As an expert transcriptionist, I have analyzed the context and flow of the meeting to identify the speakers. Since the original text did not include timestamps, I have included estimated sequential timestamps for the transcript. **Note on Speakers:** * **Mayor:** Dan Kealey * **City Manager:** Lindy Crawford * **Finance Director:** Ms. Kinswater * **Planning/Community Development:** Ms. Crosby & Lindsey Michmick * **Council Members:** Walsh, Hughes, Jones, Edberg. *** [00:00:00] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Jessica said she saw that that was my guess that clock is still slow all right we're going to call the meeting to order thank you all for being here. Uh the clerk would call the roll first. [00:00:12] **City Clerk:** Walsh? [00:00:13] **Councilmember Walsh:** Here. [00:00:14] **City Clerk:** Hughes? Jones? Edberg? [00:00:16] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** We have a full council. Will you join me in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Right into the approval of the minutes. Do i have a motion to approve the minutes from the last council meeting on april 26th? [00:00:35] **Councilmember:** Move to approve. [00:00:36] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** I have a motion a second all those in favor say aye. Any opposed? One abstention. Motion carries the minutes are approved. Moving on to item three adoption of the agenda. Does anyone have any amendments or additions or changes to that? Seeing none i'd entertain a motion to approve the agenda. I have a motion a second all those in favor of adopting the agenda say aye. [00:00:55] **Council Members:** Aye. [00:00:56] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** And the opposed? Motion carries. We have an agenda. Moving on to item four consent agenda. Do i have a motion to approve the consent agenda? [00:01:05] **Councilmember:** Second. [00:01:06] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** A second. All those in favor of approving the consent agenda to say aye. [00:01:09] **Council Members:** Aye. [00:01:10] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Any opposed? Motion carries. The consent agenda is approved. All right getting right into item five visitors and presentations. We have marketfest and manito days presentations and a resolution authorizing financial participation. I understand we have someone here to present on that who's coming forward. Dale step up. [00:01:28] **Dale Granbush:** Eric i'm dale granbush i'm a resident of wiper lake and also the business in downtown thank you for this time uh to give a short presentation console and staff thank you so as i said i'm dale granbush i've been the marketfest chair since 2006 and last year i was the co-chair of market fast important decision you know last year when we met via zoom we really weren't sure what was marketfest was going to look like for 2021. thankfully the board had uh faith in what we could accomplish so we really had three ideas of course no market fest scaled down market fest or uh not sure what we would do market fest we ended up changing the dates starting marketfest on july 1st and we went to august 5th that changes our normal timeline which is we always say mid-june to the end of july and we have pulled off what i would say successful event lots of work goes into a marketfest and i was never so happy to write a little email to then um city manager alan heineker to say that you know ellen the city staff has come together public works has the place ready we've painted the streets trash carts are ready the board has reviewed all the applications we've selected the entertainment we've placed advertisements we've delivered posters and i can say that as of 152 today july 1st marketfest is good to go and we went from that time on and really had a good event thank you again for the city support and uh just like normally i'm here i would introduce the market fest director but lisa b croft can't be with us this evening it's really my joy though to introduce the chair of market fest dan perry. [00:03:15] **Dan Perry:** Hi carter good evening everybody first of all mr mayor council members thank you for the opportunity to have some time on this evening's agenda if there's anybody in the room who's not familiar with marketfest marketfest is a community event or a festival if you will that's held for seven consecutive thursdays starting in mid-june running through the end of july we are entering our 32nd year and on a good night we can draw up to 5 000 people to the heart of downtown whitebear lake every single evening now there are very few community communities that can pull something like this off and i feel incredibly fortunate to be a part of a community just like ours a community where i have my business and i'm fortunate to be a resident as well um well market am i sorry where am i looking over there sorry i apologize um so marketfest uh the mission of marketfest has two main objectives the first one is to ultimately support the downtown businesses here in whitebear lake and the second one is to enhance the overall community marketfest each year just kind of comes together we've talked to lisa about it a number of times and just somehow every single year the pieces of the puzzle just ultimately fall together and that's uh that's from a collaboration of a large number of people in different organizations that ultimately come together with this this common mission and goal in mind next slide please our marketfest board is uh is made up of 10 members uh basically representing a variety of different businesses around uh around the white bear lake area next slide actually we can skip over this we've touched on the overview as well there are there's a theme week that goes along with every single week and today i want to just highlight the two new theme weeks that we're going to be focusing on july 14th we have a theme week of white bear hockey night which is going to be new and that's going to tie into the hockey day minnesota that we're going to have coming to white bear lake in 2023 and then the other new theme night is the afsa science and agriculture night that's going to be held on july 21st next slide please uh city has always been a tremendous advocate and a huge resource when it comes to pulling together all the pieces of market fest and actually allowing it to uh to come off without a hitch you know that's the uh the fire department the police the emts and then really focusing on the environmental resource fair which is held on july uh 28th next slide um over 180 vendors come downtown white bear lake that represent a variety of different foods arts and crafts and just other vendors we always focus on special rates for members that are really in the heart of downtown whitebear lake so city of wiper lake taxpayers receive 20 percent off of their vendor fee if you're in the special services district in the heart you receive 50 percent off of that that fee and then finally if you are have a business right in the footprint it's allowable to have a stand right outside of your space for free as well next slide just have a map that really and that's intended to be 2022 i apologize for that error just to kind of highlight the fact that the footprint is the same we're asking to utilize the same space as we have historically which is that square between third and fourth street and banning in washington square so marketfest is going to look very similar to what it has the previous years next slide i just wanted to have a quick overview of what our finances look like just some lines of expenses as well as total revenue that's generated through marketfest which predominantly comes from sponsors and vendors now last year we netted about 16 000 and we anticipate that it's going to be very similar this year the only real big change between the two years is that we were a six night event uh scale it down slightly last year and then we're going back to our seven evening event planning on going back to our seven evening event for this summer and finally moving on to the last slide this is our ask the city of white bear lake has always been tremendously supportive of marketfest not only from a financial standpoint but for the use of resources as well and our ask is seven thousand dollars to help support and offset some of the expenses that come along with with marketfest the use of downtown whitebear lake street sidewalks that was outlined in the map again extremely similar to previous years continued support of public works we typically used a public works truck and trailer for transportation of storage of chairs as well as the different barricades that are utilized to support the police the staff and regulate parking and then finally just participation in marketfest in return we'll hold seven consecutive thursday events we'll promote high quality activities and entertainment and a safe setting and ultimately promote whiter lake as a destination city for communities around us i'll pause right there to see uh what questions or comments we have thank you very much for giving us an overview. [00:08:15] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Council do we have any questions? Councilmember edberg. [00:08:18] **Councilmember Edberg:** thank you mr mayor so mr perry thank you to the comedian and all at some point i'd be curious in looking at a balance sheet of the organization don't need it tonight but if you might share that with the city manager you bet thank you. [00:08:31] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Thank you. Any other questions? I'll just say thank you again to to you and all the volunteers we look forward to another wonderful manito days and marketfest and uh with that we'll get onto some business of uh deciding whether or not we're gonna provide a little financial support your way. [00:08:45] **Dan Perry:** Sounds good thank you mayor. [00:08:47] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Thank you. So with that i'll bring it back to the council. We have a resolution before us uh that would uh that would give seven thousand dollars to marketfest uh and manatodays do i have a motion to approve the resolution as we see before us? [00:08:58] **Councilmember:** So moved. [00:09:00] **Councilmember:** Second. [00:09:01] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Motion a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries and the resolution is adopted. [00:09:12] **Paul Carlson:** days this year last year and this year next year paul carlson paul the plumber is chair so i'm looking forward to july 5th when the fireworks are over and paul takes over we have um we are the celebration group for the city of white bear lake we um we have lots of stuff going on we've got 33 i believe events going on we start with actually market fest is our first event and marketfest is a separate group from manito days although many of us are on both groups and so on but marketfest kicks off manito days on thursday june 16th then friday the 17th is the parade and we have typically we have a hundred units in the parade this year it's not going to be as many last year it was less also because we were coming off of no parade in in 2020 and last year we did have a parade it was the second of july and it was the second day after the governor had lifted restrictions on a number of people that could gather outside so we had a full crowd for the parade and we expect the same thing this year we um have we're celebrating uh a hundred years of water skiing this year and we're also celebrating the lake uh thus the the slogan of lake bears but we're celebrating 100 years and our grand marshals this year are two hall of famers of the the water ski hall of fame paul chapin and his sister evelyn duvall their late father tom was is in the water ski hall of fame also but they are our grand marshals have first time ever we've had an honorary chair and actually it's a couple and it's psy and vicki ford that have done so much for the city the arts center the theater just lots of things and a lot of things for manitowo days also and then our volunteers of the year are pat and carol macfarlane and they will be in the parade and so on too and then we have a button winner uh wesley kappasac uh fifth grader at lake harris and um we surprised him last thursday with with an award and so on and his class gets a pizza party uh which will be coming up i think next week and so on but anyway he was the hero of class but he was very surprised we have like i mentioned 33 events i believe that go on through [Music] you know from the time of the marketfest on the 16th finishing up on the 4th of july with fireworks the flyover and music in the park and and so on and so we um you know we we're going to have a good man in two days one thing we've accomplished this year and we appreciate the finance department here at city hall typically when people would register for the parade they'd get a sheet of paper in the last few years they could download it from the from the website fill it out mail it in with a check the checks got turned into the city the city puts it in an escrow account for us and pay our bills and so on this year we kind of bit the bullet and have parade registration online and have it so that people can pay their fees with a credit card that goes into north star bank and then the white bear lake city finance department can get the money then and and so on so we are it's a big deal to be able to do that and it's going to be more important as yours come because people people live and die with a great with a credit card so and we also have it so people can be a sponsor or make a donation to mandatory days with the same same setup and so on so we're very thankful to the to the city and the finance department for allowing us to do that and so on and we have just a lot of things we have a distribution day coming up the 3rd of june which i think there's 39 grocery bags they'll have eight to ten sets of of posters and table tents and different things in it each business there's eight or ten businesses per bag and volunteers take those bags and go to each of those businesses and give them the posters and this year we're putting in a manitoba button also for each business and so on so it will wrap up with fireworks on the 4th of july we appreciate very much the city's support police department fire department public works and all the things that you people do to help help this celebration happen we're looking forward to a good year and even a better year next year we know that many people have covered fatigue and they're short of people and short of money so they're not in the parade this year and so on but we're still going to have a great parade we've got i think four bands plus uh the white bear drum line and then the drum line from minneapolis that comes over and so on so we're going to have lots of stuff going on with the parade channel 19 records it and and so on so you can watch it over and over and over again on channel 19 but yeah we appreciate them also there's so many people in the community and surrounding areas that help out with manitoba days and we're just we're just thankful for everybody thank you to the city council for your support and and the city staff too we appreciate that so any questions for any you can ask paul but all right well thank you so much for your support well we'll look to see many of you um in the parade and uh throughout the the time of manito days so thank you very much. [00:13:30] **Paul Carlson:** Thank you mr white sure invite you guys we have a meeting thursday night up at the second floor of getty building at 6 30 and then for the next every uh friday morning here nine o'clock in the morning just to you know come and see what we all do um this is a big deal to me i've been part of it for 25 years i grew up seeing this parade when i was a kid and i don't want to see it go away and we need all of us to be part of it in one form shape or another so i just wanted to invite you all come to the meetings come you know see what we got to offer see what you can do to help and to be part of it um i just want to say also like he says thank you for being behind the scenes and encouraging us to keep it going thank you all right. [00:14:15] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Thank you well i already jumped the gun on the resolution so you have the money and resources you need but is there anyone else that wants to present on this matter before we before we move on well then i'll just extend one more heartfelt thanks for for to all of you and all the volunteers that make manitoba as a marketfest possible i'm looking forward to it very much this year so thank you again all right moving on to item 5b the 2021 financial audit presentation and resolution accepting the audit report ms kinswater. [00:14:45] **Ms. Kinswater:** Good evening mr mayor members of the council today we have brad faltesek with the accounting firm of abdo with us abdo finished our annual audit in march and so now we've got the final financial statements um mr faltesek has a presentation that he will give on the information. [00:15:05] **Brad Faltesek:** Thank you harper milk honorable mayor council members i know there this is a hockey town and there is a game on tonight so i will not try i will not be accepting questions tonight all right so um so the first slide we have or the second or who's controlling it but um i'll go through the auditor's opinion our responsibility uh general fund results other government governmental fund results enterprise funds and then at the end we do have some comparisons with your city to other cities of similar size as well as other cities in in the county so we'll go through some of those comparisons just to kind of see where you where you sit so next slide is our the results of our audit we issue when you have an audit performed you're looking for an auditor's opinion and that's what we issue that's our role in the our responsibility is giving an opinion on the financial statements um so to go about that we look at your controls we look at how things are processed we'll focus our audit on in our tests on high risk areas high dollar amounts those types of things look at confirm amounts that the state has sent you make sure those are getting deposited where they should be deposited county tax settlements assessments those types of things making sure they're getting in the right spot so we'll look through all that stuff and um we then we issue we issue an opinion on the material or that the financial statements are materially accurate in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles so we are issuing an unmodified or what we call a clean opinion on their financials so that's the opinion you're looking for the state audit requires us to go through um a series of checklist seven to be exact on different state statutes that they want us to test as part of our financial statement audit and then we issue the minnesotan compliance letter and that is included in your other reports um package i believe you received three um three or four different um things in your packet related to this this was in the other report so we go through those checklists and if there's any lien compliance there's different state statutes they um any non-compliance we would report those in the the compliance letter we are reporting no non-compliance with those without those requirements this year either the last report that's in the other reports is the report on internal control and this is required for governmental or audits that are performed under governmental auditing standards and so this takes a look at your internal control and if there's any high or significant deficiencies in internal control as far as how um transactions are processed so we'll look at um how payments are processed if one person's handling a transaction from beginning to end that would raise to a higher significance of error or fraud within the organization so we'd report those as a finding in the internal control letters stuff like that we have no we're not reporting any findings in that letter either so um good reports all around as far as the results of the audit now we'll get into the results so the next slide shows the general fund fund balances you do have a fund balance policy to have um fund balance uh no less than 35 to 50 percent of your next year's budget you finished this year just above that if you look at the chart the shaded area is your fund balance policy where that the 35 to 50 percent you can see in 2021 you um we're just above that minimum range that you have established the top line there is the budget so your budget increased from 21 to 2022 about six and a half percent so but you were still able to increase your fund balance to support that and stay within your or stay just above your your policy next slide is your budget to actual statement for your general fund so we have the original final budget and then compared to your actual last column there is your variance i know if you talk i believe you talked a lot about this and going through your rating calls and stuff or going through your bonding but revenues came in about 700 000 over what you budgeted much of that had to do with building permits actually 400 000 of that had to do with building permits of the year for the year another 350 000 had to do with intergovernmental revenue so revenues from the state and county and those types of things in federal government majority of that intergovernmental was a recording of the state contributes to the fire pension plan each year um and we recorded if the money doesn't flow through the city it come it goes right to the pension plan but it is something we need to record on the city book so you don't budget that it does again it doesn't flow through the city but we do record that 275 000 contribution as a revenue and an offsetting expense so it doesn't affect the bottom line it's just um kind of throws your budget actuals off a little bit overall your fund balance the third line from the bottom there increased 850 000 from last year finishing at 6.6 million dollars in reserves next slide so this slide shows your general fund revenues the major sources of revenues and your expenditures major to the larger departments kind of comparison over the last three years you can see your levy has increased slightly each year following your levy these are revenue these are collections so it's following your levy um the intergovernmental had a jump in 2020 related to the cares act or cares funding that came in that year was recognized all your your charges for service services have stayed pretty flat and other they just kind of catch all for everything else that you know jennifer collects expenditures on the right hand side there general government public safety public works park and rec and then other public safety had to jump this year again because we recorded that 275 000 fire contribution or payment out then to the pension plan and then in the other category um there was a jump there in 2020 also related to the cares dollars coming in and this transferring those out to other funds next slide these are your special revenue funds so the special revenue funds are funds that are set aside that have either a restricted source by a third party or committed revenue source by council so um a resolution where council is saying that this revenue is specific for this purpose so that would um or a third party would be saying you're collecting this revenue for a specific purpose so that would qualify for a special revenue fund so the first one listed the american rescue plan fund that is a new that was a new fund this year that's where you're um keeping the 1.4 million dollars that you received that's who we received the 1.4 million dollars received from the rescue plan dollars this year it doesn't have a fund balance these are fund balances that is a expenditure driven grant so the revenue is not recognized until um expenditures are incurred so you're not seeing a fund balance there that that negative 26.79 deficit fund balance is related to deficit market value adjustments with your investments this year so you'll see if you look through the financials you'll see the interest earnings in your industrial funds is a negative amount because of the market value adjustments and we're seeing that across the board with all cities so nothing unusual there other funds there sports center or the armory had almost a break even from previous year 3 600 decrease in fund balance 50 000 of the arpa or the rescue plan dollars were put into that fund to support that fund so that what allow that to stay at a positive fund balance the sports center um increased fund balance a hundred five thousand dollars over last year the sportscenter fund received sixty thousand dollars recognized as um from that rescue plan dollars as well as as well as a new lease for the hockey association so that helped increase that fund balance in this sports center economic belt economic development fund had a 150 000 decrease in that that's where a lot of the the fees that were waived for colvid over uh financed out of the economic development fund next slide your capital project funds so the chart there shows your uh fund balance resources committed assigned fund balances so um but then the chart the um amounts above in the in the lines those are your different project funds you can see there's just over 4 million dollars in your construction fund which is a 300 000 decrease from prior year but that's that's just based on the projects you have going on so you're you're using that money for those projects the hra tax increment pool had an increase in fund balance and fund balance this year that's likely when that tif district is decertified likely have to pay some of that back to the county um you will get a portion of that back though with excess increment um when you pay it more that will get distributed amongst all entities excess increment i'm not going to go into excel shelly's here for us i could talk about next segment um comedian reinvestment fund had 276 thousand dollar decrease those were just transfers out to other funds to support other funds within the city so uh next slide is your debt service funds so you have eight bonds governmental bonds outstanding this year you're gonna issue another one tonight but this is these are the eight you have outstanding as of 12 31. um what we look for is here is make sure you have enough you have cash resources to pay the debt service requirements on these on these funds and as you can see none of these are going into a deficit so these are supported either through tax increment um tax levy or special assessments then at the bottom chart shows your principal and interest payments over the next 10 years so have about 1.6 to 1.2 to 1.6 debt service requirements related to these bonds outstanding as of last year next slide is your water fund so with the enterprise funds the rest of the funds out here are enterprise funds we'll we typically look at just the cash flow and cash activities operating activities the top chart in each one of these is going to be your operating receipts compared to operating disbursements plus any debt service requirements so what we want to see is that you are generating enough operating receipts to support both your just operating disbursements plus your debt service requirements so the water fund here you can see in 2021 a jump so the darker orange line there uh the receipts you can see that had jumped from 2020 um that is this is the first year of collecting the infrastructure fee so that's where that jump comes in 2020 uh the expenditures had a jump in 2020 but in 2021 you're more in line with what you were what you were spending in 18 and 19. so we had some additional maintenance things that were expensed in 2020. you can see that sliver of a black line on top of there that's your debt service payments there were some interest payments on due on one of the bonds this past year so you'll see that grow as principal and interest starts becoming due in 2022 the chart below shows your cash balance um so you can see back in 2018 he had 170 000 cash balance in the water fund and since then it has grown um to um in 2021 you have 140 1 million 1.5 million of unrestricted cash you have about six hundred thousand dollars that's the top yellow piece of unspent bond proceeds so that will be used to finish the project that was started in 2021 next is your sewer fund super fund you can see that top chart there is no um debt service requirements in the sewer fund your operating receipts have been beating your operating disbursement so sewer fund is doing well and you can see your cash balance again back in 2018 both water and superfund were had very low cash balances and since then by looking at your rates and stuff you have been able to increase those the black line that we have in here and it was on the previous chart as well that's the what we as as auditors just recommend you have as a minimum reserve for your operations so there's there's not a state statute or anything really that's just something we put in there but um you can see the uh that black line comes from 50 of your operating dis operating disbursements plus 100 of your debt service requirements for the following year that's where we come up with that number so you can see your your sewer fund has has met that minimum amount for this year this past year [Applause] next one is your refuse fund again the refugee fund refuse fund had a good year 2020 year probably 21 the best year the last four presented here as far as receipts over disbursements cash balances also you can see an increase in 2021 up to almost where that that minimum reserve would be that we'd recommend ambulance fund receipts disbursements pretty much break even um within the ambulance fund your cash since 2000 um in 18 you had deficit cash in in the fund in 2019 you did generate um 300 000 and then have sustained that ever since then licensed bureau fund so um you can see in 2000 you can see your cash balance has stayed pretty steady 176 018 184 000 um or 209 000 i'm sorry in 2021 so have increased slightly 2019 you this fund once was able to transfer out a significant amount of money to other funds um 2019 you transferred out 150 000 last year you transferred or 2020 you transferred 75 000 and this past year you haven't you didn't transfer anything out so um that's partly the reason you're keeping that cash balance where where it is right now but and then you also this past year transferred or you this fund recognized fifty thousand dollars of the rescue plan dollars too so um this fund isn't doing as well as it used to uh the next slide pioneer manor fund so with the debt service um in here on that top chart the receipts are pretty much break even with uh disbursements and the debt service requirements and you can see that falls in line with the cash balance it stayed tested pretty consistent at that three hundred thousand dollar mark over the last um four years presented internal service funds this is the the enter your insurance fund and employment expense fund so these are just supporting other departments throughout the city these two funds charge other city departments for the services um you can see um stay pretty consistent you have healthy cash in here five and a half million dollars of cash in here and you can see where have the reserve requirement there which is fifty percent of your your disbursements the next slide is your total cash and investments in the city so back in nineteen you had thirty four thousand dollars cash investments and now you have forty three thousand so you can see where those funds are sitting to the um the dark yellow majority of funds are sitting in capital reserves um for capital projects and then you can see your general fund has increased slightly over the years but the other ones have stayed pretty consistent from as far as where the cash is sitting by type then we get into the ratios and comparisons with your city and other cities so your peer groups we have in here uh the dark orange is class two cities which are cities across the state of twenty thousand to a hundred thousand population um the yellow is the cities in other cities in ramsey county and the greenish color is cities of populations of 20 to 30 thousand so we broke that down into something similar to yours throughout the state so we have a number of different comparisons in here the first slide here is on taxes your tax rate is that for 2021 was at 22.2 percent you can see your peers on the chart so the black line in each one of these charts is the city of white bear you can see your peers are quite a bit higher um cities of 20 to 30 thousand population are at that 45 tax rate you're at the 22 percent so almost you're almost half of what other cities or similar sites are throughout the state of minnesota in other cities in ramsey about 11 lower as far as tax rate so quite a bit lower tax rate than others similar communities of similar size taxes per capita same story there other cities of 20 to 30 almost 600 per resident you're at 323 so 280 280 per resident less intact in as far as what they're paying in taxes so both categories much lower than others other cities of summer size the next slide debt we're looking at long-term debt per capita and debt service as a percent so you have increa you have issued bonds over the last few years you can see how your your line has increased as far as your long-term debt per capita it's increasing however it's still less than um your peers you can see your again the 20 to 30 population cities are up with that 1400 dollar per resident and you're at eight hundred eight hundred dollars so five hundred dollars per resident less as far as debt per capita debt uh service expenditures as a percent of current expenditures so this you're right you're pretty much right in line with with others in this category so um pretty similar i guess there next slide expenditures so the just to get a look at current expenditures and capital expenditures here we yours is the black a bar but um again current expenditures these would be your general operating type expenditures just day-to-day expenditures taking out debt taking out capital um you're spending 2021 about 560 570 per resident where um others are spending 20 to 30 is 770 75 per resident so again just on the day-to-day operating type expenditures quite a bit less as well and then capital is going to fluctuate from year to year um it's kind of interesting to see what others are doing there so no real no real analysis there other than seeing what others are doing and that is what i have for the presentation overall i think the city had a had a good year financially so certainly will take any questions. [00:30:15] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** Council any questions [Music]. [00:30:20] **Councilmember Edberg:** six of them six so first an observation mr falcak have i've appreciated the charts that you provided and in previous years that's been provided to us in advance not necessarily in the audit but in supplemental or prior to our meetings and we've had a chance to so we received 192 pages of plain charts excuse me numbers and texts um for the financial statements yeah yeah some some pictures would be nice so just an encouragement okay take it as a request from one council member. [00:30:52] **Brad Faltesek:** sounds good. [00:30:54] **Councilmember Edberg:** two council members dan's going to be integrated fair enough [Laughter] fine so um on page 36 you note that um we account for our hra uh as a basically a department or a subdivision of city government we've had some very early discussions as we think about economic development and housing development in the community what are the triggers for saying now if you're going to do something you should think differently about how you track expenditures or report your hra function what how would we when would we want to be thinking about making any changes or can this remain in this format and in this part of the audit ad infinitum? [00:31:36] **Brad Faltesek:** it can remain in the infinite forever yep so for comparability purposes we can maintain it there and always look back and we don't have to worry about reclassifying in any serious way. [00:31:47] **Councilmember Edberg:** okay great thank you. [00:31:48] **Brad Faltesek:** unless something comes out where standard would say something different but currently no. [00:31:52] **Councilmember Edberg:** okay so on page 46 we note that we have debt limitations of about a hundred million and we're using about three million of that if i'm i'm rounding numbers all right what i'm trying to get at is as we look at trying to fund our infrastructure and maintain uh the quality of service that we have i don't know that we're growing a whole lot but we might grow some how should we be thinking about that difference between where we are at and at least what the state or others say we could be the 3 million to 100 million is a big jump how do we think about that? [00:32:32] **Brad Faltesek:** i think you need to think about it as far as where you want your tax levy because if you issue if you issue more debt you're going to have to if there's going to be a levy involved in that so where where do you want that tax levy to be and if you have you're going to issue debt you're going to have additional levies it's going to increase that tax levy so i think because you have so much room there flexibility there you do have some you can be issuing more debt it's just a matter of watching that tax living tax rates which going back to some of those charts there is some you are quite a bit lower than other communities in i've got similar size too so. [00:33:14] **Councilmember Edberg:** okay so we're not facing any legal or accounting issues that are constraints it's our question of judgment and prudence and how we pay for it right all right great thank you so on page 49 um it's about basically it's a city balance sheet okay okay and we have somewhere in the vicinity of 40 depending on the number 45 46 47 million dollars that we say is a is our asset mostly in infrastructure sewer and roads are a couple of the big ones okay all right there's no offsetting liability i'm not sure that straight-line accounting exactly pays is exactly the right way to think about how do you plan or how do you budget for maintenance i mean the the the statements are presented as net of depreciation and that's about it it doesn't you know we dug up pipes that are still uh lead and copper from 80 90 years ago in a couple of street reconstructions a couple years ago so we got some old stuff still out there sure what's do our financial statements give us any guidance on how we should reserve or plan for or think about reserving for a proper level of maintenance my fear is we have a lot of stuff most of it isn't visible yeah most of us we don't most of us don't even know what we own or what we have and i'm concerned that we under budget for repair and maintenance and i'm just trying to balance that what was what do our financial statements say does it give us any clues about how to think about maintenance? [00:34:45] **Brad Faltesek:** you can think about if you look at there's a schedule in the note disclosures that shows your gross your assets and then depreciation so you can take a look at okay and we used to have a a ratio in the presentation related to that it said um is are your assets 50 appreciated so some of those old ones if they're fully appreciated those would certainly so as that percentage gets lower or is however you look at it if it depends if it shows that more assets are fully depreciated or higher depreciation typically you would see more maintenance costs related to that so that be an indication if if you have a high percentage of depreciation that you are going to have more maintenance costs it's not a true indication though either it's it's a tricky one because assets were put on the books in 2003 um when caspia 34 came around so and if anything was if 20 years older or older than 20 years and that it was already fully appreciated a lot of that stuff didn't get on the books so um it's not a one-to-one either it wasn't required to be put on the books it would have been a nightmare to put some of that stuff on the books that was already fully appreciated and it's not affecting your financials anymore in any way either so. [00:36:02] **Councilmember Edberg:** right i mean we can't exactly leverage them we can't borrow against them right we can't sell them. [00:36:07] **Brad Faltesek:** you can't sell them yeah okay fine does anybody want to use sewer system right um okay got it thank you i appreciate that so um page 118 we have a discussion about unfunded liabilities and there's some interesting observations about our pension funds okay what's your assessment of do you know what i'm referring to? [00:36:30] **Brad Faltesek:** not necessarily i know pensions are a big deal um so if it's related to pair uh the public employees retirement association. [00:36:37] **Councilmember Edberg:** yeah it's a percentage of our of our unfunded liabilities that are covered and we are way better this year than we have historically been in terms of have i want to know how much of that is volatile versus how much is it can that of that can be secured or how much of it is true progress or is it just a vagary of the stock market? [00:36:58] **Brad Faltesek:** investments really well at pera last year it's which makes up which decreased that unfunded amount quite a bit um what it would have increased by a lot more however pair decreased their rate of return or their um from 7.5 to 6.5 so which would have increased your liability but the how well the investments did last year or the last period um helped out everybody are those ours or do we share those with everybody else who's covered by pera share them with everybody else and your percentage that gets allocated to the city of white bear is based on how much you pay in for that plan year so if you were if you played in less you'd get more less allocated to you it hasn't it has nothing really to do with the previous plan it's just whatever was in that plan year and out they allocated based on that percentage so the interpretations of the state and the state plan is better funded today than it has been that theoretically reduces our risk in needing to come up with cash to honor future pension obligations or health care to retirees or what's the better way of thinking about that? so you're you're paying as pay as you go basis um however it is an unfunded liability that the standards say needs to be allocated out to the member the contributing members um if you were to say we're no longer going to be a city we're going to just up and stop that your portion of the liability would be allocated to other members you wouldn't have to just you wouldn't have to come up with your unfunded whatever was allocated to you last year would just be allocated to the other members. [00:38:32] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** so would you ever have to pay off that unfunded liability? [00:38:35] **Brad Faltesek:** not in current state you won okay. [00:38:37] **Councilmember:** sorry interrupt i i just have a question in that lane because i'm curious i know nothing about pensions public pensions but i know a fair amount about the private pensions teamsters machinist pension fund and in that world if you sell your business if you if you withdraw from further contributions there is withdrawal liability you're saying it doesn't work like that in in with with regard to pera that's what i'm not following you on. [00:39:05] **Brad Faltesek:** yeah your unfunded liability would just be allocated to the other contributing members so there is no withdrawal liability then not from the city no okay. [00:39:15] **Councilmember:** what's you know what pera's current funding percentage is right now you said it went up last year? [00:39:20] **Brad Faltesek:** i do not okay um. [00:39:22] **Councilmember Edberg:** so several of the several places in the audit it notes that we've suffered investment losses is that purely on a mark to market basis or does that does it reflect actual losses in our in the value of our investment market okay the market turns around things go up our basic positions haven't changed they're just worth worth more if the market goes up got it thank you last question um so historically in your reports you've identified risks on tax collectibility in other words what percentage of our property taxes are do we levy but are unpaid uh and it's traditionally been a relatively low amount one two three percent somewhere in that vicinity i didn't i couldn't find that comparison maybe i didn't look in the right place have we seen with the with the challenges of the covet economy have we seen or other uh communities of our of our size nature um experienced an increase in uncollectibility because of financial stress in the economy or has that not been enough? [00:40:22] **Brad Faltesek:** i have not seen it great thank you very much yep any other questions. [00:40:27] **Councilmember Walsh:** Councilmember walsh thank you mr mayor i i don't know if this is for mr faltesek necessarily but it it it's you mentioned the cares act i was just going to ask about the cares act and maybe director kinsfatter can answer but we we handed out a lot of money it was unusual we're not used to doing that uh everybody in the country did every city in the country did just thinking as auditing now we don't we you know we we gave it to a lot of people we gave it to businesses so that's pretty quick that's pretty easy they what they did with it we didn't we didn't uh specify but we also gave some money to funds or to agents because it was it made sense you know they're already set up to give funds out i can't think of any examples but i remember human services organizations or things like that is there any kind of a check in on that from our perspective i'm just thinking ahead like we're going to be sitting here there's going to be some fraud or waste or abuse or something that happens with karzak funding and then we're going to be why did you you guys gave him 200 000 and he just looked the other way didn't worry about where that money went was it spent right so i'm not sure if we even can kind of do that but maybe it's informal so that's kind of my thought as you were going through the cares act funding. [00:41:45] **Brad Faltesek:** there are some compliance things that depending on the type of grant or what you gave out and who you gave it to there are some compliance things you would need to follow how they applied for it um maybe what they applied for and gave you at that point was enough sufficient um did you kind of depend on each grant and who it was given to wouldn't be the worst practice just to do a check in on that because i think most that money spent now or should have been. [00:42:15] **Ms. Kinswater:** if i may interject um there are specific there were specific regulations of which we could and could not use that for and we there was a pretty significant um reporting requirement through the state that we had to submit all that to that they they handled for the federal government so i'm confident that we did that correctly but we can certainly check in on it again. [00:42:35] **Councilmember Walsh:** yeah i think we did i think i just i'm just thinking of a couple of times we don't we donated we we gave money to for a specific purpose not have to go back and look at the notes and we used uh a a structure that was already in place because they could think they were used to handing out grants and things and then i think we probably said okay we did our thing we gave the money and was for this purpose but do we know that that money got out for that purpose and it's really not us it's the next level so thank you. [00:43:05] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** counsel any further questions thank you sir i appreciate it thank you all right bringing it back here to the council we have a resolution before us uh accepting the audit report and i would entertain a motion to approve that. [00:43:20] **Councilmember:** second. [00:43:21] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** i have a motion a second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor of uh the resolution accepting the audit report say aye. [00:43:28] **Council Members:** aye. [00:43:29] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** any opposed motion carries the resolution passes moving on to item sex public hearings we have nothing scheduled item seven unfinished business we have nothing scheduled which brings us to 8 a resolution awarding the sale of general obligation and improvement bonds to finance a portion of the 2022 street improvement project ms kinswater. [00:43:55] **Ms. Kinswater:** mr mayor members of the council you have received two memos over the last week the first memo that came out with the um packet was that'll be the first part of my little talk here that's explaining how our ratings call went with s p for as part of our bond process the second memo that was on the dice when you arrived today that was a summary of the actual bid opening for the bond sale today and i'll also be covering that but just to kind of go over all of this so that our residents watching and the people in the council chambers kind of understand our process the city council authorized the issuance of 3 million 25 000 general obligation bonds to fund the city's street improvement projects for 2022 at the april 12th council meeting since that time staff has been working with ellers to prepare for today's bond sale during this process s p global financial affirmed the city's bond rating at double a plus for this current issue and when they go back and do that they also then affirmed that double a plus rating for all outstanding bond issues so everything is covered at that double a plus the double a plus rating is one step below the top rating which is a triple a bond rating through that process s p they look at our annual financial reports they look at our long-range financial planning they look at our capital improvement plan they kind of go over our operations just to get a good understanding of where we are financially s p stated that their outlook for the city's financial status is stable these are strong rating these strong ratings are attributed to the city council's accomplishments in developing and implementing that long-range financial planning model that we use and for the policies that you've implemented in recent years as the report noted the city's local economy is experiencing significant residential and commercial development which is leading to improved market values the consecutive years of surplus operating results have also sustained very strong reserves and liquidity and the snp views those strong reserves as a credit strength even though their future debt plans are expected to kind of weaken their view of the city's debt profile s p considers the city's credit characteristics to correspond with that double a rating requirements and that's why they issued and affirmed that rating for us as they indicated that in their report and that was included in your packet that went out if we would try to increase to that aaa rating we would need to add tax capacity to the city and increase those fund reserves even higher than what we have to meet their characteristic levels for that aaa rating so as we proceeded into the bond sale for today at 10 a.m there was a bond bid opening four investment firms bid on the city's bond sale there was a variance of just under a half a percent between the top bid and the the lowest bid um the top three bids were very competitive with less than one tenth of a percent between those three so it was a good um showing for our bond sale the lowest bid came in from northland securities that's in minneapolis the true interest cost on the bid is 3.2177 percent this rate is just a tenth under the percent higher than um the financial projections that we um used when ellers were creating our pre um reports so our estimates were just a little bit short but given the changes in the market in the in recent weeks this is it's a good strong showing for that the market has increased 54 basis points which so it's like half a percent in the time when um in these last couple weeks between when we did the pre-sale in this so for ours just to be that little bit over is really good we didn't see that whole half a percent increase in the interest rates the bid of the lowest bid included a fifteen thousand dollar premium component when there's a premium component to the in the bid on debt the city can either choose to retain the original bond sale amount so that would have been the 3.25 million or we could reduce the bond issue by that premium so that we keep that true interest cost um closer to the bid amount staff chose to reduce the bond sale by that fifteen thousand dollars to make the new issue that you'd be approving tonight three million ten thousand this practice is consistent with how the bond issues have been handled in past years so this premium is less than what it has been in previous years last year i think it was about 190 000 but i think when when we look at that 15 000 being the premium you kind of see the market kind of stabilizing because the coupon rate and the interest rate in the market are relatively close when they're farther apart that's when you see that premium come into play the pre-sale report that was presented to the city council on april 12 estimated that the annual tax levy for the 15 years of the bond life would range between 199 000 to 203 000 over those 15 years based on today's bond sale information the actual tax levy will be between two hundred thousand and two hundred and five thousand so it's if we average it out it's about um one thousand one hundred dollars more a year just by us having that little bit higher interest rate for comparison purposes i looked back and looked at our interest rate that we've got on this and compared it to where our interest rates have been on previous bond issues and the true interest cost on this bond is less than the interest rate that was on the six the city's 2018 a issue we issued two bonds that year one the a was for improvement bonds and equipment certificates to repair the refrigeration unit at the sports center the second issue we did was a tax abatement bond to do the renovation of the sports center and that was even higher so this interest rate even though it's higher than we've had in the last couple years it's still below where we were in 2018 staff recommends the city council adopt the resolution awarding the sale of the general obligation bonds series 2022-a in the adjusted aggregate principal amount of three million ten thousand we do have shelly eldridge from ellers with us this evening if you have any questions about the bond sale in the market or anything that she can clarify too so i can answer any questions or we can have shelley come up and speak to great thank you. [00:50:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** council questions comments. [00:50:48] **Councilmember Edberg:** Councilmember at burke i'll just make one comment you give credit to the city council for enacting policies i think you've got it upside down i think our staff deserves credit for the work in creating the systems that we have to have to obtain and retain a double a plus is really impressive it's something that has not been always a part of our culture the tools that you're using give us greater information and predictive power we didn't do any of that we just were smart enough perhaps to follow your recommendations so kudos to the previous city managers to staff to all who are currently involved in making these systems work you guys could deserve the credit so thank you for that work. [00:51:30] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** it would entertain a motion to adopt the resolution awarding the sale of general obligation improvement bonds. [00:51:36] **Councilmember:** approval. [00:51:37] **Councilmember:** second. [00:51:38] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** i have a motion a second any further discussion seeing none all this in favor say aye. [00:51:44] **Council Members:** aye. [00:51:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** any opposed motion carries resolution passes moving on to item 8b resolution approving a request by baretown bar and grill for an amendment to a conditional use permit and a variance at 4875 highway 61 ms crosby. [00:52:05] **Ms. Crosby:** there we go the subject site 4875 highway 61 is located on the northwest corner of 7th street and highway 61. it is owned dcb which is diversified central business district the property is just about one acre in size and contains a four thousand square foot restaurant bar with 72 parking spaces and outdoor seating on the south side of the building in 2021 staff administratively approved the expansion of the outdoor seating area in order and in order to bring the permitted expansion into compliance the applicant is now requesting a conditional use permit amendment to expand the outdoor seating area and a four foot variance from the 10 foot hard surface setback from the railroad right away and with that conditional use permit amendment to modify condition number five no outside music shall be permitted as you can see from this 2013 aerial photo there used to be a curb cut and parallel parking oops a little uh little circles a little off um in the area where the patio expansion is now located north is to the left on this graphic staff supported the four-foot variants from the 10-foot hard surface setback because it is an existing condition with no known adverse impacts for the past at least 19 years also the improvement eliminates a curb cut that is uncomfortably close to a major intersection the cut the curb cut will actually be removed when the intersection is reconstructed in the near future in association with the north campus high school project the area to the north of the new patio is now has signs parking lot signage that says no parking because it is now used as a turnaround area should somebody drive into that parking lot and then find that there are no parking spaces available they need to be able to turn around and exit back out again even though a few parking stalls were lost with the expansion of the increased expansion of the outdoor seating by 34 seats the parking still meets code applicant has requested that the musicians be set up in the southeast corner of the patio pointing towards the building and staff recommended that the musicians be located in the northwest corner of the patio so that the sound faces highway 61 after discussing the location of the musicians and the speakers the commission decided to delete condition number six as they determined that the issue is was sufficiently addressed by condition number 10 that said the outdoor music shall not create a nuisance to the surrounding neighborhood as is evidenced by these aerial photos the proposal is a significant improvement to a long-standing neighborhood business staff had recommended approval of the conditional use permit and setback variants and with one change to the resolution the commission unanimously recommended approval as well thank you thank you ms crosby. [00:55:05] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** council any questions comments? [00:55:08] **Councilmember:** one clarification just i'm going back what was included in the letter from the resident saying how much you know we're approving one night of music so if they wanted to add a second or whatever day they'd have to come back here? [00:55:20] **Ms. Crosby:** that's correct. [00:55:22] **Councilmember:** that's all the clarification thank you. [00:55:24] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** yeah do i have a motion to accept the resolution pretty straightforward. [00:55:28] **Councilmember:** i'll move approval of the resolution. [00:55:30] **Councilmember:** second. [00:55:31] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** in a second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor say aye. [00:55:35] **Council Members:** aye. [00:55:36] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** any opposed uh the resolution carries and uh you have your conditional use permit moving on to item 8c resolution approving a request by christensen companies tommy carwash for a conditional use permit site plan review and three variances at 4061 highway 61 ms crosby. [00:55:58] **Ms. Crosby:** thank you yeah both on highway 61. thank you mayor and council members the subject site is located on the southwest corner of highway 61 and county road f the property is zoned b3 which is auto-oriented business and it lies within the shoreland overlay district the property is 1.3 acres in size and has a 24 foot wide access easement that runs north south through the property which is supposed to be in line with that eastern access opening there i don't know why all my graphics jump from planning commission to council sorry about that the site contains a repair shop a hertz rental car dealer a gas station and it hertz rental car station like a business i should say a gas station and a convenience store the applicant would like to demolish the site and construct an express car wash facility called tommy's consequently they are requesting a conditional use permit for car wash in the b3 auto oriented business district and i should say that this cup also includes site plan approval for development in the shoreland overlay district they're also requesting three variances which i'll address in turn the proposed layout eliminates the western access opening which simplifies the traffic flow and increases the green space on the site because of the access easement the site is bound to maintain the eastern curb line in its existing condition which on the very south side of the east property line is within the fir 15 foot hard surface setback required by the code this is about 30 lineal feet of curb which does not comply with the setback requirement and because of the easement staff support supported this variance the code also requires that stacking be provided to accommodate the number of vehicles that can be washed within a 30 minute period this particular facility is an express wash with newer technology that has the ability to service 100 cars every half hour based on other washes in similar sized or larger communities the applicant estimates that the peak demand will be an average of 18 vehicles every half hour the proposed design provides 21 pack stacking spaces given that the estimated demand is significantly less than the capacity of the equipment staff is confident that the cars will progress quickly through the wash and therefore supports this second variance again the existing infiltration basin is located in the northeast corner of the site and this basin will hopefully be oversized if possible to offset the impervious area variants the applicant has agreed to work with staff in exploring the possibility of increasing this basin to cut to accommodate heavier rainfall events the applicant has also agreed to both increase the number of trees and to plant nomo native prairie in the larger green spaces on the south and east sides of the site these trees will both help to uptake rainfall and to absorb carbon generated by idling vehicles the native ground cover will help to reduce the amount of irrigation required to keep the site looking lush and green during the summer months for these reasons staff supported the third variance the third impervious area variants the standard franchise architecture of beijing bright red has been replaced with mostly gray brick and gray fiber cement panels however the bright red accents do remain at the entrance and exit of the car wash tunnel overall the proposal is vast improvement over existing conditions not only in appearance but also in relation to compliance with current code requirements staff had recommended approval of the conditional use permit in three variances and the planning commission unanimously agreed as a reminder i would like to note that since one of these three variances was recognized after the public hearing notice went out the city council should open up the floor to the public in case anybody would like to speak thank you thank you ms crosby. [01:00:15] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** we will do that right now um and open up for for anyone uh who wishes to make a comment on that so i'll open up the public hearing at this time can you just please state your name and address for the record. [01:00:30] **Tanner Brandt:** yes good evening my name is tanner brandt with christensen companies 4609 33rd avenue south suite 400 fargo north dakota uh i'm here with christensen companies the developer we build these car washes pretty much all across the country um i guess just wanted to offer myself up for questions if you have any clarifications any questions you may need just let me know and i can i can help out thanks thank you. [01:01:05] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** i have one quick question for you yeah we obviously have some some water issues that are pending and and pressing and are coming down the horizon i know this would be a high a consumption of water this project is this business so you guys are aware of what's going on and you've kind of been put on notice for the potential for water restrictions in the future and you're going in eyes wide open with that. [01:01:25] **Tanner Brandt:** yep yep we have uh it has been mentioned we've talked about it um we are aware of you know what what's going on um we think we have a you know pretty uh you know we have the reclamation system that we use and we think we're pretty you know we use less water than if you were to wash your car in your driveway so we think we have a you know pretty good hold on that and um that's something that we could we could work through if that if it were something to happen. [01:01:50] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** so with the the reclaiming reclamation system can you just briefly tell me kind of how that works do you use it for the car wash is where is it going. [01:01:58] **Tanner Brandt:** yeah so uh every car that goes through we use 33 gallons to wash the car 10 of those gallons of water go into the reclamation system and get reused and put into the lower portion of the are used on the lower portions of the cars in the wash and then it goes through a reclamation tank oil sander interceptor and then multiple tanks to you know go through and reclaim and then those 10 gallons you know for every wash about 30 of the water gets reused and then the rest all of that water goes into the sanitary sewer thank you. [01:02:35] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** is anyone else on the council of questions councilmember jones. [01:02:40] **Councilmember Jones:** thank you mr thank you uh mr brandn christian for being here to represent this it's always appreciated when someone's asking for a variance that they are here so i appreciate that uh addressing another note from resident potential noise i lived in that backyard for 20 years on the other side just for other council members i don't think noise is an issue it was addressed at the planning commission doors are closed most of the time i get that they may not i'll be all the time but as far as the loudspeakers from the dealerships and the car wash already happening at holiday there's a lot of noise and there is a buffer again that stated in 61. my uh so that's my biggest two things i just wish that i'd be curious if between here you've got ceputo dumping millions of gallons of clean water millions next door i'm going to look at staff and say look at you and look at volamo and say it's going straight into goose lake and down the mississippi river millions of gallons of water they're right next door using a perfect source of gray water i'm like can we think someday about doing that and so it's like i don't know i wish i could almost put something into this agreement that says we would ask a question or we was you know i don't know it's kind of too late to this you can still approve but i'm like i don't i mean do you guys really care where your plumbing comes from where your water comes from would a gray water and it's it's it's better than gray trust me on that because it's going straight in to goose lake which is right there. [01:04:15] **Tanner Brandt:** yeah i guess i don't know enough about kind of the whole situation i understood to answer that obviously i'm not picking on you although that would be fine but no [Laughter] but it's just it just seems like an opportunity to at least i don't want to hold up anything not at all want this to proceed it's a great uh reinvestment in the corner obviously it just i don't i guess as staff is there anything i can do to say ask the question because it's not built yet and i don't want it to cost any more money or. [01:04:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** mr mayor i'll put mr mayor and he can take it from there well i mean it's an interesting concept i don't have anywhere near enough yeah i don't know knowledge i don't think anybody has the technical knowledge you know even if that's feasible whether or not the water is clean enough to then support this business here's what here's what i think about that i i get it there's an opportunity there i assume your clients would if they had the opportunity to buy efficient water at a cheaper price from their neighbor and ceputo was willing to sell it you guys would entertain that at some point if that were all possible from a technical standpoint so that's about as far as i'm going to go hey look into that if it's possible save us some water all right but beyond that i don't know what else you can do away is a means of hitting up ceputo by the way it was true and that building's been doing business like that for no i think you're you're you're asking the right questions and we're in there we're more you know you got your finger on it how do we how do we become more efficient with water i mean from my standpoint i don't know what we can do about that right now other than to cross our fingers and see what what technological advances come in the future so i have said a silly question how do you get a hundred cars cleaned in 30 minutes how does that i mean i'm just thinking they're driving through at 50 miles an hour. [01:06:05] **Tanner Brandt:** yeah right yeah so we've got the three lanes you know first lane closest to the building has a cashier the second lane has a credit card you know reader and then the third lane is tommy club so it's a membership you pay monthly fee for so those are just as you pull up there's a license plate reader reads your license plate lets you right through so you can just you know those are constantly flowing through and so there's never a slow down for taking payment or you know and then as you come around the corner and get into the wash you can have five cars on the convey it's a conveyor belt system instead of that old you know the older chain and roller it's a conveyor belt that basically pulls the car through so you can step you know i mean 200 cars an hour is the top that we can we can do you know without speeding up the conveyor belts but if you have the car stacked you know back to back we don't see that very often but if they're stacked back-to-back and just have a consistent flow of it then that's you know it takes about two two and a half minutes to wash a car so they uh move pretty quickly. [01:07:08] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** is it a touchless washer does it use the rollers? [01:07:11] **Tanner Brandt:** it uses the yeah microfiber um yeah rollers basically just curious council any other questions i want to know we actually have those a little do we have a matte washer out right outside of the you know in the parking or in the vacuum area where you put your mat washer through or mat through and pulls go pulls it through and cleans it so i've got an option for that too that was a useful question yeah there you go the only thing left to ask is when are you open i guess that starts with us. [01:07:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** exactly as soon as we can let's call the question i'd entertain a motion to adopt the resolution. [01:07:51] **Councilmember:** approval. [01:07:52] **Councilmember:** second. [01:07:53] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** second further discussion seeing none all those in favor say aye. [01:07:58] **Council Members:** aye. [01:07:59] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** all right item a d resolution approving recommendations and authorizing the city manager invite participants for county road e project team an advisory group uh michimic is this. [01:08:12] **Lindsey Michmick:** yes so apparently it's my first rodeo all right um mayor members of council tonight we're here just briefly to um bring you along on the next step of our county road e planning process and that's appointing people to our project team and parameters for our citizen advisory group there will be two advisory groups that advise this process to make sure there's ample community input to the process one of those is a project team comprised of up to 20 members this is between the three partner cities which in the three partner cities of venice and heights gem lake and of course white bear lake those 20 members include appointees by the city as well as county state metropolitan council and various community leaders the city has the discussion to directly appoint three members to to the project team as well as collaborate with the other team members on the other project team members in addition to that there will be a citizen advisory group the citizen advisory group is really meant to broaden the perspective and input that is given into the process as well as act as ambassadors to the community getting input and really getting people to engage in the process and come to the the community meetings the purpose of the citizen advisory group is to ensure adverse representation there will be up to 20 community members again the city has the discretion or each city in the process project has the discretion to appoint five members and then additional five members will be appointed appointed in collaboration with the project partners we're here tonight to present recommendations for the appointees for the project team staff would recommend that council members edberg council member joan planning commissioner and planning commissioner ahmanson be appointed to the three person as the three-person city as well as in in collaboration for those seats at large jan johnson who is a county road e business owner in addition to those specific recommendations staff is asking the council to authorize the city manager to recruit and appoint members to the citizen advisory group as detailed on this slide including a resident each from ward 4 and ward 5 identified with input from the respective council members for those words an employee of a white bear lake county road e-business a owner or manager for a white bear lake county road e-business and a representative of a county road e affordable housing development or one in the proximity of county roadie staff's recommendation is that council adopt the resolution included in your packet which allows which appoints the four members to the county roade project team and authorizes the city manager to recruit and invite members to participate in the advisory group based on the parameters listed therein thank you. [01:11:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** council any questions from michimic? seems pretty straightforward we've got a good game plan and i understand that those recommendations that staff are making um for the council members um planning commission member been asked in advance and everybody's willing and able to serve which makes sense uh given the location uh with that i'd entertain a motion to approve the resolution. [01:12:15] **Councilmember:** so moved. [01:12:17] **Councilmember:** i have a motion do i have a second motion a second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor say aye. [01:12:24] **Council Members:** aye. [01:12:25] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** any opposed motion carries the resolution passes moving on to item nine discussion we have nothing scheduled which brings us to item 10 communications from the city manager ms crawford. [01:12:38] **City Manager Lindy Crawford:** thank you mayor um in the audience tonight we have jason lindahl our new community development director so just wanted to introduce him he's been here this is now start of week two already diving in so welcome to jason we had our spring clean up day last saturday down at public works it was i'm told the busiest that we have seen it very very steady so that was that was a wonderful event touch a truck is this thursday at podman park from five to seven pm just a reminder if you're going to come to try and bring a donation to fill the food shelf truck let's see here i passed out the new tracks 10 year anniversary open house which is may 23rd it's a it's an open house a free event they are asking for an rsvp should you be interested but you can just show up that day as well and then on may 21st mayor lewis met councilmember hughes and i will be at fire operations 101 in maplewood with a handful of other city uh representatives where we'll we'll they'll take us through cpr vehicle extrication and uh and a live fire training so you were asked if you wanted to attend so yeah can we volunteer a council member to be extricated yeah there you go so well i'm sure there will be documentation that we can share with with all of you for for videos yeah and that's all i have thank you. [01:14:15] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** uh mr linda on behalf of the council welcome to white bear and we look forward to working with you and to see all the good work ahead of us hey welcome very much yup great to be here uh mr mayor if you if i have an update if you if it's appropriate at this time from the uh purple line corridor management committee yes please don't be the appropriate time it's been in the newspaper and that's fine but i thought just an official update to my colleagues in the council. [01:14:45] **Councilmember Walsh:** so um reconstituted purple line corridor management committee they've been a committee before this is kind of a reconstituted one we had our first meeting on april 29th and and uh i'll just say i was a little surprised pleasantly surprised by uh the reception of the group and i think it's an advisory group to the met council essentially on the project so we got a little taste in advance we're looking at the packet with kind of where they were thinking they asked me to present kind of the resolution basically it's like what's what's the history behind it uh how did you come to this so i gave a little five minute talk on kind of i hope i characterized it well um just kind of our discussion and the some of the ups and downs of it and then the i you know there was good discussion and bad discussion i think i i tried to characterize the good discussion i'll just briefly but i though i thought the best discussion we had as a council on us a city was really just about the future of the city and you know do we do we you know do we risk becoming isolated without without uh transit coming to our area i think that was the the main point i think for having the project in whitebear lake versus you know willing to take that risk to protect uh preserve whatever the word is the small the character of the town so i think that was the the best part of the debate i tried to try to characterize that um the they moved from there to a discussion of of opportunities or where we're headed and there was kind of an interesting presentation from staff on pros and cons of of kind of option one which is to carry on with rush line or purple line into white bear lake as planned and the staff went through i thought a pretty interesting and well done uh kind of a pro and con it comes with some of the questions i've been asking like how do you how do you work with a project with a city that doesn't want to cooperate and i've been kind of asking okay we took a vote on a resolution but you know if they if they choose it was not a binding resolution as we know it was just a resolution if they choose to say thanks for your resolution we still want to break the line up here we're going to be up there next tuesday please have your city engineer and staff out there because we're going to talk about the curb cut or the property or a variance or you know that just gets weird or awkward and so they they went through that as a kind of a pro to that approach and ultimately said that would cost more time for the project and more money for the project so it's a very good presentation i think from the met council staff on the project which led to a discussion of you know options one option is to continue as planned one option is to reroute and a couple of different presentations they put forward now they have had very little time as a staff on the project to really get into too much uh planning on the routes but they did some good work so stopping at maplewood mall was an option and then running feeder buses into wiper lake to pick people up and get them down there to take advantage of it and then also a route because our resolution was very specific you know don't encroach on white bear lake at all and i hope i didn't get out of line i don't think i did saying that because the other option was to go through white bear lake essentially to the berkeley road stop as planned which in order to get to berkeley road which is in vanna's sites i think you do have the right through berkeley road up to county road e which is that was the vadness stop right but berkeley is in wiper well berkeley isn't whitebeard okay so so that this other route was like well if we weren't going to stick to the letter of the resolution and no white bear lake at all then that would have worked but i i voiced support for that and i hope i didn't overstep but i think part of what's going to happen in the future is representing the city on this corridor management committee getting feedback from you all and from the community on the future of this project um so another route was berkeley and then up to vadness county road e across to 35e and then down around 694 or willow lane they started workshopping it right there and then and then they had to stop because there's a lot of engineering that's got to get done so people in other parts of the city bottom bottom line um we meet again in june to vote to suspend the locally preferred alternative route so that's the next action item if this if this advisory group does that looks like they're going to and then after that that gives them kind of the the green light to start planning uh new options to the route the other thing i did offer on the discussion was you know a lot of people have told me in this process maybe you guys too that they should stop at a maplewood mall and run run buses up to wipe but like to pick people up and that's essentially what they're planning to do so i i voiced support for that concept because i have heard that from lots of people uh there'd be fewer buses they'd be well i don't think they'd be smaller because i think as we were headed you think they'd be smaller okay that's what they said so um anyway that's the future i'll i'll continue representing um well that's i think a lot of it's up in the air honestly i think this a lot of it has to yet to be planned routes you know for these feeder buses size all that route how many times a day i think that's all up for design and redoing after we uh suspend the locally preferred alternative route so um i feel like they're listing uh the the the group on in april 29th was listening it feels like the met council is listening a very good conversation with the met council chair um and i voiced that that i feel listened to so that's my little report. [01:21:45] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** oh thanks bill i appreciate the report i just i would just add that you know before we speculate too much on the who what and when of what would be changes it's as i understand it right now it's just we're encouraged that the met council is actually responsive to us listening listening to a community that says they don't want it i remain steadfast in my opposition to the project and you know i look forward to continuing to work with the met council to to amend it in a way that makes us happy and makes those other communities that may want it happy as well so it's just that we're going along there's other key people involved in this commissioner reinhardt very much involved in this discussion and decision and uh our met council rep suvento also very much involved so very good thank you for that report i don't think we have anything else on the agenda so with that i'd entertain a motion to adjourn. [01:22:30] **Councilmember:** so moved. [01:22:31] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** all those in favor say aye. [01:22:33] **Council Members:** aye. [01:22:34] **Mayor Dan Kealey:** adjourned mr mary