This transcript is for a Planning Commission meeting, so the primary speakers are the Planning Commissioners and City Staff. Based on the dialogue, the "Chair" is **Chair Zimmer**. [0:53] **Chair Zimmer**: Good evening. I'd like to call the September 18th, 2025 planning commission meeting to order. I'd ask you to stand and say the pledge of allegiance. [1:23] **Ms. Ericson**: Thank you. Uh, Ms. Ericson, will you please take a role? here. >> Travis >> here. >> Here. >> Zimmer >> here. >> Duckworth >> here. Spencer >> here. **Chair Zimmer**: Next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes. Do we have any changes to September 4th planning commission minutes? Another good job by Miss Ericson. We'll let those stand. Uh, do we have any announcements from our planning manager, Jensen? [1:55] **Planning Manager Jensen**: Not this evening, Chair Zimmer. **Chair Zimmer**: All right. The first or excuse me, item five on the agenda is um consideration of the 2026 2030 capital improvement plan. And Zach Johnson, our city engineer, is presenting. [2:16] **Zach Johnson**: Thank you so much. Good evening, Madam Chair, planning commission members. Uh tonight I am here to present the uh draft capital improvement plan for your review. Uh just a brief update of what it is. It's really a guide that's used by city staff and officials to keep us running well today and also help us prepare to future. Uh we use this CIP to identify kind of the seven core essential services and infrastructure that help keep our community growing which is transportation, utilities, parks and recre parks and recreation, environmental resources, technology, equipment and facilities. Uh tonight I'll be highlighting a few of the projects. It's not all-encompassing. Uh there's quite a bit in there. Um but did at least highlight some of the few [3:02] elements. Uh walk you through that. I just want to remind you it's not a public hearing today, but uh before you today is a request for you to consider the CIP and uh make sure it's in conformance with our comprehensive plan. So with that, I'll just kind of start and highlight a few things. We'll start with transportation. [3:22] **Zach Johnson**: Uh in the CIP we have our payment management program which is uh we address annual local and collector road rehabilitation reconstruction. Uh you'll see on this map I think does a really nice job of highlighting how uh our improvements are really spread out citywide and it's staged uh so that we tried to take into u consideration some construction fatigue that our residents and businesses might have. Uh but we have next year's program project which is judicial road along the west side of the city and then you'll see here that's kind of colorcoded a number improvements that are highlighted uh for the next uh four years subsequent to that. Please note that this is a living document so it can change year to year based upon priorities and needs and um also other [4:09] environmental considerations. We also have the freight rail car storage facility. Uh city is working with some stakeholders on constructing a 225 car track uh for storage. Uh this would eliminate storage of the uh track the cars on County Road 50 and move that back into the industrial park. [4:33] **Zach Johnson**: We also are working with the count county to make some improvements to the county road 1560 roundabout. Uh we're proposing some payment markings and some signage to assist and uh and what we hope will uh provide some crash reduction benefits. We're trying to get that done yet this year. Um but it may creep in a little bit into next spring. [4:57] **Zach Johnson**: Uh an economic development project uh 215th Street down in the southwest corner of the city. We are proposing to extend public utilities, sewer, water, and storm. And then also to upgrade the road in anticipation of industrial development here uh along Conro 70 to 215th Street. [5:18] **Zach Johnson**: We uh continue to see growth. So with that, we need to expand some of our county highways in partnership with our county partner. Uh, this project here includes modernizing Dodd Boulevard between 50 and 210th Street. With that, it would become what we call a two-lane divided roadway with turn lanes at the intersections. Uh, integral elements of this included an underpass for the Lake Marian Greenway as well as trails along both sides and potentially some upgrades or enhancements to the Dodd Boulevard County Road 50 intersection. Uh, you do see a roundabout there. uh you are aware that today it's a traffic signal. Just want to preface that and no decision has been made yet. So just take that in consideration. We put the date up there too as well to to demonstrate that we're [6:03] still working on that. Subsequent to that the following year in 2028. Uh it's a typo, sorry. Uh would be expanding that to the south so that we'd finish that last gap uh between 210th Street and 215th Street. similar process tooling divided roadway with trails along both sides. [6:27] **Zach Johnson**: Uh one of the projects that uh is the pri what the project that's priority for city council is the cotton road 50 and interstate 35 interchange improvements. Uh what you'll see in this exhibit in the picture is what's called a diverging diamond interchange. Uh unique to Lakeville but certainly not to the state, but uh this would address uh improvements at this interchange. uh we've got some safety issues, some capacity issues. So, this project here would address both of those, and then also improve pedestrian connectivity as well. Uh right now, we are still on schedule to begin construction in 2028. [7:04] **Zach Johnson**: We do anticipate this being a two-year project as well. Uh there are a number of stakeholder opportunities where it'll be a strong public engagement effort here uh probably beginning in the spring. That's another picture of it. Gives you kind of an aerial view of some of the side streets and some of the connections there as well. In 2029, we have program the Holio Avenue modernization. That's from here, City Hall, moving up to 190th Street. [7:35] **Zach Johnson**: Again, just kind of uh catching up with development, modernizing the roadway, um putting in an underpass at 184 Street as we continue to emphasize and focus our our multimodal elements with pedestrians and bicyclists. [7:52] **Zach Johnson**: Uh another one, this is the best graphic I had for you today. I apologize. Um but, uh we are also working with the county to uh improve intersections on Dodd Boulevard at 190th Street and 194th Street. Uh at 194th, uh a roundabout is proposed uh to facilitate full access movements. And then at 190th Street, we would uh put in what's called the directional access median, uh which would be a three/arter access, which means you can take lefts off of the roadway, off of DOT, but not onto DOT. [8:22] **Zach Johnson**: And again, that's 2029, so planning would start in a couple years on that. You'll see we have eight different traffic signals. Uh I broke them into two categories to preface uh that the ones that you see in gold the bronze there in 26 and 27 those are deliberate and part of a mitigation effort uh with that interchange project in 2028. We do anticipate quite a different quite a few impacts and so we're trying to preempt that and get in front of that by um putting in new traffic signals or intersection control things. So you'll see that Kenwood Trail and Kenyon Avenue is new. on 79th Street and Glacier Way is new. Uh Pilot Knob is existing, but then the Orchard Trail, one on Country Road 60, is also new. The ones that you [9:07] see in blue then are uh the first three at least are replacements for traffic signals that have reached the end of their useful life, heavy transportation. But uh we'll move on to parks and recreation. Uh couple key projects that you'll see there is continuation of our North Creek Greenway and East Community Park. If you've driven through there this summer, you've seen we've made some enhancements to the park as well as improve the pedestrian crossing of 170th Street. This would expand that and then continue the trails to 46 and then also finish off the Greenway Park. [9:42] **Zach Johnson**: And then likewise, we have our Lake Marian Greenway and Ritter Farm Park trail head uh that comes that would make a connection basically from downtown working northway north and west over to Ritter Farm Park as well. This one is going to be broken into two phases. Uh the first is that trail connection I talked about. The second then is we'll do some way finding and some enhancements in downtown to make a connection from the trail head over to Holy Oak Avenue. [10:10] **Zach Johnson**: And with the development that you've seen, we have a number of neighborhood parks that are programmed over the next five years. Moving on to utilities, uh with continued growth comes uh additional demands for our water supply system. Uh we have the maintenance of our existing system which is in 2026 the Dakota Heights water tower requires a repaint. [10:33] **Zach Johnson**: And then as we anticipate growth, we plan ahead for additional water supply needs. So we do have two wells programmed for construction in 2028 and that is subject to growth. Facilities, uh we have a couple things. Uh the first center is under construction now um and it's making good progress scheduled to open in 2026. [10:56] **Zach Johnson**: We have the central maintenance facility uh program for expansion 27. We also have the water treatment facility proposed for expansion in 2027. And then the one photo I don't have is uh the fire station 5 construction that's proposed to start next year in 2026. Uh that's basically at the corner of uh Dodd Boulevard and Cedar Avenue. [11:20] **Zach Johnson**: Environmental resources, we have a number of things that keep our uh the the aesthetic elements of our community strong. Uh we have our lake management every year. We also have public land vegetation, our prairies, our woodlands, other assets, rain gardens. [11:38] **Zach Johnson**: We have our water conservation efforts in relation to uh irrigation and uh reducing that demand, forestry and maintaining our woodland assets. And then lastly, we have the equipment and technology that we use to maintain our existing infrastructure uh and then also for all our equipment and technology needs to keep all our departments running smoothly and efficiently. So with that, that's a brief look at about nine months of preparation uh in a real short little synopsis there. So uh if you do have questions, certainly would be happy to answer them. [12:19] **Chair Zimmer**: Commissioners, I'm not sure if you have any questions, but I would like to say I went through that huge detailed document. Really impressive to see all the work that staff has done. Commissioner Kuza. **Commissioner Kuza**: Madam Chair, I' I'd echo that. I I know that there are a lot of really big projects in here that are going to keep the city engineering staff busy that have been, you know, taken years and years to to get to the point where they're at. And so commend Mr. Johnson and staff for all the work they put into this. I'm really excited to have a lot of these things go forward. And um I'm ready to make a motion unless anyone comments. Commissioner Swenson. [13:00] **Commissioner Swenson**: Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, comments and question actually too. Uh, one of the projects you highlighted was Judicial Road. I'm just kind of curious since that lies on the city boundary. Is there any kind of cost share with our neighboring city or anything like that to that project? **Zach Johnson**: Yeah, Commissioner Swenson, that's that's a great question. Uh, yes, we do share the cost of that project 50/50. We do have a number of JPAs or joint parts organiz uh agreements with our our neighboring communities. That is one example where if we share an asset, we do share the cost of maintaining it. Uh it'd be a pavement preservation project. So mill and overlay, no expansions or curbing gut or anything. [13:35] **Commissioner Swenson**: Excellent. Thank you. Um if I may continue um was just going to mention any vote or anything we take on this. I am an employee [of] MnDOT who is a partner in the county road 50 project. Um I don't have any decision-making authority or anything related to that project. I have no conflict of interest in voting on this. Point that out. Um, last one was just a an observation. Um, it's great we're doing all these projects and all these things are happening in our community. Many of them are desperately needed. Uh, I think of a lot of this stuff is is things that people don't think about until it doesn't work, it breaks. Um, we take for granted that we have running water, we flush our toilet, the water goes away, all those kinds of things. So, it's important that all these things get done, but it all comes at a cost. And with all these projects, um just note that the uh the debt level that the city is taking on with us, it's [14:21] going to increase fairly substantially, 50% in three years, um from our current level. So just an observation, not really commenting any further on that other than noting it costs a lot of money to do these this type of work. **Zach Johnson**: Backbone work. [14:37] **Chair Zimmer**: Madam Chair, Commissioner Travis. [15:07] **Commissioner Travis**: um I I I agree with what [was] said very specific yet clear and concise. a great piece of work. The question I have is about uh water uh you know I new wells two wells um you know expansion of the water treat how does the city assess the groundwater supply in general uh when a new well or an expansion of water treatment facility is considered. [15:07] **Zach Johnson**: Commissioner Travis, great question. Uh we do have a model that we use that projects our growth and our demand as well. Any kind of well we have to do we go goes through permitting through the state. Uh they are very careful and analytic in their evaluation of our need. Uh and we do try to plan ahead of it. Uh there isn't it's not one of those things where you get surplus of it. So it's very exact and oftentimes with our water conservation efforts these wells get pushed back. um if you've seen and and with the weather you've seen like this year our demand has been quite a bit lower than what we see at our peak in strong consideration because of the weather. So uh when we approach that need where we we see that uh our volumes are such that we need to have additional water supply and additional wells then [15:54] we coordinate that effort and it takes some time uh with the state to get that through but that's just a projection based on anticipated growth. Uh we just complete we're just completing a well on 190 street east of Dodd. Um and that one took quite a few years to plan as well. [16:09] **Commissioner Travis**: So thank you. **Chair Zimmer**: Other comments, Mr. Kuza. **Commissioner Kuza**: Madam Chair, uh I move to recommend to city council uh the 2026 to 2030 capital improvement plan as presented finding that is consistent with the city's 2040 comp plan. **Commissioner Swenson**: Second. [16:31] **Chair Zimmer**: We have a motion and a second. Uh, Miss Ericson, take a roll, please. **Ms. Ericson**: Travis [I], Kuza [I], Zimmer [I], Duckworth [I], Swenson [I], Tinsley [I]. [16:47] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you very much. Appreciate your work, Mr. Johnson. A good presentation. Uh, the next item on the agenda is a public hearing. uh the North Creek second edition. However, that is to be tabled, my understanding. So, uh we'll just uh table that one um to the October 2nd, 2025 planning commission meeting. So, I need a motion to table. Sorry. [17:11] **Commissioner Kuza**: Madam Chair. I move to recommend to table the North Creek second edition preliminary plat of 47 single family residential lots to the October 2nd, 2025 planning commission meeting. **Commissioner Travis**: Second. [17:29] **Chair Zimmer**: We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say I. **Commissioners**: I. **Chair Zimmer**: Uh any opposed? Motion prevails. Thank you. I rushed that one. Um the second uh public hearing and I would encourage anyone that wishes to speak to please sign up in the back of the room uh in order to participate. We need to have you written down and then we'll have you come up to testify unless you're the presenter. Um so the Chart House is next on the agenda. Consideration of application George Maverick Chart House for conditional use permit to exceed impervious surface on the shoreland overlay district and a variance from the required setback from Kingsley Lake located at 1127 Clamoth Trail. And here to present uh on the project is George Maverick. [18:24] **Chair Zimmer**: Maverick, please come up and state your name for the record. **George Maverick**: George Maverick, owner of the Chart House. Thank you, Madam Chair, planning commission members. Thank you for having me tonight and staff as well. Very helpful. Heather, um I'm hoping you can um allow us to continue forward. We'd like to uh expand a little bit our patio bar [18:41] because right now it's a small 1,600 foot building where everybody's kind of hanging outside and gets rained on on a day like today. We'd like to um take it down and put a 2,800 square foot building. So we'd have 1,200 square ft of additional impervious surface and we're already a little bit past what it's allowed the 25% because most of our property of the 23 acres 17 are water. So, we're kind of struggling a little bit and the setbacks are very challenging because uh Lake Kingsley has 150 foot setback from the ordinary high water level. Our property is 293 feet wide. So, there's no 150 ft to do anything. We have water on both sides. Anyway, the idea is to create this uh larger bar building where uh we would have um covering over the seats, so get people out of the rain and the the sun and then we would have garage doors on uh two sides, five garage doors, so we open up all summer long and ideally extend the shoulder season with a little bit of radiant heat from the floor. So instead of mid May through mid-October, maybe it can be open March 1st through December 1st or something. That's the gist of it. [19:49] **Chair Zimmer**: Excellent. Thank you so much. If you'll stick around, we'll have staff come up and present and then we might have questions. Thank you. **Heather (Staff)**: Thank you. Good evening, chair, commission members. So, as mentioned, the request tonight is for the property located at 11287 Clayoth Trail. It is located on the west side of Kenwood Trail, south of Kingsley Lake. [20:13] The property is zoned C3 which is our general commercial district and the comprehensive plan is guiding it as commercial and in the neighborhood planning district 1. Those the comp plan and the zoning allows for commercial uses such as resident uh restaurants and banquet facilities. So the request in front of you tonight is a conditional use permit amendment to exceed the 25% impervious surface in the shoreland district and then a variance from the minimum setback from Kingsley Lake. Uh the property owner, as he mentioned, he will be tearing down an existing outdoor bar that is kind of located here in the hatched area. And then the new bar, which is um 2,660 square ft in size. That new structure is right on top of it in the outline section here. [21:03] **Heather (Staff)**: So, the structure does require a minimum setback of 150 feet from Kingsley Lake. and um that conditional use permit amendment—they are above that 25% but they are below the maximum of 50% that is allowed on a natural environment lake. So as the property owner mentioned the property is about 24 acres in size total but there's only about 4 and a half acres of it that's above the ordinary high water mark. So the property is considered a legal non-conforming use. So as he mentioned any additions or expansions to the site would require a variance. Uh the building is proposed to be located about 95 ft on the west side to the OHW and then about 107 feet at the closest point to the north to Kingsley Lake. So the [21:50] original conditional use permit was approved in 1997 and at that time it allowed 48% impervious surface. So this the uh property owner now did a detailed site plan and the impervious surface is coming in at it's about 43% here. Um but we're another plan we're probably guessing about 46% but both of them are under what was approved in 1997. But what happened was that that was approved to a specific site plan. So we're amending that cup to tie it to the new site plan and then the new improvements with the rain garden and storm water treatment. [22:25] **Heather (Staff)**: So access to the property is not changing. It's just the one access point. Parking on the site with the new building requires 27 parking spaces. Uh factoring in the existing building on site, 170 parking spaces would be required. Looking at the 1997 approvals, there would be 202 parking spaces on site total. So it is complying with the minimum requirements. Uh the proposed structure is one story similar to the building that's there today. the exterior building materials are um I guess with the stone veneer, but then there's these shingles that you can see on some of the siding on this north elevation here and then on the east and west elevations. So that is a grade F material because it's it's vinyl. So that does have to be upgraded [23:12] to comply with our exterior building material requirements. So the property owner will just have to submit a revised elevation prior to city council approval. Um otherwise the applicant has been working closely with engineering and environmental resources in coming up with the final approved plans for their storm water grading and erosion control and they are they're very very close to getting that. Um so we're just in our final stages with that. The DNR has looked at this and they had very minimal comments. Their main comment was just to try to avoid needing a public water permit. Uh just to avoid needing that special permit with the DNR, but otherwise they didn't have any other issues with the proposed improvements. [23:49] **Heather (Staff)**: So staff believes that the proposed location uh would be the most reasonable place on the property with the least amount of environmental impacts. So staff is supporting the uh proposed request with the stipulations listed in the planning and engineering report and the findings of facts that were listed in your conditional use permit and variance um finding effects in your packet. So that's all I have. Stand for any questions. [24:15] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you very much. Um, planning commissioners public hearing is now open and I don't know if we have anyone uh that is interested in testifying or speaking or anyone on the phone. [24:38] **Planning Manager Jensen**: Uh, no chair, no one signed up to speak and there is no one in the teams meeting. **Commissioner Swenson**: Madam Chair, seeing no one come forward, I move to close the public hearing. **Commissioner Kuza**: Second. [24:53] **Chair Zimmer**: We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying I. **Commissioners**: I. **Chair Zimmer**: Opposed. Excellent. Public hearing is now closed and we are open for comments and questions from commissioners. We'll have either Mr. Maverick or staff come forward. Thinking um Commissioner Swenson has questions. **Commissioner Swenson**: I actually don't have questions for once. I I can speak though. Okay. Um I was just going to say from my perspective, you know, these sites are always challenging from a standpoint of this originally was built in an era where there weren't shoreline regulations. It predates all that being in place. And so we're we're kind of stuck in this box now of we've got rules that came in after the original business came into place and we're trying to make sure that we comply with the spirit and intent of the rules, so to speak. [25:45] **Commissioner Swenson**: Um, so always kind of a challenging predicament to see. Um, I'm comfortable with everything that's being proposed with the amount of impervious surface on the site. Um, I like the fact that you're adding a rain garden to the site to kind of work on improving water quality to Kingsley Lake. I think that's an important element of that. Was also pleased that the DNR basically made the comment of here's how you could avoid getting a permit. Um, trust me, that's that's the path you want to take is is what I will say on that. Um but in any event, just to me, this is a long-standing business that's been in in Lakeville for quite some time. Um like to see the continued investment in the facility and the grounds um continuing to keep it a viable uh business into the future. So with with all those things being said, I'm I'm going to be voting in support of this. [26:30] **Chair Zimmer**: Commissioner Kuza. **Commissioner Kuza**: um I want to echo Commissioner Swenson's comments. is um you know I'm I'm really pleased with all the work that's been done on this. Um you know this is a very long-standing Lakeville business and I'm glad that we can help you to continue to be successful. Um this really kind of is the highest and best use for this site. There's not really anything else you can do there if our house were to go away. So everything we can do to help you to continue to thrive uh and be such a great uh part of this community as you've been for decades um I I think is totally appropriate and I'm definitely in support of it. [27:14] **Chair Zimmer**: I'd make the comment that I think this was a um a desired location for prom at one point in my uh career and so it's great that it's [there] and that you're making improvements uh seems like a great investment. [27:31] **Commissioner Swenson**: Madam Chair, one other comment I think I throw out there. I believe the planning commission did a workshop talking about some of the the items related to the site and the challenges and everything else. So while it in one way it may feel like this body is kind of taking a short discussion on this. We've already talked about we've worked through some of these things at a workshop setting in a prior meeting. So just wanted to mention that for the public as well. [27:52] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you. Any other comments? We're ready for a motion. **Commissioner Swenson**: Madam Chair, move to recommend to city council approval of the Chart House conditional use permit amendment to exceed impervious surface and variance from the shoreland setbacks subject to the seven stipulations listed in the planning memo dated September 9th, 2025. [28:19] **Commissioner Kuza**: Second. **Chair Zimmer**: We have a motion and Will you please take the role? **Ms. Ericson**: Merken [I], Kuza [I], Zimmer [I], Duckworth [I], Swenson [I], Tinsley [I], Travis [I]. [28:34] **Chair Zimmer**: Excellent. Thank you so much for your continued uh efforts and investment here. Uh the third item under public hearings is Launch Park Fourth Edition to consider the application of Lakeville Flex Space LLC for a preliminary plat and development for plans for a one lot one outlot subdivision to be known as Park Fourth Edition and here to present on behalf of the uh applicant is Jim French I believe. Thank you so much Mr. French as previous folks, please identify yourself for the record. [29:24] **Jim French**: Uh yes, I'm Jim French. Um I'm the applicant for the preliminary plat. Uh yeah, so uh I am a uh developer of Small Bay Industrial Space. Um we are uh applying for the preliminary plat to break uh the 20 acre parcel in the Launch Park Fourth Edition into a one lot, one out lot. um uh division. So it would essentially be an 8 acre parcel that we're planning to lot uh and then develop and then a the remainder the balance would be an outlot considered outlot A. um should I get into the project that we plan? Okay, I think that'd be great. [30:08] **Jim French**: Yeah. Okay. So uh like I mentioned, we are a developer of small bay industrial space. Um and uh our intention would be to develop uh the site and and four buildings that were on the site um would or would be built on the site. Um they're essentially between 1,000 and 1,500 square feet per unit. Um and the intention there is that we um create a CIC um which is essentially an HOA uh with declarations and covenants and restrictions on the uses. Uh, and the intention would be to sell with a primary um um I'll say prime perspective client of being a small business owner um kind of blue collar [30:55] uh space. So um we've uh Kimley-Horn has prepared the preliminary plat information. uh our engineers, O Consulting, who's done all the storm water uh and and uh site plans for the project. Um and happy to answer any questions that um might come up. [31:18] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you so much, Mr. French. We'll have staff come up and then we'll see what else happens. **Heather (Staff)**: All right. Thank you, chair, commission members. So, this request is for property that's located east of Cedar Avenue and it's south of the future 22nd Street. It's north of Eureka Township border there with the city. Um, you can see the city of Farmington here in the northeast corner, but otherwise surrounded by other industrial development. The property is zoned I2, which is our general industrial, and the comprehensive plan guides it for industrial as well. So, as mentioned, this is a one lot, one outlot subdivision, uh, to be known as Launch Park 4th. Lot one is about 8 acres in [32:03] size, and the outlot is about 12 acres. Both lots would meet and exceed minimum lot size and width requirements for the I2 district. So, Lakeville Flex is proposing to construct the garage condo development. [32:18] **Heather (Staff)**: So, this use is a permitted use in the I2 district. So the complex includes the four storage buildings, condo buildings and each structure consists of multiple individual units and then each unit will have access to its own water and sewer. Uh the proposed structures itself either meet or exceed setback requirements. There's proposed storm water treatment on the entire east side of the parcel and one access point along the future 22nd street. [32:51] **Heather (Staff)**: So there is no separate guest parking currently on the site. Uh our city code does require that three parking spaces plus one space per 100 units is required. So revised plans will have to be submitted prior to council approval. That would just demonstrate four guest parking spaces. Um and that can be pretty much anywhere on site or on the north here and that would meet our setback requirements. Landscaping on the property includes a row of coniferous and deciduous trees along the northern property line and this does comply with our landscaping requirements for the city. Uh there are no tree preservation requirements on this site. [33:31] **Heather (Staff)**: The buildings—I don't know why it looks like it's striped. That is—it's not a striped building. Uh but it is designed with smart side uh engineered wood with some accent panels on the corners and then the sides that are public facing they will have a a row of stone veneer on the bottom. So this does comply with the exterior building material requirements of the city code. So the plans are consistent with the goals and policies of the comprehensive plan and will conform with all the performance standards of the city code. So staff is recommending approval of the preliminary plat for Launch Park Fourth Edition with the stipulations listed in the planning and engineering reports. [34:13] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you. Uh this is a public hearing and anyone wishing to speak on this issue uh didn't sign up um before please come forward at this time. Madam Chair, Commissioner Kuza being no one come forward, I move to close the public hearing. **Commissioner Travis**: Second. [34:48] **Chair Zimmer**: We have a motion and a second. All those in favor of closing the public hearing, please say I. **Commissioners**: I. **Chair Zimmer**: Opposed. This public hearing is now closed. So now we're open for questions. I know that I have a few. I'm sure that others do as well. Um, Mr. French. Thank you so much. In my time as planning commissioner, I've not seen one of these um garage condos, so I'll plead ignorance for information. And as I understood, four story with water and sewer, but you're having a CIC. Can you talk a little bit about the how you use that and um what restrictions there are? [35:27] **Jim French**: Yeah. So, uh the CIC is just to ensure the community um remains uh with the proper uses. So, uh some of the restrictions and covenants within the CIC uh that we implement are uh no noise excessive noise producing activities, no excessive smell producing activities, no overnight parking. Um the CIC is in enforced and maintained through a a commercial uh property management company that we've used across all of our sites. um um they're they're tasked with uh holding individuals accountable to those uh covenants um in addition to making sure the exterior of the of the facility is is uh maintained and upkeep. So they they'll also um contract with snow removal and land care and um those types of uh services as well. [36:13] **Chair Zimmer**: I'm going to follow up with one question. So it's um sewer and water noise, no smells, strong smells, strong no overnight parking. So you can't live in these spaces. [36:35] **Jim French**: No, no, no. These are uh strictly uh industrial spaces. Um there is no um you can [not]—and that is in the covenants, but it's also um not permitted anyways. But uh yes, you cannot live in the spaces. You cannot stay overnight in the spaces. um um to answer your question. [36:58] **Chair Zimmer**: Thank you. Other commissioners questions, please go forward. **Commissioner Duckworth**: Thank you. I just have a few questions. You mentioned four buildings. Uh any idea on total number of units when the project's done? **Jim French**: Uh yes, 98. **Commissioner Duckworth**: 98. Okay. And uh they're for sale, correct? Any idea on price point? **Jim French**: Uh yeah. Um they'll likely begin uh during construction. The Sales point will be 185,000 a piece and that'll be just shy of 1,200 square feet. [37:30] **Commissioner Duckworth**: Okay. And last question, uh, are these predominantly purchased and used by car enthusiasts, people with just toys for storage? Can you kind of walk us through how they're typically utilized? **Jim French**: Yeah. Um, it's it's a it's a wide range. [37:46] Um, this is this is our fifth site, fifth facility. Um, we've seen individuals like you mentioned that have, you know, maybe retirees or have a lot of toys or want a little workshop space. Uh, we see we see a lot of um small business owners that might be operating out of their house. Um, maybe have outgrown their garage or got kicked out of their own garage or what whatever the case may be. Um, and this is a good um transition space uh at a reasonable price point is the idea uh for these individuals to get um some additional space uh little office setup. It's roughed in for uh water sewer so you can add a [38:32] bathroom um store some materials, do some paperwork. So we've had a we've had a wide range uh but predominantly those have been let kind of two buckets that uh buyers have fallen into. **Commissioner Duckworth**: Thank you. **Jim French**: Yup. [38:49] **Chair Zimmer**: other commissioners. Madam Chair, Commissioner Travis. **Commissioner Travis**: Uh Mr. French, just a question on the parking. Um, as I looked at the at the uh depiction of the four buildings and it wasn't really clear on the spacing, but if one does drive their vehicle to the garage condo for the purpose of doing some work on their vehicle, where do they park the car that they drive to the garage condo? [39:14] **Jim French**: Yeah, good question. And I I failed to mention um the the covenants and restrictions in the in the CIC uh limit the parking uh during daytime hours, not overnight, but limit the parking to directly in front of the unit that you own. So there are about three spaces available in front of your unit um should you pull up and park outside. [39:38] **Commissioner Travis**: Thank you. **Chair Zimmer**: Madam Chair. I did have one more question. Commissioner Duckworth. **Commissioner Duckworth**: Thank you. Uh, in the CIC, do owners have the ability to rent these? **Jim French**: They do. Yep. **Commissioner Duckworth**: Okay. That would be like a sub lease space. **Jim French**: Yeah. Correct. So, they if they purchase it and they rent it, um, there are requirements that then the board or the management company has to review that lease, ensure the uses are fit within the permitted uses of the of the facility. [40:10] **Commissioner Duckworth**: Thank you. **Chair Zimmer**: Commissioner Kuza, what's the Jeff Woody question? Commissioner Woody question. **Commissioner Kuza**: Um, I I think there's two of them. Uh, first off, uh, since you have a whole bunch of different units, is there going to be any type of um, you know, numbering or lettering on the doors so that if there was uh something where emergency services needed to get there, they could go directly where they're needed to. [40:40] **Jim French**: Yes. Each individual unit will have a number on on their door. Um yes, they are. **Commissioner Kuza**: great. And then um the other question uh since you know these are going to be um sold or perhaps subleased, are you going to require like any type of like crime free or drug-free agreements for um those that are purchasing them? [41:02] **Jim French**: Absolutely. Yep. And that is um that is of course listed in the CIC as well. Um um and then there's in addition from a from a security and safety standpoint there is um um security measures taken, cameras, those sorts of things. Yes. [41:22] **Chair Zimmer**: Any further questions, commissioners? Thank you, Mr. French. There are no question further questions. Looks like we're ready for a motion. Madam Chair, Commissioner Tinsley. [41:37] **Commissioner Tinsley**: uh, I would move to recommend city council approval of the Launch Park Fourth Edition preliminary plat subject to the nine stipulations listed in the planning memo dated September 8th, 2025. [41:55] **Commissioner Swenson**: Second. **Chair Zimmer**: A motion and a second. Miss Ericson, will you please take the role? **Ms. Ericson**: Zimmer [I], Duckworth [I], Swenson [I], Tinsley [I], Travis [I], Kuza [I]. **Chair Zimmer**: Motion prevails. Thank you so much Mr. French. We look forward to your investment this uh industrial area with something that I think is unique uh for Lakeville. It'll be fun to watch it develop. Thank you. [42:30] **Chair Zimmer**: Um, next item on the agenda is staff notices. And it looks like the city council meeting at which the above items may be considered will be held on October 6th. And uh, next planning commission is October 2nd. And is there any memo from you uh, planning manager Jensen? [42:51] **Planning Manager Jensen**: Uh, no. Just a reminder to commissioners that after this meeting adjourns, we will be moving down to the Marian conference room for a work session. **Chair Zimmer**: All right. No further business being before us. Um we are adjourned to a work session.