. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I HEREBY CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL AT 6:30 P.M.. I AM COUNCILMEMBER VICTOR RIVAS SERVING AS MAYOR PRO TEM . WE WILL BEGIN BY PRESENTING THE COLORS AND RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. CHIEF HODGES, PLEASE STAND FOR THE LINE . PRESENT OFFICERS PRESENT ARE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. I STAND ON HONESTY. I DO THIS WHEN YOU AGREE TO BE JUSTICE FOR ALL OR I ORDER PLACE NO . MAYBE SEE IT OVERSEAS. THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. ALL MEMBERS SHALL HAVE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA ITEM? IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES. THEN I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS STATED. SO I MOVED IT MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER I WILL SEND YOU ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OH I WOULD SAY MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE NOW TO THE INTRODUCTORY INTRODUCTORY SECTION. CHIEF HODGES, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND LEAD US TO ITEM 2.1 AND 2.2. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL CITY MANAGERS. FIRST UP WE'RE GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF OUR POLICE EXPLORER PROGRAM SO I WILL BRING UP OFFICER SAM DEVON AND SOME OF OUR POLICE EXPLORERS WHICH ARE KIDS. YEAH, MY KIDS ONE OF THEM TWO OF IT. HE'S AT HOME PLAYING HIS GUITAR RIGHT NOW SO I GET TO TAKE OVER RIGHT AWAY. OH, WHAT A LOT OF PRESSURE. COMEDIAN ACTOR MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT WE GOT A QUICK POWERPOINT WILL KIND OF SKIM THROUGH AND WE'LL DO A LITTLE INTRODUCTION AFTER HOUR. BUT BEHIND ME REAL QUICK ARE FOUR OF OUR EXPLORERS. WE HAVE 25 AND BLOOMINGTON TOTAL AND THEY COMPETE TWICE A YEAR IN A COMPETITION AS A STATE. EXCELLENT WALMART. SO THE EXPLORER PROGRAM IS DESIGNED FOR ANYONE 14 THROUGH 20 YEARS OLD WE SPONSOR IT SINCE 1972. SO WE HAVE A VERY LONG POLICY. WE'VE HAD THEY GET HANDS ON TRAINING EVERY THURSDAY FROM ABOUT EIGHT BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICERS FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS EACH THURSDAY. >> THIS IS FROM OUR STATE COMPETITION LAST YEAR IN ROCHESTER WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO PLACE IN THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. WE TOOK FIRST IN SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, SECOND IN CRIME PREVENTION AND FIVE AND FIRST OR FIFTH AND FIRST IN THAT IS FROM PEOPLE EXPLORERS ALL AROUND THE STATE. YEP JUST A QUICK NUMBERS THERE. SO WE HAVE 11 NEW EXPLORERS THIS YEAR TOTALING AT 25 THAT IS OUR CAP THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE INTO THE POLLS JUST BASED OFF HOW MANY WE WERE ABLE TO TRAIN EACH YEAR. SO UNFORTUNATELY WE DID HAVE TO TURN SOME PEOPLE AWAY SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THAT FROM IN BLOOMINGTON ON ONCE AGAIN A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY PLACED FOR THEIR EYES FROM DULUTH OF THIS YEAR WHICH WE TOOK THE GROUP ON THE RIGHT THERE TO LIKE FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN EXPLORERS OR IF YOU KNOW ANYONE OUR CONTACT INFO WAS UP THERE AND WE RECRUIT EVERY SEPTEMBER SO AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW EXPLORERS. WITH THAT I'LL LET OUR EXPLORERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AT THE MAJOR CITY COUNCIL SEMINAR. CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS GOOD CELEBRATE BUSKERS REVIEW I'VE BEEN LIVING IN BLOOMINGTON FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS. THIS WILL BE MY FIFTH YEAR. POLICE WERE COMING IN FROM OTHER CITIES AND I'M CURRENTLY IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I AM HOPING TO IN THE FUTURE TO WORK AS A BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICER. THANK YOU. ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS THOMAS A TUMOR. I GREW UP IN BLOOMINGTON. I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE. I'VE BEEN AN EXPLORER FOR TWO YEARS CURRENTLY ATTEND JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND MY PLAN IS TO BE A BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS JACK SANDERS. I GREW UP HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. I'VE BEEN EXPLORING HERE FOR TWO YEARS. I CURRENTLY ATTEND HENNEPIN TECHNICAL COLLEGE PURSUING A DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I HOPE TO BE A POLICE OFFICER HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS KYLE FOR OTTO I'VE LIVED IN BLOOMINGTON ALL MY LIFE. I GREW UP IN OR SO I'VE BEEN EXPLORER FOR THREE YEARS NOW. I CURRENTLY ATTEND NORMANDY COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. I JUST RECENTLY STARTED AS A CADET HERE AT BLOOMINGTON AND HOPE TO EVENTUALLY BECOME A POLICE OFFICER UPON COMPLETION OF MY SCHOOLING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. IT'S VERY APPRECIATED BY BOTH US ADVISORS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE EXPLORERS. THANK YOU . ALL RIGHT. NEXT SOMEONE TO BRING UP TWO OF OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES MISS ANDERSON AND MALACHI . SO WE GIVE YOU THIS LIKE NICE LITTLE SCRIPT HERE TO FOLLOW AND GO AHEAD, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS AARON ANDERSON. I DID NOT GROW UP HERE. I GREW UP IN PLYMOUTH SO NOT TOO FAR BUT MY FATHER HAS BEEN WORKING HERE FOR 28 YEARS. I JUST DON'T HAVE A DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. I ACTUALLY ENGLISH AND CLASSICAL LANGUAGES BUT I WORK HERE AS A CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I AM RECORD SPECIALIST AND FRONT DESK SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING WE'LL BE DONE THERE AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND HOPEFULLY MANY MORE. ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS MARK. I COME OUT I GREW UP RIGHT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. I'M CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT MINNEAPOLIS TECHNICAL COLLEGE WHERE I'LL BE FINISHING WITH MY ASSOCIATES AND LIBERAL ARTS CRIMINAL JUSTICE BEFORE BEING A CADET HERE I WORKED IN THE HEALTH FIELD AS A BAY AREA TECH. I WORKED WITH HIGH BEHAVIORAL CLIENTS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. WELCOME. THANK ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING UP THE POLICE OFFICERS NEXT. AND JUST TO REMIND THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I GET ASKED ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME WHY DOESN'T BLOOMINGTON HAVE A POLICE ACADEMY GRADUATION? THIS TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN SOME OF OUR LARGER DEPARTMENTS. MY PERSONAL FEELING IS WHEN I TOOK OVER AS CHIEF I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY BEFORE YOU WHO HAD NOT COMPLETED ALL OF THEIR TRAINING. SO WHEN SOMEONE GRADUATES FROM THE ACADEMY THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLETE FIELD TRAINING. SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE BEFORE THE CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT FULLY FLEDGED POLICE OFFICERS WORKING ON THEIR OWN . SO THESE NEXT FOUR ARE OUT HERE WORKING ON THEIR OWN RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO COME UP AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS YOU'LL READ OFF THIS PREPARED SCRIPT HERE AND THEN WE'LL GO UP HERE WE'LL TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE AND THEN YOU'LL SHAKE EVERYBODY'S HANDS. COPY THAT ACTING ACTING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER LOOK, IT LOOKS VERY FAMILIAR LIKE I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. >> BUT MY NAME IS VU. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN MINNEAPOLIS. I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN SOCIOLOGY OF EMPHASIS IN LAW, CRIMINOLOGY AND EVENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. >> I STARTED MY CAREER IN 28 AS A LICENSED DEPUTY OF THE HENRY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAME HERE FEBRUARY 22ND OF 2011, STARTED POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN HAD A LITTLE BIT OF SABBATICAL MOMENTS IN MAY OF 2023 AND THEN LEFT FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS AND THEN I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO GO BACK TO THE BEST DEPARTMENTS. SO I CAME AND HERE I AM. I'M BACK HERE AGAIN. SO GLAD TO BE BACK. ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS LAUREN HANSEN. I'M FROM HUDSON, WISCONSIN. I GRADUATED WITH MY ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN RIVER FALLS, WISCONSIN AT CHIPPEWA VALLEY TECHNICAL COLLEGE. I STARTED MY CAREER HERE WITH BLOOMINGTON 13 YEARS AGO, STARTED AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER WHERE I GOT TO WORK ALONGSIDE MY DAD WHO IS A RETIRED BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICER. I RECEIVED THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP INTO A NEW ROLE AS A POLICE AND FIRE 911 DISPATCHER WHERE I WORKED HERE FOR NINE YEARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RADIO AND I'M VERY EXCITED AND HONORED TO BE SERVING THE CITIZENS OF BLOOMINGTON IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY. THANK YOU. ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS KYLE HAGUE. I GREW UP IN PRYOR LAKE, MINNESOTA. I HAVE A DEGREE IN MARKETING AND BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS A DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BEFORE BECOMING A POLICE OFFICER I WAS A CADET FOR A YEAR WITH THE CITY. THANK YOU . ACTING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS BAILEY BROADHEAD. I GREW UP IN ARLINGTON, TEXAS BUT I DO HAVE FAMILY ROOTS IN BLOOMINGTON FROM ABOUT 1960. MY DEGREE MY UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE IS IN SOCIOLOGY WITH AN EMPHASIS IN CRIMINOLOGY FROM TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS. AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON. MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IS THAT I WAS A POLICE OFFICER ACTIVE DUTY AIR FORCE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND THEN I HAVE ABOUT A YEAR EXPERIENCE AS A DISPATCHER WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN DALLAS, TEXAS. AND NOW I'M VERY HONORED AND EXCITED TO CONTINUE MY LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER WITH BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT . THANK YOU . ALL RIGHT. NOW YOU GUYS CAN GO UP HERE AND THEN I'M GOING TO READ YOU THIS OATH AND YOU'LL BE GOOD TO GO. ALL RIGHT. AND ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE PICTURES OF THEM, GO AHEAD. OH, ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN I SAY SAY YOUR NAME, YOU COULD FAMILY MEMBERS YOU CAN COME UP AND TAKE PICTURES FOR THEM IF YOU WISH TO DO SO. YOU'RE WELCOME TO YES, PLEASE GET UP. >> I'M GOING TO RIGHT NOW I STATE YOUR NAME I TO DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES BASED ON YOU AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. AND TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY, CONGRATULATIONS . OH, COME I KNOW YOU. OH YEAH. SO FOR ALL THE FAMILIES YOU CAN GO UPSTAIRS, THERE'S A RECEPTION FOR FOLKS SO GOING JOY THANK YOU. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL . OKAY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S COOL? I'M SWEATING TV. I WANT ONE OF THOSE. CAN YOU SAY THAT TO ME PLEASE ? SO YEAH . GOOD. GOOD. YEAH IT'S ALL RIGHT, BUDDY. OKAY, WE WE WILL DO THE INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTORY SECTION. OH NO. THIS AND BEHIND IT. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. NOW LET'S MOVE TO IRENE TO POINT THREE A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. I'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE PODIUM TO READ THE PROCLAMATION. WELL, THAT'S NOT GOOD . THIS IS CRAZY. THIS WAY, THIS WAY. THE OTHER WAY. OH MY GOD. I HAVE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS MY FIRST IT'S OKAY. YOU DID HIM OKAY AND THE CITY OF BURLINGTON PROCLAMATION WAS WELL, THIS IS SMALL. THIS IS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 29TH, 2025. WHEREAS BLOOMINGTON CELEBRATES ALL OUR BUSINESSES BUT RECOGNIZES SMALL BUSINESSES AS THE ENGINE OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, AS EMPLOYERS AND PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES CENSUS, OUT OF THE 40,630 BUSINESSES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY ,39,200 ARE SMALL BUSINESSES WITH FEWER THAN 100 EMPLOYEES. THAT IS MORE THAN 90% OF THE 96% OF BUSINESSES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. AND. WHEREAS, BLOOMINGTON SUPPORTS THIS AND SERVED IN YEARS ALL YEAR LONG INCLUDING THROUGH OUR WORK WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY'S ELEVATE HENNEPIN INITIATIVE OFFERING AN EXPERT CONSULTING FOCUSED COHORT PROGRAMING AND A LIBRARY OF RESOURCES AND NOT COSTS FOR EVERY RESIDENT AND BUSINESS. WE ALSO PROMOTE SHOPPING AT OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES VIA THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL LOVE LOCAL CAMPAIGN WHICH ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT LOCAL INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESSES THAT CREATE JOBS, BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES VIBRANT AND LIVABLE. AND. WHEREAS, FOR MANY RESIDENTS THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY KICKS OFF A SEASON OF GATHERING, DINING, SHOPPING AND EXPERIENCING ARTS AND CULTURE AND CONSUMERS KNOW THAT SUPPORTING SMALL INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESSES HAVE POSITIVE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. THEREFORE I VICTORY WAS ACTING AS MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 29TH 2025 AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA AND I ENCOURAGE ALL THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE TO CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES ON THIS DAY AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. LIKE THANK YOU. DO YOU? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BRITTANY MYLAN AND I'M THE OWNER OF ELEVATE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. WE HAVE PROUDLY SERVED THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS EDUCATING DANCERS TOO THROUGH THE AGE OF 18 IN A WIDE VARIETY OF STYLES BALLET, TAP JAZZ, HIP HOP, CONTEMPORARY AND MORE . AT ELEVATE OUR VISION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO NURTURE CONFIDENT COURAGEOUS ARTISTIC AND DIVERSE DANCERS YOUNG PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY DEVELOP STRONG TECHNICAL SKILLS BUT WHO COME TOGETHER TO FORM A BEAUTIFULLY STRONG AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY. A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKING SUPPORT TO HELP ENSURE THAT OUR BUSINESS COULD CONTINUE ITS LEGACY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THAT OUTREACH LED ME TO BARBARA WOLF AND HIROMI FROM NEXT STAGE AND I CANNOT EXPRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPACTFUL THEIR GUIDANCE, SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP HAVE BEEN. BECAUSE OF THEIR EFFORTS WE WERE ABLE TO BEGIN AN EXCITING NEW CHAPTER IN A BRAND NEW FOUR STUDIO SPACE LOCATED IN THE PEN LAKE SHOPPING CENTER RIGHT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR HELPING ELEVATE CONTINUE TO THRIVE IN THE CITY. WE ARE SO PROUD TO CALL HOME . HI, MY NAME IS DANIEL HERNANDEZ. I AM THE OWNER OF COLONIAL MARKET INN AND THE WINE IN THE SPIRIT APPAREL DOWN HERE IN SOUTH LOOP OF SAME OF BLOOMINGTON. I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE FOOD IN OUR TABLES AND IN ORDER TO HAVE FOOD IN OUR TABLES THERE HAS TO BE OUR GROCERY STORE NEARBY. WELL OUR AND OUR FELLOWS OVER THERE YOU HAVE A GROCERY STORE NEARBY. THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO DRIVE SEVEN MINUTES AWAY OR SO TO GET IT. SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU MAKE YOUR MATH YOU ALREADY ARE SPENDING 15 MINUTES AND BY THE TIME YOU GET OUT OF YOU KNOW, THE LINES, YOU'RE ALREADY ONE HOUR RIGHT NOW THIS TIME HAS LESS THAN HALF AN HOUR FOR THEM. THEY'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE US IN THERE. WE HAVE WONDERFUL RESTAURANT THAT IS MEXICAN OR YOU KNOW, REAL FLAVORED MEXICAN FOOD WHICH IS VERY GOOD MAKE FROM SCRATCH IN OUR GROCERY STORE. IT'S VERY UNIQUE. IT'S IT'S WHAT I CALL HYBRID. IT'S AROUND 80% AMERICAN FOOD AND 20% MINORITY FOOD INCLUDE FROM ASIAN OR LATINOS ARE FOOD THAT'S IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE A LOT OF LATINOS. SO I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE AND VERY HAPPY TO FULFILL THE NEED IN WHAT IT'S CALL OUR FOOD DESERT. I THINK I'M GETTING GOOD AT IT BECAUSE I'M ALSO HAVE A STORE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS WHERE THERE WAS A HUGE NEED OF OF FOOD AND WE'RE BEING FULFILLED THAT STOP BY ANYTIME WE REALLY NEED YOUR SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS DONE. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO ASK WHERE IS THE PICTURE RIGHT HERE JUST ON EITHER SIDE IS WONDERFUL THAT THAT ACTUALLY I THINK TO ME I LIKE THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS ITEM CHECKERS HERE ROUTINE AND IT WILL BE ACTED ON ONE BY ONE MOTION COUNCILMEMBER TO CONSENT TONIGHT THANK YOU ACTING MAYOR. >> THE ONLY THING I'VE HEARD OF THIS ITEM 312 ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. IF NOT I WOULD MOVE ITEMS 3.1 THROUGH 3.11 AND 3.13 THROUGH 3.25 AS STATED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I AM LIKE IT'S ABOUT MONEY LIKE WE CAN BLESSED 60I ASKED WE NOW MOVE 63232 FOLLOW US. SO WHO IS HER SECOND? OH OKAY WELL OKAY SO WE NEED TO GO OVER THAT ONE. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. IT'S SO WHAT I NEED TO SAY NO . SO WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM 312 RESOLUTIONS TO ADOPT TO 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR AND UPDATE COUNCIL MEETING AND LISTENING SESSION PROCEDURES TO THANK YOU ACTING MAYOR MARIUS THE REASON I HELD 312 IS CURRENTLY WE ARE POSTING VIDEO OF OUR LISTENING SESSIONS BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE HAGUE. I THINK THIS WAS A TRANSITIONAL THING. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WE ONLY HAD AUDIO AND THEN WHEN WE MOVED IN THE HAGUE FOR VARIOUS REASONS VIDEO BECAME AVAILABLE THERE AND IT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO POST THE VIDEO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE AUDIO AS WELL AND SO IN MY MIND THIS IS JUST A CLEAN UP. I JUST LIKE TO CLEAN UP THAT LANGUAGE THAT SAYS AUDIO ONLY AND JUST TO NOTE THAT AUDIO AND OR VIDEO BUT THAT IS NOT LIVE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IT LIVE BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO WATCH AS AS IS NOW IF YOU GO TO YOUTUBE YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO OF THESE MEETINGS AS IT IS I DID IT AT 230 THIS MORNING SO THAT WAS THAT WAS WHEN I WAS READING THE PACKET. SO SO FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING I JUST IT FOR ME IT'S JUST A CLEANUP ITEM SIX COUNCIL MEMBER THEY'LL SEND YOU YEAH THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I AM CONFUSED BY THAT. I WAS NEVER INFORMED THAT WE WERE DOING VIDEO FOR THE LISTENING SESSIONS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN AUDIO THING SINCE WE STARTED THIS WHOLE PROCESS. MAYBE IT'S THE ONE MEETING I MISSED WHERE YOU GUYS DECIDED THAT IT GOT CHANGED. I HAVE NO IDEA BUT THAT IS VERY BRAND NEW NEWS. I MEAN MOVING INTO THE HAGUE WASN'T NECESSARILY WE DIDN'T MOVE INTO THE HAGUE SO WE COULD GET VIDEO. WE MOVED INTO THE HAGUE SO WE COULD ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE IN A BETTER SETTING. THAT VIDEO GOT TURNED ON WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WAS AWARE OF. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I OPPOSE IT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M GETTING AT . I, I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE LISTENING SESSION FOR COUNCIL WAS THAT WE HAD A SETTING WHERE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WANT DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING ON VIDEO COULD BE THERE TO TALK TO COUNCIL IN AN INFORMAL SETTING. SO HOW DID THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT US HAVING TO VOTE ON CHANGING IT? THAT'S MY QUESTION AGAIN NOT BECAUSE I OPPOSE IT NECESSARILY. I'M NOT TRYING TO LIKE STOP THE PROCESS HERE BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN EXPLANATION FOR WHEN THAT DECISION WAS MADE, WHY IT WAS MADE AND WHY COUNCIL WASN'T FORMALLY INFORMED GIVEN THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE LISTENING SESSION BECAUSE HAVE A MAYOR MEMBERS ARE ACTING MAYOR MEMBERS I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT STAFF PEOPLE IN THEIR ROLE AND I KNOW THAT WE USE WEBEX TO PROVIDE THE AUDIO RECORDING. WE CAN CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE THE REASONS IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CALENDAR ADOPTING THE CALENDAR AND THEN WE CAN PUSH THIS ONE TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER OR FRANKLY WE CAN JUST IF YOU WANT WE CAN ADOPT IT AND THEN BRING IT BACK. IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED IF YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW, PULL THIS PART OF IT OUT AND JUST SET UP THE CALENDAR AND THE OTHER PART THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ADOPT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE EDITS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED BECAUSE ONE OF THEM INCLUDES FIXING SOMETHING AT THE WITH REGARD TO THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE VERY FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR. SO IT'S NOT ON JANUARY 2ND WHICH IS A FRIDAY AND WE CAN'T FIND A LEGAL REASON WHY WE NEED TO DO IT. SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ADOPT THE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE EDITS BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO PULL OUT THESE LISTENING SESSIONS WE CAN WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK. NO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. MAYOR PRO TEM I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. THAT'S NOT THE POINT I'M MAKING. AND SO IF WE CAN PASS IT AT COUNCIL, REFLECT IT AS AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WOULD LIKE THE CHANGE TO BE MADE, I WILL SUPPORT THAT. I JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN TAKING AWAY SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY PEOPLE LIKE IT'S JUST IT WAS IT WAS NOT IN IT WAS JUST I'M SURPRISED AND I'D LIKE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT AT SOME POINT AND THAT CAN BE DONE OFFLINE. >> BUT AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SURPRISED LIKE CANDIDLY I MEAN THAT SINCERELY LIKE MR. MAYOR PRO TEM DID YOU KNOW I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WERE RECORDING IT BUT I HAVE LEARNED FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE WAS SOME RECORDING BEING TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE I GOT A FEW EMAILS STATING THAT WAY WE WERE REMOVING IT BASED ON WHAT THEY READ. UNDERSTOOD. UNDERSTOOD. I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WERE. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE IF I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS IN THE IN THE NOT IN THE NO THAN I I WITHDRAW MY COMMENTARY BUT I DON'T THINK I AM I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF EVEN MR. MAYOR KNOWS. BUT ANYWAY WITH THAT SAID I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN EXPLANATION FOR WHEN IT CHANGED WHY IT CHANGED IN WHY WE WEREN'T INFORMED AND THEN WITH THAT I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS. I'M HAPPY TO SECOND WHATEVER MOTION COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WANTS TO MAKE. WELL THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST ONE OTHER THING TOO AS WE WERE DISCUSSING SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALSO REMOVING THE CALL IN FUNCTION TO THE MEETING. YEAH, THAT THAT IS THAT'S YEAH AND JUST YOU KNOW AND IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO OPPOSE IT FOR THAT REASON AND FOR THE OTHER REASON TOO I THINK THAT WHEN WE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF MAKING THINGS OPEN, WE GOT TO STICK WITH THOSE THINGS AND I GET IT. WE DON'T WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE COMING IN BUT I DO THINK IT DISENFRANCHIZES FOLKS THAT THAT DO NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO GET OVER HERE. I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO GET OVER HERE MYSELF. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS THAT THAT HAVE THAT SAME DILEMMA AND CALLING IN GIVES THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S IF YOU'RE A SENIOR AND YOU WANT TO COME OVER HERE AT NIGHT, YOU'RE TRYING TO DRIVE AROUND THE DARK. THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING TO DO IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY. SO MY RELATIVES DO DRIVE IT AT NIGHT. SO FOR THOSE REASONS AND FOR THE OTHER SURPRISES HERE I CANNOT SUPPORT SO AT THIS TIME SO WALKER YES. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WE BELIEVE A STAFF THE RULES WERE CLEAR ABOUT THE RECORDING OF MEETINGS. WE BELIEVE THAT RECORDING THEM WAS NOT AN INTENTIONAL THING. I CAN'T ANSWER AS WE'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT HOW OR WHY THAT STARTED THE VIDEO PART. THAT'S WHAT I'M MEANING TO SAY. MY APOLOGIES. WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TONIGHT IS CLEAR IF THE INTENT NEVER WAS TO HAVE THOSE RECORDED AND BROADCAST IN THAT FASHION THEN WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THE RULES CHANGE THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MEANT IF WE DO WANT TO TURN THAT HAPPY LITTLE ACCIDENT INTO A PERMANENT CHANGE THEN WE CAN DO THAT TOO. BUT IT WAS NOT THE INTENTION TO DO THAT AND DEVIATE FROM COUNCIL RULES. I SUPPORT THAT THE FACT THAT WE'RE RECORDING IT AND IF WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THAT WE CAN YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM WE WERE ALWAYS RECORDING IT. WE WERE JUST RECORDING AUDIO ONLY AND NOW WE'RE ADDING VIDEO TO IT BUT WE WERE ALWAYS RECORDING IT. THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. SO I MY MY THOUGHT WAS NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE RECORDED AND PUBLISH IT. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AN EXPECTED BEHAVIOR. I DID NOT EXPECT VIDEO TO BE ON DURING THE LISTENING SESSION. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S SURPRISING ME. SO IF NOBODY ELSE HAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT IT I'LL VOTE TO KEEP IT. BUT I THAT'S A SURPRISE TO ME IS ALL I'M SAYING. SO GO LOOK FOR A MOTION. OH YEAH BECAUSE WE WERE MOVED TO YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM I JUST A QUICK COMMENT I'M OKAY WITH THE VIDEO BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MONITOR IT BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THE LISTENING SESSIONS HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY SUCCESSFUL AT BRINGING PEOPLE IN TO TALK WITH US AND GET THEIR ISSUES AND CONCERNS RESOLVED AS OPPOSED TO BEING A FORMAT FOR BASICALLY POLITICAL SPEECHES AND AND SO YOU'VE GOT ONE GROUP THAT WANTS A FORUM TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND ANOTHER GROUP THAT JUST HAS QUESTIONS CONCERNS AND I'M GOING TO BE MUCH MORE ON THE SERVICE SIDE. I WANT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON AND I WANT THEM TO BE THERE. SO IF WE CAN JUST MONITOR THIS WE HAVE BEEN POSTING THEM THEY HAVE BEEN ON VIDEO. PEOPLE HAVE STILL BEEN COMING IN. BUT IF MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE FACT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE IF THAT DETERS PEOPLE AND IF WE SEE A DOWNTURN, I WOULD BE I WOULD BE OPEN TO LOOKING AT CHANGING THAT BACK. SO AT THIS POINT I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RULES WITH THE ONE MODIFICATION THAT THE VIDEO WILL BE POSTED ALONG WITH THE AUDIO. THE AUDIO VIDEO WILL BE POSTED SO MAYOR PRO TEM SHARE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. >> SO THIS WOULD BE BULLET IT'S A616 THE SIX BULLET ON THE LISTENING SESSION GUIDELINES WHICH IS AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON TONIGHT AND WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT YOU WOULD PREFER THAT IT READ AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDED AND THEN THE REST OF THAT THE TEXT OF THAT WOULD BE REMOVED . RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST IT'S NOT LIVE. THERE IS SOMETHING WITH I WOULD LEAVE THE IT'S NOT LIVE AGAIN OKAY NO LIVE BROADCAST SO JUST TO RESTATE WHAT I'M HEARING AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDED AND THEN PAREN NO LIVE BROADCAST PRIN THAT SEEMS RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED IN YOUR MOTION WITH REGARD TO THE STRIKETHROUGH THAT STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING WITH REGARD TO THE CALL IN OPTION. >> YEAH THAT WAS FINE. OKAY. THAT THAT STRIKE THAT OUT I AM OKAY. YEAH SO THAT'S MY MOTION AND OUR SECOND OH SORRY I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FROM NICK. UM CAN CAN STAFF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RATIONALE OF REMOVING THE CALL IN OPTION ? MAYOR PRO TEM OF MEMBERS MY RECOLLECTION OF OF THE PART OF IT WAS THAT IT WAS NEVER USED VERY MUCH. THE LAW HAS CHANGED WITH REGARD TO TO HAVING CALL INS SINCE THE MOST RECENT YOU KNOW COVID OBVIOUSLY. BUT THEN AFTER COVID LAST SESSION THEY CHANGED THE LAW AGAIN. SO CALL IN OPTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE REQUIRED IF ANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WERE PARTICIPATING REMOTELY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECALL AS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST WAS THE DESIRE TO HAVE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION AND THE DIALOG AND THAT GETS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED TO PULL OFF WHEN SOMEBODY IS ON THE TELEPHONE. THAT SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN RARE TIMES WHERE SOMEBODY HAS REQUESTED AN ACCOMMODATION OR SOME OTHER YOU KNOW, REASON THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON, YOU KNOW, HEALTH OR OTHERWISE. AND AND THERE'S BUT AN ACCOMMODATION GRANTED. SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO TO WEIGH IN ON AND GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON DOES IT IS IT A HUGE BURDEN LIKE I IT IS A HEAVY LIFT FOR STAFF TO SET UP THE CALL AN OPTION I MEAN I GUESS I'LL JUST SAY I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOMA AND I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T REALLY GET USED THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING AWAY ACCESSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T GET HERE I KNOW BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN MY KIDS WERE LITTLE THERE WAS NO WAY I CAN MAKE IT TO THESE MEETINGS LIKE IF I DID I HAD YOU KNOW IS LIKE A BIG TO DO RIGHT? AND SO I WOULD JUST RATHER KEEP THE OPTION AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE IF THEY NEED IT IF IT'S NOT A HUGE LIFT FOR STAFF, I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS OF KEEPING IT. AND THEN I ACTUALLY WOULD PREFER TO JUST CONTINUE TO HAVE NO VIDEO RECORDING. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE MOTION ON TABLE SO JUST BECAUSE I DO RECALL THE CONVERSATION I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THERE WERE PEOPLE TAKING PICTURES AND SCREENSHOTS OF PEOPLE SPEAKING AT LISTENING SESSIONS AND PUTTING THEM ON FACEBOOK AND IT WAS LIKE ONLINE BULLYING AND SO WE DECIDED TO JUST TAKE THAT THAT PART OF IT OUT OF THE EQUATION AND GRANTED ANYBODY CAN COME AND VIDEOTAPE US ON THEIR PHONES THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE. BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE JUST FOR THE BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO COME TO THE LISTENING SESSIONS MORE BECAUSE IT IS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND MORE COMFORTABLE. I WOULD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT AUDIO ONLY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION I AM AWARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE VIDEOTAPING LIVE THAT IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE 24 HOURS AFTER THE FACT AND I CORRECT AND THAT YEAH SO YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING IT AVAILABLE 24 HOURS LATER I'M IN SUPPORT OF HAVING IT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE A VIDEO EITHER AFTER LISTENING SESSION SO IF WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON IT WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S WHEN WE MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS FROM A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE PERSPECTIVE LET ME JUST SAY I'M HEARING THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MADE THAT MOTION TO STRIKE THE CALL IN OPTION AVAILABLE WHICH IS IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THEN TO EDIT THAT SIX BULLET TO AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDED AND THEN PROVIDES NO LIVE BROADCAST. SO MY RECOMMENDATION FROM A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE PERSPECTIVE IS THAT YOU NEED A SECOND AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A SECOND THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE ON THIS ATTACHMENT AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE AN ATTACHMENT THEN YOU CAN MOVE TO THE TO THE MOTIONS. I WAS ALL RIGHT. SO MAYOR NOW WOULD BE MAYOR PRO TEM NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO CALL THE VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I THOSE OPPOSED NO. OKAY. SO TODAY SO FAILS FAIL MOTION FAILS YET STREET THREE THREE MAYOR. MAYOR MAYOR MARIETTA YEAH OR TAKE THAT OUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE TAKE THAT OUT AND JUST MOVE THE CALENDARS FOR TODAY AND THEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE WHEN THE MAYOR RETURNS. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ON ESTABLISHING THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR SAYING NO OTHER COMMENTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I, I WISH IMPRESSIVE. 604 THE COUNT FOR THE CALENDAR COUNCIL DOWN THE RIGHT ONLY POINT SUCH GOOD MAYOR DO WE NEED TO POSTPONE THE OTHER PORTION OF THE AGAIN UNDER CAN THAT JUST BE PICKED UP AGAIN WITHOUT ANY PROCEDURAL FUNCTION MR. MANAGER MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS SO THE SECOND MOTION TALKS ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THOSE RULES OF PROCEDURE WHICH WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE ACTION ON AND THEN THE LISTENING SESSION GUIDELINES SO YOU COULD ACT ON THE THE RESOLUTION REMOVING THE REFERENCES AS TO THE LISTENING SESSION AND EXHIBITS B THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL OR IF WE COULD TAKE IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN CAN WE JUST LET IT STAND OR DO I NEED TO MOVE TO POSTPONE IT TILL I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO POSTPONE THE SECOND ITEM MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING MOVED SO SAY MIGHT THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY I I I'M WATCHING A SIX YEAR WE NOW MOVE TO SECTION FOUR HEARINGS AND RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT I WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM IN TURN PRESENT STAFF REPORT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IF REQUIRED THEN ASK FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND ACTION. A REMINDER TO ANY OF YOU TO ANYONE TO TESTIFY DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT WE HAVE A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT FOR SPEAKER ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY. THE SIGNING SHEET IS ON THE PODIUM AND CURIOUS YOU TO ADD YOUR INFORMATION AFTER YOU TESTIFY OR WHILE YOU ARE WAITING TO TESTIFY. OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 4.1. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AWARDING TO SALE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS SERIOUS AT 2025 E OUR CFO IS PRESENT IN THIS ITEM. >> GOOD EVENING ACTING MAYOR REAVIS, CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL. TODAY WE HAD THE BOND SALE ON THE 2025 ANY AND THIS IS FOR THE SALT SHED WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE NEXT SLIDE THIS MORNING WE HAD 11 BIDDERS AND AND YOU KNOW AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS LET ME GO BACK TO THE BOND TIMELINE. SO IN AUGUST THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE SALE AND IT STARTED THE 30 DAY REVERSE REFERENDUM THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS. AND THEN WE HAD OUR CREDIT RATING CALLS IN OCTOBER. WE HAD THE BOND SALE THIS MORNING AND WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS APPROXIMATELY A MONTH FROM TODAY. ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE WILL GET TO SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON THAT. AGAIN, WE ARE ONE OF 35 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS COUNTRYWIDE THAT HAVE THE THREE TRIPLE J'S I CAN I BELIEVE IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION ON BONDS. ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE WENT THROUGH THE RATINGS ON THIS ONE IN THIS PARTICULAR BOND WE ONLY HAD S&P RATE. THIS ONE KEEPS THE PRICE A LITTLE BIT LOWER ON BOND ISSUANCE COST TO JUST HAVE THE ONE RATING ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE AND THEN WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. >> SO IN THIS PARTICULAR BOND, THE PROJECT JUST NEEDS $12 MILLION AND IT'S AGAIN FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE SALT SHED AND FOR THE BUILDING OF THE SUCH A IT IS A 20 YEAR TERM BOND. THE PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE PAYING THE DEBT SERVICE ON THESE BONDS WITH THE PREMIUM THAT WE RECEIVED ON THESE BONDS WAS JUST OVER $800,000 A PREMIUM. SO THE FINAL AMOUNT OF THE PAR THAT WE WILL BE ISSUING THE DEBT FOR IT IF THE COUNCIL SHOULD AWARD IT THIS EVENING IS 11,245,000. WE HAD 11 BIDDERS UBS WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER AT A TRUE INTEREST COST AT 3.62% AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN JUST SOME OTHER INFORMATION WE HAVE ELIZABETH BERGMAN FROM BAKER TILLY ON ON THE CALL TOO. AND WE HAVE JULIE EDINGTON FROM Q TECH ROCK I'M CARL. SURE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OF THOSE? >> BAKER TILLY DID SHARE SOME INFORMATION THAT THERE WAS 562 UNIQUE EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT WENT OUT AND WAS LOOKING AT OUR BOND SALE INFORMATION IN THE MARKET. SO WE HAD A LOT OF ATTENTION LOOKING OUT THERE TODAY BECAUSE ALL CONCERNED THERE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR LORI OF QUESTIONS SO SO I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO GUZMAN BELOW SO THE ACTING MAYOR I'D MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SALE GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS SERIES 2025 AND THE ORIGINAL AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 11,865,000 FIXING THEIR FORMAL SPECIFICATIONS SO NO THAT I'M SORRY THE NOTICE IS YEP A 1,245,000 FIXING THE FORMAL SPECIFICATIONS DIRECTING THEIR EXECUTION AND DELIVERY AND PROVIDING FOR THEIR PAYMENT. THANK YOU. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY. I PROPOSE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 4.2. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO AUTHORIZE UP TO AS TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF SALE TAX EXEMPT GENERAL OBLIGATION CHP BOND MONTHS SERIOUS 2020 6BIC 4% IN THIS TIME LORI. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M ACTING MAYOR RIVAS IN COUNCIL THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AS PRIYANKA BRINGS UP THE POWER POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE AND IT IS THE START OF THE PROCESS TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT. AND SO WITH THAT INFORMATION AS SHE'S OBTAINING IT HERE AGAIN WE ARE LOOKING FOR AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO BOND UP TO $28 MILLION FOR THE GARAGE CURRENTLY IN THE CIP IT IS LISTED AT 25.9 MILLION BUT THE BIDS WILL BE GOING OUT IN DECEMBER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BETWEEN THAT 25.9 AND THE $28 MILLION THERE IS SUFFICIENT I WOULD CALL CEILING SHOULD THE BIDS COME IN HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. SO AGAIN IT'S FOR THE FLEET GARAGE AND IT WILL BE A 20 YEAR TERM. THE PROJECT THE GARAGE PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE COPY AS YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM 2016. SO IT'S BEEN IN THE C P FOR NINE YEARS AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING THIS FORWARD NOW TO ISSUE THE DEBT IN 2016 ON FEBRUARY 2ND ON THE NEXT SLIDE . SO AGAIN THIS SETS OFF THE TIMELINE ONCE THE COUNCIL SO THEY AUTHORIZE IT THIS EVENING WE WOULD GO THROUGH A 30 DAY REVERSE REFERENDUM PERIOD. IT WOULD EXPIRE IN DECEMBER. WE WOULD HAVE OUR CREDIT RATING CALL IN JANUARY AND WE WOULD HAVE THE BOND SALE DATE OF FEBRUARY SECOND AND THE PROCEEDS WOULD COME IN APPROXIMATELY A MONTH LATER AND THEN THE PROJECT CAN GET STARTED AND BEFORE YOU IS THE RESOLUTION SHOULD THE COUNCIL WANT TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF THESE BONDS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? HELLO. NO QUESTIONS. SO I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. LOOK SORRY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO REMIND MYSELF MAY MAYOR PRO TEM AND MISS ECONOMY SCHULER THIS INCLUDES THIS IS IN THAT NEW THAT THIS IS IN THAT NEW PLACE WE ARE JUST TO MAKE SURE I TIE THESE TWO TOGETHER RIGHT THE SALT SHED IS GOING WHERE WE'RE TEARING DOWN THE BUILDING AND THE NEW FLEET GARAGE IS GOING WHERE THE SALT SHED WHAT DO I HAVE IT BACKWARDS ACTING MAYOR THIS AND COUNCILMEMBER SANTORO THE SALT SHED IS GOING I WOULD SAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF WHERE WE JUST ACQUIRED PROPERTY AND THEN WHERE THE SALT SHED CURRENTLY IS AND WHERE THE BUILDING THAT THE CITY PURCHASED ALL THAT WILL GET TORN DOWN AND THE NEW GARAGE WILL GO IN BOTH THOSE PARCELS GREAT AND THESE BOND SUPPORT BOTH THAT TEAR DOWN AND RECONSTRUCTION FOR THE GARAGE . YES. YEAH GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ULTIMATELY MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. SO LOOK FOR WHICH INTO A JOB I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU WANT. SORRY I COULD HAVE DONE THAT WHILE I WAS IN THERE, COULDN'T I? SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAX EXEMPT GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS IN THE PROPOSED AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $28 MILLION. >> SO THOSE IN FAVOR I I WHICH IMPRESSES 60I THANK YOU . OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 4.3 THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY'S ORDINANCE TO INCREASE WASTEWATER RATES. OUR DEPUTY FINANCE MANAGER IS PRESENT IN THIS ITEM. CARRIE GOOD EVENING ACTING MAYOR RIVAS AND CITY COUNCIL. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE INFORMATION FOR THE UTILITY FUNDS AND THE 2026 RATES WE GO TO OH I HAVE ME HERE I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE BUDGET CALENDAR. SO OF COURSE TONIGHT IS THE UTILITY RATE HEARING. THEN NEXT WEEK NOVEMBER 24TH WILL BE A DISCUSSION ON THE 2026 BUDGET AND 2026 TAX LEVY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN DECEMBER 8TH WILL BE THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ON DECEMBER 15TH IS THE DATE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL ADOPT THE FINAL 2026 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET . >> SO THE INFORMATION I'M PRESENTING THIS EVENING IT'S A REVIEW OF WHAT WAS SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AT THE OCTOBER 20TH STUDY SESSION AND AT THAT MEETING UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT SCOTT ANDERSON, WATER RESOURCES MANAGER BRIAN GREENALL AND SOLID WASTE PROJECT COORDINATOR LAURA HORNER PROVIDED A DETAILED OVERVIEW. I WON'T GO INTO THAT SAME LEVEL OF DETAIL TONIGHT AND WE'LL JUST GO TO OUR KIND OF BRING A BRIEF RECAP BUT ALL THREE OF THEM ARE HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER MY PRESENTATION. SO WATER UTILITY FUND AS A REMINDER WE ARE HOLDING WATER RATES FLAT FOR 2026 BECAUSE THE WATER UTILITY FUND STILL HAS A HEALTHY WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE THAT IS STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE UPCOMING CAPITAL NEEDS THAT ARE FORECASTED. WE ARE EXPECTING A SMALL REVENUE INCREASE OF ABOUT 5000 YOU CAN SEE THERE COMPARED TO 25 JUST FOR THE LAB SERVICE FEES. BUT THEN THAT IS OFFSET BY THERE'S A DECREASE IN THE CELL TOWER REVENUE THAT COMES INTO THIS FUND BY 26,000. BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGE FROM 2025 IS WITH OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY. SO THAT IS GOING UP ABOUT 1.8 MILLION COMPARED TO 2025 AND THEN THIS IS THE 2025 RATES WHICH WILL ALSO BE THE 2026 RATES. SO NO CHANGES PROPOSED FOR 26 AND THEN THE LONG TERM MODEL YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ARE SHOWING THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE IN GREEN WHICH IS SIGNIFYING IT IS A HEALTHY CONDITION FORECASTED OUT COMPARED TO THE GOAL. NEXT UP THE WASTEWATER UTILITY FUND OUR SEWER FUND. SO FOR THE WASTEWATER UTILITY WE ARE PROPOSING A 6% RATE INCREASE FOR 2026 AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE OVERALL PROGRAM INCOME IS ONLY SHOWING GOING UP 3% A LITTLE OVER 3% AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE DID LOWER WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING FOR THE CITY SAC FEES. THE NEW CITIES ACT FEE REVENUE JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN CURRENTLY. SO THAT WENT DOWN FROM WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY PROJECTING AT 600,000 DOWN TO 200,000 JUST BEING CONSERVATIVE AND LOOKING AT HOW THAT'S COMING IN NOW THE BIGGEST CHANGE BUT IN BOTH REVENUES AND EXPENSES IN THIS 2026 BUDGET IS B IS DUE TO THE VERY LARGE NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S AROUND $29 MILLION PROJECT AND WE WILL BE ISSUING BONDS FOR THAT BUT THEN THIS FUND WILL BE PAYING BACK THAT DEBT. SO FOR THE WASTEWATER UTILITY WE'RE PROPOSING A 6% RATE INCREASE FOR 2026 SO THAT WILL BE $6.01 PER EVERY 1000 GALLONS AND THEN BECAUSE OF THIS LARGE CAPITAL PROJECT THAT'S COMING TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL SEE SOME STRAIN ON THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE LOOKING OUT THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE PROJECTION. YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE IT DIPS DOWN INTO THE RED AND WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING BELOW 80% OF OUR WORKING CAPITAL GOAL. BUT THE FUND ITSELF IS NOT EXPECTED TO GO NEGATIVE JUST BELOW WHERE WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE FOR THE GOAL AND THE BALANCE IS PROJECTED TO GO BACK UP IN FUTURE YEARS. SO ONE THING THAT COULD HELP STRENGTHEN THIS IS IF THOSE CITY SAC FEE REVENUES ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING OR WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING SO FAR. SO THAT WOULD HELP. NEXT IS THE STORM WATER UTILITY FUND SIMILAR TO THE WATER UTILITY WE ARE PROPOSING NO RATE INCREASE FOR STORMWATER FOR NEXT YEAR AND THIS FUND CONTINUES TO HAVE A HEALTHY WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS THE BIGGEST INCREASES HERE TO OUR CAPITAL OUTLAYS. SO YOU CAN SEE $450,000 MORE IN CAPITAL OUTLAY AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME RELATED ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR PROJECTS THAT'S SHOWING UP IN THAT MATERIAL AND SERVICES LINE AND JUST SHOWING YOU THE 25 RATES, THE 2026 RATES WILL BE THE SAME. SO NO CHANGE IS PROPOSED AND THEN THE STORMWATER LONG TERM MODEL SHOWING A HEALTHY WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE AND DOES IT SLIGHTLY DIP DOWN IN 2029 SO IT'S GOING BELOW THAT 90% BUT COMING BACK UP FORECASTED COME BACK UP IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS AND THEN THE SOLID WASTE UTILITY FUND. SO JUST A BRIEF RECAP. SO IN AUGUST 2024 THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO UPDATE THE GARBAGE RATE STRUCTURE BY INCREASING THE PRICE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CARD SIZES AND ADDING AND ALSO ADDING AN EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE OPTION. SO THE GOALS ARE TO MAKE THE SYSTEM FAIRER, ENCOURAGE MORE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS PARTICIPATION PRECIPITATION. I CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN SORRY AND SUPPORT LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY SO THIS DIRECTION IS BASED ON THE 2024 PAY AS YOU THROW RATE CITY AND WHICH REVIEWED COLLECTION COSTS SERVICE LEVELS AND RECEIVED COMMUNITY INPUT. SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED 2026 GARBAGE RATES BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION SO THIS ALSO INCLUDES THAT NEW EVERY OTHER WEEK SMALL CART OPTION AND STAYING WITH THE SMALL CART SAVES ABOUT 6% COMPARED TO 2025 AND THEN THE NEW EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE IS NEARLY A 30% CHEAPER OPTION THAN THE CURRENT SMALL WEEKLY RATE AND THEN BUT THEN THE LARGE CART USERS WILL SEE AN INCREASE AND 38% AND THEN OVERALL JUST WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING WE'LL KNOW BETTER ONCE THIS ROLLS OUT BUT THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WOULD BE EXPECTED TO SEE A DECREASE AND THEN THE SLIDE SHOWS ALL OF THE SOLID WASTE RATES SO ALL THE SERVICES EXCEPT GARBAGE INCLUDE THAT STANDARD 3.5% CONTRACT ESCALATOR AND THEN JUST TO RECAP ORGANICS RECYCLING STARTED IN MARCH OF 2022 AND JUST LIKE REGULAR RECYCLING IT'S PAID BY ALL HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE CITY COLLECTION SERVICE AND RESIDENTS CAN OPT IN FOR A CART AT ANY TIME AND CURRENTLY THE PARTICIPATION IS AT 32%. SO THIS IS THAT TIMELINE THAT YOU'VE SEEN WHERE THE CART CHART CHANGES AND THE ROLLOUT OF THE EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE HERE SO RESIDENTS WHO SIGN UP BY DECEMBER 15TH WILL RECEIVE CARDS BY THE END OF MARCH AND THOSE THAT SIGN UP BY FEBRUARY FEBRUARY 16TH WILL RECEIVE THEM BY THE END OF APRIL AND THOSE REQUESTS CAN BE MADE ONLINE OR BY PHONE OR IN PERSON HERE AT CITY HALL OR AT COMMUNITY EVENTS. BUT THAT NEW EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE WILL START IN JANUARY . SO WE ARE FORECASTING ABOUT A 5% INCREASE IN REVENUES BASED ON THE NEW PRICING STRUCTURE AND THE HIGHER REVENUES FROM LARGE GARBAGE CARTS IN OUR FORECAST WOULD BE OFFSETTING SOME OF THE REDUCTIONS FROM CUSTOMERS THAT ARE CHOOSING TO GO TO SMALLER CARTS OR SWITCHING TO THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE IT'S JUST A FORECAST THOUGH SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT CLOSELY TO SEE HOW CUSTOMERS ADJUST UNDER THIS NEW PLAN AND WE'LL UPDATE OUR PROJECTIONS AS WE GO. THE LARGE INCREASE IN EXPENSES IN 2025 IS DUE TO THE CURBSIDE CLEANUP BECAUSE 2026 WILL BE A CURBSIDE CLEANUP YEAR. NOW THAT WE DO THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR WE DO THAT ON THE EVENINGS AND THEN THIS IS THE LONG TERM MODEL. SO WE'RE TRACKING TO MEET OUR WORKING CAPITAL GOAL FOR THE SOLID WASTE FUND AND THEN SHOWING THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR CURBSIDE CLEANUP WHICH IS A LARGE EXPENSE. SO JUST PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER NO CHANGES FOR WATER OR STORMWATER WASTEWATER THERE'S A 6% INCREASE AND THEN JUST EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR SOLID WASTE WITH ALL THE CHANGES WE HAVE AS BEING 1% DECREASE. AND THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL I'LL JUST FOR TONIGHT I'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE VERY BOTTOM THE YEARLY IMPACT SO ON THE LEFT ARE SMALL HOUSEHOLD USING THE NEW EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE COULD SAVE ABOUT $30 A YEAR AND THEN GOING OVER IT GOES KIND OF GOES FROM SMALL USAGE MEDIUM LARGE TO FOR AN EXAMPLE SO THEN AND THESE SCENARIOS ARE SMALL USAGE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE A $10 PER YEAR INCREASE MEDIUM $84 AND THEN LARGE $165 FOR THE YEAR AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS WHICH OF COURSE WE WILL ONLY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR GOING OVER WHICH IS YOU KNOW A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'VE COVERED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS. I KNOW YOU REFER TO THAT EARLIER THAT YOU REALLY GOT INTO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL WITH THE COUNCIL IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND I JUST HOPE THAT AS WE HAVE OUR CONVERSATION THAT FOLKS REMEMBER THAT THAT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL MEETINGS PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE DAY AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU AND STAFF HAS DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT AND ALSO OUR WORK THAT WE'VE DONE HERE TO TRANSFORM THE PROCESS AND I MEANT QUESTIONS JUST A POINT OF ORDER AND WHERE WE GO SO THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. RIGHT? OKAY. SO I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC. THANKS. SO THIS IS THE NEXT OKAY . OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'LL I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS PLEASE COME UP OR FACE ANY PARTICULAR WAIVER PLACES PLEASE PLEASE SIGN YOUR NAME OR AFTERWARDS IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND. YOU OKAY? YES, I'M RICHARD HELLER AND I'M A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT AND I HAVE A LITTLE QUESTION ON THE AGENDA. BUT I HAD THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS THE THE PMP A LITTLE BIT. OH, THAT WOULD BE IN A AT A LATER TIME IN A MEETING. IS THAT WHAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT? YES. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE ALSO WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND I GUESS I HAD A QUESTION ON THE PROTOCOL WHETHER WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL OR EVERYTHING GOES TO THE QUESTION. I MEAN EVERYTHING GOES TO THE COUNCIL. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THESE SPEAKERS WERE UP HERE NOBODY ASKED US IF WE'RE MAYOR PRO TEM A MEMBER. >> SO RIGHT NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAVE IS ON ITEM 4.3 WHICH IS THE WASTEWATER RATES. THAT IS THE ITEM THAT WE'RE TAKING PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY TESTIMONY ON THAT ITEM, THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PMP WHICH IS THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, THAT'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA LATER AND WE WANT TO KEEP YOUR TESTIMONY ON THAT ITEM IN THAT PUBLIC HEARING SEPARATELY. OKAY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS NOTICE THAT I GOT THAT SAID OH UP HERE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT TRUE. NO, IT'S TRUE. BUT MAYOR MEMBERS PMP YEP. SO WE'RE ON ITEM 4.3 AND THEN THE PURPOSE ITEM 4.8 SO IT'LL BE IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. OH I THOUGHT IT WAS 3.9 OR SOMETHING. YES 4.8 IS THE PUMP 4.0. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THAT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THE FOUR HUNDREDS. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD AND SO WE CAN SPEAK LATER. PLEASE COME BACK AFTER. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WE SHOULD SPEAK ON? THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE I'D BE TALKING ABOUT THE GARBAGE. I REALLY DON'T. MY NAME IS MATT LARSON. I LIVE IN ON LOGAN AVENUE. I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME WAS HERE IS WHEN WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT I CAN WAIT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM OF MEMBERS THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON WASTEWATER THE GARBAGE WHICH SHE TALKED ABOUT THE GARBAGE PRECINCT. SO THAT'S PART THAT'S ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE WASTE . I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE SHE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND THE GARBAGE AT THE SAME TIME. >> YEAH. SO IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR YET THE PRESENTATION WAS ON ALL THE UTILITY RATES AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THEM EACH IN ORDER. SO 4.3 IS THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE ACTING MAYOR IS ON RIGHT NOW. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST BECAUSE SHE TALKED ABOUT PART OF IT AND IT'S KIND OF IT'S A STICKING POINT. YOU YOU GUYS YOU PROMISED NOTHING WOULD GO UP TO GO UP 38% IS CRAZY. I'LL COME BACK WITH A YOU SAY THERE SO YEAH OKAY SO JUST JUST SO THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION TOO I THINK THE THE THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE HERE IS JUST MISSING THE THE ADDITIONAL PAGE I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S PROVIDING THE CONFUSION. SO JUST JUST SO EVERYBODY EVERYBODY KNOWS MAYOR IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT I THE AGENDA YOU MAY HAVE SEEN UP THERE PICKED UP ONLY GOES DOWN TO 316 WHICH ONLY INCLUDES ALL OF OUR OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY DID A NICE JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WALK OUR WAY THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS YOU KNOW, 4.3 WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE INCREASED WASTEWATER RATES AND THEN NEXT WE'LL COVER THE ITEMS FOR ON SOLID WASTE AND REFUSE WHICH IS 4.4 AND YOU KNOW THOUGH THEY'RE ON AND THEIR FOURTH AND THEN LATER ON WHICH IS THE AGENDA YOU DON'T HAVE AFTER WE GET THROUGH ALL THESE ONES HERE WE'LL GET TO THAT EIGHT POINT THAT 4.81 WHICH IS THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PIECE. SO WE'LL TRY TO GET TO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. HOPEFULLY THAT CLARIFIES A LITTLE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY WON'T BE AS CONFUSED AS I WAS SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS THERE. YEAH. SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THE WASTEWATER HOW WE CAN CUT IT? >> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ANYBODY ON THE PHONE? MAYOR PRO TEM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE THAT SAID CAN I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO OKAY SO WHEN YOU'RE SO MOVED TO CLOSE THE HEARING FOR WASTEWATER RATES SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND AGAINST WHAT WAS YOUR MESSAGE SIX ZERO 909 OUR NEXT ITEM IS 4.40 SORRY. OH. COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 4.3? IT'S OUR COUNCIL. THE OTHER SANDRA YOU HAD SOMETHING? OH NO. I'M GOING TO SAVE MY COMMENTS TOO WHEN WE GET TO THE GARBAGE STUFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. SO I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL. I GET A MOTION ON ITEM 4.3. VERY HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION . I'LL MOVE A MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING A PDX A CITY CODE TO INCREASE THE WASTEWATER SERVICE RATES AS INDICATED IN CHAPTER 11. SO THOSE IN FAVOR SAY IT'S AGAINST BUSH MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 4.4. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY'S ORDINANCE. AMEND IS AMENDED SOLID WASTE AND REFUSE COLLECTION FEES. AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER SO WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AGAINST THIS SOLID WASTE I DON'T KNOW IS THE NEXT WEEK I'M SORRY. HEY, HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? OKAY. MY NAME IS MATT LARSON. I CAME HERE JUST FOR SOMETHING LATER ON IN THE MEETING TODAY BUT ONE I'VE KIND OF I'LL BRING IT UP RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE I CAME HERE YEARS AGO WHEN YOU GUYS WANTED TO BRING THE GARBAGE INTO THE CITY AND I WAS AGAINST IT BECAUSE I LIKE THE I RATHER HAVE THE BUSINESSES ACTUALLY FIGHT FOR FOR OUR BUSINESS THAT WE CAN CONTROL IT IN TO SEE THAT IN WE ARE PROMISED THAT WE THE WHOLE GOAL WAS TO HAVE LESS TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE ROADS AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WE CAN DO EVERY OTHER WEEK SAME TRUCK IS GOING TO COME DOWN EVERY SINGLE ROAD UNLESS EVERYBODY SWITCHES. SO WHICH ONE IS IT? AND A BUNCH OF YOU GUYS ARE NEW FROM WHEN THIS HAPPENS BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO SEE A PERCENTAGE GO UP 38% OF ANYTHING IS OUT OF CONTROL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS IF YOU GUYS WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK AT EVERY LITTLE THING THAT EVERY HALF A PERCENT PEOPLE KEEP SAYING OH IT'S ONLY A HALF A PERCENT ON MY CABLE BILL. IT'S ONLY A YOU KNOW, THREE QUARTER PERCENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE MALL OF AMERICA. WE'VE GOT A GREAT CITY. YOUR STAFF IS PHENOMENAL. IS I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE BUT TO SEE THE THING TODAY WITH THE POLICE WAS PHENOMENAL LOVE TO SEE THAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE ASKING FOR MONEY. WE HAVE HENNEPIN COUNTY PEOPLE LOOKING FOR MONEY. WE HAVE THE STATE LOOKING FOR MONEY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOOKING FOR MONEY AND I HAVE 3 OR 4 NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ALL RETIRED RIGHT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU COULD SAY WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TRASH BUT IT'S EVERYTHING. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE US. MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER COULD KEEP SCORE OF WHO SAYS NO TO THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND KEEP SCORE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE SAYING NO ENOUGH BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EASY TO SAY YES BUT EVERYTHING ADDS UP SO DARN QUICK THAT WE'RE LOSING THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS. WE WANT TO DO FOUR THINGS IN THAT THINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE SO NICE BEAUTIFUL BATHROOM, OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW IT'S $1 MILLION FOR A BATHROOM FOR TEN BATHROOMS SO YOU GOT TO PLEASE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT ON EVERY LITTLE DECISION WE MAKE BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY TO SAY YES BUT ALSO FIGHT THE FIGHT THE CONTRACTORS PUT UP YOUR YOU KNOW, A BIGGER FIGHT TO LOWER THE LOWER THE COST. HOW CAN WE REDUCE COSTS BECAUSE I NEVER HEAR ANYBODY SAYING WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REDUCE THE COSTS FOR EVERYBODY ? I'LL COME BACK LATER ON TONIGHT. YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WE SHOULD SPEAK ON THE SOLID WASTE AND REFUSE COLLECTION FEES PRIYANKA DO WE HAVE ANY BODY ON LINE PHONE? PRETTY MUCH MAYOR PRO TEM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE COUNCIL. THE PUBLIC HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. COULD I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED RIGHT. COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION ITEM 4.4 YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KATHY ALEXANDER THANK YOU. SO MY COMMENTS ARE WELL WE HAVEN'T USED THOSE YET. I'M SORRY I OH SORRY ABOUT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALEXANDER THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING I, I WISH MY SUCCESS PLUS A60 NOW BECAUSE REMEMBER THE OTHER CENTER. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU. SO MY COMMENTS MIGHT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ADDRESS THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTIONS. THERE MAY BE A PORTION OF IT IN MY COMMENTS. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS THANK YOU ACTUALLY BECAUSE I'M A FAN OF THESE CHANGES TO THE SOLID WASTE AND HERE'S WHY THE VERY IT'S FASCINATING TO ME I'VE HAD OF ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD AROUND THE THE GARBAGE ASIDE FROM THE YES, I LIKE COLLECTION. NO I DON'T LIKE GOING YOU KNOW THAT WHICH IS A DEBATE THAT CONTINUES IN THIS CITY LONG AFTER THE VOTE HAS BEEN CAST. I I HAVE PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THEY THINK PAYING WHAT THEY PAY TO PUT OUT A GARBAGE CAN THAT HAS NOTHING IN IT EVERY WEEK IS SILLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GARBAGE FOR THAT ESPECIALLY MY I'M GOING TO CALL THIS ELEANOR'S BILL WHEN IT GETS DONE EVENTUALLY BECAUSE MY GOOD MY MY NEIGHBOR ELEANOR LIVES ON COLFAX AVENUE ASKED FOR THIS EXPLICITLY RIGHT AS A SENIOR SHE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH GARBAGE. WHAT SHE WANTED WAS HEY, COULD WE SHARE GARBAGE ACROSS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE OR WHATEVER? RIGHT. TRYING TO FIND WAYS FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY PAY ON FOR THINGS WHEN THEY DON'T USE THEM. I AM MYSELF A SINGLE PERSON IN MY HOUSE AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE MY MY WIFE IS NOT LIVING IN TOWN SO I BARELY HAVE ENOUGH GARBAGE FOR EVERY TWO WEEKS LET ALONE YOU KNOW ONCE A WEEK AND THAT'S BECAUSE I USE THE COMPOSTING AND THE RECYCLING A LOT. AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AS A CITY WHO'S ADOPTED A SUSTAINABILITY MODEL WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PUT THINGS IN DIFFERENT BINS. YOU CAN HAVE A LARGE RECYCLING BIN WITH AND AS MANY OF THOSE AS YOU WANT. THAT'S AN ATTEMPT TO OFFSET WHAT GOES IN OUR LANDFILLS. AND SO I DON'T I UNDERSTAND THE THE COMMENTS AND I GET THAT I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING WE'RE ASKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PUT MOST OF THE STUFF INTO A LANDFILL TO PAY MORE FOR THAT THAN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S CORRECT. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. I APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AND I I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN MAKE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE IN NEED OF SOME RELIEF AROUND SOME OF THIS STUFF AND PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T CHOSEN TO TO TO KIND OF MODIFY WHAT THEIR BEHAVIORS ARE WHATEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT TOO. SO WITH THAT I'LL BE VOTING FOR IT. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. I'M HERE FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING WITH THIS. I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT TO TO WORK AND NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THINGS AND GIVEN THE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO KNOWING THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS FROM THE 60S AND 70S, IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE HIGHER LEVY INCREASES BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SOLID WASTE. THE THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED WITH FOR THIS AND IF EVEN PAYING ATTENTION WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE SINCE LIKE FEBRUARY THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT. THIS IS A CULMINATION OF 4 OR 5 MEETINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO TALK ABOUT SOLID WASTE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO GIVEN THAT THE CONTRACTS ARE UP IN 2026. AND SINCE WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THE INCREASES IN SOLID WASTE REALLY IMPACT FAMILIES THE PRICING STRUCTURE. MY CONCERN IS WON'T CHANGE PEOPLE'S HABITS. THEY'LL PAY LESS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT MOVE DOWN TO A SMALLER CAN BUT THEY'RE STILL PUTTING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF GARBAGE AND SIMPLY MOVING TO A SMALLER CAN DOESN'T CHANGE HABITS TO ME IT FEELS LIKE THE FAMILIES WHO SIMPLY CANNOT BECAUSE LIKE ME THEY HAVE THREE, 4 OR 5 KIDS CANNOT MOVE DOWN TO A MEDIUM OR SMALL CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING EVERY OTHER WEEK BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIAPERS TO PILE UP. AND SO TO ME WHAT IT IS IS IT'S FAMILIES WHO LIVE IN TOWN THAT ARE SUBSIDIZING LOWER USERS, LOWER GARBAGE GENERATORS AND TO ME THE CONCERN IS THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE FAMILIES OUT OF BLOOMINGTON INSTEAD OF TO BLOOMINGTON. AND SO WITH THIS SOLID WASTE I UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT AND THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT BUT I TRULY FEEL LIKE IS PUTTING OUR FAMILIES AND BLOOMINGTON AT A DISADVANTAGE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST CAN'T DO BECAUSE I'M IN THAT STAGE OF LIFE. I'M IN THIS STAGE LIFE WHERE A BIRTHDAY PARTY PUTS ME OVER BY LITERALLY DOUBLE. I CAN'T FIT ENOUGH. I HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK AND SLOWLY PUT IT IN AND WAIT BECAUSE AND EVERY TIME YOU HAVE AN OPEN LID, EVERY TIME THERE'S AN EXTRA BAG AND SUCH A CHARGE AND SO ALL I SEE IN THIS IS THAT THERE'S CONTINUE TO BE MORE CHARGES WITHOUT ANY BENEFIT THAT WE CAN CAN CONSIDERABLY SEE TO DRIVE THOSE HABITS. SO WITH THAT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. SO THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I UM I THINK IN 2024 WE DID A PAY AS YOU THROW STUDY AND THERE WERE PRETTY ROBUST FINDINGS AND YOU KNOW I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL THAT STAFF DID THAT BECAUSE IT WAS I FELT LIKE REALLY COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT WHEN YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES PEOPLE'S HABITS DO CHANGE. SO I ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY GOT THE SMALL GARBAGE CART IN OUR HOUSE AT OUR HOUSE AND MY HUSBAND WAS LIKE WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I MEAN HE WAS KIND OF AT IT BUT GUESS WHAT? I CLEANED OUT THE FRIDGE THIS WEEKEND AND I NORMALLY WOULD JUST THROW STUFF IN THE GARBAGE AND I WAS EMPTYING CONTAINERS AND LIKE SEPARATING THINGS AND I HAD A BIG OLD BAG OF ORGANICS AND A SMALL ONE OF GARBAGE. RIGHT LIKE SO AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S HOW EVERYBODY IS BUT THE EVIDENCE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THESE KINDS OF CHANGES DO SUPPORT BEHAVIOR CHANGE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE THESE CHANGES WERE BASED ON A STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OUR LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PAGE. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO AGAIN AND THAT STARTED BACK IN 2024. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE. YEAH THERE WAS ANOTHER PRESENT TO MAKE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS NOW BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO TO GET PEOPLE TO START CHANGING THEIR HABITS. WE JUST WERE FIGHTING THE BURNSVILLE LANDFILL BECAUSE THEY'RE INCREASING IN SIZE. 40% OF WHAT GOES IN THAT LANDFILL IS ORGANICS RIGHT? WE NEED TO START ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ADD IN RIGHT AND INCENTIVIZING THEM TO CHANGE THEIR HABITS. AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THESE CHANGES AND LIKE ANY OF BIG CHANGE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ADJUST . BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT . YEAH, THAT'S YEAH. THANK YOU. SO MAYBE A LITTLE YEAH. I WANTED TO GIVE THE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT AN ANSWER TO THE 30% INCREASE THAT NUMBER THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF KNOW? SO WE'VE GOT THE EVERY OTHER YEAR SPRING CLEANUP AND TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CALL THE BULKY WASTE REMOVAL THING. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS BECAUSE I HEARD ONE OF THE PRESENTERS THAT CAME UP HERE HAD HAD A DISCUSS THAT THIS WAS LIKE A 30% INCREASE. CAN WE RESPOND TO THAT AT ALL ? OH YES, COUNCILMEMBER. I'LL ASK CITY STAFF TO COME FORWARD AND CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. ACTING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THE 30% INCREASE IN THE GARBAGE IS FOR THE LARGE GARBAGE CART. SO HAD WE KEPT OUR SOLID WASTE RATES SIMILAR TO THE STRUCTURE WE'VE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS WITH THE NEW CONTRACT THAT INCREASE WOULD BE PROBABLY ABOUT 4.5% ACROSS ALL OF OUR GARBAGE CARTS SERVICE LEVELS. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE STANDING IN PREVIOUS YEARS. THERE IS A LARGER INCREASE IN 2026 ON THE LARGER GARBAGE CART AND THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE RESULTS OF THIS PAY AS YOU THROW STUDY BASED ON HOW OUR CONSULTANT HAS ANTICIPATED RESIDENTS WILL MOVE THEIR THEIR CART SIZES MAY SHIFT AND TO MAKE THE WHOLE THE PROGRAM WHOLE IN OUR IN OUR REVENUE SO THERE IS A LARGER INCREASE ON OUR LARGE GARBAGE CART AND THE THE SMALL GARBAGE CART IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE A REDUCTION IN COST. SO IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT THAN PREVIOUS YEARS AND SO IT'S A 30% INCREASE ACROSS ALL FOLKS AT IT THAT'S 38% THAT'S 30%. THE OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED AND SO IF I COULD THERE IF I COULD ASK THE ROADS YOU KNOW ONE OF THE WE HAD THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND I'M I'M STRUGGLING TO WRITE THEM ALL DOWN HERE AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE OCLC COMMITTEE. ONE OF THEM WAS ROADS NOISE AND SMELLS AND IT WAS A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAD IN THAT LIST OF ITEMS AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THE SPEAKER HAD BROUGHT FORWARD WAS THIS IDEA OF OF THE ROADS. IN FACT WHEN YOU GO EVERY OTHER WEEK THAT THAT WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS. IS THAT IS THAT THE CASE WITH THIS WITH THIS PROPOSAL OF GOING OUT EVERY OTHER WEEK ACTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN NO, THAT IS NOT THE CASE THAT THE GARBAGE THE MAJORITY OF HOMES ARE STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A WEEKLY COLLECTION AND SO THAT TRUCK IS GOING TO BE DRIVING DOWN EACH ROAD EVERY WEEK AND THEN WE JUST SKIP IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SKIPPING THOSE HOMES THAT ARE EVERY OTHER WEEK. SO YOU KNOW, IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR MAKING SOME I JUST WANT TO GET THAT CLARIFIED IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I MISS STAFF FROM THAT SPEAKER THAT I THINK OF JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ANSWERING ALL OF THE SPEAKER'S QUESTIONS. GO ALL RIGHT. WELL I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND I THINK YOU ARE YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF OUTLINING SPECIFICALLY THE REASONS WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT I SUPPORT US MOVING FORWARD THIS NOW WHAT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, TO MY MY COLLEAGUE HERE TO ME HERE IS THAT YEAH, I HEAR YOU BECAUSE I HAD THAT SAME SAME THOUGHT IN MY MIND TOO AS WELL. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, FORMER COUNCILMEMBER SPENCER BROUGHT THAT SAME IDEA FORWARD ABOUT THE WATER RATES AND YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THERE IS THERE IS A ASPECT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGER FAMILY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A LOT OF IMPACT AND YOU CAN'T GET AROUND THE DRIVERS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN'T GET AROUND DIAPERS. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. I'D LOVE TO GO TO EVERY OTHER WEEK AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THE PROBLEMS WHEN WE TRY TO SET UP THE ACCESSIBILITY NOW I MEAN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. SO LET ME PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT. BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO. YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUE PUT IT RIGHT IF WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN BURNSVILLE, WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. WE CANNOT FORGET OUR LARGE FAMILIES AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO START AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO PAY A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BURDEN. BUT WE DID LOOK TO FIND A WAY IN WHICH TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT. AND JUST SO FOLKS KNOW, YOU CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL RECYCLING BIN. YEAH, MOST OF THE WASTE THAT'S IN THERE IS TYPICALLY ORGANIC TYPE WASTE THAT'S IN THERE AND SO IF YOU DO KIND OF WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID AGAIN I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT ALL OF WHAT SHE SAID BUT IT'S EXACTLY HOW WE DO IT NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT THOUGH WE'RE AT THIS STAGE OF OF THIS OF THIS THIS PROCESS AND WE NEED TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WORRIES INCLUSIVE FOR EVERYONE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN ALL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO US HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WE EVOLVE THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE WE KNOW FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT WE REALLY NEED TO NEED TO WORK IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE OF NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MARIUS. JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS LITZMAN SAID ON THERE SO TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS QUICK APPRECIATE THE CONCERN ABOUT THE INCREASE OF COSTS FOR PEOPLE AND AND WE DO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. I WOULD DIRECT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE RATE WHICH IS DECREASING BY 4% FOR PEOPLE WITHIN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE MORE CHOICES THAN THEY USED TO HAVE IN TERMS OF THEIR SERVICE. SO THOSE LARGE FAMILIES IF THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT AND GET DOWN TO THAT MEDIUM I JUST POINT OUT THAT TODAY'S PRICE FOR A LARGE IS 1908. A MEDIUM NEXT YEAR WILL COST 1850. SHE WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE RATE. YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SMALL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO EVERY OTHER WEEK. YOU JUST HAVE TO DECREASE A LITTLE BIT AND YOU CAN SAVE MONEY ON THIS THING. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT A REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE CITY. THIS GOES TO PAY A PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT PICK UP OUR TRASH. THE CITY DOESN'T MAKE MONEY ON THIS. THE CITY PAYS A PRIVATE COMPANY TO DO IT JUST LIKE WE PAY PRIVATE CONTRACTORS TO REBUILD OUR ROADS. WE ARE NOT IN THIS BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WE'RE NOT RAISING RATES SO WE CAN GO SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS. WE ARE RAISING RATES TO PAY FOR TRASH AND FOR THE TIPPING FEES AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THE TRUCKS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND YEAH THEY HAVE GONE UP OVER THE YEARS BUT WE PUT TOGETHER A PLATFORM THAT GIVES EVERY FAMILY, EVERY RESIDENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY. I THINK COUNCILOR SANDRA SAID THAT WITH REGARDS TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE JUST A TINY AMOUNT OF WASTE AND THIS EVERY OTHER WEEK IS A HUGE SAVINGS SOMETHING THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME THAT THAT WE LOOK AT. AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY WITH I HAVE OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ALIGNED WITH OUR CONTRACT WITH THE HAULERS AND THERE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS OF THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS FORMAT IT GIVES YOU MORE CONTROL. IT GIVES YOU OPTIONS, IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY. IF YOU CAN DO THAT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR AND THAT IS WHAT IT'S TRYING TO ENCOURAGE. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO AND I APPRECIATE STAFF'S HARD WORK ON IT AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS. WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING OUT FOR THE COST OF THINGS FOR PEOPLE. THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IN TOTALITY IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES. I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT MYSELF AND I'M GOING TO REITERATE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, NOT AS A MAYOR. OKAY. I AM I WILL SAY THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS FOR THE FACT THAT A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE CONTACTED ME IN REGARDS TO HAVING FAMILIES. I GOT THREE BIG DOGS AND I GENERATE A LOT OF GARBAGE. WE USE A 95 GALLON CONTAINER AND WE FILLS UP EVERY WEEK BUT WE WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT SO A LOT OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE WRITTEN TO ME AND WHENEVER THEY SEE ME THEY HAVE APPROACHED ME IS THEY'RE CONCERN ABOUT IT BECAUSE LIKE COUNCILMEMBER MENTIONED, IT'S A BURDEN ON FAMILIES ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY OVERFILL THEIR CONTAINER ONCE A WEEK. THE LARGE ONES. SO ON THAT NOTE, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN ONE MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I'M VERY HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION AT 4.4. RIGHT? YEAH. I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TEN AND APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE TO AMEND SOLID WASTE AND REFUSE COLLECTION FEES AS INDICATED IN CHAPTER 11. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I VOTED NO. NO MOTION PASSES FOR TWO SO REPUBLICATION THEN MR. MAYOR PRO TEM SORRY FOR I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING PUBLIC. THANK YOU, SIR. MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE TO INCREASE WASTEWATER SERVICE RATES INDICATED IN CHAPTER 11 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TEN AND APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE TO AMEND SOLID WASTE AND REFUSE COLLECTION FEES AS INDICATED IN CHAPTER 11. OKAY. THOSE IN FAVOR BY RIGHT MOTION PASSES 609 FROM FOUR AND OUR NEXT ITEM IS 4.5. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH STORM WATER CHARGES. >> THOSE CONTROL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, IT'S HERE TO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE. I AM 4.5 THE HAVE YET TO MAKE THAT MOTION THERE HERE I'LL MOVE MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A BASIC SYSTEM RATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CALCULATING STORMWATER DRAINAGE CHARGES PURSUANT TO SECTION 16.15 OF THE CITY CODE SAYING POOL WHICH MAKES THIS ITEM 4.6 THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO ESTABLISH A 2026 YEAR TO UTILITY FUND BUDGET. COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THERE? I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A 2026 WATER WASTEWATER STORMWATER AND SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE BUDGET FUNDS FOR THOSE IN FAVOR I BOTH MOTION VERSUS SIX ZERO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM 4.7. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY'S ANNUAL MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCES. THERE ARE MANY SEPARATE ORDINANCES HOWEVER WE WILL HOLD A SINGLE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ALL OF THEM DUE TO THE NATURE OF MANY OF THEM. AS A REMINDER, THESE ITEMS ARE CHARACTERIZED AS MISCELLANEOUS WHICH MEANS THEY EITHER CLEAN UP OR MINOR POLICY MATTERS. THE CLEANUP ITEMS ARE ORDINANCE EIGHT TWO ALL AND Q TO Z. THE MINOR POLICY CHANGES ARE ORDINANCES EIGHT AND FIVE. WE WILL HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO CAST A DIFFERENT VOTE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCES, WE WILL REMOVE THE PARTICULAR ORDINANCE FROM THE LARGER MOTION AND ACTED ON IT THROUGH AN INDIVIDUAL MOTION. ANY QUESTIONS WILL PLANNER HISTORIC IS PRESENT IN THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING ACTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THANKS FOR THE ITEM INTRODUCTION. I CAN GO MUCH FASTER THROUGH THIS SLIDE NOW SO BASICALLY AS DESCRIBED THIS IS KIND OF A HODGEPODGE OF ORDINANCES THAT DON'T WARRANT THEIR OWN PROJECT AND AS ACTING MAYOR OF RIVERSIDE THERE ARE TWO CATEGORIES WHICH ARE CLEANUP ITEMS WHICH WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO GO THROUGH ONE BY ONE AND THEN THERE ARE MORE POLICY CHANGE ITEMS. >> SO AS FAR AS A TIMELINE GOES, WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 23RD UP PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THESE ORDINANCES SIX ZERO. SO THIS IS THE VERY LONG LIST OF CLEANUP ITEMS. NO ORDINANCE WAS REMOVED FROM THE PROJECT AS WE FELT IT NEEDED FURTHER WORK. WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH ONE EXAMPLE OF A CLEANUP ITEM BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THESE INDIVIDUALLY IF NEEDED. >> SO ORDINANCE A IS A CLEANUP ITEM AND IS SIMPLY ADDING THE WORD OR IT WAS A GRAMMATICAL MISTAKE AND THAT'S WHY MUCH OF THE CLEANUP ITEMS ARE WE WILL GO THROUGH THE POLICY ITEMS ONE BY ONE. YOU SAW ALL THESE OTHER STUDIES SESSION BUT WE DID KIND OF REORGANIZE AND REORDER SOME OF THESE. SO WE'LL START WITH ORDINANCE A WHICH IS LIGHTING STANDARDS UPDATE SO THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING SECTION OF THE CODE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO SPECIFY WHEN LIGHTING PLANS ARE REQUIRED. NOT EVERY PROJECT THAT INVOLVES THE INSTALLATION OF LIGHTING SUCH AS WITHIN A GROUND SIGN FOR EXAMPLE NECESSITATES A COMPREHENSIVE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN. ADDITIONALLY, STAFF IS PROPOSING ADDING A STATEMENT ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF LIGHTING TO ENSURE IT'S KEPT IN GOOD REPAIR ORDINANCE B B CAME FROM A THE OFFICE CONVERSION STUDY WHICH CAME BEFORE COUNCIL EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND SO IT IS PROPOSING TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES WHEN COMBINED WITH MINIMUM LEVELS OF NONRESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THEN ORDINANCE C C APPLICATION PROCESSES UPDATES. SO THERE'S A EXISTING PROCESS FOR APPEALS TO CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP BECAUSE THE CODE CURRENTLY SAYS THAT APPEALS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION WOULD THEN GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT THAT'S AN ACCURATE THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY BE DECIDED ON BY THE COUNCIL. ADDITIONALLY WITH APPEALS OF DECISION OF CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS THERE IS CURRENTLY N FEE LISTED. THE FEE SHOULD BE $220 WHICH MIRRORS OTHER APPEAL COSTS FEE COSTS AND THEN LASTLY AS PART OF THE STREAMLINE IN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMPLETED LAST YEAR, WE ESTABLISH THE PROCESS FOR APPEALING A VARIANCE DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT FORGOT TO ADD IT TO THE CODE. SO THE APPEAL PROCESS SHOULD INCLUDE A PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL ORDINANCE D D RELATES TO GARAGE HEIGHT LIMITS AND ACCESSORY HEIGHT LIMITS SO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE RULES DO NOT ALLOW A GARAGE OR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE TALLER THAN THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING WHICH CAN BE A CHALLENGE AND SOME CASES STAFF PROPOSES A MAXIMUM OF 15FT IN HEIGHT FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND GARAGES THAT DO EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING ORDINANCE IS PROPOSING REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT NONRESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE SAME SITE HAVE TO MATCH ARCHITECTURALLY SO STYLE COLOR SCHEME AND BUILDING MATERIALS STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN AND LIMITS DESIGN FLEXIBILITY AND CREATIVITY AND THEN LASTLY FOR THE POLICY CHANGE ITEMS RELATED TO SIDEWALK WIDTHS ON MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS CURRENTLY CODE REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS WHICH ARE SHOWN ON THE MAP AND NOT LIGHT BLUE. THE CITY ENGINEER HAS AGREED THAT THIS COULD BE REDUCED TO SIX FEET WHEN NOT ABUTTING THE CURB. THIS AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO RIGHT SIZE THE SIDEWALKS ALONG LOWER VOLUME ROADWAYS AND DECREASE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WHILE STILL PROVIDING ADEQUATE FACILITIES AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FEEDBACK AT THE STUDY SESSIONS STAFF ADDED LANGUAGE TO PROVIDE THE CITY ENGINEER DISCRETION AS TO WHEN THE SIDEWALKS CAN BE REDUCED TO SIX FEET. SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SCREEN AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL OKAY SO THERE IS JUST A TIME WHEN YOU WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONES WE WANT TO HOLD. WE HAVE THEM WHICH OBVIOUSLY YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH. I HAVE ONE OF THOSE SELF-ISOLATING ROOMS WHICH ONE OF WHICH ARE FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS ONE I'M SURE AT THIS TIME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ORDINANCES DETAILING ITEM 4.7 OPENING? I GUESS WE DO WE HAVE ANY VIDEO LINE OR THE PHONE MAYOR PRO TEM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE TRYING TO WHICH WAS OCCUPIED. OKAY BECAUSE I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SOME OF THOSE IN FAVOR ALL RIGHT WHICH IN PASSES SIX ZERO COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 54.7 AS A REMINDER SO I WANT YEAH I THINK I'VE ALREADY STATED IN THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER MY MY FEELING ABOUT ORDINANCE E IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW I'M A I'M A SQUARE MY MY MY MY SISTER LIKES HAVING MISMATCHED SOCKS I WASN'T ONE LIKE THAT AND THAT'S MY FAILURE TO THAT AND AND I DO I DO THINK THAT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE OF THIS UNIFORMITY OR NOT THAT WE NOT GO DOWN THIS DIRECTION DIRECTLY THE WAY THAT IT IS TODAY. NOW I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY FOLKS CAN COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION AROUND THAT. BUT I DO THINK SOME UNIFORMITY DOES MAKE SENSE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF OF GOING ABOUT DOING THIS SO I WON'T SUPPORT THAT ONE. SO IF WE COULD HOLD THAT ONE OUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT I THINK THE OTHER ONES I CAN I CAN GET AROUND AND THIS CREATES YOU KNOW A IF IF THAT MAKES SENSE I CAN I CAN READ THIS EXCLUDING E IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO RIGHT. OKAY. ARE WE READY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE A THROUGH O AND ORDINANCES Q THROUGH Z EXCLUDING ORDINANCE E IS THAT HOW I DO? OH, IT'S IN THE NEXT ONE MY BED. I'LL JUST DO THIS ONE THEN ORDINANCE IS A THROUGH THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE E WOULD BE AFTER THE FOR THE OF THE 3.5 HOURS OF SLEEP GUYS SORRY AUDIENCE IS EIGHT THROUGH OH AND ON Q3Z AS INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 610 1415 1718 2122 IN APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE SECOND I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY A RIGHT NOW THE NEXT ONE MOST OF THEM WHICH ARE IN THE MINOR POLICY ITEMS ORDINANCE EIGHT TWO IF YOU'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVED TO AN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE NUMBER AND ORDINANCES A THROUGH FIVE EXCLUDING E AS INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET THEREBY AMENDING 21 CHAPTER 21 IN APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR I BOTH WHEN MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO OKAY I THINK OR SKIP DO YOU WANT ME TO DO SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON THIS FIRST OKAY SO THEN THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE E AS INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 21 IN APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE 202ND THOSE IN FAVOR I WAS IN PRESENT SIX HERE. OH NO NO NO NO NO. I'M SORRY NO MOTION PASSES FIVE ONE ALL RIGHT HERE AND THEN SUMMARY PUBLICATION IF YOU WILL IF YOU'RE READY. OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SOME SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF ALL OF THE 2025 MISCELLANEOUS ISSUE ORDINANCES. SECOND, THOSE IN FAVOR I OPPOSE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO OUR NEXT TIME IS ITEM 4.8 IT COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS PRESENTING THIS ITEM RYAN AND DURING IT'S NOT EASY CHEMISTRY WOULD YOU ALL RIGHT GOOD EVENING MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS CITY MANAGER DAVID IRIZARRY AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS WITH ME. I'VE GOT BRIAN HANSON, OUR DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR DOWN IN ENGINEERING. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 2026 121 PMP STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PMP PROJECT AS A WHOLE AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN FOR KIND OF RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE ASSESSMENT PIECE OF IT. SO SO THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS THE CITY'S TOOL THAT WE USE FOR MANAGING AND ULTIMATELY IMPROVING ABOUT THE 340 MILES OF STREETS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S ESSENTIALLY OUR YOU KNOW, OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A FUNCTIONAL AND RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO THE THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS THE PROGRAM ITSELF. AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS IN ORDER TO RANK AND SCORE AND PUT PROJECTS TOGETHER WE USE A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OR THE PCI. WE LOVE OUR ACRONYMS ON AN ENGINEERING PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX IS A BASICALLY WE SCORE THE ROADS SCORE OF 100 TO 0 AND WITH 100 BEING A BRAND NEW ROAD AND A ZERO BEING A ROAD THAT HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS USABLE LIFE SO WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS IN OUR STREET MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE TRAINED IN ASSESSING AND SCORING AND SO WHAT THEY DO IS EVERY YEAR ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE CITY GETS RE SCORED AND IT PROVIDES AN UPDATED PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER PROJECTS BASED OFF THE DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE SO THE RECONSTRUCT THE OVERLAY AND THEN THE SEAL CODE. SO IT ALSO HELPS US PUT TOGETHER OUR FIVE YEAR CIP PROGRAM SO WE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. SO WHAT THE PROGRAM ALSO DOES IS WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO USE SOME OF THOSE TECHNIQUES AND USING THEM AT THE RIGHT TIME. SO FINDING OUT WHEN A STREET NEEDS TO BE HAVE SEAL COATS OR MILLING OVERLAYS OR YOU KNOW ULTIMATELY RECONSTRUCTED. SO WHAT THAT DOES FOR ON THE CITY SIDE OF IT IS THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SIDE OF IT IS IT HELPS MANAGE THE ASSESSMENTS. SO BEING ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE OTHER TECHNIQUES THAT AREN'T FUNDED THROUGH ASSESSMENTS HELPS BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ITSELF. SO AND THEN WHY DO WE HAVE PMP SO PRIOR TO PMP AND THIS WILL MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE ON THE NEXT SLIDE BUT METHODS WERE LEADING TO SYSTEM FAILURE SO WHAT YOU SEE THE TWO GRAPHICS THAT YOU HAVE WOULD BE THE GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF A ROAD THAT WAS PUT IN PRIOR TO THE PMP PROGRAM BEING IMPLEMENTED OVER 30 YEARS AGO SO YOU'D HAVE A BRAND NEW ROAD WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED, NO ROUTINE MAINTENANCE IS COMPLETED AND THEN YOU KNOW AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT ROAD IS JUST REACHES THE END OF ITS USABLE LIFE. THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE IS USING SOME OF THE PMP TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE ABLE TO GREATLY EXTEND THAT LIFECYCLE OF THE ROAD. SO WE LIKEN IT TO PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON A VEHICLE. IT'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO THAT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE THAN IT IS TO REPLACE YOUR VEHICLE EVERY SO OFTEN SO THE CURRENT P EXCUSE ME CURRENT PMP PROGRAM WE DO ABOUT 2.5 TO 3.5 MILES EVERY YEAR OF THE RECONSTRUCT PROGRAM WE HAVE THE 2026 PROGRAM EXCUSE ME THE 2026 PROJECT. WE HAVE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES SCHEDULED T OVERLAY NINE MILES UNTIL 2026 AND THEN WE BRING IT DOWN TO EIGHT MILES AND THEN THE SEAL CODE WE'RE AT 25 MILES. SO THE THE TOP TWO OR EXCUSE ME ALL THREE OF THOSE PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW ARE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW WE DO HIRE OUT TO CONTRACTORS TO COMPLETE WITH THE SEAL CODE THAT'S COMPLETED THROUGH A SALT METRO JOY POWERS ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT. SO OVERALL GOALS OF THE PROGRAM IS KEEPING THE PCI AT 70 OR ABOVE KEEPING THE PROBLEM STREETS THROUGH. SO THAT'S THE PCI OF 35. SO THOSE STREETS THAT ARE IN THE RECONSTRUCT RANGE WE KEEP THEM LESS THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL MILEAGE AND THEN WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS FOR THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF YEARS PCI IS OUR FUNDING SOURCES RECONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH ASSESSMENTS PORTION OF THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH DEBT ISSUED BY THE CITY. IF WE'RE ON SEGMENTS THAT HAVE STATE AID ROUTES, WELL WE CAN PULL FUNDING FOR THAT AND THEN THE UTILITY WORK IS FUNDED THROUGH THEIR ASSOCIATED ACCOUNTS OVERLAY IS THE FRANCHISE FEE SO THAT IS THE FEE ON THE XCEL AND CENTERPOINT BILL AND THEN SIMILAR TO IF WE'RE ON STATE AID SEGMENTS WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED UTILITY FUNDS FOR THOSE AND THEN SEE YOUR CODING OF THE TRAILS AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE LOCKS CAN ALSO BE FUNDED THROUGH FRANCHISE FEES. SO WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW SO SHOULD THE COUNCIL ORDER THE 2026 1 TO 1 PROJECT CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ENGINEERING STAFF WILL PUT TOGETHER THE ENGINEERING PLANS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE NEW YEAR WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO BID THE PROJECT AND START CONSTRUCTION AND EARLY SPRING OF 2026 AND THEN MYSELF AND BRIAN WOULD BE BACK IN THE FALL OF 26 FOR THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT HEARING TO ADOPT THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE WOULD BE INCLUDING ON THIS PROJECT. SO STANLEY AVENUE BETWEEN IT'S NINE MILE CREEK AND 84TH STREET SO THE CITY DID RECEIVE A SEVERAL SCHOOL GRANT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A SIDEWALK ON THAT STRETCH THROUGH THERE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ACTUALLY NARROW STANLEY AVENUE DOWN AND THEN INSTALL THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT. THAT WORK WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THIS PROJECT THE WORK BUT THE THE FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE WOULD NOT COME FROM ASSESSMENTS ON THAT AND FREMONT AVENUE THE THAT IS THE PROPOSED ROUTE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY SEWER PROJECT SO THE STRETCH BETWEEN 92ND AND 90TH IS A NON CURB SEGMENT. SO HOW WE KIND OF BUNDLE THOSE PROJECTS WE WOULD LOOK AT HAVING THE CONTRACTOR THAT BIDS FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY SEWER PROJECT ONCE ALL THE UTILITY WORK WOULD BE COMPLETE THEN THAT WORK WOULD BE THE ROAD RECONSTRUCTION WOULD HAPPEN IN ITSELF. SO WE WOULD INCLUDE ITEMS IN THAT PROJECT FOR OBVIOUSLY THE CURB AND GUTTER AND THE SURFACING TO BRING FREMONT AVENUE UP TO OUR CURRENT STANDARDS AND THEN WEST BUSH LAKE ROAD. SO WE DO WE ARE INVESTIGATING AND WE'VE INCLUDED SOME DOLLARS IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SO WE DO HAVE A RETAINING WALL ON THE WEST SIDE OF WEST LAKE ROAD THAT SUPPORTS WEST WASH. LAKE ROAD KIND OF IN THE TIERNEY'S WOODS AREA. THAT RETAINING WALL IS FAILING AND WE KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AS PART OF THE PROJECT WE'RE ALSO INVESTIGATING THE RETAINING WALL ON THE EAST SIDE JUST SOUTH OF HIGHWOOD. IT'S A BIG LARGE TIMBER WALL. SO SHOULD THE PROJECT BE ORDERED? WE'LL LOOK AT INVESTIGATING THAT FURTHER AND SEE SEE SOME OPTIONS WITH WE CAN KEEP THAT RETAINING WALL IN PLACE OR IF IT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DARREN. I'M GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FOR THE ASSESSMENT PORTION OF THE PROJECT NOW. SO AS DARREN MENTIONED, A PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THE RECONSTRUCT PROJECT IS AN ASSESSMENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THE CITY'S ASSESSMENT POLICY IS IS TO USE AN ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AND THAT POLICY HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1962 AND THEN THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE IS THE BASIS FOR THE ASSESSMENT AND CALCULATIONS FOR ALL PROPERTIES. SO THE CALCULATION EQUATES ALL LOTS INTO A RECTANGULAR LOT. SO IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY NOT NECESSARILY THE SHAPE OR HOW MUCH OF IT ABUTS THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE USE THAT TOTAL ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE JUST MULTIPLIED BY THE RATE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT IT'S BEING ASSESSED TO DETERMINE THAT ULTIMATE ASSESSMENT. SO AS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MAY BE ASSESSED WITH THE PROJECT IF IT'S ORDERED AND THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE EARLIER THIS FALL. SO LOOKING AT THE ESTIMATE ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THE TWO IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT ARE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THIS PROJECT IF ORDERED ARE THE SURFACING OF THE STREET ITSELF AND ALSO THE INSTALLATION OF CURB AND GUTTER. SO THE SURFACING ASSESSMENT THAT TOTAL ESTIMATED COST WAS ABOUT 3.1 MILLION. THE TOTAL ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE SO THE AFFECT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THOSE PARCELS ARE SUBJECT TO A SURFACING ASSESSMENT CAME OUT TO JUST OVER 16,000. SO YOU DIVIDE THE TOTAL COST BY THE TOTAL ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AND THAT GIVES US A 100% RATE. SO THAT'S THE RATE WE WOULD NEED TO ASSESS PER ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE OF EACH PROPERTY TO PAY FOR IT ENTIRELY THROUGH ASSESSMENTS IN BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE TWO ASSESSMENT RATES WE DON'T ASSESS 100% RATE. WE ASSESS AT A 25% RATE FOR SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY HOMES AND A 50% RATE FOR OTHER FOUR HOMES. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WHERE THOSE ASSESSMENT RATES COME IN ABOUT $47 PER FOOT FOR SERVICING FOR THOSE SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY HOMES. ALL THEIR PROPERTIES THAT 50% RATE ARE 94 FOOT $94 PER ADJUSTED FRONT FOOT AND WE DO THE SAME MATH FOR THE CURB AND GUTTER AGAIN THAT'S ABOUT 1.9 MILLION ESTIMATED. YOU SEE THAT ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE IS LESS FOR THE CURB AND GUTTER AND THAT'S BECAUSE BURLINGTON'S POLICY IS TO AS IS TO ASSESS FOR THE INITIAL INSTALLATION OF CURB AND GUTTER ONLY. SO WE DO HAVE STREET SEGMENTS THAT ARE ON THIS YEAR'S LIST THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED THAT DON'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTERS THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED WITH THE PROJECT. THOSE SEGMENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE CURB AND GUTTER IN PLACE MAY HAVE SEGMENTS REPLACED WITH THE PROJECT BUT THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THAT. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE YOU SEE THERE AGAIN USING THAT SAME MAP WE HAVE THE TWO RATES THAT COME OUT TO THAT $55 PER FOOT FOR THE SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY HOMES AND ALL THE PROPERTY TYPES OF THAT $110 PER FOOT. I WILL NOTE THAT THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS IS ITERATIVE SO THIS IS THE ESTIMATED ASSESSMENTS RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE IF THE PROJECT WERE TO BE ORDERED THIS EVENING IS DARREN MENTIONED IT WOULD GO TO CONSTRUCTION OR TO DESIGN EXCUSE ME THIS WINTER GOD FORBID IN THE SPRING ONCE WE GET THE BID PRICES BACK IF THE PROJECTS ARE AWARDED WE'LL INPUT THOSE WILL REPORT OUR NUMBERS AGAIN AND THEN BASED ON THAT WE'LL HAVE INDEPENDENT PROPERTY EVALUATOR DO A SPECIAL A SPECIAL BENEFIT ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE THE BENEFIT THE PROPERTIES WILL RECEIVE FROM THE ASSESSMENT. STATE STATUTE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO ASSESS MORE THAN THE BENEFIT A PROPERTY RECEIVES FROM THAT IMPROVEMENT. SO WE'LL DO THAT MATH AND THEN BEFORE THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLL WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU IN NEXT FALL WE WOULD ENSURE THAT THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THOSE PROPERTIES ARE AT OR BELOW THAT MAXIMUM SPECIAL BENEFIT THEY WOULD RECEIVE THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE TO SHOW US KIND OF THE DIFFERENT RATES THAT OTHER CITIES OR CITIES USE WITH THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA . AS YOU CAN SEE IT KIND OF VARIOUS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE BLOOMINGTON FALLS IN AGAIN THAT 25 AND 50% RATE YOU CAN SEE SOME KIND OF HAVE THE SAME FOR BOTH. SOME HAVE HIGHER RATES AND HAVE LOWER RATES BUT JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE WE FALL COMPARED TO OUR PEER CITIES HERE SLIDE THERE WE GO ASSESSMENT PAYMENT OPTIONS SO WHAT'S THIS GOING TO COST ME? HOW DO I PAY FOR THIS IF THE PROJECT IS ORDERED THIS EVENING LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WE WILL BE IN THOSE FINAL ASSESSMENTS NEXT NEXT AND THE SUMMER EARLY FALL SETTING THOSE OUT. SO THE ASSESSMENT HEARING IS USUALLY THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. AT THAT POINT IF THE ASSESSMENTS ARE LEVIED, PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER 27TH OF 2026 TO PAY OFF THE BALANCE OF $100 UP TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY ANYTHING BUT THEY CAN DO SO AND AVOID PAYING ANY INTEREST AFTER NOVEMBER 27TH ANY UNPAID BALANCES WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAXES AND THE BALANCE WOULD BE SPREAD OUT EVENLY OVER TEN YEARS THAT PRINCIPAL WOULD BE SPLIT EVENLY OVER TEN YEARS WITH THE 5.5% INTEREST APPLIED AND LEAD TO DECLINING PRINCIPAL SO IF A PROPERTY OWNER WERE TO BE ASSESSED FOR THE PROJECT AND CHOSE NOT TO PAY ANY PORTION OF IT IN THAT PREPAYMENT WINDOW THE FIRST TIME THEY WOULD SEE A PAYMENT OR A BILL FOR THE PROJECT WOULD BE WITH THEIR MAY 2027 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT IF THEY WERE TO LET THAT PLAY OUT THROUGHOUT THE TEN YEARS OF THE ASSESSMENT THE LAST PAYMENT WOULD BE DUE WITH THEIR OCTOBER 2036 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT. ONCE THE PROPERTY OWNS THE ASSESSMENT IS ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL, AN APPLE OR A PROPERTY OWNER COULD PAY OFF THAT AMOUNT AT ANY TIME DURING THOSE TEN YEARS TO AVOID PAYING ADDITIONAL INTEREST. SO IF AFTER THREE YEARS THEY HAD THEY WANTED TO PAY OFF THAT REMAINING BALANCE THEY COULD DO SO AND AVOID PAYING THAT ADDITIONAL INTEREST. WE DO HAVE A HARDSHIP DEFERRAL PROGRAM FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY . THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS YOU MUST MEET IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT OUR STARTING DIVISION CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. I WILL NOTE THAT IF A ASSESSMENT IS INTO THE DEFERRAL STATUS IT STILL DOES ACCRUE INTEREST. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND ALSO THAT ELIGIBILITY MUST BE ACQUIRED ANNUALLY. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT ANNUALLY SO IF YOU DON'T QUALIFY AFTER THAT YEAR THE ASSESSMENT BECOMES DUE IN FULL. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU QUALIFY YOU CONTINUE TO QUALIFY THAT DEFERRAL DOES QUICK PROPERTY OWNER CONTACTS WE HAVE POSTED INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROJECT PROPOSED PROJECT ON THE CITY WEBSITE. WE HAD DIRECT MAILINGS TO ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE SENT OUT WITH A NOTICE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HELD INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS ON NOVEMBER THIRD OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THAT AFTERNOON AND EVENING MEETING OBVIOUSLY THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING IN THE SUN CURRENT AS WELL AND THEN DURING I HAVE BOTH HAD CONVERSATIONS, TRADED EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS WITH RESIDENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING TONIGHT AS WELL AND BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS I DID WANT TO JUST ADDRESS ONE AREA THAT I KNOW THAT THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THIS EVENING THAT MAY BE SPEAKING ON THIS IS THE ZYLON CIRCLE AREA. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AS WELL AS EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS THAT HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ZYLON CIRCLE AREA. SO I'LL LET DARREN ADDRESS KIND OF THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THAT HERE IN A SECOND AND THEN I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON THE ASSESSMENT PORTION REAL QUICK. >> SO YEAH, SO ZYLON CIRCLE WAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING A STREET SEGMENT THAT IS IN THE RECONSTRUCTED RANGE BOTH DURING YOU KNOW USING THE PCI AS WELL AS WHEN THE CITY ENGINEERING AND MAINTENANCE STAFF DO OUR DRIVE ROUNDS. SO THAT WAS WHY IT WAS INCLUDED AS A POTENTIAL STREET ON THE ON THIS YEAR'S PROJECT . AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CERTAIN CERTAIN STRETCHES OF A STREET SEGMENT YOU KNOW AS THEY AS THEY AGE AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL WEAR ON THERE THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, UNEVEN WEAR BETWEEN ONE END OF THE CUL DE SAC VERSUS THE OTHER. SO OBVIOUSLY KNOWING THAT THE AREAS YOU KNOW, ONE SEGMENT OF ZYLON CIRCLE MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BETTER THAN YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE ENTRANCE OF IT. SO WE JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN ON THE ASSESSMENT PORTION I DO WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS FOR THE ASSESSMENT POLICY AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE EIGHT PARCELS THAT ARE ABUTTING ZYLON CIRCLE AS WELL AS WEST BUSH LAKE ROAD. BOTH SEGMENTS ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR PART OF THE PROJECT THIS YEAR. SO IF ZYLON CIRCLE WAS NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2026 ONE ON ONE BUT IT WAS PUSHED LAKE ROAD REMAINED IN THE PROJECT THOSE PARCELS WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE WEST BUSH LAKE PORTIONS OF THE OF THE PROJECT SO AGAIN BACK TO THAT ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE CALCULATION THEY HAVE TWO FRONTAGES FROM THE FRONT TO PUBLIC ROADWAYS BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OR THE AREA OF THOSE LOTS THEY ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE ONE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE. SO IF THE PROJECT WERE TO BE ORDERED WITH BOTH ZYLON CIRCLE AND WEST BUSH LAKE ROAD THEY'D HAVE THE ONE ASSESSMENT FOR THE PROJECT IF ONE ZYLON CIRCLE WAS REMOVED AND IT WAS RECONSTRUCTED AT LET'S SAY TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THEY WOULD STILL NOT FACE AN ASSESSMENT THOSE PARCELS ON THE WEST SIDE WOULD NOT BE ASSESSED ADDITIONAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AND WE ASSESSED BEFORE THAT ONE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AT THE END OF THE USEFUL LIFE AND SINCE THEY WERE JUST BEEN ASSESSED FOR WEST SPORTS LAKE ROAD THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR FOUR ZYLON CIRCLE IN 10 TO 15 YEARS. THE PARCELS IN BLUE IF ZYLON CIRCLE WOULD BE REMOVED WOULD NOT FACE AN ASSESSMENT WITH THE 2026 121 HOWEVER WHEN THE ZYLON CIRCLE IF THAT WAS ADDED LATER AT A LATER DATE WITH A LATER PROJECT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT THAT TIME. AND JUST SPEAKING ON WHAT BRIAN MENTIONED ABOUT IF THIS WAS PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN THE FUTURE SO BASED ON THE CONDITION OF ZYLON CIRCLE AND WEST LAKE ROAD THIS IS A COMMENT THAT WAS I KNOW WAS SENT TO A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AS FAR AS HIT THE CUL DE SAC AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHILE THE IF IF THREE SEGMENTS ARE WITHIN THE SAME VICINITY WITHIN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SAME PUMP TECHNIQUE CAN BE APPLIED AND THE STREETS ARE READY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WE DO TRY TO INCLUDE THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER FOR FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS. OBVIOUSLY A RECONSTRUCT PROJECT IS FAIRLY INTRUSIVE. SO YOU KNOW OUR THOUGHT IS IS IF WE CAN KIND OF DO IT AT ONCE THAT IS BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO PROVIDES SOME BETTER PRICING FOR THE CONTRACTORS THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN KEEP THESE PROJECTS BUNDLED TOGETHER AND THEN IT ALSO SETS US UP IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR FUTURE PMP PROGRAM. SO IF YOU RECONSTRUCT ONE AREA, YOU KNOW IT'S CAN BE GENERALLY ASSUME THAT WHEN THAT AREA IS UP FOR A MILL AND OVERLAY YOU CAN AGAIN DO THAT ALL TOGETHER. SO WITH THAT JUST JUST KIND OF A RECAP OF THE PMP PROGRAM IN GENERAL AS DARREN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE RIGHT ACTION, THE RIGHT TIME. THE REASON WE DO IT IT HELPS PROLONG THE PAVEMENT LIFE. IT REDUCES THE OVERALL COST OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT. IT HELPS MAINTAIN THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WITH THAT WE DO HAVE SUGGESTED MOTION FOR YOU AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS FOR KNOW DARREN WAS A MEMBER SO THINKING BACK TO OUR FIRST ON CIRCLE SPECIFICALLY IS THERE A CHEAPER OPTION IF THEY DO SILENT CIRCLE OR BUSH LAKE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE LIKE IF THEY IS AND SECOND WASN'T DONE THIS YEAR AND THEY DID WEST LAKE WOULD IT BE CHEAPER TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE TWO JUST DIFFERENT PROJECTS? >> YEAH SO THANK YOU ACTING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER FROM AN ASSESSMENT PERSPECTIVE THE THE THE FEE WOULD BE THE SAME BECAUSE AGAIN THE ASSESSMENT IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE MULTIPLIED BY THE RATE OF THE IMPROVEMENT. SO SINCE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF BOTH ZYLON CIRCLE AND WEST LAKE ROAD ARE BEING RECONSTRUCTED OR JUST WEST OF LAKE ROAD THAT ESTIMATE ASSESSMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM PRIOR TO WOULD STILL BE WOULD STILL BE CORRECT. SO IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THEIR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE REMEMBER. LOWMAN THANK YOU. SO THEN MAYBE I'LL PICK UP WHERE HE LEFT OFF OR DO THIS IN THE REVERSE ORDER WHICH I WAS GOING TO ASK SO SO IF AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A PCI RATING OF 3031 HERE THEY'RE USING AS THE EXAMPLE HERE IF I WERE TO HAVE A STREET WEIGHT NOW FOR A YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT ,HAVE WE EVER SEEN WHERE THAT HAS BEEN CHEAPER TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF WE'VE SEEN EXAMPLES LIKE THAT SO IF I DON'T PAY FOR SOMETHING TODAY SOMEHOW MY ASSESSMENT WOULD BE SOMEHOW CHEAPER IN THE YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS. >> I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES I GUESS HISTORICALLY OVER TIME HAVE OUR ASSESSMENT RATES FOR SURFACING GONE UP? YEAH I MEAN THAT I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR COUNCILOR YEAH THE ASSESSMENT IN MY TIME IN THIS ROLE I HAVE NOT SEEN I MEAN THERE'S BEEN SOME FLUCTUATION WHERE THE RATES FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS HAVE STAYED PRETTY SIMILAR BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN MAJOR INCREASES BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BIG DIPS. I MEAN THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION WITH THE COST OF EVERYTHING YOU KNOW HAS CONTINUED TO TO RISE AND THOSE SUBSEQUENT THE RATES HAVE REFLECTED THAT. SO WE TRY TO KEEP THEM IN LINE SO THEY DON'T RAISE TOO MUCH BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN A MAJOR DECREASE OVER THE 8 OR 9 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THAT. SO THE RISK I TAKE IF I DON'T DO IT IN THIS THING IS THAT IT MAY BE MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE FUTURE. IT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY POTENTIALLY. SO THEN JUST TWO OTHER REAL QUICK QUESTIONS HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDES OUR I SAW THAT HE DANA FINALLY MOVED AWAY FROM THEIR ASSESSMENT OF GOING IN. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES FROM GOING FROM 100% YOU KNOW, DOWN TO THERE I THINK WAS 53% RATIO THAT THEY HAVE AND I NOTICE THAT WOODBURY HAS FOR THEIR BUSINESS SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS 75% UP TO 100% AND WE LOOKED AT OR CONSIDERED THAT AT ALL IN TERMS OF IF YOU'R A NONRESIDENTIAL AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT TODAY I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING THAT THEY WERE DOING THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IN TERMS OF TERMS OF DOING THAT. AND THEN FINALLY MY LAST I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT KIND OF QUESTION THAT I WANT TO GET ANSWERED LATER. MY OTHER ONE IS YOUR SLIDE 5030. YEAH. FOR OUR ASSESSMENT IT IS 25% BUT WHO PAYS THAT OTHER 75%, RIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ACTING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST YOUR CALL YOUR COMMENT REGARDING THE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT RATES FOR DIFFERENT CITIES I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY TO WOODBURY BUT AGAIN WE HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT RATES FOR ALL OTHER PROPERTIES WE USE THAT 25 AND 50% RATE SO SINGLE TWO AND SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY HOMES 25% RATE 50% RATE FOR ALL OTHERS. SO THAT COULD BE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL YOU KNOW FOR OPEN SPACE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT'S ASSESSED AT 50% RATE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AS A CITY FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. SO WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT CHANGING THOSE THREE DATA EXAMPLE YES, I KEEP ADJUSTING IT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE THEY'VE GOING THEY'RE GOING AWAY FROM SPECIAL SYSTEMS THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING A FEE THAT EVERYONE PAYS ANNUALLY REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOUR STREETS BEING RECONSTRUCTED. SO THEY'RE COLLECTING THAT FOR YOU STILL FROM ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN WHEN THE STREETS RECONSTRUCTED YOU'VE ALREADY PREPARED SO TO SPEAK. SO THEY'RE PHASING OUT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND REPLACING THAT WITH A WHAT WITH A FEE ANNUAL FEE FOR ALL THEIR PROPERTY TO RESIDENTS. SO THEY'RE STILL COLLECTING THOSE DOLLARS, JUST DOING IT A DIFFERENT WAY, A DIFFERENT WAY . AND THEN YOUR LAST QUESTION I APOLOGIZE. I JUST YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM. SO SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW 25% THAT'S PAID BY THE I THINK YES. YES. THE QUESTION YES. SO OF THE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF ABOUT 25% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF THE RECONSTRUCT PROJECT IS PAID THROUGH ASSESSMENTS COLLECTED THROUGH ASSESSMENTS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE MEETING 75%, AS DARREN MENTIONED IS PAID THROUGH CITYWIDE PROPERTY TAXES. THE UTILITY FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED FOR THE CERTAIN UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO ABOUT 25% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS COLLECTED THROUGH ASSESSMENTS. SO IF I DO SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT IF WE DELAY A PORTION OF A PROJECT TAXPAYERS WOULD PAY. THEORETICALLY THERE'S A RISK OF US PAYING MORE AND THAT 75% IF WE DELAY THAT FOR LATER ON 75 I GUESS IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT THE PROJECT COST OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE AN ANNUAL BASIS SO IF CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASE NEXT YEAR THEN THE 75% 25% OF THAT TOTAL COSTS. YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING THIS YEAR. CORRECT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HAD MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. MAKE IT QUICK. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON SILANE AND WEST WHICH LAKE AT THE SAME TIME THE HOUSES OR THE PROPERTIES ON BLUE WON'T GET CHARGED FOR THE ASSESSMENT? HOW'S THAT SO MR. ACTING MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE IF THERE'S SOME CONFUSION IF ZYLON CIRCLE IS ORDERED AS BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING THE HOUSES IN BLUE WOULD ALSO BE ASSESSED. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE ONLY IF ZYLON CIRCLE WERE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE PROJECT THE HOUSES IN BLUE WOULD NOT RECEIVE AN ASSESSMENT FOR THIS YEAR'S WORK. HOWEVER THE HOUSES IN RED ON THE WEST SIDE WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE WEST LAKE PORTION IF THAT WERE TO REMAIN IN THE PROJECT AND YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS. COUNSEL NO, RIGHT. I'M SO I'M AT THIS TIME ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COME ON COME ON OUT. SURE. SO . HELLO AGAIN. HELLO. I'M RICHARD HELLER AGAIN AND I HAPPEN TO LIVE ON ZYLON CIRCLE. FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THANK THE ENGINEERS WHO'VE BEEN REALLY RESPONSIVE AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON I CALL THEM WITH AN ISSUE AND THEY COME OUT. THE REASON I'M HERE THOUGH AND I LEARNED A LOT HERE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE AND THAT IS THE TYPE OF ASSESSMENT AND I BASICALLY CAME HERE BECAUSE I HAVE AN ASSESSMENT IN THE MAIL THAT CAME IN FOR $4,000 AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE NEEDED THE WHOLE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD SINCE WE'RE JUST A CUL DE SAC. WE HAVE ABOUT 15 HOUSES ON IT AND THAT'S IT. THE ROADS IF I HAD A SEWER ISSUE. THE CITY HAS COME OUT RIGHT AWAY AND FIXED IT SO THIS EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'M STILL A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT THE EIGHT HOUSES WOULD BE ASSESSED IS WEST BUSH LAKE ROAD FOR INSTANCE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT? IS THAT THE REASON THAT THOSE BLUE HOUSES OR SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASSESSED? I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHO I'M TALKING TO. OH YEAH, I RECOGNIZE THE NAMES WE JUST GRADUATED MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM OF MEMBERS JUST JUST WELL PAST YOUR TIME. BUT JUST TO NOTE WE'LL WRITE DOWN THE QUESTIONS AS PEOPLE ASK THEM DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL GET THEY'LL GET ANSWERED BY STAFF AFTER EVERYONE'S DONE. >> OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT WE APPROVE THIS BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. I GUESS THAT'S MY ISSUE. IF EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED THEN OKAY, WE WENT TO THE FIRST MEETING AND THEY SAID COME TO THIS ONE AND GET OUR ISSUES FRONT. OKAY SO I GUESS WHAT I'M IN ASKING FOR IS THAT LESS OF A WORK DONE AND AGAIN I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE BEGINNING OF THE CIRCLE IS MORE THAN THE END OF IT BUT JUST SEEING IF WE CAN RESURFACE IT INSTEAD OF REDOING IT. SO THAT'S ALL I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS. THAT'S ANYBODY ELSE. WE JUST COME IN HAVE TIME. MY NAME IS ANNE HELLER. I ALSO LIVE ON ZYLON CIRCLE AND I'M NOT I'M NOT UP ON THE CIRCLED PART. I'M ON THE BEGINNING PART AND THE ENTRANCE IS FINE. THE WHOLE IF YOU DRIVE ON THE WHOLE STREET IT'S SMOOTH, IT'S NOT POTHOLED OR I DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO TEAR THE WHOLE THING UP AND REDO IT. I THINK EITHER A SEAL CODE OR AN OVERLAY WOULD CERTAINLY APPROVE THE IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE BUT THE ACTUAL STREET CONDITION SEEMS JUST FINE. IT'S SMOOTH, IT DOESN'T HAVE BUCKLES IN IT AND IT SEEMS LIKE AN OVERKILL FOR THAT PROJECT YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK NOW ARE YOU JOHNSON? I'M ALSO ZYLON CIRCLE AND ONE OF THE BLUE HOUSES. WE CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. THE ROAD'S 41 YEARS OLD. I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 45 CARS PROBABLY THAT ARE GARAGED ON IT. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE LESS THAN 60 TRIPS IN AND OUT TODAY . THE ROAD'S GOING TO LAST MANY YEARS RESURFACING OR JUST PAINTING IT IS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM A STANDPOINT OF ESTHETICS AND SAFETY. THERE'S NO SAFETY ISSUES ON THAT ROAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HUH? GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, PRIYANKA, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE WISHING TO SPEAK? I JUST HAVE A QUICK ADD TO I WAS IN SOUTH CAROLINA A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE PROPERTY TAX ON THE FRONTAGE OF THE ROAD OR THE STREETS THAT PEOPLE LIVE ON. SO WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION NOW IS ALL YOU KNOW THE FRONTAGE IS 30FT AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK. SO PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE ON THEIR TAXES BY JUST HAVING VERY SMALL FRONTAGES AND THEN HAVING A LONG HOUSE WHICH I THOUGHT WAS. YEAH, AWESOME CHECK AND NOBODY ONLY FROM RIGHT TO MY LAST AND AGAIN I THINK I'D LIKE TO MOVE OVER TO SILENT CIRCLE IF I CAN IF I COULD BE YOUR NEIGHBOR. I WANT TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE SQUARE. THE RECTANGULAR SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS HOW YOU BUILD FOR IT. OKAY. AND I GET THAT THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN HISTORICAL THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ASSESSMENTS FOR PEOPLE'S HOUSES DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY WE PAY FOR THE TAX FOR OUR FUEL WE PAY OUR PROPERTY TAX BUT YET WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR STREETS. SEWER BREAKS DOWN. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. WHEN YOU WANT TO REDO THE STREET WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. THE MONEY'S SOMETHING BUT IT'S MORE OF THE NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW I CAN HANDLE THE MONEY BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT. WHEN I LOOK AT THE ROAD AND I LOOK AT THE CHART I DON'T THINK MY STREET IS OVER 70 YEARS OLD SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE NOT JUST RESURFACING IT IN ADDITION I KNOW ENGINEERING'S BLACK AND WHITE WE WANT TO HAVE OUR TRENDS OF HOW WE'RE MAKING OUR HOUSES AND EVERYTHING IN OUR STREETS BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE CURBS AND I THINK THAT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PROVED THAT WE DON'T NEED CURBS WHERE THERE'S ROADS. LOOK AT EVERY HIGHWAY WE'RE ALWAYS WE'RE GETTING MAYBE GET CHARGED MORE FOR OUR SEWER DRAIN AND SEWER WITHOUT HAVING THE CURBS. THE WATER FROM THE RAIN GOES INTO OUR GRASS AND WATER'S OUR GRASS. AND IF WE LOOK AT YOUR POINT ON THE GARBAGE THAT IF I HAVE A SMALL GARBAGE CAN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE IT ONLY PAY A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER EVERY OTHER WEEK. WELL I DRIVE MAYBE TEN MILES OR TEN MILES A WEEK AT THE MOST BUT YET I HAVE TO SPEND $10,000 WHICH IS MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT MY PROPERTY TAXES. SO I WOULD SAY WHAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AS A SURE BE GREAT TO COME IN AND DO THESE PLOTS TO REDO THE ROAD BUT WOULDN'T WE BE BETTER OFF TO SAY THAT ROAD DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE PRETTY? WE COULD STILL SEAL CAUGHT IT A COUPLE MORE TIMES BECAUSE I THINK OUR ROAD IS REALLY NICE. I THINK YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB ON TAKING CARE OF THE CITY THAT I DON'T THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO RIP IT ALL OUT AND REDO EVERYTHING. I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF I DON'T SEE ANY ADDED VALUE ADD CURB IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MORE RIGID LIKE CITY LIKE CITY VERSUS A NICE OPEN BEAUTIFUL AREA WHERE WE'VE GOT THE LAKES. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT IS BETWEEN 86 AND 87 SORRY ABOUT THAT ON LOGAN WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS THE SIDEWALK ALONE WHICH IS A CITY ONE IS PITCHED AS YOU WALK DOWN THE SIDEWALK IT'S PITCHED IT'S ABOUT TEN INCHES PER 10FT OR 12IN PER 12FT LIKE THIS. I THINK THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE SPENDING THE MONEY SO I'M GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY. LET'S GET RID OF THE CURB WE SAVE SAVED A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS WHATEVER IT IS, GET RID OF THE CURBS OR THE SIDEWALK. YEAH, THE CURBS AND WE SPEND THE MONEY ON THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE FIXED. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AS YOU SEE THE TREND FROM ME IS LIKE LET'S SPEND LESS. SPEND THE MONEY WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND IT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE EVERY TIME. THANK YOU. OH LOOK, IT'S ONE MORE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY TO THAT. YEAH. NOW WE'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR CAN YOU PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME? OH, MY NAME IS MICHELLE HENKEL'S. I LIVE ON FREMONT AND HAVE LIVED THERE FOR WHAT, 47 YEARS WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER HASN'T BOTHERED ME AT ALL. I DON'T SEE THE POINT OF THE CURB GUTTER AND NOW WITH ALL THE TAXES AND EVERYTHING GOING UP AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ANOTHER $12,000 FOR CURB AND GUTTER. SO I, I DON'T SEE THE POINT. >> I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL THE PUBLIC HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY BECAUSE I COULD I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED SO I KNOW SOME FAVOR I BOTH I WANT MOTION PASSES SIX HERE BECAUSE OF ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 4.8 COUNCILMEMBER LEMON THANK YOU. WE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF RESPOND TO IF WE COULD JUST TRY TO GO BACK THROUGH HERE TO GRAB A FEW OF THESE OUT OF HERE WE COULD. CITY MANAGER ARE YOU PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? I'LL HAVE STAFF JOIN US HERE FOR THIS. OKAY I'LL JUST GO AND START WITH THESE ONES AND THEN WHATEVER ONES I MISS HERE. SO IF WE START WITH THE SEAL COATING THERE WAS THE ISSUE RAISED THAT THIS ROAD IS ONLY 41 YEARS OLD. I THINK THEY WERE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE THE CIRCLE PORTION OF IT AND SO WHY NOT COULD WE SEE THAT FOR A FEW MORE YEARS? ACTING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO BASED ON THE HISTORY I MEAN ZYLON CIRCLE HAS HAD SEAL COATS PROVIDED IN THE PAST AS PART OF MAINTENANCE. BUT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE AS YOU KNOW, THE THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY AND HIT THE SEAL CODES EITHER RIGHT AFTER ABOUT 5 TO 7 YEARS, RIGHT AFTER A RECONSTRUCT OR ABOUT 5 OR 7 YEARS RIGHT AFTER AN OVERLAY. SO AS I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE RESIDENT IS THIS TO MAKE THE FOR MORE OF A TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S A NEW ROAD VERSUS ACTUALLY PROVIDING MAINTENANCE TO THE ROAD ITSELF IT'S BASED I GUESS BASED ON THE BASED ON THE WHERE THE ROAD IS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF SURFACE DISTRESSES. THERE'S SOME CRACKING GOING ON AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A PCI WHERE YOU'RE IN THAT RECONSTRUCT RANGE, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE ISSUES ARE YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE THE THE SUBSURFACE GRAVEL ITSELF. SO SPEAKING ON THE SEAL CODE AND THEN AS WELL AS THE MILAN OVERLAY YOU KNOW IF WE WERE TO DO A MILAN OVERLAY ON THAT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE VERY QUICKLY AFTER THE FACT IS A LOT OF THAT REFLECTIVE CRACKING, YOU KNOW, COMING THROUGH THE SURFACE. SO YOU KNOW, I WILL WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL BY PROVIDING A SEAL CALLED BASED ON THE CONDITION I DON'T THINK WE WOULD ADVISE THAT FOR YOU KNOW KEEPING IT WITHIN THE WHAT THE BASIS OF THE PROGRAM IS. SO I GET THAT BUT IF THE SO I HEARD EARLIER THAT THAT THE AGE OF THE STREET IS THAT TRUE 41 YEARS OLD YEAH SO THE BIG CHART UP THERE THAT THESE ROADS SHOULD LAST 7070 YEARS AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS COMING IN TO IS THAT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HAS A CURVING GUTTERS THAT HAVE RECURRING GUTTER ACTING THE AREA COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IT DOES HAVE EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER ON ZYLON CIRCLE SO SO WHY NOT MAKING IT ALL THE WAY TO THE 70 YEARS ON THAT? >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS RIGHT AND SO I GUESS THE YOU KNOW THE THE THE SOIL PROFILE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON I MEAN IT VARIES GREATLY FROM THE EAST SIDE. YOU GOT THE VERY NICE SUGAR SAND TO THE WEST SIDE THAT WAS YOU KNOW, BASICALLY CONSTRUCTED ON A SWAMP. SO YOU SEE THE YOU KNOW, THE VARIATION IN THE AGE OF THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, CAN REALLY VARY DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CITY ITSELF. SO I KNOW WHEN WE WHEN WE DO GIVE THE YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE THE THE X AXIS AND YOU KNOW THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE ON THERE AND WE YOU KNOW, WE WE DO CAVEAT IT AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT EVERY STREET IS THE EXACT SAME AND WILL SURVIVE YOU KNOW THROUGH ALL TIME IN THE EXACT SAME WAY. YEAH I THINK AND I'VE HEARD THAT OVER OVER MANY YEARS THAT WE JUST NOT SIGN A GUARANTEE THAT'S JUST WHAT THE WHAT YOU RECOMMEND THAT THAT THAT THAT HAPPEN THERE THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HEARD WAS AROUND WHAT'S THE POINT OF A CURB AND GUTTER FOR THOSE I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT DON'T HAVE PROVEN GUTTER AT ALL AND THERE WAS ALSO AN ALLUSION TO THE FACT THAT A HIGHWAY DOESN'T HAVE A CURB AND A GUTTER. HOW IS A HIGHWAY OR A RESIDENTIAL STREETS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT PROVIDES AND WHAT DOES THAT YOU KNOW, HELP US TO UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF ROAD ACTING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER AND AGAIN SO YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS NON CURBING GUTTER SO THAT YOU KNOW KIND OF GETTING INTO THE CIVIL ENGINEER SPEAK OF WHAT IT IS SO HE'S TALKING ABOUT KIND OF A RURAL SECTION SO NO CURB AND GUTTER WHERE YOU KNOW DRAINAGE JUST ESSENTIALLY WASHES OFF YOU KNOW INTO THE ADJACENT DITCH OR LANDS OR WHATEVER WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I MEAN FOR FOR A LOT OF IT WE ARE IN AN URBAN AREA COLLECTING THAT RAINWATER AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, GETTING RID OF IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PREVENT OUR STREETS FROM FLOODING WHAT CURB AND GOT IT ALSO DOES IT PROVIDES A CLEAN EDGE FOR THE PLOWS TO YOU KNOW CLEAR SNOW THROUGHOUT THE WINTER AND IT ALSO PREVENTS THOSE PLOWS FROM DOING DAMAGE TO THE YARDS AND DURING PLOWING OPERATIONS AS WELL. SO IT'S BEEN VERY PRACTICE, VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN URBAN AREAS TO, YOU KNOW, INSTALL THE CURB AND GUTTER COLLECT THE RAINWATER AND THEN ULTIMATELY TREAT IT HIGHWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT VARIES ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE METRO. SO LIKE FOR THE FOR 94 PROJECT SO THEY ARE INSTALLING FOUR INCH CURB IN SPOTS THROUGH THERE. THEY ALSO HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE IT IS A RURAL DITCH SECTION WHERE THAT WATER CAN JUST KIND OF SHIFT OFF THE ROADWAY AND INTO THE DITCHES ITSELF CITY WHEN WE CAN WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY TO PROVIDE DITCHES EVERYWHERE FOR ALL OF THAT STORMWATER RUNOFF. ALL RIGHT, THANKS. I'M PRETTY CLEAR ON THAT. THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT TAXES OR SOMETHING AND I WASN'T REALLY CLEAR AS TO WHAT MAYBE ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES OF THE MANAGER GOT THAT QUESTION WRONG AROUND TAXES IF YOU LEAVE THE CURVE CURB PART ON OFF OF IT BUT OR MY STAFF REMEMBERS THAT BUT THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE COUNSEL WE MIGHT WANT TO LIMIT OUR COMMENTS. WE STILL GOT A VERY STIFF AGENDA TO GO TO SO PLEASE. WELL I MEAN THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT FOLKS WHO'VE GOT QUESTIONS HERE AND JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE ANSWER IT. WE'D BE UNFORTUNATE TO NOT GET THROUGH OUR ENTIRE AGENDA BUT THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE. WE SHOULD MAYBE LET THIS THING GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE IN THE MEETING SO WOULD BE MY COME BACK TO BOTH OF YOU THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGER IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE AGENDA. YEAH MAYOR I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO THAT THAT TAX THING FOR THAT THAT RESIDENTS OUT THERE PUT TOWARDS THE TAX QUESTION AGAIN I'M NOT I'M NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHAT THAT QUESTION WAS. I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING THAT AGREE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT IF YOU GET RID OF THE CURB AND GUTTER SIDES OF IT THAT YOU COULD REINVEST THOSE TAX DOLLARS ADDED TO THE SIDEWALKS FOR THAT TYPE OF THING. AND I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE OR A COMPONENT TO THAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHY ARE WE ALSO PAYING FOR THESE TAXES INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THE STATE AND THE COUNTY HAVE ALREADY ASSESSED AS PEOPLE TAXES THROUGH OTHER OTHER MEANS. SO I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT'S WHAT IT WAS IF I CAN CLARIFY WHAT I RECALL HE SAID THE RESIDENT MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THE TAXES WE WERE BEING CHARGED TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES AND FOR THE SEWER AND AND WATER WHENEVER THERE WAS A DAMAGE HE JUST GOT FIX WITHOUT CHARGING THE RESIDENTS AND WITH THE PMP IF IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD THAT ASSESSMENT GETS PASSED ON TO THE RESIDENTS. THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT HE HAD. IF ANYBODY HAS AN ANSWER CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE IT BECAUSE THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE QUESTION WAS AGAIN YEAH I THINK THAT THE THE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUESTION WAS THE UTILITY FEES ARE COLLECTED TO PAY FOR SOMEONE'S UTILITY PROJECT. SO FOR THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION FOR THAT RECONSTRUCTION COMPONENT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HAS I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A COMPONENT OF THE TOTAL FUNDING OF THAT PROJECT. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT THE CITY HAS HAD FOR MANY YEARS AND THE REASON BEING BEHIND THAT IS THAT THERE IS THE THE STATE STATUTE THAT ALLOWS MUNICIPALITIES TO ASSESS SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE PUMP PROJECT AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BENEFIT TO THOSE PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE PROPERTIES ARE BEING ASSESSED AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ASSESSED JUST BECAUSE YES THEY'RE PAYING THIS THROUGH CITYWIDE PROPERTY TAXES BUT YOU'RE ALSO RECEIVING A BENEFIT FROM THE IMPROVEMENT THAT'S ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO THAT'S HOW THAT IS THAT COST IS JUSTIFIED AND THAT'S IN STATE STATUTES. SO AGAIN THAT'S WHAT WE DO THAT ANALYSIS TO CONFIRM THAT THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT THAT'S BEING ASSESSED DOES NOT EXCEED THAT BENEFIT THEY RECEIVE FROM THAT IMPROVEMENT THAT PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. I SHOULD SAY IF YOU GET REALLY HEARD BECAUSE YOU'RE I MEAN YOU GUYS HAVE PAID 75% OF IT. RIGHT. AND SAY YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE ANOTHER STREET TO THE CURB. WE DON'T NEED IT. THE WATER IS DRAINED REALLY GOOD FOR THE LAST SINCE 1958. OKAY. I PUT MY OPINION RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS . THE ASSESSMENT PART IS THE MOST CONFUSING PART EVER AND I KNOW PERSONALLY BECAUSE I HAD MY STREET RECONSTRUCTED LAST YEAR I MEAN GET YOUR ASSESSMENT IT'S FOUR GRAND AND THAT'S UNTIL YOU GET THE THE BIDS OUT AND THE BIDS COME BACK AND THEN IT CHANGES AND THEN WE DO THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PART AND THEN I'LL SEND IT'S FOR GRAND IS NOT FOR ME ANYMORE AND FOR ME MY CASE HAD DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN TO LIKE $1,500 AND SO WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE PLANNING FOR THIS RIGHT NOW IN NOVEMBER DECEMBER IN 2023 WE'RE LIKE OH ,FOUR GRAND WE GOT TO START SAVING FOR THIS BECAUSE WE GOT TO PAY FOR THIS IN A YEAR. SO HOW MUCH WE SAVE EVERY MONTH TO PAY OFF THE FOUR GRAND AND THEN COME NEXT FALL WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE WHICH THE CITY DID A GREAT JOB AND MY KIDS LOVE SEEING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY EVEN LOVE MORE BIKING, ROLLERBLADING, SCOOTER ING ALL THE WAY DOWN OUR NEW ROAD. BUT COME NOVEMBER MY ASSESSMENT THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY IS SO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ASSESSED A YEAR AGO AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB AT TO SHOW BECAUSE IT IS REALLY CONFUSING AND YOU EXPECT A HUGE BILL AND ALLISON IS NOT A HUGE BILL OR IT'S NOT AS BIG AS YOU THOUGHT BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PLAN FOR IT. AND SO THAT THAT'S THE PIECE TO ME THAT ALWAYS MAKES THIS REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO HAD BEEN ON THAT STREET SINCE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 73 OR 74. THEY SAID THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN RECONSTRUCTED. IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE CENTRAL BLOOMINGTON REALLY NICE SOILS BUT AGAIN WE WERE LIKE OH IT'S NOT CRACKED TOO BAD THERE'S A COUPLE OF POTHOLES HERE AND THERE BUT WE CAN PATCH IT UP. BUT THE ASSESSORS AND ENGINEER SAID OKAY YOU'RE SUBLEVEL IS THE CONCERN. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON TOP, IT'S WHAT'S ON THE BOTTOM. IF WE DON'T DO THIS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAYS. AND AS WE'VE SEEN COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, COSTS FOR ROAD MATERIALS HAS SKYROCKETED SKYROCKETED LIKE IF WE KNEW THE PANDEMIC WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WE SHOULD HAVE FIXED ALL THE ROADS IN 2019. BUT WE DIDN'T. BUT WE'RE HERE NOW AND SO WE KNOW THE BEST TIME TO DO SOMETHING WAS YESTERDAY THE NEXT BEST TIME TO DO SOMETHING IS TODAY. IF WE WAIT TILL TOMORROW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW'S GOING TO BRING AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE CONFUSION THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE IT IS NOT EASY AND SO ESPECIALLY FOR ZYLON CIRCLE BECAUSE WEST PUSHED LAKE ROAD NEEDS BECAUSE IT IS A BIGGER ROAD THAT COLLECTS AND BRINGS IN THAT WORK IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE AND SO IT'S DO YOU WANT TO CONSTRUCTION JOBS TO HAPPEN WITHIN A FEW YEARS OF EACH OTHER OR DO YOU WANT TO GET A TICKET ALL AT ONE TIME? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART. BUT I SEE THE BENEFIT OF OUR PMP THAT'S A REASON WHY RESIDENTS SAY THEY LIKE COMING TO BLOOMINGTON INSTEAD OF SAINT PAUL MINNEAPOLIS RICHFIELD BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE ACTUALLY NICE, OUR ROADS ACTUALLY GET PLOWED IN THE WINTER. THERE'S NO POTHOLES BECAUSE OUR CITY DOES A GOOD JOB TO MAINTAIN THAT AS YOU GO DOWN SOUTH LOUISIANA THEY STILL PAY THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND THE ROADS LOOK LIKE AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE MY STANCE IS. I APPRECIATE AND KNOW THAT ONCE THIS WORK IS DONE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD ROAD FOR A GOOD LONG TIME. MR. WALKER THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THE COUNCIL'S BENEFIT. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INFORMED ME THAT THIS PROCEDURALLY IS AN ITEM THAT WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES IN FAVOR TO PASS WHICH WOULD BE ALL SIX OF YOU HERE TONIGHT. SO IF WE STILL HAVE UNCERTAINTY OR QUESTIONS AT ALL ABOUT THIS STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND WORK ON ADDITIONAL ANSWERS OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE COUNCIL AND BRING THIS BACK PROPOSED THAT THAT WOULD BE THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. SO WE JUST HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I DON'T THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO GET ALL THOSE ANSWERED BY THE 24TH BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY DO IT BY THE MEETING AFTER THAT WHICH WOULD BE THE EIGHTH. BUT AGAIN THAT'S JUST PROCEDURALLY IF THERE WERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH RESERVATIONS TONIGHT APPROVE I THINK IT'S OKAY AND I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION MR. MAYOR PRO TEM JUST AFTER THE AFTER THE MOTION IN THE SECOND I DID HAVE A QUICK COMMENT BUT IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING THINGS ALONG I'LL GET IT ON THE RECORD AFTER THAT THAT'S GO BY YOU. OKAY SO I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ORDERING THE 2026 DASH 1 TO 1 PAVEMENT MANAGER GROUP MEMBER SANDRO YES SORRY MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS THE THE PROPOSAL BY THE CITY MANAGER PROCEDURALLY WAS TO CONTINUE THE ITEM AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AND THE ITEM NEEDS SIX VOTES TONIGHT AND IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD. SO I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT'S POSSIBLE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. AND WE HAVE BRIAN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO. ALL RIGHT. JUST CONFIRMING I MEAN YEAH, WE HAVE 40S TO DO THIS. YEAH. SO SO WE NEED WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO EXTEND A MEETING TO 945. I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION. OKAY. IT'S A FAVOR I MIGHT JUST PASSES SIX ZERO TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 945. OKAY. IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO MAKE THE MOTION NOW, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM OKAY, GREAT. I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ORDERING THE 2026 DASH 1 TO 1 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT STREET REFERENCES NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 13 SO AGAIN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OKAY IF YOU IF YOU WILL LET ME THEN MAKE THAT COMMENT THAT I REQUESTED. THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. SO ZIONS CIRCLE FOLKS ARE IN MY PATCH AND I CARE DEEPLY THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THIS. I'D BE I WANTED TO MAKE TWO COMMENTS ON THIS ONE THANK YOU ENGINEERING FOR SITTING DOWN WITH THEM IN ADVANCE. WE NEED TO GET BETTER AT DOING THAT. ALSO INVITE YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO THOSE MEETINGS IF YOU COULD PLEASE ESPECIALLY THE DISTRICT LEVEL ONES BECAUSE WE LOVE TO SHOW UP AND BE HELPFUL AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT ALSO I WANT THE FOLKS FROM ZYLON TO KNOW TO REACH OUT TO US TO DIRECTLY IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. I AM NOT A FAN OF THE PMP. I'M A FAN OF THE PMP PROGRAM. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE THE THE THE METHOD I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE TO CONSERVATIVE AND SO I WILL CONTINUE POUNDING ON THAT ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW I DO BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING AT A 31 IS BAD I UNDERSTAND THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT 78 IS LIKE NOT BAD. AND SO GETTING THE 75 OR 60 OR WHATEVER BEFORE WE DO THINGS SO I CONTINUE TO BE FRUSTRATED BY THIS ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S I THINK IT FEELS ARBITRARY AND THAT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. SO WHAT THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE THESE ARE ENGINEERS WHO HAVE THEIR LIFE THEIR LIFE IS DEDICATED TO THESE KINDS OF THINGS. THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO AND WE PAY THEM TO BE OUR EXPERTS. AND SO WHILE I AM CRITICAL SOMETIMES AND SKEPTICAL MOST TIMES ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, I DO TRUST THAT IF YOU SAY THAT THIS ROAD IS THIS CLOSE TO WHATEVER ESPECIALLY GIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE AND THIS FLUCTUATIONS IN TEMPERATURE AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE MAKING ROAD CHALLENGES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THAT I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE SO BUT I DO ESPECIALLY WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE ISLAND CIRCLE FOLKS TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT. YEP. SO WE SHOULD VERSUS WAIT WE WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT SO I DON'T THOSE IN FAVOR I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO RIGHT ON ITS AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM 4.7 THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY'S ANNUAL MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES. WELL, THIS IS NOT JUST YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ONE. THERE'S A CHANNEL ON PAGE MARCH SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED WITH THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE JUST PASSED NOW OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE NIGHT WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 4.9. THE COUNCIL IS ASKED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PARKING AND PARKING RAMPS. OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS WERE SENT IN THIS ITEM BERNADETTE GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS BERNADETTE GLASPIE AND TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING THE PROPOSED PARKING OR OPERATIONALLY SINCE ORDINANCE INCLUDING THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM THE DATA SUPPORTING THE ORDINANCE AND THE STEPS AHEAD SHOULD THE ORDINANCE BE ADOPTED. THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU AS A PUBLIC HEARING . I'M ALL RIGHT. IT'S NOT MY FIRST SORRY GO. ALL RIGHT. SO TO RECAP THE BLOOMINGTON PARKING DATA WE HAVE 179 PARKING RAMPS WITHIN THE CITY WHICH 96% ARE 20 PLUS YEARS OLD. 54% ARE MORE THAN 40 YEARS OLD. AND AGAIN, THE PARKING RAMP OPERATIONAL LICENSE ORDINANCE IS BEING PROPOSED AS ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY THE PROGRAM DESIGN. >> SO IT IS A BI ANNUAL EVERY TWO YEAR LICENSING REQUIREMENT. AGAIN BEING INSPECTED AND A REPORT AND APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED BY A STATE LICENSED ENGINEER AND THAT REPORT AND THE APPLICATION BEING REVIEWED BY THE BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS DIVISION THE LICENSE FEE PER RAMP EVERY TWO YEARS IS $175 AND THEN THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THAT THE CITY ON AN EXPENSES IS APPROXIMATELY 31,000 BI ANNUALLY. >> LICENSES MAY BE ISSUED WITH CONDITIONS IF IMMEDIATE REPAIRS ARE REQUIRED BY THAT STATE LICENSE ENGINEER AND THEN IF THERE ARE MAINTENANCE CONCERNS WHICH ARE AND IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT APPLICATION AND REPORTING PROCESS WE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS AND REVIEW OF THE THE APPLICATION AND THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION COULD BE TAKEN IF NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE FOR ADDITIONAL COMPLIANCE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. SO WHAT TYPES OF PARKING RAMPS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED AND EXAMPLES ONE AND TWO IT WOULD BE RAMPS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO SUSTAINED SNOW STORAGE DURING WINTER MONTHS. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE LARGE SNOW REMOVAL EQUIPMENT VEHICLES THAT CLEAR THE SNOW AND THAT ARE EXPOSED TO CORROSIVE DEICING SALTS ETC. AND THEN THE UNDERGROUND SLAB AND GRADE GARAGES WHICH WOULD BE EXAMPLES THREE WITH ONE LEVEL UNDERGROUND NO ADDITIONAL PARKING STRUCTURE ABOVE THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS ORDINANCE. SO SOME PROS AND CONS TO THE PARKING RAMP LICENSE OR PROGRAM OBVIOUSLY PROVIDING ASSURANCE THAT PARKING RAMPS ARE INSPECTED BY A LICENSED STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FOR STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY REDUCING THE RISK OF FUTURE STRUCTURAL FAILURES AND ENHANCING LIFE SAFETY ENABLING CITY STAFF TO REVIEW AND INSPECTOR AND PREPARES FOR COMPLIANCE DURING THE CORRECTION PROCESS AND THEN THE POTENTIAL CONS TO THIS WOULD BE CLOSURE OF RAMPS IF INSPECTIONS REVEAL STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES POTENTIALLY HIGHER COSTS FOR OWNERS IF REPAIRS ARE REQUIRED INCREASED WORKLOAD FOR STAFF IF OWNER FAILS TO MAKE REPAIRS TRIGGERING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. AND JUST ONE COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THE CON SIDE OF THIS IS THESE THINGS MAY STILL HAPPEN WITHOUT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND REPORT IF WE FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE RAMPS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WE WOULD STILL BE FOLLOWING MAYBE HAVING TO CLOSE RAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS WE HAVE A LET'S TALK PAGE THAT WAS LAUNCHED IN FEBRUARY OF 2025. WE SENT LETTERS TO ALL RAMP OWNERS AND APRIL OF 25 AS WELL AS A BRIEFING ARTICLE THAT WAS POSTED. WE HELD A MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN JUNE OF 25 AND THEN WE HAD A SEPTEMBER 2025 CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION STUDY SESSION ITEM AND THEN TODAY WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING NO. >> SO NEXT STEPS IF ADOPTED WE WOULD ESTABLISH AND TEST THE NEW LICENSE TYPE WITHIN OUR LICENSING SOFTWARE TRAINING STAFF AND THE NEW LICENSING PROCESS NOTIFICATION THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE ORDINANCE AND UPCOMING LICENSURE IN 2026 THE ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE JANUARY FIRST, 2026 WITH THE APPLICATION DUE JANUARY 30TH 2026. THERE WILL BE FLEXIBILITY FOR RAMP OWNERS TO SUBMIT THEIR ENGINEER REPORTS DUE TO THIS BEING A NEW LICENSE REQUIREMENT AND WITH THAT I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS . DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR CONTROL CENTER? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU DOING GOOD, THANK YOU. CAN YOU CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GOT FROM THE THE PARKING RAMP OWNERS ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, WAS A GENERAL IDEA LIKE OH, THIS WILL PROBABLY HELP ME OR I REALLY HATE THAT YOU'RE GETTING IN MY BUSINESS LIKE WHICH DIRECTION WERE PEOPLE GOING? >> GENERALLY SPEAKING, SURPRISINGLY A LOT OF OWNERS ALREADY DO THIS SO ON THEIR OWN THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE KIND OF LIKE OUR PMP PROGRAM THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THEIR BUILDINGS AND THEIR PARKING RAMPS AND SO A LOT OF THEM ALREADY HAVE REPAIRS THAT THEY'VE MADE. WE DID RECEIVE FEEDBACK REGARDING THE UNDERGROUND SLAB ONES FOR THAT. DO NOT HAVE ANY TO TO LEVEL OF PARKING AND SO THINKING THAT IF IT'S A SLAB ON GRADE GARAGE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED THE SAME WAY AS SOMETHING THAT HAS MULTIPLE LEVELS OF PARKING. >> AND SO THAT WAS CHANGED IN THE LATER DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE. SO BASED OFF OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE OWNER AND THEN MOST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE VERY THEY WERE VERY AWARE WE CONTACTED BEAUMONT AND A LOT OF THEM ARE THE MAINTENANCE AND MANAGERS FOR THOSE RAMPS AND SO IT'S A LOT OF THEM ARE OWNERS IN OTHER CITIES AND SO THEY ALREADY ARE DOING THIS IN OTHER CITIES AND THANKS PRETTY A MEMBER CUTTER AND YOU KNOW SO YOU KNOW THEY CAME SO MANY. ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ALL RIGHT WELL AT THIS TIME I OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I GUESS NOT. PRIYANKA, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON? >> MAYOR PRO TEM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE. I CONSOLE THE PUBLIC HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY BECAUSE OKAY I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED SAYING THOSE IN FAVOR I I VOICE VERSUS PERSON SIX ZERO COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION AND ITEM 4.9 COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. I THINK THIS IS VERY A COMMON SENSE SOLUTION TO FUTURE PROBLEMS AND EVEN CURRENT PROBLEMS. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HEIGHTS AND YOU KNOW IF THERE HAD BEEN MAYBE A PROGRAM IN PLACE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES IT COULD HAVE PREVENTED SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING. AND SO AND THEN YOU JUST SAID MY OTHER CITIES ARE ALREADY DOING THIS SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE NEW FOR A LOT OF THE OPERATORS THAT WHO MANAGE THESE PROPERTIES. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. SO THANK YOU ACTING MAYOR. I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER JUST SAID AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REPORT BACK ON WHAT THE STATUS IS BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE THE CONDITION OF THE PARKING RAMPS IN BLOOMINGTON ARE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WITH THE HEIGHTS AND WHAT WE HAD TO DO IT I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN WE THINK WE KNOW OF AND I WANT TO PREPARE IN CASE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME AND SAY AH RACHEL, HANDLE IT. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE NEED SUPPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME BACK SO WE KNOW WHAT THE CONDITION OF OUR RAMPS ARE. >> MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER SO BASED OFF OF YOUR COMMENT FROM A STUDY SESSION PREVIOUSLY ON THE CONDOS AND HOA, I WENT OUT TO EACH CONDO BUILDING AND SO I BELIEVE THERE'S LIKE LITERALLY A HANDFUL THAT WOULD EVEN BE PART OF THIS PARKING ANYBODY SENSING PROGRAM. AND THEN AS PART OF THE WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH THIS ORDINANCE THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL HEIGHTENED REQUESTS FOR INSPECTION. AND SO I'VE GONE OUT AND THERE HAVE BEEN ORDERS SENT TO MULTIPLE OTHER PARKING ROOM OWNERS THAT ARE NOW IN PERMIT PROCESS. SO I DO BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE SOME HOPEFULLY AGAIN COMING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE UNDER I'M READY TO MAKE THE MOTION IF THAT IF YOU'RE DOING WOULD LIKE I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE STAFF FOR RESPONDING TO MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD EARLIER. I REALLY APPRECIATE ESPECIALLY THE AROUND THE FEE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DEALS AND EVERYONE MAKE THE MOTION I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE CREATE TO CREATE A LICENSE REQUIREMENT AND LICENSING STANDARD FOR PARKING RAMP OPERATION THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 14 APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE. SO I AND MR. MAYOR PRO TEM I'LL MAKE A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE A LICENSE REQUIREMENT AND LICENSING STANDARDS FOR PARKING RAMP OPERATION THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 14 AND APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE SO THE I WOULD WE ARE NOW OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS NO ONE 5102 IF I KEEP READING YEAH OKAY WELL IT'S OKAY. OKAY OKAY. THIS IS US. YEAH THIS IS A STUDY ITEM PLANNING STAFF WOULD PROVIDE THE OVERVIEW FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL DISCUSSION NO FORMAL ACTION SCHEDULE AT THIS TIME UNLESS THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DIRECT STAFF. OTHERWISE LET'S HAVE STAFF REPORT TO I'M SORRY MY SHARING OR EARN. THANK YOU. OKAY MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. THIS IS A STUDY SESSION LOOKING AT THE OFFICIAL BUILDING HEIGHT MAP FOR THE CITY OR I'M SORRY THAT TITLE SHOULD BE CHANGED THE OFFICIAL HEIGHT LIMITS MAP FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO LET'S SUMMARIZE THE FIRST BULLET. SECOND BULLET IS WITH THIS EXAMINATION STAFF HAS PREPARED SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE HEIGHT LIMITS MAP THAT REFLECT LAND USE GUIDANCE THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED SINCE THE ORIGINAL STANDARDS WERE ADOPTED BACK IN 2010. I'LL GET BACK AND GET TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AND SO THE REFLECTIVE OF THAT LAND USE GUIDANCE IN ADOPTED VISIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION HAS MORE DETAIL TO COME. SO THE BACKGROUND BACK IN 2010 THERE WAS REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT WAS ADOPTED TO REGULATE BUILDING HEIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THERE ARE NUMEROUS PARTS TO THAT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THOSE BULLETS THERE WERE SHADOW CASTING LIMITS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BUILDING STEP BACKS FOR UPPER STORIES OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE ADJACENT TO PEDESTRIAN STREETS TO REDUCE THE SHADING ON THOSE STREETS AND THE THIRD BULLET WHICH IS THE THE BULK OF THE DISCUSSION WELL ACTUALLY IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT DISCUSSION IS THE WAY WE REGULATE HEIGHTS. WE DO IT BY LOCATION OR REFERRING TO A MAP. SO WE HAVE MAPPED MAP BASED REGULATION AND THAT'S WHAT SET UP SOME BUILDING HEIGHT CATEGORIES REFLECTED IN THIS MAP BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. SO THERE ARE FIVE HIGH CATEGORIES TECHNICALLY SIX BECAUSE THOSE THAT ARE NOT COLORED ARE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES OR 40FT BUT OTHERWISE THERE ARE FIVE OTHER HEIGHT CATEGORIES THERE FOR YOU TO SEE AND DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE THE AIRPORT HEIGHT LIMITS ARE OBVIOUSLY THOSE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE AFFECTED BY AIRPORT ACTIVITY. BUT OTHERWISE YEAH AND THEN THE BULK OF THE NO LIMITED OR NO HEIGHT LIMITS ARE ALONG FOR 94 AND ARE CONCENTRATED AROUND 98TH STREETS AND 35 W SO WITH THAT INFORMATION OR YOU KNOW WITH THE HIGH MAP AS IT IS STAFF STARTED COMPILING RESOURCES TO CONDUCT OUR ANALYSIS. WE LOOKED AT CURRENT LAND USE GUIDANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. FROM THERE WE FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR THOSE THAT ARE GUIDED MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THAT LAND USE GUIDANCE. THEN WE ALSO CONSIDERED PLANS THAT WERE ADOPTED FOR SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WE HAVE NORMANDY DALE LAKE PAN LYNDALE AVENUE SOUTH LOOP AND THE 98TH STREET STATION AREA AROUND YEAH AROUND THE 90TH STREET STATION AND BACK IN 2017 YOU PROBABLY ALREADY FAMILIAR BECAUSE OR YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT BUT BACK IN 2017 THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY DID A STUDY OF COMMERCIAL NODES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN 20 INTO THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WAS ALSO PART OF A TOOLKIT FOR MAINTAINING THOSE VALUABLE COMMERCIAL NODES. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED AND THOSE ARE BEING ALSO CONSIDERED IN THIS ANALYSIS. HERE ARE THOSE YOU KNOW, A BIGGER PICTURE OF EACH NODE THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND THE LAND USES SURROUNDING EACH OF EACH AND THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. SO WITH THAT WE PREPARED THIS AMENDED HEIGHT LIMIT MAP. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THE WHAT FED INTO THAT WAS A LOGIC FRAMEWORK THAT STAFF DEVELOPED BASED ON AGAIN OUR ANALYSIS OF CURRENTLY AND HIS GUIDANCE AND THE ADOPTED PLANS FOR CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC AREAS. SO PART OF THAT FRAMEWORK WAS LOOKING AT MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HAVING A MINIMUM BUILDING TIME LIMIT OF THREE STORIES OR 50FT THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE CAPPED AT TWO STORIES OR 40FT. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE GUIDANCE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE TYPE OF AND THE RESIDENTIAL TYPES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STAFF FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO RAISE THAT HEIGHT LIMIT TO THREE STORIES OR 50FT WITH I MEAN KIND OF APPLY THAT SAME SORT OF ANALYSIS TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOOKING AT THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING TYPES THAT ARE IN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEN RAISING THAT UP TO FOUR STORIES OR 60FT. AND OF COURSE WE ALWAYS CAUTION THAT MAYBE THE HEIGHT COULD BE EVEN GREATER DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT AGAIN RELATING BACK TO THOSE AREA PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED SINCE 2010. HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF KIND OF HOW WE APPLY THAT FRAMEWORK. SO LOOKING AT CURRENT BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITS, LOOKING AT THE LAND USE GUIDANCE YOU KNOW AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT LAND USE GUIDANCE AGAIN IS THE HIGH DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT THIRD GRAPHIC YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A THERE'S A COMMERCIAL NODE THAT IS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT WE ALSO HAD TO CONSIDER AND FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ADJUST HEIGHT BASED ON THE PRESENCE OF THAT COMMERCIAL NODE AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE PROPOSED HEIGHT LIMITS IN THAT FINAL PAIN. UM SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS THESE AREN'T MASSIVE CONCERNS BUT NONETHELESS WE WANTED TO BE HONEST AND UPFRONT AND WE DID LOOK AT YOU KNOW THE THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN WITH RESPECT TO THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND WOULD THAT COMPROMISE THE THE THE HEIGHT BONUS THAT YOU GET AS AN INCENTIVE AND FROM OUR FROM OUR ANALYSIS IT WOULD NOT COMPROMISE THAT IF YOU MEET THE BASE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS YOU STILL GET THAT EXTRA STORY BUT EVEN IF YOU IF YOU EVEN GO DEEPER IN AFFORDABILITY YOU DON'T GET EXTRA HEIGHT. SO WE WANT PEOPLE TO OR YOU KNOW THE ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED TO ENCOURAGE THAT DEEPER AFFORDABILITY BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANY FURTHER TO GET AN EXTRA STOREY. SO THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT HELP OR YEAH OR I SHOULDN'T SAY IT MIGHT HELP BUT IF PEOPLE ARE OR IF DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING FOR GREATER HEIGHT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED EXTRA INCENTIVES TO PERHAPS AFFORD THE ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT WILL COME WITH THAT HEIGHT. SO IT IT WORKS REALLY WELL WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES AREN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY MATERIALIZE IN TALLER BUILDINGS. THEY'RE STILL THERE'S A LOT OF FORCES AT PLAY. THEY STILL HAVE OTHER STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET. THERE'S A LOT OF SHADOW CASTING STANDARDS THAT YOU KNOW, AGAIN IF THEY'RE ADJACENT TO PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THEY CAN'T BLOCK THEM OUT FROM THE SUN. THERE'S OFF STREET PARKING, LANDSCAPING ALL THAT STUFF STILL HAS TO BE ADHERED TO AND FOLLOWED AND THERE'S ALSO MARKET FORCES THAT ARE AT PLAY THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AND STATE BUILDING CODE ALSO REGULATES HEIGHT BASED ON OCCUPANCY FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, ALL THAT STUFF. SO WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? THE MAP IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY MATERIALIZE IN THE BUILDING HEIGHTS THAT STAFF HAVE LAID OUT BUT NONETHELESS WE WANTED TO GIVE OR WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAND USE GUIDANCE AND THE ADOPTED PLANS THAT THAT HAVE COME OUT SINCE 2010. THERE HASN'T BEEN A FORMAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT BUT NONETHELESS WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, CONTACT WITH PROPERTIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING OR REDEVELOPING ONE WELL I MEAN THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY WE'VE SPOKEN WITH IS MINNESOTA MASONIC HOMES AND THEY RECENTLY PROPOSED AND ARE HAD AN EXPANSION REVIEWED AT DRC AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY LIMITED TO THREE STORIES OR 50FT AND WHAT THEY SHOWED IN THEIR THEIR THEIR CONCEPT FOR THE EXPANSION IS AN A GREATER HEIGHT OF NEEDING FOUR STOREYS OR 65FT. AND SO GIVEN THE THE CONTEXT OF THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF AN INCREASE OF OF HEIGHT TO FOUR STORIES OR 60FT I KNOW THERE'S THAT FIVE FOOT DIFFERENCE BUT THEY CAN PROBABLY MAKE THAT UP THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE SO WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT BUT NONETHELESS WE'RE REQUESTING YOUR GUIDANCE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THIS IS THE YOU KNOW, ON THE VERY LEFT YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE CURRENT BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE IN ON THE MINUTES MINNESOTA MASONIC HOMES SITE AND THE CENTER IS THE LAND USE GUIDANCE AND IN THAT LAST PLANE IS OR LAST PAIN IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE CHANGED FROM THE CURRENT HEIGHT LIMIT TO THE PROPOSED HEIGHT LIMIT OF FOUR STOREYS OR 60FT. SO NEXT STEPS THIS IS A STUDY ITEM SO THERE'S NO FORMAL MOTION REQUIRED. WE WILL BE TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL AS WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 23RD AND THEN WE'LL PREPARE AN ORDINANCE AND THEN WE'LL PRESENTED TO YOU ALL AND TO YOU THIS YEAR BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR RESPECTIVE LEE SO TO THAT TO THAT OCTOBER 23RD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WE DID RECEIVE SOME GOOD FEEDBACK WE HAD THAT SUMMARIZED HERE IN THIS TABLE BEFORE YOU WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH QUESTION ONE BY ONE AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND EACH QUESTION THAT'S FINE. OTHERWISE IF YOU'RE JUST HAPPY WITH OR I MEAN IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE FEEDBACK GIVEN BY PLANNING COMMISSION WE JUST LIKE TO CONSIDER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AT ONCE THAT'S ALSO APPROPRIATE OR HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE BUT OTHERWISE I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE IF YOU'D LIKE . COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 5.1 TO BECAUSE REMEMBER WE DON'T GET A START. SO JUST KIND OF LISTENING TO OUR YOU KNOW THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT SEEM THEY HAD HAD RELATIVE AGREEMENT THERE WAS ONE SECTION THOUGH WHERE THEY HAD SOME DISAGREEMENT IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT WITH STAFF THAT I REMEMBER JUST AFTER OFF OF THE BAT AND TRY TO REMEMBER IT WAS ON LYNDALE I THINK IT WAS LYNDALE AND YOU KNOW ACTIVE MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THE THE THE POINT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AROUND 86TH AND LYNDALE THANK YOU. SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE TREATMENT BETWEEN THAT IN 98TH STREET OR THE INTERSECTION WITH 98TH STREET AND SO THAT'S WHICH POINT IS THAT YOU KNOW POINT NUMBER FIVE AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO WALK ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS MIRROR OR NOT BUT I JUST I KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THIS WILL GIVE YOU ALL MY COMMENTS NOW SO WE'RE DONE WITH ME MAKE THIS MAKE IT FASTER AND I GUESS WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING AS WE LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THING OVERALL, YOU KNOW, FIRST I THINK THE IDEA OF LETTING OTHER RESIDENTS GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO TO COMMENT ON THIS, IT'S PRETTY COMPLEX. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT GETS DONE FROM AN ENGAGEMENT STANDPOINT. SO GOOD LUCK THERE BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT FEEDBACK. BUT I THINK REALLY THE QUESTION I HAVE AS I LOOK AT THESE HEIGHT MAP PIECES AND WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED HERE AND WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE DOCUMENT IS REALLY MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS OUR WHAT IS WHAT IS PLANNING STANCE ON LOW DENSITY ON OUR ARTILLERY ROADS AND OUR COLLECTOR ROADS KIND OF LONG TERM AND THAT'S SORT OF THE WAY I'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF THAT IF IF THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH RESIDENTIAL THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING OR BEING CLOSE TO IT ,THEN YOU KNOW MY MY OPINIONS AND POINTS OF VIEW IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS ARE COMPLETELY, ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN YOU KNOW BUT SINCE I'M NOT REALLY CLEAR AS TO REALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT WE'RE KIND OF THINKING I KNOW IN A WAY YOU KNOW THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S ALREADY THE PLAN OUT THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. BUT IF IF STAFF WOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE PLANS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU KNOW, HAD THAT ANSWER TO THAT LOW DENSITY ALONG THE ARTILLERY ROAD THAT WOULD HAVE GIVE ME A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF WHAT LONG TERM THAT MAKES SENSE. AND SO THEN I MIGHT BE MORE INTERESTED IN IN A AND I'LL A GREATER HEIGHT OR NO LIMIT ON THOSE TYPES OF PLACES BECAUSE I JUST COULDN'T IMAGINE LIVING NEXT TO A SKYSCRAPER OR THAT KIND OF THING YOU KNOW EVENTUALLY BECAUSE THAT MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW FOR GENERALLY I AGREE WITH WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING BUT THAT'S MORE SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HAVE A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF GOING FORWARD. I BECAUSE I REMEMBER. NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU ACTING MAYOR. SO A QUICK QUESTION. SO WHEN I READ THE PACKET I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IN THE PRESENTATION PART IT SAID MDR AREAS WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES. BUT THIS SEEMS TO SAY THERE'S A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR ME THAT I MY MISUNDERSTANDING THAT NO, ACTUALLY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY OR HOW TO ARTICULATE IT WITHOUT SOUNDING CONFUSING. SO A MINIMUM MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF OF THREE STORIES OF THREE STORIES 50FT MEANING THAT WITH STAFFS AGAIN STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF LAND USE GUIDANCE IN THE AREAS IN THE PLANNING AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BE TREATED AS HAVING BEING ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO THREE THREE STORIES OR 50FT JUST IT'S REALLY IS THIS REALLY TRICKY TO SAY I'M SORRY AND I HOPE I'M WHEREVER THERE'S A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THEY WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES OR 50FT THAT'S A MINIMUM STANDARD WE'RE APPLYING TO THEM. OKAY SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM SO THAT'S THE STANDARD TRAFFIC. YES. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE THAT THAT WAS MY CONFUSION SAID MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT LIMIT OF THREE STORIES. I THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE AT LEAST THREE STORIES BUT THEY COULD BUILD A THREE STOREY 45 FOOT TALL. THEY COULD BUILD A TWO STOREY AT 40FT AND THEN THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IF STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE AND THEY USE SO THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO ABOVE THAT WITH SOME OF THE INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. YES, CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION . YOU KNOW THE QUESTION IS BECOMING CUSTOMARY WITH THE ALEXANDER SO I'LL MAKE IT TO GIVE YOU MY SENSE ON THIS I GUESS I MIGHT MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE I THINK WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR THE IDEA THAT THIS WILL GET CHANGED AGAIN WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY BAD I GUESS BUT BUT I FEEL LIKE I DON'T ALREADY HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE TALLER THAN THIS AND BLOOMINGTON ACTUALLY MIRRORED COUNCILMEMBER BYRD. THEY ARE TALLER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OF OF THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS AND THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE. I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF RIGHT I MEAN WE WHEN WE WHEN WE REVIEW PROPOSALS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE HEIGHT ALLOWED AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THAT THAT INCENTIVE STRUCTURE IN THE OLD SHOW BUT NONE THAT NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF UNLESS THEY WERE BUILT PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THESE HEIGHT STANDARDS BACK IN 2010 IN WHICH CASE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE TALLER IN THAT INSTANCE. YEAH BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY'RE TALLER THAN IS THROUGH THE SHOW. OKAY SO I PROBABLY I PROBABLY MISSED A KEY PIECE OF THIS WHICH IS WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN TYPES OF BUILDINGS. WHEN I READ OFFICIAL BUILDING HEIGHT MAP I WAS LIKE BUILDING HEIGHT LIKE IT'S ALL THE BUILDINGS AND THEN I THINK OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE TALLER THAN 60FT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS. SO WE'RE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED HERE AND I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS MY LACK OF PREPARATION ON MEDIUM DENSE DENSITY HOUSING STYLE BUILDINGS AND THEIR HEIGHT LIMITS OR MAXIMUMS. >> UH, MAYOR. ACTING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER NO, THIS IS WE DID LOOK AT MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUT THEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THE AREAS OR ALL THE AREA WITHIN THOSE THOSE PLANNING THOSE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED SINCE 2010. SO BUT STILL FOCUSED ON MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL NOT FOCUSED ON COMMERCIAL WELL KNOWING THAT ONE IS A SUBSET OF THE OTHER. >> YES, CERTAINLY. I MEAN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL BUILDINGS ACTUALLY I MEAN WITHIN THE AREAS SO SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE AREA OF THOSE PLANNING AREAS LIKE THE RETROFIT PLAN OR SOUTH OF DISTRICT PLAN, THOSE ARE WE WE WE PAID SPECIAL ATTENTION TO MEDIUM DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. HOWEVER, WITHIN THE PLANNING AREA OF LIKE THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL THAT WE ARE ALLOWING A GREATER HEIGHT TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WERE STATED IN THAT IN THAT CORRIDOR PLAN. OKAY WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON JUST RESIDENTIAL OKAY BUT BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT LIMITING IN CERTAIN AREAS TO A MAXIMUM OF 60FT. CORRECT. SO WELL THAT'S THAT'S COOL. WELL I CAN'T DO THAT ON MY COMPUTER. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. HERE WE GO. SO MAYBE IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THESE CATEGORIES AGAIN. SO WE ARE SO FOR INSTANCE AROUND 90TH AND LYNDALE WE HAVE PROPOSED THAT SOME AREAS BE TO HAVE NO HEIGHT LIMIT ESSENTIALLY. SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT IT GOES FROM THREE STORIES TO TWO NO HEIGHT LIMITS BASED ON THE AMENDMENTS WE'RE PROPOSING. I UNDERSTAND OKAY I APPRECIATE RE ADDRESSING IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE COLORS HERE. OKAY. SO I I, I TEND TO BE MORE ABOUT LIKE SHADOWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE PUT MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON ANYTHING BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I TEND TO BE OPEN ABOUT THIS STUFF TO LIKE LEAVE INTERPRETATION UP TO PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I WOULD SUPPORT WHATEVER PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTED AND I WOULD ALSO BE OKAY IF WE WERE MORE LAX THAN THAT. I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M AT . OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, BECAUSE I'M A NELSON YES . THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I GUESS JUST MY QUICK COMMENT IS I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TARGETING WHERE DENSITY MAKES SENSE AND COMMERCIAL NODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PROTECTED. I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE HEAR QUITE OFTEN AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO BALANCE THAT. I DO TEND TO PERSONALLY LEAN TOWARDS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND KIND OF LET THE MARKET DICTATE THAT AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC PROJECT AND TO YOU KNOW, VERIFY TRAFFIC, VERIFY SHADOWS, VERIFY THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY AREN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACTING. I THINK GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT IT'S SIMAR TO THE WORK WE DID AT FRIENDSHIP VILLAGE WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THEIR PROJECT AND DID A LOT OF SHADOW WORK AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT IT AND THEN THERE WAS WATER THINGS THAT HAD TO BE WORKED OUT TO MAINTAIN THAT SO THEY COULD GET THEIR PROJECT BUT YOU KNOW I THINK I THINK THIS GOES IT'S A GOOD STEP AND IT MAY NEED TO BE MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE BUT I THINK IT GOES THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT SIGNALS THAT THESE ARE THE PLACES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IT. I MEAN WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF IT. I REMEMBER 108 PLACE THAT WE DID AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT'S LIKE THREE AND A HALF STORIES IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME MAYBE MAYBE UP TO FOUR AND I THINK OVERALL IT'S OPERATED WELL NOW THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEIR YARD THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB WITH THAT. SO SO SO I JUST THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO AND YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE FLEXIBILITY TO IT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WE CAN AND AND I THINK TO THE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THIS PROTECTS IT MAINTAINS THOSE THOSE HEIGHTS AND THINGS BUT YEAH ACTUALLY DENSITY WORKS IN THOSE AREAS SO I THINK ARE GOOD JOB APPRECIATE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ITEM HERE FOR ME IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT ABOUT YOU KNOW REVIEWING THESE OR YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'LL CHANGE WE DO A PLANNING STAFF DOES RECOGNIZE THIS HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE 2010 AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT AN ONGOING PRACTICE WE WANT TO REVIEW IT MORE OFTEN AND IN CONTEXT OF DEVELOPMENT AS IT COMES TO US. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BOUND TO THE LAND USE GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT A MORE A MORE FREQUENT STEP TO REVIEW THE HEIGHT MAP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET OUT AS A COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IT'S JUST ONE QUICK SPECIFIC THING WITH REGARDS TO THE MASONIC HOMES. I LOOK THROUGH THEIR PLANS AND I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT . I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO. IT SEEMS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY HAVE THERE AND GIVEN THE LARGE ACREAGE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT I SEE ZERO PROBLEM IF THEY GO A FEW FEET HIGHER I DON'T I DO HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS I DO THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY NOW NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES. MR. WALKER NOTHING TONIGHT, SIR. COUNCIL MR. LOWMAN THANK YOU. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY STATEMENT THAT I MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE AGENDA CONSTRUCTION TONIGHT FOR STAFF. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD TO TRY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER BUT IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING SOMETIMES WHEN WE WE GET A LITTLE BIT CRAMMED ON SOME OF THE THE PUBLIC HEARING PARTS OF IT IN AND SO I APOLOGIZE BUT I DO FEEL THAT WAY AND I JUST GET CONCERNED THAT WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THOSE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED OF US AND IT'S OF A MAKING OF OUR OWN I KNOW THE FIVE MINUTE TIME PERIOD ALSO ALLOWS FOLKS TO EXTEND THAT. SO IT DOES MAKE IT COMPLICATED TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN THERE. BUT I CAN ONE APOLOGIZE TO STAFF BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DO FEEL FRUSTRATED WITH THAT PART AND THEN JUST TWO OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION JUST REAL QUICK. I KNOW THE C BLOOMINGTON LEARNED A LEAD A DEADLINE IS COMING UP I THINK IT'S JUST THIS FRIDAY OR IS IT TRY TO THINK OF IT IS THIS FRIDAY THAT'S COMING UP AND SO IF THOSE ARE INTERESTED IN BECOMING PART OF THAT PROGRAM, IT'S A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM. WE JUST LOOK TO THE GUY TO MY RIGHT YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW WELL THAT TRAINING A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO REALLY HAS HELPED TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT THING. I ALWAYS LIKE TO JUST SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE LEAVING THE COUNCIL AND I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE AS A FULL MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL AND AS A CONGREGATIONALIST WHO RESPECTS THE FOUNDATIONAL IDEAS OF CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HONOR YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THE EARLIEST AMERICANS VISION OF A THRIVING COMMUNITY AS DESCRIBED BY JOHN WINTHROP WAS A CITY UPON A SHINING HILL A PLACE WHERE WHOSE ACTIONS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE TO ALL OTHERS. THIS VISION IS NOT ONE OF MERE PRIDE BUT A PROFOUND RESPONSIBILITY AND A COVENANT TO ALL OUR PEOPLE INCLUDING A CLEAR EYED VIEW OF OUR COMMITMENT TO THOSE WHO WERE HERE FIRST. I SEE THE SAME SPIRIT OF DEEP COMMITMENT AND REFLECTION SAW AS WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON IS ADVOCACY FOR DIVERSE AND MARGINALIZED VOICES AND HIS COMMITMENT TO TACKLING COMPLEX ISSUES LIKE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AS DEMONSTRATED IN OUR RECENT POLICY DISCUSSION EVEN EVEN TONIGHT YOU'VE SHOWN A TIRELESS DEDICATION TO MAKING BLOOMINGTON A MODEL OF PROGRESS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR SERVING TO MAKE OUR CITY THE BEST POSSIBLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOOD, THOUGHTFUL AND INCLUSIVE GOVERNANCE CAN BE. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO SERVE ALONGSIDE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK . I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT TONIGHT. WELL AND I NEVER DO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MESS UP THE MAYOR WHEN THE MAYOR PROBABLY SAYS SOMETHING AT THE END BUT I WANT TO JUST GET IT IN NOW FOR YOU AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T TELL ME YOUR QUESTION TERM STILL GOES TO THE END OF THE YEAR BUT I THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM. IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE DEEPEST HONORS OF MY LIFE TO SERVE THIS GREAT CITY AND TO SERVE ALONGSIDE ALL OF YOU. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'VE TAKEN AWAY IS THAT AFTER GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU IS THAT THERE'S NO ONE UP HERE THAT I DOUBT YOUR CONVICTION AND YOUR DETERMINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY CONTINUES TO BE A THOUGHTFUL OR GROWING COMMUNITY AND SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS. APPRECIATE IT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE FOR SORT OF A CONFUSION CREATED FOR MY LACK OF EXPERIENCE. BUT IT IS IT IS EXCITING TO DO THIS ALTHOUGH I WAS A NERVOUS WRECK FOR MOST OF IT DAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS I WILL RETAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING HELP OH BECAUSE NELSON SORRY MAYOR I DON'T USUALLY DO THIS BUT I DID WANT TO JUST I SENT THIS EARLY I APPRECIATE STAFF HAD GOT BACK TO ME REGARDING TRAIN CROSSINGS AND THE LATE NIGHT CROSSINGS AND THE NOISE THAT THEY'RE MAKING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW WE HAD RESIDENTS COME TO A LISTENING SESSION. I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT A DIFFERENT THING AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE SOME OF THAT FORWARD. I NOTED THAT EDINA IT JUST STARTED A STUDY AND I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY ALREADY STARTED THERE I, I STILL THINK IT'S WORTH THE PHONE CALL TO EDINA AND ASRAF AND FIND OUT IF WE CAN COLLABORATE ON THAT AND SAVE MONEY FOR EDINA AND FOR BLOOMINGTON BY DOING ONE STUDY ON THAT. AND THERE WAS A QUESTION IN HERE AND EVEN THOUGH I MENTIONED PLACES IN WEST BLOOMINGTON THAT JUST IS BECAUSE MY DISTRICT IS IN WEST BLOOMINGTON IT WAS NOT MEANT TO EXCLUDE EAST BLOOMINGTON FROM IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A SIMILAR CONCERN AND I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THESE TRAINS ARE GOING THROUGH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO CROSS OUR STREET THEY BLOW THE HORNS AND WAKE PEOPLE UP CANDIDLY, I SLEEP THROUGH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING SO DOESN'T WAKE ME UP. BUT I'M ONLY A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY FROM IT SO IT'S IMPACTING MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST REMEMBER GARY I WOULD JUST SECOND THAT IT FEELS LIKE THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH. IT JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I COULD COME IN ON THAT IF I MAY. I'M ACTUALLY WE I ALREADY WORKING AS A CITY ON TRYING TO PROCURE FUNDS FOR THAT I'M I KNOW I'M AND BECAUSE I'M PART OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TRANSPORTATION HUB FOR ADVOCACY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE AN ABUNDANT OF FUNDS TO BE TAP INTO SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WALKER HERE AND THE STAFF HAVE ALREADY LOOK INTO APPLYING FOR GRANTS ON THAT REGARD TILL WE'RE IN GOOD CONTENTION AT THE MOMENT I THINK AND I APOLOGIZE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING WITH STEVE ELKINS AND A NEIGHBOR ON FRIDAY AND I HAD TO MOVE THAT MEETING. WE'LL HAVE THAT MEETING THIS WEEK. I WILL SAY TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE STUFF THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH NATIONAL YOU CITIES I LOOKED INTO THAT APPARENTLY THESE ARE THOSE ARE ABOUT PASSENGER TRAINS NOT FREIGHT TRAINS AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET TO USE THOSE FUNDS. BUT ANYWAY IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS TAKING THIS ON AND I DON'T HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR IT, THAT'S GREAT TOO BECAUSE I'VE OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT AWARE IF LIKE WHAT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN IS ALL OF US DOING SEPARATE WORK WE COULD LIKE GET IT UNDER ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND GET IT DONE. SO VICTOR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ON THAT'S AWESOME OR WHATEVER. I'D LOVE TO I'D LOVE TO REFER STEVE AND THE RESIDENTS AND STUFF TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY MOVING THIS FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO TAKING A MEETING THAT I CAN'T BE USEFUL AT AND THEN JUST DOUBLING UP THE WORK SO YEAH OR I'M GOING TO DO IT AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE NINE OTHER PEOPLE DOING IT GET THAT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS LIKE CAN WE KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHO THE MAYBE MAYBE THE TASK FORCE WHAT'S THE TASK FORCE WHO'S ON THE TASK FORCE AND AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF US THINKING WE KNOW SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW OR WHATEVER I'M OPEN EITHER WAY REALLY I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET IT ORGANIZED. YEAH. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF WORKING. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY WHAT MAKES THIS SPECIFICALLY LIKE WHY DO WE NEED ONLY ONLY BE ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY SPECIFIC ASK AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DOLLARS, ETC. AND SO HONING IN ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS AND GETTING A SENSE FOR IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME AND ALSO BECAUSE IT MAY NOT GET RESOLVED THERE IN WHICH CASE WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN B AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO DROP OFF WHEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY THOUGHT OH NOT THAT DIDN'T WORK AND THEN WE JUST DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON IT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE WE ASKED STAFF TO TAKE THE LEAD ON WOULD LOVE THAT TO PLAN. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ENGAGEMENT OF US OF ALL FOUR OF YEAH OH FOR IT YEAH RIGHT SO IF THERE'S NO FOR THE BUSINESS I WOULD I MAKE THE MOTION. YEAH I OKAY WHO SAY THOSE IN FAVOR I OPPOSE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THE MEDIA IS JOINED AT 945 AND 20 SIX SECONDS