♪ >> Mayor Muns: I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE PERSONNEL APPOINTMENT, THE BOARD OF ADSTMENT COUNCILMEMBER RRICCIARDELLI? >> Ricciardelli: COUNCIL -- COUNCILMEMBER GRADY AND I HAVE CONFERRED, AND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE MATTHEW MCSORLEY WHO IS CURRENTLY AN ALTERNATE TO THE INTERIM REGULAR POSITION AND FILL HIS ALTERNATE POSITION WITH MANSEUR. >> Grady: IS EK THE MOTION. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPOINT MR. MCSORLEY, IS THAT RIGHT? >> Ricciardelli: YES, MR. MCSORLEY FOR THE REGULAR, A E ALTERNATE. >> Mayor Muns: GOT IT. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND, JULIE. MOTION PASSES. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 2, PARKS AND RECREATION FIELD RESERVATION PROGRAM. PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, RON SMITH. AND DAVE ANGELES. >> I'M FILLING IN FOR DR. SMITH TODAY. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> I'M DAVE ANGELES, I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I ALSO HAVE BROUGHT HANNAH RUSHING, OUR ATHLETIC SUPERINTENDENT TO PROVIDE ME SOME SUPPORT IF NEEDED. SO WE'RE GOING TO COVER -- LET'S SEE, DO I NEED TO ADVANCE THIS? THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL BE COVERING THE ATHLETICS FIELD ALLOCATION AND RESERVATION PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT, SO OVERALL OUR FIELD PROGRAM IS BASED ON A USE MODEL FOCUSED ON LOCAL LEAD PLAY, MAINTAINING FIELD QUALITY, ECONOMIC IMPACT TOURNAMENTS TO COMPLIMENT LOCAL LEAD PLAY, PUBLIC RESIDENT AVAILABILITY, TO SURPLUS FIELDS, AND THEN OTHER TOURNAMENTS, CAMPS AND CLINIC OFFERINGS TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE. OVERALL THE ATHLETIC DIVISION CURRENTLY HAS FIFTEEN ATHLETIC SITES. MOST OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE MULTI-PURPOSE, WE DO HAVE A FEW THAT ARE A FEW ACTIVITY SPECIFIC, SO HERITAGE YARDS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE FEW, MOST OF THEM DO SUPPORT MULTI-USE FIELDS. AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE SEASON, ATHLETICS HAS BETWEEN 70 AND 100 FIELDS ESTABLISHED, AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR. THE MODEL MENTIONED IS GUIDED BY ORDINANCE, SO THE ELEMENTS I'LL BE TOUCHING ON THIS EVENING ARE OUR SPORT SEASONS, OUR ALLOCATION STRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS TO BE MET BY ORGANIZATIONS TO QUALIFY FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE FIELD ALLOCATION, AND THEN CASUAL SCHEDULING, WHICH ALLOWS FOR FIELD USE BY PUBLIC FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES. AND THEN THE ORDINANCE AND ALLOCATION PROCESS HAVE PROVEN TO BE FLEXIBLE IN ALLOWING PLANO TO BE NIMBLE AS SPORTS TRENDS HAVE SHIFTED OVER THE YEARS, SPORTS SUCH AS CRICKET, AND LA CROSSE, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR PROCESSUSFULLY, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, OU BASEBALL SPECIFIC NEEDS HAVE ALSO CONDENSED, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADJUST AS NEEDED THERE. AT A HIGH LEVEL, OUR FIELD USE IS STRUCTURED AROUND THREE SPORT SEASONS, SPRING, SUMMER AND FALL. THIS ESTABLISHES A KNOWN STRUCTURE FOR OUR LEAGUES WHICH PROVIDE CONSISTENCY FOR PLANNING, REGISTRATION, HIRING STAFF, RECRUITING COACHES, IN A DEFINED SEASON START AND STOP DATES. THIS ALSO PROVIDES PARKS AND VISIT PLANO THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE SPACE AVAILABILITY FOR TRNAMENTS WHICH BRING ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IS COMBINED WITH MINIMIZING IMPACTS TO THE LOCAL LEAGUE PLAY PRIORITY. NEXT WITHIN EACH SEASON, OUR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY PLAY TYPES, THIS GUIDES THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS AND OUR LEAGUE PARTNERS ON SPORTS PLAY PRIORITY WHEN EVALUATING ALLOCATION NEEDS. THIS ALSO ALLOWS US TO CONFIG OUR FIELD LAYOUTS ON OUR MULTI-PURPOSE TURF FIELDS TO MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF FIELDS AVAILABLE FOR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY PLAY. PLACEMENT MODIFICATIONLD SEASONALLY AND YEAR OVER YEAR TO REST OUR HIGH WEAR AREAS ON NATURAL TURF, SUCH AS SOCCER AND LA CROSSE GOAL MOUNTS, PITCH RUNUP, SOFTBALL FIELDS AND OTHER SIMILAR HIGH WARE SPACES. THE SEASON AND PRIMARY SECONDARY MODEL ALSO FACTOR IN NATURAL TURF RECOVERY AND GROWTH, AND OVERALL MAINTENANCE NEEDS. SUMMER IS REALLY DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR OUR RECTANGLE TURF FIELDS TO RECOVER FROM WARE EXPERIENCED IN THE IS SMALL AND SPRING SEASONS. OUR GROWING SEASON ACTUALLY ENDS BEFORE OUR FALL SEASON COMPLETES, AND THEN OUR SPRING SEASON ACTUALLY STARTS TO RUN IN FULL SWING PRIOR TO THE GROWING SEASON STARTING UP. SO REALLY, WE'RE PLAYING ON OUR FIELDS WHEN THEY ARE DORMANT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR, SO THE SUMMER IS VERY IMPORTANT. AFTER ACTIVITY TYPE FALLS WITHIN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY CLASSIFICATIONS, THE ALLOCATION CONSIDERATIONS MOVE TO DOES AN ORGANIZATION QUALIFY, AND ARE THEY IN A GOO STANDING WITH THE CITY OF PLANO? WE LOOK AT A GROUP'S PRIOR YEAR REGISTRATION AND ALLOCATION WITH PLANO PARKS, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE GROUP'S CURRENT REGISTRATION NUMBERS AND THEIR RESIDENT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE NUMBERS. ONCE THE REGISTRATION NUMBERS ARE RECEIVED, STAFF IS ABLE TO DETERMINE THE OVERALL FIELD QUANTITY AND TYPE THAT SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED FOR LEAGUE PLAY. FIELD ALLOCATION ASSIGNMENTS DO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FLEXIBILITY THAT IS NEEDED TO WORK THROUGH INCLEMENT WEATHER AND CANCELLATION DELAYS, SO WHEN W ALLOCATE OUR FS PARTNERS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER, DELAYS OR CANCELLATIONS, THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH FIELD SPACE ALLOCATED THEY CAN MAKE THOSE UP BEFORE THE END OF THE SEASON. ALSO, WANTED TO TOUCH A BIT MORE ON OUR MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD APPROACH. ON THE RIGHT IS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS, SO THIS IS OUR HIGH POINT PARK SOUTH, AND SO THE LINES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN WHITE, THOSE ARE OUR RECTANGLE FIELDS THAT WE PLACE IN THE SPRING AND FALL, AND IF YOU NOTICE, OVER THE OUTFIELDS OF BALL FIELDS, AND SO THOSE ARE OUT OF SERVICE. NOW, WHEN WE HIT OUR SUMMER MONTHS, THOSE ACTUALLY FLIP AND THEL THE BALL FIELDS ARE IN SERVICE AND THOSE RECTANGLE FIELDS ARE OUT OF SERVICE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE RUSSELL CREEK PARK WHERE WE HAVE SOCCER AND WE CONVERT THAT OVER TO CRICKET, SO TWO SOCCER FIELDS MAKE A SINGLE CRICKET FIELD, OR CRICKET PITCH. THE PURPOSE OF THE FIELD PHILOSOPHY ALLOWS PARKS TO SUPPORT A VARIETY OF SPORTS, ADAPT TO SHIFTING SPORTS TRENDS, AND GIVE FIELD LAYOUT FLEXIBILITY TO PROMOTE REST AND WEAR -- REST TO HIGH WEAR AREAS IN THE TURF. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE ORDINANCE AND ALLOCATION PROCESS HAVE PROVIDED -- HAVE PROVEN TO BE FLEXIBLE IN ALLOWING PLANO TO BE NIMBLE AS SPORTS TRENDS HAVE SHIFTED OVER THE YEARS. I'VE MENTIONED HOW WE'VE WORKED WITH INCORPORATING CRICKET AND LA CROSSE INTO OUR AS THE FLEXIBILITY REALLY COMES IN PLANO'S MODEL OF NOT ASSIGNING A SINGLE SPORTS PROVIDER IN ALLOWING NEW ORGANIZATIONS WHICH MEET OUR ESTABLISHED QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED IN -- TO BE INCLUDED IN OUR FIELD ALLOCATION. I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE MANY OF OUR NORTH TEXAS NEIGHBORS REALLY HAVE A SINGLE ENTITY THAT OFFERS YOUTH SPORTS AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH MODELS. ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES AT TIMES OF A SINGLE SPORTS PRIDERS THAT WN NEW SPORTS OR NEW TRENDS HAPPEN, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER AT TIMES TO INCORPORATE AND ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEEDS, I THINK OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR MODEL REALLY PROVIDES A LOT OF THAT ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND MAKES US SUCH A GREAT ORGANIZATION. LET'S SEE, SO A RECOGNIZED OPERATOR PARTICIPATES IN THE LEAGUE ALLOCATION BASED ON THEIR SPORTS OFFERINGS, SO FROM THERE, THEY HAVE THE FIELD SPACE IS ASSIGNED BASED ON REGISTRATION NUMBERS AND RESIDENT NUMBERS, AND THEN WITHIN THOSE ALLOCATED SPACE, GROUPS CAN OFFER THEIR TEAMS PRACTICE TIMES AND THEIR GAME TIMES. TO BECOME A RECOGNIZED SPORTS OPERATOR, THERE ARE ORDINANCE DOCTOR DRIVEN REQUIREMENTS. SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ACTUALLY ARE LISTED HERE, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, EXCLUSIVE SPORTS, BYLAWS IN HARMONY WITH THE PARK'S POLICIES REDUCED PARTICIPANT FEE POLICY, SAFETY OF OFFICIALS, OPEN TO ALL RESIDENTS OF PLANO AND THEY HAVE A NON-DISCRIMINATION POLICY. ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO LOOK AT IN PARKS, IF WE'RE PRESENTED WITH A PROPOSAL, IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OFFERING DOESN'T DUPLICATE AN EXISTING ORGANIZATION'S OFFERINGS. SO I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS IS WE HAVE THE PLANO SPORTS ASSOCIATION OFFERS YOUTH SOCCER AT A VERY ENTRY AND RECREATIONAL LEVEL, WHILE WE ALSO HAVE PLANO YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION THAT ACTUALLY OFFERS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SOCCER WHICH REALLY BRIDGES THAT GAP INT THE CLUB AND TRAVEL TEAMS. THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL EXAMPLE OF OUR FIELD ALLOCATIONS USING THE '22 FALL SEASON WHICH RUNS AUGUST THROUGH NOVEMBER. THE DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT SHOWS OUR RECTANGLE FIELD ALLOCATION AND THE GROUPS THAT USE THEM, SO WE HAD 98 FIELDS ESTABLISHED IN THE FALL, SO IF WE JUST ROUND-UP TO 100, THAT CAN KIND OF GIVE A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE QUANTITY OF FIELDS THAT EACH ONE OF THE USER GROUPS HADHIS FAL D THEN THE CHART ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE BREAK DOWN OF OUR ALLOCATED RECTANGLE FIELDS WHICH ARE LIGHT AND THEN UNLIGHTED. ALL RIGHT, BEFORE I JUMP INTO THIS SLIDE, I WANT TO NOTE, WE CAUGHT A CLERICAL ERROR ON PAGE 4 OF THE MEMO WE PROVIDED LAST WEEK. THE LAST SENTENCE ON PAGE 4 UNDER PRACTICE FIELD PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY GOT A LITTLE BIT TOO IN-DEPTH FOR YOU, AND THOSE WERE ACTUALLY BALL FIELD NUMBERS ONLY, SO WE HAD TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND MAKE SURE WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT OUR TOTAL PROGRAM HOURS, SO THIS -- THIS DIAGRAM IS ACCURATE WITH THAT, AND SO OVERALL, IN 2022, WE HAD ABOUT 28,000 HOURS OF PROGRAMMED ACTIVITY ON OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE BREAK DOWN WAS 71% FELL TO OUR LEAGUES, 25 TO TOURNAMENTS, AND 4% WERE PUBLIC -- PUBLIC RESERVATIONS AND THOSE PUBLIC RES IS OVATIONS COMPRISED JUST OVER 1200 HOURS, AND THEN LET'S SEE, AN EXAMPLE OF GROUPS THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE CASUAL SCHEDULING -- OKAY. I THINK I'M ONE SLIDE AHEAD OF YOU HERE. . LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE DO. SO THIS CHART SHOWS THE FIELDS MADE AVAILABLE FOR CASUAL SCHEDULING, SO WHAT YOU SEE IS OF THAT 1200 HOURS MENTIONED, WE HAD 45 THAT WAS 45%, SO WE HAD 55% OF WHAT WE MADE AVAILABLE NOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. NOW, I DO WANT TO MENTION THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALLOCATE OUR FIELDS TO OUR LEAGUE PARTNERS, SO IF WE ALLOCATE A CERTAIN FIELD OR A CERTAIN SITE TO A LEAGUE PARTNER AND THEY CHOOSE TO USE THAT FIELD ON A TUESDAY OR A WEDNESDAY EVERY SINGLE WEEK AT 6:30, IF WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC -- PERSON IN THE PUBLIC OR A GROUP INTERESTED IN RESERVING THAT FIELD, THAT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE. SO I DO WANT TO BE OPEN WITH THAT, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC RESERVATIONS ARE SURPLUS, BUT GROUPS THAT UTILIZEND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR SURPLUS FIELDS FOR RENTAL, OUR RESIDENTS, PRIVATE COACHES, REC TEAMS, CLUB AND TRAVEL TEAMS, HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS AND HOME SCHOOL ASSOCIATION. WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THE FIELD ALLOCATION AND CASUAL USE, BUT I REALLY NEED TO CIRCLE BACK AND EMPHASIZE OUR FIELD CONDITION AND MAINTENANCE. IT'S JUST A CRITICAL FACTOR FOR PROGRAMMING CONSIDERATIONS. WHEN A -- WHEN GROUPS USE OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS, THE EXPECTATION IS THEY'RE LEVEL AND THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED. THIS ALLOWS FOR CONSISTENT CONDITIONS FOR COMPETITION PLAY AND PRACTICE, AS WELL AS HELPS WITH PLAYER SAFETY. THE MODEL USED PROVIDES THE EXPECTED FIELD QUALITY AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MAINTENANCE, THE GROWING SEASON, AND REALLY MANAGED USE TO PREVENT OVERUSE. SO IF WE ALLOW OUR FIELDS TO DETERIORATE -- DETERIORATE, IT Y CREATES LESS DESIRABLE FIELD CONDITIONS AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS AND WHERE WE SEE POOR FIELD CONDITIONS, UNEVEN SURFACES, THIN TURF, LARGE AREAS AND SO ON. WORN TURF TAKES LONG TO RECOVER FROM FIELD CONDITION, IT CREATES ELITE SCHEDULING CHALLENGES AND ULTIMATELY REDUCES OUR FIELD AVAILABILITY. SO PROTECTING OUR TURF ASSET IS REALLY THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE MODEL AND ALLOWS FOR BETTER TURF RECOVERY AND ULTIMATELY ALLOWING FOR BETTER FIELD ACCESS. A HIGH LEVEL RECAP, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANO FIELD USE MODEL IS MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS TO MAXIMIZE INVENTORY, MANAGED USE TO PREVENT OVERUSE, SUPPORT LEAGUE PLAY, SUPPORT TOURNAMENT PLAY AND THEN ALLOW FOR PUBLIC ACCESS ON THE SURPLUS. OVERALL PARKS BELIEVES THE CURRENT PROGRAM APPROPRIATELY PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES. WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WE FEEL IT'S A WELL MANAGED PROGRAM. THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO BE NIMBLE AND ADJUST TO CHANGING ATHLETIC TRENDS FOR LEA. IT SUPPORTS TOURNAMENTS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT. IT GIVES RESIDENTS OPPORTUNITIES TO RESERVE FIELDS FOR CASUAL USE, AND IT LLOWS FOR CAMP AND CLINIC PROGRAMMING. AND I'D BE REMISS NOT TO END BY MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO BELIEVE IN CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. WE DO BELIEVE THAT RE-EVALUATION IS IMPORTANT. AND SO SOME AREAS THAT WE'VE REALLY BEEN FOCUSING ON RECENTLY HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY ASSESSING OUR NATURAL TURF MAINTENANCE PROCESSES, WE'RE ACTIVELY TRACKIN USE HOURS BY INDIVIDUAL FIELD AT THE SITES. WE REALLY WANT TO SEE HOW THAT WEAR AND THAT USE IS IMPACTING OUR CONDITIONS. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE HIGH WEAR AREAS ON OUR FIELDS AND WHAT SOME BETTER RECOVERY STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN HAVE, AND THEN REALLY ENHANCED DROP-IN AREAS. THE OTHER AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IS THE DROP-IN AREA IMPROVEMENT AND EDUCATION AROUND THOSE, SO HOW CAN WE BE MORE INFORMATIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY OF HOW THEY CAN RESERVE FIELDS, OR WHEN WE SEND THEM TO DROP IN AREAS, HOW CAN WE DO A BETTER JOB OF ENSURING THAT THOSE DROP-IN AREAS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION FOR THEIR PRACTICE NEEDS? SO YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE IT, AND AT THIS POINT, WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DAVE. MAYOR PRO TEM? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL'S HARD WORK ON THIS, ON OUR PARKS JUST IN GENERAL, AND I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THISSSUE, NOT JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TWO KIDS THAT PLAY SPORTS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES OUT THERE THAT SAY KIDS THAT ARE ACTIVE IN SPORTS IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN CRIME, IT HELPS THEM DO BETTER IN SCHOOL AND SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW, GETTING INVOLVED IN SPORTS AND HAVING A GREAT PLACE TO PLAY. SO JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED YOUR BREAKDOWN OF THE ALLOCATION TO THE DIFFERENT SPORTS, LITTLE LEAGUES, YEAH, RIGHT HERE, THAT'S GREAT. SO HAVE Y'ALL EVER DONE A STUDY TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE FIELDS, WHEN YOU ALLOCATE 43% TO PSA, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE SET ASIDE FOR A TUESDAY NIGHT AT 6:00, FOR THEIR FLAG FOOTBALL TEAM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY BEING USED BY THEM AND WHICH ONES MAY BE UNUSED BECAUSE A TEAM HAS JUST DECIDED NOT TO PRACTICE? >> ACTUALLY, I MAY SEEF HANNA CAN HELP ME OUT ON THAT ONE. I'LL SAY GIVING HER TIME TO ANSWER, LEADING INTO THAT, WE DO INTENTIONALLY PROVIDE THEM A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER ALLOCATION THAN WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK A PRIME EXAMPLE IS REALLY THE LAST TWO SEASONS OF THIS FALL WERE RAINED OUT. AND WE HAD TO TRY TO FIND WINDOWS OF TIME FOR THEM TO BE BACK ON THE FIELDS AND PLAY AND WHEN THEY CANCEL, TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT RESCHEDULING THEIRRACTICES, THEY'RE ONLY RESCHEDULING GAMES, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND SO, HANNA -- >> IF WE HAVEN'T STUDIED IT, IT'S OKAY TO TELL THEM WE HAVEN'T STUDIED IT. MAKING SURE WE'RE OKAY WITH AN ANSWER. >> SHE USED A SPREADSHEET. SHE MAY HAVE -- >> WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH ANSWERS. >> SO, NO, WE HAVE NOT, IN THE SHORT ANSWER. WE HAVE STARTED TRACKING THIS FISCAL YEAR, HOURS OF USE P FIELD SO WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE. LIKE DAVE MENTIONED, THE TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS ARE THE MOST POPULAR FOR OUR LEAGUES TO GET THEIR PRACTICES IN WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR GAMES ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. THAT POPULAR TIME-FRAME IS THAT TUESDAY/THURSDAY KIND OF THING BECAUSE YOU CAN GET TWO DAYS IN. >> Prince: THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. I WOULD LOVE IF YOU COULD STUDY THAT AND BECAUSE, AS YOU MENTIONED, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THERE ARE A HIGH LEVEL OF KIDS PLAYING FROM A VARIETY OF LEAGUES THAT CENTER IN PLANO THAT PLAY ALL OVER THE METROPLEX AND THEY COME HERE TO PRACTICE. AND I THINK WE POTENTIALLY ARE MISSING OUT AN OPPORTUNITY BY JUST FOCUSING ON THESE FEW LEAGUES WHEN WE'VE GOT SOME HIGH LEVEL OF ATHLETES THAT WANT TO PRACTICE AND IT'S GREAT FOR PLANO, IT'S GREAT FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S GREAT FOR EVERYBODY TO BE SEEN AS PLANO IS A PLACE TO PLAY THESE SPORTS. COMING FROM THE HOSPITAL BACKGROUNDWE HAVE THIS SIMILAR ISSUE WITH OPERATING ROOMS. PEOPLE GET BLOCK TIME, DOCTORS GET BLOCK TIME BUT THEY'RE ASKED TO GIVE THAT UP IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED THE SPACE. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN A HOSPITAL OPERATING ROOM BUT I THINK THE SAME IDEA COULD APPLY. IF A FIELD ISN'T GOING TO BE USED WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND YOU KNOW THAT, IT NEEDS TO BE REALLOCATED INTO THE ALLOCATION SO THAT SOMEBODY THAT CALLS UP AND SAYS, HEY, I NEED TO PRACTICE A PLACE FOR MY PRACTICE, WE DON'T JUST HAVE FIELDS SITTING EMPTY. ME OF THE FEEDBACK I HAVE GOTTEN FROM SOME OF THE COACHES THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN OVER THE YEARS IS, HEY, WE'RE TAX-PAYING CITIZENS AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO SEE -- AND YOU GAVE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ABOUT WHY THERE'S EMPTY FIELDS SITTING THERE BUT IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T USE THESE BEAUTIFUL FIELDS THAT THEY'RE PAYING TAX MONEY TO MAKE LOOK BEAUTIFUL. AND SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE MORE OF A BALANCE OF, OKAY, WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY CAN'T PRACTICE ON THIS FIELD BUT THEN WHEN THEY CALL THE RESERVATION DESK AND THEY SAY, OH, WE DON'T HAVE ONE FOR YOU, THEN WE'VE GIVEN THEM NO OPTIONS. SO I THINK THAT'S HARD FOR SOME OF THESE COACHES TO SWALLOW, SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION THERE. SO AND THEN JUST ON YOUR -- YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THE EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT TURF AND YOU SAID SOME OF THEM ARE OFF FOR TWO WHOLE SEASONS. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT US TO HAVE THE HIGHEST AND BEST FIELDS. HAS THAT BEEN STUDIED TO SEE IFHAT COULD BE SHRUNK A LITTLE BIT SO MAYBE WE COULD GET ANOTHER MONTH, ANOTHER ON EACH END SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME MORE FIELDS IN USE? >> WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR EXISTING FIELD, OUR ATHLETIC SITE STRUCTURE. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN PLANO IS ALSO ONE OF OUR BLESSINGS IS THAT WE HAVE 15 SITES. AND SO OUR HOPE OVER TIME IS TO BE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THEATELLITE SITES WITH FUTURE RENOVATIONS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH OUR JACK CARTER PARK RENOVATION, WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT THAT AND WHAT THAT LAYOUT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS, IF WE CAN CONSOLIDATE CERTAIN PARKS WHEN WE RENOVATE, WHEN WE BRING NEW LOCATIONS ONLINE, THAT WOULD FREE UP THE SATELLITE SITES FOR SOME OTHER THINGS. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CHANGE OF SPORTS AND THE DEMAND IS NOT STAGNANT. IT CHANGES AND IT MORPHS CONSTANTLY. >>rince: I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT WHEN YOU DO THAT STUDY IF MAYBE WE INVITE IN SOME OF THESE NEW AND UPCOMING -- I KNOW WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT JUST SOME OF THESE NEW AND UPCOMING LEADERS OF SOME OF THESE COACHES THAT ARE IN THESE UPCOMING ORGANIZATIONS, SOME OF THESE SELECT LEAGUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT GET THESE HUGE ALLOCATIONS BUT GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE HAD. I DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE TO LEAVE PLANO AND GO, YOU KNOW, TO OTHER CITIES WH TIR TEAMS. SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YEP. >> Mayor Muns: SHELBY. >> Williams: THANK YOU, DAVE. HELLO AGAIN, HANNA. SO MY DAUGHTER RECENTLY WENT THROUGH -- MY LITTLE ONE WENT THROUGH A SEASON OF SOCCER WHEREIN WE DECIDED THAT MAYBE SHE WOULD BE BETTER SUITED TOWARD GYMNASTICS. BUT SHE HAD HER GAMES AT THE ARCH GATE FIELDS AND HER TEAM -- I MEAN, THEY'RE 5 AND 6 YEARS OLD. IT'S NOT HIGHLY COMPETITIVE BUT HER TEAM WAS UNABLE TO FIND PLACES TO PRACTICE SO WE SE. SO IT STRUCK ME IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT 4% OF THE FIELD TIME IS ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC RENTAL. WHAT'S THE DEMAND BACKLOG FOR THAT VERSUS THE DEMAND BACKLOG FOR LEAGUE USE? IT SEEMS IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE BUT IF THE LEAGUES ARE POUNDING DOWN THE DOORS FOR IT AND WE'RE ONLY OCCASIONALLY GETTING REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC USE THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE. >> SO THE LEAGUE ALLOCATIONS DO ACCOUNT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SCHEDE PRACTES FOR THEIR TEAMS. NOW, THE REALITY IS BASED ON REGISTRATION NUMBERS AND DEMAND, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE. SO AS FAR AS PUBLIC RESERVATION OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT WE ARE OPENING UP AREN'T USED TO FULLY, SO ONLY 50% OF WHAT WE OPEN UP ARE BEING UTILIZED CURRENTLY. BUT WITH THAT I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IF IT'S A TUESDAY, THUDA THOSE REALLY ARE POPULAR TIMES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. I'LL BE HONEST AND SAY THAT, YEAH, THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A CHALLENGE FINDING ONE OF OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE. >> Williams: UNDERSTANDING THE NEED TO REST AN AREA FOR IT TO HAVE A WELL-MAINTAINED FIELD, WHAT PERCENTAGE ROUGHLY OF OUR FIELDS ARE OFFLINE DURING A GIVEN SEASON VERSUS HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE FOR RENTING? >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION THAT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS POINT, BUT WE CAN WORK ON THAT RESPONSE. >> Williams: THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. TO MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE'S POINT WHEN A FIELD -- LET'S SAY JUST A FIELD IS OFFLINE FOR A WHOLE SEASON OR WHOLE YEAR TO REST THE LAND, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT OBVIOUS FOR PEOPLE, CITIZENS LOOKING AT IT SO THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S OFFLINE, IT'S NOT WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU HAVE NOTHING AVAILABLE? THERE'S TWO WHOLE FIELDS RIGHT HERE WITH NOBODY ON THEM. >> I THINK I MAYBE MISUNDERSTD YR QUESTION. I WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST PART A MAJORITY OF OUR FIELDS ARE ALLOCATED OR THEY ARE SET UP. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NECESSARILY AVAILABLE FOR A SPECIFIC DESIRED TIME. AND I'LL SAY THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS OF LETTING A FIELD REST IS SOMETIMES NOT LINING IT AND NOT PUTTING GOALS ON IT, BECAUSE GOALS REALLY ARE A MAGNET. AND SO THAT'S REALLY IN OUR LEAVE-OUT AREAS, WE STARTED TO COLOR OUR GOALS RED SO PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE FREE PLAY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED TO LINE THEM AS WELL. ONE OF THE THOUGHTS ON LINING WAS I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT PLAYS SOCCER AND WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WAS I WANTED TO GO WORK ON CORNER THROWS OR CORNER KICKS AND THROW-INS AND THERE WERE NO LINES FOR HER AND WE WEREN'T OFFERING LINES. WE'RE ASKING OUR RESIDENTS, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO USE LINES, THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN GO IS OUR COMPETITION FIELDS. WE STARTED TO LINE A LOT OF OUR DROP-IN AREAS. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> Williams: THANKS. YEAH, I THINK HERE LISTENING TO MAYOR PRO TEM SPEAK ABOUT HER PERSON EXPERIENCES AND CONVERSATIONS, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE STRUCTURE SO THAT IF LEAGUES ARE GOING TO RESERVE FIELDS FOR PRACTICE BUT NOT ACTUALLY USE THEM THAT THEY INCUR SOME SORT OF PENALTY FOR IT OR AT LEAST A LACK OF INCENTIVE NEXT TIME SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO CANCEL PRACTICE THAT THEY ALERT SOMEBODY AND MAKE THE FIELD AVAILABLE AND MAKE IT EASY ENOUGH FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO LOOK FOR VACANCIES. ORE ALERTED EVEN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL GOOD QUESTIONS AND GENERALLY AIMED AT ORGANIZED LEAGUES AND ORGANIZED PLAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WE HAVE CITIZENS, RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'VE GOT KIDS OR WHATEVER AND THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OR KNOW THEY CAN MAKE A RESERVATION OR SOMETHING. IN ONE OF YOUR CHARTS I NOTICED I THINK YOU SAID WHEN WE MAKE IT AVAILLE FOR- LET'S CALL IT REGULAR RESIDENTS NON-ORGANIZED GROUPS, WE HAD ONLY 45 OR 48% ARE BEING UTILIZED AND SO THERE'S ABOUT -- I THINK 55% NOT BEING RESERVED. WHAT CAN WE DO IF, LET'S SAY A FATHER, HE'S GOT A COUPLE OF KIDS AND THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND, THEY KNOW THERE'S A PARK HERE AND IT'S REALLY NICE LOOKING, THE TURF LOOKS GREAT AND THEY PULL IN, THEY WANT TO GET OUT AND THROW THE BASEBALL AROUND OR DO SOME BATTING PRACTICE WHAVER. IOULDOPE THA WE DON'T, IF THE FIELD IS NOT BEING USED, THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE GOING OVER AND WE SHOO THEM AWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A PAID OR RESERVED, YOU KNOW, GROUP. ARE WE WORKING WITH THAT SITUATION? DOES THAT NOT HAPPEN? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR REGULAR NON-PARTICIPATING RESIDENTS AND PROFESSIONAL -- WELL, IN ORGANIZED SPORTS, LET'S SAY, BE ABLE TO ALSO UTILIZE OUR FACILITIES. AND THEN MAYBE WE EDUCATE THEM, OH, BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE PROCESS. BUT GO AHEAD, THE FIELD IS NOT BEING USED RIGHT NOW. JOY IT WITH YOUR KIDS AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. >> I WILL SAY WE HAVE STAFF THAT DO GO AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT FIELDS ARE BEING USED AS PROGRAMMED AND AS SCHEDULED. THEY DO USE DISCRETION, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IF SOMEONE IS ON A FIELD AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RESTING OR QUIET, THEY DO GO AND THEY ASK THEM -- THEY'LL EDUCATE THEM ON THE PROCESS AND THEY'LL ASK THEM TO MAYBE FIND ANOTHER LOCATION. AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE LAST YEAR IS REALLY -- ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF THE PHOTOS HERE, OUR FIELD STAFF NOW HAVE BUSINESS CARDS WITH QR CODES AND ONE SIDE OF THE CARD IS A QR CODE THAT TAKES THEM DIRECTLY TO OUR RESERVATION PROCESS TO HELP EDUCATE THEM THERE. AND THEN THE SECOND SIDE HAS MULTIPLE QR CODES, ONE ACTUALLY TAKES YOU TO A LINK THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE ATHLETIC SITES WITH THE DROP-IN AREAS AT THOSE SITES THAT THEY CAN USE AT ANY TIME. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ACTUALLY TAKES THEM TO A LINK THAT SHOWS WHERE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS ARE THAT ARE OPTIONS AS WELL. BUT WE DO TRY TO USE DISCRETION. THE TRICKY PART IS IF YOU WALK OUT AND THERE'S SIX GROUPS ON A FIELD, ONCE YOU START ASKING ONE GROUP AND ONE GROUP COULD BE A PRIVATE COACHING SESSION OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH-INTENSITY USE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A PARENT AND CHILD MAYBE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE CASUAL USE, ONCE YOU ASK ONE TO LEAVE, IT'S REALLY FOR CONSISTENCY-WISE WE'RE REQUESTING ALL OF THEM. AND WE GENERALLY POINT THEM TO OUR DROP-IN AREAS AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. >> Smith: GOOD. I THINK THE BUSESS CARD WITH THE GRAPH THEY CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT IS REALLY GOOD. I WANT TO BE CERTAIN IN OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES WHEN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE ARE WELCOME AND ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND OPEN TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN LEAGUE SPORTS OR WHATEVER. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THAT THEY HAVE SOME DISCRETION AND AT THE SAME TIME WHEN IT HAPPENS WE CAN EDUCATE THE PARENTS TO GET INVOLVED MORE IN AN ORGANIZED WAY WITH OUR PARKS AND REC FOLKS. THANK YOU. GOOD ANSWER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: OUR NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST POLICY, INCLUDING THE USE OF ZOOM. SO WE CAME -- WE ASKED THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA AND WE OBVIOUSLY HEARD LOTS OF ISSUES THAT WE COULD USE OR IDEAS THAT WE COULD USE TO ADJUST THE WAY WE HANDLE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA THAT WOULD WORK OR, MARK, IF YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS. >> Israelson: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS WAS ACTUALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA BY COUNCILMAN GRADY AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TOO SO I FEEL IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY T STATE THEIR PREFERENCE. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> Grady: COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN THE AREA OF PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST USED FOR ALL KINDS OF MULTIPLE PURPOSES AT PROBABLY ARE LESS THAN INFORMATION THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO USE TO OPERATE ON AND SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO IT. I FEEL IF IT IS APPLICABLE UNDERNEATH THE TEXAS STATUTES THAT THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST BE MOVED TO A SEPARATE MEETING BEFORE OTHER MEETINGS. THAT IT NOT BE TELEVISED AND THAT THOSE THAT ARE ON -- THOSE THAT HAVE USED ZOOM IN THE PAST WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBER TO MAKE THEIR STATEMENTS PUBLIC. I FEEL THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US INFORMATION FOR WHICH WE NEED TO EXPLORE AND TALK ABOUT, MAKE DETERMINATIONS ON. I DON'T FEEL IT IS AS APPROPRIATE WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS OR ALL OVER THE METROPLEX CALLING IN ON ZOOM TO MAKE THEIR OWN COMMENTS. IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS TO THEIR CITY GOVERNANCE, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US. SO I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE IT TO A SEPARATE MEETING BEFORE OUR START TIME AT 5:00. MAYBE IT STARTS AT:30. RUNS FOR HALF AN HOUR. IT DOES NOT USE ZOOM. THEY NEED TO BE HERE PRESENT AND WE DON'T TELEVISE IT. >> Tu: I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO WHAT COUNCILMAN GRADY HAD ALREADY SAID. I CONCUR WITH EVERY WORD THAT HE SAID. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT FOR ALL OF US WHO BELIEVE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PLANO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO -- YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS EACH OTHER EYE TO EYE, FACE TO FACE. THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK THE PANDEMIC MADE US A LITTLE BIT LAZY BECAUSE NOW WE FOUND A COOL WAY OF INTERACTING WITHOUT HAVING TO SEE EACH OTHER. AND I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT APPROPRIATE WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH CITY OF PLANO BUSINESS. SO I FULLY CONCUR WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN GRADY IS PROPOSING AND I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. >> Mayor Muns: ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. >> Smith: THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE THING -- I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN EVERYBODY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND SHARE INFORMATION, GIVE THOUGHTS OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL, AND IT AFFECTS THINGS THAT WE AS A COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF PLANO HAVE CONTROL OVER. I DON'T KNOW IF NECESSARILY WE NEED TO DO AN EARLIER MEETING OR WHATEVER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TOEE IT STIPULATED THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST SHOULD BE ON ITEMS OF CITY BUSINESS OR RELATING TO THINGS THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, HAVE CONTROL OVER AND COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO. WE DON'T WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN OR IRVING, OR WHOEVER ELSE, AS COUNCILMAN GRADY HAS ALLUDED TO. IF WE COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS RESTRICTED TO THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO BECAUSE THAT IS WHO WE SERVE. WITH THOSE TWO THINGS IN MIND, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO IN. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. >> Williams: A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. WHILE I FULLY AGREE THAT COMMENTS SHOULD PERTAIN TO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY, THERE ARE MANY LEGITIMATE STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR CITY WHO ARE NOT ACTUAL RESIDENTS AND IT MIGHT BE ARGUED THAT THEY WOULD MORE APPROPRIATE BE ADDRESSING SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS RATHER THAN COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST BUT THEY STILL MAY HAVE LEGITIMATE COMMENTS THAT PERTAIN TO CITY BUSINESS, WHILE THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTS. I ALSO HAVE CONCERN -- I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO A SPECIAL MEETING BUT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A 4:30 START TIME. WE ALL SIGNED UP FOR THIS BUT FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON GETTING HERE BY 4:30 CAN BE A REAL CHALLENGE, NOT ONLY IS IT STILL AT THE TAIL-END OF THE WORKDAY BUT KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF SCHOOL, ALL SORTS OF STUFF IS GOING ON AT THAT TIME THAT COULD MAKE IT DIFCU FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, TO BE FAIR, TO GET HERE IN ORDER TO BE HEARD DIRECTLY IN-PERSON BY THEIR COUNCIL. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST SHOULD RELATE TO PLANO BUSINESS. COMMENTS SHOULD BE GERMANE TO PLANO. I'M ALSO OKAY WITH N TELEVISING COMMENTS. THE POINT IS TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION SO I DON'T THINK THAT TELEVISING IS NECESSARY FOR THAT. ONE THING THAT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH IS I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP ZOOM AVAILABILITY OF COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM BUT I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL WE SHOULD BE CONSTANTLY STRIVING TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, NOT LESS. WHEN ZOOM WENT OFFLINE DUE TO THE EXPIRATION OF THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER AT THE END O THE PANDEMIC, I REMEMBER WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE, I CAN'T ADDRESS THE COUNCI ON ZOOM ANYMORE? AND WE WORKED HARD TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHERE AS LONG AS PERSONSWHO WERE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL HAD THEIR CAMERA ON, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL VIA ZOOM. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR RESIDENTS REALLY WANT THE ABILITY TO DO AND IN 2022 I THINK THAT BEING ACCESSIBLE MEANS ALLOWING COMMENT ON ZOOM. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE POINTS ARE COMING FROM, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT OPTION OPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND I ALSO AGREE THAT A 4:30 START TIME COULD BE TOO EARLY FOR MANY RESIDENTS. THEY MAY HAVE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AS WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT LATELY, WHETHER IT'S A REQUEST FOR A CERTAIN ORDINANCE OR TO REPEAL A CERTAIN ORDINANCE AND THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THERE. MAYBE IF IT WAS SOMETIME MORE LIKE 6:30, THAT MIGHT BE MORE AMENABLE TO RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. >> Mayor Muns: MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M SORRY. >> Prince: I ACTUALLY AGREE MEMBER RICCIARDEI SA SO ICIL DID ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT A 4:30 START TIME, JUST BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET HERE AT THAT TIME. I WAS ONE OF THE BIG ADVOCATES FOR ZOOM BECAUSE IT MAKES MORE ACCESSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM YOUNG CHILDREN OR OTHER THINGS TO GET HERE AND ADDRESS US. BUT I DO BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO APPLY TO PLANO BUSINESSES AND I AM OKAY -- PLANO BUSINESS AND I AM GOOD WITH IT NOT BEING TELEVISED, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PART. THOSE TWOIECES I AM SUPPORTIVE OF. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. >> Grady: LET ME OFFER A SUGGESTION. IF THE 4:30 START TIME IS A HEARTBURN FOR INDIVIDUALS, THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING SOMEWHERE DURING THE MONTH FOR COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST AND IT BE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETINGS AND IT COULD BE ON A DIFFERENT NIGHT OR IT COULD BE JUST SCHEDULED ONCE A MONTH WHEN THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO MEET AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT FOR THAT ONCE A MONTH SO THAT WE HAVE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT COULD B. >> Mayor Muns: WE CAN DEFINITELY JUST DO IT ONCE A MONTH. I MEAN, WE COULD SCHEDULE IT FOR JUST ONCE A MONTH FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMER. >> Holmer: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE ARE ALSO ACCESSIBLE BY PHONE AND BY E-MAIL AND BY APPOINTMENT. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET DIRECTLY IN TOUCH WITH US AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT WE'RE ALL VERY ACCESSIBLE. I PERSONALLY AM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE ZOOM, KPING THAT AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS. I MEAN, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OTHER WAYS TO REACH OUT TO US. I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS OUTSIDE OF THE RESIDENTS. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I'M MOSTLY IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS SAID. >> Israelson: COUNCIL, IN SEEKING CLARITY -- [ LAUGHTER ] IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS AROUND TWO ELEMENTS. ONE IS HAVING A SEPARATE MEETING AND TWO IS NOT TELEVISING IT. I SENSE THAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR WAY T MAKE IT BOTH CONVENIENT FOR THE CITIZENS AND EASY FOR COUNCIL ATTENDANTS. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE ASPECT OF 6:30 VERSUS 4:30. A RECOMMENDATION MIGHT SIMPLY BE ONE TIME A MONTH HAVING A SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING THAT IS NOT TELEVISED AT 6:30 IN THE EVENING. 6:00 OR 6:30 IN THE EVENING FOR COUNCIL TO HR CMENT OF PUBLIC INTEREST. BUT TO HAVE IT ON THE SAME DAY IS STILL A QUESTION I HAVE AND ZOOM STILL SEEMS TO BE SPLIT AMONG THE COUNCIL. >> Mayor Muns: IF WE DID DO THAT, WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO START EARLIER FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO THOSE MIGHT OCCUR IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH IT. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Muns: WHAT IF IT AND WE STARTED -- WE MEETING ADJOURNED? >> WHAT TIME? >> Mayor Muns: AS SOON AS THE MEETING IS OVER. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. THEN -- >> Tu: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, WITH REGARD TO ZOOM. NOW, IS THE CITY GOING TO BE -- LET'S JUST HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW ZOOM, IS THE CITY GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTROLLING THE ZOOM SO THAIT CANNOT BE RECORDED? ULTIMATELY WE DON'T WANT IT TELEVISED SO WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE -- >> Israelson: IT IS OUR ZOOM LINK TO WE CONTROL WHETHER IT'S RECORDED AND WE CONTROL WHO IS ACTUALLY BEING PRESENTED AND CAN SHUT THAT OFF. >> Tu: AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS I ALSO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE IDEA IS IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST, WE CAN MAKE IT ALL ZOOM AS A WAY OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE PELE ACCESSIBLE TO -- >> Israelson: I'LL DEFER TO OUR ATTORNEY BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN-PERSON IN THE SAME LOCATION IN ORDER TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THE ENTIRE ASPECT ZOOM. I'M LOOKING AT HER AND SHE'S NODDING HER HEAD SO I'M LEGAL. >> Tu: I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS, NOT THE COUNCIL MEMBER BUT RATHER THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST COULD BE JUST OPEN. >> Israelson: ALL CITIZENS BE A ZOOM AND COUNCIL IN-PERSON? I THINK THAT'S -- >> Tu: THAT MAY BE AN OPTION. >> Israelson: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REQUIRED THAT THEY BE IN PERSON BUT I THINK COUNCIL HAS TO BE IN PERSON. PAIGE IS THINKING RIGHT NOW SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE QUESTION ON THE SPECIAL MEETING SIDE OF THINGS. ON THE COUNCIL MEETING DAY, IT SEEMS THAT THE MOST LOGICAL ASPECT WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ONCE A MONTH ON A COUNCIL DAY THAT IT HAPPEN BEFORE WE START OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. I THINK FOR CONTINUITY, FM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE BEFORE. BUT 4:30 SEEMED TO BE AN ISSUE. >> COULD WE NOT PUSH IT BACK TO 5:00 AND THAT CAUSES US TO HAVE TO PUSH SOME OF OUR STUFF AT THE END? >> Israelson: ABSOLUTELY. WE COULD START IT AT 5:00 AND WE COULD DO THAT FOR HALF AN HOUR AND OUR REGULAR MEETINGS WOULD BEGIN AT 5:30 ON THAT DAY. OUR ATTORNEY IS FEVERISHLY LOOKING THROUGH -- >> WE CAN SAY OUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM 5:00 TO 5:30 AND WE CAN SHUT IT OFF. WE GET AS MUCH AS WE GET DONE. >> Mayor Muns: CAN WE DO THE ONCE A MONTH? IS EVERYBDY OKAY WITH ONCE A MONTH? >> Israelson: I'M SEEING HEAD NODS. >> Prince: WE DON'T ALSO HAVE TO ALLOW AS MUCH TIME AS WE CURRENTLY DO, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> Israelson: COUNCIL -- >> Grady: I THINK WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF WE DID IT AT 5:00, THAT WE COULD ADJUST WHAT IS IN THE PRELIM BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING LATER IN THE MONTH SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT -- >> Israelson: I KNOW WHO WOULD TAKE THAT DIRECTION VERY SERIOUSLY. [LAUGHTER] >> Mor Muns: ANTHONY. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I THINK A NEW ASPECT HAS JUST BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY IF WE MOVE TO ONCE A MONTH, YOU KNOW, THE DEMAND FOR THAT SPOT COULD BE MORE THAN IT IS THAN WHEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES PER MONTH. I DON'T WANT FO GO IN A DIRECTION WHERE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE GENUINE CONCERNS ABOUT CITY BUSINESS -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO HEAR FROM THEM. I WOULD PREFER THAT WHATEVER WE DO THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE THREE MIS LEGITIMATE CITY BUSINESS TO ADDRESS US FOR. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IT'S BASED ON CASELOAD, REALLY IS ALL. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. SORRY. SORRY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> Williams: WE ALREADY POST IN OUR AGENDA THAT COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST WILL BE TIME BOXED TO 30 MINUTES. SO I DON'T SEE ALLOWING A BOX OF 30 MINUTES O IF WE HAVE TO, ABBREVIATING IT TO 20. BUT HAVING IT EVERY MEETING, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HURT. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> Williams: INSTEAD OF JUST ONCE A MONTH. THAT WOULD PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS TO SPEAK AS WELL. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> Tu: MAYOR, IF I MAY. >> Mayor Muns: GO AHEAD. >> Tu: I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THIS WITH REGARD TO ZOOM. I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER MAKING EXCEPTIONS IN CASES WHERE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED OR MENTALLY CHALLENGED AND ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TO A FACE-TO-FACE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. >> WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE THAT. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DECIDE? >> Tu: IF WE CANNOT MAKE THAT EXCEPTION, THEN I AM FULLY FOR PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. BUT FOR THE FACT FOR THE PANDEMIC WE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THIS. EVEN FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I MEAN, WE CAN APPEAR BY ZOOM BUT WE'RE HE BECAUSE WE CARE AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD. SO I'M STILL VERY, VERY ADAMANT ABOUT HAVING IN PERSON, IF WE CAN. >> Israelson: WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT MONDAY. WE'LL BRING THIS BACK A LITTLE BIT BUT WHAT WE'LL BRING BACK IS A PROPOSAL. WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR PAIGE AND I TO DO RESEARCH ON IT. AS IT STANDS, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A CONSENSUS PERSPECTIVE, IS A 5:00 START FOR A SPECIAL MEETING TO ALLOW COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST, NON-TELEVISED, EVERY MEETING, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON NOW. WE'LL DO SOME HOMEWORK AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING COMPORTS WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. >> Mayor Muns: WE'RE GOING TO SKIP 4 AND 5, CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. >> Israelson: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'LL BE PULLING ITEM B AND BRINGING THAT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS. >> Grady: MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR A FUTURE AGENDA. I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE DEFINITION OR MORE INFORMATION ON AN APPLICATION THAT WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED OR FILLED OUT FOR $1.9 MILLION FOR FUNDING, BECAUSE I STILL HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON THAT. I'M A BIT CONCERNED, AS WE GET INTO THE HOLIDAYS THAT WE AREN'T DISTRIBUTING ANYTHING, ANY FUNDING INTO THE FIELD WHERE IT'S REALLY NEEDED, SO I HAVE A CONCERN ON THAT. AND THE SECOND ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IS THE APPLICATION AND USE OF HOME FUNDS. >> ALSO SECONDED . >> Israelson: FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THOSE ON THERE. WE DO HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR RAPID REHOUSING AND FOR HOMELESSNESS ASSISTANCE, SO THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW OVER AND ABOVE THE $1.9 MILLION, SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. >> Grady: IF WE COULD GET A NOTATION ON THAT, WE BEING THE HOMELESSNESS COALITION, SO WE CAN BROADCAST IT OUT TO THE NONPROFITS. IT CAME UP IN A MEETING WHEREW Y FUNDING AVAILABLE. >> Israelson: HAPPY TO DO IT. >> Grady: OKAY. >> Mayor Muns: RECESS OF ONE MINUTE. [LAUGHTER] WHILE I TURN THE PAGE. I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAS CONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR PASTOR KELVIN FOLEY WITH MESSIAH LUT NORTH DALLAS COMMUNITY BIBLE FELLOWSHIP. PLEASE RISE. >> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE YOU GLORY TONIGHT. WE HONOR YOU, WE PRAISE YOU DEAR GOD AND LORD. IN THE MIDST OF LIFTING YOU UP WE'RE JUST PRAYING FOR YOUR DIVINE BLESSING OVER THIS ETING AS WELL AS THIS INCREDIBLE CITY OF PLANO, DEAR GOD, AND WHETHER WE'RE WORKING WITH LAWS OR REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF THE RESIDENTS, BUDGETS, REGARDLESS OF IT ALL, LORD GOD WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR DIVINE WISDOM. WE LOVE YOU AND WE PRAISE YOU, IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN US IN RECITING THE EDGE OF ALLEGNCEND THE TEXAS FLAG. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> TEXAS FLAG. [HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG] >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. BE SEATED, PLEASE. [TAKING PICTURES] >> Mayor Muns: COMMENTS OF PUIC INTEREST. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. JUST A REMINDER, PLEASE DO NOT YELL OR TOUCH THE MICROPHONE. >> Mayor Muns: LET ME SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK. SO THE CITY OF PLANO AND THIS COUNCIL TAKE THEPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS VERY SERIOUSLY. WE ALWAYS WELCOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. WE TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR ROLE AS THE CITY OF GOVERNMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE IN RESPECTING OUR CITIZENS' TIME AND TAXPAYERS' RESOURCES. WE STRIVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES WITH EXCELLENCE AND FOCUS OUR AGENDA ON CITY BUSINESS AND IN RETURN WE ASK THAT THOSE THAT COME BEFORE US PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU DO NOT DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL DIRECTLY. THANK YOU. >> THE FIRST SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS ALEXANDER STRINGER. >> Mayor Muns: COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM? >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ALEXANDER STRINGER FROM 8001 SOUTH I-35 AUSTIN, TEXAS. I HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVE IN THE EA. I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME CITY ISSUES. MAYOR MUNS, OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL, OKAY? WE WERE A GREAT NATION AND UNFORTUNATELY -- [ ♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ ] SORRY ABOUT THAT. UNFORTUNATELY UNFORTUNATELY YOU KNOW, WE HAVE JOE BIDEN, WE HAVE A FULL-BLOWN COMMUNIST IN OFFICE. I MISS DONALD TRUMP, I MISS AMERICA BEING GREAT SO I PREPARED A LITTLE SONG ABOUT THE GREATEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME. DONALD TRUMP IS GREAT. HE'S FIGHTING THE DEE STATE. DONALD TRUMP IS A MAN OF GOD. HE ONLY LOST BECAUSE OF VOTER FRAUD. HE'S MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. DONALD TRUMP, HE FIGHTS THE GLOBALISTS. DONALD TRUMP, HE FIGHTS THE COMMUNISTS. DONALD TRUMP WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE. DONALD TRUMP GOES AFTER ALL THE PEDOPHILES. DONALD TRUMP IS A PHENOMENON THAT'S BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS QANON. DONALD TRUMP IS LIVING THE DREAM. DO YOU KNOW HE MADE THE COVID VACCINE? DONALD TRUMP, HE IS THE GOAT. KAMALA HARRIS LIKES OBJECTS DOWN THE THROAT. [COMMENTS OFFLINE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEJANDRO STEIN. >> YO, WHAT UP, COUNCIL? IT'S ME. THEY CALL ME ALEJANDRO STEIN BUT I'M FORMERLY ALEJANDRO STEIN. BUT NOW I GO BY YA AND I REPRESENT THE NEW KANYE WEST 2024 PRESIDENTIAL RUN. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME TO BE HERE TODAY. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE POLITICIANS YOURSELF. AS A GUY THAT'S REPRESENTING A POLITICIAN. WE HAD A BAD WEEK, AS A PR GUY, KANYE HAD A BAD WEEK. HE SAID SOME STUFF ABOUT HITLER. HITLER IS BAD. HITLER IS NO GOOD. HITLER IS THE MOST DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING OF ALL TIME. THERE'S THIS THING CALLED OPERATION PAPER CLIP, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUT IN OPERATION PAPER CLIP IT WAS A SECRET UNED STATES INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM IN WHICH 1600 ENGINEERS AND TECHNICIANS WERE TAKEN FROM NAZI GERMANY. BETWEEN 1945 AND 1959 IT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE JOINT INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS AGENCY AND LARGELY CARRIED OUT BY THE SPECIAL AGENTS OF U.S. ARMY'S COUNTERINTELLIGENCE COHORT. MANY OF THIS PERSONNEL WERE FORMER MEMBERS AND SOME WERE FORMER MEMBERS OF THE NAZI PARTY CREATED OUR SPACE PROGRAM. HITLER IS A BAD NAZI. THE WST NAZI. THE OPERATION PAPER CLIP GUYS, THE ONES, THE 1600 NAZI GUYS WE BROUGHT OVER FROM GERMANY? AT THE TIME I GUESS THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED THAT BAD. THIS GUY THAT BROUGHT US TO THE MOON, HE WAS A ROCKET SCIENTIST. YOU CAN LOOK AT HIS TOMBSTONE [INDISCERNIBLE] BUT HE IS FAMOUS BECAUSE HE'S A ROCKET SCIENTIST MAYOR. AS A ROCKET SCIENTIST HE'S ROCKETS DECIMATED POLAND. HE KILLS THOUSANDS OF POLISH PEOPLE AND IN AMERICA, THROUGH THE SINGLE OPERATION PAPER CLIP, WE SAID COME WORK FOR US AND START OUR NASA PROGRAM, AND GUESS WHAT HE DID? HE GOT US TO THE MOON. MY POINT IS HITLER IS BAD AND AS A GUY REPRESENTING KANYE WEST, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HISTORY. WORLD WAR II, THE HOLOCAUST WAS THE WORST THING EVER BUT AFTER THE HOLOCAUST THERE'S THIS OPERATION PAPER CLIP. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT FOR THE YE 2024 CAMPAIGN. WANT TO LOVE EACH OTHER. WE DON'T WANT ANY HATE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND OUR INVOLVEMENT OF ACTUAL HIRING ACTUAL NAZIS TO COME WORK FOR US, IT KIND OF SEEMS WEIRD. I WOULD NOT HIRE A NAZI, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. THE LAST PERSON I WOULD HIRE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST OR RUN OUR NASA PROGRAM WOULD BE WARNER VAN BRON. BUT KANYE, YOU SAY ONE BAD THING AND YOU GET CANCELED. YOU GUYS ARE ALL HYPOCRITES BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID OF LETTING ME SPEAK. I WENT VIRAL. YOU'RE CREATING A WHOLE NEW MEING AT A DIFFERENT TIME BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE FILMED. >> Mayor Muns: TIME'S UP. >> WHEN YOU CUT A MAN'S TONGUE OUT, YOU DON'T STOP HIM FROM TALKING. [OFF MIC] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES LOCKRIDGE. >> ALL OF YOU ARE COWARDS! >> Mayor Muns: WELCOME, MR. LOCKRIDGE. [LAUGHTER] >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THAT. >> Mayor Muns: WELL, WE ISSUES THAT AFFECT PLANO. >> WELL, TONIGHT IS A DIFFERENT -- >> Mayor Mun OH, THEN YOU'RE NOT WELCOME. [LAUGHTER] >> SO TONIGHT IS DIFFERENT. JACK CARR, YOU HERE? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIM -- I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL BUT, MARK, THANK YOU AS WELL. THE MEETING WAS GREAT. WE HAVE AN ISSUE BUT I DO SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR THE MEETING. THANK YOU, JACK CARR FOR THE PHONE CALL YESTERDAY AND VISITING WITH ME ON AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AGAIN. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PICK ON FARMER MONTH, TO BE HONESTESTEST I HAVEAD CLOSE TO 50 OR MORE PHONE CALLS TODAY ON MY PHONE FROM PEOPLE IN PLANO, TEXAS THAT ARE CONCERNED AND AT THE SAME TIME UPSET ABOUT THE NUISANCE ACT, IMAGINE THAT, AND THE HIGH GRASS AND WEEDS ON PASTURES FOR FARMERS AND RANCHERS. IT'S A BIG TOPIC AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE'RE WORKING TOWARD IT. Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. MAYOR, AGAIN, I THANK MARK AND JACK FOR SLOWLY MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE TRYING. IT'S STARTING TO GET A LOT MORE HEAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY ARE REACHING OUT TO ME TO TRY TO COME TO A RESOLUTION FASTERFT THE HARASSMENT THAT I FEEL LIKE I'M STILL RECEIVING DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CHANGING TOO MUCH. I DID D CALL TO CODE COMPLIANCE WHERE I WAS IGNORED. I DID ASK FOR A PHONE CALL BACK. THEY DID IGNORE ME. THEN THEY SENT AN E-MAIL A FEW DAYS LATER, WHATEVER IT WAS, THREE OR FOUR DAYS LATER BY E-MAIL. THEY WON'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL. THEY WON'T TALK TO YOU. THEY IGNORE YOU. NOW, 90% OF YOUR CITIZENS TODAY WILL TELL YOU IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CODE COMPLIANCE, IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO RETURN THE PHONE CALLS. CODE COMPLIANCE PICKS ON SOMEBODY AND THEY STAY ON THAT ONE PERSON. IF THEY DON'T LIKE YOU THEY WON'T RETURN THE PHONE CALL. I'M GOING TO ASK AGAIN AND I THINK MARK AND JACK ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS, THAT CODE COMPLIANCE NEEDS TO STOP SHOWING HARASSMENT TOWARDS CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, NOT JUST MYSELF BUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. I THINK IT SHOULD BE FAIR ACROSS THE CITY. I THINK TWO CITY MEMBERS AGREE THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDSSED D I'M ASKING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL -- I'M IN EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL'S DISTRICTS AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO PICK UP THE PHONE. CALL ME. HEAR WHAT THE STATE HAS TO SAY. TALK TO THE STATE REPS. I'LL PUT YOU ON THE PHONE WITH WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT. I'LL PUT YOU ON THE PHONE WITH THE SENATOR, WITH THE CHAIRMAN. I HAVE ALL OF THEIR CELL PHONES. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS LET'S GET A RESOLUTION REAL QUICK AND LET'S SHOW ACROSS THE BOARD LEGIT ENFORCEMENT. THANK Y'ALL. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED ON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM B AS IN BRAVO. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM B THAT HAS BEEN PULLED. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION SO WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM 4, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, CITY MANAGER AUTHORITY RELATED TO PROCUREMENT DECISIONS NECESSARY FOR ISSUES THAT ARISE DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. CITY MANAGER MARK. >> Israelson: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS VERY QUICK. WE CTINU TOUN INTO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO MATERIALS INCLUDING VEHICLES. AND IT IS -- IT REMINDS ME A LOT OF WHAT WE WENT THROUGH DURING THE COVID YEARS OF BEING ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLYUICKLI ABLE TO GET OURSELVES IN LINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REPLENISHING VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS THAT ARE OTHERWISE BUDGETED OR PLANNED AS A NORMAL PART OF OUR OPERATIONS. WE'VE BROUGH SEVERAL OF THESE FORWARD FOR YOU. WE BROUGHT FORWARD SEVERAL PICKUP TRUCKS, WE BROUGHT FORWARD AMBULANCES AS WELL AS FIRE VEHICLES. I INQUIRED WITH STAFF TO SEE IF THIS IS AN ON GOING PREDICAMENT. THE ANSWER IS YES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS EXPRESS AUTHORITY FROM THE COUNCIL WITHIN THOSE BUDGET AND ROUTINE PURCHASES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND COMMIT THE CITY TO HAVING OUR PLACE IN LINE. THOSE WOULD STILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR RATIFICATION, BUT ISTHERSE AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE BUDGET IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER, I WOULD BRING BACK A RESOLUTION GIVING ME THE AUTHORITY TO COMMIT US TO THOSE PURCHASES SO THAT WE CAN AVOID SOME OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. >> Mayor Muns: IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> GOOD WITH ME. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. THE LAST ONE IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF THE RAINY DAY FUND RESTRICTIONS. I THINK COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS BROUGHT THAT UP. >> Israels: ONE QUICK ASPECT OF THIS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THE RAINY DAY FUND AND PUT FORTH THREE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE USE OF RAINY DAY FUNDS. AS YOU KNOW WE'VE JUST RECENTLY ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THAT FROM THE SALES TAX POLICY THAT WE HAD. WE ARE ALLOWED TO USE THOSE FOR UNFORESEEN BUDGETED DEFICITS, UNFORESEEN REVENUE SHORTFALLS OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> Williams: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MARK. I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE. I WOULD LIKE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL GUARDRAILS ON THE RAINY DAY FUND USAGE. SO I'D LIKE TO ADD DECLARE EMERGENCY DISASTERS TO THE LIST. WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE SNOWMAGEDDON THAT MERITS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE DUE TO UNFORESEEN AND UNFORESEEABLE CIRCUMSTANCES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD COURT JUDGMENTS. IF WE ARE HIT WITH A SIZABLE JUDGMENT THEN I THINK THE RAINY DAY FUND WOULD BE AN APPROPATE RESERVEROM WHICH TO DRAW THE FUNDS TO PAY IF AND WHEN ALL APPEALS ARE EXHAUSTED. AND FOR ANY -- IF WE'RE TO TAP THE RAINY DAY FUND FOR BUDGETARY SHORTFALLS THAT DON'T FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO ENABLE THE RELEASE OF THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS A BUDGET SHORTFALL. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SEEN AS EXTRA MONEY THAT WE HAVE LYING >> Mayor Muns: DEPUTYS. MAYOR. >> Tu: SO I THINK WITH REGARD TO -- LET ME START OVER. I THINK WHEN I FIRST WAS CAMPAIGNING FOR MY FIRST TERM I REMEMBER THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP IN THE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF RAINY DAY FUND FOR SOME SORT OF SUBSIDY THAT WAS NEEDED. AND THAT THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO CAME AND ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATED SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU GS USE THE RAINY DAY FUND? WHY IS IT NOT USED -- SINCE IT IS SITTING IN OUR -- IT'S SITTING THERE NOT BEING USED. WE'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO. AND I BELIEVE THE ANSWER WAS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH RESTRICTIONS ON THE RAINY DAY FUND THAT WE REALLY CAN'T ACCESS IT UNLESS IT'S FOR THESE SPECIFIC PURPOSES. SO ADDING MORE RESTRICTIONS TO THE RAINY DAY FUND DOESN'T SEEM TO SIT WELL WITH ME. I LIKE THE DISCRETIONARY WHERE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAPPED INTO THE RAINY DAY FUND THEN WE GET THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AS FOR SUPERMAJORITY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> Prince: I'M FINE WITH PUTTING A SUPERMAJORITY ON IT BUT I DON'T THINK IF WE HAVE ONE ON THERE THAT SAYS ANYTHING THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DISCR DISCRETION -- IF IT SAYS THE COUNCIL'S ANYTHING THAT'S UNDER THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LIST THIS. I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SUPERMAJORITY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF WHAT'S ON THERE. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: DID YOU SAY GRADY? >> Mayor Muns: NO, YOU. >> Ricciardelli: I THOUGHT YOU SAID GRADY.& I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT IN LINE. >> Mayor Muns: KIND OF ALIKE IN YOUR LAST NAME. >> Ricciardelli: NOT THAT SIMILAR. I NEED TO GET THE EARWAX CLEARED OUT, APPARENTLY. BUT IN ANY EVENT, I WAS GOING TO QUICKLY SAY THAT I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. I THINK FOR US TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL RAINY DAY FUND WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR. THE LAST CATCH ALL IS IF THERE'S SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S SIMILAR IN SCOPE AND MAGNITUDE TO THESE LISTED ITEMS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF WHEN WE WERE CALLING THOSE OUT THAT A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE COULD DO THAT. I DO THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PRECOMMITMENT, THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE USING THE RAINY DAY FUND FOR. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WOULD USE THE RAINY DAY FUND FOR AND SAVING UP TAXPAYER MONEY OVER TIME ANDOMEBY ELSE IN THE FUTURE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA AND IT COULD TURN INTO ADDITIONAL SPENDING INSTEAD OF SOMETHING INTENDED FOR EMERGENCIES AND UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE. I THINK ADDITIONAL GUARDRAILS ARE A GOOD IDEA. >> Williams: TO CLARIFY TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR PRO TEM, THE SUPERMAJORITY I MEANT FOR THINGS SUCH AS BUDGETARY SHORTFALLS, THINGS LIKE A DECLARED DISASTER OR A COURT JUDGMENT, I ENVISIONED BEING ABLE TO APPROVE WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY. I'M LIKENING IT TO THE STRATEGIC PETROLEUM RESERVE WHEN THERE'S AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY AND YOU NEED THE PETROLEUM, THERE SHOULD STILL BE PETROLEUM IN THERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDS IN THERE TO ADDRESS THINGS OTHER THAN SUBSIDIES, ET CETERA, WHEN WE HAVE A REAL NEED. >> Israelson: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES ON THE SUPERMAJORITY, PAIGE AND I ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION TO SEE WHETHER THAT COULD BE A REQUIREMENT THROUGH OUR CHARTER AND STATUTE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS BE THAT SPECIAL ASPECT OF A LARGER VOTE THAN A SIMPLE MAJORITY. SO WE MAY HAVE TO BRING THAT CK TO YOU BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO RESEARCH ON THAT. >> WE HIRED OUR CITY MANAGER BECAUSE WE BELIEVED IN HIS LEADERSHIP. I THINK HE'S PROVEN THAT TO ALL OF US. I DON'T REALLY THINK WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE SPEND IT ON OR RESTRICT IT FOR. IT'S BEEN WORKING OKAY AND I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER IS SMART ENOUGH THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THATEALMORING IT TO US AND WE'LL APPROVE IT. IF IT'S VIABLE, WE'LL PROVE IT. I TRIED TO REMEMBER NOW WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT LOADING IT UP TOO MUCH. MAYBE MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT, I GUESS IS WHAT THEY SAY. I THINK IT'S BEEN WORKING PRETTY WELL. LET'S ADD THAT AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. >> Mayor Muns: WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK THEY'LL FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS, YOU KNOW, CREDENCE TO THE CHARTER. WE'LL DEFINITELY BE BRINGING IT BACK. >> Williams: THAT TOUCHED ON ANOTHER THING I HAD. I WANT TO CLARIFY I DON'T BELIEVE THE RAINY DAY FUND IS CURRENTLY AT THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION. >> Israelson: NO, IT'S NOT. >> Williams: BUT I DID -- [ LAUGHTER ] >> [OFF MIC] >> Williams: APPROPRIATION OF THE FUNDS AND THE RAINY DAY FUND STILL REQUIRE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL BUT GIVEN ITS NATURE WE CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE EXPENDITURES FROM IT UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT REQUIRING RATIFICATION. AND MAYBE ABOVE THE NORMAL AMOUNT THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER WITH. >> I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. [LAUGHTER] >> Mayor Muns: I THINK WE CAN PUT IT TO A VOTE BUT I REALLY THINK WE'RE COMPLICATING IT. >> Tu: I HAVE A QUESTION. SO CURRENTLY THE RAINY DAY FUND HAS ALREADY THREE RESTRICTIONS ON IT, IS THAT RIGHT? >> Israelson: THAT'S CORRECT. >> Tu: THE VERY LAST ONE BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND LET THEM DECIDE. >>sraelson:NY OTHER PURPOSE DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY CITY COUNCIL. >> Tu: THAT'S THE LAST ONE. WHAT'S THE FIRST TWO? BUDGET? >> Israelson: UNFORESEEN BUDGET DEFICITS AND UNFORESEEN BUDGET SHORTFALLS. >> Tu: THAT'S COVERED, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS . I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO STAY AS CONSISTENT AS IT IS BEFORE EXCEPT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RESEARCH WITH REGARD TO SUPERMAJORITY, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF -- JUST IN CASE IN THE FUTUREOMEBODY DECIDES THAT IT MAY BE A GRANDIOSE IDEA TO USE THE MONEY FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> Tu: THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. >> Israelson: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO DO HOMEWORK ON THE SUPERMAJORITY SIDE OF THINGS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF THE HEAD NODS ABOUT THAT. I'M TAKING IT THAT THE ANY OTHER PURPOSE DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY COUNCIL IS GOING TO COVER ENOUGH GROUND TO COVER THE ELEMENTS. I'M DOUBLE CHECKING. THIS IS NOT ME MAKING A STATEMENT. THIS IS ME SEEKING CONSENSUS. >> Williams: IT STRIKES ME THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY A RESTRICTION. ANYTHING COUNCIL AGREES ON. >> Israelson: THAT'S CORRECT. ANYTHING COUNCIL AGREES ON BUT IT STILL REQUIRES COUNCIL VOTE AND DIRECTION. >> WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK COULD YOU BRING BACK A DEFINITION OR AN EXAMPLE OF A BUDGET -- UNFORESEEN BUDGET DEFICIT? >> Israelson: I ABSOLUTELY CAN. >> Mayor Muns: THAT BEING SAID, WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE ARE ADJOURNED. [MEETING ADJOURNED]