(TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECESS) >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7. >> [OFF MICROPHONE] >> WE GOT YOU. >>DENNIS ROGERO: [OFF MICROPHONE] >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A SMALL WELCOME SCREEN AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. WE GOT IT, SIR. WE HAVE IT. YES SIR. >>DENNIS ROGERO: OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF, JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK REFRESH OF LAST YEAR'S PIPES ISSUE. THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF COURSE AS YOU WILL RECALL APPROVED WHAT WE STILL THINK IS AERY LL CRAFTED INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, AND YOU WILL ALSO RECALL THAT IT WAS PLANNED TO BE IMPLEMENTED VIA THE FUNDING SOURCES YOU SEE HERE. MORE PLANNED DEBT ISSUANCES THROUGH 2024, PLANNED USE OF FUND BALANCE, AND CORRESPONDING MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE. THAT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR. WHEN THAT RATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS DONE AS YOU CAN SEE TO ENHANCE THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THAT PROGRAM. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THE MAYOR WANTED TO MAKE SURE, COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE SURE TH TE THERE YEARS FROM NOW AS WE COMPLETE THE PLANNED PROJECT. THE INITIAL DEBT YOU WILL RECALL WAS $360 MILLION AND IT WAS BASED ON THAT PIPES PROGRAM. THAT'S WHY WE DID IT. IT WAS SIZED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CURRENTS ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT AT THE TIME, THE LOW INTEREST RATE. IT CAPTURED SAVINGS BY REFINANCING EXISTING DEBT. IT SAID STRONG DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES AND WAS PLANNED TO RESULT IN THE BUILD-UP OF AND EVENTUAL REDUCTION OF SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCE TOTALS. ALL OF THESE COMBINED LED TO THOSE VERY HIGH CREDIT RATINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AS NOW THE CITY WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM REMAINS ONE OF ONLY TWO SYSTEMS IN FLORIDA WITH THE HIGHEST RATING OF EACH CREDIT AGENCY. OF COURSE I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY MUCH OF THAT CREDIT ALSO BELONGS TO THE WORLD CLASS TEAMS WE HAVE GOT RUNNING THOSE SYSTEMS. MOVING ONTO FUND BALANCE, FIRST, OF COURSE, WE APPRECIATE CITY COUNCIL'S CONTINUING EMPHASIS ON STRONG FUND BALANCES ACROSS OUR CITY'S FUND STRUCTURE. THE WATER DEPARTMENT'S FUND BALANCE WAS STRONG PRIOR TO THE PIPES DEBT AND THAT WAS BY DESIGN FOR THE REASONS YOU SEE HERE. THE CITY'S EXPERIENCE WITH THE GREAT RECESSION, THE DROUGHT THAT PRETTY MUCH COINCIDED WITH THAT PERIOD, AND THE CONTINUED DETERIORATION OF PIPELINES, AGAIN ONE OF THE REASONS WE STARTED PIPES PROGRAMS IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO TY STARTED OUT S. AND AFTER THE PIPES DEBT ISSUANCES, IT REMAINED STRONG. AGAIN, THAT'S PLANNED. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON ITEM 8, PLANNED USE OF SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATED FUND BALANCE FOR THE PIPES PROJECT, ALL PART OF THE PLAN. AGAIN, THE EXCELLENT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES THAT HELPED AND SAVED US MONEY. OF COURSE WE WANT A FUND BALANCE FOR THE NONPAY-GO PROJECTS FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE PIPES PROJECT, NOT JUST PIPES. AND CHANGING FUTURE CONDITIONS. IT'S A REASONABLE AND SOUND PRACTICE TO KEEP FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT COME UP AND THOSE THINGS THAT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. WITH THE REBOUNDING ECONOMY WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW AND THE PRESSURE ON DESIGN FIRMS, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS, AND COST INCREASES, WE ARE ALREADY SEEING SIGNIFICANT COST CHANGES TO OUR PROJECT. YOU SEE HERE OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES OUR ANTICIPATED USE OF FUND BALANCE FOR THE PROJECTS. OVER HALF OF THE PROJECT FUNDING NEXT YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT LARGE SECTION IS GOING TO GO FOR PIPES PROJECT, NEARLY $70 MILLION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. YOU SEE THE GRAY IS THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE BLUE IS THE PAY-GO. I'LL GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. YOU CAN SEE WE STARTED LEADING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR, BUT AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO HIT IT FOR $70 MILLION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. MOVING ONTO POTENTIAL SAVINGS AND REFINANCING. WHEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PIPES DEBT OF NEARLY 360 MILLION-DOLLAR ALMOST A QUARTER OF THAT OR ABOUT $90 MILLION WAS TO REFINANCE EXISTING DEBT. ALL WITHOUT EXTENDING THAT DEBT. TAKING ADVANTAGE AGAIN OF THOSE VERY LOW RATES. DOING SO, YOU SEE HERE, CHIEF SAVINGS OF OVER $14 MILLION IN PRESENT VALUE. ADDITIONALLY, AND EVEN BIGGER, WHILE WE ISSUED THAT DEBT, WE RECEIVED ALMOST $440 MILLION IN CASH FOR WHAT THEY CALL A PREMIUM OF $79 MILLION. WHY DID WE GET THE PREMIUM? VERY STRONG INTEREST IN OUR BOND. STRONG DEMAND, BASED ON THAT BEING A SECURED INVESTMENT, TIED TO THAT MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE. IT GAVE THE MARKET, IT GAVE INVESTORS A GREAT DEAL OF SECURITY, AND IT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE ISSUANCE. ALL TOLD YOU SEE THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE. POSSIBLY $$93 MILLION IN FUNDING. I SAY ALL THIS, AND I REFRESH THIS TO SAY THAT THE SAVINGS AND REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES HAVE PRETTY MUCH BEEN ACCOMPLISHED RIGHT NOW. THERE MAY COME A TIME IN THE FUTURE WHERE REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES, AND OF COURSE WE WILL BRING THOSE TO COUNCIL. BUT NOT AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL MAY ALSO RECALL, WE UP-SIZED THE DEBT. AGAIN, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAT WERE IN THE MARKET. WE WENT BIG RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. DOING THIS DIDN'T ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FUND BALANCE OR THE NEED FOR PAYROLL PROJECTS. IT JUST FRONT LOADED OUR CASH POSITION SO WE COULD MAKE THESE EXPENDITURES OVER TIME. MOVING ONTO POTENTIAL REDUCTION OF RATES. GIVEN WHAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED TO DO OVER THE NEXT DECADE, THE ANTICIPATED REVENUES FROM THIS PLAN THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE LEAD ANTICIPATED EXPENSES AND COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM. MEET. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- BE IT FUND BALANCE OR PROJECTS. BESIDES CURRENT AND ANTICIPATED DEBT OBLIGATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE, REDUCING RATE NOW WE PROJECT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THOSE KEY FINANCIAL METRICS. FUND BALANCE, RESERVES, AND THE DEBT COVERAGE YOU SEE HERE. AND BY REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE WIL REDUCE OUR AVAILABLE FUNDING TO DO THOSE NEEDED PAYROLL PROJECTS. TAMPA STILL RETAINS ONE OF THE LOWEST WATER RATES OF OUR COMPARABLE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND FAR LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE. AS YOU SEE HERE. CITY OF TAMPA IN BOLD TOWARDS THE TOP. THE SURVEY AVERAGE AT THE BOTTOM. AND OUR COMPARABLE JURISDICTIONS. IN SUMMARY, THE PIPES PROGRAM REMAINS ON COURSE. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE STAY THE COURSE. BEING OF COURSE AS I MENTIONED A DECADES LONG NEARLY $3 BILLION PROGRAM IS GOING TO CHANGE OVER TIME AND IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BOTH GOOD AND BAD BY ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. THE OVERALL ECONOMY, INTEREST RATES, INFLATION, COST CHANGES, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND SOME ARE JUST WAITING AROUND THE CORNER. ALL I CAN TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN, OF COURSE, IS THAT CIRCUMSTANCES WILL CHANGE. OUR LEGAL PROFESSIONALS, OUR FINANCE PROFESSIONALS, SYSTEM PROFESSIONALS BOTH INSIDE THE CITY AND OUTSIDE THE CITY, WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THOSE THINGS, WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THE ECONOMY, WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THE CITY'S FUND. AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BRING TO COUNCIL A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE PLAN. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT. I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY THAT THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC VERY UPSET ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY WEREN'T INFORMED ABOUT IT, DESPITE WHATEVER COMMUNICATIONS THE CITY DID, THEY DIDN'T KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SURPRISED BY IT, SHOCKED BY IT. BUT THERE'S CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS A SLUSH FUND, AND YOU SHOWED ONE JUST NOW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU DIDN'T SHOW WAS, ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITIES IS THIS MONEY IS BEING USED TO OFFSET SOME OTHER PROJECTS, EITHER TOILET TO TAP WHICH THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT, OR THE EXISTING BUDGET OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND USING KIND OF LIKE THE LOTTERY MONEY. SO YOU GET THE LOTTERY MONEY AND YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SUPPORT EDUCATION BUT THEN YOU REDUCE THE EDUCATION BUDGET OR USE IT ON SOMETHING ELSE. SO I THINK WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING US TO DO IS TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT IF WE ARE GOI TO KEEP THE RATES WHERE THEY ARE, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO REDUCE THEM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS, BY THE WAY. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GET BOND COUNSEL TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THAT MARGIN IS. YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT RATING THE RESERVE FUNDS LIKE THE LAST ADMINISTRATION DID. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE PRUDENT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE KEEP, AND IF THERE'S A SAVINGS WITH THE REST OF THE WATER BUDGET, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT WITH THE PUBLIC, AND IN PARTICULAR THIS COUNCIL TOOK OUT THE TOILET-TAP PROJECT SO I AM HOPING THAT WE DON'T POINT OUT ANY ACCOUNTING THAT ANY MONEY FOR THIS IS USED ON THAT. ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? WITH THE ALLEGATION THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SAID THIS IS LIKE THE LOTTERY MONEY, WHERE WE ARE OFFSETTING SOME EXISTING WATER COSTS AND WE SHOULD THEREFORE OVERALL REDUCE THE WATER RATE, MAYBE NOT CONNECT TO THIS BOND, THESE BONDS? >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR. WE DISCUSSED SOME O THAT PREVIOUSLY. AGAIN, I WILL CAST IT IN PRE-PAPERS DEBT AND POST-PIPES DEBT. EVEN SETTING ASIDE THE PIPES DEBT AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE FUND BALANCE, BY DESIGN, WE HAVE STRONG FUND BALANCES, AND STRIFE TO HAVE STRONG FUND BALANCES IN ALL OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. FROM A WATER FUND PERSPECTIVE, FOR THE REASONS I HAVE GONE OVER, YOU WANT A STRONG FUND BALANCE. BUT THAT IS THE PART I WAS REFERENCING ABOUT NON-PIPES PROJECTS. IT WOULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO SPEND A PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR EXAMPLE ON THE PURE PROJECT, ON THE TAP PROJECT, ET CETERA. IF YOU FOR REY INTO THE PIPES FUNDING YOU WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE SOME PIPES PROJECTS, OR THE FUND BALANCE, AGAIN ADVERSELY IMPACTING THOSE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES, IF YOU WANTED TO FUND SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE PIPES PROGRAM WITH PIPES MONEY. SO WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FUND BALANCE, AND THAT'S BY DESIGN. >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING? WHEN WE WENT OUT TO TH COMMUNITY, WE TOLD THEM THAT WHAT YOU CALL PURE, I CALL TOILET TO TAP PROJECT WAS NOT INCLUDED, AND HAD THEY KNOWN THAT, THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PROTESTED IT TO A LARGER EXTENT. AND MY UNDERSTANDING BY TAKING IT OUT IS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A RATE CASE. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: IF THAT'S CHANGED THEN WE NOW HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE TOILET TO TAP I PROPOSE A RATE REDUCTION, BECAUSE A RATE INCREASE GIVES US TRANSPARENCY. WE JUST HEARD THE PROPOSAL, THAT'S BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF AND $7 BILLION INFORM THAT PROJECT, AND WHATEVER FORM IT TAKES, AND I THINK WE DON'T NEED IT AND SO IF WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT, I THINK THAT'S AN EXTRA LAYER THAT WE SHOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY, DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT? DO YOU WANT TO EXTRA TEN OR TWENTY DOLLARS A MONTH RATE INCREASE? OR IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE THAT MONEY CAN WE REDUCE THE RATE BY SELF DOLLARS? >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND IF I CAN CLARIFY, I THINK YOUR POINT WAS -- AND HE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU, BUT I THINK YOUR POINT WAS IWE ARE GOING TO USE D THE PIPES PROGRAM IT WILL REQUIRE A RATE STUDY. IT ABSOLUTELY WILL. IF YOU ARE GOING TO -- I'M SORRY, THE PURE PROGRAM, OR THE TOILET TO TAP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THE PIPES PROGRAM, OF THAT MAGNITUDE, 300 MILLION PROGRAM, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO A RATE STUDY, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A RATE INCREASE. IF THE MAYOR, IF COUNCIL -- AND I THINK THIS WAS YOUR OTHER POINT BUT I DON WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU -- WERE TO USE PAPERS FUNDING FOR A PURE PROGRAM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE PIPES PROJECT. YOU SIMPLY CAN'T DO A 300, $350 MILLION PROGRAM WITHOUT RAISING RATES AND DOING A RATE STUDY JUST AS YOU SAID. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO PUT A CAP ON IT, BESIDES THE OTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO ASK THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THESE PROJECTSTO RAISE THE RATES WE HAVE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND GET THEIR INPUT AGAIN RATE? >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR. >>ORLAO GES: NYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8. >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR, COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS. IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, I WOULD LE TO DISCUSS ITEMS BOTH 8 AND 9 AT THE SAME TIME. ITEM 8 IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU IN AND ITEM 9 IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE EBO PORTION OF THE PIPES PROGRAM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE HAVE NO OBJECTION, GENTLEMEN, 8 AND 9. ANY OBJECTION? YOU MAY PROCEED. >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU. THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE THE PRESENTATION I.T., THE PRESENTATION? WIPE WIN OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU BEFORE COUNCIL, WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU THE ISSUES OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US BY NOT ONLY YOUUT ALSO SOME OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED AS WELL IN TERMS OF THOSE BARRIERS, THOSE THINGS THAT WERE PRESENTING US -- PREVENTING US FROM REALIZING THE READY, WILLING AND ABLE CONTRACTORS OF NBEs, WSBLEs, AND WMBEs AS WELL. SO WHAT WE WILL DO TODAY IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THOSE THINGS THAT WE FOUND, TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS AS WELL AS PROVE S OF WHAT THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY -- HAVE ACTUALLY OCCURRED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO EBO IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN BET R BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC, SERVE THE CONTRACTORS AND SERVE YOU AS WELL. ONCE WE STARTED UNWRAPPING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH THERE WERE 22 OF THEM, WE ACKNOWLEDGED, WE REALIZED THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT FEAT TO CONCENTRATE ON ALL 22 AT ONE TIME. WE WROTE BROKE THEM UP IN GOALS THAT WE COULD OVERSEE, THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO, AN THOSE GOALS ARE IMPROVING COMMUNICATION INCREASING PARTICIPATION AND IMPROVING BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT. I'LL PROVIDE JUST AN UPDATE OF THOSE 22 ITEMS. WE CHOSE ABOUT HALF OF THEM AND WE WILL GO THROUGH WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHEN WE STARTED REALLY UNPACKING THOSE 11 RECOMMENDATIONS, 11 OUT OF THE 22, WE REALIZED THAT THEY WERE CATEGORIZED IN TWO AREAS. ONE WAS IN POLICY ISSUES, AND OTHER ONES WERE PROGRAMMATIC. SO MAKING SOME OF THESE CHANGES, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE. THE FIRST ONES THAT WAS PRESENT WAS TO INCREASE THE SHELTER MARKET PROGRAM FROM $300,000 TO $400,000. THAT IS IN THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE WORKING INTERNALLY AS WELL AS UNDER THE ADVICE OF LEGAL IN TERMS OF WHAT DO THOSE STEPS MANY TO TAKE TO PRESENT THE SECOND ONE WAS TO INCREASE THE PURCHASING THRESHOLDS FOR INFORMAL BIDS FROM $25,000 TO $100,000. THOSE THRESHOLDS HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1993. AND THE DROPPED POLIC FOR THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER LEGAL REVIEW. WE ARE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE THRESHOLDS FOR BIDS AND RFPs REQUIRING YOUR APPROVAL, COUNCIL, FROM $100,000 TO $150,000. AND THAT POLICY IS UNDER LEGAL REVIEW BEFORE BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK LAST WEEK, AND WE TALKED IN OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU, WAS TO INVESTIGATE CREATING A BONDING AND FINANCE PROGRAM FOR WMBEs AND FLBEs. JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE ARE ON THIS IS THAT THE STATE STATUTES ALREADY ALLOW FOR US TO WAIVE BONDS ON SHELTERED MARKETS FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS UP TO $200,000. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY DOING THAT. ANYTHING GREATER THAN THE $200 THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE TO GET THOSE CHANGES. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ARE ASKED TO LOOK AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S PROGRAM. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS DOING THAT AS WELL AS WE. HOWEVER, HOW WE ARE UNLIKE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE, AND WE ARE EXPLORING, IS THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFERS ESSENTIAL EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS TO THEIR CONTRACTORS ON BONDING AND INSURANCE AND% SURE ADVERTISE. SO WE ARE -- SURETYS. AS WELL AS THE COUNTY. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT RENTING SOME OF THOSE IDEAS TO APPLY WITHIN OUR CONTRACTORS SO THAT WE CAN ALSO ADD THE SAME VALUE-ADD WITH OUR WORK, WITH OUR CONTRACTORS AND CONSTITUENTS AS WELL. WE ARE INVESTIGATING REDUCING INSURANCE LIMITS FOR WMBEs AND SLBEs AS PRIME CONTRACTORS WHEN APPROPRIATE CURRENTLY, WE REVIEW CONTRACTS, CONTRACTORS INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND SEE IF THEY ARE APPLICABLE. NOW, WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? THERE WERE CONTRACTORS, LIKE DELIVERY CONTRACTORS WHO HAD ENORMOUS INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THE ONLY THING THEY WERE DOING WAS DROPPING OFF THE DELIVERY PRODUCTS, OR MOUING CONTRACTOR, WHENEVER WE SEE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN REDUCE OR EVEN DROP THOSE BONDS AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, WE ACTUALLY DO THAT. AND WE ARE EXPLAINING THAT FURTHER. WE WERE ASKED TO ESTABLISH A WMBE, SBE GOALS UP FRONT PRIOR TO DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTS, AND FOR CCNA, RFQs. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE ARE REVIEWING THE WMBE AND SLBE GOAL ESTIMATES ON THOSE CONTRACTS PRIOR TO THE CONTRACT -- IN THE SCOPE DEVELOPMENT PHASE. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE USING HISTORICAL MEASURES THAT WERE SIMILAR TO CONTRACTS IN THE PAST, AND SETTING THOSE GOALS. NOW, AFTER THE CONTRACTOR -- THE SCOPE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED, THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL ADJUST THOSE ACTUAL GOALS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. WE ARE ASKED TO AGGRESSIVELY ENHANCE THE E-CODE SYSTEM FOR WMBE BUSINESSES THROUGH RECRUITMENT CERTIFICATION SUPPORT TRAINING MENTOR PROTEGE PROGRAMS, TO INCLUDE STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT, AND OTHER SUPPORT EFFORTS. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, WE HAD OUR BRIDGES FOR BUSINESS PROGRAM. WE JUST HAD ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL BRIDGES TO BUSINESS PROGRAM LAST WEEK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS TO GET FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF HOW WE BETTER SUPPORT NEW BUSINESSES? I THINK HISTORICALLY WE ARE JUST GIVING THE CONTRACTOR SOMETHING, BUT NOW WORRY TAKING THAT EXTRA STEP TO SAY WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY CONDUCTING SURVEYS. SO AS BRIDGES TO BUSINESS, WE ARE DOING A SURVEY TO SAY HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM US? WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS YOU CAN DO BETTER TO SUPPORT YOU IN YOUR EFFORTS IN SUPPORTING THE CITY? SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPILING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC. PART OF THAT IS TO -- WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TO ASK HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT US, SO THAT WE'LL KNOW WHAT METHODS THE BEST WAYS TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL. BUT THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE NOT TO PUT SOMETHING IN A NEWSPAPER. SO AGAIN WE ARE COMPILING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. WEERE TO ENHANCE INDUSTRY, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THROUGH INTERACTION TO INCREASE SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE SOME OF THE PRIME CONTRACTORS FOR MATCH MAKING EVENTS, TWO SCHEDULED WITHIN THE REMAINING OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THE FIRST OF THE TWO WILL BE IN JUNE, AND THE NEXT ONE WILL BE IN DECEMBER. AND THESE ARE FOR THE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE LARGE PRANKS PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN MEET THE PRIMES WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND THEY CAN COLLABORATE. ANOTHER AREA THAT YOU ASKED US TO REALLY LOOK AT, AND THAT IS LOOK AT THE BAND WIDTH OF OUR EBO OFFICE. YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE? WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T GET CERTIFICATIONS OUT DONE EXPEDITIOUSLY? WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS THAT WE CAN USE OUR CHANGE MANAGEMENT AREA TO GO INTO THE EBO OFFICE TO DO A DEEP DIVE, PEEL BACK THE COVERAGE, TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS THAT WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR OUTSOURCING, OR DEEM NECESSARY ONCE WE BRING SOMEONE IN, WE CAN HAVE THEM LASER FOCUSED ON THE AREAS THAT WE NEED IMPROVED. WE USE THIS METHODOLOGY AND OTHER DEPARTMENT PORT KNOLL OWES IN THE CITY HAVE PROVEN TO BE QUITE BENEFICIAL AND SUCCESSFUL. IN TERMS OF ENHANCING OUR COMMUNICATIONS, WE HAVE DONE A -- HAVE PLACED A SIX-MONTH LOOK AHEAD FOR UPCOMING OPPORTUNITIES ON OUR CAD WEBSITE, CONTRACT CAD DEPARTMENT WEBSITE. THIS IS ACTUALLY POSTED STARTING IN APRIL, AND THAT IS CONTINUING TO BE UPDATED. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR MATCHMAKING AND SUBCONTRACTING EVENTS BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE SEEN NOT ONLY WE CAN PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LINK THOSE BUSINESSES,UT W CAN ALSO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE WE SEE GAPS, AND PROVIDING THOSE TYPES OF HELP AND RESOURCES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. WITH ALL OF THOSE STEPS AND THE LAST FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, ON BEHALF OF BOTH GREG HART AND GREG SPEARMAN TO PRESENT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, AND HOW HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO REALIZE SOME OF THE SUCCESSES? SO PRESENTATION AND GREG, IF YOU AREN PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN GUDES AND CITY COUNCIL, GREGORY HART, CITY OPPORTUNITY OFFICE. WE ARE CERTAINLY -- AND I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IF YOU WILL. YES. COUNCIL, YOU WERE REQUESTING AN UPDATE OF OUR PROGRESSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING TO ENSURE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM. AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW, IT IS A 20-YEAR $3 BILLION ENDEAVOR. IF I CAN BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TOP SQUARE ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE. THE EPO PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY TRACKING 62 CONTRACTS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1.2 BILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THE MIDDLE SQUARE IS REFLECTING 46 OF THOSE 62 PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTIVE CONTRACTS, EQUATING TO APPROXIMATELY ACTUALLY $$377 MILLION. LET ME NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IN BUILDING THIS GRAPH, WE DID TRANSPOSE SOME NUMBERS, SO THAT 843 MILLION THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE 16 PROJECTS AWAITING FINAL DEVELOPMENT OF GNP BUDGETSS SO THE 46 PROJECTS SHOULD READ 377 MILLION. THAT ARE ACTIVATED CURRENTLY. THE REMAINING 16 PROJECTS WHICH AWAIT FINAL GNP FINAL BUDGET APPROVAL EQUATE TO AN ESTIMATED 843 MILLION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD. OF THOSE 46 PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTIVATED UNDERWAY, WE HAVE ACHIEVED 22% PARTICIPATION, OR APPROXIMATELY $80 MILLION. AND I AM GOING TO ADDRESS HOW THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED IN TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATION GROUPS IN JUST A SECOND. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM SQUARE, WHICH IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT. IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT'S THE CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR SELECTING THE PRIME CONTRACTORS. IT'S A NEW POLICY CHANGE THAT MAYOR CASTOR IMPLEMENTED TO BOLSTER THE EBO PROGRAM OF INCLUSION, DIVERSITYND EQUITY, AND MAYOR CASTOR ACTUALLY SAW TO IT THAT THE WAY TO POINT FOR PROPOSALS WITH WMBE AND SLB PARTICIPATION HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT AND WEIGHTED INCENTIVE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IN TERMS OF THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE WAS WE WENT FROM A 5 TO 20-POINT WEIGHTED SCORING FOR WMBE INCLUSION OUT OF A TOTAL 100 POINTS IN THE SELECTION PROCESS. PROPOSERS HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE AS A RESULT, AND MORE STRATEGIC AS A RESULT OF THAT INCENTIVE, WITH THEIR GOOD FAITH EFFORT, AND OUTREACH RESPONSIBILITIES. THE ATTENTION OF IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY REALIZE THEY CAN EITHER WIN OR LOSE BEING SELECTED BY THE CBNA SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THESE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS SUCH AS PIPES BASED ON THEIR EFFORT AND INCLUSION OF WOMEN AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY THOSE UNDERUTILIZED GROUPS. SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW THAT 22% OF $80 MILLION IS EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED AMONG OUR CERTIFIED COMPANIES. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PIE CHART, 31% OF THE PIPES PROGRAM NBE, WBE, PARTICIPATION, 31% IS CONTRACTED WITH OUR BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISES BBEs, AND IT'S NOTABLE ON THIS CHART, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ESSENTIAL MENTION THAT LAST WEEK, MAYOR CASTOR KICKED OFF ASIAN-AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH AND IT'S FITSING TO HIGHLIGHT ON THIS CHART THAT OUR ASIAN PAICIPATION, CONTRACT THE COMMITMENTS, ARE 25% UNDER THE PIPES PROGRAM. SO I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT CERTAINLY WE HAVE TAKEN THE COUNCIL'S EMPHASIS AND FOCUS ON DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO IMPROVE PARTICIPATION OF OUR LOCAL SMALL MINORITY BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN THE PAPERS PROGRAM. AGAIN, IT'S EQUIVALENT TO ALMOST $3 BILLION OVER A 20-YEAR PERIOD. SO WE HIT THE GROUND TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S ONGOING AND SUSTAINABLEARTIPATION AND WE ARE JUST BEGINNING. AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER 2 BILLION TO BE SPENT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO THIS IS A RECAP FOR YOUR DIGESTION, AND UPDATE TODAY ON THE PIPES PROGRAM. >>OCEA WYNN: SO GREG SPEARMAN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK ON THE JOBS PROGRAM. >>GREG SPEARMAN: THANK YOU, OCEA. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRN GUDES@AN. IF WE COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS BASICALLY AN UPDATE THAT I AM SHARING WITH YOU REGARDING EBO PARTICIPATION ENHANCEMENTS REGARDING THE JOB ORDERED CONTRACTING PROGRAM. AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE APPEARED BEFORE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 4th REGARDING THE FIVE JOC CONTRACTORS THAT YOU APPROVED FOR THE JOB ORDERED CONTRACT PROGRAMS. SO LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO ENHANCE EBO PARTICIPATION. FIRST OF ALL, WE ESTABLISHED AS YOU HEARD MS. WYNN TALK ABOUT TWO BRIDGES TO BUSINESS CERTIFICATION TOURS, ONE ON MAY 13th AT THE BARKSDALE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE HAVE AN UPCOMING ONE ON JUNE 10th AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER. AND THE MAY 13th EVENT WAS KICKED OFF UNDER CASTOR, AND WE ALSO HAD IN ATTENDANCE COUNCIL CHAIR GUDES, SO WE THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND SUPPORTING THAT EVENT. WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED NEWLY CITY CERTIFIED FIRMS DIRECT CONTACT WITH JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS. SO THE INTENT HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THESE FIRMS BECOME CERTIFIED THAT WE GET THEM QUICKLY CONNECTED TO THE JOC PLAN CONTRACTORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN BECOME QUICKLYNGAG IF THEY ARE READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ONGOING JOB ORDER CONTRACTS. THE THIRD BULLET, WE REQUESTED THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS TO REFER NONCONTRACTORS TO E BO DEPARTMENT TO CERTIFICATION. IF THEY MEAT THE CERTIFICATION. SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A SEGMENT OF SLBE AND WMBEs WHO MAY BE WORKING WITH THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS THAT MAY NOT BE CERTIFIED. SO WE HAVE IMPRESSED UPON THE JOC RAYMOND JAMES TO PLEASE REFER THOSE COMPANIES TO MR. HART'S OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE THE CERTIFICATION, AND TO GET THEM CERTIFIED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE NUMBERS IN OUR REPORTING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE ALSO EDUCATED THE CITY COUPLE ON OUR JOC CONTRACT AS WELL AS THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS ON THE WAY TO CAPTURE TIMELY SUBCONTRACT PARTICIPATION INFORMATION. NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS ARE CAPTURING THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO CAPTURE ON THE FORM 10s. THESE WOULD BE THE FORMS THAT ARE USED BY OUTREACH. AND SECONDLY, ON THE NBD FORM 20, AND THIS IS THE FORM OF THE JOC CONTRACTORS REFLECTS A COMMITMENT AND UTILIZATION OF UNDERUTILIZED CERTIFIED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE NEXT BULLET. HE AN EBO RETRAINING SESSION, ECONOMIC DISTANCE RETRAINING BUSINESS SESSION FOR THE B 2 G DIVERSITY SYSTEM SO O- THAT WE CAN BE ASSURED OF GETTING ACTIVE REPORTING OF SUBCONTRACT PARTICIPATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION FROM OUR JOC REPORT THESE NUMBERS ACCURATELY- IN TIME OF PARTICIPATION SO WE HAD A RETRAINING SESSION WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR THE JOC PLANS TO USE THE B 2 G SYSTEM. THE LAST BE PROVIDED THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS WITH LISTS OF CERTIFIED FIRMS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION-RELATED TASKS TO ASSIST WITH THEIR OUTREACH. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS WITH THE CITY KNOWN AS A JOINT SCOPE SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS VERY BENEFICIAL, WHEN THAT JOINT SCOPE IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT, TO IMMEDIATELY PROVIDE THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS CITY CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS FOR THOSE SCIFI TASKS THAT WE HAVE READY, WILLING AND ABLE SUBCONTRACTORS SO THAT THEY CAN GET ENGAGED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE WORK HAS TO BE STARTED. SOME R SO ALL THOSE THESE INITIATIVES, COUNCIL, ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IMPLEMENTATION BY THE CITY, WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN SUBCONTRACTORS PERCENTAGES, AND WE CAME TO YOU ON MARCH 4 OF 2021 OF THIS YEAR WHEN WE USED FIVE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS. WE HAD A PARTICIPATION LEVEL OF ABOUT 1.2% FOR DBE. WHILE THE BACKS WERE NOT CLOSED YET ON 2020, AND I WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT THOSE NUMBERS ONLY REPRESENTED ABOUT SIX MONTHS OF REPORTING FOR 2020 BECAUSE WE ONLY STARTED THE JOC CONTRACTS IN ABOUT THE JUNE, JULY TIME FRAME OF 2020. OKAY? SO THE ACTUAL PARTICIPATION FOR 2020 FOR CALENDAR 2020 FOR DBEs WAS 2.27%. NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE PERCENTAGE LEVEL HAS BEEN THIS YEAR IN 2021, SINCE BETWEEN THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1st AND ABOUT THE LAST PART OF APRIL TO THE MIDDLE PART OF MAY. EBE PARTICIPATION, WMBE PARTICIPATION RATHER HAS THAT REMITS AN 80% PARTICIPATION RATE. FLB PARTICIPATION HAS GONE FROM 22.81% TO 27.4%. THAT REPRESENTS A 20% PARTICIPATION INCREASE IN RATES. BUT HERE IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THEM ALL, AND THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE ASKED US TO WORK ON, IN PARTICULAR, AND THE REASON THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS, EBE PARTICIPATION HAS INCREASED FROM 2.26% TO JUST UNDER 10%. THAT RRESES A 334% INCREASE IN DBE PARTICIPATION UNDER THE JOC CONTRACT. SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT THESE ENHANCEMENTS ARE WORKING, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A FULL SIX MONTHS YET. THIS IS JUST FROM JANUARY UNTIL ABOUT MID MAY. SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT ENHANCEMENTS WE PUT IN PLACE, ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE AT THE JOC PRIME, AND ALSO WITH OUR CONSULTANT IN TERMS MUCH GETTING THOSE NUMBERS UP. SO AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION BACK OVER TO MS. WYNN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL. I TALKED TO SOME FOLKS, AND I AM GLAD THAT ADMINISTRATION HEARD US, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT THE ONLY POINT I AM STILL MISSING WHEN I STILL HEAR THIS IS THAT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE TWO OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ON BOARD AND THEY UNDERSTAND JOC. HOW -- WE ARE GOING TO HOLD EVERYBODY ELSE ACCOUNTABLE, RETRAIN EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT HOW DO WE DO -- WHAT'S THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OUR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING AND MAKING SURE, I WANT DON'T WANT TO SAY GOOD OL' BOY SYSTEM BUT MAKING SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO ON OUR END WITH OUR PEOPLE TRAINING EVERYBODY ELSE, AND THE CONTRACTOR SUBCONTRACTOR EVERYONE ELSE, WHAT KIND OF PERFORMANCE EVALUATION ARE WE GOING TO HOLD OUR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DO? >> GO AHEAD. >>OCEA WYNN: WELL, I WILL ANSWER MY PART OF THAT, GREG, AND I WILL TURN ITVER TO YOU. COLLEEN AND I JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION, THAT WE CAN PUT ALL THESE MEASURES IN PLACE, BUT HOW DO WE BRING THAT IN-HOUSE, HOW DO WE BRING THAT INTO THE FAMILY? SO PART OF IT IS TO MAKE ALL OF IT BE DECISION MAKERS IN THE DEPARTMENTS AWARE THAT THERE IS A JOC PROGRAM, AND IT IS AN AVENUE THAT THEY COULD USE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTUAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY ARE, OR LOOKING AT USING JOC, AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE REQUIRED INTERNALLY, AND THE DIRECTOR, ASSET MANAGEMENT, LOGISTICS MANAGEMENT AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION JUST YESTERDAY. >>GREG SPEARMAN: AND WE HAVE ALSO HIGHLY PUBLICIZED THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION, AND KEEP IN OF THE PARTICIPATION PIECE PT REALLY RELIES UPON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE JOC CONTRACTORS. THESE CONTRACTORS ARE RATED IN TERMS OF THEIR PERFORMANCE. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS FULL ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT OF DBE PARTICIPTION. WE WORK HAND IN GLOVE WITH MR. HART'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. SO IN ADDITION TO THE EFFORT THAT YOU HEARD MS. WIN SPEAK ABOUT, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE PART OF THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTOR THAT WE BELIEVE BASED ON THE NUMBERS I JUST SHARED WITH YOU THAT OUR FORT ARE HAVING SIGNIFICANT RESULTS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. MRS. WYNN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY BUT IF I VOTED FOR JOC THE LAST TIME I MADE A MISTAKE. I HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR JOC THE LAST 15 YEARS, MR. SPEARMAN. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ANYONE. HOWEVER, I REMEMBER 15 YEARS AGO, JOC WAS AN OPERATION THAT CAME INTO THE CITY AND ASKED A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ANYBODY DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND YOU CAN STOP ME AND CORRECT ME ANYTIME I WANT BECAUSE I MAY BE MISTAKEN AT SOME POINT. TH I WAS TOLD THAT THE JOC CONTRACTS WERE ONLY FOR INDIVIDUALS ON SMALL ITEMS LIKE IF A CONTRACT WAS DOING A ROADWAY AFTER THEY LEFT, BRINGING THE GRASS IN PLACE AND PUTSING IN PODS AND MAKING IT LOOK PLEASING TO THE EYE, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING. NOW, I SEE WHERE JOC IS THE PRIME CONTRACTOR OF PRIME CONTRACTORS. SO I DON'T KNOW, JOC CAME IN, DID A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, WE TURNED IT OVER TO THEM AND THEY SAID, OH, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH? NOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO BUSINESS WITH ME. THAT'S WHAT JOC IS. THEY CE IN, AND GOTH THE SAME CONTRACTORS THAT WE WERE USING. NOW THEY ARE CONTRACTING WITH JOC FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HOW WE CAN GET A BETTER PRICE AND HOW COME WE DIDN'T DO IT OURSELVES. IN A REFLECTION ON YOU, SIR, PLEASE. SO HOW DID JOC BECOME A PRIME CONTRACTOR THROUGH THE PRIME CONTRACTORS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS NOT MORE COSTLY, AND UNLESS SOMEHOW WE MISSED THE BALL. I AM NOT SAYING SOMETIMES DON'T MAKE AN ERROR. I DO AND I ADMIT IT. SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS HOW DOES JOC SET ASIDE THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND ITS COST EFFECTIVENESS IF THEY ARE USING THE SAME CONTRACTORSER WE WERE USING BEFORE? WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE AND HOW DO THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT? AND THE CONTRACTOR, HE DIDN'T BRING THEM IN, DIDN'T CREATE NEW CONTRACTORS. MAYBE SOME SMALL ONES SOMEWHERE BUT THEY ARE THE SAME CONTRACTORS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN USING ALL ALONG. AM I CORRECT OR WRONG? YOU CAN TELL ME I AM WRONG. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT BEFORE. >>GREG SPEARMAN: I AM A NOT AWARE, COUNCIL, OF THE PRIME CONTRACTS USING THAT WE USED BEFORE FOR OTHER CONTRACTS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACT PROCESS REALLY IS A TRIANGLE EFFECT IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO THE WORK. IT'S TIME, IT'S QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE. AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK BECAUSE IT'S A PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT, NUMBER ONE. THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT THE CITY HAVING TO GO OUT AND DO MULTIPLE BIDS. WE WILL INCREASE OUR WORKLOAD SIGNIFICANTLY HAVE TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND BID ALL THESE CONTRACTS. SO IT'S A PERFORMANCE BASED MANAGEMENT TOOL THAT MEASURES TIME AND PERFORMANCE, AND WITHIN COST, I MIGHT ADD, AND IT ALSO INCREASES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SLB AND SLBE -- >> I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT IT DOES THAT. I AM DISPUTING MYSELF THERE'S A TUG-OF-WAR WITHIN THIS LITTLE BODY THAT'S TELLING ME IF EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS TRUE, THEN WE FAILED IN SOME DEGREE. NOT YOU BUT WE FAILED IN GENERAL AS A CITY, THAT PERFOANCE BASED CONTRACT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EVERY CONTRACTOR IS PERFORMS BECAUSE IF YOU GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO DO THE JOB ONE TIME CORRECTLY THAT'S PERFORMANCE BASED. SO YOU ARE TELLING ME, I GET A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN YOU HEAR WE WERE DOING IT BUT WE WEREN'T DOING IT RIGHT. NOW THE JOC CONTRACTOR IS THE SAME CONTRACTORS THAT WERE WORKING WITH US. THEY DIDN'T BRING IN NEW PEOPLE. THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE. THEY AREN'T EVEN NEAR HER. ONE IS IN WASHINGTON. I CAN TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE BY NAME IF YOU LIKE. REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES BECAUSE I DID AN INVESTIGATION ON MY OWN. SO WHAT I AM SAYING, WHAT IS GOING ON THAT WE CANNOT DO THE SAME THING? AND I APPRECIATE THE WORDS THAT YOU ARE USING, THAT THEY CAN DO IT RELIABLY FASTER. HOW COME YOU COULDN'T DO IT FASTER? YOU SAID YOU HAD TO GO OUT FOR BIDS. I IMAGINE YOU ARE STILL GOING OUT FOR BIDS. IF NOT THE BIDDERS ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN THAT A HIGH BIDDER MAY GET A JOB. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. >>GREG SPEARMAN: AGAIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS IS THE PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS US TO HANDLE MANY, MANY PROJECTS, VERY, VERY EFFICIENTLY AND VERY EFFECTIVELY. WITHIN A REASONABLE COST. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THESE INDIVIDUAL MULTIPLE CONTRACTS AND WE WOULD NOTABLE ABLE TO GETS THE WORK DONE AS QUICKLY. SO THIS IS THE PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT, IT ENABLES US TO OPERATE IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT MANNER. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THE ONLY THING PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT TO BE ALL OF THEM. AND THEY SHOULD BE OUT OF THE PICTURE. THEY HAVE GOT TO BE MAKING SOMETHING ON TOP OF WHICH WE ARE PAYING. IF NOT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS. IT'S JUST LOGICAL. SO EVERY TIME I SEE SOMEBODY TELLING THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WE HAD AS CONTRACTORS WHAT TO DO, THERE'S A SLICE OF MONEY GOING SOMEWHERE, AND I AM LOOKING AT THE HISPANIC IS ONLY 5%. AND I THINK WE DID A POOR JOB THERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, I KNOW IT WAS DOWNSIZED, AND HEAR MR. SPEARMANAYING THE WORKLOAD, THE WORKLOAD. I HEAR THE SAME THING IN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE WORKLOAD, THE AND WE AIN'T MOVING THE NEEDLE. SO I SEE MR. SPEARMAN'S POINT OR THAT ASPECT, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THIS WORK AND WE HAVE THESE OTHER FOLKS. WE JUST CAN'T DO IT ALL. BUT I SEE YOUR POINT, WHICH IS RIGHT. OKAY, WELL, WE CAN DO IT, SO I GET THAT SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A POINT ON EACH EAR, SO I THI THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER, THE WOMANPOWER TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND I DON'T WANT TO PICK ON HOUSING BUT HOUSING IS A BIG THING RIGHT NOW, AND CAN'T GET THAT WORK OUT AND GET THINGS DONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, AND I DID TALK TO DENNIS, AND WE HAVE TO DO SOME OUTSOURCING AS WELL. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. SPEARMAN IS SAYING. BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE, I KNOW. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIRING MORE PEOPLE AND WHAT THE JOC IS GETTING FOR THEIR BENEFIT OF DOING THE JOB. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS. I DON'T KNOW IF JOC IS REALLY 1%, 100% OF SOMETHING, AND WHAT HE PLACED TO HIRING PEOPLE FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOT YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S ALL I HAVE, COUNCIL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, WHAT I CAN SAY IS THIS. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE NOT HERE BUT I AM GLAD THE ADMINISTRATION PUT UP THE EFFORTS TO MOVE THE BALL. WE KNOW IT HAD TO BE MOVED. WE DID WHAT WE HAD TO DO. BUT BECAUSE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT BECAUSE PREVIOUS THINGS GONE ON, AND IT'S ALWAYS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT THINKING AROUND HERE ANYMORE. BECAUSE TIME CHANGES EVERY DAY. DOESN'T SIT STILL. SO I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE MOVING THE BALL. BUT BY STAYING STILL WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE ADMINISTRATORS UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEW DAY IS A POSITIVE, THAT WE HAVE TO GET THINGS MOVING FOR BLACKS, HISPANICS EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY IS MAKING A LITTLE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS HUNGRY. SO I AM GLAD THE EFFORTS, BUT AGAIN I AM HOPING -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, A PILOT, HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE HOLD THOSE OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE THESE CONTRACTS, AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING THE BALL, AND HOLD THOSE FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. I CAN SAY IT IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES WHEN SOME OF THESE JOBS THAT WE TRY TO FIND FOLKS TO DO THOSE JOBS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THEM TO DO. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. AND I DO UNDERSTAND I HEAR MANY NAMES AND NUMBERS OF MR. SPEARMAN AND MR. HART. AND I GET UPSET. AND THAT UPSETS ME TREMENDOUSLY SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER BIG SHOW AND SEE WHERE THAT BALL IS AS WELL. >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AS WELL. WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 10. MR. DINGFELDER IS NOT HERE. WHO HAS ITEM NUMBER 10? ALL RIGHT, CATE. >>CA WELLS: GO. >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT. WE ARE HERE TODAY ON ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11. WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. THEY ARE RELATED TO CHAPTER 27 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND WE PACKAGED THEM FOR YOU TODAY IN A SINGULAR PRESENTATION. EXCEPT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NOT HERE. WE DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION. ALSO LACHONE DOCK JOINED ME IN MY OFFICE AS WELL. SO SHE IS WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON. SHE'S GOING TO COVER A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES FOR YOU. AS WELL AS MYSELF. SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS MADE IN RELATION TO THE POTENTIAL FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS TO GO TO A QUARTERLYYCLE AND ALSO THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT CAME FROM A FEW MONTHS AGO ON THE POTENTIAL FOR ADMINISTRATIVE -- SO DISCUSSION OF 5%. WE WORKSHOPPED THAT, CAME BACK WITH YOU, ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME ON THAT, AND WE WANTED TO RESEARCH WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE, IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED, AND WE ARE BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR WORKSHOP GOALS TODAY WITH YOU, COUNCIL, IS TO DISCUSS THE TEXT AMENDMENTS. WE WLD LIKE TO N ALTERNATIVE FOR THE PROCESSING OF TEXT AMENDMENTS ON A WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU CHANGES TO THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT REFLECT SOME OF YOUR MORE RECENT DIRECTIVES INCLUDING HAVING PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSIONS, AND DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE KIND OF COME UP WITH AS WE HAVE RESEARCHED THIS ITEM. SO THIS WOULD BE OUR TWO GOALS IN RELATION TO TEXT AMENDMENTS. AND THEN IN THE LAST BULLET, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT TODAY, AND DISCUSS SOME CRITERIA AND THE ASSOCIATED PROCESS UNDER WHICH THOSE LOT SPLITS WOULD BE HANDLED. SO TO LEAD OFF ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SULING PLEASE. ONE MORE. I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LACHONE TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE RESEARCH SHEONDUED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. >>LACHONE DOCK: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL. LACHONE DOCK WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. COUNCIL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND REGARDING OUR CURRENT PROCESS FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS PROCESSING. ONE IS CURRENTLY THE APPLICATIONS OF OUR PROCESS TWICE A YEAR. SO THIS IS IN JANUARY AND IN JULY. THIS WOULD INCLUDE BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS. BY THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT, THOSE ARE THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE EITHER DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL, OR EITHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE THROUGH THE PLANNING MANAGER OR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. THESE CYCLES IS APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS LONG. SO THERE'S AN APPROXIMATE TIME FRAME. BASED ON THE REQUEST THAT TIME FRAME CAN VARY. EACH CYCLE CAN CONTAIN BOTH PUBLICLY INITIATED AND PRIVATELY INITIATED CHANGES. JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT THE PRIVATELY INITIATED CHANGES, THEY ARE A COMMON PRACTICE IN MANY JURISDICTIONS. NO COUPLE OF SLIDES I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT COMPARISON. AND PROCESSING NEEDS THAT STAFF CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE CODE WRITER, CURRENTLY COORDINATES, CONDUCTS PUBLIC OUTREACH. THERE IS REALLY NO FORMALIZED PROCESS FOR PROCESSING THE TEXT AMENDMENTS. CURRENTLY ONE STAFF MEMBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER DUTIES IN ADDITION TO THAT. NO FORMAL APPLICATION CURRENTLY EXISTS. SO PARAMETERS FOR PROCESSING, THERE AR NO LIMITATIONS ON THE SCOPE OF THE REQUEST. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS A COMPARISON OF JURISDICTIONS. HAVE TAKEN DATA FROM FOUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS. SO WHAT WE USED WAS AN EARTH TONE, YOU SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA, SO THAT'S OUR PROCESS. THE FIRST THING WE LOOKED AT WAS WHETHER OR NOT PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS WERE ALLOWED IN THESE OTHER JURISDITIONS. YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AT PROCESS THAT THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, MADEIRA BEACH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF ST. PETE, THEY ALL ALLOW PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS. THE CITY OF ORLANDO WAS THE ONLY . THE CITY OF ORLANDO IS A LITTLE GIVE IN THAT THEY ONLY PROCESS AMENDMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR OR THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION. THE NEXT SET OF DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU IS THE FEE. SO YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE BOARD, THE ENTITIS THAT PROCESS PRIVATELY INITIATED, W ARE THE LOWEST FEE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON ALSO. ALSO, THE PRESUBMITTAL MEETING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR ALL OF THOSE, ALL JURISDICTIONS, THE NEXT ONE THAT WE RECEIVE THE DATA ON WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO DO PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHETHER PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL OR AFTER THE TIME THEY SUBMIT THEIR REQUEST, FOR PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT. YOU CAN SEE THAT CURRENTLY WE DO NOT REQUIRE THE APPLICANT, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT IS CONDUCTED BY CITY STAFF.% BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MADEIRA BEACH, CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG, THEY DO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND SPEAKING TO BOTH OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS, IT IS REQUIRED BEFORE THEY EVEN SUBMIT. THIS WAY THE PUBLIC IS MADE AWARE OF WHAT IS COMING, WHAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED, AND THEY ALREADY HAD DISCUSSION WAS THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO. THE LAST ROW THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THIS CHART IS WHETHER OR NOT ADDITIONAL FEES WERE ASSESSED. THIS IS TO SHOW YOU, COUNCIL, THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THEY ALSO CHARGE ADDITIONAL FEES ON TOP OF THAT FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES. BE SO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE FIRST THING IS, WE WOULD LIKE TO DISTINGUISH AND SEPARATE THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT FROM THE STAFF OF COUNCIL-INITIATED AMENDMENTS, FROM THOSE PUBLICLY-INITIATED REQUESTS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW SCHEDULE. FOR PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS, ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO REVISE OUR FEE SCHEDULE, CLARIFY THE APPLICANT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT, REQUIRE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS FOR THE APPLICANT, AND REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTATION. AT THE TIME THE CITY STAFF PRESENTS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT BOTH THEIR BRIEFING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THE APPLICANT SINCE IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED REQUEST. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONTINUING WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE NEXT AMENDMENT SCHEDULE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WE HAVE TWO CYCLES FOR PRIVATE AMENDMENTS, AND TWO CYCLES OF PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT, PUBLICLY INITIATED AND CLEAN-UP ITEMS. JANUARY 15 AND JULY 15 FOR PRIVATELY. FOR THE PUBLICLY INITIATED, APRIL 15th AND OCTOBER 15th CYCLE. SO THAT GIVES THE PVATE AND PUBLIC CYCLES TWICE A YEAR. >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND IF I CAN, THIS REALLY CAME ABOUT AS WE -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD MADE THE MOTION AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE WERE PROCESSING THINGS, HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS WERE PROCESSING THESE TYPES OF AMENDMENTS, AND THEN ALSO THE OVERALL WORK FLOW, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE INTERACTION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH COUNCIL LATELY WHERE THERE WAS A RECENT CYCLE THAT WAS A PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLE, THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHOSE CYCLE WAS THAT? I THINK WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION REALLY WOULD DO IS ALLOW US TO HAVE THOSE PRIVATELY INITIATED IN THE ESTABLISHED CYCLE AND THEN DEDICATED TIME FOR US TO BE EXAMINING THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENTS THAT ARE EITHER COMING OUT OF COUNCIL MOTIONS OR COMING OUT OF INITIATIVES, THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT TO MOVE THE ORGANIZATION FORWARD, OR GENERAL CODE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SOME TIME. BUT THAT WOULD REALLY GIVE US THOSE ORGANIZED DISCUSSIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DO THE PLANNING AND LEG WORK THAT GOES BEHIND PUTTING THOSE AMENDMENT TOGETHER. IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHAT WE DID IN THIS SLIDE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS THE DIFFERENCE TO ACTUALLY PROCESSING THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS FOR OUTSIDE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND HOW, IF THEY ARE DONE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, MANY OF THOSE EFFORTS ARE GOING TO OVERLAP. AS LACHONE MENTIONED TO YOU, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE DEDICATED IN THE PROCESSING OF LACHONE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE EFFORTS DO OVERLAP AND THAT'S WHEREIN WE WERE SAYING, IF WE CAN CREATE TWO DEDICATED CYCLES, PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS AND TWO FOR THE PUBLLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GIL REALLY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE PLANNING, DO THE FOCUS, DO THE OUTREACH. THAT IS ONE STEP THAT WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND PUT INTO THIS TODAY TO SHOW YOU, I THINK SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SAW YOU, WE DID GO AHEAD AND SET UP A PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION FOR JUNE 7th. WE ARE CONDUCTING COMING UP. AND THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE WORKSHOP THAT W JUST BEFORE YOU. THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WORKSHOP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE WORKSHOP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND THEN THE PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLE FROM MR. MICHELINI AND MR. BERM THAT WE TRADE TO BRING YOU BEFORE YOU A MONTH AGO AND YOUR REQUEST WAS INFORMATION SESSION. SO WE HAVE NOW SET THIS UP. AND THIS TIMELINE NOW REFLECTS THE INTEGRATION OF THOSE ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE ARE LG TO HAVE MOVG FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO AS LACHONE MENTIONED FOR THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT, AND AGAIN THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND LIKE THE WORKSHOP WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE FEEDBACK ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WOULD PUT THAT FEEDBACK INTO THE INFORMATION SESSION AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST TO BRING YOU THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THESE ASSOCIATED RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPOSAL. SO THE FIRST IS UPDATE OF THE FEE SCHEDULE. AS YOU SAW OUR FEE SCHEDULE IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU PAY ONE FEE WHETHER YOU ARE RECOMMENDING ONE CHANGE OR YOU ARE YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THE ENTIRE CHAPTER CHANGE. SO WE WOULD RESEARCH AND PROVIDE BACK TO YOU A TIERED SYSTEM THAT WOULD LOOK TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THE APPLICATIONS AND REQUESTS COMING . THE SECOND WOULD BE TO CLARIFY THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT NOW AN APPLICATION CAN COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO CHANGE TEXT BUT WON'T WRITE THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED. SO STAFF IS ACTUALLY SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, AND TAKING AN APPLICANT'S IDEA AND THEN PUTTING IN THE TEXT SO WE WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICATION BE CHANGED TO EXCLUDE THE EXACT TEXT THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR, A WRITTEN JUSTIFICATION AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND THEN WHAT CODE SECTIONS ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THAT PROPOSED MODIFICATION. SO IF YOU ARE MAKING, FOR EXAMPLE, A PARKING CHANGE TO STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, YOUR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS FIVE DIFFERENT TABLES OF THE CODE SO THEY WOULD NEED TO BE SHOWING US ALL CHANGES, AND RIGHT NOW THAT ONUS SITS ON STAFF TO FIND THOSE CHANGES AND MAKE THEM THROUGHOUT. AND WE STILL WOULD BE DOING THAT. WE WOULD JUST BE DOING THAT MORE FROM THE REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION STAGE THAN THE ACTUAL GENERATING THOSE MODIFICATIONS. THE THIRD WOULD BE TO REQUIRE A MUST BE INFORMATION OUTREACH BY THE APPLICANT. IN SOME JURISDICTIONS, PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, AS LACHONE DISCUSSED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING AS WELL, SUGGESTS AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, THE PRIVATE APPLICANT WOULD HOLD THAT. THE APPLICANT, RATE NOW IT'S KIND OF AN ODYSSEY BECAUSE IT APPEARSHAT STAFF IS SITTING IN AN ADVOCACY ROLE FOR THE APPLICANT STAFF AMENDMENT BUT WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT GENERATED THAT AMENDMENT. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL. STAFF WOULD EVALUATE THE AMENDMENT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT BUT LIGHT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR HOW THAT IS BEING DONE AND UNDER WHAT CONTEXT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT CLARIFIED AS WELL. LASTLY, WOULD BE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT, PRESENT THE AMENDMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BRIEFING AND HEARING. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FOURTH RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE PRIVATE INITIATED AMENDMENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION, ABBEY? >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS THE END OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT PRESENTATION YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL. MR. DINGFELDER, AND MR. MANISCALCO SECOND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK Y, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, LADIES. SO GOING BACK TO THE CORE ISSUE ABOUT PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS, SO IF I AM JOE CITIZEN OR JOSEPHINE CITIZEN, OR MAYBE I'M A T.H.A.N., THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, OR MAYBE I'M CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A VERY INVOLVED NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON, AND I HAVE GOT A GOO IDEA ABOUT A CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENT, WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS AS THAT TYPE OF PERSON? WELL, MY EXPERIENCE TELLS ME THE OPTIONS, OR THE WAY THEY GO ABOUT, IS THEY CONTACT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIAL, US, AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS PART OF CHAPTER 7, 27, NEEDS CHANGING. AND THEY COME TO THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, OR MAYBE THEY MENTION IT TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE AT ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN HE INVOLVES LIKE THAT. I KIND OF EQUATE IT TO TALLAHASSEE, OR WASHINGTON. IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA THAT YOU THINK IS GREAT, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WALK INTO TALLAHASSEE TO THE CAPITOL BUILDING AND PUT IT ON THE FLOOR AS YOUR BILL PRIVATELY INITIATED BILL. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ONE OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. WELL OR MAYBE A STAFF PERSON AND GET MOMENTUM THAT WAY. I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY WEIRD THAT IF YOU HAVE GOT THE MONEY, OKAY, AND YOU HAVE GOT LAWYERS, OR EXPERTS, THATOU C JUST WALK INTO CITY CITY COUNCIL, WITH GREAT MOMENTUM, WITH A CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENT. AND YOU HAVE A TOTALLY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD WITH JOE CITIZEN, OR JOSEPHINE CITIZEN, OR T.H.A.N., OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR CARROLL ANN BENNETT. I JUST THINK THAT'S WEIRD. AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S WRONG. I THINK MR. SHELBY, YOU WERE DOING A LITTLE MORE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, AND ABBEY, I APPRECIATE YOU AND LACHONE SHOWED US FOUR OR FIVE JURISDICTIONS, BUT MR. SHELBY, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, YOU WERE DOING A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH IN TERMSF LOOKING ALL ACROSS THE STATE TO SEE HOW PREVALENT THIS IS AND THAT SORT OF THING? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. DINGFELDER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAD ASKED TO BE CONTINUED THE LAST MEETING AND IT IS SCHEDULED TO COME BACK ON THE 24th AT YOUR WORKSHOP ON JUNE 24th. AND, YES, THE SCOPE OF MY RESEARCH IS BROADER, MORE POPULATION BASED THROUGHOUT THE STATE, PERHAPS EVEN FOCUSING ON STRONG MAYOR FORMS OF GOVERNMENTS AND ALSO INCLUDING THE PROCESS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENTS AS WELL. SO THIS IS SOLELY FOR CHAPTER 27 TODAY. SO I WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ON THE 24th WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE OF VALUE TO YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT MS. FEELEY AND MS. DOCK HAVE BROUGHT TO US AND DEFER I OVER UNTIL MR. SHELBY GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF HIS RESEARCH ON THAT. BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM ORIGINALLY, THAT I JUST QUESTION THE EXISTENCE OF THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED, BECAUSE I THINK I FEEL THE PLAYING FIELD IS UNEVEN IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, DO THIS, AND THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN APPROACHING US. ABBEY, YOU MENTIONED ON THE PENDING -- MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM'S PENDING PROPOSALS, THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION IS IN JUNE? >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUNE 7th AT 6:00 P.M. AND WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTICE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A LOCATION OR IS IT ZOOM OR WHAT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: VIRTUAL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S VIRTUAL. OKAY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN PERSON BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS VIRTUAL. WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO OUR MAIL LISFOR THE TAMPA -- WE ALSO POSTED WITH THE CITY CLERK, AND THEN WE HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT MARAI CAN CIRCULATE TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. IN REGARD TO THE PUBLIC, QUOTE, PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT, WHICH BASICALLY I THINK IS JUST COUNCIL-INITIATED AMENDMENTS, ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE ADDED THE MAYOR OR ADMINISTRATION'S INITIATED AMENDMENTS, AND THAWOUL BE WHAT YOU ARE CALLING PUBLIC, RIGHT ABBEY? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TRADITIONALLY FOR SOME REASON, COUNCIL IN THE PAST LIMITED OURSELVES TO TWICE A YEAR. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP, WHO KNOWS, A YEAR AGO, AND I SAID, WHY ARE WE LIMITING OURSELVES TO TWICE A YEAR? BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE A PRESSING ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE ON MORE RAPIDLY. I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST DO IT WILLY-NILLY 52 WEEKS A YEAR AND THROB THAT AT YOU. BUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE, AND I AM GOING TO REPEAT IT AGAIN TODAY, IS IT APPEARS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION STILL SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE LIMITED TO TWICE A YEAR IN TERMS OF THAT CYCLE. I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE'S FOUR POTENTIAL CYCLES GOING ON THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER QUARTERLY AT ANY GIVEN TIME IN THAT QUARTER. AND THAT WOULD BE OUR LEGISLATIVE DECISION TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE WANT TO HAVE OUR HANDS TIED. WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO STAFF AND TO YOUR TIME. BUT IF YOU ARE LAYING OUT A QUARTERLY SCHEDULE, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP IN AT ANY ONE OF THOSE QUARTERS. SO I AM THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM A YEAR AGO WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST BRIEFLY ON THE FEE, WHICH IS BEING ADDRESSED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE. I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO US. BUT I CALCULATED THAT WE ARE 45% OF THE NEXT CHEAPEST, WHICH IS 666 AND 50 CENTS COMPARED TO HILLSBOROUGH WHICH IS 1495. I THINK SOMEONE PAYS A THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO PUT AN APPLICATION TO VACATE AN ALLEY. YET SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE, WHATEVER IT IS, BIG OR SMALL, THEY ARE ONLY GETTING IT FOR $666. I MEAN IT'S NOT EVEN COMPETITIVE. WE ARE GIVING OF THE AWAY. AND THERE'S A LOSS OF REVENUE THERE. AND JUST THE NUMBER 666! I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I AM GLAD WE ARE CHANGING THAT, 666 AND 13 CENTS AT THIS POINT. BUT YOU ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING IT. I MEAN, EVEN IF IT BECOMES $1,000 OR IF IT'S TIERED STRUCTURED DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS APPLYING FOR, WE HAVE LOST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY I THINK OVER THE YEARS SO I AM GLAD YOU ARE BRINGING THAT UP. AND I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER WAS JUST SAYING, HE TOUCHED ON QUITE A FEW ISSUES. AND THOSE ARE MY ONLY CONCERNS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU. I WOU IMAGINE IT'S 666, 50 IS BETTER THAN 666.66. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP SIR. AND I AM LOOKING AT WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID AND I AGREE WITH HIM PARTLY, AND THE PUBLIC INITIATED MOTION TO BRING SOMETHING UP COULD VERY WELL THE SAME ONES THAT THE COUNCIL BRINGS IN WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES TO SEE THE SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE MAYOR EIGHT, THEY MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE BRING IT UP AS PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. SO NOW IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL POLICYHOLDER, A PUBLIC OWNER OF A LAND THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, HE OR SHE CAN DO IT AND PAY THE FEE. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN GENERAL THAT WOULD CHANGE FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE CITIZENS, THEN I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL GETTING THE LETTERS, GETTING THE INFORMATION, HAVING THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IN GENERAL, OR LIKELY ONE OF THE COUNCIL REQUESTS OR ONE OF THE MAYOR REQUESTS TO GO THROUGH, I CAN SEE WHERE THEY CAN GET IT DONE FOR MUCH LESS THAN 6.50 AS THEY HAVE, CONTACT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THEM NOT HAVING THE ABILITY, BUT I THINK THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY IF THEY WORK THE SYSTEM. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. SO I THINK TO ME IT'S THE SYSTEM THERE. WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT $666.50 AND I LOOKED AT THE COMPARABLE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AT 1450, OTHER THAN 2,000, OTHERS AT 2200, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED THERE, AND MS. FEELEY AND MRS. DOCK, LOOKING AT COSTS. MAYBE YOU CAN GIVES AT THE REVIEW OF COSTS WHAT IT REALLY COSTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOURS THAT YOU ALL PUT IN AND IT'S NOT ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, IT'S COUNTLESS PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR THE GENERAL TAXPAYERS THAT ARE USING THAT FUND TO FUND THE PROJECT, TO AIR IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THERE'S GOT TO BE A CONCERTED EFFORT AS FAR AS THE REAL COSTS, AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS. I AM NOT AGAINST RAISING FEES OR LOWERING FEES DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF SOCIETY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THE SETTING OF FS WAS RAISED INITIALLY BY MR. MANISCALCO, IN THE SENSE THAT HE MENTIONED IT WOULD BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL I WANT TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS OF SETTING FEES IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. ABBEY -- WILL IT BE COMING BACK TO THEN, THE SETTING OF FEES? >>CATE WELLS: THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. DO YOU HAVE IT? THAT'S PROBABLY HOW IT GOT TO 666, BECAUSE OF THE ONE PERCENTAGE INCREASE YEARS AGO. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT IS SET BY RESOLUTION. I WANT TO COME BACK FIRST WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND. I JUST WANTED TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS WITH YOU TODAY WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE, OR BE SUPPORTED TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN EVALUATING THE ENTIRE -- THE PROCESS WE CURRENTLY HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. MR.IRAN, I JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING. I APPRECIATE YOUR KIND WORDS EARLIER. WHEN THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS COME IN TO US LIKE THE ONE THAT MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM HAVE PENDING, THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO ONE PARCEL. THEY ARE AMENDING THE ENTIRE CODE AS RELATED TO ALL THE PUBLIC, AS YOU STATED. SO OFTEN -- AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE KIND OF SLOWED THEM DOWN AND SAID, WAIT A SECOND, YOU NEED TO GO TALK TO THE PUICND THIS NEEDS TO BE VETTED MUCH MORE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, IT'S NOT LIKE A SMALL NOUN COMP PLAN AMENDMENT OR REZONING THAT JUST APPLIES TO ONE PARCEL. WHEN THEY DO THESE CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS, THEY IMPACT EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD CONCEPT IS REALLY FAIR. AND FRANKLY, I THINK WE SHOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS AND LET EVERYBODY USE THE PUBLIC PROCESS, WHICH IS THROUGH US, AND THROUGH STAFF, OR THROUGH THE MAYOR, OR JUST COME IN THROUGH THE NORMAL CHANNELS INSTEAD OF PAY TO PLAY. THANK YOU. >> [OFF MICROPHONE] AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I WASN'T USING ANY NAMES. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HASSLE LATER ON IN LIFE. IF SOMETHING THAT I SAID OR DIDN'T SAY. THAT'S WHY I USED THE TERM THAT I DID. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS ON BOTH OF THESE ISSUES, SINCE MR. SHELBY HAS A LITTLE MORE WORK TO COME BACK PROBABLY LIKE TO BRING IT BACK. IS THAT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT IT'S SET FOR, COUNCIL. AGAIN MY APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY. IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. BUT YES, THIS IS COMING BACK. WHAT YOU HAD ASKED OF ME IS COMING BACK ON THE 24th OR JUNE WORKSHOP. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I WOULD -- WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. I KNOW WE DRAG ON THINGS SOMETIMES BUT FOR VERY GOOD REASON. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MR. SHELBY'S RESEARCH AND COME BACK AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP IN JUNE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S JUN. THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 9 A.M. IS THE ONE THAT I AM PRESENTLY ON THE CALENDAR FOR ON THE 24th. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S BIG I BACK TO THE ONE ALREADY ON THE SCHEDULE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR. >> CHAIRMAN GUDES? >>ORLAOUDES MR. SHELBY, COMING BACK ON THE 24th. THE CLERK WANTS CLARIFICATION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT'S NOT MY RECOMMENDATION. THERE WAS A MOTION MADE LAST WEEK TO PUT THAT ITEM ONTO THE 24th, AND I BELIEVE IT'S COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER'S MOTION TO ADD THESE ITEMS TO COME BACK AT THAT TIME. IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK? CORRECT. >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE] >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BUT DISCUSSION. . FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I JUST WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE PART OF WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID. SO RIGHT NOW PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT ARE ROLLING AT ALL TIMES. AND WE HAVE THE TWO PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLES THAT SOMETIMES ARE QUITE VOLUMINOUS, SO TO SPEAK, AS TO WHAT COMES IN. SO I THINK PART OF OUR INTENT WAS TO GIVE DEDICATED TIME AND STAFF RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING FORTH FRO THE COUNCIL IN A MORE RESPONSIVE AND THOROUGH WAY THAN WHAT RESOURCES ALLOW IF WE JUST KEEP TACKING THEM ON AND KEEP THAT KIND OF ROLLING SCHEDULE. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO CREATE THOSE TWO TIMES OF YEAR WHEN WE WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THOSE MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE THAT ARE COMING FRACTURE FROM THE COUNCIL OR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, OR FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND BACK TO YOU. IF WE WERE TO JUST KEEP THEM TAGGED ONTO THE PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLES, I WOULD SAY THEN PLEASE JUST GIVE US TWO CYCLES AND THEN PERHAPS WE WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AGAIN, BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE I SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT REQUIRES A LOT OF OUR TEAM, OUR TEAM OF ONE, TO BE PROCESSING THESE AT ALL TIMES. AND THAT REALLY IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM. I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT FOR NO PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT. BUTT I DID RESPOND TO SEE IF ANY OF THAT RESEARCH WAS AVAILABLE TO INCORPORATE, AND IT WASN'T, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINE THE DISCUSSION TODAY TILL A LATER DATE. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT. THAT'S KIND WHY WE ARE DOING IT TODAY, IS WE ARE ONE OF THOSE CYCLES THAT IS JUST KIND OF OUT THERE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME STRUCTURE TO THAT, THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BETTER JOB IN THE LONG RUN OF PROCESSING THESE AND REALLY ADDRESSING THE MODIFICATIONS AND THE INTENT BEHIND THEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MR. SHELBY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. MS. FEELEY, I HEAR YOU AND I THINK THERE'S SE GOOD IDEAS IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I KNOW STAFF TIME IS ALWAYS LIMITED AND YOU GUYS ARE OVERWORKED AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. WAY WOULD SUGGEST IS BETWEEN NOW AND THE JUNE WORKSHOP THAT WE MEET AND CONVENE. I SEE MS. POST ON THE SCREEN AS WELL, AND I URGE HER TO BE THERE AS WELL AND I AM TOTALLY AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY TO KIND OF HASH THIS OUT AND SEE WHERE WE GO. BUT THAT'S JUST ONE COUNCILMAN, OBVIOUSLY. BUT SINCE IT WAS MY ORIGINAL MOTION, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAP. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. WE HAD DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. >> I HAVE ANOTHER ITEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. >> ONE OF THE OTHER DIRECTIVES WAS TO TRY, AND REMEMBER I CAME TO YOU A WHILE BACK ABOUT HOW WE DID -- THE CITY USED TO HAVE A PROCESS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION -- ADMINISTRATIVE CREATION OF LOTS, AND THE 80% RULE THAT TURNED INTO A SPECIAL USE, AND LATER ON WAS ELIMINATED, AND LOTS BECAME PDS. I BELIEVE YOU WERE SEEING A LOT OF THESE AND SOME OF THEM WERE VERY MINOR. AND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AS TO COULD THERE POTENTIALLY BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR A 5% SPLIT -- I'M SORRY, WHEN A LOT WAS 5% LESS THAN THE ZONING LOT REQUIREMENTS, AND WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, AND THEN TODAY WE ARE BACK WITH YOU TO PRESENT THAT AND OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT MOTION. AND ERIC IS HERE. ERIC IS HERE WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TOUGH THIS PRESENTATION REAL QUICK. IT'S ONLY A COUPLE SLIDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED. >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY, SULING, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO HERE IS THE MOTION THAT CAME DOWN AND THE 5% THAT WAS RELATED TO IT IN RELATION TO THE CRITERIA. SO NEXT SLIDE. WHAT WE DID, COUNCIL, WAS WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT THE REZONINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED BY YOU, AND WE REVIEWED 22 OF THE APPROVED ZONING CASES THAT REQUESTED LOT SPLITS, AND FELT WE PUT IN WERE THE PDS. AN AVERAGE OF THE 10 PDS, THE LOT REDUCTION WAS 17%. SO IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A 5%, WOULD NOT HAVE CAPTURED THOSE 10 MOST RECENT CASES THAT CAME TO YOU AS PDS. THAT BEING SAID, AND KIND OF BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THE OLD 80 PERCENT RULE AND THE 5% THA WAS BEING REQUESTED FOR EVALUATION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROCESS, THAT FOR EXAMPLE, ON A 10 PERCENT PROCESS IN THE RS-60 WHICH IS A 60 BY 100 LOT, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF A 54-FOOT LOT, 54 BY 100, AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. AND TO MENTION THAT IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS,HEY ALREADY HAVE A BUILDABLE LOT PROVISION FOR PLOTTED LOTS. IN EAST TAMPA WHERE YOU HAVE SOME 38-FOOT PLATTED LOTS, THOSE WOULDN'T BE ADMINISTRATIVE, THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, AND WE DO HAVE -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. -- A SLIDE THAT ILLUSTRATES FOR YOU THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THE LOT OF RECORD, THE OLD WIDTH, THE DATE OF WHICH THE LOT, THE OVERLAY OR THE SPECIAL DISTRICT WAS CREATED, AS OF JANUARY 1st O2008 OR 2006. IF YOU ARE A LEGAL OWNER OF RECORD IN ANY OF THESE AREAS DEPENDING ON THEIR IMPLEMENTATION DATE, YOU ARE CONSIDERED A BUILDABLE LOT AND YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPLIT OR TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR TO BE BUILT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION HEAR TODAY, AND IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS, WE WOU AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION -- WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS IN OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION ON JUNE 7th, AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST WITH THE ACTUAL CODE LANGUAGE FOR CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE FOLLOWING, AND ERIC AND MYSELF HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE, AND GETTING THEM TOGETHER, BUT WE DID WANT TO START OFF WITH JUST THE GENERAL CONCEPT WITH YOU TODAY. AND THE FIRST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CREATION OF THESE LOTS UNDER THIS 10% THROUGH THE FORMAL DECION PROCESS, THAT IS A NOTICED PROCESS, SO THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC NOTICE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, AND THEN WE WOULD CREATE THE CRITERIA THAT GOES WITH THOSE, AND THAT WOULD BE 10% OF THE REQUIRED -- REDUCTION OF UP TO 10% OF THE REQUIRED LOT DIMENSION AND/OR LOT WIDTH. IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND WE PUT THAT 1320 WHICH IS A QUARTER MILE, AND THEN THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO GRANT THE RECOGNITION OF ANY EXISTING SETBACKS. SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE A DOUBLE LOT, AND YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE ON ONE PORTION OF THAT, OR ON THE ORIGINAL PLATTED LOT ON ONE SIDE, THEN YOU HAVE A VACANT PLATTED LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND PEOPLE COME IN, AND THIS WILL BE TO RECOGNIZE ON THAT INTERIOR LOT LINE, IF THERE WAS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE, RIGHT NOW THAT PERSON HAS TO GO AND GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT SETBACK, IF IT DOES NOT MEET THE SEVEN FEET OR THEY COME TO YOU THROUGH A PD, TO GRANT THAT INTERIOR LOT SETBACK FOR THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, BE ALLOWED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. NOT TO VIEW IT AS A VARIANCE BUT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A NONCONFORMING CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SITE. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE IN A VARIANCE, IT ACTUALLY -- LET'S SAY IT'S 6 FEET, AND THEN IT CAN BE BUILT BACK. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD RECOGNIZE IT BUT IT WOULD NOT VEST IT AND IN THE FUTURE IF THAT HOUSE WERE DEMOED AND REBUILD IT WOULD MEET CODE. SO THAT IS OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION IN RELATION TO THAT. AND THEN WE JUST HAD SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE CLEAN-UP WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT RECONFIGURATION AND REORIENTATION AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING THAT UP AND HAVE THAT IN A FORUM ACROSS THAT CODE SECTION WHICH CURRENTLY IS SECTION 27-11 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, ABBEY. THAT WAS -- AND ERIC. THAT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE. AND COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE -- I THINK IT'S THE FIRST SLIDE OR THE SECOND SLIDE? KEEP GOING. NO. OKAY. NEXT ONE. STAFF REVIEWED 22 REZONING CASES, 10 WERE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCES, AN AVERAGE OF 17%. I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE MEDIAN WAS. THE REASON THIS JUMPED OUT AT ME, AND I THINK THE REST OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHO SUPPORTED MY MOTION, WAS WE WERE -- SOMEBODY WAS TWO FEET OFF AND THEY HAD TO COME IN FOR AN ENTIRE PD, AND HOW MUCH DID THAT COST, ABBEY, A COUPLE THOUSAND AT LEAST? AND SIX MONTHS, MAYBE 3 OR 4,000, AND SIX MONTHS, AND YADA YADA YADA, BECAUSE THEY WERE TWO FEET OFF, FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND THERE WERE DIFFERING REASONS. SO AND THAT TWO FEET COULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE 5%. I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WITH THE 10%, PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN I MIGHT WANT TO GO. I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THIS CONCEPT AND TAKE IT OUT AND VET IT TO THE PUBLIC. I'M SURE THE DEVELOPERS WOULD BE THRILLED WITH IT. BUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT 5% VERSUS 10%. BEFORE WE GIVE OUR FINAL DIRECTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THEM. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT 60 FEET TO 54 FEET, YOU KNOW, NO PLACE LIKE VIRGINIA PARK, WHICH HAS BEEN FIGHTING A LOT OF THESE, THEY MIGHT TAKE GREAT OFFENSE TO THAT. BUT MAYBE THEY COULD BE AMENABLE TO A 5% REDUCTION. ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY FOLLOW-UP ON THIS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I CAN RESPOND TO THAT REAL QUICK. WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO GO BACK AND SEE OF THOSE THAT YOU CONSIDERED HOW MANY WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE ADMINISTRATIVELY VERSUS HAVE THEM COME TO YOU AS A PD, AND I BELIEVE THE ANSWER WAS NONE AT 5%. SO -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW I VE SEEN -- I'M SORRY. I KNOW I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THEM AT 2 OR 3 FEET, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF CAME UP WITH THE 5%. MAYBE THEY WEREN'T PDS. MAYBE THEY WERE EUCLIDIAN. BUT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A LIST OF THOSE 22 CASES SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE FIRST HAND. SOMETIMES MEDIAN IS MORE INFORMATIVE THAN AVERAGE, BECAUSE ONE OF THEM MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LOT, AND THAT COULD SKEW THE AVERAGE. ANYWAY, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST SCRATCHING AROUND AND I AM LISTENING TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND YOU HAVE A SETBACK OF 7 FEET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE SETBACK, I THINK IT'S 7, RIGHT? SO YOU WANT TO GIVE 57%. 7 TIMES 12 IS 84 INCHES. CORRECT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS THE LOT WIDTH. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, LOT WIDTH. THE SAME PRINCIPLE TO THE LOT WIDTH. IF YOU TAKE 5% OF THE LOT WIDTH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LOT WIDTH IS, LET'S SAY 70 FEET WIDE AND 50 FEET, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT AND YOU TAKE IT BACK BY INCHES, WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MAY BE 4.5 INCHES DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO GIVE. 5% MEANS AND AWFUL LOT IN DIFFERENT MATHEMATICAL AREAS. IF IT'S A 20-FOOT THING SETBACK AND YOU ARE ONLY GIVING 5%, YOU CAN'T TELL THE NAKED EYE CAN'T TELL. BUT THE SMALLER THE SETBACK AND 5% EQUALO T SAME SUMS OF THOSE NUMBERS LOOKS MUCH GREATER BECAUSE YOU ARE CLOSER AND YOU ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO THE BUILDING AND IT'S MUCH CLOSER. FOLLOW ME? THE METRICS, I DON'T FIGURE IT OUT QUITE IN MY MIND HOW SOMETHING IS GOING TO LOOK VERY DIFFERENT IF YOU ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO NOT HAVING A SETBACK. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE 5%, BUT I HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT METRICS TO SEE HOW IT LOOKS IN DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS. >>: SO I GUESS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT MIGHT APPLY TO A 50-FOOTOT OR MORE LIKELY A 60-FOOT LOT. ACTUALLY, I GUESS WE HAVE SEEN THEM ON 50-FOOT LOTS. SO 50 FEET, 5% REDUCTION WOULD BE TWO AND A HALF FEET. 60 FEET, 5% LEE DUCKS WOULD BE 3 FEET. SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR THAT TWO AND A HALF FOOT OR THREE FOOT MODIFICATION, BASICALLY USUALLY WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LOT WIDTH AT THE STREET. SO INSTEAD OF COMING TO COUNCIL AT TWO AND A HALF FEET OR THREE FEET, WHAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING ISAYBEET THEM DO IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, AND MR. MIRANDA, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT 80% RULE THAT MS. SAUL-SENA VEHEMENTLY HATED,. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE IT WAS -- >>JOHN DINGFELER: AND ULTIMATELY GOT RID OF THE 80% RULE. BUT I THINK ABBEY WAS A 20% REDUCTION RIGHT? ERIC IS SHAKING HIS HEAD FOR THE RECORD. SO THAT WAS PRETTY STREAM. THAT BASICALLY SAID, HEY, IF YOU ARE WITHIN 20%, YOU KNOW, YOU N'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE, MAYBE YOU CAN DO IT ADD MECHANISM OR WHATEVER. THAT WAS PRETTY EXTREME. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER, BUT NOT TOO MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE? YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I COME BACK, IF YOU COME BACK, PLEASE SEPARATE THESE SO WE CAN VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY. SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID AT THE END. HINK 10% IS WAY TOO MUCH. THERE ARE TOO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA. MR. NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS WE SHOULDN'T TREAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD DIFFERENTLY. BUT I THINK 10% WOULD BE UPSETTING TO LOTS OF PEOPLE. BUT I WONDER ALSO EVEN IF IT'S 5%, BY THE WAY YOU WROTE IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A NEW ENTITLEMENT. SO INSTEAD OF 60 FEET, IT WOULD BE 57, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO BUILD IN ITS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ADMINISTRATION SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A JUDGMENT BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEED ENTITLEMENT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES THERE. WERE CRITERIA THAT TALKED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE LOT. UNDER THE GENERAL SECTION OF CREATION OF LOTS, IT'S IN THE CODE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT LOOSE DISCRETION. IT'S SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION. YOU KNOW, THERE'S CHECK BOXES. THAT'S WHAT ABBEY THINKS. SO STAFF WOULD REVIEW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT QUARTER MILE CIRCLE. AND IF IT'S COMPATIBLE TO ALLOW THAT 3 FAT REDUCTION, THEN THEY COULD ALLOW IT. >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY THING I AM SUGGESTING IS IT NOT BE AN AUTOMATIC ENTITLEMENT. WE SEE SO MANY CASES WHERE PEOPLE COME BEFORE US EVEN ON BIG ZONING CHANGES WHERE THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THE ENTITLEMENT WILL CHANGE. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH EXPECTATION. THANK YOU. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I COULD JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE ON THIS, A 5%XAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAD MENTIONED IT WOULD BE A 57-FOOT LOT. SO THIS WOULD BE -- IF 57 FEET IS A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION PLATTED LOT SIZE, AND IF THERE WERE A SUBDIVISION, AND SOMEBODY HAD A LOT CURRENTLY WHERE THEY HAD 1134 FEET TO A PLATTED LOTS AND THEY WERE COMING BACK, WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE BEFORE YOU IS PEOPLE COMING BACK WANTING TO ESTABLISH THE PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THOSE ZONING LOTS AND IN TSASE IF SOMEBODY HAD 114 FEET IT WAS TWO PLATTED 57-FOOT LOTS, THROUGH A 5% ADMINISTRATIVE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT SINGLE LOT AS TWO 57-FOOT LOTS WITHOUT COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. SO WE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT LIST, THE 22, AND GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT. AND INITIALLY I'M NOT SURE THAT A 5%, HOW MY APPLICATIONS THAT'S REALLY GOING TO SAVE YOU SO IN SAID BEING UP THE WHOLE PROCESS. BUT LET US EVALUATE THAT AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TAKE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ADD THAT TO YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY IN JUNE, JUNE 4th, THE INFORMATION SESSIONS, AS LONG AS WE ARE VETTING THESE KINDS OF ISSUES TO INCLUDE THAT DISCUSSION, AND SEE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WE GET ON 5% VERSUS 10%. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WILL DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE'S GOING TO BRING THAT BACK OR SHOULD WE BRING THAT BACK? >>ORLANDO GUDES: JOHN 24th, RIGHT? >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DID HAVE A DEMO OF KIND OF AN UPDATE. I KNOW I VERBALLY TALKED WITH YOU, AND I KNOW I VERBALLY MENTIONED THIS EARER. DO HAVE THAT JUNE 7th PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING THE NOISE ITEMS, THE AMPLE FIND SOUND ITEMS, THAT WE WORKSHOPPED WITH YOU ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. THE TEXT AMENDMENT CHANGE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT ONE I WOULD PROBABLY PUT ON HOLD AND THE INFORMATION SESSION UNTIL WE GET MR. SHELBY'S RESEARCH AND WE THAT.THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL ON AND THEN THIS ITEM HERE ON THE 5%, 10%, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE 7th. AND THEN THE PRIVATE INITIATED AMENDMENT, THAT WAS ASKED TO BE WORKSHOPPED AND THE PUBLIC IS ALSO BEING HANDLED ON THE 7th. THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM ARE SCHEDULED TO COME BACK ON THE 24th WITH THEIR FINDINGS FROM THE INFORMATION SESSION, AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THOSE TO YOU. THEY HAVE NOT DONE UNDER TIR PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED STADIUM. AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT WE ARE NOW COMPILING AS THIS PACKAGE OF PUBLIC INITIATED AMENDMENT THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK ON ONE TRACK FOR YOU, AT THE END OF AUGUST. SULING, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. COME FORWAR TOWARD THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. MINE IS NOT CHANGING. MAYBE YOU ALL ARE SEEING SOMETHING. OH, HERE WE GO. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. THERE WE GO. OOPS, WE PASD IT. ONE BACK. THERE YOU GO. SO YES, MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM COMING BACK ON THE 24th. WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU ON THE 7th WITH THESE ITEMS. NOW, THE TEXT AMENDMENT PER YOUR DIRECTION SAY WE WILL COME BACK WITH YOU TO LISTEN TO MARTY'S PRESENTATION ON JUNE 24th AND SEE HOW THAT MAY IMPACT WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, AND ALSO COORDINATE WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ON THAT MEETING AS REESTED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT JUNE 24th ON THIS 5% 10:%? THAT WAY, WE COULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE GET TO AUGUST 27th. >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A MOTION? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT A MOTION, MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I AM JUST ASKING WHETHER THE CLERK WOULD WANT -- DO WE NEED A MOTION, MS. FEELEY? OR NOT NECESSARY? >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS LONG AS THE CLERK IS AWARE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ON THE 24th, OR A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK ON THE 24th. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT FOR THE CLERK, THIS 5% OR 10% FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD VARIANCE, OR FORGIVENESS OR WHATEVER, ISSUE WILL COME BACK ON THE 24th FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECONDGY MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MOTION GRANTED BY CONSENT. ANYTHING ELSE? >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO GO DOWN, OPEN UP FOR INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS. AND THEN AT THE END I AM GOING TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT A SITUATION OF LAST WEEK, ASK FOR A MOTION. MR. VIERA, ANYTHING, SIR? >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YES, VERY BRIEFLY. I MOTION FOR RENE WAR MAC AND SAM PIASSA TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN A REGULAR SESSION ON JULY 15th, 2021 AT 9:00 A.M. IN HONOR OF DISABILITY AWARENESS DAY TO PROVIDE A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE DOCUMENTARY MOVIE "BECAUSE OF SAM." >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: THEN HOUSE BILL 53, MANY WERE AFRAID WAS GOING TO BE A BILL ON OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE WORKED WITH MAYOR CASTOR AND ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER, TO PASS, AND I AM PRETTY DARN SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STAFF -- I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A WEIRD BILL, BUT WHATEVER. IT APPEARS TO BE A BILL THAT PREEMPTS ORDINANCES WHERE THERE ARE STATE DOLLARS USED AND WOULDN'T APPEAR TO BE RELEVANT FOR US BUT I MOTION FOR STAFF TO REPORT ON THE IMPACT TO CITY OF TAMPA THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE AND WE CAN DO THAT AT THE END OF JULY IS FINE. WHATEVER THE CLERK CAN PUT IT IN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, IF THAT'S THE CASE, CONGRATULATIONS. >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WE'LL SEE. >> [OFF MICROPHONE] >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE IN OTHER CITIES AND I HAVE SEEN THE PRESS OF OTHER CITIES, OTHER CITIES ARE HAVING PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONEY, A I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT WE SCHEDULED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT YET. SO UNLESS SOMEBODY KNOWS SOMETHING, I THINK WE SHOULD -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, DIDN'T YOU ASK -- >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN, YOU CAN COUNCILMAN CARLSON. BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE ADMINISTRATION INDICATED THEY WOULDN'T KNOW UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT'S ROUGHLY TIME TO BEGIN TO PRESENT ON THE BUDGET. SO IT WOULD KIND OF CONFLICT. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, THAT'S $81 MILLION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING. AND THERE'S SOANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. BUT WHAT I WOULD TOLD IS THAT WHEN THEY FINALLY GET AN ANSWER IT WILL SORT OF CONFLICT WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET. SO IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP ONOR WHATEVER, I'M TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WAS A DISCUSSION MR. VIERA AND I HAD YESTERDAY. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THOSE FUNDS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH MR. ROGERO? >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE FUNDS ABOUT MAKING A PRESENTATION BECAUSE SOME FUND RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE HAVING HAVEN'T DEFINED HOWHOSEUNDSILL BE USED YET, AND WITHIN THE CITY GENERAL FUNDS. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON JUNE 24th. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: N IS THE AGENDA TOO BUSY ON THAT DATE? >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT MIGHT BE TOO EARLY, BUT A DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AS OF YET. >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. I AM GETTING LOTS MUCH COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARK BENCHES WITH SPLINTERS, POTHOLES, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THE PUN, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ASKING US FOR BOAT HOUSES OR YTHI LIKE THAT. THEY ARE ASKING US FOR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. JUST SPEAKING WITH HIM -- I WOULD SAY MAYBE JULY. BUT WOULDN'T HAVE NO TO THE INFORMATION ON HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT JULY 15th, STAFF REPORT ON JULY 15 THIS N SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE CFO'S OFFICE PRESENT DURING STAFF REPORTS ON JULY 15th,N THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN BUDGET, AND ANY PROPOSALS TO SPEND IT AND ALSO WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT DAY OF THEIR IDEA HOW TO SPEND IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO QUESTIONS THEN. THE FIRST ACTUALLY BEING WHEN YOU SAY HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, THAT WOULD BE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE UNDER STAFF REPORT ON THE 15th. IS THAT CORRECT? >>BILL CARLSON: OR ANOTHER FEEDBACK TO HEAR PUBLIC FEEDBACK. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF COUNCIL. IT WOULD BE LOGISTICALLY DIFFERENT FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO PREPARE FOR THAT. ANOTHER POINT, AFTER HEARING WHAT CHAIRMAN GUDES HEARD YESTERDAY FROM THE CFO, I THINK IN MY OPINION IT WOULD BE EQUALLY IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE SO FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ATTACHED TO THAT, AND A PROCESS AND WHAT IT CAN ANT CANNOT BE USED FOR, BEFORE THEY MAKE A JUDGMENT, BEFORE THEY BRING THAT TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEY WERE NEW TO ME. >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN DOES THE BUDGET HAVE TO BE DONE? IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT BUDGET AFTER JUNE IS SEPTEMBER, IS THAT RIGHT? >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, WHEN DOES THE MAYOR USUALLY PRESENT THE BUDGET? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JULY, I BELIEVE. >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD, WHICH IS LOOK, BY THE TIME WE HAVE AN ANSWER, IT'S GOING TO BE TIME TO PRESENT THE BUDGET. I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU MY PREFERENCE. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FOR THAT MONEY, AMONG MY IDEAS IS A FIRE STATION FOR NORTH TAMPA, HELP FOR NEW TAMPA, FIRE STATION FOR CHANNELSIDE, MORE HELP FOR WEST TAMPA WITH THEIR GROWING AREAS, FIRE SAFETY AMONG THEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S SEE IF MR. ROGERO CAN BRING US BACK SOMETHING BY THE 15th. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK CFO ON JULY 15th TO BRING A STAFF REPORT, HOW MUCH MONEY THE CITY WILL BE GETTING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, AND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR HOW CAN IT BE SPENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. CARLSON. SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? CARRIES. MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS A LOT. WE HAVE SOME GREAT COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO WE HEAR FROM REGULARLY. I WAS THINKING BACK A WAYS. I THINK MOST OR SOME OF YOU KNOW MARGARET VIZZI. MARGARET VIZZI WAS ONE OF THE -- STILL IS ONE OF THE TOP NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE SHE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF T.H.A.N. T.H.A.N. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS KIND OF WENT ON THE DOWNTURN A LITTLE BIT BUT NOW IT'S COMING BACK UP. AND THERE IS SOME NEW BLOOD, REVITALIZING T.H.A.N. SO I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE HONOR OUR OWN WORKERS. WE HONOR THE POLICE AND ATU AND THEY ARE ALL WELL DESERVING. BUT I WAS THINKING, AND THE COUNTY ALREADY DOES THIS, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER OF THE YEAR AWARD IN RECOGNITION, GIVEN BY THE BODY, AND THAT WE SHOULD CALL IT THE MARGARET VIZZI NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER OF THE YEAR AWARD. UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANOTHER IDEA. AND I AM TOTALLY OPEN TO IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. MARGARET VIZZI -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN YOUR DISTRICT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN BEACH PARK AND I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A WHILE. AND WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH T.H.A.N. BEFORE I GOT ELECTED, STEVE LaBOUR WAS THERE, AND JERRY FRANKHOUSER, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PASSED AWAY, AND FOR A TIME, I REMEMBER GOING TO A MEETING WHERE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. THEY REALLDIDN HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, THEY SAID WE'LL HELP YOU, AND A DYING AND DEAD GROUP. BUT AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN REVITALIZED, NEW BALLAD, AND KEEPING IT GOING, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO I SUPPORT IT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A VEHICLE OF T.H.A.N. I JUST MENTIONED T.H.A.N. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MS. VIZZI WAS THE STRONGEST. BUT WE COULD FIGURE OUT SOME WAY HOW WE EVALUATE AND MAYBE -- MAYBE MORAI CAN HELP US WITH SOME NOMINATIONS OR IDEAS. NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER MIGHT BE, AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TRY TO SPREAD IT AROUND THE CITY SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS COMING OUT OF A PARTICULAR AREA. BUT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE FOUR. ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT. SO ANYWAY, I TOSS IT OUT TO YOU GUYS. AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT. AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR MS. HOLMES TO BRING BACK A POLICY FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD AWARD FOR THE DISTRICTS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I LIKE THAT IDEA ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT, AND SPREAD IT AROUND, SO EVERY YEAR, ONE FROM EACH DISTRICT GETS A NOD AND A LITTLE RECOGNITION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MANISCALCO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GIVE HER A LITTLE TIME TO PONDER IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 15th OR LATER ON? WHICH SARASOTAst CITY OF TAMPA'S BIRTHDAY, LET'S NOT FORGET. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT SOUND APPROPRIATE. JULY 15th. IS THAT A REGULAR MEETING? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STAFF REPORT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UP HERE TILL 6. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC COMMITTEE TO ATTEND OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST 26th, 2021, AT WHICH TIME THEY WILL BE INVITING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND THE 33rd ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE AWARD ON SEPTEMBER 28, THE YEAR 2021. MIRANDA, SECOND BY DINGFELDER. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL OF US KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY WATER, ONE OF NINE, TAMPA BAY WATER IS IN THE PROCESS OF INVESTIGATING OR INCORPORATING POSSIBLY RECLAIMED WATER INTO THE PROCESS OF LONG-TERM WATER USE. CITY OF TAMPA RECLAIMED WATER HAS A LOT OF RECLAIMED WATER, AND THE POTENTIAL OF PROJECTS WHICH COULD GREATLY INVOLVE THE REGION. AND I AM ASKING TAMPA BAY WATER AND THE CITY, W SHOULD MEET BEFORE WE DO ANY FURTHER PROJECTS, PLANNING OF THIS SUBJECT MATTER, AND I AM ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE A MOTION SENT TO TAMPA BAY WATER AND TO THE MAYOR TO ENCOURAGE TAMPA BAY WATR TO MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF, AND NOW TO IDENTIFY THE OPERATIONS AND CLARITY ON ANY OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA MAY HAVE FOR RECLAIMED WATER PROJECTS OF THE CITY, THAT WAY EVERYBODY HAS CLEAR TRANSPARENCY OF WITH WHAT ONE SIDE IS DOING, WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WANTS. >>LAND GUD: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I WILL BE A LITTLE CANDID. WITH WHAT I WANT TO SAY. LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CRB. AND WE WERE HEATED. THE ADMINISTRATION WAS HEATED AS WELL. BUT SOME THINGS WERE SAID IN THE PUBLIC EYE THAT THAN ME AS CHAIR DID NOT AGREE WITH BUT I DID NOT COME OUT AND SAY ANYTHING PUBLICLY BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT'S HEATED WE SAY THINGS WE DON'T MEAN OR THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE SAID. THAT BEING SAID, I FELT THIS COUNCIL, A LOT OF FOLKS WERE UPSET ABOUT THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE I THOUGHT WERE KIND OF UNFAIR TO THIS COUNCIL. BUT AGAIN, WHEN THINGS ARE HEATED, WHEN EMOTIONS ARE HIGH THINGS ARE SAID. I DON'T BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE MAYOR WAS TO SAY SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID TO THE COUNCIL. THIS COUNCIL DOES WOR HARD FOR THE PUBLIC. WE HEAR COMPLAINTS OF THE PEOPLE. UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL. I'M SURE SHE DOES HEAR THEM BUT NOT TO THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE HEAR THEM. SO AGAIN I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MY COLLEAGUES IF WE FELT WE WERE IN ANY WAY OUT OF LINE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID, AND WHAT I CALL THE BALL WAS DROPPED. AND I AM NOT GOING TO SAY THE BALL WAS DROPPED ON OUR END BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY GET WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION SENDS TO US. WE ONLY CANESPO TO WHAT WE HAVE. AND THAT SEQUENCE OF EVENTS LAST WEEK WE GOT THE BALL DROPPED ON US IN THE 9th HOUR RELATIVE TO THINGS TH ADMINISTRATION WAS LOOKING FOR. BUT YOU KNOW THERE WAS A VOTE OF 6-1 BACK IN FEBRUARY. IT WAS 7-4. AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT GET ANY NOTICE THAT THE MAYOR WAS NOT GOING TO UPHOLD WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A GOOD PLAN. WE HAD A GOOD ORDINANCE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT LAST WE, MOAY, PHONE CALLS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO THAT SITUATION. AS THE LEADER, I FELT, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND REFLECTED OVER THE WEEKEND, THAT MAYBE I SHOULD NOT HAVE LET THAT WALK-ON COME ON. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE WAITED, AND BEEN A SEPARATE MOTION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE. AND AGAIN, MY GUT FEELING IS THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. WE TRULY DO. BUT WE ARE IN A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD AGAIN WHERE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MUST BE OPINION, DIFFERENT GROUPS, ADMINISTRATION UNION. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. I FELT LAST WEEK WE WERE IN A SITUATION THAT WAS JABBED AT US AND WE MADE A DECISION. WE ALSO KICKED SOME THINGS DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE SAID WERE NOT A PART OF THAT ORDINANCE. WE MADE THAT CLEAR. THIS IS NOTE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE HAVE TO MAKE A -- AND A DECISION FORCED UPON US TO MAKE. YOU KNOW, A PERSON WHO LEADS, WHO RANKS FIRST, A PERSON WHO HAS COMMANDING AUTHORITY, I'M A LEADER AND MAYOR CASTOR IS THE LEADER OF ADMINISTRATION. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, LEADING A GROUP OF PEOPLE OR ORGANIZATION, I HAVE ALWAYS SAID WE HAVE TWO HOUSES, WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSE AND WE HAVE GOT A LEGISLATIVE HOUSE. AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T AGREE ALL THE TIME, BUT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE COMPROMISES FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. I DON'T KW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE 17th. THE MAYOR HAS MADE SOME STATEMENTS ON HOW SHE'S GOING TO PROCEED RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR. I THINK THAT'S NEEDED TO CLEAR THE AIR. I WISH JOHN BENNETT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS. I THINK A LOT OF US BELIEVE IN HIS LEADERSHIP AND I ALWAYS BELIEVE HE'S BEEN LOYAL AND UPFRONT. AND FOR SOME REASON HE WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS EQUATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHY. I WAN TO ASK THAT THIS BODY ALLOW ME TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR AND JOHN BENNETT, MR. SHELBY AND MS. GRIMES, AND WE TRY TO HASH THIS THING OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE. I GUESS THE BEST SOLUTION, I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK ON THE 17th WITH NO SOLUTION, AND WE HAVE A VOTE LIKE BEFORE AND WE GO TO SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES.. WE HAVE HOUSING ISSUES GOING ON, FIRE, FIRE HOUSES THAT NEED TO BE BOUGHT, AND FOR THI COUNCIL TO SPEND DOLLARS ON A LEGAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION ATTORNEY, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE ADMINISTRATION IS FIGHTING AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WORKS FOR BOTH OF US. SO HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. IT WILL COST US MONEY. AND IT DOES US NO GOOD TO SEE US FIGHT AND NOT GET ALONG. I DON'T LIKE A DIVIDED HOUSE. BUT THERE ARE TWO HOUSES. BUT WE HAVE TO GET ALONG. SO I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE IN THIS MATTER. I PASS THE GAV TO MR. DINGFELDER. THAT I BE ALLOWED TO TALK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT SOME IDEAS AND WAYS THAT WE CAN COMPROMISE TO BETTER THIS RELATIONSHIP AND TO BETTER THE SITUATION WITH THE CRB AS WE GO FORWARD. MR. MANISCALCO, I SAW YOUR HAND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST I WANT TO SAY I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. I SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN EXTENDING THE OLIVE BRANCH. TWO QUOTES COME TO MIND. ONE IS HEMINGWAY, WITH COURAGE IS THE GRACE UNDER PRESSURE. AND I THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT. ANOTHER IS BY BUTKOWSKI, IT'S NOT HOW YOU WALK THROUGH THE FIRE. I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE IN A POSITION NOW AS CHAIR, AND I BELIEVE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND I HOPE IT GOES WELL. AND I THINK TALKING CAN RESOLVE A LOT OF THINGS AND YOU ARE TAKING THAT STEP SO I AM COMMEND YOU ON THAT, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE AS WELL YOUR LEADERSHIP. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE BIG MISSING THINGS IN POLITICS TODAY BY AND LARGE IS THE ART O BRID BF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE IN TERMS OF THEIR POSITIONS. I THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOURSELF TO DO THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S A VERY THANKLESS JOB ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S POLITICAL ARENA THAT I THINK WE ALL NO ALL TOO WELL. BRIDGE BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT I.WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ENDED AT COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT WE WERE SO CLOSE AND YET SO FAR AWAY WITH LEGAL ISSUES THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT. BUT TH IS THE A VERY IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. AND WE ALSO AGREE THAT IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUES SHOULD BE DONE RIGHT AND PROPER WAY. AND I THINK YOU ARE LEADING IN THAT REGARD. I THINK THAT FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSIONS, CHAIRMAN GUDES, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP. I BELIEVE IN YOUR SINCERITY ON THIS ISSUE AND SO MANY OTHERS. WE ARE GOING TO GET A 7-0 VOTE, I BELIEVE, AND WE ARE GOING TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE EXECUTIVE, AND WE MAY GET SOMETHING WHERE COMPROMIS A MADE, BUT THE TRUTH IS, AS OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, WE AGREE ON 99% OF STUFF. THAT 1% IS THE POISON PILL. AND I DON'T WANT TO DETAIL IT A POISON PILL. AN ISSUE IN DISPUTE. THAT'S WHAT'S SO TROUBLING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING. I DON'T THINK -- THE MAIN ISSUE IS COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. THE PRINCIPLE OF CITY COUNCIL IN THE APPOINTMENTS IS NOT IN DISPUTE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN DISPUTE RIGHT? IT'S HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT, AND HOW WE GO ABOUT IN THE THAT REGARD. THERE'S OTHER ISSUES, AND I HAVE MADE MY OPINION KNOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING OUTSIDE ATTORNEY SUPPORTING THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BASIC ISSUE BUT ON THIS IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUE, I SUPPORT YOUR LEAD IN TRYING TO BUILD THIS IN A FURTHER COLLABORATIVE WAY, PARTICULARLY WITH MISCOMMUNICATIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S WATCH THIS REALLY IS ABOUT, IS MISCOMMUNICATION. I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THIS DEALS WITH ISSUES THAT I FEEL VERY, VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S ISSUES INVOLVING FIRST RESPONDERS RIGHT? OR WHETHER IT' ISSUES INVOLVING CIVIL RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS AND GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY. AND I THINK THAT IN THE END WE CAN GET AN ORDINANCE THAT CAN PASS 7 TO 0. IN FACT, I DON'T THINK, I KNOW -- I KNOW -- I KNOW. I KNOW ON MY END I WILL FIGHT FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK I WILL TAKE THAT AS A FAILURE ON MY END QUITE FRANKLY. THIS IS A GOOD ORDINANCE. I HAVE BEEN PROUD TO CONTRIBUTE A LOT OF THINGS TO IT INCLUDING IDEAS LIKE HAVING THE CRB REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL, HAVING COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CRB INCLUDING ATTENDANCE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND I THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. SO I JUST WANT TO ABSOLUTE YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, THEN I WILL GO WITH MR. MIRANDA. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. AND CONGRATS ON THE WAY YOU SAID THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP. I WON'T GET SOMEWHAT TOO INTO THE WEEDS. YOU FOUND OUT MONDAY LAST WEEK. I FOUND OUT THURSDAY. THURSDAY WAS THE FIRST I KNEW THAT THE MAYOR -- I WAS TOLD ON WEDNESY NIT THAT -- HAD A BRIEFING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT THE MAYOR WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. AND I ALSO WAS NOT AWARE UNTIL THURSDAY ABOUT THE CHARTER CHALLENGES. SO IF ALL OF YOU WERE BRIEFED, I GUESS I WAS THE ONLY ONE NOT. BUT I FELT BLIND-SIDED AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF BENNETT LAST NIGHT WHO I AGREE WITH YOU HAS BEEN A GREAT BROKER AND GETTING TO KNOW MARLEE, I AM SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH HER TOMORROW, AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT MY ISSUE ABOUT LAST WEEK WAS BEING BLIND-SIDED, AND ALSO BEING THREATENED WITH CHARTER CHALLENGES. I THOUGHT THA MONTHS AGO WE HAD ASKED THE ATTORNEYS, OUR ATTORNEYS AND THE CITY TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT, AND I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT BY THE LAWYERS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PLAYED OUT IN THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK WE SAW THIS MORNING WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT TOILET TO TAP WHICH I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST AND OTHER TIMES WHEN I FELT THE PRESENTATION WAS BIASED, I GOT EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT. DAY WAS PERFECTLY FINE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS AN OBJECTIVE PRESENTATION. AND THE REASON I GET EMOTIONAL IS BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT, AND DESERVES TO HAVE, THE TRUTH LAID OUT, AND IF WE KNOW THE TRUTH AND WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, THEN WE CAN BE HONEST AND TRUTHFUL AND TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC. I THINK THERE WERE SOME RED HERRINGS THAT WERE THROWN OUT IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE LATER IN THE DAY AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAILS OF IT, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE TO FIND SOME KIND OF GREAT SOLUTION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEETING. I TOLD EVERYBODY, I THOUGHT I WAS WALKING ON THURSDAY MORNING LAST WEEK TO APPROVE IT AND WALK AWAY. I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BIG CONVERSATION LIKE THAT. SO I PRAY FOR YOUND THE CITY STAFF THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY -- IT SOUND LIKE ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE RESOLUTION ON IN. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR IN REFERENCE TO HOW WE GET THESE THINGS IN THE 9th HOUR. I KNOW THINGS HAPPEN, THE CITY HAS TO DO SOME THINGS, BUT WE FIND OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE THROWN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND WE REALLY SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT. SO I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH THE MAYOR, AND I THINK ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FEELING THAT, AND AGAIN I DON'T KNOW -- I KNOW THAT MR. BENTT WAS A GUY WHO IS WAY AHEAD OF TIME ON THESE. >>ORLANDO GUDES, AND SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. AN AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE WAY MR. BENNETT WAS DOING THINGS. MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND MY FEELING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO GO MEET WITH THE MAYOR AND IRON THINGS OUT. I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T THINK -- YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN AND YOU ARE THE ONE IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE YOU WORK IT OUT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, COME BACK. IF YOU WANT SUPPORT, WE WILL GIVE YOU SUPPORT BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S NEEDED. YOU ARE THE CHAIRPERSON OF THIS COUNCIL. YOU ARE THE LEADER. IT'S YOUR TURN AT BAT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM A THEY WANT TO MEET WITH YOU, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DEROGATORY WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS OR SIX MEMBERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE CORRECT. BUT I DO THINGS IN ORDER. AND I WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT MY INTENT IS GOING INTO SPEAK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I DON'T WANTS THIS KIND OF CHAOS ON THIS BODY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE RIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS BODY KNOWS WHAT I PLAN TO DO. MR. SHELBY, LET ME GET TO MR. DINGFELDER AND THEN I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU. >>THE CLERK: IT'S RETED WHAT MI THINK IT'S A RELEVANT PART. I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE MATTERS WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS. BY YOU BEING DELEGATED SOMETHING TO DO BY CITY COUNCIL, IT MAY CREATE A SUNSHINE ISSUE. IT MAY CREATE SOMETHING OF A LEGAL COMPLICATION. THAT'S THE WAY MR. MIRANDA SUGGESTS. IF IT'S BY CONSENSUS VOTE OF COUNCIL AND WITHOUT A LEGAL VOTE AND YOUAVE I CAN CHECK WITH THAT THIS EVENING AND GET BACK TO YOU. BUT IN YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE SO WE HAVE EVERYONE IS SATISFIED AND HAVE FOUR VOTES. >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO TAKE OFF FOR A 4:00 POINT SO IF YOU WANT TO VOTE, LET'S VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A COUPLE WORDS. I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH THE LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SORT OF RIDICULED ABOUT THAT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF LEGISLATION IN WASHINGTON AND TALLAHASSEE LEGISLATION ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION OFTEN FAS SEVERAL YEARS IN TALLAHASSEE AND WASHINGTON. SO THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, THE FACT THAT IT TOOK A YEAR, SO BE IT. ONE THING THAT LUIS VIERA SAID LAST WEEK STUCK IN MY HEAD, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT MR. CHAIRMAN, HAD TO DO WITH ESCALATION. AND THIS THING HAS JUST GOTTEN ESCALATED WAY OUT OF CONTROL, YOU KNOW. AND NOW WE HAD A MAYOR AT A PRESS CONFERENCE WHO BASICALLY INSINUATING THAT EVEN IF WE ADOPTED THAT ORDINANCE, SHE'S GOING TO IGNORE IT? YOU KNOW, THAT -- WE MIGHT HAVE ESCALATED IT PERHAPS IN THEIR EYES AND THEY ARE ESCALATING IT EVEN FURTHER. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOU 100% TO GO TRY AND DEESCALATE THIS. BUT WE ARE GOING TO DEESCALATE IT WITH DIALOGUE. THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT WE ALL FEEL REAL STRONGLY ABOUT -- AND I'M SORRY MR. CITRO IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE FEELS STRONGLY AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY IT -- IS THE CLAUSE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS WE ARE THE EXCLUSIVE LEGISLATIVE BODY. THE MAYOR CAN SEND US IDEAS, SHE CAN SEND US PROPOSED LEGISLATION, ALL DAY LONG, AND THEY DO. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THEY THROW THAT LATERAL BACK TO US, IT'S YOU ARE A BALL TO RUN WITH; MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THAT IS A PROMISE THAT WE DO NOT GIVE UP IN ANY CONTEXT WHATSOEVER. AND WHHER NOT IT'S A POLICE ISSUE OR A SEWER ISSUE OR WHATEVER ISSUE IT IS, OKAY, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO DO WITH SOME PARTICULAR BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S OFF LIMITS AND THAT WE HAVE TO LEGISLATIVE COOPERATIVELY WITH ANOTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENT WORKS IN THIS COUNTRY. AND IT'S NOT THE WAY THAT THAT CHARTER READS. NOT THE WAY I READ IT. AND I PRACTICED LAW AS LONG AS ANYBODY UPSTAIRS. SO KNOI SOUND A LITTLE RILED UP, BUT THAT IS A CRITICAL USUAL YOU THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER, OKAY, BECAUSE NOT STANDING TOGETHER FOR US, IT'S NOT STANDING TOGETHER FOR POWER TRIP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE SEPARATION OF POWER. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT OF GOVERNMENT. THEY EXPECT THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY HAPPENS, AND OVER THERE IS WHERE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART HAPPENS, AND THEY CARRY OUT OUR LEGISLATION. SO, ANYWAY, I AM THRILLED YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WIL GOITH IT EITHER WAY, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO VOTE OR YOU DON'T WANT A VOTE. YOU HAVE MY VOTE EITHER WAY AND I WILL CARRY THE MOTION. IF YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MR. CHAIRMAN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASK THIS COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO GO TALK WITH THE MAYOR, ABOUT CONCERNS, ISSUES SURROUNDING THE CHARTER ISSUE, AND THE CRB, AND TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH INFORMATION AND A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WILL COME BACK AT A TIME WHEN YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE? >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM OUR CHAIRMAN, AS CHAIR PRO TEM. SECOND IS WHERE? MR. MANISCALCO. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE ME A ROLL CALL. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMEMBER CITRO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 6:00, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: 6:00, YES. [SOUNDING GAVEL]