRING 2024. WHERE WE TOOK IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DRAFT PLAN. AND OTHER DRAFT MATERIALS. SO IN MARCH OF 2024 WE -- OPCD RELEASED THREE KEY DOCUMENTS. ONE WAS THE DRAFT ONE SEATTLE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE ITSELF. WHICH HIGHLIGHT -- AND INCLUDED THE DRAFT GROWTH STRATEGY. THE SECOND DOCUMENT WAS THE DRAFT PROPOSAL FOR UPDATING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONES. TO COMPLY WITH HB 1110. THIS WAS AN EARLY CONCEPT PIECE. T IT'S NOT THE DRAFT LEGISLATION YET BUT IT HAD A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT APPEARED IN THE FINAL DRAFT LEGISLATION ITSELF AND FINALLY THE DRAFT EIS. I WANT TO PAUSE HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE SAY DRAFT GROWTH STRATEGY, WHAT DO THE PUBLIC SEE AND WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO REACT TO AND PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR? THE MAP ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE DRAFT GROWTH STRATEGY MAP THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. IT ALSO HAD THE LARGER GROWTH STRATEGY ELEMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN DRAFT. AND IN TOTAL, IT SHOWED THE LOCATION AND SIZE OF THE NEW PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. FOR EXAMPLE. IT SHOWED THE APPROXIMATE AREAS FOR EXPANSIONS OF EXISTING CENTERS. IT SHOWED THE FREQUENT TRANSIT ROUTES THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR POTENTIALUP ZONES AND IT HAD POLICIES THAT DESCRIBED WHAT TYPES OF USES AND THE HEIGHTS AND INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD BE ENVISIONED FOR EACH OF THE YEARS. NOT THE AS DETAILED AT THE ZONING MAP BUT IT PROVIDED LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AT THAT TIME AND THE DRAFT PROPOSAL FOR HB 1110 AS NOTED HAD A LOT OF THE INFORMATION YOU'D HAVE IN A ZONING CODE. IT TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND JUST IN BROAD CONCEPTS WHAT THE NEW ZONING CODE WOULD -- WOULD BE INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH. IT WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS. WE DESCRIBED AN INCENTIVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE WAS AT THAT TIME ALSO A PROPOSAL TO SET ASIDE AREAS THAT WERE AT HIGHER RISK OF DISPLAITMENT FOR A LOWER DENSITY UNDER HOUSE BILL 1110 AND WE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. WE PROVIDED MORE DETAIL TO YOU OWN JANUARY 6th AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE DID DURING SPRING OF 20224 TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WE HAD EIGHT OPEN HOUSES OVER 1500 PARTICIPANTS IN THE OPEN HOUSES AND THEY WERE IN LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY AND WE HAD THE ONLINE OPTION AS WELL. AND WE WERE -- ENCOURAGED AND, YOU KNOW, PLEASED WITH A LOT OF THE ATTENDANCE AND TALKING TO THE PUBLIC AND THE OPEN HOUSES, BUT WE ALSO REALIZED AT THAT TIME THAT WE DIDN'T APPEAR THAT WE WERE HEARING FROM LOT OF RESIDENTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS AND FOLKS WHO WERE FOLLOWING THE POLICY PROCESS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY THAT WE JUST OBSERVED WERE SHOWING UP AT THE OPEN HOUSES MORE SO THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY. WE INTENTIONALLY REACHED OUT TO COMMUNITY COUNCILS AND OTHER COMMUNITY BASED AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND HAD OVER 30MEETINGS DURING THE SPRING OF WELL TO ENHANCE OUR OUTREACH BEYOND THE OPEN HOUSES. WE HAD A ROBUST ONLINE PRESENCE AND ENGAGEMENT HUB WAS OUR DEDICATED WEBSITE AND ALLOWED TOOLS FOR PROVIDING COMMENT AND ANOTHER WEBSITE WAS THERE FOR THE DRAFT EIS STORY MAP WEBSITE VERY USER-FRIENDLY. AND THE COMMENT PERIOD LASTED FOR 60 DAYS AND ACTUALLY MORE THAN 60 DAYS FOR THE DRAFT PLAN WE EXTENDED THE COMMENT PERIOD A LITTLE BIT. WHO DID WE HEAR FROM? WE RECEIVED NEARLY 6,000 COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT PLAN INCLUDING WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSES AND EMAILED COMMENTS AND NEARLY 4,000 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT PLAN ITSELF. SOME PEOPLE -- IT PROVIDED MORE THAN ONE COMMENT. AND OF THAT NEARLY 4,000, THERE ARE ABOUT 1200 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTERS. WE ALSO RECEIVED QUITE A NUMBER OF LETTERS FROM ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THREE LETTERS FROM COALITIONS REPRESENTING NEARLY 100 ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN INDIVIDUAL LETTERS FROM ORGANIZATION -- FROM OVER 80 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESS, THE ENVIRONMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOUSERS, AND HOUSING ADVOCATES AND OTHERS. SO WHAT DID WE HEAR? AGAIN, THIS IS IN SPRING OF 2024. IN RESPONSE TO THE DRAFT PLAN. WELL, FIRST WITH REGARD TO THE GROWTH STRATEGY. WE HEARD GENERAL STRONG SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING AND PLAN PROVIDING FOR MORE HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY. MORE DIVERSE HOUSING CHOICES IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND MORE HOUSING DENSITY NEAR TRANSIT AND THE CONCEPT OF HOUSING AND MORE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH HOUSING NEAR SHOPS, SERVICES, AND AMENITIES THAT 15 MINUTE CITY IDEA WHICH HAS BEEN FLOATING AROUND AND NOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT CITY PLANNING LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS CERTAINLY A CONCEPT THAT WE TRY TO ADVANCE THROUGH THIS PLAN. GENERALLY, WE HEARD FROM MOSTCOMMENTERS CALLS FOR THE CITY TO DO MORE. LIKED WHAT THEY SAW AND ASKED US TO DO MORE AND THERE WERE SPECIFIC CALLS FOR PLAN TO INCLUDE MORE REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTERS. THERE WERE CALLS FOR THE PLAN TO INCLUDE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. I'LL REMIND YOU THE DRAFT HAD 24 NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IDENTIFIED AS A PROPOSAL. AND WE ALSO HEARD COMMENTS URGING US IN THE GROWTH STRATEGY AROUND THOSE TRANSIT CORRIDORS TO EXTEND BEYOND JUST THE BLOCKS FACING THE CORRIDORS TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY, MORE HOUSING ON QUIETER STREETS, AND MORE HOUSING IN MORE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE HEARD THREE MAIN TYPES OF THINGS WE WERE ASKED TO DO MORE OF. ON MIDDLE HOUSING, WE HEARD GENERAL STRONG SUPPORT@CONCEPT OF MIDDLE HOUSING AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THERE WAS NEW STATE REQUIREMENT AND WE RECEIVED MANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND OTHER DETAILS IN OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL. ESPECIALLY TO START WITH, THE PROPOSAL TO HAVE LOWER DENSITY IN AREAS OF HIGHER RISK OF DISPLACEMENT. WE GENERALLY HEARD OPPOSITION TO THAT CONCEPT. THERE WAS AN EXPRESS DESIRE FOR -- ALL NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDED MORE HOUSING SUPPLY AND MORE AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER BENEFITS OF THE NEW MIDDLE HOUSING PROVISIONS SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY TO ADD HOUSING. WE HEARD A VERY STRONG CALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ALLOW MORE FLOOR AREA ON A SITE. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED A FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT SETS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FLOOR IN NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY A 0.9 F. A. R.. THE STATE MODEL CODE WAS ACTUALLY LEASED JUST AFTER WE RELEASED THE DRAFT PLAN AND SET A HIGHER EXPECTATION FOR CITIES OF A 1.2 F. A. R.. AND WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL 0.9 WOULD HAVE BEEN A CONSTRAINT ON NEW DEVELOPMENT, MEANING WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE LESS MIDDLE HOUSING AND WOULD RESULT IN SMALLER UNITS AND THERE WAS AN EXPRESS DESIRE FOR MORE HOUSING UNITS THAT WERE LARGE ENOUGH FOR FAMILIES. WE RECEIVED COMMENTS SUGGESTING THAT REDUCING SETBACKS WOULD HELP ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONE. WE HEARD COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF STRONG INCENTIVES FOR STACKED FLATS. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL DID NOT HAVE A SEPARATE SET OF TREATMENT FOR STACKED FLATS. THEY WERE SEEN AS A MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE. ONE THAT WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OLDER RESIDENTS TO YOUNG CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE -- SINGLE LEVEL UNITS WITHOUT A LOT OF STAIRS. AND WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE COULD ENCOURAGE THAT THROUGH THE PLAN AND THE ZONING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AREA IN PARTICULAR. AND ALSO SUPPORT FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE I SHOULD SAY. AND FINALLY, WE WERE -- RECEIVED A T COMMENTS ABOUT PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE FURTHER STEPS TO ELIMINATE OR REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE CORNER STORES WHICH ARE ALLOWED IN THE MAYOR'S PLAN UNDER -- IN NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL. EVEN FROM FOLKS WHO HAD TOOK ISSUE WITH THE HIGHER HOUSING DENSITY THE CORNER STORE CONCEPT WAS VERY POPULAR BOTH IN THE SPRING AND THEN LATER IN THE FALL. AND EVEN WITH SOME CALLS FOR US TO CONSIDER LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT LITERALLY ON CORNERS. SO WHILE WE WERE HEARING BROAD CALLS FOR THE CITY TO DO MORE DURING THE SPRING. WE WERE ALSO STARTING TO HEAR CALLS ABOUT DENSITY. THIS IS MUTED AND MORE QUIETER IN THE SPRING AND BECAME I'D SAY MORE PREVALENT CONCERN IN THE FALL BUT WE STARTED TO HEAR CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY ON TREES AND TREE CANOPY. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT LOSS OF OPEN SPACE GENERALLY. WE HEARD VERY SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCAL IMPACTS OF DENSER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING SHADE AND SOLAR ACCESS TO ADJACENT OR NEARBY BUILDINGS. POTENTIAL TRAFFIC. NOISE, OTHER IMPACTS. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT HISTORIC RESOURCES AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND WHAT ESPECIALLY WHAT THE NEW MIDDLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS MIGHT MEAN FOR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND FINALLY, WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT DISPLACEMENT RISKS. COULD IN NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE NEW DENSITY EXACERBATE DISPLACEMENT IN THE CITY? WE DID HEAR ABOUT OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO MUCH DETAIL ABOUT TOPICS SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE JUST TO PICK A FEW OF THE PROMINENT TOPICS WE DID FLARE THE PUBLIC ABOUT. BUT FOLKS WERE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES. THEY WERE INTERESTED IN GENERALLY AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO WITH THE PLAN IN THESE AREAS TO ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVES TO AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC AND ENHANCED MOBILITY. TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO OPEN SPACE AS WE GROW AND BOTH REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND ALSO BE READY FOR CLIMATE IMPACTS. AND WE GOT A LOT OF VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THOSE AND REALLY WELCOMED THOSE. HOW DID WE USE THE COMMENTS FROM THE SPRING? SO WE CLOSED OUR COMMENT PERIOD IN MAY OF 2024. WE DID WORK OVER THE SUMMER TO REVISE THE GROWTH STRATEGY AND AS WE BRIEFED THE COMMITTEE ON INCREASED NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM 24 TO 30 IN TOTAL AND THERE WERE ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR PROPOSED EXPANSIONS TO REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTERS ALSO RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD IN THE SPRING. ON THE HOUSE BILL 1110 ZONING LEGISLATION, THERE WAS SOME KEY CHANGES HERE WE DID CHANGE THE ALLOWED F. A. R. FROM 0.9 TO 1.2 AGAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE MODEL CODE IN THAT AREA. WE REMOVED THE TAILORED APPROACH TO AREAS AT HIGH RISK OF DISPLACEMENT. THERE WAS A NEW INCENTIVE FOR STACKED FLATS WHICH WE DESCRIBED TO YOU AS A PREVIOUS MEETING. AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER HOUSE BILL 1110 BUT NOT TOTALLY ELIMINATING PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY. AND THERE'S REVISED POLICY LANGUAGE IN A NUMBER OF THE ELEMENTS, THE DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY IS THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED PLAN DOES HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THE POLICY ELEMENTS AS WELL THAT WERE INFORMED BY AND RESPONSIVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT THE FALL ENGAGEMENT. IN THE FALL, FOUR DOCUMENTS WERE RELEASED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE -- MAYOR WE DID THE DRAFT PLAN IN THE SPRING. THE DRAFT EIS AND A DRAFT HOUSE BILL 1110 ZONING LEGISLATION. IN THE FALL, THE ZONING LEGISLATION FOR MIDDLE HOUSING OUR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONE WAS REVISED AND RELEASED AS A REPORT THAT DESCRIBED THE APPROACH IN ITS ACTUAL DRAFT LEGISLATION. WE ALSO RELEASED DRAFT ZONING MAPS THAT PROVIDED MORE DETAIL ON PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGES AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. AND DRAFT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THE ZONING MAPS. IT'S IMPORTANT HERE I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. WHAT INFORMATION DID THE PUBLIC HAVE TO RESPOND TO? SO THE FIRST OF ALL, AS INFORMATION TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, WE RELEASED THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED GROWTH STRATEGY IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU SEE THAT MAP AT THE LEFT. IT'S QUITE SIMILAR TO THE DRAFT THAT WAS RELEASED IN THE SPRING. BUT WITH MORE DEFINITION AROUND BOUNDARIES, OF NEW NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND SOME OF THE EXPANSION AREAS. AND HERE IN THE -- IN THE FALL, ACCOMPANIED BY OUR ZONING MAPS, WHICH YOU SEE EXAMPLES AT RIGHT, THERE'S MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE HEIGHTS AND USES THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED IN NEW ZONING WITHIN EACH OF THOSE AREAS AND YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. A TRANSIT CORRIDOR. AND AN EXPANSION THEIR AROUND THE EXISTING CENTER. MORE DETAILS RELEASED IN THE FORM OF DRAFT ZONING MAPS THAT ACCOMPANIED THE RELEASE OF THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED GROWTH STRATEGY AND YOU SEE THOSE REPRESENTED ON THE SCREEN. SO WE HAD A SIMILAR APPROACH TO REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC. I WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS MORE INTENSIVE IN THE FALL. EVEN THAN IN THE SPRING. WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE SERIES AND WE HAD SEVEN OPEN HOUSES AND ONE IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT ONLINE OPEN HOUSE EQUIVALENTS. WE ALSO HAVE MORE ONLINE SESSIONS AS WELL. WE HAD VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS AND THESE WERE SEVERAL HOUR SESSIONS WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD LOG IN AND TALK TO STAFF AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WE DID EIGHT OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE TWO MONTH ENGAGEMENT PERIOD. WE HAD A DEDICATED WEBSITE WITH COMMENTING TOOLS. AND WE DID -- I WOULD SAY DID QUITE A BIT MORE ADVERTISING AND GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT IN THE FALL INCLUDING PAID ADVERTISING WITH VARIOUS MEDIA AND THERE ARE RADIO SPOTS THAT RAN ON KOUW DURING THIS PERIOD. IN THE SPRING AND FALL IT'S WORTH MENTIONING WE GOT A LOT OF EARNED MEDIA COVERAGE. WE HAD PROBABLY A HALF DOZEN SPOTS ON PUBLIC RADIO FEATURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THESE WERE FEATURED STORIES ABOUT DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. WE HAD TV NEWS COVERAGE. SEATTLE TIMES AND OTHERS COVERED THE PROCESS. THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN GETTING THE WORD OUT. BUT WE ALSO PAID FOR ADVERTISING IN THE FALL. WHO WE HEARD FROM? IT LOOKED A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE FALL THAN IN THE SPRING. I THINK THERE WAS EVIDENT IF YOU ATTENDED MID OF THE OPEN HOUSES, AND HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS. WE CONTINUED TO GET BROAD CITY WISE APARTMENT BUT WE STARTED TO HEAR MORE FROM RESIDENTS OF AREAS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR ZONING CHANGES. WE RECEIVED OVER 9,000 COMMENTS DURING THE FALL DURING THE 60 DAY COMMENT PERICLUDED COMMENTS OUR ONLINE YOU SEE AN IMAGE OF THIS AT THE RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE COULD CLICK ON A LOCATION AND PROVIDE VERY SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEIR BLOCK OAR A STREET THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. WE HADED THE ONLINE FORUM OF WAY TO SUBMIT A COMMENT WITHOUT GOING TO THE TROUBLE OF SENDING AN EMAIL BUT WE ALSO RECEIVED NEARLY 2,000 EMAILS AS WELL FROM MANY INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE CITY. THERE WERE NEARLY 6,000 EWE MEEK COMMENTERS DURING THIS PROCESS. THEN WE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE LETTERS FROM ORGANIZATIONS CITY-WIDE COMMUNITY A RANGE OF INTERESTS AND STAKEHOLDER CATEGORIES FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS NEARLY 40 LETTERS ON THE FALL DRAFTS. SO BRIEFLY, WHAT WE HEARD TO START WITH REGARDING THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND RESPONSE TO THE HB 1110 REQUIREMENTS, WE -- EVEN FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAFT LEGISLATION. WE DID HEAR GENERAL SUPPORT THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN THE CITY. AND THAT THE KINDS OF HOUSING THAT THE NEW AND MIDDLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE WOULD PROVIDE FOR WERE THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT THE CITY NEEDED. ESPECIALLY FAMILY SIZED HOUSING AND MORE AFFORDABLE HOME I'M OPPORTUNITIES AND THERE WAS BROAD RECOGNITION OF THAT BUT THERE WERE SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAFT LEGISLATION THAT WE STARTED TO HEAR MORE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT. CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT. BULK AND SCALE OF THE NEW MIDDLE HOUSING HOMES. CONCERNS ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL OR HISTORIC CHARACTER OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. ESPECIALLY ONES THAT HAD NATIONAL OR LOCAL RECOGNITION THOSE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. LIGHT AND SHADE IMPACTS. TRAFFIC AND PARKING. AGAIN THIS IS IN THAT MIDDLE HOUSING SCENARIO AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE MORE TYPES OF HOUSING ALLOWED. CONCERNS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY STORMWATER WAS ONE THING THAT CAME UP IN A LOT OF COMMENTS. AND IMPACT ON TREES BOTH EXISTING TREES CONCERNED THAT THEY MIGHT BE REMOVED THROUGH NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, AND HOW MUCH SPACE WE WERE PROVIDING FOR FOR PLANTING NEW TREES. WE HAVE HEARD I THINK FAIRLY EQUALLY ABOUT THE TWO CONCERNS REGARDING TREES. EVEN WHILE WE RECEIVED THOSE COMMENTS OF CONCERN WE DID ALSO CONTINUE TO HEAR STRONG SUPPORT GENERALLY FOR THE CITY HAVING A ROBUST RESPONSE TO HOUSE BILL 1110. WHAT DID WE HEAR ABOUT THE ZONING MAPS AND THE PROPOSAL FOR THE REST OF THE CITY? WE HEARD QUITE A LOT AND I WOULD SAY THERE WAS MORE FEEDBACK ON THIS COMPONENT THAN ON THE HB1110 ZONING. WE HEARD A VERY SIGNIFICANTLY AS I MENTIONED FROM RESIDENTS OF THE AREAS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR ZONING CHANGE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ALONG THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR, SOME OF THE EXPANSION AREAS AROUND THE EXISTING CENTERS. AND THEIR CONCERNS WERE MANYDIFFERENT ISSUES AND TO START WITH JUST REQUESTS TO REMOVE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS OR TO GREATLY REDUCE THE PROPOSED DENSITY IN AREAS THAT WERE SEEN AS PROBLEMATIC FOR THAT KIND OF CHANGE. BUT WE ALSO HEARD SOME VERY SPECIFIC COMMENTS AND CONCERNS AGAIN ABOUT THE SCALE OF BUILDINGS. ESPECIALLY THE PROXIMITY OF FIVE STORY DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO EXISTING HOMES. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADEQUACY OF EXISTING TRANSIT SERVICE. ABOUT ITS FREQUENCY. AND WHAT DESTINATIONS THAT TRANSIT WOULD BE GOING TO AND WHETHER ALL OF THOSE AREAS WERE INDEED APPROPRIATE FOR HIGHER DENSITIES ALONG OUR TRANSIT ROUTES. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WAS SEEN AS LIMITED ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL GOODS AND SERVICES AND HOW MANY STORES WERE NEARBY AND WERE THERE PUBLIC AMENITIES LIKE POST OFFICE AND LIBRARY, PARKS? SO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE AREAS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING NEW HOUSING. CONCERNS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. AGAIN, LOT OF FOCUS ON STORMWATER BUT ALSO SOME OF THE SORT OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE STREETS, HOW NARROW THE STREETS WERE. WERE THERE CURBS AND GUTTERS AND IMPACT ON TREES WITH REDEVELOPMENT. LIKE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND OTHERS AND SOME CONCERN ABOUT TREES AND THEN A LOT OF LOCALIZED FACTORS. WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT IN MY PART OF TOWN, HERE'S THE ISSUE. THINGS LIKE TOPOGRAPHY. HISTORIC DISTRICTS AGAIN. OTHER VERY SPECIFIC LOCAL CONCERNS. SO THIS IS ALL REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING. WHILE WE HEARD THOSE CONCERNS, WE ALSO CONTINUE TO HEAR BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE TEXT THE CITY WAS TAKING FROM A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS WHO PROVIDED COMMENT DURING THE FALL INCLUDING CONTINUED CALLS FOR US TO DO MORE THAN WAS PROPOSED WITH THE MAYOR'S REVISED GROWTH STRATEGY. IT'S MY LAST SLIDE. AND HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. AND WELCOME DISCUSSION. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT FALL ENGAGEMENT? -- BUT WE HEARD DURING THE FALL. WE'RE NOT QUITE AS FAR ALONG AS WE -- AS WE WERE WITH WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAFT PLAN. WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD IN THE FALL. THERE ARE NEARLY 6,000 COMMENTS THEY PROVIDE LOT OF DETAIL AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION. AND OPCD IS USING THAT TO INFORM HOW WE WERE REVISING THE NEW H B 1110 THAT LEGISLATION WHICH ISCOMING FORWARD IN MARCH TO YOU. THEN LATER IN SPRING THE LEGISLATION WE'RE CALLING CENTERS AND CORRIDORS, THAT'S ADOPTION OF THE NEW ZONING MAPS AND OTHER CODE CHANGES THAT WILL PROMOTE HOUSING IN THOSE AREAS. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE COMMENTS AND INFORMING ANY CHANGES THAT WE WOULD BRING FORWARD. REVISED MAPS AND REVISED CODE LANGUAGE AND WE WERE TAKING THAT COMMENT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'RE READING ALL OF THE COMMENTSOFFICE TO BRING A REVISED PROPOSAL. RICO, DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE OUT WITH ANY COMMENTS ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING COMMENTS AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ENGAGEMENT AND THE PLAN ITSELF? >> WELL, I WANT TO OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS OBVIOUSLY. I THINK THAT IT'S -- I THINK THAT WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PRESENTATION AND THE CONVERSATION THUS FAR IS THAT WE -- WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM FOLKS. AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT IN OUR COLLABORATIVE WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THAT THE COMMENTS THAT ARE RECEIVING AND I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU AS WELL. THAT THEY INFORM THE POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING AS IT RELATES TO WHAT SHOWS UP IN THE PLAN AS WELL AS AS IT RELATES TO CHANGES AND MODIFICATIONS TO OUR ZONING MAPS. SO WITH THAT I JUST -- I WOULD OPEN IT UP. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE STARTED THIS MEETING AND I FORGOT TO -- I APOLOGIZE. I FORGOT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS FOR WE'RE ONLY HERE AT 11:00 A.M. BECAUSE YOU SHORTENED YOUR MEETING TODAY THIS MORNING IN THE FINANCE MEETING. YOU WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY APOLOGIES AND I WILL STOP THERE. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS. AND I SEE COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, YOUR HAND IS RAISED. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THE FINAL POINT IN OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MORNING WAS A DISCUSSION ON HOW MANY SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEES WE'RE HAVING SO WE'LL BE CIRCLING UP WITH EACH OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE CERTAIN PIECES OF LEGISLATION WILL GO AND OTHER BUDGET OR SELECT BUDGET. DIRECTOR QUIRINDONGO AND MICHAEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR THE EXTENSIVE NUMBER OF OUTREACH EVENTS THAT YOU HELD THIS FALL. I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME SCHEDULING CHALLENGES AND I WAS HAPPY TO MAKE IT TO ONE OF THEM AND I'M EMBARRASSED BY THE PHOTO THAT YOU HAD UP THERE THAT I WAS IN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID SHARE WITH YOU AT THAT TIME WITH YOU MY CONCERN THAT IT SEEMED AS IF WE WERE NOT GETTING A WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THESE OPEN HOUSES. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I ATTENDED THE ONE IN DISTRICT 6. BUT I ALSO ATTENDED THE ONE IN DISTRICT 7 BECAUSE FOLKS IN MAGNOLIA WEREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO COME TO LOYAL HEIGHTS AND THEY WERE HABITUAL ABOUT GOING OVER TO QUEEN ANNE. CONCERNS THAT IT WAS SO FOCUSED ON THE DISTRICT THAT DISTRICT 6 DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT GREENWOOD AS I THINK WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. ALL OF THAT SAID, MY TAKEAWAY WAS THAT EVERY DAY SEATTLE-ITES WEREN'T NECESSARILY ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL. FOR THEM AT THAT POINT YET. AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS JUST THAT THERE IS A PROPOSED MAP BUT MAYBE FOLKS AREN'T RECOGNIZING IT. MR. HUBNER, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE EARNED NEED YEA AND THE FEATURED STORIES IS TRUE. I HEARD THOSE STORIES AND I READ THOSE STORIES. AND THOSE STORIES WERE ALSO AT A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT THE WHOLE PLAN OVERALL. AND IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON SOMEBODY'S BLOCK. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE CONCERN FOR ME IS COMING IS THAT SINCE ABOUT BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, I HAVE HAD A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME TO HAVE THESE MET MEETINGS AND I'M GETTING TO A QUESTION IN A MOMENT. BUT I KNOW THAT I SHARED THIS WITH YOU THE OTHER DAY. THAT I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT NOT EVERYDAY SEATTLE-ITES WERE AWARE THAT THEY HAD PUBLIC HOUSE OPPORTUNITIES THIS FALL. AND NOW THAT THIS PLAN IS REAL AND BEFORE US, THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW HAVING DESIRES TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD. I HAD OFFICE HOURS JUST THE OTHER DAY WITH SOMEBODY THAT WAS SO CONCERNED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS HEARD AND THEIR VOICE HEARD AND I -- REASSURED THEM THAT IT HADN'T BEEN TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL YET. AND I WAS HERE TO MEET WITH THEM AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. AND SO THERE'S ALSO A FEELING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. I CAN'TED IF EACH OF US WANTED THE HOST THE OPEN HOUSE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE NEARLY UNTENABLE AS EACH OF US HAVE FOUR STAFF. THAT WOULD BE I MEAN IT COULD HAPPEN. BUT YOU KNOW? IT'S -- WHEREAS YOU KNOW, YOUR DEPARTMENT IS SET UP TO DO THESE OUTREACH EVENTS AND I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC SOLUTION TODAY. I AM ASKING CHAIR IF WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW OPCD CAN CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT WITH FEEDBACK AND HOW THAT WORKS. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE ALSO IF THE FEIS IS APPEALED WE HAVE MUCH MORE TIME. IF IT'S NOT WE'RE ON A PRETTY SHORT TIMELINE. BUT YOU KNOW, I'LL GET DOWN TO THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY. IS FOR FOLKS THAT BECAME AWARE IN EARLY DECEMBER OF THE COMMENT PERIOD THAT ENDED ON DECEMBER 20th, AND YOU HAVE ALWAYS HEARD ME FEEDBACK AND WHEN I WAS LAND USE CHAIR I WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR COMMENT PERIODS TO END DURING THE HOLIDAYS OR TO GO OVER HOLIDAYS WITHOUT AN EXTENSION. BUT FOR SOMEBODY THAT DID SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS IN THOSE LAST FEW WEEKS OR DECEMBER 19th OR DECEMBER 20th, HOW WERE THOSE COMMENTS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? DID THEY SHOW UP IN YOUR FINAL FEIS AND CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU TOOK PEOPLE'S COMMENTS AND WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THEM COMMENTING WAS? >> AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS NOW. THE PURPOSE OF THE FALL ENGAGEMENT WAS TO INFORM THE LEGISLATION FOR THE HOUSE BILL 1110 NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONING ONE AND TWO ZONING FOR CENTERS AND CORRIDORS. NEITHER OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SENT TO COUNCIL YET AND WE'RE WORKING TO REVISE THOSE DRAFT PROPOSALS FOR TRANSMITTAL TO YOU. WE ARE SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE USING THOSE COMMENTS TO INFORM ANY CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATION. WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE WERE -- THERE ARE -- COMMENTS THAT REFLECT ON AND PROVIDE INPUT TO THE PLAN ITSELF. TO THE LARGER GROWTH STRATEGY. WE DID MAKE AN EFFORT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT THAT HIGH LEVEL THE NEW AREAS FOR GROWTH LIKE THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE REPRESENTED IN THE COMP PLAN THAT WERE THERE FACTORS OR ISSUES THAT MIGHT SUGGEST TWEAKING THE BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW, MAKING SOME CHANGES THAT WE COULD MAKE IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE RELEASING THE PLAN IN EARLY JANUARY AND WE DID DO THAT. THERE WERE SOME WE DID -- DO A -- SCAN OF WHAT WE HAD HEARD AS TOE WHAT IT WOULD MEAN FOR THE GROWTH STRATEGY MAP AND THERE ARE SOME SMALL CHANGES THERE. AND WHEN THE ZONING LEGISLATION IN MAY IS WE HAVE QUITE A LOT OF LATITUDE WITHIN THE WAY THE PLAN TALKS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND CORRIDORS TO REFLECT AND TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT'S REALLY SET IN STONE IN THE PLAN ITSELF. AND THE ZONING LEGISLATION WILL BE VERY SUBSTANTIVE AND WE'LL CONSIDER WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY. IT'S A LOT OF COMMENT AND A LOT OF IT IS VERY DETAILED SO WE ARE TAKING OUR TIME WITH IT. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMENT PERIOD ENDED IF THE -- IF THE COMMENT PERIOD ON THE 20th WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE ZONING PROPOSALS? >> THE COMMENT PERIOD ON THE PLAN WAS IN THE SPRING. THAT WAS THE FIRST SEGMENT OF MY PRESENTATION. THAT WAS IN THE DRAFT PLAN WAS RELEASED. THE ENGAGEMENT IN THE FALL THE COMMENT PERIOD WAS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE ZONING. THAT SAID, SOMETIMES COMMENTS ABOUT ZONING SUGGEST WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE BOUNDARIES AROUND CENTERS OR OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL IN THE PLAN. WE'RE ENDEAVORING TO CONNECT THE DOTS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. >> LET ME REPEAT BACK TO YOU WHAT I THINK I HEARD IS THAT THE FEIS WAS JUST PUBLISHED LAST WEEK WAS BASED ON THE COMMENT THAT ENDED IN THE SPRING. WHEN DID THAT COMMENT PERIOD END. >> THE FEIS IS ON A SEPARATE PARALLEL TRACK FROM THE PLAN ITSELF. IN THE SPRING, WE RELEASED TWO THINGS. THE DRAFT PLAN AND THERE'S 60 DAY COMMENT PERIOD ON THE DRAFT PLAN. THERE WAS A DRAFT EIS THAT HAD A CONCURRENT 60 DAY COMMENT PERIOD. WE RECEIVED OVER 500 COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT EIS. AND THE FINAL EIS WHICH WAS RELEASTED LAST THURSDAY INCLUDES RESPONSES TO ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND IT'S A VERY SEPARATE PROCESS AND WE RESPOND TO EACH COMMENT THAT WE GET IN A DRAFT EIS. AND ALL OF THOSE SO THAT'S ALL THAT WAS IN THE SPRING AND THERE WAS NO -- NOTHING NEW RELEASED ON THE EIS IN THE FALL. AND THERE WERE NO NEW COMMENTS ON THE EIS IN THE FALL. >> THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE FEIS WAS THE SPRING. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> OKAY AND YOU INCORPORATED THOSE COMMENTS TO PUBLISH THE DOCUMENT YOU DID LAST WEEK. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, ARE THE ZONING PROPOSALS AND THAT COMMENT PERIOD ENDED ON DECEMBER 20th IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND YOU HAVE NOT YET TRANSMITTED THOSE BILLS, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO IMCORPORATE THE COMMENTS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED? >> WE ARE READING ALL OF THEM. AND IDENTIFYING ISSUES AND POTENTIAL CHANGES AND WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO PREPARE THAT LEGISLATION. OF WHAT WE WOULD TO WITH ANY SET OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH IT VERY -- MEANINGFULLY AND IN DETAIL. BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND WE'RE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY. >> VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MR. HUBNER FOR YOUR BRIEF AND DIRECTOR QUIRINDONGO FOR JOINING US TODAY. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I DO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND I RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, SOME CHANGES COULD HAVE BEEN MADE IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATIONS. BUT I DO APPRECIATE LIKE -- DIRECTOR JOINING ME FOR THE QUEEN ANNE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. WHICH HAVE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING OUTREACH SESSIONS THERE'S BEEN. BUT WE HAVE HAD OTHERS WITH THE QUEEN ANNE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THERE AND WE HAVE MORE COMING UP MAGNOLIA COMMUNITY CENTER AND I'M MEETING WITH THE MAGNOLIA GROUP RELATED TO SOUTHEAST MAGNOLIA. I SUSPECT MY COLLEAGUES ARE DOING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF OUTREACH AS WELL. IT'S INTERESTING, THREE R CENTERS. TWO URBAN CENTERS. I'M COUNTING EAST LAKE AND A BIT OF EAST LAKE AND D 7. AND ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IN -- DISTRICT 7. AND THEN IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE MAJOR AREAS, BECAUSE OF -- THERE'S A QUESTION -- SO A LOT OF THE FOCUS IS THAT ONE AREA OF D-7 MAGNOLIA BUT REALLY QUEEN ANNE IS THE CENTER OF THIS PHASE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS JUST FOR CONFIRMATION. THE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS ZONING LEGISLATION WITH MAY BEHIND IT. THAT'S FOR THE URBAN CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THE REGIONAL CENTERS ARE THAT NEXT PHASE IN SEPTEMBER. JUST FOR CONFIRMATION. >> GO AHEAD. >> THE AREAS WHERE THE MAYOR'S PLAN INCLUDES PROPOSED EXPANSION OF REGIONAL CENTERS LIKE UPTOWN. THE SMALL EXPANSION OF THE NORTH. EDGE OF UPTOWN. THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE MAY LEGISLATION THE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS LEGISLATION. >> BUT EVERYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE REGIONAL CENTERS WOULD BE IN THAT NEXT PHASE FOR SEPTEMBER? OR PHASE THREE. >> IT WOULD BE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION IF THERE ARE ZONING CHANGES IN EXISTING CENTERS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT. THERE'S NO PROPOSED LEGISLATION AT THIS TIME. BUT IT WOULD COME LATER. >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY FOR MY DISTRICT. AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 7 CAME IN HORIZONTALLY BECAUSE WE WENT VERTICAL. AND THE -- THE VOICES OF THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE REGIONAL CENTERS REALLY, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD AND IT'S SIMILAR IN MY EXPERIENCE TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PARTS OF DISTRICT 7 AND REALLY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, AND THAT KIND OF GOES TO THE 15 MINUTE CITY DELIVERABLE CITY. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE REALLY PUSHING FOR THE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL OF THE RESIDENTIAL CONVERSIONS AND DOWNTOWN. AND MY STAFF IS GOING TO BRING DIRECTOR OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COUNCIL'S NEW FLYER THAT I PROMISED YOU AT THE LAST MEETING AND I'LL HAVE THEM BRING IT TO ME HERE. AND I'LL HAVE ONE FOR YOU TOO HUBNER. SO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE SO MANY RESIDENTS THAT'S COMING UP AND I HAVE HAD RECENT MEETINGS WITH BELLTOWN AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LIVABLE CITY TOO. AND HERE'S THE CHALLENGE. LIKE HOW MANY GROCERY STORES ARE IN THE GREATER DOWNTOWN? WHEN I SAY GREATER DOWNTOWN YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN ITSELF BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, PIONEER SQUARE. CID. YOU KNOW, THE PIKE PLACE MARKET. BELLTOWN. UPTOWN. AND SOUTH LAKE, YOU KNOW. LIKE HOW MANY THERE? PHARMACIES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BUNCH OF CAFE AND RESTAURANTS BUT NOT THE MIX AND SOME AREAS HAVE LESS. LIKE BELLTOWN. THEY'RE REALLY HURTING AND THEN THE SMALL BUSINESSES AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY FIRST FLOOR KIND OF EMPTY, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY COME ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF DISTRICT 7. BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING PIECE WITH REGARDING TO THE AREAS WITHIN THE REGIONAL CENTERS. AND BOTH THERE AND IN PLACES LIKE QUEEN ANNE, IT WAS THE IDEA OF KEEPING THE HISTORICAL PIECES. YOU KNOW, I LIVED IN THREE TIMES IN THE DC AREA AND DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, HAS MR. GREAT WAY OF MAINTAINING THE OLD BUILDINGS AND KEEPING THE SHELLS AND THEN BUILDINGS NEW AND WITHIN AND UP. BUT KEEPING THAT FEATURE AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT AS WELL. THERE'S LITTLE BIT AS I MENTIONED IN A MEETING RECENTLY FOR OUR DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL. BASICALLY A COUNCIL OF D 7s COMMUNITY COUNCILS. AND YOU KNOW, HOW THE -- YOU COME ON WEST LAKE TO HIT MERCER SOUTHBOUND. THE OLD I THINK IT WAS FORD -- I FORGET THE AUTOMOBILE AND THEY KEPT THAT FACADE AND THEN THEY BUILT, YOU KNOW, AROUND IT AND THEN ABOVE. YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THAT HISTORICAL KIND OF PIECES IS SO IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE TRANSPORTATION PIECES. THAT CAME OUT LIKE IN THIS MEETING WITH THE DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL. AND DOWNTOWN THE GREATER DOWNTOWN IS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PIECE BECAUSE AS WE DO THE HOUSING AND THAT, THE TRANSPORTATION PIECES HAS GOT TO BE THERE. OTHERWISE WE WON'T HAVE THAT 15 MINUTE LIVABLE CITY. AND FOR CONSTITUENT SUZANNE WHO'S OUT THERE I'M GOING TO SAY THE WORD TREES. WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THIS AND WE THE WAY REGARDING MY DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL. MR. ANDERSON WHO'S OUT HERE, HE PARTICIPATED IN, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HISTORICAL CHARACTER LIKE DENNY TRIANGLE AND MAINTAINING A WAY TO KEEP THAT FEEL BUT ALSO DO THE DENSIFICATION. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT REALLY CAME OUT OF THE OUTREACH THAT -- THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING AS THE, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 7 REPRESENTATIVE. SO MY QUESTION THERE IS, HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE REGIONAL CENTER AREAS VERSUS LIKE -- OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW, AND THE LIKE? >> YES. WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING GENERALLY A DESIRE FOR PLANNING FOR GROWTH AND DENSITY AROUND OUR MAJOR TRANSIT INVESTMENTS. MANY OF THEM ARE IN OUR EXISTING -- REGIONAL CENTERS. AND TO SOME IN URBAN CENTERS AS WELL AND LIGHTRAIL. THE -- EXISTING STATIONS AND ALSO THE PLANNED ONES FOR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DOWNTOWN HAS A LOT OF NEW LOCATIONS FOR FUTURE STATIONS. SOME ROBUST RAPID TRANSIT LINES AS WELL. WE DID HEAR COMMENTS URGING THE CITY TO CONSIDER MORE DENSITY GENERALLY AROUND STATION AREAS AND ALSO SPECIFICALLY IN REGIONAL CENTERS. IT WASN'T PART OF THE -- THERE WEREN'T CHANGES IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS IN THE DRAFT PLAN THAT WAS RELEASED IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR. NOR WERE THERE VERY MANY ZONING CHANGES THAT TOUCHED THE EXISTING CENTERS IN THE FALL SO THERE WASN'T A LOT TO REACT TO FROM THE PUBLIC. I WOULD SUSPECT THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT LAND USE AND DENSITY AND HOUSING IN OUR EXISTING CENTERS. I THINK I'M NOT AT ALL SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT THAT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. BUT WE DEFINITELY HEARD THAT THE PUBLIC VALUES AND RECOGNIZES REGIONAL CENTERS ARE A BIG PART OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH IN THE FUTURE. AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF LIKE WHAT ROLE OUR REGIONAL CENTERS HAVE IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED PLAN, IT IS STILL A VERY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE GROWTH THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. EVEN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER CHANGES WOULD BE IN REGIONAL CENTERS AND WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR IT. >> OKAY. AND I SUSPECT SOME OF THAT COULD BE WITHIN LIKE -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, PIECE THAT LIVABLE CITY PIECE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IN DISTRICT 7 AND I MYSELF AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT. IT'S AN INNER BAY AND REALLY ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT'S ALREADY THERE FOR THE MOST PART. AND IT'S KIND OF CONSTRAINED BUT A IT'S AN INNER BAY. BUT THAT'S THE ONE AREA IN INNER BAY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE HOUSING SO HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER THERE MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PUSHBACK ON THAT. SO ONE LESS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER TO WORRY ABOUT FOR YOU. AND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS TO INCLUDE THE DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL WHICH HAD OTHER GROUPS LIKE QUEEN ANNE AND SEATTLE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS, IS THE IDEA OF SOME MINI NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WHICH I HAVE BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY AND I COULD FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN THAT KIND OF LIKE A STEP BY STEP APPROACH TO SEE, YOU KNOW; WHICH ONES MAY GROW ORGANICALLY. SO THAT WAS OF INTERESTING EXCHANGE AND OF COURSE I ALWAYS KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE FRONT AND CENTER. I WON'T ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT. ANOTHER POINT TOO THAT CAME UP IN THE OUTREACH AND SOMETHING I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE IN AS WELL BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE VARIED HOUSING TYPES. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE FLEX STATS AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRIPLEXES AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT MIXES OF TYPES OF HOUSING. AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE. AND SO -- I THINK THAT -- I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU BUT I WOULD SAY PARTLY THAT I'MAGE TO NOT WAIT UNTIL MAY. I THINK LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE PROBABLY READY TO ACCEPT THE ZONING LEGISLATION NOW. BECAUSE WE'VE DONE OUR OWN OUTREACH AND AM I READY AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S THOUGHTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE NEWSLETTER WE PUT OUT AND THE TWO PAGER I'M GOING TO PUT OUT. SO WE'RE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING AND BUT -- IN THE MEANTIME, THE OUTREACH WILL CONTINUE LIKE I SAID WITH MAGNOLIA COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND QUEEN ANNE COMMUNITY COUNCIL PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IN THIS PHASE THAT'S WHERE THE CENTER OF DISTRICT 7 IS. SO THANK . >> I CHICANING MEMBER SAKA AND THEN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION. IT IS NO SURPRISE TO ME THAT SO MUCH OF OUR COMMUNITY IS EAGER TO ENGAGE ON THIS ISSUE GIVEN THE WAYS IN WHICH SO MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE IMPACTED BY THE HOUSING CRISIS. IT IS -- URGENT AND IT IS DIRE FOR MANY. AND WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT ENGAGEMENT PLAY OUT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING LATER TODAY BUT MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL ON THE EDGE GAMEMENT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY. WHAT METHOD DID YOU USE TO MAKE SURE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BROODY COMMUNITY? NAMELY TRY TO REACH BLACK AND INDIGENOUS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AS WELL AS RENTERS? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WERE VERY FOCUSED ON FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE ENTIRE ARC OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE BEGAN. EVEN BEFORE 2022 WHEN PRIOR COUNCIL ASKED OPCD TO DO AN EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING SEATTLE 2035 PLAN AND WE HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND THAT. THERE'S OUR REPORT PRODUCED BY POLICY LINK. WE BROUGHT IN TO HELP US EVALUATE THE CURRENT PLAN AND WE DID ENGAGEMENT THEN. VERY INTENTIONALLY REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN AS ENGAGED OR BEEN ABLE TO ENGAGE ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. JUST BIPOC COMMUNITIES AND DIFFERENT CULTURAL COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY. A WIDE SWATH OF FOLKS THAT WE KNEW HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED SO WE STARTED THEN. IN THE FIRST TWPHASES OF ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON TODAY. THAT'S WHERE WE DID THE HEAVY LIFTING AROUND BROADENING THE TENT IN OUR OUTREACH. HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT WOULD BE OUR -- ENHANCED SO WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO BEGIN WITH. THERE ARE THE COMMUNITY LIAISON PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS HAS -- STAFF WHO ARE AVAILABLE, THAT ARE MEMBERS OF OR RELATIONSHIPS WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE CITY BRING IN LANGUAGE AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND OUTREACH. WE WORK WITH DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS DURING THAT PERIOD VERY HEAVILY. WE CONTRACTED WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS. THIS IS A NEW MODEL FOR OPCD. AGAIN, WE HAD A CALL FOR PROPOSALS FROM ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT OR WORK IN COMMUNITIES. WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHTEN ENGAGEMENT WITH AND WE HAD EIGHT DIFFERENT CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS. REPORTS FROM THE WORK THEY DID TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. THEY ALSO MEET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF AND WE DID TARGETED OUTREACH AROUND COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT. THOSE ARE JUST HIGHLIGHTS. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT AND MANY DIFFERENT JUNCTURES WE DID THE EXTRA EFFORT TO BROAD P OUR ENGAGEMENT TO REACH FOLKS WE HADN'T O CAN . GO TO THE MAIN ONE SEATTLE PLAN WEB PAGE, YOU WILL SEE ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE ROLLED UP SUBJECT AREAS IS ENGAGEMENT. THE LAST TAB ON THAT. OR THE LAST LINK ON THAT IS POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CBO PARTNERS IN THE SPRING OF '23 WE RECEIVED REPORTS SO IT WAS THE -- ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN LABOR ALLIANCE VALLEY SUSTAINABILITY ASSOCIATION LIBRARY, KAYMER COMMUNITY OF SEATTLE KING COUNTY, PATHWAYS, CABOT HILL EGO DISTRICT AND RISING TIDE. SO YOU CAN GET -- SO WE CONTRACT WITH EACH OF THOSE CBOs TO DO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS RELATED TO THE PLAN. AND THEN COMPILE RESPONSES FROM COMMUNITIES SO THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN GET A BUNCH MORE DETAIL THERE. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ENGAGED AROUND BLACK HOME OWNERSHIP AND PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO EITHER RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE HOME THAT THEY ARE IN, OR BE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS. >> THANK YOU FOR LAYING THAT OUT AND WHAT ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE TO DAYLIGHT THAT WORK. THAT'S REALLY INCREDIBLE AND ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THOSE KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW THIS WORK REALLY BEGAN WITH FOSTERING AND ENGAGING WITH THOSE GROUPS. AND KIND OF ALSO TO THAT END, THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY COMMISSION, STRIVE TO BE REPRESENTATIVE IN SO MANY WAYS AND THEY'RE DESIGNED AS SUCH TO REPRESENT A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AND BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERIENCES. SO WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE VARIOUS CITY COMMISSIONS WE HAVE, FROM THE RENTERS COMMISSION TO DISABILITY COMMISSION AND LGBTQ COMMISSION, HOW HAVE SOME OF OUR COMMISSION PARTNERS ENGAGED ON THE PLAN AND HOW HAS THEIR FEEDBACK PERHAPS BEEN INCORPORATED? >> SO THERE'S -- THERE'S DETAIL IN THAT SUMMARY REPORT THAT I TALKED ABOUT DURING THE PRESENTATION. IT LISTS ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE ENGAGED WITH. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMB BUT I THINK IT'S -- COUPLE PROBABLY DOZEN DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE EITHER PROVIDED PRESENTATIONS TO, HAD FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, AND/OR RECEIVED LETTERS FROM AND I KNOW LOT OF THEM HAD COMMENTS DURING THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND IT'S A GREAT WAY AS YOU HAVE NOTED TO REACH A VERY BROAD CONSTITUENCY AND WITH FOLKS THAT CAN COME TO THE TABLE HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ALSO PROVIDE VERY ISSUE SPECIFIC AREA SUBJECT AREA SPECIFIC FEEDBACK AS WELL. SO ALL OF THOSE WERE BENEFIT AND VALUE >> ON SLIDE 11, YOU NOTED THAT THE PUBLIC ASKED FOR MORE REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTERS, MORE REGIONAL CENTERS, WIDER CORE TR RESPONSE TO THE FIRST DRAFT. THE SECOND DRAFT ADDED MORE. WE WENT FROM 20 FOR PROPOSED CENTERS TO 30 EXPANSIONS TO REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTER EXPANSIONS AND THERE IS A NOTE ON SLIDE 22 THAT IN ADDITION TO CONCERNS THAT HAD ARISEN, THERE STILL WERE CALLS TO ZONE FOR MORE HOUSING IN MORE AREAS. ULTIMATELY, WE SAW LITTLE CHANGE BETWEEN THE SECOND DRAFT AND THE DRAFT NOW BEFORE US . SOME OF OUR CENTERS SEEM TO HAVE REDUCED SLIGHTLY IN SCALE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW COMMENTS ON THE SECOND DRAFT, WITH RESPECT TO CONSIDERING THE NUMBER, SIZE AND LOCATION OF REGIONAL AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL PROPOSAL? >> WITH RESPECT TO THE NUMBER, LOCATION, AND SIZE OF THE CENTERS, THAT WAS BACK IN THE SPRING OF 2020 FOR. WE INCORPORATED THAT FEEDBACK BETWEEN THE DRAFT PLAN IN THE SPRING AND THE MAYOR'S PREFERRED, RECOMMENDED GROWTH STRATEGY WHICH WAS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER. I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THE COMMENTS AS TWO KINDS. ONE WAS BROADLY, JUST ON THE ISSUE. THERE SHOULD BE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, LET'S SAY. ALSO, SPECIFIC. X LOCATION WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL CENTER. WE HAD THOSE TWO TYPES OF COMMENTS. WE LOOKED AT THOSE AND THAT HELPED INFORM THE PROCESS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, IDENTIFYING THE FIVE OR SIX ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS THAT WERE IN THE MAYOR'S PREFERRED VERSUS THE DRAFT AND AREAS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING WITH ADDITIONAL EXPANSION. BOTH BROADLY AND SPECIFICALLY, ABOUT LOCATIONS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. >> I SUPPOSE I WAS FOCUSING ON BETWEEN THE SECOND DRAFT, THE PAUL DRAFT. >> BETWEEN THE SPRING AND THE FALL. THE SPRING WITH THE DRAFT PLAN IN THE FALL WAS THE MAYOR'S RECOMMEND GROWTH STRATEGY THAT WAS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER. THAT IS ONLY VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE MAYOR'S PLAN WHICH WAS RELEASED IN JANUARY. AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, THERE ARE SOME VERY SMALL BOUNDARY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE MAP BUT IT IS LARGELY THE SAME AS THE MAYOR'S STRATEGY AS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER. >> MOVING US TO -- ON SLIDE 12, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC ASK ABOUT REDUCING OR ELIMINATING OFFSTREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN, OR TELL ME FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WHY WE STILL HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? >> SO, FIRST, I WANT TO EXPLAIN IN THE DRAFT RELEASED IN THE SPRING, THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS. RATHER, JUST INDICATING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SECOND, JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE, HOUSE BILL 1110 DOES HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REQUIRE OFFSTREET PARKING, THAT IS WITHIN A HALF-MILE OF OUR MAJOR TRANSIT STATIONS. THAT IS THE LANDSCAPE WE WERE LOOKING AT. FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT AND CONSIDER THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE AND IF IT'S OF PARKING IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A PLACE TO PUT AUTOMOBILES, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE LIMITED SUPPLY OF ON STREET PARKING WHICH VARIES ACROSS THE CITY. WITH, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, THAT HAS BEEN, I THINK, STUDIED QUITE EXTENSIVELY IN THE PLANNING LITERATURE AND THE OTHER CITIES. WHICH IS, WHERE YOU REQUIRE OFFSTREET PARKING AT A CERTAIN POINT, IT STARTS TO BECOME A COST AND A RESTRAINT ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS BOTH IN TERMS OF PURE SITES ARE FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF PARKING BUT ALSO, THE SPACE IN THE BUILDING AND SPACE ON THE SITES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN UP THE CARS AND NOT BY PEOPLE. THIS IS A BALANCING ACT AND PUTTING A PROPOSAL TOGETHER, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WE HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE THE EXISTING -- FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY WHERE WE ARE STILL ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW TO REQUIRE OFFSTREET PARKING, TO REDUCE IT BY ABOUT HALF. THAT REQUIREMENT FROM THE CURRENT ONE STATE PER PRINCIPAL UNIT 21 SPACE PER EVERY TWO UNITS. >> GIVEN SOME OF THOSE POSITIVE FEEDBACKS RELATED TO CORNER STORES , I DEFINITELY HEARD ABOUT THAT. WHAT IS THE CONSIDERATION TO EXPAND THEIR SCOPE TO NON-CORNER LOTS AND TWO OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE -- JUST TO HELP PROMOTE SMALL BUSINESSES. AND THINKING HAIR SALONS, LAUNDROMATS OR BOOKSTORES. >> THAT IS A LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU WILL SEE IN THE ZONING LEGISLATION ITSELF AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE IN THE MAY, PROJECTED FOR THE MAY ZONING TRANSMISSION. PARDON ME, I MISSPOKE. THAT WOULD BE IN THE MARCH TRANSMISSION. >> WONDERFUL.NCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FIELDING THEM AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. NEXT, WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY COLLEAGUES -- >> GOOD MORNING. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU VERY LOUD, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE GOOD. >> I CAN HEAR YOU FINE. IS THE VOLUME TURNED UP? >> WE CORRECTED IT. IT WAS A LITTLE LOUD IN HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> I HAVE A LOUD VOICE AS IS. WELL, FIRST OFF, COLLEAGUES, IT IS ALWAYS MY STRONGEST PREFERENCE TO JOIN YOU IN PERSON AND APOLOGIES I CANNOT DO THAT TODAY. AS COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, AS WE HEARD IN THAT COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND TRAVEL COMMITTEE, I HAVE TWO OF THREE KIDS OF MY OWN ELEMENTARY HOME TODAY. OF COURSE, SNOW DAY, REMOTE SCHOOL, WHATEVER THAT IS. IT IS SURVIVAL MODE IN MY HOUSEHOLD RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE AND GRACE. IT IS LUNCH TIME SOON. I THINK IT IS UNQUESTIONABLE'S FOR EVERYONE, MYSELF INCLUDED. IN ANY EVENT, DIRECTOR, REALLY APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. I ALSO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT AND KUDOS TO EVERYONE AT OP -- OPCD WORKING CLOSELY WITH ME IN MY OFFICE TO HOLD AT THE REQUEST OF ME IN MY OFFICE TO HOLD A FEW EXTRA SESSIONS SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT AS PART OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY OUTREACH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ARE FAIRLY FAR BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE STATE STATUTORY IMPOST DEADLINE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHARTING OUR GROWTH STRATEGY AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS BUT WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALONE, NOR HAVE WE GONE THROUGH IT ALONE. THE DOWNSIDE OF BEING A LITTLE FURTHER BEHIND IS THAT WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE CLOCK. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AT LEAST, OTHER CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED THEIR PROCESSES SO WE COULD CONCEIVABLY, BETTER UNDERSTAND BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT THEY DID IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. WHAT HELP, WHAT WORK, OR DIDN'T WORK FOR THEIR OWN PROCESSES. SO, MY FIRST QUESTION IS -- RELATES TO THAT. DID OUR CITY'S OWN OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT APPROACH DIFFER FROM OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, PARTICULARLY OTHER LARGER CITIES? WHAT DID THEY DO THAT WE DIDN'T AND VICE VERSA? WHAT DID WE DO THAT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY DO. -- DO? >> I WILL TAKE A CUT AT THAT. COUNCILMEMBER, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. WE HAVEN'T DONE -- THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK LOOK BACK -- I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK INTO TO TAKE FULL STOCK OF WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. THAT SAID, WE DO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY AND IN THE REGION BECAUSE WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME TIMELINE FOR DOING OUR COMP PLAN UPDATES. WE ARE IN MEETINGS WITH THEM, THE PUGET SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL AND OTHER FORUMS. WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO COMPARE NOTES ON OUR ENGAGEMENT. I WOULD SAY THAT, BY AND LARGE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT OUR NEW THINGS THAT HAVE SET A MODEL FOR SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT -- I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO THAT WE LEARN FROM BUT I THINK WE HAVE HAD THE RESOURCES AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WITHIN OUR CITY. OR EXAMPLE, THIS CONCEPT OF CONTRACTING WITH COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE HAS REACHED OUT TO US FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW WE DID THAT, BOTH LOGISTICALLY AND HOW WE WORKED IT INTO OUR POLICY. OTHER CITIES HAVE REACHED OUT TO US TO LEARN FROM WHAT WE HAVE DONE. SOME OF THE ONLINE TOOLS WE HAVE USED FOR ENGAGEMENT, WE ALL STARTED THIS PROCESS -- I CHUCKLE BECAUSE WE ALL REMEMBER BACK IN 2022 OR SO, WE WERE STILL VERY MUCH IN HYBRID WORLD. WOULD WE DO THESE MAJOR UPDATES WITH SUSTAINABILITY TO HAVE MANY IN-PERSON MEETINGS. WE DID COMPARE NOTES WITH OTHER CITIES ON THAT AND WE DID LEARN FROM EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF THE TOOLS, WHAT SOFTWARE WE WERE USING, HOW WE WERE REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE, HOW WE WERE HAVING TRUE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT CAN COME WITH THE ONLINE FORMAT. THOSE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE WE DID DO INFORMAL COLLABORATION BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING, AS WE ARE FINISHING UP THE COMP PLAN, LEARNED FROM ALL OF OUR EFFORTS AND WE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK TO CANCEL AND TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD. THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE WILL DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR A LARGE LAND-USE POLICY EFFORT IN THE CITY. >> HE IT. NO. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, WE DO NOT NEED TO RE-CREATE THE WHEEL AND WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR CHAIR OF LEARNING BETTER ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS. MY NEXT QUESTION GOES TO HOW SOME SPECIFIC FEEDBACK WAS INCORPORATED. YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION WHICH, THANK YOU. YOU INDICATED THAT THERE WAS SPECIFIC FEEDBACK TO GO BIGGER, BOLDER, MORE AGGRESSIVE, IF YOU WILL AND IN PART TO ADDRESS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, TO GO MORE ABOVE, ON TOP OF WHAT THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND, I THINK, IN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE DONE THAT IN PART I GOING FROM 20 FOR TO 30 NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, AMONGST OTHER CHANGES. YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT YOU HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM AND -- PERTAINING TO CONCERNS AROUND DENSITY AND PRESERVING THE UNIQUE CHARACTER AND FEEL OF WHAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT LOOK LIKE . SO, JUST CURIOUS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND -- A TWO PART QUESTION. WITH RESPECT TO THOSE LETTER CONCERNS AROUND DENSITY AND PRESERVING EACH NEIGHBORHOOD'S UNIQUE FEELS, HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT BALANCING THAT DELICATE NEEDLE, SO TO SPEAK, IN THIS PROPOSED PLAN. QUESTION ONE. DO YOU SPECIFICALLY ANTICIPATE THAT YOU WILL FURTHER ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS UNDER THE PENDING LEGISLATION IN MARCH AND MAY, I BELIEVE. >> COUNCILMEMBER, CAN YOU REPEAT THE FIRST QUESTION? >> HE IT. IT IS AROUND DENSITY . DID YOU GO ABOUT ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROPOSED PLAN THAT IS BEFORE US NOW AND THEN, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE FURTHER ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS, IF AT ALL IN THE PENDING LEGISLATION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO DROP IN MARCH AND MAY, I BELIEVE? >> HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING CONCERNS RELATED TO DENSITY IN THE LEGISLATION WE ARE SENDING DOWN? I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CE, WHAT THE DESIGN OF PLAN THAT WE TRIED TO BALANCE, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE OBLIGATED TO COMPLY WITH HB 1110 . THAT IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE. I THINK BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE PUGET SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL REQUIREMENTS FOR PROVIDING A FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY AND DIVIDING SOME RATIONALE AND BASIS FOR WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT GROWTH CAN AND SHOULD OCCUR AND TRYING TO THREAD THE NEEDLE BETWEEN THE PROPOSALS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, EXPANSION OF URBAN CENTERS, EXPANDED DENSITY A LONG CORRIDOR'S , TO DO THAT IN A SURGICAL SORT OF WAY AND TO BE INFORMED BY THE EXISTING FABRIC OF NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THAT WHAT WE ARE HEARING IS THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT WE GOT IT RIGHT AND SOME PEOPLE THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE. SOME PEOPLE THINK WE NEED TO DO LESS. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TAILOR OUR APPROACH AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE LEGISLATION. OBVIOUSLY, THE LEGISLATION WE WOULD BE GETTING IN MAY, RELATED TO THE CORE DOORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> IT IS FINE, FOR NOW. LET'S CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OFF-LINE. I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING HOW THE DEPARTMENT INTENDS -- THEY WILL SEE THAT DURING THE FINAL LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP BEING TRANSMITTED. IN ANY EVENT, MOVING ON. MY FINAL QUESTION PERTAINS TO MAILING MAILERS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE AND TARGETED OUTREACH AND EFFORTS TO REACH BROADER AUDIENCES, NOT JUST POLICY WANTS . WE TALKED ABOUT EARNED MEDIA, WHICH IS GREAT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS WITH EARNED MEDIA. I WANT TO TALK -- GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON MAILERS. WE HAVE ALL BEEN HEARING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, WHICH I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE FEEDBACK, THE TREMENDOUS FEEDBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM THE PUBLIC. VERY INSIGHTFUL, VERY EMPOWERING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. KEEP IT COMING. A FEW THINGS -- ONE SPECIFIC PIECE OF FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE HEARD A FEW TIMES NOW, IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WRITTEN COMMENT, AND I HAVE HEARD IT FROM A FEW OF MY CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT 1 AS WELL, IS THAT , PEOPLE WISH THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME SORT OF ORGANIZED MAILERS. THE CITY SHOULD HAVE SENT A MAILER THAT SAID, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUBJECT TO REZONE OR SOMETHING IN A CONSPICUOUS NOTICE, TYPE OF BOLD PRINT OF SOME SORT, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY INTERESTING IDEA. MAILERS ARE EXPENSIVE BUT DOING SOME SORT OF OUTREACH COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL. I GUESS, A TWO PART QUESTION. DID YOU DO ANY MAILERS AS PART OF THIS OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY WHATSOEVER? AND THEN, SECOND PART IS, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT IDEA OF ENGAGING IN MAILER TARGETED OUTREACH? >> TO THE FIRST QUESTION, NO, WE DID NOT DO ANY MAILERS. TO THE SECOND QUESTION, WHAT WE THINK ABOUT MAILERS, I THINK -- WOW. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS WHAT I THINK ABOUT MAILERS. I THINK THAT THE QUESTION IS, ARE MAILERS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO GET FOLKS ENGAGED? I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW WE WERE DOING, WHAT THE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR BUDGET WERE, WE DID RESEARCH ABOUT DOING A CITYWIDE MAILER AND AS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS, IT IS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO, WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE WOULD INVEST OUR DOLLARS IN THE OTHER FORMS OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID DO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY . BUT, I HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE SAME. I DID NOT GET ANYTHING IN MY SNAIL MAIL. I HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. NEXT, WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU, OPCD FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I AM GOING TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ADD MY VOICE FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE ABOUT MY FRUSTRATION ON THE LACK OF AND MORE OF INFORMATION THAT LED TO SO FEW COMMENTS IN THE SPRING VERSUS THE FALL. IN THE SPRING, YOU GOT ABOUT 1200, AS YOU STATED TODAY, PUBLIC COMMENTS. IN THE FALL, YOU GOT OVER 5000 AND I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED MORE INFORMATION TO CONSTITUENTS BASED ON FEEDBACK YOU RECEIVED FROM US AND PERHAPS SOME CONSTITUENTS AT THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS IN THE SPRING. THEY WERE NOT MAPPED BY WHICH PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE PROPOSALS WERE . DIRECTOR, YOU AND I HAVE CHATTED ABOUT THAT AND WE WERE TOGETHER AT THAT FALL SESSION WHERE FOLKS GAVE THAT FEEDBACK, AT THE POINT OF WHICH THOSE MAPS WERE RELEASED, THEN PEOPLE KNEW HOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE IMPACTED AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK. UNFORTUNATELY, THE FEEDBACK WAS TOO LATE TO INCORPORATE IN THE ACTUAL PLAN, WHICH I HAVE TO SAY, WHEN I GOT HERE IN JANUARY AND SHORTLY IN THE SPRING, WAS WHEN THE FIRST SET OF SESSIONS HAPPENED. EVEN I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE COMMUNITY DID NOT GET FEEDBACK IN THE SPRING, IT WOULD NOT BE INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN. IN FACT, YOUR TEAM TOLD ME THE OPPOSITE . THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND WE WOULD PUBLISH THE MAPS LATER. THAT IS TRUE, YOU PUBLISHED THE MAPS BUT IT WAS NOT ABOUT THE PLAN, IT WAS ABOUT THE ZONING PEACE. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY -- THAT FRUSTRATION YOU ARE HEARING IS BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING FRUSTRATION FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT, OR MANY OF US ARE, OR MANY OF US, IS THAT PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT THE PROCESS AND BY THE TIME THEY GET FEEDBACK, IT WAS TOO LATE TO INCORPORATE IN THE ACTUAL PLAN WHICH SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE WANTED RATHER THAN JUST AS PART OF THE CHANGES TO ZONING LEGISLATION. SO, THAT IS THE COMMENT I WILL MAKE ABOUT THAT. I WILL SAY, ALSO , THAT THE LACK OF BROAD ENGAGEMENT, I WAS ALSO TOLD BY OPCD TO TELL CONSTITUENTS TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO YOU ALL BY KNOWING THAT -- WHAT I KNOW NOW BACK IN THE SPRING, I WOULD HAVE ENGAGED IN A NUMBER OF PUBLIC SESSIONS. I WOULD HAVE INVITED OPCD TO SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN BROADER ENGAGEMENT. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU REACHED THESE 1200 COMMENTS ABOUT, AND THEN YOU HAD SOME COALITIONS WHO WROTE LETTERS AND MORE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROBABLY MORE ENGAGED IN THESE THINGS AS LOCAL PEOPLE , AS MY COLLEAGUES DESCRIBE. YOU MADE CHANGES TO THE PLAN BASED ON WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE LIMITED FEEDBACK. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I TALKED TO CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT 4, PEOPLE SUPPORT HE HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE KIDS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO COME BACK AND LIVE WHERE THEY GREW UP. THERE IS BROAD SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY. THE FRUSTRATION AROUND THIS OUTREACH PIECE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A LACK OF SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING. I WILL SAY THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND HB 1110, THE LAW OF THE LAND. I AM GOING TO BE DOING THAT. PEOPLE WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THE ADDITIONAL PIECE TO HB 1110 AND I THINK PEOPLE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING UNTIL MUCH LATER AND THEN THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS TOO LATE. IF THAT INFORMATION HAD COME EARLIER, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE GETTING AS MUCH FRUSTRATION, DEFINITELY FROM ME AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FROM MY CONSTITUENTS. THE FRUSTRATION I HAVE IS TRYING TO PASS ON THE INFORMATION I AM HEARING. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FELT THEY WERE IN A BETTER PLACE IF THEY HAD BEEN BROUGHT ALONG THROUGH THE PROCESS. THAT REALLY HAS BEEN THE SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION, NOT A LACK OF SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING. I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME PIECES, AND YOU HAVE NOTED, MICHAEL, WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THE SOURCES OF CONCERN RELATED TO TREES AND TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THEY ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE VERY MUCH CARE ABOUT. I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE NOTED IT HERE. MY BIG QUESTION IS , HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS -- THESE WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET THESE IN THE SPRING. IF YOU HAD RECEIVED THIS AND PUT IN THE SPRING, PERHAPS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME CHANGES IN THE PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THESE CONCERNS. NOW, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. WE CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME. WE HAVE HEARD HIM COLLEAGUES ASKING HOW YOU WILL INCORPORATE THESE CONCERNS AS PART OF THE ZONING CHANGES THAT YOU WILL BE SENDING DOWNSTAIRS. DIRECTOR, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU COULD STILL INCORPORATE -- WE ARE NOT AS FAR ALONG WITH THE DRAFT PLAN. WE WILL BE USING INFORMATION TO INFORM CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS BECAUSE IF A PLAN GETS APPEALED, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCORPORATE CHANGES TO THE PLAN OR IF YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE COUNCIL CAN AMEND THE PLAN OR IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE ZONING LEGISLATION. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHEN YOU SAY CHANGES, WHAT YOU MEAN EXACTLY, FOR CLARITY. >> SURE. WE ARE WORKING ON CHANGES RELATED TO PHASE -- WE ARE NOT CALLING IT BASIS ANYMORE. SORRY. RELATED TO THE CORRIDORS AND CENTERS LEGISLATION. THAT IS THE LEGISLATION IN MAY. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON CHANGES TO THE PLAN ITSELF, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN TRANSMITTED , NOT THE ADOPTED LEGISLATION, THOUGH WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. I GUESS -- DOES THAT HELP? >> YES. SO, THE PLAN YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE CHANGES TO. THE PLAN IS WHAT IT IS. THE ZONING LEGISLATION, YOU ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK YOU HEARD INTO THE ZONING LEGISLATION THAT YOU SENT OUT. CORRECT? >> YES. I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL , I THINK WE ARE SO OF THE MINDSET THAT, IN YOUR CONVERSATION WITH US, THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES TO THE PLAN THAT IS NOW IN YOUR HANDS. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP AS IT RELATES TO YOUR ANALYSIS OF THOSE, THE HIGH LEVEL POLICY WORK THAT HAS BEEN THE PLAN ALSO. WE ARE NOT CHANGING THAT TEXT LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WORK ON. >> I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THIS. THE RANGE OF CONCERN AND ISSUES THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, THAT RANGE OF ISSUES I WOULD SAY, PRIMARILY CAN BE ADDRESSED AND WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE ZONING LEGISLATION. THESE ARE A LOT OF VERY PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT RELATE TO THE OUTCOMES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE SHAPED BY ZONING. HOUSE BILL 1110 ZONING, THE OTHER LEGISLATION ON ZONING , THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WHERE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AS A COUNCIL AND OFFERING AN AMENDMENT , BUT THAT LEGISLATION WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON EVERYTHING FROM TREES TO PARKING TO OTHER ISSUES. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A HIGHER LEVEL POLICY DOCUMENT AND EVEN WHERE THERE U CONSIDERING BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE COMP PLAN, THERE IS LATITUDE IN THE DIRECTION ON ZONING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TAILORING EVEN THE BOUNDARIES YOU SEE ON THE GROWTH STRATEGY. REBUILT IN SOME FLEXIBILITIES SO YOU COULD CONSIDER THE MORE DETAILED PROPOSAL IN THE ZONING LEGISLATION TO RESPOND ESPECIALLY TO THE GRANULAR COMMENTS YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. I WILL SAY THAT THE COMP PLAN, IT IS A POLICY DOCUMENT AND IT DOES STATE VERY CLEARLY WHAT WE WILL BE DOING. IN AS FAR AS IT IS THAT BROADER POLICY THING, CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED THAT THESE CONCERNS, LIKE TREES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION WERE NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN THE SPAN THAT IS THE ROADMAP FOR HOW WE WILL BE DOING ZONING LEGISLATION. I THINK CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE CHANGES AT THE POINT OF WHERE YOU ARE DOING THE ZONING LEGISLATION. THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN IN THE PLAN SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY THEN FEEL LIKE IF IT IS NOT IN THE PLAN, WHICH I KNOW GETS UPDATED EVERY 10 YEARS, THERE IS A DISCOMFORT IN KNOWING THAT THERE ARE THINGS IN THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS WITH . IF WE HAD STARTED THIS PROCESS EARLIER, AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU MIGHT HAVE INCORPORATED SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE TREES OR TRANSPORTATION IN THE PLAN BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED ON THE BACK END WITH THE ZONING LEGISLATION BUT FOLKS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE TWEAKS MADE TO THE PLAN THAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH A BALANCED APPROACH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN. I THINK THAT IS FAIR, FOR CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE EXPECTED THAT. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. OBVIOUSLY IN THE PLAN, THERE ARE NUMEROUS POLICIES BOTH RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED TO TREES. I THINK WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT THERE IS AN INTEREST BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO MODIFY SOME OF THAT POLICY LANGUAGE. I THINK BEFORE THE PLAN IS ADOPTED, BECAUSE IT ISN'T ADOPTED, I THINK THERE IS STILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE OTHER CHANGES. >> CORRECT BUT THAT WOULD BE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. YOU GUYS NEED TO DO THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THOSE CHANGES WERE INCORPORATED BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE THE BROAD COMMENTS IN THE SPRING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES BEFORE YOU SEND IT TO US. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THAT IS WHAT FOLKS ARE VERY FRUSTRATED BY. THEY DID NOT FEEL LIKE ENGAGEMENT WAS EARLY AND ROBUST, BROADLY AND ONLY SOME VOICES GOT HEARD. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR . THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWERING OUR TOUGH QUESTIONS. SO, LET ME JUST TRY TO NAIL YOU DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT OF CAREFUL PARSING OF ANSWERS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND YOU ANSWER TO A PARTICULAR DIFFERENT AUTHORITY THAN THE COUNCIL BUT THAT SAID, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY -- THIS IS RELATING TO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, WHICH I WILL NOTE, HB 1110 DOES NOT REQUIRE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. >> CORRECT. >> I WILL ALSO NOTE THATPROPOSE DISTRICT 5, TWO OF WHICH SEEM FINE AND A THIRD WAS CONTEMPLATED AND WAS NOT PUT IN. I DON'T ENTIRELY KNOW WHY. I THINK THAT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT INCLUDING IT. THAT SAID, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED SINCE THE FALL CAN NOW BE UTILIZED TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU SEND DOWN TO REMOVE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS DESIGNATION, SPECIFICALLY LIKE MAPLELEAF? CAN YOU -- IN THE LEGISLATION YOU ARE SENDING DOWN, CAN YOU REMOVE THAT DESIGNATION? CAN YOU REMOVE THE MADRONA DESIGNATION? >> WE ARE NOT REMOVING ANY OF THE DESIGNATIONS. >> OKAY. YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY UTILIZING ANY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IS PROPOSED. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU ARE LEAVING THAT TO COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH? >> I WOULD SAY, WHILE WE ARE NOT REMOVING ANY OF THE DESIGNATIONS, WE ARE STILL IN THE ACTIVE PROCESS OF ANALYSIS AND CONSIDERATION RELATED TO THE ZONING WITHIN THE DESIGNATION. >> RIGHT. WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. WHY WOULD YOU BOTHER DESIGNATING IT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IF YOU ARE THEN GOING TO ZONE IT DOWN? WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THAT WE DESIGNATED A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND THEN 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT DOESN'T GET FULLY BUILT UP AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND WE CHANGE THE ZONING? TO ME, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO DESIGNATE SOMETHING A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER WHICH HAS A PARTICULAR -- THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT NEED TO EXIST FOR SOMETHING TO BE DESIGNATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND THEN TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO BRING IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE PALATABLE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT. WHY NOT JUST REMOVE THE DESIGNATION? >> SORRY, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DESIGNATION DOESN'T DESIGNATE WHAT THE LEVEL OF DENSITY IS WITHIN THE CENTER ITSELF. I THINK WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN THE PAST. ALL NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE NOT EQUAL FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, LIKE, WHAT IS THERE PRE-EXISTING, WHAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING AREA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW BUT WE CAN GET IT TO YOU. THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT WERE USED TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE CENTERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED WITHIN THE EIF AND THEN THE ONES THAT WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN. THE REASON I REFER TO THE CONTEMPLATION OF ZONING WITHIN THE CENTERS, THAT ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF DENSITY OR CAPACITY FOR GROWTH BEYOND WHAT IS IDENTIFIED IN HB 1110 , THE INTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT EXISTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY AND SUGGEST THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH TO BUILD ON WHAT IS THERE TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS HELPFUL. >> ACTUALLY, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING YOU HAVE PRESENTED THAT THE BASE -- ONE OF THE REASONS YOU WERE PURSUING NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WERE SO YOU COULD BUILD FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS AND THAT THE ZONING -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IS WHAT DRIVES THE ZONING AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE AND SIX. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THREE AND FOUR. WHAT I AM HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE. YOU GIVE US THE DESIGNATION AND WE WILL NEGOTIATE THE HEIGHT. MY POSITION IS, WHY BOTHER NEGOTIATING THE HEIGHT? I THINK, DOWN THE ROAD, WE ARE LOOKING AT KEEPING THE DOOR OPEN TO PUTTING UP FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE ZONED IT AWAY. THAT IS NOT A SUFFICIENT RESPONSE. SECONDLY, I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT TREES? THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS, EVEN FROM THE SCREEN, ABOUT TREES AND I DON'T SEE ANY KIND OF SPECIFIC POLICY OR STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH TREES. SIMPLY SAYING WE ARE GOING TO PUT TREES IN THE PARKING STRIPS IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE PARKING, FOR ONE THING. ALSO, AS WE SEE IN THE BEACON HILL WHERE THEY JUST HAD TO TAKE HIM 30 OR 40 TREES IN ORDER TO REDO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM THERE , THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO PRESERVE TREES. WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOU TAKING ALL OF THIS VERY, VERY CONCENTRATED AND -- I WOULD SAY -- ACROSS THE CITY COMMENTS ABOUT TRULY, TRULY PRESERVING TREE CANOPY. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT REPLACING A 50 OR 100 YEAR OLD TREE WITH THREE SAPLINGS. THAT IS NOT COMPARABLE. WHERE IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE LEGISLATION THAT COMES DOWN TO US IN MAY? >> THE ANSWER, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE IN THE LEGISLATION IN MAY, I AM NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> SO RIGHT NOW -- OBVIOUSLY, I TAKE FROM THAT ANSWER THAT THERE IS NO INTENT TO ADDRESS THE TRUE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED ACROSS THE CITY ABOUT TREES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS -- >> COUNCILMEMBER, I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. I DO WANT TO -- WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THE COMMENTS ON TREES, SOME OF WHICH PERTAIN TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SOME OF THEM PERTAIN TO THE ZONING PROPOSAL. SOME OF THEM PERTAIN TO THE CITY'S TREE ORDINANCE. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE AWARE BUT THE TREES ARE VERY MULTIFACETED ISSUE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, TO CONSIDER HOW WE COULD BRING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT TREES AND HOW THAT INTERSECTS WAS THE COMP PLAN AND STRATEGY AT A LATER MEETING. DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO SIDESTEP THAT AT ALL. WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE COULD COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. IT SEEMS A LITTLE LATE IN THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS BUT NONETHELESS, LATER IS BETTER THAN NEVER SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO FEEL LIKE THE ATTEMPTS TO ACCOMMODATE A GREATER VARIETY OF TOPOLOGY IS NOT BEING APPROPRIATELY DEALT WITH. WE NEED TO BE DEALING WITH INCLUDING COURTYARD COTTAGES. WE NEED TO -- I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT THE FAR WILL INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD STACK FLATS, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF HOW THAT WILL ACTUALLY WORK. THEN, TOO AM A COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE'S COMMENT, I AM NOT READY TO VOTE ON THIS. THIS IS PREMATURE . WE'VE GOT TO VOTE ON 11-10 AND I THINK THAT IS ABLE TO MAKE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES WHICH IS A CRISIS IN THIS CITY. SIMPLY BUILDING MORE RENTAL HOUSING FOR PRIVATE EQUITY TO OWN IS NOT THE ANSWER. WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES DEALING WITH THAT IN OLYMPIA. ANYWAY, THAT IS A SEPARATE PIECE HERE, THIS IDEA THAT WE WILL SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS FOR RENTERS BY JUST BUILDING A LOT OF HOUSING. IF IT IS PRIVATE EQUITY THAT IS OWNING IT AND THEY GET AN EXEMPTION FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IN 10 YEARS, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET STABILIZED RENT SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. BASICALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA , THIS PUBLIC PROCESS -- PLEASE, LET'S NOT REPEAT THIS NEXT TIME. LET'S DO A BETTER JOB. WE WERE ABLE TO GET A FLYER ABOUT THE INITIATIVE 1 B. I AM ASSUMING SOME OF THAT WAS PRIVATE MONEY. IF WE CAN SEND OUT A FLYER ABOUT AN INITIATIVE ON SOCIAL HOUSING, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT A FLYER ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS GOING TO COMPLETELY REMAKE THE WAY THIS CITY LOOKS FOR THE NEXT 10 AND 20 YEARS. NOT ONLY LOOKS BUT OPERATES. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING PARKING, WHICH, WE NEED TO REMOVE PARKING BUT THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE CITY. WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF BRINGING IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND I THINK THE VERY FACT -- MY TAKE AWAY IS THAT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MANAGED TO GET BROADER ENGAGEMENT, YOU ACTUALLY FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOT LESS BUY INTO THE PLAN THAT HAD BEEN PUT FORTH. WHAT TROUBLES ME IS THAT WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE WAS LESS BUY IN FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE GROUND, THERE IS STILL NO WILLINGNESS TO TRULY ENGAGE AND REFASHION THIS. THAT WORK IS BEING PUT IN OUR LAPS AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE. IT ALSO PITS NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR, COUNCILMEMBER AGAINST COUNCILMEMBER. IT IS NOT A ONE SEATTLE APPROACH. PLEASE DO A BETTER JOB NEXT TIME. I DO NOT WANT TO BE RUSHING THROUGH THIS. WE HAVE A DEAL WITH 11-10, ABSOLUTELY BUT, PLEASE, LET US HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY TRULY LOOKS LIKE WHAT IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE AND TRULY HAS AFFORDABILITY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE, HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH THE MASTER BUILDERS ASSOCIATION? HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND COMING UP WITH -- BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM AND ALSO JUST ALLOWING -- OPENING THE FLOODGATES TO THE UNLIMITED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. I SEE THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON . YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN YET. I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK BUT IF NOT, NO WORRIES. I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD GO FORWARD. >> WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE ABOUT ONE HOUR AND 45 MINUTES AND ENDS IS SCHEDULED FOR TWO HOURS SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> JUST A QUICK COMMENT , CONVERSELY, IF YOU HAD DONE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, TRULY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO RESIDENCE BROADLY, EARLY ON, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF A PLAN THAT WAS REALLY A ONE SEATTLE APPROACH. IF THEY HAD THE INFORMATION EARLY AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO THE PLAN EARLY, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE SEEN SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS ANYWAY BUT PEOPLE FELT LIKE IT WAS A VERY BACKHANDED WAY OF DOING IT AND I NEVER WANT TO BE IN THAT SPACE. I WANT TO BE IN THE SPACE WHERE WE ARE BRINGING FOLKS ALONG, NOT WHERE PEOPLE ARE FEELING LIKE THEY WERE NOT GIVEN CONSIDERATION AND THEY WERE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY TWEAKS OF ANY KIND THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM. I SAY CONVERSELY, IF YOU HAD GIVEN THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY, THEY WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED SOME OF THIS STUFF WITH MAYBE SOME MINOR TWEAKS. I HAD THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS FROM FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT. I THINK IT IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE ON BOARD AND REALLY GET SOME OF THESE ISSUES ADDRESSED THAT WE ALL SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH. I HAD A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT I DID NOT END ON IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHICH WAS -- MY COMMENTS WERE REALLY, OUTREACH IS NEVER REALLY DONE, OUTREACH IS NOT DONE, OUTREACH IS A CIRCULAR LOOP WHERE IT IS NOT JUST HEARING FROM PEOPLE, IT IS MAKING A CHOICE AND THEN FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM AS WELL. IN MY OWN PERSONAL AS DISTRICT 6 REPRESENTATIVE, I HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS TO COLLEAGUES AND I AM SAYING IT AGAIN ON THE RECORD, I AM GOING TO BE GOING OUT AND WALKING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WITH RESIDENTS. I AM TAKING OFFICE HOURS. I HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO MEET WITH ME ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY WEEK IN MY OFFICE HOURS, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE OFFICE HOURS APPOINTMENTS IN A ROW ABOUT IT. FOR ME, OUTREACH IS NOT DONE. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND ALSO, I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR MAYOR'S OFFICE AND OPCD. I THOUGHT THIS WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION TO HAVE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, HOW COMMENTS WERE BEING INCORPORATED, WHO WAS AT THE TABLE, WHO IS NOT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS RECEIVED, AND ALSO THE METHOD. THE METHODOLOGY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ABOUT HOW WE ARE RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM FOLKS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE -- I WANT TO THANK THE DIRECTOR WHO WILL JOIN ME WITH SOME MEETINGS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU OPENING UP YOUR SCHEDULE TO MEET WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE -- DID COMMENTS OR BEFORE, WE ARE TRYING TO MEET WITH EVERYONE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM DISTRICT 3 AND IN OTHER DISTRICTS IS THAT PEOPLE WANT DENSITY TO EQUAL AFFORDABILITY AND SOMETIMES THAT HAS NOT MATCHED UP. WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ABOUT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO GROW AND LIVE HERE IN THE CITY. IT IS NOT ONE OR THE OTHER. I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE THINK IT IS US VERSUS THEM. NOBODY IS TRYING TO FIGHT. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET ALONG IN THE CITY. WE ARE DONE FIGHTING. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANT TO FIGHT AND THAT IS FINE BUT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET ALONG AND MOVE FORWARD AND NOT FEEL RUSHED. I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FLAT STACKS, WANTING THAT, FAMILY HOUSING. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ONE-BEDROOMS AND A LOT OF STUDIOS IN SEATTLE AND PEOPLE WANT TWO OR THREE BEDROOMS. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN SEATTLE TO CREATE THAT BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH SO FAR IN THE CITY AND I KNOW THAT IT IS NEVER ENOUGH. TO DOUBLE DOWN ON COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS ' COMMENT, OUTREACH IS CONSISTENT AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE OUTREACHING TO US BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO OUTREACH TO US, THE FRONT PORCH OF CITY HALL IS WHAT I LIKE TO CALL THE CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE SEE IN THE FIRST DOORBELL THAT PEOPLE RING, WHICH IS FINE. SO, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS UP HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, THAT IT IS NOT JUST THE POLITICAL VOICES THAT ARE THE ONES CARRYING CONVERSATIONS, THAT THIS IS FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT THIS IS BIRTHED FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THIS AND ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS. PEOPLE, ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE -- THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR US TO LISTEN TO AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FROM OUR COUNCILMEMBERS AND MY COLLEAGUES, SOME OF THOSE FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING THE BRUNT OF IT IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO US ON THE BUS AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO US ON THE SIDEWALK AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO US IN CHURCH AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO ME IN THE GROCERY LINE AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO ME RIGHT AT MY HOUSE AS THEY'RE WALKING BY, TELLING ME ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, I CAN TELL YOU ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH I AM ACCESSIBLE AND HOW PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT. OKAY? COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? >> I WILL ADD TO THAT, BACKYARD FIRES. >> BACKYARD FIRES. AND, PEOPLE CALLING THE MOTHER AND TELLING ME ABOUT THAT. COULD YOU IMAGINE A PHONE CALL FROM YOUR MOTHER ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS? ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE BEYOND CITY HALL, NOT JUST THROUGH EMAILS . WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS. CITY COUNCIL IS OUR LIFE. YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE THAT HAT OFF AND LEAVE IT AT THE SECOND FLOOR. YOU LITERALLY HAVE IT EVERYWHERE YOU GO IN LIFE AND THAT IS WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. WE ARE MADE FOR IT SO I WELCOME IT BUT IT IS HERE. ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS AT ALL ABOUT THE FEEDBACK BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD CLOSE WITH IS, I AGREE 100%. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DOES NOT HAVE AN AND APOSTATE. IT IS ONGOING. THAT IS WHY I AM MAKING MYSELF AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE WITH THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS. I WANT TO BE A RESOURCE FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR OUR OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU AS YOU LOOK AT ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ME. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM ENGAGED, I HAVE BEEN LISTENING AND I AGREE WITH WHAT MOST HAS BEEN SAID FROM MY COLLEAGUES REGARDING ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY REGARDING PRESERVING OUR TREE CANOPY, INCREASING OUR TREE CANOPY. HER CONSTITUENTS ARE REACHING OUT. THEY HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN HEARD, WHETHER THEIR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND I AM LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BALANCE DEVELOPMENT WITH PRESERVING TREES. I AM ALSO MINDFUL THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL HAVE AFFORDABILITY. I DEFINITELY WANT US TO HAVE AFFORDABILITY AS WELL AS INCREASING OUR HOUSING STOCK. AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, ABOUT FAMILY HOUSING. THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING FAMILY HOUSING SO THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS , THE POSSIBILITY OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH THROUGH PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE POST IN MY NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISTRICT TO DIG. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND I WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU TO THE GENTLEMAN FOR THEIR PRESENTATION TODAY AND THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE PROVIDED. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH SO PEOPLE ARE INFORMED. WE WERE LOOKING AT THINGS AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL. IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT WHEN IT IS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING ON YOUR BLOCK. THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE ENGAGED IN HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THEY CAN DEFINITELY FEEL HEARD. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, SOLOMON. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I DO SEE TWO HANDS. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, I AM ASSUMING THOSE ARE OLD HANDS. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, YOU JUST RAISED YOUR HAND . YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> CAN YOIN YOUR COMMENTS, YOU THE CHANGE FROM THE FIRST DRAFT PLAN TO THE SECOND PLAN THAT IS NOW BEFORE US AND YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS THE DECISION TO APPLY HB 1110 ACROSS THE BOARD EVENLY. THE PLAN FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT CARVEOUT, SO TO SPEAK, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WORD YOU USED THAT, WHEN YOU DECIDED AGAINST GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THE DELTA IN UNITS OF HOUSING ? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST ONE AND THE SECOND ONE? NOT ALL OVER THE CITY BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA YOU WERE LOOKING? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I DON'T RECALL THAT WE DID RIGOROUS ANALYSIS OF THAT. WE DID RELEASE MAPS BUT DURING THE SPRING OF 2020 FOR, IT SHOWS THE AREAS WHERE IT WOULD BE APPLIED. IT IS A RELATIVELY LIMITED AREA OF THE CITY, NOT INSIGNIFICANT BUT IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE 10% TO 15% RANGE OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT WOULD NOT BE A LOT OF UNITS BECAUSE CERTAIN ANALYSIS, WE COULD CERTAINLY, THEORETICALLY DO THAT. >> I AM NOT PUTTING MORE WORK ON YOUR PLATE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE HANDS . THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THERE IS NO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER BUSINESS COMING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. I AM GOING TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE. I JUST SAW AN ARTICLE, UNFORTUNATELY, SHOWING BROTHERS FROM WILD ROSE, WHO IS ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS, UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY. WILD ROSE IS A STAPLE IN NIGHTLIFE, OBVIOUSLY ON CAPITOL HILL AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR AND WHAT IT MEANS. IT IS JUST UNFORTUNATE. SENDING THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO THE PARTNERS AND FAMILY DURING THIS HARD TIME. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE HURTING RIGHT NOW ON CAPITOL HILL AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE MEETING. IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS CONCLUDES THE FEBRUARY 5 MEETING FOR THE SELECT COMMITTEE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WILL SEE EVERYONE BACK HERE AT 5:00 SHARP FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY 12:56. THANK YOU.